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>>533861840>What... is this?Put simply, a simulation of Pro Evolution Soccer being competed between teams which are embodiments of boards of the 4chan imageboard. The players represent facets of each board's culture. All of the matches are AI versus AI. However, humans "manage" each team, creating their tactics and giving input during games as they happen to make substitutions and tactical changes as they see fit.
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/FAQ
>Where can I watch the cup?https://isthisliv.com/4cc/stream.html
>Current Cuphttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2025_4chan_Summer_Cup
>Upcoming Invitationalshttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Gens%C5%8D_Cup_2
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//ag/_League_9:_Faggots_at_the_Bar
>Wiki:https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Main_Page
>Sekkrit Code37pebis
>DLC Passworddivegrass
>Booruhttps://isthisliv.com/booru/
>Other videoshttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Videos
>PES Infohttps://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2017
>Round of 16/b/ - /cm/
/his/ - /pol/
/biz/ - /wsg/
/pw/ - /r9k/
/fit/ - /tg/
/vt/ - /vm/
/sp/ - /tv/
/trv/ - /v/
>Previouslyshitposting
Why did you copy /kfg/?
PES 15 SLOPBALL REVEALED
just run trackback bro
4cc locked into this PES for a year LMAO
GIT GUD sacked???
KEKYPOW, I absolutely enjoy watching the other team dominate possession for most of the game without ever letting us have a chance at the ball! Reminds me of the time I watched my wife with her boyfriend!
Most resentment for specific PES versions comes from the circlejerk and from the manager's hurt feelings, not from the spectator's point of view. When you prioritize managers the fun suffers.
>>534025163this is why we need 16
>>534025163Since people is having fun with 17 we should stay on it.
>>534025163If we're prioritizing spectators logically shouldn't we be going to the PES with the greatest aesthetic capabilities?
>>534025163The only exception to this is 18 which sucks technically, aesthetically, for the managers and in general.
>>53402526721 it is then.
>>534025259Basically.
>>534025267Prioritizing spectators means picking the PES with the best gameplay, not the best aesthetics.
>>534017662Yeah, that template is ancient and not supported by the current compiler. I'll update it in a few hours and let you know.
>>53402545318 is aesthetics-wise identical to 19 and 21.
>>534026234Thanks, I'll try to make them again tonight then
>>53402633018 has some other minor tech problems afair, poor resource utilization and stuttering, nvidia not working right, and in general less funny goal animations than 21.
>>53402609617 is the best viewer experience btw
16 close second.
>>534032570>16 close second.how do you watch divegrass when you have no eyes?
>>534030378I think the game had no major technical issues when not running eye cancer stadiums like Deep Divegrass
Source: ran the game on a 1060.
>>534034254the average retard craves the goalslop
>>534034590>>534034254I want to watch GOALS and MEMES
not some manager 4deep4you shit for 90mins
>>534034590>>534036959Goals are great when you only watch yourteam's match, but when every match has 9 total goals it wears on the patience of the people watching the whole day.
>>534037968Yeah there's got to be a good mix, goalfests lose their luster when it's the only kind of match we get it becomes monotonous. Same for low scoring manager chess matches.
16 has a lot of goals but it wasn't that bad to watch last summer cup, and that was with Sou's retarded ruleset. Like if you see the scorelines the only ridiculous one was /v/ vs /tg/.
I'm convinced the people who like 16 don't care about divegrass and just want to hear a random playlist
>>534046421i always thought that's why the VTL uses it
>>534046421That's most of the viewers desu. They aren't here because they like football they like memes playing football. This goes for any version of the game not only 16.
>>that's most viewers
>keeps being last place in PES polls
>>534048001The average viewer doesn't even vote in those polls.
I want a woman to milk me
The "average viewer" is the "modern audience" of divegrass
The "15 fan" is the "bejitabro" of divegrass
men were made to be milked by twinks
>>534051462gold shipfag btw
>>534049210The modern audience are comfyniggers and VGLcord fags. As in they are the most vocal minority
>>534051698I don't play kancolle or azure lane, faggot.
>>534055094Yeah, The Cleveland Show is surprisingly good. Season 4 went off the rails and made it too Family Guy-esque, but it's better than the other MacFarlane projects in those first 3 seasons.
>>534055094I went to Cleveland one time and there was an absurd amount of black people.
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2025_4chan_Summer_Cup_Fantasy_Football
https://isthisliv.com/ff
>>534056320>bottom 3 not counting the 0 point teamsis it time to kill myself?
>>534058338top of the gamecube
>>534058338I thought she was a futa
>>534062562stonetoss has lost the plot. what's the joke???
>PES 21 patches to make it work
>>534065214why isn't there more porn of this girl. She was made for porn.
>>534056320>2nd place carried by the silvers>my golds did fuck allThank you jaypee, very cool.
https://files.catbox.moe/0wnaec.mp4
Starting
/vm/ GK DOOR STUCK
/vm/ CB /doko/
/sp/ CB Ngubu
/trv/ CB wtf India looks like this???
/pol/ DMF Laineyball
/sp/ CMF My Reffies :)
/r9k/ CMF Maidcore
/vm/ AMF Rigged Polls
/pol/ SS Moonman
/biz/ CF Bogged (V)
/sp/ CF TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU (C)
Bench
/b/ GK Fuckin' Saved
/his/ CB Decisive Tang Victory
/pw/ CB You Tell Me
/trv/ CMF [Place], Japan
/fit/ CMF Rippletits
/pol/ CF Epstein Never [REDACTED] Himself
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Hello has git gud been decommissioned yet?
Keep Git Gud, but put him on his hands and knees like Zero Sanity for Autumn so it looks like he's begging for forgiveness
/vg/ fans are so vocal about removing git gud because there is no such thing as getting good in a gacha
>>534067365Give him an eyepatch and call him punished git gud
Make Git Gud wear cool glasses and a shirt and try to make him talk like a zoomer.
/vg/ be like
>git bad
because the team sucks ass since 2022
>>534068297I second this. All Git Gud needs is a 2025 rebrand
>>534068297Call him Git Ryzz or Git Aura
Git Gud looks worse than he plays
>>534069970He is kinda boring looking desu.
>>534070432Bejita bros want new thread back.
>>533987281too bad limbab was asleep so he couldn't kekfarm this
/vg/ medal line-up after VGL25:
>git gud
>jack frost
>wegh
>leomon
Git Gud has had a long career, and he's too old and busted to handle the schedule of playing both babbies and elites. Thankfully, /vg/ management have just signed his younger brother, Shit Gud, to handle all babby cups so Git Gud can save his knees for the elites.
>>534024463 (OP)>87% possesionI don't see what the issue is, PES15 really is the patrician choice for the cup moving forward.
>>534071664>retarded formations score
>>534071664>/trash/ /zzz/bro>aoba single>ok /kfg/>/b/ dear>rance completely striker>makes defender retard>kekypow playedNow that's a player I want to see for /vg/.
>>534071664>managers better play medalsThank you cloud
What's your favorite military song /4ccg/?
Mine's "Wo Alle Straรen Enden", up to the point I keep humming it when I go on walks.
>>534076404when johnny comes marching home
>>534071664>less boring cups
>>534076292The tsugu has been raped for 7 years
>>534077091Wow, that's 26 years less than Kevin Nash.
2hu cup might have just fixed how to make unpatched 19 the highest goal average PES, mandatory all orange conditions
zoer life with a zoer wife
>>534077839How is that going
>>534077951sheโs very attentive but tries too much, she should take breaks with me on her lap
https://www.landofmemory.eu/en/temoignages/fort-eben-emal-a-fatal-soccer-game/
/k/ stadium when?
/v/ has taken /vg/'s place as the luckshitter that boringly stays elite
/vg/ has taken /vp/'s place as the constant yo-yo
/vr/ has taken /v/'s place as the babby team that sometimes looks good
/vp/ has taken /vr/'s place as the fetus-babby yo-yo
The vidyas all work in cycles
https://rankpoll.me/RmeCSswjgn0
@everyone this poll closes by the start of the final day of Summer and also laventale is a gigantic faggot
>>534081604how will the koreans vote for this? 21 is probably their nostalgia pes but 17 got a /lcg/ star
Lemon's tomboy tanlines.
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Remember to vote for 21 to make horsefuckers seethe so if the VGL does the 4CC goes back to 21 after one cycle on a rushed and unready 15 causes a return to fox
>>534081604>15 losing biglykekypow
>>534083136>if the VGL does the 4CC goes back
>>534081604Where is the kill git gud option
>>534081604what did lav do now
>>534083136>4ccKWABEnjoy a year of PES 15 loser.
17babs already botting the fuck out the poll for more shit quality slop like Summer has been
21 newfags deserve to get shot
>15kwab
>17bab
>21fag
shut up
shut the fuck up
just shut up with your shitty console war bullshit I don't give a shit
>>534084616Worked into a shoot
I don't know what I love more, pes 21 or...
a trustworthy source has informed me aoba will be adding sex and ntr to pes
>>534085128shid, i was planning on doing that
>>534085128which version? which es version is going to be the official ntr version?
>>534081604>69 votes alreadywhy is this public again
>15 losing bigly
>4CC forcing a 15 move
ohhhh man
>21 losing even harder now even with the 30 samefag aoba votes
KEKAROO
>>534086149the wool is no longer over people's eyes anymore
>19 winning
19 wins and reso shoots himself live on stream
>>534086391I think he'd be fine if they bury the italian patch into the ground at the same time.
>>534086391I don't understand why people already want it back after it was just overdone to death
>>534086487I'm assuming we are going back to vanilla if 19 wins.
>>534086391>21 and 19 both have twice as many first place votes than 19What kind of retarded system is this?
>>534086391reso is a shit manager on any PES, what is so special about 19
>>534086786Here's an explanation, if you think you can handle it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked_pairs#Example
>>534087318Just remember we are doing all of this shit just because 21 fags couldn't cope with losing and now it is losing to fucking 19
>>534087449I always assume it's the opposite of what is claimed here
>>534087449No it's because we realized the original poll should've been ranked
>>534087449It's proving them right though, the first one was botted to save 17, now 17 is losing to 19 that was third before
>21 and 19 fags always at each other's throats and calling each other bots
>the actual bots were the 17 voters
>and no one actually wants 15
>17, 19 and 21
This sounds alright for VGL cycles regardless of placement to me. 15 is a meme.
>have been learning aesthetics for 17
>""people"" want to go back to fox PES
I'm going to chimp out if I have to redo everything before I can use it once because some Thai ladyboy wants animated textures and slightly different shaders
>>534027905It's up, sorry it took me so long. Make sure the zip you're grabbing has v2 on it, if it doesn't then please let me know what wikipage you got it from.
Did any of the teams on FAGS have Luna as a player?
17keks on their way to winning KWABoTY 2025
VGL clearly needs to do the follow:
25 - 21
26 - 21
27 - 19
28 - 19
29 - 15
XXX - 15 or 16 if 15 is just trash
>>53409025415 and KWABmin have it locked.
>>53409041325 - 19
26 - 19
27 - 21
28 - 21
29 - 19
XXX - 16
31 - 17
32 - 17
>>534090413VGL XXX is when the sex animations get added
>bot the original poll
>screech for weeks about 17 how won bigly
>go all out shilling for 17 and against 21
>bot the poll until you run out of votes to supress 21
>lose to 19
K W A B 1 7
>>53409051619 was too recent two seasons ago, even if 19 wins this is a clear win for fox and should be 21 for a cycle or two (one if 25 burns out loads of people the feedback from 25 is 21 is shit) then two or three cycles of 19
>>53409070521 is losing bigly still
>>534090886and 17 is losing bigly to 19 that was third in the original poll lmao
>even 18 over 15
I know this is for VGL but there is enough of an overlap to question wtf admin is doing
>even if 19 wins this is a clear win for 21
21 fags are deadass retarded
>>534091037>this is for VGLLiterally got posted on /4ccg/ during a 4cc cup
>>534091165>every time 21 or 19 takes the lead suddenly more votes appear for 17couldn't be more obvious it's being botted
>>534091289Take your second L with some grace.
>21cuck samefagging about 17 losing
I don't care what wins as long as it's not 21.
>more poll autism
Denko should have used a google doc and rigvote so the results are hidden
>>534091175Only a concern if it has significantly more votes than the VGL feedback
>>534091037I saw those two games posted earlier and immediately dropped 15 down
>>534091520You really expected him to use his brain for this?
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>>534091520The website had a "Results visibility" option so he thought the results would stay hidden, but he probably didn't read the choices.
17babs can't stop botting this every time their precious dumpster fire falls behind another PES, might as well start calling them 17jeets
21simps can't handle the heat it seems. Weird because they live in the jungles of South East Asia.
>21 stops getting botted when it's time to go to sleep for SEA
kekaroo
>>534091968Or maybe he thought "Visible after voting" meant "after the poll has been closed". The website doesn't have a button for closing a poll, though.
SAAARS PLEASE REDEEM THE PES 17, GAMEPLAY VERY GOOD, NOT BROKEN, FRIDAY NEVER HAPPEN SAAR
VGL is never gonna leave 17 at this rate
20000 more posts saying "PES X fags are the worst and here is why"
>>534093204VGL viewers at this point functionally retarded. I hope their entire next league on 17 is all as good as 24's final was and Denko has formation bans or nerfs on 433 exports just to rub their noses in it because they deserve it if they keep voting for this utter trash.
17 is going to win just by virtue of not having the permanent haters that 16, 19, and 21 have
Your final was absolute hot flaming dog shit, your team got relegated from Summer and you still want this absolute slop?!
17 is good if you allow height abuse: FACT!
PES 17 allows you to run anything
>>534094143So then everyone just runs 433 height abuse langball, well done playing yourself
I chose 17 because its the most enjoyable to watch
I accidently voted 15 because I didn't realize you had to drag the options
id like 16 or 19
fine with 17 as long as there will be some changes to make langball less desirable
21, 18, 15 can go suck a dick
I chose 17 because I have literally zero faith in my manager on any other version of the game.
my manager fucktoy lost in 17 many times, so i'm voting for any other version but that one
>>534094760>make langball less desirableThat's just not happening. You'd have to make CBs 240cm tall and still they wouldn't able to prevent strikers heading the ball down and back to another striker to bloot it from outside the box. Lang is just the way to play 17, that's why it got massively nerfed in newer installments never buffed again.
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>17keks insisting they aren't botting or rigging the poll
explain this then
>>534095007ban the fucking slider option then.
>>534095260Nah every time you ban something managers bitch for the entire tournament
>>534095048>15 not 1st on last placeyeah, rigged as fuck
>>534095048If anything that's PES19keks rigging the poll
>>534095260Yeah, because the last time we banned the most popular/viable tactic everything went right and no one complained.
>>53409536021 and 17 are tied for 1st on 28 votes, 15 and 18 are clearly the least popular, but somehow 21 has the most votes for last place
>>53409551621 is not as popular as you think
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>>534095657Why is it in first then for first preferences?
>>534095749because the votes are botted for 21
>>534095516I would take 18 over 21 in a heartbeat and I voted 21 last. Get fucked.
>>53409551621 sucks and I put it last because it sucks. cope and seethe.
[Pride News] L'brontale came out.
90 votes seems a little high
>>534095516>>534095657fellas fellas something can be divisive without it being due to botting
I don't get the desire for a 4-3-3 or long ball ban.
>>534096162Denko @'d everyone in the VGL server with the poll so you have all of Asia voting in it.
>>534095997I'm a faggot for tomboys and girls with spats.
>>534096162Donโt point that out
>>534096607holy fucking CRINGE!!!!! KILL YOURSELF!!!
>>534096607Finally something we can agree on.
>>534096607>I'm a faggot...yes, we know
>>534097362i think i won't
>>534024463 (OP)We should do a 4CC on a PS1 or PS2 Winning Eleven title at some point.
>>53409863921fags are desperate as FUCK! Falseflagging as managers in generals they don't even use, sad!
>>534096607I owe you an apology, I wasn't really familiar with your game
>>534098639how sad can people be to false flag in someone's general?
like jesus christ
>>534098639This is why you shouldn't vote for 17 or 21, vote for 19 and punish these faggots
>>534098639>advocating for cancer just so he can sniff r16 again because he's well and truly given up on 17bro...
Time to tell the hoyo generals to vote for PES15
If 17 is still in the lead on Sunday, I'm unironically just going to pay some pajeets to dump a 100 votes on 18 lmao
>>534098639jesus christ dude what's wrong with you
>>534098639>Pretending to be Reso21 fags are so sad
>>534098639>Pretending to be 21 fag pretending to be Resoanti-21 fags are so sad
>>534098757International Superstar Soccer Deluxe
>>534098639>make post in /akg/>then proceed to show post here to go AHHAHAHAHA LOOK AT [X]FAGS TRYING TO CHEATDevilish
>>534098639>Pretending to be an anti-21 fag pretending to be a 21 fag pretending to be ResoReso is so sad
just fucking roll a d6 or something idfk
We NEED the wheel of PES.
>>534102178This but you spin a wheel to see what each weekend of a cup will be played on so you could end up playing 3 or 4 different PES versions in a single cup.
>>534101331anti-21 fags are deranged, even fucking false flagging generals to make 21 look bad
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It's already over.
>>534103937anti18bots working overtime kek
>>53410404918 will surge right before the poll closes and gio will behead everyone who mocked him
I honestly have no opinion on any PES that's not 17 or 19 since I've never seen a game on any other PES.
>>534098639https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/222378191/#q222379961
>>534098639Getting 0 replies in a thread that loves divegrass is a generational falseflagging fumble.
>>534103937because 17keks are fucking cheating cunts
>>534104295Plot twist: They were all here already.
I want PES15, 16, or 18 just to fuck over every newfag manager.
VGLco need to re-run this without showing results, it's so obvious and clearly being botted everything something that isn't 17 goes ahead and then 5 new votes appear with 17 in 1st and 21 in 6th
>>534105131This is the dumb part. Not showing the results until everything is done is like polling 101.
>>534105131running a VGL only poll that isn't ranked and then running an open to everyone ranked poll where results are visible were certainly two choices they made
>>534105131>run poll again without showing results>nothing changes because it gets botted for 17 again
>>534105354>VGL only poll that isn't rankedWhen did that happen?
>>534105481it was part of the VGL feedback form
>>534105436run it again so whoever is making new accounts every time 17 drops behind can't see 17 drop behind and it won't happen
>>534105543>implying they won't keep botting once in a while just in case
He should just poll the managers in private at this point.
>>53410393721 fags keep losing bigly. Start learning VTL buddy.
>>534105768This should be the case. The mass viewers really don't care about the versions of PES. They're there for their generals and will just have fun with that. Most of them probably don't even notice unless it's something really egregious.
How many more hours are we going to be schizoing out about polls and pes versions
21 mindbreaking the schizos so hard they can't stop botting the votes against, easy KWABoTY material
I want to return to shitting on git gud
>>534106376I would say until this website shuts down but it would continue on another chan or in a 'cord.
VGLco have fucked this up so badly they should end the poll now, it's not even hidden how obvious it's being brigaded now it's almost overtaken the feedback form in number of overall votes, on a midweek offseason Tuesday afternoon
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BAH GAWD IT'S 16 WITH THE STEEL CHAIR
dear oh fucking dear, there's no cope anymore.... it's over
>>534107092STOP THE DAMN MATCH
>>534107092Just end the vote already it's pointless even having this when it's so clear the 21 haters are absolutely mindbroken
>>534107331you are so raped dude
Why did 21 lose in the marketplace of ideas?
Good faith question for 21fags: what patch would you want to be used if 21 won?
>>534107501what by probably less than 10 asshurt faggots who voted multiple times just because they can't handle 21 again
>>534107664it lost in the market of asshurt faggots who vote multiple times because they got raped in 18 or 19
>vote on a Tuesday in offseason has in less than 4 hours as many votes as feedback form on final day with viewers around
Great fucking job you're doing Denko, unless VGLco are the ones just botting this?
>>534107939huh? why would people that got raped in 18 or 19 vote against pes 21? wouldn't they vote FOR 21?
>>534108250in vgl 18 and 19
>https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/text/rankpoll.me/
>>534108226Feedback poll wasn't pinging everyone, this did.
>>534108554It was linked on the stream all day
>>534107939Should I be assuming you voted with like 5 different accounts for 21 because your team did well on it and is now getting raped? This reeks of projection.
anti-tachyonKEKS be like: wow she's so cringe because she knows numbers! staring at poll numbers all day and crying about them? so true!
>>534108745Why isn't everyone hatebombing 17 as hard then? It's so obviously managers who got raped by 21 when 21 has nearly double as many 6th place votes by peopel who aren't even voting for 17 they're just voting against 21 because they're so fucking raped
>>534108795>>>/g/106155758That's a melty alright
>>534109145>paying $100 a year for a fucking search engine
>>534108484>Still losing despite all this beggingAND NEEEEEEWW
>>534109939>still cheating and making this poll look even more fraudulent than the first one21 rape victim support group really fucked this one up
>lost the feedback poll
>lost the ranked poll
>will probably lose the manager's vote
Is there a poll 21 can win?
>>534110325it could win the worst pes of all time poll
>>534110325>'won' the feedback poll by 3 votes>cheated the ranked poll bombing 21>will cheat the managers vote too because its clearly just the same 4-7 21 raped managers cheating is there anything 21rape victims wont do?
>>534110325most amount of defenders who make retarded lobs to the midfield
Just retire already sgbong, you weren't good on 21 either.
>>534110325Most gameplay fuckups, including but not limited to teleporting, AI deadlocks, and massive cursor bugs.
Hi, big Bejitabro here! I want a PES where my players run around in a circle for up to 30 seconds, what are some PES versions like this??
>>534111009PES21 goes in all fields.
>>534089950Yes that template does work for me now, thank you.
>>534111513Glad it's fine now. The stuff on the wiki is still a bit of a mess but keep reporting any issues you come across and we'll end up with something that works for everyone.
>>534111981The custom skin color template on the Blender tutorials page is out of date too. You need to change the .xml to gloveL/gloveR and parts to get it to work.
>>534112090Right, that one could take a bit of a refresh too. I'll note it down for tomorrow.
More votes than the feedback form, which was linked and advertised for the entire final day up to the final of VGL 24 and no-one is calling bullshit on this '''vote'''?
Which stat could we raise on nonmedals to help fight longball if that's what we wanted to do? Jump? Physical Contact? Coverage would probably buff defense in general.
>>534117351>Which stat could we raise on nonmedals to help fight longball if that's what we wanted to do?Long ball dies to midfield possession heavy tactics.
>>534117750Except when it doesn't
>>534117750But all the 3-5-2s got wrecked by the longballers. They cycle the ball around while moving forward, lose it eventually, then get countered over top of the midfield who had pushed.
>>534117351Physical Contact. (And make Trackback a free card)
Which PES version would Kasane Teto want?
>>534120387Kasane Teto is a hag, so she would choose PES15.
>>534120759Alex the esl KING
>>534120759>Sin TituloAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWW
>>534120759>Sin tรญtuloAlex schizo hater confirmed a spic.
>[ADMIN NEWS]
/gd/, /x/, /t/ all likely dead by Autumn, Forcing /i/, /aco/ and /vr/ in the fetus.
reminder that Myercer the plumber only got to HWC two times in a row because he got paired up with a /u/ plant who threw for him, /llsifg/ in 23 and /nepgen/ in 24
Myuer only got to Huge White Cock two times?
>>534122919from Cockbrush
>there is at least one janny in the VGL
OH NONONO
time to get looking through the kiwifarms lists and run โem out to join Amph KWABing out after being exposed
>the janny was troonsoup
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, HOLY SHIT
>>534132000here's what she thinks about all this
>>53413298318 bros we rise after 17
>>534133218>he thinks there's an after 17If there's even the slightest real chance of 18 the 17 crybitches will brigade it and downvote it out of existence when it gets polled
>>534133465I've never once in my life seen someone so raped.
>>534133692Nice projection 21 rape victim
>>534133692kys you fucking downvoting redditor
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vm needs to vote her back in
>>534134068All I hear from you is "I'm raped!"
>>534136223shut the fuck up horsefucker
>>534136349where's a rape kit we need to collect the semen STAT
/vt/ needs to vote her back in
PES2021, PES2017, PES2015, man, why never PES2018?
>>534136349>accusing me of being a horsefuckerNot beating those allegations I'm afraid
>>534136939I need the entire squad as a player
>>534132983>reddit>reseterakek
>21 is losing to fucking 16
oh no no no
*wheeze*
look at the top of his head!
16bros our time will come
21fags really had melty for weeks about ranked choice only to come 4th(fourth)(worse than 3 other games).
>>534024463 (OP)Demonic possession?
What the fuck did you nignogs do to Kregg? Why is there a nigger and a woman now?
>>534155093Zoer is S tier
>>534134106specially so the /jp/ drawfag can draw her, i agree
>>534137389Because it's boring
I want goalfests
The aesthetics suck
Based big markets sucked at it except /pol/
>>534160118>The aesthetics suckLiterally the same as 19/21
>>534137389it's broken, unironically. Billboards blow up nividia cards unless you add a mesh layer to them.
>>534160118No goals is a stupid complaint because that's something easily fixable. I'm more interested in how it plays, which is why I want to see a modern 18 invitational where someone did homework on the rules beforehand.
>>534136939what did Henya/Pika did this time? (except not getting paid by VShojo)
Be a chad, a scumbag or a good guy
How do I get my co to start eating more pineapple?
Gameplay wise, should I stay in PES 2006?
>>534183891Neuro is for raping.
Evil is hugs and headpats.
VGL vote needs to be run again but as a run-off between PES 16 and PES 19. It's clear from the voting that 17 is being artificially boosted by people who hate 21 and would rather stop it than actually want 17 and both make people asshurt over it. 16 and 19 have both the strongest second preference support but more importantly have the lowest last preference votes against. Enough people would be ok with it and no-one outright hates it like 21 and 17.
Just end the consolewarring already and settle on a compromise choice.
>>534187638In that case logically 16 for next VGL so we donโt have to swap aesthetics
>>534187771I would be fine with this.
>>534187771VGL should do what the 4CC did in reverse, 17 > 17 > 16 > ???
>>534188021Yes.
If you are considering 16 whatsoever as an option it should be next VGL.
>>534187638>reddit spacing Average 16 and 19fag
>>534187638>It's clear from the voting that 17 is being artificially boostedProofs?
Wheel
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Next vgl should be on 17 or 16, then after that we can spin the WHEEL OF PES. Run a new poll. First place gets on the wheel 6 times, second place 5 times, etc, then throw yourself at the wheel's mercy.
Which version of PES voters are the most raped?
>>534188780Anyone who advocates any PES version over another.
>>534188181If it's the easiest thing to do technically VGLco should end the vote and do it.
>>534188780Clearly the anti-21 voters that can't stop downvooooting like they're asshurt redditors. Just accept 16 or 19 if you're so scared about being raped again by 21.
Take the number of votes and run it mod 6 + 15 to pick the next PES version
>>53418878021fags seem to be very raped
>>534188780It's close between 21 voters and people who are specifically anti-21. I would give it to anti-21 because they're a lot more vocal about it, and the more direct names attached to it, the more raped they are.
>16
The easiest technical option, everyone's aesthetics will still work, database and everything else was already updated for 4CC so everything works, will shut the screeching up about 17. Lowest number of last ranked votes against. Highest number of second choice votes with a clear margin.
>19
Fox aesthetics, aesthetically better than 21, middle ground consensus votes are going towards 19. Not as slurpy or boring as 18 for viewers. Formation variety even if it's just 433 or 442, none of the patch screeching and not as visibly broken as 21 without patches, unpatched is viable. Didn't mindbreak managers as hard as 21 did.
>>534189917And 16 was last used in VGL 5 years ago.
>>534188780Read the thread and guy screaming about 17 and you tell me.
>>534190134VGL 25 on 16 then, it's clearly going to end the consolewarring and the least unpopular choice.
>>534189917>aesthetically better than 21wut
Just move the 4cc to a different sports genre
>>53419048719 looks more stable and the glow effect on 21 is eye cancer
>>534190579This. It's time for the REAL football
>>534190653they're exactly the same, if anything 21 is better because there are less model size restrictions compared to 19.
the "glow effect" (im guessing you're referring to emission on players like the glownigger?) is just a certain shader that im pretty sure both 19 and 21 have.
no idea what you mean by 19 "looks more stable"
>>534190579Finally, WRASSLING will be the main focus as Vince intended.
>>534190663Finnish swamp football?
>>534190663Whoโs the Miami Dolphins of the 4cc?
After meditating on voting I have determined this is probably the best way to do roster polling for VGL where you can easily poll twice.
>do the main roster poll using approval voting (tie break for 23rd place using a modified approval voting system that slightly increases the weight of people who had more failed picks)
>ranked choice among the top 10 for medals allowing for equality between candidates like 1 = 2 = 3 > 4 = 5 > 6 etc. (Rigvote works with this)
Things aren't going to be that way... After years of being bullied by his sisters, the brother finally reaches his limit. The long-standing power balance between the three is easily shattered
by the overwhelming power of his male penis... Which of these two sisters' onaholes will he impregnate?
>>534187638>actually itโs cheating to rank 21 lastamazing cope. itโs not cheating, people just hate it.
Alex if you're awake: you ARE the schizophrenic one!
Now go back to testing or all 10 of your toes will be sucked on!!!
>>534198425/u/ is literally already testing on 15 btw
t.knower
>>534199114>testing on 15 when the editor hasn't been updated to use 15 savesi wouldn't put it past /u/ desu
After observing discourse around PES versions, i have deduced that we need to poll PES versions for next 15 days so every version has chance to be botted at least once. #LeaveNoPESVersionBehind
>>534200168You can just use the old editor
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2015/PES_Next-Gen_Editor_2015
>>534200168there is old editor for 15
>>534199114>testing alreadywatch them lose to [s4s] or some shit and get sent down to the fetus
>>534196448>people just hate itWell actually they don't, if you combine first and second preferences of what people actually want over certain schizos that are extremely raped and mindbroken by 21 so they keep trying game the voting system to sabotage 21 then 21 actually wins and has a majority of voters. The clear ones no-one wants are 15 and 18, 21 is being bombed by schizos who are desperate to stop it.
Ranked by first and second votes combined:
>2138+23 (61)
>1610 + 42 (52)
>1921+28 (49)
>1738+11 (49)
>1520+14 (34)
>184+13 (17)
It shows just how distorted this is by tactical voting against 21, because the actual positive vote between which people want to see is a clear two horse race with 21 and 16. Also that 18 is wanted by next to no-one.
>>534200904>21 actually wins if you simply ignore all the people who donโt like it and put it lastamazing insight
Can someone apply bayesian to the voting to see real results
>>534200904>if you ignore the parts that make 21 lose, 21 winswoah
Also 17 being in clear last place in second preferences shows you this isn't an organic vote for 17.
>>534201185From the directors of "/xivg/ actually won against /fgog/" and "21 actually beat 17 in the final day poll", a brand new cope is coming this Summer in a theater near you.
>>534201312Or it shows that opinions are very divided
>>534201185>>534201305Take the two first lists of preferences what people are voting for and not against then you don't get the same and you clearly see 17 isn't backed by anything but a vocal minority. No-one likes 17 as a plan B.
>>534201346Can't wait, I will call Robert to reserve some tickets for the kinoplex screening.
>>534201529No it shows most people either want or are neutral on 21, the same isn't true with 17 and most 17 voters are deliberately voting 17 1st and 21 6th, few people want 17 as a back up or something they're neutral on.
>>534201537>rank these options from what you want most to what you want the least>I want pes 21 the least. I will put it last.>nooo you canโt do that!!!
>>534201947>offer vote ranking to a bunch of autists who know how to game a voting system to stop something they don't want despite being a minority>the same 38 people just ruin the whole poll for everyone else with extreme tactical votingsurprised pikachu
>>534201926Which is a logical outcome because 17 is status quo. If you want a change itโs because you donโt want to continue with the status quo.
>>534201926>If you ignore the people that don't want 21, most people either want it or are neutralKek, keep baiting I wanna see how these arguments progress
What PES wins if we apply common sense to the poll
>>534200904What a raped bitch
>>534201947>use the system optimized for making everyone slightly unhappy>tHiS Is SO muCh BeTteR tHAn FirSt PAst tHe PoSt
>>534202264Most votes are for something else, 17 isn't winning first or second choice votes combined. 16 is clearly ahead of 17 yet alone 21, that's a vote for change. 17 voters are just 38 people fucking the whole poll up for the other 90 voters because they can't cope with how hard they got raped last time 21 happened.
>>534199114I'm already testing on 15 too and it means absolutely nothing
>>534202391Commonsense is ignoring the poll, recognising that we only have 4 viable options and that some point in the future every option will have to be used again and telling people to suck it up.
16-19-21-17-16-19-21
Depending on how viable 15 and 18 are they can be added to the roster but the cup will probably have to make that step before vgl will consider.
>>53420239116 or 19, neither has strong votes against, both have strong votes for
>>53420239117 because it won twice already
>>534202548But 17 also won the first past the post vote during the VGL. Itโs simply the winner can we move past this complaining yet?
The clearest loser in this is 15 and 18, both have been firmly rejected - and yet the 4CC wants to do 15.
kekypow
Is this the right place to ask why /f1/ is in /sp/ and not /xs/
>>53420288421 and 17 are tied in first past the post, but this whole thing would have been prevented if Denko hadn't made the results visible so this didn't just descend into vote stuffing to stop or artificially boost one result or theo ther
>>534202986/xs/ might as well not exist and just be /sumo/ instead. That's the only group of people that use that board.
>>534202986you can post in the 3.5 year old /f1/ thread on there if you want :)
>>534203364No i meant that 17 won the first past the post vote that was held on the final day of the vgl
>>534202952>poll made by VGLco for VGL>why isn't 4CC considering the results of this poll?
>>534203480By 3 votes, and it was practically a three way tie. All the past ones have shown a clear consensus. That had 111 responses, this is probably going to hit 200 or more by Sunday and entirely because people are just stuffing votes or botting the poll now they can see where the results are going. Either VGLco needs to re-run it with hidden results until the end. Or have a run-off with first past the post or first and second preferences because it's clear most people don't want or care about 15 and 18 now. Ranked has fucked up because it's just being skewed to fuck by tactical voting by a quarter of the voters.
>>534203581Cause look at how many viewers and managers are in the 4CC too, it has implications for that too if both audiences and participants are firmly rejecting 15 on another major competition.
The poll is which version should be CONSIDERED, not picked. But looks like 21 shouldn't even be considered, it's that bad.
/admin/ need to consider why there is such a rush to 15 too when it's taken such a hard L when put to a vote. A week or two ago most people either were neutral but up for a change and considering a PES that might be as good as new. A week later and after a first look at what 15 is probably like, it's getting a firm rejection.
Autumn/Winter cycle needs to be on 16 until 15 is tested properly..
>>534204153So why is 21 getting the largest share of the vote when first and second preferences then? 17 is just a loud minority that want 17 and are desperate to stop 21. No-one wants it as a back-up plan.
Vglco wants to stay on 17 (or prefox) anyway due to the annoyance of having to port aesthetics over to fox. The poll is just something that they can point at and say people were fine with 17. Even if 21 did win, they'd still stay prefox and think about 21 for vgl26.
>>53420458216 has more first and second choice votes than 17 so VGL so go to 16 then, that's still prefox.
>>534204582Also all the pet teams are doing well in 17 (except /akg/).
>4ccg is still timelooping about polls and pes versions
I thought this was /vg/ not /vt. Nobody seems to be able to agree on anything.
>>53420440415 is going to be shit for streamers too and I really can't wait to see how they cope with their decision
People said "DUDE 17 is so GOOD you can run ANYTHING" before the meta devolved into langball spam and ruined alot of it's rep, so this go around on 15 could be anything. Anyone saying with certainty "It's going to be so BAD" or "It's going to be so GOOD" is a retard.
>>534205248>allow HA strikersruleset issue
>half the teams still running red heightsskill issue
>>534202986All motorsports should be sent to /xs/ because it would rejuvenate both boards and also driving a car is not a sport. /heem/ should be sent to /pw/
>>534204578>No-one wants it as a back-up plan.Yeah, the people want it as the main plan!
>>53420501315 will be fine for a cup cycle. None of the PES versions are anywhere near as bad to watch as people pretend.
damn... 21 fell off hard...
Who gives a shit about what PES things are on. Iโve managed every PES since 16 and they are all the same pretty much
>>534205871/my team/ won on a specific PES so if we go back to it, we'll win again!
>>534206238TMAny Kahn will use 21 since absolutely no one cares they all are autopilots anyway
>>534205725Why is it tied with 17 for first choice then?
If VGLco didn't want to change PES anyway then why the fuck is this vote even happening? Just run a simple 16 or 17 poll.
AES question: I have a couple loli characters on my team and I would like to make it so they appear smaller on the pitch. How can you do that? I tried scaling everything down inside of Blender but that broke something with the skeleton I think. Tamamo from /mggg/ for example appears normal in Blender but is smol ingame and I can't figure out how that works.
>>534207343It's a weight painting thing.
>>534205807>>534205013Is 15 good for aesthetics? Does everything backport well?
As long as I get to see funny lads running around and occasionally scoaring some goals then I'm good.
>>534207343Just use canon heights
>>534207516The 15 AES is for the most part the same as 16/17 AES
>>534207007He's going to prove all the 21 Haters wrong by making unpatched 21 good with pure stats autism
>>534207516Itโs functionally identical to 16 for viewers
>>534207920>Messi signing up with /tf2g/Is this the biggest market change of the season?
>>534207831If he wants to use his time to figure out stats and convince the other leagues that everything doesn't need to be 77 or whatever, than more power to him.
>>534208185He's been doing that for 4+ VTLs now.
>>534207343The tutorial's on the AES dicksword under "underpainting"
>>534207920Lifelong /tf2g/ fan since the transfer, what's our history? Who are our rivals?
>>534208245Why are you referring to yourself in the third person?
>>534208245A shame that nobody outside /vt/ users can stomach watching one of those to see what it's like.
>>534208906Just watch with the sound off. That's what I'm going to be doing.
>>534208524>what's our history?losing
>Who are our rivals?/tnm/ (deceased)
>10th game to feature benuldies happened in autumn 13
>20th game happened winter 17
>30th game happennd spring 18
>40th game happened autumn 19
>now on 46 games to go to benuldies
what was it about the original 17 run that had so many benuldies? same with extra time where milestones were hit every other cup
>>534212763Okay, Bird or Limbab.
I've never really gotten men being raped. Like you guys are supposed to be the strong ones?? Just fight back?? Like unless you're under 10 I don't understand how it happens.
>>534209945strikers not being efficient and putting shots away means a higher chance at a draw in any given game, konami overcorrected after 16
>>534213367It happened to me, a 6'10 man.
>>534213367It could happen to anyone, even if you're a 7 foot tall 320 pound seven time world champion
>>534213458except they forgot to correct long shots which is why knockdown longball is the meta
>"I'm fan of portraits and tactical input meaning something instead of just Goals goals goals lole"
>>534213364Imagine working your ass for your team, loving your general and giving it all, just to be put in the same sentence as limKWAB.
Everything that lav is saying in the VGL cord about PES16 is wrong.
>>534214832>/vm/ - 0kekypow!
>lack of goal variety
Solved with Stats autism
>too many goals
Mitigated with stats autism and a Goal Poacher ban
>long match days because of lots of goal horns
GS 1 and stop yapping.
Every single argument against PES16 is invalid or solvable.
>>534214832Biggest 16 haters
>caretaker who tried to make his own team lose>manager who can't orgasm unless he wins 1-0>guy who hates managing>the merc
>>534216450>manager who can't orgasm unless he wins 1-0who
>>534216434They fixed goalkeepers?
>>534216813GKs being broken don't matter when you minimize the shots that activate the broken animation.
>>534216939That sounds like bullshit.
>>534216434>it's fixable, just trust me bro
>>534216815that's a smirk from me chief
>>534216939What shots activate the broken animation
>>534217135Mostly Curlers.
>>534216434>stats autismkill yourself tma
>>534217326Toki wants to do 66/77/88 on PES16
ChadMA bout to BTFO patch niggers
>>534217463>LET'S FUCK THE DEFENSE EVEN MOREVGL match days will last forever.
>>534217965tma couldn't btfo flies to shit
>>534215139Limbab also does the same for his team though?
>horsefuckers getting uppity over unpatched 21 being fixed without patches
>>534217463who the fuck is toki
>>534218529some vglcord namefag
Toki
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>>534218529Ramen, RamenRaisin, aesthetics guy, former /vn/ manager, former /skg/ manager, former /a/ manager, caused Lear to make an edit to the 4cc rules with the description "Eat a dick Ramen."
>>534218723Glad I'm not the only one who thinks of this Toki every time.
>>534218958that's a lot of formers
sounds like a slut
>VGLco realising different PES play differently and need a ruleset that suit each.
so, there was not a single cup nor invitational on PES 15 since 2015?
>>534190653>the glow effect on 21 is eye cancerthis
>>534219750that's because using older versions of PES in invitationals didn't become the norm until the move to PES 18 as most invitationals stayed on PES 17 because of aesthetics
>>534220449>>534220521And /admin/ 100% confirmed PES 15 for autumn with no take backs without even preparing a single test cup?
>>534219709This becomes a critical issue if you're a lazy commissioner who avoids putting effort into considering rules.
>>534220615they didn't, boris made it his mission to stress that nothing was confirmed but it is looking that way
>>534219709For everything people say about TMA, he actually tests his rulesets.
>>534220615The plan is to have a test cup the first weekend of September.
>>534220615As long as the game functions why do they need one?
Pes15 will shake things up tactically regardless.
>>534221814I do find it funny that rule#2 of vtl is
>/vt/ League is not a serious competition and ought not be taken particularly seriously by anyone involved.and he is the one commissioner who extensively and autistically vets his rules.
>>533805985I've finally remembered the solution to this.
You need to go to the Tracking Protection settings and add an exception for https://cy [remove] tu.be (and https://cytube.implyingrigged.info while you're at it), which will allow youtube to recognize your account even though you're not on youtube.
For some reason most computers don't need that, I don't know the distinguishing factor.
>>534222536>As long as the game functions why do they need one?What rules are we going with? Just the ones from its initial run with eventually some tweaks? Or a brand new one?
I mostly want to avoid a repeat of Spring 19 where we end up having an entire shitty cup just to realize the rules aren't suitable. And the issue is 15 hasn't been touched in a decade, so it's not like you can just bring it back without minimal effort to ensure it's fit for use today.
I think the issue with long ball spam is less long ball being overpowered and more managers being lazy and copying other teams.
>>534225348longball is an utterly infuriating tactic to use and play against, it's just not all that consistent and you kinda do need to build an export around it to some degree
trying to unnecessarily shoehorn longball into an export not really built for it is just how you get this cup's /u/
>>534226768This /u/ definitely deserved the "what were they cooking" if that segment existed on FB. They stuck with their same 3-5-2 export that was barely scraping by in the spring, but this time they tried to force it to go 4-3-3 and used it in all their games as a 433 instead of just creating a proper 4-3-3 export from the start. A very strange decision.
>>534225348I only run long ball because I got pissed off about losing to a team running long ball. If my chances of winning are low anyways might as well hope for momentum like they got instead of actually trying with short passing.
>>534227308The testers were getting uppity so they let them build an export this time.
>>534206154โฆyou mean the last vglel winner?
kekypow
>>534227308>barely scraping by in the spring>only lost when keeper was purpleDid we watch the same Spring Babby?
>>534227308sticking with the 3-5-2 was absolutely justifiable, they were maybe the best team in spring running 3-5-2 and 3-4-3 throughout. trying to make it into /mlp/ was not at all justifiable, at least not in the way they tried to make it happen
>>534228468>>534228460>free group>They barely managed to beat an auto, which they couldn't defeat on elites.>lost to a 442Yeah?
how to make a 3-5-2 able to play 4atb good, a simple guide
>give LMFs and RMFs LB and RB double As, respectively
>have a couple 77 CMFs in the bench ready to go for 4atb mode
>make normal 4-3-3/4-4-2 preset
boom done. simplest shit ever. probably like a third of the cup already does this. don't galaxy brain yourself like /vp/ unless you want to become /vp/
>>534228925Well that's what /u/ did and they failed, you bozo. The real question is why do you want to have both at all, what is the reason you want a 352 if you already have a 433 gameplan etc.
how to make any formation good, a simple guide
>just roll good stats and use voodoo magic to wrangle the machine spirit to make the other team play shit
boom done
>>534229171I refuse to manage because I know that the machine spirit will have more respect for me than any other manager and give me free wins
>>534229085>what is the reason you want a 352 if you already have a 433 gameplan etcMore variety, formations play slightly different. 3-5-2 might be a bit easier to run possession with depending on how you build the team.
>>534203480That was a poll with approval voting ("pick all the choices you're fine with"), quite different compared to first part the post ("pick only your favorite").
>>534229085>Well that's what /u/ didno it is not. they ran an LB+3CB backline and had their RMF built to be a wingback play CMF, which is not how almost any actual 4atb is run
>The real question is why do you want to have both at allflexibility. frankly /u/ did not need it because their 3atb is still very good but it is not hard to make an export that plays all of 3-5-2, 3-4-3, 4-4-2, and 4-3-3 competently and all four of those formations are worthwhile
>>534229446/u/ spent like half of spring playing possession short 3-4-3 and it worked out pretty well for them
>>534206238What did he mean by this?
When we use PES16 I'm using Poacher-Dummy 4-3-3
When we use PES17 I'm using langball 4-3-3
When we use PES18 I'm using center 4-4-2 diamond
When we use PES19 I'm using wide 4-4-2 diamond
When we use PES21 I'm using center 3-4-3
You may think moving to PES15 will stop me but all I need is to watch one cup
>>534216450Now do biggest 16 lovers.
Whatever went on with Group H this cup before the first match and during it will end up being one of the strangest mysteries in recent cup history unless everyone involved comes out and gives their side from behind the scenes. The weirdest group and set of stories I have heard in a while hearing it from multiple people and teams involved. There was a lot more to it than face value and a lot to learn about over relying on testing, mind gaming yourself out of running something that works and underestimating autopilots. And then /trv/ just sat back and laughed through it and will probably go on to make top 4 without breaking a sweat.
>>534230765Biggest 16 lovers
>guy who likes goals>guy who likes goals>guy who likes goals>guy who likes goals
>>534230774What went on with /u/ and /jp/?
Also /trv/ is not getting past the /sp/-/tv/ winner, and honestly /v/ will be a challenge too.
>>534231947>What went on with /u/ and /jp/?/jp/ got spooked by early goals so bad their management imploded on the spot
>>534230270MarcoZ said that he'll give a 50 euro giftcard to anyone that can make unpatched PES21 watchable.
Why do I feel like every team in r16 are frauds? Am I possessed by the spirit of Crimson?
>>534232272Interesting, I guess.
>>534232371A couple of them are like /sp/ (always drawing dogshit groups) , some are just longball mercs.
>>534232371Nah I've felt since the first day that this elite had a babby smell to it (that makes sense in my brain). Really doubt the winner is going to be some memorably impressive team.
>>534232707I think that if a team like /b/ wins it would be memorable despite feeling like a baby cup. I don't think PES can be cursed enough to make /cm/ win but that would be just funny as fuck considering how they advanced.
>>534232371Not all of them are frauds, but this is a weak as fuck elite in general. The only teams that seem not fraudulent are /pw/ and /tv/. /his/ and /biz/ might be good as well, but they're bigger question marks.
>>534233265>/pw/ and /tv/I can easily make up that they're frauds. /sci/ were not a real team, /tv/ PES'd /d/, and /pw/ beat /d/ purely off god momentum.
>>534233421Yeah, even they had a questionable group. It's just that bad.
>>534233421Can't spell robbed without /d/
>>534232371/sp/ are seemingly the only team to remember that short passing 4-3-3 is good, instant advantage for them
>>534235742Against the sort of passive opponents they faced that is a good option.
AIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE..... GUSIC-SAMA PLEASE FORGIVE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what the fuck is this aaaaaaaaaaaaa i hate aes
>>534237278WTF is this real??
>>534237278Jiren did absolutely nothing this cup, Gusic was legitimately the more impactful player since he got an assist at least
Bakushin
Bakushin
Bakushin
Bakushin
>>534237278PATHETICren the WORTHLESS
>>534237278OH NONONO JIRENSCHOLARS?? OUR GOAT IS LOSING TO A CAT??
If Gusic is so good why is he not a medal?
>>534237983Many are asking this
>>534237983Since Gusic already plays like a 99, making him a medal would be a waste.
>>534237983Nepotism, previous managers don't like him.
>>534237983Comfy shitter meme. The board doesn't care.
>>534237983TRAPPED and BETRAYED by his m*n*ger just like Sneed
/mu/ vs. /trash/ for the k-pop bowl
>>534238286>comfy shitter memeso you've never been to /mu/.
zoer life with a zoer wife!
>>534239312I'm pretty sure /trash/ has a kpop thread
so whats the ETA on sou stuff again, thursday wrestlling friday garbage?
>see someone link a 15 editor and say they were using this since the normal editor doesn't work
>"oh cool let me take a look"
>Sorry, the file you have requested does not exist.
wow thanks
>>534237278Reminder /mu/ would have advanced if they started Gusic
VGL 25 on Taito Power Goal
https://youtu.be/etIyxCkWkiY
>>534249483Works on my machine
/ag/ league deadline in 10 days
>>534260112I think you're cute
>>534251609/mu/ would have 4 stars at this point if they never had gusic, now that's a fact.
>>534238264but the current manager likes him
Gimme your top 4 right now, 4ccg
>>534264137penis
cock
dick
wang
>>534264137Satono Diamond, King Halo, Mejiro McQueen, Mayano Top Gun
>>534264137zoer, zoer, zoer and zoer
>>534264137>4th: /fit/>3rd: /his/>2nd: /tv/>1st: /pw/
>>534264137hamburger, hot dog, fried chicken, apple pie
>>534264498I ate all of these today actually
>>534264137Jackie Chan
Jackie Chan
Jackie Chan
Jackie Chan
Also known as 4Chan
>>534264137Not sure if you mean for the cup or not but:
>4th: /sp/>3rd: /wsg/>2nd: /vt/>1st: /b/
>>534264137Silence Suzuka, Mayano Top Gun, Super Creek, Haru Urara
What kind of sushi should I order tommorow?
>>534265907are you in japan? if not then you're not ordering sushi at all
>>534265996the fuck's that supposed to mean?
>>534264137/sp/ /cm/ /tg/ /pw/
>>534265146This would be the ideal outcome
>10 of the 16 teams in knockouts are longballers
>2 of the other 6 are autos
>have to use this PES again for VGL where 6 of the final 8 were also longballers
>4cc's alternative to this is using a PES where you can get 90% possession'd to death
>>534274842no no no dont you get it you HAVE to enjoy longball header slop
>>534274842>>10 of the 16 teams in knockouts are longballers
i'm not sure any more than 6 teams in the knockouts actually run longball a majority of the time. which, to be clear, is still a lot of teams but longball is not necessarily the meta. it's just a viable option that plays way differently than in basically any other PES
also half the VGL24 final day didn't regularly use longball i don't think. /vrg/ mostly used longball as bus parking and used short pass most of the time, /kfg/ /smtg/ and /ink/ went all longball all the time, so it's like 3/8 full longball teams
as far as PES15 goes, expectation should probably be "what if PES16 had working goalkeepers and way less pressing"
>>534276214/kfg/ used short too.
>>534277794yeah but most if not all of their knockout run was on longball
I don't enjoy voting for the next PES for VGL25 knowing that Lav's vote counts just as much as mine, a manager's, after how he KWABd out last league.
>>534279290Lav this lav that, how about you lab the art of getting bitches, nigga?
this is gonna be months of pointless shitflinging, should have just given the decision to the hat
>>534216434you drunk? game speed 1 means the game runs faster relative to the clock, not that the clock runs faster, meaning more highlights and replays, meaning SLOWER matches.
>>534217463this is garbage and something /rules/ tried back then with the consensus being it made the game unwatchable because non-medals' quality of play went downhill
>>534285404It should be something like 80/87/92 if the concern is stopping constant 11 goal games. Reduce the distance bewteen nonmedal and medal, don't make the nonmedal defenders even worse. The stamina usage alone on 66/77/88 would be terrible
>>534285243>not that the clock runs fasterProofs? I've tried running a PvP match on +2 gamespeed without touching either controller and the clock hit half time faster on +2.
Life with a cute zoer wife, pounding her cervix as we wait for the deadline to arrive.
>>53420473816 is a shit PES which can tongue my fucking anus, along with anyone who voted for it
>>534264137/vt/
/pol/
/r9k/
/sp/
A /tg/ vs /r9k/ final would be a first time match up and the oldest first time match up yet.
I am waiting for the rain
>>534299481I don't think the autos will be good enough to consistently win 3 matches in a row, this isn't PES18.
excited for the upcoming games
>>534121409>/i/, /aco/ and /vr/cull /i/ and /aco/
What kind of sushi should I order today?
Now that the dust has settled, why did 21 flop worse than Blue Archive on Steam?
>>534310490Previous VGL tournaments on 21 were a disaster, and there doesn't even seem to be a plan or even a discussion on what to do with the game in terms of patching it or not if we do return to it.
And if it's just going to be one of the last patches used then I'm shoving 21 at the bottom of the list and I assume others did too because all of those patches were fucking garbage.
It's one of the only PES versions where the average viewer can recognize something is fucked with the gameplay.
>>534310485Please don't bully me.
>>534312210Wow, please stop talking to me if you're going to be mean.
>>534287820Functionally speaking, NMs need major buffs to not be completely useless on defense in PES16
>>534310490Most people are old enough to remember the VGLs on 21. 18 was probably better (on the spring patch) than 19 on summer patch and the formation ban.
Honestly I'm surprised 19 did well too considering how sick everyone was of 19 as well, if we go back to it I hope we also use both HA brackets.
>>534311093>there doesn't even seem to be a plan or even a discussion on what to do with the game in terms of patching it or not if we do return to it.VTL has the pleasure (misfortune) of being the first unpatched PES21 league when they move to it next spring. I think if the VTL can make it watchable, you'll see some more momentum to return to PES21.
>>534313196The only way that's going to happen is individual stat autism and vgl seems entirely opposed to that, so it's going to have to be around 82 points for nonmedals maximum, and no manlet buffs or else you end up with the summer 24 problem.
tma's retardation has poisoned the well and vtlcels are trying to poison the /4ccg/ well with his statsloptism
>>53431394882 NMs would help, but they aslo need a height advantage over golds and silvers as well as silver level DP. But with 82 NMs, you get NMs that just never die.
>>534314249There is nothing wrong with stats autism.
Stats autism doesn't cause cursor glitches like patches do.
>>534313439Will it though? Doesn't seem to have too much overlap with VGL and 4cc when it comes to viewers and managers. Just like not many are aware of what they do with 16.
>>534309772Just merge /aco/, /h/ and /d/
>>534314673Why has /h/ ever done to you?
>>534314489You'll hear all about it from Der ShillenMeisterUndรexAnschlag
>>534314626I'd fuck Hazbin Hotel
>>534314489I mean, if VTL10 proves MarcoZ wrong, then he won't have any leg to stand on regarding unpatched 21, so he'll stop naysaying it.
>>534314626Charlie's shirt in the first panel
Don't let /aco/'s dogshit roster distract you from the fact that /co/'s roster is also abysmal dogshit
>>534314860I think MarcoZ is a clown anyway. But it's fine if VTL beta tests this stuff for everyone.
>>534314717Have an AI Slop player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd8Zjg9mxA0
>>534315024/co/ has potential but is really anti dimes. I don't know why
>>534315423boris sockpuppet
>>534315423Names only roster for some reason.
It has a lot of potential because the characters have a lot of personality but they are never presented like it. Best example: Charlie and Pim are just "SMILING FRIENDS". then you have their four medals, Doom, Gaston, Carl, Aku all named as such.
>>534315423[Sad News] Team's roster became 4cc-core before it became good
Ngl I'd be open to submitting an export for an invitational on 18 since I've never done anything on that PES
>>534317282Literally just "The Smiling Friends" would be better, referring to them as a unit from their place of work, but they made their name the name of the fucking show. It's so fucking lazy.
Sticking out your gyatt for the crimson
You're so realpilky
You're so tma
I just wanna be your zoer
>>534317282Fuck it here I'll help you out /co/. Some ideas.
"THIS [opponent, opponent based thing, match etc] BELONGS TO DOOM"
"NO ONE SCORES LIKE GASTON" Pretty sure they did this before already when he was GK and it was saves instead
"EXTRA THICK" or you can keep Aku as the one character name, this is fine
"IT DON'T MATTA" or "NONE OF DIS MATTERS"
And the worst post award goes to... Anonymous!
>>534319089Why give all the players funny names if commentators will continue to call them Character Name?
>>534315423>>534317282The problem is that /co/ is basically cultureless. It doesn't really have any throughline memes or jokes, it's really more like a general board than /tv/ or /v/
>>534319261It sets up for easy lines for when they score or a punchline if they fuck up. Sure it's commentator dependent but it adds to spice the roster up.
>>534319089Make it YOU ARE DOOMED and give him a MF Doom goalhorn
>>534319261It adds some flavor for the roster. It's entirely without detriment when everyone already knows the character.
>>534317282I genuinely don't get why this is a big deal for people. Like how FB smacked /vrpg/ for having their gold forward named Dagoth Ur then once he got his current name it was perfectly A-OK.
>>534321679It's about presentation. If the best representation you have for a meme/character on the board is just their name, they better have a strong personality (model, goalhorn adds to this) to make up for it. There's a fine line here. Plus having only character names is dull so it should be rare.
In /vrpg/'s case, I thought Dagoth was fine because he was the only one with his name and his goalhorn really did a lot already. That's just nitpicking at that point.
>>534322430How does changing Dagoth Ur to How Can You Kill A God? make him more interesting in the slightest? I'm not sure if this is seekrit club autism or what, but if you think changing from a name to a reference to said name is intriguing you're retarded
Crimson will commentate a match and use character names even for players that have a different name.
>>534322776I was literally agreeing with you, retard. Dagoth was fine as Dagoth Ur. It's all dependent on the character and the team.
>>534322430I do like characters being named after board memes, like how Bane is called For You or Nanoha Befriending. But if the suggested alternative is just altering the character's name or naming them after a quote, then it frankly changes nothing, especially because most streamers/commentators will fall back to referring said players by their actual names.
>>5343229201. Not the anon you replied to, retard
2. It's called using an example, retard
>>534320378Thanks. I like your cunny shirt.
>>534322962except no one knows who the fuck "nanoha" is
The next Rigdio update should allow you to automatically set up a ruse horn so that it starts playing from wherever the other team's standard goalhorn is currently paused before correcting.
>>534323391It was among the most popular anime on /a/ when it aired, but that was before most of the zoomers that make up modern 4chan were born so you'd be right.
>>534323032Then READ nigga. People already explained why earlier.
>>534320639 >>534321206
>>534313439>you'll see some more momentum to return to PES21.There already is momentum behind PES 21. 21 is leading in the first past the post votes. 21 has more combined first and second preference votes than any other PES. Just a certain dozen or so people are extremely raped by 21 and artificially downvoted it because last time they got raped or they only remember VGL 19. But that isn't even 21, formation bans are dumb and retarded no matter what PES they are are on, VGL 22 was dogshit as well.
>>534320378death
though who would support nuplaystation anymore
>why do anything when commentator
So true! That's why I made my entire roster gay furry shit because that's all suule ever talks about anyway!
>>534324078this except I made my entire roster blacked shit because that's all /4ccg/ ever talks about (/zzz/bro btw)
>>534324216/gif/ is never going to play again
>>534323898>Why does it make it more interesting?>Because it adds some flavor and spices it upAre you braindead? The easy line thing I guess is a fair point, but how often does that actually happen and is that worth the risk of commentators and fans having no clue who some dude is?
>>534324216except it's only /zzz/tards that talk about that
Who are the real /zzz/bros?
>>534324420>risk of commentators and fans having no clue who some dude is???? if someone doesn't recognize a player by their portrait and/or model then they're not going to recognize them by their government name either
>>534324078Suule isnโt actually a bad commentator other than the fact he canโt speak English. I think he does a good job of familiarizing himself with memes of different boards and 4cc-core and his personal digressions are usually /sci/ shit which I donโt mind so much.
Of course, on the other hand he canโt speak English, so
>>534325049We need a /tv/ edit of ESL king.
>>534324420I was a newfag not too long ago, and I didn't understand all the references on /myteam/. I either paid attention and learned, aka lurked moar, or looked it up on the wiki. Newfags don't need spoonfed.
Where's the wrasslin' card?
UUUUUUU where souuuuu UUUUUUUU soulings what will we do without sou UUUUUU
where wrestling or garbage
>>534325438the /egg/ managers draws pics like THAT!?
>>534324216>>534324456Unironic /zzz/bro here. This thread talks about /zzz/ loving cuckshit way, way more than /zzz/ talks about cuckshit
>>534323906People don't like any of the patches, and using stat autism to fix PES21 is more or less unproven until the VTL does it.
>>534324363Everything good on /gif/, with the possible exception of rekt/streamer rekt stuff, has long since migrated to /wsg/
>>534325954hold on we have to hotfix it we forgot to fix something
There are three types of players.
1. Characters/people who make a roster based on who they are. These players donโt need meme names. An example is Hitler on /pol/.
2. Characters that made a team because a particular meme involving them is really popular. These players names should reflect the meme. An example is No Way Fag on /v/
3. Memes that made a roster without being associated with anyone in particular so a character has been chosen to be the model. Blowjob Face on /h/ is an example.
>>534325954For once it doesn't have diaper or tranny colors
>>534326173catalogue every player from this cup to prove your theorem.
desu I like when shit is nearly indecipherable like /lit/ or /his/
>>534326949Esoteric rosters are always better than just [character name], that's why teams like /ss13g/ are still remember to this day.
>>534326949uncultured retard
>>534327303cool ad-hominem, you're very smart
Why are 21 rape victims so fragile they piss and shit themselves to beg people to vote for 17 as soon as 21 goes just one vote ahead.
I don't know anything about pes versions, I just vote randomly whenever a poll gets posted
>>534327275Other than the Clown do people remember /ss13g/ players?
>>534327898The chicken, shitcurity, Ian and whatever OH SHIT IS LOOSE was supposed to be.
>>534328064oh shit its loose is the singulo
>>534327459He is right. Most /his/ players make sense if you have basic education
>>534328267/his/ is basically r/historymemes
Itโs fine to have one or two players that are just the name. Messi is just Messi, itโs fine and itโs a classic because heโs been Messi since 2011. And then Ronaldo isnโt Ronaldo heโs TSSUUUUUUUUUUUUUU. Good balance is something like that.
r/PES17 is downvoooooting again
>>534327275For me it was the reason they used Cuban Pete as a goal horn for a player
21fags are the jews of the 4CC community.
>>534328657said for another 5 upvotes on the r/PES17 subreddit
21fags genuinely believe that voting 21 last is cheating. Hilarious stuff.
>>534314860You misunderstand anon, I hope TMA proves me wrong, patch autism is tiring and while I think it is an underutilized avenue I don't really want to go as in depth as I did during the 21 days, that took legitimately thousands of hours out of my life just to have people assmad at me 3 years later when I legitimately thought i was doing what I could for the cup's best interest. I'd rather teach someone to use dt18 or do patches that are way easier and don't uproot the whole game like 21 (Like 19 LN2 or 16 used by VTL). I just want to have fun, I don't have skin in the game. If I still talk about it it's because I don't think it deserves the reputation, its decently powerful, it's not that hard to make a patch and it can genuinely breathe some fresh air into a game.
if 21fags are so mad and seething, why isn't there such a strong correlation between votes for 21 and votes against 17 like there is with votes for 17 and against 21
>>534325954>5-3There it is
its obvious 17 is being botted rather than organically supported because every time 17 gets a first choice vote it's nearly always at the same time as 21 getting another last place vote
Is this the most raped thread of this cup?
>>534326261Literally the last 2 logos weren't like that, that was just vtl6.
>>534329957Come here faggot
>>534328267I hadn't heard of most of the things on /his/ until I saw them play.
I don't quite know where I'll start with stock 21. I really wish we had more than a handful of matches from a long time ago when the game was completely new to go by. At least with 18 there was an entire Babby to pick apart.
Marcoz mentions that other people have tried this and that with the stats autism and I would like to know how and why they failed in more detail so I can avoid treading the same path.
>>534329768how the fuck is it schizo when it's been happening constantly after the first four or five hours of the poll opening and 21 rape victims realising they're going to lose if they don't brigade the poll, there wasn't a huge surge of 21 last ranked votes until 5 or 8 hours after it started yet there's not the same number as votes for 17, not even 17fags at this point, they don't even want 17 they just got raped by 21 in vgl 19 and vgl 18 so they furiously downvote it
>>534330330Hence why you're an uncultured retard
>you did bad on 21 so you want 17
Under that argument people that want 21 has been eating shit since we dropped it. But they are just trash managers like sgbong.
17fags are coping the hardest because they don't even like 17 or want 17, they just got raped so hard by 21 in the autumn of 22 they get ptsd over it
I've decided that the 21schizo is Mercbrush because the schizo starts posting in bong hours and Mercbrush is both a bong manager and wants 21.
>>534330667>knowing random shit that happened in random countries 100s of years ago is culture, actually
>>534330363In depth stats autism I don't think got tried but if you look at 21's problems a good chunk of it is positioning: you have these transitions where team in possession sends two guys at most even with a 343 and team OOP has 10 man walls of fuck you you're not getting through ever and they only ever get broken by a 99 power move which is either track back lmao goal or a spin to win. No variety, no fun, no lang ball, it's really drab. With dt18 you can fuck with the EXACT values you need to change this, specifically in basePosition under constant_team. You have no idea how long I spent fine tuning this, too high and you have no MFs in defence making it a goal fest, too low and it kills a bunch of play styles.
A lot of patches that were close to stock were tried too (see: TTC), it was just forgotten how often tests were running I guess.
>>534331014I'll buy into this theory until proven otherwise
>>534328878>that took legitimately thousands of hours out of my life just to have people assmad at me 3 years later when I legitimately thought i was doing what I could for the cup's best interestThat's why people who seriously want to improve the cup work on aesthetics or on aes-related tooling instead. The chance of ending up with something which people in general will like when dealing with tactics-related stuff is astronomically low.
Letโs think for a minute who the biggest rape victims to 21 are
>/mlp/ and their fans who had the worst form their history on 21
>gio who was so mindbroken by 21 in vgl 19 he ragequit /forza/ and killed the team
>limbab who has been bandwagoning the 21 rape victims cause despite being a newfag not even being around during the 21 era
>DEN who seems raped by it and is bad on any PES
>Ramen, who is fragile dribbling retard full of bad takes on just about any issue imaginable
And youโre really on the same side as them?
>>534332589trvke, these are probably the same people brigading the poll
>>534332550Yeah I know, I used to do aes requests too before the fox migration. These days I prefer f4cc
>>534331941That OOP defensive clumping is definitely something I've been thinking about for a long time. There's a lot of defensive stats in 21 you could mess with. The way they did it for 18 was DefProw (slower response times for defensive actions) and ExplosivePower (acceleration).I don't think it'll be that simple at all, but I just wonder what's going on there to make the defense "work".
>>534332798But why bother when you have a literal floating point value that says 'CHANGE THIS TO FIX IT"? I can even tell you what it is: minDistMFDF_strategy_defensive, minus the stratagy_defensive bit for in possession.
I for one think we need to bring back patch autism
>>534333502>But why bother when you have a literal floating point value that says 'CHANGE THIS TO FIX IT"?Nigger if it was that easy we wouldn't have had 400 different patches claiming to fix shit and then breaking more than they fixed.
>>534333884What is patch autism
>>534334115something that unironically nearly killed the cup, it should never happen again
>>534334249gio says that's a gross overestimation, and you're a retard
>>534333502not sure if having my DMF in the attacking third is fixing it
>>534334876Not sacked, just demoted to non-medal.
>>534333958Because it was a learning process dude, I did not know what strategy_defensive meant, I did not know 100% what a bunch of stuff did until a ton of time spent watching it play. Partially I made it harder for myself by going chaos mode and changing a ton of stuff when I should have been more methodical, but still, I have the know how now and I'm willing to share
>>534335839offtopiccord likes to make up lies and post them on /4ccg/ sometimes
>>534332589I made final day on 21 and still voted it last. Stay mad.
>>534334645>gio sayslmao, same guy who is still right now shilling 18 in the โcord despite it taking the hardest and clearest L of every single version of PES in the poll
>>534336897You realize the amount of work he's done for the cup, right?
>>534337109He would have banned permanently years ago if he wasnโt a code monkey, no one else has deliberately killed more teams or caused more problems for individual teams, he should have been permanently banned from vgl for what he did to /forza/ because it was no different from blinky and /dng/ or /ddlc/, not to mention trying to dox people or getting thrown out of other teams from shilling them utter trash tactics then leaking their nightlies or testing. probably one of the most toxic people around the cup and yet people keep falling for it again
>>534334876With the medals changing around to this
>Do it for Her (Gold)>Every Girl Best Girl (Gold)>No Lewding (Silver)>Happy Birthday (Silver)I just hope they never use Honkers again for happy birthday
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>>534325438I am , once again, asking for your wrestling support
>>534338075They got memegross raiding their poll, sad honestly.
>>534334876:O
im so shocked
>>534337895the reaper meme but the hallway is ten doors long
>>534338075>the og moeThey're demoting Konata?
>>534337895Genuinely don't understand how VGLco didn't ban him after /forza/. He doesn't even do anything for the VGL.
>>534314626I wonder if he'll pick up on the fact the new gpt released this week is called gpt-oss.
>>534339618Exclusivity contract with /tf2g/
>>534339967They haven't banned tma, what makes you think they'd ban gio?
I am in the vglel as a manager and I am not voting. Just pick whatever, none of the PES choice is going to make everyone happy. Same applies for the 4cc.
>>534340187>my work here is doneYou know what? No one can beat that
If VGL goes to PES16, they should down patch to 1.03 which when ran in the 4cc had the lowest GPM of any PES16 cup/league/invitational at 4.47
/vg/ management has revealed that Konata will be their new gold captain
/vg/ management has revealed that Rabi will be their new gold captain
>>534341713Better than Git Gud.
/vg/ management has revealed that I am /vg/ management
>>534341897I made this post.
/vg/ management has revealed there will be a frotting session this weekend
/vg/ management has revealed that they are all retiring effective immediately, and /vg/ will be helmed by the most recent winner of each vgl.
>>534342132VGLco has subsequently banned all 4cc managers from managing VGL teams in order to prevent conflicts of interest
>>534342132This would unironically be an upgrade
>>534342132Congratulations Kizzy and ClingingMars on your promotion.
>>534342528it might've been an upgrade this last time, if you ignore that /vrg/ was the equivalent of a VGL yo-yo for 5 years, but the previous VGL winners before that have been
>already 4cc manager>fetus-tier>fetus-tier>already 4cc manager>already 4cc manager>already /vg/ manager>already 4cc manager>already 4cc manager
>>534325954Why is /vt/ allergic to decent looking logos
>>534325954this is supposed to be a logo? looks like the steam pfp of some edgy teenager
>>534325954it looks alright honestly, they got away from jarring neon blues and aids purples
>>534330783I want 21 and I have done well on 17 and 19.
>>534327459Nice fallacy fallacy.
>>534343762>>534343983This is the logo of the host.
>>534340187because gio probably has dirt on them or would dox members of vglco like 5-6 years back he was trying to dox QD and other /admin/ members dragging up their private drawfagging blogs or furaffinity and accounts and pretending it was all just le ebin shitpost joke when he got called out on it for being a piece of shit
where wrestling
or i guess just a supercard on friday now
>>534345392why do you lie
