The Wheel has turned once again

Everybody Storming Edition

Dominions is a fantasy turn-based war game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.
The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 3400 units, 1100 spells and 400 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them. It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.
Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a war game.

>Our pastebin (extremely outdated)
https://pastebin.com/wjbSA98Y

>Steamgroup
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya

>Multiplayer guide
>Blitzserver (game hosting service)
https://blitzserver.net
(Dom 6)
https://beta.blitzserver.net/games
>Llamaserver:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1212948582

>Documentation
https://illwinter.com/dom6/docs.html

>Tools
>Mod inspector
https://larzm42.github.io/dom6inspector/
>Wiki
https://illwiki.com/
>Pretender calculator
https://zollqir.github.io/pretenders-dom6/
https://caleb-distributive.github.io/pretenders-dom6/ (website down?)
>Debug mod
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3083231618
>Communion fatigue calculator (still dom5)
https://instacalc.com/53495
>Automatically prevent starts in all provinces with less than X connections (still dom5)
https://nixx.is-fantabulo.us/dom5ranmapnos/

>How do I change the fonts?
Replace guifont.ttf, guifont_fancy.ttf and guifont_texty.ttf in the game's 'data' folder (C:\Steam\steamapps\common\Dominions6\data)

>Fan art
https://thronebooru.booru.org

>Sloop’s Comfy Balance Mod
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zeDyK8Zb_p4lIJ0yp3a3ikMprRkmBCWvy31_4jBen3Q/edit?usp=sharing

Previous Turn of the Wheel
>>531817381

>>533144863 (OP)
oh just fuck off mate

>>533144863 (OP)
Only crime here is luck 1

>>533144863 (OP)
Can someone explain this

>>533146010
meme

Fish Mitre real

I know movespeed doesn't correlate 1:1 with the grid, but does precision?
ie; an enemy 15 tiles away from a mage that casts a spell with 15 prec total will 100% hit?

>https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/656#status
Forgot I hadn't joined yet

We are getting close
Just a few more for the most FENTFUL SUMMER OF LOVE

>>533149403
precision is doubled over 10
so 15 precision is actually 20
distances under your precision are hit with 100% accuracy (IIRC)
more than that and you start to have deviation

the shot leading sucks in dom5 and dom6 so in most cases even perfect precision isn't great (assuming there is a projectile)

Does Dominions 4 have the exact same soundtrack as Dominions 3 or was something deleted?

>>533151131
oh damn forgot about it being worth double over 10. So if a mage manages to have 18 prec (wind guide + eagle + 2xp), a pillar of fire theoretically has perfect accuracy at 25 range, and even at 50 should only deviate by ~1 tile?

Gas station started if any of you wandered into that game.

Diarrhea has spread among the militia.

>>533149403
>>533151131
>>533154582
Precision is not that good. Precision 15 (20 in calculations) would only be accurate out to 8 squares. Precision 18 (really 26) would be accurate out to 11.

>>533155493
>the militia has spread among the diarrhea

>>533157631
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vdd4rBlsj2o

>>533156850
man fuck using anything that isn't 100 prec then
was excited to bust out pillars of fire, but instead I think I'll still keep my f3+ guys just casting incinerate.

>>533149828
Bump, join up friendos.

Nactions for this feel?

>>533162986
ma ermor because i wish you were dead

>>533157631
kek

>>533154582
does it have the inaccurate tag?

>>533156850
>the amount of deviation is equal to range * 1.25 / precision
you understand that in quite a few cases this will round down to 0 right?

bro is out here posting the manual with the formulas and then screwing it up LMAO

>>533156850
weird, manual has a different formula than the wiki, which one is right?
Because just (Distance*1.25)/prec is way better than irandom_range(0,prec-1)+(Distance*1.25)/prec

Would the game be significantly different if everything involving precision was just perfectly accurate instead?

>>533175582
Yes, archers would be totally busted like in COE

looks like the trooncord dominions players make up for 99% of the dominions community

>>533177483
yeah.
sell your link for xrp bro

>>533177652
sorry but i am determined

>>533173578
That formula is Loggy verified. The manual is wrong/out of date.

>>533177483
still hodling

Why does it matter when archers can't lead for shit

Archers are neat but they rape my frontline half the time

>>533183998
How? Unless you're playing shit like frogs or monkeys

>>533184389
Idk longbowmen tend to deviate their shots and pen into my dudes giving them afflictions n shit. Though I like to do fire closest so maybe that's my faully

Is there a spell that fucks up horses that cavalry ride?

>>533188317
Anything thats large AOE and magic resist negates. Horses have shit magic resist.

>>533188317
there are anti-animu spells, most of them work because most animus have abysmal MR

>enemy suddenly shows up with auxillary army on my borders, bigger than even their main one
>"Oh fuck I might actually be dead"
>they move it onto my sieged fort I'm actively scrying for accurate numbers expecting its walls to get blown the fuck out instantly
>it's a tiny shitbaby army of just a few good units with multiple effigies of war

that son of a bitch got me good
he'll pay for this trickery

>>533188317
Charm animal

>>533202665
>dies to one arrow

>>533202769
That's why she stays underwater :)

>>533204718
>that's why she stays underw-ACK

>>533205557
Are these actually good?

>>533211053
No but they're cheap and can potentially fuck up some high armor units if they're massed

What do you do in this situation if you're the guy on the right?

https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/657#status
BLIIIIIITZ

>https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/657#status
one more for a blitz to launch

JOIN JOIN JOIN

Rus if you're in gasstation do your damn turn.

>>533212730
Stab them in the leg

Can someone redpill me on this weird ass map

>>533216774
balanced but kinda ugly, check out bankuo or nipponla, or the floating islands.need more comfy hand drawn maps like that. lucid's atlas kinda cool too.

>>533216774
KYS
how dare you question the generosity of mapfag?

>https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/656#status
geroge floyd fent game
still recruiting

one more min

>>533217706
that looks kind of good, you are gay

Dividing the game stages by turns.
Expansion phase:1-15
Early game: 15-30
Mid game: 30-60
Late game: 60-90
Please end the game: 90+
What do you think domgee

Rain of Jaguars

Ghosts do your fucking turn

>>533236421
wip

>>533248174
GATO SEXOOOOO

FENTMIN YOU GOT YOUR PLAYERS, NOW START GAME!!!!

>>533188317
solar brilliance
kills skellies and turns the horses blind!

Oh fuck can the fent game be restarted? I submitted the wrong tendie

>>533252464
started game BTW

>>533258275
post the one you submitted

>>533261425
It's the olm for agartha i fucked up and used the old one with wrong path and bless

>>533261425
It's fine if we don't redo it though it's just marginally harder for me mid to late

>>533262974
>>533263318
you have 30 minutes

I really want to kill myself now, fucking keep fucking dying in la expansion due to squads going around my blob of dudes and killing my commander

>>533273623
A skill issue I can identify with

>>533271167
k it's done

>>533275921
the map had to be regenned you fuckwad
I hope your start is much, much worse

>>533275921
Based

>>533273623
>larger blocks
>line formation
>use some chaff to protect the flanks

blitzmin I dont want to lose my turn to your shoddy servers ;_;

>do turn with 5 minutes left
>server instantly goes down
I sure hope it actually went through.

>>533283185
>just have more units bro

>>533287491
>he can't afford a handful of militia

I hate playing death scales because I always feel like I'm going to poorer the next turn.

>>533288397
I always pick growth 2 or 3 if able.

>>533273623
spit your dudes in two or three blocks and put them on the left edge on hold and attack with your Commander between them in 3x hold stay behind troops.
pd does not attack rear, they move to attack "something". if your army is in one block then they will only have two working targets to choose from your army and your Commander. if the pd has multiple blocks one is bound to roll your Commander as a their target and wrap around your line to hit him.
the further back your army is the more spaced out the pd is going to be then they hit your line allowing you to have local numerical superiority, this only works if your dudes have ~the same movement speed. but this also stops the 100+ pd armys from wraping around

>>533273623
hello anon, never krill yourselvf, think of all the bats and froggs youll sadden

>>533286976
Please roll back MAde_in_sweden, I cannot do my turn because server is down and I am amidst two wars.

>>533294647
will do when blitzserver is back

>>533294867
Thank you kind admin

>>533295171
>>533294867
>>533294647
no need to roll back, the server came back at the last second

>>533300556
Thank you

Summon Cock

Dust to dust

I did my crack turn and double turn, don't worry!

Will an intelligent unit trample his own units when attacking?

>>533331768
Yeah

Summon Ker

blitz?

>https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/658#status

Summon Bishop Fish

Here's the Nidbathed-chan!

>>533359168
Lewd

>>533359168
scars should be black, 0/10 jk she cute

>>533360023
She's bad at fighting :(

Gnight domg

>>533359168
>Bathed in the lifeblood of at least 7 of her closest friends

Jag dumpy

>>533355402
I think it could use some more undead.

I have been thinking about what I will give this guy once I make him a commander via Divine Name..Pretty sure I can give him Siege Golem bodyguards, and I want Mistform, Luck and Mossbody on him from other spellcasters, but his equipment leaves a lot of options open

>>533367189
Why him, do you have a plan?

>>533359168
I love this artist

>>533359168
Thank you anon!!!

>>533367189
Gate cleaver and extra arms for a second gate cleaver.

>>533367189
Just be like me and get lucky enough to have your normal Golems get extreme obesity

>>533372773
(Okay technically it was Heroic Toughness, not sure if that's better or worse for a Rock)

>expand very well
>decent scales
>income of ~4k
>6 lv2 forts and a few more on the way (cap not included)
What now? Talk to each neighbour and smash into the one not giving you face? Or just sit still research and do nothing?

>>533379651
mmm i dont know maybe take thrones and win the game?

>>533379651
Find thrones to snipe

>>533162986
LA Ulm

>>533366448
Would certainly dump into

>>533366448
how much PD to dump to defend against jag rush?

Reminder that binding diplo is for discordtrannies

>>533389043
Fax my brother, speak your shit!

Fuck you Man!

>>533367189
>item slots [slots]: head(crown only), 2 misc
you forgot to click the "advanced" button

>>533394618
>Knight of Avalon's on you
Nothing personnel, kid

What are the worthwhile national summons for MA Shinuyama? There's so many that I don't know what to try, and my gobbos are starting to get their asses kicked a little too often for my liking.

>>533404140
dai tengu for sure, breaks you into better air and gives access to flying troops
buffalos can be good for early tramplers

>>533248174
>>533366448

>>533404140
None of them are bad.

>>533404140
Mujina and kitsune break you into glamour.
Omukade may be less impressive in practice than on paper. Their 20 protection is good, but might not be good enough for a size 7, 13 MR unit with 9 defense and 16 combat speed causing them to zoom ahead alone, and their summoning-turn efficiency is poor.
Do Jorogumo have assassination or seduction skill in any of its forms? If not, it might be buggy, maybe ask Illwinter.
Okami look cool, not powerful, but you get many of them, and they have magic weapon bites.
Dai Oni may be a fun summon late, but wraith lords are good as well.

In a fight between Asphodel and Ermor who wins?

>>533418221
Jorogumo are seducers

>>533418237
Everyone else

>>533418221
>Omukade may be less impressive in practice than on paper. Their 20 protection is good, but might not be good enough for a size 7, 13 MR unit with 9 defense and 16 combat speed causing them to zoom ahead alone, and their summoning-turn efficiency is poor.
They are paying for the fear effect, which Illwinter puts a premium on.

>>533422830
Demon Knights are still GOAT

>>533418237
Asphodel easily

>>533433868
Why?

>>533436271
Asphodel can regen entire armies of vine people with a 4 priest

>>533437095
Holy shit!

>>533436271
Asphodel can hire mages so they can have a lot more then Ermor.

>>533421675
jorogumo are not seducers

Singleplayer shitter here, why does MA Pyrene feel so bad to play? Is it just that everything they have is a bit overpriced? Is it blood magic being not as strong as it used to? Is it just a skill issue?

>>533443713
They can fucking spawn mages with gems

>>533447737
Gems are harder to come by then gold. Ermor's weakness is that you depend on RNG for your sites to get the gems you need and even then that's a mage turn spent on summoning more mages. Being able to buy some mages early on to research and site search is a big advantage.

>>533446683
They have strong sacred cav, good nonsacred troops, rec anywhere flying A2's and they can recruit their best mage in any forest. Maybe it's not Pyrene that feels bad, but blood magic, which can't do anything useful or fun until level 6 or 7.

>>533449132
No I meant Asphodel can spawn mages with gems and they get more with each temple

Congrats to Muspel for winning the game. Fuck you Blitzmin and thank you for the funny death war.

>>533453875
Oh shit oh fuck I was wondering why this turn was taking a while. I didn't even notice.
I should have taken the vampire lords more seriously in hindsight. I sort of just ignored then and mopped up behind them with sauros every now and then, which was fine, until you (I presume you're sauro) stole my well of misery then I went balls deep trying to get it back and had that really stupid fumble where I lost all my wights.

I enjoyed the constant manifestation + ghost riders spam.

>>533457069
You can't keep the well anyways. I have Thaum9 and an S mage that can cast analysis for the exact amount of gems needed to steal the well back, and i have 400D gems stocked up and waiting.

>>533458339
>and i have 400D gems stocked up and waiting
I figured you were stockpiling with how few ghost riders and manifestations you were actually sending.
Did you actually get a chance to see how big the overcast was?

>>533458562
Not yet, was about to cast analysis this turn when i realized game is over

>>533458730
Oh, how many vampire lords did you have by the end there?
Was getting my third mind hunter online. Was hoping that'd take some of the pressure off but I imagine you would have just started kitting them with MR gear soon if you hadn't already.

>https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/659#status

late night blitz once more

>>533459616
I pump out 2 vamp lord each turn ever since the blood vortex. In total maybe 25-30, but half doesn't have gear, and i can afford to forge items for 2 a turn. And yep the moment you start the mind hunt i was forging pendant en masse. They already have 17 mr so i wasn't that worried, but 21 mr would be near impossible to kill without pen gear

>>533449618
That too.

Are the generic vampire units summons any good?

>>533460235
Yeah I already had them kitted with mr pen gear so I probably couldn't squeeze out much more.
Oh well. I was spamming dust warriors at that point, which I wish I'd done earlier. I waited 5 turns for a tart with FD before realising the monstrum I had sitting around already had FD. Those things have an absolutely insane stat block in my dominion when I take heat since its like heat 2 native so they end up with a 19att/20def stat block without buffs since my dominion ended up heat 4 a good portion of the year. Its insane.

>>533461242
I was going to play dust warrior too, that's why i had a deep well up for the E income. I also had a tart with the necessary path.

>>533461926
SCBM changes dust warriors to fire.

>>533461241
They fly and they're immortal but by the time you get them, meh. Before thrones existed (so that games went forever) it was a strat to summon hundreds of them.

>>533453875
thanks i write a aar tomorrow (today its 3am)
i wish i would have gotten involved in your deathwar, instead i had to deal with a new random player and ai armys every other turn
>>533461242
everything with with firepower becomes great once Eternal Pyre gets online, but dust walkers are really something special. at the end my army became 50/50 muspel Giants and dust walkers

Is the "v play domingos" game free to join?

>>533449420
Their strong sacred cav is nice, but have anyone tried to use the storm demon strat with MA Pyrene to its fullest? Spam storm demons, give the national item to their best mage, and have flying armies where their mages buff the storm demons with enlargement, strength and storm (storm power) for increased ranged lightning damage? That must be what Illwinter envisioned.

>>533446683
>Is it just a skill issue?
it's this, but you already said as much with your first two words
akerbeltz dodge the main blood nerf (to minimum blood level for full hunting efficiency) and you have the easiest storm demon summoner recruitment in the game, and to cover your blood eco development you have powerful sacred cav
it's top tier

>>533464952
Thanks anon!

>>533459806
When will this start?

Man can you fuck off

>>533366448
I'm curious, how much have you spent on domingos art over the years?

>>533492816
About 10 grand iirc, but I have a lot of passive income and already own property so it doesn't really bother me

>>533493072
Honestly not that much considering it's been nearly a decade.

>>533493072
Thank you for your service

Crannog Ys Underwater Blood Nation in the LA when…

>>533453875
>>533457069
i had a bog standard Fortitude, regen and schock resistance on a Monolith bless. i just added low light vision because i planned at the start to go for caves and then summon the four dwarves in the midgame with the possibility of adding the galegate in the lategame. i suffered the experience of that combo in the sparks disciples game and wanted to share that misery with some other players.
Sadly I had no caves close to me and i fucked um my pretender paths, while going from drain 2 to drain 1 i moved air from 4 to 2 denying me the dwarves until i empowered my pretender, but air gems there to important for such investments until lategame there the dwarves would hurt me more than the other players, while also making me the target of all the players.

>>533506835
Expansion as a giant nation is not all that hard, you recruit as many giants as you can and recruit a priest commander to lead them every other turn.
Sadly my expansion was rather slow because i had a coastal cap and from my four land provinces one had barbs, one lizards and one had something like 3 bloodhenge druids forcing me to leave my capring until i had a good number of giants.
After expansion was done and i had a good number of indi scouts ging i had a rather good idea of that was going on in my surroundings.
R´ley was fighting atlantis and was not interested in annoying me.
Ctis in my south west had heat 2 and would have been a great early war target but we had a realy awkward border that i did not want to fight trough, in addition ctis and hinnom there already fighting and i would rather fight ctis later than help hinnom win that war and then have to deal with him myself.
In my north was Tir na n´Og and my border with him was worse that my border with Ctis, i got a quick nap with him because i did not want to get elfed and then ignored him.
This only left my with lanks as my early war. He has had the best expansion and was already building multiple forts, but while he was investing his gold in in infrastructure and mages i did not even recruit mages in my cap all my gold was going into more giants. I simply rolled over him and got my first palisades by conquering his right after he build them. He went ai after i caped his cap, but that just moved the war into an annoying direction as the ai immediately bought all mercs it could buy and started raiding.
With Lanka dead i got some more neighbours, but while i would have wanted to also kill Kailasa and Mictlan because they had at that point in the game no answer to firegiant stepping on their cap i instead started to invest into my Research, to get to my answers to the Ubar i now bordered.
Ubar was grabbing all the provinces he could and was at that point by far the biggest on the map.

>>533506835
>Sadly I had no caves close to me
I wanted to get the hidden in caves skeletons but the only cave entrance on the map was on the other side of the planet from me in agartha's territory. Good morning I hate randommap.

>>533509585
I allied with T´ien Ch`i to force Ubar to fight on two fronts and hopefully split his raiding forces. T´ien Ch`i also recruited Oceania into the war and claimed to get Tir na n´Og and Marverni ropped in, but they never showed up. I also tried to get some more allies but i think fucked up and send my larpy messages to people that did not border Ubar confusing them instead of getting allies.
The war against ubar was not that exiting, i finally started recruiting muspel Jarls and kitting them. Spirit Masks are a cheap way to get Spirit Sight and some mr, frost brands i brought from T´ien Ch`i as i had no water mages but wgems and Weighless Tower Schilds and Boots of the messenger are always useful and i made tons of them.
btw: enchanted Salt is a scam i used all my egems to give all my muspel Jarls one and it did nothing, anything else in the misc slot would have been more useful. If somebody knows how to make them work please tell me because i have no clue.
In the war against Ubar i simply but my main stack onto his cap while raiding and counterraiding with my jarls. then i had to wait till i researched Ench 6 for Fay-eyed Warriors to storm his cap, because i feared he get all his raiding jins to kill my giants on his cap
But while i waited on ubars Cap T´ien Ch`i managed to get his armys blown up by said Jins because he send them simply in with just some random mages and no plan.
Meanwhile Oceania got ubars southern lands and gave reports on there Ubars pretender was.
In the end i got ubars cap and its surroundings, Oceania the south and T´ien Ch`i got ubars throne and 3 forts.
While this was going on sauromatia and Ctis stated their deathwar while killing Vanheim and caelum seemingly incidentally. Funnily Caelum ai survived between them because its two forts there sieged by eventindies. And the Throne of Bureaucracy and the Throne of the Sun also never got touched. I think both of them would have wanted these 5 fgems to spam more dust walkers.

>>533486026
it got canceled

>>533509585
>>533509585
well played. From what it reads, sounds like good strategy, diplomacy and execution. Early scouting sounds like it must have helped a lot in rather crucial decision making

what bless did lanka have?

>>533512796
yea all the caveentrances there oddly clustered, only my scouts got to enter some of them
>>533513423
the Hellheim, Maverni and Tir na n´Og trieangle never much of anything, Maverni did not even get the thrones that there in his territory and he had the Thrones of creation and abundance. Hellheim woke up once Oceania gone ai and starded slowly taking his land provinces. And Maverni conquered Tir na n´Og after he went ai, but he let me vulture like half of Tir na n´Og.
Oceania killed Yomi and Therados and then ether fell asleep or lost the will play. He went ai in a still decent position.
Meanwhile Rley killed atlantis and started skirmishing with Agatha, but as a whole he sat in his pond and did nothing.

I planed to join all the people doing nothing and started searching my land and slam Dreamstones, Owlquils and Skullmentors to get up to lightless lanterns as fast as possible to catch up in Research and get Eternal Pyre up. But while i was doing what Tir na n´Og, Mictlan and Kailasa gone ai and i vultured that i could from them. I even got Mictlans cap accelerating my blood eco i was trying to set up at the same time.
my Plan was to blitz Ctis once Eternal Pyre got heat up to atleast 4 and my candles with gift of healt there on one or two of his forts.
But everything changed then T´ien Ch`i brocke his nap with me.

So outside unholy weapons and soul slay communions, how are you supposed to kill fort regen giants in 6 anyway? False damage is trash.

>>533515452
i had two indi scout provinces and i recruited out of both continuously, if i had to rely on my national scouts i would have suffered.
No scout in the cap and a basic 40 stealth scout for 60 gold in non cap forts, what a joke

>>533515452
Giantbait
Shock and fire resistance Incarnate
and Regen Incarnate

>>533516323
warrior illusion spam

>>533516323
Doesn't false damage ignore regeneration and a bunch of other stuff? It just adds to a counter and when it reaches the max HP value you just die

>>533517453
The problem is it checks MR, as almost everything that regenerates or has blood vengeance has good MR.

How does raiding/pillaging works? I have a stealth army (Jotunheim wolf riders) inside an enemy province and my only options are 'Move', 'Attack Current Province' and 'Hide and Wait'. Pillage is only an option within my own lands.

>>533515961
why T´ien Ch`i decided to fight my i still dont quite get but i dont think he quite through of the consequences of attacking me, because after the nap ended e stardet raiding me but never send a serious siege army out.
this allowed me to gather my spread out vulturing giants and simply go from fort to fort slowly cracking them, he was a real fort spammer. At some point he realised he had lost and gone ai.
In addition to him oceania had gone ai and his ai attacked me, but just like T´ien Ch`i it just tried to raid me for a bit. But with this war i finally got a water province allowing me to summon a queen of water. This surprised me because i assumed with all the water nations someone should have picked up his water harem, instead i got it.
At this point i entered a clown dimension because Rus also attacked me pulled then back, but said to me that he indeed wants to fight me. just to then stall 6 times and then go also ai.
And while i was dealing with what i got a message from pyrene that he is bored, this was his reasoning to put a 1000 cavecows on one of my forts. he got that fort but i killed that "army" with good old living fire spam. Sadly i did not have the time to post that battle in thread. after i wiped out this he also gone ai.
At that point my turns had clown music playing because while my scouts watched a fun deathwar i had to deal with 4 ais screaming "random bulshit go" while cracking one or two forts a turn.
i also got like 150 gems and spend most of them on forging and rituals. I have 30+ amulets of antimagic and resilience and messager boots as a standart kit floating around on mages and jarls

>>533516323
that depents a lot, as some nations you are kinda screwd unless you pick a counter bless and other have guys with 2handers that simply kill them then they show up
unholy weapons is a great counterpick, but ctis killed hinnoms giants that had better attack density witch Serpent dancers and weights.
because of attack density you can also chop them up with with a sufficed amount of barbarians, cav or lizard slaves because every Muspel giant costs 140 gold and kills at best an unit a turn
skellespam or evos like frozenhart also work somewhat. and in the mid/lategame you can put +strength and ap weapons on your troops with 2hand weapons to just kill them
cursing them is also great because that an 5% chance to get a affliction on every damage
>>533519334
you can only pillage provinces that you own, for the raid command you have to be in your province and border a province of an other player, you then atack the other province and pillage it if you win, afterwards the troops return to you province.
consult illwiki and the Manual to read how it properly works

Anyone have advice for fighting Uruk as Phlegra? They've got 300-400 sized stacks of mostly heavy inf that overwhelm my helotes very quickly and then surround my giants. Would spamming the stone hurler cyclops work to thin out their numbers? Or do I just need to achieve a critical mass of gigantes?

>>533520417
once I have started conquering rus and tock the waterThrone in my cap with my water harem. I realised i only needed one more throne to win and theat rus had 2 right in front of me, i started summoning Bishop fish and forging flying Carpets.
afterwards i waited until all the fish there in position to claim the 6 thones in one turn and finishing the game.
I think no one quite realised how big i got just from fighting my 2,5 front war.

>>533516465
yeah that is definitely giant bait. Regeneration on palankashas doesn't help much if the muspel giant has a chance of killing a palankasha in one blow

>>533516323
depends on what you have in your bless and what kind of giant it is. If you're lanka, one option involves overcoming their regeneration. But that is easier said than done

if you have the bless in >>533516465, and you're up against muspel giants of >>533506835, then:
>storm demons are not amazing due to shock res and regeneration, unless you somehow mass enough of the storm demons and buff them
>imps are not amazing due to regeneration and fortitude, but not bad either
>demons die in melee, muspel giants have high health and protection and helmets and fire power and heat aura

could do blood sabbath stuff if you have the research for it, skelespam, battlefield enchantments, etc., and regeneration means probably not dying of sabbath fatigue. But you probably won't have the research if being rushed

could try diplomacy and scouting and do diplomancy if you start next to muspel

at the end of the day, regen + fire and shock resistance is as Muspel said giantbait, at least in the early game. Might be the case that you will have to accept that you either: run the risk of straight up losing if you start next to muspelheim; or plan and pick a different bless. Regeneration is great on lanka if lanka gets research due to blood sabbaths, but if you get rushed by muspelheim before then, it doesn't matter. It's fair to run such a risk, just be aware of it. Try to identify the biggest threats to your bless, and plan accordingly, or just accept them as risks

you mention other blesses, namely unholy weapons. Quickness is great for overcoming regeneration. Fear and dread could be used as asymmetrical counter, muspel giants have relatively low morale, but that requires your demons to survive long enough

very well played to Muspel, honestly, Muspel correctly identified the bless as giantbait, and skipped recruiting mages and went all in

.

>>533516773
if they're muspel giants, that probably won't work. Muspel giants have magic weapons and heat auras

>>533521389
some things i lernend in this round:
lore of legends exists i wasted quite a number of gems and blood slaves empowering that i did not need to waste
Vengful Water: is shit in 6 compared to 5, size 3 water eles cant even reliable kill scouts even with the hp boost from gift of heath and water aces does not even guaranty the size 7 eles. While a nerf was necessary this one moved Vengful Water from always cast to never cast
Eternal Pyre: on the other hand is now retarded, scales going up to 5 makes everything with firepower great, but you also get one or thwo mages a turn and they dont come naked but instread come with five or six fgems if its a 3f mage or with at lest wit 2 fgems 2egems and 2perls if its the 2f1e2s mage.
in the time i had it up i got 23 3f and 8 2f1e2s mage that are at lest 131 fgems nearly the amount of gems i put into it, while also giving me the earth astral crosspath that until then i only had on my pretender.
faery queen: them not being a3n3 anymore is annoying but instead you now get the earth nature crosspath giving them streng of gaia making them an even better N caster, while the Air Glamor can still cast wailing winds and some of the higher G spells making it more of a Siedegrade. You just have to watch their morale its still shit.
Blitzmin already said it but if you can cast the hidden in spells if you have the temp scales they are ridiculous.

>>533523624
i dont think i have all that much to say anymore.
Muspelheim is, i think, the definition of a getting a ball rolling nation.
you have to sacrifice everything you can, but as long as you can win you first war and secure your mid game you have a clear road to Victory.
your mages are expensive but have good paths and can forge reseachboosters in Air, Glamour and Death allowing you to force con 7 for flightless lanterns on the back of your giants fighting without magesupport.
And once you have them you can catch up on Research and start properly buffing your giants, shutting down many counters.
But you also have the magepaths to ignore your giants in the late game and commit to communion bullshit, i just never had to.

Overall they are in unsurprising in the same class as niefelheim in that if you want to dump your temp scales you better look first if one of the giants is not in the game to fuck you up and if you do dump your temp scales have something ready to deal with the giants coming to kill you.

>>533525260
that was all, thank you all wo played in this game it was fun and thank you all wo read my aar, sorry i am not that fast of a writer.
i wish the next time i am in such a long game i too get to fight a deathwar on the scale of the one i got to wath on the sideline.
seeing 5 ghost riders dropped on a army made my day and tartarians being actually used in combat is something that i havend seen in ages.

btw: has someone the link to zzz i will post it over there to

>>533526042
thank you, the aar was great, and well played and congrats on the victory

>>533516323
Fatigue play, false damage, and cold damage. Heat cloud doesn't do anything against illusions. You can drop the temp using rituals if you have good water and cast ice cloud. Pixies can spam elf shot which will get through the mr at some point and sleep the giant. Each illusory army is 20 illusions. Frozen heart. Simple things like diseases if you have N or D.

>>533526042
the throne game

>>533520708
Are you playing in singleplayer?

The only troops I'd use against Uruk are the ax guys, and archers if they're using the unhelmeted troops. Problem with the hurlers is they only have 2 ammo for 35 gold. Gigante warriors are not very good.

You can kill them with big fire/earth evocations. Magma eruption, falling fires, bane fires. Or you can buff and gear gigante and cyclopes commanders. Earthpower, ironskin, fire shield, temper flesh, phoenix pyre eventually. Or, you buff helotes with +strength earth spells and flaming arrows.

>>533527046
Wow they just let you win huh

>>533526702
>Heat cloud doesn't do anything against illusions.
is that because unit temperature auras can at most go to level 2, and level 3 is needed for clouds to deal damage?
how many fire evocations generate heat clouds, at what levels, and how does that interact with level one clouds from units near where the spells hit?

>>533526702
>>533527698
i guess unit heat aura by itself is useless against illusions, but add a single fire mage that casts the right fire evocations, and apart from any aoe damage of the spell itself, the heat clouds may get to level 3 due to the spell's heat, and begin dealing damage as well

>>533526042
i am retarded the link is on the Blitzservergame i posted the aar
a file limit of five and a character limit 20000 is convenient wo would have through

Is there any mod that fixes the stupid thing where every entrance to the underground spawns in the bottom left of the map?

>>533513423
>btw: enchanted Salt is a scam i used all my egems to give all my muspel Jarls one and it did nothing, anything else in the misc slot would have been more useful. If somebody knows how to make them work please tell me because i have no clue.
It's only good against the SC's and you need at least two of them throwing salt at him at the same time.

>>533527448
they there all busy in a fun deathwar or to far away and the once who tried to stop me died to Fire giants in heat5 and under Gift of health

>>533493072
Any interest in commissioning an oil painting?

>>533493072
Based patron of the arts

>>533530429
Nah i'd rather do it myself

AAAAAAA FUCK YOU MAN

Ulm do your turn in Crack

Pale Riders

Dead community, dead game, dead thread.

>>533566268
Then make something of yourself

>>533566268
Came back after 6 months break, seems like trooncords are kind of dying as well.

>>533578538
We still have a few games, just wait for the weekend

>>533578538
zemaitia...did not arrive...

>>533591179
Thursday

bump

>>533566639
I made something of myself and dominions is my respite from the something I have to be

>>533578538
Ripe time for anons to finish their dominions clones.

>>533611880
anons don't have the background of illwinter, even illwinter shouldn't have been able to make dominions

This will never be replicated and this is lightning in a bottle

>>533519623
I had to declare war on you because you were too powerful and leaving you be any longer would be gg. Though I had no clue what to do against regen fire giants since my main strategy relied on exploding meme ghosts. I tried to just turtle up, enchant walls and and hope someone else would come to my aid but everyone hated me after I cast Wrath of God lol. Which caused Oceania to rage quit who was my only other ally nearby. Then I just decided maybe foul vapors would work, nope, maybe holding the gates would work, nah he can fly. I tried mass raiding which worked okay but as soon as my castles got locked down it was hard to do anything.

I know you said use weapons of sharpness but that shit is hard to put on human sized dudes fighting 50+ giants.
I know you weren't actively mounting up dudes on my border and was probably thinking of going elsewhere but I felt that was the turning point in the game where there was a chance to stop you, even if it was a just a dice roll. gg well played though.

Though on the topic of Ubar I managed to kill a few in assassin battles and patrolling them out, but all the armies I sent were just meant to distract while I figured out what to do. I figured at least then it would divide up his forces a bit.

Pale Rider

>>533617156
>my main strategy relied on exploding meme ghosts

>>533617156
ea t'ien ch'i against regenerating fire giants, just have a million masters of the sword and spam evocations. And if you got alteration research, spam frozen heart with students of the way

Hahahaha fuck you Man!

>>533629291
How high was that pd anyways

>>533630115
Looks like 25.

>>533631028
25 troglodytes for just 25 pd? Troglodytes are expensive

>Curse of the Frog Prince doesn't work on monsterous toads

This is bullshit fix your game illwinter

>>533633290
I'll ask em

Do your turns in Crack

>>533631904
I'm mostly basing it on 19 + 2*6 Zotz Guards, which implies that each point adds a guard originally, but from 20 it also adds one more from Xibalban pd.

>oof size: large

>>533645215

>>533645215
>>533645446
Sic semper freespawn

>>533645215
how many sohei conversions can you get with a consul through apostasy?

>>533617156
i completely forgot Wrath of God 12+drn just does not kill giants, it just killed some of my scouts.
Well i was building up to become the thread but instead of simply breaking the nap and making enemies by casting Wrath of God you should have focused on dispelling Eternal Pyre.
It gave me so much value and increased the stats of my giants so much that it did not matter that that Rank and File you brought. bringing it down and casting wolven winter on your forts the moment i begun sieging them would have removed the stat advantage of my giants. Also casting Baleful Star would have made my giants collect afflictions making them battle to battle weaker.
You had guys with with 22 damage glaves for 10 gold, them buffed with 4+Strengh and ap weapons with a commander with +Morale would have killed my giants at roughly equal gold losses,but you could spam them out of all your forts while i could only get 5 giants a turn. But this strat only works in cold 2 or lower.
You would probably lost some forts in the battles but with the losses i would take i would have to slow down or even stop to gather strength.
Yea my flying Jarls there quite good. your best bet was probably to just keep them busy with shitty troops because in the end they only kill one man a turn.
In the end it was a meme Bless forced to fight a giant hellbless. If your bless had Righeuus Wrath +something, Unholy weapons +something or was something like stats+Quickness then your warriors of the of the five seasons would have killed my giants on contact with their two attacks a turn.

Thanks for the Ubar detraction btw, while he was hunting your men he did not try to break his cap siege, until i got Fay-eyed Warriors up i gave it a 60/40 on all his invisible Jins killing my Firegiants.

>>533617156
>>533648537
i think wrath of god together with foul air could have worked if Muspel did not have gift of health up

i wonder if illwinter should add something like wrath of god having a probability of striking twice for size 6+ units, with a larger probability the larger the unit

is eternal pyre modded?

22 damage glaves are cool, but muspelheim can bring lots of damage aoe spells to the battlefield, and humans are fragile. Then again, t'ien ch'i has some access to small communions and elemental resistance buffs

the jarls can script fire shield and some of them can script soul vortex with a gem, and they can have aoe weapons, they often aren't bad against lots of units. T'ien ch'i can use its wide paths to easily forge eyecatchers, a cheeky master of the sword might be able to walk up and make a jarl very sad

i agree about the bless. Unholy weapons + quickness would be expensive but especially good and funny

>>533650186
>i wonder if illwinter should add something like wrath of god having a probability of striking twice for size 6+ units, with a larger probability the larger the unit
the lore being that lightning has greater probability of striking tall structures like trees. Though people may dislike lightning striking the same target twice

>>533650186
he means Foul Vapors not Foul Air. Foul Air with wrath of god would have been a declaration of war against everybody else while hurting me the least.
Fire shield does not do as much damage as you think it does, it is reduced by weaponlengh, armour and resistances, it is only realy useful against unarmoured skeletons and ghosts.
Unholy weapons + quickness id overkill, 2 attacks with 15 ap extra or 4 attacks with a bit more strength is already a blender. with one of them one should rather focus on getting the scales and candles necessary to produce a good amount of them.

I've been stuck in a NAP now for six turns . is this a glitch? They declared war on my disciples but somehow I'm stuck in a NAP nobody else seems bound by

>>533653341
posting solution in case aNYONE else gets this problem: the war went thru once the pretender incarnated. wtf

>>533652078
>he means Foul Vapors not Foul Air. Foul Air with wrath of god would have been a declaration of war against everybody else while hurting me the least.
i know he meant foul vapours, but foul air might have been painful on your giants, since they're capital units, if you didn't have gift of health. How does disease and regeneration interact in the most recent patch of dominions 6? I recall disease reducing how much regeneration heals as disease progresses, and that it was changed, either from dominions 5 to 6 or in a recent patch, but maybe i'm wrong

>Fire shield does not do as much damage as you think it does, it is reduced by weaponlengh, armour and resistances, it is only realy useful against unarmoured skeletons and ghosts.
that's true, but fire shield increases with path level, and jarls have 3-4, making it a bit more damaging, and its damage is armorpiercing. And with regeneration + fortitude, passive damage is great, for instance if the jarl is stunned or paralyzed. It's also great against animals from swarm, who have armornegating poison attacks

>Unholy weapons + quickness id overkill, 2 attacks with 15 ap extra or 4 attacks with a bit more strength is already a blender. with one of them one should rather focus on getting the scales and candles necessary to produce a good amount of them.
true, but against regeneration + fortitude giants, overkill meme is best meme. Just imagine a sole warrior of the five elements taking out a jarl in an epic battle. Real kino

Is dominions enhanced any good

>>533659349
It changes a lot but most of the balance decisions are pretty dubious, as is typically the case for large scale mods.

>>533657371
Foul air does work, and Sauro (me) would not care since i have multiple disease healers and a true healer up. But it requires the unit to be wounded in battle first before it gets diseased. Commanders are basically unaffected since they have pyre of carthasis

>>533660787
>But it requires the unit to be wounded in battle first before it gets diseased.
does damage from wrath of god not work to get the unit diseased?

>Commanders are basically unaffected since they have pyre of carthasis
i forgot about that, good point

Is Therodos any good?
Looks like they gave the nation a few powerful gimmicks and then nerfed the shit out of everything else.

>>533663167
they're pretty bad due to spiritform tag the ghosts are just unusable

>>533663167
yes but youll have to play it for 300 hours straight to "get it" like me

>>533648537
I didn't break the nap I cancelled it in a very coordinated and honorable fashion giving me 3 turns to lube up.

Winged monkeys

>>533663167
They're...okay.

>>533677318
Such a fun spell for being so impractical.

>>533680641
What does it do?

>>533684964
It's a remote assassination spell that spawns winged monkeys that do fatigue damage. If they're target is human sized or smaller, they get carried off to the summoner's province and have to fight whatever is there. Not too useful as it needs a astral nature crosspath and they won't target mages, but still fun.

>>533685969
Is the no attacking mages thing a new addition to the spell?
I don't know if it was that spell or maybe a different one with a similar effect, but in the first game I ever won I used it to pull this fucking guy into my capital, with the hopes of killing it out of friendly dominion so that it'd stop coming back and wrecking the shit out of me.
I didn't manage to permanently him and he remained a fucking pain in the ass until the end of the game, single handedly stopping me from taking the last 2-3 provinces Ulm had left for like 30 turns, but it was still a fun plan to concoct

>>533687294
burkhard nachtzehrer is such a badass

>>533695456
Just look at those 3 Ulmish provinces stuck in the middle of birdland. I sent him to fucking hell and he just went full Doom guy and came back.

>>533697418
Tips on Gaylum?

Are sleepers good thugs?

>>533700273
Probably worse than whatever your nation can recruit

>>533700273
In-army thug maybe. That javelin looks pretty good. Only tried it in battle once though.

Is there a way to set up a custom army versus another custom army to test shit?