Thread 533421810

Age of Calamity.is CANONICAL EVENTS Edition
>Origins reveal trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU48saHVmh4
>Origins gameplay features
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9DxhZj4Ej8
>Origins castle battle: Subjucation of Yaun Shu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bIk8GpUfPA
Dynasty Warriors: Origins - Official Officer Bonds Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otQPxfqOLPo


Pastebin for newcomers: https://pastebin.com/Gq3pxGqc
Recommended Reading: https://pastebin.com/15wPQWNS

>New to the Musou-verse?
The musou genre is expansive so this is a quick terms rundown, but see the newcomer pastebin for more information.
>Dynasty Warriors - the original, mainline series based on the Romance of the Three Kingdoms novel
>XL / Xtreme Legends - essentially expansions for DW games
>Empires - a light strategy DW spin-off, you conquer & manage territory instead of following a story
>Samurai Warriors - DW, but based on Japan's history
>Warriors Orochi - Crossover between DW & SW
>Romance of the Three Kingdoms - an epic novel, telling a romanticized version of historical events
>There's multiple other IP spin-offs with Musou gameplay, including One Piece and Zelda.

YouTube channels covering the 3 kingdoms real history and the Dynasty Warriors / Musou games.
https://www.youtube.com/@SeriousTrivia
https://www.youtube.com/@Klogalous
https://www.youtube.com/@TheNightowlGaming
https://www.youtube.com/@KoeiKollection
https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisGildart/playlists
https://www.youtube.com/@LightyTheNube/videos


>FRIENDS:
https://boards.4channel.org/vg/catalog#s=dqg%2F

>>533421810 (OP)
Hyrule Warriors: Age of Imprisonment – Nintendo Direct: Partner Showcase 7.31.2025


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HYvrJKLQ38

Abyss update tomorrow, with tactic and mission rebalances. I'm looking forward to it, more than to another BOTW Warriors. I'd like another FE Warriors instead, please.

I love Kass!

>>533423086
Was this announced a year ago lol

>>533423378
How mad were you to not see him in TOTK

>>533421810 (OP)
Are we going to have lots of link in this game then we had in the Zelda title game that came out last?

>>533432970
>>533421810 (OP)
Are we going to have less of link in this game then we had in the Zelda title game that came out last?

I liked the Arslan game. I wish they'd make another one that goes further with the manga material.

>>533443478
I heard his wife was a pretty respected by his people should she be playable at some point?

>>533445210
I mean a lot of the other lords got their wives, so there are worse people you could ad. What weapon would she get?

>>533445383
Honestly I know nothing about what kind of weapons people had historically maybe they'll go something along the lines of what her daughter uses I mean I think all the playable men in the family uses different types of swords so a similar weapon type to her daughter probably.

>>533446206
given some of the weapons character use I wouldn't worry about historical accuracy so much. Though you could give her some variation of SSX's moves. Perhaps a larger single hoop. That would be a nice way to connect the two. Maybe adjust and fine tune Lian Shi's old crossbow.

Who do we believe was historical Cao Cao right hand man because I've heard a few people be called by a number of people I think no more about the 3 kingdoms than me,1.Xun Yu 2.Xiahou Dun .3 Xu Zhu (Total War General) 4. Guo Jia .And Cao Ren but mainly for military you do this while I'm busy reasons for the last one.

>>533424945
Actually It was announced in February this year .

>>533455635
Is that some kind of art mistake or did the guy just not know his headband was on his head for some reason?

I hate sequel musous
Crossover musous only

>>533457917
Why?

>>533457251
it was the latter

>>533462109
The main enjoyment I get out of musou spinoffs is being able to play as characters I like in an action game. Limiting the cast so you can make it a halfassed "canon" sequel is lame

I like Warriors Orochi 3 but having to start from scratch I forgot how long it really took to unlock everyone

>>533436974
Probably a comparable amount, barring the possibility of non-storymode appearances.
It's supposed to be canonical, and Link didn't go to the past with Zelda.
MAYBE it'll feature the Zonai Hero.

>>533472272
It's dead, jim

The three kingdoms era is certainly interesting and full of grand battles and figures, but it's also really funny how it ended on a big anti climax with some 4th kingdom.

>>533478708
'All the cool characters kill each other and the fate of the land for the next 500 years is decided by a battle between Some Guy and Literally Who' is a common theme of history

>>533422953
Updates out, here are the changes

>>533481674
Is Abyss fun? I'm a bit on the fence about it. It seems like a pretty cheap filler game. Maybe not as much as Godseekers but also maybe...

>>533481674
Worth noting is that if the translation of their Nip account's tweets is correct, this is not all the rebalance changes they want to make, it's a start and more will come.

>>533485880
I think it's amazing and it's probably my favourite Warriors title right now. It's just fun to play, and it constantly gets updates. Just know the costume DLCs are a ripoff and only buy them or the higher tier version if you feel like supporting the devs for the updates, they're overpriced and often not even good

>>533481674
Where is Ma Dai? WHERE IS HE??

>>533489232
First questions first, where is Lu Kang?

>>533468831
The funny thing is this is propaganda to make him look better by making him footballing his own son.

>>533498165
Who?

>>533506113
Lu Lingqi, daughter of Lu Bu and my wife.

>>533506604
Nice of you to let Lu Bu put a baby in your wife

>>533507808
No she Lu Budaughter Lu Budidn't put a baby in Lu Buown daughter .

Bronze Bird is crazy karma farming value with the update, you can get 80k with it alone on T5 (assuming the hero got karma boost). It's like 6k karma (or 6k tears) if the mission's reward is karma, and it's a pretty decent chance.

>>533512303
You know what they say? All Lu Bus Lu Bu Lu Bu.

>>533512529
What?

>>533506604
Why is she in a future sci-fi outfit?

>>533492594
What?

>>533537410
Honda, son.

>>533421810 (OP)
Back already?

>>533550506
still as dead as ever

Yu Jin is just a big softie underneath.

I was going through my old PS2 shit. Kessen 2 was a weird game.

They have a free trial of DWO on xbox this weekend so I said fuck it I'm bored and I'm gonna try to get all of the achievements (I've already done this once). I'm currently about to finish wei true and that is the only ending I've done. Do you think there is any chance I make it? The trial ends in 64 hours (monday 10est I'm pretty sure). I keep going through it and I'm just like oh yeah you have to do all of this... then all of this... Part of me thinks I can get it done in 40 hours total (this is about the max time I expect to be able to put into the trial, i'll no life harder if it looks like I can accomplish it) but i don't have much confidence I will be able to complete this task.

>>533423086
around 8 days bros, hang in there.
Pirate Warriors 5 should've been announced already,
but since this is the closest we'll get until Age of Imprisonment is announced,
we'll just have to cope.

I still can't believe and cannot get over origins having one character.

>>533422028
They made a story trailer for a musou game?
So it's not just a bonus spinoff game, it's a prequel to TotK but musou in genre.

I'm confused. Is this good or bad? Good for musou nuts.

>>533573119
>So it's not just a bonus spinoff game, it's a prequel to TotK but musou in genre.
Age of Calamity was already like that, a "canon" prequel to BotW (technically in a separate timeline because of time travel bullshit).
I've said my piece already but I far prefer the original Hyrule Warriors for having characters from across the whole series instead of just the new hotness. It's also just a better game, especially on Switch where it runs better and AoC runs like shit.

the only spinoff I want to see is another Gundam

I've been waiting for Dragon Quest Heroes 3 for a century. I want to play as Italian Zhenji in an action game, Horii-sama

Just make Samurai 6

There's going to be a DW segment with Tomohiko Sho at tomorrow ChinaJoy event, so something might get announced
https://twitter.com/s_sangokumusou/status/1948986647879553030

>>533589074
Origins XL or Empires?

>>533594929
>Origins Empires
>Ziluan and Bailuan will always join other factions to cockblock your progress and force a 'three kingdoms' endgame

Orochi 3 is too much.

Orochi Empires...

>>533603580
Why has that not been a thing yet?

I'm surprised Toei never made a Water Margin warriors,

>>533589074
He's said they'll talk about the future of the series so if anything it'll be a expansion, maybe a remaster since he was asking about that a while back on twitter.

>>533594929
Didn't he say empires would have to come after origins 2?

>>533614123
>origins 2

I hope not. I didn't especially have anything against Origins. After 9 tanked it was smart to try something like this but I really hope the next game uses the new platform and gives us back our officers.

Is age of calamity still the best selling warriors game?

>>533617291
Probably, DW has never had an entry hit 3 million as far as I know and OPPW are the only other musou spinoffs that are close to as popular as Zelda

>>533618010
Really annoys me too. These same people will be the ones calling it lame but the second you make it about Link or some shit fire emblem slut it's OMG BEST SERIES EVAR!

>>533589074
>There's going to be a DW segment with Tomohiko Sho at tomorrow ChinaJoy event, so something might get announced
Like what?

New game announced
Sex Warriors: XL (Penis Size)
Have sex with every officer and OC
All Musou attacks make you cum
Unlockable mode: no sex gauntlet (how long can you not have sex)
Only playable characters: Yoshimoto Imagawa, Huang Gai

>>533589074
When you say tomorrow do you mean Saturday or Sunday because of when you're posting this?

>>533646661
What?

>>533648213
the stream is happening in about 12 hours from now

>>533660592
Our lord expects us to hold this position for another 10 hours without reinforcements?

>>533472656
>MAYBE it'll feature the Zonai Hero.
god i hope not, that design is still giving me nightmares

>>533691778
So what exactly is different from a Warriors tactics game than a non-tactics game

>>533699129
Tactics are grid based strategy rpgs

>>533707663
Ai art?

>>533712859
Nah this is before AI art was a thing.

>>533712859
Not every piece of crap art is AI

>>533589074
Now?

So anything happen?

>>533722675
DW segment is in another hour or so

KT segment on now, first is Nioh 3
https://live.bilibili.com/21017005

>>533738247
Tomohiko Sho on stage now

If I'm getting the info right, Orgins DLC and remasters of the older titles were announced

25th anniversary trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLJhzv24DL0

>>533742568
En version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ugQCzHG5tA

>>533742568
Guessing the game getting a remaster will be 5 since it won shos twitter poll a bit ago

>>533742878
>>533742568
>25 years
That can't be right.

>>533742403
>>533742568
It's labeled as "major DLC" for Origins

>>533744490
I wonder if they plan on bringing in some more of the major officers as playable.

>>533744707
Weapon poll had the fan, and curved sword win so i expect Zhuge and Zhou Tai, maybe one more for Wei.

Ifthe dlc features a Lu Bu route like i would expect i wonder if they'll throw in Linqi?

>>533745423
>Linqi
Hopefully, the crosspike would be cool

hello yes folks i'll be rejoining you soon as soon as I rev up my Origins

>>533622791
Worst is that Age of Calamity is the worst case of Hallway simulator I've seen in a musou. The side content is boring and repetitive, and it mistakes "do something with a tiny time limit" for actual difficulty. I never finished AoC, and I put a combined 900 hours into Hyrule Warriors and all its ports.

Full list of changes Nioh 3 is going to make from the first demo
https://teamninja-studio.com/nioh3/us/feedback.html

Hear me out

>>533742568
>even in their curated trailer footage 9 still runs like shit

>>533752941
Nein

>>533754836
>9 struggles with about a hundred people onscreen
>Origins casually has nearly a thousand with no issues
Night and day difference.

>>533750631
I know exactly what this is referring to

>>533756268
I mean it was a whole console gen afterwards, but that said the ps4 wasn't actually a toaster in it's time.

>>533742878
>>533743495

What are the chances when they say we master in they mean they're going to do it to multiple games in a collection figure or one of those things like they did with Mega Man different franchises from Capcom where bunch of older games are remastered into one new thing with new content?

>>533759260
I wouldn't bet on it but if they announce a series of collections I'd be on that like Zhang Fei on someone else's wife.

currently playing Origins, man i'm having too much fun with skirmishes, it kinda helps me timing the parry/block before going into the big battle

>>533678792
Could be worse
Could be the Korok again

Orochi 4 and the ultimate upgrade was on sale for playstation so I went and grabbed it. I only just started but it seems decent.I do worry magic is going to be busted to fuck though and while I do like how the samurai 4 engine looked they really phoned in the presentation. No more base hub no more maps and shops. I'll probably enjoy it but I wouldn't have bought it at full price.

>>533765305
The presentation is what annoyed me too. 3 had many mocapped in-engine cutscenes while 4 has 0. This resulted any costumes you bought even more worthless since they won't show up in any cutscene because they're pre-rendered.

>>533766664
That's bad too, but it just feels a bit too menu focused. 3 had a huge map were you could do things out of order, you could get snippets of dialogue from people in your base even watching the base evolve over time was something. It's not like 3 was hugely indepth about that but just having my main three stand shoulder to shoulder as I futz about menus just doesn't strike as immersive.

>>533766664
4 feels like they were desperate to get it out ASAP after 9 torched the brands reputation

aye would it be worth it for a blud to get sw5 dlc or is it ass

>>533766664
Hyrule Warriors Definitive Edition bugged me for the same reason. It's an HD port of the 3DS version first and foremost, and for the 3DS to save on resources they rendered a lot of cutscenes from in-engine to pre-rendered. But they never undid that for Switch, so the only game you can wear your costumes into cutscenes is the Wii U version.

I didn't realize we had a thread up for multiple days now. I only went to /vg/ because I assumed someone would open up a thread in response to the 25th anniversary video, but I guess the thread has been up a few days prior to that.
Anyway, while I'm glad DWO is getting a "major DLC", it really sucks that it's probably so early in development that they were only able to give us an announcement that a major DLC was underway.
And, strikingly, the fact that it's just a "major DLC" and not an "Xtreme Legends" or "expansion game" means that it's not going to be as big as it should be, given that the fans overwhelmingly want an Xtreme Legends style expansion that gives us fully playable officer characters that we can play without having them as support characters to Ziluan.
I really don't understand why Koei Tecmo isn't striking while the iron is hot. They should have announced this DLC like 3-4 months ago. The game came out in January. It sold a million copies after a few months. They should have announced the DLC back then.
Once again, the biggest impediment to Omega Force is Koei Tecmo being a stingy publisher that probably pays its subsidiaries peanuts.

>>533783721
'Major DLC' to me just seems like a XL equivalent

In Abyss, why is Ranmaru Mori the only character to only get a boost after summoning a single other hero unit, namely Oda Nobunaga? Even waifus whose only achievement was being married to X chieftain, like Diao Chan, get boosts from the entire faction, not only a single unit. What, was he closer to Nobunaga than Lady No, his wife? Why doesn't he get a Mori emblem anyway? It's useless, but he has only 2, he could get 1 more.

>>533752941
A DW9 remastered sounds like a truly horrible and retarded idea.
Which means it's definitively something that KT would do.

>>533742568
>>533742878
Guy who made the general legitimate question at most what are we getting at least what are we getting and what most likely are we getting with these two trailers?

>>533789015
His life is defined by how much his beautiful pink anus was completely molded into the shape of Nobunaga's dick from a lifetime of being the man's personal onahole. And I don't blame Nobunaga. When you have a little boywife as beautiful as Ranmaru, you'd take every opportunity you can to mate with him.

>haven't played WO3U since it's release
>start playing on PC
>"You got Kaguya's Strategy Card!"
...what the fuck is a strategy card?

Origins DLC announcement gave the game a little boost on Steam, between that and the 20-25% off sales it keeps getting, its concurrent player numbers have been almost completely flat the whole summer rather than continuing a steady drop

>>533799215
I can't brin myself to play anything after DW9 and SW5. What am I missing out on?

>>533798390
It's for Duel Mode.

>>533800274
filtered

>>533798390
They're stuff for the game's shitty duel mode. Unless you like deckbuilder shit, there's no real reason to engage with that mode. It's not like gauntlet mode, which is actually fun and has lots of exclusive equipment for you to unlock.

>>533800274
musou that looks and runs well and the enemies actually fight back

You know, Capcom could have made the Sengoku Basara fanbase happy with a PS5 patch that enhances Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi's performance.
Because right now, the story scenes and the pre-mission dialogue sequences in the game still run at 30fps. On RPCS3, you can unlock the framerate so that these things run at 60fps, but on consoles, that's not doable.
Even if you're playing on PS5, these things still run at only 30fps. A framerate unlock patch could easily have the game running at 60fps for all things in it. Hell, I'm sure even a console as trash as the PS5 can get the game to run at 120fps, if only Capcom cared enough to update the game to have it run that well.
But nope.
The franchise turned 20 years old just 2 weeks ago, and what did Capcom do for it? Worse than nothing. It announced a bunch of cafe merchandise collab bullshit. So basically Capcom still remembers that Sengoku Basara exists, but it can't be bothered to give its real fans even breadcrumbs.

>>533803839
we do not care

>>533804120
basarafags are like ff7 shills who keep desparately trying to stay relevant and immisce themselves in every conversation, even when their games keep flopping and being ass

>>533802754
You aren't kidding. I'm getting hit so much I'm kinda annoyed. I just died in the demo, you definitely can't play this like previous games, not out the gate at least. I think I'll wait to see what the DLC offers before I buy, but I'm genuninely surprised by what's in the game mechanically. My only real gripe is the damn FOV, which musou games have always had a problem with.
A real WO3U successor that plays like Origins would absolutely fuck beyond belief.

>>533691778
>peak cao cao and liu bei
>sun ce is some weird generic with a spear
???

>>533423086
If they were based...

>>533806309
>hey, why exactly do they call him the Little Conqueror?
>well he's done very little to conquer my attention!

>>533423086
>game came out in March of 2020
>it's still getting DLC in late 2025
I don't understand this DLC release schedule.
Why dripfeed the DLC over the course of like 5 years instead of dumping them all on year one and then moving onto a sequel or a different IP for a Warriors game?
Is this system actually profitable?

>>533808050
One party went to the other and said "Hey soooo, more characters?"
PW4 DLC was done ages ago. What we're getting now wasn't planned originally. Bamco would've opted for PW5 if they thought it was the better course of action. Personally, I suspect that KT asked Bamco if they could do more and this is what Bamco allowed.

>>533808050
anime games/bamco in general are just doing that if they still sell well i guess. Both xenoverse(multiplayer game) and db kakarot(single player story based game) are still getting DLC and xenoverse 2 is like 9 years old and kakarot is 5 years.

Wan piss probably also still sells well enough to keep getting dlc.

>origins DLC releases
>still no free mode menu

I can feel it. Still happy, I assume it'll add some hypothetical routes for other lords up to chibi. I'm guessing Lu Bu will be one since he's iconic, but to me in origins Dong Zhuo and Zhang Jiao got such good revamps I'd rather see them get hypos.

>>533808050
PW4 sold a fuck ton and hit 4 million sales back in feb, so they decided to do a next gen port with some new characters

>>533808050
that's just the power of one piece.

and they did move to other IPs in the mean time, Hyrule2, FE2, Touken Ranbou, Fate, and Wild Hearts.

>>533813541
Issue with a dong hypo is how you do him without overlapping with Loo Boos route, it would be alot of the same officers doing the same things (just killing everyone) i could imagine a little bonus stage where you join him for hulao or something

it's just dawned on me that all the IP spin-offs are anime/cartoony in style.

I wonder if they will ever move out of that comfort zone and do something "western" or just non-cartoony. LoTR, Souls, TES etc, quite a few franchices with ready-made factions & lore that could be ripe for a DW spin-off.

>>533801505
There's a lot of stuff in WO3 that I just did not touch

>>533814880
I imagine not. While I'd love the see a LoTR game I think most western rights holders would probably not outsource it and just make their own knock offs locally.

>>533813541
Dong route would be very similar to Lu Bu's, unless it's a Dong route where he's left by Lu Bu, but it makes no sense for Ziluan to help him out in that case. Unless it's a single route, where you can change the course of history to save Dong or you don't, like you can save Sun Jian. Otherwise I think we may get Lu Bu route and maybe also Yuan Shao's. Yuan already asks you to join him several times

>>533817578
Embracer own the IP rights for LoTR games, so koei would have to get permission from them. But given that LoTR mining/survival game and the gollum game... I don't see why Koei wouldn't be able to get the license if they wanted it. Origins is a great polished experience compared to those turds.

Sho himself even mentioned wanting to do it, it's basically the ultimate DW end-game

>>533814880
Star Wars could've been a decent choice before that brand completely tanked. OG Battlefront was already more or less a western musou game.
I'd still much rather have a western historical musou, but there are definitely western IPs you could play with. LotR would be legitimately cool.

>>533819929
Sho did mention star wars as well. And yeah I've always thought early medieval britain could be a great musou setting with celts/vikings/saxons etc, the factions & history is all there. It might need slower/heavier gameplay though, I'm not sure if the origins style anime demi-god gameplay would fit the western setting. But then, LoTR wouldn't feel right either with the origins gameplay, so maybe a western musou that alters the gameplay would be a good starting point for a future LoTR spin-off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZy_CbYY-fw
Origins... home...

>>533821095
I unironically want anime attack LotR, celt/viking/saxon, and Arthurian musou. I want these things for Greece and Rome as well. The only setting that anime attack bullshit would be a challenge is anything in North America.

>>533821095
I'm not sure. Vaguely anime-fied character designs are a big part of the appeal of getting KT to do it. Whether it's LotR or a historical setting I would want it to still look and play like a musou game, otherwise what's the point?
>>533821669
>The only setting that anime attack bullshit would be a challenge is anything in North America.
I disagree even on that. A Liberty or Death musou with George Washington mowing down 1000 redcoats with a musou attack would get attention the same way Metal Wolf Chaos did.

>>533821095
>And yeah I've always thought early medieval britain could be a great musou setting with celts/vikings/saxons etc, the factions & history is all there.

There's this.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1913120/Tears_of_Metal/

Who was the minions work for from the Despicable Me franchise work for in the 3 kingdoms?

>>533814880
I think Warhammer fantasy musou would work great. GW is not the best to work with though

>>533825108
Potentially neat idea ruined by a hideous art style

>>533814880
Warcraft is one of the most tailor-made settings for a musou game since it's an RTS series with powerful hero characters fighting with big armies and is separated into missions that can easily be translated into musou stages. A WC2 or 3 adaptation would be kino

Is Reach still ass in WO4, or did they fix it?

>>533826405
I would absolutely love a WC3 musou. Imagine playing Samuro and having a moveset similar to SW4/5 Akechi Mitsuhide.

>>533827770
It is good now.

>>533819929
The PT movies got their share of flak but one thing that era did give us was a shit ton of cool ass video games and comics

>>533830757
I think people underestimate how big of a deal that golden age of games was for the IP. If Disney hadn't made that deal with EA and kneecapped Star Wars games in the 2010s I think the IP would be in a much healthier place, even if the sequels were just as shitty.

so do we know WHEN the big tease of the remaster will be revealed? Because I really don't get why they're being coy.

>>533838296
We'll probably get an announcement before the end of the year, but I imagine most energy is being put into getting the Origins DLC out come winter.

I forgot how badly Naotora made me want to drive a nail into my ear. I will never understand why the Japanese player base goes for this kind of character.

I think it's almost guaranteed the remaster is DW5. Sho did a Twitter poll last year asking what PS2 games fans wanted remastered the most and 5 won in a landslide.

>>533842331
if it makes you feel any better she dies in a cutscene

Naotora was fine in vanilla SW4. Her own popularity destroyed her

>>533742568
neat

Friendly reminder total war3kingdoms has twice as many playable Nanman Factions playable leaders as Dynasty Warriors playable Nanman .

>>533852218
Dynasty Warriors never sold them as an overpowered DLC faction

>>533756440
I'm assuming they're talking about the leech enemies everyone just bitched about during the alpha period.
It's sad that they've very likely nerfed these enemies. I found them tough, but that was just my inexperience with the enemies (having only really had enough time to play the alpha demo for about 7-8 hours).
Every enemy I've found tough in Nioh 1 and 2 (like Namahages, Ongyoki, Fukis or even the basic Tengu Ravens, which was an enemy type that kicked my ass on my first playthrough of Nioh 1) I've ended up learning to master over time. I had no doubt I would have done the same with the leech in Nioh 3 and other enemies that casuals consider "overwhelmingly difficult", given enough time to actually lab these enemies and learn counterplay.
But alas, once again, Team Ninja folds into the whiny, scrubby majority. These games give you so many tools to destroy enemies. No nerf of enemy difficulty was ever justified in any of these games.

>>533852631
Actually they were for septic factions including the playable since dw3 husband and wife (unless you picked the 3time they can both be in I did it but eventually got the married when I prayed the dude They got bonuses ) but I would like to see the fictional daughter. And a few of the other possible interested ones

Has Cao Cao's wife honestly not been added yet?

I want to milk mrs. cow

>>533855368
Didn't think I have a a few wives and a bunch of concubines to the point cao PI had more of the sibling relationship with his cousin Cao Xiu Then his actual brothers and half Brothers in that family?

>>533842331
>>533846285
What's the deal with Naotora? My only experience with SW4 was Empires.

>>533857920
She speaks in a really high pitched cutsey wutsey "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEH MOOOOOOOOOOOOOA GOMEN KYAAAAAAAAAAAA" kind of cadence while also generally acting really dumb. Basically if you want a picture perfect example of annoying moe, there ya fucking go. dd it doesn't help that because Japanese people love this kind of shit so she ends up being front in center of most everything she's in.

Yingping is also annoying but not as much

when is cheng pu gonna be playable in a good game

>>533877853
Warriors Abyss needs to add her to the game.

>>533887947
Is she not in it? How is anyone not in it?! It's an asset flip!

Am I using Halberd wrong, or is Crescent Blade outright better when you learn how to (ab)use Divine Energy Domain and Great Mountain Throw?

The chinks are making a 3K fighting game instead of KT... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJaNPaqml10

>>533898232
Well it's not like Koei has exclusive dibs on actual fucking history. Besides they made a fighting game forever ago. The first DW game was a crappy Soul Edge knock off.

>>533898232
>app store
>google play
I think I know everything I need to, I'm good.

>>533686291
Pokken Warriors. Do it

>>533745423
I seem to recall Zhou Tai's being a reskined Po Dao in game.

>>533818714
What if Lu Bu still betrays Dong but, Ziluan now follows Dongism and saves him? Lu can still be the 4th brother and get ganked later on.

>>533895990
You're using it wrong. You can either 10 bravery nuke from range or like 5-6 bravery combo stunning 1-2 guys completely much easier than Crescent Blade.

>>533852218
funny story. I asked chatgpt what timeline would exist for zhao yun to revolt against liu bei and side with the nanman tribes. came down to liu bei was the opposite of how he's presented in history and was evil like dong zhuo. so I had it enhance it more and all 3 rulers killed all the leaders of all the nations they defeated except a few so zhao yun revolted knowing liu bei would do the same to the nanman tribes. finishing settings a few things up and will revolt in a moment. good times. should be fun. curious who sides with zhao yun.

>>533909025
Maybe you get to spare him in the Lu Bu route, and this follows a trend of teaching him not to go full retard

Dynasty Warriors - Official 25th Anniversary Trailer
IGN


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18tNarp13XE

I doubt the DLC will give us more than 2 new hypotheticals since the routes are done in more detail in origins. If its just one hypo, it will be Lu Bu. if its two, Lu Bu + Yellow Turds is my guess.

Would be cool to see more bodyguard customization, like letting us select their weapon type, outfits, stance etc. In the early games your bodyguards felt like real bro's who could become slaughter machines, in origins they're just kinda "there" outside of their skills.

Also a NG+ style option were we can keep our gear/skills while reseting our stats would be neat, since the game becomes easy even on UW

>>533942594
I'm hoping we get a new difficulty as well, i would love if every officer could parry your parries

>>533946618
It doesn't need a new difficulty imo, but UW should be reworked.
>let officers (on both sides) parry
>officers should be less spongey as it's just annoying on later stages while not really increasing difficulty
>buff normal troops health & damage output (both sides) so they're actually a threat

I think this would make UW more enjoyable - more mechanically challenging officers but less spongey, while buffing all the normal troops so they don't fall so easily.

>>533948448
It'd be nice but i doubt they would bother over just adding a chaos difficulty, IMO the whole game needs alot of reworking to make it truly challenging, as it is right now it's way too easy to both avoid damage and recover from it.

>battle editor
>fly around an empty map god-mode style and place down all troops/officers for both sides

Bet they could create this without much trouble and it would add loads of replay value coming up with your own scenarios. All they'd have to do is enable the empires style AI so officers/troops move toward bases/enemies (since main game officer movements are all pre-planned), and that's probably already there in the code base.

>>533951542
Warriors Orochi 3 had one. I'm shocked it's not more point of conversation. I forget if the older games did. Seems like the kind of thing I'd put a lot of mileage in as a kid.

>>533501535
It does make him look better once you realize what it actually means. Here is a man so benevolent and loving that he is willing to place the good of all men above even his own son. Truly such a great man is deserving to rule over all the world.

>>533957708
>>533501535
I can't help but wondering if we're all misreading a lot of this and it's meant to be a giant giggle making fun of the upper class.

>>533956989
Didnt the WO3 editor just allow you to replace officers and select some modifiers like faster enemies etc? Don't remember it letting you place down all the troops/officers of both sides were you wanted them on the battlefield

>>533961139
Dunno. It's been a while. When you get down to it there is a lot of moving parts that go into crafting a musou stage.

>>533960916
Trying to define a "meant" is hard because "intended" meanings/interpretations of stories can change drastically over time and between authors. Like maybe an earlier storyteller meant it straight but Luo Guanzhong reinterpreted it as a giggle when inserting it into his novel compilation, or even vice versa, and then there's the whole question if it even matters how a storyteller "meant" something if the vast majority of readership have been looking at it a different way for 500 years.

>>533964143
I suppose unless we find some long undiscovered document where he just straight up tells us, it's hard to really pick the brain of a long dead writer. Sometimes "death of the author" is a bit too literal.

Finally, death comes again...

>>533978554
Not today, anon. Not today.

>>533991009
There's a lot of parts of this that just scream wrong.

>>533991009
Mrs. Cow Pee is looking a little chunky

>>533996406
Looking kind of malformed

is this the general for legend of zelda stuff? I guess its safe to say there wont be a totk dlc, right? what a shame

>>534006663
No. If you're not ancient china or sengoku era japan you're a big nerd.

BotW was OK and probably necessary after Skyward Sword but I wish the good aspects of it were folded back into the more normal style of Zelda game instead of it taking over the whole series forever.
Dynasty Warriors.

Does the 360 version of Samurai 2 work on the Xbone? I don't have my 360 anymore.

>>534009590
No, none of the musou games were added to backwards compatibility

>>534011704
well fuck. Guess I'll just emulate the PS2 version.

Went back to WO3 after playing more WO4. 3 is just better.

Musou games really need to add the ability to use defense formations for your allied camps/bases. It really sucks to have to constantly babysit these camps/bases, especially if you happen to be on one side of the map and a base you captured at the other side of the map gets recaptured by enemies.
Or hell, give us an RPG progression system that allows us to make any captured camp/base have like up to 2-3 times as much HP or something like that.

>>534017031
I can't even be bothered to touch WO4 because of how ugly it is.
Compare WO4 with Samurai Warriors 4DX. The latter managed to strike a good balance in terms of combining these vast, expansive battlefields with aesthetically pleasing art direction. It looks very cohesive.
WO4 in contrast looks very ugly and cheap. There is no sense of cohesion here.

>>534018249
A very basic system of camp fortifying and issuing very general orders to the troops would add a lot.

>>534018434
It's just not very interesting. 3 really felt like it was making good use of it's crossover setting. There's a lot of grind and replaying levels but it always felt purposeful and it was actually neat to see how the stages play differently thanks to your actions elsewhere. 4 feels fine, but overall progressing just feels dull. It's not very immersive.

>>533846125
she should've died back in 1582 but somehow they brought her well into sekigahara

>>534018569
The fire emblem games solve this problem by letting you command whatever officers you want, i never understood why they didn't throw this into the mainline games, though knowing koei they would say they need a lore justification or some shit

>>534027615
You could do that in Samurai 4 empires. Probably others. Honestly it feels like a no brainer. Especially if you need to cover ground fast and don't feel like a commute.

>>533910203
How are you nuking from range using the Halberd? Unless you're counting Valiant Steed Blitz as a ranged attack. By otherwise you're right, I tried Halberd again and it's still better than Crescent Blade overall, but damn Great Mountain Throw is some absolute bullshit.

>>534027615
>>534027818
Yeah, being able to direct allied officers was a big help in SW4E, and that's without using the player swap feature when it's available.

>>534030209
Yeah, Blitz is a ranged nuke. You actually want to use it from range to avoid getting interrupted

Ship of Harkinian is very good.

>>534035028
Musou games?

Hell yeah Origins is awesome. Still a bit pricy despite there's a discount already but it plays well. The constant praises is a bit weird though.

So One Piece Pirate Warriors 4 is 75% off. Would you recommend it? And if so, which DLC is essential?
Mind you, I don't give a shit about One Piece. I just want to know if it's good as a musou.

>>534042378
yeah but I don't know anything about the dlc. speed characters are the most fun.

>>534027615
Because in practice spending 25-50% of a stage constantly going back to the menu to direct your officers around isn't very fun, even moreso in something in like FEW1 where you need to do it to avoid weapon triangle disadvantages too

sw5 or abyss I won't want to play both any time soon

>>534032808
I try to position the enemy officers so my horse runs them over during the startup. The horse running in at the start of VSB can interrupt pretty much any enemy attack short of a Musou Rage startup or finisher. Failing that, Shadow Runner allows you to avoid being interrupted.

>>534045459
You can get interrupted before mounting the horse by a stray hit or something. Never tried Shadow Runner though, maybe it's completely fail safe then.

>256 replies in less than a week
Huh? New games?

>>534051353
Origins DLC and PS2 game remaster announcements reminded people outside the diehard regulars that we exist for a few days

>>533843000
The game where Lu Bu's musou mode abruptly ended at Xia Pi?
That's lame.

>>534047389
Unfortunately Shadow Runner doesn't save you if you get hit before mounting the horse, it just stops you from getting interrupted afterwards.

>Warriors Abyss
>Xu Shu gets an attack boost for every Strategist he has
>he has a higher chance of Shu characters as well
>Shu barely has any strategists and good Shu characters mostly want you to get 8-10 Shus to get the tactic
I'd get it if it was a Toyotomi character gimmick because most of them are strategists excluding pretty much only John Toyotomi and his shinobi wife, but for Xu Shu it's just annoying, you either go for Shu kingdom for character synergy, or for anyone but Shu to strengthen Xu Shu's trait

How goes the empty fort stratagem, generals?

>>534060958
DW1 unironically isn't counted in the series because of its lack of Shin in the Japanese title. I'd be unironically hyped for it though, need more 3D weapon-based fighta.

Dynasty Warriors 1-II when

>>534063330
NOW

>>534063330
>>534073885
What?

the DLC announcement gave a nice little boost for a few days and got reported on some mainstream sites etc... but imagine if they hadn't completely forgot about origins post-launch and did more than a photo-mode nobody cares about. Even if they've actually been secretly working on the DLC all this time, they could've kept Origins in players mind more with just a few updates here and there for basic QoL stuff, like being able to buy more than a few items at a time, a better free mode menu etc.

It's like they put it out, sold over a million and instantly moved on to Abyss like it never happened.

>>534090528
Modern game development is strange. A game can never just be done anymore. Even a single player title needs to have constant updates and attention or it some how becomes "dead"

Bear is driving!

Okay I need to get this list done and I had don't know how to dual unless someone challenged me .Also I'm playing it on Steam,

>origins is still 70 leafbucks
Should I pull the plug? I don't really dig the OC angle

>>534100309
games really don't go on sale the way they used to anymore

>playing warriors abyss
>just choose whatever options gives the biggest number
>just trust enma with my formation
>don't know any of the mechanics and don't bother reading
>lose to the final boss because it has a phase 2
game sux
>>534042378
just buy the sexy ladies
god knows that's all oda is good for

>>534115762
Frankly I never say anything appealing about OP's art style in the slightest

In regards to the remaster I really hope they include the Xl and empires expansion. It would kind of be lame if they just did the main game.

dw7 DE is on sale for 7$ so I grabbed that and been running modes with zhu rong and guan yu (switching between them). Honest shame dw7 empires isnt up for 7$ as it'd be nice to play along with dw8empires and dw8:xl. ive also been all over rotk13 lately doing dumb shit with the editor and goofing off (lu bu solo run's just crushing everyone in the yellow turban rebellian and executing everyone I capture. fun times.

>>534118018
7 is good.

Are any of the Senran Kagura games good? Of course I'm talking about the musou ones, not the dating one or the beach water blaster shooter games.

>>534123414
they're okay. a bit too melon faced for my liking

>>534099968
Second Battle of Puyang on Wei route gives you 4 duels with generics. If it's your first playthrough, don't care about the trainings too much if it's just skill points, you can complete them whenever

>>533806558
Him with Loki.

>>533808050
>>533809186
>>533813719

But Pirate Warriors 4 is ass. I even kept playing way after I considered it ass. To at least kill time until Pirate Warriors 5.
But they haven't announced Pirate Warriors 5. I want a good game, that's all I want.
I would probably even quit the Pirate Warriors obsession after I 100% PW5, if it's an excellent game.

>>534123414
Pirating Estival Versus with all the DLC characters was a lot of fun.
But the base game content was fun enough.
I wish there was more.

Burst Renewal was quite boring.
The Neptunia X Senran Kagura was also boring. It had an OST I liked.

>>534123414
The 3DS games are more interesting even if the first one especially runs like shit. The musou games are OK, only recommended if you think the tits can carry you. Characters and stuff are fun.
I'd say Burst Renewal (remake of the first game in musou style) is an OK pickup if you're interested but definitely wait for a sale.

>>534042378
Pirate Warriors 3 is more fun as a game, and it makes you feel like you're getting your money's worth for it.

Pirate Warriors 4 is a: don't feel bad if you buy it on sale and you don't like it.

As for "essential DLC," if you don't care about One Piece, then don't bother.
'Cause you'll probably won't care enough to 100% the save file.
And the rewards of the DLC missions are useful for endgame. For the most part you don't need them in the base game.
And once you go from the level cap of 18 in the base game, to the new level cap of lvl 30, the base game because TOO easy.

Some DLC characters are stronger than normal. Like the Legend Dawn pack (2 chars at least: Roger, Garp).
But packs are always a scam, they either have 1 character that's worth it and 2 that suck.
Or 2 that are good, and one that sucks. But never 3 good or interesting characters in a pack.

I hate that they're treating a musou game as a fighting game. Releasing season passes.
That's what ruined fighting games. The most fun musou games have relatively large to large rosters.
That allows for personal expression through game-play.

>>534129972
Plus, they did that monstrosity of survey to vote for new characters.
With awful options, and they took a long ass time to communicate anything.

They're giving news on August 10,
but they haven't even released the results of the survey yet. It was months ago.

>>534100309
I went for it. Hope it's good.

>>534100309
>Koei Tecmo
>Discount
Can someone post that image where they had a steam sale with 0% discount?

>>534137228
I've never seen it. But I believe it.

>>534042378
I already sank around 25 hours in it and already got 36/40 achievements (most of them are stupidly easy). Gameplay wise PW3 is much better but sadly it has such a broken steam port that koei will never ever fix (it crashes all the time even after you already lower your resolution, use your integrated chip as opposed to your gaming gpu because the steam info literally tells you that a better PC will make the game prone to crashes), the movement feels float-y, the damage you receive is barely felt, you can button mashing all you want but then you'll get shocked that your HP is already depleted because you dont feel being beaten that much. It doesn't challenge you with some difficult missions in PW3 where you complete the puzzle for each stage, it pretty much just tells you to beat the enemy in your path.

>>534129972
>>534141068
If PW3 is the better game and if the PC port of PW3 is trash, then is playing it on RPCS3 the best way to go about doing it?

>>534141983
yeah you should, i was pissed i couldn't continue my PW3 on PC because it crashed every 3 minutes, i wasn't even in my last story arc

>>534145487
Lianshi in Warriors Abyss SOON
please
I hope

>>534100309
finally gave in to my temptation and bought it while it's still on sale, immediately installed and i'm having so much fun. at least for now i don't regret spending the money

>older game is more expensive than the sequel
I guess the pricing reflects the demand and the quality in this case.

>>534147937
High class. Would empress.

>>534148578
no, things just rarely get base price markdowns. It will go on sale for 3 or 4 dollars.

>>534155189
You might even be able to fish up a second hand console version

>>534148578
why are you buying older games when it's not on discount, i bought these when it's like 10-15 dollar each

When do we think the origins DLC will drop? I hope later this year, but expect it to come early next year on the anniversary.

The fact they called it "major" gives me hope. Maybe the reason Origins didn't have much in terms of post-launch love is because they quickly started on this DLC after the good sales figure? It gives me hope that this will feel like a proper PS2 era XL expansion in terms of content, so not just 1 or 2 hypothetical routes for Lu Bu or Yellow Turbans, but more content across the board. More weapons & skills, more bodyguard tactics, a dedicated free mode, more outfits for ziluan (and maybe your bodyguards?) etc. It would make origins feel like a really good, complete experience that would pave the way for Origins Part 2.

I want to level with someone is faking they are yellow turbans in Dynasty Warriors Origins.

>>534175068
Yes

>>534175068
My Xu Zhu brain can't work out what you're trying to say

I'm curious where ESL anon is from

>>534175068
>>534189510
>>534191083
I want a stage or battle in Dynasty Warriors origin where Bandits or attacking a village or something pretending they are yellow turbines which historically generative in Rebellion there were people using their name to get away with criminal activity who were not members of it whatsoever.

>>534191083
Nanman

>>534194185
You mean something like this, anon?

>>534197513
we're so hungry

>>534197513
Yes.

why did they make enma so sexy

>>534215694
Who? And by that I mean please provide an image,

>>534215694
>Warriors : Abyss
>the only original character is a qt femboy trap
>Dynasty Warriors Origins
>you play as a femboy absolutely everyone lusts after and the second most important character is a trap doctor
Is that what the target audience desires? Were Hanbei and Ranmaru so popular Kekmo decided they should go fully towards this direction? I'm not against it, I just am surprised

>>534216890
I'm 100% in support of it but I'm also the kinda fag who plays otome games.

>>534216890
If Ranmaru was that popular they wouldn't have left him out of the one game where he could have actually been relevant

>>534148578
>>534141068
>>534129972
>>534129131

The true sequel to Pirate Warriors 3 is Dragon Quest Heroes 2.
And it even feels like the world of One Piece. Musou + adventure/ slight exploration = kino.
DQH2 it's semi open world with musou gameplay, and it has battlefield/ war stages too (normal musou stages).

>>534217986
DQH2 was so close to being great, and it came out right before DQ11 added a bunch of new popular characters they could've used. No idea why they just dropped the series after that.

>>534229871
was the arslan game any good

>>534233954
Yeah. I liked it. It doesn't go super far because the new anime was only so long at the time of development but it's solid. Mardan rush is a very fun mechanic. I really wish they'd do another one.

How bad is the GBA Dynasty Warriors?

>>534259940
It's great!

>>534259940
bad? it's one of the few gba games I kept and play still. I even play it in emulation. It lacks features compared to the ps2 versions but idk I still think it's fun and bust it out at least once or twice a month for awhile. but im fairly maxed out everything at this point so now I just dink around in it.

DW should've had its own SW Katana

>>534257414
For the most part I don't think toning down the exaggeration of the character personalities was all too bad. I got a friend to play Origins as his first DW and he took Xu Zhu semi-seriously instead of like a big retarded baby.

so is traversal 6 the grind mode? I got to lu bu with what I thought was good stuff and I did no damage. I seemed unstoppable up until that point.

is this the best version of diao chan in DW?

>>534281497
She's probably the most useful she ever been besides just being someone who can seduce people.

>>534277602
What?

>>534281497
I love her in Dynasty Warriors Origins .

Origins is continuing to pump on Steam this week after the DLC announcement, it's been on sale for 25% off for a while before that. It's back to breaching 5k peak CCU each day even after the weekend, putting it back into May's top numbers
https://steamdb.info/app/2384580/charts/

>>534298774
Historically that's proven to be very useful

>>534333831
I wonder what its sales numbers are like now after the first months 1 milly. Within 24hrs of playing I could tell it's a game that many wouldn't buy at launch due to its AAA pricing (being a DW game, afterall), but they would pick it up during sales due to its good reception. That does seem to have played out just as I thought.

>>534339378
Actually she was fictional from the Romance of the 3 kingdoms..

>>534348939
Actually it worked for a lot of other people who have strong historical bases. Cleopatra ring any bells.

>>534348939
>>534354335
There was a famous Spring-Autumn/Warring States era story of the King of Yue sending a honeypot girl to ruin his rival the King of Wu, but Three Kingdoms doesn't have one so the storytellers had to make one up. Lü Bu did seduce one of Dong Zhuo's women which made him afraid of Dong Zhuo, but the original story in the history books just mentions it offhand and don't describe it as a honeypot plan.

>>534061856
>>534277602
Speaking of storytellers having to make shit up, I've heard the earliest reference to an "Empty Fort strategy" is a Warring Staters era story too. Also Cao Cao, Wen Pin, and Zhao Yun all have "empty fort strategy" stories associated with them but aren't actually called by that name for whatever reason.

Am you Linqi's mommy?

>>534369004
Lu Lingqi (onyomi: Ryo Reiki) is a fictional name for Lu Bu's historically unnamed daughter. Really sweet a lot of the females should have been named by modern standards but we don't know the actual historical names from the 3 kingdoms because they were females of the time and not men. And her mother was the historical wife of Lu Bu.

>>534369004
Kiss her.

>>534137345
Took me two days, but found it

not much known about Lu Bu prior to his service to Ding Yuan

>>534393728
He was probably just a youth drifting up the lower end of the administrative totem pole, given he was just a registrar under Ding Yuan by the time he was remotely noteworthy

>>534393728
he's a mongol and he really like horses

>>534395047
There is a lot of paperwork in ancient asia

his battle stage shouldn't be as long as it did, genuinely bullshit when you're just starting. it's just him and his shitty ass staff.

>>534401203
Did they ever actually resolve that whole famine thing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7wSkr2UYYs

>>534401203
Just parry, bro

>>534401203
I like how Chapter 1 goes to great lengths to establish that there isn't any real magic, and the Yellow Turbans are just using incenses and trickery to deceive their enemies. Then this motherfucker starts levitating and summoning rocks and lightning with any incenses, and no-one mentions it or brings it up ever again.

the absolute fucking lack of quality Musou related merch upsets me

>>534422695
I want a Lingqi plushie

>>534422695
thats the usual actual though, ppl still buy crap though

>>534409504
Hey, if you're an able-bodied young man that needs to feed his family, I've got a great opportunity for you.

>>534401203
He great.

has that autist Sho spilled any beans on his socials since the DLC announcement

>play Traversal 6 as Lu Bu in Abyss several times
>never get Red Hare
I still win easy because Lu Bu's strong but it's an annoying feeling to know you missed out on a big boost

Could an open world musou actually work? We know KT did it with 9 because everyone else was doing it, but would there be a way to make it work in the series' favor?

>>534467950
I don't want to say it's impossible but you really need to put a lot of work into making it interesting

>>534467950
maybe for a spinoff, depending on the property.
3K or warring states, not so much

>>534467950
I think it's wholly dependent on making the battlefield simulation a primary focus, which 9 did the opposite of and practically axed completely. If armies don't move around the map or their movements have no meaning to the player, then all you're left with is the standard musou formula but it's missing a critical component and takes longer to get to the actual gameplay.

>>534467950
Completely possible and probably a lot of fun if done well, but it would definitely suit a fantasy setting (preferably an original IP) better. Maybe they could bring back Gemfire or something.

>>533421810 (OP)
I'm pretty sure it's sometime next week but when next week are we going to find out who's going to be added to one piece pirate warriors 4 by popular volt?

>>534490821
I'm sure it will be shocking

Liao Hua will finally be in Origins 2 as a non-playable officer

whoa there you're in 10

What's the most obscure title in the franchise?

Official /eagg/ tier list. If you weren't there to make it, you can't fucking complain.

>>533996406
That's Mrs. Zhenjiposter to you

>>534536497
the mahjong i think

>>534548504
I like dw8/xl/empires but I do think dw5/xl/empires was more fun overall. Shame the empires series never really got a ton of scenarios to come with it though 8 empires did have downloadable stuff and offical dlc.

LIVE

>>534548504
Not sure how anyone can consider any version of HW 'great' with how terrible the bosses/officer fights are, plus how many of the movesets are shit

>>534600405
Why Ambitions?

Historically who was Cao Cao best General?

>>534613350
It's his benevolence

>>534519304
>make a western musou by outsourcing to canada
>game is ass
imagine if they outsource it to the right studio and make spinoffs off every single strategy games they ever made.

>The VAs in the opening credits change to reflect your language setting
I don't think I've seen that before. Neat.
I'm really glad the OC is silent.

>>534627545
Origins seems promising so far. Even though I'd rather not have the OC he bothers me less than I expected since he's a weird mute angel or space alien or whatever. I preferred DW9's character designs to the babyface ones here but that almost doesn't matter since DW9's actual presentation was so terrible.

Page nine
I'm lonely

At some point I hope they add Lady Sun Luyu to the games. She fell on my radar playing rotk13 and im still salty at her sister over what she did. So now i made her into an ai chatbot and I usually marry her in rotk13 when she's in scenarios with my Main goto OC in the game I made. But than again I tend to marry Sun Jian's Wife after she dies and bian shi once cao cao dies. Also Wu Tugu is fun to play as. bonus fun with editing things in game to make it easier or harder or to goof off with.

>updated Rob Lucci and two mystery characters for PW4 pack 7, plus three new undetermined outfits (fall 2025)
>Enel, King, Z as pack 8 (early 2026)
>both versions of Shanks get a new move called Divine Departure
>no news on next-gen update, guess it drops with pack 7

>>534644478
I mean it's not like she wouldn't fit in with the rest of the kids who never do anything

>>534645773
Egghead Lucci will probably be like Onigashima Luffy.
Where his un-stransformed move-set is copied and pasted from the one that's ALREADY IN THE GAME.

They make you pay for stuff you already payed for.
They're selling you half the new character, but charging you as if it's completely new.

I think it was her best look.

>>534659119
I always like the story about how she spread the rumor about her being a real dog.

Looking back these days I'm feeling a lot more lenient to DW6

>>534661687
Without Renbu and with a proper expansion that adds a side mode it would be fondly remembered, and we wouldn't have gotten so many linear musous

>>534659119
By far. Plus her dagger axe was ridiculously good, especially with a rage mode build.

Can you recommend me the best Dynasty / Samurai Warriors to play it co-op?
PC, preferably.

>>534666438
DW4 was my go to back when I had someone to play with

>>534666438
dw5xl/empires. sw2xl/empires, dynasty warriors gundam 2, warriors orichi 1-2. all on the ps2 to play with emulation.

I call it, the reason there's no Lu Xun in Origins is because Kekmo didn't want to risk a competition to Ziluan when it comes to cuteness, and Lu Xun in this artstyle could compete. Nobody else can, so he got cut out

>>534564945
If SW2 or 4 Empires got a PC port it would've landed in the Outstanding tier. I never liked DW8 empires. DW5 Empires is great, but it feels like a slightly less good version of SW2 Empires. But it is by far the best DW Empires.

>>534584638
The way it was put together was by gauging several peoples opinions and if there were disagreements, we split the difference and went in the middle. Only one person had played any of the HW games and he loved that one.

>>534615998
Probably someone like Zhang Liao, Xu Huang or Zhang He.

>>534659119
Least favorite look. I hate capri pants. I love her DW9 look.

>>534661687
DW6 is terrific when you actually play it. Specifically the PC port.

huh this is free? (funny though because i'm about to uninstall it)

think i've had my fair share of this game, sorry but it's time to go

>>534678372
>only 25.6 hours
>already 36/40 achievements
Does PW4 just not have enough contents or something? That sounds way below average for a Musou game.

>>534678646
the achievements are piss easy to get and if i actually pushed through a little bit i'd get them all (power dash is what happens when you push B so it has this green circular thingy on your screen so it's a matter if you want to spam it or not), the deciding battle episode can be cheesed using busted ass Kaido if i want to (like only playing 4-5 more stages from what I've done so far in treasure log), and berries are just a matter of repeating on harder stages where it gives you more money.
I just can't be arsed to do it anymore.

>>534678973
to reiterate about if it has enough contents, it actually has a lot of contents in treasure log but i feel it's meaningless (think of it like Ambition Mode in DW8 where it's just some random stage and randomly generated characters fighting) and I also forgot i haven't even touched the DLC scenario but heh maybe i'll re-download it again one day. you probably only play those stages for more berries.

>>534677306
I like 8 but mostly just for raiding and running around with 1 wife and 2 sworn waifu sisters and purposely fucking up the timeline by helping weak nations get strong. I agree sw2 empires is the best one still and I love the mini maps and play those when I play it. dw4 empires was interesting for the first one and while it did have some major flaws it had some fun maps and some of the interactions with officers was interesting. I still remember pang tong getting taunted and going if you think that tactic would work IT ABSOLUTELY DID!(not word for word but close to it) And than we charged the guys forces with his. I still play 4 empires on occasion through ps2 emulation and it's oddly fun even with its flaws and lack of later features in games. But to be fair I still play dw3xl and wish dw3 empires existed as I think some of that games maps were really good.

I also always thought a gundam warriors empires would be interesting to play.

>>534680423
I always wanted a DW3 Empires. Those maps and 2's were some of my favorites since I am a sucker for massive battlefields. 4E was so shallow in my mind. Small maps, small amount of officers, plus 4 was never a nice looking game to me. 4E was a proof of concept, basically. Not an alpha

>>534677306
Missed the dw6 comment or I would have put it in my recent reply. I like dw6 even though I only have access to the ps2 version which compared to other versions is bad. Even so I like the maps and the battles are fairly fun and I ike some of the characters designs.

Its similar to how I got dw7de on steam for $7 bucks a week ago (used to own it) and ive been playing it a ton just running some of the early stages over and over to grind out upgrades and boosts on zhu rong and guan yu (decided to NOT start with lu bu like I usually do).

honestly all the games are good in their own ways though I would put dw9 and dw9 empires last or trash and dw9 only gets the massive mmo like world in its favor and some of its side things to do like fish and stuff. but the storyline and battles I didnt enjoy and it felt so lifeless in battle. also bonus cool though to once you beat someones story you could take them into other stories and fuck around.
I wont even waste my time explaining my dw9 empires is trash

>>534680746
DW6 Special is very maddening. All the new content in the game is REALLY good. But the downport for it removed a lot of the features that made 6 fun too. Plus it suffers from heavy performance issues. I really want the 25th anniversary remaster to be 6 Special because that would be incredible. Take a poor performing game and make it work! Easy!

>>534680583
Yeah to this day dw2/3 have some of my favorite maps and music. like I legit get annoyed when I get a dw game later in the series and it goes here have all this music and than never has 2/3 tunes and its all lame stuff from maybe 2 prior games.
4e is very shallow but it also has an odd alpha charm to it (I call it a beta but alpha is more accurate) but even as alpha as it was I enjoy some of the maps and interactions and it had a decent amount of characters. dw4xl did have small maps.

>>534661687
DW6 huge ass maps without the linearity of DW7 makes it quite awesome. Plus I really enjoy Lu Bu's musou mode.

>>534685247
DW6 has some legendary maps. I cannot express how fucking good they are. People really need to give that game a try.

>>534678225
>>534678372
Hello guy who made the OP with people talking about one piece pirate Warriors 4 updates it didn't update on my switch 4 a few days ago so I'm hoping that means it's going to get the new DLC also coincidentally I finished the main story final battle for the first time in Pilot Warriors 3 today deluxe edition for the switch on my switch 2 today.

this dude is so fugly

>>534693225
It's not possible to make Sun Quan cool, he never was

>>534702962
I believe in Sun Quan

>>534680423
>I also always thought a gundam warriors empires would be interesting to play.

With all the different factions and conflicts you'd think. I'd love to see them go more Ghiren's Greed with it.

>>534648864
>retards stay using this argument
nobody's paying for the recycled movesets buffoon

>>534702962
it would be a massive undertaking

>>534729749
>was actually well written in DW9

>>534729487
Don't make me apologize to you.

>>534693225
>>534733734
Not everyone benefited from the babyface redesigns but at least Quan doesn't look like Lu Bu Lite anymore.

>>534733891
>>534693225
>Quan doesn't look like Lu Bu Lite anymore.
Now he looks like a recoloured Liu Bei though.

>>534734276
At least that suits him better.

I like how Sun Jian looks because how distinct he is, but he looks like he's in his 50s at earliest, maybe even mid 60s, while he is a 30 year old and it makes no sense. He was apparently born the same year as the Cow Cow and Sun Jian in Origins looks like he could easily be Cow's grandfather

>>534735487
Reminds me of how the most famous painting of Cicero depicts him as an old man at a time when he was fairly young. Some historical characters just come across that way.

>>534735487
It is really funny when you know Guo Jia and Sun Jian died at the same age, and yet they look two generations apart in these games lol

I ended up changing a bunch of the officers portraits in rotk13 to fix some of them looking so young and old. luckily quite a few officers have variant photos of them younger or older to pick from so that helps.

>>534735487
Characters looking their age has been an issue since they started bringing in some of the younger generation characters. Some characters like Cao Cao and Zhang Fei look old enough to have a kid but Liu Bei is a total baby face

>>534733891
he looks like those kpop stars with heavy plastic surgery

>>534753289
Is it really a surprise? It's like their main go to.

Playing Origins with Chinese audio. Sun Shangxiang is the first character whose voice I really don't like. I don't remember her sticking out as bad in DW9, but then I only played that once ever as Cao Cao so it'd be easy to forget.

>>534747852
Yeah, without context Sima Yi looked like an older brother to Shi and Zhao in 7, before they added his MILF wife. And IIRC Sun Quan's character design in DW4 made him (designated as being 34) older than both Jian (32) and Ce (25).

>>534753460
There had been like 2 major fire attacks during the period.

>>534678372
replaced that one with this

Fucked up the first battle with Yuan Shao in Origins so badly that OC-kun had to say the "true warrior of the Three Kingdoms" line to himself because no one else was available

Decided to do a play through of DW8 again as it's been a while. It's fun and I do like it but I really don't think weapon swapping was that hot an idea and even with hypotheticals I feel like story mode is a bit limited.

>>534776979
I actually am a huge fan of weapon swap. I enjoy having lu bu and using his weapon than for fun switching to cao cao's weapon or Meng Huo's or whatever. I find it find and enjoy it. Though I do see some flaws it has and how it can break some things. Plus I really enjoy switching to Guo's Machine Gun weapon and going mg42 of sorts on the forces. I dont mind 1 weapon but I enjoy 2 and many officers could fight with more than just their in game weapon in history and were multi-talented.

>>534776979
It was nice to be able to five a character both their unique weapon and their old generic one. The element triangle kind of sucked though

I think I liked Strikeforce's approach to weapon swap.
>First weapon is always locked to the character's preferred weapon
>Second weapon can be of any other type
>However, different weapon types are more/less effective against different types of enemies
So you had to pick a second weapon that had some synergy with your first/default weapon, to ensure you had coverage across all enemy types. Or just pick Zhao Yun and steamroll everything with his aerial normal combo, because his spear was generally good against everything, and his stats were absolutely jacked compared to the test of the cast, even Lu Bu.

I just see the whole weapon swap as the first step to everyone losing their identity.

>>534784607
Yeah, when I played 8 I made a rule of only using a character's preferred weapon unless the moveset was absolutely shit.

>>534702962
They should commit to Sun Quan going fully senile
He's not an essential addition at all but I only want Zhang Zhao in so that we can see him and Sun Quan argue with each other

>>534792807
He never went senile and I hate terrorists supporters like the-archlich for inventing that shit. Sun Quan made horrible decisions from his early 20s all the way to the day he died. More horrible than most would ever make. It was a constant pattern.

>>534799925
I assumed he went senile because he lived considerably longer than usual for the era and his kingdom was crumbling around him, not because he was fine in his youth and then suddenly not fine anymore
His main talent was always just being able to assign talent to the right positions, that didn't happen so much later on but also there seems to have just been less talent than before in the latter years

Poor, Quan. He never should have been emperor. Jian and Ce dying young was too much.

A fucking Bench

>>534799925
Archlich didn't invent the idea, it's been floating about as a theory on the-scholars for as long as I can remember. Maybe it's not true regardless but it isn't some new thing.

>>534809861
Apparently it's a pun on his name that makes sense in Japanese. Remember other countries can have names that are puns but they don't translate into a pun in our language.

>>534809861
Funny it's far from being the worse weapon in DW8XL.
>nyr Sabatons

>>534735487
According to Sho, he had a friend who had a similar look at that age, so he thought it was still viable even for someone in their 30's

>>534815238
Ok, but Jian legitimately didn't look that old in 5, he was simply gray. In 8 and especially Origins he sure as fuck does look old. At the rate they're changing the characters by Dynasty Warriors 13 Cow Cow will be a Ranmaru Mori tier trap, Liu Bei will be a Hanbei, and the Suns will look like human versions of Donkey Kong (Sun Ce), Diddy Kong (Sun Quan) and Cranky Kong (Sun Jian)

>>534333831
Posting an update because this is getting interesting now, the sale hasn't changed but the player numbers just keep going up. I wonder if a big streamer in China has been playing Origins lately or something that's drawing such attention to it so suddenly at the end of a normal sale period. Really impressive how much longevity the game is showing regardless

>>534820349
The Gay Community found out about the game. They will commission hundreds of Ziluan artworks any second now. Aaaany second now...

>>534807865
Power makes you paranoid. And also one possibly underappreciated thing is that people grow apart and distrustful, especially when separated from one another for a long time.

This probably doesn't really "get across" to most people, what with TV shows and video games wanting to show all the major characters together in the same room, but in actuality most of these people were pretty far away from each other for most of their lives. Yeah, Sun Quan would grow up spending a lot of time with trusted advisors and military commanders and becoming personal friends with them, but then he'd have to post them in other cities and stuff, where they'd end up spending 20+ years only communicating by letter and sometimes never seeing each other again. It's easy to condemn Sun Quan for being a suspicious fuck for imprisoning his own sons and even killing one of them, but those sons were in an entirely different city and he hadn't seen them for nearly 20 years. Also more understandable that he'd get really attached to the one son he still had at his side and want to enthrone that kid as heir at the last minute even if the kid was only 7 years old.

>>534834454
What are insisting the factions aren't all one big happy family and that life in an era of warring kingdoms ISN'T all one constant backward barbecue

war is fun

i think Wang Yi is the hottest female in DW

>>534876984
MA CHAO!!

>>534879452
Was as honorable as Lu Bu.

>>534815238
Quan was also like a little boy when Jian was killed.

How did Sun Ce die?

>>534892310
he got vaxxed with a sharp arrow

>played xiangyang at the stage where Sun Jian got killed
>wanted to save him
>suddenly phantom Zhang Jiao rose up and kicked my ass with his huge ass health bar
absolute horseshit

Is there a save editor for Origins? I have 100% completion and a full set of +99 Rank 7 weapons, but three of them only have 8~9% extra Fortitude damage and it's bugging me.

>>534893629
Liu Biao comes prepared

I have no idea how this thing works

>>534905821
The most OP weapon in DW7/8. Get on a horse and spam normal attacks.

>>534906579
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgV7lpjdaQs

>>534893629
kek
I tried the demo and didn't like the babysitting aspect of the game. Is the rest of the game like that? I'm still contemplate on whether to buy it or not

>>534908324
Sishui is probably the second or third worst stage in the game when it comes to babysitting allies (outright worst is Runan). Generally if you defeat enemy officers efficiently, you don't have to babysit too much. At most you just jump on a horse, ride over and hi five whoever is struggling to heal them, then return to whatever you were doing before.

>>534893629
>>534899775
I can't recall, does the game ever confirm that phantom Zhang Jiao was part of Bailuan's bullshit, or conveniently unrelated?

>>534913869
It probably is with all the implications

>>534908324
I currently play on wayfarer difficulty and I just got the gist that you need to defeat officers as fast as possible, check your leader once in a while, and back defeating officers. it's easier than you think and the parry mechanic is also easy to get used to.

>>534892310
They got him. It's a real shame, I liked him too.

best girl

been enjoying Origins but do people actually care about muh Guardians of Peace lore? i found them to be very boring.

>>534928784
FOREIGN WOMAN?!

>>534931560
No, lol. They don't even put in anything for Ziluan and Bailuan fujos

>>534931560
Just got it and I couldn't fucking care less. I want to be an actual historical figure, not this twink. The overworld map would've been great for an ROTK game btw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3-aDg0S3hw
what do you think, who did you vote for?
who are the two unannounced characters for the 7th dlc?

Is NA: Sphere of Influence still the best NA? Also I only have ROM 13, what would you anons consider the best ROM? I've got the urge once more to toy with those sorts of games as it has been a long time since i last touched any of them. Therefor EDUCATE MY IGNORANT ASS

>>534941218
Ascension was my favorite and the first (and only one) i sunk any time into.

>>534941218
I saved this a while back. no idea how legit the anons opinions are though.

nobunigga

>>534931560
no

https://www.ign.com/videos/one-piece-pirate-warriors-4-official-character-pass-3-launch-trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xryErFme21w


I want to play the princess of not Egypt.

>>534931560
I think it's an interesting setup to explain Ziluan, but I didn't give a fuck beyond that.

Liu Bei's Huarong Path barely feels like a final stage compared to Cao Cao's version.

>>534983239
How?

>>534939387
Bonney is highly likely.

The other could either be: Kuma, Saturn, or Kizaru.

I do not care for one piece

>>535003615
So what?

>playing against lu bu on xiapi
You can turn down the difficulty right?

>>535009983
It's the force you to git gud mechanic

>>535010258
>failed to parry, just a simple block
>he unleashed unblockable hits
>or when he pulled that bullshit arrow battle art
Yeah i'm a pussy

>>535010430
>unblockable
Enemies glow orange or red when the attacks are unblockable, barring one boss at the end of Cao Cao's path. Dodge red attacks, use [Sp]ecial Arts for orange ones.

>or when he pulled that bullshit arrow battle art
Lu Bu always dodges backwards before he unleashes that attack. Do you have Power Shot? Power Shot hard counters that attack pretty hard.

>>535010430
Learn when to dodge and when to interrupt and try to get those down, then you can try to weave in parry to start getting a feel for it. Might takes you tens of tries, but you'll play so much better after. Beat him once and maybe look up those videos of Japanese no hitting him to see what it can be like

>>535010430
Also parrying is not necessary to beat him, he can even parry your parry sometimes. It's more of a I got gud thing, but it's cool as fuck when you clutch a good one while comboing. So as long as you can dodge everything instead of blocking, you're gonna be fine.

I feel like I evade enough and his long ass halberd still gets me

>>535010743
>>535011262
Yeah, personally I think parries aren't worth the risk versus dodging unless you are super confident in the timing. Lu Bu's dive attack is one of the easier attacks to parry because of its weird hitbox, but I just dodge everything else.
>he can even parry your parry sometimes
IIRC Lu Bu can only counter parry you when he has less than 40% health, and he only does it every other time.

>>535009983
Even if you end up turning the difficulty down, save your Musou Rage for the end of the fight. Without explaining why, trust me.

>>535012062
Yeah I'm fine repeating Xiapi the stage. It only takes 10-15 mins at most. Surely there'll be no more bullshit like this when I return back playing Wayfarer right?

>>535012304
Lu Bu is the toughest individual you'll fight in the game. Without spoiling, there's one other guy who's almost as tough, but if you're doing Xiapi then you're not going to fight that other dude and his particular brand of bullshit on your current story route.

The more I play the dw and rotk games the more I realize most of the rulers and officers are jackass. some of the shit they did was just lame. fuck all these supposed heroes there's very few in the lands. and some are just overhyped and overpuffed up. mr bei isnt as honorasable as he's presented fuck him as example.

taking out Jiang Jiao rebelling against a corrupt government takes on a different stance in 2025

The only relevant political message of Romance of the Three Kingdoms is that eunuchs are evil, that's just as true today. Don't trust men who cut their cocks off

>>535011779
IMO, against Lu Bu in particular you're better off maintaining some distance from him to give yourself more time to react to his attacks. Only close in when he's about to finish his attack and become vulnerable. There's no time limit in the Xiapi Lu Bu fight beyond your own mortality, so you can afford to take your time. You pretty much need to treat it as turn based fight until you git really gud at fighting him.

>>535012552
Just spoil me man, what's the bullshit in wu route?

Noooo I got Qui Liju killed when I didnt notice he was injured and he got killed in battle. Had I saw it I would have sent him home to rest. Now I am playing as him in the heroes all there in time scenario. onward to glory

>>535019105
Gan Ning at Xiakou. When you get him down to 60% health, he'll spam back to back Musou Rages until you defeat him. Your only opportunity to damage him is to break his Fortitude before he fires off his Musou finisher, then unleash an assault on him. If you haven't unlocked a high cost Battle Art to quickly deplete Fortitude, then your won't be able to pass the DPS checks quickly enough.

>>535019105
To save Sun Ce, you have to enter 1v5 (or maybe 4, I don't remember) combat against Bailuan and maxed-out bravery phantoms

>>535019105
>>535019564
That being said, he doesn't have the raw strength and durability of Lu Bu, so if you CAN deplete his Fortitude quickly enough, he'll go down pretty fast. He's just a massive pain in the ass if you're not prepared for his specific bullshit. Lu Bu at Xiapi spams Musou Rage too, but only for his last 5% health, so you only need to break his Fortitude once to win the fight.

Are there any FUNNY and cringe retarded mods? I just feel like visual vomit and terribly clashing content within my musou game (any of them).

I'm surprised how many characters are showing up in Origins. I didn't look up who made the roster ahead of time, but I wasn't expecting to see guys like Xun You or Li Dian. I just assumed it would be way more cut down.

>>535022378
Other than Cao Ren, pretty much all the roster cuts are people who don't really do anything until Chibi. And Cao Ren's sole pre Chibi moment is having his Eight Gates formation get dunked on by Xu Shu.

yes, changing it to historian did make it way easier, thanks for people dodging is preferable over trying to parry his attack

>>535026763
Parries are good for stopping enemy attacks early so you can begin your counter attack, but the risk is too high if you mess up the timing. It doesn't help that many enemies abuse their super armour and hold attacks for a really long time to trick you into dodging/parrying too early. But with Lu Bu dead, you won't have to fight him (or anyone with his moveset) ever again until NG+, at which point you can bullshit him back with your own halberd.

i swear the difficulty is suddenly getting ramped up after this xiapi stage, the first one where guan yu and ziluan getting surrounded was okay but i lost like 6 times in battle of baima and yanjin because cao cao is an absolute moron and fucking wen chou kept rallying his forces.
anyway picrel lol lmao

>>535033290
You're going to hate the first battle of chapter 5.

>>535033353
lol just tried it, that's nasty as fuck
fucking liu bei

>>535036746
ikr
It would be a straight forward stage if your allies didn't decide to constantly split off and make your job harder. Things will at least turn around soon when you hire some strategists to tard wrangle them.

LIVE

>>535049771
What live?

>>535037229
What ?

China's 3 Kingdom what are some good examples of good military leaders who went up against each other multiple times and it didn't always end up on the same side victory?'

>>535037229
>It would be a straight forward stage if your allies didn't decide to constantly split off and make your job harder

Outside of stages with powered up "bosses" like Lu Bu, on every other stage the challenge is 100% from your allies being useless on purpose as OF think that's good game design for some reason.

>>535071401
It's particularly egregious in Runan, as before the battle Liu Bei says:
>Wanderer, you have a good eye for reading the tide of battle, we'll all follow you.
But then they get distracted and wander off in different directions about two minutes in. I'm starting to think that Guo Jia and Xun Yu started jangling keys to get their attention. At least in other stages I'm just a nobody helping out, so it makes sense they everyone goes off to do whatever.

>>534989401
Probably because you have the upper hand and can kill Cao Cao very fast at the end even on a first playthrough compared to the Wei version where Liu Bei has the strongest army in the game for his large force

What are the chances Koei takes another look at Samurai Warriors and start figuring out on how to bring its next iteration up to par with DW:Origin?

>>535094510
I'd like that myself, at least considering it's Japan and the time period, everyone wanting to fuck the 10/10 looking boy and waxing poetics about it would be perfectly historically accurate. It could be cool, but when would it start?

>>535094510
It'll happen eventually I'm sure. I have a feeling it'll do a reverse Origins and cover Sekigahara instead of covering the early parts of the era, that neatly gives the player two sides they can choose. Maybe guest starring Wirriam from Nioh too.

Hypothetical Warriors video game series Rome Warriors
Let's think of some impossible battles and who's to be included in them and who probably should have a unique design but not be playable in the first game.
Let's have the same standard for females Dynasty and Samurai Warriors

Playable characters
Julius Caesar
Hadrian
Trajan
Labienus
Cleopatra
Game 2
Original Roman Emperor. Technically his great-uncle's name.

>>535101205
Set it during a period stretching at absolute maximum from the First Mithridatic War to Actium. Include dramatic elements from the Pharsalia to give it some of that RotK based-on-a-novel feel.
Also please don't bring this up so often.

>>535101205
Do the Punic wars. I want Hannibal and Elephant and Scipio Africanus

>>535105595
The First Punic War p1 - OverSimplified

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRmOWcWdQAo&t=947s

The First Punic War p2 - OverSimplified

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRSGxw2AQnk&t=701s

The Second Punic War - OverSimplified (Part 1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsbcN9-jU1Y
The Second Punic War - OverSimplified (Part 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-nWA0WeF98

>>535106327
Put me in couch( I was just watching it less than a week ago I couldn't resist)


The Second Punic War - OverSimplified (Part 3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BVJzaXv3rk

>>535106631
>>535106327
The three kingdoms era one was nice. Hoping they do a sengoku.

you know for all their hype the Han kind of went to shit really fast

>>535094510
it'll be good only if they want to make alternative scenarios for multiple sides like Empires-style but i'm pretty sure they won't do that. some nameless ronin decides to enter a service to some minor warlord as it tries to conquer whole japan, that's a good premise.

>Origins Zhenji's a boring Disney princess
laaaame

>>535121253
I mean ~400 years of rule with an interim pause of a decade and a half is pretty good

what's your favorite Origins weapon and why is it chakram?

>>535155085
Po Dao. Playing around charges feels good and heavy

lol Runan is actually easy as hell, at first I just took the right path where I immediately met like 4 generals in the same base, i think it's really a bait for people thinking it's the faster way to finish the stage so it punishes the player. then for this I just went to the left at first so when liu bei's generals went separate way, they're easier to reach.

holy moly, the bosses are really tank.

>>535162124
That's exactly what happened to me. Got destroyed (or rather Liu Bei did) when I tried the short route, but the battle was more manageable going west at the beginning. But I'm still annoyed about them splitting up to begin with.

>>535101205
You could do a Crisis of the Third Century setting with the Gallic Empire, the Palmyran Empire, Assirians and the GOAT-Imperator Aurelian

>>535155085
Either chakram or guandao. Lightfoot on the guandao feels so good

>>535155085
Twin pikes, only issue is their windup time isn't great on UW

>>535101205
>>535105595
>>535105595
>>535106327
Go on.

>>535206418
Entrusted Hope.

>>535101205
Fuck Rome

>Cao Cao in Origins keeps saying "the die is cast"
It's like pottery

>>535244184
I know the Shu bias is strong but I really wish they'd stop trying to write Cao Cao like Doctor Doom

>>535235297
Please enjoy the three-mission Vercingetorix what-if scenario

>>535244627
I've come to the conclusion the books and the modern game makers are all dick hard over the fake heroism of shu and the fake hero that is liu bei. that's one thing in the games I cant stand is this constant sucking the cock of shu and lui bei as if he's some saintly god of goodness and he's not. he's a piece of shit and did just as many shit things as others he claimed were evil. alot of these heroes were assholes. look into gan ning and what he did to that kid with arrows. why they present him as a hero is beyond me but alot of modern people in dev/gaming think bad people are heroes so not surprised.

>>535244627
Nobunaga had it way worse in SW4 to be fair, Cao Cao is always a lesser Nobunaga in Koei's eyes

>>535247310
Reading about all the bullshit with Gan Ning and Ling Tong gave me a newfound appreciation for Lu Meng.

>>535247310
he was the only 'rags to riches' person between 3 of them so it's easy to make a 'good' narrative for him

>>535101205
No Caligula, no buy.
But have a Japanese design them visually. It'd be fresh.

>>535257786
>newfound appreciation for Lu Meng
For what? Suan Quan wants him to hit the local library?

>>535269154
>But have a Japanese design them visually. It'd be fresh.
Getting a Japanesey take on western history is the whole appeal. You can just play Total War if you want the local flavor. I'd want a whole cast that looks like the Greek gods from Orochi.

>>535271003
Remember when Andrew Jackson was in Samurai Showdown.

>>535247310
Liu Bei was a warlord and did some warlord things, but i have no idea how you can say he was 'just as evil' as the others when he committed no massacres and treated his people well.

Is it so difficult for people to acknowledge that by all historical accounts he was a good person?

>>535247310
A lot of material on the era is still not translated into English, keep that in mind. We don't have the full picture on why some figures are interpreted the way they are

DW9 Ma Dai is one of the few clone movesets that I don't mind, mainly cause his old paintbrush weapon looked stupid and barely made any sense for his character. If he comes back in Origins, I expect he's going to keep the twin axes, though if they want to differentiate him, maybe he could be given Pang De old DW5 twin ji

>>535293156
Did they ever give Dian Wei the twin axes?

SW4, SW4-II or SW4 DX?

>>535296003
SW4 DX is just SW4 with all the DLC included I think?
SW4-II is barely a game by itself, don't play it first, also only play it if you really like SW4 and want more, also do not pay full price for it.
There's Spirit of Sanada too which is a spinoff you can play sometime after SW4 if you want

>>535296003
SW4 DX

>>535297242
>>535301132
All right, thanks.

Alright that's a long enough break, back to work

>>535247310
>gan ning and what he did to that kid with arrow
That wasn't a child, there is no proof it was a child, the old translation was lazy. Low ranking servant is what it actually says. It could just as well be an adult of any age as it could be a child. What he did is no worse than most others. In fact his crimes pale in comparison to someone like Sima Yi who systematically targeted people under a specific age for mass execution to be made into a corpse tower.

>>533423086
>It's going to take until 2026 for Enel to get in
God damnit...

>>535269212
NTA but probably for preventing them from going to war with each other. Shows some genuine political skill.

As gamers who only deal with very abstract depictions of warfare, we probably forget that military men are dangerous people with their own desires and agendas and can rebel against you at any time for any dumbass reason, not mindless NPCs that will obey whatever order you give them. We can rightly criticize guys like Cao Cao and Sun Quan for being paranoid fucks who constantly suspected and turned against good and loyal men, but there's a reason they became paranoid fucks. Hell, Cao Cao actually was betrayed by a close friend he trusted too much at one point.

>>535320872
Those people were traitors. Mass executing them was the righteous thing to do, especially because it was a benevolent and righteous man like Emperor Xuan doing it.

>>535320872
Sima Yi was merely following the precedent set in Xu province by killing random people

>>535333904
Not random people, traitors. The people in Xiapi supported a rebel Emperor, so they should have been killed, just not by an evil man like Cao Cao. It would have been better if a truly loyal servant of Han had been the one doing it instead.

>6 weeks until tokyo game show

We're certain to see something about the DLC or remaster aren't we? I guess we will get a release date for at least one of them.

>>535332294
And the "child" wronged Gan Ning. He was not prosecuted. The story is recorded to show Lv Meng's upset and his benevolence for forgiving Gan Ning, as well as being filial to his mother's wish.

>>535293156
I don't really mind the goofy weapons but it really stands out when the games started to get lot more serious with their story telling. DW8 is downright maudlin. Everyone will be sobbing over another of my generals deaths and then someone comes out with a paintbrush or a giant pizza cutter

>>535351494
>guo huai dying in the arms of sima shi
>xiahou ba flying across the screen riding his rocket spear

>>535351494
>>535351583
dw8:xl / dw8:empires and its weapons are silly. I spend alot of time goofing off in dw8:empires with guan yu and using zuo ci's cards. 4+ compatibilty with guan yu so I turned him into the god of magic and go around fucking everyone up. another goofy one is lu bu is 4+ compatible with guo huai's gun weapon so lu bu just decimates anything he faces with that thing. there's some goofy weapons and some people have compatibility with weapons that change them drastically in some ways. I like the goofy stuff and want more things like it but optional settings to play with for it.

Fuck, randomly checked and it looks like a lot of Youtube channels hosting TK 2010 all got nuked sometime this year

>>535356719
The discord sends its regards.
https://nyaa.si/view/914676

>>535357043
The Han is falling, but it has not fallen

I don't mind the bond events but man are there a lot of them, give me a chance to play the game a little

>>535372065
If you don't care about doing as much as you can in one run, most of the bond events only give you old coins. In terms of rewards the only ones worth maxing out are the playable companions, and even then the Battle Arts you get are all over in the place in terms of usefulness.

>>535372394
I want to do them for their own sake, not because of rewards, but it really does put the brakes on the game a bit. I guess I'll be missing some no matter what I do once I hit the hard faction branch point, but still.

>>535373081
I guess you can divert to a skirmish or mission in between story/bond events. The plot doesn't massively advance until you do major battles. Chapter 2 can be a slog because they rush through Diao Chan's and Dong Zhuo's bond events, in addition to the sporadic events for the various main faction dudes.

>>535374645
I didn't mind chapter 2 so much. It was pretty funny getting the max bond achievement from Dong Zhuo. By chapter 3 it's getting to be a little much with all the characters to fill out the factions including the 7 billion Wei strategists all wanting a date with OC-kun.

>>535375514
Contrary to what the game tells you, it's better to just laser faction on one faction as soon as you start Chapter 3. Outside of bond events, the game won't remember your partial progress with the other factions when you start NG+ and you'll need to start Chapter 3 from the very beginning when you pick another route.

>>535375514
>>535377531
Actually, just thought of two exceptions:
>Do the first two or three missions for the Sun family, as you do get a checkpoint there
>If you plan to join Cao Cao, do the first battle with Liu Bei (Battle of Jieqiao) anyway, as I think that's required to trigger some of the bond events for Yuan Shao and Zhang He

>>535351583
>guo huai dying in the arms of sima shi
I could never take that seriously after learning the historical Guo Huai might have joined with Guanqiu Jian and Wen Qin had he not suddenly died of illness right before Guanqiu Jian and Wen Qin set out.

>>535377531
>>535380656
Good to know, but I'll probably try and do as much as possible now. I can't lock myself out of a side by doing too many missions for the others before the decision point, can I?

>>535398570
It will tell you when you come to a battle that locks one side out

>been on a rotk13 kick the last day
>finally save after crushing most of the map in the lower region in 195.
>load up dw7:de
>running the first stage in conquest mode with lu bu repeatedly to grind a bit and get stronger.
>oddly enjoy the simple quick first 2 stages in tier 1.
>rotating Zhu Rong into this also and switching out to her on occasion to grind her a bit.
>comfy midnight 30 night.

>>533421810 (OP)
This isn't an East Asian musou.

>>535400402
Dats Right!

>Zhang He's introductory letter is titled "The Aesthetics of an Ambush"
I see

So in the mission where Sun Jian dies, I ran over to his location and encountered the phantom Zhang Jiao, got a cutscene about that, then fought him for a whole two seconds before the cutscene where Sun Jian gets bouldered happened. Did I just fuck up the timing? Did I miss anything important? Was the phantom just there to stop OC-kun from changing history and I was too slow for it to matter?

>>535407181
Be faster. There's a timer to beat the phantom before he's stoned

>playing changban on liu bei's side
>bailuan went from 'cao cao is bad' to 'liu bei is also bad because people who followed his escape unfortunately died during the chase'
literally what the fuck is his problem

>>535408572
shu path's bad writing carrying over to other characters.

>>535408572
>>535409227
>Bailuan hates the Han
>Bailuan hates Cao Cao because Cao Cao works for the emperor (despite Cao Cao using the emperor as a figurehead to legitimise his takeover of the land)
>Bailuan likes Liu Bei (when Liu Bei is a distant member of the imperial clan and would later bill his kingdom as a continuation of the Han)
Bailuan makes more sense on the Wu path where he just sticks up for the non-Han people, and gets properly called out by Sun Jian and Sun Quan to an extent.

>>535398570
Yeah, like >>535399594 said, the game will give you plenty of warning if you're at risk of locking yourself out of a faction by joining one side of a particular battle, or even advancing the plot too far when you haven't done enough for the other factions. In theory you can do all battles for both Cao Cao and the Sun family in Chapter 3, but you'll need to redo battles for the faction you don't pick on your next playthrough because the checkpoint system won't track your progress that late into the chapter.

almost reaching the final of shu's story, i think the babysitting part isn't that bad so far but i'm still playing wayfarer

>>535412429
Runan is the worst of it.
Xinye and Bowangpo actually go pretty smoothly as long as you follow the plan.
The key to Changban is helping both Zhang Fei and Zhao Yun at the beginning, then whichever one is not your companion will carry the rest of Liu Bei's Forces.
Chibi is not really babysitting, and more hauling ass to stem losses from Cao Cao's forces steamrolling your allies.
Huarong Path is less of a battle and more of a victory lap for Liu Bei.

>>535408572
Bailuan problem is that the game has to make up reasons for why he opposes you in each of the three routes.

>Xu Shu's only role in Battle of Xinye is telling you to 'just get in the right gate la'
>still has to use the sacred eye yourself

>>535386567
You took it seriously before that?

>>535402215
What is that?

>>535412429
The only stage i ever had trouble keeping allies alive in was Chibi, you can finish most stages in this game before allies have a chance to die, and even if they get close, it's way too easy to horse over and heal/kill whoever they're fighting.

>>535418624
yeah just finished Chi Bi, a bit of carnage where I kinda had to restart once because Liu Bei immediately died after being gangbanged by Zhang He, Zhang Liao, and 1 more that i forgot the name, i thought it's silly that you had zhuge liang on the altar, thinking he'd be the one lighting the signal after noticing the change of winds, but then he told you to light it yourself so you had to ride your horse all the way from your base to the altar and that's pretty far.

>>535420164
Anon, you can light the fire from any location. Use the Eyes of the Sacred Bird to check the wind, then if it has changed you can press X (on PS controller) to light the signal.
Apparently defeating Huang Gai while he is an enemy can make the wind shift faster, but he's triple courage so good luck with that.

>>535420320
for some reason my X option was still dim, well anyway i finished the stage and only Huarong left. still needs to finish 1 more mission though

having this dude as part of the older Liu Bei gang feels so wrong, he shouldn't be there...

>>535420865
I never played DW9 or Warriors All Stars so I don't have a reference point for him, but Zhou Cang feels like he was written before the memo went around about taking the characters more seriously. Characters like Xu Zhu and Dong Zhuo, and especially Zhang Jiao, aren't caricatures anymore, but Zhou Cang feels really close to being one.

>>535420320
Why did I rode there every time? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>535421396
Now you know.

>>535407181
I knew when I played it that something was probably supposed to happen if you beat the phantom quickly, but the whole premise was so ridiculously stupid I didn't bother going back to do it. The ghost of Zhang Jiao, lmao

Current top 5 musous for me.
>1. Fire Emblem Warriors
>2. Hyrule Warriors (the OG ones)
>3. Samurai Warriors 5
>4. Samurai Warriors Chronicles 3
>5. One Piece Pirate Warriors 3

>>535437736
Are you new to the franchise?