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>>532547135And a friendly reminder to ignore schizo threads and just bake new proper ones.
>>532577754 (OP)>Calls this the non-schizo thread>Uses an Arisa image?
Whats the schizo thread I dont understand
>>532577910Genderbend alt art when?
>>532577954He keeps putting the wrong previous thread on purpose
Silvarius evo animation just looks like a shittier version of Titania's
Remember when everyone was saying portal had the best cards and were obviously the favorite and the pet class.
And now portal is literally a t3 deck....
Ummmmmm.....
What is the DEFINITIVE artifact list?
>>532578119Portal was a pet deck Set 1, then KMR realized Sword and Rune were hometown so he pumped their Set 2.
LIU FENG IS SO SHIT
GIVE US SI LONG BACK
>>532578097tfw no fairy gf/onahole
Forest friends, I have gone on a massive losing streak today. My roaches and bounces have been hiding from me. Anyone finding success? I've just taken everything higher than 6PP out of my deck and it's made it a little better, but I am having a lot of trouble where I wasn't before.
Aether still an autolose but that's whatever.
>>532578097ahhhh fuuuuuuck
Dragon bros, do you drop FIlenne on turn 2? I feel like she always dies while making 0 impact that way.
>>532578376I don't fuck with my deck list when I go on lose streaks. Put those Bayles, Odins and possibly Olivias back in.
>>532578097>tfw your peehole will never be fisted by this
>>532578119Swordbabs were working overtime to downplay Gildaria.
>>532578496I play face so yes I always do for tempo. Pretty good choice vs abyss (Beryl) and sword (Nonja). Otherwise I'd rather Little Dragon Nanny or Firenewt
What the fuck was her problem?
>>532578274Just play your 5/5 into their evolved Zirconia/Allouette/AnneGrea bro. Whats the worst that could happen?
These retards actually designed a card that bad when they massively powercreeped nearly ever other crafts evo cards
I'm honestly surprised on how much Dirt Rune shits on Sword. If half my matches weren't against spellboost I would play this deck more.
She is going to be a leader in the next pack right?
>>532578274>>532578708Also now that I look at it, I swear Si Long was a 3PP 3/3 back then. Was she nerfed wtf
>>532578119Swordies were mad their boards were getting cleared but an artifact player making gamma after being hit by two 2/1s buffed by zirconia is already losing
>>532578496Unless you have a better option, then yes. They will either ignore her and go face, in which case you have a follower with bane that can attack or remove a threat, or they will crash into her and die and/or use removal.
Possible Balance changes
Self explanatory, I'll try to nerf cards such that they dont kill the viability of other archetypes of their class. Im open to criticism, these are just suggestions to discuss, for sword, rune and dragon
Sword ( Public enemy no1):
Gildaria now Summons 1 steelclad and 1 regular knight, making it unable to evo without rally like ive seen others suggest makes it a pretty dead card in aggro, and its swords only aoe AFAIK, so nerfing other sword cards would be better
Amelia gives 2pp instead of 3
Luminous Magus summons 2 steelclad knights instead of 3
Rose only makes the card it searches free until the turn ends, or it could half the cost permanently
Amalia only buffs officers instead of all sword cards
Yurius summons steelclad knights
Kagemitsu gets storm on respawn for aggro, ninja master summons a 2/2 ambush token evo for ambush sword
Rune ( Public enemy no2):
Followers only spellboost the hand once, not multiple times
Anne n Grea summon no longer has rush
Kuon cost now 8
Norman effects only trigger on evo, heal effect removed, leave healing to abyss and haven
D- Climb spellboosts hand once
Dragon ( Just topdeck Genesis bro):
Fennie reduces cost of spells in hand on fanfare
Dragonsign draws 2 when in overflow
Goldennote draws 3 instead of healing in overflow ( dragon has enough healing)
Let me know if I'm spouting nonsense since I'm not the most knowledgeable player. I'd appreciate constructive criticism
>>532578496If you have no other play then yes. She's there to soak up damage.
>>532578771Oh man, I already whaled for Filene...
>>532578775Yeah she was the fucking nuts
>>532578953H-how much does the super chest cost....
350 packs right .. ?
>>532578953>didnโt reroll for full animated fennieWhat are you doing
>>532578904dragonigger hands made this
>>532578496I only have 1 filne cuz lacking dust and I'll still drop her turn 2, although I'll prioritize putting down dragon caretaker or my cope firestorm down first unless it's against abyss in which case I need her down right away to fuck up incoming beryls.
>>532578740Juno's crest slows the game down a lot. Can't go offense, offense, offense, when the other guy gets a free ward every turn.
It starts as a whir. A shudder passing through the leaves. Then the trees start writhing, like wounded animals. Not long after, the swarm is upon you. It's in that moment that death emerges from the cocoon of concept, metamorphized into fact.
>>532578918nigger de sword
>>532579031Titania the QUEEN of Topaz...
>>532578904Rune needs way more nerfs than Sword and at the same time, Dragon needs more buffs than you listed.
>>532578953We knew Omens were coming and you still fell for the feet bait.
>>532578953Bro, you were just supposed to get the feet backgroundโฆ
>>532578740Juno is kind of more oppressive than anne grea desu
>>532578918Why is nobody playing Forest?
>>532578904I like the Fennie change and the Norman change. Makes Norman still strong without being a card that literally fixes all your issues and generates infinite advantage.
I think they shouldn't go too crazy with nerfs, definitely do some but don't go full kneecap. Instead do some nerfs and then a shit ton of buffs to the ones that really need it.
>triple lose streak
>somehow rise up to diamond
How does this shit work?
>>532579205cunny on the left ToT
>>532578986Cygames are racist against dragonbros!
>>532579013I got Feetlene in the 250 lucky chest. Yes I would have whaled harder if she wasn't in it.
>>532579205>>532579217NYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Filene blows me kisses whenever I evolve so I like her as the leader a lot
>>532579205finna to play highlander haven
D Climb is now 25 and will banish all copies of itself in hand and deck once played
>>532579312it checks win/losses every 20 matches, it's a really bad system
Norman not being at least earth rite 2 is a crime.
>>532579205Imagine if they give us the Haven, Rune, and Forest leadersโฆ
>>532579312I think some anon said if you're last 12 of 20 are wins, you promote to diamond, and shift accordingly.
>>532579236Because it takes a hundred times more skill than every other class combined. Forest cant just play shit on curve they need to be thinking at minimum 3 turns ahead. It's filled with points of failure where it is entirely your fault not just having bad draw and even then it's still only a good deck outside of one incredibly fucked matchup and not one of the top decks.
Go watch Dayan and you will see him making moves that look completely retarded and then he wins two turns later.
I tried forest for the first time in WB and went 0-7...
>>532579336>Filene blows me kisses whenever I evolveFilene is such a slut
>>532579205>Don't care about any of these except the cunny portal leaderNice. Once we get Vampy I'll be able to play cunny leaders in my 3 main classes. Is there any loli sword leader?
>>532579495did you guys like the anime
>>532579495you're a born forest sissy, keep going.
>>532579031>topazForestbros...
>>532579462This is some brosciene shit. I lost 9 out 20 last night and got in diamond. The other day I won more than 12/20 and didn't get in diamond.
Does anyone else warm up with a new deck with friends or the CPU to get used to the concept or is it just be being autistic
who else is still a leader ticket virgin?
I cant find a single showcase of erika or isabelle in google even if I try anyone got anything?
What were the good Highlander crafts jn SV1?
>>532578153Please help me
>8pp don't clear other 8pp threats + no evo effect + deal no face damage
How do we save Haven?
>>532579707I jump right into ranked
>>532579754give her storm if she kills more than 2 followers after being dropped
>>532579578I dropped it after like 2 episodes but I want to fuck Mimori
>>532579527Looks like my deck but I don't have 3 aria but if I did have 2nd id play 2nd I have 2 ligma instead. Cant beat haven but ligma should be good into everyone else
>enhance kuon combinging shikigami still gets the fucking spellboost last words
so a whole 1/3 progress toward the otk in the process of the otk, no wonder they literally always have it
>>532579820bro that would make haven s tier before and now
>>532579715Hold strong brother, our time comes with Vampy
>>532579754Not having none of its power tied to an evo effect is a good thing. The problem is no control deck is viable as long as Rune exists.
>>532579742Blood
Volteo was fun
>>532579527thanks, i'll try it out
>>532579935I've been debating putting her in but decided against it. I'm still trying to decide if I want 3 glade or 3 bayle. 3 bayle seem better since you go through fairies so fast but 3 glad is good for board heavy match ups though you burn through evos fast that way.
>>532579996This kind of unique shit isnt possible in Absess
>>532579754Imagine the drama if sword had a card that gave the board +2/+4 on fanfare
sv1bros, are expansions always this bad?
>even streamers are only playing rune or sword
Holy fucking shit Gravy damage is from right to left holy fuck not random what the nigger balls why doesnโt the fucking card say that shit
>>532579520>Filene blows me kisses whenever I evolveNo she is blowing the kisses to your opponent, you are getting ntr'd if you evolve her
>>532580265Always? no. A lot? yeah.
>>532580374Whaling for her right now.
>>532580374She locks eyes with ME
>>532577910>1pp do nothing>most of the time the damage is healed right afterWhy do swordbabs use this?
>>532579336No I meant how much did $he โฌost you...
>>532579715Chintzy got the cape!
xD
>>532580265Depends what you means. Later expansions will be larger than this one, this expansion was kind of a 1.5, it was the 2nd half of the first set. So the next expansion will have considerably more cards and variety.
But if you're asking "does every expansion have a deck or 2 that is super unbalanced and dominates the format" then yes, every expansion will have a "Rune" and "Sword" that completely shits on everything else and 95% of the ladder plays. But that's an issue with every TCG
Is puppets better than artifact?
Does abyssu get better when they getto
Cards that want u to be low lifu?
:<
>>532580691Depends on the bakyou.
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>>532580156I think she might be better than odin for forest but that may not be the case I don't have 2nd aria so I'm just running 1 odin this is more roach+crests+cynthia though
>>532579754This is the Ginsetsu of Haven, just needs some OP bronze/silver/golds to carry it in the earlier stages of the match.
>>532579886this guy knows
Iโm going to try the schizo list and see if it works
>>532580691About the same, puppets has a better early-mid game where it can rush down slow decks and even stall out aggro decks like Abyss, but if you don't win by turn 8 with Orchis you basically auto-lose. Artifact is the opposite, you have fucking nothing for turns 1-4 and will get skull fucked by aggro Abyss, but if you can survive until turn 6ish, you can out last and beat most decks.
>>532580595I think about 225 bucks roughly? I had rupies for about 100 packs and then I spent to buy another 150. Honestly I wasn't really paying attention, I just know its in the 200-300 dollar ballpark
>>532580821Odin has storm and banish, you can't beat that. Odin has also won me numerous games. That's the good thing though as there's variety so people make a bunch of different things work.
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>>532578904>reddit postHere's my fix
Anne Grea -> 3/3 Spellboost 2, ward summon 4/4
Norman -> Earth Rite cost = 2, remove the heal and change it to 2 damage to all enemies, dirt could use board clear and burn, ends absurd healing spam
Astaroth's Reckoning -> Deal 10 damage to all enemies. Ends the OTK but still strong card, rune forced to have 2 d-calls to OTK with Satan which makes it less likely or forces them to wait longer
Valse -> 4pp This card causes way to many problems early and allows sword to steamroll for free
Rose -> Only should discount until end of turn
Liu Feng -> 4/4 base stats recovers 3 health whenever she evolves
Dragon sign -> Draws in overflow instead of 10pp and recovers 1PP
Burnite -> Draw a card if the discarded card cost at least 5PP
Aether -> super evolve no longer gives aura but instead draws 2 cards and restores 4 health
>>532581023>225wow.... how much would it cost for all 3 of the things...?
?_?
>>532581132You do that to aether and she stops even countering forest
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What do we think? Red = very favored, yellow = slightly favored, green = neutral, etc
i should just play rune but after 300 games in it i feel like a block and can't make myself too
Doesn't help i find dirt state to still be poor and without a solid plan beside "hope board stick and why i am not just running my core in spellboost anyways?"
My stats took an huge tank for expetimenting with abyss and dragon
>>532581194hey that's better than 150 vials
>>532580996How does this shit ever beat any aggro, or sword that curves out for that matter? You'll be at 10 life even against shit like puppets by turn 4.
>>532581181Easily over 1k if you had to hit the pity 3 times. I don't mind whaling, but even for me its a bit much to spend 1k to also get a park avatar and homescreen lol
>>532580996>Plays schizo no 1 or 2 drop list for charon to revive puppets or foxes exclusively>Only plays 2 charon ???
havent logged in two days I think it's over
>>532578904>another rune card that does nothing without evo>also a legendTHANKS BRO JUST SHOOT ME IN THE HEAD WHILE YOU'RE AT IT WHY DON'T YOU
>>532581132A fix is to remove the +2/+2 they get from evos for anne grea.
The rest of the suggestions are retarded.
Dragon sign should be 2pp.
>>532581487Anne and Greas stats arent the issue
>>532581272Dirt and boost are the same fucking deck at this point
>7k rupees
Am I gonna make it for next expansion?
they are not gonna nerf a single card and if they do it's bronzies nd silvers, no free vial because shadboa very generous
Now that I think about it, is draconic strike just too fucking greedy? like yeah it's 'kinda' a 4 cost card but you're still paying 6 cost on the turn and 3 AOE just really isn't cutting it pic rel
>>532581272>spellboost beating dirti mean i'm sure it happens but bpd-chan hard counters spellboost and puts it on a timer. spellboost has to win on turn 10. beyond that, forest is the right counter meta pick right now for sure. but if it gets popular, the hags will rise again.
>>532581272Aggro Abyss is very favoured against the hybrid rune deck? Hmm
>>532581272I can't read this i am dumb
>>532581272Can't read it.
Is the vertical the class POV? Like row 1 column 2 is "roach against sword".
Row 2 column 1 "sword against roach".
Also what is the triangle and x? Slightly disfavored and fucked?
If it reads like this then I disagree with a lot of it actually.
Since almost every match now last like 15+ turns, why don't forest play rose queen
>>532581272I don't know how to read this. Top to Bottom is the deck, then Left to Right is their matchup favor?
>>532581384Generally you would run removals such as Dark Side to deal with early aggression. That deck is definitely asking to be rawed by aggro
>>532581608that's only 14 packs bro...
>>532581676They have every card built up to rotation in advance no? Or does kmr not plan ahead. If by then the cards now arent problem cards why would you nerf anything
>>532581608yes. rupies galore will skyrocket you to 20k+
Do you miss set 1's meta?
>>532581272>Ramp>Favored in any match up at all
Just lost to a runetard because I forgot that Nonja is an officer so I could have Luminous + Nonja to kill the Kuon Shikigami. Don't queue when you're tilted bros, you make stupid mistakes...
>tried Dragon since new set
>10% winrate
>went from Sapphire back to Emerald
>Had enough of it, try a cheap aggro Abyss
>80% winrate, back to Ruby already
what the fuck
>>532581603Dirt usually doesn't pack Flame Destroyer so their board is less explosive
>>532581861No. I hate portal.
>>532581812you mean 8k. we know from the last rupies galore how bad the rewards actually are.
>>532581760h-how are you lasting 15 turns against sword?
>>532581702I think its a 3x for lamp the idea is you lamped once and by 6pp need an aoe to clear board because you spent pp doing nothing. Only fails when they play things with more than 3hp early. Later with ho-chan active the spell can even gain pp effectively
>>532581941boost dropped flame destroyer
>>532581812I pray I win the lottery as well anon.
>>532581861Yes quite a bit. Someone said if sword is dominant it's never fun and I've come to agree with it.
>>532581861No this one has more fun to use
>>532581861No, I prefer set 2 meta honestly
>>532581998That's dumb then. It's a headache to deal with turn 5 double destroyer
>>532581861NO THE GAME FUCKS NOW SHUT UP NIGGER
>>532581760Her condition is impossible since you need to toss your 1- cards to deal with enemy boards
>lose
>lose
>lose
>lose
>win
>win
>win
>win
I've never been under the illusion that I'm good at this game. I'm only in top group because of luck.
>>532582051post craft graph
>>532580367They used to explain it to you in SV1. It should just be keyworded for simplicity.
>>532581272>artifact has slight advantage versus RoachHahaha, nope
>fight pure dirt
>actually he still has Satan Dclimb
Guess I should have played around it and dealt 40 damage in 9 turns
>>532581702Dragonic strike should be like 15 damage spread on the field like glade
>>532582209Are you sure? You might feel humbled.
>on a win streak but my first chest won't even appear
It should just be 5 fucking wins. There shouldn't be any of this bullshit RNG.
>>532580367The good thing about Shadoba is that the split damage is usually not random unlike Hurtstone
Who wins in a fight, 8pp do nothing vtuber considered one of the worst leggos out there.
Or a whole board of OP swordcards?
>>532581975but like, ramp isn't even capable of holding board at that point anyways, shouldn't they just run calamity breath instead? a Fucking Indomitable fighter on 4 can survive the damn draconic breath, or are they just running both or something?
>>532582378Edelweiss is actually random though right?
>>532581861its fun rn because a lot of people on ladder are still playing kinda bad decks they enjoy but as they fall off i expect things to get a bit tiresome since the usual suspects from last season are still good (minus artifact i guess)
>>532582446Artifact isn't good, nigga?
>>532582442Like I said, "usually". It's a good thing they cannot target with Edelweiss or she would be broken
>>532581861No roach automatically makes it better. I do miss when sword was honest though.
>>532582497>roachbitchYeah I'm sure you do prefer it after all the ward havens went away.
>>532582004>Someone said if sword is dominant it's never funThis honestly sounds like someone specifically just don't like sword meta. Whenever there's a meta with a hugely superior deck or two in it, most people will not have fun if they don't like how the best deck plays. It's got nothing to do with a class specifically.
I like sword personally but I hate a lot of metas where it's really good because the meta decks at the time weren't fun to pilot or play against.
>>532581757Horizontal. Roach is favored against Sword, Spellboost, Midrange Abyss, and Puppet. Triangle is unfavored, X is give up.
>>532582410I think we stopped calling vtuber bad a while ago 5 unavoidable unremovable that can clear 3 on demand is good when rune wants to deal a little face dage in case they didnt hit the nuts for a huge kuon or astaroth climb and if you don't need her you can just shift her out
>>532582410I finally figured out how they can make Mordecai.
He doesn't dies every time he attacks and comes back with SEVO to attack again.
Can only go into followers on summon, but either has storm with 20 shadows or he just keeps respawning no matter what.
>>532581702It's anti-Sword tech, all their knights and unevolved enhanced Valse just die to it.
Also its value goes up after you played Ho-chan, or if you only played 1 ramp early game so you can get Ho-chan online 1 turn earlier.
You can also use it as poor man Twilight by reducing Filene cost to 0, then play the 3PP spell.
>>532581710Dirt doesn't have any actual face damage, so when the egirl drops Spellboost will be at 20 after healing any early damage and she will have to hit face 3-4 times to kill. Dirt inevitably dies to any sort of DClimb OTK.
>>532582581In my opinion, using ward followers is cheating
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I'm kinda convinced the game puts you against bots disguised as players in Ruby and below.
>>532582440I think most of them use breath for 3 cost after finnie or not running any of them
>>532582623>It's anti-Sword techoh, nevermind that's all you had to say, it makes sense now.
In my opinion, there are far too many Shadoba girls I want to have violent bed breaking sex with.
>>532582440It just runs burnite instead of calamity most sword boards by that point do happen to be pretty low hp but youre still taking zirconia to face at that point but you would be with calamity too
>>532581272red = very favored
yellow = slightly favored
green = 50/50, equal
blue = slightly unfavored
black = very unfavored
seems accurate tbdesu
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>>532580367>>532582216>It should just be keyworded for simplicity.It literally fucking is, jesus christ, how are we still having this conversation
>>532582723please stop being mean to tanaka
>>532582613It's 5 am and I haven't gone to sleep yet...
Obviously I mean he dies every attack and then comes back with SEVO for another attack and if you get 20 shadows on respawn you get storm maybe.
That way you can set him up at like 5 followers on board with 15 shadows and then storm face with the last attack.
>Getting to 200/500 abyss ranked wins gives me a flair with the shitty demon on it
I wish I could change it out for Luna or Cerb
Seriously what the FUCK can you do against Ward Haven?
I managed to get them to 5 fucking HP by turn 4.
But then
SALEFAAAA
and the next turn the bullshit infinite ward shit started
>>532582695>>532578097How do I get a fairy gf
>>532582723Does this means all of us in ruby and below are bots....?
>>532582520well, i never see anyone playing it on ladder so i assume so. dont have the cards to play it and find out for myself and dont really want to craft them either.
>>532582538Sword had Erika which made Roach look like a chump
>>532582216whats accelerate
>>532582613>>532582814Going by current pattern, you need to spend Sevo to bring him back at the start of the turn. Enjoy Shadoba
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>>532582802I don't know where you are reading that from. I have the card up in-game right now and you can't get any explanation by clicking on it unlike with other keywords.
>>532582584It's because when the more complex decks are the best crafts in the meta, then a lot of average players can't use the best deck to the fullest due to misplays. But when the best deck in the meta is just a brainless pile of overtuned bullshit that you throw down on curve, then the entire fucking meta is obnoxious as everyone other than the pet craft gets shat on.
>hard match up
>have lethal
>emote before final hit
>cackle irl
what is wrong with me
>>532583063But then he returns as a ward ignoring 20/20 storm.
>>532581272How is SB Rune heavily unfavoured vs Aggro Abyss? When they drop A&G on T4/T5 they wipe my entire board and leave up a ward follower as well to rub salt in the wound. Game's basically over when they play her cause they got a lot of healing to stabilise too
>>532582723if that's true then how did I fall down to Emerald...
>>532583050Think Enhance but you use the card like you would use a Spell
>>532583050You can play the follower as a spell for the accelerate cost with the given accelerate effect.
>>532581861Portal didn't change, people just completed their decks and surpassed the power level of token artifacts
>>532582890this nigga actually lost to storm haven holy fucking lmao
Me the most honest player ever
>>532583113Don't wanna boot it up but 112 rune 37 sword 54~ dragon and 5-10 in abyss and portal.
>>532583171Sometimes you deal so much damage early that A&G is not enough specially with burn cards that just ignore their wards
>>532583169That cannot attach the leader if there is one single follower on board
>>532583171They don't have Norman, A&G and Kuon or even sagelight isn't the issue. Kuon image = pure spellboost, Lilanthim image = dirt/hybrid.
>>532583341>SometimesYeah that happens...sometimes. Saying its a heavily unfavoured matchup against aggro abyss sounds pretty bullshit
>>532582723You never actually face a real player, you always face bots. Every person who plays this game has only faced bots
I try looking at list on the twitter aggregate for abyss and they all look so wildly different....
>>532583153>emote before final hit>EVER having the time for that95% of JP players just fucking QUIT before the final hit
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>get ramp
>didn't get fennie
>get fennie
>didn't get ramp
>get both ramp and fennie
>didn't get Neptune
>>532583485>die before you can do anything
>>532583448yeah theres not really a consensus on abyss. you'll have to hash it out on the battlefield anon
>>532583448Would Dirt still benefit with Tanoshii despite minimal spells to spellboost?
>get the exact card I need to win
>the game after I needed it
>>532583485Stay strong bwo the pachinkoGODS will smile on you eventually
>>532583434I assumed the Kuon image is the SB Rune deck with some dirt cards like Norman, and the Lilanthim image is pure dirt rune. I have not seen pure SB rune for a long time in Master Sapphire/Diamond
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Why is this the only good doujin shadowverse ever released
>>532583105The thing is that most of the time, the best decks in a meta aren't the more complex one. Sword, dragon, blood, shadow, haven meta decks are pretty much always easy to pilot and get good results at. Only portal, rune, forest had higher rate of harder to pilot meta decks, but even then most of them were still easy to get good with if you tried.
>>532583171Whatโs going on in this image?
>>532583153I don't cackle, but I emote sorry when my Satan draws me Astaroth versus opposing runefag
Does ginsetsu kills aura?
>>532582723I am sure it does. Of course one would never know for sure.
>>532583674Isn't that a Grub doujin, not an SV doujin?
anyone wanna be my friend and duel with me so i can finish my bingo
>>532583068It's on the website, but not in the game, which yeah, it's annoying if you're new. I didn't know about it either until someone posted the link for me:
https://shadowverse-wb.com/en/system/cardbattle/tips/
>>532583591feels like the game is mocking you doesn't it
>>532583153I don't emote but I do evil laugh irl. Especially when I top deck lethal.
>>532578153Whatever Rikka's running
https://www.youtube.com/@rikka1646/streams
Rune shouldn't have this much fucking healing.
>>532583780Yes since it's random.
>>532583780Anything that can be destroyed will be destroyed
>>532583706I told Vampy that hags are cuter
Norman should only be allowed to use each of his fanfare effects once per turn.
>>532583308Just need to win 200~ games with forest and I'll replicate my sv1 win %age.
>>532578775She was buffed, actually.
She was originally 4 cost but nobody played her
>>532583448I will just netdeck some midrange going 4-0 this lobby tournament imho
2 hours of playing just to get to my advanced tier chest to get 200 rupies
>>532583929>>532583920i lost a game becuase i thinked that she didnt kill aura, thanks anons
i am still not sure list of skills that kill portal's orange aura and what doesn't
>>532584241Any kind of numerical damage kills them
>>532584241banish or damage
>>532583153I only bm emote against Runefaggots
>get more tilted losing lobby matches than I do ranked
>>532584241Any sort of damage, health reduction (like twilight dragon), or banish deals with it.
They should make a card that banishes the entire field and resummons everything
Nothing personal. Blame fate for making you go first bros.
>>532581272roach is favored against everything except ward haven
Which class has the most complex deck building?
>>532581272Face dragon isn't even on the fucking chart wtf
I got fucking tricked by Filene feet to play it
Its over. Its SO fucking over.
Now let's see if I can get a ticket
>>532584980fucking explode you piece of shit
>>532584931Face Dragon's main source of food(Rune) completely shits on Face Dragon now. That deck is dead.
>>532584980Get Titania'd get Titania'd!
>>532583443Most of the time as spellboost I cannot keep up with the board, i drop AG turn 5 u answer with agravy. well if you don't have agravy thats skill issue
>>532584980I hope you donโt.
Animated my Mays, posting for Roach sisters to evaluate if they'd also like to do the same.
>win
>no chest
>win
>no chest
>win
>no chest
>win
>no chest
>win
>no chest
>win
>no chest
>>532585249guh
why must she show her pit
its making me so
so
SO
>>532584980die die die die die
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you either ding with the best or dong with the rest
>>532582520Yes? By literally every fucking measure it's bad. Have you seen the usage rate, and tourney win rate? It has bad match ups against the best and most used 2 decks.
>>532585559Iโll let it slide since itโs not Feetlene. Congrats.
>>532585559Time to put on the dress haven sissy
>>532585559eh I like Esperanza better.
>>532585249she's such a sexy little xx-year old
>>532585559explode twice!
>>532585531>not even my evolved form
>motherfucker played THREE ODINS IN A ROW
what the FUCK can you even do????
Defend this without sounding like a runenigger
>>532585559worst leader out of the bunch desu
>>532585802Bro your aura??
Still working on those steam achievements, it's gonna get a lot harder from here since I don't have much of the required cards for haven, abyss or rune
>>532585802Have more than one guy on the field
>>532585845Can Dirt be its own craft so we don't get all of this misdirected hate?
>>532581272You can tell a swordbab downplayer made this
>Zwei keeps shutting out lethal because of puppet wards
Redeemed. Iโll never call you a shit card again
>>532582224It is, if played perfectly by a guy that knows both decks inside out, and plays a set out of 10/ On ladder? Roach wins virtually 9 out of 10 games.
>>532585796She can even go further beyond!
>Puppet to diamond
>switch to artifact
>go back to ruby
Man
>>532581272>roach has a good match up against the top 3 decksBullshit, why isn't everyone playing it then?
>>532585845rune doesnt have ramp, strong offense (all you have is kuon sevo and the horseshit satan dclimb but thats turn 10), gy effects, amulets, exodia wincon (literally 2 cards), is not combo centric as all your cards fuel your other cards brainlessly vs forest needing to do things like hold 1pps to comjo easier, and only swarms the board with followers on 1 card vs sword's 18
>>532583674awfully puffy puss
>>532586139looking good saar
>>532579715350 packs of Legends Rise and all I have to show for it is this playset of full art Kuons
>haven't seen aria in 4 games
>4 game loss streak
>chest in everyone
>>532581272>aggro abyss favored against af portal no way, hell I'd argue it's better against puppets than af because puppets cant answer beryl/mummy turn 2 as easily and its heal is limited to one time on sylvia vs af being able to make infinite wards and heals (both with carnelia evo)
>>532585249>the ear flapsAaaaa
Leaders worth actually saving for
Forest - Ladica, Magachiyo, Liza
Sword - Nahtnaught, Zirconia, Octrice
Dragon - Galmieux, Forte, Lumiere
Rune - Sephie
Haven - Holy Saber, Dark Jeanne
Portal - Lishenna, Ralmia, Eunie
Abyss - Vampy, Medusa, Mono
If dirt was its own class (only spellboost cards it is allowed to have is A&G) it would still be better than over half the classes in game.
is there a worse feeling than knowing exactly what they're going to do to get lethal for multiple turns and having nothing to stop it
>>532586504> NahtnaughtSell me on her. Swordies go wild over her but I wasnโt around for her era
>>532586680I lost games like that because all 3 copies of Orchis in puppet were bottom 10.
>>532586680>know what the enemies plan is>don't mulligan or save cards for itSounds like a skill issue
>>532586718She's only popular because of seiyuu.
>>532586718evil fucking bitch (its a compliment)
>>532586504>Rune-SephieExquisite taste.
>>532586790>seiyuuHow autistic do you have to be to pay attention to that shit? niggas really be knowing every voice actor for anime shit then wonder why they got no girl or friends lmao
Meta so dogshit to play i just can't have fun this set
>>532586504What about neutral leaders?
>>532586718>sell me on herEvil woman.
>>532586585I've been playing pure dirt (0 spellboost cards) and this deck is basically glorified aggro sword. I dominate the board by playing on curve for the first few turns and pray for opportunities to hit face. There is absolute 0 late game. If my opponent is still near full hp on turn 7, I just concede. I'm just playing it to grind out the chests quickly since I don't want to go to turn 10+ every single game with my spellboost deck.
>forest mirror
>2 fairies on my side
>bro drops a glade
>no way he evolves it for 2 fairies right
>he really evolves glade to clear 2 fairies
>loses the game not long after
was it worth it?
>>532585845it's magic, i ain't gotta explain shit
>>532585845cry bitch
spellboost: 1 more
I only know dub Nahtnaught and she triggers my southern milf fetish
>>532586915??? a lot of leaders in sv1 won by landslide because of their voice actors. I'm not the one voting for shitty characters like Dionne or Barbaros. It's the nip that did.
>>532586747yes nigger I'll save my card I never drew for turn 15 when I saw what their plan was turn 12. no one likes you and you're going to die alone
>>532587213>no one likes you and you're going to die alonedamn nigga tell me something I haven't know for 20 years lmao
>>532586790>Ai KayanoUh oh, chinkbros arenโt gonna like this.
>>532581272real ward downplayer made this
the cross only truly belongs against spellboost and cunt abyss
playing aggroabyss is so stressful, every card does damage to me and i'm always at low hp i can't take it anymore
>dont get salefa
>lose
h-haven
>>532587497Play face dragon and discard your winrate instead
sword deck either win or lose
50/50
so its honest
>>532587545you only need salefa against sword and aggro abyss
the 5pp banish guy can handle the rest
>>532587497Whenever your bats can swing face or at something that must be swung at, consider evoing them.
>>532587165>Barbaros>shitI'll have you walk on the plank for that, landlubber.
>>532587165you are a homosexual
>trial to go from C to B
Why...
Honesty always wins in the end
>>532588104>Fail trial>Re-do it immediatelyIt literally doesn't matter and its only there cause there was one that meant something in SV1, and Japs just can't let go of meaningless traditions
>>532588159>14hpWhoa that freak nearly killed you bro
Good thing us RuneGODS are more skilled
How long before rune gets a way to remove crests?
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man suffering from pain colorized
>playing another balto doesn't refresh the countdown
???
>>532587032You're supposed to pivot to Lilanthem strategies if the game is going to go late
>>532588368I hope youre not running 3 of him
>dying thread
>dead as fuck meta
Will KMR make the card balance team commit seppuku after what they've done, or was it him that's intentionally sabotaging and killing shadoba 2?
>>532588229I just thought it didn't start until B to A, seems pointless so early.
>>532579742Portal had lots of value cards, so you could toss all of the good cards into a deck and call it a day.
>>532579996Forest received one (1) 20 names related card but it never went anywhere (Banesbow Elf).
What were they thinking?
>>532581272sauce me up onegai
>>532588483I can see them overlooking dirt rune but I don't know how they possibly missed sword piles
I think this game is making me gay, all I can think about is slamming my cock againt Nio and Kuon's prostates.
>>532588368Baby's first crest?
>>532588376I only have one of her so I don't always have her when the game goes late. She has won me several games though because some crafts like rune can't deal with her without blowing a ton of cards.
>>532586226the aggro abyss matchup is legitimately unplayable and that's a much more popular deck than mid abyss. also imo sword should be even at best because odin fucks forest so hard in that matchup.
>>532588715Kuon is a beautiful lady, thoughever
>>532588483The game was meant for Tanaka to play sword or rune and have fast easy games and to always win against gajin. The game is working as intended and rune will only get more powerful.
Honesty always wins in the end.
>>532588894>chest avaliable
>aggro is favored against rune
Neck every nigger who suggests this
>>532588894A full house, nice
>>532588814It feels bad to run more than one but she's very necessary if the deck has to play late. I'm running her at 2 and I've thought about going up to 3 just to make her easier to find but it seems like a mistake because she has a lot of dead match ups
>>532588943it's only favored against spellboost
>>532588902Nio's got a fat ass
>>532588894>Control abyss memeJust play aggro or midrange retard.
>>532589018There is no spellboost, it's all hybrid
>>532581272oh this is four days old. a lot of these have changed (in favor of rune and sword)
>>532588894>gambled on Olivia instead of playing zombmanfault
>>532588894unironically makes me want to play the deck but I kinda need both of my kidneys
>>532589018What spellboost? Maybe they might exist in topaz where casuals don't realise the deck list has changed
>>532589136he drew zombieman off olivia bro
>>532588361This is how I feel everytime it happens
>>532588943I've still managed to kill some of them, but god damn.
>even streamers are gettign burned out already
When forest starts getting furries will it be a new deck type?
>>532589018Nothing is favored against Rune. They brick or they win.
There was no reason to buff sword this much, they were already doing fine last set
>>532589018>craft spellshit deck>put 3 dirt card (that also spellbost)it's le honest dirt deck bro xdd
>>532588361You know what really annoys me about playing against spellboost is that you basically have to play to the end every time. Like I know when my deck has lost against sword and no combination of top decks will let me win at some point.
With spellboost like, I see the dshift satan and I still have to wait for them to finish the rest of their turn because going through their cheated cards because the chance is there that they just drew a hand ful of cocytus servants and I'll top deck an Odin for game. And then when it doesn't happen and they do in fact kill me all that time is wasted.
>>532578904>Yurius summons steelclad knightsMade me lose my shit, kek
>no odin
>no wilbert
>no rune legos
>no zwei
>5
>5
>5
genuinely what are the fucking chances
>>532586056How is that slight advantage for Artifact then?
>>532589527They're also just fine this set. Not too strong, not too weak
>>532589553>the chance is there that they just drew a hand ful of cocytusHow often has that happened tho?
>>532585845>exodia wincon
>>532589420>sword and rune meta first expansion>print overtuned card for sword and rune in 2nd expansionwaow another sword and rune meta how could this happen bros why are all the players leaving
Man I love aggro sword. Free farming runiggers and portalkeks all day.
>>532589420I still find it funny that Pocket has better meta shift than this self-proclaimed Esport card game. Every week meta feels different from the last one
>>532589712Maybe next xpac will be better and they'll bring out some balance changes....who are we kidding though more shit for rune and sword. Fuck everyone else lmao but hey we got that lobby nobody asked for or uses anymore
>>532589793>Origin BalderWaow.........................................
>>532589693More often than you'd think, they can get the cards in their hand back too when they Dclimb so it's not like they get an entire hand full of Satan cards if they had a decent sized hand to begin with. Likewise, they can still top deck their own cards instead of Satan cards since they get shuffled into the deck if they're not drawn.
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>#1 mrp player has a 60%+ winstreak with aggro abyss
>I can't even maintain 50%
feels like shit
>>532589823>PocketTCG Live is better than pocket
>>532589853Why don't my haven opponents ever "waow"?
>few to Diamond
>don't see Haven anymore
Thank fuck.
>portal has to spend all game play suboptimal garbage stats to make a 10/10 storm follower
>rune gets it for free on 10 for nothing, while also playing the best 5 drop and the best 7 drop in the game to enable it to become 20/20 instead
>>532589865What site is this?
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>>532589693Never literally but the odds of a true Satan OTK are only about 1/3. Sometimes they'll draw the storm or burn but it won't be enough to kill, or their hand is filled with non-apocalypse cards they shuffled back in and they go through those.
The point is though that no matter how well dshift seems to open, I never know what the true game state is because of the inherent dishonesty of the spellboost mechanic, so I always have to play out the game not knowing if they actually nut drew and it was unwinnable for turn 1 no matter what I have, or if they opened up with a bunch of A&G>A&G>Kuon>Kuon but I'm still in the game because their dshifts are in the bottom 10 cards. And usually they ARE winning, but they're losing just often enough that I have no choice but to play it out if I don't want to tank games for no reason.
>>532589865Try paying attention to his decisions and mulligans.
>>532589926I'm trying but I'm getting worse over time, not better
>>532589990https://swordishonest.github.io/tracker/
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>missed roach lethal by 1
get rekt mr former champion person
>>532589931Havensissies are too demoralized from ward being shit
>>532589793I don't have time. They won't fucking appear.
>>532589865Aggro Blood and by extension Aggro Abyss has never actually been an easy deck so I wouldn't feel too bad. A lot of people just think "aggro easy" and "control hard" when it's totally deck dependent. Only Face Dragon is truly, consistently brain dead and that's by design.
>>532590058It's by design. Notice how they penalize early conceding now? They don't want you depriving Japanese pachinko addicts from their spellboost highrolls pay off. It's almost like the entirety of shadoba 2 was designed with rune in mind.
What do you use this for?
>>532590181They were all playing storm today and I could not beat a single one
>>532589917TCG Live gets none of the meme
>>532590160>at 20 health>miss leathal by 1>know the opponent doesn;t have an answer and I win next turn>concede out of shame anywayBetter to die with honor than live as a fool
>>532589865I was sure he's not in Diamond as well
>>532590239>Only Face Dragon is truly, consistently brain dead and that's by design.Two of my friends copied my face dragon deck and they're hardstuck in topaz/ruby with the deck. Either they're pathetically stupid or there's still nuance to it. I think both, though I'm not going to pretend face dragon isn't one of the easiest decks. These guys made it to diamond with Sword and Portal in set 1 lol
>>532590338He was and fell back to Diamond. Variance.
>watch streamers play
>they barely know what they're doing
>diamond
>know my deck and matchups well
>can barely get to ruby
holy fuck Yurius is a brick since every single deck runs 2-3 Odin
>>532588943Fuck this fucking faggot bullshit deck, I killed three AnnGrea, I killed two Kuons, I killed norman, I got them out of evo points and they still win even if they don't find satan because William is still a 6/6 that clears your board.
I had never seen such preferential threatment for an archetype ever. This is fucking disgusting and legit makes me want to quit the game even though I love every single other aspect of it.
>>532590494You are where you are because you cannot maintain a good winrate. Maybe git gud?
>>532589865I feel like you should be winning more when you go first as an aggro deck, not second. 10% is a massive difference. You're probably doing the mulligan wrong.
>>532590494>he didnt pay for the luckboost pack
>>532590374I think the set 2 meta is just inherently way harder than the set 1 meta no matter what you're on and regardless of deck strength. Playing to your match ups is so fucking important in a meta game filled with strong counters running amuck everywhere, no matter what I play there are so many specific checks I need to keep in mind in this meta game even on lower tier decks like Storm Haven always having to sequence checks that kill through Aether board.
This meta started out better than set 1 and I've had more kino matches on this one than the previous season but by now the bulk of it is pretty ass and I don't really want to play anymore.
>>532590598You really gotta have a "oh well what can you do, go next" attitude especially for Rune
There's really just nothing you can do a lot of the time
>>532587047if he was on turn 5 it's physically possible you could have done deepwood cynthia twinkletoes with 6 pp and turned 2 fairies on board into 6 damage
>>532590494streamers get matched vs ai opponents to boost their win rate
>>5325903033 of these turn into a seer's gem. A single gem can give an emblem rainbow effect and 3 gems can animate a sleeve.
>no chest, win
>chest, lose
why
>>532591174>3 gems can animate a sleeve.the fuck where do you do this
>>532590765you are 1pp ahead of your opponent if you coin a t1-5
you are 2pp ahead of your opponent if you coin t7
you get first evo which goes face
you can first sevo which goes face
if the game ends after you cash in on all of those then the going first advantage doesnt matter
>>532591246in the shop supplies
How far could I realistically climb as tempo forest? I'm currently topaz but fear I may hit a roadblock at some point. I really love the deck but maybe I should swap to sword or something with more staying power?
you are the only sleeve that i care about
*plap plap plap*
>>532591327>topazbrother the world is your oyster
>a chest is avaible
>8 loses in row
>YOU HAVE BEEN DEMOTED TO EMERALD
How many thousands of people drop the game each rerun of this cancer event?
>>532585845>only 2 of my 50 portal wins are from gundam >one was a game i bent over an abysskek and only used gundam for style points and had like 4 ways to kill himgod i fucking wish the exodia was an actual wincon to work towards instead of just spamming face lasers and board wipes to set up for orchis
or spamming heal bots to fuck over aggrokeks
Why do people put such emphasis on groups? I'm diamond but I'm in c, surely it doesn't mean that much.
>>532591625ANIMATE THE FILENE FEET
>>532591483We love Eudie here
how much cum would you want to pump into nios holes?
It's well past the time for us to just accept that rune is going to have a tier 1 deck for the entirety of sv2 and also sv3 whenever that happens.
>>532591729i like how theres literally no wincon vs rune
beta spam gets healed away
boardclear and they satan you
dont boardclear and they just kill you with 7 mana 15/15 rush ward storm
>>532591671I'm trying to at least get to sapphire. I know there's some tempo forest in diamond but can I actually make it there with the deck? I've made it to ruby a few times but always fall out....definitely not going on tilt fueled 13 game loss streaks but that's beside the point.
Eudie's just fucking resonance support in a game with no resonance! Imagine her crest letting you manipulate resonance every turn it's active.
STOP FUKING HEALING ALREADY
>>532592257I really feel like Norman shouldn't be allowed to pick the same fanfare effect twice.
swordbab try to read challenge (impossible)
>>532591840I'm saving everything until my wife gets sleeve.
>>532591798Doesn't mean shit if you're down in C rank with new players, but its pretty important for Master rank where you can have absolute meme tier decks in Emerald and the sweatiest faggots in Diamond
Danchou please kick the dead members
>>532592592Right, sure, but I highly doubt the stray anon talking about groups is in Master is my point.
>Roll Orchis ages ago but don't really play Portal, just have her set as the leader for Puppet and Thirteen as the Artifact leader
>Use Puppets in a throwaway game to help a friend with their park daily
Shit nigga Orchis has a really pretty evo animation, I might have to tap in.
>played 12 games today
>won 7 of them
>still tilted
>decide to try out shadowverse because it looks tanoshii and the game's new
>Only a week behind everyone else
>Starting pulls give me 3 A&G, 3 Kuon, 2 D Climb
>Play Rune obv
>Everyone hates rune
>Save up resources to change crafts at the start of the new set so I can stop being hated
>Decide on artifact portal
>Everyone hates it on the set release
>Spend the rest of my resources to change crafts yet again, choose Sword this time because it's what everyone else in the thread plays
>More hate than ever before, where did all the fellow Sword players go?
Can you guys stop hating me for 1 second I'm just trying to have fun
>>532592776I hate you because you post like a faggot
>>532590912It's specially unfair that they punish you for quitting because they know nobody would play a single turn against Runetards if they didn't.
>>532592776No because you aren't in the /mjg/ guild.
>>532592776>caring about what ever people thinkPlay what ever you like anon, when a deck clicks you'll know it. I played mostly storm haven last expac and I play mostly fairy forest this go around. I may not win much but I enjoy the game.....mostly.
>>532592776Just do what you've gotta do anon. I don't hate you, I hate the craft. There is a difference.
>>532592776Luv me nyaggers
>>532592882I mean the lowest you can go is emerald right? Fuck it.
>>532592776Malleable little bitch
Neptune has dragon in her card but why does she summon fish that make obnoxious sound
There's literally no skill involved in mirror match. The person who draws better win.
>Rune is top dog for yet another game
We need Vampy to save us with giga aggro
>>532593091That also applied to no-mirror match
>>532593091aggro abyss mirror match is fun as fuck with the self damage and healing
Any tips for someone AA0 hardstuck between topaz and emerald?
My decks are
>full spellboost dirt set
>full abyss midrange and control
>ramp dragon
>storm haven
No matter what i do i can't even reach ruby stable anymore for shit and i am utterly feeling defeated by the game i can't even finish treasure boxes
>>532579473link da stream
>>532590765With aggro abyss specifically, 2nd is strong because it lets you cheat out Beryl turn 1, which only 2 crafts have a clean, 1-card answer to (one of which has to do 2 damage to themselves to do it). Turn 2 Beryl can get answered by pretty much every craft on 3pp or with their cheated out 2pp follower + something else
>>532593091It's deck dependent. Some decks have a ton of outplay options for each other, tons are absolute dogshit that come down entirely to draws, if even that much. Artifact mirror is absolute dogshit where your draws barely even matter.
>>532593350Thats what demoted today to emerald after losing 7 losestreak
>>532593206If you cannot get diamond on dirtboost you should be lobotomized.
Rune shouldn't have this much god damned fucking healing.
>>532592083Petcraft, pls understand you only exist to give them wins.
>>532578740>play dirt>use Kuon and A&GYou are not playing dirt. Might as well call it Tempo Rune cause that's what those two cards do.
>>532593206delete dragon and haven decks
>b-but muh fundiamond is anti-fun
>>532593206If you don't understand the fundamentals of card games then you'll never be in Diamond even with the most braindead of decks. There's tons of resources out there that explains win conditions, tempo vs value, the whole concept of playing to win vs playing to not lose, etc.
Don't auto pilot, every turn is important to think upon to avoid micro errors. Shit like evolving the wrong follower against a likely Aragavy play wiping you vs leaving a follower up that he needs to evolve and trade into. Think about your opponent's most likely next play and then make your board state as difficult as possible for them to deal with.
Read this as well, plenty of other articles out there
https://articles.starcitygames.com/articles/whos-the-beatdown/
>>532593465Brother you're doing something wrong or it could be an abysmal day for you.
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>he wants to save evo for albert
Oh nonono does he know?
>>532593206Play only rune
Rune
Rune
Rune
Nothing else
Spam games with rune
It's literally statistically impossible especially below master to not make it to sapphire if you just play rune
Netdeck parachan list and spam games with Rune and don't touch any other deck
>>532593091>There's literally no skill involved in this game. The person who draws better wins.FTFY
>>532586504>abyss is just blood girlsKek shadowcucks
The amount of semen I have lost to her is a bit concerning
>>532593707You wouldn't...
>>532593686>the whole concept of playing to win vs playing to not lose>to avoid micro errorsHow do you even learn about stuff like this though? I don't want to read a whole ass thesis but a mistake on T2 could lead to you losing on T10 but how would you even know that?
>>532593206>i have spellboost deck>stuck in emeraldNice bait
>>532592776Play Dragon. This is an ESL Dragonbab general.
>>532589865>aggro abyssdeck?
>>532594035Watch your replays. Playing to not lose is an obvious beginner mistake that you often catch on the turn after you missed lethal for being too afraid of the opponent's next turn when there shouldn't have been a next turn.
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>>532594161just the bog standard aggro with 2 apollo list
>Swordbab mirror
>go first
>lose
way she goes
>>532593465just accept you're shit bro and that you'll never climb. I've floated between emerald and ruby the past two expansions. I tried multiple decks, you name it. I started watching streamers too and I realized I'm just shit and it is what it is. Someone also mentioned not hopping around too much. Find a deck that clicks and just play it and nothing else. How do you thik there's people in diamond with shit like face. it's the only deck they know and could play it and any matchup in their sleep.
>>532594035>How do you even learn about stuff like this though? There's fuck all English resources for shadowverse so honestly probably hearthstone videos talking about TCG fundamentals is most applicable and digestible.
>how would you even know that?Usually its comes with a facepalm when you realise your mistake. You learn from fuck ups. Why evolve the 1/1 against Haven when you could evolve your 2/2 instead, so their Salefa needs to trade into the 4/4 after her evolve? Shit like that comes with match-up knowledge, experience with your deck (stop switching decks so much). So basically time.
>>532594153I did play face dragon at the end of last set because I pulled 2 Fortes from park chests, I think I won more on it than Rune
Where's our grand bruise copy paste bwos?
>>532594312Based and non-brick pilled.
>>532594035NTA but a really common mistake newer players make is just not understanding RNG and not knowing how to play to their outs.
The very very basic version of the concept is that a lot of the time you'll have a choice between a play that'll win you the game off of a top deck, or a play that'll let you live longer based on the cards in your hand, and it's often going to be better, mathematically, to play off top deck RNG.
122066259564
Recruiting guild with 2 slots open. No minimum GRP, just do your daily logins and quests.
>>532594430You win more cause the game is shorter, good luck with face dragon this meta, your forte is not going through norman
>>532594349>How do you thik there's people in diamond with shit like face.The trick is to have Filene card sleeves to distract my opponents with her stinky lizard feet
>game tells me to play dirt
>I don't have Norman or AnnGrea
What do, bros?
>>532594698you joke, but that unironically works on me
>>532594710AnneGrea is not dirt, dishonest bro
I love how the game is about which classes can get out their Odins first and smash face.
Super Evolves on Storm followers should not get +3/+3. I lost to a forest player that did a 5 damage roach on turn 5 because it puts you in lethal range of double Odin and I had no heals.
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I'm fucking crying laughing
Rune let me play all three Cairns and two Bug Alerts to recycle them
>>532594265I just started putting into practice trying to think a few turns ahead. I'm not going to fill my board with fairies if it's T4/5 against Rune. I also try to work out like "If the Op does X then I'll Y but if they don't then I'll do Z". Also trying to seek out lethals a few turns ahead and what to do if it's countered. I really only started putting this into practice with tempo forest becasue I really fucking love that deck, I even spent 60k vials to fully animate it. So maybe I just need to keep grinding out the games. I came off a 10 win streak into a 4 loss streak back into a win streak so I'm at least making progress. I still need to work on:
"Shit like evolving the wrong follower against a likely Aragavy play wiping you vs leaving a follower up that he needs to evolve and trade into"
but I'll start adding that into the mix too because I think "Aragavy, everything is gonna get wiped but but I have X in hand so I'll just evo and trade into it".
>>532594773Okay, I don't have Norman then.
>>532594538>and it's often going to be better, mathematically, to play off top deck RNG.Wait not the other way around? That sounds crazy to a fella like me
>>532594758Bro I can't believe this game is pay2win...
Also I'm only in diamond like 30% of the time at best, this deck is fucking DOGSHIT
>>532594312I really should stop being autistic and craft a 3rd Exella and Odin
>20 winstreak in diamond one day
>20 losestreak to ruby the next
yeah
>>532593997S-so when is it dragon's turn to have a good statted 3 cost follower that can do something on turn 3?...
What even is rune deck anymore, half of their deck is fucking draw card
>>532595102you will get another 3pp ramp card. if you are at 10pp, heal 1. you rike?
Nerf sword already. The dishonest fucking niggers are ruining the game.
More intimidate dragons when? I like hitting people with baby dragons.
>>532595065I used to think it was rigged but someone recorded their win rates over multiple games, at like 20+ games a day for hearthstone and no sht the dude would have like 60% win rate one day and 37% the next day. Some anon posted the page here but I didn't save it.
>>532595192I want intimidate fairies
>>532595156>+50% more ramping in the deckToo generous. Not my KMR
>>532595180At least we know swordniggers are basically pajeets. Tier 0 sword meta and all I see is nonstop bitching about how they can't get out of topaz.
people genuinely believe in japanese decks they find on twitter '10-win streak!'?
>>532595452great job anon!
>>532595517https://x.com/bommzrc/status/1948042214522908800
30 wins bro. Legit bro
Are there any open guilds in svg? I play everyday...
>>532595532wtf this rules
kinda flat though...
does anyone know if you can still get the rewards for say, S if your guild is at S++ and you only have 120 GRP?
>>532595916you will only get S reward (120 GRP min)
>>532595868Dragon's grasp! With all my strength!
>>532595916No because you're getting kicked on the last day leech.
>>532596012Just means the grind was even longer than it needed to be
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>>532596000okay good I don't have to worry too much about lower rank people in my guild getting fucked over by us hitting s++ then
>>532596060>leechanon I...
>>532595517>play during the NA hours>mkae the most jank deck imaginable>have the JP hand rigging>win every game>post XX win streak deck>laugh as I crawl into bed thinking about all the gajin going on huge losing streaks and demoting with my XX win streak deck
only good guilds kick leeches
>>532596012>he got to master on a tier 2 deck in a tier 0 sword meta>>532595452Even heartier congratulations are in order, anon!
>>532584980what the the fuck is wrong with you
>>532596130Thanks for looking out for us little lazy people boss
Card idea for portal
Amulet of Disobedience
20pp
Subtract 1 pp for every artifact summoned or destroyed.
At the end of turn, banish all face up artifact you control, summon exact copy of those artifacts and they gain +0/+5
I kicked everyone that didn't log in after 3 days and everyone that was sub 120 in my guild at the end of last season
I kicked everyone that was 0 grp after a week this season
>>532596195You did it bwo!
How is it that every single card in sword's deck is dishonest? They don't have any generic filler.
lets play some lamp
oops nvm
>>532585845Rune does not have storm outside of super evolves nor does it have direct burn damage. That 7 mana burn/heal card for Sword that most decks don't use or not at all would be 3x of in Rune and would make them absolute tier 0.
>>532595916Don't worry danchou I will get masters 2 days before it ends and get 3 billion grp in 3 games.
>>532596571but bro they have bad draw (all their draw cards are overstatted and tutor)
and they have bad healing (all their boards are must-answer and they shit out multiple wards at a time)
and albert can't lethal if you have a ward at 4 hp (very few crafts can do this for multiple turns in a row)
and zirconia sucks going first (they have the best early game so it doesnt even matter)
>>532594916Not him, but I'd say it depends mostly on your opponent's possible responses on the next turn and the turn after.
The responses include their possible damage, healing, wards, boardclears. Some decks even have a designated kill turn, which you might want to avoid (like Roach Forest, I just try to close games before t7, if I can't then I pray that they don't have lethal)
Then you can look at your hand and possible draws, then decide to choose between topdeck lethal or prolonging the game. For aggro though, mostly topdeck lethal.
I would suggest Tempo Forest to train, but it's not that strong or easy to play.
Aggro Abyss is a nice deck, because you always play for face and topdecks, but you will learn something when facing another aggro, then you can think about possible interactions.
>>532596635the haven experience, now in dragon flavor
>free evolution is fine because she had to spend 2pp on earthrite before
>also she gets the 2pp back
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>>532595809576606695461
we have one slot open
i was just cleaning up so its perfect timing
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>>532594916I can't count the amount of times i've won games simply because my out was "ODIN OFF THE TOP CYGAMES PLEASE"
It always ends up like that because i either choose
>Delay the defeat for 2 turns and hope my opponent bricks (they never brick)>Setup win for next turn with a topdeck or die anyways
Am I crazy or is Portal aboslute fucking dogshit? Feels like every matchup is just a loss before I can even do anything, and for a deck that is supposed to be versatile, every other deck can also do everything anyways like heal, removal, etc.
>>532597032>every other deck can also do everything anyways like heal, removal, etc.No that is literally just Rune
>leader lucklet in SV1
>leader lucklet in SV2
>>532596926Firestorm duo bros... we have to pay 5 pp for the auto evolve and the damage is back loaded and easily played around and no pp refund...
>>532596984Even if I have Odin in my hand setting up for lethal never works because they heal 8 feel gr8 or some other bullshit
>>532596956>906280629796Nice
I only just realized all the wards say the same thing in their fanfare voice lines
>>532596753What kills me is how efficient their low end of the curve is at just nuking shit.
>valse>gunslinger girl>samurai>Prim princess>Luminous lancer>roseevery other craft wishes that they had even half of that.
When you've been struggling all day, KMR gives you a reason to keep grinding these scam chests.
I already have 3 copies...
>>532597032Artifact is highroll garbage. Ironhunter into Miriam into Aloutte into Aloutte into double Orchis wins you the game but when you play the deck you just sit on useless puppet cards and spells that don't contribute towards your wincon.
Puppets is more highroll garbage where if you don't have Orchis on super evolve turns you lose. Since Rune can heal a billion health you can't rely on Liam to finish the game after you Orchis face for 14 damage.
How do you win with control abyss?
Refresh my memory but was Dshift this cancerous?
>>532597032It is pretty weak right now. You cant make a single mistake and even if you play perfectly thing outside of our control can instantly make the game unwinable.
You know how to make portal instantly usable right now? Make the 1pp spell cost 0.
>>532597351grind them out and try to get 2 or 3-for-1s on your cards
Back to diamond guess its time to stop having fun...
>>532597351Wait for Rune to get their cocky Dshift and kill you
>>532597352It entirely shaped the meta. You could not play midrange or control decks because they auto lose to Dshift. So the entireity of Unlimited was trying to kill your opponent on turn 4 because Dshift could go off on turn 5.
Then they FINALLY nerfed Dshift and it disappeared from Unlimited forever.
Doesn't Norman spamming barrier wards cockblock roach hard? I don't see how Forest is favored against Rune.
>>532597609>fairy hit>fairy hit>bayle clear>bayle clear>roach roachoops
>>532597352D-shift was a 47% win rate deck. What made it truly awful was how D-shift players would rope and spam emote on all of their extra turns, and you couldn't concede early because there was a reasonable possibility that they didn't have.
>>532597609>2 fairies fist 2 barriers>2 bayle>Now you are naked and soon dead
>>532597609Roach can get through a board of Amelia buffed wards from Luminious magus. it's a matter how many 0 cost Bayles you have.
>2 months in
>still haven't fixed match making error
sv1 bros, I want to hit master in rotation. Is Blood any fun in the upcoming throwbacks?
>>532597740>he thinks it's an errorthat's the forced 50% kicking in
>>532597312I should have specified that I play Artifact but yeah
>Artifact is highroll garbageMan that's what I've been saying. I feel like games are only playable if you draw the perfect ratios of artifact generators/cheaters otherwise you just sit there like a jackass waiting for the other half of your deck praying you just don't die. My only card game background is YGO and it's like playing a deck with too many bricks and 2 card combos that require you to already be playing.
>>532597395What's funny is I was deciding between Artifact and Sword because I liked their aesthetics and clearly I picked wrong
>Make the 1pp spell cost 0.I don't even know if that's gonna do anything
>3rd Albert
KMR wants me to become the cancer...
>>532597609Isn't it just a couple of barriered 3/3 wards? Doesn't sound too bad after a couple of fairies ping it off
>>532597609>fairy>fairy>lily evoWow you just cleared Norman AND one of the golems AND removed barrier from the other one too
Swordbabs did any of you try that 19-win deck?
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orchis with two (2) husbandos
>Abyss is everywhere in diamond
>The highest abyss wins has almost 500 more wins than the next class
>>532598095>8pp 4/4Do you have any clue how bad that would be?? Lol she'd be the laughingstock of the whole game!!
>>532598219Aggro is the fastest deck
>>532597946I'll become cancer if they give me a Gil, I'm not crafting her.
>>532598175post full, all I see on recent on pixiv is ai guro slop
>>532597395One thing about Portal is that in set 1, Artifacts could comfortably go deep into late game against anything but Spellboost (and against spellboost if a good early roll forced out both sevos). Depending on how the early game panned out you could lean hard on this to eke out victories via value and burn damage.
Now that the ladder is 60% sword and Gildaria autowins the Sword lategame, Portal can't do that anymore, so the deck lost a chunk of its power.
It also suffers from aggro abyss actually being good; similar to Rune you end up running a bunch of cards you don't actually want in order to survive aggro, but unlike with dirt cards which at least scale, the puppet cards you can run without bricking the deck are pretty low value outside the early games.
>>532597609Two fairies kill the barriers and then it's just 3/3 wards which are trivially easy for roach to kill. Keep in mind roach can occasionally even get lethals past Ralmia dumping triple 1/6 wards so 2 golems is nothing.
>vs puppet portal
>they coin orchis and do another orchis
>they spam emotes and rope until last hit
are puppet players mentally ill?
Why in the hell can you banish every other amulet in the game EXCEPT dirt piles. God forbid you give COUNTER PLAY against the class with ZERO COUNTER PLAY.
FFS even the shitty vtuber has aura while Yurius is Odin food 95% of the time.
>>532598403>why won't the devs just completely kill my opponents' decksswordbitch-kun...
>>532597834Wrath was fine in Calamity thanks to Urias, solid t2
>>532598403It has aura and can't be destroyed but technically if a future card had untargetted amulet banish it could do it.
>>532597352Dshift was more cancerous. Dclimb is babies compared to dshift.
>>532598278Obviously, but the problem is that aggro abyss is fast (read "brain dead") and strong at the same time
>>532598561it's not even tier 1 dude
>>532597609Forest has an excellent removal suite, it can blow through 4 wards easy. The reason it struggles against Ward Haven is because aura and big bodies are both major weaknesses of Forest.
>>532598561>The deck ends games instead of sitting on its ass for 20 turns means its brain dead
>>532598319Artifact shits on Sword if they draw well. It's the only match up where Masterwork actually works because Sword cannot heal after being Orchis'd twice.
Against Aggro Abyss you're dead by turn 5 cause early game you have no wards or heal.
>>532597109this is sexist!
>>532598403I should be able to banish Dragon's play point orbs then.
>>532597352i just remember a horrible sword aggro meta and there were so many dshift faggots that you couldnt play control and farm aggro
>>532598309https://files.catbox.moe/g02ep1.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/ywlwnx.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/8xdsh7.jpg
>>532597838interesting hypothesis
>>532598751based, thanks anon. that's my exact fetish
>>532598603tier lists aren't made by people that can make it to diamond, that's why they change every day
>>532598628Exactly
>>532598319Sword is the only good matchup Artifact has right now.
>>532598716There was a super cancer deck called Prime Dragon Keeper and it shit on everything except some shitty aggro sword deck and the shitty sword deck got nerfed harder than PDK lmao.
>>532584980It's a screenshot from reddit you retards
>>532597880The problem with the 1pp spell is that it is utterly clunky to use.
The only possible scenario to use it is where you can get 4 artifact pieces before alouette / catapult + carnelia, because you will never be able to use it during the turn you alouette / carnelia.
The window to use it is just not there. We need to open 2 artifact adder spell if you play second. For first player the window is larger yet still difficult to do.
So what is the spellboost dirt rune for climbing ranked and farm boxes? Please
I am not close at all to master or diamond
>>532597305Still 1200 dust, much better than the usual 200 rupees you are getting from a gold chest
>>532599056If nothing else you can always copy parachan
https://www.youtube.com/@para_channel
>>532599056You could figure it out on your own and reach diamond in a few hours. It's no hard to figure out all the broken rune cards and throw them together in a deck.
>The virgin "Yay tanoshi!" vs the chad "Coming through! Coming through! Waaaah!"
Dub is clearly the superior option
>>532599259the nip version sounds cuter though
>>532599185https://youtu.be/kLPjRrpscG8
Is rune seriously dropping insight now?
Why no pascale too here
>>532599326>Is rune seriously dropping insight now?It's followerboost, not spellboost.
>>532599326inisght and pascale too slow vs the swordtards and the abyss tards
>so tired of playing artifact because of it is pretty weak this meta
>switch to aggro abyss and already get 12 wins today
>>532599326The mojority of your spellboost always came from A&G + Kuon anyways. Bregent lets you drop even more.
>I'll only clear board if your PP is thiiis big
Ugh Burnite is such a size queen.
>>532599326>those onions and 2 spells are enough to get dclimb to 0 before turn 10nice game dotards
>>532599326Wait until they drop dclimb and just run a value package of every overtuned rune card
Man, I'm glad ward haven is so rare because I've only seen them not have salefa wilburt aether on curve once.
>>532599259I actually really, really love the english dub on all of these cards.
They all sounds extremely fucking great, honestly its probably the best part of the game, just hearing all these voicelines.
It doesn't get talked remotely enough, makes the game feel so much better.
They need to add more interactions and shit between cards as well.
>>532599439what is luna saying there?
Lets make a card that can spellboost with every attack, make it has rush, and can be summoned every turn. Whoever make this shit deserves to burn in hell
Does Cheretta still go weeeehhh in English? Otherwise it's shit
>half the thread is crying about Rune while sword is pulling 30+ win streaks in master diamond and every streamer has a 80 percent or higher win rate with it
>>532599664"I'm going to burn the food" (ใใใใญ)
It's a dumb wordplay on her trade mark "I'm going to kill you" (ใใใใญ)
>>532598561>the problem is that aggro abyss is fast (read "brain dead")Poor wittwe controlsissy having a melty about a deck not jerking off with removal for eight turns in a row.
https://www.youtube.com/live/1cA8ZuoGVN4
This dumbfaced vtuber's dumb face reminds me of Marie's
I can't imagine a single thought happening in that head
(WARNING Rune player)
>>532599845the defletion is going to aggro abyss this thread, keep up
>>532600006>the retardtuber is playing runePottery.
>>532599905ah, thank you very much
>>532600006>(WARNING Rune player)phew, almost got jumpscared. thanks anon
>>532600006>rune>not swordErr runesisters are we actually the retard class???
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>>532599845Welcome to /svg/ the land of eternal seethe for rune. (They're all sword players)
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>>532600006You're right she does look really retarded
>>532600242both classes have 1 card braindead board vomit that requires no thought
you just brain off drop kuon or amelia on curve
Remember that Rune has a bad matchup against every class in the game except sword. If anyone is bitching about Rune they are definitely a sword main trying to shit on a blatantly underpowered class.
>>532600006>tune in>says nothing for like an entire minute>"...I'm hungry"
>>532600427kys downplayer
>>532600374Huh, maybe I'd win more with rune if I didn't save all my kuons for turn 10 d-climb combo potential. That's the most fun way to win though with rune currently.
>>532600354The combination of her repetitive dumb bgm and slowly dragging her cursor for every move puts me right to sleep
>>532600006>the retardtuber is in master sapphireWhat's your excuse for being anything below sapphire, anons?
>>532600601I've seen someone with the 2018 RAGE champion flair fall all the way down to topaz.
>>532600601U-uh.. nip draws.... f-forced 50...
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wow this is cool looking card. i never seen it before. when did they release it?
>get into ruby
>swordbab
>control abyssbab larping as aggro
>runebab
>>532600601She's clearly thinking about her turns bro, not a retard. If she was a true retard like me she'd be in ruby and topaz.
>>532600601>Sapphire Is the really the impressive part here? I'm in Diamond but nowhere near Master. You guys put emphasis on the silliest things.
>>532600790Most of /svg/ is in topaz.
This is what the meta feels like to me:
>Sword and Rune are competing to see who is most dishonest at the top.
>power gap
>The duality of abyss. Nobody knows if they should be mulliganing to prepare to face off against a hyper aggressive suicide aggro deck, or batten down the hatches for a 30 minute match against a 20 leggo value pile
>power gap
>some gacha addicts gambling with fish ramp or the ward haven high roll, and the artifact/puppet enthusiasts.
>>532600790AA1+ sapphire is where you start facing actual pros
>>532600790Getting to diamond should be harder in master than c rank, yes.
>>532600782>She's clearly thinking about her turns bro, not a retard. If she was a true retard like me she'd be in ruby and topaz.She just played Norman instead of William when the enemy had Cerberus on board and then realised Norman can't clear sevo Cerberus. There is not a thought in that head.
>>532600863Forest is fucking dead
>play artifact
>not having bullet against Sevo amalia
>lost
the worst part is Ralmia can't deal with it with Sevo unless you made 3 gamma
>Orchis can, with one more puppet
>Cerberus can
>kuon can't, but Rune can definitely find their windblast by turn 8 with their draw power
>Jeanne can
>Garyu can't but Twilight/Burnite/Filene can
>forest can't, but they're probably looking for lethal at t8 anyway
almost all crafts' boss cards can deal with this gold card except pure artifact
>>532600006the bgm is maddening, it's cracking me up
>>532598751Is reprogramming Sekka to be a sex slave good for you
>>532600863>>532600958I honestly haven't seen a forest player all week. Although I am just a scrub down in B-rank. Diamond B-rank, but still just B.
>>532600790pros cant even maintain master diamond in this shit meta
even spicies has dropped to sapphire
>>532600950Oh, I'm not watching. Well I don't have any excuse I'm just a massive retard.
>>532600006Am I playing a vtuber game...
>>532601001you have to save your bullets and streams of life
youd wanna save bullets anyway to the retard yurius drop
>>532600950Runesissies can still be in master sapphire while playing like this?
>>532601068Sword vs Sword is just decided on coinflip since going second will always win. Only Dayan with Roach is able to consistantly win since he is playing 4d chess while everyone else is playing checkers but even he just gets shit on if he ever faces ward haven
>run 3 dshifts
>haven't drawn a single one in 3 games
that's...interesting
>>532601156No, just a streamer game
Especially Japanese streamer game
And they come with that territory
(until the Hololive collab then it's gg)
>>532601001As long as Amalia exists you can't cut Orchis, even more now because you want to keep a bullet in hand to not autolose to Yurius
Are there any good CCGs coming out soon?
>>532601353I heard shadoba 2 came out recently, you should check it out.
Babs, if I don't get Filene I'm gonna freak. I have full playsets of so many Dragon cards that I need an excuse to use.
>Havenfag spam emotes me cause I'm 1 off from lethal and I'm out of steam
>He forgot about the Balto crest
MY GOAT
FUCK YOU HAVENKEK
>>532601353artifact 2 will kill this posg for good
>>532601287>Hololive collabSurely never
>>532600006>she literally had a 0-cost dshift in hand after playing a 10pp Kuon and a second Kuon in hand but for some reason didn't go for the easiest lethal in the worldRunebabs???
>>532601353There's Elestrals Clash coming out on the 31st, but that game's art direction is pretty shit.
It's honestly so disheartening seeing what kind of mistakes you can get away with playing a rune deck and still stay in Master Sapphire, while people playing more honest decks can't get away with a tenth of those misplays.
>>532601734>more honest decksName 5
What happened to storm haven and stealth haven...
For SV1 oldfags:
How often did cygames buff/nerf cards?
More nerfs than buffs? Did they ever revisit a card after buffing/nerfing it once?
HAHAHAHAHA AGGROKEKS NOT EVEN ONCE ME THE CHAD NO 2 COST CONTROL SCHIZO VS THE BATBABY AGGROTARD
>>532601773Abyss, Forest, Haven, Portal, Dragon.
All of the decks in those crafts are more honest than boostshit.
>>532600427The only reason people haven't completely ditched spellboost for dirt is its slightly favored sword matchup, which is worth gold in a tier 0 sword meta.
>>532601225But /svg/ told me that Ward Haven is shit!!!
>>532601831>For SV1 oldfags:>How often did cygames buff/nerf cards?>More nerfs than buffs? Did they ever revisit a card after buffing/nerfing it once?Yes, yes, and yes.
>>532601902They haven't ditched spellboost because having an instant win condition on turn 10 is always going to be better than not having it when your entire deck is about stalling at long as possible.
>>532601831I only ever saw nerfs
>>532601773ward haven
control haven
storm haven
lapis haven
heal haven (soon)
I wonder how is going to be the take two meta in the next set, surely is not going to be infested with rune and sword like ranked right?
>>532601831Handful of cards get adjusted per expansion (nerfs/buffs started in Set 3 of SV1). If there was something that was actually tier 0 and meta warping, it'd get emergency nerfed (there are no tier 0 decks currently in SV2).
Always nerfs from memory
>>532601831Nerfs happened in almost every expansion, some more drastic than others. Buffs happened but much less often. Lots of cards had their nerfs undone, some cards got nerfed multiple times.
>>532602079its going to be like that forever because even if a new deck is good people have to craft cards from three expansions so its easier to just update your current deck
just curious how does ramp dragon do against sword? playable at all or completely hopeless?
>>532602079sword is THE take 2 god craft since forever since all of their pick is braindead do everything in one value card. though rune is usually pretty garbage
>>532602079Sword was very good in Take Two, Rune not so much
You're telling me a follower that had ambush and do 16 damage to the face on turn 6 isn't balanced?
>>532602079Rune is traditionally dogshit in T2 because it is more synergy focused than the other classes. Sword on the other hand can just play whatever pile it wants, and it will be 85% of a perfect constructed deck.
So Shadoba 1 eventually added Portal, what are the odds that Shadoba 2 adds a new class?
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>>532602079you can pick the exact class you want this time so I don't see why you wouldn't just pick sword if you are trying to win
>>532602273>killing it when it's in ambush also meant you took 6 to the face
The followerboost design of nu-Rune has been a major design mistake. It means they don't really have to run spells unless they want to and can just jam in good value cards from any other archetype Cygames ever prints for Rune with no downside, meaning followerboost will always just be a goodstuff.dec with a free instant win finisher once they get enough followerboost card played.
This both erodes identity of the archetype, which previously actually had to run mostly spells in SV1, and is a design nightmare going forward, as any good card for any rune archetype will just make followerboost decks stronger.
>>532602286Rune is going to be way better in 2 because they just slapped their gimmicks onto normal value cards. That's why they are able to get away with running dirt and spellboost in the same deck right now. You don't have to build around their mechanics
>>532602296Probably 0, Portal being added halfway through the game's lifespan meant it was a design nightmare. Constantly either tier 0 broken or tier 4 dogshit.
>>532602296The devs are on record that they regretted adding an 8th craft cause it made card design too complicated and lengthy due to additional considerations for interactions etc, hence why they collapsed the perennial design issue of bloodcraft into shadowcraft
So I kinda doubt it.
>>532601831It's usually nerfs, and often times the card would cost one more which would basically kill it like Darkfeast Bat or Noah. But those decks would usually be incredibly powerful and basically see 100% use rate in tournaments. Since the meta would be regularly changing anyway, it wasn't a bad thing to see dominant decks fuck off and other things see play.
>>532602079Unless something changes with set 3 sword will be king of t2, rune will be stronger than it was in SV1 thanks to AG and Kuon not needing setup but won't be able to touch sword
>>532602496They should have killed portal instead of blood.
why do people say that abyss is expensive?
We unironically need Alice back to put pressure on Rune and Control Abyss.
>>532602296yeah kmr told me it'll be called minecraft
>>532602587I miss Revelation...
>>532602595>tfw lost with my HONEST Jack Black + Snood deck against a DISHONEST Chicken Jockey retard deck
Did they intentionally make some of the new leaders look like shit to sell gacha leaders?
>>532602676I'm getting too old for this shit
>>532602743sexo with dumbpires
>>532602712Yes, Diawl obviously only exists to sell alternative leaders.
>>532602036Why did they nerf everything besides Alice, until finally admitting that it was all Alice's fault
I demand either Diawl forma de femboy leader or Nio feet sleeves. When is KMR giving either of those to us?
>>532602572I will never forgive blood for ruining every take 2 gp
I'm glad its mechanics are dead and I hope Valnareik is a generic aggro finisher instead of bringing back the cancer that was wrath
>>532602798Fucked up considering everyone base in SV1 was playable.
I want her to do horrible, HORRIBLE things to me
>>532602884Alice is very popular in Japan and they didn't want the negative coverage from nerfing her.
>>532602915You...are gay...
>>532602676Actually the chargers are Garbageman Jack Black fighting General Chungus and Malagosha did you even watch the Minecraft movie?!
>>532602798Remember when /svg/ thought Diawl was going to be a little girl LMAO
he's a fucking TWINK
>>532603064I'll make turn him into a girl when I'm through with him.
>>532602884Alice was played in every deck. They were trying to make it so more than one craft could play ladder so they targeted the blood cards first.
>>532603039Nio was mADE for ojiisans gangbangs.
I WILL impregnate him
>b-b-b-bbut he's a boyImpregnation
>h-h-h-h-he's not even hum-Impregnation
>h-h-h-he has no wom-IMPREGNATION
>tfw Daria made me quit Shadoba
>Came back after the Wonderland Dreams debacle
I missed out on a historic era of Shadoba because of this bitch
>>532603039>giving the petite shota a fat bundadisgusting
>>532603064Who also has pink hair. He's basically a sissy.
>>532603039Its not gay when the boy looks like a girl (if you squint)
>abyss has lolis, big titty mommy girls, goth girls, and now also shotas and femboys
The ultimate sexocraft. Has everything for everyone's taste.
>>532602884She was the literal face of the expansion and the neutral mechanics they were pushing.
>>532603182That wasn't just a historical era in this game, but all card games. I've never in my life seen such a mindbogglingly broken SSSS++++ tier deck that became the only thing to play in any other game in my life. I'll b on my deathbed, my arms and legs completely atrophied, playing whatever the latest skinnerbox card game is with nothing but a brain chip and I'll still be complaining about release neutral blood.
Am I getting my chain yanked?
The claim is this went 24-30 for the deck crafter.
>>532598095Would become worse than hochan literally
>SVO kickoff
>swiss best of one
and I am supposed to take this seriously?
>just get a 75% winrate to qual
sure bro
>get to sapphire
>its just high roll sword every game
its all so tiresome
>>532598992Proof next thread?
>>532599638It's what makes Shadowverse my card game of choice really.
Other card games should take note.
Voice line make them come alive.
I do play dear days because vanguard is fun but you bet im not using the game audio.
>3 sagelight 2 norman
>only wins because he has satan + dclimb into astaroth
FUCK OFF WHAT IS WRONG WITH SAPPHIRE HIGH ROLL
>>532599845See thing is everyone plays sword here and guess what's advantaged against sword?
That's right, rune.
oh shit i forgot its prime time in japan and chinkland
yeah that explains it
haven needs some serious buffs
>>532602212viable but its a uphill battle
>rune guaranteed to hit 10 PP now because of a million heals
>auto wins every game with cocytus and dclimb into astaroth
people will defend this
>>53260465924 wins and 30 losses in topaz seems about right