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>>531815043 (OP)I want to rape this doll
Is Forest completely dead?
>next set is omens
Here's your new leaders bro
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OUR HERO
How can I stall runeniggers as dragon aggro?
Alright f2p bros serious discussion time
I know there was a meme going around in the beginning about how you should pull on the same banner over and over to maximize vials, and people were saying "haha bricked account" and all that. However, now that we have a banner with only 77 cards, could that really be the solution?
Let's say you need 20k or so vials every set to update your deck, anyone think it's better to spend rupees on this banner for the foreseeable future?
Leader tickets are not a factor they are never happening for a fella like me...
>>531815193This is gambling.
Switch back to storm haven
>>531815303the moment you wanna play more than 1 craft that stop being worth anon
>>531815303The number of legendaries is not significantly lesser.
This is only a valid option for big spenders ironically.
>>531815303As a f2p I'll be saving my rupees and park keys in the day one of the expansion for the next expansion, and only use them in the next. I did this same strategy with sv1.
>>531815183Give it a week. Roach still kills Rune dead and ward Haven flopped like a dead fish. I predict Roach winstreaks will start coming in soon.
Forest's first Master Diamond 10+ win deck (10 wins)
https://x.com/kumada_takuya/status/1946165796759359690/photo/2
>Even as an Elf, I could finish a match in 5 minutes, and before I knew it, I had won 10 matches in a row with this deck.
>A deck built around Odin and Amatsu, with a concept prioritizing face damage and board development.
>Iโve never once beaten a Bishop, but itโs extremely advantageous against Dragon, Nightmare, Elf, and Witch.
>>531815190I hope we get Raio instead of the shadow dude
ideally Velnareik but
>>531815193I expect him to drop to topaz tomorrow
>>531815482>Iโve never once beaten a Bishop, but itโs extremely advantageous against Dragon, Nightmare, Elf, and Witch.Yeah that sounds about right.
>>531815193Is the deck actually good?
If i get the dragon premade deck i would get the last copy of fennie and salamander there
I don't have garyu so this would be nice to try since i can make it with 0 vials cost
>>531815482>it's a roach deckOf fucking course.
wish I got more of ginsetsu and yuzuki. wish I didn't waste my vials on other shit bros...
>>531815558>its the only viable forest archetypeNo shit
>>531815482Imagine that the core card of your deck is bald and you still decide that an emblem that generates a fairy every turn is too shit to bother with...
>>531815482>Iโve never once beaten a Bishoplmao
>No Garden's Allure/svg/ told me its broken
Is the last mission bugged?
Ward haven players, please keep playing the deckโฆ we canโt let roachniggers take over againโฆ
>>531815193Post the fucking twitter link
>>531815482>Never once beaten a bishopIf it wasn't obvious to anyone that forest has no card that can deal with aether lol
>>531815558It's not a roach deck it's a deck that has roach the same way that abyss uses dark general. You are playing roaches for 5 damage not sitting on cards until you can deal 20 in one turn.
>>531815442Saving park keys is questionable since the card pool is only going to get bigger.
>>531815558It's only a roach deck as much as adding Albert to a sword deck makes it an Albert deck. He's running none of the roach synergies. There are probably even some storm cards from other classes he'd run over roach if he could.
>>531815731back to storm and climbing finally
>>531815745https://x.com/pagne275/status/1946257623906721902/photo/2
>>531815716Yes, the JP Twitter acknowledged it a while back and said they're working on it. There's an apolopack in your crate for it.
>>531815790The cardpool is already so big that you are basically only saving them to get extra new packs.
>>531815482Wow no Garden's Allure and no Godwood Staff?
Is this the Midrange Forest deck with roach finisher that I was told about?
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This deck is so stupid. You either win by turn 5, 6 or you can just forfeit
(he quit after this)
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Damn, wasn't expecting triple
How can anyone hate Lovesign?
Dude's is exuding hopecore just from the few lines we got from him
His story is gonna be great
>>531815907No Cairn or Bayle or Olivia either. Its basically board control into a weak roach killer, rather than OTK
>>531815043 (OP)Puppets feel so strong right now bros. Odin gives us a solid alt wincon so we can ditch Liam, and Zwei is such a solid stabilizing card in the midgame. Easy S tier deck
>>531816002a yes the deck is fun when forte is not even in the deck
>>531816136she can't keep getting away with it
>>531815797>>531815731ehehehehe maybe the roach DOES survive the apocalypse?
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>just kill lilanthim 8 times bro
Do I have to craft my 3rd odin
>>531815482i figured titania would be mandatory with all those fairy-buffing cards, but i guess not
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22 win aggro abyss master diamond
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you guys didn't forget about me right?
you didn't do something as unreasonable as replacing me with cards from a new set right?
>>531816179What do you do against Rune when they just pump out heals?
>>531816351Anon she has aura
>>531816364the only blind here is you
>>531815190cool but when are we getting chicken leader
>>531816152I like him. I thought I wouldn't cause he's a shitskin but he's pretty cool
>>531816348Give it until after the tournaments this weekend and you can probably play it again
>>531815482How do you roach without the teddy bear bounce refill?
Who are the homo leaders/sleeves even for? Fuck I just realised women play this game
has any runeBITCH posted a proper spellboost list? how many of the 3pp ward are we running? How many of the 6pp heal 8?
>hearthstone just had a massive balance patch
>Shadowverse: *crickets*
any boomers know if these new illustrations are lifted from the Rage of Bahamut?
they don't seem to be in the OG Shadowverse
WHO ARE ALL THESE PEOPLE PLAYING RAMP DRAGON WHAT'S THE TECH?
>>531816420Gotta try this when I get enough vials to craft 3 Odins in next set
ABYSS ABYSS ABYSS ABYSS ABYSS ABYSS ABYSS
NOBODY PLAYS ANYTHING ELSE
>>531816610The point of the deck I think is to play for board and do decent damage, and then finish them off with like a 5-8 damage roach? The cards are definitely much more midrangey like with Cynthia there. Think Sword and Albert but its elf girls and an insect
>>531816761fish anon, fishes
>>531816728the set is the balance patch bro
>>531816761the merman and merlady
>>531816731yes except for the aria(?) that one's new
>>531816731they are old rob cards
>>531816509Time spent healing is time not spent clearing your shit. Take advantage of a lot of your 2-3PP followers for early pings, and use Noah to build up enhanced puppet for a big 12-14 damage Orchis turn. It's probably the deck's worst match-up but you have enough time to buff puppets and with Odin we have more ways to push face damage.
>>531815482>Iโve never once beaten a Bishop>no titaniachecks out
>>531816420>memorialnyo...
It's great but it feels so shitty spending 3pp on an amulet.
I want meat
>>531816731They are from Evolve. That's why it's an Evolve crossover thing.
Imagine playing wardhaven
>>531816652All these Jap vtubers play it, they're all for those stinky bitches
>>531816761>WHAT'S THE TECH?the guy literally tells you to start with the basic fish stance
>>531816930Probably thinking why tech against a 10-90 matchup (they don't draw Aether by 7PP), and instead just build more consistency against the other decks
>roach is just dork general but better
hehe
>>531815769you can beat aether boards with forest
https://files.catbox.moe/xqnhfp.webm
>>531816179Your bait would be more effective without "Easy S tier deck"
>>531816868>>531816875dang, thanks bros. i was hoping they were drawing new tittie card arts, but i guess not
Whats the best deck. I can only make one.
>>531816976How's Colette Stormbro? I want to try her but don't know what to cut.
https://files.catbox.moe/wkm11j.mp4
>>531816976my list looks so different than yours i bet
Will we receive new stages/new soundtracks in the future? I feel kinda bored already of the ones we have.
>>531816930There is quite literally no way for Forest to beat Haven once Aether enters the field. You would need big followers already on the board on top of the perfect hand but forest doesn't have that. It needed something like noble fairy which is just Lily but for the entire board.
>>531816002What are the mulligans?
post bratty fairies, I need to unload on them after losing to forest
>>531816956that 4 extra damage to face when you drop dork general
>>531817181We don't know, its day 3
>>531817517We knew all decks by day 0 on vanilla.
>>531816610Odin their face and you won't need all that reach
>Medusa cant destroy the buffed artifact
Are any of the omens actually popular?
>>531816695https://youtu.be/nnIybIzNRDo
>how many of the 3pp ward are we running? 0, he is shit
>How many of the 6pp heal 8?3
>>531815483Annoyingly, it's not surprising. Garyu is a very balanced card. That is to say, it's not sufficient pay off for ramping. Garyu also competes with Neptune for super evo.
>>531817672lishenna and galmieux
>won 15 of last 20 games in sapphire
What the fuck is the criteria to promote?
So this is the power of lamp dragon.....
>>531817181artifact portal can flex into every match up and has a ton of options to build decks
only loses to its pilot being a retard but portalkeks are somehow more retarded than swordbabs
>>531816002What you replaced to put forte in?
I can't fucking believe Hochan is good.
>170 packs opened in set 1
>50 opened in set 2 so far
>still didn't roll a ticket
FUCK KIKEMURA
>>531817718Garyu might have a niche if you actually had a way to play the gold and silver dragons without him so super evolving him would give you storm dragons instead of one.
>>531817684>3 of the 6ppfuck's sake I only have two. My vials...
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Goddamn after playing Artifact portal since the set release it felt really damn good to go back to Rune. BTFO'd a Dirtbag and another Shartifact player back to back.
Satan D climbed the last guy with 2 more 0cost D Climbs in my hand, I got off so hard bros
>>531816179Puppet is the only strong but honest deck now since royaltard sold their soul to levinhomo.
>>531816976Ward Haven is so ass to play too. I liked Haven last set so I spent all resources for it, but it's Dragon tier in terms of being able to be piloted by a monkey retard
And the games are so long because you have to wait for your opponent to think of a way to deal with the spam when you just play 1 or 2 cards on your turn
I unironically can play 3 or 4 matches with aggro Abyss for 1 Haven match
If anyone is considering playing this deck, don't. You will be bored to death and it's not even that strong. Play literally anything else (except Dragon)
Did KMR grease the battle tables during the update? Doesn't seem possible to stand on them any more. Your can still stand on Eudie's head though...
>>531817804>"what if phoenix roost only worked for one player"no shit she's good
>>531817818horrible rune matchup, beta can't outdamage 6/6 annegrea and blaze destroyers, healing and board wipe are pointless because dclimb otk, gundam is cucked by enhance shikigami or an evolved normal shikigami if that buys them a turn to win
Any good abyss decklists out yet?
>>531815303it doesn't matter, it's all the same once you have most of the cards
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Anons....
>>531817684I ran this deck a lot today and it has some issues imo but it's a good deck
>>531818146I've been having fun with it in A rank.. Still really early ladder though so whether it'll be good when the meta settles remains to be seen.
>>531817896weak
16 in IE as well
>>531818256https://shadowverse-wins.com/?more=10&leader=Nmr&mp=Master&seasonId=62&format=rotation&group=diamond
>>531818302>literally paying to loselmao
>>531818302you're throwing out everything good about haven to play as a shitty midrange sword deck
DO NOT do it
>>531818058Dragon is more fun though
So anyone else feeling like Earth Rite is kinda bad?
Everything it does feels like it needs EVO and Earth Rite cost... for fairly underwhelming effects.
The 2 cost gold needing a SEVO is sort of a joke.
There is very little payoff offered in general, it feels like most of the games I won were against do-nothing decks like ramp dragon where playing 2 cost 2/2 into 2 cost 2/2 into 3 cost 3/3 do nothings was enough.
The 8 cost chick also needs a SEVO for an effect a fucking portal gold gets on evo and the resurrection ain't shit at 8 cost where you'd expect most cards to start winning you the game on the spot.
Most of the cards are in the 4-5 cost range and even those feel underwhelming. The 6 cost guy is GREAT, but not good enough.
Despite the deck having a TON of "deal X damage to enemy follower" effects I often feel like I need more board clear options as that is simply not enough.
Most games I feel like I depend on some form of ping damage combined with the Sage spell to clear. Against Haven that isn't nearly enough.
Again, most things are not only conditional, they also need an EVO point.
The deck running 3 Odin is also a clear sign that it just doesn't have any reach or payoffs on its own.
I couldn't even experiment much, because the deck runs every dirt card there is. I tried using the 5 cost crest girl, but she is dogshit compared to Grea/Anne.
What the fuck is the deck even doing?
Just bring back the acid golem slime thing to burn for 3-6 or however much.
The current setup is horrible and depends on your opponent bricking or playing a shit deck.
Some people said in previous decks that it isn't that good against what was it, haven? But had a decent if not favored matchup against everything else? How is that?
Are people just running spellboost with 6 earth rite cards and claiming it to be dirt?
Do tell me where I'm wrong, because I used to like dirt both in UL and in rotation back in sv1.
>>531817684where... is the win condition? JUST satan d climb?
>>531818302dont fucking do it
>opponent jeannes my board by i have 19 hp
>just play 10pp do nothing, don't even burn the sevo I held onto, don't give a shit if they have griffon
>get 20 lethal two turns later
God, haven is dumb
Ward Haven warps the meta in a fucked way because instead of being good against the top tier decks it is protecting the top tier decks by going after the niche decks that are trying to beat the top tier decks. The biggest buff Rune got this expansion was Ward Haven existing.
Roach was basically the opposite where the top tier decks were beating roaches bad matchups and then roach was eating the other top tier decks.
>>531818519It needs burn sources
Literally just that
Ways to set on fire the other shitter with pings damages into slamming the 8pp fansly whore
>>531818604Man I miss when shadoba was fun.
>>531818660How are you getting them into kuon lethal range without destroyers or anything to chip? I'm not doubting the deck but it seems... hmmm idk
I guess I'll watch him play some games in the video
>>531818707Yeah, more effects like the remove spell with 2 face splash
That one is pretty neat
>>531818604I just understood that the glass part of flame and glass is supposed to be ice
it took me almost 10 years to figure that one out
READY GREA? RIGHT BEHIND YOU, ANNE!
READY GREA? RIGHT BEHIND YOU, ANNE!
READY GREA? RIGHT BEHIND YOU, ANNE!
READY GREA? RIGHT BEHIND YOU, ANNE!
Pulled 3x of her, what is she good for?
>>531818146It's playable but unless you want to fuck one or all of Orchis Zwei and Eudie there's no reason to play it over other decks.
>>531818302well, you want to win don't you?
>>531818769You hope to slam Norman after you protect him with 2 barrier golem
>>531818904heh.. well lets just say... my penits
WITNESS MY KUNG FU!
*superevos a dragon nanny*
Wait a second, why is satan not a "named" card in english if he is in jp?
>>531815190Lishenna is artifact cards right?
>>531816976I love killing them on turn 7 with odin after they played wilbert
>>531819039Burgers are sensitive snowflakes who have to be protected from bad words.
I'm literally forced to get 40 ranked wins tomorrow.
Fuck my chungus life.
>>531818146They are great especially if you are waifufag because your deck centered around Orchis. They are also the only altcraft that is actually complete unlike dirt Rune, ramp Dragon and control Fairy.
Cheapest deck in the planet
>>531818976Yeah that does seem pretty likely against most decks I guess
>>531818670Refer to my previous post
>>531818058
>>531818797Claim the puppet deck first
>>531819201I already have 3 Zwei
>>531817684Huh, neat my conclusion was also to cut seraphic for melvie/norman
I still don't get why pascale's is getting rated so highly though. I'd rather keep miranda
>>531819149Puppets are not complete at all what
It's playable despite not being complete but half the deck is neutral or contributes nothing puppet related.
So is the intended use of Yurius just that he's a turn 8 bridge into turn 9 Albert? I'm confused what you're trying to do with him.
>>531818797Dont craft now. Roll first and claim free portal deck. Save for set 3.
oh shit og fileneman came back to the desss to draw her again
https://x.com/catponz/status/1945756809509429556
notice the lack of f**t and focus on cleavage instead
Is abyss a safe invest? GOt two abyss lesbians and 2 Cerberus so i'm thinking about crafting the charons and going for it.
>>531819303You gotts draw and put up stacks for both norman and aoe spell
>>531816351Yes bro go ahead
wtf do you do against all these wards
this meta is more retarded than the last
do you guys use the building or priestess artwork for sacred sanct
>>531819394Yeah, i realized there could be lines into double evo norman stats now that I took a moment to think about it
Even if it can just be removed, it's a good hand check/resource burn on opponent
>>531819432Play ramp
Then you lose hard against abyss so you will want to play ward
>>531819352You autowin most game on yurius if they aren't odin it
>>531819352He's a cardcheck. If you are playing him on a clear board the opponent must have the right card like Odin or they just lose.
>vs ramp fag
>opt out
not playing with that shit, onward to your next instadeath vs some bats
haha.. what are the chances that ginsetsu doesn't destroy amalia and picks 4 knights instead..
>>531819580He didn't save Haven...
>>531819580I liked when he was fat
>>531818707Yeah, I'm really not sure where they were going with these two sets.
The 8 cost bitch should have never been a card in this way for what earth rite was in it's prime.
>>531818801At 4 cost that is kinda harsh... It's like the vanilla 4 cost removal each class has. Might experiment with it, but single target removal is not enough imo.
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I started winning when I put soiree in the deck not so easy to run out of hands and value anymore. Not sure I care about the bat package
All that Ramp needed was good 5 pp and 6 pp cards that don't need super evolves to do anything. They got it.
Fishes protect against aggro. Cheap out Ho-chan with the 6 pp spell. Play Ho-chan and draw a bunch of cards until you get double genesis dragon and OTK.
The only way you lose is you open three genesis dragons in your opening hand.
We're back boys. It's shadowverse 1 meta all over again where Portal, Rune and Dragon dominate while Sword and Forest are in the trash bin while Haven and Abyss flounder around in the middle.
Ramp Dragon has a surprising about of card draw.
I thought dragon was meant to be the craft with the least card draw but I guess I was very wrong. I'm guessing it's more like Sword?
>>531819392Any deck that wants to go late is hard countered by rune so I wouldn't call it safe
>>531819684He's still pretty good by himself, even without Aether.
>>531819306https://x.com/Shadow_monomono/status/1946209688347136336
https://x.com/hirnon/status/1936806937527808418
suddenly i want to play sw*rd
>>531819151Still haven't crafted it because I kept winning against haven too much as Rune.
Also no HOLY SABER.
Is it at least fun?
Albert looked a lot more fun when he used to summon 2 knights that instantly evolved as well.
This current version looks boring.
>>531819352His job is cucking orchis
>>531819790I was wondering whether to play face or ramp after I rolled Filene, but I feel like rampkeks are trying to trick me.
>>531819580shouldnt he be wearing contacts in midst of battle
>>531819958Be a good onahole
>>531819915I have a rune deck I just decided to have another few decks going to test run it soon
>>531819432the aggro abyss matchup isn't *horrible* desu.
as long as they don't perfect curve, and I do mean perfect, it's winnable with some odin/olivia in deck.
>>531819958I'm plapping eudie
yeah... im retarded and keep losing. i dont know what to do and i just netdecked off some diamond JP on SV wins who had a 10 win streak with this deck. please help
They should really make a eudie sex mode for the room, give it some actual purpose
Personally I think that we need more Rune players on the ladder to cull the Ward Haven population.
Less Ward Haven shitting up the ladder and more honest slow Rune decks
>>531820216smelly cerb player...
>>531820210You have my vote
>>531819976Aggro is fine it's just they haven't go any new toys while Ramp finally got their early ramp payouts.
Garyu is trash now. Forte is still good in Ramp but not the main payout. Neptune and Merman are Amalia on crack since they provide the better value for pp cost. It's like they got no ramp tax at all. I'm not entirely sold on Filene except to stare at her feet.
>>531820216List? Thought abyss cut cerb
how can i make my deck funner? I try to only hit face and be as aggressive as possible. I lose alot in ruby but I just wanna have fun
i only have the sword cards so i cant play anything else
>>531820210>Big Aggro lobbyistBampy's strongest soldier...
>>531817479fish, oracle, merman
>>531817829x2 twilight
x2 burnite
x2 liu feng
>Bronze and silver cards unironically saved abyss
APOLOGISE!
>>531820210I'm playing rune with 2x odin as a special middle finger to haven
Annoying that some of the, run censers now to stall shit even longer after odin to face
>>531820337>I'm not entirely sold on Filene except to stare at her feettreat her as 2pp 2/2 bane
>>531819893I've made the argument before that the spells don't really count as puppet synergy since they're more just generic removal than puppet generators or users(though the 3pp spell with Zwei is more realistic synergy than using it with Orchis I guess)
I'd have to watch some footage to see what value he gets out of the 2 drop because she doesn't seem good to me.
>>531820131how the fuck did you win that
>>531818519>So anyone else feeling like Earth Rite is kinda bad?>Everything it does feels like it needs EVO... for fairly underwhelming effects.me when lamp...
>need to dump an evo or 2 on shitty 4pp 3/3 to ramp since dragonsign is hardcoded to only appear after you dropped a chicken to fuck with you>need to dump a sevo on neptune or shes a fucking 7pp 9/9 with 2 heal and 4 rush damage>will need to evo on the chicken turn or you get bent over >thats pretty much all evos out and you will probably need to twilight and sevo him next turn to get ur chicken going>now garyu is a 4pp brick neptune is a 4pp brick and merman is a 3pp brick against the diabolical shit other decks have turns 7-10atleast lamp gets the sick double genesis or twilight genesis screenshots while pascale is literally never gonna trigger and if it does it wont do shit
>>531820343Charon package helps a lot against the aggro matchup. Pre-emptively setting up double wards on their super evo odin turn is very important.
Ironically the meta shifted from day 1 and it went from rando decks to full on blood aggro vs the rest which is a mishmash of midrange. This list has a decent chance against aggro and attempts to go slower vs midrange lists to win out by value.
The addition of odin to remove goldenrod actually helped my forest matchups as rare as they are. Forest was near unwinnable back in the day.
Next set better have Rodeo and Skullfane support. Wild that they added one amulet and it doesn't actually have last words.
I need the ultimate Abysscraft list, pronto.
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>>531820626It feels shit to have decks intentionally designed to be inferior.
We already know they are CAPABLE of making these archetypes good, they just decided that they are going to be the designated dogshit ones for these few sets.
Kinda infuriating.
>>531820616Liltanthim ate up his resources I guess
>People seem to be dropping Bonemancer
Bros...
>>531820187ditch the adjucators and run the 3 pp draw 2.
If you don't curve perfectly on Haven you lose.
The heal 2 draw 2 guy is too slow.
>>531820856something tells me the one on the left has an extremely weak sphinter
>>531820856>right onewho is this semen demon
>>531818058>played a ton of storm haven>knew my wincon was griffon>play ward haven>my win con is?????????I was so disappointed by ward, especially since everyone has 60 board clears you just run out of shit and then you got nothing.
Why did they make Eudie so erotic?
>>531820880I wouldn't mind bad decks as much if there weren't other decks stealing the best shit because there aren't enough restrictions. Like spellboost taking all of Earthrites healing for free and Artifact just slamming down Orchis.
>>531820431Isn't cuttibg these cards for forte a bit too dangerous? Especially Liu
Worth 5k vials to finish this?
Dragon is NOT bad actually, he literally had infinite healing due to the fish bullshits, if he run more storm I would've lost.
>>531820935seraphic tidings? got it
>pull 3 lilanthims
>her deck is dogshit
Dirtbros... why...
>>531821137You might feel like it was a mistake when the meta shifts and everyone techs to kill Abyss.
>>531821178dont you lose here
>>531821120>Isn't cuttibg these cards for forte a bit too dangerous? Especially Liuthats the part of gambling I love
why is everyone playing abyss
>>531821297nigga just look at shadowverse-wins
>>531821387yeah but I need the ULTIMATE list if I'm gonna spend my precious vials on this shit
>>531821353I simply already had 2 aragavy 2 medusa 3 odin 3 cerb and decided crafting 3rd aragavy would probably be a good idea
>>531821387every abyss deck is practically unplayable this set.
Vuella is actually stupid
>>531821289Look at top right, the red zero, he decked out stalling for like 30 turns
>>531821435then find the highest winstreak one
>>531821353dirtcheap and facefucks spellboost
>>531821528>he left vuella alive
>>531821528She's up there with aragay for how universally useful she is.
>>531820131How did you even out his board on top?
>>531821569Funny thing is i think that's the only thing it's good at
>>531821591Who is left one?
I'm running into an endless stream of ramp dragon I'm so confused
>mfw I missed lethal because I forgot about the super evolve ping
>have 4 Alberts, 2 Amalias, 2 Yurius, and 2 Gildarias
I feel like I should take the sword decks even though I have never played sword
>>531821243>>531818519It's not, it's an aggro deck, you just use turns 1-4 to drop 2 drops, contest board with edelweiss/perfumer and get 5-6 dirt stacks, play juno, evo, play norman, evo, it's hard to deal with and usually lets you go face enough to finish with odin/ice spell.
Lalanthim is only useful vs spellboost because it's slow as fuck and lets you set it up.
That said, you don't always have to stick to that plan, you can play around with different routes and you have a lot of ways to contest board so if you're getting out aggro'd you can swap to a more control playstyle and just try to heal out of their kill range while summoning golems every turn.
so how do you clear aether
any tips against heaven 6/7/8 combo as AF portal?
the only out at t7 is just Orchis, double gamma can't even clear that board
and Beta face race mostly doesn't work
>>531821795That literally only works against dogshit do nothing decks though...
Everything has WAY TOO MUCH clearing power for any of your 2-3-4 drops to ever hit face.
>>531821061That was my exact thought when I played the deck
>I just shit out followers and hope they can't clear hem in a game where every craft has a board wipe every turn?
>>531821791>bane storm kill big ward>ghost kill other ward>evo last ghost go face
>"It has good match ups against X, Y and Z but it can't beat ward haven"
I hear this so fucking often for so many decks
>my dumbass fucked up and got outplayed
well shit
>>531821902have shit on board for wilbert/aether turns
they can only clear one follower
of course my first fucking legendary premium card is titsania
>abyss went from E tier to literally unplayable
Great, love this game
>>531820931She'll come back when we get a deck that actually cares for departed
>>531821885>ForestConcede
>SwordNot sure there's a 7pp clear not involving enhance(5) gold drawing samurai
Not sure there's a convenient way to clear her at all for sword
>RuneWilliam
>HavenChalice
>AbyssCrypt Mukan
>DragonFilene or Twilight
>PortalOrchis 8pp+
Puppets doomwrite <7pp
>>531821941Idk anon I'm winning enough with it to say that it's not bad, though I seem stuck in sapphire at master, I haven't gotten into diamond with it yet, I'm usually at 11-12 wins in the past 20 games, did anyone ever confirm that 13 is what you need to get diamond?
>Loved storm haven last xpac
>Haven feels like shit now
>Love Forest so may try and learn that
>Indifferent to sword
>Spellboost is incredibly boring
>Don't know shit about dirt
>Don't really care for dragon
>Never played Abyss
>Too stupid to play portal with all the fusion shit
I guess I just play sword now? I though maybe I could get to sapphire this xpac but I figure I'll be lucky to ever make it back to ruby. Playing 50+ games tilted af probably didn't help. Storm haven really clicked with me but now that's gone and I haven't found anything else that really clicks with me, except forest, but I'm bad at combo so maybe non roach will work? I just don't know anymore.
>>531822058>brick against everyone>feast on wardkeks
>>531822058Ward Haven shitstomps midrange decks that want to win by around turn 9 which is what could stop rune. Now you either win the game by turn 6, play rune and easily clear while winning on turn 10, or play long control games to outlast haven but lose to rune.
>play princess rose (5)
>it tutors a samurai
>albert+samurai on turn 9 to win
wtf
>>531822241he trooned out
>>531822370that card is fucking stupid
Aura from aether is fucking worthless
I have not seen a single apollo since the patch dropped, shouldn't he deal with abyss and sword
Every day I suspect more and more that Odin might actually be bad
Sword was tier 2 for less than 12 hours.
>>531822326REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>531822497deagon plays it
nothing else has space
>>531821885olivia>odin works frequently enough for me
>>531822475If aether didnt give aura roach would still have positive matchups against all decks
I'm finally back to diamond. I dropped all the way down to topaz at the end of the last expansion.
>>531822497loses to ward haven
>>531822497I play it for the sword matchup as abyss
>>531822541Why is haven still there?
>>531822583the feet sleeves are filthy
>>531822541dirt is not tier 3 and definitely not the worst deck in the game
>>531822637But now no one plays Roach and you are left with worthless sevo effect.
>>531822637Face dragon got even stronger and it was already good against roach.
>>531822719whats is the worst deck in the game then
>>531822497>never see apollo>start playing forest>suddenly everyone has apollo
>>531822541This website is to be ignored for shadowverse
>>531822541>abyss in S or ALol, lmao
>>531822651What are you playing?
>>531820216>>531822860Surely you have better?
>>531822094there's no powerful board for artifact at t5t6 though
at best it's alouette+ gamma/beta into the same at t5/6, but it's not that strong
it's not like artifact can clear wilbert's leftover clean with gamma
you leave 2 2/1 and they'll trade into gamma, then aether sev into alouette
I almost never win against perfect curve Heaven without Orchis
bare doll feet or stockings + boots???
>>531822784Nobody wants to learn deck when it has 0% chance to win against haven. The same thing doesn't seem to discourage brainless swordkeks though
Which deck to absolutely wipe the floor with ward cancer haven?
>>531822583>odins wilbert>burnite sevo first aether>twilight 2nd aether >burnite filene spell 3rd aether >desperation tech lapis gets odin'd >any turn you dont flood the board is a turn they can drop chicken on and facefuck you
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>>531822719Agreed it's a tier2 deck, it's still flying under the radar due to not existing in set 1, so very few people are giving it a chance.
>>531822261How do you do against portal?
I'm on artifact and I cannot ever get close to beating dirt rune, it's always a total stomp
>7 havens in row
>all with Salefa Willbert Aether curve
I am literally NOT ALLOWED to play Abyss or have fun
>>531822840Why would you ignore it they have great decks like this one for face dragon
>>531823047doesnt midrange abyss eat ward haven?
>>531822937>wins 1 lucky game on abyss>immediately goes back to sword for free farmLol, lmao
>>531822497Apollo is useless against Portal Dragon Rune the top dogs.
No one wants to tech a brick just to have a slightly better matchup against Sword.
Abyss doesn't care. Apollo doesn't do jack against the timmy cards like Beryl.
I can't believe Artifact is one of the cheapest meta decks...
i will be honest guys, im having fun playing.
i know we are not supposed to say it and we should complain all day but i just wanted to say it.
>>531823183its not really that cheap
>>531823149thank you for forfeiting
>>531823123i am still playing aggro but with sub 30% winrate i am having now can't say i am confident making a more expensive abyss
Yes, i am going all down to Emerald FOR THE SECOND TIME WITH AGGRO ABYSS
>>531822541Why is portal still in T1?
>>531823241Thank you for running an unplayable deck, your opponents will enjoy it.
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No feet jumpscare yet
>>531823227I mean you use like 6-8 legos unlike other decks that use like 20.
>>531822993Third Aether completely fizzles out since you probably already drew all your 2 and 3 drops.
Hell I saw a second Aether only summon one follower.
>>531823029I don't trust you you must be a cancer haven trying to bait me. I fucking hate you and I would be happy to lose to everyone else but wipe the floor with your fucking tumor
>>531823323havensister...
>>531822541Both my crafts are tier 2...
>>531823031Haven't seen enough of them to say, they seem to struggle against norman since they can't wipe him with gammas, and norman or golems surviving is usually a win, since you can super evo rami or play odin at that point and it's over.
Still lost a bunch to them though due to having a much stronger late game, if you drag it out enough you'll probably win.
>>531823184>luna >having fun>in this expansion for shadowHonestly I hope theres gonna be more control decks reappearing later on
>>531823414nta but ramp dragon farms haven
>>531823414You can play rune then, it's good not only against haven but all other decks too.
>>531823184I know what you mean, I was just planning on completing my dailies today but I ended up playing more than yesterday. I was just having too much fun
The fish deck is getting more popular now and its filtering me Abyssisters wtf do you even do when they summon like 40 whales and heal up for 4 and Olivia spam itโs cheating I canโt out value that
>>531823535im playing control abyss, honestly anything feels better than what was abyss last set, so could be that.
>>531823632https://www.youtube.com/@ch-dq9dh
He's the guy who was playing Forest in those Sword scrims people were posting in every thread two weeks ago.
>>531823662Rune is not good against abyss (99% of the ladder right now) and forest
But yeah if anon doesn't mind losing most matches so long as he goes well against haven, rune is probably an ok choice
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>>531823759i don't know
last meta i got my shit kicked in by warrior of the deep and now it's a fucking merman
fucking fishes
>>531823759dumb fofo poster
>>531815043 (OP)>redeem dragoncraft>look at my deck>
>>531823516Yeah I can't find a way to out norman desu
Double gamma doomwright + the 2pp 3 ping spell is the only thing I can think of but good luck having all that
>>531823759it is kinda crazy, there was times i had a board that i was sure they couldn't clear, some nasty thing like 3 zombies with taunt,bane a evolved mukkan and super evo charon.
yet they clear it while healing
>craft everything i need for ward haven
>all my games have just been rune, dragon, puppet portal and the occasional abyss
>lost all of them except to abyss and one of the abyss games i lost was because i couldnt draw or mulligan salefa so they just burned me to death
surely losing to the aforementioned decks not named abyss is clearly just me being retarded right?
My average game with Aggro Abyss
>>531824067fugg you're right I feel like she's the answer to everything I wonder how many I should put back in
Kyouryu ga koeta dai kyouryu.....
>>531824253too many things competing for evolves in artifact so definitely not 3 sylvias
>>531824067Sylvia doesn't out norman fully if they played juno, still the best answer cause you only leave one golem and super evo'd rami can't kill sylvia alone, would need edelweiss on top or something and you usually don't have enough stacks to do that by that point
>>531824216portalfags somehow always have alouette
>>531823002No stick seems really weird
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other than one freak match where I drew all the 5pp+ on my opening hand, this seems to work well. 3 orchis feels a bit much though.
>>531824269MUTEKI MUSOU
TENKA MUNI
TENKA MUHI
>>531824216Same bro same. That's why I stopped playing it until I study some videos which I've been putting off doing.
Been playing midrange abyss and artifact portal now. I'd rather play puppet portal desu, but artifact is what KMR gave me the cards for. Midrange abyss has been the most fun imo. Artifact is... okay.
it fucking sucks not being able to liquefy everything and silvers getting nerfed
>>531824372thats not spooky,
this is the spookiest board
My average matchmaking with Aggro abyss
There are 5 more havens within the last 10 games
Fish are the most powerful creatures on the planet
Why the fuck can't I claim this last one? I finished all the missions???
>>531824343Oh whoops. I keep mixing up these two.....
fairy swarm with a side of roach will be the forest meta
>>531824465>Midrange abyss has been the most fun imo.And i am here, thatt can't make myself making cards or another abyss deck out of frustation
>>531824640you didn't clear all tho
So is Lilan any good? I have yet to seen her be played against me.
>>531824751>out of frustationwhy
About to delete 6k vials on either forest or midrange abyss send help
>tfw won against nu-ramp with old haven deck
grim
i guess i have enough time to save until the new meta fully stabilizes itself
so uh where did the aggro go?
Is 0 Yurius bad? I have everything in sword besides 3rd amelia and any Yurius
fucking love these onion (real, not word-filtered) so much
>>531824871the absolute ASS experience i am having
0 cards crafted for abyss so far
>>531824640a bug, they gave the pack, it should be in your crate
>>531825001just craft 2 cerbussy and you can play the deck whats the big deal
>>531824962id like to know too
so much fucking rune
>>531825001how does medusa bend her back like that
>Dreizhen's world destroyed by a faggot bot and a twink bot
>twink btfos centuries old falseflagger and saves his homeland from magic mist
How will Cygames make the rest of the character stories revolve around twinks?
Geez, they expected kids to read these?
Fish deck is hochan less ramp?
haven't been able to win a game since the set released
>hearthstone brain made me think super evolve minion had taunt
>>531824987some people dont even run yurius.
it requires a little bit of thought so sword players cant use it
>>531822326As much as we shit on their decks, dragonbros ALWAYS has your back
>>531825132The how is not important. And the why is because it makes my dick rock hard.
>>531825080It's the tilt
Performing bad with aggro makes me feel like i am gonna do worse with an harder deck
But really really should try these decks
No idea of what list make though
>>531825203Fish deck IS the Hochan build.
>only won like 3 games out of the 10 today
please kill my retarded ass
been trying to make control abyss work.
it grinds for day but just loses
>>531824849No, she's terrible.
The one time she's actually good is against spell rune, as they'll be unable to kill her fully and you can finish them before they get to their satan shift
Elysian hares are so fun in sv1 I need them to reach sv2 soon
>>531825253nothing crazy
sylvias been good for me
>>531825376I was at consistent diamond with a 60%+ win rate on Storm Haven during Legends Rise. I'm in topaz now on Artifact Portal and at like 20%....
>>531825412>you could have used that luck to get the 100 packs but you wasted it in that
Havensissies do I craft your deck? I have but 2 leggo copies to craft to finish it
think im gonna uninstall wardverse, bros.
I have not seen a single good thing from these chests for close to 3 weeks now
>>531825376>ramp>rune>rune>rune>mirrorthis and it becoming walletcraft are like the 2 main reasons I dropped haven
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Aggro Abyss is so stupid
>>531825376>>531825476Same bros idk what's going on...
I want to smell Medusa's sweaty butthole
>>531825665>>531825476I dont know how much of it is me being a retarded but i havent been able to win anything in most of my games as ward haven, especially against all the runes, dragons and portals in topaz.. dragons. feels like everything just destroys my shit even if i do mull and somehow manage to get my curves
>>531825012holy kek, that's not even a compensation
wtf is wrong with them
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>>5318254511 Sylvia is good, I agree on that one, I had more luck only playing 1 instead of 2 or 3.
>>531825759Cy can't afford to give out card packs willy-nilly, do you want them to go bankrupt?
>>531825759its not a compensation, is just the pack you couldnt get...
>>531825376lmao same
the third set will SURELY fix haven
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>the most braindead deck of the new set is the only one that got a "tutorial"
is this really going to stay for only 10 days? are they ramping out the fomo
>>531825173>marie pegged a twink and is repenting for her sins>havenbitch trafficked twinks enmasse and is fleeing the government going after her for her crimes (the main investigator is a twink)>kungfu man has a twink sidekick that is trying to learn the kungfu way but he goes down the wrong qi pathway and has to be put down>aladin will be thrown in the past and confront his younger self whos a twink>rune will be looking for the greatest magician to every exist who will be a twink named larry or someshit
>go all in on OPs artifacts
>forgot the disappeared at the end
>>531825376That's normal, at least with storm I can win against rune and dragon
How many of you are suffering from crafter's remorse? Surely you didn't spend 10,000+ vials on a deck you ended up hating?
>>531825376ward haven is fucking TERRIBLE bro, the current popular decks right now all shit on it
>>531826165I love my deck but i wish artifact was stronger.
>>531826165I could never hate vampycraft
>>531826165i am
ward haven
sigh
savebros how are your hoards looking like?
>>531826165I spent 15k on haven but now I'm playing aggro abyss where I only had to craft 2 golds
Nice indestructible ship with ward you have there. Would be a shame if someone banished it.
>>531826165I spent a ton on all the rune legendaries, then I made three forte. I regret making all the rune legendary cards so bad
>>531826165Spent 2x gayru
Regerts
>>531826275keep saving until eos bro
>>531826285SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>531826165I'll just recycle the better Ward haven pieces into a Storm Haven deck when there's too many Ho chans and runies floating about, and switch back when there's high amounts of aggro.
>>531826010it's because of the alt-art lapis
regular scam packs usually just gives you orbs(wow 10 legend value!!)
>>531826043Not anymore with that can't be destroyed by effects portal players can just slap on all their artifacts.
>>531826165haven't crafted, haven't picked the free deck
just playing face dragon while i get freebies and wait for the dust to settle
didn't craft anything from the previous set either
>>531826043The ones with the orange barriers don't disappear at the end.
>Can only play Yurius on an empty board
Something tells me my deck is better without him
I know he's machine, so that's why with the uncanny valley of a waist?
>>531826165my main class didn't get any good legends so my vials are safe for this expansion
>>531826415I would have bought it all for another orb though
>>531826165I made a norman for a second one and called it a day, still above 20k
>>531826530fanservice for fujos
>>531826415The only valuable thing is the 2x sleeve anim currency unless you really want that alt art
>>531825794hows the 1 drop and lovestruck been for you
i was running the one drop but found myself mulliganning it away for real cards 9 times out of 10
>>531826504Idk I think he's the mvp of my deck so far. I run 3
three hundred more to go~
>>531825376Where can you see this information?
>>531826415didn't last pack also have alt art? that lasted for the whole set
>heartrate noticeably increases when i queue for ranked
>get really flustered and embarrassed when i misplay
>feel ashamed when i ignore my opponents board and just go face
why am i like this
>>531826415it's because of the evolve tie-in
Ok what i need for Midrange/Control whatever
I can't go on with having auto concede on turn 3 or 5
>>531826165I only craft 2 of the necessary leggos in the hopes of getting another one on a random pack. Saved a bunch of vials this way.
>>531826165redeemed lamp dragon
most fun i had in this game
chucking olivia forte and burnite on the same turn is such a fucking powerplay that it makes up for being hardstuck on the border between sapphire and ruby
>>531826612It's pretty decent turn 1 and it's a free gear.
>LovestruckIt's quite decent actually since a lot of decks are running x/3 so I can use the puppet and lovestruck to kill them.
>>531826682last scam pack only had premium orb
>>531826696You have Arrhythmia
>>531826165I blew all of my vials on forest only to go back to rune after playing against 3 ward haven in a row.
>>531826415The alt art lapis is worth it.
>>531826710I feel like your issue runs deeper than playing the wrong deck
>>531826829I know, i am too mentally damanged for playing this game
>>531826710dark side can be used on enemy minions
>>531826797the card is literally never played...
>The alt-art lapis is worth 10,000 crystals
lol, lmao
Playing control abyss, any tips for beating artifact?
I genuinely am at a loss as I can stall for days but with cannon they can eventually grind me into gundam lethal range or just build two gundams.
>>531826880I have/had her in my storm deck. Usually 1 copy of her with Griffon. Both have won me many games....not since the new xpac but I'm confident a good storm deck will be figured out.
>>531826797Brick everyone can banish her now. The sleeves maybe
>>531826797damn, that's pretty artwork
>>531826710you lost because you concede, and you will keep losing because of that
not because of the deck or whatever
play it out, retard
>>531823865Merman is literally the gigachad meme.
>>531826952Whether she's played or not is irrelevant. I can still get enjoyment from looking at the art.
>>531826904most lists dont even run cannon and if its that big of a problem you can odin it
fuck off this isn't feetlene
>>531826971match was unwinnable anyways
I get my Zirconias on evo turn more consistently with zero draw than I get my Wilberts on turn 6 after drawing 3 with ding dongs+amulets.
>>531826165I spent 10k on sword last season and it feels ass
>>531826797texture swapping in sv2 is very easy, it's not worth it.
>>531827093Yeah sword is really bad I hope set 3 gives it something
>>531827042ding dong as 4th and 5th 2drop or?
>people complained about 4 healing from rune
>now it's 8
these dudes literally heal 20 hp in a few turns
>>531827010>bike cuck meme except it's you saying the total enjoyment of the world has gone up when someone banished your Lapis.
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>TWO chickens
>>531827128I've spent over $800 on the game, if not closer to 1k, no way I'm fucking with any of that shit. I lost a 5+ year FFXIV account a few years ago due to botting but that was enough for me to not mess around with something I've dumped a ton of money/time into.
>>531827128teach me sempai
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>mfw I lost to the advanced forestcraft bot
are lygma and olivia bad for forestbabs right now?
haven't seen thaaat many forest decks for this expansion, but i think i actually saw 0 decks using either lygma or olivia
>aether summoned only 1 dingdong
Thank God she's not as broken as what portal players have
Is there going to be another chest event? Maybe I should play less right now
>play roach
>always considering what to do
>figured I was too stupid
>watch streamers play the deck
>they're always also contemplating what to do
Maybe I gave it up too soon and with the non combo decks floating around this is my time.
Am i doing something wrong/having a massive skill issue or does ward haven get assfucked by puppet portal, rune and dragon? feels like they can just fuck over everything i do
>>531827190no I'm just malding that I'm drawing an average of like 3 extra cards before turn 6 with ding dong+sanctuary and I'm still drawing Wilbert on 6 less than Zirconias on evo turn when I play sword decks with 0 draw.
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Torn apart between claiming portal st for my third orchis, dragon for my third fennie or sword for my second leggo and not being able to test the decks beforehand is shitty
Anybody saving their gold right now?
>>531827017>odinhuh didnt consider running him
good idea
>>531827256what were you botting? i used to see so many people so blatantly botting gatherables/crafting, etc, surprised to hear about someone getting got
Anyone here tried the no 2pp followers midrange abyss?
>>531827536you win this lol
why is odin 7pp with storm? wsnt he 8pp before
fucking gay ass gayme now i i need to camp 7th turn from 7 to the face
>>531827536Enjoy your double zirconia next turn anon.
Happened to me too many times.
Tomorrow (today) I will play forest and maybe some sword.
>>531827435oh what? did you want 3 of them and 2 Lymagas and 2 Bricktanias that you couldn't turn to vials instead huh?
>>531827590He Zirconia'd and I drew another fucking Ralmia. Fuck this shitty game so fucking much.
>>531827396>bane spam odin to out your wilbert>otk with fat board clears>fat board clears with chicken shenanigans and odin to out your wilbert
>>531827515Im holding until at least next expansion since it's going to be Omens and dragon might get the queen of handjobs as their next leader
>>531827565I was just botting classes. I had botted for 1000s and 1000s of hours over multiple years with not a single issue. I'm fairly certain a guild member report me and that's what got me banned but the pair of losing that account was enough for me to never mess with shit like that again that I actually invest my time into.
>>531827396Ward haven gets fucked by the classes that can comfortably clear Aether boards, more at 11.
Need friends for my bingo mission onegai
614266914214
2 sagelights
2 normans
That's it. Nothing crazy. 4 fucking cards. Guess how much healing that is? 24 fucking healing. For two regular ass evo points.
>>531827396It's tier 1 deck, you are just bad. But realistically current ward haven has a worse deck than the haven before the expansion.
>>531827808there's bingo?
How do you use this? This card has bane but no rush. I guess you use it like ward?
>>531827317It's basically the same as modding sv1 except now we have better general modding tools for unity games. I do need to figure out how these chinks use AI inpainting to generate plausible-looking nudes though.
>>531827808sure why not
sent
>check sv-wins
am I being trolled?
>>531827256>>531827751damn, sorry to hear that
your FC member sounds like a faggot
>>531826616damn that's fucked up
What can I even craft with this shit man
After ton of watching a lot of streamers I'm starting to think diamond is easier that emerald/topaz/ruby. I've seen some dumb shit and tons of bricks on streams but NEVER see any of that shit in my games.
>keep forgetting i have grimnir crest when i sevo
haha..
Lilian is actually good, right?
>>531827878>anons getting hard countered by rune and dragon means they'rehaventranny upplayers lmao
These JP players posting their 10 winstreaks and their deck has the absolute worse curve you've ever seen. This is definitive boost proof that JP handboost is real btw. Want proof? Play any of those decks and you'll brick every time.
what's ward haven's finisher? i'm guessing it's that one two cost card that gets ward and +1/1 when a ward dies? desu it's more manageable than before, but i'm sad agnes is an amulet card cause she's the best looking card haven has
>>531828115No.
It would be pretty sweet at 7 cost but at 8 it's a losing play
>>531827956No, I've seen better lists and satan seems pointless here but this deck shits on everything that isn't aggro abyss.
Living my best life with Fennie!
>>531825630I have nothing against you but seeing this makes me so happy
>>531828207I learned the hard way lmao.
>>531828209Ward Haven wins by playing Aether into Jeanne and buffing the board to an even more unkillable level. If the board gets cleared and you dont have a second aether you are just fucked which is why its matchups are so polarizing. Your class can either clear Aether or it cant.
>superevo lilanthim drops
>6 sigils
>gotta blow 2 dclimbs to kill her four fucking times or I die
bros is dirt good?
>>531828068for sure bro, for sure.
>>531828209>what's ward haven's finisher?hoping your OP runs out of stuff before you do they never do
anyone know how to get the old olivia card art?
Zwei is so trash sisters, where is our aoe? We still don't have wards before orchis. If this was rune for sure her effect would be crest and double stats
>tfw have to play rune for the mission
i miss isabelle mama
this genshit genderbent reject is ugly
>>531828457It's good but not because of the weirdly out of place gamer e-girl, literally the only time she's good is against spell rune
>>531827536Your fault for playing the 6pp lego brick.
>>531828494it's one of the buttons when you look at the card. I think it's within the deck building menu but might be the card menu.
>>531828457How did you lose 15-12 defense to dirt rune of all things?
Leaving that shitter alive for 1-2 turns shouldn't net them lethal unless you are doing something wrong, or playing aggro abyss.
bros what do i do? all my ranked games have just been against portal and dragon, barely any other class and i keep getting my ass beat. Please tell me im just bad at the game and its not the deck because i cannot beat any my matches against rune and dragon and thats all ive been seeing in ranked
>you can keep buying scam packs after exhausting all 10 rewards
oh wow
3x samurai 3x lancer 3x guncraft maid feels pretty good with princess rose..
>>531828059>3 filene>2 chicken>odinyou already know the answer
I unironically think WB is hard. Not like, I'm losing all my games so it must be hard. It just feels like any deck I play takes way more work than I expect and there are already a million things to keep track of in match ups even if my own deck is simple.
>>531828478>>531828449the only thing i've struggled with clearing in time is earth/spellboost rune desu, cause when that one card that keeps reviving pops up, i get slowly dismantled. that and sometimes sword.
>>531828770duh, were you expecting them to stop you from whaling
>broooooo ginsetsu and yuzuki answer ward spam!
>
Man I miss my shadow cards...
Abyss just doesn't hit the same.
>>531828268what's with all the one ofs?
>>531828729Take vessel and griffon out, replace with 3x Odin and 2x 5pp banish old man.
>>531828268how does it play exactly?
t. brainlet
>>531828921Blood doesn't fit in with shadow.
They should have just deleted portalcraft if they wanted to reduce the number of crafts...
>>531827751what do you even bot for in that game lmao everything is worthless
>>531828841Can't you just go around Lilan since she can't pop your Aether board
>>531828913yeah she does
on turn 7 you use medusa or mukkan
>>531829045they didnt want less classes. they just cried vengeance was to hard to balance
*releases roach again*
Zwei should also summon a lyod
>>531829045Blood was deleted because vengeance wasn't a real mechanic
>>531826797Bro I just realized I hard bought 50 packs with gems instead of pulling the "extra" bundle...
I'm so fucking dumb I already had 7x10 pulls on it so only needed 3 for the alt art...
I might oink again to make up for this wtf.
>>531828930>>531828985https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGbXLGi2Fow
decklist at the end.
>>531828963>only 1 odinrip
>>531829010>>531829145sounds like i should just run more medusas (and/or mukans) instead of 9pp bricks then
>>531829235this list makes more sense thanks for the video
>>531829212Sync heart exist. Also Victoria should have storm.
>if a fanfare kills yurius he doesnt lock the followerhaha get gundamed
>>531829235
>>531826797Can you show the evo? I kinda feel like I prefer the default art actually.
>>531829235>17 legendariesWhat am I supposed to do with this?
>>531829212I dread the 500 forest wins achievement
>dayan ragequitting to abyssisters
i kneel...
>>531829063I remember in sv1 you could do the tutorial mission with different classes to farm class level and you'd get a shitton of rupies for levelling every class to 100
Of course he played Fish and died to Odin
>>531829194>>531829224Portal got resonance removed so it's an identity-less bullshit craft that was made up on the spot from the fucking NPC FACTIONS.
>>531829393You mean Haven? Forest is pretty good into Abyss
>>531829429Portal's identity is cute robot girls
Is x3 garyu x3 olivia really necessary for ramp dragon? I don't have a single olivia and I'm missing 2 garyus
>>531829335You get two of them from the abyss starter deck.
>What about the restYour vials bro?
From what hp can ward haven kill you on an empty board? Is it just odin 4 (+3 from SEVO) or is there something more
>>531829437he just did it again
abyssisters are just outclassing the elfgawd...
>ligma leggo
let me guess shes useless
>>531829335>17huh? it's 20 anon
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So do I skip this for the coins, or is the story good?
>>531829429Eh, artifacts and other generated tokens are good enough.
Masters is just aggro now
>>531829429yup they turned portal into premium class. fucking pet class
does the reviving dirt rune legendary keep it's super evo if you kill it and it revives?
>>531829591lygmaga, the forest leggo
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Anyone else have this issue?
>>531829506Griffon on 9 should be 11 damage with blessing and ward buff, 10 on 8 but you need 0pp cum chalice on board to pull it off.
>>531829570Everyone has 3x Olivia at least (I didn't notice the alt Cerberus)
>>531829506if they run griffin, then it's 10 or 11 but it also depends if there's dark amulet that gives +1+1 so that griffin has storm. If there's no amulet on the bard there's nothing to worry about
>>531829741>>531829698Thanks, I'll just focus on odin lethal then.
>>531829429What is resonance?
>cheapest deck to build is sword at 9,500 vials
>second haven with 17500
>dragon with 19500
portal is also only missing x3 karulas but I want to try something new yk?
This is LITERALLY how the match up goes in current meta. We're repeating history.
https://youtu.be/8IRveDELgns
>open game
>matched with havensissy
>close game
im so fucking dogshit at this game...
>>531829596It's fine. They've gone a long way with the new live2d tech instead of the old flat VN style.
I hate Dreizhen and Eudie because they look like generic vtuber gachashit mutts.
The 13 story also has horrid character designs honestly...
Diawl was much better.
The problem is you can't skin 13 specifically because he is the Arisa of the story now that will tie the rest of the cast together...
Wish whoever decided to make portal into a craft in the OG game after launch had better ideas.
>>531830036nah this matchup was handcrafted to dumpster haven
fuck my disgusting perverted lucklet life
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Sword is okay I guess
(Ignore the 4 abyss wins, I got dropped to sapphire because of that shit deck)
>>531830036>>531830084>excuses see
>>531827878 stop making excuses and git gud
>>531815043 (OP)You have my attention.
>>531829045>They should have just deleted portalcraftRune first, then you can delete portal
>>531829964Portal doesn't even need 3x Karula. He's good but with all the aggro and Norman I'm seeing players running less of him and slotting Sylvia back in.
>>531830036stop playing haven if you want to win
>>531830230call me a brainlet but I also feel that portal now has too many moving pieces to play optimally and I'm getting performance anxiety just from thinking about it
I have literally never won against ward haven with aggro abyss
>>531829993When does our meta become fun like this one
so why is puppet portal honest
>>531830221Rune has an identity (it's just often over tuned), portal never had one to begin with.
Portal wasn't even part of the game initially.
I'm willing to compromise and have them delete both if that is what it takes though.
2 do nothings on the board!
>>531829429>>531829045Portal has more aesthetic identity relative to the other classes than bat wings on girls and monsters: the craft
In evolve they removed portal and gave its cards to the other classes and they stick out like a sore thumb, like a robot girl among knights or a pop idol among witches and golems
You can get both blood and shadow under a castlevania aesthetic craft, can't do the same with portal
>>531830230sylvia is a way more versatile option here
as a more control focused player i dont feel like cutting her out at all
>>531830036at least you have a qt 17yo maiden wife at your side
>>531815043 (OP)so when should I start saving rupees for next set?
>>531815193Fennie at 3 feels so bad though
>>531829235In the very first mulligan, what is he saying about aragay?
>>531830546how long is this expansion anyways?
>>531829993This is some anime episode climax kind of interaction lmfao
>>531830230>>531830494>free artifact copy just from summoning isn't good enough for portalfagsHuh? But I see people running that 2PP copy artifact card
>>531830546when you have all of the new cards you need from this set.
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i don't play this shit
>>531830457Portal is nonsense shapes and spaceshit slop.
It's only coherent because it's slop all over.
>they stick out like a sore thumbYeah the vtuber shit like rune got now sticks out like that as well now. Good job KMR.
Portal sticks out like a sore thumb right now and has always done so since it's release.
They are the "ignore the setting" craft.
Absolute cancer. If they delete it I wouldn't want to see any of their cards aside from the puppet ones.
At least the puppets fit in well with anything unlike the scifi shit.
I gotta find a job so I can properly have fun in this game
>>531829124mad the amazon cards are going to a shit class
I give haven 1 more day until its gone from the ladder and roach returns
>>531830671free 2500 vials just take it
>>531830646those are betavirgins you are talking about
im an omegachad
>>531830408My do nothing wife and our do nothing daughter
>>531830671the things i would do to titannias backdoor
if i pull her leader im gonna play forest
>>531830671Midrange is pretty good but you only need either 2 or 0 Titania
other legos are 3 Aria 3 Odin
>talk catastrophic amounts of shit about spellboost last xpack
>try it out this xpack
>drop to fucking topaz
jesus christ
What deck are you bringing for today's tournament
>>531830889not every swordbab can pick up a class as skill intensive as rune
>>531827331Ligma can't target aether she will never see play until rotate out
>brick against sword
>as fucking ward haven
>get demoted to emerald
well alright then
>>531830889It's been neutered bro
Even dirt beats it
i want to play puppet but i have no fucking eudies
>>531815043 (OP)torn between picking puppet prebuild and sword prebuilt, does anybody have suggetions/lists for these?
I don't even play dragon...
>>531830942Rune and bricked hand forfeit all the way
>Can only make 1 of
Midrange abyss(2 mukan 1 charon)
Forest(all the golds)
Sword(2 yurius)
What do...
>>531830678>Yeah the vtuber shit like rune got now sticks out like that as well nowShare
>>531831000Sword has quite a high chance of winning against ward.
>>531831128let me strangle you
>>531831202No it doesn't it can't out aether at all it autoloses to wilbert into aether which you can brick on
>>531831206Please stop hitting on me.
>>531830881This card is fucking bullshit, some guy revived this with Charon then super evo ghost and triple serpent my face, kill me from empty board just like that.
>>531831134Midrange abyss. Charon is only going to get better.
>>531830678>slop slop slopOkay /v/, come back when you can explain without buzzwords how a scifi class doesn't fit in a game that had a whole story arc in a robot dystopia and 2 whole sets giving every class robots, cyborgs and high tech weapons
abyss is good now right? i've been playing haven since launch so i'm use to playing garbage, but i want to play something atleast decent that's not rune portal or forest.
>>531830170Okay getting a bit cringe with how many times you've repeated that now.
>>531831295That was a larger mistake which was a result of portal being a thing to being with.
>>531830170man why do the schizos gotta play haven. you guys are supposed to be playing portal
>>531831116Both are easy midrange deck. Puppet has more reliable finisher while sword finisher gets cuck hard by ward but I think sword is just better this patch
>>531831305>haven set 1>abyss set 2You just want to play the strongest deck that you can still downplay faglord
>>531831430ain't no way bruv said haven was the best set 1
>>531831116you pick the one that you are closest to a complete deck with, or the one with most value to your account. the decks are unplayable as is
>>531831009What even happened, I feel like everything runs me over.
>>531831305>he still believes storm haven was "garbage" when people had >60% win rates with it
Hmm
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What's the better version? Draw more or have lethal threat ranges
>>531831513Strongest you can downplay not strongest overall sissy
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what puppet deck runs this
>>531828209Salefa
90% of aggro shitters in ranked playing vampires insta concede on t5 Salefa, most games i don't even get to play Aether
>>531831563Storm drop aether, shit playstyle for everyone involved anyways
>>531827956The random 1-ofs annoy me. Are you supposed to just have KMR on the phone to rig your draws for you to pull the right 1-of at the right time?
>>531831584whos that milk puppet
>>531831584earlyrange middish pseudotempo puppet portal
>>531831202yeah, this was just awful. i had salefa earlier and used her but all the valses did a giant chunk of my health after i tried to deal with zirconia
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>just win before turn 9 bro
>>531815193tenka..... muhi........
>>531831558i played pure amulet based decks so yeah.
>lobby tournament
I don't think Spellboost will do well this set in tournaments if many aggro fucks queue for it but if it's full of haven it should be good
mannnnnn what deck i can try to build for these events?
ginsetsu about to dunk on this cancerous board
Those lapis sleeves are sexy but incredibly expensive
Haven faggots give me AIDS
They whine on top of the downplaying, absolute mongrels
>>531831736rune has a 100%w/r going second LULE
>Playing ward haven
>oh SHIT it's rune
>guess I better conc-
>he's playing fucking Earthrite for some reason
>ends up playing 8 cost 5/5
>can only target destroy 1 follower because of the Aether aura
>loses because he can't clean up as Jeanne's coming around the corner
Why do Earthrite masochists do this to themselves?
>>531831558unironically yes
that jp swordcel was hitting 70% wr and i wouldn't say that sword was a better deck than rune or forest
>>531831271>autoloses to wilbert into aether which you can brick onNo idea what deck you are playing, but I played enough games as haven to know that sword can clear aether board even if it's on perfect curve.
>>531831775Ginsetsu is actually strong as fuck, can't believe retards said she's a brick do nothing card, why would anyone play aggro abyss when they have this broken as shit 9PP card, just stall so you can play her and win late game, without super evo it's really hard to remove her and the heal is very annoying.
>>531831882It's a bad matchup but not unwinnable by any means
Can't even use Agnes in the current meta
>>531831949Explain how cause I'm not seeing any card combo that can do it
>>531831991>just stall with the self-harm class bro
>>531831882He's a theme enjoyer.
>>531832017There's really no place to use her.
Someone post THE aggro abyss deck please.
>>531831997aether on board = gg no?
I'm going to keep playing pure dirt and you can't stop me
>>531831584I run her 'cause she's cute.
>>531831991>hard to remove This has never been a real issue if ward haven has taught us anything
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havenfaggots ruin this game with their cancerous ward and heal spam just kidding only rune can do that effectively
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>>531829235>>531827956I'm really tempted, but it would take almost all my vials.
The video looks great, seems like just about what I guessed.
Survive the first few turns then turn-by-turn your higher cost cards just generate more value than any other craft can.
I play spell rune and playing that has the very same feeling.
A sense of inevitability once things are stabilized and going in your favor.
Is it fun though?
I'm super worried because its such a huge investment.
>>531831991ENTER any 7+ sword cards (and Gil).
Get out-greeded, greedy bitch
>>531831991If/when the game goes post evos, itโs amazing. The board clear/heal 4 can push you out of lethal range pretty easily as well, provided you arenโt already dead. Still sucks having a 9 pp brick when a lot of decks have lethal on 8.
Wtf is up with this list. It's everywhere but all I seem to do is brick my spellboost cards with dirt and die.
>>531831775She's my favorite card in the game right now. Doesn't get used as often as other cards for obvious reasons, but it feels so good to use.
Though I feel like using her for the fox effect is kind of a waste
>>531832171You can use sagelight, grimnir's crest and edelweiss pings
Since dirt tends to have a good board you can actually hold even if you don't clear everything, real problem is if they curve with jeanne after aether
Is haven ward a fraud afterall?
>>531832310Literally just give her Earth Rite (2) nuke the entire board for her super evo
There, I fixed her
>>531828770>day 3 into expansion>9/10 physical cards already hit
>>531832441This one, I mean.
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Does this deck look good? Saw it on sv-wins
>>531832346>only the opponent is able to peek at the feetlene toes you paid fordragoncucks, ladies and gentlemen
>>531832581that's just roach
>>531832613The leader portrait should be her toes instead of her face
Just go all in with the foot fetishism
>>531832557Pascale is a super brick you want to draw now not later. I'm not convinced about onion and cutting miranda is really bad
>>531830881yooo shes STACKED
>>531832557I tried it. It's dogshit. Like you sacrifice everything good about spellboost for more control.
>>531832708Not even a footfag, but it'd be hilarious if there was an emote where she just flips out of view and show her feet off
>>531832557It's parachans list.
>>531832512>Win condition is hoping your opponent draws no removal by 7pp while you god curveRamp dragon is more consistent than that shit
>>531832742That looks like a mad fun deck anon.
>>531832581Just don't run into haven the deck
>>531832723Onion is great, cutting Miranda is meh, Im running 2 of her and 2 of the witch brew girl because I cant decide for now
>>531832742>the fucking optimal goblin
>>531832742very nice
might be the first steal I've seen here
What do I put in my pure spellboost for heal and wards?
>>531832723>>531832741Lmao I posted that and next match I randomly nutrolled into a 12/12 A&G. The other guy died.
It's probably still bad, but that was cool.
>>531832742damn you both played that giga bad, you could have had lethal 1 round earlier
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Havensisters will be ever get HIM back?
>>531832742Nigga stole my artifact
Can't have shit in Aiolon
Ok but unironically, is Nightmare (non-aggro) a good deck or no
>>531831991literally 9pp medusa, brick
>b-but the fox option is almost never relevant stop coping
It's mathematically impossible to be stuck in emerald.
>>531832742Why didnt he gundam, does it steal it from hand or some shit? Also you would have lost if he wasnt a retard and just made 3 of those ships that deal damage to face.
>>5318323143x Aragavy, cerberus and Charon are all necessary.
Olivie is fine as 2x and Medusa 1x is fine as well.
I wouldn't run Grimnir in that deck because it further bricks Charon super evo but you do you.
>>531832947Yes, and heโll get ward and aura.
>>531832970I swapped to it after the vid, and getting a little salty at the havens.
pretty gud so far
>>531832970top 3 are all playing it what do you think
>>531832983She can remove 1 more than medusa and heals 4 while doing it, she's fine for 9pp.
>>531833061>pure spellboostpure spellboost
>>531833024Only dirt option is 4pp pick heal
>>531833018Actually good point, what was all that miriam shit for if it didn't get him gundam by turn 11
>>531833069>reading comprehensionthey're all playing aggro for fast games
>>531832970>>531833067my cropping needs some work
>lost to abyss as haven because i couldnt draw into salefa, aether or wilbert
>they didnt even show up in my mulligans
welp
>>531832947This is what a real 9pp do nothing looks like, abysstards.
>>531832742You've inspired me to build midrange value portal
>>531833067I've been playing the no2pp midrange variant from that one turbo abyss streamer and it's extremely fun. Been doing well against haven too pic rel
>>531831775
The Abyss and Sword precon decks are the best value, right?
>>5318331962pp follower? or no party as well?
>>531833247you should click the deck that has the cards you would like to play
>>531833112Sagelight can make earth sigil in demand :^)
>skip last turn instad of quitting so opponent can finish me off from board with a hit or two
>retard starts playing cards doing evos and shit
yup, I play this game with literal 12 y.o. I still quit during that evo animation.
>>531833331Same, when they start doing extra shit I just quit
Sorry bud, you just had to hit face
Someone post THE control abysss deck please
And mulligans
>>531833331sometimes they have quests to play minions or evolve
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When do I get to diamond? I gigabricked 12 out of 30 wins
I hate that this game doesn't have a better aggregation for decks than random twitter posts on svwins
Need daily quest: Creampie Eudie 0/10 times
>carnelia beta into doomwright/catapult
this shit is SO AIDS HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP
That full art of the whores is starting to look more and more temptingโฆ
>>531833331You get bonus ranked points for evoing and stuff like that.
>>531833416go do your quests in solo then instead of wasting my time nigger
>>531833389>every tierlist put Sword into tier 2 yesterday>less than 12 hours later they all move it back into tier 1What happened here?
>don't have any new deck to play
>all deck lists unstable
>don't wanna craft anything until there's a consens on what's good
>>531833297>>531833261No 2pp follower. Guarantees any karon post cerb will summon 2 cerb doggies. Karon becomes a mini bootleg cerb. It also has 2 odins which midrange doesn't usually run and honestly it's the most fun deck I've used so far.
Here's the stream of the dude using it if you wanna take a peek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS07pjWVZrQ
>>531833593>not just crafting every cards for your pet craftSoulless
>>531833597am I really gonna baited into crafting 2 ginbricksu
I did not save I figure the vials will restock by next patch doing 1 extra daily a day
>>531833247In pure legendary value where you need copies of both Sword > Haven > Portal > Abyss > Forest > Rune > Dragon
Swords deck is literally perfect and gives you the best legendaries and the best golds. Forests value is almost entirely in its golds and it's mostly a problem of even their best legendaries aren't amazing.
I crafted 2x Filene and 2x Forte for a playset of both.
Was that smart
>>531833597Thanks bro, cerb>charon seems brutal.
>Check the winstreak site
>its all sword again
Idiotproof overpowered garbage class for sissys and fujos
I just know as soon as I spend vials on something Im going to open a ton of it in packs
>got my 3rd legos in deck
>finally stopped bricking draws after 3 days
there is some algo that favors this shit, you won't make me think otherwise
>>531833718Filene is going to be core to any dragon deck until she rotates out. Forte is going to be good until she gets powercreeped
Why is Sword for sissies? It's full of cute girls just like every other craft.
>>531833796I made 3 cerb then immediately got 3 of her in my daily packs over the next few days
>>531833616>your pet craftyou are just saying words not knowing what they mean
>>531833597>already have 6 legendaries of this>still need to craft 1 cerb, 2 gin, 1 karon, 2 odin, 2 olivia, 2 aragay for thisfuck this shit game
Specialized daily "not allowed to quit early" deck
How are swordbabs winning so much?
>>531833838Odin and to a lesser extend Olivia are just good to craft
>nothing but rune and dragon while playign ward haven
>go all the way from ruby to emerald
how do i deal with these fucking blowing up my boards? every time i ask people parroting "skill issue" but no matter what i do or set up they just destroy everything
>>531833796That's why I will never craft three of something until the expansion rotates out.
>>531833813Didn't unga Dragon get limited in SV1?
>>531833895You don't. Ward Haven exists to ruin the meta game by forcing every deck into countering it, and as a consequence, every deck left remaining counters it.
>>531833681Why did Sword get such a good Anathema when all the others suck?
Is it dumb to craft Roaches and Godwood staff right now? I got 2 Titania, 2 Amataz, 3 Aria (no Olivias). Surely the Haven matchup isn't as unwinnable as everyone says, right? What about the 5 mana bronze that deals 4 damage to everything?
>>531833796I have simply made peace with this fact.
>>531834049>Surely the Haven matchup isn't as unwinnable as everyone says, right?its real bad man
>>531834049heaven is 90% unwinnable, but I dont see that many anymore in master diamond , 2 in my last 15 games
>>531833597>Abyss is good bros!>You just need 18 legos!Reminder that pure artifact uses 6, Pure puppets uses 5 and combined Portal uses 9.
>>531833864Is Grimnir really that strong for Sword? Worth the craft? Also why no Yurius or Gildaria?
>>531833796>>531833828Same
It is shamelessly rigged and they won't convince me otherwise
>>531834049You can't win if they out Aether with anything in your deck, and roach doesn't really kill people before 7pp so forest is extremely rare right now
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>>531819893>triple vierthis can't be real
Do you regret your words and deeds yet?
Sword player drops Yurius on curve.
Does your craft scoop?
Is it just me or do the Portal lists all look really bad and clunky? The lists felt cleaner to me in the last set.
>>531834198where's ginsussy
>>531834226They are like cheap version of Mechabeast.
what is stronger atm, rune or portal?
>>531833593sword will always be a safe craft
Just checked Dayan's stream, he's in Diamond so Forest is probably fine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jWZSkfObBs
This dirt looks pretty good ngl
>>531834370I say portal because Orchis, Sylvia, and Beta are hard carry cards
Be warned, it's harder to pilot than Spellboost
>people dooming about roach>open dayan stream>he currently lethals a haven90-10 matchup btw
>>531834457did he post his list?
>>531833864>11 2 5 3holly brickamolly
>no odinmamma mia
>>531834258Calling abyssniggers retarded? Not at all.
Ward seems pretty decent so far
but it'll probably get worse when people get or start running Odin more
>>531834490>LapisOther deck is retard
>>531833597this looks like hot shit
How the fuck you win by skipping 3 turns minimun?
>>531834490Did the opponent play Aether?
tfw won only 22 games grinding since expansion dropped
>>531834490Hovering over the Youtube timeline he changed his list to this ~15 minutes ago.
>>531833990sword prebuilt gives good legendaries because sword does not have bad legendaries. even kageshitsu is finding a place in aggro decks
>>531834647why no godwood? this deck looks cheap
>>531834134grimnir synergizes extremely well with gildaria, which they all run 3 of, in fact albert might be the weakest pick here, odin might just be the better choice
>>531834647Titanal brosโฆ
>>531834490Diamond is as hard as emerald
Once you drop out of it it's hell
>>531834647Hm I don't know about this. I like the classic list with Titania from above a bit better
>>531834647Same list as this winstreak: https://x.com/potwashers/status/1946469808872255864
>>531822967bare doll feet every time
>will never get good art of it>not even sloppa
>>531833796i always just craft 2 of legendaries necessary for a deck. it's usually consistent enough or at least 85% effectiveness.
>>531834258still waiting for my apology over this card
>>531834680It's Tempo Forest.
>>531834680It's not OTK Roach but rather Fairy Forest
>hit face with Fairies, Roach as finisher
>>531834868Oh shit, Iโm sorry.
>>531834876what makes it different with roach? sorry I'm a WBabby
so the gameplan is just control with fairies and chip damage with late game roach finish?
>>531824215Puppet Portal counters Ward Haven. It has better 1-4 and better 7-10
>no good aggro cards, only control slop
>poach Yurius and put him in sword
Why do they hate Abyss so much?
>>531834647I never played Forest and I'm burned out with Havel loses. Should I?
>>531834952thank you. now take off your clothes and get on your knees.
>>531834598You can see in the stream but turn 1 is obviously guaranteed pass. Turn 2 if you have curse party is smooth from there on. If you don't, then turn 2 is also a pass. Turn 3 you have a shitton of tools to use.
If going second coin curse party on turn 1 is very powerful.
>>531835023you are going to lose your first 20 games probably
I've finally started playing Portal and I'm lucky if I draw into one Orchis in a whole match
>>531834680it's not a roach deck
it's just a deck that has roach
>>531834472>Man dismantles Aether board>Needs Lilan for game>Draws her literally one turn too lateoof
>>531834598I guess he's hard mulliganing for Ghastly Soriee so he has a turn 2 play? Maybe depending on Zeuss to help bail him out before Aragavy and Charon come online?
I might try the deck but I don't know if I see the appeal in trying to turn Charon into a "bootleg cerb". The abyss control decks are fairly smooth sailing if you can stabilize around turn ~5 or so with a decent life total. Cutting the 2 drops strikes me as hazardously undermining your ability to keep your head above water in the early game.
>>531835075Just as a learning tax?
>>531834964Roach has almost zero damage without the roaches and is focused entirely on getting 0 cost cards while staying alive to enable the otk. Fairy forest just plays the game normally puts shut on the board pushes some damage to be in range of a kill with Odin.
>>531835134probably, its not about doing roachmath but knowing what cards to keep for what threats, throwing out lily evo early on just for draw and clear vs stuff like sword or abyss and keeping it vs dragon haven portal.
>>531834258While many were wrong, myself included, it wasnโt wrong to think that on reveal. Especially having not seen any of the bronzes or silvers yet, which heavily enable it.
Most tier lists are putting artifact portal in tier 1 right now, but I'm having a bit of trouble with my build. Does anyone have a good decklist for it? Are we still running orchis/cannon?
>>531835114Got some decks?
>>531835258just look at shadowverse-wins website
>>531834258I was wrong about Hochan but I called Exella instantly
>>531835134Not that anon, but yes unfortunately. If anyone ever says a deck is hard to pilot, that means the learning curve is harsh enough that you'll only pick up on certain decisions that come with experience.
>>531834759potwasher is streaming the deck on twitch in English btw. Just saying because there's so many questions about it here right now.
is the marine animal type new to worlds beyond or were there marine cards in original shadowverse?
>>531835530Yes PDR dragon existed back in SV1
>>531834647I've been waiting for this
>>531834490>lapismust be nice playing literal retards
>5th Gingestu
OK OK OK I GOT
I WILL PLAY WITH YOU
>>531832970It's a sapphire deck. I threw in a Cocytus because Ginsetsu isn't a wincon. Graveyard into Eachtarberus is obviously a good way to aim for lethal. Unfortunately pretty much every deck has ways to get around Charon's wards, like the sword legend completely dabs on her. Since everything dies anyway I put in Bellringers so at least I get card draw. The 6pp undead guys are nice when you're ahead but a complete brick otherwise since they do nothing, so unfortunately I cut them. Instead I run a million leggos from 7pp+
Does anyone have the AF list that toby is streaming right now?
Why are so many decks running prim, that card seems like shit.
>>531835530Dragon always had sea creatures and the orca token but the marine trait is new
https://files.catbox.moe/8wb3y5.mp4
One downside to control
>>531835530New as a keyword, but old as a theme. It seems to be token exclusive for some reason
>>531835636He seems to be getting unlucky with opponents now though. Not a single Aggro Abyss when this Forest deck is supposed to counter it.
>Don't even try to roach combo just tempo
>It works
>>531835667Nonja is an insane early game pressure tool.
What is the verdict on Jasper 2pp portal gold? Worth crafting?
>>531835715All additional traits except few (Levin / Mysteria) are token-exclusive right now. Departed is also given to reanimated followers.
What will Otohime do for the fish decks?
>>531835951boardwide storm probably...
>people are cutting Karura from AF lists
hope you guys didn't craft him
>>531835951it'll just summon a bunch of guards on 9pp so you can storm them down, ward up, then genesis next turn
>>531835279This is what I've been running, although disclaimer that I don't have any significant pedigree to really vouch for this list over any other list. I've only been doing dailies so far because I'm sick and don't feel like grinding ranked while coughing up a lung.
Basic notes so far:
>one goal in the early game is to generate and kill a skeleton so that it becomes a charon reanimation target. Soiree and Mino do that.>Ceres fucks with aggro in the early and late game with her healing. They need to waste time swinging at her so that she doesn't keep healing you.>Aragavy is usually the one that better stabilizes the board by nuking the aggro board>Charon is a bit worse at nuking an aggro board, but Orthus can do her random double ping on evo if she gets reanimated, and mino can evo and swing into something big to remove something too. Upon mino's death, the fresh skeleton that she generates replaces her as a ward.>any additional skeletons in my hand are tossed down as extra wards alongside charon.>after that first skeleton, I'm usually saving them as either wards for charon turns, an emergency buddy to super evo alongside olivia, or as something to toss down alongside mukan to be threatening with bane.>Vuella can help provide a surprising power boost if you superevo a spirit when they least expect it.>Don't know if 3 ginsetsu is advisable or not. My gut says 2 is probably enough for the top of the curve.I kind of wish there were more ways to regain health prior to turn 5. I guess bats are an option but I don't like the disruption to Cerberus.
what is the bare minimum spooky scary abyss deck
>>531835951Amalia but instead of 3/2 rush/ward it'll be 2/2 storm/ward
What stream are we watchin bros
That forest deck runs out of gas incredibly fast it does need sticks
>>531836120how i even look for control abyss with moonrunes on youtube and twitter?
A ton of anons would've rage quit out of that match before realizing that the Haven bricked
Will we finally get 2 Deck format tournaments this set?
>>531836000Just like they were cutting Ralmia last set
>>531836124https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PYe2DEKPFI
>>531836217Keep your stream reactions to the stream chat
Which is better and more fun - ward haven or midrange sword?
>>531830889Had the same but slightly opposite experience
>Talk shit about spellboost>Try it out>Oh no I'm bricked>Oh no I'm bricked>Maybe this deck is harder than I thought>Wait nevermind I somehow drew my entire deck, healed, made a huge board and won It's luck based not skill based, but it has enough tools to help you with the luck part as much as possible
>>531836313sword has 10x the diamond master winstreaks that ward haven does, do the math
>>531835663It's pretty ugly
Is an odin playset safe to craft?
Or should I just cope to get it from packs, I have like 14000 vials
>>531834490In his latest video he showed that he has 30 wins 24 losses so far
Not that bad, but definitely not S tier
>>531836120With your only draw being Olivia you absolutely want 3 ginsetsu.
Just mulligan her out for 90% of the matchups.
I am so FUCKING SICK of puppet lancer. Why is this card a fucking 5/4 for 3
>>531835849Even worth cutting phildau over? He's saved me so much and Nonja/Prim in comparison it's hard to actually see the value from them.
I'm confused by the design of the abyss self-damage cards in WB. They almost all burn you for 2 or 3, and a lot of them are high pp cost cards. That's workable in Vengeance decks, but Cygames clearly want Vengeance to stay dead, so if self damage payoffs ever return, they'll be more like Wrath or Sanguine, both of which mostly want 1-damage self-pings on cheap cards and don't work well with large self-pings, especially those on expensive cards.
This means that most of the current self-damage cards will probably be unplayable in the upcoming Valnareik deck, assuming she's going to bring the first self-damage payoff package to the game.
>>531836439If you full send it you can cope with how last set neutral leggos are still used for current set decks
t. olivialess schmuck
>>531836439Safe. Its hands down the best card in the set.
>>531836514the cards themselves having strong effects are the payoff retard now kys
I made ward haven
>it's really boring to play
I made 3 karula and af portal
>karula is being cut and af portal is dropping in power
I made 3 gildaria and swordcraft stuff
>climbed back to diamond from topaz
https://youtu.be/VocBwb5WSb0?si=0wuUafUx8TfuoVWS
Apollo just spent like 800$ just to get the Gilnesse physical card. Why? Do people outside of Japan have a chance in getting that?
>>531836507You use them both, Coachwoman was the one who got cut for Prim. Apollo got cut for Gildaria. Olivia got cut for Odin. 1 Zirc and 1 Magus got cut for Yurius.
>>531836439Nah, he isn't that great. If you aren't sure just craft 2 so you don't get mad when you pull the 3rd copy.
>My own followers killed me
RiP
>I can't play a deck because I don't have all legendaries!
holy mother of poorfag!
>>531836597Darkseal Demon is an almost strictly worse Glade. He'd be a sidegrade even without the self-ping.
Night Fiend is incomprehensibly worse than Hound of War.
Most Abyss self-damage cards aren't good enough to justify the self-damage, which is why only a small portion of them are even at all playable in the first place.
>>531836431>Ralmia still a 3-ofShe won.
>>531836449I'll consider it, but things have been working out well for me so far and I'd need to craft a third. It's not like I NEED Ginsetsu to secure wins. The leggo package in general is pretty good at grinding opponents down from the midgame onward.
>>531836665>Why did a contentfag make content for the game he is making money out ofI wonder...
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Which one should I finish bros
t. topaz retard
>>531836703Meanwhile
>i can't play a deck because i have performance anxiety and need to first see a million list and youtube videoI need to spend just 7k vials to control abyss btw
>have a random mish-mash of legs
liquefy changes are supremely gay
which decks, sword aside, could be made out of this brick?
>>531836439Most of this sets legendary were made to be countered by odin
>>531836201I don't know. That's not a moonrune list. It's something I thought. I guess vaguely it's an adaptation of a season 1 list that someone posted weeks ago.
>>531836753Portal will serve you best, it's the undisputed best craft and is incredibly affordable, Puppets only uses 5 legos(8 with Eudie) and Artifact uses 9.
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Finally did it chickenbwos
>>531836783>have a random mish-mash of legsThat's the best. Now it's easy for you to complete playsets with vials.
>>531836851Literally how...
I'm stuck in ruby/sapphire with topaz lows with the 8pp do nothing chicken......
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Someone help me build a deck with minimal to no crafting I beg
>>531836783You have most of what you need to be a swordnigger.
>got 7/9 core sword legendaries and 2 Yurius and 2 Odin
>picking the sword deck will give me the last two legendaries I need
I guess i'm playing fucking sword now. I wanted to play dragon.
>>531836851just saw someone play chicken and go from 20 hp to 5 because of it
>>531836775I literally watch 5h streams before I play a deck, watched stream recordings before grand prix too. I am such a mess.
>>531836964You should craft golds before leggos
also you want 3 samurai for sure, and I assume you have those
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Reminder that the silvers and bronzes saved abyss this set, so come next set reveals you shouldn't doom until you see all of the cards for your class, anons.
>>531836679Ah, I had grabbed a random deck from shadowverse wins that had only Prim. It's been working out, but I was feeling Phildau's absence. I'll go change to a more sensible pick.
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There's no way I can kill my own deck in time with tempo forest
>Punted a game because I forgot how Yurius worked
Time to kill myself.
What the fuck is going on right now?
how necessary is grimnir to warden haven
>>531837180How will forestKEKs recover from having 1 (uno) bad matchup over the span of 2 sets?
What happens if you put Icarus on an artifact and then fuse it? Does the fusion keep the effect?
>arte portal completely losing to spellboost rune that never got a usable d-climb in a 12+ turn game
grim
>>531830889This
I have no idea how people get above topaz with it
>>531837279There's a difference between a bad matchup and a fuck you matchup
>>531837248not worth crafting but good enough if you have any
>>531837248not at all, its just a card that has ward slapped on it so if you hit auto fill it will end up in the deck, its almost certainly one of the most cuttable cards in the deck and most likely to be removed as the deck gets tuned
>>531837284These niggers kill me on turn 5.
>>531836969>sword in current metalol
>>531837438imagine whining this much about ONE bad matchup
>>531836000Why would they do that?
Swordbros how are we doing this patch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMdEEzv_YwU
>>531837438You are too retarded to play this game anon, sorry.
>>531837106I'm surprised you run draconic strike, I found this card to be very underpowered
>>531837248Very, aether can't clear shit if you don't have grimnir crest
>>531837507which one bad matchup are you talking about, portal or rune?
>>531837438use your evos next time
forte's alt art>>>default autistic face art
>>531837438How do you run out of cards up 3 evos
>>531836120>17 legendaries
>>531837545I'm a ruby shitter but it's been feeling alright. the new cards are pretty damn good but sometimes people just have every board clear imaginable or they're puppet
>>531837565at least I'm whiter than you, handsome and don't gobble up some island monkeyman's cum
>>531837438Stop saving your evos.
Stop using Seria.
How long can we get the free deck?
>>531837582Sword's one bad matchup is Haven.
Against Portal, you just play Yurius and they concede because most of the time on turn 8 they don't have a free Bullet in hand, and even if they do, they just spent most of the turn Bulleting your Yurius, giving you a tempo advantage.
Against Rune, you simply kill them while they jerk off.
>>531837643Why would you lose to puppets of all things? They can't deal with luminous mage
>>531837582Sword players must have the best matchmaking luck. Half the classes are bad matchups for them and they still have the most winstreak reports.
>>531836120This version of abyss is a cool deck, I wish more people played like this instead of disgusting aggro faggotry
>>531836431>cannonwtf i thought you guys said this card s bad
>>531833597this is pretty fun desu i'm fucking up midrange sword with it
>>531826165I made a wardheaven deck, take a guess. Deck is fun but the matches are long as fuck and it doesn't feel like it has a wincon beside putting lapis and using the bird, hoping for anything else just means that the opponent bricked.
Do you NEED Yurius in sword or is he just nice to have
i hate being in ruby with all the dragons and trunes
Has any artist other than mikeboshi posted their full card art on twitter?
I need this for a thing
>>531837986Yurius single-handedly saves the matchup against Portal. All those greedy retards cut Sylvia from their deck and many of them cut Bullet as well, so if you play him against portal on turn 8, you often win the game on the spot. He's also decent in some other matchups, but it's hilarious how good he is against Portal.
>>531837986He's less important than the new anathema bitch but sometimes he wins games by himself
>>531836431>All these 1 offs>1 off Karula>3 puppets but only 2 orchis>2 cannonsWhy
>>531837986It's nice having at least one in a deck just in case you get that perfect scenario but he isn't a must have.
>>531837986in my experience it's not super necessary, although that card has insanely high highs. I have one and it's pretty solid, a lot of time you were kind of floating your 3 mana turn anyways
>>531826653In the main menu, you can hit picrel and see your replays
This specific menu can be seen when you want to share a replay in the park lobby
>>531838186>a lot of time you were kind of floating your 3 mana turn anywaysAre you thinking of Grimnir, anon?
>Dayan: Winstreaking in Diamond
>Parachan: Almost demoted to Topaz
Is Rune the weakest class right now?
I think these three cards are very interesting. They have about the same power level, very comparable utility. it's so hard to decide which to go with. I don't think there is a definitive "best card" among this selection.
>>531838290What list is Dayan playing?
>>531838290>>Parachan: Almost demoted to TopazIt's cause he keeps experimenting with including earth rite bricks in spellboost rune. Fucker should just commit to earth rite if he wants to play it so much. Though I need to thank him for convincing the jp playerbase to include onion lady in their deck LOL.
Are there ever rally for specific unit types or is it always general followers so rally is just graveyard+board?
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This got a 13 game winstreak. Seems whack desu, 2 Roach only
>>531838228yes, my mind kinda blanked
Yurius is definitely not mandatory, probably the least important legendary in the deck
>>531828817it's definitely not as braindead as people suggest and neither are the classes
>>531837438>Sword with an empty board letting aether drop for freeGet better
>>531838041let me know when they post feetlene's full art
i have a task to perform
Show me your best dirt list NOW
>>5318384433 Norman are literally the only non dirt bricks in spellboost
Fucker even not evolved is good
>opponent drops 2 wards
>aggro abyss just dies
now what?
Played a match with an incomplete sword deck. I don't fully get it but it was fun.
>>531838305Noah is objectively correct over Hearts. Zwei isn't comparable because she fills the terrible 5 slot.
Catapult + that new portal gold is so aids holy shit.
>>531838305Synchrounus Hearts is kinda mid because the 6 pp slot is too competetive in Puppet decks. Zwei and Noah are must-have 3x.
why are there so many gay whiteys playing this game?
There's so many Elf lists I don't know what to craft! Odin, Titania, Amataz, some with the Draw cards, some without, some with the new 4pp gold...
Every single one of you faggots downplaying Lilanthim needs to DIE
>>531838730Bro they cost 7pp all together to play. And I like it as a replacement for when I don't get the 5 drop.
>>531838902She's going to go hard once we hit the critical threshold where ward haven is uncommon enough not to hard check it
>>531838816Anything with Amataz was uploaded by Havenkeks trying to sabotage you
>>531838305I think you run Noah AND Zwei, and possibly all 3 in pure puppets, obviously not all at 3. Noah's great for building up big puppet plays with Orchis or your other puppet needs. Zwei is great for clearing out big targets, while also possibly forcing out bad trades. You can also ward up with enhanced puppets, even if 3 defense(probably even less if you're using them to clear board first), and maybe be extra and cheeky and block for a big body. The spell is decent, and doesn't need an evo point to do work, while also giving you a very annoying ward to do deal with, although he doesn't have bane like with Orchis.
Anyway, I'm hoping puppets get a decent 4 drop next set, and maybe another 3 drop.. If we're getting the Omens though, puppet's probably going to get their alt win condition, and Lishenna would fill the 4 slot up nicely...
>>531838443Onion woman is so annoying holy shit. Normally at least my Shieldmaiden would survive William but thanks to Onions it is only Sarissa and then they can Evo William to remove her.
>>531838912They drop catapult at 2/3 so during turn 4/5 can drop the new gold, evo her and engage catapult
>>531838526>what is salefaretard
>>531828817There is a lot of small variance to consider. Unlike shartstone you are making huge changes to board state every turn once Evo comes online. Now with something like "Am I Vs Aggro or Midrange Abyss" even the mulligan becomes a thing of calculating.
>>531839046>meanwhile every other deck except itself gets blown the fuck outebin. just ebin.
>>531815190Where the hell is Proof of Truth