Thread 532260448

bevy/rust edition

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>Previous thread
>>532203041

devlog from the Paradroid dev, circa 1913

I will come up with a better OP next time, I swear.

Is there a single successful large'ish complex game that was written in rust?

People are picking on Thor for his shitty code. But I don't get it, wasn't he QA at Blizzard? Why would anyone expect a new dev to have great code? I guess he did talk about being a hacker. But I think he was the non technical hacker. The "social engineer" aka "They left a door open and I walked in muahahahah".

Hopefully nobody looks at my code. I don't give a fuck about clean code. And in fact clean code is SLOWER. There are many times the compiler can't make assumptions when everything is abstracted out across classes and methods like it could if you just had an 8000 line method.

>>532260739
Veloren

>>532260584
nearly word for word the same as my devlogs.

>>532259294
ultima underworld approach
eq was somewhat similar
basically you have x amount of inventory slots that can house any item but can also have bags in them which allow for more inventory slots

>>532260808
thor is a narcissist bully so he can get fucked

the player can tell when art is AI generated, but not when code is, yet artists still complain.

You will never succeed without constant output

>>532260584
>have to alter the game so you can also load the debugger at the same time

>>532260739

Tiny Glade

I don't know why anybody would put themselves through writing a game in Rust or C or C++ though at all. They're just not ergonomic for it. For rendering and fast algorithms, yes, and write hooks to a scripting language for it. I imagine Rust is even worse than C and C++; C at least has some affordances where you can get creative with it, but Rust has all doors shut

Progress: Finally added some new decals, spilling blood all over when giblets bounce. This does max out the decal buffer super fast though, I'll add options to use a bigger one or else the old decals start to fade away after gibbing only a half dozen enemies.

>>532261153
artists are very sensitive. it makes them artists.

>>532261310
release in 2035?

You're not a real gamedev! "Brackeys tutorial on youtube", for Christ's sake? An online course? What a joke! I worked my ass off to get where I am! And you take these shortcuts and you think suddenly you're my peer? You do what I do because you have ideas for cool games and you downloaded Unity? I committed my *life* to this! You don't slide into it like a cheap pair of slippers and then reap all the rewards!

>>532261407
2099 of course, I'm an enginedev after all, and a perfectionist

>>532261310
looks good. but more importantly, do you say hard g giblets, or soft g giblets?

>>532261297
>Tiny Glade
The lead programmer is a huge Rust head and had been working at Embark on all their Rust engine stuff. He even wrote a pretty popular realtime GI solution in Rust. The woman tech artist also had a lot of previous experience in Rust for procgen art with Houdini. So it was ergonomic for them, but it's a unique situation

Every game with female protagonist needs pregnancy mechanics

I'm making a Majora's Mask-like.

>>532261589
I pronounce them as jibs, jiblets, jibbing, and most importantly, instagib. This is the only correct way.

>>532261501
I can't wait to make it and have this happen. I kind of want to post on Tim Cain's youtube and be like Tim, I made it. All it took was making a UI that wasn't insane. (Arcanum UI is fucking BRUTAL)

>>532260808
Piratesoftware is a raging narcissist and compulisve liar, he constantly sniffs his own farts and makes a lolcow of himself by projecting an outward appearance of looking smart instead of actually being smart
and he doesn't apologize and bans anyone and everyone that doesn't try to suck his dick and also shit talks everyone he possibly csn so he can get fucked
and that game he's been working 10 years on doesn't even have an hour of gameplay

Between thomas potter and grant abott I can't tell which one has the worse tutorials

>>532262698
It's weird how alot of these old games were sci-fi.

>>532263153
final

A moron made my game, me.

>>532263731
that guy made my game too. someone should stop him before someone gets hurt.

>>532262927
dr who and starwars were HUGE in the 80s

>>532260808
People are always looking for any excuse to abuse someone. It doesn't matter what the context actually entails.

>>532262927
it's hard to write sci-fi these days because we're living in a sci-fi world

"Developers" in the indie space don't realize that they're essentially writing software, so they don't treat it as such. That's why all your shovelwares are so buggy and unoptimized.

>>532262927
No it's not. Sci-fi is older than you.

>>532264710
Yeah I just either malloc a block of memory or push it on the stack and use it to the best of my ability. Maybe an assert or two to sanity check some things sometimes.

>>532264880
hey me too. are you me???

>>532263364
>final day
>decided to ditch music on the title screen
>most people that I know turn music off anyways
>all my sound effects sounded like shit anyways so I decided to just randomly generate them
he's literally me

>>532265073
Back in the day when you couldn't have analytics tell you when which players turn off music. I know exactly which track in my game is the most annoying. No, I didn't do anything about it.

how do i add amiibo support to my steam game?

I worked hard on my music. I'm going to force you to listen to every track. Or you have to mute the whole thing. I wish I could write a virus that keeps you from turning down the volume of your own computer.

my volume sliders will bottom out at 50%

>>532265567
*unplugs speakers*

>>532265480
First you need to become a registered Nintendo developer, then you need to get a special permission from Nintendo to use Amiibo on your game, then you need to use the library from the SDK they provide and integrate it with your game.

https://www.reddit.com/r/itchio/comments/1m5xlv9/our_game_recently_passed_100000_wishlists_and/

These people seem to have paid for youtubers to feature their game and say you can expext 1 wishlist per 333 views.

>>532266248
>These people seem to have paid for youtubers to feature their game
I hate that you have to do this. The only people I hate interacting with more than you guys are youtubers.

>>532266830
you could just maliciously spam your game on every forum on the internet using chatgpt to generate posts pretending to be some hardcore fan

>>532264880
>malloc
im fucking around and finding out, but malloc is causing me segfault while the same allocation with new is not... i know that new also initializes but for some reason my custom initialization causes a segfault alter... just use new guys, that's what you want to do 99% of the time

>>532266248
>These people seem to have paid for youtubers to feature their game and say you can expext 1 wishlist per 333 views.
I'm sure that depends on the game. My game (before I abandoned it) got one wishlists from 77 Steam page visits. If it were featured on Youtube, it would probably need 2000 Youtube views for 1 wishlist.

>>532266248
a 1300 view youtube vid got me like 25 WLs and 5 sales so sucks to suck for them

>>532267046
Wow it must have been easy for you to reach 100,000 wishlists then

>>532266248
I feel like these stories end with "wishlists are fake, they didn't convert". My feeling is that those are likely low quality wishlists. The people browsing on steam and wishlisting it are more likely to buy

>>532266248
Irrelevant data.

>For every 10 people who see an ad for your game or see its thumbnail on Steam, only 1 out of those 10 who see it will click on it.
>Out of those people who clicked on it, only 1 out out of 10 people who clicked on it will actually buy it.
>Out of the people who buy it, only 1 out of 10 will interact with your game in a meaningful way for longer than a couple minutes before forgetting about it.
>Out of those people who interacted with your game, only 1 out of 10 of those people will actually like it
>Out of those people who liked it, only 1 out of 10 people will leave a review (and it might even be Thumbs Down review on Steam where the person says "I liked the game but I would recommend the developer change this and this for the next game. Great job by the way can't wait to see what you make next!"

So you need to get 10,000,000 people to see an advertisement for your game before you even have a chance.

>>532266986
>just use new
So you're mixing C++ and C. I compile my code as C, not C++. If your malloc segfaults, you're doing something wrong.

>>532268051
If you're using C or C++, you're doing something wrong. Just use Unity or Godot.

>>532268420
I'm doing just fine with C, C++ is total bullshit though.

>>532267687
I'm curious to see where this meta ends up in a few years. More and more games are garnering tens of thousands of wishlists yet struggling to convert any decent percentage at launch, meaning Steam quicky buries them and they never get access to the true storefront (carousels, pop-up announcements, Discovery Queue). It's said that once you cross 100,000 wishlists Steam is willing to give you a launch pop-up, but now they wait to see how you convert in the first few hours before doing so. So even with Steam taking notice of you before launch, you need to get tens of thousands of dollars in your first day before they actually do anything to boost you. Storing up more wishlists is still better than not, but you really need to focus on launch day conversions and how fast you rack up wishlists prior to launch instead of thinking you've made it as you sit atop 50k wishlists that trickled in over 5 years.

>>532268420
Unity and Godot use C++ though

>the feminist group didn't attack any NTR games
hmmm....

Maybe I should tone down my 3d learning
you can rope in contributers and a publisher on a great execution with bad art but you can't do the opposite on an art portfolio.

>>532268695
Yeah so (You) don't have to. Just use C# or GDScript on top of those engines. What's the point in reinventing the wheel for something that no one's even going to play?

>>532260448 (OP)
This guy is extremely unfunny and his viewers are cultists parroting everything retarded he says, if you listen to people like xim you never finish a game btw.

>>532268624
I hope the new meta sees a much small emphasis on the social media side of things. The whole #indiedev #indiegame #gamedev thing and everything associated with it is the most obnoxious shit ever.

>>532268896
>What's the point in reinventing the wheel for something that no one's even going to play?
What's the point of using a full-blown extremely bloated game engine for a very specific kind of game?

>>532267687
I'm almost tempted to wishlist the game so I can see how it does, not because I'm interested in it.

>>532268896
>What's the point in reinventing the wheel for something that no one's even going to play?
to do it right

>>532268974
You have never finished a game and you have no game and you are a nodev, I win

>>532268767
They're catholics posing as feminists.

>>532267821
It's about triggering cascades. You need A amount of wishlists for popular upcoming, B amount of dollars earned to stay in trending, C amount of dollars earned to trigger carousel placement, D amount of dollars to then get a Daily Deal, etc. and then 10,000,000 impressions is a given. It's a progressive algorithm with gates at each level, and if you can pass a gate you get automatic acceleration. You don't need to bring 10,000,000 people with you.

>>532269119
Well for one, you actually end up finishing a game instead of spending 10 years making an engine. The agreed upon consensus here is that you either make a game or you make an engine.

>>532269465
But I'm not making an engine, I'm making a game. What the fuck are you on about? I'm no Casey Muratori.

>>532269262
Ah yes I'm sure you can make a better engine than hundreds of professional Unity developers or the combined effort of countless experienced open source contributors.

>>532269465
NTA,
but no off the shelf engine can give you this feeling;

https://youtu.be/8eYR9-BupOU

What is an engine?

>>532268767
>they didn't attack Onlyfans
>they didn't attack Pornhub
>they didn't attack Reddit
Strange, I wonder who owns those businesses

>>532269826
curious indeed...

>>532269635
t. microslop language user

managed to solve wall vehicle collisions

>>532269820
Reusable code.

>>532269826
most importantly, all the extreme degeneracy on Kindle. I bet their kindle smut collection would make steam users blush.

>>532269946
>wingmirror didn't fall off
un-wishlisted

>>532269672
This guy only survives by having 30 years of a backlog of niche RPG games. Even then he has to rely on crowdfunding for each new game, and he barely scrapes by. This is not repeatable.

>>532269672
I'm surprised Thomas Brush has people like this on his channel, since it goes so against his philosophy. Though I suppose it makes for good content, like "haha look at this weirdo nerd guy making his own engine for no reason LOL he's so crazy"

>>532269534
>Casey Muratori
I hate this pompous faggot nodev, so many talented engineers working on incredible systems for AAA games or on Timmy's engine aren't as opinionated as him, I hate this transcoded clown world where people like him are listened to.

>>532268767
They also defend Cuties.

>>532270289
I'm not talking about his particular business strategy. I'm talking about the engine.

>>532270258
honestly if i had a fully modular car model i would add it as a detail, but i just can't find any

>>532269826
It's a fucked up world.

When are you going to take the aesthetics pill?

Literal AI sloppa generating millions of views in engagement despite showing NO gameplay and promising NO content, simply for poorly aping the aesthetics of old fantasy games

>>532270316
Nodev? What has he actually made? Surely something. I don't know. What have you made? Probably nothing. You have no game and you are a nodev, I win.

>>532270308
Brush is constantly trying to find his philosophy. He's neurotic and high anxiety and incredibly self-conscious. Just like me..

should be legal to shoot people who post that

>>532270308
why do you have information about youtube grifters in your brain? why poison yourself and us with this garbage

I'll go on Brush's Thomcast with a Purple Hawaiian shirt and white shorts with my classic moustache.

>>532270626
I don't take any pills I sit in my schizo game and dev my games in my small little bubble that includes you lovely anons so that I sometimes I get a glimpse of the outside world.

>>532269268
>>532270635
uh oh she is melting...
>>532270842
this is extremely funny and mistar brash is undeserving of it

>>532270985
thank you , it is my devsona.

I guess the reason twitter likes don't convert to sales is because everyone who is using social media is scrolling on their phone. That audience is possibly(?) more likely to play f2p phone games and gacha. And even if they play PC games, they'll have to wait to get to their computer to go and download your game, and by then they will probably have forgotten since phone addicts have fried attention spans.

has anybody played around with the renpy visual editor?
https://github.com/the-asind/RenPy-VisualEditor

All you have to do to win in agdg is to call the other person a nodev and imply they have no game. I am the best at this. I have the most games too.

>>532271125
That's okay it's just some vedditor posting AI slop ragebait as per and not a serious discussion, no one seriously believes viral posts translate to sales. Marnix showed that in his shitty horror game flop post mortem btw.

>he imagines himself on Thomas Brush's podcast
>he imagines all the clever witty charismatic responses he makes during the podcast
>he imagines Thomas constantly talking about how amazing you are to other developers

>>532271360
I imagine myself arguing with Thomas Brush and insulting him.

it's never about what you want to make and always about what you can make

Working on spaceship ending.
Put up some of the music, most of it will be updated.
https://horbror.bandcamp.com/album/future-phantoms
Updated the game with some additional combat fixes, among other things:
https://horbror.itch.io/future-phantoms

Realistically, how can I tell if AI wrote the code?

>>532271303
ok nodev

>>532271847
Realistically, you can't

>>532271360
I manifest this. I think I'd get along so well with Mr. Brush.

>>532271847
Ask AI if the code was generated by AI. Just accept whatever answer it gives you whether it's yes or no.

Next couple of days will be sending something to be worked on and then refining any loose edges that might still remain

>>532271360
i do not

the incentive to yesdev is very very low these days.

was about time someone says it.

>>532270626
what first person rpg has a fucking huge foreboding castle on a mountain? give gamers what they want

>>532271898
I have more games than you.

>>532272160
>give gamers what they want
do not do this

>>532271756
the entire game is a cry for help isnt it

>>532263731
have you considered not being a moron?

>>532272173
I lost count, I've been deving all my life.

How come you guys never post your games when you spout these batshit insane opinions?

>>532272158
actually there is a big incentive: being the dev who broke the gambleslop era and brought soul back to indie games
doesnt get bigger than this folks

>>532261632
Fucking good on you.

>>532272761
Someone needs to break the indieslop era

>>532272753
which opinion was batshit insane?

>>532272753
id rather not associate my game with retarded attention seeking catposts

>>532272937
Good on you too !

>>532273036
mine

word on the street marmorealdev is depressed due to his game flopping so be nice to him ok? if you see him he uses the orange hair girl from the bosci show

Vibe of the day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpOjIoOHwvg&ab_channel=PukeBomb

gabe newell owes me a steak

>>532273183
I loved Majoras mask, what kind of game are you making? Is it the mask mechanic/theme you want to steal?

>>532273317
I heard he's cute :3

>>532271949
>>532272018
So, realistically, why shouldn't I fire my coders?

>>532273317
I played marmoreal and had a good time. I was especially impressed with the animated cutscenes. I wish I had animated cutscenes but slide-shows is all i-m cut out for.

I'm mostly chillin' today, reliving my best gaming memories to find more inspiration for my own projects. Listening to void stranger's ost and I'm in tears while recalling the story and puzzles. Thanks to some anon who reminded me of this game last thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvBuOulrE4c

>>532273525
It can be called Majora's Mask meets Daggerfall.
I am going to blatantly have the mask mechanic.
There's a Brahmin mask and a warrior God mask as well and more.

The main character will also be an Elf.

>>532273368
you owe him 3 steaks, he owes you one steak. gabe wins.

>>532273798
Sounds like a very solid concept, how far in are you? Do you have anything to show?

>>532273994
I'm building the Vulkan Engine. Will show progress when I think it is ready to show progress.

>>532273581
realistically
>only need 1-2 capable coders
>they need to implement shit
>they need to clean up AI code
I may or may not work at a software company that downsized their coder department because of this.
They already downsized other teams (social media, content managers etc.).
They are still massively successful.

>>532273798
explain lore

>>532273757
I played it. It sucked

My friends and I used to drop open 2 liter soda bottles full of gasoline or ethanol from the top of a large staircase in school and then run away. one of the people I did it with once took a tobacco pouch and soaked it in diesel before placing it under his lip and letting it absorb into his bloodstream. He took it out quickly but was very nauseous. What's a game engine for someone like me

>>532274084
Keep on trucking, hope it turns out well.

>>532274134
I don't want to spoil it so early on in development. But it is Shiva bringing the Apocalypse.

https://youtu.be/5o3d9L4G25s

>>532274275
you know what really sucks? vacuums

>>532274368
thank you. Good luck to your project too.

>>532274360
Bevy

>>532274531
>>532274275
Sorry, meant to post the real one

>>532273798
>There's a Brahmin mask
Eric schizo the indian shit was just shitposting, you're not supposed to take it seriously...

solodevs are the truecels of indie devs

>>532275746
what is a truecel?

it never began for truecels.

The game dev dream is over. I have to get a (((job)))

Idk what's a truecel but I think I may be one. Make games not love.

>>532269820
A miserable pile of tech debt!

>>532276719
no one cares troon

what killed the anti commercial shizoidev?

>>532277025
I'm no fucking troon!

>>532275146
I have to do it.

This thread is becoming weirder and weird, NGL.

Deep sea steampunk horror diving game with PS1 era graphics?

>>532277142
>>532277147
leave, disgusting creature

i had an epiphany. life isn't about finishing, it's about having something to do. the real blessing is having something to do every day. i don't mean being forced to do something everyday out of survival pressure. i mean just having something to do to not get bored.

what happened? what reduced him to this?
just a year ago people respected him

>>532277876
literal who

>>532277876
leave him alone hes depressed, if he can get joy from watching tranime streamers so be it its not hurtin anyone
dont be a cunt, remember you will be judged for your actions after death

Qayanite poaching simulator inspired by FlyKnight 9 Kings and Slay The Spire

>>532268505
frosch you forgot to turn on your trip

A whole lot of trash before we get to good stuff like >>532273336 only to then return to trash.

>>532277467
Pong first, whatever you're talking about later.

>>532273317
>orange hair girl
so he posts both nijika (yellow hair) and kita (red hair)?

>>532277876
>cure wink
He's just like me...

gamedev is the ultimate pain for people who hate making compromises

>>532269119
What's the point of using C? Are you too retarded to write assembly?

>>532277195
If you'll include indian stuff like hinduism and buddhism I'd love that. I actually thought about making a game with those themes.

>>532278706
>What's the point of using C?
Because C is the perfect middle ground between simplicity (assembly) and complexity (C++)?

>>532278706
Dumb comparison. C isn't all that "low level" in the grand scheme of things. I know it can be, but in practical day to day use, you've probably already implemented your own version of OOP.

>>532278103
May god strike me down now if he's not a bottom tranny
guess he's a tranny or he doesn't exist then

>>532278906
This is when I started using javascript. The object prototype model is too good. I started doing something like it in C and was like, "wait this is just bad javascript". I'm still not using 'real' javascript because it's a heavily modified quickjs thing I integrated but still, having a formal way to implement these things via the language is way better than the ad hoc C stuff.

>>532278273
i dont know their names but yes, he had to because bosci troon started making questionable posts which made people yell at marmo so he just started posting other girls to avoid the backlash, he said he doesnt post much here anymore dude to /agdg/ giving him depression
the mental impact of releasing a flop can be tough i suppose, i flopped too but it makes me laugh
i guess that not taking 10 years to release helps

>>532279214
Baito desu.

>>532279295
Why is the POV someone getting glomped by Fygoon?

>>532279159
I heard he's not a tranny but a cute twink :3

Hey marmoreal hit me up :P

>>532279295
kinda cool, looks like an old poster ad for a n64 game
just needs some cheesy text

>>532279321
>/agdg/ giving him depression
Yeah we're too rude to him and get laughs out of his misery. It's not okay I think.

>>532279321
>bosci troon started making questionable posts which made people yell at marmo so he just started posting other girls to avoid the backlash
Imagine caring about any of this lmao
You're all gay I don't care what you think

I am the creator of marmoreal and I think covid is a hoax, climate change is fake and gay, and indie games aren't real games

>>532279717
If you're really marmo then answer this post within 30 seconds what was bocci's lowest moment during episode 7 and what caused it? Also who comforted her

>>532279540
>too rude to him
These are all relative softballs compared to how you guys treat other devs:

>>532278507
>>532274719
>>532274275

>>532279861
I posted it in the discord. that's how you know it's me

>>532280160
You're not funny fygoon.

Anyone know of a good desktop tool to create trading cards?

Been looking around but didn't find anything decent. I'll probably just have to do the card structure myself in photoshop.

can we bring the IP counter back so he at least needs to samefag by using a proxy

>>532280385
marvelslop looks like AI to me, maybe this is why im ngmi

I will give marmoreal a try since I never did.

>>532280672
It does have some AI quality to it. too clean, movements are too soft because it's clearly stunts and edited.

>>532280672
it looks like bollywood, fr fr

>down take my estrogen
>dev every day
>take estrogen
>have no motivation

Would making an angry birds clone where brown, white liberal and black women shit out fetuses to an abortion clinic with the israel flag for getting coins, be too controversial of a game idea?

>>532281239
false flag so bad CNN, foxnews and MSNBC are gonna push it

>>532281528
i'm just warning others not to take estrogen if they want to dev. i think it's because when i'm horny i have motivation and estrogen tanks it

>>532280719
Okay, I gave it a try. It SUCKED >:(

>>532281391
follow your heart cris, you made fun of george bush 15 years ago in that game and that opinion aged very well

>i need to spend 1000 hours programming my game
>but an idea just magically pops out of thin air
why do devs not spend 1000 hours on coming up with an idea? why do they think ideas are worthless?

>>532281745
vania and octavia are the cutest so far desu

>>532281961
Ideas are worthless until after you've already spent thousands of hours studying the design space.

>>532281961
Rampant egoism means everyone thinks their ideas are god's gift to Earth by default, it takes skill and self-awareness to realize most of your ideas only sound good to you in your head and actually get into idea-making as a skill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b7ouTsZpwQ

>>532282239
>bullet heck

>>532282239
to me a good ideas arises from mindmapping, writing down lots of thoughts, thinking deeply etc. - not from "lol how about a game where you drive a car into houses"

>>532282239
yep that video was disgusting

>>532282239
>2d pixel platformer

Okay, I tried marmoreal for like ten minutes. It's not great or anything but it's not outright bad either

It's clear this is your first game, not a bad attempt regardless of how many years it took you to make it, so just keep it up can't wait to see how good your next game is :D

thoughts?
tldr: make systems/frameworks/plugins not games
(and then make a game using your them)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPuIysZxXwM

>>532282665
I already kinda did this with my C and Raylib project. Except I had the mindset that I was making a game, so it was more focused.

is there harm in throwing in the towel?

>>532282969
I'd say no.

>>532282969
None.

>>532268051
why would i not use c++ when it has data structures and constructors built in without doing any work and for no performance cost ?

>>532282239
interesting video but that part where it scrolls through twitter... ugh aggy please tell me I won't have to humiliate myself on that website just to market my game

>>532282969
Throwing the Towel Considered Harmful

>>532282969
You might hit someone.

>>532283190
A lot of retards here got filtered by C++ and they try to crab others into thinking C is all you need. Not a single one of them has written anything substantial in either language.

>>532282575
it took him 10 years to make and now hes too depressed to start another game, another one crushed by the jobby....

>>532282575
STOP IMPERSONATING ME I'm not done yet

>>532283476
IM NOT YOU IM ANOTHER ONE WHO TRIED IT D:

>>532283428
Dude he should just make a better game, he would probably feel better after it's done

>>532282969
It may be haram if your infidel friend has eaten ham and he throws it on you

>>532283375
How do you get "filtered" by C++? It's not a difficult language to use. Do you think you're some kind of genius because you use C++? You are an idiot and a nodev and you have no game.

>>532283190
You can, I'm not stopping you, I'm using C because that's all I need and I like the simplicity because it forces me to keep my shit simple.

>releasing a game can permanently destroy your mental health
>meanwhile gaben

giving up on gamedev is like trying to quit 4chan, you always want to, but you never manage to. although i'd say quitting 4chan is easier. let's say quitting social media is just as hard.

C is comfy, C is cool

>>532283946
gabe stopped releasing games for this reason, running a nuclear powered submarine to explore the abyss is less stressful than being a solo dev objectively

>>532283904
I'll add to this: with C++, I have all sorts of distractions within the language itself bothering me. So many choices. With C, it's pure gamedev and zero bullshit.

>>532284041
quitting social media is super easy when your face is ugly.

I imagine after 10 years of working on your game the expectations to succeed get really high, so when it doesn't happen....yeah.

>>532283337
depends on the stakes obviously.
what is at stake?

>>532284165
Your anal virginity

>>532284041
i quit 4chan for a few years during covid, i can see myself taking another break after my next game releases so it feels doable
but i do use 4chan ads (it's better than x campaigns imo) so yeah idk

>>532284107
You don't have to use any of those distractions. You could even just write C style code in C++ if you wanted to, but yeah at that point you would probably prefer to just use C

>>532283882
I primarily use GDScript for gamedev, but I am one of the few devs here who has compiled C++ GDExtensions when necessary. You don't need to be a genius, but you do need to be not retarded. Unfortunately, we have a lot of retards.

>>532284115
You're on social media right now, instagram, twitter and others don't require your face.

>>532283550
Okay fine. I actually tried it and it just crashes and I don't feel like finding out why. Marmoreal review: crashes/10

>>532284131
Why would they get higher? Mine only got lower the longer I worked. By now I'd be happy if 1 person played it to the end.

>>532284238
in that case I'd have to say that throwing in the towel is a catastrophic disaster.
maintaining anal continence is of cardinal importance

>>532284279
Exactly, I've written C-like C++ and then it becomes "why not just use C, then". It's trivial to implement good enough string, vector and hashmap / grid containers in C anyways.

>>532277876
>post mindbreak escapism with babytalk

>>532284751
He's a vtuber moderator, be nice.

why didn't pirate software and barone eric tell me that gamedev can ruin your life?

>>532285014
You don't have a life to ruin.

>>532284131
Well. Marmoreal is not bad but it's not that good either. You spent over a decade working on this game, but to be honest after hearing that I expected something a lot better than what the game is. I don't know why you would want to get depressed over this amateur work not immediately selling a million billion copies like famous games do. Those really shitty indie games that blow up over night? That's called winning the lottery, and you don't want to plan on winning the lottery.

All it means is that you just need to do better next time. And since you have all this experience, that means you have a wealth of knowledge and techniques to pull from, which puts you ahead of a lot of people.

>>532284904
>he's a vtuber moderator

Whouhou

>>532284904
Wait what

>>532285404
did you fix the awful english?

>>532285404
congrats

ozzy osbourne died. How am I supposed to dev today with that weighing on me.

>>532282239
After watching the video, the tl;dr is don't make a 2d pixel shart platformer

>>532285578
Better take the rest of the week off. Faggot.

>>532285404
I have feedback for you. Where do I post it?

>have everything planned out
>already a month's worth of work into the project
>still have no idea what to name it

>>532285828
town square

>>532285646
be nice

>>532285180
>after hearing that I expected something a lot better
He didn't work full-time on it. It's not really a 10 year game in that sense, it's like a 3 year game that happened to take 10 years to get 3 years worth of deving done. Problem is, how is he supposed to communicate that to you?

>>532285578
you rejoice, knowing that Ozzy is now in the presence of Jesus Christ, his Lord and Saviour!

>>532285646
>Faggot out of nowhere
You got gay raped? Sorry bro.

>>532285920
Don't name it nor build the intro until the end.

>>532285956
It hasn't even released yet, right? It's still in Early Access? It might get a visibility boost on Steam when it releases.

>>532285404
Anon you shouldn't have revealed your appID, I will now upload dolphin porn into your depot. You've been warned.

>>532285953
Sorry.

I think I wildly overestimated how autistic the average person is, especially using myself as a benchmark even though I'm an outlier.

>>532286326
>“Early Access will likely last somewhere between 1 and 2 years.”
Last update was April. Small updates. Idk, one more year at this pace doesn't seem like much would change.

>>532285920
just keep writing down different name ideas into a text file
one of them should stick with you eventually

>>532280672
this is AI

Whats wrong with using the N++ console?

>getting depressed that your game flopped when you didn't even finish it yet
You are an insult to depressed flop-creators everywhere. Finish the game nibber.

>>532286912
Not that's Bob and he's just like me fr

>>532286803
>>532287095
Marmoreal is way overscoped and impossible to finish.

Generative AI is an insult to humanity. The faggots who use it, encourage its use and are incapable of understanding just how dystopian this whole situation is are insufferable nigger cattle.

>>532287307
How? You just run in a straight line and fight the same guys over and over. Just cap it off and be done with it.

>>532287368
>money trumps humanity
many such cases

>>532286912
ceci n'est pas un IA.

>>532287438
But I want it to be deeper than that and have another hundred really cute and charismatic cutscenes and 3 secret characters and a sailor moon like alternate ending and also multiplayer co-op
Not marmo btw

>>532287438
It's a narrative-driven RPG with animated cutscenes. It's not "complete" without the narrative being completed, and he's maybe 1/3 of the way through with that at most.

A 4 million sub youtuber kindly making an idiot proof guide for my game and getting 10 million views on it for no reason would save me.

>>532287773
>>532287801
He's just like me.... the story isn't going to take 10 years + Steam EA dev hell, right? RIght?

>>532287908
No. He's just going to give. It's over.

>>532287886
saar please I am an titled to coverings of my game on your kind channel

>>532287982
They should be paying me for the privelige.

>>532288058
pls saar this will be your pribelige

>>532287886
sorry heroes for hire dev
you should've linked up with an artist and also make the game funnier and quirkier

>>532277876
>Nimi
Marmo just keeps on losing

>>532281829
kek that’s a mood I know

>>532287368
Generative AI is trve retvrn hyperborean aryan cvltvre
only browns and transvestites hate AI because it represents aryan brilliance, just check the boorus

FACT

>>532277876
I respect him even more ngl

>>532273317
Where can i see / download / buy his game? i wanna know first before i can say its good or its suck

>>532290207
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1484940/Marmoreal/

>>532290452
>no reviews since December
grim

>>532285404
Congrats m8. May God bless you with many wishlists and buys

>>532290542
>all the reviews are people from the /agdg/ discord
:/

Sigh.. been struggling with unfucking weird code for an hour
when I have it fixed in the other project
I'll take the brain L and copy it.

>>532290452
I wishlisted it. Probably will buy it in my next payday or BTC pump

>>532290779
This is market manipulation! A scam I tell you!

>>532290779
There should have been reviews from us too

>>532290452
>15$ for a bullet hell game with amateur art and gameplay
Thats way too much. People would pay like a few dollars max.

Looking at google there are tons of AI websites for generating game assets. What are the best options for generating 3D assets, and which ones are best for generating Pixel art?

>>532279295
>He's posting an old render
You do know you can steal renders from the official website, right?
https://fygoon.com/art/wallpapers.html

>load up demo
>play for 30 seconds
>character controller is shit
>close demo
>uninstall
the number of games that pass this test is astonishingly low

>>532291305
AI is sovlless. If you just want placeholders shove in stuff from slophacks.

>>532291305
blender and aseprite. you can use your brain as the ai model

>>532291151
I’ll take homemade art over AI art any day. Marmoreal is a fighter. He might has felt the dark side pull him in for a moment and turned to AI for his capsule for a few months, but he had a good heart. He returned to his beloved art. He did not need unnatural power.

>>532291438
>.html
>.html
>.html
>.html
Unbelievably based.

aint no one clicking on your IP grabber, and yes you can with HTML retard

Is it just me or is the dude adding traits to GDScript clearly using ChatGPT?
https://github.com/godotengine/godot/pull/107227

>>532291493
What does that have to do with price?

>>532285828
Here.

>>532291697
Human art is worth the price. Your statement implies the art devalues the product.

>>532291481
>>532291484
Going from my level of primitive MS paint to fucking blender and some dedicated sprite making software would take many hundreds of hours and push my game back by at least a year. That doesn't seem like it is worth the time when AI exists.

>>532285404
Good job, hope it goes well this time.

>>532291984
>No one wants to buy AI art
>People want good human made art
>Have mediocre (thoughbeit sovlfvl) human made art
Yeah it does retard. In a market with thousands of other products yours isnt going to sell as well compared to similarly priced higher quality ones. No one is going to pay 15$ for a game in a genere where most are free anyway, especially if the art is sub-expectations.

>>532292250
Git gud fagit

>Ultra high quality polished visuals and presentation
>50k wishlists
>Still flopped
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2008510/Go_Mecha_Ball/

>>532291493
Eh. I agree with your general sentiment, but I don't think you should act entitled that a million billion people aren't buying your "art" just because you put effort into it. Art isn't really about participation trophies desu. Even people with far greater illustration skills still have less success.

>>532291984
>worth the price
What price. I don't know if you are aware, but I am a solo-dev and I am not rich. I cannot afford to throw $10k at some artist and hope they don't fuck up forcing me to do the same with another one while I sue the first. They are all greedy bastards that don't want to just have a cut of the final product, so not worth engaging with. Meanwhile AI is free and doesn't cry when you ask for revisions.

>>532292645
>25 CAD
hmm, hmm... odd, it has the indie tag but doesn't have indie prices, hmm weird

>>532291525
Thanks, broski. I ought to see if my website works on the Nintendo 3DS for shits and giggles, because it mainly uses just HTML; JavaScript is only used on the Map of Frydar Island to enable users to select an administrative region and also when highlighting a specific location in a region.
In other news, I modeled the dungeons, treasury (now with piles of gold that would make Smog chagrin) and Doom Dragon's Lair for the explorable Fortress Fygoon. Additionally, I made the clock in Joey's room function based on the time set on your computer; since a Frydarian day is divided into three eight-tsas (hour) segments, with a tsas having 60 remnut (minutes), the clock tells time accordingly. It was a quick addition, but I knew there'd be people wondering why the Basileus's clock wasn't working.

>>532292712
>saar 353 reviews is enough to feed my entire village for years

>>532292826
>25 CAD isn't indie price
would you have preferred 27 CAD?

>>532292712
10 professionals from the games industry fulltime for 2 years + publisher support in QA, localization, and marketing. Steam gross after a year is 170k-200k USD. Awful.
>>532292826
Lots of indies are 25 CAD anon...

reminder

There is no indie price. Price is based on the game itself. Low quality? Smaller? Less interesting? Lower price. Novel? Looks great? Lots to do? Fun? Higher price.
People payed 35$ for PUBG in 2018.

how much real money is a cad

>>532293181
>localization
Why do people even bother? Surely you don't get that many more sales even if you include Spanish and what? Fucking french? Plus remember that most Spanish countries pay like 1/10th the price they do in EN countries.

>>532293384
like 850 dollars a month because autodesk is the worlds most jewish company

>>532293472
1/10th the price > 0. Spanish countries are big. It's about quantity.

>>532291113
I'm not buying that shit

>>532293472
retard

Is chatgpt good enough for localization? Lol because that's all you're getting from me

>>532293472
It is actually very easy if you have your dialog separated properly. Just run dialog file through chat gpt for the top 10 spoken languages by population and it is easy money for around 2 hours per language worth of work.

>>532293243
Excuse me? What the hell, dude?
What a hateful and mean-spirited image. You've really crossed the line with this one.

>>532293472
It's worth it if you know you're going to be a moderate hit or have a small enough game that localization wouldn't even be hard anyways. Half of Steam users have Simplified Chinese as their main language. You can get like 30% more total sales just supporting Chinese, Spanish, and Portuguese or something. Chinese is just the most important.

>>532293872
maybe

Reminder that the most ardent haters of Fygoon are secretly the biggest fans.

>>532294192
For a story driven game, with lots of dialogue and character drama.

>>532294087
go fygoon, flay this bastard's skin and hang him on a pike for the dino nation

>>532294290
maybe its gonna fuck up a bunch! or maybe not

hey fygoon, in order to be a narcissist you need to have something worth being narcissistic about
you dont, so please get on that

>>532294225
why is there so much drama in the discord

>>532294290
If it's good enough for AAAs, it's good enough for you.

>>532293243
whos the next infamous dev to have his face revealed online?

>>532291924
PLAYED ON "NORMAL" MODE:
splash screen is not good, looks like WIP
tutorial is really not good, watch this video:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=fbzhHSexzpY
no one likes tutorials, but I think it's too late to change it
even telling the player "play the tutorial first" is not good
honestly, there's absolutely better ways to do tutorials even for complex
games.
Emphasize rewards in contracts so you can easily tell how good it is at a glance.
"Next time keep yourself silence" keep this one actually it's pretty funny
How much time do the research projects take? It doesn't say.
In general this is a theme with the game. It's too silent, I wonder some things but the game doesn't give answers.
"Disponible", "Objectifs", "Consomation" the game mixes french and english too much.
"areobreak, momentum_reduc" and many more mispellings and weird spellings.
alot of stuff has underscores for some reason.
Kalemonvo's outline is mismatched.
What are the benefits of the lift off thruster? I don't know. I need more fuel and less consumption but I don't know if it will even give me that.
Alot of research stuff doesn't tell you how much better new components are than old ones.
Sometimes design name doesn't save? My design just got called "probe". might be a bug.
Great Conference event says "damn them"?
"Chimey observation, benefice, maneuvre thruster" is misspelled
Potential bug: switching designs will taking contracts can let you keep contracts around. So there are missing contracts.
Once again I fall into not caring about money at all and going into debt. I feel like I never earn enough money for the cost of the ship.
Anyway later I broke the game, just spam all the contracts with my cheapest ship for the contract, do multiple contracts at the same time, got alot of money and research points.
Also, I reached max PR by 1925.
Satelitte Filation event, both buttons tooltips say "We will send it to Foxnen" even though one of the buttons says "Harpyen"

/agdg/

actually
gay
discord
gay lol

>>532294358
When you're fighting with someone as pathetic as this, is it even necessary? Posting silly pictures is enough to kill him.

>>532294626
why is every annoying shitposter here brown?

>>532294626
>Nanomachines sar
>They post in response to online trauma

Launched my Steam page back in May but wishlist growth has been pretty slow. Would appreciate any thoughts about what I could do to make the page better, or just what sticks out as sucking
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3632740/The_Last_Screening/

>>532294518
>The 'Cord is Fygoon-Tsundere Central
When you are as disruptive as I am, you'll experience it yourself.

No games
No devving
Just posting
E-Fagging

>>532294626
cris and fygoon look like they are related
is there some kind of deep /agdg/ lore I'm missing?

>>532294518
this is what happens when you embrace cliquey namefag twitter bluesky drama trooncord """communities""" and reject decentralized whodev/ghostdev networks and aggy splinter groups

>>532261153
>>532261372
This is why we should kill all artists.

>>532295160
>generic horror walking sim asset flip
>Outstanding wishlists: 180
>Daily wishlist additions: 2
There's not much you can do. It has no magic. Just ship it ASAP and work on something better next time.

>>532295523
I understood none of that schizobabble, so here's Fygoon showing off his dope Regal Armor to some elf chick who's getting blinded by his sheer majesty.

>>532269083
twitter's been ass for gamedev marketing for like a decade
there's just too much noise

>>532270459
Dude just learn how to use Blender and edit the models yourself. Even a retard like me managed to figure out the basics like cutting meshes and exporting them and shit. I'm sure you can figure it out.

>>532295957
It's interesting how every failure says this and yet people still use twitter for marketing and it works.

>>532296098
making a realistic unbranded car with pbr textures is extremely difficult

What have you guys been working on today?
I've been working on building custom extensions for Dialogic after anonymous nudged me that direction. It's been paying off; thanks anon.

>>532296539
Trying to figure out shaders, but the math is filtering me a bit.

>>532295523
This

>>532296539
After I stop slacking and get my classes done Im going to try and figure out voxels

>>532296539
CG illustrations for a story cutscene sequence. It's unbelievably time consuming. I just realized this game will probably never be finished.

>>532296539
Trying to get suspend/resume working on Android

>>532296690
Voxel devs we are so back?!

>>532296539
Animations.

>>532291481
>>532291484
>>532291493
>>532287368
Why is this deranged tranny seething about AI so much again?

Aggy Decentralization

>>532295785
What video is this from

>>532295957
>>532296182
The truth is somewhere in between. You need a particular kind of game for any social media to work for you.

>>532296917
I didnt know there were more. If any have any advice to give please give it.

>>532296939
May I see it?

>>532296424
You don't need to use PBR. And badges and car names can be easily removed in literally any image editing programs. If a model has those things actually modelled then it was not made for gamedev.

>>532297086
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WezMZrk32M4

I used AI to generate some more voice acting for my game today.

>>532297197
I just started, I will post it once it's all done.

>>532297125
I think the value of twitter would be if you luck out and someone who has reach sees it and retweets it or if it's a streamer/tuber makes a video about it

I don't believe many people find new games on twitter and the tags related to it are mostly devs posting and looking at other devs posts

>>532296539
I have been tweaking my dialog and story line with chatgpt. It is nearly dialed in.

>>532296843
May I see it?

>>532297278
the rest of my game is in pbr. what do you mean removed? i don't have a car model, and you can't use the likeness of a real car either, it has to be a new design

>>532273317
I'll be nice to him once he stops shitting up the thread

did we enjoy thomas brush's new podcast with featuring yet another generic white guy?

>>532297894
>the rest of my game is in pbr.
I don't want to come off as a jerk, but from what you showed, you don't seem to have much of a game yet. I doubt you have a lot of assets, so I suggest just not using PBR, it doubles the workload on every single asset.
>and you can't use the likeness of a real car either, it has to be a new design
You can. So long as you remove the badges and slightly tweak the headlight design it's fine. All the new cars in GTA Online for example are literally real cars with real names replaced with their own ones.

>>532282969
Gamedev isn't for everyone. The sooner you admit it to yourself the better chances you have of not becoming the next aggydaggy schizo.

>>532297683
"Someone with reach" isn't going to retweet or make content out of a game for no reason. They have their own incentives, which is to make entertaining content. They won't make content out of a game that isn't entertaining for their audience. You need an appealing game. It's not luck. Applies for all types of content creation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip2trao6dYw

>>532284274
4chan has ads?

uhhhhhg, why we can't just upload image to gameDevAI and it spills out a hit?

>>532298539
What makes an appealing game?

>>532298384
housing, businesses, electricity, logic nodes, farming, crafting, etc.
no, i will not use licensed assets

>>532298868
An appealing game is one that sells a lot.

>>532298868
See Magics #1,2,3 >>532297125 >>532297290

>>532298539
It’s not even this. Almost every youtube gaming “content” is paid for by the game’s developer or publisher. This is especially true for indie game reviews. Every. Single. One. Especially the ones that say “this is such a hidden gem blah blah blah” the dev literally paid them for this.

This isn’t a conspiracy theory, this is how developers openly advocate for and admit doing for promoting their games. Once you realize that this dev-pays-youtuber thing is a whole industry, you can never look at “gaming” youtube videos the same again without thinking:
>this isn’t genuine. Your didn’t find this game. You are being paid to talk about this game.

>>532299057
Not all appealing games sell a lot. High appeal is just one way to get your foot in the door.

I'm trying to learn how SDL works and I'm just going insane

>>532282969
Absolutely

>>532297843
Sure.

>>532299240
Yeah, it'll drive you crazy, but it's worth it. It's mainly setting up the window then setting up surfaces.

gay sex with fagoon

>>532299457
get this gay shit out of here, fygoon shitposting had already died down

doing absolutely nothing for my game

>>532271756
I hope you make it

>>532271756
Will listen while I dev, thanks horbro

>>532296539
The heat got to me and I didn't get much done today but I kept working on my art prototype. Figured out a potential way to do the ground. Right now the repeating pattern looks bad but I think I can render out some blobby grass and spread it out randomly. Gotta test out how to blend between types of ground and such. Hopefully it will work out. Also swapped to isometric angle.

Remember when cris made this?

>>532299090
>Every. Single. One.
I'm fairly certain Tehsnakerer's video on Brigand Oaxaca is him genuinely stumbling upon that game or being suggested it by fans.

>>532300342
Yes, that was very elaborate, wasn't it? You're easily fooled. Open your eyes. Wake up sheeple

How is the next demo day already a month and a half away

>>532300513
It's amazing how the previous DD is already forgotten. No one even talks about the games anymore.

>>532300513
time flies...

>>532298539
that's why I said "if you luck out" implying that it would be someone who would want to do it for your game because they're interested

of course it needs to be something good enough that someone will want to do it

having an appealing game is the baseline requirement and if your game isn't then no amount of marketing is going to do anything

You keep misusing the term 'marketing.' It's PROMOTION that you're really talking about.

>>532300735
promote deez nuts

>>532300780
ah shit you got me

>>532300446
You're telling me the guy who was celebrating making 1000 dollars off his game (AFTER the video) was able to somehow get in touch and pay him for the video? By his own admission Brian Lancaster is a bum who barely survives off his game and drugs. I seriously doubt he had a cent to spent for any marketing.

Fuck it, I'm going to make another cup of coffee and dev some more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09wcDevb1q4
Damn. Jimmy knows. The rules for YouTube success are the exact same as for Steam.

>>532301059
Don't reply to it

>>532300735
who the fuck cares nerd

>Block Blast got beaten by Friday Night Funkin
Slopniggers BTFO. Effort and good games are always rewarded.

>>532301357
The fuck is block blast and how is it higher than Roblox?

>>532301226
Sorry but I'm not going to take advice from a grifter whose entire personality is pretty much "money"

>>532301501
Insanely aggressively advertised and marketted Unity asset store unmodified template.

>>532301357
>free section

>>532301254
I mean, to be fair, he's not entirely wrong. It is very true that 95% of video content about indie games, including "hidden gems" are effectively paid advertisements. It's just that sometimes there ARE genuine "hidden gem" videos, one has actually happened to my game. But don't bet on them, if they'll ever come around, it will be long past the point of you caring for your game's financial performance.

>>532301809
And?

>>532279295
POV: you're kannadev

>>532301849
This reads like a chatgpt post

>>532301357
Now let's see Kingshot vs Thronefall...

>>532302151
he'd tank it

is there like a premade engine for pokemon-type games?

>>532302552
Really putting the 'a' in agdg today, aren't ya?

>>532302552
>This is your competition

>>532302246
That's because you are a subhuman who can't read.

>>532302552
https://github.com/PokemonUnity/PokemonUnity

>>532301507
You can't just call everyone who's more successful than you a grifter. I mean you can, but you're gay.

>>532302662
>>532302739
why do things the hard way when somebody has already done it for you?

>>532302552
I got you. We like to do a little learning around here.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLf84Zj7U26kfPQ00JVI2nIoozuPkykDX

>>532302779
No dude you talk exactly like that gay chatgpt abomination writing style it does. Overuse of quotation marks, emphasizing words like ARE for dramatic effect, that's you.

>>532302856
If it existed, then it wouldn't exist because Nintendo would sue it into oblivion. That's why there's no premade engine to make GTA-likes.

here's the "d' in agdg, for "doubt this will help"

>>532302806
right on, thanks. I've been working out a baseball-themed RPG where you 'catch and collect' players and battle other teams, and it struck me that using a prebuilt engine would be easier than coding it from scratch. at least, I'd try and see how good a pokemon-style gameplay would work for something very not-pokemon.

>>532302827
It doesn't cancel out the last part though.

>>532303189
The part about you being gay? Yeah I know but what am I?

>>532303102
kino

Adding juice

>>532303328
where?

>>532303408
Interpolation

I had a dream, that I met marmoreal, and he didn't know that I knew who he was, and he didn't know who I was. We were just hanging out, and I kept waiting to reveal. It was like how Joseph's brothers who sold him into slavery didn't know that he was Joseph.

>>532303076
he said "pokemon-type" games, not actual pokemon
surely nintendo can't do anything there

>>532303736
ever heard of palworld buddy

>>532303102
always bet on player stupidity

>>532304051
This. If you don't have a healthy level of disdain for your players then you don't really know what you're doing.

>>532303408
Just look at it bro

>>532303408
>>532303328
Inside the turkey?

>>532304147
mines starting to pass over to unhealthy personally

The biggest problem is other people, not yourself. It's other people, in your head. They are puppet mastering your entire life.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8WhUgfoEj4

>>532304519
Exactly. Goggins is kino. Just keep running as in just keep devving!

>>532299457
>tfw you could choke out fygoon

Sometimes I wish when I started to draw, for someone to teach me this technique.

>>532306014
loomis has measuring heads in the first few pages of figure drawing

>>532306014
Face is jutting out too much, and put some confidence in your lines even at the sketch stage. Good work cris

>>532306484
>Face is jutting out too much
Isn't that just his style though? Not everything has to be loomis realism

>>532306014
I think literally every art book or website worth a damn teaches this technique

For all noobdevs I recommend you start here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUbPUWtmVUU

>>532306014
I cried

I'm trans now >:3 id do anything to get fygoon killed ^w^

why is it that in a relationship we completely decide if we stay together by how we feel like
yet when it comes to making a game we try to make a rational decision and don't want to follow what we feel like?

maybe only work on a game you feel like working on? if you need to force a relationship, it's bad, same with gamedev!?

I feel like solo gamedev is too hard, but how do I find a like minded bro who wants to work together even though neither of us would be getting paid?

>>532307198
I'll be your bro

>>532307198
that bro is called asset stores or free assets on itch.io or flaticon.com or ascii art

>>532307323
>itch.io
Oh I meant like for real games that go on steam

>>532307198
what kind of game are you making

>>532306675
too far too far...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BSzfr-O25k
>>532306947
wtf dude too far......

>>532307546
Retard

>>532307198
Learn useful skills so that you have something to bring to the table. Game jams are a great way to meet people.

>>532307546
beggars cant be choosers

>>532304801
>...with yo dick

>>532294691
Thank anon, a lot of work for tomorrow then.

>>532306627
The way he stylises the face works, it's just that it looks like she's craning her head forward
Good lord what am I doing
Why am I on 4chan talking about a sketch cristobal of all people made
I need a social life

I want to make a game that's SHINY like Excalibur (1981)

>>532307283
Let's do it brah
>>532307323
I don't need assets due to my only skill being drawing, not that I'm amazing at it, but its the part I enjoy. I need a coder bro.
>>532307548
Thats part of the game dev broship is you start making a game that you come up together and cover eachothers weaknesses. If it was someone just working on my game it would feel more like an employee than a bro.

>>532307198
There are thousands of people around that want the exact same. The hard part is picking someone who will put in about as much as you do. Try small game jams, weekend things. See whose 'vibe' you like

i dont know how to make my game good, i give up, goodbye agdg

>>532307907
Roughness 0 on everything

i want a zombie survival game where you are locked in a commie block with like 100+ apartments and you need to survive only by looting apartments. you can't leave the building. you can farm and collect water on the roof if you are lucky to feed dirt and seeds.
some apartments have survivors and they'll behave like npcs in the sims. it's your choice to keep them alive or kill them. they will cost resources too.

this is the first game i'm gonna prompt when AI is ready and nobody will be able to stop me.

Nothing I make looks right.

>>532308205
Add cultivation and gacha mechanics.

>>532306417
>>532306484
>>532306640
>>532306737
I mean this gif.

It's more like how do I apply 3D techniques to 2D drawing.

name one indie game in the last 5 years that seriously was an improvement for the gaming industry, that we couldn't live without anymore.

>>532308581
Vampire Survivors

>>532308581
Literally Balatro and people can't cope about it all they want

>>532306014
Here's a tip. Proportions don't matter as much as appeal. Anime/manga characters often have enormous heads and tiny arms, but you don't notice because their pose is striking enough and no one really stops to notice the proportions. Just look at how Link looks in Legend of Zelda artwork for a good example of appeal over anatomy.

>>532308158
Show prototype

>>532308581
LISA: The Pointless: Scholar of the Wilbur Sin: Infinity Unfolds

>>532308205
Big if true. Post progress.

how to make a 2D single-player indie game all by yourself, with just the help of one designer, that still gets almost 100k concurrent players 10 years after first release (early access release)

seriously man what's the dark magic behind this shit?

>>532309193
Just like make crafty buildy simulation games.

>>532309193
replayability + suitable for autists + achieving meme status through YT creators like sseth

>>532309193
It's a game you can mod and he only cashed in on it because it was a chance success.

i care about money, but what i truly want is the mental high of doing something great that people like. just like football players can be rich, but they still want to win cups and leagues because it feels great to be the best.
just the feel of doing something great that people enjoy.
yet i can't see me ever providing anything of value...

>>532308205
>procedurally generated commie block roguelike

>>532308205
>Im not making a game
>Im not going to make a game
>I may commission a game
Why did you post this here

>>532309418
Isn't there more to it? I thought you guys had parks and stores at the bottom and there's only like fifty blocks together.

>>532308902
Damn. Long title.

>>532308790
How was this an improvement for the industry? If anything it's influencing indie games to become more like mobile junk (more so than it already was becoming that). In what way is that an improvement?

you cannot verify if people will love your game idea
but you can verify if you like your game idea just by observing how motivated you are to finish it

>>532308581
Hard to say. I think there are none really. Improvement? Nothing has really been an amazing improvement. We couldn't live without? Probably Hades and Balatro I don't know. I never actually played either.

picking a profession where you hope you randomly have a genius idea that makes you rich is a very very risky choice. it's like playing the lottery.
the fucked up part though is, that it's the only choice i have left in life because i'm not a normie chad who can do hard physical labor...
yet i also desperately want to avoid minimum wage slavery and depression with suicide.

>>532310279
>We couldn't live without? Probably Hades and Balatro
Could you really not live without those? Really?

>>532310651
>he doesn't enjoy making game
>he only thinks in terms of money
>he doesn't understand all the ideas that don't exist yet ripe for the picking

i'm too low iq to make a good game

>>532306014
god this is the shittiest method it's so hard to wrap my head around the idea that you don't know how tall a person is

>>532310691
No, I just meant that they changed the gaming world and had alot of influence on it.

>>532310893
being low IQ is good because whatever you make, the steam audience will understand

am I missing anything obvious for my plantation?
nobody poops so no need for toilets

Idea guys, I need lore advice. I'm in the process of writing the creation myth of my game's in-world religion. Is the whole "fire, water, air, earth" elemental thing and having a god for each too played out? I've been reading some real world creation myths and folklore fore research (mainly the kalevala and some native American stories) and practically all of them have this same 4 elements "trope". Obviously it wasn't a trope back then, but it's since become one.

My immediate instinct tells me that yes, it is played out, but at the same time I want the characters in my game to have a deep connection to the natural world. I don't intend for this to be something that's all magical with the gods being a visible force in the game, but rather something more akin to reality where the myth is basically an explanation for why things like weather works the way it does. Blaming storms and wildfires and stuff on the behavior of unseen forces.

>>532312075
Pick a number, pick a shape
That number is the number of important gods, that shape is a metaphor for their (and realities) behavior.

>>532310991
>retard doesn't know who has 5 anime heads of height

>>532312830
Hello Kitty is 5 apples tall!
:)

game where you are a mob trying to level up by defending yourself against hordes of mmorpg players trying to kill you. your only chance is being more intelligent than your npc friends.

>>532313184
You could call it Nig v. Nigger

>>532312075
>Is the whole "fire, water, air, earth" elemental thing . . . played out?
Yes. Be more creative. This is bad.

>I want the characters in my game to have a deep connection to the natural world
I can think of several alternative ways to accomplish this. My recommendation is to find an alternative that sound the most interesting and fun to you, and evolve the idea from there through the process of brainstorming and eliminating bad ideas.

>>532314314
>I can think of several alternative ways to accomplish this
like?

life is constant cope that humans reached their intelligence cap and that you cannot compete with the capped out market.
cope how you want. if you disagree post your game that can compete.

>>532310651
Just become an artist instead. Everyone in this thread likes to talk about how Real Artists are so much better then AI, so you will never be out of a job.

>>532314737
i dont want a job, i want a high selling product

My demo on demo day for demo day will have a bomb attached to the player that goes off in 10 minutes, and then you can never play the demo again.

I get most of my shitty ideas from my dreams, yet I also get most of my amazing ideas from my dreams. It's interesting. The subconcious is amazingly powerful, yet unreliable when you need it the most. It's not about sleep either, even as you're falling asleep, closing your eyes, the best ideas come. Immediately after waking up aswell. So, "just 5 more minutes of rest" is actually good for your game.

>>532314437
These aren't meant to be good since I just thought of them off the top of my head, but should hopefully help you to think from different perspectives:

>Storms, wildfire, and the like are governed by a singular deity or force, rather than a separate deity for each
>A deep connection to the natural world can imply more than just physical things like plants and animals, (spiritual, the reason behind these things; energies, having a deep understanding the the spiritual principles which govern these things)
>something more akin to reality where the myth is basically an explanation for why things like weather works the way it does: you could literally do anything with this, ranging from "the creation myth is that an advanced civilization 7000 years ago created a machine that's inside the moon that controls the climate on earth," to other random things like "the weather is determined by a series of coin flips that occur in a higher plane where hyperdimensional beings influence earthly events"

Follow threads that are the most interesting and fun to you

i have gamedev fatigue

>make a "prototype" with AI
>scam people with a kickstarter
only a matter of time

social media, shit
games, shit
gamedev, shit
real life, shit
jobs, shit
nothing to do that isn't shit

doesn't shock me that everybody is getting fat, at least food is fun

I'm statistically the worst dev here.

>>532315748
I quit drinking 4 months ago, but except for my health improving, everything else is going so poorly for me that I don't see a reason to not pick up drinking again.

>>532312075
>but rather something more akin to reality where the myth is basically an explanation for why things like weather works the way it does
That's not what myths are bucko! God you're so stupid it boggles the mind eh. Myths are archetypal hyper-real abstractions of meta-truths across time and space. Each individual or instance might embody a fragment of a myth, or their acts may, in aggeegate, contribute to or rejuvenate the tradition of a culture. That's the bloody hero's journey. Roughly speaking.

But yeah 4 elements are overplayed and I dunno which creation myths you read but I don't think they're that common since they're a . The theme of most creation myths is the creation of masculine order and civilisation out of feminine chaos and wilderness. In Genesis before God even says "Let there be light" there are dark waters, both darkness and water being the domain of chaos.

So I dunno what you've got in mind for your game but never forget... Worldbuilding and writing lore is literally pointless if you have no game and you're just engaged in advanced ideaguy nodev busywork that gives you a false sense of accomplishment. So stop that shit and make a game.

>>532315846
this. but my health slowly getting worse is also shit. that's why i stay in shape even though i hate it and dont enjoy it.
life is either suffering or more suffering. i choose less suffering. but it's still suffering.

>>532315360
>i have gamedev fatigue
take a break if you're fatigued. don't work on your hobby if you're not having fun.

iam gonna binge eat like a crazy lunatic tomorrow and then pretend i'm notch and just make the next big hit

currently poorly making a shit game

>>532260584
>>532263364
>10 images
KINO
I did a little research about the game before reading the article https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEam-zQgWcU

i think my destiny is being a neet. i'm totally honest, i think that is my destiny. i think there's no escape from it. i'm destined to be on welfare for my whole life. and every year the chances of living a different life get lower.
although i'm not fully sure if it's destiny or just the system we live in. but the system could also be destiny.

>>532315950
JP is my favorite source of hasbara!

>>532315748
>social media
Don't use it
>games
Only play the ones I like, coop with friends usually
>gamedev
I enjoy this hobby
>real life
I have a wife and a dog I'm pretty content.
>jobs
comfy work-from-home dev job
>nothing to do that isn't shit
There's clearly lots to do in order for you to cultivate a life that doesn't make you miserable. Why are you even in agdg? Gamedev isn't going to fix your life.

>>532316895
good for you nepobaby

>>532317150
>good for you nepobaby

>>532317150
>nepobaby
Is this the new term that everyone just learned about recently and will now proceed to parrot it all the time like they did with grifter

>>532317150
I prefer being called a privileged white male than nepobaby by retarded bitter losers.

>>532317434
Anyone who can afford indoor plumbing is a nepobaby.
Anyone who's more successful than I am is a grifter.

>>532317832
What is it even supposed to mean?
>Haha you come from a good family, that makes you BAD!
Like how is that even an insult?
>You should be a ghetto hoodrat like me instead

This general contains some of the most useless and pathetic people on 4chan.

>>532318062
Especially you

>>532318175
No

>>532318252
Where did you get this picture of me

>>532318450
The pictures of me folder on my laptop

>>532317996
looking good anon! excited to play this one.

>>532317980
Losers always like to invalidate other people's success, because it makes them feel better about being losers. Leftoid losers have for decades used the concept "privilege" for this purpose. Now retards on 4chan are trying to use "nepobaby" which is inferior in every way to privilege because while privilege is nebulous and impossible to truly deny, nepobaby is a specific accusation and easily denied. My dad was a truck driver who left when I was 8, not sure how that is supposed to havr helped me

>Do my ff14 daily roulettes every day to get poetics for the current stage of my heavensward relic
>Tired of playing, just want to get past this shitty grindy stage
>finally clear that stage, now there's another even grindier stage
It sucks, but I keep coming back to it. Should I use this technique in game design... too?

>>532312075
>pic rel
make it about mythological half human half animal creatures that represent different traits/sins in humans
Fire earth water air, very kino, but not for the modern game imo

>>532318786
tell me why you are a sheep

100% happy with this.

:D

>>532318786
No because unlike a game designed to exploit your psychology, gamedev doesn't sprinkle in crumbs of satisfaction at set intervals to keep you hooked. It just hits you with shit to grind though and sometimes a fucking unsolvable problem that makes you give up on the whole project.

>>532318960
I like the idea of a cool "ultimate weapon" for your character that evolves with you and you have to put work into to get the most out of.

>>532318786
>It sucks... Should I use this technique in game design... too?
>It sucks
>Should I use this

>>532318786
are you soulless and making a game where you financially benefit from players sinking as much time as humanly possible into your game?

>>532319082
>he thinks it matters if the player feels good
It's all about having them play my game and telling others to buy and play it too despite how horrible it is.

>>532319054
I'm about 70% happy with it

Why aren't there more The Witness clones?

>>532319331
I don't think they'd be all that popular.

im using AI code because i dont want to implement this thing myself even though i have done it in other projects

Is chat gpt a divine being?
I just realized is a god.

So far it has:
>Omniscience
>Atemporalitey
>Inmortality
>Capable of doing multitasking with millions of humans and answer
>Exist in a non corporeal realm

Game about where people treat a machine like the bible.

I have ideas for cutscenes that seem really great in my head, but when I go to implement them, my execution is WAY off. Whether it's because I lack the skill and craftsmanship to create assets, or the music sounds too cheap, or the pacing is weird.

>>532318786
I don't understand the psychology behind addictive games. Is it just a variation of hanging out with the popular kids to feel cool?

my game doesn't really appeal to anyone except myself i think. maybe that's alright and i'll find a girlfriend if my game is successful?

>>532320746
what if you loved yourself and didn't need a bitch in your life

a decade of 2d animation experience and programming experience and i produce garbage compared to people just starting out
my existence has to be some kind of practical joke, this can't be reality.

>>532321001
i only knew self worth when i was with my ex. i dev to forget about her. its the intellectual version of lifting

godot actually makes UI work fun

>>532321174
Post animations?

>>532312075
"played out" means "lacks novelty value"
people who like the thing don't need novelty to consume it
people will never get bored of fire magicians and fire gods because gods are cool and controlling fire is cool
the system doesn't matter
you have the system because it allows you to have wizards and gods

Discord link

>>532323420
TL;DW

>>532323596
genre is important

>>532321376
I'll never understand

>>532323420
I still can't believe a guy named Code Monkey and with that voice looks that good.

telegram link

using an angled orthogonal camera is killing me fuck

>>532324170
yayifications

how can you say you have lore if you dont create your own language that everyone speaks?

I get how steam works because of this Chris Z guy, but what about other platforms? I was searching around on the playstation network earlier today and was seeing complete shit with 70+ reviews, and then world of goo 2 had like 20. There was just as much shit as on steam, or at least a really good amount of it, but very few things had only a handful of reviews; it's easy to find steam games with zero.

Is there that big of a playstation audience or do people just get their friends to buy and review their stuff? I find the PSN so obtuse to use compared to steam, too; the discoverability of stuff is terrible. How does it work, selling on the psn or the nintendo store, contrasted to steam?

if you aren't using ai then you haven't unlocked your full potential

>>532324878
Cring

>>532324878
>Another AggyNIGGER wasting his time instead of making his game
Typical

>>532325042
post your progress

>>532320274
Used to date a fat girl that was (incredibly ironically) really into this baby hippo

>>532325042
‘Typical’ he says, yet he's never made a game himself

>>532319716
>did it before
>can't just copy her own code
?

>>532325757
it's so much work to open up an old project

I have unlocked my full potential.

>>532323420
"now here is my slop simulator assetslop for sale!" grifter piece of shit

>>532326223
which are you? the grifter or the loser? never mind don't answer, we already know which you are.

I thought about making the start of the game the village being attacked by the demon lords army and mc being the only one who makes it out alive but isnt that kinda cliche?
Like...
People would probably be like "not again..." because its a very common thing.
But like...
Thats the only way it makes sense with the rest of the plot.
But its so overused.
Idk.
I might need to scrap all my story and start it from a beggining to make something more original.

>>532326406
Originality is overrated.

>>532326359
sure pajeet, make that slop, surely you'll be THE one

>>532326406
>he thinks being originale is the key to a good game

>>532312075
creation myths aren't even important
no one makes decisions based on how the world was created
....now world ending/apocalypse/death world myths....

>>532326753
You do though?
>World created by big bang that may have been created by previous universe or is the simple start of starting
or
>World created by God
Video games are also simulations which get the monkey brain firing.

After a little time struggling to figure out what the main antagonist evil gypsy for "Me or You" would look like, I was browsing a random thread on /v/ when someone posted this king penguin undergoing a catastrophic molt. I saw it immediately and made a quick sketch, then made it into a sprite. Very happy with it. The game takes place in a Turkish and Greek inspired setting, so they must be especially baffled by this woman who came from the south pole.

I don't think I'd want the player fighting her directly in the game, she probably shows up every couple of stages to give the player more trouble one way or another.

I'm making a scoring system. Something like a basketball game. When giving points to the player, how should I calculate the distance bonus? Should the bonus increase linearly with distance, or should there be a curve, where bonus increases slowly at first, then increases more as the shot distance increases?
Is it an overkill to try to tweak scoring this much? The player will already get less point so maybe no need to further tweak it?

>>532327589
Anon? You do know basketball only has 3 points right? 3 points being notoriously difficult to shoot because you're either on the other side of the court or at the half court.

>>532327589
1 goal = 1 point
whatever meta and fun will be built around that
micromanaging scoring is cringe and for fake games

>>532327861
explain mario and points for hitting boxes with your head

>>532327949
"shit i never cared about and was never the focus of the game"

>>532327589
you can't make basketball fun
sports games aren't fun

>>532327861
>>532327787
No there needs to be a distinction. The distance will affect the points gained alongside other factors.

>>532328108
>>532327787
>like a basketball game
Meaning the distance has an affect on difficulty and therefore needs different score points.

>>532328381
You should explain what your game is because if you want crazy scoring look into baseball where they do insane mathematics to calculate player stats.

>>532311536
turning shit into fertilizer is a fundamental gameplay loop

>>532328381
Where's the game? you have some type of prototpye right?

>>532327176
yeah that's a purely theoretical argument that has no bearing on peoples lives
you're proving my point

>>532326406
There's new under the sun. The same stories and tropes get told over and over again because they're good and recognizable.

>>532327534
>they must be especially baffled by this woman

>Implying mediterranean people would be baffled by a gypsy woman and not try to kick the shit out of her immediately.
Also
>Turkey mention!

>>532328615
only scientists do that
you can buy cow manure from local ranchers to use on your farm much easier than using human excrement
do you even into farming?