What's the plan? Edition

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Threadlocked >>531287957

What's the plan?

Threadly reminder that Valve is not going to hinge a game's future based on the player count of the invite-only beta that has had 0 marketing towards it other than word of mouth. Stay in line. Trust the plan, 'lockers. Open Beta will be our salvation.

i'm gonna start writing more fprum posts
i gave up because yoshi never read them but there's so little players now that surely someone will read my feedback eventually

>>531744204
Yeah they'll base it on the low player count of the open beta and then kill it like they've done before.

>>531744407
Then I'd actually consider it to be fair, but given that it isn't an Open Beta yet nor has it been mass advertised to the open internet, you doomfags have 0 reason to exist at the current moment. I'd argue you're controlled opposition from Riot, threatened by the greatness that is Deadlock as the next big game

The black woman of Valve unoriginality.
These are TWO different characters.

>>531744638
aren't they literally changing haze's model or was that bullshit

patch never

Each update is slower and slower. It's like dota 2 except it's already slowed to a crawl before full release. We'll be lucky to see 1 hero a year after the next hero patch.

>>531744953
New hero patch obviously takes longer than removing a lane or having an artist draw shit for items.

Valve needs to add a fox hero to deadlock.

Valve needs to be bullied into making singleplayer games and singleplayer games alone.

>>531745238
they are not adding coomerslop this is not the game for you

>beautiful women = coomerslop
Why are valvedrone incels like this?

>>531745503
coomers already got ivy redesigned plus they are adding vampirebrat, bookworm and that other titcow, it's over

>>531744204
You act like word of mouth and streamer advertising aren't the best advertising methods for games. Why do you think all these game companies pay streamers constantly to shill their games? All the biggest streamers have already played and left. Everyone knows about Deadlock, nobody wants to farm minions and play against snowballing mechanics. Nobody cares

>>531745865
It lacks soul and uniqueness. It's like what happened with One Piece characters for a certain time, every female character just looked like a different Nami. There's barely anything memorable about the characters, it's just a few bright colors, and tits on an hourglass. If I desperately wanted nothing memorable and just something to spark my ape brain into being horny, I'd hop on Tinder or go bust a nut on Pornhub. Not saying you CAN'T make hot unique women, it's just that the decision to do so generally doesn't come from a place of wanting to make your characters as memorable as possible.

>>531746734
nta but i don't think this is a valid argument in this context. anime art tends to be homogeneous within long running series and one piece has been going on forever

>>531746587
The big streamers said deadcock had huge potential once it comes out two/one and a half yearlater and then theyll actually play it again

>>531746587
>streamer advertising aren't the best advertising methods

Streamers don't mean shit. Word of mouth does mean shit. Streamers don't make a game popular, they flock to popular games for viewership. Never cater to streamers or influencers, they're parasites.

>>531746962
Art styles aren't a limitation in terms of what a character can look like, otherwise One Piece men would look similar which they absolutely do not, despite how muscular or attractive they're being portrayed as. The author, and moreso than Oda, the animation studio just got lazy and copy pasted basic designs with minimal changes because gooner standards tend to be very low if they're given something that looks fuckable enough

LEAK SHIT ALREADY

>>531745238
this but even more fox like

>>531748024
NUH UH NIGGA, BE A GOOD BOY AND WAIT FOR THE THURSDAY PATCH WHERE YOU GET YOUR HERO LABS HEROES AND NOTHING ELSE.

>>531746587
It is a good method of advertisement but Deadlock/Valve haven't formally shilled it to anyone or anything. The only huge streamer that I'm aware of touching Deadlock was Northernlion and it was around the time the media embargo got lifted and the game was a little less exclusive than it is now. It still had 4 lanes back then. An open beta would retain far more attention than the incredibly early access build everyone has been playing on now. I hope you are purposefully just baiting, because I'd be concerned if you are genuinely this stupid.

inb4 chatgpt schizo

>mirage with 5 health bars doing my entire health bar within 5 seconds

>>531748709
Mechabreak

>>531749161
clearly a skill issue, should've played around it, etc.

>>531749161
>wtf mirage built good items and i built like a retard?!

>>531749536
(You)

>>531749694
(You)

Everyone making complaints about smurfs in your games should be required to include their rank and statlock page

>>531751084
(You)

>>531745503
You need to stop replying to animeshitter bait

>get called a retard every game
>80% win rate on my hero
>ascendant 6
am i the retard or am i just lucky?

>>531751930
I'm having the same thoughts and the same situation, + some insane winning streak with positive KDA, but I'm pisslow and rank doesnt change. The ''bad at the game'' phase never truly ends does it?

>>531751930
You're a gamer

>valve modeller male references: playgirl, body building mags, washington nude male models
>valve modeller female references:
michelle obama and hillary clinton pantsuit photo ops, the coneheads, black women CEO monthly

>>531753439
guess chinese design marvelslop is more your speed then

>>531753816
the only decent female model is lady geist, the rest are humorlessly sexless

>>531753439
As far as original female characters go, Valve has only ever made three, none human.

>>531754020
who actually gives a shit

>>531754182
Dark Willow and Auroth are the easy ones, but who's the third?

>>531753439
Valvedrones eat that shit up.
>>531753816
Amerimutt design concordslop isn't any better.

>>531753439
geist is pretty

>>531754182
Nigga forgot about alyx zoey and rochelle somehow

>>531755468
you'd be right to call it concordslop if it stayed with the neon prime aesthetic, deadlock is peak kino aesthetic

>>531756619
>alyx
Never found her attractive, more annoying than anything
>zoey
My cute daughter and I don't want to fuck her
>rochelle
Black

Ideas to make the game more kino?

>>531755056
GLaDOS

the problem with the valve commitment to fugly female characters is that it makes their own games less attractive to real women. girls always want to play attractive girls, not mcginnis

>>531759061
why do u want women to play this game?

reminder mmr is basically meaningless

>>531759061
If you want female players you need to add a male scalie hero

>>531759682
noone wants that except furries
you dont want furries to shit up your fandom bec theyre insufferable irl and online

>>531746587
You care enough to frequent these threads 24/7

>>531759061
>. girls always want to play
who fucking cares? women are a microscopic minority in gaming, ESPECIALLY so in MOBAs. you stupid retard.

>>531759061
Women dont play shooters or MOBAs, your opinion is invalid

>>531744467

>>531759061
>is that it makes their own games less attractive to real women
you sound like you're a lonely incel that wants to try and find an epic gamer GF on deadlock so you're trying to advocate for this shit.
actually sad.

>>531759682
Fuck off furfag

>>531744467
>>531761206
I dont feel it chief, its just Shiv with a goat head, not monstrous enough, or not human enough based on whats the main inspiration. Too furry either way

>>531758468
Decutiefy everyone, change the skybox to late evening, rename Fathom ro Slork

>>531759061
the handful of times ive heard women in comms theyve always been playing mo & krill or kelvin or vindicta

>>531762051
reddit opinion

>>531762203
Given how little women speak via voice chat in general, theres no way to tell what would they actually play the most. But I bet their numbers are within the standard error anyway

>>531751930
your gift is too great for me

>>531744467
>>531761206
Make it a female goat and I'm sold

If you are making me only play my white hero over my purple and gold ones, give me the side with less retards.

>>531764786
Stop picking haze and seven then

>>531761525
damn...

>>531765035
'brams and bop*

>>531762203
those were girls (male), not biofems

>>531766802
obsessed

>>531761264
do you want to be my epic gamer GF on deadlock?

>>531761163
My girlfriend mains Jakiro and was Legendary Eagle Master in CSGO, quit when CS2 happened though.

>>531766953
no, I don't like fat people.

of the real life women with real vaginas that have played MOBAs, I have encountered:

- soraka and the big tit music girl from LoL

- enchantress, drow, windrunner from dota 2

- that kpop asian girl from marvel rivals

>>531767364
hold up on the hamburgers there bro, your thighs are bigger than mine and I squat 3pl

>>531767671
not your bro, big back. go to the gym.

>>531753439
You don't like bald female niggers?

>>531766379
What the fuck how. I get Abrams legitimately every time, I feel like im the only person on the server playing him. Sorry then, you must be cursed

>>531766379
then just queue abrams, bebop, and seven and you're bound to get either abrams or bebop

>>531762203
"female" voice on a vindicta player - TROON
female voice on mokril - BIOLOGICAL

patch?

>>531772292
seven is my white

This is by FAR the worst state the game has ever been.

>gun ivy going 2-15
kino. more nerfs inshallah.

>>531775557
Thursday

how do I apply crosshair settings when I go in game and try apply some shit like this
citadel_crosshair_color_r 255;citadel_crosshair_color_g 255;citadel_crosshair_color_b 255;citadel_crosshair_pip_border false;citadel_crosshair_pip_gap_static false;citadel_crosshair_pip_opacity 1;citadel_crosshair_pip_width 2;citadel_crosshair_pip_height 6;citadel_crosshair_pip_gap -7;citadel_crosshair_dot_opacity 0;citadel_crosshair_dot_outline_opacity 0

even one by one it just comes out looking like pic

Do you guys care if you lane partner dies in the first minute?

>>531780580
I care if I end up dying at all pre 5 minutes

>>531780580
I don't care really. I find it hard to care about deadlock matches lately. In more than 50% of matches I feel like I have very little control over the outcome of the match. 4 lanes was better. Nothing will come close to the high that was winning solo lane as haze then teleporting and running around the map single handedly winning the game.

>moderately sized patch just downloaded

What's going on fellas?

>>531781319
>moderately sized
>it's 10kb

>>531781220
I loved solo lane. Probably the most intense thing the game had.

retards be like
>I want solo lane back!
then cry when their solo haze loses to Yamato

>>531783574
nobody is saying that cept you, skill issue much? lmao

>>531783670
newfag

>>531783801
nah, youre just the mentally unwell resident non-replying strawman making faggotposter

>>531783982
how mentally ill are you???

abrams ult is fucking useless

no patch today

>2.5 mb update
They're /here/ and they're listening

patchtime
yw

>>531785020
Patching the game just to change this when everyone is waiting for something major is actually kinda funny

>>531785020
These tiny patches that change little things but aren't posted under announcements, can they be seen anywhere?

Also wen next big patch?

>>531744204
Ok but when are they adding back vindicta's butt?

>>531787195
you Vindictia gooner trannies are the lowest quality posters ITT bar none

when the update drops im expecting at LEAST 8 new heroes, realistically 15

>>531787195
its gone? whats there now

they removed vindicta's butt because she's blue and not black

just beat a pro CS/Valorant player, hilarious af game

/ourguy/ igorNL is back with more custom kino

https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/new-hero-idea-emberlyn.71196/

>vyper slide with infernus DOT

valve hire this man

Got on a huge winstreak, no change in rank. Went on a 3 games lose streak, -2 ranks. I just don't get it.

>>531785020
So this is the patch we were promised, we can keep playing now

https://statlocker.gg/profile/303316168/matches


here's the pro we beat while half the team was tilted at me and another guy for cracking jokes and overall being annoying

>>531790485
fuck off retarded redditspacing tourist.

>>531791282
You might genuinely be right, the "major" patch Yoshi mentioned might be months away for all we know, it's not like these devs have strict deadlines that the community forces them to uphold

How the fuck do you release a patch to the public and NOT realize the Soul Orbs drop through the floor every time someone dies?

>>531785020
>have to restart the game to change one (1) .psd file
>just log off and play a different game instead of having to restart because valve NEEDED to update this one image

>>531783574
true it's much better there is a haze dynamo into yamato infernus lane now instead

Literally every complaint about solo lanes is something that is still present with 3 lanes except now there is also the added cancer that you HAVE to be tethered to a random retard

>>531793903
dont bother, 3 lane tards cant understand

>>531792105
>fuck on reddit gold chad

girls only

>5/6 enemy team players have turbo bullet res
>get like 40 kills+assists as Haze
>build around ult and maybe buy unstoppable
>get like 40 kills+assists as Seven
its gonna be a while before this is fixed

If our feedback doesn't matter then why not just give us the new heroes and ignore the feedback like usual?

>>531793903
You complain about this every thread. You use the phrase "tethered to a retard" every time. If you hate that this is a team game, just play something else. This is some 90IQ retard logic where you think that the team is slowing you down and you'd totally be eternus V if you could solo your lane, but in reality you're just some dunning-kruger retard

>>531795076
hey look, it's that dunning kruger retard calling everyone a dunning kruger retard, why haven't you found a new shtick yet?

>>531794894
umm...uhh well you see I uh...
erm...

>>531795614
yoshi told me it was because of "electrical infetterance"

>>531795076
>Wanting more options in the game is LE BAD
Kill yourself the game has been dumbed down time and time again for subhumans like you

>>531796731
Rank?

>>531797287
>p-post rank please so i can say im eternus 1 million and tell you 4 lanes was bad because i cant use my words and can only rankjerk!

im eternus 1million plus 1

I'm Eternus 6 and think having 4 lanes was kino

the only people that think 4 lanes is good is wraith and haze abusers that just want to rat objectives and love there cringe playstyle

>>531798001

Is /dlg/ ever going to be capable of having a discussion that doesn't end in M1 derangement

>>531798423
it used to be worse honestly people unironically wanted headshots removed and haze whining happened 10x more often

>>531791895
Oracle 3 is pro now?

so what makes seven stupid broken that everyone wants to play him now?

>>531800979
Spirit scaling move speed
Spirit scaling M1 that also reduces spirit resist on hit

>>531800979
Now? He's been stupid broken ever since his ult update and that was ages ago

>>531789376
WE'RE GETTING LIKE 2-4 HEROES AND A FEW VISUAL TWEAKS WDYM

>>531790485
I wish my hero concepts got posted here by random anons.

>>531793903
TRVTHNVKE that buckbroke the docile 3lane niggercattle.
>>531798001
Brown hands typed up this falseNVKE.

>>531800979
Pubshitters just cannot end the game against hyperfarming carries + every other hyperfarming carry keeps getting gutted with nerfs.

>tell the hyper farming seven we need to push lanes
>nooooooo I'll die!
>they take every objective and then he dies

hmmm.....

uh oh the general is dead

I like 3 lanes much better

thank you valve

>obvious duo in my game
>20/3/14
>1/4/11
are they ever going to address this elo tourism problem or will they just ignore it like every other major problem this game has? rhetorical question. sticking your fingers in your ears and ignoring the problems that made 130k players leave is certainly an approach but I don't think they realize it is likely not a good approach

7even will be my ticket back to phantom.

no one likes solo lanes stop peddling this lie jesus christ everyone from the average normie to the pro players legitimately begged to get rid of solo lanes because one of the most hellish things you can experience in the game is being relegated to a solo lane and having the entire outcome of the game hinge upon how much attention is devoted to said solo lane

-1 player and gigabuff solo resources so we can have kino midlane kingdom.

>>531819797
no one said this.

>>531819797
i liked solo lanes
if youdidnt like to be in one you could just swap, autist

If you liked solo lanes you were probably poo elo which is why there's an overlap between people who yearn for solo lanes and people who somehow have smurfs each game. I fucking hate Alchemist II chuds

>>531785020
OPEN BETA?????

Valve needs to add at least 1 bnuuy hero for this game to be saved.

Holiday is so fun. When i'm playing her i don't even care if i'm winning or not, i'm just happy to throw barrels and lasso people

>>531827629
I keep trying to make the headshot build with her and I don't even care if it sucks her gun is just so fun to use.

>>531828227
Yeah going full gun with her is just bad. Just get headhunter and then go spirit for the rest of the items if you really like the third ability

>>531826298
i was phantom 6 with the solo lanes and now i'm like emissary 3

>she is still not replying to anyone and spamming her shitty opinions
wew mental illness goes crazy fr fr

>>531827629
i just can't make the barrels feel fun whatsoever
they feel so fucking clunky

>>531828798
Are you doing the barrel launch trick where you jump, barrel and then immediately melee to launch them? They're horrible to use if you don't, but once you get the hang of it it gets really fun.

>>531828695
Ok shallow tard, it's because you were hard carried by your OP bebop

>>531828695
I'm shit at this game and back then even i was phantom 3, now i'm down to ritualist. They changed something about the rating system

Please leak stuff...

>>531829497
leakers arent real, they dont exist

>>531828695
This is unironically the real redpill for why there is a small group of people that beg for solo lane back. Almost all of them dropped in ranks massively after it got removed and they never recovered, so instead of adapting or getting better at the game they simply beg for the devs to save them

>>531828942
i played lash though

>>531830819
bold of you to assume that i gave a shit about ranks in the first place, it was just funner not to be tied down to a lane for the first 10 minutes. the most fun i had was just going from mid lane to mid lane from the top row of the museum and instagibbing fools that didn't react in time, it was basically throwing from in economy perspective but it was still so fucking fun

>>531831115
3lanetards are the true pooplow copers who still have never ganked a lane in their life

>>531828934
i'm not but also the jumppads feel really bad too
they're always getting stuck on terrain or floating somewhere

>>531831345
3 lane fags don't know how to read their minimap and have such shit macro they crumble at the thought of having an additional lane to consider

>>531832464
Try learning that tech then, she becomes a whole new character after you do, its super worth it. Its not even hard, just jump then press 1 and q in quick sucession in the air, you'll launch the barrel where you're aiming and it blows up on impact. Then you can run around blowing people up

>a 6 lane map where each of the 3 lanes that leave the base fork into 2 lanes at the walkers, everyone has a solo lane but each other lane is close enough to gank whenever

Three lanes except one lane is on the rooftops, one is on the streets, and the other is underground.

4 lanes or the game dies, simple as

>>531832584
Thinking 4 lanes took more macro skill is instantly outing yourself as low elo

4 lanes was just soulslop lmao

>>531833825
or i could just play lash like a normal person

wtf mode when

4 lanes
1 on top of map/roofs via skybridge magic
2 on ground left and right side/hand
1 underground
Makes ganking much more difficult 2 on ground are too far apart, rooftop and underground lane in middle also too far to gank, top lane can see ground heroes coming and underground takes too long to get to

Just played 2 extremely passive games back to back. I'll take chain feeders holding W over the passive niggers any day.

2 lanes
4v4
An extra lane shows up either on the rooftops or the sewers

Weird how all of these bullshit problems that the game has started to crop up when 3 lanes was introduced.

Love being forced to baby some ham fisted retard every match.

Also this game has too many high piched voiced faggots and an overwhelming amount of people with the autistic speech impediment where the 'W' their 'R's

Learn to fucking speak or shut the fuck up. Be thankful my creamy voice blesses your ears, and my huge brain carrying your game.

>>531834856
Gigatranny, this does not even mean anything

>>531835998
it was there from the start but the solo lanes got the blunt of the blame when it's just a systematic issue
same as the old items being blamed on for builds not being that diverse because you could just build everything. turns out if you cut the universal stats on each item and reduce the item slots you still don't really get unique builds because the items themselves don't really change how you play.

Any yuro for a few games? Am training viper but if I suck (I will) I'll go back to my usual dynamo

>>531836148
>>531835998
lmao

Faggots already forgot how we had fucking nonstop soul economy changes with 4 lanes

>>531793903
4 lanes were fundamentally flawed and only furthered shitty macro plays like ratting and further lane micromanagement which is inferior to actually fighting together as a team

The reality is everyone here is such a diehard mindraped valvedrone they'll jerk off and defend any change that happens to this game even though switching to 3 lanes cemented this game dying

>>531838025
The reality is you had the same complains about 4 lanes as you have now with 3 lanes, you have no memory, no brain and no will to live, even if this game dies theres no chance you will outlive it tranny

>>531838296
No 4 lanes was flawed but I quite liked it compared to 3 lanes ESLbro

>>531838296
Look at this fat subhuman valvedrone, how cute

>>531836180
will you speak in a sissy voice?

>>531837675
they literally never tried making it so if you have 3 people in lane it's diminishing returns like it is now though

>>531839549
never ever

>>531839830
then stop posting you fuck

>>531839909
but I just did sir

>>531839965
im not gonna reply to your post moron

>>531840064
but you just did

>>531838757
Have fun being filtered by the teamplay in a team-oriented game tranny

>>531838296
yeah, retard? but i had more fun with 4 lanes. that's the entire fucking point

I mean the numbers don't like 3 lanes was obviously a good cha-

Oh wait.

Metro can you fuck off retard nigger

>>531800919
Actually it should bother you that a sizable portion of literal whos are ranked above pro CS/Valorant players and it just so happened these literal whos have never tried to stream any other game or have never gotten top ranked in any other FPS/Hero shooter

>>531817845
>>obvious duo in my game
sorry you're a friendless loser, bro. it's not their fault you're an insufferable douchebag no one wants to be around so he's forced to solo and seethe at people with friends.

>>531844354
What?

I've played most of the cast now and I think Shiv is probably the most braindead hero in the entire game, I'm actually shocked his winrate is so low people must just be running meme shit on him

>>531845969
Yeah but you're low elo, try watching a high elo shiv

>>531845307
The upper ranks are littered with cheaters who have suspiciously never been this good in any other game

>>531845969
Shiv needs to manage his rage meter and stay in close range to deal damage, the real easy mode hero is Warden

>>531848570
>never play warden
>make tilted shitpost on private forums about Warden being broken last year when his fire rate scaled with spirit
>laughingvalvedevs.png
>start playing Warden a year later after he's had basically zero nerfs besides the spirit-fire rate
>70% winrate over the last 100 games
heh

>>531851175
i don't mind warden but i find it genuinely unbelievable that he just gets to literally walk away from every single encounter
even if you buy slows chances are he WILL just walk away from you. no tech no anything just raw w

>>531848570
shiv isn't easy mode but the "having to manage his rage meter" is really a fucking meme
you'll never be in a situation where if you don't have it you can just quickly do a few camps or harass a little and then go in outside of lane. you either have it basically at full with one or two knives or you don't have it.
imo they should just ditch the whole rage meter thing and go all in for the knives shit since that's the most fun part of his kit but w/e

>>531851175
He's legit the most safe hero in the game
>oh you're low on hp in a teamfight? just ult
>oh you need to run away? just flask so noone can dash to you and press willpower
>oh you're being bullied by a movement-based hero? just binding word and keep going
Dont forget, good gun, good stat gain per lvl/boon, kit good enough in a duel and in a teamfight at the same time. I'm surprised people here don't bitch about him more often

>>531855547
I think people here are genuinely schizo over the DEI shitposting leading to them giving actual broken cancer a pass (Seven, Warden, etc) to bitch about Wraith or Haze instead

What hero gets the absolute least out of Majestic Leap. Haze?

>>531851996
just make him get the rage benefits for x seconds after an ulti kill. way easier to balance

>>531856429
The Lash because he already has that mobility

just had a game where abrams owned everyone using nothing but gun

zero green, all gun

>>531856429
haze can use it to drop surprise ult
probably ivy because it has 0 synergy with all her abilities

>>531856886
it's good on him specifically because he likes vertical mobility, it still benefits his ult and kick a lot

>>531857352
You can level and use your 2nd ability on Lash that one isn't a passive try it

>>531856886
Yea the character with an ability that scales damage based on his height gets nothing out of being able to hit the skybox from the floor in 2 seconds.

>>531857570
having an ability that does something similar to an item doesn't means that the item is literally useless on the hero
most of the time it's the opposite, it amplifies that utility (if the ability has some manner of synergy with the rest of the kit, that is) and that's the case here, plus majestic leap has extra utility that lash's 2 doesn't has (namely that you don't need anyone around to use it and can aim to go wherever you want) which compliments it even further
saying majestic leap is bad in lash is like saying extra slide items are bad in vyper because she already gets extra slide from her ability and it's honestly an embarrassing read of itemization and kit synergy

>>531856747
kinda seems like it'd make him into a win more button desu but maybe it could work

These stupid Valve cocksuckers need to fix matchmaking so it doesn't take 20 minutes.

I never had a problem with having a duo lane partner until last night.
>infern hiding 20 feet behind tower
>mirage diving with tornado and face tanking shit like a tard
>haze
last game I had another mirage that teleported to blue as soon as he got his ult and never came back
I just opened up green and went and farmed boxes
they took the shrine in 9 mins

>>531858450
If only he could already do that without spending a stamina mastery's amount of souls to do it
>>531858650
yeah i ain't readin all that

why did they add a cooldown to the zipline speed boost
it was fun to instantly be back on lane for free the first time around

>>531859447
you're
starting to see the light. solo lanes were the right path

>>531859993
i bet you are russian

>>531860924
i bet you i am not

Were now past the 72 day mark between major updates
Next week surely

>>531856917
Hell yes, thats how I build him too. Gunbrams is insanely fun, watch people self stun with a parry then having no idea why is their 4k hp melting in seconds. Its my favourite way of playing him, spirit or tank isnt even close

>>531862693
it's a bi annual schedule bro be patient they're a small indie company of passionate developers

Here's my idea of fixing everything that is wrong in this game: make movement speed and movement techs faster, revert all movement nerfs
>CS and CoD tourists now cant M1 their way to victory
>OW tourists cant reliably spam skills and tag along as a support
>noskill vindictas, gay talons and seevns cant expect to just fly/spa abilities in lane and in game with zero downsides
>games are now shorter, map traversal and teamfights are now more fun
This is a 100% true solution with no harmful side effects whatsoever

>>531855754
Because Wraith, Haze and Calico have flashy shit, Warden is simply ''press anything to win'' with no particle-enchanced zoomer garbage. Seven puzzles me, high wr, high pickrate, flashy skills and ult, yet he only started gaining hate recently

>shit on infernus 0/4 in lane, taking his guardian and walker
>fucks off to the jungle for 15 minutes
>has the most souls not just on his team, but in the entire game, and 1v3s when ganked
>goes out of control even further, singlehandedly winning the game after a 1v5 fight because he has infuser, unstoppable, and leech
i sincerely hope this game dies soon because that was the least fun ive had in an online game in years, and i used to play dota and lol

>>531864540
just reduce hp by 20% and gun dps by a further 5% and make respawn time based on boons instead of time
you know it to be true

>>531866470
>just make burst cancer even more cancerous
why?
>make respawn time based on boons instead of time
that's actually a good idea

>>531844695
you missed the point entirely in fact I don't think you read past the first line

>>531864540
Just add a casual game mode retard

>>531865487
Losing lane needs to matter way more and they should nerf jungle even more.

>>531866728
burst is fun and easier to counter

>>531866728
>>make respawn time based on boons instead of time
>that's actually a good idea
No, its just going to make the feeding retard niggers feed more

>>531856429
Shiv

Queue up faggots. Matchmaking is taking too long again.

Tuesday or Thursday next week
Trvst

>>531751930
Your gift is too great for me

>>531869986
no, it incentivizes killing the enemies big guys because they are dead for longer and the 6th net worth nigga barely feeds souls

>>531869986
Retards will feed regardless of the game state, but killing 1v6ing enemy fed carries will matter more so I'm ok with this suggestion too

>>531864540
Based takes

>white haze
>white lash
>purple the hero you actually want to play
>GUARANTEED to get your hero

yuro ?

>build gun and green items
>top damage was kinetic pulse
tranny hero's stomp is so fucking busted
shit goes through cover

Do we get a faster or slower patch cycle if we sacrifice Yoshi to the Patrons?

Leaker here, here's part of what's coming in the new update next week

>>531878935
What the fuck did they do to have this become a build? I came back after a few months absence and then Dynamo's stomping waves down and hitting me around corners for half my health

>>531884676
>>531878935
*jumps*
*takes zero damage*

i like how nigfernus can build himself a full gun build with no spirit items and afterburn will still do 1k+ damage

>>531889682
It's because he flash farms like a motherfucker and maintains top networth and because they gave innate spirit with soul count to account for bullet growth in the past he just double dips. great design. remove ALL on hit effect passives.

I give up this game is dogshit

People in this game are so bad it's unreal. Hopefully some more MOBA players join and less FPS players because FPS players are completely braindead.

games full of shitters this seven is just permanently in jungle half the networth of the enemy vyper because he's sat saccing every walker so he can spend just another minute in jungle on large camps so he can feed 1500 soul bags to the enemy vyper. you point out this is happening and these shitters report you and you get comm banned. AWFUL.

>>531894371
first moba, retard?

Deadlock should have been a anime style game with cute girls instead of this DEI slop, but thats too much soul to be expected from Valveslop in 2025

>>531894371
My guess is some people legit dont understand that creeps give more souls than jungle. Which is weird since its the same thing in Dota2, idk about LoL

>>531895710
Weeb of 15+ years with nothing but love for the medium here, and I'm so fucking glad they didn't make it random slop with no indiscernible style of its own, thank God. It's wonderful the way it is now, we just need a big patch to freshen things up.

is matchmaking unironically raped right now why am I getting opponents marked 1-2 ranks above

absorbing damage by giving someone a shield should count towards healing

>>531896993
I'm Oracle III and my last two games have been Phantom V.

>>531894371
>>531896062
NTA, but then explain how the hell these types of hyper farming players end up 20k souls ahead of literally everyone? It happens so damn often.

>>531902971
>rack up 3-4 late game kills
>become wealthy
thats usually how it goes desu

>>531903143
No, they have 20k more souls BEFORE getting those free kills which in turn, gives them even more to snowballs with. Explain how they got the 20k in the first place.

>>531902971
if they have any braincells, then by farming lane and moving into jg after the lane is pushed.
If the matters take place in pisslow, then by ignoring their team fighting all the time while the enemy doesn't push and press the advantage until the critical farming mass is reached, at which point afk farmers start snowballing outta control. Lack of counterbuilding/focusing in a teamfight also helps.

>>531903404
It has a lot more to do with boxing than jungling

>>531903658
Its the same thing really, normal way of getting boxes is grabbing them on your way between lanes.

>>531751930
your gift is too great for me

>>531896135
>It's wonderful the way it is now
too bad they're making it cuteslop isn't it

trophy collector on beam kelvin is so good bros..

>>531751930
Your gift is too great for me

>>531906385
I never noticed there is a dildo on that bow

>>531903978
Your default state in the game should basically always be heading to a lane and doing boxing > machines > camps. Large camps are like the fall back point when there's no urn, no machines, no boxes, no buffs. Like yeah you should take it but there's a flow to it. It's the faggots that sit there legit saccing waves and letting their walker take chip so they can farm 600 souls over the course of a minute that piss me off.

>>531906385
What would he look like with the grandma hair

>sits afk in jungle for the first 20 minutes of the game
>feeds 1500 soul bags ritually to whoever had a good lane so they have double your networth
>presses ult while the enemy team is leaving when patron drops

I know there's literally less than 0% chance of this ever happening but if deadlock became a genre, then I wish they would make an arcanum deadlock clone. I could get interesting with how magic and technology interfere with eachother, so you wouldn't just have to think about abilities and items, you would also have to consider the fact that magic spells would fail around machines, and guns would break when near magic.
At the very least it would create battles that feel different than the overused 'spam stuns and damage until enemy dead' or 'heal until enemy dead' strategies in most mobas.

>>531884062
okay NOW overwatch is dead

>>531906385
>>531910617
>heres your lane partner bro

>>531912646
>magic spells would fail around machines
We can already see this is not the case in Deadlock's universe where machines and mechanisms are powered by magic, from guns to airships.
Magic and occult is very mainstream and widespread there, people use spells on their children to make them obey their parents, werewolves are a delicacy, people can visit their relatives in a neighbour plane of existance. The world exists with magic being an inseparable part of it and its a way more interesting worldbuilding format IMO

>>531896993
bro theres hardly any games happening, there are even less people playing than what steam charts show

>rank up
>instantly get uncarryable team that actually thinks they just 5 man jungle from 9 minutes onwards
>russian faggot crying all game about 'subhuman animals'

So uhh, where's my patch?

>reddit wants shiv nerfed again
they just want to ruin all my fun

has anyone ever had the game randomly crash resulting in a display driver timeout?

Sinclair is so fucking funny, the enemy team is pushing my base and i'm just standing on the fountain wall with my clone spamming missiles that hit for 800 damage and then turning everyone into a rabbit its so stupid

>>531912646
nigga genuinely what the fuck are you talking about
if you wanna chat about arcanum there's a general for that and it's genuinely so much better than this one it's not even funny

>>531917473
He clearly wants a CRPG set in Deadlock universe

>>531917728
except that what he's describing is just magic steampunk and not deadlock. so yknow just fucking arcanum

>>531917728
he's saying the opposite, a deadlock "clone" made in arcanum's universe

>>531919564
No I'm not.

>>531919564
Yes I am don't listen to >>531920028

>>531919564
No really, I'm not, >>531920693 is not me.

>>531916048
i dunno, the total matches was at 800ish which feels like the average at peak EST hours, especially on a weekend. according to statlocker i went against 1 eternus and 3 oracles and most of my team was in the archon range. leddit had a similar post where their team average was alchemist 6 (or arcanist. the green one) vs an Archon 6 average. not sure what went wrong today/

>>531918203
And like i told him Arcanum's premise doesn't work in Deadlock, since technology and magic there are interchangeable and interconnected, so he doesnt understand the rules of the setting but thats not the main point.
Anon likes Deadcock's setting and wants a mechanically complex RPG in it, not a Dota2+TF2 game we have now. And this isn't too bad of a wish, a TTRPG would be a better fit tho

McGinnis turrets yoyo between useless and bullshit, just fucking remove them Jesus Christ.

>win most games
>lucky to maybe go up 1 rank after going on a 5 win streak
>lose a game
>instantly deranked and will require me to go on that same 5 win streak to go from fucking oracle 3 to 4
this game's ranking system sucks so much fucking dick I am perpetually playing in matches that are an entire bracket above me and I'm penalised so heavily for losing once.

>>531916942
Thursday, we've been saying this for over a week now, just fucking wait for the 24th

>>531916942
>implying it's even worth it
the community will still be dog shit retarded
your games will still be coin flips based on a chat gpt algorithm
enjoy

>>531932227
I have a high winrate because I'm good at the game

>lose a game that is two brackets above me
>lose a rank
>win a game that is two brackets above me 3 times
>no rank up
cool game

>went from archon 5 to emissary 3 in a week
>leavers, ragers, and bad matchmaking every single game
>check reddit and around here, not the only one

so uh, is the NA playerbase that low? what the fuck is going on?

This game is actually so bad. It's remarkable Valve will release this shit with their name on it.

>>531934621
theres no point in caring about rank atm, if the matches are even the game works

Team fights in this game are a complete mess and the game would be better if they removed the zip lines.

This game is bad and I'm upset and trans btw

Please push your lanes. I don't understand players who are allergic to lanes. Just shove the wave. It gives gold, and a lot of it. Please don't just run in circles in the jungle all game

>>531948468
i'd rather keep missing the timing on the sinner's sacrifice and taking 10 minutes to clear a lvl 3 camp, thanks

guess ill just climb with turret spam ginnis

>>531953579
Game is far from feature complete, why care about climbing?

losing 130k players and still not changing anything significant about the game is actually a good thing. masterful gambit by valve, they truly are gods amongst us mere mortals! what will they do next!

>>531957113
Correct. Valve should have closed the public playtest ages ago and stuck with the secret club again.

>>531953765
why do you care?

>>531958160
I asked first, fagboy

>>531958324
so? I asked you secondly

>>531958401
So? I asked you firstly

>>531957325
past year has shown they have no idea what they are doing so instead they should just shut down the project entirely. save themselves some time and money

>>531958983
On the contrary I actually gained some semblance of respect for them when the secret club build leaked.

I legit thought that what we publicly got was all they had.

>>531959330
sorry but I am not impressed by the same game + several hero placeholders. you don't lose over 90% of players because of a lack of new heroes

>>531959762
Yeah you lose it by being an incomplete alpha.

>>531957113
IT'S PREALPHA SEETHE MORE NIGGER

this is the 100th time I've had some retarded bums scream at me for not rushing into the team 1 by 1 when they have rejuv

they did the secret beta because the actual playerbase have no idea how to play. hopefully valve will just market this exclusively as a MOBA so these people go away

>>531960740
Pretty sure there must be a lot of shitters in the secret club. Like that one tranny with awful builds that got in.

>>531960245
incomplete alpha but we would never ever change anything significant about the game
it plays exactly like it did a year ago just with a new map and shaders but all the people who left that game will return to the exact same game because.....they just will ok????

>>531960810
Almost all of high elo in the competitively strongest region doesn't have access, yet a tranny that spams linepro tier builds and a assorted bunch of pisslows on the forums have it.

>>531960908
They will return because it will actually be complete and not have updates every other week upending the meta.

>>531962251
>They will return

The only thing that'll get them to return is if they add cuter heroes. They can start by adding a qt bnuuy with freckles and spectacles.

>>531962251
>they will return because itll be even less alive (in the live service meaning of the word) than it is now
that's not how it fucking works, when have you heard the players of one of these games complaining and leaving en masse because of TOO many changes? It's the other way around. Not only that but deadlock isnt even updated that often at all.

>mystic reverb on lethal venom
lol

>>531962994
your brain has been damaged by the constant and unquestioned consumption of mass produced soulless media that was designed for the single purpose of extracting money from you. They've abused your primitive monkey instincts against you and all you can think of is to beg for more. I do not wish this on deadlock or anyone for that matter, neither should you if you have any brain matter left

>>531963063
nta and even though I want deadlock to succeed. I can't think of that many games that became even more popular after early access besides maybe baldur's gate 3 and minecraft, and even then, minecraft has basically always remained a success.
Perhaps deadlock is just too much for the average casual

>>531964932
Literally every single modern esportsfag game became way more popular later in its life compared to when it came out.

>>531964531
4chan is filled with people like him now, its sad

>>531965129
just like brink, quake champions, battleborn, lawbreakers, gigantic, atlas reactor, loadout, battlerite, heroes of the storm and paladins amiright?

You guys realise this game is making 0 money right now so there’s literally no reason to try and regain players until it has a monetisation system set up

>>531963063
>>531964932
China hasn't even properly gotten into this game yet and that's like half its potential playerbase.

>liking aesthetically pleasing woman = gooner
why are valvedrones so prison gay?

>>531966562
yeah I can see that
>valve makes it so that you always have to build the same items
>with the same heroes
>against the same matchups
>using the same macro every single match
>game becomes number one sensation in China and 80% of players now look like clones of each other

China is NOT going to get into this game lmfao. The art style is the opposite of what they like with monsters and big burly men.
>B-but there's Geist... and... Vindicta...?
Lmfao Asians literally do not give a shit about anything but goonerbait. This is not even exaggeration or putting them down it's just fucking facts that have been studied time and time again.

>>531967070
>muh gay
>muh sexy wamen
why can you only think about sexuality and appearances if you're not addicted to porn as a coping mechanism for much deeper issues you're not even remotely mature enough to face?

>>531967214
maybe so, but valve can still ruin the gameplay until it feels like competitive Papers Please and they'll show up in rows

NO PATCH EVER DEAD GAME DEAD GAME VALVE LEFT US FUK!

my life is a simulacrum of a real life, so I play deadlock

I

Want

To

Play

As

Frank

>>531966562
china's dota scene is dead as hell. why would deadlock's be any different?

>>531970094
Exactly. There was never anything in Dota to attract China. The only reason they had a strong presence in the early days of Dota 2 is thanks to Dota 1.

>>531966335
don't forget shartifact and blunderlords for good measure!

>>531970367
hasnt dota TI been dominated by china for like six yrs?

>>531970492
no? it's all europeans and slavs unironically. maybe some SA teams here and there.
NA and China don't really care about dota.

>>531967214
Why do you think the visual redesigns are happening lmao

>>531970492
Lmfao no. China hasn't been big in Dota for like 7 years now.

>>531965129
>every single one
Name 2 games other than CS:GO that became significantly more popular

>>531971123
the visual redesign is clearly trying to appeal to the fortnite crowd rather than the coomers
otherwise you'd see ivy with actual tits instead of a cutesy goblin and pocket as an actual woman

>>531896135
Intentionally ugly designs and Forced diversity from groups like sweet baby is "wonderful"

>>531971631
>>531964531

>>531971259
>fortnite crowd
What? Pocket became more like an asian kpoop twink.
McGinnis got less westernized.
And there is no world where Valve makes Vampire Bat without the Asian audience in mind.

Even the overall style of the models with the pseudo cel shading makes it less grim than it was before.

>>531971884
Zero self awareness
I dont pay for video games, enjoy your ugly, committee made slop!

>>531972291
>Pocket became more like an asian kpoop twink.
he's just actually nonbinary now (appealing to the western sensibilities; it isn't literally just obviously a dude). I have no clue how do you see someone with his fucking fit and thing it's a kpop twink just because he's asian with an anime haircut.

>McGinnis got less westernized.
they literally just made her Rosie the Riveter, a western cultural icon for women's right to work, what the actual FUCK are you talking about?

>And there is no world where Valve makes Vampire Bat without the Asian audience in mind.
>bro, trust me. this unreleased, by the numbers vampire character? TOTALLY meant to appeal to the chinese
i got news for ya buddy. queen of pain didn't bring a wave of chinese people to play dota.

>Even the overall style of the models with the pseudo cel shading makes it less grim than it was before.
so you see how it's trying to appeal to the fortnite crowd, then?

deadlock isn't a real videogame, it's a social experiment. how many times have you been just jumping around having fun but then suddenly someone on the mic starts whining about you for no particular reason? could be something like having low souls count, not following them even though they never ping or say anything even though they have voice comms?

it's a social experiment to see what sort of awful people play valve games

>>531972735
>I give in to my monkey instincts, have no self control or respect and let companies exploit it against me but I'm based because I paid for it with my brain cells rather than money.

>>531962994
looks like that bookworm hero that we already know we're getting

>>531973131
see >>531969617

>>531973243
why are you pretending as if pandering only happens to coomers
every live service multiplayer slop is inherently exploiting you for either your time or your money. they're a total waste of time unless you're making a career out of them. past a few couple dozen of hours you'll find yourself having a numb to downright awful experience more often than not and you'll keep going for hundreds if not thousands more before you break the cycle. you'll most likely not form any meaningful relationships during this time and in fact you might lose a couple during it as well. yet you'll keep playing.
tell me; does this sound like it'd only affect the compulsively masturbatory?

>>531962994
>being proud of being a tranny

>>531923312
NAGASH WAS WEAK

>>531973243
PLEASE get your IQ tested, you are likely eligible for financial compensation

add paper boy character for kinography. he throws newspaper at you

this guy looks pretty neat

>>531964531
>>531973487
>>531977278
Lmao why do you keep taking the same animenigger bait all over again, do you really have nothing better to reply to

>>531973112
Here's how you really improve the game: confirm Pocket is a guy. Congrats, you just made the shittiest part of the community seethe and kill themselves, no more animeshit complaints and ''support'' players, hire me valve

>>531978654
nuvalve would never sadly

>>531978389
he looks like a mafia goon like momo, I like it

>>531978654
no gameplay impact

>>531973131
>how many times have you been just jumping around having fun but then suddenly someone on the mic starts whining about you for no particular reason?
Literally zero, sounds like a (you) problem
>>531978996
Deleting subhumans from the playerbase is directly beneficial to the gameplay

>>531979136
you know when you actually play the game and not spend your day on twitter or /news/ you see the problem isn't pocket being a they/them (80% sure everyone calls him the kid). The problems are effects on hit niggers like infernus or AFK farmers.

BIG update tomorrow

>>531980092
2MW

here's your blue lane after 30 fucking minutes

>there are people that STILL think you can hear them when they push to talk after the weakened patron is destroyed

>>531980993
I already muted your sissy voice

>>531981117
*flings a pair of diarrhea soaked underwear at you*

>>531980572
Thats ok, somehow this warden is going to farm 10k more souls and 1v6 entire game

Um yeah it's the twittertroons and redditors at bottom 4 ranks that call Pocket a they/them that ruined this game

lmao

>>531980092
>BIG UPDATE ON A SUNDAY

>>531980092
>>531985217
You have to be retarded to believe this btw

Metro stop making posts in this thread you stupid nigger monkey even overwatch droolers clown on your retarded monkey ass fuck off already

Day for your daily slice... of Breadlock!

>>531986840
I want to rape the anon that made this post

So why does every game on EU always have at least couple russians on each team?
Why is there no russian containment server?
Often we even get asians with moon rune names and ungodly ping, but at least they're usually not brain dead. You'd think there would at least be asian server. Is the game so dead valve can't afford more than US and EU servers? Russians are always the fucking worst, most brain dead and loudest useless retards in any valve game.

>>531990569
there used to be but they cried and for some reason Valve listened

here's your 6k damage shiv at 25 minutes bro!!! phantom is basically OW pro level btw!!!

EU cope is so bizarre, you aren't losing because you're getting Russians on your team

>>531982757
>all that green
that warden ain't 1v6ing anything besides 6 boxes

>statlocker has my 'estimated pp rank' bullshit website as ritualist
>i fluctuate between top 100-200 on my hero

>>531991783
You have to play your hero like 20 times a week to even place on the leaderboards. So pretty much everyone that spams a hero will place on the board even if they suck ass (you, for example)

>>531990569
>Is the game so dead valve can't afford more than US and EU servers?
Yes.

>>531990996
>t. coping rusnigger

Daily remider that when valve made a location-based matchmaking change in Dota2 russoids were the first to complain about muh exclusion and bigotry, since they had to face the consequences of being put into all monkey team vs all euro team and boy did they cry about it. And the same shit happens in every game with large russian population in it, denying this means you're either clueless or a liar.

>>531991397
Eh, spirit/green warden can work, its his most popular build anyway

>>531992626
yeah it's insane how bad they are in vidyas and how much they are able to stink up the joints

I SURE DO LOVE A FUCKING INFERNUS FARMING ALL GAME IN THE JUNGLE ALL TO DIE WITH A 2K SOUL ORB FOR THE ENEMY TO PICK

>>531993496

The only good thing with ruskies is the absolute insane shit they type in the chat

>>531993542
very funny saved

>>531990996
yeah okay vladnigger meanwhile history says different. both times on dota and this game when russians were forced to play with only other russians they got ass raped and had fucking horrible games 24/7. you're a cancer and I hope you get droned by nato soon you worthless vodka swilling nigger russian pig. the last time russians were remotely intelligent was the 1700s. you've been retarded pigs since. rope.

The only person that could deny russians being retarded animals is a russian. Truely delusional. Even NA has been exposed to you honorary indians. The whole world knows you are fit for a grinder.

it's really impressive how they created so many powerful items like focusing lens then gave cunts like Haze so many prebuilt damage

okay so match making cannot be fixed
but what about hero match up

>>531991947
post your rank on your heroes then sweetie

>>531979136
If you haven’t had someone throwing a hissy fit in game you’re just lying

will Counterspell still be worth it when they make it 6400?

>>531997096
Focus lens is objectively bad, a 6400 item which gets mogged by a 3200 debuff remover.
>>531999721
I've seen people crying about their teammates, op enemy heroes, missed skills, no help, refusing to go midboss or urn, or other generic shit, whatever, but never once have a I been singled out by some troglodyte to complain about my farm or build or anything.

>>532000070
The activation stats are already pretty much directly comparable to E Shift, but the conditions to activate are worse and obviously a single instance of spirit damage avoidance is less powerful than up to 4 seconds of full immunity.

>>532000070
Not really, its in a good spot as is

>focus lens now makes bullets curve towards the focused target
thank me later icedog

>>532004427
actual hatecrime item
would be funny as shit though

>>532000636
focus lens is hilarious, watching someone go from 1/2hp running away thinking theyll live suddenly go to 0 is so fukn funny

>>531960810
Basically none of the good players in NA or EU have access. It's full of retards and that's why the last patch was so retarded.

>>531990569
Outside of shit ranks, the eastern Europeans are way, way better at this game than the western Europeans. It's not even close right now.

Lash looks super fun, any tips?

>>532004427
don't do this

>>532006191
Ult people towards your team at every opportunity, even if it's just a random single target, it's almost always a guaranteed kill if they're truly out of position

Valve will pull the plug on this as soon as the 20 people working on Steam revolt cuz they're sharing their bonuses with the trannies and niggers working on this game

>>532006870
am gonna need more buzzwords

You should be calling retards out more often.

>>532006191
Your jump skill brings flying shits down. Enjoy bullying Ivy/GT/Vind, they all deserve it

>>532007838
>giga nerfed c tier Ivy deserves it

>>532007767
Ok retard

IDK why you want to play Wrait
its like being a bot

>>532008028
Im going to bully you

>>532008185
please señor it's already painful

>>531867243
retarded tranny

>want to play vyper
>2 wins out of 13 games
>lowest elo hero
>just got placed in a phantom game
>as archon

>>531978654
TRVTHNVKE that buckbroke the SBI valvedrones.

>>531978654
the fact that you care this much is really sad btw.
you're just as bad as the the basedfacing liberals getting this triggered over a clump of pixels going by "They". actual snowflake behavior.

>>532010924
I want to trvke your mouth with my nvke annexing the gays from the game wouldnt do shit

>>532008234
Its too late, IceFrog has noticed an Ivy player using anything except a support cuck build and having fun, another round of nerfs it is

>>532012856

>>532014173
what's up

Why it's always the fucking beginner haze or infernus on my team while the other has the seasonned one, I can't carry genetic defects

>>532018642
Same for me, it's a tragedy. MM issues.

>>531978654
>AAAAAAAH Scary pronouns!! yikes!
Rent free, but its ok if they are "a guy" in your headcanon

>>532023015
Everyone knows Pocket is basically the Elliot Page of Deadlock, with 'his' fake ab implants, massive zipper scars tits, and his fake little faggy mustache that needed 10 months of targeted minoxidil to grow

just a few more days until the patch makes everything fresh again...

Doorman should be very good for the game. I can't wait for entire teams to just pour out of random veils without a moments notice

Just checked my last 20 games, shiv has been on the enemy team 17/20 times in the last 20 games??? I'm on Warden, thought it was just confirmation bias but no he's literally in every fucking game on the enemy team

>>532025027
don't you only have 5 seconds to place another door after the first one? seems hard to utilize

>>532025389
5 seconds is an eternity in Deadlock.

>>532026420
he could be fun
I hope they let you send the luggage cart through doors so I can block people off with it

>>532025389
Its more than that after upgrades and he also benefits from duration. Big problem atm is Ivy and [redacted] can take him across the map quickly to make across map doors

>>532026793
that's bullshit but I believe it
14 experimental updates this weekend, do you think it's close?

League has better kit designs than dota. Deadlock would be straight bussing if we had yasuo in this game.

>>532027074
July 24th. Someone did something and caused a huge pile of performance and stability issues which is what they've been trying to hammer out.

>>532027623
Why Thursday at this point? Tradition?
Btw if Doormans portal works will Holliday lasso, this would be insanely broken

>>532027623
>Someone did something
niggas really finna post whatever and people slop that shit right up

>>532030086
Don't you understand its the roleplay? Just anything to do and speculate on before the actual patch.
I dont really care about new heroes, I'd rather see some mid items like Healing Tempo, Surge of Power and Headhunter get buffs

>>532030338
>I'd rather see headhunter get buffed again then get new heroes
flatline IQ take

>>532030464
>ESL making fun of anyone else's IQ
kek

>>532030464
Yes i don't care for generic cuteshit and dota2 ports, doorman and skyrunner could be fun however. Meanwhile a good amount of items in this game are noobtraps, that should get fixed

>>532030338
>Don't you understand its the roleplay?
niggas need to step up
post something believable

>>532031515
They made Viscous black and renamed him to Niggus. Also they lowered his gun damage by 1

so are these new heroes "we are totally getting soon" going to be for the standard match or for heroes lab

>>532032471
hero labs is dead
if they thought hero labs was working they would have been testing new hero ideas using that instead of a private client

>leaver penalty
for what purpose

>>532032614
As if hero labs ever mattered desu, with how radically was Calico changed regardless of it, also how Wrecker and Fathom stayed in there for so long with no changes

>>532027558
Paradox wall is straight up an actually fun version of Wind Wall whereas Yasuo's shit is just retarded.

pocket leak

not going back to LoL and HotS is dead
dota 2 has like 150 champions and a fuck ton of items? getting sick of seeing the same 12 people playing the same 8 heroes using the same 2 builds
plus the aesthetic of dota looks really cool

>>532035861
dota2 matches much more often run up to be 50 minutes, youre stuck with retards for much longer. do not recommend

>>532035970
yeah right lmao they last about as long as turbo these days, a 50 minute game of dota is a good game like the 70 minute days of old

>>532004427
I already buy it every game but this would make me consider rushing it as a first item ngl

>>532035861
Wrong general

>>532004953
Do people really don't buy debuff remover in your mmr?

Is there a good lategame replacement for Surge of power? You can buy it on hybrid heroes in early game I guess, but it loses relevancy later on. What would be a good replacement firerate item then?

>>532039862
cant debuff remove everything + large cd

Why is the Deadlock channel of twitch the most depressing thing I've ever seen? Most games have no lifers, I get that, but holy shit man. Every day is the exact same people, doing the exact same things, without fail. That one guy who plays 8 hours of Bebop every day might be actual proof that NPCs are real.

>>532044829
i always want to know what these hyper autists who dedicate their lives to a single video game did before they found their dream game.

was mikaels normal before he decided to spend 3k hours on deadlock?

>>532044829
the game is the opposite of trendy right now so the only people playing are total nolifers

>>532044829
Bananas only during pre streaming restrictions was playing bebop for 20 hours a day

>>532044829
Everyone you see there is a reject from some other game where they failed to 'make it' and so they're using Deadlock as a potential lifeboat.
The problem is they think that it was the game or their skill that failed them and not the fact that all of them are whiny annoying little shit zoomers who cry over balance every 30 seconds of stream time thus making them insufferable.
It's worse off because most of them come from League or Overwatch which were extremely heavy handed with forcing metas or addressing pubshitters crying so when Valve doesn't immediately nerf what they've been crying about the very next patch they shit themselves and cry.

>>532048007
You can taste the desperation, that's for sure. So sad that these people think they can pre-position themselves, when the reality is they are going to be completely buried by big streamers when the game actually launches. A month or two after launch they'll probably also be outskilled by random people no ones heard about.

>>532049718
Perfectly said. The truth is that IF Deadlock does blow up the game will be swarmed by streamers far bigger and more entertaining than they are and they'll likely be left with even less viewers as Twitchfags will have someone who isn't an annoying prick to watch the game through.
And yeah give it two months after the game goes public and there will be players that make Mikaels look like a joke. Happens in every pro game ever.

>>532004427
I would LOVE nothing more then a auto aim item, To keep it balanced it would do less damage, like a flat 30% gun and spirt damage or more lossed just for having the item, but make it so you always hit your closest target.

It would not even be THAT strong thanks to how fast being anywhere near a ally or minion would fuck up the atuo aim'ers aim. That being said I can't aim for the life of me and never will so it would be great to play gun hero's once in a while

thats why a streamer shoudnt be playing for skill and rather for personality. you can get a better kd than me but you can't entertain a swath of tards like me

You know, for as much whining as you faggots do about smurfs in your pooelo and how you're actually super good at the game it's just the matchmaking that's fucking you... why aren't you all buddying up? Surely if 3 out of 6 retards are able to be the saving grace of the team, that match history is gonna start looking a little less red and your rank is gonna be a little less pale blue... right? It just seems like a natural solution, yet no one seems to take it up.

>>532051682
you sound creepy, not partying with you

>>532051682
Based on the amount of players we've lost, it's reasonable to assume that in a group of 8 friends, only one actually still wants to play this game. MOBAs are also the worst at making and maintaining friendships

Patch this week?
Surely?

>>532053968
it's possible!

>>532053968
50/50, it either happens or it doesnt

>>532053538
I'm not talking about your personal (or lack of) friend group, I'm talking about the swathes of people on this thread. You can just post party codes or something, no?

give me vampire bat yoshi...

>>531992405
>>531990996
Isn't the enemy team just as likely to get a retarded Russian on their team? Why are you pretending you aren't the exact same as anyone else bitching about shit teammates being the only reason they lose?

>>532040197
Heroic Aura maybe

any recommendations for a beam kelvin build?

>>532060314
No

Just looked it up, if I lose 14 more games Ill be in negative win/loss for my first time every.

That is the point I will stop playing deadlock.

why does lefaa look so unnatural? is he on like max sensitivity or something? his aim is so flawless but so jerky...

Shiv is fucking ridiculous right now. Getting a game and the enemy is Shiv, Seven, infernus, and Mo, makes me want to fucking shoot myself

>>532060840
Shiv loses more games than he wins in literally every bracket, get good.

>>532060840
I don't mind Infernus and Mo currently Abrams, Seven, Shiv make me want to kill myself though

>>532061590
Peak of the Shiv meta his winrate was negative you disingenuous faggot, winrates aren't always everything and every good player in the game agrees he needs a rework

>>532062093
yeah he needs a rework because he's trash.

>>532062093
If shiv is OP why can't he win? Dumbass lol

>get 'brams
>top kills, assists and damage
>was a ascendant game

Instead of constantly deferring damage, make bloodletting store 10% of damage recently taken for healing with the active, and give it cheat death's effect but without the antiheal. That way he can still get out of a situation alive once, but it doesn't feel like you're doing less damage to him and putting the passive on cooldown is immediately visually obvious.

I need to stop helping my teammates
everytime they get chased and I go help they roach out of me and I die

>>531819797
>THE E-CELEBS I WATCH TOLD ME THAT SOLO LANE BAD SO I THINK SOLO LANE BAD AND EVERYONE ELSE ALSO THINKS SOLO LANE BECAUSE THE E-CELEBS SAID SO
not an argument

i don't miss solo lanes. i don't miss techies. no, they weren't fun. i don't miss the game being decided by which duo lane ganked first. no, I don't care how long you've been whining in dlg about it.

>>532066851
>i don't miss the game being decided by which duo lane ganked first
now it's decided by which duo lane out of 3 instead of 2 ganks first
wow... big improvement....

I love infernus
all you have to do is click on someone like 3 times and they take 1500 damage and you get rage chat all game
lol

does infernus have precedence in other MOBAs? in other words, some hyper carry that demand you build both resists because building bullet resist just leaves you open to spirit afterburn?

>>532066851
You don't have a soul.

>>532067431
huskar kinda, but he's reigned in by his limited range and having zero escape potential

>>532067431
Jax, twitch in league of legends

>>532062283
aren't winrates determined by team victory/loss not individual things? shiv can go 40 - 2 and still lose, sure, but he shouldn't be going 40 - 2 consistently

>get told i never help in teamfights
>most assists in the lobby not only when i was told that but also when the game ended
wtf else you want from me

valve could introduce a character that has a map wide flashbang every 5 seconds and you sycophants would say there's nothing wrong with that

>>532073619
There's nothing wrong with that because i would main that character

>>532073132
Yes but the team with the OP hero is more likely to win, doofus so it should be reflected in his winrate

>>532071195
there's definitely a leaguebab in the designer room right?

I can only majestic leap teamwipe with bebop bombs to many times

Where are my new heroes, I'm getting BORED

I will NEVER lane with a Wraith fucking EVER.
Always a retard ape brained dumb piece of shit that runs off to grab boxes or takes 2 mins to do the tier 2 that just spawned or never fucking helps. Always 15 feet away from the fight doing chip damage like a fucking retard.

>have not one but two friends who only like to spam dynamo and go le epic stomp and never press 4 build
somebody save me

>buy counterspell
>press f
>purple shields fully up
>still get hit
which one of those drooling retards at valve thought it was a good idea to introduce this parry based item but just not fix their janky ass parry system at all

took me a while to really understand why the game feels like a boring chore (even when winning) and it's due to the hero abilities being lopsided in how much brain power it takes to execute something. Seven has remained the albatross of this game for over a year now. Initially, people handwaved Seven away as noobs not buying counters or playing badly, but even in the top ranks, people are starting to get somewhat sick of him. It's the amount of work you have to do to shut him down; that amount of work can be stressful and easy to screw up against the enemy team that's at your skill level, aware of what you want to do to shut the Seven down, and prevent you from doing that.

On Seven's end, the hero can be played on autopilot. His ult requires waiting until everyone else gets into the fight, then you press R, but otherwise it seamlessly translates to damage and teamfight control. You're probably higher soul count than the enemy team, due to how stupidly fast you farm. Because you farm quickly, you can shove lanes and force enemies trying to gank you to be close to a walker, and nearby the enemy team. And if the gank fizzles out? You can quickly farm again. This isn't to mention that Seven himself can be scary 1v1 if he upgrades his gun. He can not build around his ult, yet his ult still makes him require attention.

It's not a good position for the game to be in, where a dumb hero is also the strongest hero, and it stay this way for roughly a year

>actual shitters have been complaining about seven for a year now
holy fuck time flies by.

>>532077610
To juxtapose, look at Viscous. Some minority of players will absolutely love the stress of juggling movement, skillshots, blahblah, but there's only so many easy heroes to go around, and some people are going to be stuck with the equivalent of Meepo. Maybe as more heroes are added, the problem will be lessened, but it still exists. About half of the cast requires timing and hand eye coordination just to bring value out of their hero, and this is before you start asking if their macro game is good. On that, a lot of these heroes have weaker macro games compared to Seven, Infernus, etc

Grey Talon has been stuck eating shit for a while now, and he has little going for him in what he can actually do. He can ult from across the map giving him presence, but besides that, not much. Spamming charge shot is only good if you're already winning, it doesn't let you claw out of a bad match. Can't farm with it too fast, either. And that's kind of the crux of the issue; about half of the roster has meh abilities that can't do that much, and/or abilities that require fluency in poking a keyboard just to squeeze what potential value they can. The game is a lot of fun, but it's been a year, and I personally feel that hero ability reworks should have been the focus, not balance, not lanes, not the item shop.

>reworked the item shop
some heroes are hard to pilot, and still suck even if you figure them out. Adding weighted shots won't make McGinnis turret spam fun to deal with, etc
>3 lanes instead of 4
Not going to make a feasible difference in pubs, even high level pubs, besides no more 1v1 laning
>mid boss rejuv timing tweaks, soul urn tweaks, vending machines, -5% souls on boxes

The focus on balance forgets that people will play an atrociously balanced mess, if the game is fun. Making more of the cast fun to play as, or against, I think should take priority over making sure winrates don't exceed 53%

>>532079051
A short list of annoying or lackluster gameplay:

>Grey Talon/Vindicta float feels like walking through mud, but mid air. Let people move around and actually fly, it's fun
>More heroes should have special stamina mechanics, such as Ivy being able to double jump with her wings flapping
>spells found universally annoying by the playerbase, e.g. Geist bomb, should probably be reworked. Not nerfed, reworked. It's an explosive projectile, you have a myriad of other games that made them fun to play against and use.
>Laning without the soul orbs (they disappear way too fast and the denier has a built in lag mechanic) is boring if the deathmatching itself isn't fun
>There is little weapon variety due to heroes needing to be able to deny soul orbs, but now that mechanic is largely gone, so add fun weapons
>Soul urn reward being purely economic means it can wildly swing the matches too much, and doesn't truly add "map consequence" other than the winning team winning harder in stat scaling
>The urn delivery location bouncing around the map to curtail how urn can swing soul/gold difference, while technically works, can make the urn never worth bothering with. Even teams? Running the urn is starting a teamfight, but the urn carrier has a wallhack against him, usually not worth it
>Ahead? The urn delivery spot is extremely risky, not worth running
>Behind? Probably worth running
>TOO ahead? Then the urn is a dunk that forces the game to end even sooner by exasperating soul/gold difference
>TOO behind? Urn makes you huddle up in your base with nothing to do, or else you take a losing teamfight just for them to get urn anyway

These are the things that are probably making people stay away from the game, imo. When you hit play, it's a meh shooter experience, a meh macro MOBA game, and some heroes have retard kits that are amazing, whilst others require juggling 4 balls at once to be kinda sort of useful

>pre-alpha playtest but we're not going to change anything about the core game and no we are not going to fix broken systems like melee/parry, matchmaking, netcode etc.
what is the point of the playtest? all the balancing meta shit could be done post-release like literally every other multiplayer game ever. they aren't even testing new heroes on this version of the playtest. again, what is the point?

>>532079051
>>532080412
>people are staying away from the game because vindicta and grey talon are weak

HAHAHAHAHAHA

OH LAWD

Spiritual Overflow is good on kelvin

>what if we nerfed items to be totally useless like fartytude and shartslinger
>wtf why did everyone stop buying them?
and here I thought valve would have the creme de la creme of developers

>>532083771
i mean yeah if your roster is boring, no one wants to play the game.

>>532081973
To keep the russians busy

>>532093751
Page 10 bumptroon, you're still around huh

99% of current kits being boring to play is a big reason behind the player drop. Everything just feels so low effort and/or low impact to use since every other damage ability is point and click or a very generous "skill"shot. There's nothing in the way of a yasuo in this game, everyone is just a ball of stats + vessel for applying the latest broken fotm item

>>532093992
Why is it always League fags.

>>532093992
There is no Yasuo in other third person shooters

>>532093992
>99% of current kits being boring to play
That's like, your opinion

valve needs to add a hero like yone to deadlock

>>532093992
this just isn't true, the biggest reason behind the player drop is most people dont want to beta test an unfinished game getting massive meta shifts every two weeks.

>>532093992

Deadlock's movement alone already MOGS every one of its contemporaries except maybe Titanfall 2 and GunZ.

>>532097798
schmoovement alone isn't gonna cut it sadly. otherwise quake and titanfall both would be the most popular games out there right now

>>532093992
yeah pretty much
where's my Cho'Gall? where's my three vikings? where's my Abathur? don't get me wrong there ARE fun characters in the game like Lash or Viscous but a lot of them aren't really bringing anything new to the table of FPS shooters. it's been said time and again but it really is kinda insane that Marvel Rivals as shit as that game is has more unique ideas for kits than this game does.

>>532097167
this hasn't been the case in over half a year now

>>532098125

True I'm just saying he seems to want something as mechanically-intensive as Yasuo when the high level lovement of this game goes past Yasuo too.
Sad part is you're not required to actually be that good at schmovement.

>>532098312
they all left over a half year ago lilbro

>>532098401
if they already got access to the beta there's quite literally nothing stopping them from coming back
them not doing so kinda goes to show that the problem wasn't the constant updates as that retard keeps saying

>>532099056
wrong

>>532099056

A group of my friends have access to it and they're still not coming back because they're waiting for it to actually be done bro.

TWO DAYS

>>532093992
This is true. The heroes are incredibly boring and anyone that says otherwise is delusional. I've never played a game where I open the hero tab and have no desire to play any of them

>>532099612
hmm maybe because the game is unfinished

Praying Yamato redesign is part of the new update

>>532099963
they're not gonna rework the heroes that aren't on hero labs/private build

>>532099445
damn didn't know you were friends with 200k people my bad g

>jetpack hero
>rocket jump hero
>actual melee hero
>artillery hero
>invoker hero that uses a revolver
>commander (top down) rts hero
>larger than normal statue of liberty hero
>smaller than normal rat hero

Think about it deadtards

>>532101419
>they're not gonna rework the heroes that aren't on hero labs/private build
>he doesnt know
lmaoooooooo

>>532101464
too sovlful for deadlock
you'll get shittier versions of characters from other games like doorman and sinclair and you'll like it or you'll get fucking AOE slop heroes like vampirebat again

not even gonna grace the retard with the copium overdose with a (you) now

>>532099612
if you dont find one single hero to be fun then why play the game? lol

>>532101464
Rutger still hasnt been reused...

>15,000 player peak 1 week ago
>10,000 player peak this week
we lost a third of our remaining playerbase in one week, lmao

>>532102375
Because the gameplay is fun. The heroes literally contribute 0 to the fun, the game is carried by everything else

>>532102628
i just want the game to go on open beta already so i can finally watch all the retards slowly realize that the game won't get it's playerbase back

>secret club build had 10+ updates in two days

Soon????

>>532102628
next week we will have 4k players

Open beta?

Is this real?
Some creeps randomly going silver/gray?

Apparently it's part of a third diamond faction that was previously mentioned in the Lady Geist VN.
Are we legit getting a 3v3v3/4v4v4 mode?

>>532105703
The retards at valve can barely handle balancing around one map which is why they killed the 4 lane map instead of working on both. So to answer your question, lol lmao

>>532106067

it would just be overthrow you retard

>>532106337
Then go play overthrow, retard

>>532106424

it just gives them a silly lore reason for game modes with more than two teams

do you think the patron will actually grant wishes?

>>532105703
>a third diamond faction that was previously mentioned in the Lady Geist VN
source?

>>532106807

>>532106732
Already confirmed by Geist VN

>>532102727
the gameplay is necessitated by the heroes ergo the heroes are fun

>>532102628
Longest time, most loyal, alpha-beta tester, Deadlocker, almost Valve employee. I think we (Deadlock community) should give up at this point, its clear this game is just a passion project/proof of concept and isnt getting anymore updates (unlike Marvel Rivals, Overwatch, Valorant etc.) and we should strive to play something actually fun like Marvel Rivals, Overwatch, Valorant.

>>532107183
The game would lose nothing if everyone became the same character with no abilities. It would honestly improve the game if it was like this

>>532107461
Without abilities, time-to-kill will increase 10 folds.

>>532107461
this would be sovlless drivel

>>532107461
>It would honestly improve the game if it was like this
This isn't even bait anymore, this is straight up mental retardation, everything you said prior has no value if thats your reasoning.
>>532106904
Then I wonder how often do patrons actually show up. Dynamo says every 50 years, but Geist summons the Patron in her VN and then ingame voicelines claim you can do it almost instantly again

>>532108096
The Geist VN patron might be the beginning of the ritual where they initially summon the patron but still need to have the eclipse and deal with the rival patron to complete the ritual in its entirety with the main event coming as the eclipse approaches (when we play the game), Abrams and Geists' voicelines at the start of the match imply as much because he tells her to be careful with the wording with what she wishes for this time

>>532093992
Everything about this was based until mentioning League, people here still seethe at the idea of abilities being more unique or proper skillshots despite a good chunk of the abilities in the game just being
>Lock on ability
>AoE grenade
>Passive that just does more damage the more you hold left click on someone
Same people bitch and moan at the idea of spirit heroes ever being weak but if the heroes in this game actually had more unique kits than that could be achieved reasonably instead right now it's just low skill expression cancer and it feels like the devs have just given up. None of it is fun and 80% of interactions are just a stat check at the end of an obnoxious hitbox or just pressing 2-3 buttons next to someone.

>>532110284
plenty of heroes have skillshots and many are unique ie sinclair / holiday, wtf are you brain damaged retards babbling about?

>>532110506
In fact most spells in this game aren't lock-ons. I don't know why there are people here that think most are

>>532110506
>>532111291
Did you read the post? I didn't say every hero was like that, Holliday has a decent kit Sinclair is kind of a joke to mention in defense of interesting or high skill expression hero design though considering his kit is just a
>Lock on vexing bolt (yes it does have locking on built in you can test this)
>AoE grenade bunny
>Ability that just doubles his shots or acts as TP
>Ult that... Copies another ult

>>532111471
>>Ult that... Copies another ult
Literally the most versatile spell in the game as a result allowing for skill expression depending on what other heroes you are playing against???

>>532111471
youre so clueless lol

Time for your daily slice... of Breadlock!

>>532114435
I love you, Breadlock-san

>>532109653
The biggest takeaway from the summoning in VN is that Geist pretty much double crossed Abrams with her wish and fucked over herself in the process, while Abrams straight up wasted his and is very salty about this whole ordeal, since now he and Geist should stay together until a better option is found. 1 braincell team right there

Matchmaking is ass, I think they should recalibrate the ranks again because no way these people are ritualist rank. They play like retards, I keep seeing them solo rush into 4 people and then die or farm the whole game and do nothing.

>>532111471
you can make any kit look boring if you describe it like a reductive nigger

>>532120870
Both of those still happen in Eternus.

the matchmaking in this game isn't real

>>531743086 (OP)
thinking about it it's kinda fucking insane that the craziest character deadlock currently has kitwise is fucking vyper just because of her passive
how fucking boring does the game's cast has to be for the wackiest ability to be "slide more"?

>>532126607
how could vyper be considered the craziest character when viscous exists

>>532111537
you'd have a point if you were able to held it like Rubick's but Sinclair's is quite literally just a "OH SHIT OH FUCK QUICK USE IT ON WHOEVER'S CLOSEST DURING TEAMFIGHT" button. alternatively a "fuck lash" button.

Are they gonna change the main menu/logo this week with the hero update?
Open beta soon

>>532126607
>thinking about it it's kinda fucking insane that the craziest character deadlock currently has kitwise is fucking vyper
i think it's lash though
very aerial character but instead of staying up there and shooting like a fag he uses comes down like a meteor, don't know of any other character that works like this in other games and it's a really flashy and satisfying playstyle

>>532126817
>aoe grenade
>punch (actually a very good ability)
>mei's ice block
>ult that makes you into homer from that one level in the simpsons game
i like the gooboy and he IS unique amongst the cast but i'm not sure if any of his abilities could be considered gamebreaking like vyper's slide conceptually

>>532127032
lash was my second option desu and he is cool no complaints here

we're at base roster, why are we expecting genre redefining meme shit this soon?

>>532132042
we didn't need 3 heroes with gun buffing abilities, CC and some lame movement ability

>>532132463
yes we did, this is base roster with the basic gun characters. all the meme shit you're pissing for comes after we get the basic characters for the basic roles

do you still have that reddit thread made by some ruskie writing 40 paragraphs of seethe about deadlock matchmaking and balance issues? It was a funny read. It was a link in the old(dot)reddit url format

>>532134079
nevermind I already got it. https://old.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1jxf10v/jamside_the_most_unbiased_opinion_on_deadlock_2025/
I always find something the moment I ask for help

>>532132636
No he is right, rework m1 niggers and delete Vind

>>532134079
Why do you need reddit MM whining when you can just scroll up and see it going on right here, in this general, all day every day?

>>532134601
because 4chan has a 2000 character limit and true schizophrenia only happens past that length

>>532134302
rework what? yes, they are basic gun characters...because they're the basic gun characters.

>>532134215
>it's a haze player crying

kek

>>532099056
TRVKE

what are his goals?

>>532134747
How are Wraith, Haze, Warden, Infernus fundamentally different? A movement ability, a CC, an attack enhancement + ult. I would add Vyper to the list too if I'm feeling extra cynical, but she at least puts a new spin on the existing game mechanic.
>>532134673
Nevermind I just scrolled through it, holy shit thats a reactor 4 level meltdown. Some comments are hilarious too. Can't wait for people here to defend him

Valve needs to add their own version of yordles to this game.

>>532137043
warden - initiating ult, usually requires good timing. single target lockdown/makes them gtfo or eat shit.

infernus - muh DPS hypercarry, mixed weapon/spirit damage, strong initating ult, stupid dash more or less does everything

wraith - best gtfo ability in the game, single target lockdown ult, best rat/farmer in the game

haze - goes invis, snowballs hard, has the best pick potential out of the rest, really oppressive if she's good and ult can shutdown games

again, they are basic...because they are the basic gun characters in the base roster. new characters we're getting are just filling out the basic archetypes, frank is a new diving tank, vampirebat is a QOP spirit burster, slork is another flavor of assassin, etc

>>532134215
>Vyper is a girl? What the hell is wrong with you? Just why blyat?
kek

I have some good news about the patch this week

>>532139207
SEX update???

>>532139207
Its delayed again?
>>532138816
Gay furry rusnigger pls understand.
The absolute best part is him writing a novel on how haze is underpowered compared to GT, then complaining that the game gets balance patches at all.

but really, why are there so many furries in this game and why do they all stink at the game?

>>532140790
TF2 tourists

>>532139259
>>532140371

>>532141039
my reaction to the lane removal

>>532141039
there's been enough remodels leaked and it's been long enough that if they don't have new models for every hero I'm going to be disappointed
unless they bring all 10 heroes from the leak in

>>532142514
it's not 1.0, so no point in having expectations for the entire cast tho

>>532142771
if I kept my expectations realistic what would I complain about?

>>532140790
Because this game got an official discord that the devs spend more time in than the actual forums.

>>532134215
>Hero design made by a retard or a necrophile
This is the guy complaining about lack of cuteshit and animefaggotry in the game btw
>I personally have a feeling that some mod or any other dude with acess is just sitting on my account and queing up the most braindamaged individuals possible or if this is impossible he is just giving me haze
This guy lmao

>>532143530
DPS players are always this weird flavor of malignant narcissists

>>532134215
Everything this guy has said has been a complete and total factnvke.

>get shit laner that does nothing but still manages to die and miss lasthits
>game over
great

>>532141039
Just imagine what a broken mess the new heroes are bound to be, oh I can't wait

>>532143883
Was that me? i had a bad lane, sorry for that.

>>532143950
I'm fully expecting vampirebat to be busted and her players to bitch and moan at every nerf for the next decade

meanwhile, us doorchads will remain humble doormen

>>532144158
My expectations are diametrically opposite here. Vampirebat will end up as a feast or famine type, buckbroken by your average M1 scrub past min 20, while Doorman would end up being a Morphling 2.0 when it comes to bugs and broken game mechanics. I just want to see whats going to happen once Sinclair steals his portal and what kind of hilarity ensues.

>>532144387
>Doorman would end up being a Morphling 2.0 when it comes to bugs and broken game mechanics

based, I've grown more and more excited for him since his design leak

>>532143014
all the new ivy spammers

>>532144548
Well we are definitely getting a Frank, thats for sure, Doorman and Vampirebat probs? Who else can be added realistically speaking, Raven, Skyrunner, Wrecker?

People are saying patch tonight.

>>532144749
hoping mostly for frank and slork, doorman and the drifter would be amazing, but would likely be end of year. probably raven and wrecker.

>>532144783
Show me these people, I want to bully them for spreading misinformation on my internet

>>532144783
aren't patches usually thursday/tuesday

>>532144783
You think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?

a year in, my number 1 favorite addition was walljumps, the game wouldn't feel right without them.

>>532144783
Unless the devs finalize it on their inhouse servers without updating the experimental one with something finalized, which they haven't for some time, it wont be out today.

>>532144836
We got nothing on Drifter, just a passive, a portrait and a dream. Slork has been in the labs forever, I wonder if he is ever going to be released. I don't feel like any of them are coming soon. Frank is all but 100% confirmed

>>532144964
Yeah it's not happening today, it's probably on Thursday

>>532145182
Walljumps killed the game's movement.

valve needs to add gragas to this game. bomba.

>>532102628
this is actually not a problem and if you say otherwise you are poop rank. everything is fine. in fact its a good thing! patch this week btw

is this the longest weve been without a proper patch? something like 70 days?

This game is a litmus test for retardation

If you actually think Valve will do anything different this time (do updates on the game without going radio silent for months, add an anti-cheat, fix the netcode, region lock 3rd worlders chinks and ziggers, have an actual matchmaking system that isn't just W/L) then you're a retard

>>532146886
>have an actual matchmaking system that isn't just W/L
Nah, this one works by your winrate. You need to have 55%+ WR to climb, otherwise you will stay in your rank or derank if your wr% gets lower.

>>532146879
yeah as of today
patch soon

>>532146879
Winter break felt horrible due and there was a lot of time between map and shop update tbf

>>532146879
wait has it really been that long ago? it still feels like it was just a month ago at most to me

>>532148262
Shop rework was roughly 70 days ago, there were like 4 minor gameplay patches in between

>>532148405
damn that's crazy

I cant remember how csgo did rank resets with operations and I don't play dota, assuming they do seasonal ladder resets how will it work?

>>532146879
So it appears Valve really believe that small patches instead of huge overhauls are the problem. Shop upd brought some people back to check it out for sure, but then they left shortly afterwards. Lets see how this one plays out.

>>532146101
holliday

>>532148917
>but then they left shortly afterwards
actually i didn't
i stopped playing around october/november last year and came back for the item update and kept playing since

>>532093992
>all these cope replies

touched a nerve, anon. How is it not outright obvious the abilities hitting you automatically makes the game suck ass? Because if people were forced to Aim/DM, a lot of macro-only players would drop in rank

>>532149535
dash and slide lil noob

>You can just dash away from abilities that automatically hit and take away movement

low quality replies will receive no (you)'s

>>532150472
>doesn't know how to direct reply
>doesn't know how to dash and slide

return to reddit

>>532150169
trvke, pooelos will never comprehend that its their positioning that leads to their rape and them to scree about shivs ult being op

>>532144783
Its going to be tomorrow because a patch for another game i play also comes out tomorrow and due to that being bad timing for me specifically that's when they'll release it

>>532149112
Same for me ironically enough.

>>532150169
NTA, but irrelevant vs many abilities. Get perfect dash timing all you want, left, right, backwards, doesn't matter, that huge ass Yamato Power Slash WILL hit you no matter how far away you are

>>532151227
depends on balancing, dash and slide is very much useful vs talon skillshot and now geists since they increased the arm time.

it's less about "noooo movement is useless", it's more about a conscious decision in balancing to make it easier to dodge

>>532147406
wow
so much innovation
retards

>>532093992
I will take you serious if you post your statlock rank, otherwise I assume you started playing mobas last week

i swear to god vindicta stake just rolls you back to the point where you were 3 seconds ago
incredible

It should apply to everyone actually, only complaints acceptable in this thread are if you link what rank you're at and you will not be hounded if you're complimenting or bringing positivity

>>532156256
just go to reddit already

>>532156180
it does, in a way
i think the range of the stake and the range of the effect don't always line-up, so it'll be like for example 10m radius but the stake lets you move only 7m radius so if it hits you at the edge of the 10m radius effect zone you instantly get yanked to the 7m stake limit

>>532156404
reddit is worse because not only are they equally whiney as you faggots they actually think they have the solution and make entire essays about it and probably get something implemented as a result. you retards just whine that the game is DOA because you're hardstuck alchemist ii and can't counter build

>>532157109
>only approved authorities like my favorite streamers are allowed to write essays about dumb shit in the game

midwit take

>>532132042
base roster dota 2 had fucking tinker on it
it's not 2016 anymore we've come a long way in hero shooter kits

>>532157551
you missed the entire point, you guys just shit in your hands and throw it everywhere. reddit shits in their hand and shows the world. regardless, why the fuck would I let knuckle draggers stuck in the same rank as 3rd worlders dictate the balancing of the game?

>>532157109
reddit would welcome you with open arms for being as delusional about the game's future as you currently are lil bro

>>532157951
Dota 2 was a port of a game that was in development for almost a decade already

>>532158639
you are claiming a game that is in a closed invite only pre-alpha with 0 marketing is somehow dead on arrival just because the last time it had peak attention on it the map looked like shit, had 4 lanes, and the item shop was placeholders

>>532158949
that doesn't stop deadlock from lifting kits wholesale from it and other games of the same genre yet all they seem to be interested on is basic bitch ones like WK and QOP or VERY dumbed down takes like Rubick or even fucking Loki

>>532158949
deadlock has been in development for 7 years now...

>>532157951
tinker was only crazy because of actives refresh anyway, valve has no reason to add cuhhhrazy characters this early in the roster, its not a full release, it's barely going into open beta

>>532159526
200k at the tippy top
scrapping by at 10k now at peak hours
90% playerbase lose isn't normal for a healthy, non dead game

>BUT MUH MAP, MUH LANES, MUH ITEMS
every single one of these felt better before

>>532158532
As if valve would choose one anonymous shithole over another when they have a dedicated tranny reservation with nolifers giving the same ''feedback''

>>532159887
It's a pre-test alpha, not a live service. A drop doesn't mean anything, at all. Save this bullshit for when it goes open-beta.
>every single one of these felt better before
It's definitely why the biggest complaint is the art direction and not specific characters or matchmaking
>>532160159
Yes which is why you take over the forums with your complaints, not /vg/

>>532159754
you might not like this fact but the CUHHHRAZY characters are literally what sells your game in today's market. People see Strange's portal and think "WOAH THAT'S COOL I WANNA TRY THAT MICKEY MOUSE SHIT". You think anyone's gonna do the same the moment Doorman pops up and his portals don't show what's on the other side in real time, don't allow bullets to go through, or even worse, has a fucking cast time to use like Underlord's?

>>532160260
I post my suggestions on the forum already. Noone reads them, I'll admit

>>532160365
>what sells your game in today's market.


there's nothing to sell, the game's not out yet. there's no monetization structure in place, we don't even know what the real map will look like, if the jungles will be re-worked, if new mechanics might be added, and so on

>>532160260
>It's a pre-test alpha, not a live service.
did you just wake up from a coma? it's not 2010 anymore, beta, alpha, even early access means fuckall to the market now. people don't give a shit about that; and you can thank valve for fostering this enviroment. I'll be here to tell you I fucking told you so once open beta hits and nothing has changed just as I was here to tell you the game would end up where we are right now 10 months ago.

>>532160365
we already know doorman's doors won't have cast time to use, and they're on a regular ability cooldown instead of being a gimmick you can use once per match

>>532160527
>it's not a product bro valve doesn't have to care
yeah sure that's why they're still making underlords or artifact lmfao get fucking real for a second. passion dried up real fucking quick at valve when a product of theirs just ain't giving results. remember when they were supposed to release 3 more VR games alongside alyx? they sure as shit seemed "passionate" back then too.

>>532159754
Know what, I agree with that anon. You can make the game around flashier concepts even if it means updating/reworking old heroes. We've seen this happening in Dota2 where things which were literally in Dota IMBA became the norm, I think the game won't hurt from being accelerated into post-powercreep stage while being raw and moldable to allow for such drastic changes.

>>532160726
strange's portal is shit because netease can't balance or code for shit
valve has the potential to do better but retards like you will literally give them a free pass to slack off and they WILL take it every single time. Doorman's portal could be tactical use on the fly like Chell's but since they're not actually in real time they're just a fucking symmetra teleport instead. do YOU think her kit is exciting to use?

>>532161035
>accelerate into power creep phase

I think it would end up hurting the game if they have no choice but to go back and rework characters when they're trying to put out a full base roster.

>>532161090
>just a fucking symmetra teleport instead
Never played OW, why is this bad and how does it work? How would you fix this shit then?

>>532161168
I think the game population isn't numerous enough nor do we have dedicated old farts since the IP is too new to worry about people leaving due to being afraid of change. Most have left already, all we have are autists and addicts like me, who like the general feel of the gameplay and fluff. Oh and a secreter playtest exists so the testing part won't be hurt anyway.
Whats the worst part that can happen? Newbies won't pickup the new harder game? Ridiculous. Old guard complaining the game is no longer the one they originally saw and felt in love with, like their ex? Please.

>>532161272
it's bad because it's conceptually boring. Symmetra's teleport used to be her ultimate; when you used it, you got a teleport that had one entry on spawn and another one wherever she placed it. This was removed because it was "too situational" (meaning the devs couldn't balance her around it for shit). Instead they gave her a teleport that she can pop down and go across a small distance instead on a timer.
What was a powerful and cool concept got streamlined and dumbed down into a "use to go around map geometry" instead, no better than a dash. The ONLY time it shines is in competitive play (and by that i mean OWL because in pubs you'll never get teams that coordinated) where you'd see her being picked to go over one specific spot. And I guarantee you the rest of her it is more interesting than Doorman's will be with her turrets and unique gun. What's he gonna have left?

To put it down better. Symmetra's been around for over ten years now. Engineer for way longer than that. She was a niche pick back then and she still is now. Having the portal act in real time is an unique take on what is now and old concept, and has only really been attempted to do so in Rivals. Instead of trying to ape this and do something innovative for once, they're retreading the same ground the industry has gone through for over a decade now.

>>532161895
>I think the game population isn't numerous enough

it's not out yet, it's a closed beta. for the hundredth time. why worry about it when it isn't out yet? there will be an uptick in players on official release.

>autists like me

you're the kind of autist that just doesn't like to be wrong.

>>532162021
>it's not out yet, it's a closed beta. for the hundredth time. why worry about it when it isn't out yet? there will be an uptick in players on official release.
reckless optimism is what ultimately made the devs of shartifact not worry about their game and you can see where that lead them but hey please. by all means. keep digging your own grave
>here will be an uptick in players on official release.
it's like you don't understand why people left in the first place

>>532161896
So I looked her skills up, yeah I see what you mean. She is very boring outside of the portals, literally McGinnis and that bitch is basic af

Doubled the hero roster lol

>>532162220
if deadlock's developers were recklessly optimistic we would have seen a rushed open beta on a 4 lane map like how underlords was shat out a week after leaking

>>532162220
artifact died because richard garfield left

>>532162348
that's what i'm saying. now look at how the other characters in deadlock are; most of them have one ability that stands out (some not even that) and the rest a lot of the time feels kinda fillerish at best. what do you think doorman is gonna be like, specially considering how hard the portal is gonna be to balance around, and how the devs seem adamant against any sort of unique guns?

>>532162452
>we would have seen a rushed open beta on a 4 lane map like how underlords was shat out a week after leaking
we literally did
you can pretend it's still a closed beta all you like but you don't get 200k people trying it out out of nowhere buddy
>>532162529
artifact died because it was miserable to play and had a horrible monetization system
plus nobody gives a fuck about dota as an ip

>>532162425
rest in peace:
>the boss
>thumper
>tokamak
hope they come back:
>cadence
>rutger
>gunslinger

>>532162021
Okay I get it, you mistook me for one of the resident doomers, which isnt entirely correct since I'm having fun with the game as is. Just don't autocomplete my posts in your mind.
What I meant is that current playerbase is too volatile and too low to worry about, so you can implement literally anything and just forget about the health of the game or game balance or whatever, there will be balance patches anyway.
>>532162220
>reckless optimism is what ultimately made the devs of shartifact not worry about their game
This isnt even close to reality, artifact was reworked and got updated for some time, corrections were made but didn't work out in the end.

>>532162425
cadence memed back into the game for real?

I would take people whining about underlords and artifact more seriously if they weren't just 3rd worlders massively butthurt because they invested into the economy

>>532163017
>artifact was reworked and got updated for some time
after it was released and it bombed
if you were around back when they had a close beta it was all praises and optimisim. or are you not gonna pretend you had retards like slacks and mcvicker singing the game's praises and saying it's the best thing since sliced bread?

>>532163073
i have literally never played any of them once because i don't give a fuck about autobattlers or card games

>>532162835
>we literally did
they don't have a website, they haven't charged money for it, the steam page doesn't even say anything about the game
the verge got blacklisted for talking about it back in august, before the streisand effect made trying to keep it truly closed impossible

>>532162665
My point too. Deadlock needs a Dota IMBA-like total convertion. We need to get into the wacky phase again, just for the fun of it.

>>532163201
if you didn't play, why do you bring them up to doom? they were both side projects for the DOTA IP, people lost interest. what does this have to do with deadlock? we have icefrog/yoshi chugging away on the game for the past year, it's obviously not in danger of randomly dropping.

>>532163208
>bro you know what brings people to your game in the mid 20's? A WEBSITE!!
jesus h christ anon you can't possibly be serious

>the verge got blacklisted for talking about it back in august
this is literally better publicity to catch the public's eye than any of the things you mentioned

>>532163201
I was around back then and people were booing it right at the TI presentation. People were sceptical even on reddit and that place is full of consoomers. Saying Artifact was unanimously praised or that people were optimistic about it is history revision.

>>532163373
because i've been playing valve's game my entire fucking life and i know how their song and dance goes. i find it unbelievable that you somehow don't even when given not one not two but several examples of them pulling this shit over and over
passion does not matter for valve if the game is pulling numbers. they can afford not to give a shit and if something proves too hard (like gaining an audience) they WILL drop the shit out of a project in no time at all.

>>532163665
>several examples of them pulling this shit over and over

two games you apparently didn't play, but get emotional about.

>>532163554
that's the audience reaction, i'm talking about the people actually trying the game. case in point; in that very same TI you had the hosts hyping the fuck out of it for no reason at all. people thought it was gonna be HL3 for fuck's sake.

deadlock's situation isn't that different. i'd say most people just think the game is already dead or a fucking moba and ergo complete dogshit from the get-go. but the people that stuck around by either enjoying a part of the game (us) or trying to make a profit and build a brand or career (streamers, people in close contact with valve) are all trying to put out fires everywhere and pretending everything's fine and the game will do great once open beta releases
it won't. just watch

>>532163440
the website point wasn't random
they put together a teaser website for underlords in early july after it leaked in late june
deadlock has had nothing like that, valve intentionally barely acknowledges that it exists

>>532164000
HL2 alyx (the mod support and its sequel)
the two VR games that they were supposedly gonna release after alyx
the steam controller
TF2 post jungle inferno
the TF2 comic if you wanna be pedantic about it
crownfall was delayed by a fucking year for god's sake

>>532164294
all side stuff/expansion content, not a new icefrog game or major MP non-auto chess/card game release. if you're really sure deadlock is gonna die why are you posting here?

>>532151227
>see enemy Yamato
>play around cover
>see her wind up a Power Slash
>duck into cover
>no damage taken
sinple really

>>532164294
they mentioned in the final hours of half life alyx that the 2 other VR games were shelved mid-development in order to make alyx a full campaign instead of a spinoff

>>532164041
nigga you really fucking believe people tried blunderlords because of a website? no retard they tried it because it was a new valve game and autobattlers were booming at the time (or rather already fading out by the time it came out)
most people don't even use websites outside of their designated social media nowadays

>>532164412
>HL3
>2 VR projects
>hardware stuff when half the fucking company was working on hardware
>side projects

>crownfall
>non icefrog related when it gave use the perk shit

>deadlock
>major IP

what sort of fucking retard are you?
>if you're really sure deadlock is gonna die why are you posting here?
like fucking clockwork. maybe reddit's more your speed

>>532164697
>you're the fucking retard not me, the chad doomposter!

no, you're a retard. why are you still here if it's gonna die? get a life.

>>532164000
NTA but one is a happenstance, two is systemic. I'd say the anon is somewhat justified in fearing the third.
I disagree on devs dropping the game any time soon. They didn't after changing entire genre and map layout on a project which is 7 years old and wasn't even released, this is way above ''devs will stop caring'' point.

>>532164623
that still means they dropped them seeing as they never picked them back up. they weren't supposed to be HL related.
if you want another example there's also L4D3 and the many attempts Valve has had of trying to make a top down player system work in a non topdown game (both in and outside of VR). I didn't mention it in that post because it wasn't actually publc but seeing as deadlock being a "closed alpha that was never supposed to leak" is used so much as an argument here I might as well add it to the pile.

valve drops shit all the fucking time. it's completely idiotic to pretend they don't or won't because it's a "passion project". do you people genuinely believe HL3 wasn't?
>>532164803
takes one to know one

>>532165054
total doomposter destruction, get bent tard

>>532164895
I'm not saying they'll drop it soon mind you. I'm fairly certain it'll make it to launch. But they'll VERY quickly lose interest once they see the game isn't doing dota or cs numbers. if it isn't market leading, valve doesn't want it.

>>532165108
i'm sure yoshi will bless you with an update any day now, retardkun

>>532165236
cooldown reduction WILL be lowered by 1%

the Dynamo VN voice is so much better than the in game one

>>532141039
i raffed

>>532165869
>>532165869
>>532165869
>>532165869

deadlock update leak (real)