Total Azerotica Victory Edition

Epoch in 6 days

>Upcoming Servers
Project Epoch - https://www.project-epoch.net (Vanilla+, TBC as design base and Wrath client) - Launch date 26th of July
WotLK5Man - https://wotlk5.com/ August 8th

>Released Servers
Azerotica - https://azerotica.net
Ascension - https://ascension.gg/en
Mistblade 3 (Sheilun) - https://stormforge.gg/en (MOP Progressive)
Netherwing - https://stormforge.gg/en (TBC Progressive)
Tauri - https://tauriwow.com (MoP, pre-patch and WoD areas in near future)
Turtle WoW - https://turtle-wow.org (Vanilla+)
Warmane - https://www.warmane.com/ (TBC, WOTLK, MoP)
Chromiecraft - https://www.chromiecraft.com/en/ (PVE, progressive)

>Guilds
<Empty Sun Isolation> - Epoch, crossfaction, whisper Notma
<Full Moon Company> - Turtle, crossfaction, whisper anyone

>Epoch
Addons:
https://warperia.com/project-epoch-addons/
https://project-epoch-wow.fandom.com/wiki/AddOns

>Turtle
Vanilla client enhancements - https://turtle-wow.fandom.com/wiki/Client_Fixes_and_Tweaks (most servers forbid them)
Curated list of addons that should work in Turtle - https://turtle-wow.fandom.com/wiki/Addons
Misc - https://database.turtle-wow.org | https://talents.turtle-wow.org | https://twow.link/classchanges | https://turtle-timer.vercel.app

>Mods, Tutorials and /wpsg/ Creations
https://pastebin.com/4Awe3bxX

>Previous Thread
>>531980930

rape

Property of Darkjib

Stop shilling Epoch on /v/ the server can only handle 5000 players and will crash non-stop if even one more tries to login

Pochie niggas
Lagosian niggas
Azerotician niggas

POCHIE

Troondle? Dead and buried im afraid.

>>532039224

>>532039476
Turtlesisters.....

>>532039313
Epoch is just a pvp griefing server anyway

>>532039610
just as all of TBC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvf6NGT90c4

Dwarf girls :3

Yeah Sloppoch is finished

>AI generated quests
>AI generated dungeons
>AI generated enemies
>only TWO new dungeons
>no Helves or Draenei (WHY???)
>discord moderators scrounging the thread going full Big Brother and banning anyone using their First Amendment Rights
>shilling the thread non-stop with their AI, trying to spread false rumors about Turtle WoW
>stole Warmode and Transmog from Turtle
>stole Human Hunter from Turtle
>2x health values on EVERY mob (have fun leveling as a Priest LOL!)
>only shaman race is ugly fucking dwarfs
>autistic German developers who are BIG FANS of Mythic+ and raid bosses with 500.000.000.000 HP and oneshot mechanics
>put in OP as fuck Bladestorm as the only Wrath ability because the German Autist Dev mains dwarf warrior
>meanwhile deleted Penance because quote "it's too OP"
>no cash shop on launch
>server can't even handle 2000 players, 25.000 are expected on launch day, 100% crash because the German Autist cheaped out
>paid Youtubers to shill their broken ass AI programmed slop server
>Horde will be 80% busted OP oneshot Undead Ret Paladins
>constantly shill on /v/ and reddit

If you actually plan to roll on this DoA autism simulator which will crash and burn on release you are actually retarded. Sticking with Turtle WoW is the way to go if you have more than 70 IQ. Sloppoch is FOMO third worlder Crusader Storm 2.0

>>532039998
Somehow Classic+ returned

Official V+ Tierlist

>Agartha
VVALLKRAFT
>Atlantis
Vanillaplus
>Modern jewmany
Epochud
>Amerimuttia
Troondle
>Weimar
Br*nzeb**rd, C*nquest of Azeroth, Azeroth at War, Sod of Sodomia, x-expansion-5man.

Epoch feels too brown for me, when is Gummy 4?

>>532040297
>Being the biggest and most notorious cocksucking faggot in this general
(you)

You will get bored before level 20

And you will come crawling back like the heroin junkie you are. You always do.

>barely speak coherent english
>play on english speaking realm
what drives this behavior?

from last thread

>>532040531
HYPE

>>532040297
>wallcraft
I kinda hope it has some schizo custom quests or something

NEW AZEROTICA ERP PSERVER
-Murlocs replaced with Chad Muska
-Instead of mounts you're riding skateboards, bmx and shopping carts since lv1
-Instead of grinding boar livers you will be pulling off skate combos
-Spells are replaced with skate tricks
(Instead of mortal strike, warriors do a 360 christ air, mages now summon massive halfpipes instead of portals)
-You can grind on every single part of the map
-Skate combos will earn you as much xp as a couple of fetch quests
-Every racial capital is replaced with a gigantic skatepark
RAID CHANGES:
-Blackwing Skatepark
2nd boss replaced with corrupted Tony Hawk, performs a 900 of doom that makes a random guy blow up after a delay
-Molten Mega Ramp
Ragnarosk8 the Lit
The players gets knocked back into lava unless they time an ollie to avoid it.
-Zul-Jackass
Bam the Blood God.
Summons rails that players have to grind or die.
Randomly incapacitates players for the jackass stunt.
-The Onysk8 Lair
She cannot skate, has been manipulating Anduin into banning skating. The boss fight remains the same.
-AQ20 is now The Halfpipe of Madness, AQ40 is now The Temple of Sick Combos
C'thun has been replaced with C'thollie, who skates on each of his tentacles. Players pulling off the same tricks will all be shot with an eyebeam
-Naxxramps
The final boss is now Kel'Thrasher
THE SERVER WILL BE SHADOWDROPPED AN HOUR BEFORE EPOCH

Anyone got Epoch RXP guide?

CBA reading AI generated shit and walking everywhere I no cap just wanna hit 60 ASAP while watching the Kai Cenat stream in the bg and be a big dick PVMPER on Rachnaroz fr fr

Official V+ Tierlist

>Agartha
Azerotica
>Atlantis
Vanillaplus
>Modern jewmany
Epochud
>Amerimuttia
Troondle
>Weimar
Br*nzeb**rd, C*nquest of Azeroth, Azeroth at War, Sod of Sodomia, x-expansion-5man.

>>532040297
what is it about this post that always makes loony troonies mad?

can turtle wow really brag about being that great when its been 7 years and they still havent found a fix for the shitty nameplates disappearing based on your camera positioning

>>532040921
I think it's pretty fun that the top ranking server is being developed by a complete madman >>532040625 should be interesting

>>532040461
Jaja's are cancer, Argentinians, Uruguayans and Chileans have nothing in common with bolivians, peruvians and caribbeans, like the subhuman venezuelans, besides language.

Anglos and French are more alike than so called "latinos".

>Loony troonies have gone full loon with azerotica
KEKW

Yeah Sloppoch is finished

>AI generated quests
>AI generated dungeons
>AI generated enemies
>only TWO new dungeons
>no Helves or Draenei (WHY???)
>discord moderators scrounging the thread going full Big Brother and banning anyone using their First Amendment Rights
>shilling the thread non-stop with their AI, trying to spread false rumors about Turtle WoW
>stole Warmode and Transmog from Turtle
>stole Human Hunter from Turtle
>2x health values on EVERY mob (have fun leveling as a Priest LOL!)
>only shaman race is ugly fucking dwarfs
>autistic German developers who are BIG FANS of Mythic+ and raid bosses with 500.000.000.000 HP and oneshot mechanics
>put in OP as fuck Bladestorm as the only Wrath ability because the German Autist Dev mains dwarf warrior
>meanwhile deleted Penance because quote "it's too OP"
>no cash shop on launch
>server can't even handle 2000 players, 25.000 are expected on launch day, 100% crash because the German Autist cheaped out
>paid Youtubers to shill their broken ass AI programmed slop server
>Horde will be 80% busted OP oneshot Undead Ret Paladins
>constantly shill on /v/ and reddit

If you actually plan to roll on this DoA autism simulator which will crash and burn on release you are actually retarded. Sticking with Turtle WoW is the way to go if you have more than 70 IQ. Sloppoch is FOMO third worlder Crusader Storm 2.0 made by schizo tranny dev

When name reservation on Epoch starts?

>>532041130
>Can't say Nword therefore bigmad

>>532041247
July 22, 8pm British time

every single goddamn fucking time i try to play on twow there are literally 12 players in every single area of every single fucking zone so you literally cant get ANY quests done
how the fuck does anyone find it fun to play on this fucking server this is fucking unbelievable, why do people shit on phasing when it completely solves the issue

>>532041467
Enjoy your poch server with 50.000 players on launch, 90% of them in the undead zone

>>532040213
>>discord moderators scrounging the thread going full Big Brother and banning anyone using their First Amendment Rights
I didn't even say anything and also got banned, I suspect for kekw-reacting to something someone else said.

If Discord is this bad then why put effort towards a server where we're all just gonna randomly get banned and lose everything because some random troon is having their green discharge menstrual cramps?

Guess I'm waiting for Ascenarion+ and Retail+.

>>532041130
>troondle cucks absolutely tembling and seething
it's over for you

>>532041670
>I didn't even say anything and also got banned
proof?

Wow you guys are not very pleasant to be around huh

If you aren't 60 with full pre-BiS consumes world buffs atunement PvP rank 14 weapons 5 weeks in you'll get kicked from FMC and will never get into the inner clique.

>>532041884
kys niggerfaggot

>>532041884
Welcome to WoW generals enjoy your stay

WTF bros Tel'Abim is actually poppin?

>>532041467
i bet if you came up with a simple test onecould prove most of those are bots to Potemkin village new player into thinking there it's actually not dead.

>>532041834
I ragequit discord and uninstalled the launcher and miniwotlk client, it was a mod called bear-something that just showed up and started 1-hour banning everyone. Saved me from future headaches though, good riddance.

>>532041961
nah, I'll just point at my warlock icon and I'll be in with any random crap gear I felt like using

>>532042280
>I ragequit discord
lol

Epoch will be complete dogshit

>>532042526
turdle troonie

>>532041670
>nigger gamergurl xDDD with childlike room decorations, no personality outside of WoW, and 24" poverty monitors

aoiyuki aoiyuki aoiyuki aoiyuki aoiyuki aoiyuki
love love love love love love love love love love
aoiyuki aoiyuki aoiyuki aoiyuki aoiyuki aoiyuki

>>532041884
proofs?

>>532042632
>getting this mad just seeing a picture of a woman
grim

>>532041961
>make a holy pally
>get some +healing on my gear
>spam holy light
>collect purples

>>532041130
ticky tocky loony troony

>b-but Epoch doesn't have X, Y, Z, and also did you know their devs said [insert random shit]?
It is time for me to address this once for all.

I don't care if Turtle or Epoch is the better server. I am looking for an EXPERIENCE, not a product. I probably have more /played on Turtle on all my characters combined than at least 95% of wpsg, and that is me being very generous.
>what if Epoch population ends up being low?
Cool, I miss the time when Turtle population was low.
>the dev decisions are LE AUTISTIC aaaaaaah
Hmm, who knows, maybe I will like it.

Basically, FUCK YOU to all niggers who shitpost about this. FUCK YOU! FUCK YOU! FUCK YOU!

is playing a female human in wow the biggest agp moment?

>>532042804
He's probably an incel

HIS server.
HIS rules.

>>532042632
that's shenna you nublit

In six short days.
The transwow population will be wiped clean. This could've all been avoided if Dragunov wasn't given the reigns to turn V+ into V-

>>532042804
Kill yourself simp

>>532043113
kitaposting is bigger

i think im burning myself out, too much turtle and then epoch

>>532043308
>kitaposting
i have no idea what that is

>>532042850
Zenya!

why do people queue for dungeons while they're at the ass of the world? do they really expect everyone to wait 20 mintues while they slowly walk over there?

>>532043259
>tranny getting this upset about competition from real women in their safespace
Oh, sister...

>>532043259
>if you don't instantly hate any woman you see you're a simp
Call me Joe "simp" Cool

>>532043496
Yes.

how many simps does aoiyuki have, fuckers spam the thread at every possible timeline, i hate women

>>532043496
if youve already waited hours in the queue, you'll wait another 20 minutes

>>532044453
I'm the tank
I WILL start the dungeon without you and I WILL kick your ass shortly before we've reached the last boss

>>532044286
its mostly him samefagging

i reported someone for not erping with me

stinky musky rapey male worgens...

>>532044630
>him

>>532043113
No that would be female high (formely blood) elf

woggies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aErliBkCg-Y

Whatever happened to Revelation WoW?

>THREE HOURS AQ40 with Fuutrans
Telol please take over...

Only a week left and I still can't pick a class for epoch
help HELP

>>532045259
A perfect server for loony troonies that get filtered by post-leveling content.

>>532045402
warlock

literally me

>>532045402
>https://wheelofnames.com/pmk-hpe
Try with this, some anon posted this earlier on a previous thread, good luck

Why can't I just get a decent vanilla+ server with DKs? Or at the very least a wrath server that's not trashmane.

I don't need addons to play vanilla right

>>532046083
reddit class

>>532045909
loot is property of jib

>>532046083
This but Evoker

>>532046083
Because DK is not vanilla in any shape or form. Therefore it cannot be vanilla+.

>>532045402
druid, everyone knows tbc druids are busted

>>532046262
dunno who that is

That's it.
I'm playing Male Human Hunter.

I still don't know what to play.

>>532046597
because your knowledge is property of jib.

>Stormforge's Netherwing server supports three different game clients: the Classic TBC client, the original 2.4.3 TBC client, and a modified 3.3.5a WotLK client. Players can choose whichever client they prefer to connect and play on the server.

How is this possible and why would anyone not use the updated classic client? Have Stormforge announced a vanilla+ or a wrath server on the classic clients? I don't wanna play gaybc.

>>532046667
okay

maybe I should've stayed in jail a little longer

>>532046259
>>532046423
nigger
>>532046323
What's evoker?

>>532046613
>>532045402
always remember

>>532046850
stick to paymane, r*ddit

>>532046882
What's that, an image for ants???

>>532046882
I blame google

>>532046940
Stop projecting nigger

which shortstack race shall i roll for maximum erp?

>>532043204
Woah what mystery meat American is this

>>532047405

>>532047405
Where is Jib?

not going to lie classic wow is not my thing, im going back to sheilun

>>532047405
Where is Fuutrans?

>>532045259
Launch was a disaster and one of the main devs threatened to reveal mail and password of anyone critical of the project that had signed up.
They kicked their scapegoat and said that they will relaunch but they've been gone for over a year now.
Azeroth at War is basically the same server, and I suspect that it's just stolen code from Revelations.

>>532046083
VVallkraft when it releases
>>532046323
One of CoA's classes can turn into a dragon with the evoker model iirc

>>532048156
Hopefully ACK'd xirself because this monotone emotionless raidleading is fucking killing everyone on the inside.
Watch next week AQ have less than 15 signups.

>>532045402
listen to this anon >>532046882 >>532047239

Picking a class you don't like just because "its good at endgame" or "there's a demand for it in raids" and shit like that. These are the people that are most likely to burn out and quit along the path to 60.
Play what you like above all else.

>>532048595
thats so funny aoi

>>532048458
Haven't been lurking too much. VVallcraft is a shitposting meme isn't it?

>>532047405
Goodbye FMC 4.0...

>>532048732
Not everyone is aoi Fish

>>532048774
It's an actual server. The guy can actually code and implement features better than the entirety of Troondle's team, but he's crazy and his server is a neverending loop of feature creep.

>chromi has 400 players

You guys think it's only because of the gated content? Any chance it will explode like turdle?

>>532049128
lol 300 of those are people setting up addons and shit for epoch

>>532049128
>You guys think it's only because of the gated content?
I left because it was spic central
>Any chance it will explode like turdle?
I hope it explodes like Chernobyl

>>532047405
>kara40 carries
you cannot possibly make this shit up.

>>532049269
>>532049351
Damn bro...

LF plapmeat in Turtle

Spread the news: Big Musk got raped hard in the 'Poch discord

>>532049628
all gone, sorry

>>532049636
who?

trust.

>>532048621
Not him but I'm one of those players. I could play almost any class and have fun (save for mage, rogue or a healer)
Thing is leveling to 60 and finding out you have to put on the dress because there are already 5 shadowpriests/retardins/owlkins etc in every guild is a bitch

>>532049636
Good, one eceleb less on epoch.

>>532049724
>jews: blamed
>meds: not taken
>plan: trusted
it's Epoch time

>>532049636
Kys pochie tranny janny.

>>532049636
Epoch is Muzzy property

>>532048924
Not everyone is fish Warhorn

>>532049689
Thats the guy doing youtube videos literally reading epoch website with 0 effort.
He's one step bellow this guy over here >>532043204


Btw, where did you post that?

>>532049128
Somewhat. Having played since like 39 bracket, each bracket launch got some freshcucks, but often reverted back to those numbers. Vanilla raid drops prob saw more actual server growth than TBC launch. Vanilla shit unironic felt more alive than any TBC content drops. For the most part, only trapped vetcucks are online doing raidlogs or some ppl doing prep for wrath launch (hinted at fall/winter this year release). Wrath may bring more to the server, but as said before, content locks of ~3 months put people off. Even when most all servers actually have upwards of 6 month patch breaks. tbf for it's meme shit of PTE, it's been rather steady to play on and devs often talk with players to fix shit, if they can. Downside is anyone here that spergs the slightest about non-PC shit is banned, as mods are very liberal progressive.

all the epoch slander happening in these threads is an attempt to psyop people into not playing and minimizing launch queues/lag issues. you know i'm right

>>532049989
isn't muzzy a slur?

>>532050190
Hi jasonmuse1866

>>532050304
it's partly that but it's also partly troondles crying over their soon to be dead server

>>532050304
wpsg is just spergouts that never reach servers. it's where ppl vent the dumbest retard shit they don't have to be attached to. every post in here is akin to some jeet bot trying to review bomb a local sandwich shop to updoot their gas station. almost a perfect view into dead internet theory.

>>532050304
going to be a shenna ddos against epoch on launch day anyway.

remember when gummy was making a server and turtle felt so threatened that they announced their new server's release for the exact same day and time?

>>532050304
i dont think shilling in a 4chan thread will reduce the day 1 queue times in any significant way
if theyre actually doing that theyre beyond retarded

>>532051012
ever wonder if it's actually ascension jews the whole time, in the background pitting turtle v epoch?

So is warrior going to be the undefeatable god class on epoch or a worthless pile of shit that maybe gets taken for blood frenzy if you're lucky?

>>532051603
>bladestorm in 'niller
you tell me

>>532049636
was he the guy who was shilling VVallcraft and got all the gay reddit libtards seething?

>>532051603
absolutely don't roll plate class if you ever want to see gear

>>532051603
God in PvP.
Useful tank in PvE for a while but will get left in the dust by druids' insane scaling.
Dps warriors will be a meme because nobody's doing cleave speedruns on private servers, but at least every raid will take one for the arms debuff.

>>532051689
Totally overrated in pve, I'm not even sure it beats 3/5 flurry + deathwish

>>532051915
>Warrior
>Classic
>Plate class

>>532052020
frostnova01.ogg

>>532051603
realistically they'll probably be amazing with gear but you'll be competing with unwashed hordes of browns (and more than a few pinks) for that gear

>>532052095
2000 new items though

>>532049636
whenever i see that word i think back to the time i spent in prison.

>>532052020
>god in pvp
>hardcucked by rank 1 frostbolt

>>532052193
Warrior in tbc is just average, go warlock or hunter if you want big dick damage

I'm tired of vanilla

for me, it's male orc hunter

Human Female
Huntress MM
No Pet
Will tame other players
Yep it's pochi time

>>532052534
what about vanilla plus?

>it's the year 2027
>"Grok, make me a custom classic+ server with 100,000 new items, quests, and dungeons. Simulate other users of varying playstyles and personalities in a population of about 6k, no brazils."
>server is generated in 2 minutes flat and fully functional

Guess I'll be spamming shadowbolt again

When exactly can we expect name reservation to become possible? I'm on multiple month break from WoW and Discord (having a hard time to force myself to log in since I will have to explain why I had gone AWOL) but I want to be ready to get my nick. Could you bros post the exact date and hour for it? I'd be thankful! :)

prot chad

SoD died, going to give epoch a shot. Are casters going to be good? Which one is the best for endgame? I'd rather not play hunter.

>>532053550
since we are using tbc talents warlock will probably be best caster

>>532053668
>tbc talents
I played warlock during TBC, the rotation was literally curse > shadowbolt on ST and spam sneed of corruption on AoE; did they make any rotational changes on Epoch?

>>532052675
she looks like me, weird af..

>>532053550
There really is not "best for endgame", the devs have announced that they'll be actively homogenizing classes and abilities, nerfing anyone that's too strong etc. Just play whatever you like the most since all classes will be the same.

>>532053929
What's the highest APM caster class then? I can't stand non-hasted casters, it's like watching paint dry.

>>532053550
>>532053867
Sneed of corruption is nerfed in epoch so warlocks will be DOG ASS

>>532053867
You can keep up a damage and non-damage curse at the same time but I think that's it.

>>532053867
I mean this is literally every caster (except söypriest but it's utility not dps) in tbc/vanilla
you VVILL spam one button or you will play melee

>Pearl joined my MoP Classic server

>>532049724
Look, I don't know if it will turn out well or not, time will tell. But I do dislike when dev teams listen to the players way too much instead of having their own vision for their project. Time will tell if it's good enough or not.

>6 months of mc, ony, and wsg.
oh boy.

>>532053040
you're ESL so I'd rather you don't play

>>532052675
honestly was thinking of doing a petless hunter/druid duo on my single player server and just swapping between the characters here and there

>>532054326
>6 months of mc, ony, and wsg.
Oh, boy!

>>532054080
enhancement shaman is a caster that weaves melees and shit between casts
also some dev plays it so it'll be buffed whenever numbers look bad

>>532053040
july 22, at 21:00 CEST

Please tell me Epoch is gonna be full of submissive trannies. They’re my favorite part of an MMO

>>532054353
What's wrong with my post you lard

>>532054643
Yes, it'll be great.

>>532054326
SOVL

For me, it's <Soldiers of Fortune>.

>>532054389
Just find someone to be your pet, silly

>>532054520
Cheers anon, xoxo

>>532054651
Ok i help you out so you can blend in better next time
>to get my nick.

>>532053040
if you are worried about name reservations your are probably using some cringe and generic name desu

>>532054265
>But I do dislike when dev teams listen to the players way too much instead of having their own vision for their project.
Well said. I feel that's what killed Retail. Blizzard listened to 0.01% of the playerbase, the raiders. And now only that 0.01% remain.

>>532054764
I played SOF1 and it was mid 2bh, sof2 was plain bad.

>>532055160
I will reserve the names Arthas and Thrall and sell them for real life money.

>>532055132
I'm pretty sure that anon meant nickname you werido

>>532055371
Only turd worlders abbreviate nickname

>>532055160
>genetic names are... LE BAD

>>532055310
How much do names like that from twow Nordanaar sell for? asking for a friend haha

>>532055472
yeah billy

I was going to play Warrior but I don't know if I really feel like playing a substandard tank who has to compete with gear with the other most played class.
I might just go enhancement shaman.

I have multiple accounts scripted with bots and ready to go online when name reservation goes live, I will be taking every single FMC name and never using them, you trannies will pay for what you did

>>532055567
Okay Taquanda.

You guys better not take my name in 2 days

>>532055132
Yeah, nick(name). Synonym so I'd not have to use the 'name' word again in the following sentence.

>>532055175
Many such cases

>>532055770
In two days I become Asalys

>>532055779
Stop digging

>>532055460
Insane post

>>532055582
im NA so ill be at work during name reserves nuuuuuuuu

>>532054434
You've convinced me, I'm gunna give elemental shaman a shot. It looks like they even added a fire spell for them to use on nature immune mobs. Kinda reeks of dev favoritism, pretty much like Aggrend and ret paladins.
Thanks anon. I see here that racials don't matter since you can swap them around freely, is there any reason to go dwarf/alliance over horde? You can group with people cross-faction right? What about the auction house? Is it also cross-faction?

>>532056120
>is there any reason to go dwarf/alliance over horde?
depends, are you a knee grow

>>532056120
>noooo I don't want to spam shadow bolt >:(
>spams lightning bolt instead

Race and class for this feel?

>>532056517
Male UD paladin

>>532056517
Anything horde

>>532056517
Gnome warrior staring at the boss you're tanking

>>532039137 (OP)

5.5 days till tortie ack

>>532056494
>Fire nova totem
>chain lightning
>chain lightning elemental overload procs
>No hard CC so I have nothing to even do other than deal damage and manage my RAID WIDE totem
>0% chance I'm ever asked to heal because 3% spellhit and crit for the entire raid is just too good
>Don't have to ever summon, gather soul shards, hand out healthstones
There are so many reasons to not play warlock anon. Like I said, I played TBC warlock, it wasn't a fun experience.

>>532056730
you said that when the chinks invaded the server

>>532056806
neither is ele shaman though
and saying muh chain lightning is the same as saying soc, except soc is actually good

they should've added Human Shamans for us malehumanpilled

might actually play a nelf huntard, i've always played a dorf hunter but i'm going mage this time around

>YOU CANT PLAY AN UNDEAD PALADIN BECAUSE.... YOU JUST CANT OK??!!!

>>532056616
The super saiyan hairstyle is missing.. I'm afraid it's over

>>532056973
The only downside to TBC shaman was that you're obligated to run drums because you're the worst caster DPS + you're the first to get sat/asked to swap to healing because totem of wrath is group wide. That shouldn't ever end up being the case here.
I just looked at their spellbook, this might actually be a problem. The only AoE they have is a 6 sec chain lightning and a 15 sec fire nova totem.

not looking forward to seeing horde niggers in my raid
Can the wpsg guild be alliance only?

you are all turning VVARMODE on, RIGHT?

>general trying to bully people into not playing Undead Paladin
>general consists of a bunch of circle jerking high school drama
Therefore the logical thing would be to the do the opposite of what this general says. Male Undead Paladin it is

>>532057803
>day 1
>hour 1
>log into poochie
>skip intro
>tirisfal loads up
>1000 other UD paladins running around deathknell

>>532058234
kek put on the dress sissy

<Ultimate Swordfighting>

>>532058283
>1000 others stuck in queue

>>532056840
When the chinks invaded Turtle Wow it killed /turtleg/. Anons stopped playing there for over a year as the server was unplayable with hour long queues just to get in.
The difference is the server made a ton of money despite losing its English speaking players because of the influx of Chinese paypigs spending outrageous amounts for spectral tigers. That isn’t happening here. If a bunch of players leave this time it won’t be good for Turtle Wow. Not saying they won’t survive this but it isn’t going to be great for them. I’d say at the very least /wpsg/‘s interest in the server is over for the time being.

>>532058283
>wait 1 week
>load into Tirisfal
>3 weeks later
>85% of paladins and players will have quit
>play prot and reap the rewards

>>532058707
no way 85% of the server gets filtered week 1
month 1 maybe

>>532058294
>2000 added items
Put on the shield brownie

>>532058647
That's funny, that's actually when I quit playing turtlewow, during the china invasion.

I almost came back but heard hackers took over the server and tried to distribute malware via the client so held off. Maybe if Epoch and Ascenion+ suck I'll try turtle again.

>>532054764

>>532058967
If the dungeons are hard like the devs want I can imagine a lot of people dropping the server early. Most people are used to mindless running RFC/Deadmines/WC etc but with the changes I can see people that just want to win logging off permanently

>>532043204
this guy looks like something pretending to be a human

>>532043496
becaue theyre niggers. i at least get it if its a dps but instant queue healers will pull this too

>anon threatens to quit if nureinul attends the raid
>nureinul attends
>no one quits
NO BALLS

>>532058014
the wpsg guild isn't even entering MC lil bro

>>532059503
i did quit althoughbeit
not because of nureinul lol

I'm so cooked bros

>>532059109
Same. Quit when the queues got to be too long and the devs refused to do shit about it because they didn't want to be called racist (and worse you were a racist if you told them to do shit). When /turtleg/ merged back with the then-dead /wpsg/ thread, I just gave WoW pservers a break. The few anons who kept playing migrated to MB2 eventually and stayed there a long time. Then they tried Crusader-storm but that server was doomed. Then a new generation of anons said "let's try Turtle again" and the rest was history.
I would say maybe /wpsg/ will return to Turtle someday. Maybe there will be another revival of FMC once more. But I think until then /wpsg/'s interest in Turtle is over. Not even because Epoch is going to be such a great server, but because the gossip anons have poisoned the well such that nobody really wants to play on Turtle any more.

>>532059109
i stopped playing shortly before that because that's when that one GM was going insane with power tripping by forcibly renaming a guild he didn't like and threatening to ban players dancing naked outside the SW bank

Where is she? I need to be soothed

>>532059230
the people rushing to clear instances are not the same ones who care about difficulty

>>532060442
I remember that! <Full Sack>! Such a dumb move.

>>532060281
i would never go back due to their GM culture, but i hope the UE5 client is good and other servers allow it to be used.

>>532060667
the officer who posted the convos made it even worse because the GM was blatantly just abusing his power, the fact that he was never reprimanded just because he cleared more tickets than anyone else was insane to me

>>532059659
plenty of successful vg guilds
away you go you doomer bastard

LF1M Tank Deadmines /pst Cheevo level21+ only

>>532060767
Yeah, in the conversation the guild leader was being incredibly reasonable. And then out of nowhere the GM goes "there I just changed your guild name" and even then the guild leader keeps his cool. But just so fucked to change such an innocuous guild name, and to not even give them a choice in a new one.
It was reverted back. As far as I know that GM is no longer active. They may have changed names but given I haven't heard of them doing anything like that again I doubt it.

In WoW ascension if i create a character in the current season, and the season ends, does my character just get deleted?

>>532061220
even if he quit/got fired EVENTUALLY it still reflects poorly on Turtle that the response wasn't to immediately revert the name, apologize to the guild and fire the GM. a day later this motherfucker was threatening to ban people dancing outside the SW bank and they were still running interference for him because of how many tickets he clears like that's any excuse.

>>532061484
it gets rolled over onto Area 52 which is the free pick server. if your name is already taken on there you have to change your name.

>>532061534
I don't think anyone can really accuse Turtle Wow of being well-managed. It wasn't a good look. Neither was the GM who spawned items for himself, and only got banned when a player gather irrefutable evidence and posted it.

>>532061910
shit like that is why i can never go back. kind of nervous about Epoch as well just because of the way the jannies conduct themselves in their discord.

oh widdle toortle wider

>>532062341
that's my favorite character from the elden ring intro

Feels fucking good to not be sweating name reservations.
Have a kino name for both my characters that no one will ever take.

>>532040442
There is something unsettling about this fucker and I can't get past it every time I see him. Like he is evil, and not because of WoW or anything, just in general. Pedo vibes.

>>532062792

Before blizzard he was a lawyer, tells you everything you need to know.

Epoch gonna be good. I don't even have to raid. Just gonna do dungeons and pvp and fuck around in the open world.

>>532063925
based benji ruining his realm

>>532042049
>Potemkin village
Never heard or seen that before. Did a quick Google, I like the usage lol.

fuark bros i'm so hype actually
i hope it all works out and we get a comfy 2k-4k population

>>532057558
I'm still going back and forth on dorf arcane mage or dorf hunter. Mage gets some nice new things but hunter just gets QoL stuff mostly, and pet scaling I guess. Just nothing terribly exciting.

>>532062681
Trumpladin and SleepyTroll are not kino names anon

>>532064115
travesty hunters didn't at least get explosive shot

FAT FEMDORF MAGE CHEEKS ON MY FACE
actually I'll be going gnome priest

completely new to WoW private servers but veteran on /vg/
I have a few questions as I'm interesting in trying out epoch next week
>what's the most noob friendly class to start playing as? anything except healing
>what's the qrd on Epoch /wsg/ guild? is the leader a normal player as in not a pedophile that gets his mental illness validated on the internet
>how is the /wpsg/ community here, can people sniff out IP addresses and stalk you here when you post?

appreciate it

>>532065529
>warrior
>it is a trans only guild
>yes every poster's IP is compared against their account so we know who everyone is in the thread
hope this helps!

>>532065529
>what's the most noob friendly class to start playing as? anything except healing
Hunter, Mage
>what's the qrd on Epoch /wsg/ guild? is the leader a normal player as in not a pedophile that gets his mental illness validated on the internet
They are all nasty people, and the cool ones stick to small cliques that sometimes join the guilds and leave/splint once drama ensues. /wpsg/ Guild Leaders generally are not trannies as far as a i remember.
>how is the /wpsg/ community here, can people sniff out IP addresses and stalk you here when you post?
I doxxed a couple, i used to be mentally ill too. Most are obsessed with female hentai personas.

>>532065529
paladin
don't play with wpsg ever

>>532064075
>molten core for 6 months
doa server

>>532065529
>noob friendly class
Paladin, but it's sometimes looked down upon. Hunter maybe after level 10. Don't trust who says warrior, you're being trolled.
>Epoch guild
No one knows
>privacy concerns
Not that I know, never had any problems

>>532043113
agp?
Autogynephilia?

>>532066079
ok

How do I set it to 4k? The dropdown goes off the damned screen.

>>532065529
>what's the most noob friendly class to start playing as? anything except healing
Hunter is the ultimate easy to learn hard to master class, great way to learn the game and they aren't as overpopulated as they used to be
>what's the qrd on Epoch /wsg/ guild?
There is no definitive Epoch /wsg/ guild yet, just a few anon posting advertisements most are probably shitposting and I wouldn't suggest playing with a guild from /vg/
>how is the /wpsg/ community here, can people sniff out IP addresses and stalk you here when you post?
I wouldn't post your character name, you might trigger a random schizo that will stalk you for a week before moving on. Others can be fun but meeting randoms ingame is the best way to find wow friends. I don't think anyone would IP sniff or actually dox people, just harassment

>>532064075
I hope they carry on using the og vanilla art
it's kino

>>532066725
turn ur shit to full screen not borderless windowed? idk

>huge FPS drops in blackfathom deeps
it's over for me

JUDY'S MILKERS
YAR HAR HAR

>>532066725
You're probably gonna have to edit the config.wtf file to get things working on 3.3.5. Might take some fiddling

thanks for the quick replies.
i was doing some quick research on the epoch class changes, and undead paladin sounds like an interesting twist if not then hunter probably, but i’m worried i might have to rely too much on a party when i’ll most likely spend my time playing solo.
i was also worried about the ip address thing, but if that’s not an issue, then i can see myself posting here for advice regularly.
thanks, everyone.

>>532067119
paladin and hunter can solo fairly well.
paladin just takes more gear to do so

There's no hope for furyprot on epoch, is there? Bosses are all going to hit for 50 trillion damage and you'll get oneshot by 5 man trash without a shield?

>>532067119
ah, one last question:
if i don't care about name reservation, can i just wait for the 26th without issues as long as i download the client?

>>532043113

You're one of us now chud.

>>532067335
good. very good.

>>532067335
Even if bosses are weak enough that you can DW, you'd still go deep prot because you need devastate without wbuffs.

>>532067335
you vill roll the furry tank
and you vill love it

>>532067119
for solo play hunter is king, beast mastery spec specifically.
>>532067570
yeah, don't need to reserve anything, just log in and play after it launches

>>532067335
>rolling furyprot
>when classes are tbc upgraded
bro, just roll prot paladin

alright which one of you is this?

>>532067570
expect server problems on the first day(s). the client has to be patched with the launcher or manually as per website.

>>532068576
me

>>532068576
it wuz meh

>>532068821
stop tagging my felstakers you fuck

>>532067828
>>532068360
Sounds like ass, when's the next real classic fresh?

>>532062238
>kind of nervous about Epoch as well just because of the way the jannies conduct themselves in their discord
i am very worried about epoch considering the behaviour of the server owner himself handing out 14 day bans because some jokesters made character names like Nigglet for a 1.5 hour long stress test

>>532069056
the next 2-3 years when someone else comes by and tries their hand at the V+ cycle

>>532062681
>Trumpwonmon

>>532069248
nah was thinking more like
>Trumpgrapekids

>>532067119
hunter is the ultimate solo class. exploring the world to tame pets and train them is comfy.

Yeah I think I am done with Turtle and WoW completely. I will not play on Epoch either. Might try Retail at some point in the future, but I doubt it.

lol i read here that FMC is dead
qrd? i joined there like 8 months ago but quit the game all together unrelated to them

>>532069526
>blogposting

>"Turn on Warmode bro, it's fun!"
>The "fun"
/wpsg/ will defend this

>>532069771
roll paladin next time

>>532069771
I say that from a place of privilege. I play an orc rogue.

>>532069771
>falling for the pvpfags bait
wouldn't be me

>>532069672
>Cared enough to reply
I can tell you more to keep you engaged

>>532069771
>2 female humans going into a horde controlled area
you were asking for it

>>532070181
pwease

>>532069771
This is gonna be so fun on Pochie...

>>532069771
ZUGGED

https://www.project-epoch.net/classes/talents/?data=5;0:2:2:2:2:2:0:0:0:3:3:3:3:3:10:10:10:10:10:8:9:9:9:9:9:13:13:13:15:15:15:15:4:6:6:7:18:18:18:18:18:19:5:5:15:17:17:17:12:12:1:1:1:1:1;1:9:9:9:9:9:2:2
Yep, it's shaman time

>>532069771
That looks fun (from the horde side)

>>532069771
This is SOVLFVL LVDOKINO

>>532069626
Its just run its course for the last 9 months. It'll probably just go into dormancy, like it did last summer, and find a revival with ue engine update or a new guild will form.
Wpsg typically only focuses on one client and the focus will likely be epoch for the next 1+ months depending on how it runs and how much drama there is.

/wpsg/ is healing

>>532069961
Paladin can't bubble hearth until level 52 iirc

What if instead of making one single official WPSG guild, we were all free to join whatever guilds we wanted, but could always chat and organize pugs via the anon-only private channel?

>>532050304
I have no dog in the fight, but the Epoch spammers are annoying. I would be more sympathetic but I honestly don't understand the hype.

Vanilla with TBC talents and retail-like itemization/progression. Who is even the target audience?

>>532071339
I like this idea!

>>532069771
you just have to straight up be new to wow to fall for the pvp server meme and i refuse to believe there have been people new to wow post legion

>>532071339
>Honeypot

>>532071339
This sounds comfy

>>532071419
see you on epoch lol

>>532071339
Based

>>532071339
do you really think the failed males here who gossip like teenage girls can fit in with regular guilds?

>>532071419
it's a new server that looks promising for a lot of anons, what else do you want them to talk about? More guild drama? Give it some time and people will talk about other stuff.

>>532071339
>private channel
discord server*

>>532071808
most "regular guilds" have their fair share of keyboard-turning shitters, sexpests, failed males and lootgoblins

>>532072023
maybe but theres no outlet for them to bring their drama into this thread to the same degree that we see here periodically. i could name drop my guild members all day long and nobody here would give a damn

>>532072023
This doesn't disprove anything what the other anon said and any decent guild will quickly deal with their problematic members unlike Dogfucker Company

>>532071892
as long as push to talk is mandatory im down!

>>532069526
Okay Aoiyuki.
See you next week.

<Goldshire Inn Basement>

>>532069771
I can't wait to jump the guy mining a vein because hes super cool with warmode on and when he comes back to find me my pvp will have worn off.
an when you run into him in a bg later and you can tell he is still upset by tunneling you.
I'm gonna fuckin cum.

>>532071828
It's not people talking about it that bothers me. It's the like 30 messages in every thread saying "Pochie", "6 sleeps till Pochie", and mentioning random people's names from the Epoch discord like anyone gives a fuck. Basically, they overwhelm every thread with Epoch shit as a way to promote it. If people want to discuss Epoch, and talk about class balance, post polls, or whatever, that's perfectly fine. It's the spammers that annoy me.

<Aoiyukis Footstools>

>>532069147
no it's worse than that, the 14 day bans were from GMs. the server owner later bragged that he upgraded those bans to permabans like a smug faggot.

>>532072023
In a regular guild you would just kick a bad player and be replaced by some new recruit from world chat.
In a /wpsg/ guild you can't kick anyone because there's an autistic rule that we can only invite from this thread meaning beggar's can't be choosers, but the end result is people in the guild are unhappy and leave.

Epoch /wpsg/ guild discord
>no #general chat
>only voice channels

Thoughts?

>>532073262
ERP in voice could be fun...

Okay, Epoch is royally fucked. People are unironically defending casters being absolutely garbage.

>>532073262
ban frogposters and it'll be decent

>>532073384
is that your complain?

>>532071339
No thanks. I played with anons. I helped anons. I was friends with anons. Those anons turned around and shittalked me, shittalked our guildmates, shittalked our guild. Those anons made a bunch of ridiculous middle school drama. Those anons made other anons quit. Those anons made the game not fun. Those anons ultimately ruined a good guild.
I have no interest in playing with any of you ever again. I already have some friends I'm going to play with. I'll do that while posting sometimes in the thread and laughing at you anons who continue to make this game unfun for yourselves by having dumb slapfights because you can't get along even when others are nothing but friendly to you.
Fuck your guilds. Fuck your discords. Fuck your chat channels. If I want to say something I'll say it in this thread. The end.

>>532073681
qrd?

aint reading allat

>>532073681
Tewi...

>>532071339
I crusaded to get people to join Basement channel in Turtle but about a month ago a GM accidentally wrote in the channel revealing they monitored it in secret. You could even /chat list # for channel and the GM wouldn't show up. Turtle went from promoting basement to monitoring it. Never got banned from for anything in basement but wouldn't consider it private.
You can try that in Epoch but seeing the Discord bans and test run bans id look for something outside the game. That leaves Discord which has its own tradeoffs and here.

>>532074049
how else can you report pedophiles trading real life child porn than to monitor it?

>>532074049
Basement got purged back in the day. Lots of us got suspended just for being in there. I got hit with a three day despite only lurking.
Didn’t rejoin basement when you tried to revive it but not shocked a GM was watching. You’re lucky you didn’t lose your account.
But yeah in-game chat channels are a no-go. Use the thread or discord.

>>532073262
I said this a thread or two ago. It forces people into the third space of playing the game.
Just do voice channel, raid sign up, and maybe a picture with no text and definitely no officer channels.

Tenderly kissing and nuzzling my futa nelfie lover's ears and whispering sweet nothings in Thalassian as we fall asleep.

>>532073681
Which anons ruined it?

>>532074584
Sylma

>>532074414
Been on Turtle 5 years now and never got a ban for basement, only only China channels and using Hittler. Not worth it though regardless. Even if you add a password someone will go to world chat and announce it.

>>532074650
Unironically by letting people act like complete assholes yes

>>532074414
i'm going to make a no raiding social guild for the thread and you can't stop me

>>532074650
How did Sylma ruin it?

Aoiyuki won.

>>532073262
>voice only
but im shy...

>>532072568
I'm not Aoiyuki, I'm just pretending to be her

>>532075192
Who was allowed to be a complete asshole without moderation?

>>532074049
>wouldn't consider a public channel in a public discord private

wow really?

If you make a chat channel I will report it to GMs.
If you make a guild I will report it to GMs.
If you avatarfag I will report you to GMs.
Epoch GMs have zero tolerance for 4chan and they will delight at banning you.

>>532075515
Filthydrunk

>>532075350
Then just use chat channels in game. I think the goal is to keep out of game communication to the general and not the app.

>>532075515
Filthydrunk for one. Feel free to defend him now. I expect nothing less.

>>532073146
>there's an autistic rule that we can only invite from this thread
FMC was full of /heals/ troons though?

>>532075559
hmm i can't post my character here then? that sucks i always like to show my shit to others

>>532075558
Is the discord now open to anyone? Last I was there you had to pass a terry david test to get in.

>>532075575
>>532075756
Not defending anyone. I wasnt there when the complaints happened. Just soul searching if theres options to prevent history repeating. ( . Y . )

Hi I'm new to Turtle.

Decided to check out the High Elf start. The AI voice in the intro was not a good omen for me. Is the background music just AI gen shit too? Why not use the Blood Elf themes from BC?

>>532073681
hear hear. FMC was not comfy.

>>532076493
Turtles music is pretty good. Check out the radio channels.

>>532076493
The new music in turtle is way to old to be an AI track, one of their big advertising points years ago was the custom music. I'm not a huge fan

>>532076647
lmao

https://youtu.be/zjhujWS73IQ

Epoch race/class for this feel?

>>532076493
>Why not use the Blood Elf themes
Ummm they are NOT blood elves chud, they're HIGH elves

>>532076647
There's two radio channels and both have the same generic tavern song going.

>>532076779
Human priest or pally

>>532076226
The lesson to learn is "don't join /wpsg/ guilds."
Sylma was a nice guy but a terrible leader. He just let people act so bad in the guild. Filthydrunk really did piss off a lot of players by acting like an asshole. You can argue "oh the players who made quit were bad ones" and with Elaynna yes he was a bad player. But Jib wasn't a bad player. Ahru wasn't a bad player. Fuutank wasn't a bad player. Hell Fuutank is one of the few anons keeping FMC alive right now. If Filthydrunk had gotten his way and Fuutank had stayed gone, the guild would be over by now.
Filthydrunk also started the trend of pugging during FMC raids. He would skip FMC raids to do BWL before FMC did BWL, then skipped them to do AQ40 before FMC did AQ40.
The worst part is he wasn't just some random player. He was an officer. He should have been demoted the first time he had a meltdown on discord. But Sylma chose to ignore it. Sylma ignored a lot of problems just hoping and wishing they would go away. At most he would whisper you and try to placate you with empty words. But the issues didn't go away. They got worse.
FMC is in the state it is because of Sylma. I'm so tired of hearing that Sylma was such a great leader when he was terrible. I get it. He was a good guy. He posted his character's butt to the thread. People like him. But that doesn't mean he's a good leader. Far from it.

Okay Aoiyuki you won.

so why did telol refuse to pass lead to aoiyuki who is trying to do something with the guild and still cares

>>532077337
TRVTH NVKE

>>532076842
>what if blood elves
>BUT BLUE GLOWING EYES
I hate elfchuds so much it's unreal

>13 players online
>1 male
Azeroticasissies… I don’t feel so good…

>>532072720
how many winks left for you?

>>532077902
Because he’s an arrogant asshole who loves shouting about how he’s the REAL GM but he’s also a lazy emo git who cries about having to do anything that a real GM might have to do. Essentially he wants to be the leader but doesn’t want to lead. He butts heads with Fuutank too who is actually stepping in to do shit and be the actual leader he isn’t.
If Telol were a good guy he’d step aside and let others lead. He doesn’t have to quit but for fuck’s sake just let Fuu and Aoi do their thing.

>>532076842
>>532077959
So what lore did they write to distinguish High Elves from BC's Blood Elves? I don't think I'm hooked on this so far, but I'm willing to give it a chance

>>532077337
Thanks for your input anon.

>>532078018
what the fuck is azerotica

I’ll take people saying POCHIE and being excited for a new server over the usual dramaposts about who is e-sleeping with whom. Let people ride the hype.

>>532078456
a pvserver centered on erotic role playing
currently 12 players online

>>532078456
Our home. It’s a PvE-ERP Classic+ server.

How many words can i have for a character name on 3.3.5? This is important.

>>532078664
Could be fun if it wasn't dead. I miss Prologue WoW...

>>532077902
only a matter of time before he takes a hint and passes lead to someone else.. a few names come to mind but I think public sentiment in guild discord is that Aoi should be given lead, yes.

does bladestorm look stupid with polearms?

I (no namer)quit fmc early when monster hunter wilds came out, look forward to catching up with everyone on epoch, it was a fun time

I'm looking forward to taming human bitches on Epoch

>>532076689
speaking of are there any addons or patches that alter the music in 3.3.5 at all? not that it's bad but after 20 years i wonder if anyone's done custom music. i remember there used to be a mod for TBC that you could set tracks to play per zone but i think it was abandoned.

>>532069771
the only saving grace for pochie warmode is that you can only be attacked by warmode enabled players. no fucky fuckery by non warmodes unless an exploit is found. If anyone thinks running into a warmode's blizzard or stealth infront of a mob to be targeted will tag you for pvp you're wrong according to pochie devs.

>>532079159
yeah check out winamp

>>532078818
looks stupid anyways
fucking beyblade cringe

>spam arcane blast until you take threat and die
whats fun about this?

>>532079159
I know there's Soundtrack that allows you to set custom tracks boss fights and stuff. No idea if there's a 3.3.5

>>532079414
okay, probably will go fury + arms then.

>High Elf mount is a fucking unicorn
lmao what

>>532079423
big numbers require big sacrifices

>>532079502
based
arms was cool before it got bladestorm

How i'm supposed to play pally if i have to bring all of this?

>>532079530
Better than that dogshit barely animated podracer goblins have. Honestly made me stop leveling my goblin

>>532079615
>epoch wont sell 38 slot bags
>made 20 more consumables for every proff
it's so fucking over

>>532079694
That looks so sad
Should have given them a hog or something

>>532079694
>now this is podracing

If I use a store illusion will I stay in it if I shapeshift on a druid?

What should I play on Epoch if I want to level with warmode on and rape a few cunts along the way?

>>532080085
I think they changed it last patch yes. But only some Illusions can mount and fly. Pandas and stock worgen can but gilnean woggy cant

>>532080085
no u gotta buy those glyphs instead fag

>>532080090
Probably Druid or Warlock(Horde)

>>532080090
If you can't do well with any class are you even good at the game?

>>532078719
1 word

>>532080378
Real answers only no faggot shit like what this nigger just posted LMFAO.

>>532069771
Funniest thing about that picture is that warrior immediatly used fear and raped most of them while mage escaped and helped with the rape soon after. Both of them survived.

>>532080469
>Pls tell me the meta classes to gank on ez mode plsplsplspls
pathetic

>>532079793
epoch has battle/guardian elixir system so you can just bring 1 flask

I'm soothed again. Ready for Pochie.

>>532080090
rogue will always be good if you get the jump, but after getting riposte most fights are ez wins
avoid druids though, well good druids.

next is druid. no comment, does everything and is strong while leveling.

then i'd vote for shaman, once again does everything and hits hard.

>>532065529
>>532071339

>>532073262
I like that idea. Who is going to make it though? Last time i did a vg discord i got belitled for not doing everything perfectly.

>>532073262
how about we just make a chat channel in the actual game?
/join wpsg
once in game
fuck the guild
fuck your discord.

>>532081162
because chat channels go through the server exe meaning they can be monitored and policed?

>>532079694
>>532079530
So this...is the power... of twow..

>>532081328
so? don't be a faggot

>>532081392
private channels consisting of consenting private individuals should not be policed or monitored. simple as

>>532081459
Can't you really go without saying NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER for half an hour?

>>532081392
Nigger the point of a wpsg space is that you can say whetever you want without fear of being censored. Ingame channel on a server with power tripping gms is not a viable option.

N

>>532081459
okay but what does that have to do with a guild on epoch

i agree with you, but seriously. a chat channel instead of a guild is way better
no need to sign up to discord
can leave and rejoin whenever you want
can advertise PUGs.
can make a core of ANONs all without a guild.

/JOIN FELLOWSHIP

>>532079530
unicorns are based.

>>532081691
/Join anons

I'd make the guild but I'm an easy target for bullying..

>>532082573
Deca...

>>532069771
>that gigachad white human male warrior

>>532069771
>Frausted
>Frosted
lol

>>532082573
That's perfect.
Love a bullyable leader.

>>532082573
Femboysocks...

>>532069771
>>"Turn on Warmode bro, it's fun!"
no one says this

>>532072720
Holy fuck, use filters you spaz. You are in control of the buttons you press faggot.

im just waiting for the ascension vanilla+, can't stand how slow the other ones are or how weak you feel.

>>532082656
>the indomitable human spirit
Noshoes will never understand

>>532081552
thats not the point
>>532081609
a wpsg discord would not be monitored, policed or moderated or have any risk of action on your ingame account, a chat channel ingame would certainly be capable of being monitored, policed and moderated by people who can permaban your ingame account
thus, a chat channel ingame is not suitable

>"i'm gonna make a guild so i can talk to other anons"
>"i'm gonna make a discord so i can talk to other anons"
>"i'm gonna make a chat channel so i can talk to other anons"
Just use the thread.

>>532083173
yeah unless we all get tripcodes that shit ain't working

>>532083206
You're literally talking in the thread right now.

Is Warmode in a PvP server just free extra XP?
You're already always flagged, so

Should I play Baldur's Gate 3, Dark Souls 2, Fire Emblem Awakening, Mary Skelter 2, or Mystia's Izakaya while waiting for Pochie?

>>532082656
Absolutely no fear. He knows what vaniller is all about. He knows what has to be done to preserve what's left of it.

>See another player in a quest area
>Invite them to my party so we can kill the mobs without competing with each other
>They join, I say hello
>No reply
>When I'm done, I ask if they're done with their quest too
>No reply
>I kill some more mobs for good measure in case they were missing any, and start running back to the quest giver
>They leave the party
Was it shyness, antisocial behavior, or just didn't speak english

>>532083173
the anonymity of 4channel makes good faithed posting impossible

cant wait for epoch xD the higher difficulty will filter so many noobs lol it will be the dark souls of wow p servers :p normies get checked hihi

>>532083462
Do you plan on playing around release? If so, you should play a somewhat shorter game.

>>532083720
I am a NEET so I need something for an entire week.

>>532083618
It also makes it impossible to have a guild/discord/chat channel because all you faggots will do is run to this thread and shit talk each other while pretending to be friends.

>>532083590
In my experience its most likely the third.

>>532083859
Izakaya and be my wife.

I take it back, the idea of there being a civil-war type deal between High Elves and Blood Elves is kinda cool.

>>532083859
BG3 is fun if like a lot of choice in story for RPGs the only other game you asked about that I played was Awakening and I didn't really like it

>>532083462
Play on Azerotica

>PREPARE TO DIE

>>532083462
Play on Turtle

>>532083462
>>532083859
Nta, but
>BG3
act 1 is the only act worth playing
>DS2
why play the worst entry? play some other medieval game instead, something like dragons dogma 1
>FE:A
was a good game but localized and sanitized. No fanpatches for it
>Mary Skelter 2
Oldschool Vita drpg with the two main characters being legit lesbians and you have a touching minigame. I would play this one, for the yuri and the skill setup autism
>Izakaya
Just buy booze and play Mary Skelter 2.

>>532084282
>log on turtle
>realize i didnt roll paladin
>close turtle

>>532084178
>when I start a new pochie run and I walk in on 20 defias bandits surrounding the abbey with low level players blindfolded and hog-tied by their side as they discuss ransom with the local soldiers

>>532084448
Light bless you

>>532080397
thanks, i'm a retard. i was thinking about letters and its 12.

>>532084178
>start a new pochie run
>the orc invasion dynamic event was happening as I spawn in and low level players are getting killed on respawn by hordes of blackrock orcs
vgh, kino...

Reminder that Mulgore will be the least populated starter zone at Epoch's launch.
Reject humanity, return to Cow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bERUCRJSzTk

>>532084178
>cant kill defias
>cant kill kobolds
>cant even kill a wolf
>the grapes are too hard to pick

>>532083462
>>532083859
If you make a character on Azerotica and post it here I will use as my personal cocksleeve for the entire week until Epoch is released.

>>532084705
I would but I don't want to be sexually harassed by Pearl/Sylma/Milka/Notma

>>532084705
Was gonna roll a doodoo, but the poll looks like 25% of the population is rolling druid and I can't blame them the class is looking solid on poochie. Gonna roll a lock instead

I don't buff people who call my druid a dudu

Tauren Druid or Hunter? I need to become a traveler of Epoch helping people with their quests...

>>532085520
druid

>>532085520
I'm going Tauren Hunter, we could be Cow Hunter Buddies anon :D

im tempted to make an azerotica night elf rogue now..

>>532084705
I don't like the cows but Mulgore is ludo

>>532085520
druid so you can buff people who pass by

>>532085696
Do you wanna play with my Azerotica Tauren Druid?

>>532085842
I do like buffing people. Its just that feral kinda sucks to play for some reason. Getting lacerate is cool now though.

Do Elf Warriors make sense?
I just remember the Spellbreakers from WC3 but don't remember Elves who didn't have some connection to the arcane

>>532087627
only females

>>532087827
how come

>>532087872
bigger penises than males

gooning on Azerotica

>>532088036
I don't see the correlation

>>532088372
Helps with pulling aggro

Share with us Pochies
What class are you playing and why?

>roll on azerotica
>immediately some level 60 rolls up to the starter zone i’m in asking if i need any help
Life is good

>>532089004
maybe woyer, huntard, dudu, rouge, or totem or pinky

>login on azerotica
>jump around SW square tree for 5 minutes
>logout

>>532089004
human priest (male)

>>532089004
Druid
I like Tauren, and I like the new talents in the Balance Tree that give you Int as SP and MP5...

feeling like doing some hypnosis erp, should I get on azerotica?

>>532089457
yes, message aoiyuki

>>532089004
warrior, paladin, shaman, hunter, druid, rogue, mage, priest or warlock

>>532080090
honorable mention for hunter, not as ezmode as druid

>>532089915
i wanna be the one getting hypnotized

i made an azerotica account and set the realmlist up..

>>532090437
I wonder what the devs must think with all these new signups. Soon they may have tens of players

Whats the most hunter coded race?

>>532090298
aoiyuki will do just that, she is a succubus

>>532090552
Dwarf, Tauren, Night Elf

>>532090552
Half-Ogre

>>532090552
Gnome

WATCHYERBECK
DID'YAHAVTARGET

I can't decide between human or nelf for my priest, both are cute

>>532090987
Nelf for FLAVOR

>>532090298
Yeah make a character there and post its name here. I’ll hypnotize you and make you a slave to my balls.

>>532091094
Hot! Race?

>>532090554
Will do!

I love playing Dwarf. But im so sick of Alliance now I have seen it so many times and not played Horde since actual vanilla-TBC. I think this is the best time to try it again what with cross faction anyway. People like Tauren right?

Why didn't the Epoch devs include a custom race for release? They had years to implement one or two.

>>532090552
dwarf no contest
>b-but--
dwarf

>>532091207
Goblin.

>>532091490
Even hotter. Any kind of slut you prefer?

>>532091246
>anon expects custom races when even custom dungeon mechanics don't work
bro..

>>532091547
High elf femboy. Bratty and snobby.

>>532089457
>>532090298
Asalys...

>>532091707
Any female prefs? I don't like playing femboys.

>>532092004
Eh, fuck you buddeh!

>>532083398
Pls respond

>create character
>femhelf priest
>TRP pronouns: he/him
yep, it's gaming time.

>>532093513
epoch could never

Is the /wpsg/ in Turtle in the PvE carebear realm or the PvP realm

>>532094507
*guild

>>532094507
carebear ofc

>>532057986
Magma totem

>>532095086
why?

50-60 kind of sucks, just makes me want to make a new character

>>532095205
fully progressed easy to do stuff
xfaction

>>532095250
was the worst part for me too
then i had tons of fun doing prebis grind
then i have hated raiding since

>>532095205
why would it be on the underpopulated PVP server instead of the primary server with cross-faction? if you want one on the PVP server make one

Is cross-faction just taken as a positive thing in private-server world? It sounds kind of lame
Why would I want to have an undead in the same party as a night elf

>xhe thinks tel'abim was anything but an appeasement for PVP autists who kept spamming the discord for a freshie server

>>532095949
it's really great to fix an issue pservers had/have: low population
better to pool your 100 players together than split them. now you can actually do dungeons and raids without having to worry if there are literally no healers online for your faction

for one i like the novelty of interacting with others in world pvp and the world. just fun to shit talk or even rp with anyone

>>532095949
turtle wow started out as a heavily RP focused server, and cross-faction is generally liked among the RP crowd for obvious reasons, so it's just had it from the start
other than that it's nice to not have to argue about which faction the guild should be on etc

also >>532095949
>Why would I want to have an undead in the same party as a night elf
that's like the most extreme example you can take. ally and horde team up in lore fairly often, and there's nothing particularly weird about a night elf druid and a tauren druid teaming up, for example, or even a human and orc in circumstances that demand it (tirion fordring my goat)

>azerotica comes with lewd starter gear
The hunter outfit for human females is perfect to get hypnoraped in

>>532096369
>that's like the most extreme example you can take
it's almost as if that was the point, to show the absurdity of it

Dude over here is cannibalizing a corpse while the night elf right next to him is saying a prayer to Elune

>>532096619
>it's almost as if that was the point, to show the absurdity of it
yeah and i was pointing out that the most absurd example shouldn't be the primary driver on if there should be cross faction or not
the wow faction system is kind of dogshit and allows for 0 nuance so i'd rather have xfaction grouping and communication than not

ya

In the parking lot, why not? It so cool when you're on top. His front lawn, in the snow. Laughin so hard cause Stabby doesn't know, Stabby doesn't know.
I did her on his birthday.

>>532096868
It was a funny joke at first but you are bragging about having internet sex with another man so now it’s a very funny joke but in a completely different way.

>>532096598
Post it

so the drama between fish and stab was because they were competing for who gets to fuck sunethil (male) ?
the fuck is wrong with you faggots

>>532097317
Cause Stabby doesn't know
Stabby doesn't know
Stabby doesn't know
Stabby doesn't know
Don't tell Stabby
Stabby doesn't knooooooow

>>532097594
Yes. And neither of them got to ERP with Sunethil.

>>532097693
stabby doesn't know

>>532097317
TRVKE

>>532047405
God, I wish human female were real

redpill me on fmc and the pupper pals?

>>532097594
Dont judge till you know how good the bussy is, I really want to find out now, it has to be good if it drove 2 of them mad.

>>532097914
It’s not that great but Stab and Fish are both virgins irl so

>>532097908
they are cursed lands that adventurers would be wise to avoid

>>532097994
That's a lie, I fucked both of them and Sunethil doesn't know.

>>532098067
i just wanna know about the other wpsg guild that isn't listed

>>532097885
She fucks dogs

>>532097413
I got off already. Unhypnotized and unraped.

>>532098086
Sunny doesn't know that fish and stab do in my van every Sunday. They tell her they're in church but they doesn't go and they're on their knees and Sunny doesn't know!

I can't believe Epoch is less than a week away
assuming it isn't crashing/unplayable the first few days...

>>532098530
Yeah it's gonna be great to be able to play the game

How long will I need to wait on Pochie post-release to have a somewhat normal game experience (not have 1000 niggers competing for every quest mob and so on)?
A day? 2 days? A week?

>>532089004
gnome priest because I like shortstacks
I will also be sending care packages full of pots, buff food, and bandages to any tank frens I meet along the way

>>532098696
The real problem is the 5k player cap. You're going to be sitting in the queue for a while.

>>532098885
THE AURORA BORIALIS???

>>532049128
There will definitely be a rush when the wrath is dropped, but then people will quickly get filtered from the crooked pathfinding and strong troon community that has too much power on server.

>>532098885
I thought you said we were having steaming Fish?

>>532098360
what a coincidence, me too

>>532098885
Has Epoch really garnered this much hype that this will be a problem even a week post-release?

Hey dudes.
I had pretend sex with a pretend woman.

>>532099283
No, steamed stab. It's an Albany expression.

The character Sunethil also has a penis.
And she knows how to use it from what I was told.

it was real for me, that quest we did together and then the farewell, this is whats important

>>532099568
I know who you are.

>>532099902
Jib

i never make any friends in wow

>>532099890
thats so funny aoiyuki

>>532100060
not everyone is aoi Zaptuah

>>532099568
OH NO NO NO
WAIT WAIT WAIT

>stab and fish are fighting over a tranny who plays a tranny

Is there any questing addon that will work for epoch?
Obviously since its got a bunch of original quests/content the usual shit won't work

all the drama is not real right? i refuse to believe you niggas act like highschool girls frfr

>>532099402
The video for the shitty cashgrab copycat that Ascension announced already has something like 19k views, Epoch is going to get several times as many players.

>>532100412
what no pussy does to a nigga

>>532100593
No. It’s real. Fish and Stab are both insufferable cunts who have been in a months long slapfight over who gets to suck some tranny’s cock. It’s as gay as it gets.

>>532100593
it's real and failed normalfags acting like high schoolers is a fact of life in all /vg/ mmorpg generals

so fish won? Haha that nigger gay.

Sunethil made Fish suck her dick and fucked his bussy raw no lube. Not in that order.

>>532101459
Giwtwm

warlocks are fucking slaves to the destruction tree

>>532101675
why? i've been playing demonology and affliction, i switched to destro for a bit but realized i'd have to switch out all my shadow power gear for fire and went back

>>532101546
That’s so funny Stab

>>532102014
not everyone is stab Stabdotexe

>>532069771
All of them are silently judging you for playing a female character.

playing priest in pservers reminded me of how much they murdered shadow priest themes in retail

>>532069771
>faustian human male warrior charging in
this picture is amazing. it ticks all the boxes.

>>532069771
that human male saved her and then they made sweet love in the tall grass of hillsbrad

>>532100593
Only like 20% of this arrives in the thread, and with weeks of delay.

>>532069771
On Epoch, that Human Male Warrior would be able to Bladestorm and cut down all of those filthy hordies

>>532102875
This is true, I was there. I'm the grass.

>>532098621
>launch is on a saturday 6pm CEST
yeah, I will just go to bed early and play the next day

>>532102973
it's gonna be really tough for alliance on Epoch because let's face it, warmode balance will be 20/80 so situations like that will happen.

>>532103386
no one is playing noshoes on a pve server with race swap and trannymog. every chud is playing human male with helm showing and xmog off and every troon is playing femnelf or femhuman with a slutmog

When I say I don’t want to play with anons on Epoch I specifically means anons like Fish, Stab, Aoi, Zap, Elicia, Asa, Elaynna, Jib, Torzarg, Fuu, Filthy, Telol, and other faggots who act like retarded babies because they have no real life.

I will play a fem Night Elf rogue that wields fist weapons and likes femdom

>>532100414
pfQuest WoTLK + pfQuest-epoch

https://project-epoch-wow.fandom.com/wiki/AddOns

>rogue is almost useless
>shaman have spellweaving shit
>paladins are slow af and forced to be healsluts
>warriors are 80% of server population
i just want to play melee

>>532104382
Bladestorm is a meme. Druids and Paladins are going to be better than warriors.

>>532103824
add nuretard to that list

>>532104501
>Paladins are going to be better than warriors

Why did pochie devs make rogue energy back to it's tick based system? I hate that shit.

>>532104382
Rogue can't be useless because you'll always want one for expose armor debuff. The 10s kick is also huge utility.

Anyone who play Season of Mastery might also recall that Rogues were like by far the most played class, because they did the most damage in raids (there were no world buffs). Obviously we have TBC talents and some modifications but I wouldn't rule Rogue out as a top DPS they could be very good.

>>532105158
classic 'tism

>>532104501
kek

>Pochie in 5 days
Just split my dick and call me Caitlin!

>>532105185
>you'll always want one
Yeah, one. Also one shaman cause totems are raid-wide.

>>532105185
fuck dudio, now i wanna roll with a rogue

>>532104382
>>532105158
Combat Rogues with Axe spec and Orc racials seems like it will be pretty decent. The bleed from axe spec will keep up your slice n dice and there are some good slow one handed axes and fast offhanders as well.

>Redirect
>Transfers any existing combo points to the current enemy target. Requires active combo points. Does not break stealth.
>Cooldown: 1 minute

I will put an end to this unnecessary drama by raping Sune, Stab and Fish into submission over and over again until all three happily suckle away on my cock and balls. I'll make sure everyone gets an equal amount of playtime with my meaty tip.

Do we really need so many retarded autistic gooner posts?
I'm not a big anti-gooner, but if it was at least something hot. No, of course not, it has to be grown men talking about other grown men sucking on their cock, and raping them.

>>532105613
You forgot it's not off GCD so it's complete ass to use in pvp

if i can't get some playtime in on saturday and sunday the next opportunity will be thursday next week. wagie cage is suffering.

>dwarf war main
>nelf tranny coomer
>gnome onions
Since the devs play the alliance exclusively we can assume the horde has way less and lower quality quests?

>>532105831
There is this thing your grandpa used called telephonesex, for only one dollar per minute you can listen to a real biofem talking dirty to you, maybe that's something for you.

>>532107021
they don't charge only a dollar anymore sadly

>>532105831
>grown men sucking on their cock, and raping them
h-hot, keep posting please

>>532103869
how many of these are must have addons?

>>532105661
I don't think any one of those people care. It's a shit stirring faggot that just loves causing drama.

>>532107331
this poster is a biofem, worse yet, a filthy fujoshi

>>532099381
based

>>532100593
bro most anons still playing mmos are manchildren stuck in the HS loop. which is fine, because a whole country (japan) is stuck there as well

>>532106737
Option A) Horde
>your faction is unloved by the dev so it gets new generic collect 20 bear asses quest from level 1 - 60
Option B) Alliance
>your faction is loved by the coomer devs so you get brand new erp quests from level 1 - 60
Pick your poison.

>>532108316
You have to be some virtual virgin not to pick B

Ascension question:
If I level up a character and I don't like their build in free pick, do I need to make a new guy or?
Also how good are the "default" builds?

demo was already better than destro in tbc (go look up parses if you don't believe me), the problem was felguard dying making it aids to play and thus worse for the average player
Epoch gives the 90% aoe mitigation ensuring felguard won't die thus demolock will be the top dps spec
simple as

>>532108752
yea, destro is ass until they give it a proper key stone
affli will depend on what kind of gear is available

is there a list of what can get enchanted with what? I only really know of armor kits and shield spikes.

>>532108986
as long as ruin exists true affli will never be a thing in tbc

>>532109129
it's kind of funny how obvious it is which classes the devs play

>>532109254
so much of warlock could be fixed by just moving ruin up one fucking tier, but nah lets give brownies bladestorm instead

>>532108752
>go look up parses if you don't believe me
Are you retarded?

>>532109381
>high rollers
set it to 99

>>532109647
>Not a single demolock
>Movin' goalposts already
Looning out are we?

>>532109647
>use some retarded metric instead of DPS
No.

БACCЫ CTAЛЬГOPHA PAЗБУДИЛИ H'ЗOTA

>>532109381
>anonymous not even top 10
Explain yourself.

>>532107768
Idk, I play without addons.

>>532109381
Post tankerman ranking.

>>532110212
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/1013?class=Tanks
Reminder bearbvll is the top tier tank for high test pvmplords, LT4s hate bear because they can't play bear for shit and think it has "low threat" (????).
Never trust a lunatic troonatic.

>>532110326
tread carefully when picking your class

>>532110498
>phase 5
we're going to be stuck on MC and Ony for 6 months

>>532110212
>>532110326
>ecuck buffed bears
Worrisome.

>>532110498
>pick a healer
>don't have to care about any of this dick measuring shit

Tailoring/Enchanting
Herb/Alch

which one for priest bros?

>>532110751
alchemy herba for sure, healslut uses mana potions on cooldown and all guilds will have designated enchanting slut anyway

>>532110618
Some retards do care about healing parses. Don't ask me why, probably the dumbest WoW related metric.

>>532110567
>Buffs bear (by far the strongest tank) with even more DPS and even easier time doing warden/OT bullshit (Why yes, our OT and MT are both actually DPS at the click of a fucking button)
>Does NOTHING for warriors and paladins other than giving them the buffed version of 1h mastery from wrath (hopefully)
>Does not fix palatank's insane gearing issue
>Does not fix brownman issue with needing a shitton of gear to do okay threat
Epoop literally has no idea about tank balance, very blizzlike.
Btw, in T4-6 it is the same, a wall of orange with 20 druids for every non-druid.

>>532110498
>That huge ass range/error bars for demonology
Do warlocks have some sort of high skill rotation they need to pull of in TBC? If it was just pet management you'd expect BM hunters to have the huge ass range too but they don't.

>>532098885
>5k player cap
Proofs?

>>532099381
My man

>>532111029
The "High skill" rotation of getting lucky and hoping your demon doesn't get instantly turned to ash with something that is functionally out of your control.

>>532111029
tbc had no pet protection so it could very easily die to any random bullshit, those high demo parses are when pet survived and those low ones are where pet died early

>>532111029
hunter had mend pet, demo has channel thats not even worth casting

>>532111329
BM pets are also meatier than demons by a magnitude so getting them healed is possible.
Demons do die to splash damage once you leave tier 4.

5 sleepies until Pochie.

1 sleepy until name reservation

Main?
Bear.
Farm method?
High test tankbvll services (brownies and 2shotties need not apply).

Epoop?
Poppin' off.

>>532110565
They changed it to one month, if I remember correctly. Either way, it sucks. 1 or 6... It sucks.

They have no ideia of what they are doing, I swear.

Any good private servers?>>532039137 (OP)
good job to whoever cleaned up the OP.

>>532112089
azerotica

>>532110876
yup that's me, I need to stop caring about it

>>532112146
I was on it, it said it has custom content. I was kinda surprised.

>try Warmane
>get five levels after two starting area quests
What the fuck is this?

>>532112213
they're scaling down northrend to 60

>>532110876
What's wrong with healing metrics? if dps can fawn over dps why not healing with healers?

You pussies better flag in Ashenvale.

>>532111029
The huge range a lot of the time depends on if you were chain fed lists/group comp/pet death, the actual rotation is pressing one button

>>532112005
They haven't devved shit, the server is going to deathspiral like V+ and they'll never release new content because their playerbase will be like, 30 guys.
It was fucking over the attosecond they used tbcuck balance that only loonatics in 4chan enjoy out of pure contrarianism.
TBCuck is literally vanilla gameplay and they are aiming for wrath level of encounter design, so enjoy half the classes missing the tools to deal with shit.
Gotta deal with casters? Hope you bought brown man or yellow man and that they got a spare gcd.
Gotta tank more than 3 adds in a boss fight? Hope you bought a geared and fully consoomed pinky tank or you aren't progging that shit today buckaroo.
Etc.., it doesn't seem like a "big deal" but it absolutely will buckbreak 99% of guilds come level 60 and send the server in a death spiral.
Like fucking V+, btw. You cannot have complicated end game when your class design is incompetent.

>>532112307
>What's wrong with healing metrics?
Everything.

>>532112325
Hmmm nyooo I wanna comfy kino quest

Will people look down on me on Epoch if i play without addons?

>>532112373
>You cannot have complicated end game when your class design is incompetent.
it works for turtle.

>>532112234
It's called increased exp rate

>>532112307
Healer parses are very, VERY easy to abuse.
In raw ass damage pre-cata/mop dropping 2-3 dots in the fight will often skyrocket you to a 99% because nobody does dps as healer.
In raw healing it is very easy to end up over geared, bring a third tank and tell them to stand in fire while you pump healing into them to make the number go up.
A healer "Doing More DPS" is also meaningless because how small it is, the only content where healer DPS is almost meaningful is hyper high-end M+ where everyone is expected to play perfectly for the sake of beating an impossible number and even there it is pretty meaningless (totally, the reason you didn't time a key is because you missed that 5% of a DPS' damage a perfectly played healer would've bought).

>>532112543
Why?
I want to play the game the normal way not hit 60 in 30 minutes.

>>532112483
obviously nobody is going to care dude are you stupid or something?

>>532112432
I don't understand.
>>532112483
Probably some people, but chances are the people who look down on you will be level 60 in a week and you'll be maybe 20.
>>532112567
I understand. Thank you.

>>532112496
>turtle
>complicated end game

>>532112496
>Turtle end game
>Complicated
Call me when troondle MC expects every class to have retail level mobility or perfect coordination between 40 people to not die on gar.

>>532089004
Nelf rogue because f*ck orc scum

>>532112636
>>532112665
Kara U

They're afraid

Boomer niggas got hardwalled in Turtle Naxx when it's easier than a heroic dungeon from MoP and they call it complicated end fame

532112739
Epoch is literally doa.
Their elitist tuning of the vanilla into retail raid slop will not end well for them.

>>532112730
>>532112714
>>532112665
>>532112636
>>532112632
>>532112628
>>532112609
>>532112567
Don't care, still playing on the 'Poch.

>>532112730
>1, and latest, raid out of 6 or more
>One (1) instance of "complicated" raiding
I don't think you grasp how retarded V+ difficulty was.

>>532112769
they don't call em crybooms for nothing lol

>>532112307
Healing metrics aren't even accurate measure of skill
If your players stand in fire you get a "better" parse
If your raid can run 1-2 fewer healer(s) on a fight, you get a "better" parse

So more than dps classes, healer parses are more a matter of circumstance than actual skill

>>532112714
>Nelf rogue because (f*ck...) orcs' cum

>>532112820
>tuning of the vanilla into retail raid slop
From the datamined Garr spells that sounds right. They're mixing boring gameplay and weak spells talents for most specs (specially healers) while throwing them into retail raids. Shit can't end well.

the ascension one looks neat but its like years away right?

>>532112878
>1, and latest, raid out of 6 or more
they want to do more, they want to do grim batol in the same vein.
>I don't think you grasp how retarded V+ difficulty was.
you're probably right for what it's worth I agree, I think kara u is stretching the limits of the vanilla client. could be grimbatol is nerfed due to player feedback about kara u being mixed.

>>532113046
Not ETA currently it's been in dev for years.
maybe we'll get it next year, maybe we'll in a couple months.
Probably not years away though, they're starting to advertise more.

>>532112971
>add a spell to Garr where he puts a swirly under your feet where you have 5 seconds to react
>THIS IS TOO COMPLICATED AND RETAIL-LIKE, HOW WILL I CLEAR THIS??
Cryboomers I swear

How will i get my ashbringer as a ret paladin if epoch does not have LFG?

>>532113061
The main issue with complexity in vanilla is mechanical, coordinating 40+ people is functionally impossible and secondarily the 1.12.0 client being a mess. Grim batol is likely gonna be nerfed imho.

Also V+ was basically wrath-cata mechanics, with the ultra scuffed and barebones vanilla classes AND with 40 instead of 10 or 25 guys. Gar demanded everyone positioned perfectly 5 or so yards away from each other or the entire raid wipes, and also continuously moved players around and bunched them up in a game where only 3 classes have mobility spells and one of them just has a mono directional mobility (intercept) and the other two have 2+ min CD.
He did that displacement multiple times per fight.
Also every number was incredibly overtunned on anything past BRD Arena because BRD arena and onwards where raid level shit (you had to farm the bosses to get pieces to build your tier 1, Tier 2 was going to work in a similar way).

>>532113190
Nobody complains that it is too hard, it is just bad and annoying. You go and play on your 1k Epooch server but stop pretending it is good.

They're scared

Will pochie have ten billion warriors? I like warrior because of rage and the fact it's melee but having to compete with so many for loot sucks ass. Maybe I'll roll warlock

>>532113512
Having to be slightly aware of what you're doing in the game instead of pressing one button while watching YouTube on your other monitor so annoying, why can't every boss be a target dummy that gives you a loot chest after 30 seconds?

>>532113190
>one insta-dead spell
>2 other big AoEs
>minion summoning
Sounds annoying as fuck and retail, yes. Nobody but you said that's hard BTW.

>>532113650
How am I supposed to goon and ERP if the game demands I play it?!

Yeah, i'm staying on Turtle.

Need woggies in the next OP so bad

>>532113718
Algalon did exactly that 18 years ago and Garr is easier, are you worse than teenagers that raided on Core 2 Duos getting 20 fps that cleared Wrath?

>>532113889
Again, you're the only one saying it's hard. Is reading that hard for you too, Anon?

woggies

>>532113889
You are talking to a loony troony.

>>532112325
Ashenvale?
Sorry, I'm gonna be too busy killing Alliance on Zoram Strand

>>532113995
Anyone who thinks that it's annoying or bad where the mechanic is "don't stand in the void zone" is a genuine shit player so I know it will be hard for you.

>>532113650
Nigger, the criticism is that this trash server is changing too much. Some buggy retail-lite bullshit added onto it is just another one of the arrogant devs' mistakes.

>>532114230
>boss have more and cooler spells than then players
Sounds annoying to me. Maybe if we had WotLK classes it would be better.
>bragging about skill on WoW
Guess that explain your reading comprehension.

Reminder loony troonies here would love a server like Azerotica.

>>532114393
>moving out of a circle is considered retail Mythic raiding to people that can't clear vanilla Naxx
Jesus christ

>>532114481
if you want to argue against strawmen without anyone noticing, then you should check out generals like /nikg/ or some other braindead gachatrash place.

>>532114441
I am going to reroll on Azerotica if bindings don't drop on wednesday

>>532114571
Thinking that Epoch Garr is retail-lite and an insane challenge is the most smoothbrain thing I've read all month, please stick to Classic Era or something.

Can't decide between plapper or plapee spec on 'poch...

>>532114640
Enjoy your 1k pop server.

why can't crybooms enjoy anything?

<PLAP>

>i-it's just this o-one mechanic! i-i swear everything else is v-very good
>t-t-t-trust the d-devs!
5 more days. The clock is ticking :3

>>532114747
Cryboomers will break their keyboard if a boss has more than one mechanic and takes longer than 25 seconds to kill

>>532114679
>1k pop
Nta but I fucking wish it was somewhere between 1k-2k

>>532114747
crybooms enjoy gooning and that's it

>>532114850
Don't worry, it will be in like 2 to 3 weeks after release.

Reminder that a 5-second reaction time is downright geriatric compared to retail.
2 seconds for an interrupt is already slow

>>532114640
>insane challenge
Again, said nobody but (you).

I'll be honest I play wow for a chill time not to mixmax autimo feista. I'll epoch to explore but if you guys are running some hardcore server I'll just play something else.

>>532114664
why not both

>>532114982
If you have reaction times better than your grandpa then you'll be fine on Epoch, the content really isn't that hard. The people screaming about the difficulty are the type of players who show up almost blackout drunk every raid and die from standing in Magmadar fire

I think it's time to split /wpsg/ into /epog/ and /turtleg/.

>>532114982
Its not hardcore but this is how it always starts. By the end you will have mechanics that are unfun and annoying and people will conflate it with difficulty. It is literally the same path blizzard took. I see so much shit that Epoch is doing and all i see is history repeating itself and the same mistakes being made. The moment i saw what they done to the starter zones and class "balance" i knew the devs are retarded beyond belief.