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>News
Agent Record | Seed
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40193008
Version 2.1 "The Impending Crash of Waves" Special Program
https://youtu.be/lT68Fo91vWk
Agent Record | Alice Thymefield
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/39231485
Agent Record | Ukinami Yuzuha
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/39218785

>Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demo
https://youtu.be/fFU7rj7IoLo (EN)
https://youtu.be/c4mHDmvrn4M (JP)
https://youtu.be/yV8loyeDX_M (EN)
https://youtu.be/_i8DIN0zyZo (JP)
https://youtu.be/ftIfHp2h7eg (EN)
https://youtu.be/Oz3CTkv8AKo (JP)
https://youtu.be/DDl9QwUtLGg (EN)
https://youtu.be/PzvF1WBLibs (JP)

>Upcoming Events for 2.1
https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/157696
All-New Program 07/16 - 09/03
Tales of Midsummer Dreams 07/17 - 09/03
Legend of the Marvelous Fish Stall 07/22 - 08/11
"En-Nah" Chess Legend 07/28 - 09/03
Advanced Bounty: Routine Cleanup 08/01 - 08/06
"En-Nah" Into Your Lap 08/06 - 09/03
Ghost Ship Adventure 08/06 - 08/25
JoJo's Space Mystery 08/13 - 08/25
Failume Summer Puzzle 08/20 - 09/03
Data Bounty: Combat Simulation 08/27 - 09/01

>Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online)
https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption
ZENLESSGIFT
ZZZ21SUMMER
YUZUHAGIFT
ALICEYUZUHA

>Resources and useful links
https://rentry.org/zzzlinks
https://rentry.org/ZZZ-drawpile
https://rentry.org/ZZZFriends

>/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):
https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P

>sneed and feet
yeah yeah, but where are the k0t buffs?

FEET

>Seed is a cute girl
>Also foot faggotry
DAMN YOU MONKEY'S PAW

If you don't have Fearless on your workout playlist you are fucking gay.

>>532606543
>buffs
lmao

>>532606543
Negromata...

>>532606450 (OP)
Firefly could never HOLY SHIT

What do rupture agents do? is it really just def ignore on all their attacks? did this really need to be a new class/role?

>>532606450 (OP)
For free?

>>532614094
>is it really just def ignore on all their attacks?
Yes.
>did this really need to be a new class/role?
Yes so they could sell YX's wengine.

It's all on her now.

>>532614094
No, it didn't. They could have just introduced some Attack characters who have scaling Penetration.

SAARS DO NOT REDEEM THE FEET

Hag Correction

>>532615332
Rupture has HP manipulation though

I do not like this very much

Why does Mihoyo hate robot characters?

>>532606450 (OP)
This looks like a bad fake ad for a non 3D game
Like nikke or some shit

You know what piss me off about people comparing Seed with Firefly. Firefly doesn't even fucking riding mech, she is tokusatsu type character, she even have rider kick move FOR FUCK SAKE

SNEED AND FEET

>Alice
>skip 2.2
Idols are probably for CNY so I'm saving for a while it seems.
Thanks Zhenyu

>>532606450 (OP)
Feet are Hoyocore

SEED's (F) entire package is perfect. If you don't like her, you're gay.

I AM SO ANGRY

Mihoyo really likes the 'Male mech/Female driver'
Give me 'female mech/female driver' combo combo.

Cute girlfriends

>>532615414
That's a more of a mechanic unique to Yixuan, we'd need to see another rupture to knows if it's going to be a class-wide thing.

>>532606450 (OP)
FootGODS win again

>>532615548
True and factual. Attempts to refute this automatically make you a homosexual.

>>532615432
I'd roll for a ZZZ Power Ranger.

>>532615564
Nobody want that beside you

>>532615432
Devs knew people are gonna make the comparison. They're piggybacking like Wuwa is to Genshin. They didn't realise FF coins have dipped.
Enjoy the ride.

Didn't they already said back in 1.0 that Obol was women only?

>>532606450 (OP)
>skipped sanby because they nerfed her beta animations and she looked like a brick without trigger, got trigger
>orphie reveal, maybe thinking I should have pulled sanby for the obol team
>SEED FEET ELECTRIC ATTACK
zero regrets

>>532615564
Sandrone looks so much better than Seed. I HATE IT.

>>532615625
>FF coins have dipped
Last I checked she's still the most popular HSR character

THIS CANNOT CONTINUE

No one cares about obol
They are aaaaaaaaall shit

>>532615564
Mechs are inherently masculine

>>532615296
That works. I still need to save but I've set aside funds to max him.

>>532615324
Ah, my bad.

They need to change the mech.

>>532615625
>FF coins have dipped
I'm pretty sure she's still far more popular than any new slopphoreus female character.

>>532615570
Unless Manato has DEF manipulation (not gonna happen) he'll always be HP manipulation for that survival capabilities

Don't like this slut she looks like HSR slop. Saving for bunny and robot idol.

>>532615694
Not to mention big guardian robot for a little girl is kino. Seed looks like garbage, though, and Seed Senior is kind of bland.

I am gay and don't like SEED (cute girl).

>>532615725

>>532615734
Seed and sneed

>>532615734
PITS UOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>532615734
She's even wearing the Honkaislop™ dress.

>>532615685
>>532615729
Don't look up how her rerun + outfit is doing right now lol

>>532615715

>>532615725
They need to change the girl. Her outfit sucks.

ABORT ABORT

>>532615838
>old character that has completely fallen off the meta isn't selling in the most egregiously powercreeping mihoyo game
wow

>>532615734
>HSR
She looks like Wuwa. HSR would've looked busier.

>>532615868
You like this, don't you? >>532615858

>>532615838
>Most Fireflyfags already have her at E2S1
>She's a powercrept brick for new players without her dedicated team
Woah

Save me me anon!

>>532615961
>express desire for a cute girl
>this means you like men
Learn English, SEApag.

>>532615734
>>532615953
You homos need to make up your mind. Does she look like HSR or does she look like Wuwa? Need a concrete reason to hate her.

They just need to change the hair. Right now she looks like a 30y/o Sumeru character.

>>532616012
>shitposting that she isn't cute
RETARD

>>532615950
Isn't selling is accurate
When has HSR had a rerun that just doesn't sell at all and this is with outfit. It's doing worse than current Wuwa shitshow.

>>532615991
I have 28k poly right now and increasing with all these ass banners.

I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE

>>532616041
The bright blue hair looks strange next to her squad.

>>532616012
she's already cute, you're just gay

Now that they made seed Epsteincoded, who's the next female character for actual straight males?

>>532616098
THE NUMBERS MASON
WHAT DO THEY MEAN?

>>532616031
she looks like pgr character actually

Looking back, we never had a blue haired character except for Lighter.

>>532616068
Her outfit looks like it belongs in HSR and the only reason anyone cares about her are FEET.

It brings me great pleasure to know what you thought was your game was stolen from you by foot fetish gooners.

>>532616150
she's 17 and 3/4ths old so be careful

>>532615513
Only really looking for an Evelin ball at this point.

>>532616095
Bro FFfags already have her and anyone who wanted her outfit when the patch is up
The only people rolling for FF right now are clueless newfags who don't know she has been powercrept

He's literally me and yes all the girls belong to me

>>532616162
nah she looks like an uma musume

PLEASE MAKE IT STOP

>>532616175
And her flat chest and exposed pits.

>>532616143
There are zero hags in 2.x patches. Fuck Homoverse.

>>532615603
Wait for S-Rank Billy.

>3 other cute girl in Obol Squad
>2 cute girls just came out this patch
>Idols confirmed to be coming up
>Dude with a new big model coming up(so males are not the problem)
how can you possibly logically rationalize Seed also being a cute girl? literally why not have 1(one) singular cool robot playable character?

we need more hags
every time I look at yixuan my dick starts getting hard

this is not normally

>>532616256
YOUR FUCKING YIXUANVILLETTE??????
Holy fuck you got tons of hags in 1.x and you're still demanding more in 2.x

>>532616256
Bro your shifu?

>>532616282
In like a fucking year.

>>532616282
I am...

SEED mindbroke me

Smell a little wormy in here

>>532616189
That cope would work if she wasn't allegedly the most popular character kek
Wriohomo rerun still made more and nobody fucking played Genshin during that patch
You gotta accept the coins have dipped and people are eager to move on

>>532616095
Outfit was released last banner with Phainon, retardbro.
And this is her 2nd rerun.
Try looking at how much her 1st rerun did before spouting more bullshit.
And we're like what? day 0.5 of the new banner?

>>532616251
Mogged by Lucy and Piper in those departments. Also inferior to the Idols.

>>532616370
embrace feet

>>532616283
The armor didn't need to look as masculine as it does. They've done this shit twice now.

>>532616283
>literally why not have 1(one) singular cool robot playable character?
You get cool robot playable character AND cute girl in one package bro.

>>532616391
then wash your dick

>>532616398
Comparing Genshin and HSR is retarded.
Characters from 1.x are still usable in Genshin.
You can't do that in the powercreep shitshow game that is HSR.

They didn't drip Komano, he's the S rank on the second half

>>532616331
roasties can't stand the sight of cute and funny girls

>>532616447
They ruined it by pushing feet so hard.

>>532616283
Why not? Who doesn't want more cute girls? Oh wait I can think of some

>>532616447
But cute girls make my blown out worm infested asshole flare up.

>>532616283
People yet to understand the certainty of steel.

>Orphie attacker that has off field aftershocks
>SEED attacker that has off field aftershocks
are they deadass releasing a banner with competing roles?

>>532616256
hagslop is what killed 1.x and almost ruined 2.0.

>>532615734
make it more transparent. I had thought it was a babydoll dress for a second.

>>532616283
The mecha is sentient and voiced by JP Optimus Prime.

>>532616497
Is any 1.X character still usable besides Bennet, Xinyan, and maybe Venti?

I stopped playing after it became clear they weren't going to give me a 5* Beidou.

>>532616554
SEED is on field, she needs other units performing off-field aftershocks to function.

>>532616401
>>532616497
I don't think you understand how little she's making kek
Well, not that it matters. We'll see signs of it here with SEED anyway.

>>532616283
We're still getting Seed Sr, Yutane and possibly S rank Billy later this year. Honestly 2.X might be a decent redemption arc for the lack of robots since release.

You will not convince me that Miyabi is good, she's worse than Eve/Yixuan and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.

>>532616283
Billy...

>>532615564
isnt that just mechamusume?

Maybe SEED Robot can only be used in combat? SEED Girl is the one you control in the city.

>>532616687
>that team
You are just retarded.

i am bad at this game but 9 stars is 9 stars yippie

>>532615635
no, robots don't have gender anyway

>>532616663
We're almost certainly not going to get to interact with Seed Sr. much. The agent reveal went whole hog on pushing Girl Seed and she's probably all we'll see outside of combat. Seed Sr. may as well just be a suit of armor.

>>532616687
i'm speechless

>>532616687
>whale doesn't know how to play the game
many such cases

>>532616741
There's nothing wrong with the team you gaslighting n*gga.

>>532616398
>Wriohomo rerun still made more
He didn't. We have data on Firefly's 1st rerun (this is the 2nd and there's no real data on it yet) and you might wanna compare it to Furina's.

>>532616662
I don't think you realise how retarded you sound right now.

>>532616497
And you're the bigger retard for not even seeing through his real Bullshit.

>>532615732
Why don't defenders has def manipulation?

Why so many femcels play this game? Like what do they expect if they hate playable female characters?

>>532616590
HOW OLD IS PIPER?!

FGO chad here.
Your robot and girl combo suck.
As expected of china.

>>532615734
hsrg and gig said she looks like a wuwa npc

>>532616687
build your slowkaku and replace bricksar

>>532616687
There has to be something wrong with you anon. With Caesar and Yuzuha Miyabi gets +2000 atk and a shield so she won't get interrupted with anything.

>>532616834
>you pedos are not the target audience
who the fuck do they think is the target audience
yuri femcels? god I wish these chinks didn't do omni-pandering with all their games

>>532616859
About 9004 years old

>>532616859
40 minimum

>>532616876
but okuni flopped hard?

>>532616891
Just goes to show you that nobody wants to claim her design as their own. It's that bad.

2.x designs are so fucking bad

It must be cold not wearing shoes.
Seed should keep her feet warm in my mouth.

>>532616176
we are all rolling Orphie or saving for Chinatsu

>>532616283
devs felt insecure and went with the worst of both worlds giving themselves extra work for no gain

>>532616950
We strive for soul above all else.

>>532616742
>>532616687
fuck owning fire attack characters

>>532616997
I actually like Yuzuha and Orphie. Seed just looks so bland, though.

what is wise wearing under his shorts,

>>532617035
fellow pippyCHAD...

>>532616834
Mihoyo going full normie pandering was a disaster, now these vermins will follow them anywhere regardless on how much they try to get away from them

>>532616914
>There has to be something wrong with you anon.
I spam left click, get E on cool down, get my 6 stacks and hold left click. Miyabi is just not a pumper unless you carry her with Astra and Yanagi

He....He's LITERALLY ME!

organic feet >> forced feet

>>532616640
Not only is that literally Anby's role but that isn't what the leakers are saying either.

Damn, I suck at this game.

>>532617074
>I spam left click, get E on cool down,
Are you sure you're getting all the stacks from Yuzuha?

>>532616283
The devs weren't confident in their original design so they muddled it and gave us this steaming pile of shit wrapped in feet pics.

>>532617063
support for his 12 inch cock, it'd flop around otherwise

>>532617124
Probably not. I swap her in to block and use her E when it's available.

seed looks like
>genshit
>hsr
>pgr
>wuwa
>reverse9999999
>tribe nine
>fgo
>buruaca
>uma
>love and deepthroat
>dragalia...lost
>priconne
>kancolle
>azur
and is simultaneously bland and offensive. I, an expert character designer who doesn't play the game, say so.

>>532616687
this is epic rage bait.
if it's not rage bait just piper and the anomaly buff bro.
As much as I love KING i feel like she just doesn't have as much value as she used to.

https://x.com/lilyproJP/status/1947477095770427702
bwo? we lost to yuri sissies...

>>532617196
Bro, yuri debates were for yesterday. It's Seed debates today.

>Seed tells you she doesn't actually control Seed Sr. from within, this patch
>Seed and other characters compare how she fights to the proxies controlling Eous
>Rando leaker claims the opposite the day before the test server updates
>Seed Ult shows she has her pilot chair leaned back, in a fairly big cockpit

Unless Seed is secretly tiny, she isn't actually inside of Seed Sr.

>>532616827
Live rank has always been up lmao you can check on it whenever you want
It's legit doing worse than Wuwa's shitshow and I don't undermine the use of "shitshow" here. That's with Jingliu and Blade post buff. You either gonna accept the coins have dipped or the game is dead (which is wrong) kek

Do not look at r/komanomanatomains....

>>532617196
I like the English VA honestly. JP is still better because lucy says desu-wa.

Black Guy here and i love Jane Doe

Please no more yuri vs self insert shitflinging

wanted to roll alice but I'll be saving for the robot girl now. all my chromes just for her!

Okay she's reached 31k likes but this is still only a little more than half of Yuzuha.

>>532617186
It's not rage bait there are plenty of mediocre Miyabi scores in the 20ks running a full premium team, Yixuan and Eve feel much better until I complete a team for Miyabi.

>>532616997
Lets see
Good: Fufu, Yuzuha, Alice, Orphie
Bad:Yixuan and SEED
We still in the positive gweilo.

>>532617258
I don't want to see her repulsive feet during the ultimate.

>>532617258
What did seed mean when she said they smelled the same?

>>532616589
He also dubs Arnold in everything, so I think he's going to be a terminator 2 ref

>En Seed Sr. will be the most dogshit Arnold impersonation you've ever heard

>>532617273
>This ranking that doesn't mean shit in the super short term is up
Putting aside the fact that this is her 2nd rerun, you really are that retarded, huh.

>>532617361
You forgot Pan Yinhu. People love his design even if his kit is so garbage that he isn't even a real playable character.

>>532617196
she walked it back fuck off already

>>532617109
NTA but what did anon say wrong?
The leaker said SEED has aftershocks (like Anby), will get buffed from aftershocks (like Anby), and you need to switch her out to recharge.
Isn't that the same thing.

>>532617258
neet seed in a VR console from far away possesses a bangboo (much like the proxies) that control the mech from inside the cockpit. It's not that hard.

>>532617512
She doesn't look like the greasy NEET I wanted, though. It sucks.

>>532616615
Off the top of my head, Xiangling, Xingqiu, Jean, Fischl, Sucrose, with the wheelchair team you can probably also run DPS Barbara and beat the Abyss comfortably.

>>532617567
Not a single cute girl neet in anime looks greasy or dirty.

>>532616687
>didnt pull her w-engine

>>532617453
The fuck are you smoking, kid? He's Astra for Yixuan and thus frees Astra up to be used on a different team plus he's A-rank so easily obtained and upgraded to max mindscape level.

>>532617386
You both have those implants that let you remotely control robots like Seed Sr and Eous, and she looks like she could be the same age as the proxies too

Maybe she got experimented on by Carole Arna too?

>>532617435
>super short term
kek what
if it's releasing the same time and is ranked lower than X then it's lower than X
where's the cope coming from

>>532617589
Right, Xiangling. I mixed her up with Xinyan.

>>532617353
to be fair you're running m2 Yixuan and Evelyn with their bis teams against their shill bosses

>>532606450 (OP)
holy

>absolutely zero voice from Seed Sr from the promotion material
they REALLY don't like the idea of a male Seed

>>532617627
Maybe. In one of the quote, there was a lady that called Seed (feet) a thing while holding a medical report.

>>532617183
grubblebros..

>>532617615
Bro your Karna's master in Fate Extra whose name I forgot

>>532617503
that isn't what he said
>on field
>needs units to perform aftershock
not whatever you wrote

>>532617616
>Miyabi fags will look you in the eye and say she's the best dps in the game who doesn't need a team as she is the team.
>The best part of Miyabi is that you can use your best supports on the other teams and still get an easy 20k.
Meanwhile the only good(high 20k and up) Miyabi scores I'm seeing are with the full premium anomaly team + engine. 6 months of pure Miyabi shilling has brain rotted the playerbase.

>>532617827
sex

>>532616997
This. Who the fuck asked for all these questionable aged characters? Reminder we haven't had a single female over 18 revealed yet.

>>532617763
He's just there as a cameo
>Oh look Optimus Prime VA!?
In no way he's gonna record much. He's old. Will mostly be Seed Jr.

Seed (the pilot) is apparently a ""monster"" and Seed Sr is apparently risking his life for her.

>>532617676
Lighter is nice but I would do okay with another stunner and or Lucy.

>>532617353
That new boss is alice's shill boss you'll be fine once you pull her. but honestly I think you aren't giving meebs enough credit, she's really easy to play and her blade attack lets you shoulder through a lot. she's also really easy to play.

>>532617847
imagine the meltdown when prydmeme tierlist drops mibibi a tier, general will be unusable for days

>zako zako

>>532617843
Leaker explicitly said she has aftershocks that get a v2 EX if enough aftershocks are procc'd

Can't believe we finally got an actual flattie for body type 02 and yet you're complaining

no shityabi no shillxuan no problem

>>532617847
Miyabi basically had 2 bosses designed to shill her for the last 6 months. can you blame them?

>>532618038
She's not good enough.

>>532606450 (OP)
I guess I'm not losing my shitter status just yet

>>532617453
You get all A ranks for free eventually so I don't count them.

>>532618029
I would rather wait one more day and actually have the kit and animations instead of listening to a leaker that magically got all the info now that she got dripped.

>>532617847
cope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McQYnFABQ04

>>532617847
Miyabi kit is extremely flawed. She basically completely relies on teammates wheelchairing her with anomalies or she's completely worthless.
Miyabi should be thankful Soukaku and Yuzuha exists to carry her disgusting boylike body across the finish line.
Meanwhile Yi Xuan literally needs nothing other than 1 fat panda skill.

>>532606450 (OP)
lovely toes

>>532617957
>I think you aren't giving meebs enough credit,
I missed out on the Miyabi shill period so I never experience her prime. She's just a solid dps, i probably got baited into missing out for the first 6 months and all the shilling the community does so I overrated her in my head.

>>532618038
She's ok but I would have preferred a real plugsuit, plus there's still the issue of the robot looking every bit as bad as always.

ngl the EN VA voice choices recently has been pretty lackluster

>>532617831
aren't rabbits herbivores

>>532618087
>>532616687
>>532617115
>>532617186
OH NO NO NO MIYABI CHADS LOT LIKE THIS

>>532618039
Respect for still using Seth for Jane. I still do the same with Yanagi

>>532606679
Everyone who's /fit/ is gay.

>>532617918
prove it

>>532618039
you have GRIDS

>>532617917
Je suis monte !

>>532618029
I'm not claiming you are conflicting with the leaker I'm talking about the anons post vs your post

>>532618087
build your slowkaku im begging you

who?

>>532618039
no points either lole

>>532618186
That's like complaining that the choice of paper rolls in the toilets at your local McDonald's is not up to your standards.

Every patch i want to kill myself even more for rolling sanby. I can't believe they fucked her over even more. There's no silver lining.

>>532617186
Caesar never had value. She's always been trash.
Anti interruption is useless in a game where if you're not retarded, you can just iframe or dodge literally everything with basically no dps loss.

>>532618215
Based Seth bro. I've been using Jane/Seth/Nicole ever since 1.1
it's my comfort team

>>532618314
I got all the rewards though

>>532618231
I played without Lighter for months and used filler for the Eve + Astra team.

>>532618252
Kek

>>532618186
Alice has been great for the screams but Yuzuha and Seed suck. Only Jufufu was great.

>>532618335
she'll be good once s rank billy and s rank nicole get released

>build team for character that needs Disorders to work without any way to reliably trigger Disorder
>it performs badly
>blame character
Are people really unable to read or are you just baiting.

>>532618305
xittertrannies really be thinking they're the majority of anything lol

I hate Shitkaku and I'm not using her with Miyabi.

>>532606450 (OP)
Seed seems to be pagbait. That's another skip for me, only Orpheus in sight now for my Sanby/Toriga team

>>532618335
>There's no silver

>>532606450 (OP)
holy sex

>>532618353
Most people, including me are retarded though.
also be fair even without the shield she had the attack buff and essentially let you cheese tower becasue we had no healers.

>>532618443
bluds expecting their charged basic to do 20k da score

>>532618305
Despir being a minority of spenders in ZZZ, the amricans sure are the loudest and most entitled ones.

>>532618353
It's funny. Caesar's kit would be extremely useful in the rotationslop games like Genshin and Wuwa but it's useless in an action game.

>>532618230
Lose weight fatass

>>532606450 (OP)
is mihoyo just allergic to plugsuits????

>>532618087
>18k
>with Miyabi / Nicole
You are a shitter.

>>532618353
Caesar made sense when characters didn't have infinite i-frames and hyper armor built into their longer animations.

>>532618510
What does China think of SEED?

>>532618502
>we had no healers
we have two healers in the game and one is free

>>532618353
>She's always been trash
I don't think I'd reach far in towers without her

After a bit more extensive testing, Alice is basically a better designed Miyabi.

Is it me or does EN Seed sound like fucking Paimon?

>>532617626
He's definitely not Astra-tier, he's like Nicole-sidegrade. He's usually worse than her for me but he scored barely higher last cycle on Miasma Priest since she doesn't need to be stunned faster so I do use him still. The buff is solid but he contributes like zero daze and no good WEngine hurts his overall support capabilities versus someone like Nicole.

>>532617353
I do not think there is a stronger ~3 cost team in the game than M0R1 Miyabi+M0R0 Yuzuha (or Lycaon, still extremely strong still for a 2cost). You're going to be extremely hard pressed to find a 3 cost team that can kill a DA stage on element, much less completely off-element. Yanagi is very strong at low cost too but I don't see her mauling other DA bosses outside her element like mono-ice Miyabi does.
.

>>532618443
>"Miyabi doesn't need a team she is the team"
>"Miyabi is the best dps in the game the only one who is close is Yixuan"
>"Miyabi is a free 20k"
So all of that was a lie and she's like everyone else, build a full premium team or bust.You can get 20k if you skill check and reset a bunch with shitter substitutes.

>>532616687
no, you're just bad

>>532618559
I mean who are you talking about? did they exist when tower was released?

>>532618559
>we have two healers in the game and one is free
...who's the free one?

>>532618335
ok
my M1W1 SAnby still clears but she deserves a buff
fuck Sneed

>>532618605
Miyabi only needs Soukaku and Lycaon, both free shitters to easily break 20k.

>>532618605
>Soukaku and Lycaon is a premium team
Ok you are just trolling now.

>>532618353
>interruptions
>iframes
Actual retard. Caesar brings to the table 1000 ATK, 25% damage bonus and hyperarmor. You don't use her to hide behind a shield.

>>532618353
>t. Miyabi/YX user
You are shit at the game you fucking bellend

>>532618605
Nope
Miyabi is pretty much a granted 20k
If you cannot make her work on a team, either your team is retarded or you are and cannot play for shit.
And I say that in the most polite way possible.

>>532615734
I think it would have been a lot better if they went with a plug suit since that's expected from mecha pilots, her face and hair are alright but i don't know what they were going for with her clothes.

>>532618656
Here's the thing with /zzz/ they don't even realize she has 3 buffs but they shit on her because they don't know how to play her right.

>>532618605
is an s0 copy of an old unit really premium?

>>532618335
They buffed Ellen, what makes you think they aren't going to buff her too eventually?

>>532616220
He isn't (You). You're his cuckold, cameraman.

>>532618169
Reruns are never really worth it imo.

I regret pulling for "bring me butcher/bringer or I retire" shiyabi

>>532618656
Big deal. Those buffs are meh. Soukaku can give that attack and the dmg bonus requires you to waste time with her shit counters or horrible ass ultimate.

>>532618567
>towers
>plural
She was invaluable in the old tower. But the new towers are easy mode. There's checkpoints every 10 floors, healing, etc. Plus the "no damage" bonus is actually "no hit" bonus, so the shield doesn't provide a safety net there.

>>532618294
I've been meaning to, Yuzuha findommed all my Zenless shekels though

>>532618353
>game where if you're not retarded
Relying on iframes is retarded

Just saw SEED drip marketing and as an unbiased player this is my opinion
>feet are a fetish but should’ve given her those sandals
>calf/thigh jiggle is hot
>her face looks boring and NPC like, could’ve designed her face/outfit better
>the robot looks mid

>>532618656
>she brings these bonuses that are barely better than what a Lucy+ball can offer

>>532618781
everything about Seed just fucking SUCKS
they need to rework their everything

>like alice
>dont have vivian/burnice/yanagi
>just started on 2.0
i got yuzuha. i dunno if i can use her on my team, the only anomalies agent i got is fucking grace and piper

>>532618335
Guess the anons that didn't pull for/never liked Sanby for various reasons are feeling pretty vindicated right now.

Don't care. Will roll Seed. Will roll Orphie. Will use them with my Soldier 11 and Silver Anby.
You all keep seething.

>>532618820
this

>>532618353
>Caesar never had value. She's always been trash.
Here we go. It's the classic elitists neet who kill the games playerbase.

>>532618656
Now look at what Astra, Yuzuha or even Soukaku gives you. Caesar is fucking terrible.

>>532618305
Hoyo should just abandon EN dubs. Worst people in the community are dubsloppers

>>532618781
She looks like a Genshin NPC unironically
She feels like she's gonna say "Mhh, I was sent by the Oceanids to read Chang the Ninth's novel..."

>>532618781
99% of her drip marketing is her feet anyways, nobody put focus on her face and overall design which is concerning

>>532616283
chinks are repulsed by coolness
they only like overdesigned slop girls
pagchinks are no different

>>532618631
Brickby doesn't even let you hang out with her
fuck me why did I roll this low effort character...

Feet

>>532618656
>Caesar brings to the table 1000 ATK, 25% damage bonus
How do you trigger those buffs?

>>532616150
>3/4
waltzslop instead of 6/8 slow-rock ballad? EZ skip

>>532618749
Did SAnby Trigger even get new kits for Hollow Zero? They stopped giving old characters these since 2.0.

>>532618847
how are you gonna use 4 characters at the same time

>>532618831
Just like Jane she'll do fine even with some random support taped on, Assault is an anomaly that's theoretically fine with or without a Disorder partner. Her best team will probably involve one still, but you won't feel like she's inert until then.

obol are a bunch of shitters

>>532618870
Power creep in gachas is a fact. Caesar brings a whole fucking lot, considering she's not a dedicated support.
Chances are in a year there will be some new hyperbuffers released, and you'll be shitting on Astra the same way.

>>532618946
>1000 ATK
have a shiled
>25% damage bonus
perfect assist or just hold attack button

>>532616663
>possibly S rank Billy
wheres you get this info?

Just wait for Chinatsu bros

>>532618335
Sanby is probably the one time I regret pulling for a unit in the this entire game.
Because not only did we get a shit unit, she wasn't needed. you could play harumasa.
you don't even get new social interactions with sanby.
no walking in the hollow or new events talking about her history or even new polychrome it was so fucking lazy.
owning two versions of the same character should have oppened up a depper level of intimacy or atleast make new hangouts for the new character but nope.
fucking lazy assholes, gave a shit character with less features than a normal character, actually FUCK them. ACTUALLY FUCK MIHOYO SO MUCH FOR THIS SHIT I FUCKING HATE THEM.

>>532618976
Seed is 2 characters.

>oh you're doing DA that ranks you based on how much dmg output you can deal in 2 minutes,
>puts a boss that has 30-40 seconds invul and top-up with a shield that only rapture characters can easily break
who the fuck designed this boss and put it on a timer based endgame content?!

Should I ever be spending Residual Signals on anything other than more pulls?

No matter how much you spam it
I'd rather use Caesar with a shit cope bull than m6w5 Soukaku

>>532618335
>>532618631
I'm doubling down and rolling her her engine this time + Orphie and hers. Fuck Sneed and whoever decided to rug pull her, I'll make her work if I have to.

I just wonder why women and gay dudes keep loitering in a community for a game that has never, ever catered to them, and has not shown any signs of changing this direction. You'd think they'd learn after a year of the same treatment.

Sanby and Caesar are the biggest bricks in the game.

>>532619040
>burst+off-field team for Miasmic Fiend
I'm not sure how Attack or Anomaly coded that boss, but I'm pretty sure this team comp just doesn't work in any situation.

>>532618972
LOL

>>532619097
add brickyi to that list

>>532619040
>Cutie who still plays Zhu
Did you get your free 5k points on the Zoo team? dodging in that boss invulnerability period was the easiest 5k for me.

Obol bricks are all filler scams, never pull for them
They don’t even have agent stories

>>532619097
I still clear with ease

>>532606450 (OP)
her calves jiggle.. i kneel zzzgod

>>532619026
>4-6 months
this is nothing
i've been waiting since launch, with no proof of them ingame

>>532616687
>play miyabi
>no other anomaly for disorder
>not even using yuzuha to help caesar build up physical anomaly for disorder
>sharkboo
yikes

>>532619040
try equipping a wengine

Does Sneed replace Sanby or Orpheus in the Aftershock team?

>Human pilot
Yeah i'm saving for the idols.

>>532619028
Totally this. She was the biggest scam on this game. No character was treated as badly as her.

>>532618870
>>532618794
>>532618763
Can you guys even get 33K against Pompey with
Lucy Jane, Burnice?
I will even lt you us Soukaku.
Show me in your hoyolab.

>>532619093
Being loud and obnoxious retards is their whole personality, they need attention more than the air they breathe.

>>532619026
>hes waiting for an A rank

>>532619175
She wouldn't dance like that. She would do floss.

I want to run hypercarry Jane with Caesar and Yuzuha, I hope they update her passive

>>532619097
>Sanby
The only M1 I have because I was "building pity" like a retard. 4 star copies are easy to get in this game unlike Genshin.

>>532619040
Honestly compared to miasama priest, I love miasmic feind. feels like I'm playing a world of warcraft boss.

Never thought of this but i suddenly got a question.
Do they voice bangboos in different languages? If not is chinese voice the original voice for bangboos?

>Seed is off field aftershock FUA
Orphie and Seed and Trigger are the team
Why tf would you create a mech but make them off field aftershock FUA

>My Rat Burnice team that got 36k+ last DA is now only doing 26k because the boss has fire resistance
Burnice bros...this shit isn't fair.

>mfw people act like not clearing DA is a brick
oh my god, imagine missing out on not even 2 pulls a fortnight.

>>532617115
put yuzuha before vivian, thank me later

here we go agian

>>532619206
We don't know.

>show off SEED's feet in the teaser
>you'll never see them in game because she's in a mech the whole time
Stop toebaiting me

>>532619282
Can't you retards read? She's not off field.

>>532619028
Sanby really opened my eyes about how truly lazy ZZZ devs can and will be
it's fucking disgusting and now people mostly just forget about it

>>532619282
Sanby gives massive buffs to Aftershock tho. I think Orpheus is the one that's getting replaced especially since Sanby, SEED, Trigger will be mono electro.

>>532619206
Orphie by the look of it, which is kinda bizarre and makes you wonder what exactly they're planning since releasing two units that do the same exact thing within the same patch is unprecedented.

>>532619097
Sanby is fine. Qingyi and Ceasar are the only truly bad one. Burnice as until a new off field anomaly before joining the list.

We still vet to play as the male personality mech in combat right? She's just a proxy/pilot for it so they dont have to figure out how to make the mech fit in the overworld, right?

Why is there no simple method of screenshotting cool wipeout screens, I hate that I have to manually do it as it flashes really fast.

Also SEED looks like shit lol, fuck feetfags.

>>532619345
She’s off field with burst DPS when enough FUA’s are accumulated
She’s dual DPS with Orphie

>>532619062
some agent's M6s give nice new abilities, like lucy's (especially if paired with piper)
the rolls are worth more since they have a chance for S / bring you closer to pity, but if you really really like the A agent and intent to use them, then go for it. alternatively i think they can give you agents you don't have for completionism, but not sure if it's dupes only
you definitely don't need the S balls

>>532619093
>only women and gays are upset at this genshin tier design

>>532619297
fire weak pompey is still there but it's shilling crit attackers though

>>532619372
Since electric and fire often have opposing weakness/resistances Orphie seems just weird to me. Can you even use her with Evelyn?

>>532619339
She'll have her feet out when you walk around sixth street

>>532619469
You're really bad at disguising yourself, I hope you understand.

>>532619345
She's not strictly off-field, but supposedly she needs to stack assist follow-ups. So she's like an old Defender agent, i.e. she wants to come onto the field with a Defensive Assist. Which you can only do from off-field. Unless, maybe, QA follow-ups count too. Then it can be some sort of quickswap team. But still, to swap in, you need to swap out first.

>>532619412
Did you not see the clip where the robot's ultimate rocket spam has Girl Seed's wiggling toes filling up half the screen?

I'm not even joking.

>>532619412
hopefully the same as firefly where SAM is always used for fights

>>532619432
>you definitely don't need the S balls
What if I don't own any good engine for a character otherwise?

>>532619218
33k score is low with a 3 cost team, if you paypigged for any of their balls it's downright terrible.

My burnice caesar piper team is still unbeatable, you guys just suck dicks at this game

>>532619206
too early desu

>>532619345
she does attacks from off field

>>532619274
it's the same in every lingo just like churlspeak

>>532619297
>worse than Evelynn teams for anything fire, even on Anomaly Pompey
>bricked for Jane's first phys weak Anomaly boss because fire resist
>every other boss is ice/ether or elec/ether making Vivian even further ahead
It's actually kind of tragic.

>>532619494
apparently there are new enemies with fire+electro weakness

>>532618335
You don't deserve your Sanby ye of little faith

I was gonna pull Seed but I don’t wanna see feet everytime I ult so I’m not gonna roll. Sorry, I just am not into that disgusting fetish

I finally got every fortune from temple dog. I can finally go back to six street dog where I've never once got the golden poo thing. Weird how one happened in less than 2 patches and the other hasn't happened in a year

Seed was our last hope to revive the Defender class.

Now all hope is gone.

>>532619607
Same xis, my dysphoria spikes when I see women's feet, why were we born in the wrong bodies?

Wait so if I have Sanby and Trigger, I have to roll SEED to salvage the team?

>>532619592
Which will just make me use either Yanagi+Burnice or Evelyn+Trigger.

>>532619339
bro, that's her ultimate

>>532619523
I don't own Lighter or Hugo bro

>>532619607
Most people aren't.

I really don't understand what the fuck there were thinking. Bare feet is one thing, but this was all but thrusting them in your face repeatedly.

I personally can't wait to see Seed's gameplay.

I just learned that brits are no longer allowed to post. Very sad day for our britsisters...

I actually pulled SAnby to run her with Trigger even though she wasn't that good but gave up on the team after seeing Trigger be effectively a 3 cost unit by herself on top of SAnby being mediocre

>>532618335
>have Sanby
>have Trigger
I'm not seeing the problem, this game's endgame meta is a joke so why bother getting sweaty about it?

>>532619416
Been putting that on the surveys but they're not fucking listening!
I have so many cool unexpected wipeout that i failed to capture.

>>532619632
Good, they always felt like a weird and clunky classification to force a MMO trinity upon the game. Just merge the Defender role with the Attacker role.

>>532619560
>33k score is low
Stop dodging.

You were bragging about Soukaku and Lucy being better, I want to see what your bragging amounts to in the end.
Show me your Pompey score with
Soukaku Jane, Burnice.
Lucu Jane, Burnice.

>>532619712
test

>>532619712
it's so over bros I'm not sure how where I'm going to discuss video games

>>532619774
Please, Jesus. I would love to be able to slap an Attack Engine on Ben.

>>532606450 (OP)
They know that bare anime feet is the only thing that could possibly tempt me to roll for a design that shitty.

>>532606450 (OP)
>Already had a limited fire stunner
>Proceeds to release a new one anyway
>Already had a limited phys anomaly DPS
>Proceeds to release a new one anyway
>Already had a limited electric attacker
>Proceeds to release a new one anyway
>All of this overlap one year into the game
Truly showing time and time again why they are the most inept retarded dev team of the high profile gacha games. Idk how they don't feel ashamed to show their faces online, i would if i was them.
I can only imagine the sad state of this game in a year from now.

>>532619632
Caesar is still the Queen of defenders.

>>532618870
>Astra,
What if I don't have her?
>Yuzuha
For team number 2
>or even Soukaku
lmaaao

>>532619712
im still here though bit miffed janitorai is now blocked though

>>532619717
>Trigger be effectively a 3 cost unit by herself
What?

>>532619573
FUCKING KINO

Imagine barging into SEED's mech and tickling her feet haha

>>532619632
Geuinely what was their thought process with Defender?

>>532619632
really might as well remove defend and attacker class from the game they serve no purpose

>>532619853
Were you also not rolling for SEED until you saw cute feet?

>>532619942
What was their thought process with a lot of this game? They were just trying shit and seeing what worked. I dont think they really anticipated what the meta for this game would look like.

>>532619861
all this overlap is good though. it gives you more time to save for something you really need if you already have the previous unit of the same type.

>>532619546
you still don't need 'em
go to the engine shop on 6th street and pick up whatever you like from there. can even max them out since it just costs energy

>>532619942
Ben and Caesar are the only ones who make sense as Defender, because their gameplay involves counters. Seth and Pan Yinhu should have been Support.

Any belle roleplayer here, who would be her go to faction or agents if she was a straight normal woman?

skipped Jane
skipping Alice
using Piper while I wait for S Rank Billy Physical Rupture

>>532619218
based believer shutting up the shitposters non believers and tweet deleters

>>532618530
>lose weight
>go from skinnyfat to underweight skeleton
>become for 2spooky4anon and he dies
I stay winning.

>>532619861
notice how they only replace universally hated characters

>>532619901
The only good defender unit honestly.
>>532619632
When we get the second wave of Sons of calydon units. it'll all change.
Rupture Lucy
A rank thiren jobber
Defender Big daddy
trust the plan.

>>532619930
Trigger without M1 and her engine is an A rank character

>>532619712
Britbong here, Can you adopt me

>>532620025
Victoria Housekeepers so she can take the knot

Your russian melty sir

>>532619712
that notice is a troll post
but they might be blocked in around 10 hours, we will see

Fuck Bros...WuWa new story was legit good...they dropped the chink wank and finally got on track while ZZZ took a nosedive

reminder Ellen herself put this sign here so she could nap on the rocks in peace

>>532619632
DPS Caesar with mini nuke parries and bosses that reward parries instead of defensive assists would've been a better path for the defender class than shields, EX counters, and being a glorified support.

mibibi works on my machine

>>532620056
S-Rank Billy and Nicole are all i have on the horizon since Belobog probably aren't going to get upgrades.

>>532620123
>WuWa new story was legit good
No one including /wuwa/ says this btw lmao

>>532620113
>statistically 15% of these posters will be drafted by this time next year
BASED

>>532620113
>>532620196
the only ones melting here are you, faggots

>>532616891
>>532615734
Whatever she is, it's a combination of everything bad from Genshin, HSR, and Wuwa only lazily slapped with foot fetish.

Waterkuma resorted to AI. How the mighty has fallen.

I wish I could join this shitposting but I don't even have 3 teams yet

I guess it works.

>when you used to believe a Cunning Hare would become a Void Hunter one day but it will Belle/Wise now

>>532620167
Soukaku + Penguinboo carry

>>532620151
Defenders should be brawlers who rely on rhythmic countering of the boss's attacks with their own attacks rather than parrybots or shieldbots.

>>532620254
Not a mizubear design

>>532619789
NTA but how is anybody supposed to show you a comparison when the DA boss lineup just changed? The current Pompey is completely different.

>>532606450 (OP)
I'm supposed to replace Anby, literally my fav agent in the game, with this ugly thing that looks like a Potemkin with dwarfism for 99% of the combat?
Nah.

>>532619712
We're still her but we're probably getting blocked soon.
>>532619929
time to start using a VPN bwo it's the only way. all AI websites are going to be blocked becasue the overhead is too much.

>>532620294
TRVKE

>>532620113

>>532620327
Roll for the newest chinkslop gweilo

>>532620190
everyone including reddit and x is saying its peak 10/10 bro

>>532619712
>UK is getting blocked
>Itch.io is removing all porn games
>AI slop running rampant
The internet is just getting worse and worse

I don't know how to explain it but Seed deson't look like a ZZZ character

>>532620327
I wanted actual Potemkin and they gave us fucking Firefly without the rizz.

>>532620327
That's Sanby's bis teammate retard.

>>532620316
Give me your best
Soukaku Jane, Burnice.
Lucu Jane, Burnice.
and I will try to beat it with Caesar.

>>532620429
Seed the robot or Seed the loli?

>>532620251
Uh oh meltdown is imminent

>>532620465
the loli

>>532615564
>female mech/female driver
Female mech/male driver. Nothing better than an AI that act likes a girlfriend to (you). We had this kino 20 years ago and I don't think ZZZ devs are that based for that.

them not releasing manato in the yuzuha / alice banners means that he's better suited in obol.
considering that trigger and feetd are meant for ssanby (all electric), that implies that orphie and manato are meant for soldier 11 (all fire)

>>532620429
She should have been a greasy mechanic loli like Piper instead of this trash.

>>532620429
Meh, people always say this.

>Seeing character for first time
>Imagine what they'd sound like

if pic rel in JP isnt this, I will be disappointed nevertheless

>>532619306
This

>"dude you cant make a robot character, that's way too niche"
>"anyways here's a feet fetish character"
I want her to flop out of pure spite. It helps that they cheaped out and forgot to make SEED's bottom half look good.

>>532620459
>heh, I get to use my agents using their wengines and possibly even cinemas
>you have to use these specific combos!!!
nigger go to bed already it's way past your bed time.

Is Resident Evil an inspiration for the story of this game? So many similar elements.

>>532620424
>Itch.io is removing all porn games
WAIT WHAT? AM I TOO LATE TO GET THEM?

>>532620113
Seed looks like a bad joke. Why did Waterkuma give her that ugly auntie hair? She doesn't need that ahoge? Why not a plugsuit? Why those things on her breasts?
>GAAAAAAAHHHHH THIS DESIGN DOESN'T WORK
>THAT'S IT JUST PUT AN EMPHASIS ON HER BARE FEET

Is Trigger bricked without her ball?

>>532620572
she is definitely going to be extremely smug

We lost HARD

im just a chill guy

>>532620123
Reddit and twitter and probably some YouTubers are going make videos about it. Wuwa story has legit grown.

>>532620619
Resident Evil 5 and 6 maybe, considering how bad the Exaltists are written.

>>532620638
Sorry I mispoke, they're all delisted, not removed. Only 1 has gotten removed so far IIRC.

>>532620491
Not enough black colors and bold text in her outfit maybe? which is fine. My only complaint is she doesn't really look like OBOL like Trigger/S11

>>532620572
>Imagine what they'd sound like
comical or motherly

Showed up just to give you all the fell for it again award
When will you learn Hoyo will do it every single time and will continue to do it

>>532620551
True. She looks like she's wearing a wuwa or hsr dress

Just woke up, SEED got announced? Can anyone give me the rub down?

>>532620615
>>you have to use these specific combos!!!
Your side was bragging about Lucy and Soukaku being better options ovr Caesar.

Why are you chickening out? I'm issueing a fair challnge based on your claims.

>>532620449
Orpheus is already so good with Sanby I'm having a hard time believing SEED can be on the same level, unless they've somehow released two characters to be Sanby's 3rd best teammate on both electric weak fire resistance, fire weak and electric weak enemies.

So on some level SEED either has to have nothing to do with aftershocks, has to overlap with Sanby, or is going to pair well with some character we don't know about yet instead of Orpheus.

>>532620572
The JP voice actors were revealed already. You can start being disappointed already.

>>532620727
I just read the blog update, seems like the writing is on the wall. thanks I gotta find a way to buy some games.

>>532620760
Sexo hebe.

I'm pretty sure most shitter here play Caesar as a DPS and not a shield/perfect assist reset because you cannot convince her buffs are bad.

>>532620760
Yeah. Everybody is mad. Also, no leak because the beta isn't complete.

>>532620572
She's definetly not going to be playable. Would they just make a whole new model type just for her?

>>532620190
Wuwa story is made for grown men.
ZZZ story is made for teenage kids that are into edgy shounen slop, it's nothing more than surface level story telling with 0 actual stakes that jumps all over the place thematically because the devs have no idea wtf to do with anything related with their game since day 1.

>>532620727
wo~w, i just check and it's true
way to brick your whole platform

Seed is actually one of the slowest-liked agents in JP Twitter. Usually they already reach 50k minimum at this point.

>>532620751
>Only knew of Pekomom all this time, figured it was a random hentai character
>Never knew Pekora was even a thing

>>532620917
They dont have a choice, blame credit card companies and the christfags who reported them.

>>532620409
It's a genuine good story and gives a lot of depth to the player character. Can't say the same about zzz and this cult crap and chink shit they have been shoving since the anniversary.

IT’S OUT

>>532620760
>hebe
>FEET
>optimus prime VA for the robot

>>532620910
She'll be Damian's summon/onahole like the racoon and boars.

>>532620760
straightchads won
feetfags won
pedos won
faggots dead in a ditch

>>532620615
You know what Pompey said, "Standing your ground is good but not knowing when to back off is disrespectful" or something like that.
SOUKAKU AND LUCY ARE IN NO WAY BETTER THAN CAESAR

>>532620917
i was actually hooked on some games there im coping rn
is there anywhere they migrated?

>>532620790
Huh

who is it?

>just realized I was using the rupture buff for my Miyabi team all this time
I'M A FUCKING RETARD

>>532620910
>>532621021
Male + female in one unit will be the norm. Damian & Zhao will be their unit name.

>a 4th electric attacker
Who is this for

>>532620667
Kilo is a cutie, sadly she rarely leaves the mech
hope that won't be the case for our girl

>>532620282
Nekomata will be a void hunter at some point. Plot makes Nicole near dead (we can't have real deaths) and Nekomata goes through a falling to dark plot, where she goes over corpses (largely TOPS) and getting half corrupted, just for PROXY to save her in the last moment after she took her revenge.
She becomes a lonely outlaw after due to all the stuff she caused, afraid of her own (corruption based) powers she obtained, until they figure out a way to hard control these powers similar to the PROXY. To make up, she'll join the Yunkui Summit until Nicole recovers and drags her back. ("not using such powers to earn money is unthinkable!")

Sorry guys, I started working at ZZZ a month ago, that's why all the girls have green eyes now.

>Feetdom is the right of all sentient beings.

>>532621000
congrats anon.
enjoys the goons

>>532620510
This.

>>532620572
She has Satania/Jahy va.

How many fingers do you guys use to jerk off? I only use thumb and index and it makes me kinda self-conscious...

>>532620935
Moved your goalpost from "nobody likes her" to "slowest likes" sis.

>>532620510
Zone of the Enders 2 was such fucking kino but they would never deliver something like that.

>using Yuzuha's parry against the new boss for the miasma pool phase instead of dodge
Jesus I feel retarded for not thinking of this

https://x.com/zenzero_GW/status/1948677102515224889

>>532620935
you dont bait the land of mecha lovers with feet

>>532619632
Okay, listen, but what if...

>>532620449
SAnby is the agent in the game that wants the most field time possible, Trigger/Orpheus are her teammates, there's 0 room to replace Yrigger with an agent with more field time than her since SAnby wants to spam dodge counters to maximize her DPS.
SEED is just going to end up another blatant powercreep to an agent that isn't even 1 year old, the same thing they are doing with Alice and Rata.

>>532620510
Yup. Mihomo don't understand /m/

Is Sanby finally going to be Tier 0 with Oprhie and SEED???

>>532621169
You know what, not bad

I'll allow it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR6Z_Rq7WjI

>>532621081
>hold basic enjoyers

>>532619861
they should just stop releasing characters once we have one of each type you're right

>>532620910
cairn is right there

>>532621331
Hell no SEED is Sanby's direct powercreep lmao

>>532621261
That's actually pretty cool.

>>532620510
>>532621162
>>532621221
I hope Fairy is a cutie AI in the future.

Orpheus = Asuka
Seed = Rei

>>532619709
Same, i am beyond excited for a character for once.

>>532620113
I mean this without joking: I think Russians are the gayest national demographic on the planet. Like, Californians are gay, but even they don't approach the intense lust and veneration for the male form that Russians do.

>>532621086
>Gayton
>Gayrumasa
>Brickby
I have zero electric DPS.

>rolled Jane
>rolled Zhu Yuan
>rolled Sanby
I love my bricks

>>532621219
I'm laughing at the fact that ZZZ devs expected Seed to blow up like Firefly by delaying her info, drip, and beta gameplay only for her to fizzle out with less than 1/5th of Firefly's reveal likes. Firefly got 180k likes after only 4 hours. https://x.com/houkaistarrail/status/1782624133102326237 meanwhile Seed is struggling to break 35k after 7 hours. https://x.com/ZZZ_JP/status/1948594419198033958

No matter how you look at it, cloning Firefly was a bad idea. Read the comments under Seed JP post.

>>532621281
last hoyogame with style change was hi3

>>532620769
fire enemies reisist electric just wait for the beta update

>>532621074
https://twitter.com/ZZZ_JP/status/1912038168876253389
Oozora Naomi

>>532621331
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLL
KEK LMAO

>yi xuan is a better parrier
>astra is a better support
Seriously what use is Caesar??? Not good at DPS and can't even run support balls?

Preist and the new boss feel pretty fun
Imo the only badly designed boss in the game so far is still bringer

>>532621523
Bro your Yanagi?

>>532621086
should be me but I don't have any of the other OBOLs so I guess I'm still gonna bruteforce with Grace/neutral element

>>532620986
>christfags
i'm a christian and the ones who want to censor speech are the leftoids
>credit card companies
i contacted itch years ago and told them to put up a crypto payment option
looks like they chose to shoot themselves in the head instead
>>532621070
it looks like you can still access them from the dev account
https://akabur.itch.io/
i'm unaware of another website quite like itch, no

>>532621183
I use my left hand when I'm right handed, for some reason. In fact, it's really helpful.

>>532621523
>metafagging in a mobile game
low T

>>532621518
as opposed to westerners venerating "twinks" and the like?

>>532621547
Why don' you cherrypick those comments and post them here one by one again for me like you did earlier, xister?

>>532621547
>implying ZZZ devs weren't forced to comply

Should I get Yanagi or Seed for my electric coverage?
I have SAnby but I don't think anything can save her at this point

>>532620523
Lighter released between Yanagi and Miyabi but he doesn't really work with them

>>532621547
The trick here is to not care about what people do but rather about what you like
Back when I played HSR I found firefly to be a boring piece of shit outside of having a cool mech so if SEED ends up the same I won't roll, if she is an actual cool character then I will, simple as

>>532621570
the phase change not deducting time as well as it being super easy to hit 5k points is really nice, compared to bosses like butcher where if your doing good damage its impossible to trigger dodges for 5k score because boss gets constantly anomaly/stunned

>>532621406
I dont think that model will fit her

>>532621645
At this point you need to cherrypick to find a positive comment under that post

>>532621464
Fairy stopped being a relevant character ages ago so hope is not high
Part of why I fell off in tandem with the retarded cult and cultivating proxies shit

Chink devs will never understand how to make mechakino.

>>532620914
>wuwa story is for grown men
KEKIPOW

>>532621547
It's not even cloning. She had no build up in-game whatsoever and suddenly got dripped and the only reaction you can expect is "who?" She won't even be that relevant in her release story. Devs have no idea how to sell a character.

>>532621169
Holy shit, now I NEED to roll.

>feet gonna need both orphie AND trigger
what do?

>>532621732
So it'd be easier to post the negatives here right? Feel free to do so xis.

>4chan likes her
>reddit likes her
Guess I'm going to be in the minority with the rest of the taste-havers but Seed looks like generic gacha slop. Makes it easier to skip her for Orpheus though.

>>532621660
seed is most likely meant exactly for saving ssanby, but we don't know her kit yet
yanagi won't really work well with ssanby, she wants another anomaly and a support

Just pulled miyabi and her weapon. Could you guys post stats that I should aim for?

>>532621682
Firefly is literally the best written HSR character, schizo.

>>532620572
Sorry bro Satomi Arai voices Rina already

>>532621660
depends on what supports you have

>>532621547
I don't think ZZZ was ever popular, and its still doing fine anyway.

>>532620948
I knew about Pekora I thought people had just invented a hag version of her to jerk off to

>>532621547
>What if we made Firefly again
>But this time both the mech and waifu are ugly
Bravo zoodevs.

>>532621830
Astra and Yuzuha but I'd probably have to wait for Vivian's rerun before I could use Yanagi as anything more than a Miyabi slave

I don't think Sanby is that bad I've seen some 40k+ miasma DA scores with her best team here
you just gotta roll their sigs and intended teammates

>>532621136
KINO
I
N
O

>>532621783
While it's true that they didn't give her any build up, she's getting less engagement than previous literal whos.

>>532621634
Yes. Because the west can only support when the male looks and behaves like a female. Russians love big, beefy, manly guys. That's gayer.

>>532620914
>actually pulled the sad backstory to justify her being with the bad guys
>the character actually tried to commit genocide
>community is actually eating it up
WuWajeets genuinely need to play some other games. This is embarrassing

>>532621825
>its true

wtf I didnt even notice, she's got some range, kashira

>>532621783
>She won't even be that relevant in her release story
Yea what's up with that? Isn't Seed supposed to be the face of 2.2?

>>532621929
Anon, if a character doesn't allow you to "press B to win", then its a brick according to /zzz/.

>>532621913
They also decided to
A) not give her any presence in the 2.x story
B) saddled her with a niche fetish bait ult
C) put her into an already cluttered archetype

I dont really see this having a big splash.

>>532621261
based

I don't play shart rail, but didn't Firefly actually have hype before revealing it was a girl? As in, robot appeared in the story and did cool stuff. SEED hasn't done anything.
>wow this robot that had 5 lines of dialogue while standing around is actually a girl
who cares?

Did Ellen's buff actually make players regularly use her again?

>>532621812
>stats that I should aim for?
Pen Ratio in Disc 5.

In theory 2-piece Puffer Electro with high-end substats is the best.
But in practice, 2-piece Woodpecker is easier to build and gets you to 80% Crit rate mor easily.

4 piece Branch&Sword

>>532621812
80% CR and 130% CD
build soukaku for ice mono

>>532621331
Why anyone thinks they would make two on field electric aftershock attackers and make their support an off field fire aftershock attacker is beyond me.

>>532622105
They didn't even bother hiding the fact that she is a girl. She is 100% a secondary character.

>>532622105
In HSR you actually fight the robot before the reveal happens eventually.

>>532622117
it must have
her videos get millions of views

>>532622105
Yeah both SAM and Firefly were built up as actual characters. Like, we fought SAM as a boss in 2.0 months before Firefly's banner even came out, and we spent multiple patches with her involved in the plot.

I dont know why they keep fucking up the OBOL faction this hard.

>>532621396
>parry ex swap enjoyer

>>532622117
I never stopped playing her

>>532622117
no Miyabi still shits on her

Sometimes I wonder why they don't make a male and female character at the same time. Is there a reason they don't do that? If I were a millionaire businessman, they'd have a section dedicated to men and another to women. Each revelation would be a man and a woman.

>>532622105
Sam the robot appears once to figth you before the reveal and that was honestly the coolest thing the character did
ZZZ is very shallow in terms of characters by making everyone lust after the protag's cock but atleast characters have cool personalities while firefly has absolutely nothing going for her except her robot design and being omegabroken on release

>>532622117
lmao not at all, nobody even talks about her anymore because her damage didn't change

SEX SEX SEX

>>532622117
I use her semi-regularly, it mostly depends on the current lineup for DA/SD.

>>532621812
4p blade and song, 2p woodpecker or astral voice/polar metal, and since you got her signature w-engine you can focus on trying to get 4-cost crit damage and hit 80%ish crit rate with substats

>>532620769
The optimal team is sanby orphie sneed

Trigger is not optimal for sanby

>>532621771
They only know how to copy anime girl designs, but to make content mecha content, you need a SOUL.

>>532622256
If only Grace could get a summer skin

>>532622293
because male banners earn, like, less than half of what female banners earn
hence why they make them A ranks or give them out for free or barely make them at all
if you catered to a non-existent audience you wouldn't be a millionaire businessman for very long

>>532622171
>why anyone would think they would make two on field physical anomalies and make their support an off field physical support is beyond me.

>>532621929
>40k with a 6 cost or higher team
>not that bad

>new Mihoyo game official socials created and beta started soon
>ZZZ devs are ‘behind schedule’ leading to 1 week longer patch
Oh no no no… its finally over

>>532622293
Behind schedule and overworked because they feel inclined to shit out toddler minigames out every patch to distract you from the fact that there is actually just 4 hours of content every 6 weeks.

>>532622437
What are you trying to prove with that graph? Those titles in the middle are extremely successful.

>>532622445
>cost
Only “people” are are going to commit say this

>>532622323
>A rank
>Chinky irrelevant

Being a Clanker is rough these days...

>>532622293
Because women spend jack shit on the game and would prefer to just screech on xitter about the game not catering to them. That's why you're not a millionaire businessman.

ZZZ never fails to have an endless discussion on who is a plain jane and who is a """""character""""""

>>532620459
M0R1 Jane/Burnice, 4cost team. I'm not part of whatever shitflinging you've got going on but just to actually put a number out there.

>>532618353
>Caesar never had value. She's always been trash.
The only character in this game that I regret rolling.

>>532622445
It was against Yixuan's miasma shill boss so it's a pretty good score

>people getting sweaty about DA when all you need is 20k
I dont get it

Seeding all over Seed's feet

>>532622539
Why do they keep releasing new games and giving up on their older ones?

>>532622565
If I'm saving up an entire year for 1 team that team better steamroll content and then suck my dick afterwards

>>532621547
ZZZ doesn't have the same amount of players as HSR or Genshin so I'm not sure how comparing twitter likes (lmao) is supposed to prove anything.

>>532622629
It's 300 measly polys too. Not even 2 pulls.

I get 9 stars easily but who cares?

>>532621809
When I saw her trailer at first I legitimately thought it was for Nikke.
But they already have a better version of this with Kilo so honestly calling it Nikke is disingenuous to Nikke.

>>532621951
retard, people like beefy manly guys because they're useful, they do/ build stuff
meanwhile girly men are only good for degeneracy, which seems like you're projecting

>>532622020
This game is surface level like that for everything really, this is why i'm dropping it the moment AP comes out. Everything just feels stale and forced these days, playing wuwa 2.5 and Yuzuha/Alice story says everything that needs to be said for me.
The people behind this game already reached the peak they have to offer, i would have more faith in the people behind HI3 than this game atp.
Reminder:
SEED was pretty much in the plot of 2.1 and they did ZERO with her, opting out to using S11 and Trigger just because in their retarded minds its better to keep the fact that SEED is a female, something that was stated multiple times in the game before, than to actually make people give 2 shits about her.
Same shit happened with Vivian/Hugo and their shitty rushed plots, literal who's that show out of nowhere that we are supposed to somehow care about? Meanwhile Anby plot got rushed for it?
Almost 1 hour section of Hugo's mindrape after barely any build up for the character? Who gave a shit about this literal who at that point? Same for Vivian.
Who will give 2 shits about SEED when she's force fed to us nonstop in 2.2?
This game's plot feels as small in scope as the playable tiny areas we get to play around.

>>532622539
KEK, time to work overtime more ZZZ devs

>>532622564
the titles in the center are the minority
the core zzz playerbase (or at least payerbase) is male and straight
should a game made for homosexuals add 50% straight content? should a game made for women add 50% male content? ofcourse not

>>532622747
People need to justify their time/money sink I guess. Just feels pointless, I'm here to jack off not care about the endgame that is designed to get people to fomo swipe.

>>532622347
been grinding for weeks and this is as high as I can get
fucking sucks

>>532622629
for me DA is fun
I often don't even use my stamina anymore but I might reset DA a few times

>>532622893
I think once you decided to appeal to both, you need to be consistent and keep appealing to both.

>>532622731
Twittershitters like that fag use it to shitpost and cope. Even that one homoschizo on /gig/ used to shitpost with itto having more twitter likes than raiden. Guess which went on to become one of the most profitable banners genshin ever had in its history.

>>532622938
Same, I've been sitting at 80/100 and I dont get how the fuck people are hitting 150 CD at all.

no one likes feet anyway

>>532622840
what event is this picture from?

>>532623083
They use poly for battery, whale stats are a thing in every hoyo game and a big reason why low rank clears are always posted on whale accounts

everything is so low effort and ruined...... this FUCKING SUCKS

>>532620657
It's a Genshin Impact design. Compare her to their last character and you'll see it.

>>532622629
I find it fun + if I didn't I feel like I'd be a lot more apathetic about this game. The bar to clear is extremely low, may as well have fun playing with my shiny toys and chase high scores.

>>532622938
>>532623083
And this is why Miyabi is unplayable without her engine
Stop pulling characters if you can't get their engines too

>>532606450 (OP)
>footfaggotry day 1
>trannies somehow got scared
Tourists.

>>532623204
I have her engine, I'm still at 80/100

>>532621136
Funny
I feel these vibes from S11
I think her discipline and straightforwardness will make her climb up the ranks to become a Void Hunter.

>just woke up
>ANOTHER FUCKING ELECTRIC ATTACK

its actually so fucking over for sanby owners. this has legit soured me on the entire game

>>532622938
Are you tuning disks at Bardic Needle, and if so are you doing random tunes or tuning specific slots?

>>532622117
Honestly? Not really, but at least she feels good to play now.

I feel like Seed is going to be Vivian 2.0 where she gets spammed nonstop during her patch and then afterwards /zzz/ tries to pretend it was just trannies forcing her.

>>532623184
Ineffa is much better and you can tell exactly what she's supposed to be, while there is nothing in BabySneed's design that tells you that she pilots an advanced mech for the military.

>>532623184
nah doomsissies here say it's wuwa design.

>>532622293
People will say "because men spend more" but I've had friends and family quit WuWa because of the lack of male characters. Not necessarily because they want to roll male characters (in fact they only roll female ones) but because they are sick and tired of blatant waifupandering that make them feel they are being treated like some nerdy, lonely desperate men. I've been seeing the same problem in ZZZ. We need more Evelyn/Zhu/Qingyi/Yuzuha and less Astra/Vivian/Trigger, desu.

>>532623184
At least Ineffa is an actual fucking robot

>>532622691
ideally, Gacha companies should be making multiple games that specifically panders different audiences, it makes sense. However Mihoyo, since Genshin, keeps making only omni-pander games. HSR is making money, ZZZ is making money. Will it work again? At what point do these games start cannibilzing each other

>>532623289
What's wrong with that? There are like 2 limited Fire Stunner.

>>532622957
at launch there were:
6 female A ranks
3 male A ranks
5 female S ranks (not counting ellen)
1 male S ranks

since launch they have added:
1 female A ranks
2 male A ranks (with manato it would be 3)
15 female S ranks (with alice, orphie and seed it would be 18)
3 male S ranks (haru was free)

ZZZ never has been and never will care to appeal to both
the males are meant as self-inserts. at most they're meant to cater to a very small homosexual / furry section of the playerbase

>>532622117
yeah I use her all the time to clear binger and Shiyu now

>>532622617
simple is best

>>532623320
Tuning specific slots but without calibrators I can go through tens of rolls before even getting the right main stat, much less substats

>>532623289
don't worry, Seed is electric Orphie, you run them together

>>532623519
They need to stay with the initial ratio.

>ackshuallly foot fetishits are deran.....ACK!
Silence failed male, high testosterone = like every single bodypart of a female.
No, shit is not a bodypart, so kys.

Sneed’s auntie hair is moe

Seed's petite body would be complemented well with a large futa cock. Since you guys don't care about her you won't mind if she gets added to the futa list, right?

>>532622957
NTA but games that omni-pander always have a higher rate of females and both demographics are usually fine with. Woman get their male after long saving periods and males get a skip banner after getting drained for months. People that want a 50/50 split are retarded and delusional and I say that as Homoenjoyer.

>>532623630
>Seed is electric Orphie
So what, I need to pull both and swap them around depending on content?

>>532623289
it could still work
ssanby on-field attacker
orphie and seed off-field attackers

Ok, I hope you're all ready for a hard-to-swallow pill:
People shit on Sanby, but she is probably the most fun agent to play with, fairly strong, and is an absolute monster with Trigger by her side.
Furthermore, her story is pretty good, and resulted in S11's lv.4 Trust Event which was ZZZ's peak.
Every time I'm playing with her, it feels like I'm playing a different game - a better one.

What's with the seething about feet, don't we like all women's body parts?

>>532623635
w-what about crystal clear urine...?

>>532623385
I agree, I dropped Genshin last year but I find Ineffa alright. But you can't deny there is a STRONG ressemblance in design.

>>532623419
I doubt it.

>>532623635
uuuuh to be perfectly honest...I don't especially care about the nose...

>532623519
>self insert out of nowhere
>reddit spacing
Horsetranny go back.

>>532623692
Yes but nobody can deny the current ratio is wildly skewed towards female characters.

>>532622117
Between Mibibi and Yixuan, when Ethereal enemies usually share Ice/Ether elemental weakness, and one DA slot being permanently reserved for Pompey - honestly, no. Not in DA at any rate. She's still fun in the HZ.

>>532623706
Most agents wish they had a plot even close to how good Anby's was

>>532623706
>and is an absolute monster with Trigger by her side
Only if M1R1 and M1R1 Trigger makes almost anyone good

>>532623772
zzz will never cater to you, faggot
uninstall

>>532623423
Yes, when pandering becomes too extreme it does feel insulting.

>>532623695
Kinda hard to say, Orphie could be meant to be played with a future Fire character, which is why is she's second half despite being decently hyped.

I remember seeing an art on xitter where wise was fucking yuzuha while belle was taking a photo of both
Does anyone have that art saved by any chance?

>>532623649
Not at all, in fact she should be rigged to some cock milking machine in order to pilot the mech.

>>532623649
Sorry futasister but I already claimed her as my wife

>four leaf clover
she's our slut

>>532623635
TROOKACOLA

>>532623749
They also said it's hsr design. These design experts and scholars can never seem to agree on the reason why they exactly hate her appearance.

>muh fucking meta
just use who you like, it's not that hard.

>>532623803
Sanby's story was the last time I cared about the writing in this game. At this point it just feels like a directionless anime filler season.

>>532623289
She’s electric attack so she works with sanby core passive bro

>>532623725
>got tired doomposting seed and feed so xhe went back spamming xer yurisloppa
sasuga

>>532616497
lmao genshintards with this cope
forgot you have 2 new end game modes and abyss is powercrept shit for free gibs?
good luck beating stygian onslaught dire without c2+ mega meta team LMAO shit game for whales with even worse powercreep than hsr.

>>532623942
She looks like ZZZ design rules by a Genshin artist to me. Not my style. I don't see the link with HSR or Wuwa designs at all

>>532623931
>have sanby
>have toriga
>want orphie
>want seed
I want to complete my SAnby team, guess I'll just wait for their kits and see which one works better with burger girl, it would be retarded to roll for both when I will only end up using one of them.

>>532623950
Lucy's useful tight body...

>>532624084
>good luck beating stygian onslaught dire
NTA but you can just beat SO at level 3 and get all the rewards that matter.

average player here. how can i improve any of these team comps. dont have lighter cuz i dont roll males. every 5* is m0 and only yixuan and miyabi have w1. also have trigger.

>>532624084
(oh yeah and she's imo somewhat inspired by Eureka Seven)

>>532624158
put trigger on yixuan and use fufu with evelyn instead of koleda
guaranteed to have higher score

Why does ZZZ keep winning? I can't take this anymore...

If you have Yuzuha/Vivian, Astra and Pan M6 you can claim Lucy sucks because then her buffs simply aren't worth it but if you lack one (or two) of those you don't have as many options and then the relative strength of your other two agents make using her worth it.

>>532623840
Why do people keep saying Trigger needs M1 and her engine? I don't have her so I have no idea what she does or why she's so reliant on these

>>532623646
Auntie hair is for auntie-coded girls. It doesn't match Seed at all.

>>532624158
that score on Pompey is fucking disastrous holy shit, you guys told me I missed out not pulling for Eve???

>>532624334
i'll take anything over another rat tail

>>532624112
So now she looks like zzz. You guys need to come up with what game she looks like from already so I can hate her more concretely.

>>532624158
Roll Lighter and replace Koleda

>>532624298
She needs neither, especially her M1. No S-rank in this game "need" their M1. Maybe Rina so that you don't grow bald due to aggressive self-harm whilst attempting to play her. Anyway, Trigger is heavily reliant on her engine but she also does not "need" it but it's definitely one of the closest cases of "need" in the game.

>>532624143
Hopefully they unshackle her from the Flops Of Calydon and give her a character arc and alt in the inevitable Throne Quarter chapter.

>>532624368
because he's using koleda? she's shit

>>532624296
only vs tower of fantasy

>>532624298
She does nothing without it

>>532624368
Eve is great IF you have her engine+Lighter+Astra
If you're missing even one of these she immediately drops at least 2 tiers

>>532624298
Because it's pretty much the only way to cap her passive, on top of being a very solid ball all around.

>>532624368
Bwos, I've been able to score 20k+ with S11 and Lighter up to today, but today I just couldn't...
Maybe I should have rolled Evelyn...

>>532623578
>tuning specific slots
Like I suspected, there's your issue. Because of how you can regurgitate disks over and over, you end up seeing dramatically way less disks (less than half) if you force target tuning. Once you have a "usable" baseline set of disks, you should never touch this until your disks are so blatantly godlike that your chance of rolling any improvement elsewhere is near-to-actual-zero.

There's no reason to pay scam-tier rates trying to tunnelvision improvements on each disk one by one when the rest of your disks in the other 5 slots are some gradient of garbage that could stand to be improved still. Especially for multi-purpose 2pc sets, even if you already have a godlike disk in some slot you're not going to be upset to see another. Something like pic related, there's no way in hell I'd ever target-tune D6 Woodpecker but when I pick up something like this while building another character it's easy to find it a home. You'll spend a long time pecking through irrelevant disks for the exact one you need, but in the process you'll slowly refine all the other stuff around + improve other tangential characters in the process.

>>532624158
try to get four stuns on priest and pompey, 3 stuns on fiend

>>532624296
Mihoyo basically has casus belli to do whatever they want and the normie hordes will continue shoveling the slop into their mouth
If HSR's endless power creep and Castorice bullshit didn't turn them off and tank their popularity, nothing will

>>532619929
janitorai is just an interface though. its more tedious, but you could just manually input on openrouter

>game keeps crashing for unknown reasons
I think I'll just import the models to Stellar Blade and use the Agents there

>>532624479
That sounds like a major (You) problem. Maybe if you have M0 S11 then it's possible to fuck that up, yeah.

>>532624396
Learn to read, retarded bitch.

>>532624429
>>532624468
>Lighter
shan't

>>532624468
lies
fufu can replace lighter easily in that comp

Seed is the first shit 2.x design

>>532624567
So, it's a genshin design? Make up your mind.

>>532624616
Okay but she's already stuck with Yixuan and most people didn't invest enough into Trigger to make her worth it

>/zzz/ doomed Yuzuha and Alice
>come release, Yuzuha is as beloved as 1.x agents
>/zzz/ dooming Seed
>???

>>532624629
She's almost as bad as shifu or whatever her chinky sounding name was.

>>532624729
Yuzuha and Alice weren't dogshit footfag designs though

>>532624629
Yixuan?

>>532624696
>most people didn't invest enough into Trigger to make her worth it
You don't need to. Trigger m0 is completely fine with Yixuan.

I own literally 0 limited stunners
Are any of them worth getting on a rerun or should I just wait for the next new one and keep coping with Koleda

>>532622347
are u me

>>532624773
They were just dogshit HSR//Genshin/Honkai designs.

>>532624616
Not for someone that actually gets the max out of Lighter, there is no "lie" here. Ligher is the absolute bis for Evelyn but Jufufu is good for any Fire DPS, whether or not she can replace him depends on what your expectations regarding score look like because Lighter will always lead to a better score.

>>532624821
never roll on reruns except for getting balls