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>>532164212Dev Notes
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/mists-of-pandaria-classic-development-notes-updated-july-1/2097329
MoP:
Intro
https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic
Addons
https://overgear.com/guides/mists-of-pandaria-classic/top-addons-for-mop/
Class Tier List
https://www.zockify.com/mop/tier-list/
MoP Leveling Gear Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWKTmp_gs1A&t=2s [Embed]
Legendary Item Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeQJ269-J5c [Embed]
Profession Guide
https://www.wow-professions.com/mop
Vanilla:
Phase guide
https://www.wowhead.com/classic/guide/fresh-servers-roadmap-phases
Addons
https://www.wowhead.com/classic/news/the-best-addons-for-wow-classic-fresh-351334
DPS tier list
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/guide/dps-rankings-tier-list-pve-burning-crusade-classic-wow
An Qiraji Release and Overview
https://www.wowhead.com/classic/guide/temple-ahnqiraj-aq40-overview-classic-wow
The Burning Crusade Prep Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyGBABkKu0U [Embed]
When are we going to get fit pandaren?
>Vanilla launch was a clusterfuck
>TBC launch was smooth
>Wrath launch was smooth
>Cata launch was smooth
>MoP launch was a clusterfuck
Volumes.
>>532250985>>TBC launch was smooth>>Wrath launch was smoothWhy would you even lie like that?
>>532251070TBC launch was buttery smooth, wtf are you talking about? Wrath was fine once you actually got to Northrend.
>anduin's butthole is smooth
volumes
Aren't you excited for Dragonflight Classic?
>>532251124Pandaria is fine once you actually get there too. there's just the one auto skip quest at the beginning which really isn't all that different from the teleports to Northrend.
idk if maybe the first couple hours of MoP were worse, but I logged in ~3 hours after launch and quested smoothly all the way through Jade Forest.
wow really love this questing wow
I'm sorry I'd rather play sod or anniversary than this. This is an awful flavor of the month.
https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/68636-wrath-classic-launch-gm-boat-interventions-stuck-players-and-queues/
>>532251124>Wrath was fine once you actually got to Northrend.let's not go that far
Bosses spawning adds even after death, so rest of your run through dungeon is annoying. Especially gundark stunning snakes...
monsters restoring to full hp out of ass
>>532251671>Bosses spawning adds even after death, so rest of your run through dungeon is annoying. Especially gundark stunning snakes...>monsters restoring to full hp out of assI have legit no idea what you are talking about.
>wowcg bitches and moans about MoP being unplayable / failed launch
>meanwhile picrelated
it is time to accept the awful truth - most of you are absolute shitters including me, i've only hit 86 few hrs ago
MOP SISSIES
OH NO NO NO NO
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>532252746it took them that long??
>>532253043fuck off troon
um mop sisters...im not really feeling this "greatest class design ever"
assassination rogue just feels like a shallow version of retail...
>>532254218only wotlk kids loved mop class design because it was epitome of "every class has tools for everything" garbage design.
CLasses only got good after WoD's prune
>assassination rogue just feels like a shallow version of retail..Be happy you don't play as restro shaman, there literally no free space on his bars
>>532254218shadow blades does basically nothing, but wowee more keybind bloat
>>532254218>mutilate and envenom spamVs
>mutilate and envenom spamWhatโs the difference, lil bro?
I don't enjoy questing in MoP. wrath and cata is better there imo.
>>532254791actually having energy while im spamming aoe sounds nice
>Shitbacktroon already trying to inject their furfaggotry into these threads
Will ONE of you fucking retards keep that troon from making the OP?
well warlock is good at least
>he's not 90 yet
what's your excuse?
>>532254928Get more haste, lil nigga.
>>532255117too busy jackin it to javs
>>532255117servers were shit so I played factorio for most of today
mop more like slop am I right
>>532255117I'm not cheesing it with monkey runs
tell me I'm not the only guy that can select a server and log in. Nigga I paid for this put me in queue at least
>>532255117im like 86 and a half and havent finished jade forest .. no idea where to go next
why cheese to 90 when you have to quest anyway
>>532255426at the end of jade forest the questline will take you directly to the valley of broken winds
>unlock klaxxi dailys
>servers go down
MOP SISSIES
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>532254791retail assassination has much better aoe and you have shiv/kingmaker windows
lmgd world first 90 bruddas
>lowest player turnout for an expansion on record
>just kill monkeys anon! It's warcraft!
>servers are still aids
Total niller victory.
>>532255613mmmh ok. i hope i can skip karasang wilds, never liked that zone
I agreed with my friends to play MoP with them today - haven't played WoW for years. How is it so far?
>>532256873do you remember how MoP was in 2011? it's the same thing
>>532256873im unable to log in to the server
>>532256873its terrible honestly
leveling is such a fucking boring slog in classic
is it just me or are drop rates for quest items way shitty in mop, compared to other xpacs? Had to kill a dozen tigers before I even got 1 vial of blood on the 13th kill.
that concludes our year long seethe of cata
please look forward to a year long seethe of mop
reminder they could just launch legion after mop because all of wod is time travel fuckery and they just can say "in this timeline garrosh just died after the events of mop" and that's it, would be even a bit cool
classic anni servers are UP!
>>532257992not enough milking
>>532257992I want my garrison so I don't have to deal with people like you anymore!
would they bring back the facebook farmville games? Would they bring back the selfie patch?
i made it to lvl 30 in mop prepatch and i'm already bored. just playing HC while waiting for pochie.
i just want to say what the fucking fuck were they thinking with the cata reworks? most of the zones you out level after 2-3 quests with no heirlooms. i was doing all quests in every zone to feel like there is some sort of semblance to a journey but even if you are on level, you just pull and facetank 10 mobs and do 1 pull per quest, the most braindead, mind numbing shit imaginable. i have not leveled thru the classic zones once in cata and i cant even get past lvl 30 its so fucking horrible.
>>532259080nice blog sister girl
>forced to race fudge to troll next tier for 5% more dps on the beast bosses
Cringe...
>>532259080Turns out people don't want to do the same boring ass slog for over 20 years and would like it to go faster
>>532259080you are just lazy, I've lvl up 7 characters to lvl 85, you are just a lazy bitch who cannot enjoy the experience of classic!
>>532258661Already thinking about who to main
>>532259951fuck I love these feet
ill do whatever the scarlet crusade wants
>>532259080I prefer the AOE zugging of modern questing compared to the 1 mob at a time slog slow combat of vanilla.
>>532259972i've leveled like 6 characters in vanilla, but id rather kill myself than engage the retail sludge leveling experience
>>532260283>be warrior>charge mob>miss>parry>dodge>hit>10 rage>miss>hit>10 rage>heroic strike>kill mob with 50% hp remainingYep... truly this is better.
>>532260417>sits to eat after every pull>pull 2 mobs by accident and dieWe won Vanilla bros
>>532260479>every 30mins you can pull a few more mobs with retalYep... Kino...
>>532260417>>532260479>>532260616imagine getting filtered by one of the most casualized mmos and bragging about it
STILL CAN'T LINK ITEMS IN CHAT
IT'S BEEN A MONTH OF THIS
HOW
>>532260704Sorry, I just respect my free time
>>532260930>DARKSHIRE... I HUNGER!
>>532260283>anon freaks out when theres more than auto attacks
What are the broken specs of MoP?
>>532261275you implying mop gameplay is better? wow gameplay is all shit, pressing the same buttons but more often doesn't make the game more interesting. look to osrs for an actual skill expression based game.
Shameful bait. Not even worthy of a (You).
Hey guys
Dont stand in the water dropped by the elementals when they die in temple of the jade serpent, it hurts you
Dont stand in the water when youre circling around the boss it hurts you
If you get the yuangol encounter in the library, switch between mobs so they drop stacks at 7
Dont pull all the shaw in the courtyard with the 3rd boss they will slap you
The end of cata retard brain is strong in mop right now
what do I do if the screen is stuck on retrieving character list?
>>532261861bait be like:
>YOOOOO THIS COOKIE CUTTER IS FIREEEEEEEEEEEEE FRFRFR
>>532261932>Dont pull all the shaw in the courtyard with the 3rd boss they will slap youworks on my machine
After playing Niller/TBC/Wrath/Cata it's really refreshing how decent the MoP questing is. The writing is noticeably better than Cataclysm and the actual pacing of quests is way more enjoyable. I got to 87 without feeling like I was straining at all or dreading the next "10 bear asses" quest.
>The subWh*** troon is already shitting up the place with xis fur fetish
>thread is already stale
RIP MOP Classic 7/21/2025 - 7/22/2025, the subWh***s killed it again.
>look to osrs for an actual skill expression based game.
>>532262547P-playing with a metronome ticking until I dont need it anymore is skill!
>lil bro is crashing out because of runescape
>>532262386The not yet populated quest markers are throwing me off. I shouldn't see exclamation points on my map if the quest isn't available.
Is there a rested xp guide for MoP? I mean most of these quests are designed for low IQ brownoids so they're retarded simply to begin with, but I do like to min max on running back and forth and that part is already getting messy.
is no one else concerned about the stuck on retrieving character list?
>>532250297 (OP)i'm so tired of these incompetent retards that can't plan for an expension release
>>532262386Pandaria is based. Just vibes of exploring a newly discovered land
Kiryn has a sexy voice ....
Troonscat shills not doing their best today
>>532262920I'm not having this problem... Check OwnedCore for a version of RXP.
>2 hours since thread was made
>only 97 post
>inb4 everyone is playing
Lmao nobody wanted this shit.
the voices of fempandas give me a boner why cant real women sound like this
everyone is playing albeit
>>532263332nobody is playing they cant get past the retrieving character list
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>mop launch
>10 wow threads
mop popping off hard
we're so back
I bet lilis got a tight little puss
>>532262386I like Cata questing more just because it's way faster, but yeah, Pandaland writing is definitely leagues better than "the world is... le ending" and "THRAAALL".
>>532255117lol i play healer so you're gonna wait for me to level whenever I feel like it you disposable animal.
>0 posts about AQ40
'niller cryboomer wellness check
>>532262547>>532262647https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3f9ZADZ3Xs
i'm waiting for you to post anything from any version of wow that takes even 1/10th the skill of competent osrs endgame gameplay. oh wait, you don't even have the means to understand the basic theory of why the skill part is actually skillful because your brain cannot process anything on the screen since it's happening too fast for your 40yo brain to follow you've developed from thinking that spamming 1-2-3 and then clicking 4 when it lights up is the epitome of mmo skill expression.
>>532264619SHUT UP NO ONE CARES ABOUT THAT RAID IS WHY BUT VANILLA IS STILL THE BEST THING EVER
>>532255117BASED AIKA GYARU QUEEN
>>532264650bro you are embarassing /osg/ please post something better
hey classicfags, where are your ecelbs? why are they playing osrs, the best and largest mmo on the market, instead of classic wow?
>>532264863so, you've got nothing
lil bro is posting zuk speedruns as skill :skull:
even i (zuk helmer tm) can admit our game is braindead easy
>>532250297 (OP)i lost gallons to this little cub
>>532264920no you posted a tranny using animation smoothing, speedrunning inferno with a tbow
post a better video to showcase the gameplay
post a tob clear or something
>>532264619everything past MC is retail
>>532264650any retail boss is harder than that slop
>>532265096>>532265163can you post your inferno !pb and !kc with this post's post number visible pls i wanna see
>>532265342oh NOW BWL isn't the peak anymore
>>532265348can you post a link i wanna see
Wait, so if the Sha are remnants of an old god, and the mantid worship the old gods, then why are the sha corrupting the mantid? Is this a plot hole or an unsaid narrative element on why worshipping the old gods is madness because they don't care about you?
i dont have to cope about why a point and click game is easier than a tab target game, it just is lil bro
>>532265531https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rime13g9zK8
>>532265538can you post a video example of the hardest content in the tab target game pls
>>532265536Are you retarded?
>>532264619>Anyone caring about the worst raidNo thanks
>532265662
nyo, i dont have that much experience there. you're embarrasing everyone trying to cope that our game is hard btw these wow boomers are mogging all of osg rn
>N-no one cares about AQ anyway
Wonder what the cope will be when Naxx comes out
>>532265670No? Do you actually have anything to say?
new freshy and more fashy
>>532265649so running against a completely rigid boss AI along wtih addons that help schedule everything you have to do with live alerts is harder than pulling 8 way switches with a constant 400ms margin of error clocking you? again where is the skill expression, outside of pressing 1-2-3 and 4 when the button shines
>>532265824so you lied about coping, since its obviously you are coping when you don't even have a frame of reference what you think is the hardest content in wow and you are trying to measure it up against something you have equally 0 clue about
>>532265683ah so vanilla is bad got it
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Is this the least hyped classic release yet?
dont crash out because streamers say an easy game is easy 24/7 bwo...
boomer streamers are doing the job of showing everyone it's easy i dont need to cope on a somali forum about why actually its not like u... istg blud take ur meds
>>532266378Finally figuring it out?
>peepo the twitch frog
skippy the post
>>532266092>so running against a completely rigid boss AIwhat does this mean, everything has a set AI. Every enemy in runescape has a rigid AI
>along wtih addonsruneshit players do not get to comment on addons when they all use a 3rd party client
last I checked WoW addons dont allow me to hide all other players
>pulling 8 way switches with a constant 400ms margin of errorthe fact that runescape runs at 400ms just means its a dogshit game, not skillful
try again
>>532266092>addons that help schedule everything you have to do with live alertsare we pretending runelite and its plug ins arent a thing used by all serious osrs players?
wowers that osg sister is NOT one of us i swear, we admit our game is easy blud is just crashing out here for no reason
>>532264619a-at least we have more than 15 players in a screenshot!
.. now please do the deedful and sign up for our raid tonight, we're missing 25 players already....
>>532265871naxx is full of disney bloat mechanics only retoilet tryhards enjoy
>>532266604what are you talking about? also why are you pretending to be a zoomer, you're clearly a boomer or millenial that's why you're camping out in a /vg/ thread for a 20 year old game. also didnt you say youre not coping but then admit you don't know what endgame in wow is even like
>>532266856>what does this mean, everything has a set AIits not hard to understand. wave spawns in the content i posted is randomized so you can't memorize a "strat" like a wow boss that just switches between phases on set intervals using attacks with set intervals or conditions.
>runeshit players do not get to comment on addons when they all use a 3rd party clientlast I checked WoW addons dont allow me to hide all other players
no addon is going to help you with wave 60+ solves
>the fact that runescape runs at 400ms just means its a dogshit game, not skillfulso you are giving up and resorting to trolling. is chess also a dogshit no skill game because it runs at whatever MS required for a turn to process?
>>532267182you are a millenial larping as a zoomer
>MoP is DoA!!!
>JF is so packed that it's literally unplayable
>The only time this happened before was initial launch back in 2019
Tranillasisters...
>>532267319>niller revisionismyou guys are having a terrible week huh
So if MoP is Classic, why do you hate retail?
>>532267319whats a disney mechanic
>>532267949when i cant tunnel the boss the entire fight while staring at details
>nooo you cant tourist other games threads!!
im from 2004 unc
also ur weird stop trying to cope our game as hard its not no one says that anywhere ur weird all i said is that its easy i dont need to know about wow to say that :sad_flowey;
>>532268212why are you 30yo+ and typing like a teenager
classicbros we won
the osrs andies are already back to wow
>>532267384except plenty of mechanics in WoW are randomized, try again
>no addon is going to help you with wave 60+ solvesno addon is going to solve a mythic raid boss either, so again you were coping
And yes, runeshit plugins will solve inferno
>so you are giving up and resorting to trolling.Its not trolling, runescapes tickrate sucks fucking ass
>is chess also a dogshit no skill game because it runs at whatever MS required for a turn to processcomparing turn based games to real times games running like ass is peak retardation, as expected of a runeshitter
>>532268469why are you 30yo+ and using a website for teenagers
>532268401
even doe thats zoomspeak unc be fr
ill say it myself so you can crash out again hehe
zuk helm is eawsy
>>532268761>become ungovernable
>>532268395Amazing how this single clip destroyed vanilla cryboomers everywhere.
>>532268580>except plenty of mechanics in WoW are randomized, try againso which mechanics are randomized in
>>532265649let's see how easy it is to deal with them
in inferno the spawns of a wave are randomized, every single tile you can move to matters in deciding if you fucked up or succeeded, activating your prayer on the correct tick down to the precise tick's timing matters in deciding if you fucked up or not. moving on the correct tick matters and fucking up can instantly kill you.
all this is relevant because the spawns are random. list the mechanics that are random that require specific responses from the player in your video please.
>no addon is going to solve a mythic raid boss either, so again you were copingoh but it is. why else are there nonstop timers counting down, why else are there WA alerts on the screen? the content i linked is designed to be done without any plugins and the first player who did it did it without them. can you post a single example of your boss being killed by people without addons?
>And yes, runeshit plugins will solve inferno this is false. you are clueless and started resorting to trolling again, are you getting upset?
>Its not trolling, runescapes tickrate sucks fucking assthat's because you lack the skill or understanding to perform basic tick manipulation which is a form of emergent gameplay that is a word not even known to the average wowretard.
>comparing turn based games to real times games running like ass is peak retardation, as expected of a runeshitteryou claimed that the delay makes the game less skillful, but now you are claiming turn based games are skillful? why the leap in logic?
perma dungeon-finder gameplay is retail and it's making me sleepy
>>532268783why are you 30yo+ and typing like a teenager
>>532268469They got paid by blizzard to play mop, some even declined kek
>>532270028>coped the cryboomer
loving watching these 2 niggas jump thru hoops trying to pretend wow is a skill expression mmo
>>532270028You know there has to be an #ad for that to happen
>mobs being killed instantly
>take 5 minutes to respawn
god i fucking hate blizzard
>>532270239>has to be kek, why the fuck would a video game streaming site require that to stream a videogame
>>532270378That's on twitch guidelines you omega idiot
>>532268395Naxxchuds explain this
>>532270353you need to grind the same 5 dungeons for 12 hours or wait 2 weeks to level
>>532270442and you think they care if their cash cow streamers doesn't do that? they gonna ban him?
>>532270028Anything to help you cope.
>>532270651lol give up, blizz is cooked epoch is going to steal MoP's thunder and seal its fate as even more ofa dogshit classic release than cata and i'm going to come here to laugh at you HAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>532270584Yea, twitch is going to ban them that's their rules. >buh they just wont uhh
take off the tin foil hat clown
>>532270584>quit making sense, that doesn't go with my narrativeoh you lil niller, so desperate
>>532270832lol retard, twitch is already dying and you think they gonna start banning their cash cows?
>I AM GOING TO BE LEFT BEHIND I HAVE TO GRIND LIKE A BALD LOSER
UHH OHHH
>none of my cards have sold
Dead game...
>>532270869MoP will be the lowest playercount classic release, lower than cata.
I love how tourists flood wowcg for two weeks bragging about the latest thing.
Unc who is you? Pp4mm
>>532271087There there, I know its hard times to have 15 sign ups total for AQ tonight
>>532271004>2 #ad streams in the whole first pageLooking good babe
>>532271135why are you 30yo+ and typing like a teenager
>>532271258Why do you keep biting obvious bait, retard?
>>532271258Why are you 40+ year olds typing like boomers?
>>532271165actually im a pochie chad. 40k members in the official discord already.
>>532271420Noooo you are suppose to give blizzard money for the privilege to hang out with South Americans
Could they phrase update the profession menus so you could see everything without insane amount of scrolling.
>everyone is already level 90
Well I'm too late now, might as well wait for MoP Classic Anniversary
>>532269572>in inferno the spawns of a wave are randomizedcool but it doesnt matter because pissscape is all solved the same way, prayer spam
>activating your prayer on the correct tick down to the precise tick's timingtiming way less tight than any game made after 1996
>this is false. you are clueless and started resorting to trolling againtheres no trolling, plugins can paint tiles for you telling you exactly what to do, because the game is a joke
>that's because you lack the skill or understanding to perform basic tick manipulation which is a form of emergent gameplay abusing bugs is not emergent gameplay lmao, sorry your game is shallow as shit
>you claimed that the delay makes the game less skillfulI said it makes the game shit you illiterate retard
trying to pass off the game running like dogshit as skill makes you retarded
chess is neither, because its not a real time game in the first place
>>532270447he stood in the bad
pissbaby is mad someone called the most casualized mmo easy
>>532273656His ego is tied to a 3rd party website score
Rainy Valley of the four winds looks so comfy.
Now that the dust has settled and the numbers for MoP are in, can we all agree that hating retail was just contrarianism and retail is actually good and an improvement?
>>532274617do not mistake contrarianism for stupidity
>>532274617No. Go back to your third world shit hole. Thanks.
>>532271135>meanwhile threads dying at 500 postslel yeah I'm sure you knew everyone
>>532274617classic only addresses superficial issues with retail at best
>>532274617this upsets the hive
did mop freeze for anyone else
i can reload but nothing is moving and i cant attack or type
>>532273524>theres no trollingYour entire post is trolling
>all solved the same way, prayer spamNow tell me how to do a Z-stack solve. How does "prayer spam" help you when you don't know how ticks even work. The average wow player's brain isn't big enough to solve this.
>timing way less tight than any game made after 1996Trolling and clueless. Do an 8 way switch in 2 ticks and attack twice while flicking pray, then do a 4 way switch and manual cast a spell while doing another 8 way switch, all in 5 ticks. You don't even understand the level of skill required to spamming 1-2-3 +click 4 when it shines or moving back when your addon tells you.
>plugins can paint tiles for you telling you exactly what to doOk so why do mass amounts of people pay 200 dollars for a cape service?
>abusing bugs is not emergent gameplay lmao, sorry your game is shallow as shitTick manipulation mechanics are part of intended gamedesign, they are literally baked into mechanics like the colliseum manticore attack mechanic.
>I said it makes the game shitso what's this then:
>the fact that runescape runs at 400ms just means its not skillful
I warned you all mop would be a dud because people wonโt spend 60 hours grinding to 80 but you didnโt listen. Blizz drops the ball again!
>>532274617WoD and Legion are when Retail truly began.
>>532277130for me whatever the expansion was that turned all character models into pixar shit
the game is unrecognizable
>>532277981Which streamer told you to think that way?
>>532278040Me. I am that streamer.
>>532278280You are a faggot
Will Blizzard do WoD Classic?
world buffs that persist through death and no boss mechanics is a niller cryboomers dream
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>>532278040>he needs a streamer to tell him pixarshit looks badyou are a tranny
>>532274617It's deader than both Cata and SoD were
>Do dungeons, get a bunch of gear
>Do the same dungeons on heroic, get raid ready equipment
>Do Mogu'shan vaults on normal difficulty a few times
>Now progress that exact content on heroic..
>Finally about to finish gearin-
ENJOY HEART OF FEAR
>Start the same loop over again
>Nearing the end of weekly scheduled HoF
TIME FOR THRONE OF THUNDER, ARE YOU IN?
>sunk cost fallacy kicks in, you've stayed this far might as well finish the fight
>trial and error with people dying to easy mechanics
>do all the achievements, gotta get that mount
>s-surely it's over, i finished getting Wrathions cape
HOW DOES TIMELESS ISLE DAILIES SOUND, HMM? Also SIEGE OF ORGRIMMAR MYTHIC!
>Goalpost endlessly shifted, your efforts mean little to nothing
>People paying for BiS SoO gear & Kor'kron Juggernaut
>It's finally done, the war is ove-
HEY I HEARD YOU GUYS LIKED WARLORDS OF DRAENOR, LOL
>What was it all for?
>Time to start building Khadgars legendary ring
>Mustn't forget to level those garrison followers
>Flight doesn't unlock until Tanaan Jungle patch, obnoxious reputation grind required
>Some poor sod is doing the shipyard missions for heirloom ring
>>532276772prayer spam is literally just tick abuse, what is this cope
>Tick manipulation mechanics are part of intended gamedesignwait a second that sounds like its not emergent gameplay at all then
why do runetrannies lie so much lmao
>Ok so why do mass amounts of people pay 200 dollars for a cape service?$200? Thats it?
Lmao, a mythic carry in retail is close to a grand, glad carries probably 1500
But hey I guess something actually hard like mythic raiding justifies a bigger paycheck
>so what's this then:you being a retarded ESL because thats not what I said
the post says
>the fact that runescape runs at 400ms just means its a dogshit game, not skillfulA game being unresponsive doesnt make it skillful to fight through the poor coding, it makes it bad. Runescape is bad because its unresponsive. Chess is not unresponsive
>>532278794>this looks like pixar just because it does okay?you are a faggot lol
For me it's OnlyFangs and Frontier
>>532279209>i hate playing the gamemaybe dont play the game you hate playing
>>532279305>Lmao, a mythic carry in retail is close to a grand, glad carries probably 1500Who the fuck pay this? I'm thinking this is all a money laundering operation. Probably for Israel.
>>532279727You'd be surprised at how many mazed mountmogcheevo collectors there are on retoilet. Though that's basically 90% of their remaining playerbase.
>>532276772I just want a version of Runescape where botting is permitted, am very noob cannot even Jad. Please understand cannot figure out Prayer switching and '1 tick' switching entire armor sets/combat styles whilst standing in the correct place.
There's already people who automate boss encounters and are listed as having like 10,000 kill count for specific bosses
Just wish they allowed it officially and sold the scripts to people. They never will though, Jagex has notorious history of hating botters
>>532280223>disney pixar login screenoof
>>532279613I'm not playing MoP, not even subscribed.
Seriously hoping they do ERA Burning Crusade this time around so i can stay in my time capsule & take however long i want reaching Sunwell content
>>532280383>Seriously hoping they do ERA Burning CrusadeThis but unironically so that you faggots can stop asking for TBC servers forever
>>532279305>prayer spam is literally just tick abuse, what is this copeExplain how.
>wait a second that sounds like its not emergent gameplay at all thenHow are the two mutually exclusive?
>why do runetrannies lie so much lmaoYou are the one who claimed OSRS is not skillful and started trolling and pretending to be smug while you're obviously getting upset by this interaction.
>$200? Thats it?Like here, where you tried to ignore your own claim that marking tiles means everyone can do it, but I guess everyone just likes paying 200 dollars for fun? Explain your logic.
>But hey I guess something actually hard like mythic raiding justifies a bigger paycheckThe example you posted of a mythic raid was a guy working on a schedule posted by his addons, while doing 1-2-3 and click 4 when it glows, and you still haven't listed all the things that you claimed are random in the fight, so I guess that was you lying again and hoping it won't get brought up again.
>the fact that runescape runs at 400ms just means its a dogshit game, not skillful>A game being unresponsive doesnt make it skillful Just because you can't understand how tick manip works and think 30ms latency buffering into the tick system makes it unresponsive doesn't actually mean it's unresponsive. And you not understanding the tick system is demonstrated by your lack of comment to a typical use case outlined in the previous post. You're completely out of your depth, you can't name any intricacies of mythic raiding nor can you understand how endgame gameplay works in osrs, so all you can do is troll because you're upset.
Shadowlands classic WHEN???
Starting a new account with my boys; 3 of us are playing. One is playing monk (brew), another is playing mage (maybe) - what should I play? I'm thinking either warlock or shaman or maybe warrior
>>532281374I'd be all for Shadowlands classic if we also got Shadowlands /wowg/ Classic at the same time.
>>532281374Its Zoltan the jail her
>>532279209>sunk cost fallacy kicks insure maybe if you're a weak-minded individual
>>532274617no
why would I agree with that
BREAKING: UNDEAD WARLOCK DIES AT LVL 76
>>532282913>76Damn I thought he was over 80s at this point
RIP Prince of Darkness
>>532282913>open /mu/>It's real
Why is the auction house dead today? Is nobody playing MoP? Surely people need my elixirs!
>FUDposting overtime
good evening saar
are we playing project epoch?
>>532280753>press button >gain prayer buff>but doesnt actually consume resourcethis is literally just tick abuse, how you cant see that is beyond me
>How are the two mutually exclusive?do you not understand what the word emergent means esl?
>You are the one who claimed OSRS is not skillfulbecause it isnt
>pretending to be smugnot pretending, I am very happy to be a better person than you
>Like here, where you tried to ignore your own claim that marking tiles means everyone can do it, but I guess everyone just likes paying 200 dollars for fun?People buy carries for garbage all the time because they have more money than time
people buy carries for basic M+ in WoW but Im not going to pretend like that means a +10 is hard
>The example you posted of a mythic raid was a guy working on a schedule posted by his addons, while doing 1-2-3 and click 4 when it glowsbecause thats not what was going on
no wow class plays like that, and its not a schedule in the topleft either
>and you still haven't listed all the things that you claimed are random in the fighteverything not targeted on a tank in that fight is random
>questie still fucked up
>server still lagging, badly
>quests are weird and not working properly
>every area is over crowded and respawns too slow
a day or two away from being done with this shit. leveling is meaningless in classic mop anyway let me just hit 90.
>>532279209unironically hop on osrs so this shit doesnt happen
>>532283934why are you morons responding to this dumb nig and his 0/10 bait? stop.
>>532283934>this is literally just tick abuse, how you cant see that is beyond meYou think prayer is a limiting factor in any content in this game?
>do you not understand what the word emergent means esl?Do you not understand what mutual exclusivity means? A mechanic can be baked in while at the same time founded on emergent gameplay.
>because it isntSo why are people paying 200usd+ for services?
>not pretending, I am very happy to be a better person than youYou're the one who's constantly having to try and lie, and cherry pick what parts of my post you respond to, like how you ignored the run down on what the average play by play for tick manip means at endgame, and you didn't even understand the high level explanation.
>People buy carries for garbage all the time because they have more money than timeSo this your argument? Then explain why only 100k people have the cape but millions have the required stats.
>people buy carries for basic M+ in WoW but Im not going to pretend like that means a +10 is hardNo, they buy carries for KSM. You are again showing your cluelessness about both games.
>because thats not what was going onThen explain what's going on, come on you keep avoiding this one. Did you lie when you claimed the fight you linked had random elements yet you can't list them?
>everything not targeted on a tank in that fight is randomNah, if that was the case DBM wouldn't be able to report the timers.
>>532281519>no avatarfags>no furries>no m*ye>arguing with ziv trannies everyday>ziv porn dumpsTAKE ME BACK
>>532283934a +10 is not even remotely comparable to inferno lol. inferno is like glad/top glad. inferno isn't even the hardest content in osrs
>>532284667take the filterpill
I hear there's a actual queue to login in EU MoPC. We might actually get close to the WotLKC numbers! Massive success.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqsYiQYpYTc
join the superior game
>>532286694this but sally whitemane
>>532286694fucking kill yourself
>>532286924based, treat yourself!
>>532280376nigga, it's from pre alpha WoW
>>532287478>WoW was disney pixar from day 0ah
>>532287610>retard thinks >>532287478 is what people mean by "pixar"no wonder you need youtuber opinions to help you
>>532288318>this doesn't look like pixar because it just doesn't okay?nillers already coping
>>532268469Wait, weren't these people saying wowbad, play runescape instead, just last week?
I completed the mythic blackrock foundry skip last week and now I cant skip to the boss? how do I use the blackhands sigil thing?
>>532288416that's warcraft artstyle aka not "pixar" you stupid faggot
>>532288616>he thought they were interested in osrs by their own will and not because of a fotm fadboy you need to lurk moar
>>532284878>A mechanic can be baked in while at the same time founded on emergent gameplay.it literally cannot you fucking retard ESL holy shit. if it was designed that way its not emergent
>So why are people paying 200usd+ for services?I already explained why
Why cant you read?
>No, they buy carries for KSM.they buy carries for their weekly vault all the time retard
>Then explain why only 100k people have the cape but millions have the required stats.theres not millions of people playing your shit game lmao
>Nah, if that was the case DBM wouldn't be able to report the timers.half the timers are off of debuffs on players, and the mechanic being on a timer doesnt mean its not random where it goes and how to respond
>Then explain what's going onhttps://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/mage/fire/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps
>>532285096>another illiterate ESLincredible
where do you shitskins come from
the point is that a +10 is a joke and people STILL BUY IT
people buying something just means theyre lazy, not that its hard
>>532288730>this artstyle is warcraft and the other one is pixar because my favorite youtube channel said socan't spell npcs without N for nillers
>>532288631never mind I figured it out. had to click on some rocks that was never specified anywhere. thanks every one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D10lx4M7acI
>1:49
>most replayed
>crowd cheers for it the loudest
im starting to think you fags are just parroting shit you hear from some other jaded wow player
>>532289748>the people who were willing to buy tickets to a corporate event are cheering the loudest for the newest productWhoa...
>>532289937That argument works if they were given the option to jeer or boo at the event they're paying for.... wait a minute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50KBNQe5hTM
>>532288794>it literally cannot you fucking retard ESL holy shit. if it was designed that way its not emergentYou got baited, since you don't need to use 1t flicks to clear the inferno. You do need to use 1t alts though. But you won't know if that is emergent or not because you can't know what is what with your limited wowbrain.
>I already explained whyYou told me that people like to give 200usd away for nothing but didn't explain why only 100k people have the BiS cape when the only real requirement is having ancients which millions have.
>they buy carries for their weekly vault all the time retardYou mean the ones paid with ingame gold?
>theres not millions of people playing your shit game lmao100k people have 1 kc, way more than 1 million have minimum stats for inferno
>half the timers are off of debuffs on players, and the mechanic being on a timer doesnt mean its not random where it goes and how to respondSo the debuffs are on a timer or on-condition triggers but they're also random? What the fuck are you talking about.
>https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/mage/fire/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dpsNo, I asked you to explain the boss fight you keep trying to claim is random and not on a schedule, while there are multiple timers and the RL is calling out the next step in advance. How is he doing that, deductive reasoning? Crystal ball?
is ret good in mop
i didnt watch any of the faggot slop tier lists
feels bretty good, i had to level to 86 with holy gear and i wanted to pop my top
>>532289748https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCPTAczXeL0
>turbodrones cheering means it's good
>>532290758oh now player excitement isn't an argument, right
>>532290992>if i go down, so will youIt's been done
>>532290180>You got baited>I was only pretending to be retardedadvanced cope
>You told me that people like to give 200usd away for nothing but didn't explain why only 100k people have the BiS cape when the only real requirement is having ancients which millions have.laziness retard, how much more clear can I be?
And millions arent playing shitscape, you gotta stop counting bots
>You mean the ones paid with ingame gold? which they get from buying wow tokens. the price of a keystone carry has always matched the price of a token for a reason retard
>So the debuffs are on a timer or on-condition triggers but they're also random? What the fuck are you talking about.almost like there are multiple players in an MMO (shitscape isnt one btw) and who gets targeted is random
>>532291434>no u + keeps trying to cherry pick my postsjust give up
>>532254218I am not feeling it either desu
Everyone was saying how great warrior is but it just has dogshit bloat abilities and feels worse than retail in most ways?
What name plates does everyone use?
>>532291918Plater or BetterBlizzPlates
there's a 400 player queue to get in, which is new
but when you do get in, there's 5-10 seconds between every action, there's only FIVE layers active
what the fuck is this???
>>532291648>c-cherry pickinglmoa
>>532291696Warrior was trashed in MoP, it was one of the earliest victims of the "Legion spec rape"
DPS specs have more bing-bing wahoo attraction, if you like ADHD buttonmashing, but prot is just terrible.
>>532291696>>532292872You troonies have gotta try harder.
>>532292542Then why did you ignore entire parts of my post
You ignored
> since you don't need to use 1t flicks to clear the inferno. You do need to use 1t alts though. But you won't know if that is emergent or not because you can't know what is what with your limited wowbrain.Also you ended up conceeding that the only parts in the fight that are random are the debuff targets and what those targets have to do with the debuff when you earlier tried to claim everything in the fight is random besides the tank mechanic, and that the fight is not on a schedule despite you now claiming that it's on a schedule since the timers aren't random.
>laziness retard, how much more clear can I be?How come it's laziness to pay someone to play a game for you, that doesn't make sense.
>>532293039Not an argument!
>>532283909>tbc but worsejust wait for tbc on anni
>>532294467But that's literally DOA
Anniversary is already dead and AQ just released, shit's not gonna survive naxx
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>openly admitting that you play r*tail
i started playing WoW when mop released, is fury warrior as good as i remember it? or should i main another mdps? i main enh in retail btw, idk how it was in mop
>>532292136Game is built on the Legion client, and also not meant for shards.
The old nappy clients are lost to time. Closest is probably private servers, but still jut an approximation.
>>532293806every mechanic but tank mechanics are random targeting
random aoes
random debuffs
random bomb spawns
>How come it's laziness to pay someone to play a game for you, that doesn't make sense.deeply esl post
>>532294656tbc is the whole reason they released anni which is why people keep asking if its going to become the next era server for tbc
>>532294881>dood the old engine was good, it was lag free even with 5k players in it>where did everyone go? I see people disappearing in front of me when they run away from me for 2 seconds?
>>532294742AIKA GYARU QUEEN I WILL NOW JACK OFF
>>532294995Yeah, that's a private thing. The real, REAL reponsive client though, was the pre-GCD hack in late OG WotLK (a lot of PVP vids from this era, looking at rogue.) Yet another feather in the hat of TOT.
just hit lvl 89
have not killed a single instanced monkey
working on my professions while shitposting in LFG
now I sleep and hit 90 tomorrow
I had fun
>>532296076Now come back for AQ, we're missing 25 players in our sign ups for Tuesday's raid week 2 of AQ
so in other news kungen no-lifed war effort opening then ghosted his stream and guild again
>>532297173>raiding with a dementia patient that never cared about you but "OMG HE WAS THE WORLD FIRST SUPERSTAR OF 20 YEARS AGO, I WANNA BE JUST LIKE HIM FR FR"retard if you raid with him lol
>>532265536>Why did darth vader get corrupted by the emperor
>>532277130holy goalpost movement
>>532297173I'm not playing or watching, but can't multiple people get Scarab Lord now?
>>532297636its crazy because he keeps doing this thing where he goes super hard on some project then fucks off for months rinse repeat i wonder if he's truly ok
>>532298298How is it goalpost? That's when they added in the Disney models and started pruning aka raping the classes beyond recognition.
>>532292872MoP fury warrior in SoO is the most fun version of warrior I've ever played.
>>532298312You still need to funnel a lot of effort and resources into one guy
>need to go from Hated to Neutral by turning in carapaces, faster with more people doing it along with you and have them give their earned carapaces to the one person>need a raid for BWL, Moonglade, Azshara>a dedicated group to sit with you in the 4 portals until the item drops>some other group only quests that you can't solo>all of that just for one(1) person out of 40 to get the funny items>the 39 gets to watch from the cuck chair>he then leaves so that not even the cucks get to watch
>>532298430He's been popping BPD pills for almost a decade, what do you think?
why is there not a boost service? i don't want to level from the start
Level 86 RDF, i think my queue is bricked. Lmao
>>532299510Wasn't it Bipolar/Manic Depression?
>>532298442well it used to be the case that people called retail to be anything after tbc/wotlk
>>532299574there is, they literally sell it on the official Battle.net Shop for $60
>>532298871>no bannersEnjoy not getting into raids.
>>532300264dps queue is just fucked. Tank poos instantly.
>>532300626either way it's brain shit that needs permanent medication and treatment, once you stop it all goes down to square 1
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>retard rushed to 90
>is now begging healers in guild to hurry up so he can spam heroics with them
>>532304372Should've leveled a gatherer to reap the benefits.
>>532301760>brickedI tried with boths dps and tank picked, it still took 25 minutes to pop. Something is definitely broken, because i see tons of people around.
how did they get away with it ?
>>5323056374:3 SD screens.
>>532305637What? It's a goofy, blobby dog's face? What is there to get away with?
should I play MoP classic or Epoch?
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>got parry and expertise gems from jewelcrafting dailies
fuck this stupid ass game
>>532279209WoD classic is going to be where blizzard has to make #SomeChanges because otherwise you're going to see everyone make 4-6 alts and run facebook missions to passively pay for their WoW tokens
>>532307483>got double living steel on 3 altsWinning!
>LFM MONKEY FARM - U.S. CITIZENS ONLY
>>532305637How do statues??
>server rebranded monkey runs into Detroit rumble
Based.
>>532307638They've already heavily nerfed plenty of gold farms. The plundered caches or whatever they're called for the potion of luck, are shit.
what's the most fun dps in mop
>>532278794>retard still dishonestly posts this misleading beta model how are you not tired of baiting you fucking retard?
>>532310180yiff in hell furtroon
>>532297173>cryboomer quits with aq40 launchname a more iconic duo
>>532309896too braindead and boring. I was thinking about it tho
never cry, never boom
enjoying mop while you doom
How do I have guild perks in my spellbook if I'm not in a guild?
Why the fuck do people do massive undercuts on the AH for no reason? Trillium was selling perfectly well at 800g and then some fucking retard undercut to 400g and then everyone using an AH addon matched their price.
>>532311720that;s what happens when you play on yuropoor servers where nobody knows how capitalism works.
>>532311720they're baiting botters into matching the price so they can buy the severely underpriced materials
>>532311720so buy it at 400g and resell it at 800?
>BUT IM LE POOR AND I CANT INVEST MONEYsucks to be you than
>>532311720Trillium is inevitably going to crash down to about 50g in the next few days. If you bought into that market now at 800g, you're an idiot.
>>532311129You don't have to be in one to get certain perks, it's a change they made in Scata
>>532311720Because crashing markets in wow is fun. Imagine how jews feel when they do it irl
realm first autist buying a handful of trillium for 800g doesn't mean other people will
grim
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>He went mining instead of pvmping 20x inscriptionists for darkmoon cards
For Vanilla and BC, what's the best duo with a shaman? specifically for trying to duo challenging world stuff/maybe poke around in dungeons even, so not really with a look to raid. Warlock? Hunter? Warriors the usual choice but I feel like it's probably bad for this specifically
>>532311720Just transmute it all into Living Steel. Those prices are going to be high for the foreseeable future because of the daily cap.
>>532311720>800g trilliumEU?
that's terrifying
it's 160 on my server
I don't think the game is bad, I just blame blizzard for thinking the cow can be milked forever
>>532313361This. The ESL whispers you get when doing it are delicious.
>>532305637nigga you couldn't even make a black character in WoW up until saint floyd died
>level 88 and still using all my heroic dragon soul gear
>>532315085try questing in the level 88 zone
can't believe Ozzy is going to miss SoO
>>532309745Don't know but I just saw a fresh boost destro in his greenies obliterate my mobs
killing summonjeets so much they keep their bots logged out until they need to click lol
if any of you guys have fresh alts that are still in in level 80 heirloom gear theres a vendor in dawns blossom that sells 372 stuff. pretty much doubled my agility and gave me 30% more hp
w-where's the AQ40 discussion....
>>532313893Ret paladin and warriors are a shaman's best friend.
>hit 80 before the server shutdown
productive evening.
whawt healer should i play for mop
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just got this from questing in dread wastes
>>532325407Compared to the 5-7 day long generals before MoP released, it's pretty fast in comparison
I just did a tier 9 delve. am I better than 50% of the people here now?
>>532325634I delved to your moms pussy
How did anniversary lose this hard to MoP?
>>532325634>he's a delvin melvin...
Is there anything more tranny coded than female human paladin?
tonights my first time tanking twin emps as a warlock
>>532326049female draenei paladin
>>532326049Female orc anything (at least in tranilla only)
>>532311720He figures that even 400g is way high and wants to sell as much as he can at that price before it drops way lower.
>>532326121how does your butthole feel?
what class should i make my fem belf
>>532319608Yeah, it's even better than old season gear
>>532294913>tbc is the whole reason then why wouldn't they start with TBC and also not progress TBC to WOTLK?
>>532328195Not even TBC, gonna be a minute
was mop actually good or was it just nostalgia
>>532329735Search how many mop posts there are compared to AQ40
>>532329735yes it's good or yes it's nostalgia
>>532324785I like resto druid! :3
>>532330514its not rewarding to do dungeons to level
no point in queing them imo
What server/faction are people playing on?
uhh, is mop actually based?
>>532331415>retarded cryboomer actually reads WoW group chats in 2000+25
>>532330887why not?
isn't the gear and quests nice?
>expansion with some of the best zones in the history of the game
>spend the entirey fo your time in dungeons
wish i never started using an mmo mouse
now i can't even play without it
>>532331340benediction alliance
faerlina horde
>>532333125i'm more talking about using them to level to 85
>>532333049you do the quests once and theres only two dungeons available at 85-86
and you get a single bar of exp from doing a dungeon
which professions should i take for my priest?
>>532333204faerlina is brownoid central. unusable
>>532333672so is benediction but its got the highest pop
theres more spics playing classic than retail unironically
>>532328487because its free real estate to re-release vanilla for all the 90,000 junkies playing it currently
so ya im playing ret paladin and its pretty dope actually
my main gripes with it are that you have 50% reduced damage in bubble, forb is a fucking minute long, and final verdict isnt a ranged ability
i think my biggest gripe with the spec is how bad the sfx is compared to retail
really sad they didnt bother to implement a solo shuffle mode because its going to be hard as fuck to get people to play with
is the mogu farm good or bad.
>>532330947>Chromejeet Good morning
>>532331415Yeah the kids in the chat have the weirdest names like Deeznuttz or Cheeksclapper, but they do say lots of based things
tfw no one to healslut for leveling from 1-90
>>532334794I don't use chrome and my google looks like that
>>532335004The filename specifies chrome which only subhumans use
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anyone remember reckful running around in here?
nostalgia
Should I level a fury war or a warlock in anni classic?
>>532336091I never watched reckful
then I quit WoW in cata
then a year after I resubbed everyone was like "rip reckful" and it was like you were a villain if you didn't know who he was.
what does it mean when a server is locked
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>>532331415>brownoid failed males can't handle the banterSUB
>the shitback doesn't like pictures unless it's mens crusty assholes
troubling
>>532337583please stop posting sexy butts they make me insecure about my small, inadequate wiener.
>>532337209that's a yt boi crybooming right there though
>>532333204Bene alliance is literally a favela
>>532337710No the only mongrels that report people for racism are the actual genetic mongrels. You're out here crying about racism when you're the first subWhite queer to report everyone.
>>532337650It's OK gomez. Your 'kind' shouldn't be breeding anyway.
>>532337921im white but that was still rude asf
take that back, slopchuddy
>>532337774see my next comment you sperg
>>532333861it literally cant be helped spics love classic its retarded
classic is literally brown coded
retail is for the white man
>>532333204>mfw I'm playing faerlina ally
>PandasFor me, it's Project Epoch.
>>532339285
>>532340631>wotlk client>tbc talents>vanilla cap and contentYou must be really mentally ill to look forward to this Frankenstein monster.
>19 minute dps queue
It begins
>>532341889>says he while paying to play on a mop funserver on the dragonflight client that sells gold and boostsKEK
Why RDF queue 12 min? Is dead?
Will I have better luck getting into groups as BDK or PWar? I don't really wanna play Brew
>>532343047BDKs are stronger rn
>>532342505All the tanks/healer are afking out of the first two dungeons
>>532342505Classic servers dungeons are always were terrible experience for sane people, with retards both being too shit to do dungeons fast without being carried, and too retarded to take their time because their favorite wotlk kid streamer like assmongol said that all dungeons should be aoe fest,
It was like that since bc launch, with retards both pulling mass packs, and standing in 3 rains of fire without kicking cast.
So everyone just avoids it for now
>40 min queue
>half the nodes are on the map are tapped
>server crash
Nice game
kind of really in the wc3 mood rn
>>532344061AQ is waiting for you.
how do you get retail nameplates in classic
>>532311720It's funny and I don't need the gold that badly
damn boys, Asmons dad has pancreatic cancer :(
>>532346857damn. they say that one is pretty painful
We gonna see more WW monks or rogues at 90? Looking to play whatever is more in demand of the two
man MoP has so much soul its crazy. I remember hating on it back in the day a bit but god damn, all the professions are actually fun for the first time since TBC, all the zones look great, Jade Forest and Summit in particular are just so damn comfy, to an extent farmland too.
its like the game took a break from being about apocalyptic world ending events to just be a chill ass horde vs alliance game.
>>532347039its pretty much the worst one you can get next to the super fatal brain ones. Not too long ago a reptile youtuber named Brian Barczyk died of pancreatic cancer and it was so fucking sad just how fast it went downhill and how in pain he was. Watched him from the time I was a little kid.
>>532345401Just like your power White top is waiting for you mutt
Mop just fell over and died
You were hyped for this?
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>>532348315holy flip is that a reference to the krol blade from world of warcraft
>>532348315>spending more time camping the exp potion than it would give you expwhy did they think giving rares a 20% chance to drop their items was a good idea
>>532348950>campingI'm gathering and happened to see it
By level 88 99 percent of your raid gear will be replaced unless you are absolute fucking DOGE shit
>>532348315>rares don't share>normal mobs don't shareCan't wait for WoD
>>532347060Definitely monks.
>>532347060mop isn't expansion where melee are in the demand...
>warrior in my group arrives to the dungeon in RP cloth gear
>swaps into full green iron + strike of hydra
fuck, that was kino. now I wanna roll an RP warrior too...
On Anniversary, should I do Warlock or Hunter? I miss Warlock gameplay type in modern MMOS with DOTS but I feel like longerm I'd regret it, I wanna solo hard stuff
https://www.wowhead.com/classic/news/warcraft-logs-bans-gnomish-battle-chicken-from-ahnqiraj-parses-classic-377851
>>532351986Holy SoD slOp strIKe of tHe HyDra
>>532352342>>532352160Nah fuck that roll priest
BETTER dot gameplay, can heal, solo machine, no soulstones its just better
>>532352978Lock is the ultimate solo machine, + has soulstone
Priest has one dot, how is that better dot gameplay LO L
>>532255117CANT CAUSE I TOO BUSY CRANKIN MUH HOG!!!!!
>>532352978Shadow priest is fucking dogshit compared to lock. I could pretty much solo anything on the lock I had back in mop
>>532353038my priest has 2 dots
>>532353102Sub par shadow? My smite priest always beat you on the dmg meters
>>532353038Bro your devouring plague
>>532353313Dont have it on my bars
>>532347105Pandaria really is kino. Some of the best zones Blizz ever made, and probably the only time the faction conflict was actually utilized well.
I quit during MoP the first time around because I was just burnt out on the game, but I always liked the setting. Happy to be playing it again after taking a break for awhile so I can dive in properly this time around.
my group rerolled horde, i have no idea what to play now...
https://www.wowhead.com/classic/news/warcraft-logs-bans-gnomish-battle-chicken-from-ahnqiraj-parses-classic-377851
Classic community is the joke
>>532353854>and probably the only time the faction conflict was actually utilized well. Let's not go that far...
The Alliance side was already a real shitshowโpraising themselves for massacring non-combatants while forgetting every evil thing theyโd done. Literally all of Jainaโs future mess started there, with how she totally forgot how her own army invaded the Barrens on two fronts, then claimed the attack on Theramore was โunprovoked.โ
Donโt even get me started on the 5.1 legendary quest chain, where dwarf commander whines about the Horde โinvading and destroying his homeโ (he means the dwarf keep in the Barrensโyou know, the same place where theyโd slaughtered at least one tauren tribe by Cataclysm).
For the Horde, the only bad storytelling was in the booksโlike Baine blaming his father for building a wall and saying the Alliance attacked it โbecause walls trigger them.โ Meanwhile, in-game since cata they actually showed why Volโjin deserved to lead the Horde: he turned down the Zandalari offer, and during the bell hunt, he told them to give it to Garrosh because โfuck the Allianceโ (and this was after Garrosh tried assassinating him in the caves!).
Cataclysm showed the faction war way better.
can you still model swap on classic like back in the day? is it against the rules? I want to be a human druid
>see a good rare is up on my minimap
>go to it
>watch someone die fighting it (it was a hozen)
>kill it
>notice there are three skeletons outside the cave it was in
>>532353854the optimal strategy for the alliance in the war is to surrender
garrosh doesn't want to rule he just thinks winning a war would be cool
he never even thought of what he would do if he won or why he is fighting he just thinks fighting is cool
there is your great faction story
>>532354654To be fair I only ever played Horde back in the day so I'm not as familiar with the Alliance side of the story. I am playing Alliance this time around though.
I guess Cata's faction war was decent too, but what I like about MoP's is the aspect of seeing it from a third party perspective and how it drags a formerly peaceful land into chaos. It's a cool angle on it. I feel like in Cata it got overshadowed by the Deathwing stuff too much. Which I know was partly the point. But the war is only really present in the 1-60 revamp and then feels pretty much forgotten by endgame. Like levelling from 80-85 you'd barely know you were in a faction war outside of a couple of shoehorned quests. I like the concept of butting heads while a greater threat looms but think it could have been done a bit better. Whereas MoP is pretty much a perfect colonization / scramble-for-resources story. Or at least, as perfect as you're going to get in WoW, the bar isn't that high.
>>532250297 (OP)Quick question from someone who hasn't played Classic yet - does it also include all the censored jokes/quests/assets, as well as the patch where they turned a bunch of NPCs black/brown?
started playing MoP yesterday with my friends for the first time in like, 12 years.
goddamn it was a blast, can't wait to play with them again
>>532337650penis size has no relation to pleasing big buts anon, thats not how it works. lil virgin over here lmao
https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/npc=248108/avatar-of-the-august-celestials
>>532324785I'm loving mistweaver. I do more damage than braindead DPS specs in dungeons and keep everyone healed.
I just wish there was a way to macro the healing orb to spawn at the feet of others
>>532326049female draenei protection paladin.
Very specific but its very true.
>>532359543>female draenei protection paladin.m-mommy
>>532326049Whats the most female coded thing then
I vote for Female Tauren Warrior
>>532359686moms should not have cocks.
It's that time of the day when the MOP server takes 4 seconds to register my DOTs as being on the target, lovely
>>532360791What's surprising about having fun with friends?
>>532361424Having fun with friends and posting here.
>15 min RDF queue
>9 min RBG queue
so uhh... is this going to get fixed by the weekend? I am literally not playing if i have to level with quests
>>532310180kill yourself furtroon
FUCK THIS LAG YOU FUCKING SHITTERS BLIZZARD
GREEDY FUCKS
Bros how come nobody else is doing their dailies...? I'm surely just early to level 90.... right??
>>532333204Like others have said, Faerlina is full of retarded latrinas. White people play on Mankrik.
>>532364653It's so trash lol
>>532364653Come raid AQ, white man.
>>532326049Playing female characters is inherently tranny coded
>>532370850I'd rather deal with the lag
theres only one panda in wc3
Why is the classic general talking about retail
>>532371659they have randomly generated names so in theory there are dozens
Finna sub and play some mop today I think lads. Is femsaken monk based or cringe?
>>532369145>no world PvP, everthe absolute state of wow classic
>>532356129yes, the game has been woke for a while now
if theres a stat squish in midnight would that mean mythic dragonflight stuff becomes soloable?
>>532372949Only the loud minority loves world pvp.
Retail was proof and classic proved it again.
How did Blizzard fuck up this hard? People are unironically leaving the game completely. There are 7 different versions of WoW to play right now and they are somehow losing players to fucking OSRS of all games.
What even caused this? MoP being too hard? Anniversary being too shit? SoD dying prematurely? People waiting for Classic+? Is it just hypefags/game hoppers that are following streamers? Would TBC and WOTLK era realms have helped keep people at least playing their favorite version of WoW?
>>532374801>MoP being too hard?The problem with MoP is that the heroic dungeons are as braindead easy as in wotlk.
People leave out of boredom.
>>532374568don't worry anon you're safe in azeroth where nobody attacks anybody else ever
>>532374801just too many wow versions
my friend group is splintered into all these wow versions and everyone is kinda upset that the others prefer a different version
then most versions now have a layered to fuck megacringe server where its so hard to make new friends since you never see someone again ever
the game works fine in all its too many versions but the social aspect is just dead and that was a huge part of what kept people playing
>>532374801>MoPNo one asked for this and not getting era servers for TBC and WotLK was a retarded mistake. Seasonal servers are the way to go but they cant just make seasonal shit for vanilla only. Throw TBC and WotLk in to mix it up and have a 6 month to a year long life span at most for each
>anniversaryHad potential that was completely ruined by not policing the fuck out of swiping and botting. They did this to themselves.
>SoDWent on for way too long with minimal communication on its future
Re-releasing vanilla was also pretty stupid. We had played it a few times by no with 2019, SoM, SoD, Era etc. Should have released TBC right off the bat.
>>532377542I udnerstand era servers tbc(but considered how era vanilla died in month it's retarded too), but wotlk by the end was so dead it's not even funny
>>532377542I asked for MoP
>>532378129Meanwhile Warmanes wotlk era server is still insanely popular and active.
>go to bed
>epoch general has 470 new posts
>Classic general has 70 new posts
what went wrong?
>>532380041something something no one likes aq40 but vanilla is the best thing ever still
>>532372949I heard Grobbulus might be making a comeback, and everyone speaks English.
MUH DAILIES!
>group up
>done with the zone in under 10 minutes
>>532379259>fresh every mothyeah, truly a mystery
>>532379259SoD and zero interest in Cata killed Wrath servers at the end of their life dipshit
>>532377542>Had potential that was completely ruined by not policing the fuck out of swiping and botting. They did this to themselves.I don't play anni, but what exactly happens when you have swiping and botting but no gdkp?
>>532382354cata prepatch and launch literally returned people...
>>532380041the only thing that can save this thread is a new alex arc
>>532380192elyina is a tranny
Who
md5: 4923c81c7bf0052284a1a127a6c34853
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Does anyone know if you can get motes of harmony from Theramore's Fall?
>>532380041unironically they released classic mop too close to the new retail season
they should have released this bitch a month ago or made you faggots run dragon soul for another month or two
>>532382917In the context of anni, people still buy gold because of extreme scarcity. You essentially have a single megaserver with over 20K raiders all fighting over 30-50 lotus spawns per hour that are largely being botted and hoarded. Botters figured out that they can manipulate prices with artificial scarcity. This went on until lotus prices hit 300-400g and people complained enough until Blizz added the SoM change for lotus.
>>532374801Nobody is playing osrs, hypetard streamers are trying to make it a thing but their audience are all 3rd world children
Nobody would be playing era realms, all era versions are completely dead
me, pikaboo and xaryu are on bene ally
Do you guys think Riko ended up ookin Kiryn in the dooker?
...so why would anyone pick more damage over stamina?
>>532386465Unless youre a tank why would you take stamina over damage?
back to 3 days threads I see
Each darkmoon card is going for between 10k and 20k gold on my realm... Is anyone actually going to pay 200k just for a trinket?
>>532392171nobody's paying that, and if you see insane bids like that then it's just the auction poster's alt
what do you guys think a brew alemental tastes like? every time I do stormstout brewery I feel desperate for a pint of them
>>532396825They look like piss so probably an American beer.
>MoP killed classic general
lol
>>532399616everyone too buisy playinmg
How long until all the retards that leveled with dungeons exclusively realize that they have to do most quests anyway?
>>532400101I have to do WHAT!? You mean I've been sat in Orgrimmar all this time for no reason?
Doomjeets working overtime for the 3rd day in a row
>>532400101care to explain? Which are the important questlines that I have to do?
>>532400101Lmao nigga, we don't have to do shit.
>>532386465+50% movement speed, self healing and aoe damage. Why would anyone take anything else? yall niggas want to go slow or something?
>>532396825idk but I never understood what the whole thing was with pandarens and beer
like shouldn't they be drinking rice wine or soju or some shit
This logo is so beautiful
I love the color green
>>532399483holy sovl...pandaria...
>>532404205Wine takes forever
Beer is easier and more versatile
money
md5: b8e473b0f53ffb37d4c9281417a92ba7
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>tfw miner and herbalist
>>532404205Its because Chen was a brewmaster in WC3. As to why that was, who knows.
IT'S UP
https://www.twitch.tv/mariaqt
https://www.twitch.tv/mariaqt
https://www.twitch.tv/mariaqt
>all the speed running trannies playing mop
>anni av is pure kino 20-30 minute high hk battles
I might have to rank another character if it stays like this
>>532412720>20-30min av>kinoretard
why are there so many faggots playing w*rgen and p*ndaren
god i hate these motherfuckers like you wouldnt believe
>play with boomkins
>they are both doing less damage than the healer
wut
epic bgs suck
the only thing thats worse are people that like epic bgs
>>532411914Who is this troon
>>532412967I'd rather have fun getting 10k honour + 100 hks for a 20 mintue match than 4k for 9 minutes of rushing last boss. you stupid tranny lmao
>>532415197thats a woman, chud
>>532413128thats like getting mad that current retail full of vulpera and faggots. Youre playing their game hombre
>>532415325you can keep that shit fast games are the only way to tolerate that horseshit
>>532415471>thats like getting mad that current retail full of vulpera and faggots.the only time i see vulpera, faggots, or any other furries is in wowg
>its a furry game retardIt isnt. this is furry cope
stfu foxxo god damn you're so fucking annoying
Are the dungeon spammers aware of how much extra rep grinding theyre gonna have to do at 90
>>532415601let me get this straight
>pay for wow sub>spend 100+ hours over at least 6 weeks grinding av (not enjoying it at all)>so you can parse in an easy 20 year old game that's rediculous dude. If you're not having fun don't do it, absolute idiot.
>>532416195>he thinks i care about parsing in classic
>>532415754I don't play mop and haven't played retail in years. My life doesn't such enough to be trapped in a virtual world that's full of idiots
>>532416316so why are you grinding 9 mintue avs...?
>>532415929Presumably they're going to loop back and do the quests on their flying mount.
It should really have been patched. The devs think them personally wanting it won't affect the game at large, and people's interest in it, but they're wrong. As usual.
>>532416518to grief retards at the mara portal
why else??
>>532416031Both servers I'm playing on are already cratering. Every single person in my guild on Grobb is complaining they can't sell anything. I've put probably 10-15k worth of items on teh AH in the past two days and none of it is selling, half of it's not even being undercut.
During cata I was pulling 15 to 20k a day on profs for the first month.
What should I be growing in my farm for leveling food or making cash? I'm a pot user btw.
>>532416807xd anon! So you are actually a parsing retard. it's okay, many are
1. Shaq O'Neal
2. Dredd
3. Jack Slayher
>>532417478>10-15k>'investing' in wowthat's less than the costs of some chicken beasts lilbro
>>532417478Why would I buy stuff now when the prices will crater next week for everything that isn't a daily cooldown.
i member when i sat through hours of queues just to quit first tier
>>532417478Yes, it was very apparent even during pre-patch.
>>532417885>broke mexican troon acting like they pay to winlol MoPfags really?
>>532418232>>532417885>conveniently ignoring that Wrath and Cata launch experienced the complete opposite trendA dead auction house is a sign of a dead server
>>532418589This. An hour of mining every day in Uldum was netting me 5 to 10k a day. Now there is no point to even leveling the professions.
>>532418589Basically the entire game is on the one Horde server, and to the one Ally server is really about med pop.
Doomjeets in overdrive mode
>>532418497I'm not Mexican and I don't play mop but if I did I would be buying gold yes, it's insanely cheap and not worth my time grinding like you
>>532417885>MoP is the best!>What you actually play? Why don't you just throw your money away like a good little goyim
Should i roll a dwarf paladin, or warrior?
>>532418864>playing the game isn't worth my timeThen why are you here mutt?
>not mexicanAll subWhites are the same stop humanizing yourselves.
>>532417710how do you figure that
i mean i care about parses but idgaf about classic parses, only filtered retards do lmao
>First MoP thread made by a White man post caps in 5 hours
>second one made by a fat queer shitback is still up after days
>coming up with excuses for why no one wants to play this shitty expansion
>telling people to ignore professions for making gold because swiping is easier
>zero rebuttal for the fact that Wrath/Cata professions were literal gold mines
The brownoid failed male cope is insane today
>>532418665>living in the third worldanon.. (I didn't even search by cheapest)
>>532419053because no sane man would grind r14 rushing av (not even enjoying it) to gank mara. And you clearly implied you had/were doing it so..
>>532419275>gbpShut the fuck up muhammad no one is playing on EU
>200k gold costs 110โฌ
Why would I waste tone grinding?
>>532419214Ummmm, troon sisters? Dos mio? Por que?
>>532419610The only servers gold is that cheap are the dead ones. You are making my point for me. Go ahead and swipe so you can buy what exactly? Nothing is on the AH because ntohign is selling you conquered mutt
>>532419742I have been trying to sell 400 ghost iron ore for 2 days
>still not one, single, viable explanation for why Cata and Wrath were great for profession levelers and grinding and MoP isn't
The brownoids are surrendering again
I'm not sure when Microsoft-Activision-Blizzard's defense force come to the conclusion that calling everyone brown for criticizing its multi-billion dollar corporation, but it's quite something I must say.
>>532419923>raiding as allianceI don't speak spanish or interact with subhumans so....
>>532419464>because no sane man would grind r14 rushing av (not even enjoying it) to gank mara.frankly thats a matter of perspective, but you're entitled to your own ofc
>>532420006Enjoy race changing to troll next tier for that 5% bigger dps.
>>532419923its SO over...
>>532419962>calling a shittoid a shittoid is le badThere are more important things than money in this world you favela rat.
>>532420152>more deflectionIt's completely irrelevant to the discussion, even if I was straight out of the Congo. Mr. company man.
i wonder how many ff14 refugees are in this general
what classes can best duo dungeons in vanilla?
>>532419564>he doesn't know his country is 56% white while England is at least 80%average American ignorance
>>532421598so are you lot going to get kicked off the website in the foreseeable future or what
>>532421386there was a pedo one that flooded this general in wrath
Just hit 90.
Some of these zones were even better than I remembered and finding questlines that I had somehow missed before was really neat.
Getting to walk through the uncorrupted Vale for the first time in 13 years was also pretty surreal.
>>532421929not sure where you've seen that but obviously not. /pol/ is quite litteraly just shilling and disonfomation so I hope you dont believe everything you see on there
>>532423141well ofc not but you got banned off of the farms semi recently
i dont live in britain so i have no reason to look deeper into the online safety act, i wouldnt necessarily conflate speculation as shilling or disinformation either
>>532421598The most popular name in America is John. The most populra name in Englad is Muhammad. There are no major cities where native youths outnumber foreigners.
>>532423807>>532421598>no eu, no usYet another psyop.
In my 15 years of playing WoW, I've never had the courage to try tanking before. I just tried it as a blood DK and I fucking sucked. Nothing was attacking me. I put death and decay down and I was tabbing around, generally following the recommended rotation pretty well. What else do I need to do?
>>532426504tanking isn't for everybody buddy. some people are just born with it and others.... aren't ;)
>>532426504tanking is easier than dps or healing but it exposes shitters like nothing else
>>532426504Use that instant "put diseases on" and then use "spread"
I can't remember what they're called but the first one has like a 45s CD and you have to manually frost->disease->spread otherwise.
https://www.icy-veins.com/mists-of-pandaria-classic/leveling
>>532426504turn on blood presence
>>532426504for dungeons, glyph of outbreak is a must. the 30 second cooldown is way too long.
for the initial pull, cast a single death strike to generate 30 runic power, then apply diseases with outbreak, then spread them around with blood boil. after that, just make sure you always have enough runic power to apply outbreak again when you need it.
>>532426912No, that's still retard DPS playing like absolute shit in their quest to top a meter. Even overpulls by bad tanks can be worked around. DPS have a lot of things they can do to save a situation. Retard DPS just pulling everything and running around without interrupting or CCing cause wipes most of the time.
>>532250297 (OP)God, I wish Pandaren women were real.
>>532428795>>532428538>>532428612blood presence was on. I applied diseases with outbreak and then spread them with pestilence, but I still lost aggro on one of the mobs to a hunter pet. I just don't understand what I'm doing wrong, every guide makes it look so easy.
>>532429785pets can taunt
you do not need aggro over pets anyway unless you want to reposition the mob
>>532426504>tab switching This isn't classic. Put on diseases, spread them and the blood boil.
>>532429785There's always the chance that it's the hunter's fault, not yours. If some retard left taunt on, there's really nothing you can do except taunt it back.
>>532429785Just ignore mobs on pets. Make sure no mobs go on healer, and they have sufficient mana. Secondarily, taunt off stupid DPS.
>>532429980That and suddenly 99% of hunters now doct know how to disable pet taunt.
>>532429785hunter probably had pet taunt turned on. don't stress it. just go again. I used to be intimidated by tanking too, but after a few runs you realize there's really not that much to it.
>>532400101implying they're not purposefully waiting to do the quests at 90 for all the extra gold you get for being level cap.
>there will be tons of retards whose first and only mop experience will be monkey runsthis is so backwards retarded.
>>532400101dread wastes is literally the only questing zone that matters.
>>532431043It's depressing that they've allowed retail's trash play style sully classic. But there are clueless retards in charge.
>>532432060monkey runs were a thing during original mop too. they're just slightly more well known now
>want to play panda
>also want to play lock
>>532432227Yes, they've also heavily nerfed many gold farms. Why not it too.
>>532433325did they nerf the frogs
>>532433325gold farming affects the economy which affects other players. people reaching 90 a couple days before others....doesn't really affect anybody else. at least not to the same degree.
>>532432060>retail out of nowhere
what you leveling?
hunter rogue and warrior here
all orc females :>
>>532434368That is absolute hog wash. Affecting the economy is mass banning gold sellers, this just removes it from the honest players.
It has nothing to do with the speed of leveling but the culture it engenders, which is deleterious to the game as a whole.
If speed doesn't matter, boost questing XP rate.
>>532432060nobody plays retail like that.
this is strictly a classic retard disease.
the types of morons who cant maneuver the game without questie and restedxp guides even in the expansions that have quest markers on the map.
>>532436506It is literally M+ pasted onto classic, what are you talking about.
>>532436862lmao no its not
>>532436862>M+ is chain resetting to kill the first trash in a dungeoncrybooms say the wildest things
I don't understand why people think that making gold in this game is hard. I made 200k in the last three days just from alchemy + inscription.
>>532437138Speedrunning AoEshit is literally what it is. It's just more forgiving because, and this is important, the old game wasn't designed for this degenerate play style.
>>532437710You've never mazed a day in your life pablo
How accurate is this if applied to MoP classic?
Feels like Male Pandaren is undoubtedly in turbo braindamage tier.
>>532437864Not an argument, Lilith.
>19g per daily
This shit sucks, I want cata back.
>>532438026Too many retail recolors on that to parse through
>>532438026everyone except troll into brain damage
>>532438026all elf players to brain damage
>>532437710m+ is neither of those things schizo
aoeshit is how you run vanilla dungeons
>>532438320>except trollMale troll might be the ugliest model on Horde.
>>532254218Real niggas play sub anyway.
Assasin rogue was always designed for low iq chuds who wanted to pretend they were reckful but were too bad to play sub.
>>532438609Once again, provided nothing of substance. But, you never do to these threads.
>>532439171theres nothing to provide, you dont know what m+ is so you cant discuss it
>>532439050thats a good thing
>>532439139It was the raid spec really. Every kid who idolized ecelebs went sub. Unless you're talking about some patch where he "made it work" out of autistic fixation
ah yes, m+, famously known for having the best xp/hour in the game
>>532439282>>532439171Thank you for your "nuh-uh" post. Quality.
>>532437710meanwhile in vanilla
>LF 2M MAGES SM CLEAVE RUNS
>>532439490They should have given those RP characters sprint/disengage abilities.
>>532439724That is literally precisely my point. You sub-retard.
are people really buying these new rank spell books for 2k gold?
>>532439970i spent 300g on a near useless glyph
>>532439874the point being that aoe spam is a classic thing, not retail?
>>532441638Maybe if you spam your buzzwords a few more times you'll make a single substantive point.
>>532442820>lalalalaa i can't hear you+18
I hate Rell Nightwind. I thought male nelfs didn't fight.
Has the population of bloodsail improved at all. I was thinking of playing a DK but that server is the only one i have a 55 at on alliance(Just played a lot of horde lately and want to go alliance a bit).
>day 3 and jade forest is still a lagfest
can these toilet tourists fuck off back to their dead game
>classhits getting uppity
im in dreadwastes now, cunt
sounds like a (You) problem
>>532444660why are you still in jade forest after 3 days. sounds like you're part of the problem
>>532445354im doing order of the cloud dailies ....
>>532445812>he actually fell for the dailies memeyou don't need to do them to raid lil bro
>>532446153f*ck you nigger i wanna raid cloud serpents
Vanilla>Runescape>TBC>Wotlk>>>>>cata and beyond
It's that simple
>>532446153>he doesnt know cloud serpent rep is how you get the cloud serpent mountsHow are you enjoying your first time playing mop lil sis?
>>532448619>muh mounts that i already got in original MoP and still get in retail to this day
>>532448227OSRS is a clicker
>>532448756NO NO NO
ITS THE EPITOME OF SKILL
DO YOU EVEN KNOW HOW TO PRAYER FLICK
STFU WOWBAB
>poopdickschizo posted it again
>only 1 healer weapon in heroic dungeons
grimesque
>>532450085Three dungeon loot tables are grim. Every boss has way too little stuff on them.
whats the latest volumes?
>>532451578DoA xpac is still a lag fest in the first zone. Vanillers are baffled.
it will die in a month
trust the plan
>>532451846true but why are you talking about TBC, it's not out yet
>>532452436it will be
trust the plan