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>>533544078>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracyโข. Players wage war on a number of contested planets, each with a different environment, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful operations, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must cooperate to try to liberate the entire galaxy by focusing and combining their efforts as much as possible.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt
>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/
>LOBBY HOSTINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
>MODDINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png
>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1xA_wuSuV6NORqUCt1aZ203raG4HuUJ85btqmn0ld56U/htmlview
>MAJOR NEWSJul 02 Warbond Token https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516339785321679794
Jul 03 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTs9VDm4KAU
Jul 17 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8FKZG2lPBw
>LATEST PATCHESJul 15 1.003.200 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/601909716088521243
Jul 16 1.003.201 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516341688493408284
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Scorcher.
Loyalist.
Epoch.
Arc grenades.
Tesla tower.
K9.
Warp pack.
EMS mortar.
We have plasma. We have splash damage. We have teamkilling. We have blue. We have NO demo force.
>>533654464If they can't differentiate then how did they give me my 1000 super citizen bucks when I asked even if I have an extremely generic name?
I think you're just spreading misinformation and hearsay, not to mention SteamIDs exist and you can be manually banned from a game through Steam alone.
This doesn't mean they care enough to get anyone to handle bans for cheating in a PvE game or even any other kind of report because it takes effort and money, so it's better and cheaper to bury head in the sand.
>b-but they said they need PSN for everythingYeah, no shit, people disliked it so they said that so SJWs and assorted people who give a shit about reports would be on board with mandatory PSN accounts.
Reminder that every derivative work of Starship Troopers that doesn't have any respect for the original novel will always be a paper thin creatively bankrupt piece of slop that will never be able to maintain itself in the long run. Same goes for derivatives of HP Lovecraft. The very people who convince themselves Heinlein was fascist and Lovecraft was racist are incapable of being even half as creative as either of those men and their work will never amount to anything but a gussied up rip-off.
>>533655450Because you have to make a zendesk request to get the 1000SC, which requires you to link your account ID you fucking moron.
>>533655662Imagine thinking a man who married a Jewish woman in 1924 was remarkably racist because of what he named his cat.
>>533655748So they can use account IDs to do shit on your account. Why exactly would they have no access to them? Steam IDs are public and piss easy to utilize through APIs and if they have internal IDs they could use those too.
I mean, how do you think you keep your progress on your account? It's certainly not through names, since two people with same names can play Helldivers and not share an account. Local saves? Yeah, people wouldn't need to cheat then, just save edit themselves millions of SC.
There needs to exist an account ID of some sort, be it SteamID or internal game ID (and the two have to be linked, so every login from your SteamID points you to the right account) for basic fucking functions of the game. It's fucking hearsay and gross misunderstanding to assume that they cannot ban anyone because without PSN they cannot know the difference between two players with the same name.
So. I can customize primaries but I still can't save and retrieve loadouts.
>>533656427Here's your fucking source, now shut your fucking mouth already. This is Arrowhead we're talking about, these clowns are so incompetent, they need an entire fucking month to change ONE SINGLE VALUE on a gun to make it usuable. The PSN shit was literally the one way they had to ban accounts, if they had another way, you'd have seen at least a single message of someone getting the banhammer but it NEVER happened, nobody EVER got banned in this game.
d10 bugs
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>>533655464>respect for the original noveland by this I'm going to guess you mean 'an unironic endorsement of warmongering fascism riddled with straw-man arguments". Post your bookshelf, let's see how many titles are in german
/hdgpt/, generate a squid subfaction for us- i mean me- so we can boost engagement for a future m.o.
>>533656987It appears turning off the VPN breaks the link then. Try again.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243928290703/76561198027910192
>stuck at work for 24 hours when I just wanna squish bugs with the boys
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>>533656819Your own image refutes that they can't ban people. You are a monkey brain nigger, a stupid fucking retard, a shit-for-brains and keep repeating the same stupid hearsay that is blatantly wrong if anyone decides to think about it for more than 5 seconds.
You do not need to reply to save face, you are Anonymous. You can walk away with the knowledge that the only person aware of how immensely wrong you were is (You).
>>533657624what is the smiley face meant to convey?
>>533657718Knowledge of having the higher moral ground and divine right to punish all racists, misogynists, incels and basically everyone that gives you the ick.
>>533657624Oh yes, because a game dev of a successful multiplayer game is going to come out and say "Oh yeah by the way, we don't have any anticheat and no way to ban anyone, so pretty please don't cheat :("
I know someone who just spawned SC with resupplies and got 50k super credits on his account and still plays to this day, there is ZERO bans. Nobody EVER got banned in this game, please provide a single screenshot of a dude that got banned in this game.
>>533654234The game being a satire about fascism isn't what fucked them over. Their obsession with it only being a silly gag and nothing else is what fucked them over.
The fact that the Federation of Super Earth is objectively exploitative, manipulative, and evil, and yet the fact that they're so adept at manipulating information ironically causes people like the Helldivers and other average citizens to simply believe they're doing the right thing, is genuinely an interesting premise for a universe.
Yet despite having a genuinely excellent foundation for something special, Arrowhead seems to barely give a shit about their so called passion project for no goddamn reason.
It seems reasonable to me that they would have the capability to ban people, but they just don't really seem to care to actually do anything. Even after the chinks instant completed that sample MO with cheating there still hasn't been a single confirmed instance of anyone getting banned.
Remember to bless your beams Helldivers.
>>533655464I remember a youtuber trying to say lovecraft was racist while actually having read the stories and having to admit that the writings DIDN'T have racist themes because everyone was equally shitty and equally fallible. Then going full retard and saying that "Lovecraft wasn't very good at being racist despite being racist"
>>533657915I don't have to, because my argument is not that they ban people, is that they can ban people. Being able to and doing something are two different things. Also, there are at least three separate posts on >R*ddit with people posting screenshots of being banned. Are they real? I don't know and don't care.
need a new lobby because apparently 4 people were just sitting here mashing f5
>>533658451>>533657624Hey, here's another screenshot of the faggot mod from the discord that used to ban anyone disagreeing with the balance changes, remember this idiot? Even he says they can't ban anyone.
>>533658710>"Lovecraft wasn't very good at being racist despite being racist"Fuckin kek
>>533658607long overdue for a pissdiver lobby now that we have the laser turret, I wanna see a strider turned into a glowing yellow disco ball
>>533658338They already abandoned Helldivers 2. They sent all their good devs and all the money to their "new project".
>>533658740Oh surprise surprise, those posts are specifically stating they got banned because they linked their PSN ACCOUNT. Which you DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYMORE.
>>533659026Trust me, I'm aware.
>devs are coming back and will fix the game!
Yeah, and they will take another week to drop an update that breaks even more shit kek
Expect another 2 weeks of brokendivers at the very least
they can manually ban people if they get manually reported. They can't automatically ban people or accept ban reports through in-game menus unless they have PSN accounts.
>>533658338>objectively exploitative, That's Automatons.
>manipulative,That's Illuminate.
>and evil,That's Terminids.
Super Earth did nothing wrong and you literally have no proof they ever did.
>>533658338They really need to/should have hired writers with the money from the games explosion to expand on lore in and out of game.
New ads on tv, less vague orders, expanding what certain parts of the government do, etc.
This could even help guiding the war if automatons or illuminate want to destroy parts of Super Earth that are NOT directly helping the war effort, e.i. not science labs and special production planets.
>>533657020Killing those who want to kill you is self defense.
>>533659073No, they don't. One of these is literally a guy buying game on Steam, getting banned without linking his PSN so he refunds the game and goes to play on his PayStation.
>>533658338>they're so adept at manipulating information ironically causes people like the Helldivers and other average citizens to simply believe they're doing the right thingThey are surrounded by advanced alien squids that use mind control and experiments to turn them into voteless and fleshmobs, terminator bots that put civilians in blenders or execute them with chainsaws and giant man eating bugs
No matter how evil the SE government is they are objectively doing the right thing protecting their citizens
>>533659275>and evil,>That's Terminids.Ok
>>533659234Okay and how do you find out which "John Helldiver" profile on steam (5784 results btw) am I then?
>>533659440Mind sharing the link? I wouldn't be surprised if it's due to that whole thing where sony banned like 150 countries from playing the game due to their dumb ToS.
So, bugniggers, you have been unable to defend any of your planets. Care to explain? A skill issue, perhaps?
>>533659686Your account ID. Which they need. They need it to track your SC balance.
>>533658834genuinely what does the retard even mean by that?
steam IDs are already a thing and cannot be changed and they actively use steamworks for matchmaking, grouping, friends list etc
it's all there but they're too retarded to use it
>>533659686Same way a stalker does. It's manual.
>>533659397by definition it isn't
>>533659943>>533660001And how do you obtain someone else's account ID if you want to manually report them to their zendesk exactly?
>>533659556>They are surrounded by advanced alien squids that use mind control and experiments to turn them into voteless and fleshmobs, terminator bots that put civilians in blenders or execute them with chainsaws and giant man eating bugsAnd why exactly are they surrounded by these threats?
>>533659985Probably for the same reason why the game can't display your steam friend list if your profile is on private or friends only, garbage swedish coding.
>>533660346they look for the session you reported, you dummy.
>>533659556This is what gets me when people argue the big human governments in 40k/Starship Troopers/Star Wars/Whatever are evil because vast majority of the time they're institutionally "evil" simply because they're forced to since they're either in perpetual war or preparing for one with beings that are actually evil and cannot be reasoned with.
>>533660602Alright, please provide a screenshot of a dude that got banned without his PSN account linked then. Should be easy if it exists.
>>533658983I fucking WISH I could get a laser lobby. I always get excited when another fellow has a sickle & we team up. Seeing four divers beaming would be kino
>>5336572613/4, we lost a man
>>533660346Because they keep posting their Steam ID when linking lobbies in the general.
>>533660420This is like saying if we all gang up on germany for the things they did 100 years ago and we would be justified.
>>533660620>institutionally "evil" simply because they're forced to>they're either in perpetual war or preparing for one you guys are so closed to understanding satire it's actually hilarious
>>533660620They do that because they insert and view themselves as the deplorable demonic hordes for some reason.
Or literal bugs in the case of Starship Troopers.
>>533660758Okay that one was funny.
>>533657020>'an unironic endorsement of warmongering fascism riddled with straw-man arguments"Grow the fuck up.
>>533658710>and having to admit that the writings DIDN'T have racist themesLiterally the only thing that can be construed as a racist theme is the implicit fear of miscegenation with ancient fish mutants, and even that is tenuous at best.
>>533660513So you have no idea.
Terminids were massive bugs that Super Earth decided to breed into massive death machines just so they produced a tiny bit more oil, and then sent them all across the galaxy to farms with as much tender love and care as a Chinese steel foundry.
Automatons were literally worked to death in arctic hellscape coal mines, and instead of treating their own citizens with the slightest shred of decency, Super Earth doubled down, crushed their revolt, and forced them into indentured slavery.
The Illuminate didn't want war, didn't use the WMDs that Super Earth lied about in order to steal their tech, and had their entire home planet scorched simply so Super Earth could swipe free shit after killing an entire sentient species.
Terminids wouldn't be a problem if Super Earth just killed them. Automatons wouldn't be a problem if Super Earth spent a tiny amount on space heaters and proper tools, and the Illuminate wouldn't be a problem if they didn't default to literal genocide. Super Earth doesn't love its citizens, they see them as expendible tools that the regularly dispose of without any care in the world. You are literally defending Super China.
>>533660790To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Helldiver's satire. The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of politics and history most of the jokes will go over a typical player's head. There's also Arrowhead's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into the storytelling - Arrowhead's philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The smart fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realize that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Helldivers truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Arrowhead's catchphrase "A game for everyone is a game for no one," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Joel's genius unfolds itself on their screens. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a Helldivers tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.
>>533660420>>533661721>nooooo you can't just defend your people!>aliens are justified in killing billions of human civilians and experiment on them in ways that would make Mengele blush because... they just are, okay? super earth bullied them 100 years ago!Retard
>>533661832You're replying to an unironic crypt-communist right now, just so you know.
I choose to not understand the satire.
>>533661832>nooooo you can't just defend your people!Does China give a shit about the people that die in countless industrial accidents? Or do they view them as worthless and expendable as long as they die for a profit?
>>533660420>And why exactly are they surrounded by these threats?Cool argument. When's the last humanitarian atrocity your country committed? By your logic you're responsible for it.
>>533662015What does that have to do with anything?
>the underaged communist is having another fit
how does this general keep attracting these schizophrenics?
>>533661994I choose to understand the satire and turn it against the people who think they aren't beholden to the very same social forces and conditions depicted therein.
>>533655140These are my outfits I swap between, depending on the mission/faction/loadout. I'm just waiting for the medium siege-ready, though.
As long as Steiner's forces defend Turing, everything will be alright.
>>533660420Your argument only makes sense if the opposing factions were not genociding innocent civilians. Two wrongs do not make a right. If they were instead focusing on toppling the super earth regime and not total human death, they would be more sympathetic.
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>>533662336>I'm just waiting for the medium siege-ready, though.You and me both
>>533662336>using a helmet with its armor set instead of mix-and-matchingYikes
>>533662436Mein Super Fuhrer...
>>533662121I specifically said that the Helldivers and regular citizens of Super Earth are innocent of their governments wrongdoings due to being successfully kept in the dark so well that they are both clueless of the true events occurring, as well as unable to do anything to stop it.
In their eyes, they are simply selflessly defending their families and friends, and are objectively heroes because of it.
>>533661649not an argument
>>533662582Enforcer set is just too goated to change.
>>533660420>And why exactly are they surrounded by these threatsthey're sore losers that came back after one hundred years to get their revenge
they don't get to pretend to be the good guys after you willingly come back to genocide and massacre civilians and we are 100% justified in defending ourselves
>>533662582The problem is most helmets that would match an armor are just a shade off or have a finish and material that doesn't match.
>>533662608What are those "true events" occurring that helldivers and super earth citizens are kept in the dark from?
>>533662436Honestly I've become of the opinion that bug orders are consistently supposed to be successful.
>>533658834You already have to use SteamIDs for lobby links, and AH also gives you a player ID that they themselves use for their zendesk requests, and since they need a way to track Galactic War contributions I doubt they can't track who you played with
>>533660790>Starship TroopersBug Hivemind attacks Federation after an urelated human group infringes on their territory because they cannot comperhend a species having individualism.
>Star WarsOne guy masterminds the downfall of a deeply corrupt and inept republic so he can heavily militarize the society at large in perparation for extra-galactic threat of spiky evil people who love killing and rape. Not canon anymore because of media literacy.
>40kIt has literal EVIL Gods from literal HELL want everyone to SUFFER and/or DIE, alien beings older than the Sun itself that feed off suffering at best or actively hate all life at worst, outer space biological paperclip machines, insane war constructs whose entire culture is built around war and the one time they were left alone they created an interstellar empire that tried to wipe out everyone else and kept humans as livestock for meat, also your citizens are likely to be infiltrated by Body Snatchers or people who decide helping any of the former will prolong their life. All that and media literate faggots will still say "nooo don't do a slavery on criminals thats evil".
>>533658338>The game being a satire about fascism isn't what fucked them over. Their obsession with it only being a silly gag and nothing else is what fucked them over.I disagree, because they are one and the same. The definition of fascism is remarkably narrow, and Super Earth doesn't tick most of the boxes. Autocratic? Nope. Progressive Nationalistic Reformism? Nope. In fact, the only real aspect Super Earth shares with fascism is corporatism. The best joke is realizing the developers are guilty of doing something they're satirizing: Calling things fascist that don't even qualify.
>>533662627Neither is yours. An argument consists of premises and a conclusion. Your assertions lack any aspect of an argument, so you won't get one in return.
>>533662451>Your argument only makes sense if the opposing factions were not genociding innocent civilians.Both sides can be in the wrong.
The Automatons want Super Earth demolished for their willingness to exploit and violate the rights and freedoms of their own people, BUT falsely point the blame at the common man for not siding with them in their gruesome quest to "dismantle inequality", leading them on an objectively genocidal quest against swaths of innocent people who haven't truly done anything wrong.
The Automatons were justified for war against Super Earth, but they are not in any way justified in the actions against the people therein, with the Illuminate being in a similar boat.
When are we getting melee options that have more range than a gust of wind?
>>533663117Why are internet people so gross
>>533662979So in that case, why there's no sight of anyone getting banned for anything that isn't tied to PSN accounts? Hell I bet the chinks that made up millions of samples to instantly complete a major order back then didn't even get anything.
To be fair you need to be pretty media literate to understand the need for Justice soon.
>>533663195Over-consumption of porn.
>>533663234Something something absence of evidence evidence of absence.
>>533663195What? What'd I do?
>play lv 5 solo diver for some easy fun while i wait for others to get on.
>Vs Gloom Bugs
>the entire mission is me just getting bogged down with wave after wave of bodies
>one wave attracts the next
>each wave has a bug breach that extends the fight
>get pushed off objectives by just the sheer waves of bodies
>call down turrets
>get destroyed immediately by a charger the stratagem attracted
>run out of time
>make it to objective, fighting through waves of bodies
>extraction pelican driver is smoking meth again and sinks the pelican through the floor
>barely manage to escape with over 600 kills
What the fuck is going on? Does this have to do with resistance level?
>>533663403My evidence is the dumb retarded mod hired by AH that straight up told they can't ban people outside of linked PSN accounts.
>>533661721>Super Earth doesn't love its citizens, they see them as expendible tools that the regularly dispose of without any care in the world.See this is where the problem is right here. You're operating on a presumption of intentional malice. There is no secret society of cackling evil maniacs. From the top of this culture to the bottom, almost all of them believe in the same absurd shit. The ones that don't get the bullet.
Someone thinks Helldivers are being used as expendable cannon fodder? They're disrespecting the institutionalized heroism that is Helldivers. Someone thinks colonists are being overworked? They're insulting the fastidious work ethic of those brave trailblazers. The whole population believes this psycho shit, not just the lower class.
>>533663704I'm convinced that they have a shorter timer for calling reinforcements because i've had the same experience playing alone while waiting for players and letting just one scav live for a microsecond longer than it has to will immediately restart the meat grinder
>>533663497Just a gross image, obviously drawn by someone who gets off at the idea of a corpse of an attractive person.
>>533663234You can get banned if someone reports you but since there's no option in-game for that no one bothers
>>533663995Have you ever met General Brasch? In person I mean, not in an advertisement on your Super Destroyer's 4k telescreen. What about the commander of SEAF? Or the president?
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>>533664395>Or the president?Here's the weak link in that thought. The President was killed during the invasion of Super Earth and replaced immediately without a hiccup. Nothing changed. Hell, Brasch might not even be real.
I sure do love being a human female on Super Earth! I hope nothing happe-
>>533657261we're doing a second OP
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>>533663995>You're operating on a presumption of intentional maliceI wouldn't say malice as much as it is apathy. Malice would be working their people to death because they hate them because they're evil. Apathy is being able to watch them suffer and freeze to death because you care more about your bottom line than you do about the lives of those you're supposed to protect. Megacorp ZOG kind of shit, a whole galactic empire controlled by people who couldn't care less about what happens to the common man.
Someone had to lay the foundation that led to the way things are now.
>>533664521never mind
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>>533664395>>533664539I like to imagine Brasch was completely real and fought in the Galactic War. However he probably had the life expectancy in the field as the average Helldiver so every line from the training course and his show is just stuff they had him record on a tape recorder before his last deployment.
>>533664635I need to fucking coom
>>533664797>Someone had to lay the foundation that led to the way things are now.That's for sure, but they're also very dead by now. The Federation was founded some 170~ years before Helldivers 2. Over that time the control system was so firmly implemented that it's self-sustaining.
>>533665182Requesting this but with Coretta Kelly.
Even D10 on the evacuate assets mission has 30-60 seconds of nothing happening between launches, and the waves seem to be smaller than breaches during regular missions. This is so boring. I remember when this mission went hard on D9, before D10 came out. What happened?
>>533664635They're taking our fucking women
What the fuck do we do????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>>533663117did you fat finger a key?
>>533665418What happens is that people used to hold the 2nd door instead of spawn killing enemies. If you let the chaff through the first doors without killing them, they'll call bug breaches/bot drops and this is when it gets really intense, but they will never call for breaches outside of that area.
>>533665418IIRC it was when they fucked with eradicate to also come in waves instead of a constant stream of drops/breaches and it broke evac to be boring as shit but they never fixed it
Short missions need a rework so badly, they're fucking trash
>>533665228>Over that time the control system was so firmly implemented that it's self-sustaining.I'm willing to admit that this is a possibility, but there's nothing that really confirms either side. However, I will say that the idea that the government that pulled all the heinous shit 100 years ago, forgetting that they were the ones that made their archenemies what they are currently, and effectively falling for their own propaganda, would be hilariously ironic.
>>533665418If you never let them breach the first row of doors they can never really do anything.
Bots can push through and keep pressure with range to hamper you gunning them down from the ramparts and can shoot back at turrets and eventually kill it, as can Squids.
Bugs really struggle if you're on top of your shit in that mission.
>>533665920>However, I will say that the idea that the government that pulled all the heinous shit 100 years ago, forgetting that they were the ones that made their archenemies what they are currently, and effectively falling for their own propaganda, would be hilariously ironic.If Arrowhead had any god damned sense that's how they would have written this entire story, but it's not. As you say, nothing confirms it because AH are committed to their "le fascism" interpretation and prefer it over anything more meaningful. It's why the story is spinning in place and will never go anywhere too. Imagine my horror when I realized this game's setting is only accidentally provocative.
>>533666217>Imagine my horror when I realized this game's setting is only accidentally provocative.Well there's something we can both agree on.
did they break something again? I keep having broken assets purpling all over my game
>>533663117Do you have any sauce? Reverse search is failing me
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>>533665640>WHAT THE FUCK DO WE D-ACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
So many little bitches crying about how this game got like a hundred dollars worth of DLC. Like, really? Come on now, one hundred dollars aint shit to Chad Warden.
Chad Warden wipes his ass with one hundred dollars.
Sheeeeiiiit, I'll give you one hundred dollars just to shut the fuck up, nigga.
>>533671105>He does know about Chad Daddy WardenAbsolute state of this website.
>>533671105Dumb zoom-zoom
>>533667319Looks like bimbosparkle
Criticism of Fascism pretty much fall flat the moment there is an ontological other.
>>533671105>there are people on this site that were born literally yesterday
>ITT, genuine retards trying to act smart without even understanding what they are typing
>>533673390This general is full of predditors
This rifle is decent but it isn't the best.
>>533672717Fascism rides on there being an ontological others and creating one to point the finger at.
>>533674192...so? Fascism is an antibody for threats to the body of society, that is the purpose.
>>533674361my point is an ontological other isn't necessarily genuine or organic, and can be created. see: the nazis creating the enemy out of jewish people, their inorganic ontological other
>>533674361societal germfags in shambles
>>533674489>creating the enemy out of jewish peopleWhy didn't our 8th grade history books tell us about Jewish-operated child brothers in 1920's Berlin?
>>533674620>b-but muh Nazi propaganda?!?!?!You are really really dumb. I just want you to know that.
>>533674712nta but nobody just voted hitler into power for no reason.
>>533675182>propaganda worksgee, really?
its just me or at one moment in the loading screen (hellpod dropping on the planet) fps drops drastically for a 3/5 seconds?
I need my little Tanto. I need my tri-beam Trident, I want a sniper named Scalpel, I want a heavy rifle named Hammer, I want a laser machinegun support named the Scimitar. I NEED gold chrome armor.
AND A MOTHERFUCKING MOTORBIKE
>>533675247>All propaganda has a direction. The quality of this direction determines whether propaganda has a positive or negative effect. Good propaganda does not need to lie, indeed it may not lie. It has no reason to fear the truth. It is a mistake to believe that the people cannot take the truth. They can. It is only a matter of presenting the truth to people in a way that they will be able to understand. A propaganda that lies proves that it has a bad cause. It cannot be successful in the long run. A good propaganda will always come along that serves a good cause.https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/goeb59.htm
>>533674192You dont understand the word ontological
>evacuate civilians defense mission
>spam mines far outside the wall
>this retard keeps running onto them and dying then raging in chat
kek
its fuels me
>>533673901Slug guns are usually rifled. So are most handguns.
Charger Behemoth got promoted from a special spawn to an upgraded version replacing Chargers for higher difficulties.
Why didn't this also happen with Hulk Obliterators replacing Hulk Bruisers?
>>533659210>Back in the office Aug 4th >minimum one week until patch>narrowhead can't stop fucking up so they rush a bugfix patch because Xbox launch in 24 days>Aug 11th, bugfix patch day>it's a disastrous mess that breaks the game in even more fucked up ways>they forgot to even coordinate with the Xbox port team >the game is literally falling apart >the swedes finally realize they're in deep shit with promises to daddy Microsoft to keep>full heads down development actual crunch>Aug 18th, no patch, no communication>people are barely able to launch the game, potential Xbox buyers checking out streamers who are struggling to even play the game consistently>player count bottoming out >Aug 25th, 3 days until Xbox launch >swedistan forgets they also had to add content for the Xbox update >haphazardly slam the undeveloped content into their bugfix patch to fix the bugfix patch that was supposed to fix all the summer update bugs>push the patch with zero testing >game might as well be a dev environment at this point, enemies are pathing into the air, framerate in the 30s; it's an unmitigated disaster >3 days until Xbox launch >HOTFIXHOTFIX>manage to only fix the bugs that literally prevent the game from running and executing>Xbox launch, Xbox port studio immediately quits>Xbox players are treated to the most broken and fucked up state the game has ever been inCalling it now.
>>533674712Your first mistake is assuming that propaganda is always a complete lie. The NSDAP was a progressive organization from the start, made up of everything from Hitler's hardcore nationalists to the Strasserist socialists and Rohm whom everyone knew was a homosexual. That whole situation was more complicated than you will ever give it credit for, ironically because you've been fed propaganda about it yourself.
>>533675258That's when the game is trying to load all the level geometry at once.
>>533674192And there always will be. We've had them for thousands of years and the parasites simply will not die off.
>bug mission
>other 3 are taking 2 recoilless, one quasar
>ok, I can bring an MG then cool
>mission progress
>not a single one of them is taking out tanks
>there is a gaggle of 20 behemoths, impalers, and bile titans fucking us from every angle at all times
?????
i could pick up a recoilless and wipe them all out
but on principle i just wont.
>>533673901rifles don't fire shotgun shells
>>533678298neither does that gun
>>533678180>playing pubsyou only have yourself to blame
also who asked?
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>>533678414it fires slugs, which are contained in shotgun shells just like your various types of buck and birdshot
>>533678859The slugger is rifled, so technically its a rifle.
>>533678938Boring. Give her full armor and helmet.
>>533679078quintessentially indian
Think of a loudout you bring often to any faction.
You got it?
Now tell me how does it change if you didn't have ANY warbond.
>>533678938>nose piercing degenerate
>>533678938>nose piercingSEXO
now give her nip piercings that poke through the shirt just enough to outline them and a g-string
>>533679078>The slugger is rifled, so technically its a rifle.That's not how it works Anon. Even little baby purse guns have rifled barrels.
>>533679516>any primary (leveling them all)>any secondary (not using them)>grenade launcher>warp pack>500kg>Eagle airstrikeOh no, I guess I'll bring the jump pack instead of the warp pack
>>533679078t. cock sucking ATF agent
Does armor rating reduce damage taken by the warp pack?
Post that SPEAR webm from a few days ago I forgot to save it. The one with the Hulks.
>>533678651you just retroactively asked by replying to me.
How do you spin your Talon/Senator?
>>533658338the bugs are a force of nature and don't know what good or evil is, they literally are just predator animals acting on instinct
>>533680731Hold the button you use to select fire and adjust scope settings.
>>533681126doesn't do it for me my guy just stares at the gun
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>>533681382Hold it longer
If the EPOCH doesn't have any demo force because plasma has no mass, then why do the laser cannon, quasar cannon, and orbital laser all have demo force values capable of breaking things?
>>533680231Why would you just randomly out yourself like that?
>>533682086i forgot to include that part in the post i replied to (my own post)
>>533681948they were overbuffed because of bufftranny crying
>>533681948Its really funny how his excuse is because its plasma, but plasma weapons can destroy bio-processors.
>>533682646bio-processors have no armor, you can kill them with your liberator
>>533681948Because lasers are God's sword & i am its vessel
>>533681948>>533682646>This weapon can punch through the glacis plate of an annihilator tank>It's REALISTIC that it can't scratch sheet metal or a chain link fence.
>>533681627I'd like to play the video game. Please join my lobby. It's a Ryoko lobby.
If you hold down whatever the button is to drop markers on the minimap. It will tell you the distance from you to your marker.
This is important because max throwing range is exactly 45 meters, and if you want to throw something anywhere with perfect precision you can use this or q to mark the spot. (Radar helps with marking over wall 380 throws).
You can also do this with throwing arm which is roughly +20 meters
>>533683040It melts the internal circuits.
>Hdg claims to hate realism but keeps using it in arguments against balance
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>>533683628Explain how factory strider armor gets twisted into a tangled mess when you shoot it with the epoch.
>>533683925Reactor fails internally and blows out the side.
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>this kills the realism tranny
https://youtu.be/MGpFEv1-mAo?si=ncBvFeEmSpJdDUnH
Realism is a false god.
Spreadsheet balance is a false god.
Learn from a professional, swiggers.
>>533684063The reactor on its face? In its knees?
>>533684078Y'know the people that argue against the epoch not blowing up shit originally pulled the realism card yeh?
The fanbase is way more autistic about realism than the devs.
The devs just use realism for immersion, and to explain balance decisions after the fact
>>533684337Not THOSE circuits.
>>533684293Oil veins igniting inside it
The Epoch not having demo force isn't even a good from a balance standpoint, which makes all the shit about realistic plasma all the more pointless.
>>533684441>it's immersive for a high explosive anti-tank weapon to be stopped cold by a sheet metal conex shipping container
>>533670860halo warbond?
more like GAY-LO
>>533684441>the devs use realism as an excuse for their bad design choices Yeah.
>>533685585Not a laser, therefore gay
Gayser? More like gaysaar
>>533685585I like it against predator bugs.
>gaysaar cannon
EAT? more like (You) EAT ass.
Arc damage? More like ACK damage
>>533685585A shotgun kinda, in the deadeye sense
You vill Eee Ayy Tee bugs
I can't stop using the constitution
>>533685585>take blitzer>get spewer seed>leave game
>>533685585I have never used a weapon that made me fall asleep using it harder than that one.
>>533685585very consistent CC but you better have something else to actually kill shit. have used it well with MG dog and talon
>>533685585>Literally just face in the direction of enemies and hold down fire: the weapon. You don't even have to aim. In fact, aiming tends to make it miss harder.It's the Illuminates of weapons. Sheer sleep inducing boredom incarnate.
>EATroons perpetually seething about QuasarGODs
lol
LMAO
oh no gucci niggers melty
now she gotta spam basedjaks or else she gets beaten by her parents!
can't we all just get along
>>53368558510/10 pocket weapon for any support weapon you wanna run primarily.
Great with stuff like laser cannon, de-escalator, railgun. Just a generally great gun if you pair it well.
>laugh emote
insta TK and kick, cringe ass shit.
The only good clanker... is a DEAD clanker!
>>533684742Please explain why a gas grenade blows up a shipping container but not the epoch
>>533685585very good against squids (voteless) and predator bugs
kinda crap against everything else
>>533690047Sweden.
>>533690047Its reinforced, bro.
>>533690047warbond wasn't selling
>>533685827Listen here you little shit.our golden lasers are superior in every way to any other weapon. That's why they're gold.
>>533689434no we have to shitpost the exact same things over and over again with no creativity what-so-ever.
>>533689849that never happaned we always play toghter and you've never done this
I miss jumping into SoS' and crashing the lobby by planting the flag. That was fun.
I'm having trouble making a bug loadout I enjoy. I need the following:
>something that can stun/stagger multiple stalkers at the same time consistently with no splash, otherwise I'll harm myself when they're in my face (cookout, bushwhacker, non-AT support weapons, etc.)
>alternatively, does such high DPS that it doesn't need to stagger (lib carbine, breaker, scorcher, stalwart)
>something that can close an entire non-mega nest bug base worth of bugholes without help (explosive primary, frags + engineering kit, grenade pistol, AC/GL)
>mobbing light AND medium armor enemies, since commanders, hive guards, and often green spewers are so common. Feels like light pen is absolutely worthless on bugs aside from niche loadouts like Stalwart + Eruptor, which I'm tired of using since it was my go-to for so long
>solution to deal with chargers/impalers, and possibly BT (would be massive upside for doing all three, like the RR), usually thermites if my support weapon isn't dedicated AT
>solution to deal with BTs if what I need for mobbing + heavies doesn't deal with it (ultimatum, 500kg, railcannon orbital, etc.)
What's your hard-carry loadout that hits all these points? I'm just not enjoying myself on bugs right now but it's all my friends want to play in this MO.
How is the Warrant after the patches? Still wrecking devastator shields and aiming random or really fixed? (worth buying?)
>>533691924I'm still pissed that they went with a guided gimmick instead of alternate ammo types.
>>533691924lost its infinite over-penetration but still the best watcher killer in the armoury
>>533691335Fart drone, torcher, choice of EAT, epoch, quasar, grenade.
All you have to do is be aware of confused enemies slashing wildly but the drone is pretty good at keeping shit off of you so long as you know where enemies are and don't sit there and let them kill you.
>>533690047demo force, the thing that determines whether a given weapon can damage any static construction at all, is a simple threshold with no additional tagging, and gas grenades have a demo force capable of destroying the interior of bug holes- makes sense, bugs panic and collapse the tunnel to seal against toxins, bot fabricators- makes sense, gas ingame is a highly caustic mix of mystery meme chemicals, production line devolves into secondary explosions, and squid dropships- makes sense, delicate void based squid technology goes supercritical from just a tickle
but this also due to swiggercode means that it can pop open shipping containers which have the same demo force threshold of 20 as the inside of enemy spawners- which doesn't make sense if it's the little primer bursting charge doing the job, but makes perfect sense if the gas is melting it.
>so why can't a giant ball of white hot plasma flash melt the shipping container if airborne super acid can?because swiggerukroserbs are retards who need to be sent back to the surstromming mines and probably arbitrarily think it can't do all of the above described things to enemy spawners, which it totally logically can and should
>>533684078>valveThey are not exactly famous for good enemy or gun designs
>>5336838133/4 say shalom when you join
>be me
>find out where Alexus lives
>fire high pressure, super-heated plasma bolt at his front door
>entire wall collapses
>enter his home
>have a friendly chat about the Epoch's demolition force with him
>>533692220Problem with this logic is that they supposedly tried to make a distinction between gas and acid, which is why it turned down suggestions to give gas temporary armor reduction effects. As retarded as it is, it really is just the primer being that powerful I guess.
>>533693207Jokes on you, Alexus lives in THIS house
Do impact grenades 1-shot commanders and green spewers?
>>533693591No
think its' two for both iirc, but the bile spewer plates will be at like 100 HP if you impact it once.
>man, I maxed out my weapon and need to work on something else
>Punisher, hmm... used to love this thing at launch
>join game
>hive guard seed
lmao fuck light pen weapons, jesus
>>533694113>he doesn't bring ap3 secondaries with ap2>he didn't bring boom grenades or firepunishers great tho, really good when you get full choke. Not new breaker good but fun.
>At extract, bugs attacking from all sides
>Shuttle lands, everyone is near the door, but team keeps shooting the bugs
>Signal team to extract, but they keep shooting (I don't get in since I'm not carrying the samples)
>Bugs start to overrun us, run out of reinforces
>Sample carrier doesn't make it into the shuttle before it leaves
Why do people do this? We lost all of the samples for no reason.
>>533694113The punisher is an amazing weapon against any bug seed, retard. Use your secondary or support or grenade to deal with Hive Guards. Or, you know, shoot their legs with the punisher.
>>533695834Oh no. What will players ever do without those 20 samples. People do that because nobody fucking cares.
>anti-tank 'weapon'
>demolitions force: 10
>starter pistol demo force: 10
>>533683813rip game crashed had to verify. GGS
>you're talking to this cute girl when you bring up HD2
>"Helldivers? Isn't that the game where people goon to girls getting raped by bugs and squids?"
How do you respond?
>>533695834Bugniggers have no brains
>>533695958>>533694426Why not just bring a weapon with better AP in that case?
>>533696606"god I wish it was, that'd be so hot"
>>533696606>"I only goon to turning bugs, bots, and squids into my wives."
>>533696638because they tend to have worse chaff clear, and I like using my secondaries. Currently I run talon + breaker and its really satisfying how much they compliment eachothers weakness.
>>533691335>something that can stun/stagger multiple stalkers at the same time Autocannon.
>high DPSAutocannon.
>>something that can close an entire mega nestAutocannon.
>mobbing light AND medium armorAutocannon, flak mode.
>solution to deal with chargers/impalers, and BTsAutocannon.
>>533694113Ignore
>>533695958 Punisher is a meme and so is any pure stagger weapon. They only work when combined with already good strats like guard dogs, sentries, etc.
They do none of the lifting and are just set dressing to an already good loadout. If you want to bring a bad stagger weapon bring the Pummeler or Concussive, or bring a good stagger weapon like the Dominator.
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>>533697074BASED autoGOD
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>>533696606>No you're just permanently on /hdg/ instead of playing the game like a normalnperson
>>533697074>BTs>autocannoneh
there's gucci business afoot
>>533697208It's the best AP4 weapon to deal with them.
What is the most efficient way to deal with Chargers and BTs with the AC?
>>533697473BTs shoot the head 10 times
Chargers shoot the ass, if you get one shot off on the ass then you have a kill as it'll be staggered and wont turn, if you cant get an ass shot then focus on a leg
>>533697507he just asked a question dude
messed up insult
>bring autocannon
>have answer to litterally everything
>Can bring stupid shit like rail cannon and laser orbital because of this
Only downside is that it's really monotonous and everything else just kinda exists in your kit.
the problem with the AC is that it is too easy to treat it like a solution to every problem. i bring a primary and secondary for a reason ffs, im going to use them
I fucking hate gloom bugs.
I hope this MO fails.
Fuck you bugniggers.
>>533697507>>533697632I'm guessing to use AP instead of Flak?
>>533697737but laser orbital is good...
what if 500kg was plasma...
>>533697926>Slightly tankier chaff filters /hdg/ resident
>>533696606You're a woman, so I don't care what your opinion is.
>>533697926I hate how bugged they are in the city.
They just attack endlessly even if you stun them.
>>533698521this is how bugs acted when they were being harvested like cows
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>don't want bugs to melee my turret
>gas grenade them
>they immediately pathfind to my turret and destroy it
>>533691335>>533697159>>533697507>Hello, I'm Butthead. For hundreds of hours, I found myself unable to git gud. >But then one day a friend introduced me to a product that changed my life forever:
>>533698423>On high ground>Casually burning charger>Hunter clips through wall
>>533692593notice how you didn't say their designs were "unfun"?
>>533698656Gas only starts confusing after the AI finishes their last attack command, basically. So if the AI is commanded to run up and hit something they will do that first, then because they are hit with the confusion the AI jumbles their orders up. It's stupid as shit, but given how eurojank this game already is it's not a surprise.
>>533696606>I know it turns you on. Let's dive later.>Oh.. And don't forget your light kit, cadet.
>>533699480why does this game hate cc status effects so much?
>>533692593ironically most of their faults were because they chased after realism instead of fun.
EG: look at hl1 compared to quake or any other shooter of that decade. It's very realistic, but the combat is extremely boring.
Same with hl2.
But then you look at shit like tf2 that used cartoonish logic because they wanted to get around the silly nature of the setting, and it helped them do things that otherwise would be stupid but make sense in the universe. They never said "hurr why does a rocket do the same damage as a scattergun point blank"
surely we get this as a support weapon at some point, as mortar sentries were a mistake
>>533699837>can set it up and make your own emplacement, insanely fast load times>can carry it around and shoot the mortar tube, lot longer load time
>>533699662Because they developers are retarded.
>>533698423Not even the worst part.
The worst part is you lose Reqs anytime the bug die near people as the gloom acid kills them all.
at this point i shoot the fucking civilians myself if SE is gonna bill me for them.
>>533699647You know too much
>adds scifi plasma technology
>its a straight downgrade compared to chemical based high-explosive weaponry
Is this more poignant satire I'm not media literate enough to understand? Am I even playing the game right by winning?
>>533699837there's no way they add the rumbler when mortar sentries exist
reminder that gas grenades close bug holes and fabricators but your highly volatile and explosive plasma cannon (which has Heavy AP and explosive AOE, two irrefutable components of "demolition force") can't
>>533699662>make enemies that die in one shot>make cc options happen by the time they die>make an enemy with the highest HP in the game>CC stuns doesn't even work on itThey're retarded, but it's mostly the game being bugged.
Honestly it's satisfying stunning things and piling up enemies before flinging a couple grenades to kill them all. Like stun builds are valid, but a lot of stun weapons just don't work right now.
>de-escalator>stun lasts like 1 second>Arc thrower>takes 3 shots to stun heavies, and kills anything else you zap in one shot>pacifier/pummeler>kills shit before the stun applies>Halt>Stun lasts 1 second>Ems>Cucked by cities and barely covers any radius>EMS sentry>typically stuns your teammates (decent on bots)>stun grenades>decent but you're giving up a big slot for a momentary stun, also doesn't lock down heavies>Urchins>Stun takes too long to apply to heavies, and the AOE is non existant>Arc nades>kinda broken, and unreliableLike stuns are great. Just they need to get off their high horse and make stun weapons actually stun properly.
>>533700217I haven't gotten reqs from a bug city mission I'm usually like 2000 in the hole at the end of each
>>533700379 >This, recruits, is a 20 kilo ferrous slug. Feel the weight!
>Every five seconds, the main gun of an Everest-class dreadnought accelerates one, to 1.3% percent of light speed.>It impacts with the force a 38 kiloton bomb. >That is three times the yield of the city-buster dropped on Hiroshima back on Earth. >That means, Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son-of-a-bitch in space! >Now! Serviceman Burnside, what is Newton's First Law?>Sir! An object in motion stays in motion, sir!>No credit for partial answers maggot!>Sir! Unless acted on by an outside force, sir!>Damn straight! >I dare to assume you ignorant jackasses know that space is empty. >Once you fire this hunk of metal, it keeps going 'til it hits something. >That can be a ship, or the planet behind that ship. >It might go off into deep space and hit somebody else in 10,000 years! >If you pull the trigger on this, you are ruining someones day! Somewhere and sometime! >That is why you check your damn targets! >That is why you wait 'til the computer gives you a damn firing solution. >That is why, Serviceman Chung, we do not 'eyeball it'. >This is a weapon of Mass Destruction! >You are NOT a cowboy, shooting from the hip!
>>533699837You know, I honestly can't think of a use case for the regular mortar. The thing just fucking sucks in so many ways.
>impact delay makes it worthless against faster enemies>three-round barrages are wasteful>the fucking thing is TK city if enemies get within melee range, which they almost always do>even the EMS Mortar ends up wasting a bunch of ordnance because it continuously targets enemies that are already stunned and forces you to hunt them downIf enemy engagement ranges were always between 50 and 150 meters, then yeah it could be handy, but the close-range nature of combat in this game just makes it so unfeasible. I don't even know if the "mortar targets pinged enemy" feature actually works properly.
>already can't see shit half the time on bug maps
>secondary objective that makes it so you can't see shit
>heavy enemy that makes it so you can't see shit around it (is also dead silent due to shit audio mixing)
>introduce subfaction that explodes into dust when you kill them so you can't see shit
What the fuck is wrong with these swedes
>>533701207Lower the difficulty
Why does every gun have all sights except the one you want for it?
>no 1.5x for Adjudicator, Tenderizer
>no 2x for Deadeye, Dominator, Diligence, Slugger
>no 4x for Scythe
It's not that you can only have 5 sight options either, some have all 6 for no particular reason, out of the 8 total. On top of that, of the options present the one you'd obviously want for that particular weapon is almost always the last one you unlock at level 22-24. Just makes no sense and it feels almost spiteful.
>>533701024>>Once you fire this hunk of metal, it keeps going 'til it hits something. >>That can be a ship, or the planet behind that ship. then later they show a massive space battle sequence with hundreds of ships and thousands of these these being fired with earth as the backstop
>>533701512fucking chungs
>>533701207My friends started turretmaxxing from day 1. I thought they were being shitters for refusing to learn how to shoot, but maybe they were onto something.
>>533701172It's really good on bots. Place it central to a couple POIs and it'll take out anything inside while also taking out patrols that come in. It can also take out cannon turrets if you manage to get the target thing to work. Haven't tried it on squids but I could actually see it be pretty decent with how much the patrols bunch up.
It's kinda like a soft napalm orbi, clears the chaff out in anything for you before you go in. It also ignores LOS which a lot of sentries fumble with.
>>533701207don't forget that every enemy has an attack that slows you
>Hit by bug
>I randomly fall through the stairs
This shit is why I never take off the warp pack. This dogshit game is too unreliable.
>>533701512To be fair at this point, there wasn't really anything left of earth
>>533701613Sentries are basically free DPS in whatever flavor you want.
I always take gatling / machine gun sentry on squids just to nuke overseers.
>>533701172Are you retarded? Theres lots of uses
You use it when youre getting overrun, or when storming a stronghold like a bot fortress or orbital cannon, it works like a personal walk barrage almost. and its also great for defense missions. You just need to stay away from the enemyโ like, pretend that you have guns or something
>>533701207>>533701432>Blinding you is the only way bugs provide any sort of challengeCurious....
>>533701891>You use it when youre getting overrun>Throw down mortar sentry>Its programmed to target enemies closest>It kills the entire teamStay the fuck out of my games
>>533701793truly. I often find myself holding space when some dumb bullshit happens, even if I'm not wearing it
>>533691335>Blitzer>Ultimatum>Thermite>Grenade Launcher>Supply Pack>EAT>500kgBasically the bug starter pack.
>>533701613I only bring greens and blues to city maps, orbitals and eagles are worthless in them
>>533702086try not standing next to enemies :^)
>>533696606No woman in the history of women would ever utter that sentence.
>>533701432>D11 bugs>can only see 10ft ahead of you at all times>D11 bots>get automatically ragdolled every 10 seconds
>Just found out theres a bug where chargers turn 2X faster for the host
I KNEW I WASNT FUCKING CRAZY. THESE COCKSUCKERS LITERALLY CHEAT
>>533701613sentries are just four other helldivers you can call down
>>533702613Would actually present a challenge compared to the current d10.
>Several bugs and issues involved with the queer 2 queer connection
>Still refuse to get dedicated servers
Come the fuck on, Arrowhead. Even Darktide has dedicated servers.
>>533702823>haha what if you couldn't see or play the game>ummm actually this would be goodNerftrannies are a parody of themselves.
>>533703115Every suggestion to make the game "harder" is a thinly veiled nerftranny post. They never talk about improving the enemy or making them more intelligent, its always "WHAT IF WE HAD LESS OF X???"
>>533702823It'd also give more power to weapons like spear and what not.
Like honestly, I wish we got the spore stuff more often like spore chargers were more present. It'd give more power to tools like rocket pods and rail cannon. While recoiless wouldn't be as powerful due to needing a clear LOS for headshots.
>>533702721Source? That would explain a lot, sometimes these fuckers do a near 180ยฐ drift for no apparent reason
Would it be weird to want an "occult" warbond where a bunch of scientist got weird after studying the squids?
A purple/white armor that has a hooded helmet with the hint of tentacles, and bulky energy rifle that has a melee mode to swing it like a staff, black hole grenades, etc.
All made by scientists who may have been conpromised backward engineering squid tech
>>533702721the bug where alpha commanders only sic alpha warriors on the host?
>>533703115Use.
Your.
Radar.
>Add dog
>Add hound master that sends them at player
>They also spawn in groups if youre too far away from someone else
>They work like hunter pouncers but far more aggressive
>When pounced, they begin to maul you to death
>The only way to get them off is by having someone shoot them off or melee them
>This would kill solotrooning and incentivize teamwork
>>533703367I honestly wonder if helldivers has enough life in it before we get the sequel in a year or something.
>>533703530>spawns a 2 patrols behind you the moment you lower it>>533703645sounds complicated, arrowhead would rather just spawn 4 heavydevs behind you
>Bro just stare are a screen covered in shit fumes for the entire game, just use your radar to see anything
>>533699335They are not FUN, mediocre at best
>>533699804>look at hl1 compared to quake or any other shooter of that decade. It's very realistic, but the combat is extremely boringIt's a Valve issue. Monolith managed to make "realistic" combat fun.
This whole discussion about realism is bullshit. Guns have to work consistently according to rules set by the game. If lasers set shit on fire, then any laser gun should do the same, explosions destroy things and bigger payloads make bigger booms. Anyway, AH is shit at balancing things. They can't make a single change to the railcannon strat just to see if a lower cooldown will incentivize people to use it more.
>>533703898the nerftranny doesn't actually play the game and doesn't know this is a thing
>>533703278>They never talk about improving the enemyHow about making everything but the weakspots more armored so you can't just shoot wherever you want to kill them
Oh wait, they already did the opposite
>or making them more intelligentHow about making enemies be able to shoot properly, shoot/attack behind cover and attack you at the same time?
Oh wait, they already did the opposite
>>533703278they don't know what difficulty is. They only know bigger health bar and more damage
>>533703645>This would kill solotrooning and incentivize teamwork...and that's why it would never work
>>533663995trump voters are so damn obvious
>>533704163How about you present an argument?
Oh wait, you already did the opposite
>>533685585It used to have a very niche roll of being good on predator bugs but since the Alexus ""fix"" of status effects, it can no longer stun/stagger enemies in a reliable manner. Trying to lock down ONE overseer and it can still fire back or melee during the stun/stagger animation. Fucking butchered along with every other arc weapon
>>533685585Great if it isn't your main workhorse.
Stunning with unlimited ammo and good enough damage.
>>533705062Obviously they had to nerf the very overpowered arc thrower and sterilizer before fixing any of the 100 bugs and glitches that plague the game or doing any kind of optimization
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>>533704675The argument is "improving the enemies" and "making them smarter" means reverting the nerfs
You should try reading a few books instead of playing videogames
>>533705368Please understand, the QA guy that only plays for 2 hours on D6 insisted they were sleeper OP and mega busted
>>533705778Thats not what I said, retard. I said nerftrannies always suggest taking away stuff from the players and making them weaker instead of suggesting changes to the enemies.
Try getting some reading comprehension
Oh wait, you already did the opposite.
>make it so explosives cant ragdoll you through solid, unbroken terrain
>make it so bots cant clip INTO TERRAIN and shoot you through it
>they already did the opposite
holy shit kill yourself you puuuertoguese retard
>>533705802>but I play 8 to 10Nigger doesn't play the game at all, much less on 8 to 10. How else do you explain shit like the flag bug 100% crashing everyone else other than no testing at all. If I wanted to be incredibly generous you could say they only tested it solo, but given the nature of the game that seems incredibly stupid. Which is honestly perfectly on brand for swiggers.
This fucking thread is so far up its own ass on bullshit contrarian fucking misery. Just cyclic ragebait over mechanics & guns & round & fucking round you fuckers go.
>Arrowhead internal dev build always 2 builds behind the live version
>This is why bugs constantly re-emerge and break shit
>But this also implies they update the dev build to be 2 updates behind
Why.... Why not just update it to the current build??????
>>533706202The number of genuine discussions I've had here are in the single digits. It's literally just not worth trying to reason with the average anon that mucks around this place, and the sooner people catch onto that, the better.
>>533706528The last genuine discussion we had is whether the robutt squirts oil or lubricant
>fleshmobs and terminids still clip through buildings in urban areas and attack from right below where you're standing
Great game swiggers. Glad you nerfed stun (lmao) instead of fixing all the glaring issues before fucking off to go on vacation.
>>533706202These people come to rage. I only give them what they want so their their blood pressure levels rise to life-threatening levels so when they go to the doctor they'll be given the choice to chill the fuck out or shit themselves to death.
>>533706490Because they want to drip feed content instead of releasing everything they've done in one go
>>533706490tl dr: Swiggers failed basic programming
>>533706785>faggot circlejerking with the AI slop posting, avatarfagging turdieYou are a worthless pathetic mongrel
>>533706202>>533706528I accept your concession.
>>533707170Tell us how you really feel, anon.
>>533706490>>533707012so on that note when do they fix too many sounds at once causing all sound to disappear for a second and even the entire game to suffer mini freezes if there's enough going on? they are going to fix it, right?
right?
>>533707541Contemptful, slightly disgusted
>>533707718Only slightly?
>>533707660*Takes away ship sounds from you* here's your reworked sound engine bro
>>533707359Im not even fucking arguing with you fuckface im here to post goofy memes, post about what happened in my games & talk about possible future fucking content, & shit & every fucking time im drown out by pathetic fucking wars over how you fuckers want the game to cater only to whatever your fucking playstyle is. I dont give a shit. I find the game fun the way I play it, I just want to talk about the fucking game but I cant cause you fuckers are toxic as hell
>>533706528>>533706943Yeah I dont know if this is the place for me anymore
>>533707824how do you even introduce a previously unknown sound channel memory leak that didn't exist in any previous version with their retarded version control
They should nerf the MMG next
>b-but it's not that strong
Yeah but it would be funny to see the butthurt
>>533708481Thanks for posting
>>533708445saar the brahmin coding is simply too powerful for a swedish engine we must making the move to unreal engine 5 faster (this is the secret project)
>>533706785Probably lubricant
>>533703898that's like saying aliens are impossible because you took levi modifier
>>533708445Who is doing the coding?
>imported codemonkeysWho is in charge of the studio?
>a cartoonishly hebrew man whose previous job posting was Paradox Interactive, a publisher notorious for buggy half-baked releases and habitually castrating their own products
>>533704067>Guns have to work consistently according to rules set by the game.but plasma doesn't blow up stuff
>>533706159running theory is that it's the way they test on local servers that cause this
>increase ergonomics
>handling improves
>sway increases
explain this
>>533709881Ergonomics is probably hard coded to increase the speed at which a gun moves, so if you have sway the sway value increases the higher your ergo is.
like
>Gun speed = x>ergonomics multiplies gun movement speed>Sway = gun movement speed * sway value and some pattern movement shit.
>>533709881Alexus was here
>>533709881>>533710101war thunder stabilizer code moment
>>533703278because smarter AI isn't realistic to achieve or worth anything. Tuning numbers and the meta is easier to do and will actually impact the game.
Like one of the biggest modifiers to difficulty is the 25% cooldown mod.
And that's like changing one number slightly.
>>533710101it would be easy to test this. find a gun that has the greatest swing between ergonomics values with the various attachemnts. record the sway with the highest ergo and then again with the lowest ergo and overlap the footage to see if there's a difference in how much the third person reticle moves.
>>533710235I mean this is just theory if what anon said is even true
>>533710374>because smarter AI isn't realistic to achieve or worth anythingDarktide Shooters duck behind cover and press their advantage, grenadiers stay in the back to harass the team, Bulwarks charge into your face
Helldiver 2 AI: Everyone holds W at you and shoots
>>533710669I mean shield grunts do this on aliens.
hunters will fan out and attack you at angles.
Alpha commanders will fall back and call until their numbers are adequate to overwhelm you.
The problem is that the engine is so fucking janky adding more shit like complex AI would be a herculian task at this point. It's easier to just ask for some number tweaks than "DUDE JUST LIKE- MAKE THE BUGS LIKE HIDE BEHIND COVER AND LIKE USE TACTICS AND-" when you're just gonna one shot them regardless.
>>533710532the breaker would be the obvious choice here, short mas + angled vs vert + drum
DUDE JUST LIKE- MAKE THE BUGS LIKE HIDE BEHIND COVER AND LIKE USE TACTICS AND DUDE WEED
>Enemy AI all bunching up to round a corner in a single mob (my eagle strafe is already inbound)
Wow great AI, much difficulty, very challenging
>>533711258So you want your strategems to be useless?
>>533711258this newfag doesn't remember when patrols used to clump up in the center of the map until you could get a triple digit killstreak with one airstrike
Whats the most fuggable bug?
>>533711434I dont speak brown babbon gibberish. Could you rephrase that in the form of an actual argument?
>I think the game should be harder
>S-SO YOU WANT EVERYTHING TO BE USELESS??
bufftroons, everybody
>>533711948Bile titans dont look like that
>>533711804By what metric?
>>533711948my bile titan wife
>>533711948BUGS DO NOT LOOK LIKE THAT.
>>5337056493/4 for last mission
>>533698521>this is the future fugdivers want
>>533711883>the ideas to make the game harder>cut player damage by half>triple the enemy healthNerftroons, everybody
>>533711804it's not even close
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>>533655140Nice choice of armor but I think this helmet looks better with it.
>>533712743I do think think the enemies should be harder to kill and you should be forced off objectives if you stick around on them for too long. I like how ayys do it, but it's possible to counter the amount of enemies that spawn with shit like fire that just scales per enemy.
>>533711178Even Fallout 4 has better bug AI.
>>533660773certain the poles are still looking for a reason to chimp out on germany and russia to this day
>>533713378>Tripple A studio
>>533698521>Me and my daughters
>no medium siege-ready
>no peak physique that has an aesthetic which can be matched with literally any other helmet/cape in the game besides the one it comes with
>only heavy engineering kit sets are ugly or make you look obese
When are they going to let us just pick the passive we want?
>>533713885Literally never. Best you can hope for is color customization.
>>533713885Apples flavored surstromming
>>533714054That would honestly be fine, as long as there's an armor of every passive in each category.
>EATs on bots, comfy af
>EATs on bugs, miserable, always getting chased from my own delivery pods when I actually need them
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>>533714357Actual skill issue, just throw it in the direction you are running in
Better yet, stick it on a charger
>>533714357still better than the RR reload that moves at the speed of polio
>>533714538Democratic dog. Would pet.
>>533714357>carry eat on back>See enemy>Drop eat>shoot it>by the time it took to kill it, eat lands and grab it
>>533714538Awfully quiet around here. Still 1/4.
I'll wait for 5 more minutes, then I'll go in anyway
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>>533713885All but one medic set look like pic related
>>533715903>>533716023hm. Maybe I took too long to make an invite. Try this one.
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>>533716140alright now we're talking. 4/4. Thanks
>>533716140RIP I'm banned from the session because you had to kick me to get me off the infinite load screen lmao
>>533716140>>533716483welp. 3/4 I guess. We're waiting for (you)
(you should try again just in case)
Literally the only problem i have with the quasrรจ is that the charge up is so long if you get flinched while aiming you're gonna have a bad time
>>533716592Doesn't work, don't wait on me.
>>533716079heavy medic armor looks like a toilet seat
>>533716140well. Still 3/4. We're diving on the first mission of the OP. Any anon can join.
>>533716627makes unflinching useful at least.
>>533717019that would be true if unflinching worked
>>533717197which would be true if unflinching didn't work.
>>533717019I wouldn't know. I pretty much only use Scout cause I hate moving slow
>>533716019still 2/4 starting soon
>>533717197it does work but the lack of visual feedback still can throw you off.
>there are unironic scout users in this very thread
stealth trannies kill yourselves pls
>jetpack, MMG, napalm barrage, MG turret, Eruptor, Ultimatum, thermites, engineering kit
There is truly no better feeling.
>>533718378eruptor is really fun, honestly I just build around it like rockets, and a shit ton of chaff clear for lone stragglers.
What's the difference between the two firing mode for autocannon? And what's also a good primary? I haven't played since they introduced the weapons attachments/upgrades.
>>533718378> X barragekicked
>>533718493What do you normally run with the eruptor?
>>533718541flak mode is proximity based and shits out shrapnel. in two cones perpendicular to the target. Other mode is base mode.
Flak is good for fliers on every faction taking them out pretty efficiently, but will proc on map geometry. Also amazing for flesh mobs.
Good primaries pretty subjective, almost everything these days is good. Eruptor feels amazing right now, ARs are hyper accurate with attachments, and drum mags are very satisfying.
>>533718541APHET is for armored enemies/weakpoints, like shooting a hulk's face. Flak is for groups of enemies close together, shriekers and fleshmobs.
>>533718541APHE zips through single medium targets without careful aim and damages most heavies with slightly more aim, has a tame splash area that does less collateral but likely won't do more than knock over a danger close teammates (you still should avoid doing that.) Flak turns chaff carpets into shrapnel riddled mulch and can do the same to the weak parts of mediums if you land it dead on instead of fusing early, potentially killing them even more effectively than APHE verging on being an auto eruptor, which is a potential hazard to friendlies.
>>533718974Commando for ayys. Eats for bugs. Both with warp pack because it helps keep the spacing inbetween shots. Side arm is typically talon due to how it manages itself. I don't like using anything that wants to be used frequently, usually something that's very bursty so I can swap back to eruptor.
Eruptor will fuck up mediums but isn't perfect for chaff clear, so I usually use talon for any single targets. That and I'll use flame nades to make some breathing room.
Bots you don't have to worry about this so much, and I just bring whatever rocket I want. (I prioritize rockets because eruptor is equivallent to running any single target AP4 weapon in a lot of cases). That and it's single shot which again compliments eruptor well.
It's pretty flexibile outside that and I usually just fill with what the team needs.
>>533718974nta but I usually take it with the Stalwart, MMG, HMG or LC, basically anything I'd use like a primary
>>533709881>>533710101>>533710137>>533710235looks to me ergonomics the opposite effect on sway. Higher ergonomics has less movement than lower ergonomics.
Webm depicts moving from a sprint to third person ADS over the same distance and with the same timing for the same stamina consumption and recovery time, and to show both moving and stationary sway.
Left is eruptor with iron sights and angled foregrip while wearing peak physique for a total effective ergonomics value of 65
Right is eruptor with 10x scope and vertical foregrip and no peak physique for a total effective ergonomics value of 11
They are then overlayed with the lower ergonomics at 33% opacity, appearing as the fainter third person reticle.
A difference of 54 ergonomics value between the two setups and the lower ergonomics setup appears to have significantly more vertical movement in the stationary sway than the higher ergonomics setup. The third person reticle stays closer to the center on the high ergonomics setup compared to the low ergonomics setup, which only makes sense as the higher ergonomics makes the weapon 'recover' faster from the sway induced movement like it does with recoil induced movement.
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>>533718974I normally run:
Eruptor
Talon (or Senator for bots)
Thermites
Stalwart or MMG
Guard Dog (for bugs and squids)
2 red stratagems (3 with bots)
Engineering kit medium armor for the extra grenades and help with using MMG
>>533720583nice drip.
But good work anon, appreciate the amount of effort you put into making this.
>>533718974>bugsMMG/bushwhacker/Thermites
Stalwart/Ultimatum/Thermites
>botsQuasar/Talon/Stun nades
>squidsStalwart/GP/Gas nades
>>533718745Pissy baby gonna pee pee poo poo waaaaaaa
GOO GOO SOMEONE TOOK BARRAGE GA GA GOO GOO WAAAA
>>533718745I haven't seen anyone griefing or being retarded with a barrage in months. Most people I play with at D10 are 150 nolifers like me and don't make that mistake. I'm surprised that people still have beef about it.
>>533720880I wish more people did the same instead of spouting completely baseless claims and having people just believe it
>>533719425>can do the same to the weak parts of mediums if you land it dead on instead of fusing earlycan you reliably do this somehow or is it just dogshit outside of the sweet spot range where it'll directly or nearly impact before releasing the shrapnel?
I want to watch helplessly as Squid bvlls rape Super Earth women!
Does anyone want to play?
>>533720583This is a very good comparison. Thank you for this.
>>533718974MMG + peak physique for squids and bugs. If you're not willing to be green then take commando i guess. Trust me though, the medium AP is worth it.
>>533721606no it's pretty much a shitshoot made easier by there being no low terrain/foliage/corpses, sometimes you can sneak shells a mans' height right over a friendly with no problems and slam a bug commander or a dev in the soft bits, sometimes the fuse wants to go bang before anything is even in the killzone. But usually it plays nice enough to get in the midst of something you want shrapnel'd.
i want the apc so fucking bad its unreal
the swiggers have no right to keep holding it from us
>I just realized you can seperate the bind for climbing and backpack use
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>>533722345We've heard you and understood, the APC is now delayed until 2030
>>533722345what are you gonna do with the APC when you get it?
>>533722345Convinced we're never getting heavier vehicles because arrowhead refuses to make them good enough to be worth taking.
>>533722382what would you even rebind it to?
Also use backpack 5 is different from jet pack use.
>>533722523>because arrowhead refuses to make them good enough to be worth taking.when has that ever stopped them before? from the amount of bitching you see literally everything we have now qualifies or qualified at one point
>>533722345>Gives it 2 armour>Every weapon is med pen>Limited ammo you cant replenish >Limited to 2 uses per missionYoure welcome, bro :)
>>533720642Room for 1 more!
>>533720642Democracy needs (You).
The only times I don't immediately return to ship once I get on the pelican is so I can deathmog shitty pubbies that die too much
>>533721827DIG THROUGH THE DITCHES AND BURN THROUGH THE WITCHES
I SLAM IN THE BACK OF MY DRAGULA
>>533722382Bet you haven't figured how to bind options from the weapon wheel to your Mouse Button 4 and 5 so that you can instantly change with one click between different fire modes and round types.
>>533722694I have an MMO mouse so I have a ton of options to choose from. Also why the hell cant we change it from "Hold" to "tap"
>>533723116>they still haven't implemented a key bind to swap ammo types or fire modes
im such a fucking mouselet
>>533723942>His mouse only has 3 buttons (including the mouse wheel).
>>533716140>>533714538cheers fellas
was tons of fun
also Susie is the best undertale character
>>533722484he mindbroke millions....
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>>533716140good games gents
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So I guess the playerbase finally discovered why these fucking things are so inconsistent. Sometimes they charge you, spawn enemies, and are generally a menace. Most of the time they just exist and seemingly lose the will to live.
Turns out their AI literally ceases to exist unless they're engaged with the lobby host. Specifically engaged with the host, because the host just being nearby doesn't do anything. If the Alpha Commander is trying to kill any player but the host, his AI breaks and he just walks off in a random direction until he despawns. He doesn't attack, spawn enemies, or anything. If he's targeting the host, he'll actually start spawning endless waves of alpha warriors.
10 months of thinking /hdg/ was trying to gaslight me about this enemy. I guess it was just solodivers insisting that they've been fine?
How does this even happen?
>>533723116anon you fucking boomed me
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>>533722757Specifically what i mean is that they can't realistically give them mech syndrome. "Erm, its a lightly armored weapons platform actually :^)" logic doesn't work for a fucking tank. In other words there's no way to implement them in a way that isn't survivable (I.E. good). The concept of a vehicle stratagem that isn't a gimmick gives arrowhead conniptions. Sure, you could just make them die to bot turrets, but then what's even the point? Were never getting the tank.
>>533725117idk what you're talking about, they seem fine to me
>>533725449I don't think it could have been laid out any clearer but you do you
The thing about Helldivers 2 is that Super Earth is so incompetent and evil that we have by our sheer touch corrupted and tortured every other faction into being even more cruel in response to our unjustified aggression.
We're the good guys simply because we were so retarded we somehow made everyone else worse than us.
>>533725117>How does this even happen?vibe coding and hiring Indians
>>533725498nah I'm pretty sure you're just making shit up for attention again. Alpha commanders have never had an issue with their ai
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>>533725117>10 months of thinking /hdg/ was trying to gaslight me about this enemyno, i was the only one who was pushing the idea for the past 10 months because im the only solodiver in the general
>fuck with keybindings
>set strategem input to press, and the inputs to arrow keys
>can't tell if I like this more or not
The extra hand movement is kinda obnoxious, but at the same time I'm able to run while inputting.
>>533725117>>533725653This isn't actually a new issue and it's been reported for months
https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1i661f1/bug_alpha_commanders_almost_only_spawn_alpha/
What they're supposed to do is retreat and spawn warriors on anyone
What they do if you're not the host though is just walk towards you
>>533725959how long have you been a movelet for?
>>533725117Might as well make helldivers open source with how incompetents the team is getting
>>533718090>>533718160At least find your balls enough to quote me fellas. It's not my fault you fucks suck at dodging shots. Im notvwaiting at the evac for you to waddle over either, the Pelican can hold four people & you count as fucking three fat ass. Burn some calories & skip the bus lol
>>533726059like 1300 hours, I usually dive and input and get the input before I land. This feels kinda clunky and like the pros are that I can run while inputting, which rarely comes up.
>>533725653you can go into a game right now and test it, I don't know why you're being so hostile and confidently wrong
i dont use scout nor am a stealth tranny
i just run and overdose on stims
>>533726329damn, that's gonna be hell to break the muscle memory. running and strating is super convenient and even life saving a lot of the times
gloryfags mad stealthchads are better players itt
(((Gucci))) business afoot Helldivers
>point out shitters are being shitters
>immediately LE GUCCI SLIPPERS
the fuck are you retards on about?
>>533654721 (OP)Your turrets will shoot that, btw
Discord niggers tongue my anus.
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>fire damage only works for the host
>gas damage only works for the host
>alphas only spawn their minions if they're attacking the host
>Motivational Shocks booster removes stuns from enemies
>day 999999 of enemies being unable to spawn at map edge extractions
anything else for the naughty list before I send my bi-weekly bug report to Arrowhead (they never reply to me)
>>533725117>How does this even happen?Pure eurojank, that's how. I know we typically associate eurojank with the slavs, but when these swiggers hire a serb like Alexus to work on their game the game is pretty much eurojank in spirit.
How is medium siege-ready armour still not a thing?
>>5337274592/4
>>533726293Yea it's a bugdiver with nappy orb
>>533726352I don't know why you keep making shit up to try to gaslight me. There is not any issue with alpha commanders
>>533727636Make sure to mention how bug bricks is boring as FUCK because the spawns on that mission were broken when they introduced impalers to the game.
>>533727787oh you're doing a funny
my bad I was getting genuinely upset with you for a minute
>>533727636Understood. We will nerf stun weapons immediately.
>>5337274595 more mins and cancel this lobby. Dead fucking general everytime I make one.
>>533727636>>fire damage only works for the host>>gas damage only works for the hostnot exactly true. it works on the basis of proximity to the host. close to the host? works fine for the client. far from the host? doesn't work for the client
>>533728532oh yeah and this has already been reported
said they know about DoTs not working but didn't know it is apparently based on proximity
Turing is probably already lost, and there will only be 23 hours left for the MO when it falls
There's no way that's enough time to take it back, right? Does that mean no gloom expeditions?
>>533729117HOW ARE WE FAILING THE MO DEFENSES? THERE'S ONLY TWO PLANETS WE NEED TO DEFEND
>>533729482>defense MO (again)>defend against a gorillion high level invasions at the same time (again)>ohhh no haha how could this happen you failed the MO (again)Same shit every time.
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>>533729978GG
>>533728532Alright so what I've gathered from not just every single host-related bug, but the core gameplay issues that have been reported since launch...
is that AH designed this entire game under the assumption that players were always going to stick together, ala Helldivers 1. I assume all of their playtesting (however little that actually is) also has all the devs clumped together, never splitting up.
The whole game, from bugs to enemy design to simple spawning mechanics, it all assumes the players are within the same distance of each other as the original top down twinstick shooter. The moment everyone separates every single thing just fucking falls apart? And there's nothing to even remotely encourage players to stick together, so just about every single game is going to be a bug ridden mess.
>>533729117>>533729482>>533729845When are you retards going to learn how megacities work?
>>533729117Even if we take both cities we're still on track to lose the defense. Turns out that when you tell the player base to split three ways in a game that relies on 70% of the player base being in one place you force a loss.
>>533685585Blitzer is my weaponfu
Ever since they added the Talon you no longer just casually get shit on by spewers
Basically just a slower shotgun with infinite ammo and stuns. Great for bugs and squids. Terrible on bots.
>>533730965Explain what I'm missing.
>>533732268Cities give a massive boost to liberation/defense. The bigger the city, the more liberation but they also take long
So in order from longest to take/biggest bonus from smallest to highest would go as such:
>Town>City>MegacityHowever Arrowhead is lazy as hell and every single one uses the mega city layout like in super earth, the other difference is the fauna which can admittedly look very pretty.
>>533721243he still plays with sub 150 pubs that drop barrages 20m from the team
>>533730965The troonies here, on reddit, and the discord understand how the mega cities work, but are only small part of the player population. The blob of dad gamers, chinks, brownoids, and weedbrains do not. They press quickplay and that's it.
>>533732158Kinda wish you'd just keel over and die by now.
>>533725402my heroin fueled tin foil hat theory is this game wasn't even going to be helldivers at first, its so far removed from the staples of the first game that I'm inclined to believe the original team got moved to work on whatever the original prototype of HD2 was.
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d10 whatevs
>>533732158Let me ask you, does a machine like yourself ever experience orgasm
>it's either a furry or weaboo lobby
grim
>>533735160>game full of furry mods>anime sitewhat were you expecting? CoD dudebros?
>>533732158direct downgrade
whenever I'm in a city I intentionally kill as many civilians as I can (in mega cities in Helldivers 2, SEAF soldiers too)
>>533685585I played bugs today using it, the talon, the hover pack, and quasar. I died a lot less using it than the cookout even if it was mostly useless during the defense mission.
How do I git gud at this game?
>>533736819You play with me
>>533737540>stim in the ass>side pouch got a stim>grenade got a stim>one in the neckperfect acupuncture
>Turn off smear tech "optimization"
>Game looks better and feels like it even runs better
How
>you get killed and reinforced
>your reinforcement looks like this
What do?
>>533738734neck yourself furfaggot
>>533738734Team kill until a kemono babe shows up instead
>>533738734Hellbomb armed - clear the area!
*stun*
*stun*
*stun*
*stun*
>>533738613What settings did it for you?
>>533738734>What do?The same thing I do when I respawn as a black guy in Viper Commandos armor: Play extra dangerously which somehow ironically makes me live longer. Interpret that however you want I don't give a fuck.
>>533738734I'm also a furfag but anyone with a skin like this, no matter the game, is 100% guaranteed to be a complete insufferable faggot
>>533739075I just turned off the smeartech from "Ultra Quality" to "Native"
>>533739075NTA but I just threw every setting down to low except textures and particle effects and rendered the game supersampled on my 1080p monitor. I started slowly bumping up settings only when I actually noticed them bothering me.
>>533739313>>533739557I'd been wondering for awhile now if the upscaling was actually worth putting on, isn't it like FSR1 or some ancient shitty method
I really wish they'd just sit down and spend like a handful of patch cycles trying to fix the technical aspects of this game
It's amazing how ass everything in the placebo group warbond is. Except for the warp pack.
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>>533739118>Interpret that however you want Cole train runs on whole grain, simple as.
>>533740974"Delta Squad is in your house, bitch!"
>>533740974>>533741171reminder that the xbox launch of helldivers coincides with the launch of gears of war reloaded and there will be a gears themed warbond/superstore items and not halo. Halo bros have been warned to save themselves from disappointment.
>>533741437>dev image was 3 warbonds aheadHalo, Gears and another free warbond CONFIRMED. Hopebros... we're going to be eating good soon
>>533740957> Except for the warp pack.bro did you forget the variable is in the same warbond?
>>533741681The variable is mid at best.
>>533741437>a peak physique reskin and maybe a medium siege readynot a bad deal
>>533741960>medium siege ready will be crossover sloppakind of a bad deal
I was doing a mission on Phavt Bay & the entire ground reshaped itself like something moved under it. Has anyone else noticed this?
>>533742036don't act like you'd wear it for the look, only the heavy siege ready guys are honest
>>533742296yeah anon it's called the tremors
>>533742321that's my point, you'd see that armor set constantly
>>533741437They'd be so retarded to not do anything with ODSTs but this is Sweden we're talking about and being retarded is basically their default.
>>533734136ggz tards
https://files.catbox.moe/mbb1wk.mp4
>>533743746hows your mech
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243988602267/76561199586955078
bots
Fucked up how the goal wasn't samples on planets with gloom strain considering the planets we have to defend aren't in the fucking bing chiling sector.
>>533744576Joel needed to stretch out the MO
>>533744576Joel is a retard this is expected.
When the Turing defense fails Joel will absolutely set the regen rate to a retarded amount so there will be no chance of retaking it before the MO ends. Claorell 2.0.
Shams Jorjani and Pilesteadt just made you their TOP GUY in charge of making the galactic war more engaging. What do?
>>533746559I dunno I make it so theres like bonuses for fighting on the right fronts n shit, and I let players leap frog attacks to blitz planets one after the other in a day. Then have like some event happen after it like the faction temporarilly gets crippled or something I unno. Then just keep doing slugging matches. Maybe do like temp rewards like free x strategem for a day if you complete this Mini MO and keep repeating that.
>>533732158>CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG
>>533743452Anything smart or that makes sense just assume they'll do the opposite.
>>533742398Wasn't a normal tremor. No slow status. & the ground moved kinda like when you use strats & crater the ground etc.
wow jet pack kinda sucks now after using warp pack so much
when I wake up tomorrow I expect SC farming lobbies and free robutt sex
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>>533744492steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243991810480/76561199108851031
d10 whatev
>>533748861meant to say failed lobby in response, im retarded
>>533744492
>>533748092Freedom isn't free, and neither is robutt sex.
>>533748241Yeah there was a monument/remains of a centipede bug near the pelican too.
Why are city bugs so piss easy?
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>>5337488612/4 still, join to support nigga power or smthn
>>533744492>steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243988602267/765611995869550783/4 D10 Bots
>>533749945Bugs are retarded and on city map they end up doing tongs lines trying to follow you and bite titans get stuck in building.
The only way I die to bugs on open maps is if some random cunt sneaks up on from god knows where, city maps removable that complete.
There also an option of just going into alleyway where bugs just lose you instantly and can't jump into your face
>>533743452>Microsoft>Swedeswe're going to see profound levels of retardation not seen by any mortal
There will not be a Gears warbond
There will not be a Halo warbond
EoS soon
>ping for lobbies
>only 2 show up, both shit-ass bricks missions
>have to wait 45 seconds to view other lobbies or quickplay into probably a bricks mission
we had server browsers in the 1990s
the technology is moving backwards
>>533750613Just make your own and call in SOS, that's what me and my buddy do, they are perfect but more than fine
>Initiating FTL jump to the MOG system
>>533749945Redditors and /hdg/ would review bomb the game and start sending out death threats again. AH is very cautious with any new content and makes sure to pre nerf all new enemy content.
I love Liberty, I love Super Earth. I love Humanity, I love you all. We'll win again boys, one day, I just know it
>Bug bricks.
I'd rather kill Arkveld for the nth time, thanks.
We should get a guard dog that doesn't come with a weapon but can pick up primaries and support weapons off the ground
WHY ARE THE STUPID BUGS ON TURING NOT JOBBING LIKE USUAL
>>533679997actually that is how it works (in russia)
>>533684337Super Earth tech is superior than automaton and aliens
>>533667654My favorite shit is pulling the saber out on the bombardment niggers and going to town sweeping their legs.
Headshotting them is really satisfying too. I love whipping out the senator and doming those guys.
>>533755364then my urethra is rifled and my dick is an assault weapon
>>533679516Breaker
Talon
Frags
Siege armor
Supply pack, Commando
I'd be sad I didn't have any AP3 secondary. Like holy shit the base pistols suck in retrospect. When are they making peacemaker AP3?
>>533755669does the pee stream swirl out that's kimda cool ngl
>Bugs overtake Turing, causing another outbreak of pRedditor strain bugs.
It would be the funniest shit if Joel did it again.
>>533755669My dick is for assault too
>>533755806nta but my pee actually does swirl out
>>533754041>Can use your support weapon, and prevents you from picking up a support weaponThat'd be pretty cool honestly. But then it's just be like an inverse guard dog.
>>533755861Honestly spore bugs have been more deadly than predator strain. It's kinda weird getting two shot by warriors, and watching them shrug off shots that would have normally one tapped them
>>533752243Bots are fine though. City bugs are just a joke.
>>533756001aw hell nah bro has the semi auto slosher in his boxers
>dude alpha warriors are super deadly they summon like 20 dudes and swarm you if you're playing host
I thought that was just their normal behavior
D10 doesnt feel that challenging anymore. Isnt it supposed to be a very hard difficulty because even playing with randoms online makes it easy.
Helldivers 1 difficulties were hard as fuck compared why dont they just add 2 more difficulty levels?
>rocket trooper actually lands a direct hit on me instead of missing (once in a lifetime occurrence) because I walked directly into him while blinded by a blizzard
>only does 1/4th of my health with padded medium, if even that
lmao
>>5337488613/4 again, join and you might have a chance to pick next faction
>>533757897Solo or duos is where it's at these days
>>533758178Yeah but i want it as a challenging TEAM game
>>533757897Oh, you baaaad.
>Had to include the ships and Mothership to pad the list
Delete this faction.
>>533758642>9 units>only 1 of them is fun to fightgood job sweden
>>533758778The stingray of course
>>533758178Or maybe a mode where the game is challenging even with a full team?
>>533758642>squidshitters will make pathetic excuses this
>>533758642>Bots are like 7 variations of the basic trooper, that all die in one shot anyways, everything else just sorta stands around and shoots at you while you're behind cover save zerkers>Ayys have unique units that all behave differently and actually threaten to kill you at all times. Poor positioning and getting overwhelmed will fuck you upLike say what you will but fighting overseers is a lot more fun than fighting shield devs.
>>533759013>Automatons barely doing any better
>>533759184Heres the numbers during non-mos.
Its hardly better. They royally fucked up the illuminate.
>>533759210It's all so tiresome.
>90 fucking percent defence
>>533759393Oops didn't mean to quote
>trooper (6 variants)
>scout strider (2 variants)
>devastator (3 variants)
>hulk (4 variants)
>tank (3 variants)
>war strider
>gunship
>factory strider
8 units
>scout (3 variants)
>warrior(3 variants)
>hunter
>commander(2 variants)
>hive guard
>charger (3 variants)
>impaler
>spewer (2 variants)
>shrieker
>stalker
>titan
11 units
>voteless
>overseer (3 variants)
>watcher
>fleshmob
>harvester
>leviathan
>stingray
7 units
Watch arc nades get nerfed into the ground months later like the pyro nades
>>533759781except arc nades are not even good and pyro nades are still the best grenade overall in the game
>>533759656Pretty sure the Hive Guard is a Warrior variant, it just doesn't behave like on since it's programmed to be passive and hide behind its armor.
>>533759363They're rough at first and I think that's what turns people off from them so much
>>533759823Arc grenades are busted, I get 20 kills with one of them. Pyro nades got nerfed I think. They don't seem to do as much damage in groups now due to the host bug fix.
>>533759781>nerfed into the ground months later like the pyro nades????????
>>533759907>pretty sure X is the same as Y it's just behaves differently and requires different tactics or weapons to kill??
>>533759936>Still trying to push "illuminate are le hard"
>>533759979They fixed the damage stacking in lobbies. Feels a lot weaker now.
>>533759936>I get 20 kills with one of themyeah
because they suffer from the same issue the deescalator does, i.e counting every fatal body part as a separate kill
>>533760049Same reason why veld never got captured. People naturally shy away from harder content.
>>533760130They actually don't show up on the kill counter.
epoch is great on bugs
1-shotting impalers and 2-shotting titans is great
plus it also doubles as a shitty grenade launcher for bug breaches
it is literally everything i wanted the autocannon to be.
makes me realize how bad AC is. it really needs a buff.
>>533760130I think it's hilarious that the only people hyping up the placebo group warbond* are the people who don't notice something funky about getting ~20 kills when they toss a grenade into a group of ~7 enemies.
*warp pack doesn't count. It is the only thing good in that warbond.
>>533760097no, they fixed status effect application in lobbies. the damage is the same. what was getting multiplied was the strength of the effect which only controls how quickly they get set on fire, stunned, or gassed, which for incendiary nades hasn't changed because it has always been strong enough to set shit on fire instantly
if thigns aren't getting set on fire it's because you are too far away from the host. yes I am serious, status effect/DoT immunity is bugged and host proximity based until they fix it
>>533759936well i found arc nades to be dogshit on bots & squids
and on bugs it works much better than other nades except the fact that they cannot destroy bug holes. so it's dogshit and i'm going to kill my infant son
>>533760414Huh weird.
Just felt super weak last time I took em, maybe I'm just getting used to taking flame nades. (They feel super strong right now it's absurd)
Its so sad to see a squidsissy struggling in denial that nobody likes their boring faction.
>>533760049He's trolling but I guarantee some retard high up on whatever is left of the dev team thinks that.
Bot buildings:
>fabricator
>bulk fabricator
>supply base
>gunship facility
>AA battery
>artillery battery
>stratagem jammer
>detector tower
>bio-processors
>air base
>orbital defense gun
>command bunker
Bug buildings:
>bug hole
>titan hole
>spore tower
>shrieker nest
>stalker lair
>hatchery
Squids:
>landed warpship
>brain disruptor
>monolith
>>533760781ur mom has a titan hole hehe
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Why no one like fighting squids
They comfy n fun
>>533760948because people don't like shooting their gun. simple as.
squids require to shoot your gun instead of running and throwing red gems behind you.
people really really don't like that and don't want to play if the game isnt about running and throwing red gems behind you.
>>533760948Because fleshmobs filtered reddit and hdg.
>>533760948objective variety
>>533760948because they filter solofags and you can't just run away from flying overseers
>>533760948bulletsponge faction
leviathans
no objective variety
>>533761131Its not so bad just throw green n run. It's basically same thing. Squids are fun when you get used to them.
>>533761338>>533761421That's fair honestly.
But most objectives are just an excuse to kill things while moving from point a to b.
And flesh mobs are rough, but have some satisfying counters. Just a bit glitchy inside buildings.
>>533760948>>533761438>entire roster solved by the starter machine gunPlay a real faction, homo.
>>533760615Sparkler grenades have always been a bit individually unreliable, but they're overall the best jack of all trades grenade. Incendiary/gas/arc grenades are better area denial, but a well placed pyro can still block a stairwell/alleyway or spawn camp a bug breach/bot drop. Thermites are more dependable anti-tank, but parking some sparklers on a heavy will get the job done. You get six of them, so the cost to toss them into spawners or other demo forces targets is very low.
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d10
>>533761654*5 fleshmobs block your MGs path*
>>533761889>having trouble with fleshmobsspotted the shitter
>>533761701That's fair that's fair.
Personally just like the frag nades. Feels so whimsical throwing them out and watching things turn into paste.
>>533760948This retard owes me sex
>>533762243Canon nopan...
>>533762520no, she wears them
she just makes them invisible so people can't peek at them
>>533760267So what you're saying is, the Epoch needs a nerf.
>>533761876starting 3/4 bots on a dead planet, feel free to join whenever
>>533759049>>533759656forgot the cannon turrets, the bunker turrets, the mortar cannons, the pyro troopers, the firebomber hulks, the conflag devas, the predator hunters, the predator stalkers...
>>533763860>more variants>stationary buildingsk
>>533759393What the fuck. Why is it that fucking high?