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>Scenario: The opponent goes first and has Wilbert's crest. they summon Aether on their turn 7, summoning 1 Fox of Purity, 1 holy shieldmaiden, And 1 dingdong
>Thanks to The crest and Aether's SE effect, their board gets +1/+2 and +0/+02, resulting in:
>Aether 6/9 (ward, she got SE stat bonus but she isn't affected by her own +0/+02 and aura buff), Fox (2/7, ward) Holy shield (3/5, ward, barrier, aura), Dingdong (1/6, ward, aura)
What is the other factions response? Luckily you saved your coin and got 7PP (8 if you saved your coin) to react to this

I'm more interested in upcoming gold cards.

you fucking nyaggers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0edMuMyLbA
rose queen bro, there's some hope

Clenching my cheeks for the entire run.

>>530946115 (OP)
who?

>Draw Roach
>Win
>Don't draw Roach
>Lose
That new draw card better be as good as you cunts hype it up to be

>>530946191
*pops cum chalice*

My oshi is fucking retarded...

>We alredy know 16/77 cards whats your opinion so far?
Cards - https://shadowverse.gg/set-2-expansion-card-list-spoilers-and-details/

>>530946230
Is she still 9pp?

>>530946191
Neutral 5pp Themis soon hopefully

>>530946417
I AM 0-4
WHY AM I AGAINST A MASTER DIAMOND

>>530946225
When are we getting Carl back into Shadoba? We need to increase the kot shitposting

>>530946191
>Board locked with only 15 damage
lol
I pass my turn then kill him with Satan

>>530946191
medusa or titania to get ez 4 chip damage.
for the titania play, pray that the ward haven player doesn't drop jeanne next turn

ONLY 1 ROUND AND I ALREADY WANT TO DROP OUT OF THIS TOURNAMENT

Since when did Ginsetsu and Yuzuki become a yuri couple

I just want condemned forest back

>>530946519
open your ass sword

>play match
>go hide behind Eudie and tab out

It feels weird reading some cards in English

HOLY SHIT MY GIRL CYNTHIA IS BACK??? IS TEMPO SAVED??
I mean probably not looking at the trash that is lymaga but i guess the deck will be cheap
also cynthia... doesnt seem that good. why only buff pixie followers? should we really be punished for managing to get something else to stick? couldnt it have just buffed everything like zirconia?
its almost always a worse evo target than glade (or lily), and just the fanfare is ok going first if your board gets removed (really bad if it didnt) but really weak going second
what i dont like about guidance is that historically playing even a single 2 cost card instead of a 1 cost made it a lot harder to activate combos in forest, but it might be ok since lily is stronger than anything we had in the past
also aether means its actually over for roach

Who would play control Forest when Ward Heaven is billion times oppressive?

So raramia now summons shit with aura huh

>>530946541
worlds beyond makes animals gay

>>530946345
SWORD FUCKERS STOLE HIM AGAIN

So I just started playing and what do I do now?
I finished the story, did most all the solo mode stuff and feel like there is nothing to do because I lack the cards for variety.
Too used to having everything in old shadowverse.
Do I just play 2-5 games a day for my missions and thats it?
They added an entire 3D world sim thing and it's empty. There is nothing to do?

Am I in for another game of Chest event - GP - Chest event - GP cycle?
I kinda hoped for a bit more stuff to do before I reach this point. Had planned to play the whole day too.
Story wasn't too bad, I still hate how generic looking they made 13. Also lmao learn to pronounce German words if you are going to use them.

>>530946191
william, response?

>>530946837
>Play followers
>Lose the game
The most HIV positive man in shadoba history

>>530946191
I play rune so William with at least x9 spellboost, if i didn't get it then Kuon SE and remove as much threat as possible and eat the rest, since they all have wards, Aether is targetable

>Start back on Grand Prix, 1 loss already
>Opponent is Sword
>I'm going second
Wallahi I am finished

>>530946345
I'm probably quitting. The lack of nerfs for blatantly broken cards was disappointing.

>>530946793
Nice pit

>>530946793
is that liza? why does she look like that?
also yeah i think the long term consequences of a card like william means unbreakable boards (for anyone else) might become a thing...
i just realized wilbert's cavaliers will be 2/4's not just 1/2's, so thats gonna suck too... 14 defense of ward on a 6 drop, ouch

>>530947072
Just A&G them at 4(+1) and destroy them

>>530946345
it's so fucking over/10

>>530946551
I want the deck that has the ambush furry that bounces the entire board back
made so many shadowbabs concede on sight with that one

>>530946862
>Am I in for another game of Chest event - GP - Chest event - GP cycle?
yes. if you don't want to sweat, just treat them as side event that give you more freebies while playing for free (whatever the result is)

>>530947127
Not Liza. YGO girl.

>>530946837
>STOLE HIM AGAIN
He's literally alberts buttbuddy he never should have been a blood card

>Finally reach diamond
>Proceed to brick my way all the way down to emerald over the next four days
This game is suffering. Maybe I should switch to a brain dead craft, at least those are consistent.

For pure puppet deck, what I really need from new expansion?

>>530947389
ah, wasnt my favorite ritual beast girl. especially after she grew up and gained tits

>>530947484
Odin so you can actually hit face instead of waiting for Orchis and Liam.

>>530947174
Lol lmao

>>530947417
You're probably tilting hard. Take some time to review your games.

>>530947417
you dont go from diamond to emerald because of your deck

>>530946191
You better take out as many as possible, Otherwise, Jeanne drops next turn and gives the board +2/+4

>>530947484
Way to deal damage that isn't evolution point dependent.

I miss my beautiful wife...

>>530947617
Skill issue. Should've played around every broken lategame sword card.

>found Master Diamond Puppet Portal streamer
>tune in and catch the final two turns of his puppet match
>he loses versus sword, immediately opens the deck list and swaps to artifact
>thought it was weird as he just started stream and played like 1 match of puppet
>check his other vods
>it's all artifact puppet/rune
It was all an illusion, the puppet match was likely a request from a viewer.
bros...

>>530946345
>dragonsign at 3 clear their shit at 4 lyre bitch evo at 5
>reduce cocytus cost down to 8 at 6 play him turn 7
>lose the game at 8 to roach because you did nothing for the entire match
rampbros will inherit the meta

>>530947716
Stop posting that gold is garbage

>>530947724
More like he shouldn't have dropped a Sniper I couldn't get off the table or I should've played a Ghost earlier or something because he only had 1 HP

>>530947716
>evo do nothing

>>530947774
theres no high level puppet players because theres no high level puppet plays
you gen puppets to clear board and save 3 evos
then you drop orchis into orchis into liam and pray they cant answer it
thats the entire deck

>>530947484
I wonder what you need for that deck in general. Any legos aside from 3 Orchis?
Unfortunately I have pulled no Orchis' so far, but I'm heavily considering just making the deck with the vials I can muster from early gibs if it can carry me through the next expansion.
I have the Orchis leader at least.

>>530948109
i mean better face damage should be a start, unless you draw 2 orchis you lose the game because you never hit face

>>530947985
"do nothing" posters are starting to become the most annoying shit in this general

I'M GONNA CHOKE I'M GONNA CHOKE I'M GONNA CHOKE I'M GONNA CHOKE

>>530947716
Orchis already give bane and storm on play. SEVO just give you 2 enhanced puppet.

>>530948349
sorry that your favorite card is a do nothing card

>>530947831
coc probably doesnt do enough anyway
no scorpion of greed in the deck to heal you while storming face
if you draw silent rider and already had forte in hand that would do it though

>>530946191
I am not sure if we run Dingdong here when we have the Luxbow if someone were to, let's say, Medusa you. You just than them for giving you +3/3 in stats then Evo for Barrier.

>>530947985
you evolve her on 7 then play the 5pp spell

>>530948601
wow 7pp alouette

>>530948323
There is non zero chance they will add Zwei and her Victoria as puppet equivalent of 10 pp Kuon.

>>530948394
Not like this...

Let's be honest. Her design will never be topped.

>>530948719
yea, you don't always draw alouette

>>530947686
You do it if you only draw your top end and get pressured out in the early game while having to trade to survive. No amount of skill will fix an unlucky mulligan.

Filene is a foot whore

>>530948528
I can't believe they gave Dis's Damnation to Sword...
Demon of Purgatory wasn't even in the Apocalypse deck, he was in the Cocytus one...

>>530948763
good thing you got your 2 card combo out on t7
just in time to get raped by olivia

>>530945936
We accept we're a tier 3 deck and only playing it because Orchis and Eudie are cute.

i hope haven control really become good next set. I dont want to see same 10 niggers play aggroo

>>530948721
Wish they did more to improve puppets too. Like have a variety of them not just the 0 cost and 1 cost.
Kinda like what they did with artifacts.
Combine two into some amalgamation puppet idk.

>>530946862
You grind battle pass and play tournaments.

>>530948994
>baits sevo
I'm sold

>>530948994
that's fine
playing olivia means they're stalling and not actively winning

>>530948994
Do you even play this game?

>>530948394
I got destroyed...

Love Dreizehn, simple as.

Okay, now will you stop getting mad at Kuon?

>aether give aure
this kills da roach

watch them release a a forest card that removes all wards
>if attacked by fairy, remove ward

>>530946862
Go to ranked and try to have the best winrate possible like everyone else I guess
The current meta Forest deck is very fun and can run with no legendaries, 2 olivias are supposed optimal, try to learn that!
If you didn't claim 2000 rubies invite reward im shilling my code also W4msXGV

>>530949142
KEK

>>530949114
>>530949117
>>530949134
screenshot this post
if a single artifact pro does this play i will buy each of you filene

Rune bros stop invading hsr

worth it

>>530949337
we're still gonna die to the stats because aether is a 7
it takes 2+ combo payoffs just to remove 2illiam

>>530949245
Only one way I'd ever forgive Kuon

>>530949047
That sounds lame, I don't want puppets to be artifacts. Just give us some 4/5 drops that do puppet things.

>>530949337
no, they'll print a low cost neutral that gives followers ignore ward

>>530949475
WHY IS SHE SO SMUG

>>530949142
>Ernesta
brudah...

>>530949047
Puppets have always been boring as fuck.

>>530949040
>I dont want to see same 10 niggers play aggroo
Stop throwing around random terms you don't even understand.

My amelia mage board got divine thunder'd by a rune
Wtf

>>530946541
>two people interact
>clearly it must be carnal desire
I hate the sexual revolution.

>>530949245
>>530949541
That's a man

>>530949678
the lishenna with reanimate was cool since it could bring back cassim

>He run out of time

>>530949802
Yeah...

>>530949406
you won't but I will keep pestering (You) about it when it happens

>>530949776
Who are you quoting?

>>530949802
What do you mean?

I wanna reach master before 17th so I don't have to deal with the new meta but I'm on AA1....

>>530949805
Neither of those are puppets anon.

>>530949884
A degenerate hedonist.

bros... Haven looks too damn strong in the upcoming set. I'm starting to think they are about to make the game miserable

>>530949337
a card that lowers your follower atk to 0 to deal its dmg to the face

>>530949776
>play borderline porn game
>wonder why players are horny

>>530949928
you meat grinded them as god intended

>Start playing sword
>Win 2/3rds of my games
Wtf... I think I'll just play sword for the rest of the patch, and especially the Grand Prix. Any Swordsissies have general matchup tips? I think I have the Haven/Forest MUs down since I play those, and face dragon feels free so far, but I'm not really sure about the rest.

>>530949945
I hope you are ready for 20 minute matches of bashing aura wards against each other.

>>530950008
We can push the edge a LOT further than what we have bro.

>>530949945
Everyone will get more board clears and it will be just more of the same while haven suffers because nothing amulet related was added.

>>530949629
Her blood was paid in advance. Whatever happens it's not her problem.

>>530949945
You could always join us.

>>530950061
nah whoever plays jannu first just instantly wins

>>530946115 (OP)
It's not 5 wins but I will take it. Thanks to Ruby for fixing my hand

>>530949945
It's fine, Haven ward doesn't have a good wincon (yet)
Their card sure is futureproof thought. they're really good at stalling so they just need their big 10PP card

>>530949945
And thats a good thing, board control game is more fun than just mindless hit face win

>>530949047
>>530949585
That's just old Orchis with Marionette//Uno, Marionette//Due, Marionette//Tre.
Old Orchis basically had attack mode and defense mode
https://x.com/shadowversegame/status/977077518506209280
https://x.com/shadowversegame/status/977077770688782337

>>530949245
>boy showing his feet like that
the absolute disgrace...

>>530948756
hmmmmmm nyo

>>530948756
>I am forgotten

>>530950171
>nah whoever plays jannu first just instantly wins
themis

>>530950130
What do bird cocks look like?

How much does a Gold cost in Rupies? 4-1 here

>>530950227
Yeah but I want the update for the entire mechanic not just 1 lego.

>>530949245
His ass will be loose

>>530950171
Ah yes because opponents do nothing the whole game.

>>530950303
Like what ducks have but less scary.

Does pity carry over into the next set?

>>530949861
>tfw no yuuka wife
no my TI-84 isnt the same

>>530950540
>Does pity carry over into the next set?

>>530950540
nope

>>530950540

>>530950226
you'd think that but control can also be quite mindless too
t. played all crafts in SV1

>>530946541
always has been. yuri is too strong

>>530950540
with cygames? not a chance.

>>530950421
no because the ward board will never overwhelm the ward board in the mirror, or be able to finish the game
so the onesided boardwipe will obviously matter

I TOLD YOU THAT 3 DROP WAS BROKEN

>>530950657
why DO people think slow deck = BIG BRAIN anyways?

>>530950754
...it's just Dragon's Zell but 3/2 instead of 2/3

>>530949432
>no general wants the runeniggers with them

>>530950754
Kill yourself

>>530950226
>only needing to clear the board is somehow more interesting than managing the board, hitting face, applying pressure, and making sure you dont die

>>530950754
literally who?

>>530950130
It honestly looks like a playstyle I'd enjoy, but I don't have even 1 Jeanne...

>>530950805
The only people who ever say that are the ones who play slow decks. No one actually believes it.

>>530950029
Rune is going to skullfuck you. Other than that you have Good Value so you are favoured Vs everything but Artefact.

>>530950130
you just know
even with blowjob mask

>drops AG and blaze destroyer in your path t5
what do?

>>530950805
How could more decisions per game allow the better player to win more often??????????? The shadowbabs of this general will have to put their collective IQ together to solve this one.

>>530950853
she can give herself storm

>don't draw apollo against sword
>automatically lose
nice game

>>530950029
What version of Sword are you playing?

>>530950853
she can make dingdong with bane

>>530951115
Literally just play Alouette bro. Its easy.

>>530951037
there are no decisions when your only goal is to not die
you never have to consider damage to face or tempo

card idea
>doll lover
>4pp 4/2
>last words: gain crest: doll lover
>crest: doll lover
>countdown 1
>last words: summon an enhanced puppet
the lore is he loves his doll so much he turns into her when he dies, kinda like https://exhentai.org/s/7726ad98a5/3075555-139

Lamp dragon is tier 0 next set. Just you wait.

>>530951115
>don’t draw Apollo
>they’re going second
It’s hopeless

>>530950805
More decisions per game + in a longer game, card draw RNG is less impactful as both players see more cards, so there is more potential for skill expression.

>>530951037
>better player
heh, the game starts before the first turn nerd.
sorry you just want to match numbers rather than gauge risk reward

>>530951238
What deck are you talking about? Haven doesn't play like that

>>530951256
nice flavor but this is irredeemably garbage

>>530951115
Bro... Your Gravy? Your Salefa? Your lesbos?

>>530950657
>>530950805
I didnt say it required a big brain to play a control deck, it just more fun than a mindless hit face

>>530951332
Aggro allows for skill expression too dingus.
If anything each turn holds more weight and mulligan choices are key based on matchups.
Control can be very mindless if it can answer everything.

>>530951369
i think he is talking about rune

>>530951369
you sure?
historically every control/combo deck plays that way
its why roach is only balanced by having weak early removal, situational boardclear and no healing

>>530950540
It's not how it works. Every expansion has its own count

>>530951483
That's like, you're preference bro.
Maybe stop being wedded to a narrow sliver of the wide world hmmmmmmmmm?
Expand that big ol' noggin of yours.

>>530951426
Would be good if Orchis were changed to give it storm

Weakest, most honest craft in the game btw

>>530951525
>roach
>weak early removal
frog.png

Card idea
3pp
Neutral spell.
Negate all ward effects this turn. This costs 1pp less for every ward on field.

>>530951525
fairies have rush now, they're basically fucking puppets lmao

A jap streamer just went 5-0 in GP with this
He even stalled a rune player until they decked out

Be a good person

>>530951504
Some, sure, but I'm talking in relative terms. The longer a game lasts, inherently the less impact RNG has.

>>530951596
If i want a duel, i want it to be long enough to use most cards. The current meta is so fast because most decks wincon only revolved around same 3 cards, and thats not fun

>>530951481
Aragavy can't even fully clear evolved Zirconia, and it only gets worse if they shit on the board before.

>>530951640
Correct, but that doesn't make it bad.

>>530951640
Would have gone 4-0 myself but had a terrible misplay. (was playing Kag Sword)
Though I would have face Portal in final round so maybe it would still be 3-1
Good job.

>>530951725
dragon hands typed this post

>>530950946
Rune seems okay so far. They just need to miss one AG drop I feel, but it definitely feels uphill if they AG AG AG Kuon Kuon

>>530951124
Not super familiar with all the variants. This is my list. I'll probably craft the last Amelia and 1~2 Alberts

>>530951525
>historically every control/combo deck plays that way
?????

I brought abyss to the weekend tournament. I regret my decision.

Imagine portal getting cost 7 fanfare heal 2, add 2 artifact pieces, then drop and evolve 1 cost 3 or less unit from hand

>>530951750
KON
KAI
WA

>>530951737
except they actually cost pp to generate and play

>>530951302
>killing your shadow brother, Face Dragon
No... You had to save him...

>>530951750
looks basically like a week1 control abyss shitpile.
it's fucking unplayable into rune and roach.

>>530951525
>1 cost deal 3 that is played on top of 2 1/1 rushes is weak when every early follower is 3 hp or less
>its also a draw one with godwood
>5 cost draw 2 deal 9 through aura and ambush leave a 5/5 is also weak
forestniggers need to hang

>>530951772
This, aggroo meta makes most cards borderline useless because you need a specific card to solve it. This is just yugioh but longer.

>>530951761
Does it though?
RNG still place a certain side with the ability to initiate their win con first.
Puppete is control and mirror often devolve into who can find their multiple copies of Orchis first

>>530951750
>He even stalled a rune player until they decked out
you mean the rune bricked

>>530951750
>decked out rune
can you make your fan fiction believable

>>530951772
See this is a better argument.
If aggro is too strong than late PP cards become meaningless.
It's simply also true that if control is too strong than you get a different sort of miserable meta.

>>530951646
>glade requires you have high cards and evo
fairies are 1 1 shitters that cost 1pp
>lily needs 2 fairies at turn 4 to reduce a high hp follower to 1

>>530948061
But surely there's a dedicated autist for this craft too!

>>530952031
Nta, but that abyss deck just makes me decked out my roach deck just now kek

>>530951750
Can you refrain from posting here if you don't play the game yourself? If true that only means he beat a new player who doesn't know how to pilot rune's deck.

>>530950805
because fast deck (face decks) are completely mindless so is natural for people to think that the opposite (slow decks) are big brain.
which is not completely false slower decks do require more decision making, but is not a rule you can have mindless slow decks.
at the end the only universal truth is that face burn decks are for 2 digit iq players

>>530951750
>no mummy
>no rage
>3x reaper's bricks
>3x soul bricks
2/10 bait see me after class

>>530951989
>RNG still place a certain side with the ability to initiate their win con first
If you play a deck with a win con in the first place. My favourite matchup in SV1 was no-wincon CBlood mirror. It was a very strategic matchup where you had to plan many turns ahead because drawing even a single card more than you need could result in you decking out, but drawing too few cards could result in the enemy simply killing you as you run out of removal. Every decision, even drawing a single card, had to be deeply weighted in that matchup.

>>530951953
yeah dude lemme just play a 2pp 1/1 on 2 then an amulet on 3 so i can play the equivaent of a removal spell and 2 puppets on 4
if i draw fairy circle and play fairies on 2 then i have to draw another generator to trigger may?

Shadowverse players look like this?

>>530951750
if he streamed, surely you can pull up their stream link or video?

>>530951750
>yuna so he can get a bat in his hand he'll never play or else brick cerberus

>>530951525
>forest
>bad early removal
Do we play the same game?
Forest can struggle against big boards in the late game but it doesn't struggle at all with early removal get real

>>530952212
Sounds like Chess would be up your alley bro.
You clearly dislike asymmetry.

>>530952261
that one does

>>530952106
Yea, its definitely has its own shitty part if control deck become t0, but at least you can utilize your whole deck which what makes card games fun. I just cant enjoy aggroo games in general

>>530951525
>weak early removal
>may, bug alert, lily, twinkle+rush fairies, glade

>>530952031
maybe rune milled satan

>>530952305
The bat is very useful against aggro decks, and in other matchups you can hold it in hand until you run out of sevos.

>>530952304
Sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GloycwOVYUk
The rune game starts at 1:07:00

>>530952261
Lymaga balls

>>530952479
kek

>>530951426
was struggling to give it stats, comparing it to fighter. i guess it needs 4/3 to put it out of 2/2/2 range

>>530952442
>A2
Everything makes sense now

>>530952360
I like when games have strategic depth and good decision making matters much more than RNG.

Rune player destroyed by his own IQ. Maybe sword is more his speed.

>>530952364
Aggro mirrors are tense and can be quite cerebral in their own way.
Again I have no general play-style preference, so that's why i find it irksome when any side starts felating themselves as innately superior.
A healthy meta is a living meta.

>>530946519
>swordcuck
What's the problem you absolute nigger?

>>530952579
And yet you play card games.
Clearly that RNG is needed because a purely deterministic game is a guess a bit beyond your tastes.

Dragon bros....

>>530952632
Uhhh where's the mistake?

God I love Dirt Rune.

>>530952697
he sees da portal.

>>530952816
He lost. That's the mistake.

>>530952391
>conditional
>2pp deal 2 no upside (and conditional)
>turn 4 conditional
>turn 4 conditional
>turn 5
>everything uses up fairies and is such a 2 card combo that *does not* fuel itself or set you up for the next one

>>530946519
>swordfag has an audacity say this

>>530952632
He's an idiot for not drawing better ig

>>530952769
I like turn based games in general because they let me stop and think, but the competitive turn based game genre is barely alive outside of card games, so I often end up playing card games.

>>530952830
>Spellboost leader
>Spellboost card in hand
>Two spellboost cards on the field

>>530952632
>>530952890
>same cards in deck as the sword player
he hard bricked, insane it took you that long

>>530946519
danchou, kick this loser from the guild

>>530952939
Uh huh.
Admit it, you just like the flavor RNG adds because having everything be predictable is too stale.

>>530953047
how could you say this...
I thought we were comrades...

>>530952990
Your point?

Will dragon be fun to play next set
Right now it's not my kind of deck at all but I want to like it for Filene

>>530953245
A small amount of RNG can be fine, but I really hate games where I get to see maybe 20% of my deck, and it's not the 20% I want. That's why deck out is my favourite win condition - I get to see and use basically my entire deck while slowly decking out the enemy.

>>530953427
Your love is weak!

Here's a list of cancerous ccg metas and why they are bad

1. OTK/combo meta
if you've ever heard of the term "playing solitaire" this is what it refers to
this is the current hearthstone meta
every ccg will have this at one point, because devs are retarded and will keep making new cards that synergize
and with so much synergy they will unwittingly create combos so powerful that every craft will have an OTK deck
this is not interesting to play or watch, because it comes down to draw rng
currently we only have one otk deck (2 if you count rune), which is fine

2. Aggro meta
this is the current shadowverse meta
usually happens when a new game or set is released
it's usually very cheap to run decks in this meta
it's interesting to watch, but not interesting to play
it devalues all defensive oriented cards like wards or healing, as exemplified by shadowverse pros removing ceres from their abyss decks
it's a low skill meta where your objective is to pump out as many suicide bombers to try to rush down the enemy hp before they can respond (prevalence of storm in current meta)

3. Stall meta
this is where shadowverse is headed towards
it's the opposite of aggro meta
it's not interesting to watch, or play
both players skip turns 1-5 then vomit a board of unkillable creatures
then they stall until one or the other runs out of cards
please do not let this be the meta for 1.5 months thanks

>He drew 3 Orchis, meanwhile I don't get a single Jeanne
Fuck this tournament. I would rather have nobody getting anything than Puppet retards winning for free

>>530953447
Well you do you, people can prefer faster decks because they get to interesting decisions quicker and then end.
I hope you can at least see that point.

>>530953527
It can't get much stronger if I still want to win. I am considering dropping William though. With how strong dirt's early game is, I don't usually have a clusterfuck to clear T6.

>>530953636
>aggro
>current shadowverse meta
you mean shadowverse 1 right?

uhm

>>530953447
>20%
you typically see around 50% of your deck even in the faster games unless you are running singletons

>>530954069
>Loses

>>530953036
>h-h-he's le brick!
every time

>>530954089
dupes

>>530954069
little timmy is gonna fucking learn today

>>530954069
Esmerald god dont beat me

>>530953739
As if fast decks ever have to make decisions in these games.

>>530954147
I don't consider that as seeing new parts of the deck

>>530954148
LET'S GO JUSTIN

Why couldn't the main lobby have this aesthetic. It's way comfier than the gay futuristic look.

>>530954069
Destroy him.

>>530954278
Lobby is kiddietrash for underages and they love gay futuristic shit.

>>530954278
Unironically they probably chose the simplest, most bland look so it would render on the most amount of phones

I conceded a game I could have won!

>>530954220
When do we get to this point?

>>530954278
I'm genuinely hoping that the floating islands are gonna be places we can travel to. The lobby looks like dogshit.

>Haven's Aether kills roach
>Sword's Yurius kills roach
>Dragon's Filene kills roach
>Abyss' Ginsetsu (quad ward) kills roach
Surely our Rune and Portal bros won't also have their own counters right...

What do we do Forestbros

>>530954405
You Are Great!

>>530947831
CoC will never be playable without refunding his full pp cost like rune does.

>>530954250
thats the point, you brick on dupes

why the fuck can you not watch replays in tournament lobbies there is literally nothing else to do it is the most appropriate possible time to do so

>>530951525
forest has no problem with early removal, is wide boards mid-late that has big problems with.

>>530954449
Don't forget
>Neutral Odin banishes godwood staff
Even neutralcraft hates roachniggers

>>530954440
floating islands look like shit too. It would be cool to be there, but the look worse because game cant decide if it wants to be cute or cool.

>>530954490
FUCK YOU

Now that Haven is already confirmed to be T0 deck next season, what will you guys be maining?

I swear to god ぱらちゃん is the luckiest fucker on the planet and that's the only reason people think Rune is good

>>530954737
whatever kills haven
i HATE haven

This is fucking trash

>>530954089
I meant I get to see like 8 out of 40 cards in a fast can't.

>>530946191
orchis trade

>>530954840
You are fucking stupid

>>530954278
it's eudie's taste in aesthetics...
she worked hard for that lobby design...

>>530954840
Wrongest man who has ever lived.

>play aggro sword
>lose 3 coin tosses in a row
>know I lost by turn 3 or 4 because portal has 2 puppeteers and perfect curve and the mirror used zirconia on 4.
>win 4th game
>promoted to diamond
????
This is the complete opposite of what happens to me usually. Usually I demote to sapphire despite win streaking after 2 losses.

>>530954840
She's a meme that will make it into funny shadowverse compilations, but won't ever actually be good.
If the storm was a necromancy 12 on fanfare, I'd run 3x of her in every deck.

>>530947831
Go 2nd and you can ramp at 3, reduce satan cost at 5, and coin + satan at 6

>>530946191
william
the meta is literally just gonna be haven shitting on everything while rune has a free matchup against it

>3 safela
>3 wilbert
>3 aether
>3 jeanne
>2 odin

>>530954840
It's good bro trust me bro they'll release satan's servant as a 5pp neutral bro

>>530954840
She is. The only decent play is pic related + her on T10, which is way too slow for and aggro.

Not currently enjoying the state of the game where every deck is just braindead high roll early game to get a few damage in and then you just win the game off of chump storm + evo damage without anything your opponent can really do about it if they don't have their turn 2 plays

>>530955152
>aggro and forest shitting on rune
>devs mad their pet class is losing so they buff anti aggro and kill forest specifically without harming combo in general to ensure rune is at the top
The absolute state of favoritism in this kusoge. We're gonna be playing against DClimb til EoS or rotation 2 years from now.

>>530954840
>Super evo + needs a target on the field
Yep this is dogshit, even the fanfare sucks.
For a super evo cost she should at least target the hand.

>there are STILL no payoffs to KYS
Defend this, shadowbabs.

Any ebin players looking for a club
884890783729

>>530954440
I just wish they bring back the mahjong table.......

>>530955497
No I will not join futanari club and let my peers see that

>Alternate Ochis style and leader
>Full art Eudie
Why do these niggers even enter the lobby tournament? Just to keep down the f2poors?

>>530955393
Unless they give abyss/neutral some giga jacked 4 drop, with 7 ATK, she will forever be shit.

>>530954840
it will not be a great finisher like people are thinking, turn 10 medusa and this super evo, yeah good luck getting that late and not using your S.E.
but i can see some people using it in agroo to push 6 face dmg, it give itself storm right??
and in control as a cheap olvia combo (super evo trade, give bane and storm to a 1/1 squeleton and trade)

>>530955369
That's the logical conclusion of any meta where combo is king. Combo ignores everything you do, and kills you regardless of all factors once they assemble their pieces. The only way to win is to ignore what they do in turn, and just win earlier. Shadoba devs refuse to make combo bad, so we're stuck in an eternal aggro/combo arms race. Ideally midrange should be the best deck type, but for that to happen, combo has to be bad.

>>530955643
>it give itself storm right??
No

What I don't get is why do control players whine about aggro when their whole deck is built to deal with aggro.
They should be whining about.......oh.............OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>530955390
they made the 2nd game just to allow spellboosts to stay on cards you shuffle back to your deck

what's THE abyss list?

>>530955608
Swiping your credit card does not actually make you good at the game lil bro.

>>530955825
no such thing, just play sword like any other sane person

>>530946010
artifact hybrid can brick
but puppet portal rarely does

>>530955713
then i take back what I said, its a piece of shit

>>530955680
>Ideally midrange should be the best deck type, but for that to happen, combo has to be bad.
Shadowbabs will never accept this, but this is why Eachtar meta was one of the best metas. Eachtar, while dominant, didn't have a particularly lopsided matchup against anything else in the meta, it was more like 60% winrate against every other deck. This meant that every other deck in the meta was equally viable. All the tier 2 decks flourished under him and all archetypes were equally viable.

>>530955247
Why not play her as removal + chip damage instead of going for stupid Timmy combos??

>>530955390
if they keep doing rotation like in sv1, dclimb will rotate at some time around february 2026

>>530954449
Give up. We're old news now.

Swordbabs we can’t out the Haven cards with our furry… I did some complicated math and 1 plus 3 is I like 4 and 4 is bigger than 2 we can’t clear the board…

another tournament
another 3-1
I fucking hate this game mode

Tell me, are Haven mirrors.....fun?

>>530950303
Some birds have cloaca which they rub together.
So basically 2 types of pussies really.

KMR: "I will take these portal legos with me to my grave"

>>530955972
Holy shit, a Kektar defender. Those actually exist outside of Anon's fevered ramblings???

>>530954449
Play a shitty midrange deck.

We are replacing Abysskeks

Is Ceres good or bad?

>>530955538
>re-add mahjong table
>now nobody in the lobby plays shadoba, just mahjong
you can get your fix somewhere else

am I the only haven player that have problem with portal?
can anybody confirm if puppet portal is the worst matchup for haven?
I think puppet portal is harder than forest somehow? rarely get wins from them

I'm never touching this shit class ever again.

>>530953636
Current Meta Review:
Swordcraft Midrange
They pilot themselves, but they're fun to fight since they're honest for the most part—always doing the same thing. Classic stuff.
Roach
A gem deck, a combo deck that's really hard to play. The deck sometimes loses to itself due to a bad draw, but it definitely doesn’t play solitaire. When you're playing it, you're fighting for your life using little fairies—it's really hardcore. I expect this deck to stop existing in 7 days, sadly.
Portalcraft Artifact
Also a gem deck, with an overwhelming amount of decision-making involved. I’d say it’s unfun to fight because the deck is clearly overtuned with Sylvia and Orchis. It would be fairer if Orchis weren’t allowed.
Portalcraft Puppet
The most boring—pure stalling. It can't win without Orchis. I hope they make this archetype more interesting with the new cards.

>>530956212
I actually didn't play Kektar back then as I mained CBlood, which was a tier 3 deck at the time. It was still a more enjoyable meta than most other metas I experienced in SV1.

>>530956235
Good if you have enough braincells to understand how valuable small power shifts are. Bad if you're a typical /svg/ "person" who believes anything that doesn't do 15 storm damage on fanfare is a do nothing card.

>>530955915
Puppet is more consistent, but also lower power levels. It loses can easily lose to midrange sword boards, artifact, and it absolutely cannot beat rune and forest. It's consistent, but consistently mediocre. Whereas all other top decks (spellboost, roach, aggro sword) have very high highroll potential. Puppet highroll is not possible, because the entire deck's power is in Orchis, and Orchis is restricted by board space. There's no way to buff puppets in hand other than +1 from an expensive 6pp card. At most you can play 2 Noahs before Orchis and do 11 on with a puppet or 13 on 9 with an enahnced puppet. That's pitiful compared to the bullshit rune and forest can do, and sword can do 1 less damage than you with 0 set up with just 1 Albert on 9. Puppets are just an incomplete archetype and very weak at the moment. They need cards to buff puppets in hand for cheap before they can become competitive.

puppet portal is fucking dog lmao

>>530952779
I want the OG rowen in the game not this bullshit.

>>530956287
you invested 40k vials and are done with it now? lol

>>530956407
Elaborate.

>>530956218
dont be so fast, nothing that abyss got until now,
has potential to have them

>>530956467
I didn't invest anything, game gave me 3x of every abyss legendary for free and it's fucking garbage.

>>530956329
>I expect this deck to stop existing in 7 days
NOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>530956026
Is the second hidden guy the Omen nigger?
Who asked for him?

>>530956329
>that's really hard to play.
You WBabies would literally die trying to play OG roach.

>>530956715
me

>>530956278
Haven's worst matchup is with their own deck
It's like a 3rd world rune
Draws well, then it has all the tools it needs
Draws poorly, then it just rolls over
Truly feast or famine gameplay

>>530956278
Portal is free for Haven if you get the ambush guy on curve and keep him big (literally no out if he's 4hp aside from the 4pp neutral removal). Portal has very low pressure, so you can easily stabilize, and make for one big push. Portal struggles against any deck that can push 15 to 20 damage in 1 turn like haven, rune, and forest, because they themselves are capped around 13 at most if they get the right set up, and highroll.

>>530956287
its funny.
i have seen like 5 people that were, waiting for enough vials to craft abyss, I'm sure they all regret their decision.

are people really gonna quit because of wilbert and aether?
is this game gonna just lose most of its playerbase now?

>>530956329
I asked chatgpt to "fix the grammar if theres mistakes" and I copy pasted without proof reading and why the fuck is he adding em dash everywhere unprompted, I'm switching to Deepseek this guy is retarded

>>530956542
Runa...

>>530956525
>super evo Ceres
>now op either have to have lethal or spend a lot of resource to take her out else she'll just keep healing for free

>>530956878
Yes, it's gonna shut down a month later in august.

>>530956943
Is she ok on turn 4?

>>530956627

>>530956134
They are if you draw lapis

>>530956878
People will quit once they realize if aggro is bad, nothing can beat rune. Haven can't beat rune. Ambush guy gets williamed, so haven has no big damage potential against rune.

>>530956878
Haven is cancerous enough to fight against. If Ward Haven is popular I'm done lol

>>530956278
It’s usually a free win for portal. No idea what that delusional faggot is talking about so just ignore him

>>530957159
>Still going on about muh rune
Very low IQ post.

>>530957225
Good, fuck off stupid shitter.

>>530956278
haven shits on me as puppet but idk your haven list

Soon...

swordbros... believe in yourself you can do it...

>>530956847
I need 2 ambush guy evolved and 2 2/2 birds on board?

>1 serene sanctuary
>2 beast princess
>3 beast princess engage princess
>4 +1 pp safela
>5 safela
>6 wilbert
>7 aether
>8 jeanne

How do you win

>>530957093
it's for ants tho

>>530957159
>Get your Aether board William'd
>Still have 3/3 and 2 X 2/4 ready for Jeanne.

>>530954449
Wait are we fucked? I haven't been paying attention to the new cards

>>530955247
>7pp 10/10
Realistic how do you even counter this?
Most strong cards that you can drop by then are gimped by lower health so they can be easily killed before getting to move

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
BRING THE EXPANSION ALREADY
I hate this interim period where I can't safely invest into building new decks.

>>530957362
I swipe the card so I get as many legendaries as my opponent.

>>530957362
Gravy, Medusa, Medusa?

>>530957362
>Less stats than a currently clearable sword board
dunno lol

>>530957547
hard removals are 4pp

>>530957547
Nyou're right ! I'm putting it in my fairy deck now!

>>530957003
This is from someone playing against the card and not as an abyss player so take that how you will.
I think Ceres is an okay 4 drop. She's not too hard to remove but also not too easy. If she's left alive she can trade into your high value drop. Her real power is on super evo where unless you have a bane or hard removal, you'll likely have to spend 2 cards, and potentially a point, to take her out. The barrier coupled with bane is really nasty.

>>530957556
i would mind less if they had shown me even a single puppet card

>Decide to try Abyss
>Can't establish any board at all ever
>No card draw
>No real removal until turn 5+
>No finisher
>Go 0-5
How in the fuck was this allowed, I knew it was bad but jesus christ! This shit is gonna take multiple sets of cards just to be playable

>>530957362
>ann grea
>ann grea with free 8/6s
>william
>kuon
>william with free 3/3 rushes if anything lives
>satan dclimb astro sevo kill

>>530946345
Annoyed because Abyss so far isn't really moving in a playstyle direction that I care for which is why I've been slowly pivoting to Sword.

>>530957836
You have plenty of card draw and removal, you just don't have strong followers. Use the skeletons from Mino and Bonermancer to fuel the other cards and your top ends are honestly pretty insane. It's not weak but it's not very fun to play at present though, no.

just died turn 7 to portal as forest
didnt see see may until turn 5 and didnt see glade
1/1 into puppeteer into eudie had me at 13 health into beta shooting me four times

>>530957836
I went 4-1 with abyss in both stage 1 and stage 2 of the GP.

tnmuWPG

If anyone needs friend codes still.

PortalGODS, what do we think about Carnelia?

>>530958024
Your fault for mulliganing wrong.

>>530957547
and thats just 2 pages that i looked there is a lot more

>>530957556
I'm about to craft anyways man I will have a whole week of fun...!!

>Miss lethal every game
Wow so this is the LoRbab representative huh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVDQ7iqyXSk

You now remember abyss

How were the ranks again? I need D0 at least for the event...
I want the legendaries.
I'm beginner 2 T_T

>>530958252
Valse specifically doesn't kill the elephant, anon...

>>530958206
She replaces the 1/3

>>530957836
>Decide to try Abyss
Great, it's a very consistent deck
>Can't establish any board at all ever
You should try playing Bonemancer, Yuna and Ceres
>No card draw
Darkseal and Soul Predation
>No real removal until turn 5+
You have the best removal in the game and it costs 1
>No finisher
Cerberus into Cerberus is 14 dmg and probably more
>Go 0-5
You suck

>>530958360
i was thinking evolving it but if you dont want is fine take it out

Leaks doko?

>>530958250
actually wouldnt have done anything and i hard mulled
turns out not seeing may = lose

>>530958329
Nobody cares about your gay streamers

https://poal.me/39re70

>>530956329
You forgot
"fuck you" rune
when it reaches turn 10, it plays 3 turns in a row, sets your max HP to 1 and superevo kills you
or it plays 21/21 charger
failing that, it just clears your board on turn 5 and drops 0pp 8/6 and 3/3 rush while healing for 12

>>530958471
it's 2am. westerners aren't human.

>>530951332
RNG is MORE impactful in longer games what the fuck are you talking about?

>>530957362
You forgot mainyu on bricked hand into griffon behind grail and darkhaven

>>530958723
retard

Can't wait for the new cards for Haven next expansion.

>>530958723
>RNG is MORE impactful in longer games what the fuck are you talking about?
imagine being this retarded

Astaroth should say "set your opponent's maximum HP to 1 but they are immune to sevo piercing damage for the rest of the game". Because a token was nerfed rather than a card, no vial refunds. NEXTO!

>>530958824
Will be solely playing rune for Williaming havens, thanks cygames

>forestnigger killed himself
based

>>530958437
>Yuna + Ceres + Darkseal
You're full of shit
>You have the best removal
That is portal, hang yourself
>Cerberus into Cerberus
Wow just play two 8pp cards in a deck with bad cycling and super evo them for 14 (FOURTEEN) dmg!!!
Kys nigger

>be haven
>dont interact with the opponent, full clear and storm to face
>people call this ''''honest''''

>>530958723
Actually 0 iq.

People finally waking up to haven being bitchmade in here

>>530958906
It's a very tough match up for them. They were enjoying their free wins on the portal, and rune heavy ladder, but now they killed all portal and rune , and it's nothing, but counter decks. I certainly was forced to switch from portal to sword due to this shit.

>>530958868
>>530958804
Ah yes I love being in situations where both players are burnt out and topdecking or having careful decision making blown the fuck out by convenient topdecks. RNG is a fundamental aspect of card games and a game being longer doesn't necessarily change that.

>somehow survived triple orchis
please give the new cards. i want to feel safe behind my ward walls....

>>530958878
Keep pretending like this happens any more often than once every 50 games

what is current meta decklist for rune (dont bitch at me, game gave me 7 total rune legos)

>>530957115
surely you can draw your lapis by turn seven

>>530958252
Hound is a 6pp and you're either gonna use all the dogs or an evo to deal with the mammoth
Valse will need an evo
4pp removals aren't always available and some deck don't even run them + it's a 4pp on turn 7 meaning you won't be able to play any of your stronger cards that turn
Samurai and Medical Assassin are the only ones that can feasibly deal with the mammoth without gimping your play

>>530959104
>where both players are burnt out and topdecking
Run more card draw density, retard. With enough card draw you never run out of gas even as you go through your entire deck.

>>530959087
I even added juno and astrologers to my rune to even up the matchup, always funny to see the 3 wards awkwardly pop out at the end if each turn when facing forest

>>530957276
Lol, control players have no self awareness.

>>530959113
orchis is unironically weak without sevo so the 3rd one is a brick

He is the coolest card next set

Dear Santa,
All I want this expansion is for KMR to nerf all the legendaries I own so I can get some vials to experiment with dumb shit
All the rune leggos? Surely they need a little tweak
Orchis? you don't want her to keep being playable in artifact, right?
Satan could use a little bit of text preventing players from recovering PP on the turn he's used, don't you think?
Kagemitsu's getting a little too big for his britches as well, it wouldn't hurt to nip that strategy in the bud
Please santa I'm not asking a lot it's for the health of the game I swear

Witness
The dumbest topdeck battle of all time

fuck i tunneled again, forgot that its not its not necessary to kill sylvia

I hope set 2 makes roachniggers and spellboostniggers both go extinct. Combo is the worst fucking archetype to play against in any card game. If you want to jerk off and play solitaire, just do that in actual solitaire, you don't need a second person for that.

>>530959104
Stop doubling down retard. Less decision making points, and less player agency means more luck dependence.

>>530959225
Yes, card draw. Something that is not evenly distributed across gameplans or card classes, either because it may not necessarily play well into a gameplan or because card designers WotC are retards and make that shit a premium for everyone but a select few.

i'm not seeing the portal nerfs

>>530956878
Depends how unhealthy haven becomes
Rune is moreso bullshittery out of its ass than sheer oppressiveness, as AG/Kuon can be answered
If haven ends up with unanswerable boards for half the classes, it'll feel unfairly oppressive which is a worse experience to play through than bullshit steals

>>530958703
Umm it's actually 3am

>>530956278
Forest, portal and abyss are the hardest matchups for me. I don't remember the last time I won against abyss.

>>530959543
Olivia is neutral card draw that can be used in any deck with low card draw.
Seraphic tidings is less "free", but it can also go in many decks, I've even seen midrange lists running it on shadowverse-wins with 10x diamond master winstreaks.
And every class has their own in-class draw options, too.

>>530959553
>nerfing a tier 2 class

>>530954840
Yeah I can see some copium for Ginsetsu but this one is dead on arrival.
Supervo + 3pp to give storm is really bad value, there's a reason that one dragon card that does the same is never even taken into consideration for any build.

>>530959602
Are you suppose to be fucking this instead of Eudie?

>>530959005
hags have always been notorious downplayers

>>530959509
TRUTH: Aggro is more solitaire than combo.

whenever haven becomes meta EVERYONE suffers including haven players

wait you only get 2 attempts in stage 2?
this and only 1 free attempt per stage probably actually means less shitters (me) brute forcing their way to stage a finals on the last day

>>530959751
actually true

>>530959509
AggroGOD

>>530959751
Not really, you can just heal up and remove their cards to interact with them. You can't do that against combo.

>>530959219
even if you trade all your dogs thats a win.
that guy put a useless card in their deck that was countered with a card that cost 1 less and has the potential to be way more useful and can even be played at turn 3.
there is lots of cards like that dragon 4 mana 2/2 that kills a minion or the sworcraft 4 mana that does the same.

what you are not considering is that to play the 7 mana 10/10 that will be killed by a 4 mana card you are skiping your turn to play it, while your oponent only gimped their turn a little.

>>530959509
spellboost is gettin buffed bro....

>>530959751
why do combo and control players pretend aggro is the only alternative? its just like the stun players in ygo

>>530959881
Go back to the hearthstone thread

I’m starting to think I’m bricked for the next set

>>530959881
I play both, I only hate combo troons. My favourite is midrange.

MidrangeGODS what are we playing?

>>530959535
Look I get you look down on us aggro babs but you need us like it or not.

>>530959960
A healthy meta consists of aggro, midrange, and control. Fuck comboniggers.

>>530959881
>aggro
>trade
why yes i do enjoy trading my storm minions into the enemy's 0/20 face

>>530959553
portal won't be relevant anymore in haven/rune meta

>>530959668
Yeah I use Olivia and Soul Predation, I still don't really care for longer games because Abyss has really specific windows where it's actually threatening.

Honestly I'm salty as fuck I flew off of the handle, apologies.

>>530957556
uhh bwo? this interim period started last month. if you crafted anything within the last month your account is literally bricked.

Roachbros...its over for us in 4 days...

>>530960016
you're looking pretty good for not spending any rupees

>>530959960
Why are you randomly mentioning other games when faced with the fact dragon is a pure solitaire class right now

>>530960041
Abyss

>>530960149
yes... yes it is

>>530960036
all control decks in SV are combo to some extent

>>530960110
>Honestly I'm salty as fuck I flew off of the handle, apologies.
Happens. Let's just let it go then. Though I'll add that I specifically dream of the day when Abyss control is good.

>>530960132
I just started 2 days ago... :(

>>530960149
cyope harder, roach will NEVER be bad

>>530957304
Where is he?

>>530949245
TOTAL

>>530960050
a healthy metas dont have aggro or control decks in them because the existence of either immediately pushes out midrange due to the bad matchup
or midrange needs to be a win the game turn 6 (basically combo) to compete

>>530960226
The only distinction is control is incapable of killing you from full health regardless of board, whereas combo is.

>>530960149

>>530960254
Thyat syo?

>>530960226
>all control decks in SV are combo to some extent
No-wincon CBlood didn't run any combo as it had no plan to close out the game beyond the Tanaka-san opponent conceding due to having to get off on his train stop.

Why are things so jagged even on HIGHEST graphics?

>i dont feel like shit when i lose anymore either through bricking or my own misplays and keep fighting in ranked
>still cant make it past ruby
haha.... im not gonna be able to stop being a ruby retard before the season ends it seems

fuck rune
fuck D climbing trannies

>>530960391
never was, never will

>>530959553
Half of the set is immune to removal, killing Sylvia.
Half of the set spawns four taunts, preventing Orchis from going face.
On top of that the expansion is only giving Portal a single shitty artifact card it won't even run.
There are no direct nerfs because KMR doesn't want to give out vials but the craft is dead.

>>530960151
He'd be at 20k if that were the case

>>530960442
that's okay bro, you have reached nirvana

>>530960236
I don't even want Abyss control, and honestly it seems pretty decent at hanging in for longer games. I'm more upset that its early and especially middle turns are so bad. I don't like Control and I don't really care that the game doesn't want us to have resilient followers or fucking anything worth playing on turn 4. The best use of regular evo points for me is fucking Aragavy burn and that feels terrible.

>>530960328
It depends on the decks in question, but I've seen metas where midrange was a solid deck with 50-50 or better matchups against everything, including combo, control, and aggro, while the other three were in a rock-paper-scissors triangle.

>>530957304
Only the Portal guy is missing

>>530960149
Uhhh what's happening with roach? I would like it if they fucked off so I can be favoured against everything

>>530960506
Yeah, you just pop a griffon behind a grail, I don't see the issue?

Play again with my last ticket or save?

>>530960552
The best hope for midrange Abyss is probably getting a bunch of cards that pop out a lich on last words.

>>530960442
Diamond isn't fun, Anon. Games take forever and everyone's a sweaty tryahrd. You're blessed.

>>530960391

My last lobby tournament match. I didn't think I would lose from this position with full hp and he only had 6 cards in hand (one of which I knew was the 0pp spell). In hindsight, I should've used demonic call and kill the last fairy on the board since he needed that exact lethal. I wanted to save my own board space though because I wanted to summon the big shikigami next turn...
My topaz was showing so much this tournament. I misplayed so often. This wasn't even the only time I gave my opponent their only out to win the game...

>>530960226
SV has combo decks that can literally kill from full health regardless of the board state or what the opponent played during the whole match. Literal "Finished my quest? gg I win" cards.
I wouldn't call just having a slow wincon for control decks as 'combo'.

>>530960706
i did not pull griffon..............

make orchis 9pp, and her puppet shouldnt have storm and bane. choose one effect and cut the other

>>530960743
you need to get to group a finals bro

>>530960328
I didnt play thaaat many card games but from my understanding control beats midrange, midrange beats combo, combo beats controls and aggro just feasts on the bricks and has a decent chance vs all of them

Does this show my time or japanese time?
Am i 32 minutes too late?

>>530960408
>Tanaka-san opponent conceding due to having to get off on his train stop.
man that sounds fun to play, damm i missed it

>>530960661
Aether summons four wards with Aura on turn 7. It is not possible for Forest to clear that even with the most custom hand. The deck is dead and buried.

>>530960586
this only happens in low power metas where control and aggro havent developed their gameplans and are forced to play the tempo game like everyone else

>>530954840
>medusa+this
>deal less damage than cerberus
Top kek

>>530960226
There was the Sanctuary Haven deck where they dropped Ra and stood there menacingly for the rest of the game

Puppet portal is the most dogass shit deck ive ever had the misguided misfortune to make
You literally have to highroll every single goddamned game or you lose

>must save at least 2 evos, really you probably need 3
>trying to use a card thats not supposed to be a finisher (Orchis) to be a finisher
>Have to clear boards in the most inefficient dogshit way to save evos
>have to draw at least 2 orchis or you lose
>if you draw orchis liam you can hopefully win by 10 but you will lose to any deck that is faster

Liam should cost 9, card is way too bad to cost fucking 10

And getting orchis still doesnt mean you win, because decks can heal like fucking 6-8 in one turn anyway
This shit is fucking trash man

>>530960854
It's over for today. You can play again tomorrow though. There's only 1 participation per week anyway, so you didn't lose anything.

Any guild I can join? I'm sure I can't pull my weight but I really want the 3500 vials.

>>530960878
The deck basically just contained heal, removals, protection, and card draw. Your ways to win the game were the enemy conceding, decking out, or running out of gas so hard that you could slowly chip them away with your random control dorks.

>>530959751
>6pp 8 face
Defend this

>last game stolen AGAIN by rune
>3-1 in lobby tournament for the third time

>>530960747
Yes! I want Liches, Wights, and Zombies. I see people complaining about Rune getting "Mordecai", I'm more upset that Sword has Royal Coachwoman.

>>530961016
Ok

>>530960836
combo decks, if given good defensive tools, beat everyone
then people play aggro because if nothing sticks only burn/storm will do anything

>>530960991
svg nonnies

>>530961016
>6pp forte evo face for 7 damage
>7pp odin sevo face for 7 damage, 14 total
>8pp shark for 6 damage, 20 total
How do you respond to this without sounding mad?

>>530960956
>/svg/ laughed at it, calling it 5 PP drop do nothing card
>seethes and cries for it to be nerfed not even a week later

>>530960964
I have never, ever played a game where my Orchis lasts more than my turn.

>>530961173
How do I join it? Don't I need a code?

>>530960661
Ward Haven becomes the new tumor

>>530961179
I deploy Ward

>>530960956
this deck ended the game on like turn 9 though

>>530960836
Back when I played SV1, the matchups were that control feasted on aggro, aggro feasted on combo, and combo feasted on control, while midrange was decent against everything and thus offered the most consistent experience.

>>530961254
455272193501

>>530960661
Majority of crafts are getting cards that kill roach

>>530960041
Abyss of course

>kagemitsu becomes unplayable come haven ward
Great game guys...

How do you win as abyss vs hybrid portal? This is too fucking hard. Puppet only was so fucking easy too

>>530961295
Odin banishes your ward. And lens strips ward from whatever you might have had before Forte got played.

>joining the erp guildie

>>530961219
Me neither
Everything has to go perfectly right to win as puppet
Or your opponent just has to let you hit their face for like 7 damage early-mid game

Any competent opponent will steamroll puppet portal, it's so bad lmao

>>530961057
>Rune getting "Mordecai"
They didn't though. Mordecai has no cost to revive banishing it is the only way to remove it permanently.

>swordtard downplaying

>>530960782
no combo deck, at least currently goes for 20->0 combos.
thats just meme, roach usually aims for a 11-14 dmg combo, i think i have only seen rune do the 20/20 once and didnt had the evo point to give it storm, is way more common for them to end playing satan and finishing you with the storm guy or double 6 dmg to face.

>>530961179
I already had summoned Wilbert before your Forte.
Aether before your Odin.
Turn 8 I buff my board with Jeanne and win.

>>530961283
It's fine for now as they didn't have a good wincon yet.
Only a matter of time until they made it into final countdown stalll deck though

Reminder if you don't have the Rodeo sleeves from GP you WILL be kicked from the guild. Thanks!

>>530961357
Ty. I applied. Description sounded a bit gay though. I'm not a homo just saying.

This is what PTSD in making looks like.

>>530961015
ummmm thats my kind of deck, ohh pure pain for agroo decks

>>530961539
I know, I'm honestly not at all impressed by Lilanthim but we'll see.

this wilbert card is cool but why did he have to be a twink with glasses? should've been a muscley man

>>530961564
roach is stronger than you're giving it credit for.

>>530961052
Iktf. 3-0 into 3-1 every time so far. Feels like I'm never going to win one of these.

Bro i NEED to see puppet portal support over the next 5 days
REVEAL THE PORTAL CARDS
JUSTICE FOR ORCHIS HER DECKS SUCK

Any way to UNLINK an email from a throwaway I used for rerolls if I don't remember the account ID anymore?

>>530961873
It's anathema series puppet support...

>>530960825
the most stupid take, making her 9pp is enough

>>530957362
This has no life pressure at all. All this does is stall

>>530961052
>>530961856
3-1 is skill
4-0 is luck

>>530961815
i play roach i have not even once done a 20 dmg combo.
no one will give you the space to prepare it

>>530960985
omg, thnx a lot senpai
Still new to this
But are they posting schedule for my local time thou?

>>530961564
I was thinking about SV1 decks mostly, which had a shit ton of "quest" combo decks in its lifespan.
SV WB only has Roach and Rune for combo decks right now (which are tame compared to SV1 combo decks to be fair), but you can already feel the design isn't much different from SV1 with "Tanaka-san has to finish the game by turn 10 at most" philosophy design.

bros, is ward haven actually going to be as good as people are saying, or are people overreacting?

>>530962000
I've done 20-21 a few times

>>530960964
liam is fine, puppet have free 1 evo in late game

>saves abyss

>>530962090
The Ward Haven highroll creates a board that is pretty impossible to clear by attacking into them
but plenty of decks probably have ways to bullshit the followers off the board

>>530962090
It's going to be the tier 0 dominant deck.

>>530946474
there's 4 followers on board, jeanne is about to drop next turn and do 35 to face

>>530962207
does it really need hand buff

I'm legit more excited for the silver and bronze Sword cards

>>530962090
Ward haven not going to be auto win but will make many decks/entire classes suffocating to play into it
Issue is if it tends towards rune/haven which is an awful state for the health of the game

So, is Ward Haven the equivalent of Heal haven from SV1?
That deck is really annoying to fight. No joke

>>530960964
Yep, it's really bad and it's insane to me that people get mad about it and want it nerfed.
Some people are so desperate for a way to do damage they put fucking Satan in it.
However, it can also win games off of really good turns 1-4 meaning you only need one Orchis, or running an aggro deck out of steam. But those are both you relying on your opponent to not get their gameplan, puppet doesn't get to have a gameplan of its own.

>>530961880
I think you just have to remember the email since you can sign in with Cygames ID on the home screen

>>530962303
It's just gonna be even worse trash. This is a filler pack.

>>530962256
1 Fox of Purity, 1 Holy Shieldmaiden, 1 Dingdong, and 1 Aether. That's five followers, my swordmaining friend.

>>530962000
its never been about space, just about draws
sometimes i do it without even meaning to

>>530962310
>tends towards rune/haven
Thank you KMR for making the only two crafts I play the most relevant for set 2.

>>530961651
Their wincon cards doesn't necessarily have to be legend you know? It could be gold or silvers, and haven's new gold and silver cards hasn't been revealed yet

>>530962493
which one of these are you counting as 2 my learning disabled friend
1 Fox of Purity
1 Holy Shieldmaiden
1 Dingdong
1 Aether
=4

>>530962090
>t5 coin wilbert
>t6 coin aether
this is the high roll
but then they cant jeanne next turn
>t6 wilbert
>t7 aether
>opp coin orchis
>board cleared before jeanne
this is the high roll
i think portal will be fine

>>530962540
Yeah and anyone playing anything else will be hit with a reality check of what the game is like and playercount can take a nosedive because of the cancer meta

>>530962493
bro gave up the ability to do regular math in favor of roach math, and his deck is about to get nuked to space

>>530961674
wait why did this post get ignored?

>>530961015
Ok, how did it lose?

why cant i fuse my bats and ghosts into a 5 cost creature of my choosing?

>>530962805
>burnite and twilight mops the ward walls
holy shit first winning match up for rampgods

>>530962394
I remember the email the issue is that I only did the 1 time pass code link on the mail on a throwaway reroll acc.
I sent them a support msg will see...

>>530962952
>if you've unlocked sevo

>>530962989
>Ok, how did it lose?
If you bricked, if the opponent OTK'd you from 20, if the opponent was another control deck with a real win condition, or if the opponent vomitted out more value than you could keep up with.

>>530961015
Sounds like cancer, did have any weaknesses?

>>530962987
I guess everyone here is confident in getting into Group A finals

>>530963182
why is this boy wearing a skirt

>>530962952
becomes 2/9 with wilbert crest and Aether SE, huh?

with space i mean the enemy giving you space to breath to do it, for a 20 combo you need to save a lot of cards

>>530962150
well they are possible, but not your main way to win all your games
>>530962495
i have killed people from 20 but thats when they let something in my board, games usually end at turn 8
i give it you guys i dont run carbuncle so that has probably something to do with why i dont aim for 20 combos.

>>530963178
It had a 80% winrate against aggro and burn, a 20% winrate against OTK combo, a 20% winrate against other control decks that had real win conditions, and a 50% winrate against midrange. Overall the average winrate on the ladder for this deck was around 40%, but autists like me managed to take it to grandmaster.

>>530962987
I'm not in a gay guild.

why did they give forest a better zirconia....

>>530962805
adding to this
if they coin aether you only really need the kill the aether
youll take some chip but ward haven has no reach unless it plays amulets for gryphon
or like 7 from odin i guess

>>530962340
no its the equivalent of ward haven from sv1
>>530963335
yeah carbuncle is a big deal, you're kinda throwing without him

Am I retarded for thinking that B group rewards are better and way easier to get than A?

>>530962987
cuz it's an attention seeking post you dumb nyagger

>>530963319
3/9. Wilbert gives +1/+2

>>530963350
Well anything can make it to GM if one is dedicated enough.
You've got abyss/haven autists in the game right now.

>>530963448
a seers globe is +1300 vials

>>530963448
>better
not really
>way easier to get
they are

>>530963426
What if they play jannu, blankets your field for -6 and buffs their board with +2/+4?

>>530963496
>Well anything can make it to GM if one is dedicated enough.
I think you needed a positive winrate to reach GM back in SV1 because you'd lose master points on a game loss.

went 3-1 in the weekend tournament because i misplayed...

at least i got 4-1 in the grand prix

>>530963653
did you read the earlier post

why ff
i had coin for the enhanced puppet but the amulet cucks me unless i'm missing something

>>530963426
>haven
>no reach
They just need darkhaven to buff bodies 1/1 and heal the entire match to get 9pp 10 reach sevo griffon wtf are you smoking

where new portal cards

wait ward haven is gonna be so annoying...............

>>530963832
you trade your lloyd into their lloyd dumbass
cant believe you wouldve lost this if he didnt concede

>play pure puppet portal against artifact
>they use Orchis against me and win
This is advanced NTR.

>>530963690
You know what I mean.

If Only Ginsetsu is 8PP...
She would be the perfect answer for Aether
But suppose she doesn't use evo points so it's fair

>>530963904
>have darkhaven
>play aether
>board locked

NEW DOWNPLAYING TIER LIST

Tier 0:-
Abyss
Sword

Tier 1:-
Forest
Rune
Portal

Tier 2:-

Tier 3:
Dragon

Never downplays:-
Haven

Discuss

>>530963970
Anon... That's only 10 face damage.

>>530963970
orchis is 1
enhanced puppets are 9
where does the final damage come from

>>530963448
>Only the champion gets the sleeves
What the fuck is this bullshit????

>>530961052
Are we getting this maid next patch?

>>530963439
i prefer to use ruby greedy cherub to not brick or get rid of extra godwood staffs or to trade a fairy for a extra draw, carbuncle needs you to have a S.E point and only gives you 1 extra pp than its cost, playing carbuncle gives you 1 more combo so is 2 extra dmg + 1 from the S.E ping but if you evo your roach instead thats 3 extra dmg so is literally only 1 extra pp =2 extra dmg that takes board space.

>>530964219
the H in haven stands for honesty, just like it does for the other crafts

>>530963969
I'm learning slang through children's card games...

>>530963832
probably didnt have another orchis

>>530964348
2 extra damage is a huge deal though?
also the bounce makes it easier to use your pp efficiently
and he also busts wards that would fuck you otherwise

>>530964219
>Abyss
>objectively the worst class in the game
>downplaying
???

>>530960442
for me, it's winning like 5 games in a row in sapphire and then losing 3 or 4 in a row, I'm so close to diamond yet so far it seems

this is so bullshit already want to retire

My crew is in S but I have 80 rank points. Is it worth it to grind for the highest individual ranked rewards?

>>530964348
>>530964614
(me)
also the bounce means he doesnt actually eat any board space

>>530964768
press s to spit on aggrocuck

>>530964768
>pot calling kettle black
the ironing...

>>530964768
valse+quickblader clears this what's the problem?

>>530964219
Haven should be tier 1 at least, very fucked up gamestates are achievable with it, but they act like the deck is helpless all the time

>>530964768
Valse the artifact, quickblader evo face.

>>530964768
just valse the artifact and quick step for chip? are you not allowed to take 4 damage from allouette or something?

>9 cost heal 4 clear 4

>>530964991
valse samurai does too and they get to keep the storm
swordtards just love to bitch

>>530964991
nta but no it doesn't because Alouette's summon isn't cracked

I need to become full Hagfag before new season starts so I can pick Abyss and then it will be buffed. No need to thanks for setting trends.

>stabs the most dishonest craft players

>>530965123
valse target alouette
evo valse crash artifact
play quickblader trade into alouette

>>530965123
they want you to crash valse

>>530965116
9 cost 13/21 with no evo

>>530965186
portalbros…
we’re safe…

i think we need to have a conversation about how bullshit jeanne is

>>530965346
Shhh, not now, Albert.

>>530964789
Sure, it's not hard to get to 120.

>>530965346
>turn 7 aether into turn 8 jeanne
can you imagine how fat those hoes are gonna be

still waiting for fairy-bane-buffer for forest
Lymaga just can't deal with Aether board

>>530965216
>>530965257
guys you don't need to crash anything, just valse the artifact and do chip, amelia is coming down next turn and if they don't clear both you're going to sevo with 5 followers on field, taking 4 from allouette is no big deal

>>530964614
usually if you need to get rid of a taunt bayle,lily, fairies are enough is really rare for carbuncle to make a difference in that, is pretty much a extra bayle and you cant play it without wasting another card, sometimes the bounce will be useful, sometimes not, i prefer the consistency.
>>530964835
yeah i guess it doesn't take the space most of the time, only moment i can think is if you had 3 lambent cairn, only fucks a little with you by forcing you to play a fairy and not trade with it
i still dont see him worth more bricks

>>530964768
>swordnigger think this is cheating while playing their one trick phony deck

>>530965530
>turn 7 coin orchis
board = clear
jeanne = bricked

>>530958804
>>530958868
>>530959045
It depends on the deck you triple retards
Rune's entire game plan is RNG on t10

>>530965346
i've been saying every craft has their bullshit legendary people focus way too much on orchis just because her craft happens to be popular, despite being t2

AggroGODS, how many copies are we crafting on day 1?

>>530965624
bayle is a fucker who doesnt show up when you need him and you will lose games from not seeing him

First try

>>530965794
dont do it you fucking rats, you wont draw him even at 3 so might as well as not play it at all

>>530965606
sevo isnt unlocked next turn retardbwo

>>530965794
x3, haven aggro btw.

>>530965794
0 because I'm whaling for feetlene

>>530964219
>forest
>t1
Kronii single handedly carry the entire forest downplay power

>Don't have enough for lethal
>BM emote spam opponent like I do
>He forfeits
My fucking sides

Abyss Sword and Haven look really good the longer the game goes on but the problem this opens up Rune to otk turn 10. I think the new meta is going to be face dragon and more control forest as anti meta that are good into haven sword and abyss but crush portal and rune.

>>530965346
Honestly, a slash across the board like jeanne and rodeo do seems more fitting for swordcraft but I know people here will seethe at any suggestion for giving sword more tools

>>530965794
i'll wait for the chest event to end

>>530962340
No. It's a turn 9 midrange deck not a turn 20 control deck

>>530966076
how is control forest good into haven
what do they do against aether on curve

>>530965794
I would craft 3 if i had aggro dragon ready
Since i dont i am sure 1 copy will be enough for most decks

>>530965794
>7 mana neutral that does the same face dmg than cerberus
why abysbros...

how it feels to switch from abysscraft to portalcraft

>>530966076
Haven gets fucked by mass bane in long run.
t.Hagfag

Can you save grand prix tickets for the next one?

>>530965957
This shit happens so often when I drop Cerberus and they only have 5-6 HP, even though I played bats earlier and could easily miss lethal.

>>530966221
They transform stuff so Wilbert get fucked

>>530965957
This is why I only quit once the card is in play

>>530966283
yup

>>530966267
thats me, but moving from abyss to forest

>>530966346
they still get the crest?
then next turn aether gets dropped
how do you clear that

>>530966267
this, but to swordcarft aggro
the deck is so braindead easy to play and powerful, it's insane

>>530960956
With Abdiel for infinite evos + 3x that angel that healed for 5 and gave you 5 extra max life, so Haven had a 35HP health bar + any other heals. Good times. Shame I lost my screenshots from back then.

>>530966498
there will be a gold 4cost that gives fairies bane

>>530966076
ummm, true the fact that rune exist means that no deck can allow themselves strategies that dont end the game at turn 9.
ginsetsu is even more dead now

>>530966560
treefuckerbro…

WE NEED CREST REMOVAL!!!

>>530965789
forest doesnt, but it has glade i guess

>>530966267
Very wholesome, here is your reddit gold + updoot xister

>>530966627
rune beats haven beats roach beats rune
a tale as old as time

>>530966775
roach is above lego tier

>>530949245
I just cummed to this

>>530966685
no, we need a way to steal the enemies crests instead.

>>530964991
Board empty on my side while going first is just a death sentence especially considering they could drop another, theres no clean way out of this and their early game is almost as good if hybrid while also having a proper game ender. My main grip is how going second is so much more consistent with one more card and pp boost.

>>530965114
>>530965257
6pp valse is my only wincon in portal matchup because the moment they drop orchis board presence or amelia shield dont matter anymore and couldnt chip enough early

also yes I'm a noob started last week and this is the only decent deck without spending ruppee/vial could go for, fuck portal

>>530966076
>face dragon
>ward spam deck
Nice joke

Card idea

Portal
Legendary
Cost 5
Transform all enemy guys into puppets

>>530966267
>>530966414
when I switched to forest, I basked in the gaze of oji-san and drank from the nectar of his sweat dripping from his abs to win games before I get to OTK with roach

>>530946191
why are they raping forest this hard

>>530966864
Holy shit YES, they need to copy Priest stealing archetype from Hearthstone.

This is your win condition.

>>530967080
>random card draw that is impossible to play around

No thanks

How many dclimb do you put in your deck? 3 seems like overkill.

>>530966995
Hmm... 9PP at least. Take it or leave it.

>>530967298
Pure sex. Too bad she and Eudie are stuck in Portal.

>>530967298
can someone loredump me on ralmia
why is she always depicted really emotional for a robot?

>>530967020
Can't wait for next set top make him playable, Forest GODS.

>>530967370
you want all 3 so you can draw 1 early

HOW DO I GET RUNA WALLPAPER!!

>>530967298
ovaboosto in her womb

>>530967370
3 to maximise your chance to drawing it. Drawing it post turn 5 turns it into a brick

Reminder that Portal downplayers will be getting terminal cancer, karma will kill you (and your mom) if you downplay Portal. You have been warned.

>>530966775
yeah i guess i should have said all but forest but forest plays a completely different game from the rest of us

>>530967370
At first glance it seems that way, but you need to draw one of them early on. Getting them after you already played Anne and Grea or Kuon will make them mostly useless (or at the very least your T10 combo is fucked).

>>530967620
Portal isnt good though
The craft is midtier at best

>>530967620
Why do you think Pure Puppet Portal is really good if they only have 2 winconditions?

>>530967620
Good thing I don't downplay it at all, I only state the objective truth that it is mid.

>>530967620
This but Sword

>>530965606
sorry i dont speak swordbab, can you translate this into english

Pure Puppet is actually fucking garbage, its unreal

>>530966864
Yes. Stealing crest/card ability/sealing ability/stealing follower/copying follower/copying ability. Those are my favorite mechanics.

>>530967932
but this general swears it's the best deck since launch?

>>530966956
>boohoo i had to trade away my board
sword entitlement.

Open sex chat.
Phone number:
817253747768

>>530967932
puppets is stalling garbage like control abyss / haven
it's so boring and takes both of you guys hostage because no one can get a board presence going on for like 5 minutes

>>530966956
>also yes I'm a noob
we could tell, you struggle with portal