Welcome to the Sonic the Hedgehog General. Here we discuss ALL things JP Sonic!

/sthg/ #8480 - Learn the difference Edition

==NEWS==
>TailsTube #12 - Life Hacks
https://www.youtu.be/R3WmM7nVq_I

>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Animation Teaser
https://youtu.be/qFDJ6zMyq-k

>Sonic Racing - Cross the Worlds - (Opening ver.) - Performed by James Bourne of Busted
https://youtu.be/OR9FGj1Bj70

>Sonic Rumble global launch delayed:
https://sonicrumble.com/GLDelay

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 will be released on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

==Comics Release Dates==
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog #5 - 23 July 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #80 - 30 July 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #81 - 03 September 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary Special - 24 September 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 04 Mar 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>/sthg/ OP template:
https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://grabber.zone

>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ OC info:
https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
>/sthg/ cytube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtToX7JRW5E

Previous Thread: >>532644758

>>532690603 (OP)
Sonic on the right is trying too hard to be like the 1980s TMNT

Dean Withers and Parker Sedgwick

Sonurge supremacy

>>532690903
Read the OP

>>532690927
Get a job krack

>>532690903
THIS IS RAPE

Tails!

Sonic and Shadow but parking lot Kingdom Hearts

>>532691120
Raping Surge is morally correct

Shadria!

>>532691120

ENTER: https://www.yourworldoftext.com/sthgmansion

>>532691120
Boo!

>making a shit load of zeena porn because she doesnt get art anymore
I LOVE AI

Remember this is the final OP
DONT CHANGE IT BACK

This is your reminder that "Sonic's World" never had a canon name, and the calling it proper noun "Earth" is a Meta Era concession

>>532691838
>this is the final OP
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! /sthg/ 4ever!

>>532691920
Wasn't it called Earth back in SA2 and Unleashed showed that the planet is just a fantastical version of Earth since it has all 7 continents?

>>532691920
Nigga I don't read moon runes

Sonic Team is an embarrassment to jap developers

>>532691920
It was called earth in the original manuals

>>532691920
Fine, if we also can't use neither Sonic's World, Earth nor Mobius, then let's just call it Planet Sega, Seganium, or something like that.

Saw a sonknux yuri pic posted here a while back, tried coloring some of it (WIP)
Should I keep going or nah

>>532691597
I don’t get it?

car

Pending request for Sonougechad.

Hydrahsitty

>>532690603 (OP)
What site is the best for a fanart image repository/archive?
>e621
Mostly porn and most SFW images aren't reposted there. But it has a lot of users, funding, its old, and a huge database.
>mobius.social
Inactive and relatively small database.
>danbooru
Not focused on Sonic and has even less Sonic images than mobius.social
>/sthg/booru
Not focused on Sonic at large.

The idea is a site that is best at searching through a database for specific images and hosting the most ideal archive on fanart. Anybody have some insight on this?

A ship is only good if both characterfags can agree that it's the best for both characters.

I have never seen any ship posted here that isn't crypto character shilling and I challenge you to find me a ship which is liked by both characterfags.

Tails and Amy talking about how much they love Sonic with each other!
Tails and Amy inspiring each other and bringing out the best in one another!
Tails and Amy spending time together when the wind isn't around!
Tails and Amy playing with cards together!
Tails and Amy cuddling during a thunderstorm, making Tails scared and Amy helping calm him down!
Tails and Amy!

>>532691920
It's Earth. Stop debating it.

>bestie

>>532692556
it looks all greasy and disgusting and offmodel is that on purpose? Drawchads mog you just by scribbling on their phones.

>>532691597
This doesn’t work because Shadow isn’t attracted to Rouge canonically. Maria was his one and only.

>>532692845
Amyfags will never beat the besties allegations.

Surge the Tenrec felt the rage boiling up inside her, fueled by the unwelcome and confusing sensation of Sonic's kiss. Her mind was a tumult of conflicting emotions and instincts—love and hate, passion and anger, all battling for dominance. Despite her programming, she couldn't ignore the fact that a part of her was responding to his touch, a part she didn't understand and didn't want to acknowledge.

With every ounce of strength she had, she pushed against him, trying to break free from his grip. Her sharp quills stood on end, her eyes flashed with defiance, and she managed to tear her mouth away from his. "Get off me!" she shouted, her voice filled with fury. "I'm not your plaything, hedgehog!"

>>532691920
It.
It says 地球 though?
I.
I don't understand what you're getting at...

Douge

>>532692684
Imagine a world where the concept of shipping never crossed into the minds of the Sonic fandom. How much different would the DeviantArt era have been?

What are you up to, /sthg/?

>>532692556
Sonougefag here. Thank you bestie.

>>532692556
Oversaturated

>>532691613
Keep your talentless hands away from my wife.

>>532693267
Trying to work
Don't wanna

>>532690603 (OP)
Who's the better Classic Sonic? Martin Burke or Jaleel White?

>>532693267
playing armored core 6

>>532692039
In Japanese Maria calls Sonic's World, "that planet", and I don't think Unleashed in Japanese specifies the planet as proper "Earth" (地球/ chikyuu")

>>532692556
>>532693278
Duo samefagging spotted
Step on a Lego or sth idk I go to sleep

>>532693251
Sonic fandom would have been even more of a clone of the DBZ fandom without shipping. Just replace all the shipfagging pieces for fights between characters followed by essays powerscaling them

>>532692903
The AI forgot to write in the disgust. The feeling of violation.

>>532693267
I've got dungeons and dragons shortly. I'll be back in a few hours completely wasted.

>>532693267
Wageslaving and reading HR1319

Who is the powerscaling son of Sonic? Who is the shipping daughter of Sonic?

...

Now what if they FIGHT!?

>>532693508
Sonamybesties seething again that there are more interesting pairings.

I'll have to give myself a prrrromotion!

>>532693251
Maybe they'd find some other franchise to latch onto like My Hero Academia, RWBY, or Horse show?

>>532693664
Shadow and Sally.
Amy is more relevant and actually canon but she is designed to love ONE person and fans just ignore that she has no flexibility or promiscuity the way Sally does.

>>532692040
The characters highlighted are 地上(Chijō), which translates to "ground", but it isn't the Japanese word used for the planet Earth, which is 地球 (chikyuu), that said, when Sonic 3 Manual got translated into English, the localizers expanded "ground" to proper Earth

>>532692261
>yuri
Garbage, post REAL Sonux or fuck off

>>532693984
based

>>532693928
>Sonic's World is called Ground
Bravo, Naka

>>532693841
How many people have wanted to fuck Sally?
>Sonic
>Antoine
>Geoffrey
>Monkey Kahn
>Robot Gorilla from that one issue
>Robotnink that one time he thought she was a witch and that Sydney show

>>532693841
People will fight you on this as if Amy didn't literally say she will wait for Sonic even she grows old

>>532693141
it says 地上(Chijō), which is ground or land, but probably not Earth, as in the planet

>>532693365
>>532693596
Well, Good luck with that, do your best! (HR1319?)
>>532693393
>>532693571
I hope you guys have fun!!

>>532693984
nta

>>532694120
Too many. Ian trying to make her a lesbian is so funny.

>>532694304
Oh yeah. I forgot about Nicole.

>>532694106
>Sonic's World is called Ground
Maybe that's where Archie got the idea for the underground Station Square?

>>532694174
>H.R.1319 - To amend the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 and the National Labor Relations Act to clarify the standard for determining whether an individual is an employee, and for other purposes

>>532694443
What in the fuck is this

>>532693841
For some reason, the first thought in my mind is Tails and Amy when taking the concept more literally.

A boy that's obsessed with hype moments and aura doing insane scientific math equations to quantify who would win a fight, versus a very romantic girl with rose-tinted goggles obsessed with shipping people together.

So like, imagine Tails being like "but can he beat Goku, though?" but with Shadow or more likely Sonic, while Amy trying to decide which of her Sally ships is the best.

>>532692684
Characterfags often have deluded perspectives of their favorite character or self-insert heavily, overwriting the characters' traits, preferences, and motivations with their own. Sometimes it's unconscious and they don't realize they're doing it. This means a characterfag saying something is "for the best" does not automatically mean it really is the best for the characters, you need to take it with a grain of salt.

I personally think Shadria is the best for both characters. Maria was a very lonely girl before Shadow came around, by her own admission. Although her life was cut short, her last few years were tolerable because Shadow was there by her side. She got to feel less like a burden, she finally had a useful role to play, and that was teaching Shadow what beauty, friendship, kindness, love, and happiness are. He in turn would watch over her and distract her from the pain of her illness.
As for Shadow, Maria was one of the only good things he's ever had. From the very beginning, he didn't work on her illness. He was immediately plunged into a stressful situation, and his sense of self-worth was derived from something out of his control. But Maria was there, she was a master at distracting him from his own spiraling negative thoughts about himself.
Without Maria, Shadow probably would not be fighting for good. He might not even be alive. If he hadn't remembered her wish, he would have been nothing but a weapon, a weapon with no motivation to see good in anybody since he would never have experienced Maria's love. Shadow would not be the Shadow we know without Maria, but with Maria's light in his heart, he will continue to fight to give everyone a chance to be happy.

A universe where Maria lived, where Shadow and Maria could be by each other's side, would be what would make both of them happiest beyond anything else. They were objectively good influences in one another's lives. I support that and cannot understand it when people hate it.

>>532694443
Archie should have rebooted itself when the Adventure games came out.

>>532694120
Sally Acorn is a whore in satam. Sally Acorn is a whore in preboot Archie. Sally is a whore the way Sonic is the wind. She likes dick. The only thing keeping her off of Tails is the fact that it would make her look bad. She doesn't think she gaps are bad, she was making out with a man older than her brother.

>>532694340
Santiago vs Salvador

Who wins!?

>>532693382
They accomplish different things I feel White adds a level of sincerity to his Sonic, but Burke was limited to a short OVA
Would've been interesting to see how they would have handled each other's roles

Follow up question" what do you think of Takeshi Kusao, the first Japanese voice of Sonic,
and how do you think he compares to Kanemaru

>>532694625
This works even better after Frontiers had Amy pairing cocos and Tails power scaling Dark Gaia

>>532694589
That's Archie, anon. Don't worry, I know that the comics were pretty disturbing just like IDW, but you got to stay calm. Archie will not be able to hurt you.

>>532693664
>The Plot Armor Man
Sonic
>The Edgy Rival
Shadow
>The Discarded Rival
Knuckles
>The Fraud Rival
Metal
>The Joke Rival
Jet
>The Woman Rival
Blaze
>The Failed Rival
Silver
>The Forgotten Rival
Fang
>The Forced Rival
Surge
>The (Wasted) Potential Man
Tails

>>532692039
As far as I know, no Dark Age game called Sonic's World proper "Earth" in Japanese, seemingly opting for more generic words that often got localized into proper "Earth" in English

Classic.

Blazamy tribadism knuxze style
https://files.catbox.moe/6xvwq3.png

Season 1: Mega Drive
Sonic 1,2 and 3 with Knuckles. Sonic CD with a three part episode special with Amy Rose and Metal Sonic. Amy would’ve have seen crushing on not just sonic but the human teen boy Alex as well. And the finale would’ve been an original story with villains from Knuckles Chaotix introducing Vector, Espio, Charmy and Honey as a member.

What do you guys think? I’m an amateur Writefag and I’ve been on a Avengers EMH binge watch for this idea

>>532694676
>I support that and cannot understand it when people hate it.
People like Shadria when it's Maria and her wierd alien pet thing. Trying to pass them off as some actual romantic shit is what people hate.

Tails the powerscaling son vs Amy the shipping daughter. Who wins?

>>532694589
Donkey Kong Bananza lore

>>532694589
This was Archie's way of explaining why Station Square exists since there were hardly any humans or Overlanders at this point. They really must have struggled to adapt Sonic Adventure. First, they wrote an entire story to explain why Sonic now has green eyes, then they brought in Robo Robotnik to become Eggman since old Robotnik has been dead since issue 50, and then had Amy age herself up with a Wish granting ring that the cast wanted to use to bring Sally's mom out of a coma. Though, I imagine SA2 would be an even bigger hassle, so they just decided not to, aside from City Escape and Shadow's backstory up until Sonic Universe's Shadow Saga due to what was happening with Tails, Knuckles, and Amy at the time in the comics.

Chaos reigns supreme.

>>532695408
Powerscaling is dumb and goes nowhere in Sonic, meanwhile the people can always appreciate the gospel of Barkmy.

>>532695408
90s and 2000s Tails vs 90s and 2000s Amy is a stomp in Tails favor

2010s and 2020s Tails vs 2010s and 2020s Amy is a stomp in Amy's favor

>>532695375
>the human teen boy Alex
No.

>>532695420
Perhaps I've treated IDW too harshly.

>>532695408
Tails son

>>532695302
This is incredible, thanks anon. More Blazamy kino, please.

>>532695578
90s and 2000s Tails vs 2010s and 2020s Amy

Who wins?

>>532695408
True Love

>>532693216
Cute N Canon!

>>532695552
Powerscaling in Sonic will have you trying to explain why Tails throws his ass at a FAKE base Chaos which Santiago could one shot meanwhile years ago he could fight Chaos 4 with no problems

>>532695552
>Barkmy
Endgame ship. The one and only ship that is able to bury forever the bestie meme.

>>532695801
This makes it look like she's kicking him.

>>532695760
Tails the powerscaling son trying to aura farm by fighting Amy in a Death Battle.

Amy the shipping daughter deciding that herself with Tails is her new favorite ship.

>>532694161
Oh, okay. Upon closer inspection, you're right about that.
But,
>>532693463
>I don't think Unleashed in Japanese specifies the planet as proper "Earth" (地球/ chikyuu")
I checked the Wiki script with Japanese cutscenes and Light Gaia refers to the planet as 大地 which is basically a way to say the same thing with more 'flourish'. I think "gaia" would have been a far better translation.

>>532694443
>>532694589
>>532695420
For me, it's the random, out of nowhere second Master Emerald, but black
>>532695416
kek

>>532695581
Yes. Stupid fucking chud

What do you guys think?
>>532695375
I’m gonna write season 2

>>532695932
Even Death Battle knows not to fuck with shippers.

>>532695908
Cream is likely evil when she's away from Vanilla, Amy, and all the other blobians. Don't put your trust in that two-faced embodiment of evil rabbit.

>>532696134
Because the Master Emerald didn't exist until Issue 56 where it was used to trap Mammoth Mogul. So, they needed something else to trap Chaos in.

>>532696209

You know it's not like people came together and decided "this place is called Earth" we call it earth because that's like the ground and we identify the stuff we live on with the ground and so that's like that's what we call it you know
We name countries because there are situations in which multiple people from different countries refer to other countries, we name other planets because we see them in the sky, but giving your own planet a name is a fantasy thing
In conclusion, it's called "the earth", and coming up with a name like "mobius" is stupid for the setting of the main games. That is unless they want to tell us the Classics+Adventure games, Unleashed, and Forces are actually three different unnamed planets, and that humans live on multiple planets. That's entirely possible too actually

>>532696209
>>532696459

>>532696254
>will piss off the DBZ fandom with Goku vs Superman and Trunks vs Silver
>will piss off the Ben 10 fandom with Ben vs Hal
>will piss off the Sonic fandom with Sonic vs Flash
>will piss off the DC fandom with all the Batfamily jobbing
>won't piss off MHA shippers

Are they serious?

>>532696459

>>532696271
>The Sonic series likes to treat their characters as if they were the embodiment of some specific concept
>Also, casinos are a recurring element as well
>Chronicles was originally meant to be canon
>In that game, Cream's main gimmick was LUCK
>According to gambling folklore, Luck is a harsh mistress

>>532696507
That just makes me think of that anime Cat Planet Cuties where the alien cat people also called their planet Earth but decided to change it to avoid confusion.

Notice how Surge and Silver are the only characters who outright get worse if their biggest fans write them:

Sonicfags
>Sonic is basically god

Shadowfags
>Shadow is the strongest warrior ever
^While Shadow has many shipperfags, the majority of Shadowfags are just shonenfags

Rougefags
>She is now Shadow's bestest friend

Tailsfags
>He becomes Sonic's equal

Amyfags
>She finally gets Sonic

Surgefags
>She becomes a tsundere and eventual wife for Sonic

Silverfags
>He becomes a crumbling mumbling awkward softboy

Amy and surge are built for BHC

>>532696651

>>532696719
poor knuckles
didn't even make the list...

>>532696719
Notice how blaming characterfags won't make your life better

>>532696782
I think Lanolin needs some too.

>>532695404
>People like Shadria when it's Maria and her wierd alien pet thing
So they didn't understand anything about Shadow's story. Calling Shadow her "pet" tells me you know absolutely nothing about Shadow, his story, and it tells me you don't care about his or her feelings.
>Trying to pass them off as some actual romantic shit is what people hate.
Because they're not fans of either character. It has romantic elements to it. This is factual.
Additionally, imagine pretending you like Shadow and then arguing that he's an animal after being called one made him cry.
It made Maria scream at armed soldiers because he is a BOY. He is her FRIEND. He is not a "pet" and comparing him to some animal is OFFENSIVE to both of them.
Christ above, I shouldn't have to explain this. You're an adult and don't even have the media literacy to understand stories meant for children.

Is it true sega stole sonic from dic

>>532696956
Get a job

>>532695104
Blaze should be the irrelevant rival, being a "women rival" is too good for her.

>Wanda: Why don't you trust me?
>Shdaow: Because I don't need another stupid girl following me around, getting herself killed!
>...
>Shadow:"Wanda, I didn't-

>>532695404
>People like Shadria when it's Maria and her wierd alien pet thing.
I read that and thought of those old Shadow759 videos where Doom's Eye is constantly trying to steal Maria's attention from Shadow.
>>532696719
What about Knuckles?

>>532696719
I just want to add to this:

Sonic under Naka and Ohshima:
>powerful fairy-like being, bad-boy rebel who does what he wants, when he wants (see Classic Sonic, Adventure Sonic and Sonic X)

Shadow under Maekawa, Iizuka and Fowler:
>Ultimate Life form, Sonic if he went evil, loves Maria to the point where he would even kill for her

Silver under Nakamura and Evan:
>Power psychic but naive, needs the guidance of other characters to function

I don't think we've ever had the obsessive characterfags for Tails, Amy or Rouge write for them.

>>532697171
But what does Cosmo and Timmy think of this?

>>532696459
>>532696651
>>532696862
wow what a healthy ship

>>532696680
Ouch, my head! It hurts so much! I hate Cheese!

>>532696879
>>532697179
Knuckles had Penders who basically turned him into Jesus and Flynn who basically followed in the footsteps of Penders. Hesse likes him but the movies turned him into Drax

>>532697254
I thought he was talking to the Scarlet Witch.

>>532697171
Wanda sisters…

>>532697224
Fowler's shadow is specifically superior to Sonic and Knuckles

>>532696719
>He becomes a crumbling mumbling awkward softboy
Notice how no one wants this but a specific type of women

...what?

>>532697549
Fowler's Shadow jobbed to a single punch from Super Sonic

>>532697616
Staying at home and baking cakes and crying when some skunk steps in it

>>532697616
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSGae-hYAjM

>>532696879
Because Knucklesfags don't do anything wrong with him

>>532697560
>a specific type of women
Context?

>>532697394
Penders made Knuckles like Superman. Not modern muh hope superman, old superman when they were going heavily into muh kryptonian lore in the books. Even ripped off his astral projection spirit realm story from superman

>>532697224
Took Evan 10 years to realize Nakamura screaming in Japanese at her is not him praising her for what she has done with Silver.

>>532697747
>Penders derailing the entire comic to focus on him

>>532697747
Can't do any worse than what Sega's done.

>>532697747
Aside from throwing their moms of course

>>532697837
Then derailing movie 2, and that awful jewish spinoff show

Impregnate Surj

Multiaze.

>>532698072
Chill out Sonic

>>532698046
This is a Pistol Pete general, kiddo, deal with it.

>>532697887
Well considering that ship is pretty much deader than dead it probably won't last much longer

>>532698131
Shalom

>>532696698
I'm not familiar with that series but that sounds right lol

You can't look at Surgefags and then tell me Silverfags are anywhere near as bad with warping his character.

>>532697771
Have you seen Evan? damn that bitch is ugly

You didn't forget about her, right? She's the most overpowered character in existence.

>>532698395
You can't look me in the eyes and tell me there are Surgefags and not bunch of rape correctors

>>532691920
>>532696031
To add to this, I recall Sonic Adventure 2 actually uses the term 地 which is also vague since it can be used for earth or any earth-like (life-supporting) planet, or the planet surface which makes sense in context. They should have just translated it as "the planet" but hindsight is 20/20.
So in summary...
>Planet Mobius was the original name of Sonic's planet after all, which even made it in the Japanese Sonic Spinball manual
>Japanese don't seem to like incorporating the Western-media name when they can help it (see "Planet Freedom") and by the Adventure games the planet's name is unmentioned in Japanese
>but it's translated as "earth" and around this time earlier translations of the Sonic manual stories circulate which also use this as the translation
>this causes the misconception that Sonic's planet was always originally called "Earth" in Japanese, and otaku are groomed into hating the name Mobius
>this continues until around the Archie reboot where Sega decides it's now a good time to call it... Sonic's world
>this is the suckiest name they could have come up with so they eventually say fuck-it and appease the little otaku vermin who don't actually know Japanese

Tails

>>532697671
The entire point of Shadow provoking Sonic about Tom was to make him feel bloodlust. After Super Sonic punches him to the moon Shadow no longer attempt to fight back even though all his limbs are free and he's shown he's capable of going against Super Sonic in base form. He never tries to remove his inhibitors. He begs Sonic to just do it and kill him, then gets indignant and confused when Sonic doesn't go through with it.
Shadow wanted to die. I think it's unfair to call that jobbing.

>>532698425
Evan kind of looks like a MTF. Someone should do a transvestigation on her. There's something "off" about her face.

>>532698508
you mean Cheese is. Cream can't do anything

>>532697771
Twitter women who say things like "checks notes".
Quirk Chungus women.
Women who say "protecc".
The kind of woman who hid under her desk in highschool when she was stressed. The kind of woman who hung around with nerdy boys but never got hit on.

>>532697549
you can tell he wanted to say Shadow is smarter than Tails in that one interview but had to hold himself back because even he realised that's idiotic to try

>>532698624
>>Planet Mobius was the original name of Sonic's planet after all
No.

>>532698670
She's the one who commands Cheese.

>>532698660
No. Evan looked like this at 16 and 18.

>>532698836
Nuh uh. Chao Tales showed that Chao all like Sonic more than Cream and Sonic is their inspiring hero.

>>532696031
In Memory of Honey you will always be rememberd by your family and friends R.I.P
>In English, the Japanese name "Daichi" (大地) translates to "great land" or "earth". It can also imply wisdom or intellect.
Cool, but that still feels like its saying the ground or soil, the earth under Sonic's feet, rather than the planet Sonic lives on;
In English Gaia says: "I'll be here with you, aways. Apart of the earth you tread"
which is a good translation that is able to convey the intent and gravity of the Japanese script, even if there isn't an exact English parallel

>>532698958
She better be careful.

>>532698823
It was the first name they gave it is what I meant you nitpicker.

>>532698867
She has some pretty eyes, but her face is a bit too bloated.

>>532698975
oh wow, this single picture made me kinda care for chip

>>532696719
My personal opinion is that all the crazy takes on the characters that we see today come from Sonic X.

If you to go absolutely, batshit unhinged with the Sonic cast.

>Sonic
Would be written as lazy and aloof but he can beat anybody who crosses his path in the time it takes for the seasoning on his chilidog to set in on the meat all while snarking on them in the Jason Griffith voice

>Tails
Would be written like Tony Stark crossed with 2000s Ratchet. He spends most of his time in his garage working on plans or building stuff to sell but he's got so much firepower stored in his own artificial pocket dimension that every major law enforcement institution has him on a watchlist incase he loses his shit. He also has Cosmo as a wife or is raising their daughter as a single dad

>Knuckles
He's like Ed from EE&E. He's stupid but his tard strength breaks reality if he gets out of control. The only thing holding him back is his rock obsession and he sometimes goes treasure hunting and calls the Chaotix to carry his bags full of loot

>Shadow
He's unironically Coldsteel the Hedgeheg. Maria is a source of his sorrow and angst but he will legit rape your wife, shoot your kids and burn down your house for pissing him off. He regularly shoots cops and soldiers for fun and smokes cigarettes and drinks all while hiring blonde hookers to spend the night with him because they look like Maria and then he'd later shoot them for not being Maria.

The real tragedy of Silver is that his own fans are often huge autists who just make themselves look like fucktards when trying to correct it. Uwuver is objectively wrong. It's not just OOC it's not even an attempt at being IC at all. But Silverfags go so far in antagonizing his fangirls that they just look like assholes. You're not going to convince women (and that drawfag who likes Evan's writing) that Uwuver is bad by telling them they hate Silver and don't understand the inner complexities of Sonic.

>>532696031
Is Candy a totally different character or just a reskin of Honey?

>>532699180
wow everything here is completely wrong except sonic being lazy and aloof

>>532699078

>>532698660
Nah she's a women just very ugly

>>532699163
you wouldn't if it was that hideous 3d cgi baby from the game

>>532699163
Chip is the Wind of the spiritual world, while Sonic is the Wind of the physical world. Both are counterparts to one another that maintain the balance of the universe.

Kill halflidshit

Nintendo did it again
Atari, Sega, Microsoft, and now Sony
All gave up and went third party.

>>532699210
That's the tragedy of JP Purists in general.
But yes that's the rule of sperg >>532581838

>>532699180
did you tailor make this post specifically to infuriate characterfags

>>532698867
Woah she looked so pretty! Nowadays she's.. Very not that

>>532698395
>he actually cares about the characterization of shitty comic OCs
Surge is whatever I want her to be, because unless she shows up in official media that isn't mobileslop she isn't canon

>>532699667
Stop calling her the creator of Uwuver. Stop treating Evan like she's the only one responsible.

>>532699078
This is hilarious and I miss Amy sperging out like this. She's so sanitized and boring now.
Sonic characters are much better when all of them are mentally ill.

>>532699617
>Nintendo was able to reclaim their monopoly on the console market in just under 40 years after SEGA broke it up
If Nintendo is somehow able to take control of Steam, I don't think we'll ever see the gaining industry being free on them, especially when Indie games are getting fucked by credit card companies

>>532699480
>>532699509
I just thought he was annoying for most of the game, mostly because of the voice they decided to give him (The JP one being cute) but also I never liked the whole silly sidekick trope.
This picture alone made me appreciate him more after the ending of unleashed. Like him still watching and taking care of everyone in the world, its cute and makes me feel weirdly warm inside since I never thought much of it

>>532699617
The end of an era... Goodbye PlayStation, it was good while it lasted.

>>532699114
Oh okay then

>>532699760
Surge hates Sonic
Surge isn't a tsundere for Sonic
Surge will not develop into a tsundere for Sonic
Surge doesn't find Sonic inspiring
Surge doesn't like being around Sonic
Surge doesn't like thinking about Sonic
If Sonic ever hugged Surge it would feel like rape to her
If Sonic ever saved Surge (Which he has) she would not feel any gratitude towards him
Surge would chop off her own arm if it meant Sonic would die
Surge hates Sonic.

>>532699667
Is she fat now

>>532698624
>Planet Mobius was the original name of Sonic's planet
I don't think so, I feel it was always "Sonic's His World", or simply nameless as naming the planet was probably seen by the Japanese Devs as beyond the scope of a series mostly focused on islands
It would be like asking what planet Zelda takes place on
Ultimately, Color's use of "Sonic's World" probably had as much historical precedence as "Eggman's Robots" did in Heroes

Silver has the OPPOSITE of windfags. Windfags treat you like a retard for not knowing a character trait Sonic had in 5 frames in the Sonic CD intro.
Silver "fans" will go out of their way to demand he act like a warm little "comfort character" who needs headpats and cries because his widdle plants.

>>532700036
She's flab now

Surge is Sonic's wife.

>>532699995
Amazing how all of the people who "like Surge" ignore her main character trait. Failed shitty character only good for cheap waifubait and ooc shiptardism.

There's a ton of confusing and conflicting information on Tails' creation. I don't think I can trust the Americans who worked on Sonic 2

REMEMBER FAGGOTS.
SONIC X SALLY IS BASED, not cringe

>>532699163
For all its faults, Archie really benefited from having a very impressionistic view of the franchise, using the broad strokes from the games to craft its own distinctly emphatic identity

>>532699995
Notice how I never specified anywhere in my post that I wanted her to be a tsundere for him

>>532700150
That's because Sonic has multiple Windnic games that are relatively untouched by localization. Silver has localized 06 and the obscure Rivals games.

>>532700397
ARCHIE IS BASED

>>532700179
Surge is sonic's sex toy, she hates him, wants to kill him, and is mentally incapable of loving him.

>>532700363
Trvth nuke

>>532700387
Ian looks like a 70's soft rock/prog band member in that image.

Silver just needs to be written by a guy that actually likes him.

>>532700387
Hell yeah bro I'll drink to Bacardi Curry

Did ABT draw this? Is that why it’s so blatantly sexual?

>>532700363
What if I said the 1 time we ever saw Sally interact with windnic it was actually a funny and interesting dynamic

>>532700387
DAMN, you could totall play tictactoe on Evan's massive 5head IRL

Sonurge is only good when it's hatesex between the two where Surge tops

>>532700462
Because Sonicfags are
>boys who love cool and manly things, want to see Sonic as cool guy who fucked girls(Chad)
Silverfags are
>trans or gay dudes who got molested as a child, want to see Silver suck cocks and takes it up the ass(homosexual projection tendency)
You think I'm joking? look at his financially struggling VA and that faggot Bend(over)tley jones

>>532700641
All of the comic people "like him", they just don't know what he really is and Sonic Team is too lazy to tell them.

>>532699180
Samefagging to continue this post

>Eggman
Literally bipolar Hitler. Wants to conquer the entire world just to turn it into a playground for himself and make everybody worship him all while having moodswings between a goofy guy who wants to play with his funny toys and a legit psychopath who will turn your whole family into robots and then rape all of them in front of you and then sell them as sex dolls when he's bored of them.

>Amy
Yuno Gasai would be a Saintess compared to her. She kills any girl who so much as glances at Sonic, consistently tries to rape Sonic so he'll marry her once she gets pregnant and will kill anybody who even threatens Sonic or pisses her off and tries to hide it under being a bubbly sweet girl so everybody thinks she's innocent.

>Rouge
Not even the worst interpretations of Catwoman compares to her. She destroys marriages for fun, uses blackmail to destroy companies for money and has driven museums and jewellery stores to bankruptcy. She also rapes Knuckles for fun and shits on Shadow for having oneitis before going on to fuck the entire GUN armed forces for extra pocket money.

>Cream
Her "pure, sweet, innocent girl" thing is just an act. She's a huge mesugaki when her mom isn't around and will get men thrown in jail for pedophilia for fun and has Cheese kill anybody she doesn't like.

>>532700242
What confuses you regarding Tails' creation?

Silv

>>532698975
Hey, what if Honey's wings are in tribute to the Gaia mythos?
He also says it in this line,
>Seven lights of the earth rekindled!
which fits in with the poetic meaning I think he's trying to use it in.
To be clear, "earth" is definitely a 'safe' translation of the term, but the translators probably were unaware that the name of Sonic's planet would stir a small upset and weren't operating with solid Sega guidelines over it at the time.

>>532700641
Anon I hate to tell you this but Uwuver exists because women like Silver. What you want is someone who will put aside their liking of a character to write them CORRECTLY, which funnily enough is what Evan did with Shadow

>>532701115
Silver has no relation to Marine or Gardon

>>532701273
he does now

>>532701115
Silver is poop penis ass coded character

>>532700961
>>532700641
You see, that is why i inserted the word "actually" in there, they seem to like other things about him, but never him.

i love sonegg slop

>>532701045
>>Eggman
Literally bipolar Hitler.
Not really, Eggman feels more like a middleground between Mao Zedong and Pol Pot.

>>532701273
I'm guessing he's with them due to being associated with Blaze.

>>532701061
This is shounen

>>532701115
Not even Silverfags like this shit bro...what are women doing to him?

Windfag content:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0mDYDAYx7A
Nonwindfag content:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUm1ihpJPBk


I enjoy both

shadow would never cream the rabbit

Do Sonurge shippers just want to fuck Surge so they self-insert as Sonic?

>>532701497
I know but it's still forced just like Silver's association with Blaze itself

>>532701540
>what are women doing to him?
They're making content which makes them happy

>>532701558
What about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwPa2whucPo

>>532701495
Eggman would definitelg agree on killing intellectuals. Not because they could inspire rebellion, but because they're a waste of space in his eyes since he's smarter than all of them put together and robots make for better workers.

>>532700781
>>532700954
Where do these come from?

Remember when Ian said he's not using Shadow because Shadow is supposed to act like Shadow?

>>532701796
Almost windfag content but no windfag would ever call it mobius

>>532701692
Yeah, the two have become joined at the hip. Just like Tangle and Whisper. Should we blame 06.

>>532700349
Cute prints. I want the Chaotix one.

>>532701927
The damage 06 and Archie did to Shadow cannot be understated

>>532701945
>windfag would ever call it mobius
it doesn't go against the wind or windfags. only against canonfags

>>532701656
yes

Emasculating Silver is women revenge towards men who use female characters only for their sex appeal and never their character

>>532702031
Replace 06 and Archie with Heroes and Shad'05. Bringing back Shadow after SA2's ending was a mistake.

>>532702103
Then it's definitely windkino

>>532701639
I have dozens of pics where he does

>>532702159
Why emasculate instead of using a male character for sex appeal?

>>532699078

>>532702286
windfags are not canonfags. they are characterfags, sonicfags specifically. canonfags look at more than just sonic. including the rest of the universe

>>532702263
Funny thing is Archie did it first.

>>532701115
>>532701540
Now that they've established Silver's future world they need to give him his own characters instead of attaching him to Blaze's.

>>532701273
>>532701497
I blame the Fortune Cards for feeding the leech narrative.

Silver if his male fans wrote him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2uJ-ughQFU
Silver if his female fans wrote him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sE5yHfzqK4

>>532702547
Pedo art

>>532700349
Canon couples

>>532702457
Idk? majority likes it? it's not socially taboo like the sex appeal? they like cute things? emasculation is basically sexualizing but at a comfortable level for them?

>>532702496
>yellow fur
That's not the real Shadow. The one in the image is Not-Shadow.

>>532702607
>Silver if his male fans wrote him
I wouldn't write 06 again

Sonic taking a good look at Tails

>>532702159
They didn't do any of this shit on purpose they unironically thought he was supposed to be a helpless polite bitch.

>>532702707
>emasculation is basically sexualizing but at a comfortable level for them
...what? I really don't get it.

>>532692253
I like to think Sonic's World is the Fantasy Zone from Space Harrier and its where all the Sega characters live

> Mario kart world online is dead because of Nin10dohs own incompetent decisions

> Sonic racing crossworlds looks like complete slop and Sega paid critic shills to give it good previews

What the absolute fuck happened to mascot racing games this year? Literally the only thing that can save us is Kirby air riders.

>>532699180
>He's like Ed from EE&E
This stupid nonsense surrounding Knuckles makes people confused on whether he's Donald Duck or Goofy and that's the dumbest thing ever.

Really, he's neither. Knuckles is not Ed, and he's not Eddy, because both Ed and Eddy are Sonic. And if Sonic is Ed + Eddy, Knuckles is Kevin. The same way if Sonic is Ben 10, Knuckles is Kevin 11. The "K" in Knuckles stands for KEVIN. THAT is how Knuckles should be understood in relation to Sonic.

>>532692253
Sega exists in-universe so...

Shadow chest soft

>>532703145
>lower

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnE1ja7_Rt0
>Sally if she appeared in japanese sonic media

>>532703193
Shadow cock hard

>>532702535
>they need to give him his own characters instead of attaching him to Blaze's.
But then poor heckin Blaze will be thrown into the vault never to be seen again

>>532702910
Making a man pass out and fumble like a bitch cause he likes you is much more comfortable then making a man who's in control, scary and powerful cause he likes you.

>>532703316
kek

>>532700387
Jesus Christ Evan is hideous

>>532702924
>its where all the Sega characters live
Well, almost all of them. Characters from Shenmue, Yakuza/Like a Dragon, Virtua Fighter, Fighting Vipers, Sakura Wars and Crazy Taxi are definitely from Earth.

Surge giving Sonic a handjob.

Sonic = Ed + Eddy
Tails = Edd, Double D but with Eddy's idealization of an older brother figure he thinks is "Cool", but that older brother is Sonic (Ed + Eddy)
Knuckles = Kevin
Amy = Nazz but the "unattainable love interest" role is reversed/swapped.

>>532703015
>Literally the only thing that can save us is Kirby air riders.
Air Ride is a shitty racing game with a side mode that is conceptually brilliant but is unfortunately held back by the rotten foundation of the game it's in.

>>532703558
Who would be Rolf?

>>532698624
The whole "Mobius vs Earth" thing was moot when Archie decided to make them the same planet. I wanna know wtf the were thinking with "Freedom" but the OVA planet was admittedly pretty different with its Land of the Sky / Land of Darkness schtick.
Whatever the case, I think most of us can agree Sonic's World was lame.

>>532702607
Real life alternative
Silver if his female fans wrote him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFqE8Ny-HOo&ab_channel=CartoonNetwork

>>532702706
So Eggman is fucking Metal?

>>532703145
>>532703268
I want to touch Shadow's chest fur and pp

>>532702462

>>532703316

>>532690603 (OP)
>left
Soulless
>right
SOVL

>>532693382
Jaleel is the ONLY Sonic.

It really cannot be overstated how ruined Silver and Blaze are as characters because their niche fandom appeal has overtaken their general appeal as characters. Same with Tangle and Whisper.

>>532703342
They'll still be attached at the hip because when their Sonic's world they have each other and not their supporting casts.

>>532703956
They aren't beating the allegations

>>532700793
>>532703415
>/sthg/ calls Evan and Jenhen ugly
>Never makes a comment on how ugly the men are
Sexism. You only care that she's ugly because you think a woman's only value is her appearance.

>>532703659
>>532703558
Shadow would be Kevin
Nazz would be rouge
Knuckles would easily be rolf

Do you also hyperfixate with the same group songs for longs periods of time?

Can Sonic say nigger?

>>532704032
Actually I want to shoot everyone in that image.

>>532704047
Now how about the Kanker sisters?

>>532704082
Shadow gave him a pass

>>532704032
Anon people call Ian fat all the time

>>532704082
Umm sweetie Sonic is black coded of course he can

>>532704082
Maybe if Jaleel or Devon Mack are voicing him?

>>532704075
Yes but only because they are tied to hype anime fights that happen in my head

>>532704125
Red >= Blue >>> Yellow

>>532704047
>Shadow would be Kevin
No. Kevin and Nazz being Shadow and Rouge is what I thought when I was like nine, but nowadays I realize that Kevin is Knuckles to the Eds. Kevin is largely the Anti-Eds. Whenever the Eds are doing anything, Kevin is always alert and on the prowl to shut them down. Even in that one episode where they were just not around, Kevin was going crazy out of paranoia. Sometimes he's less of a bully and more like a justice obsessed vigilante who thinks the Eds are actual criminals, with the way he acts.

And that's what I think Knuckles should be written like, as a Guardian figure whose responsibility is protecting the thing that controls/neutralizes chaos, and Sonic is the EMBODIMENT of Chaos. So if Knuckles is suspicious of Sonic, he'd be just like Kevin. If Sonic is doing anything that seems like it'd cause trouble, Knuckles should be the first to get on his case for it and likely beat him up. And overall, just have a ton of competition between them just for the heck of it.

>>532704269
>black coded
"colored" troon detected.

>>532703654
Even if the first one could have been better, I still think its sequel has more potential then straight line simulator or crossover slop that couldn’t be bothered to put in voice lines because segas cheap.

>>532704413
Sonic would do unspeakable things to you

>>532704012
Nah Silver will come back to the past with his pals Blara-Su and Sonic Jr and race together as Team Future while Blaze cries in the corner. Nakamura told me this in a dream.

>>532704463
pink Sonic makes me want to do violent sexual things

>>532703659
Vector

To be even more accurate...

Knuckles is Kevin with Rolf's background. THAT is the most accurate depiction of Knuckles. Combine Rolf's foreignness and constant workaholic lifestyle that makes him super duper strong, fueled by his bloodline ancestry to his homeland and his family and stuff, and add it onto Kevin and his rivalry with or hatred of the Eds and all that, and you get Knuckles.

>>532704125
The Kankers are basically just what people think Amy is, but Amy herself is just Nazz if the joke was reversed. So instead of everyone pining after Nazz, it's Nazz chasing after them or whoever specific one. But Nazz's own characterization as an idealized, attractive girl in general but also having a very energetic, enthusiastic, playful cheerleader/tomboyish personality who likes doing fun things is 100% Amy.

If anything, the Kankers might be more comparable to Rouge at best.

>>532704416
>crossover slop that couldn’t be bothered to put in voice lines because segas cheap.
Characters talking during gameplay is not necessary for a racing game to be good. Riders had almost non-existent voice acting during gameplay, and the games still turned out good. Sega should put its resources into bringing more Sonic characters to Crossworlds instead of pouring time into unneeded features and random guest characters.

REAL EE&E fans know that Marie specifically is unironically in love with Edd and not just harassing him for the sake of it

>>532704082
>Can
Anon, everyone can
What you should be asking is "should"
And the answer is Yes, because the Wind doesn't care about your fucking Mazuri ancestry, or your retarded feelings

Millennials, please leave.

>>532704627
Like some really steamy sex

>>532705039
I don’t think you should compare this game to riders though. For one, riders is an ancient ass game that came out in 2006. This game is an actual modern game they are charging 70 DOLLARS FOR. 20 plus for the fucking DLC. You’re telling me that this game is 90 dollars for the glub shitto non Sega guest characters and they don’t have voice lines? Cmon man. Maybe the rest of you guys don’t have standards for this franchise anymore after shit like 06 or forces or boom, but this is too fucking low, even for Sega. Transformed, a game that was made by sumo digital, not the main fucking developers aka sonic team, had voice lines for all of the characters in 2012. I’m sick of this franchise cheapening the fuck out for no reason

>>532699210
Sonicfags and Shadowfags are twice as, and arguably more vicious and get what they want, though.

>>532705384
Not to mention the fact that the werehog, a preorder bonus, doesn’t have voice lines either. Sega, you couldn’t be fucking bothered to just take random clips of Jason from unleashed????? Are we being deadass??????

>>532705395
It's the difference between hornets and bees. Hornets (Sonicfags) can get away with being hyper aggressive because they will still get what they want. Bees (Silverfags) can't sting anyone without dying.

>>532699306
? Candy is what she's called in the Western release of Fighting Vipers. Didn't really stick, though.
>>532699078

>>532699210
you're all inferior to Eggfags

https://youtu.be/Zvavclgsp9k
>19 years old

>>532700745

>>532705815
IC for both surge and kit

>>532705384
Sonic is currently passing through a enshittification phase due to Paramount & BlackRock's shenanigans. Thrown in IDW in the mix and you have a completely hopeless future for the franchise.

>>532705523
The Werehog (and by extension Primenic) doesn't need voice lines. They should be just extra skins for Sonic, no different than Super Sonic. No need to waste slots on redundancy when the games have so much characters as it is.

I have an idea for a Sonurgefic. So Surge realistically can't fall in love with Sonic so the best way to write around this is to make Sonic a massive pervert who sexually harasses her because it's guilt-free sexual pleasure for him. Then Surge starts enjoying it to cope because of the psychic damage of being unable to protect herself or go to the authorities.

>>532705946
The oldest Sonic related video was a trailer of Shadow the Hedgehog from 2005

https://youtu.be/qNT33Fw2Rsw?si=nOVid5wrwj6qZnJv

And the first video to feature Sonic in any way was this one

https://youtu.be/-jQte6HE2rw?si=sltNnzN_N751AN4D

>>532701068
Who came up with his names? That always confused me ever since I read about it. I don't trust the sources. I just learned that there are some new interviews about it from a few months ago and I trust them even less now. Although I haven't put effort into reading them yet. For years it was said that the Japanese developers came up with the name Miles while Americans came up with Tails, which I never really trusted to begin with. Now Brenda Cook is claiming she's the one who came up with the name Miles Prower. She thinks they ignored her idea though, and they instead ended up calling him... Knuckles. Should we trust her? I don't think she remembers things very well. But there's also some Japanese interview that I can't read because they want you to pay to see it, which apparently says Naka first came up with the name "Mile". I think you're going to like this, apparently Judy Totoya wanted to call him Miles Power. But the Americans didn't like it so he changed it (back?) to Prower. Or something. The katakana they ended up using doesn't match either of those words anyways. It's all very confusing to me. I don't get it and I don't know who to trust. There's also the American guy who wanted to call him Miles Monotail and iirc he claims credit for the name Tails. I'm under the impression there were disagreements and conflicts going on during the development of Sonic 2, so different developers may have interest in taking credit for certain things, or maybe they just don't remember things well anymore. I suppose it's fair to call it a group effort but it would still be nice to have a decent timeline of events
I'll try to make more sense of this nonsense one of these days

With it being leaked that Mario Wonder is getting an expansion should Sonic Superstars get one too to remind people how much better it was?

>>532705183
All the Kankers are in love with their respective Eds, genuinely. But they're also, you know, the Kankers. And Eddy hates them the most while Ed is extremely afraid of them, so Edd as the polite one is the most likely to try and meet them in the middle at some point if the opportunity ever arises. But with the Kankers, the one most likely to do that is May, because she's the nicest one due to being the Bubbles of the group.

Which is probably why the Valentines day happened the way it did, but that whole episode was just crack shipping.

>>532705709
>Didn't really stick, though.
I think it made a comeback as a way to differentiate Honey the human (despite being the original character) from Honey the Cat, since Fighting Vipers hasn't been relevant in forever and now most know Honey as that funny cat girl easter egg.

>>532703536
Hmm, maybe...
https://youtu.be/X8JA0iIXXr0?si=mvuxv3xWdzg0PBtL&t=805

>>532706290
>2005
I wonder how /sthg/ would have been like if it existed back then.

>>532704008
So you're saying they've been Craig and Tweeked?

>>532706447
I don't care what Nintendo/Mario is doing, I already wanted Superstars Plus regardless

>Bioware made me for what?

Silverfags in 2036 quitely giving up hope on him after his character peaks while making tea with Gardon in IDW #179.

>>532704032
Evidently all the americans working on Sonic are autists that either don't care about their appearance or delude themselves into thinking they look good.

>>532706562
Sega only does things based on Nintendo so we gotta wait and see
The Mario Wonder expansion includes a 4K 120fps mode and 4 new worlds including one based off DK Island.
What could Sega even do with Sonic Superstars?
Add in South Island, a locked 60fps mode?

>>532706457
I love that Rolf resolved everything by dumping dirty mop water on everyone.

>>532706724
You mean a Sonic 1 remake inside Superstars? Not exactly what I would expect, that sounds more like a separate game, but it would be cool to see the other Sonic 1 zones with 3D graphics

>>532706635
Knuckles' seed-taker.
Now open your legs so he can fertilize your eggs, it's mating season and you guys have a quota to fill if echidnas are gonna inherit the earth, chop-chop.

>>532695496
>Station Square
>Hidden
Huh?

>>532706698
>*male Canonverfags quietly giving up hope
ftfy

>>532706762
Rolf was based

wItHoUt ThE tImEsToNeS?

>>532707059
Archie stuff I think

>>532707054
>Bioware-sama... a single couple can't repopulate a species.

>>532706191
Interesting insight. I’d argue that sonics future was always hopeless though to be honest. Sega has always treated sonic like shit no matter what era. Almost every single sonic game is rushed so they could meet a deadline, from sonic 1 to frontiers. Sega was perfectly fine with keeping the movie design looking as it originally did. They had absolutely no faith in paramount and didn’t care about them or the movie at all until it actually released and made them money. For the past 34 years, Sega has never cared about this franchise. It only started out as good as it did because it was relatively easier to make a game in 1991 than in 2006 or 2022. Sega’s own retardation was their biggest cash cows downfall. Wouldn’t even surprise me if yakuza and persona met a similar fate.

>>532707139
Never underestimate the son of a shepherd.

>>532706505
Whole thread would've been Archieslop

Anondow found the computer room everyone

You guys fully understand we are paramount whores right now right? Even the Blade of Courage only takes place in real-japan NOT because they're trying to recapture the adventure era BUT because this setting is similar to the movies which is what most children (even in japan) will be familiar with for Sonic

>>532707189
Seriously though, what's the deal with the Time Warp signs on Little Planet, did Eggman make them to mess with history or are they native to the planetoid?

>>532707350
What about Sonic X? Since I think that was still airing. Probably also shitting on 4Kids since IIRC people were doing that a lot in the 2000s.

>Be Evan Stanley, lead Sonic artist for SoA
>Be an ugly woman in America
>Make Sonic characters ugly, asexual, and mannish
>Make the humans fat, bloated, and tumblr-esque

>Be Yui Karasuno, lead Sonic artist for SoJ
>Be an ugly woman in Japan
>Make Sonic characters pretty, seductive, and feminine
>Make the humans thin, beautiful, and anime-esque

Silver eats this

>>532706384
Yeah I knew about Brenda Cook from that Game Facts video from a couple months ago. She sounds like a hack. Yasushi Yamaguchi, Tails' creator, said he came up with the name "Miles Prower", and I'll believe him. This sounds like that Madeline Schroeder fiasco where she claimed she was responsible for removing Madonna and Sonic's band from Sonic 1 when Naka said Madonna was cut early on and Sonic's band didn't make it due to time constraints and basically SoA had nothing to do with anything. In these cases I take the word of the actual developers/creators not some SoA fuckos

I remember Naka saying that the name "Tails" came from an ABC director or something, since SatAM was being developed as a tie in for Sonic 2 and was going to air on ABC. While "Miles" seemed like the preferred name in Japanese material, "Tails" was also used interchangeably up until Adventure when it was his "main name". Heck Tails is even in the Sonic 2 JP cover. I think the last time he was refered as "Miles" was in the Japanese version of Pocket Adventure

As for Al Nilsen and his monotail thing, that makes zero sense because "mono" means one. And Tails, surprise, has two tails. Kind of a big oversight if you ask me

>apparently Judy Totoya wanted to call him Miles Power. But the Americans didn't like it so he changed it (back?) to Prower.
That's weird, but I guess it has to do with the Japanese pronunciation of "Per Hour" (Pa awā/Pawā) and then it was retranslated into English as Power, even though it would make more sense as "Prower" (Americans pronounce the "r" at the end of syllables, the Japanese pronounce as a long vowel)

>>532707289
Step 1: Open an adoption center that delivers your eggs worldwide.
Step 2: Do your duty and keep laying eggs until you can't anymore.
Step 3 (this is important): DON'T tell your hatchlings that they're all closely related to each other.
Congratulations, nature will sort the rest out.
But you gotta start now and keep doing it until you're, oh I dunno, dead or something.

>>532707675
Old Sonic Retro forums had people shitting on Sonic X.

Sonic's voice was awful, Chris was annoying, Tails was useless, Knuckles was an idiot, Amy was obnoxious and Rouge was forced fanservice with the saxophone.

It went absolutely nuclear when people heard that the 4Kids cast was replacing the games cast starting with Shad05. Everybody was shitting on the casting as well as that game.

>>532706635
>>532707054
>>532707289
The whole idea of being born out of an egg it's extremely depressing, to be honest
Like, you just get shat out of a cloaca, some body warmth every now and then, and that's it
You would never have the same kind of emotional connection a regular mammal would have after spending some time in the womb
I pity the birds, the reptiles, and the echidnas, for they will never know what a real motherhood bond is

Wait
Is that why Eggman decided to keep the nickname?
Is he subconciously comparing the state of the egg with his own lonely childhood?

>>532707789
I don't think Shade alone could handle laying that many eggs

What's the deal with the goddess/angel statue on the past of Wacky Workbench? It kind of looks like a human counterpart of Jewel or something.

>>532708004
>Humans have wings

>>532708004
can you stop shoving irrelevant comic ocs into conversations about actual canon sonic media discussion thanks

>>532708004
I remember there was a theory that this little area looked so out of place that it's a development easter egg of some tiles they saved from Round 2's deletion.

>>532708004
Sonic's future wife prophecy

Is this how it's supposed to work?

>>532708305
Maybe it's a Little Planet human?

>>532708004
>What the fuck is art deco
>What the fuck is abstraction of reality
>What the fuck is minimalism
Yes anon, the fucking solid hair is meant to remind you about the helmet-like head of Jenhen's OC who won't be invented until 2 decades later

>>532707618
Yes, the movies unironically saved the series, it would have sounded insane in 2019 but at this point we're starting to get used to it lol

>>532707761
I heard some things about a Brenda Cook interview months ago as well but I thought she just talked about some art she made for the zones (most of which were scrapped). I didn't know there was more to it than that.

>As for Al Nilsen and his monotail thing, that makes zero sense because "mono" means one.
I think the idea there was that it was meant to highlight that he was expected to only have one tail but that's so weird too

>and then it was retranslated into English as Power
I considered that too. But who knows. I can't even tell if this story is real

>This sounds like that Madeline Schroeder fiasco where she claimed she was responsible for removing Madonna
I didn't know that, and I don't trust it either. Speaking of, here's another claim from Al Nilsen about removing Madonna that I also do not trust at all whatsoever. I've started to think the entirety of Japanese video game history in the west needs to be rewritten while ignoring claims from non-Japanese sources because it mostly seems to be misinformation and made up nonsense. I don't hate the US, but I don't trust these 90s marketing people either. They seem to want credit for things they didn't do or accomplish

>>532707761
>As for Al Nilsen and his monotail thing, that makes zero sense because "mono" means one. And Tails, surprise, has two tails. Kind of a big oversight if you ask me
The "Mono" moniker could also come from monoplane if you wanna be gracious, considering Tails technically has a single fixed "main wing" (His arms.)

>Crazy Taxi, Persona, and Yakuza all apparently going to be at the upcoming Direct
>no Sonic
What the fuck is Sega doing?
Sonic hasn’t shown up at an event since Frontiers.

>>532708813
we are getting sonic: the movie: the game

>>532708813
Because Sega would rather ride sonic with Sony than Nintendo nowadays. Sonic fits more with Sony than he does with Nintendo anyways, so it makes sense. By the way, is this a leak? How do you know those are the games sega’s showing off?

>>532708648
>I didn't know that
https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Madeline_Schroeder

She even got the title of "Mother of Sonic" for this lol

>>532708865
Imagine the fallout from the fanbase of Movie Sonic getting a game and slowly replacing Modern Sonic

>>532708813
They're in talks with Paramount to get the next Sonic game to cross-promote with Movie 4. Movie 3 and SxSG was fucking huge and they definitely want to recapture that in 2027.

Amy is cute.

>>532709004
Did people think the same thing about Boom Sonic?

>>532708964
>Sonic fits more with Sony than he does with Nintendo anyways
Context? What parallels does Sonic have with Sony's franchises?

>>532709006
Real Talk: are they gonna have a new game ready in time?
They might have to do another half-remaster/side-game thing like they did with Shadow Generations.
Or just throw Amy in Sonic Mania, congratulations we're in digital hell.

>>532709004
>Rouge, Chaos and Tikal are either getting vaulted or reimagined entirely depending on how Paramount feels
>Iblis and Pachacamac aren't so bad, Longclaw is the true evil
>all the Islanders are Aliens, Maria was never sick and Gerald was a true fucking psycho
>Eggman will get a gay sidekick
>Sonic, Tails and Knuckles live with mommy and daddy
>Depending on how Movie 4 goes, Amy is now Sonic's gf or sister

This nurse cat/rat/sheep/dog(?) lives rent free in my head now
https://files.catbox.moe/rkm0lr.jpg

>>532708985
>Madeline proudly calls herself the "Mother of Sonic."
lol
Meanwhile according to that page I posted it was some random Japanese woman who came up with Sonic, while reading some random magazine about animals, and it only stuck because Al Nilsen said it was good. Anything to take credit away from the actual creatives I guess

>>532708307
Unironically the best handled characters in IDW

>>532709006
>They're in talks with Paramount to get the next Sonic game to cross-promote with Movie 4
I unironically think we are in the middle of growing pains for such a thing

>First Sonic movie
>Barely tied to the franchise
>Just adds a movie boost to Sonic colors to promote it


>Second movie
>Started development after Frontiers
>Frontiers is loaded with references to the first movie
>Sonic Prime is also loaded with references to the first movie
>No opportunity to tie in to the second movie
>They have a similar flashback animation and that's it
>Sonic's eyes glowing blue and giving off electricity is now canon


>Third movie
>Ties into Shadow generations
>Shadow inexplicably is also electrical
>Tie in DLC for the movie
>Tie in manga for the movie
>It is now implied that the movies are part of the multiverse of the games

It will just keep climbing

>>532709294
nice coloring

>>532708307
https://files.catbox.moe/o9vdt2.jpeg

>>532709268
There are multiple things they can do for Movie 4.

>CD remake
>Heroes remake
>Sonic 4 remake
>Mania remaster
>Frontiers 2

All that matters is that they include Metal and or Amy in the next big game for the movie cross promotion.

>>532709294
impressive immitation of joeadok's style.

>>532708813
What direct?

>>532709268
>They might have to do another half-remaster/side-game thing like they did with Shadow Generations.
>Or just throw Amy in Sonic Mania, congratulations we're in digital hell.
No Superstars Plus? That game definitely deserves a better treatment. They could do better things with it since what we got was a rather underwhelming game.

>>532709284
>Depending on how Movie 4 goes, Amy is now Sonic's gf or sister
Yeah, she's going to be his sister. Love is a forbidden concept for blobians to partake in.

>>532709259
To be honest, sonic doesn’t really fit Sony that much either. If anything, he fits Xbox, but they are fucking dying now so no point in trying to advertise with them. Between Nintendo and Sony though, I just feel Sony is the better option. Not only because his games just look more unique compared to other Sony games they show off at those state of plays, but also because sonic is supposed to be “cool” and “edgy.” Nintendo and their characters are more fun, safe, and whimsical. Not to like talk shit on 10doh characters since they pretty cool as well.

>>532709268
>Real Talk: are they gonna have a new game ready in time?
Yes, they're releasing new games yearly now.

What happened to all those 2000s critics that hated Sonic?

>>532709357
The question is when all of this will crash. The movies are destined to have a flop eventually and Movie 3 had Shadow carrying it.

Movie 4 is a complete mystery. All we know is time travel is playing a part of it.

>>532709143
The cutest!!!

>>532709492
>Sonic Heroes remake
Weren't there rumors of this?

>>532709789
Most of them just wanted Sonic to have black eyes and maybe be mute, Generations satisfied their desire and they slowly moved on from the series. A few wanted a new game with physics inspired by the classic games, Mania satisfied their desire and they slowly moved on from the series.

>>532709789
IGN's still around.

>>532709875
There are rumors for a Heroes remake every year and it never comes to pass. There's no way they could remake that game without seriously rewriting Amy so it's definitely off the table.

>>532708507
>Chaos attacks the Knuckles tribe 3,000 years ago
>??? for 3,000 years
Seriously, what happened that ACTUALLY caused the near-extinction of the echidnas? The Perfect Chaos event is what made the tribe lose power and is created Angel Island, but the isolation and decline was very slow and not at all instant.

>>532709915
my autism makes me want Sonic x Star Wars

>>532709259
Similar to Sega Sony just announced they’re going third party

>>532709347
>Miles "Tails" Prower, the Fox, can't sit still when Sonic's around. Ever since Miles was a baby fox, he's dreamed of being like Sonic. He loves to run after Sonic, waving his 2 tails behind him, trying to keep up with his hero!
>Mostly, Sonic lets him trail along. But sometimes, just to show off, Sonic explodes in a burst of super speed and leaves him behind. But Miles doesn't give up He whirls his tails like a helecopter rotor and takes off flying until he catches up!
>All the animals call Miles by his nickname, "Tails" because of his 2 special tails. And one day they saw an astonishing feat...

Also I doubt that Al Nilsen came up with Tails' backstory like some sources claim because the American Sonic 2 manual doesn't even mention the fact that he was bullied, and apparently he wanted to be like Sonic "since he was a baby" which doesn't make sense unless Sonic lived there or went to westside Island in the past which was never alluded in Japanese

>UK has gone full psycho and banned porn
>it's spreading to the rest of the EU
>the US is in thr process of banning porn
>all dissenting opinions are being called gooners and silenced
>Nobody cares about her character without her tits and most people do not like her new character direction to make her acceptable
>Fowler famously doesn't like her
How fucked is she?

I can't resist

>>532708507
>how's this supposed to work
Endless fucking

Like Knuckle's parents failed to do.

>>532709809
>Movie 3 had Jim Carrey carrying it.*

When Jim retires for real these movies are done for

>>532710279
>>532708507
inevitable incest if they want to keep the species going

>>532710242
>"Oi! You got a loicense to show cleavage?"

>>532710279
Lie back and DON'T think of England!

>>532710213
Yeah I completely agree with you. I don't trust that guy. Unless Totoya, Naka, or Ohshima say something about Tails came from the US, I'm not trusting it

>>532709294
AH!!! NO ANON, THINK OF THE BRITS!

>>532710364
>Movie 4 brings back Gerald and introduces Eggman Nega for TRIPLE JIMBOTNIK
>Sonic, Shadow and Amy team up to stop them
Is it kino?

>>532710242
Poor Fowler is ashamed of his attraction to Rouge

>>532709748
>sonic is supposed to be “cool” and “edgy.” Nintendo and their characters are more fun, safe, and whimsical.
Sonic isn't too far from Nintendo. Sonic is "edgy yet safe", remember?

>>532710539
Well Naka himself said that the "Tails" name came from that ABC director, and yeah that's it. Nothing from SoA directly

>>532692620
Bumping this inquiry

>>532710743
Yeah, hence why I put that comment in quotes to show that I was being sarcastic. Sonic is about as “edgy” nowadays as a mainstream mascot can be in the 2020s.

>>532703665
One thing I don't get is why "badnik" is seen as an accepted as an alternative to "Eggman's Robots" by the general fanbase while "Mobius" as an alternative to "Sonic's World/ vague gesturing to Earth" is such a point of contention. They both came from the same source of SOA filling in the world-building gaps Sonic Team left in 1991 with Sonic 1, and both were mostly carried into the 21st century by western side media

>>532710364
It cannot be understated how important Jim Carrey is to these movies. The suits shelved Rouge and rewrote Gerald's character just so Jim can play 2 roles and now we're sitting on a Sonic CD plot which can introduce time travel to bring back Jimbotnik even if he died in Movie 3 and possibly introduce more Jimbotniks if they introduce alternate timelines.

If Jim Carrey isn't going to be in the next movies, they're fucked. He's basically the heart of the movieverse.

>>532710669
Anon, your post gave me unironic Vietnam-like flashbacks of all that early 2000s Naruto-Sonic crossover fanart

>>532711047
We don't even know if he'll be in movie 4 lol. He likes playing the character and is always up to return but the script needs to please him. He basically has the movies in his hands

>>532711047
It's surprising that Sega didn't think of adding into Crossworlds characters Jim Carrey portrayed like the Mask, the Grinch, or even the Riddler since Sonic had that crossover with DC comics in IDW.

>>532711301
>we have to wait until next year to have 100% confirmation if Carrey stays
We already have Fowler staying and Zelda got delayed so they only rival it has is Godzilla. Once we get Carrey back Movie 4 is a slam dunk guaranteed.

>>532711003
sega accepted badnik as a term but got autistic about mobius. even intervened to prevent it from being used in the movies. canonfags here will recite sega's word

>>532710842
Yeah I find that much more believable because it came from Naka. Although I admit part of me wants to disprove it because I feel it seems kinda lame if the name came from some marketing guy who thought it would sell more instead of a creative decision. But whatever, I like the name regardless, and at the end of the day the games are designed to appeal to people and make money either way

>>532711003
I think it's because most people just don't know "Badnik" is a US invention to begin with, or they didn't know for the longest time and got used to it. It being based off the name Robotnik probably contributes as well. It also doesn't help that they managed to sneak in Badnik in Lost World iirc so now it's kinda a part of the games too. It's similar to how people still use "Power Sneakers" (ew) "Insta Shield" (nonsense), and more obscure stuff "Shields" (they're actually called Barriers)

>>532709294
MKULTRA based. Would let her conduct government experiments on my brain.Do not trust nurses.

>>532710016
>Seriously, what happened that ACTUALLY caused the near-extinction of the echidnas? The Perfect Chaos event is what made the tribe lose power and is created Angel Island, but the isolation and decline was very slow and not at all instant.

>>532711210
I'd laugh if the movie people decide to make Amy born from Shadow's DNA via cloning while he was locked up in order to mirror Metal being born from Sonic's biodata. They explain why Movie Amy is so strong and end shipping wars in one swift move.

>>532711609
>end shipping wars
That has never stopped anybody in this fandom

>>532711587
Would be very funny if she got into the games like this

>>532711609
The most popular rule34 pairing for Sonia is Sonic, then Shadow, then Knuckles.

>>532711003
Badnik works fine, as long as it remains synonymous with "funny animal-like robot"
A somewhat acceptable compromise, just like the Robotnik surname, or the chili dog meme
The real problem is people like Pontaff who label fucking Egg Pawns as badniks, or people like Ian and his stupid SuPeRbAdNiK headcanon

Like, dude, it's Eggman
Motherfucker it's a perfectionist, and everything it's labeled accordingly to different eras
If Classic, it's probably a badnik
If "Early Modern", it's either a Pawn-series, or E-Series
If "Recent Modern", we just go with "Egg Something"
But that's aparently way too much for these fucking frauds

>>532711587
Based Longclaw should return from the dead and show up to the Knuckles Netflix series with a calculator, saying the numbers don't add up

>>532711724
Calling the relationship between Shadow and Maria "siblings" nuked the Shadria ship.

>>532711467
>I feel it seems kinda lame if the name came from some marketing guy who thought it would sell more instead of a creative decision.
I mean Sonic exists because the CEO of Sega of Japan wanted a mascot to sell Genesis/Mega Drive units. Mario exists because Miyamoto wanted a character he could use in any context, which is why he was shoved in all those NES sports games. Sometimes things just exist for marketing purposes and that's fine.

>>532693216
This picture single-handedly made me like Douge. The idea of Shadow and Rouge off to the side looking smug as fuck is beyond appealing to me.

>>532711828
>what the fuck do you mean I killed millions of Echidnas?
>By my count, there were never more than 300,000 in that village and even then most of them weren't even there when I launched by attack!

>>532711828
>Longclaw
>Kills the entire echidna tribe
>Knuckles series says she's just like hitler
>Detailed flashback that she burned the entire city to the ground
>She is the last Owl, nobody else could have done this
>Next movie compares her directly to Maria Robotnik
is Fowler fucking insane

>>532710091
Is the PS5 doing that badly?

>>532711828
>My dear little Sonic, they say their tribe did it tough just like the echidnas, but I've been doing my math and something's off here.

>>532712084
My cope is that the Knuckles series was handled by a different writing team and they were not in sync with Movie 3 at all.

The only thing Knuckles does is give context as to why Wade had the Master Emerald. You could skip that show and lose nothing

>>532710396
Couldn't Knuckles kids just find other wives of different species to keep the echidna race going?

>>532711868
It is an easy way to make it sound lame. Some people criticize the Sonic series a lot for partially being born out of a need for competition and I think it's silly that they insist on that so much. But in the case of Tails specifically, with all these US marketing people trying to take credit for things they didn't do, I admit part of me wished there was nothing to concede when I heard that from Naka. I don't think that's right, if he truly came up with the name then he deserves credit for it, but I won't pretend I didn't have that idea floating in my mind

I want to hit this thing with my truck

>>532712084
He's even more insane if he tries to use Amy Rose to replace Longclaw in Sonic's life. We already saw that she goes full scorched earth on Metal Sonic to protect Sonic like how Longclaw went scorched earth on the Echidnas

>>532711832
>nuked the shadria ship
lol

>>532709415

>>532710279
>KNUCKLES PLEASE I CAN'T DO THIS ANYMORE

>>532711467
>It also doesn't help that they managed to sneak in Badnik in Lost World iirc so now it's kinda a part of the games too.
It also got in TailsTube, even the Japanese dub.

>>532712424
So do I, but by truck I mean cock.

>>532712472
You can't post it outside of JP circles without getting backlash.

>>532712424
And by my truck, I mean my penitus

Why the fuck are the Sonic movies even bringing up hitler in the first place?

>>532712357
Knuckles could also fuck other races but that would just create disgusting mutts instead of reviving the Echidnas.

>>532712406
Well look at the bright side, the ABC director himself never went on about coming up with Tails' name unlike those other SoA marketing people trying to take their slice of the pie. A humble soul in a sea of people trying to take credit for things they likely weren't involved in

Idk it just doesn't bother me much. Sonic's chilli dogs came from the west too

>>532712703
there was a whole episode in the knuckles show about juice

>>532711791
>even in porn, Shadow cucks Knuckles
Does it ever end for him?

>>532712084
>>532712232
What you guys don't understand is that the Paramount series doesn't care about its "lore" at all. I don't mean this in the way people often say "Sonic Team doesn't care about lore", because Sonic Team actually cares, in some specific aspects. Paramount just doesn't care at all whatsoever. These movies aren't about their stories or lore or characters or whatever else a Sonic fan thinks is intriguing. They're about action and comedy. Nothing more. You're not supposed to think about Longclaw, or those alien planets, or the character backstories, or the Master Emerald, or Maria, or any of those other things. Everything is an excuse to set up a joke or an action scene, or maybe a quick nostalgia reference for game fans, and you're supposed to vaguely remember it at most.

>>532712703
* taps the sign *
Israel needs (You), mister meatshield

>>532707289
>>532708507
So in other words..If I KILL every other hedgehog, Sonic will HAVE to wind up with me!

Did she have to get ALL the echidnas? It's not like the women and children were hunting for Sonic

>>532712872
Movie Sonic is especially fun to me because of this.

>He's not meant to be canon, he's his own character only loosely connected to the games so Windfags can only cope and seethe about him
>his movies are zoomerslop but still completely mog Windslop and have been a net positive for Sonic unlike Windshit

The movies completely bastardize the whole franchise and they're more successful than anything Sonic Team has done since the 2000s.

>>532712979
spookmy my beloved

The movies felt like bad fanfiction

>>532712424
And by my truck I mean my Love.

>>532712872
I mean they retconned GUN like twice now.

>>532712979
>Amy's development in Dark Brotherhood sequel after seeing Shade with the Knucklesbowl

>>532712979
>Marriage? NO WAY

>>532712716
You're right, that makes sense.

>Idk it just doesn't bother me much. Sonic's chilli dogs came from the west too
That's fine, I'm not inherently against things coming from the west. Chili dogs are a bit random but I don't think I was ever particularly angry about them or anything. Besides Black Knight and Generations made Sonic look cool with them

Shoestring budget slop franchise.

Isn't Sonic a western franchise?

>>532713084
A windnic movie could work.

>>532712979
There are literally no other hedgehogs outside of the Forces OC(who is likely canonically a wolf) and the random IDW background characters.

Amy being unattractive to Sonic is simply a problem she has with her personality since they're in a legit Adam and Eve situation as far as the games are concerned.

>>532713115
Yeah, that's what I mean. To the movies GUN isn't a major plot point or anything like that, it is a nostalgic game reference and a setup for jokes and action scenes, like anything else in the movies, those things take priority. Whatever "lore" you piece together from the movies is just an afterthought.

>>532708507
Yes. In order for one male and one female to repopulate an entire species, parent-child incest or sibling incest must occur. I feel like they might not have thought things through there...
>>532711832
This is such a funny post considering it's more popular than it's ever been and it has more basis than it's ever had before. Please try looking outside of English Twitter at some point, they're by no means representative of the entire Sonic fanbase.

>The DYKG video where Bioware explains what Shade's development would have been in Chronicles 2 uses a Mobius Unleashed panel to make the point
I am in tears. My sides are broken.

>>532713183
Why was this so hard to write into the games? Flynn simply wanted Amy to come to terms that Sonic won't return her affections so she needs to move on from him but for some reason SEGA blocked it and totally botched her writing in Frontiers.

>>532713291
>Sonikku gamesu and comikksu selling bery gud in west. but gaijin add too many weird thing zat are off brand. time to "fix it up"
>FF 27 years and one meta era later.

>Sonikku moovees selling bery gud in west. but gaijin add too many weird thing zat are off brand. time to "fix it up"

>>532712703
Because Jews control Hollywood and own everything. No shit they're going to remind you of their victim status while they repeatedly stomp on your throat.

>>532712424
And by truck, I mean my boipussy

>>532713216
I'll sleep now adiossu Teirusuburou

>>532712424
You can't afford to lose another one to her, GUN Truck driver

>>532713453
>Please try looking outside of English Twitter at some point, they're by no means representative of the entire Sonic fanbase.
There are next to no Japanese Sonic fans and I'm not running a translator to understand what the people South of the border are saying.

>>532713612
Good night Tailsbro! See you!

>>532713536
Insane

>>532701340
Shadow looks at me like that before I rape him

>>532713792
ok now I'm interested

>>532713557
Flynn wanted Amy to move on and for Sonic to yearn for her.

>>532712703
Same reason Sonic games bring up military conspiracies, alien invasions, and suicidal robots having existential crises its because"Sonic Adventure is a 1998 platform game developed by Sonic Team and published by Sega for the Dreamcast. It was the first main Sonic the Hedgehog game to feature 3D gameplay. It follows Sonic the Hedgehog, Miles "Tails" Prower, Knuckles the Echidna, Amy Rose, Big the Cat, and E-102 Gamma in their quests to collect the Chaos Emeralds and stop Doctor Ivo Robotnik from unleashing Chaos, an ancient evil."

>>532713856
Shade was supposed to be Knuckles breeding outlet
Oh wait, sorry
They said "Thanks to Shade, Knuckles finally has the potential to continue his bloodline"
Chronicles 2 was meant to end with another kaiju final boss battle.

>>532713893
This is called "character development" and it's what Sonic fans want

>>532713893
He got his wish with Prime and the last Tailstube and the movies are definitely going to follow by using Fleetway, Boom and IDW Amy while totally ignoring game Amy.

>>532711956
>douge effortlessly converting people by just being chill and presenting itself as-is
Hell yeah

>>532714069
Imagine if Game Amy had a scene like Prime Amy

>>532713998
That's not the same at all

>>532714069
The most recent TailsTube episode was written by Tyson Hesse. It's very weird that Sonic was so OOC wih Amy

>>532713536
>>532713792
I can't believe Knuckles got canonically cockblocked by Ken Penders

>>532713730
There are Japanese Sonic fans, stop repeating things you read on the internet and go look yourself. Japan is also not the only east Asian nation. It's quite popular in South Korea and China too. There's new fanart of it every single day. If a ship is getting art every day it is far from a dead ship, unless you want to argue that the Asian fans don't count in an Asian franchise.

uuuuu Tangle my girlfriend wants to have sex with me on Sunday and i feel nervous/excited i'm so straight and sad uuuu

>>532714064
Amy losing her crush is fine since it was unrequited anyways. The problem is that they're doing nothing interesting with her while making Sonic simp for her which bad for both of them.

All they had to do was drop Amy's crush and make her a cool and competent character like Shadow. Why is that so hard to do?

How to fix Knuckles in two (2) easy steps:
>make it so Tikal continues living at the end of SA1
>make it so the Master Emerald needs to stay on the ARK to prevent it from falling again at the end of SA2
That's it. Knuckles gets laid and isn't tethered to a stupid rock that doesn't do anything anymore. Now he's the cool big bro who gets pussy instead of the weird hangeron with nothing better to do.

>>532712167
I need more Sonic with eyeliner.

>>532714201
>Knuckles was literally, explicitly supposed to get laid
>He was going to have sex
>He was going to lose his virginity
>He was going to reproduce
>PENDERED

>>532714187
Hesse was definitely testing the waters with the Movie Sonic/Amy dynamic since I have no doubt in my mind Amy is causing a civil war at Paramount regarding how she should be portrayed in Movie 4.

>>532714392
>Tikal
Nah that has the potential for incest. Shade was canon Julie-Su so all they need to do is just make her canon and silence Penders.

>>532714392
Knuckles x Tikal is endgame for Angel Island. Repopulated and protected once more.

>>532714443
I just assumed everyone at Paramount already decided that Amy should be the complete opposite of who she was meant to be and that Sonic will be her incompetent shit baby who's constantly drooling at her

>>532714237
Tails is an eternal incel he would never get a gf

>>532714569
You make a good point but isn't Shade intentionally meant to look like an edgy Tikal?

>>532714054
>knuckles finally has an opportunity so save his race, rebuild his tribe and have the family he's always wanted
>"Nope lol, you belong with the slutty bat who hates your job and tried to kill you"
You'd have to be a literal, complete and utter retard who hates knuckles to ship him with rouge

>>532714569
>Nah that has the potential for incest.
nigga a three-thousand year difference don't mean shit.

>>532714569
What about Ariem?

>>532714631
Yeah but the problem is that you got legit Sonic fans like Hesse trying to show them that shouldn't be the case and he's trying to find evidence for it.

>>532693348
>Artist that left
NTA but Sorry anon, AI is the new wave for this very reason.

Eggman should fill Sonic up with plenty of hoglets

>>532714765
that's literally the AI of an ancient computer that is now sealed off for thousands of years

>>532714765
Glorified tamagotchi

>>532714745
>loses Julie-Su and Shade because of Penders
>Ariem locked in Apple Jail
>his only choice left for pussy is the slutty bat who is going through a mastectomy
The saddest part is that Knuckles had a legit relationship with Julie-Su. It was nothing like the cringeshit Sonic had with Sally, Amy and Elise or the cuckshit Tails had with Fiona and Mina

>>532714187
The Paramount Knuckles series literally compares the echidna genocide, something only really elaborated on in SA1, to the Holocaust
For better or for worse SA1 introduced more mature story telling and heavier consequences to the Sonic series and it is a direct line of inspiration for the creative leads of the Paramount universe

>>532713291
Created japanese people, still made by japanese people, and overseen by japanese people? That doesn't sound very western to me.

>>532714765
Ariem would be good. You can tell because whenever you bring up her and knuckles momthrowers get angry.

WAGMI

>>532715085
Maybe I'm underestimating kids of today but isn't it still a bit extreme to directly bring up the holocaust in a kids show? That's just insane to me. I know it's not like they sat down and discussed it indepth or anything but it's a fucking Knuckles show about bowling.

Sonic and Amy will somehow end up together. I don't know how but they will.

The Sonic Chronicles sequel that was STOLEN from us.

>>532714795
That makes sense, but if Hesse is on the game canon side why did he end up writing TailsTube like that then? Is he conceding to them?

>>532714631
They could go the safe route and it's just the Boom dynamic where she's just his naggy not-gf and he's her lazy not-bf.

Movienic is even getting the Boom Sonic proportions and Movie Amy will definitely be based on Boom Amy.

uuuu Tangle i'm watching King of the Hill and i'm drunk af that boy ain't right i tell you hwat and i still feel scared of my girlfriend uuuuu

>>532715256
It'll be like Sonic X. Specifically the French dub since iirc he literally says "I love you"

>>532715256
>Sonic x Amy
>Tails x Cream
>Knuckles x Ariem
Total endgame.

>>532715315
He did that so he can collect the Screencaps from the reactions to it. If enough people complain, he has a legit case to bring to Paramount.

>>532715406
Tails x Cream is bullshit, they never interact and Cream pays more attention to every other male than Tails

>>532715406
It fits perfectly and manages to make most of the major ships happy.

>>532715448
If you're right then I regret giving up on Amy. Let's complain some more

>>532715481
Ok, so... Tails x Forever Aloneliness.

>>532715315
Wait so what's going on with TailsTube? I don't watch it

Knuckles is going to be made gay to do away with all the Knuxouge and echidna repopulation stuff. They've already started teasing it.

>>532715574
that's better

when will you people learn the only ship that is constant is Sonic x Eggman?

it's Britney Bitch

gentlemen. the puzzle fits just fine. its just that it causes a plenty of seethe

>>532715598
Knuckles is literally being shipped with Ultra MILFs!!

>>532715598
>all of them thousands of years old
Knuckles really likes his GGGGGGGGGGGGGGILFs, doesn't he?

>>532715591
In the most recent episode the characterizations were mostly fine, but at some point Sonic randomly becomes overly excited to talk to Amy and make a good impression on her, and Amy doesn't care. It's very weird and out of place in an otherwise fine episode

>>532715598
Knuckles should fuck all three just to hedge his bets

>>532715526
The time to raise make your voice heard is now until Movie 4, anon. Never give up!

>>532715286
>Eggman shoots at an apocalyptic threath with a fucking giant cannon, and Super Sonic is the bullet
Probably a coincidence, but still funny

>>532715720
*wants to make a good impression

>>532715406
>Tails x Cream
These two characters have spoken like 4 lines of dialogue together and they are all involve Cream not giving a shit about Tails and instead talking about someone else.

>>532715685
the optimal pairings and rouge trying to steal knuckles from the ME

>>532715720
Is it any different in the JP version? Cause I've read that JP Amy is still close to how she's always been

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

>>532715685
>>532715882
tails and cream don't fit at all. Cream kisses Sonic's and Knuckles' asses and never ever thinks Tails is cool

the one thing knuxouge has over shadouge is that rouge has to look upward to make eye contact with knuckles and downward to make eye contact with shadow

>>532715887
I don't know if the Japanese version is out yet. For the previous season of TailsTube they just made Japanese subtitles and then released the Japanese dub of all the episodes all at once after it was over. I assumed that the dub just faithfully translated it from English without making changes, but I have no proof of this, I don't think anyone who speaks Japanese made a comparison

>>532714849
Chibisper instead of the usual Chubbysper

uuuuuuuuuu tangle i be gay n shieet

>>532715962
i'm just shitposting i think all the pairs in that picture are shit

>>532715887
nta but last I checked JP dub wasn't out yet.
I thought they stopped doing them entirely since they had subs, but then they released a bunch at once and caught up.
(I have a feeling it's just bad voice direction though.)

>>532715249
The Knuckles series is PG, so its suitable for the 12 and up audience, which is also around the age range for the Sonic franchise as a whole ; personally, I don't think that's too young to learn about the Holocaust, and usually its a good thing when kids media doesn't talk down to their audience
How old were you when you played SA1?

>>532716084
bruh, sneed

What is so interesting about Sonic and Amy's new dynamic?

>>532715903
>>532716036

>>532716154
canon ship (eggman's fat ass x whisper's ribcage being crushed)

>>532715286
Nobody:

Not a single soul:

Not even a cricket:

Bioware: KNUCKLES WILL CUM INSIDE OF SHADE IN SONIC CHRONICLES 2

THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE SWEATY UNPROTECTED SEX HE WAS GOING TO EMPTY HIS CANONICAL BALLS INSIDE OF HER

SHE WAS GOING TO BARE HIS CHILDREN
ECHIDNA BREEDING MATERIAL HYUGGA STYLE

>>532715685
If you're doing Sonaze then you should be doing Tairine

>>532716136
It opens the door to other Amy ships. That's all there is to it

>>532716136
>She's not a stalker and now Sonic wants to spend time with her!

>>532716136
They Boomified it and now it's all but confirmed Sonic likes her too but they spill their spaghetti at each other because they're retards at romance.

>>532716152
>cnc
>cnc
>cnc
>cnc
>gnf
>gnf

>>532716008
>>532716086
I swear the writers don't know what they want to do with Amy. Seems like literally every single time she appears she's different. Just a few months ago in IDW she was reminiscent of her 2000s self

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu bish

>>532716284
tails and marine aren't canon, in the canon game she pays the most attention to Sonic and thinks Sonic is cooler than Tails. She also declares Sonic her first mate and considers Sonic the cool hero and not Tails.

>>532716387
self-inserter hands typed this post

taangle im so gay boiiiiii

>>532716387
>She also declares Sonic her first mate
hot

What are you up to in this friday night, /sthg/?

>>532716298
That's because Evan thinks Amy was at her best in games like Battle, Heroes, 06 and even thinks Sonic X was a good portrayal of Amy so she writers her based on that.

Other writers just see that Boom Amy was far less divisive so they write her based on that since it gets less complaints

>>532716469
cope tailspedo it's canon she thinks Sonic is way better than Tails as a man and thinks Sonic is the coolest

>>532716507
i'm drunk as fuck i drank one and a half litres of asahi and im watching king of the hill and im crying while posting pictures of Whisper kek

>>532716478
Stop consuming sugar and fats and work out more you absolute BLOB

Mina only liked Tails because Sonic wasn't an option.

>>532716520
I guess that makes sense

>>532716642
uuuuuu Queerphobic chudcel alert can we denormalise this???

>>532715286
>Super Sonic isn't enough to defeat argus, and during what is presumably the game's final boss fight, Eggman has to fire Super Sonic out of his "mega death laser" to even beat the Boss's first phase

Wait just a fuckin minute dere

>>532716726
No

Give me a way to animate this.

>>532716681

>>532716639
... I see

>>532716639

>>532716841
Taking off with like 40 Knuckles chained to his throne.

>>532715286
>>532716203
Guys, what if it wasn't the lawsuits that killed Chronicles canon, but instead, the unnamed crazy BioWare employee who told Sonic Team in graphic detail how Knuckles is going to save the echidnas by having ooga-booga jungle-sex with their OC Shade?

uuuu tangle look at me im a fat gay wolf and i cry a lot and act insane because muh trauma aren't i so cool

>>532716941
I love how emotive these models are

>>532717003
>"So after this point in the game, Knuckles and Shade get a new POW move that's really intense, we'll play the test animation for you"
>Iizuka winces and smiles awkwardly

>>532716387
Marine thinks Tails is an amazing genius, she's impressed and inspired by his skills in building ships. She likes him

should I draw some Tails and Princess Peach art? I kinda want to. Any ideas?

>>532717342
facefucking on the beach

>>532717319
she likes Chadnic way more, tailspedo. all she does is pay tails a second of attention when he builds the jetski, then she makes sonic the chad race it and fight johnny with it, not FAILS

>>532716960

>>532716960
.

In Sonic X, Cosmo mentions Tails 11 times and Sonic 49 times
Checkmate. I can prove it too.

>>532717319
>Own a freaky alchemical book about using weird gemstones to build fucking vehicles
>Can't do shit about it, beyond the basics
>One day, some motherfucker appears out of nowhere, and speedruns the whole thing in a matter of days
I would be impressed as well

>>532716684
I just don't understand where does SEGA lay down the law with Amy. They blocked Flynn from removing her Sonic crush but they do nothing when other writers ignore that aspect of her character and even give it to Sonic to reverse their dynamic.