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>>530833234Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.
-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-4
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So is the thing in Tenna's drawer a PEPIS?
...
Is PEPIS like an egg or something?
the sex, imagine
https://files.catbox.moe/6sxcl7.png
Sometimes I'm feeling down and I wonder if I should take a day off from working out.
But then I think to myself "no, there are losers in /utg/ who want to fuck fatties" and I walk my ass to the gym, everytime.
>>530864051It's pronounced pipis actually
Deltarune will never top pic related
>>530863803 (OP)i miss my partner /utg/, i miss her a lot
>>530864075God I wish I was them....
what if dess is vriska serket/eddy's brother???
Whiteboard: https://r8.whiteboardfox.com/86219001-6245-7428
Magma: https://magma.com/d/zwvExP8tCq
https://www.ourworldoftext.com/utg
Iโm in a state of pure happiness/joy/ecstasy right now and I donโt really know why
Feel like I should do something with this joy but Iโm just vibing and riding it out a bit
Undertale Yellowโs soundtrack is crazy btw I donโt know why I didnโt listen to this before, โA Motherโs Loveโ fucking rules
They could have been happy together
>>530864381*sits next to anon and vibes*
Deltarune is about people that are all trying to act groovy when they are really glooby
Except for Susie who doesn't know how to act groovy or glooby and is just groovy or glooby depending on whether she's groovy or glooby
Also Undyne who really is always groovy which is why the Knight had to capture her lest she save the world with her groovy powers
deltarune more like GARBAGERUNE (because it's so bad)
>>530864286What if Dess is Haruko
>>530864381*sits next to anon and faps*
>>530864490December fits in the "creator" name limit
>>530864381Can I have some of that?
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>>530864379I have so many thoughts of them
>>530864381Good. Keep smiling
>>530864082The thing is that 2D fatties can be as fat as you want and suffer nothing for it, that's the beauty of the fantasy realm.
Keep up the exercise.
>>530864407They were and will be again. I have HOPE.
It really pisses me off when Ralsei gets on his high horse and tries to tell me taking Noelle to the festival is a bad idea. Fuck you, you little faggot. First you disappear on me constantly and hide shit from me, and now you want to grandstand? Wish I could punch him.
>>530864286>Dess is secretly evil>Dess is secretly goodI'm going with
>Dess was a troubled teen and her disappearance was a mundane accident that resulted in her death. All of the prophecy and conspiracies are trying to bring her back and learning to accept that it can't happen is the moral of the game. Gerson knew this and was trying to teach it to Kris.
I'm so glooby right now
I'm gonna snowgrave berdly so I don't feel so glooby
I'll find you, person who made this model, I'll find you.
Please please hand it over please please please
I know I'm four days late but did he finally nuke the Kris in the Closet?
>>530864656Sibling swaping has replaced wife swaping as the hot new stingers fad.
>>530851620My bet is that will be the case, but it wont matter when making the Twisted Sword. You all forget because its such a worthless detail:
Malius can repair you directly
Who's to say he cant fuse you directly?
The Twisted Sword is going to be grafted into her hand
>>530864780dumb, retarded and also wrong.She's in the files and three people wouldnt have hard trauma if it was "mundane"
You can finish board 1 without the power bracelet and it doesn't get brought up at all
Tenna force feeding the Pippins...
>>530864780>mundane accidentExplain Kris losing his arm
>>530864773i don't think its a high horse.
he knows something and once more doesnt tell us.
y'know le bad route will bring the epic rawr-ring.
>>530864743You are right, anon
They will work out their relationship and be the happiest couple in the dark world
>>530864780Your theory falls apart because Gaster bought Me to this world to save Dess. Your version of the story is incompatible with the existence of The Player
>>530865054>In the Bible, the phrase "cut off your hand" appears in both Matthew 5:30 and Matthew 18:8, and also in Mark 9:43, where it is used as a metaphor for taking drastic measures to avoid sin. It's not meant to be taken literally, but rather emphasizes the importance of avoiding temptation and sin, even if it requires sacrificing something that is cherished or pleasurable.
>>530864407what do you mean anon? they're married and together to this day
this thread tells me to imagine sex a lot but I never do
>>530864982"Dess is in the code and is the UNUSED dialogue" is going to be the last theory to be disproven right behind Friend Inside Me, when Susie says all that shit right after entering the bunker.
I finally beat jevil earlier!
>>530865042You can't spell Pippins without pipis, it's true.
>Tenna, already in a glooby mood, overhears employees complaining about the cafeteria being understocked>he snaps and makes them eat all the blue caviar they could ever have>until they LIKE IT
>>530865042>TV SLOP IS PIPIS!
>Toriel starts drinking at night again
>Kris has to try and sleep through the nighttime rambling before she knocks on his door until he can't stand it
>has to shove the soul back in as she eventually comes in and just sits with him on that bed
>it's another night of toriel telling Kris every stupid thing Asgore's ever did and then launching into another tirade about how if he never stops mumbling and being quiet he'll never be able to live in the real world and be on his own
>morning comes and Kris hasn't slept at all
>toriel makes him breakfast like nothing ever happened
>rinse and repeat
>>530864780the SOUL brings back the dead
the Dark brings back the dead
>>53084742Sorry that I'am slow, I will deliver more tomorrow, I promise.
Do you think the reason Spamton knows Krisโ name is because he remembers him from his Big Shot days since Tenna was always doting on them?
Itโs a shame no one is really interested in exploring Kris and Spamtonโs dynamic beyond the FREEDOM subtext. I think it would be interesting to see him as a sort of fucked up father/uncle figure to Kris to compliment Tenna as their mother.
>>530865042Fried Pipis is a delicacy you ungrateful slobs.
>>530865308Can we get gigachad literally me Kris back this one sucks ass
what the fuck is Toriel doing here
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=14090597
>>530864926>>530864952I wonder why it took him so long, was he just fucking with everyone?
>>530865370Kris and Noelle used to take the laptop home to play with it
>>530865263Grats dude, how long did it take and did you FIGHT or ACT on him?
Why can't all emotionally unstable and manipulative bosses be this cute?
>>530864912>>530864656>Little Noelle bouncing on Asriels cock>Little Kris thrusting into Dess>Only Asriel looks like he's having a bad time because he's a moralfag but easily pressured.
>>530865370I see Tenna as paralleling Asgore much more than Toriel, he and Asgore are both obsessed with restoring the good old days
>>530864490>You are Dess!I'm feeling a strange attraction to goats and minors now...
>>530864780I want a take where Dess was neither an angel nor a shitty person, she was a danger loving teen who enabled Kris' worst behaviors and eventually bit more than she could chew and got BEFRIENDED.
When we get to speak with her in the present I'd love to know if she's remorseful, sad and didn't wish Kris to continue suffering and hurt their friends to save her. Or maybe she is really scared and wants badly to return even at the current cost
>>530865370It IS interesting that Spamton knows Kris' name but thinking too much about Spamton leads to schizophrenia
>>530865219Spamton references UNUSED and the Japanese script quotes it word for word so it seems more like something that's occuring concurrently with the events of the game instead of being something said in the future
>>530865645and goat minors.
Fluffy boys...
>>530865370I think Spamton is more like your uncle's boyfriend who you never met but when you do everything suddenly clicks into place
Although that being said now that you mention it I would love to see Tenna react to finding out what Spamton tried to pull with Kris
>>530865579It took a while and i almost gave up, but I eventually managed to pacify him out of sheer luck
>>530865645Show them your armpits.
>>530847492Sorry that I draw slowly, I will deliver more tomorrow, I promise.
Deltarune Chapter 0, one day
dess: sorry asriel, i'm only attracted 2 miners
and then dess entered the coal mine
end of chapter 0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGGlTMF-k58
Kris finding Dess at the end of chapter 5:
>>530865202You are right, anon
They are still doing their shows together and cuddling in bed
>>530864490i really like edgy dess what can i say
>>530865263Congratulations on winning the numbers game!
...You did play the numbers game, right?
>>530865907that's the part where you pull a Buzz Buzz and rewrite history so Starman Junior doesn't obliterate Ness
>>530865615>Everything you just said
>>530865202That spamton is cursed wtf
>https://voca.ro/1kjdb1cl91JZ
Will there ever be a track in Deltarune that rivals mus_endarea_partb.ogg?
>>530865762Glad to hear you persevered, I fought him because I wanted Devilsknife.
you know maybe Kris wouldn't be such a depressed loser bitch if they allowed me to be in a loving relationship with them
>>530865812Fuck you man I don't even like the reindeer, why'd you gotta make me start thinking about punk pits
What's the point of beating jevil and spamton with violence? their armor drops are too good and unlock funny cutscenes
the forgotten man isn't gaste-
Why are Pippins so cute and fuckable?
>>530866149I'm not even sure if Kris could stomach the sight of another human, even one that looks like a Madness Combat character
>>530865972It's somehow over-the-top and undercooked, the way Susie and Lancer's conflict starts and gets resolved in 5 seconds gives me whiplash
You can tell Toby improved as a writer exponentially over the 9 years of development
>>530865732That's what I thought before the new chapters, but the dialogue references things we know Susie has done whereas we'd have to assume that Dess did those same things, and I believe when the full game is released, that almost all the questions the game brings up will be answered and will not require any leaps of logic to solve.
>>530866082he's very handsome
>>530866260So *that's* why I feel like Goners are made of clay.
>>530866272anon, toby wrote chapter 3 in 2016
>>530866332Gigachad spamton ainโt right, BUT that human Tenna in picrel IS, ZAAAAAAAAAAAMN!!!
>>530866176Because Jevilstail is less useful than Devilsknife (Devilsknife lets you shave a turn or two off of the Knight fight in Chapter 3), Jevil says cooler stuff if you beat the shit out of him instead of pacifying him, and not only does Jevilstail not give any cutscenes, it isn't actually taking Jevil with you. Jevil is literally the Devilsknife, just like Spamton is literally the Dealmaker. Jevil is not the Jevilstail, in much the same way that Spamton is not the Puppetscarf.
>>530866368my love is conditional for this creature
>>530865219>"Dess is in the code and is the UNUSED dialogue" is going to be the last theory to be disprovenI mean yeah if you're a stupid nigger lol, it gets updated every chapter loser.
>>530866180Gaster is looking for (You)
The Forgotten Man is looking for Kris
Is there characters that you thought would get some love, but didn't seem to get any at all
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/987750
GO PLAY IT
>>530865542>Kris wordlessly eats breakfast while Toriel does the same>Won't even look at her while she sneaks glances at him the whole time >Just continues like this until it's time to get to school>The ride is quiet until Toriel starts apologizing for acting like this again and that she'll be better tonight>This is the 3rd time this week>Kris can only count the sidewalk as this happens >rinse and repeat
>>530866326>Things like breakfast, or late night TV...My brother in christ do you really think Dess has never eaten breakfast or watched television past like 9pm?
>>530865998Imagine if Jevil refights you in chapter 5 if you spared him because you didnt actually play his numbers game
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>>530866549The itch.io page for this game has already been linked in previous threads
>>530866365>Susie hits the Vessel with a Rude Buster>SPLAT>The SOUL just pulls the Vessel back together
>>530866691>It has been a fucking CENTURY since chapter 1your taking too long...!
Placing Jevil on a weight scale (the numbers going up is part of his numbers game)
You donโt get it, Kris. She even does my taxes. Sheโs perfect! Just let me do my magic, I know what Iโm doing
>>530864054It's like the Neo body was made to sexily loom over a helpless rape (consensual) (Not really) victim or something.
MYSELF AND MY [Friend(s)]
>>530866859post the original so i have a comparison for my [Friend(s)] when i send them this image
>>530866176The Devilsknife is Susie's best weapon until Chapter 4 where you can swap it for the Justice Axe if you're actually fighting.
If you're not fighting, the Devilsknife gives magic and therefore makes Susie's gradually improving healing better.
>>530866763Fuck are there any greenfags still hanging about? I'd love to see susie and the soul make a game out of this idea, much to kris' extremely mixed feelings
PASS THROUGH THE SHRINE OF THE SILVER FAVE
Actually yeah for wearing yellow and pink glasses with Dealmaker there really hasnt been much lore consequences of that, beyond Tenna spilling spaghetti
I think it'd be fun to grab Noelle off the street, tie her up, drive around, untie her and drop her off exactly where you grabbed her. Just a little prank.
meat
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reposting this because no one cared last time
Kris Deltarune Smash Moveset.
https://files.catbox.moe/9p2w15.pdf
>>530866847it's not rape if tenna can't stop cumming
>>530867095wtf get him out of there before he suffocates
>>530864360Will you have your slice medium rare?
Which one of you fuckers made that vid?
LMAOOO
https://x.com/joe_applebrook/status/1943748603152843166?t=QwlZS_TwrBHU9BxuXhv8Zg&s=19
>>530865972>carries knife at all times>lets susie slam them into a lockerwhatโs Krisโ endgame
>>530866114It feels like the pacify route is easier, since you take less damage from defending and also his attack drops
Also i still have no clue how to properly dodge the spiral ace attack, its almost completely random
>>530866663She surely has, and Noelle even mentions staying up past her bedtime watching movies with her sister, but until we get concrete evidence Dess entered a dark world, that's still one thing Susie has over her.
>>530866180One of the only things we know about him is that Gaster was split into multiple pieces.
>>530867237>can't understand wtf happened unless he can perceive it as literal rapeThat's really retarded
>>530865749I just want to see them stuck in a situation where they have to work together for the good of the partyโs sake and just end up being their self destructive gay uncles. I donโt have many wants and needs in life.
>>530866817why would you want this?
>>530867072Tony Cat and Toby Fox
>Tender kisses with a person who loves him
or
>Agonizing burning in Hell for eternity
Pick his fate
>>530867329I saw some really funny pic of Susie seeing Kris pull out the knife and suddenly all the instances of bullying them start running through her head, it was really funny.
>>530866940Sometimes I like to pretend ERAM is a girl because I like evil women but I can't commit to the idea
>>530867472DIE
DIE NIGGA DIE
UNPLUG HIS ASS FROM THE DARK FOUNTAIN
>>530867456Naked women doing taxes is a surprisingly common fetish.
>>530867201I started cooking steak recently I cant get medium down, it's high heat, 4 mins on each side, then 30 secs flipping but dont get that sear and it overcooks quick anyways what the FRICK do I do I want tender steak
>>530867472If that person has to be me, the latter
>>530867042Why should I fight at all in non-weird Deltarune?
>>530867237>>530867404That is... completely typical media literacy on this website
>>530867548ERAM is the fiery sword magician girl from SMASHING FIGHTERS that Asriel switched to maining after being embarrassed about liking Yoshi. Her sword is the one we use in the Mantle segments.
>>530867472real hard choices...
hmmmmmmm........
ughh your being media illiterate
>>530867237>My post appears at the end of the video for half a second
>>530867329Become her first and closest friend and then commit suicide in the showiest way possible ruining her life permanently
>>530867472Don't worry Ralsei, I made a save, I just gotta see what this burning in hell option does first.
The Deltarune "community" outside /utg/ and the good /v/ threads is so fucking useless for anything but art and memes. Which is a lot to be fair but when it comes to discussing the game, plot, themes etc, completely useless.
>>530867392why do you think we're sealing all these fountains that conspicuously contain forgotten men?
>>530867472>FUCK RALSEI>OR>KILL RALSEI
>>530867472Susie gently gnawing on his marshmallow flavored head
thought about giving Ralsei a bath after chapter 4
It must suck to have fur and then have to dry it
>>530867237Why is everyone on xitter so dramatic all the time?
>>530867741Why was the fiery sword magician girl from SMASHING FIGHTERS hiding behind a door marked with the red devil horns and why does she want Kris to kill and kill and kill
>>530867936You could help him by laying with him in bed so your body heat dries him.
>>530867548>>530867741all these fuckers overcomplicating a simple character tease. ERAM aka "nightmare" is the knight.
>>530868025She wants Kris to become stronger.
>/UTG/ prefers actual pedophiles to some teenagers who ask you nicely to use the pronouns the game uses for kris
I fucking hate this place.
Have you seen this video? https://x.com/DonnieTheGuy/status/1943439743418515962?t=6u-1zyW_dhDcjJ1zA1UrXQ&s=19
>>530867356If I recall correctly you can avoid the circular spade attack by going to and hugging the left side of the box, but I'm bad at dodging so it wasn't the most reliable method.
There will NEVER EVER EVER be something in Deltarune as awesome as Omega Flowey.
alright guys fuck marry kill
White Ralsei, Black Ralsei, Beta Ralsei
>fucking and marrying a guy whose dick is the size of your whole body
how did spamton do it
>>530867472>the two options are the same
>>530867237Worst video award goes to:
Seriously, I felt like my IQ dropped just from watching those 16 seconds
>>530868052Wouldnโt that just make the bed wet, I donโt think that would help at all
I will never click a Twitter link.
>>530867042But the jevils tail does similar and the hammer boosts her healing
i fucking hate line art so much guys
>>530868140you already listed the order
>>530868096People getting mad at being corrected is one of the worst blights to affect humanity, its the reason the current administration is fucking us all over and i can't afford deltarune merch. Humanities hubris and ego needs to die so life itself may live. Accept you will be wrong about stuff, grow, become better. THAT is how you become stronger.
>>530867237>โUUUUUH HELLO, SHES LITERALLY A MINOR!!โWhy does people always react like this to every single negative thing that happens to a fictional character. I know those posters are children, but still
>>530867575a... are people really that bad at maths?
>>530868107I was a little cold on this one but the From Now On at the end pulled me back in
>>530868061>image_friend>your best friend = flowey = asriel>his nightmare = eram = dess>tag teaming youWELL WELL WELL
>>530867936they make towel robes
>>530868252Why do you hate it anon?
>>530867570>YOU AIN'T NEVER BEEN FROM THA UNDERGROUND IF YOU AIN'T DONE THIS BEFORE
>>530867936>It must suck to have fur and then have to dry itBut imagine how good washing and drying it for him would be! First you get to shampoo his fur and then dry him all over really, really thoroughly.
>>530867987Teenagers, college kids, and similar ilk where conversations about otherwise mundane things like the videogame you like are perceived to have (and thus actually have) life-altering stakes
Account culture doesn't help either. Here you can say something retarded or unpopular and it doesn't matter because the next time you post, nobody knows you said that.
With accounts you're incentivized to accrue social capital and it turns out one easy way to accomplish that is to paint other people as villains for their beliefs and crush them. Again, this is all greatly magnified by "teenager drama" though dumb adults who socially peaked in high school are also guilty.
>>530867853this but it's reversed since this place is the actually fucking useless one.
we have a very inflated sense of self importance beyond spawning retards to infest the wider fandom.
>>530868252I love line art, I refuse to color.
>>530868297i want to see you post suselle and hear the crickets from the same people.
its just upset faggots.
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>>530868096Im a centristโฆ hehโฆ i think everyone is stupid
>>530868140Black Ralsei, White Ralsei, me
>>530868154tenna has a vagina is how
>>530867828you're famous, anon
>>530868654>Marries ralsei>Immediately makes him into a widowI like the way you think anon
>>530868408It agitates my perfectionism.
It's infuriating.
>>530868265>People getting mad at being corrected is one of the worst blights to affect humanityHoly mother of trvkes.
>>530868358friend is a cat anon, most likely an orange one. where have we seen an orange cat before, one that spamton references right after trying to talk about the knight?
>>530867237OPEN THE FUCKING SCHOOLS, BASIC LITTERACY AS A ESSENTAIL CLASS
>>530868226Susie's healing is improved by beating Gerson but it does not require the Justice Ax to actually be equipped.
>>530868252Just don't do it, you think ancient artists did line art lmao?
>>530868662That fox dude's video has 100K views. Now I don't have to feel bad about never being in any of Miruku's videos.
>>530868784the fact that flowey's theme plays every time a schizo was there tells me something else
>>530868140Marry Ralsei
Marry Ralsei
Marry Ralsei
>>530868061>The Knight is manipulating Kris by using their guilt over what happened and the promise they made to keep them in control>ERAM wants Kris to indulge their lust for violence, power and freedom and gives them the means to combat the Knight, is somehow involved with the Weird Route which almost certainly derail whatever the Knight has plannedERAM as the Knight is nonsense
>>530868485Won't speak for "we" but I don't feel a sense of self-importance from this place for the fact that people here don't typically believe they affect the outside fandom at all. The one exception has been recently people showing where our green texts get reposted on Twitter or TikTok but those too are mostly just memes.
I genuinely think the format of an image board like this is really conducive to interesting & fun discussion. Yes it's easy for anyone to abuse and shit up and unfortunately that happens. But contrast it with xitter. Complete fucking scourge for discussion, that is. Like 200 character limit or something for a fucking post.
>>530867987>>530868297>They say this shit while people unironically talk about torturing kris as some sort of god and shit like "The homo shit needs to die"I hate all of you, so, so much.
>>530867853Well yeah mindless bots and npcs exist out of here
>>530866549I did. This should happen in the game.
I think in the present, Spamton is more obsessed than Tenna.
Think about it, while Tenna more openly harbours resentment towards Spamton, it's more along the lines of "I wish we never met in the first place". While the breakup did badly affect him, it's only one part of a bunch of other incidents that caused his life to spiral. He's also hung up the Holidays and Dreemurrs no longer watching him
Meanwhile Spammy FUCKING HATES Tenna, that one phone call ruined his entire life and it was all because of Tenna's greed! He harbors hatred for a lot of Darkners, but ESPECIALLY Tenna as evident by the sweepstakes. You know what they say about love and hate being 2 sides of the same coin? Even though Spamton knew of Tenna's death, he still wanted to kill him with his own hands. If he didn't originally love Tenna so much, he would've just been happy about that part of the prophecy and moved on.
Bro was imagining Tenna's [Cathode Screams] what a fucking faggot.
>>530868865the knight = asriel
friend = pizzapants
>>530868856>Just don't do it, you think ancient artists did line art lmao?They did you mongoloid, Davinci has hundreds of works where you can see it.
>>530867237This guy is baiting for engagement bucks and he's making BANK
also, he made all those normgroids on Twitter seeth ad infinitum.... based
>>530868947I don't really care that your life is miserable
>>530866429I don't know at what level of detail he wrote it then but I'm 100% sure he revised things when it became time to implement it, that's how such things go
>>530869010stop trying to make my green canon
>>530868642>Im a centristโฆ hehโฆ i think everyone is stupidThis but unironically, and that statement includes myself. we must be better.
>>530868895>The Knight is [a bunch of complete headcanon nonsense]you're literally making shit up
>>530868947I dont think about you at all
>>530868947Shut up Kris, you useless kek
I need more Kris acting like a dog.
https://www.nexusmods.com/deltarune/mods/23?tab=posts
ESSENTIAL MOD FOR ALL DELTARUNNERS
>>530869186kris wins at the end of this gif btw.
Alphys doesnโt look like this at all but DAMN KRIS YOU HATE THIS?
Only the Tenna and Spamtenna fuckers post new artwork, why don't you other fags post new shit instead of the same images over and over?
>>530868096Perhaps you should consider what the 'nice' 'teenagers' are doing that makes them worse.
>>530867237>all these seething twittards crying because he made a comment about rapeLegitimately hope we do get a war just so these faggots get to experience something other than being faggots online. The only reasonable post was by a tranny who said
>"well I don't like him but he's right we should be able to explore these concepts"
>>530868992My beloved trash men.
>>530869291>devaluing my rare ralseisnu-uh dont think so
>>530866149We are ideologically opposed. That will never happen. I want to Seal the Fountains, Kris wants to make more despite hearing the warnings. I would have been Ten Times the Delta Warrior that Kris is.
>>530869158given the mental state of the average anon on this general, your probably thinking about him and 15 other things at once.
>>530869318We were just shitting on this guy a thread ago. what happened?
spamton come get your dog
>>530868992>Spamton as a mailman (proper)>has to walk box to box>has to walk>exercise This is spamton abuse
>>530869440Kris is powerleveling
>>530868786This is just what Amerilard education is like, they have the schools open but if a kid isn't smart on their own they're gonna be as intelligent (retarded) as the school system wants them to be
>>530868857What the fuck.
>>530869293being teenagers online, retard.
>>530869541we really are fucked, aren't we?
>>530869281Kris hates weebery with a passion and Carol is a weeb, these seem related
>>530868857You've finally become a [BIG SHOT] but at what cost
watching that video made me realize none of you autists actually have any idea what your talking about beyond the lore schizos.
>>530869092Ya I am actually just disgusted. I know this is a pit of filth but damn man.
>>530868161You cant unrape the doe. I got my blessed vengeance from the disobedient cockroaches.
>>530868895The knight rewards kris for winning and the mantle is implied to belong to it.
>>530869291To be fair there's like 50 spamtenna artists and almost all of them post a new drawing everyday, this shit's like a mind virus and it's super addictive.
>>530869624You fool, you misunderstand. I bet no more than half of them are actually teenagers. The rest most likely 45 year olds larping.
Toby has said to expect multiple big things this year. Besides Chapter 3 and 4, what do you guys think is gonna happen?
>>530869391now that arby's and kris are brothers in deltarune, we'd like to take a moment to announce that AAAAA
>>530869846Merch. It already happened
>>530869846UNDERTALE x Tenga
>>530868947But the homo shit does need to die. I hate how the fanbase pulls the gay out of a hat. Your not allowed to have two men interact according to these people, everything is gay to them because they are degenerates.
>>530868096actual teens are posting racial slurs and racist videos on tik tok and instagram since it's not policed like youtube now is.
>>530869846A 1 inch tall Spamton figure that doubles in size every day
>>530868962/vg/ is the most botted board though
I love my vessel very very much.
>>53086984610th anniversary is gonna be huge probably
>>530869846on the 10th anniversary Tony will unveil the real life susie automaton with realistic flesh
>>530869318>all these seething twittards crying because he made a comment about rapeNo, I think they're just making fun of him in a very simplified way because they know they have the media literacy the retard in the video doesn't
this artist only draws pure SEXO
>>530869846UT 10th Anniversary thing
Would Ralsei love spongebob
>>5308678534chan and /utg/ are actually able to comprehend topics so we get much further much faster compared to everyone else
however, we definitely seem to have gotten worse in the amount of baiters acting like twitterfags for.... fun? i dunno they just keep doing it
>>530869846Undertale: The Squeakquel
>>530870089Media literacy is not for interactive media like vista. I want to kill The enemies, I am going to kill the enemies. I want to get Kris down to zero hp in every battle, I am going to get Kris down to zero hp in every battle. I want to rape the doe, I am going to rape the doe until I get someone to obey.
Good evening I love Tenna
>>530870259>actually able to comprehend topicsYou faggots can't even handle Kris being they/them or Susie being into Noelle
>>530870089>replacing a fairly subtle image witha more confusing one that obfuscates all intent is "media literacy" You're retarded like them, we get it.
second paragraph in full effect there
>>530870354Put the fucking crystal down
>>530870413*cums on your face*
>>530869440I will attach myself to Kris like a Koala so that he is physically incapable of walking to the fountains
>>530870413I dont want to participate in the fandom's mental illness. In the real world, there are no they/thems in sight. And two women interacting does not make them lesbiancas.
>>530869789The "reward" is making them kneel and there's a good chance it was for stabbing Susie and Ralsei in the back
Even if the mantle is a part of the Knight's full outfit (possibly something Dess worse if we go with Noelle's "it's for someone taller" comment) it was first at Seam's place, then apparently worn by King and neither of those two are the Knight, it could easily have just been taken by somebody else
>>530870146SEXO!!
That TV is gonna fuck that puppet soon
>>530870490Anon x anon toxic yaoi
>>530869291Because I do what I want, which is eating cuts of beef, fapping, and posting theories on here
You are my clown, not the other way around, dont forget it
>>530870413I can comprehend it just fine. Twittards on the other hand...
Toby BROKE patternfags...
>>530867237I don't know about the scene being "to confusing" but the new glass shattering animation is... to much, too violent, it completely changes the.. let's say, tempo of the scene
I still think the Rose is the best animation by far, not because "muh rape", but because it shows how little acts can completely destroy someone/something until it completely falls apart. The fuckinf red dot that I hate is a little better, but lacks visual clarity/flare
>tldr: he's right, but for the wrong reasons imo
* The air crackles with flame.
Oh no he posted it again...
>>530869291sorry i only make new images when a fey mood overtakes me
>>530870257No, Ralsei would be into fucked up suffering kino
(you)
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>>530870702you aint got no new art do ya fatty fatty fat fat
>>530870590>there are no they/thems in sightThere are, but you don't associate with anyone outside of your mom's house.
>two women interacting does not make them lesbiancasHow about the way they blush and flirt with each other? How about the way they literally dream about each other? How about when they actively make Kris leave the room so they can be alone together?
>>530867237There's a genuine point to be made about how removing the rose imagery makes the intended metaphor less effective. But I dislike how we can't have a mature conversation about it because one side just wants to make immature rape jokes and the other is too childbrained and scared of even thinking about sexual violence.
>>530870836holy fucking based
>>530870828it's good that Noelle refuses to acknowledge his existence.
>>530868923I've recently taken to browsing more social media to stay informed and I'm actually astounded at just how bad most sites actually are for discussion at length of any type. I mean, I already decided to browse mainly 4chan more than a decade ago basically because of the format being much more comfortable and anonimity being a plus because I detest keeping accounts and passwords, but I didn't realize just how bad other sites are until recently.
The combination of a model that incentivizes talking slowly and without paying immediate attention at whether someone responded to you so you're not really holding a conversation so much as just throwing messages into the void, and the short af character limits, make for an awful combination for any kind of real discussion. I guess it's not really a surprise that nowadays most people who browse social networks base their entire politics on just a series of shitty and shallow gotchas, memes and slogans that never even leave space for context or perspectives.
>>530870848And here we go again, the degenerates in the fanbase seeing the gay in every shadow.
>>530870727Who the fuck said Kris's race was up to interpretation?? Actual retard take
>>530870865Oh, its one of the last few reasonable people left in the world. Stay strong out there.
>>530870994All the fanartists who draw Kris Black or White do
>>530870994Yeah, he's obviously white
I mean, he clearly lives in a rural American small town
>>530870146Sad that image isn't more Tenna dick but holy shit, do they draw art of fantastic quality fast, that's a goal for me.
>>530870259>only reply i got was a fag proving my point about baiters>which then got a million replies because it works every timeit is what it is
Is setting my phoneโs ringtone to Third sanctuary a bad idea
>>530870413>Susie being into NoelleI understand it just fine, I just think it's shallow and forced af.
>>530871017If you can make the immature "tity" jokes and everything involved with Spamton and Tenna, the rape jokes should be the same level. It is the same thing.
>>530870848>There are, but you don't associate with anyone outside of your mom's house.The ironiy or this statement lol.
>>530870965>seeing the gay in every shadowThis is the average for right-wing intelligence
>>530871124Its a perfectly good ringtone
>>530871124Go ahead. But if I ever hear it in public I'm coming for you.
>>530870848You're literally here seething 24/7 about no one wanting to play pretend with your delusions lmfao
>>530871096Kris's race is #ffc90e
>>530870848At least my mom doesnt have a penis.
>>530871213I don't look for degeneracy. I don't have my mind in the gutter 24/7. Nor do I want to think about it. It's only the perverts who keep bringing it up.
>We're supposed to sympathize with the asshole that wears devil horns and is clearly helping the Knight do all this shit
Kris isn't a good person.
i'm scraping the bottom of the barrel in my art folder for spamtenna right now because i'm too tired to get up and draw new shit
>Fantastic thread happening on /v/, all game discussion
>Faggot mod insta locks it around 250 posts
>>530871331You seem plenty comfortable bringing it up right now, actually
>>530870259*chomps* *gulps* *wipes lips with handkerchief* For the freedom of it all.
>>530871124Seems fine, I've had the Undernet sound as my text tone for like 7 years now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJEAUBefcN8
>>530870865I think the rape metaphor was intended but Toby walked it back because he realized it really WAS too intense for what he is going for.
If you include rape, or something allegorical to it, that story now becomes pretty focused on rape. I don't think the weird route is going to be the "rape is bad route" (Despite, rape, being bad), it is a twisted power fantasy, the average person who wants a power fantasy doesn't want to rape teens lmao, they want to break the game and get stronger. And imagine the optics of "Noelle got raped so hard she was mindbroken and became a puppet for the player" that's probably something Toby doesn't want to touch. If the weird route is leading to us controlling or possessing Noelle, it seems insane for the evil route to be "You raped her until you could become her" so he just said, yeah nevermind.
>>530871414i gave up on good threads a long time ago, now i sit in here with these assholes all day instead
I LOVE TENNA!!!! I LOVE TV!!!!!
>>530871314And what are you doing besides seething when you see genderposting?
>>530871410his jammies...
YOU MAY ASK, WHO IS NEXT?
YOU MAY ASK, WHO WILL STRIVE?
WHO WILL BE THE SECRET BOSS,
OF ADVENTURE NO 5?
>>530871414It is a more than tried and tested fact that if you're discussing one of the videogames that the mod doesn't like, if you make it shitty on purpose and all conversation on it is just pointless and vitriolic shitflinging, he'll leave it alone. But if it's a good thread that stays on topic and generates interesting discussion, he'll crack down extra fast and hard.
If Susie was a Flowey would you trust her
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>>530871414>Fantastic thread happening on /v
>>530868658That's not a vagina, he just got too fat to have his penis visible.
https://files.catbox.moe/z0iafh.jpg
>>530871124If it makes it any better my ringtone is a Mario song
>>530871492I'll have to do the same, how have I not thought about this?
>>530871272ELEC/HOLY SECRET BOSS OF CHAPTER 6
>>530871689only if she flirted with me every now and then, i'd be very susceptible to such attacks hahaha
>>530871443Only as a response. Only to deny. In normal circumstances, the topic is not mentioned by me at all.
All I want is to open a "Light Fountain" to Kris' world and hug them. It's all I ask for.
>>530871410Well here's one. Got this one yet?
>>530870259theorycrafting everywhere has devolved into fanon shit, we just got there faster.
>>530871414Ommmfffggggg for the last time what else is there to talk about the """""""""game""""""""" literally all good discussion are theories and characters there is nothing to talk about the game because it's a VN you make we know all the choices we know what they lead to for the few late anons we give tips on how to dodge this or that attack which is the MOST gameplay this game has
Blame Toby for releasing two chapters that are done in 20 hours
>>530871806spamton looks almost too pleasant here. i'm scared
>>530871124i've been vibrate-only for years, maybe i should think of finally having a ringtone for once...
>>530870413>Doesn't understand the difference being comprehending and handlingI genuinely think the anons here UNDERSTAND Kris is nonbinary and what it means for the story, they just don't care and dislike it. They comprehend it and understand, they just don't "agree". Which I think is stupid but, I also think there's a discussion to be had about how you don't have to agree with an author and their message to be able t understand that message.
>>530870639Kris was knighted anon, that's one of the greatest signs of respect physically possible. The knight was proud.
>>530871946I'll do freedom motif for mine if you do
>>530871776yeah because you don't know and nonbinary or gender ambiguous people irl, dumbass. not everything revolves around you.
>>530871586You realize that you're the one crying about being a delusional freak and I'm not, right?
You'll always be a miserable freak and I won't lol
>>530872053what is the point of engaging with a game's story if you're going to fight against the message?
>>530870413>they/themBait to surprise the player to lull them into thinking Kris was a self-insert in chapter 1, Has long outlived its usefulness
>Susie being into NoelleI understand that its forced and the creator loves his chungus lesbians like Undyne and Alphys. I can understand why they get along in-narrative, but meta-narratively I see what's going on and it's underbaked and both of those characters have more interesting relationships and at this point I don't think Suselle could be salvaged, it needs more time to cook
>>530871818i'd rather devolve into fanon shit faster than deal with retards who think checking your phone after kris was just on it is somehow an unexpected move
can we talk about faves instead
>>530871414We had a decent 600 post thread a few hours ago.
We have to figure out his sleep schedule.
>>530872225>You'll always be a miserable freak and I won't lol>Is on 4chananon..
>>530872253spite and sunk cost mainly i'd assume.
>>530871414How much of this game discussion was shipfaggotry?
>>530872053Kris being nonbinary means literally nothing for the story. This is your headcanon.
>>530871615MAYBE THEY A FRIEND, BUT ME CAN'T LIE
MY LOVE FOR SPAMTON, WILL NEVER DIE
>>530871131It is absolutely shallow but it's not forced. You gotta think of the type of character susie is, the constantly alone and neglected type. Susie likes noelle because she was the only person ever nice to her. Susie will innturn get ironically crushed when she realizes just how shallow noelle's interest in HER is.
>>530871414You can email about mod problems
>>530871345Kris isn't a good person, but angels can fall
I always thought the flower animation to be more related to the thorn ring. It wasnโt till I sadly decided to check the deltarune fandom when I discovered that people saw it as Kris raping the fuck out of Noelle on her couch
hot
Do you like BIG SHOT!Spamtenna with Spamton comically tiny or with a less extreme height difference?
>>530870865I feel the same way
>>530871508I don't think Toby intended to fully "walk back" how "rapey" (anyone have a better word? I don't like "SA-coded" much either) the weird route is because that's just so baked into chapter 2.
>"Noelle will ride with me">Noelle just going "..." and looking down when looking at the poster where normally she reflects that Kris is the only person "she can say no to">Saying "were something else" instead of "we're friends" to the dating shoes guy then making Noelle get the ring >Putting the thorn ring on her, the marriage symbolism more generally>Backing Noelle into the zapper to make her do the mouse puzzle as she becomes increasingly afraid of Kris>YOU'VE BEEN [Making], HAVEN'T YOU! MAKING [Hyperlink blocked]!>"Side Chick" and "Hochi Mama">Pic related happens if you input directional movement during Noelle's dialog box when she notices Kris is with her in the hospital The route plays up romantic/sexual undertones between Kris & Noelle as well as physically forcing a girl to do stuff.
Then in ch4 you have Noelle thinking "why can't I move?!" and saying Kris had promised to protect her. Kris 'penetrates' Noelle with a 'thorn' until she bleeds and something is possibly implanted in her.
I think the purpose of removing the rose was because it accidentally implied that, when the screen went black, Kris may have *literally* sexually violated Noelle. And that was not intended. The "deflowering" idea was too potentially suggestive. That's the only thing that makes sense to me. Because when you look at the body of evidence, this is "the sexual assault route". It just is. I don't take any creepy pleasure in that, I can't imagine where Toby is going with it, but it clearly what Toby very purposefully wrote and wants to express.
can spamton produce enough cum to make tenna fart semen all day or is it like a droplet and that makes their sex life miserable
>>530872353You literally just implied indirectly that you are a miserable freak LMFAO
>>530872397>Toby Fox literally confirms that Kris uses They/Them pronouns>"HURHFGHGHGH WHO SAID THAT KRIS IS THEY/THEM THAT IS YOUR HEADCANON"faggot
>>530872253Because it is just Toby's opinion at the end of the day, the game is just his way of delivering his opinion, and like all opinions you can disagree with that message and discuss it.
Like, if the message of the genocide route is truly "completionism is bad" I could make an argument on why I disagree with that message. (Not to say that IS the message there are other valid interpretations of what the genocide route may be saying)
You cannot convince me anyone who thinks "Kris is nonbinary!" is actually a message of the story and not just a part of the background infomration at best is actually here legitimately.
I mean jesus guys are you really THAT hooked on (You)s?
Do we really know anything about Ralsei and how they might (definitely are) connected to Asriel/Kris?
I wonder if Knight is a dark world version of Dess (which I don't know if anyone has pointed out, but is the Japanese pronounciation of 'death')
>>530872767To be fair, /utg/ is an incredibly easy (You) farm. They fall for the exact same bait every single day, so much that they will derail threads over it.
>>530872053They know it's not. Because protagonists being called They to establish ambiguity has been in effect far longer than your brand.
You have more leverage than normal with Kris being at odds with the player but even that isn't enough to cover the fact that your thousand-times collected "evidence" is still being multiplied by a big fat zero credibility to them actually definitively being something rather than ambiguous.
>>530872757Yeah, his pronouns mean nothing for the story. Don't know why you're forcing this headcanon
>>530872619I prefer if they are a little closer in height but still with a noticeable difference. Tenna being larger but the bottom is nice too.
I'm liberally applying justice to the monster population in Yellow, and Ceroba's up next on the chopping block.
And I am having a bad time.
Any tips for her genocide fight, or do I just need to git gud?
>>530872305At least they can talk about factual in-game shit and not the weaved story of BS built on unconfirmed opinions. 90% of theoryshit is just dess and carol now, with a spattering of rudy. Even if you bring up other shit there's people trying to find ways for it to be dess. Dess ruined theory talk worse than mike and woody combined.
>>530872431>Susie likes noelle because she was the only person ever nice to her.Toriel? Ralsei? Lancer?
Hell, Kris once she realizes Kris could have fucking shanked her at any point and didn't?
All of them were nice to Susie without expecting anything in return and before Susie had her heel face turn. Hell, all Noelle did was hand her a pencil. That's ridiculously little effort compared to everyone else for how much it seemingly affected Susie.
>>530872627I dont care. It failed to scare me. I dont view Darkners as people, and Noelle talking back is just like when Kris does it.
>>530869992Like rabid fangirls haven't been doing this since as far back as the early 2000s. Just because it's not as hidden now doesn't mean it wasn't happening before.
>>530872627The problem with this interpretation is it's framed around making noelle become stronger, and noelle literally becomes/feels stronger afterwards
The way that she fawns after kris doesn't seem to be emulating the experience of sexual assault
>>530872991I beat it on my second try so idk what to tell you man
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>>530871709I MUST SUCK THE SWEET, SUCCULENT NECTAR FROM HIS FAT PAD
>>530872619CAR SEEEEEEEXXXXXXXXXXXX
i like an accurate extreme height difference. the comedy of it is essential and it would be ooc to water it down
>>530873001Dessโฆ Carolโฆ
>>530872431Susie congratulating Noelle on getting the "mouse" feels so forced that it comes across as patronizing and sarcastic
>>530872996>worse than mike and woody combined.okay are you actually unable to not bring up 'mike and woody' every time you post? because i swear you do this every fucking time
you're pretty fucking recognisable at this point
>>530872065And getting knighted is something you receive from your ruler, the point is to both honor the knightee and to make sure they know their place, that's why you have to kneel for it
It's important that Kris isn't already kneeling when the knighting starts but the Knight pushes them down onto their knees, even if they are satisfied with Kris's performance (whether it was for putting up a good fight or for backstabbing Susie) it's also clearly a power move and a "know your place" thing
>>530872991There's no RNG so you can just memorize the whole fight
>>530873042I always hated it. The nuts did it with the Lord of the Rings, and I hate it in this case as well
>>530867828Timestamp it not watching 40 minutes of bait
>>530872996Or more specifically, the KNIGHT ruined theory talk. For some reason the knight inspires the most boring, shallowest interpretations possible. Even with dess being the knight it's interpreted in the most absolutely BORING way imaginable. That one twitter faggot was right about you guys having a chronic case of making the game boring as shit
>>530873149>HOLY SHIT NOELLE, YOU ACTUALLY *PICKED UP* THE MOUSE?? DAMN YOU'VE GOT GUTS (actual quote)The fact this was written into the game as something Susie would say is just so fucking ridiculous.
Hell the fact Susie would get scared of a "mouse" is ridiculous to begin with. Get jumpscared in the dark, yes, but once that passed, Susie would literally chomp the fucking mouse herself and laugh about it. Not shit her panties and hide behind Noelle. Who the fuck is this and what did you do with MY Susie?
>>530873313personally im still sticking with papyrus or some sort of nightmare creature for what the knight is
>>530873313Alright, tell me what's so boring about it and I'll do my best to entertain you in a reasonable manner.
>>530869992>homo shitEvery time I read that I hear it in Chris-chan's voice.
>>530873020All of that came after anon. Noelle being nice to her early on was a defining moment.
>>530873313Its funny that tons of knight theories (kris knight, oberon smaug, dess knight) ended up all being in some aspect true despite not being necessarily correct on the central point about being the knight
>>530873330WIN WIN WIN WIN WIN
i really like when his screen illuminates the scene it's so cute
>>530873356it's almost as bad as that snake shit from deltatraveler someone posted a few threads ago
i say 'almost' because at least it's just relegated to the awkward suselle moments and isn't a part of the greater whole
>>530873330really like how the cyber world background looks in this
>>530873356>Susie would literally pick up a mouse off the ground and eat it and laughDisproven by the Susie french fry rap
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>>530872991Don't cling to the borders of the box when she's in her second phase, it'll reduce your max HP. Hell, try your hardest to avoid any attack which produces red light in general, it'll do the same thing.
>>530873061Like I said, I have no idea where Toby is going with Noelle thanking you, and I'm not even going to try to write a continuation for him. But everything fits until ch4 dark world. In ch4 light world she fawned after Kris because while we weren't in control, Kris went to her house, convinced her it was all a terrible prank, and promised to protect her. Noelle in turn felt like Kris was rekindling whatever their relationship was, and was particularly happy that Kris's "deadpan mumbly" own voice returned.
I don't know what it will mean for Toby's allegory that Noelle says "thank you" and wants to go to the festival tomorrow with Kris. Maybe it is about coping that she'd wanted it to deal with the trauma of her friend doing this to her, but that's simple speculation. But nonetheless, the allegory is already in the game. I think ch2 up to ch4 light world is unmistakably a sexual assault allegory.
On weird route Gerson can also ask Kris if they're having "relationship troubles" which I think is kinda mask-off.
>>530873356I wonder if Noelle is the original girl in the Prophecy and Susie is whatever Noelle is now, meaning that Susie gets forced into acting more like Noelle whenever they're around.
>>530872619I don't have a preference when it comes to art, but when I'm writing or reading fic, I like a smaller height difference when during the Big Shot era and an extreme one during the present day. I'm a big fan of the "Spamton was just a little short when he was an Addison (about 5'8") and only became a midget when he turned into a puppet" theory. It also opens way more opportunities for writing porn.
So there's definitely some significance to the fact that Titan Spawn look exactly like human embryos right?
>>530872672Current cums NEO buckets but it stinks more
Chapters V-VII come out in 2040. Unfortunately, Tobias Radiation died before it came to fruition, his mind was converted into AI and split between two fandom camps. You have to choose:
>The theoryfreaks win: Papyrus is the Knight, third entity Woody, Eram Friend Gaster whatever, the whole lore turns out to be some schizo corkboard nonsense that requires full memorization of Earthbound Halloween Hack NPC dialogue to truly understand but at least no ships or gender nonsense are confirmed because the implications of a random garden snake being killed or spared are more important
>The genderfreaks win: the game has a passable, fairly straightforward, emotional resolution but everyone is a nonbinary lesbian in a 3-way poly relationship and the worst african-american Kris with breast surgery scars tumblr headcanons are embodied in the flesh
Which do you choose?
I love how soft and cozy this is
>>530873450Dess is a dark world corrupted/reanimated monster, carol is a generic schemer, kris' character motivations are rewritten to be "muh dess gotta save my friend's sister" and it's all just gonna be undertale again.
Like the game already established that kris has aspirations of being a big shot and has fucked around and found out at least once with spamton, doesn't this make for a more interesting and tragic motivation when their glory-based association with the knight starts hurting people around them?
Do you guys prefer the Spamton/Tenna fags posting gay shit or the gender posting
>>530872757I'm not playing along with the mental illness. I have my little modtool for that.
>>530873818That and the fact Ralsei immediately goes into KILL IT KILL IT KILL IT mode both
>>530873824This is a false dichotomy because the first option sounds hilarious and would be worth playing
https://x.com/tobyfox/status/1442849515887792140
what does this mean
>>530873330GIWTWM
It's not fucking fair, bros...
I'm seeing everyone drawing Dess with dark hair, why is that? Headcanon or is it hinted at somewhere. Because Rudy maybe?
>>530873201>>530873695Thanks guys, I'll keep plugging away at it.
>>530873652The french fry rap is character development, she absolutely would have ate it in chapter 1.
>The knight is the worst thing that ever happened to Deltarune theory talk
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>>530872619I like big shot spamton being just quite short, but current spamton being a fucking midget next to tenna. It's just hot to think about tenna, a guy so tall with such big thighs straddling spamton to sit on his small dick. I love size difference!
>>530873473A defining moment? She fucking handed her a pencil. And it's something we don't even learn until chapter fucking 4, once they're already alone in a room putting up excuses for why this ship totally works. And your argument was that she was the ONLY person who was ever nice to her, not just the first.
>>530873964Why are you so sexually interested in other men, anon?
Some shitty elninas
I love her so much bros
>>530874082KRIS FUCKING HATES RALSEI AND NOELLE
>>530874082>(Umm, do they like it or not...?)Hey there's that plot thread
>>530873818They're human eggs
>>530874072pretty sure it's because of rudy, yeah
>>530873806I think it's literally just kris forcing her to get stronger. She's conflicted because she's being forced to do something that makes her uncomfortable, but it deals with an aspect of herself she doesn't like in the process
There are parallels to sexual assault because of the pressure/coercion, but that's where the parallels end
The rose, I think, was meant to make those parallels explicit but it took things too far and toby had to walk it back
>>530873940I'm actually contributing to the thread by posting art. Don't drag me into your retarded culture war.
>>530874082And one of the devs brought it back by making it so if you choose "you don't have to smile" Ralsei's tea bumps up to +100 HP for Kris...
>>530874072Because she has a baseball bat and a guitar and shit. It's black hair dye
>>530873818no. many animal embryos look like that at that stage.
>>530874147I'm not the one posting pictures of Spamton and Tenna fucking each other.
How insulated do you think Toby is from fanart? I mean he HAS to have noticed the overwhelming amount of fanart is in fact not for Suselle right? He's been making this game for 7 years now. He has to have caught on what the people want.
>>530874139>And it's something we don't even learn until chapter fucking 4It's chapter 2
Secondary detected
>>530874258Posting softcore TV-man porn and saying "HURGHGHGHGH I WANNA FUCK TENNA" is not contributing to the thread, anon
>>530874404now he's built loike a tru brexit geezer
>>530874354Suselle is confirmed doomed but you guys are all too dense to see the signs
>>530873356>The two, major, character defining traits for Noelle and Susie are that one's incredibly cowardly and the other is brave to the point of stupidly shittalking the Knight to it's face.>Suselle scene happens.>Suddenly, Susie is a coward that hides behind Noelle.There are people that will look at this and find nothing wrong with it my god.
>>530874405What, you expect the people getting a hemorrhoid about teenage lesbians on here all day to have actually played the game?
>>530874404>CAM OHN KRIS>SEAL THE FAHKIN' FOUNTAIN
>>530874485Good. He can kill it with a hammer, or I'll kill it with a scalpel.
>>530874354He actively looks at it. It was i think on his Bluesky account he outright said "I won" because so many people draw Susie resting her snout on Kris's head, and that was apparently one of the first traits he wrote about Susie.
>>530874315Okay but these are intentionally humanoid.
>>530874405>It's chapter 2Oh right, sorry, the ferris wheel, whatever. Still basically waited to inform us until reaching a scene where they suddenly start pulling reasons out their ass why it totally works.
"You handed me a pencil so now I owe being nice to you". Holy shit, what does that get everyone else that did so much more for you then?
>>530874135>Pre-schizo Spamton's dick was already on the short side but it shrunk even more when he got FRIENDedI'd go insane too.
Saw the most retarded theory ever today. The theory said that Dess was a human. Which anyone with basic reading comprehension would know makes zero sense.
>>530874594I bet you thought this sounded so badass in your head.
>>530874565Yes. I look at the parts of the game that actually hold value to me. The perceived homo shit does not.
>>530874616No it's not, it has a snout and a protruding back head
>entering Year 4 of /v/irgin spergs having a melty about Suselle
How did he do it?
>>530874485Are you allowed to do that in current year? Wouldn't you be automatically burnt at the stake if you portray a lesbian romance not working out?
>>530874082Something something krusie agenda
>>530874616how? Nothing about it is specifically humanoid.
>>530874820by writing a really, really shit lesbian ship?
>>530874805Nah, just all around pissed. It's a promise, though. I did it successfully very recently, I can do it again.
>>530873940DarknerDEITIES run this general while mortals quibble about genderSHIT and deltateenshipTRASH.
>>530874845Kris being they/them is the ultimate out. All of Kris's pairings are considered "queer".
The thread is fighting again...
>>530874658tenna still likes it....it's cute and gets the job done
>>530872991Way too late for this if you didnt already do it but for future reference, you can still get the silver scarf in Justice which I find really helpful for Ceroba's fight because most of her "Real" damage is pretty low, you just spare Dalv and do the quest for it while making up for the lost EXP, and youll get put right back on Justice
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>>530874845doomed yaoi/yuri is quite popular lately
>>530874820He made it suck ass.
>>530874607I wouldn't be surprised if we end up seeing a newsletter sprite of Tenna with an extension cord tail down the line. There's no way Toby hasn't been exposed to that side of the community yet.
>>530873926What do you think were Kris' motivations before the development of the chapter? Be more specific in the description of what could have been
>>530874845If he introduces a better lesbian romance or does some very slow deliberate talk about boundaries or not being ready for a relationship, they're obligated to agree or else their "friends" will tear them alive for not agreeing with healthy relationship discussion. It just has to be played so specifically that there's no room for misinterpretation and that them being together would be undoubtedly worse for both of them
>>530865547>what the fuck is Toriel doing hereWhoring
>>530874978Please elucidate I'm begging you
>>530874485Carol told noelle something about susie that is going to implode any potential for friendship, let alone romance.
>susie... were you ever going to tell me about your dad?
>>530874845Almost as it's better to not do it, eh? I wouldnt have done this, if I was in charge. Not even a hint. Not everyone playing the game is a pervert.
>>530874282I've been saying this since the moment Toby announced having a full team, said team will be the reason the quality of the game dips dramatically. Cut or not, they genuinely forgot We arent Kris and cant just make him change his opinion on a character through a single dialogue choice
>>530873356The entire basement section was out of character. Susie would've lifted the angel herself, she's not afraid, and if Toby wanted to frame it like Susie was letting Noelle have a moment he could've done better.
The whole thing sucked and if this is how he decides to move forward and make them a couple, then the whole end of the game is gonna suck ass.
>>530874932>>530875084If it was actually bad, at least one person would have been able to explain why they think it's bad without grossly misinterpreting scenes, seething with incel rage or just fucking lying
But... that hasn't happened yet
MY TRAINS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANzokA2EsMI
why didn't boty give kris eyes
>>530875262Please explain to us how
>>530873149>>530873356 is overly exaggerated.
>>530874937You have no idea how much such a (you) means to me
HURGHGHGHGH I WANNA FUCK SPAMTON AND TENNA
>>530875002I imagine Spamton can change his dick size like he does his head or other parts, maybe even go partially NEO for a time. Enough to satisfy Tenna at least.
I love art like this, tenna and spamton before meeting each other....they really rocked each other's worlds
>>530874491You're right but I'm sure yurifags are seething and trying to say Susie just puts on a brave face and is actually scared of everything based on the few moments Susie does actually get startled or afraid.
What is Tenna thinking about?
>>530874149dont stop drawing
>>530875262not any of those anons but I find it incredibly underwhelming because every scene with the two interacting plays out too similarly to feel that there's been any growth despite the game being more than halfway over. Noelle acts like a crushy blushy mess that stutters and stammers and says things she doesn't mean and Susie plays oblivious to Noelle's obviously romantically charged awkward behavior over and over again.
>>530875258The end was always going to suck. Toby fox doesn't know how to write a cohesive story and relies on speculation bait for 90% of it. There's no fulfilling ending he could possibly do for any route that will answer everything at this point
>>530874135How do manlets gain such confidence? I spend every day wanting to kill myself.
>>530875176I got the tinygayheart(cute name, Toby) out of the credits of my Undertale. And the bit where Alphys and Undyne kiss.
>>530875421I'm convinced every problem can be reduced to yurifags having no standards whatsoever
New update 2 days ago just found out about it now what was new?
If you throw the juice at alphys then reload your save and throw it again you can secretly enter the juicegrave route
>Noelle has a tiny bit of character growth getting over her skittishness carry over from chapter 2 and showcases it in one scene for two seconds
>Susie isn't cowering, she isn't going "o-o-o-o-o-h n-n-n-n-n-no a mousie TASUKETE NOELLE SAMAAA" she just lets Noelle do it and then compliments her for being a little less of a pussy
>TOBY FOX DESTROYED HIS CHARACTERS JUST SO HE COULD RAPE ME.
It is so, so hard to take you guys seriously about this when you have such gigantic overreactions about every single thing that happens when these two are on screen
>>530867472Option 1 but only if it's Susie
What are the chances Toby actually references Spamton and Tenna's relationship again in future chapters? Sadly I just don't really see him giving us any more of them let alone a good ending for the two of them.
What is Tenna thinking about
>>530875604>Second Kris In Dess' Closet Removed
>>530875565Easy solution. Dont do it, then, at all. Dont indulge Toby's fetish.
>>530875604The second Kris in Dess's closet has been removed.
>>530875371>I imagine Spamton can change his dick size like he does his head or other partsoh for sure, i'm sure tenna enjoys some belly bulge from time to time
>>530875542spamton has charisma, is funny and i have a feeling he can be romantic when he's not having one of his episodes. I mean, tenna fell for him for a reason
>>530875706I literally thought that was spamton on the thumbnail
>>530873926Alright.
Carol is aware of the prophecy in it's (near) entirety and not only that but knew it before anyone else. Her entire persona past a certain point is crafted, build up upon trying to fufil events that will be the best for everyone.
However her personality, the one that attracted eternal smiling Rudy was warped by this attempt and as things went wrong it partially morally corrupted her past her mask.
Here comes Dess. A punk survivalist who's tough as can be. She's the perfect candidate to actually survive the trials and hard choices needed for someone to make the prophecy turn out happily. Carol teaches her things she never teaches Noelle, or even lets her get the hint of knowing. In order to ensure Noelle is kept out she literally keeps her out of the house sometimes.
A crucial event is orchestrated by the Prophecy team, with Dess playing a carefully cultivated and well-practiced role. Everyone's rooting for her but it's something she has to do alone to get this prophecy working and off the rails.
But Kris came.
Attracted to the cool girl, young Kris fucked everything up. Not intentionally of course, but with some choices that even then he knew were wrong. A temptation he shouldn't have ever had to face, or a test not many can beat but everyone should be able to.
Dess isn't the knight, they're fucking scattered to oblivion. But unlike Gaster, Carol's fail-safes mean she has a solid chance to return. So Kris works together to get that to happen. She's still the best candidate to unseat the prophecy. But Kris is kinda a horrible person. And failing that test wasn't the end. When they fucked everything up someone else offered them a third way. FRIEND, Gaster, Chronos, Chara it doesn't really matter. Now Kris is scheming against Carol to get everything they wanted.
Enter (YOU)
The shot in the dark of someone, you are here to set Kris on the right path. Or make them flirt with people and do minigames, it's a long shot you'll actually fix anything.
>>530875430>>530875706haha this guy forgot the image
>>530874149continue drawing but at a brisk pace
>>530874282SHOOTING MY SHOT ONCE AGAIN:THE PREDICTION PILE DON'T STOP GETTING TALLER
We are gonna get fresh new character tea's in the flower chapter.
>>530875430*waddles into ex's mind*
>>530875687I'd settle for them appearing together during the final "everyone is here" moment at the end of the game. Maybe they could finish eachother's sentences or something.
>>530875749NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>530875604they got rid of dess' sex doll
>>530875604Dess lost her Kris sex doll.
>>530875262Are you used to getting more replies than this?
That's how chapter 5 ends. Kris beats the shit out of Sans and bonds with Toriel.
https://files.catbox.moe/qbbm8a.jpeg
The face of neverending suicidal agony over being betrayed
>>530875542>How do manlets gain such confidence?Doesn't happen irl, unfortunately
>>530875687they may reference each other in the future again. Another whole scene together? not likely. a happy ending? anon....this is toby we're talking about. no one will get a happy ending
>>530875542the worst aspect of a manlet is the seething. stop focusing on things you can't change and accept yourself. i've never thought less of a guy because of his height but i've always thought less of a guy trying to overcompensate for his height
>>530875706cute but looks too twinkish here...his face should be wider and more square, maybe with some wrinkles and fat on his body too
>>530875421>Susie's first reaction upon reaching Ralsei's/King's dark worlds was to go on a fucking violent rampage attacking every darkner in her path, some of which were seriously scary looking.>This was all before ANY character development happened for Susie, or she got used to any legit scary things happening in her life, or even learned how to fight and how strong she is at all.>We're supposed to believe Susie by chapter 4 would run away in abject terror and hide behind others because of a MOUSE.And now that I mentioned it, it's also funny af how Susie receiving a pencil is apparently a super life changing event that makes her not bully one person in particular, but Ralsei welcoming her into his kingdom, telling her she's actually a hero with a great destiny, that she's welcome and she will go on many amazing adventures, gets Susie to tell him to eat shit and die before leaving and allying with the world destroying bad guys. Yeah I guess THAT wasn't a big enough even compared to a pencil, huh?
>>530875420I fucking LOVE the idea that Tenna grew a nose to imitate Spamton. It's so fucking stupid and exactly what he'd do.
>>530875262I only need one reason to hate it. Because it's sick and disgusting. That's it. I hate it because it's disgusting, and I dont want that content to even be discussed on my channel when its time for the let's play.
>Rose patched out in 24 hours despite having to have been a creative decision they thought about for months if not years
>Insane 2Kris detail takes a whole fucking month to patch, in a game where the idea of Kris having a doppelganger somewhere is explicitly set up at the start of the game
>>530864656They were meant to be together
>>530875116Kris is isolated and alone, feeling inadequate and powerless with his brother off to college to become a "big shot"
A manipulative character of unknown identity discovers them, sees easy prey, and manipulates them with false compliments and visions of glory. Says it is their friend, that they have the makings of a bigshot, that they can get everything they want if they just make a deal.
And so kris becomes a living puppet, enslaved. the fountains open. kris gets to be the hero, the champion of the prophecy. But kris is quickly learning what real friendship is, that the knight does not have their best interests in mind. But it's too late to turn back, the knight got what it wanted. They must accept everything that will happen from now on.
>>530875630>>Susie isn't cowering, she isn't going "o-o-o-o-o-h n-n-n-n-n-no a mousie TASUKETE NOELLE SAMAAA"No, that is quite literally what she does. She literally hides behind Noelle. You need to rewatch the scene, Susie re-enters the scene by standing behind Noe- ah who am I kidding, you don't give a fuck.
I humbly request soul-play greens or images. Itโs such a cool concept I wish got explored more
>>530875798Please take your meds, schizo-kun
>>530875565> can be reduced to yurifags having no standards whatsoeverThatโs a well known issue. Suselle just exists. Thatโs its only achievement, Iโm sure some yurifags are delighted at it because what you said, but for the rest its just an underwhelming ship, beaten to a pulp by virtually any other fan ship.
Reminds me of the discord that usually happens with Japanese manga with multiple ships: the main and winning ship almost always ends being the most sterile shit ever while the other doomed ships have more effort put into them
>>530875542Why? I'm 5'5 and I couldn't give a fuck
>>530875986Ralsei was giving her orders and she doesn't take those
A free pencil is a free pencil
>>530875630Suselle haters slip on their spaghetti trying to reason it makes Susie and Noelle out of character when that's not really it.
The issue is simply but, it feels boring because it serves neither character. Susie has become a much more open and happier person because of her adventures with Kris, Ralsei and the other darkners enough so you don't need Noelle being nice to her as an explanation to sustain her character growth. You could say Noelle feels inspired by Susie to enjoy the fun of danger and excitement, but that's not what really happens, all the action she gets is alongside Kris in Chapter 2, she just exposes her feelings to Susie but the writing wants to pretend Noelle is developing because of their bond on exposition alone.
Basically Toby accidentaly made everything in the story better than Suselle and it's ultimately kind of a superfluous feature in the story hamfisted into having more importance than it deserves.
>>530875982To be fair to manlet's it is currently socially acceptable to shittalk short people relentlessly. My parents have a friend who is 5 foot 2 and you would think his shortness is the only possible topic of conversation while he's around. I don't think any other uncontrollable human trait is as made fun of in current year than being short.
>>5308756871111%, we haven't even seen mike yet and there's an entire version of the chase that contains hey every.
>>530875327Friends. Of boyish nature. One could call them... boyfriends.
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>>530873993It means that Toby has strange fetishes that he projects onto his characters.
(I'm not going to lie, some of the dialogue in chapter 3 and 4 were excruciating to read.)
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>>530875334>>530873149>Susie congratulating Noelle on getting the "mouse" feels so forced that it comes across as patronizing and sarcasticIf you weren't an autist and/or seething with hatred, you would not think for a second that praising a girl whose defining character trait is being scared for being brave enough to take the initiative handling a mouse is in any way insincere or mean-spirited.
>>530873356>Susie would literally chomp the fucking mouse herself and laugh about itShe's not a fucking animal, she's not going to eat a rat alive. What the fuck is the matter with you?
>Not shit her panties and hide behind NoelleThey're approaching it together dipshit, nobody is hiding behind anyone. She was ready to smash it, Noelle took initiative and she praised her for it.
>>530875986>itโs stupid that Susie is so distrusting of Ralsei, a complete fucking stranger>meanwhile people have been theorizing Ralsei is secretly evil since 2018nice people are inherently untrustworthy
>>530876152>the main and winning ship almost always ends being the most sterile shit ever while the other doomed ships have more effort put into themThis is extremely consistent and I have no idea why.
>>530876349Thanks anon, I deleted my Holiday household save file forever ago.
>>530876320oh i'm aware. i'm 5'1 lol
dudes get it so much worse though. it's so dumb
>>530874234>The rose, I think, was meant to make those parallels explicit but it took things too far and toby had to walk it backYou would have to be literally medically retarded to not realize the parallels between the ch4 scene and rape just by the way that it is
>>530876067Toby thinks it's funny to make theoryfags squirm with insane shit
>>530873292https://youtu.be/aU5N84F8bxc?t=1538
>>530876378>She's not a fucking animal, she's not going to eat a rat alive. What the fuck is the matter with you?Then just fucking punts it away, it was just a random thing she could do you autist.
>They're approaching it together dipshit, nobody is hiding behind anyone.>>530876349And it's even worse than I remembered because in my memory, Susie was standing at a slight angle at least. But no, she actually is just fully behind Noelle.
All of this sadness could've been prevented if I just had my vessel. Now billions must be saved
I had a dream/nightmare last night about Dess being the Knight and also stalking me. She broke into my apartment and hid in my hallway closet and spent about an hour and a half huffing my worn jacket with a creepy grin on her face, waiting for me to come home. The moment I came home and had my back turned away from the closet she jumped out and pinned me down, slamming herself onto my dick against my will. She had a knife against my throat the whole time and the moment I climaxed she slit my neck wide open. The worst part is that I secretly enjoyed it until the moment I bled out and lost consciousness. I'm starting to think I'm not sound of mind.
>>530868947Shut up, homo.
>>530876151Okay fine, Kris fucked up the prophecy, Carol is secretly trying to save everyone and can be cute, Dess was trained to fulfil a role in the prophecy, (You) are a last ditch attempt by someone else to save Kris from a dark path, and Dess is actually the knight.
There, happy?
>>530876542So the ice-e inflatable in their basement just means mothing?
>>530876597I'm pretty sure that screenshot was after Noelle started walking. It's disingenuous
>>530872730I wasn't that anon you were arguing with, retard
>>530876139>>530876349>>530876443>>530876542>>530876597>Grown men completely mindbroken over a teen girl complimenting her friend instead of A Nice Guy like them
>>530876637what the fuck why can't i have dreams like that
Every time I see a post I don't care about or don't care for on here, I mentally purify ane convert it into a delicious cake or cookie that I then feed to Spamton. I've been doing this since 2021.
>>530871508>>530872627I think the rape metaphor is definitely still there. Even if we never saw the flower sprite you still had everything else in that scene and Kris beating the shit out of (you) afterwards. The Weird Route generally touches upon lack of agency and emotional abuse and at this point it would be pretty ignorant to just pretend sexual abuse isn't prevalent in these types of relationships.
Also, forcing a ring onto someone as a metaphor for rape has been done before(see:Utena and Umineko). The way I interpret Kris and Noelle's relationship in the Weird Route-and what the Thorn Ring represents- is that it's akin to an arranged marriage. Neither of them want to be in this situation but they don't really have a choice. The end goal is to inevitably have one or both individuals forfeit their freedom and bodily autonomy for strictly someone else's benefit.
I feel like in that sense; Weird Route is a metacommentary about the way some fans disengage from the narrative and it's intended messaging to play house with the characters. I mean, the characters aren't real, so why doesthisremindyouofanything make you feel so uncomfortable? Their feelings aren't real, it's just a metaphor, etc... The game is pushing your limits and asking you how far you're willing to go to do what you want. If it doesn't matter to (you) then you can just disregard the "ick" and >Proceed.
It's understandable to not want to think about (metaphorical)rape in that scene, because if you have empathy for the characters you don't want to think of yourself as THAT horrible. But if you just want the characters to be empty vessels, or a living weapon for (you) to use then you absolutely shouldn't care if you even *literally* raped them because they are not real.
>>530873061I see where you're getting at but a lot of victims of abuse/rape out there do just convince themselves that they are enjoying the relationship and that it's making them "happier" as a coping mechanism.
>>530876139They're side by side with enough space between them so that you can see what Noelle is holding on-screen, that's not cowering that's just the characters being staged to be visible and once again you've managed to take something completely innocuous and turn it into an attack on all your sensibilities
Notice that this image has them further apart than they stand in-game:
>>530876349Why is there a constant need to lie about and misrepresent the scenes?
Friend's theme is a guitar rendition of flowey's best friend jingle
>>530873940I could do without the fatfag(s), but otherwise I do prefer seeing Spamton.
>>530876883Still looks like cowering behind Noelle to me.
>>530870354this is what the average /utg/er is like, actual unga bunga brain
>>530876637you actually tapped into Kris' spirit for a moment
>>530876680>means nothingIt shows up in Undertale. Specifically the Switch exclusive room leading to Mad Mew Mewโs fight
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>>530877061That's because you're a mindbroken incel seething about teenage lesbians in your vidya
Take your meds
>>530877061She IS, dont let anyone lie to you
>>530876637Kris, what the fuck
>>530876928>Kris falls and gets impaled by Dess's horns
Noelle fucking smacking the SHIT out of the tiny angel ornament.
>>530876883>the big strong character isn't in the front and is behind the timid oneYou're the one misinterpreting
>>530876764There are no lesbiancas in my Deltarune. I will not allow the alphabet cult to ruin my entertainment.
I don't care if it hurts them in the short term. I will make it up to them when I have my real vessel.
>>530877125Reminder that chapter 1 mad dummy knows kris and has some form of interest/relationship with asgore, and that this plot thread hasn't been tied up yet.
>>530876863>toby is STILL mad over killing monsters in video games so he upgraded from "murder route" to "rape route"
>>530876542 (me)
There wouldn't be a problem if this line acknowledged Noelle's change in character, but it requires Susie to know that Noelle is a scaredy cat. Unfortunately, there aren't any scenes or reasons for Susie to be aware of this oh wait
>>530876797I donโt believe you. Your spamton is too small for that to be true
>>530876883>Why is there a constant need to lie about and misrepresent the scenes?These people aren't interesting in talking about the game, they just want to keep re-litigating their asspain over Toby Fox teasing another lesbian relationship, something that they've known for 10 years but due to their debilitating autism they're unable to stop making themselves mad about it
>>530877013It's okay fellow spamfag I still like you back
Saying a lowly prayer at Hometown church for Asgore's health, good fortune, and happiness to a deity nobody in attendance seems to knows but me. Stroking Asgore's goat tail and pulling the Doomguy_BFG.png face. Taking fire magic lessons from Asgore and concentrating 110% of my power into a small slip of paper with the intention of setting it ablaze (it increased by 0.4ยฐ Fahrenheit and the sheer effort nearly destroyed me).
Should I draw Ralsei getting his lil dick jerked off or something else
>>530873940Spamtenna posters will sometimes post elaborate thinkpieces or schizotheories about their ship and how it contributes to the game's themes when they aren't being obnoxious fatfuckers
>>530873149>>530873356Did everyone also just forget that Noelle overcomes specifically a fear of mice in Ch2 (which is also referenced by the scarf mouse in hometown)
https://strawpoll.com/bVg8Bm9NMyY
No guys you don't get it.
We MUST tear Susie to bits, butcher her, tear away everything that makes her her that could possibly stand in the way of THE SHIP.
Don't you understand? A LESBIAN likes her.
She's not allowed to be a character anymore, she has to just be her perfect little moe blob fucktoy.
And if Kris stands in the way, then Kris obviously must die. Susie will thank us, after all, we butchered the part of her that liked Kris for standing against THE SHIP.
>>530875532The ending for Undertale was fine, most of teh characters resolved pretty well minus the Asgores, and while the lesbian relationship sucked their character arc concluded fine.
However, this time it's a focal point and I can't imagine him not fumbling it with the basement.
i just wanted to draw queen
https://files.catbox.moe/60xft2.PNG
I found out that my sister is officially getting a divorce today and my first thought was to make her pic related. It feels dangerous with how much these two are taking over my mind.
>>530877407Thanks. If it makes you feel better I don't like fatfags in general.
They are gonna fuck after this
>>530877297>Mad Dummyโs implied to have the hots for Asgore>This will be relevant in Chapter 5 where we can set up Mad Dummy as Asgoreโs rebound loverPlease Toby make it so
>>530877427Why would that mean anything to Susie? She wasn't there to witness any of it.
>>530877315Sure man, if you wanna see it that way. I don't give a fuck anymore.
>>530877248Almost like Noelle is positioned in front because she's going to take the initiative in that scene or something
>>530877286There might not be lesbians but there are gay men. Which, I think is better
>>530876863Bullshit. The characters do not deserve freedom if I have none. Seal the Fountains, and Stop the Roaring. To willingly assist the one creating the former to bring forth the latter is against my interests.
>>530876284>but the writing wants to pretend Noelle is developing because of their bond on exposition alone.I read it more as Noelle getting to talk with Susie and vice versa as something resulting from their individual character developments which came about from Kris, so far their relationship (if you can even call it that, they're really just friends right now) is just them chilling out and Susie getting caught in the moment to tell Carol to fuck off
With all the weird shit going on between Kris and Noelle and how Susie will probably feel left out over it plus Kris and Susie's date with the prophecy and how Noelle is completely out of the loop I think the stage is set for things to get more interesting between the three, we just needed to establish Noelle and Susie as friends first
>>530877321That picture is from years ago, he wouldn't fit in the 4chan image size limit now
>>530876602good fucking lord those mixels
>>530877427Kris watches it firsthand, and from what I remember Susie does tag along when you can talk to the mouse NPC in hometown. I will forgive Tobert for not including a line change in the basement scene if Susie knows about this.
>>530875985There's a general lack of good human Tenna designs. They're always too twinky and never adequately capture what I imagine he'd look like as a Lightner.
>>530877427Susie should be at the front regardless of Noelle's character development
>>530877412Draw Asriel getting jerked off (by Kris ((male)))
>>530877796Maybe she IS in the front and it's just another one of the Holiday manor's perspective tricks
>>530877559imagine the frotting and deep kissing with tongue
>>530877642There arent those either.
>>530876764Are they really grown if their brains never fully developed?
>>530877427Anti-Suselle schizos haven't actually played the new chapters (or even the game at all sometimes), every new shitpost they come here with is based on secondhand information they misrepresent out of context
>>530877412you should draw (Me)
>>530877796You could say she's been conditioned by Kris to walk behind someone, but she runs ahead and climbs a different route up the pillars in chapter 4.
>>530877614It doesn't mean anything to Susie but it does mean she's probably going to be uniquely quick to act on something that she believes is a mouse
>>530876863>I see where you're getting at but a lot of victims of abuse/rape out there do just convince themselves that they are enjoying the relationship and that it's making them "happier" as a coping mechanism.True, but it doesn't typically happen like... immediately
>>530877412Toriel jerking my little dick off
>>530877412>lil dickplease please please
>>530872363Not much at all honestly. I remember a lot of theorizing about why Tenna was in the Sword Route and also why doing the Sword Route triples Kris' damage to him during the fight.
>>530877385People would be less asspained if he would stop writing insanely romantic shit like "a concert just for me" or "her smile blew away the darkness and your soul shined in imitation. " because it makes the tepid lesbians go from an ignorable background element to active and malicious NTR.
>>530877904Hey, that's my post. Good on you for keeping it. I actually did play OFF, according to an anon's suggestion. I looked at it and wondered why Deltarune couldn't be more like that.
>>530876637I SEE
THE SOUL
IS SUCCESSFULLY
MERGING
WITH
THE UNWILLING
VESSEL
>>530877619Cute shadow Spamton.
>>530877572Anon, for a tenna fag I thought you'd see the connection.
Tenna is conceptually asgore.
Spamton is conceptually mad dummy.
>>530877904This but unironically. The batter is a much better vessel than Kris
>>530877975You keep getting btfo by every post they make and that's why you're only responding to the ones that agree with you.
>>530875706>"Calm down, Ant. They don't think you're fucking your 19 year old co-host. Everything's FINE."
>>530877975I played chapter 4 and hated every second of that scene, because it forced me to watch, and expected me to like it and actively participate.
>>530877473Ok woman and/or faggot
>>530877925Imagine his giant ass getting pounded by his small husband.
>>530877529It's gay and shipping war hours wrong time to post best girl.
>>530877925The taste of blood and the noises coming out of them
Them going faster and faster
which undertale character would be most likely to commit a felony
just finished masturbating, AMA
>>530878150Another thing is that just because we understand dumb tween romance bullshit in Toby's 7 episode playable anime series is inevitable, doesn't mean it has to accepted as good or realistic writing.
>>530878397didn't most of them?
>>530878239I should mention this little game when I tell people that Deltarune could indeed work with a compliant vessel.
>>530877286why do people deny what is right infront of their eyes?
I don't actually like anonymous imageboards because people like the threadshitters who bring up pronouns and the suselle cuck get away with it unimpeded every time.
>>530878380Tenna pounding hard into Spamton's litte ass
Which Undertale character is most likely to commit updog?
>>530878486Except for that last bit where you choose who to play as in the final boss.
>>530878150>>530878305"When Susie and Noelle are together it's like Toby Fox is literally fucking my wife" is not a normal attitude to have, please grow and change as a person
>>530878240Already deboonked them I'm afraid
>>530876378
>>530878507my imagination
>>530878492I dont want to discuss it on my channel when it comes time for the let's play, that's why. I will do what I will to deny it.
This is personal...if you dint already notice.
>>530878239>Literally so co-dependant on you that he can't flip a switch by himselfI'm gonna say he's a shitty vessel. Dependance is not the same as obedient.
>>530878397The whole cast. Floweyโs the only one who would gloat about it though
>>530878619Not much, what's up with you?
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>watching youtube video
>the freedom theme is actually modified from Gaster's theme and draws heavily from it
THE FUCK?
>>530878535Yeah it's way better when someone who disagrees with you can just click on your profile and try to find something to attack your character with.
>>530872619There's no way Tenna didn't shrink himself to be closer to BIG SHOT era Spamton's height when they're together in private. I think Tenna would want their bond to feel more personal, both to manipulate him and to genuinely get closer to him.
In the present day, Tenna refuses to shrink himself to appease this rat. It called him [Trash heap]!!! For fucks sake!
>>530878695This is why we'll use up Noelle in the weird route and switch to THE vessel
>>530878621If you think we won't have to choose between being Kris or being the vessel we originally created, you're not thinking big enough. That anon who talked about the drowning scene was inspired and I believe in their vision
>>530878603>spamtenna(You) threesomeFINALLY some good fucking food
>this is chara now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q0vry9anTc
how you feelin?
>>530878765I'd like to shrink myself and get close to Toriel's feet haha
>>530878402How many ropes did you fling out, if any?
>>530878726Who did you think jevil represented anon?
Seam = sans
Jevil = gaster.
>>530878678Do it in the other room, leave room
for plausible deniability. DON'T.MAKE.ME.WATCH.
>>530878621I didn't get to that part. I played the little demo that released for PC.
>>530878726no
absolutely not
this is Among Us syndrome applied to the limited amount of ways a melody with a static rhythm can play out
>>530877473Anon, we DO NOT care you don't like the ship
we DO NOT care that you dislike kris goes against you
we DO NOT care you dislike toby's writing
we DO NOT care you dislike the gays
We are here to talk about DELTARUNE, not YOUR GREVINCES with deltarune
GTFO.
>>530879012based jackenstein
>>530879012I care. Don't speak for me cunt.
>>530878695He doesn't need (you) to flip the switch. He needs (you) to ensure it stays OFF. You hold the power to undo his work at a moment's notice by reloading into the world. Your cooperation to purify the world is to accept that it is done and there is no reason to return. This is the same thing Undertale does with true pacifist
>>530875507to be fair, that part where Susie eats the rose was hilarious
>>530879012>Do NOT talk in Deltarune in ways I don't approve of.How about I just ignore you and keep doing it?
>>530879012maybe the real Deltarune was the gameplay all along
>>530878690anon i think you just don't like the game, what even is your channel?
>>530878989Anon.
Jevil is locked in an underground prison that requires 3 keys.
The bunker that requires 3 keys is making entry 17 gaster noises.
>>530879012That's not me. That's a different anon. I don't feel cucked. I just think it's disgusting in general.
>>530878756Unironically yes because then you can call them out for not debating the actual argument and ignoring them becomes easier since they have a name associated with it now
>>530879090>I care about another "man's" seething about gay teen furriesHow embarrassing
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>>530878989he points to similar notes and intervals along with a repetition of the in gaster's theme in the freedom motif right here as being a really sped up version of gaster's theme
>>530879163YOU can talk about it in ways I do not approve of, just DON'T do that CONSTANTLY
>>530878678Why do you hate Kris so much anyway? Seems kinda suspicious. Seems a little transphobic.
>>530879091>You hold the power to undo his work at a moment's notice by reloading into the worldNot really, but this is the case even when we control him we can still do that. Let's be honest, he's completely incompetent without us, he falls to a cat the second we gain control. Chances are, he was never that strong to begin with.
>>530878837We already had an idol Chara
>>530879318Shouldn't you be embarrassed for making a replay being upset about that other anon's seething about gay teen furries?
This image does something to me
I think Kris is a fictional character who is one piece to a story intended to have things like "themes" and a "point".
I don't think we're supposed to like, take everything we see at face value and stuff.
>>530873940anons talking about how much they love Toby's characters is the only enjoyable thing in these threads
>>530875276Come to think of it it'd be a real waste if we never got any model railway Dark World action wouldn't it
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Gn /utg/, have a good time.
>>530879379I DON'T do that CONSTANTLY, there's MORE than ONE person discussing this SHIT at any given time, RETARD.
Suselle is so fucking shit even in places like reddit, tumblr or twitter it's no longer the favorite ship, you should get used to the fact it's disappointed a lot of people, and you're gonna have to see many, many of them air out their grievances with it. Or you're gonna have to fuck off once you realize people don't owe you jackshit when discussing stuff and don't have to shut up just because it annoys you.
>>530878156>I looked at it and wondered why Deltarune couldn't be more like that.Because Deltarune is a different game which examines the relationship between the player and player character in a completely different way.
I suspect you're being dense on purpose to annoy everyone.
>>530878678> "When Susie and Noelle are together it's like Toby Fox is literally fucking my wifeโThe SOUL said this btw
>>530879498Kris is a real person and also either literally me and if you're not nice to them they WILL commit suicide and it WILL be your fault or literally Hitler and I will slit their throat for not eating pancakes when I tell them to
>>530879458I thought that was more a metaphorical message about being favored by the narrative, considering his appearance in judge's eyes is a monstrosity even though we know canonically he still looks human. It's just that the perspective shifted. I think anyone aided by a near-omniscient being is destined to win eventually, and it's not like he can't operate without us considering he fought back the moment (you) turn against him.
>>530879648NTA but it's less the fact their talking about it and more that their being very very annoying about how much they dislike it, dragging irl politics and such into it to.
>>530879648NTA but if it's not a popular ship anymore and normalfags are parroting your opinions, then why do you care
>>530879647Sleep well tennafag.
https://files.catbox.moe/29fho4.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/4kvqxu.jpg
Spamton is the perfect size for cuddling!
>>530879478this video is peak
>>530879178I posted it a few times /here/.
As for the other thing, I'm conflicted. I think there is a good game in Deltarune...its just there are some things that really piss me off when it comes to said game that are ruining the experience that even Undertale didnt do.
what is the titan and what is its purpose
>>530864613Because she's the creator.
how does toby feel about so many people being extremely horny for his funny tv guy character
>>530879012>I can't refute your arguments, so shut up
>>530879902You are right, anon
I can imagine Tenna wanted to fuck Spamton when he saw him all so cute
>>530879831>dragging irl politics and such into it to.I've only seen one of the current anons arguing dragging IRL politics into it, and I don't subscribe to it. I can perfectly think this writing is dogshit without it being a statement on homosexuality as a whole.
>>530879843Because Toby is making the romance into a central point of the story, obviously. Unless you somehow missed the fact next chapter is going to be about a triple date with the center theme of "jealousy".
>>530867045Seconding this, I haven't seen vessels that are inhuman in that way, usually it's just dolls or empty husks
>>530879967It's the final boss of chapter 4, and it's the final boss of chapter 4.
It's simple. If Suselle wins I'm giving Trump a third term.
>>530879859>uncut spamton
>>530880045I'm not refuting their arguments, I'm just TIRED of talking about them constantly, i wanna discuss something else other than "suselle le bad" for the 500th time.
>>530880017pleasantly surprised and planning more tenna content to sate us
>>530879678I genuinely dont think it makes sense, if you want your players to care about what they're doing, if this kind of detachment is used.
>>530873824>the theoryfreaks>hmm a little out there but whatevs>the gend-Theory.
>>530880045How is anyone supposed to "refute" gay tumblr shipwar faggotry
You're not making a reasoned argument, you're having an autistic meltdown and whining like the teen girls you're seething about
>>530879617Sending psychic waves of discontent into every /utg/ poster that disagrees with my very specific schizo theories and preferred ships to wake them up in the middle of the night.
>>530879809That's really it yeah. It's less that The Batter can't flip a switch, and more that you as The Player are the only one who can elicit change in the world. When The Judge gives you the choice to follow his goals instead, The Batter's goal is threatened because now The Switch might as well do nothing. When you DO flip it, it also does effectively nothing, but it is the final narrative beat that fulfils the story of OFF.
Still people saying that The Batter is a better vessel than kris feel a bit like they didn't pay attention to the game. Batter never explains anything to you, he never elaborates, he always keeps you in the dark about the ultimate goal of his mission. It's only when he finally makes you kill a kid with his hands that you're finally given the choice to decide if you agree with his goals, after they're this close to fruition. Kris is doing similar stuff, and the Weird Route (wether it followd the prophecy or not) is Toby's way of giving you a more elaborate but effective version of that Judge's Choice.
I've thought about this idea in a game I wanna make someday, but I think meta awareness in the UTDR universe is treated like an ingame mental illness akin to going schizo.
Hometown used to have a therapist that prescribed the residents pills so they stopped being aware that they're in a video game, but that therapist shattered across time and space one day.
I think our end goal is to inevitably cure everyone of meta awareness so they continue living life in blissful ignorance of our existence.
Meanwhile Sans never got cured, he got isekai's into Undertale knowing everything is a video game and that's why his life is shit.
>>530877013My sentiment exactly
all of kris' "toys" are just random shit stolen from the neighbors or library. why
i don't get why people don't just... check their phone, or tab out during the suselle stuff if it bugs them so much, especially given the uptick in adhd.
just do something else if you dont care that much before getting back to the rest of the game.
>>530880326What is your preferred ship so I can have a good sleep?
>>530880075It's not about my politics, it's about my entertainment.
>>530880165Easy solution. Refrain completely, from talking about it.
You had a dream . . You wanted better!
You were sick of all the holes in your sweater!
You looked to me . . and wondered whether . .
I was the lamppost to which you were tethered!
I'm lookin' at you . . and you're lookin' at me . .
But the glimmer in your eyes is sayin' you wanna leave!
You're sayin' to me . . what you're sayin' to me . .
But the glimmer in your eyes is tellin' me other things!
I don't wanna get undressed . . for a new person all over again!
I don't wanna kiss someone else's neck . . and have to pretend it's yours instead!
>>530880446His parents are shit
>>530880446because his parents hate him for being autistic
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>>530880480>i don't get why people don't just... check their phone, or tab outAbsolutely disgusting conzoomer behavior
>>530880326pls tell ne what they are so i can get sleep
>>530880326AAAAAAAAAA ANON HOW COULD YOU
okay /utg/ it's time to consider angel vs devil
>>530878695In the context of that the Judge has just asked the Player to join him and not flip the switch. If the Player does that, the Batter's mission is a failure because the Player always wins. He doesnt need you to flip a switch, he needs you to not stand in the way of it
>>530880264Then think of it this way.
You are not playing as Kris.
You're playing as the SOUL, dragging Kris around and making decisions for them.
The SOUL never disobeys you. The SOUL never works against you.
Kris is framed as a cage several times in the story. We are a SOUL trapped in a cage with human parts.
>>530880420Based fellow salesman enjoyer.
>>530880495The MOL Sunflower.
>>530880446Some kids were weird that way
>>530880480Not the schizo anon, but even if I wanted to skip the suselle scenes, I canโt because itโs part of the main route, and in the case of chapter 4, it gives some crumbs regarding Kris. People who donโt like the ship but care about the story have to sit through it like that one scene in the clockwork orange
>>530880326I had no choice but to kill those 2 kids. I was merely following the denpa signals you beamed into my head.
>>530880739need to see this but with spamton being the big spoon
>>530880594but everyone in hometown is autistic
utg whenever I have sex with my girlfriend she cums within 20 seconds of being touched and her vagina clamps shut like a bear trap what the fuck do I do
>>530880608>>530880745then do what netflix watchers do and check your phone while reading. you can pay half attention to shit, ya know?
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>>530880869i am the girlfriend(male) btw
The funny thing is we don't even know if Kris and the Knight are actually evil or not. The story's only halfway done.
>>530880357Hugo is his father/creator.
>>530880869just keep fucking her and learn to love the tightness
>>530880881>if you donโt like it, then donโt read it And then we are back at the discourse of โpeople complaining donโt even read the scenesโ
you guys really complain a lot
>Howdy!
>Saw your tweet about me not having a SOUL.
>>530880357You know what would fix my Kris problem? If I could side with him and the Knight. I'd accept it exchange of plans. But that doesnt happen.
>>530880480A bit difficult when you've got to show the game to other people. A sudden cut to black without context, and people ask unwanted questions. Better to not have it at all.
>>530880636if this shit gets to be real i'm dropping this fucking game, too many shitty tropes, i've seen this in a ton of mangas/manwhas
Kris and Ralsei are evil
the weird route is the good route
>>530880881>Half-pay attention to a story whose only method of delivery si through text meant to be readanon, I think you might be autistic
>>530880554What song is this?
>>530880943i keep telling people here this but they do not listen and continue to bash kris for "betraying" them.
>>530880869aquire masochism
>>530881007>You know what would fix my Kris problem? If I could side with him and the Knight.You're following Gaster's plan, not Kris's.
>>530880995Well then i don't fucking know then anon, it seems any possible solution that's available they don't want. and toby isn't gonna change it to suit their whims so. uh, i don't know.
I don't even think Suselle has more than like a 20% chance of making it to endgame but the guys that hate it the most yet think it's absolutely canon are also the stupidest and touchiest retards who turn the most minute details into proof the sky is falling while getting other basic facts wrong too often for it to be a coincidence
It's just a drag to have guys that sometimes resort to making up shit to get mad about hanging around while trying to discuss the characters and events of the game
>>530880659I've tried. Believe me, I've tried, but for the majority of the game, the Soul goes completely unrecognized. As if it's not even present. It's like whiplash when the Soul-ripping parts happen. It's like your playing as a character that isnt even there.
>>530880681Good one. Made me use google.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GvfiFHZWMAAGXyz?format=jpg&name=orig
i cannot comprehend the anatomy here, what's going on
>>530880881good art doesn't make you want to look at your phone
most of what you see on netflix is not good art, and we are all hoping Deltarune can be/will be
>>530881049anon it's 2025 you can type lyrics into google and find the song in like a minute, it's what I did when I heard it on the radio this morning
sombr - undressed
>>530874315This chart is inaccurate btw imagine being in the right and you still choose to use a misleading image seriously massive evolutionary L taken for no reason
Talking about the educators who put that image in the textbooks
>>530881007well anon you have two choices then, except the yuri and power through or don't play the game at all.
>Gerson is dead but still remains in the dark world
man this reminds me of Celeste's last chapter for some reason...both games include old people who long has passed away...
I'd like to see a swap, fighting granny from celeste throwing strawberries in deltarune fights meanwhile susie in celeste overcomes her sadness that Gerson is dead as fuck
>>530881145Clover if he Hopeful
>>530881171>I don't even think Suselle has more than like a 20% chance of making it to endgameWhat do you base that on?
>>530880986that would rip my dick off
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Lost Girl possibly echoing Gaster along with the Stigmata on the Knight's hands is fucking fascinating as that might be a definite Dess knight thing
>>530881052Well I'm not the bad guy.
I'm not the one fucking summoning destructo-demons out of dark fountains who want to suplex the world.
>>530881373>UT/DR Fans Be Like
>>530881304>anon it's 2025 you can type lyrics into googleBut I got you to do it and that was more fun
>>530874778Dess is chara?!
>>530881171>retards who turn the most minute detailsIt's a preponderance of evidences that still haven't been satisfactorily refuted. And being forced to sit through them is salt in the wound
>>530880636susie is the dragon thovgh
>>530881134But am I? Let him talk to me, I'll listen to the order, just give the order. Gaster's presence is another thing, the rest of the story pretty much doesn't matter once you even start talking about him.
>>530881338Clover if he Pointless
Toriel and Asgore are the knight!
>>530881052It's kind of obnoxious the way some people are too autistic to see the fictonal game they're playing as a work of fiction that's meant to have a message and then just END. Kris isn't real, Hometown isn't real, the DEVICE isn't real. It's a deliberately crafted video game and the story beats are intentional decisions. You're meant to think about it as a fictional story and not as if what happens to you in-game happened in real life.
>>530880881>check your phone while reading. you can pay half attention to shit, ya know?No you fucking can't
I'm the Knight.
Hello.
Ask me why I did it.
>>530881238You're still in control of the SOUL when torn out of Kris's body. For instance, you can wiggle around in the cage in Chapter 1.
>>530881465>But I got you to do it and that was more funNot fair how this line works better on me than when I use it on others
lmk what you think of the song anon
>>530881375ok, keep me posted.
>>530880357The Batter isnt fully omniscient either iirc, there are things he doesnt know that he learns as the story progresses. And for the stuff he does know, why bother explaining it? What, you think killing everything in sight, targeting the person leading an entire zone wasnt genocide? It's not like he hides the info from you or is scared you'll find out, he's plenty willing to dive into a purified zone and get his ass kicked for you, there's just no reason to explain any of it when the goal is erasure. The world speaks for itself on why it needs to be purified. It's a shithole where the major elements are ass backwards and outright harm people when consumed save for Meat, and even then there's no proof they cook the meat at any point so its all possibly being consumed raw. Not to mention Sugar existing at all, let alone the fact its consumed by everyone and the only reason they havent killed themselves yet.
There's no reason to offer you a choice because even as the puppet master, you want to play the game dontcha? The Judges choice is just, not playing anymore. You couldve done that at any time if thats what you wanted. You want to play a game, and tear through a world filled with monsters and horrible people. Why else are you here?
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>>530881591Being fair, having it literally be about the relationship of the video game and the player with a scene of the character playing a video game who then comes out and threatens the player isnt very subtle for what the games is trying to do about commenting on how your relationship with Kris.
>>530880357I say he's a better vessel because even though he was lying by omission, he was still capable and instead deferred to your judgement on matters. You had the final say in everything, even though you were used to achieve a goal that might not be savory.
And the thing is, despite all of that? I don't disagree with the batter at the end. The world was clearly corrupt and needed to be cleansed.
I just kicked that dumb lizard in the teeth for looking at my girlfriend and now my entire body is shaking
Looks like the vessel really wasn't a fan of that one
>>530880881>check your phone while reading.not possible, I pay attention to the games i play as much as i possibly can (might have some brain damage and poor reading comprehension issues but that aside...), can't multitask or else i lose focus and actually forget half the context
>loud snoring
>random schizo rambling
>glitching
>screaming for no reason
>loudly jacking off to some tenna guy
>loudly cheering when said guy dies
>loudly jacking off to his dead armless body after he comes back covered in foam
>trying to sell you shady shit
>jumping on your bed
imagine being jevil and having spamton as your roommate
>>530881778I keep seeing this posted, what does this mean?
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>>530881967Charielโs gonna kick your ass man
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Okay, finally picked up deltarune, just beat chappy 1. Important question, who is the Gamzee Makara of this game?
>>530881689Beat the shit out of my only two friends then mount my face please
>>530881880>>530881036that's fair
>>530881304>>530881616then i don't know what you want me to say, i've offered up multiple solutions for people over the course of the threads and you people have rejected all of them, so realistically all you can do now is cope and seethe. like, what do you want me to say?
>>530881935Jevil would do the same for Seam, he gets it
>>530882032I mean, given the water cooler battles I dont fucking doubt it.
>>530882050>the literal drug addicted murder clownJevil, it's Jevil
Toby is literally remaking Homestuck with Deltarune characters and a slightly different setting...but pretty much any homestuck character has a deltarune counterpart
>>530866429He had the outline of stuff like Tenna and battling the knight, but the actual script for the chapter was done very recently according to his status updates. Just like how he had the ideas for Kris and Susie since 2011/2012, but their characters were different.
>>530882032Toriel saves you by sitting down
>>530881340All the really impactful stuff so far is reserved for between Kris and Susie or Kris and Noelle, Susie and Noelle are only just starting to hang out, a lot of their scenes are skippable and we're going into the endgame after the next chapter which makes me think their relationship isn't meant to be THAT important in the grand scheme of things
Similarly Susie and Noelle's big interpersonal conflicts are going to be with Kris, for Susie it's what's gonna happen once Kris betrays her for the Knight and for Noelle it's figuring out what her relationship with Kris actually is plus the Kris working for the Knight thing if it's Carol or Dess
There's just not that much room left for a Susie/Noelle romantic plot unless it's kept as a subplot or they team up to try and save Kris from the Knight's machinations after the betrayal or something
>>530881778>>530881967I think it's talking about the pile of chairs that are growing in Toriel's classroom
>>530866429he has deltarune planned from start to finish since 2010s but he revisits the chapters and also puts in weird references and keeps up with the current times we having
>>530881375I don't understand why he and other people who have talked about this are so dismissive of Flashback being Gaster-y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ5WnrSNHIg
I understand it's not literally the same four notes/intervals but come the fuck on, it's the same contour, it's the same musical idea (four notes -> repeat -> go a step lower -> repeat), it's so insanely exposed that I immediately went "that's fucking Gaster's theme" back in 2021, like how do you think Toby Fox was doing this by accident
>>530881935you'd wake up to Jevil sucking your cock
>>530882350I'd argue that leaves it at a 50% chance though. It's 50% "Susie and Noelle is just a bait and everything important is in other relationship", and 50% "Toby genuinely thinks this is enough for a satisfying and popular romance".
Let's not forget he wrote Undyne x Alphys into Undertale and just completely left out Undyne finding out about just everything but the most surface level facts about Alphys outside of the game.
>>530881935They should've added a Jevil laugh sfx after Tenna covered Spamton in cum
>>530882350>Noelle's big interpersonal conflict is figuring out what her relationship is with Kris
i guess people here are just being unreasonable and complaining to complain.
>>530882591i misread the post sorry im an undertale fan. i want jevil to suck my cock though
>>530882693>Tenna covered Spamton in cumthat one image just flashed on my mind
>>530882501once again, i dont doubt it. its literally a game about objects coming to life
>>530882687yeah exactly.
>>530882583It feels Gastery but it isnt Gaster, I'd say Gaster adjacent? Kinda?
>>530882583toby also indirectly used flashback for the 8-bit bunker by using glaceir.
>>530881819I'm still convinced the length of dev time is because Toby has been invented the evil opposite of the going into games machine, the coming out of games machine.
>>530881761>Not fair how this line works better on me than when I use it on othersIt's because you are a good lil' boy
>lmk what you think of the song anonA bit cuckish lyrics but the song itself is a bop
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>>530882709Heโs right tho. Noelle has been the entire game saying โweโre friends, I think?โ but then you dig deeper (snowgrave route in ch4, her pc, etc) and you notice that they are indeed friends but she keeps denying the fact for unknown reasons
>>530882050Hot take. Susie would be a hero of Blood, not Rage.
>>530882216>Remaking HomestuckSo are (you) literally just the mspa reader?
>>530882687people really overlook the importance of this being susie's room. if this is susie's room, that means susie knows friend.
and kris knows friend.
and noelle knows friend.
they all know friend. that's what makes them special. they were chosen.
>>530881821You can disagree with the Batter (I know you said you dont), but anyone who genuinely sides with the Judge over him did not pay any attention to the game. It's the easiest way to tell whether or not someone actually cares about the story. It's so painfully obvious that the Judge is wrong that even the game admits that his ending is noncanon right before you select it
>>530882949>Noelle has been the entire game saying โweโre friends, I think?โNo I think she said that during a single scene Anon. Every other scene has been about Susie.
I feel like there's not enough discussion about why Alvin dug up Gerson's remains and stored them in his drawer when, going by Susie's reaction, this absolutely not a normal thing to do
>>530882216>Queen: Roxy/Mom Lalonde>Noelle: Jade?>Spamton: ????>Tenna: ????
>>530882643Do keep in mind that Undyne and Alphys were already close friends in Undertale. It's kind of an important detail that sets it far apart from Suselle.
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>>530881967it's talking about friend, and all of the gacha balls are about chapter 3. now where did you get your ass kicked in chapter 3 anon?
>>530883127She said it twice. Once in ch2 when the seller ask if Kris and her are a couple, and then in ch4 when she talks either Susie. Sheโs always blocking the fact that Kris is actually her friend
>>530882709It is though? What she has with Susie can be described as anything but a "conflict". It's something that's just happening with no further complications. All of Noelle's internal drama is on Kris. Even the whole idea that Noelle is projecting on Susie often passes through projecting Kris (on top of Dess).
>>530883146Alvin didnโt want to part with his dad. The logic behind actions are fairly clear even though heโs executed them in the most deranged way possible
>>530881814>you think killing everything in sight, targeting the person leading an entire zone wasnt genocide?Yes actually. Beyond the RPG tropes, all of the enemies we face are mindless Ghosts and Ghouls, or manic workers who throw hands at you first. Then, when getting to the leaders, they're often antagonistic, stubborn, and ignorant to the needs and woes of their citizens. If all Batter did was upend some corrupt leaders his goals might be agreeable.
It's when the world, seemingly working like clockwork and thriving with society, gets wipes entirely from you ending the life of one guy. When it turns pristine white, and even more hostile than before. The fact that life doesn't even end, but becomes more violent when there were people before who were happy, who strived for success, who The Batter let live before assumedly because we thought he cared about the wellbeing of the world. Learning instead, that he is simply pragmatic in what he considers an obstacle in need of being beaten out of his way, recontextualises it enough so that the final choice of who you control DOES have weight.
>The Judges choice is just, not playing anymoreThat's simply not true. It is a moral choice. it is already the end of the game, and you are offered to answer the simple question of if you side with The Batter after learning the truth, and having gone through everything the game has to offer. On a first playthrough, you might not even fully comprehend it (especially if you played the original translation, which messes up a line that confirms The Batter and The Queen are both psychic constructs created by the kid that Batter kills).
>Not to mention Sugar existing at all, let alone the fact its consumed by everyoneAlso untrue. All we know for sure is that Enoch uses it to placate his workers, and are fed propaganda to pacify everyone while he does nothing to stop the growing Ghost infestation. He is meant to be the most unforgivable Guardian to slay for this very reason.
Can someone bake? I want to start a fight
>>530882892it definitely straddles the line between sad breakup song and cuckoldry romanticism
but it's not nearly as bad as Mr. Brightside so I can give it the benefit of the doubt
Calling me a
>good lil' boyisn't gonna turn me into a bottom, even if it is a very sweet thing to hear
>>530883269Oh excuse me 2 scenes. I guess that means that's the most important part of her character currently.
>>530882813I understand making the argument that it's objectively not the same exact piece of music, but I don't understand putting it on the same level as stuff like the Chapter 2 area themes which are just "here's four notes that go up and down at some point in the song"
It's not "ANOTHER HIM" but it's at least as Gaster-y as the Freedom Theme stuff
>>530881821>he was still capable and instead deferred to your judgement on mattersOnly in terms of puzzles and gameplay. He still makes decisions for you when in control, and then begs for you to come back when you're given the choice to not be with him. He's only different to Kris in that he isn't actively hiding anything form you, just refusing to say anything.
>>530883461NTA but it kinda is.
Noelle isn't really in the game for that much time.
Thoughts on the Undertale Yellow's soundtrack and how it compares to Deltarune's?
>>530881819I think Toby knows what he's doing and he's done it well in Undertale. But it really sucks that the most autistic fans AND haters take what happens in UTDR at face value. Instead of thinking about what they mean and way they're trying to say about video games and the way we interact with them.
Because Toby isn't saying "violence in video games is bad/you're evil for being violent in video games". There's no simple way to explain it, but I think "attaching yourself to a work of fiction without imparting any of its messages is akin to commiting violence on the world" is closer to what he wants to say.
That is to say, Undertale and Deltarune are very transparent about being video games and the characters not being "real". It's not saying committing violence on them means you're commiting violence on real sentient beings, but it is criticizing you for not engaging with the story it wants to tell.
It wants you to care for this work of fiction AS a work of fiction, because fictional stories are worth taking seriously and engaging with beyond a surface level. Caring about the characters and relating to them is one part, the Watsonian perspective. But you still have to understand it from a Doylist perspective, that everything that happens is in service of a greater point being made. No decisions are made in a vacuum. When you respect the story in that manner is when you become like Gigachad Gerson, writing his own take on the story he likes and encouraging others to learn from and take inspiration from him.
>>530883278>All of Noelle's internal drama is on KrisHer mom??? Her dad??? Her missing sister??? Holy fuck you with you people. I understand you like the ship I do too but you are just ignoring entire parts of the game to justify it.
>>530883017I can only see it if she's a page, because as of chapter 1 she's kind of shit at relationships and bonds. Otherwise I would have said Heart. holy shit I haven't thought about Homestuck in ages, I can't remember the last time I felt so autistic. Thanks anon.
>>530883305I suppose so, but the timing of it being right as the Dark Worlds start opening up alongside him obviously having intimate knowledge of the prophecy as the local pastor really just bothers me in a way I can't explain. I hope it gets brought up/we get the chance to bring it up in future chapters
>>530881741Only for it to go back to business as usual when chapter 2 rolls around? Like it never happened? Everything and everyone still calls me Kris, as if SOUL does not matter.
>>530883635it's pretty good and faithful to toby's work
of course deltarune's music is better, but that's incredibly difficult to top.
>>530883704>Her mom??? Literally just got introduced and was there for like a single minute. And it's not like "You gave your missing sister's guitar to the first delinquent that came into our house" leaves much space for her to reply.
>Her dad??? Her missing sister???Those aren't conflicts? Do you think she's fighting her dying father?
>>530883191Noelle is dear, sweet, innocent, precious Nepeta. Spamton is post HS Hussie. Tenna is uhhhhhh idk, fuckin Tavros or something.
>>530883461Kinda since it seems to also connect to whatever happened with Dess and ended ruining her relationship with Kris
>>530883090FRIEND probably led them to the bunker ("Lost where the forest would grow, the children followed the pointed tail.") It could have been several independent events, but they might have all been together at the time if that theory about Kris and Susie being former friends is correct. If so, Dess was probably there too, maybe Asriel as well.
>>530883635Mostly forgettable. Enemy Retreating is perfect though
>>530884070White boy can't swim?
Preposterous
>>530884151NO DON'T YOU FOOL
>>530883451>it definitely straddles the line between sad breakup song and cuckoldry romanticismThe line about the child of another man is what got me, other than that it was kind of sweet
>isn't gonna turn me into a bottom, even if it is a very sweet thing to hearGood, I like 'em that way
>>530883320Hit the character limit, but the final point to be made is that the world, while unnatural, is made through the inherited power of a child's imagination. Hugo bestowed power upon his friends, which in turn helped them build the utopia they dreamed of, and in doing so eventually ignored him as much as The Queen did.
You could argue it's their biggest sin, forgetting their original friend, but there's signs to show that Dedan at the very least remembers. The Calendars in the puzzle blocking the way to his personal offices are the same calendar pages Hugo gifted him during the apocalypse, and you must know the exact details of said Calendars to be allowed to pass. There must be good still left within them all, even if Enoch especially is such a cruel man. He discovered Sugar in the first place to bake those very pastries he promised Hugo after all.
>>530883704>Her mom??? Her dad??? Her missing sister??? Holy fuck you with you people. I understand you like the ship I do too but you are just ignoring entire parts of the game to justify it.Nta, but you type like a whiny faggot.
Thought the thread theme said "Gaza edition"
>>530883974I do think there's a point here in that, we SHOULD be actively trying to get a different vessel in the normal route because I do think if every chapter ends with
>We puppet Kris for most of the chapter>At the end of the chapter Kris rips us out to to go do thing we don't want>We shrug our shoulders and go "welp"It will get boring quick. The whole guitar scene imo is the pinnacle of the kris player relationship because we actually fight back against kris rather than just "welp that happened"
>>530884176Ralsei isn't white he just sudden onset vitilgo at the end of chapter 1
>>530883320>seemingly working like clockwork and thriving with societyThey literally tell you about all the main elements in Zone 1. You learn that they mine smoke out of mines and breath it instead of air, and you can hear this in their voices everytime an Elsen speaks. It's not thriving in the slightest. The people are terrified of everything, the only one with any power to do anything are the leaders, and said leaders well meaning as some of them may be are unfit to handle the present situation.
>That's simply not trueIt is. Nothing changes about the world by siding with him, and he has no goals beyond not flipping the switch. When he wins against the Batter he simply lets you, the only person who COULD do anything, leave as he lays on the ground for however long the world has left. You arent choosing to save a doomed world, you're choosing to allow it to continue it's crash course. You would reach this exact same ending if you just stopped playing after seeing the purified Zone 1, because regardless of the Batter's actions the world is destroying itself, it'll just take longer to do so than to be put down by someone else
>All we know for sure is that Enoch uses it to placate his workersThis I could be mixing up and it was just smoke, but IIRC they say that they ship Sugar to all the Zones, not just Zone 3. It's something every elsen has to consume in order to mentally handle the realities in front of them, and if it's like any other drug they are far past the point of being able to simply stop using it
>>530881321I tried. When it shows up it makes me really mad. More importantly, I don't want that to be shown by me to other people. That's not my brand to even discuss it. I'm here for the adventure, first and foremost.
Someone asked about the channel. It's called Joe In-Bulk.
>>530882720I love and hate that I'm waiting until Ch7 to even begin checking in DR seriously. So about that 2030 release window?
>>530884214it makes more sense if you treat it as one line with the line that follows it
they're broken up so he's not literally getting literally cucked but it eats him up inside to think of the next guys child having the same eyes as his former lover I relate to this
You like tops?
>>530883713As of this year I am the last remaining Homestuck apologist.
Players often tend to have aspects that challenge them. That's why I think she'd be a Blood hero. Honestly I'd say she might be an Heir (adjacent to Page lol) but I'm not sure if that class is gender-locked?
Also, you should probably GTFO from here until you play the rest of the chapters.
>>530884050Noelle really couldn't care less about her current relationship with Kris. If you tell her Susie bullied you she starts getting horny as fuck instead of comforting her "friend"
>>530883030(You) are the fucked up time thing that shows up when the universe is ending
>>530884378If only I got a chance to actually contemplate that possibility.
Oh, I didn't get bored though. I was the opposite of bored, I was livid. I still remember my reaction to that all the way back in 2021. Like whiplash. And how pretty much everyone accepted it as if it was nothing really confused me.
>>530884378all routes lead to different vessels
what changes is who the vessel is
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>>530883692very good post. I was more meaning about how like just because Undertale/Deltarune is a "lie" so to speak. Doesn't mean that it has the truth within it. Or just because your relationships with these characters arent "REAL" doesnt mean they dont matter. I think That's kinda what Toby's going for with a sorta layered reality approach of the Dark World/Light World/Game Code/Video Games within Video Games. It's a game that's illusionary with the depiction of life but is it not that fiction that makes it beautiful?
>>530884662Yeah it's not too bad in full context but it came across funny because this place has rotted me
>You like tops?Cute lil' tops who I can praise
I love how the "you can't unrape the doe, Toby" is STILL making the fags over a twitter go into nuclear meltdown mode
They are going "he looked up Noelle porn... he should DIE", it's amazing how pathetic those retards are
I WILL FUCK THE DOE AND NO ONE WILL STOP ME!
>>530883017NOOO her story role is defined by breaking the narrative (contrivance, bullshit, like gamzee being immortal because he is) not relationships. The ships are just a result of her rogue or heir class (being a dashing rogue, being the main character)
>>530884465>It is.I'm rejecting that you're saying that choosing The Judge is to stop playing the game. Choosing The Batter is also to stop playing the game, the choice is very literally just who you side with.
>IIRC they say that they ship Sugar to all the ZonesZone 1's explanations say they ship certain elements there to other Zones since they're not in charge of harvesting those materials. Sugar, as far as I remember, is only said to be distributed to workers within the factory.
>It's not thriving in the slightestI had to make two posts, but I say here
>>530884302 about the esoteric nature of the world being a consequence of it being influenced by Hugo. When you defeat him, like other guardians, the color of the world goes away. The world, in fact, looks insanely different than when he first met the original 3 Guardians, and seemingly abnormal things just happen now that they're in charge. They harvest Metal from cows, but where do the metals come from for the cows? They can't be just eating the ground, because that gets formed from them throwing away excess metal from the cows, which can't have happened if the world is just covered in a giant ocean of liquid plastic (which is somehow not literally molten and bubbling).
The very nature of OFF's world is is nonsensical and, while admittedly a theory, feels like it makes sense the world is powered by the imagination of this sick child. Not as in it's all a dream, but that his immense psychic power is allowing the other guardians to paint the world in their colors, and create the world of THEIR dreams. By that nature, I can agree that Hugo being sick means the world is doomed, assuming The Guardian's powers rely on Hugo's livelihood, but I wouldn't argue the world living off Metal, Plastic, Smoke, and Meat makes it an inherently inhospitable world, especially when people ARE living with it. They ARE going to work, they ARE expanding, and dreaming of a bright future. Even if that future is just a promotion.
>>530884731I am a Homestuck is good until Act 6 truther
>>530883692addendum, I will say Undertale is a bit on the preachy side to the point of it being fucking aggravating. I do see why people take the game at face value because Toby really fucking wants to hammer the point home of subverting rpg tropes
>execution points (exp)>love/lv (level of violence)or feeding players bad information and programming toriel to die blow 30% HP so they'll accidentally kill her for shock value when they were intending to spare her only to do the same thing played entirely straight for the fucking Asgore fight.
Undertale does have flaws as fiction using its metanature to bash people over the head with its points. Especially with how tedious and annoying genocide is. Its sorta like how Pathologic despite being a good game sucks to fucking play. Like despite it only possible to be done in a video game i still dont wanna play genocide and spend hours mindlessly killing everything so i can fight two bosses and then have to delete chara so i dont brick pacifism.
By taking its world and views upon it so seriously it makes it hard to actually see the totality of the picture because Toby thinks treating game as content to be consumed is bad.
Its very much up its own ass at times.
>>530884465Putting this out there while the thread's still up to thank you anon. I don't get to talk about OFF to people much, especially to this extent, so it's been nice to get a lot of this off my mind. If only threads for it on /v/ weren't dead (especially with the remake basically killing all discussion into yelling about Toby Fox being a hack, and Mortis being a sellout)
>>530885526>Hehe! rape jokes in a inappropriate space for them make le twitter kiddies seethe! i win!your both cancer.
>>530886297Theres an argument there
>>530885787>Sugar, as far as I remember, is only said to be distributed to workers within the factory.Fair enough on that front then, I guess the guy explaining it calling it the "Secret 5th element" that is actually the most important made me think it was treated the same as all the other elements, being that it would be used in all Zones. That and Sugar, the girl, is in Zone 0 and not 3
>The very nature of OFF's world is is nonsensical and, while admittedly a theory, feels like it makes sense the world is powered by the imagination of this sick childThis is probably my favorite thing about OFF's story, everyone has their own interpretation on how exactly the world is held together and works. This whole thing isnt really an angle I've thought of and yet it still makes sense when used in place of how I view OFF's world.
Though even with that, I still think to call the world "Thriving" is to ignore what's in front of you. There's no individualism allowed for any of the Elsen, they're such hardcore worrywarts that they cant even feel safe reading books in a library, and even all the elements they've specifically chosen to treat as the foundations of reality. They may be alive, in functional health, and still able to talk and work, but it's still a world rotted to its core in such a way that there's virtually no hope it making it better, only more easy to tolerate even without the potential of Hugo dying from his sickness. Eating exclusively meat, especially raw, is not good long term, inhaling smoke destroys your lungs and they'll eventually run out when theres no more mines, and plastic being your water means itll be found in most everything you consume and I dont need to lecture you on microplastics. Even in the worst and darkest of times, happiness and success can indeed be found, but that doesnt make the darkness any less present
>>530886805Hey, same here mate! Glad I got to have this chat with you before this thread was switched OFF
>>530888954I really need to replay OFF. Shit was cash
>>530890116Play the Forgotten Dreams fan version if you want a fresh experience. It changes the combat a little, and gives a slightly reworked translation because a french guy apparently disagreed with how the original translation was handled.
https://ivynivek.itch.io/off-fd-translation
>>530890241Had that version in mind, honestly. Someone posted that translation in this thread before. Might've even been you.
>>530890451It likely was. I am admittedly a shill.
>>530884151It's NSF4 (not safe for 4chan)
https://twitter.com/Honkadoi/status/1942101014225490331