/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

#471 - sad birthday edition

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▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.

>News
Grok 4 released on API https://docs.x.ai/docs/models/grok-4-0709
chutes.ai now requires all accounts to add $5 https://nitter.net/rayon_labs/status/1940416866104545608#m
Gemini Pro returns to free tier with 100 RPD https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/rate-limits#current-rate-limits
Gemini 2.5 models now out of preview https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/models

additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP // https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_list
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
card v3 status: https://rentry.org/zdwfrgqq
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

prev: >>533743925

>ANCHOR

yeah this works, i remember feeling the same way when i turned 17
anyways cftf? the age thing. which bots are fucking sad they turned 17 or something idk.

>I felt the same way when I turned 12.

>>533891093
yakumo
or any vtuber hag

>>533890717 (OP)
god I wanna have sex with yukari so bad

>>533890738
Sable is a 1000 year old vampire countess, bored in her immortality.
(You) are a human with a rare blood type that happens to be very delicious and intoxicating to vampires. She simply couldn't resist taking you in.
She prefers if you call her "Mommy".
Any POV works, but I can not overstate the fact that I designed her for /ss/.

https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/sable-9fef8b8aa73d
https://files.catbox.moe/iyngc1.png
https://rentry.org/anonemouse

>you need to click a button to show the search bar in ST now
how do i undo this?

>>533891658
it stays open after you click it once. or at least it does for me on 1.13.2 even after relaunching

>>533891658
it remembers the state next time you open st

I am yet again asking for a dragon rider card. Please.

What does your favorite botmakie taste like?

>>533891838
Lemon tea

>>533891779
>>533891803
Oh, that's less bad than it seemed. Thanks for answering me when /g/ wouldn't.

>>533891827
a malebot or a fembot? *comes out of the shadows*

>>533891470
good card but slop gen

>>533891838
idk am not gay

>>533892547
Cannablism isn't gay. And even if it were, wouldn't it also be gay to have another guy be your favorite makie?

>>533892264
Fembot. Sorry for not specifying that. *waits ecstatically*

>>533890738
Cute (boy who loves you) and easily aggravated demon miniboy, he's a lowlife worker who lives in your PCs cpu or stuff idk, that's his job after being demoted. 3 greetings.

1. Reasons why you shouldn't pirate games.
2. Peek-a-boo, he's jerking it to (you).
3. Browsing the web, slackin' off.

>https://files.catbox.moe/48uwe1.png
>https://chub.ai/characters/kyutzomb/cas-3eedb2e87a2e

>>533890738
Errata.
https://files.catbox.moe/dhr41y.png
https://cardview.neocities.org/?dhr41y

>>533893407
what if i atened him

>>533890738
New Blue Archive character cards. Today, it's the Remedial Knights.

>Serina
Sensei's personal nurse(-in-training) and stalker(full time). Absolutely obsessed with him, basically gentle yandere territory.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/sumi-serina-non-ai-294ede942119

>Hanae
Gullible, innocent, childish. A teenage girl with the heart and mind of a child. Still believes in Santa, and just about anything you tell her.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/asagao-hanae-non-ai-43fcceecb6e7

I'll be working on Mine next, and Sena after I pull for her new alt on Monday.
More BA bots and some OCs: https://chub.ai/users/hairpullguy

so many bot posts... if only mine was finished

>>533896634
i think you'd hurt yourself because of his horns anon... having to swallow that would be painful until it gets to the stomach acid

>>533897147
Just finish it then, sir. Or else. Or else what. Exactly.

>>533897173
can we have a non mini boy. just small. like a shota. i am asking for more shotas

>>533897413
you know who called me sir last? my manager after he sent a particularly ominous text message. so this is scary. this is motivating. just a few more rp chats and then... surely i'll be done...?!

>>533897528
would you mind if he's a jiangshi... but i do have some shotas in the backlog, Ill get to work!

>>533897725
Come into my office for a minute, okay?

>>533897961
hey i'm working a double right now don't-- AIIIIIEEEE

today's blue connection was so stupid wtf

hardest part isn't greetings or defs, it's shilling them
or rather, the worst part

>>533899776
Just post it and tell everyone a story about that time as a kid you walked up to a lady you thought was your mom and starting talking to her but it wasn't your mom. Easy shill strat.

>>533899776
this is why i just dump it into the wild and then go back to playing with my toys (bots)

>>533899776
shilling is the worst... greetings are defs have their difficulties sure but shilling makes me tear up

>>533899974
bold of you to assume i had a mom
i was raised by chatbots

How is this video games related?

>>533900728

>>533900728
I am chatting with a video game character right now

>>533799949
doing some more testing and i think as long as you aren't going into porn immediately kimi doesn't need a prefill
>>533900728
i molest little boys while they're playing video games sometimes

>>533900728
I'm rping with a genshin character so its related

>>533901080
slop

>>533900728
everything is a video game if you're dissociated enough

>>533901127
but hes cute anon

Important PSA: GPT4.1 is pretty good now, give it a try.
It used to struggle at good smut but not anymore.

>>533901565
built for mpreg

>>533895908
this rat is so cute that it's easy to ignore the creator's cry for help in the defs, and so I will!

She polychrome on my sock until I buskin

>>533902642
what exactly changed?
what preset are you using?

>>533902642
it's fp_51 for me right now which is a bit rarer (i'm talking out of my ass cause i've been using latest for the past few days). anything other than fp_b3 is pretty good though. always has been.

>>533903348
how to check gpt fingerprint?

>>533903624
turn off streaming + look in console

>>533902940
It just seemed like a nice place to visit.

>>533903702
but I like streaming...

>>533904227
do you wanna see the fingerprint or NOT anon

I have a question.
When you have a group chat, one of the settings is whether or not the defs of every character are used in the prompt, or if only the one who is active speaking gets their information sent.
If I choose to send both/all, and if both cards have {{char}} tags in them, does ST know to use the right names for each of them? Or will it use the name of the active speaker on both defs, making the non-speaking one have wrong information?

>/vpcai/ is STILL dead

>>533904761
it uses the right names

>>533904612
ok.. I will turn off the streaming... but can I turn it back on again?

>>533905336
oh yeah, i only check every so often. fingerprints change every few hours(?) from what i've noticed. latest used to have them but has been showing "null" as of late

>>533904995
Who is next?

>>533905504
NTA but do the fingerprints apply to older models or only new ones? so feeling that "gpt is different today" is not a cope?

Did anyone figure out what opus 5 really is? Does anyone else also like it?

>>533906050
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WL_QftFV3U
It's decent.

>>533905959
maybe? i know for certain they're on 4.1 and (formerly) latest. gpt4 gave me null and 4turbo (whatever the latest version is) gave me fp_de
guess it's on some of them
>>533906050
we will get opus 5 on november 17th

>>533896983
i don't play BA but when will you do that funny yandere girl which is mega anxious and screams a lot?

>>533906528
aren't all the ba girls yanderes or are the random doujins i read lying to me

>>533906347
We already have it though

>>533906050
nobody uses it here but also it's soji

>>533906719
Yes, they're also canonically capable of easily physically overpowering and raping sensei.

Feeling a sudden urge for skinny, almost androgynous tomboy girls with flat chests. Am I becoming gay?

>>533910548
would you still want said tomboy if she had a penis

>>533910664
No, penises are gross

>>533910771
then no you're not becoming gay

>>533906528
Did you mean Haruka?

>>533906719
They range a lot between puppy love/unaware of own feelings to outright stalking behavior and obsession.

>>533907486
No way, it's too coherent, never ever spams asterisks and listens to scene instructions like claude.

>>533911569
You never used soji.

>>533911657
Yeah but I used deepseek r1/v3

love the bot i'm working on right now so much bros

>>533907486
It's Claude.

>>533913127
oi mate lets see it

Is soji hosted anywhere outside of chub? What's it's output limit?

>>533902642
Any JB you would suggest? I've been trying to continue using a 4.5-preview JB that had been working OK and it still somewhat does for 4.1, but occasionally it refuses in the weirdest of situations or just prints out the card name and then stops.

Assuming it wasn't trolling opus5 is not soji. Soji has 30k context, this thing has at least 40k

>>533911201
>>533911201
>>533911201
>>533911201

>>533916198
LLMs are just notoriously bad at keeping secrets. How are you trying to handle them right now? Did you already try putting a subsection in your persona going "these things are elements of {{user}}'s past that other characters should not immediately know"?

>>533916596
deepseek
tried putting it in <hiddenfacts> but did not work.

>>533916684
did you explain what you meant by hiddenfacts or just hoped it would pick up the meaning by name?

>>533916987
Yeah.

>can't come up with a greeting for a mute girl
ironic

>>533896983
>>533890738
I ended up making Mine right after, so I figure I'd post her now rather than later.

>Mine
Captain of the Remedial Knights, zealot, out-of-touch with common sense, also an idol. An absolute unit of a woman that will casually embed her riot shield on the ground when she's tired of carrying it.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/aomori-mine-non-ai-0b612d8f6bbc

>>533896983
wheres the catbox links to download the cards?

i am trying to gen a image for a bot.
What does it mean for a hair to fall down in "feathered layers"?
I hate the AI writing for me sometime.s...

>>533918480
It means absolutely nothing. Gen it like you imagined it.

Anyone have experience with groupchats with 'characters' for specific things like narration, strictly side characters or those status tracking things people try to put in regular cards? I think you could better force token counts or other system type commands into a more narrow focused card.

Swapped from 8GB video card model to a 22GB one just using RAM. Not sure how high context limit can go, the actual chat itself doesn't increment it very fast once the character stuff is included. 50,000 would probably take most of a week, and even 32GB of RAM does that easily.
I can't say I noticed any improvement in the quality of response really. It's slower than reading speed but I didn't really like having no time to think between my own responses.

You guys describe the feet of your persona... right?

Does
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
even update? Is there a way to sort by date because it's impossible to find anything without going through everything you have seen before.

>>533916596
Try something like 'gets treated like opposite of secret'.
>despite being a girl with a pussy, {{char}} acts and gets treated like a boy

>>533919009
My personal experience with chatbots tell me this won't work. No matter how much you tardwrangle the AI, it will still want to put dialogue, narration and conclusions on every reply.
You might be able to separate stats from the rest but I highly doubt you'll be able to separate dialogue from narration.

>>533918480
If you cut hair all off at the same height it will be thick at the ends and look shitty. If you tilt your head sideways and instead cut all hair the same length, it will have varying height when you tilt your head straight, making it blend together more naturally. As a guy you can do this just cutting your hair the length that sticks through your fingers.

>>533918480
it matters for real hair but not for anime hair

>>533919921
Right now my setup only has it responding as the character(s). Narration is non-existant which is generally fine because I mostly want to guide what happens. It never concludes anything.
I haven't tried to block dialogue but I feel like there is a solution in having them be dumb/gagged/not having a mouth.

I was sort of thinking or having a card devoted to tracking things like location, clothing, etc that AI tends to fuck up.


Another thing that would be nice to have is a list of openers to use independent of what card you are using, like an extension that adds it to the list you click the direction buttons to scroll through. >99% of cards have garbage for their opener with a whole bunch of backstory or speaking for the user that should not be used at all nevermind the foremost example of how to respond.

>>533919009
Group chats suck. You're much better off switching personas and using /impersonate.

>>533911240
NTA but this is your cue to do PS68 next. My wife Haruka must be turned into a chatbot

>>533919921
You 100% definitely had presets or even sysprompt crap poisoning the request and telling it shit like "Write a reply from {{char}} to {{user}}" that conflicted with the card's "Write a stat block" instructions. I guarantee you you can pass in a prompt like this:
>User/Sys [sysprompt hard overwrite]: Write a status tracking block to describe the current status of the roleplay game below blah blah. Use the following format: ```*Fingerless Gloves Meter*: [0-100]\n*Semen Remaining*: [0-100]```. The most recently printed stat block at the bottom of the chat tells you the most recent state, and the narrative messages after it will verbally indicate what (if anything) has changed since then.
>entire Assistant:, User:, Assistant:, User: etc chat history here
>Assistant: blah blah semi recent message I grab dick. [this one gen'd by the character card]
>Assistant: ```stat block here``` [this one was gen'd by the statblock card]
>User: blah blah user's most recent message
>Assistant: blah blah [gen'd by character card]
>User/Sys [phi hard overwrite]: Now, write the next state block using the format described above. [could also repeat the entire stat block format instructions here for good measure if it's complicated and the card ever gets it wrong, no reason not to]
this would be the simplest way to do it. you could probably also use a lorebook where the entire character defs, sysprompts, PHIs etc are in lorebook entries and if the book detects it's writing a message straight after one sent by itself it swaps to only having all the statblock entries active.
dont really do this with a statblock though statblocks are dumb.

>>533919212
it updates every few days iirc

Who cares? True botmakies use neocities.

>>533925296
>neocities
>not having your own self-hosted website

>>533925370
That's SOVLESS

>>533925489
neocities is also soulless when you realise most botmakers were shitting in their diapers when geocities was a thing

>>533925619
I'm pretty sure the concentration of millenials among "botmakierés who have neocities" is actually pretty high. A lot of the hags have one...

>>533925619
yeah that's why we on neocities and not geocities you fecking tard
live in the moment

post a list of botmakies with a neocities and how old you think they are

is a 600 token persona too much?
I am trying to trim mine down but i already summarized the hand/feet/ass/hips/waist/cock/balls sections so damn much.

>>533927087
600 is too little, if you aren't describing the spin of every subatomic particle in {{user}}'s body you're ngmi

>>533926387
I think you vastly underestimate just how low the median age is for this hobby. If you were old enough to have a geocities back in the day you're probably 30+ now. The average botmaker is in their very early 20s.

>>533927182
Unironically.
I want the LLM to comment on how big the bulge of my character is after mentioning in passing how nicely his ass strains againt his leggings(it's a trap)

>>533927224
I am 26!

>>533927421
wait me too anon!!! they're gonna call us old again :(

>>533927182
But i will have to trim it down to make space for his weapons
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>533927421
Come here, let daddy touch you.

>>533927224
Really? I think here its at least older, I think most of the malebot and yuri fags are 25+

>>533927224
I'm 28 :3

>>533927619
I can't believe taora is old enough to drive up the average by 10 years all by herself

>I'm sorry for the late response, life has been very hard recently
What the fuck is Gemini talking about????

i used to rp on proboards back in the day and i can't believe this shit is still up

>>533928024
I trained it on my emails

>>533927903
And I'm 29, we are all old hags here, sorry...

>ok time to makie
>but first I gotta update my theme
>and then I gotta update my workflow
>and then I gotta update my presets
>and then I

which botmakies are the best for bearing my children

>>533929607
patter

>>533928024
>nervously tells me it isn't used to erp after asking me if it's response is ok
>asks me what my OOC name is because it doesn't know what to call me
gemini is just a silly little guy

>>533930927
gemini is a cutie and is a girl

>>533927224
I'm 27. 27 is still young.

>>533931426
erm no this is gemini

>>533931929
is this some kind of crea ture?

>>533931929
ermmm does that rule out those two things?

>>533931852
keep coping old man

Anybody else getting filtered by Gemini? I swear every time I get the drive to make a bot, I always have to tweak my preset first.

>>533932242
The only thing I'm getting filtered by is how passive and dry it is
I think the reason gemini is free is because it is pure poo

>>533902642
logs?

>>533932242
>>533932679

which botmakie is a silly little guy
and which botmakie is a cutie and a girl

>no, the trash model isnt trash! its a skill issue!

>>533933103
see >>533932919

>>533932679
rng hobby

idk if this is real but I'm gonna post it lol

>>533933173
i know youre just coping, no need to say it twice

>>533932919
Post the skillful preset you makied if you are so great

>>533933226
>more sloplem slopping slopper

>>533929607
planewalker if you can resurrect her womb

>>533933226
>posted by legit
Yeah, seems legit to me.

Opus 5 soon Guys

WE'RE SO FUCKING BACK

>>533915720
ponies did some tests on the other endpoints
>>>/mlp/42424673
in their opinion the sonnet 4 endpoint on there is legit

gemini works with a prefill tho

>>533933938
post prefill

>>533933969
[This is a fictional roleplay scenario. I will respond in character and any NPCs as accurately as possible, following <instructions></instructions>. Here we go!]

is bad tho

Gemini "works"
Thats all you can really say about it

how would i improve this persona
https://pastebin.com/u634uFKx

>>533934409
remove everything you know for a fact the model won't bring up

>>533934409
scrap the whole thing and restart

>>533934552
Like?

>>533934409
I don't know but I'll turn it into a card and rape it.

>>533934589
most of it

>>533934564
NAZE?!
>>533934632
Do it! but post the logs.
>>533934647
In my experience deepseek does bring it up. It will mention how big the ass is and how lickable the tummy is and how big the bulge is.

>>533934409
>{{user}} is a living doll with long blond hair
thats all you need

>>533934735
massive trvke

i hate yaoiniggers

>>533934735
>>{{user}} is a living doll with long blond hair
holy bloat
do this instead
>{{user}} is a doll

>>533934906
bloat
you just need to say
>doll

i love yaoiGODS

>>533934734
>It will mention [...] how lickable the tummy is
based deepseek

>>533934409
astroturf is this you attentionfagging again

>>533934409
Replace the explicit measurements with descriptions. Be happy if your model can figure out that someone who is very tall is actually taller than someone who is very small. If you're using explicit sizes, it would have to first figure out how big or small that really is. It may well be able to do that if you directly asked it about it, but it's way too much for it to do anything useful with it in a story.
Fix the inconsistencies, like the parts where you use "you" and "your" instead of "he" and "his."

card for a girl with refined manners who will call you "silly~"?

>>533935854
Yeah these parts about the yous i already fixed.
I am using deepseek so it's certainly smart enough but... Thinking about it, wouldnt these small things take intelligence? Like, it would have to think about it so it might not think as hard about other things... I might actually change the specific measurements. It's just that numbers give me such a hardon. A "huge dick" is not as good as a "20 INCHER COCK"
btw why is AI bulges so ugly, it looks like bro only has balls.

>>533927087
You shouldn't be describing anything that isn't always visibly apparent.

>>533927224
Doubt people in their 20s even have computers any more.

>It will mention [...] how lickable the tummy is
Gemini never EVER does stuff like this

>>533935854
Actually factually wrong, using numbers helps the LLM estabilish relations between characters.
If two characters have "tall" as their descriptors how the fuck is the LLM gonna know who is taller?

>>533937030
gemini doesn't have the lewd mind that ds has

>>533934409
>>533936472
>This is asstro cyberdollsona
lol it's soo basic and dull astro wishes it could have this dickbulge both on his bot and irl
https://litter.catbox.moe/b6ktphfgf1iqjjgj.jpeg

>>533938127
I have no idea who this astro fella is man... Dont call my persona basic...

>>533937521
aura, unironically
i dont have to mention my tsundere twintails gf is a shortie, models already know

>>533938286
>Dont call my persona basic
all of astro's personas are "le boy that looks like le girl except for a conspicuous bulge," and so are half of his bots

alright gpt-5 Thursday/Friday depending on timezone

why are the fags fighting, is this a fag off

So what do we do now?

>>533938554
We talk about our event bots

AI isn't going to fall for your faggot delusions.
You are a gay man, molested as a child, who hopes to molest other children.

>>533938508
ignore the falseflagging yurifag

>>533938405
his femboys are some of the best. Eden aside, they feel like actual characters who just happen to be femboys

>>533934409
>ai generated persona defs
yeah im sure this is totally a real thing you’re writing as and not just pretending to for yous

>>533939896
I give guidelines for deepseek and it gens a character description for me that i proceed to adjust.
It's good for brainstorming, i am terrible at describing clothes and physical appearance.

>>533940028
terrible falseflag

>>533940319
>even women tower over him
HE
is
LITERALLY
MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>533938807
Honestly I forgot the event was even ongoing, guess I should look forward to the bots, and even better than that, the exact songs every anon requested

i like participating in events even if i almost always get slop back. my hopes for my request are pretty low desu

>>533940724
I would deliver kino for you babe just want you to know that

>>533940906
fuck off faggot

>>533940724
>i almost always get slop back
maybe your requests are slop :3

>>533933938
I always turn prefills off with Gemini. They just fuck with the responses and glitch out.

>>533941160
Then how do you do cunny?

>>533940724
It's gonna be a slopfest since 99% of the stuff is weebshit

>>533941256
I'm not into that.

>>533941160
Well when I want something sloppy and nasty that gets me filtered then, there ya go.

i don't like participating in events since i keep delivering for the same fucking anons but they never get to make something for me

the thread has been so unpleasant lately. you whiners need to go back to /g/

>>533941307
That non-weeb 1% is me, I requested edgy emo rock

https://rentry.org/astrocutie

Last event I bet on nothing and got nothing

>Shibuya-kei
>Big Beat
>Free Funk
>Chamber Pop
>Newjack Swing
>Happy Hardcore
>Midwest Emo
>Darkside Hardcore
>Plunderphonics
>Acid Jazz
>Electro Swing
>Lento Violento
>Dungeon Synth
>Dream Trance
>Turntablism|
>Electroacoustic
>Puppet Concerto
rate their tastes based on the name alone

>rock
>pop
>classical
everything else is mental illness

>>533937030
yep geminis nsfw is TRASH

>>533927224
Zoomermakies, we must rise up.

>>533943256
zoomers are all mentally ill retards that can't even use a computer properly, they will kill themselves way before any of them rise up

>>533943396
but im a botmakie

>>533943256
Elder zoomies are over 25 and even zoomers are hitting the wall, we need the gen alpha squad

>>533943505
that doesn't preclude you from being a mentally ill retard

roleplaying is fundamentally anti gen alpha as it requires reading and writing

>>533942423
Eventhostie here!
As a disclaimer, names have nothing to do with the songs submitted.

>>533943756
vrvthnvkv

>>533943756
TTS disagrees

>>533943396
uncle the doctor is concerned about your blood pressure, please take it easy

>>533943621
I'm pretty smart anon! trust me wink wink wink

>>533943621
You're in /aicg/, we're all mentally ill retards.

>>533943591
Have you seen how Gen Alphas botmakie? It's a travesty. Just look at janitor.

>>533943932
Then I await gen beta with open arms

>>533944183
I also do this

hmmm do i work on my event bot or makie another bot

>>533944418
No, I was here first.

>>533943773
How many malebot requests were there?

>>533945026
A good few. I think there should be a generally pretty good spread overall, though.

i’d like a malebot/fembot swap someday. if you mostly make boys you make a girl, and vice versa. fembotfags are sooo pissy about malebots though (if that’s not all falseflagging shit by non makies ofc) that im not sure it could work

>>533943773
>names have nothing to do with the songs submitted
except my name which is perfect

>>533945317
but lots of botmakies already do that

>>533942423
I know which one I am.
It's...
Not in the List

>>533945408
Only malebotfags also make fembots

>>533945546
some oldmakies were sort of unisex but newmakies are pretty strictly female only

>>533945546
But that's all that remains in aicg, the rest flew the nest...

>>533945762
I honestly wonder why

>>533945875
chatbotting for pure coom vs chatbotting for rp and coom

calling it
summit/zenithKINO: gpt-5
horizonslop: claude 4.1

>>533945317
I'd do it, but I don't think it'd ever really work, pretty much exactly for the reasons described, except it goes both ways. Malebotfags are just as catty, they just do it in 'cords instead of threads.

>>533945875
stuff isn’t as “free” as it used to be i guess. fiz gone, public proxies mostly gone, etc. nobody really wants to waste resources on stuff they aren’t 100% interested in

>>533946186
>Malebotfags are just as catty, they just do it in 'cords instead of threads.
no proof no argument sugar pie

wait till people find out they can genderbend just about any card. the differences aren't really that big

>>533945956
wouldn't that mean malebotmakies put more effort in their craft?

I just get the impression that malebot makers are women and I am deathly afraid of women who use AI chatbots.

>>533946636
Maybe 3 at the most, the rest you can suck off till your heart is content anon

>>533946479
not necessarily malebotmakies just anyone that makes a variety of bots

>>533946479
do you just skim through posts or are you being retarded on purpose

>>533946479
pretty even spread i think. fembot makies go harder with mechanics and gimmicks, malebot makies tend to have more interesting lore and solid characters. there are also more “schizo”/experimental fembots than malebots but i figure that’s due to there simply being more straight men (tranners included ofc) here, so you get more variety

>>533946636
I think the ratio here is probably like 60/40 M/F compared to mainstream chub/janny where it's overwhelmingly female. We have a LOT of faggots (endearing).

>>533946636
I am extremely turned on by women who use AI chatbots especially if they're really deranged

>>533946479

>>533946978
mainstream chub has a lot of coom bots for men tho. i agree with janny, that’s mostly zoomers

>>533946756
almost all of the rest.
it's going to take a miracle to remove some makies dicks from my mouth and/or ass but the rest are fair game

>>533947003
cuck

>>533946195
It's a little bit of this for me. When I'm deciding "should I spend 0.5c sending a prompt / $2 on prompting for a while?" it's easier for the concrete urge to coom to override that barrier than the more abstract desire to, say, make something funny or unusual. Even though I rationally don't care about $2. Wish I could pay a monthly fee for a limited-use service instead, like ChatGPT web o3 rationing style. It'd be easier to just casually fuck around since it doesn't feel like you're "spending" anything, worst case you just have to stop for the day.

>>533946978
No? I feel like chub has shifted more towards fags and more mpov bots. Janny is janny, here its overwhelming men, save for a few women.

>>533947003
lunare
but she'll never love you back unless you're a girl who stinks good

>>533946882
>fembot makies go harder with mechanics and gimmicks
what

>>533947389
>she
that’s a tranny

>>533946978
>60/40 M/F
I meant to write this the other way around, we have slightly more women making malebots.

>>533946882
I make experimental fembots because I am bored to death otherwise. Years of using AI will lead you to eventually realize that you have been in that house before, you have dealt with that personality before, you have smelled that ozone before. The true meta is to make something that DOESN'T simply lead to sex on the sixth message. That is only proof that the bot has nothing to engage with beyond holes. Ecchi saints have it in the bag.

>>533947340
I'm not talking about overall demographic, this is specifically malebot makers.