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>Human Nin Edition

>>531047037 (OP)
>Human Nin Edition

>>531047037 (OP)
she has a mouth built for hairy fat man ass

Clean your Chloes.

>>531047037 (OP)
Gtfo Lulu

Why does she look so evil?

Do ninjas use Luck in any way? I have two 7BP Kirihas one with a speed boon and the other luck. I want to try out ninjas and I'm wondering which one would be better. I've been reading strenght is also good? I honestly don't understand ninjas.

>>531049350
Why is a catgirl talking about her katana in latin

>>531049332
they use luck if you inherit way of the knight and fua/counter to them

For Heat Haze junk, is it better to farm the 1st floor of the ninja cave or the entire dungeon?

>>531050023
Whatever's the fastest, drops seems to be the same regardless of the floor

>>531050343
1st floor it is then, thanks.

>>531049805
That's it? Doesn't seem all that good. Guess I'll do a Strength/Speed split.

>>531050023
I reset for the gold chest in the right room. Bout 1-10 chest for 2-3heat haze proc.

Traps can be turned off with knowledge. Each wheel grab takes about a minute.

40 heat haze in 2hours

>>531050497
it's good because if you commit to high investment then luk for fua/counter gives you more than just spd/str
but it's not the end of the world if you are just looking to build a standard ninjer

>>531050791
Hmm he does get the Fighter class change, but at the end of the day I think in that case he'd do better as a high Speed/Evade fighter. 10 Luck difference at 60 probably doesn't matter.

>>531050649
Oh, using the wheel resets the chests in this cave too? Good to know

>>531051114
Should roundtrip him, Ninja dual wield is really strong if he's got stacked strength.

kek

I can't fucking get any surety on my characters

>>531052948
You have to alter for it. Find blue 3-4 star gear with surety on it, give it another surety, enhance and refine. Some stuff can't even roll surety, you just have to put it on there.

>>531051579
Yeah I'll do that. Is Armor Pierce better than Heavy Strike? Has anyone tested it?

any info on next abyss blessing?
drop rate buff expires in 3 hours

>>531054827
Triple exp gain for characters that reached exp cap.

Is there a consensus on how to distribute bp on a speed boon Shou? Also is it better to unlock a discipline or level up her skill with a single dupe?

>>531055580
>Is there a consensus on how to distribute bp on a speed boon Shou? Also
Not yet, savor the risk(of bricking with wrong stat allocation)
>Also is it better to unlock a discipline or level up her skill with a single dupe
Save in case of inherit to be good

I despise Lulutarde. That is all.

>>531056314

>>531055580
I dunno, I got a STR boon and went all in on STR with my BPs because of Fighter unga bunga logic.

Wow, 10 bonus points strength boon uggo!

>>531058931
All in Luck

Is the Saber better than an ebonsteel Katana?
It has the One Sword Style for extra Atk and Acc

>>531061361
Saber is garbo

>>531061361
it could be comparable to steel katana
ebon blows it out of the water though

>>531061361
one sword style adds 1/2 of your str to attack, so i think saber beats out exquisite when your adventurer is at lv.60.
with my shiou (60 str) it adds +30 atk, with bugen ( 80 str) it adds +40 atk

>>531054184
It's about the same in my experience.

>>531063620
me again. i dont know mag atk stats for +20 exquisite tho. so maybe the total sum atk and mag for exquisite is better.

Odd: Class Change Lana and put her in the dispatch oven
Even: Class Change Abenis and put her in the dispatch oven
0: Buy the Rinne class change pack and put her in the dispatch oven

>>531064035
Lana the best fighter

>>531065063
I've had these books for month but just haven't gotten around to doing anything with them...

>>531065864
Same. Now I had Lana, Ashe, Marianne and Yaka as class changed. And Philip, Debra and Chloe in end of dispatch training. Gonna do another batch soon, this time evil chars. I gonna buy books for every adventurer. It's simply worth it

ABOUT TO REGISTER MY FIRST NINJA
PLS HELP
WHAT STATS DO I ALLOCATE MY POINTS IN?
ALL-CAPS FOR CRUISE CONTROL
Do I just go for the usual STR+DEX+SPEED? Do Ninjas benefit much from LUCK? Any help is really appreciated. Thnx in advance.

>>531066740
>...
Speed or strenght

I still couldn't finish the 1st Abyss dungeon
It's too fucking hard and too complicated...

>>531067136
Thanks.
Are there any DEX-reliant skills on a ninja?

>>531050649
>40 heat haze in 2hours
Really ? Wheeling back is that good ?

>>531050649
Which room is that? Also how do you turn off the traps on wheel without going into the boss room?

>>531067348
Always have been. Outside pan cave.
Mana elixir 1st floor of port town . Got 2 this time. Timer unclear.

>>531047037 (OP)
Last thread had Shiou with level 7 skills. How do you do that?

>>531067219
>T. Smartest only gacha player

>>531067793
Its magic truck called "use your banking account". Euros and sea niggers need no apply. Well you can also spend all your skill exp books from one day till now.

Ez book

>>531067680
I'm trying it right now but I can't say the game is being generous... I don't even get regular junk in most of my tries

are you fucking serious
should I still get it?

>>531070315
if you don't have the roundtrip ticket and wants to roundtrip (you don't unless you can't stomach how ugly green lana is)

Holy shit the cursed doll weekly is insane xp gain, was not expecting to get 5 in a fight and then click the request button and see 5/50

Friend,
forgive me for what I must do

>>531071036
Where is that?

>>531071191
pick up the quest in the capital and it's in the Ninja Cave

where is the weekly doll boss in guarda?

>>531071036
Is it hard? Want to bring a bunch of level 1 shitter and a nuker for it.

Does someone have the table with luck values and follow up attack by level?

>>531071446
https://wizardry-daphne.mcwild.net/list/tsuigeki

>>531071304
they seem to just be some of the b1f packs in ninja cave so if you're confident you can run/beat anything else on the base floor it should be no problem, I immediately went back to get sams/ninjas to level and it hasn't been an issue.

>>531071617
dont they run away on turn 1?

>>531071828
they all auto attack and don't curse or run away seems like. doubt i've just gotten this lucky, so if you can outspeed them they won't auto, and if you have good enough evasion gear the front dudes should be fine at a very low level, maybe get them to like 20 or higher first since thats really easy anyway.

>>531072386
they couldn't even kill a level 1 alex in one hit lol.

>>531069276
Explode

>>531071036
>cursed doll weekly
Is this new?

SWEET IS THE CALL OF DEATH

>cursed doll weekly
What? I don't remember this

>stealthily adds time-gated quests without any warnings or indications whatsoever that you'll never find out about unless someone tells you about it or you check the weekly/daily tab back in the capital
You rike?

>he doesn't wait with his weeklies until an exploit is found to abandon it/get infinite dolls
holy mother of brick, do you not know drecum by now?

yeah go level your shious and rinnes and maybe generics if you want
>weekly doll kills 3/50
>80k+ exp already

They announced it in the notes.

I have been rused.
The only thing I see is the weekly tag request.

>>531073568
Noooooo I don't want to read!

my honorabu waifu Shiou would not approve if i cheated her to 60

>iq boon shiou with 7 bp
im really tempted to go all in on speed bp. is that dumb?

What is the min level to go into this cave?
How do you unlock it?

its time

>>531073986
no
speed is best for her (again like almost everyone else)
str and IQ are even brickier because it's like .6/.6 scaling so you get even less than normal martial
>>531074048
just beat abyss 2 and then start the abyss 3 storyline. You only need to go into the first floor of the 3rd abyss to get the cave quest

which generic adventurer bondmate gives SPD?

>>531074448
hum nin

>>531073265
Yeah they added it so stealthily they announced it nearly a week in advance gwo.
https://x.com/Wiz_Daphne_en/status/1942539225230106999/photo/3

where the fuck is the selling event

>>531074890
>get an Adam
>it's not the cool one
I am going to keep my gems until the drow comes back

wtf
i was always scared of the doll weekly boss, tried today and she's super weak.

>>531075215
maybe you've just gotten stronger gwo

>he's not morgusmaxxing
Y'all cowards wont even make a pact with Satan.

>>531075375
Can you cancel it afterwards ?

>>531075469
the mc exp contract? yeah you can take it off whenever just by talking to morgus again.
its the other contracts that can fuck you over and force you to pay gems if the unit with one dies.

I'd unironically buy the weekly/monthly mission pass if it meant that I could the weeklies without needing to do the annoying 3 non-daily quests mission.

>>531075969
>he can't go kill the lead grade undead thrice

>>531075839
Well damn, I might just go with it then

>kill 20 dolls
>bunny ambush
ISHYGDDT

>>531075969
you have to cursed wheel every week for the bf6 bone anyway so i take that time to do the post-abyss quests in each town. its not so bad.

>>531076185
It's not a matter of "can't", it's a matter of "this is too annoying to do week after week".

>>531070315
Could be worse. I had 3 weeks ofGerard books (don't even have one) and Marianne books (already did cc run).
Like 3 weeks not even character I don't use but maybe may in future books.

>>531071056
>Not giving him name like Sacrifice or Blood Debt.
Souless
>>531073265
What quest

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ooVNXXWsguI

>>531079580
>30k
Tzalikgwos, don't look!

we get it your dumb cat hits big if ideal unrealistic conditions (which will never happen in normal gameplay) happen
now stop posting/linking shit no one cares about

Big number good
Also is she really a cat or are we just assuming

>>531079580
WITNESSED

>>531075969
Just do the 1st round of undead march for a few days while doing your nourishing/mimic cum/bone respawn rounds

>>531079893
You VILL look at my cat.

Do the dolls keep spawning after we finish the weekly?

>decided to try true guarda ending today
>forgot to switch back from wanderer to fighter
... gwos...

>>531080939
Obviously not. It would be retarded if it does

>>531075375
How did you get so much xp tho ? I'm barely reaching 100k with Morgus scammy contract myself

>>531081407
The scorpion lady can spawn with 6 dolls .

>>531081472
Oh, that's why. Thx gwo

so how fucked is bugen speedwise? can he even get a spd iv?

>>531069276
Sure glad I don't have Rinne and can just laugh at this instead of feeling compelled to spend money.

>>531084413
give me the asha book now

when do adventurers get less xp? is it every 10 levels? should I just keep them at 20?

>1.6m exp from the weekly alone
nice

>>531086603
No. You get less exp when you out level enemy. 30 is fine, 40 if you gor for harder content. You should use dispatch mines for levelin cc adventurers

>>531087075
H0w?
Also thanks dremcom, already have galina

Does Shiou want SUR?

When is Good alignment Masketta going to start getting... good adventurer choices?

>>531075375
Morgus who?

>>531087114
oh I see, that's how it works, thanks

>This must now be done on your second or third route.
>It cannot be done on your first route anymore.
Maybe I'll just skip the Mage trial... Why the fuck did they lock a class change behind such an annoying requirement?

>>531087767
Its still easier to hoard xp on lower capped characters.

>>531087114
Do dispatches still give exp if the adventurer is capped? Like, can I just keep them at 20 and then uncap it later on like on normal leveling?

>>531087075
yea that was a nice event for once,
I was originally going to stop after 1m xp today but this changes things

>>531087972
Yes.

>>531087896
Forgot pic. I thought I could just wheel back and kill Melgina again but Drecom thought that'd be too convenient apparently.

Fighter with thief second class
Or
Thief with fighter second class and why?

>>531087972
Yes. Exp cap is separated from grade. 0bviously when you get enough exp to reach max level (now 60)you will not get more

I RAN OUT OF ORE

>>531088115
It's OK gwo, we all got it already.

So are you guys reseting the whole heat haze dungeon via the curse wheel to farm it? Or just walking around fighting mobs on floor 1 after clearing it?

>>531088115
IDK why people fret over doing 2nd Abyss again, besides doing the mermaid statue stuff you're just blitzing through already mapped areas and flipping quest flags on the wheel before you do new stuff. I feel like this is Yek-less behavior and fights are longer than a single button press or something?
It was a lot more egregious back in the day with all the bugs and portions you couldn't wheel to without errors, or even having the entire 2nd abyss section of the wheel disappear

>>531087913
why is that?

>>531088204
Fightheif or Thiefighter? I suppose Thief with a Fighter reclass is better because you don't need to class change twice to retain FPS.

>>531088709
>having the entire 2nd abyss section of the wheel disappear
That was just a plot by big Drecom to make you download the game in your phone

>>531088204
pick your favorites from the list and end on fighter
Benjamin probably has the best unique since magical beasts are so common
its good but dont feel like you HAVE to use him over another

>>531088709
It's not difficult, it's the principle of the thing. It'd be a different story if the other routes weren't basically the same except with a few nouns swapped around. I guess a shitty analogy would be if you ordered a banana split and get handed some icecream and a whole banana. Peeling a banana isn't hard, but it still sucks that you have to do pointless busywork before you get your treat.

does shiou lose the resting bitch face when she starts to like you
because it's kinda hot

Are the fighter training grounds good for farming junk?

>>531089887
no

>>531088613
walking around floor 1
>>531089887
no

>>531089579
>>531088870
So I have Milena as my Evil chest opener. Gonna make Ophelia as good one. But then I have Amelia, Benji and Philip, Amelia probably make more sense as Thief because of her detect discipline, Benji is strong fighter but he would be also strong combat thief and faster than fighter, philip can go both as well but if I get Olive as thief he stay fighter. Debra is knight now.

>>531088709
I use it to level up cc adv and future bonsmates.
No big deal also I use it rto grab some extra mp pots and light sandals. Location of 2 mp pots, you need reset dungeon with boss fight tho

>>531088710
Because you can blitz through low level enemies with your low level adventurers if you attach somd higher level or boost them with gear.
I think I gonna make benji thief to offset his liw speed.

>>531091083
>Ophelia as good one
w/e you are planning to invest into Ophelia to make her somewhat passable at chest opening would be better spent on MC

>kill dolls
>shiou gets like 135000XP

>>531091704
I mean Olive. I need her book tho. She has good discipline detect and should get double detect from Mud

>>531092014
How you farm them?

>exp event
>can't make use of it since I won't become a ninja
I regret being lawful good

>>531092541
go to capital, new weekly quest, it's in the ninja cave
the dolls just spawn with normal enemies
>>531092618
you just have to beat the first part of the quest, I haven't become a ninja yet

>>531092618
I'm still Good after I shanked Elf-Pri and throw his body down the river so just go for it. Just think of him as an evil god follower or something.

Killing Elf-Pri is not an evil deed

>>531092896
thy shall not tempt me demonspawn

you need 10 million xp?!

>>531091350
>it's real
Mine was up north because the whole map is randomized, but holy shit, Mana Elixir x2 did respawn
Thanks guy

>>531093361
u rike?

>>531093361
10.58m to be more precise,
get back to work

>>531079580
>Level 7
What is that like 12 dupes?

>>531094034
no just lots of skill exp scrolls

>>531093521
I think its like 2 weeks or 1 month timer. The problem is resetting port city. I am not dure how to do it reliable

>>531092896
He IS an evil god follower, all elf priests are.

took a while to get those last 15 dolls, it kicks you out of the cave and auto completes as soon as you surpass 50. You can get possibly get more than fifty though, because the full amount will spawn in the final fight.

nice meemee game

Is the doll quest once per day or just once per campaign?

>>531074890
>>531095212

>sad I didn't get Bugen with all the bones I had saved up
>exp event, huh? I guess I'll sort through all the duds I got...
>9 point STR boon Kiriha
YOOOOSHIIIIAAAAHHHH

>>531095212
It's weekly and runs till the 27th. So unironically 2 more weeks lol.

>>531096121
>Check these my lord

LV30 Shiou with +10 steel katana is doing comparable damage with Bamboo Splitter to my 60 fighters using FPS
WTF is this class

>>531097605
Imagine how powerful the class will be when Abe can switch.

>>531092896
bricked. Lulu saw what you did, your account is now flagged, and you WILL be locked out of the goodchad-exclusive lulu footjob ending scene

It would be SO funny if they add a ninja class change for Elf-pri

>torso strike 1 does more damage than heavy attack 2
bugen is gandolfo 2.0

OH HELL YES

>>531098883
Give me 2

how many dolls are there to kill in the ninja cave? is there a place to check? is it just infinite?

>>531099920
after 50 (check quest progress) it forces you to turn the quest in and the dolls stop

Besides Lana are there any good knights?

>>531100125
Can you wheel before completion to reset?

>>531100564
Savia

>>531100689
Unless you can wheel irl, no

How many low levels can I carry on doll execution mission?
Would 2 level 60s be enough to level up 4 fresh adventurers?

>>531101190
I'm running around with a 500 Mag mage and a Fighter, the only problem are ambushes from the contract

>>531101190
Mage will aoe nuke them easy

>>531100564
Banner Savia
Otherwise all of them are solid as their either cc into fighters which make your knighty fighty or fighter tanky or priest which make priest tanky or knight come with solid array if spells.
I guess Eldorado is kind of weak as he change into mage.

Do the dolls run away first turn?

>>531104680
Nope, it's free xp.

>>531067668
Theres a button on the entrance if u have the knowledge. Walk in tap it, grab chest a room away repeat next wheel

>>531094034
Uhh
100 lvl 2
100 lvl3
200 lvl 4
200 lvl 5
300 6
300 7
So yeah, 12 or a mixture of scrolls.
Its pretty cheap relatively to max a legendary skill with enough scrolls.
Lvl 4 of like heavy strike on non mc is more scrolls/copies

Shiou could never

I'm not finding any dolls. Do I need to reset the quest sand trial quest via the curse wheel?

>>531109834
It seems like 1 out of 5 fights has them, keep trying

John you gave me the wrong one...

Tips for beating Gessi in the water for the Bondmate?Besides maybe guard spam with the Masked Man while maybe in the backrow?
Figure if I'm doing a second run for the Mage Light I may well grab the bondmate but getting slapped 4 times in a row for 200 damage dropped my masketta man.

>>531111335
Go there at lvl60 and outspeed him
Do that like 20 times

>>531111335
>Tips for beating Gessi in the water for the Bondmate?
200+ eva

>>531112354
>>531112467
Okay, yeah fuck that.
Not gonna uncap right now.

>>531109387
...hit such low numbers !

>>531112560
His bondmate is Water with Acc+ and another resistance I forgot about
Pretty good but a pain to farm at lower levels

>>531113068
It's something I'll grab eventually, but uncapping and/or going EvasionMAXXXing is a bit contrary to my objective of hastily trying to prep for the mage proving grounds given how EXP falls off a cliff past 50.

>>531113282
desu I just did a round myself
like 3 strikes and he was down before even getting to act so no need to evasionmax just kill him before he can go crazy on your party

Is there a limit to how many dolls spawn on each floor?

>>531114246
I did them all on f1

How would you rank the hardest content in the game?
>Morgus
>True End Guarda
>Gamblers

>>531054184
Depends on the enemy. Armor pierce pierces armor. If the enemy doesn't have armor it's going to suck compared to heavy attack's atk multiplier.

Bugen potential worth feeding to Shiou? is it 5% per level like Way of the Warrior?

>>531119237
Amogus > 0 corruption doorstopper > gamba

Do you have to do something special to reverse the statue for the Melgina fight? I just didn't get a prompt at all and barely scraped by.

>>531121803
It should appear in your Masketta Man's quick skill bar.

>>531122057
Maybe I missed it, but I don't recall any of the 4 skills being overwritten. It would be retarded if you had to leave a slot open.

>>531122245
you probably missed it, after she does the song which makes the statue rust it replaces the skill in the bottom right spot

Does Faewood armor work with ninja passive? How can you tell something is cloth?

amelia...

>>531123135
>Does Faewood armor work with ninja passive?
I think it's light armor so probably not?
>How can you tell something is cloth?
Look at the icon.
Alternatively, look around, there's an option to display only a certain type of equip.

>Get Liviana to D3
>Get her unique skill to Lv3
>Keep her in the front with Lana bonus
>Give her a 3* purple Ebon 2hAxe with ATK, SUR, ACC
>Give her Fighter Ring
>She still does less damage than my Backline Spear Gerulf
>Only good if i'm spamming her very expensive(21 SP) unique skill every turn
>Does around 1200(non-crit) - 2200(crit)
>Most hard content requires perma guarding with front row so doesn't even do anything
>Not even better than my STR boon Abernis for auto farming
To reconcile I'm going to make my formation: Frontline: Abenis, Liviana, Lana
Backline: Alice, MC, Gerulf

But I need to farm a 2nd +15 Spear for MC and get his Alignment to Neutral. How do you change alignments? Just redo the ninja quest?

I dont even use backline ninjers

>>531124606
Yep explode

>>531124606
maybe you should start

>>531125234
Sheli and Alice are musts
and I need Lana and Elise to buff my pizza cat
i just have no space

>>531120809
Maybe it's best to feed it to a non-samurai frontliner ?

>>531125967
drop sheli and alice and setup an autofarm team
its not like you cant swap them back in when content shows up

I wonder if it'll be more effective to go in with Magex3 or Magex2 and Wanderer.

>49/50 dolls
>took a full hour to get the last one
Fuck off, Drecom.

>already fed second wotw from the fighter rerun to MC
>never got any from ophelia
>still haven't spent my mariannecoins
bros... do I go all in on ophelia for shiou wotw?

>>531128645
that also comes from Gandolfo
idk what your priorities are but, if you fail all the rolls atleast you can boost up your fighters heavy attack

>>531129421
thing is, all my fighters are already at lv3 HA, dunno if I need to push it any further really, plus it gets pretty expensive here on out
maybe MC can use the boost
I just have no idea what to save mariannecoins for, seems like nothing is gonna be added until maybe later when we may get more from an event or something

>>531129830
If thieves don't get any good attacking skills from 60-70 might be worth to start giving your main chest opener HS3, possibly same for Ninja but I haven't seen any good data sources on HA3 vs AP3.

AP3 does about the same if not more damage on my MC. Heavy Attack does a little more damage if the mob has no defense.

>>531130317
MC is my main chest opener lol

>>531130624
I wish I could but the camera doing it with masketta man makes me nauseas after a box or two.

>>531130317
nta but I have HA3 on my round tripped amelia, I'm thinking of giving MC AP5 since I only need 1 more kiriha for that and her HA5 since she has the highest SP
and then when I finish lvling samurai I might use a few skill scrolls and see how bamboo splitter stacks up

Meh.

I can't remember what skill books I've bought before...

>>531131878
I mean class change books, fuck.

>>531131878
I keep them in a spreadsheet.

>>531131878
???
look in your inventory

>>531132494
The problem is they're not in any sort of order and there's 5 million alteration stones mixed in.

>>531133539
they need to fix the consumable section so fucking badly.

Knight Chloe butt

>>531135958
The smelliest butt

>free WotW on quest bone
>free WotK on Mauso bone
I know you are trying to compensate me on the 100 dud rolls John Drecom, it's not enough

What skill can thief use to keep up with these newer DPS skills?
Blood edge seems to be awful at level one.
Sneak attack is not close to FPS.

>>531140328
Just wait for advanced sneak attack at 65, bro.

>>531140328
round trip or cc from fighter and give them HA3 and stack surety / atk
HA3 has close to the same dpr as FPS w/o a chance to be intruppted
thieves have higher SP so they can spam it longer, with high surety a regular attack will be plenty for trash fights
unless you're wasting a ton in progression you shouldnt run out of SP

>>531140328
Even with warrior's battle cry + hide?
Thieves are suppose to make up for their lack of damage with utility, but in every RPG where it's like this, this has always resulted in thieves being situational units that get outperformed by in most situations by a fighter's raw damage.

>>531142103
The soft caps are more likely than not the problem, and are kneecapping a shit load of skills.
Thief's in particular are quite low across the board.

disregarding high number cooming
>lv1->lvl2 bamboo split gains 4 sp or 33% sp
>apparently also deals 33% more damage
it's kinda interesting to see a proportionate level of damage increase with sp use increase, most skills aren't like this at all and gain a smaller bit usually
if there is, what other skills are like this exactly

>>531143146
ninjas is in shambles. i hope our skelly get samurai asap.

>>531143146
>The Samurai has become so strong
Fighterbros...

>>531143146
damn, I might need to dust off my elise and put her on the team again

>>531143146
I knew they just HAD to make Samurai good but damn, they even get these numbers on their side
Is bamboo splitter generally the better skill to level than torso strike? Samurai don't get hit out of their stance if they get status right? So stance into bamboo splitter is always a safe combo?

Torso Strike is for if you need something dead ASAP, and can't risk a turn setting up.

>>531143947
The only advantages of torso strike right now is the accuracy bonus and not needing a stance. For bosses, you generally want to get into stance ASAP to spam bamboo splitter.

for the first two ores, earth is best?

>>531143146
>level 1 to 2 is this efficient
wonder how much efficiency and damage level 3 would give...

>>531143947
>Is bamboo splitter generally the better skill to level than torso strike?
I wouldn't use books on torso strike since you can get it from inherits
I think torso would be better if you're trying to kill something in the opening round and you need either more dmg or acc than a regular auto would have
or something is coming up that would make being in a stance a bad idea

Is there a guide on how to increase or decrease your alignment quickly?

>>531145136
Seems to mostly be spamming ambush/heal surrendering monster packs when you encounter them.

>Torso
For random mobs, quickly deleting troublesome frontline adds in boss fights, and if you're afraid of the increased damage taken from wave stance.
It also scales really hard. Torso lvl 3 does more damage than Heavy lvl 5, unfortunately dooming Bugen to be eternal fodder.
>Bamboo
For dealing high damage during boss fights and hoping you don't get hit (unless you're a whale and your sam has 200+ extra hp then you don't give a fuck).
>Lingering Blossom
Only usable after you've killed all the adds and if the boss cooperates with a phys attack instead of a buff/debuff or magic attack. Honestly both of Shiou's skills are super mid and she's probably becoming a permanent dispatch slave the second a better sam releases.
But none of this matters because in difficult content your frontline is forced to spam defend every turn, so you can never use any of this shit when it would actually make an impact.

>>531150129
The fucking castle is either whale bait or triple fighter frontline spamming defense while your backline priests with mage dips open up defenses. The fighters literally all just use FPS or HS lv 3 to kill magic spamming or AoE reliant foes like the plants, and the rest is just defend. Also evasion is worthless. Most unfun way of balancing the game and I'm 100% sure this will be its future. The fall off in quality between Abyss 2 and 3 and then once again between 3 and upper castle levels is monumental. Someone needs to be fired for it.

>>531150129
>torso also scales really hard
bruh do all of these samurai skills just scale really hard
>>531150426
>evasion is worthless
at least the enemies do mosquito damage, only problem is the amount of aoe charms/confuses that completely remove characters from the fight

I did it, gwos!

>>531150426
You sound like someone who doesn't farm gear playing a game about farming gear. You can go fuck up Morgus with a team of generics if you farm gear

...Was the pepper quest never fixed? Replaying some port town nonsense and the Under Chef still refuses to progress it if you so much as deviate even a little.

Is anyone experiencing the same bug i have? Sometimes just when my Ninjer MC aa the game just freezes and everything still runs, but screen is now empty of options. Quit game reload and it may fix itself or not.

>>531154991
Never had anything like tgat happen on mine, mobile nor pc. But I've heard some jp complain the exact same thing recently.

>>531150960
nice job, gwo

>>531150960
whats that

>>531154991
I often get that when I manually click attack on enemy with my Ninja Mc, have to reset then use a skill instead of normal attacking then it's fixed.

>>531158434
guarda final verdadero

So, does FUA works with samurai stance change?

hhrrrrrr I want my green lana NOW FUCK YOU JEWERLER

>>531164639
Class change event soon gwo

>updated animations
>Bakesh still can't hold mug correctly
>despite same model/different paint Benjamin holds it correctly

>reverse 4k junk
>0 good non-shinobi weapons
where do I farm ebonsteel spears?

PHILIP IS ACTUALLY GOOD OK?!?!? IF YOU D9 HIM HE HAS ALMOST AS MUCH ATTACK AND HP AS GASTON! HIS MINMAXED EBONSTEEL CRITS HIT ALMOST AS HARD AS A LEVEL 40 BENJAMIN WITH SHIT STEEL WEAPONS OK!?!?!?

Philip is not cool, simple as

>>531165942
He is fine. Just cc him to fighter.
His looks degrade tho.
>>531166140
He ook cool as thief

>>531165942
philip is among the most popular characters among fujos anon; surprisingly few gays into him (the gay character is Daniel.)

>>531166140
>>531166453
Top castle clears used Philip in both seasons, more in first though
He is great cope fighter with thief passives if d9

>>531166681
good for them

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/O6sglMphIes
K***htbros...we are finally useful....

Is this game good?
qrd on gameplay

Where in the sand cave are the weekly dolls?

>>531168284
Typical blober but with actual great visuals and chatter, solid character dedign. Its fun to play if you into these sort of things.

>>531168537
Randomly spawn with the mobs

https://x.com/Wiz_Daphne_en/status/1944683347692978400
Mega contents by drecom

Why is everyone farming adventurer bondmates? Isn't 5 to a stat kinda useless?

Checking JP twitter/x, Crucible Mausoleum bone respawn pattern is:

1) Viviana, Ophelia, Bakesh, Olive, Jarmil (5/4)
2) Asha, Emil, Clarissa, Marianne (5/18)
3) Eldorado, Galina, Elda, Milana, Benjamin (6/1)
4) Eckart, Eulalia, Gaston, Chloe, Amelia (6/15, 3/23)
5) Gandolfo, Flut, Barbara, Daniel, Valdor (6/29, 4/6)
6) Dino, Alex, Elise, Jean, Philip (Current, 4/20)

So next reset should be Viviana, Ophelia, Bakesh, Olive, Jarmil if the pattern holds.

>>531170192
>Isn't 5 to a stat kinda useless
5 maybe is. 25 though? Makes atk%/mag% better than flat atk/mag
Also it's much easier to do than mind numbing quest bondmate farm, like duke for mp+mag

>>531170192
mainly minmax autism, but IQ/DEX is kindof unironically useful for opening chests/avoiding ambushes though

>>531168284
Play it and see for yourself
Remember - take them both

So 1 point of atk or mag only gives samurai .6 damage per hit? that's lame. Big number funny but doesn't that make stacking surety better for dps

>>531170192
It ranges from 5-7 and I VILL get that 5-7 SPD on all my team.

>>531170635
>doesn't that make stacking surety better
Once you hit 95% chance of surety, it's dead stat unlike atk/mag
>So 1 point of atk or mag only gives samurai .6 damage per hit?
The actual way to read it though is different
>1 MAG equals 0.65 to physical dmg
Besides, their damage is already balanced around 0.6 mult, you can see bamboo splitter hitting for 4k despite 0.6 atk mult

>>531170468
oh and speed, the most useful one

>>531170920
>1 MAG equals 0.65 to physical dmg
but is 1 ATK equal to 0.65 phys dmg or 1?

is it me or does ninja cave drop kinda suck balls? the grade and quality is really bad. The only saving grace is ninja and samurai stuff but even then you'd be hard pressed to get an actually good piece

>>531171237
you're completely right also it's the best source for ninja and samurai stuff so lol have fun sucker!

>>531171542
>le bricken
lacks equipment variety
>guarda
it's guarda
>nincave
kneecapped equipment quality

I hate Drecom

>>531171148
Also 0.65
Yeah, you can still max out atk considering we have Red Brick spell

>>531171721
What, you just want to instantly get the best gear possible? That's silly. At least this way you have content.

>>531158990
Why did we do that

>>531173328
Because time travel powers. It's like quicksaving/quickloading - you do shit because you can.

y-yeah...

>>531173657
Our party has time travel powers too though...
They wait for us in the tavern after travelling back to start

>>531173657
We gained the knowledge that we could not acquire Rinne tits so easily
So how do we acquire Rinne tits?

>>531174798
Only the player is aware of the effects, even Lulu doesn't go back/forward with us.

>>531174945
Lulu is not part of our party gwo

>>531175018
Punished revived lulu in abyss 8 will join your team officially

>only 50 cursed dolls
It was such a short and blissful time...

>>531177276
It'll be 150 total.

>equip a 1 handed staff+shield on alice
>does barely less healing and has a lot more EVA+ASPD
my eyes have been opened

>>531178930
Yeah. 2handed staves are for offensive magic users. If you just want to healbot, rod+shield.

>>531178930
some one handed staves also have pretty good side effects for auto attack which is slightly less bricked than 2handers

>>531173657
DESU gwos. The quick load and checkpoint system in Daphne is really well made. Incorporating it into core game mechanics was strok of genius

>>531170798
Anyone know what titles of bondmates mean? Or do they have any effect? The one like dearest, mentor etc.

splendid
i shall stay in a suite

gwos I think they buffed heat haze drop chance for real this time. I'm getting around 20-25% drop

>bricked on the last roll
NYOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>531181460
At least it's not DIV.

>>531181460
acc is useable. Everyone thinks it's a brick until the fighter whiffs

>>531182014
dude im already so accurate that even if a drop of my sperm gets inside Sheli she will birth me triplets

>doll weekly quest bugged out and stopped showing the count of dolls some where around 12 of them

why does Rinne eat the burger

What are you guys doing with Rinne? Her CC is thief and MC is a better ninja.

>>531183206
I use Kiriha, never pulled for bricks

>>531183206
She doesn't exist in my game.

>>531183206
Ninjas greatly benefit from a thief roundtrip

>>531183206
What are you guys doing with Abenis :D? Her CC is priest and MC is a better fighter.

>just using the characters I like and not worrying about minmaxing

>>531183756
Her ADV CC is Sam.
2 more updates.
Trust the plan.

Marianne LORD when?

>>531183756
Fighter into priest and back isn't bad honestly. You get some extra attack, MD and resist plus all buff mad clear status spells that let you use MP pool and save on potions and scrolls -great utility, for a place of one bag slot(you put a 2h staff here) you can also heal quite well. On the other hand in case of abenis you can make her battle priest(stack atk etc)and open with 2h hammer.

>>531184030
Unless you coincidentally use fighters, you likely don't play the game

im a metaslave and im still stuck on gamblers

>>531184301
you can use ninjas instead of fighters

>>531184149
She is already my lady, lady of my wallet.

>>531184430
Ah, so you don't play the game

>>531184430
You can use 6 speed specced thieves instead.

I cleared the entire cave and only found 6 cursed dolls. Is that to be expected? And how long do I have to do all 50?

4ninjas, 2 samurai. Ultimate wee party

>>531184612
It's weekly, so you have time.

You can play the game only if you're minmaxing everything and slightly gay, and you left balls is hanging lower, and you dad is bald with big muscles, he was a construction worker.

>>531184778
Who told you about my balls? Was it my bald dad?!

>>531184778
>you left balls is hanging lower
>balls
Yeah, if you only have one left ball, you're not welcome here in /wizg/.

>>531184661
>farming 6 kunai and 2 katanas
more like ultimate NEET party

Fordraig but for ninjers and samurais soon

that's literally ninja cave lil gwo

So, thanks to the doll event I leveled Wand*rer to 60. What should I do next, maybe level Mage just in case?

>>531183206
She's going to be my chest-opener that can deal damage after I roundtripped her back to Ninja from Thief. Her kunais are ready ofc haha...

>>531186167
I gained about 7 levels of ninjer

>>531186167
Probably.
If it's anything like the Fighter trial, if you've got two mages at 60 already, the third slot can be a 50 Mage and it shouldn't make a huge difference.

very cool

>>531187101
>THREE capped exp slots
bricked beyond saving

>release a samurai guy
>name him Bugmen
what did Drecom mean by this

>>531187101
>half the team exp capped
>low level units in the back
>not using morgie's exp contract
risk status: unsavored

>>531187357
>morgie's exp contract
What is this and where can I get it? Just made it to 3rd Abyss and unlocked sand cave.

>>531187456
end of abyss 3

>AA keeps prioritizing the harmless insect instead of the oneshotting bnnuys
They don't crit that often, but I HATE this

>>531187456
After good or true ending of Guarda.

>>531187456
Make it out of Abyss 3 alive at least once and there'll be a request to open up the Catacombs

>>531188015
For są i wish we could customise actions taken.

>We don't need IQ where we're going

>>531188743
>those eyes
into the gooncave she goes

>>531188743
Her knight outfit looks better than fighter.
Knight = thief >>> fighter outfits at last for regulars

>>531188780
Lulu is always watching. Judging.

>>531188868
It looks good but not better than her fighter getup.

I decided to level Bugman manually while the cat is in the mines.

>>531188949
I'm just gonna cum straight through her. What's she gonna do? huh?

>>531188949
Imagine having sex with Yekaterina, now two spooky cucks are watching.

Sorry, three, it's you the gwo player!

Honestly because of exp dispatches dolls are only really useful for MC gaining levels. Still gonna take me the full 3 weeks to max out ninja probably at least I can farm the fucking cave and see if I can get at least one good piece of equipment for my ninjers. Getting enough materials to outfit 2 samurai and ninjas is likely going to take months.

>>531190373
depends on how you define good. Personally I think blue 2* is probably the best I can get and I will just alter the 3rd line to sur

>>531190373
1.9- 2.5 million exp* in a few hours(plus you can fish for ninja/sam gear while doing it) saves a lot of dispatch time. Especially since you can easily bring like 4-5 people who need levels at once.
*with morgus contract and based on amount of 6 doll encounters you get

>>531192470
I can barely even get any doll encounters much less 6 of them…

shiou unbricked some of my items

>>531193102
She doesn't look too happy about it.

Is it 50 dolls or 50 dolls encounters?

>>531194153
50 dolls but if you run away at 49 to try and encounter a 5 or 6 doll fight it will just brick your quest and wont let you finish it

>>531193102
I only had one atk/mag item saved.

>>531194252
I see, thanks

You fucking autist drop the Katana you are drinking in the tavern

>>531194669
>calls you lord
>but hates you for bringing up loyalty
What the fuck is her problem

>>531195684
>catcat

>>531190005
You and doctor?
Man, get some self respect

>>531196410
>drinks beer
>it goes somewhere
Come on, you want to know what it feels like.

>The doll quest auto completes when you kill 50.

I noticed after class changing Chloe she got this angry brow twitch in the tavern.

>kill helmut and octo
>never talked in tavern or at fountain
>already womb tattoo
Bugen-dono is so easy.

>>531199464
>Come play, my Lord

Class changed units for doll quest
Enough exp to go 1->47.
If I rest at the inn, come next week I'll earn even less exp? Or are the dolls level 60+?

>>531194669
The cat who drinks with a katana is stupid every day but one

>>531170192
>Isn't 5 to a stat kinda useless?
On one member, sure
Across six members, no, same with boons

>>531194669
>letting your guard down
>in a tavern

>>531199810
The dolls are level 60 but I imagine there will still be an XP hit from levelling up. You might have to just hit up the fountains instead of the inn or switch to a different class first

Oh my

>>531200656
I’m fairly sure the EXP bonus caps out at 10 levels below the enemy, or close to there so it shouldn’t be too much lower.

from today

>>531201316
you should take shiou to 40 if you farm sandnigger cave it doesnt make a difference
you start losing exp there at 44-45 iirc
lvl30 ninjer MC also got the same exp from dolls as her so it's safe

>>531200817
God I wish my only exquisite was at least half-decent

>leveling ninja mc beyond lvl30 when samurai mc is just around the corner

can I refund via steam if I spend like 200 bucks and dont get nothing?

>>531202847
Maybe

I think I like Bugman more than the samurai pizza cat.

>>531203506
The beards on the dwarves here are just too ridiculous for me.

I dislike dwarf samurai beard

Behold -
This -
Dwarven COCK!

his dwarven moustache is pretty classy

Whelp, it appears human nin is just as stubborn at getting a heart as every other speed cunt. I've done like 10 fountain+tavern visits so far and nothing yet. Maybe neutral/evil will have better luck, because even with a full evil team other than me, she doesn't give a fuck.

Would you eat the Sheli hole or S hole for short after she stayed in the stables for 1 week while farming Le Bicken cave?

I think Samurai might be doing dual type damage. As in they do both physical and magic damage...?
For some reason depending on enemy type my benis either does more damage or less damage than my shiou. By a pretty large margin too...?
Ninjer cave
>Abenis consistently do ~60 more damage per hit
Guarda daily minotaur
>Benis do 120 damage per hit with double type advantage from horny sword, Shiou does the same damage without any type advantage
Urgent tag quest
>Shiou does about almost twice as much damage as benis on the same undead
Am I hallucinating this or something? But that doesn't make sense because if cat did magic damage then she should be doing more against the clouds in the ninjer cave or something??

>>531206651
gwo, you dont need a womb tattoo on nameless adventurers because they cant get them...

>>531207071
They can, though. I just dismissed a human fig with one.

>>531206968
you can test on steel grade exam mobs there are both physical and magical immune enemies there
also if your cat can't outdamage your benis you're doing something extremely wrong or you're comparing a max DSC benis to a D0 cat

>>531207071
You've never even tried have you?

>>531207423
It's just autos. Kot doesn't go into stance or spam skills or anything. Benis is also max lvl +dsc 1 with cracked gear and fighter ring and kot is parking at lvl 40 + lvl 10-15 stuff
Steel exam is a nice idea, maybe I'll test it some other time. Grinding ninja cave got me burnt

>>531207385
>>531207743
no i wasn't sure
it's better to try to spread misinformation and get corrected than to ask a question and get 0 replies

>>531207949
Evil behavior

>>531207869
just tried
>right side aka physical immune side still take 1-2 damage from everyone, and it was really annoying to even hit them with all that eva
So it's not dual type damage. Actually, it might just have been the concentration passive, but that's a pretty huge discrepancy just for that 1 passive. Or it's the wacky 1000 times folded Japanese code again. Oh well, I shadn't be thinking about this too much. Kot big number good

>>531202548
>change mc to sam and give him 10mil exp just to press defend every turn in boss battles
shan't

Real Masketta endgame class is Lord.
Samurai is a joke, they don't even have multiclass passives.

what's better for manual frontline MC warrior or ninja?

I'm using BOTH Rinne and Shiou so I can have 2 cute nonhumans calling me m'lord

>still no exquisite katana

Is the game balanced fucked forever now?
How do you balance all other classes doing 10% of the damage a Samurai can do?

Not too long ago doing 2.5k damage with Full Power Strike was considered very impressive

>>531212659
>some kind of gigawhale having their shiou die so much she's at 0 fort
looks like a lot of work to me. Normal samurai do a little more than fighters but that's fine because fighters are still well balanced and can take a hit

>>531210135
Is your MC a Knigger?

>>531212659
what hecking balance, you filthy fucking drigger? commit sudoku RIGHT NOW

>>531212659
>Is the game balanced fucked forever now?
Game balance was fucked since start. The issue is powercreep. yes it's spirals out of control
They can in theory give skills that will do 2.5k damage, but next time they will release character doing 100k damage

>>531214068
The easy fix, is a balance pass on the current skills and unfuck the soft caps and scaling.
I believe John Drecom will come up with a paid option to "awaken" skills.

You niggas talk as if having a little evasion didn't invalidate 90% of the game already

>use lingering blossom
>enemy attack misses
ok

>>531216005
>ehehs stakakckead evvvaisoisins

>>531170192
Vit, maybe.
Its great for thieves 5 iq and 5 dex is great.

>>531202847
Lol, lmao.

Her unique is such a nigger to setup its honestly better to just spam bamboo splitter.

>random slur for no reason
Stop

I was replaying the game with Japanese voices from the beginning, and I noticed that on the second abyss, no fixed chests were available on the map. Not sure what caused this, but I noticed that I was able to redo the Bonnie and Clyde for 50 gems each, and Gessi's quest as well for another 50 gems. Anyone experience that? Or was that just an update from Drecom that reset it for some reason?

>>531217473
2nd abyss chests are buggy. several never spawned for me on my first run and it took me 3 months to get the sandals chest to respawn despite cursed wheeling my ass off and successfully respawning other chests in the meantime.

>>531217473
Its buggy as hell. Did you already finished once?

>trying to get Head Chef bondmate
>you have to turn in all his requests to him
>just turned in the last one at the Guild
Well at least I earned some gems from requests I forgot to do

>>531212554
Just use your +20 Saber
You do have one from the collab, right?

>>531218441
I already finished all factions on the 2nd abyss and 3rd abyss The bonnie and clyde one was a surprise. I'm not sure what trigger that since I already did the three arena battles and their best ending, so it was an easy 100 gems for me. Maybe because I started from the tutorial and there was some overlook by the devs? I will try again this weekend to see if there are any gem requests that can be done again.

I haven't seen any dolls in 3 runs of the cave, and I'm only at 14/50...

>>531218478
Who was he? He literally killed WO and walked off the ship to become the chef somewhere else.

>>531212659
>guys PLEASE care about what whales are doing please please please PPPLLLEEEEAAASSSSEEEEEE
eek ook me roll for elf pussy only

Cold bitch finally warmed up. Not worth the time at all, like the rest of the speed bondmates. Drecom really don't want you getting extra speed easily.

>>531047037 (OP)
>Human Nin Edition

>>531220537
Go floor 1 only

>>531221313
That's what I've been doing.

>>531221535
If you want to be really quick about it just check the first mob and leave

>>531193158
Well if she isn't happy she is more than welcome to give me my katana back

>>531212659
obviously they're balanced for level 70 (coming soon) and they won't get much like ninja post 30 while the other classes catch up

>>531221062
You know what titles like mentor dearest mean? Do they effect anything?

>>531222151
>I will never have this
it hurts

>>531222535
They're randomly given and don't do anything yet AFAIK.

Hmmm, seems like a good idea to inherit Will to fight on Samurai... I might feed an Olive to the cat

>>531211132
Ninja MC's really good so I'd go with that once he's maxxed out

ninja mc is the best because if you crit every party member will suck your dick

>>531224921
What about counter attack and follow up?
Also gandolfo is one handsome mf

>>531227317
What about magic and divane crits?

what can i do against ambushes?
i cant farm because i die every 10 minutes to a dumb ambush even though im not going into the enemy ass-backwards

>>531227579
Counter Attack is valuable on all of you physical attackers.
Follow Up seems to be of lower value than on others because the stance chance skill that does a normal attack doesn't seem to be able to trigger it, but it'll work on regular normal attacks and counter attacks as normal.

>>531228039
Assault Guard on every one, otherwise detect max, and Yeka inherits.

>>531222641
she's quite potent

Is ninja doll cave quest weekly or daily?

>>531228039
Ass guards and wash your ass you stinky hobo

>>531228457
Weekly. We'll get two or three of them.

My wife and her wife

>>531228663
God, look how flat her tits are...

>>531229103
Please put the mask back on...

>>531228663
This got me wondering if we'll get doctor as a character down the line. Pre-skeleton obviously, like a demon party member. Does Wizardry have demon party members?

>>531229103
is bro mewing?

>>531228309
WTF is quickdraw potentially even better than bamboo? she gets a dodge and counter right?

>>531229103
>91 STR
bros tatemaxxing

>>531225407
how do you play ninja MC? conceal and spam covert strike?

>>531230853
it's kinda niche, it only works against physical attacks and she only evades once+if she doesn't evade an attack it hits like a wet noodle

>>531222535
It means the kind of sexual relationship you shared with that bondmate. Mentors give you nursing hand jobs, Rivals fight with you to be on top, etc.

3 days

>>531232219
Fuck off

How do I unlock ninja for MC, how do I unlock samurai for MC, is samurai actually a good class on MC

>>531234863
>samurai for MC
in 6 months
>ninja for MC
beat guarda once, technically you can unlock the sand nigga cave when you arrive at the third abyss but you wont be able to become a ninja until you buttfuck its GWO at least once

Fellow anon masketta mans, you leveled wanderer lvl 60 for the upcoming Mage Trial, right?

>>531224921
Does Will to Fight give buffs that overwrite other buffs? I was worried about bricking my Shiou with it so I haven't fed her an Olive yet.

>>531236493
Nah I'm leveling Mage. I'm going to level every class eventually, so Wanderer will be the last one unless they get new skills.

>>531236618
I don't think so, I don't recall ever seeing buffs appear out of nowhere on my Fighters or Masketta Man's status bar.
I think Ninja's dodge > attack buff is the only one works like that.

>5 children

>>531238236
My hopes is that bringing a beat stick will help alleviate things

>>531240023
IS THAT
ARE THOSE

>>531240023
Yeah I would put 5 children in her too

>>531227579
>Priest Gandolfo
Soul

>>531231856
Does it come with a taunt?

>>531240863
lol

What is the Morgus contract and how long would it take to get it starting from a position of having the request to unlock the catacombs available?

Does it really offer a significant increase in XP?

>>531241927
I'm a retard regarding math but without contract you get 8300ish exp from double ninja in Heat Hazer farm, with contract you got 11300 ish. So I guess a 30% increase, thats nothing to scoff at. Leveled both NIN MC and Shion in the same weekend because of the heat haze farm + contract.

>>531228309
>359 HP at lv40
That's a beefy Shiou, is she disciplined ?

>>531242614
That answered question 2 very well, I see now that it's worth it.

I still have no idea what it is though.
Can it be accessed easily? Do I need to use org for it?
Can you explain for someone who has never set foot in the catacombs?

>>531231636
Yep, and his normal attacks which are quite strong. I like using HA3 and precision strike too

>get shiou in first 10 roll
>still have over 100 rolls
is it worth it to roll for dupes? her discipline is good isn't it? I guess it doesn't do much still
with how it is right now, almost no way I'm going to invest in another unit, I'm pretty well rounded out, so may as well just buff everyone I have

>>531241927
>Does it really offer a significant increase in XP?
Yeah, around 30% like the other anon said. Killing the 50 dolls with it I got ninjer MC from 49 to 54 and Shiou from 40 to 49. Might reach 60 by next week, I recommend it if you're confident you can avoid MC's dying during your farm.
To unlock the catacombs you must complete the "Expose the intruder" request after Guarda's good end, Morgus is waiting at the bottom

Holy SHIT Shiou's blossom stance is fucking TRASH.
>use it
>get hit to sub 30% HP
>charge the follow up attack
>get hit again and die before attacking
You can't even use porto to rush the attack turn because she flushes her 3 buff slots when she endures the initial hit, and you can't stack eva because she needs low eva to take the initial hit.
Can't believe I fell for the meme and rolled this stupid cunt and her THREE TURN setup combo. My Elise deals practically the same damage over 3 turns but she doesnt have a huge chance to die midway through and deal no damage at all. This subhuman whore is just a bamboo splitter bot and nothing else.

>>531243494
Discipline is sort of a meme unless you can whale enough to actually hit max. Personally I'd save for future characters, but you think you're sticking with Shiou you could try. The problem is you might not get another shirou until you hit pity.

>>531243281
It's basically a permanent buff in exchange for a penalty in the case your MC dies (which is a teamwide loss of all xp accumulated since your last level up), you can cancel it anytime though so it's not going to brick your account or anything

>>531243984
The buffs are good enough by themselves, don't get distracted by the big flashy skill

Is it worth it or should I just buy a dupe?

>>531243984
>THREE TURN setup combo
Should only be two Use skill, activate attack next turn.

>>531190483
Could use new fas. At 20., well id do a 4* white even to 20.

It would reroll everything and make them 2/2/2/2 minimum.
I just did it myself on an ebonsteel sord20.
Resuts were great.

>>531244689
Buy a dupe.

>>531245078
Original product
>picrel

>>531245432
New fas used on an upgraded +20.
All those stats are still refinable/alterable

>>531244448
>shes really good guys just ignore her unique attack
lmao. new shioucope just dropped.
>>531244776
its a charge attack like fps, so it's 3 turns total if you include the taunt turn, but she can usually activate the attack turn instantly after charging if she has enough aspd. not nearly as bad to use as that anon experienced but shes definitely inconsistent and dependent on having really good gear.

>>531244689
Dupe
You'll get better katanas with each new update

>>531247290
I love my ugly beast mate Shiou

So is fighter just irrelevant now because of samurai or is there still stuff fighter does better?

>>531246230
Wouldn't be the first time a character's value lies in the passives benefits provided by his kit

>>531248781
fighters are much bulkier than samurai because they dont increase incoming damage like sam do. plus they can equip shields. that's about it.

Got str boon 6bo shiou... Where do I dump the points?

>>531248781
>So is fighter just irrelevant now
no, there aren't 3 samurai
scroll up
why did the whale Shiou have 0 fort? ask yourself that anon

>>531248781
They can pretty much use all equipment, so they can actually take advantage of whatever the next Horned Eagle Sword is, or equip certain equipment for damage reduction.

This 5x ninja fight is bullshit.

>>531246230
to be fair who knows when is the next time we'll get a samurai so

>>531253604
How long did we take from Ninja adventures release until the class release?

>>531253804
6 months

>>531254096
Guess that will be time spam for Sam, unless John Drecom plans to pump content non stop until anniversary?

Do you think Iarumas will get a samurai class change down the line?

>>531251791
Debuff their accuracy, evasion and action speed. Buff your evasion. Having multiple healers/mages helps to keep heals and debuffs applied. Try and focus on killing one at a time or just get lucky if you have a ninja
The instakills are the biggest pain but their damage isn't too bad outside of that.

>>531254484
He'll get a class change to "Ancient Samurai" and it'll just shift his stats and skills to be more Fighter focused instead of Mage focused like he is now.

>>531254875
He can chase any attack with Tziak

Come to think of it
sam mask might be brick because do you really want him to be a glass cannon? at least fighter and ninjer have their defensive options. Sam is straight up just more damage when low and more damage taken. Sam is a class for your mooks so you can rev them after they do their stupid death charge

>>531254484
He's not even a real samurai, he's just a poseur!

>>531254484
i hope not. samurai wouldnt do anything for him. i'd prefer he get mage, fighter, or thief for passives.

need a chaser focused class, hope lord is the one...

>>531256496
Samurai would make him even more of a bosskiller, with samurai he could actually use his SP pool to deal damage while falling back to Tzalik when SP runs out.

>>531256639
>making a safe backline bosskiller into a risky frontline bosskiller
pass. gimmie reduced tzalik cost from wotm instead pls.

>>531256985
you'll get wotm from proving grounds shop

>>531257281
inb4 they nerf the scrolls to be upgrade only like they did with the fighter rerun

they released human nin and ninja mc to prepare you for ninja proving grounds in 3 months

>>531257860
I'm gonna duo that shit with Kiriha, no fucking way I'm leveling another Ninja

I already want den dispatches back...

>>531257441
I imagine they actually gonna pull that shit right off the bat. Japanese gacha fuckers tend to be greedy.

>>531218478
As long as you turned in one of those four to him directly, he should still appear after you kill the GWO. I only turned in two of the four to him myself.

>>531242614
after you talk to morgus once can you just warp to him?
and can you take off a contract once accepted?

>>531264476
Yes for both questions, once you spoke with him for the first you just pick the purple pad in the entrance and warp right away. Once you are done with the contract, return to Morgus and tell him you wanna terminate the contract.

Does shiou still works even without dupes

>>531266792
nope. she's too squishy because of her increased incoming damage taken and lack of a shield, so she needs d9 for the extra bulk. dont bother with her unless you've got money to burn.

Farmed 5 heat fey today
Gonna use LFAS on kunai and gloves cuz they rolled dogshit

>>531269116
and also finished my green 3* katana

>>531269116
gz
I did ninja MC last week and finishing shiou this week
only gotten 2 1* exquisite katanas and 11 covert kunais, rolled a 3* with eva but I have 2 2* with surety as the base stat, just going to alter the 2nd stat to surety on both and call it a day with those
nice katana

>>531269325

>>531248781
Fighter:
-can use a variety of different weapons for different situations and switching is free in this game
-can wear heavy armour (not a major factor given the focus on EVA right now, but does mean you can use a wider variety of equipment with good rolls)
-vulnerability from damage boosting ability (War Cry) can be dispelled with ABIT
-wider variety of characters available (different elemental coverage, different abilities, more class change combinations)
-gets more in the way of passive abilities that boost performance (helped again by the wider variety
-more fighter characters in the pool means leveling up fighter skills is easier at present
-needs much less experience to hit maximum
-doesn't need to roll for specific gear (katana) and doesn't have to split upgrade slots between two damage stats (also enhances survivability overall).

I think overall the balance is decent. It's very much like the Ninja-Thief comparison; like Ninja, Samurai will benefit a lot from investment and support - fighter or thief passives, possibly even running a knight frontline to cover them, etc. and will give you big damage in return, but you could invest the same resources into a fighter that will still remain a flexible and versatile pick that can fit into compositions. Honestly intra-class balance is one of the things I think the game gets right overall, with the possible exception of Knight (and that's less an issue with the class design per se and more with how turn order works in this game; the knight kit is completely fine, they just lack the ability to time it right)

>>531269116
FAS'd this shit was eva and acc before
rolled atk and sur LMFAO

>>531273221
>15
Wouldn't you want to FAS at 20 now?

>>531243984
Still can't get Shiou's blossom to ephemeral combo to work without getting lucky. Doesn't seem possible to do safely.
Even adjusting my Alice's speed to Porto Shiou after she tanks a hit but before she charges ephemeral, and lowering the enemy's action speed, Shiou still can't attack before the enemy's next action. I always have to gamble that the enemy won't kill her before the ephemeral charge finishes.
Also, I've learned the DPS of this combo is total trash. By spamming Bamboo Splitter instead, you still have to pray you don't get hit but at least your damage comes out turn 1 instead of turn 3 and you deal more damage per turn overall.

Really, this character is just a fucking mess. Her unique skills are generally never worth using unless you're fighting a wind weak boss and want to gamble for some reason. Either you delete the boss after it's second attack (that luckily doesn't target Shiou) or you fuck around doing literally nodamage for 2 turns before dying.
She desperately needs the charge turn on ephemeral removed or reworked to come out instantly while using speed buffs and debuffs. Has no reasonable use case otherwise.

>>531274354
Hmm if you have Arboris or anyone that got Astral man skill you can send him to the backline behind Shiou and guarantee she will act first. Tested this way with Cyclops early, just need to be careful with the damage thresholds if you do a lot of damage he will concentrate and bop right of the bat making the timing awkward.

>>531270845
Skill soft caps are probably the largest class balance problem that exists right now, and probably shouldn't exist I feel.

>>531274326
+0 on any items you want to alter before +20
if you dont care and will alter after +20, it literally doesn't matter now

>>531275867
How do lesser ones work? I have a +20 ring I want to reroll would it be ok?

>>531274829
I have Arboris, but I don't want to use him, and I really don't like that I might have to field a second limited unit to get this first limited unit to work. No other character I use needs babying this expensive for their kit to function at a basic level.
Overall I'm so disappointed in this banner. Bugen has no legs because he has to be used as fodder or your account is bricked, and Shiou may as well be a nameless samurai for how bad her unique skills are.

How can you be disappointed in a samurai catgirl
You a fag buddy?

must be that one anon who spent 200 bucks and got nothing

>>531276123
I agree with the part its a fucking skill madness to build her, you gonna spend a lot of exp scrolls to increase basic shit to lvl 3 like Bamboo and her ultimate. But hitting for 5-6k with shitty gear a cyclops with at least a setup that I don't consider much of a hassle for my current team I don't think its a bad character at all.

>>531243984
Honestly I only ever use it as an Endure type if skill where I know I'm getting killed the next turn. The setup is too stupid to work most of the time. Fighters with HA lv 3 and FPS are good for 99% of the content anyway. Samugirl is only really all that useful for minmaxing boss fights (Morg is probably way easier thanks to her since she cam flush down half his HP in 2 turns).

Doing a billion damage with an easily set up skill 100% of the time every fight would be retarded anyway
It's good against strong solo enemies, doesn't have to be good against everything

>>531277153
>Doing a billion damage with an easily set up skill 100% of the time every fight would be retarded anyway
you rang?

>>531277364
Yeah but he takes more turns to do the same damage, he's more slow and steady
Still good obviously

fey heat haze junk doesn't exist stop gaslighting me with your obviously photoshopped screenshots.

how do you farm your exps
levelling ninjas and samurai beyond level 40 is fucking hell.

>>531281292
You throw them into the dispatch mines and come back in a month.

>>531281973
but I want to use them now...

>>531281292
the weekly doll thing should almost max them out I think, once it's gone

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jJmPPNjcjY8
lvl3 seems to be a good stopping point for her unique
also wtf red brick's buff is so fucking op

>>531256563
anon... Lord is paladin.
a tank that supports with buffs, taunts and heals.
it will never ever EVER be a chaser class

Ranger Masketta will save the game.

>>531281292
you don't power level them past 40. Just keep them in your party as you farm higher level stuff
Not like you're losing out on much aside from some stats

>>531266792
Shw works for me.

how is inherited blessing of agora scaled? does it still give 2 turns at lvl 3 or is it delayed and you should just get 1 level from eating alice and call it?

>>531289407
+2 turns at lv3 for Alice.
+2 turns at lv5 for infidels.

>>531289549
Eh good enough. I prefer Yek over her so if I ever get my hands on Yek priest book and a spare alice she's replacing the evil bitch

Agora will remember that

>>531275171
It would be hard to work out a way around it given how the whole skill system is built with gacha scarcity in mind. Maybe a compromise would be modestly raising the attribute cap on skills with each adventurer Grade Up (but mathing it such that you'd still need more skill levels to hit the absolute max cap for a given grade level range)

It still links progression to time-gated gacha resources (tags) and still allows you to overpower content at the level cap by also getting to level 7 skills, but keeps the variance from getting too high.

>>531274354
Some ideas:
-boost her action speed with gear
-use a Knight to Cover her
-Attract Hit/Defensive Taunt with another character (still gambling of course)
-keep her in regular stance and speed tune priest to heal her to full right after she activates Ephemeral so she can at least handle one hit

I've noticed it's very possible for her to get in the blow before the opponent that hit her goes again, but haven't been testing against anything really high-level yet and it can be risky in fights involving multiple enemies.

>>531290965
You also have Sheli's inherit and WoTK, granted it's still RNG but they help. Shiou is Sheli's inherit marketing strat by drecom.

I'll just use bamboo splitters with the cat, and if for some reason she gets hit and now at sub 30% hp, i'll use unique. Problems? Weren't.

>>531291623
dont forget to use your hard earned codexes to get her splitter to lvl2 it gives like 30% increased damage

why does Rinne flash her bosom at me like that

>update data has been found

>>531291819
looks like they're cracking down on gem farmers
they're going in debt

John Drecom reads the wizg...

>>531291971
>reclaimed
Reminder to not cheat.

thank you Elmon. Keep up the good work smiting lowly exploit abusers

>>531291971
They're so fast when it comes to Gem related bug lmao.

wtf i have -3000 jims????

>>531291971
What was the issue again?

>>531291971
what do you mean?
this is the first time I've heard about this bug and i browse wizg 24/7

GWOS....

>>531217473
>13 hours ago
Elmonposter did it again

>>531292375
buy a pack gaijin

>>531292361
there was a post yesterday about getting gems from replaying bonnis and clydus quest

>>531274326
Yeah 20 is ideal now. At least for big fas.
Little fas is lvl1

>>531292952
oh yeah but i thought that shit was like 1+ time only not infinite

>>531276072
Lessers do not retain refines/level upgrades. Its fresh reroll and do nothing. Its what you do to lvl 1 gear.

did they ever do the gem debt thing b4?

human-pri is too popular

>pri
but imagine if they release alts for the nonames

>>531294315
imagine the smell

>>531294453
Sheli's anus is smellier

>>531289549
So for alice starved f2p only level 1 for designated buffer is worth right?

>>531294315
Picture unrelated?

Does feeding Agoras to Shiou do anything?

>Map Assist shows all the exits + fountains on a fogged map
If you turned this on, you actually cheated yourself.

>>531295686
It's a really good idea to give Agora to your multiclassed magepriests like Yeka and Adam.

>>531294315
requesting ninchan doing a winky kissy face while pulling her mask down

my dispatch mines are for farming junk
I actually never needed my units powerleveled

>>531296073
Yes. Don't do it

we need more mp classes
the caster optimal combo being mage + priest is getting boring

j-just one more covert kunai and I can bring it to +15

>>531299846
20....

>beat ninja cave boss fight with 4 of my party members dead
>lol suicide bomb you gotta redo the dungeon and fight
I should've seen it coming at this point but man fuck you
The ninja boss theme is kino at least.

>>531299895
most hetero wizardry party

>>531301301
-3000 gems gift
You rike?

>>531269116
Never saw a heat haze fey in all my farming since the cave released...

>>531303373
I saw it once
it dropped fuckall, as expected

>>531300575
wdym, Sheli is here it's a filthy waifufag (she's worse than Elf-mag btw)

>>531304941
Please understand, biologically male posters lose their mind when they see any males(including the ones in mirrors)

>>531298192
Knight +priest is quite good. Fighter with priest is also not bad.>>531299846

>>531299895
Its my nigga gwednylion.

as blessings lose value the stronger base equipment becomes
maybe one day, 2 hand weapons will be superior

>>531305030
>weekly Sheli melty
>Shiou already shitposted to death a few days after her release
Yep, it's totally anti-males posters you tell them sis !

>>531305030
gwo im the one who posted the homo joke and i use a mostly male party...

waifufags are just as annoying as homos

>>531305030
More like inferior sea nigger stock

>>531306524
On the net. In RL fags beat them eaisly

>>531306632
Like in illegal fight clubs?

>>531303373
i farmed around 3-4k sand cave junk total
around 300 of that were heat haze junk
around 3 of that were heat haze fey junk

MEOW MEOW MEOW *licks paw*
*licks balls*
*yawn*
*big stretch*
NYONTENT????

>>531307742
they are gonna fix the bug that causes samurai to deal more damage than normal

>>531307818
wouldnt be surprised
cat/3
bamboo/2

>>531307818
>>531308338
won't happen until her banner is over retards, they want her to sell

>>531308443
all sales are made on the first day

>>531308443
they fixed arboris' "bug" while he was still on banner tho...

>>531308593
it's harder to refund purchases if they nerf her a month after her release

they could unironically nerf samurai by 25-33% and it would still be a strong viable class
honestly I kinda hope they do even though I spent 20k gems on my cat, it would be better for the long-term health of the game

Refunds?

>>531309127
Fuck off Elmon

>>531307459
Yes.
We kidnap them off the street and steal their shoes until they fight.
The winner gets to keep the others shoes.

>>531309794
Law and order!

Sent my level 50 Rinne on Trade EXP dispatch
as a chaperone to Shiou
They both got the same amount of EXP.
>58k
>68k
>84k
Not sure if its a bug but I was expecting Rinne to get ~20k for being over level

>>531290965
>-boost her action speed with gear
this is probably the best solution but it depends on exactly how aspd stacking works mechanically.
>use a Knight to Cover her
>Attract Hit/Defensive Taunt with another character (still gambling of course)
using a second character with defensive skills to increase the odds in your favor slightly seems wasteful. in situations where your team needs a knight's defense spammer already it's probably fine but in other scenarios 2 fighters outdamage shiou + tauntspam knight while being safer
>keep her in regular stance and speed tune priest to heal her to full right after she activates Ephemeral so she can at least handle one hit
she takes extra damage in ephemeral stance so healing from 1 hp to full might not matter against bosses unless she has multiple expensive inherits like unyeilding will to fight, wotk, and adam's skill to survive. however, some of these skills will fuck with her ability to enter 1 hp in the first place.
>>531296073
alice's skill makes all her self buffs, including the taunt from ephemeral, last an extra turn. she has a 100% chance to endure a lethal hit once per taunt, with subsequent endures during the same taunt's duration having under a 50% chance to activate.
some people are still doing it though to get use out of quickdraw.

>>531317402
Would she want Savia's Taunt/counter?

>>531318403
No. Why?

>>531318403
no. savia's inherit is for backrow ninjas.

grandpa, I'm filming, go away, go away!

Just went all Str on my new Bugen

>>531321014
How’s he supposed to know when he can’t see you there?

does putting the lvl1 treasure chest detect inherit on everyone do anything for ambushes?

>>531327578
I don’t think that affects regular detect just the one related to chests, so probably not.

>>531329576
80% seems pretty fucking consistent

>>531329576
so the chance of being targeted increased based on skill level is a lie? or the sample is just to small.

>>531330053
It might just shoot up to 90 and 100 at lv 5 and 7, who knows.

have you already decided on your final party formation?
meaning you started inheriting stuff on everyone because you have no one you want to replace

>>531332658
I'm waiting for the fairy before blowing my inherit load

>>531332827
God I hope the fairy is good. My biggest fear is that they curse her with super low max HP, and whatever Sheli-like defensive passive they give her won't be nearly enough to make her comfortable to use, necessitating hyper-investment via D9 and leveled HP passives.

>>531332658
My general purpose farming party is pretty much set in stone, my boss killing party is still up for grabs

>>531274354
I finally got it to work.
Fought a Minotaur in the exp daily today, and I had to Porto Shiou, then Batilgref and Delay Attack lv3 the Mino, and Shiou actually got her Ephemeral attack off before the Mino's second attack. Just barely.
Can't imagine that working against something like a vampire, but at least she finally pulled it off without risking death.
Except If the Mino somehow lived the attack, Shiou probably would have died since she only had 1 HP going into his next attack. This skill is still so fucking shit lmao.

Is it possible/feasible to clear the Ninja cave to the point of turning off the traps at level 50?
Really would rather not uncap while grinding a bunch of stuff for Masketta Man.

>>531332658
Really only considering rolling for Tzalikman come his potential rerun as a flex backline boss killer as opposed to the backline fighter or knight I currently use. But I don't think he really demands much inheriting.

>>531332658
I’m a masked whore who can’t get enough adventurers so no.
Abenis is the only one I’ve put significant resources into. Everyone else is at skill level 1 or 2 across the board.

>>531335986
Its a last resort move. She is going to be dropped the second Abe can become Samurai.

>the lingering blossom attack buff takes bamboo splitter from 950x2 to 1000x2
give me my gems back

>>531339645
lingering blossom is a brick, just use way of the knight and pray

>>531332658
I have decided that Lana is on my main team forever and have maxed her skill and inherit various skills. Working on the next main pillar member now.

>>531339645
What level LB? Should level it to at least 3.

>>531332658
Nah. I mean Maraiane have latufomis3 but that is all. Most of my adventures are on disc 0 or 1 at best. It's more fun this way

they should add a way to use your adventurers when you're not using them
no, dispatches don't count. Maybe some kind of fortitune draining marathon check or something

>>531344690
I’d like multi-party dungeons.
Like you’ve got the main section where your Masketta man and friends have to go through and clear, and then additional parties have to fight their way through clearing obstacles, opening otherwise inaccessible switches and stuff.

>>531344690
just take them bone farming gwo

Anyone else notice monthly bones respawning in less than a week after they were picked up lately?

>autoing ninjer cave
>kunai Rinne drops a crunchy ass crit on the scorpion bitch
feels good every time

>>531345314
No.

sure, cat might be hitting more generally than an elemental weakness hitting berk but there is no powercreep to worry about

>>531346648
QRD on Berk. How did she do that ?

>>531347025
disc 9 inherit 7

>>531347025
Magic. The world is her coin to throw

>>531347025
Her unique spell has some very silly scaling and/or soft caps.
Level 4 and above start skyrocketing in damage, while also being super MP efficient.
Coupled with stacking a shitload of Surety so it could surety on a fire weak enemy for the 60% bonus.

>>531348154
or you could just get a D0 no inherit cat for the same damage LMAO

Finally I can play the game again

>>531332658
Lana & Alice are deff in my team forever

>>531350084
Damn he looks like hes GWOing out.

>still no Lana Warrior book
Bros what do I do

>>531350610
I got mine from the event
best thing to do

Who's the best low investment Thief for pure chest opening? I remember Amelia, Philip and some other elf Thief being the contenders.

>>531351084
milana usually, especially with class change.

>>531350946
I was rerolling for sheli then and only got 1 book
I even fucking forgot to use it and it expired :(

>>531351234
is there a more bricked units than viviana?
>useless inherit
>bad cc
>no one uses her as a thief
>useless character

>>531347025
Someone fucked with the scaling for her unique spell, so it starts doing double digit damage at lvl1 and ramps all the way to 20-30k at max.

>>531351234
Should I look for a specific boon for chest opening?

>>531332658
sheri and alice, can't make up my mind on anyone else, haven't even put hs3 on anyone besides myself

>>531351756
IQ to make autofails less common
Dex to make the minigame easier

breaking: with certain layouts you can farm floor 8 abyss 3 when entering through the front door and leaving
the trap room mobs drop chests

>>531351397
>I even fucking forgot to use it and it expired
That happens? wait what?

>>531352264
He probably didn’t turn the event token in, not the class book itself.

>>531351234
How does high Disipline Amelia compare? I have a couple dupes. Does she need a IQ boon to compete?

>>531353062
shes a worse chest opener but has more max hp.
her inheritable skill is valuable and her personal skill kinda sucks so you should probably use milana or olive instead.

I need more gold... Is selling my shit from ninja cave optimal? Trying to take a few things to +15 and its about 100k every time from +10

>>531354250
If you've beaten guarda, the request "expedition to clear the fortress lower levels" isn't too hard and gives 23k each time. Just make sure you kill the two greater demons in the final fight at the same time.

>>531351620
>I invested in Tiazkian instead.

>>531350946
>event
Which event? I feel like I’ve seen anons mentioning an event regarding class books.

how experienced is your cat? will she get 60 before next week?

>>531355709
>before next week
lol, no. I'm going to make use of the weekly exp quests and save myself the bullshit grinding. I'm not playing this shit 24/7

>>531354728
There's class change events, they give currency for 2 books and then class change tickets that let you freely move between any learned class

>>531355709
3.3mil, haven't done cave weekly yet
There is no content to speedrun to lvl60 though. We aren't getting any new events this month, just mage trial

>>531356182
>>531356249
how the fuck are you guys getting your +20 exquisite katana then?
im at 8m and i still dont have enough katanas to +20 and i have been spamming ninjer cave since samurai release

>>531356249
is that next patch?

Good riddance.

>>531356725
>falling for the +20 meme
Hmmmmmm, nyo.

>>531356725
If I get it, I get it. I'm just playing for fun.

>>531356725
I will wait for next abyss katana

>abyss 4 releases
>I will wait for next abyss katana
>abyss 5 releases
>I will wait for next abyss katana
>abyss 6 releases
>...

>>531357460
Going to +20 is simply a huge waste of resources unless you godroll one.

is this general a cesspool of casuals?
are you guys still stuck on gamblers?
or even worse the doll

>>531351620
How much MP does it cost at levels that make it deal big dick damage?

>>531358067
im not stuck on the doll i'm just...hanging out with it.

>>531358067
If casual means not opening my wallet or not spending all of my free time playing a game that really wants me to open my wallet, then yes.

Playing casually is the only correct way to play gachaslop, simple as

>>531358067
I saved 200 Adv bones for Bugen and didn't get him... I'm a casual...

>>531355709
She's getting 800k a day from dispatches. She's at 6 mil now.

you can clear this game with 5 nameless adventurers 0 disc 0 inherit
it's a skill issue, cope

>>531360659
Post your clear with 5 nameless adventurers 0 disc 0 inherit or fuck off

>>531360627
>800k a day from dispatches
How? Mine only gets around 110k per dispatch.

FPS is the best skill in the game at LV1. You don't actually need high skill levels. Just 3 fghters + 1 Knight + 2 Priests/Mage to buff/heal will carry you through any hard fight.

>>531360961
bamboo splitter hits harder get on with the times grandpa

So for an Mage/Priest that can CC to Priest/Mage, is it better to keep them as a Mage after roundtripping, since Mages are much faster?

>>531360936
Lv 40 with good gear and items + a geared lv60 Priest/Mage nets me 130K~ per round. 3 rounds per dispatch. 2 dispatches a day.

>>531360961
sorry sweaty, bamboo splitter is the new best attack. fps has been totally powercrept. just ignore that samurai in wave crest stance take 1.5x damage and roll for shiou right fucking nyao.

>>531361241
hell no, priests are much tankier mage is a brick unless its called shelirionach

All my best Ebon Gear is Heavy and EVA is dead. No way am I using a Frontline class that can only equip Cloth/Light armor in this DEF meta.

You just know they're gonna give Thieves some kind of super backstab at 61->70 after all of this neglect

>>531361241
unless you like scraping your healer off the floor, no. priest alice has almost 150 more hp than mage alice at level 60. that's bigger than the hp boost from d0 to d9.

>>531361910
>at level 70
>get Pickpocket
>chance to steal 100 gold
>chance to fail and get hit by monster

>>531360659
With really fucking good gear that took hundreds of hours to grind
It's not really a "skill issue"

>>531362389
>sneak up on Bonepicker and yoink his bone, saving 1000g
Totally worth it gwo

>>531360961
Is FPS really that good, I've always just used heavy attack level 3 on all of my fighters.

>>531356725
I have +20 saber. It wolne enough for now.

>>531358067
Nah I'm stuck on uber necrocore,double golem fight, gambler bondmate, morgus and all the other obscure and tough as fuck fights I don't even feel like attempting.

>>531363292
more SP efficient, goes through def better
Also gives you a turn to setup buffs debuffs for more damage

Overall its better if you aren't racing damage and want to conserve resources, Heavy Attack 3 has overall more dmg output at twice the SP cost

>>531358067
Don't care have fun.
I still didn't get perfect in guarda and need to do 2 other ways but I am not in the hurry

>>531363292
It's over twice the damage for half the SP

>>531358598
It stats dealing decent dmg at lvl4/13mp (about 2k) and it's only up from there

>>531361457
>takes 1.5x damage
source?

>>531360961
Samurai is a flex for that fighter spot just like neutralman was. And knights aren't needed in every fight, so you can go for more DPS.

>>531362506
woaahhh don't tell the hard-core grinders that you don't need to spend hundreds of hours grinding gear to play the game if you got the good units that work with bottom tier gear!!!!

>>531364024
how much magic attack do you need stacked to get that much?

Reached 60 with my cat

>>531367240
Sad to say but if you go ahead and rest the recent few posts you will learn that your Shiou is useless

The amount of bad faith FUD you gwos put it is frankly unbelievable and I simply do not believe anything you say over autistic, balding 45 year old Japanese men.

What are the nips saying?

>>531367354
>useless
>poorfag detected

>>531367730
They're saying
>エルモンを輪姦したい

>>531367730
From what I've seen they rank Shirou decently high but Bugen very low, which I'm not sure I agree with even if Bugen's speed sort of cripples him.

>>531368028
She is decent DMG dealer at 40lv and with +20 saber
T. Discipline 0

>>531367240
How do you level so fast?

>>531368143
I think it's because you can just Inherit him to a Fighter and be better off

>>531368143
broski these tierlists are useless dogshit
>drigga
better than sheli, iaru and rinne
LOL
LMAO even
>Debra
Same tier as aldric or rinne
KEK
and so on

>>531356221
Oh yeeaaaahhh, I got the ones for Yeka and Alice from that. Do they happen every now and then? Ever since I started playing I think I’ve only seen it happen once.

>>531368536
Drigga is that good though?

>>531368536
The English fan page dude plainly states that he doesn’t understand why other sites love Arboris so much. I never rolled for him either so idk what the fuss is about, but seems like the Jap sites unanimously consider him to be top tier.

>>531368796
no?
the only thing going for him is his skill
which is better when inherited by other party members
probably the worst discpline in the game too

>>531368702
Every few months, next will probably be next month I think, or the month after that

>>531368493
ninjer cave

>>531369108
Because he basically has his own tzalik for free with no investment. That's probably it. I use him and it's nice, but sneak attack might actually be more SP efficient for the damage it does, plus that doesn't miss as much.

They put the Drigga with two white chicks on purpose.

Baking...

Why is Debra in S lol

>>531369805

>>531367176
300 and you already get that, it also can crit, and the def down debuff is unique.

>>531369169
that's a d0 list bozo

>>531354728
It was for the half-anniversary iirc, I was a noob when it came out and bought Alex's fighter scroll