Sea Lord edition
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>>530685515
Who will be the FLC lord for Tides of Torment?
What would you realistically do in this situation?
>>530740957Masque of Slaanesh
>>530741089probably jsut masturbate
looks like this bandit campaign is in the bag in record time
>>530741339>Valkia with nu-Diablo's head3D coomers are a special breed.
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lol was this faggot actually right then? everyone was mocking him last week when yall posted this.
>>530741339if Grace saw this she'd flip out
>>530740957Styrkaar makes the most sense because he has unique rules and is an end times lesser demon.
In hindsight, the 'animation' videos as mostly done models in a textureless development environment background for 10 seconds as 'news' shoulda been a hint something was off
Tomb Kangz rework waiting room.
What's the /twg/ consensus on Clio?
>>530742497Literally a tranny probably in their mid 30s.
>>530742438About fucking time.
>>530742438I don't even think TK have ever needed a rework. They were perfectly done off the rip, and still hold up well next to WH3 factions. No clue what they think they need to fix on em'.
>>530742497I don't watch streams but from the clips I've seen she seems nice and actually into strategy games unlike most girls who pretend.
>>530740853 (OP)All I can say is they better fucking open up Ind in the patch or I am going to lose my shit with this massive delay.
>>530742614Have you played any of them lately?
>>530742041so they really did pivot???
>>530742438all they need to do is change khalidas victory conditions to dabbing on neferata when she is added
High Elves need a T1 sword and board, a LSG variant with sword + board and dual swords, White Lions of Chrace with dual axes, a T5 Swordmaster with dual swords, a T5 spear + board unit, a better artillery piece than the bolt thrower and actual Dragon Princes, maybe a Sun and Moon variant
Why didn't CA show us a model or concept art of Aislinn?
>>530742614>and still hold up well next to WH3 factions.No they fucking do not.
>>530742041When and where was this posted?
Because if it is something that was posted before, then it is absolutely true.
Also, I have no fucking idea why CA won't just fucking run a poll about what LLs are people most eager for instead of doing pivots that waste everyone's time.
>>530741089Take the Foppish Courtier.
>Karl Franz
>melee units only
>3 heroes max per army
I'm gonna do it
>>530742614uhhhh have you played them
let's say you take the vanilla experience of settra
you will immediately be steamrolled by skarbrand when he learns you exist
your skelemen won't stand for shit and the army caps don't help either
you don't know hopelessness until a rogue army spawns in the middle of your core territories and you have no army available to raise to get them
>>530743106Wow...
So much...
Stuf...
That's just...
Literally what they already have but with slightly different weapon configurations...
So...
Exciting...
Is there no way to remove or heavily minimise snow in the campaign map? Every other campaign map area, and manual battles are very smooth for me (even manual battles with lots of spells, attacks etc going off). But the areas dense in snow in the campaign map are awful for performance. Had a quick look at cheats and didn't find one.
>>530743389>16x dlc powercreep knightskino
>>530743428>you will immediately be steamrolled by skarbrand when he learns you existskill issue just ambush him and autoresolve
>>530743893cheat and cheat
>>530742497she's pretty cool but my heart lies elswhere
>>530740853 (OP)>ElfsI am indifferent
>>530743389Not even that wierd, the optimal stack for Karl is Reiksguard spam with heroes supporting. He also does pretty well with some Carroburg Greatswords.
>>530741089>"Your betrothed have slept with half the ballroom guests!">"Thanks for the compliment dude."See aSSurs, it's not that hard.
What is the official ranking of hottest female LLs?
>>530744291spamming one unit type is cheating
>>530744467every one of them is mogged by dreadfu
I feel bad for the Dark Elf and Wood Elf mains.
We all know who are the perfects characters for a LH pack.
>>530744467According to Clio, the top 5 are Morathi, Repanse, Hellebron, Khalida, and the fey enchantress in no particular order
>>530744864katarin too she chose 6 for her top 5
alarielle and drycha are hard passes
>>530744741Why ? The confirmation of "small pack DLC" is perfect for Naieth , Araltoh, Tullaris, Shadowblade etc etc ...
>>530744741DEs will get a rework with ToT.
>>530744467>Isabella>Repanse>Khalida>Fay Enchantress>Elspeth>Drycha>Morathi>Katarin>Twilight Sisters>Everqueen>Alarielle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxAqkVqBgI4
oh god he's doing the aranessafag challenge
>>530740853 (OP)Bros.
Wurrzag is so fun.
>>530744864I would swap Helle with Katarin but rest is correct.
>>530745293>no valkiahomosexual detected
>>530745293Gorequeen is hors concours
>>530745430Savage Orks are the Orc equivalent of Dwarf Slayers
Rot Knights are the actual best unit in Total War.
>>530745293>>Everqueen>>AlarielleAren't they the same person
>>530745430one of my favorite campaigns in the game
when you max out savage boar biguns they get like 98 speed, 130 charge bonus, and a bunch of other buffs
>>530744864>>530745293Oh come on, the Sisters that low?
>>530742781Elgi are compl- WANRAG?
>>530740853 (OP)How the fuck am I suppose to do anything as Imrik? Every goddamn time the Chaos Dwarfs attack me, and right as I deal with them, four fucking skaven armies just goosestep into my territory
>>530745436Clio likes older women
>>530742041>Just like Rich Aldridge mentionedThe biggest shit talker in the history of Fantasy Total War being all talk and no walk should not have been a surprise to anyone.
>GBoG hinting elgi are just getting roided and super roided Sea Guard
KWAB
>>530742041Chat...is this real?
>>530742041I do not believe the second paragraph. I believe he knew about the High Elves and threw that other stuff in there to troll
>>530746485hell yes! give me my ap missle halberd and shielded 90 armour hybrid units!!!
I don't want to play as Spanish people or Italians.
>>530742041>Masque heroBruh at least give Slaanesh a FLC lord too. If we have to wait almost 4 Christfucking years for just 1 Slaanesh LL I'm gonna be livid.
>>530746856what about spaintalians?
>>530742041Hey if it's any true at least red duke has a foreseeable escape from the hell of in-game but non-faction leader LL
>>530746871styrkaar is literally just waiting. why cannot he be flc legendary lord?
waiting for more wallpapers
Haven't played Beasts or Asrai in a long time. Guessing AR really doesn't like Beasts and/or likes Asrai.
>>530742041Please let this be true so team OvN can hang themselves lol
>>530747076I mean I'm hoping something like that is it bro. I'm beyond fucking disgusted that the second LL for Slaanesh is only coming in November 2025 (if we're fucking lucky at this rate). Christ fucking god it has been such a long fucking wait for these retards at CA to deliver on my favourite Daemon race in the game.
>>530747182I hate those corridor maps so much
Worse than sieges
Team ORCS or team GOBBOS, /twg/?
>>530747182Vanguard deployment > lock formation > RMB > AFK
I wonder what AR does/n't take into account, such as vanguard deployment. Impossible to fuck up this fight.
>>530747335Yeah they do get boring quickly, very samey.
>Empire is based around mixed unit tactics
>doesn't have a SINGLE unit support lord, generic or legendary
>the "captains" are just sword and board tanks
>the "generals" are just sword and board tanks
>the "emperor" is just a guy with a hammer and a gryphon
>even the greenskins have Gorbad
>>530747349I prefer the ones that are brutally cunning
>>530747558that is bad. good point. Even Khorne has a support lord now
Nefertitties next year then?
Hopefully TCALUK doesn't put her in a burqa like Elspeth
>>530747349choosing gobbos over orcs is like choosing beta white "cock" over superior BBC
>>530747728>Next yearCan't be fucked to excited for DLC that will only release in July 2026 at the earliest sorry.
>>530747558The empire is supposed to suck after all
>>530747558The generals did get a support skill line, it just kinda sucks and they have to choose between that and sucking slightly less in personal combat.
>>530747759orcfags are porn brainrot
color me suprise
>>530748165This but skaven
>>530742041If the halfling shit is true I'm sold
>>530748239Whenever they get around to adding grand masters they should rework generals into support lords. And also rework Karl to focus on state troops/mixed unit tactics so that Kurt can be added to focus on cavalry (especially reiksguard)
>>530748242goblinfags are esl
color me surprised
Cylostra sounds like she gives the meanest sloppy this side of The Great Ocean
>>530748928orcfags be like
Greenskins = outdated chud nomenclature
Orcs & Goblins = inclusive cosmopolitan vocabulary
You have been warned.
>>530744864>according to trannyOpinion discarded.
imagine not listening to an official CA content creator because of some outdated chudslop /pol/ assumptions
there is literally zero evidence that points towards Clio being transgender.
Tranny or not she's the only chuuba that plays strategy unlike the other vapid bitches who just play friendslop
>>530751062Literally who?
Fuck this IE project, if CA can't handle the game, why should I bother try-harding a personal challenge of it?
I'll just wait for the siege rework beta and play another WoC.
>>530752246Boris would NEVER.
What does this say about me
>>530752918You need to play more dota
>>530751880Lumi is THE strategy vtuber
So, when playing Meow Meow, do you usually just wipe out the gate faction or just wait and confed them?
>>530753109i just wait for them to get wiped out then i take the gates myself
>Two factions now have 8 LLs now
So are we cool with Lizardmen having 7 now?
>>530754095Nay.
Give me Tetto'ekko and/or Chakax.
>>530740853 (OP)>Be High Elves>Have Six Legendary Lords>Only 1 good one
>>530754729Agreed, and it's Alarielle for me. The first campaign I finished was as her back in TW2 and it took a long time as I was a clueless retard.
>>530754729But enough about Imrik
>>530754729Enough about Alith Anar
>>530754975Try to play Sneedith Acknar in comp and tell me how well that goes for you
>>530754095>>Two factions now have 8 LLs nowWho?
>>530754729>Be Dark Elves>Have Six Legendary Lords>Only 1 good one
>>530755627The only way to measure the strength of a faction/character in an RTS is through competitive play, that's the objective truth.
>>530754095warriors of chaos are the protagonist race
I guess that CA must have fired their balance team. Tamurkhan feels like a playable end game crisis.
>>530747759>american hours
I'm having fun on hard/hard with no AI stat buffs
>>530755419So how many times did Alith Rambo sneak attack you
>>530754095The Asur - Lizards alliance endure.
>>530752918cringe taste
>>530754349trve vnderstander
probably also the anon who posted those conan maps the other day asking for a total war conan, but maybe not
>>530752918you got filtered by dota
>>530754349you have bad taste but maybe tend towards games that respect your time more than the average player (someone who plays fifa or cod).
>>530755859>competitive playOH NO NO NO AHHAHAHAA
>>530759375Only if there's an elevator.
>>530754729True but let us speak no further of Eltharion.
>>530759375how do i get down to go to 7/11 tho
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>>530760032Aim for the bushes
>>530760273THERE GOES MY HERO
Starting a Norsca Campaign to increase my testosterone. In WH2 you had to be in Brettonia by turn 15 or you died to ordertide, is this as bad in WH3?
>>530759595>>530760032The platform by the sconce is actually a bus stop
>>530760670>playing norsca>right before they get their...Oh.
Yeah, go for it.
>>530760796Aight then.
How's the wifi?
>>530760670Nah you can relax more now. Vampires and Belakek will actually give Bretonnia something to do now, so they can't just set sail for Norsca on Turn 2 like back in the day.
>>530760670your biggest threat as norsca is either going to be chaos, dark elves, or kislev. Bretonnia is a jobber faction in wh3
>>530750714>unpromptedthey just live rent free inside you huh
>>530760827>right beforexD
Imagine not being an elf right now.
>>530761776feels great
I don't have to worry about my fellow genetically perfect specimens with extreme levels of education still consistently making some of the worst choices you can possibly make
lol nice corner camping faggots
>>530761956LMAO
Best description of elves I've ever seen. Just lacked "confidently making the worst decisions".
>>530742438Give TK a generic caster lord already. And yellow line buffs for necropolis knights. And another dynasty or two.
>>530761956>>530762089It seems that the dwarves have come out of their burrows.
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Never wanna see another squig again
Pouring one out for my boy Quintus, has to face the harsh realities at 16
>>530762481close your eyes lol
>>530760921No Fiber Optic that high up there so either get Morrslieb-link or steal from the Grand Observatory's public wi fi network
>>530762481it could have been worse
>>530762532R*man genetics...
>>530761308>spam trannytuber>le rentfree
VCoastsisters won the shittiest and most oudate faction award after the news lmao
Just delete it already
How the fuck do i deal with Clan Eshin? Why the fuck does that stupid rat have three full armies at turn fucking fifteen dawg
>>530765116Because they're armies consisting entirely of skavenslave and the strategy to defeat them is just "sneeze in their general direction".
And also make sure to prioritize slingers and leaders.
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>LE SPAM LE SPAM LE SPA-ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK
>>530765116>turn fifteenthat's enough time to level a wizard and get comical amounts of kills
>>530765061Bruh at this rate the "QOL "Updates"" for Kangz and Liggers will just be [+5 MD for Carrion] and [+5 MA for Temple Guards], take it easy.
The vtranny keeps getting spammed in these threads, yes.
>>530742438I hope they fix their rebellions. It would be turn 10 and your capital will get a rebellion with T4 construct spam. I have no idea how the game decides what units rebellions are supposed to get but it needs to be looked at.
>>530742614>They were perfectly done off the ripOne generic lord type and no ability to confederate any other lord says no the fuck they were not.
>>530742614>perfectly doneThey play like watching paint dry.
>as hot as Nan-Gau's forges
What did she mean by this
>>530742041>Neferata sinlge lord DLC>Cathay gets a 4-way lord DLCI'll fucking neck myself if true. Cathay doesn't need 4 more fucking lords while the Vamps get One piddly little lord and half a FLC character after 9 years of waiting for anything that's not Grave. Still missing 3 bloodlines if that's the case.
Fuck that.
>>530766563Should've supported the company, chuddie.
>>530766563you're right but CA would rake in at least 5 billion dollars if they made the cathay 4-pack and you know it. they need this money to make 40k and M3
>Win a crucial battle
>Crashes to desktop right after
Goddamnit
/vt/iggers should be treated the same as ponyfags, forcibly quarantined under threat of ban.
>>530754975>ranged LL who does nothing his whole campaign but fight dark elfs in cold forestsnah
>>530760827If you play them after they get DLC you did not beat the game with them, the time left to get an AUTHENTIC Immortal Marauders cheevo is waning.
>>530766563Where would they even put four more chinee lords?
>>530768263because over half a billion chinamen have compoopters
Likely start locations for Aislin?
>>530768458I was gonna say put him on one of those islands near Ind if they open those regions up, but after this announcement I've completely given up on that happening
Maybe somewhere in Lustria but the map is just too fuckin cramped now and there's not really a good unique spot for an elf. Maybe somewhere in Cathay
>>530768263I don't know, what's the easiest regions in the game? Chinks hate challenge.
>>530742438You cannot fucking expect a full Empire tier rework for TWO factions for an in between DLCs update. Dawi and Empire only got complete overhauls because it was their DLCs, and even then Ogres only barely got a touchup during their DLC as well.
>"SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS!!! MY DARLING TIDES OF TORMENT NEWS?!? YOU WANT TO DELAY TIDES OF TORMENT?!? YOU NEED MORE TIME INSPITE OF THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE RELEASED NOTHING BUT RESKINS FOR WH3 THIS YEAR?!? YOU DONT EVEN WANT TO SHOW US VISUAL CONFIRMATION OF AISLINN, INSTEAD JUST EDGING US WITH THE FACT THAT HES CONFIRMED?!? AND NOW YOURE BASICALLY CONFIRMING YOUVE RUN OUT OF IDEAS FOR LORD PACKS AND NOW JUST WANNA RELEASE SINGLE LORD DLC WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT EVEN INCLUDE NEW UNITS OR MECHANICS?!? DESPITE IT BEING THE 25 YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF THE SERIES, YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT BESIDES "WAIT AND SEE!?!" YIPPEE!!! AND ON TOP OF ALL OF THAT, YOU EXPECT US TO BE EXCITED FOR A NEW GAME?!? ONE THATS PROBABLY GONNA HAVE JUST AS MUCH SCUMMY PRACTICES AND DLC AS WH3 HAS?!? DLC THAT BARELY GETS PRICE CUTS?!?THEN WE GET ENTIRELY BLAMED FOR SOMETHING LIKE TROY OR PHARAOH FAILING DESPITE YOUR FAILURE TO ADVERTISE FOR IT OVER HYENAS WHICH COST YOU ALMOST A BILLION?!? TO SUPPORT A DEV TEAM THAT HAS OVER THE YEARS CONTINUED TO DROP IN QUALITY?!? AND YOURE GONNA CONTINUE TO EXPECT SUPPORT FROM THE FANBASE TO AN ALMOST BLIND DEGREE. Well, what else can I say except YABBA DABBA DOO!!!"
>they have accepted your offer
>>530768806Realistically, for the reworks I expect two thigns to happen:
Lizards get their LLs barely touched, as all effort is focused on reworking the geomantic web so the entire race is affected. At best, maybe hope for Oxyotl's missions to be made more challenging.
TKs get little more than some tweaks in their mechanics as they were already solid. THe focus will be in giving unique mechanics to its 4 LLs, and in Arkhan's case maybe go further in depth with the VC hybrid faction,
What kind of mental illness causes someone to type all that out
>>530769261>ArkhanThey just confirmed Nef and they still want to tweak Kangz first. Absolutely baffling. Should have at least waited to see if Nef will even be a count or a king since vamps will likely get a rework either way
I'll be surprised if TK get anything beyond a few tweaks and something to keep Skarbrand from steamrolling shitters
I'm in fucking tears. 231 hours on this game and i still don't know how to deal with the Skaven's menace from below.
>>530770001There's this wild concept in warfare called "reserves."
>>530769590Arkhans tweaks are gonna be he can confederate with Neferata and vice versa
>oh no, the enemy sent a bunch of unarmoured horses into my braced heavy spear infantry!
In hindsight, chariots were fucking retarded
>>530770001Stay back at the start of the battle, box your vulnerable units in and watch them waste their menace belows.
The blood letter summons are way worse but the strat is the same.
Did we ever have a chance?
>>530770404Careful when doing anything like this vs Ikit.
>>530769590>Should have at least waited to see if Nef will even be a countObviously Counts. The whole aesthetic of the lahmians is infiltrating society and they've being doing so in the nations of the Old World for a thousand years plus. More than 1k years of replenishing undead with old world stock, on top of the fact that Neferata as a vampire wasn't part of the great resurrection deal where the tomb kings rose and claimed control of their old legions.
Would be cool if conquering Lahmia unlocked TK recruitment for her though.
>>530770276chariots will never work with the total war formula because they were never meant for the total war formula
chariots charging infantry lines arent at all how you would ever want to use them, you use them to move elite troops around or just as archer platforms
post-battle they can mow down fleeing troops but charging a line would only be useful if its a bunch of levy peasants that are already about to break
>>530770423>sonic spinoff outsold either of the two biggest total warsThis will never not be funny
Wtf I though greens were supposed to be the duelists
My guy even started with a fancy armor and that is just the initial battle of the campaign
What's so special about the black coach anyway? it's just a fucking car that any half decent anti-charge unit can stop
>>530770921This, /twg/ overestimates the actual popularity of TW. The only big strategy games are AOE, Civ and maybe Ck for "le zanny i married my sister and sent an assassin after my infant son but he le failed" 100% truth trust me bro greentexts.
>>530770995Duels are decided solely by the weapons equipped and nothing else. If you've got a shit sword then it really doesn't matter how skilled or armored up your guy is, he's going to lose to someone with a decent sword.
>>530771564Probably why CA tried the Hyena thing. They probably desperately want more money than the 1 to 2 million of us nerds that care about Total War
Fucking backfired on em tho KEK
"specific characters that might not fit in any of our current DLC formats, so we are exploring how we might introduce a smaller style of DLC that brings a single LL, or Hero Unit alongside a few favoured additions. Weโre working out how these would fit with our schedules, but we have a good idea for who the first one could be, and sheโs someone near and dear to your blood."
https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/blogs/75
They're going to do it aren't they? The Vampire Count, Vampire Coast, Tomb King 3 Lord Halloween Pack....
>>530771983>HalloweenHalloween 2026 maybe..
>>530771983SPOOKY SPOOKY SKELETONS
Bit of a noob question but can evil factions build outposts? as in, could i, hypothetically, get some raling guns while playing as the Vampires?
factions which are fun in both battle and campaign:
>greenskins
>wood elves
>grand cathay
>warriors of chaos
>dwarfs
>chaos dwarfs
>nurgle
>high elves
>ogre kingdoms
>skaven
factions which are more fun in the campaign map than in battle:
>Kislev
>Dark Elves
Factions which are more fun in battle than in the campaign map:
>lizardmen
>tomb kings
>vampire coast
>vampire counts
>beastmen
>khorne
>tzeentch
>slaanesh
>bretonnia
factions which are not fun at all:
>norsca
>the empire
>daemons of chaos
ultimately, being fun in battles is the most important thing
>>530772521Literally all of those are fun in battles and campaign desu
>>530762481>10 000 years old elf warrior>die from a bouncing red mushroom which came out of the ground a week ago
>>530772850>be elf lord who trained for 1000 years at swordplau>get outmatched by some middle aged monkey >be dragon older than most species>get shot out of the sky by monkeys
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>be oh so superior elves living on muh island paradise
>literal rats bypass your entire fleet
How will Aislinn ever recover?
>>530771983> Halloween PackYou mean halloween 2026 ?
ToT is expected in october/november 2025.
>>530773031Could not happen in Cathay, everyone love dragons in Cathay, Cathay dragons are immortals, dragons in Cathay never attacked humans.
>>530773031Monke supremacy
>>530742041so the final dlcs are:
slaanesh
>slaanesh/norsca/high elvesdogs of war
>southern realms race pack plus empire/lizardmen/norscavamp dlc
>neferata plus red duke flccathay coc type
>4 cathay lordsunknown amount of character packs
end times dlc pack
>nagash? valten? crom? thanquol?does this mean that they are going to sell us egrimm instead of making him flc? what about todbringer?
>>530773475nuCathay whitewashing really sucks
>>530773795>4 cathay lordsNo fucking way
>>530773939i can see it happening especially since high elves now have 8 lords and there will still be multiple races with more lords than cathay
>>530740853 (OP)I like how everyone just uses the one piece of art we have of Aislinn because he is a literal no name who doesn't even have a tabletop model lol.
>mfw people used to whine about CAs VCount favoritism
>elves get EIGHT Lords
>>530742041>Shi-honghttps://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Shi-Hong
So basically Cathay gets their version of Malakai? At least Shi-Hong has an in-game load screen about him.
>>530774510SHOULD BE EIGHTY AND I WILL NOT REST UNTIL IT IS!
>>530774510I mean with Neferata and Red Duke that is seven for Vampire Counts. That is a good number. The Wood Elves are the ones getting screwed over. They don't even have their main character playable.
>>530774575Shi-Hong is the only living Cathayan human whose name we know in Grand Cathay and all his lore is from an in-game load screen.
>>530771921>be total war dev for decades>new game gets released hyenas>huge success>we dont make total war games anymore just focus on hyenas>previous VAs and guy who makes the campaign map and 90% of the people who made total war get laid off for new talent that specialises in live GaaS shitwhy do they even want this
>>530775119>previous VAs and guy who makes the campaign map and 90% of the people who made total war get laid off for new talent that specialises in live GaaS shitVAs are not even permanently employed at a studio, its more like a project to project basis.
Programmers are not "tied" to making a specific genre of games. You might have a point regarding designers, but these could learn. Also, had Hyenas been sucessful, I highly doubt they would have shifted completely all at once.
40k needs to be milked after all
Who is this 8th Asur people keep talking about? Aislinn is the 7th isn't he?
>>530775420You're right, I got elves mixed up with Lizardmen
>>530775420https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2965870624
>>530776018Why in the name of Khorne would i subject myself to a Cavalry based Helf campaign? Cavalry's like, the Asur's weakest point, next to artillery.
>>530776018Aren't Elves supposed to be beautiful? Woof.
>>530741889how does 2d still exist? like nigga you could draw that yourself. you could make AI draw that
>>530774189> the one piece of art we have of Aislinn See
>>530743981> who doesn't even have a tabletop model Ghorst
Kholek
Alberic
Mazdamundi
Nakai
Khatep
Cylostra
Aranessa
Noctilus
Kostaltyn
Ostankya
Miao
Zao
Yuan
N'kari
Ku'gath
Zhatan the Black
>AIIIEEEEE NURGLE SAVE US FROM THAT MORTAR SHELL PLEASE!
>>530776621cultivate a talent you fucking inbred
Y'all really out here talking mostly about a stupid arcade bastardization of Total War instead of playing probably the BEST Total War to ever exist, with superior mods for this exact IP?
Pic related.
>High Elves are getting Merwyrm
Chance for the Vampire Coast to get it too ?
>>530776762none becuse errrrmmmmmmm we need the license mmkay?
>>530776735says the dickhead randomly jumping in and suggesting AI
>>530776762Probably a reskinned undead version. Dark Elves might also get a "broken" version too.
What are the chances SEGA just lets C.A go and they become a self-published studio?
>>530776898prompt engineering is an artform
>>530776967Zero if you ever read SEGA's financial reports. SEGA loves CA for Total War DLC sales. Their 4th most important studio after the sonic team, atlus, and yakuza team.
>>530777112What does Shen-Zoo the youngest child look like?
>>530777112we still have another 17.5 months of content left, that's 4 dlc at the minimum
Cathay in particular has a lot more they could do with them, yin-yin, li dao, and monke are all coming
>>530742614They need way more sources of canopic jars. It was somewhat bearable in TWW2 when you could cheese it with disbanded lord skills, but now that they removed that the pace is fucking glacial. They should get a larger amount the more enemies they kill, like skulls and skaven food, instead of just the static 30.
>>530773031Seriously in what way would an elf that has thousands of years of experience and training more than some random dude ever actually lose to said dude? By all common sense this shouldn't ever happen.
>>530742041Holy shit...Legend was right about everything.
How do you obtain the burning books of khorne? I've had them offered/given to me in a few campaigns now, but I don't recognise what is required to get vol 1 and 2 (the first of the chain). The 6.2 notes just state "Eight Burning Books of Khorne โ Risk/reward chain of ultra-rare magical books with major gameplay impact."
>>530776121>next to artillery Dragon Princes aren't that bad
>enemy routs into my gunline and now they cant fire properly
this shit is so fucking gay
>>530776762___ looks ____ she _____ human ___
>>530778552The first set of books drop randomly like most items. After that equip it, then win battles with the lord who has it equipped until you get the next set. Rinse and repeat until you get the final, complete volume.
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>>530778471>that has thousands of years of experienceThe one way I could see this happening is a mix of
>the human being extremely gifted>the elf being extremely overconfident >the the elf, due to the elves dwindling numbers, is very young and relatively inexperiencedAnd perhaps the elf getting distracted in the fight, like what happened with Helborg and that grail knight
>>530779137Ah okay, thought perhaps it might have some bias to it or some hidden shit. Thanks. Used it today with my Beastmen campaign and it wasn't a good idea. Think I'll try it as Arbaal and see how everybody declaring war on you goes with him instead (should be better than Beastmen).
>>530779082>retreats through your frontline, breaking up cohesion>retreats through your missiles, disrupting their attacks as they engage in melee>rallies ontop of your artillery to attack it and destroy half the models before you can get something to make me fuck off
>>530779301>wasn't a good ideaBeastmen would be the best race to use the books as that aren't Khorne. They literally don't suffer from most of the penalties.
>>530779515It's more that you attract so much attention, most wars were not my doing and I didn't touch any of the factions, even factions that were continents/screens away would declare war and just player-bias hyper-focus me with full stacks. It was too much. Primarily because they'd just destroy all of your old herdstones. Not a huge deal as such but it was a bit too oppressive. Primarily because they just walk past other AI they're at war with, just to focus you.
>>530779215>based Swords of the Empire fan detected
Why haven't orcs invented guns or bombs or anything that goes boom in Warhammer? I feel like orc archers makes even less sense than them carrying looted guns
>>530780151One of the few precious few Fantasy BL books I liked, outside of Gotrek and Felix. Though admittedly that was in part because its one of the few examples we have of war between Bretonnia and the Empire.
>>530779082>highly trained elite missile units >enemy gets with 5m of them>entire unit drops their weapons and runs in to melee blob them
>>530780409Because this is Games Workshop and they decided they thought it was better not to. This aint Tolkien nigga, it runs of visuals and what people think is cool.
This is the answer to 99% of lore questions in Warhammer (and 40k for that matter)
>>530780553Greenskins with bombs and guns would be cooler than shitty bland archers tho
Suicide bombers would fit gobbos perfectly even
All of Cathay's enemies belong inside Miao Ying's stomach.
>ACH NO I'M AN ELF I'VE LIVED FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS PLEASE NOT LIKE THIS
*gulp*
>>530780790Orkz are meant for being in da thick of it, not being a ranged sissy!
>>530780790>Greenskins with bombs and guns would be cooler than shitty bland archers thoCringe, go back to 40k.
This gate is bugged i own it its broken and I literally cannot get my units to go I fucking hate sieges so much
>>530780857Well exactly, give orcs looted blunderbussy and gobbos bombs and make them all short range instead of archers
I do not want Boris if he doesn't come with a brand new pantheon mechanic for all Empire factions. If I don't have churches fighting for power and influence that affects unit performance then Boris will be entirely wasted.
>>530781017Ok but have you thought about the fact that those ladders are so much more enticing than a broken down gate?
>>530781189ladders are pretty cool ngl
>>530781017This has been a bug since the existence of this game and TCALUK just can't seem to fix it
>>530781019What I'd actually like would be something like Ironbreakers (but with 1 ammo) as they have some blunderbuss or cannon or some shit where they fire 1 shot and then it's melee only. Some shit how they loot the gun but don't know how to reload or I dunno. I'm not well-versed in Greenskin lore honestly. But a 1-shot/low ammo primarily melee unit might be cool.
>>530781017Why can't cannons destroy the whole gate structure so more units can pass by?
Skycutter and Merwyrms soon, fellow Asur!
>>530770995become a records enjoyer
>>530742041Who would be the legendary lord for halflings? Lumpin Croop? He is literally the only named halfling that I can think of that appeared in tabletop and actually leads troops.
>>530740853 (OP)i genuinely cannot believe that people memed in two literally who characters into the same dlc.
3 shit LLs + 3 of the most boring factions in the game this dlc is going to flop so hard
>>530782579Norsca is great and needed DLC badly. I think High Elves were a mistake though because the DLC is literally going to be Merwyrms, two variants of skycutters, and two paid variants of existing units. On the bright side at least Bretonnia, Vampire Coast, Dogs of War, and Dark Elves can all use merwyrms too so it will be a shared unit.
I have just wiped out tretch and queek along with most of the orcs and yet I do not feel secure at all
Most of the south has been burned by Khorne and I'm right next to the Chaos Dwarfs but idk, I'm dreading suddenly losing and my armies are kind of crapstacks with grudge units
I've gotten two max grudges but I don't feel like continuing with that and just building my regions up now
>>530782579See the same post regarding every DLC.
>>530782997ToD had Empire Dwarfs and Nurgle 3 super popular factions SoC had Kislev Tzeentch and Cathay and it flopped hard
>>530742614Have you actually tried playing them? Maybe they still hold up against older races, but Skarbrand alone will delete your entire campaign
>>530783083I wouldnt call Nurgle that popular before the dlc.
>>530745821Be gone, age-of-Smegma-tard
>>530774885>>530774885>inventor of the sky-junk>according to old world Cathay lore they had them during the reign of Magnus the PiousSo this guy's immortal or something?
>>530783232Maybe I was just lucky but playing Settra without even meme shit like TK Expanded I was able to get past Skarbrand pre-Omens because he would usually retard rage into Tomb Halberds and Skelly archers and die. What killed every Settra campaign I tried was the Dwarfs, either Malakai or Thorek. You will lose every single campaign they declare war on you early, but you'll also lose every single campaign they declare war on you late because in both cases they are almost tailor made to counter you. They don't care about chariots, your skellies, or your lords, and if a single Thunderbarge is on the field you will need every archer you have to kill it and it'll still have eviscerated your backline before the stack of Longbeards and Hammerers has even woken up. Also your monsters just get caught in their high mass blob and die to the Thunderers and Gunners able to easily aim at them above the heads of their manlet friends. It is the most miserable matchup I have ever played, not even WoC vs launch Wood Elves had given me as much trouble
>>530783783I wouldn't look into took much. The dead dragon they just reconned a few weeks saying Maio Ying killed her on accident despite the fact the dead dragon was suppose to be dead before any of her siblings were even born.
>>530783995Dwarfs are just complete bullshit power crept nonsense
>>530744467Lorewise or modelwise. Lorewise it's Morathi. She was the only female character that had a rule about how beautiful she was.
Oh, and Neferata had a seduction rule.
So I guess it's
1. Morathi
2. Neferata
3. Probably Ariel or Alarielle
Alive Khalida would be pretty high too.
Which race should I pick if I want to focus on the campaign strategy only?
>>530783519You're an idiot, you just don't know it yet. Here, let me explain...
Everqueen is a title of a High Elf Queen, the current one (in every edition of WHFB) is Alarielle. Who you're mistaking it with is Ariel, who is a Wood Elf Queen.
With so much "leaks" and rumours around it seems like at the very least everyone seems to be agreeing that at the very end of the game's life, there will be an End Times DLC.
>>530785492There are a handful of good answers for something as broad as "campaign strategy", but I'd recommend Franz and/or Elspeth (Gelt and Volkmar not so much).
>>530785840And I bet that shit is $40 for the final milking too
>>530785492Dwarves because you can just autoresolve everything with the right mix of units.
>>530785840>end times kino>then 40kino>histosoi never everfantachads literally stay winning for the next 5 years
>>530786942>40cuck delusionsyyyyiiiilkkeeeesss
>>530786989>that one guy who keeps pretending he thinks 40k isnt coming so that people will make fun of him when it comes out
>>530742041we had an earlier reddit post confirming it was High Elves unless this dude has this much power, I don''t picture people being more invested in knife ears than VC
queek because you're a faggot
>>530788219damn i saw each of these posts separately on 4chan and didn't put it all together
>>530788325If Queek ran away from home like that he would be killed.
You do NOT understand Queek beyond his surface homosexuality.
Is it just me or is playing Khorne in the old world actually annoying af?
I just had to mow through an entire stack of outriders.. there is artillery everywhere, the fucking mortis engines, everything is ranged, kislev is just 19 archers every time...
It's.. really annoying.
>>530788219>Giant child molester cult banner on the wall because it's her entire identity nowN'Kari I suppose, though he might be offended at being the LL of faggot cat ladies.
>>530789074>randomly just change everything just because>not even excessive changes, go for the most basic bitch options possible so long as they're "new"It's more Tzeentchian than Slaaneshi desu.
>>530785213Hellebron was canonically more beautiful than Morathi, who malded as soon as she first met her.
>>530788219>filming yourself crying on multiple occasions to share on social medianarcissistic womanchild
>>530789258>The changes don't even genuinely improve your life and Tzeentch laughes at you in the backgroundYou're right. Changeling then.
Don't u love when things work out perfectly.. I don't wanna chase Elspeth's 19 outrider. I'm gonna camp her reinforcement point. Eat a dick bitch
Why didn't anyone tell me about Turin's streams being this funny? His rants about life in the US are more entertaining than playing the game itself.
What stacks can take on absolutely anything? Like if you park it at let the enemy bring all their armies on you and you still get an easy win despite AR scoring it as an overwhelmingly decisively decisive defeat?
>>530779215Now just imagine how humiliating it would be for an elf to be defeated by one of these
>>530747558What? Warrior priest, and Lector.
>>530791386Ghorst's 19 zombies I'd say is unbeatable by the AI. Can't think of anything more busted.
>>530770423Things not mentioned: gorillions earned through TWWH1-3 DLC sales.
>>530791386Imrik with his special dragons
Thunderbarges
Ghorst Zombies
Fully researched and buffed aspiring champions
Blunderbuss Chorfs
Gelt wizard stack
>>530787182just 2 more weeks
>>530782579>Wow, people with different tastes exist???Unironic autism.
>>530780424I always preferred Schwarzhelm. He just seemed like the better general, imo. Kurt's a baller but he's nowhere near the battlefield commander Ludwig is.
>>530742781Here is a version without the War Comm logo anon might be lower res, however
>>530780524>just before this>ranged unit fires a volley>no projectiles go out to damage incoming unit
>>530742041He mightโve been correct, but even if heโs right about Neferata Solo Pack, DoW DLC and Southern Realms DLC, CA can scrap/reimagine them at any time (as demonstrated with Tides), so I wouldnโt necessarily get my hopes up they stick to this plan.
>>530779082>My infantry decides to rout through enemy mainline>They melt in five seconds flat>Enemy infantry decides to rout through my mainline>They walk through unharmed despite orders to attack them, it wouldnt be polite to hit routing enemies :)
>>530775420Suthara Bek Kek
>>530793682>an unexpected but logical alliance
>>530791705>Fully researched and buffed aspiring championsIt doesn't matter which WoC LL for this right? IIRC none specifically have boosts to aspirings.
>>530793621>AI orders a run to charge at a unit in my rear rank through my front rank>they run through flawlessly and kill half my rear rank unit>I do the same thing>half my calv gets killed>routs because it's in melee surrounded by enemy units
>>530793856I want to say Archaon had something that buffed them, but I may be entirely wrong. Perhaps it was something I remembered from the gift system.
>>530791669Chuds dont play the game you see
>>530745293>Und*ad whore>Top of the list Rotting hands typed this post
>>530793978I have never seen a cav unit charge through a melee line.
Were you trying to defend a rot knights charge with skavenslaves?
>>530793856The undivided ones (Archaon, Belakor, Kholek, Sigvald(technically)) give the largest boosts overall once you've finished their research tree, but none of them boost Aspies specifically, no.
What are some semen units for helf that isn't the seaguard? Those stupid flying chariots doesn't seem very fitting for a naval theme
>Grimgor declares war on me
>(neutral to me) Tamurkhan proceeds to heavily push Grimgor's shit in
>turns and turns later of not even coming near me, asks for peace while still being strength #1
Greenskinbros?
>>530794687Alarielle and sisters
>>530784038Yeah but that lore also said the Moon Empress mindwiped everyone about the details, maybe even Yuan Bo doesn't know how she really died.
Its over Settra, I have the high ground!
I had a list of planned army compositions categorized by lord for my Kislev campaign but I lost it. I think I posted it on /twg/ last year, anyone can direct me to an archive website that has /vg/ posts saved?
Tzarina Flattarin. Kislev.
>>530795650lord, spellcaster, 2-3 melee heroes to hold the line, missile and arty to fill out the rest
no need to thank me
>>530742041>Legend was right about 4Cathay DLCHe can't stop winning
I've been calling November release for months now. Apologize.
>>530795963>kyslev plays the same as empirebravo ca
I have over 1800 porn tabs open
Legendary Lord for this feel?
>>530796442Lokhir Fellheart
Just got really angry and put my foot through a glass coffee table legendary lords for this feel?
>>530796382everyone who isnt a CA shill or retard knew this DLC would be delayed because:
>they pivoted>it was being made by CA Sophia, who only made dogshit shovelware like Pharaoh>they are focusing all resources on TW 40K
>>530747728It's not like Elspeth's going to ride that dragon naked.
>>530794601Happens sometimes in mods for Medieval 2 especially. Certain, "bonus to cavalry," units turn out not to be that reliable of a spear wall for a number of reasons.
All dev video blogs so far have been released on a Friday... just saying.
>>530797104They already accidentally leaked the store page for High Elves 10 minutes ago. Bit underwhelming desu
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/712100/view/2531535100081549529?l=english
>>530797270I am not going to click that link but I imagine it is either Thrones of Britannia or Grim and Grave.
>>530796829>that full pic>that x-ray/insides pic>that text about TamurkhanI don't even want to know, do I.
>>530794601It happens quite often with new AI in Warhammer 3. Not in every fight, but when AI feels like it they WILL push their unit through your without issues. Dogs are the worst offenders, efficiently passing through even braced infantry as if it wasnt there.
Source: Warhounds piercing my braced 7-unit deep line of Jade Warriors in about 0.3 microseconds and taking barely any damage in the process
A threesome DLC takes CA Sofia 9 months to make so that means a single lord DLC should only require 3 months to develop.
4 DLC per year sounds pretty good to me.
>>530797452The number in the filename gives it away. Rather old.
>single lord packs mentioned
Gharkbros... We're still in this!
>>530797850>Glup Shitto tier lord DLCJust kill this fucking game already
we already have single lord DLC in the game
they just release 3 at a time, this way they could release 1 at a time
its a nothingburger
>>530798195That pic is obviously cropped, anon. "Full pic" = non-cropped/original.
>>530796442>Lord for this feelJesus.
>>530798221Yeah but CA is autistic about releasing 3 at once for some strange reason
/twg/ used to think we only had 3 DLC left...
Now it seems that we could have about 10 DLC left.
>>530797714This is what opening the corruption mod wormhole does, first it's Slaanesh, then Nurgle...
>>530791386Dwarf lord (can be any but a Daemon Slayer works well)
Hero stack of Dragon Slayers, Thanes, a few Runesmiths and one Engineer for smoke grenade.
All of them equipped with oathgold items, of which all of the enchanted items is the Iron Warden Tankard.
Go wreck any enemy with only 20 angry dwarfs.
Archaeon the Everckochen
Big Ckaos COCK
>>530798261Yes but what about the other two question marks? You only answered one.
Why can't Franz marry Katarin
one wife at home, one wife abroad... it's diplomacy, baby
>>530799852Archaon is a cute girl though
>>530743115Because they've been too busy complaining about Drumpf and Toris to do their jobs. Crunch, my ass: they aren't putting these game devs to enough work.
The End Times are coming and you are delusional if you think otherwise.
>>530740853 (OP)The High Elves have no units left... It is impossible for the 3rd race to be the Asur.
No amount of coping will stop the 3rd race from being Cathay, Dark Elves or the Vampire Counts.
Aislinn doesn't even have a model, it can't be him.
Nobody wants the High Elves...
"Oh yeah, and the 3rd race is the High Elves, led by Sea Lord Aislinn".
i can't wait for the southern realms/halflings/amazons/albion dlc, that's gonna be amazing
>>530800581Cute girls can have big cocks too.
>>530801008I hoped for HElves simply because that increased the chances of Bloodlines DLC
Just got a hammer and smashed a bunch of nails into my penis any legendary lords for this feel??
>>530801101No they dont and if they could it would be gay
>>530801240Why are you back?
>>530801008i'm still mad it's not Caradryan, but anyway, they have units left, Lothern Sea Helm hero, Anointed of Asuryan hero, Skycutter of Lothern, Sea Lord, Lothern Sea Rangers, Ships Company, and some variants of the units and units already in game
i can see why they chose Aislinn, a lot of the remaining units are sea related
i'm happy about the DoW dlc with minor factions like halflings and albion tho, so i won't speak bad about CA for now
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pyrrhic victory according to autoresolve
>>530801426damn, that helena le jungleur looks fine as hell
>>530801530She twerked above the battle on her griffon hoping to get that BNC
>>530801363Paint them green and you're ready to play Throt.
Why are the quest battles given so early? Some of them are horribly overtuned for that level
Empire needs
Swordsmen (Armored)
Swordsmen (Skilled)
and of course
Swordsmen (Knights)
Neferata got confirmed and nobody really cared.
>>530801008Only reason I want it to be helves is because Tyrion and Teclis will be fixed in the process. Besides that I donโt understand why anyone wants it to be helves. Especially since they still hold up
>>530802074It won't matter until we see the art/model
>>530802032Yes but they are meant to be replaceable
>>530802074I care, but they've confirmed Neferata 3 fucking times now. It doesn't impress me.
>>530802128Well yeah but I mean, if some Tier 5 Calvarymani charges into them from the front, they're going to hold on long enough to be reinforced, right?
>>2025>>still the Tome of Fates when starting up TWH3Thank fuck for all these cinematics the team has been putting out we couldn't possibly let those play out when starting the game.
>>530802442Long enough for your guns and artillery to kill them.
They are good enough against melee but will absolutely melt to missiles with their low armor
>>530801890I wonder what the worst quest battle in the game is.
>>530802074Did she? All I read was a flc legendary hero which is going to be Genevieve
>>530802002That's not nearly enough to complete the full Empire experience.
>>530802742Nakai and Gor Rok is one of them for sure. But there are worse ones I bet.
>>530802803>Stormca-NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>530802742I'm playing Katarin and her last quest is absolutely brutal, especially with early game shitstack
N'Kari and Daemonettes should be given shields. They are very vulnerable to missile fire as it is at the moment.
>>530803507Plus halberds and armour.
Is Wulfrik the only LL that can lock down other lords/heroes?
>>530803937Skulltaker can also stop other lords from moving.
>>530803937Zathan has the net.
Uh izveynietyeh menja, what the FUCK is this? This wasnt here a year ago when I put this campaign on pause!
>>530803937You mean in battle or the campaign? In battle, zhatan and markus have hard nets as abilities, grimgor has a heavy slow, skarbrand and skarsnik have rampages, any LL lore of slaanesh can rampage which is essentially lockdown.
Those are off the top of my head.
>>530804870Kislev got a major rework
How bad is using forest spirits in Alarielle's army?
I kind of want to do it
>>530804979>Kislev got a major reworkMaybe that guy talking about paradox bloat was on to something. I've been staring at the screen for 15 minutes now reading wtf this is, I could have beaten a game of warcraft 3 in this time.
>>530806268Maybe alongside the remake.
>>530806268Do japs even care about Warhammer?
>>530794687Maybe they'll bring in the flying sharks from Age of Sigmar.
>>530805283Getting forest spirit skills will lock you from getting sisters of avelorn skills and vice verca. And sisters are vastly superior to forest spirits
>>530806268Kihetai
Armstrong Guns
Republican Guard
>>530807002literally how did the samurai lose
>>530807467Gigachad US Marines (higher melee than samurai kek)
>biggest content patch ever
>get khuresh
>get ind
>and nippon
trvst the plan you fucking assholes CA ALWAYS delivers
New stats. Did they buff DE? Or is it just because they are the most played?
hi i was in a coma for the last 33 years
when did they say its high elves for the last dlc?
>>530808201Malekith revealed it to me in a dream. He said HE are so week they are unworthy of being DE rivals so he told CA to buff them.
>>530807630Spear (rifle + long knife) beat sword, simple as
>>530806268Only if I get to mow them down with massed handgun and hellblaster volleys
>No Finubar LL with prepping the Tyrionbvll campaign mechanic
Why does CA refuse to give HElfchads what they want?
>>530805297Also
>>Playing Katarin>>All my towns now give massive orthodoxy support and no ice court support because the churches were all converted to orthodoxy and nothing was converted to courthousesGreat ok so my ice elves army will never have their potential fully realised unless I start rebuilding my towns great bate mate
>complaining about Kislev rework
You know what, I do hope they focus on Dechala as much as they can during this delay.
Slaanesh is the least interesting Chaos god for me since the vassal mechanic does nothing for me and previously all sighs pointing to Dechala's mechanic just being able to issue more commands to vassals what with all the talk about her being more domineering than other Slaanesh Lords. so by all means use rlthis time to make something more interesting.
>>530809276Agreed they need to give her tits
>>530809276>Slaanesh is the least interesting Chaos god for me since the vassal mechanic does nothing for meGood, let them have their niches. Making every lord palatable for everyone makes them boring
>>530809276I'm just hoping they use this extra time to do things like open up southern cathay more or make really substantial reworks to the races
>>530805283Its different. Tree Kin hold forever and can be spaced farther apart than Spearmen so your ranged can keep shooting. I enjoyed having slightly different kind of armies than the same cookie cutter build as usual only with mildly better SoA. Tree spirits just fit Alarielle very well. But if you're the kind of person who HAS go use the strongest builds possible or else you're not having fun, its not for you.
>>530742041>helffags ruined the dlc and denied neferata her rightful placeThe dwarves should have finished the job
>>530740853 (OP)more like sea JOBBER, LMAO
this post was brought to you by Lohkir gang stay winning Druchii
>>530810579Everyone has their role to play, anon. Being a jobber is also needed.
Now that 40k is confirmed, what race are you playing first or waiting for their release?
do i stay or do i go for my gelt campaign?
So DoW is super duper confirmed right?
>>530811176space marinii faction #848291972647284
>>530811454I still have my doubts
all the bs this year makes me think CA are tired of supporting the game and wrapping up with end times DLC
they will recklessly attempt to create another IP again
>>530742041High Elves shaped Warhammer just like they shaped this world!
I love spearmanii
I love staunch lines of spears holding the line
I love poking enemy armies to death
I LOVE IT
>>530811176Adeptus Astartes Ultra
>>530811176the marines which appear cool but never do a single warcrime or no-no
>>530809012Go be a retarded faggot somewhere else please
>>530811454What would you have to do to make them not another Empire reskin?
Would you rather be a:
5'6'' Armoured Kossar
6'5'' Empire Halberdier
>>5308120625'5'' Armoured Dwarbeldier
>>530812062If you're 6'5'' in the Empire you're probably some Norscan chad who ended up there, so sign up as a bodyguard in Altdorf or Nuln and enjoy drowning in noble pussy.
>>530811454No but it would be based as fuck. I love DoW and I've always been hoping for more Tilea and Estalia focus.
>>530812383me to itโs one of the factions iโve been waiting for since launch
>>530811986give them nukes and a teleport mechanic
>>530807995Couple of very good DE players carrying all those wins. Let the season stew a bit and the individual contributions of the super good players will be washed out by the mass contributions of more average players so we'll see which factions are actually top.
>>530740853 (OP)Histsisters! We have been beaten by some indie developer!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocfbUrWwcr4
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>>530812749>makes game based on 18th century videos>not based on his ISIS videoscoward
https://youtu.be/gOhuNZ22lBw
this shit would have gone hard
>>530803507That's exactly how it should be. They have the speed to rapidly close the gap and if you let enemy ranged just shoot your slaani trannies unimpinged, then that's on you.
>>530813425wrong, every faction is supposed to be the same
>>530812062Empire.
They have way more amenities and government institutions and systems than Kislevites. QoL still won't be as good as current day, of course, but it's as close as it gets.
>endlessly complain about made-for-TWW3 Cathay and Kislev
>get excited for made-for-TWW3 Tilea/Estalia
You people confuse me
>>530811176I won't know that until they say what is making it into the initial release, but
>Sisters>Mechanicus>Tau>Orkz>Chaos Marines
>>530813819>my country MUST provide me with a fully functional welfare state or else I'm not joiningyou are too weak to follow the bear
kislev doesnt need you anyway
>>530814076Kislev does a lot of homo shit in the trenches and pretend they aren't fags
>>530813934Worst case scenario there's going to be some interesting stuff in a pile of shit, I'll still be able to lift things for my WFRP games.
But also no need for "chinese sensitivity team" if it's a european culture. Maybe they'll actually be able to do something with it.
>>530814076You go get 'em bearman.
I'll be cheering you on from here, in my nice Altdorf apartment, reading the complete Skarsnik Biography and wondering what will go well with my Ussingen cheese.
>>530796442u are nothing
i have 3,900
>>530814291Thanks for the reminder to go catch up on Oglaf.
>>530814291Ashigaruchads win again
How the fuck do I deal with Vlad playing as Elspeth? I just wiped out the starting greenskins near me and he immediately declares war on me and beelines toward me with 4 full stacks. Turn 14 and all I have is Elspeth's crap stack of spearmen and archers. Cant even afford more, my income is double digits.
Does Madison keep track of her menstrual cycle?
>>530815220That early he can only have one alright stack and three shitstacks of skelemanii and zombimanii. If you manage to ambush the first stack handling him should be doable.
>>530815762No I keep track of it for her. She's in her luteal phase right now.
>>530815220Siege him with all his armies inside walled city.
>>530815314Its not just him, Isabella and his Strigoi ghoul kings are wrecking right through my front line. He has lots of bats in his armies so its hard to keep the archer line firing
>>530815874Might work actually gonna have to load an earlier save and try it near some bridge.
>>530815220Get pistoliers and get the armory upgrade that gives them restock. They'll have more than enough ammo to put down the dangerous vampire units and are generally fast enough to outrun most of them.
>>530802742wurrzag and the exploding squigs
>>530816184appreciate it, please keep me informed on any updates
>>530815762Why would a man do that?
>>530815220>>530815762Should have played Shogun 2, BAKA
>>530815220>Turn 14 and all I have is Elspeth's crap stack of spearmen and archers.Why? Gardens of Morr should let you at least have some halberdiers and handgunners.
>>530816464Dont have level 2 armory yet
>>530818368First time Elspeth (Empire as well). I thought GoM were just for teleportation?
>>530818368>>530818915Never mind, built one. Knights of the black rose are a game changer if I can get them out early.
>>530791669I forgot about those guys and I'm still annoyed anyway since them and Volkmar are more focused on melee moshpitting
>>530791629>>530793003>Alberic grand-father fug this
Well, that could have gone better...
>>530783783He performed internal alchemy to extend his life (read: he drank a bunch of mercury)
>>530813934Kislev was THE most requested made up race pack in the community
The fact that GW managed to fuck it up by flanderizing it to death is another matter entirely
>>530813934>nu-Cathay: dragons, dragons, dragons>nu-Kislev: bears, bears, bearsWhat will be the nu-Tilea animal ?
>getting findommed by miao
>>530821415>What will be the nu-Tilea animal ?Dogs
>>530821424>pays then declares war the next turn
>>530821415>>530821928Cathay already gets stone lions and flying lions
Cathay also gets birds
I hope TK get ushabti with great weapons.
Imagine another Kislev DLC.
>>530802742archaon has some of the most difficult ones and they unlock in a weird order where the earlier ones are more difficult
bretonnia is also high up on insanely difficult early quest battles
nakai has a quest with a bunch of chaos knights very early on aswell
>>530812719Why are DE the most played army in TWW3 tho? Are they that popular or secretly super good in the right hands?
>>530802742I'm playing Orion right now, haven't played him since WH1, and I completely forgot about the quest battle that turns all the enemies into chaos spawn while playing it so I vote for that one
>>530815220>bro is struggling with one of the latest powercreep characters
>Single lord DLC's a possibility
Here's how it probably looks:
Neferata
Toddy
Thanquol
Monkey King
Ghark Ironskin
>>530823954Just Empire things.
>>530824061i now understand why the dlc keeps getting more and more retarded
Question about RoC. If I take a soul quickly can I still use the portals to go absolutely fuck up someone very far away? My two competitors for world power right now are daniel and nkari, but nkari is too far away.
>>530815220>How the fuck do I deal with Vlad playing with cheats?Canโt help you if youโre so bad
>>530823954Elspeth is still weighed down by the amazingly shit empire frontline even if she has good mechanics
Black knights delete empire spearmen and vampire spam dogs that fuck gunlines
Its a match up begging corner camping
>>530824058>Neferatapart of the flc with the red duke in 2026
>Monkey Kingpart of the champions of chaos style dlc for grand cathay with li dao, yin yin and shi hong
>>530824342>amazingly shit empire frontlineNot this episode again...
Just get the fucking techs and red skills
There's just way too many factions in this game that are completely unfun to fight.
>>530824342Yep Empire still needs Greatswords(Chosen of Sigmar) for their T1.
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>just cheat bro!
>>5308120625'6" means the Kislevite got the sissyslav genes instead of the orcslav genes, he's going to be passed around every tent in the Ecstatic Legion camp
How can you still play this game without VOC cheat?
>>530824342>>Black knights delete spearmenif you're bad, sure
>>530823954>>530824061>>530824450Did you read his post? Its so early in the campaign that he doesn't have techs, doesn't have armory or any broken shit yet. You're acting like Elspeth is like Skarbrand at level 1.
>>530825031>make a special garden building>instantly access to several units including mortars, halberds and knightsSo hard bro. Very struggling.
After all this changes is ROC still playable?
>>530825031Niggers fighting vlad with elspeth on turn 40
Balance in this game just feels sloppy across the board.
>>530825271I fight vlad on turn 6-10, I dont have this building yet lmao
Fuck off with your armchair retardation
>>530825284As playable as it ever was. The last few legendary lords don't even appear outside IE.
>>530824590>Fight one faction>Wow this is really obnoxious but once I get through them I'll have fun>Fight next faction>Wow this is really obnoxious but once I get through them I'll have fun>Repeat forever
>>530825465All factions are unfun to fight
That is the ultimate pill
This is why everyone go spearmanii bowmanii formations and just btfo whatever is coming at them while they stay still
Or get a complete unga bunga faction like khorne and just right click to shit
No one wants honest to god tactics because its all so bothersome
>>530824590Try changing your army compositions for certain enemies. Makes them slightly more fun to deal with
>>530825678>No one wants honest to god tacticsENTER MPCHADS
Speaking of, newest tourney:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZkIojheCXs
>>530825868pfft lmao
Too much work, are you retarded?
>>530825465You can fix a lot of factions by installing TT caps
>no more dragon spam>no more land ship spam>no more rogue idol spam>no more <half of the skaven roster> spamDoesn't fix things like lords and heroes being busted and spammed by AI, or campaign mechanics like the eshin clan stone, but it goes a long way to making the game more fun
>>530825031>>530825448Then he doesn't have anything insane either
>>530825678>honest to god tacticsSuch as?
>>530826173Which go back to the first point, early game empire melee infantry is abysmally bad and lose to zombies and you don't have access to artillery spam or the high grade ranged units, hence why its not a braindead matchup like niggers who take 100 turns to fight vlad assume
>>530823479Its a race against time. If you can rout most of them early on, youยดll face two or three Chaos Spawns at most. As long as you focus fire its not that tough, especially since even Glade Guard + Eternal Guard counter the unarmored Chaos Spawns pretty well.
>>530826395>and lose to zombiesNo they don't
>>530826384Checkerboard formation
>>530825465The player-empowering mechanics are often the only part that I dislike, and would prefer to play entirely without them.
>Skaven are fun to fight against, but 6 clanrat spams directly on top of your artillery isnt>Chaos Dwarves are fun to fight against but waiting a minute for the Dreadquake bombing isnt>Fighting Dark Elves is fun but losing 3 units at least to the 9 Ark bombardments isnt>Fighting Lizarfmen is challenging and fun but getting multiple AP dino packs summoned to the backlines isntFar too many factions have "magically spawns enemies from nowhere on top of your ranged" or "massive bombardment taking out units unless you intentionally wait to cheese it" spells which I simply do not like.
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>>530825678>>530825465>fatigueShould have just played Shogun 2 my boys. The Eternal Game.
>>530826395You boast that you beeline for Vlad, but then complain that you dont have the tools to beat him. Whatever could you do to solve this issue? Game must be broken.
>>530826554I don't get this.
What happens for me is that the ai, even when engaged with my front line, just leaks around the side like the ai is spam clicking attack on my ranged units.
>>530824342Empire is supposed to suck!!
>>530826384>split my army up into 4 different subarmies>pushy frontline army group 1 with a combined arms force takes a hill and brings some artillery to fire from above>sneaky skirmisher infantry force hides in the forest and attacks the flank>shock and awe cavalry with LL charges the bulk of the enemy heavy infantry and breaks them>light cavalry forces attack the enemy cavalry and stall them until skirmishers come and relieve them>also theres like a mage and he buffs every subarmy by necessityKino it's like I am the Napoopan Boonapanoob
>>530826883Im not even that anon you aborption, I beat vlad every time as elspeth, but im not pretending it its easy to beeline for vlad early game like you retards do
Empire players are whiny shitters because they make too many ranged units and are suprised when they can't block for them
>>530827025You'll take that back when they add Valten and Spearmen(shielded, unbreakable, magic attack, mortis effect)
>>530826760I enjoy that morale exists in this game.
In warhammer it feels like shock routs just don't happening unless you're stacking 10 cheesy card combos or fighting skavenslaves.
>>530827148So basically "use cavalry"?
I agree
>>530810571If itโs one thing we are united on, itโs the Elf hate, especially the high elves, fuck then especially so.
>>530827148Genuinely how could you make this actually viable gameplay.
>>530827310>In warhammer it feels like shock routs just don't happeningRouts happen all the time when playing at base unit stats. The problem arises when cuckpaign che- I mean """mechanics""" pump the leadership of all your units into the stratospehre.
>>530827310Be ready for even less routing in 40k
>>530825678Only faction I find unfun to fight is Skaven, sounds like you just don't like this game.
>>530827396Chorfs literally trade with the Druchii. They do fight the Asur, but that's typically over naval dominance.
>>530827519Even in MP units have pretty heavily inflated morale compared to the older games froggy. Skavenslaves are the only unit that feel like they have appropriately low morale for being a trash unit.
>>530825868I don't feel like campaign gives you the time or money to do that. Usually you just have to make do until you're in the mop up phase, then who cares.
>>530827396Hating elves is peak reddit.
>>530827674>40klmao how is this shit going to work? Are they going to try and make it napoleonic warfare like TW and then tell everyone this is always what 40k was? Or are they going to keep the scale of 40k and make a TW game that's just company of heroes?
Since a lot of anons here played RT, thoughts on Dark Heresy theme? Kino or Cringe?
https://youtu.be/GF_Bz_1xa00?si=XYrZTBFx2DTlmoT5
>>530827801You are right
I dont
Which is why I heavily mod it
>>530827485Units have near-sentient AI (actual AI, not LLM's) and understand what their roles are so that they behave basically the way they're supposed to.
Dark Reign had toggleable unit behaviors in fucking 1997 but we can't do that in our grand regimental battle simulator
>>530828173There is a huge ass misconception that 40k is modern warfare (thanks partially to games like Space Marine) when its more napoleonic
So yeah, more like FoTS
>>530827674That wouldnt bother me as much because i'd be playing guard and sitting in a gunline instead of being underwhelmed at cavalry charges.
>>530827148>legendary lord kills your frontline with a spell>tactics no longer work because your frontline isnt a legendary lord of your ownoh well maybe next time they wont put single entities and magic into the game
>>530828178This is the ultimate chaos theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0OklFq5P68&list=RDx0OklFq5P68&start_radio=1
>>530828336Genuinely bizarre claim.
>>530828336>There is a huge ass misconception that 40k is modern warfare (thanks partially to games like Space Marine) when its more napoleonicI think the conception comes from the tabletop where nearly all squads in 40K are like 5-20 models??
>>530828680Ever heard of the concept of abstraction?
The same reason why 30 models is called an "army"?
>>530828178Sounds pretty good, but funny how DH, based on an imperium only TTRPG has 2 xeno companions on the cover and rumored to have 1 more fem eldar companion, while RT which was based on the 40K TTRPG where you had official support for xeno characters, had 1 eldar on cover and another as a later game companion that most people probably killed, since he was a Drukek. Owlkek pushing xenos here and not in RT is weird. (Though we will probs get more xenos for RT in Season 2 since both DLCs give companions)
>>530828680Guess fantasy was modern warfare aswell because squads are limited to 10-20 models
What a shitty ass argument
>>530828874He can join the ack like all the other discord trannies then.
Sisters... /v/ is making fun of us again...
>>>/v/715166068
>>530828874>literal who sperging out about not being able to spend cashwhy people like this exist?
>>530828336Not really.
Its flanderized ww2 battles but with melee combat.
>>530828091Definitely not early game, but once you rack up some gold and experience, and you start occupying settlements at t3/4, it should only take you a couple of turns to build a suitable army. Especially if you make use of global recruitment or campaign mechanics
>>530828602>>530829112I play tabletop for 10 years now, and I don't give that much of a fuck if tertiaries like you can't grasp the concept of abstraction and why 40k is napoleonic, it is being developed at any rate
>limit to 10-20 models but without sci fi technology
Heroic fantasy army, a crack mercenary company that always gets the job done.
>limit to 10-20 army but everyone has both a gun and a melee weapon
i-it's an abstraction!
>>530828754Tabletop squad sizes are canonical though. What similarity do you even see? No formations, no skirmishing, modern squad structures, no cavalry, tanks everywhere.
>>530829085>/v/Do you also take offense to the ants angrily snapping their mandibles at you after you stepped on them?
>>530828874i can not imagine having a "job" that consists entirely of pumping out slop videos to the point that a few months delay on some dumb dlc puts it in jeopardy. get a real job
>>530827857The flayed skin of a druchii makes for the best drugs.
>>530828160reddit nigger elves tongue my petrifying anus
>>530829306I guess the maximum unit size in tww should have been 20 models then
>>53082838440k is less hero heavy.
But that's becoming less and less the case now.
>>530828754>>530828928Fantasy can scale up because it's just guys in rank and file, which is a perfect fit for Total War. The formation makes sense whether its 20 models or 120.
40K doesnt work like that. Are you going to have 120 space marines in a square? Or all spaced out in some absurd formation?
This all just seems like cope for the fact that we're probably about to have a Total War game where the unit size actually goes backwards and every single faction is Ogres tier unit size
>>530828874he should joing the #Pack
>>530827310In general units in Warhammer seem to have 10-20 more leadership than their historii counterparts. Essentially everything acts as couple tiers higher unit regarding leadership. In historii, even light cavalry breaks unbraced peasants instantly with a frontal charge. In WH, peasants hold a dozen seconds (or entirely) even against low-tier heavy cavalry. Only elite or monstrous cavalry breaks them right away in 100% of the cases. In historii games, average Swordsman grinding out against other Swordsmen will break before hitting 50% hp, in WH they can get as low as 25% before breaking. This is one of the reasons why cavalry feels so underwhelming in WH; if your Charges caused routs more reliably (and your cavalry could run down routers lmao), they would feel a lot better.
The mod that gives everyone Glorious Charge makes Cavalry feel so much better. Enemy Black Knights getting to your backline are an actual threat instead of "let the Quarreler tie it down while others shoot it to death kekeke". Your Empire Knights getting a charge on enemy Crossbowmen causes absolute havoc too. Cavalry becomes efficient tool for causing routes which a sensible tradeoff considering how much worse they are in sieges since WH doesnt support dismounting
>>530829443Yes? How is that even disputable?
SEM's dont stand out as much if everyone is a low unit count army.
>>530829492>40K doesnt work like that. Are you going to have 120 space marines in a squareYes, in a loose formation
I don't see the issue really, aspiring champions exist
>>530829492are you going to have 100 ogres in a square?
of course not ogres would never be in the game
>>530829492You speak as if it would be forbidden to have marines in a formation when in the tabletop they are in a formation and they have to respect coherency
>>530828874Classic Dawi behaviour. Absolutely malding.
>>530829464I tried to recall which factions have hero spam in 40k and I can only think of necrons, IG and nids.
Is there anyone else?
I dont think seargents count
>>530829610A Total War game where nearly every unit is aspiring champion size would obviously be dogshit though, since you would basically just be playing Company of Heroes at that point
>>530829636>I was only pretending to be retarded!
>>530829294A space marine squad is CANONICALLY 5-10 guys you retarded faggot.
>>530829991I still don't see your issue with marines in a formation, I gave aspiring champions as an example of units that shouldn't be in a formation, yet are.
Marines could be 500 strong unit and it would still not be an issue
Sounds to me you want to find issues
So how the fvark do i siege with factions that don't have artillery like Vcounts and Kangz
>>530830131Yeah and there has never been the case of multiple squads working together right?
Its called a general term like unit, not squad for a reason
Retarded faggot
Screech all you want, 40k is still being developed, and it will release, and it will be a success
Wasn't Star Wars the next TW according to basedboy Jason Schrier
>>530829954Most of them could have hero spam.
Guard don't really spam heros anymore platoons no longer exist and stuff like commissars have been shit forever.
>>530830134Have you played a Total War battle with 20 units set to the equivalent of loose formation? It doesnt work at all.
There's a reason that Total War games have never gone past late 1800s even though there are some very lucrative settings
This
>can't be done
Discussion we are having right now is exactly the same one had before fantasy.
Funny how history repeats itself
Whether it "can" be done or not doesn't matter, because it shouldn't be attempted in the first place. 40k fucking sucks.
>>530830291Oh yea bro when the guys designed 40k, put together all their squads and gave them little names I'm sure they were thinking "yea squad decimus is actually not squad decimus, its an entire battle company because every battle in this universe definitely involved millions of guys."
>>530830901Do you genuinely believe that adapting Fantasy to Total War and 40k to Total War is roughly the same level of change, or are you just shitposting?
>>530831318It is, anyway, since 40k is happening Idk what you fags screeching about
I'm sweaty as fuck so I'm playing liggers today
>>530831318You new to this series right?
Because if you weren't you would remember the discussions that were had back in the day and it sounds exactly like your heavy strawmanning
>it can't be done for the reasons I believe it can't be done!>oh but X wouldn't work either because I don't see it working
>>530831385Im not even denying its coming. Im just pointing out that it will either be irredeemable dogshit or so totally different from other Total War that money grubbing is the only reason its not just new IP
>>530831619I like Gor-Rok because he gets to RP the 'natives defending homeland' story.
>>530831619I physically canโt play liggers because theyโre getting updated in a month
Imagine if 40K devolves into Company of Heroes level scale just for 40k lole
>>530831627Yeah yeah whatever, I don't have to convince you, or elaborate mechanics that would be feasible to your eyes, CA will deliver a 40k and it will slap the total war brand on it and there is nothing you or I say that will change how the game works
>>530770995>fell for the Champion memeOh nonono
>>530831832I'm done with CA if that is what ends up happening
>>530831832Wouldnโt that make it a DoW game?
>>530831724The issue with Gor-Rok is that he have to face a lot of rats and god, rats are the cancer of the campaign
>>530831587>we are team bald
Who is worse, sotek or grudges?
>>530832232Does he? I imagine the worst Skrolk can do is hit you with an early plague
>>530831832>Imagine DoW style battles but with a TW style campaign map
Should I just go back to WH2 to play vamp counts? Feels like I'm not getting the classic vampire experience now that their unique lore has been nerfed into the ground.
>>530831626I just find it really bizarre that you cant see the difference between fantasy and 40k. Fantasy works in Total War because the setting is just fantasy 1600s, its really not that different from the history games. If CA made Total War WW2 that would be more of a shake up to the formula than fantasy, despite technically being a 'history'
>>530832542Mors usually dominates his area and comes knocking and you have to deal with a vermintide
>>530831587>winning means losing your hairIt's so over bros.
TIL that N'kari is actually voiced by a woman (real female)
Cold take: Underroad and other teleportations in the campaign are absolute cancerous and should not exist, or if they exist, they should be instantly ambushed by any local forces with 100% chance
>>530832831Why didn't he just use finasteride?
Commander Boreale, enemy forces on our perimeter
>>530832659>Mors >LustriaYou sure youโre not talking about Kroqgar?
>>53083264140k is more like fantasy than WW2, in WW2 people weren't carrying swords into battle.
>>530832641Im gonna give a real answer, without the usual 4chan veneer of cuntness.
Because anything in 40k can be scaled up, GW don't give a fuck if there is 500 marines running around as a block of units, because if you gonna follow the canonical lore, many shit in the tabletop should not happen either, character that are on opposite sides of the galaxy fighting together for example.
As such traditional unit cards can exist, if traditional unit cards can exist, and the tabletop is mostly a unit-per-unit game and not model-per-model game, it can be adapted into total war format.
>>530832935oh yeah, different ligger
>>530832919BATTLE BROTHERS!
>>530828173How is Dawn of War going to work?
Speaking of 40K, isn't this demon just straight up Kairos?
>>530833787Its a generic keeper of secrets model
>>530833787no it's a greater demon of Tzeench but he doesn't have two heads
>>530833787Kairos is also a 40k character
But that one is a generic lord of change
>>530833553In that case I agree. Fighting Mors in the mountains is pure cancer unless you team up with a fellow rat hater
>>530830462>40K comes out>4 factions at launch>Train Simulator levels of DLC>space battles is everyone disembarking onto an asteroid to fight>siege battles gone "no one liked them anyway">Realm of Souls type "narrative campaign" played against the clock>you might get the actual campaign in 6 months>buggier than Rome 2 launch somehow>after a year you find out all the funding is being diverted to a ยฃ200 million Hyenas open world game
>>530833619Given that the modern generation of devs made DoW3, it's not.
We should all just accept that no new games are going to work. It's a serene position and it kind of feels good to always be right without even trying.
>>530830208>don't have artillery>Kangzyou have several
>Vcountsyou click the gate with the biggest dudes you got or you simply fly your airforce in
I can't wait for Total Tactical-level Skirmish: Warhammer 40k (tm)!
Also known as DoW2 2
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>>530833619>How is Dawn of War going to work?By just directly copying the sizes from the tabletop and making a small scale squad based game. i.e. nothing like Total War
is the +5 magic capacity that kairos can get after battle permanent?
as in can I do that after every battle and keep stacking it, or does it go away?
>>530834658Click your army and look right of the portrait, above stances
>>530828178Is that a he-elf or she-elf on cover?
>zhatan has 2 settlements and 4 full armies on turn 26
doesnt quite seem fair
QUICK!
CHOOSE MY NEXT CAMPAIGN!
>>530830208>Vampire CountsGet couple Vargheists. Most ranged units on walls are unarmored so theyยดll eat them right up. I prefer this to the slow artillery cheese to be honest.
>KangsEarly sieges are tougher, but once you unlock your constructs just bruteforce through the gates while skelemanii take the walls.
>>530834012Rats make excellent laborers for the Legion of Azgorth.
why is aranessa an undead faction
>>530835698SFO Queek
sovlfvl stormvermin & clanrat based armies
>>530835457He, he's just a twink wizard
>>530836261because ca are incredibly lazy and incomptetent and couldn't be bothered to reskin more than 2 units
>>530836172THE ORC WITH THE SHINIEST HAT(it talks) CAMPAIGN IT IS THEN!
>>530828178Pretty ballsy of them putting the roman 1 on the cover art implying the game will be succesful enough to warrant a trilogy
>>530835645You picked VH/Legendary you literally asked for it
>>530835645I really don't like the BS recruiting cheats they gave AI recently.
I watched one army go from a generic lord on end turn to their LL with 17 units.
>>530837137it was only h/h though
>>530830675>have never gone past late 1800sYou better buckle up then
>40k will finally evolve the series enough for WWI to be real
Nice.
>But formations
Any unit can be in a formation
>But battle sizes
First game that will allow for smaller to grand scale battle
>But cover
Non-issue
>But everyone is shooting
Not everyone and skaven exist and you can literally make mostly shooting armies in fantasy already.
>>530838482any setting after the american civil war is unbelievably gay and you're quite possibly retarded for even suggesting it
>>530838482the retard spamming about how 40k could never work gave up months ago when it dawned on him that 40k TW was in development already
>>530838848>>530838482I don't want all that trans energy that 40kek brings
>>530838954>Trans out of nowhereObsessed
Am I high or are early lizardmen dinos garbage?
They're kind of tough but still get shot to death and don't kill anything so what's the point?
>>530839163yes they are shit
Stop just dragging out a line of [unit type]
Spread the fuck out
>>530838954Anon, fantasy's next DLC is literally tranny themed.
>>530834621That "remaster" is such shit, I wonder how bad Relic's financials are after CoH3 to do two of the Aspyr-tier releases at once. Just upscale the textures with AI, patch the game to be 64-bit, and remove black bars from cutscenes and charge $40 for what Petroglyph did for free with Empire At War. There's an endless conga line of this shit and people keep buying them to the extent actual remakes are dead
>>530811176Where exactly? Did you remember to take your pills?
>>530839163ferals will always melt if you don't support them with infantry
what the fuck am I supposed to do with teclis once I consolidate my initial province?
Bee-lining kairos is hard as fuck since the terrain is red and his starting army fucks.
So what? I fight liggers and wait for him to come for me?
>>530839069tbf to the anon above, 40k is infested with the most retarded left-wing fags in existance
>>530839535the 5 people who play modded DoW can't stops screaming about how 64bit mod support is a game changer
the announcement trailer is full of comments shitting on it
>>530839870That's just everything nowadays.
>>530839163Look at Bastiladonยดs stats dear anon. They have abysmal MA and WS. They arent intended to be T5 SEM. Their point is to be cheap tanks that you bust through the mainline to disrupt back ranks. Theyยดll struggle to hit anything with higher MD than archers. They are literally cheaper than unshielded Saurus Warriors and intended to be used as such: SEM chaff (which is very unique role by the way)
>>530839757No. Changing of the ways will fuck you hard and you canโt count on Oxyotl to bail you out. Take everything you got and destroy Kairos early. Heads up though, the rest of Teclisโ campaign is boring as shit. Play literally any other helf faction instead
>>530833787Very regular one headed lord of change3
>>530840145That might be cool if they didn't squish one archer every 10 seconds
Dogs and light cav are actually really fun for that job
I don't like high tier SEMs much either for that reason though
>>530839535Beyond UI scaling for modern resolutions the only thing that needed "fixing" was my personal gripe about unit collision making using vehicles and infantry at the same time a headache.
>>530826395>early game empire melee infantry is abysmally bad and lose to zombiesspearmanii (shields) have 42 melee defense. zombies only have 5 (five) melee attack. in comparison skeleton spearmanii cost the same as empire ones but have 6 less melee attack, 12 less melee defense, and 25 less leadership.
>but crypt ghoulscrypt ghouls get pooped on by empire knights, which I bet you don't even have even though you can recruit them by turn 3 even without any cheat buildings.
I haven't played this game since December. Why is this general still up? Mods, you have my permission to delete this general. I don't need it anymore.
>>530840568I get what youยดre saying and generally I agree. They are MP unit, like zombie chaff (when not as Ghorst): very effective for the cost, but since you have more fights than just this one you want best performance, not most budget-effective performance.
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>>530829294tabletop isn't anything like napoleonic warfare. it's a bunch of guys squatting in L shaped ruins shooting at each other while your terminatormanii mosh pit on the middle objective.
>>530801240You'll have my cum
Not directly, you can suck it out of your drunken bandmates pussy
>>530841278Jurassic something
You send out caravans for dinos which is a decent mechanic but then they're instant recruit like RoR so it just feels busted
>>530837006No that's inqusition logo, first 40K RPG from them was Rogue Trader so this is a 2
>>530840794Yeah and stuff like that they haven't touched, it and the remaster of Space Marine 1 are the most transparent rushed cashgrab "definitive edition" shit, with the Space Marine one being so bad they offered refunds
>>530828178An Ogrinn and a Catachan as party members? fuck yeah.
On the other hand, a niggress? the woke strikes again......
>>530841704Oh, it said Allos so I thought it wasnt that. I'm guessing its the Jiraloqs or whatever they are
>>530842884Yeah, Allosaurus is copyrighted by God
Does anyone else find the delay announcement super weird? I was expecting it with the radio silence and "SUMMER 2025" release not having a steam page in July but I really expected the long "We hold our games and releases to the utmost standards" etc. bit they use to hide incompetent development to be at least half a page, instead it's like a paragraph and the rest is upcoming changes. It feels like somebody accidentally posted the unrevised cliffnotes version
>>530843135I thought Satan copyrighted dinosaurs to fool people into thinking the world was created more than 12 days ago (God is all powerful but powerless to stop Satan)
>>530843448No, Satan only fucked with the carbon
>>530838482>40k will finally evolve the series enough for WWI to be realThe leaks showed they were literally making a WW1 game that was meant to be the technology bed for 40K. They couldnt get that to work and cancelled it so lmao @ however 40gay is gonna turn out
>>530843239It does feel strange. I thought at least they would reveal the third LL
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Did they buff this or do I just value speed and charge more now?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/veikLV0qa3Q?feature=share
Can't wait for memes this funny to be part of Total War
what does Karl FUCKING Franz bring to the table that other Empire LL's don't?
>>530844437He SUMMONs the ELECTOR COUNTS
>>530843239they had NOTHING to show and they needed something, anything, to not lose all of the goodwill, just most of it
and promises are not only free, but are effective to some degree
check the steam discussions, on one hand you have normal people go 'wtf man', on another you have people who TRULY believe that, if CA says 'it'll be great', then it will be great, and that they should delay it till the actual year of god 40000 if it means it'll be as good as omens (which wasnt that good, but at least it was functional)
given how the third faction announcement was also literally just a sentence, I think their budget is gone, sofia has no idea how to work the engine, and their management is too busy begging sega not to sell their assets and send them to other studios because they have no stable money earners in their current portfolio
What's the best chaos campaign and why is it Changeling
>>530844567>because they have no stable money earners in their current portfolioEntirely their own fault, too. They genuinely, unironically thought Hyenas was their big break. In CA's dream world, they were meant to be the Hyenas studio right now.
>>530844841changeling campaign has to be one of the worst campaigns in the entire game, if not the worse one ever.
>>530844437nothing - he doesn't have insane buffs to cheap all-rounder units and op books, he isn't doing some very anti-lore outdated safari to gain fame and riches, he isn't the most op magic caster with fantasy space marines buffed to hell, and he isn't the ACTUAL most op magic caster engaging in w(/g)maf
he is borderline an everyman taking on both imagineable and unimagineable horrors of reality and fantasy, with his sole goal being making the empire liveable and normal for his people, as is his duty as prince and emperor
>>530844867they're probably intentionally ruining total war to get back at sega for cancelling hyenas. and also to get back at the total war fans who by and large would not have played it. remember that these people who make those games fucking hate, hate, HATE you.
PoV: youโre the Total War franchise, bleeding out on the floor
>>530844867>HyenasThis is something I'll never understand. "Yeah lets make a hero shooter years after the big hype wave has gone and there's already multiple established big names, surely our first-attempt-in-genre will sell like hot cakes". Imagine someone trying to make contender to Coka Cola as their first entry to the market and assuming it'll sell well. Or if you hate food examples, imagine someone trying to make big budget Marvel contender; what else can it be but a flop? These people dont want "attempt at genre X", they want X. How is it possible that not a single one of the bean coubter marketing department drones said "wait man this is stupid, we're risking our entire company on something that has no chance of succeeding"? Isnt that what they are paid for?
Need Galaxia to be the next LL for Slaanesh
>>530845281they hate me but they don't hate the contents of my wallet
i'm absolutely sure that, like the other anon said, they were meant to be the hyenas studio - they wanted their own cheap to maintain live service forever game, a fortnite of their own, and bet EVERYTHING on it
now it's a fucking miracle they're still alive - because ultimately, they still have the good will of their community that they really need to learn to respect. People are willing to put up with their shit and incompetence if it means more total wars, because they have 0 competition in this market. But everything runs dry, and at this point they're at the stress limit and the house they live in is making weird noises. come on ca, score some fucking goals. Just make another medieval since you dont need to pay licensing fees and the engine can definitely handle it
>>530845559All of that, but in addition, you have a stranglehold monopoly on a vaguely niche but not even that niche genre that you threw away for the attempt
>>530845559it was an EXTRACTION hero shooter, the next big thing that will surely work, just look at marathon
>>530845559>How is it possible that not a single one of the bean coubter marketing department drones said "wait man this is stupid, we're risking our entire company on something that has no chance of succeeding"?They probably looked around at all the hero shooters and saw that there wasn't one which tried it's absolute hardest to be as woke as possible, and given that at that point in time the Western world was at the tippity top of the woke wave it probably made sense in their minds.
>>530842603Nah 40K always had multiracial humanity. Remember the inquisitor from Dawn of War 1?
>>530845538Iโll never understand what they were thinking. You would think a multimillion dollar company could afford to keep a stoned gamer in their basement that just keep tracks on the average gamer opinion. Literally anyone on /v/ could have told them that looter shooters are fucking dead and saved them a 100 million
>>530754349>>530752918Based dota and warhammer chads
>>530845753> Just make another medieval since you dont need to pay licensing fees and the engine can definitely handle itI do really think they are going to announce M3 and 40k at the end of the year. They've dicked around with slop like Pharaoh and Hyenas and they now realize they have to make games that their fanbase actually wants or else they are done for.
>>530845798That too, you're literally the Fifa of your genre and you decide to go "you know what? We'll make Fifa of Warcraft, that'll surely be a bomb" when WoW people want WoW, not Fifa. Thats why I'm so flabbergasted.
>>530845905There were dozens of Extraction shooter by the time they started development
>>530846321But its not what they (the suits (jews)) wanted to hear.
If its not โline go upโ itโll get you fired
>>530844420The memes will definitely be the best part
>>530846923"Golden goose? Fuck that, flay it for quick profits"
Surely the best possible economic system cant be this stupid?
ca just got really excited when they realized that warhammer made them millions and millions and millions of dollars so they ran to daddy sega and went: "see daddy? see what i can do? can i go to the store and get some candy pweeeaaaaaase???" and daddy sega went: "sigh, fine, go have your fun I guess you have earned it"
and then ca went to the store and pissed away 100 million dollars and the rest is history.
>>530846321the real problem was making such a generic trash. The gameplay was already as repetitive as live service shooter gets, but then you have the setting and characters that screams marvel snarky "he's behind me, isn't he?" humor and it all just falls flat. The character designs weren't even that bad honestly, but they clearly needed to work on the tone a whole lot more.
>>530846780real extraction shooter has never been tried
>>530847602>characters that screams marvel snarky "he's behind me, isn't he?" humorThat's just what millennials like
>>530847593>100Wasn't it more than that?
>>530847715nobody likes that shit anymore. It's been old news for a long time by now.
>>530847715It more that it's Josh Wheddon's style of humor then a bunch of people copied him.
>>530847893Yes, millennials are old and thought what they like would still land with the new people who play video games
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just posting this here to see how the outcome will compare
>>530848153Look on me and this pare
>>530847893every movie still has that shit retard-kun, people making fun of it on the internet doesn't mean it's dead
>>530846043DoW 1 WAS woke.
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>>530848153I still don't know what's up with autoresolve, I thought it overestimated ranged units
>>530848153>>530849214>9 melee infantry that could've been darkshards (shields)>2 flying units that couldve been darkshards (shields)what the fuck are you doing nigger?
>>530849214It overestimate armour more than anything.
>>530849382It's a cobbled together mostly public order army(ergo the RoR's added to quickly bolster it), I don't need a full darkshard shield backup stack yet
>>530845559>imagine someone trying to make big budget Marvel contender; what else can it be but a flop?haha yeah...
https://nerdbot.com/2021/05/24/demon-slayer-manga-outsells-entire-us-comics-industry/
>>530853657Let's see Paul Allen's movie
>>530834020>>siege battles gone "no one liked them anyway"This one's an improvement though.
