Thread 532206869

Welcome to the Sonic the Hedgehog General. Here we discuss ALL things Sonic!

/sthg/ #8468 - Tenrec Edition

==NEWS==
>TailsTube #12 - Life Hacks
https://www.youtu.be/R3WmM7nVq_I

>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Animation Teaser
https://youtu.be/qFDJ6zMyq-k

>Sonic Racing - Cross the Worlds - (Opening ver.) - Performed by James Bourne of Busted
https://youtu.be/OR9FGj1Bj70

>Sonic Rumble global launch delayed:
https://sonicrumble.com/GLDelay

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 will be released on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

==Comics Release Dates==
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog #5 - 23 July 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #80 - 30 July 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #81 - 03 September 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary Special - 24 September 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 04 Mar 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>/sthg/ OP template:
https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://grabber.zone

>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ OC info:
https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
>/sthg/ cytube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Previous Thread: >>532165786

Douge

All drawfags are brainrot and unemployed.

Tails!

>>532207039
but I have a job

>>532207039
I earned $200 today drawing blaze’s asshole

*mwah*

How is your evening/night so far, /sthg/?
Any cool sonic fangames that are out recently so I can look them up?

Sonamy is good when you don't have someone yelling in your ear about how it sucks.

>>532207280
This shit looks like an Infinity explanation meme

Amy is the only girl hedgehog that needs breeding

>>532207039
>all drawfags are brainrot
what does that even mean

Sonic characters for this feel?

>>532206869 (OP)
I just realized that Chroniclesfag had Gold and Surge share a POW Move.
https://files.catbox.moe/o1s9vr.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/5590lh.mp4

>>532207039
I'm just better than you.

>>532207657
He's ESL, please understand.

>>532207031
no wonder Eggman is obsessed

Ah yes, once again, dead thread thanks to ocfaggotry and drawfaggotry. As always.

Mario bro here. They just finally announced who's Princess Peach VA, which is Courtney Lin. She's known for Fire Emblem(Yikes), Hoyoverse gachas(Extra yikes), and anime garbage like Panty and Stocking.
I'm fucking depressed about this and I want to know how you guys managed to get through something similar when the 2000s 4kids VAs got replaced with the Studiopolis voice cast in the 2010s.

>>532208662
>and anime garbage like Panty and Stocking
what's wrong with panty and stocking

>>532208662
>>532203889

>>532208662
VA for what? A new mario game?

I wish Tails Napalm bombs were referenced in some way, is such a random thing for him to have

>>532208662
>Courtney Lin
looked her up on btva and the only character I recognize is Penny from Pokemon

>>532208825
>Penny from Pokemon
Ew.

>>532208809
Starting with Mario wonder Mario's voice got changed. And everyone got recast in Mario Kart World. For a short while /v/ was making fun of the new Mario calling him a nepo baby or something and making fun of his voice crack during the Nintendo Direct

Would you eat this ass?

>>532208973
double points if Miles did it in Etch-A-Sketch

>>532208973
Tails would be one of the last people to ship sonadow

>>532207712
He gave Gold Surges tail

>>532209135
I know Eggman would

>>532208824
He has a bunch of cool stuff that should come back if sega actually remembered or gave a shit

if Shadow so polite why does he calls Tails "Tails" and not "Mr. Prower"

>>532207712
>Gold in distress
>Surge enjoying herself

>>532209135
I would consider it.

>>532209684
He is Miles Prower, but everyone calls him "Tails"

>>532209684
You don’t call a kid Mr

I love Fang!!!!!

Shadow calls characters by their names. He says Eggman and he says The Doctor

>>532209857
Cream does (Shadow is younger than Cream btw)

>>532209857
Tails has technically lived longer than Shadow, since Shadow was in the tube for 50 years and was only conscious on the ARK for a few years.

if so polite, why does Shadow call Maria "Maria" and not "Ms. Maria?"

you can't tell me Eggman doesn't want to shove his tongue down Sonic's throat

rate my taste /sthg/

>>532210564
Certainly the list of all time

>>532210692
>>532210901
>chatgpt

>>532210564
I mean, is lukewarm, nothing too crazy here to me but I assume a lot of people would disagree with some placements.
Also how do you even rate Generations and Sonic gen x Shadow? It's basically the same game but with a shadow dlc. I assume is lower because of the censorship?

>>532210924
my bed buddy

>>532210564
>Forces anywhere above trash

>>532211176
Sonic Generations and Shadow Generations are two different games. Sonic x Shadow Generations is a collection consisting of two games.

>>532211264
That looks like Elias.

>>532211221
How is Forces trash?

Odds, make pasta
Evens, go to the gym

>>532210140
Slightly related but Shadow uses "kimi" for Maria in Japanese. It's a term for "you", a second-person pronoun. It's used by men to their girlfriends or close friends/family with each other.

>>532211630
fatty

Maybe Sonic Underground is good

>>532211630
Rerollin'

>>532211734
Only in my tummy area...

>>532211816
why are people suddenly interested in obscure characters from Sonic Underground?

>>532211902
Official Sonic media is so boring that going back to look at older things is more interesting

>>532211902
I haven't seen the show at all I just like boobs

>westshit
>interesting

>>532211807
Amyfags will never beat the besties allegations

>How is Forces trash?
Imagine actually asking this. We need to kill all Moderntards. The world will be a better place without limp-wristed slop-consuming troglodytes ruining our franchise and breathing our air.

>>532211902
Obscure characters are interesting because we don't know anything about them. At this point I've heard every last detail about Tails and Silver against my will.

>>532212205
calm down

>>532212205
https://youtu.be/0xdepIrAcRc?si=kswdyowVyQ4ZY_CS

Sage feet

>>532211867
lazy fatty
>>532211902
those aren't people
>>532212076
this is your fault sweetie
>>532212135
the shit i took this morning is more interesting than sonic underground
>>532212267
dude it's interesting because it's obscure i clapped i;m clapping so hard right now

>>532212419
>Eggdad
Kys

>>532212468
>lazy fatty
FINE, I'll make pasta after the gym... Stop bullying me... :(

>>532212107
all the character designs in Sonic Underground were atrocious with the exception of character designs that were variations of Sonic himself

>>532212205
Sonic Forces is a Classic Sonic game.

>>532211105
I did not realize this. I found it from another social media site.

Isn't Sonic targeted at western audiences?

>>532212807
It's complicated

If you didn’t play forces inbetween beating mania and mania encore then you didn’t beat mania and you missed one third of the story

>>532210564
If you posted this back in the late 2000s or the 2010s, people would say that you had great taste.
Nowadays? You would be mocked, insulted, and laughed at since it's very clear you're a classic fan(Who are mostly despised in the community nowadays).

>>532212945
You're assuming people even played either of those games for more than 10 minutes

>>532212945
The story isn't even over with that because we don't know what the fuck happened to Infinite

>>532211649
Interesting

>>532212419
I always love new official sage art, is so cute

>>532212517
nta but I want Sonic to make Eggman a father

>>532212205
based based based
>>532212415
not watching that
>>532212419
>predditor filename
>>532212690
haul ass fat obese fatty fuck
>>532212807
isn't sonic targeted at 8 year olds

>>532213217
i love pear shaped amy so fucking much

>>532212945
Playing... video games?

>>532213549
>isn't sonic targeted at 8 year olds
It is targeted primarily to children but old fans are in second place. Although it doesn't feel that way.

>>532212945
who cares it's not that deep
>>532213217
she is 12
>>532213254
sonic and (you) raped his bussy until it bled
>>532213525
what the fuck is wrong with you degenerate
>>532213834
aislop

>>532212945
Any story that has Forces’ garbage in it is not a story worth reading into

>>532213943
Here, for you, you could learn a thing or two.

Tails!! ^-^ <3

>>532212945
>the story
who cares?

>>532212415
>thumbnail is Tails saying Forces is good like it didn’t shit all over his character
You expect me to watch an hour of this? FOH

>>532214240
>fleetway

>>532214143
I am thankful that I wasn't here when this annoying spam happened

>>532214450
Weak.

Sonadow is the best ship simply because it is the one that makes my cock the hardest

>>532214143
not reading all that
>>532214198
she is 12
>>532214201
kill yourself
>>532214271
tails was always useless let's be real
>>532214680
what did being raped by your uncle feel like

>>532213943
it turns me on

Amy’s canon age ranges from 18 to 18 but pregnant with sonic’s baby

>>532214772
Tails! <3

>>532214772
You must be 18 to post here

>>532214637
Shut up, LC

BODYSNATCHERnic...

Reading MegaMan Archie and I'm noticing a lot of similarities between how Ian writes Dr Light and IDW Sonic as characters

>>532214796
>>>/trash/
>>532214930
kill yourself
>>532214972
this edit is ass
>>532215015
you know the animators jacked off to ths
>>532215069
>nickyshit

Boylove general

>>532212517
He can be Egghitler dad

>>532215246
it's lovely...

>>532212419
I'm gonna laugh so hard when Sage is forgotten about 2 games from now

>>532215069
Nicky is actually the original personality but in every universe the sonic persona takes over way too early, the manga is the only world where nicky is strong enough to grow and actually fight back against sonic

>>532214772
Here's my last (you) since I think you are amusing

>>532215108
What, the fact they have humanized Sally Acorn as one half of a buddy cop pair didn't tip you off?

Responding to the obvious troll and calling him a namefag from years ago only validates his retardation. Don't enable somebody who's clearly suffering from a disability, anons.

>>532212807
You know the rules pal.

It's just me or 4chan is kinda slow right now?

>>532215547
She was too hot for me to pay attention

>>532215108
It’s not really like how Ian writes either is particularly unique.

>another worthless degenerate thread
Yeah no I’m out

>>532215547
She was too hot for me to pay attention

>>532215792
Hey hey hey! Nice drawing! I like the line work
>>532215870
It's acting up for me too

>>532215921
It can't be THAT bad

How difficult can it be to hire another team of sonic fans and make another game like mania, not mania 2 but just better than superstars, there’s like a gorillion autist making fan games i bet they can make at least 1 team and 2 back up teams in case the first leaves

>>532215921
>another worthless degenerate thread
Yeah, it's the 8468th in a row.

rouge outfit inspired by a milkshake i drank today

>>532216097
Kill yourself

>>532215420
>>>/trash/
>>532215453
she is 12
>>532215108
wow simply marvelous sweetie did you have any sonic the hedgehog video game related things to share
>>532215921
where can i subscribe to your blog faggot
>>532215956
you need to stop spamming worthless posts it clogs up the thread

>>532216097
Generate more bred Rouge, I demand more

>>532216168
This guy's fun at parties.

>>532215870
it's because nobody wants to talk to you
>>532215956
i just threw up in my mouth
>>532216020
sonic team is lazy more at 11
>>532216097
radical blog where can i subscribe faggot
>>532216272
don't reply to me pedophile scum

>>532216209
Same to you >>532216143

>>532216339
just for you charming dude <3

uuuuu rape is hot uuuuu

I just love seeing Sonic in sexual situations with other men. It's sooo HOT. Sonic was born to be a yaoi star

>>532216020
Sonic Team hates the feeling of humiliation when random gaijin get more acclaim than them. They mistreat the ones they work with like Taxman's team to vent their frustration.

>>532216020
>Need skilled workers
>Need skilled workers that can work to a deadline
>Need skilled workers that can work to a deadline and can work with others
>Need skilled workers that can work to a deadline and can work with others and without disappearing overnight
>How difficult can it be to put together a team to finish a game
Very difficult

>>532216938
>without disappearing overnight
Has that happened to Sega?

>>532216424
ugly art
>>532216497
rape is natural and beautiful
>>532216514
faggot
>>532216819
nice headcanon
>>532216938
it would help if they weren't sonic fans

ALL HAIL SONADOW
FUJOS RISE AGAIN

top tier

>Post 1000 Sonegg/Sonknuckles images
>crickets
>Post 3 images of a ship with legitimacy
>NOOOO STOP SPAMMING NOOOO

>>532217813
Don't drag sonknuxbros into this

>>532217813
Only the hetships feel the need to fight about which is better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGNjzAAI8Gk
say her name like you have romantic sex with her

>>532217813
I just insta filter the yaoi ships. These guys straight up aren't worth talking to since they're practically image bots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGNjzAAI8Gk
>say her name like you're having romantic sex with her

What are they saying to each other?

>>532217813
what i do

We back?

>>532216143
never gonna happen but also what's your fucking problem

>>532218928
No, now go back to sleep.

Goodnight, /sthg/!! Take care and I hope 4chan is okay by now. Take it easy and rest well!!

>>532219008
You and the other talentless aicucks

>>532219315
nta please post your art then

>>532216209
tost

>>532219448
I don't draw

Sonic autism mixed with ai retardation is something to behold sometimes

>>532213627
>>532213943
Out of 10!

Did 4chan die? I thought my internet was shitting the bed.
>>532218193
>>532218375
Man I'm sorry, but I will never understand Shadria haters. He loves her so much.

>>532219815
ty

Bun!

Yuuta is COOL!!

>>532220190
Shadicks is underrated.

>>532220374
Why is he so fat?

>>532217941
That would be true except people also sperg out about sonadow

>>532220667
>anon is so fat he doesn't know what baggy clothing looks like because all of his clothes are tight on him

>>532220194
I don't mean that in a good way you ai tard

>captcha:WDAD
that's what I want Sonic to make Eggman into

>>532219639
Are you taking requests anon?

Sonic

>>532220942
ok

>>532218471
>>532218751
Is that a picture of you, Anon? Screaming at Flynn?

>>532220883
But why is he so fat?

>>532220883
Nta but whatever the manga artist is trying to do with Yuuta just makes him look fat

sexy rat

>>532221893
Yeah he dresses like a fat wigger from the 00's. Just needs a backwards ballcap.

>>532220792
>women like men who would kill to defend them

>>532222820
ok eggman

Reminder: This is what would happen to you if Sonic were real.

>>532206869 (OP)
Shadow's own female Tenrec when?

>>532223947
You'll only get stuck by their quills if they feel they're in danger. Sonic is fearless, so his quills won't hurt you.

>>532215908
Ian writes like an AI. Just an algorithm of words and text. No deeper meaning.

>>532224296
no, AI would improve Flynn's writing if he uses it and uses it correctly

Maybe Sonic shouldn't be fearless.

>>532224119
You made me want to post that one piece of fanart with Maria & Human Amy sharing their pet hedgys (realistic Shadow & Sonic respectively) but I can't find it.

>>532224420
Should we test this hypothesis out?

>>532224119
No Shadow is fearless

>>532224894
idk which infamous Flynn Sonic passage do you suggest fixing first

>The Mario series has the voice actor of Vegeta now
>Meanwhile the Sonic series still has dogshit voice actors from the 2010s
If Sega was actually smart, they would immediately get rid all the 2010s voice actors and replace them with the ones from DBZ. Sean Schemmel would be a fantastic Sonic.

>>532225557
>voice actor of Vegeta
Chris Sabat or one of the older dubs? Also Gohan is the voice of Big/Dodon pa

Rouge's melons

>>532225846
Are for shadow

Give me your best reason for why this has not happened yet.

Both franchises are notorious for massive amounts of licensed slop and a heavy quantity over quality feel. Relying on essentially the quality of the flagship product to give it any integrity.

>>532225557
Sean was already Black Doom

>>532226009
Goodbye forever

>>532215420
>>532215552
>>532215956
>>532216335
>>532216424
>>532216705
>>532216950
hot

>>532226009
Godspeed anon

>>532226009
because gr15 hasn't been relevant in 12 years

>>532226009
Go back fag

Fix your shit, Nicole!

Turdge

Momma foxa.

>>532227956
this has happened irl exactly 0 times

>>532228025
>irl
>it's a cuckolding fanfiction branded by sega

>>532227956
Hate this bitch but Tails should cum in her.

>Rouge
>Honey
>Cream
>Bunnie
>Mina
>Barby
>Zooey
>Vanilla
>Blaze
>Li Moon
>Belle
>Cosmo
>Maddie
>Wave
>Fiona
>Carrotia
>Perci
>Marine
>Alicia (Anti-Sally)
>Tangle
>Sara
>Maria
>Rosemary
>Sally
All of them fox'd.

>>531923636
>you cried to Slashy in his DMs
This never happened. I mentioned it being pathetic that you blocked me on twitter. Nothing about 'crying'. And for the record, my issue was with you calling biological females transgender as an insult. Not with you 'being mean to trans people' or what have you. Slashy was the one who decided to approach you about that entirely of his own volition. Something that I wish he had not done because of the fact you had blocked me. I respected that and did not wish to engage with you directly further on the subject unless you in particular reached out to me.

>>532228231
Ywnbaw

The fuck is this gay ass twitternigger drama now?

>>532228313
>>532228512
Sonic would hate you.

Tails and Amy talking about how much they love Sonic with each other!
Tails and Amy inspiring each other and bringing out the best in one another!
Tails and Amy spending time together when the wind isn't around!
Tails and Amy playing with cards together!
Tails and Amy cuddling during a thunderstorm, making Tails scared and Amy helping calm him down!
Tails and Amy!

>>532226009
Kill yourself.

I keep forgetting to buy cooking oil

>>532228647
>Deleted render
>Someone vandalizing a statue
>25 year old English bio that says something different in Japanese
Wow you sure showed me.

>>532228716
Tails and Amy thinking you're a weird creepy dude for obsessing over children!

>>532228796
Elon deleted the tweet not sega
>saying that sonic would agree with oppression
lmfao stfu bigot

>>532228796
>自由気ままが大好きで、まがったことが大キライ。
>lit translation: Loves freedom, hates injustice

>>532228230
Tails deserves better than that used-up whore.

>>532228512
>3 in the morning
not everybody lives in burgerland fatty

>nonody wnats momma foxa
More vixens for me then!

>>532224003
Read this is a way that made my ears bleed, thanks.takga

>>532230152
>halflid shit
>crackship

Featureless...

You guys...you missed Miku Monday...

>>532230368
He is not half lidding. and that ship ain't crack

>>532228301
Did you not see that post the other day? Anyway, I like Krack, but I hope she learns to become less aggressive one day.

Does Shadow say "Hmph, I'm the coolest" in the JP dub?

>>532230821
>>532230464
>>532230152
>crackship spam

I miss Shadally.

>>532230880
You want canon ship spam? can do!

>>532230464
Any shadow ship that isn't with maria is literally a crackship stupid amyfag

>>532231026
Maria is dead
>Any shadow ship that isn't with rouge is literally a crackship stupid amyfag
fixed

>>532231302
>>532231026
You want him? you're going to have to take him *read in Vergil's voice*

>>532231464
>>532231516
Amy being in love with someone who isn't Sonic is weird and wrong.

Shadouge is lame

>>532228301
Idk who this slashy is but thanks for highlighting that thread, >>531924901 is fucking hilarious, some people around here is so fucked they straight up organize events with their personal breadtube circlejerk to fling their dicks around or respond to a 3 days old post.

Way to go, /sthg/ays

Fluffy boy!!

>>532231605
Shadouge is a sort of anti-ship.

They're together, but not romantically, even though they can't do anything towards each other without people interpreting it as romantic.

>>532231789
According to 06 documents you're wrong

>>532231861
but anon, that game is 95% not canon and the people in charge of its lore are no longer on sonic team.

>>532231789
Shadow will stay alone.

>>532231861
nothing in those documents still applies.

>>532230770
>JP dub
Not a dub. Also no, he does not say that.

>>532232592
>Not a dub
Don't care about muh accurate terminology.
>Also no, he does not say that.
What does he say instead?

Tangle is a filthy monkey

>>532232674
>What does he say instead?
"Hmph...interesting."

>>532233048
What an odd change, thank you for your assist.

>>532207712
Is Chronicles windkino?

532210564
>CD and Sonic 1 above Sonic 2
This is the taste of someone who thinks SatAM is a masterpeace and jerks off to pics Sally Acorn in diaper

>>532233152
>westshit
>windkino

>>532233195
I can't hear Sonic on Ian's writing at all. Just Spidey.

>>532233301
Im thinking of buying it. I still have a ds. Sthg made me curious

>>532233195
Why is Sonic such a dick to Knuckles? What the fuck even warranted that?

>>532233428
Shit gameplay and terrible soundtrack, and a story whose elements and characters will never see the light of day again. Watch a walkthrough or read the wiki.

>>532233506
Sad

>>532211816
Pucci makes the fine ass sweatshirts that you can buy in the black person mall.

>>532233428
I wouldn't, it's genuinly not fun to play, not even for its story, which isn't so much "bad" so much as it is insubstantial and underwhelming.

>>532233284
SatAM and AoSTH were tie-ins for Sonic 2.

>>532231692
Not any of those people but sometimes I want to respond to months-old posts.

Ian's Sonic is in character for current era Sonic isn't he

>>532228301
>2+ day old post about Discord drama
C'mon...

I was uncomfortable with you in that server from the beginning and said nothing. Seeing you call yourself a "girl" when you are a man is extremely unsettling to me on a very deep level. I still sucked it up, I didn't mention it, I didn't try to correct you, and I engaged with you cordially in conversation because, despite having the option to just ban you at my fingertips, I didn't want to do to others what had been done to me.
But like every person under your flag, you got mad at people freely voicing their thoughts, left, then complained about toxicity on the owner's post and to everyone around you. It's not just Slashy who messaged me about it, one of your Tailsfag friends did as well. He tried to convince me you're "not one of them". Heaven knows how many more you told, from what I gather you told them I instigated it.
To think you said you disliked "imposing personal moral, political, and social values on the community in a way that is suffocating".
It's not enough for you to have 100,000 places that vocally accommodate you and kick out all of your ideological enemies. You knowingly went into a server shilled by me. There's even a lefty Shadria server, you could have gone there, but you specifically chose mine.
In my perspective, troons try to destroy what makes me comfortable and happy. That mindset is NEVER proven wrong. It's only ever reinforced.
I don't want to be reminded that gender cultism exists because it makes me feel physically ill. I will always react extremely negatively in response to any attempt to control me, what I do, and how I think. It doesn't matter to me if it hurts me, it doesn't matter if I'm sad or angry, and it won't matter if I'm eventually doxed or hurt in real life. I would rather be killed than be forced to say things I don't and never will believe.
I hope that makes sense because I don't want to reply anymore. This isn't (shouldn't be) off-site drama dumping grounds.

>>532223947
>>532224119
>Hey, Sonic. May I please pet you?
>"Sure! Go right ahead."

>>532233971
AOSTH I can believe, but not SatAM.

Do you ever see this franchise becoming one where two characters charge each other and the resulting clash unleashes a shockwave that blows everybody back and devastates the surrounding area?

>>532235113
the stoopid friends crowd can't be SatAMfags because SatAM was about Sonic and his stoopid friends

>>532227430
>Bitch, I don't run this site. I got a entire city and its defenses to manage. Plus I'm primary support for the strike force that functionally comprises the bulk of my nation's military. Blow me.

>>532235150
They already do that in the movies.

Mating press Surge

>>532235314
Surge only does anal.

>>532235314
Sonic...

>>532233476
>Why is Sonic such a dick to Knuckles? What the fuck even warranted that?

I told you Shadria fags would ruin sthg

>>532235549
So who's arguing?

>>532231989
Shadow after I kiss him <3
>>532231861
? '06 documents confirm Rouge has a thing for both Shadow, but it doesn't say if Shadow feels the same way. Nothing does. It's one-sided for all intents and purposes.
>>532233428
You can emulate Chronicles too. It's okay, nothing to write home about. I personally thought it was mildly entertaining, but it's not great.

>>532235196
i haven't seen any of them the only thing I know from the movies is that Sonic and Shadow did a dap up

>>532235549
Shadria saved /sthg/.
Source: I made it up just now.

Fuck it, I'm bored. Let's shit on Knuckles.

Is Sega really so butthurt scared of Penders that they've intentionally ruined one of their most iconic characters by forcing him to stand in front of a useless rock on an empty island, unable to do ANYTHING ever? Pathetic.

>>532235668
06 documents say "rouge has a thing for shadow in the games, and a complicated relationship with knuckles in X"

That seemingly implies that in the games she's intended to have a crush on shadow, whereas her thing for knuckles was an X-only thing. Seeing as how she was designed to be Shadow's partner and apparent love interest, it's reasonable to expect that if shadow falls for anyone, his only option is rouge. It's the only one that makes any sense for either character. Similar to how the only reasonable option is Amy, and Silver Blaze. It also makes sense from a branding perspective because it's hedgehog-centric. If they waste time giving anyone love interests, it'll be the hedgehogs, namely sonic and shadow, who already have confirmed obvious choices.

>>532236021
For years people complained about Knuckles not doing his job, being the guardian of the Master Emerald.

They literally gave the people what they wanted, so why are they complaining now?

Shadougefags when you remind them that Rouge is taller than Shadow

>>532236021
No. It's Ian. SEGA had Knuckles be the leader of the resistance in Forces independent of his duty as Guardian of the Master Emerald.
SEGA wanted to have Knuckles go to the Starfall Islands along with his friends of his own accord.
Ian demanded this be changed so that Knuckles had a contrived reason for ending up on the Starfall Islands. Ian hates the idea of Knuckles going 'against his role as Guardian' and autistically wants to pigeonhole Knuckles into this perpetual role.

>>532236220
So is Sally, what's your point?

>>532236021
Overrated nontent character who should have been vaulted after SA1. Complete fuck up in everything he's ever done, and only exists to be sonic's dudebro friend when he's not jobbing to the antagonist of the week.

>>532236103
Be careful what you wish for. Turns out a character standing in place all day isn't very entertaining.

>>532236242
>SEGA had Knuckles be the leader of the resistance in Forces independent of his duty as Guardian of the Master Emerald.
Yeah, and look how that turned out. Whoever thought this was a good idea needs to be slapped. Knuckles is a bruiser, a bouncer. He's not a goddamn paramilitary leader.

>>532236242
>Ian hates the idea of Knuckles going 'against his role as Guardian' and autistically wants to pigeonhole Knuckles into this perpetual role.

The issue was Knuckles was usually seen hanging out with Sonic and Tails for no reason whatsoever, he literally had no reason to be in Sonic 06 whatsoever.

It's honestly not difficult to think of things for Knuckles to do that wouldn't contradict his job as Guardian of the Master Emerald and Angel Island.

>>532236316
Why do they have nails

I'M GONNA RAPE IT!

>>532236220
But Shadow is supposed to be my badass 7ft tall selfinsert...

>>532236242
>Ian demanded
Bro, the dude is some cheaply paid freelancer, he can't demand shit.

>>532236328
Sega's big mistake was not making a Knuckles game that capitalized on the big God of War crazy when everybody was making their own version of it. He's literally the best character for that kind of gameplay, the Werehog was a stupid idea.

>>532236452
>he literally had no reason to be in Sonic 06 whatsoever.
He had no reason to be in Heroes either. Or any of the Riders games, or Shad05. Etc, etc. This dude has literally no reason to ever leave that fucking island, and that's the problem.

Also, funny how people somehow get mad at Ian when he allegedly wants to stay true to a character's core concept.

>>532236565
Why is this ignored in all of their fanart

>>532236581
Right?! Why in the FUCK does the Werehog exist when Knuckles is right there? Been saying this for years. Hell, fucking Amy would've made more sense than turning Sonic into a werewolf.

>>532236710
Knuckles' "core concept" means he doesn't do jack and fuck in the franchise ever. Why else do you think he's such a nonentity in IDW?

>>532236710
I'm not mad at Ian for wanting to " stay true to a character's core concept", I'm mad at him for failing to do even a halfway decent job at working within those parameters.

>>532236910
Ironically Frontiers destroyed some potential story setups for Knuckles, such as Chaos and the origin of the Chaos Emeralds.

>>532236847
I mean he's supposed to be a 1:1 of 3'3" Sonic. I think a lot of fans just subconsciously disregard Rouge's height advantage as being due to her prodigious high-heels. Something I find as interesting is Blaze is slightly shorter and exactly halfway between Sonic & Amy.

>>532236451
>Knuckles is a bruiser, a bouncer
He's an introspective and cunning treasure hunter who was saddled with the unfortunate responsibility of being the ME's sole guardian. He already had a convenient reason for leaving the emerald: wanting to get out and adventure. He's been flanderized over the years to being a generic tough guy who wants everyone off his lawn, with Ian writing him like he's in love with the damn gem and treating it like his mom. His whole arc in frontiers where he wants to get out and see the world more is a literal repeat of his adventure storyline.

>>532237135
>Ironically Frontiers destroyed some potential story setups for Knuckles, such as Chaos and the origin of the Chaos Emeralds.
True point about the origin of Chaos and the Emerlads, but it at least did protect the mystery of the Master Emerald as an Earth-native artifact.

>>532237178
Something doesn't add up there.

It looks as if Blaze is just slightly taller than Silver, but the numbers say Silver's got the same height as Sonic and Shadow...

your are brainrot you bloody bastard bloody bitch

>>532236053
It's definitely played up in X, but let's not pretend Knuxouge wasn't a thing in the games. It obviously was, there's no other reason for that scene where Knuckles saves her from falling than to add romantic tension to their dynamic. There's also other shipbaiting in the games, like Sonic asking the two if they're on a date and the likes, and plenty of bios/descriptions aside from the '06 one that mention Rouge has an interest in him (and sometimes they mention he might be falling for her too).
Knuckles' weakness is girls, so what better rival for him than a seductive alpha female who gets her way by flirting and manipulating people? It's pretty obvious what they were going for.
Shadow seems available at first glance, but he's emotionally taken by Maria. No, it doesn't matter if she's dead. A tragic hero like Shadow would of course have a tragic love life.
>>532236847
When I made Shadouge fanart I made him the shorter one. Don't look at me.

>>532236910
>Knuckles' "core concept" means he doesn't do jack and fuck in the franchise ever.
Again, that's the problem.

>>532236943
The parameters are unreasonable and unworkable. Flynn even tried to mitigate this by adding Sticks to be his little buddy who would watch the emerald for him while he goes to do adventures, but Sega laughed in his face.

>>532237407
>let's not pretend Knuxouge wasn't a thing in the games

Only in Sonic Adventure 2. MAYBE also Sonic Battle, it's been a while.

>>532236565
Thats a hot manlet

Knuckles' campaign not getting rid of the Master Emerald at the end is one of the biggest narrative mistakes in this franchise. That stupid rock being kept around for no reason is why we're in this situation, and why Knuckles stopped being relevant after SA1

>>532237476
Sticks has no reason to be connected to Knuckles or be on the island.

>>532237634
So then... what would Knuckles do? Just be a treasure hunter?

>>532236452
>>532236710
This is not a problem at all. You don't need to explain why Knuckles (or Blaze, or Silver) is there. Just put him there with no explanation
>but it doesn't make sense
Yes it does, Knuckles is there because he just is. That's how Sonic Team operates and it's fine.
If you really want an explanation, you can always just say he and Tikal/Chaos take turns guarding it post-SA1

>>532237327
>It looks as if Blaze is just slightly taller than Silver, but the numbers say Silver's got the same height as Sonic and Shadow...
Fur/Quill-induced optical illusion. Same story trying to measure Vegeta depending on if you start slightly above his widow's peak or the ends of his spikes.

>>532237690
Sticks is a technophobe who loves shiny things, making her an Angel Island resident is the most obvious way to work her into the mainline canon.

The Knuckles anniversary stories were so telling for how utterly pathetic they were.
>Modern: "Nooooooo, da emarold tying him down is good, actually!"
>Classic: the issue is actually about Trip cause she's actually a viable character despite being brand new
This character needs to be fucking retired already. I can't watch this shit anymore.

>>532237712
Yeah it would be better than just being forced to do nothing. Tails, Amy and Gamma got character development in SA1 while Knuckles remained the same. I think the only characters that shouldn't change much are Sonic and Eggman since they're the core components of this series

>>532237840
The most obvious way to work her into the main series is to just put her there with no explanation (that's what they did on the Sonic Channel comics and it works perfectly fine)
>but it doesn't make sense
Yes it does, Sticks is there because she just is. She's simply a character that exists like any other character

>>532237407
>let's not pretend Knuxouge wasn't a thing in the games.
A game, SA2, and even then it's intentionally vague given how she talks about shadow in the final cutscene.

>Knuckles saves her from falling than to add romantic tension to their dynamic.
Probably the most forced scene in franchise history. She's a bat, she can fly, and the beam they're on doesn't even exist prior to the cutscene

>There's also other shipbaiting in the games, like Sonic asking the two if they're on a date and the likes, and plenty of bios/descriptions blah blah blah
Not Japanese, don't care. I see the graphic spammed here too and none of those are even canon and most of it is third-party english slop

>Knuckles' weakness is girls, so what better rival for him than a seductive alpha female who gets her way by flirting and manipulating people? It's pretty obvious what they were going for.
I must have missed the memo because Sa2 seemed like a shadouge game to me and plenty of other people. Even the scene where knuckles "saves" her was a callback to shadow saving her.

>Shadow seems available at first glance, but he's emotionally taken by Maria.
Aaand there's your true colors. Maria is dead, even shadgens hammers home that shadow is moving on.

>>532237840
Literally just Amy's friend from the wild. Fuck that Ian's retarded premise.
>Oh, Sticks was on Angel Island the whole time and thought she was a the guardian of it and her and Knuckles never ran into each other.
Come on, man.

>>532237690
>>532237840
There's no legitimate reason Sticks can't be Knuckles' sidekick. Sega are just butthurt at the idea of adding Western made characters because they're old Japanese businessmen.

>>532237840
No because Knuckles is meant to be an isolated weirdo. He's the only anthro to live at Angel Island. Retroactively adding a new anthro character there out of nowhere is stupid. Ian could've chosen any classic island for Sticks to inhabit and he chose the one that makes zero sense

>>532238137
She can exist within Knuckles' proximity without having a stupid unnecessary backstory

>>532238036
I'm not a fan of the Amy and Sticks dynamic, it forces Amy into being the sane one just to accomodate Sticks' mental issues.

>>532238032
Here's how think it goes
>SA2 Knuckles and Rouge hand holding
>X writes have a MMMMMMMM SHIPPING moment
>They make knuxouge in X and recreate the hand holding scene in the SA2 arc
>Knuxouge become the default ship
>Maekawa comes in later with his shadouge and silvaze
>Maekawa: "wow. those people were doing knuxouge in X"
>ship wars on deviantart and fanfiction.com

>>532238178
Just call them furries at this point you sick fuck

>>532237995
>>532238036
This is especially works for Sticks because she's a comic relief character. Her just being there because fuck you would be funny.

>>532238137
Why should Sticks be retconned into Knuckles' sidekick just to get him off Angel Island?

>>532238332
Islanders is better

>>532238284
Isn't Rouge's design literally built around Knuckles as his rival in SA2? Even as a kid I always assumed Knuxouge was the end game, and then I watched the 06 cutscenes on YouTube and apparently she's for Shadow now lol

>Sonic 2 Archives planned to add a cool reference to the scrapped dragon boss from 3&K beta
>basically you're in your super state, the emeralds are spiraling around the M.E., then suddenly golden Chinese dragon jumps out of the master emerald, and lunges at you. it shoots spectral lasers and flies you across the arena, which drains your rings
>had kick ass music too
>they scrapped it and share what got made
>many months later
>the video private
>nobody reshared anywhere online
https://youtu.be/4jjERqtiN7I?si=dbodUVX_FKaS8XUv
Sometimes, I just really hate Sonic romhackers.

>>532238397
Because it makes more sense that a crazed gunwoman obsessed with gems looking after the Master Emerald would make more sense than its mystically-appointed guardian just up and leaving it unguarded.

Just have Tails build a security system or whatever.

>>532238474
The whole "Rouge is the dark version of Knuckles" thing really didn't last. Now Rouge is the dark version of Tails.

>>532238479
Wasn't the 3&K dragon turned into Perfect Chaos?

>>532238397
Okay, then retire Knuckles entirely then, because he is literally unusable unless we can find an excuse to get him off that island and do anything besides standing in front of a rock all day. In the rain too. Seriously, what the hell was this shit, X? Build a fucking roof, you stupid bastard.

>>532238483
Sticks was not created to just be an out for Knuckles to get off his island. If his character fails to do that on its own, then there is no reason to drag another character down for it.

>>532238592
>Now Rouge is the dark version of Tails
Which makes her the bulma to Shadow's vegeta

>>532238648
What Sticks was created for ended up as a steaming unsalvageable mess, this is recycling for the sake of salvaging potentially good ideas.

>>532238737
Preach. Never abandon a good idea just because it was in a bad product. Metroid Prime 4 brought back the Golem mechs from Federation Force, and they look fucking awesome now. Bring back Sticks and let her be the funny paranoid little gremlin she is.

>>532238737
Amy's friend from the wild. Strapping Sticks to Knuckles' rock and making her stationary so Knuckles can appear more is not a potentially good idea. It's wasteful. Ian's idea sucked dick and that's why Sticks is vaulted now.

>>532238479
>?si=dbodUVX_FKaS8XUv
I hate YouTube for adding this tracking garbage

Luckily the video happens to be saved on archive.org https://web.archive.org/web/20250630154121/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jjERqtiN7I
It says it's private but I think it was saved separately so it still plays

The closest thing I can think of, is that the Master Emerald shows visions to Knuckles, and it could order Knuckles to go somewhere and participate in a game's story. You could even bullshit some explanation about "Knuckles saving the world is retroactively protecting the ME" or something

Problem with this is that, the Master Emerald literally telling Knuckles what to do with his life and go outside is kinda pathetic and him going only due to obligation is not very endearing but whatever. Also having him get Master Emerald visions every time would become repetitive

>crackship spamming hours
shitouge will never be in the movies and shitmy will die alone as a happy cuck kek!

>>532238615
Maybe, but I don't think this is confirmed

>>532238934
I don't get why "Amy's friend from the wild" is any better of an idea for Sticks.

>>532237482
Nahh, the Rivals games, Colors DS, that Sonic Generations party, Sonic Runners...they were also shipbaiting Knuxouge in Prime (Rebel/Renegade). All of those had Knuxouge hinting in them. They don't shipbait it as obviously as they used to, but you could say that for most of the pairings.
>>532238032
>even then it's intentionally vague
Nnnot really...I picked up on it when I was like 7. They're unsubtle about Knuxouge in SA2.
>Probably the most forced scene in franchise history. She's a bat, she can fly, and the beam they're on doesn't even exist prior to the cutscene
Yeah, the cutscene is done sloppily, but it tells you pretty clearly what Sega wanted - romantic tension between Knuckles and Rouge.
>Not Japanese
I'm sure you could find some of the things I've mentioned in Japanese as well.
>I must have missed the memo because Sa2 seemed like a shadouge game to me
That's cool if you interpreted it that way I guess, but it seemed like a Knuxouge game through and through to me. The way Shadow and Rouge interact is far less sexually charged and Shadow shows no true interest in her the way Knuckles did.
>Aaand there's your true colors. Maria is dead
...That's just Shadow's character. He remembers her and loves her forever. It doesn't matter whether or not she's dead. They also imply she will meet him again somehow.

My impression:
>Rouge has a romantic/sexual interest in Knuckles and Shadow, but she also values her own freedom immensely
>Knuckles has a slight interest in Rouge and he is flustered by her teasing, but the Master Emerald takes priority
>Shadow has no clear interest in Rouge and he is emotionally taken by Maria, but he cares about Rouge's safety

When is the last time anyone tried to steal the master emerald

>>532239159
Sticks into the mainline continuity just to have her glued to the cuck rock just so Knuckles can do something is not a good idea. When people want characters like Sticks to return they want them to do something and participate in the universe. Just have Knuckles find or unseal some ancient creature hidden on the island that's connected to the Master Emerald or whatever and have it guard the emerald. No need to retcon another character to do it.

>>532239414
It's not as if that means Sticks can't do her own shit, it just gives her an actual purpose, as opposed to being "Amy's friend" which I'll remind you didn't work out so well as far as Cream's lasting role in the franchise.

>>532238991
You might be cooking, actually. In the anniversary story, the M.E does give Knuckles visions to tell him that his life has meaning. Although in context it looks more like even the Master Emerald is telling this nigga to get a life.
>~Knuckles~... ~bring Rouge here~... ~I like when she rubs her voluptuous body on me~... ~make love to her on top of me~... ~restore the echidna race~!
But anyway, him getting missions from da emarold would be SOMETHING. Just, give use something, Sega.

>>532238474
>Isn't Rouge's design literally built around Knuckles as his rival in SA2?
Yes, because she's his rival. She designed to be his rival, not his love interest. She evidently developed independently into her own character without being tethered to knuckles like knuxougefags apparently feel they're owed because "she was designed around him". Blaze was designed around sonic to be his rival, that doesn't automatically make her a love interest too.

>>532239545
>Blaze was designed around sonic to be his rival, that doesn't automatically make her a love interest too.

As far as the Sonaze fanatics are, it does.

>>532238991
Sonic Team already solved this """problem""" in 2003. Literally just put Knuckles in a game with no explanation. If the Master Emerald isn't relevant to the story then there is no need to explore the context of the Master Emerald in that story

>>532239490
Purpose to take Knuckles' place being stationary to the rock instead? This whole discussion is how the Master Emerald holds back Knuckles from doing anything and your solution is to take an already preexisting character and chaining them to that role instead.

>which I'll remind you didn't work out so well as far as Cream's lasting role in the franchise.
Amy can only have one friend?

>>532239662
>Literally just put Knuckles in a game with no explanation.

People don't like that though, and if I had to guess neither does Ian.

It is true Knuckles was the only character who had no plot-related reasons to be in Sonic06. Yes he was given a letter to pass along to Sonic, but that's hardly something Knuckles specifically was needed for.

you faggots don't recognize this as romantic because youre retarded and ugly

>>532239662
Yeah, this. It's already happened in the series anyway. So just have Knuckles show up like those other times and don;t mention the Master Emerald.

>>532239662
An easy solution would be for the ME/Angel island to go missing and now Knuckles, a treasure hunter, is forced to scour the world for clues regarding it's disappearance, ideally echidna artificats, some of which might be scattered in far-off places or museums. There, he now has time to hangout with his friends and interesting solo adventures to go on.

What's with Nintendo hiring these pronouns VAs?

>>532239802
I bet those "people" don't like Knuckles not appearing at all as the other option. He either shows up or he doesn't at all. Pick your poison.

>>532239662
But that makes no sense, Knuckles has no sense of duty then

>>532239970
Explain.

>>532206869 (OP)
Mina Milestone Maybe?

>>532239040
Amy doesn't care.

>>532239802
He just so happened to be there and he helped Sonic in his adventure

>Ian doesn't like it
Who cares? Ian should follow Sonic Team's rules

>>532239965
We don't need to justify it like this at all, but I like the idea

>>532240019
Wrong, he's still the same character, the Master Emerald just isn't brought up because it isn't relevant

>>532238178
Why can't Sticks just happen to live on the Island that Trip does?

>>532240095
Dude handwaving things away isn't solving anything. The Master Emerald is still a thing that needs to be guarded by someone

>>532240127
Why purpose would that even serve?

>>532240050
That's a terrible idea.

>>532240159
It's already been handwaved in games for a decade. Unless you wanna go back and explain why Knuckles was just hanging with Sonic and Tails in all those other games.

uuuuuu im gay and sad uuuuu

>>532240040
Peach's nu actor came out today and she has She/They on her bio.

>>532240291
Yeah the shit already hit the fan that doesn't mean we can't stop shitting going forward

>>532240095
>We don't need to justify it like this at all
In the interest of character consistency you do. For people who want to complain about his "duty", it would still be there, but not in the traditional sense. Now instead of the security guard patrolling the mall, the security guard now has to find out where his keys went and patrol the city.

>>532240329
Great, and if I remember right Daisy's new VA is a tranny.

>>532235668
>It's one-sided for all intents and purposes.
Yeah just like Sonamy was supposed to be right? If anything it just reinforces the notion of Amy and Rouge needing to be the main girls of the franchise because they are THE girls to be paired up with the two most popular boys in this franchise even if a canonized relationship won't be the final outcome. In the end, Sonic/Amy and Shadow/Rouge are paired together in any context regardless

Knuckles either stays with the Master Emerald or he doesn't, Pick a lane, Knucklesfags. Do you want him to appear or do you want him to "respect his duty"?

>>532240205
What's the worst that could ha- oh right...

>>532240396
I don't see why we can't have both.

My problem is just Knuckles feeling very purposeless for the longest time now.

>>532240159
It's not handwaving. It's not giving an explanation at all. It doesn't need to be explained or referenced because it isn't relevant to the story currently being told. That's how all of Sonic Team's stories are written (Ian's input aside). The state of the Master Emerald in Sonic Heroes is simply unknown and unexplained, and that's okay

For all we know Knuckles could be going through a bigger adventure that also included Sonic Heroes. They could give him his own Shadow Generations that reveals what Knuckles was doing before Sonic Heroes. And the best part is that you could make a whole game about that and still completely ignore the Master Emerald

>>532240372
There is nothing inconsistent about Knuckles in those games, he is simply not currently on Angel Island for whatever reasons that don't need to be explained because they are currently not relevant

>>532239272
>He remembers her and loves her forever.
And this love doesn't have to disappear for him to move on, nor does that love have to be romantic in order for her to have the impact she did on him.

>>532240396
Emeraldfags already picked their lane. It's the other Knucklesfags that are unhappy

>>532231743
That's the good stuff.

>>532240380
>Yeah just like Sonamy was supposed to be right?
NTA but yes? Sonic didn't give two shits about Amy at first

>>532240593
That reaffirms the point that Shadow and Rouge are intended to be the edgier Sonamy

>>532240746
No shit.

That being said, it doesn't feel like Shadow really NEEDS Rouge. It's nice to have her around but it feels as if he works better alone.

>>532240529
>There is nothing inconsistent about Knuckles in those games
I'm not disagreeing with you there, but I'm talking about current knuckles. As it is now, he apparently needs a good reason to leave, so it'd be way easier to just flip it upside down and make it his mission to return. At the end of the day, the master emerald, angel island, his duty are all plot devices and should be treated as such.

>>532240798
Sonic doesn't really need Amy either and yet

The purpose of the Master Emerald is specifically for Knuckles to have a sense of duty and responsibility that keeps him chained down, in direct opposition to Sonic's freedom.

Knuckles being chained down, unable to be free, is the entire point. He is SUPPOSED to be stuck in one place and NOT free to just be shoved in every adventure, because the entire concept is built on making him the Anti-Sonic. Sonic is as free as the wind, so Knuckles is the immovable mountain.

Sonic is not supposed to have a home, or a job, or any sort of obligation or even relationship that keeps him tied down. Inversely, Knuckles is meant to have all those things locking him down firmly. And so every new Sonic game takes place in a random new location Sonic just happens to travel to, but Knuckles being shoved in just to be part of the gang does not and can not make any sense because Knuckles HAS to be on Angel Island.

The only viable solution is to expand the scope of his guardianship to cover the Chaos Emeralds as well. As Guardian of the Master Emerald, it is his sworn duty to -also- keep watch over the Chaos Emeralds and ensure they do not fall into the wrong hands. The games previously trying to have Knuckles refer to the Chaos Emeralds as falling under Sonic's jurisdiction makes no sense. Sonic may be the one who embodies their power and can control it better than anyone, but it's not his responsibility. Knuckles' job as "The Guardian
should cause him to also be Sonic's Rival by having him be the "authority" and "master" Sonic has to deal with, which of course Sonic would rebel against.

Sonic is aligned with the Chaos Emeralds, Knuckles is aligned with the Master Emerald. Thus, Knuckles is the "Master" that has to keep Sonic, the "Chaos", under control and neutralize him if need be. But Sonic, like with SA1's theme, understands that "Chaos" does not need to be mastered as long as you open your heart, because the heart is the true master of chaos. Not the Master Emerald.

>>532240854
>I'm talking about current knuckles
I see, that makes more sense

>>532240890
Sonic needs Tails more than he needs Amy, and Rouge is Shadow's version of Tails too.

>>532240854
No one is going to be thinking of some in-depth reason for Knuckles to get off the island and go on an adventure. Neither the games or IDW want to do this. No continuity does this because it's a retarded headache.

>>532240593
>Sonic didn't give two shits about Amy at first
Still saves her in CD too.

>>532240905
Sparky you realize knuckles isn't a literal mountain right

>>532240380
Shipbait is lame and Sega is lame for including it.
Having the 'suggestion' of romance with no actual romance is retarded and bad writing and storytelling.
Western writers got it right by either making Sonic be in a relationship with Sally or having him be a slut like in AoSTH.
Sonic having a 'will they won't they' with a 12 year old girl is neither interesting nor fun storytelling. Merely enjoyed by manchildren who fantasize about a girl who will love them unconditionally and autistic women and trannies who unhealthily project their neurosis and boy obsession onto Amy Rose.
I yearn for the days Sonic actually had interesting storytelling.

>>532240978
I'd want plot-related reasons for Knuckles to go on an adventure, because I prefer a story with setup instead of "I just happened to be in the area".

>>532240905
some anon brought up the idea of the ME having a will and telling Knuckles to do stuff, but that seems pretty weird to introduce so late in the series and would definitely have people question why it didn't do that before

>>532240957
Tails isn't a woman though. Rouge is. That why she can fit the bill of both Tails and Amy. That's the difference. If Tails was a girl, she'd become the defacto "love interest" with hybrid traits too and Amy wouldnt exist

>peak hating schizo is back
Seriously, fuck your shipping it's because of this alone. She's better for human men.

>>532240746
Shadow and Rouge were intended to be the edgier sonamy from the very beginning. It's why he saves her before knuckles does. It's why rouge is given his limiters at the end.

>>532240998
Well yeah Sonic is the good guy that saves people. That doesn't mean he reciprocated Amy's feelings at first

>>532241168
You're missing the point.

Sonic works better with a partner, while Shadow works better solo.

>>532241157
Didn't that kinda happen in SA1

>>532241205
Nah. He really wants to fuck Cream, anon. Trust. That's why he saves her. She's more interesting than Amy in the bedroom (it's an ear thing).

>>532240972
>edit
>>532240706
>ai slop
>>532241205
Then say that, you come off very wrong saying the former.

In short, if Knuckles is the Guardian of the Master Emerald, and the Master Emerald exists to neutralize the power of the Chaos Emeralds, then Knuckles' duty should be to watch over the Chaos Emeralds and ensure they do not cause... well... "chaos". And since Sonic is the embodiment of the Chaos Emeralds' power, then Knuckles has to be Sonic's "Master" as well. Naturally, Sonic won't like that, and thus their sparks their rivalry.

sonic never cared for shitmy

>>532241265
>Sonic works better with a partner
That's not even remotely true. Sonic solo adventures have worked for years. He doesn't NEED Tails either

>>532241309
Yeah my bad, I might've exaggerated

You can still characterize Knuckles as the mountain even if he is not literally chained.

>>532241293
Amy is such ragebait for shipping shitposts it makes me happy she's not chasing anymore. I despise all the hate she gets because of shippers. You can't even say she's annoying anymore, it's all just shippers.

I want to kiss the pink ugly rat!

>>532240587
If you went solely by fanart you'd think Amy's canon design would have a tan belly/midriff despite being covered like Shadow/Silver.

>>532241265
>Sonic works better with a partner
Complaints about Sonic's shitty friends beg to differ. And even if you don't believe friends were a bad a edition to the series, no ones actually asking for them to be paired up with Sonic, people want multiple solo adventures with the characters

Is shipping a self-insert thing?

>>532241461
We've been over this Tails, Rouge is a bat, not a rat.

>532241350
taking it out on amy won't make sonurge and sonouge happen

>>532241470
Those people don't understand Sonic. Those friends are a fundamental aspect of the series

>>532241485
Sometimes

>>532241350
People care for their best friends.
Sonic calling Amy his bestie implies he cares immensely for her. Although not particularly romantic.
>>532241485
Often but not always. I personally enjoy shipping for writefag reasons since I find ships fun and cute to write about. I like using them as part of character studies and so on. I am in the minority of shippers, though.

>>532241280
yeah, but Chaos was a being directly tied to the ME and the Knuckles tribe so it sorta makes sense why the ME would be a bit more active in directing Knuckles
the ME currently has no place in the larger context of the world, so it wouldn't make sense for it to send Knuckles off to help in potentially world ending disasters

>>532241375
>Sonic solo adventures have worked for years
Literally the only solo adventure Sonic went through after Sonic 1 was Sonic 4 Ep 1. That's it. I guess Generations could count too since Sonic's friends don't really do anything but Tails is still present in the story

>>532241529
No that rat, the other rat.

>>532241468
I just take any tan interpretation, (heart chest being peak) as her waxing.

>>532241583
>Sonic 4 Ep 1
Even that doesn't really count because Tails is still present, just off screen

>>532241696
Shouldn't Unleashed fall under the same category then?

Oh wait, Chip, nevermind.

>>532241704
yes exactly like this.

>>532241727
Tails and Amy are also in Unleashed, idk what you're saying here

If sonic is the wind tails is the shit.
Thus, their duo is the shart

>>532241583(me)
Oh yeah there's Sonic CD too, how could I forget. Two games

Also yeah the 8-bit version of Sonic 2 and Pocket Adventure are also solo adventures but these things are dubiously canon at best. Also the only reason why Sonic 2 8-bit is a Sonic solo is because they couldn't find a way to add Tails following Sonic on 8-bit hardware

>>532241810
Scourge is the shart, not Sontails.

blobian boys and human men are so lucky.

>>532241810
No no no you got it wrong.

Sonic is the fart, tails is the shit, knuckles is the smell.

>>532241925
Silver isn't cool enough to be called the drink

>532241834
No ship will happen specially yours.

>>532241696
Oh yeah the Sonic 4 games are a part of a larger thing lol. So it's just Sonic CD

Technically "the shit" is a compliment. Tails just can't stop winning even when you try to insult him

>>532241265
Nah, Sonic is just fine without Tails. I would only ask Amy is featured more on solo adventures where she meets people.

>>532242021
I'm joking, i'm tailsfag too.

Tails was created to go on adventures with Sonic, they're inseparable

I legit feel bad for Amy because Sonic treats her like shit.

>>532241583
Being present in the story is not the same as being paired up together. If Tails function serves the same purpose as other playable characters in the same story, that's not being paired up. Lost World is a pair up, Colors is a pair up, Unleashed is a pair up, Gens is a pair up because Tails is the first character we save and directly follows behind Sonic at every point. Sonic CD is solo. Any game that includes Knuckles to form a team like sa2, heroes, 06, riders, etc does not count because thats not a duo, in which case it can be argued that Sonic doesn't need either. Secret rings and Black Knight are solo, other characters exist but they are not the protagonists of the story that is about sonic helping people.
>But wouldn't merlina count as a duo with sonic?
No because Merlina is the character Sonic is helping, not someone he NEEDS in order to go on an adventure. >>532241727
Chip also does not count, but again Unleashed has Tails be integral for traveling around and thus utilized as a duo with Sonic. Frontiers is actually more of a solo adventure (excluding the dlc ending) because he has to save his friends and they all get left to their individual islands.
>>532241696
Sonic 4 episode 1 is not a pair up, Episode 2 is.

>>532242306
That's why she should move onto better men.

>shipping drama
>sonaze dead center of all of it when not shadria

>>532242006
Even without Episode 2 or Episode Metal, Tails isn't completely absent from Episode 1. This rocket has his logo on it. I think the implication was that he was building it off screen

>>532242282
This

>>532242306
Amy sounds better off doing her own things which she has been doing. I don't think she treats her bad at all but he's just fundamentally unable to pursue anything with her.

>>532242306
According to the latest tailstube, amy is the one ignoring sonic the simp.

>>532242306
shitmy deserves it

>>532242340
It doesn't change the fact that none of these are Sonic solo adventures

>532242550
Your ship is shit pathetic, shipper

Beep beep best ship coming through

>>532242451
I wish Sonic 4 was good

>>532242340
This is just a bunch of nonsense

>>532242580
But it does prove the fact that Sonic doesn't NEED Tails specifically. Or any specific character if they all serve the same kinds of function of being present somewhere in the story. The same can be said for Shadow too, he doesn't work solo in any of his stories either. Saying he works better solo can be disproven with the same logic that says Sonic doesn't have solo adventures

I was thinking about tails tales again, what if tails is truly hiding her true power under a jumpsuit?

>>532242824
Sonic relies on his wife (male) to cook and clean for him.
Without Tails to enable him to be 'like the wind' through his mechanics work, gadgets, gizmos, and rockets, Sonic would be stuck. Sonic needs Tails to propel him. That's why Tails is a literal propeller boy. He pushes the wind.

>>532242824
So what? Sonic and Tails will always be paired together because that's what Tails was created for, and Tails is a success and a quintessential character

Sonic will never settle with anyone.

>>532242981
>Westurd headcanon
Nah

>>532242981
Kys.

>>532243087
I mean those Tails tubes are released in the Japanese social medias so...

>>532242803
I just wish it had a different name and better sounds. If you ignore the expectations the name give then it's just a random mediocre 2D platformer
...Alternatively I wish it could have been a game worthy of that title, but that's just a completely different game at that point lol

>>532242981
I fucking hate you shippers for inforcing your headcannon into the fundamentals.

>>532242981
Tails quite literally carries and propels the wind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9idBdGBT_I

>>532243216
I like that pic lol

>>532243183
And better visuals too. Episode 1 looks abysmal

>>532243026
I never argued about Tails not being paired with Sonic. He's the essential player 2 character establish only right after Sonic. Despite that, that doesn't mean Sonic NEEDS him to function. The argument was that Shadow is a solo act while Sonic isn't when the reality is that Shadow has never actually ever had a real solo adventure. Neither Sonic or Shadow NEED any character to function, but they are main characters propped up by a supporting cast with some characters being more important them than others

Sonic can literally pilot and fly his own plane. I don't know why you shippers gas Tails' role up so much. He can't even be allowed to be cooler than Sonic.

>>532243470
Oh yeah true lol

>>532243471
>He's the essential player 2 character
Except on Valentine's Day merch.