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Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-4
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

-The New Game
>https://deltarune.com

-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
>https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

-Merch
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>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune

-Books
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-Legends of Localization - Undertale
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-Extra Content
>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com
>https://undertale.com/alarmclock
>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/

-Undertale/Deltarune Text Dumps & Screenshots
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-Undertale Image Collections
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-Booru (newly resurrected, please help tag)
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-Comicbin
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I’m winging my ding RIGHT NOW!

i am glad we agree pedophilia is bad no matter who does it and who gets diddled.

>>534289289
wing gaster, the royal scientist
he made the core

>>534289190 (OP)
Gote thwead!!

Toby fox telling the players escapism is bad after being obsessed about the dream for decades

If I make a fan game about blue soul, what do you want to see?

>>534289190 (OP)
Based edition!

>>534289414
>Bad faith reading of the work

I should make a Mike styled corkboard about why Ralsei was trying to save Susie by trying to have her in take the role "the Girl" from the prophecy

>>534289479
>should I make a schizotheory for everyone to read
Is this even a question brother?

>>534289416
a finished game that doesn't suck ass

>>534289479
if its really schizo, then i strongly advise you to do it.

>>534289416
Tell me your premise

>>534289479
i had fun making my corkboard. i recommend

>>534289459
I've read people say unironically that

>>534289416
At this point it needs to be at least at the quality of Undertale Yellow for anyone to really take notice of it.

>>534288775
Susie and Kris are absolutely similar and that's definitely a part of why Noelle is so attracted to her
The big difference is that Susie isn't a mega-autist who makes it unclear whether she even likes hanging out with you (her mega-autism shows itself in different ways)

>>534289479
DO IT, EMBRACE THE SCHIZOPILL

>>534289182

Because society hates it when women and litle boys have fun because no woman is interested in those puritans. That being said I can't emphasize enough it's only okay when woman+shota all other forms are bad and people who commit those deserve the a toaster in their bathtub.

Reminder that this is a real dialogue from the game and that Noelle canonically wants to be raped

i'm drunk post susie i need susie

>>534289905
seconding this I want sooz

>>534289660
Where do I start?
Should I make bullet points of everything I noticed first?

>>534289416
the protagonist to be a 19-21 years old woman. she has sex with little monster boys.

>>534289905

>>534289905

>>534289905
>>534289973
DANGEROUS CREATURE

>>534289870
She's a total sub that wants to be manhandled by big tomboys, that much is true.

Tangerine and shota kraut

>>534289982
i think that's a good place to start yeah. i had mine in a big image file so i could move text around when i thought of something new

>>534289652
Ballerina girl who got denied the part she wanted decides to become a black swan event for the underground. past versions of certain characters, gaining new platformer skills for the soul, bullet deflecting, teenager with a sword.

>>534289870
She'd be really jealous of Ralsei if she learned Susie crushed him flat every chapter

>>534289992
>>534290001
>>534290024
AAAAAHHH, THE LIZZUR

>>534290106
i am not worried at all.
i am a natural woman repellent.

>>534290024
I will feed her chalk like a pocky stick

>>534290214
I hate and love how much Nelson made to look like Susie works

>>534289905
I need that bih

What does battat’s schizotheory making playlist look like?

susie faces doodles i did last night

>>534290540
cute lizur

>>534290540
FRSH SOOS
FROM A SNOOZ

I am genuinely interested in Dess subcommunity. What is your opinion on it?

>>534290540
Are you the drawfag who goes by the name Jelly? Somehow I remembered that name from the chapter 1 days

>>534290708
No

>>534290540
Horse is still going strong I see.

>>534290691
I do like all the art and other such things coming out of the small amounts we actually know about Dess. I like punky tomboy deers that get lost in the woods.

>>534290540
you really do draw a lot like jelly.
you should look up his stuff.

i love my boy ralsei

>>534290480
Starts with this
https://youtu.be/celKjeHQLpI

>>534290834
He's cute I guess but he isn't sooz

>>534290832
oh i know jelly, i've been in and out of the threads since undertale

>>534290834
cumbucket

>>534290931
What were these threads like before deltarune? I assume people just going full padded cell over sans

>>534290691
Who gives a shit? It's just Dessriel shippers and Chara Dess shit.

>>534290834
Daily cuddles with Ralsei and Susie!

>>534291001
The same, but you got smug suselle faggots shitposting freely while spamming kerdly shit to own the chuds.

>>534290131
>becoming a black swan event
hell yea Undertale Yellow was too wholesome for me, make your edgekino anon

>>534291036
What's wrong with Dessriel? It seems very plausible that they were together from all we know from the game.

>>534290895
>>534291085
susie posters are alright

>>534290691
don't like it a lot
Half are people with a basic ass fetish for a punk girl erasing any personality
The other half are lesbian tumblrinas self-inserting as her and wanting asriel to be trans
And the rest are the molester headcanon people

>>534291140
There is nothing wrong with that, I am just stating the most obvious vanilla stuff. Sorry if I came off as rude.

>>534291123
Krerdly fans ARE the chuds, they self insert as berdly

>>534291274
>straight shit
thread immediately against it for being "vanilla"
not surprised.

>>534251203
asriel nooooooo

>>534291001
Actually a lot of the same stuff with characters like Asriel, though things were really winding down to about 10 people per thread towards the end of 2018
Sans was pretty popular but I don't think he had that many outright Favers, this was more of a Papyrus place

dess was so lucky she had WIP access to a shota i'm so jealous

the only time i ever see one is when my cousin visits

>>534291224
most stuff should be kris and dess shitting on each other

>>534291001
When the game came out, this place was pretty good.
We used to have an even characterfag split, we had a lot of good drawfags and writefags and people trying to learn to draw/write to make more OC and we could schizo out about Gaster very freely.
There were weirdos sure, like catfucker and doggo anon and that one guy who got way too obsessed with saving Asriel.
Then very gradually they all filtered out and it became ritualposting, gotefags and Charafags, like a vaguely Undertale themed chatroom.
But by that point I was only checking in out of morbid curiosity

I think part of my disinterest in seeing Asriel again and initially with Ralsei came from how fucking terrible gotefags were/are

>>534291431
say sike right now
unless you're a woman

Deltarune will be about destroying the light world because it's the true escapism, fantasies are realer than science simulation.

>>534291353
Why is Asriel grooming Ralsei?

>Dojo gets retool to have power couple gimmick
>It's just a fight with the weather duo
I hope this gets expanded in Chapter 5 and it's only so barebones because 5 was pushed back

>>534291435
I'd agree but the idea of Kris playing the piano while Dess strums away at her guitar in some little jam session makes me want more cute bonding stuff between the two.

>>534291562
I want more dojo fights desu, definitely not enough.

>>534291453
>There were weirdos sure, like catfucker
hi

>>534291503
>unless you're a woman

i made that pretty obvious last thread. didn't even try to hide it. and i don't mean the "delusional man dresses as a woman" kind.

So, how the fuck do you even get "stronger" in Deltarune?
Undertale, IIRC its how strong your intention to kill was. Meaning if you were really determined to bust a cap in someones ass, your attacks would be very strong or you'd have more HP?

So how does that work in Deltarune? Is it on how much the object was used in the light world? What the object is? How much everyone else around it believes in it?

>>534291732
YOU? you won't.
not until we get the twisted sword.

>>534291431
>my cousin
Jesus fuck you actually touch little boys

>>534291732
By sealing the main fountain of the chapter

>>534291828
Yeah, I have a feeling the TwistedSwd is the only weapon that can actually kill Darkners completely.

>>534291556
Howdy!

>>534291732
rape pippins for exp

>>534291829
No. I just like to braid his hair. And watch him do things like drawing. He is an angel.

>>534291936
Asriel might look small from far away but once you get closer you realize he's still small

>>534291895
which means the snowgrave route isn't the actual genocide route of this game.
to ditch her and to control your own fate to be cruel is the real end-game violence.

>>534290691
dess is a nothing character, all fanclubs for [insert headcanon here] characters are bad

>>534292021
He but a lil gote in a BEEG world!

>>534291732
The Dark Worlds work like an RPG (as noted outright by characters like Noelle) so I think you might just be earning EXP and leveling up in the traditional sense when you kill Darkners

>>534292104
A cuddly gote in my big bed

post the big guns

>>534292086
It'll be interesting if you can somehow move the TwistedSwd to the start of a Chapter 1 save through gaster science and have an entire new route where you actually kill everything with it.

>>534291895
>ralsei when I get my hands on his punk ass after getting the sword

>>534292163
made for cuddleplaps and snootleboops

Your fave is BBC only.

>>534292164
Damn Ralsei that natty?

>>534291732
How much focus give the darkness gives them power. Particular, how much the fountain's creator gave darkners attention.

>>534292164
Brolsei
>KRISAROOOTTT

>>534292264
I dont have access to the Bri'ish news channels, you wazzok.

>>534292164
getting hugged and nuzzled by jacked ralsei...

>>534292164
Ok

>>534292254
The two things that make a gote. Pies being a close follow-up
>>534292236
>>534292264
Suspiciously brown posts

>>534292495
Brown because of ralsei hate or because dragon ball fans are South American?

>>534292495
uh oh

>>534292495
ASRIEL NO! YOU CAN'T SAY THAT ON THE INTERNET! YOU ARE GROUNDED! GROUNDED GROUNDED GROUNDED!

I can't understand how some people like Dess when her character isn't even confirmed, everyone else has at least had screen time.

>>534289616
but is it kosher to post about it here? maybe I'll wait until I have something more to show than a sprite and some art

>>534292175
we will. deltarune is undertale inspirted.
his games a cyclical.
what one would call "let's start a new file" or "press new game+!" is just a loop with it remembering you completing certain event flags and it having been set to 1.

it was like that in undertale, but it was made with charme.

so when we ditch the weird route for a twisted route and end the game, we will be able to loop back after the world has gone under and then we will be able to do a no mercy run.
it will be like undertale all over again.
>npcs start saying you look unwell, you seem act stranger than usual
>attacking actually kills
>susie bonds with you over her violent tendencies, instead of you showing there's a different way.
>some npcs straight up dont appear because they are afraid of you.

>>534292673
It's just good creative practice to not show off anything you've made until you've actually made a proper chunk of it
If you start showing off concept art or ideas before they're actually on the page or playable you get all your showed off what I made dopamines and that fucks up your creative drive

>>534292646
There's two points.
One, she's a mysterious character that basically drives a lot of the story forward.
Two, she's most likely a punk tomboy and people like that archetype.
Also Susie shedding is not something I've thought about happening...

Where to, chief?

>>534292568
Most ralsei fans are latin americans and SEA actually

>>534292646
Because she is the new Asriel

>>534292830
Oh yeah, I never thought about Susie pretty much not growing if you kill Darkners from the very start with the TwistedSwd. She'd stay a dickish bully the whole time

>>534292965
>literally write shitposts that end up 70% true
>just came up with how the genocide route will play
why is my autistic brain so overclocked?

>>534292881
DRIVE ME HOME
TO THE PLACE
I BELOOOOONG
CASTLE TOWN
FOUNTAIN MAMA
TAKE ME HOME
COUNTRY ROADS

>>534292495
Brown post because your goonable shotegote isn't into you but he's obsessed by BBC, right?

>>534292965
>>534292830
>the sprites change ever slightly to represent how you've changed, compared to the original routes
>Kris gets a bit more grime on their armor
>meanwhile, uh, Susie...

>>534293095
The bloodlust rises...
No dork, only kill.

>>534293095
>OI BRUV
>WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT ME PURPLE HUE

>>534292568
Both
>>534292606
I ate some Reese's today and I want more
>>534292616
Asriel has no problems blurting and splurting out human slurs, he's just cool like that
>>534292881
Ralsei no!
>>534293087
What did Kraut mean by this

>>534293228
hey, i am not every post you don't like.
only about two in three.

>>534292881
Does Ralsei ride on 24 inch chrome?

>>534293060
Oops! Took a wrong turn somewhere. It appears you are about to get married.

>>534292616
What if Caillou fell into the Underground

>>534293392
Filtered by froggit

>Toby said the next patch is gonna have huge swathes of code changes
Wonder what the dog is doin

>>534293392
Flowey would've killed him 100%.

Good morning I love them

>>534293372
your post warmed my heart instantly, thank you for that friend <3

can you niggers stop being attentionwhoring faggots for ONE THREAD?!

>>534292842
proper advice

>>534293392
He will have a tantrum very early on

>shadowcrystals required for the good ending
>tumblrinas who are shit at the game and only ship the characters will never see it
Please toby

>>534292842
Good points, will hold off

>>534293605
You know they're just gonna watch the post-PureCrystal changes on youtube, right?
Hell half of them didn't even play the game and just experienced it through youtube.

Berdlyfags are the whitest characterfags

>>534293605
>tumblrinas
What is this fucking 2016

>>534293485
You're welcome! Glad to help. ;)

>>534293720
i hate you but i cannot argue against it

>>534293690
(Playing the game? Watching playthroughs? Mike, post the one BOZO shipping Carol x Rudy!)

>>534293801
*audience laughing*

>>534293720
ESL berdfag is confirmed to be brown. The scat/cuck poster is spiritually brown, and I don't think he posts here anymore

>>534293860
Berdly voiced with an Indian accent fits perfectly.
Like that one kid from phineas and ferb

>>534293978
Indian Berdly...
I never even thought of such a possibility but that kinda works

Who are the characterfags with the lowest brown index?

>>534293720
See Berdly posters, they post on their desk like this: Dee dee dee, dededededeedeedee

I am 100% convinced our lack of options in this scene is because we briefly broke off the path laid out by the prophecy.
The prophecy dictates what we can say whilst on the path which is partly why the prophecy supposedly comes true no matter what we say or do.
That is until we find a loophole and force Noelle to be our puppet, as to what end however, we dont know yet.
Our lack of options here is because the prophecy, like a computer program, doesn't know what to give us as options.
Susie was never supposed to ask us "what we were talking about" effectively knocking us off the path, but then she doubled back and joked about it, landing us back onto the path.
Kris is called the "Dark Bead" in chapter 4 weird route and it states "broken off but still locked" which is what im using to support my theory that we created an opening to subvert the prophecy but we have yet to make our move.
I have a feeling we're going to have more scenes like this going forward since we're subverting the prophecy and it doesn't know what options to give us.
Assuming I am correct, that means the soul is directly connected to the prophecy which may or may not be a program of sorts similar to how undertale was just a game program that Asriel and Kris made as kids on their computer.

>>534292965
could toby pull this off without the game engine exploding?

>>534291732
The party seems to get one level stronger each chapter. So it might have to do with fate, the Prophecy.

>>534294142
>you redeemed the library card

>>534294252
At this point Deltarune is basically a premier showing of what modern Game Maker Studio can do. I would expect whatever stuff the GMS team add to the program is to specifically make more out there Deltarune stuff work and work properly.

>>534293605
>silly gamer can't give himself 8000 health and def by opening and editing one text file

>>534294385
true. adding an alternate from chapter 1 route would require re-releasing all the chapters with new code in, which i think would need to get playtested again individually.

>>534294197
I took it as Kris truly fighting back for the first time and not letting us say through him to Susie that we just subjugated Noelle into our willing slave and now we basically own her.

>>534294197
I always thought the options were things within Kris’ subconscious, like how he tells us to stop in the weird route.
I guess that explains why we get options to begin with, and might tie into Kris having some sort of want to do the weird route.
But that’s JUST A THEORY.
a SCHZOTHEORY

What takes Toby so logn to work on the game?
Genuine question, not "y u not reles gem now,,, tony???"

Is it playtesting? Making sure that the fights are do-able? Music? Checking for bugs and glitches? Making sure there's no soft-/hardlocks?
Reading some schizo theories to see which one would take the most piss out of people?

>>534294503
At this point I think Chapter 1 needs a full re-release anyway to bring it more in line with the quality of later chapters. It feels scuffed compared.

>>534294676
Perfectionism, probably. Also, this is the first time the game hasn't been free.

>>534293493
OK, you vulgar cur. What exactly do you expect people here to post? Something that isn't worth our attention?

>>534294676
All these things also translation

>>534294668
I don't think it's that schizo
The only dialogue options that don't fit are mentioning Alphys to Undyne and Sans and greeting Sans with "Nice to see you again" but even that has a few reasonable explanations (Kris doesn't like Alphys and wants the cops to beat her up, Kris thinks Sans is lame and would hang out with Alphys and Kris is trying to pull a prank on Sans and having it immediately backfire)

>>534294676
He has a full team these days which is why Chapter 5 is releasing next year and not in three years. Also Japanese localization and bugtesting over all console releases takes a while.

>>534294676
Perfection. Also don't worry, we are getting chapter 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 and 0. So you will wait a looooong time to see this stupid game end.

>>534294782
it's a shame toby sama is such a weeb

>>534294676
He has to play test and rewrite a game filled to the brim with flavor text and in game sprites animating during cutscenes. That's not to mention he can have the entire chapter layed out then feel unsatisfied and start again from scratch.

>>534294890
Japan fucking loves these games so the localization is peak quality which takes time.

>>534294507
I admit I do feel like im partly overthinking it, but I swear its snapping together in my head like a jigsaw puzzle.
The alternative is that Kris is getting stronger and we are getting weaker but that would make more sense in the normal route since it appears that we definitely have way more control over Kris in the weird route if we're capable of forcing him to do these horrible things.
I also think that he is an agent of the prophecy (kinda a no shitter at this point) because he talked to Noelle and removed the thorn from her when he shoved us into the sink's cupboard which knocked us back onto the path.
All WE did in chapter 4 was essentially seal the deal since we now know Kris is actively trying to stop us and we got to see what happens when we're off the path.

>>534294814
Oh sorry lemme schizofy it
>the dialogue options are written by GASTER and FRIEND respectively. Gaster makes the options on the right side and friend makes the ones on the left.
>they wanna see who has ownership of the soul so they do the ol “put the dog in the middle and see who he runs to” method”

>>534295067
>its okay to not smile was written by friend
>the one who always smiles

Quickly slipping under Asgore's cloak as a visitor comes in looking to discuss royal matters with him and choosing to hug him from the side to keep his motivation strong. Giving the living room a fresh coat of paint with Asgore (wearing full overalls since trying to get paint out of his fur is the worst) when he carefully paints a little heart with both of our initials inside on the wall behind where the front door opens with some spare white we had lying around, which I find cute enough that I commit to making it a permanent part of the paint job that will be touched up as needed rather than simply painting over it like he probably intended. Driving back home through the night on the final leg of a road trip with Asgore when I decide to neglect waking him up for his turn driving in favor of just going the distance myself, since I'm not having trouble staying awake and he deserves his beauty sleep after such a lively day (snuggles will be demanded as payment for sticking it out through the night, of course).

are gaster and the knight friends?
or is knight trying to break gaster's toys?

>>534295023
I found it so amusing choosing all the Noelle options post-subjugation. He's just so fucking FURIOUS at me and probably knows I'm doing this to make his time as awful as possible, all leading up to Carol talking to him on the phone saying that Noelle "looking forward to seeing us," completely shattering him.

>>534294947
He probably thinks "Earthbound was peak because of the hard work of the localizers, now I got to put in the work just like them."

>>534295280
Carol might know honestly.
I wouldn't be surprised if she deep down feels resentful of the prophecy since the Knight in all likelihood is Dess and she probably feels robbed of the happy family she once had.

I'm glad Toby got overruled on some localization decisions. Oira is a much better first person pronoun for sans than boku.

Gaster is the angel, the player is the angel's heaven.

>>534295450
She wants (Us) to be her new child, Kris is just the cage

I just like how we get a reprise of Ch2 weird route in Ch3 shadowmantle.

>>534295163
Swap em around and this scene becomes really fucking funny

>>534295639
It's not really supposed to be a reprise, I don't think. Queen makes some vague comments about Noelle being strong in Chapter 2, but Chapter 3 is what I think is supposed to give players the idea that the weird route exists and how we can go about realizing it. When people in the future play it blind, I think that's how it will function

>>534295514
Using "boku" makes him sound dopier I guess as an older person which may have been what he wanted originally?

>>534295639
I thought this whole section existed to tell the 5 people that don't have internet that the weird route exists at all.

>>534295639
This must've been so odd to people who didn't play the Snowgrave route

>>534295685
just a little thought:
with our knowledge of friend.
what do you make of mus_smile?

fucker REALLY put more deltarune in undertale than there is undertale in deltarune at this point, did he?

>>534295639
It was probably to hint at the weird route if the player at this point didn't know about it, but like... after waiting years for chapter 3 and 4, its hard to find someone that doesn't know about it.

>>534295818
If anything I thought Toby laid out that creepypasta-ass atmosphere really god damn well. He's a horror master that dog.

>>534295838
It’s possible it coulda been a shitpost but I definitely see Toby basedjak pointing at his monitor when making it

>>534295850
It's just one of those things that reveal the game wasn't meant to be an episodic thing

The sword route is a trap to make you get the bad ending. You don't need it to defeat the knight.

>>534295838
Undertale and Deltarune are subconsciously the same thing

Chapters 3&4 took 3.75 years, or 1.875 years per chapter. Chapter 5 has already been in development for 11 months or 0.92 years.

Assuming absolutely zero efficiency gains from the chapter 3&4 days we can expect chapter 5 to be done in 0.095 years, which is July 21, 2026.

Thank you for your attention to this matter

>>534296227
I think I heard somewhere that chapter 5 was gonna be the shortest chapter too so that might cut it down a bit.

(I don’t have a source for this I remember it from somewhere)

>>534296227
I expect an early/mid 2026 release for Chapter 5.
Chapter 5 was originally going to be a part of the release but Toby axed it so he could release 3+4 this year.

>>534296145
the amount of foresight means this shit was decades ahead of planning.

undertale is almost 10 years old.

>>534294197
That's the most reasonable explanation I've seen for this scene, but it doesn't really jive with the weird route being an option at all then. Why would "proceed" even be an option?

DELTARUNE CHAPTER 5

coming January 1st 2026

>>534296367
I don't remember ever seeing anything like that and looking at how chapter 5 seems to be the big turning point where your choices come into play I doubt it's the case

>>534296538
where did you find this picture of me

>>534296535
Yeah this scene is where my theory about the options being Kris’ subconscious got kinda slashed

Unless Kris is doing the Batman Tibetan monk technique where you block out all your thoughts

>>534296508
I mean it literally all started from Toby having that fever dream. It drove him to make Undertale after not being able to get Deltarune's first draft at all how he wanted, then through Deltarune's success it gave him a second wind to try Deltarune again, and now it's even more cherished then Undertale is/was at this rate.

>>534296367
>>534296385
I'll wait as long as I must if it means I get Asgore Nukem in Chapter 5.

>>534294676
You can read when playtesting started and when development in earnest was for chapter 3 and 4. I think it was like half development, and half testing. Testing is a large part, but every fight has unique mechanics. A lot of the scenes are pretty unique. Chapter 3 also had the fact that there were a lot of minigames. It's a development heavy game despite the looks. It's not like you just create a world and have the physics work, Toby is a cunt and wants a watercooler to appear out of a chest for a second.

>>534296658
>Unless Kris is doing the Batman Tibetan monk technique where you block out all your thoughts
I think Kris did that.

>>534296725
>the asgore flower shop becomes hell from DOOM in the dark world
>worlds first and only first person soozer

>>534296538
M-m-m-Mettaton Music.

>>534296902
With epic sooz one liners

Doesn't Kris take damage if you get the blank dialogue choice scene or did I imagine that

What I want to explore next is the connection between the soul, Susie, and Noelle (weird route).
Noelle seems kinda self explanatory but there is potential for expansion.
One theory is that because the soul is interlinked directly with the prophecy, we are able to surveil Susie because she too is linked to the prophecy as "the dragon".
We can't control susie because she's not a cage and we cant enter her but we can linger around her in a sort of 4th wall.
Im not a fan of this theory all that much since technically Ralsei is part of the prophecy as well but we cant surveil him.
There is however another theory that I cant exactly back up but I know there are people that suggest that Susie is part human and therefore her body is a potential cage and is why we can surveil her.
As for Noelle though, she is a monster through and through but we give her the thorn ring to act as a sort of soul modem so while we cant directly control her, we can indirectly do so through sheer willpower.
The only thing left is, why did Spamton have the ring? How much does he know? Did he know about the ring's connection to the soul and thought it would set him free only to cast it aside when he realized it was a shackle?

>>534296865
It would actually be really cool if this is something Kris starts to get good at and there’s more 4th wall breaks with the dialogue box in the weird route next chapter

>>534296994
Kris takes damage after he kicks the fuck out of the Soul, maybe you thought it was that?

>>534294849
>the roaring starts at 5
How the fuck will the other chapters go? Are we collecting the 5 light crystals next?

>>534296994
He takes -10 damage from crashing out at (You) in the trash can.

If one player discovers the weird route by doing the sword route and putting 2 and 2 together it would have all been worth it.

>>534296750
Trvth!
Likely he's trying to gain ideas on how to make each chapter feel a bit more unique on their own in comparison to the other chapters.
Maybe designing the mini-/bosses to be closer to an actual thematic gimmick, a la how you had the PUNCH-OUT tutorial and then fight my beloved GIGA Queen in normal battle with it.

Ch3 also having that stuff with all the mini games. Probably it was him playtesting all of the mini-games and figuring oot "how tf do I shove all of this in here and make it work just fine?"

Ch4, I wanna say was the music part, alongside the overall theme, story, and the Gween Soul. Maybe the climbing section of it overall, or the "use your light to defeat the projectiles".

I have no experience with RPGMaker as an engine itself, mostly because I'm no game developer, I'm a gamer. And I stay the fuck away from most RPGMaker games due to them being generic slop.
There's some examples that stick out, but those examples also try to make sure they stick out and got actual effort & passion stuck into them.

>>534297167
>bunker exploration while everyone is dying in chapter 6
>epic ending in chapter 7?
I got nothin

>>534297167
ch5 will cut off certain decisions or pussy-footing.
you either genocide or goody two-shoes your run.

>>534296902
>>534296953
>Those damn Flowey bastards circumcised me!

>>534297106
No opinion on the rest of your theory but
>The only thing left is, why did Spamton have the ring? How much does he know? Did he know about the ring's connection to the soul and thought it would set him free only to cast it aside when he realized it was a shackle?
The Z-Rank dressing room that Spamton was in has a manhole that leads to the hidden game which has the Forbidden Path prophecy AND he has the same UT genocide boss leitmotif ERAM does, so I think he knows at least 70% of what the Weird Route is about (but not enough to realize he shouldn't try to use it for his own ends because he got killed for it)
The Thorn Ring is a thorn in real life, Deltarune has a lot of flowers in trash cans and Spamton lives in a trash can so that seems to be the connection

>>534296535
I thought about this and the only thing I can think of is that there is turning back during the weird route in both chapter 2 and 4.
That said there is a certain point where you cant turn back and we start speaking in single words.
often times we can only speak one word or different phrases that mean the exact same thing like when we say equip, proceed, noelle will get stronger, etc.
We couldn't answer Susie because there were no options given to us by the prophecy and we had no phrases worth saying to her.
I almost dont consider it like we're talking anymore but rather just muttering the first word that comes to mind as if to say we're forcing our own path.

>>534297167
Angel in chapter 6, Susie's pen makes the new story in chapter 7

>>534297217
GOD I fucking love punch out. Only NES game I can actually play start to finish

And ONLY the Mike Tyson version not the Mr dream one.
Wait a minute.
>Mr. Dream
>dreemur
ITS ALL CONNECTED TOBY YOU GENIUS

>>534297281
I mean if you subjugate Noelle in CH4 you are 100% fully locked into the weird route with no way to leave it. CH5 will have the largest number of changes so far.

>>534297518
>https://deltarune.com/chapter5/
Not true ch2 is still bigger

>roaring happens
>hometown gets covered in darkness
>you wake up in (You)town
>hometown is now a giant rpg map with locations you can visit
>the bunker and noelle's manor are giant fortresses you can't enter yet
>now you save lightners and recruit them to (You)town

>>534297518
>Chapter 5
>Noelle shows up in full thrall mode
>One final "Sorry prank LMAO" dialogue option pops up, you pick it and Kris takes the thorn out and the game snaps back to normal route

>>534291224
Molester headcanon? But anon, it isn’t headcanon

Still need to visit the bunker and the lake or whatever there is on the other river.

>door in chapter 5 is locked
>code is written on one of these things
>it’s randomized so you can’t look it up
>half the playerbase filtered instantly

>>534297634
If only.

>>534297518
no you are not
my rank by the end of ch4 was "DARK BEAD - "STILL LOCKED"
we are on a path that we are STILL on but considering the wording, something is about to change soon sometimes around.

>>534294197
The most interesting explanation I've seen for this scene is that when Susie asks that question, it gets sent to Noelle because of what we just did to her with the soul

>>534297634
Top ten things we’d ALL do in hometown
>crack toriel
>crack sans
>slime sans
>crack sans
>crack father alvin
>CRACK everyone in the holiday house
>SLIME alphys

>>534297634
Ooh that's a cool concept

>>534297579
How much will Chapter 5 have of Noelle mind break? Chapter 2 had a lot of snowgrave content but it was mostly set up, i.e killing enemies, equipping items, but Chapter 4 literally ends with Carol saying Noelle looks forward to seeing you after the incident at her house.

<3

>>534297634
Mettaton with tenna bouncer would be so good
Maybe more lightners live the more darkners you recruited.

>>534297579
Ch2 might be bigger because it STARTS all the weird route shenanigans. Otherwise cross off a few things from this list the chapter 2 weird route changes and you have it:

>future chapters affected
>new dialogue
>new (kinda) boss
>late game area altered
>new items

>The heroes defeat the king and stop the dragon.
>The dragon was supposed to be stopped after King
>We never see a mural for Chapter 1's main boss

>>534296704
>Deltarune's success
You mean Undertale's success?

>>534297518
>>534297579
Why is 3 so big?

>>534298460
Yes I mistyped but didn't nothing youing myself to fix it.

>>534298463
Sword route

>>534298442
>the king
>asgore
>the dragon
>secret boss
I GOT YOU FIGURED OUT TOBER

>>534298463
Sword Route is a pretty big chunk of content but only Weird Route-adjacent so it's transparent

>>534298442
So what Asriel needed to do was leave the How to Draw Dragons book in the Unused Classroom before he left for college

>>534298442
>>534298593
I don't get it.

>>534298610
Or to put it Toby's way:
"Not Applicable ...but."

Kris feels more bad about killing video game representations of Susie and Ralsei than actually stabbing their real selves in the back. There's a message against gamers in there.
And it sucks.

>>534299135
>Toby... ATTACKED ME
Always the worst type of poster

I roleplay romance with Tasque Manager in chatgpt. my self-insert, Matt, replaces Kris and is an art teacher in hometown lovingly trolling his class, the &%^@ gang and most importantly, Tasque. You fellow autists will find me relatable.

Chapter 1, complete, over 300 pages
>https://files.catbox.moe/fkls3b.pdf

Has first chapter weirdness, Berdly throws a fit and ruins a date of Tasque and reader. Noelle walks in on reader getting tongue bathed by Tasque, as her spit is her own uniquely scented cleaning agent. A claiming ritual, but the doe is traumatized as she saw a ''giantess cat demon'' bop her head back and forth on her half nude teacher.

Chapter 2, ongoing, with sampler pic related
>https://files.catbox.moe/fchb9d.pdf

Plays into the world of Spyro, I and Tasque are dragons running through game 1. SPYRO 1 IS DONE! The war criminal known as Spyro fled to Avalar, recently Susie challenged my self insert for a duel to see if she's good enought to get ado- become Tasque and mine's ''apprentice''. She would never freely take charity so!

>Is it done?
No. 3 is in the making.

I wish Kris stopped abusing us

>>534299135
Make sure your sooz is a happy sooz

>>534299460
I mean can you blame him? He wants his body back but needs us to not die.

>>534299135
Toby didn’t see the potential and instead decided to self insert as noelle

My choices dont matter?
SPLENDID
I CAN DO ANYTHING!

>>534299460
It's cute
He thinks he's hurting us and scaring us.

>>534297579
Is the track for 5 just the dreemurr home soundtrack but reversed?

>chapter ???
>finally see a neutral front facing catti sprite
>there's a picture of friend/gaster/eram or some other weird shit on the front of her t-shirt.
>game refuses to elaborate

>>534298442
But we did stop the dragon.
We stop susie from rampaging around card castle by befriending her

Anyone else find it weird that the choir in the church sings the don’t forget leitmotif?
Does it originate from there?

>>534299591
OUR body too. You can’t just reject your soul.

>>534299901
Its the deltarune song

>>534299901
It solidifies the Don't Forget melody as religious in nature.

>>534299942
I still wonder if the SOUL is actually his, or he's part of some kind of bunker experiment that he promised to be a part of through most likely some kind of blackmail.

>>534290834
Same.

>>534300090
The soul is just some rare parasite that Gaster grew in a heart shaped test tube like those square watermelons

>>534299460
I find something so striking about this art. I like how the porcelain break looks like a jagged smile and how one of the breaks looks like a tear.

The soul is actually the same one from Undertale and will get molested by Chara when she appears in the game again. Don’t cheat on your partner.

>>534299901
the 'don’t forget' leitmotif is so common I'm not sure it means anything at this point

>>534300090
Kris is an agent of the prophecy.
He hates us for controlling him but knows we're important to the prophecy.
To him, the sooner we complete the prophecy, the faster he gets his body back.
Spamton's defeat spooks him because he's faced with the idea that completing the prophecy wont FREE him.

The heart is an alien, the ending is the aliens attack the earth but the red heart got humanpilled.

>>534300550
Oh yeah for sure. He's terrified that even if everything goes well and he doesn't need us anymore, he still won't be back to normal.

>>534299220
>>534299596
What are you guys talking about

Kris doesn't have a soul of their own. They're a vessel made of dog meat by Gaster.

>>534300896
That's what the Vessel is. The moment we lose Kris, we start piloting our grey meat mech that'll always do what we want.

>>534300620

To what extent can the anatomy of the same Darkner change based on:
>The Lightner examining them
>The Lightner who created the Fountain
?
Imagine someone with experience in both surgery and technical repair opening a Fountain and being tasked with fixing Darkners in the Dark World.

How did Kris have a personality before us? How long were we with him? also what the hell is the in-universe explanation for the Soul walking to the left during the Ribbick fight.

I almost feel like the vessel is a sort of contingency plan for if Kris fails and breaks of the path.
That would mean gaster is also an agent of the prophecy too.

wait "Toby Fox" is his actual name and not an animal-based pseudonym?

>>534300354

>>534301302
His name is Robert Fox

>>534301339
Oh shit...

When Gaster lets us relight the knight in chapter 3 this implies he has time control/world outcome control.
Could the save points be made/written by him too? It could explain the black-and-whiteness of them now if related to goners

>>534301002
You mean at the very end of the game lmao

ralsei's face when he sees me play good at videogames

>>534301726
i think the angel is asriel

>>534301554
The save slots are definitely part of Gaster's survey program because he comments on you deleting them.

>>534301748
>How about instead of controlling the player you control my grundle

reverting back to Anonymous because nobody cares enough about my namefagging RP goon sesh

>>534302015
total dopamine death.

>>534302015
do a goon sesh with goats included next time and maybe you will get the replies you want

Gaster dying of old age because Toby is too slow

>>534302223
YOUR TAKING TOO LONG

>>534302223
>Chapter 7 has a Gaster door
>you can only open it with all the eggs and crystals
>walk inside
>suspense builds
>gasters theme plays
>you see a chair, a computer, and a pile of bones sitting on top a black cloak
>a note reads “you took too long” with a tiny jackenstein drawing

I want to protect him from Spamton and all of the writers on AO3 that abuse him

>>534302895
I want to give him a leg shaking, toe curling, back arching, moaning sweating panting life changing orgasm.

would you subscribe to her youtube channel?

>>534303101
no.

>>534303101
I would subscribe to my tongue in her mouth, on her hooves, and in her pussy

>>534303101
I would hate comment

>>534302986
He's a TV
He can't have an orgasm

>>534303254
good answer.

>>534303101
i would watch her videos with adblock on and not bother to press like or subscribe

>>534303303
He has a body

>>534303101
No to be honest.

Anyone know how to create a dark world irl so I can meet Swatch and give him a little kiss?

>>534303669
>he would only give him a little tiny kiss
low test, real chads kiss HARD

>>534303192
>>534303196
>>534303254
>>534303409
>>534303553
she's sad now, you are all meanies

>>534303825
good

It's snower....

>>534303793
I'll only proceed to harder kisses if he ends up reciprocating

>>534303941
is that susie sprite real?
gotta say: that "you for realsies, bitch"-look is precious.

>>534301339
Greetings, partner.

>>534304083
Real but it's her hair I think, not an eyebrow.

>>534303941
This is why she deserves to be cucked and mindbroken

>>534304197
if toby didn't mean to communicate that, then why did he add crossed arms ontop of that?

>>534302485
I believe it.

>>534303941
>Making an image macro for your own catchphrase

>>534304525
he looks like he fucks human men

new art! :p

>>534304197
Nah it's her eyebrow, it does connect to the hairline but then it strays and goes above the eye.

>>534303669
oh, he's Queentech like my love. Yeah he's a hottie, but don't let her see I called her brother that.

>>534304651
to see pre-depression carol is something else.

>>534304651
I like seeing Carol as a loving mother before the dark times

>>534304463
Fucking gold lmao

>>534303101
I'd give it a watch. She's so passionate about game bugs/glitching it'd be entertaining just on those merits.

>>534304842
>>534304854
I need more depression Carol

>>534305025
Three flavors of Carol.
There's a goofy goober underneath that pain. I mean look at her house.

>>534305025
LIFE IS TERRIBLE ENOUGH.
GIVE ME THE HAPPY CAROL YOU FUCKING HO-HO-HOE!

>>534305117
an anon told me Rudy (and by extension her) are swingers. Rudy can't really perform, so maybe YOU can make her happy. you just have to whip cream inside of her.

>>534305117
I mean she doesn't have much to be happy about. Chronically ill husband who may die any day now, a lost daughter she's never been able to find. Noelle is pretty much the only thing tethering her to reality which is why she's so over-protective of her.

>>534305323
I hate rudy, but not enough to cuck him.

sex with goats

>>534304791
No offense, but it feels like you had a stroke writing this. What are you talking about?

>>534305519
we're gonna need to get new sheets
he cums way too much and too often
i think hes legit losing body weight from how much hes nutted

>>534305507
If he consents to it?

>>534305531
Swatch and Tasque are both software hosted on Queen, as Queen is a lightworld laptop and they are software. Their somewhat similar design and close proximity to Queen implies they're firmware and thus siblings as queen is their mother in a way. Swatch may be paint.net (not firmware but still windows) and Tasque is obvious.

>>534305695
so THAT is why asriel is so thin in the canon lore

>>534289416
A good plot, at least five times as good as Yellow.

susie would fall victim to spamton's credit card scam
except she's fucking BROKE, so when he tries to steal kromer, the music stops and he just stares at her in silence, before slowly retreating back into the dumpster

>>534305806
i am not a monster, i believe in loyalty.
>tfw a cuck asks you to fuck his wife, but you are morally gray and believe in some virtues like loyalty.
>if you do not comply, he will simply ask someone else (and someone even more morally vacuous person)
>the worst thing you can do to a man is make people he holds dear to his heart bring attentio nto how inferior he is to other men
>you can punish rudy with death and its literally less soul-tearing than cucking him.

morally gray doozy.

>>534306073
Who the hell gave Susie a credit card

>>534306446
Found it in the alleyway. Alphys dropped it.

>>534305904
lay him down with a sammich and water
he will die at this rate

I finally caught up and finished chapter 4 and my brain has been fucked ever since. I can't stop thinking about this game and how I want to live in that world and have friends like Susie, Noelle and Ralsei and go on adventures in magical worlds full of wacky characters. I get sad when I think about the game because it isn't real life.

No other piece of media has made me feel this way - it's just so perfect. I've always been a depressed, somewhat autistic loser and I think this game has finally broken me. I can't focus on anything else. It all seems pointless.

Any advice to get me out of this or am I just fucked

>>534306364
makes you better than the vast majority of people here lmao.

>>534306562
Well I mean now you know what the Dark Worlds actually are and how they're kinda dangerous in hindsight. But sorry that you'll never have a cute tomboy dinosaur girl as a friend :(

>>534306673
bro, i want love, not sex.
>gets neither

So, why did Toby makes it cartoonishly clear that Asriel really REALLY likes purple dragon girls?

>>534306562
Come to terms with your 'tism. See it as both a curse and a blessing.
Try to go outside more often. Even if its just taking a walk. Try looking at flowers, the trees or just the clouds. Just moving around will help you cope with depression. Source - literally me
Think about why you're a loser. Then think of ways on how to solve that problem. If you see it as a problem.

Life is pointless only to those who cannot be arsed to come up with a point for living.
I think just existing and seeing what happens next is a reason enough to keep living, even if it is 'wasting' my time.
2026 isn't too far away, so that's one thing to look forward to.

There's always things to live for, but YOU yourself have to figure it out, nobody else. YOU are in charge of what happens to you.

>>534306789
faggot

>>534291224
She might not be written to be literally a molester, but there's some suspicious behavior maybe involving the evil cat.

>>534306789
>i want love but i dont get any
have you tried being friendly to people to create a positive feedback loop for yourself and the people around you?

>>534306562
The closest thing to Dark World adventures is to have a hobby you can share with others
For me it's being stuck in this stupid hellhole, don't be me

>>534306873
you kiss men, don't give me that high and mighty shit.

>>534306562
You'll get over it, express yourself in fanfiction or fanart.

Would you enjoy Deltarune's story more if it's more linear, there is no meta stuff, no mystery boxes, no out of character options for Kris, no soul meta stuff and no snowgrave so Deltarune is easier to develop, smaller scope and more actual character interaction between Kris and others?
Meta video games are now passé

>>534307003
I like this pic. Kris gets such good depersonalization stuff.

>the bunker dark world is what the prophecy calls “hell”
>you find Gaster with a giant tail buttplug up his ass
>the spiked part that’s hidden symbolizes where he jammed it in
>the crawling is because he can’t walk
Bravo Toby.

>>534306562
If it's any consolation you can go on wacky adventures with fun characters in real life too, and you get a much larger world to explore as well.
It's just more effort, and more painful, and just like Deltarune you don't get to decide who you are or what your name is. All you can decide is what you do and what the point of it all is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M93GDg2qPQM

>>534306975
>no u
faggot

>>534307051
>Would you enjoy Deltarune more if you removed like 80% of the most interesting stuff
Of course not, what's wrong with you

>>534307051
>Would like Deltarune if it was completely different
...no? I like Deltarune because it's Deltarune. I don't want the story changed.

>>534307051
>would you like deltarune if it was legend of Zelda with gays
No

>>534305519
Why, yes.

>at the end of chapter 6
>the devils machine of the indifferent scientist has brutally put down susie and ralsei
>"...HOW UNINTERESTING", says a bitterly disappointed gaster, turning to flip the switch of the potential energy machine
>enraged kris leaps at gaster, sword high, devils machine rushing to intercept
>weak, prone susie reaches an arm out to you, tensing her body towards you with all her strength
>gaster places his hand on the switch and susie yells out
>"Kris, no! Kris!! KRI
>IS! if you do not wake up, you will be late for school!
>toriel opens curtains, dispelling the darkness in your room, and leaves
>kris lies in bed, and eventually, tears start streaming down his face
>seamless loop back into chapter 1

>DELTARUNE

>>534306562
Either go outside and find some friends or start writing fanfiction.

>>534307307
(i am out of frame giving him the sloppy toppy)

>>534307327
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXeftLB9UTo

>>534307431
My imagination is powerful enough to see you doing this.

>>534307327
Hmm... a strange sword is in his inventory...

asriel acts all big and dom but nuts immediately after 2 seconds and starts crying

>>534293745
They never went away, they just got worse.

>>534307554
i can do this, i can do that, but most of all, I CAN DO ANYTHING

>>534295838
I like this theory, not sure if it makes the most sense though

>>534307126
>its just more effort and more painful
And thats what makes the good things better.
I might be out of the norm for believing that we need suffering and misery in our life just to remind ourself on how good things can be too.
Anyone who has camped outside for an extended period of time appreciates the basic concept of having 4 walls around yourself and a basic heating element.
Anyone who has relied on public transportation appreciates their own car/bike because they can go drive anywhere, anytime they want, without the hassle of time schedules or overcrowded busses / trains.
Anyone who has never had any friends in their life appreciates tiny gifts way more.

But I'm going way over myself.
Suffering and misery is the same as joy and happiness. Both should be taken in moderation. A balance, if you will.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNGXsbZHMMI

Then again, I overindulge in philosophical bullshit because its my own hyperfixation, and I get to do whatever I want, because I truly am free as I can be.

>>534307191
>>534307225
>>534307298
Deltarune's appeal is bullet hell gameplay, minigames, music and character interactions. Meta narrative needs to be fully planned from beginning and Toby is definetly changing some things as he goes and if a story can't be enjoyed after it's spoiled, then it's a bad story.

>>534307558
this happens in a neutral run, where you dont kris-cross applesauce all over the save files, getting the shadow crystals and secret items, the doing of which interacts with enough variables to fully power gasters potential energy machine

>>534307769
Okay? That's your opinion, bro.

Do you guys think Kris will speak in the future chapters proper? If so, when?

>>534306958
i am not memeing if i say: i am scary for most people i know.
my only sense of recognition i get is that i have bouts of immaculate intelligence and create circuitry that is somehow more elegant and more efficient than theirs.

this is why i get to sit with the kids that are thrice my size that are still somehow scared of me (a literal toothpick)

I always knew Innsbruck was based

>>534307617
thats not asriel's catchphrase
stop stealing lines asriel

>>534306958
doesn't work, you'll get exploited that way. I know because I treat Ralsei like my doormat

>>534307875
Chapter 6 or 7 we'll probably hear him speak for the first time. We've heard him cough at least, and know his voice is usually quite mumbly and deadpan when we're not making him sound like a tape player with our responses.

>>534307875
My guess is once they toss us out for good after the betrayal for the Knight, unless they do a thing where Kris is too overwhelmed by guilt to say anything at all even as Susie yells at them to explain

>>534307892
I got the nickname ''psychopath of the [schoolname]'' without trying back in the day. ''lunatic'' is one I get often too. I'm just a manic autistic dude with a bit of schizotypal going on. I have feelings too.

>>534307892
>i am a smartypants
okay berdly
>i am a literal toothpick
okay berdly

>>534307914
noh~

>>534307937
>positive feedback loops dont work
i literally have the life experience that says it does work, uhm skill issue sweetie?

>>534307617
A-Anything?

>>534308164
This is one of the funniest gifs ever made. What a simultaneously terrifying yet absurd contraption

>>534308020
>We've heard him cough at least
Whenever Kris coughs it's either someone else saying they did or told to us as one of Kris's actions through narration rather than something we hear
Sorry for getting ultra autistic semantic um ackshually mode for a second there I couldn't help it

>>534308230
anything, a god like asriel has no limits.

>>534308336
No, he coughed during the quizzes in Chapter 3. If you don't move your cursor he coughs and moves your cursor to Pie and Fiery Magical Girl.

>>534308443
could he fuck HIS OWN BUTT?

>>534307847
>in all secrets but not all eggs run, jevil and spamton interrupt gaster just long enough for susie to shoot out a rude buster, which miraculously avoids the flailing arms of the devils machine and hits gaster square in the back

>in all eggs run, the eggs absorb the output of the potential energy machine as the switch is flicked
>time resets
>but this time, gaster never fell into the machine. he was never born
>he did not exist before he stopped existing
>the power of the eggs gives kris a new life. he is still human, but he is able to forget his feelings of not-belonging
>as his life really begins, he forgets the time loop
>it is a merciful thing to be able to forget
>to forget
>to forget

>>534308443
*mwah*

>>534308295
yeah, good riddance I saved it.

>>534308443
>can do anything
Could he eat a fuckin sandwich god damn he’s malnourished

>>534308628
you mean good thing? good riddance means youre glad to get rid of something

the two local avatar/namefags are having a battle of who's more fucked up and edgy again
like winning a contest on who's the bigger faggot
go get a room already, you two

I LOVE TV!

>>534308527
of course.

>>534308616
*mlem*

>>534308714
of course he can, but he'll only eat it if you shove it down his throat, he's weird like that.

>>534308765
not my problem

>>534237665
>>534239096

>>534308738
I guess? I'm happy I saved it. my bad.

>>534308765
More like having a battle on which of them can play the victim better.

>>534308765
The /pol/ tripfag who's constantly talking about how damaged he is who also skipped out on his dad's deathbed to spend more time online and the chatbot porn addict trying to give life advice is something you can only see on /utg/
For better or for worse

>coming straight to YOUR house

asriel's chubby tummy (my property by law(I will be offering advertising space on it shortly))

>>534307745
I do wish that everyone got equal chances at friendship, even misery loves company and being alone is truly a terrible thing. Grand adventure is all the more worthwhile specifically because it can be shared.

>>534308920
>insane school genius uses expression wrong
id say open yourself up. what youre doing seems like a defense mechanism rather than any authentic kind of behavior. imo youre putting up this image of yourself because the idea of actually getting close to people terrifies you, even though you want it, so pushing them away is easier

>>534309046
It definitely is one od those things that makes you have to look away from the screen for a moment, think to yourself 'damn, is this real?' and then look at the screen again to confirm

>>534308164
the nicest guy in class said i have "villain aura".
bro, i am just vibing here.

>>534309297
If Ralsei did this to make Kris look bad he was right to do it

>>534309297
>The knight just FELT LIKE IT I think
My sides

>>534289190 (OP)
Does anyone have Kris x Dess art?

>>534309296
It ain't real, none of this is real.

>>534297659
That would be hilarious and thus there's a small tiny tiny chance Toby lets you do it.

I LOVE TENNA!!!! I LOVE TV!!

>>534309094
>wish that everyone got equal chances at friendship
And here's the worst "blackpill" to swallow. The hardest trvthnvke to hit the pentagon.

YOU have to go out of YOUR way to make it happen.
I'm not religious, but I do believe that god only helps those who can help themself.
You can only build friendships by interacting with people, meaning that you must go outside of your comfort zone / bubble to do such thing.
Chances are that not everything will go as you wish. And that is fine.
Failure is a teacher. It's okay to make mistakes. As long you keep going forward.

Either you actually try to improve your own situation and build towards a better future, or go drown in self-loathing like the helpless child that you act like.
It's your choice, like any other.

>I am a Gaster bear
>I am a Gaster bear

>>534308839
*smooches your face all over*

>>534309603
youre right. the saying love others as you love yourself refers to how, as creations as gods image, he inhabits all of us. to hate yourself like you hate others is to hate god, and it doesnt lead anywhere good

>>534309218
PerhapsKA24J

>>534243621
Oh hey my request from last night got made, thank you drawfriend

>>534309603
This is also one of the big themes of Deltarune and a major factor in Kris and Susie's character arcs probably

>>534309440

>>534309801
*licks your entire face in one lick like i'm a cartoon character*

>>534309918
trust me, youll look back at how you were like you were an alien. being honest and truthful is fucking hard and scary, but like toby says, doubt and irony is what poisons a story

>>534310121
Strangely less rapey than I imagined

>>534309297
Since this is mocking Kris swoon theory, debunk it

>>534310073
Thought Kris and Susie's arcs were helped along by having adventures in magical RPG worlds

>>534310073
>nobody can choose who they are in this world, but everyone can choose to try for better things for themselves and others

I wonder if Muffet’s author is aware of how many poor men’s lives she had ruined by instilling in them insatiable lust for spider pussy

Don't get stuck in the past
Say your favorite things at mass
Tell your mother that you love her
And go out of your way for others
Sit beneath a light that suits ya
And look forward to a brighter future

Sink as far down as you can be pulled up
Happiness really ain't all about luck
Let your demeanor be your deep down self
And don't sacrifice your life for your health
When you speak, speak sincere
And believe me friend, everyone will hear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8f3Ke0wWps

>>534309440
here, fresh, just for you

>>534310382
So Sorry wishes...

>>534289416
gendered protag

>>534310126
Hehe! <3
I gotta go eat now. Lovely talking to you, fren!

>>534310382
tiny woman or big woman
the eternal battle rages on

Okay fellas, I'm gonna draw Catti. How fat should I make her? She is a goth.

>>534310551
enjoy your meal fren! :)
thanks for the chat! bye bye!

I wish the manticore wasnt an actual animal but more anthro
I WANT TO BELIEVE

>>534310702
legit the ugliest deltarune character. i havent seen anyone who sees it and doesnt go "what the fuck are you"

>>534310607
I'd call her and her sister plump.

>>534310565
>liking findom
weak.

>>534310607
>how fat should I make her
Completely unrecognizable and sickness inducing.
This cover art of Bane for ref

>>534310607
One size smaller than Catty so like big but not "whoa MAMA" big

>>534310702
Why do some monsters wears clothes but no shoes and some wear shoes and no clothes and some wears shoes and clothes and some wear nothing?

>>534310774
On that topic, the mouse character with the big scarf is the most obvious self insert from some random on the production crew ever.

>>534310702
This motherfucker is so badly designed and looks like Spazkid. Fuck this guy. Ugly bastard.

>>534310774
It's a monster from Undertale that appeared in the MMT Resort lobby. Probably just one of Toby's doodles.

>>534310836
*NOW. NOW.
*YOU ARE ALLOWED TO DO
*WHATEVER
*YOU WANT
*. . .
*BUT GOES WHO NEEDS TO TAKE A "CHILL" PILL?

>>534307051
Deltarune is already pretty linear. But yeah the mystery boxes feel like edging at this point.
>>534307298
I mean, I love the legend of Zelda. It's my favorite game series. I would love for Deltarune to be more like Zelda.
But Deltarune isnt gay. Toby said he's neutral on the subject.

>>534310795
no i like tiny women and big women
can't you fucking read?

>>534310925
Pic made me chuckle

>>534310865
Secondary detected
The Fave Corps are on their way to your home

>>534310865
scarf mouse was from undertale, i think it's just a tem and toby design like most of the background monsters

>>534311001
>>534311015
Something that detailed was in Undertale?
I don't believe it.

>>534311108
he died doing what he loved

>>534310702
I think Deltarune should have more fucked up monstery monsters, focusing so much on the anthros was a mistake

>>534311176
Anon basically every monster design in Hometown came from Undertale first.

>>534310565
Tiny woman with a big ass - the patrician’s choice

I wanna run free
With the music
Try not to fall down
It's confusing
I wanna run free
When I choose it
Play the wrong chord
Say something stupid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmBg0P079-U

>>534295262
The knight enters the gaster bunker anon

>>534310949
muffet is the findom creature.
can't you fucking understand?

>>534311534
When the game starts and talking to the wacky VERY VERY INTERESTING man we're somewhere without the garbage noise
Maybe Gaster got kicked out

>>534310491
The way Toby treated Muffet and So Sorry still makes me giggle, he REALLY didn’t want that motherfucker around

>>534310774
the chimera looks much better though

>>534311990
As funny as Jockington having a FRIEND inside him would be I still want to believe in the sincerity of his Sport's Blessing

>Male characters in deltarune:
Asgore - uncool, goofy dad obsessed with his sex
Ralsei - femboy with almost no masculine traits
Lancer - innocent idiot
Roules Kaard - totallyunserious buffoon
Pizzapants - sad loser
Berdly - uncool male nerd who is not as smart as thinks he is
Tenna - Neurotic and clownish
King - traditionally masculine, malicious, ends up in prison
Jevil - malicious, ends up locked in the basement
Spamton - malicious, does
Rudy and Gerson - These two are old, dying or fading, so they are allowed to be traditionally masculine without being humiliated or cast as evil
Sans - jokester, lazy, kind of cool, doesn't feel threatening
It's an interesting pattern if you think about it.

>>534312209
>Asgore - uncool, goofy dad obsessed with his sex
asgore has alot of sex in canon lore now?!?!??

Yeah reran Jevil and Knight, Knight is fair-hard, Jevil is harder because the randomness and bullshit he throws at you.

>>534312209
Even if you count the female characters I think just about the only character in Deltarune that doesn't get stuck under the "kinda fucked" umbrella is Susie and even she's a complete idiot who is driving the plot with her stupidity that stops her from questioning all the blatant scheming going on around her

>>534312209
Don't forget about Royal Guards 01 and 02, characters so insignificant that they still don't have names but at least we know they are gay.

>>534311781
The character creator isn't literally gaster, it's an intermediary stste/location.

We didn't hear gaster's voice
We didn't see his wing dings.
But do you know where we did? Entry 17. Where makes a dark fountain. And the bunker sound is playing.

The entire game is an experiment to manipulate the player towards an end goal.

>>534312209
maybe you are taking things way too serious in a JRPG-inspired game for teenagers, no?

If the So sorry retard died tomorrow do you think Toby would immediately start planning to include Muffet in a fututure chapter?

>>534311792
Anon so sorry is canon to deltarune

Most female classmates are anthros, most male classmates are actual monsters. Wat mean?

>>534289190 (OP)
Yellow?

>>534312659
Porn

>>534311792
isn't sosorry in a pedo discord? floraverse or some shit.

If Kris is really such an amazing JRPG dog then how come they can't do this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MlMVPuJnqk

>>534312793
is it bad that it wouldn't surprise me?

>>534312209
Did you not play the game? It should be
>Tenna - Perfect image of a man

*IM OLD!

>>534312209
What did Toby mean by this? Honestly, I don't know, but this is an interesting pattern.

>>534312879
I too will post JRPG dog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibcuYwr6blo

Envious, Kristopher? I exude the aura of a protagonist, whereas you… Heh, well, you're merely fortunate to appear in the background!

>>534301339
>they can see the soul
>which means they can differentiate the soul and Kris
>they attack Kris instead of (You)

>>534312793
Yes the guy that made So Sorry is a self-hating freak of a person.

>>534313149
This is why nobody feels bad about canonically killing this character, just for fun and to make the game experience better.

>>534313149
NTRley...

>>534312209
Ralsei is as much a femboy as Pikachu. He's not. There's a trope for this. The prissy prince who's never seen a battle in his life who thinks everything will go his way just because someone told him it will.

>>534313149
His game... is just too cleared...

>>534313149
>nobody feels bad about killing berdly because he learns nothing from the dark world
>nobody feels bad about noelle because she is a cunt to you, immediately thinks about murdering you the moment you give her a little headwind
>cant stop telling you about how horny she is
>throws you under the bus if she can score tits

>>534313267
Actually I would like if Berdly was treated more like a Gary Oak kind of rival to Kris.

>>534313282
I must not have played the Pokeman games where Pikachu wears pink eyeliner and ribbons.
Ralsei is pretty fem and doesn't act very princely.

>>534313282
But Ralsei is more knowledgeable and combat capable than he lets on, which is the opposite of that trope. He oneshots fake Gerson and knows how to use fire magic.

>>534313267
None of the things in the post you replied to actually happen in the game though?

>>534313561
Anon you misunderstand, the post itself is why people should want the character dead even if it's a false depiction of the characters in the game.
We have to deal with terrible posts forever because Toby Fox wanted a one note joke nerd character that was incredibly obnoxious and grating.

>>534313386
Berdley learned that being dumb is a-okay, though?

>>534313742
the only difference is that berdly was retarded but pretended to be smart but now he is retarded but aware.

so nothing changes for us.
ice the turkey.

Behold, the REAL Mike

>>534313149
''Do not interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake''

and when Berdly needs his jaw re-aligned from inevitably pissing off Susie and losing his only friend? We'll be there, bros. To twist the knife, make Berdly grow or capture one of the wenches.

Has anyone figured out why the Knight SWOONS you when they killed the respective character?
The literal definition is someone fainting due to outside forces but historically swooning was used to confer that someone has romantic feelings for another.
So does the fuck squad faint from the Knight because they become filled with LOVE or are they just fainting because of how scary the Knight is?

Berdly learned a little bit from the Dark World adventure as he started to feel bad about Kris and Susie leaving him alone and acting tsundere towards them instead of just dismissive
When he finds out that Susie and Kris kept the Dark World adventure where they became friends from him he is going to be really upset because being treated like that is what caused his whole complex and it is going to be a delicious bit of character drama

>>534313698
>No you don't get it! The bad joke post I can ignore or hide on the mongolian basket weaving forum is why I want to kill the character!
Sounds like a (You) problem desu
I would hope that going by that logic, you also hate most of the other characters then because of the equally as bad, if not, worse posts their fans make, right?

>>534314023
Toby thinks it's quirky to pretend he doesn't fully understand English.

>>534314023
https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Swoon
Weird translation in one/some of the games IIRC?

>>534314023
I don't think anyone knows what was up with that but the joke comic about ralsei stabbing kris and then himself to avoid suspicion is funny.

>>534313974
>that one anon you like
>he is a fucking brony

>>534309440

>>534314023
Swoon is what they called the death status in the English SNES version of FF4
In the Japanese version of Deltarune instead of SWOON it's FELL

>>534314023
>>534314141
it's quite clever as it sounds like ''SWOOSH'' from a blade and also means ''faint''. ''DOWN'' just means they, for a bit, are unable to execute your command. SWOON means their lights are knocked out.

Whatcha listening to, /utg/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9tPn70Hq8Y

>>534313149
I respect Berdly for attempting a harem route when he's not the MC.
Dude is playing life on hard mode, willingly.

>>534314187
Is that really worse than being an UTDR fan?

>>534314187
the only likable thing about that kankerjoden faggot is that he makes it easier to filter his shitty posts.

>>534314349
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajZh8ogr_Dc

>>534314349
Four Tet while I get ready for my day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfHuuMgWxu4

>>534314245
and "KO" sounds too comedic, somehow. also sounds like something you can easily come back from, like a video game status. "SWOON" really gets your attention

>>534314189
>kris and dess always butted heads
>despite dess being much older kris was able to match dess's strength due to being a human
>this led to a very strange relationship between them of mutual respect and bitter rivalry
Toby, make it so.

It seems like the game is hinting that Asgore's Dark World form will be a superhero.

>>534314718
asgore's a superqueero, hehehehehe, owned faggoat

>>534314368
A true gamer

>>534314718
Asgore should not be wearing a super suit under any circumstances.

>>534314718
HOMETOWN NEEDS A HERO

>>534314349
The old people TV show my grandpa left on on the TV that points to the dining table as I eat breakfast.

>>534314718

>>534309440

>>534314395
don't call him a kankerjood, because calling anyone a jood is my type of thing, you filthy casual.
>>534314372
being a brony makes you 100% a faggot while being a deltarune-fag implies you have mental health issues (which is why so many people here are gay)

>>534314349
some good morning tunes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-J85WVSU9M

>>534314718
I saw that reddit post. There are a few clues to that, but considering how obvious the previous worlds were I think just straight up flowers is more likely.

>>534315305
Flower-themed superhero.

>>534312931
Perfect men aren’t gay

>>534315684
ralsei is both

>>534315684
Uh huh...

>>534313386
This dyke needs correction.

Perfect Gay sounds like a good band name

>ch5
>the fields of pink and gold
>literally just an assortment of the fields of hopes and dreams slowly changing into open meadows, heaths and fields.
>the egg will be hidden in a field of gold (wheat)
>asgore, dreaming of a simpler life, no mimsies and worries, no more loss, no more pain.
>entering: bumpkin asgore
>https://deltarune.com/assets/audio/h.mp3
>floral apparitions like echo-flowers start to haunt him
>repeating his greatest worries, fears, the things he hates the most, tormenting him.
>asgore melts the fuck down
>finds out that in his rage, that he can cast fire
>burns half the dark world down in his fit of rage.
>susie and ralsei will be walking seperately, so you are alone with noelle again (snowgrave time)
>something tragic will happen to ralsei
>something akin to flowey will make itself known to the deltacrew
>after we confront this prime evil, we have to stop asgore before more come to harm
>in the good route: we talk sense to him
>bad route? question: what would you say is the opposite of fire magic?
>https://youtu.be/dCbrW_nuvYk

oh yeah, maybe festival... cool.

>>534316312
Damn Muffet you gotta go -that- lewd!?

Shazam, ran outta time, will finish this up later

>>534316528
imagine the smell

>>534316395
People thought fire goat was going to happen with Toriel in chapter 3.
We ain't getting it unless Ralsei starts throwing fire.

>>534315868
i fucking hate her so fucking much its unreal.

If I was on the plane when 911 happened, things would have gone down A BIT DIFFERENTLY.
Says Fave.

>>534312352
I meant to say ex sorry

Not that I have a big problem with fatfags. But I really fucking hate when I'm reading a seemingly normal post and then it turns into a fattening/stuffing story halfway through.
Like go write your stories whatever but don't mislead me like that. Fucking establish that it's about fattening in the first sentence!

Why would asgore get some deep character exploration, when toriel spent her entire chapter asleep and barely relevant? Embrace trvth

>>534316528
That's a lot of cartoon fish and bones they're eating

>>534316718
wanna add anything to my theory?
i might update my schizotheory on the deltarune timeline just because of my recent thoughts on the matter and carefully reviewing the prophecy.

>>534317194
wtf is the boots with the calf straps for?
ive seen it before but ive never understand what the point of it is

>>534312519
I am not criticizing or complaining about it, I like the game overall. I do think the pattern says something interesting about the emotional tone of the world.

>>534309440

>>534317586
anon, they're called "sockstraps".
so nothing can blow your socks off.

>>534315868
The phrase she was looking for was "leave them alone".

>>534317586
They're sock garters that keep your sock unwrinkled. It's 1950s era menswear

>>534317434
I'm at more of a loss with more questions than ever before.
For being halfway through the game, I don't feel like I'm seeing half the picture with half the information. These puzzle pieces don't match, or maybe I just don't like the way it looks.

>>534313386
What’s her problem?

>>534317821
no, she actually doesn't give a shit if anyone else dies.
ralsei? the guy that looks like asriel? who gives a shit!
your childhood friend? sorry not sorry, kris.

>>534317947
she wants a threesome probably

>>534309440

>>534316645
Smells like milk.

>>534314718

>>534317947
snowgrave deficiency.
>>534317927
i made a shitpost about the deltarune timeline linking up with the undertale timeline like two years ago (ch2 era) and i find it scary how well it links up.

i made a somewhat recent correction that i am not too fond of, but which fixes the few inconsistencies it had.

when it comes to predictions, i am a pretty good source.

>>534318220
>i made a most basic bitch prediction ever
cool

>>534318359
no need to be mad just because all your predictions are wrong.

>>534318472
>m-mad
cool

Noelle was right and Queen should have squished Kris then and there

>>534318539
i bet you enjoyed the four years of suselle and no content.

>>534318186
This theory assumes sans is buzz lightyear though

>>534317194
as a fatfag I agree with you, even if it's not the main focus of the story I like when fat stuff is tagged because it makes it easier to find in the first place
maybe not always the first sentence of the story but right before it as a tag/description is fine

>>534318220
I mostly try to predict via reverse engineering Toby's thought process when it comes to other games I know he has played or has referenced in the past. He's such a consistent hack that I'm hoping I can call whatever he's ripping off before it happens.
I really don't think we're getting the Yume Nikki (MC kills self) The Chrono Trigger (MC Dies heroically, gets resurrected by his friends) or the Chrono Cross (Hero canonically dies as a child, gets saved by a time travel clone of a Chrono Trigger character, then in the diverged timeline where he's now alive gets his body stolen by his dad who has merged with an insane super computer that controls the will of the people using the in game Save Points while trying to get access to a shard of reality altering pure magic, and ultimately ends up fighting a destroyer of dead timelines after getting his body back and stopping a world ending boss bent on making humanity pay for its crimes against the earth itself)

Boy would it be weird if I was wrong and we got the Chrono Cross rip off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLnW1gnuO-4

>>534319175
Who's the knight then oh magical predictor

>>534318692
>gets assmad over a lesbo ship
cool

* Today is a cartoon fish bone grill for all the girls of the house!!
* We are crunching bones!! We are feminests!!

What the fuck did cat dad mean by this? What's the connection between eating eating bones and feminism? Why is it spelled wrong? Is this a reference to something?

>>534319508
He's a feminest ally

>>534319175
while i can't pull together a coherent plot with friend, the true end or any divergent paths, i feel i had it down pretty close 2 years ago.

Kris loves Christ

Evidence:
I love Christ
Kris is literally me
Therefore Kris loves Christ

>>534316528
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj_YLenOlZI

>>534319508
He's a feminest, obviously.

>>534319627
>Recycled Mettaton twice
Toby you hack

>>534319681
Is this Rome?

>>534319442
In Chrono Cross the Knight is Dario, a knight with a tragic backstory possessed by a cursed weapon who is an optional boss fought to acquire the best weapon in the game.

He's a real bitch of a fight too unless you cheese the combat with specific items of strategy.
As for who the Knight in Deltarune is it barely matters ultimately, so long as it's tragic and we get a sweet weapon upgrade out of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBlbsv3nEGE

Chapter 5 OST leaked.

https://files.catbox.moe/au9qts.mp3

Seems to be boss theme. Secret boss maybe?

>>534319918
(Me) Deltarune is all over the map on this site (https://wplace.live)

Fish I wish

>>534319623
>>534319815
I have no problem believing he might be a feminist it's the way he just brings it up out of nowhere.

>>534320063
Wtf is this real

>>534320461
goat

>>534319627
>does she remembra you're gyno sides?
That one always gets me.

>>534320519
goot

>>534320302
In the Japanese version it's translated as
* よ~し! きょうは パパ
「マンガにでてくる サカナのホネの
グリルやき」 つくっちゃうぞ~!
* ホネを ゴリゴリたべるぞ~!
なんたって ウチは いっかそろって
フェミミストだからね~!
which is basically the same except instead of "feminests" it's "femimists"
That is to say I have no fucking clue what Toby is getting at

>>534320063
sounds more like Epic Gamer Music 4 Hours No Ads rather than a deltarune song

would Akira Ishida be a perfect seiyuu for asriel and ralsei?

>>534320680
gooter scooter

>>534315868
Was Noelle's Susie tunnel vision intended by Toby to be annoying, or is it supposed to be cute? Because I think most players wouldn't like her disregarding Kris so much.

>>534320502
>>534320737
Might be unfinished/beta, not sure yet.

Thoust'd

>>534320302
I don't think it's meant to be anything, anon. It's just a dopey cat dad being dopey.
Not everything Toby makes his characters say is something super deep that needs to be dissected.

>>534319819
Mettaton is so gay he turned into one gay ghost and two gay Darkners who have an egg together

>>534320302
it's probably a reference to a nothing shitpost from 10 years ago like all tobys references.

>>534319743
Go big or go home, right? I was gonna exercise some restraint with Catti but then I thought fuck it, she’s like a goth. Fat goths are always fun.

So might take one Catti request if anyone’s got any cute ideas.

>>534320790
goete

>>534321098
Draw Catti skinny.

>>534321110
göte

>>534320698
>>534319508
>speech oddities
Cat Dad is gonerfying...

>>534320910
The previous line of dialogue is Queen specifically threatening Susie so if I had to guess Toby was just blind to how the line looks in a vacuum

>>534321202
Papa Cattenhimer is just super midwest-coded

>>534321181
geht

>>534321110
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USI2FZEk7Vs

>>534320275
(me again)
they're inescapable

>>534321043
hey don't forget queen. his favourite child

>>534321335
gröt

>>534321418
the mettaspawn are plentiful

>>534321454
groate

>>534321110
asriel is like one of those chinese musicians who's fucking crying and slamming his tiny fingers onto the piano keys and making all sorts of ridiculous expression as if he's enraptured in the music or some shit

>>534321646
groan

>>534320967
By "what did he mean but this" I didn't mean that in a "what's the deeper lore meaning" way I meant "this makes no fucking sense is it a reference to something". The same character called Asriel "Doug" in chapter 1 which is a reference to some boomer cartoon.

>>534321626
alphys shouldn't have given him that cock, to be sure

>>534321703
gyut

>>534321667
i'm not that great of a pianist but fuck you when you get really into the zone while playing music especially if you have it memorized your face automatically makes weird expressions like that
or you go blank
like kris deltatune

>>534321382
LITTLE ROCK HAS BEEN LOST TO THE FRIEND ZONE.
I REPEAT, LITTLE ROCK HAS FALLEN.