Thread 531731121

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A thread for all vehicle simulation games: racing sims, flight sims, train sims, submarine sims, tank sims, anything else sims which do not have enough traffic to sustain their own independent generals.

>Extra attention grabbing search terms for example welcome sims
/fsg/ /dcsg/ /fsxg/ /bmsg/ /shg/ /rofg/ /etsg/ /il2g/ /lfsg/ /tsg/ /nog/

>OP Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/TxxE74ja (embed)

>Planefag pastebin:
https://rentry.co/simg

>Tankfag pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/EbdtnyPX (embed)

>Boat- and subfag pastebin
http://pastebin.com/JqTQWFFE (embed)

>Repository of various aviation related material:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3EQDvufMNdeTUh4SE9WV0txa0E&usp=drive_web

>Example of welcome sims
Falcon BMS, DCS World, Rise of Flight, IL-2, Combat Helo, Microsoft Flight Simulator, X-Plane, Euro Truck Sim, Assetto Corsa, rFactor 2, Live for Speed, SAM Simulator, Steel Beasts Pro, Steel Armor: Blaze of War, Steel Fury: Kharkov 1942, Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum, Silent Hunter, Dangerous Waters, Train Simulator, Farming Simulator 201X, OMSI 2, DiRT: Rally, Ship Simulator, NoLimits2, Nuclear Option

>Example of non-welcome games:
Arm*, Ac* C*mbat, W*r Th*nder, W*rld of _____, The S*ms, S*m C*ty, G*at S*mulat*r

>>531732309
First I've heard of this game, torpedo bombing is fun, I hope it's good.

>>531734514
Very nice, now let's see LOD4

>>531745336
nice

pretty busy at Fairford

>>531752993
Seeing a plane that size do a loop is impressive

>>531731121 (OP)
Which is the better racing car game between Forza and Grand Turisma?

>>531766535
Dunno. This is /simg/

>>531766535
Both are rather shit and not real simulators as anon before you mentioned, but if I had to choose one, probably GT.

>>531767615
>>531766869
ok what's the best flight Sim for fighter jets

>>531766535
Assetto Corsa

>>531767751
DCS

does beamng fit here. the legacy horichi sunburst looks SO much better than the new version, what the fuck were they thinking. it went from my favorite fuck around car and now its just painfully grim as fuck looking

>>531768273
Sure why not but there is a driving games thread on /o/

>>531767751
fighter jet sim? DCS.
fighter pilot sim? BMS.

>>531768273
Oh yeah, I noticed it as well. Didn't drive it much since I prefer older cars, but it's sad nonetheless. The bus is pretty cool though - I've never driven a lot of them in vidya but I'm finding steering one a lot of fun.

>>531768542
they mostly discuss arcade game though. I think that actual full blown sims (think OMSI 2, the like) should mostly stay here.

>>531768784
I agree but haven't been there so I don't know exactly what they discuss, truck and bus sims and the like definitely belong here.

>>531768784
luckily you can just, mod the legacy one back in, so really im just bitching about "getting additional cars". i guess modding will taper off of the legacy one because its no longer default.

theres also a surprising lack of derby attachments and equipment. im actually legt considering learning how to make models (again) to pump them out. very, very simple models of just diy redneck armor. it would be very simple, and easy to pump out like 10 different styles of external "roll cage", so this weekend imma start figuring it out (again).

I think this is bad

>>531775435
Also I think this is bad

Nobody is excited for IL2 Korea?

>>531783276
do your part for the red white and blue

>>531783903
>no UK
the anglo humiliation ritual never ends

Even with a 30 knot headwind and moderate load, is it realistic for a COIN aircraft to land within 200 meters, aka on carrier without arrestor gear?

>>531804527
>OV-10 Bronco has landing run of 226m or 381m at MTOW
Okay, not that unrealistic with good brakes

> $ 29.5M
>roughly blackhawk sized
>contra rotors with electric pusher props
>rotors fold to fit in destroyer heli garage
>top speed of 450 kph / 240 kts
>stub pylon with 2x AGMs, 7x Lynchpins, or 25mm flexible turrets
>side doors with 40mm grenade machine guns
>unrevealed mystery cargo that is likely UGVs
>rhombus

How are we feeling about it

>>531812367
Reminds me of the Skyvan.

goofy ass plane

>>531812367
Starting to get a little mad about these new DCS modules that ED chooses to develop. Still would like to fly it though.

>no RIAT livestream
gay

>>531752993
cute

I expected the Corsair to suck more than it does.

>>531745336
We have to go back

>>531745336
how the best doujins start. if planes can be brothers, this is one tight knit family.

>>531845675
What

Slow day for /simg/ by the look of it, many such cases.

>>531881760
that's normal operations

>>531893907
h-handholding in public spaces?! (;° ロ°)
l-lewd! (,,>﹏<,,)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wY4lHUJ1ft0
>Falcon BMS finally makes huge upgrade
>modern graphics
>new terrains
>weather
>water
>completely ignored by everyone in sim community
I do not get it

>>531897318
Less exposure perhaps, does the average DCS player know it exists?

goodnight bump

>>531907071
nn

TERRAIN

>T180s in Assetto Corsa
holy fucking BASED

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF0dZ2gaWDg

>>531899117
Probably not.
Not sure why nobody mentioned it here.
Didn't see it on the flight sim subreddits either.
I get that the devs are coders first and unpaid, so PR is nil, but I expected more organic hype given how impressive and long in coming its been.
I must just be that much of a boomer now, kids don't even know BMS exists.

>>531897318
It's definitely impressive and I look forward to trying it out in the future some time but for me, no FFB, and the only full-cockpit ground attack bird being FBW anyway means I'll still give it a miss for now. Very impressive what they've done from where they started now though.

>>531897318
>>531899117
>>531956085
>massive download
>no helicopters
>"new" aircraft
>crtl+c ctrl+v F16/F15 avionics
>shit damage models
>dead multiplayer
>clunky everything
>still kind of ugly
gee, sure wonder where all the people are

>>531970507
brb going to Syria real quick. Could I somehow fly one back into the US? What would the paperwork be like? "I legally bought it in this war torn shithole, no there's no documents"

>>531751301
I am now sure that I found your youtube account

>>531984395
>Let's Fly: M-346, Episode 7654 Part 1 of 20

Does IL-2 model non-combat malfunctions at all? I feel like the answer is no, at least for the WW1 planes. I mean you can overheat your engine and shit like that but nothing ever breaks unless bullets hit it.

>reactor is actually stable
>outer vessel water level got low
>there's been a breach and now radiation is leaking out
>can't fill the outer vessel up for some reason
>a valve has been damaged and doesn't work
>the robot is fixing the turbine that set on fire so can't fix it currently
>I'll have to go and find it in my hazmat suit and try not to die

>>531983563
Oh man it's like the Salesman on /k/ all over again.

>>531984395
impossibru
>>531984671
sign me the fuck up.

Cruising at 15,000' brought to you by third-party mods

anyone use opentrack? wondering if i should upgrade my webcam as it seems quite jittery

The weather almost makes them look like videogame renders

>>531993442
I used it until I bought trackir second hand. It does the job, but make sure you follow the guide to use it plugged in otherwise the lag is bad.

>>531993442
Lighting is everything and higher FPS cams help but there are some angles that will always suck

>>531992901
>impossibru
I found your comment under "Moving Forward With Razbam In The Future"

>>532003012
hey, at least it's one of my more tame comments

Well fuck me I've done it, 23 hours in and for the first time (outside the tutorial) I'm actually generating power. I think my primary loop is practically all steam, there is smoke coming out of the turbine, and radiation leaking out of the core, but I'm actually generating electricity!

>>532017024
and now it's fucked, I'm not producing enough now because I fiddled with the pressuriser, rip

>>532018816
Scramming is for the weak

>>532029583
I completely forgot the mig-19 had an afterburner

>>531783276
I'm excited. An unfortunately underexplored period.

Is the gigantic pack of FSX mods still available? We used to have a mega that had pretty much everything you needed to make it look good and add shittons of planes. I like FS2020 but it just lacks some of the hand-crafted addons and nuance FSX had.

>>532037213
I used to use GEX+RTX for terrain but abandoned them in favour of the OrbX country packs as they were miles ahead. I'd use REX for weather textures and ActiveSky for live weather, or the other way round I can't remember. Honestly the amount of addons made for MSFS in the past 5 years is mental so there's not that much missing. The Dash 8 is the main one along with some A2A planes.

>>532037718
Did you pay for the OrbX country packs?

>>532039902
I did at the time, I spent far too much on FSX addons

>>532039902
I should explain: I'm only asking because I was curious if the paid version outpaced the freeware variant.

>>532039959
Ah I see, thanks.
$90AUD doesn't seem so bad compared to one DCS module so I can easily pay it if I go back to FSX full time.

>>532040130
I really wouldn't go back mate, it ran and looked like shit, outside a few planes I miss it isn't worth it.

>>532040653
fair, I miss some of the modeling and hand-crafted airports. Are there any better modeling mods for MSFS? The satellite imagery and airport crafting leaves much to be desired in some places that had some peak terrain mods in FSX. Same with the amount of planes available.

>>532041154
Have a look on flightsim.to for freeware, other sites for payware airports.

>F-35 but with two seats
Cheeky Kims

>>532043817
Long Amy
>Rong Amy

fuck it

Too low.

>>532068903
what goes on there

>>532076147
They listen for the ayys.

More ?????? installations.

>>531959438
>massive download
Its pretty tame by modern standards.
>no helicopters.....
>crtl+c ctrl+v F16/F15 avionics
Its literally an F-16 sim so okay.
>shit damage models
?
>dead multiplayer
Its a primarily SP game.
>clunky everything
In cockpit it flows fairly well. They revamped much of the UI, but tbf I have been playing since the mid 2000s so I am well used to the original UI.
>still kind of ugly
Its a sim first.
The dynamic campaign is the main draw.
You get an RTS + FPSim in one.

SHIT

It's over.

pull up

>>532054184
What is that? Derail valley with mods?

>>532105132
Are you getting the Rafale for MSFS when it comes out?

any1 else worried that the sim and flight obsession is just some kind of cope

even though i did this as a kid it just feels like cope right now because ive wanted to move to canada since forever and i just can't do it

so i cope by flying a cessna 172 around ottawa whenever i feel like flying

ive also threatened CYOW over phone calls and keep calling ottawa flying club as a fuck you

>>532106894
heres a screenshot

>>532106894
Exploring the world virtually isn't cope, it's fun. I suppose it's cope in that a lot of us can't afford a PPL, or to own a plane.

>>532107319
yes it is cope because i literally am not fucking allowed to move to canada despite having always wanted to

>>532107359
Are you a jeet?

>>532107408
ah the mask comes off after that fake nice response and you reveal yourself as a fucking 4chan racist engagement bait bot with no soul

>>532107575
I have just the plane for you
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_Ajeet

>>532107575
kek retard

>>532107927
>Ajeet
>scat-sat
Are they doing it on purpose?

>>532108998
They must be kek

>>532106851
I don't know, the CJsim one didn't really blow me away.

>>532109091
AzurPoly are good devs and have been officially licensed by Rafale so I think it could be study level.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KvjCicWndQ
I'm not sure I'll get it, it seems like the sort of thing that could come to DCS, but I suppose the development for that for take a decade knowing dcs.

>>532107359
>i literally am not fucking allowed to move to canada despite having always wanted to
no offence and I don't want to turn this into /pol/ but if you're indian then why should anyone let you in? Everywhere you go you behave badly, I keep seeing videos on social media of places that were clean like Norway starting to have a few indians and they immediately start littering everywhere even on pristine mountain trails and act like it's the most normal thing.
We've seen with the UK and Canada what happens with mass immigration so you can't really fault countries and people for not wanting you.

>>532109183
Yeah, in MSFS usually what gets me going is the actual flying and sightseeing. It's the reason I like trainers so much there since they are a nice in-between.
Meanwhile the Rafale feels kinda wasted in such a sim, dropping bombs, doing BFM and BVR engagement etc seems more natural but you can't do it in MSFS. Granted that we'll have to see with the HB F-2000 in DCS just how much they will actually model, because if it ends up like another F-16 at launch then I'll just keep flying in MSFS.

>>532109893
I know what you mean and I agree, that's what I avoid getting military planes for civsims if I know they could be used in DCS. What has changed now though is the weaponry in MSFS where devs now make functioning missiles and bombs that explode on impact, obviously still doesn't damage buildings but it's something. I'll still might get the A-1 for MSFS though even though I know there's one in development for DCS. The C-130 for DCS is the other way round though, that seems stupid.

>>532110075
>What has changed now though is the weaponry in MSFS where devs now make functioning missiles and bombs that explode on impact
Oh yeah I forgot about that. If I could even just have a somewhat realistic bomb release physics in MSFS like in Xplane12 I doubt I would ever go back to DCS beside the usual 3-4 months fixation I have every winter.
>The C-130 for DCS is the other way round though, that seems stupid.
I tought the same too. Unless you had a dynamic campaign closer to what I heard the BMS ones are like, I don't see how it would make sense beside for people who really like the plane in general. You could use it to do very short resupply runs in multiplayer and that's it.
If they were ever to do a C-27J module for DCS I would probably buy it but just to replicate the display shows the RSV does.

>>532110582
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US2Q_qxtUEI&t=699s
They're honestly pretty good, this is by the same dev as the Rafale. They explode, leave a 'crater' (no idea what that looks like on buildings) and smoke.

>>532110772
>They explode, leave a 'crater'
That's good enough for me. I hope IFE will add this to the M-346.

>Reaction Engines went bust last year
Fucking hell I didn't know that, that's awful, I was looking forward to the SABRE engine and Skylon. I suppose re-usable rockets affected it, but it looks like it's been picked up by ESA now.

>>532106894
>>532107319
absolute cope, most here are too mentally ill for a PPL

>>532106894
A little bit.
I wanted to fly since I was 6 but was considered too depressed to even touch a yoke until I moved out. Flight Sims became my cope for that when I was very, very young and I've just kept it up even after I got a PPL.

It's been fun seeing all the little differences between reality vs the things I grew up with. Honestly these simulators are more accurate than I thought they were when I first started.

>>532122902
no u

>>532107319
>a lot of us can't afford a PPL, or to own a plane.
My grandfather noticed this too, Aviation has been priced out of the private pilot market. If you're not directly sponsored by a multi-million dollar multinational business, there's no hope of you ever being able to recreationally own any of the planes you see in flight simulators.

Now old shitboxes from the 50s and 60s? Those are the things the little people can own, and even then it costs an exorbitant amount.

>>532123521
I guess all that to say: Flight Simulators are a poorfag cope for not being born rich or not making it with Crypto to where they can throw $500,000 down the drain for a new Skylane and not think twice about it.

>>532123643
NTA but I'd disagree nonetheless, I think the majority of planefags are pretty okay with not being able to fly irl, and instead just focus on making their sim cockpit as realistic as possible. The majority of posts here are about military aviation anyways, sometimes even WW-era, not Cessnas or whatever.

>>532123503
being mentally ill doesn't completely forbid you from flying irl, mind you, it just makes it more time-consuming and expensive than most poorfags here could handle

>>532123643
You can just rent planes, but it's expensive

>>532121724
>goal
>with that budget
lmao

>>532124378
>being mentally ill doesn't completely forbid you from flying irl
you literally cannot fly if you even are suspected of having had depression in the past. Hell, there are pilots who have been grounded for having posted that they were sad at their own immediate family passing away.

>>532123521
Being priced out of learning to fly isn't that big of a deal when you've already been priced out of buying a home, priced out of starting a family, and even priced out of having a fun car already.

>>532125089
It'll be made from balsa wood and papier maché

>>532125387
And people wonder why men "refuse to go to therapy", it's basically a death sentence for your gun rights and apparently your flying career too.

>>532125435
>priced out of having a fun car
Plenty of povvos here get BMWs on finance when they live in council houses

>>532125576
Sorry, meant "women wonder why", not people.

>>532125591
They aren't buying track days, and the wearing through the tires required for that.

>>532125576
>gun rights
Damn, this actually applies to guns in your country too? That sucks donkey balls if true. In Switzerland you just ask your psychiatrist for a signed permission, and you can acquire anything you want.

>>532125387
>https://www.faa.gov/ame_guide/app_process/exam_tech/item47/amd/table
you can take any of pic related meds but it's individually decided case-by-case by the FAA
>>532125576
see above, for most it's just a matter of throwing enough time and money at the AME to assure them of your "safety", you can get a DUI under 0.15 BAC no problem tho

>>532125576
>>532126665
Here in Italy regarding buying funs, it's not so clear cut. You can't get your license if you're currently taking medications for depressions or have an actual mental illness but if you were depressed and now aren't in treatment anymore then you can get it. One of the guys I go to the range with often goes to therapy for mild depression and he still has his guns.

>>532127262
>pic related

>>532127453
Honestly I think the antidepressant medications put you at more of a risk of going postal than just being depressed.

>>532127271
Looking into it and in the UK as long as it's managed and not serious you should be alright.

>>532127271
did you see the 346 that just departed RIAT? The pilot is definetly a show off lol. Immediately pulled a vertical and then turned right.

>>532128259
'cept you can't buy anything other than .22 semi autos.... I weep for bongbros

>>532128404
Not actually true, our laws are confusing but you can own a 50 calibre rifle if you wanted to, but you'd need to be a member of a gun club. It gets weird with handguns, which were banned in the 90s (apart from in norn iron) after a school shooting, if you stick a bit of metal on the handle of say a revolver, it's now legal as it's a longer weapon. You can own guns here you just need a good reason.

I didn't know there was a Magister at RIAT, I missed it.

>>532128302
Yep, lol. Now it's the departure of thr C-27J. They were amazing this year.

>>532125387
>you literally cannot fly if you even are suspected of having had depression in the past
skill issue and important life lesson
be careful what you share and with who
in most cases it is advisable to thug it out

>>532139448
you're so edgy

>>532147164
What does this mean in English though?

>>532147497
kiss any hope of ever buying these modules again goodbye

>>532151810
I'm just missing the Mig-19 (I'm not that crazy for slavshit though). I'm all set as long as ED fulfills their promise to keep the Razbam modules working.

>>532157768
>I'm all set as long as ED fulfills their promise to keep the Razbam modules workin
I doubt they can, they don't have the source code.

>>532151810
Oh I'm sure they'll still sell them.
I doubt ED is going to stop selling Razbam's modules and stop telling customers that Razbam is getting a cut because they are the eternal russian

Reminder that ANY American can fly ultralights. No license or training required, and you don't have to be sane. If you've got five grand, this could be you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9h6uQZ9r2I

>>532164552
Have you seen this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1Z8YT6w7Rc

>>532164552
I think light sport aircraft just require a driver's license, too.
And God's plane, the Piper Cub, is considered an LSA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK8LDAxBA4k

>>532164552
~$2-4k a year to operate paramotors if you believe completewalkaround, with a $10-20k upfront cost.
soaring clubs are more accessible for the average poorfag

>>532164552
>no training
Damn, that sounds nice, here you need to be 16 and do training and a 100€ test.

>>532162767
>I doubt ED is going to stop selling Razbam's modules
They already did

Will Razbam just go bust now then, or will they work on planes another sim?

>>532171013
They announced they are working with micropose for falcon 5

>>532164889
Yeah, that or something like it. I was watching tons of paramotor videos five-ish years ago. Seems like a really fun hobby unless you get unlucky or stupid.

>>532167956
A quick check on eBay turned up a wing for $600 and a motor for $2500. NOLF.

These nook option dev streams are comfy

CUTE

So 2 of these are going in the new utility helo. There is a short range SAM, 40mm GMG that can do indirect fire, and nuclear suicide bomber

New sling loading system. Dont actually try and pick up a 20 ton HLT, the floor ripped off. Tarantula is supposed to be able to parachute deploy APCs but he hasnt demonstrated that yet

>>532169819
So it's truly, utterly, and completely ogre right?

>>532171013
Well that's the thing: Razbam originally came from making FSX mods. They had one of the most popular F-18 and EF-2000 mods in FSX back in the day. Like before they were modules in DCS.

I imagine they could just take the work they've done, polish it up a bit, and put it on FS2020/2024. But that takes time, that takes money, that takes manpower they may not have anymore. It's definitely set them back, and if they ever re-release any of their stuff for FS2020 I'm 100% on board with buying it again

>>532172494
I didn't hear about this, is that true?
Falcon 5 shaping up to be GOTY

>>532178137
buying a used wing of unknown age and wear is certainly a decision for the less sane

There it is

>>532183830
>https://vintageaviationnews.com/warbirds-news/fg-1d-corsair-kd345-departs-the-uk-for-a-new-chapter-in-the-united-states.html
it's ogre

>>532184251
Finally DCS can go back to being a helicopter sim like it's supposed to be.

I can fix her

>>532203179
I couldn't fix her.

>>532203179
I couldn't fix her

https://youtu.be/-NAp1l3M4Y8?si=EzyX1Ul8yVQVsEFf

New pacific theatre sim

>>532029583
That's a 17

>>532203583
dick dastardly thwarted again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdnbL6k0lO0
I'd forgotten this existed

>>532242682
One highlight
>interior damage and grime systems apply to carpets
>the robot cleaners will actually clean the carpets and prioritise the dirty areas

>>532211494
>pre alpha
Can't wait for the release in 10 years

>>532184124
Moving to MSFS could be profitable, it has a much larger audience than DCS, but they'd obviously have to make everything from the ground up.

>>532243076
>they'd obviously have to make everything from the ground up.
I'm not so sure of that. I think one of the reasons IFE and HB released some of their DCS modules on MSFS is because they could reuse the assets they already had developed from DCS.

>>532243221
Good point, models can be re-used but I would imagine they'd need to learn a new SDK, so not from the ground up but it'd take time.

>>532212105
can't buy either one in DCS

>>532106714
Yeah, just some modded skins

>>532242934
>Can't wait for the release in 10 years
me but for >>532242682

>>532260857
>Can't wait for the release in 10 years
me but for picrel

>>532264012
before the introduction of the cold war germany map I tought the G-91 would be DOA, now I think it has some chances to at least break even. Still, I don't feel that comfortable buying DCS stuff untill the razbam thing is completely resolved.

>>532264012
From what I headd a lot of DCS developers are purposefully delaying their products in order to see how the Razbam ED thing will be resolved. If they decide a clause that says you have to give them your source code I bet half of the devs are going to run away

>>532270724
They may run away anyway if ED just decides to keep the money and tell Razbam to fuck themselves.
I know Heatblur already said that it took an extremely long time for them to get their Tomcat money and were basically operating on nothing for upwards of a year

>FlightFX’s Cessna Citation X released
It looks nice

>>532264012
C-130 is slated for 2025 per ASC themselves.

>assume MSFS 2024 backs up settings to cloud
>reinstalled Windows
>it's reset everything
Fucks SAKE

>>532281597
Okay strangely it resets your graphics settings but keeps everything else perhaps so maybe my controls are safe.

V A P O R

TERRAIN

Final bump before I go to bed

>trying NO workshop missions
>some guy made a whole ass campaign
>first mission starts asking for CAS
>since little to no AD and no enemy aircrafts I pick gunship Tarantula
>delete half a map on my own
>I still have more than half ammo still available
That shit is OP as fuck.

The balance overall seems odd to me:
>the Cricket doesn't seem to have any substantial advantage over the Chicane
>IR missiles are a waste of hardpoints unless you can get to gun range because they get 100% spoofed by flares
>Compass
>why would I ever load anything but AGM and the 76 on the Tarantula?
>Revoker when Vortex and Ifrit exist

>>532306294
>the Cricket doesn't seem to have any substantial advantage over the Chicane
It's supposed to have better optical sensors and it's a little faster, but there's a reason it's the cheapest lowest tier aircraft.
>IR missiles are a waste of hardpoints unless you can get to gun range because they get 100% spoofed by flares
They can be used to shoot down incoming missiles. Or fire them off and then fire off your scythes since currently you can't dump flares and jam at the same time.
>why would I ever load anything but AGM and the 76 on the Tarantula?
Useful to capture airbases, replace stratolance radar, or sometimes dropping munitions containers.

>>532306294
AI generally doesn't respond in time if you launch an IR missiles from within 4km especially if you have airspeed already, and a shot looking down the hot tailpipe of a jet can semi-reliably kill.
>Compass
Designated shardslayer
>Revoker
If you want to fill external hardpoints, might as well take the Revoker over the Vortex, since both will have big RCS anyway. The nose pointing authority with the 3D vectoring nozzle is insane.

>>532300184
>>532293518
It would've look so bad if it used a top mounted radar dish instead of a beer gut

Bought an Islander in FSEconomy and now get to fly it all the way from Montana to South Carolina

I vaguely remember installing dcs world years ago and to intentionally avoid dcs steam world for some reason. I actually remember it being a good reason and not just drm autism. It was like peripheral interface or updates or something.

Can someone refresh me on why? I see the franchise is on sale on steam and my sticks/pedals have been collecting dust for months.

All I want is a jet, a helicopter, and a terrain

>>532334083
Fucking based. I have a bit over 3,000 hours in Islanders IRL. And the hearing damage to prove it, kek

>>532349989
>I actually remember it being a good reason and not just drm autism
I don't think there is any actual good reason now. Maybe in the past?
The DRM is there even on the standalone version.
What Steam doesn't have is the free trial every 6 months but that's that.

>>532356064
well I just bought the ah-64, the f-15, and combined arms.

>inb4 pic related

>>532357380
>CA
lmao why?

>>532358829
pastebin said it wasn't a regrettable buy.

>have to move
>haven't been able to sim for days
>can't sim today
>probably won't be able to sim for several days afterwards

look at this fucking emblem. it always cracks me up for some reasons.

>>532362093
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXInk1PCsc8&pp=ygURb2xkIGdob3N0IGNhcnRvb24%3D

I want a good sky-truck turboprop plane for MSFS. Like another Grand Caravan. Suggestions?

>>532396572
>>532390453

>>532334083
Is that the Blackbox Simulations Islander? I've heard they're good but they use FSX-tier textures.

>>532390453
Single or twin engine?

>>532361914
>Fo(u)r pussy!

>>532359041
Are you playing mostly single player or multiplayer?

>>532403750
i love pussy

>>532357380
Not exactly a blunder but they're both complex aircraft with a lot of systems to learn.
you have pedals so you're already ahead of most aspiring rotorheads, use the OH-6 mod as a trainer if you're crashing a lot.
combined arms is a fucking meme honestly, only use is scenic drives, LARPing, and trolling MP servers that forget to block the JTAC slot

>MSFS doesn't have dam-ACK
https://msfsaddons.com/2025/07/22/tfx-brings-dramatic-fire-and-damage-effects-to-microsoft-flight-simulator/

>AN/AAQ-33 Sniper ATP for DCS: F-16 Viper is out!
AN/AAQ-33 Sniper ATP for DCS: F-16 Viper is out!
>AN/AAQ-33 Sniper ATP for DCS: F-16 Viper is out!
AN/AAQ-33 Sniper ATP for DCS: F-16 Viper is out!
>AN/AAQ-33 Sniper ATP for DCS: F-16 Viper is out!
AN/AAQ-33 Sniper ATP for DCS: F-16 Viper is out!

>>532410208
what does it do?

>>532410743
https://youtu.be/k_2h4JtFZhA
https://youtu.be/6kJSN_uv810

multi track, expanded modes and some more

>>532242682
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_EpdpbVKnQ
The dev is streaming him building a starship

>>532397327
I like both, single is a fun time.

>>532423425
*doesn't stall behind you*

>>532423660
What is the best AN-2 mod for MSFS?

>>532428814
Ooh
I like that

>>532390453
Maybe the SkyCourier will finally be good

>>532423660
>Fun fact you can mix the antifreeze coolant with two parts water to make a perfectly drinkable vodka substitute
chat is this real?

>>532433894
good enough to smuggle into north korea

>>532437160
>every plane except the SkyCourier has the developer name in the parentheses
chat what does it mean?

>>532353547
Hell yeah dawg, if thats you, its me. I'm CFI-ing these days, I just like the Islander and still come home after sweating my dick off in a 172 all day to play MSFS

Since you're around, whats the proper leaning procedure? In MSFS I lean it until peak fuel flow, because I noticed fuel flow increases then decreases after leaning past a certain point, which I'm not sure actually makes sense. I'm too gay and lazy to read the POH

>>532396802
yessir, I like it, the textures never bothered me. It's fun and flies gud

>>532427565
The one that translates the cockpit to english

>>532447061
Based and forward slip pilled

I uninstalled DCS and i have no intention to reinstall it until either the F-100D or the Skyraider is out

>>532451231
weaaaaaaaak

>>532459004
You'd rather uninstall than wait two weeks?

>>532461528
>You'd rather uninstall than wait two weeks?
I'm mad that i'm never getting my mig-23
TWO NEVER

>some of DCS best modules going to shit because of faggotry between ED and Razscam
>now visa/mastercard porncalypse happening in real time
>possibly more to come
No i won't go out and touch grass. I already did that and i didn't like it. Leave my nerd stuff alone.

>>532409240
>complex aircraft
Well it took 4 hours, but I have the startup sequence down and can hover, transition, and cruise a nav plan in the ah-64d. I'm using the bare minimum bindings though. And learning what helo trim is. Still not 100% on it. Since I am not 100% on what causes the innate spin. Could be a combination of too much torque too quickly, my shitty rudder pedals(I even unbound them and moved rudder to my combat stick's twist), and whatever simulated trim is actually doing. I accidentally'd into how to arm my rockets and did a casual fratricide while I lost control of my attitude. All in all, successful day getting all my peripherals reconnected and calibrated. With the exception of my rudder pedals.

I only have a shortlist of goals. Once I do another day or two of navigation with some fun little evasive manuevers, I'll do some weapons employment and finish up with a deck landing.

>>532469776
It takes a little while to get the feel of how attitude hold releases its authority, also keep and eye on the little box around your torque readout in the upper left of the IHADDS, it's the easiest way to tell when you are pushing the aircraft too hard.
The Apache is a heavy bird with a lot of power so that it can lift a shitload of weapons and fuel, so its flight envelope just gets kinda bent out of shape sometimes.
Once you learn it though, it is an incredibly nimble and forgiving helicopter, just have to not fight it.

>>532459004
Based
See you in like.... 5 years

>>532463470
The pornpocalypse should scare every person in this thread because what is exactly stopping Visa/Mastercard from doing the same shit with ED? It's almost unofficially officially a Russian company who hides out in Cyprus and South Africa to keep from being sanctioned. One feminist cunt screaming at Visa and Mastercard that they are actually a Russian company and every module goes to Putler's pockets #FreeUkraine would mean we lose access to literally all of it, probably wouldn't even get to play anymore since it's all server based and freeloaders don't pay server fees.

Thousands of dollars down the drain and it's only kept safe because feminazi cunts are too stupid to read between the lines and see the connection

>>532437160
>C152 inibuilds
u wot, I thought that was an Asobo plane, good to see it's getting an update though because it's been bugged since launch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyN--mKm5L4
Video highlighting MSFS 2024 news, SU3 pushed back to August as expected.

>>532480313
>pornpocalypse
Qrd? I thought this happened years ago and that’s why all the tube sites went to shit

>>532459004
same but the eurofighter.

>>532469776
pedals are the secret sauce for teaching your bones how helicopters work

>Euro Truck Simulator 2 is getting coaches
>American Truck Simulator is getting cars

>>532447061
Oh hi mate - that's awesome, how are you finding instructing?

I can't remember what the POH used to say, the company I flew for was relatively flash in terms of aircraft fitout compared to most other operators; we had air con, weather radar, and an expensive Shadin fuel flow meters, so our company procedures was to set power, then lean it to 12 gallons an hour fuel flow. I'm pretty sure though it'd be something like 50°C rich of peak EGT.

>>532447061
>come home after sweating my dick off in a 172 all day to play MSFS
Why? Is it because you can fly in a game what you can't irl?

>>532489017
We're in the midst of a new one. Itch just took down close to 21,000 NSFW games (not specifically porn, just NSFW) last night, this started last week when Steam took down about 100 porn games which is peanuts by comparison.

It's Mastercard and Visa again but this time they're being puppeted by an Australian feminist group. But this is a huge security vulnerability in our financial supply chain because literally anyone can do it. The Australian feminist group bragged about getting these 21K games taken down with 1000 emails to Visa/Mastercards CEOs. That's nothing. You or I could do that with AI in an afternoon and it would look convincing. Basically if you want to cancel any business in the US, just send emails to these two CEOs and it literally locks them out of using money in general

>>532503240
For me I started playing civvie flight sims again when I got my tailwheel certification. Because I liked it so much I just wanted to have more of that.

>>532503567
I hope Japan fights back, as the jew needs to fear the samurai.

>>532503778
It's nice that the games are good enough for pilots to play for fun, I doubt train and truck drivers play sims.

>>532503567
also outside the US, Japan is having a conversation in the Diet right now about regulating Visa/Mastercard because they were targeting businesses in Japan with the same shit.

Which goes back to ED and even 1C: They are very obviously Russian devs hiding in a trench coat. We shouldn't even be technically able to buy their games if they were being affected by the sanctions. One shartytroon with a load of time on xir's hands could cripple these companies.

>>532503886
We need to rediscover the technology to make trainers with sovl

>>532503567
sloppa keeps on winning

>>532501082
>reflections of ductwork and buildings on the windows
>vehicles racing through the desert
boy I sure hope somebody got fired for that blunder

>>532504043
MSFS is fantastic, and I still like FSX even though it's showing its age.
The #1 thing about civ flight sims I like over flying IRL is the pilotage. I can't jump in a 1930s DC-3 and use low-frequency radio range to navigate across a foggy mountain range at night. But I can do that in MSFS. I also have no reason or lack the equipment to perform a cross-country flight into Alaska using exclusively radio navaids and dead reckoning on this e6b that may as well be a paperweight in my flight bag. I can do that in MSFS

Flying is just a fun hobby in general if you really like the technical side of it. Only real downside is the price.

>>532504614
People who have never flown a plane argue like fuck over how realistic the various flight sims are. What's your view on it, are they realistic enough?

>>532504187
SOVL design choices do not mix well with transonic or supersonic designs or really high alpha flight envelopes sadly.
A perfect example is is the 326/339 with its straight edge wing and tip tank, pure soul that makes diamond formations look like pure sex.
I am still mad the successor of the MB-339 is the M-345. I just don't like high wing designs.

>>532504824
Just slap a bigger engine on it, aerodynamics be damned

>>532504064
i'm honestly wondering what would happen in the combat flight sim market if ED were to go under (which honestly seems more likely every day). would someone step up to fill the big hole left by DCS's absence in a reasonable timeframe (i.e. like 2 years at most) or would there just be no more "decent middleground" game in the market anymore, leaving everyone splintered across several relatively niche/dead titles like BMS, IL-2:GB, and, Allah forgive me for uttering its name, WT Air Sim?

I always thought that the MB-339 could do with a F135.

>>532505758
>>532505315
meant to quote you

>>532505898
Why is there a lack of Soviet jet trainers? Did they just have twin seat fighter conversions for that role?

>>532504810
idk honestly you lose a lot not being there and feeling it, but at the same time much of the fun parts of aviation aren't the actual flying parts, it's the procedure parts. Most of flying is the way it is because if you follow the basic guidelines: It doesn't really matter what you are flying or how true-to-life it handles because the procedure to fly the plane has been made to be as generic and simple as possible to where it applies to as many planes of its type as possible.

Case in point: I was flying the Cub that was on sale on MSFS' marketplace because I'm a cuck that buys modules. I think it's far too light and balanced nose-up compared to the real J-3 I've flown, but the handling differences can be explained as just differences in age, weight, and balance. The visual cues in the pattern and during cruise are absolutely spot-on, and the RPM setpoints are close enough to where I would have to squint to really see a difference. That's what really matters more than differences in stick and handling IMO unless you get into real aerobatic stuff which I'm not an aerobatic pilot so idk. It still stalls and spins like a cub should and that's my only real experience to compare it to.

>>532506176
>Did they just have twin seat fighter conversions for that role?
yeah, I think there was the yak-17 but I can't remember others pre 1991.

>>532505661
>would someone step up to fill the big hole left by DCS's absence in a reasonable timeframe (i.e. like 2 years at most)
Falcon 5 two weeks.

Actually idk, it's a good question. What happens when the market leader croaks and it becomes clear the market leader wasn't exactly making bank to begin with? BMS is great, I love BMS, it's still based on a now-25 year old engine that keeps being soldered and bolted onto in order to add new features.

It would be nice if we could get a new Falcon 4 but the first Falcon 4 was so ambitious it killed the company that made it. Someone said there's a Falcon 5 in the works but that could just be trolling.

>>532506176
>Why is there a lack of Soviet jet trainers?
we only need one, comrade.

>>532506982
Don't you mean the Soviet M-346 built by Russian Communists?

>>532507079
It's cute.

>>532506176
>>532506982
eastern bloc countries also used the metric shitload of MiG-15's they had lying around as trainers, they have a better TWR than the Albatros, cheap to convert, and have good flight characteristics, most fagots were built as two-seaters

>>532506982
I find it hard to classify it as soviet when it was built almost completely by czechs.
>>532507431
the cutest.

>>532506982
Hell yeah.

>>532511998
>almost completely by czechs.
czechs were in the soviet union

I heard you guys like Czech aircraft.

>>532521301
meme plane

>>532521540
SAY THAT TO MY FACE, FUCKER.

>computer isn't going mental in the MSFS 2024 main menu and map now
Maybe they fixed it in the latest beta update. I'm suspicious.

>>532497771
I don't know if it's right or supposed to be inverted but I had to keep telling myself push right, look right. push left look left. On a stick, I twist in the direction I want the rudder to point me.

Purely mental distinction.

>>532478710
I used attitude hold at first but it felt like a shortcut so while it's still bound, I'm trying to consistently return to stable platform on my own.

>>532517705
no, they were in the warsaw pact

Just got jumpscared by photogrammetry, I wondered what the fuck that hideous blob thing was

A Chinook flew over my house today :)

Now here's a REAL plane
>pusher
>1hp engine
>cockpit is a tent that you zip/unzip to get in and out of
>if you brake too hard it tips over and you have to restart the flight
>goes 5 knots with a tailwind

>>532527369
>1hp engine
>MFW that's the power output of my PSU

>>532527689
My computer is more power hungry than that, but unironically.

I'm impressed by the graphics every time I go for a flight, look at this, mental.

Roadcraft on sale until the 4th
Update scheduled for september adds bridge launcher and a poison swamp

>>532528294
Photogrammetry is great, I just wish they would implement a gradual blending.

>>532529015
There are lots of negative reviews for it recently
>>532529325
I agree, they should fix that, you can get big square areas that stick out like a sore thumb.

>>532529563
I heard that in 2024 it should be less pronounced due to them fixing the green tinted bing imagery.

>>532529946
This is 24, I've found a good example. The village to the left is autogen, the town to the right is with photogrammetry. You can see the lines, but they're done quite well so you wouldn't really notice them higher up. However I have seen it in desert areas where it's very obvious, so perhaps it's improved slightly since 2020 but still needs work.

>>532530550
Higher up

>>532530781
>>532530550
Yeah that's amazing, I hope north Italy is like that too. If I hadn't just stocked up on x54R I would've bought it right now. but buying stuff from microsoft without a sale feels wrong

>>532530932
Let me finish this quick flight and I'll have a look, anywhere specific? Milan?

>>532531065
Try around Montichiari airport south west of Garda Lake (big one). There is no photogrammetry there so I'm curious how it looks. It's one of the few area I've been flying IRL and in 2020 it's no good.
Take your time and thanks.

>>532530932
>x54R
What's that?

>>532531727
Munitions

>>531731121 (OP)
what vidya will let me simulate the dream of flying concorde?

>>532531883
FSX had a really good one back in the day

>>532531514
Looks alright in 24, which parts look bad in 20? The mountain LOD looks a bit low in the distance but that's another issue.
>>532531883
All civ sims have Concorde addons

>>532523463
>push right, look right. push left look left.
Yeah that takes a little getting used to coming from a twist stick.
As far as attitude hold in the Apache, it is a bit of a crutch, but it's a crutch that makes the aircraft fly how it was designed. I take it off to maneuver, but when I start going in a straight line at a constant speed I throw it on (it will also auto trim your tail out, which is nice), and I turn it on when I get into a hover, then turn altitude hold on, because it really can anchor you in place nicely. Sometimes a fully assisted hover just kinda breaks though, I know ED has reworked that part a few times to be more forgiving, so I'm not sure if the current behavior is still bugged or actually accurate to the IRL behavior.

>>532531514
>>532535772
Forgot screenshot

>>532536005
High altitude

>>532536005
>>532536249
Damn, that is nice thanks a lot. This is 2020, my biggest complaint is the green color, otherwise I would even be okay with autogen.

>>532536885
To be fair I was using live weather and time, this is at noon with clear skies. Don't forget 2024 has seasons in which have an affect on greenness.

>>532538051
Still looks a lot better imho

>>532539204
Do you care about career mode? if yes wait until next year, if not wait a few more weeks for SU3 to come out and maybe get 2024 then.

>>532539354
>Do you care about career mode?
Probably, what I sounds appealing are the firefighting missions.

>>532540341
>what I sounds appealing
Jesus I should probably go to sleep

>>532540341
I haven't tried them so can't comment but they're probably buggy.

>>532541236
it wouldn't surprise me

>>532529015
>poison swamp
>think anon must be trolling
>mfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWLKvWsgn24
Fucking kek

>>532529563
>negative reviews
Some maps started showing massive framerate dips, either caused by a vehicle loading and clipping through the terrain or vram full. The rest are the usual "wtf this isn't spintires" and "there's too much dlc (2)"

we're back

>>532527369
A friend of mine brought me along for a ride in that thing, or something identical (tandem seats, high wing, pusher prop, tail made out of a single tube, tarpaulin skin, no bush wheels tho); being in the air in that thing was absolutely hilarious. I wish I had the disposable income to start flying. Fun fact: that same friend then crashed in that thing after the engine quit for no reason; he almost lost a foot and had a long recovery, but he survived; his instructor just cracked his sternum, but was otherwise unharmed. Around Rotax, never relax.

>>532552702
I shouldn't laugh but I did, funny that a little plane like that would be a deathtrap. They're probably quite cheap aren't they?

>>532553024
Yeah. I don't think you can go cheaper and still have two seats. Or a flying aircraft. I believe aircrafts like those are quite dangerous, especially because they're required to fly very low: when something goes wrong you have very little energy to use to get down safely, but this depends heavily on each nation's air rules. IIRC my friend managed to get down and do an emergency landing in a field, but he couldn't align with the plowing direction so when he touched down the nose wheel got trapped and basically crashed the nose into the ground. He probably would have gotten away with it if he had big bush wheels.

Is the logitech 3d pro still the "best" entry level flight stick if I can't drop $150 on a hotas? I'm not doing any combat flight sims at the moment so I don't really need that many buttons

>>532554812
for the price, yes. The next best is the VKB NXT Evo Space Combat Premium.

>>532523463
get into a stable hover near a tall object like the tower, then practice going around it in circles with your nose on it at a steady altitude.
few days of drilling that and you won't have to think about it any more

I need a modern sim game about 1946+ wunderwaffe but mainly based on super-props.

>>532560345
Ok. I'm out of ideas. Why am I in a spin if I'm not giving it like 30% left rudder at all times?

I'm almost positive I'm fucking something up. If that's intended, how do I find my center and set it during flight?

>>532530932
>If I hadn't just stocked up on x54R
Based. Did you actually find a spam can or just got a good deal?

>>532572337
I have not flown the apache, but spinning is the natural state of helicopters. The amount of rudder you need to not spin constantly varies. In general though, you should be more stable and need less in forward movement than in a hover. Figure out where the pedals need to be to not spin and trim them.

>>532576334
So at some point, I hit the magical button that allowed me to maintain attitude and altitude so it'd stop spinning.

Have the overlays to maybe see what's going on. Understand the green markers to be sas attempting to keep me on target. The cyan to be the bounds. And the red crosses to be my trim. I could be completely wrong. Dunno.

And the K on the right, I think is my rudder angle. Which appears to be maintaining a 5 or less degree left angle.

>>532542673
The Land Rover shown has extra armor and better wheels, don't know which is more unlikely truck damage or per vehicle customization

>>532572337
>Why am I in a spin if I'm not giving it like 30% left rudder at all times?
The big spinning rotor blade above your head turns counterclockwise, which forces the body of the helicopter to turn in the other direction to counter its momentum.
"Rudder" pedals in helicopters are actually antitorque pedals, because they counter the torque of the rotor.
>>532577807
The goal is to practice enough to always be able to find that button, by feel, without using any assists.

>>532581286
>find that button by feel
I wasn't being metaphorical. One of my trim buttons, when I was trying to figure out which did what, stabilized the platform.

AL = altitude?(refused to engage for whatever reason)
AT = attitude
Then there's two more and the trim reset. I don't know what the other two, up/down, even do.

This fucking final contract on Deluge in Roadcraft is bullshit. I'm gonna have to pave a whole fucking road just because they refuse to give the AI decent trucks. These cement trucks don't have diff lock or AWD and got no power whatsoever, so even a slight incline is enough to stall them. I don't mind having to make a road, but I absolutely mind when I'm being forced to make an interstate purely for two vehicles that I'll only ever use once.

Just give these AI trucks AWD/Diff lock.

>>532584251
>I wasn't being metaphorical
when you're ready you won't need the button, you'll know it when you get there and it will feel like pic related

>>532584808
Make the roads too hastly and with too much sand and they become tall and narrow causing the trucks to bite the curb and lose traction or tip over. Post a code if you still need help with it like 9 hours from now

Who said Falcon 4 had realistic flight physics? Fuck you

>>532590449
I'm rerouting these faggots, gonna build a bridge across the lake and a wide road up that slope. I HIGHLY fucking doubt they'll make it on their own, so I'm gonna push them up the hill.
This shit is absurd. If this don't work, I'm uninstalling the game until they fix it. I like the game, but too many issues through out and now this is starting to wear me down.
Thank you for the offer though, friendo

>>532591630
BMS is pretty good. You're not playing vanilla Falcon 4 are you?

>>532585875
Actually, turns out I just needed to adjust the curve on my pedals from 8 to 30 per schoolio64d. As soon as I did that to my cyclic and rudder. WORLD of difference. Can quite easily maintain now. trim just makes cruising less cumbersome now.

>>532573671
good deal as they don't sell whole spam cans here, which compared to american prices it's usually still a rip off.
I bought a few of the chink surplus at 0,35cpr and a lot of the SB 174gr match.

>>532600089
>trim just makes cruising less cumbersome now.
Wait until you take the springs out of your stock and pedals, then all that trimmer technique you learned will be totally useless!

>>532609876
>removing springs
While I can, I won't. I use my sticks for other stuff too and that'd be super inconvenient.

>>532608905
Ah nice, yeah I'm not American either, x54R is expensive down here and a bit of a pain in the arse to find now that all the surplus has dried up. I only shoot it out of my M39 fairly infrequently but I'd shoot it more if I could get it more often.

>>532554723
I actually find it surprisingly fun in msfs, it's so light it does get thrown around a lot though, and you can basically use it like a glider, I was taking advantage of some ridge lift on mountains to gain altitude.

>>532592515
>gonna build a bridge across the lake
Most do I believe. They can make it up, pavement has magical grip. Their issue is not the wheels though it's the weight, you'll start seeing the same issues with any truck if you over-overload it.

>>532630020
That bridge is an ecological disaster.

OK which one of you ordered the shitbox.

>>532635032
I did, it's to hold up my switch dock

>>532635032
Me, i hate my son.

It's a short runway, but I think I can make it

>>532645049
WE GAAN

>>532645049
Just do the old bush pilot full throttle with the brake on thing.

>>532645708
>max throttle
>full aileron and rudder
>spin around in a circle building up speed
>straighten out and you're at 100 knots
>rotate
Easy

Based Aerges have added BAP-100 and BAT-120 to the Mirage F1. Between that and the recent corrections to the Mk 8* bombs, it's a fucking irresponsible amount of boom you can hang off this fucking aircraft.

I love it.

>>532646719
I enjoy this plane so much. This fast fuck is full of soul.

>>532646063
I think they've added in crap on the windscreen to one of the beta updates because I don't remember seeing it before, I've got what I presume are squashed insects on the windscreen.

>>532646875
Dead right. It feels alive. Especially when you take damage or mishandle something and have a cascade of failures - the failure and damage model are ace. It's such a lovely thing to fly around the pattern too, it trims out so nicely.

>>532646719
oh christ the cold war server is in for a hell of a surprise with that much boom when I get home

>fingerprints on the touchscreen
That's a hell of a 'touch' Carenado, fair play.

>>532647102
I didn't play with it as much as i'd like, but the few times i took it around to train take off and landing, damn. It made me rock hard.

>>532647336
kek if you can get above the apron you're gonna give someone a bad day. You can carry three x 18 of the bomblets and they included both the concrete piercing ones as well as HE/frag so there's some fun to be had.

>>532647448
>greasy fucking fingersprints
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH DELETE THIS

>>532647616
>pass me the yoke bro

>>532647336
Is the server still alive? Haven't played online for a long time.

>>532647465
It is just so pleasant to fly.

Is it worth buying a PC just for iRacing/LMU?

After a lifetime of arcade games, I’ve been taking it much more seriously the past 6 months, and I’m starting to grow tired of GT7’s physics, where getting faster than I am to push the ‘aliens’ times, it’s just abusing the dodgy mechanics.

Seems like a huge investment for two games.

>>532649271
It is a lot for two games, it depends how much you think you'll get out of them, do you not play anything else?

>>532649486
Not really.

I do 3-4 league races a week, so pretty much all my ‘game time’ is spent practicing for those while trying to ignore all the work I gotta get done.

And I think even if I had a PC, the other games I’d usually play (Diablo/casual shooters) are best played laid out on the sofa on the console.

So it rly would be just for sim racing.

>>532649791
Spending thousands for a genre of game is a lot but if you could get a thousand hours out of it then it could be worth it, but it's up to you m8 and if you can afford it.

>>532650275
Yeah, true. I’ll prob end up doing it, I think I’m just trying to justify my choice before dropping a few grand.

Cheers for the input mate.

>>532650391
I bought a new PC mostly for MSFS and a few other games and it was worth it but my previous PC was a decade old.

>>532650391
Getting a PC lets you spend more money on racing than ever before

>ATC isn't telling me to descend and I'll be too high
Not this shit again

>>532635032
I think you know what to do with that, anon.

>>532651158
>The wheel doesn't move with the seat
Don't waste money on half measures.

>>532652645
Should it? The point is to simulate centrifugal force around corners, right? Seems like being pulled away from the wheel would make sense

>>532653015
Does the centrifugal force act on your hands in a real car? Does your seat move away from the steering wheel in a real car? If you are trying to simulate forces correctly, you have to move the controls with the driver/pilot.

>>532645708
>full throttle with the brake on thing
that's normal takeoff procedures

I'm going to give this plane a rest, the autothrottle is dreadful, it'll stall on approach because it can't keep up. I've heard there are fixes coming with the SU3 release for it, I hope they improve it.

>>532654063
I guess gravity does a good enough job of pulling on your body that the seat itself separating you from the wheel is counterproductive?

>>532635032
hueg...

>lean until rpm starts dropping
>lean richer slightly until rpm goes back up
is this the most powerful trick in piston engine management??

>>532657554
Why isn't mixture control in piston engined planes automated?

>>532659417
IIRC some have automated mixture, but for the most part you want the ability to set mixture yourself because checklist says always mix full-rich for landing to give your engine the best chance it has to pull the best horsepower it can. So you need the ability to mix full-rich, mix lean for cruise, and full lean for a full-stop. Definitely don't want to leave that kind of thing to a computer because it can't tell just from your altitude.

American Truck Simulator bros, you got a local flavor piece!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGaw54PfQcU

>>532663741
>bought the DLC when it came out
>haven't even driven in Iowa yet
Maybe tonight

>>532649271
built my pc for flightsims, no regrets.
ovg is probably a better thread for vroomvroom advice, occasionally see assetto corsa, richard burns, or the truck sims in here though.
steam can stream to tv with a bit of fiddling so you don't have to give up couch comfy time either

>>532660505
>>532659417
Same thing for prop pitch, too. You want to be able to set prop at best RPM, and while there is a chart and guidelines for that- It's still best to be able to set it granularly because the plane can't know if you're trying to land, cruise, or maneuver.

>>532646719
yesterday I got the urge to try it out after seeing a shot from behind where it almost looked like the M-346.

will UK residents have to submit a real drivers loicense to drive in euro truck sim?

>>532667394
I can't see this fucking law being sustainable, nobody is going to send private data to porn sites to have a wank, politicians are morons.

The F-22 FEARS the M-346 hypermanouverability.

>>532667848
gamers figured out a workaround >>>/v/716422376

>>532668012
I kneel

>>532648247
Fuck now i want to reinstall ...

>Razscam modules won't be supported anymore with next update
WHAT. THE. FUCK.

>>532668227
>gamers actually rose up

>>532679274
I wonder that in the end who's fault was it actually, Razscam or ED ziggers.

>>532679762
At this point i don't fucking care. I bought the modules from ED, i'm blaming ED.

>>532679274
>entire era of in-dev gameplay scuttled
>M2000 baguettes BTFO
>farmer miggers BTFO
>mudhen cucks BTFO
>harrier fags BTFO
>south atlantic BTFO
thatcher really did get the last laugh

>>532679274
Time to open a class action lawsuit against ED if they don't fully refund us.

>>532682016
>>532679274
JFC so they modules will just stop working over time or be removed altogether?

>>532682924
They didn't do it with the BAE Hawk why would they do it now?

The Hawk was way more egregious because they just pushed a button and removed it from the whole game. You can't even download it if you own it IIRC You have to seek out a version of the game that still has it and just never let it connect to the internet because it'll insta-delete if it does.

>>532682016
mudhen cucks is the worst one.
That module is what, a year old? At least the others can say they got their moneys worth out of it, the M2000C and farmer outliving the entirety of most live service games. Mudhen is just an exit scam missing half of what was promised on the store page (which btw they sold this thing up until last week full price, never a sale)

>>532683834
Fuck Nineline asshole lies about everything so I don't trust a thing the cocksucker says about this either

>>532679762
ED's naturally. There's a schizo named Bonzo82 who does fucking investigative journalism over this shit and recently he found chatlogs that show ED knew about Razbam's contract with the Ecuadorian Air Force (which is the alleged cause of the fallout) and didn't care at the time, they just pretended to be outraged about it later to have an excuse to stop paying them. Basically ED is a money laundering front for Nick Grey's warbird collection so he can keep jacking off inside the cockpits, the Fighter Collection isn't actually profitable with the airshows alone so ED "loans" them a bunch of money every year.

>>532683834
2.9 is due for the end of the summer, right?

What's the best version of MSFS 2024 to buy if I don't care about airliners at all and I already got assoboe raped with the 2020 "Premium" "Deluxe" version?

>>532684805
Is there anything in this pic with NEW on it that you want?
1) Some of them, like the Savage Norden and the SkyCourier, can be bought individually on the marketplace
2) Anything that doesn't say NEW you'll already have carried over from 2020 Premium Deluxe

>>532683308
Seems pretty easy to get the source code, M2M and Galiadet have doxed themselves multipole times. And Ron Zambrano lives in third world shitholes and doxes himself daily.

Simmers rise up.

>>532684273
Bonzo was being "leaked" "info" directly from Ron, the guy is completely unreliable.

>>532684105
>said times and times again that they will keep supporting the mirage/harrier
>"welp, actually its over :)"
Nah i actually believe that one.

>>532685881
Apparently there are more boutique airports depending on how much you spend, is there a list somewhere of which ones exactly? All I can find is pre-release speculation when I go searching for that.

>>532689132
I thought I heard 2024 Premium Deluxe doesn't add any new hand-crafted airports that weren't already in 2020 Premium Deluxe

>>532667848
Isn't that the goal, to supress all masturbation just because

>>532689901
>you WILL have kids to feed the corporate machine
Maybe i would (try) if everything wasn't fucking miserable and grim.

>>532689901
not proper to 'ave lads rubbin' their willies without their willy rubbin' liocense innit?

Is sexy nose art illegal in the UK yet?

>>532691090
Only illegal if the woman depicted is older than 12

>>532652406
Oui, monsieur, it shall be done.

>>532691090
It actually is. A few years back the MOD forbade nose-art on the grounds that the dreadful sexist atrocities on huwomankind might hurt the fee-fees of birthing-persyn soldiers.

>>532694687
0/10, areolas too small, would not chum her waters.

>>532685881
Fuck it; Aviapoor Edition it is...

>>532694687
>>532691090
Where's the weebshit nose girls?

>>532666723
Based

>>532697649
On french jets, of course.

So, will anything happen to DCS, or is everyone just going to take the hit and pretend nothing happened despite 3 modules they bought will get technically deleted from the game? Not like they're small modules either.

>>532716016
UOOHHH FRENCH JET EROTIC
Fuck i'm really gonna reinstall

>>531731121 (OP)
Look I like Aerofly but how the hell does a sim release without a real world weather function or even FUEL CONSUMPTION

>>531783276
>severely forgotten war in vidya
>kino time period of late prop planes and early jets
hell yeah

I know about TrackIR but what are some other head tracking options that are actually worth thinking about? I know there's a few things that work off webcams but surely they aren't very good?

>>532685881
>>532697634
I bought Premium deluxe mainly for the following planes
>H225
>C-17
>Chinook
>Savage Norden
>Pipistel Taurus M
and from the deluxe
>Albatross
>Seastar
>172 steam gauge (I think it's shit that this is in the deluxe and not the base game)
This made getting it worth it as they were all great quality payware planes I wanted and it would have cost more to buy them individually. Most of the others are Carenado slop, which vary in quality, some are actually not bad.

>>532721651
I'd forgotten that existed, how can they even compete with MSFS or X Plane? What does it do better, if anything?

>>532715608
>will anything happen to DCS,

>>532621779
>now that all the surplus has dried up
It started showing up again just lately. The first 6 months of the Ukr war it was almost impossible to find any kind of russian caliber available.
>M39
Sweeet. I have a nice book on finnish nuggets but I still haven't found a unmolested one to buy. Our fudds here will die if they don't immediately refinish the stock of any surplus they get their hands on.

>>532715608
IMHO the -majority- of DCS players are not the kind to really complain about that, they will find a way to justify what daddy ED did to them and push the blame to Razbam.

>>532751034
I've already seen this happen.

>N-NO, CLEARLY RAZBAM MUST BE LYING ED HAS TOO MUCH TO LOSE
then the russian company that has scammed customers in the past does it again and the cycle repeats itself

This is the average DCS player

>>532752465
he looked based and redpilled, i bet he owns the Christen Eagle 2

>>532752181
My angle wasn't even that, I have no idea who is in the wrong and I don't care. My opinion is that when you are the ED, a distributor/main developer etc, you should go past who is right or wrong and work towards a solution that benefits your customers first and foremosts.
This isn't even having morals, it's simple business 101.
Imagine you're doing some kind of work for your customers cars and due to a shitty supplier the work you've done isn't up to standards anymore.
You could easily say "fuck it, it's not my fault" and you'll save yourself a few headaches, lose your clients and be done with it. But those lost customers will talk and you'll lose future sales and your reputation.
If you instead decide to fix the issue even if it wasn't your fault you'll have grateful customers who will recommend you, have more confidence in buying your future products and improve your reputation.
Sadly ED customers for the most part are whales who openly admit to buying modules "just to support DCS" as if they were your local mom and pop shop instead of a greedy company that doesn't care in the least about their customers like all big corporations/brands.

>>532734378
opentrack works with a webcam and neural net face tracking, really only sucks at certain downward angles in the cockpit in low light.
have heard good things about smoothtrack running on a smartphone but haven't tested it.

>>532715608
nothing is going to happen to ED until they start losing military contracts for MCS.
their entire operation is a just russian honeypot to access primary source documentation for western jets and con millions in contracts out of western defense budgets, and that part of the business is still going well.
the consumer arm even convinces average users like >>532752465 to pay hundreds of dollars for the privilege of volunteering their rocketship computers to be part of a russian botnet

>>532647448
>no option to wipe it
*heavy nose breathing*

>>532755763
>access primary source documentation for western jets
The actual secret sauce parameters like MEZ WEZ etc are never given to these contractors and aren't even implemented into the simulators. How the SMS and other interfaces work aren't really THAT classified. Classified enough that you cannot use them in a commercial endeavor, but it's not like any country would really benefit from having those.
I have no data to back this up but I'm sure that the civilian side of DCS rakes in a lot more money than the mil side. I work in a similar enviroment where we both sell to govts and civs and the civs market is our main source of income.

346lad IndiaFoxTechno are working on a TA-4G which might be fun, they're also releasing an update for the 346 soon.

>>532745726
It's a lot less demanding on hardware

>>532763157
based

>>532760739
That's great. I love the A-4 and for MSFS the one available right now is kinda shit.

>>532750640
>Our fudds here will die if they don't immediately refinish the stock of any surplus they get their hands on.
F. We have had a shitload of SMLEs here so a lot of them got molested but what's left of surplus rifles mostly go unbothered these days.

>>532734378
I used a webcam and opentracks AI plugin for a while and that worked pretty good
I ended up replacing the webcam with one of those PS3 eyetoys recently and those seem to be even better, face tracking was much less janky at the weirder angles, particularly looking up and down. I'd recommend one, I got one used for like 15-20 NZD. If I recall you can also get some 3rd party clips that let you properly stick it on your monitor like a normal webcam, rather than the bodged blu tac route I'm currently using lol

Any expert here can tell me what I'm doing wrong with IR missiles in Nuclear Option? I have never had one connect to the point I just gave up load scythes or scimitars instead.

>>532766148
in DCS IR missiles will track their target only when you can hear a high pitch tone that signals they have locked a high heat source. They are also short range. I don't know how it works in nuclear option

https://youtu.be/k-jBuNFqvj0
how do i stop being so fucking butthurt about not being a fighter pilot

>>532766148
Throw them under 3km against AI, otherwise they'll just flare them. They work pretty well but are made for shorts ranges.

>>532775406
fuck their wives or something

>>532775406
>>532779542
If they have wives they're cheating on them even if they are fighter pilots, many such cases.

>>532780454
I'll never understand women. They can have almost perfect lives and husband and will still ruin it for some sex with a stranger. I've literally had a bitch drag me with her to fuck (i'm just a regular fat fuck, never tried anything with her either, i actively told her no but eventually went along) only to tell me 2 days later she had a husband. And from what i learned, dude was lovely, they had a nice house, like, the fuck.
Honestly i'm glad its over, my planes and helicopters would NEVER.

>>532775406
realize they're all uptight type-A cunts who will never know the thrill of taking off from the taxiway and will inevitably become divorced alcoholics and/or fat commercial pilots who never stop talking about this shit once they age out

>>532783129
beans inbound

One thing that I do like about Aerofly is that it has an actual time skip function so I can just skip to my top of descent, not just time acceleration. So I can actually fly the large airliners without having to dedicate several hours to each flight.

>>532721651
How can something as basic as fuel consumption not be implemented? Even just "throttle level = % usage per minute" would be better than nothing

>>532802092
Time skipping is for casuals

>>532806991
If you don't fly on vatsim it's boring as fuck

>>532806110
I don't know, especially because stuff like the aerodynamics are actually really thought out and better than MSFS. I think Aerofly was predominately a glider sim when it started out.

I want VTOL VR but not VR. It's just the perfect level of realism, but I can't be bothered to put on a headset to game. Nuclear Option is close, but just a bit more systems simulation, a bit less chaotic gameplay, and slightly larger map would be nice.

>>532809023
>but I can't be bothered to put on a headset to game

It takes like 30 seconds to put it on and launch the game

>>532809315
still another barrier to startup, plus the heat and sweat.
nta but my vr sessions are always shorter than flatscreen

>>532809023
VTOL VR is good because you actually interact with the cockpit with your hands.

>>532813293
Yeah but I could do that with a mouse

>>532816929
Yeah, and you're wrong for wanting that. There's literally a mod for that btw.

>>532823030
forgot link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g9rrC-5UaU

>>532783129
Wicked

>>532823030
>>532823348
>oh mein gott ist das more EA simslop? Ich must be funding zis immediately!

>>532824306
Fucking germans

What other games exist in the 4th to 5th spot?

>>532823030
>>532824306
>you VILL play ze job sim

>>532806110
>Erm, it's called "flight simulator", not "fuel consumption simulator"

>>532825593
War Thunder, technically. I don't recommend it, tho.

>>532826957
Yeah, I'll pass hard on WT