Age of Calamity.is CANONICAL EVENTS Edition
>Origins reveal trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU48saHVmh4
>Origins gameplay features
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9DxhZj4Ej8
>Origins castle battle: Subjucation of Yaun Shu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bIk8GpUfPA
Dynasty Warriors: Origins - Official Officer Bonds Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otQPxfqOLPo
Pastebin for newcomers: https://pastebin.com/Gq3pxGqc
Recommended Reading: https://pastebin.com/15wPQWNS
>New to the Musou-verse?
The musou genre is expansive so this is a quick terms rundown, but see the newcomer pastebin for more information.
>Dynasty Warriors - the original, mainline series based on the Romance of the Three Kingdoms novel
>XL / Xtreme Legends - essentially expansions for DW games
>Empires - a light strategy DW spin-off, you conquer & manage territory instead of following a story
>Samurai Warriors - DW, but based on Japan's history
>Warriors Orochi - Crossover between DW & SW
>Romance of the Three Kingdoms - an epic novel, telling a romanticized version of historical events
>There's multiple other IP spin-offs with Musou gameplay, including One Piece and Zelda.
YouTube channels covering the 3 kingdoms real history and the Dynasty Warriors / Musou games.
https://www.youtube.com/@SeriousTrivia
https://www.youtube.com/@Klogalous
https://www.youtube.com/@TheNightowlGaming
https://www.youtube.com/@KoeiKollection
https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisGildart/playlists
https://www.youtube.com/@LightyTheNube/videos
>FRIENDS:
https://boards.4channel.org/vg/catalog#s=dqg%2F
>>533421810 (OP)Hyrule Warriors: Age of Imprisonment â Nintendo Direct: Partner Showcase 7.31.2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HYvrJKLQ38
Abyss update tomorrow, with tactic and mission rebalances. I'm looking forward to it, more than to another BOTW Warriors. I'd like another FE Warriors instead, please.
>>533423086Was this announced a year ago lol
>>533423378How mad were you to not see him in TOTK
>>533421810 (OP)Are we going to have lots of link in this game then we had in the Zelda title game that came out last?
>>533432970>>533421810 (OP)Are we going to have less of link in this game then we had in the Zelda title game that came out last?
I liked the Arslan game. I wish they'd make another one that goes further with the manga material.
>>533443478 I heard his wife was a pretty respected by his people should she be playable at some point?
>>533445210I mean a lot of the other lords got their wives, so there are worse people you could ad. What weapon would she get?
>>533445383 Honestly I know nothing about what kind of weapons people had historically maybe they'll go something along the lines of what her daughter uses I mean I think all the playable men in the family uses different types of swords so a similar weapon type to her daughter probably.
>>533446206given some of the weapons character use I wouldn't worry about historical accuracy so much. Though you could give her some variation of SSX's moves. Perhaps a larger single hoop. That would be a nice way to connect the two. Maybe adjust and fine tune Lian Shi's old crossbow.
Who do we believe was historical Cao Cao right hand man because I've heard a few people be called by a number of people I think no more about the 3 kingdoms than me,1.Xun Yu 2.Xiahou Dun .3 Xu Zhu (Total War General) 4. Guo Jia .And Cao Ren but mainly for military you do this while I'm busy reasons for the last one.
>>533424945 Actually It was announced in February this year .
>>533455635 Is that some kind of art mistake or did the guy just not know his headband was on his head for some reason?
I hate sequel musous
Crossover musous only
>>533457251it was the latter
>>533462109The main enjoyment I get out of musou spinoffs is being able to play as characters I like in an action game. Limiting the cast so you can make it a halfassed "canon" sequel is lame
I like Warriors Orochi 3 but having to start from scratch I forgot how long it really took to unlock everyone
>>533436974Probably a comparable amount, barring the possibility of non-storymode appearances.
It's supposed to be canonical, and Link didn't go to the past with Zelda.
MAYBE it'll feature the Zonai Hero.
>>533472272It's dead, jim
The three kingdoms era is certainly interesting and full of grand battles and figures, but it's also really funny how it ended on a big anti climax with some 4th kingdom.
>>533478708'All the cool characters kill each other and the fate of the land for the next 500 years is decided by a battle between Some Guy and Literally Who' is a common theme of history
>>533422953Updates out, here are the changes
>>533481674Is Abyss fun? I'm a bit on the fence about it. It seems like a pretty cheap filler game. Maybe not as much as Godseekers but also maybe...
>>533481674Worth noting is that if the translation of their Nip account's tweets is correct, this is not all the rebalance changes they want to make, it's a start and more will come.
>>533485880I think it's amazing and it's probably my favourite Warriors title right now. It's just fun to play, and it constantly gets updates. Just know the costume DLCs are a ripoff and only buy them or the higher tier version if you feel like supporting the devs for the updates, they're overpriced and often not even good
>>533481674Where is Ma Dai? WHERE IS HE??
>>533489232First questions first, where is Lu Kang?
>>533468831 The funny thing is this is propaganda to make him look better by making him footballing his own son.
>>533506113Lu Lingqi, daughter of Lu Bu and my wife.
>>533506604Nice of you to let Lu Bu put a baby in your wife
>>533507808 No she Lu Budaughter Lu Budidn't put a baby in Lu Buown daughter .
Bronze Bird is crazy karma farming value with the update, you can get 80k with it alone on T5 (assuming the hero got karma boost). It's like 6k karma (or 6k tears) if the mission's reward is karma, and it's a pretty decent chance.
>>533512303You know what they say? All Lu Bus Lu Bu Lu Bu.
>>533506604Why is she in a future sci-fi outfit?
>>533550506still as dead as ever
Yu Jin is just a big softie underneath.
I was going through my old PS2 shit. Kessen 2 was a weird game.
They have a free trial of DWO on xbox this weekend so I said fuck it I'm bored and I'm gonna try to get all of the achievements (I've already done this once). I'm currently about to finish wei true and that is the only ending I've done. Do you think there is any chance I make it? The trial ends in 64 hours (monday 10est I'm pretty sure). I keep going through it and I'm just like oh yeah you have to do all of this... then all of this... Part of me thinks I can get it done in 40 hours total (this is about the max time I expect to be able to put into the trial, i'll no life harder if it looks like I can accomplish it) but i don't have much confidence I will be able to complete this task.
>>533423086around 8 days bros, hang in there.
Pirate Warriors 5 should've been announced already,
but since this is the closest we'll get until Age of Imprisonment is announced,
we'll just have to cope.
I still can't believe and cannot get over origins having one character.
>>533422028They made a story trailer for a musou game?
So it's not just a bonus spinoff game, it's a prequel to TotK but musou in genre.
I'm confused. Is this good or bad? Good for musou nuts.
>>533573119>So it's not just a bonus spinoff game, it's a prequel to TotK but musou in genre.Age of Calamity was already like that, a "canon" prequel to BotW (technically in a separate timeline because of time travel bullshit).
I've said my piece already but I far prefer the original Hyrule Warriors for having characters from across the whole series instead of just the new hotness. It's also just a better game, especially on Switch where it runs better and AoC runs like shit.
the only spinoff I want to see is another Gundam
I've been waiting for Dragon Quest Heroes 3 for a century. I want to play as Italian Zhenji in an action game, Horii-sama
There's going to be a DW segment with Tomohiko Sho at tomorrow ChinaJoy event, so something might get announced
https://twitter.com/s_sangokumusou/status/1948986647879553030
>>533589074Origins XL or Empires?
>>533594929>Origins Empires>Ziluan and Bailuan will always join other factions to cockblock your progress and force a 'three kingdoms' endgame
>>533603580Why has that not been a thing yet?
I'm surprised Toei never made a Water Margin warriors,
>>533589074He's said they'll talk about the future of the series so if anything it'll be a expansion, maybe a remaster since he was asking about that a while back on twitter.
>>533594929Didn't he say empires would have to come after origins 2?
>>533614123>origins 2I hope not. I didn't especially have anything against Origins. After 9 tanked it was smart to try something like this but I really hope the next game uses the new platform and gives us back our officers.
Is age of calamity still the best selling warriors game?
>>533617291Probably, DW has never had an entry hit 3 million as far as I know and OPPW are the only other musou spinoffs that are close to as popular as Zelda
>>533618010Really annoys me too. These same people will be the ones calling it lame but the second you make it about Link or some shit fire emblem slut it's OMG BEST SERIES EVAR!
>>533589074>There's going to be a DW segment with Tomohiko Sho at tomorrow ChinaJoy event, so something might get announcedLike what?
New game announced
Sex Warriors: XL (Penis Size)
Have sex with every officer and OC
All Musou attacks make you cum
Unlockable mode: no sex gauntlet (how long can you not have sex)
Only playable characters: Yoshimoto Imagawa, Huang Gai
>>533589074 When you say tomorrow do you mean Saturday or Sunday because of when you're posting this?
>>533648213the stream is happening in about 12 hours from now
>>533660592Our lord expects us to hold this position for another 10 hours without reinforcements?
>>533472656>MAYBE it'll feature the Zonai Hero.god i hope not, that design is still giving me nightmares
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>>533691778 So what exactly is different from a Warriors tactics game than a non-tactics game
>>533699129Tactics are grid based strategy rpgs
>>533712859Nah this is before AI art was a thing.
>>533712859Not every piece of crap art is AI
>>533722675DW segment is in another hour or so
KT segment on now, first is Nioh 3
https://live.bilibili.com/21017005
>>533738247Tomohiko Sho on stage now
If I'm getting the info right, Orgins DLC and remasters of the older titles were announced
25th anniversary trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLJhzv24DL0
>>533742568En version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ugQCzHG5tA
>>533742568Guessing the game getting a remaster will be 5 since it won shos twitter poll a bit ago
>>533742878>>533742568>25 yearsThat can't be right.
>>533742403>>533742568It's labeled as "major DLC" for Origins
>>533744490I wonder if they plan on bringing in some more of the major officers as playable.
>>533744707Weapon poll had the fan, and curved sword win so i expect Zhuge and Zhou Tai, maybe one more for Wei.
Ifthe dlc features a Lu Bu route like i would expect i wonder if they'll throw in Linqi?
>>533745423>LinqiHopefully, the crosspike would be cool
hello yes folks i'll be rejoining you soon as soon as I rev up my Origins
>>533622791Worst is that Age of Calamity is the worst case of Hallway simulator I've seen in a musou. The side content is boring and repetitive, and it mistakes "do something with a tiny time limit" for actual difficulty. I never finished AoC, and I put a combined 900 hours into Hyrule Warriors and all its ports.
Full list of changes Nioh 3 is going to make from the first demo
https://teamninja-studio.com/nioh3/us/feedback.html
>>533742568>even in their curated trailer footage 9 still runs like shit
>>533754836>9 struggles with about a hundred people onscreen>Origins casually has nearly a thousand with no issuesNight and day difference.
>>533750631I know exactly what this is referring to
>>533756268I mean it was a whole console gen afterwards, but that said the ps4 wasn't actually a toaster in it's time.
>>533742878>>533743495 What are the chances when they say we master in they mean they're going to do it to multiple games in a collection figure or one of those things like they did with Mega Man different franchises from Capcom where bunch of older games are remastered into one new thing with new content?
>>533759260I wouldn't bet on it but if they announce a series of collections I'd be on that like Zhang Fei on someone else's wife.
currently playing Origins, man i'm having too much fun with skirmishes, it kinda helps me timing the parry/block before going into the big battle
>>533678792Could be worse
Could be the Korok again
Orochi 4 and the ultimate upgrade was on sale for playstation so I went and grabbed it. I only just started but it seems decent.I do worry magic is going to be busted to fuck though and while I do like how the samurai 4 engine looked they really phoned in the presentation. No more base hub no more maps and shops. I'll probably enjoy it but I wouldn't have bought it at full price.
>>533765305The presentation is what annoyed me too. 3 had many mocapped in-engine cutscenes while 4 has 0. This resulted any costumes you bought even more worthless since they won't show up in any cutscene because they're pre-rendered.
>>533766664That's bad too, but it just feels a bit too menu focused. 3 had a huge map were you could do things out of order, you could get snippets of dialogue from people in your base even watching the base evolve over time was something. It's not like 3 was hugely indepth about that but just having my main three stand shoulder to shoulder as I futz about menus just doesn't strike as immersive.
>>5337666644 feels like they were desperate to get it out ASAP after 9 torched the brands reputation
aye would it be worth it for a blud to get sw5 dlc or is it ass
>>533766664Hyrule Warriors Definitive Edition bugged me for the same reason. It's an HD port of the 3DS version first and foremost, and for the 3DS to save on resources they rendered a lot of cutscenes from in-engine to pre-rendered. But they never undid that for Switch, so the only game you can wear your costumes into cutscenes is the Wii U version.
I didn't realize we had a thread up for multiple days now. I only went to /vg/ because I assumed someone would open up a thread in response to the 25th anniversary video, but I guess the thread has been up a few days prior to that.
Anyway, while I'm glad DWO is getting a "major DLC", it really sucks that it's probably so early in development that they were only able to give us an announcement that a major DLC was underway.
And, strikingly, the fact that it's just a "major DLC" and not an "Xtreme Legends" or "expansion game" means that it's not going to be as big as it should be, given that the fans overwhelmingly want an Xtreme Legends style expansion that gives us fully playable officer characters that we can play without having them as support characters to Ziluan.
I really don't understand why Koei Tecmo isn't striking while the iron is hot. They should have announced this DLC like 3-4 months ago. The game came out in January. It sold a million copies after a few months. They should have announced the DLC back then.
Once again, the biggest impediment to Omega Force is Koei Tecmo being a stingy publisher that probably pays its subsidiaries peanuts.
>>533783721'Major DLC' to me just seems like a XL equivalent
In Abyss, why is Ranmaru Mori the only character to only get a boost after summoning a single other hero unit, namely Oda Nobunaga? Even waifus whose only achievement was being married to X chieftain, like Diao Chan, get boosts from the entire faction, not only a single unit. What, was he closer to Nobunaga than Lady No, his wife? Why doesn't he get a Mori emblem anyway? It's useless, but he has only 2, he could get 1 more.
>>533752941A DW9 remastered sounds like a truly horrible and retarded idea.
Which means it's definitively something that KT would do.
>>533742568>>533742878 Guy who made the general legitimate question at most what are we getting at least what are we getting and what most likely are we getting with these two trailers?
>>533789015His life is defined by how much his beautiful pink anus was completely molded into the shape of Nobunaga's dick from a lifetime of being the man's personal onahole. And I don't blame Nobunaga. When you have a little boywife as beautiful as Ranmaru, you'd take every opportunity you can to mate with him.
>haven't played WO3U since it's release
>start playing on PC
>"You got Kaguya's Strategy Card!"
...what the fuck is a strategy card?
Origins DLC announcement gave the game a little boost on Steam, between that and the 20-25% off sales it keeps getting, its concurrent player numbers have been almost completely flat the whole summer rather than continuing a steady drop
>>533799215I can't brin myself to play anything after DW9 and SW5. What am I missing out on?
>>533798390It's for Duel Mode.
>>533798390They're stuff for the game's shitty duel mode. Unless you like deckbuilder shit, there's no real reason to engage with that mode. It's not like gauntlet mode, which is actually fun and has lots of exclusive equipment for you to unlock.
>>533800274musou that looks and runs well and the enemies actually fight back
You know, Capcom could have made the Sengoku Basara fanbase happy with a PS5 patch that enhances Sengoku Basara 4 Sumeragi's performance.
Because right now, the story scenes and the pre-mission dialogue sequences in the game still run at 30fps. On RPCS3, you can unlock the framerate so that these things run at 60fps, but on consoles, that's not doable.
Even if you're playing on PS5, these things still run at only 30fps. A framerate unlock patch could easily have the game running at 60fps for all things in it. Hell, I'm sure even a console as trash as the PS5 can get the game to run at 120fps, if only Capcom cared enough to update the game to have it run that well.
But nope.
The franchise turned 20 years old just 2 weeks ago, and what did Capcom do for it? Worse than nothing. It announced a bunch of cafe merchandise collab bullshit. So basically Capcom still remembers that Sengoku Basara exists, but it can't be bothered to give its real fans even breadcrumbs.
>>533803839we do not care
>>533804120basarafags are like ff7 shills who keep desparately trying to stay relevant and immisce themselves in every conversation, even when their games keep flopping and being ass
>>533802754You aren't kidding. I'm getting hit so much I'm kinda annoyed. I just died in the demo, you definitely can't play this like previous games, not out the gate at least. I think I'll wait to see what the DLC offers before I buy, but I'm genuninely surprised by what's in the game mechanically. My only real gripe is the damn FOV, which musou games have always had a problem with.
A real WO3U successor that plays like Origins would absolutely fuck beyond belief.
>>533691778>peak cao cao and liu bei>sun ce is some weird generic with a spear???
>>533423086If they were based...
>>533806309>hey, why exactly do they call him the Little Conqueror?>well he's done very little to conquer my attention!
>>533423086>game came out in March of 2020>it's still getting DLC in late 2025I don't understand this DLC release schedule.
Why dripfeed the DLC over the course of like 5 years instead of dumping them all on year one and then moving onto a sequel or a different IP for a Warriors game?
Is this system actually profitable?
>>533808050One party went to the other and said "Hey soooo, more characters?"
PW4 DLC was done ages ago. What we're getting now wasn't planned originally. Bamco would've opted for PW5 if they thought it was the better course of action. Personally, I suspect that KT asked Bamco if they could do more and this is what Bamco allowed.
>>533808050anime games/bamco in general are just doing that if they still sell well i guess. Both xenoverse(multiplayer game) and db kakarot(single player story based game) are still getting DLC and xenoverse 2 is like 9 years old and kakarot is 5 years.
Wan piss probably also still sells well enough to keep getting dlc.
>origins DLC releases
>still no free mode menu
I can feel it. Still happy, I assume it'll add some hypothetical routes for other lords up to chibi. I'm guessing Lu Bu will be one since he's iconic, but to me in origins Dong Zhuo and Zhang Jiao got such good revamps I'd rather see them get hypos.
>>533808050PW4 sold a fuck ton and hit 4 million sales back in feb, so they decided to do a next gen port with some new characters
>>533808050that's just the power of one piece.
and they did move to other IPs in the mean time, Hyrule2, FE2, Touken Ranbou, Fate, and Wild Hearts.
>>533813541Issue with a dong hypo is how you do him without overlapping with Loo Boos route, it would be alot of the same officers doing the same things (just killing everyone) i could imagine a little bonus stage where you join him for hulao or something
it's just dawned on me that all the IP spin-offs are anime/cartoony in style.
I wonder if they will ever move out of that comfort zone and do something "western" or just non-cartoony. LoTR, Souls, TES etc, quite a few franchices with ready-made factions & lore that could be ripe for a DW spin-off.
>>533801505There's a lot of stuff in WO3 that I just did not touch
>>533814880I imagine not. While I'd love the see a LoTR game I think most western rights holders would probably not outsource it and just make their own knock offs locally.
>>533813541Dong route would be very similar to Lu Bu's, unless it's a Dong route where he's left by Lu Bu, but it makes no sense for Ziluan to help him out in that case. Unless it's a single route, where you can change the course of history to save Dong or you don't, like you can save Sun Jian. Otherwise I think we may get Lu Bu route and maybe also Yuan Shao's. Yuan already asks you to join him several times
>>533817578Embracer own the IP rights for LoTR games, so koei would have to get permission from them. But given that LoTR mining/survival game and the gollum game... I don't see why Koei wouldn't be able to get the license if they wanted it. Origins is a great polished experience compared to those turds.
Sho himself even mentioned wanting to do it, it's basically the ultimate DW end-game
>>533814880Star Wars could've been a decent choice before that brand completely tanked. OG Battlefront was already more or less a western musou game.
I'd still much rather have a western historical musou, but there are definitely western IPs you could play with. LotR would be legitimately cool.
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>>533819929Sho did mention star wars as well. And yeah I've always thought early medieval britain could be a great musou setting with celts/vikings/saxons etc, the factions & history is all there. It might need slower/heavier gameplay though, I'm not sure if the origins style anime demi-god gameplay would fit the western setting. But then, LoTR wouldn't feel right either with the origins gameplay, so maybe a western musou that alters the gameplay would be a good starting point for a future LoTR spin-off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZy_CbYY-fw
Origins... home...
>>533821095I unironically want anime attack LotR, celt/viking/saxon, and Arthurian musou. I want these things for Greece and Rome as well. The only setting that anime attack bullshit would be a challenge is anything in North America.
>>533821095I'm not sure. Vaguely anime-fied character designs are a big part of the appeal of getting KT to do it. Whether it's LotR or a historical setting I would want it to still look and play like a musou game, otherwise what's the point?
>>533821669>The only setting that anime attack bullshit would be a challenge is anything in North America.I disagree even on that. A Liberty or Death musou with George Washington mowing down 1000 redcoats with a musou attack would get attention the same way Metal Wolf Chaos did.
>>533821095>And yeah I've always thought early medieval britain could be a great musou setting with celts/vikings/saxons etc, the factions & history is all there.There's this.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1913120/Tears_of_Metal/
Who was the minions work for from the Despicable Me franchise work for in the 3 kingdoms?
>>533814880I think Warhammer fantasy musou would work great. GW is not the best to work with though
>>533825108Potentially neat idea ruined by a hideous art style
>>533814880Warcraft is one of the most tailor-made settings for a musou game since it's an RTS series with powerful hero characters fighting with big armies and is separated into missions that can easily be translated into musou stages. A WC2 or 3 adaptation would be kino
Is Reach still ass in WO4, or did they fix it?
>>533826405I would absolutely love a WC3 musou. Imagine playing Samuro and having a moveset similar to SW4/5 Akechi Mitsuhide.
>>533827770It is good now.
>>533819929The PT movies got their share of flak but one thing that era did give us was a shit ton of cool ass video games and comics
>>533830757I think people underestimate how big of a deal that golden age of games was for the IP. If Disney hadn't made that deal with EA and kneecapped Star Wars games in the 2010s I think the IP would be in a much healthier place, even if the sequels were just as shitty.
so do we know WHEN the big tease of the remaster will be revealed? Because I really don't get why they're being coy.
>>533838296We'll probably get an announcement before the end of the year, but I imagine most energy is being put into getting the Origins DLC out come winter.
I forgot how badly Naotora made me want to drive a nail into my ear. I will never understand why the Japanese player base goes for this kind of character.
I think it's almost guaranteed the remaster is DW5. Sho did a Twitter poll last year asking what PS2 games fans wanted remastered the most and 5 won in a landslide.
>>533842331if it makes you feel any better she dies in a cutscene
Naotora was fine in vanilla SW4. Her own popularity destroyed her
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Friendly reminder total war3kingdoms has twice as many playable Nanman Factions playable leaders as Dynasty Warriors playable Nanman .
>>533852218Dynasty Warriors never sold them as an overpowered DLC faction
>>533756440I'm assuming they're talking about the leech enemies everyone just bitched about during the alpha period.
It's sad that they've very likely nerfed these enemies. I found them tough, but that was just my inexperience with the enemies (having only really had enough time to play the alpha demo for about 7-8 hours).
Every enemy I've found tough in Nioh 1 and 2 (like Namahages, Ongyoki, Fukis or even the basic Tengu Ravens, which was an enemy type that kicked my ass on my first playthrough of Nioh 1) I've ended up learning to master over time. I had no doubt I would have done the same with the leech in Nioh 3 and other enemies that casuals consider "overwhelmingly difficult", given enough time to actually lab these enemies and learn counterplay.
But alas, once again, Team Ninja folds into the whiny, scrubby majority. These games give you so many tools to destroy enemies. No nerf of enemy difficulty was ever justified in any of these games.
>>533852631Actually they were for septic factions including the playable since dw3 husband and wife (unless you picked the 3time they can both be in I did it but eventually got the married when I prayed the dude They got bonuses ) but I would like to see the fictional daughter. And a few of the other possible interested ones
Has Cao Cao's wife honestly not been added yet?
>>533855368 Didn't think I have a a few wives and a bunch of concubines to the point cao PI had more of the sibling relationship with his cousin Cao Xiu Then his actual brothers and half Brothers in that family?
>>533842331>>533846285What's the deal with Naotora? My only experience with SW4 was Empires.
>>533857920She speaks in a really high pitched cutsey wutsey "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEH MOOOOOOOOOOOOOA GOMEN KYAAAAAAAAAAAA" kind of cadence while also generally acting really dumb. Basically if you want a picture perfect example of annoying moe, there ya fucking go. dd it doesn't help that because Japanese people love this kind of shit so she ends up being front in center of most everything she's in.
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Yingping is also annoying but not as much
when is cheng pu gonna be playable in a good game
>>533877853Warriors Abyss needs to add her to the game.
>>533887947Is she not in it? How is anyone not in it?! It's an asset flip!
Am I using Halberd wrong, or is Crescent Blade outright better when you learn how to (ab)use Divine Energy Domain and Great Mountain Throw?
The chinks are making a 3K fighting game instead of KT... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJaNPaqml10
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>>533898232Well it's not like Koei has exclusive dibs on actual fucking history. Besides they made a fighting game forever ago. The first DW game was a crappy Soul Edge knock off.
>>533898232>app store>google playI think I know everything I need to, I'm good.
>>533686291Pokken Warriors. Do it
>>533745423I seem to recall Zhou Tai's being a reskined Po Dao in game.
>>533818714What if Lu Bu still betrays Dong but, Ziluan now follows Dongism and saves him? Lu can still be the 4th brother and get ganked later on.
>>533895990You're using it wrong. You can either 10 bravery nuke from range or like 5-6 bravery combo stunning 1-2 guys completely much easier than Crescent Blade.
>>533852218funny story. I asked chatgpt what timeline would exist for zhao yun to revolt against liu bei and side with the nanman tribes. came down to liu bei was the opposite of how he's presented in history and was evil like dong zhuo. so I had it enhance it more and all 3 rulers killed all the leaders of all the nations they defeated except a few so zhao yun revolted knowing liu bei would do the same to the nanman tribes. finishing settings a few things up and will revolt in a moment. good times. should be fun. curious who sides with zhao yun.
>>533909025Maybe you get to spare him in the Lu Bu route, and this follows a trend of teaching him not to go full retard
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I doubt the DLC will give us more than 2 new hypotheticals since the routes are done in more detail in origins. If its just one hypo, it will be Lu Bu. if its two, Lu Bu + Yellow Turds is my guess.
Would be cool to see more bodyguard customization, like letting us select their weapon type, outfits, stance etc. In the early games your bodyguards felt like real bro's who could become slaughter machines, in origins they're just kinda "there" outside of their skills.
Also a NG+ style option were we can keep our gear/skills while reseting our stats would be neat, since the game becomes easy even on UW
>>533942594I'm hoping we get a new difficulty as well, i would love if every officer could parry your parries
>>533946618It doesn't need a new difficulty imo, but UW should be reworked.
>let officers (on both sides) parry>officers should be less spongey as it's just annoying on later stages while not really increasing difficulty>buff normal troops health & damage output (both sides) so they're actually a threatI think this would make UW more enjoyable - more mechanically challenging officers but less spongey, while buffing all the normal troops so they don't fall so easily.
>>533948448It'd be nice but i doubt they would bother over just adding a chaos difficulty, IMO the whole game needs alot of reworking to make it truly challenging, as it is right now it's way too easy to both avoid damage and recover from it.
>battle editor
>fly around an empty map god-mode style and place down all troops/officers for both sides
Bet they could create this without much trouble and it would add loads of replay value coming up with your own scenarios. All they'd have to do is enable the empires style AI so officers/troops move toward bases/enemies (since main game officer movements are all pre-planned), and that's probably already there in the code base.
>>533951542Warriors Orochi 3 had one. I'm shocked it's not more point of conversation. I forget if the older games did. Seems like the kind of thing I'd put a lot of mileage in as a kid.
>>533501535It does make him look better once you realize what it actually means. Here is a man so benevolent and loving that he is willing to place the good of all men above even his own son. Truly such a great man is deserving to rule over all the world.
>>533957708>>533501535I can't help but wondering if we're all misreading a lot of this and it's meant to be a giant giggle making fun of the upper class.
>>533956989Didnt the WO3 editor just allow you to replace officers and select some modifiers like faster enemies etc? Don't remember it letting you place down all the troops/officers of both sides were you wanted them on the battlefield
>>533961139Dunno. It's been a while. When you get down to it there is a lot of moving parts that go into crafting a musou stage.
>>533960916Trying to define a "meant" is hard because "intended" meanings/interpretations of stories can change drastically over time and between authors. Like maybe an earlier storyteller meant it straight but Luo Guanzhong reinterpreted it as a giggle when inserting it into his novel compilation, or even vice versa, and then there's the whole question if it even matters how a storyteller "meant" something if the vast majority of readership have been looking at it a different way for 500 years.
>>533964143I suppose unless we find some long undiscovered document where he just straight up tells us, it's hard to really pick the brain of a long dead writer. Sometimes "death of the author" is a bit too literal.
Finally, death comes again...
>>533978554Not today, anon. Not today.
>>533991009There's a lot of parts of this that just scream wrong.
>>533991009Mrs. Cow Pee is looking a little chunky
>>533996406Looking kind of malformed
is this the general for legend of zelda stuff? I guess its safe to say there wont be a totk dlc, right? what a shame
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>>534006663No. If you're not ancient china or sengoku era japan you're a big nerd.
BotW was OK and probably necessary after Skyward Sword but I wish the good aspects of it were folded back into the more normal style of Zelda game instead of it taking over the whole series forever.
Dynasty Warriors.
Does the 360 version of Samurai 2 work on the Xbone? I don't have my 360 anymore.
>>534009590No, none of the musou games were added to backwards compatibility
>>534011704well fuck. Guess I'll just emulate the PS2 version.
Went back to WO3 after playing more WO4. 3 is just better.
Musou games really need to add the ability to use defense formations for your allied camps/bases. It really sucks to have to constantly babysit these camps/bases, especially if you happen to be on one side of the map and a base you captured at the other side of the map gets recaptured by enemies.
Or hell, give us an RPG progression system that allows us to make any captured camp/base have like up to 2-3 times as much HP or something like that.
>>534017031I can't even be bothered to touch WO4 because of how ugly it is.
Compare WO4 with Samurai Warriors 4DX. The latter managed to strike a good balance in terms of combining these vast, expansive battlefields with aesthetically pleasing art direction. It looks very cohesive.
WO4 in contrast looks very ugly and cheap. There is no sense of cohesion here.
>>534018249A very basic system of camp fortifying and issuing very general orders to the troops would add a lot.
>>534018434It's just not very interesting. 3 really felt like it was making good use of it's crossover setting. There's a lot of grind and replaying levels but it always felt purposeful and it was actually neat to see how the stages play differently thanks to your actions elsewhere. 4 feels fine, but overall progressing just feels dull. It's not very immersive.
>>533846125she should've died back in 1582 but somehow they brought her well into sekigahara
>>534018569The fire emblem games solve this problem by letting you command whatever officers you want, i never understood why they didn't throw this into the mainline games, though knowing koei they would say they need a lore justification or some shit
>>534027615You could do that in Samurai 4 empires. Probably others. Honestly it feels like a no brainer. Especially if you need to cover ground fast and don't feel like a commute.
>>533910203How are you nuking from range using the Halberd? Unless you're counting Valiant Steed Blitz as a ranged attack. By otherwise you're right, I tried Halberd again and it's still better than Crescent Blade overall, but damn Great Mountain Throw is some absolute bullshit.
>>534027615>>534027818Yeah, being able to direct allied officers was a big help in SW4E, and that's without using the player swap feature when it's available.
>>534030209Yeah, Blitz is a ranged nuke. You actually want to use it from range to avoid getting interrupted
Ship of Harkinian is very good.
Hell yeah Origins is awesome. Still a bit pricy despite there's a discount already but it plays well. The constant praises is a bit weird though.
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So One Piece Pirate Warriors 4 is 75% off. Would you recommend it? And if so, which DLC is essential?
Mind you, I don't give a shit about One Piece. I just want to know if it's good as a musou.
>>534042378yeah but I don't know anything about the dlc. speed characters are the most fun.
>>534027615Because in practice spending 25-50% of a stage constantly going back to the menu to direct your officers around isn't very fun, even moreso in something in like FEW1 where you need to do it to avoid weapon triangle disadvantages too
sw5 or abyss I won't want to play both any time soon
>>534032808I try to position the enemy officers so my horse runs them over during the startup. The horse running in at the start of VSB can interrupt pretty much any enemy attack short of a Musou Rage startup or finisher. Failing that, Shadow Runner allows you to avoid being interrupted.
>>534045459You can get interrupted before mounting the horse by a stray hit or something. Never tried Shadow Runner though, maybe it's completely fail safe then.
>256 replies in less than a week
Huh? New games?
>>534051353Origins DLC and PS2 game remaster announcements reminded people outside the diehard regulars that we exist for a few days
>>533843000The game where Lu Bu's musou mode abruptly ended at Xia Pi?
That's lame.
>>534047389Unfortunately Shadow Runner doesn't save you if you get hit before mounting the horse, it just stops you from getting interrupted afterwards.
>Warriors Abyss
>Xu Shu gets an attack boost for every Strategist he has
>he has a higher chance of Shu characters as well
>Shu barely has any strategists and good Shu characters mostly want you to get 8-10 Shus to get the tactic
I'd get it if it was a Toyotomi character gimmick because most of them are strategists excluding pretty much only John Toyotomi and his shinobi wife, but for Xu Shu it's just annoying, you either go for Shu kingdom for character synergy, or for anyone but Shu to strengthen Xu Shu's trait
How goes the empty fort stratagem, generals?
>>534060958DW1 unironically isn't counted in the series because of its lack of Shin in the Japanese title. I'd be unironically hyped for it though, need more 3D weapon-based fighta.
Dynasty Warriors 1-II when
>DW9hd we fixed it this time honest
the DLC announcement gave a nice little boost for a few days and got reported on some mainstream sites etc... but imagine if they hadn't completely forgot about origins post-launch and did more than a photo-mode nobody cares about. Even if they've actually been secretly working on the DLC all this time, they could've kept Origins in players mind more with just a few updates here and there for basic QoL stuff, like being able to buy more than a few items at a time, a better free mode menu etc.
It's like they put it out, sold over a million and instantly moved on to Abyss like it never happened.
>>534090528Modern game development is strange. A game can never just be done anymore. Even a single player title needs to have constant updates and attention or it some how becomes "dead"
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Okay I need to get this list done and I had don't know how to dual unless someone challenged me .Also I'm playing it on Steam,
>origins is still 70 leafbucks
Should I pull the plug? I don't really dig the OC angle
>>534100309games really don't go on sale the way they used to anymore
>playing warriors abyss>just choose whatever options gives the biggest number>just trust enma with my formation>don't know any of the mechanics and don't bother reading>lose to the final boss because it has a phase 2game sux
>>534042378just buy the sexy ladies
god knows that's all oda is good for
>>534115762Frankly I never say anything appealing about OP's art style in the slightest
In regards to the remaster I really hope they include the Xl and empires expansion. It would kind of be lame if they just did the main game.
dw7 DE is on sale for 7$ so I grabbed that and been running modes with zhu rong and guan yu (switching between them). Honest shame dw7 empires isnt up for 7$ as it'd be nice to play along with dw8empires and dw8:xl. ive also been all over rotk13 lately doing dumb shit with the editor and goofing off (lu bu solo run's just crushing everyone in the yellow turban rebellian and executing everyone I capture. fun times.
Are any of the Senran Kagura games good? Of course I'm talking about the musou ones, not the dating one or the beach water blaster shooter games.
>>534123414they're okay. a bit too melon faced for my liking
>>534099968Second Battle of Puyang on Wei route gives you 4 duels with generics. If it's your first playthrough, don't care about the trainings too much if it's just skill points, you can complete them whenever
>>533806558Him with Loki.
>>533808050>>533809186>>533813719But Pirate Warriors 4 is ass. I even kept playing way after I considered it ass. To at least kill time until Pirate Warriors 5.
But they haven't announced Pirate Warriors 5. I want a good game, that's all I want.
I would probably even quit the Pirate Warriors obsession after I 100% PW5, if it's an excellent game.
>>534123414Pirating Estival Versus with all the DLC characters was a lot of fun.
But the base game content was fun enough.
I wish there was more.
Burst Renewal was quite boring.
The Neptunia X Senran Kagura was also boring. It had an OST I liked.
>>534123414The 3DS games are more interesting even if the first one especially runs like shit. The musou games are OK, only recommended if you think the tits can carry you. Characters and stuff are fun.
I'd say Burst Renewal (remake of the first game in musou style) is an OK pickup if you're interested but definitely wait for a sale.
>>534042378Pirate Warriors 3 is more fun as a game, and it makes you feel like you're getting your money's worth for it.
Pirate Warriors 4 is a: don't feel bad if you buy it on sale and you don't like it.
As for "essential DLC," if you don't care about One Piece, then don't bother.
'Cause you'll probably won't care enough to 100% the save file.
And the rewards of the DLC missions are useful for endgame. For the most part you don't need them in the base game.
And once you go from the level cap of 18 in the base game, to the new level cap of lvl 30, the base game because TOO easy.
Some DLC characters are stronger than normal. Like the Legend Dawn pack (2 chars at least: Roger, Garp).
But packs are always a scam, they either have 1 character that's worth it and 2 that suck.
Or 2 that are good, and one that sucks. But never 3 good or interesting characters in a pack.
I hate that they're treating a musou game as a fighting game. Releasing season passes.
That's what ruined fighting games. The most fun musou games have relatively large to large rosters.
That allows for personal expression through game-play.
>>534129972Plus, they did that monstrosity of survey to vote for new characters.
With awful options, and they took a long ass time to communicate anything.
They're giving news on August 10,
but they haven't even released the results of the survey yet. It was months ago.
>>534100309I went for it. Hope it's good.
>>534100309>Koei Tecmo>DiscountCan someone post that image where they had a steam sale with 0% discount?
>>534137228I've never seen it. But I believe it.
>>534042378I already sank around 25 hours in it and already got 36/40 achievements (most of them are stupidly easy). Gameplay wise PW3 is much better but sadly it has such a broken steam port that koei will never ever fix (it crashes all the time even after you already lower your resolution, use your integrated chip as opposed to your gaming gpu because the steam info literally tells you that a better PC will make the game prone to crashes), the movement feels float-y, the damage you receive is barely felt, you can button mashing all you want but then you'll get shocked that your HP is already depleted because you dont feel being beaten that much. It doesn't challenge you with some difficult missions in PW3 where you complete the puzzle for each stage, it pretty much just tells you to beat the enemy in your path.
>>534129972>>534141068If PW3 is the better game and if the PC port of PW3 is trash, then is playing it on RPCS3 the best way to go about doing it?
>>534141983yeah you should, i was pissed i couldn't continue my PW3 on PC because it crashed every 3 minutes, i wasn't even in my last story arc
>>534145487Lianshi in Warriors Abyss SOON
please
I hope
>>534100309finally gave in to my temptation and bought it while it's still on sale, immediately installed and i'm having so much fun. at least for now i don't regret spending the money
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>older game is more expensive than the sequel
I guess the pricing reflects the demand and the quality in this case.
>>534147937High class. Would empress.
>>534148578no, things just rarely get base price markdowns. It will go on sale for 3 or 4 dollars.
>>534155189You might even be able to fish up a second hand console version
>>534148578why are you buying older games when it's not on discount, i bought these when it's like 10-15 dollar each
When do we think the origins DLC will drop? I hope later this year, but expect it to come early next year on the anniversary.
The fact they called it "major" gives me hope. Maybe the reason Origins didn't have much in terms of post-launch love is because they quickly started on this DLC after the good sales figure? It gives me hope that this will feel like a proper PS2 era XL expansion in terms of content, so not just 1 or 2 hypothetical routes for Lu Bu or Yellow Turbans, but more content across the board. More weapons & skills, more bodyguard tactics, a dedicated free mode, more outfits for ziluan (and maybe your bodyguards?) etc. It would make origins feel like a really good, complete experience that would pave the way for Origins Part 2.
I want to level with someone is faking they are yellow turbans in Dynasty Warriors Origins.
>>534175068My Xu Zhu brain can't work out what you're trying to say
I'm curious where ESL anon is from
>>534175068>>534189510>>534191083 I want a stage or battle in Dynasty Warriors origin where Bandits or attacking a village or something pretending they are yellow turbines which historically generative in Rebellion there were people using their name to get away with criminal activity who were not members of it whatsoever.
>>534194185You mean something like this, anon?
>>534197513we're so hungry
why did they make enma so sexy
>>534215694Who? And by that I mean please provide an image,
>>534215694>Warriors : Abyss>the only original character is a qt femboy trap>Dynasty Warriors Origins>you play as a femboy absolutely everyone lusts after and the second most important character is a trap doctorIs that what the target audience desires? Were Hanbei and Ranmaru so popular Kekmo decided they should go fully towards this direction? I'm not against it, I just am surprised
>>534216890I'm 100% in support of it but I'm also the kinda fag who plays otome games.
>>534216890If Ranmaru was that popular they wouldn't have left him out of the one game where he could have actually been relevant
>>534148578>>534141068>>534129972>>534129131The true sequel to Pirate Warriors 3 is Dragon Quest Heroes 2.
And it even feels like the world of One Piece. Musou + adventure/ slight exploration = kino.
DQH2 it's semi open world with musou gameplay, and it has battlefield/ war stages too (normal musou stages).
>>534217986DQH2 was so close to being great, and it came out right before DQ11 added a bunch of new popular characters they could've used. No idea why they just dropped the series after that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nBGPJhI0bY
>>534229871was the arslan game any good
>>534233954Yeah. I liked it. It doesn't go super far because the new anime was only so long at the time of development but it's solid. Mardan rush is a very fun mechanic. I really wish they'd do another one.
How bad is the GBA Dynasty Warriors?
>>534259940bad? it's one of the few gba games I kept and play still. I even play it in emulation. It lacks features compared to the ps2 versions but idk I still think it's fun and bust it out at least once or twice a month for awhile. but im fairly maxed out everything at this point so now I just dink around in it.
DW should've had its own SW Katana
>>534257414For the most part I don't think toning down the exaggeration of the character personalities was all too bad. I got a friend to play Origins as his first DW and he took Xu Zhu semi-seriously instead of like a big retarded baby.
so is traversal 6 the grind mode? I got to lu bu with what I thought was good stuff and I did no damage. I seemed unstoppable up until that point.
is this the best version of diao chan in DW?
>>534281497 She's probably the most useful she ever been besides just being someone who can seduce people.
>>534281497I love her in Dynasty Warriors Origins .
Origins is continuing to pump on Steam this week after the DLC announcement, it's been on sale for 25% off for a while before that. It's back to breaching 5k peak CCU each day even after the weekend, putting it back into May's top numbers
https://steamdb.info/app/2384580/charts/
>>534298774Historically that's proven to be very useful
>>534333831I wonder what its sales numbers are like now after the first months 1 milly. Within 24hrs of playing I could tell it's a game that many wouldn't buy at launch due to its AAA pricing (being a DW game, afterall), but they would pick it up during sales due to its good reception. That does seem to have played out just as I thought.
>>534339378 Actually she was fictional from the Romance of the 3 kingdoms..
>>534348939Actually it worked for a lot of other people who have strong historical bases. Cleopatra ring any bells.
>>534348939>>534354335There was a famous Spring-Autumn/Warring States era story of the King of Yue sending a honeypot girl to ruin his rival the King of Wu, but Three Kingdoms doesn't have one so the storytellers had to make one up. LĂź Bu did seduce one of Dong Zhuo's women which made him afraid of Dong Zhuo, but the original story in the history books just mentions it offhand and don't describe it as a honeypot plan.
>>534061856>>534277602Speaking of storytellers having to make shit up, I've heard the earliest reference to an "Empty Fort strategy" is a Warring Staters era story too. Also Cao Cao, Wen Pin, and Zhao Yun all have "empty fort strategy" stories associated with them but aren't actually called by that name for whatever reason.
>>534369004Lu Lingqi (onyomi: Ryo Reiki) is a fictional name for Lu Bu's historically unnamed daughter. Really sweet a lot of the females should have been named by modern standards but we don't know the actual historical names from the 3 kingdoms because they were females of the time and not men. And her mother was the historical wife of Lu Bu.
>>534137345Took me two days, but found it
not much known about Lu Bu prior to his service to Ding Yuan
>>534393728He was probably just a youth drifting up the lower end of the administrative totem pole, given he was just a registrar under Ding Yuan by the time he was remotely noteworthy
>>534393728he's a mongol and he really like horses
>>534395047There is a lot of paperwork in ancient asia
his battle stage shouldn't be as long as it did, genuinely bullshit when you're just starting. it's just him and his shitty ass staff.
>>534401203Did they ever actually resolve that whole famine thing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7wSkr2UYYs
>>534401203Just parry, bro
>>534401203I like how Chapter 1 goes to great lengths to establish that there isn't any real magic, and the Yellow Turbans are just using incenses and trickery to deceive their enemies. Then this motherfucker starts levitating and summoning rocks and lightning with any incenses, and no-one mentions it or brings it up ever again.
the absolute fucking lack of quality Musou related merch upsets me
>>534422695I want a Lingqi plushie
>>534422695thats the usual actual though, ppl still buy crap though
>>534409504Hey, if you're an able-bodied young man that needs to feed his family, I've got a great opportunity for you.
has that autist Sho spilled any beans on his socials since the DLC announcement
>play Traversal 6 as Lu Bu in Abyss several times
>never get Red Hare
I still win easy because Lu Bu's strong but it's an annoying feeling to know you missed out on a big boost
Could an open world musou actually work? We know KT did it with 9 because everyone else was doing it, but would there be a way to make it work in the series' favor?
>>534467950I don't want to say it's impossible but you really need to put a lot of work into making it interesting
>>534467950maybe for a spinoff, depending on the property.
3K or warring states, not so much
>>534467950I think it's wholly dependent on making the battlefield simulation a primary focus, which 9 did the opposite of and practically axed completely. If armies don't move around the map or their movements have no meaning to the player, then all you're left with is the standard musou formula but it's missing a critical component and takes longer to get to the actual gameplay.
>>534467950Completely possible and probably a lot of fun if done well, but it would definitely suit a fantasy setting (preferably an original IP) better. Maybe they could bring back Gemfire or something.
>>533421810 (OP) I'm pretty sure it's sometime next week but when next week are we going to find out who's going to be added to one piece pirate warriors 4 by popular volt?
>>534490821I'm sure it will be shocking
Liao Hua will finally be in Origins 2 as a non-playable officer
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