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Thanquol soon, friends!

Thanquol soon, friends!

Aislinn confirmed, friends!

thanquol never friends

>>532130875
>black bars on the edge
you failed cathaycuck

40k waiting room

Aislinn will have access to White Arks.

I've a confession to make, bros. I'm for once in a blue moon doing a faggot stack run. Ikit, all (barring 1 engineer) Jezzails. Ambushes in particular are fucked up. Next run will be all unique units (no dupes in army) and perhaps force myself to use allied recruitment, just not sure who to play as for it. Maybe Golgfag and pretend it's DoW.

Where will thanquol fag go when he releases?
To the same place as weg?

>>532131321
trannquol will never be in the game, now matter how hard you tattoo him onto your skin ratfag

>>532131515
thanquolanon always ends his posts with friend, you aren't a real knower of the schizos here

Yeah, Coast treasure hunts suck. I don't know what TCALUK was thinking making them not even worth recruiting a hero and disbanding if you only have to walk 1 turn, let alone if it starts on the other side of the world. The Coves are also trash because the only Coast settlements worth anything are coastal ones, and coves can only be put there, so you either get one or the other, and settlement is always better. It takes like 50 turns for a cove to pay for its cost when Vampire Captain makes it as well , and it will piss off anyone you do it to enough they will send 3 stacks at you the next turn. Vampire Coast is just badly thought out.

>>532131632
I personally hate all "active" faction mechanics
As in, you need to do something, somewhere specifically
Imrik, Wulfrik, VCoast
All come to mind

can't wait until medieval 3 finally puts an end to this warhammer bullshit

Bretonnia rework soon anons!

>>532132192

lmao never

The next Total War game is going to leak before its official reveal.

>>532132192
But anon, this is the >>532131334
Not the med3 waiting room

>>532131354
>Aislinn will have access to White Arks.
*dragonships

>>532132192
>can't wait until medieval 3 finally puts an end to this warhammer bullshit
It won't. Cope, seethe and dilate.

Med2 had best recruitment and replenish system. It actually made sense and forced you to use different units based on what was available, instead of just spamming the best unit you can.

What's the best OST?

>>532133012
Empire: Total War

>>532133012
High Elves > Dark Elves > Kislev

>>532131481
>Ikit, all (barring 1 engineer) Jezzails.
What do you do in a siege?

a bunch of working men following a suicidal maniac into battle

>>532133283
AR like everybody else. Only had to do a turn or two or attrition once.

>>532133398
feet

>>532133398
Why is that Slayer at the back of the army? Shameful display!

Is Kislev worth playing or are they just Empire but worse?

>no autoresolve allowed
Which faction should I play?

>>532133652
kislev has a frontline that lasts more than 5 seconds in combat and that alone makes them better than empiretroons

Play Ikit Claw
Have 1 Ratling Gun
Siege a settlement
Turn off battle timer
Use the 1 Ratling Gun to kill literally everything

Only Eltharion players are permitted to stand by my side. If you know, you know.

>>532133652
Only if you like Bear and Ice.
Empire is a better faction but with worse infantry

>>532133684
Pontus.

I made THE definitive tier list.

>>532133652
Kislev is pretty fun and they do a fair few things better than the Empire:
Strong frontline
Amazing monstrous cavalry (better than Demigrypths)
Cannons that can shoot over your own frontline

>>532133579
he's rearguard, watching for ambushes

>>532133874
Uhhh who's the pontus of WH3?

>>532133914
thumbs up

>>532134039
Pontus.

add pontus to warhammer

>>532134198
Too powerful

>>532134198
too unbalanced
they'd steamroll the entire map in 10 turns, wouldn't even be close

>>532133952
Pretty sure emp art can shoot over your lines. Other than Rocket battery which will just kill your own frontline

>>532131354
Who cares if they still send naval battles to a random land map anyway

>>532134610
The Mortars can but I am unsure about the rest.

>>532131102
Yeah.

to the anon from last thread I decided to play the Ungrim campaign now instead of waiting for the beta, it's been a lot of fun so far but very bloody

I would rather betray the world than have the world betray me.

>>532135595
ywmbcc

>>532135595
*Yuan Shao disliked this*

>>532130540
yesh but if they want it they would just steal it from people who have it. not every faction has to have empire building mechanics. they should rework vampirates so that all your shit is on the ships and the only land settlements you can get are pirate coves.

>>532132623
>warhammer campaigns are shit
No need to state the obvious

>>532133684
N'kari obviously
Its the king of shitty AR and godly manual battles
Good luck in sieges though

Why don't they just make a historical game with magic and monsters in it and have the best of both worlds?

>>532135947
remember how rome had those roman ninja dudes

Is TWW3 freezing up randomly for anyone a lot lately? Never had this issue ever like this.

Randomly the game will lock up, but I can still hear myself fucking around in the background. So far it only happens on the campaign map not in battle.

>>532135947
literally troy

>>532135947
Sounds like the best of one world and the absolute shit franchise ruining worst of the other.

>>532133684
beastmen, for pretty much the same reasons as anon said about slaanesh but beastmen are more or less complete at this point

>>532135947
so, rome 1?

Odysseus’ journey is a testament to humanity’s resilience and ingenuity triumphing over overwhelming supernatural forces. Throughout his voyage, the gods, monsters, and enchantresses represent a world governed by chaos and divine whim, where mortals are insignificant. Yet Odysseus defies this order, not through brute strength, but through human virtues: cunning, endurance, and unwavering resolve.

When faced with Polyphemus, a creature of raw might and divine lineage, Odysseus does not fight as a hero of mythic strength; he triumphs through intellect, blinding the Cyclops with a clever ruse and escaping by wit, not force. Against Circe and Calypso, who wield godlike power to detain him, he resists through loyalty to home and identity, proving that human purpose can outlast immortal temptation. Even Poseidon’s relentless wrath, a divine storm meant to annihilate him, fails to crush Odysseus’ will. Shipwrecked, stripped of all aid, he survives by perseverance and resourcefulness, clinging to life with nothing but mortal tenacity.

Unlike heroes who ascend to divinity, Odysseus remains human, and that is his ultimate victory. His journey affirms that while the supernatural may shape the world, it is human intellect and endurance that ultimately carve a path through it. In Odysseus, Homer exalts a truth: gods may rule the seas, but it is the human spirit that reaches the shore.

tl,dr: play Odysseus

>>532135595
>noooooooooooooooooo that's not properly confucian like my hero liu bei AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>532135595
only a true blackhearted villain would say something like that

Which character is the most good in Total War?

>>532136839
archaon is unironically the most anti-chaos character in the entire setting

Cao Cao was the hero.

>>532136839
Napoleon

>>532136839
Alarielle is pretty much pure good, her touch can remove chaos corruption.

Wyvern Wanker!

>>532136940
No that would be Throgg the bulwark of the norf

One man's Chaos is another man's Order.

>>532136945
He's an anti-hero, ultimately did good but wasn't good himself.

Tell me your five best (not favorite):
Duelist LL's
Infantry Stomper LL's
Caster LL's

Melekh when, bros?

CAO AHMAN!! GRRRRR!!

>>532138110
Wulfrik
Kholek
Kairos

>>532138115
After Neferata.

>>532138110
I'll give you one each because you're a stupid git
>Vlad
>Ku'gath
>Teclis

>>532138110
U'Zhul
Hellebron
Archaon or Be'lakor (generally); or if strictly magic: Kairos

How does Golgfag work with NAPs and then taking a contract with someone who is at war with that faction you have a NAP with?

>>532138110
>duelst LL
Valkia, she is so majestic swooping down from the sky like a maiden of death, with a perfectly timed charge and invulnerability ability and 1v1ing any lord in the game without taking any damage
>infantry stomper LL
usually my least favorite LL type, but Gor-Rok is pretty fun to just stick in and solo the entire army while the rest of his army moves into position or casts spells
>caster LL
Wurzzag, he is also kind of a melee LL but he can spam one of the best crowd clearing spells in the game, and his army is op as well

will they rework Vlad and Isabella? Maybe a when they drop the Neferata DLC?
I hope so

>>532140056
that is such a cute story

>>532140056
I wish I had a girl who waited years to get together with me after sending her a gift one time...

>>532140056
That man's name: Mahatma Gandhi.

>>532140056
>look it up
>original story was published in 2014
>they've had children since
damn
what have anons done since 2014 besides playing Total War?

STOP

>>532141274
The greencard smile...

>>532138110
nkari louen luthor harkon
volkmar anyone with a mortis effect
kairos teclis manlet

>>532141274
fucked up my life I guess

Who prepare a surprise welcome party for their guest after they escape capture?

>>532141274
>he even avoided the hapa curse and had a chad looking baby
How much can one man possibly win...?

>>532140056
I wanted to say cute but I can't condone race mixing.

Sorry, I think you got the

>>532142623
>mediator
lel

>>532135947
>a historical game with magic and monsters in it
Sounds bad ngl.

>>532135947
Dynasty warrior total war

>>532141274
>what have anons done since 2014
wasted my 20s
(You)?

>>532143307
Three Kingdoms: Total Warrior

>>532135947
The key problem isn't genre it's format.
When history fans say they want more historical games, they aren't saying "we want historical settings" they're saying they want games that play like the old Total War games did.
They want games whose map gameplay and mechanics resemble Rome 1, Medieval 2, Shogun 2, Attila or even, bafflingly, Empire.

Warhammer 1 necessarily abstracted and simplified most of the campaign mechanics, streamlining the flow of the game into something that doesn't really require much thinking beyond moving your armies to initiate battles. They made this choice deliberately because the addition of monsters, magic and so much roster variation meant battles became more complex and involved (which is good) and they were afraid a complex campaign and complex battles would result in a combination that's too much overall, especially for non-TW fans coming in because they like Warhammer or fantasy battles and just want to get into the fights.

The problem is that every "Historical" game since WH1 has just worked off its template. That template doesn't work when your battles are just Swordmanii vs Spearmanii x100. The campaign is what makes the simple historical battles interesting, and Warhammer's streamlined campaigns combined with the historical title's grounded battles emphasizes the flaws of both. This is why Troy and Pharaoh both failed, and why 3K floundered as soon as its release hype died down.

The solution isn't just to make historical games play more like Warhammer. But the problem is that modern CA doesn't have anyone left who understands, let alone could recreate, what made the campaign's of old TW games interesting. They treat it like an obstacle, a legacy feature that they're stuck with, rather than a defining characteristic of their games. And because of that. they just don't know how to make a historical game that people will actually like.

>>532144149
>When history fans say they want more historical games, they aren't saying "we want historical settings" they're saying they want games that play like the old Total War games did.

>>532141274
>since 2014
Finished my Bachelor's and Master's, got a full-time job, had two children and got married.

>>532144149
>pharaoh and 3k
>streamlined campaigns
are you genuinely braindead?

>>532144512
Pharaoh is utterly brainless to play and I say that as someone who put nearly 300 hours into it.
>capture settlement
>demolish shitty AI building template
>build all the food income and food % bonus buildings
>never look at the settlement again
>repeat until you have more armies than the rest of the maps' empires combined
There's basically no thought involved in settlement management, most resources except food and bronze become completely obsolete after the first few turns and you can just buy them in vast quantities on the market before then. Rebellions are toothless which makes public order basically irrelevant, but it's trivial to manage anyways. The tech tree just boils down to "find the %-based food/bronze income boosts, click them, and then ignore research for the next 30 turns" and the court system is a pointless roleplaying minigame that has basically no impact on your campaign

probably the only thing that requires some thought is creating super highways with movement boost shrines to give armies effectively infinite movement range--which is admittedly extremely cool, if broken.

>>532145589
yeah anon you're just good at the game and know how to cheese public order by handling rebellions. i can pretty effectively play shogun 2 at this point, i'd still say it's a pretty hard game for most people. most people playing pharaoh are consistently overwhelmed by all the things you have to manage, especially when the starting resource bonuses run out. the ai also does not fuck around and will hammer you at any chance they get with actual stacks and stacks of troops even in the early game. regardless from an objective standpoint it is not a streamlined campaign, it is one of the most complex campaigns in the series.

>>532146121
that's the thing, you don't have "all the things to manage". They're non-issues. Ignorable. Useless.

>>532146225
completely fucking false, were you even around when it first came out here and even people here were getting their asses kicked by the campaign mechanics even on normal? food deficits out the ass? public order compounded by disasters striking? the ai actually sending stacks rather than sitting around passively? getting trolled in the court and losing legitimacy and people complaining? agamemnon seemed to be the only campaign that people seemed to have consistent success in. i don't know what reality you live in

>>532144149
the vast majority of the campaign dumbing down in soihammer was inherited directly from rome 2

>>532146586
>Were you even around when you had to manage income, PO and the enemy, things which are common to every single TW in the history of CA?

>This is somehow "too much to manage"

Point was being made about all the other Pharaoh systems like court, religion, etc, but good job I guess?
Unironically kill yourself.

>>532146121
Streamlined isn't the same as easy, anon.
Shogun 2 can be hard because the resources are sparse and the AI shits out large stacks, usually with credible unit compositions, and throws them at you. Your economy is heavily dependent on trade but the AI hates you and trade can be easily disrupted with navy, causing sudden bankruptcies that are hard to see coming and expensive to defend against.

These things all make Shogun 2 hard. You often need to win many (relatively) difficult battles before your economy can snowball. But in practice there's little terrain to move through because the map is a narrow tube with two lanes separated by a line of impassable mountains. There are very few economic structures worth investing in, not many mechanics that matter, public order that's generally toothless and easy to game, a 'wealth growth' mechanic carried over from Empire/Napoleon that literally doesn't matter and really nothing else to think about.

The learning curve of Shogun 2 is learning that it's more cost effective to buy armies and steal infrastructure in conquest than to build it yourself. Once you realize that conquest is self-sustaining your basic plan is set and doesn't vary much.

Shogun 2 has a relatively simple campaign, especially compared to its direct predecessors Empire and Napoleon. But Shogun 2 is also a lot harder than Empire.

The same is true of Pharaoh. It can be difficult, but none of its difficulty comes from mechanics that are difficult to master or strategic decisionmaking that's complex or challenging. You quickly realize most of the minigames bolted onto its core gameplay loop either don't matter at all or have one simple obvious choice to make and don't require much thinking. The core gameplay loop is "increase food income, raise armies, fight" and the difficulty just comes from facing difficult real time battles at a point in the campaign when you can't afford a lot of powerful armies yet.

>>532146868
all those were not being engaged with which is why they kept failing. religion, outposts and ancient legacies are entirely to the player's benefit to handle the issues players kept encountering. i also specifically mentioned the court in my reply you dumb fuck. you've played the series for hundreds of hours like a lot of us and can play every game in the series on autopilot, this is not a reflection of how the average person experiences the games. regardless your point is just flat out wrong because people who were used to warhammer in this thread went into pharaoh and didn't know what to do with the mechanics which means it is objectively not streamlined.

>>532146595
Public order being kill is mostly a warhammer thing though
All changes in rome 2 and warhammer could be boiled to
>players dont want bumpers to their battle dopamine rush
Which, judging by how beloved warhammer is by secondaries, was true

>>532147343
>Play WH, have to manage income, PO, the enemy and faction mechanics
>Go into pharaoh, cannot manage income, PO, the enemy and faction mechanics
>This is a problem with the game and not the player, somehow

Dig deeper, candyassgot

>>532146595
Warhammer removed weather, night battles, encampment battles, politics, culture, food, naval battles, battle maps based on the campaign map terrain, and formations and only added some of these back with certain factions and called it a feature. Plus some more things I'm probably forgetting. Rome 2 was dumbed down but Warhammer absolutely took it much further.

>>532147628
where exactly do you get the impression that i'm saying that retard players not being able to handle non-streamlined mechanics is a fault with the game? pharaoh has a popup whenever you start a faction telling you how to play the game. i am simply saying the game is most certainly not streamlined in the way warhammer is.

Who has the easiest campaign in all of Total War?

>>532135698
Anyone else actually just really like plain white rice? I love rice in all it's forms, I can even be ok with just eating a bunch of white rice.

>>532147447
Warhammer's approach to the campaign isn't inherently bad. Anybody that's played old TW games probably remembers the lategame burnout where there gets to be so many things to do in a turn that it just gets annoying wading through all the campaign shit to get to your next battle, or to reach the point where you can finally end turn and advance time towards your long-term goal.

Warhammer is about the battles. The battles are good, and there's clearly a lot of effort and creativity that went into all the units and spells and abilities and variety of interactions there.

But old TW games were the opposite: battles were simple and the campaign was more complex. And a lot of people liked that. Complex campaign and complex battles means the two systems get in the way of each other and you get bogged down in one on your way to the other. Simple campaigns and simple battles mean neither is interesting or satisfying. Old games were usually Complex campaigns and simple battles, while WH is simple campaigns and complex battles. Both are valid, but different people prefer each.

The problem is that since the success of Warhammer, CA has seemingly forgot how to make complex campaigns at all, and each attempt has boiled down to just taking Warhammer's simple campaign and trying to tack on tertiary mechanics that just reward you with small % number bonuses and can be either solved or ignored. But while magic and a wide variety of unit types make warhammer combat inherently complex, historical combat is necessarily limited to a smaller variety of units and abilities and is always simpler in practice. And the combination of simple battles and simple campaigns just make for something that isn't stimulating or satisfying to anyone.

>>532148123
skulltaker, but basically all horde campaigns in general

>>532148304
it's great but it isn't a full meal
goes great with all kinds of protein tho

>>532148123
Any of the horde campaigns, really
>no territory to defend
>no real objectives to pursue
>no economy to develop
>you build up one army until it's unbeatable
>then you build up a second army to reinforce the first
>now the AI will never offer you pitched battle and will let you sack or raze its settlements for free
They are basically idiot proof. Your armies always start stronger than the settled factions so you can just autoresolve early battles and it only takes a couple turns to become literally unloseable

>>532148123
Iolaos

>>532144314
>had two children
What are their traits?

>>532147447
in pre rome 2 games public order management was balanced around using garrison troops to keep things under control. you either had to execute the populace which had penalties, or leave part of your army behind to babysit. removing leaderless armies completely gutted the mechanic because now there's no dimension to it beyond pushing the public order button.

>>532147331
maybe I was playing wrong but most captured settlements in shogun 2 were totally worthless. some even had negative value since you would have to turn taxation off and pay upkeep on a garrison to keep them from rebelling. even after like 60 turns my most valuable provinces were the ones I had since the beginning of the game. income buildings were basically nothing and the vast majority of a province's value were from the wealth growth mechanic that you discounted.

>>532148414
I don't think any campaign post-Shogun 2 could remotely be considered complex and if you're looking at the campaigns from the perspective of even the most basic grand strategy game none of the games are complex on the campaign layer. Even when I was younger the only thought I ever remember putting into something like the Julii campaign is what I'd want each city to focus on and whether to ignore the senate missions or not.

>>532148123
Any nation with spears in Rome 1
Rome in Rome 2
Khorne

I have never, ever, ever played Beastmen before.

I want to fix that.
Does anyone have a QRD or a "what's the best LL to start with"?

I'm an Empire/Khorne man, if it helps.

>>532149042
Disciplined

>>532149268
Khazrak or Taurox
Nobody plays Malagor or Morghur

>>532149268
All of them play similar
The DLC one is the strongest

They should put Cylostra at Noctilus place and move him (with the Maelstrom) somewhere else.
Feels odd to spend half your campaign conquering Ulthuan as him

>>532149682
aww

>>532144149
>This is why Troy and Pharaoh both failed
never played troy so i cant say how the resources were there but in pharaoh the resources make the campaign map gameplay infinitely more interesting than "build money building" retardation
>why 3K floundered as soon as its release hype died down
this game has the best campaign map gameplay out of any total war

>>532149713
>Nobody plays Malagor or Morghur
What? They're the coolest beastmen LL

>>532148123
Festus. The Empire has no answer to Chaos Warriors of Nurgle in the early game.

>>532150214
>fit and obviously making decent money
>childhood friend wife who he is still happily married to
>multiple children
malding

My Spearmen have 50 melee defence and 70 leadership.
Your Spearmen have 34 melee defence and 60 leadership.

>>532150803
Mine are cheaper and numerous. For 1 of your spearman I would be fielding 3. You are out number and out maneuvered.

>>532150803
My spearmen have bound spell wind of death (5 uses)

>>532149713
idiot retard, malagor is my go-to beastmen ll

>>532135947
>magic and monsters in it and have the best of both worlds
magic and monsters are the worst of the worst though

>>532151761
You are literallt subhuman tho so you dont count

>>532149713
>Nobody plays Malagor or Morghur
Tell me you're a shitter without telling me you're a shitter.

>>532150803
Spearmen are like the bottom of the barrel of units. Literally nobody cares about them.

>>532151950
>literallt

So why don't Dorfs use.
Halberds they aren't spears and look alot like axes

>>532152583
It'd be an admission that they NEED the reach.

>>532149181
The most objectively complex TW campaigns are Attila, Empire and R:BI. Most pre-Shogun 2 campaigns are complex enough for that complexity to be a benefit. Shogun 2's relative simplicity is an outlier but makes sense as a creative choice given the way the game plays in practice. Rome 2 is the black sheep, though as someone already said, it would ultimately become the model that Warhammer worked off of.

Are the Rome 2 DLC campaigns complex?

Why is there STILL no randomly spawning Demon Armies in areas without corruption, similar to Savage Orcs or Brayherds? Even a 1% chance would be fine, or make the chance to spawn depend on how strong the WoM are when they change in an area.

Dumb.

>>532151782
Oh yeah let's just have a bunch of guys poking each other with sticks because liking boring things means you're smart.

>>532153265
No not very
Empire Divided is probably more conplex since it introduces a bunch of minor mechanics like banditry

>>532154041
I like warhams but I feel compelled to post a soi face at you!

>>532150803
My army consists of nothing but heroes and missile units.

Lower your tone while speaking to me.

>>532154041
spectacle retards like you are why this game series went more and more braindead over the years
holy shit dude the big monster man hit the other big monster man heckin cool bros

what are you, as a noble agent of chaos or destruction, doing to dismantle the malevolent and inevitable ordertide?

>>532155225
sack then raze

>>532148414
if soihammer is about the battles how come people constantly abuse autoresolve to not have to play them?

Ooh what's this now?

>>532155603
not for neurotypicals

>>532155603
What knowledge does a book made by the blood crazed battletard contain?

>>532155225
>a noble agent of chaos

>>532152862
The same arguments you make against Pharaoh and other modern games could apply to Attila. Build the objectively good food buildings that won't be affected by the climate change mechanic, almost always fisheries, make sure you have sanitation and remove the churches at the beginning of the campaign and there's not much to deal with outside of the battles. The other half of the difficulty in that game is just the AI blatantly and overtly cheating. I think you have a heavily out of touch view of what is "complex" and what isn't.

>>532155808
>>532155684
lets find out, hope it doesn't ruin my Thorek campaign

>>532155863
entropy is the truest and most honest expression of freedom and there is nothing more noble than freedom

>>532155961
It sounds like you've never played Attila and just read a WRE guide without context at some point.

>>532155808
True names of all notable Khorne's daemons. Big Daddy wrote these himself.

>>532155423
Honestly I think people who play WH3 and spam autoresolve must have the 'tism. There's basically nothing going on with the campaign map so if you're just map painting and skipping battles you're basically choosing to play the worst map-painter on the market because it's familiar, and your brain disease forces to you obsessively pursue familiarity or else you'll have a meltdown and hurl feces at traffic.

The plot thickens...

>>532156359
I have played Attila and the WRE campaign specifically multiple times. I'm not going to get into how the early game can be decently reliably cheesed by just funneling your enemies into minor settlement battles, I'm specifically talking about how the campaign layer has just as many objectively "easy" paths you can take to make most mechanics a non-issue. And then I'd outright hesitate to call some mechanics like making your troops worse with certain tech and locking certain buildings that make your campaign less of a chore "complexity" at all. Campaigns like the Sassanids are even easier and more simple because climate change is less of an issue and camel farms are an even better source of food.

>>532149713
Morghur is my favourite and most played Beastgger. I like that he's kinda under the radar and is arguably the most Chaos-themed. I like that he focuses on Spawn too.

>>532138110
Skultaker is the best duelist by a mile once you fill out his skills and skull cloak
Tamurkhan is an infantry lawnmower on his toad dragon, and he has regen and a mortis engine because fuck you.
Caster is Kairos, he can get max spell intensity and has access to several lores.

>>532157618
Are chaos spawn still complete dogshit or did they get buffed?

>>532157618
Those ones are particularly fucked up

Nurgle lord that looks like picrel when?

>>532157767
Major The Thing vibes. I want to take a flamethrower to it.

>>532157715
I think Morghur makes them into equal to Minotaurs

Crazy how raw a deal this guy got, Bastiladons suck so much ass

>>532158653
they all look like that you monkey

>>532155423
Easy, I can waste 40min fighting a battle where I will take minimal casualties and completely delete enemy army, or I can lower battle difficulty to easy, autoresolve with acceptable results, bump it back up and continue my campaign all in less than 2min.
In my last campaign of 2024 I fought manually every single battle, that campaign took me three and half months, in my first campaign of 2025 I was abusing autoresolve and was done in 6h, I honestly can't tell which one was more fun, the only fun battles were the ones I would lose in autoresolve anyway.
This wasn't an issue in old TWs where you had to retrain your units for replenishment, back then everyone fought battles manually to avoid casualties, it's one of examples where qol create cascade effect that ruin other things.

waiting for beastmen to get moonclaw LL

>>532158681
Or
https://youtu.be/Wcbn7t2AxlI?t=22

When is WH getting a new fat fuck LL riding a mobility scooter?

did they change the auto-resolve values? feels like pulling teeth now

>>532158904
>autoreplenishment so ridiculous that all casualties are erased in a single turn
>upkeep designed around limiting you to 1-2 stacks for as long as possible, and the campaign immediately breaking once you can afford a 3rd
I feel that these things are related and collectively ruin the formula.

>>532157684
Why'd he cut a hole in a watermelon like that? Is he a stupid barbarian or something? You should make slices.

>>532159116
Hopefully never
Greasus' model has been shit forever to the point where it's preferable to use one of the modded reskins where he's stood up

>>532159116
they already have kugath and dwarfs

Make a good fun skaven video game.: So Total War warhammers and vermintide had made the skaven relatively well known to the video game Community with how popular these games are but let's make a game specifically for one of the race in the fantasy setting skaven . instead of trying to do another tactical game which I think the warhammers franchises have enough of we generic ones and unless you can come up with something uniquely skaven fun about it let's make a hypothetical outline of what you can do with a video game with skaven protagonist from their exaggerated backstabbing and the four Great Clans with them being funny evil rattman .


>>>/v/716074183

why dont skaven have crossbow units?

>>532159424
Fuck off ratfag

Haish, bok bok Ptra chok tok ash Djaf

>>532159558
too weak to reload the strings

>>532155423
Because they are niggers. Why even bother playing the game if you do not want to fight any kinds of battles after 40 turns?

>>532159943
this is a retarded take and you need to stub your toe today

>>532159961
Because they are true cheaters, green autoresolve is a cheat.

>>532159941
why's he doing the söyface

>>532160195
That's what skeletons do

>>532160445
hmm... okay..

>mobile M2 receives updates and fixes
>PC is stuck in stone age
Ffs just remaster the game already

>>532160135
no he's right, rats are pathetic losers and it's been statistically confirmed that their fans are too

>>532160689
We have to wait for december first.

>>532160195
Because he's impressed for the first time

>>532160135
I thought it was a good take from that anon. Besides, why use crossbows if you have machine guns?

Guessing AI can't into Dawi Deeps?

>>532160689
They probably already are

>tfw we should unironically be expecting the dlc trailer tomorrow and a release in like 2 weeks
>but now its like 3 months away
>hey they at least added the ‘no ass ladders mod’, some number tweaks and bugfixes as a beta patch in a few days
>oh btw they originally pinned the slanny dlc to come out over a year ago, on a revised roadmap because they couldn’t get anything straight, let alone timely
Just a reminder you can never hate CA enough.

so, Azhag has been raiding my borders this whole campaign from an unkown location after I pushed him out of the mountains, turns out he migrated to deep into the empire.

>>532161764
shut up faggot

which LL am i?

>>532162242
me

>>532162242
golgFAG

>>532162079
Yikes, nice "strategy" game totaltards

>>532155808
Secret records of every time Khorne let Slaanesh (futa) have sex with him.

>>532162387
shut up luthor harkon

they need to optimize the game down to 40gbs

>>532162242
Grom

>>532162242
>i
Cringe

The news?

>>532163049
you're a clamoring monkey?

>>532163049
you're so god-damn annoying

>>532163049
It's over

>>532163049
Last dlc next year LMAO

>>532163049
nasty little maggot

>>532163049
people like you are nothing but poison to the UK

The pivot was too strong

>>532163049
we should cut off your hands

kairos long dicks meow in her dragon form

>>532164598
kairoscels pls

>>532159116
>Greasus
>Ku'gath
>Epidemius
>Grom

Anyone else?
Honestly surprising Throt or Cylostra didn't get a scooter at this point.

>>532159317
I actually don't mind Greasus' mobility scooter but he isn't half as fat as he should be
It just looks like they stuck a gunt on a lanklet (for an ogre)

>get ambushed
>I'm a ligger
>I have cold ones and saurus

Who are you gonna play for the siege beta?
Was planning epidemius, but I’ve somewhat lost compulsion for nurgle as of late.

>>532165904
which ligger LL am i

>>532166001
Have they fully detailed what's changing besides the removal of ass ladders?

>>532166001
I've got a pretty fun batch of cheats going, so I won't be playing the beta. Might download the no assladders cheat, though.

>>532166176
*mods

more of you should be unemployed

>>532166067
>ass ladders gone
>less manpower required to build equipment (i would suspect a ram and 1x towers in 1 turn)
>lower initial defense attrition that scales as the siege prolongs (no numbers known)
>gates more health/resistance to non siege attacker units
>wall towers shorter range but more damage
>ai tweaks
>pathfinding fixes? (I think, or am i coping?)
>slightly changed maps for emp skaven and gs
I actually don’t expect to feel a huge difference on the campaign level
>>532166176
Do tell

>>532154137
>>532154716
You're seething yet my point remains unrefuted.

>>532155423
Challenging battles are fun, if a battle can be autoresolved with few enough losses to be replenished before the next one it wouldn't have been worth fighting manually.

>>532166720
Soi soi soi soi soi
boy boy boy boy
There

SKAVEN LOVE!!!
https://youtu.be/VjWzKD3iu3E

>>532166467
i already am faggot

>>532162242
YE KNOW WHO I AM

>>532167134
whats your fav LL and/or faction

>>532166467
in one month I'm quitting

>>532167060
love rats :)

>>532160689
I would rather they don't touch med2 on pc. Unless they make a remaster.
It would break all the mods

Post cute /twg/ art!

>>532167245
the best one

>>532167375
It's not like the old version of the game will disappear

odds
luthor
evens
noctilus

total war is a game for jobless people
Contributing members of society don't have time for this shit

>>532133012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UApsdueSYQ0

>>532167831
for me its bird of time

>>532133012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gcdy-lxqi50

>>532158904
what if I told you that people without brainrot fight battles manually because they are fun, not to minmax k/d ratios so you can speedrun your map painting? no wonder this thread hates multiplayer. the idea of playing battles for the sake of playing battles is completely alien to them.

>>532159256
forced generals and its consequences

>>532166467
Hell no I wouldn't have doubled my money on BAE if I was unemployed

>>532167742
It's not Tarkov you can't fall behind grinding neets

Can Scotland recruit gunpowder infantry at all in Stainless Steel? In the campaign, I mean. I see they have calivermen but I haven't been able to recruit them yet. Other factions have handgunners, I can built ribaults + mortars. Is there still an event coming up, or is there a difference between MP/SP recruitment?

>>532168828
scots and irish dont deserve to have their own countries

>>532158904
>or I can lower battle difficulty to easy, autoresolve with acceptable results, bump it back up and continue my campaign all in less than 2min.
Ew brother, eww
This game is only played FOR the battles, it's the worst 4X game out there otherwise

>>532158904
Guantanamo could not get this out of me holy shit

>>532168282
>what if I told you that people without brainrot fight battles manually because they are fun
I literally said in that post that most battles aren't fun because there are no stakes to them, you might as well alt forward your army and the results difference will disappear the next turn thanks to insane replenish rate.

>be dorfs
>exploring up north finally
>elspeth went and took over all of Ungrims and Thorgrims territory
so you have chosen... death

...

>>532170987
you're about to learn why you dont fuck w the dawi ligger.

>>532170987
He comes

>>532171374
what the fuck would she tell people if she ever made it back to ulthuan, how do you explain that shit to the everqueen

>pirate wh3 on linux
>finally figure out all the anti piracy measures
>set clock to 2019, turn off internet, run from start.sh 2 folders deep, remove the tutorial checkbox
>upon exiting a battle it still crashes with signal 6
Sigh... Back to WH2 it is... Sell me on the lizardmen. I've only played Oxyoti which is kind of a meme.

>>532172371
they dont wear clothes; even the beastmen wear clothes.

>>532171102
chok tok BOK BOK

>>532172371
slapping down rats with saurus is a good time for everyone

>>532172371
>on linux

>>532173067
verbiage like that is why liggers give people the ick

>>532172561
Clothes are a spook invented by chubby dicklet lords/kings

>>532171558
I wanted to fuck the blue haired chick so bad when I was a kid

tcaluk's community managers are shameless
is everyone in the tcaluk working on hyenas 2

>>532174170
no you didnt

>>532173207
Can you find a cracked wh3 copy for windows? Yeah neither can I.

>>532174281
A good delayed DLC > a bad rushed DLC

why do I always get some dark pit when I'm defending but this is what the ai gets

>>532174293
damn you got me

>>532177583
I was about to say that you are playing Kairos but Teclis looks to be level 31. Anyways, Kairos always has to deal with being on that side of the map when he inevitably invades Teclis' starting location.

>>532177583
because you are evil.

>>532133684
Khorne

>>532176380
HYENAKLAEG SOP
HATE
HATYE
HAYTAAAAEYYE

>>532179319
Meds now

>>532164083
>thinks I'm anywhere near there
ROTFLMAO

Video blog was due in late June...
Video blog was moved to July...
Video blog is delayed until August...
Video blog will arrive within September.

>>532179552
NO FUCK YOU BITCH

>get bored of a campaign even before reaching short victory conditions
what is the cure?

>>532180308
Keep playing. Game gets boring around turn 30 but gets really fun after turn 50.

>>532174281
I wouldn't have that much of an issue with delays, but this whole situation makes me wonder if they really care about the game that much. How did they managed to pump out DLCs during the WH2 cycle so fast but now it seems like that art is long lost and they need an entire year for three LLs and some units? I mean I can understand that a 3 LL DLC is harder to make, but it really is that much harder compared to a 2 LL DLC? What are they really doing there that they're taking like double or even triple the time that they used to? It doesn't make any sense, even if you factor that DLCs are bigger now.

next guy who posts plays elspeth

>>532180308
Eventually you just snap at never seeing tier 5 and barely seeing tier 4 units, and you stubbornly stay in a campaign
I think I just made a tier 5 for the first time this year

>>532181067
I am playing an Elspeth campaign at this very moment.

>>532181424
lets see it

I didn't have the courage to film myself slamming my testicles in a mailbox for you guys, would you accept clan eshin campaignposting as a substitute?

I am playing a ur mom campaign at this very moment.

>>532180584
Still working on hyenas

>>532182631
no, but you still have to post the campaign

>>532180584
>Downscaled DLCs from 1 faction 4 LLs to 1 faction 3 LLs with chorfs
>Since then again to only 3 LLs no faction
>"I understand a 3 LL DLC is harder to make compared to a 2 LL DLC"
>"DLCs are bigger now"

Slippery slope is real and you redditniggers lap it all up

>>532181824
I intend to take the Greenskin fort to the south and then the full might of Nuln shall rain down upon Sylvania.

>>532183657
dont dally too long... arbaal is coming.

>>532183750
Lots of threats to deal with before we see Arbaal. The objective after Vlad will be to ensure that Drycha, Festus and Skrag all become target practice.

>>532148304
I do but I also like to splash in a bit of flavor, either with onions sauce
>inb4 onions
And/or any other flavoring from meat, its a nice contrast and is satisfying

>>532182943
hey wait a minute clan Eshin is kinda fun

It turns out that Grave Guard are actually kind of tough.

>>532185187
Of course it is.

>>532185187
Rats are fun

>>532185325
too bad the whole battle strategy of VC hates any infantry that is not some worthless zombies or skeles
they are the only faction still living in WH2.

>>532167742
i still enjoyed total war when i was employed, but i feel like the game is at its best when you can sink hundreds of hours into it

Ind when, saars?

>>532185432
>>532185380
I've assumed they were powercrept to death for years desu

>>532133012
rats

>>532142530
this artist is so obviously into guro

>>532185432
>>532185380
Before I try, is Snikch a good lord sniper?

>>532185891
guro and lolis

>>532185937
He's one of the best duelists in the game

>>532185937
yes, unless they are huge in which you will need some assassin heroes to help him

>>532186068
For real? Why does /twg/ never bring him up?
Does anyone in general have any tips for Eshin? I'm gonna try and take over those remote islands between Ku'Gath and the southernmost continent and run my schemes from there

>>532185730
just play nurgle

>>532185937
Yes but you have to be a bit cautious. Snikch is a glass cannon, good MD means he won't fold to any but the strongest melee lords, but he still has almost no armor and relatively low health. He'll take care of just about any lord or LL you point him at but if he gets caught out it's gonna be painful. Obviously if you send him against a caster or support hero or even just a non-fully combat oriented hybrid character, he'll delete them extremely easily and lose almost no if any health so he can go for the next one.

Also do be careful with the Cathay dragons, they do push him around and that's a problem. Kind of a shame Snikch doesn't have some unique animations where he climbs on them to stab-stab, both for the cool factor and to make their duels less awkward.

>>532186152
I was fawning over them a few threads ago.

>>532172371
>sell me on...
you wouldn't get it

>>532186152
Also
>Does anyone in general have any tips for Eshin?
Right at the start of the game, recruit two Master Assassin lords then disband them. You can use them for schemes, and since they're not already active campaign participants, you lose nothing for having them there. Also Eshin magic is tragically dogshit, a warlock engineer with his passive buffs will do more for your gutter runners.

>>532185891
He's Korean

yyaaaaarrrrghhh

>>532186152
You can never have too many gutter runners, also get a lot of assassin lords to use for schemes

bros I'm horny tell me what the inside of valkia's pussy feels like

>>532186389
>>532186596
Thank you, I'll give it a try. I may as well restart anyway because I can't seem to crack the Dimmed Sunz fort. I'd love to play as those guys too though

>>532186959
jagged teeth and dry leather

>>532186959
Vagina Dentata
What a horrible phrase
Vagina Dentata
It'll leave more than a graze

bros I'm horny tell me what the pits on greasus smell like

>>532187236
No one has survived to describe it.

>>532185730
Naga Sadhus would fit into the Warhammer theme really well.

>>532187441
these people have got to go

>>532187507
The EIC tried their best to shoot them all.

>Play Taurox like thread advised
>Pretty fun mulching with minotaurs
>Get to Karond Kar
>Besiege
>Lord goes to sea
>Take the city, raze
>Lord lands and recolonizes next turn
>Besiege
>Lord goes to sea
>Take the city, raze
>Lord lands and recolonizes
>Besiege
>Lord takes to sea

IT'S BEEN SEVEN TURNS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>532187441
Too bad jeets are too smelly and touchy about their heritage.
They had a lot of stuff that would be fun to Warhammerize.

>>532167375
When/if the game gets an update, those mods suddenly become cheats, sweetie.

>>532188251
I'm steam an idea from anon past but imagine if Araby was like the Kushan Empire from Berserk, if we ignore world and lore differences you could put Kushan 1:1 into warhammer, censor it a bit, and it would be a perfect Araby faction in-game

>elephants in Medieval 2 and 3K
>tanky as fuck
>elephants in Attila
>fall over and die
What went so wrong

>>532188618
Because in Attila, javelins have anti-large damage like they should.

>>532188618
"What went so wrong":
Climate change
Splitting the empire into two
The Roman army being reliant on immigrants
Attila ravaging significant amount of Roman land

Whens the siege update dropping?

>>532133012
Kislev>Vampire Counts>Dark Elves>Liggers and Welves> everyone else
But WH's OST is low tier for the series

>>532189221
CA is just waiting for you to recruit an army of 19 necrofex colossuses in penance for your sins, only then will they release the update

Also fuck man, its crazy how Attila does the Warriors of Chaos endgame much, much bettet than WH2 did or any endgame in WH3. The game using the book of Revelations as its centerpiece is amazing, every chapter shift gived you the sense that the end is coming. Then Attila becomes of age and all hell breaks loose, this is what the ancient Romans must have felt as they saw the Huns rape and pillage everything in their path.

>>532155423
something something players optimizing the fun out of the game

Can I shill my mod here?

what faction should i play with if i hate the finicky bullshit of wireless devices

>>532191393
wurzagg

mannfred is based.

>>532192062
He really is. Lifeleeching passive + Mastery of the Dark Arts + Sword that gives Winds of Magic = insane Lore of Vampire spellcaster.
A true 10/10 Legendary Lord.

>>532191358
only if it's good

if mods are cheats then how come you're a faggot

>>532192448
Maybe he will receive an update alongside Neferata's DLC. Mannfred is the only Legendary Lord without a unique skill line.

>>532192270
i dont mind that he's bald i just wish he had more of a warrior knight look, like arm covering and a tabbard

>>532192270
>haha guys infinite magic is so rare haha XDDDxx he is such a unique lord no one else can do that
have you ever played vampire counts?
or any magic using race?

>>532192476
I-i dont know
:(

>>532192986
what is your mod, cuck?

>>532192062
I just hate that the "switch lores" button is so small and there isn't a keybind for it, if a game 2 DLC lord played like that it would've been patched in a week. I do enjoy his campaign, although Kemmler is more fun, Ghorst is broken strong, and Izzy lets you get a vampire stack up extremely early, at least he has the fun of fighting Skarbrand, Queek, and Kroq-gar early but not too early.

>>532192587
Mannfred is also the only Legendary Lord with two full magic lores

>>532190051
Technically things like this would be better left for end times dlc

>>532193263
also spell lore keybinds are way too inconvenient to actually use
it's why i use the pause button to go through spells and look for the right one at times

>>532192482
It is Caledor who is the faggot! Burn the world! Avenge the beard! Khazooook!

>>532191358
Yes. We support our modders here. Post it.

>>532192619
He's not a warrior though

>>532131867
I think the idea of these should always be to move you around the map
like giving your campaign a direction for expansion

unfortunately spending a turn doing nothing but moving feels bad after playing IE campaigns normally

>>532194743
he is? you stupid faggot? dumb cunt.

potty mouth potty mouth

i am belakor

>>532196838
ZOOLA...oh, wait, you're the guy who gets killed by rocks

>>532197017
everyone can be killed by rocks

I am Zheng Jiang...

Phew, took me long enough to get here. Now what?

>>532197847
I would rather betray the world than have the world betray me...

>>532197847
who cares... its all bullshit anyway... nothing fucking matters...

>>532197925
>>532197948
huh

>>532197847
yarrr me ratty, sail the 7 seas, sack the ports of the lubbers and sell them for obscene amounts of money, me hearty

>>532198065
im a hollow man, i am a lost man.

>>532197847
Enjoy the endless free lizard stacks shipped express from Sudan (You lucky duck)

>>532197461
not rouge idols, you cant kill a rock with a rock

>>532198365
>>532198097
you know what's funny is I only just noticed this island chain is unpleasant climate lol

fuck my life!

>>532197847
Get to max scheme and delete liggers

i need to kill the world and then myself

Miao Ying is coming to eat YOU.
How do you defend yourself?

>>532198808
My name is Kong Rong and I don't approve

i want to cut open my own face

>>532198808
Finally, death. Go ahead Miao.

>Slaanesh can only seduce human and elves
???????????????????????????????????????

>>532198808
I fall over because large entities can't hit small entities that are laying down.

>>532198808
Get vored

>>532199271
there's a mod that can make them seduce anyone

>>532199271
Skaven are known for unshakable willpower and resolute antimaterialism.

idk what it is with these ogres but even 20:20, slightly boosted hobgoblin infantry murder their elite units by the score. Must be their lacking armor values.

>>532199834
Ogres are unrivaled at eating shit from even the lowliest of ranged units.

Going from playing the Dwarfs to playing the Greenskins is insane whiplash, it’s like going back to playing WH1. I know Dwarfs are one of the more feature complete races but after three DLCs and two reworks, the Greenies just feel kinda bad. Their tech tree is miserable, their economy is terrible and they just feel boring outside of battles. Half of the scrap upgrades are locked behind later tech and you don’t get enough to use it in the early game anyway. Plus their replenishment is so slow it’s quicker just to merge and re-recruit units which means you lose the scrap you’ve invested. Wurrzag’s new start position is ok until you run into Birdman who just fucks your shit up, which to be fair is not unique to the Wurrzag

>>532200330
dick in your mouth, bitch

>>532198808
Why would I? Being eaten by Miao Ying is an honor for any lowly mortal.

>>532200527
Sorry?

>>532169248
>no stakes to them
you literally don't understand. you are incapable of seeing battles as anything but a means to affect the campaign map. high replenishment is a good thing because it means you can fully use your army in every battle instead of having to cheese like a little bitch to minimize casualties.

Planning a new pirtae playthrough. Thinking about making this one crusade themed. A Coomer Crusade. Not sure what my playstyle or objectives will be this time. Figuring I'll ally with the brets for the crusader theme.

>>532201264
you need to be punched in the back of the head

>>532201264
Make an ally with rats playthrough

>>532201264
what can you do to make them coomer themed besides just recruiting female lords?
also, i have erectile dysfunction due to medication side effects and it makes me horny because all I can do is edge all the time except for when the stars align
i humbly ask for the source or the uncensored version, good sir

I enjoy ixti grubs and the ruination of cities BOK BOK

Is there a mod that turns the Daemons of Chaos Lord into a female demon?

>>532201195
But if you aren't incentivized to minimize casualties then what are you incentivized to do? Winning by bodythrowing is dull and easy. Minimizing casualties is the only thing that actually makes you play better and engage more meaningfully with the game instead of just statchecking the enemy army.

Some of the best experiences in older TW games is being placed in the situation of Napoleon's campaign in north-east france and needing a single army to defeat multiple opposing armies in short order, ensuring that you minimize casualties in each battle to preserve strength for the next. It's a novel challenge that demands forethought. You're not just thinking about the present battle that's playing out, but the next one that will be fought after. Instances like that are when the strategic-realtime combination is working best.

Instant replenishment, especially post-battle, takes most of the consequences out of battles. Suddenly all that matters is the absolute outcome of the battle, the win or the loss. How the battle is fought and the price of victory becomes irrelevant, which undermines the entire premise of the real time and strategic layers being linked and intimately affecting one another.

>>532202106
did you draw this yourself, loser?

>>532201264
ally with the lizards for the better crusade theme
she has scales, she can pass

maybe you guys aren't seething enough in your day to day life

>kroxigors have a deathroll vore animation
CUTE

I love Bretonnia even if they never get an update I'll still love them :)

>>532201504
I need to be repeatedly punched in the prostate my an amazonian body builder

>>532201747
Never.

>>532201878
I'm thinking of recruiting only the greasiest, crustiest units. My entire legion will be nothing but T1 peasants and pirates lead by dommy mommy lords and heros.

Yea, this is prob gonna be it.

Pic rel. I hope you enjoy it as I shall enjoy my ban.

>>532202569
Impossible. They have like -200 aversion.

>>532160689
I dont even care about a remaster fix the bugs give modern controls and camera and thats it game's graphics still hold up extremely well

>>532204169
Oh hey it's Undyne.

>>532204448
ermmm redditor detected!

>>532204583
Oh shit where?

>>532132623
I like replenishment outside of having to manually do it but I loved kingdom's recruitment system as it was an elegant solution to spamming units. You can in theory with enough buildings and provinces to produce the unit or enough time but it's more efficient to have a mixed army and have fun

>play a couple turns that go badly
>I HAVE SEEN THE INFINITE WAYS
>load save
Loreful!

>>532205450
the ai already knows how you moved before they start their turn, why shouldnt you

after all is said and done does the last khornate kill himself?

>>532205712
there is never a last khornate
there are infinite khornates in infinite dimensions
he'd just get sucked into the warp

I think I'm a Dark Elf...

>>532206445
you're too fat, ugly, and stupid to be a dark elf; however it is because of those qualities that cause you to be drawn to them.

>>532206445
DAHK
BLADE!

>>532206601
I'm Morathi irl

>>532206885
lets see some proof

i'm a Bloated Corpse (alive)

Would VCounts be a good faction if they had combined the entirety of the VCoast for VC to use

>>532204169
people who post pictures that make my weeny hard why they do this

>>532206885
>/me puts my penis in your pussy, doggystyle

>>532207643
No and that's a stupid idea

>>532198808
These are my bodyguards from the upcoming game.

>>532208018
it was censored, not even porn
beahead all mods

>>532203035
Imaging being eaten alive by a kroxigor, your life amounting to little more than a meal for a barely sentient beast

>>532208918
I'm willing to bet Miao Ying would fuck a space muhrine up

The only thing being nice has ever gotten me was getting raped

>>532209064
Don't bet anything you can't afford to lose then.

>>532208984
>it was censored

>>532201878
There is a way to cum without an erection :3

>>532209575
Mods lost haha

>>532209575
Don't desecrate Kinkymation art like that bro...

Wtf is up with Arkhan the Blacks quest battle? It pops up so early on his campaign but its against a shitton of Skaven, I waited until I could recruit Necrosphinx's and it still felt tough, is this intended?

>>532209575
>>532209952
I just saw kinkymation for the first time on a collab, is she like a newgrounds artist or something? this picture is hot minus the elephant in the room

>be raaroo bull
>fucking some edgyptian skellies
>suddenly malecuck declares war
>ok
>next turn there's 3 armies in front of my bull
>all of them in forced march
>have max ambush from blue + tech
>ambush every single one of them
>get enough momentum to move north and assault one of malekek's settlement with one of his armies inside
>still have some momentum left to kill a fifth army and then put a herdstone in one of his settlement, all of this in one turn
>at the start of the turn he was like rank 5, now he's 40+
RAAAAROOOOO.

>>532210745
Porn artist that draws wholesome vanilla sex that's also enough of a madwoman and/or autist to actually come up with an entire fucking alternate AU of Pokemon where she (and I think a couple helpers) designs monstergirl versions of every single Pokemon complete with pokedex-like entries of their new lore and she's already about to finish gen 2. Draws a lot of different franchises, though I don't think she's touched Warhammer, much less anything historical.

Also she seems to be a streamer at times, though I haven't checked that out as much.

>>532211273
I don't care about this.

>>532211273
she sounds great, perfect, and sexy, and she was wholesome and lewd at the same time during the collab so that checks out
the collab was with a vtuber, and kinky said something about a debut soon so I don't know if that means she will be a vtuber or what, I didn't look into it

Gonna try the siege rework as nurgle in Realms of Chaos

WHO THE FUCK IS TOD AND WHY DOES BORIS BRING HIM

>>532213404
He's probably a real cool guy that has made some amazing games that everyone should play.

Crazy that GW had the prescience to base the skaven on israel

>>532213886
>Karak Eight Peaks is Palestine

>>532202258
>But if you aren't incentivized to minimize casualties then what are you incentivized to do?
I don't know maybe fucking have fun with the hundreds of fantasy units? build diverse army compositions. challenge yourself to win without doomstacking or corner cheating. the campaign map is just there so you can roleplay instead of having to sit there in the skirmish vs ai menu and come up with army compositions on the spot.

>Suddenly all that matters is the absolute outcome of the battle, the win or the loss.
the best battles are the ones where you barely manage to win by rallying a handful of units to beat the enemy's equally fucked up army. your campaign brainrot is stealing the fun of playing them from you because you either avoid them for being "campaign ending" or you cheese them by ai abusing or corner cheating so you can reduce casualties.

>>532157715
All Spawn got buffed in the latest patch (the one that updated the stats of many units), and Morghur in particular buffs them quite a bit. Also like all monstrous infantry they work much better if they are amongst regular sized troops (e.g. Gors), so the two units overlap. I learned this with Spawn and Forsaken; the two together, then started applying the same principle to other factions.

Which is the best Skaven LL?

>>532215954
They are all good at different things and strong in different ways, metafags will tell you that skryre is the best though

God I love the Slaanesh campaign...

If theyre really doing single LL DLCs then I expect a bare minimum of 1 LL, 1 LH where applicable, 1 Generic Lord or Hero, and at least 3-4 units, an example:
>Boris Todbringer (LL)
>Emil Valgeir (LH)
>Wolf Priest (Hero)
>Wolf-kin, Knights of the White Wolf, Teutogen Guard (units)
This is like bare minimum CA should add, lazy fucks cant even release more than 1 DLC per year

SOOOFARAHYOOO!

It's not going well

>>532215954
Ikit if you want engineering
Throt if you want biology
Skrolk if you want virology
Snikch if you want ninjutsulogy
Queek if you want environmental science (with an emphasis on population metrics)
Tretch if you want psychology (you hate yourself)

>>532218885
VGH.... SOVL....

>>532217440
Nah, Tretchfags are more metafags than anyone else surprisingly enough
>0 redeeming qualities or interesting characteristics for his faction because hes a literal nobody
>"but hes all about betraying people and getting heccin' stronger!"
>literally every fucking Skaven does this lorewise
>the cope pivots to explaining how good devastating flanker and his Stormvermin buffs are
Ikit might be metafag shit too but at least you can say hes unique, unlike Tretch

its actually not that hard to imagine thanquol getting added eventually desu

>>532218885
What are you doing, anon?

>>532220293
Losing

>knights that are normally on horseback
>but now theyre dismounted and are properly made into a melee unit! :O

>>532220879
You thinks that's cool? Check THIS out!

>>532220879
Nobody understands what you're talking about.

Blessed be that the ambush worked, was only at 50% chance.

>>532222582
I swear Ironhide's colour changes with every screenshot sometimes he's light green sometimes he's dark green

>>532222582
Waaagh, Mr. Ironhide.
>>532222760
Greenskins or at least Orcs in warhammer darken with strength/size right? He should be rather dark if so.

>>532222840
no, normal orcs arent suppose to that dark, thats why grimgor is a weirdo

Be'lakor is a fun campaign

update to my campaign

i pushed the egyptians back a little in greece, the city of Ratiaria has been relieved and several battles fought by Bylazora
a naval blockade has been formed around crete
2 legions landed in egypt and took alexandria and cyrene fighting off attacks by 3 egyptian armies

>>532223383
What mod is this?

Chorfs are so fucking strong holy shit.

Why is Morathi so fucking weak in the campaign?

>>532224365
She's solid, arguably the strongest Dookie (?) currently in TW3. Post your army and campaign map, anon.

>>532224365
Every time I play she and Malekith are often the strongest faction

bwos...

>>532224365
because you arent using heroes for some reason

>>532223920

its just RTR1.9

Has anyone else played sisters and noticed a weird bug where fighting the skaven armies that show up in the witchwood when you do the ritual of rebirth causes you to automatically declare war on clan moulder for some reason

>>532226536
plapping this poster raroo

>>532226536
I noticed a weird bug where my elves have sex with the rats but not that. I do hate that when events happen that makes treaties nulls you get hit with a diplo penalty and I have no idea why that's never fixed. I guess to prevent players from gaming events with advanced knowledge but it feels bad when you don't know

>>532171558
Cute! Post more fren

>>532172371
have you tried not being poor

>>532227856
good goy financing Hyenas, showing those rich b*stards!

Man I love this game so much.

>>532228087
yeah I totally financed hyenah by being a key for 3 while pirating every dlc

why chorf and not charf

>>532228182
well yea since key was purchased from them you did finance it but since you're an esl no wonder you don't get it.

>>532228182
you were a key? thank you for your service

>>532228291
Because dorf

Greenskin armies with lots of trolls are fun

>>532224365
Morathi fucks and kills entire armies with her goon squad.

Just had a random thought. Tzeentch armies always lose against Khorne armies, no? Khorne can stack that 90% magic resistance and Tzeentch jobs hard in the melee. Like.. what are they gonna do against a few heroes and tons of exalted bloodletter.

>>532231931
Tzeentch have something more powerful than regeneration. They have barrier and the ability to rotate units in and out.

>>532226536
It's their dlc story in wh2

How long does the charge bonus actually last? I've seen people say anywhere between 10–30 seconds (probably includes the other titles). I was hovering over my Gryphon Legion and the charging status disappeared after like 5 seconds so I couldn't gauge it that way

>>532232080
Dunno for sure but in my experience keeping them fighting for ~10 seconds or more is a waste of time and hp so something less than that.

>>532232000
Mm.. you are thinking cycle charging. Well since they are slow af that only works with non infantry. And.. khorne lords and heroes and their cav are faster and way deadlier I believe.

I'm pretty sure Khorne takes the cav win here.
Slaanesh not included cause they don't get high tier cav, lamau.

What is a fun short campaign that you can do it in a day?

>>532234270
Any Khorne
Golgfag
Ostankya

BOY I LOVE TRYING TO FIGHT DWARF CUNTS SO MUCH!
1 PROVINCE AND THEY HAVE 2 AND A HALF STACKS! WITH LIKE 10+ HAMMERERS! NOT EVEN THAT FAR INTO THE CAMPAIGN YET!

>>532234363
thx will try Khorne.

>>532197847
This part of the map is the biggest waste of space in the game.
You have to sail for 4 or 5 turns to reach it (meanwhile you only have to sail 1 turn from Bretonnia or Arnheim to Ulthuan).
The big island is only1 settlement (meanwhile the smaller Albion have 3 settlements on it)

>>532233885
WRONG. Tzeentch wins because cycle charged flying cavalry is the most powerful thing in the game.

>>532235626
toilet seat of High Elves

>>532235920
You can't cycle charge those, they get stuck and obliterated.

>>532235920
unless you're the ai which is able to spam 500 orders per second your guys will get stuck and mauled

>>532232080
15

>Kairos
Why should I exchange lore of tzeentch spells for anything other than heal spell and net spell?

>>532234617
Now try fighting Umgrin and his endless stacks of slayers
Just pray he doesn't win against Vlad or you'll get to fight him every single turn

>>532235626
You better get used to it because aislinn will start there
But dont worry, they will add currents to teleport you around the world

>>532237650
>going against change
I AM SHAKING MY HEAD RIGHT NOW

WHERE'S KRELL

>>532238871
EVEN KRELL WILL BE IMPRESSED

>>532237650
direct dmg spells like the miasma one from grey magic melts everything at 180% intensity. Same for the big ones like fate of buyna. Glean magic is great too to siphon even more winds. Fuck... now I wann a play kairos but hate his starting position...

>>532239196
ogres my lord

Enabling minor factions is probably the best idea of all times. Creates such a mess in the map especially with the book of nagash armies

Sacrifices to Mathlann

>>532239336
>Enabling minor factions
What's that?

>>532239914
>an army of kids roam the map.

It's in the campaign setting in the same menu of endgame crisis. Instead of telling factions without an LL to stand and wait for their death they are allowed to also fight for expansion. Meaning sometimes a small faction like the yellow dawis in the TK desert can grab a shit ton of lands

>>532239336
I wish we could get a slider to adjust how much "potential" cheats AI factions could get, or better yet make it autoadjust during the whole campaign. Like bigger cheats at turn 50+ or something

Fuck me bretonnia is kinda lame

>>532240383
can't you change the stat modifiers midgame? In the game setting on the map?

>>532240449
churl hands typed this

>noooo not a fun cavalry
>nooooo not a good economy

>>532240460
Those are stat bonuses. I meant stuff like cheat gold, recruitment slots, agression, etc.

>>532132623
I agree
I also really miss the semi-random trait system for generals/family members, it made for some incredibly fun narratives. Like the shitty king I sent on a crusade with a bunch of mercs and sub-par leftover units to retake Jerusalem hoping he'd both improve relations with the church, and get himself killed. Instead he took every city along the North African coast, and spent nearly 25 years fighting to take and hold the Holy Land against a never-ending stream of various factions, becoming a hardened, battle-scarred veteran who both inspired and terrified his men.
The only real improvement TW has made since Med2 is that you no longer have to deal with micro-managing diplomats.

I razed that town for the eagle.

>>532240383
They should definitely add the AI cheat ramp up option from Stellaris

>>532238174
I'm totally fine with Aislinn starting here, but i wish they do somethign more intersting wit the landmass.

>>532240021
But they don't have legendary heroes

I am once again starting the Karl Fanz campaign

I am starting a Kong Rong campaign and going through the multiverse to gank the Karl Franz player

>>532242231
Fuck yeah

>>532242231
HOT!

W-Well... I'm starting another Alarielle campaign...

Me? I'm playing Grom and rolling around with a stack of trolls.
Most fun I've had in a while.

For me, it's Greasus and Golgfag.

My challenge?

>>532243247
Deniable... until DLC drops

>>532243247
lemme fink about it

My army? 12 heroes and 8 ranged nits

>>532243247
Deniable
>Clicks away
>Refuses to engage
>Flees

>>532227248
ha ha imagine an elf maiden, on a soft bed covered in fine silks, raising her legs to willingly let a snickering ratman plow into her

nobody has played khorne or beastmen more than once

>>532243716
>got ya on same turn again
now what?

>>532214165
>stop thinking and play in the sandbox!
The game literally has a skirmish mode to cater to retards like you. Take it and stay the fuck out of my campaign.

My deniability? Unchallengeable!

>>532227248
>>532243765
skaven do not fuck anything other than broodmothers
and even then, like 90% of skaven society doesn't fuck at all

I am a Dark Elf Dreadlord whose Loyalty went down because I win too hard without you

How do I know if my faction is being seduced by Slaneesh?

LL:Ghark Ironskin
LH: Braugh Slavelord
Units: Ironskin Ironguts, Ironskin Rhinox and Ironskin Leadbelchers
>B-but these are all reskins
Yes, and?

why are peasant archers bretonnias best unit

why wont CA depict at all the sheer amount of rape that has to go on when an elf city gets conquered?

a whole city of otherworldly beauties, maintaining their purity for decades and trained in arts and learned in the skills of courtship and curtsy. any army from any non elven faction would simply not be able to control themselves - they would be raping every delicate elven pussy for weeks on end

CA should have it so your army gets a permanent morale buff for this would result in the army being stuck in the city for at least three turns to ensure every elf princess is passed from your officers all the way down to your basic infantry

I can't wait until the next Empire DLC. Us frontline enjoyers will finally have a chance to win without cheats.

Glory to Assyria and its people, for I am their savior.

>>532244459
Why do you think Beastmen, Slaneesh and Dark Elves get a leadership bonus?

>>532233885
Skullcrushers are worse than what their stats represent, and Heartseekers are better than all of these shitters due to their speed and damage output.

What's the deal with YouTubers?

Take a look at this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUSrPW97YqU

My guy says that Zhatan the Black is trash because he's a bit overcosted in MP... and then proceeds to claim that sky lanterns are merely "meh." My man is actually claiming that fucking *sky lanterns* are better units than Zhatan and calls them "sniper units" while a video plays of THREE sky lanterns taking three-and-a-half minutes to focus fire a mostly stationary Throgg with the help of a lord. Sky lanterns are the worst units in the game hands down, and I don't see why anyone thinks they're even remotely good. Grail Reliquaes are unironically better than sky lanterns. Just a little while ago, they were saying that Moon Birds were the worst unit in the game! Moon Birds! And just because they couldn't do much damage. My brothers in Christ, at least moon birds can fucking tank instead of sit in the air and do fucking nothing all battle before getting obliterated by tier 0 archers.

>>532231931
Changebringer & doomknight kite
https://youtu.be/L30xF8yhKbo?feature=shared

I'm honestly surprised how many factions want to play Diplomacy with the Ogres considering they eat everyone

>>532244906
vro... delete this
why are you showing off my gameplay...
i kno im bad...

>>532244801
There is no reason to take Zhatan when Sorceror prophets and Astragoth exist.
Lanterns are flying missle units, they are free damage and free harmony against factions with bad shooting.

>>532245127
They're the truest neutral faction in the setting. They'll deal with pretty much everyone.

>>532244459
Are there mods for this?

Aislinn waiting room.

>>532245234
That just makes Zhatan obsolete, not shit.

>free damage
Except they don't do any damage.

>free harmony
This might have been a point with old battle harmony, but new nerfed battle harmony just isn't good enough to lug around a unit that only gives harmony.

>>532188098
How to speedrun a long victory

You will never look like an Elf.

>>532245795
No but I do look like a Slann.

>>532244548
Son of a goddess and a king

>>532244459
You dumb nigger
Fimir got their backstory deleted and nuGW wont even NAME Araby in the Bretonnian Old World book.
And you ask this dumbass question?
Dumb nigger

>>532245795
Why would I want to look like an elf when I could look like this?

What you think you would be: A Chosen Warrior of the Dark Gods.
What you would actually be: A Bretonnian Peasant.

who's the strongest waifu right now? morathi? isabella? twins?

>see neutral but friendly LL far away from me go from strength ranking 7 to 114 in one turn
Guess that's to be expected when you get waaagh'd by two greenskin factions (one being an LL too).

>>532246484
I would be Morathi IRL

>>532244459
>Chaos (slaanesh) projection: The Post
Some of us have standards

>playing as Cylostra
>controlling region around Hexoatl/Skeggi/Pahuax
>also western Ulthuan and Lothern
>Grom controls the eastern half of Ulthuan
>Malekith controls almost all of Naggaroth
>My 2 armies are around Floating Pyramid dealing with Itza's invasion
>Grom the Paunch and Malekith declare war on same turn

>>532243921
i called Andy Hall and he said the rats fucked your mother

>>532246816
>playing as Cylostra
Fake Post

>>532244548
>his faction has 'Ass' in the name

God 40k better be early next year or I'm going to be completely out of good WH3 campaigns to play.

I understand spellcasters now...

>>532243921
>skaven do not fuck anything other than broodmothers
Skaven are either incels or plapjaks.

>>532247540
>40k
hate to break it to you bro, but it won't happen
they'll announce Medieval 3 later this year

>>532248230
every single influential streamer and content creator says that 40k is coming next year

not a single person is saying med 3 is in development

>>532248230
if they want to go bankrupt yeah LMAO

>40k total war
>but muh streamers said so
lol you retards aren't even old enough to remember empires release

>>532248445
>influential streamer and content creator
you mean the same lying bottomfeeder who lied and 'leaked' the omens of destruction dlc was going to be 4 grand cathay lords according to a 'source' (he made it the fuck up for views and engagement)?

>>532248445
do you have the tism bro?

https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/text/every%20single%20influential%20streamer%20and%20content%20creator/

>>532249049
Leering Devil Ogres status?

>>532247169
>m-muh map!
Meanwhile

>>532249482
>>532246173
>falling in my trap
:)

>>532247015
women would literally fuck a skaven before a dwarf

where did it all go wrong, beardlets?

>>532249568
I am destroyed...

>>532246502
Kroq-Gar obviously

>>532130657 (OP)
Quick questions for a noob in tww3 but have played total war before
>how important is fatigue? Should I be walking my troops everywhere?
>where to put points on the generic melee heroes like empire captains? Melee defense? Armor?
And, most importantly:
>should I go for the grand campaign with all 3 games together or play the main campaign of TWW3?

>>532249568
my moonie can't believe this

>>532250250
fatigue barely matters
melee defense is great since surviving longer lets them facetank for your ranged
play immortal empires the other campaign is horrible (inb4 resident apologist appears to defend it)

>>532250250
>fatigue
Important to know it lowers stats and makes things vulnerable. Fighting in forced march is a disadvantage and can fuck you over if forces are matched in strenght.
>points
md/ma, resistances, speed if you can, then ws and armor
>campaign
Play tutorial, unironically. It's fun for noobs. RoC is dogshit but you should play it at least once I guess to understand why peaple say it is so. After that IE all the time (or modded maps IEE or OW).

>>532250250
The wiki claims these are the effects of fatigue but I havent confirmed this, so it might be outdated.
The Chaos Realms campaign is generally not considered very good.

>>532250250
Fatigue matters but drains incredibly fast in combat, perfect vigor is good, walking is a waste of time, if possible make the enemy come to you.
Red line army buffs.
Try both but immortal empires has become the main mode.

>>532250506
Kys

>>532250968
>heroes
>red line buffs

>>532251060
seethe

>Want to play WoC/Chaos in general
>Always end up Chosen of Khornemaxxing both shields and dual weapons with 3 Halberds of Tzeentch for anti-large

Cures for this?

>>532251525
You have to play Tzeentch to fix it

>>532250250
Fatigue is important, but not enough to prioritise it particularly unless the speed difference from tiredness makes or breaks a battle coming up.

Campaign movement>Regeneration>Ward Save>physical resist>MD>health>MA>WS>Armour is a good rule of thumb for skills points.

Missile resist, spell resist, speed all bump up or down depending on the enemy you face.

This doesn't include faction wide buffs, incredible abilities etc that some LLs get. This is for just your generic fighting heroes.

>>532251320
I'm here to post, not to read.

>>532250250
>should I go for the grand campaign with all 3 games together or play the main campaign of TWW3?
Play Vortex campaign only if you like narrative campaigns.

>>532130657 (OP)
>Tides of Torment delayed
How much longer?

>>532250728
>>532250839
>>532250897
>>532250968
Thanks for the info. I did vaguely remember melee defense being good, nice to know I as right.

You may want to get armour if its low. I wouldn't neglect it if you expect that character to be hit a lot and theirs is low.

>>532188396
Uummm sweaty cheats aren't mods

>>532252537
There's too much armorpiercing in the game for armor to be a viable stat

>>532252970
The game is infested with copious amounts of anti-large and yet we all use a lot of mounts and large entities.

>>532252392
October/November.

what is it with tw games based on east asian settings that always seem to yield the best UIs? And why does WH's look so fucking terrible? Shit looks like a moba UI, but not even ine of the good ones, more like one of those knockoff bottom feeder mobas

If Kislev has a unit called "Little Grom" then doesn't that imply...

>>532250250
>>how important is fatigue? Should I be walking my troops everywhere?
It's pretty important, at higher levels of fatigue it impacts your stats pretty hard. Don't let an enemy catch you in force march.
>>where to put points on the generic melee heroes like empire captains? Melee defense? Armor?
Don't use Empire Captains in battle. They're not very good compared to equivalents in other factions (like the dwarf thane) or other hero options for the Empire (wizards, warrior priests, and engineers). I'm not even a minmaxxing metafag but Empire Captains are just terrible.