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>>533862867 >NewsAgent Record | Orphie Magnusson & "Magus"
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40210604
Agent Record | Seed
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40193008
Version 2.1 "The Impending Crash of Waves" Special Program
https://youtu.be/lT68Fo91vWk
>Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demohttps://youtu.be/Fp7tFxXMoRM (EN)
https://youtu.be/El0GKaGBNyc (JP)
https://youtu.be/fFU7rj7IoLo (EN)
https://youtu.be/c4mHDmvrn4M (JP)
https://youtu.be/yV8loyeDX_M (EN)
https://youtu.be/_i8DIN0zyZo (JP)
https://youtu.be/ftIfHp2h7eg (EN)
https://youtu.be/Oz3CTkv8AKo (JP)
>Upcoming Events for 2.1https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/157696
All-New Program 07/16 - 09/03
Tales of Midsummer Dreams 07/17 - 09/03
Legend of the Marvelous Fish Stall 07/22 - 08/11
"En-Nah" Chess Legend 07/28 - 09/03
Advanced Bounty: Routine Cleanup 08/01 - 08/06
"En-Nah" Into Your Lap 08/06 - 09/03
Ghost Ship Adventure 08/06 - 08/25
JoJo's Space Mystery 08/13 - 08/25
Failume Summer Puzzle 08/20 - 09/03
Data Bounty: Combat Simulation 08/27 - 09/01
>Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online)https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption
ZENLESSGIFT
ZZZ21SUMMER
YUZUHAGIFT
ALICEYUZUHA
>Resources and useful linkshttps://rentry.org/zzzlinks
https://rentry.org/ZZZ-drawpile
https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Friends
>/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
>>533924486Enable manual chain attacks in the combat options.
If C2 Yuzuha has both EX ready + Ult ready
What strategy would be best?
Both attacks activates the free Chain attack.
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>>533924631ult to interrupt a boss, ex special is otherwise quicker through dodging/parrying
*shits myself*
VIVIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
come clean me up!
>>533924368 (OP)Belle is so fucking LUCKY
So is Alice only useful if you hyperinvest into M2W1 Alice + M2W1 Yuzuha + M2W1 Jane?
>>533924720why does she need a vibrator battery strapped to her thigh?
>>533925061I'm still skipping her
>>533924991The big Ai sloppa is back
>>533925061no she's pretty good at m0 and with other teammates
that specific team is just an anomaly
ZZZ is in crisis... They don't have any impactful characters.
>this character completely changes the game!
>have zero interest in pulling for them
This continuously holds me back in these games, I swear
>>533925061shes broken if u hyperinvest, tier 1 if u don't.
>>533925318 Elysia and Dark March soon. Elation Sparkle and Yae on the horizon.
>>533925318Stop memory blocking Miyabi.
>>533925393So an easy skip for non-whales?
I was already skipping the obol team for being too high investment so that sucks
>>533924368 (OP)Can I play as only one character or is swapping in combat necessary if I'm a shitter?
>>533925039Wonder if the mech got girlified as cynical attempt to milk whales or if they realized that the gargantuan frame felt like shit to play.
>>533925318I've blown so many loads to Raiden getting CHURLED, even though I don't play her game. Firefly however, I never heard or seen anything from her.
Imagine if ZZZ had ligma...
>>533925318Their sexiest character is an NPC
>>533925738What's a ligma?
>>533925680>they realized that the gargantuan frame felt like shit to play.this and Seed Sr probably wouldn't even fit in a lot of places on the open map
>>533925318>japanese region in some patch>new void hunter>its Raiden Shogun "Katanamori" Mei>500 gorrllion salesEasy
Who controls Seed's vibrator? Maybe it's an estim that lets her feel what Seed Sr is feeling?
>>533925318Are you the last gift card paid pajeet? Did the google play gift card faucet go dry? LMFAO
>>533924778wise would do this
Join the official /zzz/ guild, across all servers!
https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Friends
>put /zzz/ in your account info
>send a friend request to everyone else from your server
>reply to this post with your UID to get added to the list
Benefits include:
- spamming stickers in chat!
- getting mogged at the arcade!
- stealing whale builds!
- and much more!
Enlist today!
>PS: thanks for updating, OP! and sorry if this post goes through a few times, someone's been spamming from my providor apperantly
>>533925571The game will run you through why you will want to swap as you play, some characters want to swap as little as possible like Jane or Billy as they gets buffs from dodging but you will do more damage because you need different skills during the fight (refreshing attack buffs, shielding, stunning, applying anomaly for disorder damage)
>>533925501>>533925872Miyabi lacks impact compared to them.
>>533925914And how are they supposed to sell mindscapes?
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>>533925318>they don't have any impactful cha-
>>533925890Magus, of course.
>>533925061Alice is a meta top dog if you have M2Jane (assuming they don't change anything, which they probably will). Otherwise, she's just a solid option.
>>533926175Alright, thanks. Let's see if I can tolerate it here, I fucking hate that mechanic desu.
Punching Miyabi in the face
>>533925318Is that the retarded game with the female character in bikini pulling energy blades out of here armpits?
How many times have you lost the 75/25 engine coinflip?
diana
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>>533926359no, that's browndust II
>>533926339Take my penis in your mouth
How do you beat the Miasma Priest on high intensity? I am basically spamming non-stop ults with Yixuan, Evelyn and and Astra at her and it's still really thight to get her down under the timer.
>>533926578zero times because I've only pulled for one w-engine.
>>533926342Some characters can give these utilities from off field with minimal swapping so you don't need to swap off of your dps but most of them are limited and will not be available right now. Pulchra can stun from off field if you have her and Lucy's buff lasts for 30s.
As for limiteds there is Astra for attack buffs, Burnice for anomaly and Trigger/Ju Fufu for stuns.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ZZZ_Discussion/comments/1mhcqoy/pretty_big_scandal_in_the_cn_zzz_scene_the/
>>533926674Parry her during the yellow flash attack spam.
Pick the resonia that scales with low heath and pick penalty that drains your hp during boss fights.
>>533926945no one cares
go fucking back
Should I get Hagnagi for my Mibibi?
>>533926945womp womp
not my problem
>>533927128yuzuha and soukaka are enough
>>533927128Yes, for sovl.
>>533927128if you want to
her fake disorders power up the ice balls faster than the average anomaly
but miyabi is good with anyone
>>533927218I lost 5050 on yzh banner...
>>533926275So if I don't have Jane at all she'll do nothing?
>linking reddit posts now
Shitposters used to try at least...
>>533926945damn. pack it up, its all fucking over zzzsissies
>>533927441Vivian does the exact same thing. And you don't need m2. All this means is that Alice is actually, apparently at least, really strong.
People just found a nice use for rat, but Vivian's bloom is the exact damage that Rat would add to Alice's assaults, and Vivian m2 increases bloom damage+ frequency in a way it comes down to the same as Rat's crit damage increase on m2.
Vivian however does this for ANY anomaly, which is the funny part.
>>533927441Not nothing, but she would perform 10-20% better than current jane teams on average. Jane herself is fine but was shafted from lack of physically weak bosses.
>>533927128She's also the only good electric DPS.
>Miyabi is the same person as the Swordmaster, the third-generation head of the Hoshimi Family.
Due to certain circumstances, she traveled from the present to the past through time travel. As a result, a time loop was created. It's a tragic situation.
>>533927748I don't have Vivian either so it doesn't sound like I'd be able to use her.
...I'm kind of regretting getting Yuzuha now...
Here is the situation with Jane Alice w-engine issue.
For those of you who have Jane C2W1, don't roll for Alice's Sig.
Jane is going to be off field, and her Sig will never activate.
Save your rolls, put Jane's Sig on Alice,
Put Weeping Gemini on Jane since Alice can activate its stacks even when Jane is wearing it, Weeping Gemini is a proper off field engine.
If you roll Alice's Sig, then Jane's Sig will be wasted.
boch
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AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
>>533927892Ok but with whom did she had children?
>>533927892That would mean she's her own great great grandmother bwo
>>533927918You can use Yuzuha/Alice/Nicole or Miyabi
>>533927918Dude, Alice + Yuzuha is just fine for a team.
>>533927892Wise and Belle are also going to time travel.
>>533927918There are still other things you can try, but as a rule of thumb, you need to start somewhere with Anomaly.
You can slot in Miyabi as well, or Caesar (or another secondary support like Trigger). Almost everything works, aside of maybe Fufu due to crit damage buffs being the last thing anomaly want.
>>533928108Belle is homophobic???
>>533926945> OH NO, THIS GUY USED W5> Everyone else who replicated it still used W1 and so the power conversation is still basically the sameWhat are we even talking about here? Not much changes
>Response 1
>Response 2
>No matter which you pick it incorporates both
Why do they still keep doing this
>>533928006Wise also travels to the past
>>533928157I do have Miyabi but honestly slotting anything more with her feels like a waste when she's already steamrolling whatever I put in front of her
>>533928226>>533928332yep, even a girl has limits
>>533928226always has been
>>533927892In a hypothetical first loop where humanity doesn't have hollow navigators, bangboo or the first void hunters to fend off the initial expansion of the hollows, how do they even survive the 100+ years until Miyabi is born
>>533928368You can just save until 2.4 then
>Players using Jane C2W1 are being advised not to pull for Aliceโs Signature Engine
>Jane is an off-field character, but her Signature only activates on-field, making it practically useless
>As a result, Janeโs Signature is better used on Alice, which goes against its intended purpose
>Itโs unclear which character should use which engine, causing major confusion among players
>Even after spending money, players feel like their pulls have no real value
>This isnโt just a balance issue, itโs damaging the gameโs credibility and design integrity
>If left unaddressed, it could become a major factor leading to EOS
This is a serious issue that could determine the fate of game's future.
>sister fucks her brother
>surprised she's a homophone
>>533928368...who do you have then?
>>533928817lol
lmao
go back
>>533928817verified chatgpt post
>>533925843Seed Sr is about the same size as Ben. Pretty sure they just went with a cute girl because they were worried the robot wouldn't sell.
>>533928817Honestly wish I could get my hands on posters like you.
>>533928817>>Jane is an off-field character, but her Signature only activates on-field, making it practically uselessPut it on Alice. Retard bot.
>>533928817Whatโs even more concerning is that jane and alice can defeat Miyabi,Void Hunter.
now that SUMMER IS OVER
its time for our regularly scheduled TRAUMATIZED agents
>>533928986Seed Sr is noticeably bigger than Ben to me
anyway it's probably a mix of different reasons why they made Seed Jr
>>533928859Started in 2.0 and got Astra+Miyabi+Yuzuha so far, I'm mostly just looking for options for my second team at this point
>>533928817>This is a serious issue that could determine the fate of game's future.
>>533927892>Miyabi is her own great grandmotherlmao what a femcel
Looking at /zzz/, it seems this game is heading toward eos. seem like main story will wrap up around 3.0.
Who would have thought one rabbit would cause such a controversy.
>>533928340Because nobody fucking cared about having non-impact choices.
>>533929253>suspicious Links hide trapsOh I get it. Breath of the Wild reference!
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>>533928226This is probably the most unfunniest forced reddit meme ever.
>>533928817>Jane is an off field characterWhy are whales retarded?
>Jane sig is better on AliceIt is not you are forced to keep Alice on field and it's not as strong as her own sig
You can play into either engine with either character but as always whales pay to skip understanding game mechanics
>>533929212definitely has a lot of problems. Eous, Miyabi, and Ellen donโt really bring any memes or popularity some shit There are no zzz characters with an aura.
>>533929471GAYEST GAME OF THE YEAR LOL
do i just cut my losses and uninstall? i have zero drive to continue this game but my account is about $500 worth. i doubt its going to sell anytime soon, cba to maintain it anymore
>>533929551You're replying to bot. The original argument is over here
>>533927965
>>533929678>my account is about $500 worthso like 2 m0w1 characters?
>>533929574they give an impression of being pretty or cutie, but they donโt deliver a bigger impact.
Now that EOS is imminent, what went wrong with zzz?
>>533929595with the way Rover didn't go back to meet with Phrolova, maybe he actually is gay now. maybe he'll do the Nikke thing where Augusta and Iuno invite him to a threesome and he declines them in favor of the cuck chair.
>>533929574zzz problem is that they donโt have a mascot that people worldwide can recognize.
devs are stupid for letting that fly
>>533929794every female + their ball, multiple c1/c2s, all premium battlepass namecards, all shiyu/da full cleared since day 1, even the shitty yum yum namecard
raiders don't send their best
they don't send their brightest
>>533929574Chibi Jane is the official mascot.
Also ZZZ literally has 2x the amount of fanart Wuwa has
>>533929810There is a lack of communication between devs and the community, and devs seem lazy
Look at other miHoYo games, Other games know how to make good games.
>>533929978Its simple half Alice's polarized damage, and swap her M2 with M4 or higher. This is not that hard of an issue.
RELEASE ORPHIE AND SEED ALREADY
Oh no, we're doomed.
Anyways, sneed feet sex.
What do you mean Jane is off-field? Did i miss something?
Do you want to play Jane and Alice together?
>>533930260I released my seed in orphie last night anon
>>533930327Yes. Jane tags the enemy for the gnawed state, then Alice triggers assault to double her assault damage
>>533928817Made me laugh, have a (You)
>>533930327 issues with Alice and Jane could make eos..devs need to wake up..
>>533930496Probably gonna have to get her to complement my Orphie and Sanby, hmm.
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>>533930338How does Magus behave if Orphie's having sex? Do they have to ask for her consent even if she's not involved? Does she stay dormant? Does she join in?
>>533930196>Look at other miHoYo games
>>533930630You ever played metal gear rising and fought bladewolf?
>>533930630magus is orphie's commander, so she gives her orders
>>533930769Give chatgpt a better prompt next time and maybe you won't get caught, retard
I hope the Zzz Christmas event will be good
>>533925318>ZZZ is in crisis... They don't have any impactful characters.>>533925917>>Yenless Yen Zero>>533926219>>they don't have any impactful cha->>533929574>definitely has a lot of problems. Eous, Miyabi, and Ellen donโt really bring any memes or popularity some shit There are no zzz characters with an aura.https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/image/4wQSC1Cod-eJ2jd4L7u_JA/
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/image/yHrUeoB-IfxUxXZEqf5F8A/
honkai troon hours
What is chance that this game will reach eos?
>>533930327>What do you mean Jane is off-field?She is onfield, but Alic is MORE onfield.
That's the problem. Don't roll Alice Sig.
Give Jane Sig to Alice.
Weeping Gemini is Jane's preferred engine in this situation.
>>533930897chinese corporation, bro
i don't think the did anything last year (other than ben's birthday)
We need a Hayamin agent already, possibly a yandere.
ZZZ can be saved if they go full Snowbreak route
>>533930897I want a ski resort similar to the beach resort.
>>533930630>Orphie>having sexOrphie's the type to spill so much spaghetti that men get wierded out. And I imagine having a sentient gun for a tail that chimes in doesn't exactly get her a lot of dates.
Face it /zzz/. Orphie might be cute, have giant rack and plush thighs, but she's a FEMCEL.
>>533926219elysia will save zzz
>>533931015There are many reasons why this game gonna be eos. I think the devs are ruining the charactersโ storylines and images.
the Wuwajeets are out in full effect today
Ah, raid o'clock, my favorite.
>>533930932>What is chance that this game will reach eos?>>533931015>WE LOST TO WUWA>>533931038>We need a Hayamin agent already, possibly a yandere>>533931072>ZZZ can be saved if they go full Snowbreak route>>533931161>we need a wuwa collab
>"When Alice is in the party this Mindscape won't activate"
there, problem solved
>>533931389there is no problem to solve
Holy shit, it's not the second coming of Jesus, it's an interaction between two Assault-focused characters.
You're blowing this way out of proportion.
I think it could potentially face eos, because ordinary players have mixed feelings about it
Especially in the U.S, there seems to be strong rejection when pedo or furry shit characters appear
While revenue from Japan is important, ultimately, income from China and the U.S is also crucial.
>>533931349Is the difference between these 2 numbers the Mindscap 2 + Gnawed state?
>>533931591Ok but itโs the possible dethroning of Miyabi we are talking about. Itโs the equivalent to 15 9/11โs in the zzz community
>>533931725>You need THREE limited characters and multiple copies of one to dethrone an M0 MiyabiStop the FUCKING presses
>>533929161Should I just wait and see what we'll get in 2.3/2.4? I doubt that anyone from 2.2 would be a useful pickup for me
>>533929810One agent is doing too many things lately. Excluding void hunters for a second, we have:
> Lighter: Stun Duration extnesion, Elemental resistance shred, and Elemental Attack buff all in one character.> Astra: Heal, chain attacks on commands, Attack buff on both agents, buffs crit damage> Ju Fufu: Effective 1300 Ult refund, Crit Damage increase, Ult damage increaseThey just come off the top of my mind, but basically if the characters doesn't do anything aside from suck your balls, they are basically a shit agent. And zzz keeps on doubling down on it.
>>533931591It's very silly all they have to do is make Chinatsu ice Jane and Miyabi is back on top. It's a lot safer than nerfing Alice as Alice herself isn't doing anything special they would have to nerf all future physical anomaly characters.
>>533931682Wise is between 25 and 28 years old, so in real life, he would go to prison he is also close to characters who are 16 years old
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THIS COMBINATION OF CHARACTERS WILL MAKE PEOPLE CLEAR CONTENT FIVE SECONDS FASTER! THE COMMUNITY WILL DEFINITELY BE IN UPROAR! EOS SOON!
I can't even use picrel because ingame NPCs behave more coherently than you
>>533931879this means that zzz will be eos
They are already planning to use the idols card in 2.0
It could mean that they will wrap things up in 3.0 and start creating a new IP
yo raidfags
you bring here proves your game is ass with nothing to talk about
>>533932079Looks like it came straight out of PSO2NGS. Where's magus?
>>533931803I just read up on Gnawed
>When Jane's attacks hit an enemy, it causes them to enter the Gnawed state, lasting for 10s.>10 seconds onlyGoddamn, this is going to turn Jane into Rina in all the bad ways.
10 second buffs are really difficult to play witth.
I should just skip Alice.
I like Jane. But I'm M6-ing Orphie.
>>533931881Miyabi doesn't work like Alice. You can already play ANY anomaly with Vivian for exactly the same affect you get with Alice Rat. (Vivian's Ms need to match Rat's)
Alice is simply good. That's all there's to it.
>>533932157>In fact, mihoyo is currently recruiting for new game development and IP creationOH NO NO
>>533932275I thought I already had it, but apparently I didn't save that Trigger pic that's just her giant butt. Very detailed. Can someone post it?
>>533931879All characters except poor Anby are like that, we have three characters but six classes so every character has to do a lot more.
Lucy
>600 atk>dmg% buff >crit dmg buffNicole
>ether dmg%>crit rate buff>def shredLycaon
>buff stun multiplier>gives ice res debuff>Soukaku>1k atk>ice dmg buff>buffs her own atk
>>533932161>>533932079>>533931828Damn it...you win this time /zzz/
>>5339319865 seconds?
This combination that is not M6 clears 120 seconds faster than M6
>>533932295Alice is kind of mid Yanagi will get you better scores it's mostly Jane's M2 causing the whale tears
>>533932295gameโs balance is already ruined. Void Hunter is weaker than an average player, and Yixuan is completely useless
it might be better to just let eos handle it or hand it over to a different development team
>>533932424Pretty sure Soukaku had Ice Res shred somewhere in there. Mindscapes or her ball or something.
>>533932402Youโll have to be more specific bwo
Honestly, is this in a precarious situation?
>>533932205I don't think it's too different from using Nicole who you have to swap in before doing your big damage, or Vivian who you want to defense assist into semi-regularly to get feather stacks
Im trying to stay off the game as much as possible so yuzuha doesnt bait me into pulling her.
I do my dalies then log out.
>>533932424Maybe its the potency of the affects that are starting to get out of hand then. Because aside from Nicole who is the queen of the A ranks (and Sokaku who has no direct competition), the recent characters feel like they are on crack by comparison.
>>533931682>I think it could potentially face eos, because ordinary players have mixed feelings about it >
>Especially in the U.S, there seems to be strong rejection when pedo or furry shit characters appear>
>While revenue from Japan is important, ultimately, income from China and the U.S is also crucial.>>533931725>Ok but itโs the possible dethroning of Miyabi we are talking about. Itโs the equivalent to 15 9/11โs in the zzz community>>533931879>One agent is doing too many things lately. Excluding void hunters for a second, we have:>
>> Lighter: Stun Duration extnesion, Elemental resistance shred, and Elemental Attack buff all in one character.>> Astra: Heal, chain attacks on commands, Attack buff on both agents, buffs crit damage>> Ju Fufu: Effective 1300 Ult refund, Crit Damage increase, Ult damage increase>
>They just come off the top of my mind, but basically if the characters doesn't do anything aside from suck your balls, they are basically a shit agent. And zzz keeps on doubling down on it.>>533932157>this means that zzz will be eos>They are already planning to use the idols card in 2.0 >It could mean that they will wrap things up in 3.0 and start creating a new IP>>533932314>>In fact, mihoyo is currently recruiting for new game development and IP creation>
>OH NO NO
>>533932762Yeah, judging by the current situation, it looks like the balance is ruined too. There are also problems with characters and story, so I'm really concerned
>>533932803> Affects> I meant effectsGod damn it.
Next gooner game is going to destroy us (what's left). That's the only thing holding us...zzz has no identity...
>>533932660No, that's not it. She still had pants on.
It as if there are so many people who have Jane M2 here.
Nothing happens when you stun an enemy in wuwa meanwhile in zzz you can do full ass schizophrenia induced optimizations everytime you stun. Like literally wuwa's combat boils down to learn attack patterns > reach ER breakpoints > mindlessly maintain uptime, there's genuinely nothing deeper then that. Even imaginarium theater's hodgepodge teams are more fun then wuwa's endgame.
>>533932986you're pathetic, raider-kun
We wouldn't be eosing if they didn't kill TV mode
>>533932686>veinsAm harder than diamonds.
>>533932762>Honestly, is this in a precarious situation?>>533932938>Yeah, judging by the current situation, it looks like the balance is ruined too. There are also problems with characters and story, so I'm really concerned>>533932986>Next gooner game is going to destroy us (what's left). That's the only thing holding us...zzz has no identity...>>533933115>We wouldn't be eosing if they didn't kill TV mode
>>533932986worried that it might be eos
>>533933075okay? this is /zzz/ not /wuwa/, go post this over there
I'm doing hodgepodge with miss Montefio
>>533933187steeltusk runs on nitrofuel (booze), and so do i
Thymefield has interesting shaped ears
>>533933591Corn, meat, and potatoes... perfect.
>>533933087To be fair, that's not completely wrong. That's the only way Hoyo is selling this game, and shillers only post the same ass webms every time in other threads. Also, coomers are usually tourists who move from game to the new shiny thing. The only difference from other coomer games like Nikke, for example, is that Nikke has a good story to retain people
>>533933656I LOVE THE RAT
I was wondering where the start of the month pajeets were. 1st was so quiet and clean.
>>533933854Nikke even has a global mascot like Doro. What do we have? At this point, chances of EOS are only getting higher, and it feels hopeless
Maintenance mode by next year
>>533932572No. You don't understand why Alice is good.
Let me explain anomaly. Anomaly works like this: When an enemy gets enough anomaly build up, an anomaly of the respective element triggers and will last by default 10 seconds. During this time you can still get more anomaly build up but NOT cause this anomaly again.
Certain chars like Rat can EXTEND this time, in this case to 15 seconds.
The only way you can cause this very anomaly again is by DISORDERING it. This is normally done by a different element that reaches the maximum anomaly build up on the very same enemy.
Note: This needs to be a REAL disorder, aka not what Yanagi has on her ex especial (Polarity Disorder). This one explicitly states it does NOT remove the anomaly.
Why is Alice good? Because her lvl 3 charge attack causes a polarized Assault, which, similar to Miyabi's own special freeze element, counts as its own anomaly, even though it needs no build up, and can disorder with any and all other anomaly. Unlike Miyabi however, Alice can still cause the normal physical anomaly build up just fine, once again disordering her very own polarized assault.
Note that she also adds a dot to the assault that makes disordering assaults less shit than it is by default.
She is a whole different beast than Yanagi, and Rat loves her because she fixes the biggest weakness Rat has: The cooldown of causing Assaults.
That said, this is strictly one way. Alice doesn't need Rat, as other supports will help her just as well (notably Vivian). But Alice works really fucking well without a char like Vivian too, which makes her such a good Rat partner. Again, because she disorders her own assaults, something Rat would need a second char for anyways.
>>533933854>To be fair, that's not completely wrong. That's the only way Hoyo is selling this game, and shillers only post the same ass webms every time in other threads. Also, coomers are usually tourists who move from game to the new shiny thing. The only difference from other coomer games like Nikke, for example, is that Nikke has a good story to retain people>>533934026Nikke even has a global mascot like Doro. What do we have? At this point, chances of EOS are only getting higher, and it feels hopeless
>>533934175Maintenance mode by next year
>>533934026Hoyo please, commission more Japanese artists to do ZZZ instead of genshin and hsr, tell them to do us instead. HELP US MOREE
Alice is a must summon
Roll or be left behind forever
>>533934450bangboos are ugly, lacking both design and personality. they're one of the reasons game is failing. Unlike Doro, they have no impact and can't even be used as memes
Zenless zone zero is finishedโฆโฆmaybe if you collaborated with Kuro you wouldnt have this problem
>>533934553>Zenless zone zero is finishedโฆโฆmaybe if you collaborated with Kuro you wouldnt have this problem
>>533934520This video shows how zzz is made up of characters that lack individualit
I have no idea how to play yixuan, even with w1, m6 pulchra, and panda I cant do DA 3*
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https://litter.catbox.moe/z75mrn23rjmf9jm9.mp4
https://litter.catbox.moe/7pucbawqi0y58joz.mp4
https://litter.catbox.moe/sb6gals48lv5ogel.mp4
https://litter.catbox.moe/82omc0lfudrbbtqn.mp4
>>533934532If alice looked like that, maybe
>>533934275void hunter rabbitg
>>533932924KEK
any gift cards saaaaaaar
Well, anon? What will it be?
>>533934675Just take a break. Yixuan is a character poorly designed by the developers.
Koleda is finished. Nobody would ever believe she's a girl.
>>533934675> Counter a shit ton (press counter again to do diant bird spread)> Unload ultts in stun window> Use giant ball when out of ults> If fighting the priest, parry a lot. No, Pulchra's does not count.You got this anon.
>>533934673>This video shows how zzz is made up of characters that lack individualit>>533934026>Nikke even has a global mascot like Doro. What do we have? At this point, chances of EOS are only getting higher, and it feels hopeless>>533933854>To be fair, that's not completely wrong. That's the only way Hoyo is selling this game, and shillers only post the same ass webms every time in other threads. Also, coomers are usually tourists who move from game to the new shiny thing. The only difference from other coomer games like Nikke, for example, is that Nikke has a good story to retain people
>open thread
>bot still spamming about whale Jane shit
Jesus Christ no one cares
>>533934751Thatโs problem. Alice isnโt even a Void Hunter, yet sheโs stronger than the actual Void Hunters.
At least Yixuan has a backstory that supports her being powerful, but does Alice have anything like that?
devs donโt seem to have any sense of urgency or passion.
>>533934275Assault doesn't give a shit about the length of the anomaly as assault doesn't do damage over time,
Yanagi ex doesn't remove the anomaly either allowing her to do big chunks od damage without waiting for the 3s anomaly build up cooldown. The one special thing Alice's M2 does is causing both the polarised assault and a disorder when using her ult otherwise the teams damage is mostly Jane M2. Her extra 50% dmg and def ignore ends up causing multiplicative damage to all mono assault instead of the normal additive damage buffs the game has causing all of Alice's damage to go that much further.
>>533934536I know this is mainly shitposting but I unironically hate these. I don't find them funny or cute and I hate they way they push them so much
>>533934706Its too early for me to jerk off. But damn, this is nice
Could Rina work as a replacement for Astra in a Miyabi/Vivian team? I'd like to pass Astra to another team.
>>533935194Rina, Astra, Miyabi, and Vivian are examples of poorly designed ZZZ characters,
>>533935407that's Rina extending shock buffing Yanagi
>>533934675The beginner gameplan is that you want to ult twice, use her enhanced dash attack and dump energy during a stun.
If you use EX to completion 3 times (wing attack) you build a free ulti that gives you an enhanced dash attack, her ultis also give you a crit dmg bonus so, you want to build bar to ult twice and dump your energy during a stun.
You can also build ult bar by holding basic attack but you gotta manage it better, for a beginner i just recommend using 3 EX attacks to completion.
>>533934675Watch one of the 50 guides of her on youtube and commit the key parts of her kit to memory.
Her 3 EX combo fills her bar 1/3rd
Her hold basic ink ball fills the bar by half and charges it faster than the combo at the cost of less damage and more energy drain.
She gets a fake ultimate when the bar is full and a half energy recharge when you hold basic for its full duration after an attack
Always aim for 2 chain attacks playing on manual chain attack mode, 2 ultimates in stun window, then an ink ball attack before the bar expires.
If on auto chain attack, get the ink ball in when the enemy has 99 stun bar and hold for as long as possible, chain into whoever, then chain into Yi, then do the same combo as above in stun window.
Or you can play easiest mode and just spam her EX special combo outside and during stun, but making sure you save the ults for their stun window.
>>533935194Sure why not. Infinitely worse but it's not like the autoplay button needs Astra for anything other than the buffs. Removing 1 from rotation barely helps.
>>533935473The fuck? I think I must be going retarded because I swore that said Miyabi + yanagi. Ignore me
which agent has the best head game?
can we move on from being yenless yone yero and become jeetless jone jero please
>>533935063Alice isn't doing anything mind blowing, she can't clear in an all M0 team like Miyabi or Yanagi and struggles to keep up with Yanagi who was released almost a year earlier. If her M2 was truly strong by itself you would see beta testers run Alice M2 with Vivian or Yanagi. The source of the damage is M2 Jane.
>>533935091>hating bangboosno sovl
>>533935779So glad i've never seen a pajeet in my life, but if i see one i'm finna SLAP.
>>533935779The pajeet subhumans are a large portion of the revenue.
>>533935983cute bibis and cute anby
>>533936082Jeets don't have any money, anon. They have to scrimp and save for their daily ration of cowpie.
is tiger piss good for you?
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>>533935864NTA, but the math is pretty funny with everyone at M2. the calc turns into something like this:
[Assault damage *(1.15+.3)*(1+ 1) + Assault Damage]
where 15% of this damage is "true damage" and the rest is hitting an enemy with 75% Def.
>alice and jane can't be played together, and jane is almost as strong
"Oh no! Alice is useless ! Why would the devs do this ?!"
>alice and jane can't be played together, and alice is stronger
"Oh no! Jane's been powercrept ! Why would the devs do this ?!"
>alice and jane can be played together
"Oh no! Miyabi's been powercrept ! Why would the devs do this ?!"
stuff a cock in it, raiding drama queens
>>533936170They don't have any money because they spend all of it in chinese gacha games.
>>533936082Jeets are paid for their services (shitting everywhere) in american google gift cards saar
what's a good character for a piper lucy team other than burnice
>>533936391burnice
caesar
lighter
idno, astra
>>533936276i legit wouldn't be surprised if there are india based "negative marketing" corporations, to raid your competition with
>>533936391Vivian obviously, Yuzuha and build Lucy for anomaly or Koleda with both her and Lucy built for anomaly for 1.0 memes
>>533936391yuzuha
vivian
astra
miyabi
yanagi
i ran koleda for the longest time at the start. technically kot and billy with fanged metal might have some small potential. i don't think pulchra is great but i also just such with her
>>533936529There literally are. Filthy warehouses full of filthy Indians sitting at benches of filthy computers or smartphones acting as a mouthpiece for whatever opinion you want artificially inflated.
>>533936529Why would you ever bother paying people to post on 4chan though? There are like 300 people AT MOST posting here each day
>>533935739soukaku
if you tell her there's cream in there
>>533936529Indian on the internet is either : Scamming old people, shitting on something for gift cards, asking women for bobs and vagene or giving medicine lessons (rare).
>>533937157If you tell her that she's just gonna bite your dick dumbass
all you need to do is buff future mindscapes such that M2 teams are on par or better than Jane/Alice from now on
surely this wont cause any problems going forward
>>533930327He's retarded, pay no mind
RRAT bros don't roll Alice.
She won't enhance rrat, she turns rrat into Rina.
>>533937373Or... hear me out... swap M2 to M6
>>533937513Don't worry I didn't roll yuzuha either, still going with seth + whoever
>>533937552I've been saying this for like 2 threads. Everyone is shitting themselves but the answer is obvious.
>>533925124In addition to being an Idol and a prostitute, she's also OnlyFans model
This is honestly what I was afraid of back in Alice's beta when they reworked her 5 times. Powercreep isn't always intentional (like mibibi), sometimes it's accidental (like what appears to have happened here) yet both are equally bad. I have similar concerns with how the current beta is going desu.
>>533926339do i /need/ the wengine?
ZZZ doesn't have powercreep, because it doesn't have PvP
you either clear or you don't
>>533938049what I'm getting from this fiasco is DPS with support capabities are the way
meaning Seed and Orphie will be OP
>>533938049Do they not allow all previous characters be playable in the beta? Because something like this would be easily caught if they let the beta testers use all old characters + new characters.
>>533938085Do you love her? If you're a soulless metapuller, just skip the engine. Pleb.
>>533938085yes, it makes her hair sparkle very nicely (and reach the maximum buff power)
you will be forever bricked if you miss it
>>533938049ZZZ player count is not growing the only way they can get more money from current players is powercreep.
>>533938380>Seed and Orphie will be OPWTF, bro?!
eos confirmed, i'm going back to [game that raiders come from]
>>533937513that's true, she enhances the bunny and turns her into miyabi (for now)
>>533938534the devs make money the same way they always so
monthly 5$ from value payers
swimsuits to incentive you to become a value payer
and whales who will buy out the shop regardless of what's in it
Let's be real, people are only mad because their Miyabi is no longer top dog.
>>533934275I want to pull her and make her future proof for at least the next region for physical content, do you think I should get Yuzuha's WEngine or just Alice's WEngine? I already pulled Yuzuha just for her
Let's be real, go back to where you came from.
Let's be real, people are only mad because she has a scooter and you don't
Let's be real, we all love trigger here
Let's be real, Koleda looks really rapeable.
>>533936779Why is my mouth watering suddenly!?
Let's be real, Corin is asking for it.
Why doesn't Inter-knot work fix your website reeeeee
>>533939617Yiu have good taste
Lets be real, no one should have doubted la rata
>>533939669it ran like yesterday
i'm guessing there's too much traffic
>>533931175How? In her own planet with a lot of shilling she fucking lost to edgy pink Anby
>>533939970post more new chibis
What is this Yuzuha parry thing I'm hearing about? I'm just swapping her in and EX'ing with he like Panda.
>>533933198Maybe it wasn't just her ass. I've spent too much time searching for the pic I thought I remembered, but to no avail. Maybe it was this pic after all.
>>533940454https://zenless-zone-zero.fandom.com/wiki/Ukinami_Yuzuha#Basic_Attack
Hold Basic Attack to activate:
Enter a defensive stance for up to 1.5 seconds. If hit during this time, parry the attack and inflict massive Daze against the attacking enemy.
Successfully parrying an attack gains 1 Sugar Points.
Character is invulnerable when successfully parrying.
i hear it can interrupt some boss combos, like one of shadow jane's, but i haven't tested it
Not many people know this, but the thiren species Orphie belongs to has sexual aggression related to their horn shape and length.
>if they point upward, the specimen is horny 33% of the time
>if they point backward, 67%
>if they point downward, 100%
>if they complete the full loop back to forward, no one has ever survived mating with one and data is inconclusive
>12 cost Alice team is outperforming Miyabi full cost BiS team
the drama is coming
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All characters on the field at the same time will make other teams feel weird.
What does a top 1% Yuzuha build on Interknot Network look like?
>>533940851Coming? It's been here, you're just late
>>533926945east asian gacha players have a history of fabricating dramas, so the devs would issue compensations in the form of free rolls
not even they take themselves seriously
>>533940961>1% Yuzuha build on Interknotfor some reason they all use Cradle instead of her wengine
>>533940961probably looks stupid because they don't count anomaly proficiency as an important stat for her
>>533940830orphie is hornie 200% of the time ?!
now that's some deep lore
>>533940872it will make switching annoying
>Is this considered a 12 cost team?
>>533941109>anomaly proficiency>on yuzuhahttps://zenless-zone-zero.fandom.com/wiki/Ukinami_Yuzuha#Basic_Attack
>Sugarburst Sparkles does not contribute its accumulated Attribute Anomaly Buildup toward Anomaly DMG calculation.
>>533940851Miyabi's team can still get stronger by replacing Soukaku. They need to powercreep Miyabi to get Miyabi fags to roll for a character to buff her.
>>533940830My headcanon is that the elves/fairy-types are peak cybermancers and tech-wizards in the setting, Orphie is part of this same subspecies as the HIA NPCs, the horns are actually just some kind of neural interface cybernetics for sharing body with Magus.
Does anyone think there's too much skill expression in this game for powercreep to be really an issue?
>The original CC that posted the M2W1 Mono Phys 54s run posted an apology saying that he actually used W5 signature Wengines on Alice and Jane claimed it was W1. His reasoning was that it he knew it was achievable with W1 but wanted to get the run out first for clout and traffic.
>Since that run was the run that sparked the entire conversation on M2W1 Mono Phys, the CN community is pretty heated now.
>So far, other CCs (with more followers) testing on this matter (the ones I've posted in this sub) don't seem to have anything wrong yet. So the general conclusion regarding the power level still seems to be correct.
>Nonetheless, this incident has caused a pretty big trust crisis in the community. Every CC run now is getting closely examined and they are asking CCs to post Wengine refinement levels and disk drives with no cuts.
The really broken team was m2w5, remember CCs are snakes no matter the country
>>533941870Please read what you copy and paste and don't come back.
>>533941703Yes but some people dont want to learn the game and only want to complain
>>533941870Typical speedrunner shit.
>>533942051I'll stay here and you will seethe about it
>>533941703that mongorian guy that makes videos thinks so, personally i've been clearing shiyu 7 with 2 characters, people clearing with billy and shit...
>best jane team make her an off field
Lmao that's fucked up
>>533942429not my problem, wuwajeet
>>533941870This seems to be a newer run by a different CC
>m2w1 Alice - m2w0 Yuzuha (cradle) - m2w0 Jane (gemini)59s Miasma Fiend
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1W1tuzDEwg/
>>533941870>CN CC>CN communisumty fake outrage>"remember CCs are snakes no matter the country" = you're CN yourself
>>533942778no clue, it prompted me as soon as i logged in
i'm on EU and win11, don't know what the discrepancy would be
>>533942781You'll die for our sins, right bunny lovers?
>>533943010both are WiseCOCK property
>>533939574Imagine the double team...
>>533943119Why are you so obsessed with Wise's cock
>>533942781Spliced runs in my ZZZ? NYOOOOOOOOO EOS
Isn't this clown boss essentially neutral weakness against ether since it has ether res on top of the shiyu buffs being ether res down? My Shifu bruteforced it easily as a duo with Qingyi.
>>533943258nice projection yuritroon
every girl is for WiseCHAD
Qingyi-nicole-zhu 2:20 on shiyu 7 now is it skill issue or too much hp
>>533943432I didn't care about idols at all, but her in-game model is so cute that I might just have to roll...
>>533941870>pretending whether W1 or W5 makes any fucking difference when comparing 20 cost to 40 cost
>>533943986>M-Melt-PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAPWiseCHAD property
hmph
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>>533939970her cheeks are so pinchable
huh?
how come it's a new week but the yamcha 5000 coins didn't reset?
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>>533941313Nice job! Really your first? You have a decent amount of time extra. I would think someone's first Shiyu 7 clear would have less than a min extra left.
I am the most powerful ZZZ
>>533944302it's every two weeks
>>533941313Gj love seeing Piper.
Shifu swimsuit next year needed
>>533944308keep posting headcanon pics Yuritroon lmao
Harem Hetero gacha
>>533944316Yuzuha saved my Piper
Lighter was caught raping minors again
>>533936924Oh it's yixuan. What a slut.
...
Wait a minute.
>>533944969you can make her future proof forever by pulling Mindscapes, Signature etc
>>533939139Alice w engine
>>533944969Alice engine, Yuzuha copes fantastically with Cradle and Kaboom
>>533945265Mindscapes are out of the picture considering Seed's feet look way too attractive for my penis, and the fucking idols are apparently just around the corner too, fuck, I have 25 thousand polychromes and it feels like chump change in this game because of all the hot characters
>>533945331>>533945376>>533945378Cool, must be a pretty good engine, I'm excited to see how she'll look with the skin and the engine combined
Wise sits in the corner of the room while I rape Belle
>>533945078Between Yuzuha and the whole Chinese melt down with Alice, I'm just reminded how much I love the rat https://litter.catbox.moe/t35sjhvy84flld4b.png
>>533945580>holding hands>it is ca-PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
>>533944308He has an important mission to show those yuritrannies what's what
>>533945793post a clearer quality
JANE M2 RERUN FUCKING WHEN
If you're posting porn at least post a good one
>>533946196Never again now that the whales are upset.
https://litter.catbox.moe/k99vrz1wmq9pm0z6.mp4
>>533945580stop evading spam filters, faggot
>faggots chasing the meta
You've already lost.
>>533946196Welp, I have M1W1 Jane so I guess I'm grabbing another rata copy whenever she reruns just to have this broken ass team for the lols.
God I love baby feet to suck on
Y'all - Self *clap* Pleasure *clap* Is *clap* Not *clap* Gay
Guys is this good for M2 rata
>>533926342 (me)
How good is the shark maid, worth to reroll for her? I listened to her song and fell in love with her voice.
I boughted yuzuha/alice skins just for the feet but I'm skipping seed
>>533946892Fuck off wujeet
thx
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>>533946847Hell no, my M0 Rat gets similar numbers
>>533945649understandable
>>533947119but seth and lucy.......
>>533946860She isn't very good anymore. Passable. She can do it, especially if you use newer supports.
It's not like you could reroll for her in a while anyways.
>>533946832Zhu Yuan is made to be cuddled with me
Iโm so excited for yanagi bwos
>>533947132>Covered hands>Naked feetWhat's wrong this this girl?
>>533947132I don't even like feet and I still want her, this game's designs are really strong, they get the closest to blue archive's out of all gachas I think
The next time the rat comes, I'm going to M2 and W1 her.
>>533947360We love Nagi here
>>533946695Speak up queen!
>>533947401>shoes>naked handsSame thing. It's just harder to do things with gloves.
>>533947287Well, let me try with Seth and Lucy which neither of which are well built and let me see what I can get.
>>533947535>Perfect ass, prefect pussy teasing you>No, you're unworthy, you can only use my feet
will zhao be a cnnuy or lolibaba
place your bets
What time is Alice banner up for NA?
>>533947360be sure to play her hypercarry
>>533948095Here's her JP VA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPwFJPqEETc
>>533946196if they let this dumb powercreep pass without nerfing Alice ZZZ is fucking doomed
>>533949102NTA but I recently tried Yanagi Burnice and Yuzuha and I really didn't have a good time, am I supposed to use Vivian instead?
Why the fuck astra is singing in chinese
>>533949232>ZZZ is fucking doomedJust like everytime the game was doomed beforefuck off with this shit
>>533948095It could be either one and I would be happy
>>533947407>this game's designs are really strongthat's why this game is making so much money right? oh wait
raiden xpy void hunter + jane rerun
here is your higest selling banner of 2025
>>533949558How Making 20 mil every month on mobile alone is bad
>>533949558That would be because its hoyo's most fan-servicey game that is trying to capture a new audience, all of hoyo's other games pander to zoomers that start pissing themselves whenever a female character likes the male protagonist, its a sudden and new direction and I think its going quite well even if its not their top earner, I don't want it to be, in order to be the top earner you need to do boring garbage like what HSR and Genshin do all the time.
>>533949793>buh-buh-buhpost sensor tower so I can laugh, cucky
>>533949242I don't have Bibian... nor Burnice. I play with Torigah and Astra. It's just more fun than when paired with Meebs desu.
>>533949878its funny how instead of playing your game (which does worse than zenless so idk why you're dooming zenless' numbers lmao) you post here. curious.
>>533949878Here you can have this (you)
>>533949306because she's... uhh.. she's... uhhhhhh.. she's chinese
>>533949941>Yanagi with Trigger and AstraThat's surprising, and you're clearing the endgame just fine with it? do you have mindscapes or Wengines?
>>533949242Nagi is very flexible. When you use her as main DPS like in your case, the other agent is just there to apply attribute anomaly and come back to Yanagi to cash in on disorders When you use her as secondary, she can trigger disorder on demand to refill Miyabi's blue orbs
>>533950091check the how the fate collab did, cucky
>>533950363yeah yeah, anyway check out this qingyi
if alice want to be paired with jane
and yuzuha wants to be paired with these 2..
what was the point of vivian???
>>533950230Yeah, I always thought she was great but in my experience I could never find someone that truly goes well with her outside of Miyabi, that could just be that I lack Anomaly units though, I practically only have Burnice and Yuzuha, I will be pulling Alice though
>>533950751i hope she still has big sexy tits
>>533950751Total hag death
>>533950647Anon, it's called a mono physical team for a reason. Vivian+ Yuzuha is just the premium anomaly wheelchair that makes any standard anomaly untit clear
>>533950751Evelyn remains better unless they change Lucia's design to show off more ass
>>533950751Next update she will become flat and Lucy size
>>533950751Don't ruin her. She's meant to ruin me.
>>533949785>raiden xpy void hunter + jane rerunWe already had our Raiden expy xis.
>>533950751GIVE ME BACK MY HAG
if i dont have jane who's the best third for yuz and alice? I have every other s rank except for lighter and hugo, i just ran out of polys for jane and didnt want to swipe
I'm about to miss out on Yuzu engine.....
>>533950647>what was the point of vivian???Can your Mibibi get 54K without Vivian?
>>533950751WATERKUMA IS GETTING HIS REVENGE ON THE BIG TITTY DEV! FOR TURNING ALL THE LOLIS INTO BIG TITS HE WILL NOW TURN THE BIGGEST TITTUS INTO A LOLI! AIEEEEEEEE!!!!!
>>533951249Yanagi or Vivian
>>533951368Hate to break it to you but Hebe โ Loli.
>>533950751i'm fine with a nun at any size
i just hope they don't censor her cross
>>533950647If your Alice and Yuzuha are M0, just use Vivian/Nicole
If your Alice is M2 and Yuzuha M1/2, consider M2 Jane
just may as well call the game alice zone zero if they aren't nerfing this unintended interaction
>>533951353Why would I want to get 54k? I don't get any extra rewards for that right?
>>533951601Go back to where you came from
>>533951254dw, bro
she'll be back in 5 to 8 months anyway
>>533951643>Why would I want to get 54k?Why would I want Alice then?
>>533951254UHHHH bwo!?!?!?!? Your kaboom!?
>>533951601>Need M2 on at least 2 characters for it to work
>>533951601>AIIIIIEEEEEEE PLS NERF AGENTS IN MY PVE GAME AAAAA SAVE ME NIGGERMAN!!!!!
>>533952019>randomly press buttons>do more damage than a m6w5 miyabi following perfect rotationsdefend this
They aint afraid of no ghosts
>>533950215Yes. Nagi and Trigger have their sigs, no mindscapes... my Yuzuha isn't built yet so I don't know how much she improves if at all.
Nagi + Meebs + Yuzu is probably the best team if you care too much about clear time but like I said, I prefer running them as hypercarries.
Other /zzz/ is perma down so now I have to crawl back to 4chan...
I apologize for betraying you /zzz/ sama.
>>533950751fuck yeah, death to hags and buttwhores.
>>533952119Yes? And? You Miyakeks really think shes gonna be relevant till the end of time.
>>533952119I'm still not rolling anyone from patch 2.1.
>>533952019it's serious this time, CN whales does not fuck around they are pissed
>>533952521Single player game btw
>>533952509I will never roll homo pandering patches.
>>533952406Why the fuck are Hags in the same category of worms?? Hags are infinitely better than any worm agent
how are you playing physical anomaly in 2.1?
https://poal.me/qsyl5w
>https://poal.me/qsyl5w
https://poal.me/qsyl5w
>>533952681raider trying to fabricate drama
>>533952521>they are pissedIt sounds like CNs are happy and having fun.
But you have an agnda of making it look like they are seething. Why are you like this?
>>533925917Go finish your summer event in zzz!!! U had an entire week to do it yet u spent all day sleeping and reading manga!!!
>>533952375welcome home, bro
>>533953367literally me except im black
>>533953521Post bbc or gtfo
>>533953367>that power outleta hotel in thailand?
This alice shit feels so forced you need like m2 jane and alice to have this hyper broken version of the team, why even care if you're not a whale
>>533953924Because the whales care. They will kill all synergy so that their precious m6w5 mibibi stays on top.
people who spend money are the reason this game is up and free
>>533953750this chart is incorrect
>>533953924but we don't care though
and it is forced
the CN playerbase are trying to stir up an outrage so the devs would give out 100 poly as an apology
it's honestly just pathetic
>>533953924I think people are just having fun talking about it but it's not a big deal
>>533953924You'd care if you're not a whale because it's possible that this team just existing could cause crazy powercreep for the rest of the cast / future characters.
>>533954175we've known since forever that miyabi will be even stronger as soon as another anomaly agent drops
people have been using soukaku as a cope anomaly in the mono ice build to deal the highest dmg in DA
miyabi will be back to the top in no time, and i don't even care about any of this
>>533954175You are delusional, this was an accidental interaction, stop trying to doompost this shit you retard
Yanagi canonically raps and learned how to twerk by watching bangboos
>>533954098most people spend on the monthly 5$ because it's the highest value
they can absolutely afford an M2 if they wanted to have a strong team
>>533954482Thank you for this factoid ai sloppa anon
>>533954482Yanagi is pure and virgin
>>533954482heard you the first time, buck broken cuck
If they do nerf alice before she's out when we will know that? Just when the banner is live?
>>533954482https://files.catbox.moe/46luie.webm
https://files.catbox.moe/biziez.webm
>>533954837alice is fine
jane is the one who need to be nerfed
>>533926339>Be Alice>Middle of rabbit thiren breeding season>Constantly sitting at a 9/10 horny>Get asked to go on fishing trip with best friend>She's constantly yelling 'Take my bait!' at the fish>'Take my bait' why does she keep saying that>Horny bunny brain thinks the way she says bait sounds like masturbate>'Take my masturbate'>Can't stop thinking about her shlicking you>9 goes to a 10>Drop fishing rod in water>Didn't realize a fish was on the line>Rod disappears underwater>Tfw it's going to be like this all summer
Neko canonically purrs and learned how to twerk by grinding on my lap
>>533954942they can't change Jane anymore
>>533954837That or on day one. The "nerf" is going to be swapping mindscape 2 for Alice with M4 or M6. That way the players need to invest more to get to the crazy numbers
>>533954837pretty sure those "Content Creators" are leakers.
pretty we're not supposed to know anything about Alice's kit before release.
pretty sure those testers / leakers have made the devs aware of this interaction, and they've either decided to nerf it or not
>>533954942You're delusional if you think they're going to nerf Jane. Tey're not nerfing an existing character on the roster
>>533954942i think there might be laws in some countries against nerfing characters that were already on gacha
remember hearing about it
>>533954429I never claimed it was on purpose retard. If it's left in the game, people will flock to it for ez wins. Spamming it on anything and everything to where changes will be made to the bosses/enemies/mechanics of the game. Same thing happened with Miyabi, everyone got her, everyone has been spamming her on any type of content cause she even destroys ice resistant content. And now we have anomaly buildup nerf, newest bosses being unfreezeable (Miasma Priest / Fiend), higher cap on damage resistance 40% instead of the usual 20% and much more. More things to come to nerf Miyabi and if that Jane/Alice interaction stays in the game you can bet your ass that shit will happen because of it.
>>533928817>This is a serious issue that could determine the fate of game's future.You keep saying that, and no matter how many times you do it it won't be true.
> Alice's special assault now does a fraction of the regular assault damage instead of a one to one copy
> M2 is replaced or moved up
> The devs will forever have to take the rat into consideration when building phys anomaly agents
There, I fixed the issue.
>mfw my account was rata pilled early on and got m1 rata and her wengine in just 11 pulls
I had no idea how much that was going to pay off
If nerfs happen or not we will only see it in 2 days when asian bros get access to her banner
>>533956340there's no need to nerf anyone desu
>"people will roll 6 S rank physical anomaly agents and 2 S rank physical anomaly w-engines"
>"aNd ThEn ThEy WiLl ClEaR tHiNgS !!11"
oh, the humanity
>>533956442>Not m2Sorry to say but it's a brick anon
It's funny watching u pajeets discuss this fake drama when mihomo is just gonna change 1 bit value and poof.
Hoshimi Miyabi is the prettiest ZZZ
>alice comes out untouched
>general playerbase takes notice of the broken interaction
>everyone pulls and make the game a joke
>mihoyo can't nerf her after release or people will sue
>if they implement mechanics to lessen her power by gimping every anomaly character will leave a sour taste in the playerbase making everyone quit
this has to be adressed fast otherwise it will turn into a lose/lose sceneario for our gmae
>>533956672These discussions are better than any shitpost about other games, at least everyone is talking about zzz
>>533956784pretty sure they work well together though
>>533956601Based Piper bro, but this mental illness isn't about clearing, it's about the ranking system at 9 stars.
i'm gonna use yuzuha, alice and pulchra
Assuming a worst case scenario
>540 = AliceM2
>540 = JaneM2
>180 = Yuzuha
Total = 1260 Pulls
6480 monochromes = 40.5 pulls = 2.46 USD per pull
Total team cost = 3,099.60 USD
wait until you retards find out what an M1 astra and M2 lighter can do for fire/ice dps. do you people think mindscapes are balanced equally? where's the meltdown for ellen and zhu getting less power from their M6 than jane gets from her M2 (this was true back in 1.1, btw). what a hilarious narrative.
M6W5 Miyabi owner here. It's not that big of a deal, this is already a powercreep game judging from shiyu and DA inflation being absurdly fast like 5% per cycle. And at least Miyabi lost to the Assault duo who are actual characters. Losing to Delusion trash would have been humiliating for the game as a whole.
>>533956784noooooo stuff like this is my weakness
>>533956913Problem is the chink whales having a melt6 about this shit,,chance of devs,caving to them is pretty high
>>533956905You guys told me this team was F2P...
>>533933591i would feast on anything Rina cooks for me just to make her happy.
>>533956837Whoa... it's the strongest three...! I kneel!!!
>>533956784she was strike one.
Ill keep spamming the surveys until they buff her or i quit.
>pulling for meta instead of pulling for your wife
>>533957461Do a barrel roll
>>533956845Agreed. This is ten times more interesting than the forced Yuri vs Wise, all males agents must die, sales posting, or sucking china's dick conversation that usually happens.
>>533957514>regular woman:|
>regular woman, animal ears:o
>Yixuans kit is pretty complex and has a lot of optimizations
>Yuzuha unbricks anomalies and has a fun parry
>Alice has the first directional input since... Nicole?
>Fufu
This season seems fun so far. No clue what Seed and Orphie do tho
>>533957958>Alice has the first directional input since... Nicole?What?
why does alice keep switching out her swords?
>>533956684She's not as pretty as Pulchra
>>533958016Alice has two separate EX inputs
forward + EX and backwards/neutral + EX
Nicole has 360 + EX
>>533957987Jane is so talented
>>533957987impressive, la Rata, but more bunnie agents are on the way
this is our game now
>>533927892welcome back phillip j fry...
>>533958114the sped up missiles are so awkward looking
>>533958114the billy x grace ships are so over
>>533957987This is a hamster.
Stop comparing it to a disgusting rat like Jane.
why did seed chop her limbs off
WTF I just read this https://www.reddit.com/r/ZZZ_Discussion/comments/1mhcqoy/pretty_big_scandal_in_the_cn_zzz_scene_the/
how is this allowed as a content creator with exclusive access to the cc server to go ahead and post videos that spreads misinfo? Doesn't hoyo in CN crackdown on stuff like this?
>content creator
why you faggots call streamers like that. you already have a proper, working and pretty short word for them "streamer". why make up some bullshit that 2 times longer and not even true?
>>533958970Someone already beat you to it
Is /zzz/ ready for the Physical Dynasty?
>>533958970Kys no one cares + youre brown.
tenor
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>>533958970wow, this is crazy!
eos soon! i'm going back to [insert game similar to zzz here]
>>533959203What if they are not in fact live streaming and they create a variety of content in different formats?
>>533959273I look forward to how the devs will handle it
>>533959273Unbothered. Moisturized. Happy. In My Lane. Focused. Flourishing.
>>533959637God, I love her but that room is too clean for her
The only Phys agent I'm pulling is rupter lucia
I'm starting to think there was some merit to Saintontas's words.
>>533959637I look and act like this
After looking around it looks more like cnfags are shitposting about the alice team than having a melty
>>533959790>>533959838imagine wasting your day, no, your life, doomposting
Does this jane alice yuzuha meme still work for m0 or is jane better off being a gothic lolita instead?
Can somebody fix THAT thing?
>>533960060M2 has a special effect that double the assault damage or something and alice can force an assault
from what i've gathered at a glance. so no, it doesn't work
>>533959838That guy has a "mongorian beef" with ZZZ KEK
>>533960060M2 Jane is the linchpin. M2 Alice is what drives it into overdrive
>alice alice alice alice jane alice alice
but I'm pulling for nagi tho?
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>>533960294Shishou is so wise...
>>533949232the only doomed one is you, what kinda loser spergs out 24/7 in a thread for a game he doesn't play just to be a pest lol
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>>533960060ignore the retards, the team still works at M0 and is quite strong for phys weak content. it's just not going to be the meta shattering melty causing performance that M2 jane gives.
>>533960274based salaryman
WAIT SO YOU NEED TO HAVE WHALED TO GET THIS SHIT TO WORK? AND JANE ISN'T EVEN ON THE BANNER. SO HOW DOES THIS SHIT MATTER RIGHT NOW WHEN YOU CAN'T DO THE TEAM???
>>533956340Anon please. Vivian does exactly the same as Rat does, but for EVERY SINGLE anomaly out there.
This isn't broken. At all.
Bloom is about 50% damage of an assault. This is roughly the same as Rat adds, but instead of per assault, it's per anomaly and ex, as long as you have feathers. And yes, Vivian dupes also improve this by as much as Rat's dupes do. A little more even.
They both have their advantages and disadvantages. But the biggest reason to Rat is actually that she'd be useless otherwise, and if you have an m2 rat, you get a very good boost by having Alice.
>>533960294Whoever made this should of use the big boobs one.
> Walk in room
> See this
What is your next move, Anon?
>>533960274She twerks in hollow zero, use it wisely.
>>533960294Why is she doing that hand gesture? Does she likes Spider-man?
>>533949878lmfao
The irony of a doomtroon loser like you calling anyone cucky
>>533960498360 and walk away
>>533960294T-thanks Shifu
>>533960498fuck her boots
>>533960274I need a sagger wife so much...
>>533960498MATING SHUN GOKU SATSU
>>533960498tell her to take her dirty ass shoes off the bed
>>533960294Is that how feng shui works
>>533958970oh YESS I'm GONNA invest ALL into ONE TEAM so I CAN OVERKILL JUST ONE SIDE OF DA SHIYU AND TELL EVERYONE ELSE THEY SUCK HAHAHAHHAAHHHAHHAHA
>>533952885I will soon!! Why dont you play Wuwa or something else instead of shitposting all day on YYZ!!!
>>533960274i only have yixuan miyabi and vivian but im pulling her
>>533960498Creampie her asshole
>>533960854Feng Shui is basically minmaxing
>>533960294her limp hand gesture is very eroi for some reason... and yeah like the other anon said they shouldve used the REAL shifu image.
>>533961021Miyabi/Vivian and Nagi is a great team.
>>533960274I don't lie JKs and would rather pull for hags
>>533960498Look around for possible threats, use her tail blade to cut those bindings and ask what happened.
>>533960854you are courting death...
>>533960498Thank her for the meal
>>533960027unsymmetrical uggo *snap*
>>533960498OOOOH SHIT! A RAT!
>>533961367> Seth spotted
https://files.catbox.moe/aixzbx.mp4
>>533960027They wont see anything wrong with it until they're being kicked out of the house and their life is utterly over.
The autobattler is surprisingly fun. Are there any games like this but more fleshed out?
gyaru Belle when the summer event ends
trust
If i only care about Jane is there any reason why i shouldn't pull Alice over Vivian rerun?
>>533961596FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>533961746Because Vivian is DOGSHIT?
>>533961596Sexy rat you got there
>>533961661are you joking?
teamfight tactics
>>533961661teamfight tactics that it's a direct ripoff from?
>>533961661Caveman-sama...
>>533961661the genre is called "autochess", there's a ton out there
liberals: im pulling alice!
conservatives: im pulling yanagi!
me: m6 seth woohoo yippeeee!!!!
Can you use shirodashi to make a tempura dipping sauce?
>>533961746It might be funny, but for Rat itself, Alice is indeed better than Vivian.
For Alice Vivian is a bit better, but Rat is still very good.
[Concerning] i still did not receive my paycheck
>>533962108I am not gay but I would fool around with that catboy.
>>533962327Pay your fucking AI Chatbot
>>533962092Why the fuck is it called autoCHESS if it has nothing to do with chess whatsoever?
>>533960991The only one that is shitposting all day here is you with your YYZ!!!! Now go eat your supper!!! Is it another home made pizza???
>>533962808it does though
remember when everyone was hoping for cultivationkino in 2.x and now we have the new event mocking it and its 4000 year long culture
why are modern devs afraid of sincerity? can no trope be played straight anymore?
>>533962808Piper probably saw the birth of the internet, like me.
>>533962987Bro? Your 2.0?
Remember the day when minty and his chaser got 3 day banned?
>>533962601This is AI? The ingredients are correct, at least for some variant but the proportions seem off. You want the dashi portion to be 2/3 of the total, 1:1 mixing ratio of dashi stock and water seems quite heavy on the dashi, should be something like 1:3-4. The 1/3 rest should be something called Kaeshi, which I recall being mirin and low-sodium onions sauce in 1:2 ratio.
>>533963020have you played tft?
>>533963231sometimes mods remember to do their job and everything thats even slightly offtopic
Just started playing, spent 30 rolls on Yuzuha and did not get shit, might kill myself at this point.
>>533963394yeap, from duckduckgo
i don't know the first thing about cooking this
>>533963528you should quit if youre suicidal after 30
you need ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY rolls to guarantee a character
>>533963528>30 rollsBabby numbers. Anything better than 60 rolls for S-roll by average and every third S-roll leading to kot is the devs being generous (trying to addict you).
>>533963528You're supposed to be strategic with your resources. Be patient, save up, and look out for upcoming characters you like and plan accordingly. This way you'll always be able to get who you want.
>>533963850*SNIFF SNIFFFFFF*
More than 4 week left until SEED...
>out of everything Jane is the one who brought a busted comp
holy kino
>>533964258>becomes an eq bot in said teamDon't know how to feel about that
>>533963924i like yuzuha, i have 2 days to get her, no time to be patient, I was hoping for more free shit since I just started playing since what i got was not enough
disgusted that there are 3dpd enjoyers here. We only like anime girls in this bitch. Stop posting filthy JAV
>>533964416This fag does not speak for us
>>5339641707 weeks patch is unironically killing the game what the fuck were the devs thinking
Long ass thread, hey raidfags itโs almost like not one single soul gives one single fuck about the whale Jane shit youโve been spamming the past few days
>>533964541More time to save is a good thing.
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Pan yinhu is absolutely broken in this gamemode
>>533964829>cutting out UIDwe donโt bite sis
Hugod
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>>533964952Thanks, I could never unsee it from now on. Is hugo our official trans character btw?
https://files.catbox.moe/fr7dht.png
https://files.catbox.moe/9292oe.png
>>533964258This will happen regularly with anomalies i feel because for some reason they gave most of them completely busted numbers and buffing potential.
This is why i don't understand how they are treating Orpheus and most likely will watch Seed new cool yet hardly abusable buff get butchered.
Meanwhile anomalies, vivian just randomly add gigantic burst of damage because huh.... she just does. Jane? Now your phys anomalies will forever get busted multipliers because huh... she just does.
>>533965414genshin wonโฆ
what is the tldr of how to play yanagi?
>>533965498>how they are treating OrpheusOrpheus is quite literally the Vivian of aftershock comps? That she's niche doesn't make her bad
Twins. Start diggin in yo butt.
>>533965414Even Wise cant resist the pull of white women...
>>533965658dude spam ex lmao
btw you should be turning sugarburst sparkles into shock and not frost
Lucy
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>>533965139Some Fag is going around asking for everyones UID, claiming they are making a guild. I think they might just be collecting UID to report people for using mods
>>533965883Then don't use mods fagtron?
>>533966047but i like mods
>>5339656581. Apply anomaly with miyabi basics and EX,
2- Once you get full stacks do Shimotsuki,
3. Switch to yanagi while that happens and EX until miyabi have full stacks again
4. Switch to Miyabi and go back to 2.
>>533963528I got 180 pulls in 11 days for Ju Fufu, I started playing for her.
>>533967090>I started playing for her.Same basically. I played though everything I could and spent everything to get her. Finally got her last minute.