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>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/07-04-2025-update.70156/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be autistic.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlocked.wiki/
https://liquipedia.net/deadlock/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yfPHJsMrKcg_8wqa95qu0sOFxRdzKLF_eUWOZX7RLHc

Threadlocked: >>530782557

UPDATE

TOMORROW

End of service announcement tomorrow!

The black woman of Valve unoriginality.
These are TWO different characters.

Frank and Vampirebat are given, even on our client, their abilities work and have unique particle effects/sounds.
Priest is nearly done. Raven is rumored to be done in the secret client. Trapper and Slork might be done, they got pretty far in our client with them.

We might get 6 heroes.

>>531289616
I'll believe it when I see it

>>531289437
Their features are so vastly different

people whinging about dead game are either trolls or braindead doomers.
this game is the best competitive shooter that i've seen in probably 10 years and its in closed alpha, a relatively small roster of heroes, placeholder art, no progression. the only thing it has is the base gameplay, which is subject to change in a lot of ways, and its the most captivating, thrilling, interesting gameplay in any multiplayer game i've seen. there's a reason people are playing it even despite the low player count and bad matchmaking atm.

i work full time and this is the first time in 10 years since ive put over 400 hours in a game over the course of 6 months. its that good.
they are taking their time but they are absolutely fucking cooking. this game when it releases in a year or two will be phenomenal. im hyped

one thing i am worried about is that atm the hero priority thing is my favorite way to pick heroes in any competitive hero game so far. it takes the toxicity of instalocks and tilting shitty stubborn teammates out of the early game, but then it does mean that the team comp you end up with is basically pure chance. people keep saying that hero shooters need picks and bans and i probably agree, though that would introduce one of the more annoying parts of hero games back and i am saddened by the prospect.

gun ivy main btw fucking unnerf her

>>531291638
tl;dr

>>531291638
Good for you anon! I'm glad you're having fun
>>531292136
It's fun and they enjoy it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFtcLJVN8yg

>>531289616
How about visual reworks?

Update tomorrow but like actually
They love doing this, Counter Strike is getting season 3 with fuckall in it most likely while Deadlockbulls will feast

>>531296604
Valve hates Counter Strike IstG

I'm more excited to see how the map gets visually updated.

>>531297308
+1, I want to see prettier bases ans midboss arena

>>531297139
While it might be true every time the devs actually tried something fun the general playerbase hated it
>story and comics? who gives a shit?
>fun non competitive maps? Fuck off and bring back cobble/cache/dust2
>danger zone? what is this, fortnite?
>something other than M4, AK and AWP being viable? What is this, call of duty?

It's funny because even if there's a huge update nobody is gonna come back

>>531299197
Just like your father

>>531299197
Good.

>>531297139
Valve doesn't hate it, they hate the players

>>531299197
Like TF2, Overwatch or Marvel Rivals?

Trap, doorman and wrecker are the only not in the game hero's as of now that I care about.

I pray we get at least one of them

>>531299825
Tf2 had a long time on top same with Overwatch, Rivals still maintains a large playerbase, this game lost 95% of its players. Don't even like those games aside from Tf2 but this cope is just bizzare.

>>531300998
Bro Rivals is already dropping off if the bikini update does nothing for it then its donezo

>>531301558
Says it peaked at 150k players today if you consider that dead that days more about Deadlock than anything

>>531300998
I think you misunderstood, the point is that these games all had a falling off point and even with their updates to try and get players back it eventually all fizzled out, you can hold up any statistics you want but it's always going to fall back to that.
It's also a moot point to argue about this games """""numbers""""" since it doesn't count being in an open beta, it's only going to reflect once the game is actually out and has a fiscal year to go by and so on.

>>531303376
Its a natural state of any live service, see Helldivers Dota2, CSGO as some other examples, there was an all-time high which isnt growing anymore and those games have plateaued.
That anon implies that Deadlock not reaching good enough stable plateau is also a problem, but I don't know about this. I'd say the game staying away from modern audiences is a good thing, but does Valve think the same?

>>531302984
There are more people playing Palworld rn, funny cope to consider it still successful due to having more active players than a playtest lmao

>>531306082
even 10k CCU is successful, people are just addicted to making everything out as the next concord
marvel rivals isn't a failure because it stopped being the biggest game in the world, and deadlock isn't a failure for not maintaining top 10 numbers in alpha

How do you win a game when one teammate is playing so bad that it's basically a free win for the enemy. How do you go 1 11 on Lash?

>>531309167
He knows the game is going to die today so he doesn't care.

>>531309167
>How do you go 1 11 on Lash?
by thinking you're a hyperchad that can wipe the whole enemy team in 1 ult

>been playing new hero on new account
>up to oracle with 65% winrate in 100 games
>go back to main account that has fallen to ritualist-emissary because matchmaking is retarded for some reason
>get ritualist game
>13-0-13
>still lose because team is actually retarded

loving every game

>>531316186
I would've won that game, you just suck

>>531316461
probably

>>531316745
I blame all those abrams suicides on autoparry

>>531316837
about 25 minutes in someone on my team told the others they should be building resists and it took everything in me to not tell them that I had zero resists and was just positioning and dodging

>>531317395
Warden gets a lot of free resist from his ult, not to mention barrier

>>531317472
the real secret is movespeed

Insider here

Ivy will lose 1 stamina

Insider here

Ivy will have a shotgun

Outsider here, ivy will lose her gun completely and get a kudzu whip with an alt fire that latches onto a target and drains HP until your ammo runs out.

>>531318779
interesting idea for a melee only character who has a short ranged whip

Insider here, I'm out

Outsider here, I'm in

>>531318779
this but instead of draining hp you use it on your teammates to heal team
YOU WILL BE A SUPPORT AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY

>>531318779
>a kudzu whip with an alt fire that latches onto a target
just let her tether build up slow on enemies up to 100% while in range

>>531318779
Ok whatever go back to your rat infested whale dump

>melee only character
>can't deny souls
whoops

>>531318779
>>531318983
Wow so interesting, geists ability that already exists!

Played when the playerbase spiked and then dropped it for reasons. Want to know what the regulars think, is the game dead or do you believe it will come back. IMO it looks like something valve would drop and the playerbase that the genre overlap is targeting is too niche. What do you guys think?

>>531322140
it depends on the upcoming update
if the heroes they've spent 6 months on are shit, we might be fucked

>>531321979
No dipshit as in she uses a whip to attack from afar with increased melee range and like a charged altfire that give a heavy melee that doesn't require movement

>>531322365
Sounds retarded, glad it'll never happen

>>531322140
I can't see the future so I'll play this while its still present

>>531322965
yeah on ivy it's retarded but on a new hero who has a whip that has a shortish range and a tiny hitbox for it that is all melee damage would be cool

>>531322140
>Played when the playerbase spiked and then dropped it for reasons
so you're a bandwagoner that slurps up popular streamer bait
cool

patch status lockbabs?

>>531323180
I played it as soon as I got an invite, should I have picked it up earlier somehow?

>>531322140
Depends on if they add appealing and attractive heroes soon. We are fucked if we get even one more DEI sloppa hero.

is it DEI if they give Ivy a penis?

>>531323545
Yes

>>531323545
yes
i got an invite on may when it had less than 1k players

>hop on main account
>stuck in emissary/ritualist loop
>hop on alt
>gets into oracle easily
what the fuck?

>>531322140
>add custom game support
>add casual game mode
>add steam market cosmetics
>add garbage muh competitive shit
>make one or two cinematics
Deadlock will coast

I was on vacation for two weeks, anything change with this game?

why the fuck do people think that update today/tomorrow/thursday

>>531326410
Store Page Files got updated

>>531326507
what's that

>>531326410
Tuesday or Thursday is when Valve drops big updates for most of their things

>>531325167
They're using some sort of algorithm that loops into a negative feedback and they still haven't realized it

kind of insane really, nobody must be looking at the actual code for the matchmaking and instead they're just asking some retard who says his baby is perfect

>we have wait another six months for the drifter and doorman, the most visually kino designs


noooooo

>be lead coder for matchmaking algo
>create a system that is pretty good for 75% of the casual players aka anyone in the office who tests it in a stack or otherwise
>for solo queue the system turns into a self feedback loop race to the bottom using behavior score and engagement based matchmaking
>bosses look in your office and ask you if something is wrong because players with over 1000 games and tons of established skill in previous stages of the game are mentioning how they've basically fallen below the trench but on a new account they easily queue above it
>tell your bosses nothing is wrong because you don't know how to fix it

>get a chatgpt win
>losers can't deal with it

AI stays winning baby

>>531326561
the steam banner image like when the 4 hero update put calicos ugly mug front and center

>>531327107
>>tell your bosses nothing is wrong because you don't know how to fix it
this happens because matchmaking doesn't track player performance patterns
ideally the system is supposed to detect sudden spikes or drops in performance compared to average to detect smurfs/cheaters and correct for individual vs team stats

https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/07-15-2025-update.70157/
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/07-15-2025-update.70157/
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/07-15-2025-update.70157/

>>531328558
>You do not have permission to view this page or perform this action.
well...

>>531328558
>Removed soul orb mechanic
>Last hitting a trooper now provides the souls previously given by soul orbs
>The Urn now contains all the unsecured souls of troopers that died without being last hit
HOLY SHIT BOYS ITS HAPPENINGGGGG LETS GOOOOO

>>531328558
I'm not reading all that, holy fuck

>>531328558
>no permisson instead of doesn't exists
habbening fr

update this wednesday, it includes one new updated model and its not who you think, thats all i can say

>>531330118
>one new updated model and its not who you think
90% of the chraracters still have NP models

game just reinstalled msvc and direct x for some reason

>>531327076
How do you know Nigger

>>531329105
SEND SCREENSHOT

>>531328558
>>531332837
Baited, patch posts are public and you shouldn't get a login error when trying to view them without an account.

Update isn't coming, they're announcing that they're turning Deadlock into a card game

Metro said that the SteamDB Store Asset thingy doesn't mean shit because they do that every time they change stuff in the experimental build. Same guy that predicted the item shop rework months ago due to having insider knowledge

>>531334331
not bait, if it was a fake post it'd say that it doesn't exists but it says you don't have permisson to see the post which means it is a real post and they are probably looking it over or waiting until they are fully ready to push the update to release it as a public post

>>531335110
bullshit
we can track when they do that and it's always coincided with major updates
we can also tell when they update the experimental client and it's not marked as a store asset update
metro also said two weeks ago that a huge balance update that fixed the game and gigabuffed pocket would come out on Tuesday, and he was full of shit

>>531335110
The "SteamDB Store Asset thingy" was not for the experimental client, it was for the main client. And it was specifically for adding store assets i.e. update/blog images.
No shit they need to add packages when they update the experimental build. But that's not what people are even talking about.

>>531335110
>Metro said
I pooped

frogcacas have taken over the forums...

>>531297139
CS players literally don't want CS to change.

Yoshi unironically just confirmed the patch still needs time, check the Discord

yoshi said something about gym showers and then said the patch was delayed

DeadlockSisters its over...

at least we know there's a major patch coming, r-right?

>>531346289
No tranny flags? Fake image

>>531346289
>working on all the content
they're adding the rest of the roster

>that ivy with like 2000 games who always changes their names to variations of kitty or meow is actually using walls and maybe even aimbotting

embarassing

>>531346938
clearly they don't think anyone is going to come back if they release 1-2 heroes so we're going to get a truckload of untested imba heroes at the same time with a draft mode

>>531347127
seems likely

>>531343789
this inside joke has been certified to burn local

>>531347127
>draft mode
great 5 more minutes before every match in my beta test

>>531347439
you will be testing the draft system

>>531346289
>it's real
FUCK

>>531346289
damn, now this game really is dead.

I told you last thread when patch was coming out but you didn't listen.

>>531291638
What is the original Reddit post you copy pasted from I wanna see the comments

>>531346710
its right there

statlockers system is confirmed retarded brawl simulator, absolutely terrible, is there any other website now that tracklock and statlocker are both dogshit?

for reference I've had nothing but archon-phantom games for weeks on a new account but it's ranking me in ritualist because of 30 games on a meme build on a different hero when I created the account lol

DYNAMO'S ULT SHOULD BE FUCKING NERFED ASAP

I mean there's Mo who can only grab one enemy, there's Paradox, Holliday - same story. Then there's Lash, but you can ran away from him while he's casting. FUCKING DYNAMO has no casting time, it does damage, and you can't escape with your whole team. Fuck Dynamo!

Make captured players invincible to any type of damage that is coming from anybody else but Dynamo, or at least make them invincible to any gun damage from other players. It's fucking logical, because bullets also should be sucked in the blackhole, they shouldn't do damage.

Call Yoshi or just copypast it to him or whatever

>seething about a consistently c tier character
lmao!

>>531346289
How many times, retards?
How many times do you need to be teached this lesson?

>>531351843
it has a 12 hour long cooldown
if you can't play against that you have already had your brain nerfed

Are Spirit Shredder Bullets good on Dynamo? Been using them early on him since a few matches and I feel like it's comfortable but I don't know if it's a placebo

>>531346289
T-Thursday right???

how long until this valve pulls the plug like they did with Artifact?

>>531359971
Probably next patch.

>>531358889
the way it's phrased makes it sound like there won't be a patch for at the very least a week

next update they will add 3-4 broken heroes and the matchmaking will still be shit (probably worse somehow) and the meta will still be to farm for 20 minutes straight. they will steadily lose 4k more players and then pull the plug on the game after a few months. shortly after several video essays on the topic ("what went wrong?") will be released. I am from the future btw

>>531359971
You guys ask this question every week lmao

reminder that ALL heroes are balanced and if you criticize even a single one you are poop rank. I am eternus 7 btw therefore my opinion is worth more

>>531354503
>teached

>>531362363
I'm Eternus 8 and Shiv, Mcginnis, and Seven need to be removed from the game in my objectice opinion

>>531358889
>>531361079
Might be an August deal.

I am Eternus 69 and Wraith and Calico are my wives in my objective reality

>>531362075
because every week the game loses players

Left 4 Dead 2 has 4 times more players. That game not only is not free, it came out before you were bornj.

>>531362363
>enemy team has haze, infernus, abrams, and warden
The leave penalty will be a better use of 15 minutes

>>531361079
Nothing there says a week long wait, schizo.

>>531362363
Your mom balanced her fat titties on my cock you stinky faggot


btw if you actually play this game you're no better than all the literal subhuman 75 iq russians that play all valve games

>>531363158
i mean if it was in 2 days i feel like he'd go "it's almost done just a few more touchs ups" instead of "we are actively working on all the content"

DEADLOCK KART IS REAL

new hero release sometime in summer 2026

>Valve keeps nerfing things that aid in a team "starting" a Snowball
>None of this addresses the ACTUAL issue which is that as soon as the Snowball starts, you can do literally nothing to prevent it. Meaning the nerfs do nothing but delay the inevitable

>>531365237
>game puts shiv and viper on enemy team
>lose 95% of the time

Why did they have to make this game a MOBA instead of actually innovating and making something new?

As soon as someone else makes a non BR shooter with similar movement, this game is going tits up because there's no reason to farm NPCs for 40 minutes when you can just play a game that has you fighting all the time with no snowballing. There's a reason this genre is dead but fuck it who cares, let's just remake DOTA again and go through the motions for 15 years

This ability doesn't need charges to be incredibly potent

>>531362363
I am Eternus 9 and I approve this message

>>531368303
why does napalm have charges to begin with?

>>531362571
it is quite sad that an indian is able to see what the people in this general apparently can't. how delusional do you have to be, really?

found another aimbotter
https://statlocker.gg/profile/1093433932/matches

>>531374194
>Game targets Russians and Chinks
>cheating is rampant

woooooowwww

I like the items and builds, I like the hero abilities, I like the objectives. Farming sucks so much its so boring. There has to be a way to slowly build up power and items without spending half or most of the game shooting npcs and breaking boxes

surely they have some new features for us and we aren't waiting three months for 4 heroes that were basically ready in the shop update

>>531376778
copium is a significant balance patch to go with the heroes and maybe a pick phase

>>531376778
They did it with Caligga and the other 3, I wouldn't be surprised.

I feel like Yoshi is fucking with us and its comjng this thursday

this yoshi entity is strange. it plays games with us and hates us by turns. sometimes it is friendly, other times it wishes to see us destroyed

>>531342485
nah
new smokes are dope, new maps are cool (if done right), mollies are nice
whats not cool are shit changes, like agent skins or subtick introducing a shitload of unintended side-effects (weird movement, hitreg, dying behind walls etc) and ofc no fucking anticheat
hoping we get cache at least (and with no window on ct-side middle, fuck that shit)

The hero I'm playing feels good to play so I kinda don't care, whatever Yoshi does as long he doesn't touch Abrams I'll be fine with

I'm happy Yoshi left Nintendo and got hired at Valve, good for him

>it's seething about subtick for little reason other than it doesn't understand it
why are cs players like this? no wonder valve loathes working on cs.

>>531323390
yoshi said it's not today and they are making a major patch

>>531383103
idk why they dont "release" the heroes that are in hero-labs for like half a year already

>>531383290
Probably because the labs heroes fucking suck. The bigger question is why don't they just close the hero labs? Nobody plays them, and they already have their experimental build

>>531384575
closing the labs is more work than not closing the labs and it would make retards panic

>>531385315
free game no bitching

https://x.com/Pauzelock/status/1945250514075021634

OH NO NO NO NO
OPEN BETA????

>>531385612
We invest time and hope

I feel like I've heard from somewhere "You can't balance for both Competitive and Casual play"
Pretty sure that's fucking bullshit, but even then, your fucking idea of balance is to just let High level players get whatever they want while lower levels suffer the most unbalanced shit fest ever?

>>531376778
is that vyper

nobody is clicking xigger links you dumb fag, post your bait in full or fuck off

the closer we get to open beta the closer we'll ran out of hopium bros
i'm seriously starting to doubt we'll be able to maintain a good amount of players once this goes public

>>531382193
>hoping we get cache at least (and with no window on ct-side middle, fuck that shit)
no cache, rip

>>531382193
i gotta be honest i still don't understand why valve decided to juryrig fucking subtick servers rather than just bite the bullet and make higher tick ones

>>531386202
Preparing for open beta would explain why they were updating the store page assets yesterday without an imminent update. I really hope they aren't retarded enough to launch all the new heroes and a draft mode into an open beta, but who knows. CS2 got pushed out the door a year before it was ready and that "worked out" for them.

>>531387405
no idea honestly, the pc you need to run cs2 smoothly at high fps is guaranteed to be able to run 128 tick easily too, so the spec-argument (we want to make the game accessible for everyone) is kinda moot

I'm a man, but I want to have straight sex with Abrams.

>Haze is one of if, not the worst gun-focused hero in the game
>Bebop's hook doesn't work in an OTS shooter format, it's significantly more difficult to account for Bebop's line of sight and 1 hook can win a game
>Seven is not as good as people say he is, because his win rate is skewed up by people with dogshit movement and positioning
>Abrams is a bad hero for the same reason, when people are good at movement and positioning his WR will collapse
>There needs to be a Techies-esque retard hero and casual modes with goofy maps
>Wraith should have rapid fire shotguns that go out to mid range and crit in close range, and her teleport should be a 3 charge instant blink forward with no time delay between charges
>Haze should have a grapple gun instead of smoke bomb
>There should be an item like Dagon that can be upgraded

>>531376778
Sorry, the real beta testers need more time having fun with skydancer without us. Please understand, we will get slork as is and wrecker with nothing changed and hero labs will shut down but raven and trapper wont be put in the game please under stand

>there needs to be a techies hero

No

>seven is actually weak despite his 60 percent WR

retard

>>531387420
>>531386202

it better not be open beta
game is far from ready for that

>>531393773
>game is far from ready for that
>the 7 month old build that has had no major updates that where not already done for at least 4 months and even then where tiny ass chunks of bigger whole is not ready for open beta
>the test we have is the whole game and the game is so not ready
>I'm sure if they started open beta right now they would use the old build not the new one with 10+ hero's, hero progression, art pass and god knows what else

This is you

>>531394856

it still wouldnt be ready
if valve had 500 employees with half of them on deadlock the past year then maybe

>tag game mode for deadlock

Kino?

>>531361752
the matchmaking actually gets better on major patches because so many people play that they can actually pad out your poo ranks where you're currently hardstuck

>major content next patch

deadlock kart
deadlock tag team tournament
deadlock mega microgames!
deadlock gacha

next hero release: winter 2026

>>531398536
>>531396264
any new game mode that isnt assfaggots shit would be welcome

>People actually downplay Abrams and Seven
I mean Abrams is only recently extremely strong but Seven has been bullshit broken for the longest time, why is everyone here obsessed with downplaying? Is the general just full of meta abusers?

>play 'brams
>enemy team doesnt parry
>high archon
>play 'brams
>enemy team feels like they are auto parrying
>low ritualist
huh

can you take me higher lash?

>>531387405
it's literally doubling your server expenses for little improvement that'll only be noooticed by the grognardest of grognards. 64 tick is more than enough, and quite generous too since a lot of games run off of 20 tick or lower.

>finally have a good game
>it's a whole rank higher on average than my usual
wow it's almost like you're not playing with smurfs and your team actually knows how to macro
crazy

>>531399468
>>531404230
literally echoing my sentiment, ranks are fucked

how do they expect player retention when characters like seven, infernus, and shiv exist? you get magic 4'd or napalm dumped and who wants to play this game again?

This game desperately needs some sort of solo lane option. Mid is literally the most popular role in any moba imaginable, yet volvo managed to fuck it up so bad that they had to force duo lane. Hint: giganerf supportoids so that they and their buttbuddy are 2-3 levels behind us soloCHADS.

>>531387106
Pretty much how I feel. Slowly realizing that this 'open beta mega patch' isn't magically going to bring back the playerbase.
Think this is simply going to be a game that quietly gets shelved and will forever have a dedicated playerbase of ~5k.

excited to add vampirebat as my gold pick instead of dynamo. dynamo will move to silver and bebop will be left to collect dust.

given 11 losses in a row. yeah i'm done, maybe the matchmaking will work when there's more than 5k players

>>531408265
if we reach 1.0 with finished art and mod support, and the game still dies, I'll at least be happy for what we got.

>>531387106
I think you're underestimating the amount of control valve has over the pc gaming market. if they want this to succeed it will, it could be a 40 minute nerve gas simulator and would still attract a huge playerbase and make tons of dosh off cosmetics if valve forces it to the front of their monopoly store.

>>531410174
This, people love to cry Artifact constantly in these threads, but the fact is the developers working on Artifact didn't enjoy what they were doing so it was shelved. If insider reports have a grain of truth to them the team that works on Deadlock is obsessed with it to the point of failing to hit development goals because they are too busy with their inhouses. There is clearly a lot of passion behind this project, I doubt it's going anywhere.

>>531410174
the last time they did a "real" multiplayer game launch was dota 2 which had a pre-existing fanbase so I'm not convinced it's a guaranteed hit, but there's no way they can fuck it up as badly as artifact (worst monetization known to man on top of an entry fee) or underlords (flavor of the month bandwagon)

>>531408265
No one is expecting the hero update to bring back tons of players

Everyone agrees that Valve shouldnt do an open beta for this unless its a full fat 1.0 release with all the bells and whistles you expect from it

>>531410396
>If insider reports have a grain of truth to them the team that works on Deadlock is obsessed with it
>There is clearly a lot of passion behind this project
it genuinely feels like the opposite. I don't think that's true bro sorry to say

>>531410624
Underlords was honestly such an insane blunder. I still think about it and it baffles me.

>remove controlling the courier to fuck around while all the boring shit is happening
>Introduce Underlords which just fuck everything up instead of the 1:1 port
>Get absolutely mogged by Riot AGAIN

And all of this is a fucking shame because the game was actually fun beneath all of that.

>>531411797
There are multiple devs that you can see using the forums constantly and some of them are using it literally in the middle of the night.

>>531406728
Shiv has been fucking unbearable this patch and I don’t even know what they changed to make this so.

>>531413186
mystic regeneration, same thing that is making mirage a complete pain in the ass to play against. gives them hp regen stacks that makes every trade in their favor, and you have to commit with at least 2-3 people to kill a competent shiv (and hope their lane partner is bad)

When seven upgrades his gun, he says "I don't fear numbers"
This is a clear reference to how 7 8 9
Bravo valve

>>531416503
We need a Shiv edit with Grey talon in the background

>>531409249
>reposting mediocre clips
we've hit a new low

Valve needs to add female characters with unconventional yet appealing body types.

>>531421202
What if Bookworm was a spider person, is that unconventional enough

>>531410624
Last muiltplayer launch was counter strike 2

>>531412934
The last of updates/progress over the past YEAR kind of says otherwise... unless your saying that them loving deadlock to much is the reason its not getting worked on?

>>531423180
Looks ugly as sin.

>>531423180
She's gonna be a worm-person.

>>531423180
But she is called bookworm and not bookspider? Are you retarded?

>Pick McChicken
>easy win every time

wow

>>531409808
Why is Lady Geist so attracted to Shiv?

>>531427240
Pomp

>>531427240
So am I, what a coincidence

>>531403491
it's a multibillion dollar company and cs is one of the biggest esports in the market you fucking retard, what kind of excuse is that?

>>531424990
That's what my main hope is
>>531425879
Tell that to the artist genius, also love that juxtapositions don't exist in your mind

>10 spectators in my last match
>was probably one of the very top listed matches at the moment
>was tilted really hard because my abrams went and lost 90% of his hp in a trade at minute 0 and he spent the rest of the laning phase sitting way in the back slowly trying to regen his hp passively
>we lost tower at like minute 3
why couldn't i get a god abrams this one fucking time when all eyes are on us

>>531430089
why the fuck would anyone watch someone's match?

>>531430212
ask those 10 people idk, i dont spectate

leakfag here ask any questions and I will answer you

>>531431281
Leak the models cuck

>>531431281
>ask any questions and I will answer you
what's your SSN?

>>531431281
Leaking already? Pathetic loser I haven't even touched you yet

>>531431281
If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

>>531431281
What are some surprising changes we didn't expect?

>>531431281
Are there any other characters outside of the first leak being tested we don't know yet?
How are their playstyles?
And has their been any new additions to the current map or any new ones for that matter?

>>531434441
There's the succubus and the druid apparently

>>531435607
They're adding Syllabear????

Holy fuck watching old videos of 4 lanes makes me so sad, the gameplay was so much more fun and dynamic now you're just isolated strapped to whatever retard the dogshit matchmaking decides to give you.

>>531439775
yep, the move to 3 lanes was mindboggling

>>531439775
>>531440014
the only interesting part of four lanes was the map layout with the big museum in the middle

the actual laning was shit

>>531440307
3 lanes is worse and didn't fix anything, they should have stuck with 4 lanes and tried to tweak it to be better.

>>531440641
4 lanes? More like 2 complaining retards and 4 brawling idiots in the middle with noone actually pushing, no thanks

>>531440641
Did you forget how much they fucked with soul shit last year?

They barely do it anymore after 3 lanes

>>531441249
This is literally something that happens now and it's much more severe, now there's a constant deathball / fight going on and true splitpushing and 1v1s are dead

>>531387106
Open beta is the resident silkposing. Ignore beta posters, don't reply to beta posters

>>531441404
>constant deathball / fight going on
Good
>true splitpushing and 1v1s are dead
Even better

Why can't they just remove mystic regeneration?

>>531441882
It's the replacement for the old T1 infuser. Resto shot is finally in a good enough place to compete with it, arguably better since you don't have to put anything on cooldown to use it.

>>531421202
thats vindictas bodytype

>lobby was bugged
>enemy team had 3 retards
>try to search again
>2 retards in your team now
>15 deaths each

>>531442020
>remove/rearrange problem item
>introduce new problem item
>intended use is for characters like geist, but instead makes the two most powerful and obnoxious meta characters even worse

vote 1 - needs redesign or removal

>>531444825
honestly i would rather have them rework the passive gun ability of both infernus and mirage instead

How I fucking hate infernus cunt champ played by cunts

Time to start calling my junglers niggers again!

>>531442020
Yeah, I think the intent here was for a spirit equivalent for resto shot, but it just ended up boosting Mirage and Infernus.

>>531445332
>Djinn's Mark: Now deals 10 bullet damage instead of spirit damage
>Djinn's Mark: T2 from +9 Base Damage to +10 spirit damage

Why this thread has people complaining about mystic regen on heroes that it absolutely fucking sucks on? It's only worth the money on Geist (also the only hero that it's ever worth upgrading on because it offsets the downsides of casting spells on her) and Mirage (because he can easily keep it up on two people at once, though the upgrade is again dogshit). Literally any other hero would be better off buying extra regen or resto shot. And when it comes to the upgrade there's never a single instance where buying it is better than bullet/spirit lifesteal depending on the hero. Shiv with radiant regeneration? Well done retard that's 3k souls that could've gone towards leech (even just spirit or bullet lifesteal alone is more healing than rediant regen on Shiv, Infernus etc.). I truly I don't get idgi it

>>531451183
you could've just said
>i am a shitter
instead of writing all that

>>531452140
>you could've just said
>>i am a shitter
>instead of writing all that
Geist is the only hero that builds that item in Eternus games now so... not really

>>531445332
Every passive on-hit ability should be removed

>>531444396
Had two guys instantly start bitching since one of them was a feeder last game. So I swapped one of these guys to my lane and they stopped arguing, game was close but we cooperated and won in the end.
Try to take the situation in your own hands, its not a 100% solution but if it works it works, you have to be the biggest man in the room when given the opportunity. This shit wins you games

Leakfag here again, this time with ACTUAL facts. So listen up, fellas... you're in for an absolute gem!

Next update Ivy will get her remodel with a huge ass (including jiggle physics) and a skimpy little dress. She moans pleasurably whenever you do more than 150 damage on her. Sometimes, she even braaps.

Infernus is now Infeedus and his ult does 5 times more damage but kills him instantly. Abrams is now a Minion-colored yellow. Furthermore, Seven sits in in a wheelchair and his new ult is a lightspeed wheelchair ram.

The shopkeeper will now call your character slurs from time to time. Also new items like Scrotum Scroll, Abortion Amulet, Hag Hex & have been added. Another item lets you pause the game once every minute.

Instead of jungle farming creeps, you take side quests from NPCs and solve puzzles. Midboss has been removed and replaced by a Mario Party-esque 6v6 minigame.

After 30:00 minutes if nobody has won, a Battle Royale-like circle forms and gets smaller and smaller over time.

Also an experimental extraction mode was added.

>>531457017
>Sometimes, she even braaps

>>531457017
>Instead of jungle farming creeps, you take side quests from NPCs and solve puzzles. Midboss has been removed and replaced by a Mario Party-esque 6v6 minigame.
I want them to do this unironically and completely out of the blue - no mentions of it to insiders or tests in the experimental build, just push it to both playerbases and never change or remove it.
It'd fuck the game forever, but the seethe would be legendary

>>531457017
>his ult does 5 times more damage but kills him instantly.
that's actually kino though

Deadlock movement is too kino

Whats the best game mode for it?

>>531460851
deadlock kart, ricochet 2

>>531460851
something like hns from 1.6?

Reminder: Predecessor did all of the things that the community said would make it gain players. They added tons of skins, grindable currencies, ranked systems, other game modes, and tons of balance changes.....

Annnnnd the game has even less players now than when it launched. People are over MOBAs, it doesn't matter who makes it. There's no more room for more MOBAs, just like there's no room for new tacshooters which is why all the new ones flop in a few months.

>>531457017
>Instead of jungle farming creeps, you take side quests from NPCs and solve puzzles. Midboss has been removed and replaced by a Mario Party-esque 6v6 minigame.
The change we need and every afk farming haze deserves

>>531463523
It's a hybrid, it's something else entirely. Also don't do the reddit spacing or the "aaaaand" shit

>>531464323
Don't tell me how to type, nigger

>>531463523
>Predecessor
who
>skins, grindable currencies, ranked systems
who cares about these
>other game modes
only relevant if the base game is good
>and tons of balance changes
only worth it if they are good, dont trust reddit with balancing

useless devs

>>531382193
>>hitreg
I shoot this guy in the skull and the game visually shows the dinked head spark effect and just pretends like nothing landed. Kinda puts me off playing between looking back at shit like this and fags clear as day wallhacking every 2-3 games.

>>531463523
Predecessor wasn't new you stupid nigger, it was like the 10th attempt by retards to remake Paragon which was the MOBA people actually cared about except Ebin Games had just given birth to Fortnite and opted to just let people rape Paragon's corpse as a result and while we're on the topic Paragon was also just a shitty MOBA to start with the most generic sort of look and general aesthetic. Nothing new. Felt like an early 2010s Xbox title.

>>531465759
>Nothing new.
ermmm paragon WAS unique in the verticality that the map had, otherwise the only other moba that was 3rd person at the time was smite which hilariously enough would end up mogging it for the next few years after release.

>>531466004
paragons verticality was barely noteable. deadlock is the first real 3d moba

I feel like the real thing that kills games is the lack of SOVL, anon mentioned fortnite and it feels like that game buckbroke the industry into wanting epic quirky skin collabs with licensed characters and sacrifice their game's atmosphere for profits...,.. so as long as deadlock never sells out and i dont have to see a spongebob shiv, i'm good

SpongeBob shiv sounds kino, I'm gonna recommend it in the forums

>>531463523
predecessor spent the last year slowly rolling out content that ebin games already created for paragon, a game that already failed twice before
name one character from paragon without looking it up, you can't

>>531466370
oh well yeah, im not saying it was actual verticality but that is probably the only unique selling point that game had even if it was beyond minimal

Which heroes below eternus can solo 1v6 the whole game?

>>531467869
All of them, retard

>>531467864
Paragon had cool-looking heroes, but its mechanics were fairly basic, its assentially just another smite

>the whole enemy team disconnects mid-game
what the fuck
did someone get nuked?

>>531470054
This nigga playing against Palestinian children

I want to play more warden but I'm 11-0 with him and deathly afraid of ruining my win streak. I want it to last forever...

another game, another 14-3 shiv, wake me when mystic regen is removed in a hotfix

>>531471046
It's already in a nerfed state, I usually don't even bother getting it

>>531444825
Geist is a boosted metashitter hero.

>>531472667
That item is shit on everyone except Geist now

>>531472667
>this item is actually bad nobody uses it
>game loses another thousand or two thousand players

oh well

First deadlock related dream was a harrowing nightmare

>Losing all game
>Team steals rejuv
>Have to stall the enemy team at our weakened patron
>I doubletap 4 and dome/undome our patron
>It instantly melts
>4 people type Kelvin in chat

Fuck picking up Kelvin, I can never hard carry games

>>531472998
You're the tier of player that loses to people who play Shiv and only hold Q retard

>>531473208
no, it's usually my side lanes blowing up to shiv and then he saunters in with 7 kill streak and is more or less unkillable. but hey, put your head in the sand and pretend it's not a problem, that always works out

>>531473160
You guys remember the long ass winter break where it genuinely seemed like the game would die off because Valve wasn't pushing shit? I had like two dreams where they pushed big updates and woke up so disappointed twice. I hate this game.

With all these unkillable fucks running around I'm noticing the lack of gun options now

Isn't like 70% of the roster spirit/ability focused heroes? Have we already run into a design wall with m1/gun characters, with Vyper being the most interesting design you can give a gun guy?

>>531460851
Deadcock movement isn't even good after they nerfed it.

do you guys just not ever counterbuild or something

>>531476804
I wish weighted shots gave a much larger damage bonus in exchange for lowering your firerate, but I guess that's what express shot is for.

>>531476970
This, half the time my team struggles against a "broken" character, I do not see a single counter item in their build. Sole exception for this was prime Calico I think, that bitch genuinely just did whatever she felt like doing

>>531479750
removal of slots makes it harder to counter build, I've been tinkering with it and even going 2 CC slots cuts way too much into damage or tankiness to be viable.

I think slowing hex and KD both need buffs

>>531427240
cuz he's THAT cool

>>531477180
weapon damage bonus in general is in the complete shitter, every gun hero focuses on fire rate now

i swear to god this game has the same shitty netcode as cs2
literally getting staked 2s in the past and shot behind walls its insane

>>531476804
>end of 2024
>GUN IS TOO OP
>MYSTIC SUCKS JUST CLICK HEAD GAME FOR FPSTARDS
>mid 2025
>REEEEEE TOO MUCH MYSTIC
>WHERE DID ALL THE COOL GUN CHARS GO

>>531479750
The amount of times I've had someone shit themselves over Shiv or Infernus and then visibly have the wheels turn in their head when you tell them debuff reducer is asburd
>>531480305
>removal of slots makes it harder to counter build
The removal of slots actually makes it easier, you aren't constrained at all to having 4 of each type of item.

>>531476970
I do but it gnaws at my soul. I like the 1600 emblem because it gives a few bonuses but the 3200...

>>531483258
Yeah but it takes a slot and slows me down to my dmg items

>>531476804
>unkillable fucks
this game is being balanced around the mmr where people don't miss their shots, gun is still OP, shitters who couldn't aim just getting fucked now that spirit is scaling a little better

>JUST COUNTER BUILD THEIR ENTIRE TEAM BRO
>team too shitty to take advantage of specific CC
>end up completely gimping yourself

bro just give slowing hex a slightly larger cast range and .5s longer movement CC, that's it

>pick mo
>losing and feel like my teammates don't follow up on any of my combos
>check post game damage
>did more damage than 4 of my teammates
>phantom 6~ game
JUST SHOOT THE GUY THAT CANT FUCKING MOOOOOVE

>>531477180
>>531483009
>>531483806

my bad, I meant to specify gun characters

theres like 5 gun characters in the entire game

>Play a fun character that doesnt shit out damage
>Lose and don't have fun
>Play a boring broken character that shits out damage and never dies
>Stomp every game for free and have fun
bros..

>>531487845
the only heroes who can't gunmax are mo and krill, maybe lash/calico

>>531488247
lash actually has gun buffs on his abilities and can make for a good rat build, gun lash was meta ay some point iirc
calico and mokrill's guns are just shit though, and mokrill's burrow and ult make it so you can't even use it most of the time during a fight so why bother building it

>>531488534
calico and krill can still use their guns effectively as burst characters but they can't use the default gun builds that everyone else does
they tried having heroes with objectively bad guns earlier in the test like launch viscous, but moved towards everyone's gun being at least useful

>>531483731
Yes that's how you're supposed to play the game though, if you can't get enough souls because you're being oppressed it means you shouldn't be rushing to get damage because by the time you DO get damage you're already outscaled by the fuck that's been keeping you on the backline the entire time. Why is that so hard for ranklets to understand?

>mirage goes 1-7
>immediately hits power spike and goes 17-7

great game dotards

copium

maybe he wouldn't hit the power spike if you kept killing him knowing he was easy meal at 1-7 but im sure the team just let him stay in a lane alone for 10 minutes to catch up

>>531489752
What is that bottom right image? Something for mod detection? Are they gonna start preventing people from using skins?

>>531489941
mods are the strings for items because the game used to be scifi

>>531489752
Kind of unrelated but what's up with this page? I've seen them a few times on X (formerly Twitter) and it feels like its ran by an AI chatbot or some ESL in a third world country. They posted some weird merch thing and people asked about it and they just kept directing people to some Telegram page. They're not wrong usually, but they just feel off.

>>531490193
>it feels like its ran by an AI chatbot or some ESL in a third world country
russians and slavs

>>531473471
>g-guys its all my teams and developer's fault I'm the good wholesome chungus p-player I can't be wrong

>>531476970
Today I told our Warden to build Plated Armor against fed Seven (also Wraith, Haze and Infernus on the enemy team) and he actually did. This was a religious experience

>>531388763
Get in line

>>531491246
The sooner more people realize that you can just do this at any point in any of your games, the better it feels spiritually to play this game

>>531491471
Hot damn, is this a coomer model or his real one without a coat?

>>531491246
>>531491538
A 6k item gets countered by armor piercing

>>531491538
Thats why Im usually building smth myself then telling people to do the same, leading by example is the way

>>531491850
coomer model

>>531490972
>there's nothing wrong with the game all those people just left because deadlock is too high IQ

new meta is shit, what else is new? and then the new patch comes out and you scream "finally the past meta was dogshit we're eating good bros!"

>>531488247
their kits aren't based around having a gun like haze, mirage, vyper, infernus

>>531492082
If you build that item before the enemy has APR then they have to now take the time to counter build your counter build. Why is this so hard to understand? If your rebuttal to that is that they'll just buy it before you then it means they immediately early stomped you and no one bothered to rotate or deal with the person that was clearly becoming an issue, snowballing, etc. Gun isn't even the meta right now anyways.

Valve needs to add a hero with a fox motif.

>>531492801
>>531492082
myth
its the other way around

>>531492967
they cancel each-other out

evens i play deadlock
odds i play valheim

9/10 of my last games had shiv on the enemy team

retarded game retarded system I'm retarded for playing it still

>>531492082
I'd love to see 3-4 enemy players spend 6k each to counter me paying 6k once

>>531492185
Cry about it, the real problem is always (you)

>>531482881
the stake has a vortex effect they patched in a while ago which makes it easier to hit and it pulls you back, plus a big t3 upgrade & mystic range imbue makes it brutal

>>531493710
You will never escape the 'Lock

>>531492910
kitsune doesnt really fit the motif

>>531494324
Stop feeding resident animenigger

>>531494324
nta but fluffy kitsune fits the deadlock artstyle far more than anyone with dark skin.

>>531494534
ajsldprpeovkvmbntiroqplazmxnvngjtpapakcjvngmtpeoqiahzg ncmvmgptoeoqoeotpypryqoqpalzmxncnjriwpqpapalqoqoruth how's that for discussion?

>>531494736
wrong, sucka

>>531495210
is this a leak. where on the map was this taken.

>>531495579
leak from orange lane :)

>>531495210
literally nothing about this design would change if he was literally any other race.

>>531495686
ok so then it doesn't matter he's black then right?

>>531494736
nothing about the game remotely makes kitsune feel grounded in the setting, yamato herself is an affront because she's still rocking neon prime futurism like grey talon. i love that they will never listen to animefags. i love that gooners will never be happy with this game. i love it. i love it.

cracker fern leak

>>531494534
this general would be even deader without animeKING starting up thoughtful discussions.

>>531496849
heheheheh.... you screencap that, chat?

>>531494963
Better than offtopic animeshit
>>531495686
His skin isnt even human-black, its almost onyx and contrasts nicely with the bright-red clothing and burning orange tattoos. So it makes sense from artistic perspective

since they cant seem to fucking fix abrams getting stuck on terrain with his ult, they should at least make him immune to damage on his descent

>>531494324
>myth thing but real and shoots things
i'd say it fits deadlock pretty well

>>531499393
i'd say it doesn't

>>531499539
but it has demons and gargoyles and djinns and golems and a uh naga or whatever vyper is and such

>>531499393
catgirl is just so anime its hard to imagine it can be done in a good way, maybe I can be proven wrong

>>531500732
technically, kitsune demons are a legit mythological beast. it would have to be more beasty instead of just anime girl for valve aesthetics though

>>531500732
kitsune are fox girls, not cat girls
we do have a "catgirl" already and she's fucking GARBAGE so maybe they shouldn't make a kitsune actually

>>531499393
>>531500950
Wrong mythology, use something which is fitting to the setting instead. Mothman, wendigo and whatever shit natives believe in, some occult bullshit, lovecraftian creatures (some weirdo Innsmouth resident would be fine) etc. Besides we already have Yamato, your DEI asian representation quota is met

So is THIS a patch you guys were talking about?

>>531501759
We don't have a catgirl althoughbeit

>>531502281
calico

>>531501907
By that logic, abrams and nigfernus (or any demon with near eastern biblical roots) don't fit the artstyle. If djinn can fit, so can kitsune or the hundreds of kitsune analogues in other eastern cultures.

>>531501759
>>531502514
NTA but, Calico is definitely not a cat girl. She's just a woman who has a magic cat.

>>531502719
Fern doesnt even look like a demon, christian demons fit a christian country much better anyway (we will get a priest hero too) so your point makes no sense.
Even from the ''muh representation'' purpose, we have a sandnigger guy with a djinn lamp so arab part is covered, and we have demonic jap with a sword, so japanese part is covered.
>If djinn can fit, so can kitsune or the hundreds of kitsune analogues in other eastern cultures
Nah you don't want some kind of eastern cuture import, cus we have those already, you want a coomer character with animal ears. Seriously nigger, animal ears? The lamest fucking shit you can do besides going full concord.
What this game really needs is a proper monster, not furryshit, but a straight up abomination since the only other chaotic evil we got is Seven.

>>531503337
Good, that shit attracts the most subhuman troons and manchildren and the game has too many of these already. I havent seen a single coherent and mentally stable catgirl poster in my entire life

/dlg/ - seething about imaginary animeposting

>>531501907
I don't think there's any wrong mythology for deadlock, the occult in general encompasses world culture. they can do a more traditional native american spirit hero at some point, or maybe even something like an evil skin walker

>kitsunes (actual mythical creatures) don't fit deadlock's artstyle
>wholesome leddit native ameriburger myths (invented by white people decades after the natives were wiped out btw) fit deadlock's artstyle

>>531506530
But we have talon already, wendigos are fairly prominent in the popculture, but making a true native monster might also be too much. But if its /x/ doppelganger or a skinwalker, this could work
>>531506531
This but unironically

STOP CITING THE 40s THE GAME IS NOT THE 40s YOU GUYS PISS ME OFF SO FUCKING MUCH ABRAMS IS NOT DRESSED LIKE THE 1940s AT ALL IT IS AT MOST MID-LATE 1930s ITS JUST BECAUSE THE SETTING CLEARLY INCORPORATES MAGIC THAT ADDS MORE MODERN THINGS

>>531502514
not cute, black, doesnt count
>>531506531
early 20th century new york / east coast aesthetic, your brain can't comprehend this for some reason

Anime website
>B-BUH UGLY HEROES LE GOOD!!!
Your contrarianism is embarrassing, most of the new leaked heroes are cute girls btw if that makes you seethe feel free to go back to r*ddit

>actually esoteric concepts from the far east le bad
>muh hecking spooky wendigooner slop le good
this games cooked with this kind of audience.

kitsune doesn't work in deadlock's setting because it's too grounded in its culture. what would they portray her as? a priestess? why would she be in new york and not japan? what's her motivation for summoning a patron? yamato works as an immigrant because she's basically filling a weird yakuza samurai role, and its very grounded and it makes sense she's out of place (especially since she's still using neon prime assets) aside from that though there's nothing spooky or esoteric about a kitsune, especially since if they did go for a less anime depiction you'd all shit your pants about it being ugly or a hag or whatever else because she isn't the shitty generic league kitsune v2

>>531507714
nu-wendigoslop wouldn't be invented for another half century, while the chinese community was already well established in new york at that point in history.

>bringing up league unprompted
it's a dotard, pack it up boys.

>>531496849
this is Rusty Shackleford

>uhh a girl with cat ears and some tails is really esoteric it's referencing a time to when Japanese people stuck their fingers in each other's assholes as a joke! Stupid gaijin!

Youre gonna seethe when they give Yamato a schoolgirl skin lmao

>Nobody has a problem with Abrams, nu Pocket, or the new male heroes being Fujobait
>Everyone relentlessly seethes if you date want an attractive female in the game
So is this community just full of faggots / bitter trannies or what

He might actually have a heart attack once they roll out the inevitable sun wukong hero, let alone schoolgirl yamato.

What's the point in even making these matches and how does the average rank possible equate to Emissary 5 for the winning team?

>>531514191
Both. It's gonna fall on deaf ears once the chinese money starts rolling in, fortunately.

everyone knows theyre just gonna give yamato a kitsune skin. It is inevitable.
I can see it already
>transformation ult gives her 9 tails
>fox mask
>shrine miko outfit
>the wooden staff with white diamond papers on it instead of a katana
>paper talismans
>ghost fire
>YOOOOOOOOOOO

>>531514701
I feel like it would be its own hero release, that's a major cash grab at the chinese audience and it would complement a season 2 or season 3 push in that market

>>531514191
no one is seething about boho, bookworm or vampirebat, just calling someone a retard for wanting k-pop tier heroes in a noir setting

>>531514191
Since when do people complain about Geist or Holliday design either, same with Bookworm or Boho, work on your strawmanning skills
>>531514701
ok animenigger

Tranime zoomers get so angry when no one wants their slop lmao

Another day another round of rapid playtest updates. What the fuck are they waiting for, is there some kind of even happening soon so Valve are delaying next patch to be closer to it?

Everyone was seething about vindicta, where were you newfags?

>>531515506
None of them are even close to fanservicey in design. All we have with bookworm and boho are a low rez screenshot nigga. There's more than enough time for valve to uglify them at tranny request.

>>531516053
when lmao
I remember people seething about the redesign for being too ugly even though the current one is horsefaced

>>531516284
Fansrvice slop and dei slop are two sides of the same retarded coin, game would do better without both. Besides OW and Rivals has this niche covered already, why not go there and talk about bodytypes and cat ears instead?
>>531516053
you mean the supposed visual rework with neon blue glow on the face? yeah no shit, didnt you want less ugly heroes in the game animenigger?

Insider here, deadlock servers are going offline in roughly 3 months. They're going to give us all the unfinished heroes and items and let us fuck around with them before they kill the game.

Jesus the lack of updates really buckbroke y'all

I've always wondered why more games don't have a "director" à la L4D, specifically valve's multilayer games. DOTA2 has had multiple patches of
>memeback: win for 40min, lose 1 teamfight, lose game at 60min
and no one seems to enjoy that. Certainly a few key plays should be game defining. Personally I'm a fan of things being balanced with momentum and inertia
>don't push with an advantage
>enemy team closes gap and wins
Mixed with
>stomping the enemy
>win in 15 minutes
With the key being that skill and teamwork are not punished, and stomps aren't prolonged to give one team a "fair" chance where the matchmaking algorithm should have already done so (this is where victory + player stats + behavior scoring/reports could shine in theory) it's where, in theory, a director could push things in favor of a losing team without penalizing good plays and teamwork by the winning team. It becomes more of a spice factor where the games become more interesting even if they are a stomp.
>how would this work?
Fuck they can hire me before i get into it. I haven't even played the game for the past several months lol. I just want to see it succeed.
Pic unrelated

>>531517579
that just sounds like memeback with extra steps, you'd end up turning the game into mario kart

>>531517579
This approach would unironically make the game better if properly combined with in-game events rather than being a nanny state to the players.
For one, take the page from HoTS and their jungle approach, current one enables PvE faggots and these people have to go. Use the director to introduce harder/easier challenges based on whether your team is behind or ahead.
>Fuck they can hire me before i get into it. I haven't even played the game for the past several months lol. I just want to see it succeed.
No quitting, you made the post you elaborate on this. Or post on forums and enjoy your 0 views I guess

>>531517579
>>memeback: win for 40min, lose 1 teamfight, lose game at 60min
i feel like this happens all the time in deadlock
I think the game just needs buyback and/or fortification
probably not both
anyway I think I'm taking a break, games are too dog shit right now
see you guys soon™

>>531518327
Please give us forty, I'm tired of losing a walker since the team is being autistic and I'm defending another walker at the different side of the map

>losing game
>they're all at mid, gonna take it but ok, we got a walker
>calico immediately runs away

why are calico players like this

>>531516053
They're also trying to memoryhole the seething over the new heroes being cute girls, nothing tops the derangement over the Ivy redesign though but I am sure people are gonna pretend that never happened as well

>anons complaining about games being incredibly long
>unironically suggest adding fortislop

Never forget for the past 7 months """"""PRO"""""" players and random youtube assholes have been playing real deadlock while we sit and languish with a almost year old build (besides one map update and a item art pass) because the same """""PRO"""" retards god mad every time something changed

>someone in my game tries to argue that Seven is meh this patch and Grey Talon is the strongest
Sure is fun knowing you've lost in the first minute

>>531523749
>"Playtest"
>Not testing anything but an outdated version

>one of bookworm's ability is an auto parry

that shouldn't be a fucking ability, that should be a new green or purple item. I would gladly surrender a slot every single game to stop retards from throwing a match

Agreed until you suggested it becoming a fucking item.

>>531527574
Thought you were being cringe but your suggestion is based fuck meleetards

Learn to press one button, retardbro.

>>531326692
>They're using some sort of algorithm that loops into a negative feedback
what do you mean by that

>>531528618
Game is too janky for melee to be honest or respectable keep holding "Q" and telling yourself you're based shitlowbro

Do none of you retards know how to press F

>my pajeet-tier internet is too janky to respect melee
FTFY

>>531366358
>chase shiv around with your entire team and it takes at minimum 20s of focus to actually kill him
>vyper just raped both shrines through backdoor

>Meleetards having an actual meltdown that someone dares to suggest melee doesn't work properly sometimes

>>531476804
they straight up need to rework gun cards 80% of them suck fucking dick

>bro what if we could just cast an auto parry on teammates so they don't fuck it up
>W-W-W-WWHAT DO YOU MEAN JUST PRESS F

Qtards can't even read

Nice one Yoshi you hack fraud

>>531531741
you can literally already do that
jump in front of them and press f

WHY DOES MATCHMAKING TAKE SO FUCKING LONG?

last time i bought restorative shot was before the item rework

>>531532735
People here downplay him and just bitch about Haze, I think Deadlock community has M1 derangement

>>531533704
>Haze
>The easiest "carry" to counter
Anyone who complains about Haze thinking she's a problem doesn't buy counter items.

>retards still getting worked up about a haze playstyle that's been dead for ages
Proof that HDS (haze derangement syndrome) sufferers don't play the game.

>>531533550
It's pretty much in the best state it's ever been in but it's still restorative shot and goes nowhere. If it upgraded into siphon bullets it might be alright.

The only actual problem with haze (and all on-hit effect passive heroes) is that they're able to apply their shit entirely too far away and shooting once from 70m away just resets the duration. It's retarded eating those spirit damage procs off haze even in lane even though she's pelting you from the other side of lane and gets to proc it anyways with no fall off. They seriously need to just sit down and put a 25m range on all of these on hit effects.

>>531534801
Use the cover that's everywhere on the map perhaps?

>valve game
>ruined by russians

lol
india of europe

I'm getting more and more e*rocucks in my Freedom based servers.
I have one question, why are you fags so emotional?
You mental midgets tilt sooo easily over the dumbest shit, more so stupid shit you do. You rage in chat or over mic for the rest of the game while preforming terribly. You get like a response or two when you first rage then the rest of the game you pout and keep chimping out while you get no more responses.

9/10 they're arabs/turks. Actual europeans aren't like that.

Does everyone here just not know how to directly reply, who the fuck are you morons talking to

Fuck off newfag

>>531537027
>bro just cower behind your shop the haze totally won't land 20 bullets stacking ROF items

>>531537914
>multiplayer game
>ruined by ruskies
oh wow
never seen that coming

>>531545037
a classic de-evolution of generals is this behaviour

>>531537914
>>531545875
every fucking time. I'd still be playing dota to this day if they let me play with other actual europeans.

>>531539770
Russians are already braindead but Turks make them look semi-sentient.

>>531538949
america is a horrible shithole unless you're ruthless or lucky. however bad this is for our country as a whole it does make us some of the toughest fuckers on the planet. eurobabs don't even know what it's like to live with zero social safety net.

do not reply to vagueposters who strawman and dont reply to you. absolute nigger behavior

>>531545978
sounds like they did you a favour retardkun

Gonna be honest i think the patch will be next week

>guy gets mad at me because I didn't ult someone as shiv
>tell him I didn't have any stamina
>he says why do I need stamina to use my ult
>I tell him it's to get within fucking cast range
>he pushes to talk but can't think of anything to say
fucking retard, it's just like dota where people get mad you don't use your abilities beyond their cast range

>>531551874
>get stunlocked and die, cant use ult
>bros saving ult for next game :skull: :skull: :skukll:
hang and murder all broccoli heads. roundhouse kick them into the pavement. remove their limbs with an axe

>>531545770
Yes? At least you have the chance to avoid this poke unlike Yamato slash, Geist Bomb, Warden flask, etc all shit that hits you through walls and has fuckhuge AoE, do you just want the devs to completely gut an already weak laner because you don't know how to play cover or have good movement?

>>531503890
Wrecker, my beloved

why is punching / parries so broken and why haven't they fixed it in nearly a year? totally not abandoned game btw

>>531546991
>”yeah we’re so le tough because our government doesn’t care about us”
>meanwhile Americans are famously oversensitive with the highest concentration of homosexuals and Jews with the most physically out of shape population
You’re tough how exactly?

PATCH TOMORROW????

>>531559586
Kill yourself Hazetard

>>531561772
>this guy must punch a lot for him to make this post
>I bet he plays haze
smartest /dlg/ poster

>>531559586
You don't understand, it is all fixed up in the gigasecret build - the dogshit netcode, melee that feels more clunky than TF2, denies, one deadlock game eating up 20 times more data than other multiplayer games, non existant anti-cheat. trust the fucking plan.

>>531562439
>muh data
turd worlder?

>>531561467
Maybe but also probably not

they have to be paying some of you guys to post here. every single obviously bad decision by valve is vehemently defended. and I'm not even talking about responses to overly negative posts, even a simple "I like the game but I don't like this part" is met with a vicious defense and personal attacks. it's actually insane

>>531564227
Alright, be specific, what bad decisions have been defended?

>>531564418
literally everything. I've been told this game is absolutely fine and could ship tomorrow. More specifically when the item update came out and things like vyper's ult with ap rounds and express shot interactions were found they were "intentional" - until valve patched them and they obviously were broken this whole time of course. Then there are heroes like calico and infernus who were perfectly fine until again, they get nerfed and suddenly they really needed it. You can go read the archives if you don't believe me. I'm not saying all or even most anons here are like this. But there are consistent posters here that defend valve so hard I almost think they might be trolling.

>>531563441
your Valvedrone syndrome is showing, not even gonna entertain subhuman such as yourself, your kind is cancer in every single multiplayer Valve game

>>531565293
>I've been told this game is absolutely fine and could ship tomorrow
No one says this you schizo
Everyone agrees that it needs like a year and a half more in the oven

any yuro for a game or two?

Why does shiv dagger deal 400 damage in lane?

>>531567421
It doesn't

thoughts on witchmail?

>>531567421
bleed

>>531568739
Not that good, probably only good on Mo

>>531568871
uh interesting I would have said Dynamo, why mo? His CD flow pretty well with one another

>>531569083
Not gonna post the actual rankings? Obvious shill.

>>531569131
I didn't watch it

>>531569130
All of Mo's abilities provide some sort of additional survivability in some way so it's basically extra EHP no matter what skill it procs with. I mean sure it's good with dynamo too I guess but I've never considered buying it on him as there's so many other great items for him

Late game Lash's ult is a just a "I win" button

>>531569286
I guess yeah, I find spirit resist items rather dull to be honest. I'll try it on mo

Man I love mates giving up at the end acting smug while doing nothing in the base, "haha guys am not mad and retarded ;)". Imagine not fighting til the very end

>>531465686
you hit the wall nigga

>>531569345
Actually it's also pretty good if you're doing a greenmaxx bebop build so you can spam bombs, forgot about that

>>531569710
I wish I was good at hooking, beebop looks fun

>>531569754
Lots of people try to build up bomb stacks in lane by hooking heroes and sticking them or by just trying to gap close. But a great way to get a bunch of stacks early is to buy expansion and spamming uppercut to fling bombed troopers at heroes, it's weird that i don't see it happen very often. just get the uppercut and bomb cooldown upgrades and you can get a shitload of stacks

>>531570208
do you punch ally or enemy trooper

>>531570261
Usually shove the wave and then fling an ally trooper as the wave is pushing up, but if the enemy gets wise to that routine you can just stick an enemy trooper instead and fling it before the waves clear to mix things up.

>>531570406
I see thank you, I'll ruin a mate's game failing this strat. Classic build with witchmail it is

>>531570489
Oh and it's better in the side lanes obviously because of that big ass bridge in blue lane can be a pain in the ass to work around

>>531557150
Oh shit you're right. I wonder how his finished model is going to look, since Frank looks more book-accurate but less monstrously, so Wrecker and maybe Punkgoat will have to balance things out
>>531569214
Lol based

>>531568739
>thoughts on witchmail?
Good on Abrams and Bebop
>>531569345
>Late game Lash's ult is a just a "I win" button
More like ''heal you through Counterspell'' button, if your team isnt buying it against Lash its throwing

>>531570812
Isn't counterspell triggered by the first CC? Since everyone shits them out at the end you gotta be lucky to proc it on lash ult

>>531570860
It doesnt require a CC component to work and Lash ult is very telegraphed and impactful, also a teamfight starter. So you can simply wait for it and completely deny any Lash attempts to initiate

>>531569710
is it a good build

>>531569710
>greenmaxx bebop build
you're fucking trolling, kill yourself

>>531573364
No way you're this shitlow

>>531573629
>t. Archon tranny trolling with his dogshit meme build
I bet you screech in the voice chat about "MUH PICKLE BEBOP BUILD!!!"

Yeah Beebop is still fucking pain for me, also I had yet another fucking ruskie on my team am tired am gonna go back to dynamo

>>531574675
Bebop can carry games in shitlow by stacking bomb damage since noone buys counterspell/debuff remover. Early game is a bitch for sure (your gun is very good at denying btw) but its not a totally uphill battle

>>531569710
Anyone have a greenmaxxing bebop build I could play with? I like to try stuff out since I'm kinda bored otherwise.

>Early game is a bitch for sure
jesus fucking christ how dogshit are bebop players

>>531578175
If you are building for bomb damage you have a hard time getting kills solo early on in the game because your only form of damage is very shit yeah

>>531577589
oh I didn't say he was bad, I am bad at him

Still no content, still no players, just wait until Riot makes its own version

anyone else have this weird bug sometimes that you get stuck in the middle of the animation at spawn?
when you dodgeroll+grab line immediately after spawning you can get stuck and it plays the sound of the line about 100x in a second

>>531580330
riot can't even make a fighting game

>>531580426
yeah when I get killed while ulting sometimes

>>531578175
>doesnt have the courage to reply directly
Well aren't you just assmad and pathetic at the same time

>n-no I NEED that (You)!!!
how stupid are these retarded newfags?

>>531580436
God that shit is still baffling.

>>531580819
see >>531545972
treating a general like a chatroom instead of properly replying is peak /vg/schizo discordnigger behaviour, reconsider your life choices

I feel like low rank is mostly struggling to keep waves from crashing into walkers because your team is busy brawling for 20 minutes in the jungle. This ends 40 minutes in when the enemy Seven who has actually been in lane clearing shows up to wipe everyone out because your teams carries are 10k souls below your Dynamo.

If you dare to recommend these players do anything else they will flame you and give you some excuse as to why they absolutely HAD to let that creep wave go by while they were farming the jungle camp.

>>531580819
poor scared boy, too intimidated to talk to people directly even through the internet

why are cheating retards always playing Haze or Infernus.

>>531585026
he's just hungry for (you)s it's probably his sole human interaction of the day

>>531585212
on hit effects

531580819
kill yourself

>>531583897
I dont mind it, easy souls to snowball off later

>>531554714
>automatically winning every trade and having a 3s stun with an invis speed boost for contesting buffs is weak laning
news to me!

>>531565945
sure what's your id

>>531587602
created a lobby: SZCP6

I think this is basically how you're expected to play Ivy

>>531587602
>>531587739
go whenever you want, I don't see a prelobby chat lel

>>531554714
I just wish they put a range limit on that passive, it's really ass playing versus cheaters and they just put 40 stacks on your head the moment you peek a corner.

>>531588050
Literally every on hit effect should just REQUIRE you to be within 25 meters. It's mostly the fact that any bullet landing just instantly does a full rest on the duration that is super annoying though.

>>531565885
not him but you denying it proves his point
we've had people say the fucking map is already done and doesn't need any further improvements for fuck's sake

>>531320113
Why not both

>>531587821
Missing a Vortex Web in there

>>531588986
>we've had people say the fucking map is already done

i do wonder what runs through these peoples minds lmao

>>531588173
Literally any on hit effect should be removed, it adds nothing to the complexity or outplay potential, it breaks the game easily when the item balance is changed, it reinforces bad macro decisions in CoD tourists

>>531588986
You mean graphical improvements or map layout itself? I'd like to see Mid temple return somehow, it looked pretty, same with more verticality and bridges, but that would call for a bigger map size

>>531569083
Actual tier list based on hotness by actual female
Inb4 Troon

Onhit is the latest anti-gun schizo buzzword I see.

>>531596080
you know arabs are the domestic abuse champs

>>531596080
i believe it because troons are all "lesbian" and they'd place all the girls at the top of the list
also because finding seven attractive is a real woman moment, although i can't say i disagree with it

>>531596080
>kelvin is the same tier as an old man
ginger bros, I'm sorry.

>>531596080
Its Bebop's accent isnt it?

>>531596362
You know biological women love being abused right?

>>531596080
>paradox, geist, wraith that low
>mirage, seven and lash that high
>abrams not in S tier, pocket and warden somehow not in F
This femoid has shit taste

>>531597371
Reading shitty violent erotica doesnt equal liking this shit irl
>>531596623
Yeah lol he has no character and is a total plank, but below a rusty robot, underage uggo and a mass murderer in a sombrero? Bullshit

>>531597371
in your dreams

Valve needs to add a honse hero to this game.

>>531598038
youd think 4chan dweebs would understand that but that tier list is still shit

>>531596362
They're also the hottest phenotype on earth. Mirage is def Iraqi or based on an Iraqi. But those phenotypes are difficult to distinguish from Roman/Greek ethnicities. Mediterranean men are the hottest on earth
>>531596959
Kinda but it's more that he's tall, bulky, brutish, and confident
>>531597778
Women aren't attractive except haze kinda
>>531598038
I ask my bf to choke me and punch me every time we have sex, retard, date some women and find out (also be more of a man, get your test up)

>>531534801
there's this really cool item called debuff reducer that actually makes it so the second you take cover it near instantly clears the negative passive haha!

>>531599694
sure you do "woman"

>>531597778
its almost like she's not a dyke and has no reason to rank women high

patchbabs, dead status?

The only really good-looking hero in the game is Abrams, very much because his model is the most finished. Sure many women and men in this game would be at least normal after the artpass.

>>531606513
This is a very limited and intellectually dishonest approach, you don't have to be gay to differentiate the ugly men from the handsome ones either.
Of course much of it comes down to the subjective tastes and preferences, but you can do a fairly good rating based on aesthetics and general understanding of human psychology, at least according to normie tastes.

>>531599694
Blatant fetishposting, you're trying too hard

>>531607451
there's a very funny irony in trying to say I'm being intellectually dishonest meanwhile you're trying to apply about 4 layers of seriousness to what is ultimately a nobody content creator making a one time slop video about a game she played for all of 3 days to rank video game characters she found hot (fuckable)

>>531599694
ywnbaw

>>531596080
goo bros...we're invisible to women...

>>531609048
there's always rape

>>531609210
she'll think it's a pile of goo...then it'll punch her in the face!

>>531609276
just cunt punt her

>>531606570
Next week, either Tuesday or Thursday. Yoshi's "not today" very much makes it seem like it's right around the corner

JUST TWO MORE WEEKS
TRUST THE SCIENCE

>>531608524
I dont care about that dumbshit youtuber, her taste disgusts me, I'm talking about the general approach for this kind of ranking

>>531596080
>infernus over 'brams

yea she him put him up a tier to not look racist

>>531611816
>I dont care about that dumbshit youtuber
ok well that's who and what i was talking about so there was no need for a reddit analysis on any generalized line of thinking because my opinion was not general it was directed at something with intention and context. i hate pseuds so much man.

is there a point in getting back into this game as a solo player? I lost interest once they removed solo lanes.

>>531614117
You should focus on making some friends rather than what videogame to waste your time in

>>531613583
You're right, I was being an ass for no reason, forget it
>>531614117
Only ever played solo, this game is addictive af. Honestly, if you dont enjoy this solo, I dont think you will be able to get anyone else into it, none of my friends wanted to try this so bringing a friend is a harder task here

>the only bong representation in the game is a not-KGB bond
jesus christ

>>531616861
Who cares about bong representation

>>531616992
occultfags and secret societies are brit-centric

>>531617351
Like pretty much everything else, Americans do it better

>>531617431
yeah?
monty python

>>531617542
seinfeld

>>531617714
I'm fairly sure that's jewish and not american

>>531616861
It's New York City, how much bong do you want?

Where's the patch

you missed it, they just rolled back the main client

>>531620464
NO PATCH!!!!!!!!

>>531620464
Here >>531502152

Without dooming or valvedroning, what do you guys think the chances are that the next update brings the player count back up to 30k+?

>>531622370
0

>>531622370
I don't care about the player count, it's a fucking playtest

>>531622370
heavily depends on what the update actually is
if it's not open beta then it very likely won't, but if it adds like 5+ heros and some items plus a lot of balance changes/reworks it might
something like a jungle rework will probably not bring that many people back because it's mot very flashy even if it's arguably one of the most critical things that need to be worked on

>>531622370
20k tops
there will be no new blood, only people who dropped the game between updates

>>531622715
Deleting jungle would bring 100k players back.

>>531622370
We're only going to get a significant playerbase increase when the open beta releases

>>531623663
>Deleting jungle
is it even realistic to expect that?
the map is built around camps being there

>>531623813
nobody likes afk jungleslop, and adding some minigame souls-like slop ontop of slop would actively deter people from playing.

>>531622370
Pretty much zero unless the patch comes with an open beta or some advertising on Steam.

>>531624206
Try speaking without buzzwords.

>>531624206
>souls-like slop
???

SS and boxes are decent, but how do you make up for no jungle?

>>531622370
4 heroes update brought it to 23k and shop update brought it to 22k, I don't think anything short of open beta will break 25k.

i want more items
also all abilities should have 2-3 different upgrade paths instead of 1
i fucking love retarded levels of customization

>>531625737
Having a upgrade tree like dota has on every ability would actually be sick, but then again the game is already kind of absurdly complicated as is

>>531625737
Yes please, RPG-like upgrade system for heroes would be super fun but insanely hard to balance

Valve should proompt grok to finish up all the heroes. They already proompt chatgpt for matchmaking.

my last digit will indicate how many days remaining until patch

>>531627739
Sounds realistic

>>531626257
it would be cool for these abilities that are charge abilities but only have 1 charge to finally have a way to get more charges without buying an item because it really triggers my autism that lash's 2 is a charged ability with only 1 charge like wtf is the point and yes i know what's the point but forcing you to buy an specific item for it to come up is stupid

1-5: patch next week
6-9: patch today
0: no patch, yoshi has forsaken us

>>531627739
make that 3 digits

>>531627739
>>531629030
Oh hell naw

Hopoo actually said no patch today on discord, its joever

>>531629702
>check
>real
it's never been more over

Starting to think it actually might be really soon. Saying "no patch today" every other day for the next few weeks would be dumb as shit and really uncharacteristic for Valve.
But Friday release seems insane too. I'm not ruling out the devs just being retarded.

>>531630760
why us friday release insane?
on that topic why are devs so obsessed with releasing shit in the middle of the week instead of the weekend when i'm not 8 hours out of my house working i hate ig

>>531630760
Pls release on Friday, I have a day off tomorrow

>>531629702
>>531630519
source?

So, is viscous genuinely just ass right now? I've spent so much time trying to make a build that works, only for it to be a 50k build that does half the work of another hero's 30k build. How the fuck am I supposed to play this goo man anymore?

>>531630760
??? It wasn't a major patch but the most recent balance update was released on a Friday. Not only a Friday but a US holiday.

>>531629702
He said that last time there was a patch too.

>>531633232
He posted it on the discord a few hours ago

>>531635497
Did he? seems like cope

>see vtuber celebrity funke on forums
>near 300 messages
>only a few pages of public posting

ah, so there's that secret club. hope this guy has good taste and isn't some shitter

>>531636294
>hope this guy has good taste and isn't some shitter
He made a really bad video about deadlock and while sucking off the movement and all that he said 95% of his hours are on fucking MCGINNIS which invalidated almost everything he said

>>531622370
30k MAX.

This won't blow up again until they actually do a full 1.0 release and convince people that is relatively feature complete.

>>531636294
I'm not a fan but doesnt he have multie million total view count and a few hundred k subs? I imagine that anyone with those numbers would get a cock sucking by valve

>>531636294
Actual feedback sections are private in general. Only you and Valve staff can see your posts there.

secret playtest got hit with a patch

>>531638441
secret playtest got a patch yesterday

>I'm gunna change the world

>people seriously want four lanes back

>>531639017
4 lanes was kino, solo lane being aids or not shit was cash

5v5 with 3 lanes would solve both problems but you're not ready for that conversation

>>531639450
>solo mid
yeaaaah, let's trust the most important lane to some retard

>>531639017
This was fucking awesome. I loved seeing Vindicta go into the air from the lane next to me, it made it immersive having to dodge her ult from a lane over, and im sure it fun for vindicta players to have more options to think about

do you think they will ever focus on making the average match length shorter

>>531636294
in his videos he said that valve should listen less to hyper pros and more to people that want to have fun so i think he may be onto something

>>531640038
They already tried with 4 lanes to 3 lanes change

I liked solo lane

>>531640260
I mean I feel like there is an easier way than that, just push up all the timers and increase soul gain across the board.

3v3 2 lanes is the REAL kino

5 lanes

6 lanes

Only reason people seethe at 3 lanes is that it expanded the jungle but the jungle didnt get updated alongside it

Make the jungle more interesting

>>531641779
Jungle is a bad concept. They should remove it and make the map smaller or at least cut the number of camps way down.

>>531641779
nobody likes pvefaggotry.

>>531643178
pve wouldnt be so bad if it was actually worth anything. there's no reason the economy should be as slow as it is. the game is fast paced, we should have an economy that matches the gameplay. theres zero reason why you shouldn't be able to have a complete build by 30 minutes at the latest

>>531533341
no players.

We need a survival mode like a horde mode

>>531639450
There's no reason for the game to be 6v6.

>>531596080
>Haze is the only female above bottom
Explain this now

>>531617351
>occultfags and secret societies are brit-centric
by the current aesthetics its more just eurocentric in general. france had it, germany had it, italy had it, spain had it.

>only time to play 3 games this week
>leaver
>2 raging feeders
>2 leavers
amazing game. might just continue not playing this shit anymore

>>531646915
I've given up on this patch. Seven is stupid and too many games have McGinnis who is just miserable to play against. Going to come back after patch,

One Lane

I DONT KNOW WHY

Apparently Neon Prime had a fog of war mechanic experimented
Howd that even work

>win lane
>lose game

TRIED SO HARD
AND GOT SO FAR

>>531651250
IT'S THREE MINUTES IN AND GREEN'S 0/9

>>531652538
KEEP THAT IN MIND THEY DECIDED TO DESIGN

THIS GAME IN DUE TIME, all I know

PLAYERCOUNT IS A VALUABLE THING

WATCH IT MOVE LIKE A PENDULUM SWING

WATCH IT COME DOWN BY THE END OF THE DAY

THE PATCH IS FAR AWAY, its so unreal

>try out viper
>0/12/4
>sinclair on team goes 1/9/3
>come to the conclusion that vyper is currently dogshit and decide to return to my hometown of sinclair
>get the guy who played sinclair last game as a paradox on the enemy team
>"You were a dogshit sinclair last game, let me show you a magician with some chest hair"
>proceed to go 5/2/18 as magician while he goes 0/9/4
Feels good

>>531655658
seems a bit mean, I'm sure he tried his best

>>531639017
They should, at least have the option

>>531654321
kino

>>531655658
unnecessarily mean

>>531460851
Realistically? KOTH or 5CP, maybe 4v4 or 3v3. Would be fun as fuck playing on koth_product or cp_badlands if you added ziplines

>>531639017
i just want the duels back

>>531638769
what build? i picked up warden again, been running metro's carry ult build

Just lost a 6v5 ama

>>531639017
this is sovlful as fuck
if it REALLY bothers you you could just literally put some buildings in the middle

>>531664746
Brooo but the GAAAAAAANKING brooo
ganks brooo the gaaaaaaanks

>>531665127
that shit happens anyways because there's always a fucking lane that falls 5 minutes in
i've been saying it time and time again but the removal of the solo lanes did not fix a single issue that people had with them, at most the bad matchups but that shit still happens in duos

>game bleeds out players
>mm struggles to put fair matches together due to lack of players
>bleeds even more players
is it possible for a game to die before even leaving beta

what's a build

>>531665870
YES
LFD3
ARTIFACT
Half Life Episode 3

I'm ritualist and just got matched against the third and fourth best players in my server in lane AMA (we lost)

why are there so many deadlock streamers with triple digit viewer count but zero chat activity whatsoever?

>>531668269
what's your server you filthy spic

>>531665870
Let the fucking alpha die

Valve is paying streamers a stipend so that they can buy bots on every platform.

>>531669363
>every platform
it's literally just twitch though
if you check their stream on youtube it has 10 people at most. i think the only one i haven't seen follow this pattern is skeletonhoney and funnily enough he has a more active chat than any of these guys
it really feels like they're botting for views

this is a case study of why MOBA design is atrociously bad, the player numbers are dropping, and the remaining stockholm syndrome players justify this

There is no reason ever for Seven to go a melee build. There just isn't. But a new player is presented with the false choice of being able to purchase items such that they can go a melee build. The shop allows you to make incredibly bad mistakes

>doesn't that mean it's more skill based?

Not in the grand scheme of the game. Players learn that there is no reason to buy specific items ever, so the actual item diversity reaches effectively zero. There's a lot of items in the shop, 75% of them are useless for your specific hero. Why Deadlock didn't use a talent system a la heroes of the storm is strange, honestly.

That's another thing. Items have to be balanced around what heroes can be effective with them. If an item is overpowered on a single hero, that item has to be balanced until it isn't on that specific hero. But what about the rest of the cast? That item becomes garbage for them, never worth buying. Look at Bloodstone in DotA, only worth purchasing on tinker, Storm spirit, Timbersaw. 3/100? of the hero cast. The game presents you with the option to buy something never worth buying; it doesn't affect gameplay besides gaslighting noobs for a couple hundred hours that, no, you never ever buy bloodstone on Sniper, phantom assassin, etc

I bring up DotA because "the item shop" is a 2003 warcraft mechanic that doesn't actually work. The only half-smart idea Deadlock had was restricting how many types of items you could have, forcing players to ~NOT~ flanderize and build hybrid, which it abandoned in less than a year.

>"but the item shop rework was a huge update"

Changing Deadlock to be a bog standard MOBA was not a rework; never understood this cope. What solves all of this, is, giving hero specific talent trees. Want a bigger magazine on Abrams? You can do that without having to balance with Infernus in mind. 1/?

>>531669946
in an ideal world the shop would allow you to buy items that are both similarly viable but also allow for more complex or different ways to interact with the game's objectives, enviroment, or even the hero kits themselves. the problem is that in deadlock and dota instead of this being the case it's just used as a way to gatekeep the heroes' full power until lategame and to counter heroes on the other team way, wayyy more than it is to bring new interesting spins on the gameplay. And the few times this is the case? it's just shit like vortex which is a simple AOE effect. It's really sad that one of the more interesting items to use is just a fucking blink, or they straight up don't work (the invisibility items)

I like the idea of the shop but yeah the implementation has never truly been done right imo. Not even in DOTA even though it's technically balanced there.

>bebop has one of the highest winrates
huh?

>>531669946
No, you're just a faggot
The phrase "everything CAN work" was said by a much smarter TI winner than you with a much better record

>>531669946
2/2

While I am not super good at the game, The amount of hours I put in seem worthless already. How should the Seven know how this system works, or even bother to learn it? All this system does is punish people trying new things, teaching them "hey dude you should never, ever buy these 75% specific items on this specific hero". When does the game get fun, or reward fluid intelligence? MOBAfags often cannot answer this. Chess, Poker, Quake, CS, Broodwar fags can answer that, but MOBAfags cannot.

It also explains why this game had a severe drop in players. What you see is ~NOT~ what you get. Valve had the chance to make a new multiplayer shooter, and they wasted it on weird psychology of MOBAs, where you lose control of your character in fights, and you're assaulted by a myriad of bad choices that only require sheer exposure to overcome.

>"buying items is a core skill component of the game"

I mean, somewhat? How much brainpower does it take to buy decay versus Shiv? That's just learning basic bitch counters. How much brains does it take to buy debuff remover when playing Shiv? These are not critical thinking tasks, more learning "oh your hero buys this XYZ item" which takes time. Nothing against time, but at some point you learn everything, and the fluid intelligence has yet to present itself.


Which is the next point, the stockholm syndrome. Some people with excess spare time are willing to grind the game, learn every niche, whereas most people cannot dedicate multiple hours a day to learn the game. Bad game design becomes a point of pride, "I know the game better than you do because I can learn rote memorization". Neither Chess, Poker, or Quake suffer from this, nor do many other competitive games, only MOBAs have this issue.

Patches that wildly swing balance also contribute to this issue, where you have to relearn what items are good on what heroes, and you cannot take a 6 month break from the game and come back to it. 2/?

>>531670954
>>531669946
Did you post this as feedback or not

>>531670954
>>531670938
case in point, stockholm syndrome. Bad game design is good because someone else bothered to deal with it.

As for "anything can work", try building gun on Holliday. Oops, the character scales only with spirit, even her headshot ability, are you a retard? are you throwing the game? Why are you buying crippling headshot on holliday?

These are all statements I received when buying gun items on the cowgirl revolver slinger. I don't mind getting called bad (and probably am), but I cannot be expected to psychically know that building gun damage on a GUNSLINGER is the exact opposite of what I should buy. I can see the merit of understanding that her kit has 2 charge abilities, buy rapid recharge, buy mystic regeneration to heal in fights from multiple ability casts, but everything about her character screams "I headshot people with my revolver like I'm Clint Eastwood" only for the gameplay to punish me for buying into art direction the game presents me with.

Again, MOBA's gaslight you into bad decisions, and the people willing to put up with bad decisions start masturbating about how it's good game design because they (and barely anyone else, check steam charts) stuck with the bad game design

>>531670646
>hero with the most broken "not-ult but basically an ult" skill
well duuuuuuuuh

game's instantly crashing on startup again, thanks valve

>>531671704
>he still cries about hooks
lmao

>>531669568
Youtubers are also being botted. Every company does this to some extent.

>>531671535
It's not bad game design just because someone in your match ran a shit build
People can make mistakes with the movement and often do, but you would NEVER advocate to turn the game into a tower defence where nobody can move. Why? Because you're a fucking shortsighted faggot

People stopped playing because its an incomplete mess lmao

>>531668917
South America, as you surmised

I'm amazed this general is still a thing.

>get put in a server 3500 miles away
is deadlock really that dead now?

>>531639017
this game will be a broken unplayble mess forever isn't it. Shit that's clearly an issue even with a glance is applauded as a stand out cool mechanic. what the fuck.

>>531639017

A new low, it'll be over soon

>>531676754
damm they should release a big patch immediately to save this game matchmaking is a real issue though, like the guy earlier said. Widening skill gaps between players in the same matches, plus smurfs. If the game had even 10x the players then I could get back to being in lobbies with players who can macro and avoid the many smurfs plaguing Ritualist and below.

>>531671535
>but I cannot be expected to psychically know that building gun damage on a GUNSLINGER is the exact opposite of what I should buy.
I'm not gonna go to bat here and say "Valve's just cooking on another level and you're too retarded to just get it, man" because theres a ton of dissonance with Holliday's visual design and her kit. However, if you're literate enough to type out that essay, then surely you can read what the abilities do, then see the little "line go up with purple star" next to their numbers. Then, you easily conclude that if you have more purple items and stuff that boosts your purple number in your stats, you can conclude that you need more purple items to make crackshot hit harder.

matchmaking is only an issue because you guys have no friends to play with or you are actually so bad you cannot climb out of the poo rank where all the smurfs go to stomp. i have never seen a smurf since starting this game because i'm not playing at alchemist 4

>>531679130
>t. Alchemist 5

>>531671535
Norman Door problem.

Just build what you want bros.

>>531672440
It is bad design. There's an item called Tankbuster which doesn't do shit against tanks. Many such cases.
How do you expect the average player to keep up with shit like this? The answer is that they have to suffer getting stomped by the unemployed before they understand.

>>531676754
WTF DID YOU DO!

>>531682331
forgot pic sooory!

>>531671535
Why the hell are you not writing in the forums? You have no idea how much Yoshi would appreciate these posts.

>>531671535
gun holliday isn't even bad though

>>531682650
They don't read the public forums anymore, just the super secret build for good docile niggercattle.

>>531683232
Lies. Yoshi thanked me for my feedback a week ago. I'm no streamer, and I'm not part of some secret build either.

I will play spirit Mirage. Sorry teamchuds.

>>531646915
theres a big problem with niggers (see metro et al) who ragequit & hop on alts or switch back to main. you need like a soft ip ban

>run it down and spam nigger in multiple games
>everyone at my uni dorm is now banned
people gave up on ip bans for a reason.

>>531688428
This never happened btw

>>531688428
use the reply button nigger, you need an ip ban from this thread

>>531671535
I think the fix on gun holliday should be that the cooldown on crackshot is affected by fire rate. So you'll have the option to hit harder but longer cooldown or hit more often but less damage.

Valve should add a maid hero to this game and make her an unkillable aatrox-like bruiser.

>>531690613
They should add a Mary Poppins

why the FUCK would a maid have a gun, that and she'd be irish or something

>>531690613
Witch Maid. She uses her broom as a stave and flies on it.

>all the black characters are criminals
hmm??

>>531690613
>>531691370
Someone came up with a similar kind of idea for that a while ago
>>531692453
I mean that could be Boho

>>531669946
>>531670954
Drifted back here from my main general as I still sometimes want to return to Deadlock after the item rework killed my desire to play and I quit. But these posts are reminding me that even if I somehow got over the shit new shop, I'd still have to deal with a team of tards

A bigfoot character that has both of his feet cut off by poachers so he rolls himself around in a wheelchair. His wish is to get his feet back

They should add Rasputin as a character, don't even change the name. Would honestly fit perectly

For me it's the Grafton monster

For me it's the wendigo

>>531694303
A Wendigo character that's Australian and they call him the Wendingo

>>531676754
I'm glad there going to let it have a graceful quite death. Tomorrow they will announced that they are stopping development for good and we can all move on.

need more steampunk robots and cool art deco stuff

>>531671535
So you're unable to read but its game's fault?

>>531697278
Quote the anon in every thread, nevermore
>goes off to shit on other games in the other threads and eats an entire bag of twizzlers by himself

>>531697712
I hope valve put extra resources and effort in the visuals. Art deco, occult symbolysm, gothic skyscrapers, I want it all front and center and pretty

>>531699331
same, same. I'm a sucker for bioshock aesthetics. anything in that direction would be very welcome!

>>531700586
You should play Prey then, it also captures this style quite well

>>531701372
That's ugly

>>531701410
We are no longer friends

>>531699331
>>531697712
The item update with the designs is kino
Unfortunately theyre going less gritty and hardboiled with the heroes to appeal to china

Have I been playing with bots? Why do these players just rush into 4-5 people alone and die as much as 15 times.

>>531701547
Valve makes so much money it's frustrating that they're already shifting to gay chinkshit chungus designs.

>>531701547
Chinks wont play this anyway, they have marvel rivals waifus and tonns of generic animeshit, so not only are valve dilluting the original looks and concepts for the game, but it also doesnt matter

McGinnis is this rugged bulldyke mechanic

Nevermind she's a cutey patootie Rosie the riveter copy paste now

>>531701867
>Chinks wont play this anyway
This is the kind of mindless grind shit chinks love

>>531701967
>STOP WANTING CUTE HEROES UGLY GOOD!!
Kek, can't wait to see you troons have a meltdown over the Ivy redesign

>>531701967
No one outside of the us knows who rosie is

>>531702914
Ok

>>531701967
>haha mcgee is le lesbian
Fuck off

>>531702893
>wanting original more grim design is what le troons want
You also fuck off

>>531703446
Valve woke up and are actually making the cast visually appealing, cry about it.

>>531703554
You what you're saying is Valve went woke? I knew it

>>531703596
Oh you're an ESL, explains a lot

>>531622370
0%

>>531701967
as a staunch defender of """ugly""" characters like calico and current Ivy, new McGinnis is a flat out upgrade in every way. except for the fact she doesn't drop a welders hood while ulting anymore. they should probably give that back.
>Rosie the riveter copy
why is that a bad thing?

>>531705590
Why the fuck would you defend Calico

>>531707136
i just think she's really cool. I love her voice lines and design. especially these interactions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7Rn7jnkthE

Dead dogshit valvedrone game.
Dead dogshit valvedrone general.
Kill yourselves all wastes of oxygen that still haven't uninstalled this dead before arrival garbage.

>>531683963
Lying piece of niggershit, rope yourself immediately troon.

>>531707503
>t. got filtered and couldn't hack it and now seethes in the general of the game he was too shit to play
shame

>>531708465
>t. coping valvedrone
Your game is dead niggershit.

>531708742
uh oh, melty!!!

They should make a Ghandi type character

>>531622370
Zero which is probably (hopefully) one of the reasons Valve dont really make big updates that often for the public playtest

>>531682650
whenever i see people saying stuff like this i gotta wonder if they truly haven't thought of something similar themselves
they're not gonna stop making a moba just because it's a moba, assuming yoshi is icefag then the guy's been making and working on mobas for over 20 years already. he KNOWS this shit, but it's the sorta shit he likes so he keeps it that way.

>>531701753
This game attracts a lot of FPS players and they're truly the dumbest people on the planet.

>>531672975
i know you
you're the ivyfag with the cat picture on steam

How do you even fix the smurf issue? I keep getting players with less than 100 games, but play like phantom players.

>>531679130
Did you perhaps consider that the majority of those friends stopped playing the game months ago like most of the playerbase?

>>531717785
All my friends stopped when Valve started doing the different soul economy every week shit lmao. They all realized that they were guinea pigs and while it was fun it's not fun enough to keep up with a meta that had near bi weekly patches.

>>531718274
I mean that is on them for expecting different in an alpha test.

>>531718274
>YOOO, INVITE ONLY PLAYTEST!! ANYTHING TO TEST THE NEW GAME
>WTF, THEY'RE TESTING THINGS?

>>531717649
You don't, matchmaking is busted after 1000 games so you have to create a new account

>>531718818
>>531718662
Yeah we all generally agreed to play it again for open beta or 1.0.

It was the perfect time too since Marvel Rivals dropped. Then first half of 2025 had tons of friendslop shit.

>>531719502
sounds like they should fix matchmaking to me desu

>>531669946
>There is no reason ever for Seven to go a melee build. There just isn't.
But there is. He has the best stun in the game with 0 cooldown. All he has to do is stun people and get a guaranteed heavy melee, which means a guaranteed kill in most scenarios.

>>531718274
It's generally understood that the major player dropoff happened after the excitement of the 3-lane map wore off. That particular patch ruined the game, 4 lanes was kino as fuck and the only valid criticism was "we don't have a draft therefore 1v1 is imbalanced". As you mentioned it also destroyed the entire point of having souls that need to be denied/confirmed.

>>531720227
there's a reason the eternus players are all weighted in the top rank instead of properly across the top ranks

>>531721147
We stopped around early December dude.

>>531671114
>post as feedback
>gets completely ignored because you didn't slurp the dev nuts hard enough in your basic bitch criticism

>>531724161
Did your forget the May to June alpha? /v/irgins posted dank ass mean shit but Yoshi still liked the ones that had actual feedback.

>>531724601
you mean last fucking year when the peak was like 2k? yeah I remember, they stopped giving a shit after 10k, forget about 100k
they had to make a whole thread about bad matchmaking for people to post their shit in, probably because it was clogging up the whole hidden forum. They quite literally haven't fixed small easily fixable bugs that were reported from the may to june period last year by people who weren't dick riding insiders, why the fuck do you think they'd listen about fundamental changes to the game design?

>durrr why da machmaking shit???
>The Hungarian algorithm, while powerful for assignment problems, has limitations. It requires a square or rectangular cost matrix and assumes a linear, additive objective function. Additionally, it finds only one optimal solution, which may not be unique or preferred in situations requiring fairness, balance, or diversity.

>>531723897
what's the reason? (i have no idea how matchmaking and ranks work)

>chatgpt your matchmaking
>games dies

>>531635041
This is what it feels like to play gun ivy.
>BRO THIS IVY IS INSANE
>YEAH SHE HAS 40K IN GUN ITEMS BUT THAT'S BESIDES THE POINT
meanwhile put that build on heroes better suited for it and they'd rape her.

>>531640018
>t. foot nigger
>>531639914
Instead what happens is you go mid and then your retard you went mid with goes 0-5 in lane and AFKs for the rest of the match. What's the difference?

Patch on Thursday. 4 heroes in hero labs getting added, and 2-4 of the new heroes entering hero labs. Map visual additions and minor tweaks.

>4 heroes in hero labs getting added
stopped reading there.
their kits aren't even finished, let alone shippable for testing, Raven still has an exact copy of Wraith 3.
not getting a (You) because you're a faggot.

>>531731549
raven is ironically the most finished one besides the lack of a 3
i like trapper's idea but he's still pretty awkward to play, and the other 2 should honestly be deleted from the game unless heavily reworked

>>531731976
??? There's no problems with wrecker and fathom kits, they just need number tweaks to not be quite so dogshit, and maybe at best one ability outright replaced or redesigned. Wrecker cycling through bioblast charges by clearing camps with absorb is a fun loop, the rock is OK and would be maybe the one I'd mind least if it were gone, and the ult is fun and I can think of a number of ways to build around it better with the current item shop if I could get a fucking hero labs queue to go through. Fathom needs a little more help, the pounce is really lame and should be totally changed, but otherwise he just needs tweaks around a few abilities like his ult projectile to make him a 1v1 or ganking menace.

Trapper meanwhile feels completely schizophrenic and a poor design concept for a TPS. One of the worst cases of what people in these threads have complained about in regards to a lack or synergy in his kit, absolutely nothing he does plays off any other ability, it's just a mishmash of random abilities.

>>531733291
wrecker and fathom have the problem of being unbelievably unfun to play against and honestly not very fun to play as too
for trapper i think i just like the idea of a character that sets up traps more than anything else, but i always like characters that support by giving shields instead of healing and the spiders are a funny idea, although i think they should be way more but weaker
only his 1 is kinda whatever, it should get replaced with something that indirectly incentivizes/forces the enemy to run into your traps somehow

>>531725531
youre still posting this?

>>531734102
I think tusk's icewall would be a great fit for trapper. probably unbelievably OP though

>>531735340
Literally the first time i've ever posted it lol
you've spent so long seeing schizos you've become schizo yourself

>>531707694

>>531714314
I straight up tell Yoshi that mobas are the worst thing ever made since the bubonic plague, and he gives me the thumbs up and says thanks for the feedback. At the end of the day, Deadlock is a very simplified moba, which means they want the game to be playable for decent normal people.
Post your feedback in the forums or I'm going to bust your kneecaps.

new creep camp in the mid lane easy camp on experimental server. it is animated cleaning equipment sort of reminiscent of beauty and the beast

>>531738625
Peak

>>531725531
>>531727135
Oh I see the chatgpt retard is back, I told you ti kill yourself last time, why do you refuse to listen?

>>531738570
i wasn't the guy you were talking with before i just think it's silly that he has never encountered people that dislike mobas (with good reason) before in his 20 years making them, just because he engaged in the most minimal way with your post. Him saying "thanks for your feedback" might as well be the same as not replying at all for all it's worth, no?

>>531737630
Dynamo has it already
>>531738625
Back up your claims. No seriously, any kind of proofs or leaks would be nice

>>531738905
He implemented my suggestions in a later patch, so no it isn't worthless. He has actually responded with more than "thanks for the feedback" before, but I'm not going to post screenshots. After all, it is an anonymous board.