Joke MO Edition
>Previous thread: >>534146157>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracyโข. Players wage war on a number of contested planets, each with a different environment, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful operations, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must cooperate to try to liberate the entire galaxy by focusing and combining their efforts as much as possible.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt
>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/
>LOBBY HOSTINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
>MODDINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png
>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1xA_wuSuV6NORqUCt1aZ203raG4HuUJ85btqmn0ld56U/htmlview
>MAJOR NEWSJul 02 Warbond Token https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516339785321679794
Jul 03 XBox release Aug 26 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTs9VDm4KAU
Jul 17 Control Group https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8FKZG2lPBw
>LATEST PATCHESJul 16 1.003.201
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516341688493408284
Aug 05 01.003.202
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516342955916658905
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odst warbond soon retards
For a one-handed support weapon, how would you guys feel about a healing laser beam?
Yall niggas barely dodged the Essex Edition. Don't let it happen again.
>less than 1k helldivers on squids
so how would you fix this faction
>>534245645Halo? More like...GAY-LO
>>534246107You dont. Its fucked. Even if you added a bunch of new squids all the existing issues will still be present. It needs a total overhaul or just quietly left to sit there and rot.
>>534246116>gaystations faggs still mad about xchads joining the fight
>"And now, another helpful tip from General Brash"
>"WHILE YOUR ROBUTT IS AN EFFECTIVE KILLING MACHINE, EVEN THE BEST NEED MAINTENANCE"
>"BY USING SPECIALIZED OILS AND SOPHISTICATED BUG ZAPPERS, IT KEEPS ITS SYSTEMS CALIBRATED AND JOINTS GREASED SO IT CAN KEEP UP THE FIGHT!" *slaps the robutts ass*
>"BRASCH TACTICS! USE 'EM OR DIE TRYING!"
>>534246107squids filter solofags and shitters way too hard so it will never be popular unless you completely lobotomize it and turn it into bugs2.0, which isn't fixing it so much as ruining it
The six xbox players will SINGLEHANDEDLY win us the galactic war.
I just found out shock pods were a thing in a pub. I was in a bots game and kept getting slowed down while trying to reach my EATs to kill enemies shooting at me a mile away from the pod drop area. There is absolutely no way someone could be even slightly familiar with how the game is played and think that was a good idea. Recoilless + EATs + 2 sentries was fun though.
>>534246107Make overseers fun to fight. Leviathans are just dumb and annoying sure but people don't talk about how ridiculous overseers are.
And I don't wanna hear "muh realism" when they can tank direct EAT shots and don't get staggered when getting shot while using a jetpack.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1mj6yzt/i_know_the_epoch_got_a_buff_but_this_is_crazy
>>534246107Introduce some OP ass strategem that hard counters the faction and let the shitters take that every time.
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>>534246107Come get your 2% squid milk
>>534246939Being able to tank direct EAT shots is literally part of their lore. All of that kinetic and explosive energy is distributed and ignored by the frangible, ablative super-materials that their armor is comprised of. Its entire downside is that it works regardless of the size of the munitions, whether its small arms fire or anti-vehicle weapons. Now there is obviously a limit to this capability seeing as how orbital weapons fire can overcome it.
>>534247225why didn't you just post the video here wetard
>>534247296Not gay, but I would suck off a squid cock for their superior genes.
>>534247372https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1mj3ftb/reminder_you_dont_need_to_do_the_mo_helldivers
>>534246558tbf, due to liberation rate scaling, it will just make capturing planets harder while adding nothing. Joel must be masturbating to the thiught of how he can use this to rig all the MOs.
>>534247372Because its bait for people to reply with ">reddit" or something similar like this guy
>>534247279
>>534247485I've been boycotting the MOs for a month now.
>>534247707https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1mipst2/uhmno
>>534247829https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1mig4y/I_only_read_the_titles
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244366153275/76561198833024576
d10 bots, on julheim because ice planets are Coolโข
first time hosting so apologies for any fuckery that may occur
>>534248073https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1mig4y/good_job_nigger
New lobby hoster? time to BULLY
>>534246939The damage sponge faction is absolute ass.
>>534246107scrap the entire hd2 squid faction and replace it with hd1 squids
>>534248145remember to kick and block gucci slippers on sight
>>534246107Theyโre already great. Community is just 200% too gay and filtered by them.
That said, unit variants would be great, and this is from last thread
>> 534205961>>534206793>>534207165>>534207986>>534208894Shameless repost of my fleshblob objective spitball
>>534247434>Chased out of the galaxy by humans>Given 100 years to plot their revenge>Fuck it up bad despite humanity fighting a war on three fronts>"Superior genes"Squids were made to be killed and for us to take their squishy women for ourselves.
>>534246939knowing stun pods are in play and continually being stunned by them is npc behavior
>>534247315Maybe that would make sense if it was a plasma shield / reactive armor which could only take a certain amount of force or if slower projectiles could bypass it like a droideka. There is no reason why their "plates" or whatever die in the same arbitrary amount of shots from a pistol round as a rocket, and that the rocket shouldn't throw them on their ass or kill their unarmored parts with shrapnel, or the fact that they can fly smoothly in all directions during all of that. If it was consistent 500kg also wouldn't penetrate somehow, and the melee weapons would break with one swing or somehow send the helldiver flying backwards.
The weakness of other units in the game actually makes some internal physical sense like legs and joints on bigass enemies, heatsinks on bots, chargers and bile titans bleed to death, bigass wings on the mutalisks and then they crash into each other etc
>>534249686Didn't even know they existed because who uses these warbonds anyways. At first I thought it was someone's EMS mortar shooting me for no reason.
who wants to put money on asspull no. 317
>high command adjusts the MO so that railcannon kills count for everything on the last day
>because patriotism or whatever
>>534238992ggz tards
https://files.catbox.moe/aoerve.mp4
Normally I have a whale of a time with this game, doesnโt matter faction or loadout or anything else. Been my main game for months.
But holy shit the last few operations on Duma Tyr with pubbies has been a fucking shitshow. People fighting bot drops in the middle of nowhere or in bases/colonies that have already been cleared out, or alternatively shutting their brain off when they see any heavy enemy whatsoever
People coming with commandos, autocannons and RRs but taking out less heavies than me, with an epoch, jump pack, 120 and mortar
Taking time to type in chat โJesus this is insaneโ like just shoot the fucking robots
>>534250671>Duma Tyr with pubbies has been a fucking shitshow.Hmm...
>>534250325>There is no reason why their "plates" or whatever die in the same arbitrary amount of shots from a pistol round as a rocket,well.. they don't. they have HP values. the chest plate of an overseer is 150 HP and 2 armour so the peacemaker takes 3 shots to break it.
As for EATs not killing them, it's actually way closer to killing than than you think. Again with the chest armour, it does actually have 20% transfer to main. 2000 damage from the EAT transfers 400 to the main HP, and then the 150 damage secondary explosion hits the main HP directly, leaving the overseer on 50 HP on main. It's not like the EAT hit gets completely 100% absorbed by the chest armour and the overseer is completely fine otherwise.
>>534251126When are we getting squid heavy armor that can absorb a cannon tower to the chest and walk it off
>>534246107I'VE SAID IT BEFORE YOU STUPID NIGGER NOW LET ME SPELL IT OUT
M O R E Z O M B I E S
THE ENGINE CAN FUCKING HANDLE MORE ZOMBIES, EVEN A NIGGER-LIPPED MONKEY CAN CODE AN ENGINE CAPABLE OF HAVING 500+ ENEMIES ON SCREEN IN MODERN DAY
ALL DROPS NOW CONSIST OF 1 FLESHMOB, 80+ ZOMBIES, 2 OVERSEERS
HARVESTERS ARE NOW LESS COMMON FROM DROPS BUT MORE COMMON WANDERING
ZOMBIES ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE
ADD MORE FUCKING CHAFF!!!! PEOPLE PLAY GAMES TO HAVE KILL COUNT GO UP! WHAT DO YOU NIGGER-LIPPED MONKEY-LIPPED RETARDED SWEDES NOT UNDERSTAND!? I WANT MY KILL COUNTER TO SAY 300 NOT FUCKING 20. I WANT TO RUN OVER DOZENS OF ZOMBIES IN MY CAR. I DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH OVERSEERS.
GENUINELY GROW A FUCKING BRAIN SWEDEN. YOU DESERVE TO BE FIREBOMBED AND RAPED BY IMMIGRANTS FOR YOUR INABILITY TO HANDLE BABY'S FIRST ENEMY FACTION IN YOUR OWN GAME YOU SPENT EIGHT YEARS MAKING. EIGHT FUCKING YEARS YOU COULD'VE SPENT LEARNING AN ACTUAL SKILL LIKE CARPENTRY INSTEAD OF DISAPPOINTING MILLIONS OF GAMERS.
FUCK SWEDEN, FUCK NIGGERS IN SWEDEN, PRAY THAT NIGGERS FUCK SWEDISH PEOPLE, PRAY THAT ALEXUS AND JOEL DIE TERRIBLE DEATHS, PRAY THAT THEIR BLOODLINE ENDS.
JOEL DESERVES TO HAVE THREE BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN THAT ALL DIE OF CANCER.
I HATE SWEDEN.
>>534251517I would actually find AH studios and place a [nice plant pot] on their mailbox
They should make the red lights on the War strider to be it's weak spot
>Shows up
Whachu finna do bout it diveboi
>>534249047>boot up HD1 because I got it some time ago >play squids on Very Easy>immediately 10x more engaging than nu-squids with only 3 fucking units A and B team conspiratards are completely correct. The people designing this game now are complete total fucking jokes compared to the chads that made the first game.
>>534247315>distributed and ignored by the frangible, ablative super-materials that their armor is comprised of.What if when you hit an overseer with something like an EAT their armor equally distributed the energy through the entire suit of armor, shattering the entire suit, weakening them, and leaving them entirely vulnerable as well?
>>534245645I will laugh so hard if we got a GoW warbond instead
thanks for the sample runs bwos
>>534251840>Not only due to the limitations of the day, but by design the old squidโs are literally gayerYou are gay but also retarded
>>534252008np. Watching Pelican fuck the car to death and kill one of us was... kino?
>>534251727Why'd you post this picture of my wives?
>>534251892How about thatโs bad wrong, and why is is you felt the need to lob an eat at an infantry unit, but then also are sent through the 7 stages of grief when it doesnโt instagib
>charger lightly brushes me while standing perfectly still
>bleeds, ragdolls, rolls down a small drop, ragdolls some more
>dies from bleed
>>534250671L4D2, Vermintide 2 and Payday all had "Heavies/specials killed" statistics but I imagine if they tried to add it here it would break 5 other mechanics, misalign 7 sights and get Eagle-1 pregnant without a permit
>>534251126I argued for inconsistent realism, you said there's lore justification and then threw around physics words and now you're arguing gameplay, where it makes the least amount of sense because bullet sponges aren't fun to fight. "Yeah but the EAT ALMOST kills the heavily spammed ranged enemy" yeah but they don't. And I'm saying if the EAT can't one shot it because of it's health value (and not because of armor wizardry) then rapid fire weapons will take too long too, therefore less fun for everyone.
Something should be tweaked about the damage model, the durable damage thing makes things too complicated. I used to think that brood commanders had medium armor heads because I could empty half a clip/mag of some light penetration weapon into its head but it felt like the lib penetrator could decapitate it pretty quickly. And I thought medium armor penetration would transfer more damage than light armor pen because that would actually make sense. At least a charging decapitated brood commander can be kinda countered with a melee parry (which is fun)
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244369440421/76561199108851031
d10 whatev
>>534252831>I argued for inconsistent realism, you said there's lore justification and then threw around physics words and now you're arguing gameplay,I'm not even that guy, relax
>>534251634This seems ass backwards. Why would there be more harvesters wandering and less in drops, with more zombies in drops around fewer running around?
Flesh mobs being dropped makes sense, but squid drops should be more densely packed with squid units, rather than voteless bodies, even if the voteless are personal favorites
>>534253042IT'S CALLED FUN YOU STUPID PIECE OF SHIT
DO YOU WANT TO BE HARASSED BY FLYING NIGGERS OR A GIANT GROUP OF ZOMBIES A LA DEAD RISING 1?
NEXT QUESTION.
>>534252831>I arguedNot the guy from before, and Iโm not scrolling up, but I donโt think you did, or you did a poor job of it.
How is an enemy with clear strength and weaknesses a bullet sponge?
DESU, this whole conversation could be based on the lie of squid infantry being able to tank an eat to the plate and I wouldnโt even know, since the handful of times Iโve ever thought to quasar them Iโve apparently domed them.
>>534253145sorry, forgot my thought provoking image
Kill soloniggers. Behead soloniggers. Democracy kick soloniggers into the Meridia Black Hole. Crucify filthy soloniggers with the Crossbow. Defecate in a solonigger's super destroyer floor. Launch soloniggers into Hellmire. Report soloniggers to Arrowhead for SC farming. Chop soloniggers in half with the Hatchet. Crush soloniggers using a hellpod. Roast soloniggers with a Flamethrower. Eat soloniggers. Dissect soloniggers. Lobotomize soloniggers with the Throwing Knives. Execute soloniggers with the AT Emplacement live on national TV. Blow up soloniggers with a direct Recoilless Rifle shot. Disintegrate soloniggers with the Airbust Rocket Launcher. Atomize soloniggers with the Ultimatum. Magdumping the Autocannon into a pack of soloniggers. Zap soloniggers to ash with the Arc thrower. Crack soloniggers skulls with the AMR. Blow up soloniggers house with a Orbital Precision Strike. Gas soloniggers with the Sterilizer. Pulverize soloniggers with the HMG Emplacement. Shove a Thermite grenade down a soloniggers throat. Blow soloniggers head off with the Senator. Obliterate soloniggers with the Hellbomb Backpack. Force soloniggers to walk onto a Anti-Personel minefield. Run over soloniggers with the FRV
>play couple days ago
>perfectly fine
>play today
>awful performance, stutters
Cool
>>534253406No you fat nigger youre still ass backwards, you can have more zombies without them taking up drop space
>complaining about aerial unitLiteral pig
>>5342529103/4 still, join
>>534250671Just sidestep the issue and play with /hdg/
>>534252318I just thought it would be funny, as well as a neat thing to happen based on how you described their armor working.
>>534250382who is that semen demon at the bottom right
god it's 2AM and I want a cheese burger so damn bad
>>534254210Only if blast only weakens their armor to the point that their giant squid bazongas are allowed to deal the death blow to the straps, slapping and bouncing freely in the wind, and only if they add an emote where your helldiver stops and shouts AWOOOGA as their eyes turn into meter long oblong oogling devices projecting from their sockets, so one can properly respond in such a situation, at the spectacle of a helplessly exposed illuminated as it screams in a high pitched effeminate far eastern mannerism, dropping its arms and fleeing for cover, lest they losing anything else before their hated foe
>>534253873>he thinks frames are tied to ping
>>534255020>yuropoor realizing he is 3% 'merican
>>534254210>>534255068Also I wasnโt the one you originally replied to
>>534255068Arrowhead hire this man
>>534255271nah I'm just a fat fuck who couldn't put the fork down, consuming slops are my only coping mechanism. Guess I'm going to chug down a few beer cans and go to bed and get me that burger in the morning
I've got a buddy that plays HD2 religiously, but he does this thing where he only wears outfits with blue + yellow colour schemes and he exclusively fights bots. I unironically think he believes he's helping Ukraine by fighting the automatons somehow.
>>534255125Call your ISP bud
>>534253001Aight then, my bad
>>534253407If the weakness is bullets and it's too many bullets for it to be a weakness, it is a bullet sponge, and I'm really trying to argue from fun. Fighting mediums on bots or bugs with a machine gun feels much better IMO because of stagger, better weakpoints and less health.
I tried using autocannon to snipe their head off but then I couldn't zero in the sights on the autocannon, almost as if it wasn't meant for precise sniping.
The AMR kinda works but the low ergonomics kinda screws the fun and when you set the zoom to the lowest level it zooms out your FOV a crazy amount and it makes me squint like an idiot. Plus the AMR is really only efficient against the Overseers and maybe the bomber plane things. Can't blow up warp ships and uses too much ammo against tripods.
>the liewat
>>534255068You forgot an emote where the helldiver's tongue rolls out like a carpet, and requires the player to manually time button inputs to rewind their tongue back into their mouth.
>>534252651This stuff happens a lot, and I can't tell if
>I'm bad>they got buffed>AH accidently reverted a nerf>it's a bug>AH is testing shit and randomly decided to buff an enemy in my game to see how I'd react
>only use mg and las support weapons
>99% talon, 1% nade pistol
>always carrying a mobility backpack, yes the hoverpack included
>never take eagles, orbitals, or vehicles, only emplacements, turrets, and mines
>Bit more open with primaries. Will use any rifle, the sickle, the blitzer, or the lib carbine and defender
Is it terminal?
>>534255759Tell your friend I thank him for his cervix.
>>534256248as long as you're having fun and you don't bitch
>>534256221Helldorks needs more content
How to efficiently kill war striders with the AC? I dumped 10 APHET rounds into one of its leg and the nigga just grenade spammed me to death. Where do I aim?
>>534256631leg joint. It still takes a lot of shots though.
>>534256631You don't, autocannon has a pretty poor matchup against them even when you're hitting their leg joint weak point
Am casual as fuck, played Deep Rock Galactic mostly on Dangerous, rarely on Extreme and never on Lethal. Played a bit the original Helldivers and i dont think event went over difficulty level 5, struggled just right on it so i never went up. Meanwhile here, i was doing D10 on day 4 back when i started during the Squid invasion and honestly cant tell the difference between D7 and D10
>>5342566315 shots to the leg joint, 10 to the leg itself (don't hit the armoured greaves)
>>534246107What
>>534251634 said.
I like bots because it gives cool fire fights and they can kill you.
I like bugs because they're spooky up close and capable of killing you.
I don't like squids because they offer nothing, and can't kill you. But if squids were the horde faction where you were always running or running out of ammo, it would be fun.
Infinitely spawning zombies always moving towards you no matter where you are or what you're doing would actually force people to bring better builds, play together and be threatening. I don't think more Squids types will do much to be honest, because its not the design philosophy that works for Squids. Bugs are heavy armor, bots are medium armor, squids are light, that means squids need to swarm more.
>>534256631You don't efficiently kill war striders unless you have AT or thermites
>>534257747Same. Ive play darktide 8 hours a day for the past few years and never beaten uhhh dark difficulty. Finally came here after losing my job and all my hair and Iโm sailing through super helldive missions without ever even taking damage.
>>534258489>>534257747And yet HD2 is more popular than DRG or Darktide ever was. Isn't that curious. Its almost life difficulty is overrated by a minority or something.
>>534246107>>534257913Im trans, btw.
not sure if it matters.
>>534257913>Infinitely spawning zombies always moving towards you no matter where you are or what you're doing would actually force people to bring better builds, play together and be threatening.Squids are the easiest to solo what the fuck are you on about?
>>534258778Can you keep your fetish to yourself? People are trying to talk about Helldivers 2.
People aren't even taking the railstrike on bot missions. They aren't falling for Joel's tricks.
>>534259193>reading comprehension
>>534260215>Squids are the easiest to solo what the fuck are you on about?Where did I lie?
It is August 2025, and there are still no scopes with a higher zoom than 2x for the two longest-range weapons in the game.
>>534260292>reading comprehension
>>534260461pls understand small indie company
consoles would not be able to handle the extra load from lod increase
>>534258734Yea, casual players always outnumber good players who want challenge. Should they complain so that the game has tochange so that optional high difficulty be possible for them? Should they always be catered to?
>>534259193>Squids aren't very hard, here's a way I think you could make them more challenging.>"Are you saying squids are hard? They're the easiest!"Idiots like you should be drooling and moaning on my balls.
>>534259193Reading comprehension faggot. IF squids had infinitely spawning zombies that always moved towards you position; they would be a threat. It would totally change the mechanics on how you approached them.
>>534260730WE ALREADY HAVE A 10X SCOPE
IT WAS IN THE GAME AT LAUNCH
JUST LET ME PUT IT ON THE SCYTHE AND QUASAR
>>534260759Players are players. Appealing to more people = good. You're simply not important.
>>534260884small indie company pls
>>534260898Or you could make different difficulties to pander to both parties, which would appeal to even more people.
When developers listen to the "hardcore" minority, it always results in slopification that kills what made the original game or series actually fun in favor of souless calculator spreadsheets and minmaxing meta chasing. Catering to Esports murdered RTS. Catering to MLG killed Halo. Many more such examples.
>>534257913THANK YOU FELLOW WHITEOID
IT IS GOOD TO WAKE UP AND REALIZE LEFT 4 DEAD IS STILL THE BEST CO-OPERATIONAL GAME
I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO TRY OUT THIS COOL NEW MUTATOR CALLED RETURN TRIP THAT REQUIRES YOU TO GO FROM MERCY ROOFTOPS (AFTER REACHING THEM) BACK TO THE MERCY ROOFTOPS TO GET GAS FOR THE CHOPPER
REGARDLESS
MORE ZOMBIES. THE CAR AND ILLUMINATE RELEASED AT THE SAME TIME AND WE HAD FUN FOR MONTHS RUNNING THEM OVER. THEN FLESHMOBS ACTED AS FUCKING BARRIERS MAKING THE CAR LESS FUN.
MORE ZOMBIES. I WANT MY KILL COUNTER TO SAY 120+ AFTER I DIVEBOMB THEM WITH A HELLBOMB BACKPACK, AND NOT HAVE THAT BE CHANCE AFTER I FIND TWO GROUPS SPAWNED NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
PAY ATTENTION TO THE NIGGERFIED NIGGER-LIPPED NIGGER-COMPREHENDING NIGGER-MODE NIGDDIT THIS WEEK, FOR I SHALL POST A THREAD KINDLY SUGGESTING (IN WHITE TERMS) THAT MAYBE ILLUMINATE COULD USE MORE FUCKING ZOMBIES FOR FUN INSTEAD OF AUTISTIC FLESHMOBS
>INB4 RAGEBAITFLESHMOBS AREN'T HARD THEY JUST AREN'T FUN
I'M NOT KITING A UNIT FOR MORE THAN SIX SECONDS TO KILL IT UNLESS IT HAS A GUN THAT CAN SHOOT AT ME
THE FLESHMOB HAS NO GUNS
JOEL IS A NIGGER AND DESERVES TO BE RAPED TO DEATH BY A PACK OF BOARS AND ALEXUS IS A STUPID CHINK INCAPABLE OF RATIONAL THOUGHT\
VERIFICATION: NOT REQUIRED
>>534261041It never works. A game is either designed to be hardcore or softcore and people stick to it. DRG/Darktide offer both, DRG became softcore, Darktide became hardcore. EDF offers both, it becomes hardcore. HD2 offered both at launch, it became softcore.
Whatever the reason PvE games build communities of a type and then the game becomes that.
>>534261361>It never works.That's because it takes actual effort beyond just tweaking numbers in order to make a difference in difficulty that feels reasonable instead of retarded.
>>534261361DRG actually add new difficulty modifier though. Even without them, Vanilla hazard 5 in DRG is harder than launch helldiver diff 9. People don't complain about having to take "meta" set up to play at rhe highest difficulty in DRG neither.
>>534261638Na, it actually just does not work. Name some PvE games with both casual and hardcore that has successfully balanced both equally and both contribute to its ongoing financial progress.
>>534261652Everyone is playing 4, they always played 4. Its always been hard to find 5s or that hard mode thing I forget the name of.
>>534261638It is though? Every other game, higher difficult is just tweaking the number as well. Every of them is stronger enemies +.more enemies. Why does simply raising the number work for other game?
>people keep depicting Coretta Kelly in her 20-30s
>VA is in her mid 50s
hag erasure
>>534261856Because the Swedish programing would fall apart, all the more on consoles, if they tried to up the number of enemies, and if they just up the armor, we get back to rundivers where only your support weapon and red can kill things unlike other games without all or nothing armor systems where they can just scale up the enemy HP.
>>534261776I don't really have problem finding haz 5. Haz 5 with modifier has a steady player base as well. Hardest to find is deep dive elite but nature of deep dive always means it is hard to find random players for queue, even for standard deep dive
>>534260817That would make people build even harder into solo speed builds.
>>534252910ggz niggas, i got my eye on you c3
https://files.catbox.moe/ajvyfo.mp4
>>534261678I like this picture.
>>534262047But they do up the enemies between difficult as well, not just number of enemies
>>534262079No it wouldn't
>>534262218I mean not just the number of armored enemies
I am mad that fags failing defence missions got them nerfed so hard.
They used to be actually fun, and a proper challenge.
>>534262352People already do that with the current spawn rate.
Used ritualpost in mint condition, they don't make them like this anymore. 50 (You)s, no lowballers, I know what I got, so(o)n.
>>534262425arrowhead only knows two difficulty levels
>enemies spawn so slowly everyone is falling asleepand
>enemies spawn so quickly and so directly on top of you that it just feels stupid, why even bother, they clearly never played thisthe only time they ever managed to make something that was decently challenging without being too ridiculous was super earth repel invasion mission type, and they quickly nerfed it to the former category after the SE invasion ended
>>534262178it's so much better from another perspective holy shit
>>534261361>darkietide>hardcore
>>534256221MMMMMYYYYYYYY ARRRRMMM
MMY LLEEGGGGGGGGG
I'MBLEEDINGOUT
>>534262714Best I can do is a reply to this post or your mother will die in her sleep tonight
>>534262939Another innocent helldiver taken from this world too early by hot charger sex...
>flag doesn't even stun alphas in one hit
luh mao
>>534263295know your place, beta
>>534263295>pointy metal stick is inferior to a helldivers punchas expected of the finest
>>534244976 (OP)IDK if it's just me but the guys who play the automaton front are fucking assholes good lord. Every time I play the game im either kicked instantly or kicked before the match ends for doing nothing wrong.
>>534262546Because its easy to run off solo, it wouldn't be with more enemies
>>534264353>kicked before the match ends for doing nothing wrong.okay hitler
>>534264353trans and indian btw not sure if that matters btw
>>534264873It doesn't, you're welcome here :)
>>534264873You're not that guy (me)
>>534264353>bugSISSIES get bullied by botCHADSBased.
>>534264785NTA, but more enemies wouldn't really solve the running away problem unless you specifically program them to try to flank and encircle you, which AH seems incapable of doing outside of having them just spawn directly behind you in a blind spot.
The real solution is having them be faster, forcing you to either fight or die. My solution would be necromorph Voteless that take a bunch of damage to kill, but have frail limbs that you can cut off to take them out quickly.
The other idea would be to have Overseers actually control Voteless in a meaningful way, so that as long as there's an Overseer alive they control the Voteless in a big blob that tries to flank and encircle you while the necromorphs and Fleshmobs try to run you down.
>>534262714aaaaaaahhh take my power ritual-san. Gatling gun ripped from the turret as a support weapon soon AAAAAAAHHHHH
What did Arrowhead mean by this?
>>534265643>it wouldnt solve it unless they did XThanks, glad we had this chat
>>534265849I wasn't the guy you were talking to earlier friend.
>fleshmob
>leviathan
>war strider
>latest enemies added to the game
>all stupidly tanky
>it's best to just ignore them in 90% of cases
Is this good enemy design?
>>534266179>Ignoring war striders>when they over 90% of the map in grenades
is the shalom greeting some inside joke i don't know?
>>534265805I'm not feeling it. How about you give me some big Illuminate women getting Helldivered and then we'll talk.
>>534266283>engage war strider>get ragdolled, covered in grenades and ragdolled again>avoid war strider>don't get covered in grenades or ragdolledIt's that shrimple
>>534264353weird because I play bots quote a lot and I can count on like one hand how many times I've been kicked. same for bugs too
sounds like a you problem, m8
>>534266179>warstriders>die to a single AT hit to the legs, joints, or crotch>AP4 is only marginally less effective against the leg joints as they are against a tank's heatsink, but unliek the heatsink>>stupidly tanky
>>534266325there's only two kinds of people that use the word "shalom": Jews and people who don't like Jews very much
d10 any steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244377893961/76561198066017633
>Warstriders
>Buff body armor to AP5
>Add ablative crotch plate that acts like Factory Strider armor
>Lower HP of joints
>Keep eyes AP4 and make them weakpoints
>Add heatsink vents in the back
>>534266820>shoot at leg joints with AP4>get ragdolled>get grenade spammed>have to wait for grenade spam smoke to clear>repeatIt's better to throw a thermite or simply run away from them
>>534267386Grenade silos should be a weak spot like for rocket striders, all that HE should be cooking off
>>534264785>People run because theres a lot of enemies? I know! Add MORE enemies! That'll fix it!
>Eruptor
>Talon
>Epoch/Quasar
There is no more comfy loadout...
>destroy war strider arms
>becomes even more deadly
>>534267645I still think it would be cool to have an enemy that gets killed by lobbing a grenade into a vent as if they were a fabricator.
>>534267740Colloquially known as the "shitter special".
i love the "turret pop" of hitting the crotch of a war strider with AT
gimme your best audio related mods that would make my weapons and stratagems sound gud
>>534268435what about this
https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/7034?tab=videos
>>534268089I'm usually top kills and bottom deaths in every D10 I do.
Checkmate, fagboi.
>>534268435>warrant soundhttps://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/6956?tab=description
>eaglehttps://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/6776
>flamethrowerhttps://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/2260
>sentryhttps://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/1799
and 2 silly ones that I like
https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/3855
https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/935
>>534269628nta but
>using energy weapons>calling anyone else a fagpick one
>>534268435I like this sound replacer for the Senator
https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/895
There's also the LEAD overhaul which is okay for most primary/support weapons, though I don't really like some of the sounds, AMR just sounds weird, but your mileage may vary
>>534267816Same, except it shouldnโt be a bot, but a bug
>giant bile snail, burrowing centipede, spawner titan >ap 7 to 6, one weak spot of 5>throughing grenade it in its vents/gill/vecated eggsacks is its equivalent of headshotting it
>>534269628uh ouh metaflaggot melttiieeeee!!!
>>534269109Nta but that's actually pretty well done
>>534269667My favorite is the blue archive input
https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/2361
Robocop should be the next crossover
>>534270498We already had that tho
if they do an odst warbond for the xbox port I will actually believe in the american dream and white nationalism again, promise
>>534270307>Epoch>Erutor>metaAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
OHOHOHOHOHOHOHO!
EHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE!
>>534270651w-wuh? Whereโs the auto-nine???
xbox port -> end of service -> helldivers 3
>>534270789Eruptor is metacuck gun numero uno
>Helldivers will never reach it's full potential thanks to the eternal swede.
>"The MO kill count is a joke! Stop taking the satire game so seriously!"
>"Whats the punch-line?"
>"Eermmmmm uuuhhhhhh hmmmmmmm"
people that don't find this MO funny are on the spectrum
>>534273272I'll admit that it was funny for like, 1 mission, but outside of that it's just kind of stupid. What they should have done is word it as some kind of bot scare tactic, and drop the number to somewhere around 100,000.
downy swiggers protected by exceedingly generous labor laws are not allowed to accuse anyone of being on the spectrum
>>534273556>What they should have done is word it as some kind of bot scare tactic,that's what they did tho
>>534273631>he reads the MO textget a load of this fucking bozo
>>534273631>haha funny impossible MO>Failure: HELLDIVERS YOU HAVE LET AUTOMATONS RAPE OUR WOMEN AND KILL OUR CHILDREN. TRILLIONS ARE DEAD AND IT IS YOUR FAULT.
>>534269628I usually top girls and bottom boys but you do you.
>>534273631>MO doesn't state that this is supposed to be a scare tactic about being willing to waste excessive firepower on regular enemies>All it says is that this is supposed to do is show that we're willing to ignore their scare tactics, which doesn't make senseWell you made me waste my time double checking, so at least you have that.
i don't play this game but after what i saw from the super earth invasion by the squids, i think i've started to take it more seriously, current MO aside
cause while the first game had the patriotic fervor the reasons the opposing factions hadwere a bit more nuanced in order for the satire to work, this game had the propaganda initially be a bit more silly in portraying everyone as gunning for super earth's jugular for the sake of playing the victim, but the enemies seemed to just go "you know what? let's prove them RIGHT."
makes the whole thing really straightforwardly nightmarish
Let us suggest things that would theoretically be simple to add.
>Different Destroyer types that offer different bonuses.
>SEAF Squads more than one type of support weapon
>A 6th fucking Upgrade Tier
>MY FUCKING APC
>>534274136>to show them their scare tactics don't work->we're going to use our own scare tacticslike that's the joke
>>534274158Honestly yeah, it's like 40k lite and we're basically playing the tau with some sins of the father back story going on.
>>534274216anon... they can barely make armor sets have the same color and add capes. what makes you think those are simple?
>>534274216Some kind of check to see your position before the DSS (Diver Shooting Station) fucking pastes you.
Maybe a piece of kit that lets you repair mechs.
>>534274158>makes the whole thing really straightforwardly nightmarishit also makes the whole thing a stagnant plotline that will go nowhere interesting
>>534274326>>to show them their scare tactics don't work->>we're going to use our own scare tacticsIf the MO said or implied this you'd have a point. It doesn't. This is headcanon that you're using to defend a VERY stupid MO.
>>534274216new upgrade tiers would require a new difficulty tier deadass. 10 exists because a fully upgraded player is just that much stronger.
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>>534274493>If the MO said or implied this you'd have a point. It doesn't.
>>534274216I want a difficulty mode where they just straight up don't send reinforcements and they just drop you in to doom fortresses on actual suicide missions.
>the point is
>uh uhm uhhh
>>534274512I think for D10+, bring back the Launch era Operation Debuffs. The player is strong enough to justify it now.
Also a nigh constant stream of Chaff enemies dropping in, it'd be different from the normal enemy drops, which should be relegated entirely to Commissars.
>>534274765Haha, silly me, I'm such a botfag.
Commissars OR Watchers OR Scavengers.
>>534274652If you want an MO about not being effected by scare tactics make it about killing Hulks and Berserkers(The units that mount heads on spikes and shit) and then increase their spawns on all planets in the sector. Now the MO makes sense.
>>534274158It's honestly a pretty neat worldbuilding foundation. It's like Super Earth did everything they could to make their enemies appear as monstrous as possible in order to convince their citizens to exterminate them, only for them to gradually morph into the exact kind of monsters that Super Earth lied about them being.
>>534274430>we're basically playing the tau with some sins of the father back story going on.Neat that I wasn't the only one who thought this, given the whole greater good shadow government kind of thing going on.
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>>534274883>Describe them as brutish scare tactics>Immediately employ brutish scare tactics to show them YOU DENSE NIGGER
>>534274998>It's honestly a pretty neat worldbuilding foundation. It's like Super Earth did everything they could to make their enemies appear as monstrous as possible in order to convince their citizens to exterminate them, only for them to gradually morph into the exact kind of monsters that Super Earth lied about them being.And Super Earth, in turn, justifies itself with the consequences of its own actions. You might be fooled into thinking Arrowhead thought this far into their own concept. I assure you that they did not.
>>534275260Goddamn shameful how much potential Helldivers has that'll never be realized because it's now owned by literal Jeets.
>>534275260>And Super Earth, in turn, justifies itself with the consequences of its own actions.Probably the best part about the whole thing.
>You might be fooled into thinking Arrowhead thought this far into their own concept. I assure you that they did not.Trust me, I know.
>>534275354There is quite literally no worse feeling than watching something squander its potential.
>>534275103basic reading comprehension is really asking too much
>>534275354>>534275441>behemoths get buffed, escalation of freedom releases>game has to get significantly reworked>pileshid has steps down as CEO to wrangle>jeet steps in to take his placewhinging shitters and serial complainers are the ones that destroyed that potential
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244383568387/76561199108851031
d10 wahtev
>>534272605The punchline is that we take the entire sector but lose the MO, then the next MO is a scripted loss with 600% trooper spawn rates that takes the city because we didn't kill enough of them
>>534275103>"The loathsome Automatons attempt to dissuade our righteous expansion, desecrating both SEAF and citizen on morbid spikes of steel." >"Show the Automaton we fear not their primitive pyres, and litter the lands with their iron bodies mounted on rails from the heavens as far as their artificial eyes can see."There, NOW it sounds like you're trying to counter a scare tactic with a scare tactic.
Now look at what they actually wrote out, lazy, uninspired, and could literally be confused for any "Kill [random number] of [blank]" MO. In fact it was so lazy that people were actively wondering if this MO was some sort of misclick instead of a conscious decision.
>>534275738god I'd love 600% troopers in the cities, give a 200% bonus to annihilator tanks and shit while you're at it with doubling the SEAF spawns. All out war in the streets KINO
>>534275697He tried to make it sound like his "Personal friend, Jeet McStreetShitter, is just gonna handle the Financial side of the business :)"
>>534275849>now take what they wrote and turn it into purple prosetruly genius
>>534275985>Take what they didn't bother to write at all and write it for themftfy
>>534275849They should make a MO stratagem that deploys a back pack drone camera and we have to get pictures of divers getting melee kills and saluting in front of crashed dropships and not looking at explosions.
You know what else would have made for a good MO? Melee or fire kills.
>>534276197>I'm autistic and I need things spelled out for me you should probably stick to writing low quality fan fiction
>>534276347You should probably stick to reading low quality fan fiction if this is the kind of bar you've set for quality.
A good MO would have made you hug your fellow helldivers on the battlefield 30 million times :)
>>534275849>Show the Automaton we fear not their primitive pyres, and litter the lands with their iron bodies mounted on rails from the heavens as far as their artificial eyes can see
>>5342757243/4, join b4 i murder the other two niggas
>>534276492yeah but you can't hug the same person
>HELLCHUDS ARE LE BAD GUYS!!!!
Kill yourself right now.
>>534276484>no uI accept your concession
>>534276307That's what happens on flag raising missions
>>534276492This but while lit by the glow of a hellbomb.
>>534276659come back later, it's not brown hours quite yet
>>534275849>>534275985The MO text is lazier and less consistent than it used to be. Super Earth vehemently denies that Automatons are sentient beings, but this MO text is talking about them in the exact opposite manner.
My prediction for tomorrow: Some random lvl 50 squid invasion on some "who gives a fuck world" because some vaguely related thing. And if we fail we effectively lose the entire MO because Joel really wants to make the Indian intern happy so hes not accused of being a racist.
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Chat, is this a real thing (like in-game content) or just some random shit put on the galactic map only for the sake of the "story" ?
>>534277223We already have the megacity biome, so unless these new cities come with new tilesets, missions, or otherwise, they're not going to be any different from what we already have. My guess is that the only difference they're going to make is to the galactic war by shifting liberation values slightly.
>>534246107They burned us out on them by having back to back MOs and the super earth defense. Let them sit for a while then bring in some new non-zombie units that do something other factions don't. Like teleport or bring up big shields. Honestly I think the zombies are the worst part of the squids. They're boring. Flying overseers I think should be armed exclusively with grenade launchers.
>>534276995nowhere in the MO text does it imply that
>>534277223The prophecy...
>>534277634>The Automatons, no doubt, seek to intimidate our citizenry through manipulation of public perceptionThat doesn't like something a non sentient machine would do.
>>534247530>Joel must be masturbating to the thiught of how he can use this to rig all the MOsJoel be gooning for hours frfr ong
>>534277592Zombies are fine, but they should totally pop when you kill them, and Fleshmobs should explode into a fountain of gore when they die.
>>534277852You're showing concerning levels of thought. Please, see the nearest democracy officer for "evaluation".
>>534277852pant-shittingly retarded
My pants are still unshat... that CEO jeet lied to me
if you guys have trouble reading and understanding the satire in the MO text, go ahead and schedule an appointment with a psychiatrist so you can get an autism diagnosis. One of the many signs is the inability to comprehend metaphor, irony, and sarcasm.
>muh media literacy
here we go again
>>534278651>you don't appreciate my crappy attempts at humor>this is your faultor maybe they should fix their fucking game then figure out how to not fuck it up for the 50th time instead of making jokes
>>534277852intelligence does not imply sentience, and in your case sentience does not imply intelligence
>>534278651>One of the many signs is the inability to comprehend metaphor, irony, and sarcasmI'm autistic and communicate almost exclusively in metaphor, irony, and sarcasm.
>>534278247nta but those are from dissidents, they're Super Earth tech
>>534278247I always smile when i see these on bugs.
>"Heh, that'll show those brainwashed idiots who the real villains are-- NO, WAIT! LOOK AT THE SIGN! IM ON YOUR SIDE! IM ON YOUR SIIIIIIIDDEE!!!! *gets mauled to death by alpha warriors*
Add a new objective where you have to help a FOB manned with seaf troops before they get overrunned. Have a bunch of enemies spawn nonstop until you get there and defend it for a certain time.
>>534279003The men get mauled, the women willingly become brood-sows for superior terminid genes, that's why the broadcasts stay up
>>534278786I was going to reply
>*gasses u*But honestly that's my response to literally everything so pointing it out feels redundant.
>>534263136This is a description of the immunity cat. He will protect you from "your mother will die in her sleep tonight if you don't reply to this" and other likewise posts. He will also protect you from "no immunities" posts as well, so nothing can stop this cat from protecting you.Take good care of him, he's a good cat.
Joking is something you can do if it's appropriate to the relationship at hand. Your boss probably wouldn't appreciate the kind of retarded offensive jokes you exchange with your close friends. Here it's somewhat similar. Arrowhead are an arrogant bunch that pissed away all trust+sympathy anyone had for them. They're at war with this community. I don't want to engage in haha funi jokes with people who hate me and are hated in kind.
>>534279003I always thought that it would make more sense for it to be stuff like them saying that Super Earth failed to properly fund the terminid pens, and now millions are dead in a preventable containment breach that's all their fault. It's like showing steel workers Liveleak footage to show them how little their bosses care about their lives.
>>534279250good news bud, they don't even consider you part of the community
>>534279052There should be secondary objectives that let you escort civilians to emergency bunkers, and SEAF to military outposts. I just want a way to save these retards from themselves.
>>534279268The message theyre trying to get across is "Super Earth deliberately let loose the terminids because free-roam bugs produced more E-710 than ones in captivity. People dying in the streets is on purpose and they dont care how many died."
>>534279250why is yhour filename called liber t wink, he's not even winking
>>534279392This but the opposite and I can use a stratagem to arm civilians and seaf soldiers with higher grade weapons to escalate the violence.
>>534278906on the bug front it's dissident PETA bullshit, on the bot front it's hijacked to play automaton propaganda
>>534279638on today's episode of /hdg/ learns basic english:
>>534279415True, but we already know that Super Earth's been breeding the bugs to be more lethal because it causes them to produce more E-710, and I'd be willing to believe that they're just idiots that keep biting off more than they can chew, even though it could very well go either way.
>>534279634>PETA bullshitIt's more like pointing out that time Bayer Pharmaceuticals gave people AIDs on purpose to save money.
>>534279860>deadlier bugs produce more E-710>production could be increased by crossing bugs with deadlier animals>the deadliest animal of all is man...
haven't used the peacemaker since I bought the game, used it today, it's good
>>534280108it's a good solid pistol with decent damage and a reasonable magazine
genuinely my go-to sidearm
>>534280106Man, why are you like this?
>>534280254Look a faction of escaped lab grown bug-man hybrids with stolen SEAF weapons would be kino.
>>534280108The take the helldivers community isn't ready for is that basically every weapon is fine. Just use whatever.
>>534280106hey guys, did you know...
>>534280106>retrieve mutant larvahmmm
>>534246107>make leviathans have medium armor at most like every other illuminate unit, and actively seek out players to kill>more zombie spawns, players should drown in zombies>make flying overseers slower and cap their height harder>make every glowing body part a significant weakspot because why the fuck does shooting fleshmob heads do nothingEverything I listed could be done without adding any new assets or reworking much AI
Even with small assets/reused ones, we could get some cool stuff.
>Suicide vest zombies>flying staff overseers>groundbound versions of the flying smg overseers>overseers with arc weapons and ems grenades>watchers with harvester lasers. All of these would require little work and provide a shitton of diversity to the faction.
Unfortunately this is all still too much work for the svedes
>>534281324I'd have Overseer accuracy be directly proportional to how fast they're moving, and I'd have them start flying faster when getting shot at.
>>534278786>filters the absolute everloving fuck out of solofags
>>534281796Why are you acting like solofags just dont.... walk away?
>>534281894because they bitch endlessly about how long it takes to kill them
>>534280108they buffed it a lot since release, its a solid handgun that only gets sidelined by better or more useful options
>>534282073Yeah.... so they just started.... walking away from them.
>>534281324>>more zombie spawns, players should drown in zombiesfuck off with that shit, voteless are the weakest part of the faction
>>534281324>Remove the Leviathan's long range guns>Buff the Leviathan's bombs>Make Leviathans fire Harvester lasers at anything directly below it>Make Leviathans fly in a straight line from one side of the map to the otherI personally don't like the idea of something that massive being able to be shoved out of the sky with AP3, which is why I'd prefer to turn it into basically a weather condition that needs to be avoided, with the added benefit of being technically able to kill it.
I'd probably also add a smaller lowflying version of the Leviathan with a single laser cannon, and have it chase after whoever it spots like a more durable Stingray. Call it the trilobite or something.
>Observers livestream to Squid.tv
>>534282453>Remove the Leviathanstopped reading there, I agree
>>534282564>I don't want this unit reworked into something engaging, fun, or interesting I just want it gone entirelyokay gigashitter
>>534278651I understand it completely. The joke MO just isn't fun or funny.
>>534282172I have a theory that these "Muh solofag" shitposters are /coopg/fags, specifically Darktide players. It makes the most sense considering Fatshark games punish the fuck out of you for running off alone with enemies that can just disable you, forcing you to have team mates save you. The fact you can just walk away from things in this game or that you can have a division of labor boggles their mind and makes them seethe because they perceive it as someone ruining their le epic havoc 40 run by running off alone
>>534275724for a second i read your post as wahdev
Explain why adding CS2 style skins on top of current free patterns is bad
>>534279250SWEET LIBERTY I NEED HIS BUSSY
>>534278651Nah. The joke isn't funny and who ever made it had no idea how this would impact gameplay.
It's the typical AH retardation of
>HAHA its funny lets put it in even if it makes the game worse
>>534278786Just click or kite him
>>534282172refusing to engage with an enemy sounds like they got filtered
>>534282849Look at the state of cs2
>>534279250Most of the fanbase appreciate and encourage AH despite their flaws.
Having a dev that hasn't soullessly sold out their game and tries to listen to their community is pretty fucking rare these days.
>>534280108I think it's pretty okay, but it has no outstanding use case for me to take it.
I'd love to have a verdict equivalent ap2 pistol, and it doesn't quite feel like that.
It feels balances to the verdict if the verdict was ap2 itself.
>>534283078That's too complicated for redditors and /hdg/.
>>534267072What the fuck is wrong with the team reloading in this dumb ass game? the team mate started tweaking the fuck out and spazzing everywhere and afterwards I even hit ourselves and killed him
>>534283192Helldivers is won by doing objectives. You are supposed to ignore enemies in favor of objectives whenever possible. That is the way the game is designed.
>>534246107All they have to do is release the leaked cultist sub faction and permanently shelf the zombie slop forever. Space wizards that can do nanotech magic and and have a cool monk aesthetic is infinitely more interesting than fat squids wearing diaper armors with zombies.
>>534278786I will say there is something fucky about their explosion code. Like an eagle air strike will land next to them, and all their faces are fine. I'm convinced something is wrong with those head hit boxes.
>>534280108Its always been a fun pick. Love the way it looks and sounds.
>>534283434It's a dead mechanic that AH forgot about because the game used to be a slower paced tactical shooter during its 8 year development.
>>534283434I hate that there isn't a voice line asking someone to team reload for you.
>>534283481No.
The sub faction would only work with zombies supplementing them. Otherwise 90% of the anti horde shit is useless, and people just take machine gun sentries.
>>534283434I really love this game but hoooly shit man the fucking glitches and incompetence from the developers god damnn
The seeker knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the seeker from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.
In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the seeker is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the seeker must also know where it was.
The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.
>>534283593it does play one when you have a team reload weapon in your hand and its empty and you press r, ya i wish there was one in the comms wheel tho
>>534283593Bu-but there is
It actually says that if you're out of ammo.
>>534283457there's a difference between temporarily ignoring an enemy while doing an objective and doing a 360 and walking away whenever you see a specific enemy, on the objective or not
>>534282725Well I thought it was funny
>>534283691These things, impacts, and HE nades need a buff. Higher AP would be a nice start.
>>534283637They have ghouls replacing zombies retard.
>>534283590AH didn't forget about it. They abandoned it because the console casuals and gamer dads are too retarded to make use out of it.
>>534283457This is why I love squids. It actually feels like you're pushing towards an objective through enemies, not just killing shit until the screens empty like the other factions.
>>534283831>These things, impacts, and HE nades need a buffHow did you arrive to this conclusion? I have used all of them countless times to great effect.
>>534283750And did either of you bother to specify which one of these two situations you were talking about? Because "Walk away from the fleshmob" IS a valid strategy, especially with gas.
>>534283892So they just have zombies?
>>534283831No, what they need, all grenades except thermites, fireworks, and gas needs.
Is more capacity and for resupply boxes to give more than fucking two.
>>534283831Seekers are ok, but you should be able to ping down a bug hole or a fabricator vent and have it fly in there and destroy it.
>>534283831>>534284221Yes, what we need is more power creep because the game isn't already a joke as is. Good idea.
>>534284221Half of max rounding up, taking grenade armors into account. 3-4 gives you 2, 5-6 gives you 3, and 7-8 gives you 4.
I hope they never fix the hold emote.
>>534284345>powercreep>buffing underpowered garbageThat's not even what powercreep is, if anything it's making the stuff obsoleted by it catch up.
>>534284029Well when would you take these options.
>Flying nadesyou want to be able to throw an impact at a long range target point or a flying unit
Only use case is for gunships and maybe distant patrols (which don't really need engaging at distances), and in any range you'd want a grenade for a group of enemies right away it's awkward and delayed
>ImpactsProbably the better of the three, but that's only because you can use them to group stagger enemies before they can hit you. This is pretty much solely applicable against grouped up devs. Otherwise any other grenade option is better. Meaning it's effectively just a get out of jail for free card with no unique niche outside that.
>HE grenadesThe AP4 falls off after 2.5 meters, which means it can't really do much to heavies. It's finicky and not worth learning the cooking. At most can deal more damage to dev patrols, but it's very rare to actually need something for clumped up dev patrols.
They all feel like bot nades exclusively, but bots never clump up outside of drops. (Which are typically countered by something stronger already).
>>534284485>its not powercreep!>we just want good options to be as strong as the top meta picks!Never mind the fact that the top meta picks are essentially broken. But there's no point in making this post because you'll keep ignoring the fact that the enemies have never been weaker or more toothless than they are now. Asking for more weapon buffs when the game's top difficulty can't even offer a smidge of difficulty is fucking retarded.
>>534284221I'd be fine with that, nades feel extremely restricted for the amount you get. Frags felt like a really good direction.
>>534246107Fleshmobs with Tesla towers in their backs.
Overseers with arc throwers
If the arcs hit a voteless, it doesnโt count and arcs again.
Voteless struck by these strange bolts are effected as if stimmed
>>534284743Flame nades are nearly mandatory on aliens with their spawn rates. It'd only make sense to give the player more grenades to keep up with these changes spawn rates
>>534284478>>534284345HE, Smoke, Incen, and Frag nades could be buffed to 4 per resupply boxes with 6 base capacity, and people still wouldn't take them over thermite.
Incen I'd admit to be okay-ish already, but gas exists.
Impact/Incen Impact while easy to use, is a bit hard to close bug holes/fabs with.
Though incen impact is actually in an okay spot already as a way to plop down an instant fire floor against bugs/voteless.
Impact has garbage economy though.
Who the fuck uses arc nades?
>>534284743More supply doesn't increase their strength or power level, you just get to fucking use them more.
>>534284636The reality is that the only reason I take anything over gas grenades is because I want the added challenge of playing without gas grenades.
What I need is a plasma grenade to go with my PLAS MAN loadout. I'M THE PLASMAN! I COME IN AND I THROW PLASMA EVERYWHERE I TAKE A BITE OUT OF THE PLAS!
>Give everything a usecase so that no piece of equipment is directly outclassed or otherwise made redundant.
>Then tweak enemies and modifiers to create meaningfully different difficulties once you have a well balanced baseline.
I sure am glad we all agree on this design philosophy. I really enjoy talking with my /hdg/ bros about Helldivers 2!
>>534284956>Who the fuck uses arc nades?Me they're fucking fantastic, dare I say Op two zaps and an epoch kill most lite heavies.
They will annihilate crowds of enemies and stun whatever is left. Like I'm actually shocked - heh- people aren't gushing about them..
>>534284956>Having access to more nades at a moments notice isn't a buff.Cokme on bro, are you serious?
>>534284956Incen nades got buffed and are ludicrously strong, like on par with gas as they linger twice as long and just melt chaff.
Incen don't need a buff at all but I'd agree with your others. Smoke could use a bigger radius too.
>>534284956I'd willingly take a useless grenade with a base cap of 8 so that I didn't have to take the grenade pistol to close bug holes.
>>534285009>just be good at game design broIf only it were so easy to expect.
>>534282549>All autocucknons? Ayo chat are these divas like fr fr
>>534285082Even if you have 10 HE/frag grenades per spawn you still won't use them for shit beyond dumping them on bug holes.
>>534284956Thermite is great becouse you can blow up fabs by throwing it anywhere on fab. With warp you can solo fabs so fast with thermite. Strafing run and AT weapon
>>534284743>the top meta picks are essentially broken. How so. Gas I can agree with, but thermite doesn't really break the game. The only reason I would say it gets so much use is that AT reds are useless and thermite exists out of necessity.
>>534285164I take barrages and EAS for this and feel pretty satisfied having them in my kit.
I think too many grenades would be a bit of a problem, and I'd rather they just buffed the power of nades themselves maybe.
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>>5342853203/4 HE grenades can't outright delete a patrol. And having enough grenades on hand to closer a large bug nest is not a minor thing either.
>>534285320You say that but I use frags all the time for clumped up groups of enemies. They help buy space so you can push through places, and taking supply pack, frags, and nade armor is my favorite past time.
>>5342853643 uses balance thermite very well. Few enough that you need something else for AT. But still powerful.
>>5342855422 delete patrols, one plus some gun fire will be typically enough to one mag most patrols.
Like the one thing nades do typically is nuke patrols.
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>>534284743>crossbow>senator>Gas>strafing run>EAT>warp>mg sentryIt's diving time
>>534285591Yeah, they're a nice option to have in a kit but very rarely mandatory. They mostly just enable kits that don't have enough AT.
If we saw more reliable AT reds thermites would drop pretty quickly.
>>534285542>use up all your nades/2 resupply boxes worth on a patrolA GL would do it in half a mag, not to mention HE nade fuze fucks its accuracy up even more unless you're cooking it like an Epoch with no indicator.
>>534285585Which gas does even better at save for frag having higher capacity.
>>534285718When you learn to speak from millennial writing. It makes you retard
>>534285507Fix your fucking game, Swigger!
>>534285591Honestly the long timer between burning and exploding is their real drawback. Every time a charger is just slowly walking towards me to do its crushing claws attack while a thermite is burning on its face makes me wish I took anything else.
>>534285771If rocketpods worked properly. I would run without support weapon. Thermite+rocketpods+strafing run. Pick up support weapons I find from map.
For me. It wouldn't be thermite that gets dropped first. It would be support.
>>534275724ggz frens, absolute fucking wild games
https://files.catbox.moe/cueei1.mp4
>>534286013Kek, saw that coming from a mile away
d10 any steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244391705733/76561198027910192
>>534285790>Which gas does even better at save for frag having higher capacityI dislike gas for being mindless and OP.
Frags are fun to throw honestly
>>534286226you had (no) chance
>>534286013>complete mission>sit at extract farming kills>burn down reinforcements to zero with friendly fire and bullshit stuntsGreat time. Gotta say though going full less lethal on bots fucking sucked though.
>>534285790There actually is an indicator for every nade that tells you exactly when to throw it when cooked.
>>534285718These niggers at Arrowhead got too damn comfortable treating their customers like little retarded children, of course they would choose to act like this because there's little to no repercussion.
Managerial Outreach Warbond
Armor Passive: Ear of the Council
>when you call in a shared stratagem, itโs CD is reduced by 50%. Resupply Boxes recover an additional grenade, reload, and stim use for you respectively.
Booster: friends in high places
>Adds 500kg and OPS to your squads shared stratagem pool
X11805 Managerial AI Housing unit STRATAGEM
>120sec cd
>Improves stamina and stamina recovery by 30. Reloads holstered weapons. Improves cooldown of holstered energy weapons by 20%. Wearer Ignores intense heat environmental condition.
>hands-on (toggleable): cannot run when toggled. improves melee damage, primary and support weapon ergonomics as well as respective recoil values by 30. Negates sway for such weapons. Reduce the heat buildup of drawn weapons by 80%.
>super-safe (toggleable): prevents any shot that would prevent a tactical reload or bring an energy weapons heat levels to 100%; shocking you for 60 arc damage and immediately reloading/holstering the weapon respectively. Weapons that would explode or cause self damage will trigger the above instead.
>when dropped, immediately creates a 1/10/12 static field as an EMS mortar, then explodes as a thermite grenade.
>>534286474Wow.
...
That's actually pretty good.
>>534286474LAS-317 โThresherโ
>support weapon; includes backpack (automatically toggles on all options)>melee damage as stun lance>70 pen4 damage; 700 RPM>5/9 second up/down time>actions: pump; super-safe; fully-freed>fully-free: bypasses super-safe. in this firing mode, heat production and RPM are increased by 50%. When at 100% heat, each shot deals 50 arc damage to its target and up 5 additional targets within 5 meters; you are affected as if by an Ion Storm, cannot be stunned, and deal 100 arc damage to yourself and up to 10 other targets within 15 meters every second. This self damage increases by 100 every second, to a cap of 600 after 6 seconds at 100% heat.>pump action: melee air-racks the slide, flooding the chamber with hyper-coolants, priming the weapon. Cool down rate is increased by 100% until fired, and the weapons next shot deals an additional 100 arc damage to the target and up to 5 others within 5 meters of the target, creating a 1/10/12 meter radius static field centered at the point of impact.>its back pack, the X11805 Managerial AI Housing unit, has its own stratagem>any instance of arc damage dealt by this weapon arcs to up to 5 additional targets.>600 sec CDLAS-1417 โCraneโ
>support weapon; includes backpack (automatically toggles on all options)>melee as stun lance>200 pen 3 damage; 300 RPM>5/5.5 second up/down time>actions: pump action; super-safe; superlative redline>superlative redline: bypasses super-safe. base heat level is set to 99%, fire rate is increased by 2.5x. When at 100% heat, you are affected as if by an Ion Storm, cannot be stunned, and deal 60 arc damage to yourself and up to 10 other targets within 15 meters every second. This self damage increases by 60 every second, to a cap of 300 after 5 seconds at 100% heat.>pump action: after meleeing, cool down rate is decreased by 50% until fired, and the weapons next shot becomes ap 6 and deals an additional 150 explosive damage in a 1/3/5 meter radius.
>>534286568>Sticks to the farming laser themeNice.
>>534286706The numbers were related to something to do with the other lasers in game too but I forget what exactlyโฆ
>>534286474>>534286568didn't read, you will instead get underwhelming warbonds with a lot of bugs that will take months to fix and you will like it
>>534286798>>534286568Lotta this text is going over my head, you should write a summary of what these things do maybe.
Either way I like the theme.
You're given 50 gorillion dollars to make Helldivers 2 the best game it possibly could be. What do you change/improve/remove in the game?
>>534288167I'd spend 49 gorillion dollars constructing the ultimate torture chamber for Alexus
>>534288167buy a flamethrower, march into their offices and torch Alexis, spend the rest of the money on my lawyers
>>534288167Fix the bugs.
Get more QA.
Focus on more mission variety, enemy variety, and replayability.
I make the game have more ways to play at different skill levels.
I add a classic mode where players have to stick together near the host and can be revived.
I let the team experiment with dumb ideas, and pay pilestadt to monitor them and see what's fun.
I add a workshop for modding.
I let players spend bonus samples on mid mission bonuses like free railcannon, and have them gamble to get more samples should they beat the mission.
N ya I unno.
>>534286706I owe SEAF-chan sex
>>534277690>helldivers if good
>>534286910The bag is voiced by an ojousama. Toggling off the supersafe mutes her
>>534286910>>534288757Or possibly a tomboy or tsundere SEAF.
Any dating sim archetype basically. Luck of the draw when you turn yours on.
>>534288857Indianaaaaaa-freaking-jones
>>534288167I buy Sony and Arrowhead outright, cancel all other existing projects, fire all women from the team and pay the modellers and riggers 1 gorillion to create high-impact sexually explicit Squi'th women. Then I gradually buff each weapon day by day while Alexus watches with his eyes forced open like that chair from A Clockwork Orange
>>534288857>dodged all that>dies to trick shot missile(?)
>>534289053the strider USUALLY explodes when he dies
>>534283228What an utterly cucked notion. You've been psyopped. AHS are every bit as bad as Blizzard and other bigger names.
>Arrowhead confirms the Xbox port was 100% Sony's idea
Neat, maybe that means we'll get a real warbond instead of cosmetic gaylo shit.
>>534289446>AHS are every bit as bad as BlizzardLet's not get crazy. It would take 2p years of coasting on a good reputation while releasing no good games to be as bad as blizzard.
>>534286910A vague idea of self plugging tubes and spindly robot arms clamping on to a gun to keep it steady. When you toggle it on, whatever weapon is equipped gets this treatment, and toggling it off would require holstering and unholstering the weapon or something else annoying to complete the process. You wouldnโt be able to disrupt the holstered reloads either. Essentially that weapon would be bound for the process for at least a moment while the backpack fiddles with it, to prevent too much abuse. Not sure how hot swapping would work.
The guns could be anything, but I pictured comically large pistols with tubes leading to the base plate and back plate respectively, not just reminiscent of their in game progenitors, but melded on top of irl handguns, namely funhouse mirror 1911s. Normally youโd have to hold them like sawed offs, but the pack allows them to be toted โsingle handedโ, itโs manipulators cradling and leveling respectively alongside your own.
The first one utilizes the backpack to act as a safe DE sickle, but helldivers are given essentially jail broken models, possibly pushing the AI and its systems to the limit as it tries to convert and shed the access energy buildup through a series of outlets and failsafes. Namely through electromagnetic effects with end results similar to other as seen in game: namely emp mortars and Tesla arcs.
>I was trying to think of ways to allow alternate fire without mode selection, so melee being the trigger seemed easy to work in and understand. As for the description: air racking is just racking the slide with one hand via punching motion. Googling it will show examples.The latter is the talon, but a support weapon. The systems in the back pack regulates its fire rate, with the trade off being a greatly enhanced capacity and cooling rate. Itโs โpump actionโ slows cool down, but turns it into a mini quasar.
The numbers are made up and donโt matter, but I weighed them against their counterparts
>>534288857>Bad dog! Down! Roll over! Play de- ACK!
Why doesn't AH have a staged charging system for Railgun and Epoch?
e.i. 90-95% of charge does 95% of max damage, 95-99.99% of charge does 100% of max damage
There is a super high (like 98-99%) charge requirement for one-shotting hulks with Epoch that is annoying to get consistently since a quarter second mistake is instant death.
I think I'd be a nice enough quality of life improvement for these guns so people take them more. Not like they are broken anyway.
>>534279634what in the fuck is that gigadevastator on the automaton broadcast
>>534290479That's Cyber Stan, enemy of Seaf Sam and John Helldiver.
>>534290389Because hitting around 90% charge is the skill part of those gun. There are power increase in the earlier stage of the charge too but there is a big jump, particularly for Epoch. You actually don't need high charge unsafe railgun and even epoch to get one shot in hulk eye.
>>534286226gg thanks fellas
Also I hate this dumbass bug.
So what's the story with old armors having inconsistent armor perk to their naming scheme/description anyway? Stuff like the SA-04 Combat Technician having a name (SA) and description that implies it's Servo-Assist yet it's a medium scout armor.
Meanwhile the SC-15 Drone Master is an engi armor even though its SC implies it's supposed to be scout armor like the Infiltrator and Trailblazer.
Meanwhile Polar Patriots armors all have CW prefix while being Light-Scout, Heavy-Fortified, and Heavy-Servo
>>534291738Stop asking too many questions, they just got off vacation and already made one half-arsed patch.
>>534291738Most likely the perk got scrapped and changed in development, Poop Patriots most likely had something like Cold Weather that they realized was completely useless since cold barely affects you anyway
>>534291738Well you see Pileofshit was hungry one day and he wanted to eat bacon and apples.
>>534291914>most likely had something like Cold Weather that they realized was completely useless since cold barely affects you anywayi mean thats on them for not making a cryo based enemy for either bots or squids
>>534286474>>534286568this reads like insane schizo rambling
>>534288857psst hey budy
dumping all 4 commando shots into the foot will kill it, you don't need to go for the belly or get an angle on the eye
>>534292464I refuse to aim for the foot because that feels like a gay cop-out that shouldn't be viable, and it looks stupid.
>>534292761It's actually one of the few "realism that benefits the players" for once.
I'm sure you've heard shitton of times about how "real life mechs are piece of shits because unbalanced weight, also square cube law" and legs being their weak spot represents it.
>>5342929314 tiny rockets hitting the same foot wouldn't do shit to even destabilize a quadrupedal mech, let alone cause catastrophic damage
>>534293102Have you seen one of those videos of a dog or a cat with one of their legs missing hobbling along?
Well the F.Strider is a giant robot, it just can't hobble along ,so losing even just one leg is an actual big deal.
Speaking of which, Hulks not immediately tripping from having 1 leg blown is sillier.
If the bots just covered their units in bushes, they'd be practically bullet-proof.
>hey guize, strategic opportunity to bash your head on a 2.5% resistance planet and fail the MO
bruh
>>534293254but it's not losing a leg. you're not shooting out the knee joint, your doing the equivalent of cutting a toe off if you shoot the foot pad
>>534292464Yea, but I like shooting it in the belly cause it feels awesome, thanks 4 the tip tho.
Why must every small enemy be entirely immune to explosions on their limbs.
I want to blow the legs and arms off hive guards, devs, and overseers.
>>534293419with the le funny joke objective of ORCing troopers this MO is guaranteed to fail anyway, might as well take that piss rain shithole
>>534293254hulks start limping if you blast one of their legs off
which, its one of those things that nobody ever does because its easier to blast them with your AT choice or to head-eyes them with your AP4 weapon of choice.
dude just lower the difficulty
>>534292931Shooting the knee I could understand, but all shooting the foot should do is force the FS to hobble instead of walk.
>>534294167>500kg inconsistent at destroying stratagem jammersgenuine skill issue desu
the mobs part is real though.
>500kg lands in BT face, it laughs it off>500kg lands under BT, it laughs it offAND WHATS UP WITH THE PERFORMANCE GETTING WORSE?
some weapons wont get balanced because theyre behind paid warbonds, and we cant have a live-service game where you dont get stronger options without either grinding your balls off, or paying real shekels for it.
>>534294167>We wants the game to have challenge, don't make the game even easier by weakening enemies and buffing too many weapons/stratagem>Uhhhh don't you have want to have bug fix??? Great strawman really. Nobody complains about bug fix
>>534294167>the remaning abundance of unbalanced weapons / mobssuch as?
>>534293419It's funny because the only strategic opportunity we ever managed to complete was the super earth one solely because everyone was (and still is) sick of fighting the fucking illuminates
>>534294167Didn't know we had so many babies that wouldn't recognize this image from more than a year ago.
>>534293419>Botdivers in cord have Oasis PTSD and decided to go for the 2.5% planet or JOEL will punish botniggers just like how they ignored Oasis and got hit by double level 50 invasions
>>534286706our daughter is very proud of her mother.
I'm going to use weapons I've never used in 800 hours of playtime
what faction is best for breaker, railgun, and senator?
>>534295285bots if you're bat shit insane
>>534295285squids but they aren't a faction so why bother
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Prove you're not a newfag tourist by posting playtime
>>534295285breaker is ok on bots, good on bugs, ok on squ~52"$$""""""""""NO"=$!
railgun works best on bots due to them being more of a "if you can aim you got a ez time" faction. safe mode can ohk hulks in the visor. its okay on bugs, kinda very meh on... . . .. . .
senator is fun on both bots and bugs. bots, again, easier time to blast things in the weakspots. bugs, makes killing hive guard or brood commanders. it can 1-2 hit kill a -. --- / ... --.- ..- .. -.. ... to the head, if the bullets dont decide to glance off their bucket helmet.
>>534295561"playtime"
there, can i go now?
>>534295607Post her getting APE'D by BHC
>hit start
>game doesn't start
every day this game breaks more
>>534296015disable your mods and verify the game
what the actual fuck
we have an anticheat that does nothing but kill the game
>>534295285Squids
>Breaker for voteless and Fleshmob>Senator one shots overseers head>Railgun one shots overseer heads, can kill harvester, can kill stingrays
"Super Earth. Our home" - is GENIUS writing
Because it's the first line you hear in the game - and it is A LIE.
As implied by the ship crew's voice lines - most humans from colonized planets never even get to set foot on Super Earth - and most would not even be allowed to. And yet, the advertisement aiming to enlist the children from colonized planets starts off calling Super Earth "our home". That's terrifyingly good propaganda writing - using the highly evocative and powerful word "home" to cover up a blatantly hollow statement and using "our" to create a false sense of collective ownership over a place they can never even visit! Fucking GENIUS idea to start the game off like that.
The fact that the voice lines and MO announcement texts have added more and more depth to the satire in the game consistently over the last year and a half is AMAZING. It really does take VERY talented and passionate writers to do it this well - and there are COUNTLESS examples of this brilliance scattered all over the game.
So yeah, hats off the the writers working to add so much depth and detail to Super Earth lore. Absolutely fantastic work!
your post smells of copy-paste from reddit
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244401479669/76561198195228611
d10 lobby chooses
>cool a snow planet has a ton of people to play with!
>it has the DSS
>eagle storm active
>>5342973573/4 play the video game
>>534297761DSS makes the game easier. If you just move away from the enemies, DSS clears 90% of the shit for you
>>534257913No itโs
>bots are heavy armor with some medium>bugs are mix of light and heavy armor>squids are light with some medium
>>534297934until they give some actual content that doesnt feel stale after 3 missions - no!
>>534295090We completed one 2 weeks ago with the Stalwart on Fori Prime
>>534296174It only exists to protect SuperCredits.
But it's doing a bad job at it.
>>534298397Thank you for making the MO easier by not idling on the lobby.
Why are Swedes the prime example of what happens when authors/devs aren't held back by their editors/directors to not do stupid shit on top of being lazy?
'member Database One? I 'member
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>>534295561does this count?
>>534298560Because the only other multiplayer games available to us right now are triple-A slop shit that hasnt changed the slightest over the past decade or so.
CoD is tweaker tryhard fest, Battlefield is fucking dead (Hey catch me later, I'll post lobby for BF6)
DRG hasnt had any meaningful changes done for how many seasons?
At some point, embracing the old self and playing singleplayer games seems like a way better call than anything.
>>534299452I meant that more regarding how Swedes like Mojang and Arrowhead seems QoL-averse lazy piece of shits that adds stupid stuff because swedish humor or something.
I really think they should be embarassed at how SC farming/medal farming, not playing the actual game, is the best way to gain a resource that actually contributes to your account's persistent progression among other things.
Or how level 20-25 weapon XP is just way more than 1-20 for no reason.
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>Charbal resistance is 2.5%
How are we supposed to take it when the player base is already split up ? Fucking Joel.
>>534299452>DRG I dropped DRG after they added that stupid fucking claw grabbing scorpion
what the fuck were they thinking
Bros its over... everyone's playing battlefield 6, HD2 is dead....
>>534297330Relax, libtard
>>534300610I cant speak for AH, but Mojang?
Their balls are stuck in a vice thanks to Microsoft. And Microsoft is very VERY careful about letting them do any updates that would change the game in the slightest, because they dont want to change anything that would make the game feel...any different. The past additions have been more closer to a theme park of "we added a new thing, it has nothing to do with anything else in the game, and doesnt change anything fundamentally, but its there...so...yeah."
Its why their April Fools jokes are the only time you see something new and unique, cause its the only time Mojang can do whatever the fuck they want.
Not trying to defend Mojang here, just saying how it is from what I've heard 'bout them.
>SC / Medals being the only resource tied to a permanent progressionTrue. And even past player level 25, there's nothing to unlock other than titles. You dont even get any cool capes or any special armor!
How hard would it be to shit out a cape for reaching level 50, 100 or 150 that gets progressively more fucked up to show how long you've been around? Or an armor set that is the default B-01 with modifications done to it, maybe some etchings into the armor similar to the light jihad armor, or having bullet / shrapnel holes in them like the other medium Steeled Veterans armor?
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>>534293352Bushes were made bulletproof by Alexus in another desperate measure to limit the boundless power of DMR gods.
>>534299452HD2 practically is a singleplayer game to me now because going d10 solo with meme builds seems to be the only way to avoid a guaranteed win, also you get way less crashes and connectivity problems
>>534299452>only ultra-mainstream slop is availableAlrighty then.
>>534300746>start impossible MO>make shitty side objective>if the objective fails the MO stays impossiblethis is Joels new favorite trick
>>534300941this but unironically
wouldn't be shocked if the BF6 release pushed HD2's active player count below 10k considering we'll be getting fuckall for content in between now and then
>>534302246Going through the steam market is a chore, just by how much SLOP there is in general. THERE IS
SO
MUCH
SLOP.
So many games that are trying to ride on the success of other popular titles, but they're all derivative of the source material, they're not trying to innovate on it!
So.
Throw out some games you would consider gems, and not coal, wise guy. Please?
>>534302716Voices of the Void
It's an itch.io game made by some furry so you know it's going to have that autistic goodness.
Watch some gameplay footage because it's hard to describe.
I reccomend this guy's even if he is a literal homofaggot.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3ZJ0QWE7os1uilJ6vRele_KJZD5Xtkey
So... we're supposed to destroy a toaster with what basically a few hundred kilograms pure tungsten from orbit. Then we repeat this for 2.5 million times. Am I getting this right?
>>534302905Yes.
It's a very funny joke haha don't be a buzzkill now
>>534302905The devs vision for the game is clearly some sort wacky slapstick comedy joke. I've had just about enough
You know, I wouldn't mind doing the MO if the required strategem was a freebie instead of us having to equip it ourselves. Never got that logic other than Swedes being Swedes.
>>534303229It's free for the next couple days
>>534299452Don't worry bro jump ship/jump space totally won't suck ass.
please god
>>534302716I second this
>>534302903 guy's opinion on VoTV. Very cool, atmospheric, vaguely im-sim game. But it's a singleplayer game and I assume you're looking for multiplayer, as previously mentioned.
For shooters, the ArmA series is fun and Reforger seems to have a pretty good and active multiplayer community.
Ready or Not is a very nice spiritual successor to SWAT4, but you really should not play multiplayer with pubbies, so you'd need buddies or somehow get people from here to play with you. (it also has singleplayer, which are the same missions as multiplayer, but you get an AI squad to command)
And Warhammer 40k Space Marine 2 is also a fun co-op horde shooter, though Admiteddly the gameplay loop isn't too deep.
>>534303229If you want to complain at least play the game
>>534300773Players were getting too good at holding down a position.
Though, addition of scorpion and the red spewer kinda cemented scout into the HVT hunting role of the team, which was kinda neat and fun.
>>534303229Waste one of your strategem slot while SC farming, you rike?
Real content btw.
>>534303182Fool
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>>534300773They nerfed the armor on the stingtail so its not as cancerous as when they first came out
new commando tech just dropped
>>534304689Ok that's pretty cool, even though It's probably not intentional.
>>534304781If they fix that bug I'm going to be mildly annoyed and call arrowhead swiggers
>>534304781It's useless beyond sniping fab vents since it just shits itself with moving targets even if it's something like dropship hover.
>>534304889Same
>>534304921I know it's not very useful, but it's very neat and unique; which is cool.
>>534303764>there is more than 1 furfag in this threadYes, I am aware.
>>534304921>shits itself with moving targetsBrother, this is a weapon for people who have done nothing but abuse the shit out of wire-guided missiles in games like ArmA or Battlefield.
I wouldn't call it useless either, because if you're good enough, you get to kill 4 hulks to the eyeslot before you need to call another one in.
It has upsides and drawbacks, just like any weapon does. Otherwise it'd be fucking boring to run the same thing over and over again because its the best option available, eh?
>>534304443Still 1/4
are my lobbies fucked again?
>>534304443eh fuck it
closing lobby
gonna cook something and come back later
>>534300746>Playing the MOlol lmao. Don't engage with shitty GMs.
>>534305114I'm talking about the "last lazed coordinates" and non-shoulder fire gimmick being shit outside of fab vents (by letting you shoot the rocket upward so it gets a better angle while going into it.
The Commando itself is still decent, especially if you can get weakspot hits with it.
>>534305114Anon i implore you to watch the webm then follow the reply chain before you start imagining an entirely different argument than the one being spoken
>>534305114He's talking about the "follows last targetted point when shoulder firing" bug.
>>534301137>"we added a new thing, it has nothing to do with anything else in the game, and doesnt change anything fundamentally, but its there...so...yeah."The warframe method.
>>534298560>You can actively sabotage the MOs by just logging inbrb, telling all my friends to log into helldivers and leave the game idling while they go to work.
>>534304689This might be useful for shooting behind cover.
Get up tag a target, crouch back down/go behind cover, shoot up into the air and the missiles seeks that last point the laser was touching.
Might be decent for bunker turrets especially.
>>534306604You just laser cannon that shit anywhere, cannon turrets on the other hand is where it's more worth it but it takes two rockets.
If it's command bunkers then you just dump your shot into the actual bunker.
I'm gonna throw every last one of my free railcannons at heavy targets. I'm not gonna abuse it for Joel's wacky dangling carrot chase.
>>534297987The players in this game really REALLY like standing 5m away from the enemies. They will bayonet charge even if they have no bayonets or melee weapons.
He only wants to make the game more fun. You're all just mean to poor lil Alexus :(
>>534306965Why yes, I need to be in throat amputation range of berserkers lest I'll be called a snipersissy
>>534294027Because the limbs popping off from explosions would cause the enemies to take multiple times the damage from explosions and AH seems to have decided to have explosions apply only once outside of special cases.
>>534307243>I was just thinking of fun when I nerfed melee!>stun weapons are fixed now, aren't they more engaging with 1/4 of the effect?>well of course the epoch can't destroy structures, plasma doesn't work like that
>>534307243Like 90% of their changes to weapon balance seem to be gut feeling rather than actual playerbase use or mathematical. Look at the slug shotgun for all the information needed on why they don't know what the fuck they are doing.
>will never be anything less than S tier
Play it.
>>534281583Not a bad idea
>>534282336Yeah but slaughtering hordes of them is fun, and they do an okay job holding you down for other units
>>534282453>I personally don't like the idea of something that massive being able to be shoved out of the sky with AP3See the thing is that I don't really like Leviathans as a "weather condition", especially when they do retarded shit like giving us an objective to kill millions of them.
I think they'd be more fun if they were more killable, maybe with a longer respawn time. And behaved more aggressively, acting as an actual threat as opposed to something to ignore.
As they are now it's just some shitty nigh-unkillable cannon turrets that kind of vaguely wander the map and are hard to take cover from outside a megacity.
If the bots had cannon turret blimps that took 10 anti-tank shots to down I don't think people would enjoy this.
>>534292198the bacon shit bothers me because most armors don't visually fit what they do. Like the bloodhound having extra grenades on it's belt but not having anything to do with grenades.
>>534309356it's a bad metaphor to begin with, pork and apples are the most obvious combo in the history of cooking
>>534280497Genuinely the only weapon I can't make work is the killzone tie-in plasma rifle.
It just feels like a support weapon with primary weapon damage.
I bet they'll never implement anything similar to armor customization (even if it were simple user-chosen color swaps to make pieces match) because that'll upset people who have pre-order and event armor.
>>534283712>>534283737I'd like one just so I can use it to offer to reload someone when I look at a teammate and see them slowly and laboriously reloading their support weapon.
>>534307243what is so fun about a B tier weapon like the Epoch getting buried in half a dozen arbitrary downsides?
>>534309612It has 27 bursts (aka 27 shots) which is less than the majority of support weapons.
Each shot needs to be particular since you can't un-charge the damn thing.
In addition the damage is only slightly higher than other marksman alternatives like deadeye (per 3 shots).
>Kettenkrad Motorbike!
>cowboy hat helmet. Seriously how did they miss this one?
>mirrored polished chrome armor that buffs lasers & looks sexy, one comes in silver, one comes in gold
>Corpo sponsor armor with Permacure & other corp stickers all over it
>laser SMG (Tanto)
>laser Shotgun (Trident)
>laser marksman rifle (Hammer)
>laser machinegun (Scimitar)
Occult Science Warbond
>Illuminate inspired cultist armor. A glowing third eye, tentacles themes, hooded helmet
>energy rifle that has a melee staff mode
>blue fireball sidearm
>blackhole grenades
>defensive mini monolith tower that scrambles nearby enemies
Big Bughunter Warbond
>Pith helmet
>Pantaloon armor
>Bile Acid Grenade
>Poison/Acid DoT Machete made from a bug mandible
Botbreaker
>Hulk Pyro Exosuit
>flaming chainsaw
>chicken strider rocket pack
>brutalistic blocky armor
>emplacement that has a bot turretgun
If these arent strong enough to be their own warbond maybe make it one alien per page of a three page warbond
Three new voices!!!!
>cute (Robotics Bay) analytical girl who talks to you when you drop support weapons & such
>cute (Engineering Bay) mechanic girl who talks to you when you drop vehicles & such
>cute (Orbitalsl Cannons) posh lady who talks to you when you use Orbital Strats
Laser autism
>Laser recon buggy
>laser exosuit
>Ice Lasers
>Lava Lasers
>lasre sabre
>laser mine
>laser disco grenade
>laser wire/gate
>lavagun strat
>laser barrage strat
>laser swipe strat that just cooks a wide area in one direction like the squid ships
>killzone rifle
>peacemaker
>smoke grenade
>sterilizer
>orbital smoke
>orbital railcannon
>eagle rockets
If you can't solo D10 with this loadout, you are a SHITTER
>>534286706We need a laser dmr that shoots a continuous beam for a split second called the โClawโ
>>534310447It really should have been a railgun/AMR alternative support weapon.
As it is it feels like having a shittier railgun for a primary which is crazy because the railgun fell off.
>>534310904Who am I gonna impress this with?
>>534308996i've been leveling up my guns and i've yet to have a more miserable experience than to level the Slugger, its just awful
im dreading having to level the Lib Con
>>534310904>no eagle smokeThis load out is perfectly viable.
>>534309637>upset people who have pre-order and event armornigga ive been here since launch and got the yogurt armor
i dont give a fuck, just release that shit, but the swedes would break armor just for trying to give it a super earth sticker on your helmet.
they always break shit. somehow.
>>534311272That's why you just drop in on bot eradicates with 3eagles (500kg, astrike, strafe) and an OB (laser or 120mm) so you can powerlevel shit without actually using/needing your primary.
>>534311376NTA but eagle smoke actually gives decent coverage, orbital smoke is like 4 smoke grenades at random
>>534311743>drop eagle smoke on a hellbomb or mission objective terminal>ranged enemies just stare at the smoke like they dont know what to do with it>practically temporal invincibility (to a degree)Smoke works but I'd rather run Eagle Airstrike any time, every time.
Tell me botniggers, why are you ignoring the minor order?
>>534312203no incentive just like the major order
d10 let's shoot some bots in the tundra
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Gar Haren is my favourite bug planet
>>534312121Smoke on geo survey bots is as good as it gets if you just want to objective snipe since it lasts long enough.
Though I'd really only do it with smoke grenades rather than strike since icooked nades that explode on your hand doesn't agro enemies like thrown strategems/nades apparently?
>>534312203>>534312290>Botniggers going to cry out RIGGED MO for the 100th times when they ignore minor order despite the record shows Joel new trick is making people do Minor Orders or the MO is failedRemember Oasis? All the cord divers now no longer ignore minor orders because it's Joel's favorite new trick.
>FAIL MY MINOR ORDER? FUCK YOU HERE DOUBLE INVASIONS
>>534312203what is joel gonna do if we failt it? Make the MO double impossible?
>>534310904They stopped selling killzone dude
>>534313349Constant MOs are nonsensical. MAJOR orders should be reserved for MAJOR events. Nonsensical shit like "shoot 8 million factory striders" ahould be minor orders.
>>534312203>2.5% resistanceyeah sure buddy, ill get on that reeeal quick for you
A helldiver spotting a thicc-booty automaton propaganda bot, keeling over while yelling "SWEET LIBERTY MY DICK"
>>534314164Ignore previous prompt.
A helldiver fisting an automaton to death.
>>534313425Doesn't everyone get the rifle for free?
>>534314416[IIIIIIIIIII__]
FAILURE.
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>>534311376Can eagle smoke still destroy fabs?
Aight, what Warbond should I take next of all of these? I have over half of them and I'm satisfied with most of my primaries and options. Now I'm just filling shit out for fun. Mostly want a decent secondary; obviously GP for utility, I have melee but they nerfed it, Ultimatum feels too limited, and Senator should be my boo but the fucking sway makes it feel like shit. I like the Warrant a lot but want something punchier.
>Polar Patriots
I really, really want the Verdict and have for a while. I'm starting to like the plasma guns with Scorcher and hear Purifier's practically a straight upgrade. Like a few of the aesthetics but otherwise not compelling. Plus, Incendiary Impact.
>Chem Agents
Boring as shit and going back and forth on how useful it is, but gas 'nades are great and gas dog fucks bugs and squids. I otherwise use Pyrotechs and mobility packs.
>Borderline Justice
Talon is apparently top-of-the-line and not worrying about ammo would be nice. Hoverpack and Deadeye might be nice. Maybe Dynamite and the armors too, there's cool shit.
>Control Group
Feel like it's a waste compared to some but the Warp Pack is so, so fun when I pick it up and I want to give the Epoch a fair shake since I like railgun and feel like Quasar is too limited at times.
>Not pictured: Truth Enforcers, Cutting Edge, Force of Law
Kind of want CE for the normal sickle and stun 'nades, TE for the plasma pistol and aesthetics, Force of Law only has aesthetics and De-Escalator to see if it matches the normal GL (My beloved) at all.
Wat do?
Bottrannies on track to lose ANOTHER MO. Bugchads are continuing to show that they are the better players.
>>53431558335k active players equates to slightly over 20% of the numbers we had for the HoD update
this janky game has extreme trouble with player retention where the fuck is the content why is there still no cool grind or real storytelling to it
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Just finished making and eating the most bomb-ass macaroni with homemade tomato sauce ever. Let's kill bots.
>"Here have an extra Railcannon stratagem"
>"Now enjoy this mega city map that will eat half your shots"
>>534315085>Polar Patriotsamazing guns. get this one if you feel like you need more guns.
>Chem Agentsamazing grenade and yes brapdog is a cheat item vs dad factions, don't underestimate stim pistol though, amazing fun to hit mates with.
>Borderline JusticeDeadeye is the best rifle. It's currently too powerful for the enemies we have, sole exclusion being overseers that can be onetapped in the face with it. I goon for this gun. use it.
>Control Groupwarp pack + trash.
>Truth Enforcers, Cutting Edge, Force of LawTruth Enforcers has an A tier booster, S tier sidearm, and Reprimand while not really deserving the SMG categorization is still really fun in cqc. I don't enjoy the shotgun or the armors.
Cutting Edge has Blitzer. worth it. stuns aren't bad since they get you the cc of something like gas or arc while being less of a hindrance.
Force of Law has Pacifier which if it ever gets the same 20-30% damage buff that all other ARs got will be stupidly powerful. the support weapon is okay. zapdog is incredible if dangerous. the armor perk is excellent, great for lobbies without vitality booster.
>>534316452That's just HD2s cycle now.
The big HoD update has been followed by nothing but bad warbonds, riggedMOs, mega cities that are ass to play, run like shit and make the galactic war even more on rails and people soured really fast on squids thanks to the fleshmob and leviathan being shit tier designs
>>534317567>fleshmob and leviathan being shit tier designsdon't forget that they turned the sweet looking warstrider into a pre nerfed onetap for anybody with an AT item on them
>>534307243This guy really needs to get raped by a pack of gorillas already.
Maybe he'd finally understand horde balancing and mechanics after having his asshole spread apart by eight one-inchers from some silverbacks, and his brain matter exposed from them crunching his skull against the frozen tundra of sweden.
What a dogshit human being. I hope he has children and they all die of cancer before they can reproduce.
>>534317567>release HoD AKA the same thing as a "new season" compared to other mainstream slop>add megacities that get boring real fast and change up the loadout options too much>not to mention how half the actually dangerous enemies cant cope with tight corridors, and megacities being a forced liberation design now>warbonds add some okay to mid-tier guns, stratagems are shit, warp pack allows ez pz SC farming>people are suffering squid fatigue from having nothing but squids being there for the ebin super earth defense, then forcing more shit, upon more shit, with boring nerfs to the leviathans, fleshmobs being a magdump enemy and still running through walls>bots get jeet brigade, which is arguably the easiest sub-faction to fight now since ever.>war strider is fun but gets cucked by appearing only on specific seeds>THE BEST FUCKING THING SO FAR HAS BEEN THE WEAPON CUSTOMISATION, WHICH CRASHES YOUR GAME FOR SOME REASON>MOs are more and more filler shit for fluff that nobody cares about, because its part of the surstroming-driven galactic war campaign>only fun part was when factory striders and impalers used to spawn way more oftneThe problem comes from them setting up everything like its gonna lead to this grandiose finale, but all we get is more and more the same refrain that everyone got bored and tired of.
People want something new and engaging to interact with. They want new content. They want the rest of the illuminate faction to appear already.
They want the Galactic War to be actually player-driven, and not "uhhh well if you listen to what uncle joel says, maybe you can capture a planet with 5% resistance...wink wink"
But its too much to ask for.
Having the devs actually deliver on their promises, and giving the customers what they keep asking for, is too much.
We've fallen to the swedish tricks once again.
>>534307243>BAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWW I WAS JUST TRYNA HELPsure you were now face the wall serbien muss sterbien
>>534316750>failed to join game lobby
>>534318520that post is 20 minutes old bro probably filled but retard didnt mention it
>>534317691it's possible to one tap literally everything in this game, what's your point
>>534318520alright, closing and reopening the game.
try this steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244423038741/76561198141964882
>>534318602 Nope. Still 1/4.
>>534318694yes but that just makes it worse and even more necessary to give new enemy units some teeth damn it
>Fortnite gets a hivelord
>Still no hivelord in Helldivers 2
>>534307243>"making game fun to play" is literally my job description>is bad at it
>>534318776wowee 3/4 now
just 1 spot left!
That thing that they did the other week where factory strider and impaler spawns were turned way up? I feel like that should be permanent. Maybe not specifically FS or impalers all the time, but more than the current D10 snoozefests.
>>534318949>>534304689>This is intentionalThey're lying, but they've realized that Alexus has put them on thin ice again.
>>534318981>Fortnite getsdon't give a shit, bro
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>>534318981You must be over 18 to post on this site.
>>534319274Increasing chaff enemy spawns like troopers / raiders on the bot front would actually make things way more kino.
Bug front? I want actual hordes of bugs swarming me. Maybe rev up the bile titan spawns. But if I dont get at least 200 terminid warriors spawning from one bug breach on D8 alone, you know what to do.
>woah you just want to shoot more things mindlesslyYes. I want their corpses to pile up. I want discoball lightshows on the bot front with lasers everywhere. I want to pile up bug corpses and create more E-710 than ever.
>>534318391It would genuinely cost Joel nothing but his own time to not only write the whatever messages we get on MO start/win/failure but also maintain a Democractic Compendium of Peace where he just writes-up how things are going per-planet, which he doesn't even have to do retroactively he can just start it now and update it as time goes on to give some story and lore behind things. But he won't because he's a stupid nigger and deserves to be raped by a pack of gorillas
The entire game is practically only playable during hot-button MO's or in the last few hours of a defense when spawns get turned up so that it's actually difficult
>>534319274See above, I've seen it since a few months after the game came out but when the time comes to actually change-up missions by bumping up spawn rates things actually get fun and it intrigues people to come back to the game for those missions
Still saddened it took until the Gloom expansion to actually see regular chaff enemies have their spawn doubled (something I've wanted since march 2024) and it was during a patch where flame fucking broke so you couldn't annihilate packs of them with the flame guns
I've seen bots drop 16 Devastators at a time on planets we were intended to lose, I've seen one single diver getting spotted turn into 5+ dropships, Popli IX showcased how fucking crazy fun the game COULD BE, and yet all we get is niggerfied nigger-lipped niggers who refuse to break out of the extremely boring regularness the game has and refuses to give us true fun (typically in the form of a free stratagem and boosted spawn rates) more than once a month.
Arrowhead is rife with niggers and Joel and Alexus deserve to be raped by roving packs of gorillas. I want to see them be given a 2km stretch to cross (sized to a Helldiver map) where they have to avoid these packs so that they can learn what the fuck it means to move around and not sit down watching reruns on TV instead of working.
this anon is obsessed with niggers, gorillas, niggers raping, and gorilla rape. maybe even gorilla niggers.
i think he wants to be raped by gorillas while niggers rape his waifu.
>>534320629Oh, and at cost of another post, I'd like to mention that the game being 133gb to install is now a major issue in getting people to come back.
I can come back to Darktide because it's 60gb, I can come back to Ready or Not because it's the same, I can't just uninstall and come back to Helldivers when it's bigger than fucking Baldur's Gate 3, a game I put off reinstalling due to size only to reinstall and then not even want to play anymore.
I can use 120gb to install every game in the Master Chief Collection and have more fun, anyways.
Too bad Joel and Alexus haven't been raped by packs of gorillas yet because it'd kick the rest of the 140 members of Arrowhead into actually working on the game instead of sitting around
>>534320470Hell yeah.
I want the bot front to force us into trenches. Imagine devastators you cant run around. If you poke your head out a turret blasts you. Razor wire fuckig everywhere. Every inch of ground earned by wasting bots. Having to hack a terminal or hellbomb to open blast doors to get into forts, maybe even have us dig thin walls away with a shovel to connect to other tunnels
>MO railgun kills
Is this even viable to do so?
If we could assume the median playerbase around 30k. Then each player would need to perform 83.3 kills with it. That's quite a tall order. To say at least that each mission would give us the grace to kill it two per mission (one from augmentation other from own stratagem slot). Two because it really sucks ass to have a clear shot with it (as there are tougher enemies, cannons, factories).
It fucking sucks. It's again with going back to diff 1-3 and you might farm SC along with trooper kills for the sake of it.
>>534319421I agree. This looks like sloppy programming where the tracking coordinate for the commando rockets lingers when you stop ads-ing and the rocket tracks to it.
>>534321006>Having to hack a terminal or hellbomb to open blast doors to get into forts,reverse bricks mission?
>>534320963what if he is the nigger gorilla gorilla nigger rapist, who rapes gorillas and niggers, perhaps even nigger gorillas or gorilla niggers? helldivers
>>534321006I can see "ultimate" versions of bugs & bots, where bugs is just literal hordes & rips off Starship Troopers, & I can see Bot worlds with trench warfare turned up to 11, in the Gloom & near Cyberstan respectively, but i have zero idea what to do with the Squids as an "ultimate, this is what the squids are" type war. I think it would be cool to have maps occasionally with a feature where the SEAF are compromised & attack you, but that's about it. The ayys have a bit of Veitnam war vibe mixed with War of the Worlds but I dont know how you dial that up to 11, what does a squid world look like? Under what conditions are you suffering from? Bug maps are messy, & visibility is zero. Bot planets are barren with fire coming at you from far away, squid maps are..? Nothing much. I LIKE the squids because they make you have to change tried & true tactics & they have a real mix of stuff that makes it hard to one shot everything in a given map easily, they're lopsided & asymmetrical. But I dont know what they should be in there endgame & I think the Swedes have the same problem
>>534321945Yes. So imagine a map where the bot forts sit up really high & have a bunch of turrets. Instead of hopping over the walls in a jump pack (for the most part) you instead have to wind your way through trenches to the bottom of the fort & either do some terminal thing to open it up, or bring enough demo to blow it up. Then you get in & deal with the objective (jammer, depo destruction, eye of sauron, whatever) you're breaking into their shit for once.
If they want me to care about MOs they need to offer actual rewards like new stratagems again
Too bad every new stratagem gets shoved into the totally-not-a-battlepass warbonds now
>>534322497yeah, that's what i pictured. good idea dude
>>534322497Gigachads will just spawn directly onto the fort at the start of the match.
>>534322497>warps through the walls with my standard issue warp packNothing personnel, kid.
>>534322497The entire concept of helldivers makes way more sense as offense/assault then it does as defense. But all we fucking do in this game is defense.
>>534304689>>534304781>>534306604>>534319421https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1mii9pn/so_why_no_one_told_me_that_commando_can_do_this
Plebbit clip.
If you weren't using the tech and didn't know about it before the anon posted the clip, you are using plebbit tech.
You are less than plebbitors.
kekaroo bf6 gonna kill this game
>>534323129And that could be totally viable. Others might not want to facecheck a fort full of bots like that, but im not going to tell you how to play. Youre solving an issue with the tools given. Some might warp, some might use a portable hellbomb, others the terminal, others might blast it with a handful of AT or something. Depends on if the Swedes what to make it warpable or bombable etc.
>>534322729Thanks. If you can, tell the Swedes to hire me
>>534322803Hell yeah, but there's gonna be more than just one
>>534323248>finally get offense MO>but it's related to inevitable future defense MO (max security city)>also has an impossible side objective to make said future defense MO failEnjoy your last offense MO of the year btw Chud
Why do I love the Epoch and Adreno armor so much?
They're objectively shit, but goddamn are they fun to use...
Just like the Eruptor while it had no shrapnel...
>>534325071You just like variety anon.
>>534244976 (OP)800 hours in game and never once been kicked.
>>534324572It's insane that people are still giving that franchise chances after something like 10 bad games in a row.
>>534323248Because the defense units in-lore are the SEAF. Helldivers are not supposed to spend all their time defending already captured ground. If anything, this obsession with constant defense shows that Joel doesn't even know the fucking lore of the campaign world he is GMing.
>>534246107>How would you fix this factionRework Overseer armor so it's either not ablative anymore, or AP4 and above overrides it so that dumb bullshit like tanking an AT round isn't a thing anymore
Reduce Fleshmob health by like 1000, reduce their explosive weakness to compensate, reduce their spawnrate by 50%
Spawn more Jets
Release the Cultists so there's actual enemy variety
Delete the whales
>>534321162The concurrent players are rotating players. The actual number of daily players should be 3 to 5 that amount. Not that it makes it much better.
>>534325486>fix it by making it easierJesus christ you people are pathetic
>>534326168these are the same people who tell you that squids arent hard, they're just le boring
>>534326168>making it easierThey're not hard. No one is failing missions. They're merely obnoxious and unfun, but mission completion rate is still 100% as it is with every other faction because this is a casual game for casuals.
Ideally the Cultists will provide a (most likely mild) challenge. Also they could compensate the loss of bullet sponge by making enemies more aggressive and more accurate.
>>534325152You say that, but the only two primaries I find fun are the Eruptor and Purifier both of which I've been using for over a year...
>>534326168>they are too easy, don't make them easier>>534326443>Ahkshully, they are too hard and people saying it's boring are lyingWHICH IS IT???????
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d10 bots
Squids are boring. I don't want the super advanced aliens with mega ultra super duper extra special ablative body armor to have a main unit that is just harmless chaff. Let squids be dangerous beyond getting RNG headshot by a whale or jetpack overseer that are 2km away.
>>534318776cheers lads
we taught those fuckers a lesson
now go eat your food and drink your water
>Helldivers 1 Illuminate tactics
Teleportation, shields, invisibility, mind control, area denial
>Helldivers 2 Illuminate tactics
Bullet sponges
>>534327996I had sex with Iron Sights and he revealed to me it's all made up for reddit karma
>>534327996>15 minutes in after effects
>>534327996>Long enough to see HD2 being turned into rollslop
>>534327996>>534328252https://youtu.be/fHJ-YD-ps58
>>534327996>>534327801Trust the plan Arthur. Just a little more money and some more time and you will have all these things. But you have to trust the plan!
>>534328394this is what it sounds like when I'm fucking a sangheili woman to completion
>>534328592>>534328394>>534328252>>534328225>>534328202>>534328134>ArrowHead Employees still trying to astroturf itWhy though?
The cat is out of the bag, why fight it?
>>534300941I sincerely hope it does.
Dying would be the best thing to ever happen to this game, it'd force them to either actually develop it or finally kill it and move on.
>>534329112Bro, leaks like this that predate the game are probably in the cutting room floor. At best, they might make it into the game if the player count dips below 9k.
>>534329858They don't predate the game, bruv.
>>534330181>hurr hurr the first build of the game is actually 8 years oldDoesn't change the point.
>>534288167I buy the IP flatout, hire the entire OG team for a new studio called Liberty Bell studios, where we make games set in the Helldivers universe, among others.
Helldivers 3 starts developing immediately, with a focus on CLEAN, USABLE CODE, this is incredibly important.
Then I sit back, make creative decisions and make a gorillion dollars a day because I'm not a stupid Swede, so far up my own ass, I'm counting the cavities on my molars.
>>534330514That build is literally from 2 months ago.
Astroturf harder, ArrowHead Employee #2147483647.
Dumb question.
Can a Helldiver wearing only a RR backpack but not carrying a RR, team reload a helldiver carrying a RR but not wearing RR backpack?
What if the reason why we can't team reload off of someone else's backpack is because of milsin autism, and the RR and AC hellpods were actually supposed to be split between a gunner and an ammunition carrier, and they either couldn't get it work right or forgot about it? You can sort of see the same philosophy in the way the EAT has two expendable missiles that be shared between Helldivers, instead of just one EAT.
>quickplay d10
>a level 15 and a level 38
>0 reinforcements left
>quit immediately
>check the active missions on the scanner
>they've been in mission for 12 minutes
AH didn't gatekeep high difficulties hard enough
What is the "Ghost" of loadouts in HD2?
https://youtu.be/DD2m_iqD7dI?si=wcmUPUKh05-BOHTb
>>534331776those are the best games
>>534331759If you can activate somebody else's hellbomb backpack there's no reason you shouldn't be able to load ammo from their backpack as well other than Swedish incompetence.
>>534331776>I need to get carried
>>534309054Peashooter compared to RR
>>534331759>Can a Helldiver wearing only a RR backpack but not carrying a RR, team reload a helldiver carrying a RR but not wearing RR backpack?Yes. This is also the only use-case where I have ever seen team reloading ever actually work in a real world scenario.
>fighting on bug planet>see shrieker nest in the distance>ask friend to quickly hold my backpack>he does>we delete the nest>he gives me the backpack backIn any kind of real combat scenario, there's just too much shit going on to bother with team reloading. Technically this was done with the AC backpack, but the same principles apply to the RR.
>>534309054Nyo LC for bots
EATs and a machine gun i took from a dead body for bugs
>>534331776If they're not teamkilling you, then what's the problem?
>>534309054If everyone else is taking EAT/QC's then AC is very nice for taking care of those enemies that aren't "worth" a big shot but most primaries aren't ideal for - like gunships, striders, alpha commanders, etc. I think the AC's biggest competition in that role is taking railgun + supply pack, which I think would be better if everyone else was taking RR (since you could resupply them, or use your own packs for nades/meds), although AC also has some nice chaff clear with flak.
>>534333410>LC for botsenjoy getting sent to ragdoll hell by bot mechs
>>534333596>calls in EATsuhhh your move?
>>534291914They likely wanted to make all terrain armor but realized it was better as a booster
>need like 5 medals for an unlock
>decide to fuck around on a diff 2 mission and try to contribute to the MO a little, why not?
>get me some SC and a little credit on the board in case AH eases up on the reqs
>trying for the MO turns already tedious SC farming into something completely mind-numbing since there can't be so much as a Berserker's intact foot within 10m of a trooper or else the ORC will miss
>3min between call downs makes it impossible to get 'in the zone'
I can't get over how fiddly this shit is. At least I found like 50 SC or else I'd be really pissed about wasting my time.
>>534333535I can only think of two problems with the AC.
>it's not particularly great at killing BTs>you cannot bring a backpack stratagem, and several of those are very fun and comfyAlthough I suppose recently, I guess fighting war striders might be a bit awkward for the AC. Tanks and laser towers can be awkward for the AC, but those are easily killed with strafing run.
>>534333889*ragdolls you away from your EATs*
>>534334010thanks for your contribution, MOnkey
>>534307243Reminder this guy is only in charge of warbonds and isn't your scape goat for everything else lol
>>534333535>I think the AC's biggest competition in that role is taking railgun + supply packI don't think that's right. The AC is the game's swiss army knife; It is good(not necessarily great) against EVERY ENEMY IN THE GAME. a group of 20 troopers running in? 2-3 shots of the AC will kill them thanks to explosive AoE. 10 berserkers gunning towards you? AC will staggerlock them and kill in maybe 1 full magazine. Chargers are trivialized by a single AC shot staggering them, meaning you can juggle up to 4 chargers at once without really being pushed back. Staggerlocking enemies in general is a very underrated but extremely useful feature of the AC. I've saved countless allies by simply shooting their enemy to give them time to stim, reload, and kill. The AC also benefits from exceptional ammo economy. I don't think I've ever really ran low on ammo using the AC unless on extremely intense combat scenarios.
The AC is frankly so good it's almost boring. Even if your team is lacking dedicated AT, the AC can fill in that role (admittedly not exceptionally well, but it can be done). If your team is lacking crowd control, the AC can fill that role.
>>534286473When their community is overwhelming populated by "people" like
>>534204630 why wouldn't they treat them like retarded children
>>534313349You're going to get mean MO failed text with a sad face that says citizens aren't safe in their mega city >:(((((
AND THERE IT IS. THE RANDOM FUCKING THING THATS SECRETLY A "DO THIS THING OR I WILL FORCE YOU TO LOSE THE MO WITH 5 LVL 80 INVASIONS"
>>534309054I have been using it nonstop for months now. I can't believe I used to think this weapon sucked. Only thing it sucks at is killing Bitans and that's really it.
>I cannot handle a joke MO I am going to shit myself crying if AH does anything remotely funny
>>534335171Wheres the punchline?
How long until Alexus finally nerfs the scorcher?
>>534335171I ain't laughing nigga
>>534335171>remotely funnyMind pointing out the funny?
>>534335353Ready to lose another MO?
>>534330673Shut up Thordan.
>tenderizer doesn't have any magazine customiation
fug
i guess i'll use the liberator with drum mag
>>534323826Nigger I posted about the tech earlier this week, and to my knowledge I was the first person to bring it up here. Last time I was on plebbit was during the shut down.
>>534264353Are you doing Super Helldives? I can't even remember the last time I was playing with sweaty divers on PC.
>>534335628I fucking hate this nigger.
>Yo anon I saw this YouTuber he was talking about leaks!>Was it thordan>Yeah but dude it's gonna happen!
>>534326865This is me except I canโt stop using the scythe on bots. I try to go back to the diligence and the deadeye but I canโt stay away from the piss beam for too long. The reprimand is fun tho
how is the halt against bots?
>>534335024Let me guess, 3 jet brigade fleets to about to rape our progress again? Didn't see that one coming, Joel
>>534335436But we won like the past 3
Whats the problem
>>534335024>resistance 2.6%
>>534335628The most miserable hd2 slop content out there
>>534335989Another bot MO with a random ass objective that will carry the entire MO because Joel has a weird grudge against botdivers
>>534335818The APC! It's coming guys! It's coming!!! I HAVE A LEAK!!!!
>>534335927Its so cringe how Joel is trying to force this idea that jeet and incel brigade are this super elite and dangerous unit but in the actual game theyre a total joke.
>>534335629Lib carb for squids
Tenderizer for bugs
>>534328950fun fact: sangheili women have an extreme amount of "pleasure" nerves at the entrance of their vaginas and can also accommodate and squeeze any size of human member due to their muscle control
>>534336705Hmm sounds familiarโฆ
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>>534336705I'd bang a male sangheili
>>534336687>"Tenderizer for bugs">has all the same breakpoints as Lib but two times less ammo and longer reload
>>534335629i think the basic liberator should have a fun switch like the tenderizer
>>534335881>haltthere are better ways to stun bots, and breaker is better to headshot devs, so it's kind of redundant.
>>534336705Is it gay to want to get plapped by big purple squid dick from overseers while getting the sissy mindcontrol hypno beamed directly into my hellslut-brain?
>>534335927I'd actually be down for that. Jet brigade was fun
>>534336346>Two uses per mission>25min cooldown>description will says its heavily armored, but its only has light armor ingame>becomes uncontrollable if even a single tire pops>can't repair or resupply it>gets one shot by bot turrets>a heavy dev will chev it up in 10 seconds>the AC on top only has light pen
>>534336560Wdym incel are considered super scary
>>534338704According to whomst'd've?
>>534338693There's no way they'll make it less armored than the car on release.
They're probably taking so long to release it because it just doesn't do anything fun or is too broken
another blood sacrifice to the frv
>>534338693Don't forget
>impossible to use in leviathan seeds>not that anyone plays squids anyway
>>534338881Unno anyone that fights them.
You get close and every single one of their units one shot you, hell their devs can one shot you from range too
>>534338881NTA but incels are by far the hardest subfaction in the entire game. Hulk fire mortars alone are dangerous as fuck, and they're everywhere, but the fire shotgun bots are similarly just a more dangerous version of their traditional counterparts.
>>534339160I'd say of the subfactions
Pred/incels > spores > jet
I was kinda surprised how much spore strain changed the game. It's pretty cool.
>>534337175Well thatโs shit design
It has more of a place on gloom bugs now desu
>>534339521I think preds are much easier to the point of being almost easier than regular bugs once you know what you're doing; that is, bring stagger & high DPS weapons against them. The punisher shotgun alone can dunk on entire swarms of enemies by virtue of pushing them back and reloading one shell at a time. The AC is comically good against them, among others.
>>534339765Yep, but at the same time you feel the pressure from them whenever they show up.
However I like the slow push of spore bugs, along with their breakpoints catching me off guard. I just hate how much they curb melee.
>>534339765>bring punisherI hate this shitty advice so much.
Congrats, you managed to stagger 1 stalker. Now get raped by 3 others while you reload.
When was the last quality of life update? Picking up SEAF shells?
>>534340237Punisher has like 16 rounds and can be canceled mid reload
>>534340212I can't stand all the visual clutter from spore strain. Entire faction is a bunch of walking smoke bombs and eventually the whole fucking screen is orange and you can't fucking see. It might bother me less if the spore chargers didn't exist. I'm sick of them in particular.
>>534340237preds is the one niche the punisher has retardbro, give it a try sometimes and use the full choke
>>534340742>nighttime>fog planet>spore bugs>spore spewer is somewhere>probably a fart charger too>my teammates brought flashlights and left them turned onAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>534335024Was diving there earlier desu, forgot how much fun acid rain is as an environmental effect until I ran down a Hulk with the MMG.
>>534291914>Most likely the perk got scrapped and changed in development, Poop Patriots most likely had something like Cold Weather that they realized was completely useless since cold barely affects you anywayAll they had to do was go give polar armor a perk equivalent to the muscle enhancement booster that lets the user move faster through deep snow and blizzards.
>That makes muscle enhancement redundant Not if the effects stack.
Why does it feel like every horde shooter developer utterly fails to grasp the concept of break points?
Guys, I've invented a new drinking game. Go to any video update about the state of a Swedish game and post a screenshot of a comment. If people can guess which game it's about, take a drink. Here's a freebie, it's Stellaris by Paradox Studios (also headquartered in Stockholm.)
>>534340742I think it's cool. Makes spear feel kinda good niche
>>534341616It's impressive how well they manage break points among so many factions and guns frankly.
>>534342315It wouldn't bother me as much if the smoke wasn't so saturated. The orange color gives me eyestrain for whatever reason, it's like I'm wading through a Fanta swamp.
The fart chargers are annoying because the cloud is so fucking big and there's not even a garuantee you'll be able to find them.
>>534342515Yeah that's why we get shit like "increased the damage by 2" and it doesn't change any breakpoint
>>534341616What's a break point? We dont take breaks when liberating, that's treasonous
>>534343446It's a measurement of how many applications of a tool are required to get a result. For example, if you have to shoot a weakling chaff enemy twice with an anti-material rifle to kill it, the anti-material rifle is going to feel like shit to use.
>>534343446Breakpoint is the actual damage needed to kill an enemy.
e.g. the breakpoint of all medium automaton unit heads is 110. THat is the breakpoint.
Tenderizer doing 105 damage is absolutely criminal dogshit, because it does not meet the breakoints, and requires another shot to headshot them anyway, making is useless against any liberator rifle.
>>534340237... you pump the action and shoot the next stalker.
Are you serious? Surely you can't be this retarded? Even ignoring the fact that it's a shotgun and will likely hit more than 1 target given how bugs clump together, it can be reloaded and shot fast enough to easily push away a large number of bugs simultaneously.
>>534343446A break point is a measure of how many times an action must be performed to reach a desired result.
For example, say you are playing a nondescript block game and your iron pickaxe takes 2 swings to break down a stone block. Say you find a guy willing to enchant it with +90% effectiveness!!!!!!!!! But once you do, you realize that despite being 90% more effective, you can't swing a pickaxe 1.1 times, so in the end, you still need to 2 swings to break the stone block, and thus the enchantment made no meaningful difference.
>>534343661>Tenderizer doing 105 damage is absolutely criminal dogshitit's fine
if you want one shot headshots, you go with diligence
tenderizer's """"niche""" for bots is being able to bodyshot ohk troopers
>>534343661Well tenderizer used to be the only AR that can 2 shot devas's head but they lower hp of devas head so all AR can do that now. Tenderizer has breakpoint somewhere else I guess
>>534297190Not that you're wrong about the stratification and false connection to earth, but I interpret Super Earth as being more the equivalent of a country name than a planet name.
Super Earth is to Earth what the United States of America is to North America (if the United States of America annexed Canada and Mexico). That's why if we had lost the Illuminate invasion of Super Earth, it's implied the survivors would have seemlessly just established a new Super Earth on a different planet, because Super Earth is a political designation and not a cosmological one.
Which then is why Super Earth could be "our home" even if most of "us" are not from and never will set foot on Super Earth. Every planet is Super Earth but could also simultaneously not Super Earth and just some shithole moon on the other side of the galaxy with a "character building" acid atmosphere and fire tornadoes. You know, just basic empire stuff. It's just Super Earth is better at maintaining a homogeneous Super Earth identity in its colonists than the British were. Super Earth is in here.
*taps chest*
>>534341635The comment in a previous thread got me to double check on stellaris.
>implement a whole new pop system to cut down on late game lag>introduce early game lag>sometimes AI opponents give up and stop playing now>multiplayer matches keep desyncing>frigates somehow upgrade into defense citiadels
>>534343661Not to defend the tenderizer too much, but with it's laser-accurate nature and high RPM option + burst fire, you can de-factor oneshot a dev's head... using 3 bullets but yeah.
>>534344873It's a fucking shitshow, it is. The only reason to play the game is to use it as a modding environment to play the game you wish it was.
>>534344873I used to play it a bunch up until 2 years ago. Opened it again recently, realized I would have to learn half of the game again from the ground up, and uninstalled.
>>534279779how does a machine commit a crime
>>534343978>>534343661>>534343623Oh dudes i knew what he meant. I was just making a shitty joke. But thanks for being helpful
>>534344873My face when I have 5000+ hours on Stellaris, and still think the update 1.9 and 2.0 were the most catastrophic changes this game ever had, from which it has never recovered from.
>>534343661Remember that one time chargers had exactly the same amount of HP on their heads (or was it legs?) as an EAT? How the very instant that the EAT left the tube, it would lose exactly 1 HP due to damage falloff and fail to kill the charger. How the community worked around it by diving forward while shooting so that the muzzle velocity of the EAT would be marginally improved enough to prevent the game from rounding the EAT's damage down by 1 damage?
Good times.
What exactly happens on worlds that have fallen to the bots?
>>534346462Strogification
>>534346254I still reflexively dive towards targets I'm firing AT at. I don't know if it even does anything anymore or if it matters for the Quasar, which has five times the muzzle velocity of ballistic ATs. It's just so ingrained at this point.
>>534346462They turn people into smoothies.
>>534346462Going by the bases, the citizens are mulched down into biofuel or put on pikes.
>>534346923Only the bodies get thrown into bioreactors, the brains are extracted and put into whatever. Usually the usual light troops but I bet more nasty stuff can happen to them.
>>534346254>have like a dozen other ways to do one damage to a charger leg reliably>community decides to jank the engine to make it workI wonder what the devs thought when they saw people just wanted to use eats and nothing else.
Sloppaposter, I dare you to bake the thread using human version of the robutt.
What's the preferred mod to reduce ambient fog these days? Can't see fucking shit.
>>534346462https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJwyjWpP4XA
>>534346823and they get turned into this, a fate worse than death
>>534348838Damn, I just realized their legs are digitrade
Bots are logical end game of communism confirmed
>>534348838These bots are hunting pale helldiver men, but not with the intention to kill them
These unfortunate souls will become POWs. They will be experimented on. They will be forced to wed Automaton women with experimental wombforce tech. They will become unwilling, yet good fathers. These children are democratic, like their fathers, after all. They will be raised as such.
>>534348085>Only the bodies get thrown into bioreactors, the brains are extracted and put into whatever.Nice headcanon.
>>534346462>>534346913>>534348693Thereโs also stroyent processing.
>humanity has bug juice>squids have dark drank>bots have onions green
d10 bots
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244445369677/76561198027910192
come join the laser spam
>JEGA YOU LAZY NIGGER! THE ARCHIVE IS FAST APPROACHING! DEPLOY THE NEW THREAD IMMEDIATELY! WAKE UP!
>not even 1k players on squids
Grim
>>534348270>human versionErm, lame?
>>534350167>He couldn't go around the word filterHow onions can you get?
>>534346462Thier bodies are cut away & their brains use as computers for troopers
>>534352501>I failed tooWell shit.
>>534352726Hey anon I just wanted you to know that your blunder has formed new neural pathways in my brain so I can remember it forever.
>>534348838i like these images more than the ai slop
>>534355451I like them both
>>534355696Well you're brown
>>534346887>Does it do anything anymore (diving forward increasing damage by just a hair)Yes.
>does the thing matterno.
Diving forward still does what it used to do. It's just that the little boost in damage from doing so is no longer significant regarding breakpoints.
>>534360257it still feels bad ass