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>>531147887
Second for why are they so intent on making Abyss awful?
Wait does the packs from the park chests change soon or do you get to pick which set or something? I haven't even gotten my 100 Legend rise packs yet!
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why she so piggy? oink oink
>>531169331It's always the most recent set. You bricked, anon, reroll your account.
>>531169331you only get infinity beyond cards+packs when it comes out on 17th, cant get legends rise anymore when that happens
>>531169331Pack will change to latest expansion
Leggo & gold? No idea
who are the best streamers to watch for each craft?
>>531169326I wonder if they even play tested the game.
>>531169442>streamersjust kys already
>>531169389Arisa is leaking...
What does Face Dragon need to make it a tier 1 deck?
Dragons only want one thing and it's disgusting
>>5311695321pp 1/2 Goblin
>>531169532Crest that removes enemy wards or deals damage to face whenever enemy plays a ward
Death to all those who insult KMR
>>531169532"taunt is cheat"
3pp amulet
passive effect: enemy followers don't have ward
>Last thread was constructive about how to play certain decks and certain matchups
Do you think it'll ever happen again?
>>5311696533pp amulet
When this amulet is in play, all enemy wards disappear, the leader who played this amulet cannot attack enemy followers
>>531169454Starting to love this skeleton, his mocking laughter empowers me to keep being an abysskek out of spite
All Haven women are super virgins
>>531169707Depends on if portalniggers are around
Burnites raping me and not letting me pull out until discard becomes a viable deck
can you get a high rank without looking at meta decks and tier list and making your own?
>>531169769>the skeleton is taxed at a flat rate of 1-2pp per skeletonDon't forget to pay your skeleton tax, abysskek.
>>531169838I never look at meta decks and made it to aa1 sapphire. You can do it bro! Besides, there's not a lot of cards so honestly decks are really easy to make.
>>531169532odin
forte into odin is 14-15 damage with no interaction that other than 2 wards or die
>>531169838Card pool is so small all decks are the same.
today reveal
>kamonohashi (TBA)
https://x.com/turuokakamo
>denfami (TBA)
https://news.denfaminicogamer.jp/
>yoshimoto (starting in 30 mins)
https://www.youtube.com/live/oGjfi8aA3z4
>>531169838>without looking at meta decks and tier list and making your ownNo since there is not enough cards. If you click auto fill for any class you will 70% get a suboptimal version of any netdeck. You're a fucking idiot.
>>531170102Denfami already revealed theirs
https://news.denfaminicogamer.jp/kikakuthetower/250714s
The 6pp Portal Spell
>>531170221What does it do? Summon Loyd and Victoria?
Abyssbros... I am actually excited for set 2. I want to BREEEEEW and see what kind of bullshit decks I can come up with. Dooming isn't healthy.
>>531169326Because their Omens will be broken, trust the plan.
>>531170102I expect a 4pp bat gold when I wake up.
>>531170259Yeah just that.
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>>531170221ah true, my bad
>>531170346Sex with dolls.
>>531169331Freebies will be Set 2 but you can always keep buying Legends packs with rupies or gems.
>>531170162>You're a fucking idiot.gww I'm so angwy
i feel like these 4 drops are kinda ass for foreset, all you want to do after you drop the godwood is to start spamming combos to cycle cards
>>531170395The way the shop is set up we might be able to pick an earlier pack for the free daily.
>>531170263Same, I'm looking forwards to the bronze and silvers. Our legends are genuinely solid but need some support so the silver's are where the magic's gonna happen.
I'm slowly learning to not let the unwinnable games get to me.
I'm on a bad deck, variance happens, I'm not a knuckledragger for losing some of these games.
>>531170102>kamonohashiMaybe the 2nd Dragon legendary since he's known for Dragon
>yoshimotoProbably just some Gold since that's what they gave the other pro teams to reveal
Being above 20k RP and not diamond group must be really humiliating if you're not a haven/abyss funcrafter
>>531170583>Maybe the 2nd Dragon legendary since he's known for DragonIt's going to be Otohime and she'll be the fish archetype legendary.
>>531170647God I hope it's the sexy hag otohime.
>>531170619Face dragon players are RubyGODS.
>>531170647Wouldn't they release a male/monster since they already release the feet-shower one?
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>>531170647you can't have ralmia without her
>>531170737When I see a 20k+ RP ruby in a tournament I know it's a free win desu
>>531170647I cant wait for Marine to have three cards and no functional deck so they just wasted an entire expansion on giving dragon literally nothing instead of improving the decks they are supposed to have
I have...the Rodeo sleeves.................
>>531170619I'm 80k RP and I fluctuate between diamond and fucking topaz
>>531171028i keep getting 10 winstreaks and still drop to topaz from diamond randomly
>>531170102What legendary class are we still missing?
>>531170619>>531171028diamond is maintaining 12 wins every 20 games, its easy to drop out of it if you get a bricked loss-streak or 50/50 winrate and its easy to get into it when you get into a 10+ winstreak
>>5311711861 witch, 1 dragon, 1 nemesis
>>531171186rune
dragon
portal (karura)
>lose against face dragon 5 times in a row
>erp with them afterwards
I still won.
Turn 6 super-evo Albert put me back into Sapphire
Thank you Albert
>>531171169It's currently assumed that group promoting and demoting is only determined by your winrate during the last 20 games in your current group if that can help you understand
what is "dragoncraft" in your native language?
>>531171389I don't think the game ever got translated into languages other than Japanese, Chinese, and English.
>>531171389It's "Cuckquean" in my mother tongue
WHY AREN'T YOU THE NEXT FOREST LEADER
>>531171389Lohikäärmeammattitaito
>>531171196rune
I don't give a shit what retarded /svg/gers say, the deck is bad when 3/4th of your games are aggro sword and face dragon
>>531171389It has a double meaning
One is "Timmiecraft"
The other is "cheating son of a bitchcraft"
>>531171286Wait. Who is 2nd Abyss legend?
>>531171389dragonkraft probably
>>531171576Worse Luminous Mage.
>>531171576Better Luminous Mage.
>>531171551im AA2 dia and every game is rune portal forest ad naseum
>>531171389Seni Naga or Kraft Naga
>>531171389It's "Drachenblut", literally meaning Dragon Blood. The whole -craft thing is only in the English translation for some reason.
>>531171576Sameish Luminous Mage.
Threadly IQ check. What do you play here?
>>531171796is that a glowing card?
i WILL play it
>>531171796all the glowing cards?
they cant even coin salefa theres no punish
>>531171796Swing face, end turn.
>>531170825That's enough ramp to hit 10 early. The problem is the 10 drops aren't worth playing over Olivia or Garyu who need SEP to do anything.
https://x.com/hakuikoyori/status/1944695315954802883
They told her evening is the time slot with the weakest opponents in GP but she got roached and bricked.
>>531171576Charon
5pp 4/4
Fanfare: Reanimate 2 and 1
Followers with the departed trait have ward
Super Evolve: Gain a crest with countdown 2 and "at the start of your turn, reanimate 3"
Absolute dogshit card that's worse than Luminous Mage unless they print some truly insane 1-drops and 2-drops. As it stands, she's usually putting up a generic 2/2 2-drop and a 1/1 skeleton with ward.
If he gets a card, should it be in Abyss or Portal?
>>531171576luminous mage with a bigger main body but half the ward
>>531171796all the glowing cards because i'm not a bitch they don't have apollo
>>531171664I fucking wish
>>531171918Swordcraft just to extra cuck abysskeks.
They just need to reprint a card like Lurching Corpse and Charon will be good.
>>531171906>usually putting up ... 1/1 skeletonbwo... there's exactly 2 cards in abyss that even make skeletons atm
if you don't play mino or bonemancer before this you aren't even getting one...
>>531171982>Cropping what you playPost it faggot
>>531171796>no coinI will now proceed to hit you in the face
>>531171796you're saying to hold the quickblader back so you can albert on 5?
>>531172065True, in half the games she just gives you a single 2/2 with ward because you didn't luckshit into a skeleton by the time you play her. Grim...
>>531171796go wide before the salefa turn, no point in playing around apollo against haven
>>5311719061 drop is one of Cerb's hand.
or Fairy
>>531171906>Absolute dogshit cardcan't wait for you anons to complain about this obviously broken card
>>531172067Maybe you should read the reply chain before you reply to me faggot I literally said what I play
>>531171982>Marie in the backgroundSwordkek really tried to crop it lmao.
>>531171796all cards, the retard haven player used their +1pp already
>>531172132(so you won't be boardlocked)
>>531172170Waiting until turn 9 to play a shitty 5-drop is cope.
>>531172170yeah she’ll get crazy value the turn before the game ends
Getting a leader is 0.06%. Is that calculated per card (so 8 in a pack) or per pack?
>>531172206I use Marie background because sexo but I literally don't have a single game on sword
So far all the legends kinda support different gameplays?
Though there's no way rune's 2nd legend will support spellboost. What are the chance of portal's 2nd legend will be for Artifact?
>>531172337It's .015 per leader per card. I'm assuming that the new pack is going to be .045 since it is missing a leader and they aren't going to be nice enough to buff the rate to compensate
>>531172354What could it be if not Artifact?
>>531172354Why not, pure artifact legend is just Ralmia right now
After seeing Portal's reveal I'm convinced we're getting a gold that summons Coco and Mimi. Have hope, Abyssbros
>>531172485Nah, we'll get a shitty overcosted spell that summons 1 of Ginsetsu's foxes.
>>531172354It's that cyborg homo, isn't it? Doesn't seem like a puppet card to me.
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>>531172132Swordbro here, you can't ALWAYS play quickblader immediately after turn 1. You might need to threaten later
>>531172354its basically guaranteed to be
unless theyre putting the clearly artifact gold into the puppet free prebuilt
>>531172337Per card. If it was per pack almost no one would have leaders outside of sparking lol
Neutral gold reveales by parachan
2pp 2/2 translate weebs
>>531172583Enhance 5pp Evolve
Last Word - If it is evolved deal 4 damage to a random enemy follower
>>531172673It's neutral, retard.
>>531172583neutral
enhance 5: evolve this
last word: if this is evolved, deal 4 damage to 1 random enemy follower
can you tentacle the face if Lloyd is on the field
>>531172702>>531172738Feels like a more board control oriented sidegrade to fighter, to be desu.
>>531172779No.
>>531172583>>531172702Uh, budget, neutral edelweiss? There's no reason to play this compared to other specialised 5pp legend of each faction
>>531172779every single swordnigger tries to do this play kek
>>531172583Abyssbros, do we run this? Looks like a solid reanimate for Charon, just evolve them instead of her.
>>531172583>>531172702How does this help Charon
>>531172702>fighter powercreep >>531172835Olivia superevo procs his last word btw
>>5311728953x in every abysskek deck
Watching a rune stream, turn 6 onwards he just yells "KUON PLEASE" every card draw, and even when he top decks it, he still begs for another one next turn, is this really the struggle of runekeks?
How do I deal with Ralmia/Aloutte/Lesbian+Blaze as Puppet?
Ho-chan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGdOUee6CWA
>>531172923fighter is 4pp
>>531172927Yes, it's the deck for gamblers. You highroll, the rewards are big, you low roll, you lose
>>531172842I once emoted, tried to do the same, paused for a bit, then realized I had the 2 cost bane unit at 9pp.
>>531172978Translate it, weebs
>>531171702the german localization is pretty interesting
Waldgeister - forest spirits
Königsarmee - royal army
Magi
Drachenblut - dragonblood
Nekromanten - Necromancer
Sanguine
Klerisei - clergy
Machinae
>>531172583packfiller
epic
this better not be it for todays reveals
>>531172927Because there is literally no critical thinking when playing Rune. You either have Kuon and win or you dont have Kuon and you lose. Except half their hand is card draw so the chance of getting Kuon is way more likely than any other class getting the one card they need.
>>531172790Yes, you need atleast a kuon on curve for chip abd spellboost and then another Kuon in hand for turn 10 to combo with 0 cost climb ideally
>>531172978otohime on suicide watch
>>531172978fanfare: Halve the cost of all cards in your deck.
HOLY MOLY
>>531172978>fanfare: halve the cost of all cards in your deckHOLY SHIT
DRAGONBROS, DID YOU TRUST THE PLAN?
>>531172978DRAGONBROS WE FUCKING WINNING
>>5311729788PP 4/4 Dragon
Fanfare: All cards cost in your deck become halved.
>>531173089Wow, actual ramp dragon support
>>531171980>>531172132>>531172160>>531172231Coin means no Salefa, they're desperation drawing. You have an open face for T5.
You play QB and you save Lance + Magus for a T7 evoless 7 damage battering ram against Soulcure/Jeanne/Maeve.
You cannot build a wide board after T6 against Haven and Lance unbricks your Magus and keeps your storms for face and not clearing wards. That's worth way more than 2 extra potential damage.
See you all next thread!
>>531172978>>531173089Ramp Dragon... Sugoi... That sounds awful to fight against
>>531173089HEY, Give me a Dragon leggos that does NOTHING
>>531173089>Dragon plays 2 satan on turn 10HOLY SHEET
>>531172978IF ONLY dragon has dclimb haha
>>531173024Fanfare : Half cost all cards in deck.
Alright, now where are the dragon draw cards...
>spent multiple turns to do nothing to ramp up to 8 mana card that does nothing
Is it over?
>>531173089I PLAY 2X GENESIS DRAGON FOR 5 COST EACH, STORM, HIT FACE
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Seems we're in general approaching actually good list for sword, amelia magus should not be cut, jeno and anything that doesn't draw or do direct damage above 6 is brick. Centaur becomes 3x odin soon.
Sword is going to move into rally heavy assuming they print more of it though
>Have a ton of rupies and vials banked
>Wide set 1 collection cause Cygames stopped me from vialling everything
>next set is "only" 77 cards
Damn, I think people were right about the vial changes increasing player retention. I'm fucking set to play a whole bunch of different crafts and can switch around when I get bored.
KMR...I underestimated you
>>531173089…is this even good?
>>531173249>play the chick turn 5now what?
>>531173232You play satan and then another roost girl to halve the cost of all satan deck cards.
>>531173150you might be right on this one
ROOST DRAGON THAT DOESN'T HELP THE OPPONENT
LETS FUCKING GO
>new card is anti-Burnite support
NYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>531173089So dragon literally becomes another one pony satan deck just like rune?
The hand isn't affected so it does nothing without card draw.
>>531173249>Reduce its cost with the 6pp card to 5>Play it + a 2pp follower that does something on evolve >WinIt's pretty strong.
>>531173089>Only halves your deckTrash. You're just praying you don't draw lizards.
>>531169328why does she wear a mask?
>>531173089What the hell dragon t0 from a single card
Dragoncraft will get an amulet that lets them refresh their hand, trust
>>531173305albert evo storm face
youre fucking dead bro
Did you trust the plan, dragonbros?
>>531173289It's fucking good.
Twilight Dragon is 9pp board clear then do nothing because that you can't do shit with that 1pp left, but with it getting halved you can just throw out Genesis after the board clear and hit face.
>>531173089Does it stack? Like 8 costs can turn to 4 costs, then can turn to 2 costs?
>>531173089>decks-so how are we dragonbros supposed to draw all these discounted cards exactly? It's not like we have a Dclimb
>>531173337True, that sucks.
>>531173089Resplendent Phoenix is back.
Damn she was my dragoncraft leader lol
>>531173401you have to draw exactly twilight dragon AFTER playing that card though
>>531173089Basically, if dragon highrolls and gets to ramp smoothly, it's good
If they don't then it's too slow
>>531173434It's fanfare so yeah.
>>531173089so she really doesn't even discount your hand? terrible
I guess i am investing into dragon
Twilight for 5pp is hard counter to literal everything
>>531171389It was "Draconique" in SV1, iirc the french translation was closer to the original japanese terminology
>>531173434That's how it worked in SV1, yes.
>>531173089How does this work with Enhance? Very curious about it
>dragoncraft
>fish and chicken cards
>>531173270I'm liking this list a lot. Not a fan of just spamming Amalia and jeno hoping they run out of answers
>>531173338Satan isn't going to work unless you play her then draw Satan and her so you can put the Satan cards in your deck and the second time you use her the Satan cards will be reduced.
It's made specifically so you cant easily abuse Satan the way Rune can.
>>531173289She's win-more.
Ramped a lot and can drop her down on turn 5? Great
Getting aggro'd down or haven't drawn your ramp? 8pp for a 4/4 with no immediate impact is shit
>>531173401assuming you can both play this then draw cards
so you drop this
next turn draw cards (3pp) + cheat 5pp 10 drop
then only on the third turn youll start getting real value from it
its super slow and negative tempo
>There are unironically people who think this dragon card is bad
God damnit you guys are fucking retarded.
>>531173341Oh and I finally thought dragon would be good and got baited
>>531173468At worst you can superevo it to draw 3 more cards
>>531173507Enhance is not affected by any cost changing effects.
Looks like Olivia will still be seeing play in Dragon.
Dragon becomes the new high risk high reward deck?
>>531173501does it round up or round down in SV1?
>>531173089>not halve the cost of cards in both players' decksno balls, not my phoenix
>>531172583Expensive for this effect
Sword will be so good in take2 though
dragon can barely stabilize playing garyu on 8pp
what makes you think playing that dogshit would do anything but instantly lose you the game
>>531173043huh
I learned and improved at the game more during my 50 rune ranked wins than I did on my 50 forest, haven and abyss wins
rune is not trivial, in fact, this very thread has contradictory advice
do you always keep dclimb on your starting hand? do you do it against sword, dragon or abyss?
opinions are divided
some say you only get to spellboost 1 or 2 dclimbs per match and you need them to win
so it's always 100% keep it on your starting hand even if it means you might get rushed down by aggro
others disagree
>>531173616yes. pachinko dragon is a real dragon archetype/deck
If you cant play her by turn 5 you just die. If you dont have dragons only card draw in your hand she's trash. If you pull your expensive cards too early she's trash
>>531173631Round up. 9 becomes 5, 5 becomes 3
>>531173560>sacrifice tempo to ramp>sacrifice tempo to play this>hope to draw into useful discounted cardsreally solid gameplan, t0 soon
>Dragon will be spending all their Super Evos on Twilight drag trying to draw 5 cost discounted genesis drags or some shit
bye bye Garyu, no more Sevos for you.
>>531173089>doesn't discount handgarbage
>"I guess I'll get ready for whatever this Haven guy's next turn is- oh he had skullfane so it's lethal nevermind"
>>531173658It would be a neutral edelweiss then that everyone could use without a cost of relying on dirt stacks. The cost is fine.
>>531173551Well if you're desperate can always sevo Twilight for 3 draws. I can see Ramp Dragon running the neutral 3pp draw 2 cards at 3 in addition to their own draw card though next set.
>>531173173you know what, thanks anon. maybe i will use my brain instead of playing all the glowing cards when haven doesn't have salefa (never)
>>531173289Dragon turn 8 isn't the same than other crafts turn 8
>All the ramp cards
>All the draw cards
>The new leggo
Ok so there is a plan after all at least not t3
Card reveals for the next set so far:
Haven won
Sword won
Portal won
Forest won
Dragon lost
Abyss lost
Rune lost
>>531173232T2 coin sign (3mana)
T3 sign (5mana)
T4 Evo feng (7mana)
T5 play the new Lego
T6 coin DOUBLE SATAN
>>531173867yeah they start it at 10 hp
Instead of giving dragon an actual useful consistent card that can improve their horrible unfinished decks they got a fucking meme slotmachine
Then they wasted a gold on a single fucking marine gimmick card
>>531173867at best it's a turn 6 do nothing
>>531173718>If you pull your expensive cards too early she's trashThey will still be effective for Burnite board clear.
>Play my chicken
>Play my twilight dragon to wipe their board
>Super evo for 3 cards that are reduced
Sounds fun to me. Hope I get the new leader.
>>531173915Dragon and dirt were always the most honest decks in Shadowverse
>Sword won
>Portal won
Retard
>>531173089>8pp do nothing>After spending 3pp do nothing>And 4pp do nothing >People freaking out over itCmon guys she doesn't even discount your hand
So now dragon is like dclimb rune except without the mid game power cards to stabilise and efficient board clears. Cool.
>>531173089Too soon, now she'll never be a leader...
>>531173891Doesn't work cause you only draw once after the new legendary.
I mean, hear me out:
>ramp
>use the new mermaid t7 to survive, the one with the orcas, or other cards like calamity breath (lol)
>get to that card in t6
>drop twilight into sevo for 3 draw
I guess this works?
What we really need is MORE ramp cards, the deck is currently the fucking lottery since you have to draw signs or fei to ramp, we need at least 9 cards to ramp with a deck. I hope there's some shitty bronze/silver ramping
Real dragon bros live for the memes so we'll gladly take the chicken.
So will odd cost cards round up or down with new dragon leg?
>>531173089so you are already at 8pp when you play her. you need exactly card draws for Ho-chan to actually give you any value. otherwise you are still just playing one big threat a turn that gets removed every time
>>531174008It doesn't affect your hand? TUHRASHHH
>>531173089>super greedy late game card>still loses to dclimb What's the point?
>>531173891I raise you DOUBLE SHARK
>>531174106Double genesis dragon OTK.
>>531173986and without dclimb
you just drop satan from temu and hope you topdeck the nuts
>>531173089Dragon is almost back to being a complete meme like at sv1 launch
unleash the JO crystal
>>531174103kek
runenigger will defend this
>>531174149if you use the new card and then satan the cards of satan's deck aren't even discounted
>>531173885>Haven won>Rune lostIt can't be both because, unless Haven gets really good 1-2-3 ward followers, Ward Haven will be farmed by Rune.
Wilbert and Aether do nothing compared with storm amulets and Satan into dshift will still exist
>>531172583phildaucucks, our response?
>>531174164I'm a WBabby, what's the context of JO crystal here
>>531174164>JO crystal + astaroth OTKThe meme will happen.
If you have all three of the -2pp cards on turn 9 You could hit the board for 9 and then play turn 10 triple genesis dragon
>>531174106SharkGOD I kneel
we need
1. a gyaru skin for garyu
2. a santa skin for ruler of cocytus
3. a jeno skin for yuna
4. a yuna skin for juno
5. a juno skin for jeno
>>531174103DClimb costs 18pp you literally can NEVER play it
>2nd legendary is a meme card
Yeah I'm playing Haven in tourneys or whatever. No seriously I'll just craft the most broken ass deck
N-no you don't get it, after I've played her I will top deck twilllight dragon into more twilight + genesis dragons and win haha
>>531174296only thing we truly need are loli leaders
>>531174216Dragon had a deck where you just did this all game.
>plays Ho-chan
>next turn draws two cards
>two searing firenewt
you know it's waiting
>>>531174329This but I'm not a stuttering bitch
>>531173915Neptune is a good defensive card on its own.
You'll have 9pp going into next turn meaning you can spend 4 on draw and and still be golden. Also there are Neutral tutors.
>>531173089>reduces the cost of cardsOH COME THE FUCK ON
>>531174417>adeptkek in my /svg/
I imagine this can be quite nasty with Filene's cost up card
>>5311744171 PP 2/2 THAT PINGS FOR 1???
HOLY SHIIIIIIIIIIT DRAGON IS T0
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Lamp is shaping up into something. Ruby is absolutely 3x now, not sure it'll end with the ding dongs as well
Just topdeck all your ramp and have Hochan in your hand by turn 5 while making sure you don't get aggro'd or board flooded. It's that easy.
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What if the silvers have a card like this?
>>531174417The deck is going to feel fucking awful 95% of the time. You are relying on way too much rng for something good to happen.
>>531174459Do you know what Abysskeks would do for such power?
>>531172583>>531172895>>531172925>dogshit neutral filler>better than every abyss 2 drop except mummymany such cases
>>531174460lamp is not doing shit
and just jobbing
>>531174507>have to cope with silvers and bronzeit's over
name some bronze/silvers that carry current decks. yeah dragon sign is one but still
>>531174527>relying on way too much rngliterally playing a luck based game so I don't see the problem
>>531174457It's just going to cost 4 instead of 5
>>531173089>fanfare: Halve the cost of all cards in your decThank you for playing Shadowverse
Best case scenario is you already have a twilight dragon in your hand before you play her so you play her. Use twilight to clear the board since you gave up complete control for free and then super evolve it for draw and hope for the best.
>>531174457Filene's cost up card is never in your deck retardbro..
>>531174017>you use 1 ramp >on t5 you use new 3 damage aoe + -2 cost on a card>on t6 you play ho chan
>>531174559What's is this orthus slander
So she's literally a 8pp does nothing but IF you survive this turn you MIGHT be able to play double the pp efficiancy AFTER ANOTHER turn of stabilizing and drawing cards. Imagine if she lets you play with double the pp while refreshing your hand while costing 0 mana, basically all setup in the same turn for free without needing ramp, THAT would be crazy.
Anyone wanna play a quick match for the weekly?
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>>531174702have you tried putting Dragonsign in your deck
>be rune player
>have no early game so you need to damage control as much as possible
>but half your deck is draw so you also need to cycle to get the few cards with impact
>another quarter of your deck needs SB to do anything so topdecking is much harder
>need to conserve your evos because your survivability depends on them
>need to conserve your sevo because you have 0 dmg out of hand without it
>need to conserve your wincon but your wincon is also your only midgame board presence
>need dclimb for t10 but generally can't survive without using it early
Rune is the hardest class to play. Prove me wrong. You need all the ressources in your deck to win and if you mismanage even slightly you're fucked.
>>531174686orthus is shit and i will be replacing him with the new neutral 2/2 ward that gets +0/3 when sevo unlocks
>>531173658>>531173783My bad, I thought it was a Sword card
So it's a Neutral card? Interesting
Ramp is top decking like fucking face dragon
>>531174767>runetranny downplaying as worse DClimb just releasedlol
>>531174568Carbuncle is a silver.
>>531173667It's more like a turn6 do nothing if you get aggressive ramp
Lamping into extra lamp is absolutely what lamp needed still not t1
So since everyone here is saying ramp is going to suck that means it's going to be tier 1.
>>531174460this looks fucking terrible
>>531174568Cairn is fantastic in forest
Baby Carbuncle is good
Serene Sanctuary is Haven's only real draw option
>>531174767It's a highroll deck you either highroll your opponent with a boardvomit they can't full clear or you just try to OTK at 10 and hope for the best. There's a reason pros don't play rune as much as sword, forest and portal.
>>531174947It's almost like it's based on the cards that aren't out yet
>>531174886>turn 6 do nothing if you top deck all the ramp cards>reward for playing such card is to hope to top deck good and to keep playing 1 card at the time because they still don't cost enough and you're in top deck territory anywayYUPPIEEE!!! Dragon is saved!!!
>>531174770Orthrus is better in every use case
>He forgot about Tanaka-sans improved draw buff and doesn't expect multiple back to back games of dragon getting perfect ramp into ho--chan
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>Play Face dragon
>need to topdeck for lethal
>Play ramp dragon
>need to topdeck for board control+ stabilization since you did even more nothing than Rune's early game and also just played an 8 point do nothing except you don't have Anne and Grea for 5 and then finally topdeck lethal.
>>531173089Screenshotting everyone saying this is a good card for my retard collection
How to win with Chicken
Hope you pull for dragonsign
Hope you pull for second dragonsign
Hope you pull for Liu
Hope you didn't die while spending three turns doing nothing
Hope you pull for Chicken
Hope you did not pull any expensive cards other than Chicken
Hope you dont die as you spend your fourth turn doing nothing
Hope you pulled a twilight dragon to clear the board and super evolve for card draw
Hope you top deck all the cards you need to win
>>531175132>top deck this with no cardsYUPPIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
portal is such a disgusting fucking craft
>>531174959I remember using this card in my SV1 deathly tyrant pachinko deck, fun memories
>>531173089Phoenix roost memes?
>>531175196This is exactly what I wanted
I have to say, if you lose against ramp dragon, they really deserve that win
>>531174770Your gonna be crawling back when you get cucked by not having enough shadows for mummy+cerb
Twilight into triple forte will be a thing now
>>531175249Ok you can just say it's artifact now bro
>>531175062orthus evo is a massive bait (the effect is not worth the shadows and can backfire due to randomness), +2 shadows might as well be a rounding error (doesn't even proc with charon since it's a fanfare)
i'd rather take 2/5 that can cockblock albert or a single bayle every now and then
>>531175196No wonder the protagonist in the anime plays Dragon, you need plot armor to win with this fucking deck
>>531175309the +3 hp is also a fanfare
>>531175164Just wait for Dragon's 10pp dclimb bwo
>>531175196Believe in the heart of cards, anon!
>>531175287it's just a gambling deck but worse than rune in every aspect because rune has less low rolls and better cards
>>531175001>There's a reason pros don't play rune as much as sword, forest and portal.Because every other deck has a consistent gameplan. With rune every game is different and you need to adjust to the current situation much more strongly. You don't have an easy curve you can play out because of all the different bits and pieces that you need to manage.
Don't worry dragonbros the other legendary will be tier 0 and carry our entire craft
>>531173249Play her t6. Play olivia t7, draw into reduced cost, fuck shit up.
Guys I never finished the story of Shadowverse.
Is it actually worth it to download the old game just for that and go through it?
Bros I need the new set to come out already ugh I'm dying here I need new cards to spice up the matches and give me something new to play with
Ramp should never be allowed to be good. And that's a good thing
ALL WE NEEDED IS A FUCKING 10pp INSTANTLY FUCKING WIN THE GAME CARD AND MORE RAMPING CARDS TO MAKE THE DECK MORE STABLE AND NOT HIGHROLLING SHIT, NOT THIS MEME SHIT
OH LOOK I PLAYED THE CHICKEN, CAN NOW PLAY MY GARYU FOR 8 COST AND THE NEW CARD THAT I'VE DRAWN... NVM IT'S FUCKING 1 COST DING DONG OR A 4-5 MANA I CAN'T USE AND THAT WOULD BE BETTER PLAYED LATER TO CLEAR BOARD OR SOMETHING
>>531175470Bro... Your foot fetish card?
>>531175470The other legendary is feet.... it's nyover
>>531175470You mean the other legendary that is just a 2pp filler unit that does nothing useful?
>>531173089>literally 8pp do nothing>needs next turn to at least to be impactful and most likely get cucked with a shit draw If dragon has a decent draw engine, she'll be okay. If it would have been better if she has ward or at least draw.
>>531175514We're getting a gold 20 pp Fanfare: win the game. Trust the plan.
THIS IS MY LAST COPE
THEY'LL CHANGE THE CHICKEN
>>531175287No they don't. You newfags don't know how bullshit Ramp is when it's good. It's as cancerous as Spellboost Rune with ppcheating. I'm glad it's shit right now.
>>531175348fair enough, charon is not what you want to be playing at that point anyway, unlike a cheap 2/5 ward along with something like medusa at 9
>8 mana, refresh pp, redraw hand but you need to include 3x a&g and 3x kuon in your deck
Would dragon play this?
THIS IS MY LAST COPE
THEY'LL CHANGE THE CHICKEN
They'll reprint Aiela, Annerose, or Roy for ramp. Trust the plan.
>>531175608if she discounted the hand as well she'd be fine, maybe even good
>>531175672She'll get nerfed soon.....
>>531175672They should make her 6pp, affect both players, and draw 1-2 cards.
portal vs haven is so lopsided jesus
>>531175672She will be 1 pp and always begin in your starting hand.
How retarded would it be to craft Roaches just to have a half-assed deck to grind ladder rewards? I'm hoarding rupees for the new set, but I've climbed as far as I can with what I have.
She should have had an evolution that gives her card draw.
>>531175485it's really fucking long with multiple arcs that have their own characters and seperate stories
and i don't remember anything that stuck out as actually good storywriting
>>531175670>0 cost redraw>need to 6 good cards in your deckoh i dont know
>>531173089>8pp>doesn't effect hand>Still might be crazySugoi.
>>531175720>>531175715>>531175706JUST GIVE HER 1 DRAW
1 JUST 1
SO YOU CAN PLAY 2 CARDS NEXT TURN
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>531175425What?
Rune gameplan is super consistent
>hard mulligan for grea lol>turn1 draw >turn 2 nothing or desperate storm blast>turn 3 you better have that 3pp draw 2 or you are fucked>turn 4 panic because you are at 10 hp already but you could do nothing about it>turn 5 if you don't have grea or some cope combo of miranda and shikgami you have lost, gg, concede and play next match>if you pass turn 5 play Kuon as soon as you have 7pp>No kuon on 7pp? Concede, you lost>you played Kuon but still no Climb in sight? ConcedeRune is super consistent
>>531175731Roach is about to be complete dogshit in a few days so dont. If you want an easy grinding deck you play face dragon.
>>531173089>8pp do nothingOh well, I was planning to whale for Filene leader but I guess Dragon is still a toilet deck. Thanks you for keeping my wallet safe, KMR
>>531175731ladder rewards?
>>531175731Lose to haven soon still going to do well outside of that
>mfw when I was expecting actual support for dragon decks.
>>531175773don't worry bro you can combine your expensive draw from the deck with your amazing midgame cards like uh uuuhhhhh 3 damage boardclear?
>>531175731>grind ladderwhat kind of grinding and why? you're better playing a fast aggro deck like swordcraft or dragoncraft for faster point farming, roach matches tend to be slow and tedious. if you meant winning in tourneys roach is great
>>531173089I'm not a fan. I feel like she's either going to come out on 6 because you already double ramped and absolutely dominate a game you were already winning, or she comes out on 8 because you missed your ramp and you die on the same turn you play her.
>>531175731Just wait for the expansion and see how bad the shitshow will be.
>>531175614Ramp whenever it's good abuses neutral legendaries the most since they can cheat it early. I'm glad they're shit.
Abyssbros, we're no longer the worst craft going into the expansion!
>>531175896THEY INVENTED A NEW DECK TYPE TO GIVE IT ONE CARD
>>531175828If that's your gameplan then you'll lose 10/10 matches in higher rank.
>Timmycraft got a Timmy card
Waow!
If they add 1(one) more ramp card, would Dragon be saved?
>>531175963If you think any craft other than haven is the worst from set 1 you're deluded
Not even chicken lamp dragon wants to use feetlene what a fucking joke
>>531175963We can't stop winning!
>>531176079would be much better, but saved depends on the card other effects
currently a 5pp ramp spell would be amazing since you always end with 5pp and have to cope with a 4pp or a 3pp and 2pp
>>531176095>going into the expansionRead the post you're replying to, retardbro...
>Dragon only getting cards for ramp
>Aggro dragon will still be better somehow
Sad, really
>ONE (1) person in the svg lobby
its over
>>531176103fake shot, you took roaches out of your deck for this
>>531175101She uh...Sekka looks like a high school slut who fucks old men for money...
>>531176021Yeah go on and tell me what else can do rune on turn 3 and 4 other than playing pot of greed and get 6 face damage back
>>531176150T-this is a dragon?
What's the point without the thrill of your opponent also getting the discount?
>>531176141>>going into the expansionCould very well mean "used to be the worst deck but won't be anymore". I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and call it a misunderstanding
>>531176142>best card Dragon got is...>Odin>still enough to make face Dragon actually much better, more than ramp did with 5 cards revealedkek
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We need HIM to unbrick the early high cost cards
>>531176142Face dragon getting Odin is a bigger boost than any actual dragon card. One legendary is just a generic filler card. The other legendary is a fucking meme. The gold is for a deck type that does not exist because there are only two marine cards in the entire game and face dragon isn't going to use neptune while ramp dragon isn't going to use Otohime.
>>531175963>Abyss with hand me down cards from sword still got off better than dragon
how many hours until GP finals
>1 pp Dingdong
Such power...
The only good card dragon got this set is Odin.
>>531176184I was in there two minutes ago, why weren't you
Bros why does Dragoncraft always get the fucking meme cards
I wish she at least had a better stat line. 7/7 after super evo doesn't contest anything at 8pp. You HAVE to resolve her off of ramp to survive.
The chicken is worse than rose queen lmao
>>531173089This phoenix will be okay for a meme deck. Dragonsign once, liu feng once, then use the +1 PP from going second to cheat her out
Deck will need to be full of card cyclers though, so add stuff like ruby, adventurer’s guild and seraphic tidings.
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mysteria
ward
clash: spellboost 1
evo: draw 2 followers
restore 10 defense to your leader
gain crest
crest
cd 2
deal 10 dmg to your leader
>>531176414>wardNYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>restore 10 defense to your leaderSTOP IT
ARISA'S ALREADY DEAD
NEW DOWNPLAYING TIER LIST
Tier 0:-
Abyss
Sword
Forest
Dragon
Tier 1:-
Rune
Portal
Tier 2:-
Tier 3:
Never downplays:-
Haven
Discuss
>>531176414The haven spell is going to cause so much fucking ass pain even though it's probably total garbage
>>531176414What the fuck is that haven card
seems like a fair and balanced match up for my a0 promos
>>531176215Rune can also damage control but either way games don't end at 3 or 4.
>>531176414Wow another completely broken Spellboost card that makes getting to Satan Dclimb even easier
>>531176414>in the meanwhile, runecraftyeah I'm just playing runecraft
>>531176414so how are you supposed to kill rune now?
The more I play Haven, the more I'm convinced it's just Rune in a skin different skin
>Do nothing until T5
>Hope your hand clears the board
>Spam Storm after T10
>>531176414That statline is insane.
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>Instead of adding more ways to lamp they make this chicken so you have to add more ways to draw after you play it
Lamp...
>>531176414>Spellboost twice AND tutor two winconsTotal runenigger genocide. inb4 they start deflecting to portal again
>>531176414>>531176494rune aboutta join t0 real soon
>>531176513Abyss Sword and Face Dragon can and do end games vs Rune om turn 5
Rune autolose to these without t5 A&G
who the fuck designed orchis
>>531176414>full statted ward that can spellboost against aggroSpellboost is still in baby
>>531173089Play this, then next turn draw olivia, into draw twilight dragon, into sevo twilight.
I see the vision
>>531176414So no meta deck gets support except rune? Veeeery nice
>>531176414why does literally every rune follower have a fucking effect on evolve
>>531176414>helps with early game, runecraft's weakness>draws FOLLOWERS so that you can get anne and grea or kuons even more easily>spellboosts too because why the fuck notLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
SPELLBOOST RUNECRAFT IS LITERALLY T0 NOW
Other Dragon Lego will be Pyuton
>Halve the cost of your entire deck
>Banish all cards in your deck that cost less than 7
Thats literally OTK
>>531176414>Let's make Anne/Grea and Kuon more consistentThis can't be real.
And now face dragon cant even win against Rune since the Rune ward hard counters Otohime
>>531176718Dragon t3 unironically kek
>>531176414>most cancerous archetype from set 1 getting its one potential weakness shored upFucking petcraft piece of shit
>>531176414>3/3 for 3, has ward, spellboosts and can draw 2might be worth running over seraphic tidings to help in the early game since 3/3 statline is fairly good
>>531176414>spellboost on clashFUCK THIS NIGGERCRAFT FUCK FUCK FUCK
>>531176414Umm where's the earth rite support?
>>531176414>3pp 3/3 ward spellboost on strike searches grea/kuon if you don't have themHOLY SHIT this is beyond broken
This card is the blaze destroyer killer, now we play 3 mirandas 3 of this nigga 3 greas 3 kuons 1 satan as our only followers rest is spells
Fixes the early game, makes the deck even more consistent
RuneCHADs we fucking won
>KMR saw all the hag shitpost about haven not having enough heals
U rike?
>>531176414>3pp 3/3>ward>CLASH>EVO EFFwtf is this overstated card!?
>>531176414I'm so tired bros...
>>531176414I'm gonna be honest. Haven's card sounds anime as fuck. I don't want to think about gameplay implications though.
I HATE MYSTERIA I HATE MYSTERIA EVERY FUCKING MYSTERIAN CARD JUST UTTER BULLSHIT DAY AFTER DAY
>>531176414>play 2 of heal 10 shit>get 1 crest>worst case scenario is 10 hpLooks like I'm staying at C rank+ruby seeing everything gonna be a shitshow at higher ranks.
>>531176414Wowza thanks for making Rune even more consistent KMR fuck me and my low win rate even more
>>531176794it's literally seraphic tidings on a ward body lmao
>>531176794what do you mean "fairly good" you stupid nigger
>>531176414>can't even aggro rune anymorelol
>puppet nigggers try to clear him
>spellboost x 3
Nothing personnel kid
>>531176637Yeah, if they high roll. Same goes for portal, forest and storm haven. What the fuck are your arguments?
>>531176718please stop using otohime
face dragon is supposed to be a joke deck meant to fraud wins against low skilled opponents
So, huh
I guess I'll just craft the 2 A&G + Kuons I'm missing
lol this game is so fucking done
Thank you for spellboosting me thrice while ramming fairies into my new ward forestkeks
>>531176590you dont play Haven at all
>>531176414Rune gets this while haven gets the mediocre 3 2/4 ward w/ a dead sevo.
>>531176414Why the fuck is the mysterian student clash instead of follower strike??
Fucking japanese with their high school bias
>>531176935you're in for a rude awakening once you realize aggro is still king
>>531176815The spellboost is on clash, not strike. Clash is much stronger.
Spellboost Rune was going to get way better even if they didn't get a single card because the game was killing roach. Instead they also got the most meaningful single upgrade that fixes every single weakness at the same time.
>2pp heal 10 deal 10 to your leader
????????
>you're in for a rude awakening once you realize aggro is still king
STILL downplaying, holy shit.
WARD
CLASH EFFECT
EVOLVE EFFECT
WHAT
THE
FUCK
>>531177094Lost 0 stats for this
>>531177073The 10 damage is delayed by 2 turns. It gives you time to stabilise.
>Drops a 3/3 with ward and spellboost on clash
>Everyone cries as their board is full of 2/2 followers
>>531176602Don't forget it bricks anathema so the cardpool for ramp payoff is even worse now.
>>531176414I would play 3/3 vanilla ward in abyss but the best we get is fucking 1/2 do nothing bonemancer or the dogshit new 3 drop
rune gets
>GOOD STATS>WARD>GAMEPLAN BOOSTING CLASH>GOOD EVO EFFECT
>>531176491>>531177019The 2PP heal 10 card is gonna cuck roach turns so fucking hard LMAO
>3pp 3/3 ward spellbost 3 tutor all your greas and kuons
I don't think this semen slurping game is for me anymore bros...
>>531176414>Clash is back this fastYuck
genuinely wanting to quit the game after that runecraft reveal
the only thing that would make sense is if they also announce giga nerfs to kuon and a&g but we know the truth
I'll have you know that I am no bandwagoner.
>>531176815I think you go back to playing golem over miranda so that your follower pool is more focused
>>531176414Does he know grea is into yuri
>>531177094KMR had a less than 70% winrate against roach so they needed to push rune back to t0
>>531175902Just for dailies, feats, and guild participation. Speed isn't really my concern; I'm closest to a functional Roach deck in terms of what I already have. I've played dogshit low-rarity aggro sword to the point that I'm regularly facing decks that have no issues keeping the board clear against.
>>531177073It's an abyss card, they put wrong icon in the spoiler.
>print multiple hard counters against roach
>print 0 cards for portal and instead focus on the much weaker puppet for a more even meta
>print another strong curve follower that advances their gameplay even further than just playing spells and rune now hogs the best 3, 5 and 7 drops and can play dclimb with basically no downside now
I don't get it. I don't fucking get it. Aggro is supposed to counter rune. There's no way they get through Anne, kuon and now this shit
>>531177127Bonemancer would be a 3/3 that spits out 3 skeletons on death if she was designed to Runecraft levels of "balance".
I actually feel fucking sick seeing that fucking already good statted rune ward get spellboost for existing into 99% of aggro boards and even a way to get more A&Gs and Kuons into hand.
>>531176414yurifags, your response?
>>531177205this card is just for streamers to make meme decks with
>>531177138*gives you time to satan dclimb next turn
>>531177180>Quarter of the way to Master>Can't maintain DiamondOh nonono
>3 pp heal 4
>everyone goes insane
>2 pp heal 10
>"..."
Agrobros... Rune was our best matchup... what do we do now?
>>531176414>ward>spellboost on CLASH>draw TWO on evolveand is still a 3pp 3/3 btw, absolutely zero (0) stats tax
lol hahahahah spellboost wasnt good and cancer enough apparently
LMAO jahahahHHAHAHAHAHAH
>>5311773012pp you die in 2 turns
>>531177270It's a haven card, anon.
>>531177073Crest resolve at the start of your turn so you could heal back up without exposing yourself to lethals
It's not that hard
We just kill the game
Let's just all start playing Rune mirrors until every Tanaka san gets tired because matches always last to t10 into whoever satan->dclimbs first which is too much time wasted on a match while commuting
>>531177301Were you born this stupid, or did you have to practice? It's a lethal dodge that kills you next turn.
>>531177331Meanwhile dragon still does not have a single functional complete deck and they got two legendaries that do nothing.
>>531177338>>531177376>plays the second one for another free 10 healing since crests don't stack
>>531177363... What if you took 10 damage before your turn?
>>531171896Kek. Believing chat is her first mistake
>>531177301Yeah yeah we get it mr KMR We'll stop saying Rune has more healing than Haven now, happy?
>>531177348okay
okay
but the actual rune card is still not okay
>>531177181I doubt it, miranda is a great card whereas golem is a huge cope in spellboost. Or maybe we will, who knows
You won't always be evolving this guy anyways, the thing that makes him broken is 3/3 ward with spellboost
so the meta will be ward roach forest, ward haven and spellboost rune right? that's the tier 1 rock paper scissors.
>>531177301Read the second part
>Well you see the trade off for rune is that you need to play weaker cards to boost your stronger ones
>except that they aren't weak at all and even stronger than all sword cards when played on curve
>oh and they don't even need to be boosted to be strong
>And if you're not dead by now they also at the same time spellboost dclimb to 0 mana!
Please buy more packs.
>gave CLASH to fucking rune first
Actually kind of mad
>>531177449No? Every single lategame deck loses to Satan->DClimb
Rune is T0
>>531177267the token cuck male is common in yuri
*points razory claw at your 3/3 ward*
This is literally the only 3/3 ward on 3pp in the game. Everyone else is conditional
>>531177449The fuck is ward roach
>>531177392Anon... Sweetie, there's no overhealing.
>>531177370>rune plays their bullshitI cast Odin and attack face.
>but..Odin and attack face.
>>531177484Haven already had clash in set 1, anon.
>>531177503>deal 2 damage to self>more importantly DON'T DEAL 3 TO THEIR FACE
>>531177205At the cost of being unplayable dogshit, but she IS back and she IS cute.
>>531177527congrats you're now at 14/20 (because now there's no way you get through me)
I heal for 4, drop the 3/3 again and stormy blast odin
cmon, you have another sevo, good luck
>>531177504With upside and Evo effect and more upside if you don't deal with it immediately. For a class which destroys every class late game. Please buy more packs, thank you.
>>531176414Annebros why is Grea spending time with that guy...?
>>531177518Sweatie... your opponent can do damage to you after you play the card you know...
Cards left to be revealed:
>Neutral
1 Legendary
1 Gold
>Sword
1 Gold
>Rune
1 Legendary
>Abyss
1 Gold
>Portal
1 Legendary
>>531177514Bald man roach
It's turn 4.
I play 2pp heal 10, I play another 2pp heal 10. I end my turn.
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>turn 3 ward
>turn 4 ward
>turn 5 AnneGrea
>turn 6 AnneGrea
>Kuon Kuon kuon
>>531177527Sword has the new 6pp fag that bricks Kuon for one turn as well.
>>531177618All the bronze and silver too
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>>531176414nice 3/3
would be a shame if i
>>531176414I'm tired boss...
Rune is killing my desire to play the game because of hopeless the highrolls feel.
>>531177205wait is your phoenix daughter really named fennie in english, isn't that going to cause problems later on
>>531177494roach kills rune before turn 10
>>531177648>but they have to draw the perfect cu-Which will 100% happen thanks to the evo effect of the ward, all they need to do is to drop the Blaze Destroyers from the deck
>>531177278I'm not a netdecking fuckhead like you. I have tanoshii in this game.
>>531177680>only other craft that can cleanly answer while advancing their gameplan is the other petcraftBRAVO
>>531177527Yeah good luck getting through my wards on t3 t4 t5 t6 t7 t8 t9 bro
>>531177617Do you know the odds of drawing 2 out of 3 cards in a 40 card deck by T8?
Rune had two decks that hard countered them. Roach and face dragon.
Now rune has zero decks that hard counter them
>>531177618There won't be a second neutral legendary, anon. Only 7 neutral cards in the pool, so it's 1 legend, 2 golds, 2 silvers, and 2 bronzes. This means only 1 neutral gold is missing, and that's Grimnir.
>>531177694I didn't even know she has name, I only remember Phoenix
>>531177728No. I'd love for you to tell me.
>Another month and a half of unlimited rune and portal works
No ranked for me
>Haven does 2 PP healing loan
>Aggro player, haha I just need to rush them back to 10 and they'll die soon!
>Yeet centaur at them or something
>Haven just plays another one and the crests don't stack so the 2nd is actually heal 10 (real)
>>531177694I think she's called that in priconne. We just call her ho-chan
Damn, Portalcraft lamers somehow looking like honest angels compared to Runecraft's quintessential fraudulence.
>>531177728Not him but pretty fucking high? Haven has 1PP draw 2 for fucks sake, they just play this, tank 10 damage next turn and play another one, tank another 10 then they'll have 10 HP left
>>531177648How do you respond to this without pissing and shitting all over yourself
>>5311777601.67%
You're worried about Haven getting access to a gimmick you will see maybe 2 for every 100 games you play against them.
So far it seems like Rune, Portal, and Haven won and will be the tier 1 decks, while everyone else lost and will be dumpster tier in set 2.
>pure artifact portal gets more wards and auras
Okay, now my deck is dishonest. Still based tho.
>>531177669Bronze and Silver won't be revealed most likely, just updated into the Deck Portal at day of update.
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I'm this close to just becoming a runenigger
>>531177872>1.67%That's fucking bullshit. Post your math right now.
So let me get this straight, kage sword, the best aggro deck played by a sv pro only had a 50/50 matchup against rune. And now they release a card that patches up their biggest weakness which is their early game while every other class including sword gets more control tools? When they already hard lose to dclimb??
>>531177878the new gold doesnt give aura
just cant be destroyed
>>531177738the new ward helps vs face dragon but roach doesn't give a shit when it's already killing though wards like amalia
>>531177546Holy shit you're right, I forgot completely about Reno. I don't think I've ever seen her played in weeks now...
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>haven gets soulsquasher
Wut
>>531177648THEY ALL HAVE WARD
>THEY ALL HAVE WARDTHEY ALL HAVE WARD
>>531177890just do it
the more you play it the more people get tired of it and ask for changes and nerfs
>>531177738How is roach affected by a ward? It can deal 20 out of hand through multiple wards. If anything the roach matchup will get worse if you drop blaze destroyers and make it even easier for roach to accumulate ressources.
>>531177872>1.67%But why do Puppetfags always have it then?
>>531177709>Dropping blaze>Not drawing two with Owen then rapidly spell boosting them so you can get a massive board
>>531177864>razory claw>reaper swipe>aragavy>aragavy>medusa medusa ginsetsu
Ward Haven? More like Ward Rune lmao.
>>531177947cock and ball torture
>>531177947>2/4 wardI hate roach but I kinda feel bad for it at this point.
>>531178005After spending 5 turns doing nothing but stalling the game, you lose to astaroth OTK.
>>531177947Woah, this guy deals with 2/4th of a single kuon board sv2 is saved now
genuinenly thought spellboost cancer was already fine at t0 and they're gonna flesh out dirt but what the fuck
They need to print a neutral follower that does this
2pp 2/1 fanfare: summon a detective lens, evolve: summon a detective lens.
>>531177738Roach doesn't give a shit to that new ward, they will just throw 2 Fairies and May to get rid of it. That's literally how they deal with every deck on turn 3.
Give me your HONEST (unlike Rune) opinion on how things will go from now on.
Will Set 2 be a disaster?
>>531178129After 5 expansions dragon will still not have a functional complete deck
>>531178119you need to kill yourself
>>531178109The developers are blueniggers. They would never let their favourite deck fall below tier 0.
>>531178095Its made to get pulled out of your deck with the new haven legendary
>>531178081After spending 5 turns playing wards and not spellboosting, you die to my burn
>tfw play rune and haven
Did I give you cancer in set 1? You're not fucking ready for set 2 bucko, prepare your buttcheeks
>>531177872What. It's about 20%
>>531178209>and not spellboostingNIGGER
THE DUDE GETS SPELLBOOSTS FROM CLASHES
ANNE AND GREA SPELLBOOST FOR 3
KUON SPELLBOOSTS FOR 5
RETARD
>>531178129Bronzes and Silvers might be game changers but I imagine the meta won't shift much outside of Haven crawling up to viability.
If Rune is a top 2 gatekeeper again I'm just going to uninstall though.
So in new expansion it's basically
>tier 0
Rune
Haven
>tier 1
Portal
Forest
>shit tier
Abyss
Dragon
Sword
Right? All the new cards for the bottom 3 are so shit they can't fucking replace anything in the current decks, all 3 have aggro variant decks and aggro is basically dead with all the wards and heal 10 at 2PP(lmfao)
>>531178209Bro literally every single one of their wards spellboosts
>>531178209B-bro all those cards they play spell boost...
>>531178209Anon... 2x A&G and 2x Kuon spellboost 16 by themselves, without using any other cards. And if you're literally using razory claw to clear a follower, you aren't doing a lot of burn to face.
>>531177908Amount of cards you don't want to draw per turn / Amount of cards in the deck per turn
How do you not know what a hypergeometric distribution is? Are you just playing based on vibes?
>>531178003Now that's a question I don't have an answer to.
>>531178252I remove it without attacking it
>>531177938>>531177971>>531178125Doesn't matter when roach will go extinct once everyone start ls spamming wards from the new set letting rune reign scot-free
>>531178216No, I was beating you with aggro abyss
Not anymore I guess
we need a way to distinguish havenGODs who stuck with haven during Set 1 and bandwaggoners
>>531178129Its all up to Odin to carry agro now
>>531178129Whats the new payoff for ramp dragon?
Oh...
I don't like that haven card. They're clearly setting up some dmg cut bullshit (that haven has multiple in sv1) so it won't have any downside
Storm haven still kind of shits on rune btw
Amulets doesn’t give targets for rune to spellboost on, and owen’s 3/3 statline gets cleared by salefa
>>531178209All the followers spellboost lol. Clash spellboost means shit like dragon is forced to spellboost 2, forest without using lily on it or having may will end on spellboost 3
>>531178271>sword downplayerPortal got literally 0 good cards too
>have to save my spell removal for a 3 drop against Rune
>they play Anne Grea 5 6
>have no removal left
>also don't have a board or any tempo left
>>531178326aieeeee aggro decks stop bullying me
>YEAH BUT ROACH KILLS RUNE DUDE
>*roach loses to literally every other deck in the format*
Only way they survive is if Rune becomes t0 and it's just that everywhere. Which is a possibility btw
>>531178271Pretty much yeah. The meta is going to be even less balanced and even more skewed towards the pet crafts than in set 1.
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>>531177609now I know why anne said that grea is a traitor and want to kill grea
>>531176414>3/3/3 ward with spellboost and followers draw on evoWhat a joke. Now I'm sure, they never playtest this game.
>>531178129Too early to judge, remember how everyone thought dragon was gonna be shit until they revealed this silver rarity mf?
I won the Astaroth coinflip but a deck which wins or loses on a coinflip probably shouldn't exist.
>>531177925It's to punish retards that crafted Kage so it's based
>>531178362portal doesnt need good new cards it's already OP
Everyone got ward
Ramp got fuck all
>>531178362Every portal deck will run a playset of the new 5 cost legendary
>>531178209Your burn that you spent as removals? Good luck getting through 32 HP btw
>>531178427I hate that MF.
>>531178447not anymore, it loses hard to haven and rune
imagine if you got transformed into a fairy
and the only way to reverse it is to traverse the forest
and you had to go though all sorts of ordeals
including venus flytraps
frogs trying to eat you
other fairies trying to rape you
salefa rolling over and almost crushing you, while you frantically sneak around trying not to wake her up
>>531178328What if I was a haven spammer during sv1 but haven't touched them in sv2 since I have no jeannes?
>>531178427that card made dragon t2 maybe, wasn't viable at all that expansion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPgClyOQ1Es
pro team vs pro team
>>531178368>didn't even drop any of their 0 mana flame destroyers and casually have a 0 mana dclimb in hand without playing any spells and the curve is already impossible to deal withHow is that fair again?
>every single rune follower will spellboost and ward now
this deck is meant to lose to aggro?
>Haven cancer
>Rune cancer
ONLY FOREST CAN SAVE US
THEY ARE YOUR FRIENDS
>>531178303>Amount of cards you don't want to draw per turn / Amount of cards in the deck per turn>How do you not know what a hypergeometric distribution is? Are you just playing based on vibes?Anon... There's a 18.7% probability of seeing two copies out of 3 cards in a 40-card deck within the first 12 cards (your starting hand + 1 draw per turn for the first 8 turns). If you mulligan or use any card draw, the probability only gets higher from there.
>>531178346It already can synergise with itself to heal another 10 while the crest is up because crests don't stack
>inb4 but what if the opponent doesn't bother trying to get you to 10 after you played the first one.Not sure most aggro decks can afford to 'wait' multiple turns.
>>531178413Alternate timeline Anne, where Grea burned down the school
>>531173735ZELL MAMMOTH WILL BE META
>>531178303It's always the retard that is the most loud and confident
New rune leggo
spell
6pp
heal 5 and draw 1 card
on spellboost: reduce the cost of this card by 1
>>531173270Hell I might just run 3 squirrel. Breaks portal bucks like nothing.
>illusion of grandeur belongs to Haven
Feels odd but it's what it is
>>531178525>that thumbnail8 future Spellboost Runecraft players
>>531178430Your also in range of double demon of purgatory so you got extra lucky
I want to fuck that thick 2/1 fairy in Legends Rise.
You DID get Daria right? She's the best leader now that rune is T0.
>>531178176Ward is cheat you dumb ass hag/rune/swordfag
>>531178525>5v3how is this fair
>retardcraft players creaming their pants over roach dying with ward shilling
>rune no longer has any counters
kek
>>531178627I reroll for Daria and got kuon cards off of soft pity
Kneel to the rune KING
Isn't Manaria / Mysteria a different archetype from spellboost and is also stronger too?
>>531178431>"Nooo, Kage is bad, only retards play him">JP figures out how to play him and overturn losing matchups>"...">KMR decides to cut him at the knees>"I'm glad he's bad, that's what you get for trying to play something that isn't standard"There's a word for people like you.
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>>531176414>Crests don’t stackNot bad not bad, I can see some use out of this. (Cute bunny)
>>531178627Daria in WB is actually quite shit compared to sv1.
Feels like the same team did her that did the old leaders.
>>531178328You ask suspects about what their thoughts on salefa and featherfall are.
If I wasn't a puppet fucker I'd be swapping to run next set.
>>531178303>How do you not know what a hypergeometric distribution is? Are you just playing based on vibes?Aren't you fucking embarrassed to be so retarded? Have some fucking shame and self-awareness.
>THEY STILL HAVENT REVEALED THE 2nd RUNE LEGGO AND RUNE IS ALREADY CONFIRMED T0
Please just be some dirt leggo so we can ignore it
>>531178584Please be real so I can quit this dogshit game immediately
>>531178584Too weak, needs to summon a guardian golem and ping face as well.
>>531173735Might as well just put in angel draw at this point
>>531173089THEY ACTUALLY PRINTED A ONE SIDED ROOST LMAO. UNREAL.
>>531178328Can I post my haven opinion now?
>>531178584>>531178752>>531178754You guys forgot about the dirt legendary?
>>531178752It's gonna be a low/mid cost Dirt leggo, probably one that gives crest to generate Earth Sigil every turn.
>>531178696Yes, but some of their early version is spellboost focused before they just made them a separate archetype. SV2 seems to just follow SV1 pack cards order with the cards adjusted
YES MR KMR DECK THAT WEAK EARLY NEED MORE EARLY PROTECTION, THEY CAN'T HAVE WEAKNESS
>20%
How does every Portal player always seem to have double Orchis. The deck doesn't even run much draw. I don't see double Garyu or double Cerberus nearly as often
>>531178584You forgot deal 3 damage on enemy follower
>>531178752>inb4 omega super dirt leggo so Rune can have two T0 decks
>>531178584Needs storm as well.
>>531176602>they make this chickenWait, I just logged in. Ho-chan is back?
>2nd legendary for Rune is a godlike Earth Sigil generator or something
>entire meta will be Runecraft Spellboost vs Dirt because they beat every other deck easily
>>531177872>1.67% to get at least 2 out of 3 of a given card by T8LMFAO we're reaching new retardation lows
Lil bro is only got double orchis'd once every 50 portal games what an absolute god
>>531178852>20%It's a lot more when you factor in the mulligan, and how Puppet always keep one Orchis in hand
>>531178584>5pp do nothing
>3PP 3/3 with Ward and Draw 2 on Evolve
>Eudie literally got powercrept after 1 set
Poor senpai...
>>531178834Rune has one more leggo to be revealed and uhhhh, it's not gonna be Earth let's be real here.
Restore 10 defence to your leader. Gain crest: Countdown 2: Deal ten damage to your leader
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>>531178980It's gonna be some retarded spellboost support. Spellboost 20: win the game or some shit like that.
Fellow swordbros, you guys are jumping ship too right? Which side are you going to choose, haven or rune? I think Haven is cheaper, just need 3* of the 2 new leggos and 3* Jeanne, the 5PP 3/3 heal/ward leggo is probably unneeded now because nobody is going to play aggro in this kind of meta.
>>531178960Evolved Senpai gives you from 3 draws to 3 heals.
>>531178584You forgot to mention it comes with a 5/5 ward and spellboosts for 3 when you heal.
>>531178835Sorry. Spell tempo legend. Rune gets to aggro you down now.
>>531179028Is Haven still looking good despite Runecraft?
>>531176414draw 2 followers is actually an insane effect. rune only runs 10 right now.
spellboost on clash and having ward probably means 2 spellboost from it and it's a 3 drop to help with their early game.
>I-is that a 3/3 with ward???
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CANT HIT THEM IN THE FACE!!!
>AHHH THE GAME IS RUINED!!!!
>>531179028haven loses to rune so if there's no aggro in the meta you would be retarded to pick haven over rune
>>531179021Giant Chimera Reprint
Blade Mage Reprint
>>531178764>>531179040>>531179057nah no ward that would be too broken
also this card is balanced because it costs 1pp when you get it off of dclimb so you can't play it into enhanced kuon 100% fair
Why are people forgetting about the rune legendary that was already revealed?
>>531176414>let's just make them draw AnnGrea even easierGreat fucking balance
Just woke up why are we melting down
>>531179028if Sword has a million fans, I'm one of them
if Sword has 10 fans, I'm one of them
if Sword has only one fan, it's me
if Sword has no fans, that means I don't exist
if the world is against Sword, I'm against the world
>>531179074You forgot the crest?
>>5311787524pp lego Levi 4/4 Ward
Fanfare: Earthrite (2): Deal 3 damage to all enemies, spellboost your hand 5 times
Evolve: Draw the most expensive spell and follower from your deck, then repeat the Fanfare effect
Owen is good. The bad matchups were aggro sword and face dragon, and he'll buy more time to stabilize the weak early game.
Time to chemo the ladder from dishonest ward hags and swordbabs.
>>531179071>draw 2 followers is actually an insane effect. rune only runs 10 right now. Actually it's balanced because spellboost will get another busted 3-of leggo follower so it dilutes the search pool lol
>>531179165Dirt is still going to job compared to spellboost.
>Forest cannot suicide Fairies onto Owen since he spellboosts each time
Damn, 2nd set and the card is already stupid
Set 2 tier list
T0:
Runecraft
T1:
Roach
T2:
Haven
Meme:
Anyone else
>>531179184You have 100+ more wins than I do with similar MP, how are you so bad
>>531179151instead they play a free summon demon then this then enhanced kuon
>>531179284>Haven and Sword downplayer
>>531179060Should be fine really, runenigs can consistently drop 3 0PP 8/6 on turn 5 now because of the search on evo ward guy, but if you have cum chalice at 6PP, you can clear it and you'll win if they don't have D-climb.
Anyway sword is unplayable now because of the said 3 0PP 8/6 behind ward on turn 5
>>531179291What is your goal?
>Rune is already dominating the game
>better release more support for spellboost
What
Owen draws cards, not followers. So rest easy there is no AG or Kuon shenanigans
>>531179284Portal downplayer hands wrote this post.
Reminder it's okay for decks to be OP as long as they're hard to pilot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USLoDWtTU0Y
>>531179254Oh, of course. I just wanted to make sure the posters talking about another legendary for rune can see it already happened and this is the second legendary today.
>>531179323YEAH HAVEN RETARD DROP YOUR SHIT MEME WARDS I CLEAR WITH MY 50+ BOOSTED STORMY BLASTS AND WILLIAMS IM SURE YOURE NOT GETTING SATAN DCLIMB RAPED T10 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>531178852bro your sylvia?
factor in them possibly mulliganing for her btw
>>531179349>dominating the game>its the 4th best craftlol
Remember when Wubby is great reset to tune down the ridiculous meta
>>531179028I love midrange sword too much to swap. I'll be seeing you guys at topaz next expac.
>>531179393>14.88%ummm based?
>>531179393no one mulligans for a 8 cost card in their starting hand, why is this thread infested with topaz shitters
>>531179325Congrats. You just let them spellboost twice
You guys are overreacting, rune won't be T0 unless they reprint pic related.
>>531179374>it's okay for decks to be OP as long as they're hard to pilot.This is never the case in any videogame ever
I've seen this sentence so many times in 20+ years of gaming and it's never been true or real
Every fucking time someone uses this argument to justify the state of a game the state of the game is always horrible
>>531177019Oh god, you're right. Each Fairy sent into it will boost their hand and it's a ward so you can't ignore it.
>>531179458oh wow I'm sure that spellboost is gonna help you once you get hit by 20 damage from roaches
>>531179474Preview of set 3 rune gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ack-ZtiKuYI
>>531179456You do if you are specifically Puppet, retard
>>531179165I main spellboost and let me tell you: the new 3pp gold card is custom and does everything the deck needs. So far it absolutely overshadows the dirt leggo
Spellboost was kept in check hard by aggro but this card has good cost (rune had no 3pp follower) AND good stats AND ward AND spellboost AND tutors grea/kuon it's genuinely insane. If they gave this card to rune in set 1 it would have been T0, that's how broken it is.
I think it's fair to say that this card and the haven leggos are the best reveals we've gotten so far.
>>531179458You know that throwing him out doesn't Spellboost? And his Spellboost only activates on Clash?
May deals 3 damage to him on Combo 3 so he just dies without accomplishing anything.
>>531179374This but unironically
Aggro sword needs a really pushed 1drop. They'll save the entire meta game
I'm about to derank to emerald, how do I avoid killing myself?
>>531179626stay there and you might avoid t0 rune meta
>>531179456regardless of whether it's the correct play or not, they can do it and it will increase the odds of them having a double orchis
>>531179512Can you point out in which of the sentences he said anything about overpowered, Mr. Retard?
>Runeniggers getting all the good cards
Truly the petcraft
>>531179547I forgot Fate's Hand existed, and I wish I didn't remember that bullshit ass card.
>>531179529puppets get fucked too
>one month
>balance already off the table
See you in Shadowverse: Beyond The Grave
You can tell the developers play Runecraft because the new ward exists exactly to FUCK with Forestcraft and its fairies specifically, in any other normal circumstance it would've been broken yes but it would've said "Last Word: Spellboost 1" or something, but it has specifically CLASH.
It's literally someone who plays deck that created the perfect card they wished for that fixes every weakness the deck had.
>>5311794746pp 2/2 is balanced bro
Well good thing I got A&G out of the park chest today, now I only need two DShift and this new Gold card to jam the new Tier 0 deck
>>531179741It's pretty much against every early aggro cause most of the early aggro cards are 2 ATK at best
>>531179717You think "OP" stands for One Piece, you stupid faggot?
>>531179474>bronzeVery possible, we havent seen any bronze and silver
With DClimb being propelled to tier 0 in set 2, Ginsetsu looks like an even more hilariously bad top-end for Abyss. Why do you want a 9pp stall card? Just to die to Satan next turn?
Think about the fact that dragon got a legendary that halves their deck cost and they are still objectively the shittiest class in the game by a massive margin and it's not even close. The legendary that should have been the hypest thing ever for the class that is supposed to be shilled is the symbol of the entire class becoming unplayable.
>>531179783albert without swinging twice? straight to trash can
>>531179006I wanna go there.
but ackshully this is balanced because he doesn't spellboost on fanfare
you can just hit him for 3 with a spell or something and he does literally nothing haha
wait which crafts can do 3 damage for cheap again
>>531179895almost every craft lmao
>>531179783Next set is omens and Raio is going to be even more spellboost support LMFAO
>>531179862Would be completely different if it drew cards or said "and your hand" but devs do not play Dragon and just throw random shit hoping it sticks
>>531179895>wait which crafts can do 3 damage for cheap againPretty much only rune, portal, and forest.
Does medical grade assassin bane trigger the effect too?
>>531179735I mean, forest at least has May, puppet just jobs to that card.
>>531179895Lots of them, the actual bullshit part is that the card completely negate Rune's weakness to early Aggro.
>>531179895Most classes have exactly one clean answer but they're all less likely to have it than Rune is to have Owen.
I think I'm quitting bros I don't wanna more runenigger dominance
Isn't the usual pattern for legendaries is one female and one male/monster, why does dragon get 2 female legendaries?
>>531179981>3 of the 4 decks of the current metabravo
>>531179895>ForestMay (Combo 3)
>SwordValse
>RuneStorm Blast
>DragonNeed 2 cards of Firenewt and the 1pp Spell
>AbyssReaper, Rage of Serpents
>HavenNone
>PortalStream of Life (Artifact only)
>>531179895Forest has may
Haven has that 3 cost amulet
Dragon has the 1 cost spell in overflow
Portal has the 2 cost spell
Sword has the ability to spread their cheeks wide
>>531179862If dragon gets another ramp spell and a draw spell that costs 2 or less it has a chance to be a proper meme at least.
You can already play her for 6pp with the new spell, its not so bad.
>>531180149Because both of them are fucking terrible just like the entire class
>>531180225Haven has that 3pp deal 4dmg amulet
>>531180149because if they didn't get waifus dragon would get 0% playrate
>>531180149Got to give them something for playing incoherent deck
>don't really understand grand prix so after placing b in my free run i don't do any more
>skip first two days of round 2
>do my free run now and go 5-0 for a pack a gold and 750 rupees
what the fuck i should have been farming this shit
>>531180225Using razory claw on a follower is awful in so many ways. And using reaper's brick to clear Owen is 2 cards to answer one card that also drew 2 cards for free... You're way down in card advantage after that.
>>531180225I guess for Haven you can use Dose of Holiness, my bad.
>>531180276Yeah I was focusing on 3 damage that I forgot it does 4.
Sorry dragon you gotta pay the feet tax. You can't be meta AND have feet shots.
>>531179741at worst it eats premium removal on turn 3, at best it's a 3/3 ward that goes 2 for 1 in the early game and spellboosts your hand twice. like sword can valse it but they're down a valse for when anne drops lmao.
I'm just gonna concede instantly against rune, no reason to get myself angry. I'll have fun down in Emerald with all the other non-rune decks.
>>531179895All crafts have at least 1 answer
But this card is still pretty insane
>give dragon a bunch of high cost cards
>still only have 6 ramp cards
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>>531179717If you mean the video he didn't on that slide but he did use the word later so it's implied that he's not fine with Ward Haven compared to the top tiers from this meta.
>>531180310well yeah go ahead, start splurging the rupees and go 5-0 two more times it's literally a FREE extra 750 while still getting the pack you paid for.
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I already have a full spellboost deck and doroshi if the second legendary isn't good I'm going to be swimming in vials fuck else do I invest in
>>531180515>fuck else do I invest inthe new leggos in Set 3 propelling Spellboost to t -1 deck
>>531179862I mean, halves it for what? I just feel bad for them when I play against ramp dragon, they have more PP than me but they don't have a lot of cards in hand to actually play and they just lose.
>>531180515Chicken dragon.
>>531180343He only draws 2 on evo. The earliest he can do that is on Turn 4 going second, and that is way weaker than an evo'd lesbians on Turn 4.
Yes yes, spend your removal on my 3 drop. Don't let me spellboost my hand oh no that would be bad!
You can still deal with my double Anna Grea, right? Hahahaha
>A0 Diamond
>varried meta, see haven some dragon too forest not too oppressve and balanced quantitiy of Portal Midrange Sword and rarely mirrors of Rune
>end up Sapphire after unfortunate losestreak
>welcomed by something like 8 Swords in row mostly Kage Sword that just farm rune
>end up in Ruby for doing a Win 2 Ranked mission starting from Sapphire
>tfw Diamond was the COMFIEST meta since emerald
Rune is pretty much unplayable outside Diamond lol, will reroll all ranked only missions until i have a new deck next set because this is ass now below Diamond meta
>>531180482Because playing Rune or dropping orchis is apparently appropriate and skillful kek
>>531180593But now he saves coin and tutors a&g and kuon for more consistent plays. Have you renewed your BP yet?
I've been neglecting GP, I didn't realize you needed 3 wins at A to get to Finals stage B
People are missing the point. Wasting a removal on Owen without triggering the SB means nothing when his whole purpose is too stall the early game.
It kills the tempo or t3 pressure you could have been building.
Forest at least has Fairy x2 May to swarm the board while clearing it, and Sword has Valse that leaves a body albeit weak.
>>531180593NTA but the big thing is that he can pull an Anne and Kuon which gives Rune a god curve going second. He could also just pull 2 copies of himself so it makes Rune into an even bigger high roll deck. They might just run 2 copies of it replacing the Seraphics.
>>531180619annegrea wouldn't die to 3 dmg anyway
KMR is a demon put on this earth to torture me.
That's the only explanation possible.
>>531180684>he saves coinFor what? A turn 5 William?
>>531180738no anon, I think everybody did get the point
that card is broken
>>531180759but if you remove the draw you reduce the consistency so there is a tradeo--
>evo draw 2HAHAHAH
Owen is literally the perfect card he's better than almost every single legendary. He stops aggro. He forces you to spend high value resources that you would have been using for Anne and Grea. If rune manages to brick he gives them an easy way to pull exactly what they need.
I have 2k rune wins in sv1 and I refuse to play spellboost for as long as cocytus is the finisher, simple as
>>531180871Why are they listing tempo loss removals then?
Owen needs nerfs even more than A&G desu...
>>531180482>meta is good when the craft I like is good>meta is bad when the craft I don't like is good
>>531179374>Game being an unbalanced mess is fine because I get to jerk off my own E.G.O for playing it.I understand some of the sentiment, higher skill decks are fun to play and make the meta more "fun" by proxy of the good decks being fun, but acting like this is the sole decision maker of the health of the meta is fucking retarded.
Any S rank guild recruiting right now? I can get 120 before the guild reset :(
>>531180653Kage sword does not farm rune, you are still favored git gud. Also you are not diamond
>>531180738Why the hell is he 3/3 when he has ward AND spellboost AND evo effect? 3/3 is the baseline for 3PP card and the card should have less stat the more powerful it's effects are, that's why bonemancer is 1/3 and this shit is 1/1
Dragon leggo would have been good if it included cards in hand
>>531180653Yeah very real, diamond is comfy but ruby and sapphire are unplayable sword and face dragon galore. 2 days ago I went from diamond to topaz and only like 3 of my non-diamond games weren't against dragon or sword
Where are all the abyss players in master? I feel like I'm the only one here. Doesn't matter whether it's diamond, sapphire or ruby. No traces of abyss anywhere.
>>531180961>unbalanced mess>Everything except Abyss and Dragon is roughly equal>People still succeed with those craftsYou are retarded.
>>531181037>that's why bonemancer is 1/3She's 1/2, anon...
>>531181037the baseline for 3pp is not 3/3, it's 3/4 I think, still, 3/3 is still way too high for ward, effect AND evo effect
>>531180939they are just listing removals, not GOOD removal options.
only a few can deal with it and feel good about it tbdesu
>>531181031>Aggressive aggro deck doesn't farm rune
>>531181037ambush is broken. see that pitiful 4pp 1/3 ambush gold card that haven has
>>531180908Draw 2 followers! It's a tutor that will give them tempo if they don't need to clear the board with Anne. If they replace Miranda with the 2pp golem summon then it will draw either:
>itself>anne>kuon>satan
>>531181037> that's why bonemancer is 1/3bwo...
>>531181153yes, "Farm", as in having a 50% wr at best against it. even for Face Dragon btw.
>>531181112Back in the day, 3pp wards were just 2/3...
>>531181037But bonemancer isn't even good...this guy summons 2 2/4 when he's dead and he has high stat too
>>531180149>Isn't the usual pattern for legendariesThere is no pattern. Look at Abyss and Forest and already. They just do whatever they want.
One singular gold card shot Rune up from top 3 to either top 1 or top 2.
Meanwhile Dragon has not gotten a single card that improves their decks in any ways.
>>531181216>>531181234You just suck then if you struggle to beat Rune with aggro deck
>>531180684>can coin him out turn 2 to cuck aggro>evo a second copy on turn 4>he gives you 2 more followers
>>531181238there's no way it's lower than that when 4 drops like dragon warrior and the monk are 4/5 and 5/4 respectively
>>531181238SAAAA
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ODORI KURUU BOFUUU
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NIRRRRRR
>>531181153farming implies that it has an actual good matchup
it's a coinflip (but aggro will feel good in games where they win i guess)
>>531181082I was unclear, I meant that "Using decks being hard as the only quantifier of a meta being good is retarded"
The early meta for SVWB so far has been goodish for reasons beyond "lol Roach hardest deck and best deck"
My only real gripe is how Rune is a top deck but also a veritable slotmachine and gatekeeps a lot of other possible decks and a handful of cards maybe being overtuned.
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Owen having ward means you can also hide Flame Destroyers behind him lol
Fairies currently getting boned by kage
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>>531181308The original Grimnir was a 3pp 2/3 ward with an enhance 10 ability. He was a 3x autoinclude in literally every single deck in the game, and people often played him on curve as a 3pp 2/3 vanilla ward and it didn't feel too bad because those were normal stats for a 3pp ward.
>Rune already has a 3pp 4/4 ward follower that spellboosts your hand twice
>everyone loses their mind over the new guy
>>531181164>ambush is brokenBroken where? D0 topaz? Everyone would be playing the 2PP 2/1 squirrel if ambush is so good like you said
>>531180759Lesbians giving 3 Spellboosts and bringing a Ward is broken enough, but the most broken part of them is the tempo swing they can do on Turn 4 with coin. They're effectively a 3 unit clear + at least 1 trade Ward + a 6 Atk body, and even if you can clear it they can just do the same thing again, then coin Kuon on Turn 6 to keep the momentum.
Using Evo Owen to search for Kuon is pretty damn useful, but doing it for the lesbians isn't as much since he effectively can only remove 1 unit on board after that.
>>531181289yes, the best Sword player just sucks, I guess.
Warring Thunder and Flame, Hnikar and Jafnhar
2PP
2/2
Enhance 5: Evolve this follower.
Last Word: If this follower has been evolved, deal 4 damage to a random enemy follower on the field.
Prepare to see 3x of this fucker in all of your decks.
Re-design Balto but this time with average rune powerlevel.
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>>5311814973/3 and the crest lasts 5 turns.
>>531181424Retardbro... She's a vanilla 2/2 if she spellboosts. To become a 4/4 she needs to eat dirt and then she doesn't spellboost. Owen can both have a ward and spellboost, all without needing to eat dirt.
>dragon gets a legendary that halves the cost of every card in their deck
>crickets
>rune gets a 3pp 3/3 ward
>mass hysteria
>>531181356>gatekeeps a lot of other possible decks It doesn't though. That's like saying aggro is gatekeeping Rune.
>>531181446Evo'ing Owen is a worth case scenario when things are really fucked.
Which is something literally no other class can do when their hands are fucked they just lose.
>>531176414so... when does eudie get a buff?
>>531173891>T7 died to tentacle
>>5311814973/3 stats
Drain
Crest no longer has CD
why does she hurt you though
>>531181424>3pp 4/4 ward follower that spellboosts your hand twiceit doesn't spell boost if you chose the 4/4 version babbling retard
>>531181424Bro... Uh... What the fuck are you even saying?
>>5311814973/3 and give him a evolve effect to negate the downside
>>531181530>card is shit and useless >card is broken and usefulsimple as
>>531181512no
the best is 000 roach bounce roach for 4+6
>>5311814973/3
The crest damages the enemy for 1 and heals you for 1.
>>531181289You just suck then if you struggle to beat aggro with Rune deck
Owen = consistency
By the time you can evolve if you didn't play ag is because you didn't have it
Also not having to eat as much damage face early is ideal
Not crazy just because of the timing you unlock evolve at
>>531181576The moon drives her crazy.
>>531181489I don't think it's strong
>>531181489>can be played as 2 drop>probably answers alouette at 5 without evo pointyeah they're in
>>531181530>Spend at minimum 3 turns doing literally nothing to even have a chance ot make it useful. >Now have to rely on top decking because dragon has the worst card draw in the game.>cant actually use any sick combinations because you are pulling one card at a time if you dont super evo a twilight or luck into the 3pp draw 2
>>531181153Runenigger can't fathom having 50/50 matchup
>>531181770We do. Sword and Portal are 50/50 matchups.
>>531181472He's not the best sword player and he jobbed really hard with rune
i think people should be required to at least get the 50 ranked wins as rune before declaring rune is broken
Black Knight should be Owen without the spellboost except she tutors Orchis on evolve.
>>531181497everytime the crest pings reduce the cost of a random card in your hand by 1
necromancy 7 reduce cost his cost to 0
evo effect do 2 damage to every enemy follower
>>531181530>>531181530dragon legendary is meme tier since 8pp do nothing and pray you don't draw the 2pp lizard next turn
3pp 3/3 ward+spellboost on combat is already good. Evolution makes makes the deck better since it tutors 2 creatures which also thins the deck for better consistency.
At least they didn't print tons of roach counters to weed out the only class that keeps rune in check right...
All they fucking had to do was give dragon discard effects on their shitty meme cards. Imagine if Burnite could eat the Chicken and half the cost of one card in your hand.
>>531181847Sorry but I only play honest crafts
>>531181542The problem, atleast the way I see it is that Rune invalidates any deck that plays as slow or slower than it because nothing has the same output at the speed rune operates.
I admittedly don't have any hard data on this so I might be wrong and slow decks are just "bad" in general and Rune skirts by for being a slow deck because it's the strongest.
Isn't it just overtuned ver of this. It'll give 2 spellboost most of the time but forces you opponent to trade i guess
>>531181884You don't play the 2pp lizard you just play ding dong, ruby. Ding dong evolve pray for something good or ruby and the next card is discounted
>>531181847Sure thing, buy me the Dreizehn bundle and I'll make the meta Rune deck right now.
Forestbros, our status..?
>>5311814973/3
deals 1 damage to you and your opponent, but whenever you take damage reduce cost of spell cards in hand by 1
>>531181446>>531181545Yeah, the thing with Owen is that he can stop bricks by drawing 2 followers specifically. Rune often has extra evos that they use in late game to evolve William for the 2 spellboost so having the option to draw 2 instead if you want to tutor Satan or even a Kuon to finish the game with a super evo can be gamewinning. At worst he's a 3pp ward for 3/3 that might spellboost you a bit.
i sure got outskilled my emerald roach
>>531181972how fucking poor are you
>>531181909totally bro
they're at least not pushing a ward meta that targets only rune counters
>>531181936No? This one is instant 2, while Owen does literally nothing if he's removed by effect, or only gives 1 if he dies in a hit.
New rune card is just a less sexy Merlin
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>>531181971>Ding dong evolve pray for something good>prayit seems like you're already aware it's a shit card and shit deck, glad you agree
>>531182036Poor enough that I'm not going to spend on something I don't want because someone else told me to.
Why the blatant favoritism on rune?
>>531182012why are you conceding?, summon the tiger?
>>531181489This is literally the fighter guy but better.
>>531181978I'll just play meme decks in lobby instead of ranked.
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>>531181576She’s the one getting hurt for you
>>531181489New portal lego is 5PP 6/1 and 3/3, this guy can kill it without needing the evo point, he's okay, can't do shit against Anne&Grea though lol
>>531182120The developers are blueniggers and rune has always been their favourite craft.
>>531182075You either get the ward or the spellboost and you don't get to draw 2 followers on evo for consistency in a deck that already runs very few followers making it even more consistent
>>531181914unfortunately dragon is not rune so you arent allowed to have any synergy between your cards at best you have a 6 cost brick that gives +1 attack when you discard him
>Nooo instead of drawing 2 cards on turn 3 they are now playing a 3/3 with ward! my gameplan of my opponent doing nothing is backfiring!!!
isnt 8 pp halving too late?
>>531182207they're actually doing both now
>>531182235Correct. It would need to happen at 5 or 6pp to do anything.
>>531181489>Prepare to see 3x of this fucker in all of your decks.doubt it. 4pp thunder is better unless grimnir has evo count related eff
>>531181497>Re-design BaltoJust make him 3/2 or 3/3 even.
I play him in my aggro list and he instantly gets traded into and dies every time.
His effect isn't bad otherwise, his only offence is supporting a currently nonexistent archetype.
>>531182114so this is the average person who considers themselves skilled enough to have opinions on balance
>>531182196Fucking hate blue. Hate that faggy color since 4th edition.
>>531182207correct, them doing nothing turn 3 is the only way it's possible to beat them
>>531181530Halve it for what? She's 8PP, at that point you literally can play anything you draw
>>531182207Taunt is cheat.
Just win the game before Rune starts getting good
>>531182107Yes I'm aware it's a meme
>>531181920I mean, what decks are as slow as Rune? That's just Haven. Even then Haven still has its storm bird and stealth wincons to fight it. The match-up isn't as bad as /svg/ makes it out to be.
Really, the only problematic thing about rune is the d-shift satan play but thats honestly just standard shadoba shit.
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I think Owen SUCKS
>Ward and board support this expansion
>Healing gold
I feel it in my bones, Elana is coming next expansion and you'll see real cancer.
>>531182317what
orchis jeanne cerberus all happen on turn 8 and they dont give a shit about kuon
>>531182317They suck at turn 1? When they can do 1pp 2 damage?
>>531182235you supposed to play it with this
>>531175132
>>531182338>the only problematic thing about rune is the d-shift satan play but thats honestly just standard shadoba shit.yeah so standard that huh only rune does it. every other deck at best removes 50% of your health from an empty board
>>531182298You can now play 2x genesis for 20 face damage in one turn.
>>531182075kinda funny that even he's a gamba card with wild variation in how good it actually is
>go against puppet>they have to blow their best puppet on him or spellboost you multiple times>fucking 3pp card eats up their orchis burst if they blow the good puppet>makes their hand clogged since they have to keep 3 regular puppets instead>so they might have to drop random puppets on the board and not use them just to not mill
>>531182207People can barely deal with eudie on curve as is, how do you deal with this shit without ramming your shit too much into it and then deal with Anne grea right after? Against a fucking combo deck already making you sweat turn 3???????????????
Rune gets one good ward and now everyone's doomposting
Where was this energy when every other class but Forest got a good ward?
>>531182317Rune doesn't suck on turn 1-2. It builds its wincon already
>>531175132This should have been a 5 cost, maybe reduce damage to 2. So you can
>Ramp>Draconic>Chicken
>>531182317stormy can kill literally everything and still leaves you with enough pp to use a draw spell all while buffing your hand
>>531177609That's Owen, Anne's bodyguard and avid watcher of her yuring with Grea.
>>531181489Abyss has such bad 2 drops I will absolutely be using this.
>>531182287Well, yeah, the average person doesn't spend resources on things they don't want because a stranger told them to. Only freaks would think that's normal, but if you're willing to pay for it then I have no reason to decline.
runeniggers gets OP ward in early game
gets to draw anne grea more easily
gets to avoid lethal
so with these, runeniggers can't deflect with "just kill rune by turn 5" and "rune can brick, bro", right?
>>531182338I'd argue Lamp is about as fast as Rune but it's also a Z-tier deck for reasons other than Rune being better than it.
My bitching about Rune is honestly just how bad the highrolls FEEL.
Yes, I know they're not happening every game, but it just feels so fucking awful when Rune draws perfectly and there's nothing you can do about it even if you draw perfectly too.
Dshift Satan probably shouldn't be allowed, not because it's too good but because it's a FUCKING COINFLIP.
>>531182486unfortunately the devs do not play anything but runecraft
watch dragon get 0 5pp cards which is just what he fucking needed
>>531182235Assuming you curve your ramp perfectly then no. The earliest you can throw out a 8pp unit is on turn 5 with coin.
Which is the problem with current Ramp Dragon deck, they keep giving the end goal for ramping but currently nothing yet that makes ramping itself consistent. Can only pray for the Bronze/Silver to have them somewhere.
>>531182426all you have to do is spend your 9pp drawing cards and pray you're not dead and get exactly what you need
>>531182467Everyone was calm when rune didn't get any new tools. Roach still doesn't have a way to deal with havens turn 6 7, and roachniggers losing are the loudest
>>531182338>Haven has a 40% chance to win if they go first. The match-up isn't that bad!!!!
>turn 5
>anne and grea with blaze destroyer
turn 6
>anne and grea with blaze destroyer
>lose
What the hell am I supposed to do about this?
>>531181489>Last Word: If this follower has been evolved, deal 4 damage to a random enemy follower on the field.So if I play this guy t2, play another t4 and evolve that copy. Do my t2 warring get the last word active too?
>>531182524ok I'm glad we established you have no idea what you're talking about
bet you also charge people to post your rank
>>531182583Bro, just play 3x the 3pp draw 2 heal 2 spell. You're now up 6 hp and drew 6 half-cost cards.
>>531182535the thing about rune is that they need to luckshit way less than other decks because their entire deck is just drawing spells
you're more likely to get double A&G'd then double Alouette'd for example because they just spend the entire early game drawing, if they do double A&G you they've not been very lucky, that's just standard for them
>>531182486Honestly yeah it's almost playable.
If the AoE was bigger or it costed less it'd be pretty nice.
>>531182406Satan has always been annoying like that. In SV1 you had sun haven hide behind ward and heal until they could play him savely and bullshit their way to victory. Or dragon dropped him early.
But what I meant that all throughout shadobas history there have always been win buttons that simply end the game at some point.
Arisabros we're actually unironically cooked.
Its so fucking over. It's done. We lost.
We're never coming back.
>>531182630Should have skillfully dealt more dmg t1-3 nerd.
>>531182630You can concede without receiving a leaver penalty on turn 4
>>531182641>Do my t2 warring get the last word active too?No. The last words are only on the evolved guy.
>>531182630concede out of respect to your superiors
>>531182641"If this follower" means the card itself bro.
>>531182630>saidou 2x gamma>saidou 2x gammacongrats, you traded 2 cards for 4 cards from him
>>531182630Just kill them before bro trust, it's not like they got an overstated 3 mana ward that tutors a@g and flame and spellboosts +1 for free. Bro.
So it seems we're in a 3 deck meta next expac.
Nigger rune, dollfucker portal, and ward haven.
All other crafts are largely unplayable.
>>531182780>no board pressurerune doesn't care about cards they care about getting to 10 alive
>>531182535>My bitching about Rune is honestly just how bad the highrolls FEEL.Oh yeah I agree with that. Pretty sure every runefag understands this too.
>I'd argue Lamp is about as fast as Rune but it's also a Z-tier deck for reasons other than Rune being better than it.Yeah Lamp is just utter garbage right now simply because the card pool is underwhelming compared to other classes. It's not even a real deck at this point.
>>531182865Swordcraft hands typed this post
>>531182865Puppet bros we're going to be meta!!! Until they show the new artifact legendary. They'll also just run out cards and still be better than us.
>>531182630How do I solve this as puppet? Zwei?
>>531182910It's possibly still overcentralizing but that's just me talking out of my ass with no real data to back it up that isn't conjecture.
What I can tell you is that Rune makes me contemplate uninstalling in ways Portal, Sword and Forest could never dream of.
>>531182630Most crafts have outs to this.
>>531182630Nothing, only 2 decks can deal with this, rune with 6+ boosted William or your own lesbian+destroyers combo, or haven with their cum chalice.
Nothing has changed at all, current or next expansion, other decks that's not these 2 still instant lose to this bullshit because they haven't been given any tool to turn this around.
Literally every time I turn on a japanese rune player they are sitting on two zero cost dclimbs, a 20 damage william,
I just watched one use a panic dclimb, pull another dclimb tutor it all the way down to 5pp from full, pull his other 0pp dclimb with draw. Dclimbed again pulled Satan and the dclimb which now costed, and wiped the opponents board then Satan Dclimb'd next turn.
>>531182747Is it really over...?
>>531182467"One good ward", before their Lesbians Rush Ward and Femboy Storm Ward you tripple nigger.
>>531182780>2 cards out of your 5 real cards that arent artifacts>4 cards out of his 8 cards>bricked your future artifact plays>he spellboostes his dclimb to shit and stalled out 2 turns of you doing nothing where you autolose to him turn 10
>>531183042Meanwhile dragon:
>8pp>4/4
>>531183080>1 bad matchup>1 50/50Over?
>>531182962We finally got our own Anne and Grea.
How is Haven actually supposed to kill anyone though? I genuinely don't get the ward haven hype
>>531183007What's the out for abyss?
>>531183170surrender button
>>531182747>go against forest>keep owen+triple blaze destroyer handthanks for the boosts, fairies.
>>531183170Mukan, pop your cemetary
Then concede when they do it again on turn 6
>>531183148The wards should be tank enough that they can survive most shit other than an overstuffed William, Chalice, or Twilight dragon. Then they get Jeanne buffed next turn
>>531182865?
dollfucker didn't get anything artifact can't use just as well
>>531176414Just compare this to Eudie. That's just fucking sad. Pet class is status even overcomes the poster girls of the game.
>>531178420They fully playtest, the fuck you talking about? KMR's favourite mechanic is spellboost. The dev team's favourite playstyle is combo. They nerfed aggro and roach, Rune's biggest counters. They 100% know what they're doing. They want tier 1 uncontested Rune.
>>531180482This is a braindead retarded take.
>>531180957This but unironically.
>>531204251did you just reply to me in an old thread with some nonsense?
you fucking faggot
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