Frazetta edition

What is /crpgg/?
This general is dedicated to the discussion of comfy role playing games such as:
Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Pentiment, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, Solasta, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Rogue Trader, Dark Heresy, Wasteland and many others.

>Specific generals
BG3: >>>/vg/bgg/
Rogue Trader: >>>/vg/rtg/

>Recommendations:
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>Computer Role Playing Games Resources:
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https://monkposter.github.io/community.html

Previous: >>531590468

Thread Question: Should ammunition be counted?

>>531686417 (OP)
>Thread Question: Should ammunition be counted?
Yes and reloading each round should be a separate action that has to be rolled for

Elantach, can you explain to me why this monke is so mad?

>>531686646
Don't worry about him, my pet

>>531686541
Xenos poop from the sex hole but have a separate hole for peeing

>>531686417 (OP)
No, but you can only carry so much with you per run.

What class/race for BG1? I want to play through both but there's some weird options
Not sure about what "dual" vs "multi" means exactly in the long run

>>531687282
Dual I think means what it says
Multi means you shelve your existing class, then start all over again from level 1 in a new class, and only get your old class back when you reach the same level in your new class as you were in your old class when you went multi
Or maybe it's the other way around

>The monster disappeared, and silence returned once more. Steam rises from freshly baked cookies and fragrant tea on the table. Arueshalae gazes at her dream. You've never seen such joy on her face. “I... I just want to live here, in the mortal world. With you. I've solved the goddess's riddle. This is my true dream!”

>Arueshalae’s fragile body flares with a rainbow light, a swarm of blue butterflies surrounds her. She looks at you with shining eyes. “I love you. Will you be with me? Will you share my dream?”

>The girl flinches, but doesn’t pull her hand away. She squeezes your hand with her dry, hot fingers. “I believe you. You must be real — I don’t want to imagine a world where you’re not.”

>As if she was just waiting for that, Arueshalae answers your smile with one of her own. “Together, no hardship will scare us. We’ll get through it! We definitely will!”

>The heat radiating from Arueshalae’s body warms you and fills you with peace. Closing her eyes, she leans closer into you, her face moving toward yours...

>Arueshalae takes your hand in her small, hot palm, and the world around you fades away.

I bless this thread with my hands.

>>531687414
Ahhhh that's... ok.
I like wizards lol should I go full wizard or dual or multi

>>531687282
Elf mage so you can die over and over to the first combat encounter
Don't worry about romance because there isn't any in BG1

>>531687693
Full wiz
No dualing

>>531687414
That's the other way around
>>531687282
>>531687693
In short, Multi is leveling 2 classes at once while Dual is leveling one then abandoning it to level another while keeping the benefits of the original class. A multi Fighter/Mage will be a true gish while a dual Fighter -> Mage will be mostly a spellcaster that can also melee when needed, they're both strong as fuck but i personally prefer Multi for a trilogy run

>>531687704
Multi is easier and smoother for your first playthrough if you want to play a gish.

>>531687839
This guy seems to know what he's talking about better than I do, maybe listen to him instead of me (>>531687834)

>>531686879
Wow, they are just like us

>>531687282
Uninstall Wizard is pretty good

Reposting:

Fallout 1&2
BG 1&2
Expeditions: Rome, etc
ATOM RPG
Colony Ship
Black Geyser
Solasta
Disco Elysium
Spiderweb games
Wizardry
NWN, NWN2, etc
Pillars 1&2
Wasteland 2&3
Jagged Alliance 2&3

---

Swordhaven
Banquet for Fools
New Arc Line
Necromancer's Tale
Aletheia: Return of Odysseus
Solasta 2
Sector Unknown
Shadow of the Road

We're eating good my brothers.
I don't play demos or EA out of principle, but I really suspect that the roll of Pillars->BG3 is still bringing in new treasures.

>>531686646
Why did you ignore the owlcat games?

>>531689335
You forgot
Warhammer 40k: Rogue Trader
Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous
Dark Heresy

>>531689398
I didn't, I played them all

>>531689335
I don't understand this post

>>531690083
It's owlcat erasure from a seethoid

>>531687646
i love you

>>531690152
Lmao, when will they learn.
Still, what was the point of that post? It's just a list of games seperated by a line. I don't understand the message

>>531689803
Ahh, that's some very cool stuff but you might try checking out >>>/vg/rtg/ for that

>>531690083
A list of great crpgs, first released and second up and coming.
Some of them have demos. Play and post

>>531686417 (OP)
>Should ammunition be counted?
I've never played a CRPG when it's done right.
BG1&2, I'm overwhelmed with ammo.
Other games, it doesn't matter and kills my immersion since my bow is some infinite arrow machine.
Don't know the solution.

>>531689335
Will definitely keep an eye necromancer tale

>>531690764
Obvious answer to me is that you give infinite ammo but you have to know the game enough to know when to switch to a different kind of ammunition (like switch to lighting arrows to damage enemies weak to lightning etc )

>>531690470
It's his way of being passive aggressive

>>531691050
Wow, what a little bitch. Didn't even include Traveling At Night and Pentiment, instead it's full of some indie trash

In a classic CRPG tradition initial release of an Inquisitor Pondering the Orb pic had bugs, so here is a first patch patch
Change log:
>Minor bug fixes
>Improved security
>Reduced Chaos corruption rates for offline versions of the picture

>>531691257
Same energy, good meme template

>>531686417 (OP)
>Frazetta
Is that the cuck who drew his wife getting blacked, or was that vallejo?

>>531691139
I would include Pentiment and Traveling At Night, please forgive my oversight in this matter.
Pentiment is very good and I haven't played Traveling at Night but it seems interesting.

>>531691257

>>531691139
Those go in the >>>/vg/tang/ and >>>/vg/peng/ threads respectively

>>531691257
>Once again the older man who lords his power over you will not put out
When will the persecution of oldmen enjoyers stop?

>>531686417 (OP)
Fun game where I can be a skeleton and do fun skeleton things?

>>531691569
>be a regular run of the mill artist that draws artist stuff
>one fateful day snap and start drawing exclusivly BLACKED for no goddamn reason
>its not even good art its just looks like you've gone insane
>nobody can stop you
honestly based.

Killing kebab should have been a dogmatic action to be quite honest with you, senpai, not a neutral one

>>531692089
lich path in wotr and the new necromancer's tale game though I haven't played tale yet so idk how good it is but looks fine
you can also be a skeleton in divinity original sin 2. undead is an actual race choice

>>531691480
>tfw off-model xeno fetishist art gets posted
I genuinely dislike those poser artists so much, the ones that draw whatevers popular at the time and the grabbing point is some fucked up shit or just it being scantily clad women for the 50th time. like draw some scantily clad women and men with some fucking soul for godsake

"Cassia" is short for "Cassandria"

>>531692089
Wrath of the Righteous. You can become Lich. I should really do a Lich playthough, but i'm so burnt out on wotr, that I probably never will.
dos2 lets you be skeletor and people will freak out, but you don't get to do anything particualrly skelly coded that other characters can't do too. You can even fuck another skeleotr. No, I have no diea how it works

>>531692387
cassia is long for "cass" in idira's ending where she puts on the xeno devixw

>>531692089
Heroes of Might And Magic 3

>>531692456
shit had autoposting on, what I was gonna write was that in idiras xenos device ending it says the only time she isn't a lifeless husk is when cassia visits and her emotion powers bring back a fleeting resemblance of the old idira what the fuck thats so sad.

>>531692227
>>531692359
>>531692387
>>531692456
Might have some better responses in >>>/vg/rtg/

>>531686417 (OP)
>Thread question
Depends on the tone of the game. It would take away a lot away from the atmosphere of classic fallout if you're in a post apoc setting but you have infinite ammo. Its not like ammo is scarce but just the fact that you have to go out and find it yourself adds a lot to the game imo.
On the other hand It would feel dumb in rogue trader since you're a super rich commander with huge amounts of resources at your disposal, it would be stupid if you had to manage and restock every little bit of ammo.

Fantasy games I don't really care because usually you just but stacks of 99 arrows for 1 gold and then forget about it.

>>531692359
>draw whatevers popular at the time
Faggots who discover some old forgotten memes and starts drawing them incessantly are even worse

>>531692258
Lich path was great in WoTR, but my gripe with it was how it forced you to go full evil. I just wanted to be a morally gray lich overlord who would eventually become insane over the years after stopping the demons. Like cursing my soul for the greater good shit.

>>531692456
Why don't understand why Cassia allows Idira such familiarity. Idira is barely legal peasant, Cassia should be scandalized to be called by a nickname by her

>>531692576
oh shit we have our own general, that's awesome

>>531680541
Wrap your head around TAC0 and get Saving in a muscle memory. Read a leveling guide beforehand, if you are a pussy

What are the best archetypes for a Crime Lord? Wanna do a greedmaxxing playthrough

>VTMB2

Will it be good?

>>531691480

>>531692575
That's fucking terrible

>really like 40k as a settling
>like being the underdogs instead of big beefy spess marines
>love everything about the first act of RT
>start losing interest shortly after being given full control of your ship
Am I retarded

>>531692792
Ask in >>>/vg/rtg/ for best answers

>>531692841
I haven't played any VTMB
but I might have had some cringey roleplay in a basement with friends when I was young

>>531692792
Officer. Hive World

Do we know how long the solasta 2 campaign is going to be, will it be around the 12-14 level range like the last one? Since they added multiclassing I want to plan my build ahead of time.

>>531692692
Idira isn't really put off by anyone
>>531692576
No this one seems fine, thanks for the suggestion though

>>531692864
Pretend Comissar is Calcazar instead

>>531692935
Depends on what you like, probably want to ask in >>>/vg/rtg/

>>531693013
I would also like to know this

>>531692963
And grab the Weapon Personalization feat for +1 damage with Solid projectile weapons

>>531693023
It's not a question of Idira not being put off by Cassia. It's a question of why Cassia isn't scandalized by it. She certainly flips out every time you try anything that even slightly violates decorum
>>531692935
No. You like what you like, no reason to force yourself to play something you're not enjoying, just drop it, it's merely a game

I don't like the rt spam but at least it keeps these threads active.
Splitting off into rtg will just turn this place into one of those generals we have to bump from page 10 every hour just to keep it alive. I like the little community of autists and schizos we have here, it would suck if it died.
I'm not going back to vrpg, that place is miserable.

>>531693193
>Solid projectile weapons
I wanted to use eldar/deldar weapons, aren't they all laser?

>>531692935
The time is ripe for a mudcore 40k game. Maybe set in a hive city

Loving the art style of Banquet for Fools, any idea when it's releasing?

>>531693276
Ignore the schizo, he's been seething non-stop about it for months. Just talk about what you like, rt, pathfinder, or otherwise

>>531692935
You might just not like 'open world' stuff. I'm hoping DH ends up being a bit more mission based.

>>531693013
Don't quote me on this but I think they said it will be a similar level range to the original campaign.
>>531692841
There's like a 0.1% chance it turns out good. This IP is just cursed.

>>531693310
Dark Heresy could be that, but it's made by owlcat, so, once again you're gonna be dueling chaos space marines, bending reality, and end up being the most important person in the sector, with very very special bloodline that absolutely everyone loves, and when you're not around the Lord Inquisitor Zerbe is gonna be asking "Where is Anon?"

>>531693276
It's very stupid to make an /rtg/, it will kill this general then die itself
RT spam is just because there's a new DLC, it won't always be that way

>>531693276
The general was fine before, having /rtg/ is sensible and reasonable. Relax.
You want to post about it there? Nobody's stopping you.
You want to talk about other CRPGs? Here is the place.

All good my dude.

>>531692841
>Бyдyщaя вoзмeздиe
Lol, those retards couldn't find a single russian to spell check their russian?
And, no, of course it won't be good.

>>531693276
Didn't we already have a failed RT general when the game was actually new

>>531693323
About a year from now if the update notes are anything to go by.

>>531692935
Mb it's not what you are looking for in a game rn. You can try a bit later or drop it off. The only genuinely retarded thing to do will be telling everyone that game sucks, because it's not underdog story whole way through, every time the topic brought up.

>>531692841
Name one (1) game that was in development hell that ended up being good. I'll wait

>>531693627
russia in general is kinda busy right now.

>>531693627
This is from when the original studio was lying about even having a working demo. Of course they couldn't.

To be honest, the reason why WotR is so beginner averse is because of single reason.

DRETCHES.

Imagine that you boot up your new role-playing game, and go through your tutorial. You then make your way to surface, and come face to face with the most stupid-looking little shits imaginable.
And what is their move? They spam the most effective early game CC AoE imaginable.

Thus, the first fights are watching as your entire 4-6 numbered team is stunned for half-a-minute or longer, all the while as fat versions of house elves from harry potter try their best to nibble them to death. And if they have any other demons with them (all immune to Stinking cloud ofc) you better start loading game already.
And they love to pop out of fog of war and ruin whatever plans you had. And just in case you think you can snipe them, there is propably more than one anyhow.

>inb4 Delay poison
Not available as mass version until at least level 5 at most. You'd have to waste all your spell slots to keep them up anyhow. And after you start using it Dretches turn into fucking non-entities. Not to mention that a noob propably wouldn't get the fact that Delay negs Stinking cloud completly.

Who the fuck thought that Dretches were a good idea?

lol.

I never said I was Fidelo so I've never seen any of this. There's multiple fights and a whole new area

>>531693713
Pillars of eternity.

>>531693713
Most crpgs

>>531692841
That is a very jewish face. I guess they were right when they said that vampires are a metaphor for jews

I'm now convinced that Arue is built for GD since you can Demon -> Dahak GD and she still continues the romance.

>>531693613
>You want to post about it there? Nobody's stopping you.
>You want to talk about other CRPGs? Here is the place.
There is a hidden third option that you have overlooked

>>531693809
>you will never be nauseated by a dretch cloud while they work your pussy and ass, grunting like little piggies

>>531693310
A hive city game would be really cool, like Necromunda: Hired Gun but good.
>gangs
>chaos cults
>genestealer cults
So many opportunities

>>531694048
Don't act like you're rebelling against something, nobody's stopping you

But the better place is >>>/vg/rtg/

>>531693810
Yep it's actually more interesting this way

>>531693276
Every major cRPG release will take majority of the thread, it's natural. Only needs separation in cases like Baldur's Gate 3 or Helldivers 2 where it's that much more posts and people interested only in that particular game. b4 RT everyone only talked about Wrath here
>>531693640
Yeah, I think it managed to be semi alive for 3 months, then everyone was done with the game

>>531693832
It wasn't in development hell though
>>531693810
>Pasqal has a list of bad organizations and good organizations

Sorry
not posting in the cuck thread

>>531694207
>It wasn't in development hell though
They push backed the release date like 15 times because they kept meeting new stretch goals on kick starter.

>>531693298
OK different planet start then. I just think it's a good feat

>>531693809
I don't think dretches even use stink clowd on lower difficulties on lower levels. My first playthrough was on daring and I could have sworn that they only started using them in Drezen. On core though they use it as early as the undergournd maze

Azata summon/pet party, who's my KC
Also how do I respec and who's in my main party
I'm thinking:
ulbrig, ember, sosiel, arue, .. seelah? Not sure

>>531694113
>So many opportunities
Oh yes, indeed
>>531694358
That's not exactly what devlopment hell is

>>531694207
>>531694358
You might want to consider trying the Rogue Trader general for more answers

>>531694576
>so desperate he's not even reading the posts he's replying to

>>531694113
>>531694535
>Hive City crpg will finally be the game that gives xenofuckers an ork companion
Would be pretty funny

>>531694386
I think I'll use the mod that adds more planets to the game. There's one that's perfect for a greedmaxxer crime lord.
OWLCAT I WANT MORE REACTIVITY FOR MY PLANET OF ORIGIN! And fix the goddamn companions! All of them bar 2 are from imperial worlds - that's just boring!

Is Look Outside a /crpg/?

>>531693713
half life 3

>>531690802
Same, I stopped playing as soon as I realized it's something I want to buy
That's how I am with all games
Eye on Swordhaven, Solasta2, BfF especially

>>531693713
Duke Nukem Forever

>>531694840
I have not played it. Is it?

>>531693809
It's more of an overwhelming amount of information without any way to know what is important or not. Choose wrong options and you are stuck. Didn't have multiple saves to roll back to? gg no re start whole game over
Also I think paladin gets lay on hands with buffs against stench available to players just as you exit the underground and the game suggests you pick it.
>>531694407
Yeah, it's only on core. Don't have to worry about any disable effects until much later below core difficulty.

>>531694950
It was defintiely not good

>>531694035
That is correct.

>>531694840
>western RPG maker game
i guess so

>>531694468
Being some kind of skald and having your companions summon might be better for azata. Daeran can be a pretty good summoner with nature.
I was a court poet for my azata playthrough but inciter would probably be really good for summon buffing.

>>531694998
Lay on hands only removes an effect that is already in place. It does not give you any immunity to it

>>531693713
Wayward Realms

>>531694840
At first I thought no, but fuck it I think it's western enough to be a CRPG.

>>531694048
The hidden secret third option is to ignore the obvious schizoid

wait we got our own general now?
fuck ya

>>531694961
Yes, it's good

>>531695553
No we didn't lol, the schizo made it in a hopeless attempt to kill this general

>>531695678
you're responding to the person who made the other thread.

>>531695553
That's not pasqal btw, that's Abel

Why do "they" post like such a sub-human shit eating tranimal? I never see them post screenshots or talk about the crpgs they are playing, all they do is complain. I'm pretty sure they don't play any videogames at all and only exist to shit up this thread.

>>531695854
Yeah, probably

>>531696010
>>531695854
Please stop trolling and creating drama.
Nobody's stopping you from talking about RT but you will have better response in the RT general:
>>531685620
>>>/vg/rtg/

I'm actually enjoying RT's "minigame" so far. Scanning planets makes me nostalgic for mass effect and the ship combat doesn't seem so bad.
Anything's better than crusade management at least.

>>531695910
Abdel Adrian, the human fighter?

>>531696652
That's cool, you might have better luck discussing this in the Rogue Trader general:
>>531685620

yep its time to boot up the potential crpg of the year.

>>531696652
It's definitely an improvement. It helps that it actually has useful rewards that help you in regular gameplay instead of unit buffs for a mode you're already stomping.

>>531696652
It's pretty fun, I like the little story elements that pop up occasionally

>>531696946
me on the right

About to play Pentiment, anything I should know without spoilers?

>>531694998
>>531695198
>Also I think paladin gets lay on hands with buffs against stench available to players just as you exit the underground and the game suggests you pick it.

That's the piece of shit ornament atop the shit cake. You have the tools to do something about Stink cloud, but guess what? Your dolly didn't pass the fortitude save and cannot use any of them! And guess what, once you fail the save once, you are in a world of shit for the next 4-6 rounds.
Even stupid bullshit like hold person and grease let you save once each round, but once you fail against stink cloud it sticks with you to the next fucking combat. And even if you pass it once, there is propably 1-3 more dretches ready to drop additional contignency stink clouds on you to make sure whole team is nauseated.
Imagine if there was enemy type whose only ability was spamming grease.
It's even worse in Through the ashes. It's almost relief that the ones in Ivory labyrinth only explode

>>531697138
This pic will never not make me laugh, it's so good

>>531697138
>Your dolly didn't pass the fortitude save and cannot use any of them! And guess what, once you fail the save once, you are in a world of shit for the next 4-6 rounds.
>Even stupid bullshit like hold person and grease let you save once each round, but once you fail against stink cloud it sticks with you to the next fucking combat. And even if you pass it once, there is propably 1-3 more dretches ready to drop additional contignency stink clouds on you to make sure whole team is nauseated.
>Imagine if there was enemy type whose only ability was spamming grease.
This post was written by everything I fought in Kingmaker.

Would you read a story about a rogue trader secretly putting a halo device on a space marine while they were knocked due to injuries?

>>531696652
>Scanning planets makes me nostalgic for mass effect
Thank God I wasn't the only one who enjoyed Mass Effect's scanning game. Of course It's much more streamlines in RT.
I agree that they seem to be improving with the mini-games. I wonder what they'll cook up for DH. I hope we'll finally be able to extensively customize our hub though

>>531697115
No. Just play the game, it's excellent. Consider doing a postthrough here. Those are always fun regardless of the game

>>531697506
No, unless there's sex involved

>>531697138
That's just the world of status afflictions though bro. You can Remove Sickness, you can do a Communal poisonal whatever and it's no thing, buddy babe.
You can also afflict these things on your enemies, you take Corruptor and fart some selective stinking clouds and now the tides have turned aven't they?
You say to your monitor: "Now who's in the fart cloud." You repeat it, louder: "NOW who's in the fart cloud".
This is the power you can wield, it's all in your hands. You just have to make the right choices, if you're nauseated from the stink cloud I don't know what to tell you friend, you already fucked up and could have prepared for it.
At this point it's your own choice, and I just don't know what to say to you about that.

>>531696946
Why is he T-posing?

Hi 40k friends, let's all go to the new >>>/vg/rtg/ thread! It's super neat!
PS I am not a crackpot

>>531697740
If only there was an anti-wings equivalent to corruptor so I could once again be the pit mage.

>>531697928
I mean, obvious shitpost aside, sounds good to me

WoTR got DLCs/expansions yeah? We're they any good?

>>531697823
it's the "POWER.... DO YOU WANT IT?" pose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NK0wjTGDHY

>>531697740
I know all of that. The original post was about how there is this nasty spot in Act 1, where you don't have access to proper tools to counter it and how infuriating that can be.

It's all about action economy. It doesn't really matter if you can spend level 2 spell-slot to temporarily remove effects of Stink on single target - and the caster needs to not be nauseated to cast them - which is hard considering that stink cloud is the size of entire screen. And there will always be more dretches, each of them capable of throwing down.
And delay poison is on fixed ten-minute duration so it will not last if you want to move on city map.
Communal Delay Poison is pretty much only thing that allows you to skip it efficently enough.

>>531696946
Looks interesting, I hope its good.
>>531697515
I preferred actually landing on the planets and exploring them in me1 but scanning was still comfy.
I loved reading all the flavor text about the different planets

to anyone who has played the demo i did the book personality test and this is what i got, are these stats good enough? or is the game not to hard so i dont need to worry about optimizing.

>>531696652
The sound when you discover something on a planet is the same sound in mass effect when you recover an item. It had to be on purpose.

>>531698169
This is a repost.

>Worth it
Sarkorian DLC. Ulbrig is a companion with his own quest and locale and brings a new class with him (plus his unique archetype. Simple, fitting and has funny interjections, honestly.

>Good value
Dance of masks: If you like the characters, you get more scenes with them. An okay story quest and a battle focused arena for some flexing. Real value is extra archetypes. Pretty fun

Lord of nothing : Decent mid level campaign. Nothing amazing , but new areas are interesting with their own gimmicks for puzzles/encounters. The boss you get in the main campaign is fun.

Midnight Isles (standalone). If you enjoy trying archetypes and team compositions, you will enjoy playing runs here. Otherwise, ignore it. Some of the conditions/traps are also interesting to deal with for a roguelike adventure. The main campaign implementation kinda sucks and fucks over progression to your favor a bit too much.

>Polarizing
Through the ashes. not just low level, but survival adventure where fighting is very disadvantageous. I enjoy the concept and trying to keep everyone alive is a decent challenge, but clunky isometric ,movement Owlcat style make it hard.. Adds nothing to the main campaign as well and aside for two instances, not really needed to play it's sequel in Lord of Nothing

>Essentially Trash
Inevitable Excess. 'Post' endgame campaign , max rank/level. You get like 90% of your encounters being the same two groups of enemies with immunities Galu Style and Owlcat puzzle design that is IMO worse than the Enigma (some of the tileset crunching there was enjoyed by a few). You do not get to enjoy the story that has barely time to do something interesting with it's concept. At least the two final boss fights are kinda cool and it has another Darkness superboss. . Barely worth a pirate.

If you are just pirating, get Sarkorian, Lord of nothing and Dance of Masks to unlock the classes/ archetypes even if you are not planning on playing them.

Damn this dress up mod is fun. I will have to make even more characters now

>>531698169
They're okay. Ulbrig is the only one I'd 100% recommend.
Inevitable excess just exists to be a bandaid for complaints that you didn't get to play around with max level much, midnight isles is too fucking long but has some good rewards, and dance of masks is a citadel style fanservice epilogue. Dance of masks is probably worth it for the new subclasses alone.
The dlc goes on sale decently often.

>>531698554
You forgot to mention that Lord of Nothing and Through the Ashes are about litterally whos, not you MC

>>531698736
That bothers some people but not others.
For me it's S tier. Same as Varnhould's Lot.

crpgs where I can romance cute elves?

>>531698664
It's also the only way to get some implants. This is what I don't gete about owlshart: the models are already in the game, and npcs are using them, so why the fuck couldn't I customize my character to have a bionic arm or leg during charcater creation. A literally who modder can do it, but """""""""proffessinals"""""""""" that are getting apid for it can't?

>>531697515
>Of course It's much more streamlines in RT.
Is it?
It felt like pointless busywork in ME2. Minigame for the sake of a minigame. Here you have to decide where to put Extractiums to benefit your realm, characters remark on planets you visit and almost always there is some story and decision attached to them. And it fits Rogue Trader, while it felt like a random addition in ME2 unsuited to Spectre

>>531694840
No, it's a JRPG. Completely different genre.

>>531698861
That still should be mentioned, because it might be a deal breaker for some
>>531698902
Yeah, it is. In RT you just press 1 button and done - the planet's scanned giving you all the points of interest immediately. In mass effect you had to pixel hunt basically

>>531698892
m-maybe with implants dlc it will be added

>>531698867
BG2

>>531698892
Because they're going to sell you that feature in a dlc.

>>531699048
>paying for owlshart content
Wew, couldn't be me. I'll just take it for free as befits a Rogue Trader

>>531696652
Yeah, it's fun. A nice break between fighting warp demons. I hope that if they do a roguelike mode in this one, it incorporates the space game.

>>531699025
>wins the 'not ruined by modern writing bowl'

>>531699179
I saw Charname and Aerie making babies and the baby looked at me

>>531699002
Weren't implants announceed as a feature in one of future DLCs?
>>531698867
BG2, DAO, DA2

>>531699438
Yeah the next one

>>531699125
>he isn't lawful good

>>531699438
Yes, that's the thing. In next one with Tranzyn. I think Implants may be working more like in Kenshi with them replacing your limbs etc permanently. Once you get rid off an arm you won't be able to just unequip implant without equipping next one

>>531699518
There is nothing lawful about giving money to unscrupulous merchants who have deceived you many times already

>>531699438
>romance cute elves
>DAO

How good is RT coop? I realize it won't be Divinity/BG3 but is it playable? I'm mostly concerned about fights, most of my players would actually prefer one guy talking for us all. Does everyone control their character freely outside of combat? What happens if someone triggers dialogue or walks into fights far away from the group?

>>531699586
>Once you get rid off an arm you won't be able to just unequip implant without equipping next one
That would be ideal, but I doubt owlkeks would do it. There'd be a lot of screeching from femoids and trannies. But imagine if you cut off your hand and then remove the implant so your character model is now running around with a stump, also two-handed weapons become Unavailable to you.
I think either it will be a simple addition to character creation (so no mechanical changed to the game), Or you'll just be able to change them freely - maybe they won't even be reflected on your model like accessories. Count on owlkek to take the easiest route

>>531699753
Oh, and most importantly - I assume everyone has to own the DLCs?

>>531699753
I didn't even know RT had co-op

>>531699639
Zevran is very cute, and objectively the best husband in the game.
I still sometimes accidentally call Daeran Zevran even though i haven't played DAO in a decade

>>531699753
It's an arbitrary shoe-in they cocked up in 5 seconds because of BG3. Nobody plays rt in co-op. If you expect it to be like larian's co-op, then you're gonna be disapopinted

>>531699840
>>531699753
Probably better to ask in the RT general for specific information:
>>531685620
>>>/vg/rtg

>>531699808
>remove the implant so your character model is now running around with a stump, also two-handed weapons become Unavailable to you.
>have leg implant
>drukeks of course remove them when you get caught
>you now can only crawl around until Malice fixes you up with some low quality peglegs
That would be so fucking kino I would immediately buy the game

>>531700136
I just did.
>>531700053
I figured but between this and other co-op RPGs it really seems like the next best thing if you already played Larian stuff.

>>531699808
Damn, it would be fucking disappointing and a complete nonfeature if they did it like this. I want some fucking commitment and to see results of my choices

>go into dads study that i was never allowed into as a kid since he died mysteriously
>book on how to become a mummy in a world were liches exist
hhhmmmm....

>>531700710
>daddy wants to become a mummy
wtf tranny shit

>>531700710
>that note
i wonder what really happened to my dad.

>>531699753
I've played the RT coop a lot.

The other players can walk around the map but they cannot start dialogue, it just goes right to the main character. People can click on which dialogue option they want you to select and their little portrait is next to that option, but all dialogue is in the hands of the captain, it's not a vote.

You can give every player as many characters as they want. Meaning you can give them Abelard/Argenta/etc/etc in addition to their custom mercenary character. They will follow and mover according to that player's formation.

If someone walks into a fight, the fight will start with everyone in the spots they're in, which can be very bad if people were wandering around. So make sure you collect everyone before you walk to fights.

All the other players characters take a nap while you're on the bridge of the ship, so only the captain character walks on the ship, until you go to the map or the elevator to go to one of the ship areas. Basically, the other players don't exist until you select a party to add them to when the game does the "select party" screen before leaving the bridge.

All other players choose a rank 2 alignment and don't change past that, just like a mercenary you hire from Janrus.

All in all, I do enjoy it, but mostly because I love RT and my group is accommodating of jank. BG3 really spoiled everyone when it comes to multiplayer since everyone's character was separate and could do quests and combats and even dialogue completely separate from each other. But if you like RT and accommodate some jank then RT coop is fun.

>>531700710
>book on how to become a mummy
It is a world-shattering to realize your father was into mpreg.

The options in wotr are kinda overwhelming. What's a good face class I can roll for a first-time playthrough to get used to the system?

>>531700840
Truly a mystery. Perhaps we will never find out.

I certainly hope that one of the main features in the upcoming big patch is a complete game rebalance, both in terms of difficulty and in terms of experience gain. I don't want to be hitting exemplar 200 hours before starting act 3

>>531700143
You should play Kenshi.

>>531700846
>People can click on which dialogue option they want you to select and their little portrait is next to that option, but all dialogue is in the hands of the captain, it's not a vote.
This sounds cute.

Kenabres has fallen, the missive says. The grim gnome crumples it in his hands.
Yaker approaches: "Sir, what news?"
Regill: "Assemble some men, Yaker, we ride for Kenabres."
Yaker nods, the clang of his fist against his armor in salute almost immediate.
Regill, looking into the distant rising sun: "Kenabres has fallen."
Yaker grows pale: "P-paralictor?"
Regill begins assembling goods and amor: "We do not ride with vengeance, however. No."
Yaker completes the fastening of Regill's armor upon his beast.
Regill: "We ride now with Wrath."
Yaker continues, but his hands a little slower.
Regill grasps his hand, firm as his superior, but gently as his lover.
Regill: "The Wrath... Of the Righteous."
>camera down to earth, black, title screen
>"Ahhh ahhhh ah-ahhhhhh....."

>>531701030
They've already said the next major patch is a balance patch

>>531700958
For starters, you do not really need to be the face yourself, others can pass charisma checks for you.
Secondly, you can pass persuasion checks even with a non-max cha character.
Regardless, if you want Charisma to be a somewhat relevant stat:

>Angel run
Play paladin or Oracle
>Non Angel Run
Bard, Skald Bloodrager, Sorcerer (do not play an archetype that switches casting stat).

There are more classes and archetypes that use Cha, but I think for a pure class run, you are better of with these

>>531701216
>but gently as his lover.
You fucking ruined it aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>531700846
>BG3 really spoiled everyone when it comes to multiplayer since everyone's character was separate and could do quests and combats and even dialogue completely separate from each other.
Honestly I had hoped for something different from that. Late BG3 my group started going off doing their own random shit because they could and it took effort to usher them towards stuff in some semblance of order. Can characters be redistributed on the fly?
Thanks for answering. I'm mostly wondering because I've started a new playthrough since I haven't checked out the DLC yet and thought it might be fun to get my friends to play with me, but there's also the issue of getting them to actually pay for the game and it's DLCs.

follow up in my dads casual book shelf in his second study he has books and notes on
>where to find devil wood
>rare magic creatures in this world that guard devil wood
>notes comparing magic creatures he fought in the army to creatures guarding devil wood for possible weaknesses

>>531701030
>>531701248
I do wonder how can they even accomplish it
After playing on unfair+ so battles have some difficulty to them at least until a bit into act 2 it really extends game a lot. And RT is already long. And will be even longer with two more dlcs. As sad and boring as it is, being able to rush through battles with alpha striking one-shotting of enemies kinda works in game favor in this regard now.

And what with people not having dlcs? Or having only Void Shadows or only Lex Imperialis? And this same with 2 more dlcs. Separate balance for every possible combination of a base game + dlcs? How do you balance encounters and xp gain around this?

>>531700846
D-do your friends watch you have sex?

Did they ever let you play the lich path without becoming fully evil in WoTR? Playing around with the idea of booting it up again, and liches are just neat.
what about going for the Legend path after doing some lich things. Is Legend even good?

>>531701038
>build a system where all character animations and available actions account for missing limbs, and the stumps are properly rendered on the character model
>never bother to add an option to amputate limbs through dialogue with the many surgeons found in bars all over the world
>if you don't get your limbs chopped off by accident, you either need to feed them to horrid man-eating bugmen, or place yourself into a giant potato peeler until they fall off.
Kenshi is something else

>>531701447
Non-DLC buyers are second grade citizens and do not deserve balance.

>>531701510
Legend is technically the better late game conversion path.
It is not great

>>531701520
Can't wait for Kenshi 2 desu

>>531701447
Nobody's stopping you from posting here, but you might find more relevant posts in the Rogue Trader General: >>531685620

>>531701636
I am thankful that after nearly 2 decades of posting here, I have not become the kind of autist who behaves like this or posts frogs/jacks

>>531701612
I'm sure it won't be long now.

>>531701636
Can you start using a trip? Thanks in advance.

>>531701757
?
Pointing people to a helpful resource? Is this a schizo thing?

Oh he’s actually upset.
He really wants people to post in his blatant “go here I don’t heckin’ want to see this specific CRPG in /crpgg/“ containment thread.

For those who ccome after have played it already - how is Necromancer's Tale?

>>531701038
I looked into it, but the internet says it's a strategy action game, so I'm not sure

The Necromancer's Tale looks very cool, but I don't want to play a tactical turn-based game, it's gay

>>531702086
Well, you know what that means, don't you?
>>531702150
It's turn-based? Picked the fuck up

>>531702086
Did you mean to respond to me?
Not to get off-topic here, but are you doing ok?
You can talk about whatever you want, but /rtg/ is a good place to specifically talk about RT. It seems like that's what you're mad about?

Relax. Everything's fine.

>>531702140
>action
It has strategy elements (you can choose to play as multiple characters at once instead of a loner) but it’s RTwP.

>>531702291
>RTwP
Oh no. I couldn't even play Tyranny because of that despite the fact that it looked very interesting from what little I've played

>>531701327
yes characters can be moved around who controls them from the ESC menu of the host.

everyone does not need the dlc's. You can turn off the dlc's that you own and play with your friends who don't own the dlc, in a save that has the dlc turned off for everyone. The only thing you can't do is have people that don't own the dlc playing in a lobby that has the dlc turned on. It'll prevent the game from starting until everyone turns it off or everyone buys it.
The one exception to this is the preorder and special edition dlc's, those are active for the host if the host has them and the other people don't need to own those, since it would be a hassle since not all of those are available. So this all only applies to the actual void shadow and lex imperi dlc.

>>531701451
Everyone in the lobby does everything the captain does. So yes, they'll watch all your romance dialogue.
In my coop games my friend who had never played before was the captain and he romanced Cassia.

Jae is cute!
I don't care that she's a deceiver

>>531702452
It doesn’t have prebuffing or any of that shit, it’s more like a colony sim except you can directly control the characters. It also has a TES-esque skill system where you get better by doing things relating to the skill.

>>531702462
I'd make my guy have gay sex with Marazhai so that all my bros have no choice but to endure it

Got too cocky after mass murdering the not-fallout people and moved directly to Pulura's Falls.
Demons fighting undead, destroyed them both.
Got to some doors, ezpz Schurs and Babaus, then BOOM out of nowhere fucking gallo whatevers and giant goddamn wreckers of some sort.
Almost held on, but KC died, almost still held on after but then the one person who'd be able to get to KC and Raise Dead/Resurrect scroll died...
Now, I try again more cautiously. If things go tits up again, fine, I'll rest and even pre-buff if it gets to that. Cool area, that I forgot about from when I played through before.
I remember hating the lore stuff here as Angel, but I never finished the Angel run because it was dull. I do remember that you can meet Nurah here again, but I fed her to Cam already.

>>531702462
>Everyone in the lobby does everything the captain does. So yes, they'll watch all your romance dialogue.
>In my coop games my friend who had never played before was the captain and he romanced Cassia.
>le shy noble girl
>gets gang banged by the Lord Captain and his friends
Whore

I really want to continue my QFG playthrough, but 4 feels like such an autumn game, and I'll likely never play it again in my life.

>>531703240
>like such an autumn game,
?

>>531703393
it's all pumpkins and spooky and east european

Have you ever done a psyless normalfag playthrough?
On unfair?

>>531703620
Does using Cassia count for psyker? If yes, then no

How is overseer Cassia?

>>531703620
>>531703660
Might not be aware but we finally have a RT general, brothers: >>531685620

>>531703620
>No Idira, no Jimmy
I couldn't possibly. They are the best 2 companions

>>531702140
It's like you have an RTS game running on a huge map, with squads belonging to different factions patrolling around and sometimes fighting each other, but instead of a big faction you control an independent group of 1 to 30 people. With mods you can get up to 256 people, though most computers can't actually handle that many. You can wander around fighting people, or build towns and defend them against raiders. There's no story and no quests, apart from what you choose to do.
It could be argued that it's an RPG, based on its mechanics, but it's really nothing like any other RPG I've played.

>>531703620
Yeah, I've beaten grimdark unfair twice as noble-officer.

>>531703724
I don't think you can take psyber raven with her, so that leaves her with servoskulls and an eagle. Pretty meh. Though that eagle skill that makes him attack every time an enemy attacks a tank is pretty insane

>>531703724
I can't see a reason to take it on her. She just wants to go all in on navigator stuff.

>>531703789
Did you have Idira, Heinrix, or Cassia on your team? If yes, then you haven't beat the game

>>531703724
Bad. Idira and full-support officer MC are the only classes that benefit from Overseer bigly. Maybe Pasqal too. Everybody else is better off with another archetype. You could make a case for a buff/healslut Jimmy, but I feel like that's a waste of his stats and warrior class

How is that newer overseer class/background in Rogue Trader? Would it mesh well with an officer psyker donut?

>>531704146
I only have God Emprah in my party while playing. I've beaten the game.

>>531704420
>Would it mesh well with an officer psyker donut?
It would be extemely broken, but I would either go psyker, or officer - they need different pets to unleash their full potential

Who is Jimmy? I don't remember a Jimmy

>>531704519
Newfags everywhere

>>531704519
My husband. Don't worry about him

>>531704146
Funny enough, yeah actually. My most used guys are the guys on the top row here. They're who I beat the game with for the final fight, and who I used most often. Jimmy, Idira, and Cass were actually among my least used characters.

Your next line will probably be that if you used the astartes you didn't beat the game.
In any case, I'm pretty satisfied with my beaten-the-game criteria.

Right now my planned challenge playthrough to make the game more difficult is to make everyone who can possibly be one into an overseer. I think noble-officer-overseer is simply worse than noble-officer-strategist and I think Pasqal is stronger as a tactician than an overseer and I also think any frontliner is better as an archmilitant than an overseer (including Jimmy, despite the aoe biomancer buffs) so all in all it would be a challenge run compared to running all optimized classes.

If I could, I would make Argenta, Yrliet, and Kibelah into Overseers too, but owlcat doesn't let you.

>>531704715
>Your next line will probably be that if you used the astartes you didn't beat the game.
No, why would it? The question was specifically about usig psykers. Congratulations, you hvae beaten the game

Why the fuck were the threads split the second I went to sleep

>>531705094
A schizo is having a meltie. Ignore the other thread

>>531704715
>I think noble-officer-overseer is simply worse than noble-officer-strategist
Maybe in single target buff dapartment, but overseer would allow you to only buff your entire party in a single turn, and spend the rest of the game shooting, not to mention the insane momentum you'd gain by giving everyone Air of Authority

>>531704420
Raven would work if you want to do a pure buffbot but you're going to be spread pretty thin. The servo skulls should work nicely with sanctic since sanctic doesn't need a whole lot to get going.

>>531703724
I gave her an eagle, and it's fun. The strafing run is a nice complement to her navigator powers.

Does Advice and Guidance get redistributed by the raven after the last patch or not? I know they fixed the skulls so they now correctly redistribute officer talents, but I don't remember seeing anyone saying the same about the raven

>>531704420
The raven turns your single-target psy abilities into area effects.
The skull swarm turns your single-target officer abilites into area effects.
You need to pick one, but either is probably going to be very good.

>>531701447
They need to tone down the XP they give
I'm currently lvl36 and not even in cumrag yet

>>531706414
That does not solve the problem anon has outlined. How do you balance it out for people who don't have DLC, or only have some of them?

>what if we gave privateers some of the highest levels of nobel privileges
What was the emperor thinking when he made rogue traders?

>>531705094
Aruetroon is crashing out

Owlcat should just add more level bloat. After memexemplars they should add a new tier of archetypes based on your alignment.

>>531706620
He was getting rid of them
>here you go buddy now be Louis XIV in space at the edge of the galaxy

>>531706620
He was thinking
>these retards are so fucking annoying, but murdering them all is a hassle and a waste of resources. I know! I'll exile them all into bumfuckwhere while pretending i bestow some sort of honoraburu job onto them. Malcador! Fetch me a parchment and some ink!
You have to remember that rogue traders don't have any special priviliges inside the imperium and are just run of the mill nobles there

>>531706523
They should get the DLC?

Exemplar is such a generic nothing class is it a class in the table top? And if so there has got to be more than one tier three archetype to choose from that owlcat can add in.

Do I play WoTR again after 3+ years (probably some hunter/slayer build going into Lich/maybe Legend) or psyker it up in RT with overseer?

>>531707230
>is it a class in the table top?
No, it's wholly an owlkek invention. Classes in tabletop don't work like in the game anyway

>>531707361
Why not both?

>>531707361
Dunno, which game did you like more?

>>531707446
I don't think my computer can run both at the same time

Why doesn't humanity just leave the milky way in 40k? it seems like more trouble than its worth.

>>531707528
>Just leave your home, bro
No

>>531707528
And become pathetic has beens like eldar? No, we have to fight for it

Wait 40k only takes place in the milky way? You have magic space warping ships, humanity should be trying to conqure every known galaxy.

>>531707507
WoTR was fun, really liked the crusade mechanic (reminded me of the GOAT Heroes of Might and Magic 3), and my knowledge of ttrpg pathfinder was nice.

Rogue Trader really hooks me until I'm left to just go do my own shit in space. The game almost loses all sense of urgency as it shifts from explosions and survival to fixing your trade empire and getting raped in ship combat. That being said, I really like psykers. Like a lot

>>531707825
Sounds like a job for Rogue trader

>>531707961
Sounds like you should be playing wotr then, and maybe try Darktide for the psyker stuff

>>531707528
I don't think the Emperor's light goes that far and I don't think they can move him or his golden throne. While not outright stated, I think it's commonly implied that everything outside of the milky way is even more fucked

>>531708136
It has already been nommed by the tyrandis

>>531707825
I think some missions have been sent to Andromeda but it's a long way

>>531708103
>and maybe try Darktide for the psyker stuff
Not enough RPG for me and I'm stuck playing with randoms

>>531708210
Like I said, even more fucked

>>531707825
It took thousands of years to "unite" the galaxy and shit like tyranid comes from beyond it. You really wanna go to fucking andromeda or smthng? who knows what's out there.

>>531708382
>who knows what's out there.
Human made horrors beyond our comprehension

>>531707825
The warp goes slow outside the milky way. You need currents in the warp to propel a ship.

>>531708612
If we put a bunch of people on space crafts, send them outside of the galaxy in a line one after enough and they will die upset there, will that make warp move quicker along that chain of chain deaths?

Will Dark Heresy have iconotranimalism?

>Break up with Leliana
>come back to camp after some adventuring
>still seething
Kek, I do appreciate the game is more realistic than Owlcat's "After the confrontation event every girl gets amnesia".

>>531707528
There are horrors out there

>>531709583
I'm sure you'll find something to endlessly seethe about

>>531709583
No, they decided that it's retarded and removed alignmant shart in favor of radicalism/puritanism. As it should have been from the start

>>531708612
>>531709242
Like this?

>>531709242
Why does it have to be humans? Eldar souls are much more potent

Anyone here tried the demo for that samurai crpg owlcat is publishing?

>>531709885
Humans are easier for the Imperium to exploit

>>531709918
It wasn't a demo, it was a closed alpha

>>531710087
Looks like there's a demo now

>>531710218
Then play it and let us know

I want to play around with psyker overseer. What kind of weapon loadout should I go for?

>>531710452
A staff

What does /crpg/ think the best talents are in rogue trader?

Starting out, but so far Hive World Weapon Personalization, Solid Projectile Weapons Expert, Voidborn's Jinx, Cassia's talent that lowers Veil Degradation, and Idira's talent that reduces veil degradation with psychic powers

>>531710636
Staves are kind of gay when I could be swinging swords and shooting guns.

Archery is garbage in Dragon Age Origins, should I just respec Leliana to be a dual dagger rogue?

Dragon Age Origins was cool. I remember being a battlemage with like 5 auras that when combined would murder all trash mobs as I entered a room, restored both health and mana, and buffed my weapons so I could beat anything not already dead to death. Shit was cash back when games weren't afraid to let magic be cool

>>531710725
Tons of talents are good, some more universal, others for specific builds and weapons.

From common ones, swift movements is an easy early pick. Non psykers and non-officers should likely consider picking up Aeldari/drukhari equipment if they are not forbodden from it.
Nomble is something most characters can appreciate, and if you do not get bothered by the extra clicks, grenadier always makes things easier.

Assuming you do not reload/cheat on toybox, skill talents can be useful for that aspect, plus a few characters and equipment bonuses appreciate the extra points. Same for a few cases with characteristics (like reaching 100 perception for operatives).

Which stat is better for a Psyker Overseer?

>Kiss Kaitlyn
>-8 approval
Morrigan fucking hated that, it's kind of fun pissing her off.

what does Lethality do? it has the worst tooltip I've seen in the game

>>531710829
I just went for a force sword with a foehammer on my Pyro Psyker, I almost never used the foehammer.

>>531711716
WP always for Psykers

>>531712616
It's based on either dodge or dodge reception (aka, Agility or Per based).
It fuels Assassin talents and abilities.
Think of it as a unique extra modifier Assassin slaps into thing

>>531712660
Actually, now that I think about it, why didn't they just make staves one handed.

>>531712320
Remember to kiss Bella at the inn too
The cucking will continue until she stops being an edgelord

>>531712795
but fuels it how? does it improve damage, crit chance, crit dmg %, armor penetration..?

>>531712994
Yes.

>>531713204
t-thanks owlcat..

>>531710963
It does get better once she starts critting constantly and archery is much better in awakening. Obviously nothing is going to compete with dual dagger rogue though if you want her to delete stuff.

>mfw anon gets to DA:O final battle without leveling or gearing half the companions

>>531712994
Fuels whatever the ability or talent says it does.
Do you have more than 100 Lethality? Refund AP.
Did the attack connect? Take lethality/10 rending damage next turn

>dropped BG1 3 months ago just as I got into Baldur's Gate
>decide to pick it back up
>I have no idea what the fuck is going on
This should be fun.

>>531714173
Just re-read your journal to get back into the right mindset

>>531713994
My first playthrough I pretty much solo’d a lot of the final battle by spamming storm of the century

>>531714173
Lemme guess:
>Khalid
>Jaheira
>Xan
>Imoen
>Kagain
>MC

>>531713994
I still remember fucking up all the companion quests in Ass Effect 2 save for finding Jacob's deadbeat dad, which resulted in Jacob being the sole survivor.

>>531714238
Good point. That should set me on track, I just looked at the quest list.

>>531714550
5/6, pretty good. That's Yeslick. I spent most of the game with a free 6th slot because I didn't vibe with any of the the weirdos I met

I'm playing RT. I don't know where I got this cape that gives me bonus damage based on temporary wounds and adds 5 temp wounds on hit. This shit is OP

>mfw I got mauled to death by a pack of Mabiri hounds
holy shit

>>531715590
It’s great on Abelard.

>rogue trader split off but didn't take pathfinders with it this time
why? not like crpg was too fast.

>>531715993
I actually use it on Kibellah with Reckless Abandon. Makes her hit like a truck

>>531716401
The schizo only hates RT

>>531716476
She doesn't even need it. Bitch deals like a 100 direct damage through Excutioner's bleeding.

>>531716559
so it's not anons who want a separate space for RT, but a schizo who doesn't want RT here?

>>531716401
You'll be back, soon, you'll see
You'll remember you belong to me
You'll be back, time will tell
You'll remember that I served you well
Oceans rise, empires fall
We have seen each other through it all
And when push comes to shove
I will send a fully armed battalion to remind you of my love!

>>531716401
It's just one seethoid trying to force RT out of what he considers "his" general. It's completely inorganic

>>531716716
I wish anonymity didn't attract so many freaks

>>531716716
for fuck's sake, if people want other shit to be talked about here, they should talk about it instead of bitching about what's being said because of course it would be, being new

>>531716648
Yes, it's some fag. The other thread attracted the attention of a couple of new anons just starting out RT, but I don't expect it'll become a lasting thing.

>>531716648
Why would we give a fuck?
I think they only game anons ever wanted gone was BG3 and that's because of a bunch of schizos who were obnoxious about it.

>>531716839
its just circumsized americans who are this autistic online.

>>531716716
>what he considers "his" general
Heh, I've been in this general since it's inception, but this doesn't give me the right to say who can or cannot stay.

Finished Mass Effect 3, Jack was "I can fix her" done right. Only downside was she barely has any content in ME3. Tali is still the best though.

The voidship combat part of the UI is so annoying. I can't see the actual range of the weapons in the equipment menu? I can't see the cooldown of the missiles? It's so fucking lame

Splitting a general never really works, especially when this general isn't even that big to begin with. Also we did have a owlcat general at some point but it died within a year because you can only talk about three games so much.

>>531717241
>Tali is still the best though
Eh. I don't feel her. She's too much of a waifubait for me, similarly to Liara. But then I was always going for Ashley/ Miranda.
Wish Kasumi was romanceable.

>>531717434
Well, /crpgg/ was made as an offshoot of a Kingmaker general that later evolved into... well, this. I remember people just started randomly talking about other cRPGs in that general and now here we are.

>>531717241
>>531717557
Ashley/Miranda are best waifus. Do not tolerate xeno scum. Except for Garrus, he gets a pass

>>531717557
>Kasumi
What a weirdly written character. she's supposed to hung up on her dead boyfriend who was the only love of her life but then some writer came along and went full BLACKED.com with her since she literally obsesses over Jacob nonstop.

>>531717764
I'd say Miranda is overall the best pick for Shepard, if only she joined as a squadmate in ME3 like originally intended I feel like she'd be up there with Tali for the general waifufag consensus.

>>531717557
For me it's Samara. It's so short and sweet.

>>531717910
>she'd be up there with Tali for the general waifufag consensus
no she wouldn't due to the simple fact that at some point she was fucking jacob. this isn't just schizo headcanon either, jacob straight up tells you after you do his loyalty quest.

>>531717764
Ashley is Jacob tier bad after ME1. The thing she is in ME3 doesn’t even resemble her.

>>531717910
There is a mod for that.
Also, Altered Assassin is another must-have kino mod.

...I need to replay Mass Effect at one point. I think that series grew on me over the years.

Lair of the shadow broker is still the best ME romance

Gods, I wish the eventual ME4 wasn't doomed to be dogshit. That series deserves better.

>>531718894
People shit on her but I do think Liara is great. However they ruined her in ME3. The fact that you have to remind this blue retard that you're in a relationship with her like three separate times is dumb.

I notice more DA talk than usual in this general.

Definitely not complaining, I stayed up until 3am playing DAO and only got three hours of sleep for work

>>531714754
sheesh, you must have been dicking around a lot. I remember trying to get as many companions dead as possible and and it was challenging.

>>531719207
DA:O is actually really good. But similarly to VtMB, I can't get back to it, because I've played it so many times I can recite entire dialogues from memory.

>>531719084
That’s just a gameplay mechanic thing because of fucked flags and people starting with me3 for some reason

>>531719386
Miranda is borderline impossible to kill if you want to kill only her and nobody else, unless you use a very specific set of companions.

>>531719626
Liara's flags were fucked since ME1. I remember her always starting a romance with you even if you turned her down, because some flag wasn't working properly.
I'll never forget a stalker yandere Liara hounding me throughout the ship going "what about our love, Shepard", while my Shepard was getting increasingly confused what this bitch is going on about.

>>531719386
I don’t think you even can finish the game with only one person alive.

>>531719460
I like DA:O because of how complete it feels. The companions are plentiful and entertaining, the gameplay does its job (and doesn't use a fucking tabletop system). The story is nicely wrapped up without noticable cut content, or nonsense plot points to push it together and has a clean ending. While I may not love all parts of it, there is none that I hate.

>>531717764
Remember when Ashley said: "Human or Alien, we are all just animals." She was such a selfless and caring woman.
>>531718394
You should play it. There is still nothing like it and many characters are iconic

>>531720089
The story might be the most generic Bioware story since NWN1, but honestly it was working for me. And I wasn't playing for the story, I was playing for the companions, because they were so likeable. Leliana is still a top-tier waifu for me. She's sweet and kind, but she's not a moeblob like Liara.

>>531719935
It’s even funnier that she’ll acknowledge you’ve picked a new romance in ME2 and then completely forget about it in ME3 and act like you were still together

>>531686417 (OP)
do you have to romance kibellah to turn her iconoclast?

>>531720349
Bioware was smart and went hard on the worldbuilding while making the actual story fairly self-contained and straightforward. It’s no surprise that them trying to adopt the scope creep of their other games sunk the franchise.

>>531720015
Well, I wasn't counting Joker and what's her name

>>531720806
Romance and Alignment do interject, but you can turn her into whatever regardless of fucking

>>531720349
The story really works because you're not as much of a free agent as in their previous games. The game puts you into the ranks of they Grey Wardens, something much larger than yourself and places that duty on you. The stakes are somewhat personal, you want to get Loghain for his betrayal, but that still takes the back seat to dealing with the Blight. That combined with the origins system creates a very well fleshed out role for you to play while still giving you some freedom. It's just lightning in a bottle to me.
Obsidian got close to it with Tyranny but that was an unfinished piece of shit, unfortunately.

>get to the gene stealer ambush
>they try to make it scary with the stealers dropping from the ceiling as you try to run to the exit
>except they're coded to run away like bitches at half health which makes the whole thing look like a joke
Don't know what they were thinking with this

I wanna smooch her.

>>531720806
>be femtrader throwing myself at Jimmy at every opportunity
>try to be nice to Kibellah and help her out of her turbo autism
>invite her to a party, pay attention and be kind to her as I would do for a female friend
>she now wants to scissor me
playersexual romances were a fucking mistake. I blame larian

Why do these guys want jeans so much

>>531721652
>you want to get Loghain for his betrayal,
Eh, about that. He's voiced by Simon Templeman, therefore he did nothing wrong.

>>531720349
DAO companions > BG3 companions

Important people mixed with normies, vs "I'm basically an agent of God, let's fuck"

>>531722032
Eh, I do like Shadowheart and to some extent Astarion, but yeah, BG3 doesn't have this sense of friendship and camraderie DA:O has. Mostly because everybody's an asshole aside from Karlach and Selunite Shadowheart.
There is also Wyll, I guess, but he's just Jacob 2.0.

>>531721729

>>531721652
>be surana
>literal who elf stuck in denerim alienage as a child
>oops you're getting sent to the circle
>turns 18
>oops you're going to become a grey warden
>oops you have to go against the government and kill a demon dragon
>oops you have to lead an entire organization
I feel bad for my character

>>531722461
Joining the wardens seems like a pretty good deal for a mage

>>531722012
I won't comment on rights, or wrongs, but I will say that he's my favourite companion, despite his recruitment being somewhat nonsensical. Great redemption arc if he sacrifices himself for his country and his dialogues in the camp especially if you're unexpectedly amiable to him are fantastic.

>>531722461
Mage Origin is the only origin in which you can weasel yourself out of being a Grey Warden because Duncan has no leverage on you. So Duncan just recruits you by force and drags you out of the Circle kicking and screaming.

>>531721848
Bro, she has emotional development of a cultist, any sort of friendly attention = sex to her.
But you are right of course, playersexual is the main thing. I'm fine with that tho, people are clueless, end up gay or missing the romance entirely when romantic options have any sort of subtlty.
I keked when you get a scene with Cassia in the library and after she leaves there is a "Romance for nobles, a guide" book on the table, you can read.

I have this in my Steam family share library and I want to give it a try. I've never played a D&D game before. What is a good class to aim for? I was thinking paladin. Also, anything else I should know? Otherwise I'm gonna go in completely blind.

>>531722653
His banter with Zevran is pure gold.
>Ser Loghain, I am the assassin you hired to kill the Grey Warden
>Sure, and?
>I am sad to report I failed in my task.
>...thank you kindly for informing me.

>>531722790
It's not like my mage was particularly unhappy about being able to leave the je- ehm I mean templar daycare for mages

>>531722956
Don’t start with nwn. The original campaign is incredibly mediocre.

>>531721909
Anon said last thread that I can't wear cargo shorts no more, because spending all my time behind of the computer doesn't count as marriage, and being married is the only time cargo shorts are allowed. So I'm looking for jeans now, it's a matter of culture and having pants at all.

>>531722956
Paladin is really good, any melee class will be pretty effective and good for a beginner.
Protip, skip the wailing death campaign, its pretty dull.
Start with shadow of undrentide and hordes of the underdark.

>>531722956
What another anons have said, you can play original a bit to get a feel for it as a tutorial, but it's very much meh. Devs haven't mastered the map making tools yet, it's a proof of concept at best.

>>531723231
That isn't saying much since Theodora dies in like 30 minutes

>>531723231
Finally, a slow rise to power instead of an immediate one

>>531722956
Paladins and clerics are good, since they have a lot of self-buffs or inherent perks

>>531723231
who the fuck says "poppa"

>>531723184
>>531723512
What do you recommend instead, then?

>>531723315
Thx anon

>>531722851
I think bisexual characters are mostly fine albeit unrealistic in their overrepresentation amongst RPG companions. the problem is that devs are fucking lazy and implement the exact same romance for straight and gay couples without any nuance. it's completely normal for two female friends to go to a party and take a walk alone to gossip or to go the restroom. this scene might have romantic undertones for kibbles + male trader but it caught me completely off guard.

>>531723773
Yeah and especially kibbles should have had an entirely different vibe for a male and female trader

>>531723596
In a modern crpg? I wouldn't hold my breath.

>>531722956
If you're really not sure what you're getting into I'd recommend cleric. It's the do everything class. They can fight in melee well, have a ton of buffs and more importantly utility spells like detecting invisible enemies, curing poison and disease, magic resistance, allowing you to react to what other classes would have to prepare for.
If you want to have access to all available weapons take 1 level of Fighter. It won't slow down your spellcasting too much.

>>531723773
i laughed so fucking hard when ulbrig proposed to me
what a fag

>>531723892
Why would she? She’s trained to view you the same way regardless of who you are.

>>531724150
Her romance is about going outside the training

>>531722032
It really stood out to me how samey the BG3 companions were. Other than the obvious, being hot and playersexual, they all had this conflict with an authority figure/servant of evil thing going on. Astarion with Cazador, Karlach with Zariel, Wyll with Mizora, Bae'Zel with Vlaakith and Shart with Shar. It was absolutely uncanny.
If it was supposed to be some sort of a theme going on in the game it absolutely fell flat for me so much that my favourite companion ended up being Jaheira.

>>531724667
Forgot to add Gale and Mystra, who kinda breaks the mold by not being evil, but still fits.

>>531723596
Although I prefer more gradual power fantasies instead of immediate rises to power, Owlcat really knows how to fellate the player just right and make you feel like the most important person in whichever room you walk into. The Minagho fight while this is playing is a top 10 CRPG moment for me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uITaghKWMMM

>>531724229
And how would that differ

Anybody here playing tactical D&D mods?

It's really the ultimate challenge in the D&D realm. There is nothing else out there. No other game, definitely not the newest release, and no other Baldurs Gate 2 mod either. SCS simply doesn't cut it if you are looking for a challenge.
I uploaded a few videos here if anybody wants to have a taste, the mod is called Improved Anvil:

https://odysee.com/@Githzerai:e/Kangaxx:a

https://odysee.com/@Githzerai:e/Ancient-Lich:d

https://odysee.com/@Githzerai:e/Troll-Mound:d

https://odysee.com/@Githzerai:e/Guarded-Compound:4

I see now why people were using the Fade skip mod

>>531686417 (OP)
luv me old art

Shit, I guess I posted in the wrong thread. Reposting here.
>>531686417 (OP)
Going to give the Overseer archetype a shot after being a forever officer donut. I'm also planning to be a psyker, probably starting with biomancy.

What initial archetype should I go for? Soldier for some extra attack shenanigans? Warrior for some extra durability and melee buffs? I always somehow end up running sword and pistol when it comes to weapons, but shields seem pretty cool so I might commit to just one weapon type.

Probably going to keep Abelard, Jae, and Cassia in my party more often than not.

is the second pathfinder game more mature than the first one or is it just a case of teenage edge? writing in pretty much every modern crpg except the first pillars of eternity makes me roll my eyes. dark urge in BG3 was alright, if not for the fact that being evil locks you out of half the content

>>531729592
No, people just aren't yet aware we now have a /rtg/

>>531730312
demons are demons

>>531729592
Soldier is better for if you’re planning on mostly using powers and staves for damage.

remember how hard they buffed pyromancy?

>>531730519
Some are also just being stubborn/dramatic and refusing to use the general I think

>>531730519
Oh.
>>531732050
Staves just kind of seem boring desu. I don't want to be completely dependent on my powers for damage

>>531732161
Is it better than sanctic yet?

>>531732541
>>531732161
>>531732050
>>>/vg/rtg/

>>531685620
We finally have our own general boys, let's fuckin goooooo

>>531732673
fuck off retard

>>531732673
kys

>>531732434
If you take pyro soldier they’ll eclipse everything else. Warrior will be better if you actually want to melee.

Does Swordhaven post any development news? Is there any projected release date?

>>531732673
Nice, glad to see it

>>531732789
>>531732830
Why so salty?

>>531733301
Could you at least make your samefagging less obvious

>>531733002
Is there a shooty psyker combo, or is it basically either powers 24/7 or melee synergy? I know psykers can be crazy strong, but I also don't want to explode the veil constantly

>>531733678
Not really. I mean they can use the same stats but none of the psyker stuff is really made for guns. I guess there’s nothing stopping you from only using psyker buffs and building for guns like normal.

>>531733301
>>531732673
it'll take some time for them to get used to it, but it's for the best

good job killing both threads. half-breed american retards. mutts.

>>531734214
/rtg/ would be thriving if some people weren't being stubborn for no reason

>>531733678
>but I also don't want to explode the veil constantly
just use Cassia, she makes the veil irrelevant

>>531734337
kill yourself autistic troon

>>531714173
post more bg1

>>531734337
it's just seething since an anon who doesn't like RT seems to have started it, so this makes some people dig their heels in despite it being a legitimately better situation. They cross their arms and put on their pouty face and say "no!" defiantly.
You can see how many RT posts there are in this thread since the inception of /rtg/, it will do just fine once they unclench their assholes a bit.

No, Icewind Dale

why does he keep samefagging like we all don't see it

I am going to keep posting about RT and Dark Heresy here and you can do nothing about it lil retard

Can a rogue trader decide to retire? Or do they have to constantly explore the galaxy?

>>531736026
I assume if you have an heir lined up, you could

My xenos pet cannot be this cute

>>531736421
>Please be patient I have asuryani-tism

>>531736026
Most likely. If there were other heirs alive near you could probably pass on the title in the beginning of the game. If you keep pestering Abelard about not wanting to be a RT you get a game over as he acknowledges your refusal.

>Jimmy tells my cute elf to shut the fuck up when she was complimenting him on not being a psychopath
You just got permanently benched, faggot

>>531736794
Kiava Gamma. GO!

7 posts that could be bumping /rtg/
Personally I hope they move, /crpgg/ has been intolerable ever since I guess some DLC dropped or whatever. I don't even bother skimming the thread anymore it's so tedious.

>>531736794
Based jimmy, FUCK the x*nos

Time that could be used to start roping instead.

>>531737223
Yeah that's where it happened. As soon as we touched the chaos machine, I sent him back to the ship and fought the final boss with someone else.

>>531737225
This is so sad. You always hear about mass post of one game affecting other generals. But you never think they are gonna affect your general.
My thoughts and prayers goes to the victims and their families.

>anons talking about Necromancer's Tale awhile back
>remember I have the demo
>it was only for that whatever event
balls, I should've tried it.
It's fully released and not in EA? Not many reviews but they're positive.

How many hours play, roughly?

>>531737621
Speaking of Kiava Gamma, how do the events change depending on which planet you do first? I did Janus -> KG -> Vheabos VI on my first run.

>>531738876
Not that I've seen other than people on Dargonus saying "Crazy shit is going on at Janus and KG" and you can say "yeah I know"

>>531739065
So you still arrive after the heretek takeover even if you do KG first?

>>531740581
yeah

take it to /rtg/ retards

>>531707825
Andromeda was conquered by Orks already. All that can be heard from it is WAAAAGH

Silent King claims that he conquered much when he was away, presumably in some other Galaxy. He is probably bullshitting tho

Whatever galaxy Tyranids are from, is safe to be assumed to be devoured already knowing them. They absorbed it and it's essentially galaxy worth of Nids attacking Milky Way from "below"

>>531741407
>Whatever galaxy Tyranids are from, is safe to be assumed to be devoured already knowing them. They absorbed it and it's essentially galaxy worth of Nids attacking Milky Way from "below"
There's also some implication that they're fleeing from something. So that's fun.

>>531741553
>>531741407
you have a general, use it

People are talking about a crpg in the crpg general? How could that be!

>>531738463
It's fully released. So far it's fun.
The game is ugly as fuck, but it has some good writing so far.

>>531741807
The general (You) made you mean?

>>531741553
It's one guy within the setting hypothesis, but it was never expanded on. It's most likely wrong, just like Nids being made by Old Ones/Necrons.

>>531741807
Let it go, Rogue Trader is a CRPG and CRPGs belong here.

>>531741969
That sounds great. I don't mind ugly graphics as long as the writing and other things are good.
Is there combat? What's the mechanics like? Any out of combat skills and checks and so on?

>Look up that new Pathfinder crpg
>they're making it mimic the AP exactly by only letting you go to level 8
Now this has got to be the dumbest decision I've ever seen

>>531742539
I could see it working it if they're goal is to actually make a roleplaying experience that's more considerate of more options instead of a straight up powerfantasy. Now there's a difference between a goal and what's achievable thoguh.

>>531742539
is that the one where they make the characters look like minis with bases and stuff?

>>531742768
Form the looks of it , it seems like they're going a lot more for "digital version of the adventure path" than "computer game based on the adventure path"
>>531742894
yup

>>531743123
>That dragon
Man they really shouldn't look worse than how PF did a decade ago. Sure it's a different studio but come on.

>>531735638
Anon I don't want to worry you but there's an orc in your party...

>>531723057
Mine didn't either, I just think about how they pretty much had their life decided for them because of uncontrollable traits/circumstances

>>531703240
QFG4 is the pinnacle of the series, you should really play through it.

>>531743313
style choice unfortunately, they want everything to look like plastic models

>>531743520
During heated moments between people, will the bump the heads of the figures together?

>>531722595
>a whole war that irreversibly changed the lives of mages in Thedas started because of a fucking cat

>>531743438
I have, when I was a kid. It was my favorite too, so silly as it seems it means a lot to me.
My QFG3 was a heart-break for that reason actually. First one I played, and actually one of the first videogames I ever played. It did not really live up to its memory haha.
Also looking forward to the voice acting, I missed that somehow as a kid, probably too shitty a computer.

>>531743123
>even more literally playing with dolls
I don't know how I feel about this. It might depend if they have animation or remain static.

>>531744060
Didn't they release one game already?
Probably same routine

>>531744060
If they're meant to be figs then obviously not. Which just makes this a really weird game to play.

>>531744060
*action figures

>>531735638
I love the music for the town so much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B92P1-OUNJo
>Jeremy Soule
huh, never knew

>>531743358
It's fine, he is one of the good ones, natural fighter-thief.

Took a lot of restrain to not make most of the party orcs actually, they are really good for stats and background doesn't mater much in the game. All the dialog choices are either "ok, we'll help" or "I'll fucking kill you all motherfucker and rape your corpses"

>>531744060
They remain static but have dynamic poses for swimming, climbing, flying, being grappled, etc

>>531744690
>restrain
With those stats lol?

>>531743908
Yes, QFG3 is the worst one by far. Very subpar content with a plot that doesn't tie into the overarching story and the lions and Africans are just not interesting. The only fun part of the game for me was Sekhmets Temple but they did a better version of that with the Tarot reading in the Gypsy Camp in QFG4 anyways.

>both threads completely dead
good job you autistic retards

>>531743908
Also the voice acting in QFG4 is amazing, especially for the time, everyone did a great job, especially the narrator.

>>531749465
How doesn't it tie into the overall story of you foiling Avoozl? Especially if you take the paladin pill.

>>531750032
The Demons have nothing to do with Avoozl, they're a side problem that exists only in QFG3 and they are far more relevant to Rakeesh's story than yours. QFG 1 and 2 end up having direct tie ins to QFG4 (Baba Yaga, Ad Avis) QFG3 has nothing.

>>531750745
Don't they? I remember distinctly reading (and seeing the credits from 2) that Coles planned to have Ad Avis as the big bad in 3 but decided to cut it because they also did the VGA release of 1 in 1992. Sucks they cut the planned thieves guild.

And don't get me wrong, I agree it's the weakest of the games but I still quite love it despite that.

>>531748018
Yeah, well, it's only one min-maxed orc, innit?
And I took only 2 multi-classed casters this time and no mage at all at least until level 7. Didn't even get rolls above 90 on each character.

>>531751730
Yeah it's still a decent game it's just not up to par compared with the rest of the series. It felt like the only content path they finished was the Fighter/Paladin, and even that was subpar compared to QFG2. I mean in QFG2 you get the Fighters Guild subquest, training with Rakeesh, and the duel with the general at the end as a Fighter. In QFG3 you get to do the Simbani Warriors test and that's it.

As a Thief in QFG2 you get to do jobs in Shapeir, find the Raven in Raseir, get unique interactions with NPCs no one else gets in the process, and finally a completely different end game where you sneak through the harem instead of going the more direct routes. You get absolutely NOTHING in QFG3 as a Thief. And as a Magic-User in QFG2 you get to become a full fledged Wizard and have the most content rich sidequest in the game in doing so. You get the Mage duel in QFG3 and that's it. It's really clear QFG3 was a game that had whatever content was planned for it massively cut back.

>>531742224
>Is there combat?
Yes, your typical turn based affair. But if you don't like the combat, you can just turn it off and just deal with conversations and investigations.
>What's the mechanics like?
So far, it reminds of more story driven Arcanum with a tinge of Disco Elysium.
>Any out of combat skills and checks and so on?
Metric fuckton of them. The game has this very strong investigative vibe going on at the moment.
So far, the game is shaping up to be really decent. But I've only played an hour or two of it, so I don't want to oversell it. It has a bit of that Black Geyser vibe where you can tell the devs were really trying, but I wouldn't be suprised if the game falls apart halfway through because they run out of budget.

>>531752465
>It's really clear QFG3 was a game that had whatever content was planned for it massively cut back.
For sure. It's a shame too because I actually really enjoyed some of the promise it had, and the region. I thought the manufactured conflict thing was actually pretty neat, maybe it's a little weak but I liked it anyhow.
Didn't like how nonexistent any real risk is though. No reason to buy rations at all, enemies easy in battle and even easier to just choose to run from.
Seems like they enjoyed (or felt the need to, who knows) reinventing combat every game. It will be interesting to see how I feel about the arcade style in 4.
Also this cock tease should have given us some room service

>>531752465
You get to make a mage staff but yeah. Can't really argue what you're saying.

>>531753454
She's happily married with kids. Schizo.

>>531753914
Oh I know

>>531692841
didn't their publisher outright say it was shit and they weren't touching the genre ever again

>>531753454
>>531754123
Goddamn tease intentionally leading on a pure hearted hero just so she can brag to her husband she's still hot.

>>531752465
>absolutely NOTHING in QFG3 as a Thief
You can sneak into the chieftain's hut but that's pretty much it yeah.
I remember wondering when I played if there was another area of Tarna planned.

Reminder that Imoen loves you

>Jennifer English: I'm destined to play characters that have a special relationship with wolves
what

>>531754358
No, they fired the original design team and now the new dev team will be releasing their version soon. It's completely up in the air as to whether it will be even decent, but hopes are low since WoD is a cursed IP and VtMB was a miracle that will likely never be replicated. The newest build does at least look significantly better than the first one they showed, old build is on top the second one is the latest, so they at least made the protagonist not so hideous.

>>531754792
You just know.

>>531701216
Canon

>>531754792
keep up. old man

>>531755107
>Queer, gay and a lesbian
Is she also a woman, female and girl too?

>>531755107
How is that relevant?

so what setting do you anons think we are getting

>>531754814
Wasn't the whole premise of this sequel something insane like playing as a newly awakened Elder?

>>531755345
Expeditions: Suburban Ohio

>>531755275
on all levels except physicals, she is a wolf

>>531755345
Choina
We'll be doing cultivation and shit

>>531755426
>not getting knotted by a wolf as we speak
casuals

>>531755420
Could work

>>531754792
white women really do

>>531754737
Imoen really should have been an actual romance, your childhood friend that stays loyal to you no matter what and who becomes the damsel in distress you valiantly save in the second game. Massively missed opportunity on Biowares part.

Where are they!?

>>531756614
A beggar has them in the early segment of commoragh (before you even meet Malice)

>>531755409
That's still the premise. You are an awakened Elder who has woken from torpor and you start getting involved in the politics of the clans who all want you as an ally since you're extremely powerful and could be the asset that gets them ahead. Supposedly you are going to determine the flow of the story by how you respond to dialogue, as well, so if you for example act like a vicious, psychopathic Elder the NPCs in the game will start treating you that way, whereas if you're diplomatic and pleasant, they'll react differently, etc. We'll see if they actually pulled it off when the game comes out, claims of reactivity are always overblown with games like these.

>>531755345
Expeditions: Britannia, where you are working for the Dutch East India company and you travel around the world expanding the British Empire.

>>531755345
Expeditions: 40k

>>531756710
Did I miss my chance to get my boots back if I neglected to speak to every beggar?

>>531757048
No, he is specifically called an Ugly Beggar

>>531757048
Just try to speak to every beggar now?
Not sure if it's a lost cause, I just remember when I got them, honestly

/rtg/ is over this way >>531685620

>>531757048

>>531757391
>Abeldard

Exactly why is Marazhai a thousand times better written than Yrliet? I thought when I played through the game up until I got him in the retinue that Owlcats writers simply cannot write xenos characters, but he's actually one of the best in the game. Was it just Yrliets writer being an incompetent hack? They ought to fire whoever wrote her, easily the worst character in the game by far. I don't know how you can fuck up something as easy as Craftworld Eldar and then actually pull off something hard like Dark Eldar, and not see the vast gulf in writing talent. Then again that's typical of Owlcat games, some companions are miles ahead of the rest in every game they've made so far. Better consistency and a more even curve on the companions writing would be nice to see in Dark Heresy, but somehow I doubt it.

>Abelard
>Argenta
>Heinrix
>Pasqal
>Cassia
I want to take Solomorne to Commorraagghh but yrlikek is locked in the party since its part of her companion quest and neither one of them can effectively replace anyone in my party. what do

9 posts that could have bumped /rtg/ if you weren't so stubborn for no reason

>>531757915
>Liking Marzipan
Shut up you femoid.

>>531757117
>>531757139
Oh thank the Emperor I found him, my honor is safe for now
Must have walked past him half a dozen times by now without noticing he had a different name

Is this game really so hard to mod that still, to this day, there is no Argenta romance mod? Obviously everyone wants and desires it, so why has it not been made? Puzzling stuff.

>>531758063
/rtg/ will be dead in a week once the dlc hype wears off. why bother switching now

>>531758037
>I want to take Solomorne to Commorraagghh
Nothing fucking happens.

>>531758037
don't bring argenta, she doesn't do anything interesting there

>>531757915
>Exactly why is Marazhai a thousand times better written than Yrliet?
because you are gay and into bdsm, duh

>>531758063
for people who claim to be the lifeblood of /crpgg/, they certainly can't keep a general alive

>>531758334

I'd like to note that Cassia is one of only 3 (THREE!) kind, sweet, and adorable virgin romances in the entire history of CRPGs. Why this is so rare is beyond me.

>>531758514
Virginity is overrated. I'm over lvl 30 and still hasn't gotten my levitation powers

>>531758037
All that you get for taking Solomorne is him crying about his dog, which is honestly incredibly pathetic, and the dialogue chain where you determine his conviction path. Go nuts if you feel like that's content worth seeing. If you want to make a cut drop Abelard or Pasqal, they have nothing story critical to their paths there. I would also say Cassia, if you're not romancing her, but since everyone romances Cassia, that's not possible, so yeah.

>>531758719
Skill issue.

>>531758123
>>531758391
Why do you faggots try this deflection every time? He's a well written character and it has nothing to do with his romance content, which 90% of players will never see, he's just got great banter with the rest of the party, his dialogue chains are actually interesting and give real insight into how the Drukhari work, and his companion quest gives you the final insight on what was going on with all the raids into your demesne. Actually great character, easily top three in the game, only outdone by Pasqal and Abelard.

I love warhammer 40k

>>531758514
What is the third one?

Bending jae over in my quarters and making idira watch.

are we being raided by /rtg/?

fuck pathfinder niggers

>>531759263
kill yourself you autistic homosexual stop trying to force shit

>>531759486
Based.

So it's pretty much agreed that Pasqal is the best written character Owlcat ever made, right? Maybe Jubilost could contend with him, but even then, I would give the crown to Pasqal in the end. It's incredible what a standout he is even in an overall stellar cast (minus Yrliet, anyway).

>he even changed the OP to include garbage like specific generals
>he even spammed the space marine 2 general announcing his new shill thread
what a total fucking sperg lmao

15 posts that could have bumped /rtg/

>b-but it's not enough that I post about something I like, I also have to be cancerous about it!

>>531758791
she is always nearby desu

>>531758514
>laughs in heinrix

>>531759721
stop samefagging and trying to force shit, retarded faggot, youve been doing it literally all day, how pathetic

why are half-orcs fine but not full orcs

>>531760104
funny way to spell orks

>>531760104
full orcs are evil and XP fodder

>endless RT slop all at once
jesus christ, is this a coordinated effort?
You have a general, use it:

>>>/vg/rtg/
>>531685620

>>531760104
Same reason half and halfs are fine but not full blooded ones aren't okay irl.

>>531759858
Virginity is not a valued or attractive trait in males, only females.

>>531757915
>>531759039
I can tell you are an elf faglord because you can't help yourself and start your dick-sucking essays with insulting someone in a first sentence.

>>531760203
youre one weird obnoxious faggot, kill yourself pajeet

I am fortifying this general, I hope that weird pathfinder troon kills himself

>Durge can't fuck Orin
Why are all these weird relationship dynamics crammed into CRPGs but not the most upfront ones?

When we examine the data in picture related, what we can really extrapolate from it is that the true failures, companion wise, were Marazhai, Jae, and Idira. Of course characters that come into the game in later acts will have a lower pickrate, so factoring that in, Idira did ABYSMALLY terrible, since she was in as early as both Abelard and Argenta, yet has a near 30% drop below the two of them.

Similarly, Jae comes in even BEFORE Yrliet, and just shortly after Heinrix (in fact you'll likely get Jae back before Heinrix if you full clear Footfall before returning to the docks) yet her pick rate is quite low. And finally, look at Marazhai, who is a full 30% lower than Ulfar, despite both being available in the same act.

Why do you guys think those three characters, in particular, failed to resonate with most players?

>spamming space marine 2 general with your forced thread split
kill yourself retard you are extremely pathetic

>>531760296
I'm still not seeing any actual arguments against Marazhai being a great character, faggot. As usual the people talking shit about Marazhai know nothing about him since they never experienced his content even a single time.

>>531760852
>2 came in too late when your team is likely already established
>Jae is "problematic" to be around
>Also explains why Idira and Heinrix and Yrliet are trailing behind
>Top 4 are "clean" and don't have much baggage
>>531760895
>>531760647
What the fuck's going on? Is the schizo trying to bait other generals now?
Fairly simple really.

>>531760852
idira is the early heretical companion in a game all about shooting people for not being as devoted to the emperor as you are. she's also one of the best companions in rogue trader I don't care what a popularity poll says

>>531760852
>Marzipan
most players are straight men
>Jae
mogged hard by Cassia
>Idira
well...

>>531760852
>idira is a nigger that kills herself every other fight
>jae has an officer build moonlighting as a soldier
>marazhai is not only a late pick companion, but an easily missed one due to dialogue
>he also has a melee assassin build (terrible) and some restricted gear slots
its not hard to figure out

>>531760173
funny way to spell green niggers

>>531761151
>Is the schizo trying to bait other generals now?
yes I woke up today and saw he made posts advertising the forced RT thread in other generals on /vg/, see for yourself >>531686689
what a pathetic faggot

>>531761151
>Jae is "problematic" to be around
Explain. She's no more of a problem than any of the other members of your retinue, and in fact significantly less so in most cases. Also I don't see why you think Heinrix is problematic to have around, arguments can, though, be made for Idira and Yrliet being logistical issues for any sensible Rogue Trader.

>>531761279
Statistical data renders your personal opinion irrelevant, she is a marked and notable failure as a companion character.

>>531760852
I like Idira after giving her a chance, but the whole 'ONLY LOSERS LEARN TO CONTROL THEIR POWERS' and Heretical talk at the start make it really easy to just let Argenta kill her when she summons Daemons.

>talk about rogue trader
>discuss rogue trader
>ignore other rogue trader threads
>rogue trading is love
>rogue trading is life

>>531760852
You're more of a pinhead than you think.
>mara - missable, also pure evil
>jae - hilariously easily missable
>ulfar - missable
>idira - you can only take 5 companions (realistically 1 because of the arg-pasq-abel-cass core, realistically 0 because you're either an empirefag (heinrix) or a ayliumfag (yrliet) for the final slot), and this one is a schizophrenic heretic that kills herself and summons 300 HP demons at level 4
Idira is great, but the party size is gay and heretic playthroughs aren't popular. Literally simple as.

>>531761668
Her antics especially if romanced can easily rub people off terribly. I know there's a fair bit of complaints out there about he she "raped" your RT once you finish her first story segment.
>Heinrix
If you're not going dogmatic, people will butt heads with him. Not problematic in the sense that he's terrible to have around, but more on he'll disagree with you often.

>>531761340
>Marazhai
I really do not get the insistence by all these people that Marazhai is for homosexuals and women, he's just an edgelord, and an entertaining one at that.

>Jae
What does Cassia have to do with Jae? We're not comparing romances, this is just companion pick rates, and Cassia doesn't even really fulfill the Officer role (outside of Finest Hour) she just uses Navigator abilities anyway, she's not really a replacement for Jae at all mechanically as a result.

>Idira
Ekun'dayo was very popular so that reasoning doesn't bear itself out.

Noticable shift in the general right about here >>531756614

>>531761354
>Idira
Perils are an asset once you learn how to use them. I'll grant that there are many players who absolutely hate RNG of any kind though, so yeah that probably factors in.

>Jae
Yeah I actually agree with you, her build is schizophrenic, she should've either been a full on Officer supporter or a full on gunslinger Soldier. Instead she goes halfway in both directions failing to fulfill either one as satisfactorily as she could have. Which is ironically the exact same issue her story content has.

>Marazhai
It's not REALLY that hard to miss recruiting him, if anything he's easier than Ulfar since you don't have to trade materials to get him. His build is terrible though yeah.

>>531762278
take your meds schizo, your forced thread failed and everyone sees through your samefagging

>>531761704
I think Idira really suffers from basically being the only Heretically aligned companion in the entire retinue up until Act 4.

>warhammerfags shit up the rpg, coop, and total war generals
now we just need a 40k gacha to complete the circle

>>531761942
You're basically arguing that Idira is the true standout failure since she's the only one you can't miss and yet her pickrate is in the gutter even so.

>>531762776
>schizo finally loses it
yesss

>>531762776
What is it about 40slop that attracts this kind of people?

>>531762886
These were fun to use in DoW. A bit broken though but that's just how artilleries go.

>>531693809
Nah wotr has an issue with trash mobs littered all over the place. Its a good thing bg3 and divinity os 2 barely have any trash fights that waste your time

>>531759691
He's based but he's no Daeran

>>531761151
>Came in too late
This is a common problem with CRPGs in general that should be addressed, the reality is that if you introduce companions late in the game nobody uses or picks them because they already have their fully established party they like. All the way back in BG1 practically no one used pic related because by the time you enter Baldurs Gate the game is likely about to be over, and why would you replace a party member at that point? Meanwhile if she had been standing on the road on the way to the Friendly Arm Inn, she would've probably been one of the top most used characters since she was a Good aligned Thief with solid stats. CRPGs really need to adjust to this reality and give you all of your companion choices at the start or very close to it if they want them all to have a fair shot at being used.

>>531762979
>>531762776
>samefag

the only one with a terrible pick rate is mazipan with 30%, idira and jae have high 60%s

>>531760852
You fags are still arguing about this. I will use whoever I want and I don't care who got voted most popular. In no universe will I ever consider Yrliet a good companion vs Jimmy.

>>531763113
Pasqal is way better than Daeran.

>>531762856
The point is that she's effectively competing for the final slot with an attractive alien woman and a dogmabro, and if you know anything about the player statistics then her pick rate makes perfect sense.

>>531763148
I find that it's an issue that will cause more problems if someone tries to "fix" them. Some people just come into your life late, and that's okay. Whether you'll have them in your journey is on you.

>>531762776
I'll take
>4 da empruhhhh
faggots over ratshitters any day

>>531760852
I'd say like this for me. I didn't forget about solomorne either, he's just not even considered.

>>531763148
Everyone loves Legion in ME2 and you get him literally 2 missions away from the endgame

>>531763526 (me)
Heh, couldn't have picked the better wrong related

>>531763192
Idira at 60% is terrible considering she's one of the first companions you get, that can't be missed. Her equivalents are Argenta and Abelard, who do much, much better than she does. She's a failure.

>>531763353
Nah if you like a character you want to experience the full content of the game with them in the party. There is genuinely no benefit to locking companion characters into a later stage of the game.

>>531763535
Yeah people love Legion and those same people also always complain about how they don't get to play with him for more than a couple missions, and how much fun it would have been to have him from the start.

>>531764050
>There is genuinely no benefit to locking companion characters into a later stage of the game.
Maybe so, but again, some people just come along late, be it for story or geographic reasons. There is just no way to avoid that reality.

>mfw split Jae in half with a greatsword

>>531764213
Of course there's a way, write them into the story earlier. There's no reason for companions to come late into a CRPG, it's just bad design and it needs to be abandoned.

Im starting to think Idira raped some anons

>>531763775
Damn, that is some shit taste, aside from your placement of Yrliet and Pasqal, that is. Imagine putting Jae and Idira over Heinrix, Cassia, and Argenta. Unreal.

>>531764458
She is
1.ugly
2.heratical
3.unsactioned
4.barley listens to orders

>>531764458
she's fun

>>531764662
I get it. She cornered you in a dark part of the ship and touched you. She said imagine that she was Argenta but you couldn't.

>>531764601
Less about liking them and more about not taking them along because they're just. that. good. That make more sense?

>>531764458
Speaking of rape, why did the Drukhari fail to rape anyone in the Commoragh section? I mean they're genuinely known for that, pic related is Vect with his human sex slave. Why wasn't this covered in game? Argenta at least should've been raped, instead of having nothing happen to her. It makes no sense.

>>531759041
I love warhammer 40k except for the actual game

>>531760852
Marazhai is a companion realistically for like 5% of playthroughs
Dogmatic character will kill him because he is a Xeno
Chaos character will him because he is an Eldar
Iconoclast will kill him because he is utterly evil person causing insane suffering for innocents
Pragmatic character who only cares for money and well being of himself and his realm will kill him because he personally fucked with your realm and then on top of this caused immense harm to you and people close to you. He can't even offer anything to you, he has no political power anymore, no Kabal or allies. Realistically you should pragmatically use him to escape from Commorragh, a place he knows and so is valuable in, and then get rid off him asap, either by feeding to Inquisition or Mandrakes or getting a revenge in some other way. And of course he is act 3 companion.

Literally only justification for sparing and recruiting him is if you are playing as a character who cares nothing for any values, good, dogmatic or heretical and can forgive transgressions against himself just to have an exotic pet.
Barring that player would have to break any roleplaying (or self inserting) for meta artificial reason of simply seeing more content. As amusing as he is, he is honestly a waste of a companion slot. At the very least he should be given some political power and then give you some visible in-game aid, so there are pragmatic reasons to ally with him.

Idira is black. She suffers from Carth syndrome of complaining all the time. Her playstyle filters people. She fucks up and is kinda dumb and naive. You can't fuck her. I like her, but it's no wonder other companions are liked more

Jae is brown. People dislike her accent. She is a blatant gold digger and an unapologetic disgusting whore, while not even being that pretty. She feels loosely connected, if at all, to story and feels more like dlc character with random sidequests. Shits out dumb marvelesqe quips too. Can't compete with coolness of others

>>531764891
(You) were, the game specifically mentions you smell of Marazhai. Interpret that however you will.

>>531764891
Pasqal got violated

>>531764891
Marazhai raped you

>>531764891
>anon's barely disguised fetish

>>531764879
Abelard is a weaker version of Heinrix in just about every way. Pasqal is a fucking Operative, nuff said. Idira is strong, yeah. Jae has a shit build that takes a bit to fix. Meanwhile you rank them above better, stronger characters in Heinrix-Cassia-Argenta, not to mention Ulfar is strong as fuck since they patched him. Yeah, your argument does not compute.

I like wild mages

How long until the 40sloppers wear themselves out on the DLC?

>>531765064
>>531765071
I mean yeah but why did it not happen to any of your companions? Also shouldn't the description of the Rogue Traders rape have been more visceral and detailed? It's pretty ridiculous that it's just inferred, and very vaguely at that. It would give the player a real reason to despise the Drukhari, and create real trauma, especially for Argenta who basically had nothing bad happen to her at all in Commoragh. I don't get why they avoided this.

>>531765115
Oh boy. I meant I don't take them BECAUSE they're stronger, as in intentionally take mechanically weaker characters instead. I know Idira doesn't really qualify for that but I actually like her.

>>531765392
What do you want me to talk about instead, you fucking retard?

>>531764871
Thanks for reminding me I forgot to add that to the list
5.she won't even fuck you

>>531765437
Most of their torments are specific but yes I would agree that Argenta got off very light compared to everyone else. Maybe it'd be too much, who knows.

>>531758037
>I want to take Solomorne to Commorraagghh
Don't bother, he's boring there
Replace Abelard with Idira imo

>>531765392
kill yourself seething mongoloid

>>531765440
Well it's hard to infer that since you placed Marazhai so low, and Yrliet as well, and they are both trash mechanically, Marazhai because of his build and Yrliet because Operative is shit. If you pick characters based on them being weaker mechanically both should be in your retinue.

>>531765437
Pasqal got violated. They didn't want to play into the people who love when Sisters get raped or murdered aka you people.

>>531757915
>Was it just Yrliets writer being an incompetent hack?
There were three writers for her iirc

>>531765579
>replace abelard with idira
eh if your bring abelard might as well bring idira too since they are the only ones that care about argenta's confession

>>531765490
I doubt I'd be interested in any discussion with you, but thanks for the offer.

>>531765392
I only started act 2 despite playing since dlc release

>>531765718
doesn't jae get essentially raped in her cumrag torture? they remove all her prosthetics

>>531760852
>Marzipan
A truly disgusting and evil xenos. Kill it with fire.
>Jae
A golddigging whore. Also annoying as fuck.
>Idira
Idira is ok, but a) she's black and b) she gets mogged by Cass. I still take her with me sometimes though.

>>531765618
I don't know. They're both quite strong if you build them right. Marzipan with dual wych knives can do some serious work as exec and operatives are good despite yrlkek trying her best to come with the shittiest pre-build possible. But I also really don't like either so I'd rather not bring anyone than either of them.

How many "be a dragon" classes are now in Wrath? And how many of them are at least ok?

>>531765559
I can get why the Psykers weren't raped, they are way too dangerous and honestly it didn't make sense that Heinrix, Cassia and Idira weren't killed outright, but that's another subject, but Abelard should've been raped, Pasqal should've been raped (I guess he kinda was) Jae should've been mega raped while she got operated on, Argenta should've have been prime entertainment raped in the arena, I mean this is what the Dark Eldar DO. It's really pathetic Owlcat didn't show this part of their culture and nature, it really makes 40K less grim and dark when they dance around key points of the setting.

>>531765807
True
Maybe drop Pasqal and Cassia instead
>Abelard
>Idira
>Argenta
>Heinrix
>Xenos Pet
>Charname

>>531766119
your best bet is to play a dragonblood sorc and take the polymorph into dragon spells when avaliable. also go gold dragon in act 5

>>531766174
Are you the guy who got made that Slaneeeshh wasn't a full out rape god.

>>531765718
Even if Argenta didn't get raped some form of torture should've occurred, her getting off basically scot free is really jarring and a weird part of Commoragh.

>>531766174
Imagine the meltdown that would've happened if you couldn't romance Argenta, but could watch her get raped by deldar

>>531766023
It's different when Jae gets raped, she can handle it. She's not particularly distressed when you find her, just mad

Has a single screenshot ever convinced you to never play a game?

>>531766374
I think the fallout would be worse if you could lol
>>531766429
Anon, she gets mindbroken enough to reveal her "secret" to you and then almost throws herself to two random guys which she kills. That's not "just distressed".

>>531766097
Executioner is the only reason Marazhai is salvageable, because it's an OP class, but his Warrior build and talents are absolute TRASH, easily the weakest character in the game before the Void Shadows DLC. Most people still Toybox respec him from zero if they're going to use him though. Operative is not salvageable, it's usable but genuinely any other class or option is better. I swear Owlcat just tested Idira when figuring out Operatives balance and her Psyker powers carried her so they didn't realize an Operative without Pysker shit is absolute ass.

>>531766360
It suits her character arc, getting away scot free while causing disaster for other people

>>531766531
That is how the average woman acts when distressed

>>531766360
I just see it as no Sister torture porn allowed

>>531766474
Is this two Roman men engaging in intellectual discussion?

>>531766474
Cleo is better and has bigger tits anyway

I'm racist af but I liked Idira

>>531758037
Use toybox to increase the party size. It doesn't break anything

Pasqual is an annoying cunt and Machine spirit banishment wasn't worth dealing with him

>>531766374
Imagine the fallout that would've occurred if you actually COULD romance Argenta, but she still got raped by Dark Eldar. Bonus points for not being able to avoid it even if she wasn't in your retinue, they grab her off your ship regardless.

>>531766692
The one on the right is a girl, tomboy fags see nothing wrong with this btw.

>>531766892
I think something like that would've made Owlcat go under lmao

>>531766765
argenta...

>>531766765
Wholesome

Dogmatic Rogue Trader forcibly impregnating Argenta with his holy seed as a reward for her faithfulness to the Emperor

raping Argenta with Marzipan....

>>531766889
Finally someone says it. His monotone whining loses its charm before the end of Rykad

>>531766765
I'm mildly racist and thought she was ok, and Ekun was literally my nigger. Seelah and Sosiel were fucking terrible however

>>531766889
Shit taste

>>531766474
those drawings make me feel super uncomfortable, both the guy on the left and the dude to his right, disgusting really

>>531766892
Ideally you'd be romancing her, but not have kissed yet.
Then she gets kidnapped and raped by deldar and generally ruined, and your relationship never becomes physical because she's so traumatized

>hating Pasqal
Such heresy will not be tolerated

>>531767284
t. Gaul

>>531766895
Oh, right, now I see it, her model has girly waist. Thought it was the infamous "Older Romans are gay for young boys" meme recreation.

>>531767323
The best thing about Pasqal is that he kills himself when you ignore his autistic ass

>>531767284
>Drawings
It's clearly pictures of real people edited to such forms. Gets that uncanny valley feeling

>>531767358
I would be called a huge faggot if my gf saw me playing that game. Like, get real faggot, those two twinks are literal homobait. So pretty, so young, so soft, mmmm, roman boy love..

>>531710725
I love Strange Vitality. I just do

>>531767406
it's somewhat appropriate since she's doing a Mulan thing to fight in the legion for some reason

>>531767545
Alarmingly homosexual mindset, how's the closet?

>>531767627
Idk, how is being out of it for you? Gonna jerk off to that dude on the right and tell yourself its alright because its a tomBOY?

>>531714754
Like, on purpose, or are you just retarded?

>>531767545
>

>>531767743
>Sees a man and a woman
>First thought is gay sex and roman twink assholes
You're a bit fruity.

>>531766580
>easily the weakest character in the game before the Void Shadows DLC
Well, yes. But now he got the ability to use far more items than on launch and slash finally works as advertised.

>Operative is not salvageable, it's usable but genuinely any other class or option is better
I really think you're selling them too low. Sure, they need to fix the lack of attacks and mobility they start with but early on two weapon combat, or shield, is quite alright. Either AS or BH fix both of those weaknesses and let them hit even harder. I mean you play how you like but I did a arbites operative RT that went assassin with a shield and absolutely had a blast. Unfair+ solo if that's relevant.

>>531767853
I look like that. And I mog you.

>wake up
>see rt general
Not this shit again. Not using it
And it's obviously created by raztard schizo

>>531767907
I see two pretty boys, which is an insult to both of them, the fag for being too pretty to be a soldier and the girl for looking like a boy. Faggot, I bet you like that dont you. Anyway those ugly portraits are enough for me to never touch the game

>>531766607
Makes zero sense regardless of "character themes".

>>531766665
Then she shouldn't have been a companion. She shouldn't be immune to how Dark Eldar work because she's a SoB, if they wanted to prevent her torture or rape they should've had her die outright fighting against the Dark Eldar to the last, if she was in your retinue when you get rused. She shouldn't just be magically immune to the consequences of being captured by the most fucked up faction in the setting.

>>531768129
>I see two pretty boys,
How can boys be pretty? Being pretty is a girl thing

>>531719207
Da is great. I will never play it again though, since I played it too much at the time

>>531768230
youre the closeted faggot who is projecting hard as fuck on me for speaking the truth right now, get lost, your game sucks

>>531768164
Why are you so obsessed with rape weirdo

daeran sexo

>>531768230
They can be pretty dead