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Countdown doko?

How do we KILL Ward Haven?

I'll laugh if it becomes a T3 deck

>>531279092 (OP)
Fucker, did you not see my post with the fixed text?
>>531278303
>>531278303
>>531278303

>Winners
Haven
Rune
Portal
Sword

>LOSERS (bigly)
Abyss
Dragon
Forest

>(embed) [Open] [Embed] [Open]
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You keep laughing now.

>>531279264
You player ramp dragon, rune, or haven. No other class has a real answer. Abyss would have one if their answer wasn't 9pp

>>531279438
>Rune
did i miss a card?, the dirt lego is garbage

>>531279413
No I was eating m&m cookies and wanted a Daria thread I didn’t see it

>>531279438
Eh, too early to say Sword won yet, imho. Everything else is correct.

>>531279438
>Winners
>sword
Have you seen sword leggos?

>>531279528
their new gold 3/3 3pp ward?

>>531279528
It got one card that fixes every single problem rune has at the same time and there's an incredibly high chance they get another broken legendary.

They could have gotten 0 cards and they would have won because aggro and roach are fucking dead.

>>531279438
>rune
huh? 2 bad cards and one okay card

>>531279438
how did sword win when the devs just gave the environment everything needed to give it a shitty time lmao

set 3 will fix abyss

>my opponent play Aether
>play cum clalice
>another Aether
>another cum chalice
Or vice versa. I don't think haven mirror is going to be miserable, you just cum on each other and the side that can make their Aether board stick just win, it's not gonna take long at all

When they are going to reveal the last rune gold and legendary? Just to know to see if it can be more consistent and less reliant on highrolling because now i get such tilting hands playing spellboost
>have to coin at turn5 a 3 aoe william and evo it to trade even
Like dude

These are the next three tier 1 crafts.

>>531270389
>Karula, Mind Arts
>6pp 5/4 Legendary Portalcraft Follower
>Fanfare: Select an Artifact follower in your hand that costs 5 or less and summon an exact copy of it.
>Super-Evolve: Give this follower "Can attack 2 times per turn."

Brainlets will think Karula = Free Allouette
Intellectuals will think Karula = Better Sylvia (2 kills with sevo and 3 heals while putting a 3/5 unit on board)

>>531279848
yeah attack twice on 8/7 sevo is cracked with 0 recoil banestomping

>>531279827
No...

>Abyss gold was so dogshit everyone just ignored it

>>531279956

>>531279651
It fix fucking nothing
You play that on t3 or it's a brick but you need to card draw on turn 3 or you are going to run out of cards to play when you sit on 10 cost and nothing to spellboost
>but evo tutor kuon
You are going to tutor that miranda william or flame destroyer bricking your hand because you didn't play turn 3 draw2 and now you can't play or spellboost shit

everyday i play this game the more i wish some skinheads liine up and curbstomp all Rune players

>>531279438
What's sword good matchup? They instantlose to portal and haven, also that sword pro who went 0-10 against rune and now rune is way stronger while sword stays the same.
VS forest it's 50/50 and it's a bit better than abyss, dragon is shit but everyone shits on dragon anyway no need to mention that

These threads are really showing me that a lot of people here do not play the game.

>>531280076
Sword does not instalose to Haven you retard

>>531280008
My prey on the ladder has become my predator...

abyssbros we fucking lost

Dollfuckers bro. How our flowchart going to look like with Zwei and 2sexdolls spell?

>>531280020
>You are going to tutor that miranda
if you replace her with the spell that summons a golem it won't happen

>>531280020
It gives them a wall that hard counters Otohime unless they get the discard guy to bump their damage up to 3. It gives them multiple spellboosts against decks with weak followers. If your hand is completely bricked it gives you an emergency gamble to pull Grea and Kuon.

Rune already had barely any flaws and they just patched up every single problem it could potentially have.

In a game where everyone else loses if they have a shit hand Rune can now gamble 4 times between Owen and Dclimb to just hope they automatically win the game.

>gold is dogshit
>puppet cards are dogshit
artifactbros we only need to craft 2 karula

>>531280183
Miranda is so much better though
Wuthout you are guarantee auto lose t5 with no A&G

>>531280159
emergency buffs are coming, do not despair

>>531279438
stfu downplayer, Abyss won
Forest won
Dragon won

>>531280128
not right now but aggro sword will get stopped by wards, it can sometimes get past 1 but not 3, and the new ward haven puts more bodies with bigger stats out than midrange sword. Jeno can't clear an aether board even with a super evo on his 1/1 knight

>>531279798
I wonder if Storm Haven just beats Ward Haven since you still get access to Jeanne and Chalice but you can push for damage

>New cards out
>Abyss is even worse than before
The absolute state of Abysskeks

>>531280103
reply to 5 people who dont play the game

>>531280261
>otohime
Get out of topaz dude
No one fucking play face dragon or anything that gives a fuck to wards

>>531280103
waah waah wahh
didn't read, tranny

>>531280076
Sword is even or at worst slightly disfavored against AF Portal (straight up favored vs Puppets) and Haven. Hell its matchup vs Haven might actually improve since Ward Haven will be hesitant to run cum chalice due to board space and wanting their own board to stick.

Rune is just a boosted bitch deck, every class struggles vs spellboost because it's completely broken. Sword isn't unique in this.

It's actually insane that it's going to take one launch set and TWO expansions just to match the amount of cards SV1 had on launch
no wonder the game got stale so damn quickly when the classes are so incomplete

>>531280453
>>531280459

i drew my meta prediction

Amazing thread, off to a great start!

>cut Kagemitsu
Bros....

Remember that we still havent gotten the bronze and silver cards yet. Portal and Rune are going to get even better while everyone else gets shit that does nothing.

>>531280736
spellboost is so complete that a 30/30 with removal has split opinions on whether it's worth including

>>531280802
too much soul

>>531280736
Eh, SV1 had a lot of unplayable Take 2 chaff in the base set. It also had a whole bunch of experimental cards that just never really saw any play beyond the first couple of weeks if that.

A lot of really cute stuff like pic related that even on release was too overcosted to see play.

>>531279971
there was an abyss gold? post it

>>531280370
Wilbert's a nesting doll, so he's going to be a massive pain to get over. Everything else would be business as usual, except they'd have an excuse to use Soulcure Sissy and ward would probably eventually just gas storm out.

>>531280370
I would imagine Ward and Storm would have enough overlap in how they build that it'll look like a mirror. You would have to be nuts to run pure ward with no storm cards.

>>531279971
There was plenty of discussion on it last thread, it just got overshadowed by the portal lego. It seems decent if a bit high-roll. Potentially very high burst damage with it pretty early in the game though.

>A finals
>0-2
>got less rewards than those who are in B finals
wtf

Portal players deserve high value cards because their decks require incredibly complex and difficult decision making that other decks dont have to deal with.

Here is your new dragon legendary reveal LMFAO

>>531280370
You run big bird amulet into willbert and aether deck
Thats it
And big gryphon finisher also is part of ward haven
Lapis either remains 1of or 0

>>531281050
>>531281234
>Dragonchads dabbing on the 2 biggest cancers

I full rope every single turn I play against Portal, no need to thank me for my service. It's just the right thing to do.

>>531280802
swordbros... we didn't make it to the meta...

>>531281006
Like, look at this. It's diverse, sure, but come on.

>>531281347
>play chicken into this
wtf that’s broken

>>531280370
Pure ward will be terrible as fuck since it'll be relying on doing nothing on its turn while being target for mass removal. No rush means it'll be vulnerable unless you can outgrind your opponent.

>only rune lego left
>mokou
OMG... IT'S HER TIME

with ward haven youre going to want to run 9 or 12 2-3 cost wards for aether or she wont work. then you have your 4 legendary 3 ofs. then your staples and good cards. you dont have room for storm outside like odin

>>531281543
I'm sure the big storm ward bird makes it in

>the new hanakana is a 4pp razory claw
Abyssbros... I don't think I can take this anymore.

>>531281424
I'll full rope you back, it's no biggie

>>531281050
I fucking laugh'd

I miss playing Rune

>stalling for almost 20 turns just to do this
I have problem

>>531281543
I thought we were replacing Salefa for Agnes or Chalice (mirror tech).

>>531281506
you need to play this into chicken or else he deletes your entire deck

rune players = trans

>>531281234
>8 HP
>Decide to not heal with Sylvia

>>531281234
that has to be a misclick right

>>531281817
I think that portal guy rarely gets hit with genesis to the face.

my cock
grea's fat tits

simple as

>>531281797
That’s the joke…

my ass
grea's fat tail

simple ass

>>531281817
nobody sane bring genesis right now. it's forte + eyfa at best

>>531272609
Evolve 'mancer on t4
It gets her outside of priest/safera range and forces them to kill her.
>>531275125
There aren't things like it. Poe and card game releases are like crack.
>>531278053
>let pros figur-
Why are you playing a deckbuilding game if you refuse to build a deck?

Fairy Crystal Ritual
5pp
All Pixie followers gain +X/+0 for this turn. X equals the amount of pixie followers on the field

I am actually going fucking insane over this. Who the fuck at retardgames thought 4pp razory claw is a reasonable implementation of dark general??? Her VA is extremely popular and she was one of the most iconic SV1 blood cards, all of that making the card very popular as readily, and THIS is how they fucking handle her?!
I'm actually going insane. This game is designed by a fucking monkey.

FAIRIES WILL GET BANE

ITS A BRONZE/SILVER CARD

JIHAD ON HAVENKEKS

>proofs?
I made it up

>>531281024
Odin disagrees.

>>531282119
I wish it was designed by monkeys so we can have UNGA BUNGA all day instead of spellboost and artifact.

WHERE IS HOLY SABER

>>531282119
I'm starting to believe this game was designed by Rune/Blue player who got bullied hard by Blood/shadow/black chad and that chad stole his gf.

where is the black representativity in this game?

>>531282119
you get her body to play with you

Ward Haven is scary bros... They're just missing their wincon but all their cards flows well into each other. it feels like it's only time until they got some strong late game finisher

>>531282119
It's unbelievable how undertuned it is, I agree. It would be shit even without the downside and yet they seemed to feel it needed it lmao.

That new abyss card is fucking broken
lmao
holy shit

>Artifact now have multiple option to create copy for free (and also make them ward
swordkeks...

>>531282119
Post the card again.

>>531282119
Dark general is an iconic blood card? She wasn't used after starforged legends. I don't know if that counts as iconic.

>>531282428
Their win condition is making the board stick and playing Jeanne. If you dont have one of the three cards capable of dealing with Aethers board with she just snowballs the rest of the game.

>rodeo themed grand prix
>zero talisman reveals
>zero indication he'll even be useable next set

>>531282428
Their wincon is literally stall until big bird come out with 9/11 unevolve and kill your entire family

>>531280159
Bro, we're going to be saved by a bronze werewolf girl with rush that does something. TRUST THE PLAN.

>>531282471
4pp 1/3 storm
Fanfare: get +1/0 for every allied follower and deal 2 damage to your own face
Abyss has no board presence, so the only way you get followers for her is out of crypts
If you only have one crypt, she's 3 extra damage to the face at the cost of 2 damage to your face, aka a 4pp razory claw.
>>531282487
She was very iconic in early shadowverse and won popularity polls.

>>531282460
The ward is also immune to effect destruction. If you leave the 6 body alive, it super evolve and hit your face with 8 damage 2 times

>>531282119
>create dogshit card
>dogshit card also requires setup to have any value
>dogshit card ALSO hurts you

>they release ginsetsu implying they want abyss to last to turn 9
>they make cards that keep hurting you for shit tier effects

>this is the gold that was gonna fix abyss

>>531282526
The big dragon legendary literally makes Burnite worse.

Does the new fairy forest deck counter roach in anyway? It would be nice to destroy forest as forest. Or do I play ward haven just to fuck them over completely.

literally play cemetery amulet
aragavy shit and remove whenever u need
play storm general after cemetery and follower
evo 10+ dmg
cerb next turn

xddd

>>531282526
They just pick unpopular card and make them a free reward

How many days do I have to do the grand prix finals?

>>531282487
she was used in chronogenesis so boom

>>531282712
Only 1.

Another whore fed to my boi

>>531282621
Just use the chicken as Burnite fuel.

Can't people cheat knockout matches by having their friend in voice call spectating and telling opponent hand?

>>531280407
>Still no payoff for killing yourself

>>531282775
Nah, card game players are honourable

>>531282673
I would rather use the amulets with Cerberus for the buff than with a 4pp razory claw, you retarded monkey.

Will Rune get a way to give her storm?

>>531282775
Why would anyone do that?

>>531282889
ur not seeing what can be done
i think its one of the best revealed cards

u will see

>>531282891
Because sword is honest

Just found out how bad rendering sword is. 4 mana destroy 1 4/4 rush if evolve
Phildau 2 mana destroy 1 4/4 rush if evolve.

>>531282890
the new deprint will be dstorm

>>531282775
nigga just run an alt account in an emulator on a second monitor and bring that avatar to the same lobby

That being said if you're so low to cheat in a fucking friendly knockout match you got serious problems

If dragon not getting good draw card for bronze and silver, I will burn KMR banana tree

>>531279946
wait, is BANE an effect?!

>>531282890
Yes the new legendary is 0pp. When spellboost is 10 or higher give leader crest that gives all followers storm

>>531282775
>cheating on a casual play
All that effort of cheating for zero payoff.

Do legendary packs carry over next set?

>>531283021
Yes.

>>531283021
yes

>>531283080
AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE

>opponent drops amelia onto full board
>evos it
>?????????
>concedes

Don't worry bro, we've all misplayed

>>531283075
lol

Every single Abyss card comes with massive downside while every other class plays their shit normally or even with upside. Goddamn Abyss is now the new cuck class instead of Dragon.

>>531279092 (OP)
Why haven't shadowverse.gg updated their leaked card list. Does anyone have link with all the leaked cards that is up to date?

>abysskeks and dragonkeks got no usable cards in set 2
Does KMR just want those crafts to stay meme tier forever?

Forest can be saved by the rest of their cards since they are at least focused on making a bunch of fairy synergy cards.

>portalcraft new legend
>6 pp summon variety of shits and can't be left alive or it will rape your face
>dragon new legend
>8 pp 4/4 does nothing
I'm not mad, just very infuriating.

Below diamond there's zero skill involved in the game, it's just "who drew more of the cards they need when they needed them".

>wealthy rentier
>"god of prosperity" but cheats people and views them as property
>constantly playing the victim
>calls himself a god
>has the mystical talmudic power of harming people based on made up bullshit debts he invents out of midair based on unilateral claims of ownership
>name is literally I Shill and Rig

How the FUCK did kmr get away with this?

>>531282487
yes

>>531283259
inb4 dragon gets a broken as fuck silver or bronze that makes the leggo broken and dragon is tier 0 double genesis dragon on 8 memes

I hope we get some good cosmetics and shop packs in a few days. I want to spend on something other than crystals.

>>531283181
Show me a single card that deals 7 damage to the board and three to the face without a drawback.
What about a 3/3 on turn 1 without a drawback? A 4/3 on turn 2? What about 3 damage to the face for 2pp?

>>531282712
Is portal cunny good for you?

>>531283268
It's the same in diamond. The fuck are you talking about?

>no lobby tournament this weekend

>>531279848
He is broken. Now your opponent need to commit shit ton of resource to kill two unevolved piece of shit. Shit can heal / burn / aoe for free. Not killing the nigger means you will took 16 damage to face next turn. What a fucking menace

>>531282765
mmm deep fried chicken

i cant wait for everyone to craft wilbert and aether day fuckin 1 and it turns out ward haven is unplabale fucking garbage and everyone wasted their vials on that shit

>>531283361

>>531282102
>win the game for playing aria
ebin

I firmly believe your account is given a rank seed when you create it. Your account will always hover around that rank. If you do go above it, you'll just lose until you demote.

Some copers are fucking insane, why would bronze and silver cards be broken? Broken cards are at higher rarity so people will whale for them, if your leggos are shit then that's it, you aren't getting anything better than that

>>531283659
I want leaders and the default sleeve but with fancy animation effects.

i want my magisa sleeves back

They'll reprint Ghandagoza for Dragon and it'll be top tier cancer. Trust me on this one.

>>531283659
Aieeeeeee i want alouette with cock sucking pose

Most important question.
Given all the leaks so far, which class is best for 2pick mode?

>>531283707
Dragons best card is a bronze shark

>>531283681
No this game is genuine
I emote on every Rune player

they genuinely start roping turns when I do
these are real humans anon

>>531283652
haven is always unplayable in t0 rune meta

OWARIDA...

>>531283820
sword easily

>>531282119
>>531282457
The only explanation is that the first 3 sets were supposed to be one big set, and all of these suicide effects were meant to have Wrath as a payoff.

>reprint sybil and eggs
>ramp is now at least usable
No idea why they won't do this

>>531283860
Did you read or understand anything I wrote?

>>531283707
Sit down and let me tell you the story of Chakram Wizard and Robopup two bronze cards that were so broken they were used in the anything goes format of old shadowverse in day 1.

>>531282981
doesn't require an evolve however

>>531283937
Yes
The game is not bricking your hands
you just suck

now go and emote on rune players anon

>Another Knife
>Crest give all fairies +1/+0 when they enter the field

>>531282747
So 24+ hours right

>>531283971
>The game is not bricking your hands

nigga when my hand is nothing but 7/8 costs on T2 the game is rigging my shit.

>>531283941
It's funny these two somehow never got nerfed.

As a longtime blood main and now abyss main, I am genuinely angry at how badly retardgames is treating abyss. I just can't stand playing this craft anymore when its cards are being designed by a retarded monkey. What craft should I switch to?

>>531284029
play forest and i promise you will NEVER have that problem again.

And then emote on rune players before you roach combo them

>>531283652
haven is always a nothingburger craft
meanwhile, people will downplay abyss and ignore that many people reached diamond in high elo

10pp 20/20 storm that -1 cost for everytime you self harm when?

>ask NA stramer to show their deck

uhhhh yeah man it's in the discord, just use !discord

>jp streamers show their deck with QR after every game or every other

>>531283707
True, Acceleratium is much worse than Magna Legacy.

>>531284072
At least they have an excuse with abyss being fucked since they are trying to poorly sew two classes together and will eventually figure it out.

What the fuck is the excuse with dragon who is even worse.

I nearly picked Abysscraft because I thought I can spam skeleton. but I find Orchis sexier and I got her leader and 3x legos. Thank god I didn't pick gimped craft. Puppet is just better wooden skeletons anyway.

>hiis new deck has 3(three, ni, tres)rodeos
wat in the unholy kmr fuck hes mad

Post best emote to give to filthy runeniggers

>>531284087
>tried to learn forest
>had to actually check the deck to see if roach was there because I never fucking drew it

>>531283707
>hedgehog
>flameshield
>demon eater
>tove
>lou
>zombie party
>baphomet
>kei
>airjammer
>sonia(might be bias)

Dragonbros, our status..?

>>531284087
>never
here's your 3 godwoods in opening hand bro

>>531284194
Ha, I just copied that for myself. I noticed there's none of them 1 cost statues in there either. I may try this over what i am running

>>531284175
>What the fuck is the excuse with dragon who is even worse.
Dragon was unplayable trash for the first half a year in SV1, too. The design team at retardgames is just all monkeys.

>Haven being good will make rune even stronger since it deals with their worst matchups easier

Okay, Portal gets to have 6 Allouettes but Abyss can play 6 Razory Claws and kill itself even faster now so who's the real winner here?

>>531284250

>>531284194
umm, 3 is san, buddy

>>531284194
>>531284264

Wait, I just noticed

>1 griffon

How tf are you supposed to win if you don't ever draw the Griffon?

>>531284250
Just stick to playing aggro, ramp is truly a humiliation ritual at this point.

Liam is now a 9 cost.
I have fixed puppet.

>>531284194
>2 tiger amulet

>>531284250
I might just uninstall the game if Dragon ends up being worse than it is now.

>>531284284
At least you dont have to do nothing for four turns and then pray you topdeck the one card you need.

>>531284250
We just jerk off to feetlene on our homescreen

>>531284380
I run 3 and they're always in my fucking hand. Guess it doesn't matter now with the xpac so close. I'll probably cut tiger and some of the bird statues to add in some of the new shit then grab a deck of SV wins in a day or so.

>>531284220
You forgot someone.

>>531284250
At this point, dragon is a neutral deck with some dragon cards splashed in.

>>531284270
If we ever got a Tempest of the God 2.0, I will tell any niggers who bitch about Dragon or Abyss to go fuck themselves.a

>>531284250
Abyss keep crying as if theyre getting the worst treatment, while dragon got 8pp that do literally fucking nothing

>>531284442
The only positive thing for dragon is that ramp will do good against ward haven.

>>531284339
so far it feels like hes praying for lapis(and somehow manage to save a evo) every single turn
>>531284482
its the only way to defend against early board flood, plus they now have rush so i see no reason to cut them any time soon

Is this worth it?

>>531284569
We both got shafted, dragonbro. Dick-measuring who got worse cards when we objectively got the two worst sets of cards is pointless.

>>531284514
So just like a regular Lamp Dragon deck back in SV1

>>531283384
The three to the face is neutral since it hits you too and there currently is ZERO benefit for abyss to hit their own face. It's not uncommon to see William inflict triple digits worth of damage to the board.

>>531284640
rumors have it that if you claim all 10 you get a night with anne or grea

>>531284569
Dirt isn't even acknowledged as an actual deck.

>>531284310
Adopting Forte as my dumb wife!

>>531284698
Can I just watch?

>>531284698
PLEASE be Anne's juicy, bald and royal pussy

>>531284698
Will anne let me watch her poop if I forgo everything else?

>>531284283
>control takes care of combos weaknesses wow

>>531283302
>>name is literally I Shill and Rig
What's his name in Jap? Was this a localization team thing?

>>531284716
Would /svg/ get mad if i downplay dirt?

we desperately need that new expansion. it was fun playing this version of the game where everybody is effectively playing the same decks for a little while, but I am desperate to snowflake-max.

>>531284354
Is it really that simple?

Are we gonna get any non roach decks, or something to make roach easier? I really want to play forest but I'm too stupid for it.

>>531284645
No he's right, at worst abyss still playable on next set. I genuinely have no idea how ramp and dirt can works unless they hide stupid strong silvers

Abyss got the worst cards on this set.
Holy shit, what the fuck is up with the balancing.

>>531284846
>where everybody is effectively playing the same decks

I got some bad news for you bro

If only Ho also reshuffle your hand... FUCKING HO

>>531284685
I'm going to be polite here, but can you try reading it again?
I said show me an equivalent *without* a drawback, ergo, I was taking that into consideration already.
William has the board clear covered, but he's also 1pp higher and healing the 3 face damage comes without a body in rune(as opposed to bats/ceres/olivia)

TempoForest is going to be good bros
I can feel it in my bones

>>531284905
Retargames' design team is staffed by monkeys.

>>531284985
bro about to get squirrel'd

>all silver are trash
>NEW YEAR NEW ME
>wipes your board and leave a body while being low cost

>>531284194
That deck looks like disaster

>>531284846
People going to play the exact same deck but with more leggos, hope you like it

>>531284985
Unironically Forest has a lot of flexible and fucked up cards that this wouldn't be unimaginable.

>>531285057
That's lethal

>>531284905
After the Portal reveal it's pretty obvious that KMR's sabotaging and killing the game intentionally.

yes if liam was a 9 cost puppet is unironically saved

>>531285073
can't forget about our carroty boy as well

All I want is to banish godwood staff

>tilt off the face of the earth
>close the game
>can't think of anything else I want to do
>immediately reopen the game and keep playing

This shit is fucking addicting. Only a few other game shave captured me like this one.

>>531284979
Glade is generally a better Gravy. He can hit for more damage and drawing 2 cards is generally better than saving a single evo point.

>>531285204
godwood staff banishes itself next set
roach is gonna be ass tier

Allthrought out SV1 people said it was dying.
We are getting a good five year at least of this.

>>531285258
Shut the fuck up Todd

>>531285293
I'll give it 6 months before Cy starts putting busted ass cards and leaders with bonuses in evolve packs and that's the only way you can get them. That's what willl kill the game.

Midrange with Rose Queen as a finisher will be the next meta. Mark my words.

>>531285293
they had to nerf dshift for killing the game, now they have to do the same with dclimb

So did you win anons?

>>531285586
4 wins and then I got cucked by Shartifacts…

>>531284159
@ThunderOfOstia
*wave*

>2nd set meta is just portal and rune again except artifact and spellboost are even better
Great...

>>531284270
it was tier 2 in classic

>>531285273
A much better example.
Card draw is certainly more flexible than 3 face damage and he clears way better to boot.
Most classes would kill for either, but giving aggro 3 face damage *and* a board clear for without some sort of pp increase/stat downsizing/other drawback(like defence) is silly.

>>531284985
Ward haven is the big match up that everyone has to plan around right now. I'm not convinced it's actually going to be the best deck in the format or anything but it's definitely going to be good and requires a different game plan than you'd be bringing against any other contenders. Tempo Forest might get checked solely because aura is such a fucked up thing for forest.

>1 year delay for this state of balance
And nips will eat this garbage up and cygames will never change

>>531285808
>but giving aggro
There is no aggro abyss deck, anon. Some people tried it for the meme, but it's so fucking bad it's not a real deck.

i fucking hate this card and her fat tits

>Its gonna be more artifags and runeniggers and maybe haven

>>531285878
aggro abyss is deck you use to suicide in lobby matches now

Emergency abyss buffs doko

aragavy should split his dmg between all enemies (incl leaders)

What's the last rune legendary?

>>531285117
>>531285001
The meta is going to be entirely the fucking same, except rune/portal/sword are going to be even stronger and the powergrap between the bad decks and good decks are widened considerably more.

If you thought there was little to no dragon/abyss...etc players currently out there expect considerably less now.
People were already tired of this dogshit meta and it just got reinforced for another 1.5months

Can someone post the new abyss card? I missed the reveal, and I only see the legendary and 3 drop rare on the site from days ago.

haven t0
dirt rune t0
believe it

>>531286075
Exella, Dark General
4pp 1/3
Storm
Fanfare: Gain +1/0 for each other allied follower. Deal 2 damage to your leader.

She's literally a worse Razory Claw.

>>531285979
Have faith. The bronzes will save abyss. Trust the plan.

>all jp casuals have abandoned the game
>only matching vs autist sv1 masters

>>531285586
im too scared to queue

>>531285998
I just wish instances of split damage happen individually so he doesn’t get cucked hard by barrierniggers

>>531286146
tanaka-san is wage slaving rn

>>531285586
0 wins as rune because I bricked twice. So is the fate of the gambling deck.

>>531285773
kind of upseeting thinking of all the ways ive seen bellringer killed

kmr had to make bloodfed cost 3 instead of 1 and make it a crest instead so you cant stack and also make the 3drop have 1 health so it dies to 0pp cards
very cool

>>531286225
when is the next opening?

This is the ideal Portal hand.
You may not understand it, but this is peak gaming.

List of Abyss reveals:
>9pp worse Amalia
>5pp worse Luminous Magus/worse Dark Airjammer
>4pp worse Razory Claw
>3pp Zell knock-off
Who the fuck thought this is what Abyss needs?

>>531286129
>4pp 1/3
honestcraft confirmed

>>531285586
>first game against rune and he dclimbed + astaroth
>second game against portal and I didn't get a single card draw, koun, card to play in general
At least it's over now.

>>531285586
im 2-1 so ill do my last match in the last 10 minutes

>>531286327
shouldve played hours ago during jp morning when all the neets were asleep

>>531285586
I lost so many times that I didn't even qualify to play.

Something nobody pointed out yet: because dark general's damage gain is on fanfare, she has horrible anti-synergy with reanimate, as she then comes back as a 1/3 with no fanfare. This is so fucking awful, holy shit, who approved this garbage?

If I play face dragon, I might get ridiculed by abyss when they start doing their own face damage faster than me...

I think I misunderstood how this event works. I thought if you didn't make it to group A finals you would automatically be in group B finals.

Are we rolling for Yuzuha /svg/?

0/2 Ding Dong
1/4 Ding Dong
1/6 aura DING DONG
3/10 aura DING DONG

>>531279092 (OP)
Are you guys ready? Haven would be complete with Summit

>>531285586
3-2
first loss rune drew double miranda wind blast into lego spam
second loss sword opened perfect 1,2,3,4 and i had no alouette or cannon

jst 8am is 7pm est so maybe thats a good time

>>531286129
Why the fuck did they think this needed a fucking drawback? There’s still nothing that benefits from self damage wtf. Realistically speaking this thing will never be more than 3/3 on a good day. 3/3 storm for 4pp you gotta be fucking kidding me.

>>531286551
Who?

>>531286552

>>531286552
weak

>>531286587
Now imagine playing a ghost juggler and reanimating a vanilla 1/3 storm. They literally designed her to have anti-synergy with the rest of abyss.

>>531286552
We must go BIGGER

>>531286551
the raccoon fucked THAT?

>>531286587
The ONLY explanation is that we were supposed to have Wrath cards to work with. These first 3 sets were most likely supposed to be one big launch day set before some jew decided to split them up. With the omens returning in set 3, and valnareik being the face of Wrath, ALL of abyss' payoff for the self damage has been bottled up into the third set.

>>531285586
0-2 in Group A with Face Dragon
First match was a Roach that beat me in a face race
2nd match was against puppet portal running the cloning wards

I was hoping to get nothing but Rune.

>>531286391
that did not answer the question you RETARF

I want to ____ the ____ out of her

>>531286587
ITS TOO STRONG, PLS UNDERSTAND!!111
ALL POWERFUL CARDS NEEDS A DRAWBACK, THAT IS HOW BALANCE WORKS!!111

JUST LOOK AT HOW WE BALANCED THE NEW PORTAL LEGENDARY!
T-THEY DON'T EVEN CREATE ANY NEW GEARS!!!

ITS CALLED BALANCE!

>>531286552
>>531286601
>>531286650

>>531286719
>and valnareik being the face of Wrath
I'm 99% certain they'll water her down and remove the Wrath keyword from her. Instead she'll cost 2 hp and 2 extra pp over her statline to get a single skeleton in return like some retarded shit like that.

>>531286516
we warned you

>>531286516
That's what it said in the English news post but it was a mistranslation. You had to win 3 out of 5 for B finals.

>turn 2 oracle
>turn 3 double oracle

>>531286767
"facial reconstruct", "uglyness"

>>531286719
wrath doesn't even work when everything hits you for 2, they completely lost the plot

>>531285878
You can argue this point if you like, but I don't really feel like continuing after writing it out.

>can't find the new swordcraft gold on the official sv account
Did they delete the post?

>>531286719
i recall this being the set 2 cope or something similar

Forestbros, why am I enjoying doomposting

I'm watching the shadowba anime and seeing that the protag plays dragon for both of them. I guess I'll go back to playing dragon...

>>531286853
>>531286797
Well, shit. Wasn't it like that in the original SV years ago?

>>531286890
they did
another intern fired, rip
https://x.com/shadowversegame/status/1944957592935260412

HOW MANY HOURS DO I HAVE TO DO THE FINAL GRAND PRIX ROUND

>>531286953
until the reset after next

>>531286879
All these cards are awfully designed in the first place, anon. Either they should never have been designed like that, or there should have been some payoff for the self-damage.
Symmetrical effects without a way to break the symmetry are inherently awful in every card game. The only reason you'd ever want symmetrical effects is if you could break the symmetry somehow, and Blood could do this with vengeance or wrath. Abyss has no way to break the symmetry, so all those cards are worthless garbage.

>>531286010
Maybe it's Dirt since all 3 were Spellboost in Legends Rise? Also I think Mokou is revealing it and he played Dirt at the start of WB.

>>531286894
That was before we found out that they were only putting 77 cards in set 2. We thought that we'd actually see some diversification to shake up the meta. Stuff to fill in the massively missing gaps in the cardpools for everyone not Rune/artifact.

>>531286953
next reset it's over

>>531286879
And then what happens when you don’t open with those specific cards and get bodied into turn 6+

>>531286997
it has to be dirt, the other one is not good and the first 3 were already for spellboost

>be abysskek
>play ghost juggler hoping to reanimate your Ceres to heal away from lethal
>instead you pull dark general, a useless 1/3 storm
How do you respond to this without sounding mad?

>>531286574

>>531286894
>it was so obvious bros that set 1&2 were a pair that was split up bros
>TRUST bros once set 2 comes out its totally gonna solve all our issues and our decks will feel complete

Now its
>ITS OBVIOUS SET 1&2&3 WERE SUPPOSED TO COME TOGETHER AND WERE INSTEAD SPLIT APART, NEXT SET WILL TOTALLY FIX ALL OUR PROBLEMS

>>531286010
>>531281537

>>531287054
>implying they're not reprinting daria for full armageddon on this fucking game

>>531286984
>>531287043
Why are you like this

>>531286997
I got no hope anymore for dirt, just introduce the manaria / mysteria archetype already

>>531287093
If not 3, then 4...

>>531287074
I don't have space in my deck to put in brick juggler

So, abyss sisters, what class are we switching too now that KMR has finalized his betrayal?

>>531286129
>turn 1 cope theoretical 1 drop bronze/silver from new set that does anything
>turn 2 coin mausoleum
>turn 3 bonermancer, hope they either ignore her or only kill her and not the skellies
>turn 4 open mausoleum exella evolve exella for a total of 9 damage to face. 11 in the highroll/dumb scenario of opponent killing boner and not the skellies.

>>531287116
would make me quit unironically

>>531287128
But Mysteria is stronger than spellboost in SV1. People would complain

>>531287187
Portal, it has cute girls.

>>531287220
Now I'm hoping they actually do it.

>>531287187
I am considering Haven since I have all their set 1 legendaries. Maybe Sword as an alternative because Abyss is TEMU Sword.

>>531287193
10 damage. You still have 'mancer on the field

it's beautiful

help

>>531287226
What does mysteria deck do?

If forest doesn't get a way to play around aura as one of their other cards its going to be so fucked.

You can theorycraft he most insane hands to beat Aether and it still won't work and that's not even including if they have an extra ward our before using Aether

HULLO
which deck?
?_?

holy shit
the most satisfying thing in this game

>you play satan
>opponent concedes when he's saying his voiceline

that shit is kino

>>531287331
Abyss

How
Do
Me
Stop when enemy draw good card
But me
Draw bad card
:(

>>531287297
Stall to t10 for rose queen otk

>>531287297
youre rose queen?

>>531286927
Which craft has the sluttiest girls?

>>531287331
rune, everything else sucks

>>531287193
Anon... You could do pretty much the same using a Razory Claw instead of Exella. Actually better if you use Razory Claw + Lesser Mummy.

>>531287382
>>531287385
probably at the bottom of my deck

>>531287317
Power of friendship
If you've ever played YGO, their deck is basically this

>>531287421
HUGE old man

>>531287318
>If forest doesn't get a way to play around aura
You dont play forest swordbab they dont need your concern.
Worry about yourself, and the fact you can barely count to 10 as it is.

>>531287364
Hello thank you
Abyss?
I hava mosta da cardos
I think
These are my Abyssfriends
:<

>>531287171
SURELY THE FIRST ANNIVERSARY WILL BE WHEN SHADOWBA IUS TANOSIIIIIIIIIII

NEVER BETRAY THE FOREST FOLK

>>531287421
>>531287483
well he bricked i guess

>>531287372
This is a perplexchinzing question...
:/

>>531287263
I was considering the suicide 'mancer play for the 2 skellies. If you choose to go face with mancer it still adds up to 9 (1 from mancer, 2 from ghosts, exella only goes up to 4+2). I guess there's a theoretical ultra highroll where the 1 drop survives to turn 4 which could add up to 11. But if we're assuming this level of highroll may as well just say you drop beryl on 2 and mausoleum on 3 or some shit, I was trying to present a relatively realistic scenario.

>>531287451
>Pay half your life to summon a bunch of free shit
This is banned right? That sounds absurd lol

>>531286636
Ghost juggler ensures we will never get a good aggressive 4 drop.

Also, I’m trying to think. The absolute best draw to maximize this thing t4 would be what, play crypts on 2 and 3 with coin, pop them all and swing for 11 with evo? All while doing nothing for 3 turns and probably near death against any aggressive deck?

If needing a topdeck to put the last bit of storm damage on for lethal, it’s a strictly worse mummy even. I’m fucking livid.

WHERES OUR PAYOFF

>>531287562
It's been banned for like 20 years

>3-0 into getting omega high rolled by forest and rune into 3-2
FUCK UFKC UFKCUFK FUCKFU CKFUKCFU CUFKCUF KCUKFCUK OFFF NIGGEEEEEEEEEEERS

>>531287386
I can't answer that yet, not too deep into the show

>>531287390
Secret information: Exella is just razory claws 4-6.

>>531287597
All me

>>531287502
he was trying to mislead you but ironically youve got a good base for an abyss deck
not the strongest but still solid if you like the archetype
what are your other legos?
also in case you havent used an invite code you can click the banner in picrel and get 2000 free rupies using my code
8NCVS4H

>>531287358
what does he say?
Old one was "Despair, come to me" which was excellent.

Which 'craft is the worst and which 'craft is the best in the meta?

>>531287597
oh no you missed on a do nothing flair and a couple packs
it's over for you better quit the game

I finally did it rampbros...

>>531287560
I just had a brainfart desu.
Minused 1 from the 11 to take into account the missing body... only to forget exella loses 1 as well.

>>531287690
Thank you friend!!!
I will useth the code
:D

>>531287187
I need to see the bronzes first. But if those fall through, I might just try to branch out into rally sword and brainlessly play shit on curve.

>Steam rolled group B finals against noobs
>Got my first Rose Queen as a reward
Imagine winning group A and only getting a globe

>>531287690
>>531287801
Horray
Hip hop hip horray for ****tzy!!!
:D

>>531287769
Forest is best
Haven is worst

Set 2 will reverse that

>>531287690
>>531287801
>>531287867
AHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>531287854
I'd prefer it over 1k vials

>>531287801
np
btw portal and rune are the most meta
rune requires a lot of legendaries to work so unless you pulled them itll be really expensive
portal is relatively cheap
you should pick the one you pulled the most cards for

>>531286929
The way it is here is also how it works in SV1. If you qualify for round 2 A and then not win 3/5 you can't play the finals.

>>531287774
Ramp is so fucking free. Please continue to play ramp so I can free wins.

>>531287972
Did I (chintzy) win????

>>531287597
>be me
>be shitter
>also play abyss
>only get to group b finals
>go 3-0
>win sleeves/icon, 3 packs, and free orchis leggo
I’ll take my w’s where I can

do they usually not release all the cards beforehand? this shits out in like 2 days

>>531287938
>3am
You're going to end up back in the hospital if you don't take care of yourself chintzy. Go to bed

>>531288008
hes a really good card to have one of

>>531287187
I'm just gonna keep playing Abyss until it becomes literally unplayable. Everyone was shitting on it for this first set and it was still good enough I went 4-2 in Group A of Grand Prix, which isn't a win but is close enough for me without compromising my soul by playing Rune or something.

>>531287597
fuck you only people like me that got highrolled into a 0/2 are allowed to complain

>>531288034
apparently they only release all legends and golds
no silvers and bronzes apparently

which is fucking weird because silvers and bronzes are some of the most impactful cards in a deck

Why did WB nerf this spell to 2pp

Thoughts?

Why do people even reply to this autist? Should be a bannable offense.

>>531288008
Hes a good finisher until you finish getting the other cards you need for decks

>>531288151
This is too high IQ for me I don't get it

>>531288151
Looks like the bane of sword players

>>531288137
Only Rune is allowed to draw 2 for 1 pp, fuck you bitch.

>>531288151
Forest bros...

>>531288151
how do you respond without sounding mad?

>>531288151
>t4 coin alouette
>t5 alouette
>t6 anything to clear wilbert
>t7 coin orchis

>>531288137
Use it on Super-Evo as free draw 2

>>531288260
Congrats, you achieved nothing other than clearing his board

>>531288153
Uh, you're going to have to be more specific about which autist you mean, you're in a 4chan general thread for a japanese anime virtual ccg. Everyone here is at least kinda autistic.

>>531288074
I am already tired....
And i don wanna go back >:(
Old man watching tv loud at 2am!!
And another guy set the BEEEEP off a lot

>>531288151
>new wallet deck

>>531288151
Aether > Salefa > Jeanne >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wilbert

>>531288078
>>531288169
I got another
:(

>>531288262
Given that it can't be used that way until super-evolutions, I think that's pretty reasonable compared to homework time.

>>531287187
I play three different classes anyway (Abyss being the main one) and frankly I don't think shit is nearly as bad as you niggas seem to anyway.

>>531287074
Why would you be running both Ceres and Exella in the same deck in the first place?

>>531288328
then whats he gonna do
jeanne + his last sevo to clear my orchis?
artifact outgrinds evoless haven easily

>>531288153
He's fairly harmless as far as things go.
Reminds me of Eli occasionally too...

Why is every form of mental illness here?
Can we go back to being dead with just SV1?

>>531287074
Why would you run Juggler with multiple 4 costs? The rule with Reanimate is to always minimize the RNG as much as possible, so you only ever Juggle if you're playing a single 4. Not that you should be juggling anyways that card's kinda ass.

Where is my last rune sissy card at

>>531287187
im probably going to stick with abyss because i hate all of the other decks

>>531288468
you know the 7drop summons 3 on fanfare right?
if he clears gundam you're fucked

>>531288579
clears gundam with what lmao

>>531284482
>SV wins

>>531285586
I got the sleeves in group B hehe...nobody would ever find out

>>531288613
Cum chalice, probably.

>>531288613
Tru
If only there was a 6pp amulet that unconditionally destroyed all followers I'm sure Haven would play it

The class is called nightmare because playing it is a fucking nightmare with how terrible the cards are.

>>531288151
Haven isn't rune. You wont see this happen over 50% of the time because they can't draw half their deck by turn 4.

Do we get to see all the bronze/silver cards tomorrow?

>>531288665
>>531288686
he already used it on my lalmia

>>531288665
>>531288686
>Evolves the new 2pp 2/2 to make the gundam immune to destruction effects
Now what, havensissy?

2hu collab when?

>>531288729
Bronze/Silver will be on update day, when they also update the Deck Portal.

>>531288716
Just realized him having double attack means +2 face damage from his super evo. Another small thing that makes the Beta spam plan better now.

>>531288716
>doesn't need an evo
>16 face damage if you let him live a turn
I want to punch KMR

>>531288621
what's wrong with that website?
its like the closest thing to datadriven results we have for this game.
maybe if the JCG starts up we can analyze tournament results but that's a different context

>I'm playing dragon and abyss
Emerald gaming

With how awful the legends and golds have been, are there even any bronzes and silvers that could possibly save abyss?

haven't gotten a legendary from park chest for two weeks now

>>531288946
its better down there, or at the least more fun

I LOVE AUTO LOSING TO SWORD BECAUSE I DIDN'T DRAW APOLLO
I ADORE THE EVOLESS BOARD VOMIT THEY DO THAT YOU HAVE TO CLEAR OR THEY THREATEN LETHAL BY TURN 6
LOW TIER DECK BTW!!!

>>531288979
2pp and 3pp storm wolves

>>531288992
>still wasting park keys
>when expac is in 2 days
youre ngmi

>>531288613
With what you say?

>"Not a discard deck has come in! Damn it, I need something to do!"
Burnite...

>>531288992
>Not saving your keys
ngmi

Fact: Abyss will be T1 solely for the fact it's an easy counter to ward haven due to its removals.

>>531289054
I could get the socks and 50 vials now or in two days, same shit

>>531281458
sword is the dead cockroach

Bronze and Silvers will save Abyss and Dragon. Pic related.

>>531288979
Dragon needs at least 1 more thing that gives ramp

>>531288716
literally creatively bankrupt "what if we just make it so you can have 6 copies of alouette but lets also make it an autowin if they have no answer"

I will you my breast milk for new cards

>>531289097
Going to see less play than even forest legendaries in 2 days.

>>531288716
Shit, I got cancer...

>>531288912
of course there is *some* overlap between decks that get a winstreak and good decks, but it's super heavily skewed by popularity
early metagame is also completely fucked as retards are going to try all sorts of random garbage which will result in other random garbage "working"

>>531289097
wild that she''s anti-synergistic with the new legend

>>531288716
>Have to choose between removing this cunt or artifact beta if you're not rune or haven
Fucking bitch

>>531288704
I'm a swordfag and I don't think playing 5>6>7>8 is hard and sword has 0 draw, haven has 1PP draw 2 or bellringer(if you run one), it should be way more stable than sword, people like to think sword players have low iq but I think people are retarded for not seeing that ward haven is just a way better sword deck, shit, they even have their albert which is 9/11 Griffon

>>531288716
my fuarking goat
shame he doesnt float
i hope he still has his cool laser and the sick sound effect

>>531288729

lmao that portal legendary is cancer and a half

It's called Abysscraft because the card quality is abysmal.

>>531289290
Its not a choice when he can super evo and hit you for 16 if you dont remove him

>>531288716
I think he's really good because it's nice to have another proactive play for these midgame turns and also against Rune if you made only Betas you can deal damage with them while still dealing with their board by super-evoing him.

How come portal be like ohhhhh I get a 6 cost legendary that deals 5 damage to you on its turn and kills you if you don’t clear him also the artifact has a ward and is immune to effect damage so you have to crash first >_<‘ and sword gets a 8 cost do nothing you can’t attack and here have some goons any card can probably kill it

>>531289290
he like alouette gets fucked by phildau
though unlike alouette if you do that youre now down an evo point

>>531289272
Hmm then what would you recommend as a data driven deck resource?
I've tried building myself but honestly it's hard getting a read as to whether my choices are harming me or not with how variance works.

>>531289117
Doesn't matter, very few here actually play Abyss and most opinions about it are purely speculative or shitposting altogether

>>531289304
>sword has 0 draw

>>531289417
I play abyss and the reveals have been fucking depressing. None of the new cards seem even remotely good and I expect abyss to just fall behind the other crafts even further.

>expansion drops
>turns out ward haven sucks ass
>portal is overrated
>dragon leggo is broken as fuck
>roach is still tier 0

imagine

>>531284698
I would beat the living shit out of you nigger

>>531288482
>eli
qrd? is that an old /svg/ namefag?

>>531289304
Sword's power cards don't have to be played in a specific order to be effective.
Albert cannot be stopped with wards unless they have over 3 defense.
Sword has tutor 2 swordcraft followers while haven's draw may get clogged by support cards they're forced to run to not die

>>531289519
Portal is already overrated

>T1 1 drop
>T2 2pp puppet drop
>T3 3 drop
>T4 Coin Alouette
>T5 Alouette
>T6 Karula (Don't even need to evolve him because he needs to be cleared or you die)
How do I beat this?

>>531288716
>portal gets even more free face damage plus a game ending threat
Fuck you! Give rune better heal or it'll be unplayable, you fucking cunts.

Swordbros, we'll be able to put up a better fight against artifactniggers next expansion, right?

>>531286551
I don't like mesugakis. Going for Alice and Orphie.

>>531289615
hahahaha 8pp do nothing
hahahaha

Do BP leaders have a special UI / border or is that only for gacha leaders ?

>>531289607
Just build a wall and make sword pay for it

>>531289419
Have you been away for a month? Nobody plays this shit anymore man, it's literally 6PP do nothing because face damage is everything

>>531289615
>Summons gamma for free t6
LOL

runesissy are QUAKING from this new Portal leggo

I assume your Lucky Chest resets when Set 2 releases? There's no way they would let that carry over for you to spark.

>>531289413
i don't think there is a good one lmao
unironically a better idea to copy from grinders

>>531289607
>anne & grea
>anne & grea
>kuon
>>531289728
it's a separate counter each set

>>531286905
Because it's funny. Deep down you know it's not that bad.

This girl is super cutie!
How do I unlock her card?
>>531289330
Very cute!

Damn, I actually think he looks kinda cool despite being a hot male character.

>>531289728
it doesn't reset but it doesn't carry over to the new pack

>>531289720
Not really. I can just william or clear with a single A&G evo.

>>531289728
Your pity for Legends Rise stays. It does not count for Infinity Evolved.

>>531288494
No.

>>531289804
what does he do?

>>531286905
Because as much as /svg/ cries and shits and pisses we all know the balance isn't THAT bad besides rune being a bit too consistently strong.

>>531289859
>>531288716

>>531289859
Tell me what you think he does

>>531289690
>"Nobody plays this shit anymore man"
>opened the swordcel stream
>
>

>none of the new cards help kill Runecraft
>Runecraft got a powerful anti-aggro card to make them much harder to kill early on
What did KMR mean by this?

>>531289783
>>531289818
>>531289823
>gonna have to spend to get Aether or luckshit now

thanks bros

>>531288494
With this treasure I summon ESL DRAGONKEK

>>531289804
I liked him better when he looked more slender, the perspective her makes him look like a V shaped fridge

>>531289859
Alouette 2 that will rape you if you don't remove him.

>>531288716
This is 200% getting nerfed.

>>531288716
>evoless alouette for 1 more mana and better stats despite alouette already being overtuned
>optional sevo
This is a joke right?

>>531289892
>>531289895
>>531289941
kek no words.

who do i play in set 2 if I just want to super win without any effort? really getting tired. do I just craft the third kuon and grab their new gold and move on with my life?

>>531289967
doesn't give gears on fanfare

Let's assume you have a lone Avian statue on turn 4 as Ward Haven going first. Sword reaches turn 4 and they play Quickblader + Zirconia Evo using extra PP.

How do you respond?

>>531289615
Fuck no, see
>>531289607
3 gammas in a row, nothing you play will stick and there's no way to clear all these reliably, they'll hit your face and you'll die, your 5PP 1/3 shits out 3 2/2 wards become 5PP do nothing because lol gamma, the 6PP white tigher is shit, Yurius is shit, sword doesn't get stronger at all while portal gets their bullshits card.

>karula perfectly shores every weakness AF had
okay damn didn't expect something this good
I'm perfectly content now and do not care what other archetypes get

>>531289967
its funny cause alouette is so broken your ideal 5/6/7 was still alouette
now you have 3 more

>>531290004
If he was an abyss card, he'd cost 8pp and deal 5 damage to your face when played, but he'd give you a FREE skeleton on death in return.

>>531289992
You drop the game if you want to super win
In a Haven environment, the only winning move is not to play in the first place

>game begins
>mulli away one card
>get the same card back but animated
Epic

>>531289519
>Control Sword rises from nothing to tier 0
Kino

so with this new portal leggo artifact completely drops the puppet engine right
they need tons of gears now

>>531290087
what do you mean? I'm fine with Haven too, I like their theme

>>531290081
You literally have a better Eachtar for 8pp with no downside.

Sword will get a silver Liza... Trust the plan...

>>531289992
any puppet in hand + alouette + alouette + new portalnigger + orchis is exactly 20 damage btw just leaving that out there

>>531289992
Rune will be tier 0, so yes.

>>531289519
>roach is still tier 0
It will be my wetdream

>>531290126
what puppet engine ?
you only play lovestruck and orchis, and you probably don't drop them
hybrid decks were already bad
karula just takes cannon's spot

>>531290126
I think with this they just drop the pretense they're ever making the Gundam, actually, so all you need is enough mats for a single Beta.

>>531290159
I mean, you will be playing wallet haven with incidental heals built into its kit right?
KMR needs his revenue for those leggos

>>531289567
>he doesnt maidpost
'maid' or 'science foundation' on desu will fill you in a little.
He's a fun guy if you work with him a bit
Try and stick to cardgames though ok?>>531289519
Probably closer to the truth than what you'll here. Pre-release thoughts are very rarely correct in actuality, even moreso when we won't know the meat of the set until release.

>the only way to make Artifactniggers not steal puppet's new cards is to put the most OP shit in the same pp slot
Sasuga...

>>531290143
This is just not true. Eachtar was 7pp, which inherently makes him better, and he didn't cost any shadows to give the +2/0 buff, while Cerberus can sometimes fail to give the buff if you don't have 6 shadows, which makes it hard to run cards like Mukan.
Sure, Cerberus has some upsides to make up for that, but she isn't a literal better Eachtar, she's more of a sidegrade.

>>531290126
2/2 free 1 puppet is broken, Orchis is broken, other than that? Worthless, just like pure puppet deck

>>531290221
beta spam doesnt work in the mirror
you get countered by alpha then they actually have gundam wincon while you have beta bricks vs their ralmia board

>>531289615
Sir a second Allouette has hit the 6 drop section

Shadoba parku!

>>531290114
Control sword (regular sword with one or two cards swapped out btw) is already better than anything abyss or haven has

I wanted to whale for the dragon leader but lost all motivation to do so, specially because the set is small anyway

>>531290017
It's my turn 5, I use Safela and evo, clearing their board.

>>531289804
Too brown.

>>531290004
The idea is for you to amass Gundam parts on early game, something every decent AF player should be doing.
AF right now in particular has nothing to do on T6 and T7 unless you have multiple Alouette, and this card really helps with that.

>>531290081
Abyss would cream itself if it got literally any of the 5 cost artifacts as normal cards, let alone ones that get cheated out as copies with additional stat sticks next to them.

>>531290374
thats good for you tho
if you complete the set then you can keep buying more and get guaranteed vials till EoS

>>531290126
Dropping lovestruck will mean they don't have good tempo. That single puppet can matter whether if Gundam can push through that Llyod or not

>>531290017
I go to /svg/ and bitch about sword like any good haven player would have me do

>>531290437
yeah I was thinking about that too but getting the dragon leader for a tier 5 deck is just not it

I should have just done my GP games at reset, it's literally 100% sword at these hours

>>531290312
>beta spam doesnt work in the mirror
Why not? You make a beta, opponent makes an alpha, it cancels out, both of you are trying to make Gundam you just keep copying the same one alpha/beta in your hand.

Hello my name is chintzy
What is this thingy?

Anyone else like listening to rap while grinding ranked?

>>531290126
karula being evoless alouette opens you up to evolve miriam
which currently you really want to do but cant afford to since all of your cards need evo to work
thats why cannon is so good rn since it lets you evo miriam

>>531290126
Nah Lovestruck and Orchis still gonna stay because of how broken they are.
Might drop Sylvia to 2 and take out Bricksurgence though.

>>531290494
Dragon will probably become playable at some point, having said that you could just whale when it's actually playable instead of throwing your money at it now.

First finals match
All three roaches and all three staffs in the bottom 15 cards and I lost to Rune doing Satan dclimb after he did nothing except remove my shit and heal for 12 for 10 turns

>>531290576
kys

>>531290521
beta spam refers to making multiple betas to kill with doomwright / ralmia

>turn 1 +1 artifact piece
>turn 2 +1 piece
>turn 3 +2 pieces
>turn 4 ~0-2 pieces
>turn 5 +2 pieces
>turn 6 Karula or Sylvia 0 pieces
>turn 7 0 pieces
>turn 8 Ralmia has artifacts assembled from 6 to 8 pieces, so 1 or 2 3pp artifacts + 1 5pp artifact
I mean, with a curve like this you were probably going to win anyway. But it's worth considering. If Ralmia was already getting cut from some lists, next patch it's even more justified to do so.

>>531290578
Rap is not music.

>>531290417
>sylvia for draw/removal/healing
>low cost artifacts producers/efficient removal to set up ralmia and control the board/pressure the opponent
>nothing to do

>>531290521
>both of you are trying to make Gundam
exactly
you cant win with just beta burn unlike what the anon i replied to was implying

>>531290017
Evo Salefa hit Zirconia and it's all gone, that -2 HP from quickblader earlier also become +1 HP from the heal, next turn I play Wilbert so swordfag can say byebye to ever hitting my face again because with 7PP I'm playing Aether, swordfag literally CAN'T clear it at all whatsoever no matter what they draw

>>531290678
Yes it is.

>>531290521
Alpha is 1 core cheaper, thats why.

>>531290689
sylvia draw proactively is negative tempo and doesnt advance your wincon
you cant afford to play 6pp seraphic tidings while youre trying to setup a wincon

>>531290708
>Play the new 6pp
>2 damage to all
>Summon lance
>Another 2 damage to all

NEW CARD WHERE

Set2 is 1 set do nothing honestly
Players will still find something to be upss\ about when it comes

>>531290671
ralmia is only getting cut from hybrick decks that try to force beta damage to make up for how inconsistent puppets are, and then collapse under the weight of their own clunkiness

Just made it back to sapphire on the corpses of artifact and rune. Feels good.

>>531290578
I dont like negro

>>531290690
Right, portal literally has counter for everything so beta spam doesn't work, but it'll work on shit decks like sword/dragon/abyss for sure, clearing out the beta is hard enough already for them and they can't heal the beta damage, you'll just kill them with SEVO Orchis later if beta isn't enougb to kill them

will gameplay be heavily altered by set 2?

The only classes that have a reliable answer to Amelia + Luminous are:
>Portal
That's it. Nice fucking game.

>>531290790
>blowing out 2/3 followers with evo/sevo plus a draw/heal and a threat on board is negative tempo

I had to get through 4 swordbabs and a portalbab, but honesty won in the end, runesisters.

>>531290923
No. Enjoy your spellboost and artifact meta.

>>531290934
Kneel to the cum chalice, Swordbab.

Got tired of constant humiliation rituals Im leaving

>>531290881
I like listening to rap when im playing ranked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCxJO5OKW5Q
I am in Diamond.

>>531290901
i mean thats implying you have enough tempo to make and spawn beta instead of gamma

YOU ARE CUTTING SYLVIA FOR KARULA IN ARTIFACTS, RETARDS
holy shit this thread is bad

>>531290934
I just got amelia + amalia'd today with coin nice fucking game chinkoids

>>531290986
shhh don't try to reason with people that complain about artifact they don't play the game and don't understand this

>>531290934
Neutral spell and neutral guy evolve

>>531290923
strong get stronger, weak get weaker

>>531290806
WAOW 4 AoE damage, do you know how much HP my shits have? 3/5 ward with barrier, 3/8 ward, 6/9 Aether, 2/4 not a ward that'll become 5/7 after all the wards are gone, left one up and next tuen you'll get Jeanne and lose

>>531291000
Literally nobody is saying otherwise you
Illiterate fuck.

I just woke up and saw the Abyss spoiler
I wish I died in my sleep

>>531291000
I'm gonna remove the dingdongs I put in my deck because the game is too easy

>>531290648
Oh it a tickie
Is it rare?
Which to get!!

>>531291000
mmmh nyo I think I'll cut cannon retard

>>531291078
okay, illiterate fuck.

>>531291146
card style

>>531291103
What waz it

>>531291146
leader unless you like park erp

>>531290689
>sylvia for draw/removal/healing
The problem with Sylvia is she needs to use evo to actually be a threat, something AF needs to save for Alouette or Miriam. You just gonna drop her raw while the opponent has a body?
In contrast Karula can bring with him a Gamma to check units with 3 HP or lower, all without needing to evo while threatening to hit face twice next turn.
>low cost artifacts producers/efficient removal to set up ralmia and control the board/pressure the opponent
Bullet and Stream both target one unit, and you can't double Bullet on T7.

>>531291187
>>531291201
I am confuse......d
X(

>>531291198
4pp razory claw

>>531290934
?

>>531290806
>need 2 exact cards just to clear a 7PP big brain one card combo from haven
It's not looking too good swordbros...

Why is artifact the only archetype that gets more aggressive next patch instead of receiving wards up the ass like everyone else?

>>531291146
Leader, unless you like kaori more. Then I guess the homescreen, unless you like kaori more, then the visage set I guess for erp with the bros...

>>531290945
So when are you going to accumulated 11 parts for Gundam?

>>531290945
>use sevo on Sylvia
>now no sevo for Orchis

So the 6 cost sword leggo is good right

And I went 1-2 after getting assfucked by two runes while I was drawing the shittiest cards possible. Literally 1 health off of killing the second one

>>531290934
portal derange syndrome

in addition to +2/4 Jeanne should give all followers ward

>>531290392
>>531290708
Excellent answers, no matter how simple they may be.

Has anyone played Shadowverse Evolved?

>>531291293
because artifact is currently so critically unable to kill anyone it actually loses to rune

>>531291298
Eho is Kaori?
:<

Reminder that gachabrains do not belong to /svg/ generals

>>531291146
Nyes around 0.5% per pack, always go for the leader, or visage set to join e-rp guild.
If you didn't claim 2000 rubies from invite code this code is the best W4msXGV desu

>>531290934
Fight board spam with board lock.

>>531290934
Just leave it there, with full barrier on field they literally can't trade to kill one so they can't play their Albert, it's a small-brained play that can only beat noobs that don't know how to play around it

>>531291393
Does Grubble count as a gacha?
:D

>>531291393
Don't kill me Anne I can dick you next after Grea

>>531291201
>park erp
this is the first time i'm hearing about this, when are the meetings

At this point I really doubt i'm even going to last until the second expansion when all this expansion doing is taking the current meta and making it even more bullshit.

>>531291293
Portal can already spam Castle if they actually wanted to.

>>531291393
but shadoba is gacha?

You're cutting Eudiuseless instead of Silvia retards

>>531291293
every other class has tempo plays that dont require evo out the ass
mid game if portal doesnt draw multiple alouette it has 0 tempo plays and the best you have is dropping 2/2s

>>531291440
it's over, the erp tranny already moved on to another game since this isn't a gacha they were hoping for

>>531291483
>What is a mana curve?

>>531291449
All the new cards revealed are massively weaker than current cards. Not even a single one comes closer to current Orchis.

>>531291449
just join the bad side and help killing the game further by stomping every single non-meta deck

>>531291414
>takes 7 dmg to the face

>>531291390
She's the default leader for runecraft.

>>531291472
It's CCG, while you open card packs similar to gacha games, it has actual gameplay. If you come to this thread to complain about events or dailies or rates then your brain is just wired wrong by gacha addiction.

>>531291483
Eudie is not even being run in Artifact, retard

>>531291518
Playing a 2pp artifact generator is a better use of 3pp than 3/3 do nothing

>>531291586
t. opaz

>>531291254
Card style is a bad idea because in 1 year the card won't be around anymore, but you'll still have the leader - they also usually have very nice evolve animations

>>531291604
Cutting low cost cards to replace them with high cost cards increases the probability of bricking, retard.

>>531291483
You don't run Eudie in Artifact(+Lovestruck+Orchis) deck.

>>531291393
My gacha has more gameplay than yours.

>>531291606
t. rash

>>531291572
Oh my Chintzy!
Shs is VERY pretty and I like her!
She has red hair xD
So.... it is not an upgrade....
What is csrd style?
Or else it is to the visage mines
X(

Most don't run Eudie for the same reason - You want to gather parts. A 3PP 3/3 draw a card looks appealing but you're screwed if you cannot bulid a 5PP during Alouette's turn

>>531291656
>hoyo
>gameplay
KEKYPOW

>>531291215
>The problem with Sylvia is she needs to use evo to actually be a threat
Why? You can leave it and evo it next turn if dumb opponent does not remove her

>>531291656
Gacha actionRPG players

>>531291658
t. ranny

>>531291693
you're even more screwed if you fail to draw orchis

>>531291656
that's a lot of particle effects and a very long hit combo just to do 1/380 health bars of damage the boss has

Inshallah

>>531291781
Why is she call Orchis
But in Grubble her name Orchid?
:<

I got the FA Eudie so I will run her as 3-of in every Portal deck
>but my netdec-
cope

Ralmia wins game btw
You would know if you weren't Topaz

>>531291656
VN slop with powermoney gated battles

>>531291693
you still play one or two eudies because failing to drop 3 health worth of followers on turn 3 is a death sentence against forest, sword and face dragon

>>531291719
That means they did literally nothing to get rid of your Alouette+1 last turn, by which you've probably won the game.

>>531291668
Card style just replaces the art for the card in question. It's best to get the leader since cards will phase out with rotations, leaders will always be there for you to pick, and play with. This is the old art, you can see the new art for the card you unlock in your earlier picture showing off the options for what you can trade your ticket in for.

>>531291781
webm related

Nobody thinks they are working hard to be good at the game more than rune players.

>portalbros just get another allouette

>>531290934
I miss bahamut

Yuuuurp going to play some zzz tomorrow night for spook shack kino and then the day after that play the new shadowverse expansion we are gaming the next two days will be great

>>531291891
>drop Eudie versus Forest
Not like it matters much

>>531291896
Do portal players have it so easy that they must always have clean enemy board and also threaten the opponent every turn?

>>531289765
how do I do that?
search for their names on social media?

>>531291827
Shadowverse has more retarded localizers than the other cygames?

Truth nuke : artifact is an unplayably bad archetype to play pure in the current set and is completely carried by orchis in all its current iterations. Them getting in-archetype good cards was inevitable and desirable.

>>531292028
every other class does that easily nigger

>>531291656
Post that one blindfold zzz gameplay

What even is the point of midrange if both artifact and rune can play both tall and wide while getting late game BS

>>531291827
In Japanese she's called オーキス in both games so it's probably just because the localizers named this character https://gbf.wiki/Queen_Orchis,_Erste_Kingdom_(NPC) Orchis instead.

>>531291483
I'll keep using my 3 Eudie copies thank you very much

>>531292082
Only rune/portal/sword

>>531292072
I'm sorry your money brain legitimately can not come up with a win-con for Artifact beside SEVO Orchis into another SEVO Orchis. Stay bad.

So orchis is getting nerfed right? How the fuck do I beat alouette, new guy, orchis orchis? Probably can win without even building gundam

>>531292013
I'd rather they use it now than them keeping it for the combo. Them losing a may early increases my odds. If they have may and bounce so be it, I played to my outs.

>>531291827
Grub iz not Rage of Bahamut

>>531291891
Bwo Miriam is a 2/3, and unless the opponent threw a 3 HP unit last turn it literally doesn't matter since they will still die if they attacked her.
Also it doesn't matter against Forest since you get hit by 2 Fairies + May anyway...

>>531291849
But VNs are based?
And more importantly ZZZ porn > Shadowverse porn (non existant)

>>531291215
Literally nobody said to use Sylvia over Karula. Karula is by far superior. My point was af portal didn’t have a gaping hole in their curve that they NEEDED karula. That card is gonna push portal to be so overpowered it’s not even funny. Literally one of the deck’s only weaknesses is now gone.

>>531291312
Is portal not allowed to have weaknesses or be forced to make tough decisions?

>>531292062
Orchid is the fan fiction name though.

>>531292189
Force them to make gamma or alpha instead of beta?

>>531292180
Post list topazGOD

>>531291891
you probably netdecked rikka
he actually plays eudie for the 10+ turn grind games that he goes for every game

>>531292213
Ohhhhh I remembaer baha blast game
It was.... uhh like a cookie clicker
So long ago they reuse the game card
Now a multimedia franchise!!!

>>531292295
How? As rune I don't have enough pressure early on to beat their early curve

>>531292292
>Play Orchid
>Her animation is literally an orchid flower blooming on the play field
?

>>531292345
>he doesnt draw ann grea
Then dont play rune
>he drew ann grea
gg you auto win

Why do you complain about a set 2 deck lmao

>let me just get one more ranekd win to get to 40 wins for the battle pass before I sleep
>3 hours later

Portal wins here, no Orchis needed
>b-b-but
Stay bad.

I still can't believe how badly they butchered HanaKana in SV2. Actually depressing and I might quit the game over just that alone.

>>531292245
Yes hello retard you can only play 3 miriams, that's why you add an eudie to increase odds of actually having a 3 drop from barely 50% to 65%
And you need to make forest play cards early so they don't drop goodwood for free
>>531292339
Both false statements

>>531292028
Because that's the main idea for a control deck?
Wincon for AF Portal is either Orchis or Gundam, both locked until late game. You want to have as much board control as possible until that time.

>>531292189
Is portal beating rune? Portal can beat literally any deck if they don't brick but so is rune, if there are 2 best decks in the game that are equally as strong then I'm sure they won't do shit even if all other decks just eat shit, rune can just fight portal while other bottom tier decks fight each other.

Rage of bahamutt stull exists?
>>531292441
What is Harikiri

>>531291056
>spend 2pp to remove 1 (one) ward
lol

https://youtu.be/enRv43LkOEA
Parachan say right now Rune looks like is gonna be a fall off in next set, he doesn't like the gold 3pp for spellboost too
Guy seems going to main Haven or Portal for next set since rune is going to be in a bad spot

I hate that artifact and puppet are stuck together. Should have made them into different classes instead of combining shadow and blood into abyss. Artifact doesn't deserve our cards!

>>531292104
It's changed because it's two characters with the same name but written slightly different. It's exactly the same reason why they had to change Lucifer to Lucilius. Since in japanese they have ruciferu and rucifaa. For Orchis they are Orukisu and Ohkisu.

New flowchart to pilot portal has dropped

>>531292426
You don't win shit from here tough

Karula SEVO also full clears Orchis while pinging 2 face damage and summoning either alpha to heal out of lethal or beta to setup lethal which is cool. He leaves 2 bodies to deal with unlike Sylvia.

>>531292472
So should portal get removal that requires no resources and also gives a body?

>>531292416
how is annegrea pressure
have you ever played rune

>>531292532
I'm sure /svg/ knows more about Rune than this guy. We all know the gold is broken.

>>531292213
>>531292349
In Japanese her name is オーキス in RoB, GBF and Shadowverse. Orchid would be オーキッド.

>>531292426
Master sword wins this
Diamond sword loses this

>>531292559
imagine playing ramp dragon into that

>>531292604
yes

Orchis

>>531290923
Not really besides haven becoming a real class, we're cooked.

>>531292620
pop quizz how do you answer anne & grea with alouette without leaving a body on the board ?
trick question : you don't !

Roach nerf when?

>>531292476
I can't beat portal as rune. They always have good drops early on and put me too behind on health. And if I heal I'm behind and portal gets to do whatever the fuck they want.

>>531290578
I listen to Isochronic tones.

>>531292461
The initial argument was about throwing out Eudie on turn 3 so you don't die early, and Miriam does just that. Miriam also force Forest to do 2 Fairies + May, same as Eudie.
Can you not butt in on others' conversation if you have no idea what's being talked about?

>>531292532
runenigger downplaying? no waaaay

Why no one talks about sword? Legit one of the most cancerous classes everybody is sleeping on, each one of their late game cards is a tempo swing on its own. I won't even start about Zirconia, literally most op gold card in the game.

Anybody free to be my friend and do 1 lobby match?

>>531292195
>implying they can't just bounce her back for more pings
First time fighting a dishonest craft?

>>531292568
>rune falling off
If true then next set meta will actually eos us with nothing to counter Willbert Aether Into Jeanne and the retardation that is Portal

>>531292784
>0-10d by rune

>>531292816
>playing around two cards turn 3

>>531292532
He literally says that Rune is going to be even stronger since Ward Haven is going to assrape forest and Rune counters Ward Haven. So the amount of bad matchups goes down and the amount of good matchups goes up.

>>531292784
because they're looking kinda meh in set 2, or better, they didn't get better while all their rivals did

and we complain plenty about them, fucking flowcharty mongoloids

>>531292784
my favorite is that their early drops double as lategame drops too because lol

So there's two days total of the Grand Prix final round right?
Guess I should entrap tanaka when he least suspects it

>>531292784
it's honest so no one cares
everyone hates rune and portal because they have pp cheat

Shes not op

>>531292559
How do you play around this as forest/abyss/dragon/sword? Clearing Alouette+Beta with an evo point is hard enough already because evo and hit can only clear Beta, leaving Alouette behind to hit you back.

>>531292656
Ok, lemme call cygames to print 6pp orchis that also gives puppets without sevo

>Reach Group A finals
>get completely BTFO and go 0-2
I now know how the Chiefs feel.

>>531292784
Its literally one of the weakest class you dumbfuck

>>531292691
why do we not have an ex area in sv2?

>>531290952
Impressive.

>>531292870
You OTK before the 2nd orchis hit the field

>>531292896
Except it's not dumbfuck

>>531292626
New Mandela effect just dropped.

>>531292880
no need
kmr already printed mid game removal that also leaves bodies already
because he knew thats what portal needed and deserved

>>531292776
if the consistency of a strategy wasn't even being considered in your conversation it wasn't a conversation worth having anyway

>>531292868
>8pp 6/6 unconditional boardflood give ward and rush to even neutrals is honest
kys

>>531292349
I guess the name is based on the flower but they wanted to add some originality or make it sound better pronounced in Japanese as a character name.

Last Rune lego reveal when

Who is the alternate haven leader?

>>531292604
Should they? Probably not.
Will they? Yes, so no use crying over spilled milk.
The conversation was never about whether Karula is healthy for the game or not, it was about what to replace in the deck for Karula.
If you want to cry about the injustice then do it somewhere, or at least don't go replying to posts and start your own.

>>531292849
And if you fail to build your artifacts in time, you get roached so Eudie is not helping