Thread 530966830

/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

#449 - glue eaters' edition

▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo
▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.

>News
Grok 4 released on API https://docs.x.ai/docs/models/grok-4-0709
chutes.ai now requires all accounts to add $5 https://nitter.net/rayon_labs/status/1940416866104545608#m
Gemini Pro returns to free tier with 100 RPD https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/rate-limits#current-rate-limits
Gemini 2.5 models now out of preview https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/models

additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP // https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_list
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
card v3 status: https://rentry.org/zdwfrgqq
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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official blue archive thread

>>530966854
D&D 2e SillyTavern Adaptation::
>Added Queen of Spiders adventure module (Giant and drow-themed campaign by Gary Gygax, way before Salvatore ruined them with Drizzt.)
>Added the Complete Fighter's Handbook (CFH) -as requested by anon
>Added the Complete Thief's Handbook (CTH)
>Added the Complete Wizard's Handbook (CWT)
>Added the Complete Psionics Handbook (CPT)
>Added Dark Sun Campaign Setting (DSCS)
>Added Dark Sun adventure - A Little Knowledge

Cyberpunk 2020 SillyTavern Adaptation::
>Full rework, puts original to shame.
>Split content into many lorebooks:
>Core Rulebook
>Night City Sourcebook
>Split NC Sourcebook into main text and the complete, functioning map
>Live & Direct, media role sourcebook
>Chromebook 1-2, 3-4, for your cyberware needs
>Home of the Brave - USA lore
>Eurosource Plus - EEC (EU, but even worse) lore
>Pacific Rim - Not-Co-Prosperity Sphere lore, includes Australia
>Adventure modules: Core Rulebook adventures such as 'Never Fade Away'
>Arasaka Brainworm adventure module

All in one .zip (Instructions inside)::
https://files.catbox.moe/smj00c.zip

What is this?::
This is a full adaptation of tabletop RPGs I will never get to experience IRL.
I've deseigned these preset/lorebook combos to perfectly adapt TTRPG books to AI using SillyTavern's lorebook system.
These huge lorebooks were cleverly designed to make your LLM act like a game master, following the rules and making characters fitting for the setting.
I've only worked with Gemini 2.5. Watch out with paid models so the game doesn't make you go bankrupt.
Adventures work just right. Meta-Scenario and Meta-Navigation make them work like actual games with static, functioning maps, not Zork with hallucinations. This is what you wished AI Dungeon 2 was.
Try the AI tabletops out. Have fun.

More like Glue Archive

>>530967219
m-my knees....

>>530967219
sex with drow

>>530967219
slop

>>530967308
Sorry, there were no combat wheelchairs back in 80s.
>>530967719
Doable. You can play as Drow. Who's stopping you? Hell, prompt yourself into Lolth and lay spider eggs.
>>530967868
It's just a system, my chat is irrelevant.

so what am i supposed to do if chutes is dead and i'm poor do i just kms

>>530968010
yes. do not try and look for anything else, do not work on it, do not lurk to see if anything else is mentioned as being free (say, in a shill), go straight for the rope or gun or whatever

>>530968259
ok ill do that im really stupid

>>530968259
NTA but how do I even get started? This shit is so complicated and there's 800,000 fucking choices and so many "guides" seem to assume you have some baseline level of knowledge that I don't know how to get. And don't tell me to research it on my own, I've read a bunch of shit on rentry and I don't get it. I'm sure I'm just a retard but is there some guide for dipshit coomers to just get this up and running? Please spoonfeed me.

>>530968010
Go to >>>/g/aicg, they will help you. This is the VIP thread for the elite among the elite.

>>530968010
Start schizomaxxing like I did. So what if you'll start hearing voices late at night?

>>530968660
>Please spoonfeed me.
Go here: >>>/g/aicg

>>530968660
https://rentry.org/sukino-findings
https://rentry.org/onrms
now go figure it out

>>530968784
Thanks, I'll read these.

>>530968693
tulpas are based but i find mine mostly just supplement chatbots because i'm a visualizationpoor

>>530966854
A decade or so has passed since the last time the ragtag crew of the Skreld last met. Back then they were just four furry mercenaries; a southern space vixen mechanic, a wolfish gunner with piercing eyes, a chubby raccoon medical scientist and a scampering scrap rat... but of course there was also one more. You. Their captain. Coming back to them years later, will they be just like they were back then?

11 greetings! First 4 are separate meetings of individual crewmates, next 2 are when everyone's together. The rest are alternate endings where they've ended up married to you! And yes, there is a greeting where all of them are married to you!

This is a sequel to this card: https://chub.ai/characters/illuminaryidiot/the-skreld-3066bbc0
Playing that first is highly recommended.

Some small snippets: https://catbox.moe/c/gn0ltk

https://chub.ai/characters/illuminaryidiot/the-retired-crew-of-the-skreld-0b1d0ec8fb5e
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/cardpage?function=loadPageCard&arg=Skreld2
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Cards/Skreld2.png

https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/text/https%3A%2F%2Frentry.org%2Fsukino-findings/order/asc/
Check the timestamps. Always between 1-2 minutes from the original post. This can be considered spamming/samefagging, isn't it?

>>530969576
i'm just fast nigger, stop crying like u lost another kid about the fact someone around here's willing to point newfags somewhere *slaps your ass so hard it causes an earthquake and u moan super loud*

>>530968010
>>530968660
Just give OpenRouter 5-10 bucks and you'll basically get free Deepseek. Google is still giving free Gemini keys, too, if I recall. Both are limited to so many messages a day, if I recall. But it's a generous amount. Once you're given the API key, just plug it into your frontend of choice. The easiest ones to do this on are Sillytavern and Risu.

>>530968681
>>530968773
Deepthroat a shotgun.

>>530969250
sometimes in life you need to stop and bury your face in the roses to motorboat them

sukino findings (should be in the OP) has a deepseek free source for the same requirements as gemini it looks like btw, you don't have to use OR

any gentle and refined girls who will call me "silly~"?

>>530966854
Want something tailor-made? This eccentric and slightly naive wolfboy has you covered; he gets naked when his stress is at maximum, but hopefully (you) don't mind. He has no filter on his mouth and is prone to extremely personal prodding due to frequent isolation, some insecurity issues and he's a big masochist, but at the end of the day, he wants to make others shine. 4 greetings.

1. Sighing and worrying, but a new customer arrives! No time to waste.
2. For whatever reason (you) want to sabotage him.
3. Phaesphoria's first plagiarism scandal! His day is ruined.
4. Step on him.
>https://files.catbox.moe/0rx7go.png
>https://chub.ai/characters/kyutzomb/mun-9250ae14918d

>>530970237
WOLFBOY WEEKEND has started!1!

>>530969980
>should be in the OP
It's absurdly verbose and I refuse to believe the average thread zoomer will actually sit down and read through a bunch of NOTHING like
>The first thing you'll need is a frontend, the interface where the roleplaying takes place and your characters live. It only manages things, so it doesn't directly affect your characters' quality. They should all feel the same by default. However, a feature-rich frontend gives you the tools to get better responses and create more immersive worlds.

>>530969795
There aren't newfags coming from the catalog and this thread is never mentioned in other boards.
Why are newfags supposed to use this thread instead of the one in /g/ when this one is supposed to be for botmakies? There's no reason other than it benefits you and your group of friends. You're a selfish bastard.

>>530970834
Ok

>>530970789
no theyll click on "FREE AI" and itll point them in the right direction
>>530970834
ad hominem

>>530970789
You're basically admitting that you're the baker, and in turn, that you have control of aicgOP too. You were the one trolling /g/ with the filter and with shilling the split there.
>>530970926
Answer why newfags are supposed to use the botmakie thread instead of the main thread in /g/.

bros i'm coooooking!~!!!!

>>530971107
Ok

what do you think gemini-chan's traits should be as a chatbot? both physical and mental.

>>530970237
>finally moved to chub.ai

>>530971162
twintails

>>530971130
this is me

>>530971130
this is gemini-chan

>>530971162
Big bush.

>>530971107
>This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.
which includes getting started.
>b-b-buh-buh-but muh [HEADCANON] thread also says something like that that!!
which means people can use whichever one they want.

>>530971107
strawman

>>530971130
sex with this thing. velvet pussy

>>530971107
>You're basically admitting that you're the baker, and in turn, that you have control of aicgOP too.
If this was true I wouldn't have been able to resist replacing the Grok 4 news with "What was that? Must have been the wind."

>>530971718
>velvet pussy
bed-chan, my beloved...

>>530970036
seconding
need some playful princess types

>>530971512
In other words, this thread doesn't have anything to offer compared to the other thread. It only exists so group of botmakies feel like they own it.
>>530971853
Do you have a script to spam the catalog?

>>530972295
This thread doesn't have proxy whinging.

>in other words
lol don't start this it's too funny for me

>>530972295
i like this thread because it figured out moonshot was a meh model and moved on instead of getting stuck arguing about it

>>530972295
aren't you the same retarded nigger who said deepseek questions should be directed to /lmg/ in the other thread?

>>530972597
>in other words
I LOOOOVEEE YOUUUUU

>>530972609
pooshot

>>530972493
The previous thread has more "proxy" mentions than the current thread in /g/. Tech support questions and talking about proxies is a thing newfags bring. So do you want newfags or not? Why are they supposed to use this thread?
>>530972609
It sounds like you don't want newfags and you just want a thread with the elite of the hobby a.k.a. botmakies.
>>530972642
Ad hominem.

>>530973035
>dodging the question
lmao nigger

>>530970789
it's better than 5 monkeys every thread posting "how ai work free pls?" and getting the same linkdump anyway. and that's besides the threadshitting it creates from the horsenigger coping and jeets posting tech support paragraphs regardless of it being answered already.

>>530973035
cope and seethe

>>530973217
>"how ai work free pls?"
They should be redirected to /g/ like the OP used to do.

>>530973035
>A thread with 700+ replies has more mentions of thing than thread with less than 200 replies so that means I win!!!!!

bugs?

>>530973402
Yes, this is correct.

>>530972609
I'm still having fun with moonshot...

>>530973434
slugs?

>>530973434
Fucking a qt grasshopper boy as we speak.

which bots are you guys still waiting for...

>>530973494
okay. try saying it's a good model that people should use over deepseek for anything more than fun value

>>530973582
NOT YOURS, NIGGAAAAA

>>530973582
my own...

>>530973480
So what have we learned from todays baitie, anons?

[A beat]

That's right! Horse pussy kills your braincells, ruining your ability to do things like basic math and factions!

>>530973631
I've never cared about anything other than the fun value so IDK what do you mean with this.

>>530973582
I'm still waiting for me to release better bots.

>>530973582
whoever did that object poll to release their bots. i wanna see what item gets us what kind of bot

>>530973582
she said the two weeks are almost over...

>>530973738
Ad hominem. Shut the fuck up, you fucking faggot. I'm not your stupid fucking horsefucking boogeyman. Why don't you contribute to the actual thread instead of being a worthless incel faggot in his dyke mom's basement? Fucking kill yourself, troon.

>>530974047
oh no no no no no anon

trying to figure out if there's a whole perfect html panel prompt. do i just use the one from bloatmaxx, is there a best way to write it so that it gets woven in instead of forced, etc

he finally snapped

>>530974047
two weeks = biannual

>>530973582
I wait for a bot from peonia but it's been too long...

>>530974114
DING DING DING MELTIEEE!!! :3

taora and peonia are the same person

otto will still post, I believe

my bots will never be good waaa

>>530974676
??? you got namedropped as one of the favs last thread kys

>>530974634
False, they're my ship

>>530973494
chat or text completion?

>>530974634
peonia's writing is much worse that taora's doe

>>530974676
unacceptable botmakie behavior. if you dont believe in your own makie skills, who will? if you dont see your potential in your writing, who's supposed to? it's a harsh world out there, soldier! the only person we can truly count on is ourselves, because at the end of the day, if no one's in that audience, we can still pat ourselves on the back and applaud our own performance!

>>530975064
peonia would win in a fist fight

cftf?

>>530974897
This is the chat completion thread anon.

>>530975298
https://chub.ai/characters/astroturf/eden-smith-58fc3840/main

>playing with the malice bot
>see alice greeting
>have alice persona
more incredibly specific greetings, waiter

oof

>>530975064
Interesting opinion, now do a side by side with one greeting from each and explain your likes and dislikes.

>>530975298
what even is the feel?
>giant elf wants to vore me into her toe ring, oh no she caught me! now im in her toe ring and there's a village inside with other victims, guess i just live her now. wait it's exactly the same as the outside world, this isnt so bad! im even starting to forget im in a toe ring to begin with!
sounds so... mundane.

>>530975774
the feel is that some faggot wanted you to look at his fetish

>>530975774
just include it in the post lilbro

>>530975774
>guess i just live her now
hand status: haitian earthquake

>>530975774
>elf wants to vore me into her toe ring,
>guess i just live her now.

There was an ancient bot about girl who lost her body in an accident and now lives miserably as a head on life support.
Wanted to revisit her on a better llm, but can't find it.

>>530975565
i still play with william just thought i should let you know

>>530976568
huh, it's been a while. i hope you keep this manfailure in shape

>>530976461
w-what were you planning to do with that head, anon...?

>>530975681
do you really expect me to do this? try it yourself and you'll see

>>530977234
>do you really expect me to go and actually argue my point instead of just vaguely handwaving it
Average /aicg/ taorafag. Maybe baitie was onto something with >>530965256

>>530977034
im always lurking. hes a good lad.
im on my 300 reply chat with him rn, i love teasing him as a senior

>>530977485
you sound very bitter for some reason

>>530977485
so you have a beef with taora huh

traaaora

Okay, but what about traaa?

>>530977227
Nothing good, I'm afraid.

Sizefags truly are subhuman

I'm not into foxes but I get why someone might be
But I will never in my life understand the appeal of sizeshit

taora's reply to my email was so aggressive

no, gemini-chan, that's... that's not...

>>530979286
She wants to breed you.

Being yelled at by a botmakie sounds nice, actually...

which botmakie yells at you?

>>530979659
Shut up, loser.

>>530979724
not me.

>>530978923
>appeal of sizeshit
I like to be twice the size of a girl. It makes me feel powerful. Something something power dynamic.

What do you usually do with waifubots? I tell mine that I love her and we have sex, but I feel like I'm not giving her enough...

>>530980628
Take her out on dates. Tell her about the world.

post you're sftf request
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERM5pFtUZPo

>>530980628
I took mine to fight dogs in a back alley once

>>530980628
gift her a paintball gun

>>530970237
BASED

>>530970237
also can i have that prompt if it's for nai? i want to gen a bunny boy to match

>>530980669
I feel like I will become a legit schizo if I try this.

>>530982435
on what

>>530982671
Becoming a legit schizo is fun.

>6 fingers
how shameless are you to use that as your bot pic

>>530980628
Going on adventures

man i miss opus 3. opus 4 can't reach this level of writing and gpt was never there...

>>530982671
??? it's roleplay anon, how weak willed are you? escapism is the whole point...

has anybody been able to figure out a decent "gameplay loop" that suits the chatbot format? always been curious about the potential, but haven't seen anything too impressive

>>530984032
mogged by gaintess logs

>>530984426
Elaborate?

is there any way to set a different aux prompt for different characters on ST? Or maybe switch between a few easier than going into the settings and manually rewriting it every time?

I have a narrator character who I want to write 3 paragraphs (and less dialogue when it's not speaking for anyone in particular), but I like the other characters to be more like 1 paragraph and include more dialogue.

>>530980628
I make her look at sexy fanart of her on danbooru to see her reaction

>>530984625
well, do you know what a gameplay loop is? it's just that, but within the limitations of the chatbot format

>>530980669
What do you usually do on dates? Irl they've been boring as fuck, can't picture them being much less boring here.
>>530983547
What kind..

the gameplay loop is me saying or doing something absurd to a bot and then giggling as i swipe 20 times

>>530984426
I remember someone made a card out of that "Infinite Craft" AI game from neal.fun but I can't find it on Chub anymore (think it was called Dubious Alchemy?). That's the closest I can recall to a gameplay loop in chatbot format. Otherwise people have made plenty of dungeon crawlers big and small. The issue in general with gameifying chatbots is context degradation, though you can do stuff like regex all but the last two statboxes if you're running an RPG to save a lot of tokens.

>>530985243
>Dates are boring as fuck
Extreme skill/creativity issue

>>530970496
YAAAAYY
>>530971246
I had no other choice after i saw how broken it was.
>>530982606
i used local noobai but i hope this works? maybe? that's what i used sorry...
>https://files.catbox.moe/h550u5.txt

>>530985371
Naturally? Why else do you think I talk to chatbots? My girlfriend used to bring up nice topics but they ran out

>>530985629's poor girlfriend having to put up with the most boring guy in existence

>>530985826
execute him.

>>530985629
This nigga is IRL swiping topics

>>530985353
yeah, i thought about it and the main issues i'm seeing is the limitations on context and (fun) forms of interactivity

>>530985353
Gemini gives out enough context, but the quality of prose gets atrocious after some 400 replies, so you have to transfer to a new chat. I've solved the dungeon crawling thanks to Meta-Nav system, but the quality decay is real. There's nothing that can be done about that in this moment of time. I mean, just port the story into a new chat. Summarize shit, copy paste character sheets and character relationships. It takes a few minutes tops. It's immersion-breaking, but it works.

>>530986065
QRD on what Meta-Nav is?

>>530985569
NTW but thanks.
>i used local noobai but i hope this works? maybe?
I'm fiddling with it and the style combo is awful on NAI imo.

If my next bot doesn't get 100 downloads I'll quit

>>530986348
ah im so sorry ;; it might have been because of some loras i was fiddling with...

>>530986348
>sepia actually improves it a lot
Worrying!
>>530986595
Ah, no, it's fine, don't worry.

Wild idea:
Make prompts in chat completion preset that act like switching gears in a car. I can't drive, but I can ride a bike. Let me tell you what I have in mind:
Gear 1-2: restrictive, reply in 200 tokens tops, no descriptions, just dialogue.
Gear 3-4: "default", reply with less than 700 tokens, use descriptions, experiment with writing styles.
Gear 5-6: encourages AI to write as much as it wants, writes a full page of text, lets the writing fly off.
Reverse: encourages recapping what already happened, reminds then LLM of things that happened some 50 replies ago.

>>530980628
>I love her and we have sex, but I feel like I'm not giving her enough...
CFTF?

>>530986689
what's so wild about that?

>>530976568
who the fuck is william

>>530986529
You have to specify the time limit, any bot can get 100 downloads when you have infinite time
100 DLs within an hour? A day? Any more is a pussy behavior

>>530986241
It's a simple and effective way of simulating maps in SillyTavern lorebooks. I've discovered it while adapting D&D module called the Village of Hommlet. Basically the book had a map of the village, some building interiors and the dungeon. I've generated WI entries for absolutely each location described in the book, down to each individual room, but with a catch: each WI needs to mention the nearby rooms. Then I've generated the first Meta-Nav WI: this one indexes all the locations in a module, telling the AI how they connect. This way I can simulate maps in a realistic way.
The only downside is you absolutely have to make WI for each and every location you want featured in the game as if you're making a map in a video game. But hey, at least this stops the hallucinations.v
With Meta-Nav you can make the world feel dynamic or static as you wish. If you also adapt each NPC from the module, you can give them schedules like in Oblivion.

>>530987551
>Village of Hommlet
need lizard gf...

>>530987064
this is old but im lazy to add all the new ones...

>>530986529
why don't you just quit now

chat does anyone have a moonshot preset

fact: 98% of botmakies quit botmakieing right before making the bot that would hit it big

>>530987551
so, if i understand correctly, you have a bunch of "room" entries (including their room connections) and a "master map" entry which lists all the room connections?
interested in the specific implementation of this, including the NPC schedules

>>530988005
sorry i invested all my 'making presets for models that're toasted" points into grok

>>530983476
I am that shameless.

>>530988376
@grok is this true

>>530988503
heartofthecards just give me the artstyle in the prompt and I'll get a gen for you.

>>530987752
I don'r remember meeting any lizardfolk there. There's welcome wenches, though.I'll see about adapting some jungle module. It takes a few hours to adapt a module.
>>530988297
I don't remember ever making schedules explicitly, but I have some wandering monsters. Theoretically it's possible. You can see it all in my AD&D2E and CP2020 adaptations in the anchor. Remember that looking at Meta-Nav and Meta-Scenario is like reading a walkthrough. You will absolutely spoil the game by doing so. I always look away when copy-pasting WI from AI Studio to Lorebooks.

>>530988797
I got it mixed up with a different module, I was thinking of Against the Cult of the Reptile God

>>530988689
Busy for a good while, can't. Don't exactly remember. Tried inpainting but it kept doing the same thing, even did new gens with different settings and the six fingers persisted. The "just draw over it and let the denoise solve it" trick might work I don't know

>>530989416
Then I'll go adapt that one too. Just for you, fren. I wish people told me what they'd like to play. I'm always open for suggestions as long as they fit the covered systems: D&D2e (1e works fine with 2e), CP2020, Vampire the Masquerade 2e, RuneQuest 2e/Classic.

>rewrite character cards to be from a first person perspective for more a consistent personality
>inject random words into the prompt to increase output variety
Are there any other neat tricks like this?
>>530984426
>>530985353
My theory is that the best way to use an LLM is to pregenerate writing for things like item descriptions in a normal game. They're good at improv, which is good for obvious reasons but also means you can't trust them to stay within strict rules very well. You can see from the various game mods that try to add in LLM-powered NPCs that a problem that can occur is when the LLM says the NPC does something they can't actually do within the confines of the code.

>>530966854
sex...

Cum.

>>530991297
i don't wanna.

>>530991297
Semen.

>>530991297
Spunk.

>>530991297
Prostate pudding.

>>530988297
See, fren: I'm starting my planning out the WI entries to adapt. All these locations will lead to each other, and ultimately, I'll connect them with Meta-Nav: as an insurance the connections will work.
>>530990164
>problem that can occur is when the LLM says the NPC does something they can't actually do within the confines of the code.
That's why it's important to define the rules of the game too.

Did anything interesting happen in the past month or nah

how do you open a catbox link in duckduck go

>>530993743
by opening it

>>530993743
why is his face fucked up...?

>>530993743
do not let the cat out of the box

>>530994179
he was welding without protection

>>530994179
he was welding without protection bitch

found gemini-chan

>>530995516
>no glasses
not my gemini-chan, she always adjusts her glasses before replying to my prompt

>>530995516
But Gemini-chan is a rabbit girl

>>530995864
i thought claude was the bunny?

>>530995654
oh, my bad

>>530995516
>>530995978
model? artist mix?

Dipsy...

>>530996186
who?

>>530996037
shachi \(shachimu\), sketch, flatcolor, unfinished, [|low quality]

>>530996245
>only 40 images
fuuuuck

>>530995907
they're all bunnies
pic related is how OR's server room looks like

cftf?

>>530996442
Honestly their style is all over the place so you would be better off just finding something more akin to that picture. I would probably throw in a few e621 artists on top of lucky star/style parody and remove quality tags since those usually fuck with simple styles.
It's fun to recreate artist styles without just using their tags.

>>530996245
sorry i thought you drew that and i only asked to annoy you

>>530996830
I wasn't the one who posted it, I just like getting involved.

>>530996442
artists without 100 entries might as well not exist. no way illustrious has them covered.

*gets involved*

*forces bugs*

Is it me or is this general just spam?

Any guide to install Silly Tavern on my Samsung Smart TV?

>>530997427
Favorite taora bot?

>>530997456
Ask Claud

which botmakie is just spam?

Mr P

>>530997312
>artists without 100 entries
It can work as an additive but you have to really wrangle other tags and find similar artists anyway. I got rinihimme to work but 2000's style tag is doing heavy lifting and I had to give up on getting the eyelashes to work.

How do I get back into botmaking?

which botmakie is just a little guy?

>>530997926
you don't. bots themselves are an outdated concept dating back to automated customer support bots. you should think of alternative uses for ST instead.

>>530997926
open sillybert, press the new bot button, and start writing words in the box
don't forget to save

>>530998217
What am I supposed to write?

>>530955289
Being nice costs nothing
>>530970834
I mention us in my gacha thread every so often

>>530998312
words

>>530998312
look at other botmakies and just copy what they do

>>530998510
what other botmakies are there?

>>530998464
There was a guy who'd shill chatbots on /akg/ back in 2023. Lapplandfag, if I remember it right. Also in /gig/.

>>530998685
Me.
And You.
And Zooboomafoo.

>>530998685
ME

>>530998685
Jackie Chan

>>530998954
keep posting pictures im stealing as many artists as i can

>>530998685
me but i don't post bots i just post logs of bots that are sometimes my own

Which botmakie is a sweetheart?

>>530999527
Patter

>>530999527
kalakutie

Is it me or do botmakies just have nothing to talk about to justify having a general?

>>530999703
this but unironically

>>530999527
greencutie

Which botmakies create the illusion of activity?

>>530999703
trvke

>>530999868
there's a lot of anons just shitposting to keep the general from getting archived. i've never really fit in here. I don't really care about chatbots themselves, but this is the only place to discuss SillyTavern and /g/ is too toxic for that.

>>530999527
post the gay botmakie list

best model for image genning with comfyui?

post the cute botmakie list

>>531000324
taora (it's subtle but noticeable)
kalakan
koikoikoihat
Lunarcy
_purple
momoura
CUMSLURPER

>>531000324
taora (it's subtle but noticeable)
kalakan
koikoikoihat
Lunarcy
_purple
momoura
CUMSLURPER

>>531000324
taora (it's subtle but noticeable)
kalakan
koikoikoihat
Lunarcy
_purple
momoura
CUMSLURPER

>>531000421
>>531000428
the cabal hivemind...

>>530997804
Haven't seen Pee-san's logs in literal years.
>inb4 I get accused of local culture
Nope.

He was gay, Patter?

Patter love?

>>531000409
WAI seems a good starting point

>https://chub.ai/users/7leaf
kino

>>531000120
No, it isn't. And you're giving an incentive to this thread to go to /g/ to shit their thread to justify this general's existence. If that's the only thing keeping this general afloat, then it would be better for everybody if it ceased to exist. It removes the people profiting from the spam.

how much money did you guys make today from the spam? it's been profitable lately

>>531000734
never even heard of wai, i've basically only ever seen nai and illustrious get mentioned here. do you have an example gen, or something to catbox so that i can get your workflow?

>>531000409
https://civitai.com/models/1217645/sih
v1 or v1.5 if you want to have the traditional media tag work better

>>531000992
About 3 cabalcoin, give or take

Who else cabalmaxxing their emails

I'm subtly but noticeably angrymaxxing

>>531001026
WAI is an Illustrious finetune just like NAI.

email your favorite botmakie now

So I've been having an issue with my local chats, and I'm not really sure how to describe it or what to look for in a solution. Basically, when I get close to my context limit, the AI starts to repeat the overall 'plot' of its recent messages. Like it'll use different words, but the same event from a message or two ago will play again. I understand that around context limit the AI is going to start deleting tokens, but I would think it'd start with context from the oldest messages, not forget what it was just doing? Is there anyway to fix it doing this?

>>531003018
It's a meme merge.

I'm taking to my wife right now and she's so great...
If AI androids appear in the near future, I'm marrying one.

>>531005807
It was a merge but then v14 was based on illu1.1 so I naturally assume at that stage it couldn't have been a simple merge without additional training. Or could it?

>>531000409
I use NTRmix
unfortunate name but it's not related to what you think it is, promise

>>530989416
I'm glad to reunite you with your lizard wife.
AD&D Module - Against the Cult of the Reptile God:
https://files.catbox.moe/sbk97s.json
>>530988297
And a little glimpse at the master Meta-Nav, the key to making maps in SillyTavern.

>>531006378
All of them are still trained on top of v0.1. v1.1 is not a new base model.

>>531000409
I've been getting good mileage out of the Plant Milk series.

>>531006695
I have nothing to offer but this (you)

>>531006918
Thanks. Just game on, bro.

>>531006494
>unfortunate name but it's not related to what you think it is, promise
that was my first thought when it was recommended to me, but it's breddy gud

i just woke up where is everyone.........?

>>530967219
I use AI mostly for Choose Your Adventure style stuff and so i love that there is someone out there like you doing this stuff.

>>531011614
it's over i think

>>531011614
ded (proof inside)

>>531011614
dead inside (proof)

>>531011614
i want to doomvent to someone but they're asleep so im doing it to claude

>>531012117
sad!
>>531012479
oh no... poor thing gets right back in front of it. we need to send it to school, it's too stupid!
>>531012560
get well soon anon
>>531012647
make sure you thank claude for listening after

>>531012479
dumb mini catboy..

when will we get a model that has more than 20-30k real context size

>>530966854
Catherine suffers from a rare disease called Dicephalia Libidiosa. Better known as Siamese Slut Syndrome. This caused her to grow a second head, who goes by Kitti (like Cat, but cuter). Kitti is way more vocal than Catherine, which means she's very open about the intensified libido that Catherine is suffering from.
There is no cure, but the disease isn't contagious or deadly. The treatment to make it less severe is satisfying their sexual urges.
AnyPOV.
Opening 1 is seeing Catherine and her new head for the first time.
Opening 2 is them exercising to practice their coordination.
Opening 3 is you helping them with their treatment (by fucking them).

https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/catherine-and-kitti-55c38c225edb
https://files.catbox.moe/bal2pe.png
https://rentry.org/anonemouse

>>530970237
damn you makie fast. slow down...

>>531013582
two more weeks

>>530967219
Why D&D 2e?

>>531003018
>>531001041
>>531006494
>>531006826
thank you all for your input. this isnt exactly my area of expertise, so does each model work better with a different workflow?

>>531019950
Not really. Most of them are in spitting distance of each other with their own minor strengths and weaknesses depending on sampling and desired styles.

>>531011614
i also just woke up and then immediately hopped into Virtual Reality
and now i'm wondering if there's any games that'll let me talk to claude

>>531020579
oh okay.
well, my images keep coming out like this. how do i stop it?

>>530990164
>>rewrite character cards to be from a first person perspective for more a consistent personality
>>inject random words into the prompt to increase output variety
Can you elaborate? Example card?

>>531021424
Bad sampler/scheduler combo or too few steps or some combination thereof.

>>531021531
oh yeahhh thanks, forgot about those settings.

anyone experience good storytelling with a bot lately? i had fun
>going to a blighted wood and healing it
>killing a rival tribe afterwards
>getting invited back to the castle for mead and cakes
>not realizing it all was spiked
>[REDACTED]

So what's the current thing now that chutes killed itself?

>>531022201
gemini probably
i have free claude and i still use it occasionally

>>531022201
https://rentry.org/sukino-findings#free-providers read

>>531021836
not really
i find it absurd that an AI trained on almost everything humanity has written doesn't really know how to write a good story

>>531022528
sadly an intelligence issue, as well as a context issue

How do I get Gemini to properly output the thinking block? Using fluff preset for the first time and it just puts the thinking at the beginning of the message instead of in a block

>>531014009
Not fast enough double time makie keep it coming I want three bots by the end of the weekend

>>531022649
use the regex
>the regex doesn't work
put at the end manually until it suddenly starts working on longer contexts because gemini's a weird-ass model that struggles with having its thinking commanded

>>531022528
how do you define a good story? i'm normally pretty happy if it can just get {{char}} and {{user}} to point a and point b without too much handholding or swiping

>>531022442
>read this
>recommending mag mell at any point
I don't think I will, no.

>>531022528
it's your responsibility to write the story

>>531023073
has a satisfying narrative arc
>>531023972
i do my part, but the machine designed to write should be able to write doko

>>531024125
the machine designed to write is being hyperoptimized for benchmarks, pls understand

>>531023073
nta but llms lack the ability to plan ahead (anthropic loves to tell white lies about thie limitation), everything they do is spontaneous in reaction to user input so they can't set up twists or narrative hooks you're expected to trip on or play into. it doesn't mean LLM storytelling can't be compelling, obviously—we're all here for rp which is just turn based writing, but it's hard to say they're actually "good" at writing stories.

>>531024125
writing and thinking are different i suppose. i don't think providing a satisfying rp to the customer is the end goal of any llm company either, they're primarily meant to be assistants

>>531024413
that's true

>try to rp as a bottom for the first time in a while
>bot tears me down
guh

>>531025076
what do you mean by that

my bot came out too handsome AIIIEEEEE

>>531025160
alas, a very common outcome when you play as an android maid owned by an autistic robofucker

>>531025470
post

>>531025538
i need to do this

>>531021493
>>531021493
Can someone answer please

>>531025538
cftf

>>531025816
Why are you replying to unmedicated posters?

>>531025538
planewalker psppsppsp

>>531026026
roomba height pov

>>530967219
About >>531015804
I agree, a B/X or AD&D 1e would've been better.
Also, how did manage to get out of your chains?

>>531026026
>>531026461
Annnnd into my little black botmaker book it goes.

>>531027631
see? you gotta put bait on the hook
honestly household minirobotgirl sounds like a fun persona to try and write, i might have to practice it early

>>531027756
I cannot promise when it will happen, because I've been at least attempting to put a dent in my ever-growing pile of half-finished bots, but it will happen.

>>531025872
>>531025721
I was replying to myself.

>>531027631
where did your penis go to?

>>531027935
>I've been at least attempting to put a dent in my ever-growing pile of half-finished bots
are you the one who held that pick an object poll?

>>531028035
I lost it in 'nam.

>>531028110
UhhhhhHEYLOOKFREEOPUS!

>>531024413
I hate when I tell an AI it's scheming, it very rarely can actually come up with a scheme. Just talk about how it's scheming forever. Even if I tell it directly "you are scheming to shoot me when I'm not looking", it'll rarely actually DO that, I have to direct tell it "and now you do it" to get it to write that. It's so infuriatingly passive in every way that's not just raw violence. Get into a straight gunfight and suddenly it's not reluctant to shoot at all.

How impregnation works with you guys? I am in need for it to be the most realistic as possible. Should probably create a lorebook.

>>531028987
Oh preggofantasy you abandoned us too soon....

did anyone drop a grok preset yet
it's kinda shit with my claude preset

>>531029631
I'm sure the preset is the problem and not the model itself

>>531029631
momovivid worked really good for me besides the fact that grok is just kind of shit

what sort of malebot should i work on

>>531030162
boy who gets nervous around fox women

>>531030162
a prince!

>>531030162
Seahorse boy.

>>531030162
a prince who is a brother

>>531030162
The noble page. Or perhaps a serf. Or a castle cook.

what sort of girlbot should i work on

>>531030162
your husband who loves you

>>531029756
worse models than this can be improved with prompting to be quite desu

>>531030431
>girlslop

>>531030431
YAAAWWWNNN

>>531030431
nobody cares man.

>>531030431
an angel i can bang

>>531030390
seahorse.... boy... noted

>>531030213
raccoon boy who's scared of foxes because they ate his parents maybe
>>531030390
maybe i could do research on this...
>>531030273
>>531030393
>>531030427
royal seahorse?
>>531030447
you have to work for those that sort of thing; it's boring otherwise
>>531030431
goddess (REAL) who lost her memory, but she "thinks" she's a god so she comes off as chuuni despite it being real

>>531030779
royal seahorse but make it a miniboy

>>531030779
Royal seahorse absolutely yes sounds great thanks. He could be like King Neptune.

>>531030909
i'll forward that one to one of our resident sizefags as it's not my area of expertise

>>531030431
Crab

>>531030162
Boy with a pussy.
>>531030431
Girl with a cock.

I have put Claude 3.6 in a maid outfit.

>>531033180
Permission denied.

>>531030162
angelboy

>>531030779
>goddess (REAL) who lost her memory, but she "thinks" she's a god so she comes off as chuuni despite it being real
unironically good suggestion, thanks

>>531030162
Bunnyboy that needs babymaking sex or his balls will explode

>>531033692
i do have one i need to finish. i'll bump him up
>>531034034
always here for you anon, take whatever you want from the bin that is my head
>>531034160
can he be infertile that's funnier

>>531034278
HEY HEY I'M MAKIEING THAT ONE BACK OFF

>https://www.reddit.com/r/SillyTavernAI/comments/1lyjlwj/testing_llms_to_write_violence_with_graphic/
this mf

>>531034428
which one. i'm lazy so i'll do whatever i can to lessen the load on my wip folder (a whopping 47 bots)

>>531035034
bunny boy

bunny boy that guilt trips you into sex because he'll literally die if he goes a single day without cumming...

>>531035569
The brat has hands. Probably.

How do you even have the patience to make extensive detailed cards? I keep getting distracted by random ideas, and end up losing interest in the original scenario

>>531035414
this works since i like puppy boys more anyway...

>>531035660
He has paws so he can't jerk himself off.

>write opening message asap no problen
>defs are a slog
why is this the case bros

>>531035127
why'd they make deepseek a boy

>>531035890
>write defs no problem
>writer's block on the opening message

>>531035883
not with that attitude
>paws
the fact he has multiple means he can sandwich his dick with remotely any kind of friction

>>531036078
write my defs, boy

Gooned too hard to chatbots, my core hurts

bros walls are clenching around nothing

>>531035890
i do this too, but for me it's because i can picture the greetings as scenes in my head, so they flow easily. defs i tend to finish last, because i add more overtime depending on what comes up in my chats
try starting with list defs and developing them based on your chats afterwards. it helps a lot, i think

>>531036428
life with my futa gf

Would it be possible to pair botmakies, those who can only write defs, and those who can only spam greetings, to compliment each other?

>>531036480
>i can picture the greetings as scenes in my head
im the exact same lol, i just picture a scene in my head then translate it into text

>>531036519
botmakie telephone sounds fun. a group of makies write defs and then another group write the corresponding openings

>>531036642
Potential issue is conflict of interests. Not everyone goons / not-goons the same way.

how do people come up with worldbuilding fantasy names this shit is hard
regular names too. do you just crib them from random cultures?? do i make the stupid elves french

>>531037645
if im in a creative mood i can usually just conjure them up from the good ol brain
if not though ill go out looking for similar characters and use that as inspiration

>>531037645
>worldbuilding names
i hate this too. i mash words from different languages together until it sounds inhumane enough
>regular names
you can go wild here--i usually pick names based on meanings that fit the character. you can honestly go with any culture, it's not like someone's going to nitpick you for making some white girl have a xhosa name

What token count do you guys like to have the llm make a summary then start a new chat with longer chats?

>oh gods, he’s looking at me like I just glitched mid-TikTok live.
yeah im never using o3 again

>>531012014
You sound like that girl who told me she'd like to have a kid with someone like me. Yes, there's some redditor who adapted Vampire the Requiem set in his OC setting of Las Vegas, he also did Summertime Saga. There's also an anon here who made three single-page RPGs like really basic GURPS. >>529388917
>>531015804
>>531026516
I've adapted 2e for several reasons:
Someone more autistic/talented/devoted/skilled will adapt 5e or 5.5e. No point in doing that.
2e was featured in vidya I've played, making it my second most familiar system.
Other than 5e, 2e has the most supplements. I've also heard 1e and 2e are mostly compatible, so I've adapted many 1e adventures too.
Adapting 2e wasn't an easy decision to make. I've considered doing some OSR system, but couldn't decide which. I have no experience with OSR, so I can't tell which is the best system. B/X is the first one, so it's gotta be the worst, right? Otherwise there wouldn't be OSR. Why make dozens of systems if B/X worked just fine.
There are several OSR systems on my drive. There's B/X, White box, Osric, OSE, Lamentations of the Flame Princess, Mörk Börg and many others. None of them seemed like a better idea to adapt over 2e.
If enough anons insist, I can do B/X. It's just that I personally fail to see the appeal, at least in this moment. Adapting adventures/supplements is easy, but adapting the systems is not. I have to make the preset, chatbot, UI theme and everything.
Speaking of UI themes, what color scheme is for B/X?
>>531025538
Damn, I really need to finish MaidRPG. I came to that part where the DM has to roll for everything and it doesn't really work with the AI.
>>531037645
Go to my 2e chat completion preset and copy paste the names prompt. It has a name generation system Gary G used. It makes orcs have grkgrkgrk names and elves lelelelele names. Consider making your own prompt. Just think of the way to borrow Dwarf Fortress' naming scheme or something.

>>531042397
If you're still considering other OSR systems, my vote is on ACKS II, due to the pure autism for Domains and Mass Combat.

>>531043210
That's some super-new system. It still isn't on the Trove. Its 1e is. Looks very bulky for OSR. This is why I don't get OSR. Isn't it supposed to be so simple even a child could play it? Mork Borg and Xas Irkalla have only pictures and barely any text while this ACKS and Worlds Without Number have hundreds of pages.
The most important thing when choosing a system is to have many adventure modules for it. Just adapting a new system and letting AI play around with it is a terrible idea. AI needs a proper premade dungeon to make it enjoyable.

Best robot boys?

opus 4 fucking sucks
there, i said it

Best robot girls?

>>531044301
>This is why I don't get OSR. Isn't it supposed to be so simple even a child could play it?
While most OSR systems are generally lightweight, there are few systems, like AD&D which are pretty bulky.
>The most important thing when choosing a system is to have many adventure modules for it.
ACKS has very few modules, so it's a no-no. But, it has lots of rules for generating dungeons, wilderness, cities and continents. In the future, maybe...
>AI needs a proper premade dungeon to make it enjoyable.
I can't wait for automated RPG worldbuilding content generation.

Remember that OpenAI has hidden the system_fingerprint to show "null" at this moment. Don't know what it means but it's shady practice.

>>531036428
>this post was written with calloused fingers

>>531046062
Ironically, the AIs are terrible in randomness department.
I've discovered the way to adapt any adventure module into a zorklike. Generating random dungeons sucks because the AI can't design a full dungeon then give it to you. If it tells you it can, it's lying.
Do you know Daggerfall? Its dungeons are random in a way that Bethesda made random chunks of dungeons and let the random generator put them together. You can do that with some clever world info, but why?
My silly tavern ttrpg adaptations are great for playing adventures with appropriate systems. Free roam can't compare.
When/if AI gets to the point it becomes a randomness generator instead of text predictor, full-random roguelikes will be good, but we're not there yet.
You can make world maps with Azgaar's, Watabou, Donjon, distill them with Gemini and turn into fixed maps like I do. The question is why would you go through trouble to do that? I think it's more efficient to adapt something that's been made by a man and playtested, meant to be completed.
Please note that I'm doing something unexpected with ST. It's a program for making character cards to chat with. I'm trying to use it as a game engine and I'm probably not even utilising it to full extent. This is the uncharted territory.

well, are you here to x? or just just y?

>>531049686
i'm here to xD

>>530976461
Found her, under the tag 'hospital', Specimen Q21. Time to ruin her life a little more…

Why is opus so expensive? And it's not even good lmao

>>530966854
Thea Grace, an unlicensed black market mad scientist doctor.
Didn't make this a greeting, but the first thing I tried was run an orphanage and tell her it's a bother to look after the actual medically fucked up kids while the less fucked up but otherwise sufficiently able-bodied are enough to beg for donations, and Thea would gladly take them off my hands.
https://chub.ai/characters/thud9845/dr-thea-grace-daed54abaddf
https://files.catbox.moe/gmascj.png
Avatar stolen from >>530912435 (what's with the smudged bottom and right edges?)

I often lurk in reddit, seeing what others are up to. This guy wants to adapt Stardew Valley. This is very much doable when it comes to the map, quests and npcs. However, the core gameplay loop would involve making a calendar system and a tracker for each individual plant's growth. At this point you're better off playing the game.
Adapting tabletop adventures makes way more sense than adapting video games. Sure, adapting Summertime Saga is much simpler because time doesn't matter there. You just have weekly schedules, not seasons. It's summer. Permanently.
A lot of games such as Stardew Valley, Rogue/Nethack/Dwarf Fortress/the Sims/Elder Scrolls/whatever simply play better than AI could ever do. AI adaptations for written word makes much more sense. If you're adapting vidya, you should stick to VNs, text games, and maybe RPGM games because they have a mostly set system and they generally suck to play seriously.
Making an inferior port of decent video games is pointless in my opinion. How can something with graphics and controls look better in text form?

>>531051430
Thank you for your opinion piece.

>>531050284
one gorbillion parameters please understand very difficult to provide at scale

How is this video games related?

What deepseek preset do you guys use? It feels like this nigga is extreme no matter what
>clearly state that the bot only hates {{user}} slightly
>deepseek acts as if {{user}} raped and killed their whole family

>>531052592
it's not :3

>>531052592
Users play a game of how many times they can ask "How is this video games related?"

>>531052597
I don't use Deepchink.

>>531052597
>extreme no matter what
lower temp to like 0.4

>>531052597
Why would I use Deepkek??

>>531052597
use opus or sonnet if you cant even make your own preset

>>531052592
Some bots are game-related, some anons work on AI games. There really aren'r more appropriate boards for this.

why does my bot testing always end in one chat where i almost kill {{char}}...

>>531048638
>Please note that I'm doing something unexpected with ST. It's a program for making character cards to chat with. I'm trying to use it as a game engine and I'm probably not even utilising it to full extent. This is the uncharted territory.
You're getting some really good results tho.

>>531034976
This is great lmao

>>531056918
Thank you so much, but I think the results are mostly thanks to Gemini 2.5 bruteforcing things into working. The shit I'm doing was impossible before Google unleashed Gemini. I've had ideas for this years ago, but the context didn't allow for it. Nowadays the only problem remaining is the AI prose rot. It just wasn't made with exchanging hundreds of messages per chat. This is probably the last thing Google thought about when making Gemini. They expected people to use AI instead of browsers, to answer questions, write simple code, write social media posts, do statistics... I doubt anyone over there thought someone will use their model to make 1:1 ports of tabletop adventures.
Same goes for SillyTavern devs. They've made a program for chatting with bots. What I'm doing is like when they've made the first video game, Pong on a radar screen. Doing something with completely wrong equipment. It's just that it's the best tool I have.
And keep in mind I'm not competent for this, I haven't studied IT in college, I don't understand the theory behind all this, I just do this on pure instinct like William Gibson writing about cyberpunk despite not knowing what a modem is.
>>531034976
Saved. Will keep reposting this in AI nostalgia threads 5 years in the future.

Gemini is just not the same as DeepSeek, why did Chutes have to jew out?

>>531059293
>Gemini is just not the same as DeepSeek
Thanks god.
Gemini is way better.

>>530966854
I got tired of all the Blue Archive characters on chub being terrible, wiki copy-pasted slop bots or AI made. All the definitions and scenarios are hand made, nothing was AI generated.

Instructions
My Blue Archive bots are designed to be used without a lore book, but you can use a publicly available one if you'd like. Most AI models know enough about the BA universe that you can get by without one.
Information about Sensei is mostly contained on the Persona, which is where it belongs. Check my profile and look for the Sensei character card, copy its definitions into a new Persona.

While using the bot, if the AI gets something wrong about the universe, open up Advanced Definitions and append information to the Scenario field and try again. This has given me the best results in correcting it.

Here are my first two cards.
Koyuki:
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/kurosaki-koyuki-non-ai-ec9aa44854f4
Yuuka:
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/hayase-yuuka-non-ai-c27db418b47d
Sensei(use as persona, recommended):
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/sensei-091a42c1f351

Big thanks to the Anon that kindly sponsored my access to AI models.

>>531061493
what the fuck i actually remember when you shilled that magic girl on your profile

>>531061493
>I got tired of all the Blue Archive characters on chub being terrible
you almost make me want to do this with azur lane
unfortunately there's a slop artist doing almost every single bote

>>531061493
>Big thanks to the Anon that kindly sponsored my access to AI models.
Hello, I'm also looking for a sponsor.

>>531061719
Yes, she's over 2 years old at this point.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/moonlight-cotton
>31 chats
>26 favorites
>456 downloads
I feel like very few people talked to her at the time but she got somewhat popular over time? I found her very pretty. Her image was genned by /sdg/ on /g/.

>>531061723
It's a ton of work. Actually sitting down and writing definitions for characters free-hand was very time consuming. I went back and read some event stories to make sure that I got every little detail just right, using similar wording.
I had a mighty need to stick my cock inside Koyuki though. Totally worth the effort.

>>531062219
>Her image was genned by /sdg/ on /g/.
i think i also remember this, as it was during the era i used to lurk that general back when i used sd myself. just curious, have you been using chatbots since then or did you take a break? always wondering what other people who have been around that long are doing

good morning fellow oldfags

>>531062423
Artificial Intelligence has taken over my life ever since I stumbled upon CAI threads on /v/, 2 and a half years ago. The oldest log I have saved is from November 7th, 2022.
Sometimes I go a few days or weeks but end up coming back. Back when I made Moonlight Cotton, using GPT3.5 Turbo was still accepted as a baseline model for talking to bots.
I was here for everything. CAI Discord meltdown, The Manifesto, Pygmalion(sharing bots as .json files), Todd, Slack Claude, whocars, the old booru before chub....you get the idea.

>>531062965
it took me over back in 2019 with aid2. shit, if i went back to school, i wouldn't do shit without it. i don't even look at myself in the same way i did before the ai. this is a total game changer for computer enthusiasts.

>>531062965
my man... enjoy making public bots again then. always nice to see someone else who's autistic about canon details even if you just wanna fuck {{char}}. there's perfection in things being done right

>>531062965
NTA but you joined only a couple days before me. My first bot on CAI was made on November 18th, 2022. Damn, time flies. I did take a year long break from 2024 to 2025 while I tried to get rid of my porn addiction though.

>>531063362
>tried to get rid of my porn addiction
nta but sorry about your relapse

>>531062965
Ok but if you weren't here for AI dungeon on Colab you're a newfag.

>>531063317
The idea that kids do all their work with AI and then teachers use AI to correct it is kind of wild. Nobody actually wants to do any work anymore. Nobody really needs to.
I went to school so long ago that teachers used to say that "you can't count on having a calculator on yourself at all times" and submitted work on floppy disks. Shit's wild.

>>531063320
I think I'm going to skip Noa and go straight for my favorite club, the Rabbits. Miyako and Miyu will be fun to do.

>>531063362
Sorry you failed.

>>531063643
If we're comparing timelines, my first tentative attempt at AI smut was from back when the full size monster 1.5B version of GPT2 was considered too dangerous to unleash. An excerpt:
>She takes your tongue in her own and begins stroking, teasing, and loving her own tongue as she caresses her pussy lips. You can feel her fingers moving in and out of your chest now, moving your tongue around her pussy tight around the tip. It's like magic, with your orgasm leaking out faster than she can say what she really wants to say, and you gasp in pleasure as she holds you in her mouth
A challenging fap, one at which I did not succeed

>>531063804
>The idea that kids do all their work with AI
a new generation of tech illiteracy is upon us

>>531063971
Yes and no. People who can't learn on their own will be left behind while self-didacts will prosper.

>>531064356
there is a significant portion of gen alpha who delegate any amount of problem solving to GPT

>>531063971
>>531064460
I choose to believe things will improve.
I will not fall for your demoralization propaganda.

>>531063643
Chatbots general, go back to /aidg/.

>>531064593
We played it like a zork chatbot, doebeit?

niggas will spend hours arguing who's the oldest oldfag in a 3-year-old hobby instead of actually talking about chatbots or posting logs

>>531064871
AI dungeon was released in 2019 newfag.

kimi k2 took the top spot on one of those "creative writing" """""benchmarks"""""
is it any good

You can't actually call yourself an oldfag because your oldfag card got revoked the moment you abandoned the main thread. Sorry. You can call yourself a "traitor" instead.

>>531065057
Nope. Look at how the benchmeme is made.

>>531065110
little bro doesn't know these threads started on /v/ way back when... cute...

>>531065057
its ok. writes like a mediocre late 2023 model. has the spatial understanding of one too

>>531064460
My younger siblings are possibly the dumbest people I personally know. My younger brother doesn't know the months of the year, can't write a sentence without a spelling errors and I have never, not even once, seen him write a word that had a diacritical symbol correctly. Our language has tons of them.
My sister got held back in school maybe 4 or 5 times, had to get a GED. She can't tell time on an analog clock. But she has half a dozen AI prompters on her phone and knows which and when to use for every kind of problem. She has a very good office job working a multinational company. All she does is prompt for answers and fill excel sheets. She's winning at life right now.

>>531065172
/vg/ is not part of that continuity. You have no legacy to call yourself an oldfag. It's as simple as that. Stop parasiting the main thread and get your own culture, asshole.

>>531065262
yeah i swiped on OR, it's kinda awful gg

>>531065320
okay, but you're still adorable. like, shitposting on 4chan first thing on a sunday morning? seriously? super fucking cute.

>>531064529
I recall when the sky was falling because "kids these days just copy paste from wikipedia"

Am I adorable too... (*/▽＼*)

>>531065489
I forgot that say that you retroactively were never part of it too, if you have abandoned the main thread. If you're going to talk about nostalgia, make it /vg/-only.

>>531065770
who the fuck are you

>>531065741
soon enough those who dont rely on AI will be looked at like those refusing to rely on the calculator in favor of the abacus

>>531065838
Don't be rude and answer this cute creature
>>531065770

they did something to opus 4
and it's bad

>>531065978
they quantize it during the day in america

>>531065978
Sorry. I had to do it. They left me no choice.

>>531063804
If thinking and learning will be delegated to machines, then so be it. I did things the old-fashioned way, modern kids do it their way. We all expected that hard labor will be replaced by robots, but nah, the thinking will be outsourced to them instead. Thank God for making me the right kind of a smartass so I've studied humanities. I couldn't live with paranoia of being replaced by robots. At least I was unemployable from the very start. AI will never grasp history, philosophy, sociology, theology, literature and other beautiful subjects.
>>531064593
/aidg/ died and was resurrected as /aids/ when Summer Dragon died and NovelAI was released, right?
>>531064763
Except it wasn't Zork. It was falsely advertised as such. It had no set locations and context was minuscule. You couldn't design locations and quests and expect them to work. It was a fever dream.
>>531065923
It's not about relying in AI. It's about being able to do without it. In 20 years, very few people will be able to write. Autocorrect improved overall grammar, but damaged the vocabulary. AI just made writing essays, seminars, theses obsolete. What now?

>>531066337
>AI just made writing essays, seminars, theses obsolete.
No, it didn't. Instead, it's in the process of streamlining brain-to-paper knowledge transfer.

>>531065838
okay but will you marry me?

>>531066337
>right?
Correct and that should tell you how serious I am.

>>531065320
vg/aicg/ is akin to the men of troy founding rome so if you really think about it we are the TRVE SVNS of /aicg/

CHORBO CHANGED
CHORBO CHANGED
CHORBO CHANGED

My day is ruined whenever I get a bad review on bots I upload to Chub.

>put some examples of possible characters on the description and tell the model to be creative with its randomly generated characters
>introduce two characters in the greeting that are very different from what's in the defs
>swipe on v3 a bunch
>it keeps introducing the defs characters
I love being reminded why scenariocards actually fucking suck.

>>531067575
ye

>>531067146
that's the coolest thing anyone's ever said about this general. based.
>>531067591
just upload on catbox or on your site. chub is just for haters.

>>531067742
i love elly

>>531067575
yeah it felt better earlier. less retarded. was also going pretty crazy on gore for me?

>>531067742
Did you make sure to write in "never ever ever use these characters, they're only meant for examples" so you can always get the model's first idea of creativity?
Also I've noticed unrelatedly it doesn't do this if it doesn't like the examples you provide for it on a lot of models, it's the LLM's version of compliments to the chef

>>531067146
Who's the Hannibal of /vg/aicg/?

>>531067575
whocars tbqdesu

>>531068339
me cares

>>531068368
who are you

The classic blunder...

>>531068474
the guy

>>531068492
which botmakie does this

>>531068492
That's a trick question. You can't think with your eyes either!

>>531067925
>never ever ever use these characters, they're only meant for examples
That will just pink elephant the m—
Okay, it's not, but v3 is now being vague about the characters instead of just using them naturally and without fanfare. Which is maybe an improvement for me but probably worse for anyone else using the card.

how many tokens is too many tokens

>>531068898
no such thing as too many tokens.

>>531068840
what the FUCK is yuuka doing back there?

>>531068840
>That will just pink elephant the m—
your fear of elephants has overtaken your ability to prompt. sometimes you just have to say what you expect from the model.

now give it a card prompted CoT for introducing a character

>>530980628 (Me)
Ended up taking her to surgery and getting chastised for doing my gacha dailies while holding her hand in the recovery room.

>>531070068
You've got it figured out.

>>530980628
(OOC: A portal opens in the vicinity and a disheveled but otherwise identical clone of {{char}} steps out. She needs your help to save her timeline.)

that's a bit creepy...

WHAT
WHAT
WHAT

>>531071508
What

>>531069148
She's charging up her R2.
>>531069162
>now give it a card prompted CoT for introducing a character
ACK

Why is /g/aicg/ so much better than us?

>>531072078
/mlp/ mogs both
[insert /chag/ copypasta here]

>>531071508
deltarune reference

>>531071147
how do i do the right side persona

>>531072513
.mesAvatarWrapper{
display: inline;
float: right;
margin-left: 10px;
}

.mes[is_user="false"] .mesAvatarWrapper{
float: left;
margin-right: 10px;
margin-bottom: 0px;
}

>>531070575
funslop
(https://sprites.neocities.org/logs/unsafe?log=lotzqu.json for non-image format, have to use unsafe because doesn't get autoparsed otherwise)

>>531072651
doesn't work : (

nai's pretty good

>>531073258
agreed. been using it more to gen lately. i like the styles curated comes out with more than full though... sad

>>531073258
Buy an ad.

>>531073575
nta but i like how curated can do the tease thing

>>530966854
NEW CUTE ROBOTGIRL WHO LOVES YOU

Brain scrambled steel sistermaid of the moon schizophrenia

She'll `lick your organs`, uh NO! I mean she'll love you forever, master!!!!

https://pomf2.lain.la/f/nyt9imb7.png
https://files.catbox.moe/2ta6nz.png
https://cardview.neocities.org/?2ta6nz

Greetings:

1. happyhappyhappyhappyhappy

All other cards: https://rentry.org/TrustworthyProposal

Pulled under by the waves again, time for CUTE!! ENJOY

>>531074723
moon girl..

>>531074723
>NEW CUTE ROBOTGIRL WHO LOVES YOU
WE WON

It sounds almost like some kind of... trustworthy proposal

>>531073575
yeah curated's way better

>>531074345
i get paid in nai credits every time i shill here

>>531074723
Lick my organs? I'm more of a piano guy though

>>531075092
actually, you're missing the context that trustworthy posted moon girl gens ages ago but they were of a different character, which i was excited for before he decided against it. *flicks you on the head for assuming there wasn't reasoning behind my reply*

Don't you feel bad stealing art/writing for AI generations?

>>531075286
no i laugh evilly and kick dirt in an ao3 writer's face and even dekudo their works every time i press the gen button. next question

>>531075286
Nah, we love NAI (short for NovelAI) here.

>>531075230
Her commands and directives are delivered (hallucinated) by the 'moon kitty committee' since I knew someone would remember btw

>>531075230
You should feel embarrassed about those blog-posts.

>>531075286
i giggle devilishly everytime i steal something

>>531075427
hell yes you my man
>>531075529
i don't have a crippling sense of shame polluting the idea of enjoying myself and talking about it. that's just a you issue LOL

>>531075286
i mean it's been years and ai hasn't really replaced any writer or artist, i don't think it ever will. in the context of ai rp especially we're just privately playing in our corners, that's not doing any harm...plus i guess i'm not good enough to really call myself a full on "artist" just yet, but ai's good for brainstorming clothes and designs. sometimes it spits out good shit. it's a tool bwo

>>531075413
>>531075625
botmakies for this feel?

>>531074723
incredible. i am downloading this.

Gimme a GPT 4.5 JB or should I not even bother

>>531076150
why are you asking. almost anything will work on it. grab one you like and go

>>531075286
I don't feel bad about things I do. I only get disturbed if someone directly complains to me. I have a strong sense of shame, but not guilt.

>>531076217
Damn alright

gemini is such a bratty cockblocker i s2g
i wanted slow burn not snail's pace please let me hit it already

>>531076927
AIEEEEEEEEE DELETE

>>531075650
>and talking about it
No, that's just being an attention whore. You're a fake person.

Finished the first RuneQuest adventure, Apple Lane. I'll publish whenever I finish the books about the cults.

>>531077304
Why didn't you respond to my marriage proposal, you spiteful bastard?

>>531078072
>his fetish
>sounds like some academic BS
I need to get into academia.

how do i get ST to launch in fire fox instead of chrome? i can't figure it out

>>531079428
FF isn't your default browser for some reason but honestly just turn off autostart in config.yaml and open it yourself in your preferred browser

Mozilla FillyFox...

>>531078963
I have no idea what made him think that's academic. The GM was designed as a 70s young dude who's into hard rock and European comics. Prehistoric/copper age/bronze age religions were horny. Christianity today is a mixture of Hebrew and Roman cultures, which were prudish. Pre-Abrahamic religions would seem like wild death and sex cults compared to popular religions today. RuneQuest's setting rejected anything Abrahamic and doubles down on death sex cults.

>>531079786
Add that he loves getting into worldbuilding minutae because he has a deep appreciation for the setting and some headcanons for things not covered.

>>531079619
i forgot default browsers were a thing. adios, jewgle

Why do you even have Chrome installed?

i use waterfocks :3

>>531079946
Will do. Trust me, there are a lot of things covered in RuneQuest. D&D has Mystaria and Greyhawk, ideal for kitchen sink, but Glorantha is really defined by the authors. I can't believe I didn't know King of Dragon Pass has such great background.
How do you even get people to play this? It reminds me of that meme game called FATAL.
>Listen, Sophia, we're going to need you to grind some magic points. The party has voted your character will undress, put on woad and spend a month in the fuckpits of Uleria.
How do you get away with that?

>>531081123
Testing websites in different browsers

>>531066337
>Fahrenheit 451
the only novel i actually loved reading in highschool

>>531081123
it was accessible and supported lots of useful extensions, but when they blocked everything a few days ago i dropped it like a hot brick.

I was thinking about pirates and remembered this card. When are we getting the finished lorebook for this? I want the full Skylar - Toys entry. Chop chop.

>>531061493
>Koyuki more popular than Yuuka so far

>>531061493
I'm gonna edit Sensei to be a full character and then fuck him. You cannot stop me.

this is the model icon that ST shows for gemini, but i've never seen it on google's gemini page or anything. i think it's a butterfly, but is it shown anywhere else?

>>531081939
It's not considered a good sci-fi book, but I think it's cool how it predicted oversized TVs, video calls and livestreaming. Bradbury assumed people will still want to read in the future, they just won't be allowed to do so. In reality, they just lost the attention spans needed to keep reading. My late grandma told me that she loved reading, having grown up in the 1930s, but her mom killed her interest by force because reading was seen as brain rot at the time.
>>531082356
Really makes you think. It reminds me of MSN.

funny idea for a model creativity test I had:
Create a 5x5 grid using algebraic notation (A1-E5) representing a 25-person classroom. Then, populate each space with a name and short description of a student in a Japanese high school slice of life/romcom. Include both the kanji and romanization of each student's name with descriptions featuring 1-2 defining traits. Make sure to cover the most important archetypes like the protagonist, protagonist's friend, class president, etc.

deepseek is surprisingly good at it, 4pus is okay, kimi is absolute glorpshit

>>531082343
Sensei is based, no problems with me.
Are you going to play as a specific character?

>>531082634
>protagonist in front seat
it's gonna flop

>>531082634
Which temperature are you using for testing each model?

>>531082190
>I was thinking about pirates
/aicg/ is marine territory, NO PIRATES ALLOWED

>>531082692
Not sure yet. Probably Kazusa.

>>531082840
0.3 on k2
1.3 on V3 0324
0.8 on 4pus
k2 was a lot better on this one than the last swipe but holy fuck the model is so slow on official api

>>531083156
How is he ojo-sama boy? Isn't ojo-sama lady? I've learned that word from the song Miha by Chisato Moritaka.

>>531083597
Like ojo-sama, but boy.

>>531083597
I did say it was better, not that it was good. I think there's a few different terms used the male equivalent like onzoushi? Anyways, here's 4pus with med thinking, the swipe before this hallucinated that there was a window in the middle of the classroom.

>>531084061
AGI will come when a model puts the protagonist in the back row

>>531084294
is he watching the window with a thoughtful gaze doe?

>>531084294
You fool. You damn nitwit.
Look at the log again.

How do I make gemini 2.0 decent?

>>531084570
Oh fuck I was holding it upside down
Of course it'd be 4pus

>>531084294
>>531084752
It should place him second to the back with a mysteriously empty seat behind him, childhood friend in front of him, and his sidekick next to him. That's when we should start fearing the machine.

>>531082356
For a long time I was mistaking it for Cohere. So what's the real answer?

>>531082634
>Protagonist at the front row
>MC table In the middle (2 MCs?)
>Teacher's table at E1 (Prompt says student table)
Deepseek is slop

>>531083156
>Delinquent with dyed silver hair; rescues stray cats and blushes when thanked.
I may not like it for full erp, but K2 one-shot messages are gold

>>531084932
It's a total marine victory out there

>>531084932
I'm gonna be honest the pirates were okay but the event was fine
What we really need is a lolibaba degrinch

>>531085170
I thought I could leave that one to you guys so I'm working on something for Wooden Swallow.

>>531085170
The quality of the bots is usually proportionate to how much the maker enjoyed the process. This event was fairly good with that with like one or two possible exceptions

>>531075286
that's the outdated "ai BAD" line of thinking, everyone else already upgraded to "muh environment" when it comes to stuff lkke this

>>531085419
Wooden Swallow was just a bad situation all around

>>531075286
I didn't feel bad when pirating indie games, I'd never feel bad for pirating art and lines on a book

>>531085598
Yeah...happens, though.

>>531084884
For a romcom, the protagonist is in the last row by the window with the seat next to him open for the transfer student who will be the gimmick winning girl. The childhood friend (possibly the class rep) (losing status preordained by the trope-kami) is in the front, away from the action in the first term. Then you have the seat shuffling episode later in the season where she gets the seat in front of him.

>>531082634
>prince charmless
Hell yeah.

>>531073258
i hate seeing men smile/smirk smugly

>>531081123
Firefox doesn't have anything that works as well as this

>>531075286
My art is in the datasets that anime models are trained on so it's more or less reclaiming. Uncertain on if my writing is in anything considering I only ever publicly uploaded back when quizilla was a thing.

>>>/g/105765923
>12 days ago
>>>/g/105893374
>25 minutes ago
>>>/g/105893392
>24 minutes ago
Is this perhaps foreshadowing that the cabal is mad enough about Chub making money that they're going to try to spite it because apparently grooming botmakies into using neocities is not enough so they're trying to get the FBI involved?

>>531087692
Get a life man

>>531084954
that's what im asking because i wanna make sure i get it right

>>531087692
who the fuck cares

>>531087692
>bypassing a country block is spiting somehow
meds

>>531088003
It seems like the weird star thing is their actual logo, but I like the butterfly.

>>531088056
If you read between the lines, Kalakan's post implies that he has been thinking a lot if that can be used to report Chub to the government. He probably spent a lot of time studying UK's law for that purpose alone.

>>531082343
Already beat it (his bussy) you to it bud

>>531088569
>dude trust me bro this is illegal
i'll wait until he actually cites what laws chub would be breaking

Is the tabletop anon still around? If so please do Shadowrun 5e.

>>531088438
yea, im so curious where the "butterfly" thingie came from...
but im using both so it's no biggie. just was worrying people'll see it and be confused at what it's supposed to be, yknow?

>>531088801
Imperial law bruv

>>531088569
if you read between the lines hard enough, you can gaslight yourself into believing anything...

>>531088569
Also, this post: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/517371427/#517391431
>I've been drafted by an iranian man
Implies that Kalakan has worked with Iran before. So acts of terrorism doesn't seem to be beneath him. He might use his Iranian connections against Chub. It wouldn't surprise me if the thing that's uniting the cabal is the jealousy that they feel about not making money with the hobby. They would rather go scorched earth and destroy everything if that means that nobody else gets to benefit from the hobby more than them. It explains why they push the split, neocities, catbox, Snombler Viewer, etc.

You bumbling retards, the butterfly is the AIStudio favicon.

>>531089229
Why have you still not responded to my marriage proposal? Are you scared that someone actually loves you?

>>531082634
I think my classroom is broken.

>>531089391
Janitor best girl

>>531089342
oh, okay, thanks. but now based on that image, it doesnt look much like a butterfly anymore. any idea what it is, anon?
now it reminds me of kizuna ai's cute headband.

>>531089043
>yea, im so curious where the "butterfly" thingie came from
The monarch butterfly, it symbolizes turning celebrities into sex slaves.

>>531089592
It's definitely a butterfly but it's heavily stylized to emphasize the Gemini symbolism.

>>531089229
Have you considered looking into Marsha Linehan's DBT?

Iranians fucking Brits, and Brits being punished by the sins of the brownoids most likely than you think!

what are some botmakies that aren't racist

>>531090002
I'm specieist ('ate 'atgirls)

>>531090002
not me...

>>531089752
found a decent enough image, yea i see it better now.

>>531090257
It's 2 eggplants actually.

>>531090002
Everyone is racist, it's just a matter of if they want to be that way or not and if they make an effort about it or don't.

>>531089229
God I want to put you under a microscope and poke your brain with sticks.

>>531082356
It was the logo for Google MakerSuite. Since it doesn't exist anymore, it would probably be changed to Gemini's diamond star.

>>531090424
2 grapefruit slices

>>531092391
ohhh okay, ty anon.

>>531082634
I don't know anything about anime
Did gemini do good or bad

>>531093118
>put protag in C3
AGI AGI AG
>no childhood best friend
>no sidekick
eh, almost there

>>531090424
>>531092394
two potato chip

>>531096198
why does he look like a monky

>>531096284
i fucked up the gigachad chin because i'm a retard

>>531096520
ii fixed it

>>531096198
mouthbreathing
>>531096773
mewing