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>>531969134 Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.
-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-4
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/ -The Old Game
>https://undertale.com-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo -The New Game
>https://deltarune.com -The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/>https://deltarune.com/#news>https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9 -Merch
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune -Books
-Undertale Artbook
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk -Legends of Localization - Undertale
>https://pastebin.com/DkZaXMpi -Extra Content
>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com>https://undertale.com/alarmclock>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/ -Undertale/Deltarune Text Dumps & Screenshots
>https://pastebin.com/WG9u1fvH -Undertale Image Collections
>https://pastebin.com/g2JqH6Ba -Booru (newly resurrected, please help tag)
>https://utg.vidya.pics/ -Recommendbin
>https://pastebin.com/fsqd5Sa6 -Writebins
>Current: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZaYVvltQ_Rmf-ggszf1bwmYDW2NUcfpTYU7JzfyMhVE>Old: https://writebin.surge.sh -Comicbin
>https://pastebin.com/UJpBYSEE -Fangamebin
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Maketh waye for thy superioure in alle shippinge
maybe i should animate this dumbass doing a different expression.
Why are her eyes closed all the time?
>>532001829Rouxls's pattern of chasing after divorcees has only made this ancient ship stronger
https://files.catbox.moe/qsdidu.jpg
>>532002003Because she's smiling and happy :)
>>532002009Y'know, I never put together that pattern. King, Queen, and Tenna ARE divorced too.
>friend isn't a new character, it's just spamton
>friend won't show up again, it's just a creepy face in the basement
>friend won't be an important character, it's just ralsei's generic example
>friend won't be in the main story, it's just a side b thing
>friend won't be a main antagonist, that's the knight
>friend won't be the knight, the knight is december
meanwhile; december's appearances in-game.
the knight had a communion with unintelligible laughter and a "transformation"
aka, whoever is in the suit (Dess , Rudy, Asgore or Asriel all possibly, honestly) is basically wearing FRIEND as a symbiote suit
friend outside me
>>532002003To hide her yellow and pink pupils.
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Which goobed do you like more, anons?
The hand clearly goes behind the body so I think I should portray it on the sprite, however neither undertale nor deltarune does so.
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>>532002192>gaster isn't a new character, it's just potato man>gaster won't show up again, it's just a creepy dude in a room>gaster won't be an important character, it's just alphys' predecessor>gaster won't be in the main story, it's just a side b thing>gaster won't be a main antagonist, that's flowey>gaster won't be flowey, flowey is asriel
>>532002517Deltarune Asriel
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>>532002504Left looks better to me
>>532001907Make one with a flowey style tongue
jevil is on the epstein list
Chapter 5 will be about all the ways in which Kris is a bad person as more aspects of their life before (You) come to light ending on the betrayal for the Knight
Chapter 5 will be about me fucking Kris's tight asshole while making out with him
This thread brought to you by PENIS! PENIS!! PENIS!!!
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>>532002961i would, but what exactly is a "flowey-styled tongue"? do explain, please.
>>532002892Thanks of the feedback! I appreciate it. I have this problem where I get fixated on how something "should" be instead of what looks actually cool.
>>532003173>>532003294These are not mutually exclusive
>>532002504You should probably color the other arm that darker shade obscuring their eyes. From what I can tell, these arms are also swinging farther than the official sprites would.
>>532003004So is Dess... And?
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>>532002598You're dishonestly comparing a thing with a mandatory encounter and multiple side route appearances to a 1 in 200 chance easter egg. That's what we call a dishonest argument
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I don't think Friend should be ultimate evil but more of a guy who makes fun of people.
When he lured in children he did nothing bad to them. The kids did it to themselves. And now he will mock Kris for doing it
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>>532003338Tongue out with a wink, used when being maliciously facetious.
>>532002961nevermind, i think i found what you meant.
i'm on it.
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>>532003767comparing an image in a corner to the first character you talk to is also dishonest, but you did just that last thread
>>532003512Yes, your observation is correct. This character is taller than Kris, so the arms are longer. and by, giving the character a shirt, I only have one color to play with if I make the arms swing shorter, they look bad.
>>532004015i thought this was meant to be undyne the undying at first
>>532003952I don't know what ass clown is fucking with the dialogue, it says [CUDDLE CHARA], Frisk can have fun getting boned by Sans for all I care.
>AI repostingShameful charafags. Shamefully it took finding sauce and being pointed to reddit to confirm.
>>532003957ah shit i thought you meant the manic version, not the "tee hee i am just a silly widdle flower who is totally not going to tear your legs off and laugh at you as you try to crawl away in abject horror and agonizing pain :3"
>>532003827KRIS, YOU IDIOT, DO YOU NEED A LASER POINTER OR SOMETHING, THE THING YOU SHOULD GRAB IS RIGHT THERE!!!
why does the angel do this
>>532001815GY0T2
This is actually my captcha.
>>532004776it freeky like dat
>>532004776Angel, when there's the opportunity to penetrate an underage child
Jevil and the Mizzles have similar hats.
>>532004776sometimes it's time to be freaky
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dess managing to get the vessel to say dess after months(?) of isolation with it, now it just adds dess to the loop of words it repeats endlessly.
>Red, AB, spicy, hope, dess, yes
>>532003767Friend hasn't been an "image in a corner" for at least 3 years now. You're hadging a losing bet because you either hate the idea of the character, are too retarded to understand foreshadowing/subtlety, or both.
>human dess is gaining traction despite how blatantly wrong it is
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i lost 15 grand betting on ralsei horse, i'm sending his ass to the glue factory
>>532005576the shoes in her closet being made for hooves wasn't enough to deter people?
>>532005576>>532005815Dessfags being blatantly wrong and missing/ignoring ingame text? Are you surprised?
>>532005815Unfortunately not.
https://youtu.be/DNY2rB6SPOY
This but its the soul fusing with Susie to defeat the final boss
>>532005576Dess fans don't play the game they just consume fanart
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>>532005874epic grap battles of history
I miss Doomer, did he finally become a normie?
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>>532006892bรฅรฅรฅรฅรฅรฅรฅ
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>>532002010not the cungadero
>>532007223CAN YOU STOP
POSTING THE DEMON
AND LET ME BE CLEAR HERE
THE DEMON CHILD
ABSOLUTELY FUCKING STACKED AND CAKED UP!?
The children.
The poor children.
>>532005815Worst part is that might actually make the dynamic interesting, Kris not liking his humanity as something from Dess projecting onto him. That said I've no doubt the artists that make the human undertales/deltarunes aren't the one to tread that concept well, if at all.
trying to make sprites of darkner designs but i don't think i'm good at having them be in-scale with the sprites that'd be in game at all. oh well
>>531999660>doing it at allNo, I do it plenty. Rarely less than once a day. I do it too much due to my clinical nymphomania, and it's something that's out of my control.
Depending on your age, 4 or 5 times a week is fine. It has a net negative effect on your testosterone when you overdo it. It'll also fry your dopamine receptors, and that has a number of negative consequences.
am i too woke for saying that i miss when suselle was the dominant ship, like maybe some kerdly thrown in there but mainly only suselle fanart
>>532007921Kris ain't betraying anybody or else they are the fakest mf ever
>>532008585I'm enjoying the new batch of Krusie stuff more than the chapter 1 and chapter 2 blatant Kris self insert slop at least
>>532008598muh dess, sorry
>>532001660 (OP)>FRIEND appears multiple times but never has a pointed tail>fandom headcanons it with the pointed tailWhy? Is it really so hard to imagine that there's some other shit with the tail that we haven't seen yet?
>>532008774more of the fragments of Kris' real personality coming through are one of my favorite parts in particular
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Seeing this posted as something to do with human Dess theory. I'm not sure how it relates, I see they're saying that Noelle would've broken her horns to make Dess feel more like she belongs but does this relate to anything we know about Noelle or something? I don't remember nothing about Noelle's antlers talked about in-game.
>>532002306Can you post the rest of it?
>>532007770No, be tormented with visions of making the small but dense demon cuddled and happy. Just because she might be vertically challenged doesn't mean she's not deserving of love and help when she needs the top cupboard.
>You WILL eat chocolate with her and you WILL be happy
>>532008848the anon in the previous thread who said it's actually the ice-e costume has made the most convincing argument for its origin that ive seen yet
I'm playing Chapter 3 right now and it's pretty good, people really exaggerate when they say the Zelda parts are boring.
>>532008440Are you guys still discussing about porn? Lol, lmao even.
>>532008987motherfucker do not put childbearing hips on a fucking child.
ITS THAT SIMPLE
>>532009030I was busy and didn't have a chance to respond, so I'm doing it here. I doubt they'll reply at this point, but it's not like I have anything better to do
I hope to God Sans isn't too relevant to the plot in any future Deltarune chapters, but if he is he loses 0.9 HP at some point or otherwise gets BTFO. He was already one of my least favorite Undertale characters, but with every new chapter I understand his appeal in this world where he doesn't have the excuse of timeline shit less and less.
>>532009109this, massive throbbing cocks ONLY
>>532009163Nah, don't worry, it's understandable
>>532009030the zelda parts are fine in a vacuum, but in the context of holding up development for years they should have been cut/heavily altered very early on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-eD9UBrCsw
>>532009338Waltz for the Dead Clown mentioned.
>>532009030the Zelda parts are fun and cool conceptually
games within a game based on an original secret game based on a book series based on an ancient prophecy
>>532008987Unfortunately, I don't think Chara is capable of love
>>532009109>"Child">coughs
>>532008983no i've found it on reddit, see this old thread if you want
https://archived.moe/vg/thread/126103848/
>>532009430*a prophecy itself revised from its original version, a NEO prophecy
>>532009109Or what? Are you going to pop a blood vessel? Cry?
>>532009030>>532009301idc if I sound like a massive pussy but the "true" zelda games startled me so often to the point I was shooting single tears out every time a spooky melody played or something happened suddenly.
Zelda was my "first game" (was like 4 years old and watched my cousin play it) and the concept of an otherwise normal game becoming a real creepypasta creeps the shit out of me so it just worked real well for me I'd say it was worth.
What if Kris removed all the stuff from their side of the room so you wouldn't be able to get a feel for them like how they refuse to eat or play the piano while you're driving
>the roaring knight has 4 fingers
>the cage prophecy has 4 fingers, while the knight prophecy has 5 fingers
Kris and the Knight swapped roles, this is what kris's plan with the knight entailed. Kris was supposed to be the knight and the RK was supposed to be the Cage.
>>532009783lmao kris is a retard
>>532009838What human parts does it have?
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I had an interesting dream yesterday I remember vividly. I was playing Deltarune in what I presume was the final chapter, inside the shelter. Kris was alone in their dark world form and the whole place had an orange tint like the Dreemurr house. The structure was similiar to the library in ch4 except there was a red carpet in the middle with the bookshelves being on left and right sides each, separated by walls. The music in the background was a calm and soothing but sad one from one of the post-apocalyptic playlists I listened to like a week ago.
There were a bunch of scattered or laid down on the floor bookshelves (there were also some books on the floor) and a bunch of black graffiti text which were mostly insane rambling or cryptic, but as I approached the end, one of the scrambled graffitis said "WHO IS KRIS?" (picrel). Then I reached the end of hallway and you could only go left or right. I went left, and there was a lone door on the front side of the wall again. After interacting with it, Kris made a knocking sound, then someone on the other side responded like this: "Is that death on the door?" "..." "But, I don't wanna die yet..."
More dialogue ensued but I can't remember what it said exactly. After that the door unlocked and I went inside, but just as the screen went black, my brain blueballed me and I woke up.
I have no idea what to make of this.
>>532009697I just fucking might.
its warm.
blood flow is sort of encouraged.
>>532009529this chara enjoy 16:9 more than anyone.
>>532009984Kris' original hand probably
>>532009730Ralsei getting jealous about something makes sense but jealous over Susie being good at healing seems weak, that broad's smile is practically the only thing that's keeping him sane at this point
>>532009783I was gonna bring up Toriel noticing but considering the blood stain and the dranks maybe there's actually something to this. Imagine we find them as darkners in the bunker.
If you didn't watch all Toy Story movies you didn't play Deltarune.
>>532010230The Darkner thing is actually a good point, Kris might've had some stuff that would turn into Darkners which would give too much away
>>532009984human soul and parts doesn't mean the parts are human
it's human soul with monster parts
>>532010294This post was written on a scooter with a bowl of cereal nearby
>>532010294I dunno anon I heard that 4 kind of sucks
>>532009730I can't wait to see the final episode.
>>532010384ramb and tenna probably gave away more about him than he might've liked
>>532010294I never watched any movie after 3 but I was a die hard Toy Story fan as a kid, I still love the first movie to death
I cannot tell if Susie and Noelle's scenes are meant to be strained and awkward or if Toby cannot write Yuri to save his live
>>532009838We actually finger counting
>>532008995wait a minute... that clown...
>>532010121Which hand? I keep on seeing this theory and I understand, but I think if it's what he was going for there would be bigger emphasis on one of the hands like pulling out the soul with it, in reality they take it out with both.
>>532010090all my dreams are boring so good for you
>>532009838idk how these elaborate schizoposters do it
>>532010797>Toby continues to reference the fucking clown stickers, this time with GersonWhat did that sticker pack do to him?
Dess is dead, the Knight is just Deltarune's SOMETHING
>>532011187they were actually the blotter sheets that caused the dream
>>532002961>>532003957something like this?
not my greatest work.
if you didn't get coffee enemas you didn't play deltarune
>>532008995Eram being the ICE-E costume makes more sense than FRIEND desu
FRIEND is a cat while ICE-E is a dog
>>532010595I thought they were okay, casual hang-out core
I'm more interested in what happens next chapter when Susie finds out about Noelle's unresolved Kris complex and Noelle finds out Susie's only hanging out with her because of her Dark World mission
>>532006356You are not lifting that, who does bro think he is? Get away from there.
>>532008848the tail is gonna be related to Susie and/or her unrevealed dad
and it will explain why she's so ashamed of her tail. I don't think FRIEND is the tail
if you aren't a male that got impregnated you didn't play deltarune
If you didn't play
play didn't
didn't play
>>532008348Yeah I'd say these are about 10% too big
>>532011268writing azzy like that just makes it look like a different name was in there originally
Chapter 5 will reveal that Adriel and Kris are gay incest lovers
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>>532009783Kris removed all their photos of Dess so you wouldn't figure out that Dess is the knight
>the SOUL possessing kris is in the dialog box making decisions about what to say to susie while the game character shown to have a SOUL inside it at the beginning of every original game section is still moving around separately at the same time
>they both respond to our inputs simultaneously
whose SOUL is that
who walked offscreen
why does it obey our commands, and then not
where is rogue pixel kris now
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>>532011595you play FOR TOO LONG
>>532011716He's a FRAUDSTER
>>532011714Chapter 5 will reveal that Afriel and Kris are gay incest lovers
>>532011397I'd go for a straight-down tongue, that's the way toby tends to do it.
>>532011541Funny thing is I assumed the tail was just a representation of the dark worlds, with each dot representing one of them. There's 11 dots and we've been to 7 dark worlds with 4 chapters left.
That's why it's taking crawl, it's forming over time.
>>532008982This is almost as fucked as Kris cutting gills into himself
>>532008995>>532011447FRIEND and ICE-E complete the CYMK colors
FRIEND is Magenta and Yellow while ICE-E is Cyan
AUslop and swapslop ruined utdr fan content forever
>>532011946it might be the crystals too, like on the menu screen
"the shadow is growing, serpentine
even when the clock turned back the shadow still grew"
This is talking about how crystals are retained over save files.
It could also be the Beads, somehow
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>>532011447ice-e is a mouse, it's a reference to chuck-e-cheese
https://deltarune.fandom.com/wiki/Mouse_Token
>>532010595Heโs terrible at yuri. Just look at the travesty that was Alphys and Undyne.
>>532011945flowey's tongue is sideways both in his nice and nasty version.
but in the nice version, he does not bare his teeth. that's why i made him unteeth that smile.
it would be EASIER and probably nicer to look at, but i am not doing shit because it's easy.
>>532011774I don't think I get what you're talking about? The SOUL being inside the dialogue box while Kris is on-screen, and Kris not moving independently when given the chance?
>>532012060speaking of the shadow crystals, the twisted sword is absolutely going to be a really fucking bad thing. that shit is going to turn kris into a chara-tier psychopath or something.
>>532011268The Knight is Dess just like the Masked Man is Claus.
>>532012267I think the point of the Twisted Sword is for us to realize that "trance town" i.e. giving Kris their full freedom from us, is ALSO a bad thing
and that the true ending needs Kris to Reconcile with Us. Both are needed for love to win, as foreshadowed here
>>532012436yeah, mechanical body, inspired by the chimeras and also a mechanical santa like in the Holiday's house, which conveniently has the same head shape and antlers as the Knight
>>532012167the secret backstage game sections in chapter 3
the one you need oddcontroller to play
every time the game starts, we're shown that there's a soul within the character, within the pixel kris
and we know from chapter 4 snowgrave that the soul physically occupies the dialog box when making choices
but at the end of the final game, when the character comes out into the real world, it still moves around independently despite the fact that if it's the same soul it shouldn't be inside it anymore
it should be inside the dialog box
the character doesn't disappear unless the controller is unplugged or it walks offscreen of its own free will
it responds to our inputs the same way the soul in kris (our soul?) does, except for when it decides it doesn't want to
whose soul is that
where did the controller even come from
what's the deal
what's going on
>>532012128it's to the side in the mouth but it goes straight down vertically, which is how toby does it.
>>532011714agriel and kriz... kissin... an holding handsss...
>>532011948Deer lose their antlers once a year
When they regrow, they eat the skin that used to cover them
>"Fahaha, Kris was always such a prankster..."
Iโm 100% convinced that Kris and Susie could date, get married, fuck, and have 5 kids over the span of 10 years and only then Susie would realize he loves her
Tenna trying to seduce Spamton into revealing his secret!
>>532005815i thought they were discarded or some shit
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>>532012456The key words for Kris-SOUL relations are
>Quiet people piss me off>Forced thing>Your love will become theirs.>Their love will become yours.Kris is practically inert without us, but can be Forced into interacting with the world because they were dumb enough to summon us here
We harness Kris's love and compassion through our own love (by running around town like a maniac and picking all the nice dialogue options, which apparently come from Kris) which will allow that love within Kris to grow as they make connections and are loved in return
On the Weird Route we instead harness Kris's LOVE through our own LOVE, and in doing so allow Kris's LOVE to grow
>>532012806>My stepdad is telling me to do my homework UGGGGH I hate my life I HAVE to cut Susie's fingers off and let the Knight smoke them like cigarettes
the oddcontroller must have been asriel's offbrand controller
the one under kris' bed
why is it pink and yellow, which seems to be associated with spamton and friend
why does it have magical properties
why does it seemingly have something to do with souls
>>532009838am i retarded, i'm counting 3 fingers on the top 2
>>532012806>>532013407She is the drunk who broke up with Goatdad
>>532013459thereโs an extra asriely pile of dust on it
>>532010974you know what, after thinking about it, I suspect maybe it's BOTH of Kris' hands. although that is somehow more farfetched than the initial theory. Who know, honestly? This game's lore sucks and everyone's theories will be wrong (except about Asriel or Rudy being the knight)
>>532012621i did it more in a manner that reflects flowey's manic sardonic smile.
>>532013560Yeah because Asgore sat on all of Kris's stuff and broke it which is why their side of the room is empty
>>532012806Sans needs to call out how Kris is being a selfish prick.
FRIEND has the chances to convert many floweyfags
>>532004493Frisk is hotter than Chara.
>>532013796The funniest part of this is that it's pretty clear anyone supporting Sans or Toriel in this is a selfish prick and demonizing Kris to defend their own immorality
>>532013942into FRIENDfags
>>532013796Sans'll wake up kris at the beginning of chapter 5 and say some cryptic apology for not being there for him last night.
>>532014190if i get pancakes in bed he might be forgiven
>>532014260it'll be waffles
>>532013891Watch friend's full design be some super-charismatic DILF tumblr sexyman
If Ralsei became a real boy and got into college, what would he major in?
>>532014393Veterinary science. Heโd end up working at a shelter and putting unwanted pets down every day
>>532014014Quit projecting your own shitty family experiences. Sans and Toriel didnโt do anything wrong, and Kris and Susie are assholes for freaking out over something so little.
>>532013891Personally I think ERAM will do that if it's the red horn headband
>>532014649ERAM is the knight anon, this dialogue doesn't make sense under any other context
>ywn recruit Toriel's giant box of bagged wine darkner
>>532014190Why should he apologize? Heโs not responsible for Kris.
Why does everyone keep saying the knight is left handed as part of their Dess-Knight theory proofs? Has nobody actually done the fight themselves?
Every woman needs a skeleton toyboy, don't chuds.
>>532014081i don't understand the issue.
looks fine to me.
>>532014892He got distracted by toriel and didn't show up at the church fountain like he was supposed to. There was nobody there to tard-wrangle the knight and people almost got hurt.
>>532015240They said this about the piss beater and it still got hacked. #WaitAndHope
>>532015126I'm not sure what you want me to further elaborate on, you can look at the knight swing its sword with its right hand
https://deltarune.fandom.com/wiki/Pure_Crystal
The shadow purified by the cat
>>532014908>expecting dess knight theories to have strong evidence
Every woman needs to be a skeleton tomboy, donโt chuds.
>Toriel asks Sans about what to do with her child that's been stonewalling her forever and suddenly started staying out late and not returning her calls
>er er er er er er er that's just how teenagers are don't worry about it er er er er er er er
>Toriel thinks "This guy is the first friend I've made in a long time I cannot fuck this up" and has a drink of wine to stay cool, falls completely off the wagon
The evening probably went something like this
>>532015363it seems to use both
https://www.spriters-resource.com/fullview/273312/
>>532014908>>532015363>>532015513Handedness is a completely meaningless metric and half the characters in this game fight with their left hand and swap to their right when the sprite flips.
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goon night /utg/. i am goon to bed now. cya tomorrow.
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what do they talk about....
>>532014818A mystery villain having a mystery plan doesn't necessarily make it the Knight though
I LOVE TENNA!!!!! I LOVE TV!!!!
>>532015714knowing how i was with my older brother kris probably just presses for details on asriel's day/shit he's up to
>>532015706Sleep well, fren!
>>532015792Undertale/Deltarune?
>>532015698this is true. i was looking at the handidness of the undertale characters and they're all over the place
still, the enviromental sprites made a point of depicting the entire holiday family as left handed i believe. so it probably means something, even if that something is a red herring
>>532015375it canโt be Seam, they left it too ambiguous
>>532015714>how was class today>what did you eat for breakfast>whatโs the weather like
>>532014818literally everyone in this game has a hidden secret bullshit agenda. kris, ralsei, gaster, (you), everyone
>>532010090Stop spoiling future chapters Toby
Ralsei is Dess wearing a dessguise
>>532013964I don't think less of you as a person but I do believe it might be time for an eye appointment.
>>532015973Toby if he was a good writer
>>532002293>Me inside FRIEND
>>532016221never to be seen again
>One Mike does all the talking...
Papyrus never shuts the fuck up
>One Mike is the muscles...
Sans' theme is literally called muscle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVE9aEf9B5c
>And one Mike, uh, listens!
Well, I needn't gossip. It's rude to talk about someone who's listening
>>532016096>ice palace rather explicitly referenced in chapter 3>friend inside me referenced by Battat and Jonglerweโre closeโฆ
>>532015706*kisses you on the forehead like a true homie*
>>532016221Molesting Kris
>>532015973>this>that one Asriel and Ralsei comicwe need a third image to complete the holy trinity of โhe would not fucking say thatโ
>>532015734>>532016054Simplest answers anons. What character is going to say "we both have work to do" in chapter 3? The character kris is literally working with at that exact time and place to enact a convoluted plan? Or a new mystery third entity in a game that already has multiple unexplained villains?
>>532016291probably true
this could also apply to mettaton, mad dummy and napstablook
>>532016560well, why did ramb eram and friend need to be seperate characters? tobys trying for some redundancy lately.
>Kris
Dark type
>Susie
Dragon type
>Ralsei
Fairy type
>Noelle
Ice type
>Berdly
Flying type
>Catti
Ghost type
>Jockington
Fighting type
>Asriel
Psychic type
>Dess
Fire type
>>532016743Ramb doesn't know friend/knight is fucking with the game anon, it's just an innocent naive fool.
>kris when you closed the dark fountain, the east classroom turned back into a normal classroom
Was it not a normal classroom before?
does anyone have these 3 savefiles...
normal PACIFIST
SNOWGRAVE
ABORTED SNOWGRAVE (ch2, for the thorn ring)
with all the secrets gotten in all of them...?
I need them for testing and I don't wanna waste time [Making] them
>>532016560The character with a totally different laugh and without any of the reds and oranges ERAM is associated with? Who is easier to beat using the Mantle ERAM gives you? Who would presumably not want its pawn hanging out with secret freaks screaming about freedom and power or giving the player hints about Snowgrave, both of which could derail whatever they're planning?
>>532016824>Fairy typeruined the game
>Kris
inside my tummy
>Susie
inside my tummy
>Ralsei
inside my tummy
>Noelle
inside my tummy
>Berdly
inside my tummy
>Catti
inside my tummy
>Jockington
inside my tummy
>Asriel
inside my tummy
>Dess
dead
yummy!
>>532016221Dess? More like sex
Bros, I need chapter 5 so bad... I have been talking to Noelle chatbots for 2 days
>>532017348may you share them across a file sharing service like catbox
>>532017239she looks like a disney character.
Has Noelle said anything at all about cross country running in either the game or the ARGs
>>532016824Jockington should be normal and Dess fighting
>>532017097Eram literally spawns FRIEND as an attack.
>>532017561no, people just associated a deer character with running
>>532017449Which site do you use that has good Noelle bots?
>>532016619I donโt think Sans Undertale would care.
>>532016824>KrisNormal/Steel
>SusieDragon/Fighting
>RalseiDark/Fire
>NoelleIce
>BerdlyFlying/Electric
>CattiGhost/Psychic
>JockingtonFighting
>AsrielPsychic/Fire
>DessIce/Dark
>>532016824>KrisEdge-Long
>SusieGrail-Long
>RalseiKnock-Long
>NoelleWinter-Long
>BerdlyLantern-Long
>CattiRose-Long
>JockingtonForge-Long
>AsrielMoth-Long
>DessHeart-Long
>>532017237I wonder who is behind this post
>>532017561sheโs part of the cross country club, thereโs a poster for it in the school
>>532017685I use janitor since it's pretty much the most known one, also using deepseek proxy
>>532016824Kris is just normal type
What kind of asshole says heโs fucking your mom during your first meeting with him?
I can't get this fucking fansong out of my head
https://soundcloud.com/sam-chan666/salt-wav
>>532018034sans was based for this
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Aw he aint so bad, I say let him out
The "knight" in chapters 3+4 isn't the real knight, it's just a shadow of the knight that is sends into the dark to do all the dirty work. The real knight was outside the house in chapter 3 and in the closet in chapter 4. Kicking its ass in chapter 3 wouldn't even stop the undyne abduction.
>>532018197nah he's a retard
and more importantly fat
Kralsei will be canon
My uncle works at Royal Sciences LLC
>>532018034it's all fun and games until he actually fucks your mom
>>532018271i think you mean krasriel
>>532018271Nah, it will be Soulsie
Kris will end up with Susie OR be alone
>>532017097It's Seam
>orange smile with fangs, like the mantle>a cat, like the FRIEND blobs>already associated with the mantle>represented in kris's house on asriel's computer>actually wants kris to get the crystals>similar mysterious and slightly taunting attitude to the voice in the game>they/them because they're literally two niggas, digi-seam and plush seam
>>532018034So they fucked the same day they met? Toriel really is a loose slut.
>>532018034Getting sent to another world made Sans way less of an asshole.
>>532018390Suselle is already canon and the cope & seethe from /utg/ when they kiss in chapter 5 will be legendary
>>532017624Spamton and the Mike trio are associated with FRIEND but aren't the Knight
If ERAM is the headband as implied by first meeting it behind the red horn door, it could've been inside the Shelter as implied by you fighting it inside the 8-bit Shelter, which then ties it to FRIEND if that's what all the pointed tail nonsense is about
>>532018390By Soulsie I obviously meant Soulei, rookie typo
>>532016824>Ralsei>Literal darkener>Fairy type
>>532018538made him lose everything TWICE
deserved for being a bitch
>>532018703>But Chuddah, what if ERAM, FRIEND and Gaster are rea-They aren't.
>>532018538Even Susie and Rudy hate him.
>>532018034Turn off your Nvidia overlay you utter retard
>>532018538So he doesnโt hang out with his brother? Thatโs terrible.
>>532019269Sans is an idiot baby himself.
>>532016824Ralsei is a Dark/Fire type with a shitty ability that makes him unable to use Dark or Fire type moves until after he evolves
Guys, could Sans actually be Sans from Undertale?
>>532019245Why would he turn it off? Isn't deltarune hardware intensive?
>Decide to see your dying friends father
>Your friend has a problem with it
Why was Kris ever friends with Noelle?
I'm going to kill myself if Gaster isn't cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrlAE0SFjFw
>>532018625Yep, and Steiner's counterattack will finally drive the Russians out of Berlin as well, my leader.
The Suselle Reich will reign over Europe for 1000 years.
>>532019479Susie broke the platonic friendship by bringing in jelousy into the mix
>>532019438Unironically it seems way more reasonable than the other way around, with how sans smugness seems partially directed toward the player, that he wouldn't have any context about in the Deltarune timeline unless he was a scientist here as well.
>>532019340Acting like WE ALL don't wanna be brutally boned by Sans' glowing blue meat until our anuses are fully prolapsed
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>>532018638Spamton has plenty of knight and bunker shit associated with him.
>>532019479i think she meant it in a "Kris without a SOUL controlling him never visited my father, so why did he suddenly visit him now" kind of way, she was genuinely confused as to why we visited
>>532019640I don't think Susie can be held at fault for Noelle being a bitch anon, if she had it her way she'd be friends with everyone.
>>532019604I'm worried about if we'll ever see Gaster directly, because whatever Toby will do with him has probably been planned for a long time, and it couldn't POSSIBLY meet a decade's worth of speculation and expectation.
https://twitter.com/jojoton56/status/1946975307463876685
>>532019121Middle-aged emo phase Tenna...
>>532020024That's because Kris IS a man and anyone who claims otherwise is retarded
>>532019604There will be no gaster, gaster will be a pseudonym used by three different characters; sans papyrus and friend. The person talking in entry 17 is friend.
>>532019952The fandom just wants to beat the old bastard to death. Their expectations are really warped at this point. Anything canon is better than letting fanon fester any more than it already has
>>532019604Agent Frisk... are we connected?
Listen... to the sound.
It is in... our core now.
>It is?It all cannot be said aloud now.
Remember... 1225.
Kris and... Susie.
Two birds with one stone
>I understandYou are far away...
>>532020024Kris is a cute.
>>532020187I get friend but fuck you mean Sans and Papyrus?
>>532020350Nigga sans literally has an attack called a gaster blater.
>>532020445Ayo whitey shut your racist ass up
>>532020541Dess changed HIS name to desmond
>>532020445That just what sans calls his penis
>>532020423Kris absolutely has at one point tried to eat dess's ear piercing's
>>532014908Bat and ball theory is dess knightโs strongest evidence. I still believe in dualknight myself even if it does no favors for dessknight
>>532020024I mean sure, but people can't really change their subconscious, if they make an attempt to refer to Kris as nonbinary, can one really get mad that "Oh deep down you see them as a man"?
>>532019952Toby has exceeded my expectations with chapters 3 and 4 so I am optimistic that I'll be very happy with whatever he puts out
If he makes the same guys that thought Tenna was a Spamton ripoff and couldn't appreciate Susie tossing yogurt at Kris's face upset then who cares
>Toriel left Kris in the rain and went out to get drunk and never even called him once.
>She had completely forgotten about her son and was having fun with Sans, a complete stranger she'd known for 1-2 days at most.
>This stranger is a total asshole who's done nothing but bully Kris.
>Toriel didn't even make a food for Kris when he got home.
>She even took his stuff out of the fridge to put Sans' fucking ketchup in the fridge.
>She gets fucked so hard and loud that it traumatizes Kris and he almost throws himself out the window.
I didnโt know Toby liked Mom NTR
Getting mad at people for "misgendering" fictional characters is autistic retard behavior
The fictional character won't be sad about it, trust me.
>>532021156suffering builds character
>>532020024Kris is a dude, everyone knows that, and no one can change that. Even people that say otherwise subconsciously think of Krusie and Kriselle as straight ships.
>>532020024That's literally just how it works. No matter how much you may respect pronouns, your monkey brain immediately recognizes a person as "man" or "woman" at a glance, and Kris couldn't be more clearly male.
The only reason people willingly refer to Frisk with they them shit is because they're more blank, but also just a little blob child you're not sure what the fuck is supposed to be.
You canโt spell they or them without he.
>>532020893You mean the beam sword and the ball that looks literally nothing like a baseball?
>>532020893>bat and ball theory>dualknightin baseball you have a pitcher and catcher
bat hits ball into gloved hand
>>532021658>beam swordcome on now, it tapers exactly like a bat before completely changing shape
>>532021546Kris is clearly female though
>>532020024Maybe itโs because human beings are either male or female, and gender theory is revisionist bullshit that was invented by hacks and retarded teens on tumblr.
>>532021723bbt (bat and ball team) chads keep winning
>>532021646You can't spell she or her without he either, luv
>>532022120Thatโs because wรถmen canโt do anything without men.
>>532021819I don't disagree with you but it's stupid and short-sighted to get hung up on the visuals of a shapeshifting weapon wielded by a shapeshifting shadow monster.
It's the people still getting hung up on the horns when the game straight says the knight wears a helmet, going so far as to say the dialogue is the one who is wrong.
>>532020024I mean, yeah? Kris is male name and they use masculine clothes. But there some people that calls Kriselle yuri so whatever
>>532022120this is why women should have penises
>>532021546Psychologist is just a field for people who were too embarrassed to become sociologists
>>532022179the shota sex would be insane....
>>532022232>can't do anything
>>532022251What? Bro those are antlers! Nahhh this blud gotta be kidding. It's obvious Dess is the Knight bc all my favorite X content creators say so like sybau ahh blud just put the fries in the bag atp.
>>532022529why are americans like this?
>>532021071Tenna seeming like a Spamton ripoff at first then rapidly making it clearer and clearer Spamton was the one ripping him off for like four years straight and fooling us was honestly worth the time inbetween chapters
Would you bone this skeleton girl?
>>532022589Just advancing the fat agenda
>>532022621Tenna stole Spamton's nose...
>>532022624You don't stick your dick in crazy
>>532022589Because it makes me laugh how outraged you get
>>532022621The shitty behavior was mutual. Donโt fall for his sob story.
Spamton and Tenna stole each others' body parts, speech patterns and mental illnesses
>>532022767>yeah I shat my pants but that's only because I know you don't like the smell
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This will be Catti's Dark World costume
>>532022750Sheโs not crazy, just lazy.
>>532022891Normalize shitting your pants to piss other people off
>>532022956If she is anything like normal Sans she is crazy
HI HI IM TOBY FOX FOX
THE CREATOR Of UNDERTALEEEEE
YAYYYY
>>532022179Cute
>>532022407That's what I keep saying
>>532021071Tenna seeming like a Spamton ripoff at first then rapidly making it clearer and clearer Tenna was the one stringing him along for like four years straight and being honest with us was honestly worth the time inbetween chapters. Seriously why does anyone believe that beautiful princess disorder ass. They just hate poor people
Rubbing the base of Tenna's antennas and it feels like a scratch behind the ears for him
>>532023046Welp, time to let sans die and fix the timeline so Sans thinks your "dying is gay" joke is still funny in the year 201x
>>532022179Even after 10 years Charisk is still my otp
>>532022891That's right. Gonna cry?
>>532023226>Spamton after not surviving FRIEND pussy
grabbing tenna by the antennas and swinging him around like bowser
>>532023314spamton after not surviving
>>532023498>So long gay Tenna!
>Wing Dings Gaster
>Wait, Don't Go
>W D G
>Wipes, Diaps Guy
tobbertas...
>>532023441>Blue skySay that again
>>532023551Congrats! Your autistic monkey brain understood a joke for the first time ever.
>>532020024I've never really gotten the whole anger over not respecting Kris' pronouns discourse
Like it's pretty clear that Kris is never referred to explicitly as either gender in game so that they can act more easily as a self-insert for the player (even after accounting for the big reveal that Kris is their own person) but on top of that Kris is like clearly unambiguously male in every aspect. If you were to ask any casual player of the game what Kris was they'd say he's male
>>532021546I instinctively read Frisk as male when I first played Undertale but by the time Deltarune came out I had retrained my monkey brain sufficiently to read Kris as a they/them
Monkey brains are pretty pliable honestly
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>>532023046The first time I felt old was when I asked my teenage brother if boys still call each other gay as an insult and he said they don't.
>>532022665Susie is moving on. Just like Noelle, her relationship with Kris was forced and she never felt anything about it.
>>532020024Kris literally never declares any pronouns you casnt disrespect a choice Kris has never made
>>532023640I want you more than any Skies Forever Blue by Toby Fox and Itoki Hana?
>>532023723Does Kris do anything that's more male than what Susie does?
>>532023609This guy works at a daycRe
>>532024131Susie is a bulldagger so she acts more male than most men do.
>>532024131We know susie is transmasc tho
>>532023943>her relationship with Kris was forcedYou cannot say that in good faith when Noelle is the one that reaps the benefits of Susie's character development without contributing to it. And Noelle still thinks most of her interactions with Susie were just a dream
https://youtu.be/6Im1ySGQjKA
we are eating so good
>>532024131Short hair, masculine color scheme
>>532022787Spamtong did not have a brand of his own before meeting Tenna. The default fit Addisons have is pure nothingburger
Tenna "accidentally" dropping an item so he can bend over and present his ass to the whole studio while taking his sweet time to find it...
>>532023906if being faggot is the new spice, then maybe being older than the elder scrolls is not that bad.
>>532024131No but Susie has long hair so she is a girl. Legitimately, if Kris just had longer hair in chapter one and beyond everyone would think that he is a girl.
>>532023723It goes against their ideology to assume someone's gender based on trivial things like "how they look" and "how they act". If you assume for Kris you might as well do it for everyone and then their whole system falls apart. That's why they take it so seriously.
>>532024262So for Susie we know that she's a girl because everybody calls her she/her and for almost no other reason
Then it's not so strange that people see that everybody calls Kris they/them and assume that they're nonbinary, that's also the conclusion I'd draw IRL
Maybe Toby did intend something else but it's a very understandable and straightforward interpretation
>>532022665Despite everything, itโs still just you.
>>532012445https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8ZZmU8orvg
Varik and Kris both have obscured eyes so you can better self insert as them
>>532024394it's kinda funny seeing how many people make it primarily kris vs knight when in reality it's more like
>FOR FUCK'S SAKE KRIS STOP HOLDING BACK>FINE YOU CAN BE THE ITEM BOT, ASSHOLE>RUDE BUSTER>RUDE BUSTER>RUDE BUSTERat this point susie's the knight's rival just because she actually fucking tried
deltarune will have a obligatory sans fight
>>532020423the candy cane earrings are a unique touch
>>532024983Susie IS the knight's rival, the knight is a susie plot line. People who make knight theories about kris and not susie are completely missing the plot.
>>532024643I respect Susie's pronouns because "girl" is a category of person that I recognise as valid and "non-binary" is not.
Would Fave rather look like Jar-Jar Binks or talk like Jar-Jar Binks? They are not allowed to kill themselves.
Your vessel is GONE because Nobody Can Choose Who They Are In This World and you don't get to choose a name or a hairstyle or which leg is wider BUT you do get to choose Kris's gender
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>>532024643Non binary is not something you can assume based on appearance. There is no non-binary look the same way there is a masculine and feminine look, that is the entire point of being non binary.
Non binary does not mean you look/act indeterminate or ambiguous, it means you seperate that from your gender identity.
>>532024984It'll be a sans x papyrus duo fight
Papyrus actually tries and is hard as fuck, harder than the knight even.
Meanwhile sans comically throws the fight, to such an extreme that papyrus starts tilting and we win by default.
Papyrus only warms up to us through chapter interactions and by the end wants to be our friend.
In chapter 5 Jockington will looks Kris straight in the eye and say "This won't, bring her, back, Kris!" moments before Kris doing something really horrible for the plan that Jockington should not know about at all
>>532025570then he'll go grayscale and fucking vanish for saying too much, throwing off the prophecy entirely
>>532025390>is not something you can assume based on appearanceBut it is something you can assume based on pronoun use
>>532025175Ant Tenna is the key to all of this. He's a funnier character than we've ever had before.
>>532024470he's done this multiple times
Why did jockington decide to grow the beard?
>>532025721Queen is funnier
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>>532025794wouldn't say that normally, but the woman creature is funnier than the tv feacher.
>>532025021thanks, she seems like the type to get piercings and i wanted to keep it in theme
>>532025794but tenna is sexier
>>532020423cute dess, would smooch
>>532025721Brad would kill him.
anyone have that one fanart of the Knight that was very "insectoid", cant describe it any other way but it was very chitinous
>>532025729>Oh no! Looks like I dropped something again! I'm such a KLUTZ!>I hope no disgruntled employees take advantage of my PRECARIOUS pose!>I sure do hope no one rams their fingers DIRECTLY into my clothed, PERKY rear!>...>Any time now guys...>*wiggle wiggle*>...>My knees are starting to act up again...please...
>>532026067Noelleโs fault.
>>532025685If someone used those pronouns to identify themselves, yes. Kris doesnt. Using gender neutral terms to someone you are unsure of is not the same as deciding they are gender non binary.
Heartbreaking Fact:
Kris prefers the DmC Dante because the regular DMC Dante is "anime cringe"
tenna is the eggs-husband of darkners
>>532026306>My knees are starting to act up again...please...Always remember to wear kneepads if your job involves you being on your knees for prolong periods of time. You body will be thanking you in the coming decades.
>>532022624I'd rather fuck regular sans than stick my dick near literally an under(her)tail design.
Toby just texted me and said the Chapter 5 intro will be a fully nude Ralsei getting sucked to completion by Noelle
>>532020423My favorite Kris is Black Ice
May Spamton shit in the tub of every poster participating in the reheated bait arguments. AMEN
>>532026306He only started doing it after spamton left and he stopped getting his daily backshots in his office. He's been lonely and needy since then.
>>532026464Do you think Noelle and Toriel and Alphys are unsure about Kris's gender?
If Kris has bravely avoided identifying as male or female for over a decade then they surely have some sort of gender situation
>>532026756you can have her.
>>532026489This is not true. Stop spreading these lies.
>>532024921yes....muffintope
>>532017707Maybe the joke is Sans Deltarune is getting more people to go kill Sans Undertale
>>532026756Unless you've stamped out the gay she will go behind your back as soon as she finds a bigger and stronger mean butch woman
>>532026678This implies those posters actually bathe which is a huge reach, unfortunately
>>532026489kris never played DMC cause it looked like anime cringe, and he only has this opinion because it pisses people off
heartbreaking fact: berdly prefers the demon's souls remake over the original
>>532026746>be a drained and exhausted Shadowguy or Zapper>ready to clock out after helping fill your needy boss's hole for the third time>Tenna buzzes you back into his office for a mandatory bonus round
>>532027218berdly never played demon's souls because it was too hard for him
toriel deserves to have fun and have a friend and there's nothing wrong with her relationship with sans. if you disagree you've probably never experienced the end of a serious long term relationship and the loneliness that comes with it
>>532027218I'm shredding Nerdly's gamer card
Getting quite the scare when Asgore sneezes and accidentally sets the flowers in the vase on the table aflame with fire magic, representing Asgore in court on the count of the disappearance of December Holiday and utilizing both my single online law course and DETERMINATION to abuse save states to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is innocent, congratulating Asgore on a new monthly sales record at Flower King and making sure to reward him properly for all his hard work that evening
Heartbreaking fact. There are humans posting ITT. Some of them are niggers.
Incredible how brave it was for toby to lock the good ending besides a T rank in the guitar hero minigames
>>532027218Berdly would NEVER.
>>532027278>too hard for himNot when you can have like 99 grasses and spices and spam magic
>>532012267I dont deny it could still end up bad for us, but I like my idea that we arent going to equip the twisted sword onto Kris, instead we're grafting it onto noelle's hand because she refuses to unequip the ring but Malius can still "Repair" people directly, so we just use her entirely in the fusion. Even connects with the Kris hand theory
im doing your mom dumb idiot baby. or did you think closing that fountain would stop the stream of sick burns by your father figure
Why doesn't Kris work at the diner like Catti to help pay the bills? Is it because they're fat, selfish and stupid?
This game would be a lot better if Spamton was a regular party member that replaced Ralsei after chapter 2.
>>532027218Nah, he prefers CRTs to HD tv, he'd always stand by the original.
>>532027242i wish i got paid to satisfy him
>>532027465Berdly would be a 99 Magic fag spamming Firestorm
>>532027741If I need to be mean, I will be mean to Noelle. You're extremely unappealing, Ralsei. The more needy you are, the more I hate you
>>532027659This game would be better if we left this little rat creature at the bottom of his fucking dumpster where he belongs
>>532018182I wanna lay my head between Chara's boobs and gush so fucking much. I'm also imagining feeling the bump of a wedding ring as her fingers run through my hair and its too much.
>>532027659>>532027954This game would be better if their pipis scene was a 3 hour long mandatory sex scene with cuddling and aftercare instead.
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i want the next thread to be better.
we have so much to discuss, so much to hype for.
such a waste of potential joy.
Pressurewash her doevaries with my rapenog
>>532028159Gaster ahh post
>>532027954This game would be better if after we kill Spamton in the snowgrave route we can bring his corpse to Tenna to see his reaction
>>532026805Yes, they dont really know anything about Kris this is significant to the plot
My male role model is Lancer.
>>532028314is this part of a larger image?
>>532028362We already know his reaction, he'll just spray it in foam again
>>532028362>ew gross i stepped on some sort ofโฆ sexy creature
>>532027741Stuffing the soul in ralsei
>>532028445what a coincidence
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>>532027684He doesnt he was just being contrarian to shit on Noelles room while he renamed Krismas
Smooth, silky hair! Oh yeah!
>>532028425Can you elaborate?
Papyrus
stop watching parkour videos Papyrus
they're edited, Papyrus, even the real stunts they did weren't necessarily completed in one take
just walk down the stairs properly, Papyrus
PAPYRUS YOUR ANKLES
>>532016147For you, maybe.
>>532027404It's true isn't it. It's hard to believe but it's true
>>532028746She looks like she could pop out 4 new princes in 30 minutes flat
>>532028449There is a larger image but I can't find the one with this face
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=9262427&tags=noelle_holiday+nude+leash
Telling Ralsei "Good. Keep smiling." isnt actually bad, smiling to give other people hope isn't exactly a bad thing to do and saying that ralsei NEVER shows their true emotions is just a lie
>>532028986That is a sexy little girl
>>532027404oh you jokester!
you can fool me and tell me there are women here but DARKNERS?!
you must be off your rockers!
where does kris's knife go when he enters the dark world
>Then again, YOU'RE supposed to equip Ribbons...
Stupid lizard bitch, I'm glad you're throwing a tantrum over realizing you're not a hero. You just couldn't swallow your pride, could you? Suffer.
Berdly deserves Kris.
Gamers deserve love.
When Asriel shows up he will find out what Kris has been doing behind his back and completely lose his patience with them as years and years of grievances all come out at once and it will be extremely upsetting
>>532026539I dont get how people can hate Noelle for "throwing Kris under the bus" and not sympathize with her for having complex feelings about her best friend
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>>532029896ah a good brotherly fist fight that goes a bit too far with alot of mutual hate and blood spat each way
good with popcorn
>>532023830Creamgrave Route
>>532026808yes MORE FAT DEER
>>532029897You would think she'd be honest then, and say what she thinks about it. Instead she lies when Susie is involved, and Susie is not happy about her answer.
>>532029427The same person who drew this will throw a tantrum if you call Kris a dude.
>>532029897People are illiterate, so noelle either loves kris and wants to spend more time together or she hates kris and doesnt like him at all, no nuance whatsoever
Which Undertale character would have the most interesting talk with their Deltarune counterpart?
>>532029897Noelle treats kris like piss when it comes to grabbing a set of dino tiddies.
normally i wouldn't care but it comes off as very duplicitous when we are supposed to act like this is our childhood friend.
>>532030421Deltarune Asgore listening to all the warcrimes Undertale Asgore committed.
>>532030421papyrus alone in the fucking dark talking to NOTHING
>>532030421Asriel or Asgore
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>>532030680They're coming out of the pipes.
>>532030680>ICE-E is Krisโ tulpa
>>532017348where are they...?
utg im going into battle, and i need your strongest pippins
Kris prefers Dess over Noelle because Dess would never betray them. She will always be their favorite person to be beaten up by. Noelle doesn't seem to care about her friendship with Kris.
>>532030950You can't handle my strongest pippins, traveler.
Noelle stinkee stop licking me god fucking dammit
>>532031075Kris was the one that killed their friendship. If Kris never stayed distant from Noelle and regularly went over to the Holiday's home, he would've had a doefriend by the start of the school year
>>532027042i am of the opinion noelle doesn't give a shit whether you're male, female or a cage with human soul and parts - her sexuality is strictly based on "how bad do they scare me?" with a secondary characteristic of "how good are they at comforting me afterwards?"
if you are the scariest motherfucker around (who can also pat her head and rub her tail afterwards) then some dino woman she has to PRESUME is in perma-scary mode to be interested in won't even register on her radar
>>532030378Tennafags are just as retarded by that metric.
any character with some sort of backstory to another male character is immediately put into retarded cartoons where they flirt with eachother like no man flirts.
>*kabedon*>supamaton-kun . . .>d-daisuki~>WHAT THE [[FridayNightFunkin]] ARE YOU EVE N TRYING TO [Voice] ???
>>532031193noeckenstein...
>>532030967My favorite type of these is when frisk is a literal child. Like 5-ish years old and the monsters have no idea how young that is for a human so they're giving the same speech htat's in game all while frisk is thinking of pudding cups and trains.
>>532017758this list is ass
im not even gonna engage with most of it, but like jockington is NOTHING like a forge long
his chief principle is sky because it's the one shaped most like a Sportsball
>>532030510Its not like Susie just asked if they were friends. Susie asked if there was anything romantic about the ferris wheel rides Noelle took with the only person in the world (other than her dad) she can be honest with that always sits at the front of her mind. Saying Kris and her were forced is Noelle lying to herself more than it is to Susie.
Who would win in a fight, you are you are now or you 10 years ago?
>>532030421Alphys Undertale realizing how much power she has compare to her counterpart and actively sabotaging any plans to break the barrier.
>>532031224Artist name? Art is cute but image searches give nothing.
>>532031606I like Ralsei with some curls
>>532020024>Same faggot that shills for Charisk non-binary yuri.Hypocrite.
>>532031532imagine if asriel went into the dark world and he ends up in ralsei's outfit instead of the goth emo hyperdeath look everyone's been drawing him in
i fully expect this to happen if toby ever depicts it at some point
>>532030862https://files.catbox.moe/lmil3z.rar
Only chapter2 files
>>532031186Kris does regularly go over. Noelle complains that Kris doesnt go every single day like it used to be.
>>532031678The power of curly boys shines within you.
>>532030028AAAIIIEEE WHAT DOES IT MEAN
>>532031357Frisk only survives because of the playerโs intervention. Otherwise he wouldโve put something in his mouth he wasnโt supposed to, or fallen to death.
Call me a hater but Undertale has WAY better music than Deltarune.
Quite literally every song in Undertale is good (except Megalovania)
>>532031915smaller OST so less changes for Toby to make a dud
>>532031819They suit his sensitive nature
>>532031306Spamtenna rough trade gay sex...
>>532030950What are you fight for?
What bands does dess listen to?
Ralsei using his scarf to wield one of Susie's axes
>>532032127Something a fake poser punk would listen to
>>532017758>Jockington>Forge LongJockington is based, but like, not in that way. He's clearly a moon-long, as he is defined by Not Knowing. Also because the baseball moon.
>>532008987>Feed her ALL the chocolate.
>>532032127Acid Bath
Buckethead
Dead Kennedy's
Carnivore
Kyuss
>>532031998A fluffy, curly boy...
>>532031907>Otherwise he wouldโve put something in his mouth he wasnโt supposed toWhere have I heard this before...
I think I figured out the exact way in which Dess was a bad influence to Kris: It's not that she was violent or anything, she was just a edgy teenager full of Irony and Doubt and Kris took her word as gospel to try and impress her
Kris is invited to sing at church but doesn't, why? Because Dess thinks church and especially singing at church is lame as fuck, what better way to look cooler than the dorky nice boy Asriel than to refuse?
Kris detests anime? Because Dess thinks anime is dorky shit, what better way to be cooler than the nerdy fiery magician girl loving Asriel in her eyes than to think the same?
Kris has no hobbies? Because Dess thinks sports (forced upon her by her parents) are lame, what better way to be even cooler than the lame Asriel with all his trophies and friends?
>>532032289Why is it whenever we do something good itโs Kris who did it, but when we do something bad itโs all our fault?
>>532032289The Soul undoing everything Kris did in Snowgrave and transporting with the menu interface and mindbreaking Noelle is more impressive than anything Kris has ever done.
>>532032289>(being bright is not a feat)Red Buster and Dual Heal are only possible because of us
My headcanon is a younger Kris used to crawl through the Holidays vents like an immersive sim
>>532032441Was this the reason she followed the cat?
>>532020024it's entertaining scrolling down and seeing almost all the replies saying "yeah, but so what???" then seeing posts like this that actually highlight the problem
because sure, you can make a big show of how you use the right pronouns or whatever, but at the end of the day you'll still come out with thoughts and biases that can only result from your original presumptions that forever remain in your mind no matter how hard you might try to scrub them out
and that's fine, nothing wrong with that, but when you get ideological idiots trying to stake people over 'misgendering' a character when they too have an answer as to what they think was on kris' birth certificate (and it wasn't non-binary), then it becomes a problem
>>532032441Dess thinks JoJo is really cool
>>532032586one has to wonder why the vents are so damn large
>>532031608I downloaded it on Oct 21 2022 but I can't tell where I even got it, it's in my Kuroba folder but it's not on b4k
Can't find it using Tumblr search either
So no clue I'm afraid
>>532032441Its hilarious she does all this but enjoys the massive wealth of her landlord parents that own half the town.
>>532020024>twatter linkI ain't readinf that shit nigga, just say what it is without giving the fucker any views
>>532032854That's why she's a fake punk
>>532032289the self-hatred is practically leaping out of this meme
also a massive skill issue, going off of that ralsei comment
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>>532032295With very voluminous, thick ringlets!
>>532032871"A lot of you subconsciously see Kris as a man and it shows sometimes"
>>532032684Why canโt we just let people have their own headcanons and move on? If people want the KFC gang to be male, female, or non binary, then thatโs fine. I have no problem with what people personally believe. I just think itโs lame when people feel the need to police an entire fanbase and throw tantrums because people donโt use the right pronouns.
>Kris you liked killing all those zelda enemies you sick fuck!
So what? Kris is an incredibly kind and forgiving person for not killing her bully in chapter 1 where she could easily get away with it but by befriending her instead. Kris is allowed to kill a few goombas
>>532032289Whenever I see the powershitting format I assume it's being made by high-functioning black/Mexican autists. It was bad enough when they tried to apply it to the Knight.
Kris wouldn't even have any friends if not for the soul's existence.
>>532020024What the FUCK do any of these words MEAN???
>>532033238Why is it always Naotroons?
>>532020024People need to suffer more
>>532033238I can't believe Toby would support this kind of ship. I suggest we kill him.
>>532033238But the person playing can be female or trans...do they assume only men like snowgrave? Misandry mask off
>>532020024I'm fully conscious that kris is a male
>>532031357Frisk mustโve escaped from Pre-K, or chased after a butterfly, and ended up falling into the Underground.
>>532033402NO ONE TOLD ME GASTER HAS MILKERS
>>532020024We're not even posting twitter screencaps anymore. Just full on links. You chose to click that shit and read stupid shit from a literal who. /utg/ has fallen
>>532029757Women scare me
>>532032734>one has to wonder why the vents are so damn largeI thought it was pretty obviously spelled out.
>>532033238funny to think we've got enough women in these threads alone to prove 'heteronormative' wrong
frankly i don't know what's the problem with just saying "it's fucked up doing that shit to noelle"
>>532032781That's a shame. A tumblr acc with no search results usually meant they deleted.
https://files.catbox.moe/kve8y0.png
>>532032402I read that as master raceโฆ
>>532033467It's less the assumption that the player is male and more the belief that masculinity in and of itself is "toxic" and therefore enforcing "heteronormativity". Or that traditional gender roles whether it's a straight or gay relationship is considered "regressive".
>>532032269Wtf nobody ever told me Dess had good music taste
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61izc8wBx-E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3kJ53_9KCo
Why couldnt flowey just grow up and leave the underground?
>>532029143Ralsei would never do this. Well he would but thats after his chapter 5 arc
>>532033383According to a quick search, AMAB means Assigned Male At Birth, meaning that someoneโs biological sex is male.
>>532033402why'd no one ever tell me gaster had those??? i'm all aboard the plaster ship now
>>532033654I searched for "frisk suzy noelle undertale", pictures only, and it wasn't among the results, but I'm not a tumblr search pro
>>532029143Weird route Spamton playing dead until we find Tennaโs closet is still the funniest thing Tobyโs done in a while.
>>532030967hell yeah, we're doing wheelchair accessible memes now
>>532033654Nollee get out of there
>>532033662Oh
>>532033662stop osting this shit
KISSING my TV husband because he's just too damn cute!
>>532033909THAT NOT HOW IT WORK
The pronoun debate is dumb because in Japan, first and third person pronouns don't strictly define one's gender in the first place. Some men use "watashi" and some women use "boku/ore" regardless of their biological sex or gender identity.
tl;dr Kris is a they/them, their gender is whogivesashit
>>532033704Do they think Femininity is inherently good, and Toxic Femininity doesnโt exist?
>>532033992he is very kissable
>>532032289>but there is a guy who did so it's out shared featI have literally never heard that retarded argument anywhere.
>>532032529It's a mystery
>>532034105tldr kris is open to interpretation and somehow this means that he/she/they absolutely exclusively must be non-binary to validate the mentally ill
>>532034105Who asked you?
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>>532034053don't care.
its canon now.
>>532034179Toxic femininity is when bitches wear too much makeup and donโt make me a sandwich
>>532033238Some players are children so Noelle would be the major in this made up scenario.
>>532034326I would love to see Toby give the weird route a happier ending than the normal route. I want to see how people would cope with that
>>532033383it means we're due for another war and these retards need to be drafted first.
>>532034338You can just say its self-insert autism, all that this shit.
>>532034151This reminds me of that comic where Frisk started murdering hikers and dropping them into the underground to provide them with souls.
>>532033238>It's heteronormative because some players are male and gross because some players are adultsSo isn't it also homo because some players are girls, and some players (let's be real here, most players) are underage?
https://files.catbox.moe/kyhj86.jpeg
making kris take a dirty selfie and send it to their friends
>>532034643>*pretty impressive right
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>>532034812>Link?Wrong game
The KKK announces it doesn't really have a problem with monsters, really.
>>532034758Cute idea, but do Susie and Ralsei even own phones?
>>532033238It must be so tiring being one of these creatures.
>>532034995They chilled out when they saw Napstablook.
>>532034643There was an angel at the entrance, checking off a guest list.
Anon wasn't on it, and was ushered to the exit.
His heart sank.
He was breathless.
>>532034995but they're angelist
Frisk and Kris are both deaf and blind
>>532035169tell that to the welts on my precious little red head
>>532034995Turns out all you need to cure racism is Toriels pie
>>532034179Toxic femininity and masculinity dont exist
>>532035026It gets sent to Asriel
Asriel then moves back home
>>532035346No, it definitely does, but not in the way the gender crowd has co-opted it to attempt to justify their actions
>>532034179Well sorta, they usually just call toxic femininity "internalized misogyny" because even when it's being toxic in a feminine way it's enforcing toxic masculinity.
Don't get me wrong, there IS a point to be made about the way Hollywood assumes feminism is "make women act like men" which is a reductive way to write "strong women" and assumes femininity is a weakness. It's why to this day SOL anime about girls doing cute things is still considered "childish" in the west, and why credit card companies specifically crack down on anime porn. Though a lot of internet culture warriors take it too far and start saying shit that doesn't make sense to the average human being.
>>532033896It got patched, if you do the Weird Route Spamton stays dead. The puppetscarf is his corpse.
>>532035721aaaaaaaa.... gay <3
Deltarune
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZvIMcwA6sE
>>532033238I usually like Stuffed Alpaca's videos because they're just chill character analysis that doesn't lean into absurd schizotheory but I have her blocked on xwitter/bluesky because of shit like this. It's extremely obvious she grew up on Tumblr culture and uses all their lingo.
can you guys go back to posting spamtenna or fat women please
>>532035821berdly, they make controllers for... people like you
>>532035385would monster-kris do the hellboy and shave down their horns?
>>532035385our ideal world...
need me some fanfics of the SOUL acting like Kris' clingy and manipulative partner
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>>532036085Monster-Kris is blessed/cursed with nubs for horns and just hides them instead of shaving
>>532036265undertale if it were goood
>>532036172i want some fanfics of the SOUL acting like Kris' wise older brother giving him life advice
>>532036259what would their equivalent of the headband be? a beanie to hide their horns/ears?
>>532036265Never make a dark world on pride month
>>532036373That works, there was even a comic about that idea somewhere.
>>532036234Why not start a conversation about fave or something in the game that interests you a lot?
>>532035670>It got patched, if you do the Weird Route Spamton stays dead. The puppetscarf is his corpse.Oh shitttttt. Can I at least collect the pippis now or am I locked out of that too on the weird route?
>>532036772you can always collect the pipis
Was Tenna a virgin before he met Spamton?
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>>532036772You can't collect the pipis as long as you have either the dealmakers or puppet scarf in your inv
>>532036645literally no one in these threads wants to talk about the game
there is nothing to talk about
>>532031907>Frisk only [headcanon]
>>532035385I would rapegrave that blue shota
>>532034338I agree that Kris' biological gender and identity are "up to interpretation" but objectively they are only ever referred to with they/them pronouns. I don't care if people use he/she either by instinct or because it's their headcanon but if you were meant to pick and choose which pronouns to use you would've had the option at the start of the game.
I don't get why it's that complicated for both sides to know that pronouns =/= gender, japanese media do this shit a lot like Yamato from One Piece is very obviously a girl but uses he/him pronouns.
>>532035670If you updated your game you bricked your save.
>there are still people who deny that the Vessel will show up in the plot
>>532036172I can't write any more Kris x Vessel/Soul if I do I will start to feel guilty for not writing anything else. I still haven't written any Krisriel since I came back. I am not ok
the new chapters killed more discussion than it created
>>532036932tenna was a closeted gay se he either was a virgin or only had sex with women once or twice
>>532037339Well what would you like to write? Actually enjoying the process of writing is very important
>>532037339write dess x vessel, challenge yourself
>>532036614>>532037439I can't believe toriel assmogged these zoomers
>>532036963I see theorizing and people making OC and stuff every day, maybe it's not happening right now, and I know we joke about this a lot but the thread does talk about the game, sometimes...
>>532036265This is canon as soon as chapter 5 comes out
>>532037623Kinda looks like Yoshi in that third one
faves most bodacious booty
This will be Ralsei in chapter 5
>>532037023As deranged as this post is, it's probably closest to what Toby intended.
It's really hypocritical that these same tumblr refugees that would say "he/him lesbians are valid!" would assume that Kris MUST be nb by default because of they/them pronouns. It's really telling most of them assume they/them must be Kris's gender identity when it's equally as possible they're genderless or a hermaphrodite.
>>532037743Susie look out!!!
>>532037893>*Ralsei I am going to need you to get smaller>*Ralsei I know you can shapeshift get short again
>>532037023Because pronouns are intrinsically tied to gender in the english language, of which the developer is no matter how badly he wishes he was Japanese. It never had to be the huge ordeal it is. It's like the Warriors of Light in FF1; They're their own people outside of your control at times, but their gender has never been set in stone. It's always open to interpretation. I don't see how it's different here (because it isn't). Kris is whatever gender/race you want him/her/them to be and it's nothing more or less than that. The people pushing this whole "kris HAS TO BE non-binary" and "you HAVE TO say they/them" ideology are deeply mentally unwell and are trying to use a collection of pixels to affirm their delusions. This is why people push back so hard.
Does Kris have a scar? Mine's pretty ugly so i dont take out my soul that often
https://files.catbox.moe/7esxlw.jpg
>>532024654>Despite everything, itโs still just you.Impressive how a line that was used to instill hope and determination in UT would feel so devastating if it was written into DR.
>>532038021No one is COMING to help Kris
>>532037989Those nips look sensitive.
>>532037982>If you don't accept my headcanon as fact and let me confuse discussion by calling a character a different gender than they are in-game you are mentally unwell
>>532037442I have no inspiration, and no drive when I don't feel there are people who would enjoy the work.
>>532037449I only write male/male because that's what I like. I find women gross.
>>532037384I think the problem is we don't have enough people actually interested in the game to outnumber all the off-topicfags and tourist /v/ermin
Chapter 2 happened during lockdown so we had an influx of people interested in the game so big that there was no place at all for the attentionwhores
>>532037978>Ralsei can you shapeshift into shota mode again hahahahahahahaha... ha>>532038047Ok
>>532037023I don't know enough about One Piece to say if you should classify him as a he/him woman or a trans man with odd fashion choices (the wiki page I'm looking at does say it goes beyond pronouns) but Japanese grammar is far too different from English grammar for this argument
I think you can only reasonably interpret Kris's gender as ambiguous if you say that the pronouns aren't diegetic at all, you can't eat your cake and have it too
>>532038047Fine, if I have to
>>532037982Considering Toby has successfully made the game into a harem eroge, I have no reason to doubt his Japaneseness.
>>532038146>and no drive when I don't feel there are people who would enjoy the work.I don't know how to help with that but I wish you good luck regardless.
Would you enjoy it if the Soul is forced into a flower in the next chapter and YOU get the flowey experience for half the chapter?
https://x.com/Spel0nca/status/1946973619449450932
>>532038146>I only write male/maleAsgore X Kris?
>>532037989idk
post circumcision scar for comparison
>>532031380>>532032221Forge isn't just about being a good craftsman, business moghul, freemason or nuclear physicist. Being a sportsman who undertakes in physical transformation of his body and becomes one with the game (THE DUNK) is peak-Forge material. Sure, other choices in the list were a bit stretched, mainly Knock for Ralsei cuz Heart fit Dess better (thinking pre-Dessappearance here), but I fully stand behind Jockington as Forge.
>>532037989I concur with
>>532038085You should let me stimulate them regularly until you start lactating
>>532038331Now that you mention it yes, yes I would enjoy that
>>532038180>I don't know enough about One Piece to say if you should classify him as a he/him woman or a trans maniirc, havent seen one piece but have seen this debate enough times now, Yamato uses he/him because she has a male character as a role model to her, and she looks up to him to the point she wants to BE him. Its not "I wanna be a male" its "I wanna be this guy", she's perfectly fine being a woman and doesnt hide or change that outside the pronoun
I wanna say an actual one piece fan could give a better answer but knowing that crowd overlaps with twitter and discord a lot more than other fandoms they probably have a worse understanding of this part of her character
>>532038331I would certainly be a change of pace.
>>532017758>Kris Edge-LongAppropriate, but as half of a Corrivality with (You). Kris is immortal but only for so long as (You) play the game, and (You) can only play the game through Kris; however, both of your natures are antagonistic to each other.
>Susie Grail-LongNo. The only things that lends her to this are her eating habits, which aren't even that Grail. Susie is Heart more than anything else - perseveres against all comers, compassionate, rails against fate for both the preservation of the world AND those she cares about, and chooses Eternity.
>Ralsei Knock-LongRalsei is literally as opposed to Knock as is possible. Knock is the opening of boundaries and the rejection of ignorance - to become the highway between God and Man. Ralsei, even as far as Chapter 4 when he finally admits that he knows more than anyone else, STILL seeks to hide information. Ralsei is Moon.
>Noelle Winter-LongYeah.
>Berdly Lantern-LongLol, lmao
Berdly is explicitly not a Know. He would like to be one, but his is not the nature of Knowing secrets. He's honestly probably the equivalent of a Cultist Simulator Pawn (2 lantern 1 edge), which feels insulting to him but I can't in good faith ascribe him a greater principle.
>Catti Rose-LongCatty may actually be a Rose-Long, like, let the FRIENDposters cook, but Catti is not Rose in the slightest. Catti is Scale in the same way that an archaeologist is Scale.
>Jockington Forge-LongJockington is Moon because Jockington is in the business of Not Knowing (but like, in a different way from >he doesn't know) and the Moon is a Baseball.
>Asriel Moth-LongActually, yes, so long as you accept that Flowey is still Asriel. The only argument away from Asriel as Moth-Long is that he was very Sky/Heart when he went onto the surface to deliver Chara's corpse, and that he MAY be in a Corrivality with (You) (though that is a bit too one-sided to be the case imo)
>Dess Heart-LongShe's a Winter-Long. This is classic Ivory Dove.
Deltarune will release tomorrow. Change my mind
Big muscle Ralsei massage with happy ending
>>532038417I... I've thought of a few scenarios around it, but I can't do that to Asgore. I like Kris x Asriel, but I just can't see something between Kris and Asgore.
Undyne became gay because she looked up to gerson so much and since gerson liked women she decided she should like women as well.
>>532038776Undyne is a silly fishy
Tyrant Toriel
Fiend Papyrus
Haunt Sans
Jirae Undyne
Fairy Alphys
Night Mettaton
Tyrant Asgore
Foul Flowey
Deity Asriel
Entity Chara
>>532038146Have you considered just telling the thread you are open for business and requesting green ideas and just selecting the idea you like the most?
>>532038670Optimus Prime is a symbol of masculinity that not even the most valiant of men from history could even hope to achieve.
Says Fave.
>>532038670I feel this but I want to kiss the cute tv man
>>532038619But Ralsei doesn't have muscles. Unless it's that one AU where he swapped with Susie. The art of him fucking Kris was pretty OK, even though I had to retranslate it
>>532033573Someone edit noelle into this pic
You can't kiss a television.
Good night, anons. Have a lovely day!
>>532038898matador papyrus but he throws out sukundas
>>532038970Well you wouldn't be able to see his muscles underneath his baggy clothing he wears.
>>532039019I have done that and I will do it again.
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>>532037023Just use a mod to change kris's pronouns
>>532038180I'm saying Kris's actual sex and gender identity are ambiguous(it's not canonically confirmed) but their pronouns based on ingame text hasn't been anything but they/them.
Now in my opinion, it would be cool if we had a fully ambiguous character where everyone uses he/she/they interchangeably but in this case the pronouns are completely unambiguous.
I'm not saying this in a "ree don't misgender this fictional character" way. I just think it's equally dumb to assume you're meant to pick and choose which pronouns to use for Kris as it is to assume Kris must be nonbinary because of they/them pronouns.
Toby hasn't spoken about his intent for why Kris is a they/them so for all we know it could simply be a quirky stylistic choice, or just vibes.
>>532039039Night night, sleep well
>>532038903But then people will be disappointed when I don't take their idea :(
I've done that in the past and generally I don't get anything that really strikes a chord with me. I don't know what inspires me, but it isn't as common as I would like. Like that one greentext of Dess with the mindless Vessel trapped in the void was something I really liked the idea of but I don't have anything to do for it that wasn't already covered.
>>532038021>Still just you, Kris.
>>532039239>Like that one greentext of Dess with the mindless Vessel trapped in the void
>>532038478Forge's nature is power, change, and pragmatism. The nature of Sports is vastly more Edge than Forge (Edge is the principle of conflict and cunning - the glory of battle and the worthy triumphing over their foes). By your angle, he'd be more Edge than Forge.
However, Secret Histories as a setting runs on puns - as an example scales (the tools for measurement) have the principle of Scale in Book of Hours.
In Deltarune Chapter 2, the Moon is a Baseball.
Ergo, Sports is Moon.
>>532038552Japanese doesn't use pronouns this way so this was a translation choice, I think it's important to establish that first. And then you gotta wonder why they made that choice
The wiki page says he insists that he's a son rather than a daughter, and that other characters don't refer to him as female after a first meeting, and that he chooses to go to a male bath house over a female one
I don't know if this is accurate as presented without withheld counterexamples yadda yadda but that looks to me like it crosses the line into "yeah I'm a man for real" even if it's caused by being an Oden kinnie
>>532039103Ralsei is a chubby boye
>>532038420Happy birthday to Sunny
>>532039185Come chapter 5 Deltarune will have Tobytron 5000, a scanning program that checks if you have any "problematic" mods installed and instantly bricks all your save files if you do.
>>532039474I will mod that out
>>532036960I understand now
>>532039436His ticker stopped before the release of the new chapters, he counts no more.
If Toby had his way, Kris would have NO pronouns whatosever like how it was in Chapter 1.
>>532039529It's an official Tobysoft patented DRM. Game won't run without it.
>>532037212Notably the Sam cages are easily escapable as long as you can move on another axis.
I wonder if Toby is actually cooking a 3D battle box gimmick for the final boss
>>532039208This argument is still retarded though. People (and I say this loosely because I hardly consider the pronoun crowd "people" since there's not much going on up top) haven't been using "they/them" to identify themselves for any longer than the last decade or so. Prior to this, it has been for characters where the gender simply isn't specified. The fact that Kris specifically is somehow an exception to this standard practice is absurd.
>>532039692The ultimate Kris put down. Not even existing enough to get pronouns...
>>532039793Delta Rune Mafia you'll be wearing concrete shoes
>>532038085>>532038497They ain't. I bet it's this mf fault somehow. If Kris hates him, I should too, right???
>>532038439Sorry, I'm proud cheese maker
Ever since moving in with Mettaton, TV time only shows explicit sexual content 24/7 and all employees must wear overly revealing clothing.
what's the phenomenon called where stuff like kris's gender gets way more engagement than actual plotlines
>>532039474A dev who makes the game gets bricked because you wanted to use a he/him pronouns mod would be absolutely deranged, like cmon
>>532039892post lack of circumcision scar
>>532039940political brainrot
tbdesu the idea of Kris just saying one day "fuck you, I go by they/them now" as an act of teenage rebellion and the entire town just going "alright sweaty we'll respect that" is funny.
Like they don't identify as nonbinary, they just want attention. But alphabet people are so normalized in tobysoft games that Kris doesn't get treated any differently so it makes them even more pissed.
When we finally see Kris's eyes (outside of in darkness when we only see the red glow when they're using the knife), will Kris have a Gaster gash scar on the eyes?
>>532039940cultural collapse
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>>532039892>Hearth_Shaped_Object detected>Aussie accentYOINK!
>>532040018Holy shit it's Cuptain's cousin, Handtain
>>532039892You can be made sensitive with the regular stimulation. Also seconding
>>532039993
>>532038583Beutiful effort post. I agree, my initial post was more just a quick attempt to throw the main Cultist Sim aspects onto the characters, and Long was definetly going too far in some cases.
>RalseiAgreed on the Moon read to an extent, but I think his teleportation abilities lend him some Knock credentials as well. One musn't be a philosophical follower of an aspect to use it.
>BerdlyYeah, true. Lantern was the closest aspect for him, but it should have been Lantern Pawn who might become Lantern Adept.
>Catty as ScaleHmm, I dunno. Sure, Long is too far, but I think Rose is correct aspect. She's like Deep Mysteries Something Something reader who has some knowladge of the Fucine cults and Sisterhood of the Tripple Knot by osmosis, but only knows the lore in terms of events and mythos, hence Rose.
>Dess as Winter LongHuh? You mean before disappearance? Because she seems to me like true Heart enjoyer - rebeling against Winter, wanting to live her life to the fullest, rocking out with music (though that can also give Sky affectations). She strikes me like a similar person to Susie, who, yeah, definetly is Heart.
Why does Kris need the soul?
>>532035959A prince and his knight...
>>532039969I'm joking. But also I don't personally know Toby and I cannot categorically state that Toby is of sound mind. Who is to say that he won't go off his rocker while finishing Deltarune.
>>532039208I think that if the characters in the game are literally referring to Kris as they/them and this isn't Tricky Tony pulling the wool over our eyes then the obvious interpretation is that Kris is nonbinary, just like the obvious interpretation for people calling Berdly he/him is that Berdly is male. It's technically an assumption but it's an extremely reasonable assumption.
>for all we know it could simply be a quirky stylistic choice, or just vibesIn that case I'd say the pronouns are non-diegetic and gender != pronouns doesn't really come into it.
>>532039768>Prior to this, it has been for characters where the gender simply isn't specifiedDo you have examples of this? AFAIK singular they for definite people is only 10-20 years old even in the ambiguous sense, classical singular they is only for general statements and hypotheticals and such.
>>532040423they physically cannot dodge or seal fountains without it
toby made kris they/them to give the culture warring subhuman cultists something to fixate on
it is inevitable they will fixate on something, this way at least that something isn't plot-relevant and minimally poisons discussions about the rest of the game
>>532039910why did toby make Alphys so sexy?
>>532040423To enter and seal dark worlds.
Without it, they'd rapidly turn to stone, a mere object now out of place...
I don't really get it bros, wouldn't Kris die too?
>>532040536You mean like deflowering symbolism?
>>532040423For their lady's painting.
>>532040670This faggot CANNOT keep playing the victim
>>532040670Bro what are you doing, get up and fight!
>>532040670guys, i don't think this town likes uncolored people...
>>532040670Holy OOC Susie.
>>532040423It contains their compassion and trying to live without it clearly hasn't worked out considering their entire social life is in tatters
>>532040670what drives someone to hate themself this much? i mean jesus two parts of (You) getting your ass beat without even doing anything, culminating in kris and susie dooming the whole fucking world to the roaring? that's on another level
I think all sides getting mad at eachother is reductive, we all need to try and have empathy for others and improve the world collectively, even if it means putting aside your views to work with someone you fundamentally disagree with
BECAUSE WITHOUT LOVE, IT CAN'T BE SEEN
WITHOUT LOVE, THE TRUTH CANNOT BE SEEN
>>532037893After is canon already do Kralseifags even play the game?
>>532041009They probably self-insert as Kris and hate US for possessing him
>>532040102>YOINKI'm not putting him back for a while now though. It will hurt like a kiss from a truck
>>532039993>>532040285... I might be a slut, but I'm not a whore
Kris sold their SOUL and now has to make do with us.
>>532039940lack of parental love
another gaster image added to the filter
>>532040670Susie is not this strong, at least in the light world.
>>532040670Something about this infuriates me. The idea that Kris or Susie could kill us while we have our vessel is someone's sick inverted power fantasy.
>>532037970What a piece of shit. Confessions are supposed to be private
>>532041039>WITHOUT LOVE, IT CAN'T BE SEENAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD
>>532037893It's kind of disturbing to acknowledge that Ralsei is already genuinely taller than Kris, but least they're still physically stronger than him I guess.
Walking underground underground underground
>>532038420Burn in hell, dirty sister killer
>>532040423Their soulless body turns into ICE-E if it goes too long without it
>>532041039sorry we live in a world where any legitimate attempt at improving it leads to half the population assuming you're actually trying to make it worse and proceed to support the exact opposite action as a practically unconscious reflex
nothing can be done
>>532037970>"forgive" is in quotesI can't believe Father Alvin never actually forgave Asriel for his many sins
>>532040670the SOUL literally cannot die during a cutscene, it'd just refuse
More battat music videos
https://x.com/artbyramen/status/1946962735322763475
>>532040648I do hope we get some more insight to Kris' ambitions in chapter 5, because I'd like to know what sort of plan involves opening and closing dark worlds without necessarily causing the roaring.
>>532041262>milk makes bones strong>dogs eat milk bones>cats drink milkcanon theory
>>532041465That is some strong plastic to hold together even with that deformation
>>532041074Circling back to those twitteroids who hate soul for raping Noelle....
Bitch, YOU ARE the soul
>>532041465how can anyone be into this it looks like a blue turd
>>532040670DT is genuine tranny fanfiction that never shouldโve gotten as big as it.
>>532041465This is one of those images that goes a tad too far for me to be able to say "I have a new fetish now."
Does anyone have more UTDR characters drawn as anime horsegirls?
REMEMBER,
CREATOR...
IN THIS
WORLD
NO ONE CAN
KILL YOU
IN A WAY
THAT MATTERS.
>>532041669I thought this was some edgy fan-animation, not Deltatraveler, haha. Those devs are pozzed out the ass.
>>532040670For me it's the creator specifying that isn't even on a Weird Route.
That's it, I'm hitting the Crackpot Realist pipe:
>FRIEND
Creepypasta bait by Tobby, less relevant to the plot than Undertale Gaster Gooners
>Gaster
Not in the game or at most a minor character that takes Soul home and that's it
>ARAM
Not even a character. The mantle we fight is either just personified mantle or personification of the eventual Shelter Boss.
>>532041465Fake object fuckers replying to this
>>532040670What a bunch of frauds. Fight me in a real fight and not a cutscene. See what happens.
>>532041891>that isn't even on a Weird Routefucking really??? jesus christ man
>>532041230Their religion has no confession
>>532039208We don't know Kris's pronouns because Kris doesn't tell anyone
The pronouns other people call you aren't necessarily your pronouns
>>532039208>I'm saying Kris's actual sex and gender identity are ambiguous(it's not canonically confirmed) but their pronouns based on ingame text hasn't been anything but they/them.This is like arguing that because a character is only shown as a shadowy figure they MUST be a shadowman. Sure, sometimes that is the case, but its by no means the majority. Even if it doesnt make sense you have to sacrifice logic to mantain ambiguity for the audience.
>>532040670This is laughable like those fake game screenshots people make.
>>532041093Will you reconsider being a whore if I say please? Please show us?
>>532041669>>532041817First NTR lodge, now this. I bet it isn't too bad but you fucks aren't making a good case for it
>>532040423He agreed to the terms of service.
>YOU WILL ACCEPT EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS FROM NOW ON
>>532041093C'mon anon, you wouldn't be the first if that makes it any better
and certainly not the last either
>>532029596The knife is friend
>Another Kris gender debate
I curse all your bloodlines to one thousand plagues
>>532041936it's like they never played true pacifist
when forced into an unwinnable scenario, Determination will literally REFUSE to let you die
and what's more unwinnable than a cutscene
>>532042086No, itโs really bad, Anon. I donโt say that lightly either. Itโs one of the worst fangames in terms of writing and it isnโt even close.
>>532042003Originally it was supposed to be, but apparently not necessarily now.
>>532042086Why should I respect the devs that don't even respect the most basic piece of information about Deltarune
>THEN THE WORLD WAS COVERED IN DARKNESS.Being rabidly anti-Soul doesn't make me want to consume your fanfiction
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>>532041891>it's not even on weird routeat first i was gonna say "harsh, but fair beatdown" if it was weird route but now i'm just confused, why?
>>532041465His corrupting gluttonous influence reached the Watercoolers. No one is safe.
>>532042291why are biological males like this?
>>532041207Everytime anyone says something like the soul is inarguably a bad person or the soul would lose to kris and susie in any scenario, I toss out everything they say on the grounds they just hate people who humor the weird route and want them to not get what they want instead of taking the story seriously. This is their way of reaching out of the screen to punch the people they dont like, and its so obvious
janny stop deleting /v/ threads, NOW
>>532036932what do u think
>>532042549StopKillingGames needs at least 15 threads and deltarune might kill one of them, please understand
>>532008982Both female and male reindeer lose their antlers at specific points of the year. One counter argument to the idea that Noelle isnโt the second hero based on the shadow shown below the text is that she may lose her antlers upon taking on the role or with the changing of the seasons.
MORE undertale au because yes!
>>532042549You WILL have another Twitter thread and you WILL like it.
>>532042561AAAAAaaahhhhhhh saved.
I need to find a fic of their first time.
Why do people STILL think Gaster called Spamton on the phone when it was obviously FRIEND?
I'm seeing "Gaster created old men toxic yaoi" in a post-ch3+4 fandom, like he did any of that. Bitch he barely even knows Spamton exists.
they need to make a pen and pencil set featuring kris's weapons that would be cute
>>532042457I wish the faggots could do something productive with their time like drawing genderbend noelle stuff but no, they won't even do that. All of this vitriol and it's wasted on making trash for a few reddit updoots.
>>532042805Garbage noise was associated with Gaster more than FRIEND to be fair, although I'm pretty sure FRIEND is an agent of his at this rate.
>>532042645Interesting, that could be something.
>>532040670It is much more fun to portray the almighty god that is the player losing because we ALL know the player is going to win in the end.
There is certainly unnecessary player hate in the deltarune fandom, people relate to Kris so they hate the player despite the player being them, but fun animations WILL usually have the player lose because it is a fun what if and sometimes cooler than, "The literal god of this world says no and wins".
>>532042828Mysterious image but good
>>532042435>"SOUL BAD!">"What do you me-">"SOUL BAD!!!"
>>532042805Fandom canโt break away from the idea of Gaster as the ultimate mcMastermind. Sureeeee the Roaring Knight is in the Prophecy and also keeps opening fountains but Gaster has to be ordering them around, right? Sure, FRIEND is in the prophecy and ominous and keeps showing up in the worst places but thatโs only cuz theyโre following Gasterโs orders!
>>532042937>drawing genderbend noelleWhy would they do that when it's clear the Deltatraveler mods are insecure AGP Suselle fags that use Noelle to self-insert.
>>532042435Susie is a fucking retard.
>>532042421how in the world could you play even just the fucking normal route and think 'oh yeah if kris still acts like that around you in front of susie then she will naturally hate you so much SHE ACTUALLY TRIES TO BITE YOUR FACE OFF'
a massive point of the story so far is that susie's her own damn person who makes her own damn decisions, why would she blindly follow kris to such a ridiculous extent??
and that's not even getting into the implications of getting killed in a cutscene in the fucking normal route
some fucking people man
>>532040670Hum? The hell is this ultra strong Susie? Where is this from?
What is Kris throwing there?
>>532036932Nips are saying Tenna talks like Spamton took his virginity and ran away.
Yet another instance of the Japanese language being less subtle about gayness than the English translation. Except in THIS case, the JP is the localization. Toby is next-level weeb.
>>532042957If these trannies was the player to "lose" so bad, they should take a note from the halloween hack and stop fucking playing. They're responsible for being the player.
>>532043004>Sure, FRIEND is in the prophecy and ominous and keeps showing up in the worst places but thatโs only cuz theyโre following Gasterโs orders!Well yeah, Friend has the same naming format as the Gaster stuff in the intro and narration sequences. It's not a huge stretch to assume there's something going on there.
>>532041207we don't even know the powers that Goners have, we've never fought one and the closest we've got is Gaster's absurdly high stats and mysterygo
and I doubt the vessel has the constitution to not have a hole punched through it when struck, shit's made of wet clay
>>532041658I am pretty sure it is a joke
>>532042957But I thought Kris wasnโt a self insertโฆ
>>532043229I don't think they want the player to lose, but it makes a cooler animation than the player just oneshotting everything
>>532027006Very eldritch and incomprehensible to kill someone's alternate timeline self because their actions from a different timeline pissed you off.
>>532043070something something combatting gender norms. and more importantly denying the "heteronormativity" of snowgrave. but you're right. I gave them too much credit by forgetting they're spineless losers like Noelle.
>>532042949>>532042805>garbage noise is mus_smile>smileit's not stupid to have assumed it was gaster from what we knew at the time of chapter 2 (in fact I'd say it would've been stupid to deny it was gaster back then) but I'm thinking now that mus_smile is actually a calling card of FRIEND and its use in Entry 17 was related to Gaster coming into contact with it
I JUST
GOT HERE
WHO THE FUCK
IS SPAMTON
WHAT DO YOU MEAN
"WHAT HAVE I DONE"
WHY IS
EVERYONE
MAD AT ME
WHAT DID
I DO
>>532043179I think toby just likes having information that's more overt in different translations so people have to look at both. for some reason
>>532043401They can't self-insert as an "evil" person (even though we have no choice in possessing that Emo fag), so they self-insert as Kris instead
>>532043179why are the japs such faggots?
>>532042957They are both shit.
>>532043179>Tenna talks like Spamton took his virginity and ran away.thats really sad
>>532043492more like Soul Radguy
>does kickflip
the princess gloves fit kris the best
susie.... I remember you're ideas
>>532043545>hooooooooh, penosu, deska!
>>532043483That would track, considering the entry is about going as dark as possible, and we always see FRIEND in the deepest, darkest areas possible (besides Chapter 3 for some reason).
>>532043401The mentally ill teens are going to relate more to the mentally ill teen than the disembodied heart that is supposed to represent them
more news at 7?
I really want to see some more serious or evil ralsei, I considered it cringe in chapter 1 but now I am tired of his antics
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>>532043483Undertale and Deltarune are not connected. They are not the same universe. "Gaster" is the only link and we still don't have conducive proof within the game itself of the voice being him.
>>532043402thing is, replacing a one-sided fight on the player's side with a one-sided fight on the other side still leaves you with a boring one-sided fight
this fight animation someone posted earlier
>>532024394 manages to portray the player fighting better but still not making it hilariously one-sided, and that made for an entertaining spectacle
having susie ragdoll (You) around until she gets bored of doing it and chomps your face off isn't entertaining, it's practically reaching ragebait levels by making it out like you're a bad person who needs killing no matter what and can't lift a single finger to defend yourself
>>532043571They ripped eachothers virginities off and now they're both mad
>image limit reachedFUCK YOOOOOU
>>532043234(We) are Gasterโs only agent
Without the soul, Kris dies of cardiac arrest.
>>532043705Ive said this before but im not a big fan of ralsei but I love when he's serious like post chapter 2 where he's trying to enjoy himself and keep people happy despite knowing he's going to "die"
I know what the SOUL really wants, dammit! It wants me to kill my-motherfucking-self. That's why it fucks with me! That's why it gave me a fucked up ass life! Well the jokes on it, I ain't giving that motherfucking the satisfaction!
>>532043805post it in the next thread, i want to see what it was
>>532040851@blookndied on xitter, good stuff
>>532043705I like Ralsei because he is actually always serious beneath his facade.
>>532043923I don't have anything, it was just more spamtenna fan art
make a new pls I have art to post
motherfucker won't be arriving...
I hate Ralsei because he's a liar telling me to close my eyes. I will NEVER forgive him for trying to mislead me, and I hope he suffers for his deceit instead of just being honest to me
>>532043964Even when he's stuttering like a fucking idiot?
>>532040419>RalsIt is true that one doesn't need to be of a principle to use it, but an inescapable part of being Long is having a supernatural glut of a given principle make up your being. Calling Ralsei a Knock-Long because he is a master of the wisdom of Nyctodromy is foolish, especially because Moon is also a part of Nyctodromy. Also, Castle Town is Ys, meaning that Ralsei (its prince) is either Moon or Rose and Moon fits him better.
>CattyNo, Catty was the Rose one, Catti is Scale. This was a very hard one to pin down. Catti as a character is far more Dionysian than Apollonian (source: she goes off vibes and is extremely wicca/teen witch, which lends itself to Triple-Mother neopaganism, which is the real world thing that the Sisterhood of the Triple-Knot is based off of), which naturally lends her to the principles of the Wood-Hours and away from the principles of the Glory. Rose is the Apollonian Moth: Horizon-Sight. The constant seeking of whatever is over the next hill, optimism, far-sightedness, wanderlust. That sort of thing. It is certainly the most passionate Apollonian principle, but one that is explicitly stated to be Apollonian - and she isn't really optimistic or far-sighted or prone to travel.
Of the Wood Principles, it's hard to find one that properly fits her. She definitely isn't Grail, and seems too put-together and in control of herself for Moth. Nectar is a possibility, but a lot of Nectar is in the literal connection to nature (damn you, Weather Factory, for not making money and commerce Nectar!) which Catti doesn't have. This basically just leaves Heart and Scale. She isn't really Heart. However, Scale is the Principle of old, bured, scary things. Truths buried away (both physically and by time), things from before man, the literal deep earth, that sort of stuff. Her interests tie very closely to this first aspect of Scale (in the same way that an archaeologist ties very closely to it).
You could argue Knock too though.
>cont
>>532043402>than the player just oneshotting everythingthen just have them beat the shit out of an AFK player while wondering why it can't die (you can't kill the SOUL in a cutscene/out of battle)
>>532040670>SOUL shatters>reassambles as SOUL angelic final formAaaaaaaahhhhh thanks for freeing me, dweebs
*Guardian Remix plays as I force a battle screen in MY art style/image*
Didya think I'd be at a standard power level after TWO games :)
>>532017237I need more DR vore thanks
>>532044062Heโs dead fucking serious even when heโs stuttering, which is funny
i love image limit, it means my horde of underrune images is getting FAT
>>532044090>DessYeah. I'm specifically rating her based on the Dessappearance, because the Dessappearance is so important to the plot and all this stuff that through it she has by far the best case to be an actual real Long (as opposed to everyone else save Undertale Asriel, who are mortal).
Dess is defined by the fact that she is gone. There are things left in the world to remember her by, and people that remember her, but she is gone. This leads to one of two things: Winter (Endings; Silence; literally, the cold) or Moon (Lethal secrets; Obfuscation; literally, deep waters and the moon). Dess very clearly has the cold tied to her; however, there is also the Song in the Deep, which in the context of Secret Histories would be the Bells of Ys, which are Rose and Moon (but more Moon here, because it's song OF the deep - deep waters of the lake - not ACROSS the deep). It is unclear what this song is related to - it could be more findher stuff, it could not be. If you take the path that Dess is in some way dead (which if Deltarune mirrors Omori, would be likely) or fated to be dead (you must let go of her), then Winter is true, and she is a ghoul that is remembered by the Ivory Dove and the world in the same way that Miss Naenia was. If Dess is merely lost, then she is Moon. I lean towards Winter.
Also, depending on which way Toby takes the nature of the Dark, Ralsei may end up being more Scale (or even, as fucked up as it sounds, Lantern) than Moon. Titans might also end up as Lantern somehow even though they're the most Scale thing in the game.
The thread reaches its end... Perhaps now we will finally be free...
I can't post the Spamtom rape comic without the new thread, SAD!
>>532044153>The player is copying sans special attack by simply not taking their turn when near death, and the fun gang have to realize in real time how much the world truly revolves around their actions>In reality this is completely accidental and the player left to take a shit, he still has a revivemint to heal when he gets back
>>532044362i wouldn't count on it, sweetheart.
>>532044153>Susie: Why?โฆ WHY WONโT YOU DIE!?>Soul: What was that? Sorry, I had to step away to piss.
Let's all have sex before the thread ends
>>532044513>People like you,>Just piss .
>>532044598*whips out dick*
Hungry CRT-headed gameshow host with a metabolism that's slowed with age? Where can I feed that?
>>532041496Technically it's not a cutscene but a "light world battle", my only explanation for zero fighting back under this context is that the player is AFK.
>>532044629Now the flowers will grow!
Reminder that
>We WILL get the Pure Crystal
>We WILL defy the Prophecy
>We WILL save Dess
>Ralsei WILL become a real boy
>We WILL become everyone's friend
>The Dark Worlds WILL stay accessable
>We WILL get a happy ending
And no force in existance can stop us.
>>532044860SOUL supremacy
>>532044860>We WILL keep the doe with us>We WILL beat krisno matter how much people want to draw shit like the player getting beaten to death, we will get the last laugh at the end of it all in canon
>>532044860I WILL kill all the lightnerds and cover the whole world in the dark
>>532044860just like how you saved asriel, right?
he didn't turn back into a flower, right?
>>532044598*unwhips dick*
>>532031613I do like the through-line of Noelle just breaking any system she touches into a horrible nightmare.
>>532044729In the one before she punches (You) out of the battle UI
>>532043498The anons were fighting again, uncle Gaster.
>>532021948The truth is here.
>>532033662Oh.
keep posting, it keeps the twitter people away.
>>532040670That would be pretty thematic
Imagine a scene where the vessel has been defaced, then we, determined, get up.