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>Gacha Leaders: Filene, Aether, Titaniahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa58Bv-AhTE
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>>532089667
Finally, some good fucking food
Dragonsisters how do we cope about how we’ll probably be tier 3 again in a week?
>>532108192 (OP)>used to be mad about people calling her ho-chan>now it's literally her name
>>532102991Is this really the only way to make dirt diamond-worthy? I have 0 A&G and I fucking hate them so I don't want to craft
I feel bad for lamp dragon bros. They are suffering for two sets in a row.
Kek this deck is fun
>haha I'm not face dragon
>haha I'm not aggro abyss too
>>532108341Just play without her she's not core. Decide later if the deck feels too bad without her, you're usually going for lol3golems anyways
>play lilanthim on empty board
>opponent instantly plays odin
>waits 10 seconds before attacking
remember to be nice to swordbabbies
>>532108292I managed to pull the entirety of sword in under 40 packs so im just playing that until next expansion
>>532108309she stopped caring a while ago
https://svgdb.me/assets/audio/jp/vo_716431010_1.mp3
>>532108341https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXhemMCq0xY
>>532108292we suffer till we turn into batshit insane memelords, same as always.
>Diamond Sapphire vs Diamond Master
>Sapphire player instantly plays 2 drop without any 5 drop in hand instead of catapult
>Gets punished t4
You love to see it
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>Opponent could only get 14 damage burst from hand with their d-climb (they had 0 board at the start of this turn btw)
>Could only clear my board down to exactly die at 14
It's so crazy how much chip damage matters in this game
>>532108462exclusively for people who have her leader card. otherwise it's this leader line
https://svgdb.me/assets/audio/jp/vo_3304_000_007_0.mp3
Lmao I can't believe I hit diamond with face dragon
>A3
You have no fucking idea how SHIT this deck is.
That A3 Diamond is worth multiple tournament wins against JP pros with KMR blessed RNG (cheating)
>>532108415If she's not core why is every list 3x with her
>>532108465? This also has 3 A&G
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what a brick
>>532108541Why? Are you telling me he loses because he gives opponent a target to unload stream of life?
>>532108607I was just seeing that, we'll call it karmic justice for all the dirty dclimbers who farm me on ladder.
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>>532108541Holy shit this guy. Is there a reason he's saving cannon?
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>men in 2025
GRIM
>>532108581told you face dragon actually works more often under a blue moon and when all stars align unlike fishcraft
>>532108607>penelope in a spellchud deckwhat the fuck are runeniggers doing
>>532108541honestly it is a big brained move to play jasper on t2 instead ironheart
just roped a runenigger then proceed to finish him with my Centaur
how are your matches, /svg/?
Chest event not active: ranked feels like its not rewarding. Chest event active, hate everything about it
>>532108697Face dragon is top tier.
If the tier list was "best decks to play on a second monitor while you watch runescape youtube videos"
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value-oriented rune player saving his evolves for the next game
I wish I could see my opponent's hand in replays so much.
I'm always so curious.
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Who are the players in the tournament? Can't be pros from the way you guys are talking about them.
WATCH WHERE YOU SPIT THAT FIRE
>>532108764next set will be ours. they will learn to fear dragons again!
>le lamp dragon
One won the lobby I was in last week, and there's two of them
>>532108607and of course the runenigger won.
nice "brick" btw.
>>532108914https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEk5cIxwSIk
Some top 16 tourney. I don't know how many player competed though because some of these players are kinda bad.
sword's worst matchup btw
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>meanwhile, sword raping an artifact player
>>532109062kuon is basically as much burst as albert (11 vs 12), but also a great play when not killing the opponent
>>532109114>3 cards vs 8sword has no draw btw
>>532109062He didn't even need the dboost. That's how bad the portal player played.
>>532109114that is some giga brick lel did he blow his gundam too early?
Portal is such a fraud tier 1 deck. It loses to any actual top tier deck and is only favored vs the really shitty decks.
>>532109176If he rng a DClimb, that would be 22 vs 12
How's storm haven right now?
>>532109195it's not sword fault artifact list cut sylvia
>>532109345Haven as whole is kinda dogshit honestly
>Aggro vs midrange
LOL IT'S FUCKING OVER
Bro you're mindbroken, we didn't even start playing
that sword hand is insane
>>532109345Garbage but you might catch some people of guard with Agnes because nobody knows she exists
>aggro abyss is going first against sword with zirconia on-curve
it's so over
>>532109345Hybrid haven is the best build, but its still only mid tier.
>>532109345Better than ward, but still mid
>Topdecks just the card he needs
SWORDBROS THIS IS FUCKIGN RIGGED
>>532109520Nah, hybrid is too slow
>>532109278How many people are even still playing the old game? Surely it's beyond dead by this point.
>>532109258It wipes sword's board sometimes so it's an unrivaled monster that can do everything better than anyone according to some people here
>>532109504double albert is actually a stinker here, but the rest is enough to make up for it against
as I say that, he rips aragavy though
god why is jappa sound quality always so fucking bad?
well at least they're having fun
that 1/1 trade was terrible, what was he playing around?
>>532109583Are you saying storm haven is fast?
>>532109646If you high roll, yeah
>>532109345imagine something like aggro abyss
except you don't kill anyone through early game pressure
and lose to rune and roach because you don't actually pressure them
and lose to swordkeks if the game goes late
and don't have heals vs aggro so you lose these games too
so basically not like aggro abyss at all
that aragavy topdeck won the game
He actually stood there thinking for 15 seconds after SEVOing and then hit Orchis. I guess he was too used to autoplaying Amelia into Magus and winning off that all the way into diamond.
>Get on a decently good win streak
>Start to draw like this
Fucking why, my mulligan was amalia and 2 jenos
>odin sevo 7
>odin sevo 7
nice game
>>532100396Updated play rate
Rune: 13
Portal: 8
Sword: 4
Abyss: 3
Haven: 1
Forest: 1
Finals were Abyss/Rune vs Sword/Abyss, ended up being Abyss vs Sword, Abyss won
>>532109775shut the fuck up retard
>>532109510someone quick call an ambulance
>>532109883Cry harder the abyss player conceded anyway
Bros? I thought that was a sword favored matchup? And he was going 2nd too?
THIS GAME IS SO FUCKING SLOW
>>532109851>abyss and sword are dogshit and lose to everything!>mfw
>>532109962Sword only wins against opponents that brick.
>>532109962>Topdecks just the card you need>Don't draw your luminous mage when you need it most>LoseIt is how it is.
>do 30 damage to abyssnigger
>still at 15
ogey
>>532109424>>532109508>>532109520>>532109523>>532109680Game is trolling though
I opened 90 packs and it's what I got. I can't build anything
>>532110136>The vampire healsOh no!
>>532109851>aggro abyss is only good for grinding ladder it has a shit winrate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I7TL7ANDtQ
The clash of the century
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It's funny how haven is supposed to be the heal slut craft but every other craft heals better than haven, except from maybe forest
>>532110096I haven't seen my luminous mage in so long I'm starting to wonder if it's even in my deck
>>532109851Decklists anywhere?
shadowverse law:
if its 2x in your deck you will never see it
if its 3x, it will appear
>>532110138build aggro abyss or tempo forest while you wait to open more
>>532110138just use vials dumdum
I remember SV1 had a website that unofficially tracked the average ladder winrates of all the archetypes in the meta. What happened to it? Is there any equivalent for SV2?
>>532110273Left collect ojisans and impressionable rookie e-sports fuckboys like cards.
Right fuck her own papa behind her mom back.
t. VSPOfag
>>532110434>Aggro without Aragavy or OdinGrim
>>532109489What did you banish to cause that?
>Don't have aragravy to make aggro abyss
What are my options?
>>532109489There is no way in hell he wins that anyway tbqh. Should have just quit right at the start.
>>532110405Nonsense. I draw Odin consistently and I only have 2 of him.
>>532110570You have no other options. He's the best card in your deck
>>532110520Right is the clear winner then
>>532109489that is a 95-5 matchup
>>532110570Pretend that you have him in your deck but that you're just crazy unlucky and never draw him. Also, you lose every time.
BAHAHA I do have a grimnir in my deck, somehow it hasn't showed up in 8 games
>>532110520>VSPOWhats that?
>>532110625Actually Exella is but w/e
Can someone explain/link a video to learn Roach math
>>532110727>actually doing math and planning your lethalngmi
>>532110405that one sylvia in my deck bricked my hand every game
i had to cut her it was so bad
>>532110676>aNot seeing a 1 of in 8 games isn't that unlikely unless you're playing rune or some shit that draws nearly your entire deck.
>>532110727https://youtu.be/AuX7nPBqDts?feature=shared
Best deck to farm boxes in A3 emerald/topaz?
>>532110817I haven't needed it anyways, unlike that time I made it to turn 7 as portal not drawing a single alouette, resurgence, catapult or karula
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>>532108292There is no cope. Only lamping.
>>532110894aggro abyss always
The only problem ward haven really has it that there is no win con. Midrange Abyss for example can just outgrind you and wait for you to deck out.
Though gotta say, as a Haven main I'm happy we are back to being low tier. I'm really not a fan of the 20+ turn mirrors.
>>532110695Virtual Esport project. Despite the name only 3 peoples I consider esport tier. Noah, Tsuna (washed up) and Moka (only SF6).
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Umineko collab leaders:
>dragon - Battler
>sword - Jessica
>abyss - Ronove
>portal - Ange
>forest - Eva-Beatrice
>rune - Beatrice
>haven - Dlanor
>>532110987>only SF6i have no idea how people can play/watch that boring ass game
>>532110921How fast do you lose with this deck? I might actually try this out if games end in less than 5 minutes.
>>532110543you should craft 2 odin anyways, you still give yourself leeway to open a third and he's useful everywhere. shame about aragavy, you don't own aria either?
>>532110928>>532110949Bro i can go as easy as 30 losestreak with that shit
>>532110520>Right fuck her own papa behind her mom back.HOT
Hi newfag here is artifact a midrange deck? Should I just go puppets seems simpler but I like the gundam
>>532111173>A flexible deck that can play either defensively or offensivelyYep that's midrange.
>>532109587I still get matches within minutes in rotation ranked, T2 and gran prixes. Not sure about unlimited but let's not go there.
>>532110520>Right fuck her own papa behind her mom back.picked the fuck up
>>532111173If you like the Gundam then stick with artifact and start learning how to play because it'll help you later on. Puppet is very simple and there's not much to learn. It's also struggling currently whole artifact is thriving.
Why is Pascale showing off her lewd pitussy in the crest? What a slut.
>>532110740It was self-reported stats, by people manually inputting their data.
That site was shut down after a few years because retards were feeding it false data to downplay their deck's winrate
I want /svg/ to guess which craftmains were doing it.
it was swordbabs and hags
>>532111320I guessed correctly
>>532110954im trying to play the long game with you as control mecha but the matchup is unplayable
>4hp min. when my gamma board clear is 3 dmg>jeanne can clean out even an artifact board buffed by ralmia>mecha fanfare aoe dmg is a joke compared to the hp of you wards>if i ever get to win the board you just grail broi refuse to play beta spam but at this rate your haglads are gonna make me do it...
So is sword top tier now? Or do they still geting bullied by runes and artifacts?
>>532111320It was still pretty nice back in the day when I played around 8 years ago. I wish something like that existed today.
>>532111320every fucking time
So what did we learn from this tournament?
>artifag can run odin
what the fuck is this shit man it's unbeatable
odin odin orchis or karula if he needs health into gundam
triple wincon
>>532111314she was always a footslut, what are you even talking about
>>532111475topdecking is a skill
Will they ever give puppets a way to deal with luminous mage
>>532111515Look at her crest in game, she's showing off her armpit in your face in it.
>>532111545luck has always been a skill
>>532111475If you cannot manifest the cards you need to win every game why are you even playing
>>532110954It's pretty much the same wincon that us to have a board (aether) then buff (jeanne)
>>532111551bro your noah?
>>532111551broooo just apollo them XDDdd
>>532111475partecipants weren't good so it wasn't worth watching
>>532111551Start running Apollo again lol
I just can't make forest work
>>532111551Lishenna and her groupies will give puppets mass AOE at cost of killing own followers.
How many times can you rematch? Can you keep going forever?
You can still win without Aragravy but you will have a hell out of a time versus board-based craft like Sword
When I play roach I don't lose to you, I lose to myself
>>532111475rune and sword are the most broken decks, who would have known
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>>532111551pray they reprint puppet bomb
>>532111808but abyss won the whole thing?
>>532108192 (OP)Jesus fucking christ, this guy had everything. Meanwhile I get one ginsetsu and get my Cerb right before I would have died otherwise.
>>532111417Yeah seems about right. I had some artifact players just quit early because they couldnt clear my board.
Good for you that ward haven is kinda ass all around lol. I already switched to storm.
>>532111813What are their plans? Are they just going to reprint things I don't get the new game still
>>532110993I don't know who this girl is or why do you think she fits portal but she's cute so I would swipe
>>532111813>4pp>only kill 1 with selfIsn't this kinda bad
>>532111046You lose quickly, but winning, not so much. Sometimes it ends fast; sometimes it goes to turn 10 or more. I'm in ruby, so probably not much of a reference.
I am way too good at this game
>>532111996iirc she was a smug bitch and the best part of that garbage so i will gladly take her for my craft
Does she have any decks? I want to play with her.
>>532109851AbyssGODs run this shit
>>532109851dragonbros.....
You dare try to out aggro me....?
>>532112169sharkman should be neutral ngl
>>532109851Where are your skeleton jpgs NOW
How much you guys whaled? I droped like 100$ on the game and thinking of getting more, though it feels bad without any of the bundles or other rewards and just blow them on 10er packs
>>532112169>mom look i won against bricked abyssok
What do you think the Omen designs will be like given the power level of SV2?
midrange abyss is trash. why is everyone pushing this meme.
>>532112437sorry you lost to t5 deck abysschud
Why would someone choose to be a runenigger
Ridiculous
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What a meta, every class is represented
that new 8pp dirt legendary is basically lapis but playable (and in a craft with cards which can carry that sort of nonsense)
>>532112509post dicklist now
>>532112421I only bought the first farer pack or whatever for $2. If there's a bp or collab leader I like then I'll actually pay up.
>>5321124210 bux
will prolly buy the 2 bucks deal tho later on
was thinking on buying luna but since i got cerb im feeling ok now
>>532112539its just the classic dirt without OD satan, 2x lilianthum, 2x odin , 2x Kuon and the rest is standard
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what the fuck
>>532112491It's not my fault the game gave me every rune leggo without crafting any.
>>532112509Healthy 5 craft meta. No nerfs. NEXTO!
When you start to lose to decks that need combo multiple cards to do their thing, it's sign that you should quit the game and play again tomorrow. KMR rigged your matches.
>>532112491There is no shame in playing the best deck.
You don't get bonus rating for playing a bad deck.
>>532109851Link of the stream?
Wait you can only buy the overpriced 45 bucks thing ONCE? what the fuck
>>532112596the hunter became the hunted...
>>532112596Abysskeks fear the Skullfane
>>532109646People see Storm and completely misunderstand what Storm Haven is about. It's a control deck using Storm to push damage to face while removing enemy threats.
>>532112596Either memes or emerald
>>532112464Lish amulets will be crests instead to not hinder Orchis and not autolose in odinverse
>turn 2 luminous lancer
>turn 3 valse
>turn 4 valse
>turn 5 zirconia
>turn 6 doge
>turn 7 whatever
>turn 8 amalia
>turn 9 albert
I'm so done with this shit. They keep drawing the same thing
>>532112421only the bundles (and 10pack deal) so I have enough stash to buy BP every month/season
>>532112783>dogesyou lost to a garbage deck
>>532112421I boughted the Luna leader and the first BP. No more than that.
Aggro abyss is unplayable now in A
>sword can just shut you down as easy as haven and both in A are common
>rune used to be easy match up now are all dirt
>puppets
>some forest too even
I am currently on a loseatreak big enough i ended in Emerald from Ruby and only 2 boxes collected
>>532112757soulless as fuck
playing the orange bubbled eggs was the best part
>>532109851Nooooo Rune is a meme deck no one would take it to a tourney!
Kill all runenniggers. They are going to downplay for at least a fucking year how their pushed garbage "only got to semi finals"
>>532112845it's literally what the top 2 player in the world is spamming bro. skill issue
'member when /svg/ lost their shit over this?
>>532112845>NOOOOOOO MY BRAINDEAD UNGA BUNGA THAT ENDS GAMES BY TURN 8 DOESN'T WIN EVERY GAME!!!!!ok
>>532112965I remember when they lost their shit over the 3/3
>>532112965turns out the craft has access to so much broken shit that a card that's merely strong isn't good enough to make the cut
>>532112845sometimes you lose brother, especially with aggro where you only have so many decision points.
>>532112893Nice observation and both are now in Ruby and Sapphire
>>532112734he did manage to make it to ruby so he might have an idea
>those eboy vtuber shadow streamers with 4k+ viewers
>dozens of female viewers commenting
how 2 get shadoba gf
>>532112987Try 5
Aggro needs to have opponent in odin sevo kill range by 5 or it's a guarantee lose
It's a bot deck
>>532112757It will remain amulets, they'll just slap aura on it
it's funny that the best puppet wincon has nothing to do with puppets or it was roach
>>532112757>thinking they'll do anything correctly with puppet cardshaven't touched the new expansion yet?
>>532113050Would love to see their deck. Running skullfane is ballsy as hell
>chest event starts at 7am and resets at 10pm on a monday
who the fuck thought this was a good idea
>>532113081>dozens of female viewersUh huh
>>532113029who cares when you get points faster than diamondfags regardless 草
did they buff chest rate?
>play 1 game
>get chest
>
i already have too many 'dusas why do chests give set 1 legs??
can i stop playing now?
aggrotards tend to quit when i play blue artifact on turn 3
>>532113218I've gone 6-2 today and have 4 chests, so I assume so.
>>532112845Play control. Aggro abyss felt like trash and I dropped to topaz playing it. By playing control abyss I'm now AA diamond.
Sure, games take longer, but you don't just instantly lose the moment the enemy doesn't fold in the first few turns.
It took me 10 wins over 18 games to get my 5 chests
>>532113281portal is an auto loss for aggro and they have to wait till turn 3 for no penalty. what you play doesn't matter, they already made up their mind to leave when the match started.
>>532110520I only know Benis :DD
>>5321131052nd expansion only boost Artifact. They wouldn't boost Artifact again in next set because that would be stupid. If they print too much stuff for only artifact archetype, Portal would end up not using the new card at all. Even some artifag cut out Karura because there is so many cards to use.
>>532113281Aggro vs artifact is a 10-90 matchup, only winnable if artifact bricks. Not much point in wasting time.
>>532113504>They wouldn't boost Artifact again in next setI have guts feeling that portal anathema will support artifact
You simply cannot win against Rune with Haven.
>every guild is either sweatlords or dead
I want a nice social guild. How do I find one?
>>532113610uhm, ackchually if they have all their williams at the bottom of the deck you can
>>532113281>valseWhat now bitch?
>>532113640why talk in guild when you can talk here
>>532113610Storm Haven does surprisingly well into it but yeah. Ward is doomed.
>>532113640Writing messages in this game is so obtuse that you have to stop playing, go through 3 menus just to reply
>>532113640u don't wanna see the erp social guilds bwo...
>>532113610Haven loses to fucking Lamp. That's how you know it's bad
>>532113730I like jumping around and then stopping to type, and I like having consistent personalities I can bounce off of.
No offence to /svg/ but you guys are all smelly and probably use AI to ERP.
>>532113805Slow deck that wins via board loses to a deck running nine boardwipes! SHOCKING.
>>532113640>sweatlordsaka people playing the game.
>>532113610Just switch to storm already
Reminder that you should run lucrative deal as a surprise mill finisher against rune and for long games.
What craft should I main so when I reach diamond I get the respect of /svg/ and all girls will like me?
>>532113640my guild talks a decent amount and there's only 4 master sweatlords in it (myself included)
>>532113765true, it can't be that hard to have a chat box available while in a game, can it?
>>532114090>lethal against tier4 deckMOMMMM CAMERAAAAA
>>532114308he's using a tier6 deck
>try out Sword
>board gets constantly wiped out with very little possible comeback, even with Gildaria or Albert
>just go back to playing roach
And sword is supposed to be meta?
>>532114308even doe I also play a tier 4 deck
The 5th chest was really nice.
>>532114308>downplaying against literal 9pp do nothinghavenfags will truly stoop that low
>>532112965>Its literally 3 cost William
>>532114273Dragon, abyss is a soulless T1 deck
>>532114627What's even the point of playing dragon when there's no JO crystal in the card pool? It's soulless without it.
>>532113640define sweatlord and dead
i wouldn't describe my guild as either of those and it has a few open slots but we do expect you to log in regularly
>>532112965it still feels nice playing it on curve for 2 damage and, when it stays in your hand a really long time, it can clear a board.
bros, how good is puppet portal?
would william be balanced if, when you played william, you were allowed to punch your opponent?
>>532113905how come the other decks that also try to build a board get to have strong earlies then??
>Gets 1 good silver
>Best version of the craft solely because it has actual wincons
Funny.
Why cygames like this?
I send a support ticket complaining about the gem bundle lockout "limit reached" when there shouldn't be a limit.
>well sometimes that happens
????????
Fix it then?
HELLO?
>>532114852It's trash that happens to have a good matchup against a common deck.
>>532114852no wincon meme
26 winstreak
https://x.com/yoiseba/status/1947168860140159100
>>532114852don't listen to downplayers, you can get 70% WR if you optimize it
>>532114989starting rank and group?
>>532113640we dont have any criteria but login since the other guys are there to make the guild S lol
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>Lasr copy of Gildaria I need
Do your chest
>>532115027that information is irrelevant
>>5321150725th chest too?
>>532115004the best artifact player cant even get 60%
you arent touching that unless youre in shitlo stomping retards
>>532113610I play 1 Satan for the matchup but it only works if they don't straight up kill you on turn 10 with Kuon or Astaroth.
>>532115072I would if the event didnt start right during my wageslave hours and reset exactly when I got off work
>>532115125the golds and legos seem to be from the small chest
ive never gotten anything but a pittance of gold and vials from the big one
>>532108696Name of vtuber?
>>532115027It's not a streamer so there's no way to verify but the screenshot is Master Diamond.
>>532114989I would play this if the games didnt take ages
Is there any reason why sword players don't run Kagemitsu anymore? Like is Odin really that big of a scare for the card?
>>532113320Show your abyss deck please...
>>532114989How come /svg/ never mald against abyss when there is this shit?
I'm nooticing
>>532115261its just not that good
it had a niche as your turn 7 superevo storm face before
but now you just play odin and it goes through wards too for no reason
>>532115170I'll farm it for you, just give me your account :)
>>532115261It was always shit card that just happened to work because it countered the cancer meta
>>532112965it's run in hybrid rune
>>532115279I just play this netdeck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGbXLGi2Fow
Watch the video to learn the mulligans and how to play it.
>Dudes clearly playing aggro
>All of a Medusa out of nowhere
Huh
>>532115405It takes 30 minutes per game so that win streak took him 13 hours. In that same time, a swordbab deck can get 100+ wins.
>>532115170i don't think it's reasonable to expect them to schedule around your 18 hour work days
>>532115645Probably missing an Odin and replaced it with another 7 cost
>>532115645he pulled that card and he's gonna play that damn card
7 games in a row I went first goddamn
>>532115739yeah except you know I also sleep 7h
>>532115680even more reason to get angry
but /svg/ will mald more at ward haven for stalling their wins, kek
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Haven Ward is fine, just get lucky
Pretty embarrassing that this had to happen so soon but there's no way Norman isn't getting nerfed
>>532115261it was never a great card, it was just played because it helped pressure decks better than the alternative (and even then, a lot of people didn't run it).
Now that there's much better 3s (grimnir and princess second half) and also a better way to have reach, it really doesn't serve a purpose. It would need to have storm (or at least rush) baseline on respawn to be playable imo
>>532114589It's 3 cost Gravy though?
Just got my 4th ticket (light spender), I'm so happy bwos. KMR loves me
>>532115837>Expecting that the pet craft will ever get meaningfully nerfed First time playing shadowverse?
>>532114989how does this work? all the leggies need evo, no?
just lost to rune healing SIXTEEN (16) hp in two turns
Why doesn't puppetcraft have heals?
>>532115807i don't think you understand information
>>532115905No but I'm also not an overemotional retard like you, the card is legitimately overtuned unlike anything else you've ever cried about.
We have plenty of cards of little girls, but no cards of little boys. Fucked up if you ask me.
>>532115887I keep alternating between the sets because I still want the albert ticket, but I'm short a few legos from the new set.
>>532115924she's so cute and autistic...
>>532115917not medusa or ginsetsu
charon is also a waste of an evo point
and evoing gravy is greedy af
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>>532114989lol, lmao even
>>532115942Bro... Your Silvia?
>>532116012your puppet shota?
>>532116012bro your puppet lancer?
>Be spellboostkek since release
>Loss streak to Sapphire
>Decide to use it as an excuse have fun with Filene
>Play Lamp
>Down to Ruby, probably Topaz soon
Bros...
I think I won't be mad about the way smaller amount of RNG involved in spellboost anymore. Or maybe it's time to embrace rock bottom and just go face. I need to grind ranks anyway.
>control abyss is now a 18 legendary deck
>>532116012We know Titania
AF isn't good, I don't care what you guys say. It was better last set
>>532116141Most lists run 20, actually.
>>532115563what does this mean nyo....
>>532115408>>532115453>>532115856I see. Thanks for the input. Was facing a lot of aggro sword and just wondering why I never saw him again.
Why is there so much rune in B3 ruby
>>532116065>not a single oliviawhat the heck deck have you been even playing
>NOOO you can't run Orchis or Norman in the other archetype, nerf them right now
>nobody complains when Abyss puts every single one of their legendaries into one deck
>>532116206might as well stop pretending you're still f2p if you run it
>>532116193you lose early tempo in new AF trying to make sure your mechs have ward/rush+draw a card, but in exchange your late-game/draw is way stronger
>>532116316Artifact and the new Roach decks without Olivia
>>532116206I pulled all 20 of them for free but I fucking hate playing this deck
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Why
>>532116193if it was better last set use the deck from last set. the cards didn't rotate out.
>dropped from sapphire to emerald
this is a RNG game
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Which nightmare legendary should I globe next? I plan on getting the cerb cards if I get the ticket.
>>532116326If you main one craft, you can own a full playset of the cards in that craft and a full playset of all neutrals f2p without much difficulty.
Meta slaves without dedication to a single craft are the only ones who have to paypig for decks like this.
>>532116282orange: keep
green: only keep pyura if you have mino
pink: keep when going second
>>532116321/svg/ is a bloodkin general.
This meta somehow makes 1st set look balanced and fun, jesus christ
Just went 6 game in-between chests fuck you never even conceded
>>532116452Charon is value because she respawns the cards in premium form
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is it true that forestcraft is only properly piloted by engineers and mensa members ?
>>532116337It's way too clunky for small payoff. Compared to the shit Sword and Rune are doing it's such a joke
>>532116485wait do people really just "main" one craft forever?
how do you even learn the game playing like that
>>532116321I know, /svg/ is abyss central
That's why nobody ever complains about abyss
Think about it
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>>532116581I have no interest in playing inferior crafts that lack my beloved waifus.
>>532116542fairy forest seemed rather autopilot-ey to me compared to pure roach from last patch
>>532116581you read the cards
>>532116581I just watch streamers that play other crafts to kind of understand what they're thinking
>>532116581you play your matchups a lot and that's what matters
who cares about learning the game? it doesn't matter if you know the intricacies of rune vs artifact if you only play sword
>>532116642did you spend money?
>>532116581You just think a little while looking at what your opponents are playing. Look at netdeck lists and think some more. It's not that hard to figure out what cards they run and how the deck plays, without playing it.
>>532116452Charon will only get better in value as they print more cards. Imagine if they bring back something similar to Skullfish or Grudge Teller.
coin prim is the gayest shit
What should I use my orbs on? I have two legendary orbs burning a hole in my pocket.
(I plan on adding a third gildaria when I open one).
>>532116671>3rd DClimbI'll take it
>>532116642>set 1now post craft wins runesissy
>>532116727I want my good dogs back, both blood wolf and savage wolf.
>>532116642based rune player dabbing on freelo
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Ok fuck it I'm switching to the best deck. Is this the best list currently? Is 2 Normans fine?
>>532116759I don't use orbs until 3 set, it's the one that will really solidify what is good and what will be quickly forgotten
I don't expect odin to stay in the meta beyond this set for example.
>>532109258it doesn't even beat ward haven. i don't know if it beats ramp dragon either. i actually can't name a single good artifact matchup besides aggro abyss and forest in general.
>>532116581Unless you are whale, that's the smartest thing to do
>>532116898dragon loses to itself half the time
>>532116748No gayer than coin Beryl
>>532114989That singleton Yuna is so random, I understand getting the ward+bat against aggro is great, but with one copy how often are you going to have her when it matters
Holy fuck I just played all my 12 chest games going first what the hell is going on?
>>532116902I have 4 complete decks, vials for 2 more and havent spent a dime, not even the 2€ pack
>>532116819what is this retarded shit
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>>532116783infinity beyond is this set bwo
>>532116809>>532116924im an honest guy playing the thinking mans deck (artifact)
>>532116895>I don't expect odin to stay in the meta beyond this set for example.>Better Emeralda is le badRetard.
>>532116890>>532117009It's some 16 win streak diamond list, do you have better shitters?
>>532114876Because Sword, Portal and Rune are Cygames pet classes. Rune doesn't get an early board so in compensation they get the best: legendaries, healing, draw, PP economy, OTK, boardwipes.
>>532117018which tier 1 deck was still playing Odin in RoB again, newbab ... ?
>>532116024My luck with legos has been abysmal so I've been stuck with forest since starting lol
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>>532116759>>532116895the easiest globes for me are waifus I really like I can 100% see myself putting in the deck and playing like ralmia and miriam for artefact portal
>>532117093>Rune doesn't get an early boardMysteria is coming.
>>532116759Use it on your favourite card bro.
Gildaria
>>532117159RoB Odin was 8pp do nothing. New Odin is much more similar to Emeralda, except strictly better, and she remained relevant for a while.
>>532116321Abyss legendaries are generic goodstuff and and the only one that actually feels like a Blood card is Aragavy which is the most goodstuff of them all
When does the chest reward stuff reset? I just got my 4th or 5th chest and now it's back to 5/5!?
>>532116759i used my orb on my ralmia
i have 4 of her so whenever i need vials or she rotates i can redeem her
>>532117016post deck please i'm tired of trying to make dirt and abyss work
>>532117261Charon, nominally a shadow card, is actually most similar to Dark Airjammer from SV1, and that was a blood card.
The lines between blood and shadow are heavily blurred in SV2.
>plays full dirt
>still has 20+ spellboost on their shit
make it make sense
>>532116007Make it 4, two times against Rune player. I'm not flexing, I just hate when people say that Ward Haven loses to Rune, don't get me wrong it's a hard match up, but not one sided like people say it is.
>>532116321That is not a good thing. If you need 20 legendaries in your deck, it's mean your deck is shit.
If I don't care about the purchase bonuses, then it's better to use my crystals on the daily deal than on the bundles, right?
>>532117286Based swordbro
What's /svg/'s tierlist like?
>>532117261And Charon is just legendary Luminous Mage
>when you only get one Ward because you fail to get a skeletonFeelsbadman
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>>532117479Is he the new /svg/ mascot? Getting tired of all the gooner waifus
>>532117434>I'm not flexing,>Winning against dirtlol
I started this expansion today and thought I was playing against Spellboost so I left their Kuon alive and set up for lethal since another Kuon wouldn't have killed me but then they played Odin and I lost. I don't remember Spellboost in SV1 ever being able to run cards like that but I guess this was actually Dirt.
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>>532117336just netdecked rikka
idk how i feel about the 1 drop
I always win more in the morning... Are morning players worse?
>>532117578Tier 0: whatever deck I have a bad matchup against
Tier 1: most other decks
Tier 7: my deck
All answers will be variations on this.
>>532117578Tier 1
Sword
Rune
Tier 2
Abyss
Forest
Portal
Tier 3
Haven
Dragon
>>532117597Charon is Dark Airjammer like anon said
>>532117348Abyss is basically just Black, rather than being torn between two classes like it was in SV1
I've beginning to win a lot more with Aggro Abyss when I started THINKING
>Storm haven is a good deck but bad against ward haven
>Ward haven is trash
>Retards still play ward
It's good there is no in-game chat otherwise I would probably be banned already.
i hate rune so much its unreal
>>532117784>Storm haven is a good deck
Norman should summon sediment on Fanfare if there isn't any stack on the board
he's literally a do nothing without stack
>>532117752Airjammer doesn't need you to populate the Graveyard though
>>532117261cerberus is eachtar bro
What list is para playing atm?
>>532117908Norman should have a hidden interaction when Anne & Grea are on the field and impregnate them both
>>532117908god forbid you have to play dirt to use dirt cards
Charon feels so fucking good when she brings back a Mimi for lethal.
>>532117784>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T PLAY WHAT YOU WANT YOU HAVE TO PLAY THE BETTER DECK!!!
>>532117979Lilanthim Rune
>>532117908kys spellbooster
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topaz here, why does phildau deserve the golden border?
>>532117578Tier 1: Dirtboost Rune, Midrange Sword, Midrange Abyss
Tier 2: Artifact Portal, Aggro Abyss, Roach
Tier 3: Dragon lmao, Haven lmao, Puppet Portal
>>532117973I know
>>532117939It doesn't, but functionally it plays out pretty similarly, shit is dying anyway.
>>532116902I only had to craft Odin to play two more classes.
Why are swordbabs removing JENO LEVIN
>>532117939Both Charon and Airjammer are (mostly) guaranteed to give you one two-drop. Both have a condition you have to meet to summon a second follower. The two cards are very similar.
>>532118114midrange abyss is a meme. loses horribly to rune, 50/50 vs sword (?) what is it even doing there.
>>532118095What list exactly, can you post it? Is it the one with only 1 copy of Lala?
>>532118106SOKOU NANTOKA MOU IKAI
>>532116581Does "main" means never playing any other classes at all or just play one class in vast majority of games? I "main" a class but I play everything enough to know what everyone can do so I adapt better with the class I actually like. I have about 7000 ranked wins in sv1 and maybe 5000 of those are in one class.
>>532118352I had 3200 ranked wins in SV1 and 2500 of them were in one class.
>>532117578>T1Spellboost Rune with Norman
Midrange/20+ legendary Abyss
Roach Forest
>T2Midrange Sword
Aggro Abyss
Ramp Dragon
Artefact Portal
>T3Puppet Portal
Ward Haven
Aggro Sword
Aggro Dragon
doesn't midrange abyss just completely shit on aggro abyss?
>>5321181837pp do nothing
Can you believe that she actually really good for her set back in the original shadoba
>>532118426Everything shits on aggro abyss, that deck was only good day 1 while everyone was experimenting and many people were running greedy lists without anti-aggro tools.
>>532118478SAA SHIGOTO SHIMASUKA
>>532118426How so? It has no early game and gets swarmed easily
>but Araga-The damage is already done, it's all storm and razory claws from there
>>532118426aggro abyss is only good for grinding out ranking points / chests, it is not a very consistent deck
All cards that summon or use dirt should automatically reduce all spellboost in hand to 0 on play, I'm tired of spellniggers jacking my cards and using them better than an honest pure dirt deck.
>>532118412midrange sword's matchups are so much better than midrange abyss's it's a joke. you're obviously a sword main.
>>532118478That whore killed so many of my blood wolves...
>rune
>rune
>rune
>facedragon
>rune
>rune
>>532118623nope, I actually main portal
>>532118412Swordbab hands wrote this post.
Why is drain so rare compared to every other ability in the game? Literally only bats and meme ghost man have it
>>532118575cuz they have lots of early removal and wards
and as abyss, they have pretty much the same reach as you playing aggro. and of course you won't ever win past turn 7
I think the ui/ux in this game is dogshit. Every single ui/ux elements that exists in sv1 was made worse in wb.
>A3 Sapphire
>5 loss streak
>Win 1 game
>AA0 trial popup
>Win 2 games out of 3 in trial
>So that's 3 win streak
>Diamond
????
Weird
>>532118106cygame like to make a neutral gold 2/2 everg pack like 2/2 natura card or the chef
>>532118814it is dogshit, extremely convoluted
Why is Lloyd the only puppet without rush?
Post your predictions for the omen designs given SV2 power level.
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>>532118948because he should have storm
>>532118478this shitter is used in neutral blood mirror to kill 3/1 tove
>>532118892it's cygame tax repayment for playing hag
>Swordnigger gets unavoidable damage in once from ambush
>Die the second they reach 9pp
How do swordtards downplay this?
>>532118948his 6-inch ass is too heavy
>>532118974Gilnelise win the game for you when she comes down.
>>532118948doll killer has no rush
>>532118974I swear to god if they remove loot I will shit on kmr doorstep
>>532118974Rulenye and Valnareik, silent lust
10pp 4/6
Fanfare: choose mode:
1. Enemy cards cost 3 more to play next turn
2. Destroy an enemy follower and gain +2/+2 and storm
>14 games today
>8 rune 5 sword 1 portal
When are they gonna nerf cards
>>532118948lies.doll slayer has only ambush and last words
>>532118426If you would please consult the chart
>>532119258Octrice steals an archetype from her class this time. Absolute kinography.
>>532119339in shadoba it's midrange and arrows to other three
It's impossible to win the sword mirror going first.
>>532119339>aggro beats combo*laughs in 56hp*
>>532114989>1 of orthrus>1 of yuna>1 of mukanbut why
>>532118774Honestly not really. Beryl can actually be a headache to deal with early and if they hit it with a Razory Claw it's not even that awful a trade because you're not really playing for board anyway. Not to mention all of the stormers. It's an extremely volatile matchup and I actually feel more comfortable playing the aggro mirror than I do midrange vs aggro
>>532119396And it needs all 21 to be on par with other classes lmao
>>532119304Oh yeah that card
Why does Vier have to be so shit
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>Runenigger heals for 8
>Makes a tall body
>Not even super evol
I miss LoR
>>532119434>op coin prim>maid gun her down like a dog
>>532119339yeah bro, maybe if rune gets nerf to death
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>>532118751I like that it's just an Abyss thing so far. This was a neutral that let control decks negate all chip damage the opponent dealt for 2PP and an evo. You could target herself with the buff to heal for 6.
Two or three Norman in Dirtboost?
>>5321196322 is good but wouldn't be surprised if 3 is better
I don't feel confident in my deck to play...
phoenix fanfare should give crest instead and they should give dragon shuffles
>>532119339Where does artifact fit in these?
Haven niggers are starting to piss me off
>>532118974Izudia - will actually be strong this time and make control forest the next cancer.
Octorice - will be great and make sword even stronger just like Gildaria did this set.
Raio - will either make spellboost stronger or will be a meme casino card that will somehow still see play.
Galmieux - will be a good card that will still fail to elevate dragon from t3
Rulenye - will make control abyss decks have 23 legendaries
Valnareik - will make aggro abyss way stronger and help keep slow decks in check
Marwynn - will improve control haven and give us 30+ turn mirror hag games in weekly tournaments, will fail to elevate haven from t3 however
Lishenna - will finally make puppets strong unless they make her AF exclusive in which case it'll just make AF stronger
>>532119282Valnareik, the Lust(3)
Legendary
2/3
When this follower comes into play if you have dealt damage to your leader defense this turn give it +2/+2 and Storm
On your turn every time you deal damage to yourself give this +1/+1
Evolve:Restore (amount of times you self damaged) defense to your leader
>>532119794I can't wait for the 25+ legendary CAbyss lists that include both Rulenye and Gilnelise.
>>532119794Jerry - will suck because they released him too early and there aren't enough good cards to make highlander decks yet
Gilnelise - will be 3x in every deck thanks to having drain
>>532119443Utility cards that you don't want to see too much in a match. Othrus can feel awful off Charon and Yuna can clog up your hand. Though I think current midrange can afford 3 Mukan
>>532117194I did Ralmia and Carnelia.
Carnelia's animated card is really pretty with the falling glass shards.
I hope the Forest Anathema is a 1PP that has combo
What's even point of haven in this game? Other crafts heal better than it, other crafts have better wards than it, other crafts have better utility/removal than it (minus cum chalice).
>>532120018>and there aren't enough good cards to make highlander decks yetI could see Abyss Highlander potentially being a thing, given how many legendaries they already run.
>>532117621He makes losing to rune bearable unironically
Why did they make Liam so underpowered? At least his effect shouldn't need evolve
>>532120035It just makes no sense, especially with early drops, how the fuck you gonna get that Orthus or Yuna the times you need it? And how many times will it randomly show up in long games to fuck you over?
>>532120018I hope they don't make the mistake of making omen of storms gil again
>>532119443>Cerberus can deal 7 face damage while clearing the boardUhm tf? How is she not a better orchis?
>>532120168how does she clear aether
>have almost 70% winrate in diamond masters this season with 3 different decks
Am I just insanely good or what?
>>532120168Orchis can potentially deal up to 25 damage out of hand given enough preparation. And Orchis is also better at clearing the board thanks to bane.
>>532120252My dick throbs every time i see her. . .
>>532120252>didn't draw toes
>>532120270KMR blessed your rolls
>>532120270yeah i dont believe you
What exactly are sword and haven's gimmicks? All the other classes have board spam and amulet cards
>>532119794>Playing board and making intelligent decisions = cancer>Brainless handless = goodTotal runa and vampy genocide when?
>>532120508Are you trying to say sword doesn't have board spam?
>>532120508Breedable maids and princesses
Breedable nuns and angels
>>532120359footfagsisters how do we respond???
is rune literally invincible
which deck beats it
this one healed for 24
>>532116810>$2.19Wasn't it cheaper last month?
>>532120508Sword gimmick is do it all cards that don't need any resource to be spent
tempo forest is trash, this shit aint YEY TANOSHI no more
holy fuck godwood staff is fucking amazing
>>532120716im a fucking leaf…
>>532120508overstatted do it all followers that do things and board flood without spending evos (except my queen who demands cock as tribute)
>>532120508smartest swordbab
This decks makes me feel like an absolute brainlet
I just can't figure outt the good game pplan
I feel think taking off all 3 charon because she is legit 5pp do absolute nothing in my head
I want to like the foxes too but i can'tt even think how they can turn a game without just dying anyways the turn after
>>532120760a
fucking
leaf
sorry, force of habit
>>532120873>didn't drop crypt for cerb
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>>532120467I would go back further but we cant, we also cant track stats for some stupid ass reason, the third deck is midrange abyss, the runedeck is 2x lilianthum no OD no Satan , and the sworddeck is just midrange with double yurius
>>532120282Be realistic 25 damage is never happening
>>532120168Because the point of Cerb is to buff an existing board, the other shit is just a bonus
>>532120924never found the time
>>532120814Sexo with this queen
>>532117874Just because people build it like retards does not mean it's not better. It's essentially a burn control deck. I am still seeing people run the fucking Gryphon so yeah. No wonder the average room temp gigabrain here thinks it's bad
>>532110993>No Erika>No Lambda>NO BERNAbsolute shit tier list.
>Dragon- Battler>Sword- Dlanor>Abyss- Bern>Portal- Ange>Forest- Maria>Rune- Beatrice>Haven- Lambda
explain in your own words what matchup makes midrange abyss tier 1.
>>532120992How? Rune literally can't attack you
>>532120948>Be realistic 25 damage is never happeningSure, but my point is she has an extremely high ceiling for out of hand damage. And that's on top of her being better at clearing boards.
>>532120760Oh, sorry
I feel your pain, I'm from EU
>>532121053How rune cant attack me?
>>532120873Cerb>Odin>win?
>>532120873Control decks all feel like ass to play because you have to think till rope every turn for 15 turns every game and if you misplay once you die
>>532121083Sword is 50/50
Midrange Abyss also has a decent shot
>noooooooo Sword cant beat rune!!!!Trash opinion
>>532118106You'll understand one day when Masked Man summoned by Charon kills your Old Man/Lesbians behind their crutch wards
TAG! TAG! TAG! TAG! TAG! TAG!
>>532121120They have only odin and kuon that has storm
>>532121183lily rapes this
>>532121065She actually needs that too because building boards is something Puppet can't really do compared to Abyss which was like half of the point of Shadow
>>532121187bro I AM playing mirange abyss, I have 100% loss rate, they heal forever and can't last hit them
Has earth rite EVER been good? Way back when I played SV1, it was bad then and it's bad now.
>>532121272Learn to play I guess, I play both rune and abyss so my opinion is correct
>>532121239And Grea
And other bodies not even evolving i make it to their defense
>>532120270>>532120938you need to play at least 50 games (on one deck) for the real consistent numbers
>>532121291Bro your Acid Golem?
>>532120938lets see the group distribution
>roach is still beating parachan's hybrid rune consistently
roach has no choice but to save shadoba
>>532121272all this midrange abyss shilling is runetroon propaganda. its at least 70/30 favored for rune but they like to loe and mystify.
>>532121343>I play both runeOh so you're a downplayer, ok
>>532121291It was the best deck when old man Levi just burst you 3 times for 18 damage face + boardclear
>>532121291it was good when it was burn damage focused instead of this meme board flood shit, maybe if guardian golems were 5/5s it'd be good
>>532121291It took them 8 years to make it good, when it did it was very very good
>>532120508Haven either has a lot of Ward (sword has basically none) or "delayed Storm" amulets that let them build up to high impact turns in return for being do nothing. I expect eventually we will get damage clamp effects like Elana.
Sword has Infinite Value, a Sword unit is gonna be pound for pound better than anything that's not a Rune Legendary. Or that onion witch which for some reason is just Sword Card But Infinitely Better.
>play 8pp 4/4
>lose next turn because it doesn't do anything help early bricking
who came up with this dumpster card
>>532121418roach should be better against rune this set than last, rune is slower and cut flame destroyers so they have no way to kill forest at all until t10, which is also slower because they cut a lot of spellboost.
>>532120270Where do you see your winrate? Or are you just counting manually
>>532119794>Lishenna - will finally make puppets strong unless they make her AF exclusive in which case it'll just make AF strongerwait is she not even puppet
are we really going to pay the anathema tax
Do you think IE balanced going 1st vs 2nd?
I think anyone who thinks there will be any nerfs until the accelerated release schedule is over is delusional. There's no point in nerfing cards that will stop being broken soon anyway as a new set comes out. The soonest there might be any nerf is halfway through set 3, since by then we'll be on normal release schedule.
>>532121594You cant see it because japanese dont want you to feel bad,you just guess it or use some bitcoinminer tracker
>>532121550fennie is the only reason you have any winning matchups. show some gratitude.
>>532121550if it was Rune, Hoe-chan would have had a evolve effect
too bad!
>>532121375>Fanfare: Earth Rite - Deal 2 damage to the enemy leader.>Earth Rite (2): Deal 4 damage instead.>Earth Rite (3): Deal 6 damage instead. >>532121457>Evolve: Earth Rite (2) - Deal 6 damage to the enemy leader.Holy face damage
>>532121613She was always supposed to be Artefact support but her conditional was based around Destroyed Allies so Puppets fulfilled her conditional far better
>>532120540>runebab thinks he's "Playing board and making intelligent decisions" and not just putting square pegs in square holes
>got tired of bullying sword with ward
>played portal
>gets paired with a swrodfag playing portal
>this happened
Over-reliance on Orchis makes people stupid. It's good if you're up to a week's worth of Runefags tho.
>>532121550>"Bro, Fennie is good, you just need to run 3 copies of the AoE brick to reduce her cost, and then highroll multiple Genesis dragons after turn 7!"I feel like this is one giant psyop, no sane person can actually think the card works.
>>532121807if only Ceres wasnt a complete tempokiller card
>>532121617aggro is the best use of going second, their games are short and the first to evolve is huge. also the first to Odin/Olivia
otherwise going first is still better
>>532121769god damn it i watched ryu's 12 hour puppet stream and the conclusion was 'wait for lishenna to save us' and now it turns out she's not even a puppet card
also she's the only attractive omen so i was looking forward to running her for that too
>>532121661Ah yes which is why almost every nigger in the tournament played a Rune deck. Because it is balanced, just one more good card to everyone else and Rune down to D tier! Stupid cunt.
>>532121735Many different lists running around. Most have foregone early aggression for more value control cards
Why is para playing pamera? the 2pp gold spell. It seems bad
>>532121891I'm not saying it's balanced. I'm saying from Cygames's perspective it doesn't make any sense to nerf shit when everyone will bitch about different cards one month from now anyway.
>>532121850the only reason ramp is tier 2.5 it's because it just can't fucking ramp
Has anyone tried Ramp Dragon with Neptune, that doesn't use Fennie? Does it work?
>>532121850Ramp is for giga degenerate gamblers that just want the high of dragonsign, liu feng, burnite, chicken into goldennote + double gen
>>532121807Only the Forte is good
Default Fairy Convocation is cuter and default Ceres has a better evolved art
>>532121887I mean he is likely right. I CBA to look up Lishenna but look at what she did and you'll see why she's the Saviour of Puppet Decks.
Gonna be hilarious to see enemy scramble to get Black off the board only to open themselves for an Orchid Super.
>>532121980NTA but no one is bitching about Portal and Haven now.
>>532121617>sword goes second>coins princess>automatically wins gameNo lol
>>532121291yes
concede nono
oz + fire mouse
levi 3 damage to everything
>>532121891>12 rune>9 sword>Sword vs Abyss final>Abyss winsRune is OP!!!!!
Kill all swordtards
>>532121807Not selling them separately is such a fail. I would have bought that Forte for even 800 crystals, but no way am I paying for 2 cards I will never use just to get Forte
>>53212206180% of all calls for nerfs in set 1 were about Orchis. Barely anyone remembers she exists by now. This is my point. Nerfing her in set 1 wouldn't have made any sense from Cygames's perspective.
>>532121980It makes sense. If it was any other deck it would be nerfed but everyone who ever played SV knows Rune is not allowed to be anything even resembling mediocre. The only time it was not top dog was during Wonderland when everyone played the same fucking deck filled with Neutrals.
>>532121418>turn on stream>he's in sapphireoh no no, runebros...
>>532122062that doesnt matter. sword going second is broken because the first player to zirconia wins.
>>532122180>Barely anyone remembers she exists by now.Because they gutted all the puppet cards to punish her
>>532122206nooooooooooo Rune is the best deck by far please pay no attention that every 2nd matchup in master diamond is Sword
>>532121769>She was always supposed to be Artefact supportCitation needed, her amulets having the artifact trait never amounted to anything but meme interactions with cannon artifacts in her retrain
Lish decks are 60% puppet cards and 30% her followers/support
>>532121850you flat out cannot win vs sword or rune without her. if you arent willing to play fennie play a different deck.
>he still plays shadowverse
>>532122236>implying the whole game is sword mirrorbut true, class is broken, everyone is playing it
>>532122061>>532122180Portal is still broken piece of shit and so is orchis
>>532122326Not a single card got nerfed you lying nigger
>>532121807>here's 3 png for $16, browhy are jap games more jewish than anything
So how is the meta evolving? Is it still worth crafting the big 3 rune Legos from legends rise of has rune being powercrept?
>>532122195I also remember when every single match was nep shadow mirror
>>532121083If you're talking about spellboost, aggro abyss is ass. It's why I stopped playing rune and started memeing with other stuff. Every match in rank potato diamond was aggro abyss and I just kept losing regardless of how much heal I had teched in. You just can't outheal it and Odin deletes your single ward and hits face for 6-7.
>>532122396>playing literally any other card game in 2025
>midrange abyss is... le tier 1
why? what are its good matchups?
>it just is, ok?
>>532122496be grateful it isn't behind some convoluted gacha gaijin
>>532122602>the deck that has the biggest winstreak of the entire set is bad because... it just is, okay?!
>>532122496Because japs will pay no matter what
>>532122602it's good in the mirror bro, trust me
>>532122587>wins against aggroSo it just has 9:1 MU against everything in the game? cool
>>532122602Sword downplayers just want to deflect from midrange sword being better in every way than midrange abyss.
Do you ever feel like sometimes people are over optimizing their decks to the point they are just changing shit for the sake of changing it and making things worse?
Give Lloyd Bane by default so I can sudoku his 1 ATK ass and use the hand buffed puppets as my Storm nuke
>>532121039There's a lot of great characters in umineko, gotta make them fit thematically. Your list is alright even doe haven has to be either Dlanor or Vergilia. And if you include Bern and Lambda then Higurashi collab will have repeating leaders.
>>532122647Didnt para-chan get a 27x win streak on stream with rune? That's longer than any abyss win streak I've seen.
https://shadowverse-wins.com/?group=diamond&mp=Master&seasonId=62&more=10
>60% of them are sword
>as many dragons as rune
Doesnt fit the svg Swordbab narrative I guess so it must be faulty data
>>532122473They clearly held back the power level of every new puppet card in IE. Even Zwei, the only one that is remotely usable, is weak compared to any other craft's 5 drops.
>>532110993>uminekodon't care
>>532122784Anon... If you have an Orchis on board, Lloyd has bane by default.
>>532122893Okay now thats a different thing,weak release cards is not the same as nerfing the ones we already have
>>532122678Idk man you asked what beats rune (spellboost) and I answered. Realistically anything that goes for early board and pressure has a chance if spellboost doesn't have a good start.
>>532122929all fairies are degenerates
In the tournaments earlier is there data on class play and win rate
Post fairy lapis please, i need to fap
>>532122929>Titania had lesbian sex with DorothyBased
>>532122929Canon shrinking dom fetish lesbian
>>532122929>Titania is a filthy Dshift spellboostfagEWWW
DARIA IS NOT A LESBIAN
FUCK OFF
>>532122929And here I thought she couldnt get more based
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Puppet is still the best deck.
-Puppets control the early game completely, period. The only things you can do are desperately clearing or doing nothing
-They can auto-win with the tempo swing by taking a good 4attacker from you
-Sylvia is the best 6pp in the entire game
-Then Orchis rolls out Turn 7+1, Turn 8/Turn9 clearing anything you had, dealing face damage, and having an annoying board for you to deal with and desperately try to clear.
-Liam kills you if you're somehow still alive at turn10.
>>532121872first evo is whatever
the most broken is coin 2 drop into 2 drop
the coin is insanely broken because youre just up 1pp
>>532123251>Liam kills you if you're somehow still alive at turn10.Odin is better.
>>532122602Completely farms Haven and puppets, favorable against aggro of any kind and dirt rune, about even against sword, can win against spellboost rune depending on if you can play on curve. Bad matchups are lamp and artifact.
>>532123251remember when this general said Zwei was insane? well i guess all the streamers said it too so its not really on /svg/
>>532122602It literally beats everything besides Sword, and even then it's a 50/50 matchup
>>532122929Who is the Elf Queen? Tia?
>>532123251>spent evos on ack-im and sylviacongrats your liam is a 10pp do nothing now
>>532122901I haven't read higurashi yet, saving it for winter. Gonna solve everything before answers btw
>>532123336>haven>puppet>dirt>aggronot real decks. i do appreciate the real response though even if i disagree with it.
Its a Touhou situation, fairies are always female so most fairies shall be gay
>>532122151When did I say anything good about sword you downplaying Runenigger.
Titania's default art looks better than the ticket exchange one
>>532123469how do fairies reproduce, does Titania just pop out fairy larvae or some shit?
>>532123463You can think that if you want but the fact remains that a ton of people are playing those decks
>>532123369it has a hopeless matchup vs spellboost and all i see is spellboost and sword
>>532123526no they fucking aren't, it's not even good against aggro abyss either
>>532123517she transforms animals and people into fairies
>>532123517fairies fist penis holes for semen that is then delivered to titania to make more fairies
>>532122356Could be I am misremembering but other than her specifically I thought her Disciples specifically brought out artefacts? Also playing White and Black locked you out of Murder Doll off Venge Orchis.
>>532123624>>532123628oh no how horrible, I hope that never happens to me
>>532123332Odin goes without saying
>>532123342Zwei is garbage.
>>532123383Here's the thing. You only use Achim if it's a really good steal. If it is, the tempo swing is INCREDIBLE and the opponent will have a difficult time recovering. You'll have won before turn10. You should also be cautious about using Sylvia's evo if you think you'll need Liam on turn10.
>>532123517They lure innocent human men into fairy orgies
>>532123669sure thing runenigger
>>532123624Arguably a superior form of reproduction than sperm and egg. Titania can just fly to a town of people turn them in Fairies and call it a day
Titania can definitely grow a futa dick or make a futa fairy
>>532123712>gets chipped by storm/beta>cant play orchis without dying>the deck suddenly straight up doesnt functionwow so good
>>532123517they grow out of flowers
>>532123758she really is a trans icon
>>532123712>Zwei is garbage>You only use Achim if it's a really good stealWhy are you putting a 5-drop you can rarely play in your deck over a 5-drop that actually does something
>You'll have won before turn10Oh I see, you're Emerald.
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>ntr rune t0
>My cute anon is still playing >///<
>>532123251>Cant beat roach>Cant clear ambush followersTier 2 at best
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I love this pink dork so much
>>532124020Why does he always look bored out of his mind
>>532124032how do you have 2 progress with only 1 invited
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runnigs hate this one simple trick
>>532124119gotta desensitize yourself when playing pachinkocraft
>>532124081Doesn't she just die to medusa here?
>>532124119he's playing rune
>>532124119all people who only play 1 deck look like that
>>532124139I had 11. They remove rerollers and inactive accounts
>>532114959Keep pestering them. Send more tickets
>switch to rune
>suddenly having fun
I'm sorry for cursing you runefriends, I see the light now
>downright surgence
>super evo it so it doesn't die
What the fuck?
This game is so tiring now.
Today I lose streak to emerald from topaz.
When will KMR buff rune?
make me want to quit because rune is so weak.
Meanwhile aggro (80% of player base) have higher win rate and faster game.
Rune not only has 5% win rate, it need to wait for turn 10 to have 33% to win.
5 chest events required 8 hours to complete.
>>532124241oh i was too scared to post mine because of bad actors but i guess i should have, rip
>>532124259i bet she's loose, fairies are for human men
>>532124274Anon, it wouldn't die even without the Sevo. It has the orange protection cancer.
>>532124274>super evo it so it doesn't diesir..
Artifact slop is so overpowered
>Go wide
>Gamma spam
>Go tall
>Sylvia
>>532124252winning without receiving counterplay is fun for sure
>>532123675>I thought her Disciples specifically brought out artefacts?Only zealot, the rest are generic destruction effects
It should be obvious but isn't chest spawn rate tied to game length/ turn passed? I play control and chests just spawn back to back
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Balanced 5 deck meta. NEXTO
>>532124274smartest runebab
>>532124395>No Mukan >No crypt Do you just concede the moment the opponent plays transgender Mordecai?
>>532124395meh, memorial is too useful as board wipe on demand
>>532124274Artifact winrate must be inflated right now with how often I've seen people leave these alive. Will it be tier 1 even once everyone has that figured out?
>>532124440Yes they are. Last event I played control abyss and farmed chests back to back. Now I play aggro abyss and having 5 game streaks without any.
>>532124440wouldn't surprise me, did not have a fun time with chests today as face dragon
>>532124395Looks fine if you're seeing a lot of aggro
>>532124395>Charon without Phil and with only 5 skeleton generatorsThis is a troll deck.
>lost my 5 win winstreak to highrolling forest
W..Why is Titania so big? Fairies are supposed to be small
The discount showing what they've top decked makes the game much more fun!
>>532124495nobody has ever left mine alive…
>>532124637>20 hp with no neptune crest>'top decked' when he drew 6 cardsyour t1 deck lost to a t4 deck, cry about it and move on
>>532124440Yep, I played rune today and all my matches went to at least turn 10. Got 4 chests back to back and the 5th one after another two games.
>>532124627Is she even a fairy? Looks like generic elven sow to me.
>>532124637lol you lost the second your orchis only did 8
>>532124395>midrange>look inside>its controlWhen did we get invaded by Hearthshitters?
Ramp is so satisfying to play sometimes
I wish it was better, its highs are peak shadoba
btw I almost lost that match, my 2 leftover genesis dragons were in the last 3 cards in the deck
Mirror matches in this game are so fucking retarded
>Can already tell you lost on turn 3
>>532124802i thought she was the most broken card in the game that instantly wins if you play two in a row
>>532124810that list is honestly more midrange than the average mess abyss lists looks like now
>>532124863yeah maybe in topaz
>>532124865It runs like, none of the cards that actually kill your opponent
why do dirt"GODS" still use dclimb cocytus then brick with 4 cards left on their deck because they had to use all sevo points
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So we all agree this card is completely broken?
>>532124810If it has Vuella it's not control
>>532124856unless it's some aggrotard mirror and one side bricks i don't see how
>>532124984because thats not a dirtgod, that's satan wearing the skin of an angel
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>+368
It feels great
>>532124709He top decked a second phoenix the turn after the first.
>>532125010If it has cards that cost more than 7 it's control.
"infinity evolved legendary card pack"
>>532125010if it has 3 gin, it's control
>>532124984True dirt soup enjoyers don't resort to abusing dclimb and play a suboptimal deck but retain their honour, simple as.
>>532124637>lets the dragonchud ramp at full hp>leaves an empty board 2 turns in a row letting him double chicken bro got no board presence
>>532125059>>532125072All the good Abyss cards cost 5+
>>532124991>WAAAAAHH STOP HEALINGShut up
>>532125020It's very easy to tell you're going to lose in the sword mirror
Im new, so which one is the new cunnychad deck?
When you're in game, how do people get alternative portraits of in game cards that come with the extra animations when they evolve cards? I've run into Cerberus and Albert and I don't even see them in the shop
>>532125053>LapisHow often does it get banished by odin?
>>532124991Good thing sword has the PERFECT answer to this card then
What cards would make for a good notification sound bros? I'm prob gonna do bellringer, but I know some people will hear it and go wtf
>>532125095How the fuck do you discount Climb without a Spellboost build?
>put odin in deck
>start winning
ohhhh
>>532125182.06% chance from a pack
>>532125067It's just a legendary card pack. Expansion specific ones don't exist, same as SV1.
>>532124991>drops Norman to heal>drop olivia genesis to blow him up>drop Norman to board flood>drop twilight genesis to blow him uprunes most bullshit card is cocytus which is a fucking neutral this guy just cockblocks unga face decks
>>532125010if an abyss list doesnt run vuela they are trolling
>>532125230She doesn't answer shit about his healing LMFAO
The great equalizer from the forest is coming back....
>>532125182From opening card packs bro. You have a chance to get tickets you can turn in for that.
>>532125230she's kinda aura farmin in that art, on god
>play Rara into Hags Chalice
>he sits there not knowing what to do for a minute
no better feel
>>532125231Any Artifact especially Ancient Artifact
>>532125325Agreed, but she's still a midrange card
>>532125286and face decks are the only thing that could beat rune before satan
now tell me how youre supposed to beat rune now
>>532125230Cool, after you clear the board they still healed for +8 and now your shit gets cleared by William for free.
>Servant of cocytus has more stats than its ruler
???
>>532125473satan is ruler, not a fighter
>>532125342He is wrong about "Midrange Abyss" getting more played, same as roach, decks is simply too hard for most people so they will go play Sword instead
>>532125473he's a loyal servant, he would never think about deposing his king even though he is stronger
>>532125426Disgusting spellboost trash in my Dirt
>>532124395>No cemetery>No Mukan>Plays shitty 1 drop kill spell when Abyss has access to far better removal in ghosts/bane and unconditional board wipesAbsoluter troll list. Even if you are playing "control abyss" this list is ass.
>>532125473He used his stats to summon his army
>>532125424by playing the game retard
make him waste evo points
use healing to prevent demons of purgatory from killing you
put wards to fend off silent riders
the moment he does a 10pp astaroth's turn you go in for the kill because he will basically give you a free turn despite leaving you at 1 hp
>>532125520IIRC his videos are usually about the competitive meta not about ladder. In tourneys the hard decks will be played.
>>532125593There is no strategy just play shit on curve...
Abyss is so unfair right now. Glad you guys aren't dogshit anymore.
>>532125342sorry roachies, im still playing ward
>>532121807I'd pay 500 for the Fairy Convocation
>>532124259That's how she looks at Daria???
>>532125473Satan should be 20/20 but that would render the tokens pointless, same reason why Bahamut the strongest thing in RoB isnt 40/40
>>532125409no she goes in every fucking deck you monkey
Why can't you zoom into cards portraits during the game? Every other ccg allows this
>>532125593Replace owl and a 4 drop with Kuon and AnneGrea
>>532125765stop trying to fap during matches
>>532125593Gain board control early on, deal some cheap damage then finish with Odin. Play the vtuber slut if it didn't worked.
did they increase the chests value?
>>532125173Any answer? I used to love bloodcraft simply because theres tons of cunny there
>>532125619>play the losing game
>Sword is heckin tier 1
>Can't heal at all and immediately loses if they don't get perfect draw as a result
>>532125813Artists put a lot of work into the cards, i'd like to look at them while my opponent thinks for 2 minutes
>>532125834You just got lucky
>>532125010Every abyss deck runs Vuella, dipshit.
>>532125834that's the god roll
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>Albert on 5 evo for 5
>Odin for 4
>Albert sevo 9 for 12
>Odin sevo for 7
We unironically need more healing in this game.
>>532125593Unironically like sword
Your soup must always be full also run 3 grea and 3 kuon, especially Kuon because you really still want to try storm at 10 with her big shikigami after Lil chomped them a bit
The rest of dirt cards pack so much fanfare burns you shouldn't have trouble repelling board centered decks
>>532125870Damn I see why Titania is dripping for her
>>532125593Get rid of Pascal's dance. Then remove some of the more shitty dirt cards like Owl and Remi to make space for 3x Kuon and 3-2x Lesbians. The deck is about as difficult to play as Sword. Just play shit of curve.
>>532125872Sword needs to have a weakness somewhere man.
You can't have be top 2-3 in almost every field without having a weakness somewhere.
>>532125867cant even take a harmless L without crying like a baby and covering your ears. this is why you're a loser.
haven players look like THAT?
>>532126068>p-please take an L even though you're correct
>>532126095>WalletverseAdd 3x of every legend and autofill
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TENKA MUHI!
>>532126131Gotta farm them rupees for the tier 3 wallet deck somehow.
>>532126179I asked the guy not you
>>532125870We already have a queen.
>>532125992You don't fucking play abyss, retard. Aggro, midrange, and control all run her. There's no abyss deck that can justify anything less than 3x Vuella, other than maybe the retarded Laura meme deck, but that's not a real deck.
>>532126098Sword's gap is bad turn 5 tempo play and little access to healing
Rune's gap is poor access to the early game and low access to storm.
Notice how both of these classes are top 2 because it's "little" or "poor" access to most things instead of not having it at all.
>>532126227bro I haven't even been TENKA MUNI'd once this set... it's all Rune and Portal...
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>>532126306My Laura meme runs 3 Vuella
>>532126339>Rune's gap is poor access to the early gameWhich is irrelevant because they just heal through it and as soon as they play Anne Grea they get free turns
>>532126095>>532126179He's not far from wrong actually... Personally I think Olivia is a brick and a waste of Sevo so I don't run her.
>>532126416Post rank and group.
I have over 200 wins with abyss and am currently AA diamond.
>>532125619name me a single deck that can heal + ward up + setup lethal through two 10/10s a 13/13 and 20 hp
>>532126460And Sword rarely needs to heal because it almost always has board control, what's your point?
>>532126372Faggot already remove him from their decks anyway
>>532126482And? I don't care about your rank bro
>>532126416so post your killer 0-vuella deck so we can make fun of you or shut the fuck up
>>532126524Any board sword makes is easily clearable even if they spend evo points to build it, you are on crack
>>532126227I need a Hoe-chanless ramp dick. It got decent sustain with orcas this set, why's nobody playing it? The chicken is a meme and Gyaru is better.
>>532126572Okay, topaz B3 shitter, I'm sure your opinion is very valuable when in practice every single abyss deck runs 3x Vuella.
>>532126573I don't play without Vuella because I'm not retarded?
>>532125340>>532125460lmfao non-players, get out of topaz
no one uses his healing effect on 6pp, if opponent gets to heal on 6pp vs sword it's your own fucking fault for having no board
>>532124395>Only 16 legendary cards
Arguments on /svg/ should be resolved in a duel, post your room codes. The loser is ERP slave to the winner.
>>532126727What board is sword going to have on 5PP that he can't easily clear that also survived anne grea + killed it?
>>532126654Notice how you're forced to clear their board and don't get to go face at the same time 99% of the time.
Sword is fine, classes have weaknesses. God forbid they matter sometimes.
>>532126775It's a budget list, obviously.
Ramp sucks so bad but I can't stop because every time I win I get so happy
>>532126779They should do it on 21488 on stage
1x Odin
Gonna try this after I get 50 dragon wins later today. Any way to improve it other than adding more copies of cards already in the deck that I don't have more of?
Also any tips or tricks on how to pilot it
Reminder that sword literally wraps the meta around itself as half of every deck needs to be build around not automatically losing to sword, and sword still has high winrates despite that. And yet swordbabs downplay.
>>532124637>Dragon plays 30pp worth of cards in a turn:)
>Rune plays 20pp of cards in a turn>:(
>>532126803If you high roll anne grea won't full clear your bord, or you can zirconia again right after
If you don't high roll and opponent high rolls grea into norman it means opponent high rolled and you didn't so it's only fear that you lose
Very hard to fathom for a swordBAB I know
>>532126950This but ward haven
>>532126950Never trust a sword player.
>>532126920>Also any tips or tricksYou dont need tips or tricks to play aggro. Try and at least pretend your IQ is above room temp.
>>532124637If it makes you feel any better, Dragon getting to turn 8 at 20 def already leaves it super omega favored into Artifacts, Ho-chan just sped up how quickly you were going to lose.
>>532126985>High rollIt's not called high rolling for rune when they have like 30 different answers to blow up sword and sword only has one good answer to anne grea which also depends on them having perfect 1/2/3/4 turns before that
How the fuck do people stay in Diamond with face dragon?
This shit dies to every popular deck here
>>532108192 (OP)How do you make Forsen to play this game?
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Good board
>>532126468You don't have to sevo her?
5pp draw 2 heal 2 with a 4/4 body is good.
>>532126992Ward haven stopped winning games after the meta adapted for it. The same is not true of sword.
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COMING THROUGH! COMING THROUGH! WAAAAAAAAAAAGH!
>>532124637>dragon turn 8 using 4chan (raw turn 8)>full health stillnot only you should've lost, you should've contacted him privately and gave him 30 bucks
>>532127168they dont
they get one lucky streak and post the cool promo screenshot
>>532127171Arena mode (take two)
The moment I went back to diamond I stopped seeing Ward Haven. Now everything is sword and aggro abyss.
>>532127129Lol
Lmao even
Swordkeks will never ever admit to playing a broken deck more news at 12
>>532126976Dragon is fair because you have to play a bunch of do nothings like chicken or liu fend to advance your gameplan
Whereas rune advances its gameplan using grea and kuon
help a retard out, why is kuons 10pp shikigami sometimes 10, 16, 18 etc. i thought she sacriced whatever is on board for it but sometimes there is nothing on the board and it gets bigger than 10?
>>532126664Feetlene is a waste of 3 cards, she doesn't hit face
>>532127365That's what I did to get here...
>>532127417this but runekeks who pretend like their early game even matters when they heal for more damage than you can even do from turn 1-5 in one play
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I hate that we can't see opponent hand in replay
I'll never know what he was preparing
>>532127432It gets the stats of every shikigami that died this turn, not just while it was being made, swordbab.
>>532122929She secretly cucks her lesbo partner for shota cock.
>>532126664you are never beating sword or rune or haven without fennie so don't bother.
>>532127432Additional demonic calls make it bigger.
>>532126976Dragon trust their cards, meanwhile runefags are gambling addict.
>>532127432Total dead Shikigamis on the turn, Noble should have had grant be destroyed like Omen of Storms so you end up having 2 Noble nukes
>>532127432Worlds smartest swordbab
>>532127432It counts all shikigamis destroyed on that turn so you can get it higher with 0pp rush shikigamis and even otk if you can afford to hold them until turn 10
>>532127518You can't see opponent hands because Cygames wants to hide the fact that people cheat their hand states mid match
Ever wonder why ever Portal player waits a suspiciously long time before they make the obvious Orchis play? It's because they're adding her to their hand with cheats.
>>532127485now you demote and dont post it
then you can repromote and post it again
Sword doesn't even have any draw, how do they Zirconia on 4 every game?
>>532127513their "bad early game" is the same 2/2 statline everyone else has to play, 5 damage 1pp removal, and 3pp 4 damage board wipe, its a complete joke. aggro isnt a counter.
Yeah, I'm something of a Neptune's fan myself.
>>532127193I don't often find free turns to drop a 5pp
Why do people insist on downplaying decks?
Aren't you happy the deck you like is good and can win games?
Every expansion I start of hopeful and delusionally post about how Lamp will be good this time for sure.
>>532117261Orchis is generic goodstuff
>>532127513>b-b-b-b-but RUNE!!!!!every single time
>Actually spoonfeeding the retard instead of just laughing at him
>>532127823Just sword players being entitled despite playing the most perfectly fine deck in existence
>>532127737They always run 3 copies, so there's a high probability of starting with her or drawing into her.
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wtf is this turn
if I hadn't drawn exactly what I drew I would have lost almost immediately
Did the rewards from the chests got worse? It's all 50 vials.
>>532127823you downplay so people play more decks you're good against and take counters for your deck out of theirs
>>532127694We do it because she's is our best storm and using her to clear board is a waste, so first we check if we can clear with something else instead
>>532127823The deck i like isn't good and doesn't win games
>>532125053How long is the game?
>>532127823Welcome to the club brother
It's so tiresome to watch retarded sword, rune and artifact players argue all day about which deck is more OP when you play a real shit deck like ramp
Gotta say though sword players in particular are very dedicated to downplaying the deck as much as possible, it's like they're on a fucking mission
>>532126372>play 2 ramp cards>have 8pp>sevos locked he needed an evo effect that gave one of the 2 effects from his sevo
>>532127823They're bad at the game and lose even with tier 0 decks. To avoid admitting to themselves that they are bad at the game, they convince themselves that the deck is bad.
>>532127823if my deck is good and I win, I got carried
if my deck is good and I lose, I'm shit at the game
if my deck is bad and I win, I'm good at the game
if my deck is bad and I lose, it's the deck's fault
>>532127823i don't downplay. i am honest about how my deck is bad
it's the fate of someone playing for archetype instead of playing what looks good
>forgot to evolve my aragavy for free face damage
it's over for me. I know I'm going to lose because of this
>>532127587How is the 8pp do nothing supposed to help against rune, when I could've played forte/gyaru/shark and setup lethal next turn instead? Rune matchup going 2nd was a free win last set. I've won 100+ ranked games with ramp.
>>532128013it's cancer, the bats really shouldn't have drain.
>>532127975its t0 this set.
Havenbros... Please come back.
We need you to gatekeep roach out of the meta.
>>532128437It's not tier 0, but it's firmly tier 1 and it's absolutely baffling that any sword players are still complaining
>>532127738A lot of their early game cards don't impact the board beyond their stats or the fact that Stormy Blast kills something.
Compared that to like, Orca's putting out a 2/2 rush nigga, Sword printing 2/3 in stats or Puppet getting to fire 1 damage pings at you.
It's not exactly that it's bad, it's just that it's below rate compared to what the other decks get to do.
Rune however is still very, very good because while their early game is slightly to moderately below rate, everything else they do is notably above rate and they have access to one of the best wincons in the game in addition to tools that make-up for it's weakness. Compare this to say, Dragoncraft which has a similar "skip the early game" plan, it doesn't have as much access to the strong stabilizing tools or accelerators to make-up for the fact that Aggro abyss will eat your entire ass for daring to spend turn 3 not putting down a body.
>>532128013>turn 2 do nothing>turn 3 do nothingHe bricked
>>532128013>The abyss player spent turns 2 and 3 doing literally nothing to set up this meme turn No surprise they lost.
>>532128013>oh no, how could this filthy non-sword player ever stand a chance against my deck?>good thing I drew my OP cards (my deck plays 40 of them), I ALMOST lost a game!kys unironically
>>532127369I guess someone needs to poke his ego to play this game or if he got sponsored.
>>532128368ok, you clearly have your winning list so what do you need us for?
>>532128164>>532128194>It's cope to shield themselves from self-inflicted agonyThat's kind of sad.
Do people not understand that card games sometimes do just boil down to who drew better? that's like half of the fun that your options are limited unlike something like Chess.
>it's the goddamn "your key cards are somehow stuck at the fucking bottom 8 of the deck" episode again
>>532128601>defending aggro abyssfollow your own advice
I'm unironically so tired of seeing this blatant barashit card in every single pack I open
>>532128601sword players think "almost losing" indicates a balance problem
>>532128726The most powerful fairy.
>>532128721i love eudies look of disappointment here
holy shit even runeniggers are playing odin.
what a retarded card.
>>532128013If he went all face, he loses the face race. If he trade, he loses the "long" game, why they fuck are you complaining?
>left olivia on the board for no reason
smartest rune player
>>532127694>You can't see opponent hands because Cygames wants to hide the fact that people cheat their hand states mid matchJewGames should let us see the opponent hands if this shit happens.
>>532129026muh astaroth ping otk
>>532128368>drop forte>stormy it and heal 6 with sagelights>drop shark>norman heal 8 and kill shark>drop garyu >william evo fully clearsall delay the game to 10 where every turn is a potential 0 counterplay otk from him where he also has wards to cockblock genesis
chicken lets you drop genesis+board clear or genesis+olivia to punt him while having enough board pressure to force sevos and dclimbs out instead of basic shit
and runes dropped blazing destroyers so their midgame pressure is weak as fuck now and they all play for turn 10 bullshit letting chicken with minimal risk
>but chicken can draw nothingyea but thats the ramp tax you can just lose because fuck you
>>532129053you should be able to see opponents hand in mulligan phase to stop wasting time against hopeless rune highroll
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>>532125619Lmao. Holy mother of Runenigger bait.
>>532129475No thanks, I don't want the game to just be a hand comparison fest like YGO.
i play forest => i have fun
why do people call the current abyss "midrange"
it's the most top heavy deck and goes to turn 13+ grind against midsword/dirtrune/AF all the time
I just played a long fucking game against it with dirt rune
>put them under Kuon lethal range with 8/5/5
>heal out of it with 9pp
>does it again with Odin
>heal out of it with Olivia
>I Odin again
>heal with Cerberus
>I lost
I played AF last week, and the same thing happened with my Gundam
hate that deck so much, they ran 9 fucking healing card late game
really want to go back to spellboost, but I also hate autolose against aggro abyss
>>532128114/svg/ has been Swordbab general for almost a decade now
>>532125619>the moment he does a 10pp astaroth's turn you go in for the killlol
why does Odin (Infinity Evolved) shine when Odin (Darkness Evolved) flopped
>>532129697>/svg/ has been Swordbab general for almost a decade nowIt feels like it's the same one dedicated autist every time
Always the exact same bitchy one-liner lowercase reply pattern "b-but what about rune" that never addresses the sword criticism and always deflects
>>532126131No, they look like THIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y62jZh6moa8
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hahahaha the onion isnt so tanoshii now is it
REEEEEE
FUCKING NIGGGGEEEERRRRRRRR
I roped this nigger hard after this when i had lethal with Aragavy evo ping
>>532120151He's a whale that has KMR on the phone to rig his draws. That's always the case with weird decks with random 1-ofs and no means to tutor or mass draw for them.
>>532128013Crypt fucking sucks and I'm tired of pretending it doesn't. Same with Nightmare, she's literally only good if you cheat her out turn one.
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>>532130042I did the same thing the other day
Why the fuck is para running the 2pp gold spell with the doubling atk/def thing. That never happens and otherwise it's just a 2pp draw 1 +1 dirt. Also the 3pp pseudo william spell seems bad too
>>532130042and then they sagelight aoe you
>>532130165rune is just that strong
>>532130095So who's the real nigger here?
>>532130224he used 3 sagelight and 2 normans already, the only thing that wins here is chains or astaroth topdeck
>>532130165the first dirt is the most important so you can start tapping it asap
>>532130042This gave me a good Giggle.
Valse is such a stupid card.
>>532130095based fellow abyssbr-
>I roped this nigger hard after thiskill yourself
>>532130285Playing roach makes you a nigger by default
>>532130342roach hands behind the keyboard
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>sword downplayers
>>532130165>otherwise it's just a 2pp draw 1 +1 dirtyes thats why they run it. you can see how concerned rune is with aggro when they cut ms miranda to spend 2 mana on nothing.
>>532130398link to this site?
>>532130398I wonder how the meta will warp around this. Swords weaknesses are healtanking the storm damage and cheap clears, so I wonder what classes will creep up to match that.
>>532129907Odin (Darkness Evolved) was a control staple though
Top deck of the century. I don't know why he didn't trade.
>>532130165>bellringer is good enough to play>streamnigger cant understand why draw + spellboost + maybe highroll is good
>>532130591svlabo probably
Do I put Amalia Bricksteel Paladin down to 2?
>>532130992>no ward blockeryou're braindead
I KEEP FORGETTING ABOUT GRIMNIR FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>532130789>triple 10pp genesis dragon in handbrickGOD...
>>532130789>3 full cost genesis dragons in hand
I couldn't have telegraphed this any harder, thank you for drawing with Sylvia for two turns in a row.
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I'm not sure about my 3 one ofs. Maybe I should play the 2pp 2-3 times. But the 4pp also clears something for free which is nice.
>>532131054Spellboost is always better than a tiny ward tho
So what's the best deck this patch?
>>532129907Odin was a staple in many control decks, and even some midrange, you just forgot or never actually played during that time.
>>532131380The least bricked-up ramp hand I've ever seen
At least you drew playable before turn 6 which is more than can be said for half my games
>>532131351Artifact, Rune, Sword
>>532131343why would you ever run anne/grea at anything but 3x
>>532131463They forgot the terror of Haven OTK.
You needed to run Odin or you got statued.
>>532131489Same as it has ever been since the game released.
>>532131507swordbab..............................
>>532131507eyebros.. did we just lose??
>>532117159Odin will survive two sets at minimum. Omens are high synergy decks that'll all need a generic powerful removal/storm card to anchor when shit goes wrong.
If set 4 is Wonderland or Bahamut he'll stay the same.
It'll take an outright fundamental meta shift like Natura/Machina or overly busted Umas/Im@s to drop him.
>>532129947Mid sword in DE had something like a 65% winrate going second but most of the bitching was deflected towards Haven (both variants) and PtP Forest. To be fair PtP was fucking stupid.
>>532131010Yes Grimnir exists now, so her and Luminous mage end up as jobber cards half the time.
Odin at 3x and Amalia at 2x or Odin at 2x and Amalia at 3x?
>>532131596The terror of a... low tier meme deck?
When is Arisa getting her amulet back?
>>532131697No one plays Grimnir
>>532131705Seria is a BRICK
>>532131705Both 2x and add one more YURIUS
>>532131710Maybe later but during DE the game was more than slow enough you are shit to it. Later there was Elana and you needed him even more.
>>532131842God I hated playing against Tenko Elana.
>>532131832>Wanting a hand full of bricks
>>532131705Drop the lyrala instead
>>532131829What else do I run though that gets value without evo? I was using Phildau before but my evos are always going to Zirconia and Gildaria now
>>532131829She wins aggro abyss matchup by herself
I don't understand the Yurius popularity, if board is empty to play him, just throw down Centaur and hit face bigly instead.
Will SV2 unlimited also eventually become a turn 2-3 OTK shitfest or will Cygames be able to restrain their autism this time around?
>>532132161It's more a defensive option when you now lethal is about to hit and you need another turn for albert
>>532131989Why, it's a good play after Luminous or into Gildaria
>>532132161He helps you buy a turn for Albert and stops Gundamslop
>>532132161Yurius is insurance against getting stormed down yourself, if your opponent doesn't have Lethal on board, Yurius does buy you a turn while doing the 2 heal 2 face damage.
Good card, sometimes autowins.
>can't drop down 5pp amulet and YOROSHIKUNA on curve anymore
Soulless I tell you, SOULLESS!
>>532132161Yurius instantly wins the game on the spot if the enemy doesn't have removal that doesn't require attacking in hand. He's a powerful hand check that can crush decks that rely on attack based on removal.
Everytime I open his stream I see him struggle with Rune. Funniest shit ever
>>532132161new
and legendary
literally all there is to it
>>532132368who is this guy
people constantly post him jobbing
>>532132161Its a card thats only as good as the one using it, so of course you wouldnt get him.
>>532132161I lost to this piece of shit once after dominating him with Puppets. There was literally NOTHING I could do.
>>532132554He's like one of the two guys that stream sword constantly
>>532131842During DE aggro decks where everywhere and dshift still ran petrify. It was a terrible deck man
Should I play dogs instead of something? I'm pretty satisfied with most of it. Seria is needed in the mirror it bricks the 1/1 ambush
>>532132619your sylvia?
your phildau?
I now understand the Yurius popularity, Orchis can go fuck herself.
>>532132706i only know spicies and people spam his 75% winrate master diamond all the time
>>532131290And what exactly was he supposed to do against the amulets? Banish them with the odin he doesn't run? If he has nothing to pressure you with, all he can do is draw and pray he draws something that might help.
>>532132554The sword autist
Post the clip of him getting hit with 3 heals against rune
>>532132739I don't think Grimnir is worth using in sword unless you are running at least 1 Yurius DESU
Gildaria does not have problems clearing boards with just herself.
Also why Ironcrown Majesty? If anything drop that
>>532132890B-but if he topdecks a Gildy later he can get MORE Grimnir value...
>>532132817IDK heal out of the lethal range???
Norman is gonna be so bullshit until he rotates out
Got stupidly lucky i had a very fast early curve and Vuella lived
>>532132890Honestly I'm tempted to run tentacles for healing since the deck has none could swap that for majesty, I only have 1 yurius but he just feels like lot of hope behind it being usable
>>532132817Half of puppets actually run Odin now.
>>532132789Yeah everyone copies spicies but maito streams more often so he feels more popular
>>532132726what no
rune didn't need to tech against lapis
rune was heavily favored against that deck
>>532125619massive bait, never met a rune that astaroth and leave you alive
>>532133159Nice 9pp and 7pp bricks other than odin you got there
I don't like Liam's evolve art, he goes from a kino cyborg puppet master to looking like some stupid demon.
>>532132817>the amuletsYou mean amulet (singular).
And the smart thing for any puppet player to do after going 14 turns without threatening your opponent whatsoever is to simply concede and go next.
He knew he lost ages ago and continued playing.
>>532133297>Rune was popular>9-1 matchup in their favor>10-0 for the ones that ran petification for other matchupsYes haven was bad back then glad we agree
>>532133291Why didn't he aggro rune down ? is he stupid ?
>>532133291this webm, if not already, will forever go down in shadoba history
each expression after another when sagelight and dclimb being played is just pure raw emotion
>>532133149Yeah he'd surely win if he had 1-4 HP left after that because you just had no way killing him 1 turn later.
I swear abysskeks are retarded.
>Ugly fat retarded runenigger is too ugly fat and retarded to realize he had lethal
>turn 10
>against rune
>pucker your ass cheeks for the wild ride where someone wins or loses with 1 to 3 coinflips
Ramp dragon is such a fucking joke
>Just survive until Phoenix, play Olivia and instant win
>>532133658the 10/10 shikigami doesn't have storm by default, you still have to superevo kuon
>>532133462Then what was the point of that post if there was no chance for him to win? It made it sound like he somehow misplayed the previous 2 turns instead of the match being fucking over 5+ turns ago. I can't tell who's shitposting and who's the abysskek who posted that.
>>532133698Rune mirror is the most miserable matchup, having to sit through 10 turns of looking at each other just to see who gets the OTK, mostly its the guy going first but for the low chance that he doesnt you cant just concede as 2nd either
>>532133417and he was enough
But Norman almost turned the entire game aroun
one day, rune will be T4
one day...
>>532133658>portalnigger thinks he won because of odin sevo
Seria feels fucking useless in 9/10 games
>>532133658What you top decked? because you can't remove with odin or thunder that big fat piece of paper
one day, haven will be T0
one day...
>>532133826trvth
It's particularly amazing when you go 1st and don't brick and you SHOULD be the one who wins. And then your dshift bricks one way or the other, no 2nd kuon or 3 servants and shit, and the guy going 2nd dshifts 3 times to kill you.
>Finish crafting sword deck
>Don't feel like playing sword because it's either draw Gildaria or die
>>532134108Swordbabs really believe this
>>532133826I think the Rune mirror is one of the best matchups, you just dick around for 10 turns doing whatever the fuck and then show your hands and see who wins. Literally nothing matters, you both just dick around for a bit. so it's very low stress as long as you know not to take it seriously because someone is going to have some retarded turn at the end.
If portal is all smoke and mirrors again (wasn't anywhere near as good as you faggots were saying in legends rise), I am joining the dark side
>>532134002>>532134028...nta but divine thunder?
>>532134035that day will be the day shadoba dies
>>532134216Anon how do you play 7+4 without coin?
>>532134191I mean it's just too bricky for my taste
>>532134346NOOOOOOO WHY CAN'T MY DECK FULL OF OVERSTATTED CARDS NOT DRAW PERFECT CURVES EVERY TIME
THIS IS UNPLAYABLE
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>>532134205Portal was good last set, I mained it for over 200 games in Diamond. I have to say I'm unimpressed with it this set though. It's probably just solid tier 2, or 1.5 at best if we're being generous. Rune, Sword and Abyss are definitely the biggest winners of this set.
What is the Olivia alt art from? SVE?
>>532134346>Seriafound the problem
>>532125229Rarely
>>532128105On average, matches lasts 10 turns. They're fast
>thought I'd just face heaven
>faces only portal
>>532134541Codes from Evolve boxes
>>532134191>Play vs rune>Norman into 2x barrier 3/3>Instantly lose the game if you don't have Gildaria yes
>>532134634haven was everywhere day1 now it's like 5-10% of the metagame
>>532134540post your group distribution
>>532134713Boohoo faggot god forbid you lose a game sometimes
>>532134717I've seen nothing but haven and rune today in A2 sapphire
>Sword and Rune in a competition on who deserves to die the most
>>532134920I got the visage set
ever play against your own alt account?
>>532134920if you play sword, leader
if you dont, visage
>>532134920I really want to have albert the leader
The premium card is also sick, but I think the leader is probably the best sword leader by a lot.
>>532134993once a day for the daily with no quit and weekly 5x with a friend
>>532134993Playing against yourself is the the hardest match.
Playing CAbyss during the chest event is actual hell. Not seeing a chest after a 30 minute long game agaisnt artifact is torture.
>>532134920I took the card style because I like marie
>>532134920Albert alt card is worse desu, do the visage and you'll have everyone in 21488 drooling over you
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Aieeeeeeee
I think artifact is tier 2 now portalkeks are dead
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>Wish for all runeniggers to die
>Monkey's paw replaces them with swordtards
>>532135282all 0 people in 21488
>>532134920I've seen people use Marie and have the Albert card style. I guess it makes sense since he's a dude but objectively he's definitely better than a default leader, the evolve animation looks really good.
>>532135415it won't be the one
>>532135251What the fuck is this
>>532134920Recycle for Orchis
>>532134993people do it to burn the online win BP missions
some people just have too much ranked anxiety to do 100 online wins
>>532135514You can recycle???
>>532135596I play ranked but do the park stuff against my alt account. Guess I have lobby anxiety.
>>532135251>there are "people" who actually clicked this and posted there
>>532135632Only the 250 pity chest, not the ones you get randomly.
>>532134993i practice against my own decks
>>532134035Tenko archetype reprint soon.
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