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>>533501263>Falcom Gameshttps://pastebin.com/DsiJppXk
>Pastebin (aka music)https://pastebin.com/G2mswYCt
>Extra Stuff (guides, downloads, undub patches)https://pastebin.com/n2G4xL5s
>Games, mods, saves, pre-patched translationshttps://nyaa.si/user/Ganba
https://nyaa.si/view/1749605
https://nyaa.si/view/1749617
>Translation patches for Hajimari, Oath in Felghana, Kuro 1 and Kuro 2https://pastebin.com/g7PfH0bL
>Kai MTL patchhttps://files.catbox.moe/ygv0l2.7z
UPDATED: 14/07
>Ys X: Proud Nordics Long trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l_gLbiYx-4
>Trails in the Sky 1st Chapter Ruan introduction trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_hgREJvkwY
>Trails beyond the Horizon is coming to Switch 2 and delayed to January 2026https://www.gematsu.com/2025/06/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-beyond-the-horizon-adds-switch-2-version-delayed-to-january-2026-in-the-west
>Trails in the Sky the 1st website UPDATEDhttps://www.falcom.co.jp/sora/
>Ys X: Proud Nordics coming to Switch 2, PC in Asia on August 21https://www.gematsu.com/2025/06/ys-x-proud-nordics-coming-to-switch-2-pc-in-asia-on-august-21
>Ys vs. Trails in the Sky - Character Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWlnkFZ4NGI
>Trails beyond the Horizon Announcement Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8wfZrV854Q
>Trails in the Sky the 1st will receive a new english script that 'Honors the Original Japanese text'https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2025/04/classic-jrpg-remake-trails-in-the-sky-1st-chapter-confirms-new-script-that-honors-the-original-japanese-text
>>533600858Loli domination.....
>>533600950Imagine her swinging you around by your dick
why are kuro screenshots not as regurgitated as the erebonia arc
>>533601627Not as interesting
Only the strippers really got ritualposted
>>533601627gonna start posting some when i play it. probably not til late this year. gonna play Sky 1st before Daybreak, haha.
>>533602227Donโt be here people post spoilers about the arcs
>>533602426i know
i have seen.
but shit can still impress me, or it's so out of context i can't make heads or tails of it
it's just hard to drum up conversation of this series outside of this thread, and i feel it's hard enough already here lol
but thanks for trying to look out for me man
>>533600534 (OP)Hey wait a second there's something off about this Rean...
Anyone have a mirror for the kai patch please? Catbox is dead?
>>533603157Getting the Kai ending ruined kinda spoils the big surprise it was meant to go for though you wonโt be able to rate the game for what itโs trying to do right?
We need more wholesomeness.
>>533607602Na-chan is a lewd girl so this pic isnt wholesome...
>>533605675Idk, i'll see when i get there
I am will absolutely fuck off if by the time Kai 2 rolls around I can't play day 1 since I am not caught up. And won't post here again until after i beat it
>>533609216I mean itโs a good thing if you donโt know the ending so thatโs good if you donโt
Not bad. We'll see how it does in the long run. Game seems to run well for the most part in 120fps mode. Good word of mouth could help it.
https://youtu.be/sYTxWslyJA0?si=dyW3df99osKrZDAE
>>533612407this is why you get games out early on nintendo consoles cause theyll just buy anything
shame falcom was too fucking retarded to put sky on it
They need to hurry up and put it out in the West.
>>533613701It also needs to be stuck on Shitch 2
>>533614027not be stuck i meant
>>533613101>shame falcom was too fucking retarded to put sky on itThat's a good idea anon-kun. I think we should delay Sky 1st to January so we can make key cards for the switch 2.
>>533600534 (OP)SWITCHchads saved the series once again
>>533612407Beauty of ys 10 is you donโt have to play previous games like trails so anyone can pick it up
>>533618459theyre literally making a trails game anyone can pick up right now
>>533618693yeah, you can pick them up and then toss them in the garbage afterwards
>>533618860idk why ysfags have to seethe all the time its pretty sad but whatever
>>533618693yes I know Im talking about events before sky the first like the cold steel and calvard games jsut mentioning how effective is when a stand alone game is on the market
>>533607602We need more JC and JK correction
The only thing you need is a bullet through your skull
Kondom's new interview
https://www.gamer.ne.jp/news/202508020001/
Maybe if he spent more time being a dev instead of a celebrity profits wouldn't be down 90% haha
>Kondo: To be honest, I think it would have been better to have the Society appear in the main story, but the fact is that we didn't originally plan to include the Society members, and they ended up being added later, so we couldn't include them in the main story.
this man is unbelievable
>>533625158>we didn't plan this, we didn't plan thatwell shit motherfucker I wonder what the issue with these games could be
>Kondo: Fans often ask why the Bond Events aren't included in the main game, even though the content is good, but the truth is, there just isn't enough room to include them in the main game. We would have liked to be able to include more of them in the long game, but if we did that, it would get out of hand, so we reluctantly include them in the Bond Events.
are you fucking serious
you can easily include all of these things in the main story if you just... cut out the filler and replace it with the meaningful character stuff that you shove into bond events
Kondo is a scummy person that lies more than he talks
It's no wonder he's 50 years old and still a virgin loser that can't get a wife and family despite worming his way to the Falcom presidency
>>533625497Kondos greatest achievement is winning Karate trophies for beating up kids lmao
Gotta make way for "TEST YOUR RESOLVE" bullshit, recycled shite quests and other patented Falcom fillers
Bros I think Kondo is genuinely fucking retarded.... Kai 2 will probably be the last kiseki game I'll buy and play because I'm already invested in calvard characters, but the way he treated his arc and characters is fucking disgusting, so I'll watch kiseki ending on YouTube
>>533625497he should have gone into politics
>>533625389Falcom are just too lazy to organically write the character development into the story anymore so they shove everything into bond events because they're easier for them to write because they basically all take place in a bubble dimension where the laws of continuity or setting don't have to matter. Like they don't have to come up with a reason why a character would react to something or give them a reason to visit a certain place because in a bond event you can just freeze time and have Van and x character just teleport wherever you need them to be for the scene to work. I don't know if i'm explaining what I mean correctly but bond events are just a way for them to be lazy.
>>533625570he's so cuckable...
>>533625801But it still blows my mind they'd rather prioritize their garbage side quests instead of putting meaningful developments from connect events in the main story. Honestly falcom deserves their fucking decline, they were way too comfortable with shitting out cold steel yearly, but now they just don't give a fuck because it'll be too much effort
>>533625389bond events are 5 minutes tops
the "filler" is usually layered side quests with a lot of world building and content to it
you basically want to do away with 100h long entries so you can have 40h long soap operas
Kondo knows his real target audience and it's not you
>>533625801To add on to this this is also why every game now has the garden shit. They don't have to design "real world" areas that logically connect to the world by hand anymore and fill them with quest content, new monsters etc. Now everything is just randomly generated shit inside of a computer realm because it's less effort for them to do that. I always thought Falcom were lazy and cut a lot of corners before but Calvard is where they really just stopped putting in any effort at all.
>>533626134There's room for both but they'd rather spend the majority of the game on fluff conversations about food and other timewasting shit.
>>533626151Kondom saying they put Marchen Garden in Kuro II because the staff wanted the game to have "natural environments" since the entire main story takes place in Edith was one of the death knells for the series. We used to walk through Liberl or fly an Airship through Erebonia, now you just transport to AI land for your environmentslop. They forgot their roots.
>>533623924Every time I read Kondo's recent interviews my blood boils with anger
>>533626451I was so bummed when they showed off that south east asian looking temple in all the pre-release stuff and then it turned out it was just a fucking holodeck.
>>533626136You're embarrassing yourself.
>>533626789I'm not the one begging for more LN scenes in my video games
God forbid they try something new
>--As the story gets more epic, it seems like it would be difficult to portray each character individually. Are there any parts of each character you would like to explore further?
>Kondo: We definitely need to move forward with the main story, and we need to depict it. The main characters, the members of the Solver team, will continue to be connected to the main story in some ways. Of course, Aaron and Judith will be there too. I think that will continue to be depicted well. It's difficult to balance, but we'll give it a try and see what happens.
In fact, everyone is quite closely related, and Lisette is directly related to future developments. She herself is a big mystery, and that will be revealed in the next episode. The next episode's scenario has already been decided at this stage, and the story structure will be a bit different from that of "Kai no Kiseki." It is planned to be a system that is truly conscious of storytelling for the second half of the game.
Haha... Kai 2 is fucked.
>>533626615> It is planned to be a system that is truly conscious of storytelling for the second half of the game.what does this even mean
>>533627291No idea... maybe even more routes lmao
>>533627291Nigga is just saying words
>>533627291It's just Kondo saying shit that sounds like it'll vaguely be promising to get people interested but without actually saying anything concrete. He does it constantly.
>Rean was the last to be decided. I was debating whether to include him or not until the very end. Of course, there are undoubtedly people who would be happy to see him reappear, but if he did appear (even though Van is the main character), it would tend to take over the show.
>However, the idea that Rean would become involved with the Republic was hinted at in hajimari so even if he hadn't appeared in the original, I think there was a setting that he was working behind the scenes in some way.
>>533627817yeah they didnt want him to take over the show which is why they plastered him all over the marketing and put more effort into his animations than anyone elses
>>533627210>>533627817Is Kondom getting senile or something? Isn't it too early for that?
>>533627943He just talks out of his ass. I doubt he knows wtf is going on aside from the main outline. He just doesn't care kek
will they give him a 3rd s-craft in kai 2
will they give him any relevance or highlights in his own arc
>>533628245no
his route in kai 2 will probably only be 30% of the game lmao
>ใใฎๅพใพใ ใฒใจๆถ็ใใไบๅฎใงใใใใ่ณๅฎใฎๆฉ่ฝใจใ็ตกใใ่ฉฑใซใชใฃใฆใใใพใใใ ใใๆฎใฃใฆใใใฎใฏ็ตๆซใ ใใงใฏใชใใ่ณๅฎใฎๆฉ่ฝใจ้ฃๅใใในใใผใชใผใๆใใใฆใใใใจใซใชใใพใใ
>ๅ
ฑๅๅฝใฏๅฒใจๅฝ่ชไฝใฎๆญดๅฒใฟใใใชใจใใใซในใใใใๅฝใฆใชใใใ่ฉฑใๆใใฆใใฆใใใฎใงใใใใๅคงใใชใญใผใฏใผใใซใชใใจๆใฃใฆใใฆใใใ ใใใฐใจๆใใพใใ
it sounds like the time septerrion will be used to go back in time to the calvard revolution. datamined character models already hinted at this but this more or less confirms it's not cut content.
>>533628495Kevin goes back in time to revolutionary Calvard (accompanied by zero Calvardian characters), Rean goes into space and fights the mecha and cube and Van spends the whole game doing "help i got le scammed" 4spgs and updating his blog.
>>533628495Yeah that was made obvious with all these unused NPC models. We still know jack shit about the revolution and Risette's timeloop seems to be important
>>533626649Oh god yeah that fucking sucked. Didnโt get to explore Ored either because we need more Edithslop!
Haha guess anons really go full doomer mode with Van, but well it can work in both ways since people won't have any expectations from him he might end up stealing the show... or falcom will completely and utterly destroy him as the protagonist
>>533629213>or falcom will completely and utterly destroy him as the protagonistthey already did that when they made him die 12 times and then made him irrelevant two games in a row
>>533629354Didn't stop Agnes from mogging everyone in just one game
>>533627291Each original ASO member gets a chapter to themselves but the real reason is because theyโre actually all historical figures that ended up in present day through some reverse grandfather paradox bullshit
>>533629947will she show up for 5 minutes at the end of the game again
will they put her on the cover again kek
>>533629947do you think she let loewe hit
>>533629720They are connected to a lot of historical and famous figures, but they are not them. Only Van's existence could be involved with the time bullshit, but then again we don't know if he and vagrants are separated beings or Van is just an artificially created human who houses the diabolic core. It was made pretty clear that Van and mcburn's circumstances are different since mcburn is a fusion between zemurian and a demon from the beyond, but Van was born this way
>>533629947Nursing handjobs from GM...
Kai 2 will be the set up for the huge pay off in Kuro FINAL CHAPTER
When all is said and one you WILL apologize to Kondo
[Spectacular News] Following a recent analytics and trends study, experts calculate /fg/ will be gone before the year's end. Many in the Falcom fandom have already taken to the streets to celebrate this enormous turn of events. Famous figures in the fandom proclaim: "Good riddance!", amidst boisterous applause.
>>533640681The death of /fg/ will not be allowed to happen. This place keeps the fandom's biggest schizos in check. We'll employ the necessary measures to keep it moving.
>>533628631Sounds kino. That is exactly what I want. Also add in Lloyd and make him do the same thing Van is doing but in an even lamer fashion.
>>533642061You're just one anon
Eventually a game will catch your attention, a woman will tempt you or an illness will take you out of commission and you will abandon /fg/ for long enough that it will crumble
Your insistence to deny this only proves how much you fear our preordained fate
You WILL burn out
>>533643345Your mistake is assuming there is only one schizo and that automatically makes you the biggest schizo.
>>533648304I didn't say there's only one schizo thouever seems like you're the one making assumptions and thus labelling yourself the biggest schizo haha
Lapis will be in the sky remake, spying on the protags from afar and you'll only be able to catch quick glimpses of her.
>>533648460"No u" is not a valid argument, sorry but you're still stuck with biggest schizo moniker.
>>533648623this is why you're the only one that wants to keep /fg/ going; you've driven everyone else away with your mental issues
no wonder you're so reliant on this place haha you're so foul you can't exist without anonymity
>>533648882You realise I am not that anon you replied like two posts ago right?
>>533649034what exactly does that change?
>>533649098The change is that it makes you look an even bigger of schizo.
>>533649186Is that your only move, relentlessly accusing me of being a schizo? Say it again, it won't change the fact that no one stands you in person and you can never exist outside of this containment zone haha
>>533649292Massssssive schizo KEKW
>>533649373I can only assume it really hurts you being called a schizo so you use it on others thinking it'll have the same effect
But it's doing nothing buddy, and your mounting anger is quite funny to witness
Try not to ruin your mother's day again, okay?
>>533649492Ginormous schizo LOL
>>533649593Do you think she deserves all this misery you put on her?
Why not allow her to enjoy her twilight years and remove yourself? It could be your one saving grace after such a rotten pathetic life
>>533649675The joke is on you wasting your time with me. Schizo Hehehehehehehe
>>533649843I'd like to think I'm keeping you from hurting your family further, a better son to your mother than you've ever been
>>533649927My mom has been dead for 30 years retard. Your assumptions are so bad
>>533650421And she's stuck in hell regretting giving birth to a sociopath acting like a retard in his 50s
>>533612407Lordy this game looks like shit on the Shitch.
>>533644153Cute and canon!
>>533623924Wait did Kondo say that Kai script was finalized by the time kuro 2 came out?
I honestly can't trust this faggot's words anymore especially now that he completely killed the Calvard arc after kuro 1 and acts like kuro 2 and Kai have no problems and it was all planned out fufu as expected.
>>533652356You've never been able to trust Kondo. He's a complete idiot. Look at his past interviews and then look at the games he's talking about. You should've come to this realization however long ago you started playing these games.
>>533628495>datamined character models already hinted at thisWait what? I've not once heard about this
>>533644915fucking slut...look how happy she looks
Man, even people caught up can get spoiled cuz of the chinks.
Blame Kondom for not teasing or setting up time travel or vagrants shit after 3 fucking games
>>533644915>>533650790JKs are made for impregnation
agnes
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>>533658559>the only Kaedefag in /fg/It's like witnessing a unicorn.
>>533626451Werenโt people tired or burned out by the airship stuff in cs2 and cs4 though?
>>533660927Dunno about people but I was. Absolutely.
>>533660927Cs4 at least the npc conversations were nice in them but cs2 it felt too much but at least it was one act of it whereas CS4 itโs two acts of it
>>533660569She literally only appears in Shizuna's connect events and she's an NPC in rean route 3 afaik so there's a chance people won't even know about her if they didn't do Shizuna connect. Falcom will probably upgrade her to the side character since she has voiced lines and unique design. Fabio will probably be a side character as well
>>533627210Arkride solutions so far have been a solid cast and hopefully Judith gets more for next game so good thing Kondo realizes that for her and Aaron with rhagu and Dominic. Kondo making the cast just 8 people was solid glad they didnโt make it 17 like in cs4 even though other cs games did better even with their large 11 cast.
Kai 2 will for sure be good the route system made sure aso gets to have their own moments without too many legacy characters intruding like in cs4.
>>533652356before kuro 2 came out he said that that kuro 2 would resolve most of the plotlines and literally the only shit they resolved was who the fake c was (as if anyone actually gave a shit) and getting the 8th geneshit
before kai came out kondo promised that it would resolve everything and that after it was finishes there would be "very few" of the series mysteries left unanswered and as we all know it was just a setup game for the next one that left you with more questions than answers
hes just a lying morally bankrupt faggot who will say anything
>>533661775Falcom made a nice cast with great designs, top tier A-list seiyuus voicing them and a nice synergy/chemistry and yet they absolutely refuse to give them anything interesting in the main story. Just fire this faggot Takeiri and replace him with a competent main plot writer
Chinaman described what I feel about the current state of kiseki the best
>I criticized it last year, and I'll do it again this year. There are many problems with falcom now, but the biggest problem is one. It's super chaotic project management. It'sone thing for the people above to change their VAs as soon as they patted their brains. Before the launch of Kuro, the president vowed that the Republic would not last as long as the empire, and then you see what it looks like now. The project management of falcom is simply terrible. Sometimes people think that falcom deliberately divided the commercial law. In fact, the real situation is that they planned very well at the beginning, but halfway through the development, they found that the development couldn't keep up with the sale. They had to break the chapter in the middle. Then there is the classic game that can't be developed for a year and takes another game out as the backstop. ys 9 and kuro 2 are both victims, but if the track is very surprising, what about ys 10?
And in the short term, Kato's death will not bring about any changes, unless the company expands its scale or gives up on one game per year.
If this continues, will this company be able to live until the end of the trails?
Just complain casually, everyone should listen to it.
Kondo has been lying about every single release since /fg/ was made (and probably even before that) and yet you people act like he only started lying a year ago.
>>533662962I feel like this is the breaking point. People were generally more optimistic about the series until cs4 did an irreplaceable damage and kuro 2 and Kai completely killing any future hope
>>533662962I think its more people became actually aware in recent times
>>533662291Did you play Kai?
>>533663432>series until cs4 did an irreplaceable damageWhy do I see this so often? I thought le curse and "Osborne is actually a saint despite killing, displacing and destabilizing people and their governments" in CS4 was a pretty shit justification for what the Sky cast and others went through, but even still to me the Civil War was handled way worse and for something with like 4 games of build up it ended up being horrible.
4's curse was pretty shit, but it still had some really great moments and at least the humongous cast feels appropriate considering shit will have world-ending consequences.
What's so bad about 4? Did Japan's reception to it lower sales, are they particularly vocal on how they don't like it or something?
Also, this line in Reverie cracked me up.
Yes I've played 4spg no kiseki where nothing interesting happens in Van's route until the end
>>533665667I'm not reading your wall of text. I'm just saying that cs4 was the game that filtered a decent chunk of players and killed old /fg/
it's funny how newfag cold shit eating trannies are now trying to redeem cold shit 4 lmao
>>533665984But what about CS4 did that? What did people hate about it so much?
>>533665667Thing about cs4 is that it requires reverie to expand and explain some of the antagonists like Rufus and lecter and even Osbornes motivations and plan and why he went about the methods he did throughout cs4. CS4s structure and how it handled old class 7 needed to improve. Donโt get me wrong I think fg for sure overreacts to the game being bad and they exaggerate but cs4 for sure had some problems caused by cast bloat. Reverie made me think fonder on it though but thatโs not CS4s merit though itโs reveries
>>533658272Why did it fail? According to Estelle trannies fem protag = success
>supposedly likes Kiseki
>feels overwhelmed by 4 lines of text
Kisekoids, everyone.
doing daybreak 2 fragment chapter and fighting elaine and zin, but elaine keeps specifically attacking only agnes... why?
>>533643345As long as the blood is running in my veins I'll keep this general alive. So many faces in /fg/ have came and went, and yet it still stands. You will be one of the faces lost to /fg/'s halls and adjourned on it's walls.
If you think posting images on cooldown is a dignified way of keeping the thread alive go off sis
>>533666523Yeah, I am not saying CS4 is perfect or anything, but aside from the curse shit, I think they played their cards right, mostly. I don't know about needing Reverie to make sense of it, though.
I think Rufus' motivations are explained well enough in 4 and Reverie is him reflecting on who he was and who he now wants to be. I think it does give more insight into how Lechter and Claire deal with the weight of their consequences , and it also shows Lechter was willing to kill Osborne should he ever stray from his path.
But for the most part I see CS4 and Reverie separately.
>>533668791Elaine is defending her MANS from that homewrecking whore!
>>533662937Falcom's always had the issue. The difference is that they established a baseline fanbase of 50k loyal drones who'll suck up their diarrhea, and so we're not at a point where they're going to copy-paste the same game FOUR times and have you pay full price for the same exact assets yet again.
Falcom cultivated this. Fans accepted it. It is what it is. Most of the drones will keep sucking up the pools of diarrhea, but that fanbase will decline over time.
>>533670490Cs4 does not explain lecters role and motivation for ironbloods. Cs4 explains lecters role in the plan of twilight and about his thoughts on milliums death and not letting it be in vain. But we donโt learn much about lecter himself there and his thoughts on Osborne. Reverie we do. Like I said both games are needed together but if you look at cs4 by itself then it needed to flesh out characters a bit more. I do think some characters are better than others though like Musse and Ashe and altina
>>533672054Wait, I thought Lechter and the Ironbloods were all in with Osborne since CS3 since they knew he was basically pulling a Lelouch. Reverie mostly expands upon Osborne telling Lechter to find his place in the world alongside him. IIRC him and Claire are basically suicidal, and Rufus is a nihilist without purpose, and he takes advantage of those insecurities to make them do his bidding, but deep down he actually does care for them or something.
I mean, we don't really need an exposition from the Ironbloods and why they follow Osborne - we had 4 games to get them and never got them til Reverie, but it was understood they got what Osborne wanted to do.
Plus, we do see Claire get recruited by Osborne in 3, and Lechter's recruitment pretty much mirrors hers exactly.
but i could be wrong, idk lol
I don't even know why they brought the Courageous back in CS4, the witch village was a perfectly fine hub.
>>533675186CS4 is essentially CS2.5 which is why it recycles most ideas from that game
Same with how CS3 was CS1.5
>>533675102But back in Sky 3rd Lechter said he might not remain loyal forever, but he remained loyal forever so this clearly means the writers are shit as everyone knows might is a synonym for certainly
>>533675102Cs3 finale is when the ironbloods figure out Osbornes plan. What Iโm saying is that cs4 we didnโt get to know lecter and his stance on Osborne as much as we should have but reverie does fix this which is good. Cs3 we learn about lecters past which is good too. Cs3 did good job with protags and antags. What Iโm trying to tell you is why cs4 gets some of the criticism it gets from its approach. The game still has its stuff that contributes to the narrative
>>533675389Games after CS2 were written by random outsourced people and completely new in-house writers, haha...
>>533675947better than whoever worked on zero and azure haha
>>533676291Haha, not really since the first 5 games in the series are generally considered the only good ones...
>>533676370by a loud minority who has to keep repeating it constantly and constantly because they are jealous that CS sells more. I wont even judge trails based on arcs I think judging by game is a better metric. Like SC better than FC or CS3 and CS1 are better than CS2 and CS4 or Kuro 1 and Kai are better than kuro 2
Uncle laughed out of the general again
>>533676569fufu, how pathetic
>>533677623Been here since 2017 and I've never heard of "Uncle." Is this another one of Schizua, aka patchfag's personalities?
>>533676291Zero and Azure have the best writing in the series, thoever
If you play any Falcom games then you are a pedo
>>533676569Fc is the most boring game in the series, I'd rather play Kuro 2 again unironically.
>Kuro 2 and Kai were developed in parallel
>Falcom only finalized the script for kai 2 at the start of this year
Yeah... I'm thinking Kai 2 will either come out half assed next year or falcom will delay it to 2027 (raughs)
>>533682117what a shit opinion lol
is ys x proud nordics new music posted anywhere
What was added in Proud Nodicks? Did they fix any of the garbage music
wtj
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love renny
We're never ever getting a game like Xanadu Next again right
>>533683726is it true afterall, /fg/?
>>533684203Still can't believe they didn't really push a closer friendship with Rean and Jusis but instead, Rean fag'd himself with Crow. Rean and Jusis made more sense as bffs.
>>533684748It's all in the eye of the beholder, and your eyes lust for Crow's cock
>>533684748cs1 and cs2 did a good job at it. Plus reverie we got to see jusis saying farewell to ishmelga rean. Honestly I would have wanted more friendship moments but Im happy with what we got considering the focus on crow.
>>533671415They found a golden goose with Kiseki. People will accept 100 hour games about nothing, and the company completely abandoning their non-Trails output, and their most prolific current day composer getting *actively worse* with each game, and the JDK Band concerts becoming events that are better off ignoring, all because they hope against hope that their sunk cost attachment to the characters will amount to anything
how many times is this guy going to repeat his speech
I like how Altina opens her mouth
>>533684945i felt that after CS1 they never got that much focus on their friendship again, and to add insult to injury post CS2 Patrick seemed to be the default friend Rean has and it feels like something written for Jusis or that Jusis would have been better at.
because even if it doesn't happen super often, I feel Rean has a muh Crow moment in every game and really no other Class VII member, male or female, has that distinction
>>533685808>Repeat his speechShouldn't that be catnip to a Kiseki fan
not when the speech amounts to "I'm so depressed everything Falcom related sucks which is why I spend my time on a Falcom general"
>>533685832Jusis gets the big race and duel with Rean.
Van and Judith have funny chemistry. Almost makes me want her to be the one to win. But their friendship is also very good, so I'm fine with it
>>533685832crow is the deuteragonist thats why he gets those things and hes the antagonist as well so thats why theres a focus on him in CS2 its by story design. Patrick is friends with Rean because they stayed at school together while class 7 graduated early and he helped out rean during his second year. CS2 does a good job with rean and jusis imo with their duel and Rean motivating jusis to decide his path himself. Jusis literally was dependent on Rean for his growth so its not like falcom forgot rean and jusis bond.
But yea I agree CS3 and CS4 did decrease that besides the reverie moment I mentioned
Rean, Jusis, Fie, Emma, Crow, and Millium. These characters should have been the only ones in Class VII.
>>533687159taking out alisa is crazy considering alberich exists. by that logic you should take out fie if your willing to take out alisa. machias is important for the reformist side being too antinoble being a bad sentiment to have. but yea laura and elliot I agree with they didnt need to be there
>>533687254It got rid of all the bad characters like Alisa, Laura, Elliot, and Sara.
Glad you aren't in charge
>Kevin already trying to get Nadia and Swin to fuck off right from the start
Kek
>>533686319>>533686686the duel thing was forced imo
felt like it was done for unnecessary "will Jusis choose to side with the nobles or class VII" thing
not saying Crow's focus in CS2 is unwarranted, but the games really want us to think the 50 mira thing is much deeper than it actually is.
>>533687452Alisa just isn't an enjoyable character which is enough for me to cut her. Machias I do like but 4 standard party members + 2 later on is enough
>>533687747Im not telling you its good or bad Im just responding to you saying that Rean and jusis didnt get much after CS1 by putting examples of stuff from CS2.
For the crow stuff I wasnt interested in the 50 mira thing I focused more on their rivalry and Crow making Reans decision about whether to work for cayanne more conflicting. Theres more to crow than the 50 mira stuff but I didnt like crow too much or think he was interesting in CS3 and CS4. CS1 and CS2 hes decent. His backstory is a good way to setup osbornes reign
>>533688289Reminder that textbox is mistranslated.
>>533687993azure had 6 characters but barely any build up for noel and hidden rixia and wazy backstory for a final bonding event. Jrpg standard is 8 or 9 characters you can do it. Falcom failed but it doesnt mean thats its not possible to do. Falcom even added new class 7 which put the nail in the coffin for some old class 7. Dont blame the cast size, blame falcom for not handling some characters well. your solution wont automatically make things better
do you ever do anything other than moan
>>533688573do you do anything other than whine
>>533688186>Im not telling you its good or bad Im just responding to you saying that Rean and jusis didnt get much after CS1 by putting examples of stuff from CS2.sure lol, but you just proved my point. a horse race/duel and following Lloyd around to reach a cutscene - not a lot, cs1 did the bulk of rean and jusis bonding AND having people like you and i find it significantly more meaningful that his friendship with Crow or any other dude from CVII
>>533688856I mean CS1 is an introduction game Rean has more one on one bonding because hes trying to get to know them because he just met them and is finding a way to get some class members to get along or find a common ground. They are not going to repeat things that were done already in CS1. Like I said earlier Rean literally inspired Jusis to shake off his hesitation and have him join them. Jusis even admits that Rean has the ability to shake off his hesitation thats a showcase of the buildup of their friendship. Even the bonding events they share in CS2 shows their friendship. Yes its less than CS1 but its not like its nonexistant. And I did say CS3 and CS4 it wasnt there
>>533686686CS2 should have had the noble students actually go to war instead of that gay little episode in Trista. I get the intent is to show that theyโre still just kids and theyโve been dragged into this but they could have still done the same by having them serve alongside their houses. The Jusis thing was cool because there actually was the possibility of a nasty split
>>533687452Alberich was invented to make Alisa relevant (TRVKE)
>>533690105people talk about falcom games and it bothers you? Would you rather doom about them instead?
>>533690160My point on Alisa wasnt about her relevancy it was the hypocrisy other anon made about getting rid of her but keeping fie.
The jusis thing was cool, I get wanting the civil war to be more serious I agree. But I guess they did the patrick stuff to follow up on his development of not being a snobby dude anymore and showing because of thors commoners and nobles can get along with a common purpose of becoming the foundation or some stuff. But I know some fans dont like the whole "arise o youth thing" and think its cringe. If a fan didnt mind that then it made more sense to them/ Its preference at the end of the day. CS2 is one of the least liked games regardless
You're not talking, you're trying to impose your opinion while belittling his
>>533690160nah, being a reinford made her relevant
really, it's an issue with the game's cast: how much their family, often immediate family, is important to either erebonia, the legends of dreichels, or connected to the curse/DKs
>Agnes resolved herself to cast off her humanity to save the world
>everyone joins in for the Skype call
>everyone says that Agnes doesn't need to bear this burden alone and that Van will definitely fuck her one day (with Elaine listening to this)
>Kevin, Rean, crow, Rufus and Altina awkwardly sit there not saying a word
Haha... that's our falcom what a way to ruin such a tragic scene
>>533691132I mean elaine is fully aware agnes loves van I really dont think she gives a shit she actually likes agnes a lot
>>533691553Yeah but it's still weird how everyone keep encouraging Agnes to not give up on Van even though the world was ending and everyone knew about Elaine's feelings for Van as well
Also I kinda expect Gramheart to be pissed at Van for not fucking Agnes haha
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Cold Steel is the only arc worth replaying desu
>>533692013>everyone keep encouraging Agnes to not give up on Van even though the world was endingStuff like this is why I think Agnes is the canon end. It's a love story with time travel a la Steins;Gate or very similar to what Xenogears did with Fei and Elly.
If it wasn't Elaine would not have been so blatantly sidelined. Or so I really, really hope. Because Kondo and the writing team would have to be retarded to the most popular character of the arc, Agnes, dirty or fucking up their best love story since Joshua and Estelle.
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>Falcom knowing what they're writing
>grown up men being this invested in teen romance drama
>>533693046they just wanna see the bland bondie get demon dick. It's understandable
>>533692749>their best love story since Joshua and Estelle.Damn, the bar is really that low after Xbell and Ereboner.
>>533693462counting the days till the Calvard arc ends and they finally leave
>>533693713Yeah, I think that Agnes and Van was at least ok in terms of development. Ellie is fucking trash, Alisa WHO? Cumdoll has no reason to exist aside from pandering to pedos and sell the merch. So yeah Agnes clearly has a huge advantage by simply being relevant and having her love confession dedicated chapter
>>533694395zip it roastie
>Anusfags still pretending that their NTRfodder is somehow better than the previous NTRfodders
>>533694395I dont know why you care that ellie and alisa didnt work. crossbell and erebonia werent designed to be romance centric games. Using them as examples of failed romance doesnt work because that wasnt the intent. Its just for players to choose their waifus a minigame or side content thing for fun
I'm not even an Agnesfag but she's easily better than the whores from cuckbell and cold shit. Only brownoid subhuman contrarians will think otherwise
there it is, it got angry about people having different opinions again
>>533695335getting mad for being factually incorrect. Your consistent at watching speed runs of the games instead of playing them
the romance in calvard doesn't work simply because we dunno what Van thinks most of the time and there's no development on his side, they had a nice thing going on with Elaine in kuro 1 but we know how that turned out
Kondo wants to milk the love triangle and keep van uninterested in romance till the last game because of harem
>>533688401If Falcom stuck with old VII they would have gotten better content during CS3/4. A smaller core cast is best. Emma could have easily had Alberich as her father.
nigga so angry he's barely coherent lmaooo
It's all fun and games until cold shit eaters start speaking arabic in r/syria
>>533696090I mean alberich killed her mother I think there was potential that didnt require him to be her father. Kinda sucked alberich and emma didnt get unique dialogue for each other considering he killed her mom but I guess emma found out after alberichs death anyways. The other anon talking about alisa being a reinford is prety relevant though. Im glad that calvard arc at least is not adding more cast to ASO for kai. Calvard arcs cast is looking good so far
>>533693000JK goddess
It's that simple
>>533695726Elaine is still pretty popular I can see falcom putting elaine and van together. Its hard to tell. I dont think it will be pick your girl though. I think there will be canon with either elaine or agnes depending on what they do with rene and his in theory love for elaine
>>533696627It's funny how a design and initial showing can carry a character so hard
dude it's gonna be a fucking harem
if in some distant planet retard kondo actually commits to Elaine or Agnes canon I'll post kondo photo covered in my cum
>>533696627Also "pretty" ? Agnes barely beat her despite kai focusing much on her, that's how popular she was.
>>533697008Um no? The poll said that Elaine barely beat rean while Agnes had the majority of votes
>>533696830voice actor too. chiwa sato is incredible made her sad moments in kuro 1 hit harder. Same with harwood sometimes a VA just carries a character hard. falcom or the voice studio made the right choice with their VA's
>>533697409The margin between Agnes and Elaine iirc wasn't even 100s of votes
>>533696418Kai 2 is the prime opportunity for that depending on if it's the final.game or not. As for Alisa being a Reinford, I feel like that would have been better left to a commoner version of Patrick instead of Alisa because she really did nothing with being the Reinford heir.
My mother had me tested as a child, I have diagnosed autism and a double digit IQ
My favourite Kiseki waifu is Agnรจs Claudel!
I started helping out with Kefin PS2's translation, ask me anything.
>>533698380do you know Japanese?
>>533695174>you can't criticize the things cold steel fucks up if the focus wasn't always on those things kek @ reanhermanos
Poll
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>>533697409You have a good memory.
>>533698380Why aren't you giving it to Geofront?
Rean haters' strongest argument:
>you're from a different country haha
>>533698713its not "haters" plural its just one schizo whos baby raging that people talk about another arc besides sky
>>533698904honestly didn't wanna believe a single person would post this much about someone they hate but it makes sense
>muh sky out of nowhere
"hurr csfags are chill, we stay in our lane not bothering anyone durr"
Reanspics are playing the victim again lol?
every single community is united in mocking you and your Rean Derangement Syndrome
must suck being you lmao imagine losing this badly to a fictional character
>>533699242NTA but it's always the same Skyschizo.
>>533698543Whoever was translating it initially confused ๆๆฅ for yesterday, that should tell you how good the rest of it is looking like.
>>533698689I'd rather take White Witch from them and also do the PC-98 version of LoH4.
>>533699639haha...
are you TLAnon? just a feeling I got haha
>>533697730That said Elaine's characterization is still shit. Insane how they fumbled her so hard. I don't know why they didn't let her leave the Bracers
>>533700036her second connect event in kai was really good though glad they started adding voice acting for both van and the connect event person in some lines
>>533700036Why would she leave bracers? The problem with Elaine is that falcom has practically dropped her as a character after kuro 1. And now Kondo finally talks about how Van, Elaine and Kincaid relationship will play a huge role in kai 2. Honestly the whole Calvard arc is so uneven, because they gave us so many set-ups for the main cast in kuro 1 but didn't move them or explore for 2 games
>>533700448Did you forget ? She wanted to leave the Bracers after that situation with her family. I wanted that to happen, cause it'd free her up and they could probably take her characterization in an interesting way.
come to think of it, an Ex-Bracer protag would be kind of kino, even better if he did a reverse Sara/Joshua and went Bracer->Jaeger or Bracer->Ouroboros
>>533699940Nah, someone else; somewhat of a "big" name within the fandom, so to speak. I'd like to help out translating older Falcom games.
Love my beautiful, cute, loving, supportive, caring, and adorable wife
>>533700687Oh you mean the conflict with her father? I honestly forgot about that part. I kinda wish we had more flashbacks or the actual playable section with Van, Elaine and Kincaid as kids or teenagers. Honestly the whole adult protagonist shtick was pretty half assed by falcom anyway, so if they started the first chapter of Kuro 1 as Van being a kid and properly showing his relationship and connection with Elaine and the RAT I'd actually give more shit about their drama, but yeah the biggest problem is kuro 2 and Kai not exploring their past and present relationship, and you only get a few teases in the connect events
>>533701679Yeah, it was the reason she decided to leave the Bracers. And yeah they didn't explore their past enough, only brief mentions.
>>533603157>>533685831I would like to put something in Altina's mouth
>>533651047>>533656891Altina sexo
Is that shit even allowed? I remember that Utawarerumono Mask of Deception had the ass spanking scene of Anju censored in the US version because physical discipline against children in media is strictly regulated.
>>533702902I think theres a difference between slapping face and ass spanking.
>>533700886Isn't one of Obahan's sluts just that?
>>533703038I think slapping face is more savage. As spanking is at least cute and funny. Face slapping is just child abuse.
>>533691132Why is Shizuna even there, like does she even gives a shit about it?
>>533703359This made me realize that Shizuna doesn't have a relationship with any character other than Van, Rean, and the Ikaruga crew.
>>533696627>Elaine is still pretty popular I can see falcom putting elaine and van together.Japan is 50/50 on the Elaine/Agnes camps, so it will massively enrage one camp if you cater to the other. It would be basically company suicide if you do that shit in Japan. Might even put Elaine's or respectively Agnes' seiyu in danger (reminder of the Tales of Zestiria drama), Kondo knows that very well.
>>533703965I forgot that we have VA drama over politics and japan has drama over shipping and idol preservation. The VA world in any country is awful
>>533696627>Elaine is still pretty popularThis still gets me. She's absurdly popular, so much so that she beat fucking Rean. And this is while she does NOTHING at all for 2 games. Falcom absolutely will squander her again in the next game since the writers are fucking retarded and prefer to focus on garbage like Cao and Swin and Nadia's slice of life hijinks instead.
>>533703604I mean I dont see that as a bad thing at least the ASO themselves are bonded together thats what matters. The games would be like 10 games an arc if you forced characters to have relationships with everyone unless you did the three houses route and had bonding events with combinations but trails has more characters than three houses
>>533703604haha...
maybe that's she needs, chud
>>533701408Brandish 4 TL when?
>>533703604Shizuna hangs out with Judith and Elaine in Garten. There's a sense of familiarity in the dialog but their development is mostly offscreen. Shizuna and Elaine are frenemies. There's banter between them in Kai final dungeon. I think it was Elaine making backhanded compliments towards Shizuna.
>>533704661>She's absurdly popular, so much so that she beat fucking Rean.What poll?
>>533704661Cao is the best character in Kiseki, to be fair thoughever
>>533702902the face tita makes after the slap makes me want total fagate death
>>533703965it also depends if kondo wants to take western thought into account as well. He is aware that in the west van being with agnes is frowned upon and the gap in releases are reducing so he might factor in west in deciding elaine could be canon. If I were him I would just let player choose between elaine and agnes. People in west hate the harem but hey what works works
youknow wha t
elainey sould have been protagg of calvard arc
there i fukcing saidd it
>>533704661Twisting info I see.
In the official Dengeki poll for Kai she is #2. Agnes is #1
https://dengekionline.com/article/202501/31893
>>533704661Beating Rean outside of his own arc isn't a hard thing to do. Machias beat Estelle in the CS4 poll yet no one would say he's more popular than her. Agnes and Elaine aren't giga popular, they're just the only characters that didn't flop.
>>533705691But does he want to kill Kiseki in Japan for selling its soul to westoids? I highly doubt it. Agnes is still #1 in Japan after Kai. You would be insane if you make Van X Elaine canon now. Also the main sales come from Chinks. Western sales are overestimated here on the general.
>>533701408Based Hatsuu giving back
>>533705724Nah, sounds like trannyshit.
>>533703359She's literally an honorary spriggan at this point. Kuro 2 act 3 in particular established this and the she joins in Van route 1 of Kai
>>533706649But enough about your posting history.
>>533696627Falcom won't show the middle finger to fans of the other girls. And with how popular Jolda became there is even a large fanbase which wants her to end up with Van.
>>533706649nah fucck van he failde
>>533704939I'd give my left nut for dat shyt.
>>533706568She only did editing and didn't/couldn't translate jack.
>>533706745He really is just a copy of Rean, down to the loli surprise romance 3 games into his arc
>>533703359>>533705415>>533706729she got interested about spriggan work in the Langport chapter of Kuro 2 and then she basically joined for the whole act 3 where she bonded with most of the cast outside of Van and that's where her soft rivalry with Elaine started. kuro 2 has shit ton of problems but it does serve as a bridge game for kai and makes Elaine, Renne and Shizuna (also Swin and Nadia) getting closer to the main cast.
>>533706745Imagine if Van rejects both Elaine and Agnes to go after Jorda
>Agness main problem is not that she is too young, but she is actually too old
nursing on hatsuu's tits..
>van going for the 14 years old Jolda when he didn't have the balls to accept Agnes confession and got tricked by her school uniform
Yeah no... falcom are a bunch of moralfag plus they're probably aware of the western perception of this, Kondo admitted he was surprised western fans prefer Elaine over Agnes
>>533707546This but Reanasis' perky little nipples
The true love square on Kuro 4 will be between Yume, Jorda and Mare
>>533707863>Kondo admitted he was surprised western fans prefer Elaine over AgnesPart of the reason for that is hacktsuu, of course
I just realized that Shizuna is the mix between Juna (female rehash of the previous protagonist who is in love with the current protagonist) and Rixia (finding her home with Van and co. where she can be herself and not Ikaruga's vice commander or the divine blade).
Hatsuu killed my kitten was I was a young boy
I'll never forgive her for what she did to Mr Pawsitive
>>533708416yea thats kind of the problem when release dates come together then localizers start giving their opinion and advice on the story to the original writers. I wish the west wasnt catching up for that reason and falcom taking another 2 years for the next kai game
Disgaea 7 and horizon switch 2 LE are still at 100% stock
have there been any new aibro posts since 96
>>533708516ReaLlo posters used to hold so much power here back when those scans of Juna having brown hair in the concept art surfaced
>>533708141i'd rather lick hers than nurse on em
>>533711342Now the only one left that cares is Reanafemanon
>>533711960Why are you ignoring the posters commenting on your perky nips
how is this still fun to you
The other girls left, she is queen of /fg/
games are fun
even calvard arc
I had more fun with kuro 2 than with cs3 and 4
I had more fun with my recent bout of diarrhea than with the calvard arc
>palys Daybreak
Seriously? This is the "good game" in the Calvard arc? Not a single person actually sounds like a person.
Why cold shit eaters always have diarrhea?
>>533711960duvalie thinks this is improper...
We've been force-fed 3 undercooked games in a row
>>533713165you played fan translation or ifficial localization?
>>533713165You sound like a daybreak character yourself
>>533713165seeing as the entire purpose of the arc is to mock, humiliate and vilify white people (admitted by Kondo btw) it makes total sense that the NPCs have to be written bizarrely to achieve this
>>533708516Van and Lloyd need to make cute hapas with Shizuna and Rixia
>>533713465Thereโs your problem
In particular I just had the displeasure of watching the scene where they accuse Professor Callaghan. It's like the worst written thing I've ever read.
>>533625158>Ouroboros weren't planned initially >puts them into a fucking side dungeon >puts GM on the game cover
>>533714149Remember how that whole plot line started because his former gay lover was mad about how Melchior stole Callaghan away?
>>533713518so you like rean as a bottom? zamn..
>>533712406Reanafemanon are you embarrassed by the attention you get now?
>>533714602Well she likes Rean as female, so...
>>533713868no that wasnt anon that was me correcting my misspelling of official. anon hasnt responded yet
>>533714282grim garten did not need to be freaking 9 floors. 5 or 6 is sufficient. the novartis stuff isnt bad anguises have always been more interesting than enforcers with the exception of loewe because they actually have motives and goals
The fact that
>>533714149fits into
>>533713591perfectly even though he didn't know is amazing
I stole Kai from CLE and booted it up
>Reans so fucking cinematic
what the fuck
>>533706025we can talk about overall popularity when falcom will make a general kiseki poll which will probably happen next year for falcom's 45th anniversary
The only thing that's cool about Rean in Kai is ... him showing up, having cool animations, and dueling Shizuna and YKF and neither of them even conclude.
Complete and utter filler
>>533718116That's what fans want actually
I had read you get McBurn last in the TRC, but I got him midway thru the 5th Stratum.
>>533718116Yet still has more purpose and character progression than Van in Kuro 2 & Kai tho.
>>533719324>Yet still has more purposeNot really, achieving his true tachi is some vague ass shit
>character progression If you're talking about shounen wank power ups then yeah, other than that he's still the same faggot as in cs3 just more confident. Van actually undergone a change in his worldview and certain relationships.
you retards compare rean to van whose arc isn't even over, I don't remember rean in cs3 having a real purpose or progression, route shit just completely fucked over spriggans due to the difference in players perspective and pacing
>>533718116The majority of Kai is filler. Van's route is mostly spent running around doing stupid Bracer jobs, Rean's route is almost completely irrelevant, and Kevin's is CS3 levels of bad complete with character assassination and making him into a joke jobber.
always funny to see someone try to defend Van as a character
they will start very strongly and be really emotional at tearing down other characters... and then they reach the part where they have to speak positively about Van and they have nothing
a worldview change in 3 games that's wild
>>533720308ummmmmm
swin and nadia are really strong, okay!?
>>533719948Did you skip hajimari?
>>533719948the way you talk about Rean or just trails in general just shows people like you are not worth talking to because you cant actually give good criticism that makes sense. Its why Rean haters are the most annoying people to converse with because you cant converse with them. Reans arc isnt about "being more confident" lol theres more to it. Even people that have Rean as their least favorite protags can at least see he has an arc thats more than "being more confident"
>>533722110Vannies have a massive inferiority complex to Rean. This isnโt news anon.
>What was that?
>Caelus! quick, this way!
>are those... \[placeholder]!?
*Caelus pulls baseball bat out of thin air*
>Chrysos Heirs Nova, our duty is to stop \[placeholder]
*kills enemies*
>wew, they're unconscious for now, lets move!
>March the Evernight yell: RIGHT!!!!
*make it to destination*
>It's it's \[characters name]... No it's \[Characters Title]!
>Well if it isn't the Chrysos Heirs Nova!
>What are you doing here!?
>We're here for a special mission of sorts. Information I can't share with you.
>Well we'll just beat it out of you!
>CHRYSOS HEIRS NOVA, MOVE OUT!
>RIGHT!
*battle Over*
*Caelus kneeling and panting with his friends*
>No... They're too strong... I'm going to have to use... THAT.
>No Caelus you can't!
>HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>That won't be necessary
>Wait... is that..! \[Edo Star character name placeholder]!!!!!!
*is able to drive back the enemy like it was nothing, the same enemy Caelus and co couldn't stop*
>Well that's enough fun for today
>!?
>WAIT! WHAT IS STELLARON HUNTER AFTER!?
>Haha... wouldn't you like to know.
> Metaphor comes out
>"omg it's the biggest game ever, haha go woke get rich"
>"hahahaha it sold 1 million in like a day it's gonna take the world by storm"
>Announcement made a couple months ago: It sold 2 million total
>For comparison P5R sold over 7 mil
Reanbros will eat a literal pile of feces as long as it has their self insert's face on it kek
And Kuso Eaters will smugly slurp down gallons of diarrhea so long as Rean is not involved in the shitting process rofl
>>533723461Kai wouldโve sold an ez 70k with Rean but the Van nerf was too massive.
>>533722632I mean its possible to like both Rean and Van without using each other to compare. Plus Vans arc isnt over yet so the jury is still deciding on that. Problem is some trails fans have to microcompare arcs or characters each time they play a new trails games without trying to see what the game has to offer on its own merits. Van fans should be able to tell why they like van without needing to criticize another character.
>>533724171xseed rean was a savage Id argue his character got way more changed or just as changed as estelle and van for english releases
>>533722398you really have to stop letting others opinions bother you so much. just like you always remind people, some dudes can think Rean is the best written kiseki MC and love him, and some can think he is an irredeemable character and they hate him
don't reply to me, just take the post to heart
I personally like Rean, Van, and Lloyd.
I do like Rean the most though.
>>533724204Van fans constantly live in the shadow of Rean. So every minor accomplishment is some slight to Rean & every failure (which are many) is some deflection about Rean.
>>533724637i agree
van arkride is the shittiest protag ever created
>>533724637you cant be on 4chan and expect people to be positive and not converse. thats like asking water not to be wet. At least the general is talking about the games unlike how it was in the past week
The timeline in kai 2 will be wacky, Van, Lloyd and Rean will be 14 year old shotas and they'll be groomed by 24 year old KeA, Musse and Yume
>>533728815Okay Vanny Tranny
>>533724357Also Chiplock and Uchiyama are two very different Reans
>>533718116>the only cool thing about rean is>proceeds to describe the coolest parts of the gamekino
glad you agree
>>533730650thats true but its common for dub actors to stray from their jp counterpart. like estelle in the remake and vaan from ff12. Even dub van from daybreak sounds like chainsmoker compared to jp van
Come on guys this isnโt what Market Manager Otto sacrificed himself for.
cant believe they killed Otto
poor guy
>>533735264https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg_i3Ra-j-0
>>533735667soul, playing cs2 in 2019. simpler times
>>533735264Otto...the one victim of the civil war...
>All Trails Lead Here: Paths from across Zemuria intertwine with higher stakes than ever before as the Trails series enters its final chapter!
haha... even nisa are lying now
>>533739456Kondo taught them well
>>533724656Rean or...girlRean?
>>533739456Haha, it's completely arbitrary so they aren'ty lying about the final chapter part. Look at this garbage Kuso arc. 4 fucking games. It's still ongoing after half a decade. The final chapter could go on for a decade or more.
>>533742015she should be flattened
>>533742283Reanasis probably fantasizes about being the center of a Rean/a sandwich sometimes. The creamy filling between them.
I HATE KONDO FOR WHAT HE DID TO ME
>>533743068why creamy tho
pussies get wet. not creamy kek
>>533743708Creamy from all the Rean cum she wants in there
>cant eveebn make the o bvious jkoke of rean cream
lol disappointingg
...Reanasis? Is that you? Are you drunk?
Are you really drunk or did you just get so horny over the idea of getting double teamed by Rean you couldn't type right?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OT-GCx6VB-E
why didnt they give him a scottish accent
>rean giving the preorder now speech at the end
lmfao
cold steel 6
>>533748821They already gave Letty a French accent, and old Kevin had apparently a Bostian accent.
Kondo said if Sky 1st flops theyโll skip to the CS remake.
>>533752920This is the best news I heard all year
Zamn cold shit eating brownoid reanjeets really took over this place. Grim...
>>533725843Get prepared to do all the side quests again, because kai 2 will be a repeat of kai with Van fixing the timeline.
>>533755468i swear to god i will never play another falcom game for the rest of my life if kai 2 is just 50% van doing side quests around edith AGAIN
>>533755674>is just 50% van doing side quests around edith AGAINI'm sure he'll do side quests in the past as well. We'll practically travel between timelines
>>533756132as long as its not in fucking edith then fine
>>533756298i don't even want to see edith from 100 years ago
i dont even want to it from 1000 years ago
i dont want to see it AT ALL
>>533715090Aside from partially ruining the flow of the game, I didn't hate grim garten since the combat was really enjoyable and unlike marchen garten you actually get rewarded with lore drops and decent items. The problem is the grim garten design itself, falcom just replaced overworld maps with it. Imagine if we could actually travel between cities and do random side quests along the road instead of them being shoved down your throat every time haha...
Schizos:
>played Kuro with a shoddy patch and Dasucky Oh-no
>rushed through all 3 games so they can shitpost about them on /fg/
>hate the Calvard arc
Healthy people:
>played Daybreak with a fun localisation and Damien Haas and AmaLee
>took their time to savour and enjoy each game
>love the Calvard arc
One day you'll learn that it pays off to be patient.
>>533770328it is quite interesting how kiseki conviently became le worst series in le world when retards started playing it exclusively through mtl patches
Your shitty transfictionified "games" are not canon, you didn't play Kiseki if you picked the Xseed and NISA versions and western voice actors can't voice act for shit in foreign media. Simple as.
Better than the fanfiction 3 anons came up with after working on an MTL patch for no monetary gain. Can't spell gullible without u!
>>533773037It's based because it changed the original script to not be woke.
There will be 6 routes in kai 2
1 - Lapis keeps randomly time travelling and can't control it initially, bringing kevin and picnic squad along with her. They try to repair history that got changed by Laejarn and Agnes and do everything they can do to ensure Agnes gets born in this new timeline.
2 - The youngest General in Erebonia's history, Rean wakes up in his room and feels like something isn't quite right with the new timeline then suddenly gets a flood of memories of the previous timeline. He talks to his mentor Otto, who is the chancellor then decides to travel to Edith in disguise to find Van.
3 - Estelle, the Divine Blade of Space realises something with her unclouded eye that something is wrong with this timeline and confers with her girlfriend Anelace, they mediate and then suddenly gets a flood of memories from the previous timeline. They both decide to infiltrate Ouoroboros to get Joshua, Loewe and Renne out of the society.
4- Gรฉrard Dantes, who's just a normal guy living in an apartment in Edith wakes up sweating, he keeps getting dreams of being an evil villain but doesn't understand why so he decides to give his best friend Joachim Gunther a call...
5- Lloyd keeps getting a nasty feeling in the pit of his stomach aa if hes doomed Zemuria but doesn't understand why and goes to his job at Crossbell News where he just writes medicore puff pieces for the newspaper.
6- Van is just an average C ranked bracer and he's doing bracer requests in Edith
>>533778441>>533779265There will be 0 routes in Kai 2 but Kevin and Rean will get some playable segments.
>>533755468Route slop killed Kai for me, gonna be honest. Said it often already, switching to another route takes ALL the momentum off the sails. It reached the point that I had to take a two days break whenever a route switch occured because it felt like playing three fucking Kiseki games at the same time and switching between them whenever it got slightly exciting. Who the fuck at Falcom thought this shit was a good idea? Now I'm on a two week break (game wants me to do Rean's route in that onsen town - forgot the name) but my motivation to switch routes yet again is gone. Fuck off Kondom.
>>533770328Why would I want to play Kiseki localized by trannies and voiced by trannies anon?
First time Sen player here, I picked all of Towa's scenes in CS1 because I heard that you got bonus dialogue with your favorite character in CS2 if you imported your saved data, but I'm almost at the end of the game and it doesn't feel like there's been any so far; is there a way to check what scenes change and by how much?
>>533781961Refer to the first word of the post
>>533770328>Healthy people:- localization puts in mentally ill proun shit
- censors shit because it wants to protect fictional children and women
- voiced by faggots and trannies
Nice gaslight attempt NISA employee-kun.
>>533713591Nah, the entire point is to spread tranny and faggot propaganda.
>>533781080It's still hard to tell, Kondo did say the system of Kai 2 will be a bit different, but it's just Kondom talking out of his ass again. Either we'll continue getting routes or it'll be similar to CS4 where the perspective will change for a short period of time but without the route slop.
>>533772984Actually cute and canon. Elliot x Mint is also cute and canon.
Just declared to my crush and she friendzoned me haha it's like I truly am Agnes now I have to destroy the world haha
>>533784153I would put 0 stock into that. It's just another vague Kondo-ism where he vaguely promises *something* will happen or be different without actually saying it so that he cant be called out on it.
>>533771390y-you're not supposed to point that out...
>>533772612They're canon, your MTL troonlation isn't. Cope with that however you must.
>call it Liber(a)l
>it's literally an idyllic dream country that works flawlessly
>have a just and fair Queen loved by the people
>the next in line is a fair and just Princess also loved by the people
>the only male in the royal family is a fat clown manchild everyone mocks and belittles
>the woman in charge of the cool army is badass and respected by everyone
>the male in charge of the lame army is a literal Hitler Youth misogynist that thinks he knows better
>lame army of nazis throws a literal coup and gets destroyed by the power of femme logic and compassion
>every single male in the arc ends up neutered and apologizing for existing
And you have a problem with Kuro LMFAO
I pick Calvard because it's the only country that has toilets
>>533790626nooooooooo but wypipo bad!!!11
>>533793454this but unironically. this thread is the perfect example of that, haha...
>>533790626Why do you think Blackrock paid Falcom to remake it?
>>533794635it's full of shitskin jeets like you thoughbeit
I wise we have assholes like Schmidt rating this gourmet shit. Imagine them giving some random cake a 1* rating while spewing hate
The funniest thing about Van knowing all these people is that I bet the stories of how he came to know some of them would be something interesting to learn. Instead they just give it an off hand mention and then just immediately zoom past it.
Like oh you met Kevin and teamed up on a mission that involved Mille Mirage? Oh that sounds interesting what was the story behind that? Oh? There's none? You've already moved on? Okay.
>>533795459calm down cumskin, don't go shoot up a walmart kek
>>533797364Yes Van has a lot of interesting connections, but falcom never explored them. They just give you the fact that Van knows character A because they worked together in the past. I'd honestly rather play a game about Van's past when he was still a newbie spriggan instead of kuso 2 and 3.
https://store.nisamerica.com/products/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-beyond-the-horizon?variant=42117184127024
>It's still 100%
>>533789484what are your pronouns so I can insult you politically correctly
>>533800818They're ESL MTL/is fanfiction
>>533801163kek got his ass
>2 loli reverse groomer NPC's
>Gramheart was groomed by an Epstein loli
>Agnes, while not a loli, is reverse grooming Ban-san
>Ashen is trying her best to reverse groom Cao since she was akid, but he is a snek and it is not working
Why is Calvard like this?
Kondo started as a fan blogposting about Kiseki so every Falcom game is literally fanfiction from the get-go
Once you get hired you're not a fan anymore
also did kondom even do writing
>>533801337I too want to get groomed by a hebe ojousama...
>>533801508He wrote the Sky games, no?
If you win the battle, it's because they were holding back.
If they weren't, it's because you were saved by someone jumping in off screen.
If no one did, they were just testing your resolve.
If they weren't, they actually wanted you to win anyway.
I've never seen a series add so many asterisks to winning any boss battle lmao.
God forbid they try something different
>>533801969Eddy is so lucky...
>>533801337In Kiseki, males don't have sex drives and women must sink their whore clutches in them. And Kiseki LOVES to make younger girls ultra aggressive when their love interest is older
The very first game has Luke trying to impress and romance Estelle
You are WRONG
>>533804338I need to request Estelle AI set getting fucked by a shota....
>girl chaser is actually starting to have girls interested in him (chink movie girl iirc is starting to like him too)
>but is too dumb to realize it
Falcom really likes this trope. Iirc someone from Cold Steel is also like this, with the tsundere sniper and a bitchy glasses girls from OG Thors. Haha...
>>533804072Olivier. Randy. Ash. Aaron.
