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>Gacha Leaders: Filene, Aether, Titania
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Previous >>532234570

Be a good person

>>532258840
no

I'm sick of this shit. What deck beats sword? I don't care if I lose to literally everything else.

>>532258840
>>532258882
sex with both good and evil women

>>532258840
Or what? What will you do, Eudie?

What’s the verdict on infinity evolved?

There are....advantages to playing Forest

>>532259002
odin was a mistake

UPPLAYED tier list

T1
>Haven

T2
>Forest

T4
>Sword
>Rune
>Abyss

Forgotten
>Dragon

>>532258907
Rune, either variant

>>532258907
Rune, by quite a lot

Spellboost is dishonest
Dirt is honest
Simple as

Making half-elves with Arisa!

>Master emerald
>Saving evos for sv3
>Home of greedy decks with all bricks
This is the way to play

I've never seen this card before in my life

>>532259125
>It's copied from the n1 abyss jap streamer but I got it a few days ago
Do you mean the skeleton guy?

>>532259002
Decks that are complete from the set are very strong, mostly Sword Abyss and Rune. Decks that are half-complete are way below them, which is everything else. Odin single-handedly is making aggro better than control. Forest is absolutely dead.

Somehow still feeling better balanced and more fair than the release state of the game, good set.

>19hp at turn 7
>opponent goes face with super evo odin
>have no heal in hand
>albert
Fuck sword, why can they do this when they're so good on the board early game?

So are they gonna hot fix nerf rune or is this going to be completely unplayable for the next month? There are literally no runes below sapphire and in sapphire it's exclusively rune. The game is unplayable right now.

>>532259598
Sword still has no healing

>>532259649
so true swordsister

>>532259598
should've warded

>>532259598
your ward??

>>532259598
>had no heal
>had no knee-high ward
Fuck nigger what were you doing?

>>532259532
>Forest is absolutely dead.
It's apparently pretty good as long as you don't play against ward haven and ward haven isn't played much anymore.

I've seen like one forest player in the last hundred games

>>532259598
hmmmm honest

>>532259065
nnooooooo I don't want to turn into a fairy

>>532259598
Just heal? Whatever class you're playing, you have more heals than sword ever would.

>>532259693
Forest.

>>532259664
It has the tentacle and the potion bitch that was everywhere last set but has been removed this one. If you want to heal as sword just slot her back in, she's still a perfectly fine 3pp play.

>/svg/ says a list is terrible
It’s all but guaranteed to be good

How will the game develop when we’re already at the point any boardbased deck is automatically garbage and everything needs to be storm finishers?

>>532259762
I have seen 3 today and no Haven.

Give me a good sword list

>>532259664
Why does sword need healing? Very few decks can beat it on the board

>>532259890
In a year everyone will be running 1pp 10/10 storm followers and /svg/ will call them do nothing cards

>>532259649
>So are they gonna hot fix nerf rune

How many wins for master is the shitter cutoff ?

>>532259762
they're up in diamond master feeding on rune

>>532259102
abyssfags upplay their memecraft all the time
people are unironically shilling the "9pp - stall the game" card while dclimb+satan is still legal

>>532259753
I have faced like 3 Forest players so far and it was incredibly easy still for me. Easy to the point I don't know what their current archetype even is. I play mostly Dragon and Abyss so they don't struggle against Forest neither so far.

>>532260052
>runenigger downplaying

>Waaaaahhh my craft is dead it's unplayable!!!!
>Go on twitter
>See shadoba wins retweeting master diamond winstreaks of every craft except dragon
No one except dragonfags should complain.

>>532259102
Portalkeks...

>31% of all winstreaks on svwins are sword
>its unplayable garbage! rune is better!
svg means sword veil general

>>532259842
Face Dragon is terrible

>>532260187
>50% of them are rune
grim

>>532260083
It's a perfectly good card against 6/7 crafts but because it plays poorly into ONE matchup it's bad? C'mon man.

>>532260174
my bad, niggertal is T3

>>532259664
because it can spam out 4 wards with 6 different cards in the deck...

>>532259890
>use cards to build a board
>use 1 card to wipe your board
>use 1 card to build a board
>followers have removal attached
>follwers have removal and have storm
what comes next
>follower can't be removed
>follower ignores ward
>follower protects face unless removed
>accelerate game speed
>accelerate game speed

THE BUGGED DAY 3 PACK IS FIXED.
CLAIM IT!
Cyjew is not even giving a notification ! for it so you forget.

>>532260264
sword has almost 2x more winstreaks in master diamond than rune does

Why can rune spellboost cards to 0 cost while dragon has to play 8pp do nothing to only get half costs in topdecks? How is that fair?

>>532260371
Speaking of accelerating, it's kinda funny we don't have any cards with Accelerate yet. I guess they're slow rolling the mechanics... For better or for worse.

>>532260458
Yea uh huh

>>532260297
it's dogshit vs fast aggro as well
and craft play rate is not even

>Play Yurius against Haven
>They just Jeanne and now I have fucking super buffed knights on my opponent's board
This card SUCKS

>>532259598
Sword is the king of midrange, you either beat it by out-aggroing or by stalling and keeping healthy above kill-range until they burn all their evos. Sword without evos for their late game storms might as well concede.

>>532259664
You don't need much healing, Sword's gameplan is winning board.

>>532259404

I use it because of Odin. She can stop Odin because if they choose to destroy her, I get a SE bat in hand to heal Odin damage.

If they leave her alone, then that means they aren't playing Odin, and I can save the game with the 9pp 4 heal.

why do you never link the thread

>>532260535
>Sword without evos for their late game storms
Never happens since they can always trade favorably without evos

>>532260507
Should've evo'd your Yurius you stupid bitch. Play to your fucking outs.

>>532260653
They can trade boards but they will never be able to threaten meaningful face damage

>>532260463
Rune was never meant to be fair

>>532259798
>forest
if you're really playing forest, control deck is the last thing you would complain at, if anything forest is unplayable right now because everyone playing aggro

>>532259532
>Forest is absolutely dead.
Things only A rank topaz players say

>>532260629
If they use Odin on her you get no last word?

>>532260158
Dragonbros are all happy with this set even if all the better decks aren't. Doesn't matter if we can't winstreak, it's the certified slot machine craft of the set for dopamine hits where you can beat or lose to anything depending on how you roll.

>>532259959
Kagemitsu, Goblins and Coachwoman
If you're going to lose, lose with style

>>532260507
Yurius only works against other sword and only if they don't have Odin in hand, which they do.

>>532260713
I was out of evos because I had to fucking beat down Wilbur into Aether into Wilbur

>>532260819
if they odin a 4 pp do nothing you win

>current rune is just a hybrid of spellboost and dirt
I hate it. This is what happens when you make cards that are too generally good with barely any cost for the intended archetype. Puppet portal also somewhat suffers from this although right now Orchis is the only card worth running in artifact.

>>532259798
the fuck kind of retarded rose queen deck are you playing? roach is the worst matchup that spellboost has.

>>532260789
swordsissies cant fool the real roachnigger

>>532260463
Because spellboost cards are balanced around that you can reduce them. That's why dragons stabilizing cards costs 7 mana instead of 5 like a@g and kuon is a better garyu while costing 1 less

>>532260830
No because I'm not a footfag.
Would have preferred an nice ass with black panties that get more visible / dress gets more translucent with EVO

>>532260789
I'm really playing forest and rune is impossible. You can just say "I don't play above topaz" and the post would have been shorter. You cannot beat rune healing 24hp across two turns while putting out huge board threats currently.

why does sword get to steal tentacles AND coachwoman from abyss

>>532260629
If they are crashing Odin in to her they are retarded

Start playing more haven so forest can go to the gutter

>>532260870
>Goblins instead of Quickbladers
At last I truly see

>>532260441
is this chick any good?

>>532261056
stop playing rune first

>>532261157
I like her. People say puppet is bad, but it's fine.

any guilds open...

>>532259959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niM60kUJqEQ

>>532261017
if heal really bothers you, you will go use the same carbuncle deck as previous set, but no you wont because you're a fucking nigger, stop act like you're one of us and complain about the lack of card that works with tempo deck if you really know what the fuck are you talking about

are there any neutral cards that reduce enemy attack? i know dark side can increase it.

>>532260909
full?

>>532260441
>read this
>redeem
sirs??

>>532260441
ONE (1) free pack for everyone, holy cygenerous

>>532261475
I think I can see it...

>>532261017
Switch to roach bro

Have you gone through all 220ish card texts on compendium

>>532261361
>I don't play above topaz
Again, could have been shorter. Carbuncle does fucking nothing against rune. You have to kill them from 20, but you also have to do it with no board state while having to clear retarded blockers. If you clearly haven't played against rune this season due to being too low ranked, don't speak on the matter.

YAI

>>532261413
stop trying to make achim happen, it's not happening

>>532260994
Poor taste. Feet is making Cygames millions right now.

>>532261017
at first i though we're going to die because of haven's wall, turn out it just another aggro hell..

amalia sucks

>>532261591
let a man dream.

>17-14
>demoted to ruby
what

The Yaoi team for the win

Is 80% of the ladder still sword

>>532261646
and fucks!

I'm not a fan of this group system. They should just make it so that losing with lose you ranked point like normal

>>532260441
wow they sure kept it hidden

>>532261339
This list is total ass

>>532261689
streaks matter more because it only looks at the last 20 matches

>>532261734
they should've just the regular MMR system, not the one from good ol SV1 but actual MMR like any other competitive game. Its really not fun to play againts someone that 100% better than you

>>532261737
I had no notification ! mark for it.

>>532261778
Yeah because control sword doesn't really exist yet. And probably never will because they're never giving sword any healing.

>>532260441
>min roll
t-thanks

>>532258882
>we could have gotten evil woman as a leader
>instead we got knight stock photo man
>OG leaders are still $$$$ in the shop
Kmr deserves more review bombing.

>>532261896
free pack, stop being greedy

forest needs more stall cards

>>532261837
that's real fucking dumb

>>532261576
outskilled

>>532261936
It's double fucked because of how expensive the OG ones are.
80$ wont even get you all of them on discount.
I only need like 5 so the bundle is flat out downgrade too.

You love to see it. If he had been Jeanne, I'd have lost.

>>532261837
Makes sense. I just keep losing to sword since that jp streamer made it popular.

>>532261896
>2 silvers
not min roll

>losing as roach against control decks
Lol, only in /svg/

>>532262063
keep up
keep up

So what's the best no-2pp-followers abyss list, anons? I've seen several, but I can't decide on which one to run.

Have cyjews nerfed the spawn rate of the chests? It seems between reduced weekend tourney rewards and this, they are testing how much can they get away with before the goyim notice.

>>532261936
>>532262047
Also remember the first set of alt leaders were available for Gold as well.
Man I miss Selwyn and Mordecai...

>>532262169
play aggro like a normal person

>>532260380
sauce?

>>532262169
why are you running no 2pp follower
what's the idea

>>532261576
Just play around it? You're playing the only tier 0 deck in the game.

>>532262136
I've never seen it roll lower than 2 silver

i'm hardstuck between sapphire and ruby

>Tried artifact
>Keep burning cards
>Keep missing lethal
>Keep forgetting about icarus
I guess I'm sticking with puppets sisters...

>>532262249
Aggro sucks. In the current meta it's a straight ticket to topaz. I've been having much more success with control.
>>532262273
The idea is that Charon can reanimate two Cerb dogs then, essentially becoming your Cerb #4-6.

>>532262169
with how common sword is thats a terrible idea

>>532258882
Would make contract with and let her suck out my mane

>>532260087
They don't really have a singular archetype they're focused on. The most effective Forest decks run a good mount of fairy support, but you also want Roach as a pressure tool and/or finisher. Forest has a lot of room to play with tech and ratios, but their floor and ceiling are whack as fuck because they don't really have as much they can just auto-include to fill out their deck with.

>>532262308
git gud shitter

>>532262151
>get him into roach threshold
>he plays anne & grea and dclimbs and heals four times for 16 hp
This literally just happened to me

>>532262195
pretty sure it spawns based on turn count
i got one almost every game as rune

Sword bros...

>>532262363
I've been testing it in unranked before taking it to the ladder and the sword matchups isn't too bad unless they're full on aggro or you brick. Apollo and Vuella do a lot of work.

>>532260083
At this rate, next season aby$$ will be an honest T2 deck that runs 25-30 leggos

>>532262195
if you concede, you get less chests.

>>532262339
bro just run Phil
Charon with Phil is a huge tempo swing, stop tunnel visioning on a shitty combo.
>b-but it's fun
then it doesn't matter just play whatever you don't need an optimized list for that

>>532262490
Reddit is… basado…?

>>532262551
f2p abyss will be the best deck in the game

Does Portal even win anything this expansion? Sword matchup I guess?
I literally have a 100% winrate against them.

>>532262195
its turn count for sure, I get almost every chest back to back and I regularly play till turn 10+

>>532259102
dragonbros, we're still here right ?

>>532262490
I love Sword players
t. Artifact enjoyer

>>532262339
she already brings back one dog
i'm not sure completely dropping 2 drops is worth the second

Fuck I went second vs sword better luck next time

Is the shadowverse anime good

I just topdecked a draw from empty hand into twilight dragon and genesis into lethal. I am so skilled at this game.

Luna really is the best design shadoba has.

>>532262490
swordsissies were we reddit all along?

>>532262490
hmmmmm honest

>>532262795
pedo

>>532262718
>i'm not sure completely dropping 2 drops is worth the second
Zyasunn had an 11x win streak in master diamond with a no-2pp-followers list, so it seems at least somewhat viable.

>people complaining about rune
>open forest stream
>he casually kills rune with 2x norman barrier wards from 20 life

>>532262809
>constant complaining about Orchis and Portal
always has been

>>532262339
control sucks more

I see more Puppet than I see Artifact in master diamond, I thought puppet was ass?

>>532262754
>Is [...] shadowverse [...] good
lol
lmao

>>532262795
basedo

>>532258691 (OP)
Slutcraft?

>>532262827
>non sexualized child is cute and well designed
>must be a pedo

>>532262903
puppets better at dealing with abyss than artefact

>>532262892
My experience with abyss in this set was:
>tried out aggro
>dropped to topaz because everyone and their mother are teched against aggro
>tried out control
>flew up to diamond, still in diamond
Plus I enjoy the control playstyle more.

Uh god oh jeez

>>532262957
>acting like we don't know what he means
>on the anime website
>in svg
Lol, lmao

>>532262881
forest is the hard counter but sadly it filters all the retards complaining about rune instead of sword. a tragic turn of events.

>>532262953
took you long enough to realize

>>532262169
That's too greedy. You need to whale enough that KMR personally rigs your draws in order for that to be consistent.

>>532263034
Enjoy everyone's queen

how come the 2 cost do two damage heal 2 is missing from abyss?
instead cyjews makes everyone carry 3 odins are they fucking retarded?

>>532263034
Is it feet, AI generated tits, or instant loss rapebait?

>>532262881
Post stream.

>>532263003
you play like a pussy so control is more up your speed

>>532262765

>>532263034
feet

Do you prefer any of these card styles?

>>532262681
How do I learn to play artifacts oh wise one. Shits hard to win with

>>532263036
I mean you aren't wrong with the initial statement, it's just that in this specific instance no ill intent was present in my claim.
I really this it's a pleasant design and the mouse ear/hair is done really nicely too.

>>532262273
He's losing entirely in the early game in the hope of having bootleg cerb in the late game.

>>532262903
Puppet is shit but people would rather play with doll cunny than gay man.

>>532263226
Dragon really is the gambling addict deck.

>>532262903
puppet is simple and relaxing

>>532263226
cinema

I made it back

>>532263248
All of them aside from the fairy.
How do you even change the tokens? Like where do I apply them?
I already got bingbong for sure.
Do you really need to get lvl100? I don't think i had portal at any level.

>>532263130
>>532263149
>>532263239
AIIIEEEE I DON'T EVEN PLAY FOREST!
Also Yurius was in this pack, too, I guess

>>532262903
Both suck and more people want to have sex with dolls than robots.

>>532263420
>Swordnigger
doesn't count

>>532262903
puppet is easier to play and designed to beat aggro

>>532261936
>Sword gets a dishonest lying piece of shit as a leader
10/10 accurate swordbab representation, as much as I would have liked Catriona I can't be mad about Chadvarius stealing her spot

>>532263420
Deck?

>face ramp dragon as a face dragon
>get this
drakenverse

>>532259532
>Odin single-handedly is making aggro better than control.
I think you are severely overstating Odin's case while completely overlooking the importance of Cultivator of Malice, Winged Servants, Vuella, and Exella. Having more one drops alone completely changes things on top of Servants making Sweetfang Vampire considerably more threatening. It's not as if Odin is run by aggro exclusively.

>>532262339
>Aggro sucks
It really doesn't, but it's also not for everyone

Is kagamitsu bait for aggro sword?

>>532263456
Time to start, in my case she was also the reason to pick it up.

>>532263478
>Both suck and more people want to have sex with dolls than robots.

Heresy

>>532263226
the mc of shadoba

I'm taking BRICKdin out of my deck

I've lost so many games since yesterday I don't even remember my original deck anymore. Getting to diamond with abyss was easier last set. Unironically.

I'm sorry Portalbros, I thought you were one of the two petcrafts. Turns out it's Swordkeks and Runekeks.

>>532263539

>>532263723
>We could have had a beach park instead of this soulless arena bullshit
grim

Remember how you guys spent a week doomposting Abyss only to end up with the best card lineup of the expansion no contest?

>>532262339
>Aggro sucks. In the current meta it's a straight ticket to topaz
Can you explain why everyone I meet in Diamond plays aggro ?

>>532263590
He's fine in a face deck but you'd just be playing slightly worse face abyss.

>>532263248
>>532263446
Nevermind figured it out.
You need to find a card that mentions the token and then you can click the token name and swap there.

What do my fellow runebabs think about cutting dclimb?

>>532263867
Everyone in diamond plays sword, bro.

FUCK OFF

>>532263770
>Don't even need Jeno anymore
And sword downplayers dare to say their craft is weak

how do you answer valse evo ambush > odin evo > albert evo (or yurius/albert)

>rune just concedes
But I'm not even aggro

>>532263613
I have 1 Tit-ania, 1 Almaz, and 2 each of Rose Queen and that 6pp leggo. Can I just copy a roach deck and call it a day?

>>532263569
exella is an extremely busted card. storm is always good, early storm is ridiculous.

>>532263919
but /svg/ said sword is le bad

>>532263959
Jeno was only good when everyone had Olivia

>>532263959
nigga it's odin not sword

>>532263985
Kill them first.

>>532263909
>cutting your main win condition that is activated just by playing lesbos, kuon and onions
lol
lmao even

>>532263989
nobody wants to play against abyssniggers

Join the loli craft anon

>>532263901
Or just check this on the filter options.

>>532264005
you dont need any leggos for roach, Lymaga and Titania are okay but Im not even sure they are good

>draw 3 ramp cards early on
>no chicken
>lose because dropping 1 card with 1 effect a turn is horrible
>draw chicken draw ramp
>3 genesis in opening hand
>draw ramp raw chicken
>twilight and genesis are bottom 6 cards
>draw ramp draw chicken get discounted genesis
>no neptune and swordbab hits me with the sickest outplay of odin into odin into albert
>draw ramp draw neptune draw chicken holy fuck finally we made it
>opponent is a control abysskek and dies to 2 back to back full cost genesis with sevo from 20 hp defeating the entire point of the deck
lamp is peak
i might buy rowen and alternate between him and kungfu man

>>532263985
By not playing against Sword hehe

dragon is honest

>>532262169
Don't listen to aggro fags, take the control pill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=418i-lym8To

>>532263723
I'm struggling like hell today for some reason
And based skeleton man is back to ruby from diamond

What's the good doll fucker deck?

>>532263770
Its over

>>532262903
artifact is dogshit and the meta shift into rune made it even worse

>>532264097
none of those are lolis

>>532264283

This deck is dogshit...
Should I even bother crafting control?

>>532263909
Unthinkable. It gives you way too much potential power in the late game. What would you even slot in there that could come remotely close to its effectiveness? D-Climb is such a unique strength of Rune that, until they reach a critical mass of other synergistic enablers and a blowout payoff for them, you should just run it because nothing else comes close. It's the single highest ceiling card in the game. I get that it sits in your hand like a brick for 7+ turns and will feel like ass if you're getting aggro'd down, but it's literally just too good to pass up. I would say if pure Dirt Rune had a real payoff then you could cut it, but you've got no finisher so sometimes you need to fall back on Climb to pull you through the shit in those scrappy last few turns.

>>532264237
You don't need Grimnir
Just run a third Rose

>>532263420
>sword
You and the whole population of china

>>532264283
my exact thought
fucking tourists

>>532262339
Is that really worth it? You don't get Cerb dogs to reanimate before turn 8 or 7 with coin and at that point might aswell just play Cerb

>>532264408
I'm still missing three more legendaries though...

>>532258961
Rape the evil out of you with a strap-on artifact.

>>532264097
Would abyss be the shota craft?

>>532263226
This is what happens when you believe in your cards

wait but I made it to diamond by grinding more and sticking to one deck
I didn't improve my skill significantly to reach diamond
are you guys sure it's a skill thing?

https://youtu.be/ZtmFh-2CJ7A?si=e2Ggg9sTwUnggd2p
post abyss music

>>532264119
Ramp always has decent cards on curve when I face it. The only turns it doesn't might be the first 2.

But from there one, it's perfect cards all through. So whenever I come here and see people whining that it's hard to get the right cards I just feel like they're bullshitting.

>>532264397
Do you have any number of Ginsetsu already? Control Abyss is fine, but it has tough competition currently and if you have to spend too much on it then it probably won't feel like it was worth it.
I'm in a weird place where my pulls are all over the place, so crafting anything feels like a huge commitment right now even with 66k vials sitting in the tank, so I can't imagine how it feels for people with fewer.

>>532264586
outside of the leaders not really

Patiently waiting with my wallet open for a BP leader that's not dogshit

what's the updated Ward Haven list

>>532263959
Jeno was never overpowered, clear two things and die instantly on opponent's turn. I don't think I've ever seen him hit face. He's good though don't get me wrong.

I am so fucking tired of Rune mirrors I cannot do it anymore
>just play something else???
And get farmed by the protagonist class? No thanks

>>532264397
Control gets assraped by sword 90-10. If you have the cards already maybe it's worth it.

>>532263569
>while completely overlooking the importance of Cultivator of Malice, Winged Servants, Vuella, and Exella.
The thing is, all of this would be manageable if not but for Odin. Sure, they set Odin up, but Odin is what has just enough damage with a banish for a ward at just early enough to close out the game before your power comes out. Odin is good for midrange too as a flex aggro and defensive option, but for control nobody wants it really. Odin was a mistake, just has too much.

>>532262681
I was saying that yesterday but today I got outgrinded by 3 gildarias and 3 amelias 3 matches in a rows, fuck sword

>Remove Garyu for an extra Forte and Burnite
>Deck feels better
I feel so bad for cutting my boy like this...

>>532264785
downplaying never stops

>>532264726
Then who is?

>>532264779
0 haven card and change the craft to another is the best move

>>532264361
Piss off, fraudulent log-flipper.

>>532264851
he was always nerfed version of the sv1

>>532264697
Control abyss doesn't do well against ramp dragon, spellboost rune, sword.

If you're going for stall, it's hard to compete with orcas healing 2000 points and half pp cards. If you're going for stall, it's hard to compete with dclimb. And sword is sword, there's a reason almost everyone is playing sword right now.

>>532264024
Sword players are braindead

>>532264779
If you're going to play a deck with 15 legendaries might aswell play Abyss instead

>>532264795
Accept that it's a coinflip and just enjoy how retarded things get. You basically do nothing the first 9 turns anyway.

>>532258691 (OP)
One thing that's burning me out is the inability to make more than 1 deck really.

I can barely make a second deck going and I've been playing since launch

Time to rape sowrd sisters

hilarious

>>532264785
lmfao

Where are rikka and toby? Haven't seem them stream in a while

>miss bonemancer isnt even departed for the charon ward combo
KMRRRRRRRRRRR

>>532264958
the trick for rune is to have boards that make them waste evos and sevos before turn 10 and then you can win.

dragonbros, i did it!

>>532264646
It depends on how you build your deck. If you're a gamblerGOD your deck probably have more cards at 6+ than not and unless you draw your ramps you'll be hurting very badly. If you don't ramp fast enough you can't even play your phoenix because 4/4 do nothing on turn 8 is going to get you killed most of the time.

>>532264697
I'm at the same point as you.
I have almost everything, but at the point where it's like pic related.
Would need a minimum of 3-4 lego crafts for abyss.
Around 4 for sword, around 5 for haven, 2 for dragon etc. Only rune is fully crafted/pulled.
62k vials and it's a though decision honestly. I'm worried I might not enjoy it based on the aggro experience.

>>532264817
Yeah that doesn't sound good as I'm already ass raped by sword with everything I play.

>>532264795
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO I CANT DEAL WITH MY CANCER I PUT INTO THE WORLD
kek

>>532265212
based
>>532263420
cringe

>>532264024
I have not heard anyone say sword is actually bad, only that it's not the best craft (which is rune)
I think it's pretty clearly the second best craft.

>>532264795
the protagonist crafts are
dragon the shitter who needs plot armor to carry him
forest cracked overconfident rival who gets clapped by a villain and needs saving
haven is the grunt bad guy
sword is the forced comedy retard guy everyone hates
abyss is the jobber
portal is the evil jobber
rune is the main villain

ward this, fucker

>>532264641
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q147dV0D9vI

>>532265285
I didnt design this retarded class

>>532263770
damn this shit good

>>532265468
forest was the waifu anon

>>532265279
I'd probably just wait and see how things shake out for a week or two then. The meta has a decent chance of shifting wildly and it's really too soon to say what's actually playable. I honestly wish there was more time between this set and the next one because it's probably going to come long before things have fully settled.

>>532264641
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8g5QsT-RSw

>>532265329
the only ones saying that are swordbabs. the rune vs forest matchup is way worse than sword vs artifact. we're arguing about who is #1 and who is #2 but it shouldn't be an argument, sword is #1. rune is #2.

>>532265468
nah rune is the geniuses who love shadoba

I did the thing

LET'S GO GAMBLING

>>532261936
>Cool villain knight over Loli #7483848476
Fine by me

this is the best deck

>>532265595
*shadow

I can't believe I'm saying this but Burnite's crest is starting to feel like a wincon to me.
Not on it's own mind you, but it helps so much to get or keep people in range of a storm nigga.

Abyss girls mog other classes so hard its not even funny anymore

>>532264785
What the fuck is even this post. Do you want him to be immortal and just win the game or what

The last shadowverse arc was so ass. The saya no uta stuff before that was good but then it became about the power of friendship x 100

>>532265329
>I have not heard anyone say sword is actually bad
did you ever read this thread anon

>>532265732
shadow was the yuri bait

What were they thinking

>>532265604
But man this is the issue...
If I wait 2 weeks I might as well wait a few more days for leaks and then another week or two for the next expansion just as you say too.
What a bullshit way to release a game.

Erm, Swordbabs? I thought this class was unplayable? Why is it the most common one in Diamond?

>>532265850
Tanaka-san's games were too long during Legend's Rise, please understand.

Why must cancer like dclimb even exist in the game?

>>532265745
5head

>>532261970
Minigobu would love to play a game of Tatterdemalion the Crystalian with Lily gobu. What's that, you might ask gobu!? It's simple gobu! First Denka turns into a dragon and cums all over Lily... and orders slimy stinky Lily to stay like that until it's all frozen gobu! Then Denka ships Lily very far away so when Lily defrosts Lily is just a dirty lost urchin gobu! Lily's IQ matches the temperature of ice magic so Lily gets lost very easily gobu... by the time Lily makes it to civilisation Lily's pretty little dress is now a very dirty stinky and full of holes rag gobu! Sadly dirty old misters get excited by stinky cumstained Lily and offer Lily things in exchange for sexual favours gobu... but Lily is the stupidest idiot and forgets to ask for clothes gobu! Did minigobu forget to mention Lily is a crystalian princess gobu? Yes Lily crystalian princess hope of the crystialian race is the biggest stinkiest idiot that whores in every town in dirty rags and smelly cum gobu! If Lily was smart race like goblin or Denka then Lily would easily find Denka and steal clothes and food gobu! So idiot whore of crystalian notorious for leaving trails of stink and cum travel around every country having sex with old men and vermin until FINALLY stinky Lily waltzes into the halidom very rudely and demand Denka give her a bath gobu! So Denka cumbath on Lily and stupid idiot gets shipped far away again gobu!!!

>>532265850
>damn forte made an entire archetype usable
>lets reprint a better version for everyone and see what happens

>>532265038
We told everyone that the economy is shit, but people were wooed by honeymoon gifts

>>532265910
this general is the capital of sword downplayers

>>532265850
this card isn't even good

>>532265910
i fell for the ward haven meme

>>532265910
how are these stats aggregated

>>532265942
Rune would need a different cancer wincon if it wasn't there.

>>532265038
Why are you playing more than one deck?

>>532265910
forestbros...

https://x.com/Comet2purple1/status/1935346468707254626

>>532265850
>7 4/2 do nothing but banish
No one will use him after the next 2 expansions

>>532265789
power of friendship is based
it's the antithesis to western ideology that believes everything should be decided in 1v1 tests of strength and that only the strongest are allowed to live

>>532266065
It's my own records.

If you are not playing:

- Midrange Sword
- Dirt Rune
- Aggro Abyss

Then you are not going to have a good time in this meta
Everything else is complete dogshit

(Yes, even Artifact Portal)

>>532265910
Does Sword shit on forest or is forest not played because it's more difficult to pilot?

Portalbros... rikka is cheating on AF off-stream.

>>532266312
why has he not been streaming for such a long time

>>532265863
>I might as well wait a few more days for leaks and then another week or two for the next expansion just as you say too
I'm the same way, which is probably why I never crafted anything. No particular deck has grabbed me hard enough to make me want to cash in immediately, and I had a competent deck in set 1 to hold me back further. Now I don't have anything particularly competent into the wider field but I'm being pulled in several directions.

>>532266291
midrange sword and dirt rune both rape aggro abyss

>>532265910
MM depends on what deck you're playing, so unless you're playing all classes equally, it's worthless.

>>532263270
Rune is probably the roughest matchup right now since they outheal your Beta chip damage and also have the stronger late game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBFGliTxLIc
This video has an old deck list but the principles are the same. Delay fusing until you have to (8-9 cards in hand). Remember the Alpha + Gamma + Striker Ralmia combo for the Orchis answer in the mirror. Build the relevant artifact when needed.
https://x.com/toby_24ss/status/1946426028257419587
This tweet describes the general buff targets for Icarus depending on matchup. These are also generally the artifacts you'll build first for those matchups. The guy is one of the top artifact players so I use his lists as a guideline

>just had a 20 turn long game where I had to deal 47 damage to a runetumor's face before he conceded at 5 hp remaining
>he used all 3 sagelights for heal and 3 normans for heal, evolving 2 of them
>didn't even get the chest for it
Bros... I'm not sure I can manage farming the chests in this meta.

Should I use Yurius on my mid royal deck?

>>532266291
>it's a good meta every class is viable
>it's not an awful meta at least four classes are viable
>well at least three classes are viable
how long until we're down to two?

Just use your Vials anons, it is not worth it to just hoard them until you lose interest in the game, cash them in while the honeymoon period is still going and have fun before its too late

>>532266291
>Dirt rune
You mean spellboost dirt right

>>532266359
Pro league is starting soon so pros will probably stream less to hide information and practice in private with their teammates.

>>532262502
sword is trending more towards aggro lately, that build is going to get worse and worse

>>532266398
Only ultra rank points autism NEET fucks plays Aggro Abyss
99% of the Abyss in ranked in all ranks are right now Midtrol Abyss

Invest in haven stock before it's too late.

How the fuck does abyss niggers always have the perfect aggro curve?

Haven....
our hope off being good.....
is fading away....

>>532265719
Hard to give a shit about him when he shows up for like five minutes and dies. We didn't even get a match against them and I still give more of a shit about Finneas and Catriona because they got more interaction with everyone.

>>532266512
I use 2 copies, just be careful of Odins and he autowins the mirror, also surprisingly useful against Rune , just dont plop him down without thinking, bait out removal with Amalia and stuff beforehand

>>532265719
>cool
he's a literal fraud

>>532266524
i would have some filthy sex with that

>>532266519
>>532265910
There is a whole 15% gap between second most played and third
Statistically in Master Diamond aka the meta defining rank you are going to see an haven every 50 vs Sword games

>>532266594
At least we have the dankest memes

>>532266493
play aggro and concede if you didn't get decisive advantage before turn 6

>>532266291
I'm having plenty of fun with my 50 turn abyss grindfests howeverbeit

>>532266719
Sword players can't read.

>>532266719
>NYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I DONT WANT TO BE FORGOTTEN
he's a sissy jobber bitch too

>>532266291
>- Dirt Rune
Hybrid Rune.

Show me dirt deck that isn't also spellboost

>>532266291
>dirt rune
damn, i wish

>>532266881
What is hybrid rune?
3 witch brew 3 sage 2 Norman?

>>532266939
Parachan now also runs Penelope and Edelweiss.

>>532266245
The power of friendship is indeed based. I just don't want it being referenced too much cause it just becomes too cheesy. Maybe it's just cause I don't have friends idk

>>532265942
DClimb was only 9pp and came on a follower in SV1, they also had storm units that could be spellboosted down so they'd play DClimb with a body and then draw their storms, overstatted minions with their cost reduced, and a buff that gave a unit +2/+2(cost reduced from spellboosting) and you were dealing with 10 damage to the face on turn 5 or 6 while they flooded the board at the same time and they drew into a 2nd DClimb with a body then they'd do it again on the next turn.

You lads don't know true Rune cancer, even their end game wincon in SV1 at release was "Take an extra turn". Which included everything they played being able to attack the following 1 to 3 extra turns they took. There was no RNG, you just lost.

>>532266914
Yes.
Kuon and Grea are just too good

Can someone explain to me how is portal supposed to play to beat these invincible rune decks?

>>532265850
Is there any reason to use Mistress of the Fanged instead of Odin?

>>532266291
im having a ton of fun though, the 1 weakness I didnt like about artefact was you had very little card draw without bricking your artefacts but now your mechs draw cards for you as well as being immune to bane so alot of matchups are alot easier to win

>>532266914
https://x.com/Vqlknis/status/1946163042305331352
master diamond 10 ws

>>532267056
You can't unless they brick, im not kidding
Rune has so much fucking heal these days it's ridiculous

like what the fuck
HAVEN has COMPLETELY lost its identity to fucking RUNE

shit is so funny
you never see Haven heal for fucking 8 in one turn, but rune can, and does often

>puppet portal is nearly gone
>artifact is completely extinct
what happened?

>coin prim - nonja - valse - zirconia evo

why does this shit happen all the fucking time

>>532267034
I have played SV1, I do know the true cancer and I'm still asking the question why must dclimb exist? Does KMR really want his "haha I can play another turn" card so badly.

Why would anyone spend money on this hag?

>>532267121
Well you kinda need to trade or sevo with her to make her work kinda like Odin

>>532267212
shit meta with overtuned cards
two more expansions like this one and shadoba will die like sv1

>>532266939
this is according to parachan the most optimized Anti Sword Rune deck he has cooked yet and he flex in Lilathim too

>>532266524
okay but what i am crafting? ramp? artifact? forest? cabyss? some form of control haven? i only have rune.

>>532267212
Rune overbuffed

She will save dragon

>>532266436

>>532267163
>2x dingdong
for what purpose

>>532267056
unless rune brick portal and every control deck is fucked

>>532267212
Artifact is fine though

>>532266249
NTA but for it's been about 80% rune 10% sword and 10% abyss/portal in sapphire+.

>>532267186
BUT HAVEN HAS 2PP 10 HP HEAL

>>532267346
>most optimized
he is literally changing his deck every single stream

Fuck it I'm crafting a rune deck then
Let's make this ladder 100% rune only until they nerf this cringe ass craft

>>532267440
uhh haven downplayer bros? our response?

>>532267258
What would the alternative wincon be, Giant Chimera again where they just spellboost enough times to win the game? I'm not sure if that'd be any better, at least with this current meta there's a chance that Rune just whiffs their climbs and loses on the spot.

forgot this is a thing

>>532267372
stop early aggro

>>532267505
half of the deck he plays are literal shit where only 1 card is changed
That hybrid is what he use to duel pro sword players so it's right now the best spellboost variant in heavy sword meta

>>532267553
10 damage to self

>>532267532
>implying that a 100% rune ladder isnt what the devs want at this point

>>532267279
idk
new haven leader is WAY better too
like fuck

>>532267532
rune and aggro is the end state

>>532267258
>Does KMR really want his "haha I can play another turn" card so badly
Yes, and that's because Time Walk is universally fun for the person playing it in any game it's present.

>>532267532
you lose to sword, the actual t1 deck

>>532267440
Literally what is the point of this garbage? Why would anyone run this in any scenario? The game have to be elluvia jeanne level of storm heal cancer for this card to even be worth playing.

>>532267657
wish it did that (it doesn't) and earthrite doesn't struggle vs aggro anyway

>>532266802
the art of this card is amazing

>>532266719
>>532266832
That's precisely what made him cool. He was a great warrior and hero that succeeded in his mission, but in doing so obsoleted himself. He became addicted to the adoration he received, lost sight of his original goal, and developed an existential crisis as a result. God forbid villains be villains. Finneas was cool as well though. Catriona was the actual dud.

>>532267801
Doesn't matter sword players don't exist

Haven will get a leader Barrier eventually

>>532267832
it's a race card, you play to not get killed next turn and go for lethal across two turns
it's a bad one because haven can't do that

>>532267532
What game are you playing that the ladder is not almost entirely sword?

>>532267121
As a fun trick the turn before Odin.

>>532267053
Is that Parachan's?

>>532267886
it is literally half of master diamond right now

>>532267279
The face diaper on the new hag is a massive turn off. The rest of her is fine but the mask is a deal breaker.

>>532267609
This gets posted like 5 times every thread

Anyone got a good abyss non-aggro list?

>people actually read dialogue instead of skipping everything

I'm fucking done with this game and these retarded events

Rune shits on sword wtf are u talking about lmao
Only thing Rune is weak to is a super high rolled aggro abyss

roach fuckers wont even save us because they are scared of ward haven and that deck is shit

>>532268004
no
Parachan only plays spellboost

>>532267927
Your Storm eagles?

>>532267053
Where is the little retard anon that called Kuon a bad wincon in dirt?

>>532268041
Alright, see you tomorrow.

>>532267927
Exactly. There's no play you can make with this card as haven. The closest I can think of is this into storm Lapis+Jeanne but it's still shit.

>>532267801
>rune
>lose to sword
do you niggas even play the game?

>>532268018
saw the post like 5 above mine after pressing submit
i genuinely forgot about that shit card

>>532266070
To not get burnt out, I play a lot at work because it's braindead easy

>>532267876
>cool
He's litterally the forgettable faceless mid-chapter boss from the prologue of rpg games.

how does sword remove a 6/6 anne and grea without phil

>>532267186
Haven never had an identity, Anon.
Haven's craft mechanics are...
>amulets
>wards
>healing
Wow, what unique mechanics that no other craft has. Meanwhile, in SV1, Shadow had a better amulet-based follower deck, Blood almost always had better non-meme healing strats, and while Ward Haven was good on occasion it's not like other crafts didn't get insane wards like in Portal. No other craft is as devoid of unique mechanics as Haven even in SV2, though Sword comes close.
>Rune has Spellboost
>Portal has Artifacts
>Dragon has ramp
>Forest has Combo
>Abyss has Shadows
>Sword has Officer trait buffs and now Rally
Haven has literally nothing inherently unique to it mechanically.

>>532268091
Kuon is good but he is not a wincon in dirt.

This is the most unfun meta I've ever played since Alice Hers was worse though

>>532268161
Do you??
Specifically made rune deck to beat sword btw

Anyone got webm of premium lilanthim? I want to know if I invest in it

>>532268192
what kind of pencil pusher job do you have that lets you play videogames during it

>>532267832
Consider the following:

>>532268354
I work remote lol

>play spell
>+1 spellboost
>play follower
>+1 gorillion "spell"boosts
Justify this

>>532268192
If you have a job then why don't just spend money to make more decks? I only spend like 50 bucks on this game and I have 3x of every single sword, dragon, and haven cards.

fish is on my side

If Sword was so unfavored vs rune it would not have 30% playrate with rune at 30% too
RETARDS

>>532268283
they have a really fucking hot leader though

because aether summons three do nothings I can safely say omen will still have those do nothing followers, but their effects need to be way better to make up two expansions worth of assrape (lol nope)

>>532268293
Ah yes albert that goes through 6 defense wards is not a wincon, Albert himself is not a wincon either btw

>>532265038
>Thirdies are still complaining about the games economy
LMAO take it to steam dude. No one here cares.

>>532268392
so yeah it's just a pencil pushing job

>>532268306
>ALBERT
Literally every deck in a game with 20 hp loses to 12 damage face retard
Outside of miracle hands sword loses at turn 7 just like every craft in the stupid game loses to rune at turn 7

>>532267346
Penelope really worth the extra sigil over the cycle from astrologer? Half the deck being dirt and flame of chaos being 0 at start makes me sketch on it

>>532267346
i am unironically too dumb to play this. spellboost was easy to pilot cause you just have to play for onion witch, lesbians, and odin

>>532268283
Haven has me

>>532268417
not him but I also wfh and have time to play games read news and other shit
the game's not in a good state now with 4 evos and everything having storm plus they buffed rune too much to deal with aggro cancer

no sense wasting money on this

>>532268457
unfavored for sword is still a 50/50 because it's ladder

How do I cope about Neptune just being a better Garyu.

>>532265038
You are just as dumb with your ingame currency as with your real life money little poorfag

>>532268053
no one is playing ward haven at all because sword and rune both beat it.

>>532268041
I still don't understand how people endlessly complain about the event that you automatically complete by playing the game.
Like if you had to play weird decks or something, I would get it - in this case, you just queue up normally. If you lose, you get the chest anyways so there's not actually pressure.

>>532264510
>>532264909
Today, I will remind them.

Which class is the best for making a really shitty deck to destroy in practice mode for my daily missions?

>>532268479
I never said that. What are you on about? This is about Kuon and Dirt.

>>532268306
>edelweis
lmao, retarded streamnigger

>>532265038
just leave a negative review and fuck off already, I wish you guys actually used those reviews on the game balance rather than this shit no one with a job gives a shit about

5pp anne
6pp norman with golems
5pp william

how is that fair

>>532268404
Rune needs it or else they'll become a tier 5 deck

>>532268568
What makes Sword lose to rune t7? Would you enlighten me what board Rune can create t7 Gildaria doesnt clear?

Reprint it, please!

We need the roach fuckers to come back and save us from Rune cancer
Can't believe I'm saying this

I would rather get roached than deal with this

>>532268389
Technically this would have to be Alexiel effect or leader Barrier since you'll need the effect to persist on the next turn but I could see them bringing those back

>>532268679
my decks are dogshit in this meta because I refuse to play negro classes so I am not having fun and don't want to play

>>532268679
Autists are mad because their brain forces them to get all 5 chests and that takes forever because they are bad at the game.

Thirdies don't like it because they think everything in the game should be free anyway.

>>532268842
Rune drawing badly, every matchup Rune has it's either
>the opp deck rushes you damage in 4 turns to finish with storms on 6~8
>rune draws poorly

>>532264641
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1RioAKwePI

why did they reduce it to win 2 matches/win 1 ranked match?

>>532268880
I literally got roached today thoughdesu

>>532268392
I spend all day at work on 4chan and play master duel and shadowverse on my phone it’s not uncommon

>playing forest
>op drops their cerb
>reanimates 2 fairies
>concedes

>>532268880
Roach doesn't beat rune either

>>532268935
Did you misquote because you didnt even attempt to answer my question

>>532268679
>If you lose, you get the chest anyways
Anon, I...

>>532268679
It takes too long to get everything out of the event. 5 chests can easily take an hour depend on what you play.
If you don't care about that shit then everything is fine. I skip events in this game regularly because idfc.

>>532268842
hey, dirtGODS here, if you play Nono at t5 then evo it, then t6 with Norman / angrea, as long as they dont pull Gildaria, its an instant win, Assuming they dont have massive board advantage for the first 4 turn of course.

>>532268880
Roach loses to everything else so it's not worth it, they'll randomly derank from diamond to ruby and never face the rune dominance in sapphire

>>532268970
people complained about the chores being too long
good change my playtime is not evenly spread throughout the week

>>532269102
>an hour
that's the good end
took me 12 wins today across 3 hours.

>>532268970
Because people that don't play rune can't just win 4-5 games in less than 5 hours

bros she's secretly good wtf

>>532269062
Back in the good old days of sv1 if you lost, the chest was gone

>>532268642
yeah, swordbabs aren't used to losing anything other than the mirror so a 50/50 might as well be 9/11 of them.

>>532268970
Because win 4 ranked games is 8 games on average, 1-2 hours of playtime. Some people have life. Go take a shower btw, you smell.

>>532268602
>>532268417
Basically this, the format isn't super good.
It's like after turn 4-5 every card HAS to flip the board or it's bad

>>532269062
The next game will have the chest until you win, there's actually no pressure.

>>532269108
>as long as they dont pull Gildaria

>chests barely spawn
>when they do they barely give me anything
Yeah, nah. Not bothering with this shit today.

>>532269241
She'd see play if she wasn't printed in the same set as Odin who does basically the same thing.

>>532269241
>7pp do nothing
>good

>>532268574
it's 1 off and you have YEAH TANOSHI

>>532269357
its a cheat card, alright

>>532269108
Do you realize how stupid you sound? If you play 2 specific cards on their respective turns, you get countered by a single card? How is that good for you?

Puppet portal is too strong...

>>532269102
why are you even in the general for a game you hate so much that playing it for an hour is too much for you

>>532269375
Do you like playing this game? Or do you just like getting things "for free"

- Reduce Albert's attack to 2
- Remove the heal from Norman

I have fixed your game
You can thank me however you want.

>>532269464
actually bricked charon pool

>>532268880
I play artifact and don't mind rune

>>532269562
If you're having problems with Albert, you're playing a bad deck

Hewwo bwos and sisters I have some advice for you nya~

1) After 3 turns it’s not considered leaving anymore nya!
2) These means chests can spawn after that game nya!
3) You can fish for chests this way for easy dailies nya!
4) You also derank to Topaz so it’s easier games nya!

>>532269426
She does 6 burn damage to the enemy face, anon.

>>532269334
>until you win
Therein lies the problem. Getting the daily chore rewards is non-deterministic. For people who actually have shit to do, this could eat up a lot of time. Picture this from the view of a "normal" player. If you're bothering to grind out chests, then you probably need the resources they provide to improve your decks, which means you're not playing an optimal deck most likely. If you run into ranked to get your chests, you have a decent chance of getting your ass blown out by random cancer. Even the best players can't guarantee a win by playing perfectly by nature of the game.
Now factor in that chests sometimes just won't appear. I've gone 5+ games without a chest appearing. This event does not respect your time in the slightest.

>>532269562
both cards would still see play btw

>>532269402
She's better than Odin against certain matchups because she board locks. That's 2 slots the opponent can't board vomit onto. AKA, it locks Rune out of Kuon lethals(especially if they're summoning onions and have a dirt amulet on the board) and stops Sword for flooding the board as hard.

>>532269108
they always have her and even if they don't they can still clear most of your board between samurai, lancer+luminous, coin amalia, etc
dirt can never go face against sword so them taking 7 damage from norman is damage they can afford to take

>>532269509
Where did I implied I hate this game you raving schizo? I'm just saying why people complains about the event. I don't have a problem because I don't keep playing for all chests if I don't want to.

why do rune netdecks not have foresight

>>532269497
My games against puppet are a guaranteed win if they have 0 or 1 orchis, and an almost guaranteed loss if they have 2+ orchis.

>>532269686
>If you are unemployed you have all the time in the world to grind meaningless rewards
>If you are employed you dont have to grind meaningless rewards because you can probably affort to spend $20 to get 10x the stuff

>>532265038
>I can barely make a second deck going and I've been playing since launch
I have two decks and am f2p + hoarded all my rupees + didn't reroll
Maybe next time dont try to build 7 decks at once lmao

>>532269562
More like
>evolving the follower replaces storm with rush for that turn
here, fixed your kusoge

>>532269653
why does every sword list run 3x albert?

>>532269828
>1pp do nothing

so when is non-spellboost dirtrune better than the spellboost hybrid

>>532268704
You can make a deck with only high cost cards so they can't play anything.

>>532269485
i might not explain it fully because i assumed everyone already know dirt wincon, but even after they throw gildaria we still have in our wincon range as long as we can hit them with 6 damage in the first 6 turn. Obviously it wont work if dirt brick or enemy somehow pull double gildaria somehow..

tl;dr dirt does favored againts aggro sword as single gildaria wont stop us as long as we're not brick

>>532269587
Say something that isn't completely braindead for once

>>532269828
foresight is -1 mana on a lot of turns for no actual benefit, since your minions spellboost much better than casting spells does.

I think the 6pp zombie guy isnt that great of a card after having played a lot of games with him

>>532269902
why does every rune list run 3x AG?

Artifact bros I need your guidance. Every game I play feels like a 50/50 and even when I make the best possible line imo. I always know the opponent has an out that can put me in a very bad position and I have to pray that he doesnt have it.

tldr: feels like every game I won with artifact is from opponent bricking/doesnt have an answer, is that how artifact win?

>>532269719
she's also a 10/10 which is hard even for super'd followers to kill, forcing wasted resources on hard removal, and the damage ping works well against barrier wards if it gets to that

>>532269902
>why does every [deck] run 3 of [good card]
By that logic Norman isn't a problem btw

>>532269796
>playing the game for an hour is too long
that's where you said it

>>532270125
its the only okayish 5 drop in rune

I'm pretty much destitute but I have a lot of decks it'll build back up. Is haven concede better than abyss concede?

>>532270128
stop trying to build gundam and your gameplay will improve tenfold

How are sword babs getting insane streaks
https://shadowverse-wins.com/?leader=R&mp=Master&format=rotation&seasonId=62&group=diamond

A reminder that Sword is only oppressive because of the constant threat of Enhanced Albert jizzing down your throat!
A reminder that Rune is only oppressive because they can heal 8 in one turn for whatever gofforsaken reason the Daria fucker at Cygames made it so!

Reduce Albert's attack to 2
Remove Norman heal

Game is immediately fixed and playable again!

What's a good roach deck now? I feel like Lymaga makes it too evo-hungry

>>532270186
Retard. Take your meds.

>>532270261
No bad matchups

>>532270261
>Why is a broken deck getting good winstreaks
It's a mystery.

>>532270261
>How
It's the strongest deck in the game

>>532269670
If you don't need the burn she potentially stops up to 5 followers on board too

>>532270261
>how does the overall best deck right now have the most winstreaks?
Gee , I dont know, maybe ALL of their opponents bricked?

>>532269992
not trying to upplay dirt, as we're still fucked by other deck that not aggro. And its true that aggro sword is a cheat deck that somehow can survive a long game, which is the hardest aggro for us to beat as well

>>532269931
When it gets ways to cash in dirt for damage. Pure Dirt needs a Magisa, Levi, or similar payoff so that it can actually play in the early to mid game.

>>532270237
that's the problem, I dont even try to build gundam and play the safe long game (very few beta attempts unless I know I have the cards to pull it off). But every game is a 50/50 coinflip against aggro abyss, mid sword and rune. The only matchup I feels good against are forest, haven and mirror. Dragon is total coinflip if they pull off the roost highroll...

>>532269828
It's followerboost, not spellboost, retard.

>>532269839
really puts it into perspective when 20 dollars can buy you more packs that you can earn doing all 5 chests every day for 10 days

>>532270125
5pp 11/11 burn 3 boost 3 ward rush

>>532270265
No, nerf DClimb's cost to 23 and Gildaria to require a SEVO for her effect

>>532269931
when they give us levi and forbidden darkmage, and a lot more sigil generation, AND increase earth rite costs so that spellniggers can't steal dirt cards

>>532270373
People keep underrating Lilanthem but she just stomps a lot of slow match ups. She's run in dshift specifically because she's wins the mirror.

>>532270268
You don't need to evo ligma at all she's awful vs haven but haven might as well not exist anyways

>>532269931
next set hopefully
Right now pure dirt doesn't exist because it falls apart without A&G and Kuon

>>532270497
Which is why I know all these retards crying about having to grind 5 chests a day are broke little SEAmonkeys

>>532270261
>18 winstreak
>3x olivia
>0x odin
but you guys told me odin is good

>>532270206
Your onion girl?

>>532270586
not trying to underrate her, but she's a brick if you're not fighting control deck. She's like a last resort you dont really want to use, i meant, even with aura, she's just mordecai

>>532270115
Undead Soldier is great if you aren't staring down the barrel of a shotgun going into turn 7, but that's wishful thinking when everyone and their mother is running Odin or some other bullshit at that price point. Setting him up going into your Cerberus turns can be amazing, but sometimes he just gets answer while your opponent also sets up their own board and you just get hosed. Gildaria deals with him easily, Rune deals with him easily, Forest just kills you, even Haven can set up so that they aren't really threatened by a couple recursive shitters.

>Rune players run a 3 pp heal 4
>Haven players refuse to run their 3 cost heal 4
>Instead complain about rune stealing their identity

Does Damus seem kinda OP for it's cost to anyone else?
I'm about to replace Phildau with it, it just seems like a better version of it.

>>532270265
rune is slightly oppressive only because it can wipe your board every turn and then instakill you from full HP on turn 10 >>532261576

Yeah I'm thinking sword isn't that good desu. Solid T2 at best.

>>532270268
the benefit of lymaga is you don't need carbuncle because she does 4 unhealable damage, up to possibly 7, and her fanfare effect means you don't have to waste resources clearing opponent's board before your roach turn
13 hp is easy feasting for roach

>>532270261
Didn't read the post but I want to have sex with that doll.

>>532270261
good early game
good late game
good draw
cards that do things without evo
good finishers
overstatted followers
snowballs hard
every card is must-answer or you lose on the spot

>>532270746
Its a 2 cost heal 4. But they'd still rather die to Abyss than ever put it in their deck.

>>532270261
simple, this stat is a lie, sword is too weak for this

>>532267607
I'd be fine with dclimb if rune actually has to work for the resources to activate the card. Right now rune just gets the resources by playing normally really good cards like A&G and Kuon.

>>532270605
I have plenty of money and refuse to give KMR money on principle
Playtime including SV1 is over 1500 hours btw

>>532270261
>play N games with a rune
>play 1 game with a sword
>repeat until you happen to get a sword win
>post it online
>????
>epic troll!

KMR please reprint this guy

>>532268679
>higher group people demote down for easy wins
>lower group people have an even harder time winning
>takes them forever to get the chests
See the problem?

>>532270261
Classic early expac conundrum. Sword has always run a braindead gameplan and it eats shitters alive while they're trying to figure out what the fuck their deck even is. It just plays a plodding, consistent game that puts you through a wood chipper. The deck will probably turn out to be pretty good overall once the meta shakes out, but it won't be uncontested.

>>532270851
And if you made Albert have only 2 attack (the only change you need to make) sword would INSTANTLY be balanced
crazy how that ONE change would immediately balance the class

>>532270987
>muh principles
nobody cares

>>532270128
You have to get carnelia evo on your most relevant robot on turn 4/5 or you just lose. Everyone else out values you way too hard.

>>532270475
you actually should beta if you're going against slow decks with little board threats, also don't be afraid to throw 3 cost artifacts on the field if your life depends on it
against sword you pretty much always build gamma first, against aggro you need early drops and then recover with alphas and gammas, fortifier can help you survive early
rune is a bitch but beta spam is the way to go vs them since they don't run destroyers anymore
vs dirt build gamma though
i also hope you didn't netdeck a list with 0 orchis because that's fucking stupid

>>532270901
>>532270746
2pp heal do nothing, take 7+ dmg next round

>>532271056
how many times a thread are you going to post this

>>532270578
>a lot more sigil generation
>AND increase earth rite costs so that spellniggers can't steal dirt cards
Spellboost will still tech Dirt cards then.

>>532270746
that 3pp heal 4 can also wipe board

Today I was reminded Artifact isn't for brainlets.

lapis is a good girl

>>532271047
We're getting new sets like every month or so, that's not really enough time so Sword just gets to lord over everyone else most of the time.

>>532271169
2pp + 1pp engage *

>>532271206
There MUST be a Cygames employee here.
Albert to 2 attack and sword is balanced!

Tell KMR!

>/svg/ constantly crying about the game
>People have no clue what they are doing
>They watch streams and shit while playing because it's so braindead according to them
That really explains a lot.

>top player last set was aggro Sword
>now currently playing Dirtboost
I'm noooooticing..

>>532271036
>Be diamond
>Play against sword 80% of the time
>Rune is the other 20%
>Drop down to sapphire
>Play against dragon and haven for 10 games in a row

>>532270741
yea every time I drop it I just get absolutely fucked by gildaria, I'm probably gonna cut him for some more early interaction to deal with sword's early snowball

>>532271221
fair enough, you know what, just make playing any earth rite card spelldeboost your whole hand down to 0 instead

>Accidently ranked up into Sapphire on a new Ho-less Lamp list.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Me aggro abyss
Me always full mull
Me game ends on turn 5 or I concede

>>532271383
You know this post is a lie because no one play dragon anymore, heh

>>532270261
Notice the lack of Yurius on these decks

>>532271473
Quick add ho-chan before it's too late!

Imma keep it a buck the haven leader is so fucking sexy its unreal

>>532270578
You know, if all of my time playing Dirt Rune, I don't think I ever actually evolved Forbidden Darkmage. It's fucking uncanny seeing anything but his unevolved art.

>>532271553
I did up until 10 minutes ago

>>532271554
Yurius is a weird card.
Thankfully it got released alongside Odin so it's just "okay"

>>532271553
They were all ramp so I guess they just enjoy the deck

>>532271146
I run 2 orchis 2 odin 2 sylvia (no karula cause I didnt pull any), is karula a must if I want my artifact list to improve?

>>532271554
Luckily I'm playing to have fun and not get win streaks so Yurius is always a 1-of in my decks

Who is this cutie?

>>532271815
she is quite alluring
get it

Best sword list RN?

>>532270115
Zombie man is mini-satan. Great if you can afford to spend a turn doing nothing. Shit if you desperately need to do something to avoid losing.

>>532271554
I still use 2 because he's fun

>>532270736
You're right but dirt is a deck that runs 9 copies minimum of low cost draw. She just gets filtered back to deck in bad match ups

Dragon will always be tier 0 for meme making at least.

>>532271719
Yes.

>>532271719
i don't think he's a must but he's good to have
also you can watch LVH rikka's streams to see how he pilots the deck, it helps a lot with improvement, artifact isn't an intuitive deck
just don't be quick to copy what he plays since he might just be experimenting
i'd personally run 3 orchis still

>>532271719
>check shadowverse-wins to see if there's any artifact decks not running karula
>there's no artifact decks period
>just puppets
o-oh........

Haven now needs to coin for salefa against aggro abyss similar to sword. Though abyss is much scarier than sword.

when do we get hand disruption in shadowverse?

Guys, I can't calm down unless there is a card to downplay
Please give me one!

>>532272024
Downplay the tanoshi onions

>>532272024
Quick downplay uhhh Norman!

>>532271815
Elven Princess Mage.

>>532272015
Also aggro abyss always has odin on turn 7, always

abyssbros what do you think about this list? I'm a little unsure about the 1-of orthrus. should I cut an amulet?

>>532272024
YAY TANOSHII!

so once titania captures daria and the elf queen
what will she do to them?

>>532271851
>>532272161
Thanks!
I think she killed this man

>>532272161
holy fuck

>>532272305
imagine being brainfucked like that by cute elves and fairies into being peehole fisted

>6 game loss streak
>couple wins
>7 game loss streak
>in topaz
>as rune
This deck is "overpowered" by the way. What a joke

So the only way to get a Seer's Gem is:
>1 shard from each battlepass
>1 fully built Seer's Gem in the top up bonus if you whale massively
Right?

>>532272398
You can also buy a bunch of 10 packs on the promotion for 2/3

>>532272375
in my journey to getting 50 wins achievements for all crafts, rune had the lowest winrate by far
idk why people say rune is good

>>532272305
>>532272365

I should have been roached 5 turns ago....

this guy's emotes fucking suck

>lost on turn 3
OVERPOWERED DECK GUYS!!!

Rune downplayers should be publicly stoned to death

>>532272608
you're fine big baby

>>532272608
HOOOOOOOOOOOOLY
AMATAZ CHAD

I finally fucking made it.

Will she save us portal bros?

>>532272195
3x Charon autofill

>>532272195
That's similar to what I'm running. I'm running Ceres instead of Apollo.

>>532272772
congrats, anon. which deck?

>>532272775
She'll save puppets. Artifact will be paying the Anathema tax.

the way countdown crests work is confusing it should just disapear after its last use

sakakibara was talking about collabs and he mentioned that he wasn't too keen on vtuber collabs.
Now that I think there's quite a high chance of it happening isn't it?

>>532272772
>rune cards in background
...
CONGRATS THO BWO

The ranking matchmaking is so weird. In every other game in the lowest ranks you'd play against complete noobs but here you have fully stacked decks with 20 legendaries in topaz

>>532272772
grats anon!

aggro is still SO FUCKING SHIT WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS

>>532271973
>>532271983
>>532272010
nah I decide not to craft him, he would not change the game I lost anyway if the sword/abyss/rune curve out anyway... guess I have to accept that's how the game is gonna be until artifact get less restrictive relative to its competition.

>>532272772
>rune
die to aids

>>532272954
please no vtumors for the love of god... those whores and their cuck fanbases invade everything

>>532272153
mediocre card that will only make up its value the longer the game is going
the onions also take up some space
>>532272156
dogshit card that drops 3/3 barrier taunt that will get removed by bane or wasting sevo on heals...
my bad... I can't downplay this shit

I hate the mmr system in this game just do normal rank system, the skill range in diamond is WAY to high so the top 1% players can get like 70-75% win rate pretty easily while in a real elo system that wouldnt happen

must be like top 10-15% is in diamond?

>>532272608
even a t0 deck will be bad if you brick like that

>>532272772
>still 2 dorothys and a kuon in hand

>>532272981
bruh if you are looking for quality opponents the only thing that matters is rank
if you want to brag about magical made up concepts of skill you can brag about how diamond is leagues more difficult than sapphire

How come I don't see many swords in diamond if they are so great? I want to beat them up with my artifact

How did the sword vs rune showmatch go? Sword sweeped 20-0 like should obviously happen since it's the most broken deck in the game or did he brick a few games?

>>532272954
>>532273093

>>532271860
Right here *unzips sword*

>>532272981
>f2p game
>People have legendaries
No way dude.

>reboot entire game
>winner is still decided by who plays more legendaries
nice fucking sequel retards

>>532273107
>my bad... I can't downplay this shit
it's okay bro you gave it your best shot

>>532273192
You have to actually play the game

>>532273215
4-6 for rune going first and second

>>532272608
I like how all runeniggers collectively made their already perfect deck worse by adding new garbage

>>532273215
Dirt won 12-8. One loss by dirt was a misclick when they would've won otherwise so it was more like 13-7.

I missed this smile bros

https://x.com/nase_dmp/status/1947293361314107685/photo/2
Puppetbros our savior is here

>>532272861
>>532272970
>>532272993
>>532273054
Thanks! I was playing control abyss for the past 30k points but after resetting three times because I lost in the first 5 turns I caved.

>>532273360
kek I bet you have a low IQ.

>>532273360
18 legendaries in my haven deck
It's quite ridiculous, but that's what happens when by themselves haven legendaries are quite weak.

>>532271914
She's, which is why some people drop her from their dirt deck

>>532273360
>dragon forest and haven legendaries are weak
>dragon forest and haven are the weakest classes

>>532273561
How do you like Rune? Is it more enjoyable than Control Abyss?

why does every class run 3x odin

>>532273543
Someone test this and report back, I am tired of playing rune & sword

>5-0
>1 chest

>>532273759
Why not, one of the best cards in the game

>>532273759
Because it's the best neutral in the game

>>532273759
>lets give forte with banish to every class
>oh no its fucking broken

>>532272871
1 of the 4 anathamas are good anon

>>532273759
Next you will ask why people still use olivia

>>532261413
Exactly what the other anon said
Achim is ass, the text 'exact copy' is retarded/non-functional.
If a follower is on their board for a turn and is able to hit face, you try to steal them to your side and suddenly they can't hit their face. Epic waste of 5pp and an evo point. The only way it works is if they have been given storm by Kuon SE or have storm printed in text. My guess is they were REALLY scared of artifact being able to abuse this so they printed this 5pp do nothing card.

>>532270773
just ban them from playing satan, it's only purpose is to cheat games rune shouldn't be able to win, if rune only had to win through kuon they would be significantly worse

>>532273756
Old SB rune was very stressful. Compared to that abyss is really relaxing because you don't have more than a couple of cards to play or worry about cycling at all. I only played a couple games with new rune but it looks like a good middle ground between the two.

>>532273958
Lilanthem is literally meta right now in the best deck of the game and Burnite is in a shit class but she's core in ramp.

I don't fucking understand the insistence that Lilanthem is bad when every pro player swears by her being a top tier legend and plays her.

>>532262645
doesn't portal literally have answers to every deck and you just play differently depending on matchup? E.g. ward haven is impossible to drop robot on so you just make a bunch of 3 dmg to face artifacts and clear board with the new 6/6

>>532272515
The people saying rune is good aren't subhuman retards like you

what cuts your pts gain in master?

I'm gaining like 400 a win while on master streams it caps at like 200 ish? why

>>532274289
doesn't instawin the game like orchis or cerberus = le bad

>>532274319
that's the issue, artifact play to their opponent wincon = reactive deck, SV philosophy never reward reactive decks

>>532274389
Your group or what master tier you are.

>8 LOSS STREAK SINCE THE CHEST APPEARS

I had no idea how kino artifact is until I played it myself.

Artifact players, I humbly take a knee.

>>532274483
just because you're playing differently doesn't mean reactive. you can still be aggressively pushing for damage even though you never expect to drop robot. One thing to note is that i disagree with a bunch of artifact decks getting rid of 3xOrchis, i feel like there's no way you give up that card to make space for the new cards, there has to be something else better to cut

>>532274539
Retard

Should I just cave in and switch to abyss and join the cancer meta?

>>532274528
how

>>532274754
Is this part of the hazing initiation process?

Is pure Dirt just better? So many games where the 7pp Oni spellboost card and others are just dead

The meta is pretty fun.

>>532274920
If you play pure dirt you have to learn how to actually play the game instead of sucking yourself off for 10 turns and then winning with Satan

>>532275006
...if you play sword or rune

>>532274326
I played every other craft to 50 wins and they are all much more consistent and easy to play (except forest) than rune
rune is a gambling deck that fucks you over more than it fucks over opponents
only people who let runeniggers get to turn 10 are topazes

It's control abyss!
It's control abyss!
It's control abyss!

If you have 3 Olivia, 3 9pp board clear with heal, you are not midrange.
If more than half of your games go past turn 10, you are not midrange.

>>532274539
welcome, brother

>>532274718
artifact needs very specific hands to be able to play proactively, most of the time it can only squeeze value out of its cards by staying reactive, which is why it fucking sucks in the odin meta.

>Orchis on 9
>Gundam on 10
Artifact would be honest if it was for Orchis

>>532275257
bro you're about 1 month late, AF is tier 4 now

>>532273360
This doesnt explain haven

>>532273542
I'm so tempted on buying her

>>532275257
Gundam fears the homos

Craft Roach for cheap, or spend every last shekel on midrange Sword?

>>532275126
How the fuck are these robots and dolls sweating ??? Why would you install sweat glands into your artificial human , surely there are more efficient cooling mechanisms

https://x.com/ALKANA421/status/1947216067107156380
Artifact suc-

*eats all your earth sigils*

Control abyss is literally just sword but with healing and less do nothing bricks but nobody is ready for that conversation

>>532274539
one of the two great decks in the format.

>>532275604
I used to think robots with all these features are stupid but in this modern era of AI suicide and fridges with apps I've just come to accept it

>>532275140
true, guess I have to give up my artifact deck for this expansion, the margin for error is too slim to play a deck that require specific combo cards to play while the pay off is average at best

>>532275079
If you have now wincon and are just vomiting value cards onto the field until the opponent finally runs out of answers then you are midrange.

>odin into coin albert into albert
>gildaria inbetween if they dare put a wide ward board
>bonus points for faggot princess giving you a 0pp rush bane
not even rune is this fucking gay

>>532275581
The first one if you want to lose to anything that puts out Ward, the second one if you like to win.

>>532275851
>odin into coin albert into albert
So you had 3 turns to play wards, heals or a threatening board and just didn't?

>>532275881
holy shit we have a prydwen ?

>>532275771
and without wincon

>21488 is dead
who will I erp with now ?

>>532275617
stop getting bane'd, you fat fuck. too lazy to even do anything unless you get an evo point

>>532275771
Sword has a wincon

>>532275881
>laura
>sword in B tier
>aggro in A tier
lmao

>>532275881
>aggro abyss
>S

>>532274920
>pure
there's no pure dirt for now
current best version run 3 windblast/anne/kuon
11damage kuon as a finisher is just too good, and good tempo past t7

actually you can cut 3 cards and tech in
>1 DClimb
>1 onion
>1 satan
as alternative finisher