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>>532203631
artifact feels so dogshit
rune is just autoloss
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Yey! tacos!
Is this guy playing aggro with luminous mage?
anyone unironically believing this is a bad matchup for sword is retarded
Been seeing a storm haven list on the ladder centered around Skullfane and Agnes
So why do all the other wards seem pissed at Phil?
>>532234709SNIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
*cough cough*
...SNIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
>went for the dirt instead of saving evo
what is this man doing
>>532234741He's the MC. They're all tsun for him.
>>532234694>>532234709sweaty sword girls are so prime
>>532234672You can't go full unga face with the heals going around
they really gave rune a better healing card than anything haven has and a better last word card than anything abyss has huh
>>532234741He's the defacto leader who gathered the rest of them to save the world
>dont have Normandy and Eternal E-girl to play Dirt
>only have 2 Albert and 1 Amelia for sword
>only have 1 Otohime and 2 Fortes for dragon.
>Abyss is too expensive.
>want to save my golds and Vial for Lishenna.
Look like I'm stuck with Orchis for the whole month
>>532234832Pick up the free sample deck for sword bro
>>532234741ok but why don't they have ward tho?
>>532234810>6pp evo gets cleared by Gildaria for free>8pp do nothing
>>532234926because the "ward" is localization fanfiction , they are the masked men/women
>>532234894That only give 1 useless crony girl and only 1 Gildaria.
>>532234948I cheated on the leader of my guild but he'll never find out at least
>>532234741He's like the outgoing boss that makes everyone do clown team building activities, that's why serious Zirconia and shut-in Alouette hate him the most
just went up against a portal player playing pure puppets, even ran zwei and the 6pp spell
it was pretty sad
>>532234810haven heals are ass outside salefa (and mostly only when played on curve) and darkhaven
if you don't play grimnir in dirt you're throwing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-bsC49TPlY
Another day. Another DECISIVE sword victory.
>>532234935maybe don't evo double golems then
Post your predictions for what the forest, portal, abyss, and neutral anathemas will do.
>>532235000I want a bf like phildoa to be tsun towards..
>>5322351191 will be great like Gildaria, 1 will be decent, 2 will do nothing
>>532235097>Get cleared by Odin for free instead
>>532234989You shouldn't do that, you need to come clean to him regardless of the consequences. NTR is never okay and you should feel bad.
>>532235097thats our only wincon..
wtf there was a lynching in the lobby
>>532235119Forest will be able to lock their combo for 1 turn
Why is Spicies so scared of Norman, he has Gildaria in his hand each time
>>532235262now you know where all the portal players went. sorry that you had to find out this way.
you know what, im not going for dirt afterall
>>532235286Sword has no efficient answer to double golem without Gildaria
>>532235097>Just give sword free tempo bro whats the worst that could happen
wtf, I have to put Phildau in my sword deck too...?
>decide to play Rune, but only have 1 dimensional climb and Kuon
>literally every single time I have lost against Rune in the mirror, it's just been from a fucking Coctyus into 2 dimensional climb high roll
>Even if I had the same cards I'd still lose because i'm going second and there's no real counterplay
I don't even know what needs to be fucking nerfed from it at this point. Just genuinely not a fun match up, major high roll. At least with pure dirt there is some semblance that you know what you're dealing with.
>>532235071>Sword is a dark triad personality with a distinct jawline, healthy weight and good posture>Rune is a chubby nerd whose poor eyesight is clear evidence of his inherently dysgenic disposition.Sword players are chads, Rune are the real sissies.
>>532235401>Even if I had the same cards I'd still lose because i'm going second and there's no real counterplayThis was true before Lili and Norman, not anymore
T8 lili into t9 double barrier golem norman protects you from 1shot (except triple demonic spirit kuon) and in case he cant clear the lili you get the oneshot with 1 kuon and 1 demonic spirit
>>532235478Dude what, spicies is wholesome af
>>532235000>>532234825Oh...hes freaking Siete/Seofon
Can't believe I won this game
>>532235023I cannot believe I nearly fall for puppet's A&G meme. Turn out she is useless in current meta.
how do people in my guild already have over 5k grp did they really won 200> matches in just few days?
>>532235391it's honestly a kind of awkward card - sword is normally pretty evo-hungry and you have ways to kill things, but there's a few cards you really need it for.
I run 2. Sometimes you do need to just play it out early though, since you need to maintain a board for sword to be good.
>>532235401The most fucked part of rune is you cant play around spellboost. With every other deck you can expect certain cards so you know if you should be evolving preemptively to survive with 1 health or going wide on the board. But with spellboost that's impossible because you have no idea how long as William or a Stormy has been sitting in their hand
>>532235703If you're in diamond you get ~200 grp per victory
>>532235703You get 100 times more grp in master
>>532235679delicious doll yuri
>>532235703every match in master gives way more points
gildaria proc should hit face
Damn, Gildaria is so strong.
Why do they have to make the other Anathemas so shit then
>>532235796BPD-chan and Burnite both see play.
>>532235796E-girl Mordecai is decent tho.
Nyooo... the winstreak...
He lost the topdeck it doesn't count
>roachcraft gets 10 damage in on me
>proceed to drop fat wards on arisa
>he starts passing his turn after this
sorry arisa chan..
>>532235703They don't shitpost on 4chan and play the game
>>532235391Sadly he is only good answer to coined alouette
The other answe is too specific.
He is also only answer to Yurious in mirror.
All other answers lose you the game
>>532235776Why is portal allowed to have two 10/10 semen demons? Fucking pet class
why dirt struggle on favorable matchup ? ? ?
>>532235976Dragon being shit is not her fault. It's Ho-chan's
What are they counting? One is probably matches in general but what is the other one?
>>532236047going first / going second
>>532236019>He is also only answer to Yurious in mirror.>All other answers lose you the gameEhm, your double Valse?
>>532235796Looking forward to Rodeo finally becoming viable for one set, only to be rotated out the set after.
>>532236047They're both matches but it's divided by turn order. They're doing Rune on first now
>>532236132rodeo was viable in set1 metagame
>medusa is the last card I'm missing to complete my collection from set 1
this stupid bitch needs to come home and I refuse to craft her
Interesting interaction with Jeno and Gil
https://x.com/marvel_tonton/status/1947321011369636061?s=46
>>532236076>>532236135Ah okay, so sword won 4 and lost 6 going first? Crazy.
>>532236132Can't believe they decided to print nothing for amulet haven this set. Even the new amulet doesn't compatible with Skullfane
is sword fun? i'm tired of playing magic solitaire
Who would win, board full of legendaries or one bronzy boi? *coughs blood at 6 hp* heh, not even close bricked ass runebab, you slot machine ass deck.
>>532236176Go back to your alternate timeline anon, it's better there.
>>532236264You're actually at 5hp.
What do rune players do to combat insane amount of aggro on ladder?
Also where did ward haven dissapear?
>>532236264It seems funny to see Rune keep stacking their dirt for no reason, leading to board space problems if they evolved onion lady and ran out of dirt users
>the strongest deck of the archetype is being overlooked for the most popular type
Gotta keep getting these wins in while I can
>>532236385They have like potentially 36 worth of HP healing if needed. Ward Haven has some insanely polarized match ups where it stomps on Forest but loses against control and surprisingly even aggro at times since they actually all use Odin
>"""aggro""" sword
>every match goes to turn 10+
>uses Odin to trade with a 2/2
What is this circus?
>>532235119Forest will be a combo extender who has a large pp cost that gets reduced for each point of combo and gives pp back when played, will be insanely overpowered for a while but will ultimately require a far too specific pattern of play that can be disrupted earlier than it can go off.
Portal will try to do some weird gimmicky bullshit that ties in both sides of the archetype like letting you use puppets in hand as artifact pieces that will sound cool but ultimately prove less effective than just pressing the Orchis button.
Abyss will get something that gives them a quasi-Vengeance effect while on field, like it buffs every units stats by a ridiculous amount like +4/+4 and will have aura or something but only if you're at 10 HP or below, everyone will think it's op but then they will remember being at that low of an HP value means you're dead to way too much shit.
Neutral, if they even get one, will be GOBLIN BASED IT'S GOBLINS TIME TO SHINE ALL GOBLINS ALL THE TIME YEAH BABY +10/+10 TO ALL GOBLINS
What even is the counter to the sword craft girl?
>>532236385They added more early game with the dirt cards and if they heal for 8 with norman its usually over I think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhKa7uNRQjE
>the strongest deck of the archetype is being overlooked for the most popular deck
Gotta keep getting these wins in while I can
>>532236613She's a reactive card you're not really meant to be countering her. Respecting her will lose you more games than playing into her
wait so the sets never get removed?
10 years from now we will still be able to buy infinity evolved packs to get the filene leader
even though the cards will not be usable?
>>532236541It's what happens when you fight against a class with at minimum 40 health.
>we got a false legend for BP instead of one that actually plays cards
What the fuck KMR?
>nyo why does he keep playing norman when gildaria clears him for free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why do so many evo lumi magus when there isn't evo bonus
>>532236320some ran a 1-of, the most known havenfag ran 2-3 copies by the end of the season
think that qualifies as "viable"
>>532236758>he thoughted the game will still be online in 10 years
>>532236758Yes, and they will NOT be transferred to shadoba 3.
>>532232101honestly wasn't that bad today
i guess that's the power of dropping out of diamond
>Look at the kickoff rules
>It's actually bring 2 decks, choose 1 to play
>Not ban one of your opponents decks
>And it's best of 1
Weird format. Bring back the old format.
>HO CHAN DENSETSU NO HAJIMARI DESU
Your response?
>>532236642Control Forest?
>>532236810They're just going to continuously give us the most pathetic characters from the stories as bp leaders. Next time it'll probably be sword chapter and we'll get like a fat ugly haven bishop guy or some shit.
Man I know a Norman that sticks is usually game, and on average Dirt is now likely to have Norman than Sword is to have Gildaria, but he really needs to consider using it for the draw instead of staying two golems the way they keep wiping
>>532234632put in effort with all of that merging shit for no payoff
meanwhile rune anngrea onions kuon norman autopilot to victory
>>532236952>fat ugly haven bishop guyThis is me. This is who I wanted to be representing in a children online card game.
>>532236613>>532236723Funny how it feels a lot of people slept on her pre release...
>>532236635I always like these streams if only because the streamer makes a lot of noises when they lose
>>532236908>bring haven just to scare forestpedos from playing their homosexual deckbased format
>>532236918I concede because I play a slow do nothing control deck
>>532236831If you mean Sakakibara, they were mostly trying it out in a control deck for a few days and floated around ruby before dropping it completely.
>>532237014Bro...forestpedos went extinct a week ago...
>>532236532>>532236625>They have like potentially 36 worth of HP healing if neededIn late game sure, but they wont survive against aggro apiss for that long. Hell, i have problems surviving to norman in this match up
>They added more early game with the dirt cardsCan i have some lists?
>>532237065that's what they want you to think
only 1 eudie still for my puppet deck. should i throw in ding?
the swordcuck fears the QVEEN
Any earth rite effect should remove the spellboost of all cards in your hand holy shit
>>532237117Dingirsu the orcust of the evening star?
Sure go for it
>>532236972They keep getting wiped because they demand an answer and doesn't give sword free tempo to just Evo Albert for 12 damage face
>>532237101They have enough early game now and you can just play norman on 6 to heal for 8.
I grinded for the chests earlier today with aggro and won against Rune everytime because they didn't draw Norman but had they drawn him on 6 and healed I would have run out of steam and lost.
Ward haven would be better if it cheated like artifact by putting in play copies of the cards
>>532236908Can your opponent see your full deck lists or just the crafts of the decks before making the choice? I don't own any haven cards but I could bring some autofill trash just as a fake out to make forestpedos play something else.
>>532236952>some jp players have regret buying the BP because Silvarius is such a shitty characterKek you love to see it
>>532237127Rose Queen sounded so fun when I opened her day 1
Too bad Roach existed
>>532236952>fat ugly haven bishop guywould buy
>>532237265I'm assuming they can't see the decklist. You submit your decklists in-game.
>>532237429I guess I'm bringing autofill haven as my second deck, then.
pekora got banned for account sharing
>>532237235if they made aether for rune her SEvo would have given barrier instead of 0/+2
>>532236810He knows people will buy it just for the resources. Your only hope is If the japs get mad, then he'll start giving us something better.
>>532236952Boy!Aenea isn't that bad.
Good god I get demolished by puppets as abyss aggro any tips?
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>>532237557Play Abyss midrange
>>532237557no tips for you, it's a hard counter
Starting to think this guys sworddick is just shit.
>>532237557Simply stop fighting puppets
>>532236952Surely they can't keep doing that.
>>532237557Puppet is made for destroying aggro basically.
I'm straight but I would slobber all over Nio's cock and drain my balls into his cute pink butthole
The one who wears the mask is the Good Youngster!
The one who wears the mask is the Forest Guardian.
The one who wears the mask is the Royal Knight.
The one who wears the mask... is me!
The one who wears the mask is the Dragon Harpist.
The one who wears the mask is the Sorcerer of Death.
The one who wears the mask is the Disciple of the Inquisition.
The one who wears the mask is the Engineer of Relics.
>>532236810I like the BP leader, even if he's a fraud jobber...
Why trade there? That's a losing play. Just go face and pray you draw albert.
Lilianthem would've been game but I guess he really wanted to play around the singleton Centaur
>>532237817OUR HEROES... and a femboy twink messing around with artifacts.
>>532237817I like these weirdos. It's like a sentai of 8 people
I haven't seen dragon at all while grinding chests what happened?
swordbros, we were supposed to be tier 0...
>>532238007The meta happened
>>532237817Can't wait for the inevitable legendary retrains
>>532238007You'll see them mostly in emerald and topaz.
THIS IS THE ONE, SWORDBROS
What 3 drops need to exist in the game for Aether to be good?
>>532238007culled when ward haven didnt perform
Why didn't he just play mid range... He likes face sword that much?
>5pp 11/11 ward deal 3 to an enemy follower
And "people" say Rune isn't the petcraft.
>>532238116https://www.youtube.com/live/MiSdOBPAIb0?si=Wceb6RYKpe96mDZx
https://www.youtube.com/live/k-bsC49TPlY?si=Rr-i7Eo2b6DgyYTZ
>>532238181If he survives yes
>>532238181Yes if gundam doesn't kill him on play
>>532238141It's not even real face sword. This isn't working at all. Without Amelia you run out of resources but he is trading constantly so he can't even finish with Odin, centaur, or Albert.
>>532238141The goal isn't to win they each have each other's deck lists. They're exploring the match up of these decks under realistic conditions and aggro sword is more successful than midsword right now
>>532237495Imagine if lapis had aura
>sword going 2nd with Zircona is balanced
Sure buddy
>>532238276Yeah, Spicies just run out of resources by turn 10 if he doesn't win by then
>9 match winstreak with homebrew midrange abyss
>get broken by aggro abyss
is it a bad matchup?
>>532238385I love it when they tell me she's just a brick
>>532238363would still be 8pp do nothing
>>532238406You'll need to bring all the heal to counter Aggro, which includes adding Yuna and hoping you draw her for the bats
>>532238562I'll try yuna, I dont have charon either cause I just slap whatever I have into the deck
>>532238276Can't go face with the threat of norman just healing/golem up, need a somewhat sizable board
>>532238385>Use coin turn 1 on the 2-drop gold princess and get a 3/3 ward+bane turn 2>Evo Zirconia turn 4>All of this before they even start dropping Gildarias, Luminous, etc.Swordbabs have it so easy
>Ward Hag: dollfucker after dollfucker
>switch to Bugs: perfect curve Hag ward
Where did I put my Luck bag?
>wills Gildaria into his hand
Pretty sure first is preferred by both players in this match up like 90% of high level match ups
>>532238598does maito play sword with magus?
>>532237235aether pulling from deck is way better than putting copies of card because aether also thin your deck
>>532238562>>532238638Yuna is kinda ass because the bat fuck with Cerb. Might as well run ceres for guaranteed heal
>>532238406If you're playing a very top heavy version of midrange yes
You can solve this lethal puzzle, right, anon?
>>532238638Some midrange is trying out the 2 bat spell. Your Cerb will tank but at least those bats will divert their attention
>>532238598royal downplayers?
>>532238865He summons Betas and you die next turn?
>>532238865Attack face with wards, sevo Sarissa, play dingdong or cleric, cum cup, attack with Sarissa.
>>532239020Haven has lethal here, anon.
>>532238598I kinda expected higher winrates for non mirrors.
>>532238865hit face with wards dingdong sevo sarissa cum chalice the board hit with sarissa
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if you want me to play haven then give me the other leggos as well
>>532238598downplayerbros, i need assistance
>>532238865Sevo rabbit wards go face summon ward cum chalice bunny goes face with extra stats
>>532239084I like you more as an abyss guy.
>>532238865Wards go face, play ding dong, rabbit supers, Chalice, rabbit swings for 11
>>532239101Sword is biggest and most unfun to play against cancer two seasons in a row. Who would've thought.
>>532238684It's just 1 card so I would rather risk it. Maybe it could still work out if you draw Odin, banish the norman, and hit face for 7.
>>532239101Reminder that all the portal and rune shitflinging comes from swordbabs.
>Master runefag tries to sagelight boardwipe with no dirt
Most hard carried players in the game.
AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>532239101Bro... Your 3pp William?
>>532239407WELCOME TO THE RUNE GAUNTLET, ANON!
>>532238687I was with you until you mentioned Luminous, that card is so bad I would drop it for even the ninja man
>>532239407Just for e there myself any itโs fucking nothing but sword. Literally 7 straight games of sword for me
>>532239407Enjoy playing against exclusively sword and rune from now on.
So what were the results of the dirt vs aggro sword demo matches?
>>532239652What even happened to the artifact babs. It's mostly sword and rune in diamond but sometimes I encounter puppet but not artifact. I really thought artifact would be broken this set.
>>532239690Nah, he keeps bricking
>>532239746takes too long
>>532239746Every single matchup got worse except roach and roach is gone too
>>532239746Artifact loses to all flavours of rune, midrange sword, and midrange abyss.
Why even bother at that point?
Man, he won but dirt drew every expensive card in the deck at the end
>>532239746the burn is just too slow and the gundamn on t10 is so easily countered
>>532239941It's that easy
>opp having an empty board confuses swordbab
>>532239407>B2oh no you have to face 10th percentile players instead of 8th
>>532237817I don't even know who is the Mask for Abyss since I never see them.
>>532240014misshapen, tiny catears
>diamond group
>all sword with some portal
what should I play for this? I want to keep at it with ward but it's always skating by the early game and then sword finds some bullshit that I can't clear or they odin my wilbert
>>532239746Artifact is mid as fuck this set.
>>532239742still not over but dirt has a slight to good advantage, with no preference for first vs second. when it becomes known that grimnir is good in dirt the mu will skew a bit more in favor of dirt
>>532239746the best tool it got is a extremely conditional draw 1 lol, go figure
>please, use me as you see fit
How would you use Vuella, /svg/?
Ronavero is fun and I want Haven to get more ambush darkies.
>Drop out of diamond
>Suddenly get to see other crafts that aren't just rune and sword
>>532240247Fun thing I learned in a match: Icarus can stack. Opposing artifact player put three of the damn things on an alpha along with the ward thing and basically just stalled me out for a fucking age. I won eventually but it must have taken like half an hour and he went through basically his entire deck.
>>532235097wait this fucking piece of shit get to choose his evo too?
>>532240387make her introduce me to yuna
>>532240185Is grimnir even that good? He doesn't help get to the strong 4 mana plays consistently and only makes the already strong norman turns a bit better
why is she a sword spell now
Took me 15 games to get all 5 chests today
What's the average?
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>>532240465While funny, doing that is shit and basically only ever happens when they're hard bricked.
>>532240387I'd use her to very efficiently trade with 2 drops or rarely as a late game damage push with her sevo boost. Very occasionally she can let an Olivia play push a lot of unexpected damage through, but it rarely lines up right.
>>532240625Swordniggers cheat and steal, it's the only thing they do.
>>532240625Sword needs it.
>>532239746it folds to t5 Nono/Anne into t6 Norman+2 barrier golem no matter what, even with two bullet
l just hard mull for Norman against them as dirt, and spellboost can do the same
I played AF last week, and lost to t6 Norman so many times that I decided to join the winning team
>>532240542he is, dirt is great at battling a few tall followers but if you present wide boards it will squander resources inefficiently. grimnir is a very compact and low opportunity cost way to help with that
>>532240638There are at least 2 games in there that he shouldn't have won tbqh
>aggro sword 4-6 against unlimited ward rune
either this sword autist is really really good or I am a real shitter, probably the later
are there any good control decks
>>532240660wait, if he keeps it in hand and keeps summoning it, does he get to draw 3 everytime???? BROKEN!!!!!
>>532240787Control abyss. It runs 20 legendaries though, so you might have to swipe to make it.
>>532240653I thought cygame would balance him somewhat with the risk of overheal or overdraw, this one's on me for having hope
would KMR be a genius to have a discard effect where it triggers the discarded cards fanfare
>>532240763They're both pros. The skill ceiling of the game in general is much higher than it gets credit for
>>532240881the way to balance him is to make him unplayable in Spellboost
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oh nononono
>>532240796Yeah, but it literally isn't possible for them to spend their cards fast enough. Its a draw 3 once and then immediately starts burning 2~4 off the top of their deck every turn.
>>532240996I joined once but they were all looking at their phone
>>532240996it should be the default lobby and it should send me there as soon as i open the game
otherwise i'm never going to remember to go there to queue up for rank
>>532240763Before I started watching some anon said he lost a game because he missclicked. And I saw spicie win a game because Dirt bricket and left a board of 2/2 alive. Overall seems like a very bad match-up.
>>53224083520? Seems like a weird number, what does it run at 2? I'm assuming it's 3 copies of every single abyss lego and 3 olivia and... 2 odin?
Honestly the balance of the game is complete cancer
>>532240763Sword has a low skill floor (so a newer player can do well with it), but it still has a pretty high skill ceiling.
Barely dodged a 50 turn duel, thank you Cerb.
>>532241267I've been using this list: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGbXLGi2Fow
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you got your leader already right bros...?
>>532241332>Shadowtards were downplaying nuEachtarlol
What do you keep in your mull as Dirtboost Rune? Feels like every starting hand is kinda bad.
>>532241342I'm 2 wins off.
>>532241420of course that dishonest fraud would use AI to help him in battle
>>532240881Anon you don't understand it was an emergency!! Rune was LOSING last set to aggro so they NEEDED a 6pp 7/7 body heal 4 or 8 that creates one or two 3/3 wards with barrier. There was no other alternative, this was the best their most elite Japanese minds could come up with.
>>532241342Why the fuck would I buy the BP to get the worst person imaginable as a leader? Frankly I'll buy the BP when they put a leader I actually fucking want on it.
>>532241342I'm like 5 wins away from it but I would never replace Marie. She is the cutest leader in the game.
>>532241342Lmk when the BP leaders stop being complete homo garbage.
>>532241498i just wanted to see silvarius emote game
it's pretty meh
>>532241598you didn't play the story, did you
>>532241635He is cool. The question of "What happens to a hero with no monster to slay" is a fun one.
>ใใฃใจๅฏๆใใชใใชใใกใ!
she is so cute bros
I spam emotes as I drop healing Norman against aggro abyss.
they've been retiring soon after with 100% rate so far.
>>532241518>want to buy BP because that is the only way I can get 3500 vial and 20 roll (10+5000)>the leader is trashiest person imaginable so I'm boycotting because KMR must be getting off punishing his customer.
>>532240996I visited the lobby once and it was full of people crowding around knockout table and doing nothing else
I assumed all those spectators fucked off to twitch streams now
Needing to scrap spellboost for healing seems very unfun so in the next expansion we will give spellboost their own heals. One that gets its cost reduced to 0 and one that costs 1pp and heals based on the amount you have spellboosted and heals at minimum 2.
>>532241582call me when she develops personality beyond muh tsumi
>>532241751Is the story actually worth reading
>>532241751Now I understand why they summoned Nips to do hero job.
lore of the 3 new leaders in the new set
>Aether
her only purpose is instant loss bait
you play her and are forced to watch as she gets spitroasted by ginsetsu and yuzuki
>Titania
wants to capture Daria and keep her in her sex fairy dungeon alongside the elf queen
>Filene
she's your daughter so stop looking at her feet you weirdo
>>532241890I thought it was decent. The pacing isn't very good, but it has a few cool plot points.
>>532241890they are enjoyable stories about the default leaders, that's it. nothing super kino but still enjoyable to me
>>532242040>you play her and are forced to watch as she gets spitroasted by ginsetsu and yuzukiHot.
>Abyss mirror vs aggro
>Brick the hardest I ever have in my life, including two Olivias, and reshuffling a Darkseal Demon only to immediately draw a second a copy
>He draws 2 Odins perfectly on curve
This game pisses me the hell off sometimes
They better fucking add her as a leader in the next expansion. Literally both of her cards placed second in the popularity poll and they skipped over her to add the gay ass dog that took third.
Why does sword have such a shit draw...
>>532242191dont worry bro when she arrives shes gonna look like shit
>>532241890Dreizehn's is. Diawl's is written like shit and has fewer rewards too. Guess only big tittied women are allowed to have good writing.
>>532242212play haven if you want shit draw
>>532242279It's the opposite.
>farming rank with aggro blood
>keep getting promoted to diamond where it's swordbab central
Fine, I'll switch to Rune KMRl
Won 12/15 games today sisters I did good
>>532242212>has amelia>complains about shit drawoh fuck off
>>532242212Just play the new spell bwo
>>532242279I actually thought Diawl had a better story than Dreizehn. 13 was an annoying moping piece of shit the entire story and the story was just a boring AI takeover cliche without any kind of interesting spin on it. Diawl's story didn't annoy me nearly as much and the story was a bit more original.
>>532242279Dreizhen's is literally just Matrix except human was completely extinct.
Why did they give a cute girl like her such a shitty card? I mean, just compare it to the sword dogs.
>>532242040First aether is medusa food unless it pulls sarissa next aether is the ginsetsu food to truly mind break them.
>>532242117>merchant>is evil
>>532242494Because she's a furry card but not part of the actual furry expansion
>>532240796yes it's kind of funny winning the game while milling 12 cards from your deck (not that it matters)
>>532242494She's better than dogs as a 3 drop
what should I mull for as abyss? is a third Odin and ginsetsu needed?
What does it feel like to be turned into a Fairy?
>>532241751they should learn to code
>>532242634You generally don't want to keep anything above 5 cost in your starting hand.
>>532242642you will feel an irresistible urge to sit on that giant flower with teeth and lots of tentacles coming out of it
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>>532242212What more could you want?
>>532242705It depends I always keep Cerb unless I'm against aggro.
>>532242634Aragravy is a keep. Try to get a proper curve
>>532242332>>532242458>>532242471Dreizehn's story is way more cohesive with fewer plot issues IMO. Diawl's had one cool moment with the whole "reveal everyone's eyes" thing and that's it. Diawl himself has no goals, no motivation, and was arguably the least interesting character in the entire story. Pacing wasn't great either. I think it starts strong, but someone stopped caring halfway through
>>532242191Sorry bro. They're going full loot next set with Barbaros as the other lego and leader.
>>532242851I'd only do that if I have both a ghastly soiree and a 5 drop in addition to the cerb to make sure my early game works out.
Bros, when these retarded chests go away? I lost all my desire to play because of scripted losses.
>>532242212You sacrifice draw and heals in exchange for the most busted do everything followers in the game
If you want to draw play rune
>>532243148Until the 10th and then I think they're doing that portal/rune/dragon splatfest.
>Forest
>Haven
>Dragon
If you don't have at least 100 wins in your profile with one of these class, your opinion doesn't matter
>>532242898Copy pasted gachawhore with a basic ass story isn't any better.
People are just blinded because they got the heckin scifi genshin whore to look at.
Oh noooes machines make everyone happy by digitizing them BECAUSE MUH SOUL IN THE MACHINE I WILL WIN.
The whole mist and monsters being farmed by a lunatic for generations is much cooler and much more unique.
Diawl doesn't have a goal because he reached it already.
>>532242798This probably isn't even that bad vs rune, portal, and forest since they're often sitting on 8 cards anyway.
>>532242898>Diawl himself has no goals, no motivationHis goal before the twink takeover was revenge against the Sunrise and Silvarius, he had already killed the 3rd captain and would have hunted the doc and jew loli at some point if they hadn't tried to kill him first
>>532242898Not them but after Nioโs part, dreizehn story sucks ass. Terrible antagonists, and Eudie (forma de gun) also got annoying too
What legendary do you want for your main next set?
>>532243525My only issue with the story is those two trying to solo the raid boss. Maybe they should have added a myth like "Whoever defeated the Miasma King shall be given eternal life", which would prompt them to try the solo endeavour.
Then there's Finneas
>let's fight the source of pestilence with the power of pestilenceLike what the fuck?
>>532242634Keep Aragavy when going second, otherwise you want to curve out generally. Ghosts do help vs Sword though.
>>532243718Haven main please understand
>>532243559Zebet and/or Lord of the Flies
>>532243549>Eudie (forma de gun)Is this a joke about same VA?
Do you get any gold for skipping through the story
artifact is fucking unplayable im getting shit on by everything
>>532243863yes 1000 gold for winning the single match you gotta play (against a retard)
>>532243148You know if you lose, you'll get a chest in the next match until you win.
It's literally just more rewards for playing the game, I don't understand why people dislike this.
>>532243863yes, I skipped through all of the story. You have to do a battle or two.
>>532243718>My only issue with the story is those two trying to solo the raid boss.Same.
They built them up and then they just go "I'll solo it - lol clapped".
For both of them it would have made more sense to turn on Silvarius to claim the town and lose that way.
>Play 2 lilanthim
>Pray every game to draw her by turn 7 or 8
>Don't draw her
>No wincon
I wish I had a 3rd copy....
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>>532243559My wife. Unfortunately we probably aren't getting her until the obligatory RoB set.
This little guy won me so many games in SV1. You can't ignore this 2drop. The opponent had to use removal or else the damage would get out of control really fast. I think Mushussu is too slow for Worlds Beyond (with how fairies have rush and so on), so I'm eager to see how they update him.
i don't know what deck to go for i just started playing aaaaaaa
>>532243984Give him Aura.
>>532243984Post the Bahamut webm.
>>532243559OTOHIME SAMA RETURN TO SWORD
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>>532243984Mainyu is the closest thing we have to a snowballing 2 drop for shadowverse 2
>>532244065Intimidate would be better
>>532244025unless you whale your decks are decided by your legendary pulls
>>532244090Otohime now only has sex with dragons, swordcuck.
>>532240625Abyss still has that card, it's Vlad. No one plays it.
>>532244216Vlad can't hit face, which makes him useless.
>>532243559He will save dirt
>>532244238meme cards are sovl
>>532244238If only we had a bloodshift.
Something something:
18pp
Reduce the cost of this card by how much hp you are missing from full hp
Take an extra turn after this one
So you could OTK if you were at 2hp.
>>532244225https://svgdb.me/assets/audio/jp/vo_3304_000_008_0.mp3
bannkanohouou or phoenix of all colors
>>532243925>have ~70% wr>suddenly shitty chest with crumbs of currency>6 losses in a rowAnd it's not a one time thing. This event is pure cancer.
Chest events get a little bit more tolerable when you grind for the gold chest and stop for the day after
How long is the grind from A to Master
>>532244067https://p.fuwafuwa.moe/xjhasf.webm
>>532244651Master is 100k rp, do the math yourself.
I switched to Artifact Portal and ranked down all the way to Topaz.
>>532244672Perfect, thanks, anon.
>>532244719Many such cases
>>532244158okay what can i build with these?
Aren't his abilities a bit too strong for one dirt cost?
>open my alt I use for the weekly friendly mission
>opens a legendary from the park chest
>main get fucking nothing
I shouldn't have opened
>>532245009How many vials do you have? Press auto-liquefy.
>>532234736>SkullfaneHow the fuck? Gamble that you get 3 winged statues on board?
>>532245027Yes! Do you like?
>>532245027If he costed more then spellboost wouldn't be able to use him and then they'd get run down by all the aggro decks.
>>532244719i switched to this and have won 13/19 in AA3 diamond so far. not pictured is 3x flight of icarus, 3x ironheart hunter, 3x artifact recharge. you will probably lose if you queue into rune because this game is trash and matchups between decks are all 70/30.
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>>532238116freddybabes because i'm still nostalgic for gwent beta. he really likes shadowba so far so im hoping he does well in the coming tournaments
>>532245140God forbid you can't seamlessly blend together two conflicting archetypes without worrying about some kind of drawback.
>>532244719god i wish that were me
i need some deranking to make chest farming bearable
shit is fucking cancer in diamond, sword and rune as far as the eye can see
>>532243441>People are just blinded because they got the heckin scifi genshin whore to look at.I actually like Diawl's design way, way more than Dreizehn's. Not into gachashit in the first place (inb4 "why are you playing this"). I just think his story was handled poorly.
>The whole mist and monsters being farmed by a lunatic for generationsSilvarius' thing was pretty good, yeah.
>Diawl doesn't have a goal because he reached it already.Which isn't great for what was supposed to be his character intro instead of just a standalone story. Not to mention he was totally unbothered by losing all of his souls other than "that's sad I guess". All that power of friendship spiel for nothing.
>>532243549I liked Eumenides/Eudie/06 when she cut the whole
>Iโm sorry, but as an AI language model, I do not have the ability to feel emotionsbullshit that we could see being a lie from the start. That dragged on too long. She was fine outside of it.
>>532243718>My only issue with the story is those two trying to solo the raid boss.I don't think they had any idea of how powerful he actually was. Finneas mentioned that Silvarius actively tells them nothing important, and Finneas has spent years absolutely no diffing every mist monster he fought. They were just high on their own farts and thought they powerful enough to do it. There were other plot holes though, I just don't want to ramble
>>532245164But doesn't this beat dirt decks without dimension
I actually liked playing haven in the first set, but this set is making me think of changing craft. Haven is even weaker in this set than the last.
>>532243559It's time to release her from jail. She has served her time for her crimes.
>>532243383If you put them, can they survive next turn?
>>532245140That would be the point yes
>>532245306for sure, i guess i should specify spellboost but that's the only rune i see.
>>532243383>opponent plays odin+super evolves for lethal
>>532245214That's after auto-liquefy? I guess your least bad option is running budget midrange abyss with 3x Cerberus as your only legendaries in the deck until you get more resources. You'll need to run a bunch of crappy bronzes and silvers as substitute cards in the meantime.
>>532245261Whenever you see a post like that, just assume it's some salty swordbab that's mad that someone dared go above 12 hp.
>>532245140wow what a shame
>Odin
>Odin
>Odin
>Odin
>Odin
wow sure is healthy for every single deck to want him or have him be a viable option. sure is great. love that mandatory legendary. woweee thank you cygames for more storm bullshit. I can't wait for the arms race where more cards have to be printed to deal with things like this, then more cards are printed to deal with those.
>>532244238Man, I remember when this thing first dropped any people were overhyping it.
>>532245498I play Abyss and I am rather annoyed that Norman single handedly turned a good matchup into a damn near impossible one
>>532245164Man I really don't want to craft Karula...
Crafted mr sword yesterday, today's ladder full of artifact subhumans. Switched to aggro abyss, 3 puppetniggers and 1 mr sword. Switched to sb rune, it's aggro abyss and aggro sword. How fucking scripted is this fucking game?
>>532245437Yeah, Which banner should I roll on?
>>532245581CAbyss has a pretty decent matchup against Rune though, you can grind out the Satan deck.
>>532243559https://svgdb.me/assets/audio/jp/vo_105641010_1.mp3
Her nerfs were unfair. And I mean both the art nerf and the mechanical nerf.
>every other craft has a ton of intermingling between their archetypes
>only Rune is expected to only use cards from one archetype
>>532245675>Grind out SatanI play 2 0pp Demonic Shikigami use Kuon's enhance and they're OTKed. Nice grinding out abyssbabs.
>>532245653Either is fine desu. All current decks want cards from both and you're missing cards from both.
>>532245675Yeah I don't play CAbyss, I dislike it. I played a deep draw, burn focused one last format and now I can just play proper aggro. Spell Rune (in theory) shouldn't be beating aggro anyway.
Bros, is it just me or does this set feel....fun? This is the most fun I've had playing shadoba in years.
How does Rose actually works?
>>532245819pray for me artifact bro, I place my trust in artifact (I dont have karula)
>>532245325She was already pardoned in sv1
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>>532243559>https://svgdb.me/assets/audio/jp/vo_105641010_1.mp3
SV1 Senpai, how do you do this?
https://x.com/Sefie26noa/status/1947162378099196158
>>532245617Maybe just stick with 1 deck ?
>>532245174>turn 4 19/19Just what rune needs to be saved
>>532243559Otohime and Vampy, and with how much bat support and sea dragon support there is they both seem guaranteed.
>>532245819HAHAHAHA 9PP DO NOTHING
>>532245898surely they will nerf runeโฆ they have toโฆ
>>532245941now this is real unlimited. game ended before evo turns
>>532246029every control abyss "good matchup" aside from haven is just the other player getting bored and losing interest. what a joke of a deck.
why aren't puppets allowed to do anything before turn 8
If they were balanced like rune, they'd have a 5pp that gives the effect "when a puppet is destroyed do 1 damage to the leader"
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>>532245498No.
>>532245675How do you grind out the satan deck when even the hardest earth leaning deck is still spellboosting dshift?
>>532245910i'd never in my life would've guessed that voice from the picture
>>532245756It still threatens the same Cerb lethals as midrange.
>>532245812CAbyss has healing, both with the new legendary and they're using that 2pp 3/3 as a Charon drop that they can use to heal if need be.
>>532245860Spellboost was capable of beating aggro by highrolling even before the healing if they could Anne/Grea+Destroyer on Turn 5 to threaten lethal. That and it runs so much damn removal that they could just remove threats and win before the new set gave aggro a lot more damage from hand.
>>532245997Don't forget, turn that Bane into STORM as well!
>>532246164I dont know why he posted that but the audio is Carabosse.
>>532246164That's because it's not the right character. The voice is Carabosse. Look her up.
>>532246121What are you talking about? Puppets are cancer to play against
I've been doing so bad ever since set-2 released. I used to get free-win playing Artifact Portal, but I am having a hard time adapting to the new Portal deck. But also I decided now is the time to split my focus and learn how to play D.Climb instead (like I have wanted to since launch but couldn't afford it) but the D.Climb deck I built doesn't have some of the dirt pieces (I have x0 Norman's), so I am playing budget D.Climb. I spent all my vials on x3 Karula assuming I was going to keep playing Artifact Portal, and I regret it. Oh well, it is what it is.
>>532246110That's not true a portalbab once tried to play the grind game with me only to lose to deckout. I bet he felt good wasting 25 mins of his life just to die in the lamest way possible.
>>532243559Omen of 10 is confirmed as next set. Lishenna will make puppet great again!
>>532246121why aren't puppets allowed to clear the board for free and also do face damage for free why why why
>>532243559Give abyss Lishenna or Nahtnaught
>>532243559Next set is omens which already kills the hype since 80% of their designs are shit.
>>532246146>How do you grind out the satan deck when even the hardest earth leaning deck is still spellboosting dshift?By having so many ways of removing followers, whether it's the bane ghosts, medusa, the 9pp do nothing, or reaper's slash. You can set up ward walls with zombies or with the 9pp do nothing too. Anything that sticks on board threatens to deal massive damage with Cerb buffing it so Abyss can force Rune to blow evos earlier in the match, something like Medusa demands removal too. If you get rid of the Satan+DClimb+10pp card OHKO by burning rune's super evos then you can grind them out.
>>532246431Otherwise you automatically lose to do nothing control decks.
>>532246431because their games regularly go turbo long with 0 evo points on either side and they already beat aggro for free so they can afford to lug around 10pp dead weight to win topdeck wars
>>532246121because you niggers can clear board without evo
SCALPEL
when will they buff odin?
>Get absolutely perfect lamp hand
>Dragonsign Dragonsign Liu feng Liu feng Hochan
>Coin
>Die to aggro by turn 5 anyways
Lamp is never going to be a viable archetype huh
>>532246470Izudia is awesome though.
>>532246526They should give him some kind of strong accelerate effect so he's not a brick in the hand early on.
>>532246431cause compared to artefact portal once they've run out of evo points their damage completely falls off so puppet puts satan in their deck if they somehow havent won with orchis+liam by then
>>532246470Don't insult this design.
>>532246558that's not a perfect ramp hand dumbass. you need to play merman.
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>>532246627rune is going to be so broken
I will never pull this off in a higher group tier (just a ruby)
>>532246526He should have 1 extra attack for every puppet you've played in the game.
>>532246558No shit if you do nothing for 3 turns while you jerk off your lamp you'll lose to aggro. A good starting hand against aggro is very different from a good starting hand against a slow deck.
>>532246470I have a feeling I know who the 20% are...
>>532246325>Omen of 10Can't wait for my Highlander memes.
>>532246608I think he should get 3 more banishments on sevo, and maybe a cost reduction to 5pp to be worth it. That or give him +2 attack. He's too weak currently and nobody runs him.
>mukan into charon
>charon spawns foxes and dogs
>clear the entire board for free
holy
>>532246470I can't wait for Gilnelise to be a 2pp heal 6 4/4 so rune can have even more healing.
>>532246470is abyss just gonna get 2 omens or is one of them getting taken out back and shot
>>532246789Gilnelise will probably be a 3x autoinclude in every deck (even in aggro, for the mirror), inflating deck costs even further.
>>532246262>>532246358>>532246517>board clear so good in a game where board clear is free and rampantwow my hand is full of 1pp pings amazing what a hand, I can almost take out the board luminous mage shat out!
>>532246197Well highrolling sure, it happens. In general though Abyss was favorable though because it had a lot of burn and burst damage. It has even more of both bow but Norman coming out to undo multiple turns of work is ass. Meanwhile Haven's healing is thoroughly mediocre funny enough
>>532246883There's another option:
Rulenye and Valnareik
10pp whatever statline
Fanfare: do nothing
So is the "Basic" set the cards that are permanently staying?
>>532245164My deck looks exactly like yours and I keep losing, can you give me the rundown on the gameplan against each class? feels like I'm a bit lost on what to do besides Beta spamming.
wait neptune crest also works on otohime body guard
>>532243406But literally all of them are from the first set, I have not played Dragon ONCE this set. I mostly blame my pulls though, I've pulled exactly zero Feetlene and Ho-chans.
>>532246526give odin +1 attack for each thing you've banished this game
>>532247107Yeah the bodyguard is also a fish.
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>>532246910bro wtf is this
Why are there missions to play followers and spells but no amulets
>>532246431You can kill with Astaroth if you super evo a puppet
>>532247020The thing with Basic is that most of them are just average at best and will eventually be replaced with set cards
>>532243406lmao judging by all the whining babbys ITT rune should be number 1
>>532247230Average completely balanced and fair sword card
>>532247190man too bad the rest of the cards you need will get burned anyways
>>532247230A good card. The one to play it first wins. Isn't it tanoshii?
Being able to engage dirt for stacks was a massive mistake
>>532246990Haven's new heal 10 is being slept on a bit since the crest doesn't stack. If you can heal other ways(the amulets, safela, etc) then even with 1 being played it can extend your life so you can stabilize. The new orca dragon with Neptune heals a surprising amount too.
>>532247230That was from the second Gilnelise, which came out late in the power creep of SV1. We'll probably get something more similar to the first Gilnelise.
>wanna play the game but already 5/5'd the chest
>open game
>close game
why am I like this
>>532247230You get that card at 10pp iirc. Also personally, i liked OG Gil better than NU Gil
>>532247230Tanaka-san got REALLY pissed that games made it to turn 10.
>>532247198Nice work anon
>>5322474157 hours until reset. Just be patient.
>>532247230If you want a fun fact when ramp was sort of decent at the same time when that card was around they avoided ramping too much in the mirror match. Since that card invokes itself if your opponent has 10pp.
>>532247084vs sword you can lose randomly to zirconia, otherwise you wings gamma and just play it over and over, they'll need to use evos/sevos clearing it + orchis. abyss you wings alpha even vs control and they just can't win. puppet you try to outgrind with wings alpha but also just lose to noah orchis orchis like everyone does. vs forest is the same alpha ralmia strategy from last set, you're probably just fucked if they lymaga you and I bet this matchup sucks if they run her. rune you just rush betas and pray, bad matchup. in mirror you ideally rush down with betas but if you're slower you need to try to outgrind with alphas, if you're slower and they have wings and you don't you probably just lose.
I'm still bad at the deck, that's what I've figured out so far.
>>532247415Worst 'event' by a mile. I dont understand how an incentive to play ranked actively makes me play less
I make sure to always let my follower complete their entry/evolve line when I'm hitting for lethal
>>532246470>only one cute girlgrim
every single dragon I fight always has orca at turn 2, dragonsign at turn 3, mermaid at 5pp
I then play the deck and just brick
>>532245812Does that do 20?
>>532247895Only if the opponent has a follower SE Kuon can kill
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>>532247420>liked OG Gil better than NU Gilthis is worse than cerberus
I'm so used to sword always always having zirconia on curve that when they don't and play some other bullshit I find myself lost and confused. I also usually win those games. Zirconia is kind of an OP tempo swing, isn't she? God forbid there be a single fucking card on that board when she comes down.
Sadame no agito tachikiranu (x2)
>>532248043She's an Eachtar with ambush and drain. What more could you possibly want?
>>532248136Her to buff the board every turn
What was the best event SV1 ever had?
>>532247949Isn't it 17 how do you get 9 from 2 33s
>>532247361If haven was stronger then maybe. Haven has to already work overtime clearing boards and trying to shit out damage somehow and has no time to play 2pp deal 10dmg to yourself later card.
>>532243148brown assholes...
I wonder if cygays legitimately didn't think of coc astaroth+dclimb. What a horseshit way to make control be dictated by one deck
why are puppetniggers the biggest whiners?
>>532248435If rune got to turn 10 with super evo you deserve to lose
dirtbros hows the deck looking like im tired of lamps pachinko machine playstyle
>>532248435I would put money on the reason that super evo pings for 1 is because they wanted that exact thing to exist.
>>532248435if it makes you feel better, also rune bursts you from 14 with call into kuon
>>532248168No. Didn't matter if she did or not, because if you played her, you most likely were ending the game. The ambush and drain were just nice, flexible bonuses to have when the need came up.
Sevo should be nerfed, removing the 1 face ping when you destroy an enemy follower. This would fix a lot of issues with the game.
So what's the lore behind masters rank getting 100x the grp? why is it such a drastic increase?
>>532248693reward your loyal playerbase
Orchis should summon Victoria instead of Lloyd
>>532248775Why not both? Zwei with storm as well.
Does Midrange Abyss run Odin or Olivia?
>>532248693>why is it such a drastic increase?How else do you expect to clear this as a group of 30.
>>532248693idk what it is but there's no way it's 100x
that'd mean my guild's master players barely play the game compared to the rest of us
>>532248885Depends on the list.
>>532248693So a guild of old players can get S without trying but one of one dude and his alts can't
control abyss has no wincon
>>532248048the funny part is swordbabs freaking out when cards like alouette or annegrea can clear zirconia when the game literally ends if a class can't clear zirconia
>>532244451Yeah, that's clearly what abyss needs, because it's too weak right now. True. Real. Factchecked by real Lunas.
>>532248889That isn't nearly as much as it looks like. They'll probably increase it again for set 3.
>>532248947It's closer to 20-30x.
>>532246345>>532245910>>532246164This is her voice.
https://svgdb.me/assets/audio/jp/vo_117631020_1.mp3
https://svgdb.me/assets/audio/jp/vo_117631020_2.mp3
https://svgdb.me/assets/audio/jp/vo_117631020_5_1.mp3
https://svgdb.me/assets/audio/jp/vo_117631020_5_3.mp3
>>532248492they think they worked hard winning board early and deserve to win off of it
It's incredibly impressive and amazing how turbo kiked Cygames is. During the game's most critical and important period for establishing good reception and retention, they would rather let one craft utterly dominate the meta for two entire sets than even dare to think about actually making an attempt at correcting and balancing this pile of slop, because it would mean they would have to hand out a few vials.
I got titania leader ticket before I got her card
>>532249020The wincon is Tanaka-san reaching his train stop.
>>532249164The game is fine. You are just bad.
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>>532243559Bring her back
>>532249185it's impossible to play forest without her leader though, unless you pay up for Arisa.
>>532249020Cerb is your wincon and its the decks biggest weakness because you aren't guaranteed to see a single copy.
>>532249020>just had a mirror where I decked out into reaper>10 turns of bitch slapping and he had one card in hand>surely my medusa will live and with a cerb buff she'll get the otk>heeeere's odin
>>532249020it also has no card draw
it is a complete meme
>>532247368bro nu odin is already close to late stage sv1 tier strength
>brick vs portal
>win anyway
Such is the way of the TopazGOD
>>532246470Omens are still better than current cast.
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alright
no
please no
japanoids stop trying to troll people with ramp dragon
stop it
it doesn't work
>>532249237What if you get matched with John Johnson, working from home on a slow day, with a chest on the line instead?
Is Odin the best legendary in the game?
>>5322494103 Olivia, 3 Soiree is all the card draw I need
>>532249476he is nice, but not a cute anime girl
>>532249052100K was the top ranking guildscores during the first set. You are not in a top 30 guild.
>>532249291Titania leader looks like shit because her tits look AI generated, though.
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>>532249603her evo animation is pretty though
>>532249410There are cards you can add that have card draw. You donโt have to follow the netdecks.
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I'm having more fun in SV1 than WB
>>532249459I'm going to lamp ho-chan
why the fuck does norman draw 3 (three) cards
>>532249567And now the top rank is nearly 200k after half a week.
The beginning of Ho-chan's Legend!
>>532249603well forest leader has skin in color of shit, so that's an improvement still.
>>532249472Then you continue until he decks out. Because control abyss has shit draw, he is guaranteed to deck out first.
>>532249164They make sword strong on purpose because it's an easy class so shitters can play and have fun. Since the ward hags are dead, Roach is back again and stronger than ever but the low rank topaz through ruby players aren't going to run into the roaches.
>>532249638yeah you can add seraphic to go up one card while sword is going up 3 cards with amelia, or darkseal demon so you die. or soul conversion which is even worse than seraphic.
>>532249476No, thatโs Gildaria.
Does someone have a video of luna's evolve animations and voice clips?
>>532249476it's hard to rate odin (a nice card to play) alongside cards like orchis, kuon, albert which allow classes/archetypes to function.
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Are we really downplaying CAbyss now?
>>532248653this would unironically kill olivia
>>532248048Aragavy is like the sole reason the Sword matchup is winnable for Aggrobyss
>>532249898>aggro sword tier 3turn out I has been honest this entire time
>>532249898healthy 14 deck meta
>>532249761your 2pp sac a skellington draw 2 spell?
>>532249898>midrange sword>look inside>aggro sword
>>532249761Yikes. Stick to your netdecks.
>>532249898KRM does it again with a balanced 6 deck meta
>>532249164Either something went horribly wrong with play testing, or the idea is to simply let 5 different teams for each craft print overpowered cards and see what happens
>>532249476It depends on how you rate cards - some cards are insane at their best but slightly more situaltional, while some are always great but never insane.
To me, the candidates for second best are Kuon, Norman, Gildaria, Orchis, Aragavy. Dclimb is unquestionably the best card in the game though, and it's not remotely close.
>>532249410you don't need draw when every card you play wipes the board
>>532249898Why is roach still alive? How?
>>532249417That is no where near true. Do you think sv2 Odin is as bad 0pp 4/6 ward that does 30 different things? Because this was a card rune had.
>>532249898d-dragonbros... we aren't even getting carried by being the best aggro deck anymore...
What card can replace Eudie in Puppet Portal?
>>532249984If it doesn't play quickblader it isn't aggro.
Zircona is such a shit card holy shit
Control Abyss shits on Mid sword, not sure why people are even complaining
>win the chest with otohime
>get this from the chest
>>532250080Ward haven cannot beat rune while roach can beat ward haven
>>532249898Ward haven isn't A tier at all, is this old list?
>>532249898>dragon downplayers
>>532250062Oh, i forgot to add odin to this list. It belongs on there obviously
>>532243559Any of the non-story Rivayle originals
>>532249417bro terrorformer is a cheaper odin that can OTK, and he was in fortune hand
>>532250098Yep
>4 PP do nothing transition into 4PP complete brick after normal evos are usedOne of the worst cards in Sword's list even in the previous set
>>532250146wtf I didn't even play it once and it's shit allready?
>/svg/ had retards who thought Odin would be a marginal tech card only in a few decks during the reveal season
It's good to occasionally remind them of how retarded they were and laugh at them.
>>532249898midrange abyss fucking sucks dont get memed on
>>532249919it's horrible
>>532250145I've beaten rune (spellboost) with ward haven multiple times
roach has beaten my ward haven exactly once
>>532249898I barely see forest anymore so I would assume its not that good anymore
>>532249898Dollbro, are we back? But how?
>>532250267To be fair nobody played old odin and it's not that different
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>>532250261It's ironic because other crafts can spam wards better
>>532250098Zirconia is great on the draw and horrid on the play. A pretty miserable card with which to play
>2 ho chans make olivia cost 1 which in turn makes her cost -1
>you can play apollo olivia rule of cocytus in 1 turn
>>532250287i wanna know what that deck is even running
>>532250126spellboost and artifact don't really run odin
don't think roach runs it either but idk what the recent lists copypasted by retards look like
>>532249898nice Odin autofill meta
>>532250267/svg/ was wrong on literally everything in this set.
>>532250351actually looking back uh...yeah it didn't have storm
8pp banish lol
>>532250268...Yeah guys Cabyss is horrible *wink*
>>532250117>Instantly lose the game if they Amelia+Lumi or Amelia before you can 9pp do nothing>Instantly lose the game if they Yurius while you don't have direct removal in hand>Can easily fail to stabilise if you don't have a good early game and then you just dieYeah no, this isn't a one sided matchup. There's a lot of ways for CAbyss to lose.
>>532250392The irony is lost when other crafts can do everything better except playing talismans.
>>532245897same as medusa she instakills the damaged minion without taking retaliation damage
>>5322503952 hoes reduce dao to 2 since it rounds up.
>>532250395Too bad playing ho chan at all means you already lost
>>532250351Nu Odin is more similar to Emeralda than OG Odin and Emeralda went into literally every blood deck until she rotated out.
>>532250513Yup, if the swordโs deck is greedy, itโll be a real grind. Also depends on how many Gildariaโs they draw to answer your tougher boards.
>>532249919It's called mid shadow for a reason
>>532250513>Instantly lose the game if they Yurius while you don't have direct removal in handYou have Odin
You have the two dykes
You have Aragavy if they don't super evo him
You have reaper slash
Stop downplaying
>Can easily fail to stabilise if you don't have a good early game and then you just dieThis applies to sword too and unlike abyss they don't have healing LMFAO
>>532249898Started from the bottom now we here
Where's the norman won't be played in spellboost people now?
i have no idea how people have success with aggro abyss now, i just get shit on when i try it
I finally dropped bonemancer from my Abyss list
Someday sword will have healing and all this bullying will stop
>Play against rune
>they reach 0 cards and no pp
>holy shit maybe I can w-
>0pp dclimb into satan
GO FUCK YOURSELF. Of course you can remove everything I put on the board, can coin into grea turn 4, play another turn 5, and draw every other fucking card in your deck thanks to dclimb to ensure you can draw whichever response you need when you need it. Oh and don't forget how easy it is to splash earth rite heals :)
>>532250635I've lost the lategame grind several times to midrange sword, yeah. Eventually their board vomit can just run you out of answers.
>>532250669>You have Aragavy if they don't super evo himThey literally always sevo Yurius, so this never happens.
>You have the two dykesThey are your only out for Amelia+Lumi and Amalia, so you run out of them pretty quickly.
>You have OdinNot always in hand and you sometimes have to use him on other stuff previously.
I have lost the hand check to Yurius several times in this matchup.
>>532250775I made my own aggro version with some charon and cerb and soiree and I win a lot with it. I think people are not expecting cards in my deck so they don't know how to play around it
>>532250796last word abyss soon trust the plan
>>532250424orchis odin autofill
>>532250796yeah if she was 2pp and only 1 skeleton she would be amazing since she would be reanimated by charon
>>532250775Aggro abyss only really works against sword
>>532250797They're getting healing next set.
>>532250669>The Queen is a bad piece! It can die to a Pawn!Shut up you fucking retard
>>532250775It was only good the first couple days while people were experimenting with greedy decks. It sucks now.
>>532250281People only played forest to metaslave they all swapped to 40 healing rune already
>>532250896That would be great. If they made a card like that, it would definitely be in Abyssโฆ
>>532250884i tried a deck like that before aggro took off and it was pretty good
Janky cards that do random shit are more fun than do everything cards
I don't like the trend of crazy boards being summoned and destroyed, it all feels like the same shit after a while. Started getting really noticeable around evo sword.
>Still complaining about Amelia + Lumi when decks don't even run 3x Lumi anymore
jfc you topaz shitters
>>532250997There's only a handful of pedos who main forest, all the other forest players are just bandwagoning meta slaves.
>>532251078I dropped her completely, she never feels good desu
>>532251032how about random shit that does everything
>>532251078Ohhhh but anon sword can't even clear Haven boards!!! t. /svg/ like a week ago.
FUCK THESE CURSED CHESTS, EVERY TIME THEY SHOW UP I LOSE FIVE GAMES IN A ROW
GO AWAY
>>532251170this piece of shit had cucked me out of so much take 2 it's fucking insane
>>532250775I played it day one and I got teleported to diamond, I tried playing it later and I went straight back to ruby
It just depends on the current meta, I'm sure it'll be good again
>>532249898any decks without optimal draw engine rely on heart of the card
Ginsetsu should be buffed. She should do the other mode on evo.
>>532251078Whoโs complaining? Are you alright there?
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Ward bros...
>>532251147Same Amelia is such a brick
>>532235401>>532235726Maybe just don't expect to "hurr durr play around everything" in an RNG card game? If they have it they have it.
>>532251217>>532251170i remember when it was in meta portal decks for a while
>>532251308Ward haven had to exist so forest would die
>>532251268Literally right above you there are abyss shitters acting like sword still wastes s.evo points on Amelia + anything
>>532251078>Still complaining about machine guns when they mostly use nukes now....
>FOURTH match in a row where I draw an Olivia turn 1
I only have two of her in deck, this is fucking ridiculous. In one match I drew the second turn 2, in another I shuffled her out of my starting hand only to immediately draw her again. This is getting ridiculous, my deck has 7 cards of 6+ cost and I draw almost all of them immediately every game.
>>532251170I slayed so many bahaniggers with this lad
why did ward haven get a tutorial?
>>532251308did gildaria really push ward haven off the ladder?
>>532249695you never use this effect because your hand is too full
>>532251619control abyss did
>>532251485Amalia still autowins the game against abyss if you play her before the abyss player can access 9pp, so the point is moot anyway.
>>532251556the same reason sword has one
they know their players need the extra help
>Play vs rune
>First 4 turns they play 2/2s and stormy blast maybe once or twice to clear shit early
>Then Anne Grea comes out and stalls your shit
>Then Anne Grea comes out and stalls your shit
>Then they play Norman and heal from all your shit earlier
>Then they play Norman again and slop down two 3/3 barriers
>Then they drop william to clear your entire board
>Then they drop william to clear your entire board again + heal for 4
>Then they Satan d climb GG
where's the alleged vulnerability again?
what was the final score in that dirt vs sword set?
>>532249476gildaria, dclimb are better, but he's up there for sure
Is spellboost with earth rite stuff better than pure spellboost?
>>532251485Those donโt look like complaints? Theyโre talking about a matchup and counterplay. Again, are you alright?
>>532251308>haven downplaying
>>532251676Cerberus easily clears Amalia you moron
In most cases even Medusa easily clears her
>dragonsign?
>bottom 3 cards
>ho chan?
>all 3 in hand
>olivia?
>MIA
>merman
>under the sea
>neptune?
>off to neptune
>liu?
>dont know u
>genesis?
>all 3 copies ready in hand by turn 5
>twilight?
>watching twilight with dragonsign as the bottom 6 cards
ah IM READY TO RAMP
good morning
which class are we downplaying today?
>>532251795>Sword's single worst matchup is still 40% winrate>Swordbabs will still downplay
midrange abyss is tier 0.
>>532251808they have to be good to do that
Guess what deck I am using.
>meet forest
>surrender turn 1
>meet portal artefact
>surrender turn 5
>meet abyss
>surrender turn 5
>meet sword
>surrender turn 5
>meet dragon
>lost in turn 6
>meet rune
>happy and win
>meet heaven
>happy. 50/50 win
>>532251850Same as every single day, rune and sword.
>>532251619Probably. The issue with ward haven vs sword matchup is that haven isn't that sword can clear t7 aether on an empty board because it can't. It's that the board won't be empty and wilbert got banished. Then it goes into late game and gildaria then outvalues. Lapis isn't a wincond because they likely have second banish and avatar is also too slow.
Tldr none of the shit aether can summon has rush or do anything immediately so it isn't good right now
>>532251850Sword as usual
>>532251867it's t2 at best
>>532250627Pretty sure this Odin is just a combination of sv1 og odin, and the odin that pulls himself out of the deck, since that one had storm. (and the same stats iirc)
>>532251832>Neptune?>in Uranus
Sword is literally Brickcraft
0 draw
0 heals
Is abyss actually running a 9pp do notning?
>>532251702b-but they could brick sometimes
What were they thinking with Gildaria?
>Rally so it can super evo for free
>Summons two knights that have rush
>Strong ability that makes barrier useless and makes clearing boards easy
>Knights can be summoned with a normal evo so she can be a good turn 6 play
Like what will the next pushed sword legendary even look like?
How does artifact win against ward haven?
Feels like I just lose after wilbert + aether
>>532252076then every other craft is hyper omega brickcraft because they're all weaker
Crazy how both Dragon and Rune have better healing than Haven, feels like I have to deal at least 30 face damage against both of them.
>>532252076>"0 draw">but everything you draw is good at every point in the game anyway
>>532251867there are zero decks worried about queueing into MRA. even artifact beats it now.
God I wanna play abyss midrange but I really do not want to craft 3 Ginsetsu. I know she's decent as of now but it feels like a huge bait
>>532251828I hate earth rite with a passion. Guess sword it is
how is Gildaria good?
she's basically a 6pp Apollo that summons a couple shitters
>>532252136if they remove free sevolve it would be balanced
Aggro is dead and Haven killed it
>>532252054He's literally just this Odin but without the accelerate.
>>532251098even doe we are 200 IQ aryan warriors who never goon
>>532252162Don't fall for the 9pp brick meme
>>532252162i only have 2 and it works just fine
>>532252162>Midrange>playing a 9pp brickMidrange is supposed to be ending games at that point
>>532252076>Choose not to put some of the best heal and draw in your deck>SWORD DOESN'T HAVE DRAWSwordtard......
>>532252136If Sword didn't have Gildaria it'd be tier 5
>>532252157Most of sword's shit is dead in hand unless you get it on the perfect turn, you are a moron.
>>532252162i'm about to blow your mind: you can build your own decks and don't have to copy paste what other people are doing. crazy, i know
>>532252136>Rally so it can super evo for freeYou're dead against every real deck before this comes up. The only was it ever happens is if you're playing a bad deck.
The rest of the complaint is true though
>>532252162Play a leaner midrange where the curve ends at 8, then.
>>532252136>20 rally No one is getting that
>>532252186>free super evolve>can evolve/super evolve her normally and still get full value from her AoE+rush knights
>>532252086yes, they are unironically playing the 9pp medusa+4hp meme card
I liked playing these weird leggos
What's the most respectable craft atm?
>>532252382Dragon is rock bottom
>>532252337I have to deal with that shit every single game against sword.
t. CAbyss main
>>532252136Why is it even a sevo even a regular evo would be strong enough. Why does sword get a free super evo when other crafts are limited to two. Thank God sword's only draw is Amelia or this deck would be more cancerous I hope every swordbab and runebab always face off against each other in ladder.
>>532252208ngl I forgot this Odin existed lol
Can you view the graveyard in this game?
>>532252343Wow, what a bunch of honest folk playing an honest deck.
>>532252162it's a bad deck with or without her so just play without her.
>>532252482you can see what cards have been destroyed on both sides
>>532252374it was different time
>>532252295Name the 'good heal' in sword. Olivia when sword doesn't even have space to play her? Lyrala the meme card? Tentacle which is only used as a finisher because you never have time to play it?
Why does the class about angels and priests have no healing when the class about hags(false youth) has 36?
>blood mains are awake
>abyss gets downplayed all the time
>shadow mains are awake
>abyss gets upplayed all the time
Can you all just shut up and make out instead of doing this shit?
>>532252474well the anathema theme is sevo so it's sevo forever now.
still my favorite lego of all time
>sword 9pp is a wincon that does 12 damage
>abyss 9pp is a do nothing that does 0 damage
>>532252507turns out cerberus is actually reskinned orchis and you can put random shit in the deck and it will work just fine
oh don't forget your odins too
>>532252584You cannot articulate how Lyrala is bad beyond "muh netdeck doesn't run her in the current meta".
I can't believe I keep getting roached as sword
>>532252382Forest. Dragon has neanderthal face deck and ramp gamba. The first anon that replied to you is a fucking retard.
>>532252572This looks fucking terrible. Is there something Iโm missing?
>>532252720>3pp do nothingit isn't that hard
>Nice game discussion earlier
>Suddenly only bitching and crying
Did the 3rd world suddenly get off work or what?
>>532252720>3PP do nothing>Heals for (1)
>>532252848It's shit then too
>>532252878I think you just need to accept this game is not very well designed.
>>532252771>20 storm damage from hand with a fuckton of boardclear >respectablein what universe
>spawning a 2/2 with rush is "nothing"
Kill all swordniggers
I wish I can lock myself in ruby or topaz
I get carried a lot by my deck
>>532252729sword shouldnt be allowed to lose
>>532252921I think you just need to git gud. Most of you have no clue what you are talking about anyway. It's been proven time and time again.
>>532252952Lyrala doesn't spawn shit with rush albeit
>>532252952>spawning a 2/2 with rush*term & condition apply
>>532253007Bro your luminous?
>>532252682dishonest motherfucker
Ginsetsu is an actual useful Amalia that can choose to either build board or clear board + 4 heal
>>532249898>A Dirt>A Wardhuh?
>>532252682I love it when sword runs out of answers and has to drop their alberts just to clear a ward or two
lyrala would be good if she cost 2 and spawned a 1/1 instead, 3 cost is too much
>>532253079>Combo with a card nobody ever lets survive >>532253103Also way harder to remove because she has actual HP
what rapes sword the absolute hardest? i don't care if i lose literally every game that isn't a sword matchup, but i want to make swordniggers suffer as much as possible
recommendations please
>>532252374>>532252572og Jabberwok was fun to use too. Also this card
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTYtlAaRf50
why is he always so happy
>>532253103>9pp 80% themiswoaw
>>532252584>Olivia when sword doesn't even have space to play herShe works well with Ambush cards to hit face
>>532253105That's Dirt KING for you, Saar.
https://youtu.be/vm_fJN_oFHs
New dragon schizo deck
>master emerald
>>532236247It sure doesn't look fun. They play the same exact shit every single game. At least Rune and Aggro Abyss have multiple wincons.
>>532253234If the 80% misses a devolved Amalia, Ginsetsu can't even clear her btw.
Rune will get more healing next set
>>532253079why run something that require set up when sword 2 and 3 drops all do something immediately? even the 3pp spell gets dropped
>>532253212he had the coolest icon
>>532253193Nothing, the worst matchup is 40%
can someone explain why every sword card must have either rush, fanfare: shit on a enemy follower or vomit board by itself (sometimes multiple apply on a single card)?
>>532253139This
3pp 1/2 2/2 just doesn't cut it
Homeress player looking for a guild :<
>>532252076>watching lamp stream>turn 10 sword>amelia>amelia>albert for lethalswordbabs are a blight on society
>>532253310a devolved amalia is just a lumi mage
>>532253186Lol i have yet to see a Fox&Demon survive to hit face even when setting up the wall
>Puppet is so heckin weak!
Meanwhile they've cleared my entire board every turn including Prim into 3/3 maid with nothing but 0PP spam and 0 evos
Very weak
>>532253272The image tells me this is infinitely more gamba and worse than fish in every way. Not that you can't just play 3 forte in fish I just don't have 3
>>532236247no, the mirrors especially.
>>532253193Face Dragon used to do well until IE. Now dragon doesn't do well against anything.
>>532253383Because then all their cards would be do nothings
>>532253383because all the cards that don't do that are unplayable
Sword's average card quality (at least of their playable cards) is probably the highest of any craft, but they don't have dclimb so it's still not the best class.
>>532253532it does well against cabyss sometimes
>>532253383don't forget the higher stats for the cost compared to other crafts on top of all those things
They have to do balance changes right? I haven't even seen a single dragon player since getting into sapphire
>>532253193artifact portal (gets raped by rune)
>>532253456Good at board control, shit at winning
>>532253314Rune healing is out of control. I thought sage light was annoying but boy was I wrong, I didnโt realize how good I had it. Now this new guy heals for a billion on evolve and theyโre NEVER in range.
>>532253639Dragon is emerald topaz comfy territory
How do I play pixie forestcraft? I feel like I don't know what I'm doing here.
>>532253639Dragon sucks because they have all their ramp on a 3 cost card and the evolve one is too slow.
>>532253639They probably will eventually, I don't think anything urgently needs a nerf right now though
3pp 3/4 with a game winning passive is bad
t. the same retards who said no win con haven would be meta
>>532253639It's ridiculous cards are already doing this much and we're only at the second pack.
>>532253532Because having otk from hand with no counterplays is bad.
Total swordkek obliteration
>>532253791It is the second game bro, SV1 players would get bored out of their mind if they did a total power level reset
>>532253639Probably after the chest event, or at worst after the next accelerated expansion
Face Dragon is an amazing deck to grind with but its incredibly fucking garbage. As soon as I hit diamond I go on massive losestreaks against fucking RUNE.
RUNE. They're meant to be weak to aggro apparently.
>>532253705>Literally has Orchis and Odin
>>532253872I wish it was all low power shit ngl
Update from diamond for the shitters in the back. Forest, Dragon, and Haven are completely extinct. Itโs over. Pack up your decks and go home.
>>532253383>2pp 1/2 that summons a 1/1 with rushEven Beryl has a downside for being overstatted. Sword just gets a 2pp 2/3 for free.
>>532253903Orchis isnt a win con like SV1 Noah
>>532253872SV1 bored me out of my mind with games ending by turn 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXULJvOmiBw
im watching the first game and i can't figure out why he's pushing so hard to keep his board clear
At least the jap streamers get just as mad as witch as we do, so there might be some hope for nerfs
>>532254009Orchis is better because unlike Albert you can play her even when you don't have lethal
>9 or 0
I craft 3rd norman 1st lila and globe the lila
>>532253892rune vs aggro was a coinflip matchup even when they weren't teching against it
>>532253939Portal will soon pack their bags as well. If it wasn't for Abyss this would be a two deck meta.
>>532253986a 1/2 plus a 1/1 is not a 2/3 and if you think that they're close you are an actual retard.
>>532254104Albert does like 12 to face even without lethal
>>532254009>Orchis isnt a win conHoly shit portal players are really something else. True, Orchis should also have storm by default, that'll do it.
>>532254171I was teching against it because it was far too common
>>532253872Odin's first time being a banish + storm was in the 21st fucking set from sv1. This game is fucked
Artifact can really just out grind Dirt so hard it's not fair.
Buff Lilanthim.
>>532253639Rune is T0, no changes needed
>>532253617>Abyss has to punch itself in the face to play 2pp 3/3>Sword drops a 2pp 2/3 split into two bodies and one of them has rush and if you don't clear the other everything else they do will have rush and it costs them nothing.
Havenbros... Please come back.
There's a roach infestation on the ladder.
>>532253892Bro, even last patch, the favored MU for Face Dragon: Rune, was a coinflip at best. Now there's no reason to climb with Face Dragon when Abyss is much better
>>532254087>2 ligma>1 gladeThe forest levels of cope are absolutely impressive what a piece of garbage deck
>>532254227Shes just a strong card not a win con like Kuon
>>532254179you're right, it's actually better
>>532254205and leaves you with 1 body on the board
>>532251832im lamping alright
>>532253892>rune is meant to be weak to aggrobwo they have over 40 hp with all their heals now
>>532253314just OTK? how is healing even real lmao
>>532252374I liked Heresy's Avatar but they didn't print a SINGLE GOOD COUNTDOWN AMULET WHILE IT WAS IN ROTATION
>>532254251One of the main reasons people got bored with the first game in the later expansions was they went overboard with healing and board clear. They did the same thing in SV2 by the 2nd expansion for one class lol.
>>53225435980% wr over 20 games in diamond master though
all on stream too
>>532254330>>532254171>>532254445I wanted to grind to master this expansion so I went with aggro. I picked face dragon cause I rolled Filene but yeah I'm really regretting it.
I'm literally a free win for every runefag I run into. Probs should have done aggro abyss though they also seem pretty shit against the craft that supposedly has a poor early game lol
Does any kung fu bro here have a face list?
>>532253272>complete fucking meme deck>rowen leaderthe strongest combination
Given the amount of healing and wards in the meta, would it even be all that strong if abyss got the two wolves and grudge teller?
>>532254403Are you actually brain damaged?
>>532254621Rowen needs his crystal back.
I fucking hate this win con shit, it should just be called finishers because they finish the game when the opponent is at half hp, they don't fucking win you the game on their own unless you play both of them back to back without your opponent doing anything about it
>sexy girl art
>fun gimmick to annoy opponent
>Isnt a wincon at T8 so I would literally rather play anything else
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>>532254429god gives his brickiest hands to his strongest rampers
>>532254624They're not giving you the wolves, bro. They're just not. Accept it.
>>532254619Don't play face dragon
>>532254718Ginsetsu is a strong card but not a wincon
A win con needs a sequence to it not lol I play this and boom
Everyone loves Lapis, but she's really in a tough position.
>>532253653Portal is good against rune thoughbeit
>>532252848It was the top end of a hyper aggro deck, and a card being overstatted was a big deal back then
>>532253735Poke for 10 before T7. Aria on 6. Cynthia, Pixie, Twinkletoes, sevo Cynthia for 9(+1) storm.
>>532253272>Master emerald>Saving evos for sv3
>>532255036>Ginsetsu is a strong card but not a winconFucking retard, it takes you out of lethal and clears every board and then you get to spam it 3 more times while grinding your opponent out for free
There should be only earth sigils or spellboost.
If you play one, the other should not be able to trigger
>>532254913She is great stall until t10 where you SEvo Kuon to Kuon and finish the game.
>>532255130I didn't see many lists running aria anymore, is she still important?
Every time I play Control/Mid Abyss as Sword I lose
They just heal for 30 per game while clearing the entire board with 1 card.
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>>532253193It's artifact since you can heal and clear their boards. That's all you need to beat Sword, Rune can do alright against Sword for that same reason. Haven lacks a real hard wincon like Artifact and Rune have so it can be grinded out by Glidaria.
>>532254281draw 18 with norman couldnt do it? get fucked.
>>532254913Convinced my deck is better with 1x odin don't need nexto shuffle than with 1x lila but she cute
odin should banish another card on sevo
>>532255143Soul Blade is a win con in Last Words Shadow for example
Darkest Desire is also a wincon
These require sequences to fulfill, moron
>>532255267you bend them over by turn 7 just fucking play your cards
>>532255242How else do you grant Pixies storm?
>>532255334Aragavy alone clears all of that shit you retard not to mention they can hide behind Charonshit
>>532254359lymaga is a broken card vs sword and rune
>>532254624>t1 coin wolf storm>t2 wolf stormNot happening any time soon.
>>532255242I think roach hybrid with 3 cynthia 2 aria 2 titania is the way to go
>>532254913>print dirt """win con""">dies with 6 stacks when dropped on 8 to mukan, medusa + reaper, orchis, gildaria + a few tokens, gets walled by aether, gets killed by that haven 1pp spell>every other class can do 10+ face damage out of hand by that timelol, lmao
>>532255287How does draw 18 help when artifact heals way more, spams more board, and draws even more?
>>532254913>isn't a wincon at T8you faggot what the fuck am I supposed to do against an unkillable 5/5?
>>532253272How is it fucking possible to drop back to emerald oh my god
At least youtubers can't bait people as easily as before with their gigamemes
>>532255461Just odin her lmao
>>532244672>>532253272Tell me about Rowen. Why does he try to make Reina work?
>>532255432What about the 3pp wolf then?
>>532255461>unkillablelol just odin her
>>532255446>every other class can do 10+ face damage out of hand by that timewhich doesn't matter because Rune heals for 28 per game
>>532255054literally false, another retard "thoughbeit" user how surprising
>>532255430Does absolutely nothing vs haven. Forest just wins out of never encountering it
>>532255461you kill it a few times then their dirt pile is gone and their deck is bricked
>>532255507>>532255518Sure let me just pull an Odin out of my ass
>>532255269>A Dirt>A Wardonce again, I refuse to believe this
>>532255474I dropped to emerald from diamond once playing exclusively spellboost in set1 and i am still stuck topaZ
>>532255049I want to put Lapis into tough sex positions
>>532255461Sword and Puppet can kill her and to artifact she doesn't really matter because she is only a 5/5,
>>532255269Lamp should still be T2 honestly. It beats everything below it every time, beats everything in T2 the majority of the time, and is a gamble on if you low or high roll to beat the T1's.
>>532255354>>532255438Also why do people say it wins against swordcraft? there's a million wards with 0 board wipes
>watching a Japanese guy play portal
Holy hell, do you need a PhD to play this deck or what? This seems very difficult to pilot
>>532255514They probably can print it but we won't probably play it. The bat girl and emblem guy already exists.
>AMELIA + LUMINOUS IS A STRONG PLAY -ACK
They didn't even need to William
Imagine actually advocating for using S.Evo on this fucking literal waste of a play
>>532255269>ramp that highWE ARE GOING TO FUCKING MAKE IT
>>532254913should have a fanfare that gives you 2 dirt stacks
evo should have been random to dodge aura
should have immunity to bane
>>532255534>dirt>having time to healit's the spellboost niggers who can afford to heal, dirt has to fight for board all game and if it has time to heal it's either already won or is trying to come back against aggro
>>532255570Stay seething topaz
>>532252374she jabbers my wock until I spawn
>>532255736Roach doesn't care about wards it cares about wards with aura
>>532255736Sword drops this new bitch that doesn't ward. You should be done on that turn.
>>532254752I see you also enjoy JO crystal dragon
>>532255642Lilian is ass but dirt in general is solid
>>532255774The 3pp wolf would go nice with the Charon Sevo.
Savage wolf + Vuella would also be a decent turn 6 sevo play for 7 face damage.
>>532255801Dirtboost is all you will see from Sapphire up
>>532255745Because it is, it needs both good decisionmaking and good planning
>>532255269I actually saw at least two spellboosts running the 8pp do nothing dirt girl. It's impressive, really. Spellboost just steals all dirt cards because it can afford to play "win more" cards easily.
And no, before you say "get out of emerald", it was diamond master.
>>532255897>6 decks in "S" Tierwhat's even the damn point of the tier
>>532255595no shit. roach is never beating haven.
>>532255792>didn't full clear it>left a 2/2 on board nerf sword
>>532255570it is true thoughever
Securing ramp and then hoe-bitch feels so fucking good, I can ride this high for atleast 1 minute.
>>532255897There's no way puppet is S tier
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>hit me with the dclimb dclimb norman infinite healing from this position
I HATE THIS
>>532255604>just kill her a few times
>>532255792How did they clear it?
>>532255736*Glades your 2hp Ward wall*
>>532255917i was talking about lilanthem being dirt's wincon though, not about spellniggers appropriating norman
spellniggers don't even need lila, i expect her to e cut after the tourney players are done testing her and conclude odin is just better
>>532256089>puppetfags STILL downplaying
>>532255976That's because parachan is running her in his 85% winrate list.
>>532255430with rune board locking themselves with onions and the dirt pile, it really does cuck them. board locking is severely underrated.
>>532255792you would've won with Albert swordbab
>>532256110That's the only thing keeping you at bay, swordshitter.
I'm gonna say it.
Cerberus is stronger than Orchis.
>>532256098even doe lower groups are the same top tier decks piloted by mouthbreathers
How different is the current meta if Odin didn't exist?
>>532256149Looking Smartx2 + Flames of Chaos x2
>>532256178I don't keep up with ecelebs much. I also find it hard to believe rune would have 85% winrate when there's so much sword and aggro abyss on the ladder.
sword sisters what wards are you using in your deck
>>532256181Board locking is good but not when you can't target anything
>>532256319Rune would go from Tier 0 to Tier -1
>>532256120https://x.com/Yukkuri_Tuki/status/1945904418031120533
>>532256220Duh, cerb doesn't even need the sevo to do its' thing.
>>532256319There wouldnt be anything holding Rune back
>>532256319ward haven and dragon would be a good bit better since your neptune and wilbert wont be erased
>>532255850>>532255858I just don't see how I can push through, they're constantly dropping like 2-3 wards off 1 card and I have to spend my turn clearing it because I can't hit face
Roach only has 2 HP how can it not care about ward?
>>532256354Yurius x1 offscreen
I don't think you need Grimnir if you don't feel like using him/crafting him he just makes it easier to play Yurius
>>532256319Wilbert doesn't get banished, Lapis doesn't get banished, and haven is actually good at doing anything other than keeping forest gated in a 9-1 at best matchup
>>532256171Puppet is great and easy as sword but they got shafted in this set while everyone get lot of bullshit. It's less downplaying and more like everyone get good shit except puppet, dragon and forest.
>>532256327He had that 85% winrate in master diamond on stream, it's all verifiable.
Hybrid rune is just the best deck in the format.
>swordtranny starts pondering
>basically almost makes the timer run out
>the play? odin into SEvo into face
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
>>532256417Vtuber won here holyfuck the amount of shit he had to use
HOLY FUCK IS EVERYONE PLAYING HYBRID RUNE NOW
Abyss has no good turn 4 play aside from pp cheating a 5drop going second
>>532256501Your 4pp removal spell?
>Jap autist tracks lobby and tournament wins
>It's sword by a huge margin followed by midrange abyss
Le meow!
>>532256417>>532256120Just odin the earth rites before she comes out it mindbreaks runecucks
>>532256484Bayle bayle bayle fairy fairy sevo buncle the new ping 2 twice. The bayles didn't work on aura wards
>>532256603Abyss won this game a couple turns later.
how come prim is played in every sword deck when /svg/ called her trash?
>>532256319>>532256414I don't think Rune would be running the dirt package and Norman if it wasn't for the added burst in the meta due to Odin. They'd be using Destroyers again.
>>532256525lamp dragon got somewhat playable (good but inconsistent) this set tho
>>532256501seria barely works for me
>>532256625your 3/5 with ward???
youre right
>>532256545I guess the ones I met had skill issues then. Unfortunate really, I wish pure dirt climbed out of unplayability already. If haven and abyss get to play the grinder stall decks, dirt deserves a chance too.
>>532256319Nothing would change, that card is so bad
>>532256693They have nothing better
what are you using odin for against rune? norman?
>>532256693Why is good card played 3x? It actually loses in mirror if they play seria and seria is also good vs abyss and good with the enhance 5 I just play both
>>532256623The only deck that's good against it, no one wants to play
>>532256603dirt has nothing if this shit happens to them
>coin wilbert on 5
>artisissy gives up because they didn't have alouette
are they this mentally weak?
>>532256859except 10pp kuon dclimb
>>532256664redditGOD i kneel
>>532256625Your Ceres when going first and Mukan when going second?
All spell cards that deal direct face damage should be removed from the game
>>532256942>dirt>dclimbretard
How would the game change if Rune could stormy blast face
>>532255461She can't attack on the turn she's resummoned
She's an annoyance but not a major threat
>>532256997Nips mix them together PLUS SATAN and somehow don't brick
Rune needs to be deleted from the game a class that auto wins at turn 10 shouldn't have any healing the devs are actually retarded
>>532257083I'm haven shitter
>>532257072Rune downplayers would claim rune needs it or otherwise rune would be a tier 6 deck.
>>532257072Imagine kaori farting on you wouldn't that be funny haha
>>532257072Assuming there were no other changes to it? It'd be the easiest OTK wincon and every single player would run it
>>532256942>hybrid with 15 sigils on board also somehow spellboosted 13 timesRune bullshit knows no bounds but that seems farfetched
Ok I am completely transfixed by this Japanese portal player. Itโs like a different game entirely. I think I have, truly, seen the light.
Can some kind anon post the most Japanese up-to-date artifact deck possible?
>>532257072games would end turn 5 or 6, owen would actually be played.
>>532257072Turn 5 you take 30 damage to the face and lose that's the change
Retard
>>532257284Just check his twitter japs aren't jews so they share their decks instead of asking you to join discords
>>532257194>Nooo decks can't just have unique wincons and differing playstyles they must all drool over themselves like me and rush face!!
>>532257382I'm literally a RuneCHAD and know the weaknesses of my own decks
>>532253272The amount of misplays in master here is palpable rank doesn't matter if you're emerald
>>532257293Zirconia might actually be the worst of the 8 wards. She's just a win more card that doesn't do anything if you aren't already winning.
>>532256678>just open the perfect 6 cards, discount them down to free and then you can easily get over 1 wardWhat am I missing here? I feel like I cannot beat the sea of wards that is swordcraft right now
>>532257534Unlike the usual winmore bricks her winmore condition (2 things on the field) is realistic to fulfill
>>532257284AF is bad right now, don't bother
>>532257476If the enemy kills her on their turn, she can attack on your upcoming turn again is my point.
>>532257549Only run against rune never queue against sword or haven that's the only way and reason to play forest
>>532257462>unique playstyle of winning at turn 10 for free having infinite scaling board wipe dropping free followers with large numbers damage and 12 free healing for funLiterally the "oc donut steel" class that does everything
>>532257462>unique winconslol, lmao, it's all stormslop, the only deck that doesn't operate that way is Rose Forest. Everything else just chips away until they can drop their big Storm follower for game, the skill expression in this game is conserving enough health so that your storm follower kills the opponent before their storm follower kills you.
>Rune
discounts cards by playing normally, most followers have good stats, infinite draw
>Dragon
>ramp is 3pp do nothing, ho-chan is 8pp do nothing, barely any draw
Explain the design behind this
lmao dirt rune feels like trying to throw everything and seeing what sticks. this is so ass
>>532257284are you watching rikka or someone else?
>>532257549Take the dwarf pill.
>>5322577130pp 8/6s are actually too weak to be ran in spellboost now.
>>532257753Pet class vs afterthought class
>>532257763So you're saying they play like sword
>>532254504https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPHotwG4Ixw
Kino
>>5322578130pp do nothing
>>532257775https://m.twitch.tv/joy0623
>>532257382He meant that you can't use her to for example kill the whole enemy board at the cost of some sigils on your turn, swordDEITY
She gets easily walled by wards and can't even go face, win condition lmao
>>5322578130 pp cleared by william brick
This game makes me so fucking horny with all the cute girls
>>532256186No he wouldn't have. You really should make sure you're right before calling someone names.
>>532257951Literally just William.
>>532258006If you're running dirt you don't get to play Willian
>>532257936Why is there a satan
Also he is chinese
>>532256501how are you surviving with no phildau
>>532258006>William in Dirt
Just kill the rune player that has 3 williams spellboosted and 12 healing in his pocket while dropping greas and kuons haha
I'm gonna do it, I'll play the "no followers under 3pp" meme variant of CAbyss.
>>532258101Oh god youโre right. I had the volume off and the runes looked the same. He plays a single satan from what I can tell. This guy is obliterating sword on the AA diamond ladder and itโs truly mesmerizing.
>>532253272This video is literally perfect. Amazing finish.
Every time I try to play against orcas as midrange or control abyss I just get fucking destroyed. I can't pass through 500 healing
>>532258107Surviving against what exactly?
>>532257549it's often not straightforward but lygama locking two non-wards onto the board and dealing 5+ face damage makes it much easier.
>>532258107The OG 2 pp do nothing
>>532257936did you manage to grab his decklist?
>>532258182I've done well with that deck against anything that is not hochan dragon or sword. Contrary that what you'd expect from a deck with no under 3pp followers (except curse party skellies at 0pp) I have a near 100% winrate with it against aggro abyss.
>>532258290non-aggro abyss fucking sucks
>>532258092>>532258109I still see it in dirts half the time
t. ward haven
>>532258436nevermind he's showing it now
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>>532258526>zeus spellThat's not the list I've seen. What list are you running?
>>532258436Just grabbed it
>>532258182Phildau is crazy with Charon tho
>>532258290That's sort of the point, anon. Lamp right now stalls and controls until you get 2 Genesis dragons and then OTK. It works, but I'm hoping for more HP burns in the future so Burnite emblem gets played and the goal becomes stalling for burns rather than praying for OTK's. But I have a feeling people would think that's even more cancerous.
>>532258613>triple cannondamn,everyone told me nobody's playing that brick anymore
>>532258613i should really try cannon, it kind of puts rune in a "coc shift or lose" position
>>532244672NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>532258613>>532258739>satan>no orchis>THREE cannonits garbage
>>5322586133 doomwright 3 cannon 2 Karula is crazy to a fella like me
>>532258526>or swordwhat's the point then
>>532258764In case you can't tell, he's playing for the mega mega long game(he's mentally ill basically). That's why there 1x Satan
Do you think Portal normally run Satan?
>>532258613This guy's entire gameplan is spamming Artifact B, isn't it? If it isn't then I don't understand how he wins.
>>532258613>satan copingI see af is d tier then
>>532258526>turn 10>aggroUhh sure buddy
>>532258932yeah i figured
i'll stick to rikka's list
>>532258679It's copied from the n1 abyss jap streamer but I got it a few days ago. I have no idea if he's updated the list since then and I've been away for 2 days with PC issues so I also don't know how the meta shifted in this time
>>532256625Ceres is underestimated.
>>532258841Yeah, which is why I'm currently looking for other decks. 90% of the ladder is sword. Maybe I just personally don't do well against it, I dunno.
>>532257719Hey, Cerb usually wins off her rush dogs, not storm! Completely different wincon!
>>532258613This list should be called we have control Abyss at home.
What would happen if Albert was a neutral card?
>>532259418aggro abyss becomes tier 0
>>532259418>cocytus but 9 pits trash
>chest appeared after like 10 games
>immediately get into a literal 30 minutes control stall city against lagging motherfucker
I want off mr. Kimura's wild ride
>>532259418whats gping on in that webm
>>532258613This guy was one of the best Artifact Portal players in SV1 too. He likes playing more control-oriented, that's why his list is weird like that. It's also how he won Portal mirrors consistently when it was T0 in Unlimited.
>>532259841It's the fake epstein camera footage released by the 3 letter glowies.
People memed it by AI generating random shit over it.
Btw. that isn't even his cell, his is off camera.
Artifact portal is also top tier ladder deck because every opponent will lose to the doomwright resurgence + carnelia interaction at least once.
>>532260129Am i supposed to know who that is
Why runeniggers soups can't be banished? Why does this game favor rune so much
>>532260957The guy who hosted child rape events at his private island for all sorts of elite people
>>532260957Israeli agent that blackmailed every politician or person in power around the globe by running a pedo island.
Not really worth spending much thought on honestly.
Those weren't my kids anyways.
>>5322563193x cannon like the good old days
itd be so fucking good with icarus too
>>532261421Trump actually blacklisted Epstein from his properties.
Update: Forestcraft is dogshit
I have no idea how it actually wins any games, I don't lose to it ever and I can't win with it ever
How in the FUCK is it Tier 1? Are japanese players that fucking shit at the game?
(The answer is yes they win nothing in global card game tournaments)
So seriously, how do you survive aggro abyss long enough to hit mid game?
>>532249898>puppet>slol no
>>532263658You pray they don't have odin
>>532250095No card can for now, it's good that she's a 3pp 3/3 at least.
