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/sthg/ #8513 - Cuddles With Sonic Edition

==NEWS==
>TailsTube #12 - Life Hacks
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>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Animation Teaser
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>Sonic Racing - Cross the Worlds - (Opening ver.) - Performed by James Bourne of Busted
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>New card game Sonic Blitz released download here.
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>Sonic Rumble Global Launch Delayed
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>Paramount Developing Sonic Movie Spin-Offs
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>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 will be released on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

==Comics Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #81 - 03 September 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary Special - 27 August 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 04 Mar 2026

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Previous zone: >>534041423

Just in time.

Opinions on Sonadow?

>>534091986
It's hot

Have a lovely tuesday, /sthg/!

>>534091986
Sonadow is bad but Sonails is worse and these guys are braindead for believing otherwise.

Why do they keep making idw plushies of dead villains

>>534091986

>>534091975
Fuck Tails, burn him alive

>>534092171
Where's Sonic bulge?

>>534092109
There are no lovely days, just days that are slightly less bad than the others.

>>534091986
Blazamy is like the opposite of Silvaze now that I think about it. It shows up solely in the Olympic Titles (and Sonic Runners I guess), it gets its own quiet fandom and then it minds its own business instead of insisting that the ship always be forced.

>>534092190
Whoops, sorry guys, forgot my name

>>534091986
Amy shadow is the worst ship overall when it comes to all possible ships

>>534092242
all over ur face

>>534092524
good thing it wasn’t one of the ones listed or the subject of his post

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSSxjAmTn/

I feel like yall should see this

>>534092578
damn right

>>534092578

>>534092331
I mean that's pretty much everyday for me too, but I just try to manifest a better day with a positive attitude. Even if a simple text saying that you hope you have a nice day makes someone at least 10% happier, then I am happy

They whitewashed her...

>>534092674
Too bad they had to cut off the bottom half

Sonic the Hedgehog, Shadow the Edgehog, and Silver the Faghog.

>>534092109
I hope your Tuesday goes well too, anon, thank you

Here’s a Charmy

Sexver

>>534092831
Right? But for soft core it’s pretty good ain’t it?

>>534092848
>Shadow the Edgehog
https://files.catbox.moe/2f7rw3.jpg

>>534093217
Based

>>534092342
Silvaze shippers have the added disadvantage that not only do they constantly try to force it, but because of this, even if it’s included organically or semi-organically, people will still call it forced.

>>534091986
>posted it again award
You just can't help yourself, can you?

>>534093423
>replied to it again award

>>534093548
>no u

>>534093656
>nuh uh

>haven't beaten my Splash Canyon time yet award

>>534086416
>Where's sparky when you need him?
Trying to work on my project.

I can't be here every hour of the day, you know.

>>534086598
I'm not a demon.

>>534093014
White hedgehogs owe me sex.

>>534094151
do you read fanfics here sparky? Will you read mine?

>Sonic if it was handled by the fanbase

>>534094618
Peak

>>534094618
Slop

>>534094618
That's an improvement

>>534091360
>>534091851
A DSA member who wants to abolish the police is going to be elected as the mayor of New York and you still aren't taking the leftists in your party seriously. Somehow you think history isn't happening because you're learning about it through your phone lol

>>534092158
They need the inevitable Mimic torture videos to get ideas of how to portray him when they show his new life in hell.

>>534094618
I wish

>>534094618
This is why I can never be on the same page as the fanbase
Btw, Ultimate Gemerl > Amy/Tails/Knuxslop

>>534094965
>"wants to abolish the people"
>saying police should focus on real crimes and not have to deal with retarded homeless people like social workers is wanting to abolish them
You're just another fearmongering idiot

>>534094618
Ah hell yeah!

Sonic embodies chaos.
Shadow is Dark Sonic.
-> Shadow embodies the dark side of chaos.

What is the dark side of chaos? Destruction.
>It's Chaos! The God of Destruction!

Therefor: Shadow embodies destruction.

Chaos was sealed in the Master Emerald, to stop him from destroying the world. Chaos needs to be "Controlled".
>Chaos Control

Shadow wears Limiters restraining his power. He was created as a top-secret military weapon that was sealed away. Shadow is a living weapon of mass destruction.

Shadow's Limiter Rings are like shackles. Hand cuffs. He is restrained, bound, by his past and his purpose. Unlike Sonic who is able to run freely, Shadow skates with these same "shackles" on his ankles.

>Purpose
Maria's wish. "Give them a chance to be happy". If Shadow is a weapon, this is the target. This is what he is used for.

Sonic gameplay is often simply "get to the goal". For Sonic, the joy is in the journey. For Shadow, all that matters is getting to the goal by any means necessary.

If Sonic is like a force of nature, Shadow is his dark side. The destruction that he leaves in his wake when he blasts through, carelessly. What he'd be like if he focused solely on reaching the goal without caring for what lies in his way. What would happen if he was restrained, shackled, controlled so that his destructive power could be weaponized.

>you find a sonic character irl strapped to a chair pooking helpless.

>>534094425
Okay. Sure, I guess.

>>534095610
Now Silver

How do snake blobians work?

He's cool, he's hot like a frozen sun
He's young and fast, he's a windy one

Douge

>>534096132
????

>>534094618
Remove the w*men, make Knuckles Green with Master Emerald energy, make Tails White with 9 tails, add another male hedgehog that is Broly. Also they need to be facing off against Perfect Nazo, Infinite Rosé, and Super Neo Metal Sonic. Then it would be perfect.

Soap > Timbs

>>534096810
I'm gonna need a Timbs mod for Sonic Generations real quick

>>534097042
Sorry best you'll get is a Puma mod

>>534095949
Infinite isn't a potential man fans just want him to be because of his design.

>>534094618
If it was up to me
>Give Shadow, Knuckles, and Blaze more spinoffs that utilize the rest of the cast outside of just Sonic and Tails
That's all
Shadow Gens was a nice step but maybe with a better writer next time

>>534097234
This honestly looks good

>>534095474
We already saw this bullshit play out in Minneapolis after the initial Floyd riots. Leftist retards on the city council cut funding for the police and funded nonsense like "Office of Violence Prevention" and then crime increased, because obviously that's what would happen.

>Giving Sonic timbs
>Not Knuckles
One fucking job

So if getting captured and sent to Prison Island was part of Sonic's plan to learn more about Shadow, why did he decide to beat up and flee the nice GUN offices that were already peacefully escorting him there? Why incite a chase that results in millions of dollars of property damage?

>>534097642
Knuckles doesn't work he just sit there's all day doing nothing
Sonic is the one saving the world, he needs the Timbs
Let's just hope Shadow doesn't mug him

>>534095949
If the dark side of chaos is destruction, the light side is creativity. Hope, possibility.

Silver is the "Sonic" of the future. The Bad Future, where the world is at its end. But in spite of that, Silver remains as the last light of hope. Fighting for his dreams of an absolution.

Sonic is defined by speed. He is always on the move. But Silver moves everything else. His psychokinesis could be seen as taking that concept of "speed" and "movement", and projecting it outward. External.

>"To live a life of power, you must have faith that what you believe is right, even if others tell you you're wrong.
>The first thing you must do to live a life of power is to find courage. You must be ready to reach beyond the boundaries of Time itself.
>And to do that, all you need is the will to take that first step...."
This is who Silver is. This is the core aspect of Sonic that Silver embodies, this is where the "Light" comes from.

Because of his circumstance, he doesn't have Sonic's life of endless adventure. He doesn't have Sonic's wisdom. He can't afford to be laidback and aloof, he can't afford not to care. So, he cares a lot. He cares too much. Sonic hates evil in all forms, but for Silver, it's a never ending war. If you're a threat to the future, if your actions condemn us all, then you're gonna have a bad time.

Sonic's peaceful world of blue skies and smiling face, is the fleeting fantasy Silver fights to preserve. And if the light side of chaos is creativity, then Silver's the one who will make that fantasy into reality. As long as Silver is around, the sun will rise again tomorrow.

After all, the sun is our source of light. The sun, "Sol". Blaze. That's why Silver and Blaze's partnership is so important. The world was ravaged by Iblis' flames, which is the raw power of Solaris. But the true Solaris wasn't the Flames of Disaster, but the Flame of Hope. That "Flame" is Blaze, and that's what gave Silver hope even if Blaze couldn't see it herself.

>>534097310
>Blaze Spinoff
Finally a game that breaks Rise of Lyric's record as the lowest selling Sonic game

>>534097656
It wasn't part of his plan. He didn't even know about Shadow when they came and arrested him

>>534097656
Because he's the wind.

>Watch Sonic X
>It's terrible
>Every time it adapts the games it makes it worse
>It's even somehow less visually interesting than the games from 2000
>Everyone hypes it up as the greatest Sonic cartoon for no real reason

>>534097752
Sonic doesn’t work he just runs around and/or sleeps

>>534097775
BOOM

>>534098043
>It's even somehow less visually interesting than the games from 2000
bro it's how I figured out that I wanted to fuck Sonic the Hedgehog.

>>534098043
>Every time it adapts the games it makes it worse
The Adventure 2 adaptation is better than the game.

>>534097656
>So if getting captured and sent to Prison Island was part of Sonic's plan to learn more about Shadow, why did he decide to beat up and flee the nice GUN offices that were already peacefully escorting him there? Why incite a chase that results in millions of dollars of property damage?
The thing is the whole idea that Sonic let them capture him doesn't actually fit in the game's plot where he blatantly gets mad and tries to escape. It sounds like a last minute addition to make Sonic sound cooler.

>>534098165
BOOM

>>534098191
Rush Badventure which went all in on Blaze and her world flopped.

>>534098272
>The Adventure 2 adaptation is better than the game.
Shut the fuck up retard

>>534098191
Yeah because it was still a SONIC game, retard.

>>534097821
But he says to Amy that it was his plan to get captured

>>534098451
>Flop-ACK!

Krack handjob

>>534097774
Now Metal Sonic
huehuehue

>Sonic Rush Adventure sold approximately 114,300 copies in its first release quarter and an additional 234,800 in the subsequent quarter, totaling around 378,300 copies
OOF

>>534098841
That was after he met Shadow after the first boss fight, yeah he let himself get caught then and went to Prison Island
But in the beginning cutscene in the Helicopter he had no clue who Shadow was or why they were arresting him, so he broke out

>>534098965
>No image or source unlike me
How sad, I can do that too
>Sonic The Hedgehog (2006) was one of the most well critically received games of the decade, earning multiple accolades and selling over 7.8 million copies.

>>534098841
He’s trying to play it cool. Like the wind.

>>534099090
https://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_Rush_Adventure#Sales_data

>>534097774
Their '06 dynamic is pretty typical, but how do you explain Silver and Blaze's relationship in stories where they're "equals" like Colors DS and Otherworldy Comedy? It feels like these stories are meant to establish their dynamic but in a longer story the narrative would converge on their '06 dynamic because Silver is necessarily the active one.

>>534098426
Sparky is NOT going to like this...

>>534098975
But then how would he know getting sent to Prison Island would lead him to Shadow; he seemed surprised when Amy mentioned Shadow happened to be in the same location

>>534098887
>AI search result

>>534099269
>Sonic Retro
lmao

Today I learned that JP calls Mephilver "ShiruMefi"

>>534098960
Sonic the Mickey Mouse vs Doctor Walt "Eggman" Disney.

Eggmanland = Disneyland

Mickey is Disney's mascot. The original Cartoon Mascot embodying wonder and mischievousness. Sonic is the cooler version of the original spirit of Mickey before he was sanded down into a sanitized corporate mascot. That "corporatization"... An empty shell of this iconic symbol, meant to lure you in and sell you something, to control you.

That is Metal Sonic. Doctor Eggman, in his attempt to destroy Sonic on the ideological level, has created his own "perfected" version of Sonic the Hedgehog, perverting the ideals Sonic embodies by removing the very thing that defines who Sonic is. The moment Metal rebels and takes matters into his own hands, trying desperately to prove himself as "the real Sonic", the SUPERIOR Sonic... Eggman makes sure he can never do that ever again. Practically lobotomized. His "Free Will", gone.

If Shadow is like Sonic bound, restrained and weaponized... Then Metal Sonic is the logical conclusion of that, once you remove the "soul" itself. Shadow has Maria to be his guiding light, his "heart"... But Metal Sonic does not even have that. He is nothing but a cold, empty, unfeeling machine. Deep inside of him is Sonic's life data, but written over it is Eggman's own coding to ensure that Metal remains a docile servant of a weapon, carrying out Eggman's will and ONLY Eggman's will.

Eggman's personal idealized Sonic, the perfect example of what life shall be like in the Eggman Empire.

>>534097575
Made for capturing.

>>534099145
>>534097969
>>534098282
Sonic get incarcerated:
>the "Ultimate Wind-form" Modern Sonic
"Oh no, better sit still and wait for someone to bail me out"
this happens at least twice
>Classic Sonic

Its good to know I was right about this

What was Sonic Team thinking?

Shadow's powerful 3 inches

>>534097656
He didn't know about Shadow yet

Sonic is the wind. If he ends up in jail it's because he wanted to. If Tails gets kidnapped it's because he wanted to. If he's insecure for even 1 second it's because he wants people to think he's insecure but he's not insecure he's the wind he has no limit no weakness no fear no problems his brain is perfect his IQ is perfect Sonic is the ultimate

>>534099971
The Wind

>>534096810
>Japs created Sonic
>White Americans made him popular
>"NIGGAS OWN THIS FRANCHISE!"
Why are they like this?

>>534100338
You know, this should be obviously sarcasm, but after W*ndfags were defending "The earth revolves", I don't even know anymore.

>>534098887
>4 million
Source? That's a lot of copies. If true, it's one of the best selling Sonic games. Almost no one talks about it, so I find it hard to believe.

>>534099450
Silver and Blaze's dynamic is a variant of Sonic and Blaze's own status as opposite equal forces, but much more synergized as a pair.

>but in a longer story the narrative would converge on their '06 dynamic because Silver is necessarily the active one.
They're both active. Blaze's soul is alight with flames, she is innately active and dynamic. But, Blaze is restrained. She is disciplined and strict, as an imperial princess should be. But where she holds herself to that standard, Silver is much more carefree with expressing himself... And also susceptible to all sorts of emotions.

It was Silver who questioned what the point of it all is after beating Iblis, knowing full well Iblis is just gonna rise from its ashes again. It's Silver who questions whether or not killing one person to save the world is even the right thing to do, after Amy stood in his way. But each time, Blaze is the one that calms him down and clears his mind.

That's why I say Blaze is where Silver gets his "Hope". Blaze is the Flame of Hope, and thus the source of Silver's Light. It's what, theoretically at least, allows Silver to be as optimistic as he is no matter what, even though Blaze may fail to recognize it herself. But if you're living in a world ruined by a fire demon, and you're partner is a pyrokinetic just as driven to save the world as you are, that must give you a lot of hope in spite of the circumstance.

>>534099840
Here's a tough one for you
Solaris

You can do Mephiles and Iblis too if you want

>>534098887
Blazefags are Google AI using retards...

God I just want to kiss and hug Tails and maybe brush him and then give him mints and then kiss him again with tongue and then maybe slide my hand up his thigh and

If Sonic is the wind then who is the breeze?

>>534099269
Why does that map say "Plant Paradise" instead of "Plant Kingdom"?

>>534097656
It was a low budget flight, there were neither food nor movies. Besides, he likes running better.

least deranged sonadow fanart

>>534100816
Amy I guess
Tails is the sky

What was the deal with those Blaze lore "hints" in TSR?

>>534100297
>>534099462

>>534068534
I ended up drawing something more akin to Lanolin cosplaying as Rouge on accident. Regardless, I hope you like it

>>534096810
Shadow wore em better

>>534100505
Sonic is so cool

>>534101065 (Me)
Pic of what I'm talking about

>>534101121
You're fucking evil

>drawfaggotry

>>534100765
Chaos Emerald = Sol Emerald
Sonic = Blaze
Chaos = Solaris

That's how I've always looked at it. If Chaos is... Chaos, then "Sol" = Harmony. Everything moving in perfect synergy. Like how the sun is the center of our solar system and our source of daylight. The enemy of Chaos is Order, the enemy of Harmony is Discord. The "Flame of Hope" embodies that. But after the Solaris Project, it was corrupted, creating the black shadow that became Mephiles the Dark... and turning the Flame of Hope into Iblis, the Flames of Disaster.

The raw power of Solaris burning without harmony, without reason. Just burning away at everything in its path till nothing is left. Meanwhile, Mephiles is like the smoke and ash creating dark clouds that completely block out the sun, casting everyone in eternal darkness. The Solaris Project's attempt to control time backfired (literally), turning their Sun God into two demonic entities that craved nothing more than absolute destruction of all time and space. Another example of mankind's hubris. They attempt to control chaos with order through science and industry... Only to cause discord in the natural harmony of the world.

That's why when Solaris was defeated down to its core, all that remained was that original Flame of Hope. In order to prevent everything that transpired, that flame had to be kept out of anyone's hands. So, Elise blew it out. In the new timeline, where they never tried to impose their will on the god they worshiped... Soleanna lives in peace.

>>534101084
boobs...

>>534101065
Prophetic ruins are a cornerstone of the franchise. This is merely an easter eggs. Gabs is a Blaze reincarnation truther and a Rush hater. She indidiously tries to undermine Rush lore. Don't listen to any schizo shit she spews.

>>534101121
We know you work for Sonic Team you son of a faggot stop pretending

>>534101084
Fuuuuuck that’s good

>>534096132
Like Lamia, or Medusa.
They have no legs, only a long tail.

>>534100338
Sonic could do anything by himself, he lets his acquaintances tag along occasionally to make them feel better about themselves but he also doesn’t care about them either.

>>534102853
Sthg why don't you make shonen content to fight back against this uwu shit

>>534097403
Police funding isn't gonna be affected

>>534101748
>Prophetic ruins are a cornerstone of the franchise
Yes, but how do these ancient civilizations in Sonic's world know of Blaze and Iblis, or how are they connected to them? Why was this put in TSR specifically?

>Gabs is a Blaze reincarnation truther
I like Rush, but I guess I'm on her side then. Where can I read her explanation?

>>534097656
Lets play the games next time before we ask stupid shit huh?

>>534102887
Sonic's love is as deep as the sea
>>534103137
Based actually playing the gameschad

Final truthnuke:
Sonic could’ve beaten the Bio-Lizard and Solaris by himself. He also could’ve beaten Metal Overlord by himself.

Sonic games have glitches because reality can't handle the proximity around Sonic

>>534103659
We have actually seen Sonic do just that in Gens 3DS with the Biolizard boss fight.

Bun!

Sonic could beat Superman and Goku in a 1v2.

>>534101661
The Sun representing Order and Harmony is something I'm not used to thinking. But then again, how can you represent harmony and order in a simple way
Chaos being water and liquid is easier to grasp, since water always moves around and has no solid shape
Also Chaos and Solaris are not balanced in powers here, Solaris wins no doubt

>>534103659
>>534103843
The Biolizard isnt a big deal
Metal Overlord was recently beaten by Shadow with Doom Powers and an Emerald, so dunno if Sonic alone would be enough, or if he needs an Emerald or extra boosts beyond that. Super Sonic could definitely solo, that one Metal Overlord fight definitely compromised some scaling
Finalhazard, until it gets a new fight, requires the Super form to fly in space. Whether or not one Super user is enough is a mystery, but the fact that Shadow went all out and almost died for it makes me think Sonic can't do it by himself without maybe dying

>>534104071
Solaris was killed by a teenage girl blowing out a candle.

>>534103137
Hi, RandomFox.

>>534104001
That's not impressive, Supercuck regularly eats shit and gets anally raped while Tardku jobs to Bejita and Frieza Force grunts with guns

>>534104001
Loses to Sun Wukong

>>534103130
I guess Sega is teasing something about Blaze that we'll get to see in the future

>>534104325
Sonic could solo every ‘verse.

>>534104254
Whered that come from? Obsessed and rent free

>>534104496
When? That was 6 years ago now. I remember Iizuka saying Dodonpa was meant to be a "lore character" that would eventually come back. Well, he's back now, but I see no lore.

>>534104461
Sonic solos the Monkey King just like he solos Goku.

>>534104461
Sonic enters the pages of Journey to the West and becomes the true Sun Wukong

>>534102953
That's tranny shit, not uwu shit, and it's not my job to fight the uncool sonic content when sonic team and idw seem happy to make the franchise that way with cutesy shit like nearly everything after 06

>>534104545
>

>>534104752
I was thinking about it with my friend, but the problem is that Sun Wukong was actually a character who developed in standard protagonist fashion.
If Sonic was Sun Wukong, it'd be like the Monkie Kid one, but then that's not Journey to the West

If Tails was violently raped Sonic would get over it

>>534105053
No he wouldn’t

>>534105053
Sonic was the one who did it.

>>534103130
>How do
>Why was
Nobody could possibly know that. Again, probably just an easter egg.

>explanation
There are many variations of this theory, but the basic idea is:
>Blaze was from the future
>Blaze sealed herself and Iblis to "another dimension"; that dimension would become the Sol Dimension or was already the Sol Dimension and Blaze was reincarnated there with the Sol Emeralds due to Iblis' power
>Blaze didn't reappear in the future when the timeline was changed because she was removed from the timeline
The proof for this being that she went Burning as she sealed Iblis, denoting some connection between Blaze, the Sol Emeralds, and Iblis.

Ian Flynn "debunked" this theory and proposed that she had the Sol Emeralds on her the entire time, that the "other dimension" was the Sol Dimension, and that Blaze just went home with Iblis.

>>534103980
The patrician's femOC and best rabbit in the franchise.

>>534105053
Classic Sonic would beat the shit out of the rapist. Modern Sonic would smirk and then leave after saying something inspirational

>>534105315
Nice Knuckles

>>534101661
do Chaos next
and Chao if they mean anything

>>534105450
I’d breed them all.

>>534105053
Can't rape the willing

>>534105720
Blaze...

>>534105342
Anyone who proposes that Blaze had the Sol Emeralds throughout 06 (or other things like "she knew Sonic"), including Ian Flynn, is a retard that doesn't care about 06's story to make wider Sonic lore fit together
>hurr why care about 06
If you don't care about 06 don't be in the conversation
I am not interested in hearing someone put lore together at the cost of compromising either story, be it 06 OR Rush. Even if Rushfags hate me, I don't hate them, which is why I am fine saying "Eggman Nega is from the future but also threatened Blaze and the Sol Dimension even though he isn't from there" to let Rivals peacefully coexist
That's why the ONLY take that has ever been acceptable is Maekawa's, because he actually did try to make both work together even if it didn't pan out perfectly.

>>534105570
The thing about modern Sonic is he would know what to say to inspire Tails to cope properly with his trauma.

>>534105875
And Classic wouldn't? Classic is as much a paragon as Modern is

The SSS trio is like the 3 types of chocolate, normal(Sonic), black(Shadow) and white(Silver), but white chocolate is not chocolate.

Prime is the story of Sonic failing to inspire someone

>>534105934
You have to excuse them. People love giving Classic and Modern Sonic different personalities for some reason

>>534106136
But he didnt fail because Nine came around

>>534106092
The SSS trio is like chocolate but Silver is disgusting American chocolate that tastes like vomit.

>>534094618
Sonic if it was handled by Shueisha

What is the point of IDW besides clickbaiting Archie fans with 'Sonic comic' that's so brand safe and restricted it'll never actually deliver on the storytelling or characters they want to see from Sonic?
Who's the audience?

Can someone tell me what this location is from the last page of idw last issue

>>534106239
No he didn't. Nine is going to die of starvation in a desert because he met Sonic how is that coming around

>>534106330
Did you consider what archie fans want to see from Sonic isnt something that the real Sonic is supposed to do?
Whos the audience? Real actual Sonic fans who didnt waste their time with archie, and kids who never had the chance to get poisoned by archie

>>534105596
Chaos is a mutated Chao, and descended from the Ancients so they are all a collective.

Chaos is basically a being that represents "chaos" itself, and the same would apply to the entire race. The Ancients "created?" the Chaos Emeralds and brought them to Sonic's world, and over time the Ancients devolved into Chao. But one chao in particular made contact with the Master Emerald, and mutated "back?" into a state reminiscent of the Ancients. And so, Chaos became the guardian of the Chao and the Emeralds.

Until the Knuckles Clan showed up and killed all the Chao just to steal the Emeralds. Naturally, Chaos was enraged, so he harnessed the full power of the Emeralds and washed all the Echidnas out. Save for whatever few remained. As a result, Chaos was known as the God of Destruction, and the Emeralds were named after him: "Chaos" Emeralds.

He IS the Chaos itself. He represents the initial idea that "Chaos" needs to be controlled by the "Master" Emerald. "Chaos" needs to be "Mastered". However, that's not true. Chaos' heart was shackled by the hatred and rage he felt for all those years, which fueled his destruction. Same as Shadow. But what truly gives Shadow the ability to use "Chaos Control" is the heart and soul of Maria he carries within him. Because, chaos is power enriched by the heart. The heart is the controller. Chaos does not need to be "mastered" by the Master Emerald, as long as you OPEN YOUR HEART. Trust in others, share positive feelings, etc.

This is the lesson that Sonic embodies, and taught to Chaos personally. Sonic knew that simply sealing Chaos away wasn't gonna solve the problem, so he went straight to the source and freed Chaos from the shackles that bound him inside. Now, Chaos is the peaceful guardian of the Chao he used to be, and went up into the sky with Tikal. Sonic Battle implies Chaos will return in times of crises, but ultimately, the Embodiment of Chaos who controls the Emeralds is Sonic, the one the world truly needs.

>>534106092

>>534106479
No he isn't. Sonic erases him and everyone else from existence before Nine has the chance to get hungry.

>>534106487
But Ian Flynn wrote Sonic more like the wind during Archie than he ever did during IDW's run, anon.
That can't be it.
IDW Sonic is terribly mischaracterized as a servant of power who listens to self-important authority figures such as Lanolin and lives in a world of furry people rather than as a spirit among humanity.

>>534106372
God IDW fucking sucks so hard. Silver and Blaze going shopping together with gay little shopping bags(shipping bags). That's not what these characters do. They should be going on adventures. You wild never seen this trash in the 2000s. These two characters are designed for high level shonen action and here they are going to IHOP.

>>534105342
Oh, I already knew that, I thought there was something about TSR specifically. Well I didn't know about what Ian said, but I usually ignore what Ian says, so it makes sense I didn't know.

>>534105865
Thank you

>>534105781
What?

>>534106092
The SSS trio is like chocolate in the fact that chocolate is the same color as shit

>>534106695
>random moments of sonic being kinda rebellious suddenly invalidate him being a simp for girls and the kingdom for the entire run
Shut up

>>534106695
>The wind during Archie
You mean when he dated a princess who's core character trait was being a responsible hero?
Jesus. IDW must be absolutely worthless.

>>534106596
Are shadowfags this fucking retarded? i mean i get they like the edgy mascot but thinking that they're them while acting like a beta screaming about being an alpha with two neurons only at work is just embarrassing to everyone not just them

>>534105342
>>534105865
>Q:Okay, genuine question: When Blaze "dies" at the end of Silver's route in '06, she actually goes to the Sol Dimension, correct? If so, that means her backstory of being born into her royal family wouldn't make sense, because '06 happens before the Rush games. Was she reborn into that dimension, with fleeting memories of Crisis City that she remembers in Generations? Is the Blaze from '06 a completely different Blaze?
Ian: I can't get too much into it because this is kind of internal stuff that has not been clarified publicly but Sonic Rush comes first, the Blaze of 06 is the Blaze of Rush and she doesn't die, she turns into Burning Blaze and warps back to her own dimension and forgets the events of 06.

>>534106695
For some reason archiefags struggle to understand that Sonally as a concept cancels out the wind entirely. Entirely. I don't mind if you like the comic but let's be honest.

>>534106596
Why have you been spamming this every thread?
It wasn't a cool gotcha when it was first posted, it wasn't when you started spreading your own screenshot around years ago, and its not now
>>534106479
>>534106681
The Shatterverses still exist, Nine is to be left alone in the grim
Sonic didnt stop things like the Chaos Council or save New Yolk. I assume maybe he needs a season 2 to do that. Proper gamenic wouldve done it all in 1

So, now that the dust has settled, did he bullshit this?

>>534106849
lol
lmao
rofl even
Silver and Blaze are doing exactly what Silvazefans want, everyone and everything else be damned

>>534107006
Sonic wasn't a 'simp for the kingdom'.
Sonic was routinely arrested by authority figures and Sally herself was not in good graces of the actual government for much of the comic's run. Sonic routinely prioritized 'the right thing' over the Acorn Monarchy. Something IDWnic would never do (since he kisses the restoration's butt).
>>534107018
Sonic didn't date Sally for the majority of Archie's run. They had an on-again off-again situationship.

>>534107252
If i was Silver i would've killed myself for how much they put me through

>>534107252
You posted this like its not a chapter in a shonen adventure where the world is turned upside down and ends with a Super Sonic vs Super Eggman fight

>>534107238
>The Shatterverses still exist
They're dead

>>534105865
>she knew Sonic
She repeats "blue hedgehog..." in the Iblis Trigger vision scene, at the start of Wave Ocean she says some shit like "Iblis Trigger, blue hedgehog, could it be?", there are matching unused voicelines (for Wave Ocean, presumably) where Blaze and mentions Sonic by name.
>Maekawa's take
How do you know what Maeakwa's "take" was? You're just assuming.
>Rivals
Iizuka is a clown and Eggman Nega was a lazy retcon.
>pic
Nega is simply a psycho and wants to destroy the world.

also this >>534107069

>>534107252
This was an undercover operation
Not exactly the same stuff

>>534107378
I posted it like anyone cared about any of it but Silver and Blaze being cute together in matching outfits

>>534107040
>>534107238
CHADdow is better than fag shitver and gary stu shitnic and you know it.

>>534107268
Shit like this really shows how little Archie "Got" what kind of character Sonic is god fucking damn to think dumb motherfuckers have the gall to say he's the best written Sonic out there to the point a video essay on Youtube caused somebody to get shot

>>534107268
The real Sonic doesnt call himself the Hero of Earth. These panels you're posting arent the gotcha you think they are. Ian was too bogged down by relationshit to ever write a Windnic. And then when he wasnt in Reboot he chose to do Werehog differently than the games which violated Windnic again
Ian has never wrote Windnic until Frontiers and even then he had slip ups with lines like "maybe eggman will be good now"

>>534105865
Silver and Blaze's tanabata parallel doesn't work if they're from the same world. They are specifically the princess and the cow herder not a pair of cow herders.

The shatterverses weren't destroyed. They were separated. The show is poorly written but they wouldn't end a show with Sonic and Shadow basically wiping out an entire multiverse

>>534107568
>>534107593
NTA but i got to ask what should have sonic said here and there, what even makes windnic windnic and why are people so ride or die for em?

The wind is a dork

>>534107238
>The Shatterverses still exist, Nine is to be left alone in the grim
Is that really how it ends? I legitimately thought Sonic just killed everyone to restore the original world, but I wasn't paying attention anymore by that point

>>534107679
>they wouldn't end a show with Sonic and Shadow basically wiping out an entire multiverse
But they did

>>534107268
This isn't Sonic. This is Generator Rex. Sonic doesn't say any of this shit.

>>534105450
I love rabbits so much...

>>534107568
>to the point a video essay on Youtube caused somebody to get shot
What

>>534107438
>muh voice lines
Rush fans would have us believe that 06's story is just sooooo bad that Blaze knew Sonic, had Sol Emeralds, and was gonna kill him rather than admit that that makes no sense and that Rush wasnt supposed to have influence on the story of 06 Blaze
>How do you know what Maeakwa's "take" was? You're just assuming.
Because he tweeted about?
>random Iizuka hate
Yeah I see your agenda so I think I'm down playing with you

>>534107252
>>534106849
Silvaze is going to kill both of them if it hasn't already. Like imagine being a teenage boy and finally getting the Silver game you were asking for and it's just tanabataslop. They're both completely washed.

>>534107854
If you werent paying attention why are you bothering me about it instead of watching the show? Too many faggots here dont consume the content but think they have a right to bitch about it. Youre just like game journo who cant get through a sonic level before giving the game a shitty rating

>>534106849

>>534107268
The only thing Archie has over IDW is playing Sonic up as cool and powerful. His ego is completely misread into boastful arrogance and his relationship with Sally is just page after page of shit Sonic would never say. Even when they weren't dating.

The sad thing is that Sally as a concept COULD actually be used to illustrate Sonic as a character but no. Ian loves this retarded crackship.

>>534107963
>Blaze knew Sonic, had Sol Emeralds, and was gonna kill him
That's in-character for Blaze the Bitch

>>534107679
>they wouldn't end a show with Sonic and Shadow basically wiping out an entire multiverse
Wouldn't be the first time a mainstream cartoon ended with the main character committing genocide

>>534108069
Am I bothering you? Sorry. I watched the whole thing, but the last part was very confusing and full of boring fights that went nowhere. From what I understood they just killed all those worlds, and that's how they "solved" the problem

>Sonic
>Shadow
>Silver
>Blaze
Let's talk about Knuckles without mentioning any one of them

>>534107809
This isn't just about "what should've Sonic said". "What should've Sonic said" is how to fix IDW and maybe Prime. Archie can't be fixed like that, it's like the movies, it's so different and doesn't try to be anything like the games that its not a matter of dialogue swap. But at least movie fans dont pretend their Sonic is like the games'

Can any of you windfags please explain what his character SHOULD be and what archie does wrong, im tired of hearing this back and forth when we don't even know the baseline arguments of either side.

>>534108115
Goku and Gohan going shopping is not the same you fucktard.

>>534107240
Obviously it was a test to see if the Sonics are still loyal to him since the Marios hate his guts.

>>534108241
Penders killed anything Knuckles could have going for him and took away almost all of his girlfriends.

>>534107963
>Blaze knew Sonic, had Sol Emeralds, and was gonna kill him
based
Roger van even showed her perspective as well

So do i read the wiki's blurb on gamenics personality or what

>>534106092
What I like about the SSS trio is that it shows what kind of person Sonic really is by having 2 other similar characters represents the ways Sonic is not but many think Sonic is
Like Silver is more of a traditional heroic figure who fights everyday for a better future while Shadow is more selfish and only does things for his own benefit

>>534108215
The very last part of the series after the Nine fight doesn't have any fighting. It's a huge talking scene as the writers quickly try to clean up the ending to make everything work. That is why they waste time on Sonic telling us "leave Nine alone in the Grim". He wouldnt try bartering if they wouldnt exist. The reformed Prism reforms the original Green Hill/prime world, and Sonic and Shadow go back to where they left off, aka the episode name, "from the top", which leaves off a cliffhanger seemingly related to the Eggmen or a Shatterverse or something
So no, they still exist, its just the story hasnt continued and we dont know if it will. In my opinion it should because Prime had great viewership and I like to see stories complete, even bad ones, and maybe give them an opportunity to write a better Sonic this time

>>534107240
No, it just hasnt come up somewhere where it would be relevant
>>534108290
Read >>534108275 nigga read.

>>534108565
Ian...

>>534108585
Shadow protecting the world is only for his own benefit huh?

Why do women keep trying to make Sonic vulnerable?
I met a fujoshi who says that she likes Sonadow since Sonic gets to be vulnerable with Shadow.
This is stupid since Sonic isn't a vulnerable character. Why would he be upset and mope and cry? It's ridiculously OOC.
The closest the wind gets to insecurity is him being embarrassed about being a werehog around Amy because he takes pride in his appearance.
Sonic isn't a woman.

Thoughts on Surge’s butt?

>>534108702
i just want to know what windfags are arguing for anon so we can have a better point of reference going forward, what is sonic's character to them and why are so they insistent on hanging anyone who disagrees?

>>534108290
I don't like to pick on people for characterization but it's kind of obvious imo.
While Sonic isn't above calling himself a hero, he isn't heroic in the same sense as Archie Sonic. He doesn't care about staying in a specific group to protect the world outside of the comics. In fact, he doesn't have a "friend group" like in the comics. He has a group of close friends but he goes months at a time without seeing them.

The comics make it seem like he is always around the same people. He isn't. They all have their own lives.
Also yes. Sally is a non starter. He wouldn't date her. It could be explained in depth but I genuinely am tired of shipping discourse. Just know that Sonic doesn't care for any of that stuff period.
Sonamyfags have an annoying habit of piggybacking this discussion.


It's not even that Sonic is this obscenely difficult thing to capture. The comics go out of their way NOT to.
Sonic is a guy who likes to run around the world and have fun. In the process of doing that he runs into people who need help. He helps them because he is a good guy. He is not on a life mission to fight evil or stop Eggman.

It's like how Ash Ketchum is just going on an adventure. He isn't actively trying to defeat the evil teams of the world. Timmy Turner is just w kid with fairies. He isn't part of a justice coalition. These are characters who are only heroes when shit hits the fan.

>>534107963
>'06 story is just soooo bad
Yes.

>was gonna kill him
No she wasn't. We don't even see them meet.

>Maekawa tweeted
I've not seen any tweets which confirm Blaze was from the future. He intended to "connect Rush and '06" but that means literally nothing.

also this >>534107654. As a tanabata analog it makes sense that she isn't from the future.

Real talk if you're a Silvazefag this agendaposting is pointless. Everyone else knows their relationship is underdeveloped, forced, complete dogshit and will always resent '06 for ruining both of the characters but it's what Sonic Team wants.

>>534108870
JP purists can't write.
There's a reason all fanfictions are made by fleetwayfags, satamfags, and archiefags.

>Sonic shit
Play more games, autists

>>534108290
Windnic is aloof while Archienic is more of a jock

>>534109123
>

>>534108832
>Why do women keep trying to make Sonic vulnerable?
You mean American women? Also, Evan has never done that
>The closest the wind gets to insecurity is him being embarrassed about being a werehog around Amy because he takes pride in his appearance.
It's more than his appearance. It represented him not being who he was and doing what he could do, which Chip clarified was still under there the whole time.
Which was written by a woman. A Japanese woman.

>>534108585
>a traditional heroic figure who fights everyday for a better future
That’s what many think of Sonic as, but that’s about where the similarities with Silver end
>more selfish and only does things for his own benefit
This isn’t Sonic at all

>>534108807
Shadow protecting the world huh?

>>534108958
>>534109150
Looking it over i don't honestly see why we can't have our cake and eat it too, hell the whole on again off again part of the relationship with sally would make even more sense if sonic is traveling all the time.

>>534108591
Thank you. You seem to be the only person who's able to explain the ending of that show

>>534109123
No I’m good

People think silvaze is a battle couple when the reality is the only time they were like that was in 06. Both see more action separately than when together because they need to be in-sync at all times to sell tanabata to the shippers. If you want to cry about them not doing action then you need to destroy the core issue which is the ship itself.

>>534109423
Sonally doesn't work bro the only reason I don't want to explain it is because I don't want to give Sonamyfags the time of day.

It's literally just as OOC as Sonic dating Knuckles.

>>534108591
What I don’t get is if up there was a way for the prism to bring back green hill and keep the shatterverses intact, why was that not just the plan the whole time?

>>534109561
JP TSR, Colors DS, Otherworld Comedy. I'm not even a Silvaze shipper but those are the best depictions of their relationship.

>>534109561
But do you care for the Godfather?

>>534109561
How can you blame them when this is a series problem? What did you expect them to do in TSR? Not race?
In idw they were battling sometimes. Sometimes they shop

>>534109569
It could thought, it's just neither sides of the isle wanna make concessions so we just stay in gridlock shitflinging at one another

>>534109423
If you want to discuss the difference between Game Sonic and Archie Sonic. Game Sonic wouldn't pair up with anyone. His character is destructive to the opposites attract concept. He also would be a god awful boyfriend.

>>534109719
Nine wasn't going to be reasoned with. He felt bringing back the old world would erase him and he wanted to start a clean slate in the Grim. Only until Primenic can open Nine's heart did restoration finally become an option

>>534109895
Wait, it was NEVER the case that bringing everyone back would kill Nine? Nine just thought it would... for some reason?

>>534109806
Sonic and Sally is like trying to pair Goku with Lois Lane

>>534109895
But wasn’t Nine the one who said at the end that both worlds would be fine? Why would he know that then but not before?

>>534109806
Damn it's like one side played videogames that drill into your head that the character is an uncompromising force of nature

I hate explaining windkino to Sonallyfags because the first time I explained it clearly to someone I ruined his otp and it makes me feel shitty. Let them be delusional.

the silvazefags are coming for silver's balls

>>534110182
>>534110096
Like I said Nine wasn't gonna be reasoned with at that point. When his heart was opened he finally checked his computer or whatever and found out he could siphon Sonic's energy to restore his world, which was a sacrifice Sonic almost died for to let everyone live

>>534108290
The shortest possible explanation is that the difference between Archie and game Sonic is more extreme than the difference between Japanese and Hollywood Goku.

>>534110116
>>534110290
Look i hate to break it to you but the truth is it isn't just windnic's sandbox only anymore, sega wants brand synergy and that's inevitably gonna include some elements of westnic.

>>534110795
Oh I agree. You misunderstand me. I am talking about current Sonic vs Archie Sonic. Sonic having the capacity for these things has gotten worse over time.

>>534110669
Alright then. That's very weirdly complicated. At least I understand what the story is now.

SEX WITH LANOLIN

>>534108241
Who's a better ship for Trip; Knuckles, Mighty or Fang?

>>534110795
>sega wants brand synergy
>iizuka has gone on record saying the movies are different so theyre the only thing not part of the unification
Hey news flash, "brand synergy" means DO IT LIKE THE GAMES. it means when they say idw and prime are canon, we expect them to be LIKE THE GAMES. I dont expect archie fans to be fed because their series died.

>>534110813
What is the appeal of gary stu shitnic?

>>534109561
The even more brutal redpill is that Silvaze shippers are just Silveryumes that don't even like the in-sync or mentor-student dynamic, they want the Sonaze or Sonelise dynamic where Blaze is shy and Sonic breaks her out of her shell with non-agressive flirting, but they find Silver more attractive and Silvaze is canon so they change it to suit their tastes.

This franchise is carried by headcanon because of how poor the writing quality is

>>534110973
Anon she's going to leglock you and make you take responsibility.

>>534110795
Anon Sally and Gamenic only became more incompatible as the games changed

>>534111118
Why did you ruin the filename of the original pic

>>534111136
>the even more brutal redpill is [shit i made up based on cherrypicked fanart]

CORRECTION FOR TANGLE

Can i at least ask why you people are so hostile about it? whenever someone brings up archie you all jump out and shout "NONCANON" at the top of your lungs. most of the times i've seen windpilled people their ranting about how windnic is the real sonic even when no one disagreed. it's hard to have any other discussion beyond windnic here.

>>534110973
welshman...

>>534111118
>>534110362
We get it bro youre trying to push an agenda shitpost. No ones biting we dont feel like giving (You) attention right now

>>534111327
This discussion is about if Sally would date windnic. Even Ian said she wouldn't lol.
I have no hate for Archie. But pretending it could be swapped so easily is delusional. It's the Dragonball Evolution of Sonic.

>>534111327
People scream “noncanon” at anything they don’t like as a way to discredit it, they don’t actually care that it’s “not canon”

>>534111210
I thought shitnic fags would be at least intelligent enough to understand the pic without spelling it out for them but you're right.
CHADow never lost against SHITnic >>534111118

>>534111327
>gets told people want canon sonic media to actually have canon sonic
>"hurr why cant we include westnic in that too"
>gets btfod
>"hurr why so hostile"
Lemme go ask any other legacy character/franchise why they arent nice to people trying to warp their franchise?

Wind Sonic is outdated as a character and boring after a while. There, I said it.

>>534111568
That means you randomly grew out of it and you're the problem. I didn't, I like him. He doesn't need to change for you.

>>534111327
It's because Archiefags desperately want their content in the games despite hating the games and how incompatible their content is to the games.

>>534111327
>it's hard to have any other discussion beyond windnic here.
GOOD
you people are like if people wanted to keep dragging the Shyamalan movie into ATLA discussion. It's ooc. Ian said it's ooc. sega said it's ooc. People who played the games said it's ooc. Die.
This thread is tame. It's just people telling you that Sally can't function as the girlfriend of canon Sonic. NOBODY can. Stop seething and man up. If it was up to me you wouldn't be allowed to post comic shit here.
>08

You people have been actively crying about "JP purists" for weeks. Is this just the new /sthg/ gimmick? When do we move on to the next one?

>>534111564
I think the key difference is that westnic was trying it's best with what they had and the time and is SOMEWHAT more compatible with gamenic, where as other mainline versions of characters like superman, example being MoS and other 'dark' versions, Miss the point entirely.

>>534111565

>>534111327
Because Archie was what many people considered canon back in the day. Blame the split between SoJ and SoA. There were similar sentiments with the old Sonic manga (which they pulled Amy and Charmy from).

It wasn't until Sonic Adventure that "canon" was cleaned up between East and West.

>>534107238
>Proper gamenic would've done it all in 1
..eh
SA1 is why Modern Sonic got conditional good endings like Prime until the Meta Era

>>534111780
Sure. MCU Spidey is trying the best it can do too between being pulled apart by his two parent companies. Sometimes it gets stuff right.
Doesn't mean I accept him as peak and on par with OG

>>534111376
CHADdow > shitnic
Seethe
>>534111568
based

Are you telling me there's adults who are mentally capable of typing sentences and can't see why "windnic" and Sally Acorn is as nonsensical as Bugs Bunny and Tsunade?

>>534110391
hawt

>>534111786

>>534111823
What are you talking about

>>534111467
I meant in general but i guess.
>>534111692
but i don't hate the games...
>>534111693
i think your confusing two different people for the same guy
>>534111787
It's just so tiring to see any attempts at discussing anything beyond windnic in the games be shot down, can't we talk about anything other related to the games?

>>534111327
Where is the hostility? Some comicfag keeps asking why Sonally can't work. They were given explanations and they don't like them lol.
It's not even like Eva where there's room for interpretation. We have been given the official explanation straight from the horses mouth. Sonic Team and Ian both agree that the character of Sonic from the games is not compatible with Sally.

>>534111136
>>534111279
>cherrypicked
Here's Miijiu art featured on Sonic Channel.

Im thinking of incorporting music into my fanfic. Do people do that? How? Does it work? It feels kinda cringe but it might be a good way to set the tone or the vibe i'm going for, or the music i envision a fight scene too.

>>534112189
People are talking about other things related to the games. That doesn't guarantee it will be pleasant you dumb faggot.

>>534112259
You know Blaze and Elise are intentionally alike right?

>>534112189
I don't care if you talk a bit Archie. But if I see some retard try and push that it reflected the games I will call it out.

You know how I can tell it doesn't reflect the games? Because if you FORCE Archiefags to adhere to the ALREADY INCONSISTENT characterization from the games they suddenly start calling it boring windnic. Because they don't like the character from the games.

>>534112189
Look, I AM open to talking about Archie, but it's pretty apparent nobody in this general really cares about it besides using it as ragebait for shippers like Sonamyfags and JP Purists.

Being a game or comic purist is boring, mix and match your sonics!

>>534111565
>>534111786
>>534112015
Adorable

I don’t understand windfags using the games’ characterization (their view of it even) as gospel when they haven’t earned that respect. The writing of the games has been largely shit throughout the franchise’s history, why are we supposed to bow to them?

>>534112449
>missionary sex is boring. incorporate bdsm deviancy!
mental illness

>>534112575
Name a single piece of Sonic media that's well written and warrants respect.

>>534112575
Hey news flash faggot, it doesnt matter if you think its "good". Its the TRVE BLVE REAL DEAL. Thats all you need to know. You wanna enjoy archie, go in your little corner and do it. Go to the archie sonic online discord server. Go to sonic stadium archie forums. Go to fucking /co/. We wont bother you. But stop coming here and trying to change our way of life like a fucking illegal immigrant

>>534112645
The movies saved the franchise for general audiences AND critics

>>534112645
NTA but the Sonic OVAs come to mind.

>>534112023
In SA1 Sonic couldn't stop Chaos from destroying Station Square leading to a bittersweet but hopeful ending; since SA1, most 3d mainline Sonic games since then usually have conditional good endings that require some sort of sacrifice

This isn't a bad thing, in fact I'd would say it's a major part of what made dark age Modern Sonic so compelling, but it also kind of explains why things like Prime's ending happen

>>534111823
>DX

>>534112575
>>534112439
pic rel
>>534112367
Fair enough, but to me at least it just doesn't seem this general enjoys ANYTHING anymore.
>>534112401
Well as someone who likes both i feel pretty torn.

>>534111565
>>534111786
>>534112015
out of character

>>534112750
We discuss ALL things Sonic here bitch. Go cry to your precious incompetent Sonic Team to make games actually worthy of being at the top of discussion

>>534111786
Blaze X Silver is the dumbest ship. Fucking fag ships are better. Every ship without Silver is better come to think of it.

>>534112778
No, not most. Just some
>SA2
Sure
>Heroes
Nope
>06
Yes
>Unleashed
Sure
>Colors, Gens, Lost World, Forces
Nope
>Frontiers
Almost! Then Final Horizon.

Fuck talking about Sonic. Jazz Jackrabbit is where its at. This guy actually had the sex.

>>534112947
Then continue to get BTFO every time you try and suggest archie should be move from its place beneath our heel.

>>534112587

>>534113137
I don’t even care about Archie. I just hate you uppity faggots who think the shit games are the end all be all for this franchise instead of what’s holding it back

>>534113137
>beneath our heel.
That's another thing i fucking hate about this place, everyone here imagines themselves as this infallible conqueror god when in truth their breaking their keyboards arguing on the internet.

What are Gamefag APPROVED continuities in the franchise?

>>534113237
>i dont care about archie
>"why should WE bow to them"
Great try faggot

>>534112645
SA2 and Movie 3

>>534112398
Yes. I'm saying the fluff of Sonelise is what Silvaze shippers want. They simply don't care about any of their canon interactions outside of IDW ship-pandering which is itself created by Silvaze shippers.

>>534112885
>Fair enough, but to me at least it just doesn't seem this general enjoys ANYTHING anymore.
You're right on the money with that. Most of it is whining how Sonic isn't like it used to be anymore, or that Sonic is changing and they don't like it. I have some sympathy for genuine classic fans since they were the first

>>534113358
He's referring to the general and fandom at large, dumbass.

>>534113358
>WE
>all non retarded windfaggots
Not that hard to comprehend

>>534113237
Sonic is a video game franchise. Do yes, it's "the end all be all for this franchise". You wouldn't have Sonic without the games.

>>534113492
>>534113487
Only archiefags have a problem

>>534113020
Rule 34 and other fan stuff doesn't count. And I'd like to have the source of that statement.

>>534113487
Most of the fandom doesn't even know what Archie is nowadays.

it's funny how every time we have this conversation windnic and westnic fags have a moment of solidarity and recognizing this franchise sucks, but instead of doing anything productive with that realization we just go back to shitflinging.

Truly, we are trapped in Samsara

>>534113002
>Colors, Gens, Lost World
That's Meta Era, that's when ST tried to move away from the pyrrhic victory storytelling established in SA1

Ironically Forces does end like SA1, the ending really emphasizes the need to rebuild after the war, and Mania Sonic "dies"
https://youtu.be/0WCBJoutVRM?si=9EMbkOcqxtz8ku39&t=489

>>534113561
I’m not an archiefag and I have a problem

>>534113493
Yeah yeah the 90s games were cool or whatever. It’s 2025 mf, the games have been a laughingstock for a long time

>>534112575
>>534111327

I'm going to dump all of my opinions here because I try to tolerate Archiefags but sometimes you people annoy the shit out of me.

You want to know the truth?
I would have let Archie continue. Preboot. Complete with Sonally and all the other OOC garbage I hate. Because then Archiefags would still have their Sonic.
You guys hate that the Super Genesis Wave separated Sonic and Sally right? Well me too! I don't want your shitty nonsense anywhere near the games so I wish it just continued and let you have your content.
Besides. Ian Flynn did NOT. I repeat NOT split them up because he has a "lesbian fetish" He didn't split them up because of the super genesis wave.
Even if the Genesis Wave did not happen, Ian would be forced to split them up.
You know why? Because Sega was going to mandate that Archienic start acting like "Windnic" who you guys hate. By characterization alone that would have raped Sonally as a concept 10 ways to Sunday.
https://youtu.be/8Mw77WbLmj8?si=ihAFzZ7p2UJGKz6D&t=551

It's not his fault. It's not Sally's fault. It's not your fault. It's not windfags fault. Game Sonic is not compatible with Sally Acorn.
Then the retarded Archiefags who try to cope (probably not you) by trying to claim that "maybe" game Sonic could date her if you just twist a few things. No. "Game Sonic" was coming at the pairing like a meteor and was going to break it if the SGW didn't happen. You are genuinely lucky we didn't see it. It would have been a travesty worse than Charmy getting brain damage.

I hated Archie. I repeat. Hated it. Even today I can't fucking stand how it changed the game characters. But I try to respect that it is an adaptation. It isn't taking the games from me. People enjoy it and that's fair.
I have warmed up to it. Even shitpost fanfiction like Scribbles showed me that these characters aren't completely worthless when thrown in a more Game-ish setting. I stopped hating ArchieFAGS a long time ago. But expect any hugs

>>534112885
This general exists for general retardation. Enjoyment means not wasting time discussing shit. Archiefags spend time reading archie. IDWfags spend time reading IDW. Gamefags play whatever games they actually like.

Discussion leads to arguments. That's how this shit works. This ain't a fucking hugbox for your mental hang ups.

>>534113773
>the games have been a laughingstock for a long time
And continuities like Archie weren't?

>>534113828
I’m one of the 2 people you replied to and I don’t give a shit about Archie

>>534113846
See above

Feels like most of you only care about shipping

Dont you remember when Belle defeated Zavuk?

>>534114018
I hate shipping so much

>>534113828
*Don't expect hugs.
Stupid character limit

>Scourge, but he's based on being an evil Windnic.
>Gold, but she's based on game-accurate Silver and not Uwuver.
The characters than magically become better.

>>534113595
In the cancelled 3rd game, the story was about Jazz, having married Eva Earlong and sexed like a stereotypical rabbit, having to go save his kids who were kidnapped by that asshole turtle, Devan Shell.

The unfinished game got leaked a long time ago. You can find videos of it easy.

https://youtu.be/6gckYADZp0A?si=4_oeTlrsM2HWc8EF

>>534113828
Me personally? i think both gamenic and archienic are kinda ass characters and a mix of the two would work best, but that's just me. Is it fanfic at that point? yest, but this franchise was built off of the backs of delusional fans.

>>534114167
Correct

>>534114167
>the joker
>blaze but more onee-san focus
riveting

>>534114209
If you fused them together you would either get Fleetway Sonic or OVA Sonic.

>NOOOOOO THE CHARACTERS CHARACTER TRAITS INTERFERE WITH MY OTP
>PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY LIKE THE OFFICIAL CHARACTER HATE WHEN I TRY AND ENFORCE MY SHIP FROM A NON CANON SHITTY TOILETPAPER COMIC WHERE RABBITS GET RAPED
>>534114167
Every character is more interesting if you make the Segasonic characters in-character.

Guess Sega is rejecting DLSS in favor of AMD technology

>>534114209
>and a mix of the two would work best, but that's just me
Please just shut up

>>534114298
>riveting
This, but unironically.

Is this a bad time to claim movie supremacy?

>>534114531
Yeah because the movies rely on fart jokes and vulnerability

I hate the new archiefag playbook

>Try to claim that Archienic was in character
>Get presented with the differences
>Start shitting on the games and claiming that "it's boring windnic"
>Fail to see that the fact that they consider it boring is a sign that yes, the two characters are so different that people who like one wouldn't like it if you tried swapping their traits
Insanity.

>>534114593
shitnic was always weak and vulnerable.

>>534114593
As opposed to the games that are largely shit and inconsistent as fuck? Or the comics that rely even MORE on vulnerability?

>>534114063
Metal Virus was truly the peak of IDW

>>534114773
Modern Sonic Team cannot write Sonic the Hedgehog

>>534114305
>These two being considered some of the more compelling or enjoyable versions of sonic
Fleetwayfags win again
>>534114479
boowomp

Jack's brother, Spaz, giving off some real retard energy here. More than likely has sexed.

You know
Sonic isn't like the Flash
or even Superman
He's like Batman

>>534114531
Movienic >>> W*ndnic
Moviedow >>> Vegetadow
Movieckles >>> Rockles
SA1ails > Movieails >>> Inconsistentails.

>>534113828
I guess that's fair, what sonic do you like the most, anon?

>>534113828
I want to know what sort of black magic Scribblefag used that he's liked by Krack, Duofag, Windfags, and Archiefags. At a default Krack should hate him for popularizing Shadally so much that years after he stopped drawing it it has still overtaken Sonally on our Booru.

>>534115138
In what way?

>>534115241
It's poorly drawn windkino and reminds me of one punch man

>>534114907
>"It doesn't count b-because I'm gay!"
kek

>>534115143
Trvth nvpvlm

>>534115362
He's a knight-errant
Like the Dark Knight

Nips are making fun of Sonic kek
https://youtu.be/nwywrRqJJoc?si=stwUbVnvgmxc_Hrb

>>534115156
I like his portrayal in Riders because it doesn't undercut him but it also doesn't make him completely unstoppable and immune to anger.

>>534115528
>Sonic Genesis
Oh fuck

>>534115143
Facts. The only one that’s even arguable is movienic but windnic is boring and at least the kids like movienic

>>534115552
I like that one too! gosh riders story was so fucking good.

>>534112995
Take that back

>>534115143
I think if movie Sonic acted like windnic people would find the movies boring.
>>534115241
Scribblefag isn't really responsible for that. Zoomers in general don't care for Sonally and Satamfags get chased away by psychotic windfags. This combination of things make the internet a breeding ground for Sally crackships.

>>534115976
No. Silver has zero appeal as a character.

>>534115976
Thank god IDW put a bullet into the back of this ship's head

>>534099269
>Sonic retro
KEKAROOOO

Everyone is forgetting that Sonamyfags have a nasty little habit of pretending to be windfags. You can tell when they do it to.

>>534100453
We Wuz Hedgehogz

>>534116257
Theres different kinds of sonamy and sonamyfags

>>534116257
>shit pretends to be poop

>>534108847
I'd smash it.

>>534108847
Amy should lick it

>>534116563
>Look Mommy, Shit!
>SSSSHHH, the correct term is "Comic OCs" dear....

>>534116090
Well congratulations you shit tastes

>Sonic is a Japanese franch-ACK!

>>534116097
Tf you mean thank god? what god? we have slop dyke shit instead of something meaningful?

>>534116814
That... doesnt change that hes a japanese franchise made in japan anon

>>534116937
That....doesn't change the fact that you typed this in a very homosexual manner
Grow some balls and maybe jerk off to Amy or something, Men don't type like that

>>534116874
You already have something meaningful. It's called Silvaze

>>534116814
I thought Frontiers sold as well as SA2 in japan

>>534116814
Yeah we have so many weebs, woho...

>>534114167
How do you make Eclipse for Gamedow?

Scourge is basically this prechoolslop character
https://youtu.be/Qv9g6KX8dn8?si=Xp2efd8QVJ5ovvVS

>>534117027
The only thing meaningful about Silvaze is rebounds, they have nothing for different reasons so they're stuck together until someone moves on from the pain

>>534117027
>Silvaze
>meaningful
Silver will never have a relation to the Sol Emeralds.

>>534025147
Only because we're shown how they met and saw how Blaze bonded with Cream. Amy and Cream were made to be partners without a story in mind, Cream's intro was with Sonic in Advance 2 (she was devised for Heroes but debut here first) and when we see her again she's already friends with Amy. She was made to be the equivalent to Tails for Amy and that's that.

>>534025314
This is somewhat true, Marine was more friends with Sonic and Tails than Blaze for the most part of Rush Adventure. By the end, it was suppose to be a new beginning for Marine and Blaze but unfortunately we weren't able to see them genuinely form a bond without Sonic and Tails as a buffer in their own adventure. Now we're suppose to believe they're immediately friends similar to Cream and Amy and while we at least we got to see them meet unlike the former duo, their personalities clash and it would've taken time for them to get along.

>>534117263
Nobody have a relation with the Sol emeralds other then Blaze and the chaos emeralds
>but Soni-
Chaos emeralds.

>>534117139
Not you. Never were.
>"But--"
SEGA said "no".
>"Corporate bootlicker!"
That's all you got?

>>534117026
Nice argument anon you got him therw

Le Sigh....
It's not fun baiting you guys anymore, I'm outta here
~Krack

>>534117107
Eclipse is so perfect he doesn't need to be changed. Reflecting a bad Shadow didn't affect him, if you plopped him as is into idw he would work

>>534117545
okay
if you prefer masturbating to ai shadow slop then i won't stop you

>>534117502
Boo!

>>534117502
Nobody has*

>>534115528
He has based taste in Sonic games
https://youtu.be/mSIOKzU7INY?si=63vbboiArLtwA0s8&t=92

>>534116257
What pretending? Amy's ship dynamic with Sonic is built around the wind. You can't be a true fan of "Sonamy" if you don't understand and appreciate the Wind.

The core conflict of the Sonamy dynamic is that Sonic will never be in a relationship because of his freedom. The idea that Sonic would never "LOVE" Amy is entirely wrong, because it's been all but said that he does have those feelings for her. But the point is that he's never gonna actually pursue anything.

It doesn't matter how much Sonic loves you, he values his freedom way more. THAT is the point of the wind in this context. Any framing that he specifically doesn't like Amy or is incapable of those feelings in general is false. The big mistake is assuming that liking someone and wanting a relationship are at all the same thing. They aren't.

>>534114167
Gold is unsalvageable. She only exists to be Silver but better and also female and gay. In other words, she exists solely to fulfill Evan’s lesbian cuckoldry fantasies. Complete dogshit. Utterly irredeemable.

>>534117506
Who are you talking to?

>>534117026
You sussy baka why you avoid the goal post like a dis-ease? hmmmm?

>>534117107
Gold is meant to reflect Uwuver as a character and in the actual story she's inspired by his bravery while he is her hero. He just happens to canonically not be attractive to her because he's "not confident and capable"

Surge is designed entirely around "Redeemnic" and her hatred from him is partially from her programming and partially because he won't let her kill Eggman. The latter part would have to be removed for her to function around Sonic.

Scourge is just an evil Archie Sonic. So just turn him into an evil game Sonic.

Eclipse is not built around Shadow's personality, he's built around Shadow's species. Eclipse's personality wouldn't change much because Reboot Archie Shadow's behavior is close enough. The biggest difference between him and official Shadow is that he works for GUN and is actually close friends (As in they hang out and watch TV together) with Rouge and Omega. Those don't impact Eclipse.

>>534117506
Why do you hate whimsy and jokes, anon?

>bestie

>>534117756
That's what i'm talking about shipfag

>>534117909
>Gold is unsalvageable.
No, watch
>She only exists to be Silver but better
No, she has telepathy, not psychokinesis
>and also female and gay. In other words, she exists solely to fulfill Evan’s lesbian cuckoldry fantasies. Complete dogshit. Utterly irredeemable.
Let's make her straight now. Now no more lesbian, she's good

Which characters do you feel would be racist?
I think
>Sonic would be a jokey type of racist, making fun of stereotypes but he also doesn't mind when you throw it back at him. He has the N word pass but doesn't use it unless he's making fun of Knuckles or Metal Sonic
>Shadow doesn't like the urban youth
>Tails probably has a thing or two to say about Clankets and Wirebacks
>Amy pretends to hate all Humans but she secretly wants to Hatefuck them
>Vector hates Overlanders with a passion

>>534117914
Pre-emptive replies to someone who tries to be a smartass.

>>534117139
She'll be in Blitz.
Question is if they'll use the Spinball incarnations or if they'll acknowledge Archie.

>>534118204
Tails

>>534117941
Bend over and pull your pants down Blaze
>But I'm not
I KNOW it's you. Do it.
NOW.

Who else has a Sonic plush toy that they like to cuddle?

>>534118204
These are all stupid and i dont wanna discuss sonic with an archiefag

>>534117909
>Silver but better
Nigga

>>534118176
Still not convinced. Sell me this concept.

>>534117545
Cool, bye

>Mephiles attacked CHADow from behind with the attack that oneshotted and killed SHITnic
>CHADow dodges it easily
SHITnicbros... What is the meaning of this... How could this happen...

>>534118303
Found the Wireback

>>534116874
You call this meaningful? Silver gushing over a brown shitstain oc that makes his bussy wet? This bitch wouldn't even be up for shipping with Silver had she met anyone else but Silvaze haters take anything thrown their way

>>534118074
I have no sense of humor.
And some people are super insisting that she can work.

>>534118260
Okay, I'll bite: Will Sega make Mobius canonically a separate planet from Earth?

>>534117902
anon do you rally look at most sonamy fanart and think that is done by windfags
If Sonic's entire personality was changed to Archienic except for Amy instead of Sally, Sonamyfags would love it.

>>534118260
The reason Blitz is held up is because they wanted to make a 3d render of spinball sally like they did for Dr Fukurokov and Speedy but clothesless females is not allowed so sega and rovio are deciding what to do and if to make a new outfit

>>534118367
Sonic didn't die
>BUT
He was fine, he went Ghost and told Elise to get the Chaos Emeralds and heal his body with a kiss
Also Shadow is a bitch who canonically lost against Sonic multiple times

>>534118351
You'll just have to wait for my fanfic sorry

Okay but why are windfags still so volatile in general?

>>534118204
Sonic would have a field day in this current irl environment. Tails is racist towards birds

>>534118430
Move over loser, Amy already has a lover

>>534118565
Get raped for years and then youll have something up your ass too

ahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OH MY GOD AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA WHOOOOOOOOO
AAHAHAHHAHAHA
COUGH
AHAHAHAHAH FUCK I THINK MY LUNG IS GOING TO BREAK AHAHAHAHAHAAH

>>534118120
Amyfags will never beat the besties allegations.

>>534118562
Ah shit you just reminded me I forgot about the Amy slit wrists fanfic AGAIN FUCK
Damn it I swear I'll write it tomorrow

>>534118367
Mephiles had to blind Sonic to distract him. Shitdow was lucky Mephiles couldnt do that

Is he right bros?
https://youtu.be/UFAVuv3dydI?si=MYYD2qQPRXicm1Qw

>Third post is a row trying to shill this jap video no one cares about

>>534118389
Silver being an emasculated cuckold in love with a bisexual NEET wolf girl who chooses to get with a negro-coded dyke lemur is actually peak writing.

>I'm Sylvia! For the sake of the future I will punish you!

>>534117348
Something people forget is that Team Rose was a one-off. It was Amy, Cream, and Big coming together out of necessity, not because they're BFFs but because they all had a problem and found each other. It was the least tight team in Heroes.

>>534118130
You hate the Sol Emeralds and their connection to the Chaos Emeralds and therefore Blaze. Cope and seethe.

>>534118943
I see. You are more of a Fadel fan, correct?

>>534118389
Silver being an emasculated cuckold in love with a bisexual NEET wolf girl who chooses to get with a negro-coded dyke lemur instead is actually peak writing.

>>534118389
Nonono, i don't hate Silvaze, i hate stupid concepts, big difference, Silvisper just works well enough because it would makes sense, there's simply something meaningful about traumatized solider softening up to another solider who killed his demons and can kill hers, both having goofy aspects but change to 180 once in battle, actually covers their weak spots and shown 3 times to have duo team ups that they succeeded at perfectly.
You can see their dynamic from outside perspective and that just shows how well they work together

>>534118501
>Sonic [HEADCANON]
>Also Shadow is [HEADCANON]
>>534110362
>>534111118

>>534118260
>Muttski over Antoine
>No Nicole
Just fuck up my life.

Is this latinx serious?
https://youtu.be/rVblDXRyCj0?si=ac4TLWDvxGGR3zUT

Silvisper is good because Silver can tittyfuck her.

>>534119229
>No Nicole
She only had her computer form back then.

>>534119164
Tangle is Italian, like Silver. Whisper is the negro

>>534118810
>Sonic 3 below Sonic 4
nips are retarded

>>534119193
>He can only show non canon shows and anime
Meanwhile, in the GAMES

>>534119010
You know what? fuck Blaze.

>>534118419
They might acknowledge Mt. Mobius as geographically confirmed in relation to the other islands in Origins, or just call it the Veg-O-Fortress to bypass Mobius entirely.

Sonic lore is so cool I like how Shadow is a back arms (alien) and Silver was going to be an alien and cosmo is an alien and the whisps are aliens and the chao are aliens and chaos is an alien and the chaos emeralds are from space (aliens) and were controlled by the anicents (aliens) and created by the god of the ancients (aliens)

Through the Fire and Flames

>>534119286
>2nd place Frontiers
>SA2 and Generations behind
Guys I think we should stop idolizing JP so much

>>534119320

>>534118204
Blaze believes tanuki are inherently mischievous tricksters

>>534119679
Given how the pornsite has made Mobius verboten, they'll just stick to Veg-O-Fortress.

>>534119679
I love that Mt Mobius just straight up looks like SatAM
I genuinely like the aesthetic of Satam. I am of the opinion that it's hard to look at it and see a "Sonic" show but I think it stands on its own as a whole vision.

>>534119908
>TANUKIS could be here

>>534118721
bit late for this

>>534119683
>Silver was going to be an alien
Where is this from?

>>534119762
>BOO!
>YOU SUCK!
>GET OFF THE STAGE!
>SHOW US YOUR TITS!
>WHERE'S MINA!?

>>534119683
I hate that the Chao are aliens

>>534119003
Glad to see this is alive and well:
>>533989925
>>533991495
>>533991863
>>534025147

>>534120104

>>534120060
From his ass

MIIIIIIIIIIIIIINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>534119782
you say that as if the west isn't also dickriding frontiers and shadow gens

>>534120217
>"ALRIGHT GUYS IT'S TIME FOR AN ORIGINAL CLASSIC, THROUGH THE FIRE AND FLAMES! GIVE IT UP FOR MINAAAAA!!!!"
>WOOHOO!
>ALRIGHT!
>SHE'S THE BEST!
>I still wanna see Amy's tits
>I LOVE MINA!

>>534120281
Should get a girlfriend

Canon in truth does not matter in the slightest, lore matters as a reference point and general guideline, but canon is as flexible as rubber

>>534120034
Will Blaze be able to overcome her prejudices towards tanuki in time for Crossworlds

isn't mina flat

>>534120320
Shadow Gens is good
Tho Black Doom is wasted again

>>534120547
>HE is in
Was there ever any doubt? He is to Sonic what Bowser is to Mario heh

>>534120572
Yeah I know it's so hot right?

>>534120534
>Yet I can't be in the games or comics

Fuck off with that nonsense.

Ken Penders basically saved Knuxouge. Remember to thank him.

>>534120435
What if wanna see both their tits?

>>534119632
CHADdow was merciful to SHITnic by not killing him on his birthday

>>534120534
>canon is as flexible as rubber
>posts a calendar that btfos everyone but gamefags

>>534120660
Why artificial
Why cant the suit live, be some organizm or whatever

>>534119229
Muttski has Sonic family ties, he'll be Chucked out.

Putting a fleshlight in my zeena plush

>>534120534
>only has characters from SA2
SA2 Franchise
SA2 Forever

>>534121129
Silver and Blaze

>>534120181
It's fucking retarded.

>introduce chao as fey nature spirits
>bench chao immediately after their games (except Cheese)
>introduce whisps as alien nature spirits
>bring back the whisps despite people not caring for them and having no lore reason
>finally bring back chao after years of fan demand without their core appeal (chao gardens)
>retcon chao to being alien
>now there are two species of alien nature spirits that coexist
>people confuse them

I fucking hate Iizuka.

Boring night tonight.

>>534121262
Nobody confuses them and you just want an excuse to shit on Iizuka for everything when it was Ian's idea to connect them
Its not even some bad decision either

>>534121265
Now draw her being brutally violated by the other one.

>>534121265
Just because its boring doesnt mean we sanction plebbit

>>534121262
Wasn't that Ian's doing because he suggested that the aliens look like Chaos and Sega did it?

>>534120708
she fucks the robot, tails gets no pussy

>>534121262
Hooking up the Aliens to Chao was Ian's idea, not Iizuka. He didn't want to invent another species for some reason.

>>534121389
Sage is the one who does the raping. Bump is too pure and kind.

>>534120628
I think it's a 7/10 game. The OG Gens was better

Reminder that Fleetway was the first continuity to make Chaos an alien.

>>534121262
>bench chao immediately after their games (except Cheese)
This never happened

>bring back the whisps despite people not caring for them
I cared about Wisps, although I don't like the way they're included in Lost World

>retcon chao to being alien
>I fucking hate Iizuka.
That was Ian's idea, if Iizuka did anything it was approving it, assuming it was him who did that

>people confuse them
This never happened either

Sally is straight
Nicole is straight
Lanolin is straight
Whisper is straight
Tangle is probably a lesbian

>>534121265
>>534121552
cute sluts

>>534121389
Why is this guy’s name in all lowercase?

>>534121674
Whisper was the one who was created to be the actual lesbian.

>>534121774
I disagree

>>534121731
he's gay

>>534121674
All made for my 4 inch dick.

>>534121674
>Lanolin is straight
Was this ever in doubt?

>>534121674
Sally is bi
Nicole is Sallysexual
Lanolin is autisticly asexual
Whisper is bi
Tangle is anything that moves

>>534101084
yrev very good

SA1 x SA2

>>534121717

>>534111327
>it's hard to have any other discussion beyond windnic here
Holy shit. Finally. Sounds like sthg is improving.

>>534121929
Mental illness.

>>534122079
Tangle's hero

>>534107196
Not the satam Sally

>>534122031
But i don't WANNA talk about windnic all the time, some times i wanna talk about knuckles, or shadow, or silver, or a different version of sonic.

>>534121717

it is a good thing if the biggest fans of a character actively drown out discussion of ooc portrayals.

>>534122005
i cry laugh everytime i see this pic, sage's face is so fucking funny to me

>>534121717
NOW DRAW THEM FUCKING

>>534122248
but your not drowning them out, your actively hounding and harassing them.

>>534122079
If Sonic is gay or bi he’s going for Tails

>>534121929
In-character

>>534122005
I want to boop their noses

>>534122379
Jokes on you I'm not even a windfag

>>534111467
>about if Sally would date windnic
Sally in preboot was willing to wait 25 years. Ian saying she wouldn't wait is Ian disrespecting the character. Just like how Amy said she'd wait until she's elderly to be with Sonic.
Ian's male feminism makes him think a woman waiting for a man is unacceptable

Sonic: Chili dogs
Tails: Mints
Knuckles: Grapes
Amy: soft serve ice cream
Cream: ....also ice cream?????
Big: fish
Shadow: Black Coffee
Rouge: ???
Silver: Apples
Blaze: ???
Eggman: Fried chicken, or big sandwich

>you go to your bedroom
>you see Sonic laying in your bed
>Sonic looks at you with his signature sideways grin
wwyd

>>534122520
Ask him "what would you do if your son was at home crying all alone on the bedroom floor cuz hes hungry, and the only way to feed him was to, sleep with a man for a little bit of money? and his daddys gone, somewhere smoking rock now in and outta lockdown, i aint got a job now"

>>534121343
>>534121653
>>534121469
I saw a single guy on xwitter confuse them. Hyperbole but still, It's dumb to have two species of floating nature spirits which are both aliens. Hell, it was dumb to drop animal friends and flickies too.

Ancient aliens are retarded. Any additional ancient civilization lore that isn't related to the cast (echnidnas) is retarded. Making everything related to aliens is retarded because it ruins the shintoism of the franchise. Like now it's not "nature vs technology" it's "ancient alien technology vs human technology".

Whatever. I'm done pissing myself off.

>>534122489
>Sally in preboot was willing to wait 25 years
Correction. Light Mobius Sally was. Ian did not like that specific continuity and considered them different characters (Particularly because of Tails and Mina) so he wrote out the possibility that it could be one universe by killing off Locke earlier than his stated death.
This argument could also be flipped onto Satam Sally, since when someone challenged him using her, he then said Sally wouldn't wait for windnic.

You make an interesting point though. Ian is ultimately contradicting his own words.

>>534120878
Eh? But Mina is flat, you don't wanna see that...

>>534122319
"Stupid dumb, busty doe. Who the fuck does she think she is? Walking around with those disgusting mounds of fat. Fucking cow. I'm going to take a nap so I'm not so angry."

>>534122673
The Chaos Emeralds aren't ancient tech. They are natural resources. They were naturally when the ancients brought them. The Ancients are no different to Tails and youre shitting yourself up why?
I dont see why its dumb for Chao to have an interesting origin that contradicts nothing besides you hating on everything

>>534122703
SatAM Sally is too whorish to wait for anyone.

>>534120907
>Acknowledged that he isn't ON EQUAL TERMS with Sonic yet
Yup YUP

Why plebbit spam all of a sudden

>>534121023
>Mimic and Zeena get merch
I'm so happy I only started Archie/liking Mina when the reboot was nigh because I'd be so mad.

>>534122824
She's perfect

>>534122824
[character] is too [completely unrealistic trait] to do [normal thing]

That's actually very Sonic Team of her

People complain about Ian's writing yet they have nothing to show for it
If you haven't written for a comic for twenty years you can't complain. End of discussion

>>534122005
>>534122239
>>534122794
Just like Shadow in 06 with Rouge. Sage canonically is always staring and seething at Bump's boobs.

>>534123017
Bait.

>>534122824
If Sally reappeared some how and was forced to be in-character by Sega the fandom would hate her. Not because of the archie reasons but people would consider her a degradation and objectification of woman. She'd basically be the character coomers think Rouge is. There would be so much seething about how she just happily kisses Tails on the face multiple times a day.

>>534121774
She wasn't created to be a lesbo, her and Tangle being forced together wasn't even in their initial plans. Oh wait
>created by Evan
Right...

>>534122824
She's the wind or a carasol

>>534122794
The solution to this problem is to brutally violate her as revenge.

It's kind of sad that Silver and Blaze had a "world tour" of Sonic's Earth in IDW and it's just an offscreen adventure. That's the kind of thing you'd actually make a story about, like Unleashed. Heck, I would actually like to read about it, and hear them compare it to their homes, and even help people with their problems. Is it crazy that I find that preferable to what IDW actually does?

>>534122673
>a single guy
Alright I believe you then

>It's dumb to have two species of floating nature spirits
They seem distinct enough to me, I never even thought of them as "nature spirits" specifically

>it was dumb to drop animal friends and flickies
They kinda didn't? It just depends on the game. Although I agree that what they did with the small animals in Adventure is weird, specifically with the birds

>Any additional ancient civilization lore that isn't related to the cast (echnidnas) is retarded
No. Sonic had ancient civilizations before Knuckles was even conceptualized. Ancient civilizations and mythological elements were a part of the series before Knuckles.

>Making everything related to aliens is retarded
I agree with this though

it says a lot about Ian that when he was given Sonic's "real" character in the 2010s his first thought was "This is a mascot"

>>534123295

>>534123124
Yeah that's all you can say because you know I'm right lil princess

>>534123437
Where is this from

>>534122380
Bi men have male friends

>>534123487
Then do it. Fuck her. Violently.

You guys remember when Evan unironically made Tails doll a penis monster?

>>534122842
CHADdow is greater than SHITnic. It wouldn't be fair to SHITnic to make SHITnic job to CHADdow on SHITnic's birthday. It was honor and mercy for SHITnic from CHADdow

>>534123017
>Buys food
>Complains it taste like shit
>"You aren't allowed to complain. You aren't a chef. Now PAY ME MORE MONEY"

>>534123315
>I would actually like to read about it
Fag
>hear them compare it to their homes, and even help people with their problems.
Okay, not the worst idea ever but I still wouldnt love it

>>534123729
>Eggman confirms the Phantom Ruby phantoms are AS STRONG as the originals
>Phantom Shadow goes down in A SINGLE HIT
BWAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHA
WHAT A BITCH

>>534123809
Sorry, i forgot crying lesbians is preferable to Silver and Blaze doing shit

>>534123650
Sure, just let me take a quick nap first.

>>534123693
>IDW is full of pedos
What else is new?

>>534123793
You paid for the food you lost your privilege, should've done your research before you bought it

>>534123693
>Evan's the one who did that
why

>>534122515
Shadow should be burritos. Fuck memes.

Genuine autistic question here. If EVERY character MUST adhere to their original core character concept, how is it possible for one to write Sally Acorn and Sonic in the same canon?
Sonic's core character traits counteract Sally's. How would you write around that without changing either of them?

>>534123693
That entire arc felt like a fever dream.

>>534123693
Anon, I see a vagana here, not a penis

>>534124038
>Sonic's core character traits counteract Sally's.
So they're tailor made for interpersonal conflict.

Where is the problem?

>>534123693
That's hot

Hello /sthg/

>>534124083
It's both.

>>534124038
Game Sonic and SatAM Sally wouldn't end up together, that's for sure.

>>534123614
Yeah knuckles

>>534123809
Miserable cunt, what do you really want to read? Shadow jobbing again? crying black people? A fucking dictionary but Sonics face next to it?

>>534124231
Of course, because that involves changing Sonic's character. So how would Sally work?

>>534116814
Sonic Team's own employees, current and former, say it's a Japanese franchise. Because it literally is.

>>534124206
C'mere you!

>>534123315
The two faggots have a tendency to go violent alone, why is there no action in "cool Sonic" comic what so ever? and where the fuck is Knuckles?

>chaos, an ancient god of destruction (kame) who punished the echidna for not living in harmony with nature
>le scary jobber rock
Cool.

>>534122812
The Chaos Emeralds being "from" somewhere is my problem. They're going to explain the emeralds from being from the god of the ancients in the follow-up game. Like the idea that Sonic is some avatar of the chaos emeralds and their connection with nature (earth) is totally fucked by making them from space.

>no different from Tails
How?

>interesting
There is nothing interesting about ancient aliens. They're a black box with no personality or rules that can contain anything. Chao being from aliens is just a piece of pointless trivia. Like why not have Sonic also be from aliens?

Black Arms are far more interesting. The concept that Shadow is the product of a Faustian deal and Gerald pre-empted Black Doom's plans with the Eclipse Canon is cool.

>>534123426
>Sonic had ancient civlizations
From my understanding the ancient civilizations were proto-echidnas? Like they slowly built up the lore until they finalized the concept of Chaos destroying the echnidas.

>>534124206
Hi Tailsbro

>>534124386
Something being made in Japan doesn’t make it inherently Japanese. Am I suddenly African because I was born in Africa?

>>534123860
CHADdow is the only one capable of oneshotting himself. SHITnic cowers in fear of Phantom CHADdow

>>534124038
I mean you can just... Add Sally, but without the romance with Sonic. I know it goes against the original idea of Sally being Sonic's love interest but I don't think it fundamentally changes her character or makes her irrelevant

>>534124538
Yes?

>>534124364
Her interactions with him would be similar to SatAM Sonic's, but just remove some of the OOC traits he had.

>>534124538
Literally yes.

>>534124437
God can you imagine how Nine would react to her?

>>534124028
Black coffee isnt a meme its about his actual character from japan

>>534123693
This design is trying too hard to be scary, not to mention overdesigned too for something as simple as tails doll, like that's why people found him scary in the first place. It loses all the scariness when he is turned into a kaijuu

>>534124538
This is the most retarded post I've read all week.

>>534123315
IDW gave you a taste of what the games have been directly denying you. Comparing it to Unleashed perfectly exemplifies that there is a lot more that can be done but we're given scraps by Sonic Channel and IDW instead of something with a decent budget and effort

>>534124206
Hi! :)

>>534124508
Obviously Knuckles is the first time they fleshed it out, but Westside Island had a similar story and obviously isn't tied to Knuckles. So I like that they introduced other ancient civilizations and ancient legends in later games, that's something the series was always about to begin with, Knuckles is just a consequence of that

The Ancients are boring because their whole shtick "Whoa! They were so smart and advanced! We haven't seen technology like this before!"

>>534124518
I hate how I can tell this artist is a tranny just from how they draw.

I love Tails!

>>534124538
I don't think you can fully separate a piece of art from the context in which it was made

>>534124038
>MUST adhere to their original core character concept, how is it possible for one to write Sally Acorn and Sonic in the same canon? Sonic's core character traits counteract Sally's. How would you write around that without changing either of them?
Well putting aside the fact that Sally shouldnt be main cast like the actual main cast, if Sally were in, she would be like Lanolin if Lanolin had a crush on Sonic. But unlike Amy who wants Sonic as is, its a crush like Elise where she cant actually have him because he wont wait for her

>>534124818
If they were so smart why are they dead

>>534124758
Honey, it's only Tuesday.

>>534124662
You don't actually believe that.

>>534124468
Knuckles is doing his job guarding his Emerald. Is that a problem, fake Knuckles fan?
>>534124508
>bunch of fanfic about the next game to justify his seethe
This game of tag is boring

>>534124860
What if Lanolin had a crush on Sonic?

>>534124820
Just enjoy the art chud

>>534122515
Wiki Zone lists vanilla and chocolate ice cream as Rouge's favorite food in Sonic X, but I don't know if they just pulled it out of their ass.
Cream I guess isn't as particular with her ice cream?
By the way, Knuckles is supposed to like fruits in general.

>>534124989
Anon you do realize that there's a difference between nationality and heritage right? You can't be this retarded.

>>534124809
I always imagined the ancient ruins in Sonic 1 and 2 were leading up to this ancient civilization, the Echidnas. I mean we know they were a warrior tribe that invaded other tribes some I like to believe all those ruins are just ancient echidna stuff

oh banana

Ghosts of the Future's lore makes
Penders's writing (even Lara-Su Chronicles) seem on brand.

Penders did not try to explain Sonic and friends were the result of government run artificial mass breeding programs of refugee human women designed to recreate Project Shadow.

>>534124468
That's 06 Silvaze. There won't be any violence happening. Just wholesome insync vibes

>>534125002
Most females in idw would be better with a crush on Sonic. Tangle already has one and shes good
>surge and lanolin

>>534125158
>By the way, Knuckles is supposed to like fruits in general
One bio compared to Gens and Sonic Channel using grapes mainly. Gens predates the movies

>>534125219
Did Penders come up with the Xorda and gene bombs? Who wrote that into Archie?

>>534125219
What is it with fujos and their complete inability to NOT insert their fetishes into everything?

>>534125198
Sorry, I actually don't understand who is arguing what. I don't think race is the same as nationality or culture.

>>534124736
Coffee came from coffee beans being memed.

/sthg/ - Evan Stanley Psychosexual Analysis General

>>534125219
Penders was anti-nazi. Stanley is pro-nazi.

>>534125410
Someone earlier was arguing that Sonic isn't a Japanese franchise just because it was made in Japan and used nationality as an example but failed because they apparently don't know the difference between nationality and heritage.