Hire Fans Edition
>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/07-29-2025-update.72760/
>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/
>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/
>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be autistic.
>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.
Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlocked.wiki/
https://liquipedia.net/deadlock/
>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1yfPHJsMrKcg_8wqa95qu0sOFxRdzKLF_eUWOZX7RLHc
>Unofficial Stat Trackerhttps://statlocker.gg/
Threadlocked:
>>533442760
this is now officially an Ivy thread. Gargoyles in general are also allowed to be posted
>>533957042yobi hasn't said crap about it and I quote:
>we'll let you know when its very close and are able to predict the date.
Deadlock patch coming out Thursday this week. The first visual novel featuring Lady Geist will be released in-game alongside the new heroes and will give you a cool dynamo skin where hes wearing a suit and tie once you finish reading it and complete all possible paths. Also the orb of expectation leaks are a psyop by the experimental discord server to make fun of you all.
>>533958009>orb of expectation leakstf is that?
I don't want release date leaks, I want kit leaks dammit, what do they DO
following the last thread i made the worst hero concept on this board to date
~12 bullets double revolver nigga that holds both revolvers in the same hand, low weapon range, medium base attack time.
1st: Jumps up to target location on a wall, Reactivate ability to jump to a new target location on the ground and deal damage in an area there. 80(+1x spirit) damage (25s CD), jump range: 20m, radius: 12m.
1: -7s cooldown.
2: +10m jump range.
5: Knocks enemies in the landing location up in the air for 0.5 seconds.
2nd: Attaches a small demon on an enemy, disarming them for up to 4 seconds. The demon can be killed by gun damage from the enemies allies or 2 light melees (1 heavy melee) (30s CD), range: 15m.
1: +50% increased demon hp.
2: +25 (+0.2x spirit) dps.
5: Slows attached enemy by 40%.
3rd: Hitting an enemy for 4 consecutive times gives you +20(+0.1x spirit)% fire rate for 3 seconds.
1: -1 consecutive shots.
2: +1.5ms for the duration.
5: Now also reveals the enemy through walls for the duration for you and your team.
Ultimate: Your bullet hits also passively deals 50% of your bullet damage to enemies in a cone behind any enemy hit by your bullets. Cone-radius scales with spirit. Active: Bullets that hit walls deal damage through walls in the same fashion for 4 seconds(120s CD).
1: Increased cone range by some amount.
2: -30s CD
5: +25% damage, added spirit scaling (0.25x spirit)% damage.
every single leak is fake unless proven otherwise
>>533956316>copied from prev thread cus I missed the new bread announcementThis looks like Calico 2.0 mechanics-wise, stagehands might be cancer in lane esp if they stack. I can imagine the bullshit cd + spirit builds with torment pulse, with the hands spam.
So expect either full tank or spirit spam, well that and once anyone gets capacitor he dies instantly.
I have a crack idea for him: make shadow dagger and ult point targeted ratehr than hero targeted. Blackout will allow to walk on the walls (just like shadow dagger allows to move through terrain in dota2) and ult will allow to set a beacon to teleport to (could introduce some limitation to the ult then, or allow it to target terrain as a T3 upgrade).
frank will be hilarious with a maxed out ult and the rejuv buff
post (you)r item concepts /dlg/ - https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/matador-tier-4-weapon-item.54882/
>garg thread>>533960134This is some lol of lesbians bullshit, dash + several number crunching on hit effects. I don't think the game needs more of that, we have a bunch of M1 fags already
>>533961037i actually haven't made any forum posts with item concepts because my ideas for them always feel lackluster
>>533961506More lackluster than stats + minor conditional effect which most items are?
Doubt anyones ideas will be viewed anyway, but I remember posting a suggestion to change rejuv, it wasn't looked at but new rejuv is somewhat like my suggestion, so feed the noosphere and maybe something will happen.
>>533961372never played league, just took some dota abilities and adapted to deadlock mechanics kek
>>533960864all sounds cool to me, it's all written theorycraft so maybe it'd suck, maybe OP, I have no clue really. but participating in the design process is really fun.
>>533961778>Doubt anyones ideas will be viewed anywaynah, they definitely have someone on the team monitoring both custom pages. if I had to guess, maybe they just take the item/ability ideas that look interesting to them and throw it into some big spreadsheet for kit creation behind the scenes
>>533961778well one of the ideas i had was something like a green reversed escalating exposure
>passive (0.75s cooldown): whenever you take spirit damage, gain a +5% spirit res buff, max stacks 10 and lasts 10 secondsidea being that it'd counter abilities like seven's cloud or ivy's vine that deal constant spirit damage instead of burst but it's a pretty stupid idea probably, either always dogshit or gigacancer to go against
does anyone have new vindicta portrait?
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The black woman of Valve unoriginality.
These are TWO different characters.
>>533963823>Retard who doesn't know what temp art is makes his daily retard post
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Support Ivy is fun!
it still makes me mad that this YEAR we have only had
>One map update (Dota gets these all the time)
>One "shop overhall" (Artpass, slot changes)
and dota2 still acts like deadlock is getting a ton of love from valve when they throw us a "Seven is 0.2% slower" and "Shiv now wiggles a bit less" updates
>>533968024for the better part of 5 months in 2024 there were updates every other week, what is this larp
>>533968024>acting like we're getting NOTHING when last year's updates were piddly and the shop overhaul update came with more new content than everything from the initial leak to december
anyone that isn't a tf2fag doesn't get to complain about lack of updates.
>>533969413you get new maps every 6 months quit crying
>>533961037one of my items made it into the game but I'm not telling you which one
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>>533967657I prio getting t2 stun and then t3 ult silence as soon as possible to make my catch stronger and then t2 tether and kudzu. Any order with the tether/kudzu is fine. I usually wind up going T3 tether after this. It feels like games are faster and demand strong push and sustain and this build helps that.
>3 times in one game i end up in a 1v4, literally leaving every enemy at 1/4th hp then dying because the second any opponent shows up my entire team dips instantly
>literally see 5 people walk away from fighting against just me alone with basically no health and my team just fucked off and let them capture rejuv instead of finishing them off
genuinely what the fuck else do you want from me game
>>533967657>buying green items>buying green items on Ivy instead of living on the edge, using 3 for clutch moments, dealing damage from a distance and running away with either a kill or aggroed low health enemies>buying green items
>>533970049Gun Ivy is strictly worse than her counterparts running the same budget. They repeatedly rape this character every time it tries to do something different.
>>533969890the velocity gun item? if not you, I remember that guy admitting he posted here
>>533969993this is a MOBA-wide problem, most people have to make a conscious decision to commit to a big teamfight and many of them refuse to because of things like K/D, "I haven't reached my big items yet!" or other stuff
>>533970372I started building this item for the placebo of it maybe marginally making a difference in securing souls. The fact it gave a consistent decent chunk of damage with no conditionals was nice too. It temporarily came back to bite me in the ass when the item was made into unusable dog shit and I had to start aiming without the extra bullet velocity.
>>533970573If you're not willing to limit test and occasionally fuck up you just stay mediocre. They won't realise that though. But at least their SPM is optimal. Never mind the fact they're gonna be the same rank a year from now.
>soul orb buffer increased to the point that your creeps are only denied if you're retarded
Why even bother keeping them in anymore
>>533969993>3 enemies chase me into my own jungle>They don't even have Zipline distance they are just straight up chasing>Chase goes on for 40 seconds>Not a single teammate pushes>Not a single teammate runs to me to peelThe only time I will ever go afk in base, these cunts don't deserve to win
>>533970779you have to be retarded to miss last hits in a traditional moba, it's a translation of the same mechanic
>>533969890I designed Ivy's current ult. I also put fourth the idea of her stone form dragging people to the ground. I had Ivy's ult adjusted several times through feedback. Faster explosion, going through thin surfaces. I pushed back against the gun damage nerfs and got it buffed back up. Then I stopped playing in December.
>>533970810>>Not a single teammate runs to me to peelthe funny part about this is that sometimes presence is all that matters. people chase kills they think are 4v1. but the instant they see back up is even present they start to have second thoughts. I've seen it countless times where I'll just show up and start shooting aggressively and the enemy team just gives up chasing instantly.
>>533971819less than 10% of the beta population even know what peel is and the idea that even showing up in the general area of a teammate is powerful enough to dissuade a losing fight or gank
>>533972065It's like the buckshot effect. You shoot off some buckshot and tell them to get the fuck off your lawn and they comply.
>>533968024it's literally your own fault for acting like valve's god gift to man and all their updates are TOTALLY worth the wait every time
meanwhile dotards knew the moment they pulled down the BP and stepped away from the international it was literally over for them
>>533961873Right, MK, Grimstroke, Troll, TA. But you just had to choose the most boring parts of their kits lol. Sorry pal, not a fan of this concept, given how shooting through the wall passive will only work with wallhacks anyway
>>533970921Last hits work differently in other mobas because your damage matters, dingaling bro
>>533972468damage matters because it effects the timing window, in deadlock it's projectile speed instead
>>533972659Except as I mentioned before the buffer makes it irrelevant, fucking retard.
>>533962284Anything which fucks over Pocket seems good to me
>>533972659genuinely when was the last time projectile speed affected more than one last hit in your match
>>533962245Are custom items/heroes even posted en-masse anymore? Valve should have more than enough manpower to quickly go over everything people suggest now since the playerbase shrinked so much. I remember Puck in Dota2 was a fan creation at first, would be really cool to see Valve actually aknowledging the forums and implementing a custom item/hero, with some credit provided.
>>533973218not as much, but there's a decent amount of new heroes still posted. the puck creator actually joined the forums and posted a bunch of kits for deadlock, the name escapes me atm
>>533973160I honestly wish they'd just standardize everyone's projectile speed and make it easier to deny.
>>533973386Maybe but it would probably really fuck over heroes like geist and mirage.
>>533973457That sounds like a positive thing.
>>533973386at this point projectile speed really seems like a fucking useless and pointless mechanic added in to just add bloat. i mean let's be fucking real, with the giant amount of fallofff this game has, what DOES it affect in a meaningful way? Talon's charged shot?
>>533973457I don't see why. They already almost have hitscan on their weapons.
>>533973386no. we must have over disparity of all things. next up are rail speed buckets, chance for gun to jam, tripping on stairs risk buckets, and of course the removal of dash jumping because its TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FASSST WOAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>533973624>movement is genuinely the one thing people universally liked about the game>WOAH BETTER NERF IT FOR HALF THE CAST!!>melee is the one system everyone agrees on it's really unique even if not everyone thinks it's good>WOAH BETTER MAKE IT DOGSHIT SO IT ISN'T A VIABLE PLAYSTYLE!!!i genuinely don't understand these devs
>try to make bebop ult build
>kill exactly 0 people with my ult even with lightning scroll
this thing is fucking useless
speaking of guns, I really wish they would buff the gunshot sound radius, it's honestly disturbing how they sound all muffled and low from like 15 feet away, and it drags me away from the experience every single time I notice this. I get they probably do this to make jungling a thing but why? wouldn't it be more fun to take the risk and have to steal camps as fast as possible before the enemies approach you? you could even use this to manipulate enemies
>>533973974ult bepop got gutted randomly one update, i think they heavily reduced its healing and it wasn't even in patch notes
>>533973382>the puck creator actually joined the forumsThe old parts of game history are still alive, you love to see it. Still no indication any of fan creations will make the cut.
I've scrolled past a bunch, most are dogshit, some are literally fetishposting, but there have to be diamonds in the rough.
>>533973974I told you dog, I double told you, you didn't listen BUT I TOLD YOU DOG
>>533973876Daily reminder that all movement nerfs were unnecessary and should be reverted.
>>533975507yeah, they should revert them and also add a speedster hero
>>533975961>speedster heromeaning? do you have an example?
leak pocket's new model in game cowards
>>533976038only thing I'm leaking is my cock inside your mom's butthole
>>533976223that's not very nice
>>533975961We have a lot of speed-oriented heroes as is, Vyper, Warden, Lash, whatever. I hate the new bucket update, I hate various run and sprint speed nerf across the board, those just make the game less fun.
>b-but good for muh macroFuck macro, go play Civ is you want it, there has to be a balance and whatever is happening to movespeed isnt it
>>533973974I want to fuck that cat
>>533975507The fuck are you acting smug about? I already knew ult bebop was trash, I'm just complaining about it
in my last 4 matches I had at least one teammate with a less than .8 kda, they were all losses. hard carrying seems impossible
>>533976038haven't they literally already done this? in the training map? you can see the full outfit there
>>533976027there's a few fast characters or items here and there in some games but they are never based entirely around using speed to your advantage, maintaining movement or as a part of your combo, they only give you speed as a side effect that they'll probably nerf 30 times in a row and call it a day like Smite's Mercury or league's zeri. Dota has Storm Spirit but if you use the one thing that allows him to go fast you'll just waste all your mana
It's specially disappointing that they haven't added anything like them to deadlock when there's already a bunch of movement mechanics and physics already. They could actually do Spider-Man's swinging drop kick work in this game and choose not to.
also I posted a hero idea that was definitely not a waste of my time:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/electroswing-glass-cannon-speedster-w-some-concept-art.9089/
They need to take all the dogshit grenade abilities and add knockback to them.
>>533963823>putting on black latex suit turns you into a niggerHE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
they actually need to rework assists. maybe move it back to the old system. getting an assist and cucking the soul split because you happened to be standing in 50m prox is gay and retarded
>>533981441then how you stop people from doing 5 v 5s for 40 minutes straight and then blaming others for not pushing?
>>533968774Sorry that I dont think "made useless item #34 00.2% less useless on Tuesday" is a """"update""""
>>533983105none of those biweekly updates were this hyperbolicaly uneventful
>>533957285I'm still a long way from getting her right cause she's hard to draw on model, but the designer did a beautiful job. Possibly the only bad thing is that the character can't act with facial expressions cause she's too bestial. I know that's the point of the character but I understand it's a hard sell. Sculpturally speaking she's beautiful.
Does anyone know who designed her or any concept art?
>>533984606>the character can't act with facial expressions because she's too bestialThat's why they've retouched her face for the model update and the monsterfuckers are in shambles.
>>533984769From a marketing standpoint they made the right choice. I can't blame 'em.
Did they actually release an updated model? Last I saw was the portrait where she looks like a cartoon mouse.
>>533985340Still haven't released the model, but there have been more leaks where characters are adopting the cartoony artstyle, so we're due for a wave of model updates soon.
>>533985771I bet the person who made Ivy look like an American Tail extra is the same who removed Vindicta's feet. It has to be the same person
>>533986125There's no way the footless vindicta model is real, the comparison shot shows the hair being exactly the same as the current, and we've already seen a version where the braid is fully modeled instead of being a retarded spiral thing. Not to mention there's already character interactions about her bare feet.
>>533986506>inb4 they give her crusty old Doc Martens
>>533956580 (OP)Dead dogshit valvedrone game.
Dead dogshit valvedrone general.
This dogshit game died before arrival.
Yoshi is nothing but a paycheck stealer.
If you still haven't uninstalled this garbage, you're a waste of oxygen and should kill yourself immediately.
How are a bunch of new characters going to make this game more fun when the base gameplay is being diluted patch by patch? Oh cool, I get to play as Punkgoat but the game sucks
>>533987371>the game is being diluted because tanks dash 20% slower than glass cannons! I can't outrun scout as heavy weapons guy!
>>533987595kill yourself valvedrone
>>533987694I'd rather kill myself than play whatever dead dogshit game you advocate for but are too insecure to tell anyone about.
I'm smarter than Yoshi and he should hire me because he's a fucking retard.
>>533987770of course the valvedrone thinks everyone is here to shill a game, nice projection you retarded faggot, just kill yourself already
>>533972659Soul orbs should have health, so slow firing guns aren't fucked
>>533988310>going on an imageboard for discussing video games>not here to talk about videogames, just to scream into the voidthen you should neck yourself for wasting your life to this extent
>every fun ability build gets GUTTED
At this point they need to remove items and ability tiers. It's just all gun builds except maybe one spirit build for a handful of the cast.
sinclair mains
is building spectral assistant viable?
spirit+firerate?
>>533988552>moves the goalposts>posts faggy cartoon imagehope you get raped and killed on live tv by a pack of pavement apes you retarded subhuman
>>533989158okay have a good night retard
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I think Deadlock is fun :)
>>533989238I accept your concession
Really enjoying all the seethe I'm seeing over the teleporter changes because you just know it's BROOLtards that never check their minimap whining about it
>WTF I CAN'T JUST LET MY LANES GET PUSHED UP AND HOLD W ON EVERYONE I SEE ALL THE TIME ANYMORE THIS GAME SUCKS!!!
Glad to see a change to the game that actually makes it less casualized
>>533989394no one cares lil bro this game is already dead
>>533989548then stop responding lil bro
>>533989548If this game dies that's a good thing, I've never seen a community more deserving
>try out hero
>have an absurdly horrible team
>dont touch the hero in fear of that again for a month
I just want to play Dynamo
>>533989264why does this bitch has a mateba? that's not very cowboy like
>>533992854old asset. Apparently Holliday's gun is supposed to be a beautiful old western revolver ownedby Doc Holliday so I guess they want to do it later
>>533990110I want this game to go back to actually innovating, instead of using Dota 2 and "other mobas are like this" as a prime excuse to slow their game to shit.
This game should have been the Titanfall 2 of MOBAs, but now we're back to playing characters who mostly feel like fat retards.
Then I see that faggot bananas_only playing his 5000th game of Bebop and remember this shit is probably doomed
Vindickduh's snipe makes no sense
>red silhouette means execute
>charge up scope like tf2 sniper
>hit
>OHHH SO CLOSE THEY HAVE 120HP LEFT TRY AGAIN SO SORRY!
>get them lower hp next time
>no time to charge, quick scope
>OH SOOO CLOSE BUT THEY HAVE 80HP LEFT TRY AGAIN WITH A LONGER CHARGE SCOPE
I hate it why are they blinking red when they are NOT ready to be executed
Shiv have no problem with it
>>533996110tards complained too much about it, why is it even called assassinate when you can't do that reliably i'll never know
new leaked deadlock theme
https://suno.com/s/dXRTV8wvefZ5kGau
>>533996562>AI slop image>AI slop music>probably written by an AI too by the sound of itYou're so tasteless
>>533997498I wish what? That you're tasteless? You might want to run your responses by chatGPT before you post, you drooling imbecile. You can't even make sense on your own
>>533997643>make sensemake sense of what?
>>533996110>>533996435Never understood why they gutted her snipe so hard when it's the least egregious part of her kit and another hero has a lock on auto execute that you can chain.
>get absolutely shitrolled by a vyper/ivy duo lane
>hitting crazy damage numbers early game
>dodges every disarm/debuff with ease
>headshot ratio through the roof
>spamming the chat with :3 after every kill
>we predictably lose
>check their steam afterwards
>two vac bans on record
>account is barely used
>only game on record is deadlock and like 5 minutes on rocket league
genuinely why the fuck are you allowed to play a "competitive" game if you have multiple vacs on record and you're using a blatant smurf
>>533989238the sad part is your stupid ass is making me think the other retard is right
>>533996110people bitched too hard about vindicta being obnoxious once she hit 3000 souls on the old open map
they should just revert it because of how many fucking covers this piece of shit map has now but oh well
>>533998870ignoring the fact that this isn't a real game or otherwise "out" in any way where a rank matters or you can all it competitive outside of whatever autistic rat race you set yourself to, you are objectively in shitter elo if you find yourself face to face with a smurf that doesn't have hundreds and hundreds of hours in the game. what's your rank? below archon? that's why.
of all the retarded decisions this team has made (and there are a lot) the movement nerf this past patch is one of the most retarded. make everyone slower for no reason? sounds good push it in. the heroes that suffered the most like abrams were already slow as fuck but yeah, make the game even slower. everyone was saying the movement was kind of cool we can't have people enjoying anything in our misery simulator!
>>534006802>Heroes that suffered the most>Like AbramsLmfao, do tanktards really believe this shit? The implementation is awkward sure but in theory this makes hero design more varied and movement is still mostly the same, tanks don't need to be as fast as glass cannons realistically.
>haze has an 88% pickrate
bruh
>>534009053Lash and Seven have higher pickrate in more relevant elo brackets
>>534009053She's the exact kind of character you'd guess to be the most picked character too. Like if I saw the entire cast I'd 100% point at Haze.
>Invis>Assassin playstyle>But also the carry>Simple to understand as well, just shoot the enemy>Slick 'tacticool' design with dual wielding weapons, spec ops outfit, and edgy "Party of a mysterious organization that makes the CIA look like an open book..." ass loreThe funny thing is with how Valve develops characters to be unappealing as fuck to most people I wonder if they even realized they were creating the most played character in the game when conceptualizing her.
>>534007281>tanks don't need to be as fast as glass cannons realistically.they're league tourists, please understand
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>>534007281>tanks don't need to be as fast as glass cannons realisticallyuhhh
>it's another Abrams spends the game going into their jungle to die episode
>>534013250Why are they all like this?
>>534009930>league tourists
>>533967657>support ivy>barely any spirit itemsyou're not support ivy, you're a walking rescue beam and healing nova.
>>533989158you are SO fucking mad. I can't imagine how pathetic and miserable your IRL life is if you're spending days on end seething in a general for a game you hate instead of doing literally anything else with your pathetic life.
suicide stream soon hopefully!
why are dotards acting like they aren't also tourists to deadlock? by definition, you're a tourist.
can't wait for valve to do literally anything with the HUD. 2 people already did this:
https://gamebanana.com/mods/610813
The current minimalist style just feels out of place and jarring with the setting. If they can't copy Hellboy then maybe they can do some caricatures in the style of Looney Tunes or at the very least put a sepia filter on the portraits or something
>>534019808>WhY ArE DoTarDs AcTiNg LiKe TheY Aren'T ToUrIsTs tO DeAdLoCk? bY DeFiNiTiOn, YoU'Re A ToUrIsT.
>>534020567>no argumentI accept your concession, tourist.
>made by the dota guys
>made by the dota guy under a pseudonym
>uses dota design philosophies for both kits and items
>very likely to become more and more dota
dotachads...win
>>534009053>>534009237I literally just white pick lash haze and purple ivy and I get her 100% of the time.
>>534021442NTA but I just got a clutch triple kill with an additional assist on spirit ivy by throwing ult, kudzu, alchemical flask and vortex all at once. We managed to get out of our own base and win. After hearing that, why in the world would you want to play 'support' Ivy and pray for your teammates to do their job plus yours?
>>534021984Did you see the scoreline you retarded faggot? What "job" did I not do? Enjoy playing budget pocket.
I'm often the highest or top 3 in the lobby by mmr at ascendant, I never see more than one or two eternus players on either team if they do show up, it's pretty lame. Why can't I be the low elo shitter in eternus lobbies getting carried?
8 losses in a row, 3 days straight of losses.
This matchmaking is beyond broken and I don't even know what to do anymore. Change up my build, practice and just match after match of getting dumped with smurfs, crazy insane 20 and 0 hazes, or an entire team of feeders. This game isn't salvageable.
>>534022593in the last two weeks I've also net -15 losses, it's worse now than ever for some reason. maybe the chatgpt schizo was right
>>534022287>dogshit player damage>assists can be farmed through walls without even damaging the person>objective damage probably farmed late into the game on the shrines/patron, who caresbut hey, you restored some meaningless health! grats! hopefully your next team can carry the dead weight healcuck that is you and pull the weight of being down a player that does anything remotely useful!
>>534022931did you really need to type all that
>>534023073>support ivy helmet wearing retard>actually allergic to reading longer than a sentence. LMAO
>>534023441>anon shares a screenshot>you feel the need to be a massive combative niggerseek help
>>534023546>as he was being a massive combative faggot in the post that was replied tooh so you're ACTUALLY illiterate, LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>534022489Because the faggots who should be creating eternus lobbies are hopping on smurfs instead to rape new players in perpetuity because they're literally afraid to play against their own skill level.
>>534023685stop shittibg up the thread and get help
>>534023941>shittibgLMAOOOO
>all these retards arguing about a dead before arrival game
pathetic
>>534024005are u rly lmaoing or just being a nigger? we know the truth
>>534024183uh oh, tranny melty!!!
>>534022931>support build about debuffing, pushing and healing people does less damageWOAH. retarded nigger.
>assists can be farmed through walls, but no one else can magically get these assists as wellretarded nigger.
>objective damage farmed on patron, but people with actual gun builds have less damage than the support for some mystery reasonretarded nigger.
try again.
>>534024251>suddenly i am le trannyobsessed with trannies? you really need help
>>534024251Don't you play Ivy too? You're a tranny as well. Cope.
>>534022931Ivy in a nurse outfit
>>534024514you got raped and you need help
you guys are being so fucking dramatic, holy shit
rabid unemployed creatures crying about how someone plays a beta playtest game
>>534024118>t. coping valvedrone
>>534007281>tanks don't need to be as fast as glass cannons realisticallyI do not understand your point as before this patch abrams was still not as fast as someone like haze. you realize each hero had different base movement speed right? or are we just pretending like everyone was exactly the same speed so valve doesn't look completely retarded for nerfing the one thing people almost universally complimented about the game
>>534024356>debuffingyeah bro i'm sure your very awesome alch fire and dogshit bullet resist shredder really secured your slot as not a useless piece of dogshit on that team!
>no one else can magicallyyou have sprint items, you can easily get to any fight and tickle a guy and pretend you contributed.
>buhhh muh people w/ actual gun!!!retards love to not shoot the objective and pad their stats instead. it's not that rare, Archon tranny.
>>534024987stop trying this hard
>>534024826wageslavery isnt a virtue
>>534024960Except movement is still the same tanks are just rightfully now slightly slower when dashing, to be more consistent with everything else. Why are you faggots seething so hard over this change?
who is THE most braindead no effort character in this game?
Mo? Kelvin?
>>534025842>movement is still the same, its just different nowthis is the kind of person still playing deadlock, says it all really
>>534025986Warden probably number 1. Close second would be Abrams, Mo is def pretty braindead but not nearly as bad as these two. Seven is a contender too just by virtue of being so broken and effortlessly good at everything.
>>534024987I hate when people get super hung up on stats, its easy to look at someone with really high numbers and say they did good, but in reality stats don't tell you about shit that matters like who was making callouts, who was applying debuffs, who saved their teammates lives, who initiated, who maintained control in teamfights, who shut down ults, etc.
its easy to pad stats, its takes skill to actually help your team win games
>>534026218It didn't fundamentally change, it's just mildly slower. You can still slide, dash jump, walljump, do rollouts, etc. Feel free to hit me up when they change that for tanktards and I'll actually hear out your bitching.
>this is the kind of person still playing deadlock, says it all reallySo you don't play it yet you're still here bitching? Have you considered killing yourself instead of shitting up the general since you're implying you don't even play?
>>534022691>maybe the chatgpt schizo was rightWhat did he say? Also, chinkoid DeepSeek >
>>534025986seven, warden, vyper
Reddit is killing this game
>they're crying about siphon bullets being OP again
>they're also circle jerking about counterspell being OP but "please don't nerf it because it counters lash :33333"
>>534033876I feel like Siphon bullets are overrated if anything, counterspell is actually strong but shouldn't be nerfed other greens should just be brought up speed (just not in the way that involves giving free weapon damage for no reason like how it was before)
>McGinnis turrets do chip damage till late game
>Support McGinnis is worse than Viscous, Dynamo or even Kelvin and Ivy honestly
>Gun McGinnis is ass cause she has no free damage passives
>her ult is too shit to bother building around-- it's closest parallel, Bebop ult-- is a strictly better version
>McGinnis rockets get obstructed by the absolute fucking dumbest shit where Bebop laser doesn't
>McGinnis rockets also blatantly do less damage while also having a longer cooldown than Bebop laser
>there is no reason for this character to fucking exist in the game whatsoever
I will never understand "people" who suddenly decide to afk and just mindlessly move in the base. It's so fucking boring to do. And most of these niggers are russians, are they so fucking miserable they need to be a deadweight in vidyas too???
I think animenigger and valvedrone complainer should kiss
>>534033876I ahvent seen anyone building siphon bullets for some time now, were they also nerfed or what?
>>534035414Surrender option enjoyers who don't want to play but don't want to be punished for faggot behaviour.
>>534035414Every rant I read about this game sounds exactly like DOTA except my toaster can't run it รง_รง
Maybe it's for the best so I don't get hooked on a sanity-grinding game again
>>534036240game is fun but yeah you need friends to be garanteed to not stumble upon ruskies
>>533961037T3 or T4 upgrade to Rebuttal where if you successfully parry a melee attack, your character does a quick light melee (can't be parried).
>>534033876All those faggots need to get the shit beat out of them
>>534025842>slightly slower when dashingI spam Abrams and I barely feel the change.
>>534024987>Faggot nigger actually reported the post he's replying tolol you lost all credibility hang yourself
>>534037287I still can't get over the mustache hair. Take that away and it would be a pretty solid design, but that is literally just a mustache on their head.
>>534033876I really hope and think at this point valve is paying no attention to reddit
>>534044836reminds me of Yagami
>>534033876I hope they don't nerf counterspell because this item actually takes skill to use.
>>534033876siphon bullets is ass right now, and counterspell is balanced because it has a cooldown, on top of you know actually taking skill and costing 3.2k
>>534025986infernus. passive spirit damage, 70% or more of your bullet damage, for free. 20% damage amp (40% + lifesteal with upgrades). big ass stun, good escape that also does damage and has charges. playing infernus is playing easy mode
>lane partner never shoots creeps
>fucks off immediately to farm boxes
>lose lane
>does nothing but farm all game after
>lose game
>has 30k on anyone else in the lobby
>still lost
>absolutely underwhelming stats
is this griefing or are people really this retarded
>>534045823>i'm sure to win because my soul count is superiorand then they act like they did anything all game
>It's another Kelvin/Dynamo lane partner rushing rescue beam episode
>>534046824>buy nothing but healing items>never shoot gun or manage waves>go 0/8>"im support"
Holy shit mcginnis is so fun. Annoyingly I can't slot resistance between all the gun and turret dmg
currently learning yamato, spirit or gun?
feels like spirit isnt as bursty as it should be when you got only one skill actually doing damage
>>534044836>theirfag
>>534036240How can your pc run deadcock if it cant run dota? Do you actually play the game or just checking if its worth playing?
>>534056754Not sure if gun Yamato is viable, all I see is spirit Yamatos
OMG GUYS SIPHON BULLETS IS OP EVEN THOUGH ITS THE WEAKEST ITS EVER BEEN OMG HOW DARE AN ITEM DEAL 60 DPS HOLY SHIT WE NEEEEED TO KILL ALL m1 DAMAGE
Yeah I'm done with this shit. Thank fuck other actual FPS games are coming out, because this game and it's community are quite literally about to waste 10 years of their lives circlejerking. DOTA devs and DOTA players are actually wastes of space and it's not even close.
>>534062284hey lilbro when every gun carry starts to build an item or theyre throwing it's a sign things need to change. mmkay?
>>534009053She's fun and takes skill unlike 99% of the toons in this game.
>>534062470whenever i go against a gun carry with siphon they are like 2/8/5 kda retards
>>534062284Holy based. Spirittrannies aren't gonna like this one.
People wouldn't be so peeved about spirit being OP if spirit heroes were fun to play and took skill.
>>534025842>Except movement is still the sameIt's not
Heroes that have slower dashes travel much smaller distances when time is a factor (such as using a bounce pad, the friction resistance buff off of the zip line, haste rune etc.)
If you don't believe me pick paradox and do a rollout with carbine active (just to illustrate the difference it makes). Do the same after reloading as Mo and Krill and see the distance. For every bucket 3 hero it's a huge nerf to their overall mobility (those heroes already having the worst mobility in the game BEFORE this shit)
Again, that's not even considering the fact these heroes already had a hard time catching the already faster heroes, now those faster heroes are even faster than before. It's an incredibly shit change that will hopefully get reversed
>>534066880spirit vindicta is fun
Just saw the update on steam
a deadlock update just flew over my house
>>534075735stupid RAT don't fucking GO support i don't care what you put on to seduce me, buy the fucking orange items!!!
>>534041749T4 upgrade to rebuttal where if you successfully parry, the opposing hero is forcibly kicked from the game and can't rejoin for 60 seconds.
>>534080976>bunny suit too big for flattie hereSEXOOOOOO
>>534075735>>534080976Nooo anon dont do it, dont go this way, dont let the corruption take you
>>534082012tasteful pinups are based
>>534082481anon I have the most unerotic boomer art style on the planet, I am not sure how you manage
Flopping tranny deadcock.
>>534075735>>534080976Now draw her wearing lash fan merch
topson on deadlock:
https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1mi2ilx/topson_from_dota_2_twotime_the_international/
repeating the usual doomer canard about the card game and autochess. at the end of the day I think it really comes down to TF2/Dota players just hating the idea of a new IP.
>>534086481i might not think it's going to get abandoned but it's still a latent fear in the people who like the game
valve is pretty bad at updating their active live service games already
>>534082485Honestly, thats a good idea. We need an airplane pinup girl Ivy
>>534086481I anit reading reddit
>>534087219>valve is pretty bad at updating their active live service games alreadyCounter Strike players just like gun skins, they actively dislike gameplay additions. Dota 2 is a complete game, there isn't much to add except for events and a hero update once or twice a year (because almost every archetype imaginable is covered). TF2 is 15 years old. what service can they provide except for meta shakeups?
>>534084560Don't be modest, you know it looks good. I have to resist the urge of making OP each time with how many you're drawing.
>>534087367>We need an airplane pinup girl IvyIsn't that an official skin?
>>534087473tf2 could absolutely use new guns
but for some inexplicable reason they absolutely refuse to add any, i really don't get it
old updates used to be like, a few maps, some hats, and some guns, why can't we have that back? we already get hats and maps, it would be so easy, it makes me so angry that they refuse to add guns
if every slop summer/winter/halloween case update came with just ONE new weapon i would be the happiest man in the world
fuck valve
>>534088098>but for some inexplicable reason they absolutely refuse to add any, i really don't get itlive service updates ended. robin walker is still at valve. if I had to guess, they're trying to come up with a TF3 that would be successful in the fortnite era.
>>534088271BUT THEY STILL DO UPDATES!! JUST GRAB ONE COMMUNITY MADE WEAPON AND SLAP A BUNCH OF FUCKING STATS ON IT I DON'T CARE IF IT'S JUST +20% FARTS -10% POOPS (no random critical hits) IT'S BETTER THAN NOTHING HOW FUCKING HARD CAN THAT BE AAGGHHGGGGHH
>>534088604there's been a single skeleton crew coder on TF2 for the past 5 years or more, the balance/designers might not even still be with the company, or it's been so long they don't see the need to fuck it up
does anyone have an invite? I'm cryoflot
not sure if I can run it so it might be short lived
>>534088789fuck up WHAT? the non-existant competitive scene that bans whatever they don't like anyways? or a bunch of casuals that already have a ton of OP shit at their disposal and just straight up don't care about OP weapons?
there's literally NO drawback to doing this, it's bot rocket science to add a weapon to tf2 just look at the banana it's literally a sandvich reskin with minor stat changes and it's still such a welcome addition to the game
they could even put the strange of the weapon as a drop in the new gay case so it justifies itself as a money maker too
>>534062284Lowkey fax
The game does not need to be fucking Nudota 3 where you just get owned by spells
how do you ping your ult? I forgot how to
>>534087473They could just stop dumping case after case of dogshit cosmetics. For a 15 year old game, Valve sure does like to keep monetizing tf2 with increasingly worse case drops.
If anyone can't/isn't refusing to move on from tf2, it's Valve. Either shut all the casual servers down and stop ruining the game with more seasonal slop drops that nobody asked for, or start making actual updates again. Fuck it, not even actual updates. They could just bring back quickplay and be met with outstanding applause from the community.
Spirit players will never understand the tradeoff for being "weaker" is that they require less skill expression (I say this as someone that plays a mix of spirit heroes and m1s) and have a far stronger early game. I don't understand why for the entirety of this game people mald and seethe and want every spirit hero to be able to basically 100-0 at every part of the game, EVERYONE here was malding over Calico at her peak, do you really want multiple heroes in the game like that?
>>534088789This is just blatantly false. Every other seasonal event drop comes with at least 1 vscript gamemode that breaks the casual matchmaker, and requires someone at valve to code a bugfix to get their barely functional casual system working again.
I don't know why people keep defending the motion that valve won't do anything. Their recent track record clearly shows that they'll begrudgingly get off their asses and fix something whenever the community raises a stink.
I think the deadlock community could learn a thing or two from tf2fags: toxic positivity and ass-patting doesn't do shit, complaining and shouting from the hill-tops for valve to go and do something actually works. If a couple thousand tf2fags can force valve's hand to remove the bots and unmute f2ps, just imagine what a million screaming russians and peruvians from cs2, dota 2, and now Deadlock could do.
>>534094357Calico was at her least fun to fight when she was tanky as fuck, yet super mobile and could still melt anybody with her incredibly generous m1 + lucky shot.
>>534097079I don't see the point in antagonizing people giving you a free game thobeit. the secret beta is right there and we know the update is coming, calm down.
absolute retards who feel entitled to get non stop updates and new content to games that have ran their course is hilarious.
>>534066880I donโt get spirit hate. Itโs a hero shooter/moba none of which revolve around point and click. Might as well just play r6 or cs2/valorant
>muh skillHow about the skill of getting a job lol
>>534087770Know what, she already flies, she needs a pinup tattoo to complete the look
>>534094357I don't see how Lash, Viscous and Pocket are ''low skill expression'', I'd argue the dumbest heroes are all M1 abusers.
Also Calico was broken not due to her spirit scaling or whatever, but thanks to ultrafast farm speed an several get out of jail free cards in the kit.
>>533992147>new hero>supposed โโโlowerโโโ elo>shit on the faggots in enemy lane (4/0 10 minutes in btw)>my teammates all go negative throughout the course of the game>lose at 10/4/15 without even a soul difference between the teamsI thought everyoneโs MMR was supposed to be lower in matchmaking rather than just my teamโs
>>534094357ah yes, such skill requirements as... you click on people and they die, also you have a passive that makes them die faster when you click on them
truly riveting gameplay
I have a confession to make: I have no idea how tower aggro works in this game.
Sometimes I get to damage enemy heroes with skills and even shots and there's no aggro, other times the tower wishes death upon me and my family even when there are 500 creeps around.
Is it the same as in dota2? Or does it always prioritize creeps?
>>534097684>complaining and doing something = antagonizing the poor weenie multi billion dollar companyIt's 2025. They aren't providing you a free game from the goodness of their hearts. They plan to monetize it heavily later on, like any title with a traditional free to play business model. The typical Deadlock consumer should force Valve to work hard for our attention, and eventually, our money.
>Ummm actually tf2 is le hecking dead abandonware or something, you are retarded for expecting Valve to keep providing support to a game they still make money from hand-over-fist!That's fantastic! So when will Valve stop dropping the seasonal emporium enrichment grift and shut down their failed casual experiment? Spoiler alert: they won't since this game makes too much money to pass up. The tf2 community knows this, and instead of sitting around and wallowing in toxic positivity, they would rather pick up the persian persuader and charge at the metaphorical low health medic that is Valve. Double spoiler alert: it's actually working for tf2. I wish for every single community to be the same, that includes Deadlock. Don't let multi-billion dollar companies take your time, attention, and money for granted.
>>534099287For every honest lash and pocket, there's 10 more geists and gray talons spamming massive AOE bombs/fuck huge oneshot logs.
Daily reminder that all on hit passives were made by literal satanists, animniggers, nazis, gay globohomo dei diversity hires and ur mom and should be deleted from the game
>>534100167>They plan to monetize it heavily later onwith a bunch of cosmetics with no bearing on the core gameplay tho, right?
>>534100169if on hits were more like orb effects so you cant stack a bunch of broken shit, would it be better?
>>534100167>For every honest lash and pocketHonest is such a subjective metric, especially here, where people will never qualify ANY current hero as a honest one. Besides, the same applies to every M1 character too.
>for every Vindicta who has to aim there always a ricochet Haze, Infernus, Warden who can just spray in enemies' general direction and farm kills like their moms farm magic points in their mobile gamesI don't mean this as an insult to your opinion really, I think having 'both 'honest'' and ''dishonest'' characters in the roster is how the game is meant to be designed atm, spirit or bullet, and there is no reasonable indication for this design principle to change. For better or for worse.
>>534099958On paper it's supposed to be based on proximity, so even if like 50 creeps are around, if you're the closest enemy target it will ignore all of them and attack you. If a tower DOES lock on to you, it will continue to focus you over other targets until you leave its range (not just break sight) In practice this is subject to typical Source Game wonkery, and the targeting will sometimes pick you over closer targets regardless.
This is why generally if I am intending to dive heroes under their guardian, I will lead by disabling the tower fire by forcing it to melee and parrying. If you then get clear of the tower and there are still friendly creeps near it, you can get into their back lane without being targeted by guardian again after it recovers, until the creeps are cleared.
>>534100590Dota2 got rid of them for a good reason: its too limiting for certain heroes and creates a huge balancing challenge where you will have to define what is and isnt broken every time and take it into account EVERY DAMN TIME too, at any hero or item change.
Case in point, what would you consider an OP orb effect in this game? Tesla bullets? Ricochet? Siphon?
On hit effects add nothing to this game, its an in-built statstick item in the hero kit, just delete this gay shit together with any other boring passive like Warden's and Abrams' ones.
>here's your original hero concept bro +30% fartshittium when over 30% health and jumping on one leg while mercury is in retrograde>also +100% movespeed while under 30% healthFuck off
>>534087473you'd have a point if they weren't literally ALWAYS like this even before dota had "reached it's limit" or tf2 was "too old to be updated"
>>534101510the only time you paid for any gameplay stuff was what, tf2 weapon drops? back in 2009 maybe? I bought the orange box in 2007, I'm not demanding 20 years of live service support like a lunatic
>>534086481>at the end of the day I think it really comes down to TF2/Dota players just hating the idea of a new IP.nigga you're really going to say doomers only repeat the same point while you repeat this same shit? at the very least their argument is based on valve's previous history while all your goofy ass has is just a fucking strawman that's not really even true because neither dotards nor tf2fags give a shit about deadlock itself
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>what did captcha mean by this?>>534101394>On paper it's supposed to be based on proximityWAIT WHAT
Ok thanks, good to know but holy fuck does it feel very random at times
>>534101414>dota 2 got rid of orb effectsno it fucking didn't lmao it just got rid of the restriction where you couldn't stack them
there are tons of heroes with passives that just give your attack more damage
>>534101698>valve's previous historyof two small scale dota spin offs. while this is a brand new IP with development going back into 2018. get objective man.
>>534101732pretty sure they patched it so you take prio when you deal damage to an enemy hero, as vin I tossed a bird on them and went to shoot the tower and ate shit for it
>>534101698Eh, this guy retired from pro dota anyway, so why would he care about valve ''abandoning'' the game if he his main money source now is twitch? There's no way valve will pull the plug on dota2 while icefrog is still in the office. They had a massive map rework, the biggest update since Source2 btw, just this year, some people just liek to complain.
>>534101824Thats what I meant
>>534102265I'm playing Abrams mostly, sometimes I get to beat them goons right under their tower, while it chills on the cuck chair and watches, other times it gets mad at my general existence instantly. Low range means its a coinflip between getting kills or dying trying.
>>534101893Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. I've learned to expect nothing and only demand to be left alone.
>>534101658again they were exactly the same back when the games were both in active development. the only one that was a bit different was dota and we both know how quickly that update well drained up as soon as they ran out of shit to port from the original mod and the game's money printer drain just a bit out of ink.
the only and i mean ONLY reason their games are f2p is only because it reaches a wider audience and gets them more money. Look at alyx and shartifact and tell me with a straight face those sold better than any of the f2p titles.
They're not doing it out of the goodness of their hearts; no one is out here claiming we need more L4D updates despite the game being sold for free at multiple points. It's Valve itself that keeps up the charade with all these pointless balance, map and cosmetic updates as if they bring any real content to the game whatsoever.
I would genuinely prefer if they just stopped support for TF2 and Dota altogether at this point. I mean why the fuck pretend? Be honest.
>>534102796nah, keep the dota support on, im still playing it dog
>>534101893>Dotards HATE new ips!!!so that's why blunderlords and shartifact were dead in the water, right?
if you think it being a "new ip" means anything at all go look at the current multiplayer fps/moba market and see which ones of the latest releases aren't completely fucking doa. It's a single digit number, if that.
> just this year,wasn't that shit like 2 years ago by now? i know crownfall ended about a year ago already
>>534102796>comparing the support dota gets to tf2 updateslol
>>534103149this year's big update just released anon
it's literally just some dumb goat that gives you 3 free cosmetic sets after like 60 games being played
this is the update this year's TI gets.
>b-but muh crownfall 2!!LMFAO
>>534103126>if you think it being a "new ip" means anything at allthen what's your explanation for topson dooming? deadlock is a full-fledge new MP game helmed by icefrog, you got like 20 devs passing by the forums at any time, that's not what a dead game looks like
The beta's closed, pack it up everyone.
>>534103364because topson knows how valve operates by now
once they slow down on development shit just gets worse and worse from there. just compare how slow deadlock's private beta is when compared to dota's; we were getting multiple hero releases a WEEK back then. Now? You're lucky if by the time the hero update releases it amounts to one per couple of months, and this again is the private beta. It's only getting slower and slower from here
20 devs simply isn't enough for a game of deadlock's caliber, not if you don't want a snail's pace in development, which is the ultimate killer in live service sloppa.
>>534103670>we were getting multiple hero releases a WEEKall kit ports
>>534103347this year's big update was wandering waters
the update you're talking about is the same type of shit tf2 gets, while wandering waters was the type of update tf2 begs for
>>534103751you're saying this as if deadlock isn't doing the exact same shit with frank, vampirebat and even fucking doorman
>>534103957>doorman is a port kitWhat do you know that we don't?
>>534103787this is literally just new horizons lite
i think you're vastly overestimating just how hard it is to modify a map in source 2, the game engine was made with that specifically in mind all the way back in 2012 with a L4D2 map presentation iirc
>Ivy has an ability that tethers her to an ally and increases their fire rate
>ivy has an ability to carry teammates
>teammates can't fire their gun while being carried
>>534103957they're not literal 1:1 ports, they do actually have to have certain implementations for 3d. additionally, I'm not expert on game dev, but a full fledged 3d model with animations surely takes a lot more time and resources than an isometric model
>>534104093you can correct me if i'm wrong but from what we know his standout ability is just a port of symmetra's teleports. if you want another hero currently in the game just look at sinclair's dumbed down rubick-loki kit.
maybe the rest of the new heroes will actually bring unique shit but so far most of them are either derivate shit (not new) or straight up dota ports
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>>534103347>this year's big update just released anonlies
>>534104146>they only changed the map>they only add two heroes a year>they're only doing balance patchesdoesn't seem like a dead game to me but I doubt you're changing your mind about that
A real Dota2 update would be bringing in heroes from HoN as separate heroes and skins (like Lion - Witch Hunter), but that's a topic for a Dota2 thread
>>534104207>they're not literal 1:1 portsvampirebat is literally just fucking qop dude get real now, unironically this is the kind of shit that takes the fucking overwatch devs the least amount of time to implement into the game
> but a full fledged 3d model with animations surely takes a lot more time and resources than an isometric modeli'm not sure what exactly you meant here because dota's models are also full fledged 3d models with animations, and the new ones a lot more so. the only real thing that would hold deadlock's back are all the systems in place for the movement, but guess what? most of the new heroes don't even have unique animations for that, so that's not an excuse as to why they're taking so long. how long did mirage take to get new animations that weren't the testing dummy's ones?
>>534104385look at how long quartero's curios is supposed to last for
this is literally the ti's update. if you wanna be a retard and believe the same people that had to take over half a year in delays for crownfall (an event already delayed by a year+) are gonna have anything before next year, be my guest.
>>534104724ok, I guess deadlock is dead and locked. surely you will spare us your relentless bitching and leave, right?
>>534104384i don't know if you know this but doorman is unlikely to use a lock-on laser beam or use turrets, and valve didn't develop overwatch
that's not a 1:1 port, even if you assume his teleporters will work exactly the same as symmetra and not allow you to see the other side
>>534104398>>they only changed the mapwhich tf2 does on every update for some fucking reason
>>they only add two heroes a yearfalse. round them up and it's less than one per year.
>>they're only doing balance patcheswould you call deadlock's balance updates content? because if so i have a bridge to sell you
>>534104696confluence NEVER EVER sorry bro we gotta make way for kez's dogshit marvel quips
they cant just kitport heroes in, they all have hundreds of voice lines to record and master, its easily the bottleneck
>>534105059Nobody cares about that
>>534105135except for valve apparently
>>534104940imo that would be a plus because it WOULD be unique for deadlock if they released him with turrets and a lock in laser (which symmetra hasn't had for longer than she did), but in reality his kit is likely going to be yet another debuff -aoe spam-automatic/shotgun weapon. guess we'll see.
>>534104884yeah sure whatever
>>534105059they already recorded like 5 sets of voices for characters they're seemingly throwing out, just reuse the personalities
>>534105278>yeah sure whateverand there we have it, you're not interested in the objective truth (valve is not abandoning deadlock, the game is being worked on) you just want to win arguments (the game is dead and locked because artifact and SNEEDLORDS)
nobody cares man, if you think the game is doomed, leave
>>534105240they literally have wip lines for two of the unreleased heroes right now
it doesn't take that long to have an intern say callout lines into the mic. making the hero ability sounds would unironically take longer
>>534105428>try to be cordial and leave a topic alone>SEE YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THE GAME YOU'RE JUST HERE TO ARGUEnigga i just said that because you seem exasperated about me talking about the game's future what the fuck are you even talking about
>>534105278>it WOULD be unique for deadlock if they released him with turretsbut the game already has 1.5 (sinclair's assistant) turret characters and 0 characters that can teleport teammates
they had laser turrets that could stick on walls with hero labs calico and it was giga cancer
>>534105663you're wrong. I know, I know. you're on the spectrum, being wrong is difficult for you to accept, but it is true.
>>534105051The worst part is we had a very different writing style for (K)ez in the Clownfall even and in the game, its literally 2 different heroes like what the fucking faggotry is that
>>534105278Fuck turrets really, get a real mechanic, turrets and mines are mental illness
>>534105816why not have both? i'd take another laser hero, even more if it's an unique type of laser, over yet another autoshotty that does pea damage or semiautomatic. you can make turrets work too but i guess they just don't wanna bother with unique playstyles like that?
>>534105978yeah it's even worse when you try to actively get invested in crownfall and realize that half the characters are acting ooc, are in the stupidest situations ever for the sake of comic relief (which doesn't work because 99% of crownfall is like that), or straight up don't match their game counterparts like imperia or kez as you say. it really feels like they just got that shit outsourced and gave up entirely.
>>534105873yeah sure whatever
>>534105445>rent a studio>cordinate with actors and producers>record dozens of hours of takes>objectively filter and find the best ones by listening to them all>easy, not the bottlenecknah. hon and lol could just rapid fire release heroes and they a did for a while, dota2 already had the dota roster and sees ocassioanl releases for deadlock valve is in this weird spot where every new hero means every other hero needs new recorded lines. every va needs to get back into a booth.
>>534105978two different writers probably thinking it could be interpreted as two interpretations of the same character
>>534106525we're talking about beta heroes here not ones for the full release
think hero labs tier heroes. shit like slork or priest's current voicelines. there is no bottleneck there because it's all wip meant to be thrown away and replaced with the proper work later on. EVEN THEN deadlock's characters have significantly less voicelines than dota's.
>>534105978the leaked VA pitch that was floating around last year implied that they were willing to let the voice actor shape the character, it's possible he pushed for the obnoxious personality himself
how the fuck do i scale late game, i have won lane the last 10 matches, leading everyone in kills and souls but then i end the game bottom frag 5-10k souls behind
actually what the fuck am i doing wrong, im clearing camps im in team fights i just dont get it
t.viscous only
>>534105978You should have seen this coming.
>Crystal Maiden in gameActual Maiden, relaxed and confident
>Crystal Maiden in Crownfall*Holds up Spork* "I AM TEH MAIDEN OF DOOOOM XDDD!!!"
>Kez in CrownfallJaded hero
>Kez in gameDUUUUDE WHAT THE FLOCK BIRD UP MAN
There's a strong disconnect between whoever writes Crownfall and whoever writes the heroes.
>>534107540gen x vs marvel watcher
>>534117695No they got pissed off and made everyone sign an NDA after the selection screen got leaked last week.
i should really stop playing until the update comes out this patch is ass
>>534119148I'm kinda annoyed at the state of the game at this point. I think I'm taking a break until the next patch too. I'm also neglecting other games because I have been getting into rage queues lately like in the "good" ol' LoL/DOTA2 days
>retards in this thread thinking this is a new ip and not icefrog/yoshis sequel to dota 2
I FUCKING HATE WRAITH
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK this patch, she is in every fucking game
>haze spends all game raging in voice chat
>its the most disgusting scouse english accent ive ever heard
>can barely understand a word they say
>everything finishes in "mate" or "u wot"
the english are a blight upon this world
>>534099287I'm sorry I play Lash and his skill expression is nowhere near as high as people claim, he's more skillful than say Warden but acting like he requires some forbidden ancient knowledge and extreme skill to play is crazy when his kit is very simplistic, even Calico requires more skillful input. Pocket and Viscous are actually difficult sure.
>>534099839The irony is people say shit like this but then actually get on these heroes and can't aim for shit, an M1 hero like Haze is simplistic in nature but still requires stronger mechanics than say Yamato, Calico, Lash, etc.
>lash
>requires god tier positioning
>have to pick and choose your fights wisely because you're an actual squishy
>need great movement to even play properly
>haze
>lol i hold m1 on you
>lol i press 4 on you
>oops i fucked up now i dagger you and go invisible or use my cancer vampiric burst to outheal anyone cause of my fuck you damage!!
>>534126031>have to pick and choose fightseveryone does that except for like...infernus
>>534126145and mirage
and abrams
also a vyper lategame
or a fed shiv
or kelvin
>team spent the entire game spamming "GET BACK!" for literally every single team fight
>one or two teammates dies every time because everyone ditches them
WHY ARE YOU GUYS ACTING LIKE FAGGOTS, TAKE ONE FUCKING FIGHT
>gone for 3 hours
>12 posts
oh no.....
We're getting dangerously close to a new all time record low
>>534134757Because you are taking fights past wave while our lanes are shit for absolutely nothing when respawn timers are still irrelevant, so tired of brooltards actively throwing and seething I am not trying to bail them out
>>534138158Not how it went down, lil poop bro
>>534136906makes sense, we're already past the record for time between major patches
>>534035362Strictly better my ass, McGinnis can move vertically and use stamina, and her splash damage radius isn't atrocious, unlike Bebop. If you're in a lobby with players who have their monitors turned on, almost nobody who wasn't already going to die to your teammates cleaning up the kill for you will die to the ultimate because it's so fucking easy to run away from. But yes, McGinnis ultimate is almost as worthless as Bebop ultimate.
>getting lit up by gun carry
>rush bullet vest
>other tank rushes QSR, completely ignores bullet resist and accomplishes nothing
adjust your builds ffs
Playing spirit Ivy just makes me wish I was playing spirit Vindicta. Or anyone else really. Playing Ivy makes me wish I was playing anything else in general despite my best attempts at enjoying her. I don't know why Icefraud hates her so much.
>>534140326she has a 50% winrate abovehalf the cast ivy shitter bro
>Yoshi says he's gonna nerf seven
>all he does is swap talents around
>seven's winrate goes UP
>>534140796More like a 50% ugly rate, which can only be fixed by the Pixarification patch
>>534141014he actually said he'd nerf shiv (hero that starts with s and ends in v, 4 letters)
>>534141097people asked him if he would nerf seven too and he replied with a "yeah that too"
>>534141097He said he'd nerf both, dingdong-kun
>>534141237well he did nerf the ult
but swapping the ability power-ups was a hueg mistake because it lets seven spam surge like crazy from minute 1
>wanting to nerf seven again when shit like grey talon 1 AOE spam exists
>>534143168>crying about the hero with the lowest winrate for monthslmao
>>534143265gay abilities should be pruned in a playtest no matter the winrate
why are M1 overtards so obnoxious?
>>534143168GT ult has some of the better counter play in the game though with the loud ass screech and intentionally shitty steering
The game was better a year ago and was at its best the first few months after the switch from NP to DL.
>melee gutted
>spirit and bullet shields gutted
>spirit and bullet resist gutted
>majority of spirit builds gutted
>lifesteal gutted unless you're firenigger
>movement gutted
Gabe needs to forcefully shut down the game and publicly hang Yoshi.
These devs have to be the most incompetent retards of all time. They are so hyper-fixated on game balance over everything else and they STILL can't even get that right. Meanwhile the matchmaking, netcode, and core gameplay loop is so shit that deadlock has lost over 90% of its players. But hey lets focus on dash speed right that'll fix things! I look forward to the cancellation announcement for this mismanaged garbage fire. How do you take a good idea and run it into the ground so fucking hard? Just let it die at this point there's more dignity
>>534119449people knew that about a year ago, This open alpha was a mistake
They should have just called it Dota3d tbdesu
>>534148097Not until he gets in so his quarry can get settled.
Valve should add some representation for the autism spectrum disorder community to deadlock.
I cant keep playing this game with the player base as small as it is, the skill gaps in every lobby make it miserable, it would be so fun if it had 15-20x the player base filling in every rank
I played with some ugly guy named xera who had a twitch stream with hundreds of active viewers. I guess he was an eternus fag? He certainly didn't seem that good.
>>534149417big fish small pond, everyone in eternus except for a few are actually good by any measure
>>534148520playerbase + matchmaking is so fucked you would think valve would shut the whole thing down due to it inevitably poisoning any data/feedback they get. even more so since there's a second playtest that actually tests new things.
>>534148520Yeah I stopped playing a while ago because of this. NA and not a very high rank yet I'm put in EU servers against ascendants.
>>534149726It's only up so we can catch the bugs and exploits the super secret klub missed
>>534152079Then climb out of sharted underwear rank
>>534152203next game half my team will go afk guaranteed, its just how this game works
>>534107540Please, CM was like that even in WW comic years ago, besides its a positive change compared to zero personality she has in game.
>>534106447I didnt have this kind of disconnect with other heroes in the event, they all tended to act closer to their game counterpart. Except Kez, he is an abomination in game but he was tolerable in the event.
>>534132852>abrams>kelvin>not requiring careful positioning and game senseSomeone just lost to these heroes and is sure salty
>>534152203Game actively prevents you from climbing
>oh you went on 5 games winning streak? no change>oh you went on a 3 games losing streak? 2 ranks down
>>534148407We already have a bunbun
>>534080976
>>534152712Abrams is top 3 most braindead heroes in the game if you think otherwise you may just be a tanktard
>>534044762aww you gonna cry? wasn't even me btw.
the tranny probably got site banned and mod wiped all of his posts for being a freak in a different general.
>>534126031>>requires god tier positioningwrong, he can press 2 and leave any bad position/get into any good position any time he wants.
>have to pick and chooseso does 90% of the roster, retard.
>haze>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>not squishynot reading the rest of this post, kill yourself Ritualist faggot.
>>534126031We are reaching absurd levels of m1 derangement
>>534148407Deadlock already includes an autistic character: you, the player.
do you think they can cure autism and baldness in deadlock universe
Playing against or alongside russians is torture
>>534158228Ofc he is braindead, the problem is every M1 hero requires even less braincells and tryharding to play
>>534159950Good, I hope animenigger and the rest of ritualposters are next
>>534158228It's way easier to catch and punish an over aggressive Abrams than it is a Vyper, Wraith etc.
>>534143265NTA but the game has a problem with cheesy heroes like Shiv and Talon
>but their winrate is low and they have counterstheir cheesy playstyles are also what makes them weak. Talon can spam his charge shots for magic burst, which is annoying, but has nothing else going for him. His ult is...ok. Shiv's passive of damage deferral is also cheesy, but can be countered with just kiting away from him until he eats too much damage to ignore. People have been whining a lot more about Shiv than Seven specifically because his damage passive is annoying to engage with, despite the large difference in winrate. Seven at least is honest, if you catch him out, he's probably dead and might waste his ult for nothing, and you can buy knockdown for his ult, see it coming, etc. With Shiv, it controls how you play the game too much. you MUST give him space, you MUST get back because his dash gives him free instant mobility. And he dives you with this mobility because his passive lets him tank. Is it good? Not really. Game winning? No. But it's annoying.
idk, I think this conversation has just been on repeat, and I've never seen an intelligent counter response to this issue. Cheese simultaneously has low winrates but is a noob punisher, so it's treated as fine when really, it's not. The hero suffers at higher ranks for it just so noobs can have a bad time? Makes no sense.
>>534175915bloodletting is fucking dogshit now that it's been reduced to 6 seconds
>>534019251>you're a walking rescue beam and healing nova.AND THAT'S A GOOD THING
>>534176081no see like this is what I'm talking about
>It's been numbers tweaked to be dogshitIt doesn't fix the problem fundamentally. The way his passive behaves mechanically is cheesy, and while adjusting the amiplitude/strength of the ability may force his winrate down, the actual function itself behaves in the same manner. Look at Holliday's bounce pads and TNT kegs; and her ult. They're very strong, but they provide the player a chance to fuck up. You may miss your TNT and run out, you may bounce at the wrong time, or waste it, and you can miss your ult, or use it at an inopportune time
Shiv doesn't have that problem with bloodletting, because it's cheese. It punishes noobs who haven't figured out that you just give him space, but, once you get to higher ranks, there's nothing Shiv can do about it. He, as a player, cannot contribute his skill or thinking to the ability to make it more impactful the same way a holliday can
>>534176703then they should turn it into an active ability and gut the passive component completely
>>534176873Meaning what exactly, he just gets a massive burst heal?
>>534149417Xera viewbots his streams 100%
>>534180826really strange advertizers haven't pulled financing yet when most streams are heavily botted
Game needs more SOVL. Kind of boring characters atm
>Ivy cannot triple jump with wings (every hero has double jump)
>ivy grenades do too much damage to buildings (makes no sense in universe)
>infernus dash does not create a gust of flame or go further
>haze rarely invisible, can see her quite often
>mirage has no flying carpet despite being the genie in the game, instead it's an item anyone can buy
>Kelvin, Seven, Vindicta are undead yet lifesteal works on them (should give only 50% heals, damage remain the same)
>Paradox players cannot pause the game more than once
>Viscous takes full damage from melee despite punching goo should not do that
>>534181941>>ivy grenades do too much damage to buildings (makes no sense in universe)actually it makes sense, those fucking vines destroy buildings
>>534181941Yeah hazes invisibility is kinda just a throwaway ability.
>>534181941>Abrams can walk into the church with no repercussions>Warden and Holliday don't deal extra damage to black heroes>Bebop, Dynamo and McGinnis turrets can be healed through normal means>Kelvin can't extinguish Infernus' abilities. Infernus can't melt Kelvin's dome>Haze turns into smoke but can't floatGay game
>>534183069hey making haze have lower gravity while invis would unironically be pretty cool huh, you should suggest it in feedback
>>534180826What makes you think i viewbot his streams?
I LOVE LOSING BECAUSE OF LEAVERS
>>534183451I can and probably will, but I don't understand the idea. What do you mean by the lower gravity? Slower velocity loss or slower fall speed? How would it impact the game?
>>534184149lower gravity means lower gravity, it's a thing you can change in source, or at least you could in source 1
it's mostly jumping higher and falling slower
>>534184445Aight fine, hero feedback time
>>534181941>gray talon can't trip while running around>vindicta doesn't close her legs while flying>there's no eight hero to counter sevenare the devs even trying?
yoshi confirmed the update is not coming out until next month at least
since the update is so close, might as well leak
>bullets now cost 1 soul each
>you can now be hyperlined at any time while on a rail
>wall jumping now costs stamina
>you cannot buy from shops if an enemy is nearby
>all items with weapon damage have been cut in half
>all teleporters have been removed
>added vitality and spirit items which mostly remove headshot damage bonus
>lifesteal universally lowered to 15%, does not stack
>abilities now get CDR for each enemy they hit, hitting 2 or more enemies removes half the cooldown
>dashing now disables sprinting for 3 seconds
>removed regeneration from Fortitude
>enduring speed is now 3200 souls, same stats
>Stamina Mastery now only provides 1 bonus Stamina
>If you are in NA east, connecting to an NA east server, you will always first route through an EU country
>"Driver outdated" warning always shows now, no matter what version you're running
>Secure Boot is now required for VAC2 AI anticheat, which will ban you if you turn up your sensitivity and spin too fast
>32GB RAM / 16GB VRAM now required to load all the multicolored flaming circles that everyone has
>you can now headshot with abilities, doubling their effects, including CC durations
>if you CC someone and they are outnumbered, they die instantly instead
>>534186407you have to make it at least slightly realistic at first
>>534186407>secure bootmeme and would still not stop cheaters
>>534185185>>there's no eight hero to counter sevenSeven would counter this hypothetical Eight hero retard
>>534186230he actually just confirmed on discord that it's in october
>>534188968might as well just go full retard and release on the same day as BF6 because it's not going to make any difference at this rate
>>534187935bigger number > smaller number retardbro
>>534189932game's dead as fuck, doubt it'll get released at all
>>534190167Guess you've not heard about why Six and Eight fear him have you?
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>>534191184Go on, tell us, you fucking asshole
>>534188968yoshi confirmed he's gonna release the update next week for my 30th birthday because he heard no one was getting me a present and felt bad
>>534191184Tell me why eight fears him
>>534191859>>534192641Well basically, it's because Seven Eight Nine
>>534193525That's why 6 fears him, not 8. Try again
>your face when devs finally add actual recoil to weapons
I can't believe I'm drawing a gargoyle in a nurse outfit
>>534196981BROS WHY ISN'T SHE REAL
>>534197127fall off a zip irl and she will show up to help you in your coma
>>534196981she would never do that. She's got a healthy amount of self-esteem and a loving family. Those two things make her hot enough as it is.
>>534196981The "Ivy is sexy because she's ugly" meme got stale 1 month into the alpha. Can't wait for the update to make her a cute mouse face
>>534197874can't wait for you to go back to league of losers
Dude what if viscous was chungus lmao
>>534197452>She's got a healthy amount of self-esteem and a loving family.This is a Valve game, anon. She'll be covered head to toe in ridiculous hats soon
>>534196080>recoil control in a third person gameyou dont want this, it feels like shit
Is Minsc really the only follower companion not voiced by a br*T?
This patch feels like shit.
Feels like 90% of the roster is just bad
>>534157742That's not a bnu
>>534162853Im not le autist
>>534197452>she would never do that.I will make her do that, after I marry her according to Christian tradition
>>534196981She even has the same dead inside look the real nurses do
>>534188968He confirmed on his Onlyfans the next arcana for Pudge will be your mom
>>534205797>hero icon takes the whole minimapit's already OP
>>534205026that's just muh style
>>534206662girls can only become a nurse if they have low self-esteem and awful families. Ivy is incompatible with this, you fake. You call yourself a real Ivy truther?
>>534206662You should draw more nurses then. The only thing missing to complete the look is a hardcore nicotine and alcohol addiction which would make Abrams blush
>>534181941What if viscous is a non-newtonian fluid? That'd be why he can hold very distinct shapes like a cube or a fist, and it would mean that punching him works perfectly fine.
>>534206149isnt there a way to adjust minimap/icon size? I often am trying to swing on someone but their actual position is not where the minimap seems to show
>>534183069>>Bebop, Dynamo and McGinnis turrets can be healed through normal meansi mean they are soul powered and all healing is spiritual magic
>>534212998I gave your mom some non-newtonian fluid last night if you know what I mean.
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>>534214291What exactly did you give her again?
>>534214038Counterpoint: Dynamo players have no soul
spotted one in the wild today boys, he added me after the game to try and brag about how he's a PRO
you think someone would do this? Just go online and claim you've spent your entire life playing video games and still rage over small mistakes people make in your smurf lobbies, before pretending to be above it all?
>>534216954She doesn't use mayonnaise retard, that shit causes spikes in cholesterol level, get your cooking game straight
>>534217853you're both cringe
>>534221880this post was cringe
>>534217853>>534217480bsj has not touched deadlock in months, stop larping, both of you
I donโt understand how a 5/11 haze can get the most souls in the match despite being horrendous and dead on cooldown
>playing holliday 12k souls behind
>ults me
>lasso her so the abrams next to me can rape the shit out of her
I don't like ugly ivy. there, I said it.
>>534226214neither do i, but i can't help but be offended by cutified ivy.
>>534066098>point mouse at enemy>sometimes press 4woah...
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>2.0 kda carried in lane, by me
here's your team bro, enjoying the game?
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>>534226214I diagnoze you with a shit taste, there is no cure
>>534225762assfaggots players are way too autistic please be patient
>>534106793No? Only the new dota heroes have more than 10 minutes of voice lines and even they have less than DL
I tried a new character after playing the same 3 for a year. The game dumped me from Phantom games to Ritualist/Emissary games (i even had one arcanist). It makes no sense to me, it's not like my other skills in game knowledge just vanish when switching characters like this.
>>534231473that's just mm and dwindling player base at work. I'd rather wait 30m for a similar skill lobby and I wish that were an option
How have they not reverted this patch, its fucking awful
Literally no one in any of my games likes it
>>534234642This patch is ultimately good because it shows you their mentality and gives you a warning so that you don't lose months and years to sunk cost. The only fun you'll be having in this game is temporary and you'll always be a patch or two away from losing it.
>>534234642i heard a theory that the rejuv change in the patch was literally just an excuse to test out frank's ultimate for bugs and such and it'll be reverted
>>534231473for me it's the opposite
the SECOND i get into a character i have like <10 games in i get put in high oracle/phantom/ascendant games when i usually get high emissary to low oracle games, it's really fucked up and makes me not want to play anything besides my "mains"
>>534237069doubt it. for one, steal gambling isn't really a thing with this iteration. only thing I really dislike the four rejuvs on the second drop, I think three rejuvs is fine.
>>534237069is Frank's ult a passive then?
When did you lose hope for this game?
For me it was the change from 4 lanes to 3.
>>534237820i think his ult was basically rejuv but he also does aoe damage on rez
>>534238138when they removed "you're in the big leagues now bitch"
GUN BUILDS ONLY
GUN BUILDS ONLY
GUN BUILDS ONLYGUN BUILDS ONLYGUN BUILDS ONLYGUN BUILDS ONLYGUN BUILDS ONLYGUN BUILDS ONLYGUN BUILDS ONLYGUN BUILDS ONLYGUN BUILDS ONLYGUN BUILDS ONLY
>t. Yoshi
>>534239082what does he say now
>>534239082I dismissed the DEI shit until this was removed. Cannot believe we live in an age where 'bitch' is too sexist to be put into a game.
>gun builds are the only ones that matter!
>there's no reason to use gun, braindead spirit heroes win every time!
which is it
>>534239082This and the phrase from Holliday when she tells Lash to shut the fuck up. Absolute pussies.
>>534239283Its whatever build I personally use that is good, everything else is trolling.
>>534239684I like that interaction though. Lash insufferable to everyone and they all kinda react like this
>Nah babe... I'm Lash
>autists obsess over ivy
>not holliday with her ASMR VA
are you guys gay?
>>534239283Only Bebop, Hag, and Seven are really the only heroes than can go spirit build and it's only O N E build.
>"buh Miku!"Her turrets and ult are shit.
>>534241424'dicta, seven, bebop, grandma, geist, ginnis, magician, holliday, kevin, mo are all perfectly fine spirit builds tho
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>Queueing with 3 friends
>Me and one of them are Ritualist 6
>The others are Oracle and Arcanist
>They match us with a Eternus player
I guess the matchmaking just gave up
>>534241194holliday was released later and she's not that much of a standout
and if you have shit taste (tl note: if you aren't a monsterfucker), vindicta is a better revenge-obsessed serious bitch and lady geist is a better dommy mommy
>>534241194Hollidays VO is fucking atrocious what the fuck are you on. Its the most bland and boring voice in the game, even her model looks like a generic NPC to complement it.
>>534241685>They match us with a Eternus playerAverage Eternus players, meant to say
>>534241802son, I am disappoint
>>534241772I don't jack off to these characters, but holliday has an attractive tomboy VO
>>534241560Absolutely not.
>HollidayHer bomb and jump pad are fucking shit.
>>534241194I have certified good taste and I only like Ivy and Vindicta. The rest may as well be 3DPD
What NVIDIA driver are you fucks on? I hear 566.36 is good
>>534243895I don't know I just let my laptop do whatever it wants.
>>534244003how old is your lappy?
>>534243895the latest driver on manjaro linux
Dead dogshit valvedrone game.
Dead dogshit valvedrone general.
DEIlock is dead before arrival, it will never make a comeback, cope and seethe valvedrone faggots.
is infern gay? who tf is Hank
Krill is gay but Mo isn't.
>>534246042In the leaked krill comic he vents his frustrations at mo not accepting his advances.
>>534246321last night your ass was leaking std positive jizz
>>534238138When all the fun spirit stuff got gutted. So many abilities are just wet noodles now.
Valve should be bullied into making singleplayer games and singleplayer games alone.
>>534238138never had any to begin with honestly
i tried to warn you people it would've inevitably end up like this the moment this general sprung out
>>534247250I just can't understand why the gave up trying to innovate on the genre. Last year it really seemed like innovation was the whole point. Even just being able to pick characters you actually want to play, was such a huge improvement. Now we've lost the lanes, teleporters, movement, solo ranked, the item system seems more open until you realize its not, and we're probably going to be looking at drafts and shit, all while the base game is made less interesting.
Man all they had to do last September was get Shiv under control but they went full retard instead
>>534247739>the item system seems more open until you realize its notyeah i really miss buying 8 500 items just for the stats before starting my build
>>534247739you just wanted a hero shooter with items, sorry bro
>>534248381yeah now you can't buy any 800 item unless it's a part of your build, great
The first Deadlock LAN was saved bros...
He saved it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vekuTo0Sr3M
>>534248761I used to think Deathy was pretty cool but lately I don't know man. Something about forcefully trying to insert yourself into relevance just reeks of desperation. Like, wow dude you got a dozen computers crammed into a Toronto apartment, thanks for saving the game
>>534247739even if the devs did initially want to innovate they always were going to give up and try to appeal to the people bitching about the busted and cheesy (read: fun and innovative) things in the game. the process only was accelerated a fuckton because this shit was a moba shooter and apparently nobody had told valve that's fucking poison for today's audiences.
i said from minute one that the moment the ran out of shit they had done from neon prime they would run into trouble, the widespear aoe grenade abilities alongside the case should've been a dead giveaway that they were having trouble coming up with new hero designs.. and guess what happened? they just started lifting kits from dota and had to bring in fucking hotpoo to design new heroes from them.
>>534249098Yeah it seems like a developer that just hasn't grown up and can't move on. I couldn't imagine making a game for 25+ years and then just recreating it when given millions of dollars and an opportunity. This type of game doesn't translate the same, and they refuse to let go of the 'this is how MOBAs are supposed to be' mantra. There's nothing wrong with a MOBA design with laning phase and towers etc, but why the fuck does it have to be so goddamn slow? The economy could have been doubled and the jungle filled with fun little mini games, and they would have had a winner.
>>534249097I mean he spent cash on plane tickets and a hotel room so it's a really self-serving thing
Can someone clarify how sinclairs ult works? Like it says if i upgrade it, it +1 the ult level of who i copy. But what happens if their ult is lvl 3? Am i copying their ult + 3 levels on top? Or do they max out at lvl 3 no matter what?
>>534250224If you don't put AP into your ult but they max it out, you're going to copy the base version of their ult.
>>534250314Ahhh okay that explains a lot, thanks.
>faggots posting result screens from the experimental build on the regular deadlock discord
I shouldn't give them attention. I shouldn't even call it out. But surely it's a blatant NDA violation.
another game lost to a solo gun rat, plz halp
>>534249098>read: fun and innovativewhat exactly was fun and innovative about may 2024 deadlock? it was just a hero shooter with a moba wrapper at that point. this is an icefrog game, they never said it was going to stay this way.
>>534252438i'll take fun interacitons like ivy/seven-ivy/bebop ult, taxi ivy, stealth invis geist, the entire melee system before this patch, skylines grey talon build, full turret miku over the bland slop we currently have
>>534252906>fun interactions like ivy and sevenno
>may 2024 bebopfuuuuuuck no
>skylines grey talonfuck no
>turret mikufuck no
>>534249097He left his job to be a "deadlock full time guy" and then valve went "Lamo ok this game needs WAY more time in the oven, ill see you all in like 2 years." fucked off and left us, and deathly with no way to make money
>>534256019he's a montreal jew he can get a new job in the blink of an eye
>>534252985what do you consider fun, anon?
>>534227795imagine having a sub 1.0 kda as the most mobile long range hero in the game
>>534257502not idiotic cheese, like you
>>534258118you don't have to delete the screenshot anon, it only draws attention to your profile, never would've bothered looking otherwise
>>534256019>He left his jobto stream a videogame?
>>534259593i actually deleted it because it was out of date, but i got a match before i could repost
>3 months without a major update
Kinda weird for a game still in the early development phase
>>534265180they were going to release 1.0 but now they're busy playing switch 2 and Pauline Bananza
>buy counter spell
>works 50% of the time
why did they think it was a good idea to add this when their parry system / netcode is so inconsistent? wouldn't it make more sense to have those things actually work first and then introduce new ideas?
>>534266572cuz it's a playtest?
>>534266572your fault for buying green items
>>534266572unironically skill issue, none of the good players ever complain about counterspell not working due to netcode. Ask any lash player if it feels playable to face counterspell.
so is Lash a full on psychopathic narcissist or just an otherwise extremely insecure and egocentric good guy?
>>534266736playtest where everything is subject to change except for the things that have been broken and half baked for a year now no those stay the same
>>534268263I literally could not give two fucks what some e-celeb pro streamer thinks about the game and it says a lot that you do
>>534268445insecure and egocentric narcissist. not good or evil, just an asshole. maybe has an occasional good streak in him
>>534269051>overhaul netcode and server infrastructure for a playtestI'm not expecting it, are you?
>>534270164yes? what are they going to do, release the game in such a fucked state, cross their fingers and maybe fix it later?
>>534270601so, 1.0? yea that's when I would expect it. which is like a year or more from now. we're still in the "radically change rejuv" phase of the playtest, if they have anything planned its months and months from now for a big launch
>>534269051>I literally could not give two fucks what some e-celeb pro streamer thinks about the game and it says a lot that you doit says that i understand the game better than you do, potion low scrub.
the elo desparity is too great in every match, it doesnt even matter if there are smurfs or not since you can be arcanist and have ascendants and eternus players in your lobby somehow
>>534272224>watching e-celebs means you are better at the gamehow do you type this stuff out and not feel embarrassed
>>534257320>>534261909not saying to pitty him, I just understand the freak out and wanting to milk it for all he can
>>534262712ya, dumb ass move, he thought he could make money off it
>>534248761Actual hopefuel
>>534258510>dodging the questionAt least I wasn't afraid to reply.
>>534270737Niggq these are the same devs that rolled the fucking subtick abomination dont expect them to deliver when it comes to netcode
>leave too many games because of retards
>get low prio queue
>queue
>my low prio "punishment" was decimating blue rank players as Seven and roflstomping the lobby with a warden who also wasn't supposed to be in that lobby
fantastic system Yoshi!!!! you aren't a fucking retard!!!
Dude what if the comics later reveal that lash isn't totally an asshole and has some wholesomeness in him, wouldn't that be so epic
>one of the top reddit posts is everyone agreeing old McGinnis icon and design was better
Maybe they're not so bad after all.
>>534285474Are you implying this is bad or something? Are you implying his ingame voicelines about donating to charity don't reveal this already?
>>534284620>leaver calling anyone else retardedAHAHA LMAOO
>>534286538>uhh are you implying contradictions are bad
>>534284620You get what you fucking deserve
>>534288816Building a persona is not a contradiction, better luck next time
>>534290681You replied to two different posts and yet still had nothing of value to contribute
>>534286538i thought his charity was like an ego feeding thing or straight up money laundering
>>534291594>valuenigger you are on 4chan
I keep having dreams the patch finally came out and it was one hero
Has pocket just been terrible for months now? I haven't seen a pocket carry a game in so long and I don't feel like playing a high apm spastic hero if he's shit.
>>534298364no, you just got out of gutter trash mmr where a pocket can carry
pocket was never a good carry, he's an annoying burst spirit mosquito
>>534298608I've always been phantom
>>534298679phantom meant a lot of different things
it was the hardstuck shitter mmr like current archon at some point, now it's an actually respectable rank
>>534296827YOU WILL GET YOUR MAJOR PATCH CONTAINING 4 HEROES THAT HAVE BEEN IN EXPERIMENTAL FOR OVER HALF A YEAR AND YOU WILL LIKE IT
>>534299218>wrecker, trapper, raven and slork absent from all leakswe're getting these guys instead
>>534301249two more weeks trvst the plan
No updates until you eat your vegetables
trying to combine two designs
>>534302317do pickle lays count
>Ritualist 2
>easily carry my game last night in a Ritualist 2-Ritualist 2 match-up
>no rank-up
>next game get placed in Archon IV-Oracle IV lobby (enemy team is Oracle average, so, mind you, THREE FUCKING SKILL LEVELS ABOVE ME)
>lose
>get punished by the game for holding my own in a higher-rated lobby and derank to Ritualist 1
Never tell me this game isn't bad or that everyone who's still playing it isn't retarded
>>534303521Why are both designs so fucking ugly, just in different ways
>>534305302first one is goofy and second is bit too on anime side
>>534303521l=well it keeps some of the interesting parts of the old design but i still think the new hairstyle just looks retarded
i don't get why they decided to redo pocket of all heros, i'm pretty sure no one had an issue with his look
>>534304402Eat real pickles and then we'll talk
>>534303521Love it, genuinely perfect idea combing both like that
>>534305472they're redoing every hero so they're up to release standard and in a consistent artstyle
people hated the new dynamo for looking too chibi when the initial portrait leak happened too
>>534306193i mean yeah maybe it's just the portrait that sucks
dynamo's new portrait is stupid but the new model is better than the old one
>>534306052Combining*
Fuck auto correct but I guess combing isn't too far fetched a thing to say in regards to hair either
>>534303521looks like prince, now i think there should be prince skin!
>>534303521>YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE RICH>TO BE MY GIRL>YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE COOL>TO RULE MY WORLD
>>534239082holliday still says the b word so this was a weird choice, especially since lash is supposed to be an asshole
>>534251847I saw those and thought they were just modded, need to do some digging now
>>534306193His look in the VN is much more interesting, with the weird constellation-like runes and darker exterior so I get why people are upset.
>>534251847aren't you going to share with the class
This is what the cutefags at valve took from you
>>534242656what? they literally do 400 damage and pseudo stun with 6 charges
>>534310534looks a little bit too much like a mike mignola rip off, the current dynamo we have now is nice and distinct
>>534310534>could have had HellboyKINO but got Pixar instead
>>534311193>mike mignola rip offAs if anything bad really, sure a better option compared to the plastic look current one has. Tho its not bad and a ring on it is a nice detail.
>>534299828Where tf is Boho
>>534314559Do we really need any more generic hoes in the game, give us a proper occult shit already
Iโve unironically started responding to all trash talk or toxicity with a simple
>*rapes you*
And then โ*rapes you againโ etc.
It works fucking wonders, it completely mindbreaks third worlders without having to engage in a pissing contest and other people in the server find it funny
Every time someone insults you just say โ*rapes you*โ and watch the magic
>>534315415sounds very mentally stable
>>534315226What other "generic hoes" do we have?
Valve should add a mouse hero to this game.
>>534316217not what you mean, but a NY rat (literal) hero would go kinda hard
>>534316520he gains bonus stats when in subway
what's with all the furries?
>>534322020we run this shit
is playing vs bots still infinitely better than real players?
How do you counterplay an AFK lane mate?
Just got out of a game as Viper where my entire mid game was fucked because the Mirage I landed with did absolutely nothing. I got both enemy laners down to 1 health multiple times while he had ult + full health and he chose to do nothing
Genuinely at a loss for how to play with AFK teammates, not a blog post, it's a serious question
>>534325382options
1. suicide dive to land kills
2. push the fuck out of lane and just pressure tower till it's dead
3. push the fuck out of lane and then dip off to get some jungle farm when possible
it's difficult to do anything with a sand bag teammate though, especially on the defensive
>>534311193If you want the game to look unique you ehouldve gone with a mignolaesque style rather than trying to ape fortnite of all fucking things
>BF looks exactly like Lash, has the same name, and knows how to do lashing irl
What do I do in this case?
t. femoid (not a troon please don't derail the thread)
Does "pocket" refer to his asshole?
>>534326004yes it's got nothing to do with the pocket dimension in the briefcase, you're having normal hetero thoughts.
>>534326001Your bf is skeletonhoney?
>>534315415anon, you do realize you're insulting your own masculinity, restrain and maturity, right?
You wanna humiliate someone and show how idiotic they are? you prove how their argument is counter productive to their own goals. You wanna prove you're an idiot? you act like one
>>534326001>lashing irland by that you mean lashing you with mutual respect, tenderness, kindness and love or are you both just clinically retarded and should not exist?
>>534316520Rat king hero, yes yes
>>534326458when people rage they aren't arguing anything, they are malding and/or coping
trying to engage with such a person is a waste of your time, confusing them into shutting the hell up is far better and faster
>>534326169How do you know the pocket dimension doesn't exist in his asshole? He can teleport to his cloak, why isn't he called cloak?
>>534316023For now, Holliday, Vindicta, Wraith, will also have Vampirebat and Bookworm. Time to get a proper monster which isnt furryshit garbage
>>534327604if you're willing to lower yourself to the level of the same people you're insulting then what are you willing to compromise and where do you think you stand in comparison to them
>>534326216bro stop bringing yourself up, hella cringe
>>534328753it's not about insulting them or winning an argument or feeling superior or whatever insecure faggot crusade bullshit you are thinking of, it's just about getting them to shut the fuck up for the rest of the game as quickly as possible
>>534327823gameplay demands that heroes need to be
>humanoid-ish>capable of speaking>can shoot gunso the best you're getting for monsters is frank, mo, viscous, and maybe wrecker if he ever releases
yoshi was LAST SEEN in the forums 29 MINUTES AGO update today
>>534329669Yet another example of the game refusing to go all in, SAD
>>534325963not a valve dev, but it's obvious they were inspired by mignola stuff but it's valve, so they want to do their own spin on things for the sake of originality
>>534326004her pussy actually
>>534329512ok, now go ahead and add some racial slurs too while you're at it, I'm sure you won't prove me right the more you insist
>>534329669I dunno, deadlock isn't realistic at all so they can get away with a bunch of things. Maybe you shouldn't ask for valve to limit themselves more than they've already have. Snakes like viper could coil up to jump off the ground, four-legged creatures could spit acid like Kog'Maw or be followed by a tiny fairy with a gun sort of like Spyro. They could even create creatures that don't operate like a normal character, Yagorath from paladins, for example.
>>534329669gun doesn't necessarily need to be gun. if you recall the alien grunts from half life, there are examples of bio-gun stuff they can do.
>>533963823> It's been almost a year, and he's still ritual postingI hope you have a good day, anon
>>534330830ok *rapes your nigger butthole*
Is Spirit Miku still a good build?
>>534331089there, you have successfully proven you are 12 years old or less. Very surprising
>>534330141I accept your concession
>>534331297*rapes you more*
>>534331297Why do you want your rapist to be 12 years old?
>>534331459>>534331656why is it the only thing you can think about? Genuinely asking
>>534332043Why are you assuming it's the only thing I think about?
>>534332043mmm thirsty for some more rap are we *rapes you again*
>>534332210because you've already said so multiple times by now. It's almost like you're letting your own insecurities and instability get the better of you. And instead of fixing the problem, and growing up, you've convinced yourself that it's actually "funny" or "le epic"
>>534332539I'm not the other anon though
>>534332663point's the same
every time someone gets creepy about rape or some shit they're playing ivy or some other girl character, what's that about
>>534332831Except your argument doesn't work on me.
>>534331306irreverent, i will mantle the godhead soon
>>534333779haven't seen anyone like that playing Ivy but it's not about that. The kind of people who promote rape are usually mentally and emotionally weak, probably physically too. They've probably suffered from some type of loss of control during their childhood so instead of maturing and becoming a better, more complete and stable person in order to regain full control over their lives, they instead go for the lowest hanging fruit of getting aggressive, violent and wanting to take it all out on people they deem easier to control in a desperate attempt to lie to themselves and not feel controlled by others. But the thing about coping mechanisms is that they are all unhealthy and solve nothing, like putting a bandaid on an open wound.
>>534334384if you act like him, the point would apply to you too exactly the same, doesn't matter if you think it's a joke or not. People don't perpetually, constantly joke about things they don't believe in
>>534335476thankfully nah, just looked up basic psychology, you could do the same, it's not difficult, instead of derailing half the deadlock thread to expose yourself
>>534335979you can't expect me to take your takes on psychology seriously when you say something as retarded as
>the thing about coping mechanisms is that they are all unhealthy and solve nothing
>buy all gun items on holliday and maybe two 1600 green lifesteal and speed items
>hold m1 on spiritrannies and hold w out if pressed
heh, but spirit is so OP
>>534337989ok then, I guess alcoholics and drug addicts don't have a problem at all and should actually just keep wasting money on things to try and block their thoughts because there's nothing wrong actually
>>534331089Congrats, now you have AIDS
>>534338751Build? I found gun holliday kinda shit
>>534329512just mute them then you fucking retard
unironically if i see someone malding and someone replying with some cringe ERP uwu shit like that I'll usually side with the retard screaming like a chimp and i fucking hate guys like those
t. autist who only communicates with pings in game
>>534329669>>humanoid-ishnot really, there's nothing really saying they NEED to use a humanoid figure.
>>capable of speakinghonestly also not true, some barely understandable grumbles would do the trick fine. there are also workarounds for this such as a creature that uses a translator to communicate. think *undecipherable screaming for half a minute* - BZZTCChk - "Lash. North. Far."
>>can shoot gunso long as it's a projectile it's fine and there are a lot of ways to do that. however it is true that it'd be a lot funner if you didn't need that. it really is a shame how the laning and stupid orb mechanic is holding so much of the game back.
>>534340923NTA but the model should have some kind of head for items to work (unless you reword the headshot-reliant items to ''weak spot'' or smth).
So you can't have a necromorph-like character with shootable limbs or a headless horseman with no weakspot, but you can possibly have Orbb from Quake with the eye being the ''head'' to shoot at, this is the only real restriction there is.
FACT: Valve should add multiple heroes with some sort of fox related motif.
>>534341441We already have instances of heads working different with Mo and krill having two and Seven with his damage reduction, why would this ever stop them at all? Even in other, way simpler games this doesn't stop devs at all. D.VA has her head in the middle of her model and ball can just dissappear his at any point.
>>534343228it'll be a ww1 soldier and he has fox head sticking out of his shoulder for some reason
I hope punkgoat is some sort of high-brow reference to nick bottom from midsummer night's eve so we get less furry reps
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>>534331016>> It's been almost a yearOver a year actually.
>>534148407First a rabbit
>>534343228Then a fox
>>534316217Now a mouse, is there any other animal you people want to shoehorn into this game?
>>534348436https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anguiped
bonus points for being an occult related "animal"
>>534348436all three of those anons make valid points.
Sex appeal > Ugly quotaslop made for leftist brownie points
>>534349651is it too much to ask furries to just jack off to normal women?
>>534316217>>534348436How would a mouse work
>>534343228*rapes you and your fox hero*
>>534351485I'm sure I've seen a few mouse heroes on the forums, they would probably be sneaky, fast and with low damage, they could steal souls from enemies but then you would hear everyone cry about it
>>534351836anon, acting like an immature autistic child isn't gonna solve your issues, and anybody who has ever spent 5 minutes looking up "psychology" can see what your problem is. If you're not offended then you wouldn't spend hours derailing a deadlock thread on 4chan so that everybody either pays attention to you (because no one ever did) or doesn't pay attention to what you're trying to hide (because it hurts you and makes you feel weak and vulnerable). The only person you're clowning on is yourself, as soon as you accept this, you can begin growing up. Of course, since you're having a tantrum, and you feel like your very existence is threatened, you'll ignore everything I've said and continue with the same act, just watch:
>>534340316I just stack fire rate and some 6400s/3200s inbetween like lucky shot and headhunter
>get weird server
>cant lasthit/deny
>get killed around corners
i fucking hate this game sometimes
>>534286931yes, if you're a dipshit retard who can't function in lane as one of the strongest burst heros and I get killed trying to bail you out while you just watch like a retard I will leave the game.
kill yourself, seeker tranny.
>>534290681>You get what you fucking deservewhat? a free noob stomping experience?
are you retards illiterate in this general?
not sure if we'd get a mouse hero, calico already turns into a small animal that runs around. a hero that is just like that all the time sounds annoying.
>>534356595So I guess if you buy a car and then have to deal with traffic, you'll just leave your car in the middle of the road in a fit of rage while yelling about bad drivers, all the while calling everyone else names so that you can attempt to feel like you're not the clearest idiot in that situation and everyone else is supposed to think you're epic for it, right?
Add a Mongolian death worm hero
>>534357614it's not like they don't have cooldowns in game, same way the sniper character can't snipe you throughout the entire match. And the most annoying part about calico isn't the fact that she turns into a cat, it's the fact that she's been allowed to one shot you for several months now in like one single combo
>>534357614They don't need to be a literal mouse, retard.
>>534358397I mean, I think the problem is that calico already satisfies the "sneaky animal theme person" niche. I can't really think of what a mouse person can do that would be unique...aside from being a small hitbox hero.
>>534327823Only like 2 are generic and Vampirebat is the only hoe
>>534358397a hero that turns into something small would feel like just a different flavor of calico
a hero that's always small would be unworkable cancer, I already had enough of that in the 4 hours I played rivals and there was a funny tiny shark dog in my shooter game
>>534358564I just don't like your furry idea man...i'm sorry :(
>>534357614the hero doesn't has to be that small
>>534358815ok, then what would a mouse theme person do? describe a kit. mouse are super mobile right? swan's kit would kinda suit the theme.
>>534358815we already have a rodent hero that isn't small
>>534358925mice*
at least with the kitsune autists they can at least point to enchantress/that fox lady from league for precedence. easy thematic fit for a charm kit.
>>534358925this
>>534316520>inb4 rats aren't micestfu
just make it an actual honest to god sewer rat, could be a more malevolent competition to mokrill's underground since they are actually not that bad
>>534358764not a furry, but if you see pic related and don't immediately want to main him, then what are you even doing with your life?
>>534359458>what are you even doing with your life?waiting for priest
>>534359458punkgoat already scratches that skaven itch tho
>over a year + whatever amount of time they've spent developing this game since it was called citadel
>still no bomb spamming character
It's time for your daily slice... of Breadlock!
>>534360242i'd rather see doro in deadlock before a mouse hero
>>534361443shop keeper should be a cute rat. and then when the game hits 1.0, they should release alternate shop keeps to mirror the dota announcers
HIRE ME YOSHI
>game has 6 spirit characters
>lose
>game has 6 gun characters (viscous went punch and fucking MO went gun)
>lose
FIX YOUR GAME YOSHI
>>534361929shop keeper should be anything except an inanimate head, it's so boring right now
>>534361443better hygiene than half the people playing this game
whatโs with people pausing right when the match starts
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>>534310137Exhibit A, I had to scroll through hours of unfunny porn-addled teenagers posting about Battlefield 6 in the deadlock-competitive discord for this. I saw a second one earlier today but I don't know if I have the power to bear anymore of this to find it.
However on second glance it might be a mod because the Infernus portrait is poorly cropped
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>>534365676suffered and found the other
>>534365676isn't that just the mod you can download to swap icons?
>>534365676>>534367602I haven't seen that haze picture before and the resolution for those looks really good
>>534367739nevermind it's from a new mod so the other portraits are almost certainly also modded in
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>>534367986I can't find a mod to replace the portraits on Gamebanana, I can find this (attached image) which displays the leaked portraits but I'm not sure if the preview is an actual leaked screenshot and I am definitely not downloading a random Google Drive mod to test. Good catch on the Haze though. Furthermore, on the original post the guy who posted it followed up by saying 3 people went AFK in the lobby. I highly doubt the experimental build players would do that.
The next game I get for NOT doing meta builds im just going to start feeding
God forbid I try something different and fun
>>534371837this post makes me think of that wizard getting his beat because he wanted to go fishing stick instead of magic
>>534359458Not wasting it on a furry garbage
>>534372020Getting his what beat anon
hopes for punkgoat lore:
1. punkgoat is a valve take on nick bottom, some hapless asshole turned into a pseudo goat and turns to the patrons to be normal again
2. punkgoat is an ixian anarchist and his type happen to be discriminated against. he goes to the patrons to revolutionize society in favor of ixians. 'brams and 'fern want nothing to do with.
3. mix of 1 and 2., he's some anarchist/terrorist who was fixing a transmogrification bomb on some officials but it went off on him, turning to the patrons to either make him normal again or turn NYC into CHAZ or some shiet
what I hope it isn't:
4. furry bait, he has zero edge to him
>>534348436>is there any other animal you people want to shoehorn into this game?My cock!
Bumping this tranny general
>same thread for over a week
yikes
Some games genuinely feel decided at the character select screen
>my team: Ivy, Geist, Bebop, Talon, abrams and pocket
>their team: shiv, seven, haze, warden, infernus, viscous
>it's a infernus deals all spirit damage while building no spirit items game again
>>534379036nah most games are over by ten minutes, you can feel it too, everyone can
>>534380268depends, macro is a lot stronger. lots of game lost to smart ratting when they try to death ball without looking at the map.
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>diverse
>inclusive
>blacks
>women
They won't survive open beta, won't they?
>decide to try a meme gun talon build before bed
>get paired in lane with a fellow ritualist against 2 oracles
thanks volvo
people who play this game with friends have to be losers who get stomped in actual ranked when other finished competitive games exist
this game is so fuking dead its not even funny
>>534388319deadlock is way more fun than all of those other games tho
>>534388530it's still the third biggest PC moba in the world
>>534388892you are lucky unite isn't on PC
>>534388571I think so too except facing sweaty stacks
Is there still a console cmd to avoid people queuing together
>>534389060God Unite is trash....
I dont get it theres like 20 """mobas"""" that play the exact same, all like a shitty phone version of LoL and yet somehow they all do well? Is there something wrong with Chinese people that make them like bad games?
>Mobile legends>LoL phone version>pokemon unite>honor of kings>ect. all the same fucking game and its NOT a good game. if you want a casual moba play HoTS or smite.
>>534389727it doesn't matter if it's good, it just needs to be on cell phone and have marketable characters
>>534389060Unite is literally more braindead than LoL and HotS.
LITERALLY made for iPad babies.
>>534380768>smart rattinglol lmao
>fags death balling and way ahead in souls>try to push a lane a LITTLE while their entire team is on the opposite side of the map>some low skill floor meta crutch hero speeds over at a million miles per hour to kill you>instantly diek.
>>534389894I swear to god the chinese will drag gaming down to a new darkage
>>534394031let me guess, you play ivy right
>>534389727>>534389894Most of those games are unironically a better experience than league and dota. The fucking league phone game is more balanced and has more effort put into its gameplay, items, runes, champions, and skins than pc league at this point.
>>534393729>Its le hecking braindead cus its mobile!Yet it's still more fun than modern rotting away pc league (woops we spent all your skin money for the last ten years on a failed minecraft clone so don't expect any legit investment or even fixes to our dogshit client just please buy the 200 dollar naked ahri skin).
>>534397198didn't know about hytale kek. wonder if they're gonna still pursue a deadlock knock off
>le hecking mobile moba is fun!
>look inside
>bot matches, bot matches, bot matches
>matchmaking puts you in an absurdly low elo game
>your team gets rolled by the overfed smurf on the enemy team
>matchmaking puts you in a higher elo game
>stuck just afk farming and shooting objectives all game in order to not feed
>>534394840I play everyone except fag heroes like Lash, Vindicta, Shiv, Yammy, or Warden.
some heroes are way too dishonest
You have some that are weak early and scale late like seven, and some strong early to mid and then becomes useless as fuck like lash.
Then, thereโs faggot heroes like warden and geist who will rape you all game with aoe spam that applies all sorts of debuffs on a short cooldown
>>534397198>Its le hecking braindead cus its mobile!This but unironically and anyone that thinks otherwise IS the braindead phone game fan.
>>534348436Wolf girl please yoshi.