#1050 DETONATOR edition

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Yu-Gi-Oh! Master Duel is an online multiplayer videogame using the Master Rule Format.

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Selection Pack: Radiant Inferno (Tenpai featuring alt art Black Rose Dragon)
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Selection Pack: Detonate to the Top Speed (Ryzeal, Six Samurai, Meowls, A Bao A Qu)

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>not deadnamer edition
try again

>>533885231
the thread was on page 10 and it was yours for the taking, lazy faggot

>>533885105 (OP)
>rank 4
What were they thinking?

>>533885231
cringe name

>>533886915
Generic rank 4s are pretty bad these days.

>>533886915
because you can normal summon your dead-in-hand mulcharmies into ryzeal combo

it is almost time for ritual suicide...!

you faggots lied to me in the last thread Labrynth isnt fun and immersive at all i’ll just stick to sky strikers

>>533887183
I'll dead name you homo

>>533888515
what does immersive mean in this

>>533888305
!!!

>>533888515
>You use a bunch of a trap to destroy your enemy
How it's not immersive?

>>533889372
You forgot the part where Lovely Lab ohohoho's at the opponent's monster leaving the field dealing emotional damage by destroying another card, and all her servants help her to set up more traps.

>>533888515
sorry bro but the labtroons are always trying to recruit around here

>>533888515
>he actually got groomed by labtroons
kek

>>533889720
uh... yeah... NTA but that's what she does, she OOOOHOUHOUHOUHOUHOU with her servants, that's the lore

Mating Pressing Purrely...

do not

>>533893659
Keep Purrely Waiting...

of all the purrelys, i think plump could get it first. she's still petite, not like noir or happiness, but she's got a bit more meat on her bones than say purrely or lily. and she's got this expression, i mean yeah all the purrelys have sex eyes, but plump's got this look like i don't even know how to explain it. you just know it'd be the cleanest, best pleasure.

>>533894537
>she

LET ME IN

It's

>>533888521
Ironic, you calling anyone a homo.

LET ME IN
I WANT TO WASTE ALL MY GEMS AND BE SAD
AHHHHHHHHHHH

it say 2:30 now, they're delaying this pack lamao

2:30 in what time zone?

>extended maintenance by an hour
We really can never get enough disappointment from this dogshit company can we?

>it's not open yet

they added another hour to maintenance?

>>533897625
correct

>>533897530
it's 12:30 pacific and 3:30 eastern
2:30 is central
1:30 is mountain

ryzeal killed the game

deadnamer strikes again!

>>533897621
they seem based to me, the longer ryzeal doesn't exist in the best format, the better
we just got another hour of mourning for a murdered game before the corpse reanimates and walks down mainstreet naked with its corpse cock bent and contorted to fuck itself in the ass
that's master duel post-ryzeal

you niggers hated on maliss and the ONLY reason this thread might not be full of "HOLY FUCKING SHIT WORST META EVER FUUUUUCK THIS FUCKING BULLSHIT DECK" posts because of Ryzeal within 12-16 hours, will be out of the pure cope from and/or the level of absolute gay downplaying denial that Ryzeal niggers are capable of

ryzeal-maliss format was fun in the tcg

>>533897530
>>533897625
it's always 3 hours and half, ryzeal somehow needs 4 and half, probably backpedaled on cross, plug in and eclipse being SR

>Maliss nigger still seething because xe forgot to dilate.

once again i want to share with you all that i masturbate to nemleria a lot, i've done it exactly 29 times in fact, and i'll do it again right now because i need to kill time before i can deadname

>>533898546
We know Bagooska.

I bought the MAlice bundle then crafted the entire rest of the deck including several generic extra deck I didn't have. I have like 90 UR right now as a result. I *still* haven't played a single real game with it and don't know how to play Maliss. I didn't want to try and make sense of tipsy topsy turvy comboslop I just wanted to play soulful control decks. I fucked myself for this meta, right? I don't really care, but I definitely fucked myself not learning Maliss in and out before Ryzeal. Unless you're just better off not having notions of Maliss from a pre-Ryzeal world.

Why is this shit still in maintenence ugh

>>533885105 (OP)
billion dollar company btw

>>533898546
dude that's a child

>>533898739
they extend maintenance literally every time. at this point i don't know why they don't just say maintenance will be 5 hours each time. no one's gonna whine if it ends earlier.

sex with Sky Striker Aces

ITS UP

^kys

>>533898614
>learn Maliss
Just click on the yellow buttons over and over and if your opp try to target one of your Maliss card use picrel's quick effect. Accesscode + Crypter for OTK. simple as. What works against ryzeal doesn't work against Maliss and vice versa. If most people end up putting counters against Ryzeal in their deck you might steal some wins. It really depends on the shuffler and how good you are like 99% of the decks.

>>533898614
There are a lot of guides available online. Malice is on the harder side due to the fact your end board variance is pretty big. A lot of people will burn through their interactions as well and that completely kills your grind game. It’s similar to Branded in that aspect or even Snake Eyes where one mistake and you’re losing 3-4 interactions. Take your time with it, try it out in rooms or against friends.

ryzeal detonated the maintenance

Actually in

surging

>>533901316
negated on resolution

>coin skins now
what the fuck is wrong with konami? no one wants this shit just release more mates (actual ones not fucking inanimate objects)

white forest secret pack
no eclipse twins
JURRAC

>>533901724
how many det and duo is worth keeping? x1? x2 of each?

>>533901823
2 in case you’re facing Kashtira. Jobbing to one Unicorn would suck.

>no eclipse twins

>>533901724
>no eclipse twins
that like, cuts detonators power in half right? because of no more free revive?

>duo drive, detonator, sword, ice, AND ext
jesus fucking christ

>nothing but expensive XYZ and Link decks
>"Hey guys next even is Synchro!"
Classic Konami

>>533902023
what about six samurai

>>533902023
They gave back the secret packs for Tenpai and White Forest just for that. Now get to spending gaijin.

Rank 4 chads always win

>>533901724
>Jurrac is here right now
NO
I WAS GONNA SAVE FOR THAT
>only one UR
oh okay nevermind that's okay

>>533901724
these fillers are so fucking worthless I don't even wanna pull in case i get them.

6k so far, one no-UR pull. How lovely.

LET ME IN REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>533901724
>all the new support is only one ur since they made ryzeal take up half the slots

>>533902324
>pulling on the first day
>he doesn't know

>>533901724
didn't Fabled new support actually end up kinda okay? I remember that getting some attention when it came out

man i really don't understand people who are into gambling
you're just paying for a chance to get what you paid for

>White Forest with Millenium Eyes Restrict
If only I didn’t have a full White Forest deck already…

i'm not able to get in is there no bundle or anything?

>>533902508
nope

>>533902564
wow those gooners really didn't give a remote shit about ryzeal did they?

>no abyss dweller
>no scythe
>pre-hit ext
>no eclipse twin
>but meowl on the same pack
this feels like a monkey paw

How viable would an Exodia or a Blue eyed white dragon deck be nowadays?
I never really played Yugioh outside of school real quick but I only know it’s powercreeped and cards have tons of text now.

huh

>A Bao a CUTE got an animation
This is the only good thing from this pack.

>>533902661
I will wait to see the results of the tournament later. I'm not pulling for this shit

>>533902712
blue eyes is meta right now. exodia is okay but you don't actually win by drawing the pieces anymore.

>>533902712
blue-eyes was tier 1 with maliss last month so it's prolly still gonna stay at least at tier 2 with ryzeal coming in
exodia got a "fusion" that they turbo into which works decently well, but the support mostly splashed as engine in other deck

>>533902712
Blues eyes was the best deck a couple months ago, now its like 4/5th best deck or some shit
Exodia got a lot better also when blue eyes did a couple months ago also, and people get master 1/rating duels with it still

>>533902719
actually worthless

>>533902801
>>533902869
Huh, neat.
Alright thanks.

post your pulls

Best deck to use A Bao A Qu in?

>>533902981
fiendsmith

>>533902981
things that play fiendsmith
maliss
evil twin
fiend pile decks (yubel unchained)

>>533902981
Maliss

>>533902981
maliss once apo gets banned

>>533902719
unlocking more card bookmarks
you can spend gems are more now too
>>533902938
I need more bookmarks

>gordian slicer
did tenpai just get a boost?

>>533903102
Maliss support!

>>533903213
it's banish face down

>>533903102
it's nemleria support

Core acquired.

>>533903102
>target
>can still responded to
I'm not aware of the exact ruling, but I'm guessing it at least use the kind of wording that will still bounce the targets even if some of them is not on the field anymore, right?
Free double bounce is pretty neat, I guess

>>533903102
it's a nemleria card

So what are the new lines for Evil Twins using ABAQ?

Now I feel like experimenting with A Bao in Labyrinth, with some fiendsmith. I feel like there’s something in there to be done for a good control mix.

>got diabel from the new pack
is my luck good now should i be pulling

hmm, the only thing I kinda want from ryzeal pack are bao, meowl, and maybe a couple jurrac astero
meanwhile, i kinda want the whole white forest stuff and won't even mind pulling the relinquished stuff because i can use them as uka target
but i don't have diabellstar playset so i won't be able to play them decently

i guess i'm gonna wait for the synchro cup and see if i can actually reach max level with my shitty dogmatika eldlich deck

why yes, I DID instantly buy the A-Cutie icon and wallpaper

>the ( ! ) notification on new solo gate disappears
i guess less clutter but i kinda used it to filter which gate i still have gems on at a glance

cheeky brat!
what are the ryzeal ratios, i got great pulls so i might just craft what im missing instead of pulling some more

this was my 4k gems

>spend 1k on Rzyeal pack
>INSTANTLY get Abao
>and Duodrive
I have 5500, I'm now debating spending more... I don't even know how Ryzeal works or particularly want it
I'd rather save for the Lab alt art

I did like, 20 round around the dice board event to get just a single copy of this shit and now they decided to give it to me for free
Thanks Konami

is 4k gems enough to pull the white forest core at least

>>533904095
2 ext
3 ice
3 sword
2 duo drive
2 detonator

So long, old friend. You helped me kill almost every single translaments subhuman i faced back when the archetype was just being introduced to the game and oviraptor was getting unlimited, now i'll negate their summons and blow them up (thrice) with the funny dinosaurs in your honor.

will they make a secret pack just for the magistus or something?

>>533904345
Depends on luck. Sometimes you’ll spend 10000 and still miss shit.
Don’t forget you’ll need the Diabellestar package as well and eventually Azamina.

>>533904345
its a good pack, but its a still a secret pack, so half of it is basically just dust

Brothers, is this white forest secret pack the one that should have released in september ? Does it contain all cards needed to build a deck like paper format ?

>>533904451
presumably yeah and they'll put support in it?
is VERRE'S SPELL going to be a fucking new UR added to the pack maybe?

>Quickplay Spell
>Activate 1 of these effects (but you can only use each effect of "Verre Magic - Lacrima of Light" once per turn).
>● If you control a "Magistus" or "Witchcrafter" monster: Send 1 Spellcaster monster or 1 Spell from your Deck to the GY.
>● When your opponent activates a card or effect: Special Summon 1 "Magistus" or "Witchcrafter" monster from your hand or Deck.

>>533904729
it's the cards that released last September without azamina. the new cards that paper has aren't in yet

My 14K pull. Very good haul. Only need to craft 3 Ryzeal cards. Got a royal Sword Ryzeal too.

I just don't understand how a potential pop 3 and a monster negate is apparently so overwhelming.

>>533905057
They can make more than 1 rank 4 monster.
There are a lot of good rank 4 monsters.

>>533904828
I'm looking right now, this secret pack is missing the new form of diabellstar (vengeance) and Diabellze the White Witch. Poplar of the White Forest is supposed to come in a long time since it came out earlier this year.

is that correct ? I should still pull for this secret pack I guess ?

>>533904465
>1 elzette azamina
>1 diabell + 1 wanted + 1 deception (minimum)
>hallowed + ilia silvia (already got it)
shit, that's a bit too much
and looking up a bit, i guess i need at least 6 URs from the pack (3 silvy, 1 astellar, 1 tales, 1 queen) so prolly need around 6k gems
i might be able to hold up until middle of the month to get 6k gems, but hard crafting 4 URs a bit too much

>>533905274
>>533904828
Oh its also lacking the field spell. So 4 cards ?

>>533905057
I'm gonna play some ryzeal primite harpie slop and be real annoying

>>533905349
nigger I hard crafted 13 URs the day Maliss came out, you don't love the white forest girls???

>>533905274
no don't pull. the pack will get updated when the support comes

>>533905443
where's your thrust to search feather storm

>>533905508
see, that's the problem
i already used up my dust to craft maliss

>>533905547
good call anon ty

>>533904572
wait you mean this white forest pack will never go away ? And as anon said>>533905516 its going to be updated ? Newfag here, dont know how this shit works

Why does it say its leaving in 36 days then ?

>>533905682
when that 36 days is over, to see the pack again you'll have to craft a SR/UR from it and then spend gems

>>533905682
after 36 days it will just stop being always visible but you can always unlock it and pull from it by crafting an SR from it. when new support comes for an archetype the secret pack usually gets updated with the new cards

>>533905682
Secret Packs never go away. You gain access to them for 24 hours to pull from within that 24 hours with your gems by either pulling a SR or UR from that Secret Pack in another booster by chance, or by crafting a SR specifically to gain access to pull.

When a new secret pack for an archetype is added, they put it in the game fully accessible without the need to pull or craft a card exclusive to it for a period of time, usually like a month.

Since it seems you don't know about this mechanic, here's a somewhat outdated (from December) guide to optimal super rares to craft for free pulls (which is potential free UR dust): https://www.masterduelmeta.com/articles/guides/2024/sr-crafting-guide

i need 4 UR crafts
about how many gems does that translate to assuming i dont pull any of them

any chance they make another new secret pack for azamina instead and put the new diabell there?

>>533904383
thanks anon

>>533905952
6k gems, more or less depends on luck

>>533905682
>>533905893
also, I assume you already took your free pull from the white forest pack
in a little over 24 hours from now (to be sure) if you craft an SR from it, you'll get ANOTHER free pull, because you can still get free pulls off packs when you craft, like always, even though they give you the free one.

like I said wait over 24 hours from when you opened it, it needs to generated over 24 hours since you received exclusives from the pack so it's no longer "generated"

>>533905952
Once again depends on your luck. If you drop let’s say 3 UR in a 10 pull, that’s one craft. Sometimes you’ll get 7 UR sometimes 0. Just keep the dust until you can craft everything.

>>533906138
Nah, you can immediately craft an SR from a fresh pack and get the free pull. I've been doing it every month as new secret packs come out, so I don't forget to get my second free pull after they expire.

>only 7k
Not bad, not bad at all. Now I got both Ryzeal and MALICE.

>>533906376
fuck you and fuck your luck

>>533906138
this anon is right >>533906329
I just crafted a elzette SR and got my extra free pull

>>533906138
>>533906465
oh what the fuck I SWEAR for the longest time that was the case
but yeah I just tried it too after already pulling a Rciela from the free pack and I got another free pull right away
thanks

>>533905770
>>533905832
>>533905893
>>533906138
thank you brothers, i'll check that guide

>>533906329
yeah i can confirm, i got the free pull then just crafted Rciela after reading your post, got picrel. Quite lucky. I dont know if I should wait for the updated secret pack or just go for it. It does looks like i need azamina cards too ? Looks fucking expensive.

>>533906435
Women like winners Halligan

>>533906376
kys

>no fucking idea what Ryzeal even does beyond RANK 4 and DETONAAAATE
>watch Dkayed's video
>2 mins in "INTO [INFERNAL FLAME] BANSHEE"
I had a fucking banshee like 8 months ago which I dismantled
>can't even pull it
I'm not fucking crafting this thing
this singlehandedly just decided whether I spend gems on ryzeal

>>533906639
secret packs are always kinda rough to pull from, just because half your pack is not what you want and you could get unlucky with your SRs/URs ending up on the left side a bunch, instead of the right side

>>533905957
probably high for azamina cards. azamina will have 4 URs by the end. it can be slopped up with a bunch of unrelated cards. the white forest cards should be in the one that just dropped

>>533906749
>dtard fan dismantles good cards
adds up.

>>533905952
on average, you gonna get 2.2 URs per 1k gems
so you need 6k gems to get 120 URs dust

>>533906749
>this singlehandedly just decided whether I spend gems on ryzeal
I mean, besides the expensive core, seemingly all the good rank 4s are URs too, plus the seventh stuff.

>>533906767
5 URs actually.

>>533906749
>xhe dismantled a generic UR searcher
>that's rank 4, the easiest rank to make
Ngmi

>>533906749
>dismantling the fiendslop bridge into snake-eyes
you dun goofed mate

>>533906749
>>533907005
HIS tournaments showed denegerate Banshee comboes could be and the FOOL dismantled her

how many URs do you need to make a good RDA deck, again?
i just need something that can get me to dlv max without breaking my bank, and i already got the royal supernova and chaos angel
so other than stuff from SD, i just need tyrant red, and dis pater, right? maybe magnamhut + 1-3 lubellion?
is this card mandatory?

>>533907210
>>533907005
>>533906931
>>533906871
>>533906825
I pulled anyway cause fuck it.

5k gems.

>>533907210
>HIS
>FOOL
fuck off already, your eceleb lost his leaks and isn't worth shit beyond paying others to make one good website.

>>533907738
oh, I got a Royal rare Misc, too.

>>533907738
thats good pulls for 5k

>>533907551
You get most of the core from the structure deck. You don't need stone sweeper since crimson gaia and resonator call searches your starter but you can probably run it at 1-2. The deck is very fragile though and will be even moreso when people put imperm back in their decks for Ryzeal

>>533907802
>Xhe's shits xer panties at the mention HIM
Imagine being so miserable

>>533907738
Dismantle the Meows and you're 2/3 of the way back to recrafting Banshee

>subhumans are now running dimension barrier
will branded ever actually be playable again

>>533907906
i want to use it for the upcoming synchro cup
dunno if people will even pack imperm with all the tenpai and wf possibly running around

15k gems, garbage pulls.
Is Gordian Slicer used in anything?

>>533907738
>>533908128
the 2 extra a bao and 1 extra ext is enough to be back banshee

>>533908174
gordian is good, but banishing face down is no fun allowed

god these duel lives are painful to watch. ryzeal hasn't lost ONCE. it doesn't help that the opponents are retarded, ashing/imperming the first thing they see instead of waiting for duo drive. but still, it's fucking infuriating to watch

>>533908140
Play Branded Synchro so you don’t die to D barrier on the spot. Quem and Cartesia can do your fusion plays on their turn and so on.

>>533908140
>HARD tier 0 Link/XYZ meta
Dimension Barrier, Daruma Cannon and SIMUL ARCHFIENDS all day long

>>533908378
>Helmet deck that had a 70% play rate and completely warped the meta
The fuck did you expect lmao. Ryzeal was always the cancer. Only Josh watchers troons thought Malice was.

>>533908174
It's worse than Droplet especially since droplet can set up the gy, but it's preferable to running dedicated spell trap removal if the meta is heavy on backrow. It might become good if people start turboing anti gy

>>533908140
with bagooska and imension barrier this meta is much much worse for branded

>>533908490
I need to try rollback/black goat/overroot, but I only have the rollbacks right now

do bystials do anything against ryzeal

>>533909103
if the ryzeal player is smart, you can play around bystials by always attaching the light ryzeal

>>533909010
>people STILL run punishment in Labrynth in 2025
Why can’t you just let go of that fucking card? It’s not even that good in Lab to begin with.

random dogshit, go!!!!!!!
i dont have charmies.

>>533909229
It wasn't good when SEC was good, but now SEC is bad and the dogmat is back

Maliss has 13 archetypal UR card, while Ryzeal has 10.
So if you either saved gems or are a new player, building Ryzeal instead of Maliss is obviously the cheaper choice.
Its also the better choice when you consider TCG/OCG tournament tops compared to Maliss.
But beware of its shelf life.
By that I mean after you build it you, shouldn't spend your monthly gems building any random shit deck and instead wait for the next meta defining shit or save for their custom CAC support Mitsurugi.
Also, enjoy it while you can because at some point its going to get raped just like in the OCG.

>>533909890
Ext will be kept at 2 to help out ritual decks. Trust the plan

Any recommendations on xyz/synchro/ritual decks? I need a well 3rd deck, more so the two I use are either a fusion with links, or a pure link deck. And would need one of the three i mentioned for a daily, was planning on ryzeal but decided to ditch that idea due to, really, not being interested as much as I thiught I would be. Doesn't have to be "top tier" just something fun/enjoyable to play.

>>533909230
>pot
this shit is actually bricky? kek

>>533910514
well if its not going to be ryzeal, get goblins to counter the new ryzeal stuff
they still have a secret pack on the store too

>>533910583
pretty sure this anon is packing pot because he doesn't have enough deck fillers or hand traps. No big deal though, pots are decent deck fillers.

Ryzeal seems like it'd be compatible with a small bystials engine. Ext can give fuel for Lubellion setting up regained + lost.

Hey look at that, Maliss's official play rate in the update has to dropped exactly to what untapped was reporting 2 weeks ago.

So, this pretty much confirms untapped's accuracy as 100% valid.

For reference, Maliss is currently sitting at 25% population now. So it feels even lower, and that's before even factoring in Ryzeal. As that's not being reported on yet on untapped.

>>533911001
Regained + beast*

>Lancea
>Lancea
>Lancea
I thought you guys said people would drop this card once Ryzeal came out.

You lied.

>>533909890
Ryzeal is a poor investment. 2 extra UR for a deck that will continue to get support and will remain meta relevant for a very long time is an extremely worthwhile investment.

HEY RYZEAL...
SORRY
THAT'S A NICE DECK AND ALL BUT...
YOU'VE BEEN GUH-NOMED

>>533910767
Thanks for the suggestion! I have faced against them and wondered "how the hell are they stealing my shit so easily." Shoukd be fun

ok but why should i bother building maliss/ ryzael as a meremail player?

guys... I'm so fucking far behind I still need to learn how to do the fiendsmith combo for fiendsmith live twin combo

and now A-Cute is involved!

>>533908721
>>533908378
It's gonna get even worse once we get Mitsurugi next month. Ryzeal Mitsurugi is an actual Tier 0 deck.

>>533911245
maliss gets ignister and ryzeal gets mitsu
there's not a big difference

and you can easily look up which deck has the most tops in the tcg/ocg

I'm just glad all the Maliss Tier 0 doom posting from the Josh brigade will die down now that Ryzeal here, and my waifu petdeck can be left alone.

Why did they fuck up the order of my bookmarks, and how do I change it back?

>Speedroid got away with 1 UR
holy shit I was expecting Over Synchro Dragon and Clackers as URs at least

>>533911613
I dunno gaijin but I think you need to spend gems on more bookmark space

>>533911551
>maliss gets ignister and ryzeal gets mitsu
>there's not a big difference
There's a huge difference actually.

Ignister only gives Maliss more flexible play options.

Whereas Mitsu gives Ryzeal a power ceiling so high it effectively becomes an FTK deck that's really hard to stop.

>OCG
Doesn't have Mitsu yet, and Ryzeal was beating Ignister Maliss still over there. It's obvious which of the two gets the bigger upgrade.

>>533911598
Sorry. Still gonna shotgun lancea during the draw phase

>>533911729
(((Josh))) watchers and most TCG dogs will never admit Ryzeal was cancer. It’s a pointless fight anon.
Also I still prefer pure Mitsurugi over the Ryzeal variants.

>>533911847
That's fine. I'm just going to automatically scoop. Saves us both the time, and you're helping make sure Lancea gets hit on the Banlist. So thank you, actually.

>>533911950
>helping make sure Lancea gets hit on the Banlist
I knew Maliss players were delusional but holy shit

>>533912148
83% play rate baybee.

>>533912350
Cool now do Ash Blossom

>>533912429
Ash Blossom doesn't force a turn skip on every Banish deck in the game.

>>533912634
git gud

>>533912634
You say banish deck, but a lot more decks use banishing either as a form of removal or extension. But people love to forget about that and hyper focus on malice like the fat Jew Josh told them to.

>>533912739
I'm not the one relying on a crutch floodgate to steal easy wins.

>>533912810
No you're the one who's spent the last month playing the strongest deck in the game and complaining that you can't climb kek

>>533912797
I don't forget about that. It's part of my argument. But for most of these pea brains "those don't count" because "no one played Lancea before (Josh told us to) uhh.... I mean Maliss."

>>533912880
>strongest deck
No, I was playing Maliss, not Blue-Eyes
>complaining that you can't climb
When did I say that?
I'm just voicing my distaste at being forced to lose 22% of every game I play because everyone is still running Lancea.

>>533912984
Why do you bother answering to fucking bait? Malice is the only high tier deck that dies to 1 card. You can droll Ryzeal and they still end on a little something. Malice just straight up cannot do anything if lancea hits.

oh shit they added gordian slicer? cunny gods WON finally

>sure I'll try the new speedroids
>first get maliss
>get ftked
Kill all downplayers

>>533913257
Because I want something to laugh at when I'm proven right when Lancea gets limited.

>>533913384
It being limited would be even more sacky and people will play Chaos Hunter at 3 instead. It needs a straight up ban, like Scythe. Artifacts in general were a mistake.

>>533913357
>>get ftked
???

>>533913486
Chaos Hunter is fine cause it can be played around.

Lancea at 1 would be fine as statistically, you'd see it much less. Right now at 3, you have a guaranteed 22% loss ratio if everyone plays Lancea (which they are).

This is the probability that your opponent opens Lancea and you don't have CBTG/Crossout.

22%

If Lanceas was limited to one, a lot less people would run it for one, and now the odds of your opponent opening Lancea and you not having a way to negate it is like 2%

Being forced to autolose 2% of games to a sacks floodgate is fine. Especially since the real number would be much lower than 2% as simply limiting it would discouraging a lot of people from running it.

>droll meta again
oh god

>>533913486
>comparing Lancea to fucking Scythe
(You) mentally ill clown

>>533913748
Your math makes sense but that 2% will cause nuclear hate and you know it. It’s just like people opening their one off in 60, no matter what it’s gonna annoy you.
But I suppose it’s the best middle ground? I just want all floodgates banned.
>>533913780
Have fun! Ryzeal is sooooo fun and good! I know because the TCG dogs said so!

>>533913927
>turn ending floodgate and turn ending floodgate
There is not a single difference and you should kill yourself. Doesn’t matter how it’s played/setup, the end goal is skipping your opponent turn.

I want to build a Jinzo deck, but there is still enough place for other archetypes. should I just add fiendsmith, or something else?

>>533914687
Jinzo is Machine.

>>533908490
I saw a labtroon run this card I guess just to fuck with Ryzeal i guess

>>533914127
>preventing banishment = preventing to use the ED
Which card is banned in all format and which card is Lancea?
Nib can end turns too, doesn't mean that it's a gamebreaking card. Stop crying because you lost to a video game bitch.

>>533915119
Nib isn't a floodgate.

That's a very stupid comparison.

>>533908378
anon, those pack replays ONLY show the games where the cards in the pack win

>>533914127
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU NEED TO LET ME COMBO FOR 45 MINUTES REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>533915098
I'm a Labchad and already have 3 of these crafted as Glossy but I can't remember why. Time to slot it in again.

Five K gems. I think I'll give it one more go before I start crafting shit, genuinely can't complain with these.

>publicly admitting to being a labtroon

>>533915098
Reminds me I wanna run Gnomaterial to see how it plays. I'm gonna guess not well, and is still shit, but I have 2 copies from way back when I had its pack, may as well give it a go.

>Activate Book of Eclipse
>Win
Is this your best deck?

>>533915207
>ackhually quick effect board wipe is not a floodgate so it's not the same
droll can end turns too, doesn't mean that it's a gamebreaking card. Stop crying because you lost to a video game bitch.

>>533915596
>Go first
>Win
Wow, cool!
Now do that when they go first.

>>533915650
>>ackhually quick effect board wipe is not a floodgate so it's not the same
Correct, it's not a floodgate, glad you're catching on.
>droll can end turns too
Droll needs a condition to be activated. As does Nibiru.
Lancea does not. Like Shifter, it can be played for free at zero cost. And even better than Shifter, it can be played under any circumstances.

Shifter got put to 1 for these exact reasons. Clearly, Konami, unlike you, saw that as toxic.

>>533915871
Yea but Lancea is balanced because it only affects maybe 3 tiered/rogue decks. And floo, which deserves to get triple Lancea'd.

>>533916031
No. It affects literally every deck and card with the ability to Banish in the game. Which is a lot. In fact, it even has the added benefit of it being a counter to CBTG/Crossout, allowing your Ash/Maxx C/Fuwaloss to resolve.

>>533916194
Then why was nobody playing it before Maliss?

why is bagooska the worst card ever created

>>533916254
You dropped this, m'lord

>there are 4 cards in the entirety of yugioh that are even capable of stopping Maliss FTKing you
>Malissniggers want one of them banned
Kill yourselves

>>533916254
Because the mouthbreathers that play this game didn't have their e-celeb overlords tell them to.

Why did no one play Shifter before Tears despite it being a solid counter to literally everything in the game prior to that, captain retard?

>>533916254
Because no one was shilling it.
You need to understand that most of the playerbase are netdeckers who mindlessly do what their favorite eceleb tell them to do.

>>533916378
Maliss can't FTK you autistic nigger.

>>533916435
>>533916469
>cards arent allowed to have shifting power levels based on their effects
>maxx c is still legal
>AYYYYEEE SAVE ME TCG
thats what you sound like

>>533916435
>>533916469
So you were maindecking 3 Lancea before maliss format every game right anon?

Why does the meta say swordsoul is still viable? This shit loses to everything.

>>533916587
Floodgates are never good game design.

>>533916602
I STILL don't run Lancea because it's degenerate cancer that doesn't let anyone play the game.

>>533916542
Putting up 70 trillion interactions that no card can prevent is the same thing you autistic nigger.

What's the problem with a Synchro 10 water monster? Lancea isn't too bad, just imperm it and play until battle phase lmao

>>533916648
If you don't get Lancea'd, you can put up Protoss which is a good counter to Maliss/Ryzeal.

Provided you go first that is.

>>533916721
>I'm too good for evolving metas
>I wouldnt use Maxx C because it only got stronger over time and I play honest decks!
>loses to meta
Is this a maths problem or a reading comprehension issue, I wonder?

>>533916721
>Floodgates are never good game design.
Neither are decks that dodge every other handtrap in the game except for lingering floodgates
Ban Maliss and ban Lancea and the game becomes much better, agree?

>>533916757
You are shitflinging and you know it. I approve

>>533916587
You're not answering any of my points.

>>533916602
No because I only play my archetypes pure.
I don't play Maxx C either and I'm content with being in Platinum.
And you're still dodging the argument.

was pairadice legacy pack or something
can't dismantle my copy

>>533916726
If you hate playing multiplayer that much, you should stick to solo mode. There you can do your combo uninterrupted to your heart's content.

>>533916891
>Loses to meta
Now when did I say this?
You keep moving goalposts so much, I bet you don't even know what your point is anymore. Hell, I don't know what your point is, honestly.

It just seems like you're blindly defending toxic floodgates like Lancea in any way you can, because deep down you do realize it's bad game design, but getting free wins makes you happy, so you have to defend it.

Konami limited Shifter alongside dozens of other floodgates once they cropped up and became problematic for the meta, at 83% play rate, Lancea is next on the chopping block, and the fact that people aren't dropping the card with the release of Ryzeal further seals this fate. People have discovered how good Lancea is in Bo1 after having to use it. They're not going to drop it because sacking wins off of any banish strategy or negating CBTG is just that good.

If Maliss is meta, which it will be for the coming year, and even longer. People will run 3x Lances in MD.

Not only that, but there are several meta strategies that rely on banish on the horizon as well. Making Lancea a good staple.

still no rose dragon alt art and i pulled 6 rudy alone like what the actual fuck these faggots aren't even subtle about it anymore

>>533917081
You're points are moot because metas shift whenever there's a new release, especially meta relevant cards that are popular on paper beforehand. You just dont like Lancea because it can instawin against a toxic recycle deck with infinite link and draw power.
Proof: Lancea isnt and wont be hit

>>533917081
The only argument I made was that if Lancea was as broken as you made it out to be, outside of exactly the Maliss matchup, then it would have seen widespread play before Maliss format.

You then attempted to argue that maindecking Lancea WAS the correct play the whole time and the only reason people didn't do it is because ecelebs told them not to. Only to reveal that you also weren't playing it, despite the fact that you could have been world champion by now. So were you also hoodwinked by these ecelebs? Why weren't the ecelebs themselves playing it for that matter?

Or is the card just not that good after all, and is only seeing play now to stop a degenerate combo deck from instantly winning the game off of a coin flip win.

>>533916992
This is literally a skill issue. You can stop Maliss with regular hand traps if you know how to play the game, but you don't because you rely on turn skip floodgates like Lancea instead.

>>533917325
>getting free wins against a deck that by default gets free wins against most of its meta matchups even with mediocre starting hands is bad
You dont know whats good or bad for the game, not my problem. I activate Lancea, and chain Lancea to your called by, response?

What’s the deal with chinese people being level 50 and playing s tier decks in silver? I thought you couldn’t derank to this shit.

>>533917470
Go ahead and post the best handtrap targets against Maliss.
>this is the part where you say you don't want to spoonfeed me and run away

>>533917397
Maliss will remain in the meta for at least a year. That's a year of every banish archetype getting gatekept out of the ladder thanks to Lancea.
>and wont be hit
I'll take that bet.
You have to lick my asshole when you're wrong. Screencapping your post right now.

>>533917617
Okay, but just know I play the honest and completely fair petdeck Ghoti so you're only helping me in the long run by being right.
How's that sit, knowing I play a banish deck and dont mind Lancea being meta right now?

>>533917397
>>533917459
Nope, in case you didn't notice, I only jumped recently into the argument and I'm not the guy you were arguing with, I even suspect that you know that and will only focus on me because the other anon has better arguments.
But no, I hate Lancea because it fuck le from playing Sexosisters and I know anon is right because Lancea was released SEVEN years before Sexosisters and was still good enough to make the entire archetype irrelevant.
Why didn't people play it more?
Because as said above, retards only follow netdeckers.

>>533917325
>If you hate playing multiplayer that much, you should stick to solo mode. There you can do your combo uninterrupted to your heart's content.
The fucking irony when you're here complaining about being unable to play through (1) handtrap

>>533917597
Ghost Reaper
Belle

Time those well an they end their turn on less or nothing.

CBTG on Binder.

Destroying Backrow with Duster when you start your turn forcing an early GWC

Droll on their turn so they don't draw off of Cat/Binder.

Maxx C/Fuwa

There's tons of ways to stop them, you just want free wins.

>>533917617
Charge your fucking phone you god damn mongrel, holy shit. Why do fags never keep the golden ratio of 40%-80% power threshold?

>>533917895
>CBTG on Binder.
Not a handtrap, also doesn't do anything when the deck has two quick effect methods of reviving Binder. You'd need to open double Called By for this to work.
>Destroying Backrow with Duster when you start your turn forcing an early GWC
Not a handtrap and also doesn't affect the endboard at all.
>Droll on their turn so they don't draw off of Cat/Binder.
The deck combos through Droll and you know it

>Maxx C/Fuwa
So we're in agreement that only these lingering handtraps are capable of stopping an instant win and the deck is complete cancer? Great.

>>533917805
>How's that sit, knowing I play a banish deck and dont mind Lancea being meta right now?
Because you're used to losing. So this loser cuck mentality is expected of someone like you.


>>533917854
A handtrap that statistically forces you to lose 22% of your games.
>Draw the out hurr Durr
Yes retard, those are the odds of you NOT drawing the out.
66% Lancea isn't played.
11% it's played, but you have the only outs to it.
22% the time, it WILL resolve.

That's nearly 1/4 games you're automatically forced to not play the game at all and lose. And that's not even factoring in losing the coinflip, getting roached, bricking, etc...

>>533918217
If you're unable to climb with the best (now potentially 2nd best) deck in the game then it's not the fault of statistics forcing you to lose. You are unironically just shit at Yugioh.
Nobody else has this problem but you.

>>533917847
Anon, you aren't even replying to me anymore, I'm >>533917081

>>533917925
If you had eyes, you'd see that lightning bolt next to the battery symbol showing you it was charging.

>>533918080
>But they get to play out their turn
You asked for ways to beat the deck, not for ways to force a stop to their combo.

>So we're in agreement that only these lingering handtraps are capable of stopping an instant win and the deck is complete cancer? Great.
Love how you ignored Belle and Reaper.

>>533918367
>not for ways to force a stop to their combo.
I asked for good handtrap targets against Maliss. You agreed with me that Maxx C/Fuwa/Lancea are the only viable handtraps against this deck. Thank you.

>>533918326
>If you're unable to climb
When did I say this? Show me. Link to that post right now.

>>533918217
master 1 with ghoti is far and away a bigger skill check than malice losing to lancea

>>533918352
Both of the post you quoted are mine...

>>533918449
>You agreed with me that Maxx C/Fuwa/Lancea are the only viable handtraps against this deck.
Show me where I said that.

>>533918524
>That's nearly 1/4 games you're automatically forced to not play the game at all and lose. And that's not even factoring in losing the coinflip, getting roached, bricking, etc...
If you're still winning the majority of your games then what the fuck are you even complaining about? Do you honestly believe you deserve to win 100% of your games just because you picked the current Konami approved shill deck and that everyone else should just enjoy getting shit on?

>>533918561

>>533918668
You're really bad at math... And reading apparently.

No retard. Being FORCED to lose 1/4 of your games does NOT mean you win the remaining 3/4.

It means that you're starting with a handicap of ALWAYS losing 1/4 games because you literally can't do a single thing but pass turn at the very start of the game. One in every 4 games you play.

Maliss is in fact, NOT winning the majority of their games, with the official stats by Konami showing the deck has a sub 50% winrate. This is thanks to Lancea.

And the best part is, it doesn't affect only Maliss, but like 7+ plus decks, including 3 news ones, and one coming very soon.

If you don't see why this is toxic as fuck, then idk what else to say.

>>533918217
You only need to win 51% of your game to rank up.
Meaning that you can afford to lose 49% of your games.
And you're even playing a meta deck!
You're not that bad, right? Right ?

>>533919065
>Maliss is in fact, NOT winning the majority of their games, with the official stats by Konami showing the deck has a sub 50% winrate.
So you ARE saying you're unable to maintain a 50%+ winrate with the, at the time, best deck in the game?

>>533919125
>>533919113
Your argument has completely falling apart. You keep pivoting to subjective experiences because the objective mathematical data is impossible for you to argue against.

I'll accept your concession then.

See you again when Lancea gets hit. I hope both of you enjoy licking my asshole.

>>533919314
Hey man, just relax. Lancea isnt going anywhere. Source, konami banned Scythe to prehit Ryzeal but chose not to hit Lancea in spite of its recent spike

>>533919314
The objective mathematical data is that you're struggling to maintain a 50% winrate with a deck that other people have won tournaments with

>>533919113
Being forced to turn skip 1 in 4 games, on top of the other shit you have to deal with in this game isn't a pleasant experience at all, and that's reason enough to hit Lancea.

Blame all the people running the card. This wouldn't be a problem if it didn't have an 83% play rate because some fat YouTuber opened their fucking mouth.

>>533919469
>my dad works for konami, trust the plan, 2 more weeks!

>>533919434
>you're struggling to maintain a 50% winrate
When did I say that?
Show me where I said that.

>>533919559
>>533919065

Motherfuckers Maxx C is still legal at 2 right now. Why the fuck do you think a normally unsearchable blowout card like Lancea is going to get banned just so the supposed strongest deck in the game gets to rub its balls on every other deck besides Ryzeal?

>>533919647
Thank you, finally some real fucking opinion.

>>533919581
I don't see anywhere on that post where I'm voting my personal stats in the game. Care to point it out for me?

Because all I see is a statistical point being used to objectively disprove your claim that Maliss wins most of the games it plays. That's what the data from Konami says. If you don't like it, go complain to them. But facts don't care about your feelings.

>>533919647
Maxx C has like 20 outs.
Lancea has 3.

>>533919747
>”T-the data proves it!”
>Still hasn’t shown it

>>533919747
I ain't part of this but I mean, (((you))) are a part of the statistic, and you're losing at least 1/4 of the time according to (((you))). Not including roach, bricking, coinflip, etc. You do see how this is being construed against you, right?

>>533919747
So the data proves that Maliss is unable to get above a 50% winrate but you personally are the exception who wins all his games (except where lancea resolves) but you still want lancea banned even though it hasn't impacted your ability to win games because you think you deserve a 100% winrate instead of a 75%?

Am I getting all this right?

>>533916469
bullshit
I used to play duel links, and after lancea was added, every time a banish card or deck was meta everyone used it
and before that they used chaos hunter
anyone who said lancea wasn't great during those metas was relentlessly mocked by almost everyone for being retarded
lancea's strength is well known
and yet, when the banish decks are no longer meta lancea also disappears. do you know why?
it is because banishing is a mechanic that most decks either don't do at all or only a few cards in an archetype are affected by
it isn't worth running unless the current meta deck is hit hard by lancea
in a non-banish meta, the best lancea can do is stop called by or the occasional card that banishes for cost, which isn't enough to justify running it
your argument that lancea is some niche card nobody knew about until now is straight up blatantly false
nobody needed ecelebs to shill anything
stop being retarded

>still no Live Twin support
>Two Deck tier 0 meta
>people are happy about this

>>533919845
Maxx C stops almost every deck in the game. Lancea just stops decks that wa t to banish, of which Maliss is the sole reason 90% of people are running it. Maliss will suffer for the sins of its power the same way every deck suffers in general with Maxx C being legal.

>>533919314
I don't care about Lancea, I even hope it get banned because I like Malice.
I'm just saying that you're a bad player.

>>533919845
>ash blastem (is bricky drawing 2, or 3 because lmao algorithm
>funny finger (semi-limited)
>purge (hyper specific)
>droll (format dependent)
thats not a lot all things considered, and how they cant just be shoved into the same deck.
Lancea can be funny fingered, or crossed. It only makes you stop banishing, it doesnt say stop summoning. Just happens that Malice plays by banishing, incidental at best.

>>533919895
https://www.masterduelmeta.com/articles/news/july-26-2025/card-usage-update

Just check the fucking data in the game retard.

Anything with less than 50% winrate isn't tracked.

>>533919937
Yeah, but I don't see where I say I lose 50% of the games.

I think you need to distinguish between an objective truth and anecdotal evidence. I wasn't giving an anecdotal example, and idk why you keep trying to insist on one.

I mean, I know why you are, because it's easier to argue against, bit that's besides the point. It only proves you're grasping at straws.

>>533920076
>duel links
Clown game, not relevant.

>>533920009
Do you know what averages are? Did you know you don't need at 50% winrate to climb the ladder due to how the ladder is structured?

My argument has never been about MY personal experience "trying to climb" despite your best attempts at framing it that way.

My argument has always been about how toxic a floodgate that forces you to lose 22% of the time is on a best of 1 game.

>>533920235
Your entire point is anecdotal, anon. Statistically, people like Lancea, that's why its played. That's not subjective. It's only toxic against toxic decks, and ghoti apparently.

>>533920332
the second half was referring to MD
called by is not in duel links
and if everyone in the clown game for casuals knew about lancea, then there is no reason for real players to not know about it
again, stop being retarded

>>533920382
>My argument has always been about how toxic a floodgate that forces you to lose 22% of the time is on a best of 1 game.
This argument only works if you pretend that there's no scenario playing Maliss where your opponent is the one forced to lose a certain % of their games
And that percentage is far higher than 22%

>>533920616
Even the casuals knew that when the meta shifts, you adapt. You said so yourself, explaining the clown format.
Are you just yelling into the void right now?

>slots into Ryzeal Mitsurugi
>direct counter to Maliss' Apo
The alt art is not getting banned, retards

>>533920227
>Maxx C
3 Ash
3 Droll
2 CBTG
1 Crossout
2 Maxx C them back
3 Fuwaloss them back

That's 15 already, and I feel like I can dig for more.

>Lancea
2 CBTG
1 Crossout
And that's it. ONLY 3.

>Inb4 hurr hitting the back with Maxx C doesn't count.
Yes it does, because Maxx C affects EVERY deck so it self balances that way.

You get Lancea'd, you throw back a Lancea and it LITERALLY does nothing.

Not to mention, you can play a smaller combo and set up Backrow to defend yourself. Under Lancea, you LITERALLY can't do a single thing except pass turn. Maxx C at least offers other options. It's not actually a floodgate. It still LETS you play and decide how far you wanna go.

>>533920761
What if they only banned the craftable Apo?

>>533920713
What?

>>533920821
And then never re-ran the alt-art.

I would die laughing and call Konami based until the end of time.

>>533920771
>Maxx C affects every deck
Not Floo, idiot.

do new speedroids still run unicorn

>>533921037
The better question is: Why wouldn't they?

>>533921002
And you can stop Floor with a single Handtrap, which you can't do against every other deck in the meta currently running Lancea. In fact, the fact Floor could play around Maxx C so we'll is why it was punished so hard in MD.

>>533920771
>opponent turbos lancea in standby
>set 5 and pass
Labsissies we are eating GOOD this meta

>>533921107
>floor
>typo
argument dismantled, god damn you got fucking owned.

>coin option in deck accessories menu
>only option is Blue-Eyes Alternative White Dragon
huh
I guess we're getting new slopccesories to inflate bundle costs

>>533921156
post your deck

you running mischievous gnomes? simul archfiend? it stops both Maliss and Ryzeal doesn't it?

>>533921282
I'll pay 500 for a Lil-la and Ki-sikil coin. Obviously Lil-la would be tails. It just makes sense.

>>533921282
> Thank you for playing Yu-Gi-Oh! Master Duel

>>533921282
1000 years of duel monsters pandering

>>533920750
my original post called out >>533916469 who made the claim that lancea is always a good card that everyone should always run it no matter the meta, and the only reason it wasn't until now was because it wasn't shilled before maliss came out
I just pointed out that lancea has always been known and nobody uses it when banish decks aren't meta
your post doesn't say anything
when maliss is no longer meta, lancea will stop being used as well
you are agreeing with me, and disagreeing with the guy I was originally responding to
what exactly are you trying to say in this post?

>>533921357
It's a work in progress, haven't tested it yet, only running deck theory in my head.
Its just like Pokemon, I'm preparing for a war I will never fight

>replying to maliss downplayers

>>533921776
Obviously we're agreeing that Lancea is fine and balanced, and likely won't be hit

>>533921776
Maliss will be meta for at least a year retard. And after it, there will be more meta banish decks as it's a core mechanic in the game. Lancea will continue to be an unfair toxic floodgate forever onward.

You can keep your floodgate, but you only get to run one copy. Why?

It's best of 1, fuck off.

>>533921878
I'm considering running Rainbow Bridge + 1 brick to search the field spell off of any discard, like furniture, Ariane, or chaos hunter because it just enables more searching through furniture recycling. but 3-4 bricks is a hefty cost. I dunno

>>533921878
archfiends is surely better than chaos hunter?

>>533922290
Yea but chaos hunter discard can send Trannyaction Rollb-ACK turn 0, and it's not once per turn so you can theoretically get 2 cards in GY for turn 0 plays. Theoretically anyway. Also what's archfiends? Not entirely familiar with every archetype, so I'm just listing my bias.

I was aiming for jurracs, but 2000 gems later and all I have to show for it is...

Is gordian slicer a decent going 2nd removal or is it just dust bait, I pulled 2 of them as well.

>>533922118
lancea is stronger in a best of 3 where you can swap it in or out if the opponent isn't playing maliss
despite that, maliss is still going to be meta for a whole year
konami has had plenty of time to ban lancea in any format, yet it is at 3 in every format
why do you think it will be hit in a format where it is weaker than usual?

>>533922691
Simul Archfiends
Just a floodgate that cucks Ryzeal and Maliss
Makes more sense to run than the gnome trap and chaos hunter which are bricks in the wrong matchup

>>533921776
>who made the claim that lancea is always a good card that everyone should always run it no matter the meta
You fucking snake, I never said that.
Your original statement was
>>533916254
>Then why was nobody playing it before Maliss?
And I explained to you why but I never made the claim that you're trying to push on me you double faggot.
The post you quoted was my very first post in this thread you fucking retard, feel free to go cry to a mod if you don't believe me.

watching not /ourguy/ i can tell maliss is beyond fucked and reyzal actually helped that deck with the less lancea terrorism

>>533922827
I mean I can see the logic here, seems like a good add. And yea the deck is pretty tailored to current format, so its weak into non-meta. Many things I must consider.

>>533922810
Wrong. Bo1 is inherently more sucky, because the range of decks being played is much wider, so you get punished a lot less for sub-optimal deck building.

The opportunity cost of running Lancea is significantly diminished by the fact that the ladder is extremely forgiving, and you will find greater opportunities for niche and surprise uses than you would in s structured bo3 format with side decking or at a local venue with a limited number of players.

>>533921878
I was gonna ask what Deadnamer was for but I see, it's Ghost Reaper target. Had to rack my brain to even remember which ghost that was and then look up the effect.

>>533922290
Chaos Hunter can send Transaction and can also be summoned as a free 2500 body with the Ari's or Labrynth Labyrinth fiend summon effect, and is potential material for Chaos Hunter with Chandrag (like how Stovie is material with either Ladies or the Ari's are with Arias)

>>533922827
Simul cucks more than that and is more fool proof than say D Barrier where you declare one card type and they can pivot. If the meta is like 70% Ryzeal or Maliss you could feasibly shotgun it unlike D. Barrier. It stops additional summons of any ED card type that already exists on the field.

Has the japanese dude posted the picture with the number of cards you need for each card in the new pack yet? I dont know his name on twitter

>>533922810
>konami has had plenty of time to ban lancea in any format, yet it is at 3 in every format
They had plenty of time to hit shifter too, but only did it after it saw an increase in play.
>why do you think it will be hit in a format where it is weaker than usual?
83% play rate.

>>533923174
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-vuZi42Tiic

Synchro and Link Relinquished when?

>>533923041
Is this fatfuck ever not miserable? Why does he always look like he hates every waking moment of his life?

>>533922793
why even pull, you only need asteros
>slicer
sucks when you can just play slayer

>>533923313
Anon?

>>533923173
It is unfortunate that Ghost Reaper ends up benefiting Maliss, but at least I can hit Apo to slow them down.

>>533923041
he went like 14 - 0 with this deck. he is the only reason so far convincing me to pull for this deck

>>533923313
Anon....

So I should pull the white forest secret pack if I want to play that, right? I don't really care about Ryzeal

>>533923041
>Wins every game
>Still complains about Maliss and calls it tier 0
Why is he like this?

>>533923313
>Synchro relinquished
Isn't relinquished a level 1?

>>533923649
He's an /mdg/ poster.

>>533923342
I had max gems and some in the gift box about to expire, I figured I might get lucky and pull an astero or worst case get enough URs to dust for it.

And now that you mention it, banishing your extra/hand face down is way too high a cost for an uninterupted bounce when slayer already exist.

>>533923512
Anon it's not even full power right now (missing Eclipse Twins) and just gets a major buff when it slots in the TCG archetype Mitsurugi.

>>533923649
I hate this fat fucking cocksucker so much. Jesse Kotton is the exact same. Literally just lying downplaying niggers who prefer robots to waifus (card game niggers who hate anime tropes clearly) and want to deflect from their bullshit cocksucker decks.

>>533923202
>83% play rate.

>>533923601
you can pull and play it in the cup if you want but it won't be a full deck without the new support and azamina which isn't in a pack yet

>>533923715
>j*sh is the guy up-playing lancea and calling for its ban
Imagine

>>533923838
Those aren't floodgates.

>>533923601
Secret packs tend to have better value. Unlike the selection pack, it's more likely to give you the shit you're actually looking for. People are mostly just pulling the ryzeol packs because ryzeol is the next big meta to rival maliss

>>533923948
>

>>533923601
Honestly yeah. I thought it was worse than it actually is. Thousand Eyes Restrict is a gimmick card in Tearlament still, but a bad pull. Anima is a fine single pull. Diabellze is a eh to meh single pull. The problem is even if you want 1 Anima and 1 Diabellze they're strict 1 of ultras with no wiggle room there.

So it's 5:3. That's not terrible odds.

>>533923313
I think you mean XYZ and Pendulum and Maindeck and a superboss that fuses all of them and loses to book of moon
>>533923698
Yeah?
So is Polari

>>533923981
This is so wrong

>>533923948
>Lancea only does mainly shuts down one deck and if you're running 3 has the same odds as being drawn as their negates.
what the fuck is your point nigger

So do I build White Forest or Resonators for synchro cup?

>>533924157
how many ur dust are you willing to invest

>>533924143
Lancea is a toxic floodgate that gives you an automatic win vs. any deck focused on banish.

>>533923601
yes but keep in mind that a half of your cards are going to be from the master pack and of the ones from the secret pack half will be the other archetype featured
>>533923981
stop lying to new players

>>533922864
you absolutely did, here is the conversation summarized for your pea-sized brain
two people were agrguing about floodgates or whatever for a while
the argument that nobody knew about lancea starts with >>533916031 who states that lancea only affects rouge decks outside of banish metas
>>533916194 disagrees and says it hits every deck in the game hard
>>533916254 asks why it wasn't run before maliss if it was so strong
>>533916469 is what I originally responded to, which says that the only reason lancea wasn't run before maliss was because ecelebs didn't shill it
that is wrong because lancea has been a well known counter to banish decks for a long time
if you are >>533916469 and >>533916194, then you claimed that lancea is a card that is good enough to be run even outside of banish metas, which is incorrect

>>533924157
Play a loaner, it's pretty obvious they're going to use them to shill the current selection pack.

>>533924071
If you want to craft a specific archetype deck that has a secret pack, the options are to hard craft the whole thing and/or pull from the pack. Crafting the entire thing is usually unrealistic because it will suck all of your dust away, gems are a more disposable resource

>>533924018
But... Isn't Polari a gimmick card? I'm not opposed I'm just confused on what gimmick they could give the Mr Steal Your Cards archetype. Toss some ideas around, I'm interested. Maybe somethin like, tribute one monster your opponent owns that you control and this monster (presumably a fusion in aarchetype) synchro 1 relinquished monster, or something

>>533924157
Resonator has a structure deck but I think it uses more "generics" or at least ED URs that you'd have to pull single file or craft.

WF has the secret pack but you have to craft ALL the Azamina.

There will probably be a loaner. I think White Forest has better legs.

>>533924143
>if you're running 3 has the same odds as being drawn as their negates.
That's not how that works you math illiterate nigger.

1/3 of 1/3 is 1/9

The odds of you drawing the negate to Lancea when they have Lancea is 11%

The odds of them drawing Lancea is 33%

You will be drawing the negates to Lancea when they don't have Lancea. That factors in statistically.

The result is that 22% of the time they will have Lancea and you can do nothing about it but hit surrender.

>>533924362
The Millennium Eye is a powerful artifact, capable of many strange and unnatural feats.

>>533924362
dark synchros from 5ds

>>533924226
duelist cup usually don't have loaner

>>533924294
saying secret packs are better than selection packs is retarded

i take the R curse of the ancient turtle but where is dark necromancer konami?
stop delaying the vendread support

>Spend all my gems on the white forest secret pack
>Only needed UR I got was 1 Silvy and 2 Astellar

>>533924795
it's time to play relinquished...

putting Relinquished in this deck is a pure fucking troll, it doesn't even have fucking Kaijus in it, because why would it, which is like literally the only way Relinquished can function and that's like 2022 tech

>>533924438
>The synchro lets you peak your opponents hand, rips a monster and places it in your spell/trap zone equipped to it
Oh fuck now we're talkin

>selection pack usually made out of 3 archetypes
>assuming equal distribution, each UR has 1/3 chance of being the archetype you want
>secret pack usually made out of 2 archetypes
>assuming equal distribution, each UR has 1/2 * 1/2 of being the archetype you want (halved because half cad you pull came from master pack)
though i guess the percentage differs a bit in case of shit like ryzeal pack (5? archetype in one pack) and white forest (5/7 being white forest stuff)

>>533924937
>spoiler
same with snake-eyes secret pack
why the fuck would it have evolzar stuff in it

>>533925031
I don't want to do math, I just want to piss and shit in the thread.

>the newest and hottest meta deck scoops immediately to lava golem
mikanko stocks are up bigly

>>533925398
skanko support fucking WHEN
I'm tired of breaking the board then dying to 1 (one) ash blossom and losing the game on the spot

I don't know why I blew all my fucking gems pulling from Ryzeal but I got *most* of them.
I did not know about Mitsurugi beore I pulled, I looked up the cards and I'm way more enthused now. These are cool looking cards.

I should have fucking saved my gems for Labrynth alt art
I just pray we don't get it any time soon because they're waiting until the support comes out, which only came out in TCG a month ago. Maybe the new Dominus support card too. THAT would make sense.

>labtranny is retarded and pulls for a deck he doesn't want
wowie

i am really liking the new t0 boardwipe

>>533924937
Im tired of my luck being straight ass opening packs. Every pack is just 1-0 UR's and most of the time it's not even a UR that I want

>ryzeal cross's negate doesn't chain and ext ryzeal's summon is not an effect
this is actual fucking cancer

>>533925031
Funny that we ended up with 5/14 < 5/15 (1/3) so the White Forest secret pack we have right now specifically might be better than the theoretical White Forest selection pack where they share their spot with 2 other archetype with each having 5 URs (assuming equal distribution)

>>533925540
You're out of gems but on the bright side you have a meta deck that will easily carry you to master rank for the next dozen seasons. You should be able to get most of those gems back by time they put out the alt arts...but I have no clue how hard it is to pull those things

>>533925674
You ain't seen nothing yet. Prepare your anus. You're going to hate Joshua after this meta.

>>533925674
but have you seen ext send mereo to chain block either

>>533925824
who?

So is Ryzeal really as bad as people said? Can Maliss do anything to them at all or do I just have to go next and hope I don't go against them

Has Josh Schmidt ever been particularly known for his Ryzeal gameplay? Or is this just one guy off his meds?

>>533925674
yes they're the new best deck
good thing nobody will play mapiss after this

>>533925398
Anon this may sound crazy but... I have a fully ready to go and crafted Mikanko. Everything basically. I have a Royal rare Angelica's ring too!... But I literally don't know how the deck functions at full power. I've used Mikanko multiple times (and enjoyed it a lot) but only exclusively during events that have restricted Ohime and other cards.

>>533925948
He plays new meta because his name as former world champ is known well enough to market himself by playing decks people are excited for. It's nothing new, typical business decision really.

>>533925883
This faggot >>533923041

>>533925948
He has said that Maliss is the most toxic and terrible tier 0 bullshit archetype since Tear basically and that Cyberse should be deleted meanwhile he plays and fucking downplays Ryzeal and even right now is streaming a 14 game winstreak with Ryzeal while STILL bitching about Maliss, which Ryzeal fucks in the ass. Anon is not having a schizophrenic break.

I feel like making jurracs but I noticed that only their new cards are any playable and you have to cope the rest of deck with generic dinosaur support(that is usually UR).

>>533926150
maybe he really is /ourguy/

>>533925948
He's streaming right now, retard.

Can somebody explain the reason for this?

>>533926150
He bitches that Maliss is a degenerate FTK combo deck, he said the same thing about Mathmech. He just doesn't like those decks.
That's hardly hypocritical, everyone wishes Konami would stop printing these decks.

>>533926176
you can play them with fire king which is better than regular dino

>>533926176
Jurrac Aeolo had some fun swarming tricks with Rekindling and is a Secret Spoils target but yeah the old cards don't really do much themselves anymore

>>533924219
>the argument that nobody knew about lancea starts with >>533916031 # who states that lancea only affects rouge decks outside of banish metas
>>>533916194 # disagrees and says it hits every deck in the game hard
>>>533916254 # asks why it wasn't run before maliss if it was so strong
None of those are me.
>then you claimed that lancea is a card that is good enough to be run even outside of banish meta
Feel free to point out where I said that Lancea was good enough to be run outside of banish meta.
The most I answered >>533916254
Does not make mention of a specific meta.

>>533926215
It's VFD for Synchros.

>>533926206
No. Just your guy.

>>533926221
>everyone wishes Konami would stop printing these decks.
Not me, and I'm Konami's target audience.

>>533926221
Maliss goes off if you don't shut them down. Ryzeal just goes off and is oppressive either way and is much easier to play as well. Ryzeal is a braindead nigger deck.

>>533926080
oh
I already hate him, he's ugly

>>533926215
I mean, seems obvious enough to me
Haven't checked, but they probably also banned card like Discord

>>533926215
i mean its a floodgate but still very funny that one of the other post has them removing all magistus cards from the witchcrafter secret pack
>we hate magistus

>>533923828
Sorry but no. While Jesse is also a fat bastard Jew just like Josh, he at least admitted Malice was overhated and that Ryzeal was a real fucking problematic deck.
I think only recently did Josh concede on Malice not needing to be nuked by banlist to the point it’s unplayable but 100% of the meta he complained about it even as Ryzeal was at 70% usage and winning almost every single tournament.
TCG players are dogs anyway and you feel it in the way they interact with the game anyway. It’s a job. Even worse for Americans, since to them, your hobby MUST make money. And that’s why TCG is so bad on top of the shitty banlists and refusal to admit a deck is problematic (Ryzeal). Snake Eyes was UNIRONICALLY less terrible. But at least it was not as bad as Yubel.

>>533926150
>He keeps winning against maliss but claims that it's broken
I think he just hates cyberse in general with how he used to hate mathmech circular. He could also believe that the archetype is strong but hes only facing shit maliss players

>>533926221
>everyone wishes Konami would stop printing these decks
Japan alone proves you wrong.

leave synchro cup to me

Malissbros, Is A bao a cunny worth ending on instead of Apo? Or do we always try to end on Apo regardless?

>>533926532
you don't end on apo
you start with apo to protect the rest of your combo

>>533926305
but it does only effect tiered/rogue decks, what are you saying? There are plenty of decks that don't banish at all. To be honest, if your deck dies to a single hand trap, it's a shit deck or extremely toxic and is designed to be countered by blowout cards.
>lancea still isnt hit
2 more weeks!

>>533926491
He said Runick was healthy for the game and complained every time it got hit. He's a hypocrite like every other TCGcuck.

>>533926273
Yeah, they seem to have some synergy with FKs. I'll try mixing it up with them

>>533926532
Bao is actually rightful Live Twin Chad property.

>>533926684
you can do this which is very funny >>533925638

>>533926532
apo just protects the extended plays for malice, but is still a better option than bao

>>533926653
It's not a handtrap, it's a floodgate.

>he got suck in diamond 1 hell just like me
kek

>>533926748
Believe me I would be playing twins if the new support came out this pack

>>533926669
Ah, so he the "my favorite deck is healthy but everything else is toxic" kind of player, fantastic. Knowing that he favors a stun mill stall deck so much just annoys me more for some reason.

>>533926797
>discards from hand
>acts like a trap effect
Its literally a hand trap with a lingering effect

>>533926870
you can already do it, you don't NEED the Lil-la maindeck and Ki-sikil Link to do so. Since Fiendsmith. Bao also just really helps them along already. But honestly I haven't memorized the combo lines for even pre-Bao yet.

>>533926936
He hates Labrynth, he hates Tearlaments, he hates Maliss. In fact, he REALLY hates Tearlaments.

I think the guy just has a biased hateboner against anime girls/waifu decks, but is trying to mask it under the guise of "I'm a pro player guys" to give himself credibility.

>>533927036
It's a floodgate.

It doesn't "trap" anything. It's not reactive to anything like a trap card would. You simply discard it at any time at all during the game, and you get a floodgate effect.

>Use 10k gems on Ryzeal
>Only got 2 ext and 1 duo drive
>Only have 300 dust
I should have just spent it on white forest instead

>>533927125
>I think the guy just has a biased hateboner against anime girls/waifu decks
This is literally what I accused him of above. He's a fat faggot who seethes over cute anime girls in muh yugioh and people who like them. He's the kind of faggot who calls literally every deck with a girl monster in it a tranny deck (except he'd never use that word publicly).

>>533926305
are you illiterate?
>The most I answered >>533916254
the question asked in >>533916254 was, "if preventing banishing hurts all these decks this badly, then why does nobody use lancea outside of banish metas?"
you would know this if you could understand context or read the post he responded to
out of context you answered, "because ecelebs didn't shill it"
in context you answered, "this card is good enough to run even outside of banish metas, it wasn't used because ecelebs didn't shill it until now"
both statements are incorrect, lancea has been a well known card for a long time
if you didn't mean those, then please learn to read before making posts

>>533927262
>it doesnt trap anything
It literally traps malice and floo into not playing.
>its not reactive
It literally is
>simply activate it in hand to initiate trap, reactively
I feel like you're just splitting hairs because you play malice

>>533927354
He would never say it publically because he associates himself with the pink-haired abomination and has to be an "ally."

It's why it's so funny the thread spaz calls waifu decks "tranny decks" when troons and their defenders are typically the first to seethe over anime waifus.

I'm literally retarded, I feel bad dismantling my extra Baos...

i wish you could convert like 3 or 4 URs into 1 Glossy or something...

>>533926215
I'm guessing it is the floodgate effect it has:
>If this card is Synchro Summoned: You can equip 1 "Magistus" monster from your Extra Deck to this card. Your opponent cannot activate the effects of monsters with the same card type (Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, or Link) as a "Magistus" Monster Card in your Spell & Trap Zone.
At least konami got it before the start unlike the flying c incident

>>533927545
meanwhile mbt openly says deadnamer out loud, what a chad

>>533927539
That's not trapping, that's floodgating. It's a floodgate.

>>533927669
mbt is literally married to a tranny

>>533927723
she literally just had a kid schizokun

>>533927669
I don't believe you.
Fartfa who he often associates himself with would have cancelled him if so, as Fartfa simps for the troon.

What's the purpose of Light Dragon @Ignister in Ryzeal? Is it just to protect Deadnader?

>>533927753
yeah the anal worms laid eggs congrats

>>533927669
>crystron smigger

>>533927675
So you are just a malding malice player? The deck is DESIGNED to be countered by Lancea. Sorry I don't wanna let you gain infinite card advantage, summoning a field of degenerate recyclers with draw power and LP manipulation. I'd rather Lancea be legal over Malice being playable, and statistically my opinion is the more agreeable one. Dont hate the numbers anon, they speak for themselves.

>>533927753
>She

>>533927856
Lmao

>>533927669
MBT is literally a Rothschild Jew and says it "ironically" he's the biggest most outspoken LGBTQF2S+M ally. He constantly makes /leftypol/ tier jokes about anti-woke people whining about privilege and wokeness and DEI and shit but it's not in an actually detached topical way like it's masked as, innocuous like just "aren't those people silly", he's explicitly in support of all of them and all of their values. He has the pass.

Yeah, I just went against Maliss twice in a row. You're fucking retarded if you think Lancea is going to get hit with that shit being the way it is.

>>533927457
>are you illiterate?
Are you?
I literally admitted previously that the post you quoted was my first post here, in other words, that I didn't bother reading the previous posts.
>lancea has been a well known card for a long time
I know, if you actually bothered to read my post, I was kind of glad it went under the radar because I was playing sexosister when everyone else was on tearlament.
Now, do you think sexosister was a rogue deck during the tearlament meta?
It was statistically still one of the most played deck during that era.

Dzeef is our guy because his only character trait is downplaying his deck.

>>533927979
>He constantly makes /leftypol/ tier jokes about anti-woke people
B-B-B-B-BASED

>>533927907
Of course you would. But Konami doesn't. Alice in Wonderland is extremely popular and people are dropping a popular OCG deck because of a toxic floodgate. Japanese Twitter is calling for bans too. So you're just gonna have to suck it up and git gud

>>533927981
Skill issue.
If you can't win with your helmet deck Ryzeal, that's literally a (you) problem.

>>533928090
People are dropping popular archetypes to play a toxic pypiggy waifu deck, your argument holds no water. Nips WANT maxx c to be legal and you're going to side with THEM?
>Of course you would
Everyone else does too lmao lol even
>konami doesnt
They coulda hit Lancea by now, why do you think they haven't? Why do you think they banned Scythe instead? Its the same archetype, they obviously are aware of it.

>>533928230
Nigga can you point in my post where I said I was playing Ryzeal?

Rhymestyle and Seereax are our guys because they're just funny retards. Dotodoya isn't because he's a very white guy who talks like a weird nigger/Mexican while also not showing his face 95% of the time like he unironically has racial dysmorphia.

I don't know anything about CGB except he's a funny nerd who desperately needs a fucking Lifesaver/hard candy/steady drip of water because he always inevitably gets gross to listen to and watch during the "Magic player rates Yugioh" shit with all the dry white cotton mouth spit he struggles to speak through within 1/4th of the way into the video.

>>533928286
I find most of the people in the West virulently complaining about Maxx C (with no wiggle room either) more detestable in character and personality than Maxx C itself (and in some cases, actual cockroaches!)

Also the TCG where Maxx C is banned is a fucking disaster of every cocksucker having to make space for 6 different Charmies with Meowly in the side deck. Fuck that fucking shit it is LITERALLY worse than the roach at 2.

>>533928362
I would watch CBG back when I played MtG Arena. Shame that game is a toxic skinner box and the art style is cancer. Magic can be fun sometimes, and I enjoyed trying CBG's deck builds sometimes.

>>533928362
Not related but on the topic of gross streamers, I cannot stand jessie kotton. I can hear the spit in his mouth welling up when he gets excited. I always end up turning off his streams because its just so fucking gross. SWALLOW YOUR SPIT YOU FUCKIN BALLS

>>533928286
>People are dropping popular archetypes to play another popular archetype
Wew.
Malice will stand the test of time because it's popular.
Ryzeal won't because it's only played because it's the current dominating deck.

Honestly Ryzeal doesn't feel that bad to play against as Maliss unless they just draw every handtrap + Ext

>>533928552
So lemme get this right, you don't want Maxx C banned because you like it (its toxic), but you want Lancea banned because it stops a toxic deck? Sounds like sunken cost to me

>>533928710
I've never once looked at a Ryzeal endboard (post dweller ban) and thought "damn theres nothing I can do about this"

>>533928825
It's almost like Ryzeal is an honest deck or something

>>533928825
Yeah it feels like people were overhyping them. You imperm or veiler duo drive and they end their turn

>>533928286
>Everyone else does too lmao lol even
Prove it.
No, the trooncg doesn't count. You're all faggots.

>why do you think they haven't?
Because they're obviously still looking over the data? Why do you think it took them months to hit Shifter?

They obviously want to asses how the meta shifts as Ryzeal gets added to the game as well. However I they are aware of the fact that when Maliss launched, 83% were playing Lancea, that number then went up, and Maliss' winrate and play rate TANKED.

That's not gonna help them when they want shill new Maliss support.
That's not gonna help them when Maliss inevitable gets alt arts.
That's not going to help them when Orcust enters the meta and they gotta try and shill it in a Lancea format.
Or when DM gets its new toy they're gonna try and shill, but "OOPS, YOU CAN'T PLAY IT BECAUSE EVERYONE IS RUNNING LANCEA because Maliss is still meta.

>Why do you think they banned Scythe instead?
Because it would have guaranteed that Ryzeal becomes a Tier 0 deck in a Bo1 format.

>>533928710
That's because Malice often has an endboard with several negates, multiple recyclers, multiple draws, GY banishing (as a quick effect), and will almost always draw into hand traps due to deck thinning during its nocuous combos, which also can take several minutes

>>533928576
>>533928286
Anything based on ALICE IN WONDERLAND aka "Arisu no Monogatari" will always endure and live on. Ryzeal on the other hand is a generic bunch of fucking forgettable, generic, robot slop with no identity, with flames painted on.

>>533928731
I'm not that Anon. I was making a comment on Maxx C. I don't want Lancea banned.

>>533927991
>in other words, that I didn't bother reading the previous posts
that is the point, you failed to read when context was important
and yes, everything that wasn't tearlament wasn't worth running silver bullets against during tearlament meta, it is literally in the name "tearlament meta"
even if people use exosisters a lot, nobody is going to run cards against it when tearlaments are the better deck to tech against

>>533929013
>coping this hard
Lancea has an 83.4% playrate. It didnt before Malice, scientists are baffled!

>Ryzeal down players are already here....
Hooo-boy!

Bros what do I do? I spent all my gems on Ryzeal and I don't enough dust to craft the rest of the deck. I skipped Maliss for this, so what do I even play now?

>>533929105
Based and I apologize for projecting

>>533929105
For the reference, it's "Fushigi no Kuni no Arisu."

t. I've been living in Japan for 6 years now.

>>533929281
idk how you skipped maliss and still didn't have enough

>>533927979
I saw him talk about politics once and he makes it nebulous on how he feels about certain subjects by just treated all sides as silly but at the same you can just feel that there's some /pol/ beliefs in him deep down, but the alphabet people the surrounds himself with would ostracize him if he was more honest about his beliefs

>>533929184
Im not even trying to downplay. It's a strong deck, don't get me wrong, but It's not a deck with 0 counterplay or chokepoints

The deck only ends on a few pops. What is so unfair about this? Meanwhile you have Maliss linkvomiting for several minutes to end on an unbreakable board. Cyberse trannies are mentally ill

>>533929326
>Fushigi
Leave it to konami to put an ad for glass balls used in magic tricks from the early 2000s

>>533929113
Answer my question: was sexosister considered rogue during that era?

>>533929181
And Maliss is the next big waifu deck that's gonna make them a lot of money, Captain Retard. It's gonna get shilled in both the OCG and MD for a LOOOONG time. Which means Lancea will be a format staple for a LOOOOOOONG time, and it's going to gatekeep every banish strategy Konami tries to design for the foreseeable future.

How are you this dense?

I need some advice. I only have enough dust to finish my White Forest Azamina deck or my Centur-ion deck. Which one should I pull the trigger on?

>>533929414
MBT is in this thread right now, anon. I wouldnt doubt that he's been a channer for at least a decade based on his speech patterns.
MBT if you're here call me a faggot

>>533929326
Alice Kuni... ToT

>>533929438
No deck is like that. Even Tearlaments had counterplay and choke points. But Ryzeal is still undoubtedly the best deck in the format ATM, and will only get stronger when it gets Mitsurugi.

The bar for yugitubing has ways been low, but i think Rata is one of the best. He uploads a few videos a year talking about random archetypes, and then disappears for a indefinite amount of time while making farfa and mbt passive aggressively mald at his ability to effortlesy draw so many views

>>533929326
https://www.themorgan.org/printed-books/270642

ahhh yes

>"Fushigi" (不思議) is a Japanese word that primarily translates to "strange," "curious," "wonder," or "mystery"
ah yes... the strange, curious, mysterious "kuni" of Alice... Indeed *smokes pipe*

>>533929554
Based on your logic, it seems the shill deck is more toxic than the card its designed to lose to. People dont run droll when it doesnt hurt the meta, its still at 3. Crazy how that works. They'll probably hit malice a little bit and people will stop playing Lancea as often and things will normalize, as is evident with droll

when will we know whether ryzeal or maliss is the better deck in master duel?
What will it take? his tournaments? a duelist cup? overwhelming % played on ranked?

>>533929512
I already answered yes
if it was good enough to be worth it, lancea would have been run
anything that wasn't tearlaments was rouge
that was literally one post, how could you not understand the meaning of a single post?

>>533927262
>You simply discard it at any time at all during the game
only on opponent's turn

>>533929851
No, because the "shill deck" isn't actually that strong and balances itself just fine going into next format. You can see how it's been handled by the Banlist in the OCG. It's a total non-issue except for malding retards with a hateboner for waifu decks. Same exact shit as with Sky Striker.
>people will stop playing Lancea
People aren't going to stop playing Lancea so long as Maliss is popular, you fucking retard. And it's in Konami's best interest for Maliss to be popular for a long time, so they're GOING to shill it.

>>533929960
Untapped is 1 week behind the current state of the game. In other words, it takes untapped roughly one week to collect and publish data. So you will have a first view at the meta then.

Post Ryzeal decks please.

>>533930296
>downplaying
Stopped reading there, you have no idea what's good for the game

>>533930732
I mean it's been obvious all thread that reading isn't your strong suit, so no surprises there.

>>533930296
>And it's in Konami's best interest for Maliss to be popular for a long time
>cripples them in their debut event
>release Ryzeal literally the next list
>also bundles it with Meowls
sorry, you're saying?

>>533930048
So for you the third most played deck during its prime(going by statistics) is a rogue deck?
I assume your definition of rogue is entirely based on win rate then? But let me remind you that Malice has statistically a win rate below 50%, does it fall into the rogue category? And if not, where do you draw the line?

How many times have you dusted an entire deck profile because you rarely ever played it or it got too power creeped into uselessness, only for it to get some decent support much later and you feel stupid because now you want to rebuild the deck which will cost even more gems/dust.

>>533930840
>Malice has statistically a win rate below 50%
statistically wrong

>>533930732
Lmao

>>533930296
We also know that Konami is going to release sexosister support and since Lancea hard counter them, they either have to cripple Lancea in a way or another or give the sisters a new gimmick.

why do ryzeal lists i see run the ignister xyz? is running it absolutely necessary?

>>533930943
>dusted an entire deck profile
never?
why would I ever dust a deck I've finished

>>533930815
>bad faith ad hominem
>outs himself as a brainlet downplayer
You dont have to embarrass yourself further, we can all see the thread. Come back when konami announces lancea ban (it wont be)

>>533931010
>Maliss nullifies virtually any deck made pre-2024
>"its okay because other decks are also strong"

Context bro
See >>533920235

>>533930960
Forgot to quote
See >>533920235

>>533930820
Basic pattern recognition is a benchmark for average IQ. If you lack something so simple, you're not worth engaging with.

>>533931065
Exosister, Orcust, Dark Magician.

Just to name a few. Pretty much all of those get gatekept hard by a Lancea format. And if THEY get popular, it becomes a Lancea format again.

It's fine in Bo3, but for Bo1 it's gonna have to get hit as it makes entire decks unplayable whenever you have a meta banish deck.

>>533930840
>third
lmao, not even second
also the only reason for maliss's current win rate is because of lancea
if lancea were hypothetically banned and the win rate shot up, that alone is enough reason to unban lancea or ban maliss in that hypothetical scenario
also >>533931386

>>533931228
Congrats, you just discovered the meaning of powercreep.
It's not the first time and it certainly won't be the last, the entire business model rely on it.

>>533911950
>and you're helping make sure Lancea gets hit on the Banlist
Lol. Maybe you believe Ash Blossom gets banned too.

>>533931228
>Nullifies
I count 7+ decks behind Maliss.

>>533931386
I don't take unofficial locals winrate, thank you very much

>>533931451
Basic pattern recognition is a benchmark for average IQ. If you lack something so simple, you're not worth engaging with.

>>533931480
I'm still waiting for your definition of rogue deck.
>Lmao, not even second
Should I understand by that reaction that people should only play meta and nothing else?

>>533912634
She did force a turn skip on every fuse from deck archetype in the game however.

God, the Malpiss player is STILL seething endlessly about people not liking his shitty waifus?

>>533931076
Will you lick my asshole when it does? I already screencapped your other post too.

>Lancea is unlimited in every format
Nothin personnel.... kid....

Anyone else doing fs ryzeal?

>>533931595
Feel free to post your own source, until then, you're just pulling claims out of your ass.
You did say that it was statistically wrong, right? You're in other words saying that you have statistics that price otherwise, feel free to post them.

Thread is moving so fast no one will see that I'm gay

>>533931842

>>533931480
>win rate shot up
You can't prove that. It would go up, but by how much? Can you give us the numbers? Surely you're intelligent enough to calculate that, right?

>>533931771
Sure man, if that helps you stop sperging out while the rest of us have civil discussion, sure. Just stop having a melty.

>6k gemmies
>157 UR dust left
pretty grim

>>533916435
>Why did no one play Shifter before Tears despite it being a solid counter to literally everything in the game prior to that, captain retard?
Floo is laughing at this post

>a monster negate and two pops
>tcg fags have been whining about this for YEARS

what the fuck?

>>533931893
You're a big gay

>>533931915
based on the spazz anon earlier, apparently 22%

>>533932296
That's not how that works anon.

>>533931904
>Complain about unofficial locals winrate
>Post exactly that

>>533932364
Oh, I know.

>>533932435
it's not from rigged local tourney for once

>>533932502
I'm still waiting for your definition of rogue deck btw

>>533932437
Do you?

Because you actually could calculate the winrate Maliss would have without Lancea by using its current winrate, and the 22% probably of Lancea totally ending your turn and guaranteeing a loss.

It's just not as simple as taking >>533931904
53.5%
and then going
+22%
Unless you're actually fucking retarded.

>>533932613
different anon

>>533919845
"Just draw the out"

>>533932627
I got no stake in this, I'm just shit flinging at the maliss downplayer

>>533931962
You can cope with 2 copies of deadnamer and duodrive. Ext is already limited at 2, Sword is a 3-of. You can just play a suboptimal version of this deck until you grind enough to fill out the rest. A half ass version of ryzeol is still better than most decks right now

>>533932006
People who whine about Ryzeal are those who whined about Fiendsmith where it is lean one card starter combo that ends on simple but effective enough interaction. The leanness allows you to mix both and leaves room for more handtraps than average archetype deck would allow.

Then the real reason is that in TCG is that Bo3 has allowed extra flexibility from siding. You can play generalist/meta aimed build but then side into more specific matchups since your decks core is already so thin so you have real room to tailor your side and substitutes.
In Bo1 its just OK pretty fair deck on the whims of how many handcraps you drew and did you go first.

Plasma Hole is fucking BUGGED wtf. It only lets me target my cards to destroy even though that shouldnt be possible

Didnt Jewnami make sure this shit worked during that long ass maintenence?

Ryzeal will be more consistent that Maliss they said. Ryzeal never bricks they said...

>>533932929
>pass to your opponent
>activates everything on draw phase
>they pass it to you
>topdeck your starter
>win
ez

>>533932929
the amount of handtraps you have to run is getting ridiculous. 1 card combo is a mistake.
also just pass and those mulcharmies will probably win you the duel.

>pulled on the wrong account

>>533931708
first of all, you are moving the goalpost yet again
second of all, my definition of rouge is tier 3 and below
but during tear meta, anything that wasn't tear might as well be considered tier 3
why would someone use lancea to screw over the top 3 deck when they could use cards to screw over the top 1 and 2 deck?
your own argument doesn't make sense
>Should I understand by that reaction that people should only play meta and nothing else?
you are trying to make exosisters seem like some big deck during that era, and when you don't get the result you want you pivot to "why to you hate rouge decks"
exosisters are one rouge deck out of many, most are not hurt by lancea
>>533931915
it's win rate is already high enough to be considered meta and will continue to be at a decent tier for a long time, and this is with dedicated hate cards such as lancea being thrown into every deck and side deck
the win rate going up is obvious when the cards stopping it from going up get banned
once again, you try to paint maliss as a victim held back by lancea and when nobody cares you pivot to "how do you know maliss's win rate will go up?"
both of you fuckers are pathetic

>>533933450
not reading that fucking essay holy shit. shorten your posts or just fuck off faggot

This guy makes ALL the Live Twin video guides. I wish I could UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FUCK HE'S SAYING MORE THAN 40% OF THE TIME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7qb1WhZGoA

Ban Usarctic Septentrion

>People spending the entire month saying Ryzeal will be unstoppable and you aren't ready to go against it.
>Deck hard loses against Veiler/Imperm negating Duo Drive
>Also hard loses to Ultimate Slayer and Imperm on Detonator
Really? You guys spend so much time hyping up this?

>>533933927
>MUH IMPERM AND VEILER (Veiler fucking sucks btw)
you already posted this an hour ago quit trolling for (yous) with your manufactured downplaying
>ultimate slayer
lmao okay buddy you're kind of reaching

>>533933840
Since I got fucked over on the white forest secret pack, I guess I can learn how to use A bao a cute in my Live twin deck

>>533933720
>maliss downplayer doesnt want to read
>just wants free wins
telling, truly.

>>533934080
i play Ryzeal. cyberse tranny

>>533933927
why would you even make duo drive first before deadnamer

The fact I had a hard time against this board is proof Ryzeal is broken, can't wait for Eclipse twin and Mitsu ! Thankfully I maxxc his ass or it was joever.

He had effect veiler, 2 fuwalos and nibiru in hand.

>>533934063
It's legit and only gets stronger with the two additional in-archetype Live Twin supports to come.

But you want Knightmare Gryphon and the full Fiendsmith (slop) package too.

>>533933927
To be fair, eclipse twins isnt in yet, and that's the real problem card in ryzeal.

>>533934159
Do you not know what downplaying means?

>>533933450
58.7% would be Maliss' winrate if Lancea was banned btw.

>>533934169
Literally every Ryzeal player I've come across makes Duo drive first and then scoops once it gets negated

>>533933450
A sub 50% winrate is "high enough" for you? Wtf are you smoking?

>>533934262
fuck, sounds like a fun time to climb rank

Xyz Universe into Indigo-eyes

>>533934203
I don't have the fiendsmith cards but it's only like 150 UR dust so I can make it and have some left over. I need time to build up my stash too and hopefully get lucky on the white forest pack

>Veiler on Duo Drive
You're supposed to have the field up before going into him, bro

>>533932929
>A lancea will usually make a maliss player scoop instantly
>dropping two mulcharmy will scare from building a board
>use imperm at the right time to cripple their play
Not the worst bricking I've seen, it can survive most turns until you open the 1 card starters...but tenpai and ancient gears can usually unga bunga it

>>533934628
Dont forget Lancea protects from called by

>>533928825
If twins was in it would be a lot more of a problem. Also because ext exist they are really good at breaking boards.

I personally dedicate this post to all the yugituber that post 1-card combo that just turbo into Duo Drive
Thank you for making my rank climb piss easy

>>533934713
No but.... It's ONLY good against Maliss!

>>533934439
I've only lost against one Ryzeal player and that was because he had Maxx C, Lancea, Fuwa, and Ext in his opening hand

>>533934262
You're likely playing people who heard the deck was broken but haven't learned to play it yet. If someone is using duo drive as a starter before deadnader, then they arent playing it right. This happens every time when a new strong deck comes out. Most Maliss players were also playing like shit for the first couple of week ls

I don't want to craft seventh tachyon, so what's a good FS Ryzeal list to use?

>>533929438
The same can be said about maliss, but everyone is bitching about them constantly.

>>533934259
If Lanceas was banned and there was no Ryzeal that is.

In other words, Maliss' hypothetical winrate last month would have been 58.7% which would have put it 1 whole % point above Blue-Eyes.

>>533935059
none FS ryzeal is a meme

>>533935059
>he doesn't want to search lancea with seventh tachyon
what are you, gay?

>>533934901
I mean yea, it's primary function is to stop maliss from setting up, you are correct. It having an affect on other cards is a symptom resultant of a toxic deck thats extremely popular, you never saw Lancea before malice meta. It being able to protect against called by is also just a side effect to the actual mechanic of the card.

>>533935110
That would make it tier 1, anon

>>533935183
>search lancea with seventh tachyon
...holy fuck

>>533935168
It was the way people played the deck before Mitsu fully dropped. What the fuck are you talking about?

>>533934262
enjoy it while it lasts. some yugituber is gonna make a flowchart that sets cross and adds plugin and then those lobotomites will learn.

>>533935201
Yeah, it's popular because its and instant win against one of the strongest decks but it also has other uses. Just like bystial isnt just a D.D crow, but can dodge called by

>>533935523
>its an instant win against one of the strongest decks
And most every other deck in existence

>>533935631
wanna guess how many of these deck instant lose to lancea

Untapped data just reset itself and started counting games again from 0. You should start seeing the metagame data on Ryzeal on the ladder within the next few hours.

This is what it looks like atm at just 6 games played.

>>533934901
You're better off running ghost belle before to stop called by and no one did it. It's such a low occurrence that it's not worth it especially after the charmies got released

>>533935362
TCG only nigga, nobody cares about your meme format
FS Ryzeal never existed in OCG

>>533935351
Yes but no.

Tiers aren't defined by winrate, but representation at tournament tops. With a winrate that high, it would see much more success at tournaments given how popular it is though.

>>533933720
>lancea haters can't read
why are you on a website that requires reading, in a thread about a game that requires reading?
if you hate reading so much, why don't you copy/paste posts into a text-to-speech program?
you have no excuse
to summarize
>both people I responded to are disingenuous fucks that pivot their argument when it doesn't go their way, or try to paint the other person as someone they are not
for more details, which you might want to know, you can copy/paste my previous post into a text-to-speech program
>>533934259
>>533934387
it is undeniably tiered in paper formats even now
in MD it is arguably one of if not the best deck until today when ryzeal released
people lie using math all the time
people also fail to calculate odd correctly all the time
people also forget to factor in many different factors that affect the outcome, such as how the post that originally gave those sub-50% odds forgot to exclude mirror matches or the winrate of other decks to compare
you either got those numbers from the maliss down player that had an agenda and miscalculated/excluded several things, or a tierlist website that only receives data from registered users and also doesn't factor in mirror matches
I do not believe a useless blanket statement of a "sub-50% winrate" from a down player, especially when they might not even understand the math they hold up as the truth

>>533935778
Crystron, Battlewasp, Swordsoul Tenyi, Resonators, Branded.

All decks that would be meta if not for Lancea being in the format.

>jump into ranked
>nobody is on ryzeal
can you niggers just play the new deck so I can play goblins? I've seen more SHS today than Ryzeal

>>533936108
>Branded.
>instant lose to lancea
lmao
let me just give you the d/d/d

>>533935778
Of the tier 3+ decks, 2. It's not a guess either, having a few banish effects versus the entire deck requiring it are 2 different things. It's not a counter to a deck if it only stops extended combos, versus forcing a turn pass (which it should do against maliss). But I'm sure you'll just tell me something like "all of them"

>>533936009
>arguably
Factually wrong. The best deck in July was Blue-Eyes. Both untapped and the official gane records proved this.

>>533936108
>5/19
>most

Why does it say I can dismantle 3? Didn't they change this and I can only do 1 since I only owned 1? Or does owning 1 copy mean you get the full 3 dismantles?

>>533936217
It was meta before Lancea dominated the format. As was Crystron. Clearly it had an effect, retard.

>>533936108
swordsoul, resonators and branded barely give a shit about lancea

>>533936284
I wasn't that anon, I was just using that post to dismantle the usual talking point people use when defending Lancea by saying it only affects Maliss, when every Banish deck in "trending" would be meta if not for Lancea. Case in point, Crystron was Tier 1 in June, and Branded was Tier 2.

>>533936325
If you owned 3 before the announcement, iirc. I think it had to do with royal farming abusing the system for net gains by crafting 10+ and dismantling the foils and royals for extra UR dust. Somethin like that.

>>533936401
not whoever you're arguing against
i'm just here to laugh at you for being so ignorant about the deepest deck branded

>>533936108
>All decks that would be meta
>swordsoul
>battlewasp
>resonators
i hope for your sake you're just baiting because the alternative is sad to imagine

>>533936009
>I do not believe a useless blanket statement of a "sub-50% winrate"
So you don't believe the official stats pulled from the game by Konami themselves?
Ok.

>>533936401
>Branded
>Meta
It was rogue at best. Its endboards aren't enough in nu nu nu nu nu Yugioh

>>533936256
I call bullshit
I only use Argostars and DW, and I have never once lost to Blue-Eyes unless I brick extra hard that game
I'm assuming that is based on usage rate instead of actual deck strength, since I do see them a lot on the ladder
but to be fair to your argument, I do use DRNM which shuts it down when I go second

>>533936325
>You get bonus points for dusting a banned card(before a certain date)
>they limit the bonus dusting to 3 times
You only have 1, so you can only do the bonus dusting once out of 3. They probably limit it to stop players from getting too much dust in return, which is pretty dumb because it usually cost a lot of gems or an equal amount of dust to craft them anyway

>>533936618
trending IS meta
and correlation does not imply causation anyway

>>533936723
Then why did it fall off the meta when Lancea entered the format?
Surely it couldn't be because it's main combo requires a banish to fuse, it runs Bystials which need to banish to work, and it's main boss Monster has a banish interruption. No.

>>533936612
Swordsoul very much cares about Banish.

>>533936765
>the official stats pulled from the game by Konami themselves?
the deck winrate they used there is not the official stats actually

>>533936878
Foil dismantles were +45 and royals were +60, dunno if its still the same, but the return values, especially on SRs, was just too much for konami, they were losing precious pennies on the dollar

>>533936947
>Then why did it fall off the meta when Lancea entered the format?
you mean when maliss entered the format
>it's main combo requires a banish to fuse
>main combo
lol
>it runs Bystials which need to banish to work
on opponent's turn
not on their own turn
>and it's main boss Monster has a banish interruption
can't use lancea on your own turn

>>533936325
If you own 3 before or pulled it randomly during the period before you can still dismantle it just fine. The change only affects crafting the card.

>>533935778
Fiendsmith controlled is hindered by Lancea.
Branded is hindered by Lancea.
Mermail is hindered by Lancea.
Crystron dies to Lancea.
Swordsoul is hindered by Lancea.
And so on and so forth. Just because your deck isn’t mainly about banishing doesn’t mean other decks never banish EVER as part of their gameplay.

>>533936947
Nta but power creep. You can just yellow button and do better with fiendslop, blue eyes and malpiss. Branded loses only one interaction when Lancea'd

>>533936947
>when lancea entered the format
I want you to think long and hard as to WHY lancea entered the format, then look up when maliss was released compared to when lancea's popularity rose. Like most other people looking for wins more than anything, they just abandon old deck for new deck, that's powercreep baby.

>>533933450
>first of all, you are moving the goalpost yet again
Please, we both know that you don't actually care, you see this as an opportunity to flex your intellect or something, which is why you keep answering.
>my definition of rouge is tier 3 and below
>but during tear meta, anything that wasn't tear might as well be considered tier 3
>why would someone use lancea to screw over the top 3 deck when they could use cards to screw over the top 1 and 2 deck?
Right now, Malice is tier 3 in OCG, would you still have issues with Lancea being restricted in any form?
By your own words, no one care enough about rogue decks to specifically tech against it, right? So OCG gutting Lancea shouldn't affect them in any way, right?
And you're being disingenuous, Malice has a sub 50% winrate, it's nowhere near as powerful as Tearlament.
>you are trying to make exosisters seem like some big deck during that era
It was the 3rd most played deck in that era but you don't care about popularity but winrate, which make your argument against Malice retarded since it struggle to reach a 50% winrate.

>>533936824
Win rate.
You clearly have an advantageous matchup. That means nothing when factoring a deck's strength anon.

>>533936885
Trending is in fact NOT meta. Dekayed doesn't get to make new words for what is and what isn't meta because he's a retard.

>>533937185
>Fiendsmith controlled is hindered by Lancea.

>>533936709
You couldn't craft more than the legal amount that was reduced. So if you had 0 or a million and it got banned you could still only get the refund for 3.
>>533936878
Yeah but I'm just confused by why the UI is saying I have 3 applicable cards remaining, and then the bonus points says 1/3 like it always used to.
Not going to test it myself with a UR and didn't own a Dice Smasher sadly.

>>533937185
>Mermail is hindered by Lancea.
No it really isn't
>t.Mermail enjoyer

>>533935873
>FS Ryzeal never existed in OCG
frankly that is more NIPs fault than anything else.
OCG players are comically bad at deck building and barely innovate outside
>ah konami-dono say play archetype so I lowly salaryman ygotard will play arcetype + maxxc-san

>>533937206
Oh no... Not a 58% winrate!!!
We need Lancea otherwise the deck is unstoppable!

>>533937245
>>533937115
You can't use Bystials if your opponent Lanceas you, you stupid moron...

>>533936949
Going by tournaments alone, Maliss struggle a fucking lot to win anything with ryzeal taking everything.

Nobody would be running Lancea if Maliss wasn’t so stupid.
It totally fucking up banish focused decks is sad (RIP Ghoti) but blaming Lancea entirely just proves that you’re a Malissfag that doesn’t want to take any responsibility for the absolute state of the meta.

>>533937248
Yea I mean, now. Im pretty sure that was changed like mid last year, or something. I used to craft cards for the bonus points too, trying to farm royals (it never worked for me because konami had their desire meter turned on of course).

>>533937387
It's because of the banlist retard
TCG had Engraver and Bonfire at 3 for an embarassingly long time

>>533937545
still not official

what hand traps should I be populating this with? Twin-bros?

>>533937245
Bystials are turned off yes, you fucking mongoloid. Hence hindered.

>>533937543
read the card nigga

>>533936949
Yes it is. The winrate displayed by Konami is as official as it gets.

They track it. +50% winrate
+55% winrate

If it's not tracked it's cause it was UNDER 50% guess which deck with a 42% play rate didn't track at all?
That's right....

>>533937410
>doesnt know that 58% winrate is insanely high for 1v1 type games
ngmi ngl desu senpai

>>533937608
It's literally something you can see for yourself retard.
Or are you going to cherry pick the rare tourney Malice actually won and say that they are the top deck out there?

>>533937748
no dumdum
there's no deck winrate stats in master duel

>>533937543
Bystials are used on the opponen't turn. If they suspect malpiss then lancea ends the turn anyway. At worst Fiendslop control can just tribute summon a Bystial to set up Lubellion > Regained.

>opponent makes a gross misplay
>can't punish him
AAAAHHHHHHHHHHH he probably thinks he's so smart too

>>533937750
Blue Eyes is currently at 57.5% idiot...
And that's not even the highest Win rate in the game. Several Rogue decks often go up to +60% because they can sneak plenty of wins against the meta.

>>533934992
most maliss players are still playing like shit right now
summoning their links off the traps, banishing them then wondering why their banish effects didn't trigger

>>533937797
>It's literally something you can see for yourself retard.
yeah, i'm seeing that it's literally listed as not official

They really need to add
>Sort by type
Bookmarks are a fucking mess now.

>>533937612
blizzard

>>533937920
>asserting that I'm defending cancer eyes
You sure are making a lot of assumptions

>>533937797
Malice only won one semi competent Tourney and that was in France.
Just ignore the Josh subscribers, all the data shows Ryzeal was the meta warping deck and Malice did nothing. Other decks won major and Malice is still a fraud.
Even in OCG it did nothing with LE SCARY APO legal.

Im having fun playing against Ryzeal unironically. It's not as bad as people made it out to be on reddit and youtube

>>533937631

>>533938030
I'm asserting a you're a fucking idiot that doesn't understand numbers.

>>533938105
With literally 0 context, your assertions are baseless. I'm not the anon you think I am, you're just projecting like a child.

Personally I don't hate mapiss because meta.
I hate that it is dull retard combo deck for fat weebs.
I can't wait for VSK9 meta for real interactive gameplay.

>>533938098
Yes neither player can banish card for the rest of the turn.
Use your Bastial I chain Lancea. Now fuck off and read the card yourself you mongoloid.

>>533938051
Seriously why do you bring up Josh in every post?
I can't recall him ever saying anything about Ryzeal. If it was a Runick meta or something I'd understand.

>>533938228
>With literally 0 context
All the context I need is that your dumbass thinks 58% is a big scary number for winrate. When the power level of a deck is relative to the meta, and its own popularity.

>>533938340
Josh subscribers is for the Malice hate and retarded lies more than anything. He was still disingenuous about Ryzeal but that is not the thing I hate him for.

>barrier statue
>3 solemns
>morganite
The Solemns haven't been hit nearly enough yet

>>533885105 (OP)
Why can't i use red ransom as two materials for white binder? white binder only needs two monsters

>>533938307
>still did not read the card
read thoroughly nigga

>>533938506
Because it's a Link 3.

>>533938506
Both Ransom and Binders are link 3. You need a link 2 for it to only take 2 monsters

>>533938340
He brings up Josh because he's a huge Maliss hater pretty much entirely because he hates waifus first and hates cyberse second and downplays and mains metaslop Ryzeal acting like it's not just as bad (or demonstrably worse by tourney results, and only going to get worse too; Eclipse Twins isn't even fucking out to say nothing of Mitsu).

>>533938506
you can only treat link 3 as 3 material or 1 material, not anything inbetween

>>533938530
Bystials are on both turns you moron. It’s not only on opponent of your own.

I did a cheeky pull although I am not interested in Ryzeal.
Got Meowls.
Thanks Konami!

>>533938307
>xhe thinks branded summons bystials during their turn
Read the other effect of Saronir

>>533938392
>creating scenarios that didnt happen
>still projecting
Give me (you)s so I can ignore them, Ill just continue discussing with other smarter anons

>>533938672
and when do you think fiendsmith control use bystials

>>533938746
>what is Albion Rojo
Retard.

>>533938340
>I can't recall him ever saying anything about Ryzeal
That's the point, he doesn't really care about it despite being stronger than Malice.
If Ryzeal was about cute girls, you can bet he would hate it too.
People complain about him because he pretend to be fair when he's actually very biased and his followers just parrot whatever he's saying.

>Ryzeal comes to MD
>Malissfags act like their deck was never a problem

>>533938617
>>533938880
>Maliss hater pretty much entirely because he hates waifus first and hates cyberse second
He hates long combo decks. Maliss is a long combo deck. Ryzeal isn't. It's not that complicated.
But that's the same take I've heard from basically every yugituber/high level player. It's not like Josh is the first person to bitch about 30 minute turns in Yugioh.

>>533938847
Branded can just not summon him and go directly to lubellion. Also you said chain lancea to bystial, dummy

>>533938993
Chain Lancea to Albion red. What now? Sometimes you don’t have a choice in the lines you’re making.

https://ygom.untapped.gg/en/meta/tier-list?deckBuilding=all&rankRange=BRONZE_TO_MASTER&timeFrame=CurrentMeta&viewArchetypesBy=All

Lmao, no one's is playing Ryzeal, everyone is playing Maliss.

now this is /ourguy/, is it time to build maliss since everyone bricked themselves with ryzeal?

>>533939114
Too bad Branded is going directly to Lubellion when Lancea is being played

>>533939159
Make him rinse his fucking mouth and maybe Ill watch him

>>533939114
>Chain Lancea to Albion red
sorry buddy, you can't chain shit

>>533939159
This faggot is just as bad as and basically fatter, American Josh with leprosy.

>>533939180
Too bad every list still runs 2 Red Albion DESPITE Lancea because it’s that good for your lines. Like stop, people aren’t going straight into Lubellion 100% of the time even with Lancea.

>ice ryzeal
>light pyro

>>533938618
>not anything inbetween
oh i was not aware of that, this is the first link deck that i play with many monsters with the same rating so i didn't encounter that situation

>>533939159
what is wrong with his face?

>>533939348
Red albion is sent by Mirrorjade for its gy effect. You run it regardless

>>533939151
>Chadtira with a 100% winrate going first
Unstoppable!

>>533939282
Anon... That's not how that card works. Its first stipulation haas no bearing on Lancea since lancea prevents banishing, andf the second stipulation is AFTER the card hits the board.