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>>530618364 Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own risk.
-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-4
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/
-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
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why is susie always a bloated pig or 7ft tall muscle ogre in art? shes like 5'8 at most and wears baggy clothes
We were so close... to freedom...
>>530657019artist projection and/or fetishization
post Addisons or Shadowguys
why are frisk and chara so fucking fat
La creatura. She is to be feared. Cower before her might.
Seems like the activity bump is finally over
>>530657076feels like both are too much. somewhere in the middle for me
>>530657120I bet she smells like gingerbread
>>530657076right side. left is too flat, flatter than even canon Noelle.
>>530657120I bet if I put socks on this thing it would waddle confusedly
>>530657019Thin Susan My Beloved
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baaaaaa
>>530657039ERAM's mouth is #f26522
Papyrus's badge(?) is #ff6411
>>530657019Primarily because it's hot. Even one of the concept artists draws her like that.
just finished chapter 4. toriel gives me pic related vibes
>>530657039MS Paint palette
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I had the strangest dream today.
First of all, I'm not a Tennafag. Hell, I haven't thought about him at all in weeks, but for some reason today I had a vaguely sensual dream about him.
I was like inside some game, but not necessarily Deltarune. I was gonna go into a shop to buy some items or whatever, and the "shop" was just a bag full of random items, including a large toy figure of Tenna.
When I got closer, the toy figure suddenly grew, turned real, grabbed my hand, and pulled me close, until I found myself in the shop I was looking for. It was like the bag had turned into a real shop, like a little dimension inside the bag that Tenna pulled me into.
It was weird, but I was like "Well whatever I found the shop, let's get some items." and tried to let go of Tenna's hand, who was a few inches taller than me, and still holding my hand.
When I tried to let go, he hurriedly grabbed my hand with both his hands this time, and his face got really close to mine. He didn't talk, or maybe I just couldn't understand him. I only remember being really flushed when that happened and enjoying the sensation, Feeling his big hands holding mine was nice.
But then I figured it's time to move on, he slowly relaxes one of his hands, but still firmly holds my hand with the other one. I figured there was a reason for it, possibly because if he let go, maybe I'd be transported back outside the bag.
There's not too many details to the dream afterwards, except some feelings I remember. There were times, while I was looking around, and Tenna was also looking at somewhere else, I couldn't help but notice his ass. I dunno why, I was really fucking enamored with his ass lol
which to be fair makes sense, I'm very much an ass person.
Also he had a very nice waist too, his waist was really thin, which made his ass stand out more.
Unfortunately that's it, I know it's not super exciting, but it was really weird for me to have a dream about fucking Tenna of all people lol
Again, I'm not a Tennafag
>>530657194Have we seen her official side profile?
>>530657130I think some guys might've just been banned, there were way fewer huge freakouts than usual last night
>>530657076in between but closer to 2 I'd say. 1 is far too Round
>>530657084I can post anything!
>>530657130new bread fixes all
>>530657120noellekino
>>530657228holy kino, rare berdly x Susie art
>>5306570192018 Susie art did this and kept giving her a massive tail
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Whiteboard: https://r8.whiteboardfox.com/86219001-6245-7428
Magma: https://magma.com/d/zwvExP8tCq
https://www.ourworldoftext.com/utg
>>530657076Even further beyond
>>530657349there is a snout now but I saw someone post a screenshot from a video of an earlier version and it was flat(have not confirmed myself)
>>530657321TV Time spares no one
>>530657321>not a tennafag>most tennafag dream shit you've ever readanon God himself has a plan for you
>>530657362rare threads with very little gender debate
>>530657398every time I check the worldoftext there's more schizophrenia
>>530657338peak. I appreciate it.
>>530657396Massive tail is Susie's wish. Wishes can come true via art
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HE'S GONE
i really don't think i can take a year of tenna and spamton faggotry
Kris has oppositional defiant disorder. The pronoun thing is a symptom of it
>>530657597>implying that it'll stop once chapter 5 releasesit'll actually be BOLSTERED by the introduction of Asgore's TV
>>530657076to go even further beyond
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>>530657373Not That Rare, Buddy
This Guy Basically OWNS The Berdly/Susie
>>530657683nah this too pointy. you've gotta have Mass to the snoot or it's not aerodynamic enough
>>530657597We'll just post until you like it.
>>530657680it'll stop because it will be replaced by rudy x asgore faggotry
Fat noelle or thin noelle?
Face it tiger, you just hit the jackpot
>>530657672it appears i may have been the victim of a bamboozling
>>530657841I may be a coward but the snoot will be boopable. if you kiss that snoot your brain's getting pulled out like you're egyptian
>>530657679Gaster Yaga...
>>530657683>Click Susies idea>she chucks noelle like a dart
>>530657230Baaaa to you too, fren!
>>530657892what is 4/20? Independence Day?
>>530657892What Are His Chances With
Macy, Amora Or Harrison?
What if the light and dark worlds get permanently merged together in the end?
>>530658156Story Of Undertale
>>530658156thatd fucking suck now noelle cant watch avgn on her phone its trying to be her friend
What are the chances that getting the eggs during weird route would even do anything considering you can't get the chapter 2 egg? Nothing Is stopping the player from getting them In chapter 3 and 4.
>>530658235>implying Kris would hold hands with Noelle during his Demon Child phase
>>530658235what eggs? you can get eggs?
>>530658235The fact you can still even go into egg rooms post-Snowgrave in chapters 3 and 4 makes me think there's something egg-related for that route, even if you can't get the all eggs collected bonus
Fuck, the LostUndertale YouTube account got nuked. It was the one that had a "leaked beta" of chapter 4 holiday house where Kris keeps running into walls and breaking stuff. Anyone have a re-upload or downloaded it? They also had a Noelle rape video that Id like to see.
>>530658396That's eggs, Anon. "Egg-related thing" is eggs.
>>530658234Her phone would become AVGN
>>530658235Can't you just get the egg first then start the weird route?
>>530658364hes smiling cuz he picked his nose before holding it
>>530658469What I mean is that it might change a future egg room or maybe the Eggs Man will do or say something different if he gets to show up again
>>530658465https://youtube.com/watch?v=LmZWqqMIeMg
>>530658424he died for our sans
>>530658487I want to see AVGN rip Dragon Blazers 2 a new one.
im gonna slurp up noelles eggs like boba
>>530658537Why not? Does it leave your inventory or something?
>>530658626i thought he did not review good games
>>530658497No, you have to start the weird route before you reach that area
>>530658002>But Mr. Gaster, I don't know how to sit on a shovel
>>530658607Big mcthankies
Why does the Forgotten Man not let Kris enter his magical realm while committing Snowgrave, but does let them in after the fact? Did he forget?
>>530658776It's because the egg room in chapter 2 is tied to the goofy annoying dog cutscene which would be out of place in Snowgrave
>>530658364True sadly
>>530658370The secret room egg that you can get In each chapter and then place somewhere the game wants you to In the light world before the chapter ends
>>530658396I want to believe the same too. As a side note I can't help but think snowgrave will branch In chapter 5 considering there is nothing stopping you from getting the good dark world endings in chapter 3 and 4.
>>530658682No, I checked. Definitely a boy. Though he moaned like a girl.
In chapter7 during Snowgrave, you will take an egg out of Berdly's frozen cloaca to "replace" the one you missed on chapter 2
Why were we able to control Kris's dialog in weird route when the soul was out of body?
Tobert removed the second Kris...
>>530658671>"Anyways, Dragon Blazers 2: it sucked ass back then and it sucks ass now!"
>>530658776is it really called his magical realm
>>530658664You quite literally can't get to the room while locked In to weird/snowgrave progress. The only way you could is to abort the route before Berdly and have you keep the thorn ring
>>530658976When the dialogue menu appears the SOUL moves into place to act as the cursor no matter where it is, that's why Kris didn't want Noelle to say anything
What do you guys think of nubert
>>530658671Why the fuck did he review Earthbound and Majora's Mask then?
>>530659198That's my nigga bruh
>>530658976Same reason the dialogue option box appears when you're watching Susie even though you're clearly not inside her
>>530657112Too much chocolate. And power.
Dragon Blazers is a religious game franchise
It's the Deltarune version of Noah's Ark 3D
>>530659198He insists upon himself.
>>530659148>perfect route is locked behind aborted snowgrave AND the eggtobykino
>>530659198My man!
>>530659320This anon failed to recruit everyone and is coping with his sad, sad Nubertless Castle Town
>>530658983He killed that Kris
If you walked into a room that contained a microwave and a miniature Ralsei inside it. And mini Ralsei has his head pressed against the glass looking at you asking for help. But then the microwave turns on and he starts banging on the glass and yelling in fear.
Would you turn off the microwave and free the Ralsei. Or would you watch
>>530659183>THE TEXTBOXES ARE DIEGETIC>THE MUSIC'S DIEGETIC>THE BATTLE BOX IS DIEGETIC>I'M DIEGETIC>ARE THERE ANY OTHER DIEGETIC ELEMENTS I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT?
>>530659407I recruited everyone, even in snowgrave. What's your excuse?
whens this fat fucking piece of shit king gonna stop his "fuck lightners" grifting
I Think Queen Is The Funniest Toby Fox Character
>>530659430*CONNECTION TERMINATED*
>>530659486>even in snowgrave.Confirmed Nubertless
>>530659468People learned the word diegetic at the start of chapter 3 and literally have not shut the fuck up since
>>530659183Oh, that explains the scene later with Susie . Her asking something brought up a box, but Kris figured out how to not say anything at all.
>>530659430Take out minisei and put him in a jar
>>530659407I went on a murdering spree in ch3, but Nubert was still there in ch4. What does that mean?
>>530659559I've got 3 saves. Snowgrave (all recruits), pacifist (all recruits), and Snowgrave (all recruits, hacked). You're just mad I have nubert even on snowgrave
>>530659468Only some of the music is diegetic
>Oh, that's Mr. Rouxls's theme!>More like theme of him getting his ass kicked.vs
>Feel like I heard that one...>...?>Yeah, that's right. Ralsei was humming it earlier.
>>530659148That doesn't really answer why it isn't possible to get to the egg room first, and then after that start the snowgrave run.
Chara calls Frisk their partner because they're dating, and since Frisk uses they/them pronouns, Chara isnโt specifying whether Frisk is their boyfriend or girlfriend.
>>530659490I don't think he even hates the Lightners anymore, he has multiple conversations with the Fun Gang
He's just sulking and exiling himself from embarrassment because he's secretly kind of Kris-like
>>530658424The prophecy...
>>530659468Main menu is diegetic. It even talks to you in green text in Chapter 1.
>>530657597We KNOW, krisrapeshartochomo
>>530659735>Not An Aborted-Snowgrave For The Twisted Sword>Trash
>>530659620I've been using diegetic since the Undertale days, kiddo
I'm old!
>>530659767Because if you go through the mouse puzzle rooms normally instead of proceeding then you're locked out of Snowgrave and the egg room is after the mouse puzzle rooms
>>530659860Spamton and Tenna raped Kris
>>530659793>Kris exiles himself to sulk while I have a fun with the gang in a Vesselbest ending
Reminder that (Chara) is evil and the in-game dialogue confirms it
>>530659735>hacked to get NubertAlright, I can respect that
>>530659836I meant self-conscious and too proud for his own good but also that
>>530659912Okay I didn't remember that. For some reason I thought the traffic section was just a little after the that electric barrier and the mouse puzzle was nearer the end when you get the gang together again
Why doesn't Kris just abandon the whole evil plan and kill us
>>530659892The twisted sword isn't gonna do shit and we all know it. And if it does, well it doesn't matter to me because I'll be busy with my holy mantle
>>530660064The evil plan ends in Kris's death which will also kill us so everything works out in the end (this is 100% cope on Kris's part for they are an idiot)
>>530660064Kris is going to die as part of the evil plan so they don't really care that much
>>530660064Guilt for causing Dess' disappearance and maybe fear of Carol's wrath
Wait, how do I edit saves? I looked it up, everyone recommends uploading your saves to some site, which is absurd. Are there any local save editors?
>>530659356>perfect routeAs much as I agree aborted snowgrave will have It's own route due to having the thorn ring I wouldn't consider It the perfect route since you are locked out of getting a good dark world ending in chapter 2
>>530659767Unless you go back the way you came with Noelle the second you get her snowgrave can't start as such you are completely locked out of it.
>>530659892You can get a Thorn Ring in chapter 5 so aborted Snowgrave is pointless
>>530657683>pointy noellei'm getting a strange aura about this post. like we've walked this path before...
>>530660205Your save files are literally just ~5000 lines of numbers, if you're not willing to use the spamton save editor then tough shit
>>530660064Kris is a kid and was told that if you break a promise it's bad and don't forget Kris promised
>>530660205>which is absurd>Idiot
if the prevailing theory is that the dark world in chpater 3 was inspired by kris because they made it, wouldn't that logically mean the first 2 dark worlds were inspired by the knight/whoever made them in some way
>>530660205>>530660367The guy who made that save was editor has his information for it on a google doc somewhere and you can reference that to do manual edits, but I don't have the link. Me personally, I used UndertaleModTool and found all of the data I needed myself by going through the code. I'm able to do that since I'm a programmer lol
>Kriselle
>Krusie
You wanna y'hear who the real partner for Kris is?
>>530660205you can edit it yourself if you know the numbers
true super fans know what every line is for, no we wont code your local save editor
>>530660543Asriel II? That's incest
>>530660448I wouldn't mind it if it was possible to launch a local instance on localhost:8080 , but it's not.
>>530660543NONONONO DO NOT MAKE ME ATTRACTED TO ONION
>>530660528Yes
Furthermore the chapter 1 and chapter 2 Dark Worlds were clearly inspired by the same make believe that Kris and "the girl" played which also influenced the chapter 3 Dark World
>>530660205why is it absurd, unless youre downloading mystery .dlls its literally whatever
>>530660342>>530660498The Thorn Ring is just a thorn in the real world and the next chapter is flower-themed. The weird route is based on sequence-breaking so getting an endgame item early makes sense. Plus aborted Snowgrave in chapter 2 is blatantly half-assed in terms of story which wouldn't make sense if it was the intended route. Face it, chapter 5 Thorn Ring is inevitable.
>>530658892>then place somewhere the game wants you to In the light world before the chapter endsPretty sure that isn't possible in 3/4
>>530660723If you abort Weird Route at Berdly you can teach Noelle Snowgrave permanently though
>>530660528That's why Ralsei gets ignored by King and Queen while Tenna acknowledges him frequently. Chapter 1 and 2 dark worlds were made by someone who doesn't know Ralsei.
>>530659545She is indeed very funny style
>>530657112determination is stored in the gut
>>530660907I want to fuck it
>>530660797In what way does that refute what I said?
>>530660723I believe this, thoughever I think that you won't actually be able to equip the ThornRing onto Noelle if you get it in chapter 5. She doesn't have the brainwashing of the weird route to be willing to equip it. So it's purely used for the TwistedSword craft.
>>530660662The site have been down several times, no one could edit the files during that time. Why is it needed to be online? It's not like Nvidia H200 is required to compute it.
>>530659545I Agree She Is Also Very Smart
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Finally a good thread
>>530661006It's just one of those annoying convenient-but-actually-very-inconvenient things of the modern era
>>530661006What the fuck is someone going to do with your Deltarune save file? The only thing you could get from a save file is someone's full name if they're retarded enough to put it in the goner maker.
>>530660750Yeah, chapter 3 and likely 4 It just ends up on Berdly's desk with Temmie's
Our former dark world gang!
>>530661006are you worried someone's gonna leak your IP or something just because you put your first name as the Vessel and/or it's creator
>>530661006that's a valid complaint
that said i would probably not want to download a mystery .exe, i'd like to think most people wouldnt but zoomers have 0 computer literacy so who knows.
most people dont know how to compile code themselves
fuck i missed out on all the ramb kino these past few threads. have a really late contribution
https://youtu.be/Rv6KXb5KXFc?si=N4TJtyiSiHijFnIf
Gerson wears the same chest plate and skintight fabric outfit Kris does
>>530659987And that's why people love her
>>530661523Came across this recently myself and dug it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOToh4DwJhY
>>530613084I tell fave to go to one of those office supply liquidation stores. You can find expensive, barely used office chairs for cheap. I like to imagine my chair was used by some business owner who went bankrupt his first quarter, because it was practically new when I got it
>>530613009This but Pepper from Summer Camp Island who looks just like that panda but with shorter hair
>>530661523Cool
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Would you fuck your vessel?
>>530661974i'd cum all over his cute little bald head
https://youtu.be/buuaCy4SSpk?si=Uc6X_htpIdlBJ-K-&t=145
What are some ytps that remind you of deltarune (spongebob-ralsei,patrick-kris,sandy-susie)
>>530661974My vessel will fuck Kris. Roughly. Without consent.
Is it so wrong to want to be swallowed whole and slowly digested by giant Ralsei?
Noelle? More like, mother of my children
>>530661974My vessel will fuck Ralsei. Gently. With consent.
https://x.com/soggy_gnome/status/1942762609670824343
https://files.catbox.moe/xyhem0.mp4
gay gay homo gay homosexual gay gay
>>530662250yes you niggerfaggot
Why does Kris want to create dark fountains?
Why are we his soul? Why do we randomly start controlling him at the start of chapter 1? Presumably Kris just lived his life like a normal person up until we boot up the game, right? How come he's aware of us, and can take control over sometimes, but not other times?
Why did deer mom wait until current time to start opening dark fountains?
Where does the vessel fit into all of this?
Do all monsters and people also have heart shaped souls like we saw in Undertale? Or are souls not a thing in this world, and we as the player special for that reason?
What the fuck is happening? Is this story gonna make sense by the end of chapter 7?
Bold of people to think the twisted sword would be equipped to Kris considering the girl In the prophecy uses a sword
I just wanted to draw unhinged Knoelle
>>530661974am i possessing it while fucking it? wouldn't that just be masturbation?
>>530662485I want you to draw unhinged Knobelle too
>>530662465It is normal for a story to have unanswered questions by the halfway point
>>530661414It could instead be a fully static webpage so everything happens in your browser and you can dump it on a 99.9% uptime static webhost and anyone can host their own copy. Right now all the juicy bits are on a mystery web server
>>530660951>>530661087It is perfectly normal to be horny for Maddie.
Does anyone have that image edit of pic related with spamton and tenna?
>>530662478Only Kris can equip it, Noelle will have to make do with the Black Shard.
>>530660224>Unless you go back the way you came with Noelle the second you get herNot true. You have to go back, but as long as you don't reach a point of no return, you can go back whenever you want to kill those other enemies.
>>530662485that is a very nice unhinged noelle
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>>530658048bรครครค my fren
OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH YEAH BABY SWING IT SWING IT PAPI PAPI COO TENNY TOO TV TV TENNY WENNY WOO WOO SWINGAREELIDOO WINNY WOO JENNY RENNY JOO TENNY SHENNY WENNY PENNY FENNY FOO FOO ROO ROO REE ROO ROO! OH YEAHHHHH SWING IT BABY SWING ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
>>530662558>GM: Dammit, Undyne. You're supposed to SLAY the dragon! >Undyne: But if I make the dragon my wife, she's no longer a threat. What's the big deal?
I LOVE TENNA!!! I LOVE TV!!
>>530662052I can't think of any. But that YTP is kino as fuck
>>530662915shut the FUCK up numbers
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>>530662250Yes but don't let that stop you
>>530662485Why was this deleted?
>>530662728When that Is technically true Toby made It Impossible to get to the egg room while doing snowgrave. It doesn't trigger that's all there Is to It anon. If you go and do the puzzle before freezing everything you abort the route. By the point you get to the location where the egg room would normally spawn Spamton is in the dumpster there telling you how many enemies are left to kill. You. Can't. Get. The. Egg.
>>530662607That's what they said about every famous story that included a million different plot points during it's run and completely fumbled it all by the end.
Don't Forget, new Panty and Stocking
>>530663305Please stop, I don't need another one
The reason you can't get the egg in chapter 2 if you get on Snowgrave route is because the Egg Man quite likes that Berdly fellow
>>530663476dude has dementia I'm sure he'll get over it
>>530663476If this Is true how come you can get the egg in chapter 3 and 4 In weird route? Are the eggs being placed on his desk to revive him as true hero Berdly?
>>530663697OOOOOOOH YESSSSS
>>530663697THIS IS A BLUE BOARD ANON!!!
>>530659545Official Funny ranking:
Queen > Berdly > Papyrus > Sans > Spamton > Mettaton > Burgerpants/Pizzapants > Milk Looker > Susie > Lancer > Tenna > Rouxls Kaard > Asgore > That one Pippins that said no one will shed a tear for Ramb > Toriel > Noelle > Flowey/Asriel > Jockington > Ralsei > Catty/Bratty > Alphys > Sweet/Cap'n/KK > Undyne
>>530662465>Why does Kris want to create dark fountainsas of the end of chapter 4, i'm not sure kris even particularly wants to keep doing it. kris does not seem to be very enthusiastic about the conspiracy.
>why are we kris' soulyou are YOUR SOUL, as stated by asster.
>why do we randomly start controlling kris at the start of chapter 1because that's the point that we were thrown into kris.
>presumably kris just lived life normallyaccording to what interpretation of when kris lost a soul, yes. i've heard arguments that it happened around/during the dessappearance, and that it happened recently. if the former, (You) cannot be the first soul to be used.
>why is kris awarewhy would kris be unaware? deltarune is a diagetic story.
>why can kris take control sometimes but not otherskris seems to always have some level of control. you say where to go and what to interact with, but kris decides how to interact and how to say things, and can manipulate the flow of information in this way. as for tearing you out, it appears to be a very exhausting and painful experience that leaves kris completely drained. it is impractical to do so when it is unnecessary, and may actively be harming the human. there have been arguments made that you have more control in dark worlds than in light worlds as well, but i feel chapter 3 and 4 countermand that.
>why open fountains now?not enough info to say anything definitive. perhaps not all the pieces were in place yet.
>where does the vessel fit into thisyou were going to use it to play the game, until SURVEY_PROGRAM was interrupted and you were redirected to kris. current status unknown
>souls?yes, they exist; there's a book on souls in the librarby. we have yet to see another soul.
>what the fuck is happening?not enough information to say anything definitive, other than that it will be similar in plot to another indie game that came out in the late teens.
>>530663413Anon that reply wasn't about the egg, it was just ruling out misinformation. Remember when people thought your choice when Noelle was thinking about zapping you with the electric forcefield was integral to the snowgrave run?
>>530662728Every puzzle must be frozen by Noelle followed by using snowgrave on berdly In his boss fight...the egg room Is after Berdly.
>>530661974Why would I fuck myself
>>530664043you're fucking yourself with your current life choices already
>>530663816>PapyrusWho? I don't recall meeting such a character In Deltarune
>>530663985the only part of that post that was bait was the throwaway line about the pippins
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>>530664131I only fuck over my faggot ass future self.
>>530664156He's a fan-made character, people thought it would be funny if sans had an autistic younger brother who was obsessed with bamboozling people with shitty puzzles and thought he was more competent than he actually is.
the chapter 2 egg is the baby we put in Noelle
>>530664425Sounds worse than Prunsel.
Reminder that Dess loves Asriel with all her heart still, even after his dad hit her with his truck.
The eggs represent the amount of characters who will turn trans at the end of the game
>>530662465Kris had the cage before we start the game, so no, the player is not diegetic and Kris has been a puppet for far longer.
>>530664663The cage existing does not mean that Kris has been a puppet before or that the Player is not diegetic
>>530664663Who's to say that kris didn't keep pets at some point? Maybe he had a little rat that he would keep there
>>530664624If you're wondering it's Berdly, Rouxls, Jockington, Asriel and Monster Kid.
>>530664732I want to hide under his skirt :3
>>530664425So it's just skeleton Rouxls Kaard?
>>530664732It is a testament to Asriel Dreemurr that he has a giant laser cannon and I still don't think that he's cool
>>530664954It's like if you could ship Rouxls Kaard with sans, yes
>>530663816If; dogShitTake
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>>530664968A testament to your poor taste
>>530664425That sounds great! A shame he Isn't a real character. Granted I can't Imagine that Sans guy having a brother that wasn't a total piece of shit like he Is.
Post your top 3 faves NOW
they have a very very very healthy sex life
>>530657076I prefer a middle ground, slight snout but not crazy
Ralsei making all the Darkners in your town fat from his cooking...
you are now reminded of spamsquito
>>530657832Fat, but then this is just rounder face Noelle, which I also prefer.
>>530665376I want Kris to forcefully build ralsei a harem with the most voluptuous darkner women to milk him
>>530663816>catty and bratty>underneath that one pippins that said no one will shed a teat for rambthis ranking is a personal affront to my soul
>>530663878>kris does not seem to be very enthusiastic about the conspiracyIt's hard to tell desu, he seemed very enthusiastic about stopping us from getting the password to the bunker.
>you are YOUR SOUL, as stated by asster.So Kris doesn't have a soul then?
>because that's the point that we were thrown into kris.I guess what I'm curious about is who threw us in, how much do characters know about it you know?
The implication is that it's gaster's doing, but does anyone in the story know about that? Presumably Kris knows, maybe?
>if the former, (You) cannot be the first soul to be used.My personal theory is that Kris was dead at some point, and souls are used to keep him alive maybe. It'd also fit into Kris being the deltarune version of chara.
The only thing that I'm not convinced about is the fact that Kris is obviously a name closer to Frisk, but Chara is also not necessarily the actual canon name to the fallen human in Undertale, so I guess it works either way.
>deltarune is a diagetic story.That's a copout. Being aware is obviously something unique to Kris, we don't have many other examples (other than possibly the characters who are in on the conspiracy like deer mom) of character specifically acknowledging the soul.
>as for tearing you out, it appears to be a very exhausting and painful experienceI'm telling you man, Kris is dead and is only able to stay alive with a soul inside him. At least that's my theory.
>not enough info to say anything definitiveFair, I'm just curious is all. I hope we get an explanation for it.
>yes, they exist; there's a book on souls in the librarbyOh yeah that's true, I forgot about that. Thanks for reminding me.
>>530663878>kris does not seem to be very enthusiastic about the conspiracyKris is not enthusiastic about anything.
>>530665281Susie
Kris
Ralsei
Papyrus
Undyne
Flowey
>>530665376>Ralsei making the women fat for meSuddenly I like him far more.
>>530665468miss mizzle, queen, about 10 common mizzles and a small platoon of viros all taking turns on who's cleaning the drool off ralsei's maw while the three heads of clover give him the suck shlup fuck duck daloop
>>530664618>end of deltarune>dess is back>asriel hanging out with her>she keeps teasing azzy about how his dad hit her with his truck>azzy is getting progressively more confused and annoyed every single time because "dess that never happened. where the hell is this even coming from, dad didn't even own that truck until like four years ago"
>>530664968He IS a little kid trying to be cool, of course he's not.
Show me ONE 6 year-old that's cool.
>>530665376>>530665808so THAT'S why ralsei gets that evil and sinister look on his face whenever susie starts eating his food...
>>530665815Incredible how you can tell from just a single drawing that this artist only draws sfw artwork
>>530665802Me when I was 6. I pretended to be a velociraptor, that shits rad.
>>530665742How do you think he will react the first time you tell about your "plans" for him?
>>530665771>heehee, why don't you ever hit me with YOUR truck azzy?>dess i don't even have a truck, i got back here by bus>do you think we can convince my mom to buy you one?>why do you want to get hit by a truck so much?>not just any truck, it has to be yours!>well,now i see who noelle takes from
>>530665920Its why he's upset that his food doesnt keep lightners full when they return to the light world. Ralsi wants Kris and Susie to be thicc.
>>530665376i hate hatless ralsei portraits so much bros
>>530665971tasque has that covered
roulx will genderbend and also join, giving ralsei an oddly arousing blowjob, for some reason she forces elnina and lanino to watch from a chair
>>530666097>dess just keeps making fandom in-jokes>nobody gets them because they're characters not fans>this makes it funnier to her
>>530665281DESS
KRIS
KNIGHT
>>530666257Why would Rouxls even do rhat... I thought he's not a slut?
Who would win in a fight Mr. (Ant) Tenna Deltarunechapter3 or Dogma Tboirepentance
>>530666342wish i had that god awful image of morbidly obese ralsei doing the take care action right about now
>>530665281berdly
tenna
spamton
>>530666438roulxs needs to be lackey supreme, and the current head of state of all the darkners by default is ralsei, so by process of elimination sucking ralsei dry is how you get yourself the place of best second in command period
>>530666257>Residents of (you)town cheering and hyping Ralsei up as he cums inside one of the three clover's heads!
>>530665952Platypus-looking
>>530665547>we don't have many other examples (other than possibly the characters who are in on the conspiracy like deer mom) of character specifically acknowledging the soul.Ralsei's whole thing is acknowledging the soul
Spamton acknowledges it multiple times
Gerson possibly acknowledges it but it's a bit ambiguous
Susie notices it but doesn't fully realize what it is because she lacks info. Noelle also notices Kris acting differently because of the soul, as do some other townies.
>>530665281i don't manage to have faves because there's too much to choose, but i guess...
>ralsei>asgore>gaster>alphys>flowey>friskSubject to change as the chapters release
>>530666162Finally I have a reason to post this image
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>>530667010* Noelle will get fatter
* Profeed
>>530665496I just don't find the valley girl schtick especially funny man, sorry
>>530667147Is
Valley_girl=bimbo;
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there's a chair with a cake on it, and a chair with a dick on it, in which one is fave sitting and which one is fave eating?
>>530665281Ralsei, Susie, Kris
Flowey, Papyrus, Sans
>>530667147i was referring to some of their lines in undertale, like when bratty is trying to deflect and catty just straight up tells you they found it in the trash
or the "I found a gun in the dumpster!"
or they key they sell being tagged with "Probably to someone's house LOL"
>>530665281Alphys, Papyrus, Undyne
Kris, Susie, Ralsei
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>>530665281ralsei
jevil
seam
>>530667250>FUCK OFF MOM I'M TRYING TO GET LAID OVER HERE>WE ALREADY SET YOU UP FOR THE HOLIDAY GIRL IN EXCHANGE OF A SILVERADO>OHOHOHO YEAH BIG SHIT I'LL MAKE YOU SEE
>>530665281Noelle
Susie
Queen
>>530665635>Susie>Kris>Ralsei>>530667352>Ralsei, Susie, Kris>>530667458>Kris, Susie, RalseiANGEL'S HEAVEN...
>>530657791This is super hot
>>530667791We love our RPG party don't we folks?
>>530668045fuck you, I want to try out Berdy, Catti and Jockington out
>>530668045I genuinely do not understand people who like kris
>>530668143They're just a little fucked up and a little evil, like a rescue dog
>>530667791this does make me wonder if there's any character that likes all the three heroes equally ( other than (you) and gaster is interested mostly in (you) and his deltarune)
most just focus on either kris, susie, or kris and susie, but ralsei is mostly left as a sidepiece that they don't aknowledge or gets treated different for whatever reason
>>530665281Dess
Gaster
Vess
>>530668143i just want a cute tsundere they/themfriend, simple as that
>>530667250>ralsei out of nowhere
>>530668143>he doesn't like Kris
>>530668296The ost when you're making your vessel is "another HIM"
Kris is male
>>530665281woody
pruncel
kanako
>>530665281Pluey
Battat
Jongler
>>530668143Emo shotas are my type
>>530668143Interesting inner conflict, intriguing ties to the story, and also just funny
>>530668045i love them all, even Kris likes to throw the soul around like it's a toy, but that's okay, they'll come around eventually... hopefully
>>530668470Based, we need to go back to the 2000s/2010s
>>530668143I self insert as him and also she's a sexy low functioning autistic qt
>>530668143Kris is one of the more interesting RPG protagonists I've played in the last decade or so. I've only ever played one game where the protagonist was actively antagonistic to the player (and it wasnt very good).
Catty's speech at the church is a hint: in True Pacifist everyone from Hometown and Castle Town will become a hero from the prophecy.
>>530658607>>530658465Twittards really doxed and mass reported this channel because of a weird route rape joke.
I trust Kris. It's fine, I'm sure they know what they're doing
>>530665281Filtrari
Manieko
Grand guide
you don't know them because they're from chapters further on
>>530668778What game are you referring to?
>>530668830Based, pedo rapefags should be bullied.
>>530657112That their boob size, actually.
>>530668338That's Toriel and Asriel, Anon.
>>530668883https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contact_(video_game)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oDZ2vN9XF0
>Chapter 5, The Field of Pink and Gold.
>>530669062>masafumi takada on soundtrack yeah I'm finna peep the rom, thank you
>>530669062God that game sucked
>>530668830That's fucking sad, but not unexpected
>>530669216I'm a Takadafag too but unfortunately he couldn't carry this one
>Darkner actually murders you, forcing you to reload the save
>Aww, so cute <3
>Kris throws us non-lethally
>ARRGGGHH, kill Kris, kill Kris, kill Kris
why double standards?
>>530669216Its not a horrible game by any means and its at the very least quite original, it just didnt mesh with me. But the music is good and the story is interesting, hope you enjoy it more than I did. I can say its stuck with me as a memorable experience for almost 20 years so it has that going for it.
>>530658607>it's the fucking video of bart simpson crashing into walls around the house
>>530669441Kris is actively keeping us from saving the world and dating Ralsei and is actively working with Carol who is most likely abusive to Noelle
>>530669441Most of the biggest hate reactions come from feeling betrayed whether it makes sense or not
>>530669554Knight is the same, does not stop fans from hugging it's fat ass
>>530669441>Kris makes a Dark Fountain that enables Darkners to kill themKris is unironically a retard who banks on (You) saving their ass.
>>530668830>guy who fetishizes violations of consent has his consent violatedShouldnt he be thanking them? Its probably a huge turn on for him.
>>530669441chapter 1 darkners: king forced me but now we can be friends
chapter 2 darkners: queen forced me but now we can be friends
chapter 3 darkners: tenna forced me but now we can be friends
chapter 4 darkners: we thought you worked with the knight but now we can be friends
chapter 1 kris: haha get trolled i was jus gonna eat pie lol
chapter 2: i was ready to let my mother die
chapter 3: no bunker for you
chapter 4: no dess for you
>>530669464>>530669423I have a very high jank tolerance and can put up with a lot if there's good music or some sort of novelty factor at play. I'm sure it's not very good but if it entertains me at all that's a win for me
>Noelle looking traumatized
her aurafarm pose looks fucking cool
Sword Route is in Kris's Dark World they made of their own volition. The little tranny was going to go on a stabbing spree at school of it wasn't for us.
>>530669672(You) want battles, tho. (You) even go out of your way for optional bonus boss battles.
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>>530669762>the easiest argument to refute a pedofag is to rape them.
>>530669672>Kris: "Heheheh, I am secretly working with the Knight to bring abour Roaring.">also Kris: "TASUKETE, PLAYER-SAMA! I AM GETTING RAPED BY PIPPINS."
>>530669441Berdly murders you too btw
>>530669441Darkners become my friends but Kris still hates me
sovless kriss would end up like that shitty mobile port, having them stuck to the end of times in the lancer battle
>>530670009No, you should first age-regress him, both mentally and physically, and only then rape him. Fully knowing that your fate is going to be the same.
>>530669932>"No, no! It's (You)! It's (You)r fault!"Fuck off, Toby!
>>530669524Amazing, right?
>>530670041now that berdley killed kris he can finally leave the underground
>>530669441>Toby literally won't let YOU kill darkners who try to kill you>get noelle to kill them insteadSnowgrave is kinda based ngl
>>530669908Oh there's tons of novelty. Very interesting ideas at play and you can tell a lot of thought went into making it a memorable experience.
>In Contact, several atypical gameplay mechanics ensure a certain amount of alienation between the player, the Professor, and Terry. The Professor talks directly to the player, giving instructions in order to help Terry. Once battle mode is entered, Terry's attacking is essentially on autopilot - being done automatically provided the attack is not on cooldown, and Terry is within range of the enemy. The player can switch weapons, move Terry, and use items, decals, and skills, but the bulk of combat is out of the player's hands, and they essentially watch, waiting for the right moments to use their abilities, while Terry handles attacking on his own.>Unlike many RPGs, experience gain is instantaneous during battles, which complements the real time combat system. Rather than increasing multiple statistics at once, Contact's experience system increases Terry's statistics individually as he performs specific actions.[4] For instance, when Terry takes damage, his defense increases; when he damages an enemy, his strength increases. There are other statistics that affect Terry's relationship with the game's non-playable characters, including fame, courage, and karma. The character can attack any NPC at will. As animosity towards Terry grows, townsfolk will attack Terry on the street or run when they see him. Weaker enemies also flee when Terry advances depending on his fame.Man I miss the shizo gsme libraries of the DS and PSP. Shit was whacky.
>>530670159okay anon one of my guilty pleasures is furry regression ageplay but i don't think we should say these kind of toughts out loud yknow
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so what's the deal with 3/4's version number anyways
>>530670290IceShock is not lethal, so they're not even dead. It's not much different from petrification.
>>530669924This really shouldn't come as a surprise at this point. Kris fucking blushes when Susie asks If they usually carry a knife around after they give her the knife to make a fountain. As of chapter 4 It's hard to deny that Kris and Chara are the same
>>530657597I'm somewhat surprised that Spamton posting hasn't really fallen off any in the wake of new content
maybe if kris was a bit more determined they wouldn't have to deal with us forcing them to rape noelle!
>>530670438It's not 1.00 until Top Chef gives you cake
>>530670476Chapter 3 was filled with Spamton content so it makes sense.
>>530670438They weren't fully bugfixed into a stable 1.0 build and had to be released early for the Switch 2 release
>>530670553But, that low? 0.0.09 makes that shit sound like pre-pre alpha
>>530670476tenna is spamton adjacent (or is spamton tenna adjacent?) so there's that
>>530670657They likely just never bothered to change the first and second numbers. Steam version number is the official one, anyway.
>>530670452Kris is both Chara and Frisk because Untertale is a dark world that takes place in Kris' imagination.
Kris dislikes people that don't like Susie, fair enough, Susie is neat
However Kris makes no attempt to convince them that they're wrong about Susie whenever the topic comes up, just looks grouchy or acts out
Does Kris have a very good 4D chess reason to do this or is Kris just kind of a loser
>>530670657They're the 91st and 90th version respectively, not that low
Possibly auto-incremented whenever you export a release build?
>>530670832>FriskCreate a table pic with similarities between Kris and Frisk. Well? I'm waiting.
>>530671042Susie is easier to manipulate and keep for himself if she has no other friends
>>530671042>is Kris just kind of a loserYou already know the answer
>>530671042Kris is afraid of himself. He thinks if he gets pissed enough, he'll start murdering monsters, so he holds back and stay silent.
>>530671162Frisk is dark world Kris, you can figure it out from there
>>530665281it's fucked up because i had 3 faves for a long time and idk who to put up there now that 3/4 are out
>MTT>Queen>Brattywith the new ones being
>Jackenstein>Mr (Ant) Tenna
frisk would beat the fuck outta kris and chara
>>530671162Yellow
Adopted by Toriel (Chara was not actually adopted)
Directly controlled by the player
Bandage as their starting armor
Destined to become friends with Su(zy/sie)
Blue/pink clothes
Good at flirting
Good at wiggling
Joins a band
Willing to commit genocide
>>530671529Isn't Chara Frisk's game UI/Stat System? How would he beat up black boxes?
>>530670327>Man I miss the shizo gsme libraries of the DS and PSP. Shit was whacky.I agree! A lot of bizarre experimental mid range games were getting released by major publishers at the time, at bigger budgets than an equivalent indie release would get today, and a lot of those games would break even or better. Plus, devs seemed genuinely invested in trying to push boundaries with the respective hardware and its gimmicks. It's not like the state of the industry today where the handheld systems can play....the worst versions of AAA games from last gen
>>530671574>Good at flirtingSo we are now comparing Red Human SOUL to Frisk now?
When the light is running low
And the shadow's running low
And the place's running low
Seems like fantasy
There's a light inside your soul
That's still shining in your sou
With the truth, the promise in our hearts
Don't forget
...I forgot the words of the song
Frisk is good at flirting because they are a lover, not a fighter, Kris is good at flirting because they're slightly sociopathic and are good at manipulating people
Why did noelle kill spamton just because I told her to I'm literally shaking and crying rn
the dessrielfags are getting too full of themselves...
>>530672012Actually Chara told Noelle to do that.
>>530671162In addition to the aforementioned: similar name, likes pie(?), hair is actually a little more similar than Chara's, wields wooden implement
Kris's personality is mostly Chara and their appearance is mostly Frisk
>>530671802We only tell Kris to flirt, not what to say
>>530671984I'm good at flirting because instead of looking for a job I spend all my time in erp threads on soc
And kris benefits from that by osmosis, I guess
>>530671574Kris is an anagram of Frisk, minus the F
similar animations for hugging asriel as to hugging ralsei
toriel handhold scene
kris is the mix of chara and frisk, after you sell your soul to chara post genocide this is how they intercept your vessel in survey program, frisk is the body, the soul is yours, but chara is the piece of shit that takes over at times
>>530671952>cutSilly Jerry, ghosts don't have genitalia. Mad Ghost is lucky that that doll was owned by Alphys, and therefore have all required... organs.
Do you guys we might actually see Asgore commit suicide/die in chapter 5? I keep thinking about how potentially far the game might go with things becoming more dire in chapter 4, and if deltarune is the pie that UT is a piece of I canโt imagine how much of the dark stuff we saw in undertale would potentially be amplified in DR.
>>530672204>chara is the piece of shit that takes over at timesHow rude of you to talk shit about your partner. Chara is the only character who likes you and accepts you for who you are.
>>530672070>Actually Chara told Noelle to do that.Nice bait. The soul Is YOU, Chara Is Kris because they never died In the deltarune timeline
>>530671675by kneeling on em
>>530672174>I'm good at flirtingprove it
>>530672492Normal route? I sincerely doubt it, Kris's machinations getting their dad killed is a little too dark for the route where hopefully we can all be friends at the end
Weird route? Maybe
>>530672171Noelle and Kris are both indicators on what is Kris, and what is not. Noelle is surprised, Kris cringes. Got any more sources other than your little "ACT" headcanon? There are many ACTs that come directly from the SOUL, btw, like Double Buster power-up.
>>530672759imagine faking this hard to impress susie and ralsei
>>530672497>chara is the equivalent of that sibling who fucks up your vidya savefile just for shit and giggles, in a world scale
>>530672759it's pretty funny seeing all these animations having kris go this hard on what might as well be the equivalent of foreplay
>>530670832To go with this and what people replied to after this, Chara is the past Kris. The one who ended up in therapy as per Deltarune ch4's egg room. In ch3, the "sword route" shows that even if Kris is behaving and trying to be good now, deep down he still has a dark side. Regardless of what the soul's role is, Kris has both a light side and a dark side. Pacifist and genocide.
Undertale is his imagination using copies of people he knows to tell a story about his inner conflict. Ch3 egg room talks about these copies. Just a reminder, Deltarunes egg rooms are clearly in Kris mind, which is also odd because they give him items he can bring into the light world. And it also leads to him seeing the man from the egg rooms in the light world.
>>530656910 (OP)Name one deltarune character who isnโt autistic, bisexual, or an autistic bisexual?
>>530671952You can tell Jerry frequents /tttt/
>>530672452Maddie's tight doll pussy.
>>530672492Soriel CHADS run this series, asgore will kill himself in every possible route and the other characters will talk about how glad they are that he killed himself
>>530672991made for BPB (big papyrus bone)
>>530657019Her dark world self is obviously swole as fuck. Or at least has big arms. Lightworld Suzie looks like a beanpole though, you're right.
>>530672968/trouble in terrorist town two/...
>>530672953I refuse to do that
All this Frisk and Chara bullshit...however I'll shutdown any Idea that Kris Is Frisk. Getting the egg In chapter 4 takes place In a therapy room with Kris being told "We don't kill people here"
>>530672953I just think the monsters in deltarune don't care about gender when it comes to love/relationships
>>530672953Well it sure isnt you
>>530671042The last time someone got told Susie is actually nice, that "someone" then invited them to her house and threw him out to be alone with Susie. Now he ain't telling anyone jackshit.
>>530673135i'll take this discussion over more shotafags like we had an hour ago, i haven't seen that much fresh discussion about who kris truly is in these threads ever since 3 & 4 release
Does Kris give a fuck about Susie romantically? Guy seems okay to let Susie hang out with Noelle
>>530662465Why is Kris so bitch made compared to this 5 year old.
>>530673135How does that shutdown that Kris is Frisk?
>>530672816>>530672908Considering Kris still attacks way harder then both Susie and Ralsie are down on that fight, at the very minimum Kris does go hard af as just "foreplay".
>>530673320Kris has developed their own personality and will, so they are harder to use as a puppet. Frisk might as well be a glove.
>>530657321I had a dream that I discovered the home I owned was Toby's first house. I started discovering weird rooms. Then I found out where his new house was, and it was called "Circle House". He was sneaking around my house trying to get stuff he left behind. When I encountered him he told me Circle house was a giant circle and a financial disaster for him that had him 3 million in the hole.
>>530673263There's always shota to be had
>>530673168Honestly, I could see that. It's like the androids in Nier Automata, the personality comes first, and the appearance and gender identity are a distant second and third.
>>530673303Kris is more likely to be romantically interested in Susie than any other character in the game
>>530672814The warmify/coldify descriptions clearly come from Kris
>>530673479t. Anon who cannot discern the true love of friendship from romantic love
>>530673359Anon... that's a general mechanic. For each downed party member, the attacks of the remaining party members get increased.
>>530673303He's not okay with letting Susie hang out with Noelle, he's okay with having Susie distract Noelle, leading them both to remark a series of things that get a very strong reaction from Kris (positive from Susie, negative from Noelle).
It's not completely explicitly romantic but I'm pretty damn sure it's completely canon that Kris likes Susie and is hurt by Noelle trying to take her away and even putting distance between them as the method. And there have been a fair few decent moments to assume Kris could be crushing on Susie.
>>530673332Frisk would never struggle with thoughts of killing people, that name Itself Is only told on true pacifist. Chara latching on to Frisk's soul Is the only reason they can be corrupted.
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>>530665281>Papyrus>Chara>UndyneBut I also really love Flowey, Alphys, and Asgore.
>Noelle>Gerson>Catti
>>530672814When we tell Kris to say something other characters very often remark on the way in which they choose to say it, AFAICT we just don't have fine control over that. That applies to acts too, like toasting to Queen
You can interpret Noelle's reaction that way but I can't think of any other cases where we tell them to say something and it's explicitly more eloquent or whatever than they'd be expected to manage themself
>There are many ACTs that come directly from the SOUL, btw, like Double Buster power-up.For sure, but unlike the acts where the soul shines its light flirting is clearly mediated by Kris (regardless of their level of control)
>>530673556you think kris can?
>>530673556Still stronger life-bound love than Suselle, which is just a crush and can change in heartbeat.
>>530673556the best relationships are BUILT upon great friendships
>>530668143You donโt understand Toriel?
>>530673623>It's not completely explicitly romantic but I'm pretty damn sure it's completely canon that Kris likes Susie and is hurt by Noelle-what the fuck are you talking about
>>530673596>Anon... Toby Fox never ever changes game mechanics to reflect what's happening storywise, he just resorts to the same systems forever without any thought for what they might be communicating.t. You
>>530672953Spamton is strictly gay and insanely misogynistic
>>530673135He still might be "Frisk" if the theory about him being a goner human composite is true. The previous owner would be Chara and he'd be like Ralsei, in that he's his own being with his own wants and likes now where he wasn't before.
>>530672953king, queen, tasque manager, gerson, the TITAN, sans, alvin, snowdrake's father, monster kid, QC, carol
>not straighti don't recall any of them specifying they like all genders at any point?
>they're autisticfunny doesn't equal they have autism, otherwise this thread would have me howling
>>530673649That's a hell of an assumption that Frisk is only Frisk on pacifist, but even if that was the case. True pacifist Frisk could be who Kris wants to be in his mind and has been struggling to be after his therapy sessions.
>>530673556I mean, Kris wanted to ask Susie to go to the festival with him, which has been treated as a romantic gesture by everyone except Susie who's so pure and friendship-pilled she doesn't get it.
>>530673556Shippers having no comprehension of how relationships works? Shock. Gasp.
>>530673807Does the Titan really count as a "character"
>>530669441Kris is a filthy little traitor, and I hope he rots in Hell.
>>530673596...No, It actually Isn't. It only exists In the knight fight and only Kris does more damage.
>>530673721That is not how that works at all. You are a retarded child trying to vicariously live out your delusional fantasies through fictional characters. Kill yourself.
>>530673771I'm not going to discuss this with you. Susellefags have already made it clear they will never ever forever accept that Noelle said something hurtful and that it was a dick move. And if we discuss it for long enough, you'll simply switch to saying Kris deserves it anyway.
The entire rest of the DR playerbase already knows Noelle totally threw Kris under the bus and Kris reacts to it strongly while inside the closet. There's no point in convincing the remaining people who don't think so because that's only the ones that would die on the hill that Noelle did nothing wrong and Suselle is perfect and without blemish.
>>530672814>>530673660You all are stupid. Dark World is a fiction. You don't need any skills, the world itself handles that. What, do you think Kris also have "instantly-change-clothes" skill, or "shoot red hearts" skill?
>>530673479>KrisLikes Noelle, likes Susie as a friend, HATES Ralsei
>SusieLikes Kris and Ralsei, only likes Noelle as a friend
>RalseiLikes Kris
>NoelleObsessively crushes on Susie
>>530674064that strong of a reaction to something so basic tells me everything about you, you poor sad sack of shit
>>530670452Chara was never apart of the family, and is not Asrielโs sibling.
I don't give a shit about Kris. My only beef with him is that he likely intended to get Tenna killed, so depending on how the narrative turns out that's a very large guillotine hanging over his head.
>>530674156He no longer hates Ralsei is you choose the right dialogue option at the end of ch4.
>>530674083>"shoot red hearts" skillSo you didn't play chapter 4 then. The soul Is not a dark world power
>>530674247They were raised like siblings and bathed together and slept in the same HUIHEGUHEIGHUHG
>>530674083Susie failing at flirting with the enemies in chapter 1 disproves this
>* Time flies... Seems like just yesterday you and that girl had everyone here lined up.
>* Queen on her side, King on your side, Tenna in back... Oh, it was chaos, CHAOS!
>* Heh, only kids like you two would take a laptop home just to play make believe.
>* ... how is she, Kris? Are you two...? Well, it's alright. Everyone changes. 'cept us.\
Who is the girl? Is it Noelle or Dess?
>>530674173>trying to vicariously live out your delusional fantasies through fictional characters.
>>530673135>>530673649> * Are you here for Art Club?> * Right, this is where we draw pictures, and don't kill each other!It's a fine headcanon but I don't think this obviously means that Kris struggles with homicidal thoughts (as opposed to "this is an area of the game where nobody tries to kill each other unlike the rest of the chapter" or "the speaker struggles with homicidal thoughts" or "somebody has tried to murder the speaker before" or "somebody has tried to murder Kris before" or "remember how in Undertale you can murder So Sorry")
And in the epilogue Asriel addresses Frisk by name and then says
> * Don't kill, and don't be killed, alright?>>530674083Ralsei and Susie suck at flirting and can't come up with smooth lines, I don't think this is handled by the world
>>530674156>>Ralsei>Likes KrisRalsei likes Kris and Susie equally according to tea values
>>530674419And none of them ever called Chara a family member. Just someone they knew, or best friend in Asrielโs case.
>>530673556>The way Kris tells Alphys about losing sleep because of Susie that makes Alphys immediately grin.>Noelle constantly asking with fear why they're both together so often and then getting flustered at the response.>Susie being the one option to go to the festival with that Kris always consistently defaults to, explicitly just her.>That line in the mirror about Kris finally feeling like himself as long as Susie stays.Yeah no, absolutely my dude. You're right, you're the love guru of the general who can tell what is and isn't romantic.
>>530674435>Are you two...?This seems more applicable to Noelle
Dess would be more interesting but I think Noelle is the obvious referent
>>530674435>Queen has baseball motifs which tie her to Dess>Hints from in-game and the ARG imply that Kris used to not like playing with Noelle much>Chapter 1 and 2 Dark Worlds involve make believe characters and were presumably created by the Knight, Noelle is probably not the KnightIf it's Noelle I'll be surprised at least
>>530672730so, uh... you come here often?
>>530674156>>530674345I don't think he ever hated Ralsei, he hates himself as does everybody else.
I'd say 120 is elevated friend status, since Kris like Ralsei slightly less than Noelle, who he kind of likes as a friend already.
>>530674461That's way too specific of a line to say in the therapy room for how serious that area is.
>it means you can't kill anyone in the secret bonus area where you never usually do this anywayreally?
>>530674431>>530674461SOUL is good at flirting. We already have piano for Kris. Flirting does not make any sense for Kris, both for current Loner Kris, and past Demon Child Kris.
wish deltarune had more merch. like little gacha figs
>>530674625Ramb doesn't know that Dess is dead/missing if Tenna is any indication
>>530659987If she's a devil than I shall become Hell itself so she'll a warm place to rest.
>>530665281>Chara>Undyne (UT)>Gerson (both UT and DR)Have an odd question because I'm a mind of terrible things: Do we have a cattifag that is also a greenfag and familiar with demonology? If so that idea is for them.
>Idea; You and Catti summon Ralsei's parents(you) and Catti do some devil summoning in the dark world while Ralsei's interested for whatever reason. In the process you both actually started getting results scaring Ralsei a bit when some small demons started being a part of Castletown's residence (if wanting to give Tenna a heart attack, could include a naked one like a Harpy/Mermaid). A few weeks later you two would eventually start doing big-boy/girl demon rituals. After some latin and whatnot you have Baphomet and Shub Niggurath standing before you; que wholesome family moments. Baphomet/Shub are proud of Ralsei for finally having friends and hope they can stay in touch this time. Catti handled the demons while you talked with your prince about how to expand Castletown housing.
>>530674156>Likes Noelle, likes Susie as a friendThe fact the guy insisting he's the one who can tell what the relationships in the game really are like opens up with "Kris likes Noelle" is just pure fucking gold.
>>530674445you got nothing better to say?
>>530674972i meant to reply to the other anon who said it, but too lazy to correct it
Is it beautiful or tragic that Kriselle realistically only has a chance in the most evil possible route?
>>530674778We can see from Coldify/Warmify that Kris is perfectly capable of being eloquent though
>>530675047it's a beautiful tragedy
>>530675108well thats new
FAVE NO
DO NOT SPEND MONEY ON DIGITAL HORSE GIRLS
FAVE
FAAAVE
>>530674913Doefags don't play the game
>>530675047I dunno if I'd call Kris fumbling Noelle so catastrophically hard that they got into this situation in the first place tragic or beautiful
I guess it's both in the same way a trainwreck is
>fanfic shit being spammed in /utg/
>>530674584>>530674776>>530674913The tea represents the SOUL's feelings, not Kris.
>>530673556I agree, but that's more of a basis for possible romantic interest than there is for the rest of the cast. Kris doesn't really express strong affection towards any other character in the game besides his family:
>Toriel/Asgore/AsrielParents/sibling, obviously Kris does not want to fuck them
>NoelleSeems to enjoy teasing her but is otherwise unengaged, Noelle notes that Kris never compliments her or behaves outwardly friendly of their own volition
>DessUnclear, pending further information. If we assume that Dess is the knight and also the girl Ramb talks about in chapter 3 that brought the laptop home to play make believe it would be feasible that Kris would have some sort of crush on her
>BerdlySeems to be less hostile towards him than he is towards Kris, but they seem to mutually dislike each other
>CattiFriendly relationship, but taken
>RalseiKris doesn't even seem to like or trust him initially for any number of reasons, Ralsei is actively opposed to their apparent goals
>SpamtonSeems willing to cast his die with him out of empathy or in hopes of removing the soul piloting his body, seems to have a panic attack after Spamton fails to break free from the force controlling him, relationship seems to be purely transactional on either end.
>>530675316Fanfics? In my /utg/?
>>530674794wish deltarune had more merch. like fleshlights made from characters
>susie widens up the further deep you go>ralsei is tight all the way but soft and smells of marshmallows>kris comes with a double side, dark world pussy and light world asshole
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>>530674794If we do, watch them be japan-exclusive like the gashapon keychains
>>530675108Lmao did fucking tkmiz draw this??
>>530674794Pizza deodorant
>>530675335completely incorrect, no choice we make modifies their values, if this was true the Noelle tea would have a different result on the weird route, and any Ralsei interaction would influence how high or low it got.
>>530675456I'll add it to the writebin
Kris going out to try and comfort Noelle after Snowgrave and Noelle having such a strong reaction to it makes me think that Kris does actually like and care about Noelle at least somewhat, but probably has mixed feelings overall because of their shared history
>>530675465Ralsei fleshlight with fluffy outer texture
In the normal route chapter 5 has the berdly date playing whack-a-mole to earn kris a super smashing fighter plush toy in the festival
In the weird route instead noelle whispers 'billions must die' in kris' ear plunging her fist into kris' chest to grope the soul
>>530674776>>it means you can't kill anyone in the secret bonus area where you never usually do this anyway>really?It's the most murderous chapter so far so maybe, who knows
I typed out the first five explanations I could think of, that was the weakest of the bunch. Point is that you need to chain like three assumptions that are individually plausible but not at all certain and that you can present that as an argument but not as a slamdunk that'll shut down the Frisk/Kris debate
>>530675625>Spamton in Las VegasOh no.. not the casinos..
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>it's the year 2030
>DELTARUNE's final chapter releases
>it turns out you failed the pacifist route because you killed these things
>>530675625chuck him in the river then beat him with a paddle
>>530675335I assume you're one of those people who thinks the SOUL is its own character and the player doesn't exist diegetically?
>>530674901>Why Baphomet and Shub-Niggurath?Baphomet is goat dick while Shub-Niggurath is "The Black Goat of the Woods with a Thousand Young", can even fanfic they're the reason Castletown's fountain is so special in some way.
Alright Doefags, here are some FACTS.
>Noelle doesn't even know if Kris ever actually enjoyed playing with her.
>Kris' only usual actions towards Noelle were to prank her, an action which made Dess show up.
>Once Dess died/disappeared, Kris stopped hanging out with Noelle.
>The only times Kris accepts to hang out with Noelle now is when Kris needs something from Noelle.
>All of Wierd route is just (You), forcing Kris to go along with it and get closer to Noelle and corrupt her into loving Kris, which both freaks out and angers Kris.
Conclusion: Kris doesn't actively hate Noelle, but he also has never particularly liked her. Kris doesn't want Noelle, not even as a friend. Kris will still get mad if you hurt Noelle.
>>530672759Oh, he's already at it, huh?
I thought we'd have to wait till Halloween for the video like he did with Jevil and Spamton.
>>530675780Do you think that sand undertale remembers resets or knows that he's in a videogame
>>530675785Additional Conclusion: Kris has a thing for tomboys and/or older girls.
>>530675531>>530675617>king comes with a tail maw and a pump>queen has automatic succ functions>tenna comes with two antennas to pull from and a tie, if you squeeze it you can hear his famous catchphrase>titan is XXL>jevil has spikes on the inside, and a bell at the bottom like a jester's hat>spamton's has missing textures and is oddly bumpy, comes with a pipis vibrator>the knight is too similar to many other characters so you can't tell which one is it supposed to be even by touch>gerson is vintage
The remastered Deltarune in 2045 will require an EEG peripheral to calibrate the tea values
>>530675478Or crane game exclusive plushies like these 13cm ones. I have a feeling that a Kris and Susie one will likely happen for it in Japan.
>>530665281Susie
Asgore
Flowey
>>530675750i wonder what do these things purify into exactly
or what does the titan purify into too
>>530675750thankfully won't matter because abortion is okay in deltarune's democrat writing
>>530675860No, he explicitly doesn't remember resets and he probably wouldn't care enough to fight if he knew he was in a video game
>>530675750Okay but real question, would Toby actually do this? The whole basis for this game's story is defeating titans to keep them from destroying the entire world, not to mention that you're required to attack the wall-crawling shades to climb the titan tower.
>>530676134The Titan's theme is called GUARDIAN
there's something not revealed yet that maybe their purpose is not to destroy
>>530676134it will turn out that titan spawns are proto/corrupted darkners or something and then nubert will be confused as to why nubertina didn't show up today
>>530675983Why does moonland get so much exclusive merch anyways? Is it cheaper there or something?
>>530665281Kris
Shyren
Noelle
>>530676145The cleanup is not fun however
>>530676134The way the stat works, if you purify the same or more spawn than you slay, then the stat changes to "Purified" instead of "Slain" but the number itself does not change. For example, if you kill one and purify one, then it displays "Purified: 2". Therefore even if you fuck up in chapter 4, as long as you purify two more spawn later on, your stat will change to "Purified: 4" and it will be like you never killed any to begin with.
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>>530676279Bandai has a mass production pipeline for cheap merch since they're a giant billion-dollar toy company and Japan has a market for it
Expanding that operation outside of Japan would probably cost more than it's worth
>>530676279They buy more merch than gaijin do so they get more merch
Do you think Kris is aware of our resets? Or the Knight?
In Undertale, Sans knew about the resets but didn't really remember the past timelines. Only Flowey actually carried over memories.
Which do you think it is for Kris and the Knight? They almost certainly know (You) are the reason things can keep progressing, but are they aware of the timelines and to what degree?
>>530675785That would mean their childhood friendship was Forced just like Noelle said and I don't think it's going to be that simple, especially since Kris is such an ornery little introvert that's hard to get a read on
>>530676279burgerland has only small pockets of obsessed deltarooners, same for the northern middle east, every other place is too poor
moonland is obsessed at a greater scale, and since you can find a photo of toby if you search the word weaboo in wikipedia, i'm not surprised they focus their production of merch there
>Deliberately kill the filthy titan spawn who can't even come to your castle town
>Still forced into the "good" ending
What the fuck was toby thinking?
the theme of GUARDIAN is mid as hell but it picks up a lot once the guitar followed by don't forget kicks off
>>530676572I will never forgive Bandai for the creation of P-Bandai, they will pay for their crimes against humanity
>>530676770i wanna interact with a titan spawn further, i need to know their motives, if they're something more than a force of nature
>>530677010>if they're something more than a force of natureunlikely since it's stated that they're not even capable of comprehending "mercy"
>>530676396I'MMA FUCK THAT FISH.
>>530676697Kris is probably at least aware of the possibility since they had a savefile themself, but it doesn't seem like they remember our resets
>>530675785I get Kris. She is too annoying for a friend, but too nice to justify hate. Now that Kris is too old to release their pent up frustrations from her annoying ass by pranking her, they just avoid her if they can.
Now how things are currently going, all sights point to Kris absolutely HATING being a third wheel with Noelle present.
This is my theory
>Tier 1 Light: Angel (It's you!)
>Tier 2 Light: Angel-possessed SOUL
>Tier 3 Light: Lightners
>Tier 3 Dark: Darkners
>Tier 2 Dark: Titans and Titanspawn
>Tier 3 Dark: ?
How do you guys feel about being a side character in Susie's game?
This bitch is blatantly the main character.
>>530676697>>530677171Ralsei might be aware of the possibility too, given the way he notices when you solve puzzles before ever finding the solution but waves it off as โKrisโ just being super smart.
>>530677471>Susie's gameanon...
>>530677471I vindicate my purchase playing Weird route and stealing the thunder from this bitch. It's MY Deltarune.
I'm wholly expecting an AU by the time chapter 5 comes out based on the idea this is a generational thing that has one of the Dreemurs, one of the Holidays, and one of Kris' parent's when they were tweens doing versions of the chapters based on older tech/games, like chapter 1 involving backgammon and go, chapter 2 using typewriters and punch card machines, chapter 3 with a black and white tenna, and so on.
>>530675785>>530676703Here's what I think is the most likely case. Kris liked hanging out with both. He slightly prefered Dess because being Dess' friend made him feel cool and she had more interesting things to show, as is obvious from an older sibling that's had more time to form an identity and experience things. Kris still appreciated Noelle to a point. Dess disappeared. Both Noelle and Kris got depressed. Kris probably hung out for a while, but eventually stopped, because the depression made their play togethers just... well, depressing. Noelle just interpreted it as Kris breaking off from her because she was too depressed herself to realize she was doing the same.
Flash forward, Kris still cares about Noelle, but now because of THE PLAN and THE PROMISE, whatever they are, keeps distance. Noelle just knows that Kris at one point fucked off and has been distant since, even once she stopped being always sad about her sister. Noelle starts to think Kris just doesn't care.
Kris still gets mad if bad things happen to Noelle, because on some level he still appreciates her, but also at this point they've drifted to far apart he also doesn't feel like they're friends. But Noelle saying they NEVER were friends hurt like fuck, because that's literally the last time Kris was ever happy.
Now Noelle is trying to turn him into a third wheel and take Susie's time away from him, and it's literally the most hurtful thing that could happen to Kris short of Susie actually discovering his lies and breaking their friendship completely.
>>530676647Don't disassociate too hard. I already "lost" a month and can't even enjoy the food I like anymore
>>530677384This is my theory
>Tier 1 Light: Reality/Heaven ((You) are here)>Tier 2 Light: Light world>Tier 2 Dark: Dark world>Tier 1 Dark: Hell/Depths/etc>Tier 0 Light/Dark: Code of the game itself connecting every layer together, what the Titans are guarding
>>530677471youtube told me the game is actually about wing gaster getting revenge on me for my genocides in UNDERTALE and planning a rebellion against chara
>>530677471The main plot is about Kris, their past, their promise and us having to somehow save them from it all
If you think Susie's the protagonist then you're getting too caught up in her excitement and believing what she's being led to believe
>>530677681I dunno, Kris seems at least somewhat supportive of Susie and Noelle getting together, given some small interactions like giving Susie the flower at the gate to the Holiday manor just to make Susie look like she was being romantic (which she immediately ruined with cluelessness but I digress)
>>530677480He also straight up tells (You) to SAVE
>>530677471Hmm, that's strange
I don't think susie was there when I crushed spamton with noelle
Or at northernlight
Or when I replaced the thorn ring
Strange
>>530677964> Kris seems at least somewhat supportive of Susie and Noelle getting together,I don't see that in the slightest.
Can the angel be only one person?
>>530677964literally any evidence of this?
I feel like Sans and Kris would have gotten along if Sans hadn't been so blunt about wanting to fuck Toriel
Maybe it's just karma from pranking Noelle all those years, he received the ultimate prank (doing your mom)
>>530677964KRIS gave SUSIE a flower. Kris didn't give Susie a flower for Noelle. Susie didn't think the flower was for Noelle, nor did she give it to Noelle. Noelle just saw Susie holding a flower and made an assumption, which immediately got shattered.
If you're gonna take just that as evidence, then all those gags of Noelle thinking Kris and Susie are dating and Kris even leaning into it have even more weight.
>>530677471My fuarking hero
>>530677964Kris gave her the flower because she asked for a snack
>>530678038>>530678135Did neither of you keep reading to see the one main example I gave? Kris gave Susie that flower right before the gate entirely on their own, clearly seeing that Noelle was approaching from offscreen, why else would they do that if not to either set Susie up or to poke fun at Noelleโs crush
good morning I love Tenna
>>530678337He gave susie that flower before noelle got there, specifically because she asked for food
Genuinely derranged take
>>530678337Susie literally asked for a snack and Kris didn't want to feed her another Revive Mint so the flower was the next best option
>>530678445I wanna rip Tenna to pieces
>>530678337This is extremely minor and circumstancial evidence that Kris even cares about Noelle's crush that still ends in a 50/50 on whether he likes or dislikes it. Kris doesn't even attempt to tell Susie that she should give the flower to Noelle, Kris tells Susie to eat it.
>>530678445good morning I love susie
>>530677681I'm not gonna believe Kris was massively hurt by this until I see them do something to indicate it, when they're actually hurt or pissed off they know how to show it
Kris seems to have deliberately distanced themselves from other people so from their perspective Noelle thinking they were never friends might even be a good thing as a part of the "lone wolf heroically suffering alone" act that's gotten them working with the Knight in the first place, and then it'll be our job to get both of these idiots to realize how much they care about each other and maybe get Kris to rethink things
>>530678534>>530678589The timing of Noelle approaching immediately after Kris gives it to her tells me that they saw her coming and, at the very least, knew this would fluster Noelle a lot. Remember that Krisโs vision isnโt locked to a top-down screen by screen view like (You) are.
What the fuck is Jevil's problem?
>>530677964Huh, didn't Kris give Susie that flower because she was bored? Like Kris probably knew she's gonna eat it, stomp it, stuff petals in her snout etc. instead of giving it to Noelle. Or maybe?... Naah we are all reading too much to an obvious gag
>>530678734>when they're actually hurt or pissed off they know how to show itNot when in a section of the game where Kris is purposefully trying to stay quiet, and also not give out too much information to the soul, which is literally staring at them right there.
The fact Kris literally cannot stop themselves from reacting despite their best efforts, even though it lets (You) reach the guitar, is just as telling as an over the top reaction at any other moment.
>>530678801>Spamton asking Jevil to help anyoneFake and gay
>kidnaps dess and takes over her corpse
>turns kris' headband into a murderous psychopath
>drives spamton and jevil insane
what the fuck is his problem jesus christ
>>530678863Itโs a gag, sure, but still one that Kris orchestrated on their own, since I doubt theyโd have no idea Noelle was approaching at that moment, since Susie had her back to the gate.
Whether it was just a lighthearted prank attempt or a genuine wingman move is up in the air, but Iโd say it definitely doesnโt show any sort of animosity towards Noelleโs crush.
>>530677984Him offering to do everything at the end of the second sanctuary probably wasn't just trying to appease Susie, I think his knowledge of game mechanics includes puzzles and solutions, and understanding how cutscenes work for things like making the SOUL watch Susie. He probably is holding back both strength and fire magic because he is that committed to his role as the white mage of the group. Him teaching Susie healing magic and her subsequent hangup on it is really his own fault, and since Susie's heal can become more economical by TP usage than Ralsei's by the end of chapter 4 with the right equipment and grinding, chapter 5 needs to address him falling behind.
>>530679078If Kris gave Susie the flower explicitly because Kris noticed Noelle approaching, then giving the flower to Susie is still a 50/50 on either playing wingman or making sure Noelle sees that Kris gives Susie flowers and Susie accepts them.
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toby got niggas debating whether a scene was a gag or not lmao
>>530677471Her being the hero of the story isn't the same thing as her being the protagonist
>>530679104With Kris's obsession with cheating at dice and cards, are we getting a casino Dark World?
>>530678970He just wants to make the game fun for (You). Your humble servant will follow you to the utmost.
>>530679439alphys would be a puffer fish
>>530679270I donโt think so, since Noelle didnโt even notice the flower until Susie turned around, so from her perspective it would look like either Susie brought it herself or Kris gave it to her for that moment.
>>530679576>or Kris gave it to herHOW ARE YOU SO STUPID
The Angel is Gaster but in chapter 6 he will fall and become the devil, the player or Noelle will replace him as the angel in chapter 7.
>>530678926Kris goes [!] at a LOT of things in that scene, if we're talking about the Forced line particularly Kris uses the blushing "Cringe" pose
If Kris felt "hurt like fuck" then there'd be more to it, is all I'm saying
>>530679170He also hums along with the background music
>>530679618Yeah, or Kris gave Susie the flower so she could then give it to Noelle, you know, wingman behavior
>>530677904>The main plot is about Dess, her past, promises to her and us having to somehow find herFtfy
>>530679429This is why creating media is never worth it. Art is fucking dead.
>>530679629No they don't.
The blushing pose is for when Susie talks about flirting. Kris doesn't use it at any other points throughout the scene.
>>530679518It's not a real JRPG without a casino so we have to get one eventually
>>530672051What did you mean by this
>>530679761If people care enough about your story to debate little things like this you've made art
Kris will call Susie Dess2
>>530679952Noelle will call Susie Dess too.
>>530679952That's why they like Susie.
Replacement tomboy.
>>530679429Divorce is a painful thing yet Toby writes the scene with Asgore trying to patch things up as a joke.
>>530679712That's still a 50/50 you fucking moron.
>>530679806NTA but you're wrong, the blushing sprite called "cringe" in the files is used for both the flirting and ferris wheel sections
So this is December, right? She has little antler horns and the fight happens in the snow with northern winds blowing.
Susie really is Dess reincarnated
You guys know that a scene can be a joke while still showing insights into how a character actually feels about something/someone, right? The two arenโt mutually exclusive
>>530680079It would be infinitely more sexy if it was Carol.
>>530680024Divorce is rich vein for comedy
>>530679992If it wasnโt for you, autists, I wouldโve never noticed that in this scene. The only blush I noticed by myself was when Kris gave Susie the knife
>>530679952Berdly will call Susie Dess3 because he knows Susie is thrice as good as that hag
>>530679302>Jevil: Forced into imprisonment and locked away from soceity, thinks he's free>Spamton: Under the influence of some higher power that's actively listening in on his speech and censors him when he gets out of line, attempts to become a big shot to regain control, only to degrade even further and collapse >Gerson:
>>530665281Spamton, Tenna, Ramb
>>530678734I really wish we knew more about what Kris is thinking. I want to make Kris cry.
>>530680079Right now the answer is probably, with a twist.
>>530680079It's definitely a holiday, most likely carol
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>>530679992>>530680037If you guys took these screenshots from the Youtube video showing the scene, that video fucks up the scene because Kris is blushing at Susie saying they rode a ferris wheel together, then it lasts for too long and eats up the reaction to Noelle saying it was forced. Kris is blushing at Susie's previous comment, not at Noelle's. Noelle's just makes Kris flinch, as in it suddenly ruins it.
>Kris knew Noelle was coming, because my headcanon says so
>>530680158Confusing the fuck out of audience isn't a plus because you can never tell whether it is really an insight that you are getting or a dumb gag.
Kris trying to set Susie and Noelle up makes sense if the plan involves Kris sacrificing themselves which is to say it's a very complex suicide plan
>Susie will be very pissed off about being betrayed, but I deserve it because (whatever reason caused me to make a promise) so that's fine
>Susie will have Noelle so she has a friend even if I am gone so everything's perfectly fine and dandy
Of course then Susie will cry out that she wants to be friends with Kris too and suddenly it seems like a very bad idea
>>530680501Anon, Kris could see Noelle from offscreen pretty easily at that angle, itโs not a stretch to say they saw her coming and decided to do something funny.
>>530680516>so what was the Knight like?lol I dunno
>what the fuck's wrong with you
>>530680492Is Rudy in a strong enough state to where he can drag Undyne, of all people, into a rape bunker?
>>530680516Sounds more like autism, a (you) problem.
Itโs obvious that the flower scene was supposed to be comedic. Noelle showing up just when Susie had the flower from Kris and then eating it on her face was pure comedic timing
>>530680079It's December's body.
FRIEND is controlling her corpse for his own keikaku (wanting to have fun).
>>530680656The gulf between males and females is that big
>>530680656when in knight mode, yes. hes basically killing himself going into dark would form constantly
>>530680720That scene is clear cut because Noelle as a character is a joke.
>>530680079It's december or an amalgamate with her in it
>>530680656If he's lying about being sick, maybe, but that'd require the hospital staff to be in on it and we should've gotten a hint by now.
>>530680079It's very VERY obviously connected to her but it's probably going to have extra steps rather then just being Dess herself running around in a suit of armor.
>>530680609Stop fucking hallucinating, Kris doesn't want to set up Susie and Noelle. You've got several instances of Kris wanting to be alone with Susie, including at the festival, with one single maybe sorta if you squint really hard and assume it's more than just a comedy gag it might result in a 50% chance that Kris tried to set up a single romantic gesture for them.
>>530680871Sheโs not a jokeโฆ sheโs strongโฆ and she will become stronger
>>530679992>>530680482Anons, why in the everloving fuck would Kris ever blush at Noelle saying that?
Like, fucking yourself this you autists, why would that ever happen? In what world is blushing a normal reaction to someone saying you're not friends?
>>530680482Kris has the cringe reaction on both lines separately
>>530680932Noelle becoming stronger is erasing her character until she becomes a braindead slave.
what was noelle calling forced again
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>he's a baaa
i'm a baaa
>>530681231he likes to cummmm
At this point chapter 5 needs to have Kris, Susie, and maybe Asgore take a 20 minute cutscene break to explain to the player who the Roaring Knight can be and lay out all the clues and hints and which ones contradict each other.
Make it a giant interactive corkboard and whenever the player tries to pick something that's 100% provably false have a giant red X come up with a loud noise and the game saying "no that's wrong you fucking idiot."
>>530681045She's talking about something Kris feels embarrassed about so Kris cringes from embarrassment
>>530681173Her and Kris spending time together when they were little, but she also admits that the friendship became real over time, so sheโs not saying that they were never friends, just that the circumstances behind them initially spending time together wasnโt really natural or either of their choice,, which makes sense given that they were just little kids.
>>530681231I'm the baaest baa around
>>530681173The ferris wheel ride with Kris.
>>530681173Either the ferris wheel ride, or the entire "friendship" with Kris. Impossible to tell because it basically goes like
>Susie: Hey there's a photo of you and Kris there, were you friends?>Noelle: Whaaat? Nooo, we were just neighbours, so we inevitable spent time together, we weren't really friends.>Susie: You're riding a ferris wheel together there.>Noelle: It was forced.It's impossible to tell if "It" here is just the ferris wheel ride, or the whole relationship.
And in truth it doesn't matter because whichever one she meant, the rest of the conversation makes it extremely clear that's how she's describing the whole relationship.
>>530680609>My mom will be sad but she can adopt Susie and she can take my bed and my pancakea>Well what else can I say but YABBA DABBA DOO
>>530681335That actually sounds like it could be a pretty fun minigame, silly AND informative.
>>530681436>but she also admits that the friendship became real over time???
Where did you even get that from?
Every single time someone on /utg/ genuinely and viscerally hates a character it turns out they're either misremembering or making shit up from whole cloth
Every single time without fail for 10 whole years
>>530681582Maybe the real Roaring Knight were the friends we recruited along the way.
if this slut cums even once i will lose it
he will bed edged until hes unconscious and LIKE IT
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>>530681280>>530681453mercedez benz i like to COME
>>530681480>>530681436How do people see this and think the girl that played with Kris wasn't Dess.
*unsheathes blade*
ban...kai...
>>530680413>Darkners are defined by belief and perception>Susie will make all the Lightners pray for Ralsei so he becomes strong enough to defeat the super titan
Of course Kris set up Susie and Noelle. Kris is already killing themselves just to let Asriel and Dess hook up again.
>>530681578That's exactly why we must stop Kris before that happens
ralsei has that dark souls asylum demon booty
do darkners stop existing when the fun gang go back to the light world
This will be Noelle in Chapter 6's Weird Route
>>530681634Susie asks Noelle to elaborate and the latter backtracks on how a forced ride wouldn't mean anything. In context it seems to be Noelle justifying her dream ride with Susie rather than acknowledging that she was actually friends with Kris.
>>530682181>In context it seems to be Noelle justifying her dream ride with Susie rather than acknowledging that she was actually friends with Kris.Yeah no shit. Who the fuck even reads that as "Oh, actually we became friends"?
>>530681634Huh, yeah my bad I misremembered that conversation
>>530681713Put him in a cage then
Sometimes I forget how big of cucks Susie x Kris fags are
>>530681436> but she also admits that the friendship became real over timeNo. That traitor doe has never stopped saying that she has no idea if she and Kris are friends
>>530682167No, otherwise Ralsei wouldn't have time to expand the castle and there wouldn't be a justified layout change when going to Castle Town in at the end of the chapter for the Mike fight.
>>530682118when it will happen i will say TOBIYAMA DID IT AGAIN, KINO
what do you think of this ENA game that Toby Fox promoted a while back?
>>530682379so if i put lancers card up my ass then go into the dark world, will he be in my ass or just covered in poop
https://youtu.be/JCoWQVHd-HM
>>530681436She's trying to downplay how close she is to Kris but accidentally shits on the ferris wheel ride with susie by what she says
She then panics and tries to change her answer to it being more important who she's with than if it was forced
Noelle is never honest with susie about her relationship with Kris. If I wasn't a hack fraud writer, I'd have it come up in a later chapter.
>>530682475i liked it, wacky and fun
Most basic design in the game, literally just a guy. But I love these wacky fellas. They're just fun Mr Game and Watch NPCs.
>>530682319Honestly the worst part of that conversation is just how much yellow text there is, it's like going into a room in a triple A adventure slop game and half the room has yellow paint.
>photo>close>we>neighbors>That's all.>Ferris Wheel>Forced.>back then>staring out the window>shook the whole thing>smiled>good/bad?>I was a kid
>Kris tries to set Susie and Noelle up so they're together when they commit suicide.
It's total bullshit and any evidence for it is minimal and overshadowed with evidence to the contrary, but let's assume for one second it's true, just for this greentext.
>Kris has a suicide plan.
>Susie and the time they spend together is the only solace Kris has until it's all over.
>Kris feels terrible about deceiving her though.
>Kris thinks to set up Susie with Noelle, does something like this flower bullshit.
>Kris still does want to spend time with Susie because it's the only little bit of joy remaining in their life before pulling the trigger.
>Kris invited Susie to the festival, very probably meant to be the biggest thing they do together before the end.
>Susie loudly yells she's taking Noelle to the festival instead.
>Kris realizes:
>Susie isn't even going to stay with them for long enough until committing suicide.
>Susie will already have moved on before even realizing Kris has limited time.
>The only thing that could possibly change this is the prophecy, but even then Kris will already know:
>Susie already tried to ditch them.
God, can you imagine how fucking distustingly mean that'd be?
>>530682813Iโm pretty sure that was an intentional joke, since it also highlights Susie saying โuhโฆโ while she struggles for words
THEY'RE LITERALLY ADULT KRIS
>>530682757>getting new tattoos whilst in the voiddamn didn't know gaster was chill like that
>>530682821Mean things happen to you when you do mean things to others like befriend them just to betray them in the end
Any kind of "solace" that Kris is getting out of spending time with Susie is tainted by the knowledge it's all for someone else's sake
>>530682813Yeah there's honestly too much part there that's yellowed. It's like people who get told to highlight important parts of a text and end up highlighting the whole thing.
>>530681193Blushing from embarrassment is normal. Also why are you asking me when Toby is the one who chose to use the cringe sprite there?
>>530682549I dont know, but he would be crying loud af, which is the funniest shi ever
>>530657832I WASNT THE ONLY PERSON WHO THOUGHT HER HAIR WAS HER SHOULDERS
>>530683190What about the possibility that Susie was never meant to be part of any of it but Alphys got her mixed in by sending her for the chalk? What if Kris just feels like shit about getting Susie mixed into all of it when it was never the intention, and the friendship is just genuine?
>>530682589She's not honest with Susie because she's not honest to herself about it either which is caused by Kris being such a weirdo about it so she's caught between what she wants (to be friends or more with Kris) and her meekness (if Kris doesn't want to be friends with me I shouldn't push the issue or act like we are)
It's going to come up later because it seems to be one of her and Kris's big issues and related to the Dess mystery, either Susie gets fed up and asks them both directly about it because she feels left out or Noelle has some character development moment and asks Kris just to set the record straight
>>530683172cool void grandpa
>>530682175Isn't the weird route supposed to end in chapter 5?
What if we were misinterpreting the delta rune all along?
>>530683434That's not her shoulders?
>>530682589>If I wasn't a hack fraud writer, I'd have it come up in a later chapter.I think we're all just awaiting with bated breaths whether it's gonna turn out Toby Fox is even more of a genius or just a hack fraud writer.
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>>530683067What IS that thing? Even the "it is ma'am" trans at Gamestop passed better.
I want Jevil to corrupt Ralsei, to show him real freedom. Freedom from the prophecy, freedom from the world. Together in their cell.
>>530683045In context, I think that uh and y'know is Susie trying to say Ralsei's name. Actually, I'm trying to remember if Susie says his name at any point in the light world segments.
>>530660493erm, exheese me?
>>530683680>The heart.It won't be the heart. It will be the Knight.
>>530683667Not that anon that you're replying to but I've seen this assumption circulating, but not exactly sure where people are getting this information from. Is it a rumor or is there some actual information that points to this being the case?
>>530683897Gaster's hands are the wings. The power to oversee the world
>>530683782>* It's been a good day, huh, Kris?>* You, Ralsei, Lancer, everyone...>* It's... just cool hanging out together, right?>* ... that's why, y'know... Don't you think we should...>* Try to have them come to OUR world?>* C'mon, think about how much better it would be!>* Ralsei could do our homework... Lancer could live under your bed...
>>530683782Oh yeah, Susie mentions both Ralsei and Lancer at the end of chapter 2 while hanging out on the couch.
>>530684153>So there's this boy, that goes to, uh, another school...oh for fuck's sake
>>530683983i think it's from people reading into Gerson's dialogue of how Lord of The Hammer stopped at chapter 5 but honestly i don't believe it one bit, both routes should go through the full game, it's only fair
plus, i don't think whatever will happen in chapter 5's weird route will be cataclysmic enough to warrant an IMMEDIATE endgame
>>530684431Why does she love that nerd so much?
Susie's actually a really sweet girl.
Too bad she's gonna have to kill Noelle in Chapter 6.
these are the canon voices btw https://x.com/neebldeebl/status/1943010402792804678
>>530683983I think it's because the ARG page with the weird route previews only has chapters 1-5
https://deltarune.com/chapter5/
But that's probably just because the ARG was back when we were supposed to get chapters 3, 4 AND 5 and the page is literally called chapter 5
>>530684552hold the fuck up
>>530684552It actually stopped at chapter 6.
>>530684663It's okay, Noelle consented, it's her fetish.
That poor Zapper that turned to stone next to his bestie....
>>530684742>H Jon Benjamin as SansI didn't consider this before
That actually works really well what the hell
>>530684610Hotfix applied (missing tail added)
>>530684663It's the player fault that didn't collect enough moss
>>530684612He gives her food.
I haven't done Wierd route, much less Wierd route into aborting it in chapter 4.
Please, PLEASE tell me after you abort it, the scene doesn't suddenly do a 180 turn to Susie once again saying she's taking Noelle to the festival. That'd be beyond fucking ridiculous.
>>530684610Not my scene but good art
>>530684781>>530684787forgive me, bad memory
also forgot about the chapter 5 link and the theory surrounding the numbers that other anon mentioned
>>530683983>>530684747Chapter 5 will be the end of the game. There is no chapter 6 or 7. If there is, they won't be part of the same story.
>>530684552Fair point. I DO think that it would be really cool if the weird route did end up bricking the game somehow at one point; considering the whole deal with it seems to be doing stuff earlier than intended (like getting the thorn ring).
The inability of a certain subset of blockheaded fans to notice Kris's gender is so. This is a game which places a nonbinary protagonist in a narrative that has them struggling explicitly with how much control they are allowed to have over their own life, whose best friends are a girl who is gleefully unfeminine and a boy who has no idea who he's supposed to be but sure seems to like being pretty, after the first few seconds of the game consisted of us trying to create our own form and then being told point blank "no one can choose who they in this world," where the above three children are all being railroaded into and struggling to escape their roles in a religiously per-ordained questline that we know ends very badly for them. If you think gender is not being employed here in a way that is specific, intentional, and thematically relevant then you are not serious
>>530685048If you abort Weird Route you get tossed back into the box to go sussy venting and it goes back to the normal route with Susie and Noelle hanging out
If there's consequences for freezing Berdly they'll probably start coming up in chapter 5
>>530685095Realistically chapter 5 is probably either going to be a bigger cliffhanger than chapters 3 and 4 or "end" an arc of the story in a satisfactory fashion, since it was originally part of the package.
>>530683561>She's not honest with Susie because she's not honest to herself about it eitherIf it was just being dishonest with her self, I don't think she'd be so eager to dismiss Kris.
I have enough faith in toby to believe that he wrote her like an insecure teenage girl (i.e. the only way she knows how to express that she likes susie is by talking down everyone else she's implied to like rather than just being forward).
If she was honest with herself about how much she liked kris she'd probably feel bad about doing it, but I bet she'd still do it because that's what stupid, insecure teenagers do
daddeh i wanna ride the ralsei
>200lbs child crushes him instantly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gixcYsL9bkA&list=RDgixcYsL9bkA&start_radio=1&ab_channel=Ziggy%27sStardust
>>530685338>If you abort Weird Route you get tossed back into the box to go sussy venting and it goes back to the normal route with Susie and Noelle hanging outGod fucking damn it Toby you fucking hack.
You are now imagining Susie writing Kralsei light smut fanfiction.
>>530685401Just thinking about this is going to make the WAIT even more painful, I don't want to wait a year bros.
>>530685321but kris being nonbinary offends me even though i call nonbinary people snowflakes
>>530685536The funniest thing is if he'd just slid backwards when he started his heels would have caught on the snow and he'd stay standing
>>530685587>implying susie knows how to write
>>530685594It's worse when chapter 5 gets released and we have to WAIT again.
>>530685594What dat mouf do
>>530685438Either Noelle crushing on Susie is being written really well with a payoff we haven't seen yet, or being written really poorly with no payoff that we'll see.
>>530685482Stop posting the most fag coded art in existence
>>530685587Susie making badly written smut stories about Kris and Ralsei or Kris and Noelle is an old idea.
>>530685775its a very grammatically incorrect fanfiction
>>530685536susie is gonna clap noelles cheeks no matter what route is chosen
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>>530685401>>530685594god the last cliffhangers already had my brain working overtime thinking about them, chapter 5's might actually set my brain on fire
>>530685438When I think about insecure teenage girl stuff I think more about how she follows Susie's lead in calling the way Catti watches movies annoying, which might lead to her doing some crappy things in the next chapter if Noelle's other friends get to show up
With Kris specifically their relationship has so much baggage to it between what she wants, what she thinks Kris wants, her own little mental problems and what happened to Dess and how it caused their lives to split apart that it feels way more complicated than just "dismissing Kris"
Artists of the thread, I have a question
What software do you all use? I use something someone I know made, but it's not proper art software and I'm thinking I might want to take learning how to draw seriously
>>530657396Post massive tail Susie.
>>530685949Not an argument.
>>530686187All hail the Hypno-Suse
>>530685917>You could go through a route where Susie and Noelle grievously mutilate each other in a blood rage and it won't matter and they'll still hook up because Love Always Triumps.>...unless you're straight, then you get painful divorces and your life ruined.
>>530686141>When I think about insecure teenage girl stuff I think more about how she follows Susie's lead in calling the way Catti watches movies annoying, which might lead to her doing some crappy things in the next chapter if Noelle's other friends get to show upYeah, very natural conflict to write.
Or Catti tries to get in between noelle and susie and noelle blows up at her.
Honestly it would be really fucking funny if she does that and then susie is like "bro what the fuck was that she's your friend"
I've literally never seen my parents drunk. Do white people really do this?
>>530686193Use Krita or Asesprite.
>>530686193Clip studio paint is my main squeeze, it's a god send and it goes on sale frequently. Though all the bells and whistles sometimes aggravate me and sometimes I use something like MS Paint to avoid fussing over brushes and such.
>>530685839I think Noelle crushing on Susie has always been reasonably well written. It's fine that the attraction exists, and the reason for it is grounded in a pretty unhealthy foundation that already says a lot about noelle as a character but could easily become something more.
It's susie's response to it which is fucking dumb. Well, and the fans who completely ignore all of the surrounding context when shilling the ship only because it's lesbian
>>530686376My genuine dream is that Noelle blows up at Catti from years of little grievances she never voiced and it makes Catti cry
Just straight up makes her friend cry and then feels bad about it and even Susie thinks "What the hell why did you do that"
>>530680112she wouldn't do that
>>530686393>he hasn't drank with his fathersad
>>530685040Is there any other possible reason toby decided to transform ralsei into a horse aside from "wacky random" humor
>>530687013The porn that would come from it
>>530687013he's a clopper
>>530683067cmon man that's barely a streamer i'd probably pump them
>>530683067Those are literally the most feminine legs I've ever seen on a man
Is he fucking wheelchair bound or something?
>You call on the phone
>Garbage noise
>>530686193FireAlpaca is simple and accessible
Aesprite for pixels, though I like using Piskel too
Clip Studio Paint has a ton of helpful features and is probably your best bet if you want to get serious
why do lizards have such mind control powers over yellow humans
and why do foxes have such mind control powers over peach humans
>>530686585>I think Noelle crushing on Susie has always been reasonably well writtenI disagree but more power to you. At least to me their romance feels like badly baked white bread, I just have to accept that Noelle crushes on Susie for unknown reasons and that Susie will end conceding one day because Toby wills it. The game itself has barely any decent writing on it, only the Holiday house scene gave something to work with even if itโs a mix bag
>>530687320I've clicked that fucking thing so many times accidentally looking through my key items
>>530686193sai because an artist I really liked used it but krita can do the same things
>>530687449>I just have to accept that Noelle crushes on Susie for unknown reasonsShe explains her reasons in chapter 2. Susie is "good scary" because she breaks the rules (i.e. she reminds her of dess).
It's irrational, in the sense that susie is genuinely just an unambiguously shitty person before chapter 1, but it makes sense given who noelle is
>>530683626Walt and Jesse
mista knight wrap up the fight bitch
>>530659923...rapeanon typed in his/her/xheir imagination, as Lancer shattered every joint in rapeanonKEK's body in reality
ralsei where tf you going don't break another fekin' prophecy while i'm trippin flashbacks you boytoy of a man
>>530688354Then job already, you faggot Kris
>>530685075>Not my scene??
I just took this from xitter, did you write some kralsei?