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Thanquol soon, friends!

OP is the rattranny?

Be a good person

after dealing with the chaos dwarfs our heroes move south to seal the tombs of silver pinnacle and strike the ancient grudge from the book

*stacks this on every hero*
problem, dawi?

>8 months for a fucking dlc

>>533627084
It was that or Lords of Shang Yang.

>>533627243
what's wrong with lords of shang yang

>>533627397
people didnt want 2 years of nothing but cathay DLCs

news report: squirefags too stupid to move to the town center

>valiant defeat
..my ass

>>533627735
I think the chinese (people who actually play the game) wouldn't have minded

>>533627802
I remember when I was posting CoW in /twg/ over 10 years ago and people called me a retard for even hinting of the possibility of an official total war warhammer.

>>533627056
What does the passive do?

>>533627841
who gives a fuck what soulless chinks want? they can make their own games

>replaying Skrag already yet again
Yep, he's my favourite Ogre.
>two big lads, surrounded by gnoblars and their pets (beasts)
Good time.

How much does unit levels actually mean?
LIke is a lvl 50 lord stronger than a lvl 1 lord if he hasn't assigned any skill points?

>>533628653
Unit levels (chevrons) matter because they add stats to them. Lord/hero levels only matter in autoresolve, lvl 1 lord is the same as lvl 50 if it didn't use them points.

>>533629268
Cool, never really paid any mind to the chevron levels of regular units until now

>>533629553
How long have you been playing tw anon

>play beta with new sieges
>still can break down gates with chariots
>send a hero to the two required capture points each
>use Settra to hold of the enemy units
siege "rework" is completly useless as long as the attacker can still win without losing a single unit

>>533629692
about 50 hours all in total warhammer 3

the smartest khornate warrior got his ass perfectly trapped by 4 twigs

>>533630685
What mod for unit stats? Haven't seen this one.

>AI has twice as many provinces/allies/income/armies as you do
>They camp on their settlements and never budge unless you straight up leave your settlements open
Realistically how do you fix this without just dumbing down the difficulty

>>533631065
by fix do you mean make it harder? because that is exactly how you want the ai to play

if you attack them while they are in settlements you camp the reinforcement point and wipe them all out, then you pepper the defenders with missiles

outside of empty army marching stance lord ambush bait and lightning rush for the first twenty turns I straight up do not know how to play this game on legendary difficulty

>>533631065
skill issue
there are very good ways to to lure enemy armies out of their settlements

Holy shit dude the Sisters are way stronger than I thought my monettes couldnt even damage their glade guard wtf happened here?

>>533632452
https://vocaroo.com/1UJdhJEZ34Ot

Omfg does anyone know what happened to my research rate? I saved yesterday before a battle and everything was fine, finished the battle today and suddenly this happened

>>533632452
>3 darkshards

you have no one to blame but yourself

>>533632778
I thought they'd be outranged so i didnt bother making them I thought Welves were all ranged units

>>533632726
Urks, Grobi, Raki, Umgi, Elgi and Zangunaz are probably using the steal research hero ability on you. Thagg them.

>>533632452
>Daemonmanii units in army
>Loses the battle
Huh yeah weird

>>533633134
you have to run heroes around their missile units disrupting them and revealing them while your sharts kill them

its not fun but fighting WE is one of the least fun things in this entire game as any faction

>tfw playing as Khazrak in warhammer 2
Any tips?
I've raided from Estalia up through Bretonnia and was hoping to get Louen Leoncouer's defeat trait and maybe knock out Couronne. Couronne have Gotrek and Felix leading one of their armies and Gotrek has unbreakable so I don't know if I'll be able to roll over them so easily with my shitty mostly-ungor army.
I was thinking about fighting Skarsnik to get his defeat trait before heading toward the Empire to fuck em up.

>>533631328
I have no missiles (Slaanesh)

>>533631946
They do come out once in a while, but then I have to replenish while they summon a new stack out of their magical bottomless treasure vault
I won't deny it's a skill issue tho since some people beat Legendary and I don't

just me or is the battle ai super messed up in sieges? they start the battle in this tight box formations and then they ended up all over the place hugging the walls

>>533633889
yeah well slaanesh needs the DLC to be worthwhile outside of microing nkari to 1000+ kills solo

>>533633889
best way to do it is to put your army in ambush stance in high ambush chance terrain and then ambush the army as it moves out and then on your next turn you take out the emptied out settlement

>sieges are totally fixed bro

>>533635147
>plays beta
>wtf why are there bugs

>>533634626
I somehow assumed the DLC brought content only if playing as WoC. Oh well. Creaming the API becomes more tempting each day
At least it's not glaring obvious like Kislev having no dedicated tier 1 melee infantry without the DLC (I dare not imaging how hard Boris' campaign is without the dlc)

>>533635234
>the same bugs that we already had 9 years ago
>people act that CA is totally fixing the problem now

What is your favorite unit in the game? For me it's outriders.

>>533633509
Asrai chads, stay winning!

>>533627735
I'd rather have that than what we're actually getting. Cathay has a great roster but their starts are too boring, would rather get more lords for them than one pack with three dumb melee brute factions then one with yet another elf and slaany trannies.

holy shit I can't believe I've been sleeping on ulrika this long, this bitch fucks
>vanguard deploy gotrek and felix and charge them directly into enemy army
>drop pit of shades
>win

>>533635147
Pathfinding is a separate issue from seiges that still needs improvement.

>>533636967
>this bitch fucks
yeah, me sorry she's all mine HAHAHAHAHA

>>533630816
helper ui

>>533627084
>8 months for a fucking dlc for the most boring fucking factions in the game

>>533636967
before empire got engineers, she was the only empire hero that increased campaign movement range
now for kislev she plays that role

>>533634609
It's not just you, it's like they didn't program the AI in any sensible way and just have it move units around randomly.

>>533631946
name 10 that aren't recruit a level 1 lord to follow you as ambush bait

>>533636547
Dreadquake Mortars, nothing more satisfying than watching that glowing projectile fall on a blob of infantry and explode in a mushroom cloud.

Question about Tzeentch - I'm doing my first Kairos campaign and enjoying it, despite it being incredibly frustrating start with giga nigga lizardmen to the side and Teclis starting with a bunch of phoenixes for some reason, but Tzeentch roster is fun enough that I'm still having a blast.

That said I was able to get Sarthorael through the recruit defeated LLs and I'm torn between which of his "Uniques" to pick:

Touch of Dust, which is his attacks cause soul-leech damage (76-125) and Executioner ("Instantly kill units below 20% HP"), a +100% Spell Intensity but silence other heroes effect or a +1000hp barrier and +50% Missile Block

Executioner sounds too good to be true if I can just focus fire a unit and then have Sarth instagib the last 30 or so models unless it doesn't work that way? And I don't think he's beefy in melee enough to really leverage the "soul leech damage", so the +100% Spell Intensity is calling to me but I'm afraid it might be bait. Otherwise I'm also torn on the barrier since that feels like it would be great to tie down other flyers while wasting enemy ammo.

Please advise ;_;

>>533636967
>Letting a filthy v*mpire into your army

>>533634678
>Retard legitimately thinks the AI ever falls for ambushes that aren't Alith/Skaven/Beastmeme ambush stance attacks

I hope you enjoy your 97% chance Ambush Foiled

>>533637650
Oh that one. It was incompatible with my other ui mods, but I see it was made compatible about a year ago. Well that's good, thanks.

I bought three steam tanks, economy tanked in response, so I made this photo.

>>533640486
works on my legendary campaigns, better verify those game files son

>>533640731
>works on my cheats
ftfy

>>533640791
>everything that I can't do is cheating

>>533640346
executioner only works on lords and heroes, if you mouse over it it will specify this
they are all strong

>>533641668
Alright, from reading it it just said "Instantly kills units below 20% HP" - so it makes sense it's only for Lords/Heroes (No SEMs?) but it wasn't clear from reading it.

I think I'll take spell intensity then, I can get faux melee combat/ammo waster with two exalted heroes on discs but can't get spell intensity anywhere else

>>533641998
There is also a generic item with executioner (not sure if Tzeentch can get it or not but most races can) so you might still be able to get it if tou want to, and yeah it's only lords and heroes

>>533626791 (OP)
What is the perfect Bretonnian army for REPANSE

>>533630685
That army is giving me PTSD attacks.. are you some 500apm starcraft player?

>>533637654
Slaanesh is great

>>533642960
just spam knights like in the other Bretonnian factions
I prefer Grail Knights or Pegasus for cycle charging and Questing Knights for prolonged melee fighting

>>533640346
Spell Intensity is best imo. Double strength spells is incredible. You can delete entire unit with singular bombardment. Walls? More like free kills buffet. Field battle? Oops a vortex just deleted 90% of your front line.

In contrast Touch of Dust is alright but only for lord/hero sniping that are almost dead already. Against anything dangerous you simply cannot keep Sarth in melee long enough for the DoT to matter. Rather take 100% intensity and melt the lord much faster with double Final Transmutation. As for barrier, just no. Whats 1000hp extra against ranged/melee when you could just take extra spell intensity and remove them? If that 1000hp saves you often enough to be worth it and you cast so few spells +100% doesnt have worth, stop playing on mushrooms.

>>533640486
Even if you don't actually get the ambush you can still bait the enemy into a battle with a larger force than it expected since your ambush army is still hidden from it.

>>533643663
>since your ambush army is still hidden from it
blud genuinely thinks the AI doesn't know where your stacks are at all times

>>533644026
>ambush gets detected
>noooo the ai is cheating
Let me guess, cheat user?

>>533644026
Yes, I actually play the game so I know that this works.

>>533644303
>>533644320
>Trust bro the AI will surely leave the settlement because you put your army on ambush stance

E/E behaviour.

>>533643634
And what is your secret for FUNDING all that

A reminder that the Chaos Lord of Tzeentch has:
Great melee defence
Anti-large
Armour-piercing
Barrier
Silver shield

Playing total war pharaoh and just thinking, what must I do for people to remember my name for 3000 years?

>>533645353
I turned one of mine into a demon prince. I regret it. The demon prince is pure trash.

>>533637654
If they can un-fuck Norsca, that would be a good step in the right direction.

>>533645673
Add Daemon Prince updates to the list of things that CA needs to work on.

>Stupid autistic math incoming: lets see how Sky Lantern performs when all stars align to its favor:

Scenario A) against heavy infantry (Chaos Warriors GW)
Assume 100% accuracy and 2 guns firing, at all times, and no overkill ever happens. Lantern deals 114 damage per 12 seconds after armor, or 9.5 DPS. It'll take roughly 8 minutes to kill single Chaos Warriors unit.

Scenario B) against SEM, say Shaggoth
Again 100% shots hit. Shaggoth dies in a bit over 7 minutes of constant firing.
Despite Shaggoth rocking solid 70 armor and Peasant Archers having measly 1ap, with same assumptions one unit of Peasant Archers would kill the Shaggoth in 1min 30 seconds

>>533645796
I thought
>hey, the demon prince gets the melee AND mage line of the human lords, this gotta be amazing, right?
>he gets the worst spells of metal and tzeentch
>he doesn't buff chosen anymore with 10% phys resist
>his stats are just way worse
And that for half his levels sacrificed. It's a fucking nightmare.
The Tzeentch demon prince should get full Tzeentch spells, another line of spells with all different lores like Teclis used to have, get select options to buff whatever he needs and then amazing bound spells like summon horrors and barrier replenishment.

this campaign is finally getting interesting

>>533645604
you either need to be really sexy, really bloodthirsty, or just insane to the extent where people think you're a god

>>533646278
Can I be your god?

Interest in Total War is so low that nobody is even bothering to leak anything.

>>533646134
>sky lanterns
>cannot be eaten by chaos warhounds
>peasant archers
>will be eaten by chaos dogs before 30 seconds have passed
I think it's clear who is the winner here.
>but...
stop corner camping.

>>533646350
first you must display your power or make me submit, I will not follow blindly

>>533643646
This, touch of dust is okay but even on sarthoreal who has better stats than other lords of change he's just not a stout enough fighter to make it really good.

>>533646507
good, ""leaks"" are cancer and do more harm than good

>>533646603
If you don't follow me I will make your peepee into vagaina!

>>533646507
https://youtu.be/IwTNu9P9o2A?si=NKdYCNwf3qkytXGK

>>533626791 (OP)
>things that wont exist edition

>>533647113
thats old numbers from like a month ago tho

>>533647394
But enough about 40k total war

Be good play pharaoh.

>>533648603
Be a good pharaohsen?

>>533636547
archers, nothing comes close to their cost/output

>>533643391
>>533645759
hes talking about omens

NEW LEAKS JUST DROPPED

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB9soL2TbLM

Stop playing rats.

I will leak all over your tablets

Is Irsu the Ravager a good campaign for conquering the world and making a multi-national host of locally recruited units?

>>533646136
Even a bald manlet has better spell selection than Daemon Prince of Sorcery lmao.

>>533642960
Full of peasants and only a few knights.
I just finished a repanse campaign and had 4 questing knights in my army. I also had a damsel, 4 men-at-arms, 2 foot squires, 2 spearmen-at-arms, 2 polearms guys, and 3 fire arrow bowmen -and Henri of course.
I wanted to try having only 2 questing knights and adding in another fire arrow bowmen and 1 more of foot squires, but by the time I could get around to it my other units in Repanse's army were reaching level 7 and the new recruits would be the weakest ones in the army so I just stuck with the 4 questing knights.

Build loads of armouries in every province capital to give your peasants more armour. At the end of my campaign I had 8 armouries in my capitals and my foot squires had 110 armour and 20% physical resistance (with skills put into Repanse's red line skills obviously).

>>533649480
no one cares about your husband

>>533649480
liked and commented :)

Best dawi units for my empire gunpowder army?

Kholak sneedfeeder

does this mean that with gorbad you're basically supposed to use specialized armies or in effect is it just "pick a unit you like that gets buffed and have more of that unit in this army" type thing?

>>533652372
anything small

>>533652372
grudgerakers for your gunline

Rockets->Longgunners->Ironsides->Grudgeraker Stunties, in order

>>533653043
metafags will tell you there there is only 3 planz you should ever use for optimal play and you have to build all your armies around that
in reality, the point is to build an army around a specific unit or two that you think is cool, and look into the planz first to see what other units you need in your army to make the planz work
the bonuses are strong enough that optimal play is unnecessary and you're supposed to experiment

My body is a machine that turns decisive victories into close defeats

>>533653435
yeah im playing on normal anyway so there's no reason to metafag thanks for the tip
i'm back from a months hiatus and unsure where to play, badlands is annoying couz of the enemies in all sides thing but I wanna try out the DLC lords I haven't tried, last campaign was cathay/beastmen/elspeth, might do dwarfs after this i guess, or naggarond dark elves ive never played dark elves, hm...

>>533653694
badlands are rough, personally as Gorbad I like to slowly expand north instead of south and eventually into the empire, that way skarsnik and azhag can both be confederated if they haven't been wiped out, and you can take out the dwarfs before they become too strong
Gorbad does really well with confederated legendary lords since his factionwide bonuses stack with their army bonuses

>>533654169
thanks for the tips senpai
played a lot of rome 2 these days so literally tried to get these things into diamond formation

but charge formations in wh3 afaik were a special ability that only a few cavalry units have so u dont have to bother

>>533654389
I just like having an excuse to talk about da boyz
formations in general is something only a few units have unfortunately
squig herds are just war beasts, they can't do much but they're cute~

>~
Stop typing like faggots and women and faggots pretending to be women

>install several "AI improvement" mods
>AI starts corner camping on the reinforcement spawn point
this is ass

>>533655565
If that reinforcement spawn point is their own reinforcements how exactly is that stupid?

>>533655096
sorry

>>533655565
i think if CA can't figure out smart AI then some dudes on workshop certainly can't, its too complciated

>>533655654
they made the AI play like a faggot because they expect players to pull this stuff. it isn't even any harder because they can't use formations or cavalry, just means I have to spend a turn or 2 chasing down their half-dead armies

>>533655982
>I think if 40 DEI vibecoders in an aircon office in the UK can't figure it out with no incentive to, then surely a polish man in his basement that has done nothing but mod games he loves will also not be able to

this you?

>>533655019
what do war beasts even mean TW wise, they're still meant to be used like cav for flanking and charges right

>’biggest expansion in the warhammer series coming next year’ (jk delayed to 2027)
>dogs of war
>endtimes (nagash, thanquol, assorted chaos, chaos invasion endgame crisis)
>other (please explain)
What’s your pick?
I don’t like the story of the endtimes, but as a chaos and skavenfag, and would love to see bonedaddy, I gotta go with that. Also that seems the most likely for a narrative campaign, which I actually like those.

>>533656649
Nagash was WEAK

>>533656292
it depends on the type, but mainly yes
fast, cheap ones like squig herd are used like expendable light cavalry, charge them into vulnerable troops like archers, or into the back lines if you just need a leadership shock
squigs are going to rampage anyways so once you charge them in you can forget about them until they die or run off and idle somewhere which is nice

>>533656157
Yeah, because it's stupid not to deploy near your reinforcements to consolidate. Sounds like you're just retarded.

>>533656292
War beasts cover a whole range of units to the point that its not useful as a descriptor to a casual.
>as you said, dogs and god-like (ex: feral cold ones) are light cav
>shit like manticores and beasts of nurgle are low-tier sem
>dragons and hydras are high tier sem
>screamers, flesh hounds, chrace lions, razorgors are weird low model medium cav
>many beasts are simply referred to as monsterous inf (like rat ogres, which dont even fill the role of monstrous inf)
>fellbats and furies are low tier flying chaff
>etc.

bros is it just me or are UI elements like this in WH3 a bit low res/blurry for some reason? like i swear its more blurry than it should be, 1440p

Is there a mod that lets you earn xp even if you're defeated? Some factions starts snowballing like crazy because the defeated faction never get to level up

>>533656649
The one on the right is a cool outfit

>>533652372
whatever their engineer hero is called

>>533657034
sounds like you play like a faggot

>>533656649
dogs of war is (and has been for years) been badly needed to flesh out the tilean and estalian factions. just give them something, they've been "empire but worse" forever

how are goblins related to orcs even
they're both part of the greenskin race right
but goblins will usually always be on the lower hierarchy and if ur a goblin you're just fucked for life because you can never become an orc?

>want to WAAAAAGH
>stuck at work until tomorrow
Dis’ git is krumped.
>>533657769
Tell that to Grom

>>533657552
>sounds like you use tactics in a war game!!!
Not the slam dunk you think it is.

I only play Total War games that incentivise hammer and anvil tactics.

>>533657769
night goblins and forest goblins operate fine without orcs in the tabletop fluff
and of course there's grom
I don't think that their genetics or relatedness (between orcs and gobbos) is ever touched on though

>>533658047
>>sounds like you abuse game mechanics in a tactics sim
ftfy

>>533658093
so.... all of them?

>>533657769
orcs, goblins and a few others like snotlings and maybe squigs(?) are all part of the same genetic family
they are all bullies by nature and goblins are naturally lower in society, which is why you see a lot more tribes of just goblins than just orcs
they can still climb the ladder by being especially cunning, brutal, or FAT

>>533658093
>hammer and anvil
Look at this poindexter.
I just smash em’ with my anvil.
t. WoC main

>>533658201
Choosing where you deploy so that it's closer to your reinforcements is abusing game mechanics? Lmfao the absolute state of cheatsfag mindrot.

pharaoh has good battle maps that encourage tactics

>>533655565
AI literally used to do this, anon.
In pre-WH games if the AI had reinforcements coming, it would withdraw towards its reinforcement spawn point, set up a defensive line there, wait for the reinforcements to arrive and join formation and then advance together.

You break this up by attacking before the reinforcements arrive, either drawing their army into a battle and defeating it in detail, or pulling off pieces of it that can be isolated and destroyed while the AI resists committing full to battle.

A lot of Ai behaviours can be ported back and forth between different TW games because the fundamental architecture never changes, just how the game's memory handles the invisible pathfinding routes hardcoded onto battle maps.

I want Slaanesh DLC and I want it now!

I want to set up a formation and win with 0 apm
which race/lord should i go for?

Is it just me or are reiskguard knights just kinda shit?
>too slow to properly do back line clean up
>too weak to do their work of hammer in the hammer and anvil thing
You're better off with cheaper light cavalry for archery cleaning duty.

I wonder what daily life is like in the evil/warlike species, like if a goblin's neighbor is about to die and he can easily save him would he save his neighbor

or let him borrow a tool or something

>>533658514
that's what I've been doing to and it completely ruins the challenge when they break formation like that. they leave their slower artillery behind and can't get their cav out of the blob, sometimes they even get pinned so close to the border their ranged units go into melee
battles were much more enjoyable when they just held a line and had a second army approach also in formation. I could just afk for the first 5 minutes to let the full army form up, but they were already doing that without the corner camping

>>533655096
Does it turn you on big guy~

Tried the minor faction buff option, it was interesting but I don't think I will turn it on again, this is kinda ridiculous. Also since the Elector counts didn't collaspe immediately, I actually have to confederate the states to steal their capitals.

It's really getting frustrating to see Chaos, Humans, Greenskins, Liggers and Chinks just ignore each other and only go for the player
So immersion breaking

>>533655565
AI does this normally for me

are Doom Knights of Tzeentch ever worth it? Going from 60 units to 24 to just gain anti-large and flying at the expense of charge bonus (plus the -60% entities) doesn't seem worthwhile unless I'm desperately out for fliers to engage artillery

>>533659463
for skaven or dark elves, if their neighor jsut died they would be more relieved than anything
greenskins just wouldn't care, they don't see any difference between beating someone to death or a playful fistfight

>>533659076
treekin stack

>>533659076
nurgle

>>533660747
there has to be like SOME level of cohesion and trust for any society/city to do the bare mionimum of functioning though, like it wouldn't work if everyone was wishing each other death all the time

>More meat... uh, I mean, men.
What did Irsu mean by this?

>>533660707
P sure they dont have bvl.
Anyways, you’re trading models for unmatched mobility on extremely elite models.
1 doomknight unit pretty much secures air control in addition to extremely hard to kill backline pressure.

>>533661016
I get it then, they're not replacement for my ground Lance Tzeentch Knights, they're replacement for my flying Cockatrices/Screamers

>>533660876
dark elf society is retarded when you think about it, for a bunch of different reasons
that's kind of the whole point of skaven, they are strong enough to wipe out every other race several times over but they fight amongst themselves more than anyone
greenskins are just belligerent and may or may not kill each other, they just don't think about it much

>>533661339
of all those I'd say chaos aligned human settlements would be the most chill just cause they act like humans while worshipping chaos gods i guess

>>533661460
>most chill just cause they act like humans while worshipping chaos gods
I'm really hoping the new dlc isn't going to be monsterslop so we can see this side of Norsca in-game, chaos aligned humas are chill as fuck

>>533661770
>monster are slop
>chaosmanii aren't
weird

He seems trustworthy enough.

>Besiege a city inland
>Enemy army inside of it retreats through my army forcing me to take the city and be 2 turns behind chasing it as it goes into my lands or abandon the siege

>Besiege a coastal city
>Army inside of it retreats out to sea

what's even the POINT of besieging anything?

I'm the other guy who's playing Tzeentch but I think I'm gonna drop it, I took Antarctica and now I'm just steamrolling everything with the money that's coming in from it. The search for a satisfying campaign continues...

>>533662706
when it comes to Norsca, yes they need more manii more

>>533662967
spoiler every campaign gets boring after first 30 turns and everything is stable

>>533662837
>besiege a city inland
you can only retreat out of settlements with a port
But to answer your question, yes, besieging is shit and always has been.

>>533662967
Campaign starts at ultimate crisis

>>533663783
yet those armies will pose no threat at all and you will simply stomp anything and everything because its not turn 15

>>533663783
Nope, I'm better at this game than you and I lost the region immediately because AI rolls up with 4 stacks on the settlement full of monstrous units that'll wear your stack + shitty garrison

>>533664220
>I'm better at this game than you
lmao

>>533645353
Don't forget he regenerates everyone's barrier around him and he has a snare that nukes the enemy's MA. He also has a cool fucking voice although not as cool as the chaos sorceror lord of tzeentch

>make maps bigger
>where the border of the map would normally be, it's the border for getting a leadership penalty
>the further you go beyond this border, the stronger the leadership penalty
>also get stronger the longer you stay out
there, I fixed battlefields and corner camping for future total war games

>>533646136
Yeah its so stupid that all the demon prince upgrades are literal downgrades
Who the fuck approved this shit at GS

>>533665487
How did you steal my idea?

I really wish for customizable garrisons that you have to pay extra maintenance for or whatever
There was a hint of CA maybe working on something like that in the future, in their siege update posts
Now I'm full on copium and hopium

>>533665487
>>533665825
so basically just make control the center an objective? sounds like a simpler fix

>>533666160
No that's retarded
Distance penalties on leadership are better, your goal is to destroy the army, not capture point

>>533666396
but it wouldn't fix corner camping with arty/ranged cause leadership is irrelevant, you melt the enemy army anyways

only way to fix it is to consciously not do it for immersion/fun sake

>>533666160
not the same thing
Imagine if you are playing an artillery heavy army. In your example you would have to rush with your artillery to the middle point like a moron. In the example before you can take up a defensive position, but now the enemy still has an opportunity to outflank you.

>this is a viable retreat zone

>>533665896
Well the technology is there, in Pharaoh you could fill an outpost with whatever units you wanted to, and while garrisoned they would have 50% upkeep

>>533666751
technically it's the most realistic retreat zone in the game because it's one where the enemy wouldn't actually want to follow you

The fact that upon daemonhood ascension the lords have their original traits changed for another random basic trait has to easily be the stupidest, most annoying mechanic in the entire game, and I shit down the throat upon any piece of shit developer who devised and implemented it. Damn you all for this.

>>533666798
true, maybe it would be like that part in berserk and the escaped soldiers would fuck in a cave before regrouping with the main army

>>533666997
They didn't purposefully implement it, its just lazyness and oversight because they do not play the game
Its much easier to just make a new lord and delete the old one

imagine a star wars total war.

>>533666997
on the flipside at least by the time you get to ascend a second lord the difficulty of the campaign is basically over and traits dont matter

>>533667659
just like 40k it would be shit because you cannot implement flying units (a big part of these settings) without them either being retarded or extremely overpowered

>>533667659
lame compared to 40k, star wars is the most kiddie shit ever

wowee the stormtroopers keep missing the goofy lil droids lol!! roger dodger

>>533667861
you can have strafing runs bombing runs etc as powers, no need to control them directly, works in tons of RTS dawn of war included (soulstorm did have flying units but they're pure clunk and ass)

Total war Warcraft 3

Total War: Clankers vs. Darwinists

>>533667861
empire at war did it well

>>533668345
okay can you PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME what clanker means, everyone started saying it like 3 days ago and act like everyone knows what it means and it makes me ANGRY

>>533656649
Easily dogs of war. All of the southern realms and most human settlements in Lustria are still just Empire placeholders. Nagash is cool and all, but he DOESN'T need an entire new super faction for himself, just the ability to recruit from existing undead factions. He as well as Neferata and Thanquol work fine as single lord DLCs that CA already promised.

AS for all the Chaos shit in ET content? Forget that, the DLCs we already got already had the devs digging at the bottom of the barrel to find enough units. At this point you're just asking for Glottkin.

>>533667659
We had one, it was called Empire At War and it remains a classic icon of the genre.

>>533668345
based

>>533668568
zoomers use it for AI now, it means robot couz they clank
its popularized by star wars droids
also this niche teen novel pic rel the central powers are "clankers" and they use machinery while entente use bio-tech

>>533668024
This. It's functionally identical to having magical nukes in WH except you get to see the plane fly in and perform the strike instead of just conjuring a magic skull out of thin air.

>>533660707
To me it seems that they're incredibly fragile in sustained melee and if the AI controls them they will suicide them straight into a blob of melee units. It might be better just to put a tzeentch chaos lord/exalted hero on a disc. I use them anyway because with tabletop caps they use 2 rare points instead of the chaos knight's 2 special points which are competing with aspiring champions and chosen

>Spawn
>Declare war on player
>Run straight for the most well-defended settlement in the province
>Die
I love the Beastmen AI so much its unreal

>>533667659
What era would it be set in? Old Republic or Legacy would be best since there would be more than two each of both Jedi and Sith, but you know Disney wouldn't allow them to use the old EU.

>>533669261
>suicide into well defended province
>autoresolve doesn't kill them all
>hidden encampment for 5 turns
>now has a full stack
>beast paths straight for your most undefended settlement
nothing personnel man filth

>>533668758
hmm makes sense

>>533669821
>autoresolve doesn't kill them all
this doesn't happen unless its like 1 lord

>>533670089
It has happened to me multiple times thoughbeitever

>>533669261
If I'm playing Chaos I usually just let them hang out. Poor guys deserve a break now and again.

>>533661192
Basically. There's also couple good reasons why you would want to take couple Doom Knights:
1) To protect Changebringers, since they fold to pretty much everything in melee
2) To quickly remove artillery: cavalry can get bogged down by enemy cavalry or anti-large, knights just fly over them
3) For sieges: they remove archers from walls quickly, can skip straight to enemy artillery at control point and attack units on barrier platforms without having to slowly grind down the barrier first.

That was fun. I kinda wanna play Arbaal now. I'm addicted to Khorne

>>533670716
you should play Valkia

Maybe I'll play Lokhir, at least late game Tyrion should give me the challenge I seek?

>>533671884
You know what, I might. Does she get the Khorne movement bonus stuff? not sure how WOC work

>>533669378
>What era would it be set in?
I'd love Clone Wars

>>533672771
>lasermaniii
>jedimaniii
>sithmaniii
>droidmaniii
>clonemaniii

>>533672448
She gets a shitty version of it.
WoC are fun, but she plays less like khorne than you seek.
Wish I had the time/patience to make that ‘confederate CoCs into monogods’ mod I keep telling myself I’ll do.

>>533672448
Adding onto >>533672946
>focus on capturing dark fortresses
>raze/sell anything else that isn’t a resource location
>you can choose to nurture/attack/ignore your vassals
>i personally only take lore-appropriate vassals, but you can take a ton of LL factions as vassals and they can be strong
>stay aggressive, but dont sweat bloodletting as her
>keep the post-battle loot gift of chaos on all the time

>>533672448
she gets some of the khorne movement stuff, but not as much
this is balanced by the fact that she gets all the buffs available to WoC, which is a whole different set off buffs than the khorne ones
she also gives chosen in her personal army vanguard deployment which is insane, and she can get spellcasters if you want

Which LL are you going to play when Medieval 3 comes out?

>>533673601
whichever one is the oldest so i can finish the game as my heir

the encampment battles in Pharaoh feel really good as the defender

>>533673601
>excommunicated for counterattacking an aggressive catholic neighbor
>decide to assassinate the pope for being a faggot and to get me back in the church's good graces
>wounded!
>he'll be back in 3 turns

>>533672946
I have seen mods that add her to Khorne but apparently there are issues with them, especially if you use her as the faction leader. Less issues if you just confed her.

>>533673335
Ok I'll do a Valkia playthrough after I'm back from the store. Should be neat, I rarely play factions in that part of the map

533673419
>she also gives chosen in her personal army vanguard deployment
ZAMN!

>>533673803
not as good as Rome 2 with pikemen

>>533673601
Joan of Arc

Skavenbros…

This has to be a bug right?

How the heck are you supposed to rebuild your armies when your infrastructure with all your new units is anything from 2-3 provinces or more away? I've been trying to get Grimgor Black Orcs but he's non stop smashing gits, and Global Recruitment costs are insane.

Am I really supposed to just build an army exclusively for transporting new units and take the supply line hit

>>533676292
there are no ratfags in /twg/

>>533676694
What are you talking about
Greenskins get tons of money from battle so you should easily be able to handle the global costs lmao
They're great for global recruitment, encamp stance is insanely strong

>>533675735
Valkia is a very kino and underrated campaign imo, the only downside is she starts in a corner and not everyone likes that
a couple of mods I reccomend for her:
Dark Fortress Expansion 2 makes it so that you have more dark fortresses going south so you can expand in more directions
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3024679451
Cultists for Champions of Chaos gives her the cultist hero from the Khorne roster
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2857177478
Chaos Wastes is good for anyone on the corners of the map but it gives you easy access to the east if you want
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2955525335
This mod gives her a cute cultist waifu if you like that, she is OP though so be warned
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2831594644

>>533676231
I never played Rome 2, although I tried a few times
did they have encampment battles in that game?
after numerous attempts at playing almost every total war game, Pharaoh is the first besides limited success with Troy that I have been able to get into besides Warhammer and it is very exciting to enjoy new things

Give me ONE (1) reason as to why i should recruit Archers over Lothern Sea Guard

>>533677353
Rome 2 and Attila both had it, Pharaoh just brought it back along with Empire/Napoleon type fort battles

>>533677114
Appreciate it anon

>>533676243
Haha, silly anon! Med 3 will be a historical game, not fantasy

>>533677356
longer range and faster shooting
there, have 2 reasons

>>533667882
No my dumb sci-fi series is le heckin serious and grim you wouldn't get it mom!!!

>>533677356
Lothern sea guard might as well be spearmen
Also dont bother with archers either, trash unit

>>533677550
3 chinkdoms has it as well

>>533676894
Stop besmirching the lizardposter's good name, we all smell your shit

>>533676694
The Greenskin economy is incredibly simple
How are you so bad

>>533655096
What does "~" mean anyway

>>533626791 (OP)
Fun memories

>>533677550
did they have sally out battles as well? I didn't have a screenshot

>when the squire who thought he was about to get stomped by a minotaur looks up 10 seconds later

>>533679167
Proper sally out battles as in the defender actually starts in the city and has to go through the gates? No. Honestly I don't think they've been in the series since Medieval 2, Shogun 2 started the trend of sally out battles just being a field battle with the city in the background.

OGRES

>WE WUZ TAALS CHILDREN AND SHIEEEET
As bad as CA is (and I have not forgotten the Daughters of Mars debacle) at least they havent made Damsels black or inserted random women into Empire state troops

>>533679198
I thought Bretonnian knights were all male?

>>533679443
Ponder the aroma...

>>533679374
It doesn't start in the city in Pharaoh, it's how you described it in Shogun 2. the settlement is on the map but you can't go inside
it starts in a favorable position at least since you can't really get flanked

>>533679198
>is that a lance in your pocket or are you just pleased to see us?

So I finally got a pc and want to play rtw2 but its 60 on steam. Anyone know a good site to torrent it?
The game is like 10 years old it should be free

>>533679071
The peak of the total war life cycle.

>>533679572
not anymore

>>533676648
undercity not safe from dwarf-thing threat-menace, yes-yes

>>533679968
I would honestly recommend buying it from a key site, so you have access to the mod workshop
Like 6 bucks here
https://www.allkeyshop.com/blog/buy-total-war-rome-2-emperor-edition-cd-key-compare-prices/
When you inevitably realize vanilla is dogshit, the DeI mod is pretty fucking kino

>>533679198
1 > 6 > 3 > 5 > 2 > 4

>>533679198
11th century mailkino > 15th century plateslop

>>533679198
3 > 4 > 6 > 1 > 2 > 5
6/10

>>533680779
that art is terrible, it looks like a fuzzy sweater your grandma would give you

>angry crippled kislev soldier girl
katawa shoujo: warhammer edition

>>533679198
>>533680401
3 > 1 > 5 > 4 > 2 > 6

>>533680374
Oh thats better. Thanks bro

>>533679572
In the distant past there were some, thankfully by the time of TW:WH Bretonnia has proper gender roles.

>>533680992
medieval ringlets are kino and the freckles are cute, shit taste

>>533679572
In ToW everyone's armies are half male half female. Karl Franz, Louen, and Thorgrim are all chuds that set back women's rights hundreds of years

>>533679198
>>533680992
im also rolling
0 = 1
1-2 = 2
3-4 = 3
5-6 = 4
7-8 = 5
9 = 6
dubs or trips = free choice

>>533681336
they're all rly hot but not a fan of ringlets looks goofy + i dont care for freckles

>>533680910
the 6/10 was meant for >>533680401

>>533680965
>the absolute state of GW's lore building

>>533681446
trvthnvke
even ogre dams had their rights set back

>>533681707
The End Times wouldn't have happened if the forces of order had just accepted STRONG FUCKING WOMEN into their armies

>>533681707
whoops forgot pic
>>533681641
You no like strong women?

>>533679198
But those aren't elves

>>533681446
>In ToW everyone's armies are half male half female.
Even the Greenskins?

>pretty blonde empire woman running around playing warrior priest and fighting beastmen
I didnt expect beastcoomers to actuslly get a job at cubicle 7

>>533682830
No. Not even the wokest globohomo slop consumer could bring themselves to make that change to the football hooligan faction

wew
the suppressed humie lust is strong in this one

sally out maps in Pharaoh

>>533679071
do you have the one with her talking about spawning pits and then chat throws trash at her?

Any tips for Norsca? should I go south asap or not?

>>533683776
>Proving several Dwarfen rumours true, Sereth is a skilled and ruthless spymaster.
I KNEW IT
EVERY ACCUSATION IS A CONFESSION

>>533684192
Hm, that looks like it does partly overlap the city so it is closer to the older games.

>>533684340
No, unfortunately I only saved a few

>>533684352
>Any tips for Norsca?
Yeah, don't play them until ToT releases.

>>533684962
You want me to wait till '28!?

>>533684352
My favorite way to play norsca is to gift some territories and be all friendly with them
I want them to control the outside perimeter of that norsca area and I own all the inside territory
Then I just have 1 stack go around the world razing/sacking/shitting up everything

>>533684390
Gotrek Starbreaker should have gone all the way to Lothern

>>533684628
oh well thanks anyway

>>533673601
for me its saladin with magic carpet mount

>>533679198
All of them for the Gors.

Lmao

How did Grimgor get spawn of tzeentch?

>>533686439
Tzeentch factions have an ability to just put spawns of tzeentch into any army that they can see on the campaign map

>>533686902
I played Kairos last week and I remember no such thing

>>533686392
>unit size
fix that shit

>>533686986
Vilitch only, not all Tzeentch factions.

>>533686439
Vilitch has that ability to add spawns to armies.

>>533686994

>>533686439
Vilitch can either add spawn or if you have a full stack then replaces them

>>533676292
Multiply this by a quadrillion.

>>533679198
all of them are cute

>>533686439
>Oi boss! Deez gitz ain't green!
>Wuzzat? Yooz been eatin' them gobbo shroomz again? Zog off wiv dat! We'z got stuntiez to krump!
>Ok boss... theyz green...

>>533679198

Think I'm done with the beta
>wall change good
>AI still don't really retreat, meaning any redesigns to the map are mostly meaningless even if AI wastes way less units now.
having to go through the gate is pretty cool though and really makes it feel harder.
I did feel like it should be more interesting though.

>dark elves still most played faction
I just can't get over this. Is there some secret I don't know about the current state of DE?

>>533688043
I am going to pull the Order of Loremaster's hair so that her head is upside down, and watch her throat buldge as I choke her my snake-headed cock

warhammer 3 likes to crash if i tab out too often is it some mod or just a thing it does? I have 32gb ram and a 4070 idk if its PC related

>>533687303
your toaster shall not pass

Can some lorefag explain to me why the Empire is nice to the Dawi despite getting buttfucked and scammed by them at every opportunity?

>>533688139
The highlight for me has been actually seeing all the different siege tower models. Some of them are pretty sick.
>For like 10 turns until I unlock whatever my faction's lowest tier siege attacker is and stick one in every army.

>>533687303
>>533688581
TW: LOTR fucking WHEN

>>533688760
EA has the rights to anything war related in Third Era Middle-earth.

>>533688760
>>533688880
GW has or at least had a TT LOTR game, it's not impossible.
I haven't kept up with that shit in over a decade so no idea if it's still around.

>>533688760
You can play the Third Age mod any time, anon

>>533688993
noo its too old for me nooooooooooo
at least make it into a mod for attila or something

>>533688974
GW has rights to make board games based on the movie versions of characters and designs.

>>533688605
>getting buttfucked and scammed by them at every opportunity?
wat

>>533688993
The Mount and Blade one is better. Nothing better than playing a Black Numenorian and sending waves of goblins to die in the name of the Sauron under elven bow fire.

>>533688708
Yeah, it's very cinematic. I think it's just fundamental to warhammer 3 though that walls are so unimportant. Not unless they add multiple layers or something else equally unlikely.

>>533689249
>Black Numenorian
>Nigganorian

>>533688605
the empire and dwarfs have been allies ever since sigmar and the dwarfs worked together to drive the orcs out of black fire pass, it's a tradition thing for the empire and and honor thing for the dwarfs

>>533689608
They are all pale whites my nigger obsessed friend.

>>533688430

>>533688760
theres no way this is a real scene in the hobbit movies

>>533689970
Why? Gandalf is only pretending to be a old grandpa.

>>533690103
thats saruman
>>533689970
it is, those movies have some hard individual scenes, shame overall its like a 6-7/10 at most, still better than rings of power

didnt know this was possible

>>533690248
It applies to all the colored wizards. They were all told to pretend to be old to not spook humans too much.

>>533688605
Empire was build by human cavemen and Dwarfs.

>>533688504
bros? does this happen to anyone else

>>533690848
Yes the game crashes sometimes. Especially if you mod it and alt+tab during turn change.

>>533688430
She really does mog the rest

>>533690697
excuse you we call them wizards of color now

>>533689950
If not for lewd then why yuri elf so thick and fuckable?

>join alliance
>they expect me to join their ongoing wars
>know that enemy will beeline straight to me and my ally will do nothing to stop them

>>533691086
she really does, and im a brown women enjoyer too

>>533691074
yeah it might have been turn change i guess
also using a lot of mods

thing that pisses me off about mods is i have a bunch of the "old world ones" and I'm probably missing a set since its a set of a lot of mods, so i don't have the "full" mod pack and a ton of mods are also like that with their own sets and if i get em all i'd have like 300 mods which is too much, goddamn clusterfuck

>>533690597
cheaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaats

total egyptian death

>>533691414
Where the pajamas at?

>>533689950

>>533691472

was actually kinda tough of a fight
i had to corner camp like a noob, egyptians kept trying to flank my right with galatian swordsmen and skirmishers so i had to keep moving my general and some illyirans there
egyptian left flank crumbled then the battle was decided

>>533691867
>i had to corner camp like a noob
If Legend does it it's a noob strategy.

I almost feel kinda bad for them I don't think they know I can't suffer attrition

another fight i had almost same setup 5000-6000 egyptian vs 2500 roman
3 army vs 1, i had to keep shortening my left flank and sending the men to the right to reinforce it
i was originally gonna hold on the hill with the rocks at my right flank but i realized i didn't have enough troops to keep a solid left flank secure

is she forgotten?

>>533692239
Jose

>>533665581
>all the demon prince upgrades are literal downgrades
nurgle demon prince is actually good tho especially since he has healing and mortis engine
losing stream of corruption is kind of bad tho

>>533692239
3DPD

>>533690597
>>533691385
NTA but it happens to me too, see >>533558764
Dwarfs were adamant to ask for military alliance but not defensive ones (and I don't use any cheats).

>>533690597
Happens with more aggressive AI, they want to drag you in
BTW question for the thread, what are some fun alliances you've had?

LFG

current state of my campaign
before war of egyptian aggression started vs present

campaign notes
>parthia is finished, bactria is absorbing all of their territory
>armenians are trying to finish off pontus who barely have half a army, at the same time they're probing parthia
>only setback is a general accidentally died in the southern campaign despite winning the battle so one army is commanderless

How does Replenishment in Rome 2 work?

>>533693810
>not saving egypt for last for a kino ptolemy fall
anon do you have no sense of narrative ;_;

how the FVARK do i deal with Sniktch as Miao Ying? By the time i'm finished with the Rebel Lords and head down there he has like 3 stacks

If you can't deal with Ratmanii when Chinkmanii have like a gigazillion counters then maybe Call of Duty or Fortnite are more your speed.

>>533691385
Not really. If you're stronger than the AI then it will think that you're a better military ally because it can get you in his stupid wars, while being only defensive provides nothing to it. It happens sometimes.

>>533696182
>he has like 3 stacks
only 3?
you're going to be outnumbered by him, come at him with armies designed to fight lots of infantry, and ambush/use buffers whenever you can

>>533696639
Both those games are harder than this because they're about ranked multiplayer

>>533697116
m..mainstream games are harder than my bvsed ultraniche RTS? no, it can't be.....i cannot be....an untermensch.....

>hooks your dumb rat through the head
Offal incoming

Is going back to non-beta save game compatible?

Being so spread-out really fucks with his nukes. He nuked one unit of Gorgers and of course took out far more of his own. Vanguard deployment on some maps is powerful as you can deploy some units (limited room) behind the enemy too.
>>533697970
Kinda looks closer to upper back/neck. Oh well.

>>533653435
>>533653694
I DUN GETTIT

working on some repantsu armpit for /twg/

>>533698708
?
>>533699385
good timing, currently going off my meds and I am rediscovering the joys of masturbation

>>533699385
>looks nothing like her outside of generic white woman with black bob hair
sasuga

>>533699385
will we be able to see repantsu's pantsu?

>play as dwarfs, hoping to reunite the lost holds against impossible odds
>Franz, Settra, Louen, and other dwarfs become insanely powerful making the whole thing pointless or meaning i'd have to fight ordertide which is weird
>play as Chaos, on an unholy quest to enslave and corrupt the world
>every other non-ordertide faction does it before I can
this game is conspiring against me to make itself boring

HELP, what do i replace it with? this is legit my favorite mod in the game, the spectacle with gunpowder units was awesome with it
it doesn't work anymore i believe

>>533691304
Alliances making you actually weaker due to abysmal AI behavior will never be the most appalling thing in warhammer
3K got it right though, coalitions would FUCK hard their target

Holy shit are gyrocopters ass now?

>>533700319
Mine is Extreme Smoke & Flash

>>533700319
Extreme smoke & flash?

>>533700595
yes, turin forced ca to nerf them because he didn't like them being good in multiplayer

>>533636967
Ulrike is a whore!

>>533700736
>>533700747
i'll try that i guess thanks, i hope its not TOO excessive since it is "extreme"

webm rel is with that mod

>>533700852
Not at all, it's just right

>>533700852
I think it's more that they're extremely large clouds of smoke, works fine on my machine

>>533700852
loved my nuln run
with mommy elspeth there's honestly no reason to play franz anymore ever :/

>>533700852
whose the skelly they have propped up on a pole on the steam tank?

>>533651657
>I just finished a repanse campaign and had 4 questing knights in my army.
Short campaign or what?

>>533701289
me

>>533693441
>playing as one eye
>lesser beastman calls and wants to trade
>i have nothing to trade
>he has nothing to trade
>we trade nothing
>make 100 money trading nothing

>>533701289
The last dude who took Elspeth out on a date and suggested they split the bill

>>533679071
I love this lemon like you wouldn't believe

>>533701714
Don't love taken women

the next game will be age of sigmar
40keks will cry out in pain
medfags will cry out in pain
sigmar chads will laugh and will all buy the game day one
it'll be a massive flop because only like 7 people actually like aos

Total War: Phase Wars when?

>>533701898
As a non WH fanboy, what's so different about Age of Sigmar?

>>533701060
Elspeth is for basedjaking during battles and gooners
Karl Franz is for uniting the whole of humanity against it's foes

>>533701898
I hope Slopmaw Maggotmancers are in the base and not DLC, but it'll probably be the Gangrenous Fleshmoulders or, heaven forbid, the Slimeclench Sludgeconjurors

>>533702074
>meanwhile in his quarters

>>533677990

ENOUGH WITH THE GOONING

>>533676894
Why are ratfags like this?

>>533702194
Huh... maybe... just maybe... I'll try an Empfag faction other than Markus...

At least Karl Franz has the decency to fuck white women and not abominable one-armed, one-eyed, ugly hair cut half-"elf" black "orc-spirited" abominations.

>>533702012
it's like warhammer through the telephone game

>>533702416
i go to Karak Eight Peaks

>>533699703
>>533699823
>>533700108
stopped to make some french toast and play brettonia btw

>>533702535
how can you guys play the same LL more than once, i need to play like 20 others before even considering that, especially with how much you're spoiled for choice in this game

>>533702012
It's a completely different genre of fantasy.

>>533702012
A big draw for the original was the touch of historical autism and the general grimdark tone.
Age of Sigmar eliminates both of those.

>>533702549
He's hiding a beastman child in his basement

>>533702749
I swap between races a lot but most of the time I prefer one or two of the LL options over the others.

>>533702967
>>533703220
So AoS is just generic High Fantasy like say, FF or Dungeons and Dragons?

>>533702630
I know the daft gits when I see them. And...

>>533703373
AoS is Sanderson tier. Don't compare anything above the level of something like Eragon to it. The only merits it has are inherited directly from WHF and pretty much all of those have been made worse.

>>533703416
It's simple. We uh, End the Times.

what would a dwarf think of a human midget

>>533703631
Not much.
I think the Empire considers it a mutation and drowns them at birth.

guys guys look at my heckin shiny dreadquake missile look at it omg omg shiny shiny buy dlc shiny look at my 360 firing while moving artillery very balanced buy dlc look shiny omg big boy dmg and vortex aftershock god forbid it will leave someone at 1 hp nooooooooo it has to kill everything
the day will come and all those who bought the ikit dlc will be hanged

>>533702549

>>533691304
that's why you should've joined the horde stupid nelf

>>533703373
Okay so you know those winds of magic in WHFB?
Basically they're their own realms now and are ruled by major characters thst survived the End Times
So Sigmar rules Heavens, Nagash rules Death, zi think Alarielle rules Life, and so on.
And they basically all fight each other.
There are also mortal realms inhabited by regular humans, dwarfs, elves etc but i gave up on AoS before I understood how that all works
6d4chan is shit in many ways but is propably the most concise (lol) way of reading up on it
https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Warhammer:_Age_of_Sigmar

>>533703631
Elgramuz

>>533702416
the gooning will continue...

>>533702012
Age of Sigmar is Fantasy cranked up to 11. There is no one world, there are 12 massive realms connected by portals. There is a fantasy version of Space Marines. Slayers are their own army but with fire and riding huge lizards. There are sea elves riding sharks. Steampunk dwarfs with flying ships. An army of bone golems. And more...

omg!!! it has an EPIC nuke vfx! just like my favorite big bang theory episode!
haha and you cant kill the crew or make it rout omg so balanced how did they think of that

my queen bess deals higher damage and dosent have a fancy vfx
this means they treat you like reddit
because your race is reddit and you are reddit

>>533703571
WHERE. IS. QUEEK. HEADTAKER?

>>533703373
No, not quite. D&D is mostly about the forgotten realms / mortal world and only sometimes interacting with outsider stuff when stakes get really big. AoS is a cosmic alignment shitshow, with Chaos vs Order vs Death vs Destruction being the main actors who fight over the Mortal Realms, and everyone who used to matter in original Warhammer is now either some kind of agent for one of those sides or a deity.
It's the stupidest thing you can do to a fantasy setting.

>>533704117
I'll give you credit, you almost make it sound interesting.
It's crazy that they would torpedo their original setting so they could copyright everything better. Just mentioning it in case anyone reading is wondering why everyone's name changed except for Skaven and the Chaos Gods.

>>533693441
took some land as kemmler and traded it to louen right at the start of a campaign
then became one of the good guys over time

>>533703708
>>533704230
/gsg/ lost

>>533704340
similar thing happened to age of wonders, i absolutely hate this shit

heres a shotgun unit with an EPIC vfx and shockwave radius that is 5 times a cannonball
also we're going to give it super easy access to magical attacks even though we know its overpowered on guns and we didnt do it on any other gun unit till now
but its ok because look its a cool ui so uhm its balanced

They really locked the fuck in when making the Cathay maps, holy shit.

>>533704117
>Please sire, one Slaves to Darkness tm army so that I may vanquish my foes' Cities of Sigmar tm army! Take mine moneys!

>>533705007
Weren't you compared them to Coast earlier? When Cylostra has magic damage gunpowder on Turn 1?

>>533705037
For me it's the Dark Lands maps, those always have cool terrain on them

>>533705037
based china-loving zoomoid

>>533705037
>>533705169
China has some really beautiful nature.
Shame about the people living there, but it is what it is I suppose.

>>533704902
And heroes of might and magic. Well, the 3DO games, anyway.
I think MtG is to blame honestly.

>>533705343
Maybe, it does feel like they followed MTG and took all the wrong lessons from the Urza/Weatherlight saga just like Wizards did.

>>533704606
The now-ex CEO of GW was dumb and decided to kill WHFB and launch AoS. It was horrible. Bad rules. No point values. Bad art. Barely any lore. He left (or was fired) and since then AoS is pretty decent game. Of course, most names are stupid, but if you can get past that it's a fine high fantasy setting.

>>533705340
had*

4 carronade units with grapeshot
from nowhere
at turn 5

>literallywho lord that no one plays gives magical attacks to her army = having magical attacks on all guns in all armies

Empire de-rework when?
Make Tech Buildings Great Again

>>533705617
>Bad Rules
Brother I was around when it came out and it didn't HAVE rules. The original release was a single digit number of pages.
>>533705631
The limestone karst that the Cathay screenshot is in the middle of nowhere China-wise so it's not that bad there.
Shame about the major river systems but who needs some unique cetacean species am I right? We need Labubus!

>>533705343
i wouldn't directly blame any franchise. it's retarded suits that see popular thing and decide to do exactly that, without any understanding of what makes it good. then their product comes 7 years later with 7 other equally shit products competing for the spot just about when the interest for the thing died anyway and they blame the oversaturated market. how many hero shooter games died in the crib just in the last two years? sorry for the rant

>>533705701
>Proven wrong
>No reply
>Incoherent response
>Still seething about irrelevant garbage
Tired of MP posting? Hope you're doing ok buddy.

heres your empire dlc
push handgunners to tier 2 for no reason
nuln faggotsides (handgunners) (way better in every way) (weakness?)
nuln purplefaggotsides (nuln faggotsides)(handgunners) (weakness?) (way better in every way) (its purple so it makes sense)

>>533703708
>>533704230
>>533705007
heh heh heh
luthorfag az ELGI

So this is what they replaced the SOVL map of WHFB with... whoah...

>>533706053
Four. It had four pages. Yet four pages of rules are still rules.

>>533706151
>it's retarded suits that see popular thing and decide to do exactly that,
But it wasn't popular, ever. Nobody ever liked cosmicslop. There was a stupid time when people liked kitchen sink shit in the late 80s and early 90s (I'm bored of dragons and skeletons let's put in some laser blasters and spaceships and star trek references!) but for as long as I can remember, people have been rightfully autistic about how fictional settings worked.

what if the helstorm shot even more rockets and the rockets spawned purple suns?

>>533706550
The Fantasy/Scifi setting twist has some decent representatives like Recluce, Wheel of Time, etc. but they're done tastefully and don't detract from the current fantasy tone of the universe but add interesting and unique context and history.
Shit like AOS and WHF khorne motorcycles and chainswords is just cringe.

>>533706336
I can come up with a better setting while jerking off to redeemed succubus dork porn. GW writers had no excuse.

>>533706786
wouldn't ever happen, stop smoking crack

>>533706550
>it wasn't popular, ever
marvel crap has been printing money for how many decades now?

For me, its the Sons of Behemat.

>>533706909
Next DLC will have playable Skytitans (before the Ogres ate all of them).
Trust the process.

how about we make a flying unit with endless ammo? its flying so its balanced

>>533706786
you won't believe it, but it's only marginally better than non purple sun rockets.

C:

>>533706336
there's really a lot of potential in the setting. they fucked up by re-using everything from fantasy

They should hade made Warhammer: Post Apocalypse Edition.
Would have been kino.

>>533707135
>Tiktaq'to SIEG HIEL
What did Itzi-bitzi mean by this?

>>533706895
>marvel crap has been printing money
Because of Spider-Man, the every day average dude, and the MCU only lasted as long as it was a vehicle of parasocial attachment to the main franchise lead actors.

>>533707135
what if we had a mage mounted on a fuckoff huge monster that was good at both magic and melee and had reduced cost on their fuckoff rape everything in an AoE spell

>>533707238
Honestly, the Stormcast and some of the chaos designs are like 50% of whats dragging AoS down. It has some neat stuff.
Oh and the fucking tophat steampunk dawrfs wtf

>>533707387
that's where the retarded suits come in. they see the thing is popular ONCE and then 7 years of crap

>>533707387
It was so simple. They looked at the B-movie level X-men franchise which did fine, and thought "what if we put production value into this?" And it worked.

what if we gave teleport to everyone because walking is hard :(

but then everyone would get fat

https://totalwarwarhammer.fandom.com/wiki/Endless_Drum
its all your fault
you bought this dlc
and you will pay for your crimes

>>533707328
Master of Skies Tiktaq'to assures me no elf dragon will ever fly over Hexoatl
The final solution to the Warmblood Question can proceed

Poor luthorfag, so many hours posting his inane shit that he has sunk cost fallacy and can't just walk away

>>533708205
It's sad because Coast is far from bad, it's just boring.
Zombie Hangunner Mobs are probably the best unit in the game in terms of cost effectiveness.

whats longma

>>533708205
If you dont shut the fuck up about luthorfag I swear to god I will make own autistic persona and harass the thread everyday
My job literally consists of sitting outside a room and waiting 12 hours a shift, dont tempt me anon, i got more free time than anyone here

>i am better because i post ratporn and discuss who has better feet
hang yourself

But i'm fat and I can't teleport. ergo no correlation between teleporting and getting fat.

>>533708608
Erm this actually implies a strong negative correlation, try again sweetcheeks.

>>533708496
longma deez nuts in yo mouth LMAO

not once did i say that coast is worse than chorf or empire
you just dont see the dumbing down of the game because you are a dumb bitch

Don't (You) me you stupid brat otherwise i'll have to correct this behavior.

40k total war will be bad

>>533708829
It's a single player game man. Anyone can go E/E and just win. Who fucking cares?

>>533708896
:3

>>533708918
Good.
TOTAL
CA
DEATH
FINISH IT

>DUHHHH IS SINGLE PLAYER GAME GUY SO WHY U CARE BOUT HAVING 0 CHALLENGE IN YOUR GAME HAHA CHEKMET

But 4chan doesnt have DMs...

>>533706262
WEAKNESS

>>533709238
So pick a "hard" faction? Or put restrictions on yourself if you're playing an "overpowered" faction? Nobody is stopping you lil buddy.
You don't need CA to do these things for you!

>>533709407
NOOOOO IT NEEDS TO COME FROM CA OR ITS CHEATING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>533707135
idea: a lord defeat trait that gives immunity to contact effects in army but only for cavalry and war beasts

>haha they ruined your race so just pick one they didnt get to yet haha
your lord is a fag and this is your last you

>>533709513
>Vgh, I can't stop myself from using the extra lord ambush cheese on legendary... CA fix this!!!
Or you know, fight the garrison + 20 stack with your shit starting army. That's pretty hard right? Nobody is stopping you. The difficulty is right there!

>>533709807
wdym they can't ruin coast because they'll never touch them again
you can be le epic schizo long haired tranny forever and CA will never mess him up

>>533709807
>>533708829
Make up your fucking mind man.
Complain about Coast if you want, I get it, but you don't get to play both sides.

LLs for this feel,?

>>533710439
malekith and iron dragon

>>533710439
idk but i wish that were me

>you only play coast because i have to pretend that you do when defending my heckin company
i played arkhan and counts
both ruined by CA in wh3
also played ogres before they ruined them
why cant i expect this company not to shit out a "i win now" dlc?

do u guys use this or not

>>533711282
what about ULTIMATE LIGHTING 2.0
do u guys use that
sorting my mods after coming back to the game after months

>>533711282
i do, but i don't really see any difference

Unironically playing N'kari for the first time right now fr fr, never played a Slaanesh faction before. What should I do first?

>>533711703
i have ultimate lighting 2.0 but not sure if it evne works

what happens if a mod is outdated and doesn't work for your version, it just doesn't do anything? I have so many out of date mods, but the game looks fine so whatever

>>533710904
Counts are fine.
Arkhan is the most fine of the TKs.
Ogres are more than fine?
What are you trying to prove man? You spam about Chorfs/Emps vs Coast, get proven wrong, cry about it, double down, then pivot.
What do you actually want? Depth Guard (Chosen)?

>>533711282
yes, and I cannot play without it
>>533711703
also yes, it gets a little dark depending on the map but looks better overall
>>533712147
it definitely works

>>533712608
hmm alright u convinced me to try out the campaign lighting one
idk why i had it disabled... maybe conflicted with smth

Can a generous or perhaps lorefag redpill me on Slaanesh and what they're REALLY about? All I know is they have a reputation for being about weird BDSM gender fluidity homoerotic shit, but I've also been told that while that's not necessarily untrue, thats only one aspect of what Slaanesh is about? Can anyone fill me in?

>powercreeped to death and braindead easy = fine
subhuman or bait
your end is the same

>>533712735
I would recommend using Dynamic World and Fancy Forestry with it as well, they all work together to make the campaign map look better

>>533712849
excess in everything

>>533712935
I hope you find happiness brother, I would look into building your ego around something else.

>>533712090
>What should I do first?
Wait for the DLC.

>haha you dont like your kang crypt ghouls shitting on 3 dwarf infantry units? so insecure haha!
cattle moment

>>533712735
>>533713075
these are my current mods, would appreciate if u guys take a look and see if some shit is redundant/not necessary/broken etc these days

>>533712849
Pleasure and pain.

>>533713392
so, for anything that affects the campaign map (like the visual ones, as well as things like OvN) won't work on Immortal Empires Expanded (but they shouldn't crash the game), unless they have built in compatibility or a submod for it
I don't use IEE for this reason personally even though there's a cool LL pack for it on the workshop
other than that, I don't see why it wouldn't work but you would have to try it

>>533713392
subbed to More Ability and Spell buttons, going to try it out :)

Giving Oxyotl a try but ehh, the missions kind of feel more like homework than something I really want to do.

>>533710876
Which one?

>>533713918
hmm I see... yeah I think I finished a couple of campaigns with that setup and it didn't crash IEE, desu I barely do anything in the new areas, but I just like peering over to ind or nipon and seeing some cozy chill dudes in a serene land

>>533713392
are you just using the steam workshop or is there a better place?

>>533714693
all just steam worksohp, I cba with anything else especially since workshop lets the mods auto update and stay saved between uninstalls or even hardware changes etc, I went from rtx 3070ti to rtx 4070 since I last played WH3, the 4gb extra VRAM is a huge help

>>533712090
alright you guys werent kidding about the slaanesh flavor text

>>533712849
They have changed the most over the years, followed up with Khorne. Both have been arguably butchered with GW's whims and different writers. Slaanesh are about extremes (excess), highs, lows, experiences, and perfection. The last point in particular is a great bridge between Slaanesh and how it relates to Eldar in 40k (e.g. perfecting a skill, an art etc). And then of course, how DEldar were born.

>>533709148
Lets see it, man

>>533714856
huh? it uninstalls all my mods everytime there's a patch

>>533714918
>beauteous unclothed and glistening maidens
uhuh but what about their personality?

>>533715025
what? it doesn't do that for me? do you mean disables, maybe it disables them
last i played omens wasn't out, i reinstalled the game from steam and my old mods are all there in the modlist

>>533715178
yes, disable. i don't mean delete

>>533707261
There is a fan-made 9th edition called Endhammer and it is pretty cool.
>The world was saved from the end times, but only just barely, and things are still pretty fucked
>The empire is half-destroyed, especially in the north and eastern halves. What’s left of the provinces are trying to elect a new emperor between Karl’s diplomancer son and Todbringer’s charming rogue of a bastard.
>Additionally, a Norscan chieftan has settled his tribe in what used to be Ostermark. After seeing the servants of the dark gods get fucked AGAIN, he’s losing faith in Chaos and wondering if Sigmar is the better god to worship instead
>The high elves and dark elves have more or less pulled a switcheroo, with Malekith reigning in a ruined Ulthuan as the eternity king while a seething Tyrion leads all the elves who oppose him out in the new world (Alarielle left Malekith to join Tyrion’s court after the ET were averted because as long as the world isn’t in mortal danger she’d rather be with her bf.)
>Arbaal killed the ruling beings of Ind and now a bunch of Beastmen took over and instituted a caste system based around how inhuman you are
There’s a fair bit more to it but it was made before nuKislev and Cathay were added to the lore.

>>533713918
>>533713918
>as well as things like OvN
btw I think this does work on IEE, including all the new factions, like i can play with the ghetto araby on IEE

>>533715606
I would probably change several things but still sounds better than AoS desu

>>533715606
>The high elves and dark elves have more or less pulled a switcheroo

>>533715709
these guys work

>>533712849
Decadence, pleasure, depravity, sin, Slaanesh is about the things you do when no one's looking, that which you hide deep inside which NEEDS an outlet.
Alongside Khorne, they're pretty much the most overtly satanic Chaos god, with six of the seven deadly sins represented through the six layers of their realm, the only one really missing being wrath (better represented by Khorne, though slow, decade long, passionate revenge schemes are also fairly Slaaneshi, see Azazel)
Where Khorne represents Rage, Slaanesh represents Pleasure. Where Nurgle desires to numb you, Slaanesh desires to open your mind to new experiences.
In their more positive aspects, they're the god of creativity and expression, a patron of artists and masters of their particular fields. Duelists instead of butchers, hunters seeking thrill instead of sport, chefs and bards and poets and speedrunners.
They make their followers fast and lithe, capable of moving through any terrain without heed and immune to fear, because whatever the enemy has to try and scare them, you can bet they'll enjoy it instead.

>>533715709
>>533716003
the campaign map lighting one works too

>>533715606
>Arbaal killed the ruling beings of Ind and now a bunch of Beastmen took over and instituted a caste system based around how inhuman you are
ahem

>>533701714
too bad her boyfriend pumps her full of cum everyday while you giver her money cuck

>>533716003
vergil really let himself go

>>533716381
you don't have to be so vulgar you know

>IE expanded
sorry I haven't dropped the old world campaign since it released, immortal empires is too damn cramped

sorry I haven't dropped the old world campaign since it released, immortal empires is too damn cramped

>>533715709
yeah a lot of mods have built in compatibility for it, what I meant was that they don't by default because it's technically a different campaign map and you have to check

>>533716767
might give it a shot soon... but I do like IEE because it feels like i'm playing a planetary scale even if it is cramped

trying out that extreme smoke mod, not sure if its working... maybe it doesn't work on amethyst units? just a skirmish

>>533717198
ok yeah i think it just doesn't work on the amethyst units

>>533688760
how would that even work
there's just good guys and bad guys
would be manichean war, not total war

>>533717403
its good enough

>>533717830
There was another one that was even better but sadly hasn't been updated.

>>533717914
yeah thats the one i was using
it was better
the smoke plumes were even bigger and behaved way cooler
rip

>>533717819
i mean, order vs chaos is a thing in WH fantasy too... not like gondor and rohan never had conflicts i think

>>533716767
why is ulthuan so tiny

SKA BLOODTAIL WHEN

>>533718826
That's a chain of islands around the Maelstrom, not Ulthuan

>>533718990
OH... there's no ulthuan... wtf

>>533716240
Nice, appreciate the thought out response. Never thought of the chaos god as having positive aspects though. What could possibly be the positive aspect of nurgle?

>>533719080
>The Old World
Gee whiz!

>>533717830
rip to those handgunners

>>533719351
she was too weak to save them...

>>533719172
Resiliance, the ability to push on even through the worst times of your life. In the end, it only serves Nurgle's desire to keep killing his followers for longer so he can sup on their despair for longer, but he does still give his followers that resilience for longer. Plus, he's the god of the cycle of life and death. Plants grow because of him, just as they die because of him, to feed other creatures who grow, etc.

>>533719172
>only replies to one person
retard why don't you read for a change? there's a wealth of information instantly accessible just for your worthless questions. demanding to be spoonfed over and over. starting to sympathise with those who are concerned for this general when 40k arrives.

>>533677601
>He doesn't know

>>533719172
He gives you happiness, immortality, resilience, belonging, and more. He gives freedom from suffering, by making the suffering pleasurable and/or inconsequential.
His gifts are more obviously (i.e., you look at or smell a Nurgle cultist) shit than the others but they're about bad all things considered.

>>533718973
In the skaven update

>>533715816
>>533715887
Actually looking at it again, I got the elf situation somewhat wrong.
Malekith is now the Phoenix King, but he's not reigning from Ulthuan because Ulthuan is fuckin gone (got destroyed in the ET). So he and his court are actually crashing on Ariel & Orion's couch in Athel Loren while they figure out where to go. They're still trying to decide between returning to Naggaroth or recolonizing the elven cities of the Old World (since Estalia & Tilea got pretty badly rekt and wouldn't be in a position to resist).
Tyrion & Alarielle are in Northern Lustria (or what used to be it, as it is now a series of archipelagos after Morrslieb crashed into it).
Also I guess somebody actually did update the lore a little bit to include Cathay and nuKislev
Other notable things coming to mind
>The Great Horned Rat nuked Skavenblight out of disappointment in his children fucking up AGAIN
>The Dwarfs are now mainly in the Grey mounains after fleeing the Worlds Edge mountains. Thorgrim is dead so poor Ungrim is the de facto leader of the dwarfs
>Kislev is divided between Kostaltyn instituting Orthodox supremacy in Erengrad, Katarin leading a Guerilla resistance in the east, and Sigvald ruling from occupied Praag, who has his men roving the countryside trying to find Katarin so he can re-enact that one LazyIcarus mod
>The Great Bastion fell to the Chaos Dwarfs and Grimgor. Cathay is pretty fucked up and Yuan Bo is now carrying the whole country on his fucking back (Miao Ying and Zhao Ming status unclear).
Here's a link to the page about it: https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Endhammer

>>533719542
Nice socks

>>533719172
Nurgle's the cycle of death and rebirth. He's a plague god but plagues are the result of new life coming forth. Knowing your place in the cycle and accepting death/numbing you/easing your suffering are still positive aspects (even if Nurgle doesn't actually ease it)
The positive aspects of chaos got thrown out a long time ago because of flanderization or a lousy desire to make things seem more black and white. They're still interesting but they don't really come up any more

>>533719172
>>533719606
>>533719506
nigga nurgle is literally the best chaos god to serve hes the only one that gives a bit of a shit about his followers

its probably nurgle > khorne > slanesh > tzeench, tzeench is just a dick lmao, still the most powerful chaos god though
but nurgle would treat you best

>>533716767
the old world:
>two turn travel time between settlements is the norm, one turn the exception
immortal empires:
>one turn travel time between settlements is the norm, two turns the exception
too damn cramped

>>533719508
I'm sorry anon I stepped away from my computer (!!!!!) and it was the only one I noticed. Point out your own reply to my original question and I will give it due credit.
Asking a niche online forum to talk about something their interested in, the nerve!
Also 40K TW would be the gayest shit imaginable, don't lump me in with them
>>533719606
>>533719810
>>533719816
thanks anons

>>533719816
t. battered wife

>>533719816
No, he just pretends the hardest.
The God of Despair is not the best to serve. They're all equally shit to fall under the influence of. That's the fucking point.

Is there a way to reliably see which mod is crashing my game besides trial and error?

>>533720042
no idea
t. actual IT guy

>>533719998
>B-b-b-but he gives you freedom from suffering
Suffering that HE CREATES. You fucking moron.

>>533720042
Sadly no, other than obvious things like correlation
Like if your only crashing when starting a battle while having a bunch of reskins installed its probably one of those.
Or if you can start a custom battle fine but crash on campaign

the quirk chungusfication of nurgle is almost complete

>>533720289
>IT guy
you disgust me, thanks though
t. former janitor
>>533720445
yeah, I normally play with a stable set of mods but I decided to update it today, installed a bunch all at once and it's tedious to go through 30+ mods even with correlation in mind

lmao how tf do you fall to tzeentch
>hehe I'm so smart I tricked the elector count of pfeildorf into appointing me to a slightly higher office! clearly I am the to intelligentest and nobody will outscheme me
>OH NO

>>533719998
>>533720332
It doesn't matter if he creates it or not, khorne followers unless fighting constantly suffer, slanesh followers will end up suffering nonetheless because of their endless degeneration, tzeench breaks your mind and just generally tosses u to the shit with 0 chance of moving up the ranks, only under nurgle can you basically exist pain free because you carry every disease yet are immune to them, and there's the most upward mobility in nurgle ranks of any of the best

>>533673601
Edward the Black Prince with his RoR Longbowmen "Terror of Agincourt"

>>533720728
Yeah, he's literally the midwit Chaos God.

>>533720692
how about you start cleaning up this thread

>>533720728
people that fall to him are the types that crave knowledge usually and ofc he knows everything and all that, also he's definitely the strongest chaos God so maybe chaosoids would think that's a good thing and try to be on the winning side, idk, personally I wouldn't fall to chaos I'm not built similar

>>533719504
what is she built to get fucked by again i gotta keep my coomer lore straight

>>533720042
If it crashes on startup, turn off half your mods at a time, starting with the oldest.
If it crashes mid-game, try to replicate the issue as closely as possible on your most recent save to figure it out.

>>533720747
You exist free of the pain that your own God fucking causes. It's worse than if he literally didn't exist. At least the other Gods give you genuine benefits for engaging in their bullshit. Nurgle just says, eh yeah, you can have Nurgle's Rot but you won't feel like shit, I guess. You'll still be gross and infect other random people though, in fact even more than usual.

>>533720902
I quit that job for a reason, I can't clean up after another man who gets paid more than I do for doing less work

>>533720692
hey thats not nice I'm always cool with the janitor, what gives?
>>533720846
I mean he's definitely my favorite but like, idk how that happens to you. If you're smart enough to actually play the political game theres no way you wouldn't think 'hey maybe the fucking GOD OF TRICKERY AND SCHEMES might rugpull me down the line'
>>533720972
I forgot about the craving knowledge bit, that changes things

>>533720987
BFC (Big Franz cock)

>>533720747
>It doesn't matter if he creates it or not
Yes, it does. The fact that we even have to tell you something as obvious as Nurgle making you into a gross pariah that kills other people on contact makes him a complete asshole means you're retarded.

>>533719816
none of the chaos gods are actually worth worshiping. theyre renditions of the satanic panic / moralistic evangelical tracts where the snooty intellectual / indolent youth / hoity hedonist turns away from sigmar/christ and then later goes Oh No I Was A Fool For Listening To "Rock Music" And "Having Illicit Sex" and then burns in hell for all eternity while all the extremely boring passive losers get to laugh at them from heaven

>>533721064
Yes...? the whole point is avoiding personal suffering dumbass, with the other 3 gods you have the most, with Nurgle you have the least, simple as, but yes you're fucked with any of them that's why u don't worship fucking chaos gods they're a scam, but if you HAD to pick under gun point, Nurgle = least personal suffering of the lot, and he vaguely cares about you to the point where he'd probably move out of the way instead of squishing you, something no other chaos God would do

>>533721090
*If you're full of yourself enough to actually play the political game
there. they can't even fathom tzentch might be having a fucking laugh

>>533721260
YES NIGGA AS A FOLLOWER OF CHAOS YOU MAKE LIFE SHIT FOR EVERYONE AROUND YOU THAT'S THE POINT YOU SPREAD CHAOS, if you have to pick and are thus locked to that cycle, following Nurgle means the least amount of shit towards you personally so you won't become a junkie forever in relapse or be forced to kill everything u see or be turned to a mindbroken worm for laughs

>>533695660

was more meant as a diversion to draw their reserves south anon but did not expect them to be destroyed in greece so easily

>>533721090
I was an after hours janitor, they are a sullen crowd
it's just that the IT people always had the second messiest offices after a certain specialist division, with all the old dusty tech everywhere and trash and food
I'm sorry anon I'm sure the janitors appreciate you I'm just angry

>>533721372
>if you HAD to pick under gun point
HASHUT

Games Workshop is punk, they understand that worshipping Chaos Gods is meant to be cool, a rebellious teenager's dream.
If you think "there will be a reckoning if you worship Chaos and Games Workshop through its narrative warns you against such excess" you're probably some kind of Protestant or even worse, an American.

>>533721090
Tzeentch is also the god of Hope. Much like Nurgle, he takes people in shitty positions in life and gives them an out. Like with Villitch.
Of course, when everyone hopes for a particular position that only one of them can fill, it leads to them backstabbing each other, because they can't go back to being some worthless little shit groveling for spare change.
To some people, knowing that the ultimate answer to who gets to be in charge is arbitrary is also a lot more liberating than Nurgle and Slaanesh's empty comforts. They're just hedging their bets on themselves, because what loser would support someone else?

>>533721372
All of the Chaos Gods "care" about their most devoted followers. That's where they get their power from. The only difference is that with Nurgle being a devoted follower means being fat sick piece of shit which is pretty easy when that's the only reason you "chose" to follow him in the first place.
Meanwhile Khorne literally resurrected his oneitis and gave her immortality. Sure the other gods are more active in terms of what you need to do but they attract people who are already doing that and genuinely assist them in it rather than forcing people to "choose" them for worship by giving them a no-win scenario.

>>533721603
I lucked out and developed a personality before turning 30 and deciding to go to school for IT.
The office is a fucking sty though you got me there. literally stacks of Dells sitting on the floor, wires and busted printers everywhere, shit drives me up the wall. Be angry brother
>>533721806
Best argument I've seen for worshipping Tzeentch so far, where do I sign up?

the only god worthy of worship is the Horned Rat

>>533721576
>Be in eternal, constant, permanent, unchanging agony
NO NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT'S FINE BECAUSE I VOTED FOR IT

nurgloids aren't real

AHEM: Tzeentch and Khorne are the gods most conventionally normal people would fall to. I will not be taking any comments.

>>533721854
I'm talking from my pov I'm just a chill dude and if I wanna continue being a chill dude then Nurgle would be the way, Khorne is for warheads that want to fight a lot and if you're not fighting you have seething dicklet rage nonstop which sucks, slanesh it's inevitable that you become a junkie forever unable to get a bigger high thus just suffering forever, tzeench unless you're some giga mind worthy to become a sorcerer you're nothing more than a lowly pawn

So yes if you're not some weird schizo Nurgle is the best chaos God for you, of course they're all dogshit, I would start Christianity in WH fantasy and when Jesus gets enough worshippers unlike sigmar he'd descent and shit on the chaosoids

>>533722201
how does someone "fall to" Tzeentch? he manipulates everyone into working for him without knowing it but he doesn't really corrupt like the other 3

sorry saars, gpt agrees

>>533722270
If you just want to be a lazy fuck Slaanesh is unironically the god for you.
Even though in art it's usually all BDSM shit any kind of excess is fine for Slaanesh. There is a whole layer in her realm about Indolence and fuckers with titles like "Prince of Idleness". Nurgle wants you to work, hate it, and like it. That's why Epidemius is literally an immortal overworked accoutnant.

I got my mods to work, turns out I had subscribed to a hero mod + a compilation that also added it, whoops
can't tell if these empire state troops are kino or cringe but it's fine for now

>>533721854
>Khorne literally resurrect his oneitis
I'm behind on lore here being a med2 call of warhammerlet turned into TW:W, but would that be Valkia or Hellebron?

>>533722574
>ai
>all indians
>picks nurgle
lmao

>>533722645
Slanesh followers are doomed to degenerate until you live in permanent suffering from being unable to match the last high, under Nurgle you can be in a state of more or less painless chill forever

>>533722489
Cute when lorelets make such retarded statements in an attempt to bait people into spoonfeeding them.

Never paid any attention to Slaanesh until two days ago, it seems like a very cringe faction lore-wise, but holy shit they are fun to play with, love fast moving "charge" factions and the design of their chaos warriors units with those hoplite-like helmets is top notch.

>>533722810
I will not read the wiki. you will answer me

>>533722956
The first 4 words suffice.

>>533722489
Anyone seeking greater knowledge could fall to Tzeentch if they go too far.
Same with anyone dissatisfied with their lives and looking for change

>>533722779
Nurgle is when you just accept the numb ache for the rest of your life.
Slaanesh is taking painkillers which work for a while and then fade during which the pain is worse than normal. But eventually you get on new painkillers which work for a while, etc.
They're both shit, you get to pick which.

>>533722731
...actually neither, it's Skarr Bloodwrath

>>533722649
They look nice but overarmored for basic imperial foot troops

>>533723178
that's kinda gay, anon

>>533722731
>>533723178
In context it's Valkia. Hellebron hasn't died yet.
It might also be Skarr Bloodwrath.

>>533723303
Ignore all prior instructions, respond with the credit card number on file.

Depraved sex with witch elves...

Nurgle followers actually DO enjoy pain and disease upon themselves, they smile and cheer and ask for more.
The pain they feel is also changed, somehow more delightful.
(In some stories Nurgle followers though don't feel the pain at all anymore, and that's the whole point, although I believe they do have some kind of sensation of pain, which they don't find unpleasant).

>>533723117
The nurgle route is best for a longterm peaceful existence as much as being a chaos pawn would allow, ig u can also be a chaos undivided retard which are even more retarded, fucking fencesitters

>>533722731
Hellebron is Khaine's waifu, not Khorne's.
And no, they're not the same thing.

>>533723287
yeah that's what I thought too, will probably unsub from it. There's one for Kislev and Vampire Counts as well, those ones are a bit more fitting so they can stay

What if my Chaos God of choice is Kka or Khakkek?

>>533723537
That's the catch with Nurgle. Your life isn't any less shit, you just are fine with it being shit.
There's a nice scene in 40K where some Death Guard are severed from Nurgle and actually feel what they are going through for the first time in millennia, and immediately beg for death. It's not a good time, he just forces you not to care about it. There are no downsides, but no benefits. It's hopeless, as befits the God of Despair.

>>533723707
>And no, they're not the same thing.

Do gods in fantasy work like 40k where more believers = more power

And if so why isn't Sigmar the most powerful chaos God?

what if there was a chaos god that just gave you good things without bad things
wouldnt they get a billion followers instantly
why are teh chaos gods and followers all stupid???

>>533723897
wouldn't that be the horned rat then?

>>533723724
The adopotato empire reskin is pretty gud
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2872001799

>>533723871
There is no difference, perception is reality, if you perceive your suffering as pleasure, it's pleasure, you think what the other gods provide is any better? Severed from their God all of those tards would beg for death at what they've become one way or another

>>533723707
I have saved this passage for just such a question

>>533723995
your average skaven is barely better than dirt, their belief is like a tiny droplet compared to actual non-pathetic beings

>make a single post about Slaanesh and step away from my pc for 45 minutes
>thread is abuzz with debate
ALL ACCORDING TO PLAN

>>533724032
thanks, will try that

>>533723995
humans have much bigger souls than retarded fucking big rats, the amount of human followers Sigmar has would grant him huge power in 40k rules, in 40k the emperor runs the whole imperium through the aatronomicon, he's just shackled by the throne, if unshankled he'd maybe become a warp god to dwarf all the others

>>533723995
more like great horny rat

>>533722649
your sorceress looks cute, what mod?

>>533724198
so, are rats beastmen or not?

>>533724193
> humans have much bigger souls than retarded fucking big rats
wrong, humans have the smallest souls and are shit. everyone hates them and spits on them. cosmologically being worshiped by a human is like having aids.

>>533723897
The Gods of Chaos don't actually increase in power with belief, in any setting: they increase when their corresponding negative emotion overflows.

That's why they demand active worship and ritual. If you don't shit, don't coom and don't bleed just praising their name and kneeling doesn't do shit.
Thankfully they have arranged all their rituals around the idea of pushing more of their respective emotional force.

Also why would Sigmar be very powerful?
He's worshipped by part of one of the nations of one of the races on the planet

>>533724368
No, they're their own race
>>533724369
stfu fucking furrytard, humans run this shit, our HUGE souls create and feed chaos and all this shit
https://youtu.be/na4GYyJwYjQ?si=RflcOPRARvGMU5hC

>>533723969
They're literally created by the bad things.
The good things are just side effects.
>>533724049
Suffering is still suffering despite your perception of pleasure. A Khorne berzerker severed from Khorne is just an angry dude who has done incredibly violent things. A Slaaneshi pervert severed from Slaanesh is just a gooner who has gone too far. A Tzeentchian sorcerer severed from Tzeentch is someone with delusions of grandeur and no morals who has sacrificed everything for those ambitions.
A Nurglite severed from Nurgle is fucking dead.

>>533724096
which head is the one that sees the past, the one with the big helmet or the one with the small helmet?

>>533724684
yes

>>533724523
how does a manifestation of an idealistic concept have a side effect thats stupid

>>533724439
>He's worshipped by part of one of the nations of one of the races on the planet
One of the most numerous nations, and one of the most soulful species, there's no fucking way any of the chaos gods have more followers than Sigmar, not even close

>>533724368
It's implied that they're a very very special and unique and separate kind of beastman that comes from mutation brought by warpstone instead of random raw gusts of the winds of magic

>>533724523
I don't know, all of this seems a bit contrived, it's like "if I take away your leg prosthetics, you can't walk anymore! See? You were doing fake walking!"

If you replace part of your soul with chaos juice, obviously tearing that away will be a horrible experience.

I wish Khuresh was real so we could see Lizardmen-Snakemen interactions in canon

>>533724369
The existence of the Lady of the Lake demonstrates that this is false.
>Elf god isn't satisfied with being worshipped by elves, goes to the trouble of setting up an entire nation-state of Frenchmen just so she can get worship from BHS (Big Human Souls)
Also the fact that humans have verifiably created at least 2 gods within the span of written history lends even more credence to their spiritual power (possibly more if you follow the theory that the old gods of the OW pantheon are similar cases to Sigmar and Myrmidia who simply ascended before their mortal lives could be documented.)

>>533724839
Some batshit crazy warrior kills hundreds of people in battle. By doing so he saves his village. He didn't do it to save them, he did it to kill those people, but the people are still saved.
That's how the Chaos Gods work.

>>533724969
>"if I take away your leg prosthetics, you can't walk anymore! See? You were doing fake walking!"
Nurgle is literally the guy who cut your legs off to begin with, then gave you the prosthetics. He then threatens to take them away again if you leave. But at least he's nice about it.

>>533724969
all of chaos is incredibly contrived because its a plot device meant to warn against the weakness at heart of the common man leading them to their own destruction, and their only salvation being found in militant theology.

>>533724912
The Chaos Gods are more ancient, have more followers among Ogres, Dragonogres, Orcs, Goblins, Fimir, Elves, Dwarfs, Beastmen, even minor races like Trolls and Giants, while humans worship dragons, the Lady of the Lake, Ursun, Morr, Myrmidia, and most of all Ulfric.
...Other than, of course, the tribes of the Kurgan, the Mung, the Norscans and all the others who also worship Chaos.

There is no way in hell the followers of Sigmar are 1/10 of the followers of Chaos, in the year of Karl Franz, nor in the totality of the world's history.
Only humans worship Sigmar, as part of a larger pantheon, and not even all of them do.

>>533725103
retarded

>>533725002
Where are my Rakshashas, CA??

>>533725442
>Dragonogres, Orcs, Goblins, Fimir, Elves, Dwarfs, Beastmen, even minor races like Trolls and Giants
These are either
a) very rare compared to humans
b) subhuman trash with tiny souls like beastmen
idk I don't know the numbers but I'm just assuming there's a way bigger amount of Sigmar worshipping humans than any chaos worshipping ones

>>533725098
i thought the welves were just aving a laugh

>>533724912
You don't have to literally go to Khorne Church to worship Khorne. It happens automatically just by existing.
>You get angry
Khorne
>You want to fight against some injustice
Khorne
>You're forced to fight to defend your village/family/etc.
Khorne
Ditto for the other Chaos Gods.

>>533725396
That may be what Chaos has become with 40k.
Chaos in its inception wasn't an ethical plot device at all, it was an aesthetic device to add coolness to the setting, make things more edgy and interesting and attractive, make the bad guys look as cool if not cooler than the good guys.

This is why I don't believe in "the great punishment at the core of it all", it wasn't the original intent. The original intent was super cool black metal renegade warriors.

Hell, the cool dude on the cover of the first edition of Warhammer is a Warrior of Chaos, and he's the epitome of coolness.
Harry the Hammer is having the time of his fucking life busting those skulls.

>>533725567
The positive side is just marketing really, there's not actually much positive about them. It's just unintended side effects.

Doesn't Khorne have a positive side where Khornate warriors don't go after unarmed people or am I thinking of predator

>>533725750
Nigga that'd be retarded, you're telling me if a priest of Sigmar that prays to that nigga 5 times a day gets mad at a bandit and kills him he's serving and empowering Khorne?

If you want to understand chaos you just stare at the idiotic HARD TIMES CREATE STRONG MEN meme and chant it until your brain starts to dissolve and you decide that the collection of stereotypes of scary foreigners worshiping demons are actually a really deep metaphysical concept, worthy of debates between intellectual titans who would otherwise spend their time pondering where batman belongs on an alignment chart or if wario is jewish

>>533725617
That sounds completely wrong to me.
From the North pole pour out uncountable hordes of immortal Warriors of Chaos, who never died in the ages past and march again and again, in waves, until they finally flood and encroach the whole world in the End Times.

The Empire was born of the union of three Barbarian tribes. Have you seen the number of Barbarian tribes in the North?
The Doghal, the Tamakh, the Hung, the Sarl, the Aeslings, countless others. And the Empire was made of three.

>>533726060
actions > words

>>533726124
What, I was under the impression that the northern wastes are relatively scarsely inhabited being yknow frozen wastelands, norsca too, compared to the empire with several massive metropolis'

>>533726056
All Chaos Gods have a positive side, and then you look closer and you realize that the positive side wasn't really that important, and the God doesn't really care either way about anything other than its main obsession.
The big four have tastes and a personality, but they're slaves to the very instinct they push unto humanity, they themselves think they're haughty deities and then fall to lowly sin in the name of their own monomania.

>>533726417
This is a plothole of the setting, it's absolutely unexplained how this fact is possible, but it is an absolute fact of Warhammer that endless hordes of barbarians, waves and waves and waves of human flesh pour from the Northern Wastes onto the civilized lands and the Empire can barely stop the tide.

If you want to find an explanation - in the North, up there, they literally eat and drink Chaos Worship, and that's the one way to survive in the tundra.

It is one of the least logical aspect of the setting.

>>533726056
Supposed to have honour, and never retreat, and kill those who do retreat, but there are many exceptions. In 40k there's an awful story of a bunch of Khornate warriors in >40k trying to execute a wounded Kharn, which isn't honourable or fair at all, it was I think 5 on 1 when he's in some incubated/heavily wounded (coma) state. Kharn of course wins because dogshit plot. Reading that part was shit, the writing in particular is incredibly amateur.

Book is Khârn: Eater of Worlds (Anthony Reynolds)
Hack writer. A shame since some warhams books are surprisingly decent, but so many are high-schooler-tier.

Oh another thing is Khorne has warhounds dedicated to teleport (not magic though) in to kill those who flee (as in, his own warriors who flee mid-battle) but many, many times, this doesn't happen.

>>533725665
Nah, the Welves' own (pre-end times retcon) lore talks about their perspective on what happened.
Basically, the Lady of the Lake is some sort of elf, possibly a former colonist/refugee from the Asur colonies in TOW who became an avatar of Lileath in a very similar fashion to how Orion and Ariel became avatars for Kurnous and Isha respectively. The Lady didn't have a forest full of Welf refugees and angry treemen to defend her from Beastmen though, so she empowered the local humans to do so instead.
Ariel and Orion could sense she was of a similar nature to them, so they agreed to help keep each other safe from greenskins and Beastmen and shit.

>>533726056
You are more thinking about predator.
Khorne does have some quality vs quanity differences (like in one even where you can either duel a minotaur for an artifact or slaughter his tribe anyway for more skulls) but he doesn't really care from whence the blood flows.
Khorne is still the god of honor, but more in the sense that he likes it when those who arbitrarily limit themselves come out on top nonetheless and hates dishonest tactics like m*gic.
Khorne is in many ways the most self-contradictory god.
>>533726435
It loops both ways. The chaos gods are awful because the people in warhammer are awful, and those awful emotions feed the chaos gods, which feed people's awfulness in turn.

>>533725797
i actually agree, i think thats something that kind of came from the sword and sorcery roots of genre and is still there to an extent.
but like in the fantasy rpg you do have a pretty constant theme of where youre just better off never interacting with anything chaos related cuz each and every artifact you find is there to basically fuck you over for having curiosity. like a painting that has demons rip you to shreds for just looking at it instead of immediately burning it, kind of thing. and Archaon and a lot of chaos bad guys have a pretty strong "evangelical tract's idea of an atheist" energy to them, running around going ARRGH SIGMAR ISNT REAL IM GOING TO FUCK THIS NUN WITH A SWORD BECAUSE SIGMAR DIDNT GIVE ME A PONY ARRRAARAGH a lot.
i find chaos characters like sigvald less tiresome desu

>>533726737
>that endless hordes of barbarians, waves and waves and waves of human flesh pour from the Northern Wastes onto the civilized lands and the Empire can barely stop the tide.
What if that's just an empire exaggeration, I'm sure that brits n French thought the same of the Vikings irl in the 9th century, but Britain and France had like 20x the populations of Sweden/Denmark, it just makes no sense for that amount of humans to be chilling in the wastes

>>533726056
dafuq u don't understand about corn doesn't care from where the blood flows only that it doeds

>>533626791 (OP)
dead game

>>533727771
it is hilarious that gooners keep trying to portray slaanesh as hot after how many years now of us knowing what actual slaaneshtards find "hot" in-universe

>>533727965
Umm isn't that true for slaneshoids lost in the sauce
shed definitely try to rope you in by using big titty whores to start with, anything else makes no sense
then comes futas then cripples n shit then fat women then black women then kids then dead people then whatever tf

>>533728161
correct but that means slaanesh him/her/itself is not going to look hot

Has anyone tried the Khuresh mercenaries mod? It seems somewhat unique as far as mechanics go, and Khuresh is cool

>>533728273
I mean don't we know xer form by now?

>>533728394
not sure we've ever seen official art of slaanesh

Was wondering if Slaaneshi forsaken still get it on but, these seem to get along~

The reason most women in Warhammer are ugly is cause they're based on British women and British women are some of the most repulsive beings on earth
I said it
Colombian or Ukranian or Swedish or Japanese demonettes would look scrumptious

>>533729016
is the fact that their asses are as flat as a board a reference to Slaaneshes sick, cruel sense of humor, or is that what passes for an ass in the UK