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>>533601072This general is for the discussion of original, fanmade, or look-alike Mega Man games as well as original titles developed by Inti Creates.
>/mmg/ news"Mega Man Timelines" comic book will run for 5 issues, each focusing on one series. Issue 1 is out.
Second Megaman X comic independent from the timelines run.
3rd wave of Jada Toys' Mega Man available to preorder
New wave of wonderfest figures
>Fangame news:Sequel Wars: http://youtu.be/abITvKNZjyM
Arena 4.0 Trailer: http://youtu.be/DQnk2iiP0lE
X4 Hard Type: http://youtu.be/uCS9USfvaxA
Mega Man W: http://youtu.be/rcT5rEQi9qM
Gaea Armor and Black Zero sm64coopdx: http://youtu.be/-o6bM2ASRwU
Megaman ZxB https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEpn1uoGwKE
Mega Man Maker - Eighth Anniversary & Trailer Release
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ8Pk0mxIW4
X8 Demake mod has removed itโs DRMโฆfor now
Megaman X Crystal El Virus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW_sfFQRNRE
>/inti/ news:SotD has a monthly update campaign reached is final update, sorta https://youtu.be/sMdM4BKkRjc?si=K7eD4kmu-AAEDnXS
Azure Striker Gunvolt Trilogy Enhanced is out and fixed for the most part
Playable Copen on GV3 as one of the added extras in the future
Majogami The Witch of Luludidea out on Switch/2 October 30th, Steam date TBD and it will come with a proper NSW2 physical release: https://youtu.be/BIttiV9n06Y
Inti may have another game planned for the 30th anniversary
>Other:Somebody is shipping Pando with Pando
Translations of Classic mangas (still) on mangadex.
>DiVE Linksrentry.org/xdaibu (game, emulators and other stuff)
>Koikatsurentry.org/mmgintikk
>Melt Stuffrentry.org/mmelt
>Game Downloadsrentry.org/mmglinks
Has all MM games, MN9, romhacks, patches + BN cia files
>Audiovisual Mediarentry.org/mmgintimedia
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>AI compendiumrentry.org/mminti-il-diffusion
>>533959154 (OP)Um, ontopicbros???
I don't play any games at all, I just browse the /vg/ catalog and click the threads with cool pictures
3 posts in an hour? Where's everyone?
>>533959858For?
>>533965790Probably work.
>>533965974Oh right...monday.
>>533966347no butts during work hours
>>533965790Pandora paizuri animation
>>533966347No promotions!
How does anime metabolism work?
>>533969117They can eat a lot, and go for weeks without eating, but a good fight will basically empty their stomachs.
It's a good thing there's food production septimas or they'd eat themselves out of a planet.
You saw how badly no food/energy can go in Z.
>>533965790>3 posts in an hour? Where's everyone?You have been reneging worship, /mmg/+/inti/.
That which they give, they can also take away.
>>533975325She felt lonely and Zero wasn't gonna resiprocate her feeling so...
>>533966614This is the wallpaper of my work's PC.
Imagine switching workframes from model to kunoichi in hopes that the later well get molested less.
>>533979817This isn't how the Kamizono bloodline was meant to continue bossu.
>>533980058Adept blood must flow, even if he has to make more.
>>533979346At least a shinobi can fight to protect her virtues, her last job it was the whole damn point.
>>533979817It's only until there's more adepts born than he killed.
Unfortunately for Acura, he kept score.
By the time he pays his dues to adept society he'll be so enfeebled he'll not even be able to stand.
>>533986769could Zona use her septima to create copies of herself to get pregnant multiple times to speed up the process? or would she enjoy making it as slow as possible for copen
>>533987130She kinda has to, she wouldn't live long enough otherwise.
Yes he's killed that many people.
Does RoRo count as an adept? Does she have to marry a minos too?
>>533987675I guess she's the equivalent of an artificial Adept, so yes very much an Adept.
Copenhagen will claim this a slander however.
So glaives are new in gv1.
Come 3, SY has been making them for generations.
It's been more than 100 years hasn't it.
>>533987675>Does RoRo count as an adept? Yes!
>Does she have to marry a minos too?That's what she's been trying to do since the moment that she got sentience.
>>533990187GV3's probably about 50 years after GV1 since the hidden ID cards still have 20XX listed for the date.
>>533990187Yup
>>533987130>>533987229>Gunvolt prime gets his Aizu mandated cameo in this timeline >She sheer look of horror on his face when most of the women are Kirins and most of the men are Copens
>>533986268>At least a shinobi can fight to protect her virtuesBoy do I have to tell you about a 20 year old IP with more than 12 games and 15 anime ovas called Taimanin.
>>533977142Kelsinger's...
>>533994063You're crying. The tears are flowing I wo.
>>533969117You only get fat if you are comedic relief or evil.
>>533996546>getting it wrong
>>533994063You're crying. The rain of tears is falling. I wo
>>533990081>>533991993How is she an adept? Lumen isn't an adept. They're cyberdivas
>>534002021Lumen is a tulpa given shape by Kirin. Roro is a robot who got a real soul like Disnine.
>>533992570Yes anon, I know. I said she can fight to protect herself. Not that she'll always succeed.
MAID WAR
AND ALWAYS COME MORE
MAID WAR
AND THEY KEEP SERVING ON
MAID WAR
MORE KEEP SIGNING ON
THE GREAT TOLL
NO END MEANS NO ENCORE
MAID WAR
THE LONG AND ENDLESS WAR
>>534003680>even in NIKKE the maid cyborg girls are seen as the penal legion
>>534003680SOTD BUT IT'S DISGAEA
YOU LEAD A CONTINGENT OF MAIDS
MAIDS HAVE SUBCLASSES
SOME MAIDS ARE RANGED
SOME MAIDS ARE MELEE
SOME MAIDS ONLY BUFF
TOGETHER THEY WILL FIND MAXIM (AGAIN)
MAIDS CAN THROW OTHER MAIDS
MAIDS CAN STAND ON TOP OF MAIDS
MAIDS CAN USE OTHER MAIDS AS WEAPONS
TOGETHER THE MAIDS ARE STRONG
TOGETHER THEY WILL FIND MAXIM (AGAIN)
https://romhackplaza.org/romhacks/nes-megaman-zero-nes/
Mega Man hack of a not Mega Man game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvYuljDDMw0
>>533965790Playing the horse game.
>>534002021You need the Muse Septima to manifest a Cyber Diva. So for all intensive purposes, Roro is one.
>but Cope's arsenalInanimate object. As the other anon pointed out, Roro is more akin to Dystnine.
>>534005392looks awful
the game that is, not the hack
>>534004318Nah, I want SoTD but it's Total War.
>>534004318Even after CnC I still don't trust Inti with an RPG.
>>534005803>Copen killed the whole planet and he still left one adept alive
>>534009072>even his sisterso true
What's with all these new Berkana pics.
>>534014212Where did that came from?
>>534011262Xtreme 3 with the return of Berkana to continue cockteasing X and Gareth now gets his Lion to show up. Trust the plan!
Iโm not saying MM2 is bad, itโs a classic for a reason. But can we stop putting it on a pedestal like itโs untouchable? There are better, smarter, and more interesting entries in the series.
>>534016760>inafking falseflagging
>>533987675No, she's a cyber-elf. A sentient tool.
>>534005392>Title screen is Z-Zero >Gameplay is MMX ZeroExperience ruined
>>534018019someone didn't grow up playing bootlegs
GV songs are good to listen to but the lyrics are all complete gibberish.
>>534016365Developed by IntiCreates, of course.
>>534016760On that same note, why is 8 seen as the bad one?
>>534018723Don't look at the lyrics of Igniter.
>>534018723I imagine it would be if you don't understand Japanese
>Berkana getting an X dive armor before Rock
>>534016760Things like these is why I think the first 3 seasons of AVGN should be a must watch for videogame developers. Sure anon, 2 isn't the peak for Megaman, it may not even rank at the top 10 but it established the basics of level design and guiding the player alongside Mario Bros at a time where most bad videogames were bad because nobody even understood how to design a videogame. In fact, most of the gamebook that came alongside the games were there so that people would even know what the videogame was trying to do.
Is it cute because it's funny, or is it funny because it's cute?
>>533980058Stop getting in the way of the Kamizono line's future, orb.
>>534028161>is literally the last woman left on earth>Acura marries an alien gynoid instead RoRo is built for suffering.
>all life is wiped out, RoRo ascends to mothergodhood
>acura would rather hide in the basement than fuck RoRo
RoRo is built for suffering.
The one RoRo that is happy, that can still take her human form, is iX RoRo. The one whom moved on from her oneitis.
She has become a cyber diva for (you) Prueya-san.
>>534029471>crushes hard on Copen in the timeline where he still hates adepts, and she is functionally an adept>gets over him in the timeline where he stops hating adeptsRoro just has a terminal case of *I can fix him*.
>>533979817>>533980058It's funny because canonically Copen fell for an adept, just not Zonda.
>>534039171Can't blame him. I would my sister too if she's that cute.
>>534039171I hope Inti does evil magical girl Zonda at some point.
>>534040650If that "evil" is more like how Fate was to Nanoha then I agree.
Basically I'm saying don't kill her again.
>>534040650>evil magical girl ZondaAnon, that's just Zonda.
Jesters
Auhhhh auhhh auhhhh oh
SNES Mortal Kombat II Jax
Amerat was built for sexoooo but was brainwashed for war.
BMZ Blasting Again shadowdrop, trust the plan.
>>534047865gimme frito or gimme death death
>>534050367Monster Hunter X?
>>534050367>Shoot spiral shot>Miss all the hits
>>534052195are they collecting or handing out the blowjobs
>>534050367It's mid. Honestly don't know what they were thinking; platforming is a piss-poor choice for a remake, considering the gameplay is pretty much identical across the series.
>>534050367It's alright. It's the best playing 3D X title even if it's not saying much. Vile mode is interesting because of its new gameplay style, but this was during Inafune's nonsense boner for glass cannon characters so you'll die a lot before he levels up, a lot like Proto Man in 9 and 10. It's a nice addition to X1, but X1 still feels the better game overall.
>>534050367The biggest issue with it is that it fucked over a lot of X's abilities, but I think it's fine if you just pretend Vile is the main character.
>>534047865Tactical Communication and Cut Cats. Trust the greater plan.
>>534050367At least it doesn't feel like a demake like the games Capcom remakes these days.
The smooth taste of dark chips
>>534063678Get canned kiddo.
>>534063890Cial-lito(lindo)
The MMZ manga should have never been made
>>534067601But then we would've never gotten Cial. It's a necessary evil.
>>534067601The worst offense is that for a gag manga it didn't make fun of Eljanny.
Pando
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>>534067670Cial isn't even a french word
>>534068225Neither is Pandora.
>>534068903Pandora's name come from one of saturn's moon like some other megamen.
Cial means nothing, just Ciel but swap the e for an a.
>>534069130>Buh buh buh Pandora's name came from a planet's moon...Don't care. Not french.
The small moon of Saturn named Pandora looks like Pandora's helmet
to stupid gaijin:
we not make rockman game
"protodude" know nothing
taisen never real
buy monster hunter like good piggy
BYE BYE
>>534067601What the fuck are they around? They shouldn't even be alive for another 100 years.
>>534069441Monster hunter sucks
>>534069441Instructions unclear, attack Pearl Harbor.
>>534069542that's the ZX manga (which has super quality)
The MMZ manga sucks in comparison
>>534069745Still holding my ground that the Ian Flynn comic will be worst somehow.
>>534069441Lmao sales dropped when you got rid of the sexy wyverian twin waifus.
>>534047865Silksong will be there, has nothing to do with the general but I'm saying it anyway.
>>534063163>This is why PETs had to go. Stupid kids eating battle chips thinking that they look like Tide pods.
>>534070125Also, when they turned one of the most erotic girls in the series into a Tumblrina.
>>534069441Stop getting gamefreak to optimize your games
>>534072678Game freak will now design their characters. I hope you liked Scarlet and Violet because It's gonna get a hell of a lot worse.
>>534063950He literally built a copy Zero on his own later on.
Lito is the real flavor.
https://x.com/kunta_/status/1952756248916774979
Renounce Gunvolt embrace Gunbarl
Cial, Ciel, and their sisters that only became free after the fall of NA: Ciil, Ciol, and Ciul
You wouldn't betray humanity for some villainess hussy, would you?
>>534074841Do we have to learn an ancient mystical art to defeat all three?
>>534075016Adepts are human.
>>534075135Fist of the Nose Hair
>>534075180Whatever, GV.
Considering the behavioral and physical changes, I'd think there's enough evidence to classify adepts as something distinct from non-adept humanity, even without being able to throw around fireballs. For instance, the intelligence bellcurves and preternatural competence of adepts is ridiculous. Like Merak is a better hacker and computer scientists than non-adepts with decades worth of formal experience, and he picked it up as a hobby (you could say Teseo too, but his power allows him to "cheat" at it). Nova can run rings around the other executives and politicians despite being 14. Zonda is a master spy capable of creating intricate plans, and she's around 10-12 years old.
>>534076558Very capable humans.
What did Zonda do to deserve this?
>We want the Lev audience
>>534079827Better punishment than her most probably canon one (cut in half by grand strizer).
>>534076558Actually Gunvolt is as hostile to his own kind as Uncle Xsus is towards reploids.
What Nori does in her spare time
>>534079827>What did Zonda do to deserve this?mesugaki
>>534079827She said the "M" word on purpose, hoping to get exactly this response.
>>534087312>make Zonda and Layla both blonde bunnies>same eye color as the reverie form>no connection in the end
>>534088147Zonda has more butterfly motifs than rabbit. It makes sense, as she's supposed to be a reflection heh of Mytyl/Lumen and Gunvolt.
>>534088147The connection is that both of them are for sexoooo
Mytyl Mytylson
It's spelled Michiru dad
>>534074926It's just a matter of time before 4chan gets banned in the EU.
>>534073597They must be aware how bad that whole gen did with the public because from the gacha to the card game Iono was shilled to no end because she was the only characters who could sell merch.
>had to go through the untimely death of her adored sister
>shortly(?) after, has to go through the untimely "death" of her nephew as well
Poor Maya. She might as well start to consider herself cursed at that point.
The fear of AI has made some asians go back to making actual paintings.
>>534079827She doesn't look upset.
>>534089789>death of her sisterCitation needed
>>534089789She knew what would happen if Houdai didn't plow her sister. This probably gnaws at her, not so much that she's directly responsible because of her own avarice and lust, but that she'd do it again.
>>534089889I love watercolors so that is a win for me
>>534089889AI can mimic watercolors too so what's the point?
>>534090570Free expression.
>>534090897>poests no refutating evidence, to begin withYou've got no proofs of what you affirm
>>534076558> For instance, the intelligence bellcurves and preternatural competence of adepts is ridiculous.True, but at the end of the day, they're still sad, immature kids. Nova, for all of his sophisticated talk and philosophizing, is throwing a fit because his parental figures gave Gunvolt more attention for his septima. It's why he's so petty in GV3, egging Gunvolt on so he can justify throwing down with him. Zonda is a scared, traumatized girl at the end of the day. Her last words are crying out to Tenjian in fear. Eden's whole motif are delusional kids with too much power (why they're all based off of main characters from children stories).
Merak
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What's Merak's deal? INTI seems to bounce back and forth between portraying him as a lazy sociopath, or being so depressed he doesn't give a shit about anything.
>>534090570Owning the image that may be worth more in the future. Like some sort of non digital NFT.
>>534091554That's more on the anime part of their anime genes and the adult adepts have that too. See how Bakto was a "mobster" in the Hitman Reborn kind of way instead of the Los Sopranos kind of way.
>>534091895Ain't that just money laundering?
>>534092183No...but a lot of post modernist art trade is indeed money landering...not the banana tho, that was both legit and and legit proof why the EU needs to go.
>>534091751If they ever revisit him, I'd say he's depressed. Not in the self-pitying sense, but in the sense that he doesn't see a point to anything and just wants to waste his life away (I've been there). Unlike a sociopath, he doesn't value his own life all that much. If he dies, he dies, and that's okay. When Nova/Elise ressed him, rather than cutting and running, he decides to stick by Nova since he feels he "owes" him. From his background, he didn't have any friends, and his parents neglected him, happy to see him off to Sumeragi to be rid of him. This likely leading to an apathetic outlook where nothing, not even others, matter, and so, he wastes away at MMOs between jobs. Kid should really be on some Bupropion and therapy.
>>534076558I say that for all his anime mandated maturity they are are also cursed with anime autism. Remember, Nova was a very chill guy until he saw one dude who could kick his ass and then went full Goku.
>>534092162I feel like the adult adepts still have it more together. Zed, Nova, and especially Zonda are all very naive at the end of the day. Nova thinks project muse won't be used to enslave all adepts and turn them into Sumeragi's army, Zonda thinks empowering adepts will lead to a conflict-free utopia, and Zed thinks that he's the only one who can lead humanity into the future. Someone like Demerzel is delusional, but not naive. He instituted policies that the above three would balk at to keep his population brainwashed and under boot, because at the end of the day, Demerzel fucking hates people.
>>534092943A lot of it is from GV getting more attention from the lab staff than he did, not necessarily from being the most powerful (though being second best grates on him). He was way more emotionally needy than GV was when they were younger.
Nana... you're hairy, unlike your face.
Notice how all the evil in the GVniverse is still rooted in minos malevolence towards anime.
Couldn't leave them be in peace. Couldn't even accept their own children, their own flesh and blood. They feared and loathed them as monsters, and in turn warped them into monsters out of necessity to simply survive.
>>534093435>A lot of it is from GV getting more attention from the lab staff than he did, not necessarily from being the most powerful (though being second best grates on him). He was way more emotionally needy than GV was when they were younger.Yeah, that's why he's still fucking pissed at GV, even after he gets the Azure Stiker septisome and GV joins Sumeragi.
>>534094767Gibu is interesting in that she didn't hate minos before joining Eden. She only joined up with Zonda because she could tell that Zonda had a pure heart or something during their fight. She became radicalized after she saw all the atrocities happening around the world. In the drama CDs, she's the most gung ho about saving and revenging adepts.
>>534094767The most evil character in Gunvolt so far has been an adept.
>>534095794An artificial adept created by minos out of hatred for adepts.
>>534095794AU Cope is worse. He wiped out all of humanity, including his own sister, to end the adept crisis. Weird that he got a bit of a redemption-death ending with AU Lola, but I guess that's the direction GV is angling towards here on out.
>>534096016It's only strange because the characters in GV1, 2, iX1 are way more redemption bait, but they get nothing.
>>534096016>kill all life to end adepts>last remaining person is RoRo, an adeptWomp womp.
>>534094767Let's be real, most of the anime haters were ugly hags who had too much power and rattys...like the people currently trying to ban anime IRL!
>>534096016>AU Cope is worseSomebody didn't play BMZ2.
>>534096265GV is getting a do-over, and he's more sympathetic to the adepts he killed thanks to Kirin and Image Pulse insights. I think the kill-count will be much lower, as a few of these assholes only need a little bit of bloodying up followed by counseling to get them on the right track.
>>534096427>kill everyone >fuck off to space, ditching RoRo to fuck Effie insteadI wonder how Mother felt after going to the afterlife and the other woman was there, waiting. And she's still just a friend.
>>534096427AU Cope was imprisoned for tax fraud
>>534096498Meh, I think Zonda and Gibril needed the Stella Glow special.
>>534096271I can already envision the articles about how adepts are the devil, only losers and creeps accept adepts, how dating an adept means you failed as a man, etc. The fucking minosphere pushing anti adept propaganda 24/7 to make them seem scary and evil monolith.
The dichotomy of adept women. One moment, they're getting turned on from blood and guts, the next, they're being super cuddly. They're like my parrot.
>>534096820iX Copen was the one who was chased by the dog fucker glowie.
>>534096016>Weird that he got a bit of a redemption-death ending with AU LolaThey probably thought an ending where Copen literally jumps up from the grave to save his failing Lola would be a bittersweet conclusion. But then they also retroactively turn Lola into the series' absolute cuckquean at the same time.
I thought it was a different Kirin image.
>>534096968Dropped my picture.
>>534096968That's the thing, they like a man with a huge gut because that means that they don't have to fight him to get a baby. And because they think that they feel like a security blanket when they cuddle.
>>534097236Nah, it's cool. Been waiting for Lotton's wedding set to drop.
>>534097251I love villainess love interests so much.
>>534097209>then they also retroactively turn Lola into the series' absolute cuckqueanIt happened to Cyan too. Shit, liking the MC in this games is courting death.
>>534097209>Lola into the series' absolute cuckquean at the same time.Nope, that's still Lumen.
>>534097236Riiiiiight.
>>534097394Female adepts love fighting. Even Zonda, who is INTI's magical girl subversion and just wants the killing to stop, loves sparring.
The only Roro that's not suffering is the one that fucks every guy except Acura.
She's also a pervert that likes dressing women in very lewd outfits.
>>534097743Sparring, not taking a thunder sword across the sternum.
>>534097743>loves sparring>She only fought the redhead and the MCsSuuuure.
>>534097935She gets pretty worked up when fighting. Only reason she wasn't flirting/playing with Gunvolt in the final battle was because she was pissed off at him killing her adopted family. Even then, she goes from pissed off to looking like she's enjoying it as she gets more into the fight (compare her prefight expression to pic related or
>>534081302).
>>534097743>magical girl subversionAnon...thanks to Hiragi Utena's valiant efforts, the current standard for magical girls are evil and horny and rapey and half naked.
>>534098358Current.
Pantera was like 10 years ago.
>>534097743pic related is how female adepts consummate marriage vows.
>>534098582She's not even fighting, that's just a modest chaste wedding dress.
>>534097236>>534096907Footjob, or does it actually get put in? Where are you getting it? Kemono?
>>534076558That's just shonen logic anon.
>>534098982Foot.
I dunno, got it from here.
>>534098774>She's not even fightingBecause the groom is a dog. If it was a non septimal, the sword would not be decoration.
>>534099417As you can see from the Lolotton set, it is indeed a non-septimal.
Iris would look smugly at her.
>>534098582>"we are a peaceful septimal society now Gunvolt">"then why was the flower bouquet replaced by a sword of the bride's choosing?"
>>534099802To be fair, swords are cool.
>>534098582Yeaaah, groom stealing was getting that frequent.
>>534100121Spear imouto will not like those words.
>>534100492Spear imouto should learn her place.
>>534100796Lev long and prosper.
>>534100492Spear imouto needs to find her own man.
>>534100796>Jobs to Omega
After the US and the EU collapsed the sea became the open sea once more. I would like to see an Azure Striker game at sea.
Saw this on /v/ and looked general relevant. Would work better with Kirin tho.
>>534105827Not only is that not general relevant Rollnigger but that's not even the right board
>Zed and Kirin get baby-fied and sent back in time with GV (circa his birth)
How would shit go down (assuming they're sent somewhere where they'll actually be raised)?
>>534106987ZED joins EDEN, has them worshiping him in under a year.
Kirin goes to Shadow Yakumo (Copen's aunt)/Sumeragi. Bullies Nova out of his spot.
GV tries to stay out of adept nonsense but gets dragged back in.
>>534107274I don't think things will play out that well for Zed or that he will be so chill in that world.
>>534108406ZED may be chill personally, but he's still the guy who used ICBMs to fuck up Sumeragi and wanted to conquer the world via dragon baby. He'd fit right into Eden. Tenjian will probably get ultra butthurt when ZED starts muscling in on the leadership position, or when Zonda starts getting starry eyed towards him.
>INTI keeps coming out with new lore about Zonda
>now hyping her as the most powerful adept who only lost to GV because she was inexperienced
INTI really likes Zonda, don't they?
>>534105954Don't you have a wonderful on-topic general of your own to post in?
>>534111275>who only lost to GV because she was inexperiencedCan't beat the cock. Nope, not the cock.
>>534111275IIRC, she tied GV and Asroc for third place in the popularity polls, behind Gibril (#1 by a large margin) and Lola. GV2 had a superb cast in general.
>>534113085It's because Tenjian didn't let her fight all that often. Meanwhile, GV had been killing dudes for years.
>>534112586You think you can run from me here? Don't think so
>>534113517Her cover was being an adept hunter and she easily took down Zeno, who's supposed to be just as skilled as Gunvolt.
>>534114035>Her cover was being an adept hunter and she easily took down Zeno, who's supposed to be just as skilled as Gunvolt.Zeno may be skilled, but is he powerful? He may not have the oomph to overcome Zonda.
Zonda about to be impaled by GV's giant fancy energy sword
>>534105827I'm already mixed race, so no.
>>534115157>when you realize that Zonda's armed phenomena looks like an evil verson's of Mytyl's
>>534114035>>534114270Hold up, Zeno got offed offscreen?
>>534115157He looks more like heโs trying to talk her down.
>>534115810GV was committed to killing her by that point over what she'd done to Joule.
>>534111275Who doesn't like Pantera?
Her death was the great tragedy of the Gunvolt series that spiraled into the hell that was to befall GV3.
Speaking of GV3, okay so Kirin gets the call that there's a dragon, she says that the police can evacuate the civilians by the time they get there. She and GV leave immediately and presumably get there in minutes.
This means all the robot attack dogs hordes of machine-gun flying robots, and armored infantry is the regular police. The mounted machine guns look different so they may or may not be part of the police force.
But I think that's irrelevant, since there's a fucking militarized police force that cab deploy scores of heavily armed personnel and material for simple crowd control.
The world of GV3 is fucking dogshit since Japan is still the nicest country on earth and then you add the rage virus on top of things infecting the whole world.
Things were already bad and got worse, all because Pantera died.
In short she was right, we need love.
>>534115803It's just referring to the stage in GV1 where Zeno lost to fake Zonda so GV had to be sent in.
>>534115998So what? Itโs fan art.
>>534115998Oh no, not the dead woman. Please don't kill the dead woman.
Also Mytyl was asleep in the next room, I guess she was gonna be fine.
>>534116017I don't think Zonda would have stayed dead in the original script (where they only had a small time skip).
>>534115998In both routes you use the power of anger and hate to defeat love and friendship.
>>53411624710 years isn't a small timeskip.
>>534116483I love the irony. Anime tropes dictate that Zonda would win:
>carrying the dreams of her dead brother and nakama on her shoulders>fighting the most dreaded adept on the planet(who is older and physically bigger than her)>powering up with jpop >using the power of love>unlocked new abilities and reached the "next level"Which is probably why spent her last moments in confusion and despair.
>>534115157Also, a Grim Guardian version of her.
According to the official complete works Zed might actually have more ATEMS knights harem members than just the four he brought with him to Japan.
Japanese script is pretty sympathetic to both Zonda and GV:
Pantera:
So youโve come, Gunvolt
GV:
That voiceโฆ Pantera!
GV:
Pantera! Return Cyanโs soul to normal!
Pantera:
I canโt do that. All of this is needed to ensure our survival
GV:
What are you up to? Why did you create these โMirror Piecesโ?
Pantera:
Do you remember the Songstress (Diva) Project that Sumeragi was pushing forward some time ago?
That was a hideous project which involved using the Cybernetic Singing Fairyโs (Cyber Divaโs) telepathy ability to brainwash and control all Psychicsโฆ
My intention is to execute that project which you stopped in Sumeragiโs stead
GV:
You mean to say that you want to rule over the Psychicsโฆ?
Pantera:
No. What Iโll use is the Cybernetic Singing Fairyโs (what Pantera calls the Cyber Diva) original powerโฆ
You should know it. That the Singing Fairyโs songs have the power to strengthen septimaโฆ
By employing her songs and the tech I got from Sumeragiโฆ
I can make all Psychics evolve to a more powerful stage
If all Psychics band togetherโฆ The old humans who are superior in number will be unable to oppose usโฆ We will cast off their chains.
GV:
Huh! You intend to start a war with those who donโt hold an Ability?!
Pantera:
Maybe you, who lives in a peaceful nation, cannot understand it butโฆ
Psychics and Non-Psychicsโฆ No matter how much we prayed for it, the possibility of coexistence ended a long time agoโฆ
That is our only survival strategyโฆ We have no more tears to shed.... No more loveโฆ No more mercyโฆ For those who oppress usโฆ
>>534119697English (8-4) Translation:
Zonda: Ah, Gunvolt, Gunvolt. How I've missed you.
Gunvolt: That voice... Zonda!
...
Gunvolt: Zonda! Give Joule back right now!
Zonda: I cannot. All that I do, I do for my own survival.
Gunvolt: And what are you planning to do with the shards?
Zonda: Do you remember Sumeragi's Diva Project? How they sought to use The Muse to control all adepts? Not a bad plan... which is why I took it up myself.
Gunvolt: You want to enslave all adepts?
Zonda: No! I merely want to take The Muse's true power source and... well, you've seen it. How The Muse amplifies an adept's septima? If I combine such a song with Sumeragi tech... I'll reach all adepts! Lead them to a new and better evolution! Even a few such adepts could easily subjugate humanity.
Gunvolt: You'd declare war on anyone without a septima?
Zonda: Your innocence is almost charming... Adepts and non-adepts are already at war! They cannot coexist! We will show our enemies no love.
A few small changes. First, it's not OUR survival, it's HER survival. Second, she comes off as far more cynical, whereas she has this vibe of innocence in the original.
>>534119697>Cybernetic Singing Fairyโs (what Pantera calls the Cyber Diva)Cybernetic Singing Fairy is the kanji name for the Cyber Diva.
Either the furigana was omitted from the transcription or Zonda's Chinese side is showing, since Chinese language only uses kanji unlike Japanese.
>>534119913It's pretty well known that 8-4 made Zonda and a few other Eden members way more deranged. It's probably why the popular interpretation of Zonda over on reddit is as a megalomaniacal sociopath.
I noticed the omission of Zonda's condemnation of Sumeragi's plans in the translation. I think your translation is slightly off too ("those who oppress us" should be "our enemies"), but better than the official one.
>>534120687>It's pretty well known that 8-4 made Zonda and a few other Eden members way more deranged. It's probably why the popular interpretation of Zonda over on reddit is as a megalomaniacal sociopath.It's pretty clear it's a hack job when they gave Zonda a bunch of exclamation marks in her speech, when Zonda has a very measured and soft voice.
>A guiding light that illuminates the oppressedโฆ >The maiden of salvationโฆ Her name is Pantera>A girl that prays for peaceโฆ
>>534119697Zonda almost sounds rational in her argument here (as rational as a kid could be). Still needs to be spanked with a luxcaliber, but I can see where she's coming from.
>>534120687How do did you survive wondering into those godless domains?
>>534079827I think she's not getting corrected.
>>534002869Anon... it got so bad not even male ninjas are safe anymore. Still beats being a maid in this day and age tho.
>>534117103Needs more buttons.
>>534116017>Who doesn't like Pantera?Reddit?
>>534117103How would she take it if she knew there's angels and demons and that this is all their fault?
>>534128024Learning that she's nephilim would make her double down on her adept supremacy views.
>>534115498>>534111275>>534116017It will be such a missed opportunity if INTI makes a Michiru game and Pantera is not the rival/enemy magical girl.
>>534119697This sounds like any colonized person fighting their oppressor.
>>534119913This sounds like a megalomaniac villain in an American property.
The key words are not showing love to those whom oppress them, rather than stating a non-septimals are the enemy.
Zonda doing the Roll pose.
>>534129957Looks like she's not wearing any panties.
>>534125629You don't understand, maids do not choose their life. For a woman, the outfit and rigorous life of discipline, cuteness, and violence is a siren call they cannot overcome. The worse it gets, the more it draws to it like a moth to a flame.
>>534130669>Zonda doing the Roll pose.?
>>534128563She makes us get more tears, we're not sad.
>>534130669I wad gonna ask how you know if she wears any, then remembered we have canon art of her in lingerie.
>>534130875Already forgotten X-Dive?
>>534130886But she has no more tears to shed for minos.
>>534131201It's weird, you'd think she despise minos but no, apparently Eden was a fierce opponent to Demerzel.
Guess she just wanted to mass graves to stop.
>>534111275Zonda is the perfect design plain and simple
>>534127772>remember the non binary representation?>she was actually a horny commie anti-imperialist loli all along!She's made of pure westerner repellent.
>>534131770The minos hate isn't really core to their ideology. Sure, most of them despise non-septimals and even enjoy killing them, but their main belief has always been that adepts should be happy and free (and it just so happens that minos tend to be the ones oppressing and killing them). So while many of them may agree with Demerzel's minos policies, they would conflict on his ruthless authoritarianism against adepts.
Also, here's the description of her from the Jap game:
>A guiding light that illuminates the oppressedโฆ >The maiden of salvationโฆ Her name is Pantera>A girl that prays for peaceโฆ
>>534130669Panties are an invetion of the minos to keep the mesugakis down. Also, Tenjian never found her favorite type of teddybear print once her butt got bigger and her hips wider.
>>534131201>Already forgotten X-Dive? I would have if it wasn't because of those Roll alts.
>>534131201>>534130669Very cute. Very /mmg+inti/
>>534131820Great personality too. She's a tragic character. She's one of the most empathetic characters in Gunvolt, but her experiences and her brother have twisted that towards a genocidal goal. She hates seeing her people in pain, so she'll just remove what she sees as the source of all that misery. Despite her ability to plan out elaborate and devious plots, she's painfully naive on what a world with unaccountable kids with nukes in their back pocket would be like.
I don't get why Serpentine didn't summon Stratos and Elise (without the insanity), Desna, Nova, and true Zonda. Those are like the ones who could do some real psychologic damage to GV. Merak/Teseo, and Jota/Viper are just going to reinforce his mind.
>>534134161I think, despite everything, GV still hated Zonda about as much as he hates Nova, so he wouldn't feel too much regret about killing her and Nova again. Anybody who personally hurts Joule is going to get on GV's shitlist, no matter their motivation or circumstances. Zonda could boo-hoo about her backstory and how she just wanted to help adepts, and GV would probably be too angry to listen.
>>534132972I wish I was a drawfag to make more fanart of those two together. Best I can do now is pay somebody else to make it.
>>534117103Grim Guardians Zonda would look like she does in pic related.
>>534135242There's a criminal underuse of that Zonda and Roro.
err, new china romhack (demo) by MagnetFirstBro
https://romhackplaza.org/romhacks/sunaookami-shirokothe-ambition-of-kaiser-pmc-nes/
>>534136290>Shiroko>Not Momoi
>>534134161GV hates them. Like genuinely hates them.
Daytona is more about his guilt in getting Cyan killed.
>>534135242>game banned in X box and Play Station.
>>534135242>Lola dressed as a demonCope can't beat the allegations.
>>534138035This. When Stratos was raving about the experiments and the constant pain, GV told him that he'll be feeling a lot more pain when he sends him to hell. Same for Elise. He doesn't really see them as victims. Desna was just a raving loon, even though she turned out to be correct about GV being a threat to the world.
He wasn't sympathetic when he learned about Zonda's backstory, either. His reaction was like "so what, you think that justifies your behavior." He taunted Zonda as she died and didn't feel much about her crying out for Tenjian. His hate for Nova is burning hot based off nothing more than a personality conflict, even without the Joule stuff, which is ironic, as Nova's was based off of X, while GV is Zero, not to mention the shared background.
Kirin is the one who has compassion. GV and Copen have none, which is what makes them frustrating, but more interesting overall. I think people overblow how much guilt GV feels for killing, especially because a lot of the antagonists are pity/redemption bait (see
>>534119697). Like Nova and Zonda don't like having to use the muse to mindcontrol adepts/sacrifice Joule to empower adepts against the minos, but they've been pushed into a corner and don't see a better way. GV's solution, on the other hand, is to basically do nothing and to react when someone with a radical plan comes along. Ultimately, GV feels guilty for failing, not for killing a bunch of fellow orphans and experiments.
>>534140078>Ultimately, GV feels guilty for failing, not for killing a bunch of fellow orphans and experimentsHe doesn't feel guilt because he was justified. They were dangerous enemies in his way. GV never cared about justice, and he never called himself a hero... He has always only fought for the people he believes in. He will never hesitate... if an enemy appears in front of him, he will destroy it without mercy.
>>534140078>GV's solution, on the other hand, is to basically do nothing and to react when someone with a radical plan comes along.Asimov burned him on the idea of change. He's a supporter of the status quo, even if it's shitty.
>>534134161Boss fight practicality took priority over the kinds of illusions that would really fuck with GV.
Nova and true Zonda would also be too powerful for Serpentine to replicate with her own ability.
>>534140590Quoting Zero doesn't really work here; he fights for Ciel and the resistance, whereas GV fights for himself and the vague ideal of equality.
>>534141839True. If Zero had just been going around destroying Neo Arcadian infrastructure and killing guardians left and right, people would have a lower opinion of him. But he had an organization behind him, and Cial seemed like she had a plan, making all the mayhem seem like it has a point. As an aside, anyone else see a lot of similarities between Eden and the Resistance in MMZ?They're like a dark reflection of each other, down to Zonda having a lot of Cial and Elpizo's traits.
>>534140078>GV told him that he'll be feeling a lot more pain when he sends him to hell?
The first time GV wasn't happy at all about Stratos' situation, and the second time he was focused on saving Joule and said he'd put Stratos back to sleep. The hell bit was just a chuuni line so Beelzebub could be mentioned.
>as Nova's was based off of XHis homage is to Copy X, not X.
>Kirin is the one who has compassion. GV and Copen have noneGV was literally begging Eden soldiers to stay back instead of throwing their lives away fighting him, and nothing master Xiao had to remind him of what they did to Joule and not to pity them.
Copen is a dick though yeah. He was mocking the Eden soldiers getting mowed down in the same scene in his route.
>>534142202>CialI mean, kinda, but Pantera does wear panties.
>>534138035>>534140078The only people GV legitimately hates and will not forgive are Nova, Zonda, Teseo, and Merak. Maybe Gibril too. He has a complicated relationship with Asimov. The rest he doesn't give two shits about.
>>534142513Do you have any proof of this claim?
>>534142745I can see some of the others, but why does he hate Zonda so much? If I was GV, I'd probably have ended up hating Tenjian more than her. Zonda's just a kid. I can't even say her heart was completely in the wrong place. I'd feel pretty bad at having to kill her. She seems like the least evil of the Gunvolt villains.
>>534142745>enters the Pantera wins timeline >It's good actually, both minos and adepts are happy and in peace>immediately starts zapping to the extremeWould be funny, too bad Inti won't ever pay to have her voiced again.
>>534143079Here. You know the phrase not beating the allegations? Pantera embraces them.
>>534143081>but why does he hate Zonda so muchShe killed the dead woman that lives inside his head.
No, really. The butterfly is his red line.
>>534143143Well, we all know it's going to be the Mytyl timeline that's the wallpaper timeline. I just hope that they don't skimp out on the edge and make everything hunky-dory from the get-go. Make Mytyl work her ass off befriending those other adepts and tard wrangling her brother.
>>534143690>The artist actually had to comment once on the wallpapers being so different from the brutal setting of the games
>nintendo indies showcase in 2 days
gv4 anouncement...!
>>534148006When was the last time Inti showed up in a Nintendo stream?
>>534148006While we are dreaming, let's have a new senran game, GW ending AoS, loli no longer being hated, and for my home country to be estable and not a robber war zone.
Or even the craziest thing of all a new megaman game.
>>534150568why would mega man show up in an indie stream
>>534151571Isn't Capcom a small indie company?
>>534156157no it has a market cap of over $10b
>>534156430sounds like small and indie, they don't have enough money to make a single megaman game
>>534151571That's the joke.
>this Shantae series is fun, and very visually appealing
>let's get Pirate's Curse, the one people keep saying is the best one
What the fuck was that? Are people laundering fucking money with these?
No way is anyone paying in excess of $400 for a single Switch game.
>>534156913>SwitchGet the one on Steam for like 10 bucks.
Kirin, that kills people.
>>534160576They were minos
Finished a replay of SotD since it's now (not really) complete. The game does feel overall more polished. Lots of little tweaks like ice bombs/seeds detonating on contact with water now, or those endgame berserk demons no longer having the stats of an intro stage enemy. Plus a few new remixes where tracks were previously being reused.
There's also been a lot of rebalancing for weapons. The slow/high-cost weapons have much higher base attack, the weaker passives have been buffed, and there's new relics that support just about any playstyle. Even lanterns are somewhat useful in combat now. Played the arena with some slow weapons and it wasn't CBT anymore.
Game is still obviously unfinished, especially towards the end, but this is about as salvaged as it can be.
>>534162391>ice bombs/seeds detonating on contact with water nowSoulless game design desu
>>534160576>14 year old riding a motorcycleAdept society is pretty wild.
>>534163381>Adept societyAnon that's just real life. I've seen kids as young as 12 ride a motorcycle.
>>534136290>by MagnetFirstBro...
>>534162649Those poor patch 1.5 players will never get the true water freezing experience...
>>534163924The police force is militarized with robot attack dogs, mecha, flying turrets, and ninjas trained to take down adepts.
Not to mention the grunts have laser rifles, flying fist weapons, and rocket launchers.
For the civilians.
>>534163924I guess it's just Copen who has to deal with the cuck sidecar then.
>>534164251Couldn't it have been that the solution was to detonate them on the ground near the water?
I swear I've seen another game with a similar issue and you had to make use of the explosion rather than the bomb itself.
>>534164798I know it's impossible due to how the game's structured, but Cope not having his own cool bike is unfortunate.
>>534156913I don't understand why or how her games always end up being that expensive.
>>534164341Don't forget the turrets and lazers installed at every plaza.
>>534150568You forgot about Switch 2 games being physical releases always and and an Inti and Pupuya collab game.
>>534170059That's how you'd normally do it, but any uneven terrain makes it annoying since the thing will roll off slopes.
You also have the option to add the freeze passive to other weapons, however those bombs are one of the few that have 100% status application so you have to gamble for anything else to proc freeze.
>>534173491I see, I don't remember if I ever used the vanilla bomb like that desu because by the time I got there I had the other skills that could bypass those long water corridors.
GUYS, I'M STARTING TO THINK
>>534173647No loli witch in big dumb hat is a missed opportunity.
>>534177375ANON STOP. YOU'LL HURT YOURSELF.
>>534177375You are not allowed to think or notice things
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbx6AEYYZv4
is this why puresabre is maker of bad hacks
>>534179023So we are back to cultivation melt on sundays?
>>534116017Why is Zonda so loved when her predecessor is seen as a joke?
>>534156913I don't know how but I ended up with a Shantae collection worth more than 2000 USD. Somehow that IP is very scalped. Probably because only LRG is allowed to publish her stuff.
>>534182502If we were to ignore design, one's an annoying and arrogant blowhard who permakills X in an ignominious way, the other is sympathetic and likable (at least in the Jap version).
>>534183486(at least in the Jap version).
is this the newest eden shill cope?
>>534182357If pandork wants to rest then we gotta go back to China
>>534183937No, the 8-4 translation is legitimately bad.
See
>>534119697 vs
>>534119913or
>>534120687or the original translation of GV1.
>>534184892I prefer 8-4's translation of her being an evil fake loli over INTI's original script where she's the
>friend of all (except minos) girl with too much power
>>534182502Elpiss was a fucking retard who got told multiple times by multiple people that the assault on Neo Arcadia would be a shitshow and still went through with it. Zonda is younger but is somehow less stupid
What was the significance of Xiao being the white rabbit in a game with many Alice in Wonderland allusions?
>>5341848928-4 didn't come up with the juiced up adept dirlegang idea
>>534182502Because Zonda's plan wasn't a full frontal assault on on the most fortified enemy position with an army of glorified sex dolls.
>>534182502Calling it now, Flynn will make him a missunderstood hero.
>>534187695You either suck at media analysis or English if you can't see the difference between the two scripts. The literal meaning may be the same, while the feelings behind the words may be totally opposed, and 8-4 often doesn't even get the literal meaning correct either. The fucked up thing is that 8-4 can do great translations when they try (see Nier).
>>534187234Nothing.
Originally? He was probably the reason Zonda (Alice) ended up in Tenjian's orphanage (fell down the rabbit hole). Either that, or he was the one who radicalized Eden. It's just so convenient that one of the G7 members (who is not named or shown) mysteriously died right before the events of the game, and then a Chinese adept with insider knowledge shows up to help GV.
Man, Xiao was such a waste. Remember when they were hiding him in GV3 promotional material early on?
>>534189291Anon, that's not even that something was lost in translation. That one reeks of agenda pushing.
>>534187695>dirlegang The idea was that she'd empower adepts, and they'd choose what to do next. Kill all minos or just subjugate them, it was up to the adepts themselves. This doesn't change between either script. What changes is the reasoning and emotions behind the act
Like the line where she states
>Pantera: Maybe you, who lives in a peaceful nation, cannot understand it butโฆPsychics and Non-Psychicsโฆ No matter how much we prayed for it, the possibility of coexistence ended a long time agoโฆThat is our only survival strategyโฆ We have no more tears to shed.... No more loveโฆ No more mercyโฆ For those who oppose usโฆhas a very different feel from
>Zonda: Your innocence is almost charming... Adepts and non-adepts are already at war! They cannot coexist! We will show our enemies no love. The Japanese version makes it sound like Zonda would rather not be doing this but feels she has no choice. She harps continuously about how this is the only way for adepts to survive. She's not focused on subjugation so much as liberation. The English version is a cackling madgirl in comparison, selfishly concerned with her own power and welfare.
>>534191038>The Japanese version makes it sound like Zonda would rather not be doing this but feels she has no choice. She harps continuously about how this is the only way for adepts to survive. She's not focused on subjugation so much as liberation. The English version is a cackling madgirl in comparison, selfishly concerned with her own power and welfare.Doesn't matter how she feels, the ends were the same. She deserved to die.
>>534173647I'm even less interested in majogami than umbraclaw, and that really says something
>>534193651She categorically did not, and her death is the reason for the bad things in GV3, especially the main plot.
Kinda how Shinobu not banging Houdai is the catalyst for everything.
The stars man.
>>534160576Kirin has this reckless side that's a pretty understated character trait of hers. She's not afraid to try wild shit to get the job done. If Shadow Yakumo was an actual organization she'd be constantly getting scolded by superiors.
>>534173647Yeah I'm not feeling it
>>534194714>less than umbr*clawOkay whoa let's not get crazy here
>>534195261There's an astronomer, and someone has to be forging the glaives. Shadow Yakumo is probably real and just led by people about as old as Kirin.
Kirin is also unsupported the whole game from them, so it may be their way of getting rid of her.
>>534196231>>534195261We all know that Shadow Yakumo was originally just going to be Copen's aunt's side of the family, right?
We're all in agreement that Nike would make the best wife, right?
>>534199251>hot>kind>motherly>is not a traumaballYes, but everyone wants a crazy wife like Elise, Gibril, Zonda because
>I CAN FIX HER
>>534199643I wish they'd recycle the leotard wearing sword version of her into another character.
>>534199643Not even that, but because it would be fun to have around. Desna has grandma hobbies like knitting and gardening.
>>534200012That gun Desna should be a reaction image ages ago.
>>534200012Anal.
>>534200072The fortune reading stuff might get a bit annoying too. Didn't Desna travel around the world helping people before being recruited by Eden as well? That'd be one hell of an interesting hobby.
>>534199643But you forgot
>Is Russian so she will turn into a babushka with age
>>534195261Would she? She's the only miko that comes back alive and unraped/unorrupted so about 5 missions in she should be the one in charge of the meatgrinder.
>>534200442We have way too many anal queens on this general as it is anon.
>>534200591>babushkaI think that's only a prob with the peasants (which is most East Euros). Backbreaking work and hard living tends to do that to people.
Here's a question for you, though: Would Desna's septimal glamour be capable of beating the babushka bomb?
>>534199643Elise is a good girl that deserves happiness.
>>534201293Elise is not a good girl. Her drama is about how she had a sadistic side that wanted to dominate or kill everyone due to the bullying she got at school. She still didn't deserve to be tortured and then thrown at GV. What she needed, like many GV characters, was a shot at getting fixed or redemption.
>>534201002I mean... Gibril doesn't look like a Dreamworks extra nor does Zonda look like a half starved chink peasant.
>>534200072Oh no peace at home how terrifying.
>>534201871I don't even know if Zonda is Chinese. Why doesn't she have a Chinese name like Xiao Wu and Tenjian?
>>534201824What nationality is Elise?
>>534201824>due to the bullying she got at schoolPretty sure it was because it was tortured out of her by evil scientists. She already coped by griefing people at videogames.
>>534202189>What nationality is Elise?Like most GV characters, not Japanese. I think Shiden, Acura, and Michiru were some of the only Japanese characters in GV1.
>>534201824>she had a sadistic side that wanted to dominate>biggest power bottom in the Intiverse >Yes, even Quinn would dom her >>534201002Adept glamour managed to fix Gerbil.
>>534202381And Gunvolt. Actually, I'm pretty sure most characters are Japanese actually.
>Black Badge
>Truck in Spanish
>a bunch of car names
Adept names everyone.
>>534201995The alternatives are 3 girls that have similar if not the same hobbies as the people who lurk here.
>>534202189Bakto would be named Panacota or Calzone and Milas would be named Kano if that logic applied to adepts. Hell, some people joke about Gibril being a bong born from Turk inmigrants due to her name.
>>534091751Depressed. He has all the symptoms for chronic nondysphoric depression such as:
>fatigue>apathy>irratability>anhedonia>eating and sleeping problems His backstory also checks out for it (bullying at school + parental neglect).
>>534201995You just posted why would anybody pick Zonda over Desna.
>>534202743>Marry Gerbil or Zonda. She will not allow you to name your daughters unless you pick a car name. Imagine holding your firstborn "bocho"
>>534203191I'm afraid to ask what is Rush supposed to do in that game...
>>534203513>Merak is just 13>he's already done with life>he still sleeps with stuffed animalsINTI always does this shit to make you feel bad afterwards.
>Unlike all the other characters, who are bigger and older than GV, heโs smaller, which places him in the "cute" category. Itโs hard to hit cute characters, so we used the gigantic seat to establish balance.
>>534203719After a certain point, Vocho is better than nothing.
Do wonder what Elise would demand for a name.
>>534203832So you are almost done building her?
>>534204089Meanwhile our hero:
>jaja, I'll fucking zap him again
>>534204092She's an adept anon. So you should guess what she will ask...but it would be funny to mess up with her and name her daughter Elise.
>>534204297I mean, this was a guy who taunted a 12-year-old as she died.
>>534204297Merak ate a Luxcaliburn to the prostate, if we follow the OVA.
>>534204539Said 12-year-old had just sacrificed his reason for living. GV is as vindictive as any of us would be in that situation. GV doesn't forgive or forget, he gets even.
>>534204539No, that's the girl who raped every canine in a 400km radius to the Sumeragi HQ.
>>534204660I think Tron did the whome crotch plate thing better.
>>534204763No, most anons here would have served Zonda the Stella Glow special.
>>534204257no, got busy doing other stuff, I'll finish building her after moving
>>534204763Cyan is already dead.
>meanwhile, in the Armed Princess timeline
>>534193651Shinobu would probably like Pantera.
>>534200072Sounds fun to me
>>534182502At least Elpiss had the excuse of being influenced by the Dark Elf, and realized he was wrong at the end of his life. He got much more sympathy from Zero than GV gave to Zonda.
>>534205583Roro only wants another magical girl to put in skimpy costumes.
Pandora, Pantera, what's the difference?
Would you a GV manga/comic?
>>534209072The fuck is going on with Ciel and Leviathan's faces
>>534209072Only a manga, and only if by a good mangaka
>>534208712Filler boss vs final boss
>>534204494Elise Junior, very cute concept
>>534209072No...and same goes for Megaman Zero. Only trought gameplay can this story be felt. Also, as a medium to tell a story Videogame>Movie>Manga/Comic>Book>Song.
>>534208712They may both be emotionless and deeply emotionally scarred, but Pandora has a manic evil to her in a drive to preserve her own existence, while Pantera's hornyness is an expression of her overflowing love.
>>534210170>Impregnate Elise >Elise gotta Elise and has triplets >Still wants more because of anime genes
>>534210670The quinceaรฑera business will fucking explode in an adept timeline
>>534210170Can you you do manifest destiny but the adept vercion?
>>534211082Understanble have a nice day.
>>534210670If you get Elise pregnant, and she weaponizes and splits in 3, do you dupe the kid?
>>534211586Triple triplets.
Oh god.
>>534211586>This is the sort of thing why Copen was doomed to fail from the start
>>534211949Could be worst. If your adept wife is a redhead she's 1200% more prone to giving birth to quintuplets. So yeaaah, it's a good thing that Gibril gets off on pain.
>>534212593Speaking of the Gerbil, her spiked collar in this context is worrying.
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>>534210359Even the CEO of Interactive Image Creates calls it an "Interactive VN." If anything trying to force a story like this into the mold of a Megaman-style platformer hinders it.
>>534215116Why?
>>534215385Then he should have made something more like Ace Attourey.
>>534215594A bunch of pointy metal objects.
>>534201824The entire reason they fucked up her brain is because she refused to kill people. Yes, she's got buried anger over how people have treated her. That doesn't make her not a good girl.
>>534215385I dunno man, a VN implies routes and choice. It's more like a interactive kinetic novel.
>>534215906They call it an interactive LN, my bad.
The Azure Striker Gunvolt experience, aka:
>why doesn't random violence solve anything?
>>534142745>Maybe Gibril tooShe's like the girl in middle school who oviously had a crush on you in hindsight but you were too dense to do anything about it.
>>534208712Pandora's design is actually good and she isn't trans like Pantera is.
>>534215385The VN setup would have worked better with a Metroidvania or RPG. Extra points if the love interests helped out during boss battles, and stats/equipment were tied to them.
>>534219383Didn't Pantera only take on that image to troll her brother and others? She may be all loving, but she still likes a good perverted joke.
>>534219383Not as trans as Colonel and his fans
>>534219883>Dude I was only trans ironically
Why is this such a homoerotic fandom?
>>534220762Because you're a projecting faggot.
>>534220608I mean, if you can do it with the flick of a wrist instead of needing a crippling surgery and insane amounts of medicine...
With freely available reploids, rent a girlfriends, and maid cafes, why would you settle for an adept?
You're confusing trans with trap, cross dressing, and body swap again, anon.
>>534220762Sir, this isn't /sfg/, /ggg/ or /fgg/
Why do people ship her with Copen? Is it to mirror GV/Mytyl? Copen already has a waifu (Lola).
>>534223267>Why would you pick the real deal when a company can sell you an artifitial alternative that's subjected to their ToS
>>534223267What about adept maid cafe?
Isn't it fascinating how the Shantae series is 23 years old and just barely got it its 6th game?
Gunvolt is about half that age, and it has five titles, three collections, three spinoff games, and an OVA.
All I'm saying is maybe the GV series isn't as small as we make it out to be.
>>534223602Fucking where? Gunvolt has 0 fandom presence outside of 4chan.
>>534208712A lot, to the point that it's kind of annoying you asked this question because it will just lead to retarded answers.
>Dude, their names are.. le vaguely similar?Only in localization, at that.
>>534223602I don't think anyone actually ships them, it's more just a gag because she's love and he's ow the edge hate.
>>534223602>Why do people ship her with Copen?It's funny.
>Is it to mirror GV/Mytyl?Yes.
>Copen already has a waifu (Lola).This is the more common ship anyway. It is a bit weird (Copen created Lola from Asimov and Joule's blood, making her technically his and Asimov/Joule's daughter), but it's not the weirdest thing in Gunvolt.
>>534223935>Isn't it fascinating how the Shantae seriesNo.
>>534223267Reploids, maids, and adepts have their own appeals. I won't judge someone for preferring one or the others.
I will judge the fuck out of anyone who prefers rent-a-girlfriends, though.
>>534223807>glasses EliseI'm going to that cafe daily.
>>534223935Yesterday was Rareware's 40th anniversary and all they got was a poster with all it's characters drawn in CalArts style.
>>534224121>>534224113If the SP Mytyl timeline ever turns out to be more than just a gag, I hope that Zonda becomes friends with Mytyl and crushes on Copen. Extra points if we keep the adept vs non-adept conflict, so Copen can crusader larp.
>>534224302It's Evilise too. Superb.
>>534224121We do know roughly whom Acura ends up with, be it Effie from BMZ, or Kohaku and Null at the same time in iX like a true Gal Gun protagonist.
Never is Roro actually in the cards which I find amusing.
>>534224159Can't hear you, using my hentai app.
>>534224553>Never is Roro actually in the cards which I find amusing.I don't know about that.
>>534224465First let's see if Acura mode in GV3 triangle that's $200 edition he actually kills his enemies. Because iX Acura still is pretty ruthless.
>>534223935>Isn't it fascinating how the Shantae
>>534224750That's Roddy, he is the one with Effie. Whom is a robot ghost meaning she has a soul and is waiting at the afterlife.
The look on Mother's face when she gets there.
So the GV3 and iX endings are pretty hopeful. In the case of iX, there's plenty of bittersweet in there (in iX1, you had to murder your way though a bunch of enslaved adepts and then kill Mytyl, but your friends are alive and things look like they're going to change for the better, while iX2 has almost everyone surviving and even the main antagonist getting freed from her torment). How would modern INTI have done the GV1 and GV2 endings? What could they have done to make the endings less despairing?
Why are adept's transformation also called armed phenomenon? They thought they were in megaman? How did Inti get away with it?
>>534224358>CalArts styleThat's just insulting.
>>534225468It's honestly what Rare deserves
>>534225276GV2 is the only one that's outright sad, but the whole game is depressing if you know the backstory. From the interviews, I think that game actually broke INTI.
>>534223740Less lies and bullshit.
>GV2 ending
>sad
>despairing
>>534225415Because they arm up, through a sword, which is an esoteric and poorly understood phenomenon.
>>534225894If you think Cope doubling down on murdering adepts and abandoning his sister/humanity, Gunvolt ignoring Mytyl when they run into each other and both feeling empty and depressed from it, and Zonda getting killed by the protags when she was only a kid trying to shoulder her dead family's dreams and save her kind from oppression is happy, then I don't want to imagine what you'd think an actual sad ending would be like.
>>534226586>both feeling empty and depressed from itMytyl seemed happy. Had a big goofy smile.
>>534226586>If you think Cope doubling down on murdering adepts and abandoning his sister/humanity,That's good. All the adepts we meet are assholes.
>Gunvolt ignoring Mytyl when they run into each other and both feeling empty and depressed from itGunvolt has a superior waifu in Quinn. She's not an adept, is ritch, is not deranged, and all around perfect. He'll get over it. He barely remembers Mytyl from in GV3, but he does remember Quinn.
> Zonda getting killed Absolutely a good thing. Zonda as an egotistic sociopath. I don't care if she's a kid, she was a bitch and got what she deserved.
>>534226867>adepts badThis mentality is exactly why everything is shit in Gunvolt.
>>534226964Then maybe show some good adepts.
>>534225276GV3's ending kind of gives the impression that the world is doomed.
>>534226586>genocide cult taken out>antihero goes on sequel/spinoff bait self search journey>hero finally protected a smilehappier ending than like half of megaman
>>534227031You hate the one that fights for freedom out of a desire to maintain your own comfort.
Do you also wish Blade had died?
>>534227031GV3:
The dragon saviors were only bad because of the dragon radiation. It's heavily implied that adepts get kooky under the effects of armed phenomena as well, more so in GV3 than past games (it's outright stated by Nova in the drama CDs though).
GV2:
Zonda is one of the most compassionate characters in Gunvolt. This leads her to trying to topple the non-adepts to end the persecution and culling of adepts. Desna is also very kind to both adepts and non-adepts, and tried to spare Copen in his route. Most of Eden were okay kids and were radicalized against non-adepts by the heinous shit they'd do to them. They're victims too.
GV1:
Stratos was a nice guy before being experimented on. Elise refused to kill people, despite the researchers torturing her, and had to be mindbroken into it. Even Nova is an okay guy, given his circumstances, outside of his interactions with Gunvolt.
Most of the time, when adepts are fucked up, it's other people who fucked them up, and they take way more abuse than most people would take IRL to get them to that point.
>>534227486I got that too.
>>534227749>genocide cult taken outI don't remember Zonda saying she wanted to kill all nonadepts. That's certainly what Tenjian and Asroc want. Others in their organization are against killing all non-adepts (like Desna). Zonda's whole motive screed is
>>534119697 . She wants liberation. She sees that the liberation can only come when the nonadepts are subjugated. It's also implied that she wants coexistence, but thinks it's impossible due to her experiences with non-adepts. The cult stuff is there in the Japanese script as well, but it's not as heavily focused on. The Eden adepts all call each other comrades, even Zonda, since they're all meant to be "equal." See Gibril's line below from Eden's party:
>Pantera: Things don't go like one expects them to...>Gibril: If that's the case, how about you give it up already?>Pantera: Gibril?>Gibril: She doesn't wish for us to help her, does she?>Pantera: That's...>Gibril: Adepts can live freely. Wasn't that a rule of Eden? ... We already ensured her immediate safety. From now onwards it only involves her herself. There's no real need to get involved, is there?>Pantera: That's true... Indeed, she might not be in need of my help.>Gibril: If that's the case...>Pantera: However. It's true that she needs someone's help.>Gibril: Pantera...>Pantera: When I met Olga, I knew for sure. Her eyes, and her hands, they were indeed seeking salvation... As long as there are people who seek help, I shall use all of my strength, and relieve all people. That, is my LOVE!
>>534223990*and Xitter
But they are three times as unfunny as we are im addition to getting their panties in a twist over everything.
>>534224082>Only in localizationWay to prove you know nothing about either series
>>534229724Oops, it's the inverse. Yeah, sorry, I bounced off Gunvolt.
>>534229137>It's also implied that she wants coexistence, but thinks it's impossible due to her experiences with non-adepts.If I was a superpowered teenager and experience/saw half the shit that Eden did, carried out with the popular approval of the normies (who are also uglier on average and don't think like I do), I'd probably be a lot more open to fucking all of them over.
>>534229137>I don't remember Zonda saying she wanted to kill all nonadepts.indeed, she merely said she wants to empower and give free reign to adepts who want exactly that
>>534225468>>534225569Just you wait, Megaman is getting one of these for it's 40th anniversary too.
>>534230814I think the easiest way to get into ger mindset is through a colonial lens.
If any colonized person advocates for the removal of their savage oppressors and are thusly painted as evil terrorists by said oppressors, are they actually wrong?
Well no.
Japan's "peaceful" in the sense that there are no mass riots, but being an adept among non-adepts is still a raw deal since you'll be randomly disappeared and your cells harvested.
>>534227926>Do you also wish Blade had died?Yes. Imagine if the one time Copen managed to kill an Azure Striker was the one time he hoped to not have to.
>>534225701Adepts and monstergirls don't do that anon.
>>534231653They absolutely do.
>>534230727Anyways, it doesn't change the fact Pantera's weird extroverted cringelarp in the first game is enough to distance her from Pandora on a conceptual level. You can point at her true form's personality, but you can't distance her from that shameful embarrassment.
>>534231258No. She wants to empower all adepts, and let the dominoes fall where they be. Note that she uses the term subjugate when discussing the fate of nonadepts in her world, not destroy.
Here's what would happen if her plan went through. Some adepts would go on murder sprees. Others would try to stop them. Others wouldn't do shit. Her plan was doomed from the start, because for all of her intelligence, she's naive as fuck. She accuses GV of having a narrow outlook on things from growing up in a "peaceful country," but so does she. She's grown up in Eden's garden. She thinks that most adepts will be like her adopted family: that they will just come together, fight off the minos, and live in harmony. Even the ones who are serving will see the light in the end. Only a handful of bad adepts, like Gunvolt, will stay on the side of their oppressors. But adepts aren't like that. They're just as prone to fucking each other over as regular humans are, just with more bombast and fireballs.
>>534230814Not even that. One look at the average teenager on tick tock will show you that most of them have a persecution and victim complex. Now that I think about that, that would have been what iX2 should have been about.
>>534232012They don't anon, that's the point the monster is on the outside the girl on the inside, not the other way around like usual.
>>534232083She'd have to become a tyrant like Asimov to enforce her utopian ideals, and I don't think she'd take to it as well.
>>534231390>>534224358That's not CalArts you retarded fuck also neither of you are on topic either fuck off
>>534232706watercooler general btw
>>534232706It is
>>534232767Waterboarding general btw
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>>534233152Feels like that, at times.
>>534229137My favorite thing about Zonda is how much of a double subversion she is. From her design, you'd expect her to be cute and cuddly, but she's actually a bit of a pervert who talks with a creepy lack of inflection and is the figurehead/cult leader of a bunch of superpowered teenaged terrorists (or freedom fighters, take your pick). Dig a little deeper, and she's actually a really nice person. She'd be the nicest if you could get her to see non-septimals as more than just "those people who hate and hurt us." She's a mirage, or mirror, themed character.
>>534234692She's just another brat in need of correction. But she lives in a world where she has to kill an actual thunder god of armageddon to get said correction.
>>534234692>she's actually a bit of a pervertMore like a massive pervert. She'd fit right into GAL*GUN.
>>534235561That's the point! She was trying to bring things back to Gal Gun!
>>534232767>>534233152>>534233215I thought we were a aztec based race of magical lizard people who want to genocide the ratty and all the black races.
>>534236274Man, Sotek let himself go.
>>534236140>sympathizing for the dead loli villainess>wishing she'd have gotten redeemed and lived a full life/mmg/+/inti/ can't help themselves.
Would you look at that. Fanart of the reploid girl who contemplates death.
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>>534237070We love our evil women here.
>>534237124It looks like she's contemplating my death by her hand now.
>>534237124>rando npc actually gets fan art>it's brainwashing fetish stuffNow that just ain't fair.
Mentally unwell women, so erotic.
>>534232083>No. She wants to empower all adepts, and let the dominoes fall where they be.while knowing full well that some of those dominoes would make pol pot blush and a stated intention to do absolutely nothing before and when that happens
even the ideal version of her plan doesn't just happen to result in a pile of bodies, it's a foregone conclusion and specifically not doing anything to prevent it is the plan
that puts her past naive little girl way over in her head
>Note that she uses the term subjugate when discussing the fate of nonadepts in her worldshe does not
>>534238563No X for her to get no way fag'd by.
>>534238957You really want to feel good about killing her, don't you?
>>534239228And I shouldn't? She's evil. Evil people die. That is how things should work.
>but she's just an innocent k-Fuck off
>but we could redeem herNo you can't. And even if you did, she wouldn't deserve it. She must suffer for her crimes. Copen/Gunvolt was right when he said he wouldn't show mercy, even if she surrendered for what she had done. Justice stops for nobody.
Unironically psychotic, and unable to see the only hatred and evil in their heart. Sad.
>>534232061 She and Tenjian have a double boss fight. They even fit the same general theme (a witch and a swordsman)
>>534238993No sigma virus either.
>>534239551Surface level, and superficial.
>>534238563>>534238783She's too cute in this style.
>>534239694No one ever said references had to be deep. But it is there.
>>534239831>>534239228Purple eyes + blonde hair is such a good combo.
>>534239228no, I'm fucking tired of this dindu bullshit being pushed when the fucking game plainly tells you that despite her good intentions she's about to do something horrible and must be put down
>>534240148The script makes it clear that she's doing all of this shit for her own selfish aims. She never cared for anyone, even her brother. She just wanted to murder all the humans and rule as a god. She's Sigma tier in my mind, and needed killing. I hope she's burning in hell for what she did to Joule.
>>534240092You need to go out of your way to make an ugly blonde...
I've seen a surge of Berkanafagging in several parts of the internet. At the same time the internet is becoming oppresive.
>>534240412No it doesn't. None of that's true.
>>534240412>The script makes it clear that she's doing all of this shit for her own selfish aims.Maybe in 8-4's translation, but not in the original script.
>>534239452>She's evil. Evil people die.Romero
>>534240148You can believe that while still having sympathy for her. Most of us think that she needed to be stopped, especially once she started her ascension to octima, but it's still tragic, not a happy thing like you believe it to be. Even the game doesn't really treat it as happy. Her last words aren't about getting back at GV, they're crying out to her brother.
>>534241152>Most of us think that she needed to be stopped,Very, very, veeeheheeeehry wrong. And that's before GV3 proved her right.
>>534241354I really wish we would have gotten a Kirin vs Zonda bonus fight to conclusively show that Zonda was wrong, just like Nova and Zed were.
>>534241746Boss character from a BN mod.
>>534241594Why did they leave true Zonda out? She's the only main antagonist that didn't get a rematch.
>>534243937Probably because they thought the fight against her fake form was enough of a cameo. Of all the characters from the first two games, I think she's the one who deserved the Kirin treatment the most.
>>534241594But we didn't. Because she wasn't.
>>534240073Shallow connective tissue can be used to draw lines between many characters; it's like saying Lysa is a Prometheus parallel, because she uses one of his attacks, and wields a scythe, despite numerous detracting factors that make it a terrible comparison. Yes, there are similarities, but they're vastly different characters beyond these simple observations.
One must take other factors into consideration, such as motivations, personality, actions, character relationships, and likewise, consider detracting values when weighing the similarities to reach a conclusion. It would be like saying Dante and Spawn are parallels, because they're both dark heroes that wear red, use guns, and fight the forces of hell, or in the case of characters being presented by the same studio/creative minds, Olimar and Mario because their names are similar, they both have red, they deal with plant-life and they're paired with a partner that starts with 'L' despite being drastically different beyond these very surface-level observations. Through poor justification, it's easy to draw comparisons between characters - Crea and Prea are dual-fight siblings one could invoke in reference to the conversation, but that's so stupid I don't even wish to humor it beyond a name drop.
The question was "What's the difference", not, "What's the similarities.", after all. Pandora is an ellipsis beast of few words, and GV1 Pantera duo is so anathemic to her on a character level, that it crushes any superficial similarities - it's as far displaced from her as you can possible get, personality-wise. Beyond that, their power sets are drastically different (P&P are Duel element, Pantera is w/e the fuck & Tienjian is mono-element) they have different placements in power structure (Tenjian/Pantera are Co-leaders, P&P are followers) one pair has a matching naming convention (Satellites, but also Greek figures that have some connection in their stories) & the other doesn't (Car & a Missile??)
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>>534241354>GV3 proved her rightRight how. If anything 3 proves that neither Nova's nor Zonda's intervention was necessary.
>>534232258Wake up anon, they operate on anime logic. Not on hentai logic, and certainly not on niche ugly bastard vanilla hentai doujin.
Whom gets the girl in anime? The handsome protagonist. In harem anime? The handsome protagonist who may or may not be a super strong fighter.
Regular ugly-ass humans? Nothing. We get nothing, we are background characters. Get this through your head.
>>534140078>He taunted Zonda as she diedMaybe in the English version. It's been a while, but I'd imagine she deserved it. In the Japanese version, the exchange is:
>Pantera: Impossibleโฆ Whatโs happened? Our idealsโฆ Our paradiseโฆThe Cyber Divaโs powerโฆ shouldโve beenโฆ totallyโฆ compatible with meโฆ >Gunvolt: Maybe it was compatible with you, for all I knowโฆ But the Cyber Divaโฆ Cyanโฆ Isnโt a โthingโ! You canโt use her power, because you didnโt have her consent to do soโฆ >Pantera: Our utopia... it's... all falling apart... Brother...>[Pantera Dies]
>>534241594I like how the lack of that means that Inti didn't because we will see Kirin lose the moral argument instantly.
>>534245638GV proves that you have to police the fuck out of any adept nation AND that killing Gunvolt was a net good.
>>534247791Yeah, Kirin would love the
>I'll empower all adepts>This will allow them to break rise up against our oppresors>We'll establish an adept dominant worldwhere Zonda would lose her would be
>And then, we'll make sure those non-septimals can never hurt us again by killing them>Also, I'm eating Joule's soul to do all of the above
>>534248136Why would that be Zonda losing? Kirin is enabling the very same adept that is doing the very same thing she wished to do but at a higer scale.
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>>534247791>>534248136The fight would go like this:
>Hey, we're from the future. What you're doing isn't necessary. Adepts will become the dominate strain of humanity in your lifetime without the mass murder.And then Zonda stops, because she didn't really want to kill all non-adepts.
>>534249062What are minos doing in GV3's world? We never see them.
>>534249062Oh nonononono. There was a lot of genocide...but it happened offscreen between games like all the interesting things you hoped to see in 3.
>>534249191From the lorebits, they're either disempowered and under adept rule (but not anywhere near as oppressed as they did to the adepts), or have run off into the wilderness to form primitive enclaves where they ineffectually launch raids against the adepts with old gunpowder weaponry. So basically, Zonda won.
>>534247925>police the fuck out of any adept nationThat didn't happen in Japan or UAE (at least I think that's where Zed is). Racial tension still exist, but as per Zed's words Adepts victory is a foregone conclusion.
>killing Gunvolt was a net goodNo disagreement there.
>>534247548>Panteraywn be japanese
>>534249062>>Hey, we're from the future. [That thing about exterminating the minos with mass rape campaigns worked, do it even harder so that my own self from your timeline will never have to suffer a non septimal in her entire life]
>>534249493>Adepts victory is a foregone conclusion.No it's not, all minos need to do is stop putting golden rings in the fingers of the girls who look like fictional character they used to have a crush on and that love them for who they are. It's not that hard.
>>534249493I thought ZED was Egyptian, because of the Ra metaphors.
>>534250214He's Saudi Arabian.
>>534247791Wouldn't Kirin be predisposed against Zonda due to GV's horror stories?
>>534249405If the middle east muse looks like Shantae at home, how would the muse of other regions of the world look like?
>>534251260pic related is what the Chinese I don't think Zonda is Chinese, same as Layla isn't Middle Eastern muse looks like.
>>534251260>>534251523If Lola was created from Asimov's blood, does that make her American?
>>534249493>Adepts victory is a foregone conclusion
>>534240810>>534240929She's willing to callously sacrifice Tenjian, her own brother who raised her, as a pawn. She puts up a benevolent facade but it's obvious that she doesn't cares if anybody in Eden are dying. Deep down she really wants power more than anything. She is just another megalomaniac like Asimov. In her pre battle talk, it's all about her. Saving HERself, not everyone. heck, when you fight her as Copen he asks if she just wants to be a god to which she replies she's 'strongly considering it'.
>>534254674>She's willing to callously sacrifice Tenjian, her own brother who raised her, as a pawn. She puts up a benevolent facade but it's obvious that she doesn't cares if anybody in Eden are dying.Stop fucking lying.
>>534249062>Zonda powers down, relieved she doesn't have to fight anymore>Tenjian jumps in, screams bloody murder at you for tricking Zonda>steals the Muse shards, transforming himself into ice version of Demerzel (Cocytus?)>now you have to thaw his cold dead heart, with Zonda acting as your muse
>>534254674What is with this reddit opinion? It's almost exactly how they feel about her character.
>>534256327They don't want to feel bad about having to put down sad characters, so need to portray the baddies in the worst light possible or make up shit about them. The English translation doesn't help either.
>>534248136More like
>the minos live with us as equals>how dare you squander this chance to be rid of earth's disease! GV! Strike!
>>534256327She's made to disgust the westerner:
>loli>horny >wants true freedom for the oppressed>commie>has the mandate of heaven>is Chinese >killing her is objectively the worst thing you could do and it essentially doomed everyone
>>534256532I do wonder if the English version made Eden much more evil just to avoid players having to realize they were the villains of the story a second time.
>>534254674>sacrifice for a higer cause is ingerently evil I hope that whatever country put that blue pill inside your head gets invaded very soon.
>>534257465>Commie That's something them westards love. And that's something that Zonda was not. She's advocating for something closer to a theocracy. By the way, this is the same reason why they hate the Imperium of Man.
>>534257465>commie>chink Westerners especially zoomers love both of those things. Also Zonda is neither of those as well.
>>534258937>>534259090They think Denmark is communist, so they're not exactly bright.
I'm starting to think that this artist is Bond under a different alias.
>>534240412>>534254674The god shit keeps on coming up, but it's 8-4 once again taking liberties with her character. What she actually states is:
>Zonda: I can feel itโฆ My nakama live within me, within the โMirror Piecesโ Iโve absorbedโฆThis is my new power borne of loveโฆ The โDream Mirror (Wonderland)โ 7th Wave (Sevens)โฆItโs not the Phantom Mirrorโs (Mirrorโs) pretenseโฆ The Dream Mirror (Wonderland) creates a true image. Itโs the power to create anything.>Copen: Creation? Youโฆ You pretend that youโve become a God!>Zonda: If that is what people desire, then I might consider being a Goddess. I am the maiden and the bellwether that shall guide my comradesโฆ guide the Psychics to Utopia (Eden)โฆ>Copen: What dangerous thinkingโฆ! Iโll pass judgment to you here and now!>Zonda: Come, Acura. Either the psychics will win, or the powerless will win. This is our struggle for survival, with each of our kind's prosperity at stake. >Copen: It's us humans who are the superior race... Don't get too cocky, you monster! Iโll wipe outโฆ those heretical beliefs. vs
Zonda : The shards give form to the power of my comrades... Behold my new Septima, Reverie Mirror! No longer do I make illusion. I now craft reality itself!
Copen : You think to become a god, Zonda?
Zonda : Let's just say I'm strongly considering it. I am a guide for Adepts as we travel to our utopia.
Copen : You're too dangerous to live, Zonda.
Zonda : The Adept against the human, at long last. We battle for the very future of our existences.
Copen : Humanity always finds a way to beat back the monster. Time to banish your illusions from this world for eternity!
>>534259236Westoids that (think) they love communism believe Denmark is communist? Are you sure? To be honest I can't even remember the last time someone even mentioned Denmark.
>>534258937>That's something them westards love. And that's something that Zonda was not. She's advocating for something closer to a theocracy. By the way, this is the same reason why they hate the Imperium of Man.Eden bounces between anarchy and socialism. They serve as the antithesis to Sumeragi, which is a despotic greedy mega-corporation. Eden's central belief has always been that adepts should be free to decide their fates and be happy.
>>534259638>It's us humans who are the superior raceOur hero everyone.
>>534259779They mention Nordic countries or Europe because communism to them is either scary red wave propaganda or simply regulations and Healthcare borne from imperialism.
>>534259638Really need to pair Copen up with an adept wife, and Zonda up with a minos. For the lulz.
>>534260026It's extra ironic, since he unknowingly cavorts with demons, while adepts are angel blooded.
>>534260026Isn't Copen basically how most 4channers would feel about Zonda and adepts?
>>534261219Yeah, 4chan hates anime girls.
>>534263573I though the helmet was part of the body
>>534260620If anything Pantera marrying a minos would be her ultimate validation. Adept liberation led to true love.
>>534263573How? The ponytail is still solid!
>>534261219>Says this when most people here would glady hide an adept girl on their attic from the gestapo...or Gunvolt, if they were real.
>>534266398Dueling for what? Who keeps the groom?
>>534266398In case one of the bridesmaids feels like she should have a go at the groom.
>>534266398I want to duel her in my bed.
>>534266398>anon putting the Kirin poster on his bed
Who knew that EN!Morpho can actually scream like a rabbit?
https://x.com/Tonkhaikichi/status/1953242391688954313?t=-5Elo1B-_jhmQpHZE7Vw3A&s=19
>>534270014So she's gotten Desna's crystal ball?
>>534266398An adept wedding is a like a Saxon wedding, as in the bride and bridesmaids attack the groom's house, steal him away, and then they get married.
>>534267143Who puts a racist glowie's normal wedding photo in their room?
>>534270170>wow, even Tenjian gets married to a minos. We cannot fail in our plan
>>534270337This fanart really captures her personality in the drama CD well.
>>534270337did i save a smaller version?
How many people want a Mytyl game just for the hope that they'll get to hang out with some of the old villain characters?
>>534261219I don't know about 4chan posters, just myself abut my yearning for Elise to smile, but if you've seen how most people react to cruel oppression and genocide you'll see many will support the carnage with glee, a few will stand up against it, more will run cover for it, and most will simply be indifferent.
However in their world anti adept fanatics will butcher and lynch any minos they suspect are so much as keeping adepts hidden.
I wonder how many adept sympathizers have been massacred such as Asroc's family that Eden knows off.
>>534270915I just want a side story that doesn't end with undertones of human extinction and abject misery.
iX got close, but [Empty] is very fucking painful.
>>534270915If a Mytyl game ever gets made, I hope that the character backgrounds aren't retconned to be happier. Elise and Merak still get bullied, Nova still takes out his trauma from the lab on GV, Zonda and Tenjian still have the most fucked up lives ever, and so on. The pain is what makes the characters interesting and even pitiable. However, Mytyl will interact with the characters in a very different way than GV and Copen. My expectation, however, is that a Mytyl game would pretty much drop every character outside of GV, Mytyl, Copen, and Xiao. This is in spite of many people at INTI really wanting to have a core cast they can recycle, like MMZ/MMZX, BMZ, and so on. They get overruled by the creative leads.
>>534271335Desna fled from her home to protect her village from being slaughtered. She was one of the few adepts who was loved by everyone around her. Her whole village was trying to hide her from the hunters (how she ended up hidden away in her parent's attic like Rapunzel).
>>534270915What even is the expected gameplay for that thing? A hack and slash would be the most lore appropiate opntion but Inti ain't doing that shit, and the people who can don't seem to be cheap...even if most of them are out of a job right now.
There's two Megaman generals and none of them talk about Megaman.
>>534272238Some ideas floated are just another Gunvolt, Shantae, Nobeta, turn based RPG, and Grim Guardians/Metroidvania. Whatever it is, I think it should be crazier than GV.
>>534272406Yeah, Gunvolt's shining lately.
If you wanna talk about Mega Man then do it, though.
>>534249405This is an edit.
had one of the worst seeds ever
no weapons in 2 games, and fucking gravity well in the last
spent half an hour just walking through stages getting shot at looking for items
>>534272406It makes sense here, but why would the other one not.
Anyway just bring it up what you want to talk about. If it starts a discussion, good; if not, try again later. That's all it is.
>https://dengekionline.com/articles/130438/
I find it hilarious how Gibu's character/design/backstory took half a year to create. The writers apparently went crazy with her, and she had a novel of character development behind her of her time on the anarchic streets of London after her father beat her mother to death, getting forced into a gang, being forced to murder, and all sorts of shit that justify how a 14-year-old could get so fucked up. Yet in the actual game, she's just a one-off boss. Apparently, she's not the only Eden character like this.
>>534276413Megaman X3 randomizer?
>>534276979Eden does have ridiculously deep and fucked up backgrounds for how they got to be the way they are. In GV1, half the bosses were
>I work with Sumeragi cause I like getting payedand that was it.
>>534276980X1-3 route matrix
>>534276979>we used to think that Inti was so good at character development that they could make even the one off boss fodder this good >turns out they were basically sending their best and most developed charcaters ever made to be made into basically human sacrifices to the boss's MC that was rather half baked to boot and on a game who's sales were rather mehOk now I see why the staff went into mutiny after that game
>>534276979>>534277147Then maybe they should give Gibril a spin off game. Most of the heavy lifting was done by MN9 anyways. Also her magnet powers could make for some great puzzle stages.
>>534276936Do you folks think that Capcom will just re re re release all the collections of the Switch 2?
>>534277696unlikely since there's backwards compatibility*
>>534276979I bet she wasn't even into death metal until a couple years ago and she does it just to have a personality.
>>534277862>and she does it just to have a personality.>To hide that she's an otaku.FTFY
>>534254674no anon, you're only supposed to use 8-4 script when it paints her in a better light
>>534277696I don't think Capcom wants anything to do with Mega Man anymore.
>>534277262The design process of GV2 seemed to be that everyone would write their own character, then Tsuda would decide what to do with em in the game proper. Itโs why Eden feel so fleshed out. Surprisingly, they have some amazing chemistry with one another as well. I remember seeing some interviews with INTI after GV2 to the effect of saying they donโt like killing the cool bosses off either.
>>534272680Shantae sounds like a good compromise, you get zany adventures, lewd, recurring characters, and plenty of opportunities for comedy.
Imagine Mytyl arguing with the in-game text box over robbing a baby. Yes Shantae does that, and the item keeps changing names.
>>534277262>>534278308It's really damn funny. People spent time, genuine love and care into everyone. Except Milas.
Then the boss says his OC Locke fanfic dude kills them all.
GV2 is truly a special game and we're never getting another like it from inti. For good and ill.
>>534276979Thatโs probably why, between the games and drama CDs, she comes off as a nuanced character. Sheโs not always a rageholic. She has a friendly, even heroic side to her, yet she does some of the most heinous shit in the franchise (see what happens to Quinnโs classmates).
>>534278594It led to some great tragedy kino though, Iโll give them that.
>>5342787013d beat-em up. I miss Senran Kagura.
>>534278701Wouldnโt really match how broken Mytyl should be. Itโs also difficult to design a good boss in beat em ups.
>>534278412The best would be if the setting overall was still dark, edgy, and fucked up, while Mytyl herself feels like she was dropped in from a much lighter series. Make Mytyl work towards getting that wallpaper timeline, donโt just hand it to her.
>>534278114>2 more Megaman X comics in the works
>>534278701Give me a good second player and clothes damage when they are low on HP (River City Girls should have had that) and it's a deal.
>>534276979>The writers apparently went crazy with herIt was the details of her armored form that the team got into an autism beam exchange over.
The only comment we have on her character planning is that somebody specified she's a super masochist, and her falling for GV was the writer's idea since he likes love comedies.
>>534276979That sounds really sad. I canโt imagine putting that amount of love in a character and then see it used in such a way.
>>534280423Sounds like INTI.
>>534277696I'll be honest, I really don't get the appeal to rerelease, at least not in this age.
If there are significant changes made, sure; and years back it doubles as physical backup.
But nowadays it comes off like trying to squeeze few more bucks out of the loyal customers.
>>534278114I'll wait until September 2026 to see if we get a SF Collection announced. If it's 20th anniversary passes and they do nothing with it, then I'll have to agree.
I'm holding onto hopes though, the time is still on our side.
They should make a fighting game with the bosses, the world needs more Discord fighters with worse netcode than Nen Impact and daily peaks of 4 or 5 people.
Also live 2D cut-ins for the special moves, these are always cool.
>>534280987And if it doesn't, then what will you do?
>>534281219>just realized that MMBN Legacy Collection was announced only 2 years after BN's 20th anniversaryWait until 2028 lmao
>>534281312Man.. reading this interview makes me feel like they're not gonna do a Star Force Collection.
If it took a loud outcry for a popular series like BN for Capcom to greenlight it, then it would take a miracle for a lesser-known series like SF to get approved, one that admittedly didn't bring them half as much revenue.
And with the game being full of 3D Models they'd have to rework them to be at least in HD, which is a ton of work for all 3 games...
>>534281765Z/ZX has a collection, and no one but me even likes those games
>>534281884But I like these games t-too...
>>534281964then I guess you're me
>>534281765>And with the game being full of 3D Models they'd have to rework them to be at least in HD, which is a ton of work for all 3 games...DS models are surprisingly high detail, the could just up the resolution and call it a day
>>534280278Wayforward played it too safe with River City Girls, Inti should one-up them.
Maybe we'll even see Shinobu in all hee deadbeat glory.
The two Pandoas arrived at customs in France
>>534281179It's a shame Examu/Team Arcana is kinda dead now, they could have made that since they also used to work for instant ramen.
>>534287801>FranceOh shit oh fuck
Pandoa.
PanDOA.
Pandora playing beach volleyball, the most violent of savage display that passes as a sport.
>>534288896For me it's Al Azif, Muramasa, and Dragon
>Adjustments have been made for French, Italian, German, Spanish, Portuguese, Traditional Chinese, and Simplified Chinese, along with fixes for microphone issues.
https://x.com/GunvoltOfficial/status/1953412881061707997
Guys I'm starting to think that adepts are le BAD
>>534281884This whole general was made from the people who loved those games.
>>534245070Lumen and Lola were the Crea and Prea references
>>534284316The first game was fine for what it was... exept for that original ending. It's the second one who messed up by not making the other pair of girlfriends playable, making a pair of Reddit OCs playable instead of them, and making the rest of the game too sameish to the first one.
>>534288896>>534281179Fighting games will fucking die as a whole once Marvel Tokkon dies on it's feet.
Nintendo Indies Direct.
https://www.youtube.com/live/QFiuI4l2KII?si=ENeDMNmQ63wy-BJY
>>534301718any megaman news
>>534307894yes more merchandise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6ny763n24s
>>534301718Of course there's a cat game, why wouldn't there be
>>534309846The lemon bit actually got me lmao
>>534310445The booty is now 3d!
The JP Indie direct is different and better. Did it show anything by Inti?
>>534301718>Minishort and nopan >Says that this is what she normally wears on her days off >Somehow neither Bolo or mayor scruttlebutt have made some 1/4 genie babies with her
>>534310445Wasn't there an Ashe figure before that one?
>>53429949390% of the times, they're forced into it or have some sob story to justify their behavior. And even in the latter cases, some of them don't want to be evil, they just don't see a better option. It's very much like MMX and reploids.
>>534314927I don't think so
First one from Takagi
Clearly Inti should make a Panty and Stocking game
>>534315214>MMX and reploidsSo Gunvolt wants to kill them all but needs an excuse before going into a murderspree. And there's this evil baldie that's happy to give him an excuse every year.
>>534315214I like how Inti accidentaly proved that in a post minos society, there's gonna be a ton of femcels.
>>534313434Like that kid says, she's very popular with his dad.
Likely with a lot of dads, but at that point they can't act on it, being married and all.
>>534316893Honestly with how gung-ho he can be about killing, it wouldn't surprise me if deep inside GV was as capable of turning into a dictator as Asimov was.
I'm aware there was something like masked GV in some early draft, so too bad they don't touch on that. Would've made for a nice redemption arc.
>>534317110Yeah that is pretty funny.
POV you are a Regina unit on her last day
>>534318081More like POV: you're leeching more content from the dead general
>>534318497Danbooru is a dead general?
>the crayon eater is raiding once more
the saddest thing is, they are sending their best...
Reminder
Intercreates are makers of bad plots
Dischord is maker of bad societies
Brain is maker of bad newsposts
Puresabre is maker of bad hacks
JBK is maker of bad deadlines
Rolefag is maker of bad OPs
Dualfujo is maker of bad generals
Damn that cursed Rolefag always pushing for more BN and Starforce games!
Nep 3 btw. For the one other person interested.
Maybe that's how a Mytyl game could be based on, but with clothes damage.
>>534317174For an arab based game and in a world filled to the brink with monstergirls to boot, there an interesting lack of harems.
>>534319759Imagine if SoTD or Majogami was animed in the Lab 0 engine.
>>534319759Both /nepgen/ and /atg/ have to deal with the fact that their devs threw them under a bus to chase the wider audience.
>>534319196>Intercreates are makers of bad plotsPlots in video games aren't as important as character and setting writing. In fact, the best game writing typically has extremely simple plots, but complex and likable characters in a well-thought-out world.
>>534320896>In fact, the best game writing typically has extremely simple plots, but complex and likable characters in a well-thought-out world.Like Taimanin?
>>534319980The spirit is willing but the body is spongy and weak.
>>534321346He said likeable characters.
>>534321346No like Luminous Arc 3 and Stella Glow
>>534321567At least getting an official Taimanin cube is easier than getting a Wanvolt plushie or a Roroball.
>>534321783Unironically yes
>>534280278>>534278701Who would be player 2?
>>534323035One of these two if they're based.
Somebody totally new if they cop out and set it after the events of GV2 (so everyone is dead).
"Tlupp"
Samus Aran hit sound effect
Super Metroid
>>534323380Stick em both in. That way, we can have a magical girl trio.
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>>534324241You mean the muse from Eden's Party?
>>534324989>Mytyl = Ilya>Joule = Miyu>Chloe = Zonda
>>534325365She's angry, bitter. Her friends and comrades, her shot at happiness. All snuffed out with extreme prejudice.
It was adepts that did this.
First minos massacred her family, now adepts too. No one can be trusted.
>>534325365Technically her Septima acts like a copy ability of sorts. Which honestly makes her perfect as a playable character come to think of it.
>>534326064Shouldn't Joule be Chloe considering it fits Illya-Chloe connection?
>>534326206If GV or Cope didn't kill her, the cleanup operation afterward did. I don't think that many people got out of the gardens, even the noncombatants.
>>534326568>Shouldn't Joule be Chloe considering it fits Illya-Chloe connection?Not in terms of personality and group dynamics.
>>534326206>>534326718I thought the original suggestion meant it as a spin-off a la iX following GV3 secret ending.
This
>>534323380 was the first guy to bring up it possibly taking place after GV2.
>>534317468>it wouldn't surprise me if deep inside GV was as capable of turning into a dictator as Asimov wasIMO Gunvolt's main weakness is that he has all the power needed to make positive change, but doesn't take on responsibility or leadership. Blade is basically him with a vagina, so it really is a matter of him being a destructive retard.
gunnervoltson has no weaknesses
>>534328070Cut him some slack. He's a 14-year-old lab experiment turned child soldier raised by an equally traumatized and deranged edgelord.
>>534329234Blade was also a 14 year old lab experiment child soldier, but she had like an actual family and morals so that's the difference I guess.
Why is Rollnigger bringing FGO shit here
>>534326568An angry nihilistic magical girl, with power of mimicry so no matter that power level boost Mytyl gets Olga matches her.
A woman who's life was destroyed by the same things that built Mytyl's life.
Her despair was the price for Mytyl's peace and happiness.
There can be no peace between them, no common ground or understanding.
Only hate.
>>534326947So we need a gyaru Zonda that's a prude?
>>534330496Silly anon, you don't get to 'hate' in a magical girl genre unless you're written by Gen Urobuchi
>>534330496Olga is like 8. Sheโs not rival material. Zonda slots in much more neatly. Her visual design is already a dark reflection of Joule and Mytyl, and her personality is very magical girl coded.
>>534330030>biggest cunny general on /vg/>why is one of the biggest appeals brought on hereImagine.
>>534332168She looks a bit older here, like sheโd be around GV and Copenโs age.
>>534331820>biggest cunny general on /vg/Wouldn't that be /bag/, or the kemono friends general?
>>534332330That's literally anywhere but here. Rollfag is a fucking retard.
>>534334046>nerfed Prairie titsOh boy starting strong
>>534334286Did you expect anything actually good?
>>534334286Somebody photoshop her bigger
>>534334286It was the cost to buff Pando's (we see a roundness with the shading on her crop top)
>>534334046How much you wanna bet they write their skin as a bodysuit?
>>534332862So use le non-Rollfag thread
>>534334046This cover makes a lot of emphasis on hands and arms.
>>534332168I wonder if she'd ever outgrow the bow, going by her fake adult persona. Kind of weird to keep larping as Alice in Wonderland when you're a grown woman.
>>534335137stuck at customs
>>534334860INTIโs design for a teenaged Zonda didnโt have a bow.
>>534334860Don't kinkshame.
If nobody has ideas I'm using this
>>534334046 for the OP, you've been warned
>>534132972We should use this for the next OP.
>>534336943No, let's not.