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/sthg/ #8443 - Anti-Amy Edition
==NEWS==
>TailsTube #12 - Life Hackshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3WmM7nVq_I
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Animation Teaserhttps://youtu.be/qFDJ6zMyq-k
>Sonic Racing - Cross the Worlds - (Opening ver.) - Performed by James Bourne of Bustedhttps://youtu.be/OR9FGj1Bj70
>Sonic Rumble global launch delayed:https://sonicrumble.com/GLDelay
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 will be released on March 19, 2027https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/
==Comics Release Dates==
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog #5 - 23 July 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #80 - 30 July 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #81 - 03 September 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary Special - 24 September 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 04 Mar 2026
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Where is Silver's tall blonde human woman?
>>531137778huh
>That day, if our positions were switched, would our fates be different? Would I have your life, and you mine?
>>531137675 (OP)She's the Dark-Amy.
Reminder that Shadow is a feminist.
SEX WITH SONIC SEX WITH SONIC
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good night
>>531138004What the hell is this from?
>>531137983lol based Shadow
This is Tails, my favorite Sonic character
>>531138007that tear in his wetsuit was made by my teeth btw
>>531138004Saleta is cool
>>531137983Wonder how the youtuber who originally made that latina joke feels now
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>>531138064One of our drawfags I think.
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I don't wanna do anything with my life except mate with Sonic and be in heat with him forever
>>531137983notice how you hardly hear about this meme anymore
>>531138198Pretty sure mentioned regretting it due to "fetishizing a race"
>>531138462cuck behaviour
>>531138459Tanaka always wins
>>531138462You know I always had a feeling that Jehtt would be a massive pussy
>>531138208>Hair: Fox Brown>Tails is yellowEven they were confused by SatAM/AoStH
>>531137983> Movie 1 references Sanic> Movie 2 references Ugandan Knuckles> Movie 3 references the Latinas memeMovie 4 will reference pic related, yjk
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>>531137170>>531137029I can't imagine young Ivo not being chubby, it feels wrong
>>531138459i can see Rouge being bisexual desu
>>531138685if Shadow wasn't wearing the inhibitor rings while having sex he'd kill his partner, ooc
>>531138462What is wrong with people these days? Can't they just be happy their work is being acknowledged by others in a positive way?
>>531138371Because it's more or less canon in at least one iteration. Watch, if Rouge ever appears in the movieverse, she'll literally be voiced by Jennifer Lopez and she'll literally be from Honduras. Kill the meme by making it real.
>>531138664young Ivo is Chris Thorndyke
>>531138851He's a twitter voice actor. His brain works in a really retarded way
YOU SHALL ENTER: https://www.yourworldoftext.com/sthgmansion
>>531138669There are points where they seem like they're on a date. It fuckin' rules.
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Who's long awaited return is more hype? K. Cool in Bananza, or Mephiles in Shadow Gens?
this early in the thread we already got /u/niggers stinking this place up? Oh brother
oh god Sonic i love you please let me make you mine
>>531139410The wind doesn't belong to anyone
>>531138064our resident tracefag
>>531139331Mephiles easily.
>>531138208My favorite wanted criminal
>>531138617
S-O-N-I-C GO!
S-O-N-I-C GO!
>>531139331>Beloved main antagonist of the franchise that appeared in multiple games and a cartoon but was abandoned for shitty martial arts monkeys, shitty tiki masks, and shitty vikings>Some loser that appears in one game that is a recolor of another guy and is only noteworthy for killing SonicGee I wonder
>>531137983This franchise has been frozen in time since 2018
>>5311397982010s ahhh post
>>531137675 (OP)Amy has no evil opposite because she’s not important enough for one.
I miss Topaz. I miss G.U.N in general. It's nice to see other people besides the main heroes doing stuff and fighting the good fight as well. I hate that shit where literally ONLY the main protag is allowed to accomplish anything or be useful. It's bad storytelling. G.U.N really needs to come back so the setting feels like a real setting again.
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>>531138617Tails is yellow-orange. You definitely notice when he stands next to yellower characters. If you think he's straight-up yellow, that's usually either bad lighting or bad fan-art.
>>531140132Unironically blame the Meta Era and Classicfags that thought killing off all humans and Sonic's shitty friends was a good call.
>>531139919Sonic could not outrun my taser and now he's my sex slave
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>>531139950god I love Sonegg
>>531140132I think Sega resents GUN as "the symbol" of the 2000s, and as a historical ball and chain that prevents them from revamping Shadow as the generic rival they wanted him to be during the Meta Era.
>Sonic's back quills raise up
What did he mean by this?
>>531140356Oh I'm well aware. The "shitty friends" crowd getting pandered to with that pathetic Project Needle mouse shit resulted in a fantastic punchline in which Sonic 4 came out, and it was fucking shit. Fuck these people. Culling the cast and ruining the setting isn't going to make Sonic Team any less shit at making video games.
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whenever I tie my sex slave up I always ensure his good parts are showing
>>531140132Would be cool to bring Topas back performing a Hunnigian type role for team dark.
>>531140761That’s what irl hedgehogs do when they feel threatened, they spike their quills
>>531140761it means he's in danger
>>531140132>G.U.N really needs to come back so the setting feels like a real setting again.I agree. They don't even need to be anything major, just an ordinary facet of the world: Sonic Rush just casually had a G.U.N battleship being invaded by Eggman for a stage without really commenting on it (down to being the only stage with GUN Robots as enemies).
>>531140653Sega and Sonic Team have never had a single problem with GUN, Shadow, or Maria. Everything involved with the Meta Era and stuff like Boom was done to pander to SoA and western sensibilities after 06 failed.
Even Iizuka himself doesn't view Shadow as Sonic rival.
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why does this blue rat always make me so horny
>>531141003>>531141028I wish gamenic had cute hedgehog moments like that
>>531140653Thing is, G.U.N being around doesn't at all prevent Shadow from being the rival. And quite frankly, Shadow himself is far more of a symbol of the 2000s. I think they just don't like the idea of a non-Sonic/Shadow entity that could actually do something useful.
>>531138617"Fox Brown" may be because brown is really just dark orange? I recall the words on textures that fans tend to overanalyse having some weird engrish in this game. Like, why is his Place of Birth "None"?
>>531140447>vanessacoelho868587>2018Man time flies.. I wish she would finished the sonegg comic
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>>531141340>I think they just don't like the idea of a non-Sonic/Shadow entity that could actually do something useful.I don't think you actually play the games
>>531141381He doesn't have an established or known place of birth
>>531141034Exactly. I don't need them to be ultra important in every game, I just like the idea that they're fighting Eggman's forces offscreen and covering the points that the main characters logically could not
>>531141093If they don't have a problem with G.U.N, then why'd they get rid of them?
>>531141093I hope Sonic & The Blade of Courage (and its buzz on Twitter which Sega treats as gospel - like saving Roger from being replaced as Sonic's VA) finally gives them a hint that Japanese-style writing isn't something the western fanbase hates so they finally stop going through a revolving door of "I thinku da Gaijin like this one" people like Pontaff from Happy Tree Friends or Ian/Evan.
Of course, it's SegaSammy, they're infamous for always taking the wrong lessons from anything that happens to them (good or bad), so I'm expecting it to backfire in some manner.
>>531141531He hasn't. No one currently in this general except for me has played any of the games recently enough to remember which game they played most recently and what they did in the game
>>531141772>like saving Roger from being replaced as Sonic's VATo my knowledge we never got the details as to what actually happened. I don't think Twitter had anything to do with it
Is Ian Flynn less successful than the Nutshack creators?
>>531141772>Sonic & The Blade of Courage>same writer as Jet Black HedgehogWelp, this is gonna fucking suck.
>>531141556It's West Side Island. Don't make me sicc the lore team on you.
>>531141671Sega doesn't have a problem with anything, they just do whatever they think will make them money. ST clearly doesn't hate humans or GUN because they love putting them in stuff like Sonic Channel or their new manga. The only reason stuff like the Meta Era happened is because a loud minority of people got the bigwigs at Sega to overcorrect in an attempt to pander to who they thought were the biggest crowd at the time.
>I don't need them to be ultra important in every game, I just like the idea that they're fighting Eggman's forces offscreen and covering the points that the main characters logically could notThat being said, I agree with this completely.
>>531142159Why are the french like this?
>>531142087It didn't do anything that egregious for the first chapter this time, at least. I'm a bit more hopeful since this is a standalone adventure for Sonic rather than trying to mingle among previous story events.
>>531142163He lives on Westside Island in his debut, that doesn't necessarily mean he was born there
>>531141760Only 2 of those are me.I am a woman thoughver
>>531142087>Welp, this is gonna fucking suck.How? Jet Black was amazing
>>531142087>Whining about something he doesn't know anything about because he didn't read itThis is like seeing a single image of Shadow destroying the Earth in Shad05, and then whining about them retconning Shadow into a villain.
Why did Maria fall for a creepy black hedgehog like Shadow? He's mean, he bullies other Mobians... if only Maria knew how much of a jerk her furry bf was....
I like a frontward-facing Sonic. He looks so feminine that way.
I am beginning to suspect the fanbase has a few terminal weebs who defend anything that SoJ does purely because glorious nippon.
>>531141463yeah I liked it, even though I could hardly understand what was going on, the art was good
>First Sonic cartoon with obvious sexual fanservice scenes to give the viewer erections
>The english dub casts a male actor for her because it's funny
Sega of America has always made things less sexy. Always.
I wonder what she would have been like if the series was japanese.
When I catch that stupid hedgehog
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>>531137675 (OP)Amy's manga design is just her CD design. This is off-model.
>>531142704What the fuck are you talking about? Ella?
>>531141973he's a wiener man
How many games did Pontaff actually write?
>>531142656Familiarity breeds contempt, and the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.
>>531142851Oh right, that happened twice. No I'm talking about Sonnia.
>>531142787calm down egghead
>>531142656SegaSammy doesn't deserve to be defended, but you shouldn't get mad when people don't agree with your opinions on things.
>>531141760two of those are mine and I'm a man
>>531142342https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nmzc8L8zTBk&t=117
Don't make. Me sicc. Lore team. On you.
My cute hedgehog boyfriend
>>531142894I believe it was every game from Colors > Forces, excluding Boom.
>>531143008I need to rewatch the older TailsTube episodes huh. Even so, you know this stuff will get contradicted again at some point, and it wasn't relevant in 2001 when they wrote "None" on that texture
>>531143003>you shouldn't get mad when people don't agree with your opinions on things
>>531142894Zero. They just had some part in writing the English script for Colors, Generations, Lost World, and Forces, with varying degrees of influence, with Lost World being their most, and Forces being their least
>>531143097NO HE'S MINE HANDS OFF
>>531142828>manga Amy>not Fleetwood AmyBoth are probably misinterpretations of that common Sonic & Amy artwork for CD
>>531143278I disagree with plenty of people on plenty of things, but it's kind of self destructive to default to insults and blind accusations when the point of an argument is supposed to be convincing others to better understand your side of things.
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>>531143457Amy is in the thread as well:
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>>531143441It's not. Sango Morimoto was just an off-model artist.
>>531143861now it makes sense why they confused Amy and Sally
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Is Flynn more successful than Penders? Penders got an original published comic.
>>531141381Notice that his age isn't mentioned. This is clearly pointing to the scrapped plotline where Tails was another Shadow all alone.
>>531144338The European Sonic CD manual correctly calls her Amy, so unless the American manual was written first, it seems like Sega of America tying the love interest into the comics/cartoon was deliberate.
Surge would look better with a monoeye
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>>531144509But does it have a bigger audience than DROGUNE?
>>531145374I mean it was covered by Linkara so probably.
>>531145263Maybe, but I don't think so
Stop putting Surge in a dress!
>>531143457>>531143720*Shadow BTFO's both of you*
I'm going to put Anon in a dress.
as a guy I don't understand how other guys can be into women when Sonic is way hotter than them
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>>531146575all they had to fucking do was give her the last name topaz
>>531146650Sega wouldnt allow that + Paramount doesnt want to use Sega characters
>>531145902Sonic is too straight for fagdow
>>531146214Maria! Shadow is not a toy to play around with!
>>531146761Shadow could totally force himself onto Sonic and Sonic wouldn't resist
>tailsfags hate this franchise and the wind
>>531147070Fagdow would get BTFO'd by Godnic. Sonic yearns for human women.
>>531147261Shadow can literally stop time with one chaos emerald, if he wants Sonic he can get him
>>531147391Sonic can do the same thing even with a fake emerald though
>>531147073What gave you that impression?
>>531147986deep down Sonic wants to submit and yearns for a strong man like Shadow, besides, Sonic won't know what's coming when Shadow exercises his freedom on him
>>531142087Why are you still posting this when that was fabricated by Black Doom?
>>531146130for what purpose?
>>531148752anon didn't read it after getting mad, he just assumed it was poorly written
>>531147615I'll stick to plushies of my husband.
>>531148329Sonadow is OOC for both characters. I get Shadow is a flaming homosexual, but that doesn't make Sonic one too.
Why is Black Doom picked as Shadow's nemesis over Mephiles? Isn't Mephiles more popular? He appeared in Shadow Gens, so he isn't flat out erased. So they could've used him instead of Black Doom.
>>531148832If Shadow forces himself onto Sonic enough, Sonic's body will adjust and he will start to enjoy it. Same thing happens with straight men in prison showers
>>531148860Black Doom preys on Shadow's creation and his blood courses through Shadow. Mephiles doesn't have that kind of connection with Shadow.
>>531148860Shadow Gens essentially exists to get movie fans up to speed with Shadow's story, so Doom took priority. It did bother me as well; Mephiles travels through time and is in the game all about time travel, but here he is playing second banana to a plot thread that was already tied just fine
>>531149213>using prison rape to justify sonadowkek
man your ship is so cute, not as cute as mine but no hard feelings, okay? ;)
>>531149419True love doesn't exist in the mind of the fujo.
anyone got link to the whiteboard
>>531150157Ctrl+F through recent threads or just check the whiteboard thread on /fast/ it doesn't take that long
Anyway, here https://magma.com/d/UsW84PbYNW
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in Sonic Prime Sonic can tell that Shadow is into him and Sonic flirts back... a lot.
>>531147734WHY ARE HER MILKERS SO FUCKING BIG
>>531150363>/fast/>asking for magma linkGod, even the whiteboard engagement is fake as fuck.
>>531150383Why do these faggots keep drawing Fails with a huge ass?
>>531150645Yeah all the drawings that it's currently filled with are all fake
>>531148860Mephiles is basically Infinite-tier to Shadow. He's just some seething loser Shadow beat up and then forgot exists.
>>531150710Why are you looking at his ass, faggot?
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Someone draw this with Scourge &/or Fiona
>>531150710That's literally the shape of his body
>>531150836A hedgehog credit card?!
>>531150852I have level 60 Sonic autism so I'll answer.
People will say no. People will say that Ian doesn't understand Sonic (the wind) and therefore if you hate Ian's work, you are absolved of hating Sonic.
I think this isn't accurate. Ian Flynn now has influence on the Sonic series. He isn't the lead director or any such thing, but his work is now inseparable.
We might not like what he does with the characters but things such as the english script to Frontier are just downright more cohesive than the Japanese dub of the same game.
It's too late now. Ian is embedded in. If Ian's writing makes you upset you are going to be in for a bad time with most upcoming Sonic content.
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>>531151018>such as the english script to Frontier are just downright more cohesive than the Japanese dub of the same game.Nigga, they're both ass.
I love that the moral of sonic x's story is that sonic is amazing.
>>531150734If the same artist is filling the empty gaps then yes.
>>531151263That should be the moral of every Sonic media.
>>531151284Meanwhile in reality there are several artists with at least 4 currently drawing simultaneously
how many times did starline rape surge and kit
>>531149969Fagdow acting out on his black arms instincts isn't true love
>>531151429More than he needed, less than he wanted.
>>531151227Oh? You don't like ass?
>>531150438cause it's canon
>>531151898I miss lettuce now...
>>531151793You're cutting it dangerously close
If Sonic was real, he'd be banned off 4chan
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>>531153305I like the idea that he takes on all of the SOA-Sonic personality traits, since that's sort of what happened in Underground. Underground Sonic himself is a pretty boring standard hero, but I like the idea.
Silver got leaked for Lego Sonic with "77118 Silver’s Car vs Knuckles’ Monster Truck". Just thought I'd let all the Blazefags here know.
if you really want to make an authentic sonic story, take a story you like. Preferably a popular fictional story. Then replace the characters with the nearest possible Sonic characters.
Make changes when necessary. Prioritize Sonic being an unchanging hero who inspires everyone. Now you have a Sonic story.
>>531154561>kucklesClose enough.
>>531154561It's so funny how Blazefags scream and cry about how Silver is awful and nobody cares about him when he's still getting shit-ton of merchandise while Blaze rarely ever get scraps
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>>531154561OFFICIAL CHARACTER TIER LIST ACCORDING TO LEGO
>Sonic, Eggman>Tails, Amy, Knuckles, Cubot>Shadow, Rouge>Metal Sonic, Biolizard, Photo of Maria>SilverPOWER GAP
>Worthless slop not good enough for a minifig (Blaze)
This game has been far more difficult than SA1, I've been getting my ass kicked and I can never get a rating above D, but at least I'm having fun
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>>531154561>he didn't see the sol dimension set with blaze's transformer boatstupid shitverfag
>WE GAAN
Tails words before flying the tornado
Give me a random female character to use for a project
What's with this gay Vietnamese guy posting gay sonic pic?? Do you find your women to be that ugly you jack off to blue cartoon rat?
>>531154692Sonic Evangelion - with some changes
Sonic - Shinji
Sage (or Blaze) - Rei
Rouge - Misato
Eggman - Gendo
Shadow - Fuyutsuki
Tails - Kenseke
Knuckles - Toji
Tikal - Hikari
Amy - Asuka (though im sure some here would enjoy a Surge Stand in for the sake of angry abusive sexual tension drama)
OC - Kaji
OC - Ritsuko (Unless we swapped Rouge with Sally, then i'd make Fiona Ritsuko, and Geoffrey Kaji)
Infinite - Kaworu
>>531155967I am an American guy and Sonic is hotter than our women and he's also hotter than the women in every other country I've been in
>>531155646>fake dimension set with doesn't exist boatBlazekek...
>>531156183Nice larp but the Americans are asleep now there's only us Laotian and Vietnamese
>>531155859Nevermind then I find her very ugly
>>531156113But what about the fan favorite beloved character Mari?
>>531156318I’m not asleep, I just saw BLACKPINK. The show was nice.
>>531156401Nicky realized who he used to be
>>531156387we are sticking with original series with some modifications to story and relationships like eggman sonic relationship being adoptive or something...
but if we went rebuild route and Amy can be Mari and Surge Asuka
>>531154692Superman 2025
Superman becomes Sonic
Green Lantern becomes Knuckles
Hawkgirl becomes Shadow
Mr Terrific becomes Tails
Pretty straightforward.
>>531156113IF Rouge is Misato Shadow is Kaji. Satisfying both Shadouge and Shadamy, or opening the floor to Shadurge which actually is quite funny to think about
>>531156113Sally and Rouge both work great as Misato. Misato is more like Sally but Rouge is actually canon. Hard pick.
>>531156808oh and make Starline Fuyutsuki
>>531156808Youre a smartypants
>>531156183>>531156447>american guy>watches Korean gay danceYou're not a man not even American
Do not mega Man fans like Ian? What did he do right there but not on Sonic?
>>531157151I wasn’t even that guy, but that’s a weird thing to say regardless.
>>531157223Megaman fans don't even know who the fuck is Ian.
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>>531157223Mega Man fans were the first Ian haters and caught onto his bullshit like using song lyrics.
>>531157496Megaman has lyrics to steal?
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Why is it that when Pokèmon adds complicated lore everyone loves it?
>>531157613Yes but those aren't the ones he took. He inserted lyrics from the band The Megas.
I am now reminded when Flynn stole from TeamFourStar
>>531157814People say Lanolin is the new Sally and that's just a reminder that Ian successfully buried how flirty Sally is.
>>531157696Pokemon fans are shiteaters that will lap up every turd GameFreak shits on their plate and will gladly ask for seconds. There's no point even asking a question like this.
>>531157696Pokemon has never actually released a videogame that is downright awful.
Yes, there are bad pokemon games, but they're usually good enough that millions of people will buy them without any concern at all. Pokemon as a concept is ingrained in the culture of the real world. Sonic doesn't have this at all. Sonic has released games that normal people consider absolutely terrible.
>>531157696I didn’t like that they added that Mega evolution is painful for the Pokémon. Makes me not want to use it.
>>531157696Because Pokemon since the very beginning had complex lore, especially when you take in the anime as a factor. The same can't be said for the Sonic franchise until Sonic Adventure.
>>531151898I remember looking up skateboarding fighting techniques while drawing that lol. It was supposed to be her version of Amy’s hammer.
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>>531158186>Sonic has released games that normal people consider absolutely terrible.Hot take: Those games aren't really bad at all, but were made to seem bad by people that never liked Sonic nor his Modern reincarnation. A good example is Sonic Unleashed
>>531158380I would take it a step further and say those people wouldn't have liked most platformers and the Jak series is carried by aesthetic alone.
>>531139410Sonic’s not a faggot he’s had plenty of girlfriends across different dimensions, timelines, and continuities, He's even married at some point.
you can try fagdow and sissyver instead
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>>531102325uuu... cute...
Would a Pokèmon world equivalent to Sonic be successful?
Would people bother making all their OCs based on Pokèmon they like?
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>>531158960underboobs are evil
>>531158960Yes because it has Pokemon in the name. The furry autists already have Mystery Dungeon for OCslop though.
>>531156113>The Tails TimelineTails - Shinji
Amy - Misato
Eggman - Gendo
Fuyutsuki - Shadow
Cosmo - Rei
Cream or Honey - Asuka (Yes. I mean an angry bipolar bitchy killing machine Cream with smiles and serious looks on her face. Vanilla is dead..)
Sonic - Kaji
Silver Blaze Marine Knuckles Tikal - modified stand ins for Kenseke, Hikari, Toji Sister and Toji , Silvaze remains, again knuckles could have Tikal
Rouge - Ritsuko
Kaworu - Kit
>Rebuild TimelineMari -
*checks notes*
..Sticks??..
>psycho badass badger falls from the sky, lands on top of Tails, sniffs him sexually and says some weird ass shit about the world government and fighting aliens sounds right.
or we could do Tangle
>>531159274I would say Mari is Mina because it's a """"canon"""" paring nobody fucking asked for that came out of fucking nowhere in the future that everyone wishes didn't happen
>>531159147I got warned for underboobs once, why are jannies gay.
>>531159193I'm literally not talking about our world
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>>531159349Sticks works in so many ways and gives a reason to be happy at the end
>>531159704Amyfags will never beat the besties allegations.
>>531159147Stop being gay
>>530940054Here's the full whiteboard. Thank you to everyone who showed up!
Full-res image is in the booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=19429
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>>531159963>knuckles belmontnice
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Drawing of a pedophile
>>531159963It's Nicole's anniversary?
>>531160184This month is the 20th anniversary of Stargazing, the story that her lynx form debuts in.
>>531159963Cute Nicoles
Adorable Trip
Based Blaze
RIP Vector VA
>>531159963Very cute pic of Trip!
trip!
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>>531157696>>531158226Pokémon lore is intriguing nonsense that Game Freak drip feeds. It gets frustrating after a while because there is never any payoff, unless you saw the leaks
>The same can't be said for the Sonic franchise until Sonic Adventure.Sonic always tried to have Adventure-like stories in Japan, they were just more limited in how they could tell them before
>>531158186>Pokemon as a concept is ingrained in the culture of the real worldThis is correct and it should have been your main point. The rest of your post is wrong and unrelated to it
>Sonic doesn't have this at allI wish it did. I've come to realize the sense of community Pokémon creates is one of the best things about the series, even if you don't care about the series anymore it gives people something to bond over
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>>531159963well done, everyone
Trip!
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why am I attracted to eggman
>>531159963I hate how good Minafag has gotten
>>531161175You might be Sonic
Sonic is uncool and faggot.
>>531156113>Sonic - ShinjiSonic is insecure with daddy issues? shinji fits
more as Tails.
Kaji - Sonic
Misato - Sally
Gendo - Shadow
*Kisses Fang with big wet kiss before bed*
>>531159963>it's the year 3000
>>531162890He quite literally can't draw anything else.
ESL anon is uncool and a faggot
>>531163939Sonic the Manboy
>>531164072Weird. I also had underwater sex with Sally
>>531162967No it's not...
>>531164072Chris did that with Sonic too before he pulled him out of his pool
>>531164516https://files.catbox.moe/xl8t6w.png
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>>531164658This looks like Alota art but he doesnt draw porn. Whats the deal?
>>531164650I like Herms' art but his faces look too human like
>>531164914>He wasn't blown to death with the final color blaster
>>531164658spilling alota seed to this jerboa
>>531164939agreed the snout is too flat
>>531164914mmmmmmm. takoyaki
>>531164973I doubt he'll stay dead. Instead of making new villains to spice things up, they'll probably just have Eggman rebuild him and Starline.
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>>531164973>>531165428Just give him a bastard son.
>>531165428>Eggman rebuild him and StarlineEggman wanted both of them dead and neither of them provide anything he doesn't already have or need. If zombie Starline happens it'll probably be from a contingency plan Starline had.
>>531165428IDW will die before they bring him back
boooooooooooooooo...ri.......nnghhhhh
>>531157696Pokémon doesn't have a main cast, the status quo is constantly changing because the characters are constantly changing, the world is constantly being developed, the series embraces change, if a character does reappear outside of their debut game it's treated as an exception to the rule and they almost definitely will not have the same role they used to have.
Sega is allergic to the idea of the status quo being upset by anything other than a new character being introduced with the intention of them staying, the only exception to this is Shadow, who stuck around despite being planned to die in SA2 because he was too popular to not bring back, other than that, everything must stay the exact same all the time, it's ironically very stagnant for a series that supposedly champions free movement.
Why is he so fucking fat omg this dude is obese
>>531155786Claire The Howler Monkey
>>531165948It just occurred to me that Red is fully grown man in the current pokemon continuity and may very well have a wife and kids at this point while Sonic is the wind or something.
>>531165603How old is Mimic again?
>>531164939It's the face shape. He draws them with a human face shape instead of a rounded face.
Chroniclesfag why is Chris a teenager
https://files.catbox.moe/9yqp7u.png
Chroniclesfag can you give me an anal prolapse
>>531165428>stay dead he fell into a river you won't even need to explain how he survived next time he shows up, same with starline
>>531166985>Weakness:noneWhat do you expect radioactive rocks from the planet mobius
>>531167183The Joke makes more sense when you realize Sonic himself has a weakness: Can't swim. They all lack that tiny bit of balance with post-feminism Amy being the worst.
i have an oc named sally acorn, she sucks so many cocks
>>531167364Amy is one of the slowest characters in the series and does not and has never had super strength
>>531166635Is this ai or what? Whos drawing/making these?
>>531166095Red genuinely comes across as a turbo autist to me.
>mute 20-year-old last we saw him>spent 3 years of his life as a mountain hermit, when he was a teenager>the only public places he's been seen in since gen 2 are battle facilities>is only seen in public when Blue is tard wrangling himI don't think he's interested in love at all.
My OC Mina! She loves to get after-show blowjobs!
>>531167935Red is the wind?
>>531168017girls cant get blowjobs
they can give them
My werewolf girl OC force cuddling tails.
>>531167935You almost completely described knuckles wtf
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>>531156113I never knew I'd get to post this.
>>531167864Not him it's literal revenge porn.
>>531168079>>531168080Well you see, when a girl's clit gets really hard...
I made a mistake ok shut up!
>>531156113Also, Mighty could be Toji too. Doesn't really fit the personality, but he does have a (archie i know) sister.
>>531167797>Amy is slow and doesn't have Super StrengthIDW would argue otherwise. Someone could make a big collage of all the times this has happened.
>>531168245It's a fictional character.
>>531168441I love that they thee in Amy being stronger than Silver and nobody at Sonic Team batted an eye.
Sonic Team will make Ian eat dirt if he does the wrong thing with Shadow. And they have pretty thick guidelines on Sonic. But Silver? They don't care at all. Sonic can't go on dates anymore but I bet IDW could make Silver kiss a man.
>>531168490She's so cute when she's angry!
>>531168441A. She would need Silver's help if she had Super Strength
B. IDW
>>531168043A nomad wouldn't stay in one place for 3 years.
>>531168139Knuckles stays on Angel Island because he feels it's his responsibility to guard it, Red stayed on Mount Silver because he just wanted to train and the next best place to train had caved in from Mewtwo freaking the fuck out.
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>>531168771Yeah, IDW does wank Amy quite a bit. I think Evan has toned down this shit a bit during the extreme gear arc tho.
>>531164486>Zeena has the same VA as Maria.Does Shadow tell her to "Use the voice" in bed?
>>531168662>Implying fictional characters can't be subjects of revenge porn
>>531169075It's a fictional character.
>>531166410I haven't watched X in ages, but didn't he get aged up when the writers tried rehabilitating his character?
>>531166985>via air shoes
FYI, it isn't her hammer being magic or anything like that. Amy just has almost Knuckles tier strength.
>>531169202archie isnt canon amyfag
>>531169250That's IDW. You can tell from Tangle being there.
Amy is super strong because she and Knuckles have switched roles. There's a reason that zesty Echidna was so gay with Sonic in Frontiers.
>>531169096So? Sonic is also fictional. What is the point you're making?
An AI flag made porn out of fictional character to make drawfags mad and stir up drama. How does fictional character being a fictional character make it any less petty?
>>531169158https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcyyPCDP8oE
Yes
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>>531169340who cares
it's HOT
>>531169340Touch grass loser, that oc is a fictional character.
Lastly, there was Amy one-shotting a giant whale.
>>531169250Ah hah ha ah ha ha ha! So pissy it doesn't even know what its complaining about.
>>531169250You know for a fact that there isn't an amyfag on this planet who would call archie canon
>>531169614>n-no you're madImagine simping for a fictional character.
>>531169340Piracy is a service problem. If they didn't want their OC stolen and used for porn maybe they should've provided porn themselves?
I have more of a problem with Sonic, Shadow, Blaze, Omega and Silver not handling everything with utter ease, Sonic alone should be more than enough given he could oneshot Heavy Egg Hammers in Heroes, he'd have to try for once, but he'd still be fine once the kid gloves come off, even when the Shadow Androids start flooding in.
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>>531169678>Begging for pics of fictional characters so can train AI to prompt potn out of itYou could've done the same with your own OC.
>I want to suck your dick if you know what I mean
>what
>I want you to fuck my face if you know what I mean
>what
>I want to have oral sex with you if you know what I mean
what
all sonic characters have super strength even sonic himself it's just some characters have a bit more of it.
>>531169815Whoops wrong post
>>531169661Anyways
>She's fictional "That's we can all agree on, right?
>>531169971>mobians are canonically stretchy now
>>531169971A robot shouldn't squash and stretch
No matter how tough they try to make Amy, the male characters will always get more attention for doing cool things. Sorry, Sonic's demographic doesn't care for girlbosses.
>>531166341I think a brother or sister would be better, but if they were to go with a bastard, they could make them the same age as Cream's age and be her nemesis/rival.
>>531170141This might sound autistic but Amy's character design undermines the idea that she has super strength and super speed. She was clearly designed to look like a normie in sa1 and ever since we literally never see her perform "super" feats in actual cutscenes. Just gameplay and IDW. And unlike every other "main" character she isn't dressed practically (Rouge) or eccentrically (Blaze). She just doesn't look like a combatant.
>>531169678Jess has no appeal outside of being designed for cock teasing. We need more porn of her, that's all she's good at.
>>531169971I thought that everyone understood this already, especially since everyone understands most Sonic characters having varying degrees of super speed just fine.
>>531170141Well, no demographic cares for girlbosses. In Amy's case, it isn't even about her being a bossy nag at times (cause she did that bit in Sonic X), its her being de-feminized. Same problem with a lot of western media.
I fear just how bad the movie version of Amy is going to be. Cause you just know its gonna be bad.
>>531170294>Cream's ageYeah sure
>Cream's rivalNah Whisper crying and going uuuuuuu over a six year old sounds hilarious and needs to happen
>>531169857Is Shadow seriously so socially inept that he doesn't understand sexual cues?
>>531168441I find so pathetic all of these attempts to give Amy something when it's already estabilished her heart is her contribution.
It sounds silly but it was behind every contribution she made during the Adventure era and the heroes would be either worse off without her or dead.
I don't see why people have so many problems in having the girl character not being a girlboss who's just like the boys honest. It's like female empowerment means having the same powers men have because women have no powers. Fucking backwards.
>>531170519He will figure it out. someday...
>>531170536Sonic is the heart
>>531170294Mimic fathered a kid at 18 and they would be 14. But if it was in his 20s like 22 they would be 10 and gets younger as you up his 20s.
>>531169748Please understand IDW is "soft" nerfed because these writers don't want to write these super powered characters as anything beyond small building.
>>531170519If Shadow understood sexual cues he would have fucked Rouge a long time ago
Mimic's kid should be like Abby and Tangle should be the Joel.
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Shadow gets girlbossed.
>>531170464Then have them become Cream's friend and Whisper be paranoid as hell over it
>>531171197Imagine Whisper being a schizo over the presence of a child.
>>531171106>NOOOO MARIA PLEASE GET ME OUT OF HERE!!!!! THEY'RE GONNA- >SQUELTCH SQUELTCHSQUELTCHSQUELTCHSQUELTCHSQUELTCHSQUELTCHSQUELTCH
>>531170297Her modern design has one overlooked detail.
>Sonic has white lines running across his folded red boots and a gold buckle on them>Amy has white lines running along her unfolded red boots but her gold is on her wrists>>531170536>her heart is her contribution. It sounds silly but it was behind every contribution she made during the Adventure era and the heroes would be either worse off without her or dead.It sounds silly because it is, Amy in SA2 hinders far more than she helps, she's the only reason SA2's Last Episode happens, Eggman detecting the fake emerald wouldn't have mattered if he couldn't hold Amy hostage, Sonic would've just put the fake with the others and Tails' plan would've thwarted Gerald's there and then.
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What was a sick, dying girl doing with so much cake?
>>531171821I find it hard to believe that NOBODY on the Ark gaped her.
>>531171197>>531171285uuuuuu Tangle Cream's preschool has allowed a bigoted incel chud octopus child to enrol and he is subverting their beliefs with hetetocentric socionormative narratives and indoctrinating them uuuuuu Cream said I was crazy we need to burn her and the rest of those sanist children with their school it's the only way our society will be safe again from these future opressors.
>>531171984Maria WAS gaped...
>>531169340Can you give me the full story breakdown then?
>>531171821The Robotnik fat genes gotta go somewhere
>>531171651Shadow's getting jumped either way.
sonknuxbro do you have any good non ship art of the two? I love seeing them together
you guys should have sex with each other, like plap plap plap til your satisfied. seems like it'll calm the most of you down and maybe we'll start having normal threads again.
>>531173213sure, I'll post a couple...
I should have sex with Sally Acorn
Eggman and Maria having super strength means either there are other humans out there that also have enhanced abilities, or it means the Robotniks are the Sonic equivalent to the fucking Hanmas.
>>531174639>top surgery scars
>>531174658>or it means the Robotniks are the Sonic equivalent to the fucking Hanmas.Archie's overlanders are established as mutated humans with super strength and super intelligence
Gerald's death in movie 3 was so cruel and gruesome. His own grandson was eager to send him to his fucking death and Knuckles and Tails did it too with smiles on their faces. Getting burned and vaporized to death and callously treating it like a happy fun joke. Seeing an actual death like that be treated as an unapologetic happy thing is offputting.
>but he was shot to death in the game
Getting shot and dying is a pretty normal common way to die. Getting vaporized isn't.
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I hate shipping. Hate it. But yaoi Sonic is somehow more in-character than he is in every straight pairing.
>>531174769He laughed in triumph believing he had ejected his own grandson into space for trying to stop him from killing everyone, quipped about it too.
>Grandchildren. All the fun and none of the responsibility.Fuck him.
>>531174769in the movies it's pretty fucking clear killing motherfuckers is the fun, Sonic straight up sent robotnik to a death world where he would have been consumed by the plant life there or starved to death if he hadn't happened upon Knuckles and in in the 2nd movie he gleefully tried to kill Robotnik as Super Sonic, they didn't even explain how he survived the fall in movie 3 just that he kinda gave up and quit after losing his death egg robot and in the spin off Knuckles and Wade doomed the hunters to eternal looping and killed the collector with no fucks given, Wade fucking cheers when Knuckles drops that bowling ball on the guy. the movies do not give a flying fuck about morality the only reason Sonic didn't kill Shadow is because Shadow pulled a "You made the same choice I did, you aren't better than me!" moral high ground on him.
>>531175429I'm not saying he wasn't evil or didn't deserve it but the cold disregard for loss of life doesn't feel right. At least not for Tails and Knuckles. Its the same shit as when Starline died.
>>531175409Yaoi ships/their artists try to actual use Sonic's real dynamic with Knuckles or Shadow where he annoys or bothers them somehow so it "feels" more in character than when Sonamy/its fanart has Sonic openly embracing and reciprocating Amy, since he doesnt do that
In-character Sonamy is not something Sonamy fans seem to be interested in
>>531175616Why are you being such a fucking nerd? Starline's death didnt need some fucking sad respect and sendoff.
You know, in the games it didn't seem like Shadow liked gerald at all compared to Maria, he barely talks to him in shadow gens, he only saves gerald because maria begged him to, the little manga has all of his motivation on Maria, he always harps on Maria and in the end he looks lovingly at maria as he flies off to confront black doom.
>>531165948Blaze and Knuckles were clearly treated as one shot characters as well that proved too popular to get rid of
Is Super man like the wind?
>>531175757Gerald fucked with his head. When he first sees him in Shadow Gens he flinches.
The fucked up way of dying doesn't help either. A living person being reduced to dust in an instant.
>>531175729I never said that buddy. But it's strange how cold Sonic was about it considering he's done less harm than Eggman ever did.
>>531175687reminds me of that short story where at the end Sonic directs Shadow's vision towards the arc, then having shadow follow his finger from there to himself making shadow flustered and mad, it wasn't so much as a gay moment but Sonic giving Shadow a moment and then teasing him after it, which is perfectly in character for him and if you wanted could be interperated as gay, thing is you can do that with straight ships but it only works with characters who would get flustered or mad at Sonic's ribbing but only Blaze fills that quota on the straight side because she's the only female who has the same personality quirks as most of his rivals such as Knuckles and Shadow, Surge definitely doesn't she legit hates the fucker
>>531175924If Zavok died Sonic would say the exact same thing. In fact the only reason he wouldnt say it for Eggman himself is because they have fun with each other. The problem with big oof isn't Sonic's nonchalance about the death, its that he didnt comfort Belle
The Avatar in Sonic Forces should have been human only.
>>531175870He does? Geez, Maria really is the only one Shadow feels a sense of comfort and safety around, nobody else will never be as close to him as she was. That's tragic or not really as Shadow is strong, he doesn't need nor want anybody to come as close to him as Maria was
>>531176041I have similar feelings which is why I feel that Sonadow is often hand in hand with JP purism when depicted by certain artists, that all being said the Blaze thing isn't accurate because he doesn't toy with her the same way. Blaze is friendlier than Knux and Shad after Rush. So much so this is why Sonazefags try to post here and say "look they have a real liking for each other!"
Would Vector join the Kremlings?
>>531175797No. Deadpool and Plastic man would be
>>531175687In-character Sonamy isn't getting any better than it is right now, they're meant to be the hedgehog dilemma in action, this ship isn't meant to sail, it's capable of leaving the port, but it never will, because it's not supposed to.
>>531176064I'd have less of a problem with it if he said something less memey. Are the other Zeti even still alive?
>>531146214I will give the movie this. It portrayed Maria as a gremlin-y little shit, and I deeply appreciate that.
>>531176064He didn't need to, Belle didn't feel that bad about Starline's death either, she was having a much harder time solitifying that the man who created her, her father, Tinker no longer exists and won't ever be coming back, Dr. Eggman's persona back then was only the result of his injuries from his latest attempt at being the world's molder, it's not something he wants to be, it's him at all and Belle accepted that, the fact that they wrote her off entirely makes me wonder if they'll eventually do the same with Whisper, her character arc has also ended and her reason for fighting is gone just like Belle, she no longer needs to be in the fight.Tangle honestly doesn't need to either nor does Jewel, it's not like Sonic and friends who are either targeted by Eggman directly or actively go stop him, these are civilians who got dragged into this, none of the OCs are, even Surge and Kit shouldn't be here anymore, Starline is dead, Clutch is gonna be robotized or die, their hatred for Sonic and Eggman has come secondary to their desires for affection and adoration, they no longer have the excuse of being forced to do things, anything they do good or bad is entirely their own decision and will.
>>531176484Dont talk here if you dont know the lore
>>531175308you're welcome, I love them
>>531176676Sorry that I forgot that they appeared in the dubiously canon crying lesbian fanfiction faglord
>>531176580Same, her being a little shit is much more understanding than being a purity sue but it also makes sense because the movie is legit the first time we've seen her through the eyes of a 3rd person rather than shadow's memories of her as we always have, the movie, the manga and the animation showed us that Maria was a spunky little shit despite her body's limitations while Shadow's prospective showed us her non gremlin side, it'd of been interesting to see her through Abe's eyes to justify his burning jealousy and hatred of Shadow in his youth and his regrets in his current, the way he spoke in the animation really made it seem like he truly regrets how he treated Shadow back then, but that's probably the last we'll see of him, for all we know with eggman's line of showing GUN their place in the tails tube he might have killed them all off including the commander offscreen.
I think the humans disappeared from the world because despite them being here sega doesn't really know now to deplict them and sonic people living together or they fear Eggman looks far more dangerous if he's actively harming humans with his antics
>>531176591>she was having a much harder time solitifying that the man who created her, her father, Tinker no longer exists and won't ever be coming backBelle was waffling about this for like 3 arcs straight. It shouldnt have taken that long but at least it got resolved
>the fact that they wrote her off entirely makes me wonder if they'll eventually do the same with Whisper, her character arc has also ended and her reason for fighting is gone just like Belle, she no longer needs to be in the fightThats how the series is supposed to be remember? Sonic solves your problem and even if you remain part of the cast, you arent eating up story presence because we moved onto the new thing. Idw never wanted to accept this.
>Tangle honestly doesn't need to either nor does JewelTangle is different. She was designed to be almost like Sonic if he was a noob, and now that shes not much of a noob anymore shes just another less powerful Sonic. I dont mind her but again, shouldnt be a focus. Jewel is supposed to be her sidekick, itd be nice if they remembered that
>even Surge and Kit shouldn't be here anymoreI kinda disagree. They at first glance seem like they shouldve been like Shadow, doing a big story and then either dying or becoming perma rivals, but i guess "fake hero" is their status quo so they get to remain like any character.
>>531176776Shadow was designed for Penderskino. I wouldve loved to see a universe where Penders joined in 2001
>>531176776The best part of this is that Hope's uncanny resemblance to Maria was a total coincidence. She first appeared in a storyline like a year earlier, and SA2 hadn't even finished development yet when she was introduced. But the happenstance was so perfect, the creative team just rolled with it.
>>531177131Even when SA2 was finished they literally didn't know Maria was blonde, meaning Hope LOOKING like Maria and being related to her AND living in space all happened by coincidence
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>>531177318Ive never seen a goddamn purple grape in my life. Grapes are green and red
>>531177047Where the hell was Jewel ever deplicted as Tangle's side kick? Tails is Sonic's because he's Sonic's tech guy and can fight if he has to where as Jewel is a helpless powerless civilian with no combat ability at all and she can't help tangle in anyway especially now that the resistance is effectively reduced to small militia groups across the planet with no headquarters anymore.
>>531176776this image answers a lot of questions i've been having
>>531177415>Where the hell was Jewel ever deplicted as Tangle's side kick?>she can't help tangle in anywayJewel's entire existence is that in hypothetical (gameplay) scenarios, shes a flying target for Tangle to latch her tail onto and swing. The comic could've used this. They didnt.
>>531177410Where in the world are you?
Grapes around here come almost exclusively in purple or green.
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>>531177047>Belle was waffling about this for like 3 arcs straight. It shouldnt have taken that long but at least it got resolvedAt least until Eggman uncaringly rips open the wound by deciding he does want a daughter after all.
>>531176960>I think the humans disappeared from the world because despite them being here sega doesn't really know now to deplict them and sonic people living together I mean, I don't really see why it would be so complicated. Just show them as regular citizens alongside the mobians.
>or they fear Eggman looks far more dangerous if he's actively harming humans with his anticsHe blew up the moon, and later the planet itself. Sega's attempts to whitewash Eggman's actions are pathetic, and they need to stop. Just admit the guy's a monster already.
>>531175687Het ships oddly have the habit of sucking the wind out of Sonic even though Sonic is canonically heterosexual
>>531177202Oh my god, yes. Brunette Maria is so fucking cursed, I love it. Look at her!
But yeah, the line up there was such absurd serendipity. They kinda HAD to go with that angle. It's right there.
>>531177860Oddly enough, I think SonElise fags (rare as they are) are the ones who come closest.
>>531178031Penders unironically channeled Maekawa, just briefly.
>>531177879Would you spend US $2.25 on this?
>>531178085Funny how perhaps the most hated ship in gaming history is one of the few that doesn't involve completely warping who Sonic is.
No shade to sonamyfags. The ones who like in-character Sonic are a minority.
Sad that this has never been topped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlbmfnfxGL0
>>531178248No but I remember when it came out
>>531172385Long story short, AI dag bragged that he's going to gen AI porn out of OC because "fuck drawfags"
>>530461851
>>531178203If we can be totally honest, Penders wasn't a bad writer at first. The problem is that he got into a position where nobody could tell him no.
Personally I'm a fan of Sonouge.
>>531179115Maybe you had a point afterall
>>531155575Amy's shonen training is serving her well.
>>531138851The overuse likely made them hate it on principal, I find that once the novelty of something you used to like wears off because of the excessive overuse, you start to find things to hate about it. And yeah, this
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>>531160184>>531160253Nice. Happy anniversary, Nicole.
... God I miss her so much.
>>531138462I like it when the unfunny memes blow up in the faces of the twitterfags who made them. Jehtt was never good
>>531154986The hard truth to swallow for Blazefags is that if she wasn't associated with 06, she likely would've been put on the same bus as Marine. As a Blazefag, I didn't comprehend just how little Sega gave a shit about Blaze after a certain point despite being way more expanded on than Silver or even a support type character like Cream.
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Rouge is freedompilled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA37HS0k2J8
>>531180457so does this general routinely act like frontieres and shadow generations are fake
>>531180457This gave me autism as a kid
>>531180307This is known. It's why she's the best.
>>531180554>Ianslop>SA2/Shad05 rehashlol
Why don't you guys just make a fan game with lots of money and sincerity
>>531180847>/sthg/ makes a game>it's unplayable fetish slop>"This is Ian's fault!"
>>531180940>/sthg/ makes a gamelol
>>531180624I don't ship Sonouge, but because they are both meant to foil Knuckles, you can see them as reflections of each other. Rouge does whatever she wants just like Sonic. They are both ultimately on the side of good.
Now imagine if IDW had a redeemrouge
>>531180847There is an anon here making a fan game, I will be playing it when its done.
>>531180847I will and everyone will like it and think I'm cool and want to be friends with me
Why are male hedgehogs so into human women? What can explain this phenomenon?
>>531180268I feel like Blaze being expanded upon is the reason why she is borderline vaulted nowadays. All that time and money was put into her and it just flopped, there's a precendent set that Blaze won't work so there's no reason to continue.
>Shadria all over the fucking whiteboard
jesus guys
>>531178085>>531178317I think Sonelise works because Sonic is treate more as Elise's muse for everything she lacks, has been denied since her father died and she was forced to really accelerate on taking the throne, or can't allow herself to have because of Iblis:
>The liberty to act and express as one pleases without expectation, judgment, or consequence>The freedom to go anywhere, meet anyone, and spend however much time with them as one likes>The lack of pressure (as a duchess-to-be or the one thing preventing the apocalypse) to enjoy the small things in life, like rolling about in the grass and jogging to leave your troubles behind>The easygoing-yet-focused confidence to face adversity with a smile, and concentrate entirely on what's in front of you without doubting yourself or dwelling on prior mishaps overmuchSonElise is about a guy who enjoys life with such zest that it's infectious, his presence helping a girl repressing herself to start coming out of her shell rather than remain stagnant simply because it's safer - it's probably why they went with the whole "Sonic & Elise bond, Sonic dies, Elise revives him with a kiss" plotline, it's symbolic of the fact Sonic helped Elise actually start LIVING and her returning the favor.
I genuinely think the ending of Sonic's Story where Elise teasingly echoes back his advice about running first and worrying later amidst the collapsing Egg Carrier (contrast when they first met, when she panicked at Eggman shooting missiles at them), them almost not making it, then getting blasted to safety by the ship exploding and tumbling around in the dirt, Sonic casually helping her up and her cracking up and laughing over ridiculously lucky they got is one of the best scenes involving Elise in the game. If there was any potential for her character, it lied there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xqQB9UwkVg
>>531181458ShadriaGOD corner
>>531180847>Why don't you guys just make a fan gameWith money and sincerity it's more worthy if we make a derivative franchise, so the author can self-sustain.
>>531181392I think you summed it up well anon, she got everything needed to start her own spin off if possible but it wasn't enough. Of course, the shitty friends debacle didn't help either.
>>531181109Is it weird that I've always thought Sally would play similar to Mega Man Zero? Nicole is the Cyber Fairies.
>>531180847if we take money for a fangame the 14 year olds of Sonic Twitter will cancel us for not being comunist and then link to their kofi page to help pay for hrt
>>531181487Man, I wish sonelise had more cute art as shadria.
>>531181558>Cute hug>Cute marriage>The screams of a madman
>>531181787No, you're right
>>531181392>>531181754I blame Rush Adventure for sinking Blaze personally. Its gameplay structure was a serious step down from Rush 1.
>>531182008It's weird that it took so long for Sally to get a proper weapon. She's like, the normiest normie on the team.
>>531181803Sometimes i wonder why don't we do like japan, we add a single faggot in a dress while the rest of the cast is ultra-straight, make him do some bullshit for fanservice alongside the straight girls and then focus on what's important. At least the gay bait shields you enough.
>>531180847>>531181059>There is an anon here making a fan game, I will be playing it when its done.Same.
>>531182043>>531181754>>531181392Blaze isn't being pushed because her creator got promoted out of Sonic Team following the '06/ Naka debacle.
>>531182428Ok but couldn't they have given her something else? Antoine was already the blade guy.
>>531175687I disagree somewhat, some Sonadow artists usually make Sonic into Amy or Shadow into Knuckles. I think Sonukles is the closest.
>>531175687>Sonamy is not something Sonamy fans seem to be interested inTrue. Ironically enough, I think Nicky and Amy are close to what they're looking for since Nicky/Sonic like Amy normally. I remember Kohane making some pretty in-character Sonamy art though, like when she compared Sonally and Sonamy in a comic iirc.
>>531182474>Shenmue is canonFirst line tells you this is fake. Trolling used to require effort.
>>531182679This rpganons project. he has been posting vids occasionally.
>>531182474>https://anonpaste.com/share/sonic-chronicles-fangame-clips-f8245dfd24>https://files.catbox.moe/votj9q.mp4That's a rather topical thing to appear when I start effortposting about Elise.
>>531182679Stick around a bit longer.
>>531182679Nobody is spending all the time doing this shit just to troll.
>>531182474>Shenmue is canonAlways makes me kek. The rest are all reasonable choices and then there's that atom bomb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PrdKVRrz04&ab_channel=JeremyKlinger
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>>531182474>>531182805>You can have an entire party just made of RougesBased Everythingfag
>>531183272>Was hard stuck on a work problem Friday>Spend the weekend chilling and playing LSD dream emulator + its clones (apparently there's a SRB sonic one I just learned about)>Come in and insta solve the issue todayMondays aren't so bad.
>>531175687how would you say this applies to yuri
>>531182679did anon read that post and mistake anon's detective work on a fangame for a fake leak
>>531183671Why is she white
Small anthro males with a tall human girlfriend is my fetish, it requires a really high iq to understand it though so most midwits get filtered. Luckily for me, I'm a genius, which is why I spend all my time here instead of being productive to society. There's really no motivation to participate unless human women are given their own hedgehog boy.
>>531183890He's probably just sticking to the show as seen in your example. Rouge in general has been white washed, but her center model seems to be based on the SA2 one.
>>531183926>jack off to big female/small male stuff>come back to sthg>anon is talking exactly about my favorite self-insert
>>531183890>Sonic is never born>Rouge becomes Lanolin This implies that Sonic is a major part of Rouge's personal development
>>531184539Who are you talking about?
>>531184623Sonic is a major part of everyones development. He bends the rest of the cast to his will with how crazy OP he is.
>>531183890Sun can't get through the pollution of New Yolk.
>>531183890One of the very few times turning a character white disgust me, that is supposed to be tanned kino.
>>531185270That's very sad. I'm sad.
>>531185074Whisper developed into a lesbian after meeting Sonic.
>>531184623>>531185074But Rouge only met Sonic during SA2 and she's been at things for a while. Did she only get the idea to be a thief Flying In The Freedom from hearing about the embodiment of freedom, maybe after GUN pressed her into service?
It's Sonic Rumble all around the world!*
>>531185603>But Rouge only met Sonic during SA2There is actually enough vagueness here for a Spagonia sized retcon
If Sonic wasn't around, Rouge would've been paid to fight Eggman in his place, because no one else was.
>>531186561SonEgg gay kisses and huggsies
>>531166635oh you actually did it? well done
I thought you gave up because it took longer than I expected. not sure how long these things take to make though
>>531183890She's not white, she's Honduran.
But yes, I also hate that Sega keeps making her skin pale. Literal whitewashing.
>>531184623No, it implies that despite her selfishness, when push comes to shove, she's the type to step up and take charge to fight the good fight.
>>531185965Although yeah, there is that. Taking down the man usually involves looting his vaults after all.
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>>531186808Thanks, it took me over a day. but work keeps me busy all the time.
>>531185358Literally based on J-Lo.
>>531187158Why is she white
>>531187256Now you know what to do, let's go to trash...
>>531187475Because Sega is racist.
>>531186561Taiwan Coolfox
>>531186339Beating/roundhouse kicking the crap out of Tails's bullies please.
Rouge's super form would be Ruby Rouge.
more like booby rouge lmao gottem
>>531188273this bat needs bread
>>531187778No one says this
>no kissu
Geeze... what are you, a faggot?
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>>531140249Ah, I never really noticed this before, but a purer yellow looks poor when the secondary color is white. Just look at poor Zooey here. Yellow blends in with white, so she needs a third color (her clothing) to give her body and shape more definition. As opposed to Tails, whose hues are color-balanced much better that you can tell much more easily where his color lines are. His close-to-amber tone is a surprisingly tricky color in the Sonic cast. I wonder if brown was chosen in early western material because it was just simpler for them to contrast with white.
>>531188447her nipplies are out, why would you post this
>>531189115Why is it okay for males to show off their nipples but not girls?
>>531189115Why is it okay for males to show off their nipples but not girls?
>>531188273I miss you rougens fag can I ask for more Thicc Rouge?
>>531189393>>531189413I think I broke something...
>>531188429she needs to get bread at least 3 times per day
Stop this, minafag wouldn't want this!!!
>>531189393>>531189413>brainwashes 4chan into double postingI must fix nicole, the mina nude pics are overloading her
>>531187006Pussy ass nigga
Mina's very own fappening.
I'm about to get DoorDash IHOP. They any good?
>>531189413I'm of the opinion that men shouldn't show their nipples actually. I think some of you niggas need to wear a bra and I'm not just talking about the doublewide ones
>>531186808Collecting the art other people put time and effort to make so that he can tell his computer software to copy it must have been really exhausting.
>>531189928I'll try to show more restraint...
>>531190428BASED!
>>531190494It's too hot this summer, there's no reason to wear a shirt. Though I make sure to put one on if I go outside.
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>>531190539Is that why there hasn't been another anon besides me and AI bro training high quality models? Grab a keyboard.
>>531175814See Fiona? You ate out all the time and got FAT.
>>531189428you got it boss
Squeezing Tails to make orange juice.
>>531137675 (OP)THIS is Anti-Amy
>>531190494But why, however?
Is it a matter of equivalence, in the sense that if female nipples are explicit then so should be the male ones, or is it something else?
>>531191774>Dear Amy:>Drop dead or something>PLEASE.>All you ever do is follow>Sonic around like the>stupid bitch you are.>Just get it through your>thick skull! HE DOESN'T>LOVE YOU AND NEVER WILL.>JUST SHUT UP ALREADY.>Anti-Amy Rose
>>531186561draw nicole drawing jess poorly (she is an AI)
>>531192184Dayum. I think those are the bedroomiest eyes I've ever seen Amy give.
>>531190494>I'm of the opinion that men shouldn't show their nipples actuallyI agree, but i don't know if it's better for me to cover myself or for women to be topless and fuck it all.
>>531190834Fuck it man, Fagtron-GPT waited until I made my delivery to train his model on my art alongside others.
Some people like to freeride and take clout from the effort of other people, I'd rather not do that, but can I say? I guess every shithole attracts parasites.
>>531190834Everyone else grabbed a pencil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnVboYhEe5Q
>>531191015Normal rouge gets boring quick, do her Alt skin
Being topless ain't all that fun, they flop around like a pair of balls. Covering them up isn't just a decency thing, but it gets them less in the way.
Of course, they also have a secondary function (milk). Tertiary if they're big enough for sexual deeds..
>>531191810>Is it a matter of equivalenceSomewhat yes. Because I genuinely think they're both inherently sexual no matter other guys try to frame it otherwise. Maybe I'm just incapable of seeing the supposed difference, but to me everyone has tits. They're both in the same position of the chest and capable of being squishy mounds of flesh complete with an areola and nipple in the center. What makes a woman's more obscene? The fact that it has function? Function completely outside of the realm of sex? Without a baby, women and men boobs function exactly the same and only serve as eye candy.
>Men don't have tits, it's muscleFor one, men do in fact have breast tissue but besides that point, the muscle still expands that part of the chest to the point where it protrudes out of some you guy's shirts in a very noticeable way. Like some of you are bigger than some of the girls I see walking down the street and because you don't wear a bra, I have to see your hard nipples poking through the shirt too.
When I go to the beach and see some of the guys run past me, though things are flopping up and down just as much as the women's do and yet for some reason it's okay to people. Maybe I'm just autistic because I can not understand the difference, I think both are fundamentally a bit obscene once they grow past the flat stage.
And this is why Sonic having a protruding chest that chinese fans love is disturbing to me or something
>>531192184>Sonic if he didn't have oblivious protagonist syndrome.
>>531156612>Mr Terrific becomes TailsCharacter-wise, there is no commonality between Mr. Terrific and Tails.
They're both "smart", but they are vastly different characters with pretty much no common ground at all.
Give up anon, last time artists threw a fit was when photography was invented like a hundred years ago or more, and many artists lost their portrait jobs.
They moved on after their luddite period and started to use photography to help their own art improve like drawing a lion without actually going at the zoo, maybe AI could be a huge tool to help artists manage the workflow and load of huge project so we finally get something indie animated that is not multimillion corporate slop movies (and also in 2D).
Oh to be a male blobian, free to run around without pants…
I want to finger Sonic's bussy
>>531193207Can't quite nail down the exact outfit, is this close enough?
>>531193759Boobs... Balls... Same difference!
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>>531167797>Amy is one of the slowest characters in the seriesAmy has been a Speed-type since Sonic Heroes and regularly chases after Sonic.
"Chases after Sonic" can't be her core character trait if she's not fast enough to actually do that on a regular basis.
>>531194016Amy was elevated with abilities her role doesn’t require. All she needs to do is simply be where Sonic is, making her faster was unnecessary.
>>531190834>Wouldn't know this was AI if anon hadn't told meIt's so over for me
>>531193697So companies make a software that scrapes all of the work on the internet (despites suing individuals for millions when they do the same) and has the explicit goal of laying off 95% of all workforce and concentrate all of the fucking profits on 3 or 4 tech companies, but artists that make 20-40k per year and are responsible for all of the creative force behind these franchises every manbaby and autist obsesses about are the entitled, crybabies and bad guys here.
Yeah dude, that's right, fuck the artists.
>>531194437The real problem is widespread capitalism.
>>531193624"No thanks, I can't drink coffee late at night, it keeps me up."
>>531194437I share your frustrations
>>531194437this and the attitude of it being easier to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission means the tech companies will do whatever the fuck they want and only stop when they tread on the toes of another giant like disney
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>>531194016Technically Sonic Adventure 2 if you count the battle mode.
And with Sonic Superstars canonically taking place before... I guess Amy was just retconned as being rusty in Sonic Adventure 1.
>>531194016I think
>>531167797 has a point though. While she IS a speed character, if put directly against other speedsters, she's usually in the slower bracket even if she's still capable of all the same acrobatics (like both Adventure games - particularly SA2).
>>531194348False.
In order for Amy to fulfill her role as a core character in the series, Sonic's "love interest", within the core group, and be a playable character like everyone else, she must be capable of doing what Sonic does.
In order for Amy to be Sonic's love interest as a core character, she must be able to keep up with Sonic. Key example is Princess Elise in Sonic '06, she is just a regular human despite having half a god inside of her. In order for the plot to center around "SonElise" while still being a typical Sonic adventure, Elise HAS to be in a constant cycle of being kidnapped and rescued because that is the only conceivable way for Sonic and Elise to have regular interactions every other level. Otherwise, Elise would just be stuck in her castle and there'd need to be some contrived reason for Sonic to always go back there just to have a brief interaction with her, which clashes with Sonic's own character and lifestyle.
The core of the SonAmy dynamic is that Amy always chases after Sonic while Sonic chases adventure. It's not enough for Amy to be where Sonic is before he gets there. Because when he runs off at light speed, Amy has to be capable of catching up again. If Amy is just a completely normal person with no physical capability to speak of, then she will be permanently left in the dust and never ever see Sonic again, and she will not be a "core character" in the series at all. And any appearance she would have could only be little more than a repeat damsel in distress exactly like Elise was with no potential to ever grow past that, ever. Which itself would undermine the entire point of her character arc in Sonic Adventure.
>>531194437In a better timeline AI could have been used to help artists directly. Instead tech bros had to turn it into some culture war "us vs them" bullshit like everything else. Worst timeline.
>>531165948Sonic keeps the characters, but other than that the series does the same with the world of the series, it is always a different world from one game to the other, the main difference is that Pokémon makes each world a "region" which makes it easier to justify all of them coexisting
>planned to die in SA2Shadow was never planned to die in SA2, Shadow was always planned to be an immortal character who doesn't die. Play SA2
these characters shouldn’t even have character arcs in the first place if I’m being honest, and it they really must they should’ve been wrapped up in a singular game
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>>531194858Amy wasn't created with gameplay in mind like the other characters. Originally she was just a mundane girl with an interest in magic. In Sonic Adventure Amy is clearly shown to be slower than the other character and she needs a car to compete in Sonic R while others race on foot. Her chasing Sonic was just a cartoony visual gag because guess what, Sonic characters are cartoony animals
>>531195356They should have character arcs because SONIC is supposed to be a force of change for everyone while he himself remains the same. That doesn't work if EVERYONE remains static mascots.
>>531194016Amy has become slower now that it’s no longer her core character traits. Her speed comes from her passion to chase Sonic.
>>531195538>Her chasing Sonic was just a cartoony visual gagAmy actually being seen physically chasing Sonic only really happened in Sonic Heroes onwards. Before, Amy "chasing" Sonic was not shown.
>>531195538>was just a cartoony visual gag because guess what, Sonic characters are cartoony animalsIf a character does a cartoony visual gag that showcases super abilities of any kind, then those super abilities are part of their character, period, BECAUSE these are cartoony animals.
>>531195690this is very 2000's
>everyone forgets that the lore reason Amy is wildly inconsistent isbecause she needs to keep up with her intense training regimen that she can barely survive in order to stand a sliver of a hope of matching Sonic
>>531194437>dude but what about software made by corporationsSo you basically completely avoided my argument because corporations are le bad and somehow smaller artists can't use what is basically free open source software in many cases?
>>531195751Stop taking the gag seriously weirdo. Sonamy was originally a meme ship
>>531195908It was better than this one.
>>531191603Squeezing Tails (lightly) because he deserves hugs
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>>531195980Gags SHOULD be taken seriously, if its part of the characters.
>>531195980>Sonamy was originally a meme shipNo, Amy is a legitimate love interest for Sonic who exists to show that this is what 'Sonic's Girlfriend' would look like, and herself is largely designed to be what her creators' idea of an ideal girl would be like.
And regardless of any of that, Amy Rose is officially both super fast and super strong, and has been for YEARS now. Any claim that she's weak or slow is not only outdated, but a flat-out LIE.
>>531194437Training AI models is considered fair use under copyright law. Every single time in history a major new technology has been introduced people always say "muh jobs" but what ends up happening is that new jobs are created in place of the old ones. This has been happening since the industrial revolution.
>>531165948This is mostly an issue of Sega have no god damn clue what they want Sonic to be. They want it to be like Mario with fun and colorful mascots, but also want characters to have storylines and arcs. You can't do both. Either the characters are static mascots to sell toys, or they aren't. Sega tries to have their cake and eat it too.
Amy = Girl Sonic
Sonic = Boy Amy
>>531193597I get your points, and you may choose to not believe me, but when guys frame male nipples as non-sexual, they're not simply saying they're not sexual for no reason, it's just that they straight-up do not read as sexual for the vast majority. And this has less to do with society itself and more to do with the fact that men and women display attractiveness in different ways, a female nipple is not just a hard nub, it sits on a mound of fat and flesh that specifically evolved to attract male (and female too, surprisingly often) attraction. Not only that, the sinuous nature of a woman's body emphasizes those deposits which makes their role as features meant for attraction very obvious.
On the other hand, a muscular male chest plays a different role than just being a focal point for attraction, it serves a wider function in broadening the male figure, it doesn't specifically draw attraction to itself but plays a larger role in a whole, in that way a male nipple is brought to a much lower level of detail in the hierarchy of eye-candy to the point where most people can safely ignore it. Hell, I barely notice men have nipples, but I do notice a well-developed male chest.
Now, do I agree that both play a role in sexual attraction? Yeah, I'm with you on that. However there are key differences in how men and women are attractive which makes the female breast a bit more obscene, this is because women are generally really good at looking good. Do I fully agree with the standards? Not really. I don't think women should be walking with their tits out but people are oversensitive about nipples.
>>531196045A monitor (strongly) squeezing your ankle because you're a homopedophile rapist
>>531196237>what is Sonic X>what is the episodic cycle where status quo is uphended then restored at the end of each episode
>>531196183Amy was less than half of Sonic's age in CD lol she was just an annoying kid wanting the attention of her senpai Sonikku. And Sonikku didn't give two shits about her. That's the joke
>And regardless of any of that, Amy Rose is officially both super fast and super strong, and has been for YEARS now. Any claim that she's weak or slow is not only outdated, but a flat-out LIE.Shitty retcon that doesn't reflect what the character was supposed to be, I guess you like Sonic being a lame quipster too huh? Cope
>>531196237I think they were closest to striking a balance during the 2000s: there were episodic adventures like Unleashed, Advance, and the Storybook games, and there were sequential games like Riders, Rush, and Heroes>Shadow.
>>531196392Sonic X isn't how the games are written.
>>531196217I don't understand why they keep cryong like faggots, if we want to talk about copyright infringement even sonic is a derivative work of mickey mouse and the rest of western style. A software like a person learning art need references to train and guess how do people get their reference, they look at art made by others and usually even trace it to learn better.
>>531196387You’re projecting
SEGA can't please older fans.
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>>531196596>Amy was less than half of Sonic's age in CD lol she was just an annoying kid wanting the attention of her senpai Sonikku.Amy was intended to be a high school cheerleader, the whole situation with her age is a complicated mess.
>>531196596>And Sonikku didn't give two shits about her. That's the jokeThis also isn't true. Amy was not created to be a joke.
>>531196596Actually, she was described as a high school cheerleader in the JP manual, being at most 3 years younger than Sonic. He just sees her as being like little kid to him, and retard gaijin mistranslated it as her being literally 8
Another day another complaining about [Amy - Silver - The wind - Ian]
>>531196803sega doesn't take sonic seriously like how the fandom does
>>531196817>the Muslim Sonicfag is defending womenSonic fandom is so weird
>>531195587>>531193896Nice can you have human groping her boobs and ass?
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>>531196989She's a woman so passionate about Amy, that drawing pic-related caused a ton of Amy haters to hate on her.
>>531193597widespread gyno from xenoestrogens in the water isn't indicatyive of normality
>>531194437No sympathy for either party. Artists need to get their heads out of their asses. Companies hire consulting companies that give them bad advice and MBA bros who only think short-term.
>>531196779Not her but the problem is you scraped someone else's hand drawings, pressed a few buttons and blogposred about it just to piss people off.
>"But what about..."You. Did a bad thing. And you're not even sorry.
fat franchise https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzxprvWveDE
>>531197497Kek, fuck it i'll admit, this is good just for the fact that it would hit the franchise on it's knees.
>>531198308anon, he knows that lol
he does this for attention
this topic never fails to be utterly depressing
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>>531198580And he got mine.
What's that thing where you don't argue with your opponent and instead convey a message to the audience disguised as an argument? I have a feeling they also do that.
>>531195183there was quite a lot of excitement about the technology early on
if someone back in 2018 had just said "hey we are looking for artwork for our experimental AI" then they probably would have had many thousands of submissions, new art drawn specifically for it, and in addition to permissively licensed or public domain art you could have had a massive, open source, high quality dataset made with permission that didn't infringe on anyone, and likely get much better results than scraping low quality shit anyway
that goodwill is long gone and nobody wants anything to do with AI anymore, so even if you did ask it's too late, you couldn't even pay most of these people to license it due to the infringement you already caused them
>>531196883Her being 8 comes from the Japanese manual of her debut game, no translations involved.
>>531196817>meaning she was as old as SonicNo, that's not what that means. It says she's a cheerleader at a high school. It doesn't say she attends high school, and it doesn't say she's high school age. It just says that she was doing something in a high school location. Everything else is made up extrapolation made to fit this person's headcanon that goes against her profile and even her later profiles where she's still a child despite being made significantly older. It's misinformation. Sonic sees her as a child because she is a child, like her profile says. It's not a misinterpretation, it's a forced headcanon based on a random footnote. At this point I think Amy "fans" don't actually like Amy at all, almost every time I see someone talk about how much they "love" Amy they want to change fundamental aspects of the character or celebrate when she's completely OOC
>>531193661Smart
Rich
Unlucky
Depressed
Mentally disabled brother
unless you mean movie version in which case I never saw it
>>531198621Hit the gym and run, anon, the gut area is the first to come and last to go.
>>531199072I don't think they let 8 year olds be cheerleaders at high school, retard-kun
Just give me AI filters for every site for fucks sake.
>>531199324Amy was 8 but still in highschool in Shogakukan, where she first appeared.
>>531199324They also can't drive planes, build machines. Or drive cars, go shopping alone, and live on their own, in the case of Amy. This is not meant to be realistic. Amy is a child, she's always been a child, her profile always said she's a child
>>531199441>but still in highschool in ShogakukanProve it.
Nicky was 10 in the manga. Sonic was Nicky's 16 year old future self. Amy being 8 scales to Nicky being 10.
>>531198308>calculators are bad because tehy're faster in doing what you're supposed to do>if you use them you're unironically evilThen stop posting your art online. Homo.
>>531196779A person learning art actively chooses what to use as reference, personally I am worried about the potential implications of a company putting everything they can find into AI.
>>531199764>apples and orangesInteresting.
>>531199072>Her being 8 comes from the Japanese manual of her debut game, no translations involved.She said it was a misinterpretation from the Jap side. Why are you getting so heated lol
>>531199051The problem is that somewhere around 2021 fuckers went all in on trying to extract the maximum amount of profit possible while fucking over everyone else.
If companies were willing to work with artists, licencing training models, helping in a two way street, AI could have indeed been a tool for artists.
What happens is that they copied everything from everyone and are selling subscriptions for brainlets to pollute the internet with masses of low effort content.
If everyone on the internet shared this monkey tier mentality, the internet would be fucking over already.
>>531199764Not my art and not the point. You could've made your own OC and your own style. Instead you had to "own the liberals".
>"OCs vio
>>531199583>Amy being 8 scales to Nicky being 10.This is another headcanon. The manga is just a different concept/world that uses the same character in a different context. Ohshima doesn't even consider Sonic and Nicky to be the same character. Nicky is basically the Chris of the manga
>>531199942And I corrected the misinformation she's spreading. There was no misinterpretation from the Japanese side, Amy was always a child. The person I responded to also claimed "retard gaijin mistranslated", which is even more misinformation that I corrected
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>>531196217>Every single time in history a major new technology has been introduced people always say "muh jobs" but what ends up happening is that new jobs are created in place of the old ones. This has been happening since the industrial revolution.And yet! Inequality has gone tits up. Hm.
I don't think sloppa will save us anytime soon.
>>531199985We've been doing this a lot longer than 2021, AI is just the newest method. The ultra wealthy are psychopaths. I have no idea what they plan to do when most of the population is forced out of work and the rest can't afford to do anything except live paycheck to paycheck
>>531199912>A person learning art actively chooses what to use as referenceAnd in doing so after a million iterations they end up stealing someone else's style or blend it with others and create new ones, it's an evolutiony process, AIs are heavily based off that.
>>531199929They're both fruit, next you're gonna tell me learning any craft is not just using your monkey brain built for mimicry.
>>531199503>>531200238She's a teenager.
No 8 year old goes to high school, you're just coping and sneeding for no reason
Someone please gen Knuckles mating pressing Rouge on top of Master Emerald.
>>531200462Sorry I'm busy genning what I want. Maybe learn to prompt
>>531200098There is owning the liberals, there is just technology and those who oppose it, somehow leftoids ended up more reactionary than rightoids on AI, but that is not my concern.
>your own styleStolen by copying someone else's one.
>>531200613>"Learn to draw.">"Learn to prompt"Drawfags, promptfags, both of you are whiny bithces.
>>531200628*There is no owning the liberals
>>531200243I mean maybe I am severely autistic and that makes me schizophrenic, but I have been seeing people spend 100s of thousands on college debt for tech jobs that will simple be sent overseas to some guy in Bangladesh earning 1k per year.
I am yet to understand what actual benefits this AI shit will bring besides concentrating wealth even more pornographically on the hands of your average Bezos, seems like a very shit deal to be honest.
I'm free like the wind and I do what I want
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>>531200439except for all the other 8 to 10 year olds in the manga, who all did go to highschool
>>531200431Template reply. I didn't say anything about stealing. It isn't stealing in either of those cases. I wouldn't want to look at Sonic fanart from someone whose work was based on photographs of crime scenes, for example. Of course this wouldn't happen because a real person wouldn't do that to begin with, but an AI that scrapes every single image it can find online will. These companies have no regard for what images they're using, and how they're using them.
>>531200846>besides concentrating wealth even more pornographically on the hands of your average BezosInsofar as generative AI, that's it.
>>531200991Silver sure knows how to dry up a lady.
>>531201036I thought you said that the manga wasn't canon, retard-kun
The next game should start with sonic and amy getting married, it’s the only way to save modern sonic
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>"Who is your secret crush?"
Which question should I ask the AI Sonic girls next?
>>531200439She's a fictional character. Being 8 doesn't stop from doing such things because she doesn't exist in the real world where those rules apply
>>531201130I'm not the only anon correcting your misinformed headcanon. The manga not being canon is also irrelevant to what he just said
Idk why i even bother coming here anymore when I can't have qn honest discussion about anything here.
>>531201040>I wouldn't want to look at Sonic fanart from someone whose work was based on photographs of crime scenes, for exampleAre you telling me you avoid depictions of violence, porn and anything related in sonic media just because the artists used as reference porn and violent images?
What the fuck are you even complaining about at this point, people reference reality to make cartoons.
>>531200243>And yet! Inequality has gone chest up. Hm.I'm not going to get in a big philosophical debate here but inequality is not an inherently bad thing, competition for resources is a fundamental part of nature and it motivates us to be productive and create value in the world
>>531200243Inequality is a non-issue and always has been, the Rich get Richer and the Poor also get richer just not as quickly.
>>531200243>Inequality has gone tits up.inequality existed for millions of years and it's part of natural diversification, something needed for a society to work properly.
>>531201582You know that there's a difference between the concept of violence and referencing specific phographs of a specific person being harmed. The people running these AIs aren't reviewing what goes into it. A person isn't a machine, so there will be decision making involved.
>>531202104What do you even need to review in a machine that takes everything it can as input and "reviews" it according to the human input? Do you even know how an AI works? It asjust itself according to the demand, it's why chat-gpt doesn't help you in building a bomb, it has companion system to correct the AI according to moral guidelines.
But regardless, are you telling me real people don't reference porn to draw porn or violence to simulate violence?
>>531202575No, that isn't what I said.
>a machine that takes everything it can as inputIt doesn't actually, that's a separate process, it's the massive scraping of websites that should be reviewed. Technically this isn't even a problem with AI itself, and more so with how these companies are implementing AI.
>and "reviews" it according to the human input>It asjust itself according to the demandIt doesn't, the AI was trained using everything they could find, whatever you're making was in small part made using everything they could find.
>it has companion system to correct the AI according to moral guidelines.Irrelevant.
>>531202964So what are you even angry about?
>the AI was trained using everything they could find, whatever you're making was in small part made using everything they could find.Like any artist they find whatever they can to help satisfy the query, if you ask loli/shota stuff said person can produce it even without CP, since it can blend two realities together like porn and young looking people.
An AI does the same.
>>531203661>Like any artist they find whatever they can to help satisfy the queryThis isn't true, that's the point and what I said since the first post. A real artist doesn't just use anything, usually they have some kind of idea of where to stop. The companies behind these AIs never even thought about any of this for a second, they just wrote a program that feeds everything into the AI regardless of what it is.
>>531199985That's. noble suggestion but ignores what is actually needed to train an AI. Training an AI means requires a REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE of all content that exists. What you propose is unlikely to lead to a representative sample. Think of it this way: if you have a set of 1,000 numbers and want to find the average, you do not pick the first 100 or the last 100, you need to pick them randomly. Another thing is scale: training AI requires a huge dataset that is unlikely to be achieved just by asking lots of people for training material. So, noble suggestion but fails pragmatically.
>>531204057>A real artist doesn't just use anything, usually they have some kind of idea of where to stopIf you want to bait me into thinking artists are moralistic people then you failed spectacularly. Expecially with sonic artists and the fact artists in general use a shitton of reference to learn and use from without disgust, historically they used to tear bodies apart for a scientific study and now it's not any different. Have a nice day.
>>531204535I don't want to convince you of anything, I simply explained my perspective. I am also open to have my mind changed with good arguments, I would even prefer that since I'll have to live in a world where this is inescapable, you didn't need to be so combative. Bye!
>>531204986Let's move to the next thread, you're absolutely right that big companies are pieces of shit, but the thing is so is everyone else, it's why i don't believe in copyright people and big companies will just abuse it and technically a copy is not a property steal. Nintendo has no right to tell modders what they can do.
>>531205541I don't know about "everyone else", but I otherwise agree with what you just said.
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