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Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-4
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he's a baa

ralsei's lil dick

>>530919517 (OP)
Undyne should arrest Undyne for sexual harassment.

>>530919569
He's not a baa he's just taken the form of baa to seem more attractive

>"Kriiiiiis..." (you)r voice reverbrates into his mind from behind the locked door.
>Locked outside of Kris' room, (you) within your vessel stand in defiance.
>"Kris, c'mon... You know I can still see you."
>Kris' face flushes with embarrassment as he quickly hides his erection after having just gotten comfortable on his bed.
>(You) rattle the doorknob gently.
>"I just wanna help. I could even make a proper mouth, just for you."
>The loving tone in (you)r voice isn't lost on him as he covers his face with a pillow and groans into it in frustration, thrashing side to side.
>The idea is clearly tempting to him.
>Little by little, (you)'ve eroded his resistance. How much longer he can hold out is only a guessing game.
>"Leave me alone, damn it!" he screams into his pillow.
>The bulge in his pants that he tried to hide under the blanket tells a different story.
>(You) slink away without a word, content with your work for now.
>No longer hearing your voice or even feeling your presence at the door, he moves over to it as silently as he can, then looks under it.
>(You)'re gone.
>He cracks the door and peeks out into the hallway, assuring himself that (you) have left.
>He closes and locks the door again, and gets back into bed with a sigh.
>Deep down, he knows (you)'re still watching.
>The idea of it doesn't disgust him as much as he wants you to believe.

Is there any fan-art of further Titan Spawn evolutions? The game gives us two stages.

how are you're ball's

>>530919569
Look how happy that attention slut is.

>>530919676
I can't help but see vague similarities between these and the library creep.

>>530917308
Alright, let's see it.

OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH YEAH BABY SWING IT SWING IT PAPI PAPI COO TENNY TOO TV TV TENNY WENNY WOO WOO SWINGAREELIDOO WINNY WOO JENNY RENNY JOO TENNY SHENNY WENNY PENNY FENNY FOO FOO ROO ROO REE ROO ROO! OH YEAHHHHH SWING IT BABY SWING ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

>>530919676
huh 2nd ones hair looks like the knight in profile

>>530919727
I see it too

Susie has a lot of hope.
What would it take to break her?

>>530919727
How did he end up getting such poor neck posture, did he game too hard? Is he Berdly's dad?

>>530919721
Where are their arms?

>>530919676
>spamton was viewed by his peers as a bad omen because of his black and white palette and similarity to titanspawn
>or he was a runt who retained too many similarities to titanspawn (proto-darkners) after he'd taken form

>>530919721
I don't get it, why don't the human deltateens have arms?

>>530919740
YEEEAAAAAAAAH

>>530919645

'm tired

>>530919810
Because hands are the worst to draw

>>530919676
Could joke and say the 3 tuft looking bits on the second stage one are the start of the hat and hair of a newly forming shadowguy. Call them baby shadowguys.

>>530919784
>>530919810
>Doesn't Know

>>530919784
>>530919810
Knight immunity

>>530919924
I raff good

>>530919869
Thank you anon, very cool

>>530919569
Hello, fren! :)
How are you today?

>>530919978

>>530919889
jokes aside, as Dark elements maybe the Shadowguys are closer to how the "default" Darkner template (Titans, pure Darkness) is because of that

who here remembers ancient pre-deltarune /drg/

I pray every night and day that the daddy dom shotagotebro poster who would talk about his domgaze and giving shotagotebro a big cummy after he put your penis on the BBQ grill until a charcoal crust formed will return one day...

There will only be one ending only Susie will have the ability to truly end the narrative.

Carol plans to keep the world in an everlasting frozen state, or maybe a timeloop. That will technically not be an ending, simply a restarting of the narrative

>>530919985
Except if it's a titan.

>>530920032
>who here remembers ancient pre-deltarune /drg/
Get back into the ground where you belong you fossil

>>530920018
Once again, I ask, WHERE are their ARMS?

Stitched this for convenience's sake.

>>530920016
Shadowguys aren't Dark, tho. BlackShard's SlayDark does not work against them, and their Element is "CHAOS:MUSIC".

>>530920032
>pre-deltarune /drg/
How does Deltarune affect the Danganronpa General, I don't understand

>>530919776
>Gets "hope crossed on her heart" over the prophecy making her a hero, but then the prophecy ends in a way that breaks her heart so she has to throw that hope away
>Puts Kris's mom on a pedestal as the perfect mother she wishes she herself had, that pedestal is completely broken
Frankly I'll be surprised if she's even in the mood for the Festival or even Lancer's antics
And that's without getting into her future
>Becomes close, ready-to-die-for friends with Kris and Ralsei but they've been conspiring against her and using her as a tool since day one
>The girl that fancies her has some giant unresolved thing with Kris and her missing sister so even if she gets poontang it's probably going to end up sad and upsetting for both involved

>>530920032
Mumbo gumbo jargon barf ahh post

>Tenna was stuck at home
>the Knight cut his arms off
Hmm...

>>530919985
hello hello my friendo
i am doing well today, thank you.
and how are you yourself?

>>530920129
I ate them

Post soul sex

Plot holes that need addressing.
How does Ralsei travel between Dark Worlds?
How does Darkners personally know Darkners from other worlds (Queen and King, ie)?
How come Lancer and Rulzs didn't turn into stone in the TV world?

>>530920204
Uhh shit you're right something something chaos = roaring = primordial darkness

>>530920215
if deltagooners had balls they would have taken /drg/ as the thread title and forced the underkeks into submission years ago. No one even really talks about undertale much here anymore

Toby changing the rose killed most of the rape shitposts, he won.

>>530920324
1) The dark worlds are a river
2) because Kris and Asriel and Noelle would steal things from the library to play pretend with
3) They did. Go back to lancer after you beat tenna

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU5N84F8bxc
The funniest part is how half of his takes are just flat wrong lmao

>>530920342
we can't do that and violate the ancient sans-komaeda Fingers In His Ass treaty, a curse will awaken

>>530920397
Why is female Kris abusing her beloved red soul like that?

>>530920324
why does no one turn into stone in castle town?
>ruzls
who?

>>530920342
why not just take /del/?

>>530920391
It's the reverse. The Queen is a Dess' laptop that got donated to the library. King is a part of a playing card deck that got donated to the school.

>>530920406
>shilling his xitterfag-targeted ragebair contrarian /utg/-appropriating video essay slop
Not my problem, didn't click, link makes mustard gas

>>530919721
susie without being bigger than everyone else isn't susie. it's smallsie and I don't know her.

>>530920032
i don't know that but I was there for the start of utg and doodled asriel in a mario shirt scratchin his balls or something idk I can't find it anymore.

noelle scratching ass

>>530920562
>link makes mustard gas
sick

>>530920406
no one cares. go back

>>530920469
Because Castle Town's Grand Fountain Its Made Of "Pure Darkness" According To Ralsei
Havent You Played The Game? Or Even Seen A Video Of It?

Spitballin time: Undertale is a dream world (or story) manifested to escape the end of the world. the shadow crystals probably serve a purpose in doing this Kris probably out of desire to not be human found a way to remove their soul (maybe suicide). The soul (you) may have been put into kris to save him. The soul seems to be red soul of determination. The red soul is frisk's and chara's. if you explored the weird route someone else thanks you with a flash of red if you think about noelle when ralsei prompts you to think of susie

Why should we hate Toriel again? I lost track.

>>530920561
I don't think they'd donate any of Dess's stuff.

>>530920324
1. Adjacent Dark Fountains are connected within these dark worlds. we see this in chapter 1.
2. Darkners seem to perceive their lives the same whether they're alive in a dark world or not. So Spamton and Tenna know eachother because Spamton is an ad. He was a television commercial.
3. They weren't there long enough for that to happen. Maybe it takes longer each time.
It could also be that they've had more time to acclimate to the pure dark fountain in CastleTown.

>>530920632
I got your mustard gas right here

>>530920663
I have no idea how Chara managed to convince Asriel with that plan

>>530920741
The school supply closet is not adjacent to the library computer lab, Kris's house, or the church.

>>530920843
sus

I love fish

>>530920843
Easy, the original plan was just to kill the jews, but Asriel only agreed if they throw the blacks in too.

>>530920252
I feel very good.
I beat Mega Man X2 this morning. I only had the final gauntlet to go through so I sat down with a cup of coffee and went at it until the end. I will probably skip X3 and go for X4 next.
Just got done making myself another cup and am about to do some light reading.

>>530920843
impasta

>>530920862
Sewers connect everything. It's in the pipes.

>>530920741
The Grand Fountain and the chapters 2, 3 and 4 Dark Fountains are nowhere near adjacent and Spamton and Tenna knew each other because Kris and "the girl" brought the laptop that Spamton was on to Kris's house

>>530920406
he says that?
sometimes i drown out gay noises.
>>530920663
he wouldn't say that.
chara is a xenophile

>>530920862
adjacent Dark worlds. not the real world counterparts. It's a different plane of existence there.

>>530920907
>I will probably skip X3
Good plan, that game is balls
Said uhhhhhh King from Deltarune

>>530920985
Castle Town and Chapter 1's Dark Worlds were only connected because their Light World counterparts also are. That's why they were separated by a giant door, because there was a door in the supply closet that connects to the unused classroom.

I would love it if Kris was the one to get Jealous in chapter 5. Susie takes Noelle so Kris crashes out over it.

Human cemeteries must be horrifying since human souls persist after death. It means that there are swarms of human souls floating and dashing around, looking for something or someone to possess.

>>530921150
they probably hoard them away somewhere so the monsters don't get any ideas

>>530920824
The strength of Undyne herself couldn't pull me out of this man's prime rump roast

>>530921040
What I don't get is why Dreemurr House Dark World had a grand door that connected to the Light World. Castle Town's and Church dark world's exits are spotlights, not grand doors.

>>530921090
Not A Chance
Kris Already Knows Susie Will Take Noelle
She Straight Up Says That To Carol's Face
Besides, Berdly Is There For The Festival In Chapter 5
So Its Not Like They Will Have To Third Wheel It Or Be Alone There

>>530920907
>>530921029
wtf don't skip X3, just play X3 Zero Project.

>>530920424
>Asgore is a cuck
>Kanye is a nazi and sucked his baby cousin's dick until he was 14
>Danganronpa 2 is going to be banned from sale in Texas for child exploitation
>Sans is dickless

We've fallen so far since those days...

>>530921240
Cute

>>530921309
what a timeline.

>>530921090
Three levels of escalating jealousy
>Noelle gets jealous of Susie and Kris and their Dark World adventure secret if that comes up
>Susie gets jealous of Kris and Noelle and whatever relationship they have that they seem to be keeping a secret from her, feeling like she's being left out on purpose again by people she thought were her friends, even though Noelle doesn't really know what that relationship even is
>Kris gets jealous of Susie and Noelle despite feeling like they don't deserve Susie's friendship to begin with because of the whole Knight betrayal thing but they just can't help it as their conflicting loyalties tear them apart from the inside
It's going to be delightful

>>530921150
>>530921189
I don't think that possessing a monster is a good idea, considering even the most weak-willed monster can suppress your will, and your merged SOUL will permanently shatter if monster died. Merged human-monster SOULs can't persist after death.

>>530919645
I'd love kris to facefuck (Me)

>>530921418
I think the first is weird route material.
the second one is the LEAST likely
third is just ME.

>>530921437
imagining strong-willed SOULs of dead human fighters force-possessing monster opponents and suicide attacking other monsters before taking their possessed monster host with them in permadeath

>>530921418
anyway please consult the graph for ch5 relationship dynamics.

>>530921737
susie should oppose sans, dumbass

>>530921737
how are your earholes?

How will toby give you bad consequences for doing sword route without feeling bullshit?
NesKris and Ramb can't really judge you, a non nes darkner caring about the nesdarkners would be strange.

>>530921737
>excuse me?
*ExCHEESE me?

Krautsie schizoing hours

>>530921836
You get all the power you want, killing darkners/lightners is easy, but all relationships break down around you and you have to fight everyone in unique battles and settings.

>>530921790
the line intersections do not count as a form of attraction.
its two triangles imposed on one another to save space.

all sides feature one opposition between two that like one girl noelle being the prize on the top and toriel being the prize below.
should've put susie up there because susie is actually likeable.

I want to see Gerson interact with Spamton and Jevil

>>530921836
If Sword Route has any consequences it's going to be tied to
>ERAM being let free
>Ramb disappearing
>Playing the game somehow tied to Kris's past and psyche enough for Kris's eyes to start "flickering red" and apparently enjoying it
It's not a "that 8 bit monster in a video game had a family BAD TIME" thing but a something has changed within Kris thing

>>530921437
well, the issue is more that a monster could take your soul and turn itself into a supercharged creature

Would your fave enjoy the same music you're into, anons?

>>530922178
No, not at all.

>>530921920
i do worse shit.

>>530922178
Yeah maybe

>>530920018
Noelle's Sprite needs some work doing, her eyes are way too schmall and kinda creepy. No eyebrows, and her upper lip seems too short.

>>530921836
Ralsei will prepare and set up a videogame party. The trio playing games together. Except this heartwarming moment will not happen because you killed mini-Susie and mini-Ralsei, and mini-Kris fucked off. Game turns on, but characters are not there. Ralsei will apologize for this and will get really sad. Susie will get depressed. Kris will just stand there with poker-face. The End, you silently exit Castle Town.

Is Everyman a purified titan spawn?

>>530922178
Yes.

Ngl I think Noelle is flat as hell

>>530921418
>Asgore jealous of Sans because lol Jitterbug
>Catti jealous of Susie because she gets Kris's Dark World adventures and Noelle's butt
>Berdy mad at Kris and Susie for having become friends with him but then dropping him when they re-entered the Light World because they kept it a secret
>Even Ralsei starts getting jealous of the Lightners for getting to go to the Festival despite himself
Are there more potential jealousies

>>530921853
GOD

DAMN IT

Anyone else disappointed with Gerson's battle? I love the guy, his theme, his role, his laugh, etc, but the battle... I didn't expect it to be another knight but I beat it second try, it was too damn easy

>>530922629
>Aged-down Noelle is flat
duh

Dess
Asriel
Noelle
Kris

DANK squad.

>>530922127
It makes sense, Kris does 3x damage against tenna instead of 0.5x if you did sword route. The third board was also supposed to be fucked if you did sword route.

Snowgrave route will make Noelle into a Schizo and give her a NEO form.

She will be
neoelle.

>>530922685
Dess can feel it poking the back of her head.

>>530922734
That's because Tenna blabbed about the deal. Kris wants to silence him.

>>530922647
Toriel jealous of Carol for having a child who (appears to) still be at least somewhat close and communicative
Carol jealous of Toriel for at least having both her kids not dead/missing
Alphys jealous of everyone else apparently having people to date while she thinks Undyne ghosted her
Rudy also jealous of everyone since he's still sick and likely won't be able to enjoy the festival near as much as he normally would, if at all
There's probably more in there, too, I could see everything becoming an absolute disaster even before dark world bullshit inevitably happens

>>530920018
>>530922376
Here's a quick correction I thew together in paint.net

>>530922862
where is this dess and kris rape ship coming from
someone help me
I'm old

>>530922685
The heroes and two cucks.

>>530922647
>>530922892
Don't forget MK, Snowy, Pizzapants, Mettaton/Hapstablook, Napstablook, and Maddie

>>530922862
Shut the fuck up

>>530922935
One schizo forcing a meme

>>530922964
Hapstablook is probably safe from jealousy (for the time being) if you give them Tenna.

>>530922629
After a quick trip to kemono dot party I can confirm that lumineko is a fellow cunnyseur AND a huge fan of ponyKINO to boot! Knowing my fellow doefriends have such AMAZING tastes that line up so very well with my own just makes me even more GLAD to be apart of this GREAT community! I'm a Bejitabro btw

>>530922257
Very cute and helpful guide, anon-kun

>>530922665
Yeah, it's my least favorite of the secret bosses. It felt simultaneously too hard (personally suck at green soul mode and my computer couldn't handle it and kept slowing down), and then too easy once I got past those hurdles. I thought "That's it, not even a full-screen attack?"
>>530922734
>The third board was also supposed to be fucked if you did sword route.
Source? It makes sense, obviously no mini Susie and Ralsei, I just want to know how the game would've handled it.

can someone explain to me why noelle's implied rape in the snowgrave route of ch2 is okay, your implied rape is not and why is everyone upset about kress?

i am starting to see patterns.

>>530923016
worst post I've seen in some time

>>530922665
I found it pretty hard, not as hard as Jevil or the Knight but harder than Spamton Neo. Unsure whether it was harder than Eram or not. But I absolutely loved the mentorial aspect of the battle, how it's all one magnificently tailored lesson to bring the best out of Susie, and hint at the meaningful dimensions of the prophecy without slavishly adhering to it.

>>530923101
If you’re talking about the Susie/Noelle scene we don’t get to see in ch. 2 snowgrave, I’m pretty sure it wasn’t rape, Susie seems pretty excited when she comes out and smirks when she says she’ll tell Kris about it later (which she never did)

>>530923082
https://tcrf.net/Deltarune/Chapter_3/Unused_Text

>>530923319
Thanks, I somehow thought only Ralsei's dialogue was sword route-exclusive when I read this on the site.

>>530923287
exactly what i was trying to say the last four years.
i have mixed feelings that my noelle theories are mostly coming true.
it might bring susellefags some harsh dismay.

>>530922892
There's Pizzapants's catfishing thing but I don't know if that counts as jealousy
Maybe if he does go to a Dark World he'll run into what he thinks is the real Pizzarina and Nice Cream Bunny gets jealous?

Kris's character arc? Dess.

>The faded Rudinn says "Your town's love is Cracked." if you haven't recruited everyone
>King's check description says "Abandoned by the Lightners, his heart became cracked with hatred."
>Spamton's heart is visibly cracked, and one of his lines is "[BreaKing] and [CracKing]"
This will maybe be important later.

What do you think are the chances Rudy *doesn’t* die? How do you think his death/non-death will affect the story? Do you think it’ll be different depending on route?

>>530923825
Do we think that’s Spamton’s actual heart or just part of the NEO body

>>530923880
He will die from sadness in the weird route and then Noelle will become Darth Vader

>>530922647
>>530922892
at this point I am convinced the worst jealousy there could be is Ralsei jealous of Asriel attending the festival while we find out Asriel is someone who shuns escapism and wants to end Kris going to the dark world/implying killing Ralsei.

This is what we in the industry call "A pro gamer move"

>>530923825
>your love is cracked
also appears after continuing snowgrave

I don't care about your dead series, Hussie.

be honest with me. Whats the realistic outcome after pacifist. Will monsters get purged by humans?

>>530923880
0%. He dies in all routes, permanently.

>>530924020
>listens to j cole once

>>530923880
I give it 50/50 odds, leaning towards him surviving to the end of the game but not having that much time left or dying during a timeskip to the epilogue
His sickness seems tied to however Carol's "freeze everything in place" thing is going to pan out and with all the other stuff that's going on I dunno if there's time for him to have a big death scene and for everyone involved to start grieving him

Imagine Noelle vowing to outgross Kris to get to Susie
>"This soup bangs"
>*sluuurp*"Wanna sip Noelle"
>"Uhm, ehm yeahh suure"
>Noelle leans gently and takes a lil sip
>She proceeds to violently spit it out
>*gag* "How old is this soup Kris!???"
>"Idk, we stole it from the back of the shop, so liiike a week or somethin"
>Room is suddenly filled with the scent of half-digested candy canes and eggnog as Noelle projectile vomits on Susie's shoes
>....later that day....
>Noelle storms into her room, immediately dropping onto her bed with teary eyes
>As she calms down, she gently reaches for something under her bed
>It's a meticulously decorated ivory case with gold plated deltarune in the middle, flanked by mistletoe branches
>As she opens it, she reveals a crocodile leather scourge whip with Holiday family emblem etched into handle
>As she sets aside her holiday themed sweater and undershirt, she begins to steadily self-flagellate
>*whip*
>"Ugh, why did you embarrass yourself like that stupid"
>*whip*
>"Right in front of Susie of all people"
>*whip*
>"You need to correct this immediately"*pant*
>*whip*
>"Tomorrow"
>*whip*
>......the next day.....
>"Oh heeey Susie, hihi, did you know that hahaa, I like to eat shit *giggles profusely*
>"....NOELLE WHAT THE FU"

need dino…

>>530922909
Make Susie more messy/goofy like sharper Egbert teeth

>>530924034
it does not. It's a recruitment thing.

Toby? Toby Fox? Is that you?
Toby, I can't and won't make this any simpler for you.
You failed at life. You failed. When one thinks of what man is capable of, pushing himself to the limits physically, mentally and emotionally to achieve heights of success never before mentioned, your name will not be whispered in the same, reverent fashion that others have.
Nobody will remember Toby Fox. You aren't even a header or a footer in the career of someone else. You are nobody. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.
In short, you are an enormous failure.
Toby, being that you're about 31 years old and your brain has probably hard-wired itself to accept such failures by now and write off such criticism by being "flippant", really suggests that you've passed beyond the proverbial breaking-point. There's no turning back. This is your career, this is what defines you and this is what you'll defend to the end.
The abhorrent failure that is Deltarune, Toby Fox, that is your legacy.
Maybe I'm over-reaching, however. Who knows? People CAN change. Maybe you'll read this, Toby, and think long and hard about what a wasteful life you've led. Maybe you'll think, "wow. It's incredible just how abysmal and pathetic I really AM!" Maybe you'll lift some weights in the morning. Maybe you'll take a self-help class.
Maybe in a couple of years, Toby, you'll have learned from this failure. I doubt it, though.
I genuinely doubt it.
Now excuse me, I have to work on Hiveswap Act 3. My accountant estimates sixty dollars in sales.

>>530924060
Humans were never real. Monsters caged themselves in a mass delusion.

>>530924202
At least Toby isn't on the prowl for fans to groom after his daughterwife divorced him

I LOVE TENNA!!! I LOVE TV!!!!!

>>530924197
however, notice how its not immediate?

>>530924272
undertale fans have got to be unfuckable

>>530923129
unfortunately I sent the post too quickly so I wasn't able to mention the additional Noelle drawing from the artist where she's a small child grabbing her father's penis

>>530924159
Berdly accidentally outdoes them simply by being an unapologetic gooner who's into food costumes and healthy play yoyo dieting that rapidly switches from Feederism to proana. Proudly wearing a hoodie of Dragon Blazees yaoi to school that technically can't be apprehended from him because his fetishes are so niche they can't be considered pornography by hometown's most traditionalist decency laws

>>530924173
Dude...she is 14.

>>530924060
Monsters become second-class citizens farmed for their rare materials or pimped out to rich furries, with only some monsters treated well enough to get their precious gold over a longer period of time, while providing a good image to placate the masses with.

>>530924538
you're fourteen.

>>530924337
weeeyylp i'm goin to bed

>>530923973
It's hard to say. The heart has Spamton's face, so he definitely modified it if it was originally part of the NEO body. Rouxls mentions having a heart (he says something like "Perhaps I could find it in my heart to spare you..." in Chapter 1), which would imply that Darkners do have those.

>>530919517 (OP)
Does Alphys wear anything underneath?

>>530924573
grim but this is the most realistic outcome

since we're already hitting rock bottom, how about some theories?

>>530924060
mettaton turns into a tank and drives over the us embassy in a publicity stunt

>>530924750
Kris is EVIL

>>530924323
Honestly it's such a wide net that you're bound to have a few worthwhile catches

>>530924827
I said theories, not obvi(ousi)es.

>>530924603
Yeah, I’d say Darkners do definitely have hearts as they’ve mentioned them plenty of times (Rouxls’ dialogue you just mentioned, Elnina’s “In… our hearts?”, Jevil’s “A BEAUTY IS JOYING IN MY HEART”, and Ralsei’s “She’s so nice, it makes my heart hurt.”). I dunno if robo/digital Darkners like Spamton and Tenna would have them, but since Darkners don’t really seem to abide by physiological laws (I mean, Tenna’s nose can just spawn and respawn), I’d say probably. Spamton also mentions having a heart several times in his NEO battle dialogue so I’d say he does have one too. Still dunno if his [[HeartAttack]] is his actual heart, though.

>>530924750
Kriselle is canon

>You like this girl right
>Yeah but SOUL
>She wants to use you as a lawnmower
>Yeah SOUL but
>But what
>Muh Dess
I never knew being a guardian Angel sent from HEAVEN to guide the lost would be this difficult

>>530924970
yeah but the means of getting there are less wholesome.

Okay, now the real question, does Spamton have intestines?

>>530924173
what if dino and kris kissed

>>530925075
Aborted snowgrave it is

>>530924750
Less of a theory and more of an idea... the belief that the weird route ends at chapter 5 turns out true, because noelle rejoins the party and there's another fight against the knight. Turns out using snowgrave against the knight works... and noelle realizes she just killed her sister.

The route ends with noelle going full fucked up and freezes everything including the game itself making it not playable anymore. If you try and load the save you just get a screen of snow falling with the distant sound of wind blowing.

>>530923825
>Love is cracked
>Soul is heart shaped, represents love
>Weird route scene replaced with cracks
Ergo, Toriel secretly does crack from time to time as she's still addicted to it from her party days. Thank you for reading my theory

>>530924750
The knight isn't quite Dess herself, but rather her body being puppeted by something (Friend?) while her soul is stuck in the code, and on a perfect pacifist run with all shadow crystals, it might just be possible to bring her back fully, or at bare minimum as a permanent friendly darkner similar to Gerson.

twittershitter complaining about pronouns again and accidentally inspired a player x kris scenario that appeals to my fetish

>>530925398
I don't have that fetish but it still appeals to me just because it sounds hilarious

>>530925398
Twitterfags somehow never seem to understand that hatefucking is the #1 thing people want to do with Kris and this only adds fuel to the fire

>>530925398
I can't tell if this is just a simple joke, or the twitter user actually thinks that Kris and the player are on equal footing.
One is a real person, and the other is a set of pixels and code.

>>530925556
That post exemplifies why I hate twitter and social media in general. Either that post is engagement bait, someone's fetish, and last on the fucking list is a joke. It could have been a funny joke any normal fan could have laughed at but that's so far removed from all possibility

snowcoom
snowgoon
snowgroom

this noelle is so rucoikg cute

Kris = Aghanim
Dess = Ganon

Sorry Noelle, but me, Susie and Vessel need to kill them both to save the world of Deltarune

>>530925635
snowman
snowangel
snowboarder

>>530925328
doesn't sound too unreasonable as an idea.
the game being a cascading graph of choices.
and you literally have to fine-tune your entire run to go further into the story.
its a good reason to level up your doe.
>good route: she reacts to noelle's presence by attacking slower, less hard, but eventually she says something and the knight hesitates, stops and goes away or does some big reveal. (you could say dessie forgot herself)
>snwograve means you get to kill her in an epic fight
>>530925321
but that makes prevents kriselle.
this is why the scene is so important.
either she will keep telling herself its a dream or she will be pushed over the edge with only you to hang on to.

I wanna talk about Spamton’s guts dangit

Krusie is based because it cucks Noelle twice over because she likes both Kris AND Susie

>>530925708
>but that makes prevents kriselle.
it prevents soulelle

>>530925725
But why

>>530924538
>she is 14
Proof?

>>530925780
Noelle will be twice as happy

>>530925838
you are more kris than kris is.
you are the reason he has half the friends he has now.
YOU do the adventures, you fight the fights.
you seal thea dark fountain.
KRIS on the other hand works with the holidays, treats you like garbage and is a big wrench in my plans.

what the fuck does kris do to think he deserves anything. you thank the pot for holding water but not the man that brought you the pot.

>>530925309
Need an edit of them with this

>>530925794

>>530925556
I don't think they have to be on equal footing for the post to work

>>530925923
Morbid curiosity
How hard can I poke his little body before I hurt something in there?

When I role play as the soul I'm it/its

>>530926057
It's saying that it's just as ridiculous for the character to disagree on the player's gender as it is for the player to disagree about the character's gender.
But only one of us is real enough to verify it.

>>530926129
Not *am/*ME?

>>530923000
mettaton will be jealous of tenna and possess him to get that sweet robot ass

>gender discussion
/v/ thread got saged?

>Twitter gets a hold of the "You can't unrape the doe" image
>they act like it's the coming of Satan
It worries me the amount of shit that I consider to be normal internet humor but other people declare as unforgivable.

>https://youtu.be/-drXtC53Kwc?list=RD-drXtC53Kwc
let's all calm down to the anthem of rape.

>>530926298
it is kinda intentionally cringe/weird, isnt that the point. to a well adjusted person at least

>>530920907
sorry for late reply, but have a good day fren :D

>>530926198
>just as
No
It's saying that it's ridiculous/disrespectful at all, helped by transferring out-of-story actions to a diegetic context (which is the gimmick the game pulls to begin with)
I don't understand where you're getting this "equal" thing from

>>530923825
Note also that the cracked heart emits diamonds. Unlike Clubs and Spades, diamonds have continued to be used by various Darkners, including Zappers and Gueis in Chs 3 and 4 respectively.

>broken hearts
>mysterious chaperones to the egg/lost world/flying aces
>ghostly votives that Kris and Susie pay respect to, in particular wrt Rudy's mortality

And of course the Choco Diamond is Kris's favourite snack food. Feels like there's something to Diamonds that's being hinted at.... what could "Jewel"'s elemental double be? Shatter?....

>>530926350
I find it more ridiculous than anything, because it actually reflected how people were discussing the scene.

>Noelle and Dess
>Sunny and Mari
>Bo and Henry
“My sibling and I have our whole lives ahead of us!” No you don’t, you play a string instrument in an RPG.

>>530926350
it isn't really cringe but a matter of someone's intellectual property doing better when it goes against the interpretation of its author.

the fact that it got to toby, the fact that snowrapists got a little steamed over it and that cultural expressions like these became a thing, THAT is the joke.
but catladies with pronouns in their bio are immune to humor, nuance.
they lack the ability to perceive breakfast or imagine an apple in their head.

let them be mad about it.

>>530926485
i believe SHE can break the curse

>>530922935
>getting a stiffy around a pretty older girl you look up is rape

Least senile oldposter

>>530926397
Thanks! You too! :)

>>530924174
1) I don't take orders from people who aren't paying me
2) I don't think it's necessary, humans don't have sharp teeth and this is a human Susie. It would be like putting real horns on Noelle.

>>530926501
>the fact that it got to toby
keep telling yourself that

>>530926485
Playing the guitar or the violin is a shortcut to making a character seem deep so you feel sad when they die.

All the humans are ambiguous autistic rpg characters

So did Toby ever explain why Frisk and Kris are fucking yellow or..? Is it some Simpsons shit? Is this how "white" looks in this universe

>>530926526
her brother is off in another post apocalyptic universe rolling around and shooting dimension travelling cops

>>530924272
Whatwhat

>>530926678
If that's white, what's Chara?

>>530920129
Try retrieving them from the chest.

>>530926723
Vampire

>>530926628
three patches changing the sprite tell me a different story.

>>530926678
hasn't it been estabilished for a while that it's so they're racially ambiguous?

>>530926501
>it got to Toby
Maybe I should stop drawing ralsei getting his dick played with

>>530926640
Bo’s plot in LISA is a few minutes long and it still gets me, doesn’t even have to do much with the guitar

Are the tenna fans here women who want to fuck him or gay men who want to fuck him or both? I'm confused

>>530926723
Asian.

>>530924538
out of 10

Did you get owned by the game?

>>530926678
Racially amorphous

>>530927058
fucking lol

>>530926002
>you are more kris than kris is.
noelle doesn't seem to think so

>>530927058
Tony doesn't care that much about undertale, it was a training exercise for his life's work designed to pander to the sissy tumblr fandom spaces he was part of

>>530926678
Frisk is the only child of Arnold Shpitz

>>530927010
both of course

>>530927252
that is the most jewish name.
>>530927168
glad that this is consequence free from where i stand.
you look at me like i am asking noelle to fall in love with *ME over kris, when i have different motives.

usually and very understandable, people react different when raped.

>>530926692
reference?

>>530924750
The knight is FRIEND, it is possessing a body (mechanical, organic, or both) that kris helped it steal from the hidden gastery part of the mayor's basement

Friend is somehow connected to dess disappearance/death which it appears as a nightmare and gives us a panic attack.

>>530927415
>chair
>chairiel
>toriel variable
TOBYYYYYYY

I'm really looking forward to taking Noelle to the festival. I can't wait to see the sparks fly. I can't wait to see Susie become the third wheel as every adult in town comments in cute and wholesome the childhood friends together at last are. I know it's probably going to turn into a giant wreck, but it will be a glorious moment.

>>530927395
nuclear throne, one of the main characters is an anthropomorphic fish who also is/was a cop and also has an eyepatch (in his B skin) and just so happens to play a guitar

>>530927415
friend seems to be a lot of things.
its very confusing to me, really.
i am part of the club of dumbasses that believe FRIEND is flowey.

>>530927415
>gives us
us?

The knight is your mom

>>530927372
Jewish name for a guy who looks like Hitler and wears the number 88 on his chest

>>530927776
True…

>>530927706
Shpitz would be how germans pronounce Spitz (pointy).
Illiterations are a thing very, VERY common with them.
schwartz instead of schwarz, roth instead of rot. schmidt instead of schmied, thal instead of tal.

>>530927415
I don't think DEVICE_FRIEND corresponds to any real world object in the way a standard darkner does. It's likely more like the titans in terms of its ontological nature and purpose. Its presence in that ralsei sequence about the nature of dark worlds seems like it's meant more to indirectly challenge Ralsei's stated argument for the player's benefit more than anything else. It comes right after the end of chapter 2 where Ralsei reveals that he was withholding key information about the prophecy from Kris and Susie because he didn't want to stress them out by letting them know how high the stakes are. It's not unreasonable to assume that Ralsei is also trying to water down or misrepresent the dark worlds in his scene in chapter 3, likely to obscure some sort of uncomfortable or unpleasant truth about them.

>>530927415
Can't wait to see your reaction in 2030.

>>530927583
* Your vision narrows.
* Your chest feels tight.
* You felt lightheaded.
* You saw golden stars...

>>530926770
he changed that because his playerbase are retarded. not for this autistic gennie

OMG GUYS I FOUND IT I FOUND THE RAREST CAT!!!!

>>530927856
Kraut…

>>530927776
>flowey - inventor of the truth nuke.
>50Kg of enriched thruthium inbetween two beryllium hemispheres.

>>530927904
that's about kris though. we just feel what they feel because we're possessing them

>>530927904
>Kris sniffing Dess's armpits

>>530927518
oh okay thanks

>>530927904
Why golden stars specifically?

when you get to the angel’s heaven but it’s chinese

>>530928074
>kris likes eating moss because dess made them go down on her untrimmed cooch

>>530927993
just good at noticing.
don't mind me.
>>530927909
his playerbase can read the room and he is guilty of being a little too on the nose and he has nintendo breathing down his neck.
yeah, the fandom is retarded, but that's how he makes money.

>>530928103
something something weeping fallen star

>>530928105
does this heaven have some sort of mandate?

>>530928103
Knight beat Kris into seeing the chapter select screen and those stars that signify a finished save

I did not care for lancer.

>>530928103
Kris wants to be a big shot like his brother

Asgore reportedly lost the Mandate of Heaven

>>530927894
Dess knighters are in for the biggest crashout imaginable next year

>>530928314
kek she is female Berdly.

>>530928213
beat the Knight’s staff ghost to unlock gold Ralsei

Think they need to get back in the kitchen on this one, feels like the most dumbed down monster hunter and it runs like crap, none of the fights felt challenging at all.

>>530928365
i tell you, if asgore is not getting iced in ch5, its her.

>>530928437
i dont think kris will let us kill her father, that's like endgame shit

>>530928325
Whatever makes you feel better.

I think people wrote off Chess Theory way too quickly. There are only 6 distinct pieces in chess and 7 chapters, and Chapter 4 is the only outlier. We got Knight in Chapter 3, I'm guessing we're getting Bishop and Rook in some order in chapters 5 and 6, with Pawn being the actual final boss of the game... Kris

>muh chapter 5 knight reveal
Toby is a hack that loves mother 3 too much, we’re not getting the reveal until chapter 8.

>>530924524
I know that greentext is nasty, but your comment is somehow even nastier

>>530928105
It's okay, I just didn't think it would be Chinese.

>>530928476
kris has some control, and its not as sporadic as we make it. so there's truth there.
kris is immensely sentimental for some reason.
kris flinches to the side when you kill ralsei or susie in the videogame with the sword.
kris clearly can't even bare to look to see you kill pixel depictions of his friends.

>>530928520
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2IT2YzscSE
The Titan easily fits in as a Rook

>>530928558
Just because the story feels like it should go a certain way it doesn't mean it has to

>>530928520
chess theory is a huge reach that ultimately means nothing. i don't know why people cling to it so hard.

>>530928520
Let it go, there was chess imagery in Chapter 1 because it was a literal playroom. Castle Town is literally that, a castle, if you bring Tenna there it even tells you that he's now the court jester.

>>530924750
Thorn ring came from a rose character we're going to meet in chapter 5. Might've been puppeting Spamton Neo with its vines. There's a lot of plant related stuff being hinted at.

>>530928672
all of his dialogue is Toby trying to justify his unpredictability complex

>>530928558
People were saying the Knight wouldn't show up at all until endgame

>>530928917
Spamton was puppeted by guitar strings anon.

>>530924750
>Friend is the same thing as (You)r SOUL, but for Gaster, it's his avatar in the game that controls an unwilling vessel(Dess/The Knight)
>this might be foreshadowed by Spamton's(same as 90% of post Ch2 plotpoints) "Heart on a Chain" attack having the Friend eyes
>Gaster is Xehanort trying to fulfill his "Clash of 13 Darknesses Vs 7 Lights"(his Deltarune)
>Kris's promise to Carol is to take back Dess by playing their part of Gaster's plan, either by seeing the prophesy to the end so that he releases her, or by saving her at an opportune time(possibly teased by the shadow monster room in Sword Route?)

>>530928948
Masked Man appears at the end of a mid-game chapter after you beat a funny robot

What if you laid Spamton on his back (he has no idea what’s going on but he’s too small to resist so he doesn’t try to), then pressed down on his little body harder yet harder until you felt something crack?

Why can't I draw? Why can't I place the things I see in my mind onto the canvas? Why do I not improve no matter how hard I try? Why must I redraw the same line over and over again because it isn't correct, and even still the final result is unsatisfactory?
I'm average at so many other things. Why am I not average at this?

>>530928917
golly gosh gee whiz, do i know a thorny boy.
>>530929019
guitar strings that just happen to be green to grown out of the walls, the theme there is called "DIGITAL ROOTS" not "DIGITAL STRINGS"

>>530929148
Anon fighting the villain once before the true showdown happens in a lot of games, especially jrpgs.

The Knight is actually just Jenova taking the form of the Knight to lead Kris to the Northern Crater so they can give Dess the Black Materia

TOWER! TOWER!

>>530929195
I know it's hard to take encouragement with art but I was the exact same and it took me years before I gained confidence in visualizing the thing to draw. Learn some basics and structure to help you and start with simple subjects (maybe draw napstablook to make an IT example)

>>530929386
i played that whole game and still have no idea what the fuck Sephiroth or Cloud are, does Nomura even know?

>>530929416
kris wen 9 11 idk

>>530929596
why is gaster drooling into his mashed potatoes

>play the witcher3
>investigate a monster attack
>dead people and ruins
>some random nobleman NPC shows up
>tells me not to kill the responsible monster
>because it is le specil monster that needs preservation
>it is literally just a mspaint reskin of a default wyvern or whatever it was called
>this nobleman NPC keeps yelling and cursing me throughout the entire quest
>because i chose to bring it to justice with the sword
when i completed the quest i was both confused and annoyed, what did the devs mean by this? i think i finally understand the undertale/deltarune genocide route players point of view.

there is nothing under the Knight’s helmet, that’s just what he looks like. he will become chill by chapter 6 and run a churro cart

>>530929548
Sephiroth is a test tube baby who developed a god complex because the people who made him were assholes.
Cloud is a random soldier who got whacked by Sephiroth so hard he started remembering his past wrong.
Neither of them are Nomura's characters no matter how much he wants to pretend they are.

>>530928103
They walk

How assault-able is Spamton

>>530929736
we’re any of the sephs real before the one inside the bigass mako crystal

>>530929781
anon have you played the game Spamton is the one assaulting you

>>530927252

>>530929801
No, retard, those are pieces of Jenova taking Sephiroth's form to lure you. Sephiroth is "dead" the whole game until the end

making spamton wear diaps to infantilize him

>>530929832
Right but theoretically if one wanted to assault him. How easy would it be? He’s pretty small right

WE ARE FETUSES
YOU CAN KILL US

>>530930006
responsibility scawwy.

>>530929938
How the fuck I'm just now realizing Kishimoto copied FFVII's Sephiroth-Jenova trick with Obito and Madara

>>530927776

good morning. remember to tell your tv you love him today

>>530930115
the SCHOLARS of /utg/ foster nothing but the deepest of media discussion.

>>530929548
Cloud is a kid from Nibelheim who got a superiority complex over being left out, tried to join SOLDIER, failed and that turned into an inferiority complex
Sephiroth is a super soldier who has always thought of himself as special and above everybody else, thinks his mother is "Jenova" when he was really born to Hojo and Lucrecia (Vincent's crush)
Cloud returns to Nibelheim with Sephiroth and Zack but keeps himself hidden because he's embarrassed to face Tifa after talking big, Sephiroth finds out that "Jenova" is some alien and that he's actually not fully human and doubles down on his superiority complex, burns down the village, gets whacked by Cloud and falls into the Lifestream but manages to survive and starts planning to become god
Cloud and Zack are used for Jenova cell experimentation, they manage to escape but Zack gets gunned down, Tifa finds Cloud who puts his catatonic and guilt-ridden mind together by adding in bits of Zack's personality and history which makes Tifa really scared when he remembers being at Nibelheim but Tifa doesn't
Sephiroth starts his Reunion plan, all the Jenova cell experiments (the so-called "Sephiroth clones") start heading for the crater where he's hiding and this includes Cloud, Jenova escapes the Shinra building and disguises itself as Sephiroth to manipulate Cloud into finding the Black Materia and giving it to his real body at the crater, at this point Cloud stops being useful to Sephiroth so he's discarded until he gets his shit back together and you head to the crater to finish things
Said Alphys

Made a spreadsheet for all the equipment in Deltarune thus far

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VvY0lXxe1y-zmGtIK7GEuzQumHU2Elgr3rm9lerUIcY/edit?usp=sharing

Let me know if I've missed anything, and if the key needs explaining

>>530929979
No he's a big shot

>>530930313
right but hes little

>>530930225
>internet comes back
>Queen catches up to seven years of memes and picks up sharty lingo

>>530930279
least complex JRPG plot

>>530930392
Kris.
How Come There Are So Few Darkeners You've Recruited Last Dark World?
Could It Be That You Have L Rizz?

can we... just kill her?

>>530925398
Nanachi's gender discourse is never this toxic, even among redditors and twittoids.

I will never understand how the fuck they care this much.

>>530930279
>Kris = Cloud
>Dess = Sephiroth
>Noelle = Tifa

holy shit...

>>530925398
I’ll be whatever he wants!

>>530930431
t. gaster believer

>>530930282
Good job

>>530930279
why do japanese people get such a hard-on for german?

they always use gibberish german words or name their characters some dumbass shit like in frieren.
Graf Votzenknecht Adolf Shitler the IV von Hattetwas a.d. Marmel.

maybe we should just nuke em again.

>>530930662
potato man actually

>Just finished FFVII/Crisis Core not too long ago
>utg is talking about it now
Please stop stalking me guys

>>530930694
Cheers, currently doing one for enemy stats

>>530930282
Good shit. Also damn, Ralsei gets a +2 Magic boost at best. Why the fuck does he suck so much?

>>530930945
We are the light inside your soul

>>530930751
They do it with all foreign languages they admire but don't understand. Russian, French, English...

Was talking about this with someone yesterday. They've just finished watching AOT, and they said to me they've just realised the lyrics in a song are German, it sounded so Japanese lolol.

>>530930945
We’re with you in the dark.

>>530930751
European langauges sound as cool and exotic to them as nipponese sounds to us.

*glomps kris*

>>530930945
Don't Forget.
We're with (You) in the Dark.

HARVEST NUMBER 17
STARCH
STARCHER
YET STARCHER
THE STARCHNESS KEEPS GROWING
THE ROOTS DIGGING DEEPER
SOIL PH NEGATIVE

=)

>>530931341
pretty corny

>>530931180
Dess...

>>530931113
i've heard it with english (engrish) and german (doitsu)
never with russian or french to be honest.

Nibelheim is clearly a wordplay on the mythical epic of germany "Lied der Niebelungen" (Song of the Nibelung) and the -heim suffix just meaning "home" but is common in norse Mythology as "heimr" for realms, dimensions.

a person can be zuhause anywhere, but daheim is where the heart is.

>>530919676
What about these ones?

>>530931097
I'd hazard that Toblerone his hinting us towards something akin to the role swap between Garnet and Eiko in Final Fantasy IX (since we're talking about FF in this thread) - Garnet is a healer and Eiko a summoner initially, but as they game goes on they eventually swap positions. Susie and Ralsei eventually turn into a white mage and glass cannon melee fighter? It's more likely than you think. :^)

>>530931436
WRONG CROP
RETARD
GET THE FUCK OUT OF…
MY POTATOFARM.

>>530930392
>>530930517
queen will become the next shizoboss because of this

>>530919702
the poopshitter (single)

My vessel shall be capable of breeding with male darkners and creating half-human illusions

>>530931541
This bitch better give me a boss fight half as good as Asgore's.

>>530919645
>>530919869
is this a sequel to that three parter from a few threads ago

>>530931723
my vessel will love Kris!!!!!

>>530931456
She can’t help it

THE CHAPTER 5 SCHIZO BOSS!

>>530931465
There's a number of characters in Suda51 games (I'm a massively fan of his wok) with gratuitously silly Russian titles. French names typically turn up in anime, and sometimes in things like shounen attack names and JPop song lyrics.

>Nibelheim
Yep - the fact that the town is misty etc. all ties it into Niflheim - Home of Mist, with a slight Germanic mispelling as Nebel = mist. Sometimes the slight warping of wordsmakes it feel more natural, akin to how languages truly evolve.

It all ties in to themes like Midgar = Midgard and the Midgar Zolom = Jormungandr and/or Nidhoggr etc. etc. Can't say whether it's deeply considered or not as it's been years since I even watched someone play FF7 but them Japs love some mythology.

>>530931930
First off, sex
Second off, what the hell is this?

>>530931642
>be computer
>be offline and only within a network of computers within your small hometown
>internet comes back up
>your entire antivirus software is outdated by months
>virovirokuns just pour in
>queen gets hijacked
time to brick the chick.

>>530931482
I don't think the various Titanspawn are a strict evolutionary line. They'e all variants on a common theme, branching out in different directions.

Thoughts on this happening?

Liquid Negrocity performed by a giant line of Shadowguys as you walk past them
>>530931930
WHOOOOOOOOO??

>>530932021
But queen isn't connected to the internet anymore. She's in the closet now

>>530932089
If it happens it's going to be because Kris tossed us out because the Knight's plot no longer needs us and then Susie takes us in rather than us jumping of our own accord and leaving Kris to die

I genuinely hope Kris dies.

>>530932089
not out of nothing, susie will pick (YOU) up and will absorb you.
but on weird route its noelle, clearly.
>CONNECTION TERMINATED
you are giving me warframe flashbacks.

>>530932218
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>530930751
Reminded me of this absolute gem of Japanese dub
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TSywPv1Ulw

>>530932218
It feels like this thread keeps jumping between
>Kris is evil and must die
and
>Kris is a sweet little pumpkin who is very fragile and weak-willed and a crybaby so if anyone takes any action that doesn't have Kris as the primary beneficiary (UNMITIGATED EVIL) they will commit suicide

>>530932089
I’m sorry to interrupt you, Kris. if you still even remember that name.
>>530932275
rare actual English voice actor

>>530932218
>BLOATED CORPSE OF A FAILURE- That's right, she was a whore. And even a whore with no standards couldn't stand you, Krissy-boy.

>>530932395
The result of making your character 13 year old jaundiced Ada Wong

>>530932275
finally a protagonist i can relate to
HUH?
WHAT?
COME AGAIN?

>>530932395
You forgot the middle ground of "I will rape Kris" and the multiple variations within of that

>>530932395
>Kris is evil and must die
Susie fans (conflicted to not hate Kris completely)
Ralsei fans
Berdly fans
Catti fans
Jockington fans
Soul fans

>Kris is sweet
Dess fans
Asriel fans
Noelle fans
Kris fans

>>530932395
Kris is my boyfriend and I love him and I’m marrying him when he gets me my vessel awawawawa!

>>530932475
At least Ada actually loves Leon, and puts her neck on the line to save his life more times than she should. Kris is just an asshole that everyone else would be happier without.

>>530932564
>Kris is evil and must die
>Soul fans
no!!!

>>530932274
Quit whining. You can have hot funeral sex with Asriel when he comes back. At least then Kris will have been useful for once.

>>530932564
The first group is JUST Soul fans.

>>530932602
Shut up Jelly we don't love Kris here

>>530932089
The prophesy pretty much confirms this happening at some point (likely Chapter 6). At least Kris get what they want.

Imagine how much happier Kris would be if they maybe played board games with Toriel every once in a while and maybe visited Asgore sometimes and maybe got a job to become slightly more independent and help support the family and didn't just come home from school and immediately lock themselves in their room to cry "MUH DESS" over and over again for 9 hours straight

>>530932564
what about
>Kris is a fucking brat for the Ch4 shit he pulled and i WILL make them date Berdly for it

>>530933121
That’s why he deserves to die. He’d probably be happier that way.

>>530933093
who the fuck is jelly

>>530933217
>he doesn't know

The Knight should only wear clothes in the beach chapter

i'm a baa

>>530933315
baa-stard

>>530933250
did you faggots give me a name while i wasn’t looking or is this some /sus/ shit

>>530933315
cute

>>530933369
they refer to you as a gifted artist that drew some really good shit, but since it wasn't gay enough, he was banished to an /utg/ offshoot on trash called /sus/ (for susie shipping)

>>530933557
most mentally stable ISATfag

The dreams keep getting weirder. I thought I had beaten the mantle boss on the first try but that was just a dream. At least it made for an immersive experience.

>>530933602
is that the guy who made that ugly bitch veth

>>530933721
Did you at least learn something from your dream?

>>530933739
i don't know what that is.
i think xileth is pretty similar in terms of basedness.
but xileth also does some retarded gay shit.

>>530933830
weird vessel with a lisp from the /sus/ realm

>>530933602
>The Susie thread on /trash/ is called /sus/

Where's the button that lets me tell Kris "You already tried the heroic suicide thing once in another universe and it didn't work out"

>>530933874
a vethel?
wouldn't know.
never wanted to cross-contaminate /doe/ or /sus/.
i liked the idea of faggot-free /utg/s and left them to their own devices.
god bless them.

>>530933768
I'm about to find out, but probably not.

im gasturbating! im winging my ding! my dingle is in trouble!

>>530933315
a baaggot

>>530933721
You have dreams about beating a secret boss first try. I have dreams about being stalked, harassed, raped and murdered by Dess. We are not the same.

>>530933315
no, you're mercedes benz

when will we get our first chapter 5 previews?
i need them toby.

>>530934127
NTA but can I have your dreams?

>>530934148
We already go them in Ch4. The prophesy told us where we're going next.

>>530934148
We got plenty through the ARG and Newsletters already

>>530934148
a blue balloon.

>>530934148
Tenna Telethon, trust ze plan

where did the “Gaster’s trash beats” memes come from anyways

>>530934276
h.ogg is pretty weird.
the chair...
that one choking jumpscare sound.

>>530924060
A homeland for the monsters is delineated in a culturally significant place for monsters.
But the problem arises when the question of what to do with native human population comes up.
*cue the decades of ethno-political conflict*

The allegedly tiny dick anons didn't catbox their cocks last thread. Very sad

>>530933958
>implying
Kris is Frisk, not Chara. It's in the fucking name.

>>530934235
I can give you this.

>>530934454
people won't get it unless chara literally shows up coming back from college with asriel

>>530924060
Why would you care about a "realistic" outcome in a video game
literally just imagine the most hopeful scenario and decide that as being what happened in your own mind

>>530933557
Just play a "freedom of religion" defense

>>530934127
That sucks, but it'd be funny if it became a reoccurring nightmare like the one she probably had about the door. Funny after the fact, not when you're getting murdered.

>>530934595
The chara equivalent of this world is a lifeless grey simulacrum of a human sitting in a bunker, btw.

I like to have sex with Ralsei while Susie watches.
And with Susie while Kris watches.
And with Noelle while Kris watches.
And wish Toriel while Kris watches.

>>530934431
the fact that there are SEVERAL anons worth the descriptor "tiny dick" is kind of painful.
>>530934368
don't compare monsters to jews.
jews don't starve you and cackle about it just to play victim when you put them in fenced areas.

>>530934595
>Asriel comes back to college with the grown up vessel
>(We) jump ship onto him

>>530934687
Kris will ride me.

>>530934715
We must kill all the Mancountrystinians so the tragedy of the Barrier can never happen again

>>530931482
>>530932086
There's unused attack where those mouths spit out more Titan Spawn: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qy2X84j_Yc
Also those fish-looking enemies have segments consisting of those dark fluffy enemies that chase you through the 2nd sanctuary and climbing parts.

>>530934715
oh wait...
they did.

>>530934148
we didnt even get the next newsletter yet

>>530934127
That’s terrible, Kris. Why would you think of her like that. She’d be incredibly upset if she knew.

>>530934830
Heil Holiday.

what if deltarune was retro

>>530934890
I fear the newsletter was just for Chapter 3 & 4, which is a shame since it was fun to get that monthly bit of Tobias nonsense.

>>530934754

pumkin derry

https://youtu.be/JhoG0BB6HHI
are there more videos like this?

>>530932089
No here's how the festival goes.
Kris and Susie wander around the festival.
>oh shit Kris a haunted house let me quickly retcon my previous behavior in Noelle's basement as being a big scaredy cat in the light world
There's a yes/no prompt to going into the haunted house with Susie so players have the chance to explore first.
>oh wow Kris you sure are going fast through this maze actually where the fuck are you
>oh shit Jackenstein is at the end of the maze with a light in his mouth
>oh shit that's Kris' SOUL stuffed in there let me just pull it out and put it in my jacket pocket
Extended sequence of Susie running around the festival where the SOUL is treated like a lost puppy and after a few dialogue prompts with questions Susie starts to get the idea the SOUL can choose for her.
>(normal route) oh hey Noelle you snuck out of your family's house to hang out oh sure we can ride the ferris wheel to see if we can find Kris oh look the Flower King's door is open and that's clearly a dark world
>yeah okay whatever Noelle I have more important shit to deal with than your dead sister oh no the ferris wheel is stuck *climbs down leaving Noelle stranded, Berdley is there now somehow*
>let me just swooce right into this dark world oh no Kris is comatose and Ralsei is there let me ask what's up
"hello Susie it is me Ralsei the Deltarune let me explain how lightners that are missing their souls go Rudy-mode in dark worlds (going away for a battle or for a short cutscene is fine though)"
>don't worry I found Kris' SOUL trapped in the light world, clearly Kris was ambushed by the knight who stole the SOUL and threw Kris into the dark world, let me just pull it out of my sweaty dinosaur armpit and throw it back in
"that's great Susie says me Ralsei from the hit game Undertale 2, I remember you're the best"

>>530935285
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ8A63GHLvY

>>530935285
boy, let me tell you about NicoNicoDouga.

>>530932218
Only one ending.

i hate how half the fandom still looks at the rat fuck known as kris and goes "OH THE POOR WOOBIE WE'RE SO EVIL FOR CONTROLLING THEM"

My name is Kris Dreemurr and I love acting cold to all the people that care about me so they think I hate them and acting warm to the one person that I am going to betray while being the one person she trusts 100% it is my favorite hobby

i hate how half the fandom still looks at the troubled lad known as kris and goes "OH THE EVIL MASTERMIND WE'RE SO FUCKED FOR FALLING FOR HIS SCHEMES"

>>530932089
If this ends up happening, hopefully it's short, because Susie for sure will ignore most of our commands. It's less "we play as Susie now", and more "Susie have a shoulder Angel now that whispers to her puzzle solutions".

>>530920324
>doesn't know about the tunnels

>>530935427
>>530935678
>>530935657
i want to hold he… feed he moss… kiss he… tell he about day… *hand falls off*

>>530932218
Free piñata!

My name is Kris Dreemurr. I'm 17 years old. My house is in the north section of Hometown, where all the bungalows are, and I am not married. I'm a student at Hometown High School, and I get home every day by 8 PM at the latest. I don't smoke, but I occasionally drink. I'm in bed by 11 PM, and make sure I get eight hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm milk and doing about twenty minutes of stretches before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning. I was told there were no issues at my last check-up. I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life. I take care not to trouble myself with any enemies, like winning and losing, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with society, and I know that is what brings me happiness. Although, if I were to fight I wouldn't lose to anyone.

>>530920561
>The Queen is a Dess' laptop that got donated to the library.
This is incorrect:
>Heh, only kids like you two would take a laptop home just to play make believe.
They took the laptop home to play with it. This phrasing would be illogical if it was something that belonged to Dess/Noelle. It came from the library.

>>530935349
>(weird route) oh hey Noelle you snuck out of your family's house to hang out oh sure we can ride the ferris wheel to see if we can find Kris
>wow these dialogue prompts are pretty glooby and this guitar bg is kinda ominous
Extended playable flashback with Noelle and Kris exploring the forest behind the graveyard with Dess and Asriel also being there but in silhouette.
Things become increasingly disturbing as elements from the present day and dark worlds become introduced which players interpret as concrete evidence that all 4 characters went into a dark world as kids rather than the developer intent of showing Noelle's memories getting corrupted.
>wow Noelle you went really still for 23 and a half minutes, anyways the ferris wheel stopped and I just saw Kris near Flower King so I'm just gonna climb down and get back to the normal route

>>530935427
>>530935657
>>530935678
>acts like the average anon
>despised by the average anon
what did 4chan mean by this?

>>530935702
PULVERIZE THIS FUCK
WITH MY BERGENTRÜCK

>>530934715
Small dicks are great. Idk what you're on about

>>530935427
kris gender race and species is rat fuck

<3
Dreamt about him, but all I remember is that he was very angrily playing a slide whistle.

>>530935963
>weird route is suselleslop
someone laugh at this retard.

>>530936059
famous quote by mexican philosopher Nojuan Evera

>>530921246
The church's exit only exists so you can easily visit Mike, it doesn't carry a lot of weight lorewise.

>>530935958
You're the only one who thinks that. Pretty much everyone agrees that it came from Holiday house, they just disagree from which Holiday family member.

>>530932089
it will not happen in chapter 5, but it will eventually happen on the prophecy's railroad.
also, susie will be a very very poor vessel for us because she has been, from the very start of the game, extremely resistant to control and orders. she actively fights you for most of chapter 1, refuses to act as you wish, refuses to follow the rules of the game and forces her way (and twists ralsei's arm into) being able to act herself, refuses to accept the final piece of the prophecy, refuses to stick to her role and learns healing magic, actively overrules your ability to make choices when she feels like it, etc. when we do get put into susie, it will be a section on railroads that's basically half cutscene.
also, the time loop from the theory where at the start of chapter 1 we heard kris dies and susie was calling their name is going to be broken by susie's healing spell.

>>530936135
The fandom agreeing on something doesn't make it true by default.

>>530932089

BRING ME BACK TO MY CUSTOM MADE VESSEL YOU PURPLE WHORE.

>>530936059
anon, i speak from a place of ignorance because i wouldn't know if it is great ot have a small dick because not only do i have no frame of reference nor do i wish to have one, but apparently i am somewhat endowed.

>>530936135
why, tho?
tenna and king/jevil arent from holiday's house.

>>530936135
NTA, he's not the only one who thinks that, in fact I haven't heard anyone bring up your theory or treat it as fact. If Queen came from the Holiday house she would have turned to stone, at least in the weird route.

>>530936248
GIVE ME THE VESSEL SO I CAN LOVE THE BOY!!!!!

>>530936265
Obviously no guy wants to have a small dick. I, however, benefit when they do, so at least one of us is happy

i regret reading through that last thread, that shit was horrible

>>530936357

I don't care about Kris, I just want my vessel. IT IS MY OWN VESSEL, AFTERWARDS I AM LEAVING THIS HICK TOWN AND GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE.

>>530936131
I wonder if Toby will remove it when Chapter 5 releases since it would probably be redundant by then.

>>530936338
King is from Dreemurr house.

>>530936043
All 4chan anons were, or worse, are shitty teenagers
The Kris-criticals were shitty teenagers and so recognize them as one and are either sympathetic (the I will save Kris types) or cringe in horror (the I will kill Kris types)
The ones that love Kris unconditionally either are shitty teenagers (this is where a lot of the Twitter teenagers stand as well) or were shitty teenagers but never acknowledged their own shittiness

>>530921836
>How will toby give you bad consequences for doing sword route
He won't. You might get bad consequences for stabbing Kris/Susie with Motherfucker Unlimited, but there won't be any negative consequences just for playing the game. Kris, Susie, and Noelle have all canonically commited similar amounts of video game violence. Tobias is not hardcore anti-Goomba stomping, despite what memes may tell you.

>>530936101
Both routes tease 15 more hours of Suselleslop but Susie has bigger problems to deal with and so the players must only endure 20 paragraphs of awkward out of character dialogue as the ferris carriage reaches the top of the wheel where Noelle catches on that Susie has something hidden on her person, normal route she guesses it's the "mouse" from her house and on weird route she knows it's the SOUL.

>>530935923
I live in Hometown, at the house furthest north, at the edge of the town. My name is Kris Dreemurr. I'm 16 years old. I believe in taking care of myself, and a balanced diet of nothing but pie and a rigorous exercise routine. In the middle of the night, if my face is a little stiff, I'll practice my evil maniacal smiles while stabbing the floorboards in my room. I can do a thousand now. In the shower, I use an apple-scented shampoo, because that's what gets you dino pussy. Then, for bodywash, I use a gallon of non-scented dog shampoo as it's all I have. And as I leave the shower, I use a pizza scent mist anti-perspirant which I spray across my chest and under my arms. Then, as I eat an entire pie, I allow it to leave a cinnamon scent on my body, completing my natural gourmet taste. I always remove my soul before I do my routine, because I value my privacy. I finish by opening up another dark fountain in some random place in the town which may or may not be important. There is an idea of a Kris Dreemurr, some kind of abstraction, but there is no real me. Only an entity, something illusory. And though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our life styles are probably comparable, I simply am not there.

>>530936570
I care about him! he is cute!!!!

>>530936402
i pray for the small cocked, may they develope a long-lasting relationship with people that love them for their personality, not their dicks.

>>530936570
All action is in Hometown. You go somewhere else, there's zero happenings, and then suddenly one day everything is covered in darkness.

>>530936641
>accidentally swung at Kris
How fucked am I?

>>530936531
Why is that anon? Care to tell it to the mike?

>>530936641
>consequences for stabbing Susie with Motherfucker Unlimited
B-b-but I just wanted to be his wingman :(

>>530936789

Fuck that, I am sending my vessel to Boca.

>>530936692
susie will definetly not give a shit about noelle in ch5, because she is busy with ralsei.
ch5 will play similarly to ch2 where we get seperated and noelle will probably more than willingly join our company to "get stronger".

she will also no longer allow us to remove the ring and at some time the ferris wheel ride will happen be there and depending on your route she will ride with susie (normal/pacifist) or you (weird)

however, as we've previously established, this locks us out of the twisted route.

>>530936806
too much bait biting
also gays
lots of gays

Bad things about Kris
>scares the shit out of Noelle on purpose and has never ever complimented her
>people get genuinely confused when they do anything remotely good, like visiting the dying family friend who is basically like their uncle
>has a fucking bloodstain on the floor of their room and their own knife they carry everywhere
>sometimes jumps off the window and disappears for a while in the middle of the night
>slits the tires of their mother's car open
>works with the knight who summons world ending titans, kidnapped a police officer, tried to kidnap their mother and is actively trying to call forth the apocalypse
>kinda enjoys a good old genocide route where he hunts everyone down like animals

Good things about Kris
>plays piano (you can't be a bad person if you play piano right?)
>likes Susie and Ralsei :)

>>530937014
Are the gays really the issue? Or are the ones using them as cover to threadshit the true problem?

I like Kris and I was a shitty teenager (Berdly type) rather than a shitty teenager (Kris type)

>>530936641
>stabbing Kris... with Motherfucker Unlimited
Fuck off, all I wanted to do is pick up that controller as Mini-Kris. Not my fault that mini-Kris somehow can [Use] doors, but can't fucking use controller, instead he stabs. Also Kris was several meters away, not my fault that he pussied out from the slash that would have never reached him, anyway.

>>530936712
cute deer

>>530936587
No, I think he's still conceptualizing Deltarune as a full game that a theoretical player can play through a few times without spoilers or a guide and get most of the secrets, including the shadow crystals and eggs. The idea with Mike is to have the player load their endgame save looking for stuff to do, get the code by going back to hometown, and then can do the fight solo or with a full party on a new run so there isn't an awkward break where the player has to hold back on going to chapter 5 to do the Mike fight every time solo.

>>530937128
well obviously the latter's the real problem, but it's kinda hard to separate the two at this point

>>530937121
i still wuv him!

>>530932395
Extreme opinions = loudest voices, news at 11

>>530937203
I think it's just the influx of tourists trying too hard to fit in that are taking the bait. It'll simmer down in a few weeks. It's already been a whole month you know?

SAY ITS NOT TRUE
NO NO NO NO

>>530936991
Susie saying she's taking Noelle to the festival on the normal route needs to have a resolution, even if it's just "wow I sure talked out of my ass then."

>>530922685
The original heroes

>>530937121
>and has never ever complimented her
What should Noelle be complimented on?

>>530937436
"thanks for letting me steal all your pencils noelle" -evil kris

I love my SOULmate!

>>530937436
Her grades.

>>530937121
Calm down, Snowy.

>>530937519
That's what her parents are for.

>>530937121
>>people get genuinely confused when they do anything remotely good, like visiting the dying family friend who is basically like their uncle
To play Kris' advocate the Rudy visits make me cringe a bit. Intruding in a family's very private business is weird, let alone when it's about a family member dying. Little details like that you can keep fucking with the sink and get comments from Rudy makes it even worse, I imagine the only reason Kris doesn't physically spill spaghetti when you do that is that they can't under our control. I'll still do it every single chapter to get that sweet flavor dialogue.

DESS IS MY MISTRESS!

>>530937361
>It's already been a whole month

ran out of ideas, obsessed vessel is retiring.

>>530920275
That is not sex, anon, there are blood tissues there and needles in the back... fuck, even matches...

>>530937121
Kris also saved Berdly's life (he would have died from dehydration), and removed that rose thorn from Noelle (because... he knew Noelle would return to the dark world and it would return to being a ThornRing? Why Noelle didn't remove it herself?).
Not sure if he did that because his morality suddenly woke up, or he did that because he's a contrarian and want to do opposite of what soul does out of sheer spite.

>>530937598
Rudy (being the knight) obviously knows Kris is controlled by a metaphysical eldritch deity and that's why he's so patient

>>530928520
Chapter 4 is bishop. The real outlier is chapter 5. I guess you could see it as a second king, because of Flower King.

>>530920324
>Mystery #1
This is standard long-term plot mystery structure, you aren't going to get an answer early on. Simplest explanation is that Ralsei's object is stored underground in the well of Darkness and thus can travel up the fountains to each new Dark World, but this is just a theory without evidence and anything may happen.

>Mystery #2
Dark Worlds in a sense always exist, and the Darkners in them travel around to see each other. But they do so blindly, because they need the negative light of a Dark Fountain to operate fully. We cannot perceive this activity either, they just look like inanimate objects but they are talking, meeting, fighting, all sorts of things.

.... That was my theory anyway, but Ch 3 and 4 seem to suggest that Kris and frenz were throwing parties and games with the main objects that happen to be our lead Darkners anyway. So that could explain how they all know each other.

>Mystery #3
They're more compatible with the TV World than the Cyber World. Also Lancer does turn to stone eventually, and we don't see what happens to Rouxlsypoo.

>>530937761
oh, i thought he's patient because he's in a hospital

>>530937779
... or maybe it's just neat background art drawn by jackenstein because he's full of childlike whimsy and not anything related to the lore?

>>530921907
Asriel becoming a femboy in college... Do not ask how he earns money.

>>530937779
I'm going to call Pawn on Ch5, because of the symbolism of little seeds that can bloom into something beautiful and magnificent

>>530929019
Noelle says it "feels like" guitar strings, not that it IS guitar strings. They're very clearly vines, mirroring the ones that cover the shelter door.

>>530937646
You better stop making me say weird shit about my girlfriend.

>>530937758
>Why Noelle didn't remove it herself?
Lingering mind control probably. She's not truly herself unless you abort the route. Also whatever Kris is doing, they clearly see killing and mindraping their friends as worse.

>>530937413
sorry if that sounded like an absolute, its DEFINETLY route specific.
she might very likely ride with susie in the normal route, but the amount of foreshadowing in the weird route means we will DEFINTELY ride with her and the fact that this seems so important to noelle and kris means that something very pivotal must happen in either route.

what i know for certain that susie will leave our group in ch5 to hang out with ralsei to shake some sense into him. at least in my route, susie was clearly shaken how sad ralsei was and how he is real to her and how he wants him to feel loved that she will take him to the dark world version of the festival because she can't take him to it.

i mean its going to be a flora/foresty dark world with a carnival.
it'll be like scarlet forest and the fields of hopes and dreams again, but with a carnival.
oh and it'll burn eventually.

catti and jockington subplot will happen and they'll fight against you in some configuration.
i can see how normal route will feature you in a group with noelle and susie and catti being jealous of susie until she tells her off or beats her.

weird route ch5 will play out with you and noelle fighting against catti. (seperated from the rest like always)
the fight will culminate in another snowgrave incident.

>>530937779
I think this is right, because there's supposed to be both a black and white set of pieces per chessboard. So Asgore takes King, Toriel is queen, Kris probably is knight, Alvin is bishop, there's a rook (if castling comes up as a metaphor then it could be Carol), and the various other townspeople are pawns.

>>530937785
>mystery 3
It was never about "compatibility". Darkners function as long as they serve a purpose within a dark world. This is why Lancer didn't turn to stone until after Tenna was defeated. Saying they "don't belong" means they don't serve a purpose in that world, and thus become a statue.

god made the most huggable boy ever made him hate hugs and then gave us no body to hug him with

>>530920324
>How does Ralsei travel between Dark Worlds?
Still a mystery, but you can possibly guess his fountain is purer and thus lets you move near the other ones. More important question is, why is he the only darkner that doesn't turn to stone in other dark worlds and how does he know where Susie and Kris are at all times? In Chapter 4 he's not able to tell there's another different fountain behind the church's inner door, yet he does go back to save Susie and Kris even though he thought they were already going home for the night.
>How does Darkners personally know Darkners from other worlds (Queen and King, ie)?
They were all objects that were in close proximity in the past before the dark worlds were opened. Queen is Noelle's laptop, Tenna is the Dreemur's tv, King is the king card in a card set, etc. Kris and Noelle would play with all of them in the Dreemurr living room.
>How come Lancer and Rulzs didn't turn into stone in the TV world?
Lancer does turn to stone, when you find him in that minigame with a ton of Lancers, you can go out and return later and he'll have turned to stone. Rouxls just kinda gets out of the way before it happens to him I guess.

>>530937845
SANS!

>>530938028
We will snowgrave Jockington and Catti.

>>530938028
At this point I really doubt any other classmates will be in a dark world, Noelle and Berdley were exceptions because the former is relevant to the plot and the latter becomes part of Noelle's character arc.

>>530937121
>has never ever complimented her
we don't know that

>>530937598
>Intruding in a family's very private business is weird
I don't think visiting a close family friend at the hospital is too weird, plus Rudy seems to be really happy about it
It's out of character for Kris but Kris has their own Krissy mental problems

>>530938181
I defeated tenna and used the gatchapon and lancer wasn't stone there

>>530937995
>killing
Kris helped the Knight summon the Titan in Chaoter 4. Which basically guarantees that everyone in this world dies. So that's just hypocrisy.

>>530938260
"but what about Jockington's beard"
it'll be part of a festival night costume because Halloween

>>530938260
>>530938397
Your idea sounds lame as fuck. I want more edgelord art of Noelle posing with frozen Berdly, Catti and Jockington.

>>530938320
You didn't read the dialogue in the church, did you? Just be honest

>>530938072
Which purpose Serious Trashie and Ribbicks served?

>>530938359
Kris also knows they have the ability to save the game and retry a boss fight until they get it right.

>>530938581
She was clearly singing off-key, if you rewatch the choir cutscene a billion times you'll notice it.

>>530932395
Kris is evil but in a sexy way so I forgive them

>>530938317
>go through all that effort making your doe wife STRONGer just to pass her off to susie anyway
this is a real *hits pipe* moment

>>530938260
one thing i have to consider: the roster is brimming for ch5.

we have NEVER had more than 3 active party members. snowgrave singles noelle out of the group because otherwise the gig is up and it would probably end with a fight against susie herself.
and that is a bit too early into the game to do something like that to our beloved dino.

the chapter is called "the gardens of pink and gold" and it is said that an inferno of jealousy sets fire to the vast gardens.

first of all: very flowey-pilled, second of all we know of several characters that are deathly jealous.
asgore wants toriel back, catti has an argument with you and susie just before the last chapter, actively saying how you are now "enemy clans" with her because susie told catti off and that she'll spend time with noelle if noelle so damn pleases.

iunno, man i feel tension in the air with her and that might culminate very soon.
>>530938253
i don't want to, but i guess i have to.

>>530938359
Helping the Knight and not taking down the Knight are not necessarily the same thing. Kris might not have known the Knight would go that far.

>>530938620
Kris is risking the world despite having incomplete information. SOUL can just answer "No" to "Will you persist?" question and fuck off forever.

>>530938802
>Kris might not have known
*eyeroll*

>>530938779
Ok let me rephrase that before someone gets on my case.
Helping the Knight summon a titan* and not taking down the Knight are not necessarily the same thing.

Hello /utg/

Today I just received a flood alert in my country. I can't wait for things to get worse.

>>530938802
>SOUL can just answer "No" to "Will you persist?" question and fuck off forever.
They know we won't because they know we have determination

10th anniversary in september... and the 6th anniversary of deltarune halloween the month after.
Hmm. Now that I think about it, Deltarune releasing on halloween night probably wasn't a coincidence. With chapter 5 being the last chapter of the main story, it's probably intended to be experienced ON halloween night.

>>530936135
You argue like a faggot

Guys, you have to pick a lane.
Either Kris knows the full plot, in which case he already knew the Titan would be defeated and so it wasn't an evil move.
Or Kris doesn't know the full plot in which case they had no idea the Knight was actually going to summon a Titan, and while still bad it's not as bad as you're picturing it.

You can't just go "Kris only knows an arbitrarily limited amount that's convenient for me to picture them in the worst light possible".

>>530937964
That’s Asriel’s girlfriend.

>>530939197
It's the former lol. If the Knight and Kris aren't working together, then the Knight would be spamming the fuck out of fountains while you deal with the current Titan.

I think things will be more clear cut after Chapter 5 and a lot of the issues are because Toby lopped off the last third of this release for next year.

>>530938581
bro I didn't even play undertale I'm just here for the tenna porn

>>530936804
>>530936887
>>530937140
>Breath quickens around swords
Kris has PTMFD (post traumatic motherfucker disorder) now, it's over

>>530939180
Thanks

>>530939037
hi anon

try not to die

>>530939383
this. japanese deadline whipped his ass good

>>530939037
i live in the flattest fucking place in all of my country, i have never seen water unless i smacked my faucet or drove to it with no distance greater than 25km.
the greatest natural disaster here is strong winds that kills dead trees and blow the locks off sheep.

what the hell did you do to make god this angry?

>>530939059
The 11 years the missing man mentions might be a reference to Chapter 5 releasing 11 years after Undertale.

>>530927962
this reminds me of 2000s internet in the best way, you wonderful faggot.

I'm old!

>>530939538

my theory on the knights identity is

>>530939497
That's a really good theory. I still refuse to believe the games are connected in any way, but nice catch

>>530939465

>>530937904
>dude the curtains are blue because the author likes the color blue
You are free to have this opinion, but you should not inflict it on other people.

>>530932089
In this vein, I wonder if the prophecy we didn't see was Susie & You and Kris having to fight each other, akin to the Judge & The Player fight with The Batter in OFF. But also, I think Toby is probably planning something more interesting/unique than that. While he's a fan of OFF and definitely inspired by it, he seems like the kind of person who'd want to do something significantly different to keep setting DR apart from other games. It's probably too early to speculate.

>>530939538
>>530939705
We… really are awful at being angels, aren’t we?

https://nitter.net/DonnieTheGuy/status/1943439743418515962#m
oppa delta style

>>530925328
>...in the end... everything was frozen...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHBYRa9nNAE

>>530936097
>angrily playing a slide whistle
That's just amazing. You don't happen to remember if it was out of frustration or if it was an agitating act of aggresive auditory assault?
The former scenario reminded me of this clip. Just replace the guitar with a slide whistle
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m24DPDKZ4zA
I wish I had a pic of Papy with a slide whistle. Had to settle with an alternative

>>530939806
People should stop being hyperautistic overanalysts about every single detail if they don't want someone to tell them they're being hyperautistic overanalysts

>>530939497
11 days is a reference to the fact that the full Deltarune release is always 11 days away.

>>530939538
>>530939705
>>530938317
If the dog did not want us to do the evil routes he shouldn't write them as such kino.

>>530939383
I blame the Switch 2 and producer-san

>>530939705
Hey, Kris if didn't want to date the doe, someone had to.That someone is ME.

>>530925306
He has IBS
>THAT's [[Discomfort And Abdominal Pain]] IN MY [[Guts]]!!

>>530938072
That's exactly what compatibility means, anon.

>>530939932
That board is pretty clear-cut. It simultaneously acknowledged that ch1-2 bosses indeed were chest pieces, but also says that pattern won't hold, with Sword (Knight) and Flower (Asgore) pieces.
tl;dr: Chess theory is jossed

>>530940016
I refuse to acknowledge that he had the mental capability to write such kino with endless potential for more kino, and instead I pretend that it was a happy accident

Where did the game theory the main story is gonna end at chapter 5 come from?

>ralsei when he reads your knight identity theory on a 4chud thread

>>530940240
He's still an edgy teen deep down, he loves adding the genocide shit.

>>530940240
I get it’s kino but what do you mean endless potential for more kino?

>>530940247
Misreading Gerson's dialogue

>>530940201
There's a visible Knight piece on the board. The Flowe and the Sword are stand-ins for Pawns and Castles.

>Joss'd
You know where to find Plebbit

>>530940329
let me simplify
the knight is a baaad guy

>>530920324
>How come Lancer and Rulzs didn't turn into stone in the TV world?
Darkners only turn to stone when they don't 'belong' in a dark world. Dark Worlds are defined through the subconscious of their creator. Kris, who created the dark world, knows who Lancer and Rouxls are, and so they belong. Same with the Pippins, since they were Kris's belongings.

>>530940201
>sword (Knight)
>Flower (Asgore, king in Undertale and owner of a shop called Flower King)

>>530940198
No, it's not. It was never "compatibility" in the sense that certain darkners straight up aren't compatible with certain worlds. They can exist in any world so long as they serve a purpose. The creator of the world could even give them a purpose (see jevil and spamton) effectively making them immune to the effects of petrification.

>>530940247
I think at some point Toby expressed the idea of stopping at Chapter 5 to not make it take too long, but that idea is now completely shot, the final decision was to release the base game as 4 chapter and make the rest DLC.

>>530940423
kek

>>530940247
Mostly due to the lack of information we have on chapters 6 and 7, both in and out of game. Gerson saying everything ended after chapter 6 in his boss fight might be a fancy way of saying "and then the roaring happened" or that there isn't a conventional chapter 7.

>>530940247
ARG Weird route table (it shows which chapters have Weird Route, and which don't), Chapter 6 and 7 are missing.
Also Toby himself never ever directly mentioned chapter 6 and 7.

>>530940379
It could literally go anywhere and still make sense within what has been shown in the story. At least most of the fan comics I've seen about that route and potential futures just click naturally

>>530940563
>ARG Weird route table (it shows which chapters have Weird Route, and which don't), Chapter 6 and 7 are missing.
Where is this?

>>530940138
Toby had to take the Nintendo money.

>>530940247
I have a very distinct memory of reading a statement made by Toby Fox that chapter 6 and 7 would be more like add-on chapters instead of part of the main story. I can't recall where from though

>>530940329
I swear he knows something about them we don't. Probably not their identity, hell maybe they never met since the Knight doesn't know his name and he gets ignored in Knight-created dark worlds, but the lack of reaction to the bitter tear has to mean SOMETHING.

>>530940247
The original plan was for chapters 2-5 to be released as one big chunk and like >>530940398 said, people misread Gerson's dialogue and think the books end at 5 instead of 6. His description for 6 is much more vague, but we know it exists. It's likely that 6 and 7 will both be weird chapters in some way, which is why they were originally going to be released later than the rest of the game.

>>530940420
Knight is a Knight.
Sword is a BlackShard.
Saying that flower is "actually" a king is kinda absurd, not gonna lie. If it's a flower, it's a flower. There's no flower chess piece.

>>530940498
>make the rest DLC
The rest of the chapters are free updates
>>530940669
It came to you in a dream

>>530940247
what if identity of knight isnt even answered on normal route

>>530940398
>>530940420
That is not true. People have been saying the game would end at chapter 5 long before chapter 3 and 4 ever released. Gerson's dialogue only gave that idea more fire

>>530940814
>Gerson's dialogue only gave that idea more fire
Gerson's dialogue deconfirms it if you aren't illiterate.

I always saw Gerson's dialogue as in "chapters 1 and 5 are the prophesy, but anything after that will be in your hands (Susie)" so I did accept that there would be at least a chapter 6

>>530939538
>>530939705

>>530940798
*Free DLC.

>>530940814 (me)
Meant for >>530940692

>>530940669
i dont remember anything of the kind and i read all the newsletters like a severe autistmo

>>530940201
sword refers to the sword route, not a hint towards chapter 6
>Sword (Knight)
>When there is already a fucking Knight piece
you niggas are retarded

>ralsei when he realize that chapter 5 will be a free DLC (only needed to pay up once for access to all chapters)

>>530940942
I think this was before the deltarune newsletter. Might have been an interview done after chapter 1 released way back when? I would go scouring the web for it but I don't really care that much

>>530940954
Toby needs to stop doing this Scott Cawthon shit and tell a story like a normal person

>>530940954
Makes sense.

>>530940470
Context is you friend, anon-kun. Compatability with a Dark World = belonging with its thematic purpose. Only you are reading these as meaning totally different things.

>>530941086
The tragedy is that he is telling it like a normal person.

He's just taking five years between chapters, unlike a normal person.

Can I get some catti art? thanks

>>530919645
>"Kriiiiiis..." (you)r voice reverbrates into their mind from behind the locked door.
>Locked outside of Kris' room, (you) within your vessel stand in defiance.
>"Kris, c'mon... You know I can still see you."
>Kris' face flushes with embarrassment as they quickly hides their erection after having just gotten comfortable on their bed.
>(You) rattle the doorknob gently.
>"I just wanna help. I could even make a proper mouth, just for you."
>The loving tone in (you)r voice isn't lost on them as they cover their face with a pillow and groan into it in frustration, thrashing side to side.
>The idea is clearly tempting to them.
>Little by little, (you)'ve eroded their resistance. How much longer they can hold out is only a guessing game.
>"Leave me alone, damn it!" Kris screams into their pillow.
>The bulge in their pants that they tried to hide under the blanket tells a different story.
>(You) slink away without a word, content with your work for now.
>No longer hearing your voice or even feeling your presence at the door, they move over to it as silently as they can, then look under it.
>(You)'re gone.
>Kris cracks the door and peeks out into the hallway, assuring themself that (you) have left.
>They close and lock the door again, and gets back into bed with a sigh.
>Deep down, Kris knows (you)'re still watching.
>The idea of it doesn't disgust them as much as they want you to believe.
Sorry, just wanted the kris x soul sexual harassment smutfic to be a little more woke.

>>530941086
It's foreshadowing, Anon. Chapter 3 straight-up tells you what Dark Worlds are if you were too stupid to understand it in ch1-2. I bet other stuff also will be clearly explained in time.

>>530940814
Why did you respond to my chess post with this?

>>530940954
This is a good interpretation

>>530941227
sent

>>530940954
Ohhhh the five treasure room representing Shadow Crystals is an amazing catch. I've been stumped on what that room represented. Also worth noting that the sword route is the easiest path to reach the exit after you get the key.

>>530925398
>>530925794
>Angering Kris into getting corrected

>>530940954
YES

THE SCHIZOSHIT

>>530939848
It's that Kris kek not cooperating. We are doing a great job so far

you can only play the last chapter if you get it from a lootbox. you need to collect lootboxes across deltarune chapters with 0.5% change of dropping. you guys like my idea?

>>530941418
no

>>530941418
kino

>>530941219
he’s like “you can get the whole picture if you put the pieces together” and then hands you a box full of chewed up puzzle pieces that are all the same color, makes you look under the couch to find more of them, and when you’re done they all make one corner of the puzzle

>>530941493
the keys only cost 2.99$

>>530940942
>>530941072
>>530941219
I lied. I started digging around and found something funny
https://nochocolate.tumblr.com/post/179675835420/toby-fox-here-are-my-thoughts-on-ch-1-of/amp
>7 years
>we're already at year 6 of post-chapter 1

>>530941418
What are the other items you can get from the lootbox besides Chapter 5 access?

>>530941140
Except Lancer always petrifies, regardless of "compatibility". Once you are present when Dark Fountain is opened, you always "belong" to that Fountain. From then on, you can live only in the Castle Town.

>>530931930
Toby would do that

>>530941086
The story is in fact told completely normally and the foreshadowing embedded in background details is just a reward for superfans who like to pour over the details.

>>530941228
>retains the parts about kris having a cock
>still "they"
I'm going to write a continuation and start referring to both Kris AND the vessel as he just to spite you for this

>>530940470
Having a "purpose" won't be the real explanation behind petrification. Otherwise why did the Pippins have a purpose but the Zapper didn't? Their only difference and also to Ramb is whose property they belong to. A dice technically didn't have to fit in a TV world. The purpose explanation can mean anything and justify whatever situation without consistency. A lot of people in release day argued Lancer was better fit in the TV world because of his "purpose" before more meticulous gameplays noticed he also became petrified.

>>530941418
>0.5%
Too high, it will be 1/128 odds as an Earthbound reference

>>530939848

Angel? I was forced into this glorified container. I HAD MY OWN VESSEL, I SPENT 20 YEARS IN THAT CREATOR

>>530941649
if it was told normally it wouldn’t be piecemealed over a century

>>530941065
What's he going to do with the money he has then?

>>530939468
Thanks anon, although it's stopped a bit now, so I guess it's okay, no worries.

>>530939486
Exist.

>>530940954
So you fight a King, a Queen, a Knight, a Bishop-like titan, and then a flower. This is UT's sequel so I automatically think of Flowey. But Asriel is supposedly ok in this timeline so who else can be Flow- OHHHHHHH.

>>530941228
>they quickly hides
>not "they quickly hide"
You didn't even woke it properly, unbelievable

>>530941724
Zappers, being TV remotes, in general wouldn't be able to function with the TV show now turned off. The only ones that don't petrify are the ones who are still actively being bodyguards.
The pippins are a unique case in which NONE of them petrify because they exist to break the rules. As long as rules exist, so do they. This is reinforced by his dialogue that HE should have been the one to petrify and not the zapper because he doesn't belong either.

>>530941947
*smacks table*
I COMMAND YOU TO EXIST LONGER SO I CAN TORMENT YOU FOR LONGER.