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>Are mystery dungeon games allowed in this thread?
Generally yes, most mystery dungeon games(Shiren the Wanderer, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, Etrian Mystery Dungeon, etc.) can be considered roguelikes too
>Is Elin/Elona allowed?
Yes, they are roguelikes
>Is Dwarf Fortress allowed?
If it's adventure mode, yes, that could be considered a roguelike, the same can't be said about its other modes though
>FAQ
https://l.idrix.fr/J7sOv
>What to Play
https://l.idrix.fr/eYNOh
>Individual Game Pastas
https://l.idrix.fr/wXd8t
>Roguelike Archive (Collection of pretty much every free roguelike there is)
https://archive.org/details/ArchiveRL.7z
>/rlg/'s "official" Cataclysm: DDA fork
https://github.com/cataclysmbnteam/Cataclysm-BN/releases


>News
28 June 2025 - Shadow of the Wyrm v1.8.4 released - https://www.shadowofthewyrm.org/downloads.html
26 June 2025 - Gloamvault b21 released - https://store.steampowered.com/app/3460840/Gloamvault/
22 June 2025 - Steam Sky 11.0.2 released - https://thindil.itch.io/steam-sky/devlog/971350/version-1102-arrived
20 June 2025 - Overworld v2.5 released - https://redasteroidgames.com/overworld/
19 June 2025 - NLarn 0.7.7 released - https://nlarn.github.io/news/2025/06/19/release-0.7.7
18 June 2025 - Tangaria "Deeptown Era" released - https://tangaria.com/news/deeptown-era/
9 June 2025 - Coop Catacombs 1.6 released - https://aikoncwd.itch.io/coop-catacombs

>/rlg/'s shared DCSS online account
User: rlgrobin
Password: ownfault (or "robin" on Xtahua)

Roguelike Servers
https://angband.live/ (Angband and variants)

where are the rogues

Generate me a roguelike player

Give me a rougelike simulator

Since we know that the cap for effects for Path of Achra is 1mill, my challenge to you is to find the most broken way to use that.
Let's see your 1mill stack builds and victories.

>>533631792
What's the appeal of path of asscrack compared to other roguelikes?

>>533632871
It's quick.
You either win or die, your run isn't going to last more than a couple of hours.

isn't it fascinating that the first thing women do when creating a virtual avatar for people to ogle at is giving themselves giant tits that bounce every time they breathe

>>533636483
big bouncing tits are fascinating, yes.

Nobody asked you.

>>533637085
Did i say you could talk, bitch?

Quiet.

Any of you gents want to share your community layout for DCSS on the deck? Last time I checked, there wasn't one
Strangely there were a couple for Infra Arcana, but none for DCSS or Angband

>>533647108
I don't even understand your question, do you mean Steam Deck or something else? DCSS doesn't come with a good layout on it?

>>533649471
Yeah, for the steam deck. Community layouts are custom control schemes that you can share with everyone. DCSS only has a keyboard layout, but I figured someone already mapped it to the deck

>>533631792
I refuse to use Master Repulsion. It's just not ethical.

>>533663868
That's fine, fine another 1mill stack build.

>>533664352
That's the only one I would know how to do. Any effect that stacks up on hit is going to kill the enemy long before you get enough stacks. And shit like stand still for poise is going to take hours to hit one million.

>>533664556
You'll think of something.

>>533616284 (OP)
Damn I wasn't around to make the new thread.

>>533671804
You failed us

I played another "smash my own minions" build. I get charge on summon, damage on summon, and damage on minion death.

I also cleared every race, class, and deity with these being the last ones I needed.

>>533672094
good. Expect it more often.

Another run where the prestige class did nothing. No matter what I can't see a world where the mirrors it spawns does anything noteworthy. Since they spawn on standstill you can't make enough of them to do any meaningful damage; also they are limited to a range of 4 from the player making them even worse.
Otherwise it's a "aggressively stand still" build. Since Agara trigger stand still effects on prayers and Crystalform also trigger on prayer it steadily scales my damage. Crow Visage did Crow Visage things.
Even then I feel like I won mostly because I never got screwed by mapgen. Got a really favourable map against the final boss where I slowed him down to a crawl causing him to be too busy killing mirrors to be able to reach me. Didn't even see him once.

Big weapon damage with Eris.

>>533616284 (OP)
Anyone have a good music playlist?

About to play Elin
Should I watch a "things I knew before playing elin" type of tutorial video or no?

>>533725430
Just go in blind and ask around if you're confused

https://youtu.be/-13LUfagQhY?si=7IJA2eUmFAesOR7B

>>533608881
Who are you quoting from?

And what are they talking about.

>>533730602
Reddit and a nobody e-"celeb".

was this just bad rng or what? combat in this game seems completely unforgiving

Roguelikes used to be good

>>533739031
Rogue was good and that's it

>>533743071
that wasn't a roguelike.

>>533743071
*Rogue Survivor was good and that's it

roguelikes are better than ever

Best stats I've ever gotten on a melee character

CDDA....

>>533749413

>>533731741
What's the bad rng hre?
you're supposed to switch movement mode so you Just don't get hit bro, just gotta be careful in long corridors with bad cover

I bought Quasimorph today, really like the game. The combat keeps me on my toes. One thing though, is this the sort of game where you have to rely on crafting? I ask because trading seems like it is absolute dog water, or is that just because I am trading on mars? I would much rather trade decent items that I have no use for and receive materials in bulk than have to lug around 20kg worth of powder through a mission in order to craft my own ammo. Am I missing something here?

>>533750215

That was kind of fun.

>>533731741
if you were sneaking you'd see all the red behind the door and act more prudently.

>>533746512
What about Beneath Apple Manor?

RIP buddy, F

titan quest 2 roguelike?

My follower guy won't move through this door in the newest BN experimental, I really don't want to make a shithub account

>>533776580
As much as I appreciate the BNs fork, I refuse to update it since they decided to up a cap on skills. Fuck knows who thought that was a good idea.

>>533777745
>I refuse to update it
I basically had no choice since I started playing it with a version that had the bug where my mounted roof turrets were blocked by the interior of my car and I couldn't shoot through metal bars and chickenwire fences.

Also if you open a window side by side with another locked window they won't move through it either until you open the locked one.

>>533731741
>didn't sneak
>opened door with 0 AP remaining

BN really is so good though, invading a mansion feels just like it did in Intravenous

>>533760273
Kevin would like this

>>533782942
Is that the coomer?

>>533725430
I wanted to go in blind, but im a boomer dad that doesn't have time for "figure it out on your own" type games.

With that being said... I am now divorced and childless, almost entirely from this game.
Watching a few "getting started" vids won't spoil anything, it just accelerates the autism.

Hey it works

>>533805368
How does this work? Are your skin familiars carrying or is it mostly the undead killing things?

How can I stop my addiction of random DCSS characters that die ~D:6 ?

this is how I feel right now.

>>533730690
But where. Malcolm talk is apparently banned in dcss since this post from March.

https://old.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/1jicb5f/my_brief_argument_with_malcolm_rose_and_what_i/
> I fail to see how anyone can bring up WLM with no explanation whatsoever and expect to not be called out for racism.

>Given the recent posts and comments on this sub that promote his content or defend his behavior, from now on we're not allowing posts that link to his content or discuss him in general. Do not advocate for him. Do not request to unban him. Doing any of these may result being banned yourself.

go peddle your crypto scams somewhere else marge

>>533803381
Stop beating around your bush, based phoneposter, you know exactly who that is.

>>533831737
he sounds like a pretty cool guy to me

>>533824417
around d6, you may come across maurice, or a two headed ogur. These are extreme threats, for different reasons. Blorkula the orkula can also be a major concern, if his undeath renders him resistant to your attack method.

While it is clear that blork is far weaker than a two headed ogur which is far weaker than maurice, all of them are sufficient reasons to simply leave. You've got 3 staircases into d6 from above, and 3 between d7 and d6. Use them all.

Specifically, if a deadly threat is loitering near 2 out of 3 of your staircases into d6, it is now time to use your 3rd staircase into d6 specifically to find a staircase into d7 as fast as possible.

Blorkula is generally overpowered quite easily, and a small amount of extra exp should do the trick, or you may find a correct weapon on d7. Remember that he is capable of haste and ranged attacks, meaning that you can't wait until your health drops before running.

If you find an ogur, or a two headed ogur, either of them can easily strike you down in single combat. You may get away with fighting a normal ogur 70% of the time, but that's still too likely to kill you. If you've got an investment in any kind of ranged weaponry, you can likely just clear out most of the floor and then lead the ogur in a circle while chipping them. Particularly, poison or poison darts work well for this. Wands are an option, if you have some. The point is to not let them near you in the first place, so that you can just retreat upstairs if needed and try again. That works on both kind of ogur. If you're pure melee, simply skip these until you've got more power in some manner. You may even want to save two-headers for after you clear lair.

Maurice is also weak to poisoning, in that you can fully poison him and then leave. He doesn't have that much hp. The main issue is his invisibility, combined with plenty of ranged tools which he may or may not have.

>>533838362
Ranged, invisable, blinking, and swiftness means that retreat after losing hp isn't really viable, just like with blorcula.

The main issue with d:6 is that it's transitional. You're still weak enough that a swarm of gnolls can end you. Even a lucky ork wizzard can do you in, if confusion hits and they have a poison dagger. You think you're stronger than them, because you are, but you're still not ready to wander into a swarm of them, or take them for granted.

Anything strong is slightly above your paygrade, and out-of-depth is now an extra half-measure more powerful than they should be. You're moments away from outgrowing them, but you're not there yet.

The perfect example is the acid dragon. If you see it, you're at its mercy. There's almost nothing you can do. It's faster than you. It's not that strong, but it has its special attack. If it hits you with acid, even if it doesn't corrode you, it may outright kill squishy characters. Probably, if you can just punch it a few times, it will likely go down, but that requires that you reach it, and that it just doesn't choose to spit at you.
Unless you're a summoner, there doesn't seem to be a true safe way to handle this jerk, and you probably don't have spare invis pots.
But, if you have resist corrosion, or acid dragon scales, then they are nothing.

That's what it comes down to. You're on D:6. You still haven't quite gotten strong, and your pockets aren't yet full of options. Your build is just barely online, probably. If you have to simply retreat or skip a floor, then do it. If you really can't retreat, then maybe you'll have to waste a might potion on a stupid acid dragon in order to get his scales so that you can wear them for the next one.

>>533824364
It's the Scorch carrying. Undead applying the Scorch with hitting via Burning Ooze and dying via Necromancer. The remaining part of the build is to make sure you have enough bodies. and prayers to make sure everything works.

>>533782942
>BN
you can't mean Bright Nights do you?

>>533842738
I absolutely mean Bright Nights, I love this game. Why don't you?

>>533587806
>The classic definition of a "streak" in Crawl requires you to never repeat a species or background as any previous win in the streak
>I've been playing Crawl since 2009. This is the definition that existed back then, long predating me. This definition exists precisely because a zillion consecutive MiFi wins isn't particularly impressive, difficult, or interesting for any experienced player. There's a reason that the top streakers bother to make the game harder for themselves by mixing up their combos.

> you're producing a circular argument here - you say a streak is mixed combos, and you can tell because that's what top streakers do - but someone is only a top streaker to you if they play mixed combos!

Which one is it, rlg

Bros I think I might have found the cure to my bad sleep
It's alcohol
And before you ask I swore off alcohol my entire life because my dad used to get drunk and beat my mom
Thanks for reading my blog
Roguelike

>>533852405
I'm sorry to hear that, you should play Cataclysm: Bright Nights though.

>>533852297
I didn't read all of that, can you summarize what the problem is in a few lines?

was playing tlg island prison start, smashed a speaker and got copper wires, and found out that it only accepts copper wires in one of the two places it accepts regular wires for rudimentary lockpicks. I fucking hate dda recipes dude.

>>533856920
these are the kinds of things you bring up as a bug because they make no sense

>>533856920
https://github.com/Cataclysm-TLG/Cataclysm-TLG/blob/118313df14c3468faf4c56cfb124b33c620eed3d/data/json/recipes/tools/tool.json#L295

Before 2021 it required both to be steel wires.

https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/51485

>>533852405
That's how you become an alcoholic, you retard

>>533873701
At this point I'd rather be an alcoholic than whatever that is robbing me of sleep every night. Day long headache, feeling of throwing up, mood swings every hour and inability to concentrate while working on anything (not even video games).
Anyway, happy international roguelike day.

>>533873701
That's kind of like finding a person who uses alcohol to cope with physical constant pain and calling them a retard.
In both cases, the danger is real and there are generally better options, if you can get them.

>>533872209
did all wires have lockpicking quality when they designed the island prison challenge start

>>533856920
Are there no chain link fences dividing the island up?

>>533874269
Also trying to self medicate myself into a responsible bedtime as we speak.

>>533874991
Yes, in the example the person is a retard as well. I was drinking 12 beers a night for years, and that started as helping get sleep after using adderall. That guy also has a family history of boozers
>>533874269
It's a rabbithole you don't want to go down

I want to clarify that it's actually melatonin + a small amount of alcohol (just apple cider). Individually they don't work, but I've had success for 2 days now. I want to see how long I keep this up.

>>533824417
Spend your things. You probably died without zapping your wands, drinking buff potions or reading scrolls.

>>533875407
You can clearly see in the PR that all hairpins had lock picking quality removed.

>>533884808
wow very smart! is that the question i asked?

>>533824417
take more than 0.01 seconds to decide your next game action you filthy fucking tab holder

https://fixupx.com/samhead2001/status/1948925383275151643

>>533852405
>skip drinking for fun and go straight to drinking just to function
alcoholism speedrun

>>533760113
Ignore trading, use everything you get to craft better gear. If you don't like it, don't play the game.

>>533760113
With scavenging+recycler you can just mulch the steady flow of junk and no more issues with most raw material.

>>533760113
There's also a mod that turns the game's gear loot into ARPG style loot with rarities and random mods.

oppa roguelike style

I was out of the loop with the general and now i see there's another Cata fork?
How is it compared to CataBN? It drew my interest since it removed kevin's cringe faction

>>533884920
The implication is that no, wire alone never had that quality.

>>533874269
Can you get 1 hr - 2 hrs of exercise daily?
Do you do a job where you're just staring at a screen all day or sitting most of the day?
Are you eating lots?
Do you drink coffee to cope with the poor sleep?
All of these things were effecting me. Alcohol also helps me sleep really good lol but I limit myself to 2 nights a week, and also the next day I feel "less intelligent"

>>533925138
From what I gather, it removed a focus on NPC faction interactions but added even more tedium
It's also run by some troon e-celeb who threatened to brick all mods if someone ported stats through skills/kills

>>533935092
>it removed a focus on NPC faction interactions but added even more tedium
Is that so?
Damn, i actually liked interacting with NPCs. Without the bullshit kevin faction, of course
Guess it's still better to stick to BN then?

>>533938110
I think it was just the exodii that were removed, putting cbms back into the world
Idk, whenever I play Cata I usually just play DDA experimental

>>533925138
>How is it compared to CataBN
TLG is essentially just DDA when compared to BN but with a worse "vision/future/philosophy".
The lead dev only forked because even Kevin of all people blocked that devs attempt add more tedium and remove what little fun there is in DDA. Currently though its alright since it adds some difficulty back to the game, but will forever be DDA at its core since the dev agrees with modern DDA on a fundamental level.

>>533925138
you're better off looking into it yourself because the retards in here will just give you a negative spin

>>533942560
Or you could just, you know, say why you like it if you feel others are being unfair about it

>>533943616
I have no emotional investment in the conversation but you are writing in the tone of a bitchy woman. /rlg/ is not for people like you. leave.

>>533943616
That's not going to happen.

>>533852297
I definitely think less of the pure MiFi or GnIE streaks. Still impressive, but switching it up is probably almost an order of magnitude harder still

>>533939149
>TLG is essentially just DDA when compared to BN but with a worse "vision/future/philosophy".
How is it worse?
>because even Kevin of all people blocked that devs attempt add more tedium and remove what little fun there is in DDA
Kevin being the one to not add tedium and other retarded stuff into the game? I find it hard to believe
>>533938543
I see i see
>>533942560
I just wanted some information before putting in hours into the fork then realizing the fork is shit
I will try it i suppose

girlfailurelikes

>>533912016
>>533912109
Thanks

>>533939149
Wormgirl might be a silly tedium lover but she does actually play games and works hard and codes competently, so she could never do as bad a job as the current DDA development. You might not like the game, but it will work and be balanced in some way.

I'm 100% black and I haven't played rogue like in 6 months after I got rid of my keyboard with numpad
And you niggers still jerkoff cataclysm ad infinitum
Im actually playing REAL games instead of some dogshit asciislop with bump combat made for templeos
Blackest gorilla niggers I've ever seen

>>533972471
ok

>>533972471
In Cataclysm you can set the option to use Ctrl and Shift keys to move diagonally so you can still play it right now without a numpad.

bn players really think any change that makes the game more challenging is “tedium”
babies

>>533933648
I have a daily brainfog that causes all the symptoms I mentioned. I can't feel less intelligent because that's what I am on everyday - literally unable to think because simply waking up causes painful headaches that last an entire day.
Also I wrote in another post that it's not like I'm drinking myself drunk, I just have a single apple cider and it made all the difference. All headache gone. 3 days now.

>>533982062
I just find dda's dragon hoard building unengaging

>>533758760
>>533767565
>>533780714
yeah i didnt learn about sneaking until an hour after i made that post, guess im a dumbass

>>533982062
I don't think about your boring games at all.

Death to roguelikes

>>533971358
Does Kevin not play?

Erk plays with his son I think. He wants to add hot seat mode to switch off playing an NPC in his game.

I respect that to keep projects coherent they need an asshole BDFL like Linus Torvalds but Christ what is it with Kevin just declaring his conclusions as fact.

He literally only had 5 words in his explanation:

>The meme is not okay.

for reverting the benadryl hat man meme.

>>534004169
hes so lame

Beat cycle 32 with a Windblade. Diskos is really good because it's a shield with 2 range and a built in counter attack.

tome4 rogue failing stealth check
https://youtu.be/JiZLAcGyAcs?t=317

is this a roguelike? https://djrozwell.bandcamp.com/album/none-of-this-is-real

>>534004169
He simply does not like drugs or drug ""culture"".

>>533985628
Just use the sexbot head, I believe it always senses enemies regardless of mode.

Wake up

I like Frog until dlvl 40 or so, it's a great game to that point. But after you kill Smaug it becomes too aimless imo

*30

The odds of that happening are microscopical.

And obviously, I put on the shirt by accident instead of the ring.

Good laugh.

And vengeance will rain down from heaven on all the anons who did not pray for my soul.

Catlike roguelikes?

>>534045709
dcss

>>534003770
other games

>>533944294
Is /rlg/ instead for troon eceleb simps like you who are too cowardly to describe the merits of things?

>>534051275
you're not even talking to the same person

>>534007681
Nice work anon!

>>534022232
i just started playing, only like 2 hours into the game. i have just the basic starting items for the most part

im going to crack my head open
why is there no way to farm scrap aside from waiting for a factory or random trash to spawn
my entire progression is being halted by god damn scrap

>>533731741
Need to ask you, what game is this? Never seen this one before and I'm not exactly a new one.

>>534074789
quasimorph. its pretty neat

First two stairsways are full of shit, but at least this third one is safe :^)

ohh now i can actually carry stuff

>>534075814
I'll give it a pirate

>>534090143
already gone

>>534052102
I can see your IP, retard

>>534092571
well retard if you could see my ip you would know im not the one that called you a bitchy woman lmao

>>534090143
It becomes pretty common loot eventually and some megacorps have it in their reward pools.

Good night, /rplg/

Some youtube video about Elin being promoted by the algorithm just got millions of views. A few threads ago I argued elin/Elona are obscure games. Boy do I look stupid now.

>>534113346
You mean sseth? Pretty sure he did an elona vid too and it's his kind of meme games so it's hardly unexpected

>>534113346
Only a little bit though.

>>534113346
Thank god I also only get proven wrong anonymously.

>>534113346
Elin is Japanese cdda.

>>534119453
hmm maybe im interested

>>534075814
not a roguelike

are there any open-world fantasy roguelikes worth playing besides df and qud?

>>533616284 (OP)
There's something interesting when you feel satisfaction at dying over and over on the first floor of the first Elin dungeon for hours until like 3-4 AM, something akin to an epiphany... I think I had enough gacha/gacha-like games, day in and day out of just FOMO, trying to go up on an escalator going down, it's just really... draining, those games feel like a second job where you pay your employer.

it's crazy how often kevin posts in the tlg discord

>>534130248
kevin wants the "girl" worm in his mouth

>>534130395
seriously though, multiple times a day

>DDA adds enemy grabbing mechanics where enemies can make you drop your weapon
>DDA doesn’t add any mechanics to counter this like how IRL knights would have sword knots to prevent this exact scenario, or just taping a weapon to your hand would work
Realism only matters when its to hurt the player, reminds me of when they made cooking oil super rare for being too “OP” despite being much more common IRL than “transbinary stockings”.

>>534135370
stop playing dda and start playing a fork

im about to get back into elin. what is the suggested exp multiplier i should use for a smooth experience that isnt too broken? I was going to go 2x, but im worried i might burn out again on how slow it might be

Good morning

Last roguelike before I roguelike myself

>>534168216
wow! which roguelike does this text come from?

>>534141596
Lulwy sex

>>534139515
What is the less insane fork? Where do i get it?

>>533616284 (OP)
how do you save scum in cdda?
I realized I'm not willing to play this game without a save file.

>>534174240
is there a mod that just lets you save like a normal game without having to crash your game to reload?

>>534174889
You can just quicksave without closing your game and copy and paste the game folder somewhere else. I wouldn't bother trying to save a few hundred megabytes of space by picking out only the save files and possibly screwing something up.

>>534174889
I thought I knew the meaning of the word retard until you waltzed in and singlehandedly gave everyone a complete and utter new description for it.

>>534174240
you can save whenever you want
but to reload a save you have to quit

Burgerlikes

>>534179095
roguelikes for this setting?

>>534179095
oh good, now women are gonna want to fuck clown men just as men wanna fuck clown girls.

>>534179095
Would unironically work. Not enough material for a full scale game but a coffee break style fast food themed roguelike would be entirely possible.
>menu items are potions
>collect happy meal toys(runes)
>ball pit branch, tubes branch, burgerland branch, drivethru branch
Can go either full cartoon, full mascot horror, or full xiaxia cultivation depending on your preferences.

I'm making the first dating roguelike simulator.

:)

pls rate.

>>534183526
add ntr

>>534183526
Just make an H agame

>>534183526
You realize these games live or die based on the quality of the art, right?

>>534186586
I will use AI as placeholder.

>>534186645
>as placeholder
Pfft yeah ok

>>533616284 (OP)
Is Streets of Rogue a roguelike?

>>534190491
no

Maybe I should use pixel art instead of AI.

I need some advice, how would I code a system similar to rimworld or Dwarf fortress npc dynamic system?

>>534194537
Unironically try using AI for stuff like this

yeah bro just vibe code the thing dw
(fucking retard)

I'm trying Elin out and it's not just clicking for me. I'm trying to play just a bog-standard wizard. Is magic supposed to be this underwhelming? I'm fine with magic being shitty cantrips I get from waving around a lvl1 broomstick but then becoming lvl99 armageddon nukes once I've become autistic enough, but my current magic has been very unsatisfactory
>go to sleep, for 3-4 days, hope I learn enough spells for a dungeon from dreams
>go to dungeon, use them up, maybe use a few rods along the way
>repeat
like it's so frustrating running out of spells, it's like my chuck-e-cheese tokens ran out and now I'm relegated to my base until I sleep enough. Do I really need to buy additional spellbooks?

>>534196561
also: I understand it's a sandbox game and sandbox games are to some degree random, but combat feels so meaningless. In the same dungeon, if I turn a corner, it's a 50% chance whether it's a shitty jobber mob I can easily deal with or if it's a demigod rat which rapes me in .1 seconds. I'm fine with the game punishing me for venturing into an area too hard for me, but these 0 buildup or warning "fuck you" kills are so annoying, it's like I'm being punished for an error I didn't know I committed.

>>534125963
idc no one asked notaroguelike fuck off back to your gacha general

bros...

>>534204056
will I fall and drown in the lava if I get petrified here?

>>534204258
I didn't. easiest lair 5 of my life.

>>534204881
werewolve form on a troll is pretty fun. You are hypermobile once you get going with your jump and get free stabs with it

>>534206803
bonus: sonnja deleted with jump stab

>>534203305
Elin is a roguelike though

>>534207005
You could just blast her with your wands. She has no willpower and a distortion weapon so I wouldn't fuck around, but you do you, man.

>>534197370
elin wants you to engage with its out of combat systems, especially at the start. Getting the first level spell dreaming perk and letting those stockpile while you farm+cook up your preferred attribute/potentials should get you going. The higher your spellcasting attribute the faster its spells will level, and spell levels are the easiest way to get early damage. Ice arrow should be better than almost anything else a beginner would have, and it helps if you get your flexible starting domains to also have arrow spells. Also succubus is easy mode.

rogue bump

>>534210976
No it is not.

>>534210976
Nope. NARL

DCSS has to be the most frustrating game to watch the devs muddle around with. I'm tired of Achra after 250 hours, and I'm getting tempted to go back and try trunk version DCSS with the retarded Zot changes and shitty shapeshifters. I hate the changelog in trunk lately but it's like the old versions don't have the UI upgrades so I don't like them as much anymore either.

how cute

>>534234385
Instead of working on the game's most glaring issue (pan/hell/tomb), they add a bunch of goofy shit like necromancy ego on armor or fortress crab talisman. This is all because of decentralized game design and weak-willed leadership.

>>534245286
Fortress crab seems completely unusable. To me.
Is it?

-poison seems to means it isn't usable in lair, or in dungeon. If you see a fast poison enemy, you would basically already be dead.
Acid-breath seems good, but -24 hp when you have 80 or so is a lot.
Is the idea that you only ever pull that form out to use against specific uniques when you have prep time? Or is it just shit

>>534245286
the alternative to unpaid hobbyists doing whatever catches their fancy is not a crack team of (still unpaid) experts

Good night, /rlg/

>Playing TOME
>Finally got to level 25 in my breath wyrmic build
>Try play around to see what prodigy is really the best
>Can't, i have to commit to my choice blind or save scum
>Choose save scum
>Fuck it up somehow
>Now i have a dogshit prodigy
>Hours of playing like a bitch to not die wasted
I fucking hate this game
I FUCKING HATE THIS GAME!!!

>>534246391
It's hard to decide what's best because the best options are also quite unfun
For example best for most character (including Wyrmic) is Cauterize because it prevents you from one shot (or dying in general). You'll need to put a Shielding rune on auto cast and wait like 5 minutes to get the spell casting requirement.
I don't get Cauterize because I am often too lazy to do it. The close alternative is Ethereal Armor which gives 25% absolute resistance and is all around better until you get one shotted.
For Breath Wyrmic you can go I can carry the World since it is like the only real way to scale your breathe damage. Or you can be minmaxing and just take Flexible Combat like all the melees and abuse Wyrmic multi hitting attacks.

>>534246891
Im just venting, anon, don't worry about it
I think i want to play another roguelike for now, im burned out of TOME
Any recommendations? The only thing i played so far was TOME and Elona (can't run Elin for some reason)

>>534249393
You could try the orc campaign, it's shorter so you can get back the lvl 25 in say 2-3h instead of 8
I don't think there's anything that quite capture the tome4 feeling for me, I'd play older ARPGs like Diablo 2 when I don't feel like it. Other than that.
Only other roguelike I actually completed was Rift Wizard 1, which was fast but not very deep.

Now I can mix the autismo of roguelikes and dwarve fortress with the autismo of having a harem VN.

>>533587806
Another win.

I've been playing with early game shapeshifting. This has cost me a number of good runs. It seems like I'm considerably weaker this way. However, if one can use full-meld shapeshifting forms in order to consistently survive, then finding a single talisman would be all you need. Less hoping for good armor and weapons would mean a higher % of runs which get what they need
So it seems worth it in the long run.

I left my defensive skills at 12, and as a result I was using death form partway through crypt. This meant that abyss abuse was viable. With full shapeshift skill, I had enough max hp to withstand a few dispel undead in the necromancy hell. Without that, you can occupationally just die in a few turns.

Tomb3 intantly force-teleported me. I landed in the side room, so that was lucky. There isn't much of a threat in there to start with. From here, it was very safe to just toss javalins out of the northern door. Datura bennu did work for me again., this time clearing out the main chamber before I had ever seen it.

Don't underestimate 4 brimstone fiends. If you see that shit, you make sure you're standing next to a damnation-vulnerable monster immediately.

The defensive stats are great. I don't think I've had enough resistances to afford ring of the hare before.

>>534250970
pic rel

Is eraMegaten a roguelike?

>>534252117
Roguelite, similar to mystery dungeon or blobber games.

>Optimized get_units_in_los and can_cast, two very frequently called methods, for significant performance improvements on long-range enemy actions.
The new RW2 dev is working overtime lately.

pls tell me where to go from here.

>>534253357
Money and ways to earn + spend it
Time, calendar, and a day-night system

bros, I just made an incel stalker simulator.

wtf.

I should delete this.

>>534249393
play some Demon

Does this bitch ever fucking go to sleep?

>>534273567
Throw alcohol at her

Throw alcohol at me

>>534196561
If you progress the quests there's eventually a guy that you can give spellbooks to so he can write copies of it and sell it regularly. Hire bookstore clerks/magic shopkeepers at base.

Im trying DoomRL for the first time, is there a way to change the font color? Right now its a dark red on top of a black screen and i can't read shit

>>534212452
anon was bloodthirsty irl too

>>534260756
Is there sex

>>534307039
yes.

this nigga also posts on /fgg/
>>534215717
I guess it's understandable because that general has 0 video game content and is exclusively for gooning

>>534307982
I like fighting games, so is one of the generals I use.

>>534191315
Why not?

>>534190491
how many big missions did you guys finish?

why is rlg full of annoying zoomers all of a sudden

>>534324008
4chan belongs to high-schoolers and those currently failing out of college

>>534324008
unc thinks we don't know about 4chan :wilted_flower:
yakub ksi nazi logan paul white pharoah 'toks sent me here

I'm writing basically a daily routine of 16 anime deres, and have a diferent weekly routine if she's normal, angry, depressed or introverted and if she's a loli, preteen, teen, young adult, adult, mature female.

This will be great fun.

>>534324719
huh

>>534307673
Where is it?

>>534325526
Still working on it.

It's haaaapeniiiiing
2 15's in a row.

This was the goal I set for myself, and that means I'm free to play other characters now. I'm going to keep going until I lose this streak.

I spent the game up until elf 3 using a brandless +3 flail, and then I used a +0 evening star of holy wrath up until crypt 3. At that point, I finally got my okawaru gift, a +4 eveningstar of protection. That's where I finally spent my enchant scrolls.

I finished with 22 armor/dodging/shields skills. That's partially because abyss teleported me away from some javelins I used, twice. I invested a little bit in transolocations so that I could use apportation in an emergency due to the low ammo count. That wasn't actually useful, this time. When you're invisible, you can seriously just walk into the side room and nothing will bother you.

This strongly implies you don't need defense to do tomb, particularly if you have evocable invis. The main thing stopping me from doing tomb before hell and pan is ammo count. Once you've got 22 stealth/throwing/fighting, you still need enough of both special darts, javs, and boomarangs to keep the enemy at a distance. That, and it just seems like more of a risk compared to hell.

>>534327651
Game dropped me 3 floors and gave me a Bailey.
Knew it would kill me, still had to try.
That was quick.

>>534250970
>>534251158
>>534327651
Why did you censor your name d2r123 ?

>>534331898
Indulgence of the premise of the website, namingfag.

>>534324812
No one gives a fuck pajeet

>>534324812
I care, Raj. Ganbatte!

elin is kinda shit
the dungeons are dull, very samey
towns look impressive at first glance but then you realise that you cant actually interact with any of these npcs in any meaningful way, its just skyrim style radiant quests that you pick up from a board then deliver
story cringe as fuck

>>534340340
It's grindslop.
The game makes me think of a single player MMORPG.
But to be fair the skinnerbox design does rope you in if you're not careful.

>>534340892
ya the problem is there is nothing to grind for

>>534343368
the goddess tears system seemed really, really dumb when i played, but I haven't seen a few updates. I'll come back when the story is finished and by then hopefully everything will feel more fleshed out.

The online DCSS client fucking sucks compared to the offline one. Literally the only reason people use it is so they can be parasocial and brag about their scores in a fucking 2D dungeon crawler with a few dozen pixels per enemy.

>>534351230
If there were more pixels, would that make it more worth bragging about?

>mfw some retard tells me magic orb is not good

>>534357228
Any weapon can death ray via scroll.

>>534351230
webtiles is fun because you can glimpse into the abyss of retards that will end every single fight with either 50 "No target in view!" messages scrolling by or a death.

>>534250970
Congrats. MuMo next? If I can make a recommendation: Transmuters. I'm currently trying to figure them out myself and they seem fun, but also kind of hard. Definitely not all forms are useful, and good analysis doesn't really exist online afaict.
>When you're invisible, you can seriously just walk into the side room and nothing will bother you. This strongly implies you don't need defense to do tomb, particularly if you have evocable invis.
Stealth is definitely it's own kind of defensive stat, but you still need to stabilize first. I can't imagine forgoing defenses in favour of stealth will boost winrate.

Good night, /rlg/

>>534366959
Draconian transmuter, my original love, actually.

Or, shapeshifter, I guess. This seems... these seem way weaker. I'm starting to suspect that unarmed combat is doing all of the work, and that my investments in shapeshifting aren't actually doing anything.

What is more able to kill an ork warlord, do you think? An iceform drake, or a normal draconian which spent that exp on more dodge/fighting/unarmed?

>>534367745
based.
>I'm starting to suspect that unarmed combat is doing all of the work
Same, it is definitely hard to get working. I'm >>534207005 (werewolf troll) and can now pretty confidently say that the form is weaker on trolls than no form at all, because the missing AC on trolls really makes a difference.
Serpent form (snake) seemed really good and ahead of the powercurve in lair branches. More HP and better defences than troll meant I could easily fight hydras in swamp.
It especially synergized with hybridization. Jumping to enemies with vhi's really helped, blink got me out of some bad situation, and ozos is almost mandatory.
>What is more able to kill an ork warlord, do you think? An iceform drake, or a normal draconian which spent that exp on more dodge/fighting/unarmed?
I definitely think the normal draconian, in my run ice form was very underwhelming. (especially in orc, were lack of mr gets you paralized so not even EV works). It might work for lair, though.
But remember that ice/fire form give wizardry effect for their respective schools, so in a way this makes the shapeshifting more experience-efficient. I want to investigate this.
Maw seems good early, an aux attack that heals you.
Fortress form gives you an acid cloud, I think this might actually be stronger than baseline fighter too in defeated heavy enemies.

>>534357228
>12 mana a turn to do what the gauntlet can do for free
>and you have to stand way out on the map perpendicular to waves
The orb is okay, but mostly for the poison attack moreso than anything else.

>>534245780
It's good for Nagas in theory. Your rPois will cancel out the -rPois; you lose innate AC and tail but you also lose the deformed mutation, and your speed very slightly impoves.

Other than that, it's probably meant to be used on heavy armor melee chars that randomly stumble on it, or shapeshifters that also found a really good heavy armor. The -rpois is theoritically manageable with flux baubles and lignification outside of the poison S-branches.

>>534379969
it's lets you skip training shields. Does it remove encumbrance too? If yes, I could see how to utilize it

>>534379969
Depressing that the best case scenario for shapeshifting forms is usually "if the downsides don't hurt your species much, and if we ignore the opportunity cost and squint, it'll look usable for a few floors."

>>534388487
It's decent at making a caster useful in melee, or giving a melee character some casting boosts. And it in theory allows you to pump one skill and use a bunch of varied forms tailored to the situation.
That is if it didn't basically mandate massive dumps into shapeshifting and unarmed, require training a bunch of secondary skills to actually do anything, and invalidate all your equipment fucking over 99% of all possible characters and locking the remaining dedicated shapeshifters into a ghetto of playing roulette hoping they get lucky with item drops they can actually use.
This is a problem with a lot of the recent changes, it seems like every ability/skill/item is tied to a specific playstyle and doesn't mesh or synergize with anything else.
One more thing in the pile of crystal plate armor as a mage and the necornomicon as literally anything but a pure necromancer.

>>534388487
>>534379969
Could it be good on Gnoll or Djinni, use the forms to narrow your focus instead of broadening it, you won't get the endgame forms as a Gnoll but you automatically make any of them work depending on the situation.
Gargoyles are also kinda interesting since they can stack the AC and ignore the poison vulnerability.

>>534358498
>he takes death ray scroll over energy pot
baka
>>534376445
>mana
>issue
maybe if your build sucks. teleport + blink + portal stones = i have global map presence
>30 poison on 3x3
nah, if you want poison there's rose and hand crossbow. druid staff if you have a propagation fetish

>>534324375
I'm failing up in college