>News
July 17 update: New Card Set
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Release Missions
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>Second Card Set: Infinity Evolved
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https://shadowverse.gg/set-2-expansion-card-list-spoilers-and-details/
https://shadowverse-wb.com/en/deck/cardslist/?page=1&class=0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7&cost=0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10&card_set=10002

>Gacha Leaders: Filene, Aether, Titania
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa58Bv-AhTE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz39lemy5kQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS5VQPHLCFE

>Battle Pass Leader: Silvarius
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzb2Oq-L0j4


>Resource Guide (decks, tier lists, guilds):
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>Worlds Beyond Trailer
[YouTube] Shadowverse: Worlds Beyond – Release Date Trailer
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Official deck portal
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Shadowverse Anime
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Shadowverse Evolve TCG
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/svg/'s card & leader database and deckbuilder (classic)
https://svgdb.me

Previous: >>532488038
And a friendly reminder to ignore schizo threads and just bake new proper ones.

>>532699882 (OP)
sorry I was seething about the schizo.
actual previous thread: >>532673004

It starts as a whir. A shudder passing through the leaves. Then the trees start writhing, like wounded animals. Not long after, the swarm is upon you. It's in that moment that death emerges from the cocoon of concept, metamorphized into fact.

you are also a schizo btw

>>532699882 (OP)
pls help me stop being poor ykwYqjj

What is sex with Gildaria like?

I need a guild

Just won against runenigger because of balto. Eat shit runetumor

Its incredible how bad going first is, every single deck is instantly at a massive disadvantage if you lose the coinflip

PaXMsL3
Please use my invite code I don't deserve it.

Play haven
https://files.catbox.moe/teb6dw.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/fdzhdo.mp4

>>532700469
Generally quiet yet fulfilling.

>aggro abyss mirror
>go first
>lose
sugoi

How many guilds are still alive?

>>532700843
tanoshii is alive and well

>>532700545
>Apollo
Kuso deck

Fucking hate when I play against the swordbabs with the greediest lists possible.

Norman needs to cost 7 and he should cost 2 earth sigils

>>532700936
Without apollo you will always be clenching your ass for salefia. If you lose control of board early as haven you will be playing catch up rest of the game.

>>532701049
then he would conflict with Kuon and well we can't have that

>>532700494
Aggro decks very much want to go first bro

>>532701071
Hmm, not him but you make a fair point.
I don't run him currently but perhaps I should.

>>532701049
He's perfectly costed to slot in between A&G and Kuon, it's by design. Next set they're giving them something broken to play on 3 or 4. So they can play broken shit from turn 3 to 10. I expect a Levi that does bullshit too much on fanfare, and has an evo effect on top, and has like 3/3 statline for 3 or 4.

>Lishenna thumbnail
>playing Forest
What's his endgame?

>>532700612
You're just bad

>>532701357
>>532701158
Rune should have to choose between spellboost and dirt

>>532701352
2 of them should be enough, it's not that great outside of early game, but it can have some useful tech later like getting rid of barriers

8pp gain crest: ward followers gain storm
This will save havencraft

>remove sword from the game
>remove rune from the game
>remove portal from the game
How much fun is suddenly being had with no more soulless jeetcrafts?

>>532701529
Haven needs to be able to do things before turn 5

>>532700494
Going first has been advantageous in largely every high tier match up since launch...

WB Acid Golem
4pp 4/4
Fanfare: Earth Rite (1) Choose one:
Deal 5 damage to an enemy
Deal 3 damage to all enemies
Evolve: Repeat this card's fanfare

>>532701494
Rune will win and you will lose gaijin.
That is the decree of KMR san.

Do you stop playing the moment you get your 5 chests?

>>532701769
WB stands for well balanced btw

>>532701589
>jeetcrafts
I bet this is a reddit term too

>>532701978
Chests are best viewed as a bonus I only get however many I get while playing normally every day. Chest event is ass so you're best off ignoring it

>>532701373
>[Shadowverse WB] If you're going to play ranked now, use a deck that can beat Royal Pro Rank Match [Infinity Evolved]
Seems pretty simple

>>532701071
But it bricks aether the only reason id even play this shit class other than emoting waow

>>532701978
If I'm running into Ward, Abyss, Sword Dragon and Forest I keep playing.
If I'm only running into Runetards and Polturds I go do something worth doing.

>>532701978
I don't care about chests, I play until I am ready to stop.

>>532701978
No, Shadoba tanoshii!

>>532702216
Aether is shit card

>>532701260
>>532701690
Nope

>>532701978
Too many runenigs around lately so I stop playing after 5 chests

This is the face of runecraft players

>>532701978
I stopped playing the moment I got the Odin sleeves.

2pp 2/2 runecraft follower
Evolve: Get a 1pp spell
1pp spell: deal 3 damage to an enemy
Thoughts?

>>532702467
runiggers...

>>532701978
when it takes me 3 hours to get the 5 chests, no

They sure made sure the wards are relevant I run the class specific wards in all of my decks

>>532702339
Yes retard. There isn't a card game on earth where aggro doesn't want to go first. I promise you if you start keeping track of your games you will realize that you win going first more often than not.

>>532701978
Yes.

No reason to play outside of events until GM is added.

Remove samurai. Remove gunslinger girl. Remove prim. Remove valse. Remove rose.

>>532702525
honestly dont think he knows what hes doing but the deck is just idiot proof

>>532702042
>hating indians is reddit
ok shitdeep.

>>532702520
Fine as long as it’s a cute girl and not some old man or some shit.

>Ronavero sevo is havens actual wincond against sword now that nobody runs divine thunder
I suppose I can still snipe it with princesses spell if they play it early but haven is non issue anyways

>>532702467
Now it all makes sense

>>532702552
Not in a game where going second immediately puts you 2pp and 1 card ahead of your opponent

>>532702660
its over.....

>>532701978
game doesn't work on my 6 year old chinkphone and i have better things to do at home
the 1-2 hours i spend on chest already feel like shit

Does sword even have a unfavorable matchup?

Prove to me why super evo makes followers completely immune to destruction and damage on your turn and pings for 1. You can't

>>532702339
Every pro level set we've seen since launch has added like a 20% advantage towards the first turn player side

>>532702813
Aggro needs to go first because it prefers having a consistent curve and being anle to dictate the pace of the game over clutching on power spikes. The main perk to going first in Aggro Abyss is coining Beryl on turn 1 and if I face that shit in the mirror I am hitting her ass with Razory Claw and keeping it pushing

>>532702467
Hes losing every game...

>>532702943
artifact and it's still like 60-40 at worst

Consider using my code shadowbabs, 3JxZVL4.
0/20 and still in need of rupies.

>>532702943
Dragon should be, too bad It's such a meme they lose to sword as well.

Everything I keep building for this class sucks in my mind

>>532702943
Rune

>start swording
>win streak
>get to sapphire after slumming it in topaz with ramp since the new pack
Tanoshii

This game is so fucking shit

>>532703020
the 7pp slot and superevo is too much of a powerspike that aggro wants too

>>532702943
Surprisingly it has a few like artifact, some forest variants and dirt midrange. The problem is that any disadvantage it has is slight and to decks that fold to a ton of other shit while Sword itself is overwhelmingly strong against most decks while only barely losing to its weaknesses

>>532702943
Their worst matchups are basically 50:50. Their entire deck excels at essentially every stage of the game.

>>532703114
>Class is named dragon
>Half the deck is gay fish
At least blood and shadow died with dignity.

>>532703129
>sword
You cheated not only the game, but yourself. You didn't grow. You didn't improve. You took a shortcut and gained nothing. You experienced a hollow victory. Nothing was risked and nothing was gained. It's sad that you don't know the difference.

anyone got a charon-less control abyss? i have every other legendary
i rather not craft 3 copies of an expensive, worse lumi mage

>>532703220
It is but it isn't vital. You want to force the opponent to play in response to you and it's much easier to do that when going first

>>532702943
Artifact spamming their 3 damage ship.
>>532703108
Dragon is a case of it being such a fucking brick it loses to itself. On the rare cases it doesn't, twilight destroys nearly all boards

>>532703320
Fish cards going on are going to be even more core than dragon cards since they all fucking heal until neptune rotates out they fucked up not making neptune the legendary

>>532701978
No, unlike some people here I don't struggle with chests and play the game for fun

Poor little aggrokek

>Play midrange abyss
>never topdeck
>Play aggro abyss
>always topdeck
What the fuck man...

>>532703367
Just try replacing the Charons with Darkseal Demon or Rayven, Silver Bullet. Charon isn't key to the deck. She's just trying to get a bit of a tempo swing and virtual card advantage. Darkseal gets you cards and usually blows one thing up. Rayvn blows multiple things up.

The -2HP from either can be an issue when facing down albert lethal though. LMAO 12 HP from hand with no setup.

>>532703569
look how sad you made Nio...

>>532703569
I think I see him and cerb more than I see Diawl.

I think forcing yourself to use bad decks that don't work and shaming anyone for using good decks that do work is retarded, actually. If you want to be a snowflake bitchboy go back to Hearthstone.

>>532702943
Portal and rune shit all over sword, abyss and forest are 50/50, dragon and haven are losing because they're weak not because sword is strong, the deck just shit out followers, it doesn't do anything and has no real wincon

>>532703020
Meant for >>532702782

So imagine this scenario
You walk into the forest
the fairies and elves think you are a poacher
So they try to beat you up, torture you, feed you to the forest creatures (they fail, since the rest of the forest knows you are not evil)
And then they realize they were mistaken
so now Aria has to come out and personally apologize to you
She tells you she will do anything in her power to compensate you

What would you ask for?

>>532702943
Artifact. Artifact is dogshit against aggro abyss and rune though so i just swap to aggro abyss for now (the best cheapest deck right now)

>>532703582
>A deck with a lighter and more aggressive mana curve is more consistent than greedy, top heavy horseshit
Duh

>>532703264
>>532703397
>artifact
If you play alouette gamma on turn 5 in response to a zirconia evo turn 4 with a valse and luminous lancer still on board, you already took 5 to the face
And every turn you copy boots is a turn not spent healing out of albert range or actually dealing damage. And sword has more card draw so eventually you're not going to have a response to a full amalia board, or jeno, or even a luminous board threatening 7 damage. And albert can kill the gundam and threaten lethal next turn while you're out of resources

>>532703814
The will to live and the ability to find joy in life.

>>532703736
Portal is dogshit this set. They should beat sword, but in practice its like a 60/40 at best.

>>532702943
>all the sword downplayers replying to this post

>>532702520

>>532703691
Nio is pretty cute (and bully bait). I dont think i will swap to cerb even if i get her leader (waiting for bampi)

>>532703814
money

>>532703814
More time

>>532703814
>What would you ask for?
To see my wife and kids just one more time..

>>532702520
It should spellboost twice for fanfare.

>>532703814
More wishes!

So Sword have had Zirconia 29 out of 30 games on curve. Can't the Cygames be sued big time for rigging their shuffler this blatantly?

You know what abyss needs? More shota and loli leader!

>>532703814
Is Aria fairy sized or normal sized?

>>532704549
>Shota
Yes
>Loli
No, I want tits

>>532703814
the rights to breed her anus

>cancel matchmaking
>instantly thrown into game

>>532704541
i was playing sword earlier and seriously didn't zirconia on 4 going second for like 15 games. i kept going first too, i tanked to ruby because the majority of my matches are sword mirrors or rune(that have anne to punish my lack of zirconia)

>never draw what you need against the deck your facing
>the jp Op has everything on perfect curve

I'm gonna make a new account in JP with a VPN so I get all the rigging

>>532705169
Works on my machine t.Amerilard

what are >we watching right now

>trying to find streamer to watch
>all people are playing is rune and fucking sword

>creat new deck
>game doesn't auto switch to it

There's unironically no counter play to rune, you can't realistically prevent them spellboosting

>>532705589
I think it's just roach or nothing isn't it

>>532705589
You aggro them down
>but muh healing
They’re using all their pp on healing doing nothing

Patch changlog:

Dimension Climb
30pp

Anne Grea
Only spellboost if evolved. Golem has 5/3 stat.

William
8pp

Artes
6pp only summon 1 onion. Need super evo for crest

Onion
Leader strike : spell boost 2

Norman
7pp, earth rite 5. At the end of turn refund 2.

Gildaria
8pp, rally 30

Luminous lancetrooper
3pp

Luminous magus
6pp

Valse
5pp

Zirconia
6pp

Amalia
9pp

Amelia
7pp, need super evo for effect

>>532700494

>>532705710
they heal and then setup 2 barrier wards + 7/7 body, there goes your aggro plan

AYYYYY made it back to ruby. Time to tilt down to emerald.

>>532705589
I do well against them as Aggro Abyss until I run into the one fucker using pure Dirt Rune.

>>532705834
Titania makes my pp hard

>>532703582
Aggro Abyss is designed to top deck anon. It's the whole game plan your deck is designed around.

>>532705729
... how does this help Rune and Sword stay top 2?

how is this balanced, turn 7 kuon board with ward up and you get hit in face for 30

forest is still best deck just too hard for people to play

>mulligan 3 cards
>redraw the exact same ones

>>532704541
Don't you know? 10/10 for 4pp is bricking by sword standards.

>>532706091
who's the streamer?

>>532705589
I consistently kill rune on 5 before Norman can come down with aggro abyss. I only lose to perfect curve pure dirt.

>>532706091
Okay now show the hand at the start of the turn.

>Lose 3 in a row
>Switch deck
>Win streak starts
>Lose 3 in a row
>Switch deck
>Win streak starts
I cracked the code

>>532701814
Based. FUCK swordjeets. Thank you KMR for looking out for us runeGODS.

>mulligan cynthia
>redraw cynthia
>draw cynthia

This stupid bitch is about to get removed from my fucking deck

>>532706460
she's the only good card in your deck...

looks like the wuwajeet gacha trannies are in this thread oh i bet you faggots want a ten roll fuck off faggot and die

Norman fanfare should be earthrite 4

I don't care that Sword is top tier, it's simply the most fun deck to play right now
The only one that comes close for me is Storm Haven last set

>>532706091
>3 roaches on board
>with that much attack
what the FUCK

>>532706548
she's a fucking brick without aria

>>532706460
evos are for glade and amataz
a combo enabler/hand filler for twinkletoes fills the same winmore role as cynthia and can also be used for other combos

>>532703814
Peehole fisting!

>Abysskek wants to do a necromancy effect
>that's gonna be like 8 shadows to do a thing
>runetumor wants to do an earthrite thing
>hmmmm. One dirt sounds fair. You rike?

>>532706958
I don't run amataz

>>532704085
Do you have the image of Arisa holding up PtP and saying its really hard to get 30 shadows

>>532706695
Do people get bothered if their deck is strong? Good for you anon, play what's fun!

>>532702710
I made some dumb mistakes at beginning here but yeah this deck basically eats current sword and puppet portal alive, it'll stop working if more people start meming like me. Sucks against abyss and rune though, doable but very rough.

https://files.catbox.moe/e08l3w.mp4

>play a bunch of games
>win everyone
>get promoted back to ruby
>CHEST AVALIABLE
>lose
>CHEST AVALIABLE
>lose
>CHEST AVALIABLE
>lose

I'm about to get demoted right back lmao

Still can't figure out why they renamed Amatsu to Amataz in English

>>532707456
americans

>>532707456
You better find out.

>>532707246
There's a lot of people that are dogshit and want their claim to fame to be playing a pile of unplayable garbage. This is the case for almost every card game and they're a very insufferable and obnoxious type.

>portal still gets 20 minutes to merge shit

Seriously who was the retard that gave RUNE of all classes the best healing in the game?!?!?

>didn;t see this stupid bitch for 5 games
>my past 3 games be like

>>532705710
>They’re using all their pp on healing doing nothing
>1pp remove anything
>0pp 3/3 rush
>1pp ping 2 draw 2
>2pp deal 4 to 2 different followers
hmmm

>>532707707
If sagelight was a neutral spell no one else would play it except maybe forest, it's just that rune gets a spellboost from it and it effectively costs 0 because you can cast all 3 from one dclimb on turn 9

This game would be better without win conditions.
20 round slap fights are fun.

>didn't see this stupid bitch for 5 games
>my past 3 games be like

the swordnegro itself is online
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydp1FVrGjt8

>>532707964
And Norman healing 8 for essentially nothing.

>>532707964
doesn't haven also have a 3pp heal 4?

he didnt have 3 meidos before right

>>532708076
>40% win rate
sword upplayer bros... we're getting exposed...

>>532708217
Its 2 and then 1 which is better

>>532708217
2pp amulet that has 1pp engage for 4hp heal, only useful if you play aggro with agnes / colette

How to fix Norman. His fanfare is now Earthrite 4.

>>532706183
>>532706240
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2522482468?t=1h41m22s

I love having just enough to get lethal

>>532708398
detective lens is free to engage and can bypass wilbert, celestial, and other single wards so I don't see how there's any room for it even in amulet

Tried making a budget roach deck to get the 5 wins in ranked feat and lost like 5 games in a row before winning one game.

>>532708526
I don't play roach, what's the play

>>532708304
>No Amalia
I'm assuming Amalia is for a more control variant of the deck, and what he's running is more midrange?

>>532708879
Odin fairy fairy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fxAEjqKjyI
>5 winstreak with every craft
smart to have dragon last

>>532709014
Evo as well.

>>532709014
oh I didn't realize Aria gave a crest

>>532708879
This is tempo forest, Aria gives you a crest that gives all your fairies storm.

So I already got those 2.
Are there any other worth packs to get or something? I don't want to buy the overpriced crystals bullshit.

>>532709039
>derank to emerald.
>get your five wins with each craft.
Wow so hard...

Should I play your card game i haven't played one in years

We need GM next season or the player retention is gonna be worse.

>>532708901
It's just kagemitsu sword without kagemitsu, no amalia because you concede if tentacle doesn't kill
I don't know why kagemitsu is cut, he can do a lot of damage with dark side now. I also don't know why the dogs are back

>>532709383
Only if you're prepared to spend money on it every month. It's too late to start as a f2p player

>youtubeのコメ欄に来た夏休みキッズムカついたからごめんけど即バンした。煽りコメするなら文末にダイヤ率添えろタコ

I missed it

>>532709248
all the bundurus are EXTREMELY high value

Remember when /svg/ thought this card would be bad?

>nice winstreak going
>CHEST AVALIABLE
>fuckthat.webp
>quit after mulligan
>chest disappears
>restart winstreak

*clears throat*

Shadowverse is NOT a game about playing a unique deck that you’ve come up with on your own
Shadowverse is NOT a game about ensuring all your cards achieve their maximum potential
Shadowverse is NOT a game about ensuring you remove all your opponent’s followers
Shadowverse is NOT a game about removing and/or outlasting every resource in the opponent’s deck
Shadowverse is NOT a game about countering your opponent’s strategy
Shadowverse is NOT a game about executing the most complex strategy
Shadowverse is NOT a game about playing “honest” decks and not pursuing “cheap” strategies

Shadowverse IS a game about reducing your opponent’s life total to 0 or less before they do the same to you.
Hope that clears things up for you.

My invite code is yxd7ZuJ.

>>532709651
It's a 9pp do nothing in a tier 2 deck.

>no take two
>no mini games
>stingy economy
>expensive decks
>no vialing unwanted cards
>polarized unwinnable match ups
>huge class bias and dev favoristism
>all meaningful rewards hidden behind lottery winning odds or unlikely tourney wins or insane ranked grinds
They're speed running EoS.

>>532709651
I've never seen it get played once yet, is the animation cute and funny at least?

>keeps losing with artifact and midrange sword
>switch to aggro sword
>win streak
>kill runetumor for free
>good match up against aggro abyss because they hit themselves
Why the fuck aren't you playing aggro?

>>532709714
I'm going to make multiple accounts, use your code on all of them, and then delete them.

whats SVO

What are your thoughts on this card?

reminder forest is still best deck and counters sword and rune

https://x.com/mattsu__sv/status/1948921978284548390

>Spellboost can use all the dirt cards better than dirt can
So depressing i

>>532709638
I can't see the bundurus on steam anymore...

>>532709714
Based Icey.

>>532709991
take two filler

>>532710050
The dirt effects need to cost more dirt so that they need to commit to dirt.

>>532709991
If I were forced to put it in might use it to tutor ravening tentacles in a slightly aggro sword, then not use band of battle princesses or knightly rending

>>532710191
That way you're just punishig dirt for no reason

>>532709761
I could forgive all of this if they would just let me liquefy every Rune card I own

>>532709948
https://www.svo.gg/

>>532707707
My humble petcraft needs it, bro.

How am I supposed to beat this?

>>532709651
It kinda is. I was wrong about it thinking it would be better.

>>532710410
man those tournaments always look so complicated

>>532710646
>he didn't get band of battle princesses
>he got out aggroed by dragon
laughingknights.jpg

>>532708118
Norman needing 1 Earth Rite is absolutely stupid. It's clearly made so it can be used in spellboost without issue.

>>532710646
Way too strong. Dragon nerfs when?

>>532709761
>no in match stickers like they promised
>blantant rigging for JP players

Despite all this shit I still love the game.

>>532709991
at first glance i thought he was holding an ak47

>>532710047
>drops lumnious or amalia
>didn't draw glade
>lose

oh cygenerous

>>532711073
You just need 18 more leggos to craft the deck!

>>532710646
+1pp evo valse samurai
but it's already too late anon

>>532709651
>comes out on the turn right before all the big finishers are online and ready to facefuck you
>neither effects really protect you from them
i have seen her maybe twice
then the abysskek died to my pachinko double 5pp genesis because control match ups are free
could just be a match up issue where she is useless into dragon

>anne grea's golem reduced to a 3/3, spellboost reduced to 2
>norman's heal reduced to 3, golems no longer have barrier but gain rush, earth rite cost increased to 2
>spell heal reduced to 3
>kuon deleted from the game
Was that so hard?

>Anne is now a choose effect: either summon the 5/5 ward rush or spellboost 3 times
>onions no longer have the clash. bergent crest now puts a 1pp spell in your hand at the start of the turn that summons an onion

>>532711258
just make the 3 spellboost a death effect on the 5/5 ward so you can banish the cocksucker and fuck them over or they are forced to trade it away to spam the rushes

If rune gets nerfed sword deserves even more nerfs

>>532711453
No sword does not deserve more nerfs than the class with 50 health and automatically wins on turn 10

>>532711258
>kill dirt for no reason
Just fucking nerf that faggot kuon and Dclimb

How am I supposed to read these charts?
What is 中央?
Median?

>>532711002
I was about to ask if we had many cards with guns before I remembered literally all of Rivayle.

>>532711603
Just use google translate it can do images now and it should be good enough

>>532711258
They're not going to touch the golem since it's a named thing. So instead remove the spellboost entirely.

>>532711670
it translate to "center" but not sure if that is to be understood as median

The game has room for up to 5 crests and some of the shit we have no is pretty insane. I can only image at what stupid bullshit rune and sword are going to get in the future

>>532711751
Average uses yeah, median mean w/e

My fuarking hero

>quest says play more spells/followers
>I play as many as I can before going through the lethal and look like an asshole
It's the quests I swear

>>532711790
I imagine they'll print a card that let's you delete an enemy crest

>zirdonia becomes a 3/3, now only summons one 1/1 with rush that gets buffed
>valse fanfare damage reduced to 3
>luminous mage only summons two bodies
>amalia only summons two bodies, no longer provides +1/0
>jeno's attack twice now requires an evolution
Am I a genius or something?

>>532711603
bruh there is a gif above is simple as fuck

>>532711882
rip tempo forest lmao

>>532709651
It is bad

I'm gonna play and win the three round tourney bros

>>532711603
damn sad most people aren't running mah dawgs I still feel like these guys are so good
They solo coined out wilbert(after he traded) that shit alone makes them worth imo

>>532712010
Like every other event in this game it's gonna be rigged so only a nip can win

>tired of sword after 100ish matches
>craft dirt and boost
>first match
I am being punished

>>532712178
That's what your opponent's hand looks like every single game
Kind of impressive now, isn't it?

>>532712178
where dirt?

>>532712358
In another list

>>532712010
fugg I'm getting anxiety just thinking about the weekend tourney again...

Satan got new girlfriend.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Vvy0suMOrTI

>>532712538
Just play the three round swiss bwo. Let all the try hards beat each other and keep everyone hostage in their five rounds

>>532711603
This data is interresting since its aggregating decklists together

I need him back.

Artifact or puppets?

I fucking hate my senpai

>>532713078
arti is too weak early when abyss and sword are half the games

ok i ddint expect that, thank kmr i ddint try to read spoilers here

>>532713078
I think puppet stonks will go up in set 3, it's one of the best shells for neutral cards

>>532711603
>What is 中央?
>Median?
yes. and right beside it 平均 is average

>>532713082
I will seethe if I get 9pp bricks on second pack

>>532709651
They are still mediocre, I will replace them in a heartbeat after Abyss gets an actual wincon.

>>532713082
Rude.

>Test vs ai if I can consistently beat my sword deck with other crafts
>If I can the deck is viable in ladder
So far only my rune hybrid can do it and pure dirt runs out of gas too fast

Hmmmm
Maybe they are on to something with Sarissa.

so done with artifact
theres nothing i can do into rune
what deck can i make that beats it

>>532713227
>pink portalsissy beam is charged up to 500%
>target: anon
>FIRE!!!!

>>532713740
Rune?
Aggro abyss.

Just went against a roach who forgot to attack with the roach when they put it back into play then conceded. I'm sorry, roachbro. You won that match in my eyes, I was dead.

>>532713740
The answer is always Roach

m u h
i think you could repopulate couple of planets with her
sadly i dont trust the flying (((thing)))
i wish there was a new site with fully datamined assets, i want to see all those sprites in their full glory

which nip streamer watch watching?

>>532713867
Unless they draw their sagelights and Norman. Then abyss just balks at their 40 effective HP.

>>532713640
You can fight decks you construct yourself?

>>532714072
Only if you own the cards.

>>532710410
naisu

Ruby's pretty comfy bros, haven't faced a swordummy in my last five games.

>>532709714
Holy based

>>532710410
>can't join anymore
no....

>>532707964
Sagelight is better in spellboost than in dirt even which is fucking insane

>>532714071
You kill them before that.
The bigger issue is having Aragavy for A&G

I've determined lamp needs to run grimnir

>>532709991
Useless right now but I wouldn't be surprised to someday see a spell good enough that you put together 37 followers and 3 of that for consistency

>>532714842
hehehhehe
elephoont

>>532713740
>so done with artifact
artifact is so bad right now
>fucked if you don't generate enough core
>also fucked because your core generators are basically vanilla
>and fucked super hard if you don't get any combo that can copy abuse artifact in hand
>don't forget they get ton of new combo cards (icaros, jasper) but still worse than real combo deck (roach) because they could brick your hand early game and do nothing topdecked late game

>>532714842
Based dirtGOD

>>532713740
You know what must be done

>>532714842
I thought this was a fake card when I first saw this image.

shadowverse threads are dead. Svg lobby is dead. It's over.

>get to sapphire
>suddenly all draws brick
yeah the account is seeded

>>532715142
that's what happens when you have a tier0 meta on your second expansion

>>532703972
Uh, bro? Your Shadoba? Tanoshii??

>>532709991
It's insane to me that this card counts as mid to brick tier in sword, you babies are so spoiled.

Now that nips are complaining on every twatter post about the meta, can we finally expect to see changes to the pet crafts?

>>532715319
Sword isn't a spell-focused class

>>532715142
Good, I can hang out with my gf in peace.

>>532715442
Is the meta really that bad?

>>532709651
I play control sword and control abyss is the only thing that can grind me out.
I can still go under control abyss sometimes, thank you KMR for balanced meta

https://github.com/SVGWBTools/Wizard2AssetsUnpacker
i found somethign interesting (asset ripper)
i hope some wizard anon can make use of it

>>532715613
What do you run in your CSword?

>>532715319
This card is actually very good but;
1) He only works going first
2) He only works played on turn 4
3) You cant draw the single spell in your deck beforehand
4) You have to have him on turn 4 as your single copy
If all that happens he is insane

She's such a brick bros...

>>532714604
>killing them before they can heal
Only if they completely brick and spend their turns doing literally nothing.

>>532715613
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>control sword
does not exist
please learn your terms.

>>532715585
It's pretty bad.

kino...

>>532715802
I literally don't know how to deal with that card, I usually just concede.

t.tempo forest

Reminder if you dont know how bad the meta is

>>532715916
I had this happen as aggro abyss and still lost to do nothing except accumulate dirt for multiple turns into AG, AG, Norman, Norman

>>532715458
That makes him even better since he's probably tutoring the spell that in your follower heavy deck instead of a simple draw effect.

Am I supposed to be running 3 draconic strike 3 burnite which i dont have you cant fucking stabilize games

>>532715738
2x Yurius, 2x Amalia, 2x Jeno, 3x Gidaria and Amelia, 2 Alberts. The rest is your usual midrangey stuff.
>>532715924
I could make it a real control grinder list if I took out some of the earlygame and made it even more top heavy, but there's no point in doing so because you'd just lose more vs anything that's not another control deck.

>>532716107
How's tempo forest? I lost to it a couple times and it seems more fun than the old roach deck.

>>532715802
I don't think I've ever lost against anyone who played that card to field.

Let dragon be good

>>532716380
feet tax

>odin the godwood staff
I almost feel bad... almost...

>>532714963
Artifact fell off despite getting cards that really help it in a vacuum. Was it actually top tier when it relied on having one single card turn 5-7 in set 1?

>>532716380
Next set for sure bro.

>>532716110
Forest is tier1

>>532716380
Once we get another ramp card, all of the other crafts will kneel and /svg/ will be crying about how there's no interactivity with our ramp shenanigans

>>532716537
by svg yes , by pro players no

>>532716380
Any time Dragon is good it's fuckin cancerous because ramp is inherently gay as hell

Gonna be honest bros.
This game is pretty fucking trash.

COMING THROUGH, COMING THROUGH!

>get to sapphire with meme deck
>Instantly running into overpowered swordslop where I'm just hoping they brick, because a lack of intelligence is not an issue with that deck
Take me back this shit's ass

>>532716245
It's a lot fun actually. People underestimate the fairies. You really need to mulligan for what you're facing and you really need aria ASAP because she gives your fairies storm.

>what happens if you don't draw aria

You likely just lose lmao

>>532716587
You cant be tier 1 when you auto ack to haven and abyss

Ramp dragon is literally no different from Rune.
Try to change my mind

>>532716756

Spicies not having a good day. His WR is already below 70

>>532716537
set 1 was roach at tier GOD (aka tier 0)
rune and sword at tier 1
everything else is at tier 2+ including both portal deck

Be swallo- Be swallo- Be swallowed!

>>532714963
>Change icarus effect to "Draw 1, add ,1 artifact of piece, return this card into the deck instead of sending it to grave"
>Icarus can be combined with artifact pieces to give the current rush / draw effect

Now icarus is not a brick anymore

>every puppet deck I see not only has all their puppet removal, but is running Phildau and Silvia as well
holy shit, sword's really pussy whipped them, huh...

>>532716910
I don't disagree, which is why I hate both classes. Rune has the bluenigga delusion baked in though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fxAEjqKjyI

guy is doing "5 wins in a row on all crafts or stream doesn't end" challenge

Fanfare: liquefy all of your opponent's Anne & Greas and Normans

>>532716910
ramp dragon is rune if the rune downplayers where right about the bricking part
if they highroll gg go next

>>532717321
This guy has the best shadowverse content there is
Man grinds like a motherfucker

>>532717392
He's the disguisedtoast of SV

>>532717321
He's gonna be stuck on dragon for a while

This game has too little skill.
There is literally no counterplay, its always a matter of just wiping board and nothing more, just putting the focus on the strength of a deck.
There is so little decision making involved in this game that actually enables you to effectively outplay your opponent.

They boardwipe.
You boardwipe.
They boardwipe.
Cant boardwipe?
Or did you take too long with boardwiping that you reached turn 9 and get insta killed by albert, or insta killed by CoC, or insta killed by genesis dragon?

There is just so little points in the game where you can say your strategy won you the game and instead it all relies on how strong your deck is and how much tempo it gains while you boardwipe the enemy.

>>532716223
Did control sword ever have inevitability outside of just seeking to grind things out?

I respect dragon players cause they are transparent with what they want.

Playing big guys.

You rike 2 deck meta I prepared for shadowba?

>>532716827
>You likely just lose lmao
Can't be any worse than haven and needing to draw salefa and/or wilbert

>>532717721
i wanted to play big guys
but if i dont play small fish i fucking die

>>532716694
That's cool Mao Mao, what's Jinshi up to?

>>532709991
loses too much tempo to be used

>>532717034
Is this heaven?

>>532717721
One of the reasons I liked Saha was that she let you play stuff like Zeus on turn 6

>>532717904
no thats filene from dragoncraft

>>532717838
omega 3s are important bro.
good source of protein too

>>532717880
AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE

>>532717721
I just want more fish at this point the big dudes suck

Whats wrong runeshit? didn't slot machine the answer? yeah fuck you

ABSOLUTO TOLERANCE
ABSOLUTO TOLERANCE
ABSOLUTO TOLERANCE

>>532717880
Why is this guy Japanese?

>>532717880
KIRI HIRAKOU
KIRI HIRAKOU
KIRI HIRAKOU

>>532718175
lmao the rune player coined out the satan he never had a shot at winning to begin with

Just won a game because my opponent Evo'd his Aragavy while we both had less than 3 health and apparently the Evo effect hits the Aragavy's leader before hitting the opponent.

>>532717768
Haven is my 2nd favorite craft though I've been pretty much only playing fairies. I'm all to familiar with the

"Welp T5/6 is here and I don't have X, let's see what I can do".

Then I usually just concede. I've been seeing a ton of rune and fairies just folds to sword, usually, so I may break out the storm haven again. I'm not sure. What I do know is every time I get to ruby I tilt off the face of the earth and tank myself back to emerald. I don't know what the trigger is but if I can avoid doing that I can get to sapphire either with fairies or maybe storm haven.

>>532718387
It's not that it affects the leader first, it's that the turn player can't use that shit to suicide. There are no draw games and you can't cheese people by flipping it.

>>532709714
>playing a unique deck that you’ve come up with on your own
>reducing your opponent’s life total to 0 or less before they do the same to you
I can do both
t. got featured in Shadowverse 1 for winning Grand Prix with a deck nobody else played

>>532718227
anyone got the video of that?

>>532709651
Yes let me give the tumor more time to draw his kuon/astaroth

>>532718558

Gamba Portal when
I wanna roll

>>532717321
>swordbab forgot Grimnir crest only works with sevo
>he concedes after fucking up
HOW ARE THESE RETARDS IN MASTER DIAMOND???

Should I even be playing odin/forte on lamp they feel like massive bricks in hand vs sword board vomit

>>532718447
I see, good luck and hope you can improve.
Honestly I don't know how I'm maintaining Diamond with this deck expecting to drop to Sapphire any moment.

>>532716756
>dubcuck.
Pleb.

>>532718898
It that the ward or storm? I had good luck with the deck Saki was using but I still feel like it lacks a finisher. I see some storm decks on sv wins but they seem more ward vs birds.

>>532718889
Odin is ok since he comes with single target removal. You don't really want to use your Burnite or Twilight on just 1 or 2 units.
Forte just kinda sucks since you can't do shit if there's a Ward on board.

>>532718175
>dragonnigger pretending to be fair

>>532719065
Ward with some experimental tweaks.
Not pictured 3x Jeanne.
Sarissa practically has pseudo ward early game which is nice.

>>532717721
I respect forest players cause they're transparent with what they want.
Bouncing small women.

>>532719165
That's pretty similar to the other decks I've seen. What's the wincon? Just dropping fuck huge wards and hoping they have no answer?

Bring back machina, NOW!

>When Kagemitsu enters the field, super evolve him if there is an enemy super evolved follower in play
Would he be playable? The effect is super easy to play around by just not super evolving.

>>532719091
I don't own 3rd filene 2nd hochan 2nd burnite or 3rd olivia. I didn't craft anything for this yet. I think this is what I would like to run but I'd be happy to replace those genesis with real cards next set. I can't see a situation where forte can be played

>>532719356
only El Hermano can save Portal..

>>532719263
Yeah pretty much though I have won with Odin sevo with grimnir crest swinging for tempo.
Key thing is making plays to screw up OPs gameplan since you can typically foresee what they want to do.
crumples to rune OTK but seems to be the best iteration so far against sword.

>>532718447
Haven is my second favorite as well but I play Aggro Abyss. I used to love Storm Haven but I haven't really played a ton of the class in this game because it just feels wrong.

>>532719453
Dios mio...

>>532716910
The difference is ramp is bad.

I hate playing agianst forest because they are th new rune. Literally zero interaction, just hoarding the fairies and never playing anything big.

>>532719501
Abyss just doesn't appeal to me at all. Haven clicked instantly and so did forest and I haven't been compelled to play anything else except dragon when I'm in my "fuck it if we're gonna demote we're going all the way to emerald mode" but I need to find a way to avoid that. I could have been sapphire if I didn't do that shit twice now lmao.

>>532700545
This deck is in Sapphire/Master now hmm, seems like I might be in diamond soon

>>532719797
>>532700545
deck list?

>>532719776
I favor aggressive, value-based gameplans so I always gravitated towards Shadow. I don't like the Midrange Abyss in its current state though and think that Aggro is both more fun and stronger overall.

>>532719797
>>532719871
I call it "Hybrid Memehaven", but I guess it's just "Neutral Haven" or whatever.

Portalsisters... I don't feel so good.

>>532719951
>Griffon
>Lapis

Fuck yeah. Both those cards have won me so many games.

>>532719165
I honestly don't know why I'm not beating sword consistently I thought it'd be a good deck into sword because they cant clear aether 7pp with anything in their deck but in practice it doesnt really seem to work out
I don't think there's anything else to do with the decklist it's as good as its going to be this set with the only changes being odin for adjudicator or viceversa

>>532720083
I never liked artifact, but it's the puppet-artifact hybrid that trully disgusts me. I always make sure to stomp them with my pure-puppet.

Why does every single follower in runecraft spellboosts them and also draws them a card?

>>532704085
Now this is a throwback

>>532720226
Aether sucks, and having 3x them is just dumb as you run out of cards for it to pull. If you want to cheese sword you could try ronavero cheese >>532700545
>>532719797
>>532719951

>>532720083
Just take a break and play other stuff for fun sis... I'm probably going to try out sword next so I can get it to 50 wins like dragon.

>>532719951
you think 2 darkhaven and big birds is enough to get that package going? Maybe a rodeo to pull them out when you need it

Wait the Lapis alt art purchase bonus doesn't go away until next set right? That event is just the signed card thing?

>>532720289
There is not a single follower in Runecraft that does this

>>532720430
Just Owen I believe if you evo him.

>>532720430
The penguin does both twice but he's unplayable even in a followerboost deck

>>532720413
Rodeo is already too late, plus it requires you to discard card. I don't personally like rodeo. The deck needs bit of getting used to pilot it, but it seems to work. Ronavero cheeses sword / puppet, other matches you just have to play control and grind it out. Usually it ends up with jannu buffed board, or big birb / lapis finisher.

>sagelight
>sagelight
>NORMAN
FUCK OFF

>>532703114
>only 2 fennies and 1 genesis
What are you even going for here.

>>532720535
damn I forgot about the shitfucking penguin

>brick against sword
Worst fucking feeling in this game

>>532703114
just use this

>>532720627
>>532719440
I came up with this as final plan but I dont own that many cards

>>532720771
Bricking is the second worst feeling. Not bricking and watching a rune heal 20 and then win on turn 10 while doing 0 damage to you before that is the worst feeling

>5 (FIVE) Rune in row in AA0 Topaz
FUCCCK OFFFFFF

I played Storm Haven in the first expansion and was stuck in Topaz-Ruby. For this expansion I switched to Artifact Portal and reached Diamond pretty quickly. I think there's a lot of Portal players who are downplaying because they got used to the easy wins in the first expansion and now it's a bit more balanced. But it's still a strong deck overall. And people exaggerate how much it "loses" to Sword, it's like a 4-6 matchup.

>>532720626
Those effects should cost more dirt.

>>532720808
Not sure 3rd genesis 3rd hochan are worth running I just have 2 odin in place there instead that could be them. Genesis loses to a single ward and hochan bricks when you can't play her into a board of any sort
That's a lot of heart of the cards gameplan

Why does sword have so many cards with enhance effects compared to everyone else? They've got tons of shit that is great at the low end of their curve but also pulls double duty and also is great at higher points on the curve. It really feels like everyone else is playing with preconstructed decks in comparison.

>still no collabs announced yet

KKKKKKKKKMMMMMMMMMMMRRRRRRRRRR

>>532721081
portal is good but it's kind of clunky to play and I feel like it has a semi-higher brick rate compared to the other meta decks

>>532720876
When this season started I ran a pretty similar deck to this because i also only had 3 fennies, which is to say i really recommend you dont play this until you have 3, its already fairly inconsistent with 3, 2 is suicide inducing.

>>532721274
Running 3 of them is ok because it's also including 3 Burnite. You just burn them.

>>532721310
Because other classes has their own class-specific mechanic to put on their cards, Sword doesn't so they just use Enhance

>>532721274
>That's a lot of heart of the cards gameplan
Thats literally the entire dragon gameplan right now

>>532721317
That's because most Portal player refuse to put Eudie in their deck

>>532721310
Valse's is borderline a downside right now, given how much AoE is in the meta. Albert is also a bad card to play on turn 5, like it's never on rate.
The others are good though, I won't downplay those.

>>532699882 (OP)
>play against portal
>orchis is always on 8 without fail
>decide to play portal
>always have orchis by 8 without fail
rigged game

>>532721274
>hochan bricks when you can't play her into a board of any sort
it's the opposite, Hochan does so fucking nothing that ideally you want to play her whenever nothing threatening is going on atm on the opponent board
there are games where you should ignore play her altogether and she is unironically the best Burnite ammo to discard in the entire deck

>>532721396
>sword card
>always good
>everyone else
>subpar unless you pay the tax

>Got another legendary for sword.
Alright, I'm only missing 2 of them so I'm going to pull the trigger and play sword now.

>5 runes in row into Sword
TANOSHIII
How worse it gets out of Topaz in AA?

>>532720876
>>532721326
Also this what ive been running.
Sadly fennie is too luck dependent rn its a solid mid deck.

>>532721556
Shrugs I'm not crafting for it and I'm missing 2nd 3rd burnite and 3rd olivia in the previous set so I guess it's not going to happen until next set at the very least

>>532721532
>OP at 7 health
>I have sevo and odin in hand
>mfw watching the Orchis play

>>532721556
That is so sadly true it hurts.

>>532721310
Once upon a time, Sword had Enhance synergy.
This was never expanded upon until pseudo-highlander Portal took over that concept

>opponent is down to 1 card in deck
>know he's gonna cocytus to refill
>okay so let me have a strong turn so he cant play it
>drop full board with zombie guy, clears with william
>repeat like 4 times as he clears every time with the 6 cards in his hand somehow (while also drawing 2 for 1pp)
>wins without any evos the entire time because rune cards are the most broken shit
I'm never playing any other deck than rune again. Also abyss felt horrible to play after playing a bunch of rune, the cards felt like underpowered dogshit

>>532720083
We will rise to T0 next set, trust the plan

>>532722186
Rune and sword are just grossly op.

>>532720226
You need more effective early game.
I cut down on ding dong since she doesn't trade.

>>532722186
There's a massive power gap with Rune/Sword and the rest...and then Dragon

>swordbabs

>>532722303
My issue with trading ding dong for cheretta is the deck has no card draw

>>532722465
>grimeme

>play Grimnir and Sevo in last ditch effort to live
>odin tells him to stfu and kills me

put ding dong and priestass in your dick

>>532722465
Healing? Cheating
Ward? Cheating

>>532722612
Huh, I've never felt like I was short on cards with the deck.

>>532722857
I love interactions like these it's hilarious.

>>532722465
Let me guess, he didn't pull any Gildaria?

>>532723032
He did but i just orchis'd her

>missing filene and aether
not wasting vials for that

>>532722869
Luna I am going to make you so round you won't be able to move for a week.

>>532723082
Nice

Temp Forest bros got any gameplay tips?
Want to try it out.

Yeah, I'm fucking done.
I brought this Rune player down from 20 hp to 8 twice
He literally healed 12 life each time and cleared my board each time

What the fuck man
This shit is beyond fucking infuriating.
I'm only going for chests this meta.
I'm not doing anything else until they nerf that retardation or until the next expansion comes.

If I knew how to upload the replay I would.
That was the most retarded fucking thing I've ever seen in a competitive game

>>532723456
>I'm only going for chests this meta.
>I'm not doing anything else until....
welcome to da club

>>532723456
It's just gonna get worse anon, it's the petcraft.

>7k needed to craft a sword deck
>17k to get all the missing legendaries for portal
Hmmmm... What to do...

>>532723780
abyss

>>532723780
roach only need 2-4 lego total

>>532723847
True, I could also craft all the legendaries for abyss as well. It would cost the same as making them for portal.

>>532723919
I already have a roach deck so I'm crafting stuff for fun and being able to play more decks.

>>532723456
same desu
If i queue for 10 games atleast i am extremely likely to get 6 runes 3 sword 1 abyss as Haven Dragon Forest and Portal are only played by like sub 1% playerbase now
>If I knew how to upload the replay I would.
record the replay with OBS and upload gofile or try to compress into into an audioless 4MB webm

>>532723371
>spam fairies
>go face with what ever is alive pre aria
>go face with fairies even harder
>concede against haven
>concede against sword if you don't draw glade
>concede if you didn't draw aria by t6/7

Huh roach can actually beat sword well enough

fuck i'm getting nervous now

>>532723371
If you have the option of hitting face or killing unit, 90% of the time you hit face.

>>532724578
Nice bro. I just made it back to ruby I hope to get to sapphire at some point

Man, other class are extinct. Even expanding the list to last 20 or 30 only gives me more rune sword abyss.

>>532724895
What a great meta. :)

>>532724578
someone make me lose i can't deal with this pressure

>>532724578
How is tempo? I get tired after 3 games of playing Roach, is it better in that regard?
Can you post the deck?

>>532724594
>>532724163
Thanks mates.
It's interesting to play since while aggressive it's not quite like normal aggro.
It seems the idea is go wide and pressure the opponent into being unable to keep up so that when the aoes come out its too late to recover.
Haven kind of ends you though.

>>532724895
>1 dragon
We are so back dragonbros

>>532725041
>How is tempo?
i don't think it's that good, i must've been just lucky. i lost

I am in ruby so this is not the high end of the game. It's been pretty well spread out though today, I still believe ruby is the place to be if you want to just have fun and queue with anything.

Sword: 6
Abyss: 5
Dragon: 5
Rune: 4
Haven: 4
Portal: 4
Forest: 2

>>532699882 (OP)
>Runecraft
>Runecraft
>Runecraft
>Runecraft
>Swordcraft
>Swordcraft
>Runecraft
>Swordcraft
>Swordcraft
>Runecraft
CyGames should have been named this game to Runeverse: Sword Beyond. What a dogshit meta.

>>532722292
>>532722385
Sword is not on the same power level as rune for fucks' sake it's a 6-4 MU on Rune's favor.
It's the most popular deck because it's the only deck other than Rune Mirror, Roach and Abyss Aggro that doesn't have a 10-0 MU on Rune's favor.

If Rune wasn't the top deck, other decks could adapt to grind out Sword. But we can't because we have to build for the shitty Petcraft too.

Frankly the fault lies with the leaver penalty bullshit. If we could just auto-concede to runetards and actually play the game vs everyone else the meta would be different. But if you refuse to watch the Petcraft faggots masturbate for 20 minutes you get your exp halved for multiple matches.

>>532724895
And Abyss isn't even particularly amazing or stronger from the last set even
it's just that Cerberus is really a strong bitch

>>532725518
I think Aggro is better than Midrange honestly.

>>532725573
It's better at playing more games

>>532725495
Someone else gets it
The problem this expansion is fucking Rune

Rune literally gatekeeps every grindy deck out the meta because Rune shits on grindy decks with Satan + Dclimb
The grindy decks would keep Sword in check
Ward Haven could even play the game, keeping roach decently in check

Rune being completely broken bullshit is what's ruining the game
Diamond rn is like 70% Rune, it's actually fucking ridiculous

>>532725621
No I think it's just better period. Everyone has had to adapt to accommodate for facing it which in turn favors greedier Abyss variants but aggro is still something you can't really afford to not account for. It's just strong.

>>532725708
whats the deck?

Holy brick

>>532717652
It used to have some silly wincons like Leonaidas, but I don't think it was ever much of a thing in SV1, since games pretty much never went past turn 8 in that game.

We need to standardize our slurs for each craft

>>532725749
>losing to a 9pp do nothing

>>532725732
https://shadowverse-wb.com/ja/deck/detail/?battle_format=2&user_id=129564165926&deck_id=199791

ladder grinder is using this, consistently getting 60% wr

>play storm haven
>win every match with double odin
good haven cards when

Rune ruins the game yet again

>>532725732
Aggro Abyss is pretty standardized by this point with some minor variations like Dark Side.

Why there are 2 weekend tournaments? Can we join both or we must choose 1?

>>532725451
Your list is bad. Amataz and Wildheart need to go. Bayle works really well in this deck since you go through so many fairies and he works well for cheeky storm fairy and roach combos. You can cut olivia too, if you're using her you've already lost. You need at least 2 titania since she's a huge source of fairies and they're your main damage. Ambush from above can be replaced with bug alert since you can hit face with fairy>bug alert them>hit face with same fairy assuming you have aria crest. Just copy my list, it's pulled from sv wins.

>>532717092
>can fuse icarus
this would save the card so hard
id take a 0pp discard 1 even
1pp is so fucking clunky you have to spend your alouette turns setting it up most of the time

abyss players will soon catch up on making actual midrange and start dropping some bricks for Dark Generals and Rage of Serpents

>>532725915
odin is an equal or better play than albert against a single ward with 4 or higher defense or KOS threat like jeno so that's a pretty high bar to clear

>>532726112
Zombie Soldier is dogshit and I don't see that shit sticking around for much longer.

I'm gonna fucking loose it.
Even putting 5-8 face damage up to t8 Artifacts, Haven or Sword just heal out of lethal for b2b Orchis then then I'm fully bricked unless I also have Odin in hand as no matches last long enough for Liam.
I would just run ward haven instead as I just got the Aether ticket, but I somehow didn't pull a single Wilbert, Jeanne, Grimnir or Salefa in that time, and wasted 10k earlier on forest which is even more of a brick.

What a weak craft, 42 health and still loses... We need to give rune more wards and healing
And with aggro, rune's "weakness" btw

>>532726260
>liam

Bro nobody is using liam anymore. Check shadowverse wins for the most up-to-date one. Sort by diamond so you know the deck actually fucking works and isn't some low rank jank

Is this enough for set3?

>>532726225
>Zombie Soldier is dogshit
For anyone not named Rune and Sword he is quite expensive to fully clean out and he can get dangerous as fuck if one zombie survive into a vuella combo or cerberus
The problem is Gildaria is never fucking off until rotation and sword cards are so bullshit next set the only way to take sword down is going turbo aids powercreep

>>532726260
nice highlander dick

Ronavero putting in work

>>532726260
>triple divine thunder
>vier
holy FUARK anon please
pick one
https://x.com/nase_dmp/status/1947293361314107685
https://x.com/Maki_MiyaMaki/status/1948415252808290647/photo/2

>>532726380
Set 3 will have 5 legendaries per class

>>532726437
I wish Vier is puppet version of Ronavero.

>>532726437
>play ronavero
>everyone alwasy has an answer in hand

I envy the people who's rona sticks around long enough to get juiced

how dis make u feel artifactkek

>>532726086
>pulling more than one icarus wing at the start of rouns.
Absolute brick, you have all the tools to draw cards yet they are dragging you down, schrodinger's pot of greed.

>>532726260
Is this a complete deck or a budget with the things you got? Because I don't see why you synchronous instead of another zwei or noah.

>>532726260
This is my list
Also Triple Divine Thunder is......uh, really bad haha

>>532726081
Im convinced ligma is better than odin for forest you're not beating haven anyways

>get to AA Sapphire
>rune rune rune sword rune sword sword rune sword sword
>play unranked instead
>sword sword sword sword rune sword
Kill yourselves

>>532699882 (OP)
you gotta be some form of faggot to still be playing ward haven, its fucking excrutiating, stop you fucking retards jesus

>>532726520
I only play puppet so it's 2 or 3 sets for me.

>>532726557
so fuarking pissed

>>532725495
Don't go acting like Sword is prone to being ground down when they have shit like Gildarius giving them 3 extra SEVOs, they're drawing extra gas with Amelia, and half their deck has rush. They don't even need to grind down the opponent with Yurius.

>know what the meta generally consists of
>don't play shit to counter it
>bitch about the meta

please help grug

>>532726657
Is your game ok bwo?

slapped on 6 winstreak with this
I think Dork General might go up to 2x atleast, with memorial an vuella it's t7 11 face damage and cerberus can potentially end the game next turn with just Mimi spawn

I can beat my sword deck consistently with forest but not my face abyss deck maybe it truly is a bad matchup

How do you say Titania?

>Tit-a-nia
>Ty-tan-e-ah
>Tuh-ton-e-ah

>>532726642
I WILL persevere, no matter how much i bitch and moan and get completely gaped by my opponents

>>532725881
Damn no Olivias huh? She's been great in the aggro mirror which is....very common

>>532726718
Get 3x Icarus in your deck NOW
you MUST run that
take out eudies for 2
take out a lovestruck for the other one?
>1 karula
I'm assuming thats the only one you have right?
thats fine if the case

>>532726876
tbf it was 2x olivia over apollo a few days ago

>>532726380
How are you getting this much dust?

>>532726692
What fucking counters Sword and Rune big boy?
Reminder sword can hit 80% winrate ON STREAM

>>532726692
Post a dick that consistently counters rune right now faggot

>>532726081
my list is so different because i don't have all the cards (i don't even have 3 roaches) and amataz is just for the highroll memes. bayle and bug alert kinda felt bricky without the legos so i made it more for early game domination which worked kinda ok.

>>532726881
he can just take out kitty cannoneer

>>532726959
is it 80% from a small sesh or a 12 hr marathon

>>532725653
>The grindy decks would keep Sword in check
Only if at least 2 sword cards get their rush removed, for 6 turns (9 to 15) I couldn't force my sword opponent to use their last sevo point because they never needed it clear any board, this with AF the supposed sword counter

>>532726850
Tai tay nee uh I suppose origin is english

>>532726591
lyMAGA give you extra turn while keeping your opp at 18 health max due to their end turn burn.
she is trully made forest great again.

>>532726959
>>532726996
I only play haven and forest because that's what I like. If I lose I lose, gg go next.

>>532726876
Apollo is great in the aggro mirror too plus it helps with so much sword on ladder at the moment. I can see the logic of it

>>532726692
>play shit that counters the twin T0 decks
BRB, let me go fetch my 8rack deck from the other game. My hand size is 0.

>>532727058
Doesnt work vs aura didnt help winning vs haven

Vier is really cute but I just don't understand what she is supposed to accomplish.

>>532726996
Midrange sword lmao
Sword can outvalue Rune boards and removal and they just have to chip them down to 12 HP by

>>532727053
At least a third of their deck has rush and Gildaria gives them fucking 3 extra SEVO points than other crafts.

>T0 do everything crafts
>counter

>>532727042
77% winrate over 100 games

>>532727256
Please stop saying T0

>>532726657
What the fuck

>>532727181
She's a clock that consistently inflicts face damage to players in a deck that struggles to inflict face damage. She's just WAY too slow for this powercreeped giganigga meta.

>>532727181
Evolve her then dark side for surprise 5/1 hit face
It's for when you want to win the game before turn 9.

>>532727181
Vier is the best play on turn 3 IF -

- You have a 0 cost puppet in hand generated by puppet theater/lovestruck
AND
- Your opponent does not have anything on board

THEN Vier is a good play
She can also be a good play later in the game if the same condition of no opponent board applies

Problem is, medical grade is a better play on 3 by miles when they do have a board
which is like, all the time

>>532727181
She's a cheapish bane and her doll slayer is an a sticky annoying thing that survives board wipes and can force awkward trades. also buffing it with Dark Side is funny

>>532727287
kys T0 tumor

>>532727421
"Tier 0" means that there is ONE deck. There aren't multiple top tiers in a Tier 0 meta. You play the one deck or you don't play at all.

>>532727267
Swordbabs will downplay this.

>>532727181
She will be great when puppet get doll operation or equivalent.

>>532727181
she's supposed to fuck over salefa and shit like that
but puppet didn't get any new puppet generators so she's kind of a waste of a limited resources

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fxAEjqKjyI

>he's having the hardest getting 5 win streak on sword
kek

>>532699882 (OP)
>queue dirt
>back to back ward haven
>queue puppets
>back to back sword

yeah this shit is rigged

>>532727621
we all know sword is bad

>>532727472
Rune and sword are 0.5 ATM that are forcing the other crafts into extinction. Honorable mention to aggro abyss for being a spastic fuck that brute forces the ladder via sheer quantity of matches.

Glorious nippon steel, folded over 1000 times.

>>532727685
No, this "Tier 0.5" shit is retarded. Fucking christ I hate Yu-Gi-Oh players. Clearly defined top tiers are just that. It's not much deeper than this. And no, Aggro Abyss doesn't win by sheer quantity of matches, it is straight up better than most other decks and is an easy top 3 contender.

bump Odin to 8pp so Haven doesn't get completely butt fucked

>>532727791
You and rune both need nerfs you dishonest swordbab.

Rune Sword AND Abyss are tier 0.3333

>>532726876
Stupid fucking nigger.

Aggro Abyss isn't as straight forward as I thought bros

>>532727889
Who is saying otherwise? I'm telling you that Sword, Rune, and Abyss are top 3. Tier 0 means that one of these three is the only playable option and everything else is inert.

They should have made norman fanfare eat 2 earth runes

sword is in tier 0.25
rune is in tier 0.5
abyss is in tier 0.8
portal and forest are both in tier 1.3
dragon and haven are in tier pi

>will be able to complete the deck I want by the end of the set at this pace
>by then I will need to craft 3+ more new legendaries and 6+ golds

>>532727968
Anyone that says Aggro Abyss wins through quantity of matches alone is a fucking idiot. It's one of the strongest decks right now and has warped the format a great deal. This shit is not just crossing its fingers and trying to sack people like Face Dragon, it's a legitimate aggro deck in the truest sense.

>>532725785
I see, grinding someone just doesn't feel like hard control enough for my preference.
Playing the value game feels more like midrange too me since that's already just aiming for good stuff.dek

>>532721175
>was cooking earlier
>proceed to cutting onions
>start hearing yay tanoshii in my head
A-am I losing it bros...

*concedes in your path*

>artifact vs artifact
>going 2nd opponent literally just wins because he gets to masterwork first
lol

>>532727267
whats the whole picture
imma copy this

>>532728256
in what universe does masterwork win you the game on turn 10

>Play my own deck
>Nobody is able to expect anything
>Win a lot
Netdeckers..

>>532728216
Boys...shouldn't look like girls...

>>532727968
Aggro abyss (formerly aggro blood) has never been an easy deck

>>532728256
thats not how that matchup works

Is the battle pass worth it? I'm missing like 8k vials to finish the deck I want

>>532728387
its 'worth it' compared to anything else in this game

>>532728387
If you're thinking of dropping money on the game then BP is the best choice.

>>532728387
If you spend money, its the best "bang for buck". BP leaders are occasionally good as well

runetard had lethal last turn. also this fucking nigga healed for 20 FUCKING HP.

>>532728256
>bumrush masterwork
>fuse away all your icarus artifacts
>ralmia + alpha to clear heal and draw
>you get out grinded and lose
nice gundam fuckhead

>>532728275

>>532728509
>Satan Puppets

>>532701978
this meta is dogshit so I dont even get all the chests desu

>>532728491
Zombie loli...

>>532727621
>tempo forest just raped his sword
bros is tempo forest good?

>>532728313
>>532728382
>>532728518
we were both hovering 10-13 damage trying to beta/alpha each other, and he just got to 10, super evolved and killed me.
i'll just blame the bad draws then

Would Ward Haven be good if Odin didn't exist?

>>532728935
Nyo

>>532726718
Consider removing a bullet for a silvia or two.

>>532716223
are you the fucking faggot I ran into that had a second yurius?

fuck you.

>>532701978
I play for fun and get my chests then keep going at it. The only problem is I am not sure what deck to play currently, so I'm in a rut kind of. Still debating on if I play Sword, Rune, Dragon, Abyss, or Portal now.

Shadowverse is so wack I don't even think pic related could work as a control win con.
Imagine a creature with the following.
- Deal attack damage first in clashes
- Ward
- Excess damage dealt to a follower hits the leader
- Drain
- When targeted by any spell or ability negate it unless the player pays seven life

>>532729156
Eldrazi are lame and MtG hasn't been a game worth playing in over a decade.

What's the best havencraft deck rn

>>532726642
one can always conSNEED

>>532729156
>Deal attack damage first in clashes
This doesn't matter thanks to sevo

>>532729282
ward > storm > control
but they're all shit.

>>532728769
It's ok.
About as viable as ward and ramp.

>>532729156
completely unrelated but that just reminded me of my hatred for this card

>>532728205
Now roll the onions at your cat and say
COMING THROUGH COMING THROUGH WHOOOOOOOOOAAA

I'm going to fall to Emerald with aggro abyss.

>>532729329
dagnabit I give up.
we need abyss to have a true win con and not this value game wanking where is larps as true hard control.
did it have anything like that in SV1

>>532729369
control meaning lapis?
with odin running around?

>>532729607
just hit yourself 20 times

>>532699882 (OP)
Puppet is fucking trash and you would be better off if you just throw 3 Orchis, 3 Puppeteer and 3 Sylvia in a neutrals deck.

>>532729728
AAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE

>>532727707
Is he saving sevos for SV3? Why did that shikigami not go face?

>>532727968
opposite of straight foraward is yag

>>532729728
I really hate this nigger

>>532729728
We need more cards like this again instead of "Girl but X"

2 more days until I'm 25 million rupies richer

>play around Salefa
>opponent just didn't have it
>play around Aragravy
>Opponent didn't have it
>play around A&G/Onion bitch
>opponent didn't have it
AHHHHHH

>>532729887

>3pp amulet deal 10 damage to your leader countdown: heal 20
Would abyss play this?

>>532729607
The was the spawn azazel OTK combo that you could splash into CBlood at some point.
You had to spend 8pp doing nothing to play spawn, then pass turn, then the next time your turn came around you could play azazel to OTK unless spawn was cleared (but at least he has ambush and a lot of HP, so he isn't easy to clear).

>Aggro decks are really rampant
>Got a bit tired of it and try Control Abyss and Puppet Portal
>Rune knocks to say hi

I am now definitely tired of this meta...

Fairies should be 0pp

>>532729657
control with lapis, rodeo and maybe satan. yes, it's complete shit which is why i put it last.

>>532729886
I want "girl but boy" cards

Surely they buffed the Rupies Galore chest rewards after all the complaints last time, right?

>>532729980
Nyo.
Early on you can't afford to spend 3pp doing nothing.
Later on people instantly kill you when you're at 10hp or less.
Dire bond was better than this and it quickly became unplayable back in SV1, which had less out of hand damage.

>Get to Diamond
>Play my Meme decks like Ramp and Ward Haven all day
>Still haven't been demoted, somehow even getting winstreaks

both released in sv1 academy of ages but its a too slow otk at that point

>>532730096
I like monsters. Though I'd prefer to have both Lord of the Flies and Zebet back. Zebet's voice was amazing.

>>532729970
I'll be RICH

fuck sword
and fuck portal players that swaped to sword shameless scum

>odin bounce amulet
>win

>>532730241
dis nigga tattooed his wing what a chad

>>532728814
no you just played it poorly
if youre 10-13 you make more alphas instead of beta and heal out of range
its not like he rng’d the gundam
you know its coming and how much damage it can do

Thinking about buying Luna as leader, i don't like that the default tranny leader

>>532730249
>>532729887

i just got odin from a pack
waitchads won

>too retarded and shit to survive in ruby with haven
>too retarded and shit at the game to survive in ruby with portal
I think its time to admit im too dogshit at this game and any other card game not named yugioh

Guess i'll go do the world a favor and kill myself then

>>532730104
rewards were fine though?

>>532730241
>>532730335
A reference to Kaneko's design probably

I don't play rune but this is nice

>>532730464
Standard card game design and gameplay philosophy doesn't really carry over as much to YGO ad vice versa. You can do it, it just requires a new approach. And a different deck, I'm not gonna sugarcoat it.

>>532730340
alright so i make more alphas and he drops the masterwork anyway, how does artifact out their own boss monster? only thing i cant think of is crashing my own masterwork (i wouldn't have it if i made more alphas) or orchis with bane puppets (i didnt draw her). no other follower can reach 10 even with super evo, i would have to crash multiple followers and at that point who really lost more resources in the long run?

>>532727621
he finally finished sword, abyss is next

>>532730464
just play aggro abyss and wait until the game gets easier

>>532730364
You missed out on the girl (male)

Stop hating on runes

>>532730905
never
total rune death

>>532726517
>half the deck is neutral
that's how you know your archetype is dogshit

>>532730724
karula sevo clears solo
ralmia gamma striker clears
2 striker clears
fusing away your 5 costs is horrible since it kills half your deck and you have to start from square 1
if you clear their gundam and keep mats for your own the game just ends

>>532730905
Shion is sex but that doesn't excuse rune's crimes

I hate Gildaria so fucking much. That insane card is so fucking broken. The game would be much better if they just straight up deleted her or nerfed her into the ground so hard she's less playable than Rodeo.

>>532730937
Reconsider

>>532730905
No.

20 packs vs Luna hmmm i wonder what to pick...

ruby master has got to be the worst cesspool of shit in the entire game I swear to god
99% of decks are aggro it's fucking hell

>>532730724
>>532731017
and by make alphas i mean spawn them
if you spawned betas at any point while hes the aggressor then you fucked up

>>532731054
Midrangekek...

HYBRID RUNE IS CHEATING

IT NEEDS A BAD MATCH UP

ITS ALL OVER RANKED

>playing abyss
>vs ramp dragon
>i am at 5 HP
>well shit if i heal with Brickestu i am still in lethal anyways, lets set the fox wall and with some luck i can lethal him next turn
AND HE FUCKING PLAYED SHARK
LMAO
I CAN'T EVEN BE MAD LIKE LMAO FUCKING SHARK IN FENNIE RAMP DECK OUT OF NOWHERE FUCKING LOL
IF I FUCKING HEALED THAT 4 HP I WOULD HAVE LETHALED HIM BECAUSE HE FUCKING PLAYED FULL COST SHARK LMAO
A FUCKING FISH

>>532731125
youll get jack squat out of 20 packs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXMzF6QVV6c

>>532731134
guilty, sorry

>>532731164
KYS swordnigger

When can I start playing my SVO matches?

>>532699882 (OP)
>Pic
Me when I think about Urias

>>532731065
who was this cartoon made for

>>532731371
Look at the schedule, retard

>>532731420
me.

>>532699882 (OP)
How will KMR ruin Lishenna, Octrice, Galmieux, Valnareik, Marwynn and Mjasdajshdahjsdhksad in order to make sure Rune stays unbeatable?

>>532731316
you might be right... sooner or later i'm gonna reach the pity chest anyway but looks like abyss is bombing again thanks to rune and sword so i have to think about it...

>>532731420
Heterosexual adult men and pubescent boys

>>532731461
So is it just queue up and play? Blitz it?

>>532731484
uoh…

>>532730724
>karula
yeah youre right i forgot that he can double attack the same unit, never really came up before hand now that i think about it. unfortunately i only have 1 copy of him
>ralmia gamma striker
>2 striker
it's kinda hard to keep 2 strikers at hand when i should be making alphas to stay out of lethal, feels like i never have the right amount of artifacts/cloners because this deck is too fucking reliant on drawing perfect hands for the right situation.
>fusing away your 5 costs
yes i know masterwork is all in, i almost never make him unless im sure he literally wins the turn hes summoned
>>532731157
yes spawn alphas but on another note it really feels like when i'm forced to make them en masse i'm already playing from behind and not really advancing my game state and i just lose the long game anyway

>>532731484
>>532731065
Isn't it interesting that she's 13 years old?

>>532726260
>2x puppet lancer
>2x puppet theatre
>2x noah
bro you're playing puppet you need your puppet generators, especially if you're going to run vier who eats a puppet
and yes, people heal. you need noah to buff puppets to increase your orchis damage, you can't just mindlessly 2x orchis for 16 damage and expect to win
also please run phildau instead of divine thunder

I thought spellboost only works on hand so why does william always hit for double digits?

>>532731601
you arent supposed to rush in control mirrors
set up icarus and conserve your resources
it would help if you sent the replay

What was the GM grind like in SV1? I'm gonna hit Master for sure in Set 2 so I'll be set up for the grind in Set 3

Is it like grinding from Beginner 0 to Master again?

GRIM

>>532731786
no
GM was only 10k master points
and winstreak bonuses stopped at 5k mp

>>532731650
Noah is a brick now, you waste turn 6 on him and what does the opponent do? Norman, Anne & Grea, Gildaria, Feenie, Neptune, Odin.

99% of the time you gotta drop Sylvia or your own Odin/Olivia just to survive that turn. There's never a comfortable time to play Noah anymore.

I can't stop winning sisters

>>532731363
Post your deck brother

>>532731738
Lesbians give 3, Kuon gives 5.

>>532731738
>lust provoking image
>irrelevant time wasting question
/svg/...

Holy shit free 10 roll

>>532731738
Stop discriminating the chosen craft.

>>532731843
Do you lose points in Master rank on losses? Point gain about the same as you get in AA rank?

>>532731917
Where? How?

>>532731786
>What was the GM grind like in SV1?
10k point grind
+100 if you win
-100 if you lose
+30 win streak bonus if under 5k
The point loss was reduced and point gain increased by 30% when facing someone with a lot more points than you

wanna bet the winner of this SVO is a sword player?

>>532732004
Oh god getting GM will be a fucking long ass grind

anyone want to be friends and play a game that isnt shadowverse cause this rune/sword/abyss meta is fucking boring.

>>532732074
sure shisaafriend what do you play

>>532732074
if your complaint is the meta why not just play off-meta with said friend

>>532732074
I can play fightan with you

>Play a Twilight Dragon to clear the FAT enemy board
>It was actually a Genesis Dragon
Oops

>>532731607
out of 10

>>532731960
oh ye i forgot, you do lose points in master rank
you can get 100-130 from a win and lose 70-100 from a loss depending on the opponents mp
and there were no group multipliers, just winstreak bonuses

Man these puzzles were super easy wtf I was expecting more

>>532731782
no its fine i know i made a lot of mistakes that game, appreciate the tips anyways. artifact is just kind of frustrating to play between the hand limit size, clunky hands, and the current meta right now

>>532732074
wanna play mahjong which we never got?

[Interesting news]
Feetlene and Aggro Abyss has rocketed Dragon and Abyss from the bottom of the charts.

Forest is confirmed (as expected) to be the least popular craft in Shadowverse again

>>532732232
Forest will always be the least played craft, no matter what.

>>532731857
post dick NOW

>>532732168
Just play the second in your hand
You did play Fennie right?

>>532732195
>>532732004
Okay I'm not sure if I can get the GM sleeves...

>>532731887
just the aggro apollo deck people run. I feel like there's not that much variation to this deck, 38 core cards then you decide on DAO or apollo. apollo has been decent for me in non-sword/abyss/forest matchups

>>532732232
How do we make Forest popular?

It's up!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXMzF6QVV6c

>>532732323

>>532732354
Get good at the best set 3 aggro deck and you'll be fine