Thread 532108192

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Previous >>532089667

mhhh tasty chicken

Finally, some good fucking food

Dragonsisters how do we cope about how we’ll probably be tier 3 again in a week?

>>532108192 (OP)
>used to be mad about people calling her ho-chan
>now it's literally her name

>>532102991
Is this really the only way to make dirt diamond-worthy? I have 0 A&G and I fucking hate them so I don't want to craft

so desu ne

:)

I feel bad for lamp dragon bros. They are suffering for two sets in a row.

Kek this deck is fun
>haha I'm not face dragon
>haha I'm not aggro abyss too

>>532108341
Just play without her she's not core. Decide later if the deck feels too bad without her, you're usually going for lol3golems anyways

鶏伝説

>play lilanthim on empty board
>opponent instantly plays odin
>waits 10 seconds before attacking
remember to be nice to swordbabbies

>>532108292
I managed to pull the entirety of sword in under 40 packs so im just playing that until next expansion

>>532108309
she stopped caring a while ago
https://svgdb.me/assets/audio/jp/vo_716431010_1.mp3

>>532108341
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXhemMCq0xY

>>532108292
we suffer till we turn into batshit insane memelords, same as always.

>Diamond Sapphire vs Diamond Master
>Sapphire player instantly plays 2 drop without any 5 drop in hand instead of catapult
>Gets punished t4
You love to see it

>Opponent could only get 14 damage burst from hand with their d-climb (they had 0 board at the start of this turn btw)
>Could only clear my board down to exactly die at 14
It's so crazy how much chip damage matters in this game

>>532108462
exclusively for people who have her leader card. otherwise it's this leader line
https://svgdb.me/assets/audio/jp/vo_3304_000_007_0.mp3

Lmao I can't believe I hit diamond with face dragon

>A3
You have no fucking idea how SHIT this deck is.

That A3 Diamond is worth multiple tournament wins against JP pros with KMR blessed RNG (cheating)

>>532108415
If she's not core why is every list 3x with her
>>532108465
? This also has 3 A&G

what a brick

>>532108541
Why? Are you telling me he loses because he gives opponent a target to unload stream of life?

>>532108607
I was just seeing that, we'll call it karmic justice for all the dirty dclimbers who farm me on ladder.

>>532108541
Holy shit this guy. Is there a reason he's saving cannon?

>men in 2025
GRIM

>>532108581
told you face dragon actually works more often under a blue moon and when all stars align unlike fishcraft

>>532108607
>penelope in a spellchud deck
what the fuck are runeniggers doing

>>532108541
honestly it is a big brained move to play jasper on t2 instead ironheart

just roped a runenigger then proceed to finish him with my Centaur
how are your matches, /svg/?

Chest event not active: ranked feels like its not rewarding. Chest event active, hate everything about it

>>532108697
Face dragon is top tier.

If the tier list was "best decks to play on a second monitor while you watch runescape youtube videos"

value-oriented rune player saving his evolves for the next game

I wish I could see my opponent's hand in replays so much.
I'm always so curious.

>>532108719
>picrel

Who are the players in the tournament? Can't be pros from the way you guys are talking about them.

WATCH WHERE YOU SPIT THAT FIRE

>>532108764
next set will be ours. they will learn to fear dragons again!

>le lamp dragon
One won the lobby I was in last week, and there's two of them

>>532108607
and of course the runenigger won.
nice "brick" btw.

>>532108914
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEk5cIxwSIk
Some top 16 tourney. I don't know how many player competed though because some of these players are kinda bad.

sword's worst matchup btw

>>532109062
kuon is basically as much burst as albert (11 vs 12), but also a great play when not killing the opponent

>>532109114
>3 cards vs 8
sword has no draw btw

>>532109062
He didn't even need the dboost. That's how bad the portal player played.

>>532109114
that is some giga brick lel did he blow his gundam too early?

Portal is such a fraud tier 1 deck. It loses to any actual top tier deck and is only favored vs the really shitty decks.

>>532109176
If he rng a DClimb, that would be 22 vs 12

How's storm haven right now?

>>532109195
it's not sword fault artifact list cut sylvia

abyssGOD

>>532109345
Haven as whole is kinda dogshit honestly

>Aggro vs midrange
LOL IT'S FUCKING OVER

Bro you're mindbroken, we didn't even start playing

that sword hand is insane

>>532109345
Garbage but you might catch some people of guard with Agnes because nobody knows she exists

>aggro abyss is going first against sword with zirconia on-curve
it's so over

>>532109345
Hybrid haven is the best build, but its still only mid tier.

>>532109345
Better than ward, but still mid

Topdecking is a skill.

>Topdecks just the card he needs
SWORDBROS THIS IS FUCKIGN RIGGED

>>532109520
Nah, hybrid is too slow

>>532109278
How many people are even still playing the old game? Surely it's beyond dead by this point.

>>532109258
It wipes sword's board sometimes so it's an unrivaled monster that can do everything better than anyone according to some people here

>>532109504
double albert is actually a stinker here, but the rest is enough to make up for it against
as I say that, he rips aragavy though

god why is jappa sound quality always so fucking bad?
well at least they're having fun

that 1/1 trade was terrible, what was he playing around?

>>532109583
Are you saying storm haven is fast?

>>532109646
If you high roll, yeah

>>532109345
imagine something like aggro abyss
except you don't kill anyone through early game pressure
and lose to rune and roach because you don't actually pressure them
and lose to swordkeks if the game goes late
and don't have heals vs aggro so you lose these games too
so basically not like aggro abyss at all

Swordbros...

that aragavy topdeck won the game

He actually stood there thinking for 15 seconds after SEVOing and then hit Orchis. I guess he was too used to autoplaying Amelia into Magus and winning off that all the way into diamond.

>Get on a decently good win streak
>Start to draw like this
Fucking why, my mulligan was amalia and 2 jenos

>odin sevo 7
>odin sevo 7
nice game

How do I go there?

>>532100396
Updated play rate
Rune: 13
Portal: 8
Sword: 4
Abyss: 3
Haven: 1
Forest: 1
Finals were Abyss/Rune vs Sword/Abyss, ended up being Abyss vs Sword, Abyss won

>>532109775
shut the fuck up retard

>>532109510
someone quick call an ambulance

>>532109883
Cry harder the abyss player conceded anyway

>>532109775
kill yourself

Bros? I thought that was a sword favored matchup? And he was going 2nd too?

THIS GAME IS SO FUCKING SLOW

>>532109851
>abyss and sword are dogshit and lose to everything!
>mfw

>>532109962
Sword only wins against opponents that brick.

>>532109962
>Topdecks just the card you need
>Don't draw your luminous mage when you need it most
>Lose
It is how it is.

>do 30 damage to abyssnigger
>still at 15

ogey

>>532109424
>>532109508
>>532109520
>>532109523
>>532109680
Game is trolling though
I opened 90 packs and it's what I got. I can't build anything

>>532109851
Sasuga...

>>532110136
>The vampire heals
Oh no!

>>532109851
>aggro abyss is only good for grinding ladder it has a shit winrate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I7TL7ANDtQ
The clash of the century

It's funny how haven is supposed to be the heal slut craft but every other craft heals better than haven, except from maybe forest

>>532110096
I haven't seen my luminous mage in so long I'm starting to wonder if it's even in my deck

>>532109851
Decklists anywhere?

shadowverse law:
if its 2x in your deck you will never see it
if its 3x, it will appear

>>532110138
build aggro abyss or tempo forest while you wait to open more

>>532110138
just use vials dumdum

I remember SV1 had a website that unofficially tracked the average ladder winrates of all the archetypes in the meta. What happened to it? Is there any equivalent for SV2?

>>532110273
Left collect ojisans and impressionable rookie e-sports fuckboys like cards.
Right fuck her own papa behind her mom back.
t. VSPOfag

>>532110434
>Aggro without Aragavy or Odin
Grim

>>532109489
What did you banish to cause that?

>Don't have aragravy to make aggro abyss
What are my options?

>>532110570
make aragay

>>532109489
There is no way in hell he wins that anyway tbqh. Should have just quit right at the start.

>>532110405
Nonsense. I draw Odin consistently and I only have 2 of him.

>>532110570
You have no other options. He's the best card in your deck

>>532110520
Right is the clear winner then

>>532110570
lol

>>532109489
that is a 95-5 matchup

>>532110570
Pretend that you have him in your deck but that you're just crazy unlucky and never draw him. Also, you lose every time.

BAHAHA I do have a grimnir in my deck, somehow it hasn't showed up in 8 games

>>532110520
>VSPO
Whats that?

>>532110625
Actually Exella is but w/e

Can someone explain/link a video to learn Roach math

>>532110459
Anyone?

>>532110727
>actually doing math and planning your lethal
ngmi

>>532110405
that one sylvia in my deck bricked my hand every game
i had to cut her it was so bad

>>532110676
>a
Not seeing a 1 of in 8 games isn't that unlikely unless you're playing rune or some shit that draws nearly your entire deck.

>>532110727
https://youtu.be/AuX7nPBqDts?feature=shared

>>532110563
Evo'd Bayle

Best deck to farm boxes in A3 emerald/topaz?

>>532110817
I haven't needed it anyways, unlike that time I made it to turn 7 as portal not drawing a single alouette, resurgence, catapult or karula

>>532108292
There is no cope. Only lamping.

>>532110894
aggro abyss

>>532110894
aggro abyss always

The only problem ward haven really has it that there is no win con. Midrange Abyss for example can just outgrind you and wait for you to deck out.

Though gotta say, as a Haven main I'm happy we are back to being low tier. I'm really not a fan of the 20+ turn mirrors.

>>532110695
Virtual Esport project. Despite the name only 3 peoples I consider esport tier. Noah, Tsuna (washed up) and Moka (only SF6).

Umineko collab leaders:
>dragon - Battler
>sword - Jessica
>abyss - Ronove
>portal - Ange
>forest - Eva-Beatrice
>rune - Beatrice
>haven - Dlanor

>>532110987
>only SF6
i have no idea how people can play/watch that boring ass game

>>532110921
How fast do you lose with this deck? I might actually try this out if games end in less than 5 minutes.

>>532110543
you should craft 2 odin anyways, you still give yourself leeway to open a third and he's useful everywhere. shame about aragavy, you don't own aria either?

>>532110928
>>532110949
Bro i can go as easy as 30 losestreak with that shit

>>532110520
>Right fuck her own papa behind her mom back.
HOT

Hi newfag here is artifact a midrange deck? Should I just go puppets seems simpler but I like the gundam

>>532111173
>A flexible deck that can play either defensively or offensively
Yep that's midrange.

>>532109587
I still get matches within minutes in rotation ranked, T2 and gran prixes. Not sure about unlimited but let's not go there.

>>532110520
>Right fuck her own papa behind her mom back.
picked the fuck up

>>532111173
If you like the Gundam then stick with artifact and start learning how to play because it'll help you later on. Puppet is very simple and there's not much to learn. It's also struggling currently whole artifact is thriving.

Why is Pascale showing off her lewd pitussy in the crest? What a slut.

>>532110740
It was self-reported stats, by people manually inputting their data.
That site was shut down after a few years because retards were feeding it false data to downplay their deck's winrate
I want /svg/ to guess which craftmains were doing it.
it was swordbabs and hags

>>532111320
I guessed correctly

>>532110954
im trying to play the long game with you as control mecha but the matchup is unplayable
>4hp min. when my gamma board clear is 3 dmg
>jeanne can clean out even an artifact board buffed by ralmia
>mecha fanfare aoe dmg is a joke compared to the hp of you wards
>if i ever get to win the board you just grail bro
i refuse to play beta spam but at this rate your haglads are gonna make me do it...

So is sword top tier now? Or do they still geting bullied by runes and artifacts?

>>532111320
It was still pretty nice back in the day when I played around 8 years ago. I wish something like that existed today.

>>532111320
every fucking time

So what did we learn from this tournament?

>artifag can run odin
what the fuck is this shit man it's unbeatable
odin odin orchis or karula if he needs health into gundam
triple wincon

>>532110637
>>532111242
>>532111169
This is her parents btw.

>>532111314
she was always a footslut, what are you even talking about

>>532110881
KWAB

>>532111475
topdecking is a skill

Will they ever give puppets a way to deal with luminous mage

>>532111515
Look at her crest in game, she's showing off her armpit in your face in it.

>>532111545
luck has always been a skill

>>532111475
If you cannot manifest the cards you need to win every game why are you even playing

>>532110954
It's pretty much the same wincon that us to have a board (aether) then buff (jeanne)

>>532111551
bro your noah?

>>532111551
broooo just apollo them XDDdd

>>532111475
partecipants weren't good so it wasn't worth watching

>>532111551
Start running Apollo again lol

I just can't make forest work

>>532111551
Lishenna and her groupies will give puppets mass AOE at cost of killing own followers.

How many times can you rematch? Can you keep going forever?

>>532111701
ft2

>>532111701
Best of 3

You can still win without Aragravy but you will have a hell out of a time versus board-based craft like Sword

When I play roach I don't lose to you, I lose to myself

>>532111475
rune and sword are the most broken decks, who would have known

>>532111551
pray they reprint puppet bomb

>>532111808
but abyss won the whole thing?

>>532108192 (OP)
Jesus fucking christ, this guy had everything. Meanwhile I get one ginsetsu and get my Cerb right before I would have died otherwise.

>>532111417
Yeah seems about right. I had some artifact players just quit early because they couldnt clear my board.

Good for you that ward haven is kinda ass all around lol. I already switched to storm.

>>532111813
What are their plans? Are they just going to reprint things I don't get the new game still

>>532110993
I don't know who this girl is or why do you think she fits portal but she's cute so I would swipe

>>532111813
>4pp
>only kill 1 with self
Isn't this kinda bad

>>532111046
You lose quickly, but winning, not so much. Sometimes it ends fast; sometimes it goes to turn 10 or more. I'm in ruby, so probably not much of a reference.

I am way too good at this game

>>532111996
iirc she was a smug bitch and the best part of that garbage so i will gladly take her for my craft

Does she have any decks? I want to play with her.

>>532109851
AbyssGODs run this shit

>>532109851
dragonbros.....

You dare try to out aggro me....?

>>532112169
sharkman should be neutral ngl

>>532109851
Where are your skeleton jpgs NOW

How much you guys whaled? I droped like 100$ on the game and thinking of getting more, though it feels bad without any of the bundles or other rewards and just blow them on 10er packs

>>532112169
>mom look i won against bricked abyss
ok

What do you think the Omen designs will be like given the power level of SV2?

midrange abyss is trash. why is everyone pushing this meme.

>>532112437
sorry you lost to t5 deck abysschud

Why would someone choose to be a runenigger
Ridiculous

What a meta, every class is represented

>>532112421
200 jpy

that new 8pp dirt legendary is basically lapis but playable (and in a craft with cards which can carry that sort of nonsense)

>>532112509
post dicklist now

>>532112421
I only bought the first farer pack or whatever for $2. If there's a bp or collab leader I like then I'll actually pay up.

>>532112421
0 bux
will prolly buy the 2 bucks deal tho later on
was thinking on buying luna but since i got cerb im feeling ok now

>>532112539
its just the classic dirt without OD satan, 2x lilianthum, 2x odin , 2x Kuon and the rest is standard

what the fuck

>>532112491
It's not my fault the game gave me every rune leggo without crafting any.

>>532112509
Healthy 5 craft meta. No nerfs. NEXTO!

When you start to lose to decks that need combo multiple cards to do their thing, it's sign that you should quit the game and play again tomorrow. KMR rigged your matches.

>>532112491
There is no shame in playing the best deck.
You don't get bonus rating for playing a bad deck.

>>532109851
Link of the stream?

Wait you can only buy the overpriced 45 bucks thing ONCE? what the fuck

>>532112596
the hunter became the hunted...

>>532112596
Abysskeks fear the Skullfane

>>532109646
People see Storm and completely misunderstand what Storm Haven is about. It's a control deck using Storm to push damage to face while removing enemy threats.

>>532112596
Either memes or emerald

>>532112464
Lish amulets will be crests instead to not hinder Orchis and not autolose in odinverse

>turn 2 luminous lancer
>turn 3 valse
>turn 4 valse
>turn 5 zirconia
>turn 6 doge
>turn 7 whatever
>turn 8 amalia
>turn 9 albert
I'm so done with this shit. They keep drawing the same thing

>>532112421
only the bundles (and 10pack deal) so I have enough stash to buy BP every month/season

>>532112783
>doges
you lost to a garbage deck

>>532112421
I boughted the Luna leader and the first BP. No more than that.

>>532112596
lmao

Aggro abyss is unplayable now in A
>sword can just shut you down as easy as haven and both in A are common
>rune used to be easy match up now are all dirt
>puppets
>some forest too even
I am currently on a loseatreak big enough i ended in Emerald from Ruby and only 2 boxes collected

>>532112757
soulless as fuck
playing the orange bubbled eggs was the best part

>>532109851
Nooooo Rune is a meme deck no one would take it to a tourney!
Kill all runenniggers. They are going to downplay for at least a fucking year how their pushed garbage "only got to semi finals"

>>532112845
it's literally what the top 2 player in the world is spamming bro. skill issue

'member when /svg/ lost their shit over this?

>>532112845
>NOOOOOOO MY BRAINDEAD UNGA BUNGA THAT ENDS GAMES BY TURN 8 DOESN'T WIN EVERY GAME!!!!!
ok

>>532112965
I remember when they lost their shit over the 3/3

>>532112965
turns out the craft has access to so much broken shit that a card that's merely strong isn't good enough to make the cut

>>532112845
sometimes you lose brother, especially with aggro where you only have so many decision points.

>>532112893
Nice observation and both are now in Ruby and Sapphire

>>532112734
he did manage to make it to ruby so he might have an idea

>those eboy vtuber shadow streamers with 4k+ viewers
>dozens of female viewers commenting
how 2 get shadoba gf

>>532112987
Try 5
Aggro needs to have opponent in odin sevo kill range by 5 or it's a guarantee lose
It's a bot deck

>>532112757
It will remain amulets, they'll just slap aura on it
it's funny that the best puppet wincon has nothing to do with puppets or it was roach

>>532112757
>thinking they'll do anything correctly with puppet cards
haven't touched the new expansion yet?

>>532113050
Would love to see their deck. Running skullfane is ballsy as hell

>chest event starts at 7am and resets at 10pm on a monday
who the fuck thought this was a good idea

why did he abandon?

>>532113081
>dozens of female viewers
Uh huh

MOOOOOM

>>532113029
who cares when you get points faster than diamondfags regardless 草

did they buff chest rate?

>play 1 game
>get chest
>
i already have too many 'dusas why do chests give set 1 legs??
can i stop playing now?

aggrotards tend to quit when i play blue artifact on turn 3

>>532113218
I've gone 6-2 today and have 4 chests, so I assume so.

>>532112845
Play control. Aggro abyss felt like trash and I dropped to topaz playing it. By playing control abyss I'm now AA diamond.
Sure, games take longer, but you don't just instantly lose the moment the enemy doesn't fold in the first few turns.

It took me 10 wins over 18 games to get my 5 chests

>>532113281
portal is an auto loss for aggro and they have to wait till turn 3 for no penalty. what you play doesn't matter, they already made up their mind to leave when the match started.

>>532110520
I only know Benis :DD

>>532113105
2nd expansion only boost Artifact. They wouldn't boost Artifact again in next set because that would be stupid. If they print too much stuff for only artifact archetype, Portal would end up not using the new card at all. Even some artifag cut out Karura because there is so many cards to use.

>>532113281
Aggro vs artifact is a 10-90 matchup, only winnable if artifact bricks. Not much point in wasting time.

>>532113504
>They wouldn't boost Artifact again in next set
I have guts feeling that portal anathema will support artifact

You simply cannot win against Rune with Haven.

>every guild is either sweatlords or dead
I want a nice social guild. How do I find one?

>>532113610
uhm, ackchually if they have all their williams at the bottom of the deck you can

>>532113281
>valse
What now bitch?

>>532113640
right here

>>532113640
why talk in guild when you can talk here

>>532113610
Storm Haven does surprisingly well into it but yeah. Ward is doomed.

>>532113640
Writing messages in this game is so obtuse that you have to stop playing, go through 3 menus just to reply

>>532113640
u don't wanna see the erp social guilds bwo...

>>532113610
Haven loses to fucking Lamp. That's how you know it's bad

>>532113730
I like jumping around and then stopping to type, and I like having consistent personalities I can bounce off of.

No offence to /svg/ but you guys are all smelly and probably use AI to ERP.

>>532113805
Slow deck that wins via board loses to a deck running nine boardwipes! SHOCKING.

>>532113640
>sweatlords
aka people playing the game.

>>532113610
Just switch to storm already

Apologize.

Reminder that you should run lucrative deal as a surprise mill finisher against rune and for long games.

What craft should I main so when I reach diamond I get the respect of /svg/ and all girls will like me?

>>532113640
my guild talks a decent amount and there's only 4 master sweatlords in it (myself included)

>>532113765
true, it can't be that hard to have a chat box available while in a game, can it?

>>532114090
>lethal against tier4 deck
MOMMMM CAMERAAAAA

>>532114308
he's using a tier6 deck

GIVE ME MY CHEST CYJEW

>try out Sword
>board gets constantly wiped out with very little possible comeback, even with Gildaria or Albert
>just go back to playing roach
And sword is supposed to be meta?

>>532114273
Abyss

>>532114308
even doe I also play a tier 4 deck

The 5th chest was really nice.

>>532114308
>downplaying against literal 9pp do nothing
havenfags will truly stoop that low

>>532112965
>Its literally 3 cost William

>>532114273
Dragon, abyss is a soulless T1 deck

>>532114627
What's even the point of playing dragon when there's no JO crystal in the card pool? It's soulless without it.

>>532113640
define sweatlord and dead
i wouldn't describe my guild as either of those and it has a few open slots but we do expect you to log in regularly

>>532112965
it still feels nice playing it on curve for 2 damage and, when it stays in your hand a really long time, it can clear a board.

bros, how good is puppet portal?

>>532114273
sword

would william be balanced if, when you played william, you were allowed to punch your opponent?

>>532113905
how come the other decks that also try to build a board get to have strong earlies then??

>Gets 1 good silver
>Best version of the craft solely because it has actual wincons
Funny.

Why cygames like this?
I send a support ticket complaining about the gem bundle lockout "limit reached" when there shouldn't be a limit.
>well sometimes that happens
????????
Fix it then?
HELLO?

>>532114852
It's trash that happens to have a good matchup against a common deck.

>>532114852
no wincon meme

26 winstreak
https://x.com/yoiseba/status/1947168860140159100

>>532114852
don't listen to downplayers, you can get 70% WR if you optimize it

>>532114989
starting rank and group?

>>532113640
we dont have any criteria but login since the other guys are there to make the guild S lol

>Lasr copy of Gildaria I need
Do your chest

>>532115027
that information is irrelevant

>>532115072
5th chest too?

>>532115004
the best artifact player cant even get 60%
you arent touching that unless youre in shitlo stomping retards

>>532113610
I play 1 Satan for the matchup but it only works if they don't straight up kill you on turn 10 with Kuon or Astaroth.

>>532115072
I would if the event didnt start right during my wageslave hours and reset exactly when I got off work

>>532115125
the golds and legos seem to be from the small chest
ive never gotten anything but a pittance of gold and vials from the big one

>>532108696
Name of vtuber?

>>532115027
It's not a streamer so there's no way to verify but the screenshot is Master Diamond.

>>532114989
I would play this if the games didnt take ages

Is there any reason why sword players don't run Kagemitsu anymore? Like is Odin really that big of a scare for the card?

>>532115125
Yes

>>532113320
Show your abyss deck please...

>>532114989
How come /svg/ never mald against abyss when there is this shit?
I'm nooticing

>>532115261
its just not that good
it had a niche as your turn 7 superevo storm face before
but now you just play odin and it goes through wards too for no reason

>>532115170
I'll farm it for you, just give me your account :)

MOOOOOOM

>>532115261
It was always shit card that just happened to work because it countered the cancer meta

>>532112965
it's run in hybrid rune

>>532115279
I just play this netdeck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGbXLGi2Fow
Watch the video to learn the mulligans and how to play it.

>Dudes clearly playing aggro
>All of a Medusa out of nowhere
Huh

>>532115405
It takes 30 minutes per game so that win streak took him 13 hours. In that same time, a swordbab deck can get 100+ wins.

>>532115170
i don't think it's reasonable to expect them to schedule around your 18 hour work days

>>532115645
Probably missing an Odin and replaced it with another 7 cost

>>532115645
he pulled that card and he's gonna play that damn card

7 games in a row I went first goddamn

>>532115739
yeah except you know I also sleep 7h

Ceres leader when?

>>532115680
even more reason to get angry
but /svg/ will mald more at ward haven for stalling their wins, kek

Haven Ward is fine, just get lucky

Pretty embarrassing that this had to happen so soon but there's no way Norman isn't getting nerfed

>>532115261
it was never a great card, it was just played because it helped pressure decks better than the alternative (and even then, a lot of people didn't run it).
Now that there's much better 3s (grimnir and princess second half) and also a better way to have reach, it really doesn't serve a purpose. It would need to have storm (or at least rush) baseline on respawn to be playable imo

>>532114589
It's 3 cost Gravy though?

Just got my 4th ticket (light spender), I'm so happy bwos. KMR loves me

>>532115837
>Expecting that the pet craft will ever get meaningfully nerfed
First time playing shadowverse?

>>532114989
how does this work? all the leggies need evo, no?

just lost to rune healing SIXTEEN (16) hp in two turns

Why doesn't puppetcraft have heals?

>>532115807
i don't think you understand information

>>532115905
No but I'm also not an overemotional retard like you, the card is legitimately overtuned unlike anything else you've ever cried about.

>>532115834
>3

We have plenty of cards of little girls, but no cards of little boys. Fucked up if you ask me.

>>532115917
no?

>>532115887
I keep alternating between the sets because I still want the albert ticket, but I'm short a few legos from the new set.

>>532115924
she's so cute and autistic...

>>532115917
not medusa or ginsetsu
charon is also a waste of an evo point
and evoing gravy is greedy af

>>532114989
lol, lmao even

>>532115942
Bro... Your Silvia?

>>532116012
your puppet shota?

>>532116012
bro your puppet lancer?

>Be spellboostkek since release
>Loss streak to Sapphire
>Decide to use it as an excuse have fun with Filene
>Play Lamp
>Down to Ruby, probably Topaz soon
Bros...

I think I won't be mad about the way smaller amount of RNG involved in spellboost anymore. Or maybe it's time to embrace rock bottom and just go face. I need to grind ranks anyway.

>>532116012
We know Titania

AF isn't good, I don't care what you guys say. It was better last set

>>532116141
Most lists run 20, actually.

>>532115563
what does this mean nyo....

>>532115408
>>532115453
>>532115856
I see. Thanks for the input. Was facing a lot of aggro sword and just wondering why I never saw him again.

Why is there so much rune in B3 ruby

>>532116065
>not a single olivia
what the heck deck have you been even playing

>NOOO you can't run Orchis or Norman in the other archetype, nerf them right now
>nobody complains when Abyss puts every single one of their legendaries into one deck

>>532116206
might as well stop pretending you're still f2p if you run it

>>532116193
you lose early tempo in new AF trying to make sure your mechs have ward/rush+draw a card, but in exchange your late-game/draw is way stronger

>>532116316
Artifact and the new Roach decks without Olivia

>>532116206
I pulled all 20 of them for free but I fucking hate playing this deck

Why

>>532116193
if it was better last set use the deck from last set. the cards didn't rotate out.

>dropped from sapphire to emerald
this is a RNG game

Which nightmare legendary should I globe next? I plan on getting the cerb cards if I get the ticket.

>>532116326
If you main one craft, you can own a full playset of the cards in that craft and a full playset of all neutrals f2p without much difficulty.
Meta slaves without dedication to a single craft are the only ones who have to paypig for decks like this.

>>532116282
orange: keep
green: only keep pyura if you have mino
pink: keep when going second

>>532116321
/svg/ is a bloodkin general.

This meta somehow makes 1st set look balanced and fun, jesus christ

Just went 6 game in-between chests fuck you never even conceded

>>532116452
Charon is value because she respawns the cards in premium form

is it true that forestcraft is only properly piloted by engineers and mensa members ?

>>532116337
It's way too clunky for small payoff. Compared to the shit Sword and Rune are doing it's such a joke

>>532116485
wait do people really just "main" one craft forever?
how do you even learn the game playing like that

>>532116321
I know, /svg/ is abyss central
That's why nobody ever complains about abyss
Think about it

What will it be bros?

>>532116448
skill issue

>>532116581
I have no interest in playing inferior crafts that lack my beloved waifus.

>>532116542
fairy forest seemed rather autopilot-ey to me compared to pure roach from last patch

>>532116581
you read the cards

>>532116627
gyaru

>>532116581
I just watch streamers that play other crafts to kind of understand what they're thinking

>>532116581
you play your matchups a lot and that's what matters
who cares about learning the game? it doesn't matter if you know the intricacies of rune vs artifact if you only play sword

>>532116642
did you spend money?

>>532116581
You just think a little while looking at what your opponents are playing. Look at netdeck lists and think some more. It's not that hard to figure out what cards they run and how the deck plays, without playing it.

>>532116452
Charon will only get better in value as they print more cards. Imagine if they bring back something similar to Skullfish or Grudge Teller.

coin prim is the gayest shit

What should I use my orbs on? I have two legendary orbs burning a hole in my pocket.
(I plan on adding a third gildaria when I open one).

>>532116671
>3rd DClimb
I'll take it

>>532116642
>set 1
now post craft wins runesissy

>>532116727
I want my good dogs back, both blood wolf and savage wolf.

>>532116642
based rune player dabbing on freelo

>>532116708
not once

Ok fuck it I'm switching to the best deck. Is this the best list currently? Is 2 Normans fine?

>>532116819
looks ass

>>532116759
I don't use orbs until 3 set, it's the one that will really solidify what is good and what will be quickly forgotten
I don't expect odin to stay in the meta beyond this set for example.

>>532109258
it doesn't even beat ward haven. i don't know if it beats ramp dragon either. i actually can't name a single good artifact matchup besides aggro abyss and forest in general.

>>532116581
Unless you are whale, that's the smartest thing to do

>>532116642
>>532116783
>>532116809
runemind

>>532116898
dragon loses to itself half the time

>>532116748
No gayer than coin Beryl

>>532114989
That singleton Yuna is so random, I understand getting the ward+bat against aggro is great, but with one copy how often are you going to have her when it matters

Holy fuck I just played all my 12 chest games going first what the hell is going on?

>>532116902
I have 4 complete decks, vials for 2 more and havent spent a dime, not even the 2€ pack

>>532116819
what is this retarded shit

>>532116783
infinity beyond is this set bwo
>>532116809
>>532116924
im an honest guy playing the thinking mans deck (artifact)

>>532116895
>I don't expect odin to stay in the meta beyond this set for example.
>Better Emeralda is le bad
Retard.

>>532116890
>>532117009
It's some 16 win streak diamond list, do you have better shitters?

>>532114876
Because Sword, Portal and Rune are Cygames pet classes. Rune doesn't get an early board so in compensation they get the best: legendaries, healing, draw, PP economy, OTK, boardwipes.

>>532117018
which tier 1 deck was still playing Odin in RoB again, newbab ... ?

>>532116024
My luck with legos has been abysmal so I've been stuck with forest since starting lol

>>532116759
>>532116895
the easiest globes for me are waifus I really like I can 100% see myself putting in the deck and playing like ralmia and miriam for artefact portal

>>532117093
>Rune doesn't get an early board
Mysteria is coming.

>>532116759
Use it on your favourite card bro.
Gildaria

>>532117159
RoB Odin was 8pp do nothing. New Odin is much more similar to Emeralda, except strictly better, and she remained relevant for a while.

>>532116321
Abyss legendaries are generic goodstuff and and the only one that actually feels like a Blood card is Aragavy which is the most goodstuff of them all

When does the chest reward stuff reset? I just got my 4th or 5th chest and now it's back to 5/5!?

>>532116759
i used my orb on my ralmia
i have 4 of her so whenever i need vials or she rotates i can redeem her

>>532117016
post deck please i'm tired of trying to make dirt and abyss work

>>532117261
Charon, nominally a shadow card, is actually most similar to Dark Airjammer from SV1, and that was a blood card.
The lines between blood and shadow are heavily blurred in SV2.

>>532117286
anon....

>plays full dirt
>still has 20+ spellboost on their shit
make it make sense

>>532116007
Make it 4, two times against Rune player. I'm not flexing, I just hate when people say that Ward Haven loses to Rune, don't get me wrong it's a hard match up, but not one sided like people say it is.

>>532116321
That is not a good thing. If you need 20 legendaries in your deck, it's mean your deck is shit.

Norman-sama, tasukete!

If I don't care about the purchase bonuses, then it's better to use my crystals on the daily deal than on the bundles, right?

>>532117395
Yay tanoshi!

>>532117286
Based swordbro

>>532117286
Swordbab...

What's /svg/'s tierlist like?

>>532117261
And Charon is just legendary Luminous Mage
>when you only get one Ward because you fail to get a skeleton
Feelsbadman

>>532116521
>>532116727
Say less.

>>532117479
Is he the new /svg/ mascot? Getting tired of all the gooner waifus

>>532117434
>I'm not flexing,
>Winning against dirt
lol

I started this expansion today and thought I was playing against Spellboost so I left their Kuon alive and set up for lethal since another Kuon wouldn't have killed me but then they played Odin and I lost. I don't remember Spellboost in SV1 ever being able to run cards like that but I guess this was actually Dirt.

>>532117336
just netdecked rikka
idk how i feel about the 1 drop

I always win more in the morning... Are morning players worse?

>>532117578
Tier 0: whatever deck I have a bad matchup against
Tier 1: most other decks
Tier 7: my deck
All answers will be variations on this.

>>532117578
Tier 1
Sword
Rune

Tier 2
Abyss
Forest
Portal

Tier 3
Haven
Dragon

>>532117660
ty

>>532117597
Charon is Dark Airjammer like anon said

>>532117348
Abyss is basically just Black, rather than being torn between two classes like it was in SV1

I've beginning to win a lot more with Aggro Abyss when I started THINKING

>Storm haven is a good deck but bad against ward haven
>Ward haven is trash
>Retards still play ward
It's good there is no in-game chat otherwise I would probably be banned already.

i hate rune so much its unreal

>>532117784
>Storm haven is a good deck

Norman should summon sediment on Fanfare if there isn't any stack on the board
he's literally a do nothing without stack

>>532117752
Airjammer doesn't need you to populate the Graveyard though

byuuuuuuun~

>>532117261
cerberus is eachtar bro

man i'm sorry....

What list is para playing atm?

>>532117908
Norman should have a hidden interaction when Anne & Grea are on the field and impregnate them both

>>532117908
god forbid you have to play dirt to use dirt cards

Charon feels so fucking good when she brings back a Mimi for lethal.

>>532117784
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T PLAY WHAT YOU WANT YOU HAVE TO PLAY THE BETTER DECK!!!

>>532117979
Lilanthim Rune

>>532117908
kys spellbooster

topaz here, why does phildau deserve the golden border?

>>532117578
Tier 1: Dirtboost Rune, Midrange Sword, Midrange Abyss
Tier 2: Artifact Portal, Aggro Abyss, Roach
Tier 3: Dragon lmao, Haven lmao, Puppet Portal

>>532117973
I know

>>532117939
It doesn't, but functionally it plays out pretty similarly, shit is dying anyway.

>>532116902
I only had to craft Odin to play two more classes.

Why are swordbabs removing JENO LEVIN

>>532117939
Both Charon and Airjammer are (mostly) guaranteed to give you one two-drop. Both have a condition you have to meet to summon a second follower. The two cards are very similar.

>>532118114
midrange abyss is a meme. loses horribly to rune, 50/50 vs sword (?) what is it even doing there.

>>532118095
What list exactly, can you post it? Is it the one with only 1 copy of Lala?

>>532118106
SOKOU NANTOKA MOU IKAI

>>532116581
Does "main" means never playing any other classes at all or just play one class in vast majority of games? I "main" a class but I play everything enough to know what everyone can do so I adapt better with the class I actually like. I have about 7000 ranked wins in sv1 and maybe 5000 of those are in one class.

>>532118352
I had 3200 ranked wins in SV1 and 2500 of them were in one class.

>>532117578
>T1
Spellboost Rune with Norman
Midrange/20+ legendary Abyss
Roach Forest
>T2
Midrange Sword
Aggro Abyss
Ramp Dragon
Artefact Portal
>T3
Puppet Portal
Ward Haven
Aggro Sword
Aggro Dragon

doesn't midrange abyss just completely shit on aggro abyss?

>>532118183
7pp do nothing

Can you believe that she actually really good for her set back in the original shadoba

>>532118426
Everything shits on aggro abyss, that deck was only good day 1 while everyone was experimenting and many people were running greedy lists without anti-aggro tools.

>>532118478
SAA SHIGOTO SHIMASUKA

>>532118426
Hell no

>>532118426
How so? It has no early game and gets swarmed easily
>but Araga-
The damage is already done, it's all storm and razory claws from there

>>532118426
aggro abyss is only good for grinding out ranking points / chests, it is not a very consistent deck

All cards that summon or use dirt should automatically reduce all spellboost in hand to 0 on play, I'm tired of spellniggers jacking my cards and using them better than an honest pure dirt deck.

>>532118412
midrange sword's matchups are so much better than midrange abyss's it's a joke. you're obviously a sword main.

>>532118478
That whore killed so many of my blood wolves...

>rune
>rune
>rune
>facedragon
>rune
>rune

>>532118623
nope, I actually main portal

>>532118478
>>532118525

>>532118412
Swordbab hands wrote this post.

Why is drain so rare compared to every other ability in the game? Literally only bats and meme ghost man have it

>>532118575
cuz they have lots of early removal and wards
and as abyss, they have pretty much the same reach as you playing aggro. and of course you won't ever win past turn 7

I think the ui/ux in this game is dogshit. Every single ui/ux elements that exists in sv1 was made worse in wb.

>A3 Sapphire
>5 loss streak
>Win 1 game
>AA0 trial popup
>Win 2 games out of 3 in trial
>So that's 3 win streak
>Diamond
????
Weird

>>532118106
cygame like to make a neutral gold 2/2 everg pack like 2/2 natura card or the chef

>>532118814
it is dogshit, extremely convoluted

Why is Lloyd the only puppet without rush?

Post your predictions for the omen designs given SV2 power level.

>>532118948
because he should have storm

>>532118478
this shitter is used in neutral blood mirror to kill 3/1 tove

>>532118892
it's cygame tax repayment for playing hag

>Swordnigger gets unavoidable damage in once from ambush
>Die the second they reach 9pp
How do swordtards downplay this?

>>532118948
his 6-inch ass is too heavy

>>532118974
Gilnelise win the game for you when she comes down.

>>532118948
doll killer has no rush

>>532118974
I swear to god if they remove loot I will shit on kmr doorstep

>>532118974
Rulenye and Valnareik, silent lust
10pp 4/6
Fanfare: choose mode:
1. Enemy cards cost 3 more to play next turn
2. Destroy an enemy follower and gain +2/+2 and storm

JUST

>14 games today
>8 rune 5 sword 1 portal
When are they gonna nerf cards

>>532118948
lies.doll slayer has only ambush and last words

>>532118426
If you would please consult the chart

>>532119258
Octrice steals an archetype from her class this time. Absolute kinography.

>>532119339
in shadoba it's midrange and arrows to other three

It's impossible to win the sword mirror going first.

>>532119339
>aggro beats combo
*laughs in 56hp*

>>532114989
>1 of orthrus
>1 of yuna
>1 of mukan
but why

>>532118774
Honestly not really. Beryl can actually be a headache to deal with early and if they hit it with a Razory Claw it's not even that awful a trade because you're not really playing for board anyway. Not to mention all of the stormers. It's an extremely volatile matchup and I actually feel more comfortable playing the aggro mirror than I do midrange vs aggro

>>532119396
And it needs all 21 to be on par with other classes lmao

ｲｴｰｲﾀﾉｼｰ!

>>532119304
Oh yeah that card
Why does Vier have to be so shit

>Runenigger heals for 8
>Makes a tall body
>Not even super evol
I miss LoR

>>532119434
>op coin prim
>maid gun her down like a dog

>>532119339
yeah bro, maybe if rune gets nerf to death

>>532118751
I like that it's just an Abyss thing so far. This was a neutral that let control decks negate all chip damage the opponent dealt for 2PP and an evo. You could target herself with the buff to heal for 6.

Two or three Norman in Dirtboost?

>>532119632
2 is good but wouldn't be surprised if 3 is better

I don't feel confident in my deck to play...

phoenix fanfare should give crest instead and they should give dragon shuffles

>>532119339
Where does artifact fit in these?

Haven niggers are starting to piss me off

>>532118974
Izudia - will actually be strong this time and make control forest the next cancer.
Octorice - will be great and make sword even stronger just like Gildaria did this set.
Raio - will either make spellboost stronger or will be a meme casino card that will somehow still see play.
Galmieux - will be a good card that will still fail to elevate dragon from t3
Rulenye - will make control abyss decks have 23 legendaries
Valnareik - will make aggro abyss way stronger and help keep slow decks in check
Marwynn - will improve control haven and give us 30+ turn mirror hag games in weekly tournaments, will fail to elevate haven from t3 however
Lishenna - will finally make puppets strong unless they make her AF exclusive in which case it'll just make AF stronger

>>532119282
Valnareik, the Lust(3)
Legendary
2/3
When this follower comes into play if you have dealt damage to your leader defense this turn give it +2/+2 and Storm
On your turn every time you deal damage to yourself give this +1/+1
Evolve:Restore (amount of times you self damaged) defense to your leader

>>532119794
I can't wait for the 25+ legendary CAbyss lists that include both Rulenye and Gilnelise.

>>532119794
Jerry - will suck because they released him too early and there aren't enough good cards to make highlander decks yet
Gilnelise - will be 3x in every deck thanks to having drain

>>532119443
Utility cards that you don't want to see too much in a match. Othrus can feel awful off Charon and Yuna can clog up your hand. Though I think current midrange can afford 3 Mukan

>>532117194
I did Ralmia and Carnelia.
Carnelia's animated card is really pretty with the falling glass shards.

I hope the Forest Anathema is a 1PP that has combo

What's even point of haven in this game? Other crafts heal better than it, other crafts have better wards than it, other crafts have better utility/removal than it (minus cum chalice).

>>532120018
>and there aren't enough good cards to make highlander decks yet
I could see Abyss Highlander potentially being a thing, given how many legendaries they already run.

>>532117621
He makes losing to rune bearable unironically

Why did they make Liam so underpowered? At least his effect shouldn't need evolve

>>532120035
It just makes no sense, especially with early drops, how the fuck you gonna get that Orthus or Yuna the times you need it? And how many times will it randomly show up in long games to fuck you over?

>>532120018
I hope they don't make the mistake of making omen of storms gil again

>>532119443
>Cerberus can deal 7 face damage while clearing the board
Uhm tf? How is she not a better orchis?

>>532120168
how does she clear aether

>>532120084
Breeding kink

>have almost 70% winrate in diamond masters this season with 3 different decks

Am I just insanely good or what?

>>532120168
Orchis can potentially deal up to 25 damage out of hand given enough preparation. And Orchis is also better at clearing the board thanks to bane.

>>532120252
My dick throbs every time i see her. . .

>>532120252
>didn't draw toes

>>532120270
KMR blessed your rolls

>>532120270
yeah i dont believe you

What exactly are sword and haven's gimmicks? All the other classes have board spam and amulet cards

>>532119794
>Playing board and making intelligent decisions = cancer
>Brainless handless = good
Total runa and vampy genocide when?

>>532120508
Are you trying to say sword doesn't have board spam?

>>532120508
Breedable maids and princesses
Breedable nuns and angels

>>532120359
footfagsisters how do we respond???

is rune literally invincible
which deck beats it
this one healed for 24

>>532116810
>$2.19
Wasn't it cheaper last month?

>>532120508
Sword gimmick is do it all cards that don't need any resource to be spent

tempo forest is trash, this shit aint YEY TANOSHI no more

holy fuck godwood staff is fucking amazing

>>532120716
im a fucking leaf…

>>532120508
overstatted do it all followers that do things and board flood without spending evos (except my queen who demands cock as tribute)

>>532120508
smartest swordbab

This decks makes me feel like an absolute brainlet
I just can't figure outt the good game pplan
I feel think taking off all 3 charon because she is legit 5pp do absolute nothing in my head
I want to like the foxes too but i can'tt even think how they can turn a game without just dying anyways the turn after

>>532120760
a
fucking
leaf
sorry, force of habit

>>532120873
>didn't drop crypt for cerb

>>532120467
I would go back further but we cant, we also cant track stats for some stupid ass reason, the third deck is midrange abyss, the runedeck is 2x lilianthum no OD no Satan , and the sworddeck is just midrange with double yurius

>>532120282
Be realistic 25 damage is never happening

>>532120168
Because the point of Cerb is to buff an existing board, the other shit is just a bonus

>>532120924
never found the time

>>532120814
Sexo with this queen

>>532117874
Just because people build it like retards does not mean it's not better. It's essentially a burn control deck. I am still seeing people run the fucking Gryphon so yeah. No wonder the average room temp gigabrain here thinks it's bad

>>532110993
>No Erika
>No Lambda
>NO BERN
Absolute shit tier list.
>Dragon- Battler
>Sword- Dlanor
>Abyss- Bern
>Portal- Ange
>Forest- Maria
>Rune- Beatrice
>Haven- Lambda

explain in your own words what matchup makes midrange abyss tier 1.

>>532120992
How? Rune literally can't attack you

>>532120948
>Be realistic 25 damage is never happening
Sure, but my point is she has an extremely high ceiling for out of hand damage. And that's on top of her being better at clearing boards.

>>532120625
answer me

>>532120760
Oh, sorry
I feel your pain, I'm from EU

>>532121053
How rune cant attack me?

>>532120873
Cerb>Odin>win?

>>532120873
Control decks all feel like ass to play because you have to think till rope every turn for 15 turns every game and if you misplay once you die

Roachfuckers...

>>532121083
Sword is 50/50
Midrange Abyss also has a decent shot

>noooooooo Sword cant beat rune!!!!
Trash opinion

>>532118106
You'll understand one day when Masked Man summoned by Charon kills your Old Man/Lesbians behind their crutch wards

TAG! TAG! TAG! TAG! TAG! TAG!

>>532121120
They have only odin and kuon that has storm

>>532121183
lily rapes this

>>532121065
She actually needs that too because building boards is something Puppet can't really do compared to Abyss which was like half of the point of Shadow

>>532121187
bro I AM playing mirange abyss, I have 100% loss rate, they heal forever and can't last hit them

Has earth rite EVER been good? Way back when I played SV1, it was bad then and it's bad now.

>>532121272
Learn to play I guess, I play both rune and abyss so my opinion is correct

>>532121239
And Grea
And other bodies not even evolving i make it to their defense

>>532120270
>>532120938
you need to play at least 50 games (on one deck) for the real consistent numbers

>>532121291
Bro your Acid Golem?

>>532120938
lets see the group distribution

>roach is still beating parachan's hybrid rune consistently
roach has no choice but to save shadoba

>>532121272
all this midrange abyss shilling is runetroon propaganda. its at least 70/30 favored for rune but they like to loe and mystify.

>>532121343
>I play both rune
Oh so you're a downplayer, ok

>>532121291
It was the best deck when old man Levi just burst you 3 times for 18 damage face + boardclear

>>532121291
it was good when it was burn damage focused instead of this meme board flood shit, maybe if guardian golems were 5/5s it'd be good

>>532121291
It took them 8 years to make it good, when it did it was very very good

>>532120508
Haven either has a lot of Ward (sword has basically none) or "delayed Storm" amulets that let them build up to high impact turns in return for being do nothing. I expect eventually we will get damage clamp effects like Elana.
Sword has Infinite Value, a Sword unit is gonna be pound for pound better than anything that's not a Rune Legendary. Or that onion witch which for some reason is just Sword Card But Infinitely Better.

>play 8pp 4/4
>lose next turn because it doesn't do anything help early bricking
who came up with this dumpster card

>>532121418
roach should be better against rune this set than last, rune is slower and cut flame destroyers so they have no way to kill forest at all until t10, which is also slower because they cut a lot of spellboost.

>>532120270
Where do you see your winrate? Or are you just counting manually

>>532119794
>Lishenna - will finally make puppets strong unless they make her AF exclusive in which case it'll just make AF stronger
wait is she not even puppet
are we really going to pay the anathema tax

Do you think IE balanced going 1st vs 2nd?

I think anyone who thinks there will be any nerfs until the accelerated release schedule is over is delusional. There's no point in nerfing cards that will stop being broken soon anyway as a new set comes out. The soonest there might be any nerf is halfway through set 3, since by then we'll be on normal release schedule.

>>532121594
You cant see it because japanese dont want you to feel bad,you just guess it or use some bitcoinminer tracker

>>532121550
fennie is the only reason you have any winning matchups. show some gratitude.

Post Forest list onegai

>>532121550
if it was Rune, Hoe-chan would have had a evolve effect
too bad!

>>532121375
>Fanfare: Earth Rite - Deal 2 damage to the enemy leader.
>Earth Rite (2): Deal 4 damage instead.
>Earth Rite (3): Deal 6 damage instead.
>>532121457
>Evolve: Earth Rite (2) - Deal 6 damage to the enemy leader.
Holy face damage

>>532121613
She was always supposed to be Artefact support but her conditional was based around Destroyed Allies so Puppets fulfilled her conditional far better

>>532120540
>runebab thinks he's "Playing board and making intelligent decisions" and not just putting square pegs in square holes

i kinda want it...

>got tired of bullying sword with ward
>played portal
>gets paired with a swrodfag playing portal
>this happened
Over-reliance on Orchis makes people stupid. It's good if you're up to a week's worth of Runefags tho.

>>532121550
>"Bro, Fennie is good, you just need to run 3 copies of the AoE brick to reduce her cost, and then highroll multiple Genesis dragons after turn 7!"
I feel like this is one giant psyop, no sane person can actually think the card works.

>>532121083
>>532120625
Aggro abyss

>>532121807
if only Ceres wasnt a complete tempokiller card

>>532121617
aggro is the best use of going second, their games are short and the first to evolve is huge. also the first to Odin/Olivia
otherwise going first is still better

>>532121769
god damn it i watched ryu's 12 hour puppet stream and the conclusion was 'wait for lishenna to save us' and now it turns out she's not even a puppet card
also she's the only attractive omen so i was looking forward to running her for that too

>>532121661
Ah yes which is why almost every nigger in the tournament played a Rune deck. Because it is balanced, just one more good card to everyone else and Rune down to D tier! Stupid cunt.

>>532121735
Many different lists running around. Most have foregone early aggression for more value control cards

Why is para playing pamera? the 2pp gold spell. It seems bad

>>532121891
I'm not saying it's balanced. I'm saying from Cygames's perspective it doesn't make any sense to nerf shit when everyone will bitch about different cards one month from now anyway.

>>532121850
the only reason ramp is tier 2.5 it's because it just can't fucking ramp

Has anyone tried Ramp Dragon with Neptune, that doesn't use Fennie? Does it work?

>>532121850
Ramp is for giga degenerate gamblers that just want the high of dragonsign, liu feng, burnite, chicken into goldennote + double gen

>>532121807
Only the Forte is good
Default Fairy Convocation is cuter and default Ceres has a better evolved art

>>532121887
I mean he is likely right. I CBA to look up Lishenna but look at what she did and you'll see why she's the Saviour of Puppet Decks.
Gonna be hilarious to see enemy scramble to get Black off the board only to open themselves for an Orchid Super.

>>532121980
NTA but no one is bitching about Portal and Haven now.

>>532121617
>sword goes second
>coins princess
>automatically wins game
No lol

>>532121291
yes
concede nono
oz + fire mouse
levi 3 damage to everything

>>532121891
>12 rune
>9 sword
>Sword vs Abyss final
>Abyss wins

Rune is OP!!!!!
Kill all swordtards

>>532121807
Not selling them separately is such a fail. I would have bought that Forte for even 800 crystals, but no way am I paying for 2 cards I will never use just to get Forte

>>532122061
80% of all calls for nerfs in set 1 were about Orchis. Barely anyone remembers she exists by now. This is my point. Nerfing her in set 1 wouldn't have made any sense from Cygames's perspective.

>>532121980
It makes sense. If it was any other deck it would be nerfed but everyone who ever played SV knows Rune is not allowed to be anything even resembling mediocre. The only time it was not top dog was during Wonderland when everyone played the same fucking deck filled with Neutrals.

>>532121418
>turn on stream
>he's in sapphire
oh no no, runebros...

>>532122062
that doesnt matter. sword going second is broken because the first player to zirconia wins.

>>532122180
>Barely anyone remembers she exists by now.
Because they gutted all the puppet cards to punish her

>>532122206
nooooooooooo Rune is the best deck by far please pay no attention that every 2nd matchup in master diamond is Sword

>>532121769
>She was always supposed to be Artefact support
Citation needed, her amulets having the artifact trait never amounted to anything but meme interactions with cannon artifacts in her retrain
Lish decks are 60% puppet cards and 30% her followers/support

>>532121850
you flat out cannot win vs sword or rune without her. if you arent willing to play fennie play a different deck.

>>532122236
>implying the whole game is sword mirror
but true, class is broken, everyone is playing it

>>532122061
>>532122180
Portal is still broken piece of shit and so is orchis

>>532122326
Not a single card got nerfed you lying nigger

>>532122195
See >>532122180

>>532121807
>here's 3 png for $16, bro
why are jap games more jewish than anything

So how is the meta evolving? Is it still worth crafting the big 3 rune Legos from legends rise of has rune being powercrept?

>>532122195
I also remember when every single match was nep shadow mirror

>>532121083
If you're talking about spellboost, aggro abyss is ass. It's why I stopped playing rune and started memeing with other stuff. Every match in rank potato diamond was aggro abyss and I just kept losing regardless of how much heal I had teched in. You just can't outheal it and Odin deletes your single ward and hits face for 6-7.

>>532122396
>playing literally any other card game in 2025

>midrange abyss is... le tier 1
why? what are its good matchups?
>it just is, ok?