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What is /crpgg/?
This general is dedicated to the discussion of comfy role playing games such as:
Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Pentiment, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, Solasta, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Rogue Trader, Dark Heresy, Wasteland and many others.

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Previous: >>533843829

>Thread Question
Your bets on those two other, still unrevealed, licensed Owlcat's crpgs? What will they be?

>playing Pathfinder
>turn to controlling my fighter MC
Fun
>turn to controlling any other characters or watch the enemy move
Not fun
Why is this?

THE crpg moment that defined a generation
https://youtu.be/7fE6V4dhGrM

Which mythic path will benefit a Magus character the most?
Speblades are my favorite type of character even though they are always pretty mediocre so I'd like to get the most out of it if possible

Galfrey rejected me for being too silly. Then I did a lich run and made her my undead slave.

>>533969056
Azata

>>533969056
trickster

>>533969113
Make her wear one of those "born to shit, forced to wipe." grim reaper shirts

>>533969148
>>533969335
I forgot Azata existed. What are they again? Theyre like trickster but not as fun?

>>533969565
They're power of friendship cosmic hippies. You get a power of friendship dragon mascot character

>>533969565
freedom fairies

>>533969565
Hippies.

>>533969565
Power of friendship and your friends are somehow more mentally disabled than you are. Also singing the song of Elysium.

>>533969565
they're shit

>>533969687
God i wish Azata wasn't so fucking silly its a neat idea and Azata to Devil is kino in theory but its just too fucking stupid and takes me out of it, its not even funny so its just cringe

Kanerah is the best owlcat waifu

>RT
>doing jae's quests
>stealth quest in a game with no stealth mechanics and dogshit pathfinding
what the actual fuck were they thinking? at least in their pathfinder games you could sneak. they take out the sneak skill and then add stealth quests? how about you just don't add any stealth quests or at LEAST implement it in a way that isn't fucking eye rollingly miserable

>>533970013
>its not even funny so its just cringe
I felt that way about Trickster, the karmic punishments you could do were kind of kino though, but that's all

>>533970105
I never had any issues with it

Why is Lady konomi suddenly nice to me now that I'm a full Lich? Am I able to kill her?

>>533970105
Bring a sniper and just kill everyone lmao

>>533970013
>Azata to Devil is kino in theory
How does that work?
I only vaguely remember the devil guy trying to tempt me in my Aeon playthrough and I can see how some neutral autist might do it but why would a good guy hippie fag do it?

>>533968758 (OP)
They said at least one of their other projects is fantasy so I assume it will be Exalted, since that's one of the few settings they didn't rule out in their interviews. On the other hand, the mega faggots chose a random ass TV show and book series for their Mass Effect copycat, so maybe they can dig deeper into the pit of garbage out there and find something else that's utter dreck to work on.

>>533970262
She wants you to bone her.

>>533970105
What games do have good stealth? Feels like it doesn't work well in any real time CRPG.
It felt fantastic in Colony Ship. Fantastic in the sense that it nearly trivialized any combat encounter which you could start in stealth.

>>533970105
It's mind numbingly easy though. Just time the patrols. Or simply kill them with a one shot if you are feeling lazy.

>digging around in sewertown looking for a random whore and doing her bidding instead of flying to the defense of your stranded, burning, starving, corrupted worlds

>>533970331
>why would a good guy hippie fag do it
Because the cosmic power you hold doesn't actually say anything about you as a person. It's just all Areelu Whorelesh' sleeper agent master plan to rebirth her kid.

>>533970331
>why would a good guy hippie fag do it?
Hippies are evil

Man Eldar Rangers on Quetza didn't even let me move

>>533970641
VtMB.

>>533971131
>your stranded, burning, starving, corrupted worlds
why are you so bad lmao??

>>533969565
They're reddit

>>533971680
No

>>533971528
How bad R U?

>>533970637
>She wants your bone

Hoping they will take their time with Dark Heresy considering how much of a smash hit RT was and it was basically a half-assed experiment. Never want to see this Paizo shit again.

>>533971816
So are you for playing WotR instead of the 4chan choice video game, Baldur's Gate 2

>>533969056
eon, you know why

>>533972459
Baldur's Gate 2 is as bad as Baldur's Gate 3

name a good dnd video game

>>533972639
Temple of Elemental Evil
Knights of the Chalice
Dragon's Dogma

>>533972459
>baldur's gate two
we almost got gay valygar and bi Haer'Dalis. I wonder how that would have changed him competing for aerie

>>533972639
Planescape Torment

>>533972785
mercedes wife

>>533973365
The goat

>>533972639
need to finally play Wake of the Ravager sometime

I want actual info on DH (and Expanse too I guess) and not this art dump again

Owlcat has already surpassed old BioWare in the quality of their RPG offerings *drops mic*

DnD was never good

>>533974030
*picks up the mic and yells slurs*

>>533973741
Cute feet

>>533974292

What is the point of daggers in pathfinder
Arent shortswords better in literally every way?

>>533975305
>Calls himself a Knifemaster
>But doesn't use knives.

>>533975458
ummmm daggers aren't knives, knives have a single sharp edge while daggers are double edged

Damn that idiot really thought daggers were knives
Thats crazy

>>533975305
One of the failures of the D&D system, certain weapons are specifically made weak so useless casters can have weapons they wield, instead of forcing them all to just wave their hands or a wand.

How are azata hippies
Half of their route is them killing stuff

>>533974030
Until they have a giant like mass effect or even dragon age they will never reach Bioware.

>>533974030
They absolutely did not, fucking philistine

bioware lapdogs are barking again

>>533974030
All of Owlcats games combined fail to match BG2 alone.

Is there anything with a 2025 release date?
Seems like everything I anticipate releases 2026.
And I do not play EA in general, so not trying shit like Titan Quest 2

>>533976415
Neither of those games were quality

>>533978025
Nothing really.

>>533978025
Octopath Traveler 0 comes out in December.

>>533978312
Welp, time to wait for Gothic remake I guess

I love Baldur's Gate.

>>533974030
they hated him because he told the truth or whatever that shit meme is

>>533978025
Temple of Elemental Evil steam release is next month...

>>533978415
weg looking ass game
>>533978025
bloodlines 2

>>533978579
Nobody is playing bl2

>>533978579
Oh. I completely forgot about that one.
>>533978553
I have a set-up of it already, but that is nice.

I hope 2026 is the year Monomyth and Archaelund come out

Half Life 2 crpg

>>533978025
Heroes of the Seven Islands
>>533978645
somebody has to

>>533978835
>Monomyth
Thanks for the reminder
Ive had it on my wishlist for a while now

>can't call Uralon for ablutions

>>533979627
Chaos never bathes

>>533978415
I hate how easy Act 3 is, why are developers so allergic to have rising difficulty when player power is at their highest both gearing and stat wise? Just look at The Guild encounter with Zhentarim, there are like 6 Zhents vs 10 Guild members or ambush in the garden by 4 Bhaal assa, give me 20+ thugs that are around 11-12 and actually pose some kind of threat to the player

>>533973741
Modern game devs treat every interaction with their community like an interrogation. You're better off hoping for leaks than for Owlcat to reveal something substantial.

>>533979736
>give me 20+ thugs that are around 11-12 and actually pose some kind of threat to the player
Seems like Owlcat's kino game design to me.

So since I didn't build Society of Cartographers I can never complete the genestealer mission?

>>533978835
>Monomyth
Let me guess, we venture into the underworld with the guidance of our mentor, having first refused the call, and along the way we encounter both helpers and enemies, we retrieve the talisman and return home in triumph, though changed by the experience

>>533979941
You need to complete any T5 project on Dargonus.

>>533979979
Hero's Journey seems like ass-pull

>>533968758 (OP)
Can't believe that the otherwise respectable abyss pirates are lettinh a "kineticist" lead them.
A dwarf kineticist to boot.
Noit going to lie, I kind of expected more from the big main island that you need 5 certificates to even reach. A regular romp through waterways and then some dude who dies in single combat round. The loot wasn't even that good. What a fucking waste.

I was going to post some shit, but I forgot what I was going to say

Finally came back after my crpg break.
Is WotR still the best game ever made?

>>533970641
JA3 has a lot of it. I wouldn't say it's fantastic but it's at least something. Not only is it vital for positioning, but you have to be aware of noise alerting other nearby enemies. You can also get stealth kills, which is immediate death on their part without shouting or anything. It's not guaranteed but there are things you can do to increase the chance. Then there are different states like when they are suspicious, completely unaware, surprised, etc.
It mainly does boil down to just positioning and quiet kills though, at least so far. I suspect there will be more opportunity later to do things like set remote explosives.

>>533969565
Dedicated woman mythic route

Why are you guys boring today?

>>533970105
The stealth mechanic is "stay away from the guys"
Look quickly around the corner and see if they're coming
Just like in real life
What more did you want

>>533981462
its not my job to entetain you, daeran.

>>533981215
I got myself in a real pickle and had to restart so MD is back alive. I really don't know why he picked mercenary work, it feels like the wrong career path for him.

>"GW,we want a warhammer fantasy crpg"
>"sure,here you go"

>>533981215
I once had a lucky streak and Igor stealthily killed half the enemy force

>>533981679
>Age of Sigmar

>The monster disappeared, and silence returned once more. Steam rises from freshly baked cookies and fragrant tea on the table. Arueshalae gazes at her dream. You've never seen such joy on her face. “I... I just want to live here, in the mortal world. With you. I've solved the goddess's riddle. This is my true dream!”

>Arueshalae’s fragile body flares with a rainbow light, a swarm of blue butterflies surrounds her. She looks at you with shining eyes. “I love you. Will you be with me? Will you share my dream?”

>The girl flinches, but doesn’t pull her hand away. She squeezes your hand with her dry, hot fingers. “I believe you. You must be real — I don’t want to imagine a world where you’re not.”

>As if she was just waiting for that, Arueshalae answers your smile with one of her own. “Together, no hardship will scare us. We’ll get through it! We definitely will!”

>The heat radiating from Arueshalae’s body warms you and fills you with peace. Closing her eyes, she leans closer into you, her face moving toward yours...

>Arueshalae takes your hand in her small, hot palm, and the world around you fades away.

I bless this thread with my hands.

>>533982513
I bless your mouth with deez crpgs nigga

>>533972639
Solasta

>>533980290
Oh I did that! So when do I kill those genestealer scum?

Name a bad DnD video game

>>533983005
Eye of the beholder for the GBA
Descent to Undermountain
Neverwinter MMORPG
Anything mobile

>>533983005
all of them

>>533982925
The final push against the genestealers will happen out of the blue during a warp jump. Be patient

Do you still have the Three Sorrowful Phalanges quest? That's supposed to advance during warp jumps but sometimes it needs a push from toybox. It's not necessary to complete the genestealers though, it's just a side thing

I wanted to try Necromancer's Tale but I don't know what stats to take. Send help.

>>533982925
To complete the quest you need to kill the jeanies on Dargonus (go to Dargonus in colony screen after you already did the T5 dilemma), kill the cult on your ship (happens during random warp jump in act 4) and kill the ones on that crashed ship (some planet in the north of the map).

>>533983005
Baldur's gate 2
Not even trolling. I liked BG1 but by the time I got out of the underdark I just realized I wasnt having fun the combat was just a slog and there was basically no plot happening

>>533984141
Go for the soft skills
I forget what they're called, convince, perception etc

>>533984520
BG2 sort of loses its way after you get enough money to rescue Imoen
Chapter 2 is best and collecting money is driving that

>>533984520
I also think BG1 is better. It's always seemed weird to me that certain people are so adamant that BG2 is so superior, and even recommend skipping BG1, which is totally bizarre to me.
Even hotter take: I'd play SoD again before playing ToB again.

>>533984141
a)Get at least SOME strength to make combat a bit less tedious
b)Convince is THE stat if you want to do the talky route. Acuity to get more info from everything you do.
c) Failing checks can be funny and you have alternate routes
d) Agility did not seem to matter that much, but perhaps I missed possible checks.
e)Lots of things can be bypassed by talking to people or manually clicking on things ,reading books etc (aka, easier to convince cause you learned something, read a book to bypass knowledge check). So you can get mroe solution than yo think
f) Pick a background that boosts the skills you like the most (scholar for knowledge shit, military if you want to boost strength etc)

Are any levels of Shifter worth dipping into for my Bloodseeker?
Just trying to see if I can squeeze out any extra value from the inherent bite attack I get. The level 20 capstone ability seems pretty good and hard to pass up though...

>>533984895
I don't know anything about SoD other than the tranny shit but ToB is pretty much the Brynnlaw-Underdark slog sequence but even longer, with mandatory 10+ round buffing and sponge enemies so i think i get it
the final fight with Ascension is FUN however

>>533985793
the inherint bonus does not stack with the +4 tome in the dance of masks dlc unfortinately or the tomes in the main game

>>533985793
Shifter is a majority level class, really.
Something like fighter levels for weapon training or specialziation or perhaps vivi would help more(not as much with feral mutagen being less valuable, but Alchemical bonuses are rare still)

>>533985793
No
losing 6 lvls of bloodseeker isn't worth

Playing VTMB for the first time, are these stats good?

>>533986591
ye

>>533986591
That's fine but early game firearms are actual dogshit but they're near required by the end. So know that if combat feels like shit with your build, it's probably not you.

>>533986591
>woman
Subterfuge is meh, you want SOME brawl/melee to start with

SOMEONE'S DEATH WISH IS MINE TO GRANT EEEEEYUUUGH I'M DONE WITH THIS ONE EEEEEEEYAAAGH

>>533986591
pick gangrel and full melee

>>533987227
if he weren't such a nerd, i'd say that line is ice cold

>>533987261
fem gangrel has an ass to rival fem malk

>>533986591
I wouldn’t play a malk your first time.

>>533944225
You can play a character without dialogue skills just fine.
There a few persuasion checks and stuff but nothing thats going to make a huge difference to anything.

>>533968758 (OP)
Made to be exclusively impregnated by me

>>533986591
>female
I know what you are anon

>>533974030
Baldurs gate 1 and 2 still shit on any owlslop.

in the new york city of 2094, giving blood isn't voluntary

>>533985907
>I don't know anything about SoD other than the tranny shit
Protip: don't let loud retards form your opinions for you, it's very womanly. I almost missed the "tranny shit" when I played it, it's extremely unnoteworthy, like one line from an optional companion and you have to ask about it. Only the truly fragile turn this into Beamdog LITERALLY killing their grandmother. If you like IE games then it's worth playing through once, they do a few neat little things with the engine and there are a few interesting encounters of a kind you don't see in BG1&2.

>>533968952
play skyrim

Sebille...

skyrim mogs any owlcat game

>>533989824
I can't remember anything about skyrim other than parthunaax it's kind of shit. They also made dark brotherhood god awful compared to oblivion. Shit was a straight downgrade from oblivion beyond the graphics I think. Even the skills were retarded. And don't get me started on the magic which was literally just different colored bullshit lmao

>>533990145
I remember the Thief Guild missions were mainly about killing people and very little thieving

>>533968952
>play rogue trader
>have to level up all the characters I dont give a fuck about after every other fight
I ended up just starting randomly clicking shit and lowering the difficulty if it got too hard

>>533990145
>They also made dark brotherhood god awful compared to oblivion
uhm, Emil did a fantastic job please don't harass or speak ill of his great work

>>533990430
Well he did make them a fortune off of drooling retards so I guess he did great

>>533990145
Oblivion is the worst game ever made, genuinely anti-fun. At least Skyrim and Boomerwind succeeded at creating a fantastical world, even if the gameplay is mid.

>>533991007

>>533982513
Those animals used to be Dimalchio's friends

>>533991007
the only reason why people even like Skyrim is for the rape and sex mods, no one plays vanilla skyrim chuddy

Morrowind is the best rpg and has the best setting. The only one that actually feels like a crpg.
Oblivion has the most fun quests, best music and is funny because of the npcs. Worst gameplay mechanics though.
Skyrim is the only one with decent combat and makes for a fun braindead dungeon crawler. Also the most customizable with mods. Worst questlines in the series though.also the perk system was a good addition

All three games have their positives and negatives, I can enjoy all of them.

>>533992282
Why are you being an enlighten centrist for Toddslop on the Rogue Trader general?

>there will never be a morrowind tier game ever again
why live bros

the age of based nerd friends making a cool game they wanted is over

Is the guy who made skald working on anything else?

>>533994437
Morrowind is a shit game in and of itself. Only reason Morrowind is """good""" is because Tamriel Rebuilt exists and its contents utterly mog vanilla Morrowind content.

And there will NEVER EVER be a project even remotely comparable to Tamriel Rebuilt.

>>533993941
Because I don't like rogue trader that much and will jump at the chance to talk about literally anything else.

>>533992282
>Morrowind is the best rpg
It's not even an rpg

>solasta 2 and bloodlines 2 come out this year
Time for them to battle for crpg of the year.

Why didn’t you play tainted grail?

>the dark heresy trailer got less views than the expanse trailer
It's over 40k bros...

>>533996331
The DH trailer is pretty uninteresting
Just shit-tier 2D animation and a couple of shots of kroots goofing around

>>533996224
I might give it a shot next time it goes on sale though, reviews seem pretty positive.
I wasn't expecting much from it so I didn't pick it up on release.

Wizards could easily make a eberron crpg and pretty much make Arcanum 2.0

Did tyranny sell like shit? Where is the sequel

The emperor in 40k is lawful evil btw.

>>533996331
they need more dollies in their trailer

>>533997467
if he sent a psychic message to the Inquisition demanding they suck his nuts, would they do it?

>>533997310
yes

>>533996331
>It's over 40k bros...
I can only dream

>>533983846
>>533984182
Cheers. Is it just me or we should be more worried about genestealers than drukhari?

If you ordered Regill to suck your nuts would he do it?

>>533998837
Yeah
Drukhari are just pests (unless they steal your star so keep an eye out). They're like space raccoons
Genestealers are a serious subversive threat (they're a metaphor for bolsheviks)

I've been wandering arount this forest in RT for like a week now

>>533999238
I'm not sure the layout is even constituent. Like the connections between regions depend on which direction you choose.
Just look up map

weaponized breeding/militarized rape is a weirdly specific fetish i have and genestealers fortunately lay in

Dual-use rape
For civilian applications, but can be weaponized in a short timeframe

I feel like as the dragon age series progressed every character turned into alistair where they are compelled to make light jokes at every situation and never take anything seriously.

>>534000042
you mean regressed

>>534000681
regressed. definitely.

>>534000792
>>534000042
Not just dragon age, my biggest criticism against larian is their writers refuse to take things seriously for a second. BG3 and DnD setting forced them to reign it in a little bit at least. Many other series have this problem too, writers just want to be funny and don't care about the setting at all. Owlcat succeeds because their writers actually enjoy the game and even played rogue trader beforing making it

I don't begrudge Jae her little mining colony on a sand planet
She seems to be running it well

>>534001453
nani

>>534001453
the princess is good at governing obviously

>>534001930
>Get quest "A gift for Jae Heydari"
>Ask Janris what to get her
>He suggests a little outpost on a planet, which you just happen to have lying around
>tell him to give it to her

>>534001410
Thats why I haven't been able to get into the original sin game. They seem like something I'd enjoy but the writing really takes me out of of it.
I'm not asking for it to be edgy grimdark shit but don't treat your own setting like a joke.

>>533986591
>picrel
Why don't crpg's have stat pages that look like this anymore?

So much fucking sovl.

>>534005519
video games got too big and now cater to normies that can't into roleplay.

>>534005519
Competency crisis. Different generation is making games now, and they don't have the same background of reading actual rpg source books
>>534005810
Normies like things that look good. It's not that.

>>534005519
That’s just what a vtm character sheet looks like

>>534005519
That is way too much reading for the modern gamer
And it's also a beginner trap, there's a right way to set up your stats and everything else is a selfi-inflicted handicap
Plain and simple, it's not fun

>>534006094
>Competency crisis. Different generation is making games now, and they don't have the same background of reading actual rpg source books
This one hits hard and it's only going to keep getting worse as new generations are primarily influenced by other videogames, making everything incestuous. "Final Fantasy but its like Pokemon too" will be legitimate thoughts of our best and brightest, and even worse than that, it will be applauded by the future drooling retards who play games (or watch others play them)

Sometimes the JA3 music reminds me of Pillars music.

Crpg idea for owlcat that would do gangbusters numbers. Horus Heresy the game.

CRPG idea: Abelard: the game

>>534009748
this but its a roguelike where you play as a Terran citizen hiding from Emperor's Children so you don't get ground into boner pills

>>534009748
I don't believe anyone has actually read those

>>534010189
I did but only cause I listen to audio books at work to make the time go by quicker. I wouldn't recommend reading them unless you have nothing else to do.

>>534010189
I think they're a tax write-off

>>533968758 (OP)
>TQ
Only War and Black Crusade

CRPG idea for owlcat: dark heresy the game

>>534015245
I don't see OW being good for a crpg. BC on the other hand would be great.

Path To Glory and Mordheim would also be great.

Less so for the rulesets and more so for the vibes, setting and general campaign direction.

>>534015634
Just to clarify I mean the Path to Glory from 2008-ish. Just looked it up and found out their was an AoS reboot of it.

>>534002680
Motherfucker you gave your girlfriend a planet?

>>534017179
It's not a planet.
It's a small mining facility on one desert planet. The planet remains mine.

RT, anyone had issue with ladder on Leethus to Captain Walz (Lex Imperialis) not working?

>>534017179
It's just one planet

>>534017179
You own 100 planets by the endgame, you can spare one.

>>534017410
One of the soldiers is blocking it but he should move once combat starts. Otherwise you can always go round

There is barley any colony management in rogue trader, we run into like 20 primitive worlds ripe for colonization. We should be able to lose some of our people and weapons factor to colonize planets

>>534017680
I'm actually just retarded, you had to talk from below him not up ladder

Which companions have fun lines riding tank?

>>534017179
It's more like a house on a planet
Janris phrases it like
>Someone like her would appreciate somewhere to lie low from time to time
so you give her a little self-sufficient compound

Jimmy stole my halo device…

>>534019107
He wants to use it himself

>>534018558
I dont even remember lines about that

>>534019107
>didn't immediately tell him to go fuck himself

>>534018558
I want to make yrlikek drive it, I hope this is possible

>>534018558
Argenta was very enthusiastic about it. But my RT suddenly realized that she has probably never operated a tank before

>>534019813
>Argenta you are breaking the tank
>GUIDED BY FAITH

>>534019107
You know what to do. Pull up to the endless abyss and throw him in

>>534020076
Can’t. I built him too strong and now he carries even harder than both Cassia and Argenta combined

I should have been able to pretty much order an avatar to happen on any primitive world i came across. Those native bastards had it coming.

>>534020279
People larping as the bad guys from avatar is somehow even more embarrassing than the imperium larpers

>>534020506
Wrong because the bad guys from avatar are 20 times more fun and goofy.

>fighting a c'tan shard
>I've seen worse battles than this in my time
What could ablelard have seen that is worse than this?

>>534021050
Two C'tan shards

>>534021050
Theodora's bdsm chamber

>>534021050
when they were passing by the Menial Lives Matter protest on the lower decks and the RT ordered him to lynch every single one of them with his bare hands

>>534021050
Anvers fight was tougher. That's what he's always referring to

hope you enjoy your 40k RPG's because 50k and age of smegma 2.0 is just around the corner
Imagine how bad it's going to be

>>534021568
Meh, just like we got 2 pathfinder CRPGs before 2E and new setting focus, we get 2 40K ones. Appreciate them and move on

Age of Sigmar was deconfirmed by Owlchuds as well

>>534021568
You can’t make a Sigmar game because GW is constantly retconning it

Theodara died a childless cuck.

>>534021050
well they did fight for the ctan shard to begin with

>>534021050
Edge of Daybreak?

>>534021568
>50k
This isn't going to happen
Maybe 41k

this look good for a power armor heretic gunner?

>>534023261
What kind of gunner?

>>534023336
burst fire spammer.

>>534023261
Technically, strength does not have to be above 35 IIRC.
But sure.
Imperial guard origin ain't that strong, but tactics can be convenient once in a while

>>534019675
She flat out says "I do not want to learn how to drive monkey shit" and refuses. Cassia says she read a book about it lol

>>534023143
>>534021568
I think they might end up making the emperor split even more or something

>>534023471
I thought you needed 45 strength for the heavy armor perk

>>534019107
When does he do that? Its just sitting in my pack, I didn't think selling it was a good idea lol

>>534023708
Oh right, I was thinking of heavy guns.
I guess you can ignore medium armor and second skin and focus on heavy, never tried that myself. Power armors come a bit late and all.

Dark heresy idea, gun psyker build.

>>534023740
Certain companions slap the Halo device out of your hands .
Uralon included.
Some mod options that deal with companions and interjections may mess up the trigger

>>534023740
If you try to equip it when he’s present (either in the party or at the bridge/palace), he will say that his authority outweighs yours and confiscate it

I gave the lower class of Dargonus minimal rights

What was the last crpg you beat and what did you think of it?

>>534024048
Shadowrun Honk Konk
I liked it
Simple but effective arrangement of hub area and shadowrunning jobs

Genestealers are a metaphor for Indians, right?

wtf kind of last name is scipio-grimald?

>>534024412
More like the chinese

Moment of truth. Can a melee psyker solo aurora on unfair?

>>534024478
It's Lt Gen Scipio-Grimald's name

>>534025058
Huh, never read catch 22, I'll put it on my list.

>>534025191
The first chapter (like 10-12 pages) is a little weak but it finds its stride after that.

>>534025006
Assuming you don’t get knocked prone, yes

>>534025821
There's a place he can't kick you from. But it's annoying.

>>533997310
>Where is the sequel
Avowed was fucking garbage so I hope they never touch Tyranny again

>>534025006
>>534026026
Okay, lesson learned.
If you want to solo aurora get the knockdown immunity from forgeworld origin, otherwise you won't be able to melee him at all without retreating to a corner every turn to avoid knockdown.

Furthermore, the sniper is a FAR bigger threat than Aurora is due to his 30 damage snipes and armor shred.

>>534026782
>Achilles
Isn't that the guy colluding with the Deldar?

You ever think that Jimmy gets extra freaky with his biomancy? Like he gives himself 3 or 4 extra dicks then casts iron arms on them so he can smack them and then they clack around like they are newton balls.

>>534027442
Why are you thinking about cock?

Are heavy laser weapons a thing in rogue trader?

>>534026915
Yes, but it's also the name of a famous Greek hero who was said to be the perfect warrior.

>>534009972
That's just Rogue Trader but only the colony management.

>>534027548
Doesn't seem that way. It's all rifles, not tripod lasers

Who is the Abelard approved romance?

>>534027853
Jae

>>534027853
Anyone except Marzipan

>>534027853
Jimbo

>>534027853
Abelard would prefer a consort for you who is
>human
>not mutated
>can at least pass for noble stock
If you're female, Jimmy is the obvious and only choice
If you're a male trader, there's only one option

>>534018558
I don't know about fun lines, but I think Idira deserves it after she sobs all over you about wanting to make the last days of her life fun.

I'd sooner let the Von Valencius line FUCKING die with me than romance Jae

>>534027853
I don't know what the fuck the anons responding with Jae are smoking, Abelard fucking despises Jae from her introduction and thinks it's shameful you even keep her around and it undermines the whole Von Valancius dynasty. Him just chuckling at the sex broadcast that one time doesn't mean he suddenly changed opinion.

Anyway, he'd probably approve of Cassia first and foremost because it's high status x high status even if it's tricky to navigate. But the fact you'd pull it off would probably be even more reason for him to be awed.

>>534028558
>can't produce children
Cassia is out.

>>534028670
RTs don't need children to have heirs, Theodora herself just searched for whoever was most promising among other branches of the family.

Also who says Cassia can't produce children?

>>534027853
Yrliwhoresluttard

>>534028772
She can, they just won't be navigators.

>>534029050
Yeah, exactly.
Which also does mean the "not mutated" point is kinda moot, Cassia being a mutant won't affect the bloodline. Unless she does happen to pass the navigator mutation by a small chance, but then that one kid just gets put in charge of house Orsellio while their sibling/s get the Von Valancius inheritance.

>>534027853
>you can't help abelard get over his late wife and Theodora and make him feel like a boy again
weak and lame tbqhwy

>>534028497
Try it
It's surprisingly cute

went back and completed my grim darkness 40k roguetrader run after a couple months

skipped a couple companion quests because the game is shit
romance bugged out, probably for the best
nomos called me a nigger for not picking any conviction (he was the nigger)
ran into some more bugs
last fight lasted 3 rounds but took like 30 minutes
sided with fat bastard

wanted to let you guys know since you dick ride this game all day and night

>>534027853
Unironically Yrliet if she wears her hair down to cover her ears and acts like a lady
No conflict with house orsellio
White
Doesn't live in a rubbish bin
>genetically incompatible at the molecular level
>cannot give you heirs
We'll get around that somehow

>>534029749
>eldar
>white
yeah, right.

>>534029749
Finally a correct take.

>>534029542
>sided with fat bastard
This is the demonstrably correct choice
There's no reason to fight him
His plan is reasonable and he hasn't treated you badly

>>534029749
She's a fucking hobo

>>534029791
They are white the same way japanese are white
Yes, they have white skin, but it's due to a different gene than eurowhites
So it's close enough

>>534029856
Cuck.

>>534029542
>skipped a couple companion quests
you didn't beat the game

>>534029867
So is the RT
No fixed address

>>534030083
>No fixed address
Dragonus is right there

>>534030083
you literally have the von Valancius palace on Dargonus

>>534029867
She's a career girl who travels.

>>534029867
She's a digital nomad
She has a job writing for an eldar blog

>>534030434
>Travelling through the calixis sector and witnessing the damage colonialist monkeighs have inflicted

The yrliet romance should've had more stuff where you take her to social events and she's fucking miserable

>>534030825
Yeah it's missing interaction
She talks about your amazing conversations which made her fall in love with you, but you hardly really talk to her
The Kibellah party event was great, and the dinner date afterwards
Yrlikek deserved some of that too

>>533976415
Mass Effect is overrated as fuck and was at the time. The gameplay in all 3 is absolutely shite.

>>534030993
the story is stupid too, its just a generic fantasy game in space

>>533998168
The Emperors will is clear

>>534030993
People only like Mass Effect because of the sex, that's all, same with BG3, doll kissing games.

>>534030993
With Mass Effect, I was amazed at the first sidequest planet I landed on
Then I realized they are all like that

>>534030993
People wanted Mass Effect to be a new Kotor game so they were very forgiving of its many flaws
It's like star wars: bush era edition

>>534030993
better gameplay that rogueshitter
free of bugs
no essay dumps about imaginary places in conversation
finished game

>>534030825
Then one where she tries to act like a normal person and be charming to the guests
Then she runs off and has a meltdown and you can calm her down
It would fit with her autist-coded persona

>>534031845
Mass Effect is Waist High Walls: the game

>>534031891
roleplay getting a job sperg

>>533978025
2025 is one of those shitty years
Can you think of anything good that came out in 2015? 2005? 1995? 1985?
Something about that middle-of-the-decade year. It's a time of change, not fulfillment.

>>534030993
I liked shooting things, listening to cool music, and talking to cute space girls.
It was fucking fantastic.

I just wish we got 1/10th of that from modern games. Something that's just normal. That appeals to normal people.

>>534032005
not mass effect 1

also yes that is better gameplay than shit like gothic, witcher 1, roguetrader

>>534030993
I played it when I was 12 so you're wrong.

>>534032028
No need
I'm a Chainlink holder

>>534032005
It's really fucked up that everyone just stands there and takes turns getting hit 0/10 fucking garbage immersion ruined

>>534032005
let me guess you NEED more

>>534032118
>2015
Casuals did get Witcher 3 and Bloodborne (for me it was Shovel Knight)
>2005
Well, that's when Kotor 2 released here. And the beginning of the end with WoW
>1995
Pretty good for JRPGs

>>534032765
>2015
>Witcher 3
Has it really been TEN FuCkInG years

>>534032118
not crpgs but 2005 had re4, mgs 3 and shadow of the colossus.

>>534030993
It was an inferior Kotor with even worse gameplay and even less of an RPG overall. A dumb action moviegame, but since there is an absolute drought of Space Opera RPG related anything we can't be picky.

Thanks God for Rogue Trader, the first proper Space Opera since Mass Effect and all around superior game and an actual cRPG. It being 40k is just an icing on a cake. Can't wait for Dark Heresy

>>534032118
i was looking at rpg timeline and 2005 was the start of console focused rpgs and 95 was drought (allegedly because of doom). i think 2015 was still console focus until a year or so later real crpgs came out (not obsidian shit)

>can get power armor talent in the prologue
>can't get a suit of power armor until chapter 4
>both suits that exist in the game are complete trash
Why does Owlcat do this? There should be at least 10 more sets that scale up throughout the chapters and culminate in one final set that's competitive with the other endgame armors.

>>534033203
MGS3 was a 2004 release
2005 was however the release of Jade Empire. That got me started on the Wuxia path

>>534032836
Yes. 2005 was also 20 years ago

>>534033269
It's not even anything like kotor.

>>534033269
kotor was a piece of shit. you delude yourself otherwise because no one besides cultists bring this shit up. i think even a kotor fan would hate that shit if they had to play it as an adult

>>534033349
oh I was looking at the subsistence release date.

>>534033276
Power armor is super rare and powerful, Your supposed to be wearing heavy armor throughout most of the game.

>>534033414
I cannot replay Kotor 1, but I go through 2 every once in a while

>>534033507
im sure you loved reading useless chat gpt tier text in roguetrader and poe. discussing the deep philosophy of the not at all shitty new vegas dlc

>>534033469
I gave Abelard power armour talent because he deserves it, and he can use any he finds after the game

>>534033638
I have no idea what 'chatgpt tier' text means.
Can you be a bit more descriptive instead of using buzzwords?

>>534033638
Being a contrarian isn't a personality

>>534033414
KotOR is great , I replayed it the other month
KotOR 2 is also great, but unfinished. It's not all "philosophical conversations". Retards have taken the nar shaddaa beggar incident and made it into a whole mindset

>>534033638
Retard.

>>534033824
kotor is walking down an ugly looking hallway hoping theres some epic onions wars or avellone slop instead of gameplay insulting to every one above 85 IQ. you need multiple replays of a story based game because your simple mind cant hold the memories

>>534034291
>walking down an ugly looking hallway hoping theres some epic onions wars or avellone slop
Let me guess, you NEED more

KotoR should have been a book or a movie
This is true for many games

Mega retard takes today, nice.

>>534034548
wouldn't have made things better

>>534034726
Welcome to 4chan

>>534024048
Wasteland 3
its a very okay game not spectacular but enjoyable, the experience was very much improved by having a friend play it with me, but holy fuck the game loves annoying the shit out of you, i sided with The Patriarch not for any reason the game gave me (though he definitely seems to be more reasonable and was genuinely true to his word and was quite generous to you) but purely because fucking Angela Deth would not stop interrupting me with Yap i don't care about and the game doesn't allow me to tell her to fuck off early enough, my god it boils the blood to even remember

its a 6/10 that annoys you into being a 5/10, but the score improves by 1 if you play it with a friend

>me when i see kotor walking down the street

>>534033389
Kotor was already a proto moviegame, Mass Effect is a natural evolution of it, dumbing down even more rpg mechanics and focusing on action and cinematic values even more

>>534035049
anon, games need to be art!

passionate handholding with heinrix

>>534035143
Whore.

>>534033414
Kotor was banging in it's day

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic is often praised as a classic, but time hasn't been kind to many of its core elements. The combat system feels clunky and outdated, lacking the fluidity or impact needed to stay engaging across its long runtime. Dialogue, while ambitious, suffers from repetitive animations and awkward pacing. The morality system, though novel at the time, is cartoonish—offering choices that are either saintly or comically evil, with little room for nuance. The game's environments, particularly on planets like Manaan, drag with tedious backtracking and lifeless NPCs. Companion interactions lack depth beyond a few scripted moments, making them feel more like quest dispensers than real characters. While the overarching story has its moments, the twists are predictable to anyone remotely familiar with the genre. Ultimately, KOTOR shows its age, and despite its legacy, it no longer holds up as the RPG masterpiece many claim it to be.

some real rivetting discussion from you weg heads stamping your feet and saying 'nuh uh not true!' before returning to your pig troughs

>>534035348
AI tells you what you want to hear and apparently youre such a negative retard it thinks you hate everything

>>534035393
Says the pajeet shitflinging from his phone

>>534035447
What pissed me off the most was when I was having it translate a light novel and it started making up its own shit.

kotor was always shit lol, i wont even let you retards move the goal posts to 'okay its shit but it was good at the time,' i wont even let you have that much

>>534035049
How does one achieve this level of delusional grognard?

>>534035610
Bing bing wahoo

>>534035610
>I will keep shitposting as long as my phone has battery life
Okay

>>534035348
Knights of the Old Republic may look clunky next to today’s hyper-polished blockbusters, but it oozes more soul from a single dialogue tree than most modern games manage in an entire campaign. Where today's titles often feel like focus-tested amusement park rides with cinematic flair and shallow choices, KOTOR hands you the keys to a galaxy and says, "Go break it—or save it—your call." Its janky animations and turn-based combat are part of the charm, like flipping through a well-worn sci-fi paperback while AAA games try to sell you a Netflix pilot. It didn’t need 4K textures to deliver a gut-punch betrayal, or moral choices that actually mattered. In a world of algorithm-driven engagement, KOTOR reminds us what it’s like to care about the story, not just the spectacle.

>>534035709
>—
Thank you, ChatGPT

>>534035709
they cared so much about the story that they forgot to make a game around it

>>534030993
It had good waifus and that carried it

>>534035871
You're very welcome—and thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it. If you ever need more passionate rambling, lovingly biased hot takes, or just another paragraph full of righteous nostalgia, I'm here for it.

hehehe
titty skulls

dam the ai defended kotor better than its fans...

Imo Owlcat should reuse the assets from Rogue Trader and Dark Heresy to make a 40K turn based strategy game similar to battlesector.

>>534036241
I always say "thank you" to the AI, because I'm an Iconoclast irl

>>533968952
>fighter hits all the time
>rogue hits all the time
>shadow/illusion specced wizard instakills huge crowds
these are the only fun classes to use

The most fun I've ever had in a pathfinder game was when I didn't know shit about build autism and was playing on core.

I had to use consumables, clever tactics, kiting, summons, and cycle through front liners to just barely claim victory.

By contrast, an unfair run with optimal play is mind numbingly boring. 20 minutes of buffing followed by 10 seconds of auto attacking.

>>534021050
He was there when Horus slew the Emperor (and parried Horus's final blow, giving the Emperor and opening). It's why he's so old.

>>534030993
>Mass Effect is overrated as fuck
According to anons on 4chan, you've just described every game

>>534028670
Cassia can produce children and they wouldn't even be Navigators

>>534036709
Grey hair; sure hand

>Actually, (game) sucks

underrail was pretty good and it had one dude working on it, idk what bioware's excuse was

>>534037020
star war idolatry

>>534037020
Underrail was alright but kotor was better

>>534036627
I wish I could recapture that feeling of being a noob playing pathfinder. Pathfinder is one of those games thats more fun when you don't really know what you're doing. I wish I never looked up those build guides.

I had the opposite experience playing pillars, I thought the game was boring af on my first playthrough and then every run after that I enjoyed it more as I understood the systems better. My last playthrough on potd was awesome.

I really need to finish underrail at some point. I've been filtered by deep caverns twice now.
Also was the last dlc any good?

>>534037175
yeah it was better at having worse combat, story, and looking ugly as hell

Why is it always underrailfags

>>534035627
How is this delusional? I even attached interview with Bioware devs from back then. They intentionally dumbed down their games to not scare away casual consolefags. Their chief concern was to make Kotor as cinematic and as accessible as it is possible. It's why you can have only two (not even needed) companions with you, it's why they did away from tactical top down view in favor of third person camera, it's why RPG mechanics are even simpler, areas are just small, claustrophobic, linear corridors offering no tactical depth, it's why they put so much effort into full voice acting and elaborate animations etc

Mass Effect inherits everything from Kotor and then further dumbs it down, removes noncombat related skills, switches to full action combat instead of half-assed compromise from Kotor and restricts control over your companions even more. It's a straight and natural evolution of Kotor - the antichrist of cRPG genre.

>>534037392
Russians are angry fellers

Copetor

>>534037474

Cinematic movie gamers should fuck off to jap videogames

I love RT, but I've tried to play WotR twice and never got that far. Should I push through? I like fantasy and probably would like the setting, something puts me off but I don't know what. Furthest I got I remember being in a burning building and some baddie teleported away. I'm not keen on the oooh I'm the chosen one here's my sword stuff.

Well we will be getting less smaller CRPG/RPG/General game reviews & streams from a slavic guy with funny accent.
But hey maybe Werg's wife has a funny accent too

Kotor killed my dog

>>534038347
Wow, I don't fucking care

>>534038195
If you're not into the whole chosen one power fantasy aspect you could try kingmaker.
Its a lot smaller scale and more grounded than wotr.
I've never been able to get into wotr either, I always get bored by chapter 3.

>>534038347
I care

>>534038347
Good for him
Whoever that is

>>534038347
>But hey maybe Werg's wife has a funny accent too
She does, but it's not as sovlful as Werg's
She made some reviews and gameplay commentary on the channel.

>>534038347
I've never understood CRPG niggas watching shit on youtube. Builds spoil the fun, reviews don't really matter it's not like there are infinite #s of rpgs out there. You tend to know what you like. Stop watching jewtube NOW

>>534038195
A certain amount of oooooh I'm the chosen one is pretty unavoidable with wotr. I mean some of the paths focus more on fighting with your friends or being the most Normal Human Ever but it's pretty unavoidable.

If you're going to force a backstory on the player, you should do it at the beginning like Fallout, not in the middle of the story like Kotor and Wotr

Wait so the reason Argenta wanted to see the warrant of trade was because she wanted to pray before the emperor's autograph?
Is it really that big of a deal?

>>534036268
The space combat game has potential also

>>534038927
We're not going to pretend the kotor twist wasn't the the only actually enduring part of that game's story.

>>534039014
Yeah it is a big deal
Their whole way of thinking revolves around this one immortal man
>an ordinary signature
>unless you know whose blood is on the paper
>and whose hand wrote the name

How were all companions inventoried?

>Abelard - old and unfit for service Guardsman
>Yrliet - scrawny, malnourished mutant
>Heinrix - unremarkable "Put N/A and burn before reading"
>Cassia - albino mutant, gills suggest oceanic origin, put in fish tank

>>534038927
The kotor twist was kino
It also contains an irl metaphor
Who we are depends on the choices we are exposed to and given a chance to choose
Also Revan and Bastila want to make each other better people, another irl metaphor

If you strip for the clerk Cassia blushes and covers all her eyes (she peeks)

>>534039515

>>534039515
>>Abelard - old and unfit for service Guardsman
But he was in the navy, not in the guard...

>>534040369

>>534040369
He is annoyed by that saying he is a navy officer not a worthless guardsman

>Play something else
>Starting to miss the WOTR and RT dismembering of enemies

I consider the following mandatory knowledge for RT players.
>you can have the whole party occupy the same square in party formation, making navigation around traps 10x easier and ensuring the party is close together when combat starts
>you can enable quick combat in the options menu, saving hours upon hours of time watching running animations
>skill level doesn't matter when assigning ship posts; what actually matters is which ship ability you can upgrade
>you can clear all traumas after a fight by returning to the ship

This is the real Yrliet.

>>534041875
>*blinks in confusion*
>elantach i love you

>>534041875
The mon-keigh cries out as he strikes you

>>534041875
But weren't a good chunk of the craftworlders that were the odd ones out who were against all the shit being mentioned in the pic? They weren't the hedonists they were the religious monks isolated on craftworlds. And also a lot of craftworlds tried to be diplomatic with humans and even some allied with human worlds and protected them, you had humans and Eldar living as frens on some worlds before the Emperor had the genocided in the great crusade.

You can just kill Argenta here despite her being green if you want.

I dunno..

>>534042486
Odd ones out in regards to the Eldar Empire I mean.

>>534041875
Based Eldar
Higher races deserve privileged position. Humans are like niggers, so why would it matter if you kill a billion of them? Many times more will be born in this same moment. They breed like cockroaches, infesting and destroying everything, they have no value.

>>534042486
>But weren't a good chunk of the craftworlders that were the odd ones out who were against all the shit being mentioned in the pic?
Yeah
They were wandering traders, who only came back to the homeworlds once in a generation. They saw what was happening and tried to warn the homeworld eldar but they wouldn't listen
Separately, exodites left society to form their own little settlements on new planets
Craftworlders = Belters
Exodites = Space Amish
All other eldar = Earthers

>>534042643
>Humans are like niggers, so why would it matter if you kill a billion of them?
The teachings of Asuryan say different
All life is precious
When you get the urge to slaughter a mon-keigh, try meditating instead

>>534038195
>I'm not keen on the oooh I'm the chosen one here's my sword stuff
Play the game nigga, there's a revelation at the end of the game that explains why you can adapt to mythical paths.

Anybody here playing tactical D&D mods?

It's really the ultimate challenge in the D&D realm. There is nothing else out there. No other game, definitely not the newest release, and no other Baldurs Gate 2 mod either. SCS simply doesn't cut it if you are looking for a challenge.
I uploaded a few videos here if anybody wants to have a taste, the mod is called Improved Anvil:

https://odysee.com/@Githzerai:e/Kangaxx:a

https://odysee.com/@Githzerai:e/Ancient-Lich:d

https://odysee.com/@Githzerai:e/Troll-Mound:d

https://odysee.com/@Githzerai:e/Guarded-Compound:4

Call him an animal, and he laughs. Call him a beast, and it rolls off him like water off a space duck's back
But call him a mon-keigh, and he recoils - "I've been found out!"

>>534042669
Tbh, there is some incosistent lore about some craftworlds being built right before the Fall

>>534041875
>Made up meme making fun of fan portrayal
May the swarm consume you all

>>534039014
>why would a nun want to see the shroud of Turin?
are you retarded?

>>534041875
This is the real Yrliet

So is the Emperor canonically 20 feet tall like a primarch
Or is he normal height

>>534043287
I think Emps is taller than the primarchs.

>>534042669
>Exodites
Amish, saw writing on the wall long time ago
>Craftworlders
Purity spiral Chuds bailing out only now
>Deldar
Degenerate, hedonistic liberals
>Clowns
Unaligned shitposters

why it look like that

>>534043435
Peak performance
You may not like it

>>534043435
Just a variant of Inferno Pistol from tabletop. Should be bigger tho

>>534043287
Emperor is about 6ft 5
Primarchs 6 ft
Space marines 5ft 6, Cadians 5 ft, regular humans 4 ft 8
In ancient times, a subspecies of small human were created to colonise space, for efficiency - the Stone Men

>>534043706
>Emperor is about 6ft 5
>Primarchs 6 ft
Anon, eldar are canonically between 6'2 ft and 7 ft

>>534043706
>Cadians 5 ft
So Cadians are shortstacks? 5ft is 1.52 right?

>>534043937
>eldar are canonically between 6'2 ft and 7 ft
In Imperial units
In modern units, they're about 5'8" - 6'0"

>>534043706
The Imperium of Man(lets)

>>534043706

>>534043706
sounds like bullshit

>>534044096
>In Imperial units
>In modern units, they're about 5'8" - 6'0
Am I too european to understand this?

>>534044287
The Imperium have their own, manlet, units
In our modern Dark Age of Technology units, Space Marines are just regular guys
We are all Men of Gold

Inacribia was unironically right

>>534044653
This. Everything is small in the future. If you encountered a C'Tan shard, you could just stomp on it.

>>534041805
>>skill level doesn't matter when assigning ship posts; what actually matters is which ship ability you can upgrade

Explain, as you would a child.

>>534044986
For example
Jimmy can upgrade warp jump to do major damage to enemy ships if you jump through them
Idira can't do this

>>534045307
Do the upgrades stay if you change person?

>>534044986
If you focus on skill level then ultimate abilities will have slightly longer duration. This doesn't actually help in any significant way since you only need ultimate abilities to last 1-2 turns anyways.

If you focus on post upgrades then you gain an extraordinary amount of utility.
>Focused Efforts: reduced cooldown
>Torpedo Control: can use the ability the same turn the torpedo is fired
>Reinforce Shields: can use it on 2 different shield sectors at once
>New Heading: reduce cooldown
>Warp Wave: significantly increased damage
>Arc Augury: weapons gain +3 range instead of +2
Torpedo Control and Warp Wave in particular are extraordinarily useful. Being able to fly next to a ship and immediately torpedo it can often one shot them. Warp wave will easily execute ships that drop below 1/3 hp and can otherwise be used to continuously attack ships from any range/direction.

>>534045487
I think not
It's tied to the person

>>534042594
what

Which build do I play in RT if I played Lich Necromancer Wizard in PF?

>>534047449
None will compare, it's over.

I fucking hate alushinyrra

I like Alushinyrra. It's a nice break from the crusade management, the puzzles aren't annoying, and the teleports everywhere make backtracking not a problem.

>>534049323
I don't mind the puzzles, I just dislike the quests, especially on multiple playthroughs and how most Mythic paths just grind to a halt.

[Attack] I don't think I like you. I think I'll kill you.

Lich mythic is pretty cool but most of the shit you do has no reactivity. I would think more people would have something to say about me making the queen my personal bardslut

>>534051359
I mean, by that point you'd have to be retarded or suicidal to oppose the Commander.

>>534041875
Is this wrong or right, non-shitposter response?

>>534051649
Wrong, Yrliet has nothing to do with stuff that happened 10,000 before she was born. She's just trying to get by

I wanna smooch her.

>>533992282
What about daggerfall and arena?

>>534051649
It's a weird double standard where alien races are looked down upon for not giving a fuck about humans. All these arguments fall apart if you'd reverse the alien-human position. If a trillion dead Eldar would bring back the Emperor, everyone would be planing xenocide.

>>534047449
There is no equivalent. You could play a Psyker, but all your spells are either buffs or damage. You can't really summon a bunch of skellies or shit like that.

>>534052657
Yrliet loves humans by the end, for some reason

I'm getting fucking murdered by casters on my meleetard NWN build. Do i have to burn all my goldies on scrolls and potions of 'fuck your save vs die bullshit'? It's early on and i have very little gold, the final fight at the gnoll caves made my brain hurt because of that cunt's fire shield and her spamming lightning bolt.

Uh-huh.

>>534052657
It's part of the Deus Vult larp culture that is popular among older zoomers
Emperor = Jesus
Eldar = Pagans
other xenos don't come into it

Just pushed this goat dude into a locker and I can hear him sobbing while he mumbles about the locker not being real or some shit lmao

>>534051826
But the RT that was born after Cruderock getting 9/11'd is responsible for his predecessor having a piece of it in their room?

>Wanted to go Lich Cavalier
>Ciar is also a Cavalier
I hate sharing classes, but double mounted charges could be kino

>>534053297
I never seen this comparison regarding Eldar lol, some space marines such as BT and Grey Knights were crusader inserts and general religious fanaticism of imperium, but regarding xenos it was always humanity first and projecting racism in us vs them. Some seeing humanity vs xeno as whites vs non-whites

>>534053345
>his predecessor having a piece of it in their room?
Uh huh
Sure sure elantach
It was your grandma who put that there
Or was it your great-aunt? I forget
Keep in mind that I've never met any of these so-called "predecessors"

Eldar are so fucking stupid, holy shit
>You'd never comprehend the depths of our culture monkey
You murder fucked so much that you created the God of murder fucking and now we have to clean up your fucking mess. You're not wise, you're not enlightened, you're just a bunch of retards to high on your own fucking bullshit to realize what's going on around you. I fucking hate you so much

>>534053972
he said, proving them right

>>534053657
The screenshot summarizing this is too big to attach here, but broadly speaking their relations to their gods resembles pagan europeans in ancient times - transactional and based on ritual, whereas the Imperials resemble early Christianity - all about love and faith and confession
In other ways eldar units are physically directly modelled on greek hoplites or celtic warriors

>>534052657
I mean that's kind of the Emperor's philosophy. There is no universalism, just survival and the interests of humanity and humanity answers to no one. So genociding in humanity's interest is not wrong in that paradigm. Xenos are not viewed as beigns with moral agency they are viewed as the other that is fine to do vile acts against as they are not human.

>>534053972
>OOH OOOOOH OOH AAAAH *throws excrement*
by Isha, what awful creatures

>>534053297
>other xenos don't come into it
No other Xenos tries to be good besides the Tau, desu. The Tyranids and Orcs don't fall unter mortal morals.
It's very much a flaw for audiences where something too close to humans evokes more hatred than something abstract. Like uncanny valley but character wise.

>>534054147
Deus vult larpers really aren't thinking things through this deeply. It's just xenophobia.

>>534052990
I guess Officer Overseer is the closest thing.
Kibellah calls Big E - Undying so Dogmatic makes the most sense routewise.

>>534054147
The Eldar gods are just people, like the Olympians
Whereas the Emperor is the ultimate personification of right and good, like Christ
Additionally, the concept of
>looks like us, but is utterly unlike us
is the attitude that the Teutonic Knights had towards the very last European Pagans that they encountered in the Baltic regions
The common myth of "elves" probably derives from the few remaining pagans in Europe. Note how elves and trolls are much more prominent in Norse culture, where paganism survived much longer

>>534053972
>I hate the Eldar for making one Chaos God!!!
>I Love the Imperium, no the 3 other Chaos Gods aren't our fault
Remind me, who rang the dinner bell for the Tyranids? Not any Xenos...

>>534054147
I saw people explaining the comparisons regarding aesthetics and yeah eldar are polytheists, but I've said I've rarely seen anyone bring up christianity vs paganism in regards to Imperium and Eldar. Empirefags hate xenos and don't view exterminating them as immoral because "humanity first" like >>534054318 explained or some that inject politics see it asa whites vs non-whites thing.
Deus Vult posting was mostly regarding Space Marines vs Chaos.

>>534054318
The Emperor lived most of his live in the galactic republic from M10-M25, so he was used to dealing with aliens in a friendly way
It's only after everything went wrong that he turned against aliens

>>534054803
>It's only after everything went wrong

>>534054515
I don't think comparing Emps to a lich is gonna win you any dogma points tbqhwy

>>534053972
Good post. Factual and logical.

>>534054720
>I've rarely seen anyone bring up christianity vs paganism in regards to Imperium and Eldar
I feel that it's an important reference
Mankind strongly resembles Christianity expanding over a pagan Europe in the early middle ages
Eldar gods don't have the sense of "right or wrong" that goes with the Emperor, and that's strongly reminiscent of pagan region vs Christianity
In very old legends eg Arthur, the hero often has a pagan gf (eg Morgan le Fey) which is paralleled by the persistent theme of an Imperial hero having an eldar gf

>>534055207
>In very old legends eg Arthur, the hero often has a pagan gf (eg Morgan le Fey) which is paralleled by the persistent theme of an Imperial hero having an eldar gf
Holy fuck, I'm never gonna look at this the same way again

>>534055207
>which is paralleled by the persistent theme of an Imperial hero having an eldar gf
Now you're definitely overthinking it, this is just anonymous being horny for elves

>Finally give Camellia a try
>In her Act 4 quest there's a bunch of demons gangbanging a copycat of my character
What the fuck, Owlcat

>>534055426
KWAB

>>534055426
Are you really surprised

>>534055649
No. Would've been better if it was succubi or inccubi instead tho.

>>534055207
I get you can draw refrences, but that's not the point of discussion, the original post said
>It's part of the Deus Vult larp culture that is popular among older zoomers
>it's christianity vs paganism
Implying that's why imperiumfags hate xenos, but as I've said I've barely seen anyone ever mention that as a reason. It was always either Emps lore reasoning, inserting natsoc larp/racism etc. not paganism vs christianity as the reasoning of Imperiumfags having a double standard to xenos and seeing humanity glassing them as ok.
Where did you see people bringing this up as the reason, I only really saw christianity being brought up with space marines vs chaos/heretics

>>534055426
Demons are the peak of degeneracy what did you expect.

Xenos hate me, so I hate them back. The only okay-ish Xeno are the T'au and Orks, and Orks are only okay because at least they are honest and won't devise a 10000 step plan 600 years into the future that will annihilate my planet because an Eldar once stubbed his toe on it's surface.

>>534055383
Exactly
So eldar girls acting arrogant is mankind's way of looking at itself and being self-critical
There aren't any pagan girls anymore, no real outsiders, so we have to invent eldar girls instead to look at us

>>534024048
Arcanum. It was very engaging, and the world and how you interacted with it was the highlight. I have nothing but animosity toward steampunk so it was a nice surprise to enjoy it so much. Shame about the combat.

>>534056012
>There aren't any pagan girls anymore
if by pagan you mean polytheist..bro your hindus?
if by pagan you mean non-christian...bro your 70% of the planet's population?

>>534055787
The Deus Vult larping comes into it by way of thoughtless aggression
Rather than taking all the factions on their own terms, as intended, zoomers slavishly identify with space marines
>FUCK XENOS
this type of thing. It's amusing but pointless.

>>534056224
No true european pagans. Indians and asians don't count.
Even if there are european pagans, they lack a cultural connection to the old days

>>534055992
>Orks are only okay because at least they are honest and won't devise a 10000 step plan 600 years into the future
They knew we weren't ready for space goblins

>>534056240
Again, barely see that mentioned as a factor regarding the anti-xeno hate, just the other stuffI previously mentioned, I mean check out all the 40K threads on /tg/
Seems you just wanna seethe at zoomer tradcath larpers and insert them here lol

Oh my god are you still talking about your elf gf that you will never get

>>534055426
did you expect safe edgy?

He even looks like Marazhai lmao

>>534056648
Are you surprised at this point?

>>534053193
Are you that chaotic good orc guy?

>>534056791
does he drink?
face looks a bit bloated

>>534056878
I'm the Fighter/Rogue/WM guy and this is my first time playing NWN if it's not obvious (got extensive BG1 and 2 knowledge though)

>>534055420
the very first voiced line you hear in BG1
>my hotel's as clean as an elven arse

romance options for BG2 include
>a good sky elf
>a neutral forest elf
>and an evil dark elf

>>534057008
Looks like coke nose at the least

>>534057331
he'd have no septum if that were the case.

>>534057292
>a neutral forest elf
56% elf
la creatura de faerun, if you will

>>534057008
Thats just his Brit genes

>>534056791
>Will de Renzy-Martin
What a posh name

If your game doesn't let me romance a straight white human female, then I shan't be playan.

You desire Argenta because she's hot.
But she would be a terrible wife.
All she would ever do is pray, exercise, and clean her bolter. She has zero experience being a regular person. If you so much as ask how her day was she would probably get confused.

>>534058308
You can romance a straight white human female in real life, anon. Leave me to my elves.

>>534058339
True
She wouldn't be good at cleaning the house or looking after the kids
She'd be even worse at being a noble lady like a rogue trader's wife should be

[Kiss Heinrix]
[Embrace Heinrix]

>>534058339
Anon, I'm a fucking Rogue Trader, I don't expect my wife to cook or clean. And saying she'd get confused at asking how her day went is ridiculous, they're nuns, not retards.

>>534058339
IRL space gfs will be more like Kroot
Approximately humanoid, but with major differences that you can choose to ignore at your own risk

>>534058645
Argenta would get bored. You know how she sometimes says
>I'm restless!

>>534058339
>Doesn't demand money
>Doesn't complain about her day
>Doesn't demand more time to be spend on her nor questions who you're friends with
>Will not cheat if you have 12h work and she's Le_lonely
Holy Emperor...

>>534058339
She does love another man more than you. Nothing triggers anons more than that.

>>534058870
I literally explore the whole universe finding groups of humans who haven't yet felt the light of the Emperor or finding new and exciting xenos and heretics to purge. It's a pretty fucking ideal life for a Sister.

>>534058967
The Emperor is not a man
Never mind what Ulfar says

>>534059169
>the Emperor is a woman
no...

>>534059169
Is he trans now?

>>534038347
I'm happy for him, irl>vidya autism
Liked Werg's reviews and streams, glad to see he's doing well

>>534058905
>Doesn't demand money
>Doesn't complain about her day
>Doesn't demand more time to be spend on her nor questions who you're friends with
>Will not cheat if you have 12h work and she's Le_lonely
Shereen

>>534059169
Trinity
>Omnissiah
>Emperor
>Golden Throne

>>534059367
lol
lmao

>>534059367
Can she bleach her hair?

>>534059545
She'll do anything to satisfy her Shereen

Abelard, find me a proper wife. MAKE one if you have to.

>>534059818
*looks significantly at Abelard's great-granddaughter*

>>534059367
>Doesn't demand money
Come on now.

>>534060040
When?
She gives you 2 PF on joining, and never wants money from you
You only profit by having her around

>>534059818
I will have the Medicae sew Ms. Yrliet's mouth shut at once, Lord Captain.

>>534059367
Would Jae bear my child, a future heir, while I soulbond with Yrliet? I wouldn't let her raise the child, of course

Abelard, I need you to be my wife.

Homosexuality is not really something you would call "Tried and Tested"

>>534052605
nta but arena from what I've seen is not worth playing really, but I could be wrong about that. It just seems like a worse-daggerfall.
Daggerfall I have good memories of but it's pure nostalgia and atmosphere. I think it is worth playing actually, but only with a certain mindset and understanding that a lot of it is completely un-fun, even anti-fun. Think massive sprawling nonsensical 3D dungeon maps and there's a bit of seaweed hanging from the ceiling somewhere that you have to hit spacebar on to open a door somewhere far away. (Not even joking, this happens once, and other times in slightly lesser forms)
It can be extremely bad and shitty. But it has an undeniable charm. The sound effects are great, the music is soulful as hell, the world is absolutely massive (but quickly begins to feel samey and empty.)
I believe it's completely free now, and there's also DFUnity which people have done some pretty impressive stuff with, so I would recommend Daggerfall to try.
There's also Battlespire. My only experience with it is being very sick for a few days and for some reason leaving on Let's Plays of it, so it feels like an incredibly strange fever dream.
The Elder Scrolls Adventures: Redguard is kind of a point-and-click adventure, I have never played it but it also looks like it might be good for a quiet afternoon or weekend.

>>534060426
This

Everyone says
>Don't open it
But now one asks
>How do you feel about not opening it?
It's fucking bullshit man

>>534060869
I'm not your shrink, piss off.

Recruiting Marazhai was a mistake

>>534060869
it doesn't matter how you feel about not opening it, only that you paid to not open it

>>534060425
Yeah I think they'd both be ok with it
Jealously scene notwithstanding
They'd come to an understanding
Yrliet would insist on watching you impregnate Jae to make sure you don't enjoy it too much

>>534060869

>>534060869
Just do as you're told cammy

>>534060425
Yrliet would complain, then cautiously start trying to get pregnant

is tiefling bard warlock justifiable as devil role play?

>>534061821
As long as it gets souls.

>>534060869
PANDORA NOOO!!!

>>534061821
Everything can be justified

>Friend keeps annoying me and hyping up BG3 Durge Evil path
>It's just like WOTR Evil Anon trust me
>Fuck it, try it
>It's just 'I like killing people, isn't that just so quirky?'
I hate Bhaal and his stupid cuckspawn

>>534062959
where did he lie? wotr evil is just "I don't like you, die"

>>534062959
Why is this general so obsessed with hating BG3? The narrator sounds like she's getting off to the Dark Urge's actions

>>534063079
how is that any different from good?

>>534063079
That's only true if you're retarded and pick the option that says [Evil] just because it says [Evil] without further thought put into it.

>>534063116
Owlcat employees.

>>534062959
>The evil option is just killing everyone you run upon
That's evil in every game

>>534043287
Emp is a normal sized human, but psyker fuckery makes him as big as He want's to be

>>534063116
>Why is this general so obsessed with hating BG3?
Froggy's undying legacy still lingers.

>>534063136
>Can't differentiate good from evil
Seek help

>>534063116
I don't hate BG3, it's average, the visuals are pretty and the combat is good, but the story just doesn't interest me at all and I don't really like any of the companions

>>534063116
It's more popular than my favourite game

>>534063116
Because its mainstream popular

>>534063684
[Chaotic Evil] no

>>534063141
you can larp any option as evil because game systems don't take the intent into account
helping poor orphans because I want to gain trust and manipulate someone is inherently evil but every game will treat it as a good action

>>534063116
Popular game bad

>>534063116
I don't hate it, but I will talk about how and why I think it's a very average game that isn't even worth a single replay, let alone do I think it'll be played 25 years from now. To certain kinds of people, this "going against the popular narrative" is seen as hate, but it isn't, it's just exactly how I see things.

>>534064516
>isn't even worth a single replay, let alone do I think it'll be played 25 years from now
but enough about wotr

>>534064516
>Somehow still being played by 5 digit numbers daily
>Yeah, it'll fall off after a quarter of a century
This is some weird cope. It's like saying some game is bad because it won't be relevant in a decade but worse.

>>534030825
> romance
I firmly believe that BG3 has caused irreparable damage to the entire CRPG genre, and now we face decades of games that will be worse than they could have been. All because of romances. Because the game made good money by attracting coomers, we now have a whole segment of players who think romances are a must in CRPGs.
In reality, most old-school gamers demand the opposite—that games should NOT have romances, as they distract from the core gameplay and consume an excessive amount of resources.
The point is that game development is about resource allocation, and resources are finite. The resources spent on all these romances, their reactivity, and countless variations here and there were NOT spent on other things like side quests, improving the story, or enhancing the quality of existing content.
In other words, for those uninterested in romances, they always detract from the quality and quantity of content because a ton of money and time was spent on them.
Simply put, with limited resources, there’s such a thing as PRIORITIES, and resealable developers ALWAYS prioritize overall content and story quality. Those who make coomerbait spread their resources thin on romances, resulting in both poor romances and subpar non-romance content due to lack of budget and time.

Both RT and WOTR would be better without romances

>"abloo-bloo-bloo someone doesn't like my favowite bideogame"

>>534065409
You make a game without romance like Avowed and people will throw a fit

>>534065640
That's not why Avowed was trash though.

>>534065409
romance was in rpgs long before bg3 what are you even schizoing about

>>534065409
Why did you pick the post about the character who actively will never ever put out to reply to with this autistic screed?

>>534065720
It was a good game tho. 90% of the complaints I saw were that it wasn't Obsidian Presents: Skyrim

>>534065913
It was a good game the same way Veilguard is a good game.

>>534064719
I just don't think it will be a timeless classic. For me it's on the level of Call of Duty or some capeslop game or something.
It doesn't matter at all how many people are currently playing it, the audience will abandon it whenever something similar releases because there's nothing actually there to last.
Yet young people with no nostalgia factor are picking up and enjoying IE games 25 years later. Because in some ways even while they've aged, they're timeless classics. >>>MUH REFRACTIVE SWEAT BEADS isn't timeless. Mocap animation isn't timeless.

Hell already the graphics look pretty fucking mid, and that whole "thick chunk of teeth in the mouth thing?" Ugly as hell. And, as the graphics 'wow' fades, there is only Act 1 (which is very solid), but this isn't enough to really exceed flavor of the year.
Good modding tools and support would have elevated it to timeless, I think, becoming a kind of "new NWN" in that regard.

>>534065409
Pretty bad take, desu. Romances have always been present, in one instance or another, throughout crpgs.
>most old-school gamers demand the opposite—that games should NOT have romances
I'd love a source for that.
>Limited resources
Plenty of games add half assed romances just because it appeals to the human brain

Overall this is one hell of an autistic fit, like a child complaining others aren't playing with it's toys right. I feel like you blame romance for what sucks in your games, when it's obviously a symptom, not a cause.

>>534066047
Not at all. Veilguard was got garbage all around. Awoved's problem is that it's a $40-$50 game being sold at $70 but I guess thats what game pass is for

every class in every rpg should get mmo style action bars with shitload of spells and abilities on to use on cooldown without any rests
prove me wrong

>>534066047
In that you didn't play either of them so you'll never really know how good or bad they are beyond parroting other people's opinions?

>>534066360
A fellow ToME connoisseur, I see.

>>534066360
Xenoblade is a fun RPG series but I don't need every game to be like that

>>534066395
Do you not have any other replies? You did this yesterday as well.

>>534066213

>>534066515
Maybe if multiple people are accusing you of being full of shit you just sound like you're full of shit dude

>>534065640
You have a strange understanding of what I wrote.
The absence of romances doesn’t guarantee a game will be good, and the presence of romances doesn’t automatically make a game bad.
It only makes it worse THAN IT COULD HAVE BEEN.
If the developers of WOTR and RT hadn’t spent time on romances and instead focused on the weak acts of the main storyline and added more side quests, those games WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER. This doesn’t make RT and WOTR bad games; they’re just not as good as they could have been.

AБOБA is a bad game not because of the presence or absence of romances, but because it was made by incompetent idiots.
>>534065743
Yes. And every time, they made both the game and the genre worse.
We’ve already been through this with Mass Effect and the harm it caused to the entire gaming industry. It took decades for the genre to start recovering, and then BG3 dealt a new, even stronger blow.

>>534066616
Maybe you don't have to actually play a game to be able to tell it's garbage. This is the same retarded shit as "It gets better after 200 hours"

>tell some random shitter to fuck off or I'll kick his teeth down his throat and then he'll fuck off
>shadowheart disapproves
not so edgy now are you, you dumb attention whore

>>534066213
I feel like you're desperately grasping for straws to actually hate on it but will refuse to admit it because you dislike being considered as such. Shit, even in your attempt at trying to punch up older games
>because in some ways even while they've aged, they're timeless classics
makes you describe them with an oxymoron.
>the audience will abandon it whenever something similar releases because there's nothing actually there to last.
This is true for everything and I'm not sure why you think it's a problem for BG3. People will seek out something new and then come back if they find nothing.

gothic had no romances and it's the goat of all time

I am going to interrupt this autistic spat with my own autistic rant, fuck the Art of Making Friends in WOTR, piece of shit quest that has you backtrack 3000 times.

>>534066748
You can make observations about things without playing them but when you're vacuously LE TORTANIC bandwagoning about every game that's unpopular on /v/ you just sound like an annoying retard

>>534066953
Lol it's not even better than Morrowind.

Romances aren't the problem.
Lack of any other kind of bonding is. It reeks of desperate lonely incel fandom, and it's gross and brings down the game.
>you can be friends with companions though
Yeah but in every CRPG with romance I can think of, the romance is by FAR more detailed, rich, and full of deeper reactivity.

>Those who cannot conceive Friendship as a substantive love but only as a disguise or elaboration of Eros betray the fact that they have never had a Friend.

>>534066953
But you get to fuck women there so that means sex is actually necessary.

>>534066953
But I love my boys tho?

Dark Heresy companion leak
Same guy made Cassia

>>534067274
>That detailed model
>Owlcat
Lol, what porn game did you nick this from?

>>534067274
I do not trust you.

>>534067429
>>534067403
https://slipgatecentral.artstation.com/projects/kQry2x
same guy

>MUH DOLLIES
>MUH SMOOCHIN DOLLIES

>>534067274
>>534067489
>Character is Lelith Hesperax from W40K based on fanart

>>534067489
I 100% expect to be mulched up in the game itself and really makes me wonder why these good looking models weren't done for RT when they seem to be capable of it.

>>534067274
You are so desperate

>>534067274
I can fix her.

They should add a female deldar but you don't fix her, she drags you down to her level like how Marazhai does and she cuts your balls off in the final romance scene.

>>534067804
those are lies
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/0XXLnK I remember this pic showing up before Vampire Coast was announced and author claimed it's just a fanart haha too

>>534067274
MARAZHAI SISTERS I'M SO FUCKING SORRY

>>534066395
Not the anon, but I've seen Veilguard's intro. The whole thing didn't really grab me and just didn't look like Dragon Age, you know? Like I don't remember DA mages ever doing that flashy shit. Mind, I also didn't like how the first screenshots of DA2 proudly showed off the Darkspawn whose models were clearly lacking in textures compared to the ones from DA1, since then I've learned that it might have been done so to represent ramblings of a degenerate beardless dwarf but before that I've seen one of my siblings fight in encounters where the enemies were blatantly spawning in from thin air and cartoonishly jumping off the buildings. I think the retarded design peaked in a dragon boss fight where a female would fight the player for a bit than fly to sit on a waist-high rock (where she was obviously untouchable) and send continuous sacrficial waves of her family. First it was her children then it was her male harem. She would fight a player for a bit and then just watch from an arm's reach distance how he kills her family as if they were her summons. I've tried to play it once for a bit but I couldn't power through the intro.
The three probably looks the best of the sequels imho (discounting the high nigga archmage and that goblin elf) but past the intro I've seen the MC do some NuCry or MMO style side questing which was a turn off. What I've seen of the plot didn't grab me either. But wasn't the MC of it more of a Veilguard since he went around closing rifts?
The only kinda cool thing from Veilguard I've seen is the tentacle monster who's apparently even plays a big role and it's kinda funny how the main elf villain has a huge gigachad jaw but aside from those designs the game just didn't get my interest and the qunari sir or maam was repulsive yeah.

What is so good about it in your opinion?

all knife-ear lovers are just self-hating masochists

heh, good thing I'm knife-ear rapist then

>>534069312
>self-hating
Nah
>masochists
MMmmmmayhapse

>200-300 million
>over 10 years
L M A O
M
A
O

>>534069882
Daily reminder that you don't even control your what is it, 2? companions

>>534024048
Colony Ship.
I had a lot of fun running through it as a stealth cowboy, but the final act just being a bunch of conversations you fast travel between killed it a bit for me.
Granted, I cucked out and gave the machine to the monks, but they went through all the trouble of giving me access to the endgame guns only for me to not even get to use them. It was very disappointing. I'll have to go back through and it again without siding with the monks to see if the final act in the other endings feel any better.

I've recently tried Din's Legacy and holy shit. I thought Soldak had interesting concepts for an evolution of a Diablo-clone RPG but I had no idea until right now that the dev(s) actually finally made a good and addictive game with them.

Also interesting how instead of humans, barbarians (which are more barbariani evolutionary strain of humanity) or lumen (lol) the only race you can play as in it is Mutated who are Elves. The game's and Zombasite's lore says the Mutated are a result of the giga nigga magic zombie virus hitting the orcs but if you pull up an older game and read orcs' description in it you would learn that Soldak orcs are a result of a no-name Necromancer using his magic on almost-dead Elves so from that point of view Mutated ARE just Elves, just more purified and suffering from wild mutations compared to their orc ancestors.

Knife Ears RULE!

>>534069182
It’s not. The game is a huge fucking mess. It’s just a completely irrelevant comparison.

>>534070184
Despite Din's Curse being an extremely low-rent diablo clone, it had a very engaging premise and the gameplay felt solid. Knowing that they've improved on it with Legacy makes me very curious to try it out.

This Skeletal Vanguard twat is kind of useless bros

>>534070593
he's a qt

>the corpse seems willing to speak but not to it's killer
fucking excuse me? since when does the fucking corpse brought back to life through unholy magic get to choose whether it will speak or not
I'm going to keep you in a fucking limbo and not let you rest until you fucking talk you rotting piece of fucking flesh

>>534069882
what the fuck were they thinking

>>534069882
Why do they feel the need to add big flashing numbers to damage.

>>534070593
I had him go crossbow and fighter and later on found this cool crossbow that does sonic area damage only to enemies, he was pretty helpful. I liked having him around, I also gave him the summon items.

>>534071427
because arpgs do that because diablo did that

>>534071427
It was originally going to be an online game

>>534070490
Oh yeah. I've also recently tried Din's Curse too and can say my view on Soldak's games was slightly marred by Zombasite (I've played) and Tehsnakerer's review of Depths of Peril. I've played only a little of it but Din's Curse was fun too if even for its simpler set up compared to those light strategy sims.

Din's Legacy borrows some ideas from the other two but it's mainly a sequel to DC. One just small thing that massively improves my disposition towards it is that the dev learned how to simulate an uneven ground, it seems to be just a visual thing (you can see bolts just traveling along the ground as if they have invisible legs running on it) but still is a massive improvement compared to flatness of the others. But that's not all, of course.

>>534071901
You now remember Inquisition had a multiplayer mode, for some reason.

desu I wouldn't mind a game with diablo hack and slash combat and crpg dialogues and choices

>>534071979
I mean obviously because ME3 had one and it was good

>>534071928
That's a minor element, but it does help a lot. Their games are hilariously flat, which is concerning because it looks like their latest Din's project just looks like a Terraria ripoff. Seems like they veered in a totally different direction after Legacy.
I enjoyed going lich in DC, even though it was just a passive buff to necromancy spells and didn't really change how you played.

>>534071979
>>534072627
Inquisition also started as an mmo, I remember

>>534072508
Requires two different flavours of autism that's too much to handle. Also we call those "Exile-likes" now because someone didn't kill Jonathan Rogers.

>>534071427
Numbers = RPG

>>534053297
>Emperor = Jesus
Actual he is God and horus is lucifer.

>>534072743
Inquisition was supposed to be an expansion for DA2 originally but then got made into its own thing. The problem was that they saddled them with having to figure out how to use frostbite from scratch.

>>534069882

>>534073374
>DA2 was also an expansion originally
>Everything after origins in the DA world is an expansion, MMO or live service being retooled into a single player standalone messy release
Grim

>>534069882
>>534073475
>>534073118
If I install "Floating damage numbers" mod and "Almost like in Fallout4 dialogue ui" mod. Will I be allowed to blogpost Elden Ring itt?

>>534069882
This shit is unironically better than balls hurt gay 3, LMAO.

>>534073680
>Will I be allowed to blogpost Elden Ring itt?
I'll allow it.

>>534073517
DAO was also apparently cobbled together last minute

>>534073981
wow, I could spend 5 minutes prebooofing in wotr instead

>>534041875
>we started hostilities with humanity back in the age of strife
Not a single piece of evidence exists for this btw, Imperiumfags always just make shit up.

>>534073981
Genuinely, what the fuck are you trying to say with this webm.

>>534073981
>Shows all the options you can do during combat
>This is bad
I wonder if anyone would be schizophrenic enough to show what TB combat looks like in WOTR or even the RTWP one.

Pillars combat>owlcrap and bg3 btw

>>534074867
The only thing I like more about Pillars is that it remember which abilities you use the most.

>>534073517
>Grim...
...dark even

>>534074867
It's better by virtue of abandoning the Vancian system. It's still not that good.
>Balanceman thought that having a refreshable +10 caster level modifier was a good idea
It was very rough at the start.

>>534073981
No, no it is not. I say this as someone who thinks BG3 is not that great of a game past Act1.

>>534073981
How did they go down to this after how sick the DoS2 was?
DoS2 solo runs with all the minmax action economy Buffs + Timelapse(Fane) -> Kill 1 guy + Teleport his corpse into a group + explode corpse -> Bloodpact(Elf race) + Adrenalin + Skin change +Bloodpact again + Adrenalin again -> mass corpse explode -> Finish every fight in 1 turn
Partyslop could never. This is also why BG3 is only a good game if you attempt Solo Honor mode.

>>534075328
On that note, which games have the best solo experience? Parties are fun and all, but being able to pull off playing solo is satisfying.

>>534074867
Im still waiting for the turn based mode

>Just discovered force recruit feature
Oh no
I'm going to spend even more time on making characters now
Too bad I'm past cumrag now and my next playthrough will be Arbites dogmatard. I would recruit my Shriekers there, including edge eldar. I will still make them now that Clown brought them to me so I have justification for this. But would be cool to walk around with them back in Cumrag already

>>534075328
>Unironically using Fane
>Using the mask to elf morph
Kill Frierenposter

>>533981215
When you have 6 vs 16 or so, and Heavy Wounds (so lose full HP and AP the more you accumulate wounds), and just a few stupid mistakes can down a merc (permanently if you can't get to them in time), you really have to use stealth to some degree.

>>534074434
It's definitely more fun than waiting 5 minutes for the ghost to decide to make a move.
>>534074569
That the combat in BG3 is one of the worst in the genre, and even the worst representatives of the genre, like Failguard, have better combat.
>>534074725
This is BAD friend, you know it
>>534075228
The combat in Failguard is at least colorful and action-packed, even if dull. In BG3, it's JUST DULL.
>>534075328
DoS2 is pretty bad too though

Asking again
CRPGs where you can play evil races (orcs, goblins,...)

I see, this is true Lichdom.

>>534075786
A crpg where you play as warhammer fantasy chaos warriors would be neat

>>534075786
Alot of crpgs let you play a tiefling

>>534075786
> evil races
> orcs, goblins
They are not evil, though. That's fucking elvish propaganda. They are just based and woke elves hate them for that

>>534075786
Actually I think humans are evil

>>534075328
I am going to blame 5e being a piece of fucking shit.

>>534051957

>>534076087
Nah its a larian homebrewed rules problem solasta was way more fluid.

>>534076034
this unironically. knife ears are scum

>>534075786
Most let you play as a orc (half orc)

>>534075929
>chaos warriors
>Human(dark)

Would a futa companion in a crpg be popular or cause massive seething from waifufags?

>>534072659
I do want the dev to succeed and there are 2D games I fucking love but yeah, it does feel like a downgrade in the visual department. Especially since the devs still use their 3D models in it. I am interested in how it will turn out. Maybe it will be similar to Noita too?

Adding some about Legacy: now as regions are randomly generated random victory conditions also set in, you might be dropped into a region with or without clans, you might be given a town to solve its problems or you might be dropped in the middle of a dungeon and told to GIT OUT. You might pick exact scenario you want to play later if you win it after it was randomly generated.
There are scenarios that feature rival clans like in Zomba and DoP BUT (unless there's a scenario I haven't found that plays exactly like Zombasite) now dealing with them is either a side content OR you are given one definite goal of achieving victory in the scenario instead of being able to do it how you personally like it. Also, unless I misunderstand something now it's only a player's NPC follower he picks who counts as his "clan". And if you tell him to unfollow you I think you'd better also tell him to get back into the fucking town if you want to find him in the next scenario you travel to. Could you take followers in Curse (aside from making summons)?

One thing from Zombasite that you might dislike is the infection system. If the NPC fights a zombie he might catch its virus and then you'd better have HP potions (some chance to cure it with each bottle) to give if you don't want to lose the fuck. Thankfully it mainly affects your follower only, since he fights zombies far more than anyone else in the town. CONT.

>>534076758
waifufags seethe at anything and everything by default
popularity depends on how normies would see her, either it could be brave and honest intersex representation or heinous incel sexualization

>>534076758
I think you should stay away from porn for a couple of days.

>>534076758
>Futa
No such thing, she'd be considered trans instead and frankly I'm very interested in someone daring to pull a Crying Game just to see the reaction to it.

>>534076758
A female character that can shapeshift a dick - popular
An alien or fantasy race that is female with dick - popular
A lesbian/tranny/masculine character with a dick - seething

>>534076952
>Crying Game
?

>>534076980
>solomons a manlet

>>534076758
I think seethe, unless it's stated beforehand. Imagine you get to sex scene and she pulls out cock and starts fucking your character.

>>534075464
>On that note, which games have the best solo experience?
Uh the games where you only control one character?
Neverwinter Nights, the Fallouts, Underrail etc

>>534077126
>anon pretends he is over 170

>>534076758
I think seethe, unless it's stated beforehand. Imagine you get to sex scene thinking she is a normal dommy girl and she pulls out cock out of nowhere and starts fucking your character.

Oooh I just got it, idira likes to gamble and bet on games because the voices tell her the future.

>>534075464
>S tier(either balanced around solo runs or it's more optimal than party runs):
NWN1, DoS2, Fallout 4,3,NW, Necromancer's Tale, Age of Decadence, Colony Ship, BG3, Anything Phyrahna Bites, Arcanum, Tyranny, PoE 2
>A(Solo is alright but game fucks you up slightly with skillchecks/peacful skills that you can only level with a party or some similar minor filter)
BG1 and 2(If you play Mage or Assassin - move it into S tier), NWN2, Dragon Age Origins, PoE 1
>B(It's passible but requires extreme comprehension of what game will throw at you at any given point)
Kotor 1 and 2, Shadowruns
>C(Developer actively nerfs anything that allows such approach or it's straight away impossible without modding)
Icewindales, Wotr(lt's possible without mods but you'll be pressing F9 alot), Kingmaker, Rogue Trader(Only one build can do this, which will probably be nerfed next major patch), Wasteland 2 and 3, DoS1

>>534077282
Karlach does this
>normal dommy girl
Serves masochists right, you can't see one picture of an attractive female character without some nigger commenting about wanting to be stepped on

using city environment for your final act and not letting you complete side quests after finishing the main game and only then move on to epilogue should be textbook retarded game design
it kills any sense of urgency
yeah, I know there's imminent doom coming and we're all going to die but let me first solve a few murder mysteries and family dramas
let me finish that shit after I deal with the main threat and if I'm going for the evil ending then I'm most likely not doing those anyway

>>534077501
She doesn't. She is not a futa, it looks like she fingers your character, which is not the same as fucking it

>>534077282
This is pretty much what happened with karlach when her "surprise" turned out to be her fingering your asshole with her tiefling claws and she is the second most popular romance in bg3.

I want mizora pact and romance so I can just sell wyll out and have her call me a good puppy and pat my head

>>534077501
>>534077612
It looked like she was doing a weird amazon position to me, idk.

>>534077794
>when your coping about getting raped.

>>534077794
i'm worried for your sexual life anon, remember to call for help if a "woman" touches your no-no places inappropriately

If Karlach did finger your asshole, they would've told you about it by now.

>>534076980
I want one for every character

>>534077490
Move IWD to B at the very least, i can't even think why you'd put it there

>>534076806
Then there's Mutation system, I personally like it but your opinion might differ, you now have two exp bars, one for normal levels and one for Mutations, each time you level up in them you gain a new skill, which might be a skill from another class, a modifier to one of your skills (imagine an Assassin doing a Deadly Strike but he also causes an icy explosion, it might get that ridiculous) or some buff or a sidegrade bordering on a downgrade (example: your character's hands are now frosty so he does bonus ice damage but bye-bye ability to wear gloves). You can remove unwanted mutations by using free skill points if you have them and then get them back but it all might sound too convoluted coming from me so I won't describe the process. You mutate. I will only add that if you want, nothing stops you from mutating from Ranger into Ranger (same class).

>>534067274
Owlcat doesn't have the balls to do that tho

>>534078401
good kill elf waifutards

>>534077973
>>534078000
The fuck is wrong with you people, no one got raped or is coping, I just said it looked like she was posing in a dominant position like amazon and pushing my char's cock in and thrusting.
Maybe I'm wrong, just saying what it looked like

>>534078075
Skip to 12:10
https://youtu.be/ltND_b3wXOA?si=qbIJ2SIdu0uo1u0R

>>534078804
>when you double down on your coping about getting your anus plundered

bg3 romances are all barebones to be honest, all characters get just a few dialogue choices before looping back to their regular options and their quests are all connected to the main story and not their specific romance route
fucking arueshalae gets entire questlines if her own with multiple dialogue options to explore, complete with begging the KC not to go the evil path when he strays too far
in bg3 you'll get "X disapproves" when you start going lunatic but no comment at all until they decide to just fucking leave like they never cared at all

>>534078401
Unrelated but if the titular character from Path of the Outcast had a lawyer he could probably say
>Your honor, the noble jury, this lad can't be held accountable for all the heinous and retarded deeds he performed, the DEldar pussy got him acting unwise

Honestly it's crazy larian got away with that if the roles were reversed they definitely would have gotten in trouble, imagine if they made some golden retriever himbo but in his final scene he gave the girl he was fucking surprise buttsex.

>>534077973
>anons want rape options in games
>anons cry when a girl touches their private parts washout their explicit consent
huh

>>534078851
Why is this allowed up on youtube?

>>534079793
Anon wants to be the rapist ONLY

>>534078323
>>534076806
what is this and is it an actual crpg or "it has health potions and dungeons so its an rpg you play on the computer"

>>534079772
How is a woman receiving buttsex worse than a man being fingered?

>>534079909
It's a video game.

>>534079772
Who says a man can't finger a woman's butthole

Anal is gross and faggy

>>534080152
weak aura

Abelard, find me a wife that does anal. That means RECEIVES anal, so don't make a repeat of last time!

>>534080879
Jocasta, Jae and Kibbles would

Surprising someone during sex isn't rape you guys are being over dramatic.

>>534080879
>anal
razzard go away

Christmas anal session with Yrliet....

On a scale of 1-fucked how playable will my Rogue Trader save from January of 2024 be? Should I just start over with a new save?

>>534081105
it is literally rape when it's done to ME

>>534081105
Ummm your written and signed consent form with a list of acts you intend to do??? Sorry????

>>534081360
Should be fine if you only want to check out dlcs

>romancing a barbarian
>not expecting to get love raped

>karlach is 180 pounds
you can bench press your musclefu, right?

>>534081967
Amiri would never

Can you tards stop thinking about sex for one minute?

>>534082504
no I can't breed

>>534080172
Imagine Diablo but most of the lore you get is either in the game's premise, monster bestiary or can be read in ingame books in a previous game (Depths of Peril).
>it has health potions and dungeons so its an rpg you play on the computer
This but you can decide if you want to do some side quests or just murder some NPCs for no reason. You don't get any dialogue options but there's slight roleplaying/strategic element in how you decide to act around other bands of computer controlled bands (clans) of murderhobos (or how they decide to act around you). As I said though, this element is more pronounced in Depths of Peril, Zombasite or the devs' sci-fi games Drox Operative 1-2 (you are a murderhobo but in a starship and you do what you want as a part of a galaxy-spanning PMC with no sense of right or wrong and you do some looting, killing, questing or trading as some NPC factions try to play a 4X around you.)

A big source of fun in these games is that the devs try to make those worlds alive and evolving. Monsters might fight each other and grow stronger with each victory. Some named enemy might be a coward/thinker who runs before you can kill him and now you should go find him in another region he ran off to. Some monster might be seducing town NPCs to betray it and become killers or do other bad things if he isn't dealt with quickly enough. NPC murderhobos can steal your kills/quests. My favorite example event from another game (but Legacy should still have it, logically) is the forces of darkness sending an assassin to town to murder NPCs, I get back to town before he kills anyone and kill him with help from a nearby guy, Quest solved, yay! What's that, oh a new timed quest, the NPC that just helped me is said to have been poisoned by a blade of a vile assassin, please go to a dungeon in an unknown region to collect some ingredients and do it before he dies.

>>534082643
Stop fucking men then

>>534082504
Fine.
Yrliet is a peculiar gal, isn't she?

Does anyone have Raszard's Yrliet anal fics saved?

>>534082705
Post more about it. I like reading it.

Why are the chaos and dogmatic routes almost exactly the same?

>>534083713
They are not and you are a fucking retard

>>534082967
You should play it! Pirate and maybe buy if you want. Longposting is hard, Also, Tehsnakerer has a great video on Depths of Peril.

>>534082745
never

>>534075328
5E combat. Larian even said they wanted to change combat but WotC forbid them from doing so.

Imagine if Larry Arthur in Dark Heresy manages to knock up the femcel inquisitor with half-eldar babies. How would the community react to that?

>>534085552
We all know that le Arthur is going to be gay, anon.

Only the Lord Inquisitor deserves love and procreation, not some x*nos scum

>>534085552
1000s of straight men are going to be demoralized

I'm in love with this whore. I wish there were more whore waifus in crpgs.

>>534085758
Owlkek knows that gay only characters have unpopular romances, their romances are either straight or bisexual

I FUCKING HATE THE SIEGE!
I FUCKING HATE THE SIEGE!
I FUCKING HATE THE SIEGE!
I FUCKING HATE THE SIEGE!
I FUCKING HATE THE SIEGE!

MAY EVERYONE AT OWLCUNT DIE OF RADIATION POISONING BEFORE THEY EVER GET THE CHANCE TO FINISH DH!

why don't we talk about shadowrun?

>>534085758
Gays are getting the gay Rambo

>>534085758
>>534086497
Are going to be*
Ever since sosiel was a fail

>>534086520
Which siege? Dresen, the tavern, Eufrates?

>>534086592
Need Racter romance

>>534084286
I like him so I will check it out, thanks anon.

>>534086592
I beat Returns a couple years ago and thought it was… okay to middling. Like a 6/10. Way too linear considering how story-focused it was, combat kinda sucked. I’ve tried to get into Dragonfall but I keep dropping it.

>>534086325
You should know by now that we're not allowed to have good things.

>>534086949
The Shadowrun games work very well for a babies first crpg at least.

>>534086592
because they are classics now (you're old) and we will never get more
ever

>>534087096
I agree.

>>534087179
>2014 was 20 years ago

>>534087096
I'd say only if you're into similar settings. If not, it'd be better to start with something else.

daeran seggs

>>534087179
Owlkeks will buy the rights to the series. Trust the plan

>>534086679
>Which siege? Dresen, the tavern, Eufrates?
gotta be dresen
eufrates is a joke

We will never get a Xcom 3...

>>534086520
Are you referring to retaking Drezen? That's one of the best parts, especially if you do not rest every other fight

>>534089094
you should have bought Midnight Suns

>>534089094
>Last cutscene for WOTC is a reference to Terror from the Deep
>Aquatic
Ehhhhhhhhh. Don't know about that. Good thing that there were no games released after that. It ended on good terms.

>>534089094
not a crpg

>>534089094
Good

>>534089094
Wasn't the last one where you get friendly with ayys and they walk around with clothes and integrate into society and shit? Good riddance.
THERE IS NO COMMANDER BUT THE COMMANDER AND CO BRADFORD IS HIS PROPHET

Any 40k powerscalers here? How strong is ablelard?

>>534090237
about tree fiddy

>>534090237
Ha has experience, and nothing matters more

>>534090237
Gameplaywise or lorewise? Because gameplaywise he's probably near Primarch level because lmao 1v1ing a C'tan shard. Lorewise he's... okay, do note that his hip replacements are canonically shoddy and Pasqal had to come fix it.

>>534090237
He's too simple, for a mon-keigh

>>534090237
he's a jagen

>>534090237
Basically solos the universe