#1043 Choose your trap waifu edition

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first for Baron of the Fiend Sword

Rip Mr Crowley.

>deck has two archtypes
>i only draw half of it throughout the entire duel
hmm

>>532286792
Bro, your bridge?

>makes malpiss players piss and shit themselves with rage
your tears give me life. cry harder.

cinna?

>>532287495
yes yes HOWEVER consider the following

I'm gonna fucking dead name.

>>532288346
>pop 1 (as a response) and some protection
why are people jerking this off?

>>532288346
>Kaiju
What now?

>>532288620
>kills malice trvnnies
>kills pendulumslop trvnnies
>kills labtrvnnies
>kills millenium trvnnies
Yeah, it's Deadnading time

>>532288620
Because its not once per turn + field spell that allows monster negate + other rank 4's it can abuse (mainly dweller to shut down grave).

If Maliss = Upgraded Cyberse slop + Named Bodies
then Ryzeal = Generic Rank 4 Toolbox + Named Bodies

It reminds me when purrely was around and just spun your cards if you tried to breathe

what's the easiest duel for the solo mode daily
monarchs?

sex with Sky Striker Aces

>>532289664
the tutorial mission that makes you set the 2000def monster so the CPU attacks into it and kills themselves

>>532289664
use your own deck retard

>>532289664
Tutorial megalith

>>532289664
don't do it till the end of the month so you stop getting it retard

>2025
>/mdg/ STILL doesn't know how to setup their dailies for the month

>>532291020
>don't do the easiest daily

>>532291981
>hmmm should I do the one that I have to do one at a time or 3+ at a time during ladder duels

>Up against a 40 card Lightsworn deck
>They go first
>They deck themselves out by Turn 3
Poetry

VS has got to be one of the most vomit inducing playstyles I've ever seen. The deck just pisses me off so much with all the bouncing and revealing cards. I literally just surrendered out of boredom, garbage retarded fucking deck

>>532292942
>Turn 3
que???

>>532289486
>go second against troozeal
>declare detonator with sales ban
what's next?

>>532293671
completely agree. It is just so fucking BORING

>>532293671
so true bestie

>>532293671
I think it's really cool.

>>532294673
die

>>532284918 (OP)
>trap waifu
...we used to laugh at people dating traps

>>532293671
It cannot be worse than combo slop number 54. They're literarily not doing anything at the moment in MD.

>>532295283
wait he is dating the troon?

Why do redditors lose their shit when you mention traptrix, but saying sky striker girls are cute lesbians is socially acceptable? Isn't latter more fucked up if you're a dumb moralfag when traptrix are probably just monsters in disguise?

>>532295741
something something little girls
please ignore raye is 13

>>532295741
suits their agenda

>>532293671
begs for a meme of soiyjak showing u his vs hand

>>532295283
Is this a real thumbnail lmao?

>>532295810
Raye's not actually 13. The manga isn't canon and the birthday scene was before a timeskip anyway.

>>532296536
>d-doesn't count
classic. I know it is pretimeskip I am just shitposting. Redditors are just so damn afraid of being called a lolicon they shit in fear of loli adjacent cards

>>532295741
Is it impossible to think traptrix cards look very pretty while not being lolifag? I mean even vibrant colors on them look nice and I love cute girls/weird monsters duality

>>532296946
>Is it impossible to think traptrix cards look very pretty while not being lolifag?
no but it certainly helps

When do I get to go ATOMIC

>>532295965
Yes
https://youtu.be/k8WbPBGw3To

>>532288620
>i normal summ-
>QUICK EFFECT DETACH, DESTROY
>that's fine, i special summ-
>QUICK EFFECT DETACH, DESTROY
>i'll activate my field/continuous sp-
>QUICK EFFECT DETACH, DESTROY
>heh, i expected that, i'll now activate tract, adding lurrie and discarding it to special summ-
>BY DETACHING A MATERIAL FROM DUODRIVE/ANY OF MY R4NK MONSTERS, I NEGATE YOUR MONSTER EFFECT ON RESOLUTION
>ACK!

I know this is the same thing as a furry saying furry, anthro and kemonomimi are completely different things.
But I'm not a pedo or a child fucker, but a no-touch only watch hebephile.

>>532297592
ok I admit that sounds aids. Will be adding kaijus back in my deck

>>532293897
He got greedy and didn't expect me to be able to stall.

>>532297648
Oops meant ephebophile

>>532297723
Kaijus don't do anything anon you need Ultimate Slayer to remove it

>>532297830
>Kaijus don't do anything anon
why not he doesn't have tribute protection

>>532296536
The timeskip is still only one year, raye is 15-16 by the end of the manga, not a legal adult and absolutely not mature enough for anything sexual.

>>532297973
>and absolutely not mature enough for anything sexual.
redditor

>>532297973
>The timeskip is still only one year
Ok so she is 14
>raye is 15-16
the manga covers 2-3 years???

>>532297949
Because they will have Eclipse Twins attached to it as material. which will probably only release like a month or two after ryzeal

FREE IBLEE

>>532295741
>caring about the opinions of normalcattle
Meanwhile i can go to my locals and talk about how much i want to pull down astellar's shorts and bury my face in her crotch, and instead of insults or even weird glances at least 5 other guys will say "yeah same" or "i'd rather do that to elzette".
>>532298341
IIRC the timeskip is exactly 1 year, then it takes another year for roze to grow up in a vat, and then it takes a couple months to a year for azalea and camellia to grow up. Not sure how long the timeskip is after they defeat the evil chocolate girl and colgate-chan, but it had to take a while, as they repaired ciela and roze's handheld console.

>>532298656
I don't follow paper anymore what they do

>>532298667
You can just use Gen+Ken to give them a monster for Matrix and to make Almiraj. or mimighouls

>>532298763
>talk about how much i want to pull down astellar's shorts and bury my face in her crotch, and instead of insults or even weird glances at least 5 other guys will say "yeah same" or "i'd rather do that to elzette".
an airstrike should be authorized on your locals.

>>532298835
Read it yourself.

>>532298835
When sent to GY it resurrects any other R4NK and attaches itself to it. This means ryzeal can come back from a kaiju/raigeki or even pop itself if imperm'd and come back with 2 fresh pops, since it attaches a monster on special summon. Deadnamer can also pop your own abyss dweller if the opponent tries to negate it.

>>532299074
I didn't realize Eclipse Twins was literally the name of the card

>>532299262
>>532299074
Welp good thing I already have 2. Shame XYZ doesn't have any targets as good as ntiss to send

>>532297949
The Quick Play is a reborn for Deadnamer and Eclipse Twins also brings it back

>>532299343
Understandable. Ryzeal gets mixed with a bunch of archetypes including some that aren't out in MD yet.

>>532288782
Pray this releases with it otherwise lose on the spot like the good, honest deck that Ryzeal is.

>>532284918 (OP)
r8 h8 masturb8 pls, i just spent all my resources on this, i don't have the 30 dust for vanilla firewall dragon so don't ask me to add that or any other UR

>>532300041
Yep. That looks like a Maliss deck.

>>532300041
>i don't have the 30 dust for vanilla firewall dragon
hes one of the main combo pieces retard. He isn't optional

>>532300348
Is there a card i'm missing besides firewall?

>>532299983
>it otherwise lose on the spot like the good
that's fucking pathetic. I don't think I wanna build that deck anymore

>>532300420
I'm gonna cope on terahertz until i scrounge up 1k gems, and hopefully i'll get it from the pack.

>>532295283

>>532300530
Beware the bogyman

>>532299568
I was going to recommend you use metaltronus instead, but that thing is also UR for some reason.

>>532300694
>bugman with 80 face filters
>non-passable troon
just give me HER and I'll be content

Is it better to use firewall as disruption on your opponent turn or as an extender on your own turn? I only really it as an extender for when I need March Hare in hand, otherwise I save it for my opponent's turn

>>532290806
which one is that?

>>532301186
>>532301186
XYZ Encore is the budget version but it does nothing against non-Ryzeal decks
Slayer at least can be used for minimal effect against Maliss

>>532297763
>didn't give the alternative win
lol what a bitch

>>532302217
>minimal effect
>gets rid of 10k dragon (which also turns off desavewurm, since it needs you to control a link-4 to negate, and all the maliss' are link-3) and plapollousa

>>532301408

>>532301186
>Metaltronus
Ah yes, my favorite Gimmick Puppet card, I love it.

Here you fags go. This rapes every xyz deck into the ground mercilessly, including but not limited to Ryzeal.

>>532300348
What do they want to beat her to death

>>532303095
this stupid bitch knows what's she's doing bouncing like that

>>532304253
She's a 10/10

>>532304245

>remember the talk about Dragon Rulers I had with some anon here yesterday
>decide to see if any of the new stuff is actually used
>it gets put with tenpai a lot
>realization
...would they make a secret pack with those two?

>>532300041
You can remove Dharc or Masquerena and add Knightmare Cerberus or Phoenix.
Haven't used Dharc in ages.

>>532304553
no, d-rulers will just get their secret pack updated because absolutely fucking everything is UR already, btw that won't stop konmai from making the white baby, here there be dragons and 2 of the xyz ur as well

>>532301408
>face filter
It's called makeup.

>>532304043
I feel like Solemn Judgement and even Magic Jammer are required to play Ryzeal. I'm not building that can instantly lose to this card and to Ultimate Slayer.

>>532304394

>remove a snake eyes fiendslop field
>he has NO follow up
>he can't use that disgusting gy interaction with original sinful spoils anymore
PFFFTHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>Build Maliss
>Go from Silver 5 to Diamond 4 in a couple of hours
Wow. This decks is really strong isn't it

>>532306805
>banish pooplar
>win
It's nice that the deck actually has a weakpoint now.

>>532307685
>I played 35 duels minimum in a couple hours
I don't believe you

finna pitch lancea

Yeah I'm calling it, this is the worst format since tear zero.

>>532308460
Lol no. Maliss isn't nearly that bad and hard dies to a shit load of options

Just faced phantasm spiral in ranked, i knew this deck ran floodgates, but holy hell does the primite engine give it a lot of gas.
>lordly lode add roar
>summons megazowler, chains roar
>he's got two level 4's now, goes for stealth kragen
>lmao dumbass, now you can't activate your field spell or use your traps from hand
>i imperm his xyz
>as soon as i bring out my combo pieces, he flips torrential
>i can play past that and i've already set up my GY, who cares niggy
>flips dominus on my special summon
>summons a token and adds power
>cucks my extra normal, cucks my search with a dominus from hand
>consneed because it's going to take him a minimum of 3 turns (lode summons in defense) to finish me off
The fucker wasn't running a single monster besides the level 4 vanilla, all because lordly lode summons from GY as well. And somehow, this deck wasn't as gay as your average trannomorphia/troonick stun list.

>>532307685
For some reason the average ygo player shits their diaper whenever cyberse combos begin because this and mathmech had the same deal where they're not bad but they're easily outclassed by several more ridiculous decks the game has had and yet everyone still seethes about circular as though mathmech were tier 0 and will do the same with maliss for years to come.

>>532308460
>resolve lancea
>win
VS
>resolve dimension shifter
>doesn't care because you can't do anything either unless you're on table 500 shit
>will buckbreak you on his next turn
least dishonest teartroon

>>532308590
It's an incredibly fun grindy deck. Someone mentioned it last thread and I made it and was pleasantly surprised how much "drillbeam every turn until you like it" adds up. It is fairly easy to get into a position the opponent has 0 options thanks to all the advantages you get off traps+drillbeam

>>532308460
I wasn't here for tear but if this current meta is anything like it then it's gotta be the most overhyped shit ever

Any new thematically appropriate cards I could put into this? This is pretty much the only deck I play anymore.

>>532309226
Unironically. During tear meta you would just run mask change 2 and win every single game the second dark law touched the field.
Legitimately easier time to climb than any other period in MD.

>>532308553
Fiendslop Beatrice was much worse

>>532275962
I did copy the deck, netdecking is pretty common. But did you read the part where I moved on to a my own version of the deck here >>532249163
or did you just wanna point out that you also watch yugitubers? You coulda just said that, too.

>>532309526
>go first
>might win
woah

>retarded cocksucker malissfag is timestalling because I stole his chaos hunter and put it on my field
that's fucking pathetic

>>532309903
Yeah that is "woah" because statistically speaking that provided more likelihood to win than going first in any other meta.

>>532308460
Exquisitely retarded.

>>532302876
superpoly removes both of those at the same time and its STILL bad against maliss
when youre hiding most of your interaction in the hand/gy it literally does not matter if you remove things from their field

>>532310151
>thinking mdm tier lists mean anything
sweetie...

>>532309464
I assume by "thematically appropriate" you mean you don't want to play Drytron Herald?

>>532310129
wasn't mask change limited at the time?

>>532310207
>when youre hiding most of your interaction in the hand/gy
maliss isn't thoughever

I love this card so much
Killed someone with their big nibiru token

>>532310281
True, we should ignore data and just go by "feels".

>>532310612
Or perhaps... Believe in the heart of the cards.

>>532310561
thought I uploaded the image but 4chan is retarded

>>532310708
How about, believe in this!

>>532310835

i just want to play runick...fucking hate malpiss so much..fuck banishment floating effects...fuck lancea....fuck this game just let me have fun

>>532311014
tfw this card is why I summon out a negate/pop before I attack for game
like I know only retards play it but I'm not gonna risk it

Sometimes I'm not sure if I'm just bad at playing Blue-Eyes or if everyone else is just hyper prepared to play against Blue-Eyes

>>532309198
>drillbeam every turn until you like it
Oh right, that was probably the one set card he didn't get to use. And yes, i also found it rather fun, lode>roar into a R4NK (he was also running dweller and the dolkka's) while having a way (multiple actually, he also had iron thunder) to blow up your own shit after using it, which brings the phantasm spiral side of the deck online was cool. And the deck will just get better over time because psalm of the kings is a negate from hand, and the new dominus-chan is a compulsory. I might build it once i get some resources to spare, it seems a hell lot more interesting than a bog standard stun deck.

I genuinely despise the braindead design of maliss. Literally every card generates advantage and everything has recursion. Like god damn it's depressing how in just a few years this game went from branded (one of the highest IQ requiring decks of all time) being tier 1 to this glue eater trash.

I can't believe there's no retrain of Mirror Force that's a Counter Trap.

>>532300041
You don't need 3 Lancea. Run 3 Droll and 1 Lancea as a Crossout target. Droll stops Maxx C/Fuwa who are big problems for you. You also don't need 3 Fuwa. 1 will do.

And because you can't search TTT, it's useless at 1

>>532310320
Correct

>>532311189
When you're in plat and lower it's a legitimate thing to watch out for when your opponent has some face down that is giving them no response and they aren't surrendering.

>Retard sees me add March Hare to my hand
>Shotguns called by on White Binder
>Chain GWC
>Uses a second Called by
>Chain March Hare
>Scoop
What was his plan?

>>532297648
>hebephile
Hebephile is such a stupid term. It's perfectly normal, and always has been for men to be attracted to young fertile women. Before we gave women rights and they introduced the age of consent, it was normal for 13/14 year olds to get married.

>>532312338
he had an aneurysm mid-duel after facing the same soulless deck 6 million times in the past month.
do us all a favor and kill yourself.

>>532312289
Everyone once in a while, you'll get that crackhead in Master who runs it for some reason

>>532304394
Ban Lancea

>>532309464
Nadir and maximus? I assume your deck's goal is turboing out the herald omni, so you don't care about the extra deck lock. Thematically maximus is a racist and xenophobe, everything but ritual cards can suck it.

>>532310612
>MDM
>Data

>>532312504
Because it works. I'd say something like 30% of the time opponents will attack even when there's set backrow on your field. Everyone has gotten too cozy after years without mainstream usage of battle traps. Drowning mirror force is better though.

>>532311938
To add, I also think that's it's kind of weird that there exists only 171 Counter Traps in Master Duel.
Tearlaments Cryme, Tachyon Transmigation and Red Reboot etc. are very convenient Counter Traps with good effects, that are also verry to activate and use in the respective decks that use those, and some are even searchable.
What's stopping them frrom creating a Counter Trap that has a very restrictive activation timing such as Mirror Force and is unsearchable?
Negate Attack exists, but it doesn't generate enough advantage and also targets.
I deep down know the answer would be because of Stun decks, but if the problem are Stun decks just ban the Stun cards and floodgates and let innocent unsearchable generics go.

>>532312338
He's this guy >>532311464

>>532311938
>>532312774
Why would you want that? Cards that drag the game out like the mirror forces are obnoxious. Just accept the loss and move to the next game.

>>532312750
>My feels > actual data, even if it's botched by best out of 3 tournaments in a best out of 1 game

What is it with Cyberse decks that mindbreak people? I noticed the same shit happening when Circular released and people pretended that Mathmech was the strongest deck in the format

>>532312504
I have a friend who will randomly put 1 Storming Mirror Force in his decks and he will sit there waiting for the opponent's combo to go through just for them to pop it or put up a negate at the end of it then seethe over the Mirror Force not winning him the game when he could've stopped their combo in its tracks if that card had been a hand trap or even like a Compulse. Then once every blue moon the opponent does run face first into it and he'll say "SEE??? IT'S GOOD BECAUSE NO ONE EXPECTS IT!" or "IT'S GOOD WHEN THEY AREN'T USING BULLSHIT DECKS!".
He's a decent player overall, but refuses to update his deckbuilding philosophy for the modern game or evaluate things based on how they usually go.

MDM tier lists are literally worthless because everyone who plays in the community tournerys is braindead. I remember one time when a hero tard did well enough to push heroes to tier 3 and after that I completely stopped paying attention. Pure idiocy.

>>532313109
Most of the tournaments in the data MDM use don't use side decks even if they're Bo3, or only are Bo3 for top cuts anyway. Community tournaments aren't super representative of top level play, or ladder play, but the data's still worthwhile as long as you take it with a grain of salt.
Not like MD's ladder is full of top level players anyway.

>>532313109
>Even if
No. It's trash and totally useless for any reasonable judgement because of it. You want data, use untapped.

>Finally got my deckout title by playing stall with some mill cards this event
Seven alt wincon wins until I don't need to touch Cook ever again

>fiendslop will never be hit despite it being the biggest bullshit in the game by far just because it fell in usage
this makes me fucking mad

>>532313654
>maliss 36% use rate to the next best of 7%
yeah that's a tier 0 if i've ever seen one.

>>532313654
untapped data sucks as well. Master duel says blue eyes is ~14% of all decks which is such a fucking insane gap between untapped its data is useless

>>532313654
>untapped
Guaranteed (You)'s

>>532313832
Tranny tear downplayer

>>532313583
MDM's tier lists are completely misrepresentative of the actual game. Time and again people get blindsided by cards that Konami hits, going "WHY DID THEY HIT THAT DECK? IT'S NOT EVEN META?!" because they keep referencing that stupid list, when the ladder tells a totally different story. Stun being the best example of this.

>>532313857
Even the official master duel data is questionable. For like an entire 2 years they kept claiming ignister cards had the highest win rates in the game even though you would never see the deck.

>>532314031
>kept claiming ignister cards had the highest win rates in the game even though you would never see the deck.
those directly correlate brainlet

>>532314021
Except they did hit stun and made it unplayable unless you're ready to pay pig for it

>>532313760
It absolutely will, they won't touch moon like some people want, but engraver, tract and even fucking lacrima will go to 1 because pivoting to the engine after getting handtrapped to shit can't be hyper consistent in a BO1 format AND they'll need to sell K9 to everyone once it hits MD.

>>532313832
The official criteria for Tier0 is consistent 66% representation of top cut at tournaments.

Maliss being popular at 36% of the ladder three weeks after release doesn't make it tier 0, retard.

>>532314172
Exactly you stupid fuck. And Stun has never been tiered according to MDM. Case closed.

can you get banned for mass surrender

i already got all my under 5 gems and title. I dont mind helping others out

>>532314021
Again, I said it should be taken with a grain of salt. So should DC results, rating duel top 100s, etc. But those are worthwhile data too. If you can't figure out that data can be useful to consider without it being a 100% infallibly accurate representation of everything then that's on you.

>>532313857
Master Duel's data uses statistics from "the highest rank" . It's unclear whether that means Master, Master 1, top .5% of rating duels, or what. Untapped uses data from the people who download it.

>>532314601
your making the case master duels is significantly better than untapped

how do I play crystron
what does this deck even do

>>532314091
Learn basic probability, idiot. Do you think shit like witch's strike should have a 50%+ winrate because it shows up maybe once every 5 billion duels and wins them when it resolves?

Compiling both win rate and usage rate across only official sources, blue eyes is the best deck in the game. So yeah stop crying about honest decks like maliss and ask for konami to do something about this true cancer.

>>532314879
>be .2% of duels
>but win 80% of the time
yes that would make it the best deck retard

>>532314679
I'm just explaining the discrepancy. Overall I'd agree with that though. I like Mikanko but there's no way it's the second best deck like Untapped claims.
Sometimes the MD official data can be wonky though like how Purrely had a bunch of the highest winrate cards right before Fiendsmith released. I assume it has to do with only players who are really good at a deck like that playing it at high ranks while a ton of mediocre players will get carried by their deck to that rank.

If you actually want a good idea of the meta you should be looking at a lot of different data sources as well as using your own judgement. Or you can just post a MDM tier list and make people seethe. That works well too.

>>532315112
>win rate and usage rate across only official sources
Untapped isn't "official sources"

>>532314357
What are YOU trying to prove? Stun HASN'T been tired. It's just an effective strategy in best out of 1 but it's super gimmicky and when you prepare for it, they just lose.

>>532315214
I'm talking about master duel's in-game reports and the previous WCS results.

>>532315198
>Sometimes the MD official data can be wonky though like how Purrely had a bunch of the highest winrate cards right before Fiendsmith released
Whenever I see shit that doesn't make much sense I always assume the deck leans toward more "hardcore" players who are simply better playing the game rather than the deck itself being so much better

>>532301186
Using this to make white woman againt deadnamer and then go fiendsmith combo is truly a good tech choice for any FS brew in the ryzeal match up

>>532315401
lmao there is no purrely player on earth who could be described as being good at the game.

>>532315507
you would think but the results speak

>>532315401
Yeah, when you see something like that you probably shouldn't be saying "wow that's actually the best deck", but you should be considering that maybe it's a real deck that you could consider playing yourself, even if only because it matches up well into the meta or players aren't prepared for it.

Sometimes it's really apparent that a majority of you are platinum or below.

>>532305654
>makeup
nigga, her face is the most blurry part of the image. Even the background text on the floor is sharper than her fake ass face.

>>532315849
>Sometimes it's really apparent that a majority of you are platinum or below.
I can't play my petdecks any higher so I refuse

>>532315974
just get good bro. i took floo to master like 8 times in a row, well after konami nerfed it to the ground for being too honest in a game full of scumfuckery.

>>532316095
>floo
shut the fuck up bird nigger

>>532314184
>been out since feburary
>not one hit
you are kinda dreaming here

>>532315849
I made it to master V with traptrix once and i've stayed on gold ever since then.

>>532314021
>MDM tier lists sucks balls!
>Stun being the best example
or, hear me out, Konami wants you to dig for newer cards by killing off effective old decks. Crazy idea huh? Nah, couldn't be.

>>532314441
>with a grain of salt
Too bad every retard that posts MDM takes it as gospel despite being the MOST inaccurate of any source.

MDM's tier list is the opposite of worthwhile as it's proven time and time again to be wildly off-kilter, yet it's the one that gets referenced the most. That's why it should get shit down every time it gets brought up. It's basically fantasy and a self-published tier list from some guy on YouTube holds more weight than MDM.

>>532315223
Are you retarded??
How are you struggling this much to understand a very simple statement.

>MDM has never tiered Stun
>But Stun has been meta on the ladder
>MDM isn't representative of that
>Retards get shocked time and again when decks not shown on the MDM tier list get hit by Konami

>>532316141
>cancels out the biggest cancer card of all time (maxx c)
>plays on both turns to promote interactive gameplay instead of solitaire
>archetypal boss monster only shuts down linkslop (cheesiest ED type)
they literally could not make a more honest deck if they tried. you're legit fucked in the head if you hate on floo.

>>532315864
I see girls like her all the time in Tokyo. That's fairly normal for a Japanese girl. Idk why you're seething. You will never pass.

>>532316396
Or MDM's data is completely misrepresentative of what's going on in the ladder, and is thus useless.

Occam's Razor.

>>532316194
I just wish people would play pet decks in master 1 because there is really no reason to touch master ever after the first time you do it.

>>532316467
>despite being the MOST inaccurate of any source
No, that's me. BTW buglink is actually tier 1, Maliss is easily countered by playing White Aura Ghoti, and Ryzeal will flop because they're gonna release Odion support first.

>>532316629
>I see girls like that all the time in Tokyo
you have cataracts or something?
>you will never pass
Schizo-kun? I never defended the troon.

>>532316793
Or, maybe Konami hits old shit to make you play new shit.

Okams razor + String Theory + PEMDAS

>>532313760
>biggest bullshit in the game
>that nobody is playing
Are you retarded or something?

The cold, hard truth no one wants to accept: all tier lists are meaningless. There is no skill involved in this game, it is entirely luck.
>but this deck has better odds of-
Doesn't matter. Are you the kind of faggot who goes to a casino and says "erm i will play blackjack because it has the most favorable odds of any table game?" Kill yourself.

>>532313857
Where are you seeing this exactly? Because iirc, the data reported by the game directly is collected monthly, and Maliss likely hasn't been factored into it.

If BEWD was at 14 last month, and it stopped to 7 the month Maliss dropped, that makes sense.

>>532317812
go into the options and turn on the options to show data after cards played and play a blue eyes card

>>532317096
>Schizo-kun? I never defended the troon.
You are, by attacking the only actual female on that picture.

>>532317464
>>that nobody is playing
open the game once in a while

>>532318002
seen fiendslop once in the past week. maybe you should follow your own advice.

>>532315362
We don't have ryzeal so the wcs is meaningless and the in-game reports show that Maliss is a strong and popular deck.

>>532317897
I did, and I get nothing if I play Maliss cards.

>>532318002
Fiendsmith literally became irrelevant in OCG/MD the second Snake Eye left the format. It exists now solely as a supplementary engine for Live Twin.
Almost as if Fiendsmith was never a problem and you're just retarded

>>532317970
>attacking m'bug lady
So is the blurry chin how they all look like in niptown? Genuinely curious.

>>532318220
Engraver is at one in the OCG thoughbeit

>>532318059
I just met three of them. One Snake Eyes, one Tear pile and one White Forest. It's not nothing just because the top deck doesn't care about it. All of those are competent decks and reach master 1 easily

>>532318421
If you genuinely believe that there are no beautiful young women in the largest city on earth, then you're retarded.

>>532318664
>schizo ramblings that no one ITT said
you good bug collector bro? If it makes you feel better, I'd let that filter face blow me.

>>532318220
>still used in orcust
>used with yummy
>used with dracotail
>some builds with white forest
>even while being limited
disingenuous faggot
https://www.yugiohmeta.com/cards/Fiendsmith%20Engraver

>>532284918 (OP)
>just click yes to everything

>>532318220
>Almost as if Fiendsmith
go jump off a cliff you fiendslop underplaying scum

>>532316467
>but stun has been meta
In your mind, idiot. If it were ever prevalent enough, everyone would be running 4 back row hate cards + 3 evenly.

>>532320223
u tell em sis

>what was the eldlich meta
>what was the runick meta
what a retarded avatarfag

>>532320898
When people just say stun, they mean Barrier Statue/Boarder Stun. Not other decks that also run generic floodgates. You forgot to (You) him btw, so I'll help you out with that.
>>532320223

>>532320898
>Eldlitch was the very beginning of the game, where Drytron and tri-brigade were the baptism-by-fire trio that made the game lose 200,000 players
>Runick isn't your standard "lock you out of playing the game" stun deck
Passive-aggressive faggot-san, you should learn to tag people you're responding to.

>DKayed has started using the gender neutral "HIM"
Xisters I don't feel so good.

>>532321238

>>532321134
I understand skill drain turbo feat bullshit backrow monsters and omni negate turbo pleb filtering people, but how was tri-brigade even comparable to those two? Was it the searchable apex avian?

>>532321431
It had a level of recursion and disruption that just felt "oppressive" when the game first released. Hilariously bad now.

>>532321431
At the start of the game it was extremely cheap for its power level so it was everywhere. Once people crafted competent decks it got BTFOd

>>532321431
It was the best deck in the game in spite of being more "fair", so while the other two could be BTFO with counter cards or by winning the coin flip, Tribrig had a lot more games where even though you played fine and it was a close game they'd still win.
>>532321637
They're not hilariously bad now. Just entirely mediocre.

>>532321431
Did exceptionally well going first or second where the ceiling for most meta decks was only 2-3 disruptions going first + whatever handtraps you drew.

>>532321431
Irrc Barrier statue of the wind was still unlimited so you could summon it from deck with the Simorgh link if you wanted to be extra toxic

No reason

>>532321134
>Runick isn't your standard "lock you out of playing the game" stun deck
Runick back when it was released was literally strongest version of stun, ever. It was highest winrate deck in DC cup

>>532321694
When tri-brigade's best play was cheating in a link to banish 1 card....compared to today where this is just a single card in blue-eyes.....yeah, it's unplayable now.

>>532322224
Even back then Tribrigade was not ending on 1 interaction. They were commonly summoning Apo+Double Dragon Lords or Simorgh into Apex Avian, or whatever else they decided to end on.

>>532322208
Runick stun was pretty much responsible for most of floodgate hits, konami was so afraid of this retarded deck that synchro zone was hit out of all things or whatever that trash floodgate is called. Runick cards will never leave the ban list

>>532322515
That was the turbo degenerate version that had infinite negates. Most people, on release, had knowledge or skill to even setup that board. Thankfully it was rare; wouldn't have wanted MD literally dying on release.

>>532313857
The game's usage data isn't real time. It's collected and updated once a month during the updates. So the numbers you are seeing are from last month, before Maliss dropped.

Blue Eyes was at 14% last month. It's at 7% right now.

Untapped is roughly 1 week behind the actual game, since it took about a Week for Maliss to start tracking, but it's updated like every hour. For reference, this is what the data looks like now.

>>532322939
> Over 1/3 of your duels will be against Maliss
No thank you

>>532322939
Ryu-ge bros... we did it... we're top tier... All those idiots who laughed at us while investing in the barely rogue Maliss are sure feeling dumb now...

>>532322939
No way Goblin Riders got that high of a winrate in this meta.

>>532322939
Post last months list then to compare master duels numbers

>>532322939
This data just implies untappedfags are sweaty meta chasers (duh) who aren't very good at the game

>>532323282
Not that I think that's at all accurate, but there's nothing wrong with them in this meta. They're really good at spot removal which is good vs decks like Maliss, and they also attach the opponent's monsters to themselves which really hurts Maliss' potential to extend. Also they don't give a single shit about Lancea so the opponents will have a worthless brick in their hand a lot of the time.

>scrap recycler got 55.1% winrate
what kind of unholy amalgamation is even using this

>>532323738
Crystron.

>>532323397
I don't have a paid account. The best I can do is July 4th - July 5th

>>532323856
never in my whole life have i ever see crystron using it

>>532322515
I still don't know why the hell did this girl decide to call herself the barren blossom, shit has a double meaning and while one of them is fitting (she's literally a beauty born from a shithole), the other means "when you rape me, ejaculate inside without worry".

>>532324364
Because it's made by Japs who have a tenuous grasp on English slang you idiot.
>But muh localizers
Translated M∀LICE into Maliss instead of M4LICE or something like that.

>>532324364
>Without worry
Impregnation is the best form of corruption. You basically fully own a girl's life from that point on.

>>532324689
But she's barren, literally worthless as a woman.

>>532323992
Shit, you're right. I saw a Japanese streamer using it in something a couple weeks ago, but now I'm not sure what it was or who it was. I thought it was Tasuku or Maguro but I'm not seeing it on their channels.

You now remember Cross Duel

>>532323992
it's apparently a very niche choice
and a 1-of unless you're playing this infinitrack crystron thing

>>532325162
Nah, I remember Rush duels instead

>>532324904
That's what I'm saying. It's not "without worry." It's lamer. She'd make a shit H-Game Heroine because she can't get pregnant.

>>532325162
Bring it back, goddamnit...

>>532325162
I remember the cute red-eyes girl.

>>532325253
how is this deck summoning incelheart?

My next deck’s gonna be Goblin Bikers because they look really fun

>>532324552
I think even M4LICE would be better than Maliss because the 4 could be a reference to mathematics, which is obviously tied to Carroll.

Stop me from building Ancient Gears.

>>532325838
No. Waste your resources

>>532325838
Make a Ninja deck and make people seethe and scoop when you cuck their big playmaker monsters with Jioh’s effect.

>>532325775
And there's 4 main deck monsters, one for each of the suits in a deck of playing cards.

The localizers are complete fucking idiots.
Maliss has zero connection to Alice in Wonderland in its name, and it has a very tenuous connection to Malware.

Hell, retards like Dkayed pronouncing it muh-LISS really aren't that far off, as that would be a more common reading of the ender "liss" showing just how much of a failure the localization was.

>>532325750

>>532325760
Succ'ing stuff will never get old, it's such good removal.

>>532325838
It's just worse Tenpai. If playing Tenpai sounds fun to you but you refuse to play Tenpai because it's too good then build Ancient Gears.

>>532325838
Tenpai can OTK with 1 card and AG needs 2-3 to do so, and that's if it doesn't get handtrapped on its very obvious chokepoint.
>but tenpai dies to ash
That's what supplemental engines are for.

>>532325760
my only complaint with it is all the targeting, so going against protection gets really fucking annoying. other than that it's my favorite deck right now

>>532326382
>AG needs 2-3 to do so,
That's not true. Wyvern, Statue, Advance, and Urgent Schedule are all one card combos into a bajillion damage and only one requires a normal summon. Dark Golem IS a pretty obvious chokepoint, but also few people know the deck well enough see your own post for an example to know that ahead of time so stuff isn't hard to bait out. And that's assuming you don't just search/open with Fortress to protect it. And even then it's not necessary to resolve to OTK.
It also has two card combos of course.

The biggest problems with the deck are that it needs to run too many bricks and doesn't have a ton of non-engine space.

>>532325838
No reason to run Ancient Queers when Millenium can easily put out lethal damage while running a shitton of board breakers.

what should I banish with Kash Unicorn against Maliss?

>>532329646
Sprashu Mage or Decoder

>Can just play pends and ignore whole bs with skull invitation.

>>532323983
>still ~7%
yeah untapped data fucking sucks ass. Highly doubt half of all players stopped using blue eyes in ~one week

>>532329693
Lol
>>532329481
White Binder

what meta deck comes out after ryzeal

>>532330480
I guess after Ryzeal would be the Vanquish/K9 and Yummy meta? they're the top 2 in OCG right now

>>532330416
>Is surprised a good portion of meta chasers switched from Primite Blue-Eyes to the extremely over-hyped Maliss the day the deck dropped
Believe what you wanna believe, but it's really not that surprising.

>>532330480
the tranny FGC deck becomes meta
a literal furfag deck (xyz)
another furfag deck (fusion)
la creatura

>>532330480
In the same set or after?

>>532330597
Like 5-7 months after.

>>532330480
Mitsurugi, then the JUHU archetypes. K-9, Dracotail, Yummy.

>>532330416
Where do you think the sudden 36% of players who hopped into Maliss came from? Thin air?

Naturally, when a new deck is introduced and it becomes extremely popular, every other deck's popularity is going to drop.

>>532330540
>>532330582
>>532330701
guess it's just ryzeal for me then thanks
none of them really look interesting but at least yummy looks funny

>>532331083
Yummy looks funny, it goes in your tummy, and will make lots of money

>DDD and Solfa support are great
>Need wait 6 months if not more because konami bullshit.

does Rokket only exist in Dragon Link teams these days? it's one of the only Vrain's archetypes I really like but I get the impression it doesn't really work on its own anymore

>luv me juggernaut liebe
>luv me xyz
>luv me scifi
>luv me big robots and big machines
But railway is a garbage fragile deck
What should I build that combines everything I love in an actually strong deck?

>>532332454
That's been the case for MD's entire lifespan. There are a fair amount of Dragonlink variants though.

>>532332562
throw Crystron into the Earth Machines lineup, actually works well
could also look into Super Quant but that's also bad until its new support drops, fits all those boxes though

>>532332562
Ancient Gear is a playable big robots deck, but not Xyz and isn't fantastic but is playable. Crystron kinda too, and is a better deck, but it's in a bit of a questionable spot right now since it loses to the anti-Maliss hate. Ryzeal is a robot xyz deck and will be the best deck in a month or two. Centurion has some robots but probably isn't what you're looking for at all.

>>532332652
Nta, but I now have the sudden urge to play dragon link primite

>>532332987
You could probably find a way to make it work at least on some level with Metalmorph using Red-Eyes as your Primite vanilla.

>>532333114
If I ever actually bought the red eyes cards, I'd whip up a list

When the fuck are we getting instant fusion back!?

>>532333565
When you ban kitkat.

So never.

>>532333565
like many things, you can probably blame Tear for it

>>532333323
Metalmorph is actually really cheap. Just need the 1 Fullmetal Dragon and MAYBE 1 Metal Illusionist as far as URs go. The shitty part is that vanilla Red-Eyes himself is a UR, but you could just use another vanilla dragon. The pro of using actual Red-Eyes is that he's a 7 for making rank 7s, and you can actually make use of Flare-Metal's other effect with him.

>>532333712
You don't have a vanilla Red-Eyes for Dragoon?

>>532333565
It was rotated out of the format.

>>532333943
I REFUSE to craft a UR Vanilla that I've missed the chance to get for free multiple times during anniversary events. I could afford to, but it's the principal of the thing. I will simply wait for them to give us an alt-art Red-Eyes.
Also I have no desire to play Dragoon, especially not if you're asking me to use two bricks for it.

>>532334124
Ok

>>532333684
>>532333708
Are tears weak enough now where it wouldn't matter anymore?

>>532334287
genuinely no, you would think so because of how many hits have happened to it but it's in a state where it would still benefit from and be annoying with any of its toys coming back

>TGC dreads this.

>>532334287
Give it a inch and shit takes over the meta.

>>532334253
Thank you for understanding.

>>532333708
>Blame
You mean thank.
Terraforming and IF were overdue for a ban.

>>532334390
The only way TCG is ever unbanning that is if Metalfoes gets new support that makes it meta, and the deck costs 1000s of Dollars.
Fear has nothing to do with it.
TCG bans to push product.

>>532334758
Not even product pushing, Tewart have massive asshurt with electrumite.

It hurt pends consistency but don't do anything. Magicians still going vomit baronne borrel apo if they can.

>>532334910
Put enough money in front of that fat Jew, and he'll fold like any other kike.

>>532334374
Tears benefit from everything wrong with modern ygo, it's both impressive and downright baffling.

>>532333943
No lol. Why would I waste my dust on that? I think I only made dragoon in a scuffed white forest build using no bricks in main deck

>>532335289
in a way, Tear's been a bringer of change, because they abuse all the dumb broken shit in new ways that are even worse than they used to be, and they end up being the straw that broke the camel's back, and they get banned, so I guess they had a positive effect on things in a roundabout way?

>>532335332
>Why would I
SOUL

Double pop + Burn into OTK is fun.

>newest deck is the strongest
This fucking meme has killed my interest in the game
Like why even bother when they'll just print more powerful cards

>>532335453
Not really because konami bounced to engines and hyper compressed decks not mention more aggressive gimmicks.

K9VS play on both turns which is absolutely ass for anything else, then you have hands stealing your ED because Kashtira horse shit.

>>532335518
Youre like 20 years late to this complaint

I'll leave the deck building to the dragon link experts because I couldn't tell you how the fuck this works (although I do have some clues on intended strategies)

Problem with Master Duels is that the only permanent format is ranked.
Events are temporary and if you don't have a big cardpool you will be forced to use loaners.
Casual duels? Surrenderfest.
Duel rooms? Very hard to find rooms with people who want to do the same shit as you.
I have more fun playing yugioh on an unofficial emulator than master duel. I only keep playing master duel because it's more aesthetically pleasing.

>>532335674
Tear didn't cause Konami to design stronger decks and engines. Tear was the first taste of that philosophy and change in design principles. If anything, the predominance of combo decks that couldn't be stopped that only kept getting worse and worse during series 10-11 is what led to them innovating with this new design style.

Pretty much every major deck in series 12-13 is applying the same design traits first seen in Tear. Tear was more like the prototype at them trying this sorta style for the first time, which is why it surged in this huge jump in power. Because they NEEDED power creep to move away from the coinflip-solitaire decks that were predominant in series 10-11.
>Drytron
>Virtual World
>Adventure Tenyi Pile
>Prank Kids
>Adamancipator
etc....

>>532334124
>>532334374
You're telling me that shit doesn't have a structure deck? Red-eyes enjoyers truly are the most oppressed.

>>532336110
MD could have more balance patches but retards still follow OGC schedule format of doing shit every 3 months ish.

>opponent can just negate banish destroy special summon from graveyard or even banish etc
Literally what's the fucking point
You win on your first turn or you don't,there's no game

>>532336262
VW is shit and pretty much carried by fun dragon.

>>532336279
probably because a Red Eyes Structure would genuinely be garbage, most of the actual Red-Eyes cards suck ass cause it's not even really a deck, the Metalmorph stuff is but that's connected to Red-Eyes as like a formality

>>532335850
>One beryl
>Roar
Where did you get this list it fucking sucks

>How to fix solitaire deck
>Make decks go full combo on both turns.

Bloody brilliant.

>>532336362
tenpai jumpscare

>>532336425
It topped at tournaments for a long time. The point stands. The meta during series 10-11 heavily favored the idea of going first and playing solitaire, outside of small pockets of good like TOSS format where Sky Striker was at its peak, or that brief window after Tenyi pile that Branded was the best deck.

It's why early into series 11 a bunch of going second cards for added, like TTT and Droplet, hoping to curb that, but it still wasn't enough.

Say what you want about the current style, but games are way more interactive than they were in series 10-11.

Tears, Vanquish Soul, Branded, etc... these were all attempts at starting to move away from the boss Monster spam.

>>532336852
>way more interactive
>negate banish if this card is sent to the gy you can rape your opponent trishula etc etc

>>532336506
I literally just took a shell of a dragon link deck and added the RE-Metalmorph cards + some Primite cards. Decks I referenced only used roar + Load so added one beryl and drillbeam

The roar only seems to be there to fish out the lv 6 from deck, XYZ summon into Atum and summon any dragon from deck for your combo assuming you also have a bystial live. Or, you just use the extra body for link plays

>>532337171
Go play Drytron format and tell me how much "fun" it is.

>>532336852
Those decks do more than any other deck can chew, not mention always being backed with horseshit like branded expulsion and handtrap punishing like Kashtira and K9.

>>532337427
>any other deck can chew
Any other deck before the format rotated? Aren't you following the conversation? Series 12 marked a deliberate attempt to alter how the game was played in series 10-11. This required they use powercreep to force this change. Tears, Branded, Kashtira, Bystials, Vanquish Soul, Labrynth, etc.... that final year of series 11 saw them start to abandon the older style and push for newer more flexible decks that could play through a lot more interruption, have more recursion, and use more engines. Then in series 12, it started to fully formalize with stuff like Snake-Eyes, Fire Kings, Yubel, Maliss, Ryzeal, Yummy, K-9, etc....

Series 13 just started, and you're seeing a continuation of this design trend, with an increased focus on engines, as you can see with the new DM stuff which is meant to play as an engine for multiple spellcaster decks. Very similar in design philosophy to Fiendsmith.

>>532336781
Transcendent dragion turning everything off is bullshit, i once saw a replay where the dude took the maxx sneed challenge, and despite his opponent drawing like half his fucking deck, he only drew something to stop him right after he summoned transcendent. It was a snake-eye troon so shitting on him that hard was morally correct.

Really though, this deck being able to clear your infinite negates board with cards from 20 years ago, then kicking your ass with just 1 card, while having answers for just about every other meta deck in its toolbox was honestly cool. I wonder when we'll get another truly go second deck like it.

>Pend control was a thing.
>Playerbase got really uppity because they could be punished later by pend 5.
>Links came and kill whole thing.

>>532338360
It's not going to be Tenpai level of not giving a fuck about the opponent's board, but the Gem Knight support makes it an actually good OTK(not FTK) deck.
My favorite part is that this guy lets you make use of the shitty old fusions since he just shits out Ruby+Topaz+Aquamarine. Then you can copy Topaz with Master Diamond to punch really hard.

Is it worth building Maliss when I already have a Mathmech deck?

>>532338885
Do you like Alice in Wonderland?

>>532338360
Lunalight can do same shit well as Solfa, difference is that tenpai is downright stupidly uber compressed archetype.

You can punish those way before they get in OTK range.

>>532338828
oh shit that's my FUARKING hero master diamond, did his twin onahole wives also get a retrain?

>>532338828
I don't really like FTK stuff and I'm happy the new Gem-Knight stuff moves away from that, maybe I'll look into it when the new support for it drops because I really do vibe with the designs a lot

>>532339039
Lapis got mostly un-dollified.
Note the "your opponent takes half effect damage in the main phase" part to see why the new cards aren't just FTK support lmao

>>532338828
i know that this dude is basically cac tier, but summoning all the og fusion and then win through the good ol' fisticuffs is just so cool in my book

>>532339407
I started Yugioh with Master Duel's launch and was one of the people who fell for the Gem-Knight starter deck noob-trap so I'm pretty excited for them to actually be somewhat good, and without needing to FTK. I thought Topaz with Fusion Weapon equipped was an awesome win condition at the time.

>>532338950
No but I like bunny girls

>>532339895
>11GB update
On mobile?

>>532339220
>search
>extra normal
>if you fuse/link her off, discard her, or just dump her directly with brilliant fusion, she summons herself
genuinely insane, can my traptrix deck get a similar card please?

>>532339895
I'm fully expecting the update to either brick my laptop or be mostly unplayble.

Where is my fucking ED monsters?

>>532339339
>Z/Z/Z
miss me with that gay shit

>>532339959
if you didn't get the same message on mobile then no

>>532339895
About time we got the update that implements VR gear-less solid vision so you can summon dark magician girl in face down ass up position.

>>532339339
>almost done building DDD as it is right now
>the new support finally drops
>it's actually good
genuinely cannot wait

>>532340568

>>532340793
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NySX08JN_44

Solfa also got a nice boon, but issue is that they still are pend decks.

>>532329481
It also runs 5 bricks

>>532341064
Solfachord's one of those decks that I've always been interested in because it seems pretty simple when it comes to Pend decks, but I know the state of it right now isn't super great so glad to see it got a lot better

>>532339895
AIIIEEE MY SSD IS ALMOST FULL

THANK YOU LYNA

>>532341535
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Solfachord_Happiness

It got a nasty ass non OPT card that lot of decks would murder for it, then you see how pends work and it's just bare minimum to make it work. Pendulum call do similar stuff but without double pend, at cost of cucking you out of electrumite.

Tempai players are so braindead

Quite amusing that people complain about pends being sloppa but best pends decks are free from sloppa, I mean, Textman have whole nope in archetype, Melodious is far off better played pure, DDD xenolock but have whole ED to burn, Solfa got support support and archetype cards making quite independent from any engine.

Dracoslayer and Yuya are exceptions but still suffer from lack of proper support, but at this point feels more like a legacy thing than proper decks.

>>532342014
Damn, i really want to play solfachord for some reason.

>>532288620
chain detonator
handtrap
handtrap
chain detonator
negate on resolution
handtrap
chain detonator
aggregator
chain plugin
attach
attach
chain detonator
handtrap
chain detonator

Crossover Breakers
>Alice in Wonderland
>Pokemon
Ok, I kinda get it. But what the fuck IS Ryzeal?

>cancer that spam rank 4.

Where I did see this before. It wasn't even plushfire fault, it was trick clown and cock master

lmaoooo

>>532341305
You don't run it with Exodia. You run it as an engine with for feindslop.

SHOULD I BUILD ABC FUSION BROS
IT LOOKS LIKE GAOGAIGAR

>>532346890
going second decks like tenpai and ancient gear are more than just putting damage on the field. they turn off interactions so they can kill the opponent

>>532347376
And the card that do that are either limited, prone to bricking. In the case of Ancient Queers you need to run only Ancient Queer cards and you don't have much room for boardbreakers. Fiendslop + millenium can also put up field if it fails to otko while the others need to go all in. The engines can be slopped into whatever deck you want too. That's why the top decks play them.

>>532347323
>IT LOOKS LIKE GAOGAIGAR

>>532347656
I don't know what game you play where your opponent will just sit there while you go through your millenium fiend slop shit after he went first. Ancient Gear decks run board breakers and Chaos Ancient Gear giant shits on any of your millenium slop shit.

>>532347323
Nah, sadly. I love the XYZ-ABC's but they're just super fucking middling and don't have much good to end on. Even shoving Fiendslop into it doesn't make it anymore fun. Unless Konami adds in more support, like the VW retrains don't waste your gems.

>>532347949
Yeah that's why Ancient Queers are unseen while Fiendsmith control is still popular in Maliss meta with the Millennium package beginning to see more play in it.

>>532347323
>>532347875
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLg2l7ePDfo

>>532347875
That's more Might Gaine

>>532347875
>>532347323
>>532348350
>Almost all of the Vehecroid boss monsters and fusions are super sick-looking giant robots ala Voltron
>All main deck monsters are stupid fucking goobers with googly eyes

>>532284918 (OP)
Came to the conclusion that playing 12 more duels of neutered Exosisters against fucking Sushi slop niggers and Naturia FAGGOTS isn't worth 100 gems.

Are pends any good? I'm looking for a strong and effective yet interactive and fun deck

>>532348174
Ancient Gear is definitely a better OTK deck than trying to play Millennium Fiendsmith as one. But Millennium Fiendsmith is obviously a better deck because it doesn't throw away every won coin flip like an OTK deck does.

>>532351170
What do you mean by "pends"? That's almost like asking if fusion is any good. The current best pend deck is pend slop aka Dracoslayer aka Melodius Superheavy Samurai Majespector Amorphage Dracoslayer. It always has 1 or 2 people in the top 100 of duelist cup type events. Those sorts of decks are not "interactive" though. You just shut down everything the opponent attempts to do if your deck manages to do what it's designed to do.
There are other decentish to pretty good Pendulum decks that aren't like that though. Like Vaalmonica, Pure Melodius, or Majespector.
Also other decks that are like that but varying degrees of less sloppy, like Endymion, Vaylantz, or Supreme King.

Whether you find decks like that fun is up to you.

>>532349689
>he's actually mad about the SUSHIP loaner
holy shit. And it's not even a full length event.

>>532351749
All meta decks NEED to be able to OTK because Konami starting giving everything crazy amounts of recursion after POTE. SE FiendSmith Millennium dominated because if it lost the coin toss it could overwhelm boards and set up consistent OTKs. When it fails it's due to getting Max C'd and the opponent drawing into Nib or Veiler.
What makes SEFSM good is that the ability to board break is baked into the engines it runs so it doesn't need dedicated board breaking cards.
The only going second deck that surpassed it was Tenpai before all the hits because the engine was so small and consistent that you could run it with all the hand traps and board breakers needed to stop other decks. It also had first turn play that could be difficult to get past without the right cards.

Why do so many people in Diamond fold at the slightest inconvenience

>>532353496
diamond 5?

>>532353496
Because they never intended to climb to master rank, losing doesn't matter to them, there's no reason for them to tryharding, if anything they're wary about winning too much especially at D1 bracket

>>532353065
There's a big difference between a deck that has higher than average OTK potential and a deck that is dedicated towards it.

>>532353496
Diamond for me is either impatient Master players or shitty plats that lucked out and is hardstuck at D5

>>532353496
because if you can't stop your opponent from playing you might as well surrender and try again on the next match

>>532355215
The big difference is viability.

>>532351170
it'd be easier to look for the pot of gold at the end of a rainbow

What are they adding that's 3gb?

>>532358417
are you illiterate

>>532358482
Are you?

>>532358417
Raye strip show mid duel

Am I just shit out of luck if I want actual interaction and not just a billion negates and banishes into OTK?

>>532358991
Does this include Raye sex after winning the duel?

>>532358417
Its a Unity update.
Framework shit will have changed. Little, if anything, will have been added but they'll be making you redownload files where shit has changed.

>>532358417
they are not -adding- 3gb, you are downloading 3gb

there's a fundamental difference you are not understanding, a lot of people don't, for some reason

>>532360021
The whole app is only 5gb. That's not a patch or an update.

oh cool another event pacifis niggers are freely allowed to shit up

>>532363476
oh hey that's me lmao

literally why are there labtroons in the event

Bros what was that card that had a moon on it and it looked super cool?

trying to get my last win and suddenly I find all the chink cheaters huh

it's a weird coincidence that everyone who beats me is a cheater

>>532365513
Attack the Moon?

>>532365736
It was Worm Zero, I found it 2 seconds after making that post
Unfortunately, it seems every card that has super cool art is total shit

Is masked hero a good deck

>>532366302
there are no main deck masked hero cards, and there is currently only one masked hero fusion that is worth running(at 1 copy)
you will not be playing a masked hero deck, you will be playing a standard hero deck

>>532352217
Those dracoslayer lists are literal one trick pony, sure it can clog board and floodgate but can only do that, also most people use FTK to skip whole bullshit rather than dealing with opponent magically having out.

Issue is that links bottleneck deck design and forced every single pend deck to do exactly same shit before any sort of gameplan, majespecter and abyss actor could sit behind beaters and play control game, now it's completely useless because removals got stronger and decks got way too fast.

Magician still see ton of play because zarc and can be a blessing under roach and current decks don't deal that well with big removal like that. Also, pends in general have fuck all ED monsters.

>>532363476
I hope you enjoy my big normal monsters and shit loads of traps

notto disu shitto agen

>>532351170
Pends dont really have a whole lot of variety, its either all in comboslop or a deck that is only pretending to be pendulum like valmonica. There are no real mid range pend decks

>>532360275
master duel is 12 gigs

>>532380859
Geez I wonder why.

>>532380859
isn't melodious more like mid-range while being a pendulum deck?

>>532382261
Melodious is a fusion deck that just has a couple of scales because Arc-V

>>532382261
Midrange is anything that put a modest board and play through disruption, which technically apply to top pends atm.

Issue is link kneecapping decks hard and making them have zero recovery. Also, dumb cunts get really butthurt when so called midrange deck go full combo.

Mating Pressing Purrely...

>>532382584
Melodious play the whole pend game, specially if want reach the end board.

Ostinanto engine is whole different deal.

>>532382979
Most of the time you don't even need to Pend summon, and if you do it's just to throw one last body on field you need

>>532377754
>Issue is that links bottleneck deck design
Not an issue, such mindset exist solely because people like you (and some dude in Konami too I suppose) are so hellbent to treat pendulum as some sort of an archetype instead of just another inherent special summon mechanic. For me deck like SHS is an example of pendulum done right, that's how pendulum summon supposedly work prior to master rule 5.
Treating pendulum as an archetype is how you get bottleneck in deck design, it's not a link or extra monster zone's fault

>>532383803
SHS isn't even an pend deck, just another deck that happend to have pend card, which is an enable in that case.

DDD is much better pend example, because it make full use of whole gimmick of summoning every type available.

You know, just like anime.

>>532384146
I never said SHS is pendulum deck, what I'm saying is SHS is an example of pendulum summoning done right, that deck is how pendulum summon supposedly work, it's not supposedly require so much complicated setup & preparation. In SHS pendulum summoning is just a small part of their combo flow, the deck doesn't need electrumite, beyond, exceed, the deck doesn't need more than 2 pendulum cards, pendulum summoning isn't ride or die for SHS. For SHS pendulum summoning is just another inherent special summon mechanic, just like synchro, XYZ or link

>>532387142
But whole discussion is about pend decks, not something that may drop pends like SHS and Lunalight.

Half of gimmick is drop stuff on ED then do a fat pend for whatever, or body spam then pend summon to recover and keep going. Issue like you said is Konami printing generics that do nothing but extend, and they almost never printed ED pends during MR3.

Links are both blessing and curse for pends, as they help with gameplan but also funnel whole crap into being choked on link 2 or instantly nibbed on pend. Also, scales are hard minus by design and links act like a crutch for that, when deck is properly supported like DOOD wave it becomes less an issue and more an matter if you can push through or not.

Konami is completely directionless with pends, and retards complaining about muh pepe and Tewart with electrumite don't help.

I don't think there is like a single pendulum archetype done right. Most of them is used for combo slop pile. And the ones left basically ignore pendulum aspect for the most part.

>>532389781
Trust the plan. Dinomist support will SAVE Pends as an archetype.

>>532389781
Majespecter was doing control game and everyone got uppity.

Never thought I'd have a mirror match against another Cyber Dragon deck.

Sex with Ragnazero

>tfw can't play ritual beasts because lancea fucks me in the ass
THIS META FUCKING SUCKS!!!

this game without called by and maxx c would be a 1000 times better

>>532391652
Get rid of ash blossom too.

>>532392243
Lets not get crazy now. Ash is the only thing standing between us and 15 minute combos

>>532392567
Modern decks downright ignore ash. Malice can droll itself and go full combo for fucks sake.

>>532392567
No, ash only affects non-meta decks. It's unbalanced. If it was like droll and prevented future search effects that turn it would at least be fair.

>>532391652
so you're gonna get rid of Fuwa along with Maxx C right? Right??

>>532392567
Ass Blossom kills petdecks and does nothing to meta decks, it should go

Impregnating Purrely

>>532389781
D/D/D is literally what you're asking for

>>532393030
Nothing wrong with the mulcharmy cards. Their specific and have a limit.

>>532393125
I'm pretty sure that's a male cat you're talking about.

>>532389109
>pend decks
And that shit is what I mean when I'm talking about you guys treat pendulum as an archetype.
>it's not pendulum summoning unless my deck consist of at least 20+ pendulum cards
Unless you play Endymion, your pend endboard still the same variation of Apollo, Baronne/Savage, Vortex + named card anyway, almost like SHS endboard that achieve the same thing with just 2 pend cards

>>532393389
>I'm pretty sure that's a male cat
proof?!?!

Why do Ryzeal not only get their own good archetypal cards, but also a custom made CAC tier archetype that's direct seamless support?
Is asking for my table 500 petdeck archetype to get it's own Ext Ryzeal too much? I'm not even asking for another archetype that's broken and supports it like Mitsurugi...

I just got hit with Metaltronus for the first time and I wish I never ever knew this game existed

>>532395404
>Is asking for my table 500 petdeck archetype to get it's own Ext Ryzeal too much?
it is for mine at least, I want Simorgh to get new support but the game is too fucking traumatized from the Link-3 summoning out degenerate shit so I'm forever cursed even though they banned Wind Statue already

>>532380859
"Midrange" only exists in MTG.

>>532392243
Ash kills shitter/x pass/stun with extra step decks, can kill a good part of meta decks' main combo line when used well, can negate the roach and mulcharmies and is HOPT
4orehead chan is fucking perfect.

>>532395823
next thing you know people are gonna start asking to ban Imperm

>>532325162
>Mobile only
>4 players
>Greediest monetisation imaginable
I don't know what they were expecting. I hope they kept the models to reuse.

>>532395778
Is this really true? I would call swordsoul midrange deck, or like early Branded

why would a card like emergency teleport ever leave the banlist?

>>532353496
It's the correct move.
There's no point in watching your opponent play if you have no answer, this game doesn't really go past turn 2. If they have more extension then you have responses, move on.

I swear this fucking game just does everything in it's power to make you lose when it's your rank up game

>>532396932
What year are you stuck in?

>>532396927
midrange in ygo feels a bit like a meme if u compare it to other games but something like salamangreat or voiceless setting up 2-3 interruptions and followup possibly through handtraps definitely feels like midrange

>>532398609
did you read the card, and understood what it does?

>>532396932
>special summon 1 (one) level 3 psychic from your deck or hand but banish during the end phase
>”yeah this needs to be banned in 2025 yugioh”
Post rank.

>>532400217
*level 3 or lower, whoops.

>>532395778
>>532396927
When people say midrange in Yugioh they just mean a combo deck but the combo takes 2 minutes instead of 20.
There's obviously a difference between something like Centurion and Junk Sneeder Synchrons but we don't really have the terminology to explain the difference so we just borrow the term midrange.
It works fine, there's no reason to start being autistic about semantics.

How does one counter Maliss

>>532400595
resolve lancea, maxx c or fuwalos
if you didn't do one of those things then go next, the endboard is functionally unbeatable

>>532399610
Yeah, I did. But in modern yugioh that literally means nothing. What decks that aren't psychic or 3-axis are even running it?

>>532400676
Sasuga, Konami…

>>532399610
It summons a card from deck that isn't a Maliss monster, so it does literally nothing

Maliss has made me miss Snake Eyes spam.

>go second
>open 3+ handtraps
>use them on the optimal targets each time to try and remove future interrupts
>opponent keeps playing because the handtraps I opened weren't the ones that skipped their turn outright
>they still end up making more interruptions than I have other cards
>I lose
How the fuck do people not go fucking insane on the ladder I swear to god most of my games have been trying to desperately stop Maliss and Blue-Eyes players from playing, and being wholly unable unless I open like 4 handtraps and roll the dice on whether THEY opened like a single handtrap which stops my deck entirely.
>have to stop Ether Beryl because otherwise they get Drillbeam
>if I stop Beryl they just make Spirit with Eyes of Blue and search mausoleum
>if I stop Spirit, I have spent 2 handtraps to stop ONE card they had, the other 4 are likely extenders which mean I need more shit to stop them
Same shit for Maliss
>have to stop any Maliss name hitting the fucking field
>have to also hope they didnt just open their Traps because now they can dodge shit like Imperm/Veiler
>have to also hope they didn't just open a Bystial either because then they just keep going (also my Bystials don't do shit because they just get their shit back)
>if they even remotely get a whiff of a resolved Maliss effect they layer many non-targeting interruptions that can outright stun you just because you didn't just open Lancea
A banlist giving these fuckers the Tear treatment each cannot come soon enough

>>532402004
what deck are you playing? its basically mandatory to have some ways of breaking boards in-engine now, not just relying on the right handtraps

>Maliss players end on GWC, Firewall, and Apo.
>Can't do anything to them because they just negate everything with Apo and the moment I actually start to play the game, they just use GWC and give their Firewall 3 bounces
>Can't even called by White Binder because they always have March Hare in hand
Sometimes this game just wants me to lose

>>532402153
Centur-Ion Bystial, but I may have to retire it because its just not able to keep up with what other decks can output while also being as fragile as it is

>>532402004
>Shot gunning interruption
There is truth in what you're saying but blindly negating things isn't going to help. You have to think about what board your deck has a better chance in breaking for the one to one interactions. Or just stop playing one to one interactions and use more turn skips

>>532396932
Because it summons a very specific type of monster and every monster that has fit those specifications since its release has been balanced around its existence and none of them are a problem. We're not in 2020 or earlier when a spell that... SPECIAL SUMMONS ONE MONSTER!!!!! was actually something special.

>>532400217
>a not once per turn extender
>WOW THAT'S SO BALANCED LET'S PUT IT AT 3
Your ONLY problem with it is that no deck at the top is running it which is an asinine fucking view.
>>532400809
An extender always means something.
>>532402606
>no locks like generic extenders like fusion deployment
>not once per turn
>if you negate the extender they just activate another one
>downplaying the summon of one monster
>in the era of one card combos where that one monster turns into 7 negates or more

>>532404068
You’re acting like getting three level 1-3 psychic monsters on the field in one turn is somehow gamebreaking.
Why?

>>532404068
Emergency teleport does not turn into 7 negates or more. Nobody bothers to run it because you have to dedicate too much of your deck to turn it into more than one body. It's fine that PUNK decks have a good extender. Just say you hate PUNK instead of trying to blame a random card they use.

>>532404068
Anon what the fuck are you summoning off of etele that you consider it a problem?

>>532404068
>if you negate the extender they just activate another one
This guy wasted his Ash Blossom on a card that PUNK has like 20 redundancies for instead of holding it for a once per turn and is mad he lost instead of just learning a lesson.

People like this proving they're so bad at the game are the only ones that make me doubt the ones who say Yugioh requires zero skill.

>bitching about etele because it put's 1 body on the field
watch when anon discovers fiendsmith tract

>>532404294
Because I have seen how PUNK plays.
>>532404354
I hate PUNK and I hate their retardedely broken extender. Happy?
>>532404465
PUNK

>>532404810
mad cuz bad

>>532404727
>let them get a body on the field
>negate it anyway
>they turn into fiendslop
and what if they exhaust all interactions and then activate that card, what is supposed to happen then? because for all intents and purposes, it's a one card combo.

This dude is STILL seething about Emergency Teleport?

>>532404936
both deserve to be represented with 1 in the banlist

>>532404960
>I HAVE to waste my negate on the card that is likely to have zero impact being negated
>because what if I waste my negate on something ELSE low impact?
>or what if it didn't matter what I used it on?
>they might do something far more easily handled!
>so I have to waste my hand traps!!!!!
Get teleported on.

>>532405280
>we have to ban a card that did nothing wrong and as a result gut Goblin Bikers so I can stop jobbing to P.U.N.Ks!
No.

Ghotis.

>>532405321
>that is likely to have zero impact being negated
gonna walk in circle with you am I?
>you don't know what they have in hand
>you don't want them to activate a card so that even if you negated they could still draw with the field spell
>you don't know if they have that fat bellied card that could remove from the graveyard to summon and extend
>you don't know if that is their only extender
>you don't want them to get a body
WAAAAAAYY too many arguments for using your ash on emergency teleport and many more in favor of it being banned.
>>532405569
>card that did nothing wrong
...

>>532406070
4channel deck.

>>532339895
Seeing how much they increased the minimum requirements makes me think that I might not be able to play after this update lmao
I'll finally be free and retire with my wife Raye...

>>532406117
>I never hold for chokepoints because I don't know their hand
Keep going, you're convincing everyone that you're good at the game and your original complaint was well thought out.

>>532406117
Anon, literally just wait until the new psychics hit the game before you randomly want etele banned. No one who plays the modern game is going to look at etele and say it needs to be banned when there are other cards that are worse. Just accept your loss to punk and move on

Dracotail is getting BETTER before its even out!

>>532405321
I think Emergency Teleport deserves an alt art with a P.U.N.K monster.

A New Hero?? New Support and Old Counters! Competitive Master Duel Tournament Gameplay!

>>532406374
I didn't present a thought out post until now because it was just a rant but PUNK faggots jumping to defend their slop of a deck made me say more. Nothing about my original post is invalid.
>>532406524
So the card is fine until a new strong psychic deck comes out and ruins the game which calls for a ban of said card? That IS admitting the card is broken and argues for removing it now for future proofing.

Dogmatika Fleurdelis, the Thunderous
Level 8 LIGHT Spellcaster Effect Monster

ATK/ 2500 DEF/ 2500

You can only use the (1)st and (2)nd effects of this card's name each once per turn.
(1) During the Main Phase, if a monster Special Summoned from the Extra Deck is on the field (Quick Effect): You can Special Summon from your hand.
(2) If this card is Special Summoned from the hand: You can Set 1 “Dogmatika” Trap from your Deck. It can be activated this turn while your opponent controls a Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, or Link Monster with 2500 or more ATK.

Quadogmatika Beast
Normal Trap Card

You can only activate 1 card with this card’s name per turn.
(1) Target 1 monster in your GY or banishment; you cannot Special Summon from the Extra Deck until the end of your next turn, also send 1 “Dogmatika” monster from your Deck, or 1 monster from your Extra Deck, with equal or higher ATK to the GY, and if you do, Special Summon the targeted monster.

>>532407192
>ban the extender right now instead of the potential problem card that COULD exist in the future
You’re a retard.

>>532407192
>So card X is fine until a new strong Y deck comes out and ruins the game which calls for a ban of said card
Yes. This is how things work out in this game.
Let's look at Pair-a-Dice Smasher, which is a broken card but will only be banned either as a pre-hit before K9 or after K9 releases.
There are multiple examples of this happening in the past in Master Duel, where only after an archetype was released and a specific card starts raping everything that it gets banned.
>That IS admitting the card is broken and argues for removing it now for future proofing
Removing it now for future proofing? Can't do it.
Emergency Teleport is a single card, but if you ban it for future proofing you'd also need to ban multiple other cards, many which are not even used currently in meta decks.
If Emergency Teleport scares you, look at something like Snake Rain for example, which is just waiting for it's time to shine.

>>532407192
What the fuck are you talking about? PUNK is one of the only meta relevant decks that people actually like. If you think one of the most soulful decks in years is slop I'd love to see which ones you actually play.

>>532407795
>>ban the extender right now instead of the potential problem card that COULD exist in the future
Huh? Gonna prevent all future archetypes from having a level 3 psychic as a starter just so the card could stay legal?

>>532407428
>>532407674
Wow these are good.

>>532407192
God I hate this 'argument' so much
If being a good extender in a mediocre deck makes something banworthy then Insects shouldn't have a single fucking card left legal

>>532407428
turn 0 Dogmatika Rituals let's gooooo

>>532407192
> So the card is fine until a new strong psychic deck comes out and ruins the game which calls for a ban of said card? That IS admitting the card is broken and argues for removing it now for future proofing.
No, I'm saying wait until you have even a semblance of an argument for a retarded take like this. Those psychic cards aren't even doing anything in OCG either.

Literally all you're doing is crying "card is good and I lost to it" and just want it banned because you're salty. Are you also going to tell us they need to ban Imsety?

>snake rain
i've been waiting for almost two decades...
can't have anything exceptionally good because it exists

>>532407991
Name a broken level 1-3 Psychic.

>>532407826
Great, so you acknowledge that it's a broken card that is just waiting to be abused by a top tier deck to be banned. A far cry from the original posts that downplayed the oh so measly one special summoned monster.
>>532407831
PUNK is played with Kashtira and Fiendslop so it has no soul.

>>532407428
Wait Fleur is alive?

This guy’s seething at P.U.N.Ks harder then I do at Maliss.

>>532408069
PUNK isn't a mediocre deck, however. It's just not being played as much to warrant the hit.
>>532408237
It's not broken but an extender. Ze Amin. It's the sort of consistency hits they love to do so much.

>>532408468
He probably just had to spend 3 turns staring at a PEP he didn't have an out for.

>>532408151
they literally just made a tier 1 reptile archetype retardkun

>>532408294
I'm not any of those anons who was originally discussing with you, but I just replied to you with the facts.
It's just how the game and Konami work. As problematic as a card might be in the future, it's practically considered irrelevant until shit hits the fan.
Have you looked at Reptilianne Ramifications? It's legitimately a broken card by design, but it's currently doing nothing worthwhile, just like Emergency Teleport.

>>532408294
>we should make a bunch of archetypes worse because POTENTIALLY a future archetype that does not exist yet (or might not ever) could use the card better than they do
so you're acknowledging that it's not actually that bad right now and will only be a problem in the future if they make something (if) that could use it better, in that case just ban or limit it when it becomes a problem

>>532408637
>>532284918 (OP)
>/mdg/ - Master Duel General
Show me said archetype in Master Duel, because I don't see it.

I use E-Tele on my Myutant deck.
Don't ask why.

Anons, I found the silver bullet to the top decks in the meta - Even fiendsmith and maliss kneels to it. Why isn't anyone playing this card? Is it some secret tech?

>>532407674
So I can toss Naturia Exterio or any other typical Waking the Dragon target into the GY and use this to SS it

Anon is right, C.U.N.T is a cancer deck, dishonestly drawing cards non stop with a fake cost (LP)
sharakusai and carp look gay as fuck and apparently ze amin is a tranny
and let's not forget how these cards were used in absolute slop for chaos ruler and zombie vampire, and they're mashed with fiendslop and sloptira
ze amin should be banned

im too lazy to clear dailies

>>532402004
>have to stop Ether Beryl because otherwise they get Drillbeam
retard. You negate the link 1
t. blue eyes kang

I fucking love exploding a board with Grand Partisan, investing into Insect has been the best thing I've ever done, this deck's fun as fuck

>>532407428
>Fleur not dead
I always believed.

>>532407428
>Lab support

>>532413181
This is her during the middle of the story though

>>532408294
>PUNK is played with Kashtira and Fiendslop so it has no soul.
Wait until you play against Millenium PUNK, then you'll really be seething

>>532412234
Blaming a deck for using genieic slop is hilarious when those cards have been consistently abused in other and more powerful decks to greater success. Literally the only unique thing it has going for it is the draw 2 and pep

>>532413350
Source?

>>532407428
>>532407674
These are good but will do very little for the deck since they do nothing for its problems. It needs a real engine update more than anything. The trap is questionable when Punishment is more reliably good, but Punishment with the new Fleur isn't as good as it sounds because Dogmatika wants to go Almiraj into Secure Gardna to turn on Ecclesia+Maximus' special summon requirements. If you Punishment on the opponent's turn 1, and shut down their turn then there will too often be zero extra deck monsters on the field so Ecclesia can't be specialed.
One nice thing about them that isn't super obvious is that Mouser means you can at least set one of their monsters down to keep Dogmatikamatrix live unlike with the current Punishment targets.

Fleur will buff the deck for anyone who insists on playing it, but won't be enough to convince people who weren't already willing to play it. She's splashable for non-ED decks I guess which is kinda neat.

SEEEEEEX!!!

>>532413668
It's a new card, and as such there's no Master Guide or Valuables Book yet.
So there's no source and therefore it's just an assumption based on artwork.
But on the same hand, you can't simply say it's her after the end for the same reasons.
Just look at the artwork and her expression? Is it expressionless just like the later story arcs? Anon, she became a Tulpa.

>>532407991
>Gonna prevent all future archetypes from having a level 3 psychic as a starter just so the card could stay legal?
Yes. Just bump it to level 4 or make it non-psychic. You can even just write "cannot be special summoned from the deck except by "ARCHETYPE" cards" on it.
They can just not make cards that break other cards if they don't want to.

>>532411662
People don't play it because they have a sense of honor. It's just too strong.

dont reply to the e-tele retard. it's the same mtg faggot who wants set rotation in ygo

>>532413668
The new card depicts her escaping the Dogmatika nation soon after it started becoming Despian. She's still wearing parts of her Dogmatika armor in the new card which means it's before her armor got corrupted and became White Knight of Dogmatika and later Despian Quaraeteetatstus and then absorbed into Granguignol.

You can also see the brands attaching themselves to her limbs in the new card, especially in her left eye. After she escapes she goes to the Ice Jades to be purified of the brands as depicted in Icejade Cradle. And she has to wear a talisman to seal her left eye afterwards as shown in Iris Swordsoul.

>>532407428
>Dogmatika Fleurdelis
holy shit

>>532308460
Tearlaments was a better format if only by virtue of actually being skilled matchup and not the sacky bullshit we have right now.
All the people can seethe and dilate about Tearlaments, it’s the best deck ever made and the only problem with it is that they released it 3 years too early because now we are actually getting competent turn 0 decks on paper format.
Tears is still strongest.
But don’t worry Anon, I can’t wait to be vindicated once Ryzeal hits and EVERYONE will bitch and moan about it because it’s the cancer deck between it and Malice lmao.

>>532407192
>So the card is fine until a new strong psychic deck comes out and ruins the game which calls for a ban of said card
yes you fucking retard

>>532408529
>PUNK isn't a mediocre deck
lol

>>532415303
Actually, they should ban Ready Fusion and Extra Foolish Burial in case they ever accidentally make a level 6 fusion that wins you the game when it hits the GY.

>>532413094
Nukes are based.

We have had a unique nonsensical melty every day for a week straight. Impressive

>>532415449
I predict the next reply from him will unironically be:
> Untapped man, save me AIIIIEEE

>>532414919
What is it about Branded that makes it so much more interesting than the other lore archetypes. When a new set of Diabel or Dracotail cards gets listed nobody cares other than if they'll be meta but post 1 new Branded card and there's genuine discussion on how it fits into the lore.

>>532415645
Untapped says Mikanko is one of the best decks so actually they need to ban E-Tele because it can summon Huli.

>>532414425
Tag all of his posts

>>532415936
The cards are genuinely cool and it has the best story this game has ever seen. Combine that with the cards being meta and you have a recipe for success

>>532415591
Either new player angst or someone incorrectly blaming legitimate problem cards / engines on random cards. His whole argument falls apart the minute fiendsmith is axed from the game because it boils down to "why does my opponent have another extender after I used like 3+ hand traps" or whatever. That's not an etele problem, that's a "fiendsmith is eating through all my handtraps" problem

>card story/lore

>>532415936
People absolutely discussed the lore for Sinful Spoils cards. But also Snake Eye was font and center gameplay-wise despite being the least impactful to the story aside from Morganite, and it was a super unpopular deck from a gameplay standpoint, only being played for how overwhelmingly strong it was. And it was too hard to make out what was actually going on in the Sinful Spoil cards until Konami told us.

Now Visas, that's a recent lore nobody gave a SHIT about. All you get is "why are there kashtira versions of the other cards?". And "wtf is even going on in this story anyway? Oh, that's lame.".
And old multi-archetype storylines suck because they're mostly nothing but villain of the week+hero of the week. World Legacy is OK but there isn't a lot of character development given to them. Duel Terminal starts to get interesting 90% of the way through but has a million worthless archetypes bloating it up.

>>532416667
The whole Dracoslayer series is somehow even more forgettable than Visashit

>>532416000
Lol
Lmao even

Was Aleister sealing himself after the Magical Meltdown experiment a self-fulfilling prophecy? He's called the First Propheseer during the time he's being used as battery, after all.
Anyways, can't wait for the OCG manga to reveal Aleister became Augoeides because Endymion forcibly woke him up.
Please don't fuck this up Mr. Yoshida.

>>532416845
I wonder what percentage of players could actually name the archetype in the Dracoslayer storyline that recently got meta-relevant support.

>>532416667
>>532416845
I think you guys completely miss the point about the Visas lore. But honestly no wonder Branded is popular since it appeals to the basic aura farm nigger shounen trash. None of the interesting parts of branded as a lore involve Albaz or even Aluber.

>>532417412
The point of Visas lore is that nobody cares about it?

>>532417363
what the hell, sneed is on there? i never noticed that

so I really hate the pend pile that calls itself Dracoslayer
but what if I wanted to play the funny Majespecter animals along with Dracoslayer? fuck SHS and fuck Pend Mag, I like the archetypes matching up well

>>532417562
Visas isn’t character driven. It’s not aura farming or whatever bullshit that’s popular, so of course it’s only gonna appeal to a smaller audience.

>>532417992
I don't know what aura farming is but they forgot to make it interesting regardless.

Visas lore would be good if more females.
Riseheart? Reinoheart? There's this artist that has already proven they would be much better if female.

>>532417568
free sneed and ban every mecha phantom beast

>>532418220
The art for Tearlaments is terrible on some cards. Cryme especially. The Scheiren and Havnis ones are super pretty. I don’t like the inconsistency with that lore when it comes to the art and that’s it really.

>>532418220
Cute girl is a shortcut to making a character likable, that much is true. It'd still be boring but at least the monsters would be nicer to look at. I kinda like reichheart though because he feels like a 5th grader's idea of what is super badass.

>>532418373
All the main deck Tearlaments girls look the same to me obviously aside from Kshart one

>>532418956
I was alluding more to the quality of the art itself.
Like this is objectively bad art.

>>532418220
>Visas lore would be good if more females.
visas lore is literally unsalvageable

>>532419872
There's nothing turning characters into female wouldn't solve things.
Imagine female Kashtira Ogre, Fenrir and Unicorn.

>he hasn’t made a Penguin deck

>>532419426
I just noticed Kitkallos making an XD face in the background

>>532420041
the cards would be salvaged yes but the lore sure wouldn't

Have you ever challenged yourself to climb with your favorite deck just for one season. To see if it's actually possible? And if so what deck and how far did you make it?

>>532420267
I used to but we're long past the point where any deck that isn't high tier simply does not get to play Yugioh

>>532420267
isn't that what most anons do???

>>532420267
I just pick one that looks fun and work towards making something that can work in Diamond at least.

>>532420267
ice barrier and it turns out it was pretty easy when I went first and they can't use spell cards

>>532420592
Most yugioh players give up at some point and become turbo metafags. And you can't really blame them because konami does everything in their power to create disillusionment within the community

>>532420115
when the Penguin cards spook me from the Legacy Pack I'll absolutely build it but I'm not crafting the URs from the set for it

>>532421271
thats me except rogue kang but I still play some pet decks

>>532420554
This is cope. People hit Master 1 with decks that are nowhere near meta.

Anons, should I go team fire king or team mermail

>>532421836
Fire King if you're a chad, Mermail if you just want the stronger option.

>>532393471
Pend decks as something non specific, same way that people call synchro or fusion.

And whole argument is about pends benefiting from proper archetype support than generics, read again.

>>532421784
Are we going to have this discussion again?
Just the other day we had a discussion about this.
Just because they do it doesn't means the deck is good or "playable" according to MULTIPLE people in /mdg/ (yes, not a single anon), and just that someone has a lot of free time.

>>532422446
Alright, but they're wrong. Doesn't mean the meta couldn't be better or that the top deck shouldn't be hit, or that some decks have fallen out of viability. But there are still plenty of decks that can put up a fight if you're willing to not play on easy mode.

If you hate Maxx C I recommend Palaeozoics

>>532422976
I've been thinking about trying out Primite Paleo. The only issue is that Guardragon Justicia is the best normal monster since it's a tuner and has 2100 defense, and I'd much rather use Slime Toad.

>>532422446
Anon, i get how you feel and I stopped bothering with high rank.
But even a lower tier deck can push your shit in if it gets going.
Also stun trannies make it to masters or even rated constantly despite the deck being useless going second.

>>532422976
Paleos definitely play into Maxx C if your opponent plays it on their own turn, it’s not completely immune. Even Labrynth you want to cringe when they chain Maxx C to your big welcome. That card is just fucking aids anon.

>>532423219
>if it gets going
>a single disruption stops them
Not playable

Hey, when you guys make your moves could you hurry it the fuck up? Finish your turn already. The timer is way too generous.

>>532423519
Stop starting the game with a 1 card hand.

>Set TB-11
>Normal Dormouse
>Opponent veilers before I even use the effect
>Chain TB
>Opponent chains Dominus
>Summon Dormouse back and play anyway
>Opponent Alt-f4
What is up with people losing all braincells the moment you play a Maliss card? I swear I win more games because my opponent will negate whatever they see first and hope I can't extend

>>532422976
Oh noes
>Chain roach to your summons

How can I improve my railway deck?
This is the "real" deck, currently using a jank budget version while I farm UR

Can we get a powercrept version of Raigeki + Dark Ruler?

>>532420267
yeah, pendmag
I try until M4-M3 then after enough rankdowns I just give up and finish the climb with whatever meta shit I have, I'm sure a better pilot can take it to M1 but whatever
I'm interested in vaylantz, once I get all the cards I need I'll try a climb with it

>>532424949
>my opponent will negate whatever they see first and hope I can't extend
That's how most hand traps need to be used because a good Maliss player will know how to play around them if you let them start to set up. It's the most annoying part of playing against the deck.

>>532416667
>And old multi-archetype storylines suck because they're mostly nothing but villain of the week+hero of the week
that is mostly just duel terminal
sure, Ha Des has a battle with that other guy in almost every lore card he has, but a lot of card lore is more focused on individuals or the group as a whole
Dai Grepher gets sent through many dimensions and falls in love with D.D. Warrior Lady
Warrior of Zera fights temptation and either succeeds or fails(both paths have cards)
the Lightsworn are a group that saves worlds and can only enter a world that needs saving(it takes to much energy to world hop all willy-nilly)
Dark World is an ordinary government(also Kozaky lives there, so everything he is connected to is in Dark World as well as other random vanillas such as Mad Lobster)
I actually really hate how Lightsworn and Dark World encounter each other because they shouldn't even be able to meet according to their lore
after the dog gets brainwashed and Snoww uses it as a puppet she later becomes a Lightsworn herself for some reason?
some people speculate that Reign-Beaux is secretly evil and stole the government from Grapha/Lucent and that is why the Lightsworn arrive(this doesn't explain why Grapha brainwashes the dog)
some other people speculate that the Lightsworn are there to train with their Twilightsworn robes and Dark World is helping them train(the brainwashing is part of the training(they need to embrace darkness to use the robes))
but nobody knows the truth, because none of these events ever get explained in any official lore

Quick-Play Dark Ruler No More?

>newest cards are the strongest
Wow fucking epic, definitely not pay to win

>>532402004
>release super powerful cards
>get the money from them
>after a while they ban them, given the impression they care about the game
>release another more powerful set
>the cycle continues

>>532425641
More like "please buy our newest products"

>>532415290
the gif that killed 4chan...

>>532425328
Isn't even that hard specially because lancea give far more wiggle room compared to previous meta.

If they summon apo, you can just purple poison that bitch away. But currently pends are running FTK because shit is that bad.

>>532415290
Problem with Tearlaments is that you can only play Tearlaments.
That's literally the only downside.
I wouldn't mind if Konami made a Duel Trial where you play full power Ishizu Tearlaments against others doing the same.

Is Ancient Gear archetype any good?

>>532426385
its an OTK deck that does everything worse than tenpai in a format where even tenpai is shit

>>532426162
I guess there are rooms for that but what about cards you can’t even craft anymore for some decks? Plus it feels like shit to craft cards that are banned.
But yeah it would be a good idea to make some sort of “past meta” events where you get to play the strongest decks at their time.

Why doesn't the official wiki list card rarity?

>>532427172
Use Master Duel Meta or the Master Duel section in Yugipedia.

>>532415290
>Ryzeal’s more cancerous then Malpiss
Grim if true.

>>532427172
because that's for cardboard
add _(Master_Duel) to the end of the url
>why do they do that/why not have it on the main card page
wiki maintainers are all autists, only some of which are high functioning

>>532427402
I hope you like detonator.

>>532425127
>How can I improve my railway deck?
bro we keep telling you... shits fucked

Chat am I cooking or have I burnt it

>>532425495
>heh I go full combo and dark ruler no more on your turn. Response?

Do you think ash even worth it in this meta? I feel like the only things that meaningfully slow down most decks are the lingering hand traps especially if you're playing off meta.

>>532427818
;-;
b-but me big machines...
I don't want to just play whatever tier 1 bullshit konami releases only for it to be banned then release more tier 1 bullshit

>>532427402
Let me tell you just one of the few things Ryzeal can do:
They can negate a monster effect on resolution, which means even if they didn't negate your activation or effect during the chain, as long as the Field Spell is on the field it's as if you are Schrodinger's trying to guess if they will press the yellow button or not when the effect is resolving.
And the better thing? More often than not you can't do anything about it.

>>532427827
Man I wish they would expand the penguin support again. It’s a funny archetype. They’re still missing party members.

>>532427994
"going second" decks are in as bad of a state as ever but that list is about as good as you are going to get. The kaiju variant is (obviously) much more expensive so maybe try and find one that doesn't need an extra 3 URs

Is Numeron Dragon a good skill based deck or is it just linear fragile shit?

>>532428358
numeron dragon isn't a deck. It is a 3 extradeck rank 8 package

>>532428236
They made a good one and everyone complained.

>>532429917
Everyone complained because their way of making it good was to remove interactions. The field spell is ban worthy to this day. But other than that it’s also the fact you just run very little engine with 30-32 cards being blowouts.

>lust provoking image

>>532430189
Problem is that modern decks do way too much and is piss easy to stop OTK since they also have those hyper compressed engines with 20 handtraps, and that on top of interaction outside of board.

Not saying that tempai isn't stupid or anything, but you see how fucked things are.

>>532431016
Yeah. Again some deck could farm Tenpai. If you were on Labrynth or Paleo you had a good time.
But overall I do agree with you, engines are too compact, cards do too much and we are still heavy on handtraps. But I don’t see any change coming.

>>532426385
It's OK. Kinda good at best. It has a lot of one card combos that set up easy OTKs, with a good amount of extenders, no "resolve or die" chokepoints, and Fortress is a worse but still good Tenpai Field Spell. Its engine is a bit too bloated for it to really be good though. It was a lot better in Snake Eye format because of how Fortress just solo'd most of their endboard.
It also is kept legal in a lot of events where it is way too strong to be allowed because nobody plays it.

LET ME PLAY THE GAAAAAAAAAAME
KONAMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

Why are TCGfags crying about MD?

>>532422446
Nigga, the difference between a CURRENT meta deck and a t3/t4 deck is like 10 WR.

>>532435598
because it made them realize how shit their game is when a fucking gacha game has better monetization

I'm not ready for apollo usa to go

Sex with Raye while Roze sits in the cuck chair

>>532436202
I am!

>>532412234
>dishonestly drawing cards non stop with a fake cost (LP)
you say that but I have lost way too many games on lava golem pass

Is Nemleria playable? The girl is far too sexy while she's sleeping

>>532436202
She won't be banned

>>532435915
You are missing the point.
You hit Master I using Eldlich, Drragon Link and IDS in today's meta.
t3/t4 deck? Nah, those are nowhere near meta.
According to another anon those decks are unplayable utter dogshit.

>>532439936
>playable
According to posts of multiple anons yesterday regarding the concept of playable, no.
Nemleria is nowhere near playable.

>>532427172
That's not official. the only official database is this: https://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/card_search.action?ope=2&cid=5414
If you want to use a wiki, don't use fandom it is absolutely fucked. use yugipedia: https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Dark_Dust_Spirit

>>532439936
It's really really bad for a modern deck. It's essentially a going third deck since it can barely put up anything as far as disruptions go, and its big play is a mass non-targeting board+GY banish on summon of Dreaming Nemurelia, with no way to summon her as quick effect. And it's rare you can actually pull that off going second, so you do it on turn 3 usually. Its It has big monsters but still struggles to OTK going second. I guess it has destruction protection which can be nice.

In a game where the only two decks were Nemurelia or Vaalmonica, Vaalmonica would be tier 0.

https://db.ygoresources.com/
I personally like this database better if I just want to search for a card without opening Master Duel.

nice board

>>532441410
that shit like re-fetch everything for each search i do

>>532400676
Lol, shitter.

Does TTT works with Maliss traps?

>>532442569
what

>>532442569
Nvm it doesn't for some reason

>>532442569
cannot beats can

>>532442814
Set a normal Trap.
It cannot be activated.
But Maliss traps can be activated the turn they are set.
Same bullshit semantics rulings as Lancea vs Shifter etc.

>>532284918 (OP)
The constant burn really comes in clutch for stalling and finishing duels. I'm really liking this deck, even when it has a fighting chance on events only.

The worst thing about Apo and Maliss is that I can't run over the Apo with my Normal summon. Why the fuck does their field spell make it so you can only attack Maliss Link monsters?

Dragon Link with or without Primite? I'm looking into it because I wanted to play with the Rokket/Borrel stuff and I've seen some that do and some that don't. I know full well the might of a good Drillbeam but is it worth it to run with it? Trying to make a decent 60 card set just to see how far I get with it

>>532443361
Just use imperm you stupid shitter.

>>532443730
>Just draw the out bro!
Fuck off retard

>>532443361
So the 1st effect of all Maliss maindeck monsters aren't useless.
Also, you better thank Undergound wasn't CAC enough, and that it only considers attacks.
Can you imagine if it was a Hammerkong? Forcing you to be only allowed to target "Maliss" Link monsters with card effects?
Rather, can you imagine if March Hare was fucking Hammerkong? Imagine if the "cannot target Maliss link monsters" was "can only target Maliss link monsters"?
>>532443730
>Just open the out

>>532443954
>While you control any "Maliss" Link Monsters, your opponent's monsters can only target those monsters for attacks and card effects.
>While a "Maliss" Link Monster points to this card, your opponent cannot target face-up monsters on the field with card effects, except "Maliss" Link monsters that point to this card.
Please please please please my Apollousa needs more protection because my opponent has ~34% of opening the out!

>>532443215
It scratches my itch for a trap monster archetype
I feel like it could go a bit further with the trap monster gimmick especially since it only has 3 of them, but maybe the new Odion cards down the line will make it better

>>532444374
>>532443954
>>532443920
You mean the many outs a deck has to no destruction protection?
>Raigeki
>Lightning Storm
>Tactics
>Thrust
etc..
etc...

Literally just bait the Apo with anything to put Thrust/TTT online and blow up their field, it's all Link monsters. Then they're forced into a premature GWC, which means Binder can't fuck with your grave anymore, and all you gotta worry about is a single Banish.

Most Maliss' decks aren't even running Terrahertz anymore either.

It's literally a skill issue.

>>532445770
>bro just open 3 specific non-engine
ok

>>532445770
Not every deck has the luxury of being able to run those non-engine going second cards that can potentially brick going first.

>>532445770
Post your decklist right now that can consistently break a full maliss endboard. (You won't)

>>532446012
>>532445920
>YOU MEAN I HAVE TO ADAPT TO THE META?!!!
>NOOOO WHY CAN'T I KEEP PLAYING MY SHIT DECK FROM 5 YEARS AGO!!

If you're struggling with Maliss idk how you deal with Primite Blue-Eyes

>>532446125
>3 Watt Cobra
>1 Watt Pheasant
>3 Watt Train

>>532446187
>>532446125

>>532425127

>>532446125
>>532446292
>inb4 IT DOESN'T COUNT!!

>>532446187
>it's the untapped retard

>>532446390
>tenpai nigger
kek every time

konami caving to shitters who refuse to adapt is how we got primite

>>532446187
>>532446390
>says we have to adapt to the meta
>plays the same deck he's been relentlessly shilling since it released and nothing else

>>532446390
Nta, but how the fuck is this "adapting to the meta"? It's literally the standard tenpai / striker list.

Adapting to the meta is adding super poly, lancea or chaos hunter.

>>532446187
>Deck from 5 years ago
I know you are the same faggot tourist who has been here for a few days, stop attempting to claim the absurd when having arguments.

>>532426385
It's fun but it requires a lot of in-engine to be good. Replace the drolls for Lancea in this pic.

>>532447204
He posted his decklist. It's the nude mod fag who's consistently shown himself to be awful at the game.

how has there not been a banlist announcement yet?

>>532447484
>nude mod
Holy shit, I didn't even catch that. This is just hilarious

>>532447421
What the fuck are you doing with Reactor Dragon? Also you can cut the Gizmek now that we have Clockwork Knight.

>>532447507
check after the update tomorrow and don't expect any hits.

>>532445770
>>532446187
this got them riled up kek

>>532447681
Dragon plus the tuner is Baronne. Gizmek and clockwork knight don't overlap in function at all. Gizmek is just another route to getting the level 8 ancient gear guy out on the field.

>>532447507
What's there to ban?

>>532449357
>Gizmek and clockwork knight don't overlap in function at all.
Yes they do.
>Urgent Schedule for Statue+Dark Golem instead of Gizmek+Dark Golem
>link Statue into Clockwork Knight
>Tribute Dark Golem to revive Statue un-negated
>activate Statue to summon Dark Golem from deck
It gets you one less body than Gizmek does but that rarely matters, and you don't have to run a garnet for it.

>>532449687
EVERYTHING

>>532449708
Gizmek is pitch fodder for droplet if you run it, or Dark golem's discard cost. Zero reason to goof up my extra for such an easily interrupted play.

is 8 axis still good?
i remember having fun bouncing kaijus back to back with fairy tail luna and them getting kills with numeron dragon back when i still played