#1054 TTT resolved Edition

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But really, what does Ryzeal do against set Xyz Encore?

Lancea will never be banned or limited in any capacity, because its the meta needs it to function

Why does Konami print combo decks in current year that don't have an out to Nibiru
Fuck this nigger card

>>534298510
lancea is ass now that ryzeal is in the format, I'm sure the usage will drop

https://x.com/miyauchidp/status/1953357785674002673?t=V7FOIeen6kdfzHvOHyAGdg&s=19

Disgusting degenerate deck.

I took out all my handtraps. There is just no point anymore.

>ryzeal flips dbarrier calls xyz
some people I swear

>>534300158
Did it work?

>>534300457
yes obviously
turns out floodgating your opponent out of playing the game is effective
I just don't get why you'd do it when your only competition is a link deck

>>534299083
>-1 from wedju
>-1 from a qt
>-1 from tachyon

>>534300963
I would guess for the mirror. Even Ryzeal fears Ryzeal.

>>534300158
doesn't that put him down to a single negate on cross

>purulia does nothing against maliss
>meowls AND lancea does nothing against ryzeal
I HATE BEST OF 1 I HATE BEST OF 1 I HATE BEST OF 1 I HATE BEST OF 1 I HATE BEST OF 1 I HATE BEST OF 1 I HATE BEST OF 1

>>534301763
What's your ratios our of curiosity? Right now I'm running 2 meowls 2 fuwa and 1 purulia but honestly purulia is overall just decent at best, thinking of cutting it all together

>>534301763
Just run roach and ignore the Charmies.

Now that it's been a few days, which deck is more cancerous? Maliss, or Ryzeal?

>>534302338
maliss obviously

>>534302338
Ryzeal.

>>534302338
>the 40 minute combo deck that FTKs you if you don't turn 0 floodgate them to death
>3 pops and a monster negate

>got 2k
>want juuracc, six sam, slicer, and over dragon
>first pull got 1 detonater
>second pull /...

NIce try Konami, I won't take a bait and try to build Ryzeal.

I swear back in snake-eyes era, there was a way to mill ASF and then used gryphon to set it back, but I forget how
Was it Beato?

>Watch streamer play Master duel
>Goes against Maliss and complains that the dude is behind because he's using tb-11 for some reason
>Loses because tb-11 cheated out Crypter and he couldn't deal with her banish and mtp's banish
So TCGfags shouldn't be trusted on what cards are good and bad right? I don't get how you can still downplay the cards and call it useless when you lost because of it

>>534302641
TB-11 was memed to death due to the spreadsheet scandals

>>534302613
Dishonest post
>>534299083

>>534302641
TB-11 was dropped after @Ignister came out

ryzeal is just spright but shittier

>>534302812
Not in the OCG, they still run all 3 traps as you should

>>534302812
Uhhhhmmmmm....

>>534302641
i dunno what streamer you were watching but just because a card won you a game doesn't mean it's good. you could run waking the dragon too and it'll probably win you a game here and there, that doesn't mean it's a good idea

>>534302865
It also looks extremely boring, like, it doesn't look fun in the slightest. Bring out Deadnamer and then what? All combos appear to just lead to Deadnamer, with the only variety being what Rank 4 EDs you put in your deck. I really don't see why this deck was so hyped up.

>>534302865
worse, much worse, it's valmonica 2.0. The new Bagooska deck.

psst
roach trouble, eh?
tachyon-searchable baybeee
now a quarter of your deck is roach counter

>>534303125
How the fuck does he handle Ryzeal going second ???!

>>534303470
Because it's a COOL looking deck with NO waifus and it's the BEST deck ever! I put TWO bodies on field, make DETONATOR and I can pop THREE cards!

>>534303470
Deadnamer is a good card and I like it way more than ending on generic slop negates.

Goblins vs Ryzeal matches are the most fun I've had in Yugioh in years, if you haven't played this matchup yet you're missing out
The problem is Maliss dumpsters you and there's nothing you can do about it

>>534304330
>Good card
>Only good because of Eclipse twins which isn't in the game
Your entire deck dies to droplet and that's if you don't brick first

>>534297785 (OP)
This frame of Pegasus is peak fiction.
>New villain gets introduced with a smug, a glass of wine, and a mysterious eye at the end of an episode.

>>534302613
>>534302767
Maliss doesnt FtK. It makes you sit for 5 turns while it gathers enough damage to kill you, and preventing you from interacting or even playing, you guys got it all wrong.
It only plays for 40 minutes per game and if you go second without any sort of boardbreaking interrupt, you just lose anyway :)

>>534303935
Ryzeal is dead anon.

>>534305362
wtf how is Ryzeal dead but Maliss is still playable?

I'm new to maliss. without watching youtube is there a better way to find its combo lines?

>>534305521
Ryzeal got hit and Maliss got buffed

>>534305521
maliss is based
>>534305593
playing the game yourself and seeing what works and doesn't

>>534305593
Not really, its a complex deck with multiple starting lines including the traps. If you're new and looking for instawins just make Ryzeal, its literally retard proof and people right now are just quitting out of matches at the sight of Ext hitting the board.

Remember when people thought Therions were going to be decent Machine/Plant support

>>534305521
Malice got the @ignister cards.
Also this meta is worse than the last. Peak unfun. But a lot of people will cope because wow VS is LE soul. (It’s not)

>>534305362
K9 Vanquish Soul is the deck I plan on building this format. It looks cool and fun.

>>534305521
Ryzeal got like 3-4 cards hit.
Maliss just got Dormouse put to 1.

>>534305832
JUHU meta is the best Yugioh has ever been

juhu? more like jew boo hoo

>>534305593
>>534305825
Also one of the best ways of learning is making a retardproof deck like Ryzeal and playing against more complex decks to see how other players are playing. Information, for me, seems to sink in harder when you have to interact and study the board state, as opposed to cramming youtube videos down your throat, which can sometimes be kinda grating or downright annoying.

>>534305920
Jew who?
Yeah no, that meta sucks.

>>534305521
Maliss is extremely popular. It going to be playable for a very long time. You better get used to it. That tier list is 9 months into the future from where MD is, and Maliss is going to get more support soon.

>>534305698
>>534305825
I did save my gems for it, but after finding its playstyle went full in on maliss. I hate and don't trust youtubers desu. any maliss bros with ID for a lot of replays? I just wanna watch understand the interactions without wasting time reading each card.

>>534306225
I mean reading the cards is... kinda how you learn

>>534306225
i would recommend instead you watch challenger cups and skip to duels with decks you care about
or watch like lesser known streamers that are just competitive for the sake of it
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2519356729
like this guy. he's not like amazing, but he's pretty good and only really plays meta. most of that vod is maliss duels at relatively high rating. just mute and watch at 2x speed

Is Swordsoul playable in the synchro cup? It's the only synchro deck I have

>>534307134
it's playable, but i can't imagine you'll have a good time without protos or the tenyi links

>>534307134
It is one of the synchro decks of all time, really.

>>534302629
yes, beatrice
you can still do it with lightsworn curious but it's harder to make than beatrice

>>534305362
Why did Dracotail flop?

>>534306964
thanks! that's a great alternative. I hadn't thought of twitch, but I that it's unedited/scripted is exactly what I hoped for from replays.

>memento faggot summons a 4 mat apollousa after getting fuwa'd
>scoops when I steal it with TTT
alright gonna run TTT at 3 now

>>534308771
>draws 2 ttt, maxx c, ash and imperm going first

What tachyon searches? What the hell is TTT?

>>534305327
maliss has more than enough damage to kill you turn 3 with accesscode and hearts.

>>534308864

>>534308896
Why would they do that when they can pass turn and watch you squirm?

how come there is no handtrap that interacts with the gold sarc?

>>534310717
are you retarded

I don't know how to play the game without activating anything or tactics and talents become live. This is fucking miserable

>>534311118
cards that banish. why isn't there a way to interact with them

>>534311303
lancea...

>>534311623
that just stops it

>>534311303
Your impulse, anon?

>>534305362
>dracotail
>ss
>k9
>white forect
All deck I intend to build in the next 6 months, happy to see they're all good. Only sad I didnt get a royal while building maliss, hopefully I get a few shiny sky striker.

>>534305362
MD never deletes decks, ryzeals will still be good in the future, don't worry

>>534308846
Unironcially fine. Set one TTT imperm and shotgun max C. Now they are racing to beat my nib

>>534313298
I agree. But that wasn't the original conversation.

>>534313759
you want to set the ttt for no reason just to risk your imperm getting duster'd?

>>534313934
It's bait retard. A second TTT isn't going to do shit for you

>>534314218
bait for what retard
this isn't edison, no one is gonna play around your shit, they're just going to combo. and you're risking your imperm in case it's tenpai and all they have is paidra

>Metaltronus can get ash'd
fucking hell why is a generic handtrap stronger than a dedicated board breaker this is BS.

what's Argostar like? I haven't run into it on ladder at all

I've been crossed out 3 times in the last hour.
Bros.... I cant take it....

>let my opponent draw 20 off of maxx c
>still put a full stop onto all of his plays (galaxy but not the tachyon stuff? really odd)
>he loses to time limit when discarding for handsize
I love T.G.

>>534315369
card looks like ass, and only usable in mirror matches. imperm or veiler would be better

>>534302617
>pulling for Jurrac, Six Sam
I get it for Gordian but you can craft that if you really need it, both of the previous ones got moved to their secret packs immediately and that's a lot easier

Anti Spell Detonator is so fucking disgusting

>bagooska pass the deck
ryzeal couldn't have been more disappointing even if it tried

>>534316378
It's not though. the banish is nice bonus, but the negate itself is flexible and on either turn so it's an inferior imperm yes, but more useful than veiler

>>534315689
normal summon adra, she gets imperm'd because she has the "I'm a big deal" animation that makes her a handtrap magnet, set whatever you have in hand and die next turn if you don't have a floodgate that can stop your opponent

>>534317625
>>534315369
Just run Ultimate Slayer and send Aggregator.
You can even search it off of Thrust.

Ultimate Slayer or Nibiru for Ryzeal?

>>534318429
why on earth would you play nibiru against a deck that is immune to it

>>534317952
well ok, since I'll try switching to slayer what's the best fusion/synchro/link to dump? Garura/Elder and what else?

>>534318569
How is Ryzeal immune to Nib?

>>534318643
read the field spell

>>534318617
It's pretty much anything that gives gy effects.
Link - Ferrijit is a popular pick.
Synchro - @ignister Wind Pegasus
Xyz - Aggregator
Fusion - N'tss, Garura, or Kitkallos are typically the best picks.

>>534318826
Wow, that's fucking stupid.

So then, if Ryzeal puts down Anti-Spell Fragrance, you literally have no way to win then.

>>534319132
solid, thanks

>>534315689
I have run into 2 both going first and had floodgates so I got BTFOd twice

ban called by already fucking clown game

It was the jews

>>534319310
Chain MST to anti spell fragrance retard

>>534319310
>So then, if Ryzeal puts down Anti-Spell Fragrance, you literally have no way to win then.
I mean that's true of literally any deck that resolves Anti-Spell
Fucking retarded card

>>534321687
Most decks don't have a way around kaijis and nib AND a way to search ASF retard

>>534321052
holy shit how much gemmies did the glitch give

>>534320997
No fuck your max C nigger

>>534322041
no modern deck loses to a kaiju, grandpa

>>534322758
It's not about not dying to kaiju it's about being anti everything based off a 98% consistent line you ape.

>>534322295
how fast can you click in 15 minutes

>>534323157
That's all it was limited to? Dubbing lmao I no longer have empathy for these fags. If I knew that though I would have created an alt and rolled a couple thousand packs

sex with Sky Striker Aces

>>534323028
overlaying 2 4s is not a "line"

>>534323554
Yes.

>>534322041
>search ASF
How exactly? Please don't tell me you saw some retard waste 4 materials on an alembertian and thought that was a really strong play

>>534323794
>implying stopping 100% of outs is a bad play
retard

>Ryzeal downplayers
Is that what we are doing now? Every time a new deck comes out that is blatantly unfair to play against we pretend it is fine for (you)s?

>>534324485
nobody is downplaying ryzeal? we're just bitching about anti spell still being legal

So what are all the forms of removal effects in the game? Like so far i've learned that besides "destroy X" cards specifically state stuff like "put in GY" to avoid cards that say they can't be destroyed, same with cards that can use the opponents monsters as material for summoning. Are there any others? What do you do to get around a card that says it can't be targeted by effects? What other forms of removal are there?

>>534325308
>Destroy
>Banish
>Tribute
And best of all
>SEND

>>534324485
Ryzeal is a shit deck.

>>534305909
>K9 Vanquish Soul
Elaborate. I've been interested in VS but I don't know exactly how it works other than their cards having various effects by revealing specific elements from your hand. How is it able to work to be consistent and what are it's strengths?

>>534325835
what about stuff to counter anti-target?

>>534325835
Also
>SUCC (attach as material)
>Attach as equipt spell

>>534325308

>>534326332
Any card that doesn't target counters anti targeting. So "send/destroy/banish a card on the field" vs "target/select/choose a card and send/destroy/banish it"

>>534325308
>Destroy
>Banish
>Banish face-down
>Tribute
>Send to GY
>Send back to hand (extra deck monsters go back to the extra deck instead)
>Shuffle back into deck (again, extra deck monsters go back to the extra deck instead)
>Take control
>Use as fusion material
>Use as link material
>Attach to an Xyz monster as Xyz material
>Equip to a monster as an equip spell
>Put into spell/trap zone as continuous spell/trap

I think that's all of them. And all of these can be either targeting or non-targeting. If an effect says it targets (IE "target 1 monster: destroy it") then it targets. If it doesn't say it targets (IE "destroy 1 monster") then it doesn't target.

>>534325308
super poly is my favorite
I would put it in every fucking deck if I could

>>534326332
Are you asking how to stop cards that don't target? If so you negate it
>How else
You stop whatever effect it is going to do completely. For example if you are going to banish a card and it isn't targeting you activate lancea. Shit with board wide destruction immunity like blue eyes jet dragon and sfir works for destruction effects

>>534326910
Super poly is both a fair and nigger tier card. I love it and don't even get angry when my babies gets SUCKd

>>534305593
>>534307814
maliss noob here, I now get much of the deck but it's still not clear if you get maxx'd on turn 2 which is the shortest way to otk, accesscode line or double crypter? kinda odd no one uses update jammer actually

>>534326579
That is so autistic. I'm glad to know that now but I didn't know the ruling would be so specific.

>>534328804
Why is it autistic? It does exactly what it says. Jokes aside welcome to Yu-Gi-Oh. I advise clicking on the card instead of trying to parse from the little squished description since it is easier to read

>>534328804
You gotta have a bachelor's degree in english to play yugioh

>>534329462
I know 2 "pro" yugioh players and one is a GED haver and the other is a high school dropout.

>>534328804
it makes sense as far as mechanics go, the gay part is that it doesn't present itself very well for new players. who often end up finding out about it midgame

>>534329714
I'm talking about the degree to which your knowledge understands the written english language. The cards rulings are hyper specific based on inane words like "instead" and "and if you did:", down to the difference between a colon and a semi colon

>>534329823
>WTF how did my destruction immune monster get destroyed and sent to graveyard
>Haha I didn't destroy i sent it
I remember seething the first time this happened

>Ryzeal player spends two pops on white binder with dormouse next to her and wonders why she isn't get destroyed
So do all Ryzeal players just click buttons and hope it works? I've been noticing that they just use all of their pops as soon as possible

>>534330254
>the deck with a gorgillion pops just keeps clicking pop
yes

>>534330226
my learning experience was if/when.
>wtf is timing? what does that even mean, it missed?

>abyss dweller banned
>need another rank 4 for vaylantz
>craft pachy for gallant granite
I swear I'm not a stun player

>>534330545

>>534330748
cursed image, royal patchy isn't real it's just a myth

>>534330748
Put that behind a fucking spoiler anon, jesus christ, this is a blue board

>>534330748
based. Make a dedicated Pachy turbo deck now

>>534329132
It's just messy where you really have to think about every specific way a word is worded, even though effects are essentially the same in most cases.
>You can target 1 card you control; destroy it, then you can destroy 1 Spell/Trap on the field.
In most cases, this effect seems pretty easy to understand but because of the wording, If there was an opponents spell/trap that is untargetable, this could target it? But this is partially why I brought this shit up because I didnt' know if there was some weird ruling or what because of how silly this game can be. Even the chain system doesn't seem intuitive or consistent. Sometimes it will spam me to use a quick effect any time anything happens but then sometimes if an enemy is doing a chain I can't use that quick effect until after the chain resolves?

>>534331302
>Even the chain system doesn't seem intuitive or consistent.
thats the only thing that IS consistent and intuitive. Chains resolve in reverse order. Only gets confusing when chains get super fucking long or you throw in if/when horse shit

>>534331540
idk, it seems to be random with what non-conditional QE's are able to interact with chains or not.

>>534331302
>Sometimes it will spam me to use a quick effect any time anything happens but then sometimes if an enemy is doing a chain I can't use that quick effect until after the chain resolves?
your quick effect card probably has some restriction or they have up some floodgate. Post replay

>>534331302
Thats called spell speed, of which there are 3 and a 4th theoretical "highest spell speed" (but it just means the wording "your opponent cannot activate cards in response to this card" etc. There's also turn precedence, trigger effects, and ignition effects, which all follow timing order.
Learning spell speed is annoying but once you understand it, you can learn how to control chain order and it will seem less random and more intentional.

>>534331793
Is it just random or is there some way to figure that out.

So I'm testing out the new Centurion cards for the cup since I didn't get a chance to use them yet, and I don't get this.
Why is it more common to see Trudea at 2 than Primera at 2? Before I understood it, if you get Impermed on Trudea normal summon that was the end of your turn, but with Primus now you can still reach an endboard with Stand Up or Emblema Oath same as Primera. Is it just because if you have Stand Up with Primera that you can still get Atrii into rotation?
That seems a bit worse than getting to keep Trudea in the backrow if they shotgun an Ash vs your Primera and it stops you, so couldn't Trudea be seen as the better normal summon now?

>>534332425
Pic related is all you will ever need

>>534331793
>>534332425
Its a specific order of operations, that exists to maintain a legal gamestate and prevents game breaking interactions. Expample:
Opponent summons card with "on summon" effect on your turn and you have imperm in hand and no cards on field, the effect of the monster that was summoned will always happen first since it triggered on summon, then you can activate imperm in response to target and negate that monster, it acts like a "quick effect" but is just the normal speed of "normal traps", but if your opponent has a counter trap such as one of the solemn johnsons set and ready to activate and then activates it in response to your imperm, keywords are "counter trap", then that is the end of the chain under normal conditions since counter traps can only be responded to by other counter traps, but again this is under "normal" conditions.
I hope I explained this right but it can be rather complex

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>>534332710
There is absolutely no reason for it to be this retarded. MTG literally solved the stack system ages ago

>>534332942
Suck my ass magicfag

>>534332942
It's literally the exact same thing but explicitly stated step by step for people who need it. If you give a specific example you are having trouble with post it

>>534330748
Disgusting. This is a blue board.

Maliss is unironically everything wrong with modern yugioh.

>moe anime girl "monsters"
>cyberseslop
>requires hand trannies to stop
>braindead deck that takes 0 skill to play

Where is the old yugioh where monsters looked like summoned skull? I would even take Ryzeal at this point cuz they at least look like REAL monsters.

>>534333484
>No skill to play
Everything except this is true. It is one of the more skill intensive decks in the past several years because of how alinear it is

>>534333484
>>requires hand trannies to stop
Lolwat? Maliss are immune to every traditional handtrap in the game

>>534333484
>>moe anime girl "monsters"
nothing wrong with that
>>requires hand trannies to stop
you need to play one specific handtrap to stop them

>>534333662
Lancea is a traditional hand trap retards just forgot

>>534333662
Lancea and Chaos hunter.
>>534333621
>oong boonga me activate dormouse
>oonga boonga me activate underground
>oonga boonga me activate white binder and play on your turn

Stop lying.
>>534333696
>nothing wrong with that

This is why people ITT call you troons.

>>534333828
lingering floodgates aren't really what people are talking about when they talk about handtraps
although I'm aware lancea and especially droll are old as fuck

>>534333156
>It's literally the exact same thing
It isn't. Everything that isn't playing a land or the rare card cycling/discarding from hand adds to the stack and once something is added to the stack, anything that can be activated at instant speed can be activated. Playing a spell or activating any effect of any kind adds directly on top of the stack whether it interacts with previous effects or not. It's an extremely simple idea, something happens, if you have anything that can be activated at instant speed then you can have the opportunity to do so before another effect resolves.

i'll have to play some more games and see if something comes up again to post an example but master duel seems to choose for you when you can activate an effect even if it's non-conditional (i.e. if X is in your GY then QE, special summon Y) but the opposing player might be able to go through several chain of events before the game will give you the pop up to activate your effect.

killing snake eye fiendsmith then replacing it with an identical deck except this one is immune to ash/imperm/veiler is the most konami thing ever

>>534333662
That's why people hate the deck as much as they do. You need hand traps to have a realistic chance against them, and aside from Lancea which sucks against most decks, using a hand trap against Maliss is a gamble on whether or not they have an extender. You can't hold an Imperm or an Ash for a chokepoint where it's guaranteed to lower the strength of their board like with Blue-Eyes, you just have to shotgun them and cross your fingers. or cross your fingers your opponent is bad and plays into them super hard.
And if you just cut the regular hand trap lineup then you're crippling yourself vs every other deck.

>>534333851
everyone gets called troon around here, jahytroon

>>534334071
>master duel seems to choose for you when you can activate an effect even if it's non-conditional (i.e. if X is in your GY then QE, special summon Y) but the opposing player might be able to go through several chain of events before the game will give you the pop up to activate your effect.
You need to toggle ON if you want a prompt every single time an activation window appears. You'll find it in the settings somewhere
For simplicity Master Duel defaults to "auto" toggle which only lets you respond to activated effects

>>534333851
It is objectively a more skill intensive deck than most shit these days. Even a recent majors finals was thrown because the maliss player fucked up

>>534332858
>>534334071
Pretty sure it can be summed up with something like this
>Turn precedence
>Spell speed 1: normal spells, ignition effects, continuous spells activations (manual activations that don't normally activate in response to other cards)
>Spell speed 2: quick effects, quick play spells, normal traps, continuous trap activations and effects, continuous spell effects
>spell speed 3: counter traps
>Trigger effects go here, turn precedence is relevant, hence "chain blocking" (using triggers to consecutively activate will protect the previous effect from being responded to). Trigger order can be manually made by the player and the chain can be manipulated to a degree because of this
>spell speed 4: not real, but cards that cannot be responded to can activate at spell speed 2 and will almost always end the chain: Super Poly for example
But there's so much more nuance to it than that, this is super generic and it's not a concrete rule, wording is the most important factor to spell speed where it applies and thus, there are exceptions to the rule.

>play mermail
>brick
>brick
>brick
>3 hts
>2 fua imperm veiler
ok jewnami i get it i played more than 3 games today using an old deck so you had to fuck me up i will now build one of the 2 flavor of month trash decks

Is the Duel Pass Gold worth spending gems on?

What do you think bros, will they ever hit Fiendslop? Or should I craft 2 extra lacrimas and tracts?
>>534332436
You dont want too many centurions in your opener and you can cut down on trudeas because her effect doesn’t come up too often after you successfully set up and she’s quite accessible with stand up, emblema and bonfire.
She sucks ass into detonator too if that wasnt enough and she’s not a tuner for synchro plays.

>>534334071
It is LITERALLY the same thing you dumb ape. Read the chart. Your master duel response setting (bottom right) are either set or off or auto. Auto guesses when you might want to activate an effect vs giving you an opportunity every chance you have

>>534334721
fiendsmith is past its prime it's never gonna be meta again, I wouldn't expect any more hits

>>534334628
Reminder that MD uses a coinflip instead of rock paper scissors so they can EOMM you into playing for longer.

I think Master Duel screen transitions and the delay before inputs are accepted are too long
Why can't I press esc a billion of times in a single second to go back to the ranked menu after a duel?

>Maliss vs Maliss for my daily duel live
>hit fast forward
>literally 5 minutes later, replay is still going
>only on turn 3
Gee, how come people hate this deck so much?

>>534334071
I don't play mtg but it sounds like you're probably confused by SEGOC rules. This is a different game from mtg, don't expect it to be the same.
Trigger effects always go at the start of a chain unless they are triggers in your hand which function more like quick effects. Turn player gets the chance to activate all their triggers in a row, then the other player gets the chance if they have any as well, then it goes to the basic taking turns having a chance to activate quick effects. Mandatory triggers must go before your optional triggers.
This usually adds depth to the game because it requires you to plan ahead for the next chain, makes you optimally order your triggers, forces you to make decisions over giving up trigger effects to chain a quick to their trigger, and allows you to sneak vital effects underneath the others to break through an opponent's interruptions

Make sure you go into settings and turn "optional effect order" or whatever it's called to manual, and change your toggle to Switch or Switch/Hold so you have full control over when you do things.

>>534335019
>Complaint about taking 8 seconds to queue in a game where you are going to wait 8 minutes when you go second
What a bizarre complaint

>>534334652
If you complete it, obviously. 700 gems to get guaranteed 100 UR and SR materials and half your gems back.

>>534334652
Yes it pays for itself, gives you UR dust (by faaaar the most valuable resource in the game), its easy to complete and totally f2p when in other games it would require you actual money.
>>534334826
Was mostly thinking about getting the lacrimas and tracts to play fiendslop control and eventually building fiendsmith magical musqueteers.

>>534335230
Duel Pass fully refunds itself, not half.

>retard who can't read
>It's a magicfag
It is astounding how often this happens

>>534335120
You don't need to watch the whole replay. You can just immediately leave it and get the gems.

>>534335631
That's new (to me at least) they use to make you sit through all of it. I haven't done it in over a year for that reason

>>534335631
I know but I was curious to see how long the replay would take. 5 fucking minutes with the replay on fast forward, and both players look like they're playing independently.

I normal summon.
Opponent negates the summon.
Does it still counts towards missions?

>>534334652
Even if you only like complete it by 1/3 it's easily worth it for the UR points. But you'll complete it with like 40 days to spare even if all you do is play 1 game per day.
>>534335789
No, it's been that way from the start. It's just surrendering that doesn't give you mission completions. Alt-F4 on duel live might not give you it, I've never tested.

>>534334894
i genuinely believe this especially in rank up games they fuck you over just to rage queue

>>534333484
I agree with everything but
>moe anime girl "monsters
And
>braindead deck that takes 0 skill to play
Because while you can click yellow buttons against bad players and win any competent player will stomp you if you do that.

>>534335914
I think so

>>534335914
No, you didn't normal summon. You only used up your attempt to normal summon.

Relay Soul errata that allows it to also special summon monsters from the deck when?

>>534334894
If the coin flip were RPS people would just be schizo about claiming the game lies about what the opponent chose.
>ermmm but people could prove it was rigged by sniping each other
Same as how they could prove it was rigged by recording coin flips.

>>534336140
Just make a retrain that does that. Would be shit regardless unless you cheat out some retarded floodgate I can't think of off the top of my head

any meta fags here? what should i build maliss or the new rank 4 robots deck?

>>534335914
Think about like this, you’re performing a satanic ritual trying to summon lacrima to suck your dick, then, right before you finish bringing lacrima into the real world in comes solemn johnsom and kicks you in the nuts and messes all your shit ruining the entire ritual.
Now, would you consider lacrima summoned or not? Obviously not.

>>534335230
>>534335247
>>534335938
Thank you, friends. I assume i don't necessarily have to win some duels to get the most out of the pass?

>>534336474
Maliss has way more longevity. Robuts have about 3 months of relevance assuming Konami does similar hits as the ocg

>>534336474
they're both top tier
ryzeal is probably better in the short term (especially when Eclipse Twins gets released which buffs it a ton), but Maliss will last longer
in a years time (assuming our meta resembles the OCG) Ryzeal will likely have vanished while Maliss is still gonna be a top 5 deck

>>534336521
As long as you don't surrender you'll get some progress on it, but you get way more for winning. And it doesn't really matter since it's so easy to max the pass out. Go ahead and surrender if you're in an unwinnable game that's more than 10 seconds from actually being over.
You can also just wait until you've leveled it up more before buying the gold version.

Maliss is a lot like the Myutant set, but without the resource drawback and with no negates. So if you lose to Maliss, you would lose to Myutant too.

>>534336131
>>534336491
This game is just so fucking gay its already a pain enough to do 3 normal summons without taking an eternity and then you tell me this?

>>534336336
rigging RPS would be infinitely harder and way easier to prove than using stats to determine how likely someone is to close app after losing a coinflip and adjusting their turn order accordingly.

>>534336653
>>534336691
maliss it is then thank you

>lost to mikanko with a full board maliss
Sad, I fucked up by waiting too long to revive Binder, they kaiju my Crypter and took over my Apo so it was game over from that point, couldn't revive binder or set MTP07. Too greedy.

>>534336814
You only have to do missions once anon. Just play normally every day and ignore missions other than the last day of the month

>>534336856
>rigging RPS would be infinitely harder
No it wouldn't.
>want player to lose coin flip
>show them a tails
>want player to lose RPS
>show them the hand that beats the one they chose
The only reason people think this would be unriggable is because they're stupid enough to think losing the coin 5 times in a row means it's rigged.

Despite whatever anyone might say, Maliss is a very skill intensive deck when going second.
Any deck is strong going first, the true test is when you are going second.

>watching live duel
>it's a lightfield/arcana deck
>decks seems crazy
>one sided skill drain
>spam huge bodies
>literal turn skip
I assume it's literally bad because it's bricky/the nature of cointoss nature of the deck but what the hell how is this any different from ftks which get banned on sight

>>534334305
That's dumb but thanks for letting me know. That's why the chain system feels inconsistent I suppose.

>>534334797
Not my fault the default setting is retarded. Hopefully it'll feel more consistent now.

>>534336474
Maliss has a bigger banlist target on its back by virtue of every andy hating on it, its more vulnerable to the roach and the bird, is harder to play, has silver bullets that murder it turn 0. The upsides is that it benefits bigly from the upcoming ignister support.
Ryzeal is more braindead and more boring to play but it’s very sticky in upcoming formats with 3 other archetypes using ryzeals in some way (mitsurugi, onomats and heraldic beasts) can play going 2nd. The downsides is that its ridiculously expensive right now, gets hit hard by droll, purulia and maxx C and board breakers and its a lame ass black deck.

>>534330545
what are you trying to do bud

>>534336814
It doesn't matter. Not only are summon negates very rare and usually better saved for an ED summmon, or are also omni-negates that are better used on the summoned monster's once per turn effect, but if you don't finish that daily then just ignore it and it'll complete tomorrow or the next day.
You really don't NEED that 40 gems claimed immediately, it's already yours by being in your mission list.

>>534337228
>Not my fault the default setting is retarded.
Because there are SO many windows where you can activate it would be completely overwhelming for new players
Trust me you won't last long playing with toggle on permanently. You're meant to toggle on and off as you need to

So, if an Extra Deck monster wasn't properly summoned from the extra deck, if it's send from the extra deck to the GY it can't be special summoned by card effects, right?
So if I send White Binder to the GY with a Dogmatika card, even with the Trap or Hare they can't summon it, right?

>>534337223
>ftks which get banned on sight
There are dozens of legal FTKs including ones WAY better than Arcana Force like Gimmick Puppet or Volcanics.

>>534336709
Got it, thanks.

>>534337439
What's the ideal activation confirmation setting

>>534337460
correct

>>534337460
correct.
Also note that this also prevents you from summoning them from the graveyard with cards that ignore summoning conditions as well.

>>534336814
Dailies accumulate as you leave them incomplete until you have all different 9 daily missions.
The most efficient way of doing them is to complete all dailies but dont claim all the rewards. Claim only the special summon 5 monsters, win 1 duel and activate 3 spells missions. Then, next day only those 3 will show up.
Once you hit the final day of the season you claim them all.

>>534337460
I could be wrong but I think you can cheat out link monsters this way but not others?

>>534337586
Auto 90% of the time but ON 9% of the time to hit certain activation windows you will want to hit (Maxx c in draw phase or imperm on access chud) and 1% of the time on OFF to hid hand information

>>534337775
You’re wrong.
Rituals and every ED monster, as well as nomi monsters cannot be revived unless they were properly summoned previously in the game.

>>534337915
>Have a hand trap that can't do anything but can be activated whenever
>Leave on off
>Turn on right before 5th summon
>Enemy now thinks I have nib
There is a real skill with using the activation window in master duel to trick people

>>534337586
Switch+Hold. It combines both of the good ones letting you be toggled to auto/on/off depending on what will be most useful and also lets you hold M1 to immediately switch to ON or M2 to immediately switch to OFF. So you can be on auto and then slam down on M2 when you see Aluber to hide your Ash for the Branded Fusion.

As for Auto vs On, it's a matter of situation. Generally Auto is fine but there are times where you want it On. Do you have some quick effect you may want to use between chains, like a spot removal? Turn it to ON. Need the game to tell you the opponent is changing phases? ON. Etc. It's something you'll pick up as you play more.

>>534337775
The thing that's different about link monsters is that they must be summoned from the extra deck to the EMZ or a link arrow. But from the GY they can be summoned wherever.

>>534337273
nothing, just show people my cool fossil

>>534336691

Ryzeal only really became a huge problem because of Mitsurugi in the tcg

>>534338435
Ryzeal was the number 1 deck in OCG too and Mitsurugi doesn't even exist there

>>534338368
Link monsters have to be link summoned before you can do anything, because link summoning is it's own summoning restriction. You can ghost reaper red Ransom, banish it from your opponents deck and it won't resummom itself, because it hasn't been link summoned first.

i feel retarded for asking what to build now that i saw this beauty

>>534339424
Maliss

>>534338971
That goes for every extra deck type. They must be properly summoned first before they can be summoned from the GY/banish. That's why a card like Crimson Dragon says "This counts as a Synchro Summon.". A card like Waking the Dragon does not say anything like that so a monster summoned by it cannot be revived. Also some monsters will say "Must be" or "Must first be" Link/synchro/xyz/fusion summoned in which case they cannot be summoned by Waking the Dragon and only the latter could be summoned from GY/Banish.

A link monster still must be summoned the the EMZ or a monster zone a link arrow points to regardless of whether it's cheated out by something like Waking the Dragon.

>>534338971
Apparently this applies to all extra deck monsters, they need to be properly summoned via their procedure, because if they're sent to the GY directly from the extra deck, they are considered improperly summoned, so they cannot be special summoned at all from other locations by cards like monster reborn.

>>534339424
You are already using Maliss but just keep using it since currently it's one of the best decks that can use Impulse-chan.
Just be careful with regards to the attributes of handtraps and apollousa.

>>534339424
phantasm spiral. it's the only deck that can play every dominus trap with no drawback and it's pretty decent.

>>534335343
>Duel Pass fully refunds itself, not half.
I was considering the money you get exclusively from the gold pass, not the f2p route but looking at it the gold does fully pay for itself if you get to level 100

>>534339424
+1 for phantom spiral. Good old beat down a caveman can play

>>534340102
I wait til level 50 to get it so I can get 45 UR and like 300 gemmies instantly. There's no pressure, you could wait til 100 before going gold.

saw bunch of maliss lists in HIS site to figure how i build it but no one is playing allure of darkness like wtf? isn't that card insane?

>>534339424
>25 SR cp
>535 UR cp
Uh bro? Whats going on there

>>534340530
the deck is so bullshit that pot of greed but better is only mediocre compared to the rest of its cards

>>534340530
The deck already has a built in allure

>>534340530
Winmore, eats up space that could’ve gone to handtraps, you already have all the consistency you need with gold sarcs + cheshire already draws you enough.

>>534340530
It's not pot of greed but better, it's Allure of Darkness but better. And Allure is kinda bad on its own. Your summons from banish are once per turn and the combos already go through them all so you're not actually gaining off of the banish most of the time.
If the consistency gets hit hard enough then it'd be a good add, but currently it's not needed for the consistency, and is not Pot of Greed because it doesn't actually plus you.

These handcraps/non-engine wars are out of control man

But Konami cant be trusted to make going second suck less either after going too extreme with the dog ass experience that is Tenpai

>most people are still clinging to lancea even with ryzeal being out
fuck off with this card, I had my called by do jack shit against someone's roach because it was used against me

>>534340530
>get to turn 3 without winning because you only drew handtraps and your opponent didn't scoop turn 2
>draw and play allure
>just more handtraps
>dump hand like a tard
it only needs to happen 1 (uno) time to discourage playing it entirely.

>>534341765
>Lancea being used for a legitimate use
>Nyoooo ban it ban it ban it
Get fucked

>>534341765
funny how lancea only seems to counter cards that should be banned anyway

i guess it makes sense for maliss to bypass a lot of handtraps by banishing themselves and like going off grid and setting cause they're supposed to be hackers or whatever

>>534341696
Problem with going second decks is that more often than not they end up being OTK shit.
Can't have a going second deck that's simply good against multiple disruption, builds a decent endboard, but has difficulties killing you on the same turn?
Just add a "You can only attack with 1 monster during your Battle Phase." lingering effect on their cards just like Maliss has with their link lock and I think it will be good to go.

The field spell being able to negate stuff that’s blocked by a chain is crazy what the fuck is that card

>>534340679
>pot of greed that you need to summon and have a name in hand to banish to have any effect
>better
you must think moray of greed is the best card ever printed

Should Maxx "C" really be banned?
What if you opponent doesn't use going second cards like Ultimate Slayer, Forbidden Droplet or Super Polymerization?

>>534343467
it's called powercreep

>>534343540
No. Put it back to 3

Am I the only staying in plat so I can farm gold gem every season ?

>>534344129
Most people play casually anon

Either Theo or Adin deserve a retrain with a quick effect special summon + a continuous effect that doesn't allow the opponent to ritual summon or activate effects of ritual monsters.

>>534343467
Yeah. They probably did it just so you could use it at the same time as Detonator, so you wouldn't have to pick and choose like you do with say, Golden Allure Queen, but it wasn't necessary.
Pushed meta decks always get these little bonuses that other decks don't get that always end up retarded when stacked on top of the high quality of all their cards.

>>534344129
There's no point in going past Plat if you're not a full on compfag.

>>534343540
What Western players think "should" happen is of zero consequence to Konami's decisions and this has been discussed to death over and over.

>>534344129
After a few years of tryharding now I just don't care anymore and always attempt to end the season on Gold I at most.
I only ultra tryhard on events and DC.

for a card that is at 2 a lot of my opponents seem to have maxx c glued to their hands.

>>534345083
Can Dogmatika get a good card that actually fixes its problems instead?

>>534344129
wouldn't you get more ranking up to master?

This format is so fucking weird.
Ryzeal games are fun as fuck but Maliss is making me want to go on hiatus and not play again until it fucks off. And I'm seeing far more of the latter than the former.

>>534345623
No because it's not the designated meta relevant archetype so you can only suggest weird and gimmicky cards.

>>534345708
I started the game 2-3 months ago and struggle with quite a lot of deck since I dont know their choke point. I just built Maliss and am in need of gems, again. I dont think I'd reach master 1 without starting to hate my life.

I'll probably tryhard for Master in some months but for now I like to keep it simple and play for dailys.

>>534345501
start compiling data. The second you actually start compiling you will realize that yeah a deck at 2 in EVERY deck comes up about as often as you would think (~23% of the time)

>>534346103
yea, luckily it doesn't matter too much when most gems are from events.

at first I didn't really like Synchros but then I played the CDA structure deck which was basically entirely Synchros in its ED and I ended up falling in love with the mechanic
is there any decks like that but for Xyz monsters? where it's like, majority Xyz's in the ED? and are they at least playable? I don't need them to be meta, just playable will do

>>534346818
ryzeal, goblins, sharks

>>534346818
You can try pure ryzeal for an xyz deck. There's also utopia but they won't be better until the new onomats support.

>>534346818
Ryzeal is the current best deck.
If you want something off-meta then Sharks are also pretty good right now. Very underrated. But also pretty expensive since their ED needs a lot of water deck specific URs.
Goblins are also good, somewhat better than Sharks and get a boost from being somewhat anti-Xyz which is good into Ryzeal.

>>534342272
I'll never forget when my hand was bricked up and a Maliss player discarded his entire hand and surrendered because he didn't draw anything with Allure.

How does this look for the cup? Acceptable? Anything I should fuck with?

>>534345708
You only get like 400 gems a month which is NOT worth the extra effort it takes to raise to rank 1 every month imo. If it is for you then go for it.

Why do FS Ryzeal decks not include the Chorozo line to turn a FS starter into Duodrive?

UP-players. Ryzeal is a FINE deck. It's not shit and it's not oppressive.

>queue up
>people scoops assuming you know what you are doing
man i wonder how much can i climb before i actually need to know how to play maliss like a human

>>534348736
true and no I'm not, but I mean it's triple that

>>534348558
It's fine. I don't like Synchro Rumble so I'd cut it to hit 40, it's very win-more.
It'd be nice to have an 8 that is reliable interruption like Berserker of the Tenyi but it's not super important. I'd definitely find space for Chaos Archfiend by cutting Black Rose or Shenshen though. It helps clean up boards which Centurion is really bad at. Might as well run Shooting Star if you're using Quasar.

Also why is there no Crossout? Droll also might be worth it over some of the hand traps unless everyone else is on Centurion. Oh and Saronir doesn't have much use in the deck. You don't really need a 4th copy of Lubellion, even 3 is debatable. And Bystials don't seem like fantastic hand traps for what the meta will be.

>>534349867
Still wouldn't consider an extra 1000 worth it but like I said, ymmv.

I lost a game to a Buster Blade dragon lock today and I feel like shit about it

>>534350125
I see, I see. I've had Centuar-ion for a while but I haven't actually played it a ton and not since the new stuff dropped (though it doesn't look like it's changed that much). Thanks for the advice though.

>>534349867
It's not triple.
>start season at gold V
>get 400 for climbing gold
>then 600 for climbing to plat 1
vs
>start Diamond V
>get 600 for climbing Diamond
>then 1100 for climbing to Master 1
It's actually 700 a month more compared to ending at Gold/Plat 1.
That's 8400 per year so basically 1 month's extra. It definitely adds up but to me isn't worth the grind if you aren't enjoying it. If playing the game becomes work then you should start comparing it to how much you get from your actual job vs gem prices before you start putting in "overtime" with Master Duel.

>>534351609
huh, you're right that does put in perspective how negligible it is in reality.

>>534338429
I want to start playing different pends other than Vaylantz but Ryzeal meta is the worst time to do it...

Look, I fixed Lyrilusc

>>534351223
I lost a rank up match to that trap that punishes you for using maxx c and discards your hands then draws 2. it can always get worse.

SEXO

>>534352149
>>534352486
I'd sexo both of these

>Go on a 18 game winstreak with Maliss
>Get to my Master 1 rank up game
>Lose the coin toss and the only name I draw is March hare with no other Maliss cards
>Stop when I realize my next game is my derank game to Master 3
Fuck man I really don't want to derank but I should probably stop playing since the game clearly doesn't want me to win

I think I hate Dimensional Barrier as a card
I went three whole turns under it with a full Synchro deck

>>534353818
>another victim of konami blatant rigging
we told you

This card annoys me
There is not a single dorklord who benefits off being on your opponents side of the field.
At best, you have to jump through hoops to descent or mindcontrol just for two monsters, AND it locks you out majority of handtraps.

>>534348558
You need gargoyle

>open dogshit (both maxx cs, two extenders, called by)
>opponent scoops after I called by his draw phase maxx c
phew

I love how this card is an ash/imperm magnet
like, you fool, I don't need fountain, I can use this card as a bridge into fur hire and spright

>>534354801
>two Maxx C and called by
>dogshit
why would you called by a roach anyway if you have one in hand and you have zero play?

>>534297785 (OP)
>>534302641
>before Ryzeal
some faggot posts the meme translation of Detonator every thread along with OCG (Oriental Card Game) pie charts
>Ryzeal flops
now we get the cardboard backpedaling as seen here >>534305362

Never trust toilet paper stats

How good is the Crystron loaner? It always seemed pretty decent when I went against it in ranked

>>534354192
Almost like it's a cost or something.

>>534355493
The heart of the cards guided me (one of the extenders was Bonfire)

Thoughts on Unchained? Why does it not see as much play nowadays?

>>534356134
it's not as good as the really good decks
and its own cards are better in Yubel than they are in Unchained

>>534355816
In a deck that already -2s itself for everything because its old
In the same era as fenrir

>>534356134
It's a solid deck that got overshadowed by Yubel being a stronger engine that's also able to set up the Unchained interruptions and also Unchained is difficult to play optimally. And now maybe Live Twins is doing the same thing, especially once their support releases. Not really a deck worth picking if you want to play a high tier deck, but probably is still somewhat underrated.

>Unlimited cards increased to 4 in decks

What would change?

>>534356593
>Because it's old
We don't complain that Silent Swordsman takes a turn to level up in the year 2025, anon. You're so close to getting the point

>>534356630
People would play their best cards at 4 instead of 3 and would cut the cards they're only playing to hit the 40 card minimum.

>>534356630
>I can play 4 Garnets now
Watch me draw all of them on the 1st turn like a boss

Are there even decks where block dragon is even used anymore?

>>534357603
adamancipator, same as always
not that anyone plays that anymore

>>534357603
Not ones that anyone plays.

>>534357603
Nope. As always it could go back to 1 at TCG and no one would care but the playerbase would flip their shit anyways

>>534356630
We would have to start saying "koi" and "yosh" at the start of the duel; "e-kay" to attack and "todomeda" for lethal.

>>534357974
Sounds horrible.

>>534356764
no the point being is its an obsolete card in the era it was made. Like how ashened dies to ash in the era of 1 card archetypal starters.
Its like trying to excuse the countless dbp decks that lose to goat/edison control unironically. Cards like these have no home format even as pack filler.

>>534352149
>extend
>extend
>search/dump/extend
>search more
This kind of card design is everything that's wrong with modern yugioh.

>>534359043
What's wrong with modern Yugioh is Lyriluscs being untiered

>>534356134
Unchained is unironically a very fair and balanced deck and yugioh isn't really made in a way for fair decks to succeed.
I still have no idea why they limited sharvara so quick in the TCG. Wait, no I do know, its because the deck could be built for like 100$ and they can't have cheap decks beating 1000$ paypig decks.

>>534359335
lol I remember that like 2 week period where Unchained was the best deck in the format and I actually thought that if that was the power level of the best deck in the game then the game was headed in a good direction
but no it was actually just a mistake konami never intended so they hit the fuck out of it on the banlist then released snake eye/yubel/tenpai

>login
>negative gemmies

Bros...

>>534359896
kek post screencap
how deep are you? how many months in the konami gemmy mines for naughty boys?

>>534359896
Enjoy your gem loan.

>>534359896
fake

>>534359962

>>534361385
oh its nothing you'll be out in a week

>>534361520
More like soon as event starts.

>>534361385
Did you pull anything good with your loan?

>>534344129
I fell to gold half a year ago. I told myself I should get around to climbing, but I never have the time.

>>534352090
yeah, it's really not the right time to play anything pend
most pend petdeckers either took a MD pause or started playing other decks

>>534356265
>>534356604
What makes Yubel so good in comparison?

>>534359335
I'm having fun with it though I still get a bit tripped up in looping the destruction effects figuring out who to summon in what order. Also not sure what to do if Shyama is in your opening hand??? but I really like being able to pop traps on opponents turn to activate various summons

>>534321687
Ryzeal can search the card out of a 92% opening single card combo that also ends on Detonator and a bunch of other stupid shit.

>>534361778
Unfortunately no.

>>534362218
I'm playing zarc turbo just for fun. But yeah it's quite awful. Decks have zero option to play turn 2 and ryzeal eat you alive.

>>534326128
It's an aesthetic thing. They visually blend together.

Mechanically, K9 is a Handtrap XYZ archetype with the exact attributes VS plays. Do they have natural synergy.

>>534362515
Yubel gives you a lot more combo options and being able to contact fuse from the GY for what is functionally an omni-negate which itself extends basically right back INTO the same omni-negate is fucking nutty. Its particularly useful for protecting against nib which is gonna eat unchained's ass.
Also yubel monsters enjoy being popped while unchained enjoy popping things.

>>534362515
>What makes Yubel so good in comparison?
It just does the exact same thing but even more so. Whatever your Unchained endboard is Yubel puts up all of that plus Apo plus Phantom plus Nightmare Pain and it does it all off one card.

>>534362515
Yubel just has stronger one card combos and is usually harder to stop on top of having the ability to put up early negates to protect its combo with Phantom of Yubel and largely, any deck that can put up some fiends on board can go into Yama to get Sharvara and do a large percent of what pure Unchained aims to do.
And while Unchained CAN be surprisingly good at breaking boards and OTKing going second, Yubel doesn't actually need to truly break the board to OTK thanks to its damage reflection gimmick.

>>534362218
I really regret not playing more complex decks in past metas when things were less extreme. But then again, there were less good nonengine cards and Baronne chixao blackout pass could eat you alive

>>534342970
AHHHHHHHHH

THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE!!!

>>534345771
>until it fucks off.
Then you should quit Yu-Gi-Oh as Maliss will be meta relevant for as long as Sky Striker has been. That's 7 years btw.

>>534364000
People arent playing teraherz as much

>>534363609
Pends have ton of cool toys and fair amount of FTK tools, problem is how fucking slow and bricky decks can be, not to mention that pretty much everything can fuck over you.

Droll, shifter, roach, anti backrow and list goes one, Also link co dependency is gay.

>>534363609
Chances are, at that time you'd be feeling the same things you're feeling now, and end up not playing them.
And the future you'll be feeling the same things you are now but about this format.

The only thing you can do is either play a meta deck or stop letting your fears of "but what if I go second and get my cards destroyed :(((" stop you from playing the decks you want to play instead of fantasizing about a non-existent meta.

>>534348558
And I wish I made centurion instead of troonpai

>>534364212
Textman was all over the place in 2022 and 2023 tho

I had way more fun after i started combining my pet decks with a relevant meta deck desu

>>534355187
>Don't ash/imperm
>Playing normal runic control
>Ash it
>It's runic sprite

>>534362515
Until ryzeal gets eclipse twins yubel starting with a kaiju and any of they/them's one card starters is game. Yubel is also good going first against Ryzeal becauze the interruptions get rid of bodied and will quick effect get rid of duo drive before it can activate to search

>>534359896
You're going to have to pay up with your body, anon

>>534356630
>4 engage
>4 inter the void
>4 upstart goblin
T-thanks tempai and exodia needed a buff

>>534364497
Yeah and sometimes the Prank Kids player blew up all their cards before they could put up their defenses. Or the guy still playing Drytron Herald got to set up a million omni negates. Sometimes the Fluffal player got BTFO by the Swordsoul player's high amount of non-engine+consistency.
It's nothing new that you can be put into unwinnable positions depending on the coin flip and your hand.

>>534364953
Endymionchads...

>>534356630
>3 bodies off Malicious
Probably some fucking nasty shit from herospics

>yu-gi-oh's most famous mathemagician jesse perez shilling ghost reaper to counter ryzeal
lol

>>534365095
We don't know how good we had it

>>534365543
People say that about most metas while dooming over the current one.

>>534364283
Tenpai should still be playable enough anyways. If you want a nice tec, you can put in two gold sarc and a blaster to give you two more starters at the cost of a brick

>>534365717
Yeah the player count being at an all time low has nothing to do with the meta getting worse and worse

>>534365175
Its not the worst option.
Plus it can be useful against other decks if you have the ED space.

>>534366202
Hey now
It could also be because of the UR bloat every deck is getting to maximize profit on who's left!

>>534366202
OK, you're free to think every meta is worse than the last. I personally do not want to go back to Drytron Herald meta(when the playerbase was the highest).

Pends have lot of issues that can't really be fixed by just shoving bunch of 1 card starters, sure it make deck playable and decent but still far weaker than whatever meta.

DDD recently topped and people are trying solfa, but I really doubt that decks going do anything on serious tournos.

>>534366031
Sarc+Blaster's been pretty standard in pure Tenpai since it got all its hits in MD since it needs it even without Paidra+Geroku limited.

>>534366478
How many pends are even viable

Magicians
Zarc
Vaalmonica
Soflacords
DDD

am i missing anything

>>534366651
>Magicians
>Zarc

Those are same thing, I mean, it's yuya.dek. Also dracoslayer top small tournos from time to time.

>>534366478
Any mechanic can be made good if they get given good enough cards for a good enough deck. People said the same about Fusions back when IDS was the best fusion deck or Rituals before Voiceless was added. Hell, I've seen people saying the same about synchros lately just because there haven't been many good synchro decks made recently.
If pends are not good it's because Konami does not make them good.

>>534366651
I wish I could say Melodious but to call that a pend 'archetype' would be a bit of a stretch'

>>534366445
It was high because it happened during release and is probably what caused tbe massive exodus soon after. It was especially bad because of the coinflip exploit. The deck dies going second and even more after they hit benten

>>534366904
Yeah, that meta sucked.

>activate crossout
>negate chinks impermanence
>chink activates ANOTHER imperm
>it just fizzles out

so this is the famous chinese intellect I keep hearing about

>>534366223
he is playing voiceless voice right now which does have the ED space for multiple targets so I guess that's why
still a bad investment imo, ultimate slayer is probably better though people are starting to play starliege dragon for targetting protection

>chinkoid pops my evenly
>suddenly scoops
sasuga

Beetroopers have too many rhinoceros beetles. It needs a sister/rival archetype called the Beettalion that's full of stag beetles.

>>534366793
Pends never were exactly good, strongest decks from MR3 era abused something else to get there, floodgates for Qli and Rank 4 plus cockmaster in case of PEPE. It was just okay, and maybe bonked you later via pend 5.

As now pends have to play against uber fast decks that can setup from turn 0 and deal with links completely kneecapping any sort of fancy play. Playerbase attitude with pendulum mechanic don't exactly help.

>>534366031
It isnt about playability it is the fact I fucking hate this deck and centurion has cute girls and some fun lines. I fucking hate this boring ass deck

>playing against ryzeal
>use three handtraps
>opponent still ends on 3 pops and a monster negate
what's the point of handtraps again

>>534367743
You're being silly if you think they can't make good one card combos for pend decks.
>BUT SCALES CAN BE DESTROYED
>OR FLOODGATED!!!!
That's not a unique weakness that cannot be overcome through good cards.
>but you have to.... GO MINUS PUTTING UP SCALES
Yeah and fusion summoning goes -2 if you're using polymerization, but that doesn't mean there can't be good cards that plus you enough to offset that.

People not liking pends is a far bigger hurdle for them to overcome in getting a good deck than the mechanics themselves.

ryzeal is an awful deck that has to rely on stun cards to win like any rogue deck

>>534298510
It's obvious that Konami is pushing Maliss as a favorite deck with bundles free packs, all cards on release, unlimited while Ryzeal isn't even on cover of its booster pack, Japs love two things in Yugioh, their little loli girls on cards and combo slop, Lancea and Soul Drain will be limited to 1 to protect Maliss

>>534368496
>Retard put anti spell
>Kashitra
>Or just summoned Diabellze
>lol u can't play.

Yeah just play better cards lmao. And scale/monster pop would be far less issue if links weren't obligatory.

>>534369032
No other deck has ever lost to cards before, good point.

>>534369119
Losing to shifter or lancea is one thing, you can play around those and even make decent board depending of deck in question.

Problem is when there is ton of thing that stop pends fast, and get worse on BO3 settings. There is also issue with lack of archetype EDs that really don't help decks.

>>534368427
To bully weak decks and make you feel better about yourself because a free interaction without prior setup is skillful.

>>534368496
DBarrier's interaction with Pends is disgusting however and it should be banned for that reason alone
Actually it should be banned in general but especially because of that

>making TY-PHON on my turn
Kek. Why did they have to make Ryzeal such a pathetic fucking deck

>>534369803
When Ryzeal first had its card revealed I just thought I could search out cards to summon Ding on my opponents turn withouut babel

>>534339424
You dismantle it because it's a normal trap

>it's literally compare hands simulator even in silver
>play 1 card, opp quits
>see opp 1st card no ht, quit
yea im done. this is no longer fun

>>534371023
Hand traps are out, board breakers are in. Tactics meta.

>blue eyes playing kashtira
no dignity.

there is just something about blue eyes players that I just absolutely despise

>>534372048
It's jealousy. Not throwing shade, I feel it too. The knowledge that as one of Konami's favorite children they will never suffer adversely for too long gets to me.

>>534371023
You and your opponents are gay and lack confidence.

>>534371608
I played against Kashtira stun once and I wanted to an hero.

>>534366651
shs

Tearlaments was much fairer to play against than Maliss.

>>534361385
you can pay that off in an hour if you take off your pants and bend over for me

>>534375085
I had the opportunity to play Ishizu-Tears vs. Maliss in the Unlimited Event. It was a very fun duel.

Idk how far away we are from the day where the current meta is at the same power of Ishizu-Tears, but somehow it doesn't feel that far off. Especially when you consider that JUHU powercreeps full-power Maliss too...

>>534369726
This one I can actually agree with. Stopping pendulum summons and negating pendulum summoned monsters would be more in line with the others, but negating all pendulum monsters and stopping all their summons is a too much.
And like you say Dbarrier in general is too much and should just be banned regardless.

>>534376405
>Silver bullets shouldn't exist for me, but it's oke for everyone else.
Nah

>>534376979
Dbarrier against pends isn't a silver bullet its a nuclear bomb

>>534376979
nta but I yearn for a metagame where mispolymerization is not only viable, but good.

>>534376979
Not sure how you read that from my post that said Dbarrier is too much against every deck type it works against.

>meta is just link slop and xyz
The GOAT

>>534377446
Is...................................that..............a LIGHT...................................Fiend?

>>534377446
Post mirrorjade, he's your real boss monster.

>>534377446
nigger deck

>>534375085
Linkslop >>> Contact fusion degen combos
any person who saw more than Rulkallos Apo pass or a chink playing this kind of decks can't say otherwise. they are the most annoying deck to deal with going second right after Halq FTKs cause you have to sit through 20 minutes before they are finished.

>>534377446
>monster effect monster effect monster effect monster effect monster effect continuous spell monster effect
good luck going second against Ryzeal

Synchro is the most fair extra deck summoning mechanic because even at its worst, it still demands that you follow the rules of tuner + synchro.

Xyziggers do that one card slapped on top of one single other card.

"Fusion" summoning nowadays is just an excuse to send monsters with grave effects directly from your deck- if they even bother using monsters as material anymore (Azamina)

Links didn't even bother pretending to have game balance in mind when they came out

>>534375085
Maliss is more like Tenpai
Just completely uninteractive one card combo garbage that wins the game immediately upon resolving one card effect with no ability to counterplay beyond floodgates

>my opponent can combo off for 5 minutes straight
>oh but if I dare to try and think on how I'm gonna play through my opponent's interruptions then I run out of time
man, fuck the timer, I understand why it's there but it's not fulfilling the purpose it should

>>534378565
And Ritual?

>>534378289
I summon him on their turn with banishment and remove their detonator. He protects my field for the turn.

>>534378836
Not extra deck, but if you want my humble opinion, the game would be much better if rituals got half the attention that went to fusions.

>>534378565
>Xyziggers do that one card slapped on top of one single other card.
Ranking up has literally always been part of XYZ identity

>>534377446
>deck is called braindead
>literally one of the hardest deck to master
Explain this mdbabs

>>534380014
it makes you braindead due to choice paralysis

>>534378565
Xyzs literally always done that plus have requirements to be met in order to do that minus zoodiacs.

So are we skipping the Synchro event or nah?

>>534379863
Not ranking up, I'm refering to 1 card Xyzing like typhon and Zoodiacs.

>>534380706
>typhon
A card infamous for being terrible?

>>534380835
Being bad doesn't make it not degenerate. XYZiggers always try making that excuse and I'm not hearing it.

>>534380923
gonna cry about S-Force next?

>>534380923
The whole game is about being "degenerate". This isn't exclusive to any card color.

>>534380923
>fucking ty-phon is degenerate
I've heard it all now kek

>>534381014
Yes, all link summoning is inherently degenerate
>any 2 monsters = any of 7 different cards in your extra deck
disgusting.

>>534381083
Correct, but there are degrees of degeneracy and the black cards have tried their damnedest to reach the bottom of the barrel.

>>534381170
Ty-Phon's SUMMONING MECHANIC is degenerate, yes.

>>534381472
We've found the only person to ever lose to Typhon lmao

>>534381472
You're just mad about imaginary rules you made up.

>>534381583
>>534381528

I'm mad about the rules KONAMI made up then disregarded. If things were my way, TY-Phon would require 2 monsters and have a better effect to compensate.

>>534381682
>if I had my way this borderline unplayably bad card would be nerfed
I'm glad you don't work at Konami then

>>534378289
branded doesn't give a single remote fuck about destruction

>>534381682
>if I had my way this borderline unplayably bad card would be nerfed
correct. And I'd nerf everything else into irrelevancy too if I could get away with it.
Graydles 2026, it'll be our year, just you watch.

>>534381682
The rules of the game are that cards can do things that they say that they can do.

>>534381865
And some cards do things that shouldn't be allowed. According to me (the arbiter of all that is good and bad, just to clarify.)

>>534381864
>Graydles
>Equiping monsters to other monsters
Sorry anon this breaks the rules that Konami made up, Grayles are degenerate garbage

>>534381472
people are getting caught up on the typhon part because it really is a shitty cope card but I get the point you're making

>>534382042
Actually, there's nothing in the game which prevents monsters from being turned into Equips
In fact, Pegasus' signature monster from the original series does just that.

>>534382042
Nuh uh, spells do it all the time.

>>534382253
It's a dumb point. Cards being able to do unique things is a good part of the game.
Typhon's easy summoning condition is a tradeoff for his extremely punishing restriction on the rest of your turn, and it's good that cards which make going second stronger exist.

>>534382407
>Actually, there's nothing in the game which prevents monsters from being turned into Equips
And there's nothing in the games preventing 1-card XYZ summons

>>534382410
Monsters do not go in the spell/trap zone. A card saying you can put one there does not make it OK. Unless you think that 1 card Xyz existing because cards say they can is OK.

>>534382426
Unique is actually very bad for the game's health. See any viable alternate win condition.

>>534382510
Try Xyz summoning castell with a single level 4 monster and tell me how it goes.

>>534382558
>tfw the most viable alt wincon is still exodia

>>534382426
yeah that's a better way to see it and I think you could only start to dislike it when you start to compare summoning types to each other and what each of them are able to do uniquely and that's sort of a different topic

>>534382706
>try adding a HERO to hand with dark magician and tell me how it goes
what point do you think you're making here? that typhon has different text on it to castel?

>>534382837
>he doesn't know about dark HEROgician
>>534382963
people really go to the duel academy to learn this stuff

>>534382837
That just because a card says 2+2=5 doesn't mean that I should value what that card says as anything other than malarkey konami is trying to sell me in order to advance their hidden agendas.

>>534382963
>the origins of surrendering
imagine having to go to this class

>>534383067
you're playing rituals so it's a given

ty-phon in maliss y/n

>>534382963
How many courses do I need to pass before I can manifest my waifu card spirit?

>>534383148
Ryzeal feels like typhons best matchup honestly it's winning me a lot of games lately. But you're usually locked out of it in Maliss so I doubt its worth it

>>534382963
>The Basics of Ranks
>It's just identifying playground combos like gravity bind

>>534334557
>oonga boonga me activate dormouse
>oonga boonga me activate underground
>oonga boonga me activate white binder and play on your turn

the deck takes 0 skill and generates too much advantage. Its worse than snake eyes by a mile.

This is my favorite card that I never summon and just send to the GY

>advanced tribute summon
>tribute S/T, tribute opponent's monster, tribute opponent's card

>advanced ritual summon
>ritual from deck? ritual from grave? tributes ed monster?

>advanced fusion summon
>fuse from literally anything from anywhere, including S/T and opponent's monster

>advanced synchro summon
>CLEAR MIND

>advanced xyz summon
>RUM, all that xyz that rank-up for free

>advanced pendulum
>pendulum summoning extra deck monster?

>advanced link summon
>solitaire using all other summoning mechanic

All the problems in yugioh would be solved if we got a new REAL yugioh anime.

>>534334628
You mean 1 flavor of the month, maPISS

>>534383915
Rush is better than VRAINS.

>>534383960
And yet it has no impact on the actual card game, curious.

>>534342272
>>534343467
>>534346103
>>534350125
>>534352149
>>534352486
>>534355187
>534355187

YNBAW

>>534383915
they should make the ocg structure anime

>>534383915
I don't care about fixing problems but I want a new real anime yeah

Modern yugioh would be better if there wasn't waifu bullshit and handtraps everywhere.

>>534384463
Zoodiacs caused this but almost 10 years later you all are still not ready for that conversation.

>>534384574
combo fun. handtrap not fun. waifu also not real monster. This is real monster.

Is Lava Golem good against Ryzeal or do they revive detonator with trap card?

>>534384698
Waifus have been around since the beginning nignog
The problem is that waifu decks nowadays are mostly soulless

>>534384772
if they have two monsters on field, then they most likely managed to search plug in
that's still eats like, 3-4 disruption tho, and turns off cross for a bit so that you can even belle the plug in

Why did this insect pile guy surrender after he let me do my whole combo

>>534384981
Back then waifu decks didn't exist waifu cards did but they weren't fucking everywhere like they are now.

>>534385043
>waifu decks didn't exist
gemini elf literally the OG

>>534384698
Waifu cards existed since forever you dumbass. And compared to other card games ygo is really tame.

>>534385084
Thats not a deck. That's one card. inb4muh herpies. They still looked like monsters. maPISS looks like waifu slop.
>>534385087
you're lying.

>>534385204
>Thats not a deck. That's one card
>he doesn't know

>>534385084
Ah yes, the iconic gemini elf archetype populated only by copies of Gemini elf. It's one thing to disagree with him, but you're just being disingenuous for what purpose?

>>534385204
Oh you sweet summer boy isn't even aware of Gemini Elf beatdown

>>534385291
It was from before archetype was a thing dumbass
And she bends the whole meta around her

>>534385291
He is disingenuous because he is a transformer.
>>534385318
Its not an archetype deck and back then there were other beatdown decks too, they also didn't look like moe slop either and still looked like monsters like most og yugioh cards.

>>534385043
Harpies.

>>534385480
>Its not an archetype deck
there was no archetype dumbass
>back then there were other beatdown decks too
all bow downs to gemini elf

>>534385513
see >>534385204
>>534385542
burn, exodia ect..

>>534385480
>they also didn't look like moe slop either and still looked like monsters like most og yugioh cards.
ah, you're the anti-japanese poltards
nevermind that

>>534385043
That's just because archetypes weren't common back then so your deck usually had little thematic consistency. And one of the very few archetypes that DID exist back then was a waifu one.

>>534385607
>burn, exodia ect..
retard

tfw harpies is the first "archetype"

>>534385615
dont forget your dilator.

>>534385460
At the risk of falling for bait, let me spell out the point more clearly.

A Waifu deck is a deck whose monsters are mainly comprised of female monsters designed in such a way that are meant to be sexually appealing.
Examples include Harpies, Amazoness, Trickstars, Maliss

The issue is that this particular type of deck has been becoming much more frequent when compared to other types of deck (excluding dragons because dragons will always be the most oversaturated niche)

>harpies still look like monsters!!!!
Don’t make me go and find a Normal Warrior monster that’s just some guy with a weapon, anon.

>>534385865
literally gemini elf deck

>>534385204
Nigga, thread can go bump limit just by posting whatever DM, Digimon, Pokemon or whatever waifu card, hell, main reason that Weiss is somewhat relevant is because waifufaggotry.

Nothing stop you or anyone else from playing dragon, robots or whatever horrid creature deck.

>>534384698
the stardust dragons are so ugly

>>534381472
How about "shut the fuck up and free my boy"

>>534386016
That's it, I'm officially too old, I fell for bait. Just take me out back and put me down before I start rambling about how Vampire Lord used to be limited.

>>534386037
>want to play ryzeal
>is worse than mapiss
>jewnami shills troon deck more than robot deck

Why you lying.

>>534386121
>The most devious of black edged cards comes from the outer edges of blackness

I kneel, John Konami

>>534385865
>female monsters designed in such a way that are meant to be sexually appealing.
And how is this even a problem again?
Waifu deck usually isn't even good
Look at Magician Girl

And we barely get any anyway
Maliss is the only one in the last 12 months

>>534386247
>Ryzeal is too weak for me to play so I have no choice
Holy shit, why not just stick to solo mode if you need the game to be on super baby mode?

I never wanna see the animation of ultimate slayer ever again. It's the absolute worst thing you can ever see.

>>534386283
Ultimately, I just want to sneak it in with Ryzeal cross in the grave >:)

>>534386420
I know its a crazy thing for you to understand but not everyone wants to play some waifu garbage deck. Not everyone is like you troons who enjoys fantasizing about cutting their dicks off.

>>534386345
>It's not happening
>It's happening but it's not that bad
>It's happening but it's not even happening all that frequently (you are here)
>It's happening more and that's a good thing

I can name 10 waifu decks within the past 5 years, can you name me 10 beast decks that focus on actual (non-anthro) animals?

>>534386541
he's saying you're too dumb to pilot ryzeal

>>534386613
All these new decks play themselves.

they should make a new version of evenly that lets you banish at any point during the main phase. that would save this game.

>>534386583
>I can name 10 waifu decks within the past 5 years
name it
then i can just name literally any other deck released in the same period

>Waifu and pedo shit
vs.
>Fucking sexy puppets
Obvious and clear winner here Puppets

>>534386671
exactly
and you're still too dumb to pilot one

>>534386121
speaking of xyziggery, xyzs have the most turnskip monsters with this thing, pair-a-dice, VFD and kali yuga
fusions and synchros have what? cosmo neos and king calamity?

>>534386715
I agree in concept but the gimmick puppet girls specifically are grotesque.

>>534386715
you will never be a real woman.
>>534386761
I have topped SJC when decks actually took skill with an anti-meta little city deck. Cope harder.

>>534386773

>>534386773
don't forget hope zexal and that one 5-material warrior that i forgot the name of

>>534386859
still too dumb to pilot ryzeal

>>534386715
why did they make them so sex

>>534386957
oh yeah right, rhongo and utopic zexal
truly the niggest card type and a stain on our beautiful card game

I asked you first, you start. But that'd be besides the point (Which I will reiterate since you don't seem to get it.)

Waifu decks have become increasingly frequent and (you) pretend it isn't happening because you like it and feel it should overtake everything else.

why would i do that when you'd just claim anything i post a waifu deck

>>534387172
>>534386708

I forgot your (you) now I look like a schizo. Don't laugh at me, it's not funny.

>>534387020
Says the troon who thinks that cutting off their dick makes them a woman. Pic rel is you.

>>534386848
Instant ramen is unhealthy

>>534387253
My definition of waifu deck is very simple
Focused on pretty females = waifu deck
Has pretty females but not the focus = not waifu deck

Too bad it sets itself again at the end of your turn but it's funny when the opponent does foolishly activate something like S:P in response to another effect only to get a full nuke

why did they put kaijus in all three of the loaner decks for the synchro event? bad enough it's a dc reskin themed after the worst summoning type but now every other match is gonna have a giant turtle falling onto your board. is konami incapable of making good events?

>>534387564
Because it's not meant to be one of the fun events, it's meant to be a banlist scope-out event that conveniently excludes the deck they sold a bunch of cosmetics for (Maliss) so they don't have to ban any of their cards.

>>534387564
Because it's the only way to play against synchro negateslop.

>>534387476

>>534386859
Obviously I'll never be a woman, real or otherwise. What would make you think otherwise?

unban king calamity

>>534386889
winda is bad but it's not an outright "you can't activate cards for the rest of the turn" like the cards I listed

>>534387942
Waifu deck.
For full disclosure, anything under Sinful Spoils counts as a waifu deck because of the shared support and Diabell focus, even if Azamina specifically only has around 3 waifu cards.

>>534388263
fair enough

>>534388387
see?
you'll call anything i post a waifu deck
even tho the woman ain't even pretty

>literally every duel i've had against six sam since it's come out has been them turboing out naturia beast
oh my god i fucking love synchro slop

>>534388387
>snake-eyes is a waifu deck because it has diabell

>>534388520
First of all, Saint Azamina is extremely fuckable, don't get it twisted.
Secondly, I already spelled it out for you, if your deck revolves around a bunch of pretty ladies, it doesn't fucking matter if you end on azzathoth.

>>534388387
So you're saying Tearlaments isn't even a waifu deck because of Visas focus

>>534382963
Cringe.

>>534388671
Also a waifu deck because your main playmakers are the mermaids. This isn't some gotcha moment, I think it's fairly intuitive to understand that

>>534388708
That's from Arc-V

>>534384359
I love this dork.

>>534388775
>main playmakers
tear main playmakers are the ishizu cards

>>534388790
The best in the series? SIGN ME UP!

>>534389045
Do it without the mermaids then. We'll see how much of a tear deck it becomes.

>>534389092

>>534389156
but you said you ain't talking about waifu cards

>>534385865
Amazoness and Harpies were literally among the first archetypes designed, before full archetypes were even a thing, all the way back in 2003/2004. Back then too, D.D Warrior Lady, DMG, and Injection Fairy Lilly were everyone's waifu cards. The DMG tins sold like hotcakes BECAUSE it was DMG, even though she was unplayable. I would slot DMG into my Chaos deck purely because she was dark, and thus at least counted as removal and could be summoned through Dimension Fusion, and she won me the odd game here and there by tributing a Sangan to summon her and swing over my opponent. Was she good? No. But she was my waifu.

Teenagers are horny as fuck. There will always be cards to appeal to coomers because teenage boys have always been coomers and big tits get them to pay attention.

You're either gay, a tranny, or both. Either way, you have no idea what "this game was like back then" waifu cards have ALWAYS been a staple.

>>534389176
That's the greatest thing I've seen today.

>>534388263
Exterio and last warrior are pretty close but they are not easy to summon. Most fusion-based decks always have their own ways to annoy you beyond preventing you to play yugioh completely

>>534389156
Posting this, I can see where some of the confusion is coming from, so let me clarify some more.

When I say Waifu Deck that's a misnomer, it should have been Waifu Archetype when I said that.

>>534389242
Kashtira is not a waifu deck
Scareclaw is not a waifu deck
Manadome is not a waifu deck
Tearlaments is a waifu deck
Ishizu (pure) is not a waifu deck

Tearlaments + Ishizu Is a waifu deck, if you need further clarification please ask.

>>534389372
The frequency at which more archetypes are being made that are entirely waifus is the concern that is being raised, not their existence in general.

>>534389372
Honestly it wouldn't be too surprising if waifu cards were part of why archetypes became a thing since someone who wants to run a deck full of ugly monsters isn't going to mind running a random mismatch of creatures while someone who wants to play cute girl cards is going to care.

>>534389576
It's only a concern if you're a tranny who feels threatened by the existence of feminine beauty.

If it makes my dick hard, I literally do not give a shit. They should print more.

>>534389691
Archfiends were the first archetype. I very much do care when my ugly monsters are mismatched.

>>534389737
Based.

>>534389737
If you're looking for trannies, try /dng/.

>>534389971
I'm not looking for them. They're already here, and I wish they'd go away.

The anti-waifu poster is obviously a troon given how often he spergs out over waifu decks. Even if he changes his tone, you can still tell it's the same retard.

Watch, in a bit he's gonna pivot to calling Maliss and Labrynth "tranny decks" and then start spamming images of the pink-haired abomination pretending he's s different poster.

Only a tranny is this insecure about anime tits. Fact.

>>534390252
>One person is responsible for everything I don't like
You are schizophrenic.
You are the only one bringing up trannies.
I am bringing up the frequency that all female archetypes are being made.

>>534390389
>I am bringing up the frequency that all female archetypes are being made.
Yeah, because you feel threatened by feminine beauty. We've already established that.

Real men see tits and it gets their dick hard. Simple as. I don't see what's "concerning" about any of this you malding troon. Stop trying to police what I enjoy and find a different hobby to ruin.

>>534390621
Were you dropped on your head or did you develop this level of retardation naturally?

shit nobody cares about

>>534389576
last 12 month (5 waifu deck)
>ryzeal, synchron, sixsam
>white forest (waifu)
>ice barrier, rose dragon, speedroid
>tenpai
>insect
>tenyi, maliss (waifu), beetrooper
>d/d/d, arcana force, glad beast
>goblin
>branded
>voiceless
>sarc
>vaalmonica (waifu?)
>memento
>shark
>centurion (waifu?)
>snake-eyes
>horus
>eldlich, tistina
>illusion
>nemleria (waifu?)
>gold pride
>runick
>visas
>dragon synchro
12 month before that (6 waifu deck)
>kash
>vs
>nouvelle (waifu?)
>umi bs
>floo
>mankos (waifu)
>purely
>r-ace
>tear (waifu?)
>spright
>vernuslyph (waifu?)
>dinomorphia
>bystial
>vaylantz
>therion
>ra
>exosister (waifu)
>libromancer
>icejade (waifu?)
>despia
>beetrooper
>nobleknight
>visas
>adventure
we're actually getting less waifu deck

>>534390905
Allow me to do some editorializing
Centurion is half waifu half robot so it gets a pass from me.
Nemleria doesn't count as waifu since she's waifu (singular)
Nouville isn't waifu at all, not sure how you'd get that
Vernusylph is like a 5.5/10 on the waifu scale, me personally, I wouldn't call it waifu in the same way you wouldn't call a jew white

Next pack with Mitubishi?

Mental illness.

>>534390905
>>534390874

>>534391147
>Nouville isn't waifu at all, not sure how you'd get that

>>534391413
If you tattoo it on your forehead we might be able to prescribe your meds properly

>>534391467
>sexiest monster isn't even a girl
yeah it's not a waifu deck, dude.

>>534391467
No anon, two women (who aren't even monsters) appearing on card art does not make your deck a waifu deck. Come back when Nouvilles lore incorporates its yuri into the lore like Mayakashi (actually a waifu deck by technicality)

>>534391678

>Bro sees me discard Talents
>Sees me add it back
>Surrenders when I use it at the end of my turn
Lol

>>534391796
Ok, I'm retarded, you got me. (I only read the cards that were related to hungry burger)

>>534391678
their lore on top of summoning demon via cooking is that the two girls are battling it out

>go 2nd
>opp play pendulum shit
>concede
I ain't reading all that shit nigger.

if master duel uses eomm why do I lose every coinflip how is this supposed to keep me engaged exactly

>>534391982
The name is too french, I can't even parse the art.

>>534392029
me but against literally anything that isn't meta. i don't have the time to read your retarded mimighoul or whatever cards, kid. go away.

>>534392206
Beware my boss monster, nigga

>go first
>shit hand
>go to set scales and summon 1 monster in defense position
>opponent scoops out of pure fear fear before I can even summon
ohohoho

>>534391217
is eclipse twins good for exosisters too?

Lately I've noticed a lot of people don't seem to know what floo does anymore. You can activate jack in the hand and people won't take robina. People will hold their imperms for empen instead of the small birds. It makes me a little sad honestly. Like we've fallen so low only people who were around for our dynasty remember us. Konami should unlimit map and the pot cards, maybe people will respect floochads again.

>>534391982
This is more of a side story that one of the characters got in that's separate from the main part about the restaurant. Patissciel isn't even technically part of the archetype and existed before Nouvellez. Even if you count her as part of it, the majority of the characters are not female. I don't think any of the ritual monsters are. except Angry Burger

>>534392595
It looks like it'd be good for followup by recycling Magnific-
>Must be summoned with the above Xyz Materials
Nevermind.

>>534393268
>Mayakashi (actually a waifu deck by technicality)

>>534393537
That was (me) who said that and yes, Mayakashi is a waifu deck because all your main cards are female, your combos revolve around women (plural) and your lore is gay women gaying it up for everyone else.

>>534392680
Have you been playing the birbs in this ryzeal/maliss meta?

>>534393693
the majority of the characters are not female

>>534393864
So you just lose going second?

>>534393693
>your lore is gay women gaying it up for everyone else.

>>534389826
was it the first? I always thought Gravekeepers was the first 'real' archetype

Oh we can see the bookmark number now

>>534394580
Archfiends are the archetype mentioned to describe what archetypes are in the official rulebook from 2002 or whatever.

>>534394661
oh, fair enough, I actually didn't know that, that's neat

mayakashi is literally a story about lesbian child grooming. it's not only a waifu deck but it's about as tranny-core as decks go.

yup, this shit cup is just as insufferable as I thought it would be
just a bunch of wombo combo decks that take an hour to set up

>>534394775
no cap fr fr ong my nigger that deck is goofy ahh hell my slime

>>534394325
everyone does, retard.

>purelly faggot in fucking silver doing his floodgate niggerdom
alright I'm done fucking around in low ranks if this is what these fucking faggot niggers are going to do
I am going to run a bot that timer stalls literally everyone I encounter until I get banned, which I'll consider a blessing

>>534394626
I hate what they did with the sorting, it's all fucked up and not what I was used to.

>>534394870
noooo you don't get it synchro decks are actually so soulful and honest!!! 5D's! do you remember 5D's??!!

>>534394870
yup
feels good to be home doesn't it?

>>534393959
Yeah, but the main cards are female: Dakki, and all 4 versions of Yukki onna.

I'd be willing to give you the fact that since Yukki onna is technically 1 woman, she only counts as a single "waifu" for the conversation, but since the lore is about 3 waifus in a love triangle and all of this

>>534394530
happened way in the past and none of these guys seemingly currently exist

it's a waifu deck.

>>534394909
just scoop and move on, autist. you can't derank so who cares if fags do fag shit?

>>534395107
nouvelle guy chef is past chef and the current chef main lore is gaying it up with the oatissier

is it stupid to try and play blue eyes in this synchro shit?

>>534394870
Seems like the one event you want to run multiple Nibs or Sphere Mode

>>534297785 (OP)
what's the best anti tenpai deck for the synchro cup?

>>534393268
That is more of a side story that one of the characters got in that's separate from the main part about the mayakashi.

>>534395431
meant for >>534395107

>>534395196
The Hamburger Recipe chef and the current Nouvelles chef are different characters. we don't have this card in MD yet

Technically speaking, Shiranui Squire is of the Shiranui archetype, which if discounted would mean Mayakashi's "main females" are just Dakki and Yuki-Onna. Now if Shiranui Squire is not discounted then it needs to be taken into account that the majority of the Shiranui cards feature men and Spectralsword is more important to the lore broadly than the women.

>>534395668
hamburger chef is gen 1
that guy is gen 5
the girl is gen 6

>>534395431
I don't think there's a good comparison to be made between one of the chefs from the Nouvelles restaurants happening to get into a baking competition with a female character from outside the archetype to the story of Mayakashi shifting to focus on the relationship between two female characters and how that affects the Mayakashi+Shiranui war.

Shiranui has the benefit of having a focus on its non waifu card(singular), therefore making it not a waifu deck.

Mayakashi on the other hand, has nothing BUT waifu lore. Tell me what Gashadokuro does other than appear in Mayakashi Mayhem and I'll concede, but until then, it remains a waifu deck in my eyes

>>534395890
You're just making things up now.

a waifu deck is simply a deck trying too hard to have pretty girls in it

simple as

>>534396228
Real meat beaters know what a waifu deck looks like and are under no false pretense for what they like.

>>534396228
Which ones tried too hard and which ones didn't try enough

>>534396416
Dragon maid and Dragon tail
I won't say which is which, but if you know, you know.

Oh this is an awful fucking event where everyone is trying to cheese everything. Great.

Why are synchro events always so consistently bad?

Controversial opinion: I think that cute girls are cute and I like them.

>>534396658
That's perfectly fine and never let anyone who doesn't care for cute girl decks (me) discourage you from playing them.

ironically the waifu designs are the worst ones in mayakashi/shiranui. like i'm not gay but objectively speaking sunsaga is a more attractive person than squire. and it's weird that dakki is supposed to be this beautiful seductress but she's got a huge forehead and those ugly eyebrows.

Helmet deck. Bonus meme: me chain blocking the True Light in grave with Baldrake.

>>534397003
Lesbians just have different ideas on what women they find attractive

SEEEEEEX!!!

>>534397003
Ancient japan was a different time and place, anon.
I'm not gonna judge anyone else for what gives them boners, not when I'm in a glass house.

>>534397094
blue eyes usually summons sifr if their true light would be destroyed right?

>>534397624
He still had the free GY negate with Spirit. Also he summoned Ultimate for some reason.

>>534297785 (OP)
aaaaa fuckers fuckers fuckers let me have the fucking gems, this is why cups suck ass

Won the coin flip+first hand of the event. Atri topdecked Ghost Ogre on my turn then a Bystial on their turn(vs Blackwing) then Maxx C drew a Nib and another Bystial for good measure.
Yep, this is a good omen for the Centurionchads.

>>534397624
Spirit itself can negate true light nuke and sifr cannot be summoned without crimson dragon, that guy just threw his spirit and whatever else he's summoning with it away for nothing.

>>534397624
You can't summon Sifr, it says:
"Must be Synchro Summoned and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways.", Spirit Dragon special summons from the extra deck, you need to cheat it out with Crimson Dragon.

What you actually need to do is nothing at all, Spirit Dragon says
"Once per turn, during either player's turn, when an effect of a card in the Graveyard is activated: You can negate the activation."

So you can just negate the True Light nuking you field effect.

>>534397931
don't forget to shit on konami in the next survey and tell them to stop with these summon type exclusive events

I remember back when crystron's best play was activate ties of the bretheren then pass and hope your opponent didn't force trishula to miss timing, but you youngins wouldn't know anything about that.
All you know is search sulfador
Banish inclusion
make Eleskeletus and eat hot chip

>>534398235
Summon type exclusive events would be good if they had the balls to make them good

>Flip monsters vs Geminis
get on it, master devs.

One deck meta

>>534398457
>All those maliss icons
The themed bundles were a mistake. They should've been master packs, live twins were the game's downfall.

>>534396353
this

>>534396416
not him but blue eyes doesn’t try enough desu
Diabellstar insists upon itself
Maliss insists upon itself

sup my bois what is the best loaner for the trash event?

yeah i played two games of the event and i'm done. sickening game design. sometimes i just want to go out and beat whoever works on this game half to death.

>>534398701
Blue eyes isn't a waifu deck unless your name is Seto Kaiba.

>>534398753
Build Nemleria and play it, trust me.

What the fuck I was watching a replay and this dude used Ryzeal Plasma Hole to summon Zeus using Detonator, blow up the field and attack for game, I didn't even know they could do that.

>>534398874
tried burn and it went horribly wrong lmao, turns out synchros are by far the guiltiest when it comes shitting out negates

>>534398574
The only icons/borders/deck boxes/card backs/fields I have are from bundles, and I bet there's a lot of people who are the same
fuck buying any of that individually, that's a waste of gems

>>534398753
Crystron.

>>534399209
don't lie to me, that deck is trash without cydra and their non synchro stuff

>>534399126
synchro bros… are we cancer?

>>534399180
>he doesn't exclusively use accessories obtained through events
cringe

>>534399305
>She doesn't know
Alright, go play speedroids then. See how it goes.

>>534398924
oh it's playable? i do happen to have a gordian slicer...

Look let's just be frank. Everyone knows fusion is the only honest summoning type. and it's been that way for a long time. We don't have to pretend to be shocked every time another type gets an event and it's pure cancer.

>>534399606
>it's playable?
It's Nemleria, let's not get ahead of ourselves.

>>534399657
of course. i meant it wasn't banned

but then i remembered i have to synchro 50 times for the missions and i thought better of it

>>534399509
playing events any more than getting the free gems is a waste of life, definitely cringe

>>534399745
buddy i already wasted 28 years of my life it doesn't really matter at this point

>>534399628
Fusion's honesty went out the window the second fuse from deck became an option. You're just as bad as the Synchro suckers with the only benefit being that on average, your turns take slightly less time.

>>534399821
only 28?

>>534399628
>t. albaz and friends enjoyer

>>534399628
I hope my fusion boy will be more usable soon

Links are unironically the most honest summoning type in the game just because there's almost zero cheating them out. Big part of what irritates me about shit like that maliss trap that summons one straight from the ED. We're gonna reach a point soon where not a single ED monster is summoned properly.

>>534400072
genuinely what is the point of this card when zombies have a link that does the exact same thing but lets you use the monster's effects?

>>534400321
Cards come out at different times and powercreep happens. Eldlitch came first, then Vampire Fascinator.
Also, Fusion eldlitch was probably made only to be a counter to eldlitch by allowing you to side super polymerization against it

Mating Pressing Purrely...

Purrely coitus memory

>>534396145
thats literally the lore

>>534400072
this thing really should have been a quick effect

Purrely Sexually Explicit Memory

fuck purrely

>>534400950
nuh uh

what's the most schizo deck in the game? not lore-wise, gameplay-wise. i want something that makes my opponents wonder if there's actually something wrong with me. 60 card multi-engine slop probably?

>>534401165
>fuck purrely
that's the idea!

>>534401425
Flower Cardian.

>>534400072
He becomes more usable soon assuming you're willing to play the deck. which actually is not completely terrible as long as you aren't using it as an engine in Stun The new fusion lets you poop him out of the extra deck in exchange for essentially just linking off a light zombie.

>>534400191
>Trap the summons the link
>But only if your opponent controls THREE monsters
>Also, it has no effects and can't attack
>Also, it can't resummon itself from banish as it was never properly summoned
>It basically does nothing
Somehow this card is broken according to you.
TB-11 is just an extender to summon stuff from the main deck and dodge imperm/veiler. Cheating out Links is extremely niche, and often not worth it.

>>534399112
Wait, so they can summon any Xyz they want?

>>534401827
If you don't lock yourself then you won't be locked.

>>534401732
I didn't say it was broken, just that it cheats out a link. I'd prefer not having "summon a link monster without the proper materials" cards be printed at all because even if they're not good now it's just a slippery slope that eventually leads to where fusion and xyz are at where every other card can be cheated out.

STOP. IMPERMING. MY. HAJUN
I just want to do the synchro summon mission man...

>synchro 50 times
>my deck doesn't synchro
oh fuck you
worst summoning mechanic introduced in the game

>>534394906
THIS NIGGER LOSES GOING SECOND EVERYONE! POINT AT HIM AND LAUGH!

>>534402241
use a loaner

Play her deck!

>>534402173
your crossout designator, sis?

Holy shit, finally. The flip monster archetype that has flip-like effects that you can actually use without jumping through a hoop first.

>>534402568
>negate and flip all monsters face down
why is konami incapable of making new decks that aren't cancerous?

>>534402568
How does that even work? Aren't facedowns "blank" or whatever?

>>534402748
If a card says you can do something you normally can't then you can do it. Like this 24 year old card. Or like Serpentine Princess. Or Gizmek Naganaki.

>>534402990
I don't remember him having that effect, but fair enough.

>>534402990
It is ALWAYS hilarious when it goes off in my warrior toolbox goat deck.
Get neg 1'd idiot.

>>534402721
the negate is only on your turn though, and tistina already does the daruma cannon gimmick and nobody plays it

>>534403387
I just wanted to show you my deck bro...

Speaking of flips, you should play THEIR deck this event.

>>534403534
The amount of times I drew my 1-of Penguin Soldier trying to make this piece of shit work was insane.

>>534403534
look when I get a copy or 2 of Brave from the Legacy Pack I'll play it, I'd prefer to not craft them just for the deck but I will when I finally get them

literally impossible to complete the synchro mission everyone just scoops right away when they go second without maxx c.

I don't allow my opponent to complete missions if they have a maliss icon.

>>534405712
what if I use a Maliss frame but Zero King Rage as the icon

Synchro fest kinda sucks

Play. Centurion.

>>534406215
Don't. I just JURRAC'D off right onto one I the event.