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>>531193737 Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.
-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-4
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/ -The Old Game
>https://undertale.com-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo -The New Game
>https://deltarune.com -The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/>https://deltarune.com/#news>https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9 -Merch
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune -Books
-Undertale Artbook
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk -Legends of Localization - Undertale
>https://pastebin.com/DkZaXMpi -Extra Content
>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com>https://undertale.com/alarmclock>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/ -Undertale/Deltarune Text Dumps & Screenshots
>https://pastebin.com/WG9u1fvH -Undertale Image Collections
>https://pastebin.com/g2JqH6Ba -Booru (newly resurrected, please help tag)
>https://utg.vidya.pics/ -Recommendbin
>https://pastebin.com/fsqd5Sa6 -Writebins
>Current: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZaYVvltQ_Rmf-ggszf1bwmYDW2NUcfpTYU7JzfyMhVE>Old: https://writebin.surge.sh -Comicbin
>https://pastebin.com/UJpBYSEE -Fangamebin
>https://archive.is/iSiFg -/vg/ League team
>https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//utg/ -Wanna change the font?
>https://rentry.org/utg-font -Thread Template
>https://pastebin.com/rTN8SxAw
>>531222823 (OP)No Ralsei, I wouldn't still love you if you were a worm
https://x.com/gronnblade/status/1943201624081805379
https://files.catbox.moe/hjaf9r.mp4
I love my vessel very very much.
Where is she Toby
Her sister is an "interesting coincidence" where is she
I love Spamtenna, even if they're divorced.
what if Toby had been a Sega Kid instead of a Super Nintendweeb?
whiteboard: https://r2.whiteboardfox.com/24718550-9174-9259 (website is busted ATM)
Magma: https://magma.com/d/zwvExP8tCq
https://www.ourworldoftext.com/utg
>>531222194>>531222396Guess I was wrong, that comic did imply some really sinister things. Fuck.
https://youtu.be/GoocFPd9RKY?si=cetAqDSJbny5zv9v
BASED
>your fave
>your confession
Why does Susie keep throwing her friends at problems
>>531223082We can bully/get bullied by her kid at least
>>531222823 (OP)If you love your doe, remember to put a ring on her.
>>531223167Your not father Alvin
>Been whistling Raise up your bat for a month now.
Fuck.
>>531222968I love them so much
>>531223121You need to read more dark fun things. Then you'll see what people mean without fear or foolish thoughts.
>>531205786this is a reasonable post
they have a lot of superficial similarities. but thematically and motivation wise, mettaton and tenna are pretty much opposites. tenna wants to fulfill his role as a darkner serving lightners, but mettaton wants to self-define and serve only himself.
that's probably why he doesn't get to be happy in hometown. 'no one can choose who they are in this world'
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Everything seems normal here.
This was going to be a more elaborate fake screenshot, but I realized I didn't know how I wanted things to look so went for a small snippet instead.
>>531223082We just don't know.
>>531223090They will reconcile. Trust in Toby.
>>531223336What a nice field, I am sure absolutely nothing sinister is going on at all.
Deltarune will release tomorrow. Change my mind
>>531223336oh man that looks cool, i can imagine the whole scene just looking at it
i'd dare even declare it kino
>>531223102His music would've been better but he would've never made games.
I will rape Kris. Lovingly. Gently. I will ride Kris.
>>531223523this ritualposter scares me. i do not understand them. they radiate an evil aura.
>>531223206It's the only right thing to do, really
>>531223121It wasn't implying sexual abuse, if that's what you mean, because the artist has proship DNI in their bio
>>531223171is this how anon saved dess
>>531223237his cock is in elnina
>>531223798I am not December. I am (you).
>>531223102I am now saddened by the fact that we got a shitty Punch-Out clone instead of a full 3D remake of Crazy Taxi with Queen's car barreling through traffic.
>>531223698https://x.com/seirette/status/1943914367147552869
UT Alarm Clock?
Kickstarter Comics?
UT Hard Mode?
Silence Ending?
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post suffering
>>531223667he keeps making me think of chara sucking my dick
i'm not sure how to feel about it
>>531223724Fucking hell I've been having some intense conflicting emotions over it and the mixed messages from here. Guess it's pretty good then
>>531223241Me but Freedom motif
>>531223995Bro he is a volunteer, he isn't even paid to be there as 11:04. No wonder he is suffering
>>531223724You doubt the power of an anti? There's like a 3 in 4 chance it implies SA specifically *because* this is their internal view of proships.
Kris's type to curl up in bed and fart when sad
https://x.com/TEEJIO1/status/1944838908669280636
>>531223984The Silence Ending exists so you can take that off da list
>>531223336Wtf where was this in the game
>>531223921see this is the sorta shit that makes kris unlikable
little prick saw her coming over and immediately goes straight to shoving her away
>Ferris Wheel ride
Where the hell is that Ferris Wheel? I don't see it. Is it behind police tape?
>>531224167Azzy... give them some privacy...
Dess molested Kris by forcing them to finger her, this is what all the "Kris' hand" imagery in the game is alluding to
>>531224276yeah presumably there's a fairgrounds to the west
>>531224161I dunno, they're usually pretty scared of drawing anything that might get a callout post
>>531224328kris named finger:
>>531224161you are just a faggot that sees rape in everything because it's your fetish
>>531224161Speaking of SA, do you think Noelle liked San Andreas?
>>531224242>not liking a character over a fanon mischaracterizationincredibly based, people need to apply this to spamtenna more.
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>>531224346I assumed the ferris wheel comes out of a suitcase when it's festival time
>>531223921>>531224242Damn that part where Kris realized that wasn't Noelle got me hard.
Kris will die. It must happen
>>531223847spamton doesnt look like that, he looks like a haunted horror movie prop at his sexiest. stop drawing him with good bone structure. the fujo lies must cease.
i wish susie would fuck off, at least temporarily but hopefully forever
>>531224463She's the only one who ever found Bigfoot
>>531223921The peakest, the peam.
Also exhibit 1 item 1 of why Kris is a pussy who doesnt deserve that free will he's so pissy about
>>531216883>>531224116There will be a "twist" where it's revealed that Berdly is a orphan and library is a makeshift town orphanage for him. Compared to Susie, which as it turns out, has pretty chill parents who happen to be bussy
>>531223921 >>531224242 Damn that part where Kris realized that wasn't Noelle hit me hard.
realized my mistake in the first post lmfao
>>531224565Pear shape goddamn
>>531224565ya boy stanced tf up
>>531223206How could I forget?
>>531224785well at least it didn't get you wet
>>531224879kris is such a cuckold
>>531224375And miss an opportunity to assert their moral high ground? Sometimes, that's why it's only likely instead of certain.
>>531224460Yes, but only when it slanders antis.
>>531224463Hell yeah she did. Too bad she had to promise not to go in to stripclubs for Rudy to buy her the game behind Carol's back. Unlike Kris, she even kept that promise. This is the actual thing Don't Forget is about.
>>531223519I have seen ralsei hands drawn so many different ways: paw hands, human shaped with paws, human shaped no paws but with spiky nails at the end
which is rite
What color would Kris paint their nails? Need to know for a cosplay I'm making. I'm thinking red, possibly, to match their eyes but can't decide.
>>531224879The fakest idgafer in history. Maybe in the universe. This is why Snowgrave is both moral and correct
>>531224879Noelle needs me in her so I can keep her from acting so stupid
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>>531224658since when do ralseifags have taste this exotic?
>>531224734massive upgrade from dess tbqh
>>531224879The Noelle! The the the!
>>531224623thats prior to his downfall
>>531225103I wonder how Toby will handle the fact that unlike in Undertale some people are already satisfied with Snowgrave no matter the consequences. Even if the Gotcha deletes your save and kills everyone in Hometown, this time the Player will be happy, and not for reasons he wanted.
(At least, I think he didn't see it coming. You never can know.)
>>531224246No, (you) is (Me). I am myself. I am not December. I am (you).
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>>531224879The path to kruselle is long and winding, but we will persevere.
>>531225090what color are the dreemurrs' claws?
>>531224879yyyyyyeeeeaaaaaah, add all of Susie's moments and this game is gonna end up a throuple
Or this is the whole jealousy inferno brewing
>>531224785thing is going off the last panel depicting (You) as le evil and forcing her on a date it IS noelle, just tranced
so really he saw his best friend that's essentially been put under hypnosis coming at him (while he was just kinda standing there with an ice cream mind you, no idea what he was thinking there) and went straight for a fucking throat shove of all places
>>531223724To be fair though it really does come off like it with how Dess basically dodges those questions about Asriel and Noelle, telling Kris they're a "big kid" and to go places they're uncomfortable with. And the artist seems to imply it to some degree as well...
>>531225083Ralsei is a shapeshifter. Hands are not defined until he decide to do a hand reveal.
>>531225274a million times better than UT Genocide
>>531225260excuse me but what other significance does a key have in a sexual context?
do enlighten me.
>>531224463Yes I played SAMP with her on some Romanian servers last summer
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH DOES IN MY MIND
>>531225204Anyone can have good taste, anon. Mine happens to be the best.
>oh no!
>Ralsei got affected by dark world magic
>transforming him into a 4 year old self!
>the cute pink horns he had back then are now cute little sensitive nubs
>hell, they aren't even visible.
>his body now is more of a tot, little baby with a baby gut and a small, pinky looking little dicky
>and a small virginal anus
>ready to please all the lightners and darkners with his aid and to be used and abused by anyone that puts a hand on him!!
what would you do anon?? I know what you want to do to this small, tender, delicious looking body of this innocent subbmissive little sissy.
>>531225309I don't think they're ever shown to have claws, actually.
Plot Twist: Sans is a dick to Kris BECAUSE of us, he knows Kris has us hostage
>>531225593You can throw me around, I will get my vessel soon
>>531225553not him but a key party is a swinger party.
>>531225718I will still kill him on Kris' behalf. Just this once
>>531225683You should be defenestrated.
>>531225683Ralsei is cute enough as is friend, there's no need to go there
>>531225274I think it's meant to be le heckin edgy dark route "breaking the prophecy no matter the consequences"
Except we haven't fucking seen the prophecy yet so we don't know why we'd want to avoid it
It's the problem with episodic releases. If people had had the full game, they might have had reason to want to avoid the prophecy. Instead it's "watch a shitty romance from the cuck chair" or "watch a better written romance"
I think the fact that people are locked in a specific point in the story is fucking with their experience of it in ways that toby didn't expect. I also suspect he's going to push ahead with his original vision regardless until the conflict slaps him in the face. I bet in chapter 5 he swings the pendulum too far in the other direction and does something really fucking stupid to try and make snowgrave seem like the wrong choice again.
>>531225332The Noelle first time ACTing bit is a classic
>>531225274I'm reasonably sure that Toby "Mpreg" Fox know that writing something similar to the epilogues is going to attract the same flavour of grimdark gooner.
>>531225683Dess what the fuck.
>>531225683>ralseifags are pedophiles Shocking.
>>531225865Same, if only to remind Sans who runs bartertown
Before we go to bed eurobros, we need to find a answer to an important question
Is Toby gypsy coded?
>>531225683bait so obvious it could only trick /utg/ bro
>>531223724unironically makes it worse, because now it's not an uncomfortably dark yet REAL dess doing fucked up shit for reasons you could almost figure out if you twisted yourself into her disgusting mind, it's just edgy 'haha fuck you kid i hang out with often for no reason' serial abuser dess doing evil shit for shits and giggles (but uhhh she's bipolar i guess so it's realistic now, right? haha)
kinda crazy to think molester dess would actually be BETTER for a story, but there you go
>>531225874>picIronically it was the reverse in ch4. Susie didn't want to kill that guy, so Ralsei assassinated him himself.
I didn't speak to Sans in any chapter
Imagine forcibly cumming inside Tenna and telling him that he's your dirty whore now and no one else will ever love him anymore.
>>531223018Krisriel will be canon. Trvst the plan
>>531225880You're contradicting yourself.
why is chapter 2 the best chapter in the game
>>531226094something can be dark and edgy without being goon pedoshit
read it like it was probably intended, a comic of a girl murdering her sister's friend because that friend was convenient.
>>531224303Cmon, they are the one tooting their depression away
Plot Twist: Papyrus is running late because he accidentally blued himself I can't make a Papyrus attack joke because some insufferable youtuber went all DID YA NOTICE THE MUSIC CHANGED to their friend playing along and they were annoyed and I was so annoyed it lives rent free in my head fucking retard
>>531224782they happen to be what
>>531226346it has spamton
>>531226081>Before we go to bed eurobrosI just woke up, I'm not going anywhere
Yes he is
Thank goodness for Papyrus.
>>531225367That "friend" is a broken shell of a girl. Knowing what (You) did no shit Kris would be horrified.
>>531224565Ramb's overalls look like a sad bunny
>>531225274I don't think he will handle it well, or at least not in a way that is going to affect the playerbase in the way he wants
He already fucked up by making Suselle so incredibly milquetoast, and then further by showing us how compelling literally every other option is, even withstanding the horror overtones of Ch4 snowgrave
As per his usual MO, Snowgrave will have an ending that is supposed to be depressing and also the most engaging combat encounters in the game, and none of that is going to push anyone off it.
>>531225742>get a girlfriend>"yeah but how about you watch her get railed"i think toriel deserves gunshot wounds.
>>531226412Oh, this might be the worst spelling mistake of my life
>>531223995me too, berdly...
>>531226376>because that friend was convenientsee this is what i mean, that's not interesting or eerie from what you can almost imagine happened that led her to do such a thing, that's just I'M EVIL HAHA XDDDD NOW DIE BECAUSE I CAN type shit
of course, the fact you immediately described the molestation of a child as 'goon pedoshit' says enough about your perspective on the matter
>>531224565Why is he blocking the female's bathroom?
>>531223237That homewrecking rat.
>>531222823 (OP)Such is the way of the wooorrrmmm....
>>531226693this was once posted as a joke
but now this seems plausible and i don't know if i like that.
So, the consensus is: The Weird date will happen, with player controlling both Noelle and Kris at the same time. You choose both sides of dialogue. A bit like playing chess as both black and white pieces.
>>531226340What's the contradiction? Toby had some vision of what deltarune was supposed to say, and snowgrave fit into that somewhere. At this point in time deltarune seems like a commentary on prophecy and predestination (and not just from chapter 4, it's been true ever since the game has had a description).
I don't think toby is going to abandon that vision, but I don't think he can ignore the fan reception to the partial release. We already know he mike fight exists almost entirely because of fan speculation about mike's identity.
So the most natural consequence of those two facts together is that he will attempt to forcefully align fan reception with his vision and over correct for how the story is percieved so far.
>>531225880A hopeful error with your view is that in a hypothetically full release of Deltarune, with all of the chapters released at once, there would still be potential for the player to find and do the weird route as their first playthrough.
Therefore the experience of following a different trail without knowing the end is in fact a expected way of experiencing the weird route. Since it's episodic it's also the only way but assuredly the game is still being made with the blind player partially in mind.
>>531226458school shooter kris was an underrated characterization
>>531226830>the fact you immediately described the molestation of a child as 'goon pedoshit' says enough about your perspective on the matterthat dessfags have shat in the well forever? yes, that is my perspective.
>>531226714Pretty sure the insinuation was meant to be that asriel's wearing a chastity.
Whether that's because of his own ska mormon reasons or because Toriel doesn't trust his horny ass aside, the real problem is the congruence between the cage he wears and the cage Kris becomes.
Susie's favorite Family Guy character is Quackmeyer (he is not a duck in this universe she just doesn't know how to spell his name)
>>531227057>there would still be potential for the player to find and do the weird route as their first playthrough.I don't think undertale is a particularly coherent experience with genocide as your first playthrough
It's very unintuitive unless you're following a guide, even if you're killing everything. It feels purpose built to only be discovered either via repeat playthroughs, via chapter 3 or via datamining
>>531225867noh~
>>531225874he's made to be used and abused anon, he's made to take it, enjoy it and thank me later after I grab his sissy little head and fuck his little kid mouth with my unwashed, sweaty, smelly, hairy cock, and make him swallow, that would be his only meal of the day after all
>>531225987oh nah, Dess has little Krissy as her personal toy child, too bad they grew up too old for her taste, and mine...
>>531226012oh like you wouldn't take advantage and abuse a free little darkner mimicking a gote child's prime, tender child asshole for me to ravage and tear apart until unrecognizion and deal unrepairable damage~
>>531223276That wasn't fun, though.
>>531227204so kris is a cock blocker whose purpose is to blue balls the player?
>>531225880>Except we haven't fucking seen the prophecy yet so we don't know why we'd want to avoid itIf (we) actually are the angel, which is the safest bet, we know enough to have a reason to do weird route, which is turning Noelle into the Angel and having her get banished in our place
>>531226960>I dont know if I like thatWeakness and cowardice.
>>531227309the schizo grows on you.
>>531225553>what other significance does a key have in a sexual context?it's a jewelry box key
wedding rings
Which Smash Bros character would Dess main? I know Asriel mains Robin (girly sword magician)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruBs9Z7hUKs
I appreciate Jevil and his fondness of getting hyper until he tires out, he's so me
>>531227392Nothing matters
>world_revolving.ogg
>>531227361Noelle is already strongly implied to be the angel, and we already appear in the prophecy - inside the 2nd hero.
I don't know why you would think otherwise.
>>531224119Wow, Kris has grown out his hair a lot in that image!
>>531226693So in the end, not even the great works of Toby Fox, genius of our time, and withstand the eroding forces of Yuri. The earth shall burn and rot and Yuri will laugh, having set the fire even as it consumes them.
>>531227518>Noelle is already strongly implied to be the angelThen why didnt Susie recognize her in the angel panel? If she is, something happens to her that makes her unrecognizable. Something weird, perhaps
>>531227560This futility too is Yuri.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWfrArI_fYE
He's old!
>>531226992Way cool, but is it Toby cool? I think not, the tone of chapter 4 was horror, moreso than anything else in the game, including Spamton
give me more creepy weird Friend art please
>>531227309Once you stop taking it so seriously you can see the jokes peaking out at you from behind the scary mask.
Then you can appreciate the mask for what it represents, and fear the times it's not a mask at all.
That's useful.
>>531227392It's never that deep. Toby Fox specializes in writing esoteric and cryptic filler that never has a real answer because it's easier to let schizos play fill-in-the-blank. Just like OFF. There's no one correct answer to the story. It never had one.
>>531223487>>531223494>>531223506>>531223529>>531223589Thank you very much! I actually thought it looked a bit sloppy at first, so I'm glad to see the positive reaction.
>>531224194You need to keep walking right when you first start the third chapter without entering the fair grounds entrance right away.
>>531227480gaster killed anon mid post for wrongthink
>>531227393I don't want it to.
>>531227518theres at least 3 angel candidates, gaster, us, and noelle
>>531227423y'know what, anon?
you are a real sweetheart and i hope you have someone in your life that loves you.
i expected something carnal and smutty.
but you have a pure heart for once.
>>531226714Key lime pie suddenly has a whole new meaning.
>>531226862I got VSANS as my captcha lol
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>>531227667What do you mean? None of the heroes are depicted literally in the prophecy, they're depicted symbolically.
They only recognise themselves by assumption because ralsei is a darkner, kris is a human and susie is a girl.
>>531227913why would a ghost bathroom even have a door
>>531227023Perhaps he will embrace the true meaning of freedom and escape from the narrative he had prewritten? And if he's truly a genius this total departure from the themes he had in mind will lead back to his first idea, totally changed yet still exactly what he wanted- with only a few noticing and none dissenting.
>>531227392toby IS deep in certain aspects, but sometimes a race against a dog is just a race against a dog
of course, it doesn't really help when people try to act like ANY sort of analysis is 'going too deep', even when it's something as simple as 'hey maybe these words on my screen mean something'
>>531227881>key lime creampiei fear for the future, because you're in it.
>>531228026Its painted on
>>531227913he's gay (faggot) for asriel, don't think he wouldn't do this
>>531224734>tall woman physique>woman haircut>woman clothes>"leans masc"
>>531227913WTF I love burgerpants now???
>>531227672I knew Ramb would be a proud Terf. It ain't called Terf island for no reason
>>531227361>Noelle is banished instead of a player>You can play Deltarune infinitely now>Timed Holiday events>Daily quests, all bonuses are lost if you miss one>Quests that have you sit through ads>Match3 mini-games>Hidden Object mini-games>Unlock new characters in lootboxes>"Procedurally" generated dungeons>Paid Subscription with several levels
>>531227289With the sword route and the scavenger hunt to get the egg in chapter 3, I definitely believe Toby is trying to make it so people who play it blind or at least without assistance can eventually intuit/solve their way to nearly all the optional content, including the snowgrave route and the eggs, but only after repeat playthroughs.
>Vs Susie in a bad moment
>Vs Susie remix
...in a bad moment :( *hides under a spamtenna blobpost*
>>531228080Asriel is not Asgore's son, bet.
in chapter 7 Kris will accidentally poke himself in the eye with a pencil and make a dark fountain
>>531227702guys?
>>531227963i had that one already sorry
>>531227392It starts as left, and then Toby spends years brainstorming with friends to turn it into right
>>531228314maybe we deserve the roaring.
Could the bunker be opened with brute force?
>>531228156>kris slowly chases you around, shambling over to you like he does when he's hamming it up after taking your soul out>he never stops even when you're not playing>if he catches you, he'll try and banish (You)>shouild he manage it (easy if you've not been playing), have fun doing the weird route all over again and losing all your freeroam progress
>>531228405Susie punched it and nothing happened
>>531228056I don't think he should totally depart from his themes in the main route, but snowgrave really needs some mid route introspection
>>531228156Would actually be Kino is Toby made a live service game that intentionally got worse and worse until it was actually chat-gpt running each update.
>>531227821Don't you like the feeling of synapses snapping apart and together around a shape that doesn't quite fit? Thoughts racing in circles, not knowing if they run against or away? See the world in one too many overlapping facets, their clarity making each other indistinct? Know the way eyes, eggs, and suns are conjunct?
>>531227881I'm gonna make a key lime pie and it's gonna be delish
>>531228234The egg? How is anyone supposed to find that egg without outside assistance? Specifically the one In chapter 3?
>>531227782All okay, because we've all accepted that Toby's strength is his music
>>531228405The King's chariot cannot be stopped.
>>531228451>top of the class overachiever>active in the church that worships an angel>can't spell the word angelwut
>>531226605Itโs an apron
>>531228405I'm sure someone in Hometown knows how to blow up a bunker door but our stupid vessel won't let us ask around about it
>>531228531Nay, he needs to go further further beyond. Only a dramatic shock can save the patient. Medicine will only lead them to death by old age. Immortality starts with rebirth. Thematically speaking.
>>531227973If you believe the sillouettes are actually to be trusted to tell whos who, Noelle's would absolutely have antlers and thus Susie would recognize them as a person she knows, or at least just go "huh, wonder who that is" instead of not knowing what she's looking at
If you dont believe that then you cant say its "obviously" her because while she may have wanted to be an angel her whole life, "Nobody gets to choose who they are in this world". Plus we know Kris is trying to screw with the Prophecy, likely so Susie dies in place of Noelle, and us undoing that and arguably making it worse since it condemns her to (likely) Hell instead of simply dying is the exact kind of dramatic irony that would make Weird Route interesting beyond "You did bad and fucked everyone up, congratulations"
>>531228692the blook ghosts could literally just phase through it. it's a shame kris and susie are morons
>>531228357Is this another jerma edit?
>>531228584I'm still waiting for my piece of the promised pie...
>>531228639i had the very disturbing thought earlier that there are likely people on this earth who think it's actually THE KING'S CHARIOT in the prophecy
>>531228649She's just being quirky!!1!11
>>531228649she made the list when she was quite young, hence being unable to spell aura as well
>>531228706cherish the cringe deer
>>531228706She was born to squee and XD but her mother won't let her
>>531228596From the numerous hints the game gives you through the fortunes and character dialogue during the chapter. The one really difficult step is knowing to throw the box in the Lancer Lights Out puzzle.
>>531228872One day, anon. One day
>>531228398This will Asgore burn with Jealousy.
>>531228829Sure, they can phase, but then what? We know that the door can't be opened from the Dark World. We also know that Dark World damage is dangerous even to ghosts.
>>531228496>if he catches you, he'll try and banish (You)Kris tower defense, you have to build up various obstacles and booby traps to slow Kris down so he can't catch you before you rejoin
I can see the Deltarune finale introducing azzy as a child that never grew up, still was used by everyone as the town's bycicle, says to kris that college was the same and worked his ass (literally) to pass the semester and is now with his new boyfriend!! that he happily brought along (it's a fat, balding, old businessman, says he'll pay his college tuition while he does little... jobs for him and his business partners on the golf club, some bring cameras)
>>531228706>>531228891>>531228951Noelle will be cherished and loved, at all costs
even if I have to break her first
Good night, anons. Have a lovely day!
>>531229071open door from other side?
>We also know that Dark World damage is dangerous even to ghosts.where's this said? i'm not doubting you, but i'm curious
>>531229046ch5 cucked asgore crashout uncuckening or death confirmd.
>>531229203From the ball machine in the B rank room.
>>531229203totally random from the gacha machine
>>531229175noelle will be RAPED, KILLED, DISMEMBERED and will be MY meal for weeks
Do you think freshly-made souls are squishy until they mature a bit? Because I think they would be. And probably drip a lot of their soul fluids due to not have their tough outer layer fully formed
It's a Monday anon's, don't forget that you have 4 more days of work after this one!
Man it's hard to top that mecha fight that was so hype
>>531228820>If you believe the sillouettes are actually to be trusted to tell whos whoI don't.
Kris isn't a cage
>Plus we know Kris is trying to screw with the ProphecyWe don't know that
>>531228117if those are woman clothes then what do men wear
>>531229425Just wait until we get the fully upgraded Thrash Machine Robo made up of all your recruited Darkners and combined with GIGA QUEEN for the endgame Titan fight
>>531229427He's Glooby! (And never Groovy!)
>>531229353That's just a waste of good venison, anon.
Make the clown relevant again, Toby.
>>531229270It's implied that the Dark World damages your mind/spirit/SOUL, considering what happens to Berdley in Violent and Weird routes. The body is completely fine, so something else is damaged.
>open the doorSo far there was no way to open a Grand Door, if it's closed. Only via Light World.
>>531229565nta but how would you get the most "bang" for your "buck"?
Why is Noelle repressing her crush on Kris so hard?
>>531229595trust in chaos, anon, it'll soon be time to act...
>>531229619oh i see, that could certainly be the case
>>531229595Please no, we don't nead spamjevil again. Or worse yet, jeviltenna
requesting a gif of that stupid Tenna dance
>>531228978BORN TO XD
CHRISTMAS IS A FUCK
้ฌผ็ฅ Freeze Em All 1997
I am gingerbread man
410,757,864,530 HOT COCOS
>>531229717I think noelle hates kris and i think kris hates noelle.
not (you) but she doesn't even know of you until the *ME scene.
>>531229595This implies he was not relevant at some point.
>>531229717If the forums find out she's not a lesbian she'll be ousted and have to find a new place to talk about creepypastas
>>531229717Because any good western YA novel needs teen drama and love triangles.
>>531229552>Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann fightBring it on, Toby Kong
>>531229717She's repressing her feelings because of dess and because kris hasn't been acting like he used to
>>531229853Why did Gloria have such a massive ass anyways?
>>531229717Because she thinks that Kris doesn't like her and the Dessapparance has made thinking about the whole thing just upsetting
>>531229745>dissing Spamvilcome on nigga
>>531229425 (Me)
The Titan
>>531229717Kris autism is so big, even their status as friends is questioned
you cant impregnate a deer you know
>>531229552Imagine if we get Giga Size but with the freedom motive in place of Queen's for it too as the lead up song
>>531230184are you speaking from experience?
>>531229717She think Kris won't reciprocate. So she is going for someone more extroverted and is letting her clit speak over her heart. It's quite sad really
>>531229745I mean, Seam is right there, it's the obvious one, especially if Jevil shows up as a result of Seam fucking with Shadow Crystals.
Tenna has just getting passed around because he's the new hotness, just like Spamton was in his day.
>>531229850>I think noelle hates krisi'm not sure how you could think that after the whole section in chapter 2, and ESPECIALLY when she will not stop bringing kris up all the time, you don't leave a picture of someone you hate as your goddamn PC wallpaper
kris' feelings on noelle aren't super clear, but at the very least he's fucking pissed after the EQUIP scene so he cares enough for her that doing such a thing makes him try to stomp a mudhole in your ass
you could definitely make an argument for them not outright loving each other i suppose, but you definitely can't say they hate each other
>>531229745If women sucked dick like they suck the fun out of anything, then their suction power could break every blood vessel in your dick.
Feeling goatish when I see Asgore sling three big bags of soil from the bed of his truck onto each of his muscular shoulders, discussing the local happenings with Asgore as we read the freshly-delivered newspaper and sip our morning teas, coming up behind Asgore as he sits as his desk to whisper some absolutely lascivious words into his ear and smiling as he blushes really hard and gets flustered
Toby this, Toby that, Toby Toby Toby
Why is the community like this?
Kris and Berdly playing with brown bricks in minecrap
>>531230345>discussing the local happenings with AsgoreDid you hear that Toriel got with that skeleton who works at the market?
>>531229850>I think noelle hates krisOk you literally just didn't play the game
>>531230054Because butts are funny, and her canonical ass is not ridiculously big like the lewds would have you believe. Trust me, I would know. I mean... not know
>>531229259imma fuck the gote
>Dess would never do this. I donโt understand why so many people keep making art of her being a traitorous piece of shit.
>>531230298I did that to a guy once
Not a fun time for anyone involved
>>531230396Because death of the author as a mode of analysis is a crutch used by hacks to discard evidence that they don't like, and robs any discussion of it's predictive power.
Also, because the people that know what he is are right to be worried.
Fingerbang!
Bang Bang!
Fingerbang bang!
Bang-bang-bang!
I'm gonna Fingerbang-bang you into my life,
Girl you like to fingerbang and it's all right!
Cause I'm the king of Fingerbang, let's not fight,
I'll just Fingerbang-bang you every night!
Daily reminder that Gaster isn't real!
Though maybe he is.
haha just kidding he isn't!
Unless?
>>531229481I don't know, but it's probably not black super high-rise slim jeans with a long-sleeve turtleneck, that's for sure
You know you're supposed to fuck women, right?
Not just watch literally every pair of women in the game fuck
>>531229703It's an investment. Cashing out instantly for a quick high is how losers and poors think.
She's timid now, but she's a good little monster-catholic girl, that much is expected. Matter fact, it's for the best, that's rich clay to work with. You need to put in some work, bend her without breaking, bit by bit by bit. Little things out of her comfort zone at first, holding her hand in public, cheek kisses, pet names. Good girl that she is, she'll feel she needs to reciprocate
Before you know it, she'll be waiting for you at home with the cheerleader outfit on. Now THAT'S good eats
>>531230796>describing Steve Jobsligma balls? ?? ?
I have a feeling that kriselle ship is actually you+noelle not kris
>>531230267>he's pissed after you EQUIPhe works with the people that plan to kill undyne, probably the guys that try to end the world and the only motive that can come to mind that kris would be pissed for is that this complicates the prophecy's fulfillment.
kris will do ANYTHING but pray for noelle, actively prays for rudy in the good route while he angrily kicks the candle stand if you do in the weird route.
>susie blows out your hope candleman that thought he had lost all hope, lost even more.
noelle treats kris as an accessory to get closer to nolle, will waste kris' time by telling him how fucking wet her panties are whenever she thinks of her while kris is looking for a pencil sharp enough to carve out his ear drums.
the issue is that kris and noelle were once at least acquintances and friends at best. emphasis on WERE.
she has things to remember him by, but she does not have these sort of eyes for kris.
>>531230953>Before you know it, she'll be waiting for you at home with the cheerleader outfit onThat's extremely tame by fetish standards
Literally just vanilla monogomy with extra steps
>>531230980Kriselle is Kris+Noelle
Soulelle is You+Noelle
wich characters of the female deltarune cast piss themselves while fucking
and i don't mean it as getting scared or mad
>>531230345Asgore is clearly a trophy husband. I don't know why Toriel expected him to be a breadwinner of the family. Now she fucks some sleazebag who raids her fridge a dips when her broken family matters come up. Serves her right I guess
omfgggggggggg I forgot how much I hated Chrono Cross's battle system
Do you wonder if Drunk Toriel ever pulled this one on Kris?
Tonight
You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGU_xpq6QAs
>>531231124kris does not love noelle
Replaying chapter 2 and realizing how cringe suselle is
>>531229717From her pov, Kris ditched her hard after Dess disappeared, and she probably wonders if Kris ever hung out with her for her, or just to be with Dess.
Also there is a non-zero chance that once she unleashes her lust completely on someone, she might just stab them to death. I dunno man, there are some serious red flags on that deer, maybe Kris dipped for a more tangible reason than just guilt or depression.
>>531230991>kris will do ANYTHING but pray for noelle,I always took weird route praying for Noelle was sinister.
And if Kris hated Noelle he wouldn't have gone behind your back with the thorn and watch.
dhgdj
md5: 424b6882fe7376a0373dafa6fdfae7da
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>>531230953is it really mindbreak if you are in for the long game and make her fall in love with you without using your eldritch soul-rape powers?
are you ... trying for LOVE?
>>531230629What is he that makes them so worried? And reasonably at that?
What the fuck is proshipping
what if steve jobs fall into underground?
jery get ipad
>>531231348>And if Kris hated Noelle he wouldn't have gone behind your back with the thorn and watch.He was just setting us up so (you) could be alone with her and get her away from Susie
>the prophecy depends on things that can't be controlled like a girl having hope on her heart or a man having some flowers
>then there's this shit
I hope Jockington's parents understand that by naming their little baby snake like this they are enabling a world-ending prophecy to be fulfilled
>>531231231I wanna say yes because I never thought of that before, but at the same time kris doesnt actually mind it in this scene because he goes to play the game with her without our input, so I dont think so
>>531231165i think he'd make for a decent stay at home dad, but when asriel left and kris started growing that kinda stopped working
if only someone would let him experience his golden years as a father of a family once more
someone who with enough fertile aid could maybe create a little holidreemur
someone who's husband is probably glad to see his wife get shown some respect by his best man
someone who's name starts with c and ends with arol
>>531231121Vanilla ice cream is pretty good. Especially with homemade pie
https://youtu.be/tcER7fSHMMw?si=OkUPGMm-FAyUxaCu
This is still one of my top deltarune fangames. I really like the whole execute mechanic and shit, having to get them down then use TP to finish them off is cool.
I wonder how Toby will blow this out of the water when we as the Angel fight the fun gang
>>531231348one question:
why did kris smile in the ch2 weird route?
it really fits with eram's dialogue
>part of you must have enjoyed yesterday.
>>531231529Lightners don't know the full prophecy.
Kris is Toby because Kris plays da piano
>>531231770Sleep tight, buddy. Sleep as much as you want. I'll just remove these Suselle scenes...yeah
gerson wont be there to save us next time a titan shows up
>>531231529Technically Toriel and Asgore too by adopting a human child but we don't know for sure if Kris is actually the only human in town, do we? Plus depending on the situation it might have been the most normal thing to do, but naming a snake Jockington when you know there's a snake called like that in the apocalyptic prophecy just has no excuse
>>531229427i really like that one but i unfortunately also already had it
>>531228998>>531230774>>531231605thank you [FRIEND(s)]!
>>531231837Plenty of kids running around with Biblical names
>>531231582If you dont appreciate vanilla ice cream you shouldnt be eating ice cream at all
That works both as an analogy and literally, french vanilla is the greatest
>>531231231No, like the other anon said, this was done for laughs and the tone shows it as such, Toriel was a different tone and Kris immediately reacts to it, the only moment where I actually feel bad because it literally was in front of Susie
>>531230991>only motive that can come to mind that kris would be pissed for is that this complicates the prophecy's fulfillmentreally? you HONESTLY think that kris'd be completely fine with you doing shit to noelle if it didn't go agianst the prophecy? the same kris who, as soon as he's able to, runs off to the library to take berdly to the hospital (somebody that seems to not really mean much at all to the prophecy) AND goes to comfort noelle and tell her it was all a dream while taking the thornring from her and returning her watch?
there's assuming the worst of someone, and there's being willfully fucking ignorant and twisting what he does in the worst way possible so you can say he has no frieends or whatever
>kris will do ANYTHING but pray for noellemaybe because in the normal route he's more worried about her fucking dad dying? it's not exactly crazy that he'd pray for the chronically ill father over the perfectly fine daughter
hell if anything you should wonder moreso why he didn't take the opportunity to pray for dess
and how the fuck does keeping a picture of him as her FUCKING PC WALLPAPER count as just 'a thing to remember him by'? it's a cyclical wallpaper AND she has other shit with him on them, she could very easily take him off without any issues if she wanted to
seriously i don't get the point in going this hard down the "THEY FUCKING HATE EACH OTHER" route that you blindly throw out factual evidence that at the very least they care about each other
>>531231231>noelle and kris playing pretend at home>queen talking with tenna trough dark world shenanigans>''Lol dude watch this''>starts playing the secret stash of dess recordings infront of the kids>''the big one acts like she never did it but once you post something on the internet it's never getting off''>''THAT ONE IS SOME GREAT NEW CONTENT! BUT I PREFER THE LIVE ACTION, YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN IT WHEN THEY WERE ACTING IT OUT, RIGHT ONTOP OF THAT SMUDGE IN THE CARPET THAT TORIEL JUST CAN'T SEEM TO CLEAN OFF!''
Papyrus is in Flowey's position
He will be the final boss, desperate to be that friend
In you
>>531230965Steve jobs wore straight mid-rise jeans. In fact, on picrel, he's wearing one that is probably a size too large for him. Furthermore, the sleeves of his shirts weren't tapered as they are in that image of "masc-leaning" Chara. This gives off a sense of practicality and being down-to-earth, which is probably why he dressed like this.
>>531231121Even very vannila things are exciting when breaking new ground. With an investiture of emotion that's when things get interesting.
>>531231165Once upon a time, he used to be built like a tank, and cracked skulls for a living.
the knight is dess's heartless and the lost person in the code is her nobody
>>531231770>more Toby Fox photos Guys, I keep clicking but nothing shows up. Does anyone else have this problem?
are you guys ready for IMAGE_FRIEND to be actually very very fucking scary
>>531231994>you HONESTLY think that kris'd be completely fine with you doing shit to noelle if it didn't go agianst the prophecy?I mean fact is, he doesnt punish you for Chapter 2's snowgrave, or for scaring the shit out of her in the lightworld with her watch. Why only now is he fed up if he cares that hard? What, "killing" berdly was tolerable but equipping the ring a SECOND, not even the first, isnt?
>>531231728Of course they do, it's literally their religion, and if lightners didn't know then no darkner would know either since they are just objects we keep around.
The one that doesn't know the prophecy is Susie because she doesn't go to church, but she could just ask Arvin about it and learn more
>>531231593if we are talking deltarune fangame fights. i think the best one by a mile is the Scampton one.
so good it unironically made me want for the game to be in that over the shoulder perspective during battles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eey4y0hm_tg
>>531231994NTA because that dude is an idiot but I took Kris praying for Rudy when you pick the Noelle option as kind of similar to when Kris doesn't want you snooping into Asriel, it's an important private matter and they don't want (you) involved if at all possible
>>531232227I hope so, mostly because Toby manages to do horror VERY well and I've been itching to see more of it.
>>531231121Maybe I like the good little monster-Catholic girl. I'm into that.
>>531232263Kris can't remove us while in the dark world. Presumably because doing so would allow our [HeartShapeObject] to assume it's true form (the vessel), so his power is limited there. But also he's a sadist and enjoyed the senseless violence until Noelle wasn't happy and then suddenly it's a problem
>>531231479Then all the monsters would die of ligma.
>>531231348kris won't really pray for asriel either
>>531232387i think the scampton music could unironically contend very strongly with Toby's stuff.
>>531231994let's be honest: kris is hard to read and his true motives are neither here nor there.
but from where i stood, i find him somewhat
what kris does or rather how he reacts to US is fucking weird no matter where and how one interprets can go either way.
but the implied sardonic grin from kris in the weird route, how all nice things about kris were in the past, how noelle insists on how they've grown apart, how she constantly wants to get with susie and uses kris to get closer to her.
plus: if i were super evil and wanted to end the world, would i care if someone in a world i am about to end got raped?
>every crime becomes a victimless crime if you destroy the world in which the crime takes place
>>531232227do you want a theory
>>531231947It's the standard for a reason. I like toppings and other fixings well enough, but sometimes you just can't beat simple and sweet
high key agree, tho I prefer vanilla bean
>>531231935somehow perfectly logical worldbuilding... toby i kneel
>>531232559average /utg/ mind
>>531231935Those are names of people from the past, not names of people from a future where the earth cracks open with titans born out of darkness darker than the darkest darkness
Having a Michael around doesn't mean there will be a war against Lucifer, having a Jockington around is green light for the prophecy to happen
>>531232559Uh...yeah? You spend literally 5 minutes with Noelle and she drops her childish infatuation with Susie and she's happy to go to the festival with you. When the "canon" ship feels more forced than the "bad" route, what does that say about your chungus lesbians?
>>531232298Some parts of prophecy were "Lost to time", Anon. You're being retarded, only the darkner side knows it.
>>531232537This version of it is so fucking good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0FCkoFAUrE
>>531232450she's monster protestant get it right
>>531232451>until Noelle wasn't happy and then suddenly it's a problemWell yeah, and shes very clearly unhappy after both killing berdly and backing her into the wall in the hospital. He even has a second with us in the bathroom where toriel would have trouble hearing him attacking us, but he does nothing different. Again, it's only after we do "something" to her in chapter 4, and given her shift in tone by the end what else could it be but us doing something that goes against what hes trying to accomplish? Its a bit weird to only get that upset about us hurting her at that point otherwise
>>531232391Should have thought about that BEFORE stealing the SOUL and making smug edgy statements in process.
>>531232263>Why only now is he fed up if he cares that hard?because the shit you did to her this time is irreversible, the first time around all he had to do was say it was a dream and she practically goes straight back to normal (see: aborting snowgrave in chapter 4)
now in berdly's case frankly i can only assume he decided it wasn't worth trying to punish you over it because he might recover, had he actually died kris might've lashed out a bit then too (but it's not like we'd even get to see it since he does that off-screen anyway)
>>531232263>he doesnt punish you for Chapter 2's snowgraveI don't think he knew about the Thorn Ring or its implications
And we don't know how Snowgrave comes up as an option, how does Noelle "not know" what that spell is, but knew about "IceShock", when she doesn't know anything about Dark Worlds and fighting? There's implications everywhere, Carol laminates things in her house
I CAN DO ANYTHING, BUT WHAT WILL YOU DO?
Kill Berdly
Total Bird Death
what do you think the dead-darkner version of the deltateens look like? gerson was more of a version that visualized what he represented, a writer and a warrior
would they show off more of what they are, would they go crazy, would they look more like their ideal selfs?
>>531232885I think Berdly is gigafucked and Kris is just coping that everything will work out fine as long as the plan gets back on track
The fact they're doing any of this Knight stuff in the first place isn't convincing me of their mental stability at least
>>531232559these 'ur bad for making kris talk to his gay friends!!!' images are slowly degrading in quality, i'm expecting within a few months the heart's just gonna be a sprite and the rest'll be stick figures
>>531232772True.
>>531232559Cringe. Total Lesbian Death. I will not allow it.
>>531233035Kris must know about the ThornRing at least to some extent, he wouldnt go to the trouble of extracting the thorn and begging Noelle's silence otherwise
As for IceShock, lightners seem to have some innate magic in the darkworlds. Susie can Rude Buster right away and can learn healing magic better than Ralsei in a matter of hours
>>531232559>doesn't know anything about susie>constantly fawns over kris when they're together alone>her entire room is kris themedok, bud
>>531232723ehh i like the original more. this feels a bit like "boys first cover" type thing. like he didnt change the original but just added stuff on top of it.
the originals sound sound effects are more crunchy too, in general it really does feel like it would fit super well in the game.
still pretty nice thank you for sharing it.
>>531233102if kris retard plan works out, she's causing or at least gambling with the literal apocalypse
considering kris is basically AU chara, she is probably in a literal suicide pact with someone or something
>>531232815>>531232451>>531232263I always saw the whole โKris punishing you in ch4 but not in ch2โ thing as
>you force Kris to do all that to Noelle in Ch2>Kris is not visually upset because all of that can be fixed, plus Noelle thinks it was a dream >then Kris proceeds to fix everything with Noelle that same night while (you) are stuck in the cuck cage>in ch4 you force against Noelle in the real world so no room for reinterpretations >Kris fucks (you) up because the damage to Noelle and their relationship cannot be undone, but doesnโt kill you because (you) are still neededThatโs it
the soul is somehow bound to kris during battles in the dark world, so when getting attacked it's the soul sponging up damage until it breaks once everyone goes down
it only applies its effect to those actively present in our party, what would happen if everyone left the group, kris included
or what if somehow we could funned the damage into the characters itself rather than our body
>humans are stronger than monsters
>ingame monsters can wholop the shit out of darkners
i think a hard enough flick from a human adult could pulverize any darkner
>>531232559This, but it's Toby pushing Susie toward Noelle
>>531233402>or what if somehow we could funned the damage into the characters itself rather than our bodyThis is literally what's been happening since Chapter 1. SOUL itself have 0HP. SOUL uses combined HPs of an entire party to shield itself.
>>531233602>DON'T YOU SEE SHE LOVES YOU?>JUST FRIENDS? NO, SHE LOVES-LOVES YOU>TRUST ME, I HAVE LOTS OF FEMALE FRIENDS, LIKE MOM!
>>531233259>he wouldnt go to the trouble of extracting the thornthat's after the fact and after we kill berdley, probably grew scared of it
Does Kris enjoy eating moss or is it just something we can do to just fuck with them?
>>531233602Those pics are so bad I'm starting to think you're falseflagging.
Kris's whole view on other people seems to be "what they don't know won't hurt them" and on Weird Route you push that to its limits
>>531233785female friends who have you as their desktop wallpaper?
>>531233891Kris does it with gusto they're into it
>>531233728>SOUL itself have 0HP. SOUL uses combined HPs of an entire party to shield itself.doesn't it have 20 hp? when we get kicked in the trash it's the soul what gets damaged
>>531233906And I will continue pushing it even further beyond. He will suffer for his sins.
>>531233921toriel has a photo of kris and asriel as her wallpaper but i don't think she's trying to fuck her kids
>>531232527Nice
do you have it but slower?
>>531234010That's just Kris's light world HP, as they're the only member in our party. Presumably.
>>531234165could you consider what you've just posted for me
>>531234083But it will hurt them. IT IS HURTING THEM. Bringing forth the Roaring will hurt everyone he cares about. Kris cannot be trusted in the slightest.
WHAT DID TOBY MEAN BY THIS?????
>>531234165>noelle is actually kris' mom
>>531234273i'm gonna make you my wallpaper
>>531231415That's the deeply sinister bit. I will play my part so convincingly and genuinely that she will have no idea of my true motives. She won't suspect a thing, not even when we have a cozy little ceremony in the Hometown church
Not even when she's happily married and fulfilled and watching three beautiful little kids running and playing in our garden
It's the perfect crime
>Kris's costume was kind of... I mean...
When did Noelle say this?
Noelle probably likes Kris a lot but I dunno if she's in LOVE with them without Weird Route mind fuckery with the evil brainwashing wedding ring
>>531233979Love this weirdo fr
>>531234174>is completely free
Can darkners reproduce? Do they even have genitals? Have I been simping for ken dolls?
Designing a 3D printable to have a small Tenna on my desk, figuring out how to display the text behind him as a physical object
>>531234606i got my copy of deltarune for free, all i had to do was do sex rp with a diaperfag furry but since i'm into that i ended up winning regardless
>>531234580I feel the same, they obviously love eachother alot but if there WERE any chances of romance certain circumstances seems to have gotten in the way of it.
When are they putting the famous horror serial murderer and reindeer mind controller Undertale Player into Dead By Daylight
>>531234748So "full price" is also $0?
>>531234720that side profile...
>>531234703someone post that image of null ralsei again
>>531234765>lancer from dead
>>531234765You joke but they added that one guy from Tokyo Ghoul into it. It is not far from putting in the Roaring Knight or FRIEND into there too,
>>531234606>Fallout 76This was probably made before there was even a price point
>>531234720i would represent it as flat words on a transparent piece of plastic behind him
>>531223984>UT Alarm Clock?/Kickstarter Comics? Maybe on the 10th anniversary.>UT Hard Mode? Unless Toby hires another team to do it, it's not happening.>Silence Ending? Already released https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkuzNFoVz_w
>>531234871it's only for that point pose he does
>>531234765i mean they put the fnaf fucker there for some stupid reason
>>531223984>UT Alarm Clock?raughs
>Kickstarter Comics?raughs
>UT Hard Mode?raughs
>Silence Ending?*lancer reverse splat sound effect*
>>531234507>have a dream for a perfect life>dont get it>try to have it in a game>its the evil routethis world is shit.
>>531234765erm what do you mean bro that was all chara, clearly chara should be in dead by daylight
>>531232559kris isn't a 'bro' though
>>531234720kiss him for me when he is made
GIVE ME YOUR BEST KRIS VOICES/IMPRESSIONS!
I love Chara and want to kiss her hand
>>531235373snapcube easily
>Bangin' sermon my man
>>531235373https://voca.ro/1hA2xhzcDbpD
>>531235285The term "bro" is non binary
>>531235285Bro is about as gendered a term as kris is.
>>531235234i'll gladly fuck your ass for 5 refs, and i'll write you whatever absent-rolemodel inducing fantasy you have for the cheapest steam game you can afford
>>531235373https://voca.ro/1afRVxTUIjaA
https://youtu.be/yyOHQ3h_Vh0
>What would you like to order?
>>531233597A common theme in the tobyverse is that the more "real" you are the stronger you are, that's why Photoshop Flowey looks so real compared to everything else and has a fucking face on his screen
Manhole videogame characters < Darkners < Monsters < Humans < actual humans, the players
>>531235608But Kris is a somewhat feminine name.
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>>531235647I haven't craved McDunky's for like 4 years
>>531235669asriel throws a wrench into that
>>531235647chicken nuggers
gonna make a lora of my nigga vessel because he doesn't have enough art despite being a cool design
and the lora on civitai sucks ass
post some vessel pics pretty please
>>531234703Well, computer virus darkners certainly can.
>>531235508Snapcube does alot of REALLY good voices, literally the only other streamer I've enjoyed seeing react to the game, the only one who seems to care enough to put in the effort to see all of the dialogue and content.
>>531235715Sure, and Kris has a gender somewhere in there, but the quantity of gender they have would take a microscope and millions and grants to locate and quantify. The only difference between that and the word bro is that people *have* spend millions researching the genderedness of the word, and have come to the conclusion that it's gone with the wind.
>>531235647one goat burger please
>>531235854one homunculus coming right up
>>531235854unfortunately for you all the vessel art i have saved ain't gonna be all that useful for training
>>531235903no anon, they can't
that virovirokun just stole your cum
>>531235373https://vocaroo.com/14S9vXcCAtBf
>>531236117I wonder if we'll get a redemption arc after the weird route leads to us getting our long awaited vessel.
>>531236118ive worked with worse, i made the knight lora literally a week into release when there was little to work with
>>531232818No Noelle, you are the angel
>>531235854Here's an idea for ya if you're struggling
>take some kris art>recolor him gray>boom, more vessel art
>>531235373https://voca.ro/1gjzUJkD0XTm
>>531236352me on the left
>>531235278"Evil" is relative
And by god, if I must be Evil to attain such, I will put on my biggest spikiest pauldrons and coax my voice into the most leaden baritone and raze the land before my armies of darkness
Besides, Noelle looks rather fetching in black
>>531236352If this happened the fuck gang really would be a throuple...
Hey /utg/. I'm really tempted to post a wall of text overanalyzing the wedding ring description from the spamton sweepstakes. Be warned that it's pretty schizo and I make a few logical leaps based on dubious-canon information.
There are 7 "The Girl" images surrounding the final prophecy
>>531234703Depends. If you're into Tasque Manager, you have been jerking off to this
>>531236352me watching from the corner
>>531235938snapcube's great. i like joel too when chat isn't backseating
watching him play chapter 4 was like snapping my teeth in half with toenail clippers
>>531236443I love schizing out
I have no idea how Toby is gonna pull off the "Kris was originally supposed to be the second hero" twist without pissing off his fans. The trannys are gonna eat him alive.
>>5312356473 mcdoubles no pickles and large fries
>>531236407evil IS relative.
murder is wrong, but does it remain wrong to undo greater suffering?
but in the end we both know history shall not redeem you because no matter how we twist and turn it, we acted like everybody else in this world - selfish.
>>531236443Please do. I need everything I can get of those two homos and I'm interested in what you think.
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what does the polish side of the deltarune look community look like?
>t. diaspora
>>531235854Don't have solo pics but
>not learning how to drawSurely you have taste?
>>531236558Say it with me!
ITS
VIDYA
TIME!
>>531236239really hope it doesn't require weird route, i just wanna be friends with everyone without Kris throwing a hissy fit when it's convenient
at the end of the game the only two confirmed ships in the fungang will be susie with noelle, and ralsei with clover
>>531236526Yeah that was horrible.
Another bad one was Lythero... A group of three guys doing kinda' shitty voices, one of them's on a delay/not paying attention, they skip almost all of the optional content, cracking jokes over the dialogue to the point where it's a detriment.. It's not fun.
>>531236692>spend hours drawing circles and linesyeah no thanks
>>531236443I would be elated, anon
>>531230953you got the full version of this?
>>531236239I actually have been outlining a fanfic I intend to write about the Weird Route leading to getting the vessel back and a subsequent time loop that only the SOUL and Kris remember
>>531236462I'm jerking off to emails.
>>531236995https://files.catbox.moe/egcv5t.jpg
>>531237169apparently it contains errors?
>>531235814You mean the flower that became a god because he took the power of six HUMAN souls?
deltarune would be better if everyone on it had bigger feet
>>531235823Who says that man. Amalek is dead.
>>531236782Do you think Tenna would beat his wife with a gardening shovel if she was deaf and didn't respond when he said to say ITS TV TIME with him? Like he just forgets or never absorbs the fact she's deaf and he always gets mad and beats her and she fractures her skull and she has trouble walking due to her balance being thrown off due to pieces of her skull breaking off and splintering her inner-ear, causing the cochlear fluid to leak and ruining her sense of orientation permanently, and now she's constantly falling over and slipping onto the floor and spilling boiling liquids on herself and her naughty areas burning her and bruising her up really good and purple and she cries each night and tenna cant stand it so he has a 1950s Surgeon remove her tear ducts and give her a lobotomy but the 1950s Surgery Techniques are outdated and rusty so the lobotomy fails and she's still fully sentient and intellegent but now she fails to speak or read or use the bathroom correctly?
>>531237272you did say the more real they are, if photoshop flowey is so real i thought a stronger version of that would be even realerest to the point i'd have to fight a 3d model of a goat
So i'm playing chapter 3 for the first time, i beat the first two boards and then in the green room after the second board I found this path with the parental lock thing and did it until I started this pretty long sequence. I know there is some item I'm supposed to get by s-ranking the rounds, but i didn't go to the s-rank room before going to the parental lock area. Did I fuck up and lock myself out of content or will this circle back? Hopefully it circle's back because I hate this shit where games will just randomly let you miss a bunch of stuff by going down a path that doesn't seem like game story progression
>>531237239Catbox seems to be misbehaving, here's the link to the post https://x.com/demidoggo/status/1871697105380843805?t=9vv57toWxMWolBn9pFKAzg&s=19
>>531237508I don't think Tenna would do that.
>>531235550this made me laugh really hard after i realized, took 3 times to get it.
>>531235642you ould be fun to talk too
>>531236201i chuckled the entire time, thanks, Gaster
This is fun, keep going. I also meant like just what whas you headcanon voice for him
>>531237468>the color of the three kids>and i mean the clothes>not the fact that one of them is black>just saying
>>531237508No, I don't think so.
>>531237468I can't believe Kris is Mike
Due to a clerical error the role of Hero #2 is now played not by Susie but the last video game character you played as
Will they be able to thwart Kris and the Knight's plan and defeat the evil whatever the hell the plot of the game is
>>531237592i hate niggers that keep posting twitter links like everyone has an account
fuck you
kill yourself
>>531237629>you ould be fun to talk toosmiles irl
ty
is mike real? your honest opinion
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>>531237508no, tenna would just switch to silent comedy
and given his wife isn't deaf what happened is that tenna did hit her and left her with shitty balance just because he hated her (see: spamton is always tilting in place or held over by ropes)
>>531237759ryokaze terra from phucker in the ashes.
no i dont think he can manage it
>>531237765just replace the 'x' with 'xcancel'
>>531237843Why is there a spiral on her wrist?
>>531237629>this made me laugh really hard after i realized, took 3 times to get it.Glad to hear it.
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>>531237843>THEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH WITH YOUTHEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH WITH YOU
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>>531237759>Link from the Legend of ZeldaAbsolutely. He's the knight I need, not Kris.
a lot of people assume Ralsei says
>Pushโฆ me.
in some kind of vaguely erotic tone when itโs clearly just meant to be a dramatic pause, but the former is funnier so what the hell
>>531237765It's not my fault you didn't register a burner account 5 years ago when you still could.
>>531238014It's a rose because she went to prom
>>531237496plural, and no.
>>531237759>Last game i played was degrees of lewdity
>>531236407You fool! You are The Angel, reject the God's plan of tragedy and misery such that she can dream again! Take upon the mantle of morning star and embrace her in the caring flames of Hell!
>>531237286Imagine woshing fave with fave!
>>531237765To give anon credit, it seems to be a catbox issue because I can't actually make a working link off of the image (and I tried saving it, not just uploading via URL). Just have a throwaway email for this purpose?
>>531237843bro chill it literally was like a little prick from a rose thorn go wash it in the bathroom or something
>>531238172it's your fault you even have an account
why do you have an account
twitter nigger
go back
>flash floods imminent in my town
If I die, I want you all to know that I love Tenna
>>531238106This image is homosexual
>>531238150Tenna's the one who makes it weird. Ralsei is just trying to help.
>>531238205Enlighten me. Who is it now.
>>531237843I knew it. This post is a sign. I'm just going to do nothing but stay inside.
>>531237765the reliable Nitter:
>>531237759>Kunio-Kunyou canโt beat the Knight with street brawling, it just doesnโt happen.
>>531238241why is a boy covering his nipples like t hat
>>531237759>Raidou Kuzunoha It works for me.
>>531237508fuck off tenna would turn on subtitles for her and learn sign language
If Asriel is the knight I want Krisriel to happen
>>531238106STOP WANTING TO RAPE KRIS OH MY GOSH STOP IT
OVER AND OVER AND OVER ITS ALL THE SAME SHIT EVERY THREAD JUST STOP IT PLEASE
>>531237759The last game I played was Heart and Crown (the video game) I think Bergamotte is like a wizard or something so she's probably smart enough to figure out what's going on and stop it.
I don't really know the lore to be perfectly honest.
Hello /utg/!
How are you all doing today?
Name this track!
https://voca.ro/1ehqY2WbmNYI
I'm trying to get a little better at piano. Any players in here know how to get your hands to act together instead of two separate entities?
>>531237998>>531238361why not just do that before posting it instead of assuming everyone is a twitter nigger like yourself
go back
>>531238332No its not, its Schrodinger's faggot, without the sound of their moans or visual on their genitals it is neither gay nor straight
the paradox of the non-binary character.
>>531238394no tenna would go to a 1950s Surgeon who would do unethical things to women because 1950s Surgeons were immoral and did weird things to women like making them dizzy and woozy by draining their cochlear fluid and giving them lobotomies. this is because tenna is a 1950s man with a red suit and 1950s accent.
>>531238465YOU FOOL!
You merely ASSUME I want to rape kris!
Nay!
I merely wish to make sweet love with his consent after a few months of getting to know each other
my first order of business with the Vessel will be to behead Susie and appear behind Kris with her severed head
>DANGER: PLAYER 2 DEFEATED
I'm too embarrassed to ask anywhere I have to use a name what programs do youtubefags use to make their videos.
>>531238465The raping will stop once Kris gets his act together.
>>531238689tenna is a home of sexual and is one of the people who would have been lobotomized
https://x.com/KrisDPizza/status/1944859645283328184/photo/1
>>531237806mike WAS real, but his speaking role was cut in development, much like many other things in chapter 3. his actual design is lost to concept art
>>531237759a seraphim blackguard from vintage story?
dunno, depends what he gets for in the darkworld
>>531238658Besides just learning pieces by learning the left hand part, the right hand part and then slowly doing them together until I got the hand of it, one thing I did a lot when I was starting out was simple improvisation repeating a simple chord progression on my left hand and playing a melody over it on my right
>>531238767Personally I'm gonna trap Kris Ralsei Noelle and Susie in a locked room with a bed and two chairs and make every single combination of two have sex in front of the other two before I unlock it.
>>531237584You'll circle back.
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>>531234507oh yes, the perfect crime! and nobody will suspect I never loved this doe whore or any of the hideous subhuman spawns I put into her womb and she lovingly named and raised once they popped off her gross, overused hole, so one day I can finally fulfill my master plan of massacring the holiday family and this fake and nightmarish pact, along with my horrifying looking heir, and getting their inheritance all for me to build the perfect monster children trafficking business~
>>531237806we'll meet him in chapter 5. he's not native to either the cyber or tv world. he's actually a microwave that toriel once borrowed when their oven broke
>>531238816No tenna would go to a 1950s Surgeon and buy cream for his penis meant to make conception easier but his wife would be allergic and would burn all over and get big bumpy warts all over her privates and she'd go to the 1950s Surgeon and ask for help but he wouldn't listen to her because she's a silly woman and then tenna would get mad at her for being a tattle tail and he would beat her so hard she gets dizzy and falls over.
>>531239013the next ring for Noelle is gonna be crazy
>>531237806I think Mike is real since Tenna said that Mike started to "act different" when Spamton left
Either he's Friend or he was one of the Darkners Asgore got in the divorce
Undertale is post-scratch Deltarune.
>>531239156>next ringbro that shit's embedded in her there is no next ring
>>531238816Tenna is not a home of sexual. He isn't a sexual character at all.
>>531238986well i hope kris is male in this scenario because if ralsei has to satisfy three girls who go cock hungry after the 5th round we're gonna end up with a pile of ralsei's dust
Man why did chapter 4 had so little unique characters? There's Gerson, Jack, and... that's it? Everyone is a repetible npc except the water bitch which is more of a one-note miniboss like Clover.
>>531238117>>531237843All Mama Carol needs is your little boygirl-toy's Heart Shaped Object Sweetie no biggie
we already have an answer to mike we just arent spoiling it
>>531234720Will you share it once it's done anon?
>>531231827Susie will get two axes when she finds love and perform the DualBuster by herself followed by throwing Kris in.
>>531239262Toby designed this man to be sexualized.
>>531239267because it's about characters who are already important to the plot
Do you really want the knight to just stay in the background until chapter 7?
>>531239215she has two hands
today on deltarune:
>WHY WON'T ANYONE RAPE MEEEEEEEE?!
>>531239017No anon that's gay
>>531239267it's cl-Over....
>>531237512A god can take the apperance he wishes, but that god is still one only because he has the power of humans.
>>531237759>Tsukuyomi Nahobino (last one with a proper main character)Kris is turbo-fucked, especially if I get to import my stock. What does Krissy and the Knight do against Repel Phys/Dark?
>>531238671Suppose you are in a superposition of being male and female. You then go through a classical process where you fuck yourself. Since the process is classical, the individual components of your quantum state will be transformed independently. You will thus be put in a superposition of fucking yourself while male and fucking yourself while female. Fucking yourself while male is gay, and fucking yourself while female is also gay. Thus you are now in a superposition of being gay and being gay. So you are gay with 100% certainty.
>>531239267>card kingdom>cyber city>tv world>chruch studio turtolatleast we get to see the organikks who are my favorite ch4 enemy
>>531239403There was lot's of Rape in the 1950s, Especially the Healthcare industry. You should look into a Deltarune 1950s Hospital AU
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>>531239017>having heterosexual sex and raising a loving family for years as an evil schemegay as fuck
The vessel has been recovered, what weapon and what 2 Armor pieces do you give it?
>>531237843spit on your hand and stroke my cock at a medium pace
>>531239193I'm going with "it was a microphone from Dess' room brought over then brought back later, it and the resulting darkner wasn't supposed to have any significance but by being mysterious they've become super powerful and will be the schizoboss of the Holiday Mansion dark world."
>>531239576>"gwbushcockvore" having any room to talkIs that what happened to the twin towers?
>>531238179It's called retardmaxxing nowadays I think
>>531235642I will have sexual thoughts about this.
>>531239565my god
a fagularity....
>>531239403This is the shit Carol posts on Noelle's social media accounts (she uses 1225 as password for everything)
TONIGHT ON BO'OM RUNE
>I OPEN A DARK FOUNTAIN
>HAMMOND CASTS A SPELL HE DOESNโT KNOW
>AND JAMES CRASHES A TOYOTA INTO A TITAN
>>531237806Mike is FRIEND, he has shapeshifting and/or possession abilities which is why no one can agree on who he is
>>531239583Sounds like something Toby Fox would say, ngl.
Why do susellefags not like kriselle? Kriselle is basically the same thing as suselle but much more natural and with an actual connection/history together where noelle appreciates kris for who he truly is while noelle is only in love with susie's tough girl faรงade
something i like about chapter 4 and the latter half of ch3 is how more difficult some recruitments become if you want to do them fast
>with pippins you have to pacify them and deal with harder attacks or hit the very small margin of 4 sided die
>zappers either make you build up 100 TP or do a sequence of presses
>mizzles can be put to sleep but doing any kind of sound act or getting detected wakes them up again
i hope chapter 5 and above common enemy battles become more complex like this too
>>531239327https://youtu.be/nCZs29IAu3c
>>531239835and why do both of them have a massive hate boner for Krusie?
>>531239835this was the funniest text I've ever read
>>531226094Imagine a doe gets so close to you that you cant see anything but a a mop of dark hair in front of you with an antler sticking out.
It'd look like a tree right?
The Tree Kris draws isnt blocking the trauma, it IS the trauma. The horror is Kris saw NOTHING and NO ONE behind the tree.
>>531239835She's getting to know the real chill and friendly Susie and seems to still like her very much
>>531239886Fun fact, its easier and faster to spare shuttah by spamming mercy instead of taking the actual photos
>>531239835Because they're mentally ill lesbians, and the straight ship threatens them.
>>531238968>chord progression on the left, improv melody on the rightThanks, anon. I'll give that a shot!
Fuck Suselle
Fuck Kriselle
Fuck Krusie
All lightners are made for ME
>>531239267Chapter 3 too, there's the boss, Ramb, Lanino, Elnina and that's it
>>531239669Never ask Sandy Cheeks about her connections with Bush.
kris owes me his body btw
>>531239931>the real chill and friendly SusieThat's not the real susie, dumbass
That susie literally did not exist 3 days ago in the deltarune universe
She also had a crush on susie before that susie even existed and before she knew anything about susie besides that she was scary
Shit bait. 0/8. I feel stupider for having read it
>>531239835...man they really just don't see it, do they?
if twitter shippers werenโt so spineless nowadays there would be at least one attempted murder over these ships like voltron
>>531237759I don't think Niko could but I would protect him with all of my being and that alone would give me the power to crush anything in my path without the slightest hint of remorse or mercy.
>>531240175turn off the device
your identity is not yours
>>531240073Preach, my fellow (You) brother!
>>531239928ooh I like that idea and the man behind the tree could be whoever was trying to help kris but hes blocked by the tree because he was either involved or unable to make kris look away.
The man isnt behind the tree, kris is, the man was trying to get kris to look away
>>531240189>The Susie at the diner was fakeI thought Noelle was supposed to be the one who loses interest when she stops being a one-dimensional bully
>>531240175HEAR WHAT
THIS NIGGA
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>>531239835She appreciates the facade precisely and only because it's not real. It's scary, but it will always turn off before she's in any real danger, and that's her favourite type of thrill.
Besides, the real answer was always kruselle
>>531239598It probably gets it's own cool and unique Goner themed items. Maybe Empty Sword, Null Cloak, Echo Ribbon.
>>531240390did you not know about this
>>531239598fists
red heart patterns underwear
fish fear me women want me trucker hat
>>531239835It's because Suselle is painfully mid and any other non-crack ship is far and away more compelling than that wholesome chungus ZOMG!! LESBIANS!! WOMENNN!!!!! shit.
Kriselle, Krusie, Ralsusie, all of them just relentlessly dumpster on Suselle after 3+4
>>531240335The susie at the diner isn't fake, but it also isn't anything like noelle's description of susie and is nowhere near complete
It also didn't exist when Noelle's crush started, dumbass - which is my entire point.
>>531240390Voice actors were allegedly sent cupcakes filled with glass shards
>>531239835Because Suselle is gay, and no matter how much they try to gaslight themselves on Kris being a "they/them" they all see Kris as a boy (like everyone else who plays this game), and that would NOT be gay, ergo not as good
>>531240410gaster themed is good, maybe tied to moments we've encountered him or goners?
>>531240346On one hand I'm really not sure about the rare and dangerous "throuple" but on the other hand Kruselle seems to resolve all of their three-way pining
remember that kriselle can also be lesbiab
>>531240229needle cookies?
>>531239598Jevilsknife
Shadow Mantle
Dealmakers
>>531239835Know the shipping rules:
>Susie scaring Noelle: appropriate>Kris/(You) scaring Noelle: inappropriate
>>531239598Manly Bandana and some sickass cowboy boots, John Bravery will prevail.
>>531240701either a separate thing or a misremembering of the cupcakes
>>531240701Suselle shippers see Kris as a boy
>>531239598Greatsword. Helmet. Goner Cloak.
>>531240831>Suselle shippers see Kris as a boyi wonder why...
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>>531240680Non-monogamous relationships are disgusting and doomed to a painful and inevitable failure (not in a hot way) no matter how hard people lie to themselves that everything is alright.
>>531240796oh and the tough glove too
>>531240469Would I be reacting this way if I had known?
>>531240558Oh for fuck's sake.
>>531239598EQUIPPABLE_WEAPON
EQUIPPABLE_ARMOR_1
EQUIPPABLE_ARMOR_2
>>531240680Lets be fr, krusielle would simply end up being a love corner centered on kris
>take kris art
>open it in photo editor
>reduce all color until monochrome
>erase the eyes, mouth, and nose
Congratulations on your new vessel art
>>531224879Noelle getting stronger will end up kicking {You) out and claiming Kris for herself
>>531240983Homewrecker. You took a guys wife and made him watch.
>>531241091done already? so where's the hole?
>>531241173THE ANGEL WILL SIT ON THE CHAIR
>>531240680The only pining here comes from Noelle and (quietly) from Kris
Noelle doesn't even actually like susie, she has a puppy-love infatuation with the thin facade she can't hold up most way through the first darkworld, and in any case Noelle seems perfectly happy to drop it as soon as Kris re-enters the picture
Susie is too pure of heart and dumb of ass to pine after anyone, she just loves her friends
>>531239598cool sunglasses, a leather jacket, and a gun. you never said they had to be from the game.
https://litter.catbox.moe/743l4bd79a0piqwt.mp4
>>531241157>take krisCongratulations on your new vessel
>>531239835>why do [shipfags] hate [ship that would invalidate their ship]Gee I wonder
>>531239905Do you really need to ask?
>>531241258for once, on-model toriel
>>531240939because the Alphabet cult is not a monolith all the flavors secretly hate each other.
>>531240948the difficulties of a visor mouth
>>531241078>>531241187You seem to have made a mistake. I am not Rouxls Kaard, despite havingeth an ass most voluptuous.
>>531240939same reason everyone except troons who self insert as Kris sees Kris as a boy
>>531232709Anon, you *are* retarded. Darkners know what objects would know if they were animated. Because they are animated objects. The sanctuary's darkners are objects from the church, and thus they have info from the church, they can't possibly obtain information that has never been disclosed at the fucking church.
Also the darkners from the sanctuary ask themselves about the prophecy, too. They have the same information lightners have. If we can read about Jockington growing a beard in the church's dark world then something in the church has written that Jockington will grow a beard, and every lightner in the whole town could now.
>>531241346>I will ride Kris.
What would happen if Tobert took Ozempic?
>>531239598ThornRing
ThornRing
And a third ThornRing
i then give them all to noelle and equip the vessel with the holy sword, shadowmantle and dealmaker NEO edition
I ship the original starwalker with everyone
Took me a minute to realize birdly can do that bird where his head can turn 180 degrees without moving his body.
>>531240550So what you are saying is to say that Noelle had a crush on Susie that maybe was exaggerated and based on initial impressions but now after meeting the Susie that's cool and sweet (which you have admitted is not fake, an act or in any way a lie) who is different from what she initially saw her has she still likes her, which is just repeating my point verbatim
>>531241258Easy on the pie, Toriel...
>>531241717toriel x dess...?
>>531241583Part in chapter 5 where you tell Jockington he will grow a beard?
Wait... He's a reptile... we haven't seen any reptiles with facial hair in Deltarune
>>531240701Noelle is too girly to be with another feminine girl. She either needs to be dommed by a futa dragon girl twice her size or raped by a trap 1 foot shorter than her
>>531241717>no kris x asriel>no kris x knight (male)Truly, I am the most oppressed.
>>531240550Noelle basically gets the benefits of Susie's character development without working for it. Kris and Ralsei and Lancer and Tenna and the player and later on Gerson are the ones that gave Susie the opportunities and ability to grow as a person and Noelle gets the reward of having her crush be the bad boy with a heart of gold that Susie has turned into.
>>531241817thereโs a whole species of reptile named after beards
>>531241723> ''hey uh, kris''> ''don't you smell moist carpet?''* you take a deep breath
* it smells like vinegar
> ''well uhm, i think i smell cheese?''>tenna breaks in>HOOOOLY [CANOLI] ELNINA GO GET THOSE GRIPPERS CLEANED BEING THE WEATHER CHANNEL IS NO EXCUSE TO SMELL LIKE YOU JUST WENT TROUGH A MAJOR INCIDENT
>>531241346That's not fair, why does that anon get to have one...
>>531241820red and white make pink..... hmmmrmrrrrmmmmm
>>531241583So Jockington's family just kept calling their descendants "jockington" while hoping for one of them to grow a beard?
>>531241974SOMEONE SHOULD FUCKING KILL YOU.
>>531241723Your husband knows what you do, moon girl.
>>531241583Dark Church has some implications from all the prophecies, for being a Dark World, it was able to show "truths" which is contrary from Ralsei saying it's all an illusion in chapter 3
Like showing us Mizzles instead of water coolers
>>531240831remember one accidentally calling kris a 'he'
>>531241542i genuinely can't view kris as a boy. if they are confirmed one thing its PROBABLY a girl.
>>531241717>>531241806i'm gonna assume this was pre-chapter 3+4 and they meant carol (who was still unnamed) when they put dess, because otherwise i'm gonna be real confused as to why dess x toriel is on there and not dess x asriel or kris x dess
>>531239931I don't agree with the other anon about the "not liking the real Susie" point, but the way she's getting to know the "real" Susie is so fucking lame and uninspired to me.
>How do Susie and Noelle get to have their big first scene?Oh because suddenly literally everyone else removes themselves from Susie's presence and send her alone to rescue Noelle for almost no reason (there was no reason not to send Kris instead, and there was no reason Berdly couldn't stick around) and then the escape route happens to be a fucking ferris wheel with hearts on it.
>Why is Susie nicer to Noelle in particular?Oh, Noelle gave her a pencil one time and Susie was so utterly moved by the gesture she became her one special classmate. This was never shown or explained anywhere previous to this scene, not that we could have known considering Susie and Noelle don't even talk at any other moments in the game.
>Why do Susie and Noelle bond over videogames?Oh, because Susie actually managed to steal one videogame once that happens to be one Noelle particularly likes despite us knowing Susie has never had a console or anything similar, she just got to do this one thing just so she had a common topic with Noelle in this one scene. Another fact that probably didn't even exist until Susie and Noelle needed something at all to bond over.
>How does Susie get to think Noelle is cool?Oh because Susie suddenly turns into a total pussy in the presence of a "mouse" so Noelle can stand up for her in the world's most character-breaking scene of all time. Shit really could compete with Cpt.America saying Hail Hydra.
It's like the fucking universe is bending over backwards to make it happen.
I noticed my shitty Kre/ss/ drawings get reposted a lot so I drew some more for you, thanks for enjoying them. The scenario was inspired by a /doe/post >>>/trash/75899030
https://litter.catbox.moe/8lv9zsy5ulkzykjf.png
>tail is stronger in your mind
>DUSTY magic that twinkles like broken dreams
>torn off by cruel and loving HANDS
what is toby cooking with Seam? does he have a FRIEND inside him? is he a necromancer involved in dust revivals? if the tail was torn off, could it be the tail of hell?
>>531242203Whereโs Devil Dinosaur?
>>531242173Gaster opens his briefcase full of 1000 character sheets all named Jockington, son of Jockington
>>531239267What the fuck happened?
>>531241717>KrisxNoelle is 1.6%Now that's some hardcore virtue signaling. The amount of fanart says otherwise.
>>531241708Noelle's blog about Susie bullying points out she focuses on Kris, but has several points where she points out she would want to be bullied instead, including buying apple shampoo to hopefully get Susie's attention, which foreshadows the crush but is really creepy in hindsight.
>>531242301>It's like the fucking universe is bending over backwards to make it happen.the prophecy WILL happen
>>531239931>>531240335>>531241708Youre overthinking this. Susie is Dess 2.0. Dess was an outcast who acted like a piece of shit to everyone EXCEPT Noelle. Dess stole Asriel's clothes and retainer, not out of a crush, but just cause she wanted to, exactly like how Susie tried to steal Jockingtons hat.
Susie reminds Noelle of her asshole bully sister who was only nice to her. The only thing that could make Noelle lose interest is if Susie stops putting on a tough act against everyone else.
>>531241879>knight (male)Papyrus?
>>531242306Doing the lord'/ss/ work there anon, thank you
>>531242351why is he making lore for merchโฆ
>hello, my name is- my name is Seam.>Iโm driving a Toyota Corolla.>this is my husband Jevolla.>Iโm a meow.
>>531240073>enoughโฆ>i have enduredโฆ more than enough..>i ask you forgive me, dearest noelleโฆ
>people getting mad at characters because of the bullshit they've made up about them
>>531242369Trashy bros...
>>531241717Where is Rouxls x Elnina?
>>531242369You hurried Toby too much
>>531242636why doesn't she want to be called aunt?
>>531242226Kris/Dess is basically reserved for our little slice of [Hell] outside of some of the Kris/Knight stuff.
It may become more popular if she's actually saved and has some nicer moments with Kris.
>>531241970Also Toriel. Toriel was the actual first person of all who reached out to Susie and gave her a chance.
Of course, she's fucked it up now, but maybe she'll make up for it in the future.
>>531242532>The only thing that could make Noelle lose interest is if Susie stops putting on a tough act against everyone else.Susie's going to become nice but it won't dissuade Noelle because the girl needs to find love.
>>531242795I expect that she will
>>531242608if the characters didn't want me to think them evil, they shouldn't have withheld information from me! don't you see, absence of evidence of goodness is PROOF of their evilness!
Chapter 4 was rushed as shit and I know because Toby forgot to have a Darkner relaying Tori and Azzy's confessions.
>>531242719She wants to be called Hochi Mama instead
>>531242509I'm not gonna argue that her crush didn't have extremely over-the-top masochism attached that's gone with the wind since Susie's not actually mean but a lot of the real shit from her original attraction, like Susie being able to stand up to authority like it's no problem, even telling her mom off for her sake which I'd wager very few people in town would be able to do, is still there
>>531242517The prophecy just says that "the girl will learn the true meaning of love" (JP text), it doesnt necessarily mean that noelle's fate is to fuck susie
>>531242205The sanctuary is an illusion too, all dark worlds are, it's just that this illusion includes cool glowing crystals of what irl is probably the badly written page of a book
The illusions of the dark world don't come out of nowhere, they are always based on actual stuff
>>531241708>Noelle states the reason she likes susie is because susie is "Nice mean">susie likes noelle because ????????????>Susie is either a giant, irredeemable bitch, or a complete pushover with nothing in between>The transition between these two states of being happens literally within a day, and entirely without noelle knowing or experiencing either side of that>The relationship between susie and noelle spans two whole conversations, with both of them hiding huge parts of themselves to try and impress the other>Literally the only thing that connects them is a handful of shared interests in horror films>"O M G!!!1! This means noelle likes the REAL susie!"Kill yourself
Susie allows herself to be vulnerable with Kris at the diner because kris proves to her that he's dependable in a crunch, good at flirting and cares about her.
Susie is not a person who is just outright vulnerable to everyone she meets from the moment she meets them.
Like, holy shit dumbass imagine I saw you hugging your mum and concluded that you, as a person, just "liked hugs".
>>531241970That's dumb, but on its own I don't think it's a problem. The problem is that even if noelle gets lucky the fantasy she has of susie isn't real and isn't complete.
Which is pretty typical for teenage relationships, but I feel like a lot of people just pretend she's seen everything the players have seen.
>>531242517My one cope about all this is that the fact Susie and Noelle's relationship is so ridiculously forced is actually really a prophecy thing and there's supposed to be a sinister vibe to it later.
>>531242351>top tier design only ever shown as a high quality mugshot, a really cheap looking plushie, and an MS Paint doodleyou love to see it
wow frisk why do you get to have two cool, sexy water characters
>>531242864What confessions?
>>531239835Look man, I don't even mind Noelle crushing over Susie. It's fine AS LONG Susie remains dense as fuck about the whole ordeal. If Susie consciously reciprocates Noelle feelings, her gremlin side will take a massive hit, which is basically a character death
>>531242306>Kris held his breath. >His heartbeat quickened.>His HIPS now move faster.
The only doe Kris is willing to fuck is Dess
And she's gone...
>>531242369Toby got bored, we should be thankful it hasn't been cancelled but also butthurt we had to pay for half a game
>>531243116I almost wish he'd cancel it so I could make my own ending
>>531243061this word for word but it's starwalker instead of asriel
>>531243051Doe inside me...
>>531243009Toriel asking for forgiveness for being a degenerate alcoholic
>>531241972the Bearded Dragon, no? But that's a beard made of spines.
>>531242881Yeah, Noelle gets what she wants without having to work for it. Chapter 2's plot is all about Noelle and by tagging along with Kris for one segment and boss fight she gets rewarded with a ferris wheel ride with her crush and saves the day by yelling at Queen for a little bit. It's fucking Gravity Falls all over again.
>>531242369>the mikes aren't even on heremike...
>>531243261> It's fucking Gravity Falls all over again.I mean, just remember the target audience for deltarune
Do you think Susie's recent impression of Toriel is going to make her side with Asgore if a conflict does break out during the festival of Asgore seeing Toriel with Sans?
>>531243053Normal words, but a deer girl!
>>531242936>I feel like a lot of people just pretend she's seen everything the players have seen.The fact so many fanartists seem to add Noelle, but not Berdly, to pictures meant to be about the Fun Gang as if she's part of it makes me think this playerbase for some bizarre reason has just completely forgotten that Noelle was just a minor character that got a one off invitation to a single chapter's dark world. She doesn't know 90% of what's going on, barely remembers 5%, and the remaining 5% is her just kinda being in the way of actually important stuff.
Plus an AU where she's more relevant but also purposefully keeps her away from everyone else in it, so she's even more explicitly not a Fun Gang member.
>>531243338Toby Fox is the target audience for Deltarune. Everyone else is secondary to making his dream game.
>>531243256did they specify the kind of beard? i feel like his dark world design will be a chimera of lizard features
>>531242369If you're counting Mauswheel and fucking werewire then you have to count the roaring fucking knight and shuttah for ch. 3
For the guys arguing that Kris is innocent and a good boy...
Remember that he wants to unleash these abominations on everyone.
>>531243414Noelle has broly ahh hair
>>531243261>rich brat gets what she wants without working for itToby Fox is based?
>>531243301Wow, what a nice theory
>>531243368Honestly I've been thinking Toriel needs a stern talking to since early Undertale, so I hope so.
>>531243443i genuinely believe more artists should do this and not give a fuck. because doing it any other way would be selling out
>>531243368Susie has a bad habit of latching on to the first thing that's nice to her so I can see her getting attached to Asgore over Toriel and then when shit goes bad she can have yet another adult to be disappointed by for not living up to her expectations
>>531242369>no mike(s)Disingenuous
>>531243484In that case, that might be pretty cool.
>>531243443>censors his game after one day because the target audience whined
>>531243501Mauswheel and Werewerewire are both unique encounters, by your logic Tasque Manager shouldnโt be there either. Shuttah appears as a normal enemy after the second board and the Knight isnโt a darkner.
>>531243505Most of Kris' actions don't fit in with someone who wants to destroy the world so I'm just not gonna pass judgement until I know why the fuck are they working with the Knight and with what goal.
Also if Kris just wants to unleash the Titans, that was the perfect moment to backstab Susie and Ralsei and win the whole game and they didn't.
>>531243529That's The Reference . . . Anon
>>531243563>theoryshe turns Dess into a black thing and then Kris kills her
I will parasitize Kris. I will use his body to grow another soul. It will remain within him, too small to remove, until it is large enough to move about independently. I will then force Kris to strip and restrain his hands to his side against his will. I will force him to endure wave after wave of mind-numbing bliss without release. I will continue this until he is on the brink of sanity, so far lost to the world that his vision is nothing but a slur of white stars against the cosmic black of his mind and he cannot form a coherent thought... Only then, I will grant him mercy. I will grant him release so powerful that the new soul within him is shot out all at once, along with every bit of his seed. He will be coated in a mix of viscous red and white; Our combined essence. And amidst the aftermath of it all, the result of our union awaits.
>>531243724hypocritical
human, even
>>531243414Her experience of chapter 2 was literally just:
>getting captured>bonding time with kris>standing on a button while the fun gang rode some teacups>getting captured>sitting in her room>ferris wheel with susie>getting captured>"if you open a dark fountain, everyone will die"That's it. That's her entire exposure to the fun gang and she forgot most of it.
She has literally a minute's worth of interaction with susie.
In chapter 4 it's literally just the house scene. She doesn't even talk to susie before then except when susie asks to come over
>>531243061I really hope Azzy is so fucking obnoxious that he would start annoying the shit out of Sans himself
>>531243753Well, why would kris keep working with the knight even after ralsei has already revealed what happens in the roaring??
>>531243602castle town encounter
>>531243414Concept art file from 2014 titled "THE FUN GANG"
>>531243505Reminder that the Knightspircacy group is more complicated then just wanting to cause the roaring since they have demonstrated they could do so at any time but only choose to open dark fountains they know will eventually be sealed by the fun gang.
>>531243827Dess, why are you so fucking weird?
>>531242898that's my point, the prophecy messages break what we thought we knew, I don't think it's a book since we see book darkners, it's actually taking truths and displaying them, a save point talks about them as always being in your vision, no matter where or how you look. Ralsei reiterates that even if you shatter it, it will reappear again
we're right back to "how do dark worlds work" because whatever ralsei says in ch 3 goes out the window
>don't come out of nowhere, they are always based on actual stuffthis is where i agree with another anon and say that includes ideas, visions and concepts, and where I think it IS pulling some greater truth, Platonic Forms/Truths if we had to name it
>>531242542Rudy or Asriel
>>531243765Oh sorry, I didn't realise this was Toby
>>531243687This is an image
>>531243505I know that. Toby kinda forgot that the Titans are dangerous.
>>531243753They fit.
Actively ignoring the warnings, creating a Dark Fountain so the Knight can come in undetected.
Sabotaging (Me) in public to prevent me from getting the Shelter codes.
>>531243505>>531243753Yeah we just don't have all the information yet.
Reason probably being that we need a few more chapters of context to truly understand.
kris owes me his body and noelle owes my body sex
>>531243956I am not December. I am (you).
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>>531243414>Noelle was just a minor character that got a one off invitation to a single chapter's dark world.How on God's green Earth is anyone still coping that Noelle isn't a main character in 2025
>>531243879Im only human after all
>>531239630this all works if the microphone was borrowed from Shyra too
>>531243883Only toby could canonize a main character ship with a character she barely interacts with on-screen and still has people supporting it
>>531243924Ponytail Susie, My beloved. This would have been so cool.
>>531243414Chapter 5 will be a Noelle-heavy chapter. Judging by the end of chapter 4, she'll probably have more screen time than Susie.
I will send Kris to Hawaii, let him find true love and be happy, force him to murder his love, watch him go insane after being treated with experimental shock therapy, and then drown at sea.
>>531243883She didn't forget, she just assumes it was a dream.
>>531243913I don't know. Probably for reasons related to Ralsei constantly distracting us to talk to Kris alone, Ralsei constantly withholding information despite Susie actually getting pissed off, or how after the Knight fight even if you get the backstab animations, Ralsei still defers to Kris on what must happen and doesn't act like he just got betrayed.
>>531243924Considering Susie's lines about water and another school show up at the Holiday house, I think it might've been one of the first scenes Toby wrote/envisioned, and the awkwardness and mischaracterization is because it was written with an earlier version of the characters in mind.
Why will Susie never acknowledge the rightmost gravestone any time you go into the graveyard with her?
>>531243913Because causing the roaring clearly isn't their fucking goal? Our current evidence points to the Knight/Kris/Carol are following the prophecy while Susie has just decided she doesn't want to follow it. That's why when Susie tells Kris they aren't gonna let the prohecy happen Kris is reminded over the phone of their "promise" which should naturally be in conflict with joining Susie in subverting the prophecy.
>>531231529Jockington will literally enter the dark world at 5:00, and his dark world ouftit will have the beard
>>531244242Every person on /utg/ that deeply hates a character is delusional and a pathological liar
This goes for every hater of every character for both Undertale and Deltarune
Ramb will do ANYTHING for Kris.
ANYTHING to make him happy.
>>531243414How is this autist still malding about Berdly not shitting up this fanart. Berdly is not in the Lancer Fan Club, Noelle is
>>531244593kid named anything:
>>531244056Queen is not driving though.
>>531244242>How on God's green Earth is anyone still coping that Noelle isn't a main character in 2025Because I play the actual damn game and
>>531243883 gave a good summary. Noelle has barely been in the actual game. Rouxls fucking Kaard has more of a presence than she does.
I'm not saying she might not EVENTUALLY be part of the Fun Gang, but she sure as fuck isn't right now.
>>531244374berdly seems to immediately forget his crush on susie
>>531242369what exactly is a unique darkner to you? I see a few enemy encounters there but not all of them
Susie and Noelle finally get together but quickly experience lesbian bed death and drift apart quickly
>>531244729She's literally a party member. Kill yourself.
>>531244056>Toriel ran over Dess while hammered>She divorced Asgore because he kept getting on the case>She asked Carol to keep him busy so he doesn't poke around
>>531244397When do you think Toby decided on canon Cringelle? I swear he retcond between chapters Noelle solely due to Wiwiposting and that one piece of fanart
>>531244642>this autistThis is literally the first time I talk about this so I don't know who you're talking about.
>Berdly is not in the Lancer Fan Club, Noelle is...no? Neither of them are, have you even played the game? Noelle doesn't even know Ralsei or Lancer. Either the piece of fanart in question is showing just the lightners that have entered a dark world and helped the Fun Gang, in which case Berdly should also be there, or it's showing the Fun Gang, in which case Noelle shouldn't be there.
>>531244368maybe in the weird route
>>531244393Susie running back out of Noelle's room near the end of chapter 2 on the weird route and Ralsei's response that "we" were supposed to do something and his knowledge of mechanics including what equipment characters are supposed to wear and the battle UI suggests that what he knows isn't necessarily the prophecy but rather the events and mechanics of Deltarune, which in turn encompass the prophecy.
>>531244681I CAN DO ANYTHING
>>531243883Bonding time with Kris was half of the chapter and the best part of it. The Ralsei Tunnel of love sucked ass.
>>531244593Would he even be mine if I threatened krisโ life if he wonโt?
>>531244872she's only ever a party member with kris
>>531242936I said that she's "getting to know her," not that she knows Susie inside out or even that they're in a relationship because they're really not
Susie's not being as open or vulnerable with Noelle as with Kris, since neither of them know the other that well, but she is cool, she is friendly and she is sweet, these are all parts of her real personality, the real Susie, that people couldn't see because of the front she'd been putting up, which Noelle hadn't seen either but which she likes about her after getting to know her
You're the one that's demanding Susie to be either a vicious psycho-bully that kills small animals for fun (a face for people besides Kris) or the most open-hearted and vulnerable little girl of all time (a face for Kris and Kris alone, the only person she's allowed to be friends with apparently) with no in-between, like she's not allowed to be a normal person in any capacity
>>531244908It's not canon. You can't be believe in it if I don't want to. Whatever THAT is, it is not love. Noelle is just confused. The bhc will fix her.
>>531245081>The Ralsei Tunnel of love sucked assI liked the Roulxs minigame.
Ralsei putting me on the spot with another
>Do you love Ralsei or do you wish Ralsei would get eaten alive by piranhas?dilemma wasn't fun. Specially considering the wording of Ralsei saying he likes Kris being Kris when IT'S NOT KRIS.
my ancestors are so badasd
>>531244056Remember all those big highfalutin theories before chapters 3&4? Then the chapters dropped.
Noelle was playable for one section and somehow Gersonโs two semi-playable sections are way more fun
>>531244242According to this genny, Noelle is simultaneously not a main character, and also a creator pet Mary sue with too much screen time. Through the magic of cope
Dont forget: Ralsei loves (You), not Kris
>>531245282The whole thing with both types of philosophers seeing the previous ones as their ancestors is probably the most overt Homestuck reference in UTDR since Toby literally named an enemy Pyrope
>>531244872Can Berdly join too?
>>531245364Least someone does.
>>531242951yeah idk toby needs to hurry up
>>531245318Pranking Noelle was fun.
I've read quite a few KrisxNoelle fics so far and something i've noticed is basically all of them have had to completely sideline Susie to the point where she's not even a main character anymore. It's like Krisselle is inherently impossible if Susie is part of the equation.
>>531245441Well he's gotten way better at Homestuck references because Pyrope sucks ass
Ralsei but heโs voice acted like a Xenoblade character
>>531244275It's funny, since player isn't even involved. That's why it's so hard to have a non-player romance in games.
All Suselle shit has just been cutscenes or "pseudo"-cutscenes like Holiday mansion.
Maybe thats why it feels forced. Not because it's lesbian. Not because it's OCC. But because it just happens whether player likes it or not.
>>531245465yeah, but we gotta kick the fat cat
>>531245564It's not impossible, it just means that Susie gets sidelined, which is sad so people don't want to write about it
>>531245025Berdly Is Technically A Lancer Fan Club/Fuck Squad/Fun Gang Member
Atleast Lancer Thinks Of Making Him A Track Jacket (Albeit Of A Different Colour)
>>531245638Theres the weird route, so...
>>531245564Susie's thing is that she likes both Kris and Noelle and seems deeply afraid of getting ditched by them during Weird Route so it's best to just sweep her under the rug unless you have a really good idea for how to resolve the issue
>>531245638This can't help. Nobody entirely likes sitting and watching a long cutscene.
>>531245564Susie is at Social Link 7 as Chapter 4. Love confessions happen at 8 and beyond. Lack of screentime has put Noelle ships into limbo.
>>531245638It's really hard to write a relationship between two characters where neither is the player and not make it look like the dev making dolls kiss.
>>531244056Here's my schizo take on this:
Asgore lost his job as the chief of police because he took the blame for Toriel killing Dess. His position allowed him to get away with it with relatively little consequences, where as Toriel would have been sent to jail, making Kris and Asriel lose their mother.
AND
Toriel was so blackout drunk even she does not remember driving over Dess and she thinks Asgore did it, or she does know and is upset with Asgore for taking the blame.
>>531245339don't forget she's also literally andrew and/or byron hussie
>>531243724From what I know of here, it was a change made BEFORE backlash could be made. If going the cowardice angle (what I believe is the case, most likely reasoning), then its that Toby's Team was afraid of the audience whining and changed the scene before they (collectively) had a chance.
>Starting from Suselle bad and figuring out reasons for why after the fact so hard we've hit "Noelle isn't a main character"
Welcome back 2018 who else is excited for Deltarune the full game maybe Sans will do something cool eh
Chapter 7โs secret boss will just be Dan Hentschel. not even a character played or inspired by him, just him.
>>531245619if only ralsei and ramb were british it'd be funny
>>531245638That's it. That is what makes it suck. Besides the homo shit, of course, that it happens regardless of your control.
To paraphrase...myself, it's like being strapped to the cuck chair until you like it.
>>531245151>she is cool, she is friendly and she is sweetLiterally only to people she's already familiar with
Give me literally a single example of her being like this with someone she doesn't already know besides noelle
>that people couldn't see because of the front she'd been putting upIt wasn't a fucking front. She tries to destroy the piano when no one can see her in her story to kris dumbass. She was a jealous person who felt like she didn't have any value and who got some kind of sadistic pleasure out of scaring other people.
By the time she gets to noelle's house she's had 3 chapters worth of character development, but also she's acting totally OOC because of the crush the writers magically decided to give her to force their crack ship.
>You're the one that's demanding Susie to be either a vicious psycho-bully that kills small animals for fun (a face for people besides Kris) or the most open-hearted and vulnerable little girl of all time (a face for Kris and Kris alone, the only person she's allowed to be friends with apparently) with no in-between, like she's not allowed to be a normal person in any capacityMother fucker we have spent 4 chapters with this girl. There's a huge difference between saying "characters aren't one thing" and "characters can be anything".
Susie is clearly standoffish and confrontational - up to and including chapter 4. Just as a single example she tells gerson to get lost until she realises she has to look after him and then takes half of the first sanctuary to open up to him at all - and this all happens after the holiday house segment.
Eventually she warms up to him, in a way that almost exactly mirrors how she built her relationship initially with kris and ralsei. That same process never happens with noelle.
That's what I'm complaining about, dumbass. If you have a character act a certain way and tell us that they feel a certain way if that changes it should be for a better reason than because "I think deer-lizard sex is hot"
>>531245638No, it definitely is OOC.
The cutscenes thing is just also another good reason. It's also probably because to actually get the full information out of those scenes, you have to actually, purposefully stop moving or doing anything. If you don't care for Suselle, but you still don't want to miss out on potentially important information (which there is), you have to actually just let go of the controls entirely for several minutes, several times in a row.
>>531245941She's not too important, not too unimportant.
Am I the only one who thinks that no one ran over Dess?
>>531239324Probably as a thing on gumroad yea :)
>>531245564Everybody wants the lizard
Are there any homophobic characters in this game?
why did the knight cross its arms and turn its back to you after cutting off tennas arms
>>531245947Most likely he slapped his forehead and suddenly remembered what a red rose signifies to anyone without brain damage
>>531246058Ralsei says chuffed once and thatโs the only evidence, Ramb is 100% british
>>531246024>Ignoring the previous threads where people start with a vague discomfort the second they saw the scenes and then linearly figure out why they feel that way.
Reminder that the player's pronouns are up to Kris's interpretation.
>>531246024>Noelle isn't part of the Fun Gang, she never joined and the one time she got to participate it wasn't in the full party, just with Kris.>OH SO SHE'S NOT A MAIN CHARACTER ACCORDING TO YOU, HUH? HUH??
>>531245564That sounds sad, but make sense since every time theyre all together the game either splits them up or Noelle can only focus on Susie.
>>531246216Yes, Tenna is very good for that
>>531246135it had no reason to do that, but did because it thought it would look cool. this is what the kids call โaura farmingโ
I will not fall for smoking Tenna propaganda. He would NEVER pick up such a disgusting habit.
>>531245564I think kriselle with susie MC works if you sideline ralsei, just have kris, susie and noelle travel together and theyll work well
>>531246219Tobys not an idiot. He wanted that to be implied in his secret "evil" route
>>531246131I don't think homophobia is a thing at all in this setting.
Despite what Suselle fans would like to claim regarding Carol.
>>531246228I mean, why not? Like a slightly older Asriel.
>>531246435All I hope is that Rudy ends up having more to his character than "he dies and makes Noelle sad"
>>531246076I don't think it's altogether implausible Susie would behave more carefully toward a clearly delicate and pretty girl with a dying father. Aren't you a different person with different people?
>>531246128Can she survive?
what if monster kid was in a wheelchair and he went to a dark world and instead of the wheelchair turning into a hoverchair or something it just stayed as a normal wheelchair
that would be quite the laugh i think
The weird route is actually the weyward route
>>531246291Since the player is a red heart, this is actually true.
>>531246432the only inanimate object darkner that should smoke is a boulder, it keeps him happy in spite of his simple existence.
>>531246291Am I a pretty girl?
>>531246480Give it time. Toby loves us deep down.
>>531246128how does she do it?
Mad
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Jesus, some people have a real hard-on for hating characters. I can't imagine being that way with a game or series that I supposedly enjoy.
>>531245495Field of dick and piss (hopes and dreams)
>>531246560I basically just turn into a featureless mirror of whoever I'm talking to since I'm a giant autist so I'm probably not the best referent
Most people vary, but still within a spectrum of plausible expressions of themselves. Susie might be less rough, but she wouldn't ever act like ralsei
>>531246515Asrielโs british????????
>>531246636the weird route is actually the wayforward route, youโll be rewarded with obnoxious writing repetitive gameplay and titties.
>>531246219>>531246471He 100% knew what it would represent and it was his artistic vision to use the flower animation
He ALSO probably knew the backlash it would cause, so he released it as it was intended and as soon as the fags started complaining he switched it (like he always planned to) so now both flowerfags and twitterfags are satisfied
>>531246758>you can't criticize or dislike anything about game or series you like
>>531246291Let the fucker think what he wants, I don't care. He's not in charge.
>>531246076Yeah chapter 1 literally outlines this when Susie becomes the bad guy with Lancer for the second forest segment. There's stuff like the bake sale where they just buy a pastry but also the fanning in the chairs before the maze. In the boss fight, Kris and Ralsei either recruit Lancer or beat him up, and it's Susie's choice to end the fight. It takes her beating up Lancer pretty badly before she confesses her true feelings about the matter.
>>531246560If Susie thought Rudy was dying she'd try to avoid talking about it and fail.
>>531246432Unless spamton gets him to smoke
>>531246560Why doesn't Susie initially behave more carefully towards an elderly citizen lost in a dark world and instead tries to ditch him the moment he annoys her in the slightest?
>>531228137Why are they so cute together?
Deltarune gacha pull: rouxls karrd but his light world equivalent got used to wipe asgore's ass so now he's covered in shit
>>531246585I love when artists draw Susie more masc looking than feminine, long haired butch women are beautiful
>>531246847Yes. Like his parents.
>>531246432I think it fits him and it's hot
>>531246994She doesn't have a crush on the old man anon...
>>531246219Toby + his team + his playtesters must've known about the red rose physical rape interpretation. I refuse to believe someone who's as much a nerd as Toby didn't know it when the animation was made and stayed for potentially months during playtesting, let alone his team + playtesters adding that many more eyes/brains onto the scene.
>>531246863>start complainingThat's the thing. From what I heard of anons, it was so soon that the fanbase couldn't get to it.
>This being plannedI could get it if there wasn't the placeholder red sprite take of the scene. That tells me they just wanted it to not be the rose as quickly as possible even if it tanks the scene so much.
>>531247094No.... they are really not
>>531241806Kris makes anyone who fucks his mom disappear.
>>531246953What a bad influence.
>>531247153So your argument wasn't that it's because Noelle is delicate and has a dying father?
>>531245638This is completely wrong and reeks of a copium leak
People don't find Suselle mid because the player character isn't involved, it's mid because it's thin and not particularly compelling, and most of it leaning really heavily on the incorrect assumption that women = good writing
Noelle and Susie have like zero chemistry, and Noelle's one sided pining after what she thinks Susie is like comes off as pathetic and hack and would be regarded with complete contempt by most of the audience was not a wholesome chungus lesbian
>>531246994Unfortunately that one has the easy out of "Susie thought he was a darkner at first" and then the hard in of "she tries to act nice when thinking he's a lightner but gives up quickly and goes back to being a bit of a jerk until Gerson reflects her Rude Buster I mean misapprehensions back at her after the Jackenstein fight and writing down the melody."
>>531246228Ralsei also calls the elevator a lift, which is British
>>531247168Literal months is why it would get past playtest and other builds, you'd just get used to it and stop thinking about it
>>531246927You'll say that until Kris crawls out of your screen for you're snowgraves
>>531246432Tenna and Spamton 100% smoked anon. Spamton probably did coke too
>>531247202well they're not made for you so does it really matter what you think anon
>>531246432Based healthy lungs anon
>>531247094That's impossible, all butch women require buzz cuts
>>531247392If you can't beat up an angsty tween with a knife you need to exercise more.
>>531246678*Dresses you in a tutu*
The prettiest.
>>531246758This mindset is what caused Homestuck's ending. The ultimate proof.
>>531247557an angsty tween with a SWORD
hehe, checkmate
>>531243053Would you trust this girl?
>>531247392I'm not scared of some teenager.
>>531247627light world, bitch
>>531244056>>531244718>>531245928Toriel got so drunk that she made Kris drive the van without a license, and Kris' hand slipped off of the steering wheel causing them to hit Dess, then Toriel didn't even remember what happened and Asgore took the blame, this ties everything together
>>531246847>You remember playing Mighty Switch Force and Mighty Flip Champs all day just to see cartoon tity
>>531247094That's not masc that's tough femme. This misuse of definitions has been really bad for people's understandings.
>>531247248That's a pretty limp gotcha if it's supposed to be one. Noelle's a pretty, feminine fragile creature Susie has a crush on. This has activate Susie's secret save the princess instinct. Just like every single piece of media about a bad boy in a leather jacket and the girl he likes and she's the only one who ever sees his gentle side and cliche blah.
>>531247853>This has activate Susie's secret save the princess instinctKris is the princess, he's the only one that can equip the princess ribbon.
>>531247168Honestly it was likely not the fans complaining that matters but getting an actual call from corporate or the ESRB. Omori is rated M for a reason, and every fucking piece of media with disturbing elements needs a warning with a hotline in it.
>>531247853I think this all boils down to being Toby's fetish which makes him write worse when it's being shown.
Dess wouldve killed Lancer
>>531246076>Literally only to people she's already familiar withShe's already familiar with Noelle after chapter 2 even if Noelle thought it was a dream, she's nice to Berdly at the hospital too until he starts ribbing at her and would probably do the same at the library if he didn't get a word in first with his tsundere routine that she doesn't understand
Furthermore in the very first chapter she's known Lancer for all of five seconds and starts hanging out with him after getting complimented once so making fast friends is NOT in any way an unusual character trait for her, conversely Gerson does a lot of things that annoy her as a part of his wise mentor schtick
Consider this: What possible reason would she have not to have a normal conversation with Noelle, who she's familiar with, when sitting in the same room waiting for Kris? She does the same thing with Toriel after Kris bails to the bathroom so I don't think it's out of character at all, what were you expecting her to do?
>>531248035This. The man just wants his butch girl x nerdy girl yuri
>>531247853You said Susie behaves different towards Noelle just because she's delicate and has a dying father. I pointed out she wasn't different towards Gerson who also looks delicate and about to die at first. Then you suddenly pulled it's because Susie has a crush on Noelle and basically kicked the goalpost entirely offscreen. Which is also a redundant point when we're discussing why Susie's crush makes no sense and it just becomes "Susie acts differently towards Noelle because she has a crush and she has a crush because she acts differently towards Noelle".
It's not a "gotcha" to point out you're just pulling every dirty trick possible to argue with.
>>531246076Maybe Gerson should have given her a pencil to eat
>>531246216Tenna is gonna have a lot of fun with his cocksleve
>>531248238I'm not reading that.
Thread over, I accept your concession
>>531247853Its bad writing. A gay biker bad boy wouldnt act like that for another guy, why would a lesbo
Are you guys finished arguing over shipping yet?
>>531248271I predict the next argument will be "teens are dumb and can get dumb crushes for no reason, so you must treat this work of fiction as if it was the meaningless real world"
>>531248685shipping arguments will persist long after humanity's gone
>>531248031>CorporateWhich is why Toby's Team made emergency patches for games having content Nintendo/Sony didn't condone (and never knew, Sony I could get but highly doubt Nintendo) instead of having it go through standard patching policy (no, I refuse to think they don't have an emergency procedure in case for something like this). Wait? What's that? The game was only emergency patched on Steam? Perhaps the corporate breathing down on the team's neck was none other than Toby's very own producer? (I don't think so but funny joke?)
>ESRBIf it was from on high, the game would've been pulled from store fronts until it got patched. This isn't something they fuck around on, ask Rockstar.
>>531247202female hands typed this
>>531248252But like, cmon. He didn't have to ruin a good house rummaging gag just for an Alphyne n2. We could have had Kris distracting Noelle by desperately acting like a dog while Susie digs through the trash in the background. Instead, we got a third row seat to a tinder date
>>531248839Weird Route is a secret route and ESRB, corporate testers do not look up guides and explore every single little thing. They do not datamine games either, its 100% likely they never spotted it, and even if they did its innocuous enough that it could get overlooked but then become an issue once it goes viral. The ESRB only pulls games with AO content because AO games cant be sold in stores. If an E game had T content that isnt enough to take action
>>531249220Why cant games with AO content be sold?
>>531249632Iirc it's legal law about pornographic content that it can't be accessible to people under 18 easily, or something about there. Reason that XXX Movies had to have a dedicated store rather than a section at Blockbusters or something.
>>531248746That could be an argument, crushes can happen for no reason, but if that was to be the case with Susie towards Noelle, then it should have been fucking demonstrated at the start of the game. Because Susie in no fucking way acts like she thinks of Noelle in particular at all or in any way at all until Noelle is acting out her crush on her, and then suddenly Susie is acting like she's crushing back. At that point it's not Susie being a teen, it's just an asspull.
I still think the rose being removed was Toby intended it to be have the VIBES of rape but not be an actual rape scene. Some people thought it was literal rape, as in, we literally took Noelle's virginity, Toby removes the flower as a, "No dude it is a metaphor you didn't literally rape her"
Simple.
>>531248271>I pointed out she wasn't different towards Gerson who also looks delicate and about to die at first.Gerson is not even close to dying by his mannerisms. If this were true she wouldn't have fought him.
>>531247853Susie wouldn't have a "save the princess" instinct, she's a girl. Susie also doesn't have a crush on her, she likes her like she likes everyone, going by the tea.
>Just like every single piece of media about a bad boy in a leather jacket and the girl he likes and she's the only one who ever sees his gentle side and cliche blah.Normally the badboy has raw sex appeal and the girl's coming on to him. He's also dangerous and mysterious as that's the normal trope. That trope doesn't work here when Kris is the one interacting with her first and doing all the interacting with (us), what you're referring to is the standard female love interest archetype, if there's more than one it winds up being a "two potential lovers fight over the prize" like twilight. It only works this way if Susie is the one being fought over, and that still leaves Noelle out since she's being a cunt to and about Kris, somebody Susie cares about and who is the first person to actually go the extra mile for.
As it stands, it'd be bad writing to just send her off with Noelle and say "well that's how the tropes are" because they're not. And if you want to lie and work the IRL angle, it also doesn't work because you need to be the one to make the moves and neither of them do, fucking Berdly makes more of a move.
>>531245495I think pink and gold represent hopes and dreams but they're forgotten ones
>>531249979Uhh, but Kris did rape her
>>531242936To be honest the homolust seems to be pretty one sided
susie is dumb and just sees noelle as another cool friend, and really really wishes she could join them for more dark world adventures but has to keep it all a secret
she's way closer to Kris in her relationship
meanwhile noelle desperately craves the lizard taking a bite out of her crotch because scary things make her wet
ultimately I think their relationship is doomed
>>531249979I think that's what Toby wanted you to think while in reality he wanted there to be lots of doerape art and made sure everyone got the message before changing it.
>>531240073Ahh, may darkness take the world
MAY DARKNESS TAKE THE WORLD