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Previous Thread >>530679856

>>530823058 (OP)
Crazy bitch eyes.

WOAH NEW CHARCATER IS FREAKING BONKERS!!!!
LETS GOOOOOO
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOO

>>530823058 (OP)
Human nin getting caught in a trap and being embarrassed her ninja skills cant save her!

Is the new samurai good? Not sure if I want to reinstall for her if there's still no content.

>>530823426
Yeah we know the dorf is great

>get 7 BP STR boon nameless ninja
>name her Rika
>can see her panties 90% of the time
It's all coming together. My waifuzardry. Too bad her inherit is bonkers.

Human nin's bondmate stat is speed, hopefully she's easier to heart than fucks like Philip. Only problem is she's going to need longer in the exp mines to get to bronze.

*lives rent free inside your head*

>MASKETTO
>I'M COMIN' TA KILL YOU

Where is my bishop fairy.

>>530824238
fairies aren't real

So I finally graduated from being a f2p to a filthy wallet warrior by buying the single whale bone and got pic related. What a bittersweet feeling. Wonder if it's rigged.

>>530824583
>Spent the guaranteed wallet pull on brick cat

>>530824583
the sword is an unironic brick if you aren't bringing it to +20

>>530824808
10 is good and not a brick.

>>530823606
One of the few useful adventurer bondmates. Seriously most +5 stats are worthless. Luck isn't available and only Speed really feels like it makes a difference.

>>530825120
You could've tried making the cope less obvious.

>>530824238
ninjas released jan 30, so come back in 5+ months.

>>530824583
Nice, show sword.

https://youtu.be/WS4qVWeyiEE
>he skipped troll ring
OH NO NO NO
CANT WHEEL BACK THIS CAN YOU

>>530825120
it's "good" but a 4* exquisite katana shits on it

>upgrade steel gauntlets
>+3 MAG
>Can't change it
Why? Seriously?

>>530825462
It's not pretty. Definitely looks like a brick to me.

>>530825480
knight bros...

>>530825668
ouch, at least it was only one bone. I'm really surprised they fuck over spenders this hard and don't make it 3 star/blue at least.

>>530825480
Can't you do that w/o the ring?

>>530825480
cat is a brick anyway
https://x.com/natuyukiabc/status/1943577127430897738
loses instantly to DWORVEN COCK

>>530825890
no because you need more than 1 HP to stay on 1 HP

>>530825480
Lingering Blossom states that she "MIGHT" persevere with 1 HP
this looks like a bug that Drecom will fix in 1-2 months after her banner is gone

>>530825480
So the persevere chance on her is 100%? Pretty dope if so.

>>530826307
>>530826379
It's 100% for her, sub-100 if inherited

>>530826307
Only if you report it. Don't be like the anon that bricked FAS.

>>530825480
>when you got all the troll rings and didn't unify them so more characters can use them
Hahahahahaha.

>>530826379
Guaranteed immortality is pretty good indeed

>>530825947
>million buffs
>stance switching, picking correct element
>only 10k damage
yawn

>>530826379
Don't worry. The next abyss will introduce a new enemy debuff called frostbite, where you can't heal until you remove the debuff first.

>>530826752
now post cat doing more than 2x3k

>>530825480
Can dwarf do this too? I'm behind on what their differences are

cat is a brick lmao
you suck
you play bad and stink
heck yoU!!!

Look how pristine Chloe looks after a good cleaning; she's practically shining.

>>530827065
still stinky beastfolk

>>530826971
Dwarf cannot due to not having the cat's unique skill. But anybody inheriting her skill could possibly do this.

>>530825576
You can change only single blessing

>>530826971
No, dwarf has only unique passive that increases damage if he deals elemental weakness damage
Meanwhile kot has 2 active abilities
One is taunt that leaves her at 1hp next turn if she has above 1hp
The other is super attack that deals 30k damage but can only be used once per combat
>>530826918
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HAmj_8UBViM

>>530827370
Sir that is not 30k

>>530827370
>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HAmj_8UBViM
>500 HP on lvl42
that is a discipline 200 Shiou

>>530827654
Uhhh gwo, discipline don't matter, inheritance don't matter
If he can do it, anyone can.

>>530827370
>>530827305
Damn. Oh well, Dwarf will be D9 someday and she wouldn't be if I rolled on her as F2P. It's too bad limiteds are like this, I wonder if they'll QoL in a new Disc system after QoLing everything else...

>>530827752
he probably has a +20 katana too
let me guess that doesn't matter too

>>530825480
B&B rerun soon gwos

>>530827370
>Lvl 7 skill
>Buffs used:
>Rebelious prayer lvl 6 (alice)
>Rebelious prayer lvl 1 (redbeard)
ah ok then

>>530827909
sauce?

>>530828052
After Savia rerun and mage proving grounds
It was revealed to me in a dream

>look back at old thread
>see newfag getting saddled with boon autism off the bat
You retards, none of that matters at the beginning, just say 'don't Discipline or Inherit yet until you understand everything'

>>530828052

>>530828243
boon doesn't matter at all it's 0.1% autism
it's the same as replacing a single refinement on one of your equipment with +1 surety

>>530828243
it doesn't matter but if you don't tell newfags that they'll get perfectionist autism later
>t. >>530823726

>woah tzalikman is BUSTED, look at 9000 damage
<but your shitty f2p neutral man can only deal 1000 damage with
>woah nigger look at DROWGA, he can deal 5000 damage!
<your shitty f2p drowga can deal maybe 800 damage (usually misses)
>woah xister look at this dumb fucking cat samurai, she can deal 8000 damage!
<...

>>530828513
They aren't going to get a perfect character on a fresh reroll anyway so that is inevitable. Also it doesn't matter besides the tag loss as long as you don't Disc/Inherit anything.

>boon doesn't matter
>discipline doesn't matter
>ignore gacha weapons
>skill level doesn't matter, lvl1 is better anyway
>uhhh why you can't do 20k hit? You must have severe skill issue

>>530828701
>Me when i say things that never happened

>>530828685
A decently geared neutralman with 0 discipline does more than 1k damage lol

All you need to do is to enjoy the adventure.
>CASTS FIST
Another quest completed.

do I do it?

I'm about to roll

>>530829020
elfmag gwo your response?

>>530829020

>>530829640
Maybe ? What are the benefits ?

Where did you guys spend BP on the kot? I'm debating between SPD or IQ

>>530826150
Sl why can't you just inherit self-healing onto the cat?

>>530831086
because it takes 1 turn to activate

>>530831217
So you activate it before the stance?

>>530831339
that's still -1 turn to activate gwo
not to mention it only lasts 3 turns unless you alice her
sounds like a lot of trouble instead of just using the fucking ring

>>530831054
4/3 STR/IQ. After that, STR/IQ/SPD were all at 17.

What does upgrading lingering blossom do? Does it increase the taunt rate?

>>530831226
doctor when he sees dean cum inside yeka

>>530831495
Wait, I thought you didn't want to Alice her.

>>530829640
What does it even do?

>>530831054
STR - f2pkek
IQ - whalekek
SPD - retardgwo

>>530825480
Another thing, is the counter stance of samurai guaranteed dodge? So if I feed Agora to the cat she can goes like unique skill (with 2T taunt)> survive > use Iai counter stance(guaranteed dodge?) > survive > unique skill again & loop. Potentially a pretty good tank in boss?

>>530831495
Surely she isn't getting hit every turn. You don't absolutely need the ring, but I can see how it helps.

>>530831842
around +40% damage on lvl3
SP cost increases from 24 to 40

>>530831741
Why wouldn't you want to? I can't see how it would hurt

>>530832107
Alicecoins are hard to come by

>>530832107
it extends the taunt duartion too
if you get hit twice you're fucked

>>530832514
Sure but it's the same idea as giving Alice to Savia no? You actually want to extend the taunt if she can dodge/tank it. Is the 1hp survival thing a one time thing? Maybe the evasion boost she gets from surviving is big.

Is the new Sam cat worth it at D0/D1 or withount leveling her skill?

I feel like I don't want to roll for any new characters becuase you have to level their unique skill to lv3 before they actually become better than anything you already have built up. Will Dreamcom fix this issue in the future? I think it's only becoming more apparent and discourages you from rolling new banners. Plus the inherits...

>>530832514
But you can counter both turns right?

>>530833070
They are giving a little more generic exp tomes, but that's about it.

>>530825480
this will be patched by tomorrow

>auto run up to a chest in ninja cave
>game crashes when I'm not looking
>log back in
>stuck on the chest and can't move

Very nice.

>>530833797
no they will wait to sell her, it will be "bugfixed" after you can't pull for her

>>530834346
And they will also not announce it on patch note, just like many other stealth changes.

How are the boons for my Alice? Can boons even be seen on this screen?

I ran into a gigga goblin on the first floor and it was one-shotting anything he hit (sometimes did a sweep). For the second kind of enemy that's rough. I'm not sure what to expect going forward.

>>530812752
The point was made clear that I should not try to revive under 50 fort. I went to the church and revived already but they didn't mention this nuance at all. Does this ever get mentioned or is it just trial an error? If it is, it's not the 80s anymore and I'd feel sorry for the players losing legos to it.

>>530814463
I guess I'll have a look over some of the more interesting characters and create a party that I'll stick with. Thanks!

>>530814981
This fucking game...
Why do knights and fighters like luck? Why do chest opening thieves like IQ? Class change? Where are the tutorials for this shit?

>>530815208
>Hook of Harken
Huh? Is that a warp back to town?

>>530834951
dex boon Alice
useless

>>530834951
She has dex shit I'm sorry I.V.

This site has base stats for all adventurer combos.

https://wizardry-daphne.mcwild.net/init_status/

>>530831680
Since this is Drecom, it’s best to wait and see if the survive with 1 HP rate on it bugged or not before leveling it.

>>530834951
>Why do knights and fighters like luck?
counter attack and follow-up attacks
>Why do chest opening thieves like IQ
IQ increases your trap detection
>Class change?
most characters (not all) can class change to another class
which class is it is predetermined
for example lana can class change to fighter (and you should if you get her skillbook from the shop)
you need to check the gem shop weekly to snipe for a class change for characters you use
have you heard how general adventurers are really good?
Benjamin is fucking OP because he has the best class change in the game (thief)
thiefs get a passive that makes them hit x2 on their surety hits instead of x1.75
you should only worry about class changes after you're lvl60 and cleared all main content
but you should check the weekly shop just in case you get lucky

>>530834951
Luck increases chance of activating skills. Fighters have skills like followup and counterattack that luck affect. So in a sense, boosting luck will increase damage more than boosting STR.
Thieves want IQ to detect traps. If they are retarded they won't detect the traps. DEX makes it easier to disarm the trap.

I am going to make Rinne my main chest unlocker (once I get her a thief class change book)!!!

>>530835214
So if I'm using that correctly Lana has a piety boon? Is that good? Also is all this for just 1 stat point? Does it really factor into things that heavily, especially after considering equipment?

>>530835609
>counter attack and follow-up attacks
That sounds good. What kind of spread would you want on then, then?
>most characters (not all) can class change to another [predetermined] class
Ugh. so you only have one choice for the character? Is it the same all the time or is id RNG what class the get? Like hidden power in Pokemon (I think I don't know that game too well either)? Is it always worth changing classes? Can you change back and forth between them?
>have you heard how general adventurers are really good?
No, I came in completely blind.
>Benjamin is fucking OP because ... thief
Looks like my above question is answered.

>>530835615
So much info to find out and I'd be mand if I was using a "bricked" character.
The more I learn the more bad design decisions I'm seeing.

>>530836963
I could jerk off to this picture

>>530836995
that is a piety boon Lana
it's mostly useless, but could get some minor use out of something like Sanctuary's blessing
>Ugh. so you only have one choice for the character? Is it the same all the time or is id RNG what class the get? Like hidden power in Pokemon (I think I don't know that game too well either)? Is it always worth changing classes? Can you change back and forth between them?
all characters can change into 1 other class that's predetermined, you just have to find their class change in the weekly shop
im sure if you post it some anon will guide you if you should get anything
elise has a knight class change
benjamin has a thief class change
alice has a mage class change
lana has a fighter class change
these are usually the most valuable ones

>>530836963
Gwo your $19.99…

>>530838036
dont worry I class changed my region to japan and only paid half

>>530838340
Can I get a QRD?

>>530838884
gwo...

So after all this gruesome sand cave farming, what do you have to prove it was worth it? Do you even have an exquisite katana or covert kunai worth using?

Is four scales the best tier of junk in the ninja cave?

>>530840085
I haven’t been grinding since it’s too hot.

So I got Rinne when I reinstalled a couple weeks back but have not made any progress since reinstalling. Just got Shiou. I also got Abenius before I uninstalled. I have multiple copies of all of the standards, as well.

People here were saying advanced classes are a pain in the ass to level up. Most of my dudes are only level 20 or 30.

Who should I focus on here? I haven't even gotten the true ending from the first dungeon...

>>530834951
Dude, ignore the retards dogpiling you with boon autism, all you need to do is not use the Discipline or Inherit systems before you understand everything in the game (ie. much much later after clearing a couple abysses) and you won't lose anything or FOMO. You can just build a booned version of whoever you like much later as long as you don't waste Disciplines and Inherits on them beforehand, which you never need to do to beat anything except optional endgame shit.

The only advice for new players should be thus:
-Reroll for 2 out of 3: Yeka/Alice/Lana
-Roll Neutral if you want to be eligible for most row/column buffs from other characters (there's probably a guide on fasterthoughts)
-Don't rez at the Church below 50 Fort
-Don't use Discipline or Inherit until you've played the game a long time and understand everything
There, now you can play however you want with whoever you want at your own pace and have fun, and compartmentalize the autistic parts for later, at no cost.

>>530840354
four scales isn't the tier, it's the partial type of junk(name of location is the rest).

The tiers seem to be nothing>commonplace>fey , and there's both fey four scales and heat haze apparently >>530535517.

>>530840679
Speedrun to floor 4 in 3rd dungeon, it will unlock 2 man dispatches that give 300k exp per 12 hours
Then put Rinne and Shiou in dispatch for next month to make her lvl60
You rike?

>>530840973
Abyss 2 has a similar dispatch that isn't much worse, think you need to reach the docks for it.

Do people store XP even when they aren't grade uncapped

>>530841301
Yes, exp only fully stops being earned when you hit the current max level cap.

>Catacombs bone respawned
No... don't make me go back there...

>>530840953
Oh, I thought it'd be like the events, as in four scales, 5 rings, whatever.

>>530840936
Thanks, I'm aware of all those things. Lets see how far I can get with my shitty team!

>>530841391
So when leveling a new character should I just not uncap them? Makes it more convenient and I can rest at inns without worry.

>>530842025
Yes, especially if trying to level up a lower level character since you get a 50% EXP bonus if you’re 5-10 levels lower than the you’re fighting.

>>530841470
already? I was missing 2 bones

>>530842025
if it's a extra character and not your main team, yes because keeping them capped at 20-40 is best because they'll get bigger exp bonuses.

>>530842025
that's the meta option
If I like a character I just put them in my party. They're usually holding their own at 25-30 and actually more than useable at 35+. Only Eva really matters anyways while you're farming and you get that from gear. I had a lvl 45 Mage alice an lvl 34 Rinne in my party when I fell the guarda gwo

What do you think about inheriting survival passives like Sanctuary's blessing and Way of the knight to Samurais ? I'm kinda tempted to do it since they tend to draw hits but on the other hand they already have built-in survival, maybe it's best to prioritize squishier classes

>>530842628
>Sanctuary's blessing
Maybe to Dorf, but kot has only 38 piety at lvl60
Not first priority at least and priests and mages should get them first. You get dupe per month, so at worst it will take 6 months to eventually inherit it to her, as long as you don't dump her before that
>Way of the knight
Sure, but both dorfs and beasts have low luck. Still better than nothing, but they are also very tanky, 500 base hp

>>530833070
I have all my adv at disc 0/1. If you like her then sure.

>>530842628
They have to die to proc skill. Having multiple damage reductions make it harder for the skill to activate.

>>530842325
You're probably thinking of Mausoleum, a much friendlier place patronized by much more civilized undead

>>530840973
>>530841207
Sounds good enuff

To roll or not to roll
I have about a spark and a half right now
What if they drop something really good soon...

>>530845197
What's better than a cat samurai?!

>>530845394
2 cat samurais

>>530845394
a fox samurai

>>530845394
Summer Micro Bikini Bishop Asha

I need to farm 2 kat for the cat?

>>530845953
HOLY!!!!!!!!!

>>530845394
A samurai pizza cat

>roll 150 bones
>0 Bugens
>4 Debras
>3 Gerulfs
>like 15 Daniels
help

this is a +10 katana white exquisite katana with +5-+10 garbage armors
holy shit

>>530846816

>>530846816
I have a feeling softcap is pretty easy to reach for this skill, and it scales not that much
Pretty sad if so

WHY WON'T YOU ACKNOWLEDGE ME

>>530838340
???? Show prices

>>530846816
Whew

>>530846816
>lvl 30
what the hell

>>530850639
>>530850594
this is her gear
she is D2 and has way of the warrior and a couple no-name inherits but nothing crazy, everything is lvl1

Gwo bondmate farming probably will be comfy with kot
But imagine future powercreep though, probably looking at 100k hp bossfights minimum

>>530846816
Weaker than neutral man.
Weaker than MC with Fist inherit.
I guess she is good for latelets.

Is there any place where arcane staves drop with proper potential? Can only seem to be able to drop super trashy ones.

>>530852579
lol enjoy your 1k tzaliks

>>530852871
Post your neutralman doing 1k tzaliks

>take off all gear
>1k tzalik

My tzalikman's tzalik does like 700 dmg...

>>530846816
This is the kind of thing that has a ton of setup and can go wrong against harder bosses, right?

>>530856000
that like 200.
tzalik is a fucking meme

I thought Tzalik was busted though
Is it not worth it to save my gems for rerun?

>>530856405
Remember same coping during Tzalikman release?

>>530856405
>ton of setup
Her aggro skill gets her hit and then she's in proper HP range if you're fighting something scary
Braindead easy, but it won't work against some bosses I suppose

f2p d0 tzalikman here. All it takes is a little mental unity/caldia setup to get decent numbers.

your husbando sucks

>>530856405
even if you don't do that you can just change stance(normal attack) into bamboo splitter every turn(fps spam)
samurai damage is just high in general

Holy, I was malding at 200 pulls for only 4 Shiou's (2 sparked), but then I got my ideal Lana

>>530855832
That's with his off hand. He was feeling merciful.

>>530858042
Bosskiller meta will be Tzalikman + Sheli with Tzalik + cat samurai + dwarf samurai

>>530860917
Where's Berk? Her spell is super powerful.

>>530858042
It's still 1/3rd of the damage of the catmurai... powercreep is real, bros...

>>530861193
Berk requires a ton of investment for her skill to be good while everyone else there is a good bosskiller out of the box (minus sheli who needs tzalik or some other high level elemental magic skill)

>700 online
Why did it flop?

>>530861323
Uhh gwo just do FPS 7 times(14 turns) to catch up one catmurai katana slash, it's not that bad
>Catmurai could slice through castle plant in one turn
Really makes you think
She still can miss though, right?

>>530861543
Those bosses probably have too much surety resistance

>>530861747
Have wait to see how she performs against 0 corruption GWO and Morgus to be sure

>>530859213
>200 pulls
WhaleGOD

>>530861419
There's literally no content right now, anon

>>530862337
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HAmj_8UBViM
Hopefully this guy will take her there
>she did 30k damage to helmut
lol

I finished Abyss 2 and Amelia and Alice got their womb tattoos but Shelli didn't. Does it require 2 GWO kills to get?

>>530864792
In my experience, yes.

>>530864843
Can I just wheel and kill Melgina again?

>>530864964
I think they have to be different, so go fight Helmut again

>>530864964
Gotta be two different ones.
I took Shelli to kill Octo like 4 times and it didn’t appear.

>>530865162
>>530865395
Thanks!

Would you eat the Sheli hole or S hole for short?

>>530867586
Love Sheli.
Hate Advanced classes.

>>530844035
i really appreciate this artist.
well, any of them that have stuck around really.
kemonono pulled Shiou, so maybe we'll get something from them too

>>530826523
Yeah when i fought the dragon my entire front line had dragonslayers/trollkin rings. Seemed more intelligent than having one guy with a slightly better dragonslayer while everyone else gets owned.

>>530836995
Piety increases the heal from self-healing if you're into that.

Any boon is better than no boon. It's actually 1 stat point every 10 levels, so 7 stat points in total at level 60. A boon is worth more than being 10BP.

>>530843539
>Disc 9.
How much spend?

>>530861419
I play on tablet

>>530871813
I couldn't possibly fathom grinding that event that much
I only got one dragonslayer lol

Has anyone gotten the B1F Death Stench quest to respawn after Wheeling during this update? I don't see it after a Fresh Start or jumping to Major Harken or Abyss 2 anymore. Pretty sure that's one of the monthly bones, too.

>>530834951
>Huh? Is that a warp back to town?
Yes, the Hook returns you to town. You may never need it now, but I still won't risk it, so thought I'd mention it.

>>530871985
isnt it 1 point every 10 levels after 30?

>>530874706
During this update? Not yet. But normally you need to go and visit abbyss on your feet before jumping forward

>>530876029
No, it starts at lvl 1, because that's how we know their boons in the first place.

>>530861419
Banners are not content.

Dead

>land crit
>Wana
>"Impressive, you fill me with pride
feels good being a real ninja

I feel like Quickdraw stance is being slept on. It seems like you can pull off some shenanigans with that skill alone.

>>530880807
I won't know until the end of next week at my current pace, still got 8m to go

>>530879792
John Drecom thinks otherwise

>only have 28k jims left in the tank
We need more game breaking bugs

>>530882432
Why is Tzalikman so upset

>>530884256
Their charm is making him feel something other than neutral.

>>530884392
Strong feelings one way or the other are the downfall of an adventurer.

>>530823606
Thank fuck after 2 vivianas and 1
philip i was dreading the rest.
This will be easy

>>530884392
My sides

>>530825480
My troll ring js +20 attack sur sur eva.
Its chilling

Which path is best to start with for abyss 3?

>>530884634
How are you guys farming nameless bondmates? I've managed to get one elfmag, but I've given up on the second one after fighting Helmut and Octo a bunch of times each. I've had her in an all good, neutral, evil party and still no mark. I've even tried taking her to iron grade and lvl 50, but still nothing.

>>530886429
B7 camp trick, fail vhest, rest, have same character team

>>530886429
I tried training two at once, beat Helmut and Octo, one got heart and the other didn't. Spammed a few camps with the other (maybe a dozen) and they got it. I don't get it.

>>530886429
>promote to bronze
>kill helmut
>kill octo
>set all party to all have the same alignment(MC doesnt matter)
>talk at camp
>fail a trap
>talk at bar
>give the answer they like

>>530886852
>>530887051
>>530887202
I wasn't sure those worked for nameless adventurers since they don't speak and thus wouldn't have camp or tavern interactions. I'll try it later and hopefully finally be freed.

>>530886186
Princes

RINNE PLEASE HIT THE LEVEL CAP! Why did I uncap you!?

>>530888483
You obviously need some regulars so they trigger dialogs

Bugen > Shiou

>>530888483
They won't speak, but dialogs from other characters boost their favor anyway.

beastfolk are only good as meat toilets

[...]

>>530891394
>more fanart of the nameless nin than the legendary sam
shiougwos...

>>530891589
she's very cute and very simple, it makes sense

Nameless were a mistake. Mr. Drecom, please, make them into standards.

>>530892178
She's fucking evil

>>530893126
it makes even more sense

>>530893126
Built for Big Good Cock

>>530823426
So, str or spd?

How long until the consensus on Shiou goes from BROKEN to BRICK?

>no cat from $6 jeweler bones
>no dwarf from 200 normal bones
Go on without me... I'll be waiting in the Ossuary...

Do the sentries come back after you leave the abyss or are they on a timer?

>>530897180
When they give I get to unzip my katana.

Is there some specific floor on the first abyss where I can get those alignment prompts to appear more frequently? I think I've only seem one since the update that supposedly made them actually do something

>oh boy, a new character
>can't wait to play them in 2weeks when they finish mining
Man, I wish there was some sort of arena with back-to-back fights for exp grinding. No loot, no chests, no currencies, hell, make it so they don't count for passes and shit, just let me fight shit without having to run around and whatnot while letting me play with my new toy.

>>530874706
You have to run down to the b1 harken after fresh start to get it to spawn.

>>530897710
No enemies respawn until you leave.

>>530840973
Don't those dispatches need at least one high level character for it not to fail?

>>530898494
Those are the multi-wave enemy requests.
Quit before the last wave and you can refight the previous ones with 0 downtime.
Lingering scent from the 1st abyss gives ~7.6k exp for sub 30 chars for it's first wave and can be easily beaten in 1 round with a abyss 3 party.

I'm about to blow all my rolls on Shiou

oops typo meant load, not rolls

Just pulled a Shiou and Lanavaille, along with two Bugens. Time to shove Shiou into the tavern and only ever use daddy Bugen as my samurai.

Killing a random generic adventurer to become a Ninja is so lame. They should make you do something truly evil like shaving a tied up dwarf.

>>530909823
Yeah they at least should've required you to max bond 'em to get that real betrayal vibe.

>Good quest for Lord
>you're at the bottom of the ninja pit
>have to catch the sacrificed adventurer and revive them

>Failed disenchants give refinement stone fragments now
>I have 1000s of old junk I didn't bother to clear
On the one hand, that's big stonks because now I won't get literally nothing for most of that junk. On the other hand, I have to reverse 1000s of junk...

>>530909823
Has it made anybody's character become evil?

>Doing mausoleum
>Daniel randomly has 22 less fortitude than the others
D-daniel? You ok, bud?

>>530912157
I'd assume yes
It turned me from good into neutral and now I'm hanging out heals to pleading enemies to repent

>crits with normal spells

>>530912708
Didn't somebody mention that becoming a Ninja flags your account or something? Or was that bullshit? I guess maybe it to force you to choose between advanced classes while still allowing you the flexibility to change your alignment for certain passives. Though they'd have to implement a way for people to forget Ninja skills to become a Lord or something, and it's 50/50 odds Drecom just straight up deletes your character be accident.

>>530913646
they datamined a "did ninjer evil business" flag but there's no concrete evidence that it's implemented, and if it is, it does jack shit right now. John Drecom usually have ways to unbrick choices too. You ARE a time travelling Dark Souls guy essentially, something like morality isn't really a problem to you. All I'm reading is that I'm getting more content than ninjer skippers

>>530912115
It's nothing. 500 shards for 3* enchant.
Well I guess it's better than nothing. Wish that you could merge lesser * into bigger stars.

>>530914069
Dunno. It may be not implemented yet.

>>530913646
Doesn't the ninja guy say that he'll call you when you're needed? Maybe it's to trigger a quest later down the line.

>accidentally scapped a steel kunai
aiiiieee I needed that for rinne's offhand unity

Also
>dual wielding atk stats apply to only that weapon
that's bullshit, this means you want to stack atk on every other piece and for weapon you just stack universal stats like sure or evasion or something

i got an STR boon and a SPD boon catass
which one should I use?

>>530914447
spd
str is +1 damage per hit and kot dual scales so it's worth even less a little bit, kinda
But whichever has higher fort/bp is fine too

Are nameless adventurers worth investing into as a f2player? I'm looking more so at human-nin and D9 stats. I just can't take the thought of having to switch my main team for the third time.

>>530915097
>no class change
never

>>530915097
>human-nin and D9 stats
You aren't going to have that for a very long time and she's always going to be subpar to other ninjas

>>530915097
I mean if you really like their design then go for it. Just don't delude yourself into thinking they'll be top tier, lest you become another Elf-Mag warped one.

>>530914435
It's possible this gets changed down the line, but it doesn't seem likely. The last dual-wielding rework removed the element/slayer bonus from one dagger from applying to all attacks in the sequence, so it seems like Drecom is trying to keep things consistent to "bonuses apply to only the dagger it's on". And yes, you want to stack +ATK on clothing and put +EVA on daggers instead.

>>530915097
As other posters have noted the lack of a class change and no bonus passive means they'd need further investment to diversify their skill set. You need a lot more copies to get to D9, and the stat growth from each discipline level is not as high as the jumps that legendaries get at lower levels.
That being said, they can give you certain class-element combinations that can help a lot with certain bosses or content (excluding the MC who can be anything, of course). For example there are no other Water Fighters aside from Livana or class-changing Flut. Human-Nin is the only Wind Ninja (and only non-Dark Ninja so far), Elf-Pri is the only Dark Priest aside from Red Beard, etc.

>>530915097
Not really. I mean with enough Discipline(like50+) dupes and inherits you can male her strong but in general it's not cost effective compared to class changes

>>530917346
>you can male her strong
Oh yeah I can hehehehehehehe if you know what I mean hehehehehehehe

japanese vote on Shiou metafaggotry
>rating with dupes
>rating without dupes
>should you pull for her? (yes, without hesitation, maybe, not pulling, waiting for next character's info)

Will John Drecom ever fix the pc version resolution? Probably not.

>>530918491
those ratings are always a popularity vote unless the character is undecisively dogshit and I doubt nips are immune to that train of thought. They could be 2 tiers below/above the most voted ones usually

>>530918491
same shit but for adam

Do I roll or not
YOU DECIDE

>>530918678
no, it's not enough that I should be OP, other should be weak

Pro advice:
Roll 11 on every new banner.

If I switch Kiriha to Fighter but he already has Heavy Attack Level 3 what happens?

>>530918740
he gets HA lvl 4

>>530918704
So I should roll!

>>530918724
that's a terrible advice. you should roll 100 or 0 for the pity

>>530918678
evens roll
odds save

Does Faewood Armor work with the ninja passive? I still don't know exactly how it works. Is clothing only accounted for the chest piece?

>>530918781
Only if you're a pussy boy

>>530918795
I posted evens so I guess I gotta roll

>>530918760
Oh shit that changes how I level up my characters then. Should've minmaxed my MC beforehand.

>>530918857
I get the feeling you came into this with a preferred outcome

>>530918678
I see beastfolk girl, I roll, simple as.

>>530918905
not really, skills from CC is always a flat +1 so it doesn't matter if you get HA lvl 1 then use books to get lvl 3 or vice versa. The total exp books needed for both cases are the same

ufff I'm feeling the lack of items to stack blessings on sammy. Shes running a +15 katana and she's still losing out on about 60-80 damage compared to my horny benis since she has a shield and the fighter ring. Not to mention a fuckton more surety

i wanna do ninger cave true ending
do I have to fail once and then do it right immediately after? I can't seem to be able to wheel back

>>530921371
You fail and then just do it again, yeah. No wheeling.

fuck I was so close

>>530922373
>already dead
>still lose additional fortitude

>>530922521
They're still disappoint that their leader got chumped.

cucksucking ningers easiest fight of my life
shiou is actually useless here lmao

Memento Cor

dont tell me you used lingering blossom and got focus jugular'd every time for it

no i went into counter-attack stance, got confused and then she proceeded to auto-attack the whole fight because I couldn't afford to cure her

>i went into counter-attack stance
Truly a beastfolx warrior

>>530922373
Bring knight.

bwo. . . .he already finished the fight. . .

>>530924584
She look terrible.wish she get some armor

For some reason, when I requested a bunch of anons as friends and left the guild, my three frontliners were dead and had negative HP. When I logged out earlier they were fine. Any idea what the hell happened there?

>>530927283
where is your cleric?

>>530927283
holy SOVL

>>530886429
1.Level 30 uncapped(as in capable of going to 40)
2. Helmut+octo

Thats literally it for every nameless ive done. Piss easy shit.

Dont need to spam grind camps+taverns like named

>>530927283
Brick god

>>530927283
Your gerulf?

>>530918565
>I doubt nips are immune to that train of thought
They are definitely not. It's no different from any other shit tier list. They're entranced by her BIG DICK DAMAGE, and forget that samurai is completely fucking useless outside of lengthy boss fights.

>>530922373
Bring 2 mages and ignore evasion bwi

>>530930339
>>530927283

Meant gerard. So shitty cant get his name right

Waiting for priest book for Abenis :-D, to brick her even more.

Is there a use for Ixion's handkerchief? It gets selected for sellable trash and it's worth 100k but it's not tagged as [sell for gold]. Does feel scummy selling it desu.

>>530930348
Just going by early numbers I’ve seen myself Samurai seem to consistently out damage fighters at similar gear and skill levels even without the meme 6k attack.

Anyone gotten a good Katana? This is the best i've gotten so far, still pretty shit.

>>530931627
I got a Blue 4 Star from the daily junk in Guarda with Atk and Mag%.

I quit in December. But has the story progressed in any way? Are we closer to Lulunarde's feet?

>>530933207
There’s another full abyss, not a lot of story progression in there though.

Came back after taking a break for a month or two. Did they patch out the knowledge menu freezing enemies bug? I can't get it to work anymore...

>>530931771
that's only refined, not exquisite

>>530934000
Yes, I’m retarded and can’t remember words anymore.
Please understand.

>>530933207
Yes, No
>>530933783
Yes

>>530933207
I quit in December as well and came back a few days before Livana's banner ended, so around a month ago? .Have been having fun with all the caves and the third abyss being quite the difficulty jump. The first hours were rough until I got some expulsion weapons going. Can easily run the third abyss now but the perfect ending difficulty still feels very rough and i did grind quite a lot for all of this. The third abyss adds a few gimmick and the story barely throws you a few lines by the end about the Abyss Lord.

fairybro will die of old age before she is ever released...

question about Benjamin, the dwarf. and dwarves in general.
Would you recommend investing boon AND bonus points into SPD to make Benjamin act faster, despite his race? or is it a lost cause and it's better to invest in STR with dwarves?

>>530938541
yeah SPDmaxx on EVERYONE
literally cannot go wrong

>>530938541
Dwarves can be faster than everyone else in the arty as long as you give them equipment with speed blessings

>>530938541
From my point of view speed makes more sense to invest in.
10 Bonus Points in STR translating to ~12 Atk has a lot less of an impact long term when you’re looking at Atk values well over 200 compared to 10 Bonus Points in Speed translating to ~8? Action Speed when you’re aiming to have in the ballpark of 60-70 for characters that aren’t mages or thieves.

>>530899568
You can do it with lower levels, you just need one of them able to heal.

>>530899568
i'm doing it with both samurais at lvl 20 and it doesnt fail
you just have to gear them up with stuff and put potions, scrolls and antitoxis on their inventories

is there a spending guide?
i want a d3 shiou and im only 1 copy off but idk which pack to buy

>>530940143
spending guide is to not spend
the packs are extremely overpriced and the only stuff that isnt whale priced is the $2 and $20 pack

Everything else is literally a ripoff
Even by then if you want to spend, do it through the https://store.wizardry.info/ to get a few extra jims

>>530938541
It's always speed in every case but your dedicated chest opener.

>>530940354
ehh you're right im basically making the game easier hence less fun if im spend
its just really irritating to be 1 copy off d3 because it's twice as strong as d2
that's how they get you huh

>>530940143
The 1/10/20/30 bones for cash packs are the most cost effective.
After that, the weekly 1~5 dollar packs that have some green gems in them, as well as limited mission passes are basically the most cost effective options.

Holy crap I forgot to finish the musoleum

>>530939694
Just stack them with 150hp potions

>>530941716
it still haven't reset

Do I have to beat the second dungeon before I can farm samurai weapons?

>>530941716
Why delay? I always do it in first few days.

>>530941938
samurai weapons can drop anywhere now from random ninja adventurer encounters
best place to farm it is sand shadow cave
it unlocks after you unlock abyss 3 and do the scripted gatekeeper fight

>>530941778
I completely forgot they use potions(despite both my normal dispatch teams being loaded with them) because they always have priests and I only look at the events log to see how they all died to gorgon's breath.

>>530942015
The fortitude hit in case I want to play that day

>>530941938
I think you can find lower tier ninja and Sam items now on general loot.

>>530941778
Do they consume the potions (in that I actually lose them) when they do?
Or do they somehow benefit from them without consuming them?

>>530942103
just do it before bed gwo

Got two Shious one with Speed IV (8BP) and another with Luck IV (7BP). Does anyone know if luck does anything for Samurai?

>>530942141
They don't get consumed.

>>530942141
The Guild covers for all dungeoneering expenses (you don't lose the potions)

>>530942019
>it unlocks after you unlock abyss 3 and do the scripted gatekeeper fight
In short. I do indeed need to beat the second dungeon.

>>530942194
not much unless you inherit fua and counter and even then it's iffy because her luk growth is in the gutter
speed is better and it's got more bp. You know what to do

>>530942194
no because FuA doesn't work on her stance changes
also explode

>>530942194
Depends on how much they wind up regular attacking and if the skills that make them regular attack can proc follow up attacks.

>>530941716
Got it done just in time

>>530941716
I haven't touched it since they fixed the infinite bones bug

why do people bondmate farm companions?
do they not take up a slot? +4/+5 to a stat if they take up a slot sounds kinda ass NGL when there are bondmates who give like +30 HP

>>530927283
I-I... I KNEEL.

>>530944231
There aren't enough good bondmates anyway since you can't apply the same one to all 6 members.
Too many situational X resistance bondmates so you might as well grind up some stat boosts even if they are minor.

Should I feed Alice to Savia?

>Oh yeah I use Alice Lana and Benjamin in my Wizardry Variants Daphne party. They are absolutely cracked.

>>530942103
Just do it in all go with reserve team or before session ending.
>>530942141
No. You get them back free

>>530941716
Fuck. Me too.
I only managed to get 3 out of 5.
It keeps throwing me off that it resets a whole day before the weekly reset. Why a day sooner?

This bratty hag elf catches masketta looking at her chest and hits astronomical levels of smug
also those faggot pajeet google coders decide to fuck over extensions again, and I was just gone for 4 days.
layoff fodder fucks

>>530945039
>priest > fighter
>picks up a sword
>instantly becomes retarded

>>530945039
There’s a flag you can use to reenable it, or use the script based versions again.

>>530944231
Bro you need 5x6 bondmates at the bare minimum and there's like two HP bondmates in the game currently, one of which is a pain to farm.

Adventurer bondmates give 6-7(and the passive scales higher with the level cap) to a stat and have a bigger effect than the majority of bondmates, which are things like vague specific status resistances.

Nameless female butthole.

>Samurai Fey Seedling Medium Weapon Junk
Where the fuck did I find this and how do I acquire more?

Is 40 too low for abyss three? These battles are taking forever for next to nothing exp.

>>530945623
The daily urgent quest. Ninjers.

>>530945623
you can get four scales junk from the daily abyss 3 tag event but honestly it's a pain in the ass

>>530945784
What?
It’s just harken to B1F, run down the stairs and around the corner to clown on Grandpa Boner in one round.

>>530945951
oh I tried going from b3f maybe that's why it was cancer

>>530945784
>3 tag event
I just get 1 tag from the daily Urgent.
But yeah. That's where I got the Fey Samurai junk from.

>>530946297
Now we're talking.

>>530946297
I look and dress like this.

>>530945374
>>530945581
Wasted design on a generic. Should have swapped places with Kiriha so we can get some voicelines and a class change.

>>530946297
Those are his pubes by the way.

>>530945039
>those faggot pajeet google coders decide to fuck over extensions again
That's why I use an outdated version of Chromium.

>>530946890
She won't be so smug when I creampie her armpit.

What are the fastest requests you can do for the weeklies?

>>530947492
grade exam

>>530947492
Grand child rescue, it's right next to the beginning dungeon weekly tag request and teleports you out of the dungeon.

Then either do lead exam twice or other easy to get to ones like undead purge or docks fight.

I usually just do 3 leads because I hate wheeling now since you have to get the guarda 10th floor harkin everytime.

Where should I allocate my stats on 8 point str iv Shiou, bros?

>>530947834
str or spd

>>530947919
Why speed? And, no luck mechanics this time?

>>530947079
That is why I use chinkesoum opera

>>530947834
SPD, she only gets half bonus from STR compared to other classes because she scales with both IQ and STR
her best stat after surety is ASPD

>>530945703
Yes. 50 is minimum but you want get FPS on your fighters asap

*sniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiff*
>+ 1 aspd

>>530945328
Fighter<>Mag combination is one of the worst I think. Zero synergy.

>>530938541
Put everything into Luck for the extra follow up and counters so he becomes am auto machine. Speed is brick worthy with Dwarves since even at +10 Speed they're too fucking slow. You have billions of ways to control speed during fights anyway. Your Benjamin minmaxing speed still needs heavy attack speed investment to be worth anything. Right now he would still be outsped by 90% of late game content even then. Not worth it.

>+9 Mag
>+10 Atk
Shame it's a steel katana

Do you rename generics that you're going to turn into bondmates?

>>530948751
Forgot the image

So the cooldown for amnesia essence is shorter than a month, because I'm 6 days short of my sanctuary's blessing cooldown and still got one from melgina.

>>530944231
Well you see,
I could walk through le bicken or sand shadow with a full team of 60s.as i grind gear.

Or for no cost at all to my performance bring 2 dudes ima scrap for bondmates.
All while improving my main team

>>530948838
Yes.
Priestess
Monk
Fighter
Sorceress
Rogue
Defender
Shinobi
Guess who is who

>>530949468
Some look like a week and some like two weeks
I like it more

>>530948838
I do. The generic names stick out like a sore thumb compared to a party of actually named adventurers.

>>530950541
Very cute

>>530950541

>wilderness set
What the hell do I do with this? I have over 100 junk of this stuff

>>530950306
All elf-mag

>>530950912
Build 45% damage reduction from beasts

>>530951264
She's going to need ghul resistance if she aims to survive what's about to happen.

Is the modelripper anon here? I need a good look at Human-Nin's panties.....

>>530952621
It was already posted on an older thread.

>>530952729
BRAP

>>530952729
This is what kiriha should've looked like.

>>530952729
Thank you brother.....

cute

>>530953727
4 kids btw

>>530953767
Revived pre-kids Yeka btw

>>530953959
doesn't matter, you cannot overturn the reason of the world
she already gave birth to 4 kids and her descendants currently run the kingdom
if you dare to try to reverse her womb to pre-preggo state it simply turns to dust

>>530952729
Bros, where should i put those points in?
>inb4 she's shit
I don't care. She's cute.

>where should i put my BP
SPEED SPEED SPEED SPEED SPEED
SPD SPD SPD SPD SPD SPD SPD SPD
stop asking this retarded question the answer is always the same

>>530954484
The real answer is Luck, by the way.

>>530954334
>>inb4 she's shit
>5 BP & no IV
The one you got isn't anything special either. But if you still insist, 3 SPD/2 LCK, 4SPD/1LCK, or all in on SPD.

Bugenbros, our 12k…
https://x.com/Daphnee_Wiz/status/1943730753965371823

>>530954334
Strength all the way

>>530955495
>+15 kikuichimonji
IT DOESNT COUNT

Ninjagwos, Drecom surely will buff our class to the level of samurais, r-right?

samurai genuinely ruined this game
what were they thinking with 10k+ hits?
absolutely game breaking

>>530956543
It's okay, future monsters will be 25-50k to compensate triple samurai party...

>>530956787
i fucking pity all the gwos who spent money on lvl7 just to get outclassed by a no inherit D0 cat
this is why gacha companies deserve no money

How much does FPS do when similarly skill maxed on a Surety with double elemental advantage, Lana’s 10% and a bunch of buffs?

>>530956976
lvl7 tzalik*

>>530956543
>brand new thing is overpowered so people buy it
>will be nerfed later
Is this your first video game?

>>530957028
you realize bamboo splitter has the same damage as FPS 2 right? costs less SP too, not to mention it needs to be charged only once by switching into stance then you can spam it every turn

>>530957028
>1200 normal damage
>2400 surety
>2400*1.1*1.6=4224
Your flaw is thinking that FPS can do surety damage as easy as Samurais

ninjas were overpowered on release....?

>>530957374
surety is only x1.75 dmg, it's x2 when you have way of the thief. I think only MC and benjamin can access that now via class change

These translated comments are funny.

>>530957579
There is far more thief-fighter hybrids, at least Bakesh and Gaston
Imagine if samurai cats second class is thief

>>530957472
not really people were laughing at Rinne for being useless before her class change
mc ninja is cracked tho

First it’s “Ninjas suck and aren’t good enough to justify taking 2.5x as much EXP”, and now it’s “Samurai are too good, nerf them NOW”.

I frankly can’t tell if you gwos are pretending to be retarded and spreading misinformation and saying the dumbest shit on purpose or if you’re actually retarded anymore.

So i rolled for Samurai and put them on the Hyperbolic Dispatch Chamber until max level.

What is it that makes them do so much fucking damage? i keep seeing those videos of 10k+ hits but i don't know if it's just test dummy shit where they set up a perfect scenario to do that damage or they actually just perform like that on the regular

What skills are they using

im lvl50 and I couldn't get Shiou
should I reroll for her? i feel so sad that everyone is having fun with their buff cat girl and here I am with benjamin, jerking each other off

>>530958507
>everyone is having fun
only whales, ours are in dispatch hell for a month

>>530958507
>should I reroll for her
Unironically yes, unless you had Tzalikman
Tzalikman will get samurai class change soon, i hope you are ready

>>530958482
this is what she does with a shitty katana
only condition she needs is <30% HP, this isn't even using buffs like Lingering Blossom

>>530825480
I am new, what is troll ring and where was it from?

>>530959116
dragon event

>>530959116
troll ring is an event ring from the blade and bastard collab. it heals 5 hp per turn.

when the collab reruns it too will rerun.

>collab
>rerun
ohnononnono who will tell him

>>530958970
her hair looks so fucking stupid from the back

Katana problems?

Just get lucky on the paid gacha, bro.

>>530959525
>no surety
brick'd

Before I roll for cat, I need to know
What sort of booze does she like

>>530958507
She will com back in half year. just stack gems. Or open wallet

Erm, what if I wanted both Rinne and Shiou?

debra samurai alt with COUNTER ATTACK voicelines will save the beastfolk

>>530960007
they dont really work together rinne only buffs evil fuckheads

Rinne can still fulfill the roll of chest opener, don't bench her yet

>>530959897
Spirit retyfikowany

drecom loves money they won't nerf her before her banner is gone you can have fun for a month

>raven dagger first
>then a thief class change for rinne which heavily benefits her on her rerun
>and now a completely busted samurai
Alice alt with row buff Porto unique upcoming next
screencap this

>>530960842
>row buff Porto
No one cares about Porto anymore, she just needs to buff ATK and MAG with same spell...

Do you keep Rinne as a thief or bring her back to ninja?

>>530961084
You wait for the level cap raise to see if Thief actually gets a good skill so that they aren't just a brick that opens chests

>>530961084
she is the best thief currently

>>530961403
That's not saying much

>>530961000
>get 3 turns for 1
>nobody cares about porto anymore
because it's a single target buff, not a row
are you gwos actually retarded

>>530961084
If i ever get her thief book, I will for sure roundtrip her back to ninjer. Who the fuck needs another thief?

>>530961828
It doesn't work like that retardgwo

>>530961794

i do not play the game anymore but i theorycraft and post about the meta i dont know anything about

>>530961084
thiefs are kinda useless atm since everyone is farming sandnigger cave and you only need like 80 detect 80 disarm to consistently open those chests and even a lvl1 inherit masketta man can do that with some bondmates on any class

Hey don't use slurs like that

>live in caves
>blow themselves up
>worship a box
it's not a stereotype if it's true

>>530963420
>handsigns before stabbing you
>hide their faces
>gang wars
>require you to kill some poor innocent guy to join them
iykyk

>>530962212
Just like me but I still play>>530962442

Ninjas iffy, uh, shady got the kunai, uh
Got the kunai, uh, covert, six surety, uh
(Let me put some refine on that thing, real quick)
Heat-Haze Gang!

shiou seems bad
>nuke can only be used once
>needs to be under 30% hp for it
>it can also miss
>and cant target backline enemies
>trollkin only activates on turn start so she just crumples when facing more than one enemy
>takes 100 million years to level up and will get exponentially more annoying to level every time the level cap increases
>uses unique equipment that nobody else can so shes expensive, time consuming, and inefficient to gear
id rather save my gems for tzalikman 2, electric boogaloo (i.e a new strong character that doesnt have a million stupid conditions and demerits to constantly deal with)

HATE NINJERS.
DECAPITATE NINJERS.
LOCK RED NINJERS IN A CAGE WITH BLUE NINJERS.
GLUE ATTACK NINJERS EYES.
PRECISION STRIKE INTO NINJERS REPRODUCTIVE ORGANS.
STOMP NINJERS PENIS WITH EBONY HEAVY ARMOR BOOTS.
MILLIONS MUST DIE SECRET ART: LAFOROS IN A GROUP OF NINJERS BABIES.
THROW NINJERS CORPSES INTO A GRINDER AND USE THE PRODUCTS AS FERTILIZER FOR UGLY BASTARD ENTS.
NAIL NINJERS TO A CROSS AND LABADIOS.
ORDER ALICE (EVIL) TO INVERSE CRUCIFY FILTHY NINJERS AND SACRIFICE THEM TO AGORA.
DEFECATE AND URINATE IN NINJERS MOUTHS.
ERLIK INTO NINJERS ASSHOLES.
HALITO IN NINJERS MOUTHS.
FERU NINJERS LIMBS.
MIGAL TO NINJERS HEADS UNTIL THEY ARE BLOWN OFF.
PUT NINJERS IN THE ROW AND CAST MAHALITO.
BLOW NINJERS BRAINS OPEN WITH FOROS.
BURN NINJERS ALIVE WITH LAHALITO.
CAST KANTIOS INTO A GROUP OF NINJERS TO WATCH THEM KILL EACH OTHER.
STIR FRY NINJERS LIMBS IN A WOK AND FORCE THEM TO EAT IT.
ORDER GERULF TO ACTIVATE A VOLCANO AND TOSS NINJERS INTO IT.
BOIL NINJERS IN A PAN AND FORCE NINJERS TO DRINK IT WHILE STILL HOT.
LOCK NINJERS INSIDE A BRAZEN BULL.
POISON ATTACK LV3 INTO NINJERS WATER AND FOOD.
ORDER DANIEL TO TWIST NINJERS HEADS OFF.
HEAVY ATTACK LV7 NINJERS IN HALF.
USE NINJERS BONES AS BONE BROTH FOR SOUP AND MIX IT IN THEIR RATION PILLS.
CURB STOMP PREGNANT NINJERS.
PLAY SPORTS LIKE FOOTBALL, SOCCER AND BASEBALL WITH NINJERS SKULLS.
CAST BATILGREF AND TRAP NINJERS IN QUICKSAND.
DISSECT NINJERS TO STUDY HOW TO KILL MORE NINJERS.
EQUIP LIGHT SANDALS AND PRACTICE PENALTY KICKS WITH NINJERS HEADS.
CREMATE NINJERS IN THE BLACKSMITH FURNACE.
THROW NINJERS INSIDE A LIVING GIANT SLIME AND WATCH THE ACID DECOMPOSE THEM TO DEATH.
LOBOTOMIZE NINJERS.
BALAFEOS AND MORLIS PREGNANT NINJERS SO THEY ARE BORN WITH DISABILITIES AND AUTISM.
CURSE NINJERS WITH A SPELL.
USING THE CURSED WHEEL TO GO BACK IN THE PAST TO KILL MORE NINJERS.

you can do all that or just spam bamboo splitter against magic enemies or quickdraw stance against physical enemies

>>530964740
>>nuke can only be used once
It does more damage than something like Tzalik, in one turn, for way less resources, and she's still usable afterwards without mana pots
The once a battle limit doesn't seem that bad, just a way to balance it
It's not her main sell

>>530955495
>D9
They didn't beat the game

>we will get nameless samurai in 4-5 months
Can't wait

>>530964915
I preferred fisherman pasta.
T. Benji

inheriting all debras into shiou

>>530965237
>Again it's cute pie human samurai.
Shame.

Aldric ninja cc.

>>530965237
>it'll be the fabled big tiddy dark elf
>but she's nameless so useless

>>530965004
>she's still usable afterwards without mana pots
i will genuinely never understand this anti-iarumas meme.
how many boss fights are you doing where you're actually worried about bottoming out on mana pots? we get over 8 a month and i cant even remember the last time i used one outside of the latest tower, where i used 2 and the devs gave me back like 20. if i have to use a few once in a blue moon to beat some superboss ill fight once and then never again, fine. better than spending 18k gems on some shit character thats always at 6 hp so she instadies to a fucking spike trap or ambush on the way to the boss.

the Shiou coping from the poorfags is so fucking funny my sides

>>530965963
It really reminds of Tzalikman release coping

i don't care about tzalikman, samurai cat or whatever your favorite slant-eyed salaryman masturbating to right now

>mfw i holded since the steam release so i'll just get shiou guaranteed
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooolmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

>>530965963
you tell em shioubro, shiouskippers are all just poorfa-
IS THAT A BACKLINE ENEMY??
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! MY ACCURACY!! MY DAMAGE!!! SAVE ME TZALIKMAN!!

>10k burst that can be used only once per fight is somehow bad
brother the hardest boss in this game has around 30k HP
if she does 10k to him and nothing else she already fulfilled her role

>>530965814
It's not a point against Iarumas as much as it's a point for Shiou. She deals big damage just like fighters for no additional investment.
So when you are fighting a boss, you deal multiple Tzaliks worth of damage in one turn with her unique, then you fall back on the rest of her good kit without the need of mana pots.
You aren't using her taunt if you're fighting normal mobs anyway.

>EPHEMERAL ILLUSION STANCE IS HER ONLY ABILITY!!!!!

I changed my class for MC and it returned to level 1 (as expected), and I thought this would be a good time to level other characters as well so i'm not stuck with one party.
What's the go-to manual leveling strat? High level mage that can nuke entire fight + 5 low level units, and then go to a high level normal dungeon and nuke fights (and repeat)?

Dispatches seem pretty pointless at this point

>>530956976
Tzalik isn't once by battle tho

>>530966304
hell yeah bro. and we can even enter the boss fight at low hp to use her 10k burst right away. she's such a good chara-
OH FUCK A FORCED AMBUSH! I HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN TO THE BOSS YET!
OH NO NO NO MR VAMPIRE PLEASE DONT MAZELOS MY SHIOU!! I SPENT A THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH OF GEMS ON THIS CUNT AND SHES ONLY AT 6 HP PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

What causes this

>>530966102
they are masturbating to this

uh oh, melty.

uh oh lvl7 tzalik melty

>>530967253
Warping after spending gems on bait Rinne rerun

>>530967296
Yeah, Vivi makes me hard.

but I love Rinne

nin nin!

>>530966986
Yeah you're right but you have to use it a bunch of times just to match what the cat did in two turns

>>530967651
the nips are so fucking SOVL I wish you guys were like them

>>530967651
damn people really rename their toons

>warping all over SamCat already
You have WITNESSED THE STRENGTH OF THE BEASTFOLKS

>>530966708
i mean yeah it may as well be. if you arent using her (bad) exclusiveslop you may as well use the dorfsam thats infinitely easier to get.

>>530967651
SEX

>infinitely easier to get
I got only 1 dorfsam in 102 pulls...
Still can't buy him in ossuary

We need content so the low effort shitposting dies

>getting content

>>530969135
>>530969135
Abyss 5 in two weeks anon trust da oplan

>>530967723
You also get the usual benefits of magic, I'd argue it's fair game for a skill without limitations

>>530967253
Intent to sabotage others in /wizg/ when Castle (Fixed (True)) comes around.

GODDAMNIT. I accidentally hit auto reverse on my bones and accidentally spent my legendary and christmas flut bones I was saving. I alt f4'd to try and save it, but it still went through. It's also the luckiest I've ever rolled and my first natural Lana roll and I wasn't even fucking there for it.

>>530967253
Gender wars maybe ? I thought Wizdpahne would be spared by that nonsense but going by that and the recurring seething about Sheli that might not be the case

>>530970224
>christmas flut bones I was saving
But why?

>>530970224
>spent my legendary and christmas flut bones I was saving.
??

That's it I'll buy 100 more inventory space
I can't keep selling all the trash ebonsteel gear if I plan to use them one day

>>530966837
1-3 mages, spamming Line or All nukes, yeah.

Shiou is built for players who enjoy living on the edge. Her effectiveness is maximized when she's constantly flirting with death, making her a strong choice for boss fights where damage timing and burst matter. However, because she only truly shines when her HP is low, she can be inconsistent in general use or during long dungeon runs. She's katana-locked and requires careful team support to stay in her effective HP window.

While Iarumas doesn't have the burst potential of Shiou at her peak, he’s extremely flexible. He fits easily into both magic-heavy and mixed parties, and his front-row capability gives him surprising durability and versatility. His biggest weakness is that, as a hybrid, he doesn't reach the same extreme heights that pure mages or pure warriors can. He also lacks core skills like “Way of the Mage” or "Full Power Strike" out of the box, so you’ll need to inherit or build around that.

If you want a flashy, high-burst, clutch unit who excels in boss fights or short engagements, and you’re okay with managing risk, Shiou is a thrilling choice—but only available for a limited time. On the other hand, if you prefer consistency, flexibility, and a unit that can slot into almost any team comp with ease, Iarumas is the safer long-term pick.

>>530970485
I bought all of it, and it’s still not enough…

>>530970614
>Full Power Strike
>inherit
ChatGPTGWO...

>

>>530970297
>>530970323
desu I'm not really sure myself, but I got so used to it being there. I'm more sad I missed finally getting to see Lana's remains

>>530970614
>she can be inconsistent in general use or during long dungeon runs
I find her to be pretty consistent on that note, not worse than a warrior by any means. Be it fighter or samurai, you'll rarely use skills during long runs anyway

>>530970969
I can relate though, I've rolled saved bones countless times when I wasn't paying attention and was just intending to reverse some random junk.

>shiou damage vs fighter damage scaling
>samurai scales around the same for both str and mag with an approximate 0.6/0.6 ratio for a total of 1.2 power
>1st row is physical attack and 2nd row is magical attack
>damage comparison is between normal attack and their version of HA

>>530971152
So there's no point in aiming for ATK instead of MAG then ?

>>530825480
>taking them both
Multiple enemies. Dies through trollkin.
>gamblers
Multiple enemies. Dies through trollkin.
>bouncers
Multiple enemies. Dies through trollkin.
>corrosion guardians
Multiple enemies. Dies through trollkin.
>collab dragon
Enemy with multiple turns. Dies through trollkin.
>old castle scorp and succs
Multiple enemies. Dies through trollkin.
>old castle plant and slimes
Multiple enemies. Dies through trollkin.
>vampire and cyclops sentry
Multiple enemies. Dies through trollkin.
>centaur and buffed undead
Multiple enemies. Dies through trollkin.
>double golem
Multiple enemies. Dies through trollkin.

>>530970947
Where's the pics of people killing guarda gwo

>>530970947
>earth element dwarf against water element fishoids
>earth infused katana
>multiple attack boosts
>surety hit

>>530970485
I bought the it all, would bought more.

Why do people recommend heavily investing in speed when from what I've played up until the middle of Guarda there are almost no enemies that have ever outsped even the slowest member of my party?

>>530970947
>Total fishmen death
>Friendship ended with Benjamin, now Bugman is my best friend

>realized a basic class like fighter cant be the end of it all
>make samurai way stronger than it so instead of running 5 fighters and a buffer/debuffer you now want to have 3 samurai, 2 fighters with bows and a buffer/debuffer/healer that is probably alice
magegwos...

>>530971956
>He dont know about speed up triple turn

I just don't like when people having fun with new characters so I shitpost. Sheli gets special shitposting points because we have pathetic waifufags here.

>>530971956
Is your party made up entirely out of blue hedgehogs in disguise?

>>530971956
because most anons are playing post-guarda

>>530971956
For convenience sake since aspd is an uncommon stat

>>530972140
>2 fighters with bows
Better than spear?

>>530972164
Very good. Waifu fags deserve rope

>>530960207
Rinne with alice +1 flex backline and shiou frontline works. Im running benis since no green lana
The issue is that farming kunai fucking sucks balls but since its backline you can just stack offensive stats bc ninjers probably wont need to worry about getting hit ever in the back unless its magic

Is backline fighter MC a retarded idea?

>>530973440
Bows aren't great so unless you've got something very specific in mind, probably?

>>530973440
It is, just wait for samurai class change
Samurai MC will be busted

>>530973440
For most people, MC gets higher stats due to all the passives he gets from the classes and the well of the mind, so you might as well go frontline since he's decently tanky while having a number of ATK passives.
If you want to stay in the backline out of fear of dying, go mage or ninja instead since they'll do more damage and backline chars don't need that much health to survive.

>Ninja different from old Wiz but core is still there
>Samurai very different from old Wiz with only the underlying idea still there
Lordbros how are we feeling?
Bishopbros are you even still alive...?

>>530973802
>Just wait 6 months gwo
>When people are warping at 1.1 months of waiting for content

>>530972612
Spear is still a bit better for Fighter due to WoTW, unless you need to hit 3rd row or the weak-spot of Guarda GWO.

>>530974370
>Ninja is thief better at dealing damage
>Samurai is fighter even better at dealing damage
Lord will get turned into better Kn*ght, finally dealing passable damage but much better at protecting your party.
Bishop will get turned into betterer Priest, stronger buffs, multipurpose healing spells, and finally Labadios outside of Alice.
They’ll then throw out betterer Mage with some new name.

>>530975634
>but much better at protecting your party
As long as game has 3 buff slots, it will be DOA
>They’ll then throw out betterer Mage with some new name.
Samurai(MC)

livana samurai cc... trust...

>>530971956
Speed double dips in that it gives you two valuable stats, ASPD and EVA, allowing you to neglect them on gear in favor of more offensive stats or stack them to the moon

>>530976107
It’s only a matter of time before they start throwing out more effects that don’t use the same slots as typical buffs like Self Healing or Samurai’s stuff.

I am soiled
regards, Rinne

Where do I disable traps in sand shadow cave and wasnt there new knowledge or smth too?

>>530977567
It's in the place you got allahu akbar'd at

>>530976794
that's haram

There is literally no downside running triple samurai frontline

>>530978451
Putting aside the lack of a third Samurai, the downside is letting a dw*rf or beastf*lk in your party.
And that’s frankly an unacceptable one.

>>530978451
>the pretend weeb adventurers (with You included since they wont add another samurai for another 6 months who will just be a nameless anyways) will be the strongest frontliners
what did drecom mean by this

what's the point of ninja katanas?

When you were FPSing
I studied The Blade
When you were fisting GWOs
I mastered The Elements
While you wasted your days at the dispatch mines for ninja
I cultivated Inner Strength and Magic
And now that the world is on fire and the Gatekeeper is at the gate you have the audacity to come to me for help?

>>530972612
Bows can hit enemies in the backrow when you're in the backrow yourself
Better for auto since your characters like to target those enemies for some reason

>>530979236
sorry wrong pic gwos thought that was bugger, all dworfs rook the same to me

>>530978945
Standard 1H vs 2H option.
Weapon balance is just fucked, either because they fucked up math with regards to enchantments when balancing them or the balance is planned around higher tiers of equipment that don’t yet exist given how large the jump between tiers is.

>>530975517
hope the anime is good

>>530979616
>warnerbros studio
Well...

>>530978945
they give a fuckton of evade and don't have the huge downsides of dual wield.

>>530980716
>huge downsides of dual wield
Speed of action and evasion rate decreased by 6
The dagger increases its action speed by 4 and evasion rate by 2, making a total of +2 and -2, respectively

>>530981714
What is Adam thinking in this pic

>>530981714
>retarded elf
>tired elf
>homeless dwarf

>>530981714

>>530978945
It has a bonus evade effect and Ninja has a separate special evade that gets stronger when wearing cloth armor.
Makes me wonder if you can build an dodge tank off that.

Alice is just thinken of Agora

>>530981418
A +20 covert blade will have roughly 250 atk, 13 surety, and a whopping 42 evade. They're pretty strong.

>>530982264
Wiat sorry did the math wrong, 32 evade. Evade Increase is worth 19 on the covert blade and they get 13 from base stats.

>>530982264
>42 evade
That is my one dagger gwo

>>530982264
Wiat sorry did the math wrong, 27 evade. Evade Increase is worth 14 on the covert blade and they get 13 from base stats.

This is what i get for posting right after waking up

>>530982264
>>530982425
>>530982562
Who do I believe…?

>>530982741
quiet you. you saw nothing.

>>530981714
>"dwarf"
>is fuckhueg
????

>>530982972
While Elves go tall, dwarves go w i d e.

dwarves confirmed for having the biggest dicks

*the widest dicks

Why would dwarves need penises when they clearly reproduce asexually via budding.
If that’s wrong then where are the dwarf women???????

>>530983848
In the mines having babies.

>>530983848
Dwarf cocks aren't for reproduction, they are made for elven pleasure

>>530982562
>27 evade
Impressive, very nice

>don't know if I should roll for shiou or save for iarumas rerun
>I only want either of them and can't really decide yet
>iarumas may not even rerun and then I'll probably have missed shiou
no...

>>530984998
Iarumas probably won’t rerun until the B&B anime comes out.

>>530984490
Well kiriha's locked to dagger/kunai anyway. So your candidates are Rinne, MC, and Human-Nin. I kinda feel like Rinne wants daggers anyway to stack surety with her elf dex, so it's really for either MC or Human-Nin.

>>530985874
>Well kiriha's locked to dagger/kunai anyway
Barely, if ninja katana was good you could just ignore the passive because it's within rng of equipment rolls
There are multiple game design issues with ninjas, like getting 7 hit(3+3+1)[5 hit if f2poor] is much better than 1 hit due to how damage calculates, and it's x7 more chance to proc instakill. Ninjas have legit only 1.5 good skills, dissipation and sometimes voice theft, that for some reason is turn-based debuff though, but has high application chance and seems to have different formula from usual (mag-res)%

Armor Pierce is pretty equivalent to HA, but beyond that Ninjas run into the same issue thieves do of low soft caps and no easy way to level their main skills to compensate.

Do mages deal more damage with spells their element even if the enemy isn't weak to it, or does it just end up doing even more bonus damage if they are?

>>530988302
only weakness damage

Which of these gives the most xp?

>>530989110
Martial training.
Operation is more for junk.

They could really hurry the fuck up with new characters since it's not like you're going to save any significant amount of gems during a banner. Six months per new class is too damn long.

6 months per new event, 6 months per class, a year per abyss....

>>530823058 (OP)
its am amazing how people still spend money on this game that is just barely staying afloat with egregious pricing

>falseflag esl shitpost to generate engagement in the thread

doomposting doesnt generate engagement here tho, its metaposting about tzalikman, elfmag and shiou

I will still have sex with Shiou, Elf-Mag, and Neutralman and you can’t stop me.

Bugen is better than the Cat.

>>530994286
Even if he is better stat-wise in the long run, cat having a free nuke will always make her easier to use out of the box.
That said there's no reason to not just use both if you have room on the frontline for it.

>dwarf male better than beastfolk female

just use both bwi, you DO have both after pulling...right???

just get him from the ossuary gw-- oh wait

When are they going to give us more party space
>3 samurai frontline
>3 fighter midline
>3 mage/priest backline

>>530994749
>>530994905
Just roll a prefect 10 BP str boon one from one of the free bones like I did gwo.

>>530994749
I only got 4 Bugens and it takes 4 Bugens to level Katana Heavy Attack to Level 3 so...

erm gwos you have to think that samurai will become regular enemies in 6 months too... just dont leave them with low hp...

Big Titty Dark Elf Lady in 6 months will release me from my suffering.

>samurai group minibossfight like the ninja cave
>they all have several thousand hp
>after prepping stances turn 1, they...
oh...

>>530996027
just dodge bro

>>530996027
Get hit by six full power strikes, and take extra damage from them because of their stance.

>>530978690
Who are is the fist man?

>>530989110
Operation let you send 6 adv, less exp per adv but extra loot.

>>530967296
I'm actually impressed at how much Thief Rinne captures a different vibe with a simple recolour and swapping some of the sashes for buckled belts.

>>530999615
she also cut her hair short like flana

>>530998278
>at least 4 of them survive
>gets bombarded by bamboo splitters for the rest of the turn
>ready up more FPSs
>gets bombarded again

>>530999768
high evasion all cover knightgwos we are so back

>>530978945
I found them useful when manually leveling Rinne since it takes a while to get to dual-wield and the EVA bonus makes it easier to run Ninjas in front. Now whether it was wise to manually level Rinne from 1-25 rather than doing it through dispatches, that's another question entirely...

>>531000194
>"high accuracy" skill
bros flipping a coin on whether he gets one-shot for 900x2

>>531000194
I thought I was so smart having my Savia BBF the ninjas
she wasn't loving it
everyone else was ok atleast

>>530999768
I mean, functionally it's not that different from getting jugular striked over and over again.

>>530996027
>just another whale fight where you want to Way of the Knight maxx with adams inherit to help
bwis. . .

I don't understand Shiou. What is the counter move? Linger blossom is just tons of buffs if you survive with 1 HP.
Are all these buffs in one slot or do they take up every slot you have?

If you don't get the samurai light in the first week you should just accept death irl.

>Finally try out kunais on ninja MC
>Can't hit enemies for shit
>Look up his stats
>-70 accuracy compared to dual daggers build
What's the play here...?

>>531002771
what level?
I have 126acc from flat+% on boots and a % line on ring
id just try to get a few acc lines mixed in and then w/e mix of atk / surety on the rest
I'd need to double check but I think covert has a slightly lower acc penalty also
that being said if you're already at a decent level DW daggers is pretty solid especially if you stack the passives + slayer in the well

bros, this fisting man just got powercrept.....?

>>531004789
He was a brick the moment he was revealed to not have boobs.

>>531002771
Are you still using one-handed focus or have you switched to range focus in well?

>>531004276
Both are +10, lv50 masketto
>>531004936
Oh right, didn't think of that. I'll try with a ranged build next reset

Finally, I have the full set.

Except the goddamn kunai.

so is samurai any good? been busy recently

>>531005710
>only +5

>>531005710
keep grinding sand shadow, I'm sure you'll have a pair before you hit 60
>>531010786
I'm still not going to be able to test it until next week but I've heard cresting wave into bamboo splitter spam does work
w/e MC gets the class the elemental imbues are going to be nuclear
I'm not going to shill rolling on the banner but if you roll the dwarf at some point I'd level him up to try it at the least

How powerful are the weapon enchants and how many turns do they last?

>>531011386
sand shadow is genuinely an awful grind with no money and barely xp. if i were smart i'd be grinding ship2 for money instead.

>>531012234
>barely xp
I do 5 packs at 1.8k-9k depending on spawn + I'm also after heat haze junk
how much does the ship give for xp I havent been in awhile

>>531013504
oh ship doesn't give xp at all past 50. i just meant the xp from heat haze wasn't much to motivate me.

>>531011617
They don't add damage unless you're striking the enemy's weakness and they last indefinitely.

>>531011386
nta. but yeah element imbue + cresting wave->bamboo splitter is strong.

>>530948298
So should I wait a day or two to finish up dispatches then uncap at 60 to start?

>>531016198
How are you liking Bugen so far?
I was considering raising both of them since it's a new class and all but I would like to hear some anons takes on him first

>>531015597
>and they last indefinitely.
That sounds too good for this game.

>>531016380
nta and I've been lvling the cat haven't tested yet
kinda wish I started both at the same time but I'm probably going to throw him in the dispatch mines and rotate him in if I need him
idk the value but his unique passive sounds pretty good and with the kit he can hit most elemental weak points

>>531016380
against element-weak enemy he's really strong. the only drawback is his speed, can be mitigated with porto though. also need 3 turn to set up, but i think the damage dealt is worth the set up.

>>531012234
>barely any xp
The group of three ninjas give 12000 to a level 30 character and die to one auto attack each so they're easy to kill.
I think it's pretty good for XP.

When does the dispatch mine unlock on abyss 3? Is it for level 40 units?

>finally do the ninjer box request
>reach the boss
>it's rng instakill slop
gay. at least neutralman could oneshot a ninjer each turn so the fight didn't last very long.

>>531017903
based on his other reply I think he's talking about characters over lvl 50, I wouldn't think to much about it

>>531018352
After you beat the first major boss on floor 3 and then step onto Floor 5 after walking through the empty floor 4.

Okay so I'm now running beginning abyss floors (enemies lv.30, which should be good) with 2 mages (lv.38) and 4 low level characters that i'm leveling (~lv.20). I'm just nuking encounters with the mages. This is gonna take literal hours of mindless grind like this until my masked returns to form. Am I doing this right? Is there really no faster way to get back to high level? i kinda hope not because this is pretty comfy. The repeatable quests seem only marginally faster and such a hassle that I couldn't be bothered, unless I'm wrong

t. >>530966837

Is FPS worth a skill book to get to rank 2?

>>531018934
I mean when I was new I just ran through b7f - b8f a few times
but once I unlocked pri / mag I had enough tomes to hit the mid 20s and just throw mc in the back while I progressed
>>531019696
If you're only going to 2 you could use the one from fighter proving grounds

>>531018934
Depends on what level you're at at the time and your goals, for example if MC is still low and you wanted to powerlevel just him you could just blast B7F/B8F with mages and use the fountain to camp so that he never levels up and gets less exp until you've hit your goal.

farming for copies of weapons is so miserable, i hope the enhancement uncapping gets an overhaul

>>531020228
Honestly, anything past +10 feels very much like "win harder" than necessary and horny swords are the only pieces I've taken higher than that beyond some fantastically rolled rings.

Does the Bonepicker reset at exactly 24 hours on the dot? Some weeks I don't get a bone even though I didn't encounter him earlier. Really fucking dumb not to just tie it to the daily reset if so.

>>531021245
If you mean 7 days on the dot from when you last took it, yes. Chest/quest/bonepicker/etc respawns have nothing to do with daily reset

>>531021534
Yeah I meant 7 x 24 hours. So it'll just gradually lag further behind, just a smaller amount of you're religiously doing it at around the same time. What the fuck is wrong with Japanese people? This shit was the same in Shadowverse for daily missions resets, though at least there it was 21 hours so there was at least a window to keep things consistent. They finally changed it after 7 years and a whole as game later.

So do you have to actually do another entire route of Abyss 2 to unlock the Mage lantern? This dungeon is such a slog.

>>531022090
You can just find him right before it hits 7 days and wait for it to tick to the exact time. If you talk to him too early, you can just alt-f4 and come back.

>>531022397
You only need to keep the missing person alive (NightQuil, or flood the arena during his fight). You can just kill Geuzen and Melgina again after that.

>>531022397
No. I haven't done any of the secret endings that require you to replay the whole ass game. Like doing Abyss 2 True End on all 3 different routes.

I'm missing a ton of Luck Lanterns as a result.

>>531022934
You can get the quest and wheel to those points?

>>531023054
After the missing person gets chunk'd, you can either:
>Wheel back to Arena 2
>talk to Butch
>talk to Rickert
>get the NightQuil from Arna
>do the stupid 1F backtracking to Reverse the Harken again
>get paid by Rickert
>give Butch the NightQuil
>win Arena 2
>watch Butch lose
OR
>continue to Gessi
>lose after fighting him underwater
>Wheel back to Arena 3
>get to the switch in Ship 1F
>flip it to the RIGHT
>watch Butch and the missing person flounder in water
After either is done, jump to Arena 5 and kill Geuzen and Melgina. There's your IQ Lantern.

Do I really HAVE to permakill one of my nugget for Ninja class
What the fuck?

>>531018404
Wait, neutralman is good? Everybody said he was shit

>>531022615
>You can just find him right before it hits 7 days and wait for it to tick to the exact time.
I COULD. But I play whenever I feel like, and I'll be damned if I'm setting an alarm for the fucking Bonepicker. I'll live with one less bone every other week. There's zero reason not to tie these resets to the daily reset. You're still waiting about a week for a bone, just not exactly 168 hours.

>>531025070
The reason is 'fuck you' because every chest has some sort of variance to the respawn, so even when you loot two within minutes of each other, they'll respawn days apart. Bonepicker is actually the friendliest respawn for being exact

>>531023719
Oh that's a bit better. I thought the JP wiki meant 2nd round as in the second run through of that dungeon. Shoutout to Mormon Wives.

Invested some scrolls into her
Lvl 3 bamboo on +15 Equisite katana

>>531025474
>The reason is 'fuck you'
Yeah it really do be feeling like that. Like you can keep the time autism but at least make it 23 hours. That way even if I did play at a regular time, at least I wouldn't be at the pier staring at this bonepicking motherfucker counting down the minutes before I can shove 1000 gold up his scrawny ass.

>>531025950
Damn
Is Tzalikman fucking cooked bros?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2K_dqP2gmag
>samurai dodges the morgus wipe with quickdraw stance
heh, nothing personal kid

>>531025950
How much is level 1 compared to that?

>>531027182
NTA but I levelled her unique from 1 to 3 and it's a roughly 30% increase in damage
probably bamboo is the same

>>531027182

>>531026607
no because just use both bwo

>shious ears
does an animator on the dev team love cats or do they have an ear fetish, the twitch is very oddly...nicely animated

>>531027871
What the fuck
What's her gear
Is the damage noticeably worse against high def enemies?

What's the better value for my money? An adventurer's pass or a mission pass? I really enjoy this game, and I don't mind tossing some money at it since I'm used to paying a minor sub fee for mobile games. I'm torn between those two though.

>>531027871
Sneak attack and FPS are both stronger.

I'm starting to think the Tattered Doll (at +10) actually makes the Cursed Sack Doll spawn at the daily and not run after this update. Will check in for two more days, just to be sure...

>>531028263
nta, but against higher def enemies, the damage cant be much worse because it already deals so much damage
(damage = damage-(defense/2))

>>531028535

>>531027871
Is the accuracy good like HA/FPS? This is a bonker ability

>>531028535

>>531028669
What about ninja armor pierce or covert strike? Rinne might finally get to level 60 next month...

>>531028263
D6
Don't know if I really need that much evasion, might want to switch it later
>>531028280
Dont buy it, it's ass
You better off just buying weekly pack with green xp book and 200 gems for 1$
Was 300 gems before but John Drecom said to fuck us even more

>>531028910
>D6
How much did you spend?

>>531028910
is that a speed boon shiou?

>>531028910
Thanks, anon. The cash shop in this game is atrocious but that doesn't sound too bad for gems.

>>531028280
The limited mission passes are good, not the month long ones for Daily and Weekly missions.
Adventurer pass isn't terrible if you're planning to play a LOT and can actually take advantage of what it gives you.

>>531029010
Quite a fucking lot, got shit luck and was pulling off banner legs all the time
>>531029084
8 pts IQ boon
4 into str and 4 into speed

>>531029338
Yeah, I finished Bloodmatch. Got 3 anonymous pulls for my trouble, but the extra gems were nice.

I've gotta save gems in hopes that I can pull another Lanavaille that I can feed my 90 end one to.

Can I see how much fort an adventurer has before registering them?

>>531030187
nevermind I'm retarded

This is STR IV right? Half IQ half SPD good idea or go all IQ?

https://x.com/Yosikisakurai7/status/1944199459287838945?t=OkL2ZGCAGyopItPOnv9i1w&s=19
>stone breath missed against shiou in quickdraw
>but didn't counter until the normal attack
that shit can miss????

>>531030879
it only works against physical attacks gwo

Ah, shit, I actually became a Goodfag after giving an Herb to a mob. Guess I'll do some Ambushes to wind that back.

>>531030967
well sure, but I'm surprised the stone breath even missed in the first place

I just unlocked the wheel and I'm kind of overwhelmed. Is fighter a safe bet for MC class?

>>531031419
Yes. In particular because Wanderer is a dead class that doesn't get anything else, and the tree nodes lean towards giving you a lot of good physical stats.

i took a break for a month(been obsessed with shadowverse), is this game still doing well? i saw the devs lowered the gem value of all the paid packs and that kind of worried me

>>531031419
eventually you want to level all MC classes for the passives they give
but yes fighter is the best starter MC class

>>531031645
They both lowered their cost and the gems you get.

>>531031821
i see, ty. also i just came back and saw samurai were added, and i see a bunch of people farming for katanas. where can i farm for them and are they from a limited time mission or is it permanent?

>>531032129
best place to farm katanas is the sand shadow cave
you can unlock it by reaching abyss 3

>>531025950
Impressive. Very nice. Now lets see how much damage she deals to the Gatekeeper's weak point.

>>531032184
is it a limited time thing or permanent?

>>531032298
Permanent side quest. There is a limited daily going on right now that gives you one samurai loot though, you also unlock it by going through Guarda a bit.

>>531032259
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FDqGtJcwfq8
its not gatekeeper, but close enough

>>531032618
>lv7

>i-it doesn't count! because.... it doesn't!
you lost tzalikchud

>>531032618
anon, gatekeeper's weakpoint is at range. the joke is that she'll miss if she attacks it

>>531032971
no shit idiot, im saying that she doesn't need to attack his weakpoint to absolutely obliterate him

MATING PRESS SHIOU
MATING PRESS HUMAN-NIN

dont roll for the samurai pizza cat shes absolute garbage
complete brick
you dont want her
dont roll for her
i regret getting her
dont roll for her
save for someone else
dont roll for her

>>531032852
Meanwhile I'll be using both samurais + tzalik and will probably still job to gatekeeper

>>531029412
Nice, gratz

>>531034303
No... I just fucking spent all my rolls on her!

>>531034337
Gate jobber is a shitter. Unless doing 0 corruption he falls over to anything.

is this a SPD IV lana?

>>531034707
She needs to cut her hair

How much do IVs even matter? I haven't really been looking at my characters, so I have a few leveled up without even checking if they have IVs.

>>531035459
a lot
10 BP into SPD with a boon is like 10 ASPD
and boons will only get more important as the level cap is raised

>>531035459
they don't

>>531035459
One important breakpoint for stats is when stat% gear is better than flat stat gear
Booned characters will get past it much earlier, like 1-2 levelcap earlier which matters a lot.

>>530978451
Gearing 3 Samurai

>>531035459
As of right now.
Suppose we had 2 10 bp units.
We put it all on luck.
At 60 they are both lets say 40 luck.
If one of them were a luck boon(iv) they would be 46 atm.
So 46 to 40/39 luck as the iv seems to pull 1 or so from each other stat.

Its+6 because our level cap is 60. If/when we get to max level of supposedly 130.
That would be +13luck over the other person.
But also a collective -13 on the other stats, such as -2 to each.

Hypothetically lets say all stats are now 98 with luck at 123.
The other individual with 10 luck and no Iv would be 100 across the board and 110 luck.


If that doesnt make sense i dunno how to explain it any better. A units total stats would be the same just slightly rearranged for the IVs.

How valuable that is, is up to you or anyone else but it isnt insignifcant but also not extremely important. Its a level of minmax to eeek out more potential from a character. Imagine a str iv fire dwarf like gerulf. The other stats are already worthless that more str is nice.

Is there any reason to go STR over IQ for Samurai? Their attack and magic scaling are the same, and Samurai baseline already have good dual scaling attacks in their kit, so in case they get a caster class change wouldn't IQ be more flexible? Especially since Katana's don't have the 2 hander strength scaling variant.

>>530978451
Good luck getting the Katanas for such ordeal unless you plan to drop 2k+ in Shiou banner.

>>531036912
Yes but same for a martial clsss change like thief knight fi.
Thr str would be better. Your call

>>531035459
Most stats come from the gear. Sure few extra points on max level are nice I guess but does like 10 ATtack is worth the trouble especially that boobs lower other stats gains?

when do i stop

>>531037750
Stop?

>>531037750
Are you running a script or you are autistically farming that shit?

>>531037750
>gets 2 shit katanas

I find katana drops pretty common
Kunai drops however

>>531042605
Rates are rigged for now

im really torn between using lana or just 2 (later 3) samurais
i really can't justify not replacing lana because bugen does way more than 10% of MC+shiou's damage

>>531043183
sam if you need to nuke a mother fucker really hard
green lana for sustain dungeon crawl and auto farm. Everyone should have a fighter ring and it makes them perform quite consistently

Can somebody give me a quick rundown on Speed? Why do you put BP into it? ASPD is pretty easy to get and you only need 55~ to go first againts most enemies. Do you start to attack twice in 1 round at really high ASPD?

>>531043357
SPD also gives EVA
and yes you can have 2 turns if you have really high ASPD but only in the later rounds

>>531043357
it also gives eva. Effectively the most efficient stat since offensive stats is just +1 damage and everyone have at least 200+ at end game level
The only other "scarce" stat is luck but not everyone can use that
Also I bet most people have around ~50 apsd and +10 on that is much more impactful than +10 damage on 300 attack power.

>>531043183
>>531043293
lana gives 30% damage total and possibly Knight's defense, I don't think Bugen is better than her if you already have shiou

>>531043546
depends on what you want desu. Also knight's defense is for knights and you'll want green lana more even if she's an ugly boy

>>531043614
you can eventually max DSC uglier Lana so green lana is not that good unless you whaled on her

>>531043183
>>531043546
Just move MC to the back?

>>531043721
lets not get too crazy

>>531043713
Green lana is the ugly boy fighter lana gwo

>>531045083
yes and she's limited so you can't max DSC her