Thread 530799403

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>>530799403 (OP)
I'm going to fuck chariel

Krisriel <3

You may not scroll past this point until you post something about Spamton or Tenna’s organs.

>>530799491
>>530799537

Why did Toby decide to replace this animation with one less reminiscent of the scene from the Spider-Verse movie? Is it confirmation that Susie cannot become Spider-Man?

Would you pretend to enjoy Gaster's mixtape to avoid hurting his feelings?

>>530799537
Abusive relationships are so hot

I want to feed the gote eukaryote

>>530799668
There's nothing abusive about riding your big bro's cock after you drugged him

*AHEM*

>HE SHOWERS OUR SOULS WITH INCREDIBLE DEALS
>AND WITH HEARTY PEEPIS, OUR HEART HE SO STEALS
>NO FOOL WOULD BE GREATER
>THAN HE WHO DENIES
>THAT SPAMTON GIVE ME THE CHANCE TO EARN WILD PRIZE
>NOT A CIRCUS CLOWN, WHO'S MORE SICK THAN HE FUNNY
>A LOVEABLE SALESMAN, WHO GIVE ME FREE MONEY
>YOU MAY ASK, "WHO IS NEXT?"
>YOU MAY ASK, "WHO WILL BE?"
>"WHO WILL BE SECRET BOSS OF ADVERNTURE NO. 3?"
>ME DON'T KNOWS. AND ME DON'T CARES!
>ME ONLY CARES ABOUT SPAMTON
>THE REST CAN GO UP IN THE AIRS!!

Please pay $4.99 to continue the poem.

I drew this. for you. Enjoy.

>>530799668
Kris needs Asriel to fuck his teen boy hole so he can feel validated. It's necessary that he be considered attractive to monsters in order to overcome his species dysphoria

>>530799537
KRESS FOR GIRLS

>>530799635
The man didn't even try to save my Vessel
His feelings WILL be hurt

>>530799704
Gote probably doesn't know what that is
>>530799782
Cute

>>530799635
Only good mixtape gaster ever made was "Meat Factory" all the others like "Trouble Dingle" and "Happy Town" fell off hard. All my FRIENDs blast Meat factory while going 1225 mph down the highway.

>>530799782
I do (doe) declare (doeclare) that I will

Big mysteries:
>What did Tenna want with Purple Cliffs?
>Why is ICE'E getting 1984'd?
>Why is the new ICE'E logo filling you with dread?
>Is Katty on to what is happening (aka the Dark World) or is she just a wiccan talking bullshit?
>Who were the shadows in the dark before Gerson turned on the light?
>Who was the shadow in the Philosopher gallery leading us north?
>Why does the Girl sometimes have a soul?
>Why does Gerson feud with Ralsei if they both want to change the Prophecy?
>If Rasley ran off to try and break the final prophecy glass while we closed our eyes, what did he do other times?
>Can we be certain spooky phone noise is the Knight?
>What is behind the church door?

>>530799704
>eukaryote
What the frick is that?

which recruit changes the music of your castle town in chapter 3?

I did a non snowgrave partially violent route and the music didnt change, i recruited about half of chapter 2

>>530799782
CUTE!

>>530800061
>What did Tenna want with Purple Cliffs?
That's not a mystery, he was searching for Toriel, then ensured that she's balled and kept asleep.

>>530799887
>>530800098
Everyone point and laugh at these mfs who didn't pay attention in biology class

>>530800226
So is purple cliffs just the name for the entirety of inter-darkworld wastelands?

>>530800158
Having full recruits changes the music

>>530800231
weh

>>530800061
>Who were the shadows in the dark before Gerson turned on the light?
Titan Spawn

>>530800061
>Why does the Girl sometimes have a soul?
Foreshadowing that Ch6+7 we take control of Susie? I've always thought that since I first saw it.
>Can we be certain spooky phone noise is the Knight?
Not sure, I always thought it was a way so show the player that Dark Worlds are truly isolated from the real world, and there was no easy way out.
>What is behind the church door?
The Knight, I've realized that this HAS to be the answer, especially knowing that Kris is working with the Knight.
>What did Tenna want with Purple Cliffs?
Working on something now...

>>530800158
I assume it's based on the number of recruits at the start of the chapter

Anyone else felt legit sad for toys and other crap in your basement after Tenna?

>>530800354
...Or maybe Susie just eats us. The rest of the game is just one giant non-interactive cutscene.

>>530800397
I've already accepted that opening a dark world in my home would result in every Darkner trying to kill me

>>530800354
If Knight is behind the door, could we assert its likely that Asgore is the Knight knowing he 1) visits church at night and 2) we similarly don't open the toilet door in the mansion?

>>530800231
That's like saying you want feed him food. Be more specific nigga

>>530800397
I do not feel sad for my virus ridden HP laptop somewhere in my attic

I love fish

>>530799782
I can't for our date tomorrow in a year

>>530800549
M O S S

k here's my ralsei nsfw. if you are in arizona you have to report yourself to the police after opening this

>>530800507
My rooms Darkworld would just be painted warhammer minis and paint bottles trying to defend me against the vengeful hordes from the pile of shame

>>530800061
>What did Tenna want with Purple Cliffs?
>* ... located... in the purple cliffs? Perfect! Don't waste any time.
>* You know what comes next. Assembly, air holes, soft, soothing music...
They were looking for Toriel and putting her into the ball

>Is Katty on to what is happening (aka the Dark World) or is she just a wiccan talking bullshit?
Catti, Catty is the purple one
Also she's probably not onto it at all, since she's asking Kris to look out for Noelle when they're probably the single biggest danger to her, conversely Jockington prophesizes that Kris will have to "be that dunk" to defeat the Titan

>Who were the shadows in the dark before Gerson turned on the light?
Titan Spawn

>Who was the shadow in the Philosopher gallery leading us north?
I don't remember there being a shadow leading us north, remind me

>If Rasley ran off to try and break the final prophecy glass while we closed our eyes, what did he do other times?
You mean in the other chapters? Seems like he wants to talk to Kris in private, likely related to why he defers to Kris so much in general

>Can we be certain spooky phone noise is the Knight?
Nothing's certain until we see the truth for ourselves but the Knight seems like a reasonable explanation, it could also be Carol but this has some issues (the phone turning itself on at the end of chapter 4 versus Carol making a normal phone call that Kris has to answer)

>What is behind the church door?
It's either the Knight or it's Asgore, who was also behind another door Kris refuses to open earlier in the chapter and goes to the church at night

>>530800507
>every Darkner trying to kill me
That's normal. There haven't been any Dark Worlds that does not do that by default

>>530800690
Butte! *grabs his cheeks like this*

Isn't Gaster a perfect fit for this prophecy?
Who would want to be banished from heaven if not Lucifer itself?
Meet with its desire works only in a meta way for the player, for Noelle it doesn't seem to make sense.

>>530800557
Would make for a kino chapter boss

>>530799932
I don't know, (we) could be the angel and if timeloop theory is real, than banishing the angel(us) would be severing our tie to the world fully and "finally meet with it's desire" is a world we have full control over(undertale) and that bleeds into the sans is from deltarune theory. If sans is originally from deltarune and moved to undertale than the banishing was him moving us.
Yes this is a late night only schizo theory.

>>530800397
Everything about him made me insanely depressed about my family giving away our old TV that’s been with us since I was born.

give me more kris vessel yaoi im famished

>>530799782
cute! keep it up bwo

>>530800507
the socket i plug my computer into would probably want me flayed alive or do other unspeakable things

Chapter 5 will be 7 dark fountains made during the festival, creating a "megafountain". One for each flower, and each flower will be a darkner miniboss.
Purple flower will be in the Town Hall which will become a courtroom Phoenix Wright style minigame. Could also be Police office.
Cyan flower will be in the Holiday house and become an ice world.
Orange flower will be in ICE-E's pizza/QC diner, a firey hell dark world.
Blue flower (foreshadowed by Miss Mizzle) will be in charge of Sans's store/Papyrus's house dark world, secret boss will be fought here and use the blue soul.
Yellow flower will be Flower King, jungle/forest world.
Green flower will be hospital, Rudy plot happens here.
Gold flower will be town plaza where Asgore fight + actual villain + Roaring happens.
All these dark worlds will be much much shorter than the regular dark worlds but they'll all connect together and most of the townspeople will get involved including Catti and Jockington.

>>530800727
>I don't remember there being a shadow leading us north, remind me
Think this was for one of the golden notes. It was a dark room full of philosopher statues and something was making noise, told to look north and disappeared if we looked back later

Sans DR is not Sans UT. The games will not be tied together. Sans was not "trying to go back" to the world of Deltarune. You are all schizophrenic.

>>530800397
Not really, no. But the Going Merry's funeral from One Piece made me develop a legitimate emotional attachment to an old lawn mower that still started every time despite being really broken down, I refused to get rid of it until it stopped working completely and even then I felt fucking horrible about it

=)

I think this is what anon was referring to last thread. I think he did a bit of an overcount.

>>530800975
I dunno seems like a huge stretch, I feel like the dark worlds have become less relevant with these new chapters.

>>530800975
Multiple Dark Worlds per chapter makes sense but 7 at once would make each maybe 3 rooms long tops

>>530800231
I was too busy being a cool kid to be paying attention

>>530801094
I don't get it. Is this about Furry porn?

>>530800690
Cute, I love it !

>>530801175
Maybe toby should stop being such a hack

=)

>>530801082
Spamton NEO was him hijacking Mettaton's MS Paint scribble so where did Tenna get this number from

>>530801048
what a kissable flower

Touch the doe

>>530801429
Human... I remember you're fat ass and big titties.

>>530801453
Make somebody in Hometown a fan of power rangers or something.

good morning i love tenna

Anyone got that comic of Noelle and Susie riding the ferris wheel at the festival, and Noelle finally gathers courage and kisses Susie by surprise, then both of them are just disappointed and think "I wish Kris was here"?

>>530800975
>most of the townspeople will get involved including Catti and Jockington.
It was believable up until this point

>>530800098
It means "single-cell organism".

Anyone got that image of the realistic ralsei doing the stop hand gesture? please

Will we ever get a credible "leak" from Toby
I feel like if something did somehow leak Toby would be autistic enough to change the story
Either that or he does a fake leak on purpose to throw people off

>>530801505
>Touching Noelle where she likes it!

The ARG was previews for chapters 3-5
The ARG has mentions and appearances for Berdly, Jockington and Catti
Those three characters were not that relevant for chapters 3 and 4
Ergo, they will be relevant in chapter 5

>>530801798
not really

>>530801870
The song titles for chapters 3+4 were leaked before the game came out if that counts
He's been working on the game for like 20 years now and it's his mega passion project so I don't think he's going to change anything over a leak or because people figured out where the plot was going

tenna chest?

>It's Friday already
Does /utg/ have any weekend plans?

>>530802127
yes please. there's not enough art of tenna with shirt open + tie hanging loosely around his neck

>>530801798
BRUUUH!

It's an organism consisting of a single cell or multiple cells. That has nothing to do with it...
Eukaryote are organisms that consist of cell(s) in which the genetic material is DNA in the form of chromosomes contained within a distinct nucleus.

>>530800975
Nah, but multiple dark worlds in chapter 5 sounds legit.

>>530802221
work my ass off on personal projects

since this thread is kriselle-themed.
let me put this banger here
>https://youtu.be/-drXtC53Kwc?list=RD-drXtC53Kwc

>>530802221
i'll be working all weekend

Ralsei is a prokaryotic being!
That explains everything!

>>530802350
Noelle is our player 2

Noelle will watch from the chair

I posted this here because I really like the detail in Queen's robotic design and Noelle's gorgeous snout.

>>530801965
I believe it honestly, but I don’t think we’re getting any more party members unless chapter 5 ends up being fucking huge somehow.

>>530802350
>since this thread is kriselle-themed
It is?

>>530802670
my theory is that our actions have altered the prophecy.
the GIRL is now noelle.
she carries our soul and will fight the titan as the last survivor instead of susie.

One of my most disliked tropes is boy with crush on older girl. Always plays out terribly

>>530802771
I think there's a chance we might get to play as some other characters for a boss fight or whatever but full-on party members are a no-go unless Kris gets replaced by Vessel or something

>>530802221
I'm gonna clean my apartment and also this
>>530802339

>>530802886
Kris and Dess...

>>530802350
the fact that Noelle is THE only character without any sort of shipbait with Kris in the normal route means Toby intended for us to go though the weird route to see "Noelle's route"

>>530802886
Well, Kris became a reclusive schizoid and Dess became a freaky Knight so it's literally playing out terribly.

Kris's cock belongs to sloppy Dess pussy

>>530803239
Kris cock belongs to brotherly goat hole (and vice versa)

>>530802339
>>530803026
What kind of projects are you two working on?
>>530802409
That's unfortunate, I hope it's not overtime

>every dark world is just an allegory for Kris's trauma
>Susie and Ralsei only exist to play therapist for Kris
Holy shit...

>>530803384
>That's unfortunate, I hope it's not overtime
It is unfortunately. Going to keep my spirits up with thoughts of my tv husband.

>>530803719
Not true
The Second Sanctuary is an allegory for Susie's trauma of the people she trusts turning against her

>>530802791
>It is?
I guess it is now. I want to REEK like this doe!

>>530803117
>thread ungays itself
>still fighting over ships
man, can we be friends once?

>>530800837
The problem with that is how toby would blend narrative and metanarrative. If (we) are the angel and the prophecy talks about us, do we have a canon personality outside of our choices?
This would make the red heart a character and not really us.
Idk it would feel strange after Gaster talks directly with us.

>>530802886
Asriel?

>>530800837
doesn't the chapter 1 dialogue option when talking to sans "great to see you again" imply that we already went through undertale?

>>530799537
*Diapsriel

I LOVE TV I LOVE VOCALOID I LOVE TV I LOVE VOCALOID I LOVE TV I LOVE VOCALOID

I WILL NEVER ABONDON YOU AND YOUR DAUGHTER TENNA

Okay I think the damn FOMO is getting to me. I played the free demo and really liked it but wasn’t sure about bothering with the new chapters since I feel that the narrative is still in unsatisfying spot. I think I’m worried about having this game taking up more of my time and mind because I don’t have much else going on for me ATM and have a hunch Ill get more fixated on it.
Sorry for the blabbering, just needed to get these thoughts out.

>>530802918
I want a segment that's a series of fights where Kris teams up with a different character for each one, like the You're Not Alone bit from FF9

>>530801505
do it noe

Kris
Susie
Ralsei
Noelle
Berdly
Catti
Jockington
Asriel
Dess

My heroes.

>>530801598
no one?

>>530804430
I think 3 and 4 left the game off at a much better spot to wait for a continuation than 1 and 2 did, but the fear of getting fixated is a valid reason to keep away for now because I've been here for 10 years

>>530804558
This but with the names in japanese.

>>530804558
They are quite literally the most mentioned and represented lighteners in Deltarune.

since noelle is supposed to be this big player in the prophecy is there a reason for ralsei not giving a shit about her at all? or at least giving her the same amount of attention as every lightner that aren't kris and susie.
presumably everyone is named in the prophecy. ralsei knows who kris and susie are instantly and jockington is named. its "down to the letter" more or less, right?
you'd think some prophecy obsessed guy like ralsei would be all over noelle. in fact its pretty odd that hes not at all bewildered by susie tagging along from chapter two onwards. if susie is supposed to be the dragon that gets defeated in chapter one and thats it.
i still think the popular narrative around this is probably correct but these things strike me as odd

>>530804727
Ralsei hates gays

>>530802818
noelle is clearly the angel

>>530804727
The Shadow Crystal showing a world where Susie is glaring at you and Noelle is whispering to your ear plus whatever is going on with Northernlight in chapter 2 makes me think that Ralsei either doesn't know as much as he thinks he does (mind formed to fit whatever the variables are instead of what they should be or something?) or he knows much more than we think he does (whatever he's talking about with Kris, who's working with the Knight but presumably not trying to destroy the world)

>>530804964
>yet another level of self-hatred
that boy needs to see a therapist

>>530804972
there is a lot of wonky bits about the prophecy.
i went over it a zillion times.
even translated it.
but the titulation of the angel is up in the air.
noelle does make a lot of sense due to her angelic appearance in the dark world.

what we also know is that a lof of the prophecy is missing, not just the last piece.
because everything is supposed to rhyme.

and at least half of it just doesn't.
so we can try to re-assemble piece of it in hopes that they would rhyme together or they are in the correct order but the pieces are totally missing in their entirety.

>>530805375
The prophecy is out of order when we see it. And obviously we aren't seeing all of it. If you look at the order it's displayed in the testing rooms, the cage is mentioned last, as opposed to being the "first" hero

>the whole propechy is just another Toby Toblerone anagram bait
>"haha all the letters were out of order :^ )"

>>530802886
Wendy from Gravity Falls gave you PTSD?

>>530805473
glad we agree.

issue being the chronology of these events.

>THE KNIGHT WHICH MAKES
>WITH BLACKENED KNIFE.
>SHALL DUEL WITH HEROES
>STRIFE BY STRIFE.
this can literally describe a timespan from ch3's end to ch4 to some future event that actually concludes the fight.

unlike

>THE LORD OF SCREENS
>CLEAVED RED BY BLADE.

a much more concise thing we can conclude being tenna's would-be assassination by the end of ch3.

>>530805815
Hardly anyone mentions the whole fact that Kris already changed the prophecy by slashing Toriel's tires, too. "The Queen's chariot cannot be stopped" and yet it was

>>530805663
Rape them both, Kris.

>>530804727
Ralsei isn't interested in the prophecy for the sake of the prophecy, he wants to save the world and have a happy ending. Noelle's presence is possibly counterproductive to one or both of those goals, if theories about her role in the prophecy and the future of the weird route turn out to be true.

>>530805663
>*BRO, KRIS BUDDY WE EITHER NEED TO RUN OR YOU NEED TO LET ME PULP BOTH OF THESE PEOPLE INTO SPAGETTIE SAUCE!
>*PLEASE KRIS JUST RUN OR KILL THEM BOTH PLEASE!

I estimate Kris's cock between 12 to 16 inches

The reason Dess got away with molesting Kris for so long was because Toriel was in on it.

>>530802818
The girl is Noelle.
The prophecy is "LOVE finds its way to the girl"
The normal route is subverting the prophecy.
The weird route is making sure it happens.

Are (You) making Gaster proud? Have (You) let your power shine through and collected all the Shadow Crystals on multiple save files? Have (You) uncovered every secret and turned every stone in his DELTARUNE?

>>530805949
oh fuck that is actually genius.
motherfucker, i glossed over the fact that toriel wears a crown in the dark world.

>chess theory is right
>king
asgore and spadeking
>queen
queen and toriel
>bishop
gerson... ?
>rook
tenna
>pawn
(You)

someday we might be able to complete the list.

>>530806197
It's because it's not only morally ok, but morally obligatory for older girls and women to turn younger boys into men.

I estimate Kris' cock to be of the Rhode Island Red breed.

>>530803239
It’s true.

>>530805375
>noelle does make a lot of sense due to her angelic appearance in the dark world.
and her angel wings in the light world

Is there a point in collecting Chapter 4 egg if you missed all others?

>>530799623
He knew everyone would know the prophecy’s climax is a canon event for susie ruining the surprise

i am fucking coming

>>530806165
Would Ralsei kill Noelle if he deemed it necessary?

>>530806364
>He has red horns because he wanted to mimic Dess
MY DICK

>>530805663
The only good human is a dead human.

>>530806407
The egg room itself is neat

>>530802740
Asriel x Noelle OTP

>>530806280
I think I’ve seen people say that the Titan could be rook equivalent as well?

>>530799782
She’s only 5 chapters old you sik phucc

>>530806407
YOUR PRINCE-KING'S WORDS
>You won't get through your teen years without at least one Egg.

>>530806218
my interpretation is that LOVE finds its way to the girl, no matter what.

if THE GIRL is susie, what if she can still fall in love with her, maybe she falls in love with kris in some way, because you can tell how aloof she is to noelle's advances.

maybe LOVE is not what we make it to be.
maybe its not that kind of love.
maybe LOVE is but a moment where you know that everything will be alright, that you have friends and that you will never be alone no matter what.
but maybe... what if its not LOVE but LV?

maybe i'm thinking too deep here.

>>530806275
Not sure if i made gaster proud of me. I edited my stats and cash to rush through chapters one and two when three and four came out looking for added and changed content than set them back to normal when i got to 3 and 4.
Would gaster be proud of save editing if it still means he gets his deltarune?

>>530806280
Who is the Sword chess piece and the Flower chess piece?

>>530806460
He'd probably prefer literally any other option, but if he thought it was the only choice, he'd instantly obliterate her like that statue.

>>530806572
Shut up chud the japanese version uses romantic love and not pun lv maybe if you had media literacy you would understand this

>>530806573
It's extremely easy to break stuff if you save-edit. Something completely innocuous might still result in bugs and glitches.

>>530805949
>yeah, the character called the queen wasn't actually the queen, that was toriel
retard

>>530806721
Real

>>530806573
>FASCINATING.
>PERHAPS
>TESTING BEYOND THE LIMITS
>OF WHAT'S USUALLY POSSIBLE
>WILL LEAD TO
>INTERESTING
>RESULTS.
>I UNDERSTAND
>THAT TIME IS LIMITED.
>YOU WISH TO SEE
>MORE OF DELTARUNE.
>ANY WAY YOU CAN
>I AM FINE WITH.

>>530805949
I thought that was referring to chapter 2's "Kris get the banana" scene where you can just drive through all the cars and it' can't be stopped. Queen's car never was stopped by any person. it just blew up, not stopped. no one stopped it.

So I'm still trying to do that whole "feed the AI every line of text" thing. And
I realize now how futile this is. The amount of text in this game is just too large without a curated list, and because there's no speaker ID associated with the strings, I can't attach a name to them in any intelligent capacity, so it'd just be raw text. And on top of that, the AI will spit out whatever name is repeated most in the dialogue anyway because that's just how it works.
It was(n't) fun going through everything and cleaning up the data, but ultimately this is pointless and I honestly knew that from the start

>try to find video on knight battle with canon defeat
>all of the videos on youtube are of guys no hitting the entire battle and calling her the roaring fraud

>>530806719
LOVE is when two people fight together at Dojo

>>530806528
well: for a chess match you need a your playpieces and you must consider, what the enemy has, is what you have.

for every dark(ner) rook, you need a light rook.
the chess theory expands if you don't focus on the chess pieces themselves but that you know that each piece belongs to a side and that the other said has an equal amount of them by the start of the match.

who are the pawns? who are the rooks?
this makes the theory harder to follow.

maybe rouxls kaard is a rook? if you stop pronouncing his name in an anglo-franconian fashion, he is just "Rooksels".

>>530806817
I'll i did was edit hp and cash. i didn't touch anything else.

>>530806165
>Noelle's presence is possibly counterproductive to one or both of those goals
but isn't susie implied to be a would be villain per gerson? despite this ralsei attempts to & (give me an ampersand!) does nudge her in the correct direction. + from there on out hes always praising susie esp for her kindness, probably because she wasn't supposed to be kind.
yet when hes around noelle he doesn't care and when you mention her to him hes not really moved in any direction.
maybe if susie has taken her place hes trying to just keep the status quo?

>>530806719
The Japanese version says the girl will "learn the true meaning of love," which, while not using LOVE in English as the JP translation of Undertale did, is a pretty clear allusion to it. Japanese people know that 愛 is love in English anyway.

Torielbros how are we doing right now?

>>530806985
the fuck is he injecting

>>530806861
Pretty sure the game does indeed have Speaker for each dialogue. Just mod the game to log it during playthrough or something.

>>530807054
Toriel's pussy juice

>>530806943
I will welcome him.

>>530806976
actually sounds more ominous than the original english text.
>Level Of ViolencE

>>530806943
Leave my nigga Ramb alone the Roulxs ones are much more fitting

>>530805949 (me)
>>530806280
Take a look at >>530410760 in the archive for my take on it

>>530807087
looks like lean

>>530806943
I kinda did shed a tear for him. It's understandable though he was forgotten. He's a power strip, usually those are plugged in once and forgotten about untill you need to plug something in. also people get kinda pissed if you just take and walk off with one so Susie was either not paying attention/cared to take it when getting tenna or the strip was still in use and it would be inconvenient for toriel to find out something she uses was unplugged.

>>530807116
Does it actually use the same acronym for love that undertale used in japanese?

>>530806873
You could just load your save up and die to the Knight yourself, it would probably be faster

>>530806951
Still can result in stuff, like killing enemy so fast the game goes into invalid state, which persist if you save

Can someone please explain to me why people pretend to love Ramb? Is it a contrarian thing like with Papyrus?

>>530806450
cum?

>>530807253
Pretend? I love my socket buddy

>>530807332
in my mercedez benz

>>530806967
>maybe if susie has taken her place hes trying to just keep the status quo?
It's likely either this or that he thinks that Susie redeeming herself and becoming a hero instead of a villain could be enough to change the bad ending of the prophecy. He explicitly said he thought kindness could change it, after all.

>>530807191
they would have to if they wanted to do a good job.
that's why only few countries make good translations.

>>530807253
>brit
>seems to care about you
that's more than enough for 99% of anons here

Kris the pussy

>>530807332
a baa

>>530807253
No. Ramb simply wants Kris to be satisfied and happy knowing Tenna can't do that. Ramb enables us to take the ShadowMantle Route without the typical schizo trope of
>Aha! You fell for my trap! Now I shall use this opportunity to kill you!
Ramb is genuine and has no ulterior motive. Ramb is genuinely nice.

>>530807419
no retard I am asking a question about deltarune's script where it says "love finds its way to the girl"
There is a counter part of that line in japanese
Is it the same as in the japanese translation of undertale?

>>530807392
This is the first time someone has brought up Susie in the prophecy in a way that actually makes sense

>>530806341
She’s just a sick pervert

>>530807253
Because of that Pippins who spit on his grave without any reason.

>>530807471
* Mom, I am literally melting.

>>530806721
Why is Maggie in my Soul? Get her out of there.

It's so easy to post anything to get (you)s here, look:
I think Gerson fucking sucks

>>530807191
No, LOVE in Undertale is still LOVE in Japanese. The wordplay woud have been really hard to translate, so they left it as is since love is a common enough loan word for them anyway. The prophecy in Deltarune uses the Japanese word 愛 (meaning love, specifically true love or deeply felt love), but again, nips know that's equivalent to love in English so the double meaning isn't lost on them.

>>530807517
motherfucker, listen to the words i say:
LOVE is integral in flowey's deception and the whole reveal by sans only makes sense if they are connected.

why wouldnt the japanese make up a word that through abstract thinking does the same?

even my fantranslated copy of undertale has a joke about it.

>>530804727
I still subscribe to time loop theory and that Ralsei and/or Kris tried multiple times to have Noelle take that place in the prophecy and she let them down every single time, so eventually they started substituting in Susie who does a much better job. (You) don't know about it but it'd explain why Ralsei doesn't want Noelle to participate or to get close to Kris, and if Kris is also in the know, it'd explain (in part) why Kris gets so butthurt about you forcing her to be relevant in Wierd route.

I'M TIMEPOOPING

>>530807690
That being the case, and considering what the japanese text says, I'm now 200% sure LOVE stands for the UT meaning, not the real world meaning.

>>530806718
>pic
Awwwww.

>>530807253
I don't mind Ramb but I do not welcome him into team schizo.

While playing Deltarune my computer crashed and showed bluescreen but the SOUL was still visible on it in the bottom center.
What kind of Toby's meta bullshitery is this?

>>530807146
thanks anon, even if you don't believe it, its engaging to talk to you just for the fun of it.

I fucking hate snails I will firegrave all snails

>>530807253
It's just part of the trauma conga line for Kris.

>>530807885
YOU HAVE BEEN CHOSEN
DO NOT RESIST

>>530807698
The problem with this "time loop" theory is that it hinges on the idea that this whole mess is occurring outside of and beyond our interaction, which wouldn't make sense. As the player, we are supposed to have the final say. If they are just going to restart the world after we go through weird route anyway, then there's no point in keeping us around now. They'd have forced us back out and restarted anyway. Nor does that explain Kris' antagonism towards us, because by all accounts he should be thrilled to have something changing the way the story plays out in normal route.

>>530807885
it's broken free, turn off your pc now

>>530807885
sure thing, bro

>>530808014
>Stupid shit vessel.

>>530807686
you are supposed to make your bait have a serious tone to it, some anons on here will genuinely forget it is bait if the bait in question appears like if the poster means it. posting sarcastic bait will not yield many (You)s because most anons only want to respond to genuine bait, even if both the serious and sarcastic bait posts are equally undeserving of getting replied to. people keep saying "don't reply to bait", but it is painfully obvious that the majority loves to reply to such.

>>530807958
That's easy to explain though, this run is just the first one where (You) got added into the mix. Kris' antagonism is because we're the first real element outside of any control or prediction. It'd also explain Ralsei's "let's close our eyes" sections, in particular that he doesn't know when it's gonna work or not like how in Chapter 4 you can just straight up tell him to fuck off.

>>530807945
What the FUCK did snails do to you?

>>530807690
>>530807797
I think LOVE in Deltarune has a different meaning from level of violence.
It seems to be more about forming a parasitic relationship and denyone someone else their free will to enforce your own.
Deltarune has way more focus of a focus on interpersonal connections and relationships. As opposed to Undertale which is about an individual's interactions with the world. But we don't know what the acronym LOVE stands for in this game yet.

>>530807686
I'm old!

>>530807925
Though some people believe I am needlessly aggressive about it (I totally am and I know it), I'll do my best to entertain any theory that isn't "December, December, December" <3
Seriously. I'm sick of talking about her.

>>530807690
>>530807797
>but again, nips know that's equivalent to love in English so the double meaning isn't lost on them.
That is a crazy cope that somehow japs would interpret a different word for love as being a reference to an english pun in another game. Even more so for people who played deltarune but not undertale, given that undertale at this point is a decade old
At best I could see it being some kind of metaphor with the soul representing love due to its heart shape, but the fact that it's different from undertale makes it extremely obvious to me that toby is going for something different this time.

>>530807693
You don't understand the conversation that's happening dumbass

>>530807945
apologize now

>>530807958
Kris sold his SOUL to Chara in order to "reset" the world. Chara did so, then fucked off with Kris' SOUL. Kris by all accounts should have been dead after Chara's stunt, but he persisted through sheer determination until he stole the Red SOUL from Gaster.

>>530808231
Anon you're literally responding to a post explaining how they transported the pun into japanese so they'd get it...

>>530808017
I wanted to take photo but it reboot within ~5s.
It's not the first time I had BSOD on this PC recently, but I don't ever recall it ever showing some of the background. I was at the part where you go through vents and everything is dark so it's not really that weird only soul was visible. Still, very trippy effect. Reminded me of that moment where the secret game boost in chapter 3 and you see soul for a while before the world loads.

>>530807686
Here man. A (you) for you it's coconut flavored though and artificial coconut tastes like straight Gaster ass.

>>530802221
I'm making butter chicken

>>530808165
This answers nothing. If Kris is in on this plan and chose to play the role of cage, why would he antagonize the entity that's supposedly going to help him with his goal? It's just stupid. There's no logical explanation to it. Ralsei teaching us about our projecting power also doesn't fit this mold if you consider what it is he's said to Kris ("and that's why, ok Kris?") while we aren't looking. It's not quite lining up.

>>530808191
>>530808264
I'M FEEDING YOU TO THE NEAREST FRENCH PERSON FUCK SNAILS RAAAHHHHHHH

>>530808338
>LOVE in Undertale is still LOVE in Japanese
>The prophecy in Deltarune uses the Japanese word 愛 (meaning love, specifically true love or deeply felt love)
Holy fuck learn to read

>>530808446
OH GOD!

<3

>>530808446
Damn, i didn't know Kris was the actor for Suicidal Smuf? crazy small world we live in, too bad that role was a one episode deal.

>>530808305
I am once again forced to post this image I made back in 2019

>>530805663
Imagine if Andy and Leyley cried about the player like Kris.

>>530808127
trvke

>>530808413
>If Kris is in on this plan and chose to play the role of cage, why would he antagonize the entity that's supposedly going to help him with his goal?
I never said the Soul is there because of Kris?

And even if it was, Kris might have summoned the Soul just to help, suddenly found themselves possessed and with the Soul controlling the body, and freaked out and is now extremely wary of what we might decide to do.

Momdyne Kris should have dyed her hair red.

>>530808607
Anon. Gaster literally was about to put Player's SOUL into a Vessel, is someone who facilitated the connection that even allows you to play the game. Pretending that he's uninvolved is retarded

>>530808127
If you aren't here to take the bait, what the fuck ARE you here for?

>>530808810
i am here to goat post

>>530808528
Do you think even the worst person can change?
That everybody can be a good person, if they just try?

>>530808893
Based!

>>530808893
please go to conversion therapy

>>530808231
>somehow japs would interpret a different word for love as being a reference to an english pun in another game
The prophecy line is 娘は愛の真の意味を知る "The girl will know the true meaning of love." It explicitly primes them for the idea that "love" means something other than the obvious meaning, and is arguably more overt about that the English line is.
>more so for people who played deltarune but not undertale
Toby has repeatedly made it clear that Deltarune is for people who have played Undertale. With regards to Japan specifically, Undertale has widespread popularity there and most people who would play Deltarune have already played Undertale.

>>530808338
the issue is that >>530808231 is asking me about deltarune when i respond in undertale but why in the bloody fuck wouldn't take the carry-over?

lookitdis bitch making LOVE puns even a few thousand kilometers somewhere else in the world.

>>530808615
Andy would use us as a second scapegoat to blame everything on so he can keep running from his own shittiness.

>>530808798
To assume Gaster is orchestrating everything that is occurring is retarded, and to assume Chara is even an outside force in this game is even more so. This is not Undertale. The rules of this world are different as we have seen time and time again. The only time you can attribute "Gaster's" (assuming it's really him) influence to the state of the world is the fact that (you) can communicate with him. We can't even be certain the reasons we're in the world is due to him. It's entirely likely that we just happened to show up and he caught us at an opportune time.

>Gerson didn't recruit the Gueis
Your save will now be discarded

Reminder that the spamton fight took place in not-mayor's basement. It has the entry 27 noises for good reason, there's something deeper down.The knight was created with whatever the fuck kris found down there. The "X is piloting Y's corpse" people might not be far off.

>>530808504
If it just said LOVE instead of 愛, there would be zero ambiguity as to what it's referring to which would defeat the purpose of the line.

>>530808893
Baased

>>530806197
She knew what they had was true love.

>>530808607
This image is outdated, replace both of them with december.

>>530809185
Toby put the noise there to show that this noise doesn't mean anything and it's just creepy, industrial audience.

I almost lost this picture because it got deleted before I could save it but I managed to find it again so I feel fate is telling me it's an important picture and I need to post it right now so here you go

>>530809338
>audience
*ambience

>>530801505
>>530801958
>Just a prank, bro

>>530806861
i did what you were trying to do with o3 deep research & it was very very confident that it was dess

>>530809185
so, dark worlds can just cross spaces in the light world?

>>530808978
>The prophecy line is 娘は愛の真の意味を知る "The girl will know the true meaning of love." It explicitly primes them for the idea that "love" means something other than the obvious meaning, and is arguably more overt about that the English line is.
Again, I think if you're going down that route then toby would have used the same loan word as in undertale. The double link of synonym->acronym is just too clunky.
I think the alternative reading in English is definitely intentional, given the episodic release, but I also think it's more likely to result in a different ending than undertale.
The most plausible outcome is something like "love" meaning the soul rather than violence specifically.

You have to rely on all of the assumptions that:
1. He wants to preserve the pun
2. but also he doesn't want to make it obvious
3. but only in japanese, in english it's fine
4. And it will make enough sense to japanese people to treat both words as synonymous such that they will be okay with the word switch into acronym connection.
And maybe you're still right, but that's sketchy as hell when it would have been easy to just use the loan word instead and avoid the mess

>>530809191
And then the pun would have actually made sense, instead of not working.
Or, and here me out here, maybe the pun isn't there?

>>530809000
>but why in the bloody fuck wouldn't take the carry-over?
BECAUSE IT CHANGES THE FUCKING WORD USED SO THE ACRONYM BREAKS

>>530809691
occam's razor, bitch.

>>530809804
>what's more likely, that he changed the word so he could draw a fucking cork board of synonmys and acronyms
>or, the pun just doesn't carry over from undertale
>hmmmmmmm

>>530809434
And now I have it too. Thanks, anon!

sex monster

https://youtu.be/1I2COQd31bQ
I wish I could watch a let's play channel with susie and ralsei as hosts

>>530809434
Thanks, I like your important picture. I'll keep it safe for you.

>>530772735
Hate it when fangames go into obvious out of character dialogue like this.

>>530809927
>>530810041
You're welcome. It's a long story but that picture also led to me getting spoiled on OFF which I haven't played yet but I wanted to play but now even when I do play it my experience has been ruined so I figure, better make it worth it.

>>530809881
we have no proof so far, and if there was proof its going to be in future chapters, but actually won't because i don't think we will go to the church again to be revealed the pieces of the prophecy that we didn't get to see.

also: who gives a shit about japanese.

>There are people who actually think Chara is possessing Kris
I wonder what causes some to be so painfully and blatantly wrong.

>>530809691
>toby would have used the same loan word as in undertale.
But, again, if it just said 娘はLOVEの真の意味を知る, there would be absolutely zero ambiguity as to whether it referred to LOVE in the Undertale sense. The ambiguity is clearly intentional.
>And then the pun would have actually made sense, instead of not working.
It's not even a pun at that point though.

>gyatt gyatt gyatt
What did they mean by this?

Ideal relationship

Jevil
Spamton
Plant Waifu Schizo
Ramb
Knight/ERAM
Kris

All 6 schizos

>>530808978
>>530809691
Now that this came into discussion, I've seen parts of the Japanese fandom actually questioning the "愛" in the prophecy and actually associating it to the LOVE from Undertale.

>>530809945
Plap plague

fave why do you take every opportunity possible to flaunt your ass?
you got a problem or something?

>>530810230
This but Dess is also they're and they're sizzoring while Kris's 16 inch dick is between them

Why is the child called crisp? Are they a salad?

>>530810230
Is it apple flavored?

>>530810436
nyoh~

Is Deltarune an actual game or just an excuse for Toby to release a video game soundtrack album?

>I can do anything
>except stay relevant

>>530810647
It's more of a videogame than undertale at least.

>>530810773
believe in chaos

>>530810230
man, i fucking hate how much i know things will never be alright.

Should I replay Chapter 2 without doing the Snowgrave route? I only did Snowgrave for Chapter 2 and I'm curious about the changes if you don't follow through. Still gonna do Snowgrave on my main save.

>>530810773
He will stay relevant in my heart

>>530810908
Yea, showgrave changes and shortens the chapter.

>>530810908
The way Snowgrave plays out implies that you've already play the normal route so yes.

>>530810978
Fair enough. I just wish the Snowgrave route in Chapter 2 was longer because I had fun hanging with an OP Noelle who slowly learned to be more assertive.

>>530810773
Trust the plan. Jevil and Seam's remarriage will be plot-critical.

>>530810596
They don't call them "applesauce" for nothing

>>530811058
she wasn't really assertive.
the most assertive thing she did was "i'm going to go home" and saunter off.

you call a puppet assertive, not its puppeteer?

>I don't need therapy, I have my flowers
>And they don't cost $250 per hour

>>530811254
mmmmmm plant waifu schizo boss

>>530811054
Figured as much. I'll momentarily miss Snowgrave Noelle though.

>>530811221
You teach her to be strong, and to strive to become stronger even though she is the player's puppet. It's beautiful...

>>530810183
>But, again, if it just said 娘はLOVEの真の意味を知る, there would be absolutely zero ambiguity as to whether it referred to LOVE in the Undertale sense
And because it doesn't say that, there is zero ambiguity that it doesn't refer to LOVE in the undertale sense see:
>>530810384
My reading is that the double meaning in english is intentional misdirection. Since the misdirection wasn't possible in japanese without compromising the meaning, it wasn't important enough to preserve so it was discarded.

>>530810773
>Enter: Bet30

>>530811058
>with an OP Noelle who slowly learned to be more assertive.
That's the one part that I always found funny about her character. She finally shows some degree of assertiveness only on the "genocide route" of deltarune, meanwhile we are on a countdown for ch5 and Noelle is still still a shy doe

>>530806656
Flower is Asgore or a darkner based on something extremely important to him. Assuming sword isn't knight again, it's probably Carol and much less likely Rudy, due to the katanas in the Holiday house.

>>530811440
*shy doe on the normal route

>>530809669
The trick is to use a model that isn't trained on data from the last month. It will be polluted with all of the people posting their theories and won't provide an unbiased answer

>>530811440
>>530811593
In fact I prefer Snowgrave Noelle more. That's also because she kind of becomes some sort of twisted companion to the player, it's lovely.

>>530811448
Also, the key is gotten right after the flower and the sword is technically optional for the exit. I think the key represents the last piece of the shelter code and the other two parts were the guitar and fire extinguisher. The fact that the sword room is optional might be a weird route thing or show that a confrontation with Carol might be considered optional. Going a bit schizo, the pure crystal might change that sword encounter.

I LOVE TV!!! I LOVE TENNA!!!!!!

>>530811404
>it wasn't important enough to preserve so it was discarded.
But it wasn't discarded. The Japanese line is phrased completely differently from the English line ("Love finds its way to the girl") in order to maintain the ambiguity that "love" means something other than romantic love without just making it obvious by using the English word.

>>530811723
>it's lovely

What will Rals be like in Chapter 7?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBQowWynD28
God what the actual fuck is this thing

>>530811914
What he was always meant to be like. A Lamb to the slaughter.

>>530811325
I think its a little more nuanced.
yeah she becomes very powerful, but for a duplicitous reason.
what she wants isn't POWER but COURAGE but confuses the two.
i think noelle now knows that she can move mountains with a snap of her fingers. (hooves?)
she has the power to do everything, stop anything in her way, but noelle wants to have the courage to tell susie how she feels.

this however, will not be.
it will never be enough.
she will escalate into ever more powerful forms but never be enough for her to confess.

she could kill susie where she stands, but she will never have the heart to tell her how she feels.

>>530811903
LOVEly

>>530812031
She doesn't need Susie anyway, she merely needs to get stronger.

Elec/Holy schizo boss for chapter 6

>>530811723
Love images like those.

THE BROWNING KNIGHT

>>530812192
just let him go

>>530811938
Your humble servant, who will follow you to the utmost.

>>530801453
well, he is living with Mettaton now, so

>>530812414
Not enough bloom

>>530812414
Bro, I told you not to play that cartridge labelled HAUNTED DELTARUNE

>>530812414
Kris' choices don't matter. MY choices do

>>530811938
>>530812372
Toby told us since Undertale. It's a demon buried in the code. The original lines for the "humble service" thing literally call it "Demon".

And now it's all over a secret side path all about FREEDOM. Not hard to put things together from there.

Woodybros how we coping?

Our heroes.

>>530812880
Do you have this image in lower quality?

>>530812880
...and Kris

>>530812880
Wait a second. Susie doesn't have tits. She is flat as a board.

>>530812802
>>530812372
I truly wonder if IMG_FRIEND will be elaborated on or not in Chapter 5. I feel like Ch3-4 ended up being blueballs when it came to the larger picture of the story, but with the whole "field of pink and gold" maybe we'll finally see the more mysterious elements of the narrative come to light. Since Love & Money seems to be a strong motif regarding the colors, and Asgore lacking both, I'm crossing my fingers that we'll finally get some actual answers to chew on. I really do not look forward to waiting a year.

whenever i see that dialogue about Susie starting a band i just think of Susie and Kris as Prozzäk (do you think that’ll remain a gag or will they actually start one)

>>530812880
the flags are waving THE WRONG WAY

Hey /utg/, what's up?

>>530813147
Nah man you don't get it, there's a very strong wind blowing from their bac-
>Susie's hair (which is also offmodel)
...or maybe the artist just genuienly sucks.

You wouldn't wanna lewd Flowey if he just was a she and had eyelashes, would you, anon?
Cause we may get that, but you wouldn't be that simple, right?

Impregnate flowers

Kris’s real SOUL will have a brand new color and trait

>>530812880
The love the shitty quality of the image, pls make it lower.

>>530806861 (me)
>>530809669
Here's the list of one's I tried with. Each gives a wildly different answer and I think only one is even remotely correct.
https://rentry.co/o4c3ekm5

As I said, my dataset wasn't very ideal since the names of the speakers wasn't tied to the lines, and there's no simple way to associate them programmatically

>>530813290
>You wouldn't wanna lewd Flowey if he just was a she
Nah.
>and had eyelashes
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH MY DIIIIIIIIIIICK I'M CUMMING EVERYWHERE HELP I'M FUCKING DYING OF HORNINESS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH

>>530812880
Ralsei is playersexual

kris drew a dick n balls at the diner

>>530813391
I love*

Sorry, i'm tired today.

>>530813478
our fuckin teacher said

>>530813290
I would lewd Flowey as is. In fact, I already have.

>>530812880
Why is Ralsei wearing a shoe?

If a Dark Fountain springs inside your house, how fucked are you, guys?

>>530813290
i prefer the OG theory.

>>530813549
WHO'S BEEN DRAWING DICKS?

>>530813290
I would straight up die of laughter if Deltarune ended up up having Flowey in it again.

>>530813609
cunty caprid

>>530813609
two shoes, even

>>530812287
I love this one

>>530813290
>ant-sized image
sorry, fixed. prefer this theory.

Fave does NOT believe in the Virgin Mary.

>>530813387
Brown SOUL - Stubbornness
you will not be moved by anyone but yourself, moves sporadically, WASD controls the bullet patterns instead. Associated clothing: Antique Poncho.

>>530814193
Constipation Soul...

>>530813970
He looks very polite

If that little shit Lancer is considered part of the Fun Gang, Jevil and Spamton should be too. I won't hear otherwise.

>>530813290
Bold of you to assume I need that much to lewd Flowey.

>>530814193
poop soul

>>530806861
I think trying to use AI for this is doomed but these past weeks I've been tagging character data for all the text, part programmatically and part manually. I've got chapter 1 and most of chapter 2 done, I could share what I have.

>>530814279
>>530814415
it was the only color left that didn’t feel really mary sue-ish

>>530814394
Lancer can't be a member of the Lancer Fan Club, that's narcissistic

>>530814394
If Jevil and Spamton are our friends after we defeat them no matter what, why don't they get their own rooms in the castle? Do they lose all their rights once they get put on permanent armor duty? Does Ralsei just assume they're happier as slaves?

kris's real dad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_R2LtgTxU8

>>530814660
They don't deserve it

>>530813710
love joel but jeez seeing him just talk over or blow past interesting theme-laden text and dialog drives me up the nut

Kris was the result of Varik x Poncho Human mpreg

What’s his endgame??

why is there an evil satan cat following us??

>>530814458
>>530814643

Good.

>>530814660
They simply prefer the spacious pants hole

>>530814660
the inventory pants hole must be comfortable enough for them not to complain

>>530814838
it’s either that or watch Melpert who reads it but spends 90% of the steam tweaking settings or whatever

>>530814660
Jevil's spent so long in the clink that he's happier just roaming around.

Spamton probably turned down the offer for a room because of his pride. He doesn't accept charity unless it's money.

The rape allegory took up all the air in ch4 weird route discussion, and fair enough. But i think it's under appreciated that the route introduced a new meta UI element to the game. In Noelle's room, the game takes advantage of you controlling the soul and also you selecting dialogue options with the soul. So that, when you pick "Proceed", you warp from the vent into Noelle's bedroom once the dialogue box leaves, since that's where the soul "is" when you pick that option.
A very, well, weird sequence.

>>530814874
>mpreg
Varik is a hermaphrodite in the UTDR universe like all humans

>>530814458
>https://youtu.be/o6t9d7lylbI
dessimated.

>>530814660
>Does Ralsei just assume they're happier as slaves?
Unironically yes. Remember how he "comforted" Tenna before the Knight showed up? Ralsei projects his lack of self-worth onto every Darkner and assumes they're all as codependent on the Lightners as he is.

>>530814893
What part of FREEDOM do you not understand?

>>530812414
what did toby mean by this

>>530814893
Chapter 5 villain.

When IMAGE_FRIEND was added to chapter 2 it was intended as a teaser for what was then going to be the next release chapters 3-5.

>>530815135
It's an extension of Ralsei using the "what's Susie up to" mechanic in order to force the SOUL to watch a cutscene elsewhere.

>>530815351
literally just hit.

>>530815378
>>530815135
It's also why Kris instructed Noelle never to speak of what happened. Not simply so we didn't know what Kris did, but because people talking to Kris and asking them questions is one of the times our influence is strongest.

>>530809686
I mean yeah, all of them displace our heroes when they close. At bare minimum Dark worlds cause some sort of spacial anomaly in the Light world.

>>530815272
>bad boy fuck you get in the rectangle

>>530812040
Change Susie with Ralsei in this picture.

Just bought the patterned fabric for my itabag insert. I can't wait to be the most socially maldeveloped person in my friend group now!

>>530815272
If you force yourself to not think of anything to say, then you can't say anything at all.

Problems with waifuing Darkners
1-They are illusions. They are the creations of Lightner brains projecting thoughts and emotions on inanimate objects in the void of light. It's sad to fall in love with something fake.

2-Darkners exist to serve and make Lightners happy. They view Lightners as gods, essentially. There is an inherent power imbalance between the two groups. Exploiting it is wrong.

3-Sexualizing a fucking TV is weird, bruv

>>530814660
>slaves
They have more freedom staying in your pockets. They can literally jump out and do whatever whenever they want to.

>>530815504
we moved from one closet to the other in ch1, the fields of hopes and reams was literally us phasing through the walls into some part of the foresty that surrounds the school?
according to this theory we phased into holiday's basement to fight spamton, which was already hacked into the holiday residence and is the reason she collects heart-shaped objects.

boy, do i wonder what those rooms inbetween rooms are, or where ch5 will take us.

I don't like bad endings I don't want the player to succeed on weird route

I was trying to animate but I got distracted and did this

>>530815786
Lightners are creations of real people's brains projecting thoughts and emotions onto flashing pixels.

>>530815816
>the fields of hopes and reams was literally us phasing through the walls into some part of the foresty that surrounds the school?
No, we see what part of the classroom corresponds to the field area.

>>530814434
I can say with certainty that AI will never be useful for something like this, but godspeed to you. I would help, but it would have to be on a different platform

So why does the Knight have Gaster's stigmata?

>>530816006
the chess field, yeah, seams being there, the kaard kingdom, but not the forest itself.

>>530815786
>it’s sad to fall in love with something fake
>waifuing
nandesuka?

Why are people mad at Toriel for calling Susie Snoozie?

>>530816197
People interpreted it as Toriel misremembering Susie's name.
Personally, i think it's a misread. I think both of the "firm camps" get a little deranged, which is unfortunately a symptom of internet discussion.

>>530816197
Because you snoozie you loozie

>>530815808
Hot take but Toby is really squandering them by not giving them more special optional cutscenes and battle flavor text the way he gave Spamton in Tenna's fight. If Tenna could get Castle Town-specific cutscenes and a side quest despite his survival being completely dependent on player choice, there's no reason why Jevil and Spamton can't have at least one scene with Lancer/King/Seam or the Addisons.

traumatizing Noelle didn’t make me sad during Snowgrave but making Queen depressed fucking got me man

>>530816468
Jevil is asleep. He said so himself. He will be asleep for 100 years. Spamton is just vibing. Still thinking about making that chat mod for chapter 3 despite the lore though

>>530815786
I'd argue that the second point only really applies to Tenna and Ralsei because of their own fucked up self-esteem problems. Most of the Darkners we've met seem like pretty normal people who just want to live their lives by Tony Fox standards.

>>530816035
The only thing that comes close to even approaching the subject of why there might be repeating elements in the Dark Worlds (Gaster's 'stigmata', Creepy Smiles and fucked up faces, Pink and Yellow) is this:
>A CRACKED CONCH, SURROUNDED BY WASHED UP GLASS.
>NOT A PERSON SEEMED TO WANT IT.
>LISTEN TO IT?
>THE SOUND OF THE OCEAN...
>A PITY, IT WAS JUST REPEATING ALL IT KNEW.

>>530816570
This is why I have an edited save with everyone recruited despite going through snowgrave. Now everyone is happy

>>530816619
Jevil isn't actually asleep, he has an action in Tenna's boss battle. He said he was going to sleep because he was "pacified" and "tired," but he's clearly just fucking around.

>>530811848
cope/seethe
the choice of words means the acronym is unviable like I said.
The meaning is clearly ambiguous, but it can't be the same ambiguity as was in undertale

Explain to me why I should take FRIEND any more seriously than Starwalker

>>530816807
That's not an action per Jevil himself. It's part of the "devil energy" ability from the tail. It increases your chaos. It's not Jevil himself doing the action like Spamton appearing to speak to tenna

>>530816723
I would fuck this Flowey as long as he has a penis

How do monsters survive as a species when 9/10 of them are gay?

>>530816930
"Joker's bet" sure sounds like it's Jevil

>>530816996
The one straight couple fucks like mad and pops out like 12 children per mother.

Noelle please stop playing Oldschool Runescape

>>530816738
So it might be like the collective unconsciousness? Interesting.
That implies like these are like base elements of human psyche projected into the dark world's illusions.

>>530817102
But we never see a straight couple with more than 2 kids.

>>530804170
Knowing what we know about Asriel in DR (nothing), he's probably already turned into a flower, or the memes about him being a hot pocket eating depressed bachelor are true.

>>530816016
Asking the AI to please write a game theory won't work but it might be useful for more rudimentary analysis, asking it to list places where the guy talks about the thing

>>530816849
You should in fact take him less seriously since Starwalker is an actual character and friend is just creepypasta bait

>>530817187
They're the exceptions.

>>530816996
They reproduce by collecting sexual fluids in buckets and creating children from the resulting genetic slurry, so gender doesn't matter

>>530817140
Good. It makes the two good ones we have more special.

>>530817140
trust the horny ch 5 death/scythe schizo plant girl theory

>>530817140
chapter 5's will be extra wacky believe me

i still can't get what someone said on twitter about darkners basically being the gems from steven universe as middle aged gay men out of my head.

>>530817260
>asriel is a child of the trough

>>530815942
MC Berdly

>>530817405
>middle aged gay man
hello me

chat, is it morally correct to cum on does?

Noelle, in the Chapter 4 Snowgrave ending, wants to talk to Kris.
What does she want to talk about?

>>530817405
cant people just say 'that's tumblr' anymore

>>530810773
he's still my favorite schizoboss, toby brought out the Super FX chip for him

>>530817510
>>530817636
>skirts
do gay men really?

>>530817140
>I want to milk the cow until it dies, toby

>>530817405
I never watched SU. What does this mean?

>>530817636
>>530817510
Cute homos I aspire to become one some day

>>530816035
Byproduct of getting mixed up in the in-between

>>530810773
I feel so fucking bad for Jevilaggots, it's been a parade of nonstop humiliation for them since 2018.

>>530811071
>Jevil and Seam will get remarried but Spamton and Tenna can't.
devious, tobias
very devious.

>>530817668
the communist chairman chara.

>>530817762
basically the gems (alien race) are born with a job they're supposed to do and base all their self worth on it. they consider themselves automatons and don't really understand concepts like love or self worth unless taught it by gigachad humans.

i dont think it's a crazy comparison, Queen's giant robot form is clearly a riff on White Diamond (series final boss)

>>530817690
The ultimate fantasy of all gay men is to fuck a woman that refers to herself as a man

>Not OPs, just an idea
A possible continuation of the brain-damage AU (>>530792368)
>*Dark world
>*Test Tenna mini-games
(you) can use it as physical therapy to make better use of the body while also confessing to Susie about the depth of the situation. If all goes well than you could convince her to get Berdly/Noelle into the dark world. Kris may be dead but the body still has a life residing inside. I mean even in the green we see them nearly smile indicating greater motor control compared to the first part.
>Knight/Carol/Roaring stuff
Perhaps they first put all of that on hold but when they see/hear that (you) are in the dark worlds again, maybe it gets put back but now under completely different context since they're bouncing off of (you) directly and not being filtered by Kris. Could also have dark world 'Kris" have a slightly altered design to reference his absence and (you)r presence. Another idea is that (you) can take on the fact Carol has pre-approved you coming in so you can talk with Noelle/Carol.

he lives

>New theory video dropped
>Author spends minutes of the video lecturing/berating fans about Kris' pronouns, despite it being unrelated to the video's topic
>Assumes that Kris is non-binary, despite it being both offensive (you can't assume someone's gender identity based solely on pronouns, especially "they") and non-canon
Why this fandom is like this?

>>530816750
>Now everyone is happy

>>530818216
literally who

>>530817762
The Gems are a race of alien with a culture based on objectification and servitude to the elite in their fucked up caste system. Because they're immortal sentient space rocks, they don't consider themselves "real" people the way humans do, because they were created to fulfill one specific purpose and anything that challenges their way of thinking emotionally obliterates them and sends them spiraling.

>>530818216
run toby run

>>530818239
Link?

>>530817082
It's almost like "joker's bet" is a chaos power that comes from wearing the tail.
If it were really Jevil, the effect wouldn't only be present when on Susie

>>530818269
nta but exactly

I'm going insane and I can't stop humming the freedom motif

>>530818160
No it's not?? Where are you getting that idea from?

>>530818216
>hussie can't even come up with lore about himself that doesn't involve toby anymore
that's just sad man

I do not want to live in a world without cute deer wives

>>530818216
Toby run away before he cums in your ass again!!! The fandom can't handle another noelle!!!!!

>>530818374
"The Source of Kris' Determination" or something like that

Which Undertale/Deltarune character would misread Ganondorf as Gandalf?

>>530818495
what are you going insane over?

>>530818424
Did someone say
Chaos?
*surfs 10 realities at once*

>>530818651
Lancer if he could read

>>530818604
You mean this video being premiered right now?
https://youtu.be/DDDNo04rZTM

>>530818269
Kris' happiness became irrelevant the moment he decided to work against us. The only solace I will offer him is killing Sans a second time.

>>530818239
It's not just that Kris goes by they in the game, it's that the entire issue of Kris's gender has been politicized. By calling her a he you are revealing that you aren't fully invested in the woke cult and must be reconditioned and purged of your libertarian/conservative notions of stability.

>>530818735
yes

>>530818579
Watching UT/DR fill the vacuum Homestuck left after it crashed and burned after nearly a full decade of unstoppable popularity has certainly been an experience. Time really is a flat circle.

>>530818684
I don't know, everything, if I knew, I wouldn't be going insane

>>530818239
>despite it being both offensive
that's what gets me about this whole thing, THEY are assuming kris' gender just as much as we are only at least we're aware we're going against the grain here, those retards actually think they're doing something GOOD by making assumptions and declaring them canon

>>530818802
cool well the dude's voice annoys me so I'm not watching it, I'll trust you on your word

>>530818531
Giga Queen is totally based on White Diamond. It's not even hard to see if you look for a moment. It's cool that she is though because White Diamond is neat

>>530818495
A while back I posted about my schizo night terror where I saw an off model Sans face a dark void with the text "SANS , A " and then a terrifying feeling like there was a malevolent presence around me that caused me to wake up whimpering in fear. Around the time i had been getting scam phone calls spoofed to local area code numbers multiple times a day.

>>530818239
Deltatubers beyond music analysis/appreciation and TOP 40 THINGS YOU MISSED are whack and gay and their thwories are horrible and mine are based
I fuck with /utg/ so our theorists are based, too

>>530818908
This but also the crazy guy has to use a specific motif or it's fucking garbage

>>530818239
I finally have a de facto answer to this. They're obsessed with insisting Kris is non-binary based on the text in-game, so all you have to do is point out that Lancer specifically said "boys or girls" in chapter 1. Kris is explicitly male or female according to Lancer, so he/she can't be non-binary, and they're wrong for making such aggressive assumptions.

>>530800975
The lost children... eahc flower here is for the seven lost children...

Jockington's going to take his glasses off and he will be have one yellow eye and one pink eye and this will never be elaborated on.

>>530809338
Chronic case of trying to make the game boring as shit

Jevilbros, we're gonna get some BIG dividends next chapter, I feel it
Festival? Withiut the clown clowning around? Come on buddy
Spamtonfags sit DOWN

>>530818823
iunno man, sounds like you are perfectly sane but just have a good taste in music.
>https://youtu.be/SZvM347m-0Y?list=RDSZvM347m-0Y&t=45
nothing's bothering you but you got a tune stuck in your head.

i'd say you are far from my defeatist ass.

>>530819110
Lancer just doesn't know what a non binary is. That means the fandom just needs to educate him so that he can "be better".

>>530819159
Hotpants' name will be Mike and this will never be elaborated on

>>530818580
>Kris autismo and whatever happened to Dess made Noelle and Kriss put a wall in their relationship
Tragic. Maybe that's the appeal people see in those two?

https://lakendacoda.itch.io/underwheels
Can you get a pacifist run in this by only running over Sans?

>>530818239
Because self-inserting onto Kris is only bad except when its my identity or something.

>>530818216
Is really him?

>>530818495
i've got lost girl stuck in my head
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArtRuJiTYbI
chronic case of saddess

>>530819027
Um dont you mean the FREEDOM leitmotif?!?! Burgerpants_smoke.gif

>>530819283
You're not supposed to self insert into Kris at all. Chapter 4 was all about that. You're the SOUL, and Kris fucking hates you.

The droopy bits on the k ight's hand when it points? They're strings/cables

>>530819404
Well tell that to the people declaring him non-binary and not unconfirmed. I just went with what I expected is their true logic.

If Susie was a dude, how would you feel about Krusie, Suselle and Ralsus?

What do you guys think of Dessriel being one of the most popular ships now?

>>530819220
Why does Toriel let him dress like this?

>>530819514
The logic has changed a lot over the years, it used to be because "your choices don't matter", now it's because his family and the rest of the Light World NPCs call him a they therefore he must have adopted that as his identity.

>>530819626
I can't wait for Dess to turn out to be adopted like Kris and all of this fanart is null and void

Toby thought endless stream of minigames would make for a fun experience but then panicked after he saw how people didn't like FF7 Rebirth and rushed to scrap content.

>>530819567
All worse

>>530819404
It's forcible self-insert. Kris does not have to like it, I'll assimilate his/her life history into mine. You can even see this in letsplay YT videos, creators replace Kris with own avatars, kek.

>>530819567
There is no feminine energy emitting from Susie, so nothing changes

>>530819567
i'm fine with krusie in all its forms

>>530819779
Why do you guys write weird fanfiction about the guy who made the game
Seems kind of unhealthy

>>530806721
>Dark world flanders
What would he even look like

>>530819269
no

>>530818882
Thank you for reminding me to rock out to that banger today wtf was I thinking

You see, I just cant hate this game, yeah it's taking a decade, yeah there's a billion stuff to distract theorists into schizoism, but damn, damn the music and characters

>>530819626
something about it annoys me, maybe it's all the gay gotes i've been forced to witness over the years

>>530819585
Goofy gooter

>>530808014
Horrible implications.

>>530819159
Lmfao

>>530820046
>Asriel getting ready to cut two pies

>>530818495
tell us if you get your shadowcrystal, i want in

>>530819269
>cattenheimer covers up half the road
>and ALSO hides noelle who practically sprints into your car
no i don't think i will

>>530819626
>your opinion on Dessriel, Krusie etc. being popular
I only like Kress.

why is weird route Noelle so hot?

Kris was a happy-go-lucky kid until Dess.....

>>530820046
>>530819585
Wtf who is this ralsei oc

>>530819626
Not my preference because of the years of seeing Chara and Asriel college stuff.
Plus there's a part of me that wants one version of those dorks to be happy together since they're cursed with undeath in Undertale.

>>530818239
It’s weird to me because Frisk and Chara have always been “androgynous and with an ambiguous gender identity that allows you to come up with your own interpretation” but suddenly Kris, doing the same exact thing, is now actually non-binary no ifs or buts?
Even though the game itself just treats Kris’ gender like Frisk’s/Chara’s was in Undertale?

>>530820262
let me put the question around:
how do you feel about the normal route?

>>530820262
Why is she so off-model in this image. Find better art of her at the least

>>530818774
>>530818832
Those people are legitimately crazy. Hollow Knight's MC is it/he, crazy fans insist on "they/them". Nine-Tailed Okitsune Tale's MC is he/she, crazy fans insist on "they/them". They themselves can't even respect pronouns, and they have a gall to lecture other people.

>>530819110
kris is the or, duh

It's going to be a Final Fantasy VI style ending where the only thing that will change are the cutscenes you'll get in the end credits montage depending how many Shadow Crystals and eggs you collected.

>>530818495
*bops in place and joins anon providing backup humming*
Btw this is what im doing at the /utg/ meetup

>>530820262
Just look at her
Look close...

>>530819626
Gonna be awkward when it comes out how emotionally manipulative she was

Ralsei is not a goat because he never randomly climbs things #FACT

idk why people can't accept that Toby is woke and put a non-binary character as the protagonist of his game. It's OK to like something even if you don't agree with the creators politics.

>>530819626
I don't see that ship anywhere but here, but I don't go looking for art of those characters

I was gonna post about how we already saw Papyrus in game but it was a dream sorry guys

>>530820514
>Noelle will become strong
How does brain-breaking her serve the purpose of making her strong?

>>530819714
>True logic
I'm focusing as to why it matters to Twitter that Kris is non-binary, not how they're defending the idea he is. I'm saying they want to self-insert Kris via making him non-binary and then arguing from that endpoint.
>"Its not self-insert"
If they use or believe in "representation", yes it is. Not a bad thing until you try to police headcanons and proclaim your headcanon above all.

I was gonna post about how we already saw Dess in game but it was a hope sorry guys

>>530820625
undisclosed gender =/= nonbinary
All undertale humans also have unknown gender

>>530819469
you think its a robutt?

>>530820625
> It's OK to like something even if you don't agree with the creators politics.
what year are you living in you disingenuous fuck? this is a recipe to be doxxed for daring to like #problematic media, and i'm not even a chud

>>530820513
>at the /utg/ meetup
when are we meeting?

>>530820895
already did, no more meetups, you missed out

>>530820687
The whole bit in chapter 2 is related to december and noelle's relationship.

>>530820625
Susie does not ask Gerson's pronouns when she met him. Therefore the game is not woke.

>>530820625
>idk why people can't accept that toby is [headcanon]
Deltarune was in the early thought stages and had its main character long before "non-binary" was even a term for gender btw
Forcing an ideology onto the character by insisting he/she is "non-binary" is incredibly offensive btw

>>530820350
>Frisk and Chara have always been “androgynous and with an ambiguous gender identity that allows you to come up with your own interpretation”
Many people have been calling them nonbinary since 2015 using very similar reasons as for Kris. It took a while for the current consensus to form though.

>>530820443
>Hollow Knight's MC is it/he, crazy fans insist on "they/them".
I don't remember if the knight or other vessels are ever "they" but they're certainly never "he". There are even internal notes about this in the game files.

>>530820350
i think it's mainly due to a shift in gender politics becoming more important to people on the internet
something can't be 'indeterminate' anymore, it HAS to be given a label and it HAS to be shovelled down your throat as much as possible

>>530820979
oh okay

>>530820820
People still like FNAF despite Scott Cawthon's political views.

>>530820895
You missed this year's meetup bro, hope you can catch the next one. It was wild, shit was like walking through a minefield but instead of landmines it was gay sex