#1047 Ultimate Slaying edition
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>opponent activates evenly
>cl2 lancea
Shake my hand
Can I get a QRD on what a fiendsmith deck is? There are multiple variants and I want to know how they generally work or what other variants are meant to do
will runick be playable again when ryzeal drops or will there still be too many malice and lancea tards?
>playing insect deck
>opponent uses lancea
>called by
>opponent uses SECOND lancea
the fact this isn't once per turn is the part that gets me
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>>533611164Fiendsmith isn't a deck, it's an engine. Which basically means it's a collection of cards you put into actual decks to make them better. The closest to a fiendsmith deck is fiendsmith control which is really just fiendsmith + other engines bundled into one slop pile.
Fiendsmith does the same thing in every deck, it makes extra deck monsters (usually desirae or high king caesar) so you have more disruption in addition to whatever your deck puts out normally.
>>533611826>Fiendsmith does the same thing in every deck, it makes extra deck monsters so you have more disruption in addition to whatever your deck puts out normally.That's not entirely true. Decks who run it will also have that as an option for if they already draw a starter for their main engine, but in that case the aim isn't to have more disruption, it's more to put up early negates to protect your combo from hand traps/your opponent's board.
But a lot of decks mainly run it because of its ability to bridge into other archetypes. Like using it to make a level 8 Synchro which will start your Centurion plays if you drew no Centurion cards, or making one of the many rank 4 searchers, or whatever.
A big part of fiendsmith's strength is how versatile it is.
Cool it with the ultimate slayer. I'm dead naming here.
bwahahhahahah he said it again everybody! d-d-hahhahah oh i can't even repeat it, it's so funny!! DEADNAMER!!!!! BWHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
>>533613195no
looks like the gundam tcg but I don't know anything about it so I'm not sure
>>533611826>>533612318What cards are consistently in this engine then? Obviously some of the fiendsmith cards but which ones make the deck "work" and are there any other cards that are used to combo with them in most decks that use fiendsmith?
>>533613195That's clearly Ryzeal Detonator from Yugioh. it's duel masters I think every other modern card game looks the same
>>533611164it's an engine you toss into a deck to supplement a main strategy (usually, at least)
engine is, at minimum:
1 Fabled Lurrie
2 FS (Fiendsmith) Engraver
1 Lacrima the Crimson Tears
1 FS Desirae
1 FS Lacrima
1 (usually 2 or 3) FS Tract
1 FS Sequence
1 FS Requiem
it's not required but people usually run a copy of Agnumday as well
Rextremende is too hard to summon whereas the rest of the engine is a one card combo
>>533613598oh, forgot Moon of the Closed Heaven (turns any two effect monsters into a fiendsmith combo)
there are some other ED monsters people will slot in that fiendsmith can abuse, particularly D/D/D Wave High King Caesar and Necroquip Princess and probably some others that I'm forgetting
>>533613274The standard minimal package is 2x Engraver, 1x Tract, 1x Lacrima Crimson Tears, and one Fabled Lurrie(for the Tract). For the ED it's usually 1x Requiem, 1x Sequence, 1 Lacrima(fusion), and 1 Desirae.
Fiendsmith in Paradise is common but not always ran, as it turns Lacrima's quick effect into an interruption by sending Desirae on their turn. Agnumday is also common since it gives more OTK power and some other upsides. Moon of the Closed Heaven also may as well be a Fiendsmith card, because its only purpose for existence is to be a light fiend you can summon off of any 2 effect monsters to go into Fiendsmith Requiem, but not every deck that runs it wants to do that. Also Necroquip Princess is used for certain combos. Wave High King Caesar or Apollousa are extremely common as a payoff+to protect from Nib before you start your real combo.
With just an Engrave in hand can get you into a link 4, a rank 4, a rank 6, Chaos Angel, a level 8 synchro, a level 10 synchro or other stuff without using your normal summon, so take your pick from the generics as long as you don't mind using a bunch of extra deck space getting there.
>>533614050she is so ugly. wouldn't
>>533614835she's a fiend of course she's ugly
>>533614889there is no logic in this statement. don't try taking down all the fiend with your ugly skank
>>533614835Yeah, Engraver got scammed. Imagine having THIS lusting after you and wanting to partner up to help you fight demons when you could have the little gun-nosed guys from Sanct instead. Extreme downgrade.
>>533615025Not a footfag at all but this is very tasteful.
Mating Pressing Purrely...
>>533611387You really dont get to complain about cards not being once per turn, insectniggerโฆ
>>533610312 (OP)You fucking retard, this is the THIRD #1047 thread, it's actually #1050 btw.
>>533610312 (OP)I forgot the to update edition number like the anon before me. The next one should be 1050
>>533615684Insect is a fair and balanced deck and I will usually die to a single interruption anyway depending on my opening hand
>>533615842Any deck that loops a non once per turn +2 should forever be locked to low rogue power level
>>533615946And that's where it is. If we're being generous in applying the label rogue.
is it somehow a rule that tenpai HAS to open a backrow wipe? it's never even worth it to do anything against them. it's only 4 cards that do that from a 40 card deck and they ALWAYS have it, always.
why even bother try putting a deck against this. because they never ever brick or draw useless cards
>>533611387You see Anon, despite the fact you run Insect and spam effects , you need to remind yourself YGO is full of troons defending a floodgate that hinders a ton of deck.
You see, theyโre so hyper focused on Malice, they forget a ton of decks use Banish either as their main strat or itโs woven into their gameplan.
Why yes, Vaalmonica really needed to be hit with Lancea and being unable to get stacks to play the game, itโs not like it was dogshit to begin with right?
But yeah tons of decks need to banish and the troons will still defend their floodgates because why learn to defeat a deck without a floodgate when they can just be retards and use the floodgate? Itโs to the point I faced a Kash player who used Lancea before using any of his on field effects (Unicorn and Fenrir) and basically gifted me the game. Fucking clown show of a meta.
>>533618213Oh get off your high horse. The entire game is about letting your opponent do as little as possible. If a floodgate does that then so be it. Fuck vaalmonica, fuck whatever other shit you play. Why should I "learn to defeat you properly"? If lancea works, then die. Fucking worm.
>purrely fiendslop mimighoul in one 40 card deck
please god just take this game down. this abomination can't exist in your creation
>>533618826I play into Malice without Lancea and win. If I can do it, everyone else can. Youโre just a little pussy faggot, like the TCG dogs. Pretending theyโre against bad card design and floodgates unless itโs hitting a deck they hate.
Which frankly? Is a mindset much worse than stun faggots because at least you know what theyโre all about from the get go.
>Neither player can activate cards or effects in response to this card's activation.
dumb
>>533618213You should just not play the decks that lose to the floodgate handtrap that everyone is using for this one month if you don't want to put up with losing to it. I shelved my Argostars because of it. No big deal, I can play them later. not scared of deadnamer, if I'm going second I'm probably losing regardless I've been having fun with Mimighoul and laughing when the opponent handrips themselves with Lancea.
I love that Maliss has nothing to fear from banishment, but it's really not that strong a deck, it's heavily dependent on banishing and it has few ways to react during the opponents turn.
>>533619581whats your rank
>>533621773Banishing is still good vs Maliss since their summons from banish are once per turn. You just have to not fire it off randomly. Also it is a very strong deck.
>>533622321Masters. Did rating on and off. I mostly play Branded so itโs by default not a bad deck into most meta.
can punk work in the synchro event? how relevant is that fusion monster they have
>>533621490As said on another response, I play branded, a deck hindered by Lancea but not dead from it. I refuse to play the card anyway. Thanks for giving deck ideas however, this is already much more helpful than people coping about the fact they use a floodgate.
>DetonatorWith the dweller and Scythe ban, Iโll genuinely bring back Tearlaments into that meta.
>>533613195>>533613258>>533613378>>533611813It's Duel Masters. Yu-Gi-Oh, as always, stealing all their ideas from the superior game.
Now I understand why it's CROSSOVER Breakers. Ryzeal is from DueMa, Ryu-Ge is Pokemon TCG, and Maliss is Force of Will
>>533611813>>533612936Ryzeal Detonator looks like piss compared to the DM card. Holy shit.
free map for floo already
>>533624139Only if you free Merrli first.
sex with Sky Striker Aces
>>533624139Only if you free Oak first.
>>533622828The fusion is very important since it's how you cycle through your names getting you to the guy that gets the field spell which then lets you summon the guy you get off of the level 8 synchro to search the trap(and the field also draws 2), and also the guy that lets you fuse is important to get into rotation anyway since he's the one that lets you quick synchro into Amazing Dragon on their turn to bounce 4.
Maybe you can figure some way you'd like to use them as an engine, since you CAN just do like Ze-Amin search Foxy, Foxy summon Deer Note, make some level 8 synchro, but you won't be able to do all the PUNK stuff without Carp.
>dormouse
>called by
>called by
>crossout
yeah sure buddy. have fun sitting there for 5 minutes
I'm glad Blue Eyes is gonna completely disappear soon. What a revolting deck
>>533626139>I am glad โinsert good helmet deckโ is replaced by โmeta warping OP helmet deckโThatโs how you sound right now. Youโll be begging for Blue Eyes to come back. Just like people are begging for snake eyes to come back because it โwasnโt so bad after allโ.
>>533626592Nope. I hate Blue Eyes. I hate the drill the ONLY card keeping it competitive, the drill beam with all my heart.
>>533626592Nope. I hate Blue Eyes. I hate the ONLY card keeping it competitive, the drill beam, with all my heart.
>>533627083Just say you hate drillbeam then. Thatโs much more respectable than hating on Blue Eyes.
Ban Super Starslayer TY-PHON - Sky Crisis
funny how el heckin chinkerino just so happened to start the exact cards to play around mine
How accurate would you say Duel Live represents the state of the game?
I've been watching Duel Live in between games since yesterday and decided to start keeping track of what decks show up in the replays. (Normal Ranked Random)
Here's the top 10 decks so far. Would you say this is an accurate representation of ranked lobbies?
>>533611164FS is basically just a resource cycle you can put into any deck at the heavy cost of the extra deck. This means its hard to completely push you out of the game and you always have something to threaten them with.
Because of Moon bitch, any deck that can put two spare bodies on board can access the entire FS engine, and if you open Engraver or Tract you can potentially make Apo, Caesar or Desirae before committing to your actual deck which makes you harder to handtrap.
>>533626139I was fine with Blue Eyes outside of some of their more annoying high ceiling boards. I knew when it left we'd see some awful shit.
Memento support before Pairadice ban and Mermail gave us the first taste of that, then Maliss hit like the fucking KT Impact.
>>533635842looks about right
>Won against full power Runick in the event with my 58 card Cook pile despite not getting Left-arm until turn 4 with 1 card left in deck
>>533635842duel live only shows replays someone bothered to save and make public so I would assume it's not representative of the average ladder game
>>533637308>Moon BitchThe Queen shall not pay for the sins of Troonsmith. Thank you very much.
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>10 gb update
this new update better let me have sex with havnis
Will Tearlament ever come back?
Will it be powercrept into oblivion when they start taking it off the list?
Is there a way to turn banished face down cards, face up?
>>533655089leanchoilia, psy framelord omega, normal summon necro face but these don't flip face down banished cards face up, just put them to a more accessible place. currently there is no real way to actually just flip face down banished cards to be face up banished.
>>533655089Nyannyan send shuffle back when banished face up.
>>533655026Ishizu Tears?
Honestly, I find it hard to see how the game could EVER be power crept to that degree.
Pure Tearlaments.
Probably, actually, but it'll be a while. Even if the game ever surpasses the power level of the deck, they'd be slow to unlimit the cards.
I think we'd need to start seeing cards with 4 effects be the norm before that happens though.
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>Argostars are based on greek mythology and japanese ww2 airplanes
>almost all 7 champions in the myth Argostars are based on died except Adra
is that a bad omen, or is it just the bad experience mentioned in Adra's description?
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/The_Valuable_Book_EX_5_card_storylines#No._2:_Argostars
>>533656584>using jewtappedjej
>>533657189I say this as a Centur-Ion player, don't let us have this power
>>533656540Tears without Ishizu would still steamroll most of the decks.
Especially with access to the fix of their one weakness: targeted removal.
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When is this card getting the hammer? Kill SE and everyone coping on the deck once and for all
>>533658557they just need to errata this and chaos ruler to require zombie materials
>>533655026Let's pray the game never devolves into that. It'd be less of a card game and more of a fighting game at that point.
>>533660474there was never a tier 0 in Master Duel
>DDD top
And people say that is a bad deck.
>>533660949You've summoned the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse
>>533660474>the best and most skillful meta everMan I wish we could go back actually. Or better yet, make Konami print more decks like Tearlaments.
>>533661332it's playable now and the new support it just got in OCG makes it REALLY good, it's everything it needed to flourish
>>533656584hmmm sweaty, you're just imagining things because don't actually understand statistics... or something
>>533662059>Least dishonest tear faggot
>troonlament sisters will NEVER be able to play their deck outside fringe unlimited tournaments no one even cares about
this genuinely warms my heart
>>533662440To where? What better place to hate the ultimate tier 0 deck?
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>>533662059>Tear but it's cute shota mermaidsOne can dream Konami will ever add a proper shota archetype
>anti BASEDlaments troons still crying about the deck years later and will never stop dilating due to the sheer PERFECTION that deck was
Never cease to amaze me. But then again, this community is allergic to actually good things like Tearlaments.
>>533662702Got you little bro
>>533663047mermails are unironically one of the worst archetype if the game
both playstyle and aesthetically
>two fuwalos going first
>one actual play that was extremely weak
now I remember why I abhor this card
>>533663165but enough about vanquish soul
Is it worth coughing up the gems for these or what? I haven't built a "real" deck yet and after dismantling everything i've gotten from free packs I have 178 SR dust and 205 UR. afaik these are all staples and some of the decks im looking to build have these but at the same time I imagine it might be easier to try and get secret packs for cards that are actually in my deck and use the materials to craft the cards in this image instead
what does eclipse twins not being released mean for ryzeal? do they just explode to tactics take deadnader now?
>>533662059>Giving Floo respectAnon please.
>Best-out-of-3 kek lords about to side this for K9
>>533664284Showing cards is not a fucking cost.
I'm sorry ninja bro, but the bone party is here
>>533664128they're all worth it but prioritize ash blossom and infinite impermanence
>>533664128actually yes, you get 10 packs and a free UR for less then it costs for 10 packs by a fourth, buy as many as possible.
>>533664642>>533664786Thanks i'll get them then
>First bundle gives 9 SRs and 3 URs
How many ryzeal variants exist?
So what are the chances that Ryzeal isn't a menace and turns out to be a nothingburger? seeing everyone talk about it like if you aren't also playing ryzeal then you lose, is starting to seem like people just want the deck to be stronger than it actually is
>>533669363zero, just like how tenpai turned out to be the cancerous deck we all expected it to be and is still shitting up the place even after getting murked on the banlist
if a deck dominates in Bo3 formats with sidedecking there is no reason why it won't do the same in MD
>>533669363>slap on wrist semi>Eclipse twin coming next setWhat the fuck you think? And they aren't going ban deadnamer.
>>533669363It's 100% going to be a menace but I do think people are overhyping it a fair bit. People will just run shit like Xyz Encore just like Lancea if its everywhere
>>533611813isn't this just detonator blasted by ai
>>533671135Lancea have utility like cockblocking call and evenly.
Encore and kaijus would do jackshit when twin release.
I think think it makes sense for Ryzeal to be Pyro monsters instead of Machine monsters thematically.
Even if they are combustion engines, engines are still a type of machine.
Also, why LIGHT instead of FIRE?
>>533672195I don't* think
Im about to just start running Triple Nib for Maliss player. Every single one I go against plays into it
>>533672195Because it avoid usual support from fire.
Blackwings any good for the synchro event?
>Dailies reset
>Lose every cointoss and draw no handtraps
It's one of these days huh
>>533673359>>533673816>>533674062>Thunder>>>>FireSo game mechanics is reason to make cards whose typing and attribute don't make much sense with regards to theme?
That's the same as making a pokemon that's obviously STEEL/FIRE an exotic typing like GHOST/ELECTRIC
>>533671617Retard? The fuck does Eclipse do to Dead namer or FOR dead namer after Encore resolves?
>>533660474>and more of a fighting game at that point.What the fuck are you talking about?
>>533658136Do you have eyes?
>>533677404Both players playing on turn 0 isn't yugioh. That's just degenerate zoomer slop.
>tenpai asshole
>just magically opened heavy storm
every fucking time
>>533677687>That's just degenerate zoomer slop.You mean chess? Where both players are going back and forth 1 action per turn and reacting to each other's strategy?
Turn based game is still a turn based game. The difference is how many consecutive actions per turn players can take at a time. Amp up interaction high enough, and it becomes identical to a single action per turn game.
Comparing Yu-Gi-Oh to fighting game shows you know fuck all about fighting games. ESPECIALLY when TCGs that Rey to emulate fighting games exist and it's nothing like what you think it'd be given your stupid take.
>It's another episode of get a win streak to your rank up and then lose that game and the next 5 before you get a pity win
fuwalos really should have the text that you will only get it going first. what a fucking disgusting brick
>>533678358Been playing fighting games nearly my whole life. When no other yugioh deck can play on turn 0 like Tear can, it means you either play tear or lose to it.
It becomes a fighting game because Tear, mechanically, just ignores the normal restrictions that every other deck has to live by.
>>533679465What if:
>If you opponent controls a card, and you control no cardsYou where able to discard or maybe shuffle it into the deck and draw 1 card?
>>533673816i wish we had exorsister ext
>>533674451of course it's a poketard
>>533673816>You can Special Summon this card (from your hand) by negating the effects of a face-up card your opponent controlsthis thing's release really was one more step on the powercreep ladder
>>533680657And what's the problem?
I just made that analogy because it makes sense.
Would you like a food analogy instead?
>>533679989no downsides to running it then
So, /mdg/. Are you rolling for Ryzeal when the pack comes out or will you be using your gems for something else?
give branded a trap in the graveyard that can negate anything that activates in response to a fusion. that would be epic
vanquish soul more like transquish hole
Just trying to play ranked matches so I can get the newbie structure deck and this guy is purposefully wasting my time and not killing me for no reason. I have 1 card in hand no monsters I literally can't even summon the card in hand cuz it's a tribute and he's playing cards but just not attacking? What drives someone to do this. I have a second monitor so I am just doing other stuff but I can't imagine what reason this person would have to waste 5 minutes on a turn where he plays like 4 cards and doesn't attack to not end the match when it's obvious I don't have anything to do
is ryzeal like a control/midrange deck or can it otk on second turn? doesn't seem to have huge damage potential but maybe I'm missing something
I feel like I should like Ryzeal aesthetically, and yet something about them...repels me
I love giant robots, of any genre, but something about them feels so 'extra' that I just can't get into them, it's almost SD like and I've never been big on that aesthetic
probably just gonna wait for Super Quant support to scratch that mecha itch
>>533682001considering i'm stuck in diamond hell right now, i may as well and collect free wins.
>>533683798i have been dancing between diamond 3 and 4 for a day i hate it
>no new cards
wait so what the fuck was the 10 gb update about?
>>533684496unity update. you should read the notifications
>>533682001I will wait to see what's in September's pack since that's when my gems will start to expire.
I'm not as excited for ryzeal format as I'm for yummy, dracotail and k9.
Why is she never used? literally every new meta relies on broken EDs but decks that have space always choose super poly targets over her
>>533684013I have constantly been in between Diamond 1 and 2 and everytime I get to my Master rank up game, my opponent has the stones and blows me the fuck out
>>533682867Tip for new players like you:
Until you reach Platinum, there's no need to stick to duels.
You can get out of Rookie even if you lose.
So if you know a nigger is going to take long to kill you, you can just surrender and start another duel.
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cool update
So are you guys crafting Metaltronus or Utimate Slayer?
>>533686091I will craft solemn judgement to stop you rats from spinning my cards
>>533686091i'll probably just play a deck that pluses on destruction instead of praying I draw an unsearchable out every game
>>533687753Did they make a Fire King secret pack yet?
>>533685373She's not very good.
>costs multiple ED slots>will be useless into the non-top meta decks>can be worthless if you go first>some decks have cards to recycle their banished ED anyway like march hareIt's the sort of card that sounds good on paper but in practice you'll realize just how many decks people are actually playing, how many alternate choices good decks have of things to summon, how often she lets you down in weird game states like drawing her in a grind game or getting hand trapped out of turn 1 with multiple monsters on board leaves her dead in hand, and to make things worse she's super expensive to use since pivotal ED cards are almost always UR.
Every single time we're going into a new meta people will start posting about how they're totally going to use her, but you'll never hear about how she's actually working the way they imagined past maybe like the first week of the new deck.
>>533682905it's like spright. you don't need big beaters because you search 10 names and shit out your entire hand for free every turn
Playing malice right now feels fucking awful. Every mouthbreather has it out for us maining lancea. They need to ban that fucking card asap and ban maxx C too
>>533688276cool post troon
>internet connection is perfectly fine
>but every game since the update has been laggy as hell for both me and every other person
they fucked something up, it's never been this bad and there's no reason for it to BE this bad
>>533687873 those are all fair points. would she be playable/broken if she worked on any card in your deck? then she would at least hit generics like handtraps but even then useless going first is a killer. so yea I just realized how bad she is unicorn is better in every way
>>533688669stop saying the laggy servers are laggy, you're supposed to blame your opponent for cheating.
just revisited Sky Strikers and had one of the most exciting couple of duels in months
are there any other decks with an even remotely similar play style
>>533685373Also loses to this, in addition to what the other anon said.
>>533688276Oh I don't know, I think it's funny as hell when someone shits their pants and spams every effect they have at once just because I played Soul Absorption.
>transfeminem
>skystriker emblem
Can't make this shit up.
There should be separate ladders.
You've reached Platinum? Now even if you are demoted in future seasons you won't be allowed to match with people who've never reached Platinum even if you are in Rookie or Bronze.
It feels disgusting for new players and only discourages them from playing the game.
chessy cat just has to fucking get banned. and don't fucking downplay the draw 2 effect.
>>533691497>but she's the least useful of the Maliss monstersNiggers really say this when they know Chessy + Binder just draw you a lot of handtraps going first.
Ban Chessy Cat and make another Maliss monster with the same effect, but that instead adds a Maliss card of the same type to the hand instead of drawing 2.
I love decks with abusive draw power
>>533688276ryzeal will cull a lot of the lancea use because people will instead get pissed constantly having their shit popped by the detonator.
>>533691475In my experience, this just makes things worse for the games that do it. If we pretended it would actually work and they wouldn't still be facing smurfs, then their experience becomes that they start playing with their starter deck vs other starter decks, and are spending time learning and growing to enjoy that sort of 2008 style of Yugioh where everyone is normal summon, set 1 passing. Then they rank up one more time and they now have to face real modern decks. Suddenly all the effort they just put into learning how to play the game that was was a waste, and the feeling that they were improving was a lie because everyone else is playing a different game.
I think it's better to rip the bandage off early so they can realize that the game doesn't play the way they saw it on TV 20 years ago.
What Konami really needs to do is update the tutorial with a new set of duels that teaches you not just the basic mechanics but how the game is actually played.
>>533692491it's the only thing your worthless ugly deck has going for it
>>533692491You've never experienced TRVE draw power until you on the opponent's turn activate Runick Flashing Fire then on a new chain activate Fountain to draw 3, and chain Folgo to draw another 3, before quick effect summoning Rafale to excavate 4 and add 1.
>>533692924>What Konami really needs to do is update the tutorial with a new set of duels that teaches you not just the basic mechanics but how the game is actually played.Those deck challenges and pretty much all of solo mode is pretty much an extended tutorial. But one that isn't really labelled as such.
Least there's at least some rewards from those and there's a decently large amount of them now, so there'll at least be some filtering through them. Though would be better if they filtered Solo Modes by how modern a deck is. That'd make a way better curve.
>Chink scoops the moment I draw TTT off of White Binder
And people say they don't know what's in your hand
>>533693923The deck challenges feel more like puzzle duels assuming I'm thinking of the right ones and the basic solo modes just exhibit some of the very basic traits that make irrelevant archetypes unique.
What I'm talking about is like, a tutorial that straight up gives players a basic rundown on the metagame with lessons like "A common way to play the game is going first to resolve a combo set up boss monsters with quick effects to disrupt your opponent's ability to get their own boss monsters on the board" and "Players will commonly use cards with quick effects from the hand to interfere with player 1's ability to do this".
Just basic metagame information with examples of actually competent decks. Not "look at how cool the Element Sabres are!" "if you get all the attributes in the GY the field spell gives like 1600 bonus attack!".
It's a damn shame that Master Duel doesn't have a custom game browser tied into its room system.
Like imagine the weird shit we'd get there if it gave you options to make custom banlists, set different numbers of card draws including Rush Duels' rules, and so on.
Even if it didn't give rewards, would probably still get some more people playing.
And a lot of chances to fuck with people by showing up with Monarch or True Draco to the "No Synchro/No XYZ/No Pendulum/No Link" rooms.
Master Duel needs a real story mode.
Preferably a career mode of some sorts.
But alas they couldn't even do it properly with Duel Links so it's only a delusion.
why not at least limit maxx c? I really can't take it. I can't keep getting hit with it on both my turn and his turn. playing was never even an option
performapal bros... our draw 2 is too strong, they're coming for us after chessy cat
How expensive is the extra deck for Ryzeal?
>>533694810>>533696581Master Duel is such a good game that it's a shame that they don't take the steps to make it better.
>runs well>looks good feels good to play>very f2p friendly>just werksBut everything else about it is bad that it's such a waste of potential. We can see into the future of the meta by half a year. Why don't they take more steps to make the meta better based on what happened in the OCG/TCG?
All we have is ranked and the most bare bones of boring events. Why don't they make events that are actually interesting? Why don't they add a story mode? Make it a standalone game using Master Duel as the engine if they must.
Why don't we have alternative formats? THREE days of time travel events? Really? They could be selling extremely rare limited edition EMPEROR RARES of Pot of Greed and having whales pull for the Ultra Ultra Rare Blue Eyes White Dragon sticker to slap onto their Pot of Greed if they really wanted to monetize it.
It's so sad that Master Duel ended up being so good and they just decided to do nothing with it.
>>533698413Not terribly. Stuff like Tornado Dragon, Light Dragon@ignister, and Castel are URs, but there are cheaper options like Asophiel that are 80% as good and those aren't important parts of your gameplan anyway. They're largely flex spots. So a fully optimized ED will probably be fairly expensive but also be hardly better than a budget one.
The more important cards like Dugares, Bagoosker, and Aggregator are all SR.
maliss can beat full power tearlament in no banlist event just fine i was going first uninterrupted.
>>533666367>ryzeal variantsAny deck with focus on rank 4 XYZs, any deck that doesn't care about extra at all, any deck with level 4s
>>533699150Exciton and Banshee are also UR but as you said, flexible
>>533699652Full power Tearlament IS the best deck ever in the game but that doesn't mean other decks still can't beat it. A few people were seeing rogue success with fucking Madolche in Tear 0.
So we got a degenerate link deck and soon xyz. What are the next degenerate synchro/fusion decks?
MD needs to add tag duels
preferably as a permanent option in duel rooms
also a way to automatically do certain combos to speed up the gameplay for everyone
it is a shame that neither of these will ever happen
>>533701118>degenerate SynchroYummy
>degenerate FusionDracotail but it's probably the least egregious
>>533701118White Forest is getting good support in a month or two. Lunalight and Gem Knight will also. Not sure you can call any of those degenerate though unless you seethe over every combo, OTK, or towers deck. Dracotail and Yummy are the next meta changers but are still behind K9 VS.
>>533648115no, i don't think that's the case
there's way too much replay for that to be the case
>>533701032>A few people were seeing rogue success with fucking Madolche in Tear 0sure, but that was mostly because tear milled their deck for them and they played all the shufflers
> Millennium Maliss was top one rated deck last season
God, Ryzeal can't come fast enough
So how do you make secret packs pop up again?
>>533704431Craft a SR or UR that you can find in that pack. If its a pack you never opened, you get one free pull.
>>533699652>uninterruptedTons of decks can make you eat shit uninterrupted. One Havnis, one tear kashโฆ and itโs complete fucking gg.
So, when will either Yummy, Dracotail and K9 come?
November?
>>533704552so you can just make them pop up again every time you craft something from the pack?
>>533704920Yup, it can even be the same card. You already have.
>>533701312Dracotail is a weird case.
I thought I could use it with Branded as a way to make it better. But turns out, after reading more and seeing people play, itโs the other way around. Branded fixes the issues Dracotail has. Between this and DM support, fusion is getting some love.
>enter thread
>ctrl + f my pet deck
>0 results
>leave
>>533705408what's your pet deck?
>there was no response from the game server
>>533704920You should check if the pack has any SRs that are in other secret packs too since you get a free pull the first time you unlock a secret pack this way.
>Only going against diamond players in Master
Where the fuck is everyone?
>>533707897but there are three results, not including your post and the OP
is 4500 gems and 430 UR dust enough for ryzeal?
>>533709184> 430 UR> 14 CraftsProbably okay unless you get really shit pulls
Good Super Poly targets against Ryzeal?
>>533710170Elder Entity Norden
>>533710170they have yet to invent a super poly target that can be fused with 1 monster
>>533710714So Ryzeal end board is just 1 monster?
Or it's like Maliss where it's 1-2 monsters but then they suddenly fill the board?
just give me a structure deck filled with N/R every time i cleared a solo gate goddamnit
it doesn't matter for anyone that's been playing for more than like, 1 week, but it'd really helps completely fresh accounts
Why the fuck banlist still applies for solo mode
I forget, does the new pack come at midnight or during the middle of the day tomorrow?
>>533715995if only there were a countdown
>>533710887Just 1 monster but they have interaction in the graveyard
>>533698556Hell, remember how it launched? It's still missing a bunch of potential, but even right now is insanely good compared to back then.
I am 100% certain that Konami only saw this as a minor side thing and not something that would explode anywhere near as big as it did. I don't even think they realize how many players they are currently sustaining with it.
they better reprint purulia in the new selection pack
This card should be coming in the next pack right?
>>533679858>Been playing fighting games nearly my whole life. Sure doesn't seem like it.
Fighting games are mind games focused around predicting what your opponent is going to do, baiting out favorable positions, and punishing them for that.
They're effectively a very complicated game of Rock, Paper, Scissors with a high ceiling with reaction and mechanical memorization.
As I said, there are already several TCGs out there, that emulate what it's like to play a fighting game. Yu-Gi-Oh, has zero connection to this concept as Yu-Gi-Oh doesn't have a core counterplay interaction built into the card types. Yu-Gi-Oh is not about predicting what your opponent is going to do, and exploiting that. Yu-Gi-Oh is about setting a puzzle for your opponent to break.
If you made Yu-Gi-Oh more interactive, all it would do, ironically is make the game more like how it used to be before the solitaire spam powercreep.
>When no other yugioh deck can play on turn 0 like Tear can, it means you either play tear or lose to it.Most decks in current Yu-Gi-Oh play on turn 0. K-9, Dracotail, Vanquish Soul, etc.... just to name a few.
Playing on Turn 0 does don't make you a Tier 0 deck. Labrynth can play on turn 0 and it's not a tier 0 deck.
Also, a deck being so powerful that it's the only thing you can play isn't exclusive to Tearlaments. Every tier 0 deck is defined by that.
>It becomes a fighting game because Tear, mechanically, just ignores the normal restrictions that every other deck has to live by.That's not how fighting games function st all. And this has been the standard for card design for Yu-Gi-Oh since its conception due to the nature of power creep.
In fact,
>They play a different game than everyone elseIs a standard definition for game design across all competitive games.
See Yuri in Red Alert 2 for example.
Typically when anything in a game breaks the standard rules of the game, it becomes overpowered. It's not a concepts exclusive to fighting games.
>>533682001Nah.
I'm saving my gems to roll for Alt Art Lab.
The only way to get me to roll is to release Sarc DMG.
>>533710887usually they end on 2 monsters with the other ryzeal xyz but they can end on just detonator and even just detonator is already a lot of interaction.
>>533720769Seems likely given how they just put animations on the Dominus traps.
It's anecdotal, but I'm gonna put it out there. The power gap between Ishizu Tears and the rest of the current meta isn't THAT big.
I've fought a few current meta decks in the unlimited event, and the current decks out up much more of a fight than during Tear 0. Ishizu Tear is the best deck, but by such a wide margin anymore.
Maliss, Snake-Eyes, Yubel, etc.... put up a very good fight and it leads to very interesting and dynamic duels.
I actually hope they do something like this again when we get K-9, Vanquish Soul, etc....
>yubel paleo lab fiendsmith tear all crammed into one deck
I'm so tired of slop piles, bros.
>>533716438wheres a countdown?
wish I could report that fucking subhuman and it actually did something. his internet was so shit i had to wait a minute between each action
>>533728693sounds like a tear 0 skill issue
I've been playing Maliss recently and not having the best time of it. Half of my losses are from me mis-clicking, fucking up my combo, and conceding out of shame. Half of my wins are from opponents conceding when I play my first Maliss card. Oh well, them's the breaks, I will learn to like it.
what the fuck is the average handtrap count right now? 4 of the last 10 duels my opponent opened with 3 handtraps. this shit is getting ridiculous.
Ranked just pisses me off whenever I play it late at night. Everyone has moonrunes in their name and everyone has Maxx C, Fuwa, Ash in their opening hand while I don't draw Called by or Crossout. I love losing before I can even play my first card because Maxx C exists
>>533731178playing 15 or more is kinda normal
especially if you left lower ranks
>>533729021>not reporting for slow playI do agree though that if you disconnect for more than 10 seconds 3 times in one game, the game should auto-concede. I've had way too many games ruined by shitters with third-world internet.
>>533731687they just need to fucking ban maxx c already. i hate konami so much WHY the fuck would you make the mulcharmys if you weren't gonna ban maxx c god damn i genuinely want to just beat the shit out of someone.
>>533731178>3 ash>2 maxx c>3 imperm>3 veiler>3 dominus you can play/ghost ogre/ghost belle/mulcharmy >3 lancea (will probably be dropped when ryzeal releases)
>>533729992>Having fun means it's a skill issueOk...
>>533732716I finally got to Master 5 after being in diamond hell all yesterday so I'm just gonna stop playing for tonight. God I hope we get the new live twin support in the next pack so I can just play that deck to climb instead
>>533732716they made mulcharmys because they thought three maxx c wasn't enough to keep up with the current meta
they semi limited maxx c because 6 was slightly too much
>>533732796>
begging to open 5 handtraps 4 duels in a row
>>533732941its a skill issue because you don't know how to play it
>>5337331314 handcraps and a 1 card sharter is all you need to win
>play shitty meme deck that dies to one ash
>opponent opens the full suite of handtraps
>play meta slop that can actually power through multiple disruptions
>suddenly opponent has no handtraps
i'm losing my fucking mind